2006 Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Please explain advantages/disadvantages of "the Soi 33 places."

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

The Soi 33 bars are generally quieter. Based on your prior posts of not liking intrusive people, you will probably like the laid back "give your space" type approach that many of the Soi 33 bars offer. It is, on the other hand more expensive. In some cases 2x or more expensive. The girls are dressed to portray a higher class of girl, although some will argue that they are Nana girls in better dresses.

I like the Soi 33 bars as a change of pace.

AT2

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Mauldid-

It will take you about 45 minutes to go directly from DM to the new airport assuming there is no traffic and about 30 minutes to the Sukhumvit area from either airport, again with no traffic. If you hit a jam, not unusual in BKK, it can take double that or more. As AT2 said, it depends on how much time you have been flights. It it is five hours or more, Bangkok is yours and you can pick the pleasure that appeal to you most. Less thasn five and you have to be very careful with your planning.

Evil[/QUOTE]

I agree. My experience of around 30 minutes is due to my flight schedules, which are generally during lower traffic periods (After 7:00pm at night or very early mornings like 4:00am).

AT2

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Wow. Was going to go to Eden on my return to Bangkok, but this scares the shit out of me (no pun intended).[/QUOTE]

Billpsu,

If I could make a suggestion, if you have the time, here's my BKK sampler platter:

1 Super Soapie (Poseidon, Utopia, etc.) There are at least a dozen that are worth visiting. Be sure to check out the "models" in the bar areas.

1 Go-Go (Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, etc.)

1 Oil Massage w/FS (Angels, Subway etc.). In this category, there are variations such as Akane (HJ with Japanese lube) or Sazanka (Salt Scrub, massage and HJ finish).

1 Freelancer (Nana Car Park, Siam Hotel backstreet, Beer Garden, Gullivers, Nightclubs like CM2, Hard Rock, etc.)

1 Gentlemens\Membership club (Pent Executive, Pegasus, etc.). Note - A membership is not actually needed.

1 Soi 33 Bar (Many to choose from and all within easy walking distance from each other).

1 Fried Bug (If you buy this one, then my opinion carries much more weight than I thought).

There are many more options, but those are the highlights that I can think of for the first timer in BKK. I would add that Eden does deliver a unique experience, so I would not write that one off entirely. It depends what you are looking for.

Peace,
AT2

I stopped by the Champagne Room the other night at 8:00pm and it was dead. Two girls sitting around and no customers. A pity, since it has a nice vibe to it and is different from most of the other bars in town.

AT2

What about Thermae?

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Billpsu,

If I could make a suggestion, if you have the time, here's my BKK sampler platter:

1 Super Soapie (Poseidon, Utopia, etc.) There are at least a dozen that are worth visiting. Be sure to check out the "models" in the bar areas.

1 Go-Go (Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, etc.)

1 Oil Massage w/FS (Angels, Subway etc.). In this category, there are variations such as Akane (HJ with Japanese lube) or Sazanka (Salt Scrub, massage and HJ finish).

1 Freelancer (Nana Car Park, Siam Hotel backstreet, Beer Garden, Gullivers, Nightclubs like CM2, Hard Rock, etc.)

1 Gentlemens\Membership club (Pent Executive, Pegasus, etc.). Note - A membership is not actually needed.

1 Soi 33 Bar (Many to choose from and all within easy walking distance from each other).

1 Fried Bug (If you buy this one, then my opinion carries much more weight than I thought).

There are many more options, but those are the highlights that I can think of for the first timer in BKK. I would add that Eden does deliver a unique experience, so I would not write that one off entirely. It depends what you are looking for.

Peace,

AT2[/QUOTE]

I often stay at the Dynasty Inn Grande, since it's a decent room and it's discrete (No walk of shame .. and I have alot to be ashamed of! LOL!). On Soi 4, there's a small hole in the wall bar called the Tavern. They have a good (not great) American breakfast (3 Eggs, Bacon, Ham, Home Fried Potatoes). Great if you like crispy Bacon like back home (If you are from the states).

