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It's an OK idea, but you may end up meeting a lot of sisters and cousins, because the potential long term payoff for them is much greater if you become family. If you give them a large success bonus, they may focus more on the bonus and less on sister/cousins.

[QUOTE=Hug Monster]Hello, Everyone.

As my Pseudonym would imply, I do like to hug and cuddle A LOT. However. I am not opposed to having sex, it's just not something I see as a "Goal" when I visit a bar or go on a date.

My question: As I read this Forum, I see a lot of stuff about Bar-Fines, Pro's, Semi-Pro's, etc. And how easy it is to get laid in AC, Cebu, Massage Parlors, and a lot of places. I also read a lot about how you can pretty easily go to a mall and meet a couple of girls, (shoppers or employees), who will go back to your hotel and play-around with you, while there is an assumed "Tip" for her when she leaves. I am heavy, but not ugly. I am very kind and clean. I will have a NICE hotel room or Condo to go to.

I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.

SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"

Is this such a crazy idea?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]I'm surprised no one has really analyzed this one yet.

It sounds crazy, but it also sounds very interesting. In the chat forum people write about how to handle multiple dates in a day (avoid overlaps), and others are either for or against the idea of a chat contact bringing a friend. For the record, I usually allow female friends/ cousins and on several occasions found that the chaperone facilitated the tryst, or in two cases, provided future dates since the original target was unsatisfactory. You seem to be approaching things from a different angle. The more the merrier.

The fly in the soup is the intense jealousy you often find with Filipinos. As soon as you show any favortism for a gal, you might get bad vibes from the others. Are the five actual targets, or just facilitators?

Rather than make it one week paid employment, you might consider a one day or one evening free dinner. Maybe some extra reward if she introduces you to a winner...although that goes without saying. I can't think of any reason to eat at Jollibee though.

As others have said, you might want to try the chat route, Cherry blossom/Filipinaheart/ Cebu?? Cebuana... ( I can't remember...), or even DIA (free).

Good luck. I'm looking forward to hearing how this strategy works. How long will you be in Philippines for your "search"? X[/QUOTE]You asked how long I will be in PI for my wife-search. Well. On my

Initial 3-week trip, I will just be there as a fun vacation, but I plan on moving there two months later and stay for many years. How many ways are there to stay for a long time (years)? Is the only choice to get married, or could I get some type of business visa?

Mr. X,

I forgot to include this answer in the other post. You asked me if the five wife. Search helpers were actual targets, or just facilitators? I had planned on choosing 5 girls who would make for an interesting evening, or a nice GF, just in case one of them likes me as a boyfriend.

[QUOTE=X Man]
The fly in the soup is the intense jealousy you often find with Filipinos. As soon as you show any favortism for a gal, you might get bad vibes from the others. Are the five actual targets, or just facilitators?

As others have said, you might want to try the chat route, Cherry blossom/Filipinaheart/ Cebu?? Cebuana... ( I can't remember...), or even DIA (free).

X[/QUOTE]

X

You raise a good point about jealousy. I forget how many times I have spoken to girls that jealousy is a nasty negative emotion and not, as they seem to routinely think, a show of love for their mahal (love).

Hence when I find a favourite, I have a long chat about jealousy and explain that I am not jealous....hence seeing her with other guys is perfectly normal for me so threesomes and group are also normal....just 'sex fun'. In the same vein I discuss girl girl and that I maybe (;)) a naughty boy with the girls, so don't be jealous is just 'sex fun'

Once you get this message across (and it can take time and sometimes you will never succeed), life is easier.

Then you only need to worry about the jealousy of her friends/relatives some of who, will try stir it up to make her leave you or vice versa so they can have you.

Wlaking through SM Department storre in makati once with Cbeu favourite was interesting in seeing the girls give her the 'eye' as she was with me shopping....she also noticed a few and said they jealous...so even if you and her are OK other may try to mess up your relationship ...out of jealousy :)

PI is a weird but wonderfully chaotic and corrupt place and I learn more each time I go back.

But HM...watch out for jealousy, deal with swiftly and directly, do not pussy foot around it as Filipians wont understand this, be direct and say stop it or you are out as she will try to wreck everything so she has you to herself....when we start thinking with a little brain then we lose all reasoning with the big one.

Enjoy your adventure

PS X...which of the 2 sisters was the picture of..the newbie that my favourite liked or the more experienced one?

WR, I think that is great advice about Jealousy, Dragonslayer must have the ability to handle that.

