Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2196317]Interesting report. Good on you for cutting her fee down to 2000 for converting an agreed upon LT to a ST. But it must have been after 2 am by the time you got to your room so a 6 am departure would have barely qualified as a LT anyway, no? Still, a 600 (?) baht barfine + 2000 for ST with a decent, repeatable girl from a top Soi Cowboy go-go bar must be about as low cost as it gets these days.

You are well into repeating with her and it seems she gave you her WeChat info on the way so she must not have been ticked off enough by your reduction in payment to walk off in a huff, right? There was no indication that she would ruin your reputation by telling the other girls about what happened behind closed doors re that payment? Would you say she is as eager to repeat a ST with you for the same 2000 baht? Or does she have reason to bank on it being a 2500 ST as long as she doesn't lie about it?[/QUOTE]You are no doubt correct, it merely qualifies as LT, however as per Baccara girls ST is 1 shot or 2 Hrs whichever is earlier and LT is 4 Hrs for most good looking girls. I am not sure whether they were fooling me around but both #17 and #25 mentioned me these timings for ST / LT. We reached hotel around 2:15 and my plan was 3 shots before she leaves at 6 am or whatever so 4000 sounded a right price to me. I don't remember correctly but I guess barfine is 1000 for downstairs girls and 600 for upstairs girls at Baccara irrespective you are taking for LT / ST, correct me if I'm wrong.

First thing, her communication was really convincing when we agreed for LT at 4000, I never felt she was lying. However, if she had not agreed for LT I would never have BFed her. I might have end up BFing #17. The reason she changed her mind I doubt is the cover rupture thing she doubted, it was super thin and being new to this she was scared it ruptured inside while I was throttling her. May be that was the reason she didn't want to continue.

I really liked her and would have given 500-800 tip had she stayed with me until 6 am. When she changed her mind to ST it was disappointing for me, she asked me for tip but I asked her stay until what we agreed to get the tip. She gave me her WeChat after all this happened before leaving, so I guess she was not unhappy. After she left I sent her a sad face smiley to which she replied good night. I don't know what was going in her mind but guess she had no intention to ruin my reputation. I won't mind a ST 2500 + 600 barfine with her at any point of time but lying is something I hate the most.

May be another report on her will make it clear.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2196317]Interesting report. Good on you for cutting her fee down to 2000 for converting an agreed upon LT to a ST. But it must have been after 2 am by the time you got to your room so a 6 am departure would have barely qualified as a LT anyway, no? Still, a 600 (?) baht barfine + 2000 for ST with a decent, repeatable girl from a top Soi Cowboy go-go bar must be about as low cost as it gets these days.

You are well into repeating with her and it seems she gave you her WeChat info on the way so she must not have been ticked off enough by your reduction in payment to walk off in a huff, right? There was no indication that she would ruin your reputation by telling the other girls about what happened behind closed doors re that payment? Would you say she is as eager to repeat a ST with you for the same 2000 baht? Or does she have reason to bank on it being a 2500 ST as long as she doesn't lie about it?[/QUOTE]I do that anytime a girl wants to cut the evening short after agreeing upon LT, hand them 2 k and let them know that you aren't pleased. Had a girl last trip for 3 k a night and on the second day (didn't pay her for the first day) we went out to the bars, ate together but before we could get in a second round after an afternoon romp she wanted to go to a friends birthday party. So I paid her for the first day only since she didn't want to stick around for another round.

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;2196521]I don't remember correctly but I guess barfine is 1000 for downstairs girls and 600 for upstairs girls at Baccara irrespective you are taking for LT / ST, correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]I have only barfine from downstairs. It is the same price but you have to buy 2 lady drinks plus and the barfine. I know the popular girls will only go to the ST rooms across the street if they don't know you and maybe for only 1 hour. All the popular girls are downstairs.

Someone told me to try it. That it greatly enhances the sex. I read about it on the internet and wouldn't mind. I was told to ask a bar girl and she would bring it to your hotel. Is this a safe method?

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2196605]Someone told me to try it. That it greatly enhances the sex. I read about it on the internet and wouldn't mind. I was told to ask a bar girl and she would bring it to your hotel. Is this a safe method?[/QUOTE]Avoid. If caught, you're looking at the rest of your life in a Thai prison.

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2196605]Someone told me to try it. That it greatly enhances the sex. I read about it on the internet and wouldn't mind. I was told to ask a bar girl and she would bring it to your hotel. Is this a safe method?[/QUOTE]Yaabaa is / or is close to Amphetamin (spelling?).

