Stupid Shit in Kyiv

QUOTE=ShooBree; No, Putin said two weeks.

And here we are three years later.

Little Putin failed, but he managed to lose 300 billion dollars of the Russian state's money. / QUOTE.

But he managed to prove that the Russian Army is The Second Best Army in Ukraine. LOL.

No military expert here, But I am willing to wager that The Israeli Army which is the best in the region, with many of soldiers and commanders are either Russian or Russian origin, would easily defeat The Russian Army in a conventional war, thanks to unlimited support by The US.

Yet this same Israeli Army was caught off guard on Oct 7, 23 by a Militia? One Israeli Arab Comedian joked, Palestinians proved 'Toyotas don't Break Down'. He was referring to the Toyota Pick Up trucks used by Nasty Hamas in its invasion of Israel on October 7.

All the talk here about wars, Himaris, Artillery, Jogged my memory back to what life was like in a Bunker in past wars as shown here [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IWhSCdnThaY[/URL].

LOL, Much more interesting Having Goldie Hawn pop up in the Bunker than a Ukrainian Look_alike of the Iron Lady born in Kiev, Golda Meir.

I was listening to the treasury secretary talk on Tucker Carlson yesterday, and it was clear that he knew that the Trump tariffs were going to take down the stock market in the short term. He made the case not just for the long term benefits. He said that the bottom 50% of Americans did not own any stock and were in debt, and that lower interest rates would help them. He also reiterated that the best thing for corporations to do was to move their businesses to the USA to avoid tariffs. The Democratic response will be that Trump did not know what he is doing, but that is bullshit, Trump was willing to take the short term hit to do what he thought was best for the country in the long term.

And that is why you know the Democrats are full of shit on Ukraine. If the elites and government really thought Putin was Hilter, then Biden should have not put on these bullshit just for show sanctions on Russian oil but really taken it totally off the market. So if this war were really serious and Putin really was Hitler, Russian oil should have been boycotted, and the price of gasoline would have reached $8 a gallon.

Did the Democrats say that though? Did they say $8 gasoline was the price we would have to pay to stop Putin? Of course not. In fact, the Democratic douches did the opposite of that. They drained the strategic reserve to get gasoline prices lower, and that is how you know the war is total bullshit. Do you remember what the Bush administration told us when we were at war with Iraq? Oh, yeah, go to the mall. Go shopping. Say what? Saddam had weapons of mass destruction he was going to use, and you are telling us to go to the mall? That told me the Bush crew and his prowar neocons, the same ones advising Biden, were full of shit.

In fact, the whole Ukraine thing was to distract from Covid which was taken very seriously when it should not have been. In fact, the end of the world apocalypse of Covid was switched out with the end of the world Putin is Hitler apocalypse. So whenever the government is spreading that kind of message, you should see if governments are really willing to put their economies at risk for that cause.

The government was willing to do that with Covid (even though they should not have) but not with Ukraine. If Europe really quit buying Russian natural gas and gasoline prices were $8 a gallon, then I might listen to you about Putin as Hitler, but until that happens, shut the fuck up! Get back to me when you are willing to make sacrifices.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2994927]/ QUOTE=Sirioja;2 But I meet Ukrainian women who needs to leave their country and they all tell me they dream to return, even quite poor country, after Putin who doesn't want to stop war and feel supported by shameful Trump gang. / QUOTE.