I am like you in that I am not jealous, Never have been. But when dealing with a jealous person and doing the things we do. We, get the well your freind has a bigger dick or is a better kisser thrown in our face. Or the other version of do you think she is good looking? There seems to be no honest answer if she is better looking.

And telling them more than a mouthfull is a waste does not satisfy them or I really like your ass or pussy the best does not work. These are all versions of the trap I end up in.

But I am going to heed your advice and lay the law down on the first day. So, thanks for the good advice.

I did a search, and got no returns for this forum.

Any rooms recommended for short time, and the going rate girl/room.

[QUOTE=Hug Monster]Hi Everyone,
All of your replies were very helpful and I feel that (based on your input), there shouldn't be a problem in PI for my brother.[/quote]
HM,

Very good advice was provided by some senior members but I will add a little more. Your brother should have no problems gaining access to the PI, but to make sure he should apply for the entry visa to the PI before he leaves your country that way he will save himself any hassles if for whatever reason he is denied entry upon arrival. It should not cost that much. Look online for a list of PI Consulates in your region.

[quote]For the person who asked me the extent of my disability... I have a few problems... Such as:

1. I take many meds and need reminders

2. I have a little trouble walking very far and if I fall down, I am down on the ground until someone helps me up, and at 360 lbs. It takes a big person to pick me up.

3. I am a little bit absent-minded and if I leave my money or passport on a counter, or in a taxi, I am in big trouble.[/quote]

I am sorry to hear about your disabilities, but I will give you my thoughts. First your size will create a problem for alot of the younger girls in the 18-25 range. If they can choose someone they prefer younger thin men, but not always. You will just have to look and search harder for a woman that accepts you and thoughly test her in chat online before you arrive to make sure she is ok with your situation. Make sure she can see you on webcam before you travel to the PI so she knows what you look like and you can guage her response. If I were in your shoes I would accept a woman that was not as good looking but who I could get to know over time and trust with my life and who would take good care of me providing you do the same for her and her family.

[quote]However... I am only 50 years old, my pension is $1100 a month, I have $115, 000 in a trust fund and I am a very nice guy. GIVEN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, how does this forum see my chances of finding a cute wife in PI?[/QUOTE]

HM, make sure not to share this info with any of the girls you might find yourself with. Just tell them you are not a rich man but a simple man who can share what little money you have with "insert name here" to help her and her family. DO NOT UNDER TELL THEM ABOUT THE TRUST FUND! If they know exactly how much money you have or how much you get per-month it will only mean they know how much to try to milk you for. I am not saying all woman are bad in the PI but there are alot of scammers who make a very good living off guys and they are experts in playing games with emotions and lying to finance there own dreams. Just get to know her and over time you can be the judge if she is the right one for you or not.

[QUOTE=Hug Monster]Hello, Everyone.

As my Pseudonym would imply, I do like to hug and cuddle A LOT. However. I am not opposed to having sex, it's just not something I see as a "Goal" when I visit a bar or go on a date.

My question: As I read this Forum, I see a lot of stuff about Bar-Fines, Pro's, Semi-Pro's, etc. And how easy it is to get laid in AC, Cebu, Massage Parlors, and a lot of places. I also read a lot about how you can pretty easily go to a mall and meet a couple of girls, (shoppers or employees), who will go back to your hotel and play-around with you, while there is an assumed "Tip" for her when she leaves. I am heavy, but not ugly. I am very kind and clean. I will have a NICE hotel room or Condo to go to.

I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.

SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"

Is this such a crazy idea?[/QUOTE]
HM,

OK, once again I will be the voice of reason, the voice of clarity and I will give you some advice and if you want to listen to it or not its up to you but you really should be set straight.

First, while your plan to build small huts or houses for the poor maybe well intentioned and come from a wish to help the poor but it's just wrong and will never work. Just abandon that plan right now. You have to have a spot close to where the people need huts and you will find quickly you will be triple-charged for everything related to the building proces and the small inexpensive huts you wanted to build will quickly become a mess or red tape and budget over charging. If the locals smell blood or free money they will take advantage of your good heart and even if you do manage to give a few huts away, the truly poor have no lot to put it on, and will become squatters where you build the hut. The owner of the land will come along and "reclaim" the huts after you have turned your back and then become in effect a landlord and charge them monthly rent which they can't afford so your huts will be sold and the money pocketed by others. Give up on that plan now. Once you have been in the PI for awhile hook up with a good local charity and if you want to help out then you can do it through them.

