Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok

Hi Giotto,

I just read your detailed massage parlor report.

Unfortunately it was written in 2007.

Are there any updates (that I have not found)?

If not, WHERE do I find any reliable updates to get me ready for my BKK-visit in October?

Thanks,

Alex

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1298047]If I may?

But IMHO your recent attempts at reviving the thread is going down like a damp squid.

Think what you used to post up; soulful, interesting, informative snippets and useful How-to instructions especially for those not quite so familiar with LOS. Not all this diatribe and jibing and throwing nonsense insults at each other.

Boring, childish and will certainly just give the impression that the Lodge is primarily for a bunch of frat boys up to frat boy shenanigans.

Too much hanging around the empty swimming pool, just contemplating where has all the tourists gone perhaps?

SEAN. Hey, am really just trying to help out / definitely NOT trying to just stir your ire up. But please feel free to ignore if you think inappropriate.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,

Got your message, but let us not take things too seriously.

We will have a mix of background information, childish jokes, chit-chat, fun stories and whatever the readers like to read / post. For serious mongering information we have the threads in the Thailand forum, where all the specialists are adding their knowledge. This are the threads that lost the majority of their readers in the past few years, because the best writers were "retired" but the idiots survived.

The "Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok" forum will NOT be too serious, it will allow "Boring, childish" posts and "throwing nonsense insults at each other", within certain limitations. And then stories will pop up. You can find the first newbie story below already.

Livingstone's Lodge shall be a relaxing fun place, where certain background information regarding the "purpose of this forum" is available. If we want to do serious marketing for the hotel we will NOT do that here. For that other websites like Agoda, TripAdvisor, FlyerTalk etc. Etc. Are available. Here, in this forum. We take things easy.

Giotto[/QUOTE]Hmmmmm!

A hive of activity here. Somebody remember to turn off the lights after all the kids finished name-calling and playing here will ya!

LMAO!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1302936]Thank you very much for staying here at Livingstone's Lodge. It was a pleasure to have you with us.

Come back soon!

Giotto.

[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Is Livingstone Lodge something similar to Black Beard Resort in Dominican Republic, where girls sit around the bar and the pool and are available virtually all day long? How many girls are typically around and is it noisy party hotel?

Never been to Thailand but I am thinking to hit it around Thanksgiving. I am thinking of spending time in BKK, Phuket (beaches) and couple days to see Pattaya. Would anybody have any suggestion to this itinerary?

Thanks.

H

[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1313753]Is Livingstone Lodge something similar to Black Beard Resort in Dominican Republic, where girls sit around the bar and the pool and are available virtually all day long? How many girls are typically around and is it noisy party hotel? Thanks.H[/QUOTE]No, this would be a wrong picture. I don't think anything like this is available in whole Asia. Not even in the Penthouse Hotel in Pattaya, this being a clearly mongering hotel.

LL is a quiet place in the heart of BKK, fully GF but very discrete. Lots might happen but it is all behind the doors of the rooms.

You will not get much signs at breakfasts, like you see in some places, with guests with local "nieces"'having breakfast together. Mainly because breakfast is nearly all day long so, so spreaded around, LOL. Still, breakfast has a Thai menu. Indications many Thai (girls) have breakfast there, but you don't see them checking in with the hotel guest when he arrives, so figure out how this happens.

There is a inhouse sports bar, and as any bar of that kind in Thailand, there are hostesses not letting you feeling alone, in case you are. Somebody got to eat those Thai breakfasts, right? It doesn't all come for cheap, maybe this represents a natural selection of the guests.

PS by the way, I think that Black Beard (in Haiti, not in Dominican Republic, being also the island hosting both called Hispaniola) is past history....gone with the wind.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1313764]There is a inhouse sports bar, and has any bar of that kind in Thailand, there are hostesses not letting you feeling alone, in case you are. Somebody got to eat those Thai breakfasts, right? It doesn't all come for cheap, maybe this represents a natural selection of the guests.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply and clarification.

So hostesses of LL sports bar are available to make you company and you can bring yourself company.

How easy is to find p4p company in BKK other then bar girls, I read about, where you pay bar fee? Is LL bar similar type with bar fee?

I like FKKs in Germany and I like relaxed environment where you can make small talk with girls to see if there is some chemistry. I do not like to pick girls based on looks only, I did not like Macau saunas for that reason, you have no interaction with girl except to look into them. How is in Thailand?

H

[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1313774]Thanks for the reply and clarification.

So hostesses of LL sports bar are available to make you company and you can bring yourself company.

How easy is to find p4p company in BKK other then bar girls, I read about, where you pay bar fee? Is LL bar similar type with bar fee?

I like FKKs in Germany and I like relaxed environment where you can make small talk with girls to see if there is some chemistry. I do not like to pick girls based on looks only, I did not like Macau saunas for that reason, you have no interaction with girl except to look into them. How is in Thailand?

H[/QUOTE]Of course if you find a girl there that suits you, why not? The advantage of taking inhouse girls is that there is no bad surprises in terms of whom you bring in your room. Same is also if you take from known bars, as the girls are known there. I don't want to scare you as it is not the case, but sometime taking a stranger girl, mainly FL's, be her for ST or LT might result in unexpected troubles. Not the rule, mind you, but it happens. If you are a first comer go for the safe route, till you get familiar with the environment and learn how to read through the lines. Lots of FL give good performances in all terms, so rules are not engraved in stone, but available for reading.

Nobody being a GF hotel you can bring in a take away from elsewhere and they will not object. Rooms are always booked for two occupants, and the beds, being thai girls often tiny, can take, well, a good party on. Again, Mind you, Thai girls not over enthusiasts of 3-somes, so even if you take two back home, one might take looooong showers whilst you enjoy the other one, get it? YMMV.

