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[QUOTE=Gangles]I was bemused to read in the national daily that the rapid fall in business has caused bargirls in the Patpong area to drop their prices to 800TBH for ST.
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anyone with even little experience in LOS can tell you this is all a bunch of bull.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker] ....cut
This leads to the point that the main reason we collect phone numbers of MP girls and bar girls in general is organize a time to see them.
If have a GF its easier just to go discreetly to an MP, right? ...cut.[/QUOTE]... or of many other reasons that would be the case. Here’s my outline-
have just returned home for a few days now, getting back to real life, recalling collection of pics and memories, Micks above quote inspired me to write this brief report.
Given the current crisis over the airport situation.
Had got myself up to BKK to deal directly with the airline head office. Surely the expected lineup at the office as it opened, I was promptly assigned #18.
So sitting in a quiet hallway corner, I organize my day, go new, or call up a reliable favorite? Turns out, old fav #1 did not answer her phone, but also perhaps she did not recognize my new sim #. plan b - call fav #2 – still no answer. STUPID me – what tg answers her phone by 9am!!! My turn quickly comes up and we are dealing with flight particulars though I am listed as a standby for the following day. Hey, what the heck-leaving 2 days early overall but at least I can get out! Considering I had heard thru the concierge at the JW Marriot that people were paying up to 50K just for a flight out WTF!!
So out on the street, morning air not BKK stifled yet. Choose to take a walk down towards Silom area, have a coffee, maybe a bit of gift shopping and check out the area.
As I am waiting for my expresso, phone rings – it is #1 (we’ll call her Nam). She is just returning the call, not knowing it was me. I can tell she is thrilled I have called and why I did not let her know I was in town. Maybe just me – I prefer not too much notice, as they tend to start ringing often once they know you are around.
Arranged to meet Nam around 4pm. Leaves me about 4hrs before returning to hotel to clean up etc… so my lazy morning plans still on track. Some lunch in me, shopping done, what to do around 2pm? At this point BKK air has necessitated a shower but after seeing all the non-p4p in their typical hot looks, I had to have some other stimulus.
So this is where Mick’s “…easier just to go discreetly to an MP…” just fits in so well. Why shower alone? Another choice – a fav at Annies or Tulip. I know maybe not so many fans of Annies here – but on a ymmv – I have always had a guaranteed 2hr/2 shot min. But alas 2hrs might not fit with seeing Nam, so continue along bts to Tulip.
Tulip report to be filed in massage thread.
Exit Tulip, not a repeat session here but maybe it was me also?
At our designated meeting spot. I guess I arrive first, no sight of Nam, good, have some fruit (pineapple) to remove/dissolve/enhance anything I might carry as evidence or else. Walk the immediate 50m area, maybe she’s grabbing some food (aren’t all tg’s always eating!). No find her but collect another lovely’s phone # with just a smile! So Nam arrives about 30min. late but looking great and carrying some sort of small backpack/bag. As much as I want to physically touch her, this is just not the thai way (in public anyway). She declines any offer for food but we slip into a 7-11 for some a couple of things along the way back to the hotel. Customary id check for her and up we go. In the room, she hugs and treats me like a very long lost lover. What followed for the next few hours and how she managed to coax it out of me was incredible! By now I need REAL food, so shower together, more loving attention by her, we do eventually get out of the room.
Did I mention-she bought ME a gift!! What a new tg tactic! This was the reason for the backpack (seeing some other clothes and stuff too in there).
Now let me say this – I did not intentionally want to take her LT – but you can hypothesize what is about to happen. She had been so sweet, I just haven’t said yes but she did leave her bag in the room as we head out for dinner. A nice time had, share about where her life is now (claims exited p4p) and gone back to school, in debt over 100K, but claims needs no support, will do it herself! (warrning radar reduced to low alert). Shares more about her family, her daughter and where her life might take her. Not so pie in the sky dreams like some others I have met but NOT into my long term plans.
Back to room, cleanup again and some playfulness-but it is I on empty, we fall asleep together very comfortably. She did tell me she has to be at school for 9am, thus the change in clothes. She does not wake up to alarm, but is already trying to arouse me as I wake up to some silky thai skin bathed in the morning’s filtered glow. We do get downstairs in time to have some breakfast before sending her off, with arrangements and directions where to meet her for lunch.
As we are having some fantastic Japanese food the my phone rings, not a number I know – it is the airline office – can I leave TONIGHT? Though I was on standby this timing was horrible, I was really enjoying my time (maybe too much) with this tg and was not quite done with her yet. Accept right there yes or no or maybe not get out for weeks and try explaining that back home! Told airline – would be there by 4pm to pick up, she seemed genuinely disappointed, I apologized, yet she understood why. So I had to be out of my hotel by 9:30 or 10pm latest. To make up to her, I invited her daughter and mom to join us for dinner. In my limited experience, I have yet to know a tg to bring along her daughter to meet a falang met in the p4p world. Met many sister’s thou – aren’t they all!!
Some phone calls, mom’s leg not feeling so good, Nam to pick up daughter after school and a meeting place picked. Another tg clock, this time 45mins late, almost had to abandon her. What a cute little girl, possible would have married her mother if met at a different time/place. We choose service a little quicker, little girl would like KFC, as we would choose elsewhere in the food court. Had her choose a take out box for her mom since she couldn’t come out- to her amazement. Little things go such a long way.
