[QUOTE=Wendella]So in other words, you shall return. ;)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your optimism. I shall return, but it's unlikely I'll come again.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]So in other words, you shall return. ;)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your optimism. I shall return, but it's unlikely I'll come again.
[QUOTE=Saint Mint]To come charging into town, even with 1, 000 Baht notes being distributed like confetti, will not always guarantee a satisfactory end result. The younger girls, might be a little bit more selective these days, as to which customers they really want to please. After all, they just might have bank accounts bulging with cash themselves, that are being topped up every month by a few 'Special Boyfriends. [/QUOTE]Thanks all for joining conversation on this topic.
Saint Mint in particular hits the point, in my opinion.
Problem is that young girls go virtually with anyone but then perform good only with the ones they like. And how do I know if she likes me or not and where can I push her?
I mean, anal is just welcome not essential, but I assume that basic fk, BBBJ and maybe a c. I. M. Or c. I. F. Is admitted, but many times I found out they are not.
On the other hand, I don't like either to interview a girl from A to Z about what she does and doesn't before taking her to hotel.
So, I took many girls under a coin-flip conditions: would she like me and go for it or she won't and I would end up just doing plain bum bum?
Many girls let me down because, once in room, started their singing: "I am shy, I am dry, don't do this, don't do that, don't look at me (covering herself with sheets or towel). " Oh?! Are you kidding?
So, I was wondering if that just happened to me and why? Is it due to young age, high season, cheap rate. whatever?
Angel Witch: Wasn't a fan. Unattractive girls. Most of them were 5s. Lots of thigh cellulite. The shows were boring and seeing those thighs covered in oil was not pretty. Only redeeming quality was some of the waitresses are pretty cute.
Baccara: Some cute girls here. Mostly 6s and 7s, a few 8s. Nice club layout. I stayed here a while.
Dollhouse: Mostly 6s. The mamasan is very pushy and annoying. Club not laid out well and not too enjoyable to hang out in. A/C was blasting and I was freezing and so eager to leave.
I ended up taking a small 19 year old girl out of dollhouse. We agreed to LT for 2000 bhat. We boomed 1 time and then slept about 3 or 4 hours and then she wanted to leave. She tried to claim it was LT. I said OK she can go but I wouldn't pay for LT. Paid her 1000 bhat. The 1 boom boom was very good though.
Anyone have any advice on where I can go to see some girls who are real stunners (9s)?
I have a craving for a gorgeous girl.
Too often I'm seeing only girls who are cute enough but nothing too exciting.
I need someone who's almost painful to look at because she's so beautiful.
[QUOTE=Evianist]Angel Witch Baccara Dollhouse[/QUOTE]
So you went to one place in Nana and 2 in Soi Cowboy? Is that right?
At Nana, Rainbow bars have the rep for best lookers (for this type of venue at least) -- when I was there last over a year ago, it was Rainbow 4 on the middle level, but I've heard these days Rainbow 2 has taken the lead.
I guess some here would say that the gentleman clubs and coyote bars are the ones with the hottest girls, and I guess they're not as accessible or affordable of course as in the go-gos. I haven't tried those types of venues so am not the person to ask.
For FL, there's some places that get more expensive and generally hotter ones than elsewhere (thinking of Spasso and places like that.. .again, need to ask the expats here who know better)
But you know, the ones who are so gorgeous it hurts, well, one like that tends to have the same effect on all men, and so rarely end up in the kinds of places we go. One reason they would have that effect on you is that they're rare specimens. Being rare, they're hard to find.
[QUOTE=Wendella]So you went to one place in Nana and 2 in Soi Cowboy? Is that right?[/quote]
Actually I'm in Pattaya. There just happen to be several of the same clubs here as in Bangkok
[quote]But you know, the ones who are so gorgeous it hurts, well, one like that tends to have the same effect on all men, and so rarely end up in the kinds of places we go. One reason they would have that effect on you is that they're rare specimens. Being rare, they're hard to find.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm getting really sick of 6s and 7s.
Baccara in Pattaya? Must be new? I do not remember seeing a club with that name in Pattaya.
Pretty girls are rare in Thailand, imho. But, one who likes tiny girls can have fun there. One who prefer leggy and curvy girls will not have the best time in Pattaya, imho.
