Berlin

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1303146]Thanks Bobo, really appreciate your info.

I said money is no issue, but I do'nt think I'm ready to pay their traveling costs at this moment, when not having met the girl before.

Will try to find a Berlin based escort but have'nt found it yet.

At Kamilla Dee there is one girl that looks OK, Clarissa, anybody who have been with her and able to comment?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Yes, I've been with Clarissa.

Hot body, good performer, nice girl. BBBJ for me without questions asked (I speak German and I think this helps) , but house policy is for covered BJ so beware.

I did a report on her here in 2011. Search for more info if you want.

Best.

C

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1304594]Briefly. I was underwhelmed by the website photos at Golden Time Wien (a taste thing to be sure) , Babylon absurdly expensive. And I have normally really good things to say about Austrian women. Prague. Sure but it will require a fair bit of running around, and it will be jammed with tourists. Frankfurt-it will be hit and miss and Oase without great weather a different deal, and a relative a hassle to reach (easily an hour each way if you stay in Frankfurt) , and come and go. It tends to E European thin waify types-again a taste thing, and not mine. .[/QUOTE]Thanks a ton Rocketboy and LJ for those detailed insight. As always, experts tend to have different opinions on a given topic and its is ultimately left to the reader to analyze those opinions and make an informed decision. I guess I`ll just wait for LJ to report on his experience in Zurich and Berlin after that if I am still in a dilemma over which city to monger along with Berlin, I guess I`ll toss a coin to decide. BTW, you guys mention some girls will be away for summer vacation and that might put a drain on the talent available anywhere in Europe, so I was wondering when dose this summer vacation end. Reason I ask this is because I am to an extend flexible with my flight schedule and maybe I can decide when I want to visit EU. Well given this will be my 1st Mongering trip, I do not mind splurging for GFE with some fine hotties.

Alex

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1304594]Briefly. I was underwhelmed by the website photos at Golden Time Wien (a taste thing to be sure) , Babylon absurdly expensive. And I have normally really good things to say about Austrian women. Prague. Sure but it will require a fair bit of running around, and it will be jammed with tourists. Frankfurt-it will be hit and miss and Oase without great weather a different deal, and a relative a hassle to reach (easily an hour each way if you stay in Frankfurt) , and come and go. It tends to E European thin waify types-again a taste thing, and not mine. World-some like, but I find it creepy too E European, it is a hike without a car, and owned by German motorcycle gang. Palace in summer will be hit and miss, and in any case, while Frankfurt has spent a lot on museums and river front development etc. It is still Frankfurt. Frankfurt to me often feels claustrophobic, not helped by a relative absence of cheap flights to EU destinations unlike other German cities, and trains can also be expensive on short notice. For me, after Berlin, another "landlocked" big city experience (also applies to Prague, and Vienna despite their being near rivers) for several days in summer not attractive. And Brussels. Not worth it IMHO, in your situation.

Whereas. Look at the club-globe. Ch website and see Mohab`s recent description; it just seems the odds significantly better there, all things considered. Disagree with LJ that quality the same elsewhere for less cost but at least Berlin will help you establish a baseline. I do think the Globe quality has the potential (note that word) to be much better. YMMV and of course it will depend upon the day and your tastes. All things being equal WED-SAT best days (and better so late afternoons / evenings) everywhere. Yes more expensive but likely only for a day, with a few sessions, net net 400 ish more. But Zurich a surprisingly edgy city, good arts and music scene, the region extremely beautiful with its large swimmable lake, and Luzern nearby even more so. The lake boat trips, or just hiring a bicycle, with towering mountains nearby pretty unbeatable. With the Globe, you have a fairly large one stop shop, very good transit system, vs needing to go poon safaris all over unfamiliar cities or their countrysides. There are some useful rail passes you should buy in advance and some hotel planning on-line helpful, check Time-Out and Lonely Planet tips. It really depends on logistics, time and flight schedules, and budget and how likely you are to pass through Europe again, but balancing a lot of factors, if it were me-I'the be off to Zurich / Globe.

