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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2178735] One girl after learning that my hotel is two BTS stop away offered me 3000 for ST and would not budge on price. From what I know the standard is 2500 ST and 5000 LT. I just stepped away and to cut things short, I selected a different girl for ST.

Several things add up to my shitty experience with these Thai girls. Strike 1, they started counting their time as soon as you exit the bar. WTF. I lost almost 30 minutes by this count. Strike 2, need dim lights, no kissing, have to be CBJ, no can do for this, no can do for that, the don't list feels like a damn rule book. I almost kicked her out (and of course still pay her the amount owed) with all these rules. Strike 3 - She rushed me hoping that I can come as soon as possible. If you read my past Pattaya post, similar shit happened to a girl that I had bar fined for LT, and I did in fact kicked her out of the room less than 15 minutes into our session. Anyway, I did not pop with the Thai girl from Thermea. What a waste of my time, money and energy.
[/QUOTE]First of all, let me assure you that, despite all the wonderful reports of fantastic sex and fulfillment on these and other sites, it is EASY to spend as long as a week in Thailand and get virtually NOTHING worthwhile sexually from the P4P girls you encounter no matter where they work or where you find them. That sometimes happened to me when I used to come here on vacation 20-25 years ago when I was younger and fitter and, believe it or not, it has actually happened to me 2-3 times (weeks) while I have been living here for the past 5+ years.

I don't mean I couldn't have found some poor bedraggled soul during those bad spells who would spread her legs for me. YOU can find a poor soul who would spread her legs for you this very minute. But that isn't what we're talking about, right? I'm talking about finding a new Thai girl with whom it clicks, I am inspired to fuck her and the deed is done with the right attitude for a reasonable price. Going as long as a week without finding such a new Thai girl has even happened to me, I will admit it here before god and everyone.

Now, having said that, I suppose what I would have done (and what you might try the next time in Thermae or anywhere) is when the girl that intrigued you quoted 3,000 baht, I would have said, "Oh, pang pang (expensive). But I would be happy to give a lady 3,000 baht IF. " and after that "IF" is where you list all the things you need to make it work for you; No Hurry, DFK, No Condom For BJ, whatever. Yes, this approach is suppose to ruin the mood and dilute the chemistry. So what. Sometimes this is what is necessary in order to start fucking in Thailand the way you want and break the spell of what you are experiencing right now.

Was it the 3,000 baht that stopped you with the first girl? Again, I would have gladly paid 500 baht over the going rate IF the girl had agreed to behave the way I need her to behave to keep me from kicking her ass out the door. I find that once they are fixated on a certain baht amount to make them happy and they hear a potential customer more or less happily AGREE to pay it, they do not keep as much of a death grip on their limitations to earning it. I usually get much more enthusiastic agreements to the things I suspect you want in the deal as well once I have let them know that, no problem, I can easily pay a girl 3,000 baht for ST and can't wait to do it. Got it right here in my pocket. And more right next to it. Can you smell it? I am almost about to pull it out of my pocket and give it to you without a hitch. But. It does matter what she does for and with me before I give it to her. Smile a lot when you explain that to her.

Maybe that approach will work, maybe not. But it might be worth a try. I honestly believe that if you had set out with that approach, always making your agreement to pay her quoted rate contingent upon you getting what you want in the room other than some vague "sex for money" conventional understanding of it, with as few as 3-4 different girls to your liking, ONE of them would have said yes and meant it.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2178735]I don't mean to offend anyone with this rant, but I do need to get this off my chest since it has been a constant miss for me with Thai girls thus far from Pattaya last year to Bangkok this year. Their MO have always been "Let's just get this over with type of attitude".

[/QUOTE]Everyone goes through dry spells. Stay positive and don't get too frustrated. Don't think too much about your streak of bad luck. It will pass. In the meantime be happy and cheerful and try to find pleasure in the small things in life. Good food, drink and the kindness of people you meet. Women (of all nationalities) have sixth sense and if you are full of pent up frustrations and exhibit a bad attitude your troubles will just compound themselves and you will not find what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2178840]First of all,

SNIP

ONE of them would have said yes and meant it.[/QUOTE]SAGE ADVICE.

All ye newcomers who enter here, read this post before ye fucketh Thai chicks.

[QUOTE=Goons;2178718] One or two I considered kept asking my hotel name and room no[/QUOTE]A Hotel name might serve as a price indicator. I was asked that a few times and found out the reason for it. But that was not in Thailand. So not sure if it can help.

A room no should only be given to direct the girl to your place. So after you agree to a session.

