Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517368]Yeah, tell this to chicas quoting $300 per date. They don't care what the minimum wage is.

Just got quoted $300 by a pro on Tinder / SA, after I passed on her offer she blocked me immediately. Won't even negotiate) She was probably 7. 5, about 30 yr old.

At the same time, I have read trip reports, where forum members pulled freebies on SA. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Why tell it to them? For every girl asking for $300 in Medellin there are 1,000 who will be happy with 200 k or less. Anyone wanting to spend $300, more power to them. They'll have no problems finding girls who will accept the money. But unless someone feels the uncontrollable urge to spend $300 on $40 pussy, there's no reason to go there.

I've read about guys getting freebies off of SA. I've also heard a guy tell the incredible story of his heroism during the Vietnam war, that would have earned him a Medal of Honor, except his mission was top secret. He was 11 years old when the war ended.

If you're looking for free pussy, go get a girlfriend. Keep track of your spending for a few months and you'll learn the actual cost of free pussy.

If you're looking for free pussy in Medellin first ask yourself this question:

"Can I go out at home, on any given night, and end up fucking a hot girl for no more than the price of a few drinks?

If you can honestly answer "yes", don't worry about it. Get to Medellin, hit the clubs and work your magic. If you can't say yes to that question, the ATMs all dispense Colombian pesos, so ignore anyone asking for dollars.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517368]Yeah, tell this to chicas quoting $300 per date. They don't care what the minimum wage is.

Just got quoted $300 by a pro on Tinder / SA, after I passed on her offer she blocked me immediately. Won't even negotiate) She was probably 7. 5, about 30 yr old.

At the same time, I have read trip reports, where forum members pulled freebies on SA. Go figure.[/QUOTE]My MDE post from 12.16. 20.

Couple great quotes from the Rio thread.

Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21.

I think too many mongers take this hobby too seriously.

From Vagabundo,

But don't over pay.

Or if you do, just consider it a donation to NAMBLA, and consider yourself dammed to Mab's ladyboy hell. Because that's where you belong. Your man card will be revoked if you overpay. You will get worse sex, and you will skew the market.

The Brazilians have made a whole economy of stupid gringos who overpay.

Go ahead.

You have been warned.

Then from omicron gamma.

The senior members have spoken, are $400 pernoite. Let's learn the lesson from Marrakech. 5-7 years ago US $50 would get you an all nighter, then the British weekend millionaires and guys from the Middle East started acting stupid. It got to the point where girls in the club were asking for US $300 and confidently holding out for it. Street girls wanted US $100 for a short time. It just got out of control if you didn't have regulars.

Let's not ruin a good thing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2517320]Dude that is not a super insane low offer. $150 is a lot of money in Colombia. The minimum wage is $234 per month and she gets to make half of that in 3 days. Or more than twice that in 8 days. Finally a chick trying to give a dude a fair price and he thinks it is a con. Forget about what stuff costs at home; think about what stuff costs in Colombia. No idea why you would import sand to a beach such as Medellin, but that is another discussion.[/QUOTE]Yup. Something is really off when a hobbyist thinks $150 USD (albeit for three days) is a "super insane (low) price.

And the "minimum wage" in Colombia is a misnomer. That's what a huge % of the populace makes and many make less. It's not like the minimum wage in the US where a small % of the population earn that.