You can wait til we hear LJs report from the Globe. And again doing Berlin both Artemis and some of the better bordellos first and seeing how you feel about the whole scene first makes most sense IMHO.[/QUOTE]Just for the sake of accuracy, one can go on the website [url]www.bahn.de[/url] And plug into the journey planner the trip from Frankfurt Hbf to Bad Homburg, and one will see that traveling from Frankfurt Hbf to FKK Oase involves a 21 minute ride on the S-Bahn (S5). The taxi ride from Bad Homburg station to FKK Oase is not more than 10 minutes. I usually stay at one of the hotels adjacent to the Frankfurt Hbf to make my transfers to / from the airport easier. So I can't see where there is more than a half hour of travel time from Frankfurt Hbf to FKK Oase. Rocketboy0 must be including a scenic tour of downtown Frankfurt in his estimate of an hour travel time. The twenty minute ride on the large comfortable cars of the flawlessly functioning S-Bahn, I wouldn't regard as a "hassle".

Also, you can't go by the FKK website photos. There isn't any serious doubt that the line up usually Present at FKK Oase shreds the offerings at FKK Artemis that I saw on my visit to Artemis the night of April 18. But I've only been to Artemis once. Likewise, although Goldentime Vienna is a smaller club than Artemis, the line up at Goldentime was consistently far better than what I saw at Artemis that April 18 visit, and I am speaking of personal observation made from many visits to both FKK Oase near Frankfurt and FKK Goldentime in Vienna. They are consistently good in their line up. My ATF is Joanna (Romanian) at Goldentime Vienna, a dark haired flawless body beauty, but there are also many blondes from Hungary or Slovak Republic at Goldentime due to the club's proximity to those countries. I do agree that when the weather outside is nice, which allows one to enjoy the outdoors area and swimming pool at Oase (see the website for YouTube video to get a good idea) , that the experience at Oase is a much better experience, because Oase does suffer from having a less opulent and comfortable premises than clubs like Palace or Artemis, which is bearable for most guys since Oase has the better line up with better service (I. E. Less complaints of sharky behavior at Oase as compared to Palace).

The foregoing having been said, I am going to Artemis again to give it a second chance and hope I will have fun there.

I also do agree that Zurich's Globe sounds like a really good environment with really hot girls, but at double the price. The price tags on Beautiful escorts in Zurich of $300 / hour at Globe and $400 / hr or $500 / hr at other Swiss venues or escort services, are already like the prices back home in places like New York, a high priced mongering location. See for example [url]www.eros--ny.com[/url] And plug into the search box "400" which will pull up all those escort ads asking $400 / hr and you will see that for that price some very beautiful Russian type girls are available as GFE (searches for prices lower than $400 will bring up mostly TS escorts on the Eros website) , so $400 is now a baseline on that website in NY. Lower cost escorts can be found on backpage. Com). So if I can pay $400 for a beauty in NY, why should I go to Zurich for escorts charging the same? The lower costs at the German FKK's are part of their appeal.

And lastly, in listing cities you might want to monger in for a one or two night stopover, having just read Charlie123's note to Norjan, I am reminded that I quite agree about London. I have stopped over in London many times and the escort scene there is awesome. Just take a look at [url]www.londonescortguide.com[/url], for example, and see what kind of beauties are available for 150 GBP (230 CHF) or 180 GBP (275 CHF) or even 200 GBP (306 CHF) (higher than that is already getting ridiculous) and your eyes will likely pop out! And London is a great tourist city as well.

I will be in Zurich this Friday and report about what I see there.

LJ

[QUOTE=LilJoey;1304696]Just for the sake of accuracy, LJ[/QUOTE]Well, you gots your reality; I gots mine. Apologies to all as this really belongs in the Lounge, but as we're stuck here, my last entry on this.

LJ-your Frankfurt-Oase travel time estimates assume absolute best-case timing and taxi connections, and some hotel proximity that may or not apply to our intrepid traveler, on the particular day. My guess allows for the usual imperfections and slacking. I think, point to point, Hotel door to Oase reception. 1 hr is much more realistic. Having lived in Frankfurt for over a year, and Berlin for 5, flawless and S-Bahn are not words I would use in the same sentence. Scheisse happens.