I would not recommend it.

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2196605]Someone told me to try it. That it greatly enhances the sex. I read about it on the internet and wouldn't mind. I was told to ask a bar girl and she would bring it to your hotel. Is this a safe method?[/QUOTE]Are you kidding? Yaba is drug and is illegal, try hit if you want to risk to spend several years in the infamous Bangkok Hilton (and if you don't know about Bangkok Hilton, google it). I think is against forum's rules asking where and how to find drugs!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2194773]
Eihtooms, do you need us to quote all of MP's posts so you can read them?[/QUOTE]If someone has blocked you and you want to see his posts then just read the forum without logging in.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2195824]...Keep in mind this is with top girls at the top go go bars where the girls are friends and like to chit chat amongst each other. Not freelancers, escorts, or Thermae were gossip and rumors are less likely.

So with go go bar girls and rejection. Things that will keep "the best of the best" girls from going with you are IMHO are.

1. Having a rep of seeking BBFS.

2. No paying the agreed amount for any reason.

3. Causing pain or hurt during sex for any reason.

4. Belonging or have a history with their best friend in / out of the club.

I like to use #239 at Baccara as a prime example.[/QUOTE]Two more things that will get you plenty of rejections at a go go bar from the girls, especially the top looking ones (who are all friends). This list was complied with the help of some the go go bar girls at Rainbow 2 by the way.

5. Having a reputation or rumor of an STD.

6. Having a reputation of poor hygiene.

Let's see. Maybe because it's illegal as hell in the USA? And every time that hooked up with a hooker in the States, I would have to worry about a pimp and LE knocking on the door? I've mongered in the USA plenty, and it's scary. There are stings and prostitution busts everywhere. A high end escort with the body and looks that I prefer, in the USA is about $250-500 for maybe 1-2 hours and there is absolutely no game playing or chase to it. It's too easy to fuck them. And I have way too much time on my hand because I have nothing else to do. I like the games the top end Thai go go bar girls play with customers. I like the chase they provide me. Honestly, it's fun for me to play back with them.

This is a full list to where I've payed and played with countless of hundreds and hundreds of girls from escorts, brothels, karaoke bars, massage shops, red light districts, strippers, and sex clubs in my entire life: USA, Mexico, Philippines, Hong Kong, China, Russia, Indonesia, Germany, Belgium, UK, Holland, Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Switzerland, Spain, Italy, Czech Rep, Austria, Hungary, South Korea, UAE, Qatar, and Ukraine.

But #1 is always going to be Thailand because those trophy girls in Thailand go go bars are not easy. I enjoy finding and targeting the best girl at the best go go bar. Isn't that what hunting means? You are supposed to be eyeing the top and best trophy girl, and then see if you have enough game to nab and catch her. I enjoying stealing her form her customers, making them envious. I enjoy making her mine for a few hours, days, or weeks, then swapping her out for her best friend. I enjoy making them a bit jealous of each other when it comes to me. Sometimes I get a kick out of them getting angry at me. I once had a girl who I have been with a long long time ago try to kick me while dancing on stage. She was drunk and I guess her true feelings about me came out. She was one of the first girls I barfined at that club and by then I had already gone through about 20 other girls. I guess she got tired of seeing me walk out with a different girl after I ditched her. It's call creating chaos. The rest of the girls in other countries are simply too easy to get. Not enough drama, not enough story line. It's all about the entertainment for me. I came to Thailand to enjoy playing games and fucking girls with the playmate looks and playmate bodies like in the two pics with Thai girls in bikinis (these are what I mean by top tier trophy girls). Not like the average girls wearing white dresses in third pic (these girls come to easy for me). And yes, there have been times when I've done a non silicone girl with only cute looks for charity. No regrets there either, but it was way too easy.

(By the way, when I write that I had paid a girl like #239 at Baccara a high amount like 8,000 for 3-4 hours or 10,000 LT or 15,000 for 24 hours, those are far few and only for a handful of girls, plus not all the time. These girls are always trophy girls with the looks and bodies of playmate models. These handful of girls were / are my favorite and I was / am their VIP customer. That means, even if you or any other customer is sitting and drinking with them, they will finish their drink, dump any other customer, and walk out with me for the night. And that's done by my choice, meaning if I want them tonight or not. Not by their choice. To be a VIP customer to a specific girl like #239 at Baccara, you always have to pay her more and treat her better than the rest. Not sure if most or any average guy on here will understand what I'm saying when it comes to reputation and paying more to be a VIP customer. But if anyone finds themselves getting rejected over and over by the better looking girls, and not knowing why, then it's wise to heed my advice).