LOL, Why do you think he is called PUTIN, and not PULLOUT.[/QUOTE]When senile Trump failed to stop Putin war, I wish petrol rate will fall very down very fast, for less money for Putin criminal war. No more money is only way to stop Putin, when shameful Trump wants to make business with him and sucking him.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2994679]But I meet Ukrainian women who needs to leave their country and they all tell me they dream to return, even quite poor country, after Putin who doesn't want to stop war and feel supported by shameful Trump gang.[/QUOTE]The majority of the Ukrainians that have left Ukraine for the EU, etc will never return. Why would they. That's why Ukraine is dying demographically too.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2995785]The majority of the Ukrainians that have left Ukraine for the EU, etc will never return. Why would they. That's why Ukraine is dying demographically too.[/QUOTE]Not what I hear from their mouth. Why? Because they love their country and family. Despite stupid Trump, I wish criminal Putin won t get anymore money for his war soon. Petrol falling rate is good point versus Putin who will stop when only no more money.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2995785]The majority of the Ukrainians that have left Ukraine for the EU, etc will never return. Why would they. That's why Ukraine is dying demographically too.[/QUOTE]LOL, many of the Ukrainians will return but we all know that russia is dying from the inside.

The Russian people are fleeing putin and his failed war and his failed economy but they are not welcomed in the EU so that's why Georgia and Armenia are full of russian refugees.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/14/world/europe/russians-georgia-armenia-war.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/russia-tomorrow/a-russia-without-russians-putins-disastrous-demographics/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.business-standard.com/amp/world-news/russians-ignore-putin-s-call-for-more-babies-as-population-declines-125030800426_1.html[/URL]

Putin truly is a low level rat faced kgb translator that doesn't have the intelligence to run any country.

It's heartbreaking to see the evil that's attacking Ukraine and murdering Ukrainian children.

Little putin is an extremely evil war criminal and horrendously bad and corrupt old man.

Putin is not fit to be the leader of russia, he is mentally weak (putin lost 300 billion dollars at the start of the war) and he has a distorted view of reality. How else can you explain the horrendous photos of him without a shirt with his flabby belly and chips tits out for the world to laugh at? I would be embarrassed if I looked liked that and the whole world saw it.

Little putin should be way too old, fat and ugly to pose for those kind of pictures like he's a hot slutty college girl gone wild on Spring Break.

It's embarrassing, russia's governed by an old, fluffy egomaniac with the mentality of a slutty college girl gone wild.

There's no doubt that putin and his russia is waging a war against all of humanity and Donald trump is now his accomplice.

It has been obvious for years, and now no one can any longer with credibility deny the obvious, little putin is not interested in peace for humans. When the inadequate trump and evil putin speak about peace, they mean peace for russian oil and russian warships in the Black Sea guilty of murdering Ukrainian children.

Little putin wants wars, death and destruction.

He needs the dictatorships and wars to live on.

He wants children, humanity, democracy and honesty to die a gruesome death.

[URL]https://kyivindependent.com/russian-attack-on-kryvyi-rih-kills-19-people-including-9-children-injures-68/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2995820]It's heartbreaking to see the evil that's attacking Ukraine and murdering Ukrainian children.

Little putin is an extremely evil war criminal and horrendously bad and corrupt old man.

[/QUOTE]This is an over 18 site, Go away.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2995820]It's heartbreaking to see the evil that's attacking Ukraine and murdering Ukrainian children.

Little putin is an extremely evil war criminal and horrendously bad and corrupt old man.

Putin is not fit to be the leader of russia, he is mentally weak (putin lost 300 billion dollars at the start of the war) and he has a distorted view of reality. How else can you explain the horrendous photos of him without a shirt with his flabby belly and chips tits out for the world to laugh at? I would be embarrassed if I looked liked that and the whole world saw it.

Little putin should be way too old, fat and ugly to pose for those kind of pictures like he's a hot slutty college girl gone wild on Spring Break.

It's embarrassing, russia's governed by an old, fluffy egomaniac with the mentality of a slutty college girl gone wild.

There's no doubt that putin and his russia is waging a war against all of humanity and Donald trump is now his accomplice.

It has been obvious for years, and now no one can any longer with credibility deny the obvious, little putin is not interested in peace for humans. When the inadequate trump and evil putin speak about peace, they mean peace for russian oil and russian warships in the Black Sea guilty of murdering Ukrainian children.

Little putin wants wars, death and destruction.

He needs the dictatorships and wars to live on.

