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It seems that Marcya Villar is back in business, but didn't reactivate her ad. She changed her WhatsApp profile photo and has an online sign on.

[QUOTE=IanMoone;2724837]It seems that Marcya Villar is back in business, but didn't reactivate her ad. She changed her WhatsApp profile photo and has an online sign on.[/QUOTE]That is typical for a lady of her caliber She probably told the clients she likes she is working again directly. Ladies like her only advertise and "open the books" when their preferred clients don't keep them busy enough.

Is Portugal based on this one Escort agency (Escort Privado / Apartadox), so that if it would dissipate suddenly, the traveller would be left with desperate measures to find equal company for his leisure?

I read this and Barcelona's threads, and it seems that girls of this quality are 200 euros in Barcelona. But there are also multiple agencies operating.

So far I haven't understood more from the Lissabon scene that this EP is the thing. Do locals have a site they contact and book amateur / semi-pro girls from? Like in Spain.

[QUOTE=Desin;2725173]Is Portugal based on this one Escort agency (Escort Privado / Apartadox), so that if it would dissipate suddenly, the traveller would be left with desperate measures to find equal company for his leisure?

I read this and Barcelona's threads, and it seems that girls of this quality are 200 euros in Barcelona. But there are also multiple agencies operating.

So far I haven't understood more from the Lissabon scene that this EP is the thing. Do locals have a site they contact and book amateur / semi-pro girls from? Like in Spain.[/QUOTE]Apartadox is an advertising site that is separate from Escort Privada. EP ladies use it for advertising just like independents do.

There is zero reason to believe either Escort Privada or Apartadox would suddenly go down, but if you don't use EP, here are among the many Lisbon independents with good reviews. Not saying every review is great, but they all have at least some outstanding reviews. They are in no particular order.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Patricia-Navarro-3827.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Eloa-Sanchez-6532.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Ella-Secret-6513.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Valentina-Sartori-4294.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eller-Rocha-4428.html[/URL]

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/sara-4/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL]

Every legal age, race and body style is included in that list. I think they are all BBBJ, in addition of course to offering covered full service.

And Lisbon has a well-known massage parlor where full service is available by asking for the Relaxing Massage.

[URL]https://sensualcare.pt/[/URL]

Far from it. EP is the main outcall agency, but there are several independents who specialize in outcall service, many more incall ladies who are willing to do outcall and charge a fair price, and a substantial incall scene.

[QUOTE=Desin;2725173]Is Portugal based on this one Escort agency (Escort Privado / Apartadox), so that if it would dissipate suddenly, the traveller would be left with desperate measures to find equal company for his leisure?

I read this and Barcelona's threads, and it seems that girls of this quality are 200 euros in Barcelona. But there are also multiple agencies operating.

So far I haven't understood more from the Lissabon scene that this EP is the thing. Do locals have a site they contact and book amateur / semi-pro girls from? Like in Spain.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Desin;2725173]Is Portugal based on this one Escort agency (Escort Privado / Apartadox), so that if it would dissipate suddenly, the traveller would be left with desperate measures to find equal company for his leisure?

I read this and Barcelona's threads, and it seems that girls of this quality are 200 euros in Barcelona. But there are also multiple agencies operating.

So far I haven't understood more from the Lissabon scene that this EP is the thing. Do locals have a site they contact and book amateur / semi-pro girls from? Like in Spain.[/QUOTE]I am always completely confused as to what a semi-pro girl is, or at least what people think it is.

All, or the vast majority, of EP escorts either go to college or have "other" jobs besides escorting. Some actually arrive for outcall directly from those other jobs, such as retail or hospitality / restaurant, according to many reviews. And many of the younger ladies juggle escorting between classes.

I suspect the same is true for most independents.

And the Lisbon Seeking Arrangement reports have been favorable.

Can you tell us what you mean by a semi-pro.

I agree, it's a bit of a tricky term, since neither have I heard a definition of it.

I would consider an amateur to be a girl who is "trying out" paid arrangements, or who is ready to accept it every now and then. After she has done the deed enough not to turn back from it, but instead of taking it as her more or less regular way of earning extra cash and she has done this for enough time, I would consider her a semi-pro. She perhaps enjoys sex so much that she can enjoy it with even new clients, or at least the regular ones. She maybe has a solid base of regulars, or advertises whenever she needs to resupply them. But she also has something real going on her live as well, she is studying for a profession or has one already. She is not totally dependent on the deed. But, to keep on her current level of spending, she has to earn money by this way. Also, I would suppose that the customer, if he is well-experienced, would make a mental note of differentiation between an amateur and semi-pro. That one would notice from the way she acts that this person knows what she is doing and is fine with it. Preferrably even good in it, if not at least average.

And a semi-pro can be differentiated from the pro also by that gut feeling you get, when one thinks that "I don't want to associate with a pro. It just doesn't have it. " A semi-pro might still have it, if she ever had.

[QUOTE=Desin;2725494]I agree, it's a bit of a tricky term, since neither have I heard a definition of it.

I would consider an amateur to be a girl who is "trying out" paid arrangements, or who is ready to accept it every now and then. After she has done the deed enough not to turn back from it, but instead of taking it as her more or less regular way of earning extra cash and she has done this for enough time, I would consider her a semi-pro. She perhaps enjoys sex so much that she can enjoy it with even new clients, or at least the regular ones. She maybe has a solid base of regulars, or advertises whenever she needs to resupply them. But she also has something real going on her live as well, she is studying for a profession or has one already. She is not totally dependent on the deed. But, to keep on her current level of spending, she has to earn money by this way. Also, I would suppose that the customer, if he is well-experienced, would make a mental note of differentiation between an amateur and semi-pro. That one would notice from the way she acts that this person knows what she is doing and is fine with it. Preferrably even good in it, if not at least average.