I thought all the new construction at Oase was far from complete as of this moment; that while operations are continuing, the work is no where near finished. I have no idea really but their video is a computer generated thing vs what is really on there now. I really don`t know but again. For me, IMHO, just not worth it, on balance. Been there 4-5 times, left without doing anything I think 3. Whereas, I have always had a great time at the horrible, evil Palace. Kimino my man of wings and I commented on all this on the Palace thread recently. It just goes to show how subjective it all is, and how each of us must find our way.

London will be very costly on all levels, esp now with high tourist season and pre-Olympics stresses. There have been well-reported horrific delays at airport immigration, and even conservative Financial Times columnists have been moaning what a hassle it will all be quite soon. Well be worth an off-season visit in Sept when the systems are back to normal, but right now, I doubt it. As Charlie123 can fully attest, I have been telling him for years that cost aside, the choices there are something, and I am an Anglophile by nature.

As for all the rest on the girly front in various places- as I said repeatedly, all individual taste things both in terms of beauty, and if it is "worth" it.

So as you say, for the sake of accuracy (and just fucking peace) , l now surrender completely. I concede fully you are a world-class mongering and business and logistics genius (with as you reminded us, a highly developed tongue to boot) , and look forward to your in depth thrashing of Artemis, a minute cost breakdown, and the Globe report of Truth. Finito. RB over and out.

So finally I've experienced the services in German Bordello, I'm quite satisfied and thanks to Angus magee.)

As I'm student I wrote him that I'm looking for something cheaper he suggested me 1) [url]http://www.starlight-modelle.de/index.php[/url]

And 2) [url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/modelle.html[/url] Where I saw the website and for me Freudenhaus-hase. De looks has more girls and was interesting for me.

It was Monday afternoon when I went there, the right side was closed and usually it opens after 4. I was new so didn't know about how things work so I entered and the main Lady explained to me how it works, so I was walking and looking at girls, as it was afternoon it was not busy, girls were waiting so I had chance to see the girl, on the top floor I ended up with Nicole, short Polish girl with no English and I'm new so I don't speak German, but still I decided to go with her, body was average nice tits, No kissing which I really want but really nice BJ she was relaxed and not in hurry, did different positions and I ended up.

I've been to cheap places in London's Soho where I can say, service in this place was far better than one in London, in soho they give BJ for a half or a minute to say you got BJ, and

The girls are always in hurry to get next customer.

Over all I liked this place as I'm new and for the price I think it was good place.

Thank you once again Angus, Let me know if there are any suggestions to find another Budget place for students like me.

Also I've found few contacts online, any suggestion?

[url]http://www.jaasmin.de/[/url]

[url]http://mabelle.rotlichtmodelle.de/home.html[/url]

[url]http://www.iris-massagen.com/de/index.php?do=cat&category=masseurin[/url]

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1304815]Well, you gots your reality; I gots mine. Apologies to all as this really belongs in the Lounge, but as we're stuck here, my last entry on this.

LJ-your Frankfurt-Oase travel time estimates assume absolute best-case timing and taxi connections, and some hotel proximity that may or not apply to our intrepid traveler, on the particular day. My guess allows for the usual imperfections and slacking. I think, point to point, Hotel door to Oase reception. 1 hr is much more realistic. Having lived in Frankfurt for over a year, and Berlin for 5, flawless and S-Bahn are not words I would use in the same sentence. Scheisse happens.

I thought all the new construction at Oase was far from complete as of this moment; that while operations are continuing, the work is no where near finished. I have no idea really but their video is a computer generated thing vs what is really on there now. I really don`t know but again. For me, IMHO, just not worth it, on balance. Been there 4-5 times, left without doing anything I think 3. Whereas, I have always had a great time at the horrible, evil Palace. Kimino my man of wings and I commented on all this on the Palace thread recently. It just goes to show how subjective it all is, and how each of us must find our way.

London will be very costly on all levels, esp now with high tourist season and pre-Olympics stresses. There have been well-reported horrific delays at airport immigration, and even conservative Financial Times columnists have been moaning what a hassle it will all be quite soon. Well be worth an off-season visit in Sept when the systems are back to normal, but right now, I doubt it. As Charlie123 can fully attest, I have been telling him for years that cost aside, the choices there are something, and I am an Anglophile by nature.

As for all the rest on the girly front in various places- as I said repeatedly, all individual taste things both in terms of beauty, and if it is "worth" it.