Your other plan to find 5 woman to "help you" in finding the right woman for you is another useless plan, it's a 'crazy idea" and that too should be abandoned. Just don't do it, simple. First the girls will be only motivated by money and they will drag every scammer and women with 6 kids to meet you. If they smell blood and the cash in your pocket then every scammer girl and every well used bargirl will be very happy to line up and apply for your wife. BE CAREFUL! If the 5 girls you hire really like you there maybe alot of tampo and maldita infighting among the girls that could go on behind your back and when you are not around. This is just a bad bad idea if you are looking for someone serious to be with you.

If however you are only looking for hug partners or casual sex then this might work, but even then its a marginal plan at best. Not worth the money you would spend on the girls weekly fee when you can take that cash and go to a gogo bar and barfine the sexiest women in there for a week. Anyways this plan of yours will not work.

Now I will go off on a rant here, and its based on HM's thoughts and not directed at him. Dont get offended, and I mean no disrespect.

At the risk of being flamed and serious backlash from some of the senior members of this board I will give my two-cents worth. I think the senior members of this board have done a dis-service to all the lurkers and newbies out there who plan there first trip. They read how we bed 5 or 6 different girls a day, they sit back and read how poor the Philippine people are, they read how all the girls will just jump on any foreign guy who walks in the mall or how we get complimentary blowjobs when we land in Manila after a long flight. They read how it's so easy to pick up shopgirls or to find a girl in the mall, on the street or on a dating webite. They dont get it, they sit there and they soak it all in and have wet dreams and they think its very easy and no work is required to get 5 girls a day or how easy it all is. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT!

Sure we post some amazing pics of the sexiest young woman, sure we might meet a girl from the dating websites and within 30mins we are in the hotel getting a blowjob as we spank her ass and play with her wet hole, and all that for just the cost of a meal or some taxi money. It can be that easy, but truthfully it takes alot of work and alot of effort. Very few senior members of this board will post about the problems they encounter or the times they came up empty with women they met from the internet or when they go looking for women in the malls. It can be very easy at times to get woman, and other days things just do not go your way. I think Dragonslayers post on his CDO thread were a very accurate and truthful example of sometimes it's not that easy to score or line up women in the Philippines.

My advice to anyone thinking about going to the Philippines for the first time would be to read everything you can but to realize it will take some effort and some game to score average non-pro woman on a regular basis. You have to be in the Philippines to fully understand what I am talking about, and to get used to the way the women think and to find ways around the tampo attitude and to be able to quickly size up a girl if she is looking for a husband, a boyfriend or will be ok with just some fun. You will feel the effects of as one senior member stated the "Brad Pitt Pill" when you arrive in the Philippines and its real. You will get lots of attention from all kinds of woman and that's the reason why the Philippines is such a special place.

I´m not sure how far $1,100 a month would go. Probably Spamhog or some of the other forum members who are residents could chip in, but it doesn´t seem like that much to me since HM will be renting and will need a place with AC due to his physical situation.

Beginning with Stroker Ace 88, Redman, WR and all of the rest...

Thank You! Thank You!

That is a LOT of Advise and a LOT of input.

This forum is Way Cool for that reason and it is very helpful.

Hello, David 33,

As I read a lot of these posts, I was lead to believe that $1000+ per month would be enough to live in PI, as long as it is NOT Manila. Am I wrong? Thank You for your input and please share any advise.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88]

At the risk of being flamed and serious backlash from some of the senior members of this board I will give my two-cents worth. I think the senior members of this board have done a dis-service to all the lurkers and newbies out there who plan there first trip. They read how we bed 5 or 6 different girls a day, they sit back and read how poor the Philippine people are, they read how all the girls will just jump on any foreign guy who walks in the mall or how we get complimentary blowjobs when we land in Manila after a long flight. They read how it's so easy to pick up shopgirls or to find a girl in the mall, on the street or on a dating webite. They dont get it, they sit there and they soak it all in and have wet dreams and they think its very easy and no work is required to get 5 girls a day or how easy it all is. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT!

Sure we post some amazing pics of the sexiest young woman, sure we might meet a girl from the dating websites and within 30mins we are in the hotel getting a blowjob as we spank her ass and play with her wet hole, and all that for just the cost of a meal or some taxi money. It can be that easy, but truthfully it takes alot of work and alot of effort. Very few senior members of this board will post about the problems they encounter or the times they came up empty with women they met from the internet or when they go looking for women in the malls. It can be very easy at times to get woman, and other days things just do not go your way. I think Dragonslayers post on his CDO thread were a very accurate and truthful example of sometimes it's not that easy to score or line up women in the Philippines.