Anything else is not consistent with what you want and maybe shaky. Not very important to find out exactly what that is.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2178845]Everyone goes through dry spells. Stay positive and don't get too frustrated. Don't think too much about your streak of bad luck. It will pass. In the meantime be happy and cheerful and try to find pleasure in the small things in life. Good food, drink and the kindness of people you meet. Women (of all nationalities) have sixth sense and if you are full of pent up frustrations and exhibit a bad attitude your troubles will just compound themselves and you will not find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that encouragement. Actually, I had done my fair share of mongering across the globe, from FKK Germany to Private Haus in Amsterdam to Dominican Republic to Indonesia to Singapore and of course now Thailand. To me the journey is more important than the destination, and that is why I focus on the experience and interactions with the ladies. Even in FKK where the turnover is high, I only go for those ladies that I truly enjoy, not just on the sex but on the way how they make me feel. That is why I am so disappointed this time with the experience with the Thai girls. Actually, I have been having a good time with this Bangkok trip, albeit with the Uzbek girl that I met the first night and we hit off right then. It is just disappointing that it is not with a Thai girl instead.

Anyway, I have been hitting different clubs two nights in a row now with her, and probably another one again tonight before my trip back home. Nope it is not a freebie if you happen to ask. I paid her for LT price the first night and has continued to do so each night based on that rate. We have not discussed money nor price other than the first time I met her. It is the gentlemen agreement that I compensate for her time, and she is a working girl after all. I even prefer to leave money on the table and remind the girl to not forget pick them up before leaving the room. As the saying goes, I may not remember what the girls and I had done, but I can always remember how the girls had made me feel.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2178865]SAGE ADVICE.

All ye newcomers who enter here, read this post before ye fucketh Thai chicks.[/QUOTE]Yep. Eih Tooms and Uncle V's follow up post couldn't be more accurate. The interview process is a key to making better selections. Now in my mid 60's and overweight, I find less girls will go with me. And I am not an outgoing barrel of laughs. . But my percentage of good times is much higher than ever. It's all in my attitude and the interview process. Great advice in these recent posts for newbies and even some of us oldies.

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2178355]Go late 3 or 4 nights in a row. And then go early 3 or 4 nights in a row. You'll see.[/QUOTE]Since I'm in Chiang Mai now (zzzzzz.) hopefully I can return soon and test that out haha.

Lefeu and SexInStl.

You both are very right! It is more so about quality over quantity, for me as well.

I retract that absent-minded statement, especially since I hadn't been there at 8 pm. Yet.

I was surprised to find a girl with a Japanese look I like, spoke good English and great personality, she also wouldn't budge under 3000 for ST, but I accepted.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2178868]A Hotel name might serve as a price indicator. I was asked that a few times and found out the reason for it. But that was not in Thailand. So not sure if it can help.

A room no should only be given to direct the girl to your place. So after you agree to a session.

Anything else is not consistent with what you want and maybe shaky. Not very important to find out exactly what that is.[/QUOTE]Yup, I made and appointment with a lady on CL. She was excited and wanted to meet me ASAP. When she asked me the hotel name and I said "Ambassador", she never showed up. I Lined her and ask her when she was coming and she said that she had many disappointments at the Ambassador as most are Indian and bad news always follows. She canceled.

RL.

I can't remember to have been mongering on a Sunday but I will remember that last Sunday was the worst day I have encountered from all my BKK mongering days in terms of quality. Went to Nana at around 8. 20 pm and started first with Billboard and went further to Buterflies, Twister and Bangkok Bunnies which was by far the worst place of all. Absolutely no woman that caught my eye. All places were rather boring. The same goes for the WG's who looked rather uninterested. I have been reading that Fridays and Saturdays are the days when it's the most busiest with more WG's around which is understandable. Thermae was also so-so even though I never went to Thermae between 8 and 9 pm. Ended up with Dollhouse which has some lookers but I wasn't in the mood anymore. Can I conclude that Sunday is the worst day to go to gogo's or was it just bad luck?

[QUOTE=Hiete;2179164]I can't remember to have been mongering on a Sunday but I will remember that last Sunday was the worst day I have encountered from all my BKK mongering days in terms of quality. Went to Nana at around 8. 20 pm and started first with Billboard and went further to Buterflies, Twister and Bangkok Bunnies which was by far the worst place of all. Absolutely no woman that caught my eye. All places were rather boring. The same goes for the WG's who looked rather uninterested. I have been reading that Fridays and Saturdays are the days when it's the most busiest with more WG's around which is understandable. Thermae was also so-so even though I never went to Thermae between 8 and 9 pm. Ended up with Dollhouse which has some lookers but I wasn't in the mood anymore. Can I conclude that Sunday is the worst day to go to gogo's or was it just bad luck?[/QUOTE]I was out last Sunday night, too, walking along Sukhumvit Soi 4/Nana Plaza area with a new regular, non P4P girlfriend who had just come to visit me from Korat. She had never seen that area before and was flabbergasted that virtually every girl within sight, except for the servers at Hooters, were working girls prepared to have sex with a stranger for money at anytime. "Thai girls?!" Yeah, honey, Thai girls.