So as you say, for the sake of accuracy (and just fucking peace) , l now surrender completely. I concede fully you are a world-class mongering and business and logistics genius (with as you reminded us, a highly developed tongue to boot) , and look forward to your in depth thrashing of Artemis, a minute cost breakdown, and the Globe report of Truth. Finito. RB over and out.[/QUOTE]RB, why the sarcasm? Doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore? Or enjoy a discussion of various opinions on a topic of mutual interest? I do not intend to give Artemis a thrashing, since I approach my time there with a completely open and hopeful mind, wanting to have as much fun there as possible. And no need to concede I'm a genius, since that never was placed in issue. I'm not a genius at anything, just an intelligent guy, like you, who loves pussy, and has been chasing it around for a few years now in different locales.

Although after exchanging some thoughts with you, I think we may Truly have different tastes in beauty, because I find it hard to understand how you could not find anything to your liking at FKK Oase so as to leave it without doing anything on 3 occasions out of 4 or 5 times you visited that club. I always saw what I thought was a fairly good line up at Oase, as well as at Palace. I like both places very much and always found very pretty girls to session with at both clubs. But I do like the thin, slim hot bodies of the Romanian and Bulgarian girls, and I remember something you wrote about not liking a "waify" look. So maybe what I consider a hot bikini model, doesn't appeal to you, and you like a different type of girl, and as you say this is a matter of individual taste.

[QUOTE=UmichaLex;1304621]Thanks a ton Rocketboy and LJ for those detailed insight. BTW, you guys mention some girls will be away for summer vacation and that might put a drain on the talent available anywhere in Europe, so I was wondering when dose this summer vacation end. Reason I ask this is because I am to an extend flexible with my flight schedule and maybe I can decide when I want to visit EU. Alex[/QUOTE]Hi Alex- this varies by country, and in the larger countries from region to region / Land / canton / province/city sometimes.

Everything you would ever want to know (and a lot you wouldn't) can be found here, use the school holidays tab per country (and sometimes you have to drill down to the City level):

[url]http://www.feiertagskalender.ch/index.php?geo=0&hl=en[/url]

Examples. Berlin schools start again 3 Aug this year. Zurich, around 20 Aug. On a practical level this means most people back a few days before this to get ready. You can argue that men folk, having been stuck with their families for weeks, are raring to rutt again and so the local markets respond by increasing supply. Of course, you can also argue we are all decendants of aliens.

Summer months linger as in most of of the Northern Hemisphere til end Aug, so girls may just decide to stay away and bake it before they shake it. FKK Oase, north of Frankfurt is a kind of exception to all this, as it really is a summer place. Of course everywhere, some girls will work through summer and go off-season. And there are local anomolies-Berlin has a huge international trade fair in early Sept called the IFA. It is fairly gruelling albeit lucrative for the girls and some stay away til just before to keep their batteries charged.

But roughly, by mid-Aug schools have started in most places, and back to fuller strength.

Is it correct that royal is located at floor 2 and 4?

If so, which floor should one enter when arriving?

Will there be different girls available depending on which floor you enter?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1305031]Is it correct that royal is located at floor 2 and 4?

If so, which floor should one enter when arriving?

Will there be different girls available depending on which floor you enter?

Norjan[/QUOTE]You are always received on the second floor, shown which ever girls are there, make your choice and then go to the room you will use where ever that may be. I am not sure but generally shorter sessions are done in the apartment that you see the girls in. Loneger sessions and nicer rooms are in the other apartments. I have never been to the forth floor (and indeed did not know it existed) but have been taken to another flat on the same floor. The rooms in the first flat are quite alright but there are a few smaller rooms used for shorter sessions.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1305036]You are always received on the second floor, shown which ever girls are there, make your choice and then go to the room you will use where ever that may be. I am not sure but generally shorter sessions are done in the apartment that you see the girls in. Loneger sessions and nicer rooms are in the other apartments. I have never been to the forth floor (and indeed did not know it existed) but have been taken to another flat on the same floor. The rooms in the first flat are quite alright but there are a few smaller rooms used for shorter sessions.AM[/QUOTE]Angus-you know that 4th floor is highly confidential. Now you must----well you know, make the usual disposal arrangements.