[QUOTE=Gonzo88;2196316]Hit Nana Plaza the other night at about 8:30. Way too early, but had a few beers as things geared up. Looked in a few places, Billboard was clearly the best for thin ladies. Saw #84 dancing on the merry-go-round. I smiled at her, she smiled back. When I saw she had braces, I thought I would keep looking, but before I knew it, the mamasan was bringing her over. She was really good looking, so I did not complain. Probably 22, great body, pretty face, only downside was braces and totally flat chested. I ended up buying her 3 LDs, one for the horrible fat ugly mamasan, and one for a nice waitress who was friendly and cool. Pulled #84 LT, BF was 1000 baht, LT was 5000. I could have haggled it down I think, because the bar looked pretty slow, but I could not be bothered and as I said, she was looking pretty fine.[/QUOTE]I was there recently and the BF was 700 baht. It could be that I only asked for ST? I usually do not visit go-go bar because of the mamasan and drinks. I think I know which fat ugly mamasan you are talking about, I have a hate for 1 too. I went to billboards for two nights. Any ways, if you go back look for #14, #19, #39, or #804.

Number #19 is a con though, watch out for her.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2196300]If you believe that, open a gogo for strictly Indian customers. See how long you stay in business.[/QUOTE]The fact that there might not be a market for Indians-only gogo bars in Thailand doesn't change that your typical gogo bar here even makes money with customers who only drink a single water. And that's what we were discussing; not the feasibility of completely different business models.

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2196605]Someone told me to try it. That it greatly enhances the sex. I read about it on the internet and wouldn't mind. I was told to ask a bar girl and she would bring it to your hotel. Is this a safe method?[/QUOTE]Go straight to jail, do not pass go, spend your remaining years in Thailand's prison system.

Smoothy, it is an infinite loop of back or forth conversation that will never lead to the partitioning of person and cash.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2196300]If you believe that, open a gogo for strictly Indian customers. See how long you stay in business.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Amnesia;2196071]Nonsense. Even for a bottle of water their profit margin is big and you're just filling excess capacity.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Smoothy;2195674]I consider ordering one drink and milking that over 4 hours to be tantamount to ordering nothing. The staff notices which type of customers do that and it's those type of customers who get the bad rep. People can try to call it racism or discrimination for reasons other than monetary, but it is not. It's simply that those type of people are not making them money. If you owned a gogo where every guy in there was milking one drink all night, you would quickly go bankrupt. Who can blame them for not wanting that type of guy as a customer?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amnesia;2196780]The fact that there might not be a market for Indians-only gogo bars in Thailand doesn't change that your typical gogo bar here even makes money with customers who only drink a single water. And that's what we were discussing; not the feasibility of completely different business models.[/QUOTE]That is complete bullshit. I have to be on the Smoothy side. Rent for a bar is high in prime real estate. Many staff to be paid salaries. They have to keep selling drinks. There is a very high turnover of bars in Nana simply because they go out of business. The fail to attract the right customers in sufficient numbers. Not enough customer buying drinks frequently enough. It is that simple.

Sure the bar can tolerate the odd customer sitting on one drink, but they don't like it. They need bar to be nearly full and with enough customers making a big spend over 1000 baht.

The entertainment is only able to be free on the basis that you keep buying drinks. Otherwise the costs of the dancers and other staff outweighs the spend of single drink customers.

Really all of the bars are trying to attract big spend customers, and as many as possible.

Mercury bar was getting a lot of Indian customers as had few skinny girls. Wasn't going good at all despite a few Coyotes. They had to change approach and are now a LB bar.

In a busy bar a one drink customer is hurting profits, perhaps better than nothing in an empty bar but it is only 100 Baht. Doesn't pay anything much. Even a customer seen sitting on one drink could be viewed as potentially having a bad effect on any other customers, seeing that it can be tolerated.

It is simple though, for those who don't want to buy a lot of drinks and are no longer interested in the entertainment. Meet the girl secretly outside the bar, or leave the bar quickly having seen there is no girl of interest to Barfine. I have my bargirl contacts. We can meet elsewhere when she is not attending the bar. Watching bargirls dance gets boring pretty quickly, so I am only there briefly to find and meet any new talent, if any, for some bars. If I don't have a girl to maybe fuck found, then no point to stay there.