He wants children, humanity, democracy and honesty to die a gruesome death.

[URL]https://kyivindependent.com/russian-attack-on-kryvyi-rih-kills-19-people-including-9-children-injures-68/[/URL][/QUOTE]

Putin is an indicted war criminal by The International Criminal Court and rightly so and I said so on this thread more than once.

No whatabouty here, but this same court also indicted A Certain leader in The Middle East whose name we can't mention here in case it offends some!, Who will do his best to get what's left of Palestine For Free, Free Palestine what a bargain, LOL, And president Trump gets Gazzaland.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2996217]QUOTE=ShooBree; It's heartbreaking to see the evil that's attacking Ukraine and murdering Ukrainian children.

Little putin is an extremely evil war criminal and horrendously bad and corrupt old man.

Putin is not fit to be the leader of russia, he is mentally weak (putin lost 300 billion dollars at the start of the war) and he has a distorted view of reality. How else can you explain the horrendous photos of him without a shirt with his flabby belly and chips tits out for the world to laugh at? I would be embarrassed if I looked liked.

That and the whole world saw it.

Little putin should be way too old, fat and ugly to pose for those kind of pictures like he's a hot slutty college girl gone wild on Spring Break.

It's embarrassing, russia's governed by an old, fluffy egomaniac with the mentality of a slutty college girl gone wild.

There's no doubt that putin and his russia is waging a war against all of humanity and Donald trump is now his accomplice.

It has been obvious for years, and now no one can any longer with credibility deny the obvious, little putin is not interested in peace for humans. When the inadequate trump and evil putin speak about peace, they mean peace for russian oil and russian warships in the Black Sea guilty of murdering Ukrainian children.

Little putin wants wars, death and destruction.

He needs the dictatorships and wars to live on.

He wants children, humanity, democracy and honesty to die a gruesome death.

[URL]https://kyivindependent.com/russian-attack-on-kryvyi-rih-kills-19-people-including-9-children-injures-QUOTE[/URL]

Putin is an indicted war criminal by The International Criminal Court and rightly so and I said so on this thread more than once.

No whatabouty here, but this same court also indicted A Certain leader in The Middle East whose name we can't mention here in case it offends some!, Who will do his best to get what's left of Palestine For Free, Free Palestine what a bargain, LOL, And president Trump gets Gazzaland.[/QUOTE]Cherry picking and whataboutism would be the right way to describe your irrelevant posts and obsession to talk about the Middle East when we are in the Ukrainian part of the forum.

Do you still remember the 7th October when the Palestinians decided to rape, murder and kidnap over a thousand innocent Israelis, children and elderly.

You really don't want to talk about that.

The Middle East and North Africa is full of leaders that have committed atrocities, not at least the Palestinian, Gazan, Turkish and Iranian leaders.

I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but when it comes to MENA there's no city I would rather live in than Tel Aviv, a city where people are guaranteed human rights, free speech and religious freedom.

Have you ever asked yourself the question why Jews had to flee from there homes in other countries in the MENA region?

As I said earlier I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but I will never support isis, Iran and Palestinian terrorist groups.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2996217]Putin is an indicted war criminal by The International Criminal Court and rightly so and I said so on this thread more than once.

No whatabouty here, but this same court also indicted A Certain leader in The Middle East whose name we can't mention here in case it offends some!, Who will do his best to get what's left of Palestine For Free, Free Palestine what a bargain, LOL, And president Trump gets Gazzaland.[/QUOTE]This Shroobee dumbfuck doesn't have the balls to call a spade a spade. And yes, Netantyahu and Gallant are both also indicted by the ICC.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2996409]Cherry picking and whataboutism would be the right way to describe your irrelevant posts and obsession to talk about the Middle East when we are in the Ukrainian part of the forum.

Do you still remember the 7th October when the Palestinians decided to rape, murder and kidnap over a thousand innocent Israelis, children and elderly.

You really don't want to talk about that.