So, after my aching nuts stopped hurting (I did basically 5 days straight of sucking and fucking up to 5 women a day in Oase, World, Artemis and then an escort or 3, as well as driving nigh on 1000 miles) , BUT, I decided to honour the exceptional TOFTM work of Wanking to save me from "wanking". I am in the Adina Apts some miles from Kurfurstenstrasse. But I decided to take a long cool walk in the mild rain and wind.

I walked out of my hotel in the late morning and headed down Invalidenstraße towards the parks area. Turned down Friedrich-List-Ufer and then followed my google map thru the nice rainy park areas for a few clicks until I hit Tiergertenstrasse (spelling?). After a good 40 minutes walk and 4 or 5 kms I hit the RLD for SWs. The aforementioned Kurfurstenstrasse. And headed straight past Einsteins to the South east, so as to make sure I walk along the whole length of the SW parade. I end up near Caracas bar. I cross the road and start the exciting journey to the other end.

I reach Gentheiner strasse where the car park and Wanking's mentioned wasteland is. Boom. There are quite a few SW already out at 11. 50am. I cross the road and ask one of the nicer looking SW for the previously mentioned Alisha (blonde in the pics). The * tells me to eff off. She points to a guy on the other side. Her pimp? I ingore the advice and walk on. I come across a very attractive YOUNG (18 to 20 ish) Bulgarian lady. Black hair, fake green contacts and a slim, spinner type body. She is quite hot and I am quite horny. She knows close to zero English.

ME = "Wie viel füare die orale, ohne, Sperma in den Mund, dann werde ich dich ficken" she gives me a blank look. Oh fuck maybe my phone google translate is bad or something but I sprechen a little Deutsche. Oh oh. I have shown her my nice new Samsung phone and I am stupidly wearing a nice watch. Also visible. Eventually she says "fünfzig" I show her 40 is the only loot in my "fake wallet" and she accepts. She drags me (literally) across the road as it is a bit wet and INTO the church. Fuck me she knows a hiding spot here in the church. Nope straight into the loo (ladies) where she jams the door locked somehow. Rips out of cock and gives me the tastiest, wettest OWO ever. I CUM all over her mouth and face and some drips onto her tiny boobs which are now exposed under her flimsy blouse. I oblige by sucking off my own cum and we do a joint toast and swallow. God my spunk is very acidic or something nowadays. She doesn't have any gummie bears and I really do not want to go AO but she smells okay so I oblige with a little DATY. Then I finger fuck her puss and ass as she pushes back off a sink area with her ass, this goes on for a good 6 minutes or so and I think the little tart wants to orgasm. Nope. This is when HER PHONE rings. She grabs my loot and has her ass and body dressed quicker then you can say "mach schnell". And she is out the door. I am alone. I pull up my half mast strides and.

I leave the bathroom and see two church workers looking at me less then amused. But I am happy as I had a really great O and the little lassie was very attractive and sofffor me it WAS fun. I leave the church and herein lies my stupidity.

A bloke. Big guy. I am 6' 2" and he is me plus a few pounds is heading straight towards me. I slip back into the church. Go into a men's room and put my watch and phone in my "sown in" compartment under my balls in my cotton dacks. I leave the church and bull nose (as he looks) starts jabbering at me in Deutsche. I ignore him. He gets closer so I figure I am either going to be in a brawl which will be bad for him. Or if he has a weapon, bad for both of us. He wants money "du schuldest mir 50 €". I laugh and take off running across the busy road to a baby store. He just wanders around outside and down the side street to where I noticed a few other guys and SW hanging.

He is across the road a good 50 yards away. So I leave the baby store and sprint up Kurfürstenstraß, past the area where the pics Wanking took were from. I see a few of the girls from the pics. A chubby blonde and a nice-ish looking brunette in the red shorts (is it the one from the pics). But no ALisha and I am too hurried to worry. I jump into a cab and am off. So stupid bringing a nice watch into that situation.

Had my rental car for a few extra days til why'day so we decided to try out the brothels near tegel. Headed to Klix which I think Rocketboy has mentioned here before.

I rang beforehand to ask about a DD hottie, Tanya. JA JA she will be there. Blah blah she wasnt. So I ended up doing the works with a tight YOUNG I am guessing Ro or Bu girl. All of 18 years of age. LISA. She is on their website. (she could also be German.)