But I swear I remarked to a friend of mine just yesterday that last Sunday night had to have had the worst looking freelancers and outdoor beer bar girls up and down Soi 4 and nearby Sukhumvit of any night I have ever experienced. LOL. It was actually spoiling my fun in indicating that this group of Thai girls over here, that group of Thai girls, here, there and everywhere were all available for sex with men, every day of every week, for money since almost none of them looked like they would get a taker on any night of the week. We didn't go into a go-go bar, so I don't have an opinion on how those venues were faring.

But last night was awesome. Tons of hotties. In fact, any night after last Sunday night was better.

The only thing I can think of is this has been a "Summer Break" from school in Thailand. Many of the working girls who can afford it, meaning those who at least get SOME customers sometime, might have taken time off from their daily work schedule to be with their kids, travel to or with them on holiday and so on. And therefore only the others were left working last Sunday.

During my last 4 night stay in BKK I must say that I had the best time in Dollhouse this time instead of Billboard or CH. DH has a pretty good vibe and girls seem to have fun. Music was OK even though Billboard still is my number 1 in terms of music. Some decent lookers in DH with #88 that drew the most of my attention. Now I must say that I'm usually a sucker for petite women with died hair, however.

#88 aka Zoda looks more like the artist Pink. Platinum blonde short hair, lots of tattoos and piercings and colored contact lenses. Not the tiniest and reasonable body. Don't think that she has undergo any plastic surgery. She dances well, like her attitude and interaction while she was on stage. He English was very reasonable even though I had difficulties to understand her due to the fact that a sat near the speaker. I was interested to take her to my room with me for LT but she mentioned that she can only do ST as she lives with her mother. She mentioned that it would be possible to go LT from 10 am until 1 am. Damage would be 5000 Bath LT which seems very cheap to me. Perhaps she or I misunderstood? As I was only interested to spend the whole night and morning with her I let it pass. Might give her a try if she's still around during my next BKK visit.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2179170]But last night was awesome. Tons of hotties. In fact, any night after last Sunday night was better.[/QUOTE]I left BKK last Monday. Thanks for sharing. I feel much better now! LOL.

[QUOTE=Hiete;2179179]I left BKK last Monday. Thanks for sharing. I feel much better now! LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL. It actually crossed my mind on Sunday that if this was the only night a punter ever strolled through the Sukhumvit/Soi 4/Nana Plaza area, he would never book another flight to Bangkok again.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2179195]LOL. It actually crossed my mind on Sunday that if this was the only night a punter ever strolled through the Sukhumvit/Soi 4/Nana Plaza area, he would never book another flight to Bangkok again.[/QUOTE]Funny that you mention this as it was exactly that what I was thinking of while I was sitting in Bangkok Bunnies! LOL.

But then again, what are the alternatives for a 3 to 4 night stay in SE Asia. Having this said though, while I was going to the airport I was already thinking when I will be coming back again to BKK. Soapies, Oilies, Gogo's, FL'ers, Bar girls, BJ bars, dating site and app WG's. It's all there within a radius of perhaps 2 - 3 kilometers. And not to mention the good food! As I usually stay near Soi Cowboy I end up in CH when I'm still alone and eat in "Love Scene" near CH. Food is good though when you want to eat after 1 am. If any punters know some other local places in the area that are open after 1 am then I'm more than happy to hear.

[QUOTE=Hiete;2179164]...Can I conclude that Sunday is the worst day to go to gogo's or was it just bad luck?[/QUOTE]For me, Sunday nights at go-go's have historically been the poorest in terms of quality, quantity and variety. A lot of regular patrons are expats who actually have work to do starting Monday morning. LOL Too, the visiting business guys from all over the planet need to be in an office of someplace on Monday morning. By Sunday night, they may have already gone through their entertainment allowance for the week or just need to rest up before going back to work. The girls know this. Accordingly, they schedule one of their "off days" for Sunday. The "rich" ones may pay their own barfine and not show up, having hit the lottery Friday and Saturday. The obvious "plus" is that, with fewer customers, the girls might be more willing to negotiate. On a nightly basis, pussy is highly perishable, good for about 6 hours if not purchased (rented).