I usually find some from that type in the FL spots, like Insomnia, MixX, Walking Street Club, etc. But, all in all I am not impressed with the beauty of Thai girls. The reason why I nevertheless like to spend my holliday's in Thailand is, that LOS has still the best package.
Regarding GoGo's it's difficult to give a advice, since quality of girls will change quite often. On season the one bar has one or a few good looking girls, the other season another bar. So, best is you just have a look in every bar.
[QUOTE=DG69]Baccara in Pattaya? Must be new? I do not remember seeing a club with that name in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
Same owner as Peppermint and Happy and another bar.... You come walking out the side soi that Happy is on and you just about run into it on Walking street.
Same set up as in BKK with glass and can look up on second floor but they have a pole where the girls can slide down from the second to the first floor. Is new just opened in Dec I think... so it is clean and set up kind of nice.
Girls are NOT better they just moved from Peppermint over and and added a few new girls. But less loud and crowded then Peppermint was. Too many Senior Citizens running into Peppermint to buy ladies drink upon drink and such...
Baccara in pat's was less crowded and more friendly as it was a new club and LARGER then most / many clubs so more space. But pricing is same, I just don't see how some ugly girls at like DollHouse and others think they are worth the barfine plus their fee...
I guess some guys are just blind dumb and stupid....
Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. Apologies in advance if I upset anyone here but I'd like to point out some of my observations on Pattaya:
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists
4. Way too many beer bars or maybe just quiet right now but the average bar girl is just that...pretty average
5. Beach Road...God what a bunch of old hags but ocassional treat, tried a couple but was very disappointed
6. However all the above was mitigated by a girl I met on my last night just as I was really abandoning all hope. Walking down Beach Road I started chatting to a reasonable looking girl...not young but not old (29 I found out), always ask how long she has been in Pattaya (so as to determine attitude, ie the shorter the better) turns out 1 month and she hated the place. Then I ask about family, where from etc (to determine motivation). Seems she has a daughter back home in Isaan somewhere that she is devoted to and is only doing it for her, calls back every night, wants to earn enough to support her etc...seemed reasonable enough plus she was not in your face like many a Thai but rather a shy, introverted type which I thought must be at odds with her chosen way to earn a wage.
Anyway I ask her how much and she didnt really seem to know so I took her back to my hotel, would decide later whether long or short time. After she relaxed she just wouldn't let me sleep, was permanently wet and well really made up for the fact I was in such a shitty town. We had breakfast together, said our goodbyes and I got a taxi to the airport and am now elsewhere in Asia and happy to be away from Pattaya...what a dump.
[QUOTE=Bloke]Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. Apologies in advance if I upset anyone here but I'd like to point out some of my observations on Pattaya:
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters. Or worse. God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists
4. Way too many beer bars or maybe just quiet right now but the average bar girl is just that. Pretty average
5. Beach Road. God what a bunch of old hags but ocassional treat, tried a couple but was very disappointed
6. However all the above was mitigated by a girl I met on my last night just as I was really abandoning all hope. Walking down Beach Road I started chatting to a reasonable looking girl. Not young but not old (29 I found out), always ask how long she has been in Pattaya (so as to determine attitude, ie the shorter the better) turns out 1 month and she hated the place. Then I ask about family, where from etc (to determine motivation). Seems she has a daughter back home in Isaan somewhere that she is devoted to and is only doing it for her, calls back every night, wants to earn enough to support her etc. Seemed reasonable enough plus she was not in your face like many a Thai but rather a shy, introverted type which I thought must be at odds with her chosen way to earn a wage.
Anyway I ask her how much and she didn't really seem to know so I took her back to my hotel, would decide later whether long or short time. After she relaxed she just wouldn't let me sleep, was permanently wet and well really made up for the fact I was in such a shitty town. We had breakfast together, said our goodbyes and I got a taxi to the airport and am now elsewhere in Asia and happy to be away from Pattaya. What a dump.[/QUOTE]Yes shit happens.
You love the place or you hate it, but there's nothing inbetween
[QUOTE=Bloke]J
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
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Funny how guys come from such a long distance for girls only to notice men.