And the guy doesn't even know this chica. Pay her upfront and it's very unlikely she actually hangs with him for three days.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2517293]Gave me an insane offer. Just 150 USD for 3 days or 500 USD for 8 days for entire duration of my trip plus I have to purchase round trip ticket from Bogota to Med that is only $57. Now because of the super insane low offer, I am concerned and doubtful if this girl is for real or she is playing games because other girls want much more. But on other hand, I think, what I have to loose, if she is bad in bed or have an attitude, all I have to do is pay her 150 USD and drop her to the airport. Lets see what happens.[/QUOTE]Sigh. No, an insane offer is getting that for nothing. I keep saying this and you guys do not listen: do not offer anything to SA women. You guys are so used to paying for it that you do not realize these women will fuck you without an offer on the table. The best SA fucks have been when I meet them, fuck them, and give them a gift after. The worst ones are when there is a price. Once you set a price, the women do not think they have to perform.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2517293]I do agree that SA girls are looking for sugar daddy for 300 USD for night or a day. Even women in mid 30's are looking for this amount with smoking hot body. Not sure if the pictures they post are recent or few years old. Anyway, I came in contact with a 24 years SA girl who lives in Bogota, smoking hot body, blondish hair and great boobs. 2 to 4 times a day we do facetime and once did video cam sex and I verified that pictures posted are real. Gave me an insane offer. Just 150 USD for 3 days or 500 USD for 8 days for entire duration of my trip plus I have to purchase round trip ticket from Bogota to Med that is only $57. Now because of the super insane low offer, I am concerned and doubtful if this girl is for real or she is playing games because other girls want much more. But on other hand, I think, what I have to loose, if she is bad in bed or have an attitude, all I have to do is pay her 150 USD and drop her to the airport. Lets see what happens.[/QUOTE]You're buying a high priced lottery ticket that's highly unlikely to pan out. Who knows what the * she is really like? Would you buy a car unseen from someone you've never met before? Is there a shortage of girls on SA that are actually in MDE? I'm in Bogota on SA. I'm not looking at all at MDE women. When I have plans to go to MDE, I'll entertain girls from MDE. And I definitely won't fly them out to me. Now if they want to pay their way and meet me somewhere. Great.

My suggestion is to refocus your attention on girls in MDE where you actually are. Then make some plans to go to Bogota and when you're in Bogota, make plans to meet with this awesome chica. If she turns out to be really cool, then pay her fee of $150 usd for 3 days. That's a steal.

Hello guys,

Have been out of the picture most of this year and haven't been down south since fall of 2019. Curious what they did with all the casa's in el centro and surrounding areas? I prefer the walking daily tour of fun as compared to a date. Haven't really seen it mentioned here at the moment. Thanks.

Cheers.

Sky.

[QUOTE=JohnReter335;2516795]Right this is the reason why they ask you for.[/QUOTE]Yes still the law and No it doesn't not mess with Nav equipment. I'm commercial rated and my friends fly the bitching cargo, my friends have all have their devices running all the time.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2517227]I worked SA exhaustively the month of December. If you are going on a one week or ten day trip don't waste your time with SA. Most chicas on SA actually want a sugar daddy. You know like one individual guy willing to give them lots of money and take care of them financially. If you're looking for a monogomous relationship then maybe it's right for you.

Facebook is better because it's mostly chicas from Bello and Niquia and they are down to provide a GFE experience for 200 mil plus taxi if hot body and even less than that if not so thin or hot.[/QUOTE]This is definitely true. A lot of my contacts from facebook are from bello. I met with 2 different girls from there at different times, and it turned out those 2 girls were best friends. Probably the facebook bello girls all know each other.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2517389]Why tell it to them? For every girl asking for $300 in Medellin there are 1,000 who will be happy with 200 k or less. Anyone wanting to spend $300, more power to them. They'll have no problems finding girls who will accept the money. But unless someone feels the uncontrollable urge to spend $300 on $40 pussy, there's no reason to go there.

I've read about guys getting freebies off of SA. I've also heard a guy tell the incredible story of his heroism during the Vietnam war, that would have earned him a Medal of Honor, except his mission was top secret. He was 11 years old when the war ended.

If you're looking for free pussy, go get a girlfriend. Keep track of your spending for a few months and you'll learn the actual cost of free pussy.

If you're looking for free pussy in Medellin first ask yourself this question:

"Can I go out at home, on any given night, and end up fucking a hot girl for no more than the price of a few drinks?

If you can honestly answer "yes", don't worry about it. Get to Medellin, hit the clubs and work your magic. If you can't say yes to that question, the ATMs all dispense Colombian pesos, so ignore anyone asking for dollars.[/QUOTE]Too many guys come here thinking they're going to pull a hot ass Colombian girl and become their savior. Thinking just because they are a gringo with their gringo money all women want them.

This is the farthest from the truth.

If you're a decent looking guy with good style even in the game of mongering these pros will feel more comfortable around you and yes your mileage with them might be higher than the next guy.

This is about mongering and paying to fuck.

