Lisbon

I inquire from my foreign phone all the time, but I always ask if they speak English first. I speak some Portuguese, but don't pretend fluency. Maybe that is it -- it seems more polite.

Try starting with "Ola XXX, fala Ingles?

And sometimes they never respond. Maybe the lady was busy or not working or had a full schedule already that day, and figured there was no point in following up? It's considered bad manners by some to text back hours or days later, because it is indiscrete. Your wife might be right there.

[QUOTE=CasualHobbyist;2700904]You're right, I was using nationality = Portuguese as a filter, that narrows down the search quite a bit.

Thanks for the recommendations. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I tried texting a bunch of girls yesterday via WhatsApp, and only one replied so far. First I used Google Translate to get an introductory message in Portuguese and inquire about availability. Then, since some ladies mention they speak English, I tried sending messages in English as well. Again, no response. Maybe they get spooked by the fact that my phone number isn't local (starts with +1 country code)? One even seemed to have blocked me without replying, and I wasn't creepy at all, LOL. Just a polite greeting, and inquiry about availability.[/QUOTE]

Sugar baby ROTF

[QUOTE=CBuilder;2700887]Saw a 40's balding white guy with a 20's thin, pretty Portuguese girl at breakfast at my hotel. Thought pretty strong move bringing her to breakfast. Then I noticed they didn't talk once and he looked at his phone the whole time and realized they probably are a couple.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2614202]Joana (ex-Joana de S), the amazing Portuguese multi-orgasmic, squirting, BBBJ queen of the galaxy is back. [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/joana-3/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88.

I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.

Do you know if Joana is back again?

And my other favorite Miss Margarida?

If not, can you recommend someone comparable?

Muito obrigado.

Marco Capa,

The trail for those two goes cold on the local board. Hopefully Kama can find them for you. I did the post below with links to many independents with great reviews. Most are in their 30's and experienced, so it isn't that difficult to find a similar replacement, perhaps even an upgrade, for past loves.

You might pay particular attention to Ines and her many good reviews.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

While the post below has the most reviewed ladies, I should have included Tati Bernardi, who got an excellent review here on ISG and has mostly great reviews on the local board.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753.html[/URL]

And after I did that post, Clara Senna got a very good review here on ISG to go with her very good reviews on the local board.

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1237[/URL]

As you know, I mostly track the Escort Privada ladies, which may not interest you, but they have several experienced ladies with great reviews. The ones listed below are all older than their listed ages.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/carlota-dalmeida/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/diana-real/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/julia-nobrega/[/URL]

So if you review the post below that I bumped, and the links above, you will find plenty to choose from. In the post below, note that Carolina Belmont receives a lot of favorable mentions for extended dinner dates for English speakers, although extended dates with her are not inexpensive.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2697369]Here are the BBBJ independents with great reviews that are mentioned in the last 10 pages, or who I remember from past posts, in case any are of interest. I know I am not mentioning them all. The first one, Ines, is mentioned favorably now on all three big review boards. And Carolina Belmont is becoming something of a legend. Carolina, Rita and Adriana are all former EP ladies, so they know the outcall procedure.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rita-Gomes--5628.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Adriana-Rossi-6565.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Patricia-Navarro-3827.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]

If Margarida is who I am thinking of, there hasn't been a peep from or about her in at least 4 years. Maybe 5. Never met the lady. I only remember her reputation.

Joana de Sa has been known to stop advertising, but continue working and only see established clients. For a couple of years, in fact, she only advertised when her regulars weren't keeping her busy enough -- the she would "open the books." When she came back after the pandemic, she explicitly said she was only working part-time. She was already looking to transition out of escorting in 2019. So, she may be seeing only favored clients; she may be taking a break for whatever reason; or she may be retired.

[QUOTE=MarcoCapa;2702391]Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88.

I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.

Do you know if Joana is back again?

And my other favorite Miss Margarida?

If not, can you recommend someone comparable?

Muito obrigado.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarcoCapa;2702391]Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88,

I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.

Do you know if Joana is back again?

And my other favorite Miss Margarida?

If not, can you recommend someone comparable?

Muito obrigado.[/QUOTE]Not sure if anal and CIM were reasons you liked these two, but here is another independent who is getting excellent reviews on the local board, appears to always be up for anal and CIM, and is not as expensive as many others, including the EP ladies who are charging a supplement for anal. The reviews say she has a little bit of a belly, but it is not described as being a major detriment. She goes by the names Bruna Monteiro and Maya. Her ads say she speaks English, but that has not been confirmed, and one of her ads says she accepts WhatsApp.

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1196[/URL]

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/340028-ninfeta-apertadinha-adora-anal[/URL]#group=galeria_340028&photo=340028.

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/maya[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarcoCapa;2702391]Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88.

I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.

Do you know if Joana is back again?

And my other favorite Miss Margarida?

If not, can you recommend someone comparable?

Muito obrigado.[/QUOTE]As ExExpatriate and Mongerer have said, both Joana and Miss Margarida have, for quite some time, apparently given up / suspended their activity.

There's no one now remotely comparable to them. But you might try Bia / Ana Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL], [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-santos/[/URL] or Inês [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL].

Dear Kama LEão, Mongerer and ExExpatriate.

Wow! Many thanks for such extensive and detailed recommendations! I will make sure to meet at least a couple of these girls when I come to Lisbon in a month.