[QUOTE=Bloke]Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. Apologies in advance if I upset anyone here but I'd like to point out some of my observations on Pattaya:
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists
4. Way too many beer bars or maybe just quiet right now but the average bar girl is just that...pretty average
5. Beach Road...God what a bunch of old hags but ocassional treat, tried a couple but was very disappointed
6. However all the above was mitigated by a girl I met on my last night just as I was really abandoning all hope. Walking down Beach Road I started chatting to a reasonable looking girl...not young but not old (29 I found out), always ask how long she has been in Pattaya (so as to determine attitude, ie the shorter the better) turns out 1 month and she hated the place. Then I ask about family, where from etc (to determine motivation). Seems she has a daughter back home in Isaan somewhere that she is devoted to and is only doing it for her, calls back every night, wants to earn enough to support her etc...seemed reasonable enough plus she was not in your face like many a Thai but rather a shy, introverted type which I thought must be at odds with her chosen way to earn a wage.
Anyway I ask her how much and she didnt really seem to know so I took her back to my hotel, would decide later whether long or short time. After she relaxed she just wouldn't let me sleep, was permanently wet and well really made up for the fact I was in such a shitty town. We had breakfast together, said our goodbyes and I got a taxi to the airport and am now elsewhere in Asia and happy to be away from Pattaya...what a dump.[/QUOTE]
I certainly agree with points 1, 2, 3. I especially hate the attitude of many falling who inhabit Pattaya. I encounter them on their visa runs elsewhere in SE Asia. I stay away from Walking St. and all the usual bullshit that goes with it. In Pattaya I either go stay with friends or in a GH in Jomtien.
But I find that the Beach Road scenario is wonderful. I don't go there too late and I always make sure that I avoid the haggard, inebriated or weird types. If I spot someone that seems nice, I usually stop and sit with the girl and check her out by asking polite questions, as if I am chatting her up. I can do this without commitment. If it turns out that there is something about the woman that I don't like, I make charming excuses like "you are so nice but tonight I have no power." By taking my time and waiting until I find a good one, I have never had a bad experience back in my room with a girl from Beach Road. Now that the economy is not great, there are even factory girls to be found there. Treat them with respect and be nice and you will have a great or the closest thing to a GFE that you will ever have. I have even taken a few on as temporary girlfriends for a few days - something I never do with professionals in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Bloke]1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros[/quote]
This is true, and I find it depressing seeing them sitting at the bars every day with a beer, but they're all over thailand, so I don't know why you're citing it as evidence against Pattaya specifically.
[quote]2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists[/quote]
This hasn't bothered me. The Russians are worse if only for their sheer numbers and the fact that even many signs are in russian.
[quote]4. Way too many beer bars or maybe just quiet right now but the average bar girl is just that...pretty average[/quote]
Haven't seen any yet with a girl who made me want to sit down.
[QUOTE=Bloke]Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. Apologies in advance if I upset anyone here but I'd like to point out some of my observations on Pattaya:
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters. Or worse. God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
Exactly how I described it in my book:
Groups of girls, young and old, pretty and not so pretty, were loitering. One did say 'I go with you. ' I didn't.
Groups of tourists were also hanging about and, some were sitting on a small wall that ran along the Beach Road separating, the actual beach, from the pavement. Many of these tourists looked decidedly disheveled. Greasy hair, unshaven, clothes looking like they had not been washed in days and, drinking from bottles of beer. They reminded me of the days gone by when I used to take the underground trains in London. Vagrants, would always hang around in the under ground walkways, sheltering and collecting change from the busy commuters who would all be rushing to their next destinations. These couldn't be the same guys could they? Did they really collect enough change to afford holidays in Thailand? I moved swiftly on as one of the loitering older, not so pretty girls, moved in on one of the vagrant tourists. I just about over heard her opening lines 'you handsome man. I like you. I go with you'.
[QUOTE=Bloke]1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros[/QUOTE]
Let us hope that Bloke never has to face old age, or that when he does, the youth of that day are less arrogant and more sympathetic than he.
To my elders in Pattaya, however 'scruffy' - I salute you for making the best of that inevitable decline we will all face (if we're lucky).