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[QUOTE=Breadman;2164012]Alright guys, an unspoken rule. .[/QUOTE]Hi Breadman. I can see that your post is going to generate some discussion, which is fine. For what it's worth, I'm with Natty on this issue. Wink and a smile, maybe. Maybe something to discuss at some later time, but not at an elevator or wherever.
But what prompted you to post this comment? Is there a story here somewhere? TTG.
[QUOTE=Gladiator69;2163584]From my research on this forum, Charoen Pharmacy on Soi 3
Is it still the case that these two pharmacies are the best shot?[/QUOTE]Charoen Pharmacy on Soi 3 will give you the Sidegra at the MSRP price. Not sure what percentage of the other pharmacies will give it to you at the MSRP price. In Pattaya, none of the small pharmacies would give it to me at the MSRP price. Charoen is convenient because it is close to Nana Plaza. The prices went up last year. Now I believe it should be 120 baht for box of 4 50 MG tablets, and 200 baht for a box of 4 100 MG tablets.
Sidegra is legal Thai generic Viagra.
Has Thailand started to manufacture legal generic Cialis? In the US, Lilly loses its Cialis patent later this year.
Charoen Pharmacy should have legit Viagra and Cialis, but at a lot higher price. There will be counterfeit Viagra/Cialis and Indian generics on the street. Those work, but some are blanks (probably due to quality control?).
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2164101]Nothing wrong with a nice friendly Hello,. The dude knows she a working girl. I don't think it is an unspoken rule in the least.[/QUOTE]I totally disagree with that. I think it's completely inappropriate to say hello to any working girl when they are already with another guy outside their place of work. It's also inappropriate for them to say hello to you when you are with another girl.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2164240]I totally disagree with that. I think it's completely inappropriate to say hello to any working girl when they are already with another guy outside their place of work. It's also inappropriate for them to say hello to you when you are with another girl.[/QUOTE]Why is saying hello inappropriate? A quick cordial hello/greeting/smile or acknowledgement is simply the human thing to do. The only way this becomes an issue is if either the WG or the customer is so insecure, thinks they own the other and creates a scene. She is a WG and he is a customer, everyone knows their role and conducts themselves like mature humans would.
[QUOTE=RunMann;2164247]Why is saying hello inappropriate? A quick cordial hello/greeting/smile or acknowledgement is simply the human thing to do. The only way this becomes an issue is if either the WG or the customer is so insecure, thinks they own the other and creates a scene. She is a WG and he is a customer, everyone knows their role and conducts themselves like mature humans would.[/QUOTE]Agree with you 100% Rue Man.
[QUOTE=RunMann;2164247]Why is saying hello inappropriate? A quick cordial hello/greeting/smile or acknowledgement is simply the human thing to do. The only way this becomes an issue is if either the WG or the customer is so insecure, thinks they own the other and creates a scene. She is a WG and he is a customer, everyone knows their role and conducts themselves like mature humans would.[/QUOTE]Ask the girls their opinion. I bet it's the opposite. I know in Indonesia, there is ZERO chance any working girl will ever say hello to me outside her workplace if I am with a girl. Why? Because they are professional. I give them the same courtesy. If I am alone, and they are alone, for sure we will both say hello to each other. If they are with another guy outside their place of work, I ignore them (unless they feel comfortable enough to say hello to me since I am alone). I can say hello to them the next time I see them at their place of work or send them a text.
Some of these girls have guys who are "in love" with them and send them money from abroad each month. Don't kid yourself into thinking every guy has the same hardcore mindset that these girls are just pieces of meat. Some guys will be disappointed if another guy says hello to the girl he is with. They actually believe they are special to that girl. To say hello to them while they are with another guy outside their place of work without them initiating the hello is possibly costing that girl money. The girls are of course unethical in finding guys who fall in love with them and leading the guys on, but who am I to spoil that for them?
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2164253]Ask the girls their opinion. [/QUOTE]You could ask the girls but they are not a monolithic group so you will get different answers from them. You are making this into the proverbial mountain when it is only a proverbial molehill, if that. If a girl loses money because you said hello or she did the same while she is with a customer that is not on her or the guy who simply said hello, or acknowledged her, its on the insecure idiot who does not get human nature. Plus I am not here to protect WGs at all cost, as long as I am respectful I can't concern myself with what others do.
Bottom line is there is no rigid rule on this issue and there shouldn't be. We all have different opinions and approaches but saying hello, or acknowledging someone is universally seen as a positive thing by reasonable people.