Walk from Soi 33 to Soi 4, it is a good 20-30' walk, don't do it under the hitting sun, and as much as you approach the so called low sukhumvit you will see the scene, venture in the side soil, see the bars, the MP', RTFF to learn about the oilies. Soap massages, spot the FL on the street, enjoy food of any kind at Gulliver and you will not miss some glances at you. Or take after dinner drinks at Bangkok Beat.

I know, pretty much obvious destinations for guys with lot of mileage in BKK, but ideal to plunge in for a newcomer.

Browse one evening in Soi cowboy, one in nana plaza, and their go-go bars and girls, spend time in the terrace bars nearby Nana Plaza and nana parking, and you will learn how things happen. You will also recognise the LB from where you can stay away if that is not your scene (LOL, there are quite some, there must be a demand!).

Bar fines are paid to the bar, as the name suggests, and is a way to reimburse the bar for the girl being away and not working (and not generating drink incomes through the customers they stay with at the table).

Prices vary, some places can be steep, each one its own and it is up to the individual to chose to pay it or abort the night of passion with the girl. FL don't have BF of course, rarely go ST, and are cheaper in general. BF is the same whether you take the girl ST or LT.

I would stay away from the places offering shows as ping pong balls etc. Overexpensive circus act, but each one his own.

Always think first with big head and not with small head.

Make sure you don't wear beer goggles when selecting the girl.

Don't decide to "marry" for the whole period of your stay the first LT girl you meet. She might be a diamond, but you are going to neglect yourself all the discoveries in the following days. And you will come back with just ONE report here, and unaware of the big potential BKK has to offer.

Hope You have some basic guidelines here.

Would there be any chance of an update on the current levels of barfines / ladies' fees at Livingstone's Lodge?

Details were published on the forum once, but a long time ago now.

Bionicman,

Thanks for the great info.

When I get there I will be starving and will need a lot of pops first several days. Then after that few per day is fine. I prefer ST so I plan to hit MPs and Oilies that are well described here. Annie's I heard is a must visit. I never tried GF so it may be fun to try for few days.

What are the prices in BKK these days? How much does it cost bar lady from Livingston Lodge for ST (1-2 hours)? How about from other places and FL?

I plan to spend about 1 week in BKK and 1 week in Phuket for some beach, vacation and fun. I am not sure if Pattaya is worth spending few days at the expense of the other 2 locations. Pattaya looks to me like too much of mongering and only mongering. I am thinking to take a day trip just to see it. What is your opinion, is BKK and Phuket plenty for 2 weeks in Thailand? What else is worth visiting like Phuket to be good vacation destination but that there is plenty of fun available, too?

H

[QUOTE=Hedonian;1314062]Bionicman, Thanks for the great infoH[/QUOTE]I don't think the inhouse ladies are meant for ST, but of course I think you can discuss the matter. I once took one kind of "forcely" ST as she could not stay over 3am and I picked her up after midnight. This was clear at negotiation time.

Then each one his own. This is why it is hard (no pun intended) to suggest one place rather than another one.

Oilies are probably more suitable for draining the plumbings, you might also take in account a couple of BJ bars, for instance.

It is all in ISG, do some homework and you will get the idea of the average prices and fees. And if and when a tip (a real tip) is needed.

I have never been to Pattaya but I share the same opinion: worth for 24hrs meet and greet, unless one is really in a mission.

[QUOTE=Travel2; 1313592]Hi Giotto,

I just read your detailed massage parlor report.

Unfortunately it was written in 2007.

Are there any updates (that I have not found)?

If not, WHERE do I find any reliable updates to get me ready for my BKK-visit in October?

Thanks,

Alex[/QUOTE]Travel2,

Sadly no more update after 2007. I am much too old for all that. .

Updates are available in the massage parlor threads in the main Thailand forum. Read the reports from Syzygies and NicFrenchy.



Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1314915]Travel2, Sadly no more update after 2007. I am much too old for all that. Updates are available in the massage parlor threads in the main Thailand forum. Read the reports from Syzygies and NicFrenchy. Giotto.

[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey bro', can you share contacts? LMAO!

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1315064]Hey bro', can you share contacts? LMAO![/QUOTE]LOL.

Can!


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

Hi Giotto,

Your not too old I am too old. I guess I will have to my dead ass back there and wake you up!

I guess married life with your beautiful woman could keep you "occupied". Or tied up?

Try to be there in Aug or Sept.

Bestard!

Oldload

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1314915]Travel2,

Sadly no more update after 2007. I am much too old for all that. .

Updates are available in the massage parlor threads in the main Thailand forum. Read the reports from Syzygies and NicFrenchy.

Giotto.

[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldLoad; 1316908]Hi Giotto,

Your not too old I am too old. I guess I will have to my dead ass back there and wake you up!

I guess married life with your beautiful woman could keep you "occupied". Or tied up?

Try to be there in Aug or Sept.

Bestard!

Oldload[/QUOTE]OldLoad,

Spot on!

I could write a new version of scientific MP analysis. But I would hardly survive it. My wife reads the forum, and whenever I write something there are one or two local Bangkok expats who love to discuss with her what I wrote. For what reasons ever.

This is how it is, so I am a bit restricted in my options. And I know, that I have to explain the picturesque phrases and writing style of this report soon.

And of course - my beautiful wife is demanding, and I am that old. LOL.

Get back over here, it's too empty! We need some more customers for some more fun!


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Giotto;1317022]My wife reads the forum, and whenever I write something there are one or two local Bangkok expats who love to discuss with her what I wrote. For what reasons ever.[/QUOTE]The reason is that they are some Shitheads. I can't imagine how stupid or Moronic a person could be to do that. Tell us the names of these Assholes.