[url]http://www.klix37.de/[/url]

The rooms look like something from my granny's house circa 1973. Pink and purple. Yuk. Just really old fashioned in a BAD WAY.

Anyway. I spent over 100 minutes with young Lisa and paid for OWO, COB, DATY. I was only interested for only a 1 hour session and it worked out to be quite expensive (for ONLY one hour) at 220 Euros but I guess for the fact we went way over time and ended up having a joyous ride including some things she says she doesn't do it was a good time "pour mois". I suspect she would do anal. But I did not as.

Looks THIN BODY = 82/100 Face = 80/100 Performace (Oral = 65/100) but sex in multiple positions, showers, DATY and her having multi O's = 95/100.

For a youngun. This one loves to be fucked in all ways. Overall I did not like the bordello as they lied on the dogger to me but Miss Lisa is worth a ride (YMMV). I would repeat with her if I could get her for an overnight on my turf only.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1305031]Is it correct that royal is located at floor 2 and 4?

If so, which floor should one enter when arriving?

Will there be different girls available depending on which floor you enter?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Yes. The first time I visited Royal, with Charlie123, we went at the 4th floor and where "welcomed" by a quite severe hausmut.

The next time, I went at floor 2, with a different and much more gentle hausmut. To the point where we were asking ourselves if it was the same place.

All other times, I always went to 2nd floor.

Sometimes in big rooms, other times in smaller ones.

Didn't understand the logic of this, but maybe there isn't one.

Hope I'm not mixing up things.

Anyways, Royal is probably my favorite place of that kind, only once I left because I didn't find the right girl. And I usually visit at stupid hours of the day.

In all other places I left more than once because the lineup was particularly weak. I was particularly unlucky at Tiffany, which I removed from my list, also because of a particularly rude hausmut.

Guess I should add, YMMV.

Kimino

Went to this place called King George, about 50 Meters away from Eisenacher U bahn station, the entrance fee is 99 Euros where you can stay all you want, drink all you want, and of course have all the gurls you want, I like the idea, pretty cool, the girl in the reception was cool, she is Dominicana, once inside, the place is nice, a bit small, but ok, they play ok Music, I went for a few drinks, and then had this gurl from Moldova who was really friendly, and can speak English, so round one with this gurl was great, BBBJ, sex in all positions and the gurl was into it, great GFE experience, they try to let you buy drinks for the gurls which I did to that gurl as sort of tips, after that by a while and after few drinks, I went with this Russian gurl inside, the worst one ever, she got attitude, and she cannot speak English, and not into it, total disaster, I was thinking to just leave back to the bar and stop it, but I still did here till I came 30 minutes later, not a great experience, other than this girl, the place is nice, the rate is great for all the sex and drinks, they might ask you to buy a drink for a gurl, they are not pushy though, all in all great place

[QUOTE=Belvaros; 1305148]I leave the bathroom and see two church workers looking at me less then amused. But I am happy as I had a really great O and the little lassie was very attractive and sofffor me it WAS fun. I leave the church and herein lies my stupidity.

A bloke. Big guy. I am 6' 2" and he is me plus a few pounds is heading straight towards me. I slip back into the church. Go into a men's room and put my watch and phone in my "sown in" compartment under my balls in my cotton dacks. I leave the church and bull nose (as he looks) starts jabbering at me in Deutsche. I ignore him. He gets closer so I figure I am either going to be in a brawl which will be bad for him. Or if he has a weapon, bad for both of us. He wants money "du schuldest mir 50 €". I laugh and take off running across the busy road to a baby store. He just wanders around outside and down the side street to where I noticed a few other guys and SW hanging.

He is across the road a good 50 yards away. So I leave the baby store and sprint up Kurfürstenstraß, past the area where the pics Wanking took were from. I see a few of the girls from the pics. A chubby blonde and a nice-ish looking brunette in the red shorts (is it the one from the pics). But no ALisha and I am too hurried to worry. I jump into a cab and am off. So stupid bringing a nice watch into that situation.[/QUOTE]RofD worthy that's for sure. I did not quite get why the big guy was after you? Did he think you short changed "his" girls?

In any case this sounds like as good a reason as any to head back to Artemis and regroup.

;)

AM