Another nice thing about it is "J". Sorry, but I'm not sure how you spell her name. Attractive (girl next door) and easy to talk to. I have not tried the "take-out" option, since I enjoy going there in the mornings and don't want to add the potential drama in the mornings, if it did not work out! LOL! There's also a hot hostess at the Nana Coffee shop that I saw yesterday during brunch. Not sure of her name, but very nice.

Just thought I would add a tidbit of a post.

AT2

Hi everyone,

After a marvellous week in Pattaya, I travelled to BKK. Thi is my first time here so any conclusion on my psrt are my experiences and impressions and should not be taken as purely objective.

Accomodation: I booked a room with Thai House Inn. I checked in and thankfully asked to see the room. It was a cockroach short of a cesspit. The guy who owns the place advertises one thing on the net but the reality is a far cry. I take by bag out and look around. Within 20 minutes I find another Hotel. Middle East. Nothing special but clean. I do not intend to stay indoors but at least I feel safe in the knowledge that there are no six legged creatures around.

Things to see: For newbies, take time to visit the sights. They are worth it. I booked my tours with an agent. To my surprise I was on my own with a guide (a real Isaan gem) in a taxi. Excellent, apart from the traffic! Visit the Grand palace, Emerald Buddha, Reclining buddha, Golden Buddha, Floating market, Rose garden. Jut to mention a few.

Money: BKK, at least the Sukhumvit area, is somewhat more expensive that, let's say, Pattaya. But don't get carried away-it won't cost you an arm and a leg. Mongering: Since my time here is limites I had to make certain choices. Don't take notice of the touts trying to get you to some show. They sound dodgy. The first place I tried was Gulliver's (Soi 5 Sukhumvit). Interesting place. The girls there are a bit older but a bit cheaper as well. Had two interesting cases which more experienced members may help throw light on.

Experience number 1: I sit down and start talking to this girl. She's from Laos and she works in a department store during the day. We get talking and she' pretty enough to take to the hotel. Once there, the receptionist tells me that since she's not thai there can be no guarantee if something happens. I hesitate and decide to play safe. I send her home. Did I do the right thing?

Experience number 2: having a drinl in the aforementioned place. Another girl sits down next to me, 31-33. Great body, sweet face. We start talking. During the converstaion it emerges that she despises Isaan, its people and its culture. She comes from BKK-born and bred there. On further enquiry I discover that ahe alo despise Thais from the south and the North (Chiangmai etc). I begin to get doubts whether I could really have fun with a girl who despises her own nation. I just leave. She tell me to "%&^%%^& off" I respond that she's a racist *****, pay my drink and walk off. Some of the other girl around me suppress laughter and I realise that I managed to get my way.

NANA: Interesting hole. It is a wee bit dirty. I did BF fine an interesting specimen (600B) + 2000B long time. She was great fun.

The parking lot had a number of girls who were also quite good looking but maybe another time.

THERMAE: What a Laugh. I never saw so many people there for the same reason but not talking to each other. Many japs getting drunk were the order of the day. Some of the younger girls only do short time because they've got a job or study in the morning. Quality was mixed. I woul have easily gone with one of the tounger ones except that I want long time experiences. I find the latter more involving and relaxing SOI COWBOY next time guys.

Take care you guys

Taka

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[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Mal,

You forgot one major detail. How much time will you actually have in BKK? It's only 30 minutes or so, from either airport into the city.

AT2[/QUOTE]5 days of fun.

[QUOTE=Cactus J]I will add my 2 cents worth. Only went once 4 years ago. It was quite an experience for a new commer to Bangkok! I developed warts on my asshole which was licked liberally by one of the ladies. I had no other anal play on that trip so there is no doubt where it came from. Very painful to have frozen off and expensive, burning cream to be applier for at least 30 days following.

I will not be back but YMMV.

Cactus J[/QUOTE]

That's an odd comment, Cactus J, considering that on 09-16-06 you wrote:

[QUOTE=Cactus J]I thought Marc had sold Eden and moved on. Is it really the same Marc who started Eden? I was there years ago and enjoyed my time there.

Cactus J[/QUOTE]

Here's the link to the [URL=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=507112&postcount=135]original post. [/URL].