[QUOTE=RunMann;2164262]saying hello, or acknowledging someone is universally seen as a positive thing by reasonable people.[/QUOTE]Agreed. If they are not with another man.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2164268]Agreed. If they are not with another man.[/QUOTE]Too bad for you because I and others like me will continue to say hello, regardless of who they are with.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2164240]I think it's completely inappropriate to say hello to any working girl when they are already with another guy outside their place of work. It's also inappropriate for them to say hello to you when you are with another girl.[/QUOTE]I am 100% with you on this unless the guy saying hello is known and observed saying hello to every person he passes on the street or stands next to in an elevator. Which is highly unlikely short of someone with mental problems. It is classic cock blocking done by the other fellow, either overtly or passive aggressively. What is he hoping to accomplish? Maybe prompt a quick exchange of niceties and book a ST for later before the elevator reaches the third floor and the formerly loving couple steps off? Recount and recall all the old times fucking her ass and getting an hour long rim job from her last time? At the most, if I see such a couple passing me and the guy is looking off in the other direction, I might throw a quick wink of acknowledgment to the girl and done.
Even when the girl I have been with before turns away from her current customer to make a big deal about saying hello to me, even IN the bar and not when they are strolling around outside the bar, my response is to smile, nod, maybe reply Hi but immediately turn right back to whatever I was doing before and say nothing more. If she is going to be assholish about how she treats her current customer that is her business, there is no reason for me to join her in the effort. And what if the guy she is with doesn't speak English that well and has no idea what quick discussion you and his girl are having right in front of him?
Seriously, guys, there are THOUSANDS of potential fucks and sucks all around you at any given moment in Bangkok. There is absolutely no reason for you to even so much as hold the gaze of a woman for more than a split second when it is clear another man is paying the tab right now. Go work your own deal and spread your wonderful chemistry with the ladies with someone else just for this moment, someone without a customer already who needs the attention and the money, how about it.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2164253]Ask the girls their opinion. I bet it's the opposite. I know in Indonesia, there is ZERO chance any working girl will ever say hello to me outside her workplace if I am with a girl. Why? Because they are professional. I give them the same courtesy. If I am alone, and they are alone, for sure we will both say hello to each other. If they are with another guy outside their place of work, I ignore them (unless they feel comfortable enough to say hello to me since I am alone). I can say hello to them the next time I see them at their place of work or send them a text.
Some of these girls have guys who are "in love" with them and send them money from abroad each month. Don't kid yourself into thinking every guy has the same hardcore mindset that these girls are just pieces of meat. Some guys will be disappointed if another guy says hello to the girl he is with. They actually believe they are special to that girl. To say hello to them while they are with another guy outside their place of work without them initiating the hello is possibly costing that girl money. The girls are of course unethical in finding guys who fall in love with them and leading the guys on, but who am I to spoil that for them?[/QUOTE]Guess it is place specific. In Pattaya, I would not hesitate, in the bar areas of BBK, I would not hesitate either. In a 5 star hotel; that would probably be a different matter.
[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2096236]I've been wanting to go to Thailand for some time but I've avoided Asia because I'm a smoker and I can't enjoy a vacation without my weed. It's likes a drinker going on vacation somewhere where they don't sell alcohol. I've been to Philippines and I was able to find weed in Angeles. Can anyone tell me if weed is available and where to find.[/QUOTE]Go to Cambodia. Many happy herb pizza shops will sell it on 172st and many other streets in Phnom Penh. And pretty much everywhere else in Cambodia.
[QUOTE=ArnPoddict;2161665]Quite hard to get ST below 3000 nowadays unless you are weekly or monthly regular. Or Enrique Iglesias.[/QUOTE]April 1, BKK, Nana, I had the best session of my 10 day trip, 2 hrs 2+ shots, CL 32 yr old cuttie delivered to my hotel Soi 8, 2500 Baht, and I am no Julio Rodriguez rather a nice Falang who treated her nice, the quoted generalization may / is not true.
After the session, I took a walk to see how bad Terrmane was to us white guys after reading so many negatives over the past year hear in the Forum, at about 11:00 pm there were probably 100+ ladies lined up around the room, quite a few guys, most Asian, I was not in the market after my great session, but I would guess 15 -20 made eye contact and smiled back at me, several approached and one walked out with me and went 3 blocks up Suk with me trying to be friendly and not really pushy. (these were all doable) And as stated I am 60+ dress OK and my ex-wife still complains about my belly.