And a semi-pro can be differentiated from the pro also by that gut feeling you get, when one thinks that "I don't want to associate with a pro. It just doesn't have it. " A semi-pro might still have it, if she ever had.[/QUOTE]I think every lady at EP and most, if not all, of the independents on Apartadox meets your definition of a semi-pro. As do most independent escorts in Portugal and Spain who charge a relatively premium price.

The concept you are describing is a Third World situation, and Iberia is not Third World. It is perhaps why Barcelona Vice is so aggressive on shutting down Asian massage parlors, which also don't exist to any significant extent in Portugal.

There is indeed a big difference between seeing a dirt poor lady who has never had educational or vocational opportunities outside of sex work, which is indeed often a sad experience. A customer certainly gets more enjoyment from seeing a lady who is the opposite of that, which is why so many on the Seeking Arrangement thread talk about the S. A. Ladies they see in Third World countries not being "hookers". The point I always try to make is that most independent and upper-end agency escorts in the First World have always been the same as the S. A. Ladies. Hell, if you want to go to dinner with any of the recommended Lisbon ladies, just make sure she speaks enough of the same language that you do, and pay her for the time you buy. I think it is the same experience in the First World as doing Seeking Arrangement, with less chance of getting a dud. But that is just my opinion.

Bottom line is that Portugal is a First World country, and you just can't apply Third World concepts to it.

Hey, I've heard about some club called as "Heaven Can Wait" - can someone share their experience from such clubs? I do not have any idea about what's the idea of these clubs, and I don't know what to expect. What are they?

Any review on Tita Ipanema:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/tita-ipanema/[/URL]

And Vanessa Prado:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/call-girl-Vanessa-Prado-6898.html[/URL]

Thanks!

[QUOTE=ManInWhite;2727538]Any review on Tita Ipanema:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/tita-ipanema/[/URL]

And Vanessa Prado:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/call-girl-Vanessa-Prado-6898.html[/URL]

Thanks![/QUOTE]Vanessa Prado's ad is brand new. I don't see any local review board activity yet under that name or phone number.

Tita Ipenema doesn't have any reviews despite being with EP for quite some time. Her profile lists Oral Without, which hopefully is the case. For greater certainly of BBBJ, it is better to pick a lady who either has CIM in her profile, or is reviewed as doing BBBJ. Several posts below contain a list of recommended EP ladies, all of whom do BBBJ. While we all appreciate you taking one for the team, if choosing an EP lady, I would recommend that you choose from the list.

For instance Maria Conceicao has a very similar profile picture as Tita, more service offerings, and most importantly a lot of positive reviews.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2725501]I think every lady at EP and most, if not all, of the independents on Apartadox meets your definition of a semi-pro. As do most independent escorts in Portugal and Spain who charge a relatively premium price.

The concept you are describing is a Third World situation, and Iberia is not Third World. It is perhaps why Barcelona Vice is so aggressive on shutting down Asian massage parlors, which also don't exist to any significant extent in Portugal.[/QUOTE]To what extent do they exist and are they cheaper? I'm a sucker for a good massage with he in one form or another. I visited Asian places in Paris, Berlin, Barcelona and Hamburg, and I always left satisfied (cost me under 100 euro, although it was a few years ago). I still remember an incredible tantric in Hamburg of all places; it was one of the 2 greatest tantric experiences in why life. Going to Lisbon and Porto soon and could use the information. Thanks!

[QUOTE=ManInWhite;2727538]Any review on Tita Ipanema:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/tita-ipanema/[/URL]

And Vanessa Prado:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/call-girl-Vanessa-Prado-6898.html[/URL]

Thanks![/QUOTE]Speak of the devil, Vanessa Prado just got a review on the local board. She is working in Picoas, got 7 out of 10 from a local who praised her kissing and BBBJ.

The only thing to add to Mongerer's accounting of Tita Ipanema is that the current crop of pics are from her third ad. The first two had her face, and if you Google around you might find those pics posted on another ad site.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2727552]Vanessa Prado's ad is brand new. I don't see any local review board activity yet under that name or phone number.

Tita Ipenema doesn't have any reviews despite being with EP for quite some time. Her profile lists Oral Without, which hopefully is the case. For greater certainly of BBBJ, it is better to pick a lady who either has CIM in her profile, or is reviewed as doing BBBJ. Several posts below contain a list of recommended EP ladies, all of whom do BBBJ. While we all appreciate you taking one for the team, if choosing an EP lady, I would recommend that you choose from the list.

For instance Maria Conceicao has a very similar profile picture as Tita, more service offerings, and most importantly a lot of positive reviews.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback! I was looking more for a white skinned / tanned girl!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2727845]To what extent do they exist and are they cheaper? I'm a sucker for a good massage with he in one form or another. I visited Asian places in Paris, Berlin, Barcelona and Hamburg, and I always left satisfied (cost me under 100 euro, although it was a few years ago). I still remember an incredible tantric in Hamburg of all places; it was one of the 2 greatest tantric experiences in why life. Going to Lisbon and Porto soon and could use the information. Thanks![/QUOTE]For some reason, Asian Massage Parlors have just never been a big part of the Lisbon scene.

Fortunately, Lisbon has a good massage parlor scene featuring locals and Brazilians, many of whom speak some English.

Maybe Portugal just doesn't give as many visas to Asians, particularly those from Southeast Asia, as other countries in Europe.

And Lisbon's incall scene, especially the massage parlors, is just not that expensive. So Asians probably want to set up shop in other cities.