So which version should we believe - that you you enjoyed your visit to Eden or you caught anal warts? Or something happened in the past year to get you pissed off at Eden?

It kind of reminds me of the old joke: "Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?" Or the more modern version we told in junior high school, "Other than that, Mrs. Kennedy, how did you like the trip to Dallas?"

Just to clarify - Anal warts are quite rare, but when they occur, they tend to be caused by the human papillomavirus (HPV), a family of 100 viruses that cause different kinds of warts in different areas of the body. It's very rare that HVP is transmitted through oral-anal contact (it isn't passed through body fluids). However, it's impossible to say that you caught HVP through a specific contact, since it can take anywhere from months to years for the warts to develope.

Evil

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Billpsu,

If I could make a suggestion, if you have the time, here's my BKK sampler platter:

1 Super Soapie (Poseidon, Utopia, etc.) There are at least a dozen that are worth visiting. Be sure to check out the "models" in the bar areas.

1 Go-Go (Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, etc.)

1 Oil Massage w/FS (Angels, Subway etc.). In this category, there are variations such as Akane (HJ with Japanese lube) or Sazanka (Salt Scrub, massage and HJ finish).

1 Freelancer (Nana Car Park, Siam Hotel backstreet, Beer Garden, Gullivers, Nightclubs like CM2, Hard Rock, etc.)

1 Gentlemens\Membership club (Pent Executive, Pegasus, etc.). Note - A membership is not actually needed.

1 Soi 33 Bar (Many to choose from and all within easy walking distance from each other).

1 Fried Bug (If you buy this one, then my opinion carries much more weight than I thought).

There are many more options, but those are the highlights that I can think of for the first timer in BKK. I would add that Eden does deliver a unique experience, so I would not write that one off entirely. It depends what you are looking for.

Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]

AT2,
Sadly I'm a monger in Thailand for many years but still yet to try an Upmarket Hostess Club, unless we count Livingstone's Lodge Sports Bar which I guess is a little upmarket with going too far. I just remembered I did go to the Club with Philipino Singers/Dancers but didn't take a hostess girl away.

Now once (or more) I was walking past Christies in Soi 33 when my jaw dropped on seeing the stunning girl working on the door.
For some strange reason I was too embarrassed to hang around and order a drink at the outside table, or was in a hurry.
Would Christies be worth checking out (anyone)? Are the girls on the door likely to be available, assuming that she is a class above all those inside?
I don't mind paying extra for a truelly 1 in several hundred type of superior girl but not for very average girls.

I was tricked into trying a salty scrispy depp fried grub at Livingstone Sports Bar but no true Bugs as yet.

Thanks for the tips on Catherines, Utopia, I have been meaning to try Utopia for a while based on recommendation from a soapie girl but was too busy on last trip.

The experience I had at Sazanka was among the best I have had. As my name implies I have been mongering for quite some time, too long really and Sazanka is really there. Not so much for the erotic aspects (nothing really beats a swingers party in Sydney or Paris or FKK in Germany) but as a total body experience it's really hard to beat. Anyway there was nothing more than HJ, but what a hand job.

Other posts have gone over the procedure. The Sazanka massage was the option I chose. The menu of girls was too complicated and so I went with the papasan's recommendation. Wouldn't normally do that, but, Giotto's and other reviews suggested it was ok here - and it certainly was.

Cut to the chase. The shower, body scrub and massage are about as good as you'll get at any legit massage place and right up there with Korean scrubs I've had in Soeul. The thing is, after such a good massage you are so relaxed that you almost forget about what's coming up (well maybe not).

The HJ was so well integrated into the whole service and so well done that it was close to an out of body experience! If believed all that alternative medicine stuff I'd say I'd reached some astral plain. I particularly liked the way she put my legs on either side of her and my arse in her lap. The opened me up completely and allowed All Areas Access. What a trip!

This experience was all about quality not PSE. Club Eden is for PSE, this is for a more relaxing, but still highly sexual experience.

