Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Prosal]Living like a lower-middle class local sucks ass IMO. And especially for a gringo. Most(all?) brasilians DON'T want to live like that. They want to have a nice car, travel abroad, dress fancy, go out at "in" places, flash cash, ect.

Of course as usual to each its own. You can live freely your "third world fantasies" (honestly, that is the feeling that gives your post), who am I to judge?[/QUOTE]

Someone once said that the happiest person is not the one that has more, but the one that needs less.

I sincerely admire Hughdad for the way he lives. And for his interest in experiencing a different culture. Firsthand.

And I pity Prosal for his lack of understanding.

[QUOTE=Jota Erre]And I pity Prosal for his lack of understanding.[/QUOTE]
Once more, you know very few about brasilian people obviously. Nonetheless, you've admitted that you know this country only through your imported black favelada wife, so indeed nobody can blame you about your ignorance.

Brasilian lower and lowermiddle class people aspirations are nothing but very normal for emerging countries populations.Yes they want to improve their status and partake what they see on MTV or TV Globo. Of course they do !! And so what's wrong with that ?.... Your silly remark about people that "need less and are happy with that" sounds to me at best like ecologist integrism BS, and otherwise as pure stupidity. In any cases an obvious unawareness of emerging countries people s psyche, aspirations and needs.

[QUOTE=Prosal]Living like a lower-middle class local sucks ass IMO. And especially for a gringo. Most(all?) brasilians DON'T want to live like that. They want to have a nice car, travel abroad, dress fancy and buy status accessories, go out at "in" places (incl. for the male population in high-priced brothels), flash cash, ect.

Of course as usual to each its own. You can live freely your "third world fantasies" (honestly, that is the feeling that gives your post). Who am I to judge?[/QUOTE]

What is this about? The fact is that when one lives in Brasil he'll find life a lot cheaper than what tourists do.

I do not know about lower-middle class, but majority that I know wouldn't be flashing their money. That shit goes on with assholes who live areas like Barra da Tijuca, Recreio and not to mention Zona Sul lowlifes.

I live in middle class neighbourhood, have a house with all that I can imagine I need. I have my own space, freedom and peace. No favelas anywhere near, no baile funk, samba, forro, axe or any other bullshit.

I do not know where Hughdad lives, but I'm sure that if he lives here 6 months a year and has himself integrated to the society he doesn't need to go to thermases or *****houses.

Not everyone in Brasil do that, actually its smaller number of men that we usually think.

[QUOTE=Perkele]That shit goes on with assholes who live areas like Barra da Tijuca, Recreio and not to mention Zona Sul lowlifes.[/QUOTE]
No need to be angry and vindictive towards people who have a life more comfortable than yours.

[QUOTE=Prosal]No need to be angry towards people who have a better life than yours.[/QUOTE]

Who said that they have better life than me?

I could live any of those neighbourhoods, but its my choise not to.

Funny how you who visit 1 - X times per year Brasil are such experts on the day per day matters.

I would like to have your insight on some matters here. Let's begin with vehicle licensing. Please let me know how can I license a vehicle that is being alienated by a financing bank? I'm really having some problems with this issue.

[QUOTE=Thong Diva] /...

Let's put this to bed and wait and see if anyone else complains about thefts in Rio. All I can say is that the management better make a trip to a German FKK. They could learn a lot about safety and security, not to mention learn how to run a business....[/QUOTE]

As any lawyer knows, the defense deserves to be heard. First let me say that I have no interest in this except curiosity and safety. I just couldn't make my peace with these accusations so I decided to ask L'uomo if this happened and what was their response.

My Portuguese is not very good, but basically, their story is that this gringo came in and ran up a big bill and on the way out said he had had R300 stolen out of his locker but he would keep it quiet if they gave him R100 discount. Otherwise, he would put it out on the internet.

Actually, this sounds much more likely than the story that has been told here. I am a jury of only one, but I go with the L'uomo version.

In puzzling through all of this -- and this is not meant as anything other than information for fellow explorers -- I thought it would be good to mention that messing around with these sorts of things in termas is a bad idea. Of course, they have security, but one thing you may not be aware of is that these places are frequented by police officers -- policia militaire, bope, you name it. Some places even give them free entrance. For whatever it is worth.

Now, Thong Diva, you can continue your campaign, and maybe it really did happen to you, but, it seems to me you tried to jack them up. But, if you are a good lawyer, you will realize that the most believable story is not yours.

[QUOTE=Prosal]Your pissing contest silly reply isn't even worthy of comment.

But ok. So, according to you, people who, as you say, live in areas like Barra da Tijuca or Recreio (and not to mention Zona Sul of course!) are lowlifes assholes ?. Well, I leave you with your anger and your resentment. You maybe live in Brasil, but you're obviously a sad, angry and malevolent character. No wonder why you spend your time on internet rather than with meninas. Bye.[/QUOTE]

Naw.
I just do not like to pay for a product that is freely available.

Thanks for your excellent advice.

[QUOTE=Prosal]Living like a lower-middle class local sucks ass IMO. And especially for a gringo. Most(all?) brasilians DON'T want to live like that. They want to have a nice car, travel abroad, dress fancy and buy status accessories, go out at "in" places (incl. for the male population, in high-priced brothels), flash cash, ect.

Of course as usual to each its own. You can live freely your "third world fantasies" (honestly, that is the feeling that gives your post). Who am I to judge?[/QUOTE](I know this is the wrong thread for all this and I started it with a few additional comments in a post but allow me to finish it and get it off this forum. My apologies.)