At the end of the day, pay what you want and just have fun.

A woman has the right to charge whatever she wants and we have the right to refuse and accept the offer.

Have you ever considered a really hot girl who isn't completely a pro says to herself "it'll take me 300 usd to bang this old guy who repulses me " and at times says " yea I'll bang this guy just for dinner cause I can enjoy sex with him as well".

I've seen girls in Gustos turn down potential clients.

So let's stick to useful info that can help each other.

It would be great if we can start threads to review girls on Seeking and FB.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2517389]Why tell it to them? For every girl asking for $300 in Medellin there are 1,000 who will be happy with 200 k or less. Anyone wanting to spend $300, more power to them. They'll have no problems finding girls who will accept the money. But unless someone feels the uncontrollable urge to spend $300 on $40 pussy, there's no reason to go there. If you're looking for free pussy, go get a girlfriend. Keep track of your spending for a few months and you'll learn the actual cost of free pussy. [/QUOTE]That is fine advice, and I agree with every word of it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2517389]I've read about guys getting freebies off of SA. I've also heard a guy tell the incredible story of his heroism during the Vietnam war, that would have earned him a Medal of Honor, except his mission was top secret. He was 11 years old when the war ended.[/QUOTE]This is the problem with you. You want to be Mr. Know it All even with things you do not get. Have you ever used seeking in Colombia? I do not think you have. The purpose of it is long term relationships not quick fucks.

Before I knew what I was doing, I was like the OP who thought he was getting a good deal. Hell, I paid out even more than $150 and flew a girl into Bogota from a close by city. We fucked like dogs in heat for days. She then told me she loved me and offered the money back to me! I insisted she keep it. Why the fuck would I make that up?

The girl I have met from SA that I am closest to has refused any cash from me. She has been adamant with doing so because she wants to make it perfectly clear to her friends and family and me that she is not with me for money. I gave her $500 because that supposedly is the amount you need to travel to Mexico. When I looked to get us tickets to Cancun, I asked her if she still had the money, she proudly showed me that she had all of it, yet there are still some of you here who think this girl is the same as some centro druggie. Why? Based on your vast experience with seeking women? Do you think a Centro druggie would hang onto $500 and not spend any of it?

Another seeking woman I met fucked the shit out of me before she got a penny. I put a gift in her purse at the end and Mr. E rightfully chastised me: Don't give money to women who are not working girls. THAT is sage advice.

Yes, there are working girls on seeking. Yes, there are men who use it and are johns. As of now though, the majority of women I have met in Colombia on seeking have not been on dates with ANY men. They are not working girls looking for short term quickies. They are classy women looking for long term relationships or arrangements.

Don Carlos has been rightly saying you all do not want to believe that these stunning, high class women can want to be with older men for little to no money. We have tried to tell you all differently but we are shouted down. If you do not want to believe it or are too cheap to spend a $100 for membership, that is your fucking problem.

Making a comparison between picking up women from an American bar and a woman off seeking in Colombia? Shiiiit, I cannot think of two more different experiences.

YOU should be the one blocking her immediately. A 30 yo 7. 5 can be gotten no problem for 50k-100k pesos. Why do guys even subject themselves to this humiliation!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517368]Yeah, tell this to chicas quoting $300 per date. They don't care what the minimum wage is.

Just got quoted $300 by a pro on Tinder / SA, after I passed on her offer she blocked me immediately. Won't even negotiate) She was probably 7. 5, about 30 yr old.

At the same time, I have read trip reports, where forum members pulled freebies on SA. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Read Kazeu's last point and let it sink in. Bargaining ahead of time for multiple days is absurd. It's basically doing things backwards. You have no idea what the chica is like in person. Meet her first and test drive her for an hour or two. If you get along well, then maybe arrange something for a longer period of time.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2517429]You're buying a high priced lottery ticket that's highly unlikely to pan out. Who knows what the * she is really like? Would you buy a car unseen from someone you've never met before? Is there a shortage of girls on SA that are actually in MDE? I'm in Bogota on SA. I'm not looking at all at MDE women. When I have plans to go to MDE, I'll entertain girls from MDE. And I definitely won't fly them out to me. Now if they want to pay their way and meet me somewhere. Great.