Really appreciate it.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2702710]As ExExpatriate and Mongerer have said, both Joana and Miss Margarida have, for quite some time, apparently given up / suspended their activity.

There's no one now remotely comparable to them. But you might try Bia / Ana Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL], [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-santos/[/URL] or Ins [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL].[/QUOTE]

Since this has come up recently, I want to add some recent local review board info about Klass Massage. This is a well-established knocking shop near Campo Pequeno. Two of their ladies, Vitoria and Melissa, recently got middling, satisfactory grades. 7 out of 10.

The main thing to note is the prices are still 60 e for 1/2 hour and 100 e for 1 hour.

This is a place where body to body massage ending in FS is standard.

I am linking to their own website, but all the ladies advertise on docemassagem, so those pics are verified.

[URL]http://www.klass-massage.com/[/URL]

Hey all,

I'll be in Lisbon in mid-June. This is going to be my first time with an escort (in any country), and I'm hoping to find a provider who's 35-50. I'm generally open to all body types and ethnicities but do have a preference towards curvy MILF types.

Does anyone have specific suggestions for providers or best sites to find an escort? Any tips for a first-timer in Lisbon?

I'll be visiting Lisbon with my brother for about 10 days so I would like to avoid outcalls to my hotel as much as possible. I think brothels are not allowed. So are massage parlors or incall the next best options? Are incalls safe?

Is it possible to pay with credit card or do I need to get cash? What will be the best way to get local currency for USD?

My goal is to sleep with as many hot girls as possible on this trip. Is 150/ HR a good deal?

If a girl is listed rate for one hour are they willing to doing 30 minutes as well?

Thanks!

In case it has escaped notice, Escort Privada revamped their website. There are two key new features.

One is it tells you who wants you to know who is actively seeking at that moment. My understanding is that EP actually owns the phone numbers their ladies use, and some of those ladies prefer to let a central handler make appointments while others prefer to do that themselves. Regardless, the agency sees everything.

Keeping that in mind and that all EP ladies advertise on Apartadox, I think their own website is now worth checking if you want an immediate response. Turning on the green dot on Apartadox site was always an extra step that few EP girls bother with.

The other thing is that they have added a menu for extra services, such as anal. The cheapos on the local board have actually been griping about what is an industry standard in Lisbon for weeks now (it's typical for a lady to charge extra for certain things), and now I see that is due to a new agency policy and feature.

As usual, they miss the point -- if you pay a girl for a swallow, she is doing it. It takes the guessing out of it, which they also griped about endlessly. Also, that they did all this without raising the basic rate means said rate will probably go unchanged for a while longer.

For those of us who already are in Lisbon with a hotel room for outcall, that is a very good deal.

Most ladies operate in cash and I strongly suggest you follow the cash rule. Frankly, I would worry about giving anyone in this industry a credit number, legal business or not.

IMO, if you are dealing with an incall lady from a photo-verified website, that is reasonably safe. These are the upper third of Portugal's sex workers -- they aren't looking to roll anybody. I summarized what those sites are a few pages back.

Brothels are one of those letter of the law issues Technically speaking, profiting from the sex work of another is illegal. Practically, there are fictions and loopholes. That is how brothels and FS Massage spas operate. So don't worry about that either way. What you will find are rooms secreted away in office suites and normal apartments, and most are long established in place.

The basic going rate currently floats between 100 and 150 per hour, leaning more towards 150.

The truth is that once you factor in fees and all that, you need to exchange a low four figure sum before the difference between the bank and a multibanco / ATM matters. The main issue isn't what is cheapest, but that there is a 200 euro limit per day on ATMs for foreign cards in Portugal. So, you should plan on bringing some cash to exchange at the start unless you want to operate on a one hour per day plus pocket money budget.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeat2020;2704109]I'll be visiting Lisbon with my brother for about 10 days so I would like to avoid outcalls to my hotel as much as possible. I think brothels are not allowed. So are massage parlors or incall the next best options? Are incalls safe?

Is it possible to pay with credit card or do I need to get cash? What will be the best way to get local currency for USD?

My goal is to sleep with as many hot girls as possible on this trip. Is 150/ HR a good deal?

If a girl is listed rate for one hour are they willing to doing 30 minutes as well?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

I don't want to ignore you, but I cannot refer anyone of your type from first-person experience. If nobody weighs in or you want more options, tell me who suits your fancy from the verified sites and I will tell you what the locals say about her.

See below for more.

[QUOTE=TravelingJoe;2704083]Hey all..[/QUOTE]

Traveling Joe and Miami Heat.

Have you guys read through the thread?

Kama gave us one of his favorite curvy MILFs (Bia Santos) and he and ExExpatriate know Lisbon better than anyone.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL]

Posts 4189,4187 and 4140 list a large number of Lisbon independents, almost all of which offer incall, and do 30 minute sessions if that is what the customer purchases.

The ads specify whether they offer incall. You need to contact them via WhatsApp to ask detailed location and prices.

There are at least ten independent ladies in those posts who definitely offer incall. We work hard to identify and list the best that Lisbon has to offer, based on reviews.

Most, if not all, have been reviewed here on ISG if you will use the Search function, but most of the good reviews have been identified on the local board.

Plenty of them to keep you happy in Lisbon even if you just do incall. Uber is active and will get you around. Use your smartphone to translate to Portuguese when necessary.