Conclusion We are in the land of smiles LOS, and the golden rule, I think being nice reaps rewards, so cheers and as always YMMV and RTFF.
Hi guys,
Total newbie here, just discovered the forum. Wanted to say thank you to everyone who participates and gives good information. Before writing this, I read about a years worth of the forum and really appreciates everyone who helps out this community.
Here are my experience in Bangkok in 2017 (two trips of 2-night layovers. So still semi-current).
I probably went to a total of over a dozen go-go bars. I took a lot of "best of" or "top 10" lists that seemed current and did my research. The areas included patpong, soi cowboy, and Nana.
By far, by far, the best girls I saw were in Billboard in Nana plaza (Billboard is on the third floor). There are two parts to it, a jacuzzi area which is very crowded and seems hard to get a seat, and a rotating circular stage on the other side where I was able to get a seat pretty easily most nights.
Why did I like it so much? Two reasons- the girls were smoking. Disclaimer- I prefer women with tan bodies (not white) and hate the Japanese anime type with braces. Many of the women had developed butts / boobs, and seemed attractive in a Western outlook.
The other reason I like it is that the stage rotates. This means I am not stuck looking at the same group of girls and its not awkward. I can look and peruse and the stage rotates in a circle, meaning I constantly get a good look and can make eye contact easily with the whole stage (seems almost like 24 girls at a time). No one is pushy, but at the same time, you have to be aggressive, the pretty ones usually have someone waiting to buy them a drink as soon as their dance time is over.
Angelwitch was a disappointment- I've been there before many years ago, and I remember the quality of girls being really high. In fact, almost all of the go-go bars didn't have girls I'the sleep with for minimal effort (by a drink and chat up), nevermind girls I'the pay to sleep with. (Suzy Wong's in Phuket had some real good looking girls, Billboard was the closest thing I saw in Bangkok).
Exceptions- Directly across from Billboard on the third level is a bar where all the girls wore different colors (like all girls on one side had pink bikinis, in the middle was green, etc). A map says its Butterflies (not sure if this is outdated).
I got placed on a couch in front of a middle stage. This absolutely cute girl came up to me and it was enough for me to think "woah" and immediately offer a drink. She was tall for a Thai, absolutely flat chested (and also flat stomach) but a nice plump butt. She was dark but had very nice features, like big eyes, big ears, straight nose etc. She was young, maybe like 21. I knew I would take her when she started grinding on me and I got really excited-.
Damage- Barfine 700, ST was 2 k. That was her offer, I didn't bargain but accepted.
Soon after I took her, I immediately regretted it. She seemed super bipolar, like all mad and upset one second and then sad the next in a Japanese anime way, like trying to be sad and cute. We walked to my hotel (maybe 7-8 minutes away) and during this time, she really worried me and pissed me off. It got to the point that I basically handed her a 500 baht note and told her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off. She immediately said sorry and promised to be happy. Great. Exactly what I'm looking for (sarcasm). Stayed at the Amari, which was a dump and full of certain types of arabs (sorry to be racist, I love arabs but these were the kinds that- well, you guys probably get it). Other Amari's in Thailand are very nice. Anyways, don't remember much about the actual deed- it wasn't a total bust but I remember being glad when I could send her away (you know when you just want to bust and get it over with). I never got close to being excited as I did when she was grinding me through my jeans. I saw her the next night, and she gave me that pouty look again- her behavior was not cute. But man, she looked nice. (Sidenote, there were at least half a dozen girls at Billboard hotter than her but it was the first bar of the night. When I went back at the end of the night, they were all gone).
Another one– Patpong. I apologize for not remembering the exact name. Its near the middle of the area, by a corner bar at an intersection with a live band (can view it from there). Its on the street with all the vendors, and has a number in its name "Kings III" or something like that. My friend and I were walking by when I saw a gorgeous, gorgeous girl with two friends out front. She grabbed my hand, and I let her drag me in. She looked very half Asian, true half Asian and not a surgery make up type.
In the bar, we were swarmed. Luckily I had my half-Asian girl and bought her a drink while my friend had to deal with a bunch of other mercenary girls. This place was uncomfortable, while we were in a small booth / couch with two girls, another dozen girls stood in front of us, just a few feet away, staring.
30 seconds after my girl got her drink, she said "lets go upstairs, I have a room, 30 minutes". I said "how much". She said 4. 5 k, one shot, naked and kissing is okay. When I hestitated, she was like "Okay, peace". She was the hottest girl I saw in Bangkok (working Thai), but I don't mind. Its not the money, I know with the attitude like that, she would have been a total shit. I would have paid 9 k for an overnight GFE with someone like her. Funny, she said she was half French and grew up there but didn't know a single word in French.