My advice to anyone thinking about going to the Philippines for the first time would be to read everything you can but to realize it will take some effort and some game to score average non-pro woman on a regular basis. You have to be in the Philippines to fully understand what I am talking about, and to get used to the way the women think and to find ways around the tampo attitude and to be able to quickly size up a girl if she is looking for a husband, a boyfriend or will be ok with just some fun. You will feel the effects of as one senior member stated the "Brad Pitt Pill" when you arrive in the Philippines and its real. You will get lots of attention from all kinds of woman and that's the reason why the Philippines is such a special place.[/QUOTE]

I believe you are making a very good point here. I was one of those newbies making my first trip to the PI earlier this year and yes it took a lot more work than I expected. Some of the regular girls I chatted up like hotel receptionists, waitresses, shop girls were not much easier than girls back home. Of course it's easier than back home, there is no way I would hook up with that many girls in two weeks at home, but it's good that you are giving some realistic advice. This is not to say the others are giving bad advice, I like to read them and think of them like Sportscenter highlights so to speak. Anyway I'm looking forward to my next trip back, I will be better prepared for sure.

[QUOTE=David_33]I´m not sure how far $1,100 a month would go. Probably Spamhog or some of the other forum members who are residents could chip in, but it doesn´t seem like that much to me since HM will be renting and will need a place with AC due to his physical situation.[/QUOTE]

David 1000 USD is good amount to live a comfortable lifestyle, i have lived in both Cebu and Manila....only high cost would be apartment rent (10,000 fully furnished), electricity charge which would be the real killer if you cant adjust to the climate...A/c 24/7 would cost more than 5000 pesos..if you get used to table fan for day time atleast the cost will be half. rest all are small small expenses, if you eat out couple of night a week have fun etc still it would not cost more.

As you get used to living here, you can live for as low as 600 USD outside of cebu city.....many expats are living in that amount also with rent as cheap as 4000 pesos but its in remote places....good for people who are already settled

good luck

[QUOTE=Col Law]I did a search, and got no returns for this forum.

Any rooms recommended for short time, and the going rate girl/room.[/QUOTE]


CL

There is a Sogo in Cebu

[url]http://www.hotelsogo.com/branch/cebu.html[/url]

Other mongers have used v cheap hotels that are very cheap for the same purpose but allows you more time and likely more girls :D

[QUOTE=Toronto]I believe you are making a very good point here. I was one of those newbies making my first trip to the PI earlier this year and yes it took a lot more work than I expected. Some of the regular girls I chatted up like hotel receptionists, waitresses, shop girls were not much easier than girls back home. Of course it's easier than back home, there is no way I would hook up with that many girls in two weeks at home, but it's good that you are giving some realistic advice. This is not to say the others are giving bad advice, I like to read them and think of them like Sportscenter highlights so to speak. Anyway I'm looking forward to my next trip back, I will be better prepared for sure.[/QUOTE]
Toronto, SC etc

It is hard, especially as a newbie and certainly we dont always get lucky. Much also depends on your mode of attack so to speak. I have a number of contacts like many senior members who visit and mix that with malls and web sites. It is the former that always gives the best results and that is only achieved by multiple visits, being nice/respectful etc and not being a dick!

The other routes you will have some success as we all have but is a LT solution which is tough if you are there for a short time and want as much pussy as possible...for that try Mango etc, but then YMMV and the service can be different. Hence contacts always give me what I like and from that comes more as they always have friends happy to meet me and they know I will be 'generous' and kinky - so we all know what will happen.

SA you wont get flamed as you make a valid point and if newbies spent time RTFF before hand they would know it is not that easy. For some senior members who visit regularly they work the web sites and have some definite dates (Gangles is a good example) so the trip goes off reasonably successfully

Others like me and GL have some web site dates but mainly build on the contacts we meet as we come across as nice guys and visit PI regularly.

Toronto, as you found, it is a mix and hit and miss. But eventually you will find your comfort zone and understand that PI is not as easy as everyone thinks but certainly easier than our home countries...imagine chatting up a 18 year old in a mall in the USA or Europe as a 50+ year old man....you will likely be called a pervert (something I am proud to be called at times especially by the ladies who are smiling at me when saying it:D)

As for the 'Brad Pitt' pill...it works but you still need to put in the effort and sometimes as SA said it still is not successful as DS said on the other forum. XMan and I sat in Red Lips the other week and the guy next to us and 3 cuties (my Cebu favourite and the 2 sisters he posted about), was not happy as no girl would go near him....as he was known to be a dick and a cheap charlie....so pays to be nice (and use after shave and deodrant please!!)

Happy hunting