The Middle East and North Africa is full of leaders that have committed atrocities, not at least the Palestinian, Gazan, Turkish and Iranian leaders.

I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but when it comes to MENA there's no city I would rather live in than Tel Aviv, a city where people are guaranteed human rights, free speech and religious freedom.

Have you ever asked yourself the question why Jews had to flee from there homes in other countries in the MENA region?

As I said earlier I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but I will never support isis, Iran and Palestinian terrorist groups.[/QUOTE]From the chronology of the thread, you clearly don't understand the meaning of cherry picking nor whataboutism, neither of which fallacy is apposite in your discussion.

If anyone were guilty of these, it would be you. When you highlight the hamas atrocities but ignore completely the fact that Israel has massacred 50 x as many (50,000) innocent Palestinians, including women and children, in the last 1. 5 years alone.

Of course, you'd prefer to live in Tel Aviv or Israel, a colonising, misanthropic, rterrorising racist, state seems right up your street.

You should sacrifice your own land and your homes to the Israeli jews. We would see how far your supposed magnanimity stretches.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2996787]From the chronology of the thread, you clearly don't understand the meaning of cherry picking nor whataboutism, neither of which fallacy is apposite in your discussion.

If anyone were guilty of these, it would be you. When you highlight the hamas atrocities but ignore completely the fact that Israel has massacred 50 x as many (50,000) innocent Palestinians, including women and children, in the last 1. 5 years alone.

Of course, you'd prefer to live in Tel Aviv or Israel, a colonising, misanthropic, rterrorising racist, state seems right up your street.

You should sacrifice your own land and your homes to the Israeli jews. We would see how far your supposed magnanimity stretches.[/QUOTE]Hahaha, I'm not surprised to see another one of your unhinged rants about Israel and people guilty of criticizing the Palestinian terrorist organizations in Gaza.

I'm not a fan of Netanyahu, I wrote it two times in the post you replied to so people would be able to see that I'm under no illusions that Netanyahu is a perfect leader. It's obvious that the Israelis and their leaders are increasingly adjusting to the dominant Middle Eastern culture under which minorities like Jews and Christians have suffered immensely.

I can't help but to notice that you fail to address my question regarding why the Jews in other MENA countries had to flee their homes and go to Israel?

I understand that you don't want to answer that question because you'the be forced to face the truth and explain that Jews could only be safe in Israel, far away from the oppressive neighbors.

You call the Israelis colonizers but you avoid the fact that Christians and Jews have been oppressed by their muslim neighbors for centuries. Why would Jews and Christians have to live under oppression, violence and Sharia laws?

I have been to Tel Aviv many times and it's a wonderful Israeli city built by the Israelis.

When I go to Tel Aviv I feel freedom, I feel liberation.

Iran, gaza and turkey would benefit from that kind of freedom.

In Iran women get murdered by the regime for showing their hair.

In turkey terrorists from hamas walk the streets freely but journalists, politicians and ordinary people are jailed for wanting freedom and democracy.

In gaza Christians are suffering under islamists.

That's not the case in Israel.

I'm not Jewish, but Israel is the only country in the MENA where my human rights as a Christian are guaranteed.

You obviously don't know nor do you understand what cherry picking and whataboutism means. It's pathetic how badly you failed when you tried to throw it back at me. You truly are a child.

I don't understand why you're so aggressive when it comes to Israel when you ignore so many other issues.

1. Turkey & Northern Cyprus – Turkey has occupied Northern Cyprus since 1974, ethnically cleansing Greeks from the region, yet you people who demand "Free Palestine" don't say a word about "Free Cyprus. " Why? Because Turkey is a Muslim country, and criticizing it doesn't fit the "good vs. Evil" narrative you want to push.