Thanks again for all your contributions and letting me be part of this forum.
I have a tendency to never pull the trigger on a girl, always waiting and passing up great opportunities because "lets see what's at the next place". I am not saying take the first option you can see, but this method has never served me well. If you are like me, take something nice at like 10 pm Short term, then you can always have midnight-close to chase your unicorn without blue balls.
After the bars close-.
I've watched the Sukhumvit stretch between Nana and Cowboy many many times at like 2 am – 4 am. I've never seen anything nice. Its fat Africans and ladyboys. One time I saw two girls get their fortune read by some grandma on the street, and I did the same. I bought the girls food, but had no intention of anything else- That is the closest I've seen and if I didn't take them (despite their urging) at 4 am while I was desperate, that can explain the quality available.
A taxi driver took me to one bar, but I don't know remember the name / location. Maybe the description will help. It was around 4 am. It's a big room with small tables and a bar to one side, a pool table on the other. The biggest attraction is a very large you shape couch with maybe 15 girls sitting on it. They are facing you (like a fish bowl but with no glass). You can choose them- Quality seemed okay, but I was more interested in making friends with random peeps and drinking / pool. Don't remember the prices. Don't wait till late! Bangkok is not like other cities, sex becomes much harder when the entertainment zones close (though available).
However, there are after hour clubs.
Lets start with MIXX-.
MIXX is in the intercontinental hotel. If you are close by, don't pay for a cab / tuk tuk- tell the driver "Free ride, right?" They get commission. Forget the entrance, probably about 400 baht with a free beer / drink. There are two parts, one with a long bar (s) and dance floor, the other has a DJ with two bars and is a smoking area with a lot of tables. I remember drink prices being not that cheap, maybe 200-300 a beer. People say that all the girls here are working girls, though I see a lot of Thai girls in groups with guys dancing. A plus- there are a few Russian / CIS girls here. Now, please note- this is not BRIXX in Singapore or a nice place in Dubai. The Russian girls here are like 5-6's, with an occasional 7-8. I spoke to two girls in that 7 range, one said she was polish and the other was "Russian" (probably Central Asian). Both girls wanted 10 k which I may have paid but both got disinterested when I started to get into details like 'how long will you stay' and 'is DFK okay'. It was more like "You like me, you pay me, we go. Why ask questions". Yeah. That means I will probably get burned.
I think this club closed down at 3 am- after which means everyone went outside to the entrance and there were some last minute negotiations. I went to two other places, which I believe to be Climax club and Insanity club. Here, I saw almost exclusively Thai girls (any Russian / CIS were like super old and worn out, like 50's – 60's), its super loud, super dark, and not sure if I really like it. I had a few conversations with some girls, all who wanted between 4-5 k for the night. Wasn't really feeling any of them though. In these clubs, in my experience, you have to approach the girls. Girls are not approaching you unless maybe you are standing next to them at the bar and smile.
People talk about Soi 3 (Sukhumvit) and Grace hotel if you are looking for CIS or Arab girls. I walked Soi 3 multiple times but did not see anything I would count as a "working girl" from those races. Shit ton of Arabs / South Asians though (restaurants reflect this). However, I did discover the "Royal Garden Home Hotel". Its on Soi 3, a little past the Pakistan Embassy if you walk past the Pakistan embassy on your left (away from Nana), it will also be on your left. I went in, was greeted by a local guy who took me up to the second / third floor. Here, you have about 12 small hotel rooms, each one with a CIS girl in it. He takes you by each one, you get a look and maybe say Hello, and then you make your choice. He wanted 3,500- but I told him that my friend s aid 3,000. He said okay.
The girls range from youngish (late 20's) to older (early 40's) Most of them are Central Asian, though some look straight Slavic. I took the first one, a girl with a lip piercing. Small youthful tips, short hair (middle of the neck) and a very small belly. Room was okay, it seems this where the girls actually live. I had a shower, she had one, and we got to business.
Usually in situations like this, I like to give the girl a tip upfront (1 k) and warm things up by a massage. She accepted the tip without any words and then laughed when I tried to give her a massage. "Don't be nervous" she said, then popped on a condom and started an okay BJ for 30 seconds before doing the whole 'spread legs, go for it'. We actually had a decent time and I think I would have a better time as a regular customer. Oh, some of these women I saw were very smiley and friendly. I'the check this place out again.