Too few to show a blip on the screen
[QUOTE=Philosophus;2588707]There are many very good people in the Republican party. They seem to get drowned out at times. There are also utter and complete idiots who I won't honor by mentioning their irrelevant names. These people are and will be costing the Republican ticket votes. Their fanaticism to fudge the truth about a not so conservative narcicist with autocratic leanings will peter out. And a few good people liky Paul Ryan and others shall shine again.[/QUOTE]Anyone with access to current and historical facts and data who is still calling him/herself a Republican today is by far more of the problem than the solution. I'll even include those too embarrassed by the results of their Party's governance to call themselves a Republican and hide behind the term "Independent". If there are a couple of "good people" still suggesting any sane pro-American ought to vote for a Republican again after what they have been responsible for over the past 100 years or more, then they are horribly misguided "good people" and are every bit as bad for America as the knowingly and proud anti-America Repubs.
The reason those possible couple of "good people" in the Republican Party get drowned out is because producing positive results for America is not what their chosen Party is about. Never has been. Never will be. Their Party's mission is to produce the exact opposite of positive results for America. And in that mission they have proven to be terrifically competent and successful whenever the American electorate is foolish enough to give them another, another and another chance to demonstrate their expertise at doing that very thing and nothing else.
Ryan is not just a USA economy-destroying hypocrite on government spending
[QUOTE=Horatio;2588712]What was Paul Ryan's position on govt spending when he was first elected and what was his legacy on govt spending when he left office?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]Theres two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump, McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthys assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.[/QUOTE]When the Republican Party House Leader then and NOW openly acknowledged his Party's wildly and historically popular (with virtually ALL Republicans to this very day) so-called potus behaved AS THOUGH he was on Russia's payroll and might indeed have BEEN on Russia's payroll at the time but the Republican House Speaker demanded his fellow "America First" bullshitters swear an oath of secrecy about it, sorry, folks, that is NOT a "very good person" for anyone except Putin.
Imagine how different the world would be today and how many Americans would still be alive if that supposedly "very good person" Paul Ryan had not demanded his fellow Repubs behave and keep quiet about what every lucid person on the planet with at least minimal comprehension skills could figure out and instead, oh I don't know, spearheaded and supported an Impeachment, conviction and removal from office for Trump sometime before he wasted Trillion$ on that totally useless idiotic December 2017 economic legislation and defunded the CDC in 2018.
I copied this but it is still worth reading.
I came across this as a comment on why liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?
It's well worth a read.
The serious answer: Here's what we really think about Trump supporters. The rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't.
That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."
That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."
That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."
That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."
That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "he sure knows me."
That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!
That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.
That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."
That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, Yes!
That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!
That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!
That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."
That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!
That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!
That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."
That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!
That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas. He explains that they're just "animals" - and you say, "Well, OK then. "
That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.
What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2020, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also. Hear me. Charitable.
Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.
Something for every Repungnicant bigot there
The Repugnant Q Anon Party operates under a large tent in a wasteland of ideas. Religious zealots, white supremacy, gun nuts, liberal contrarians who want to control others lives, but insist "don't tread on my tea party" Yeah, the Democrats are silly, thinking they can counteract the trend towards an authoritarian "strong man" who would roll back decades of progressive laws. Yeah, sleepy joe is a fool, Harris, a ineffective place holder. The wall should be located at the Mason-Dixon Line and another surrounding "Greater Idaho".
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2588939]I came across this as a comment on why liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?
It's well worth a read.
The serious answer: Here's what we really think about Trump supporters. The rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't.
That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."
That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."
That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."
That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."
That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "he sure knows me."
That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!
That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.
That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."
That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, Yes!
That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!
That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!
That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."
That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius![/QUOTE]
Obama being black and Hillary being a woman certainly added to the Repubs' hatred
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2588933]Of course RethugliKKKants hate Obama. He is black. He put black people into positions of power and RethugliKKKans hated that. Look at how many of them have a HO for BLM. Of course, they'll point to a few instances of rioting and paint all of BLM as terrorists. Even the MAGA slogan is racist as I and others have long pointed out. [URL]https://medium.com/s/story/the-maga-hat-rorschach-test-41f466364cfc[/URL] and [URL]https://chiniquy.wordpress.com/2015/12/17/african-americans-have-suffered-from-caucasian-american-terrorism-for-over-100-years/[/URL].
The sad part of all of this isn't that racism exists or that dumpism merely gave racists the cover to come out into the sunlight. No, the sad part is that HRC was right, at least in part. She called dumpers "a basket of deplorables". Since 74+ million of them voted for dump in 2020, she was wrong only in the size of the container.[/QUOTE]Oh, sure, the fact that Obama is black AND turned around the typical shit results he inherited from the outgoing Repub to produce the same far superior USA economic, jobs creation and national security results over Repubs that every other Dem produced for the past 100 years or more meant he will always be a special target for their hatred.
But Repubs despised FDR, JFK/LBJ, Carter, Clinton and now Biden for the same latter reason without any of them being black. Truman not so much only because he did not spoil the Repub fun of destroying the USA economy by dramatically turning it around when he took over. FDR had already done that.
This earlier post was a great and painfully truthful summation, btw:
[B]I copied this but it is still worth reading.[/B]
Another example of jobs Americans won't do
The person from NOTB claims (falsely, of course) that there are no jobs Americans won't do. This, of course, is the standard Republican talking point about increased unemployment benefits.
So, for him and the rest of the fascists, here's an article about picking Chile in New Mexico. Yes, the article is an "opinion piece". But the author researched newspaper articles going back 50 years and has included dates, names, etc. [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/opinion-backbreaking-jobs-chile-farms-060300514.html[/URL].
Of, course, the fascists will all shout "Lügenpresse".
When you open a can of worms.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2589449]Arhhh Man! Well that was short lived, as Mike Carey wins in Ohio.
"Trump-backed congressional candidate Mike Carey wins Ohio Republican primary. . . " [URL]https://nypost.com/2021/08/03/trump-backed-house-candidate-mike-carey-wins-ohio-gop-primary[/URL].
It would seem the GOP aren't yet done with the Orange Throne. Is the candle of hope flickering out for the GOP?[/QUOTE]The QOP won't be done with dump until they realize that dump is a fascist and that the QOP is full of white supremacists, racists, xenophobes, homophobes and misogynists. It will take overwhelming losses in 2022 and 2024 (at least) to do that.
The old adage used to be "When you open up a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is to use a larger can. " Rethuglicans need to say "When you open up a can of worms, sometimes you need to feed the rotten ones to the birds. "