2. Turkey's Foundation on Stolen Lands – Turkey itself was built on genocide and land theft. The Armenian Genocide, the mass slaughter of Assyrians, the ethnic cleansing of Greeks, and the ongoing oppression of Kurds—yet Turkey plays the victim and positions itself as a "Muslim defender. "

3. Azerbaijan's Ethnic Cleansing of Armenians – In Artsakh, Azerbaijan, backed by Turkey and jihadists, ethnically cleansed 120,000 Armenians in 2023. Did you care? No. No protests. No UN emergency meetings. Why? Again, because the victims weren't politically convenient.

4. Morocco & Western Sahara – Morocco and the Arabs have occupied Western Sahara since 1975, oppressing the Sahrawi people and silencing Berbers in the south. Yet Morocco waves the Palestinian flag as if they are against "occupation. "

Why is it Always About Israel?

1. Antisemitism – The obsession with Israel is fueled by deep-rooted Jew-hatred. Many of you people don't actually care about human rights — you just want to attack Jews and frame Israel as the ultimate villain.

2. Anti-Western Sentiments – Israel is often falsely labeled as a "white European settler state," even though over half of Israelis are Mizrahi Jews (from Israel, the Middle East and North Africa where they were victims of oppression and massacres from their Muslim neighbors). This false claim allows the far-left and Islamists to group Israel with "Western imperialism. "

3. Islamist Influence – Many of the loudest voices supporting Palestine are influenced by Islamist ideology, which doesn't just oppose Israel—it also supports Turkish expansionism and Arab supremacy. That's why Turkey and Morocco can wave the Palestinian flag while being some of the biggest oppressors themselves.

If you people actually cared about "occupation" and "colonialism," you wouldn't ignore Turkey in Cyprus, Azerbaijan in Artsakh, Morocco in Western Sahara, and Turkey's treatment of Kurds, Assyrians, Greeks and Armenians. But you don't care. Because for you, it was never about justice, it was about hating Jews and pushing an anti-Western agenda.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2996864]Hahaha, I'm not surprised to see another one of your unhinged rants about Israel and people guilty of criticizing the Palestinian terrorist organizations in Gaza.

I'm not a fan of Netanyahu, I wrote it two times in the post you replied to so people would be able to see that I'm under no illusions that Netanyahu is a perfect leader. It's obvious that the Israelis and their leaders are increasingly adjusting to the dominant Middle Eastern culture under which minorities like Jews and Christians have suffered immensely.

I can't help but to notice that you fail to address my question regarding why the Jews in other MENA countries had to flee their homes and go to Israel?.[/QUOTE]"You people" LOL, spoken like a good little bigot that you are. We understand what the "you people" means, it's "You" being the zionazis and evangelical christians against those who protest against your evilness. "You" vs. "Us". The same narrative used by "you people" to invade, assault, humiliate and massacre Iraqis, yes? You, people.

I have no issues condemning Turkey's assault on Armenia. And I have no issues condemning whatever discrimination was caused to the jews in the 40's or 50 sin other parts of the Middle East (even if it were the direct consequence of the establishment of Israel). Here's the thing, Mr. Act your shoo size, YOU can't condemn the wickedness of your zionazis which is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds and encapstulates your shamelessness. You zionazi's profess a moral superiority due to supposed injustices against you yet you brutalise and behave in far worse manner towards your victims.

You zionazis have literally stolen and continue to steal the lands of the Palestinians. You cannot condemn this can you? Land which continues to be stolen by blue eyed, blond supposed "semites" from Brooklyn with the natives thrown out of their homes. You align yourselves with massacring and brutalising (conveniently ignore the statistics that I presented earlier) genociders while indulging in logical and moral fallacies, such as "Iranians killing women for showing hair". That licenses your kind to massacre Palestinian Babies? What a sick perverse mind you possess.

The condemnation of Israel is for one reason alone: it's an evil, oppressive genocidal state. These are facts, not opinions. And if you condemn one belligerent state (Russia) you cannot get away with the selective ignoring of another contemporaneous belligerent state, Israel. That's why this is being flagged here, and no matter how much you try to cloak your hypocrisy in whataboutery fallacies you won't get away with it.