Because I said I live inexpensively here you say I am lower-middle class here? I was simply replying to everyone talking about how expensive things can be here.

I have everything I need to leave in comfort and in the class I want. I was fortunate to have someone approach me 9 years ago about buying some places in Brazil. When he could not repay my loans I ended up with a house and a condo in a nice town of several hundred thousand people. I rented these out for awhile and took possession of the home a few years back, made some upgrades and brought down all the comforts for the US. (The contents of the home I sold in the US at the height of the real estate market. I saw that mess coming and sold and rented a small place for a few years.)

I have a new car here, a steady lady (with friends) and a separate building on my property which is the base of my businesses. I entertain often and my friends love hanging on my US furniture, not that cheap hard Brazil crap. I have great cable, internet and satellite service and a killer music, DVD and video game collection (more for my guests.) I have a bar with a stripper pole, a karaoke machine, and I am learning to play guitar.

I take buses because it is convenient to get into the major cities that way. I can get on a cheap overnight bus and sleep and wake up in Rio tomorrow. Or I can fly. I can be in SP in several hours.

I travel abroad all the time on business (here half the year approx.) I dress casually in my nice US wardrobe (left the suit and tie world behind). I have zero use "flashing cash and fancy accesssories". That's macho bullshit for guys with small dicks.

I buy my fruits and veggies at a farmer's market because they are the freshest you can find anywhere. They happen to also be dirt cheap. I also have a bakery I walk to at 6 am every morning for over fresh bread. There are also some great restaurants in town and I am actually partnering on a new one. A concept I came up with that (if it goes well) will be franchised. I don't smoke and occassionally drink beer. I drink good wine from my collection with most dinners. And I have free sex every morning and night (and some nooners) of the week (one or twice a week with more than one lady at a time). My lady is a beautiful young mulata sweetheart with a ever present and wide bright smile, a laugh that is contagious, beautiful round firm breasts and a cute bubble butt you can bounce a quarter off of. She is also smart and only about half as crazy as most Brazilian women (lol).

If this is a life that sucks....I love living the sucky life. Go flash your cash and fancy status accessories in the hot spots while you hold your needle dick.

(Again my apologies for starting this conversation in the wrong thread.)

[QUOTE=Perkele]Where did you get this?

Prostitution is completely legal in Brasil.

You should know if you live here.[/QUOTE]I was referring to the fact that it is illegal to promote prostitution and he was in a termas and there are questions as to their legality. My shorthand point wasn't well stated for sure. Apologies.

[quote=prosal]living like a lower-middle class local sucks ass imo. and especially for a gringo. most(all?) brasilians don't want to live like that. they want to have a nice car, travel abroad, dress fancy and buy status accessories, go out at "in" places (incl. for the male population, in high-priced brothels), flash cash, ect.

of course as usual to each its own. you can live freely your "third world fantasies" (honestly, that is the feeling that gives your post). who am i to judge?[/quote]prosal

absolute twaddle.

not all (thank god) see the world from your shallow perspective. most of the wealthy brazilians that you meet in the high end brothels, are some of the most obnoxious, miserable, mau educado "bar stewards" on the planet. i would imagine that most of the people from their own peer pressure group think the same.

was going to write more but would be a waste of time.

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Now, Thong Diva, you can continue your campaign, and maybe it really did happen to you, but, it seems to me you tried to jack them up. But, if you are a good lawyer, you will realize that the most believable story is not yours.[/QUOTE]
There might be an easy explanation as to where the money went. Were there any other American lawyers in the locker room that day?

In terms of trustworthiness -- locker room attendants at L'uomo vs. American lawyers. Not even close.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]There might be an easy explanation as to where the money went. Were there any other American lawyers in the locker room that day?

In terms of trustworthiness -- locker room attendants at L'uomo vs. American lawyers. Not even close.[/QUOTE]Bwahaahaahaaaa! Well said indeed!

BS,

I have been trying to send you a PM but it says your inbox is full. Is there another way I can reach you?

[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]if it is a true independent web site, then they don't get involved at all in pricing issues, in order to remain totally legal.

They just provide an advertising service

Some of the girls are massage parlor workers, usually if they have incall[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thong Diva]Fred: I don't know you. But I like your way of thinking. OK, I'll buy that maybe a fellow monger ripped me off. I'm a lawyer, so I think like a lawyer. .[/QUOTE]You were definitely up for a bashing when you fessed up to being a Lawyer.

Joke:

All the kids in the class had to stand up and give a brief description of what their dad did for a living.

Little sally stands up and says my daddy's builds peoples houses.

Little Billy stands up and says my daddy's a doctor and makes people better.

Little Johnnie stands up and says my daddy takes his clothes off in a gay bar at night and if the money is right he will have sex in the ally behind the bar.

The teacher gets into a flap and dismisses all the other kids. Says to Little Johnnie, Is this true what you said about you father.

Johnnie says no he is a lawyer, I was just too ashamed to say in front of the other kids.

Sorry about that. I expect you have heard them all.

[QUOTE=Hughdad]. I go to the fresh outdoor farmers market every Wed and Sat morning and I spend about R$15 each time for fruits and veggies. I have a great butcher that slaughters his own livestock and I have a good (not great) fish monger.
[/QUOTE]Everybody shops for fresh produce, meats, fish, etc. this way. You'd be crazy not to. Our maid and cook would do this for us. But, I'd go on Sunday mornings regularly for the fresh cana and pastels. Whoever said this is a 'lower class existence' is an imbecile or misanthrope who doesn't understand Brazil. It's a friendly, fun and social thing to do.