Keep rootin' 'n reportin'

LTB

If you're in the Suk area and not up for a trip all the way to the big time soaps, Darlings is not a bad spot. Bit rundown and the papasan was a bit greasy. The line-up on the night I was there (Wednesday) was quite light on. I asked for the previoulsy reviewed Pim or Pam or somehthing like that. Papasan went out the back and got her. She was cute and small and smiled (like most, but she had something cool about her) and so it was a deal.

In room, it was all by the book. Mutual washing, bath with great body slides, Ok massage, BBBJ, CFS and so on. It was good, it was fun and it was good value. Was it a wild time, an erotic fanatasy; no. But I guess it depends a lot on the girl and YMMV.

Worth another try.

Keep 'rootin' 'n reportin'

LTB

Asiatraveler summed it up pretty well already, but I'll add my opinion. Following can be advantages or disadvantages, depending on your point of view.

1. On average, bars are classier (decor is nicer) and quieter than Nana/Soi Cowboy/Patpong. There's no go-go dancing.
2. Women wear evening dresses in many of the bars. They'll change to their regular clothes before leaving if barfined.
3. While I agree with Asiatraveler that the majority of the women are what you'll find elsewhere, only dressed up, there are exceptions. I've met university students in Soi 33 bars that were serious students.
4. There's a higher percentage of expatriates and businessmen among the clientelle, vs. sex tourists (like most of us).
5. On average mileage on the women is less, unless of course they hang out in Soi 7 during the daytime, used to work at Nana, etc. That has its own advantages and disadvantages -- do you prefer someone fresh or someone experienced?
6. The flip side of "5", the reason the mileage is less is because of 1500 Baht bar fines. Drink prices are also higher. The women get part of the barfine, so theoretically you should be able to pay them less than what you'd pay a comparable girl from, say, Nana or Patpong. But it doesn't always work out that way.
7. A higher % of the women in the bars won't have sex with you. This can be annoying if you're buying someone high priced drinks and then find out she won't leave with you. And it can be really annoying if you pay the barfine and then find out she won't sleep with you, although that's never happened to me. You can avoid these problems by asking before you buy.
8. Some may argue with me on this, but on average I think the English skills of the girls on Soi 33 aren't as good as Nana or Soi Cowboy.
9. There are decent women in the bars early in the evening. In fact, the best time to go is before 9:00 PM if you're drinking. The bars have happy hour specials that make drink prices competitive with other venues.
10. I haven't seen a lot of real stunners in Soi 33, and a couple of the ones I have seen wouldn't have sex with customers.

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Please explain advantages/disadvantages of "the Soi 33 places."

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

Evil,

Yes I enjoyed everything about Eden except the problem I mentioned. I don't doubt your assessment of how it is transmitted I only know that to the best of my recolection I had no other anal experiences within the year prior. A friend on mine's wife has vaginal warts and he must go in and have them frozen off of his dick, and I thought the ass was painful! Nothing has happened to change my mind on Eden, I personally just will not go back.

Cactus J

Achieved Go-Go, Freelancer, and Super Soapie.

The problem I have with Eden now is the idea of anal warts (as mentioned in previouls post). That tends to scare you off.

Thanks for the "to-do list."

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Billpsu,

If I could make a suggestion, if you have the time, here's my BKK sampler platter:

1 Super Soapie (Poseidon, Utopia, etc.) There are at least a dozen that are worth visiting. Be sure to check out the "models" in the bar areas.

1 Go-Go (Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, etc.)

1 Oil Massage w/FS (Angels, Subway etc.). In this category, there are variations such as Akane (HJ with Japanese lube) or Sazanka (Salt Scrub, massage and HJ finish).

1 Freelancer (Nana Car Park, Siam Hotel backstreet, Beer Garden, Gullivers, Nightclubs like CM2, Hard Rock, etc.)

1 Gentlemens\Membership club (Pent Executive, Pegasus, etc.). Note - A membership is not actually needed.

1 Soi 33 Bar (Many to choose from and all within easy walking distance from each other).

1 Fried Bug (If you buy this one, then my opinion carries much more weight than I thought).

There are many more options, but those are the highlights that I can think of for the first timer in BKK. I would add that Eden does deliver a unique experience, so I would not write that one off entirely. It depends what you are looking for.

Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]