My suggestion is to refocus your attention on girls in MDE where you actually are. Then make some plans to go to Bogota and when you're in Bogota, make plans to meet with this awesome chica. If she turns out to be really cool, then pay her fee of $150 usd for 3 days. That's a steal.[/QUOTE]

This is one of the best SA posts I've read in a while.

[QUOTE=Maxum;2517387]You forgot the mongers. I guess specifically me. I'm on vacation and not really looking for a SD / SB relationship, I'm about the single dates, and they're not even real dates in the proper sense. They come over, we chat and have a few drinks, then it's a shower and sex. Rappi afterwards is optional and depends on performance / personality. Those types of punters are going to steer the site in a certain direction.

I already told another BM in private messages that if you don't want to be shelling out $300 dollars you have to be ready to walk away. Don't fixate, play the field. I had a girl laugh me out of the chat when I offered 150 K only for her to counteroffer with 250 K a day later. I had a cam model that wanted $100 that agreed to 250 K, taxi and all the bells and whistles included. The only way you're getting free sessions is if you've put in the time to where you graduate from being a SD / punter to more of a friend. In essence, you're going to be paying either way. It works for me as I enjoy sex a whole lot more with a personal connection, and mutual enjoyment. At the same time there's something to be said for the type of interaction this board is built around.

It's not difficult to separate the semi pros from the pros on SA. If you're 3 sentences deep into a conversation and she starts asking about the arrangement. Yeah. If your latest message never gets a reply, she's got about 40-50 convos going, you just got lost in the herd. If you move her over to whatsapp and beyond the initial greetings she leaves you on read for weeks on end. She doesn't care about you until you're in Medellin, money in hand.

Then there's the 'send me money' schtick. I've had 6 or 7 of those. I don't doubt that they need money but it's probably not for the father with cancer in the hospital, and why leave yourself open to being taken advantage of like that. Some of them are on SA purely for the scam and never intended to meet with anyone, some are trying to open a separate income stream. It hurts when one of the best prospects brings it up, but you need to say no and either meet up when you've arrived (hasn't happened for me), or block her. If the 'no' doesn't lead to her blocking you herself.

There's a ton of white noise on SA that you need to sort through to be able to get what you want out of the site.

There's been some talk on the board about underage girls, and I want to reiterate to use your judgement as best as you can. I literally just met up with a girl that had her age as 19 in her profile, and who's cedula had her listed as 20. She was 16, turning 17 in two months. I would've never caught it, except she volunteered the information on a straight question.[/QUOTE]

It's a way to kill time between trips.

[QUOTE=Combo;2517455]YOU should be the one blocking her immediately. A 30 yo 7. 5 can be gotten no problem for 50k-100k pesos. Why do guys even subject themselves to this humiliation!

Read Kazeu's last point and let it sink in. Bargaining ahead of time for multiple days is absurd. It's basically doing things backwards. You have no idea what the chica is like in person. Meet her first and test drive her for an hour or two. If you get along well, then maybe arrange something for a longer period of time.[/QUOTE]

Question about Seeking Arrangements. I just decided to download the app after reading all the comments about it. Sent a couple messages and just got a message. It says though "upgrade to read". There might be a couple but I know not everyone is paying a $100 a month.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2517446]Too many guys come here thinking they're going to pull a hot ass Colombian girl and become their savior. Thinking just because they are a gringo with their gringo money all women want them.

This is the farthest from the truth.

If you're a decent looking guy with good style even in the game of mongering these pros will feel more comfortable around you and yes your mileage with them might be higher than the next guy.

This is about mongering and paying to fuck.

At the end of the day, pay what you want and just have fun.

A woman has the right to charge whatever she wants and we have the right to refuse and accept the offer.

Have you ever considered a really hot girl who isn't completely a pro says to herself "it'll take me 300 usd to bang this old guy who repulses me " and at times says " yea I'll bang this guy just for dinner cause I can enjoy sex with him as well".[/QUOTE]I shared this post a few weeks back but it got buried. I think because I hadn't posted in a while so the admins needed to review. Either way, I tried to be as detailed and open as I could. Hope it helps shed some light on the subject. I was a bit naive and learned a good lesson.

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