Again all proper physical distance in public, also in front of her girl, though I knew my time was getting very limited now. A walk after the meal, an ice cream for Nam’s little girl and time to say our goodbyes. I could feel Nam’s response as I touched her hand and looked in her eyes as her little girl watched the traffic below us. We broke our separate ways and she called me as I was leaving the hotel, bags in hand, I am totally suckered or she really misses me, too bad I did not have one more night (or more) with her. There is something I will follow up on the next trip.
[QUOTE=Goyave]Learning to speak some Thai might help. I know many Thai women that are really cute, smart, educated, charming, and not *****s... but they are usually "traps" as they often expect to become your regular girlfriend or wife if you are single (mia noi or "second wife" if you are not). I've even been once chased after by a really beautiful 25-year old virgin (yes, she told me that she still is!) Thai woman working in a mobile phone shop, but I've declined as I've understood very quickly that she wants to get married prior according to anyone her sexual favors.
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I agree with alot of what you say Goyave. I speak thai quite well, read too. Best way to proceed for the visitor is assume Thais are *****s. In full disclosure, I have a Thai gf for 6 years now so what can I say.
As for virgins, I me one in the Beer Garten :)
[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]... The worst stench I ever smelled in my life was from the French tourists down in St. Martin and St. Barts...[/QUOTE]That's funny because the worst odor I've ever smelt so far was from an American fat air hostess in a Delta Air Lines flight who uses so much (presumably cheap) perfume that it was really unbearable each time she was in the vicinity of my seat. Not kidding here: unless you suffer from anosmia, you could have smelt her approaching in a more than 10-meter radius. It was particularly terrible during lunch time.
I don't know which was her perfume that day (and I don't know why an American airline dares to employ clearly overweight air hostesses too), but it was not one from any of the French makers that I know and I know quite a lot of their fragrances.
We, stinky French people, are famous (among other things) for our expertise and production in this area. We can usually mask our cheesy odor most of the time, alas, it seems that it's not always the case. Sorry if the ones among us who can afford to spend their vacation in St. Martin and St. Barts stink more than Pepé Le Pew. I won't recommend you to use the Parisian subway during the evening rush-hours then: you might think that we are using chemical weapons of mass destruction and believe that you should [url="http://humor.beecy.net/funny-pictures/american-democracy/bumper-sticker.jpg"]bring democracy to our country[/url].
Just kidding here. But I was not when speaking about the [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNXIZuIBJKs"]smelly pussy[/url] from Delta Air Lines: I won't be the one feeding this! ;)
Don't get me wrong: she's probably very clean but is too fat and unattractive in my humble opinion and her bad taste in perfumes doesn't help either...
By the way, I don't share all your views about Thai people and their country, but I enjoy reading your reports nonetheless: they are usually funny and provocative and you have an original writing style.
[QUOTE=Khun Larry]I agree with alot of what you say Goyave. I speak thai quite well, read too. Best way to proceed for the visitor is assume Thais are *****s. In full disclosure, I have a Thai gf for 6 years now so what can I say.
As for virgins, I me one in the Beer Garten :)[/QUOTE]Thank you, Khun Larry. Let's say that the occasional visitor can make some valid assumptions if he or she limits his or her visits to certain places (such as the famous Biergarten / Beer Garden in Bangkok, Sukhumvit Soi 7, for instance).
Bangkok's red light district suffers from political chaos
BANGKOK (AFP) – The go-go bars are empty and sex is on sale at half price as Bangkok's infamous red light districts suffer from a blockade of the capital's airports.
"It's high season, but now it's like low season," said Nan, a scantily-clad hostess at one deserted nightspot in the Thai capital's notorious Patpong area.
An old man played guitar and sang along to a karaoke machine inside. Outside, beneath the pink neon, about 10 women in almost identical low-cut dresses tried to drum up trade.
Although anti-government protesters have ended an eight-day siege of Bangkok's airports, the effect of Thailand's ongoing political chaos on the tourism industry is devastating.
Sex tourism is no exception. Patpong depends on foreigners to keep afloat, but as the 350,000 air travellers stranded by the airport closures rush to leave Thailand, replacements are not coming in.
"Now Thailand has a problem -- no customers," said Lam, a man who works for Nan's bar, luring tourists in off the streets by posing as a friendly Thai offering unsolicited advice on good places to go.
Lam is hopeful the trade will return to Patpong, a lurid strip of live shows and sleazy nightlife.
"It is because of the airport, but now the airport is all clear," he said.
The Tourism Authority of Thailand is not so optimistic.
The group expects incoming travellers in 2009 to be half the 14.8 million the kingdom saw last year, with word of the protests causing tourists considering a trip to Thailand to book elsewhere.
At the normally standing-room-only "ping-pong" shows, five or six women swarm each new arrival. Some are following the example of Thailand's resorts and luxury hotels by offering discounted rates.
Prostitutes offer two hours of sexual services for 800 baht (about 22 dollars) instead of the normal 1,500 to 2,000 baht that would cost.
"Since re-opening of the airports business is trickling in but very slow," adding that guests normally came from Europe -- especially the Netherlands and Belgium -- and Asian countries such as South Korea, Japan and Singapore.
The blockade may have brought in some extra trade.
American tourists Lisa Richardson, 30, and Michael Latham, 29, said they would never have come to Patpong had they not been stranded in Bangkok.
"Being stuck for an extra week convinced us to spend time and money on things we wouldn't have normally -- ping-pong shows for example," said Latham.
But he said that he felt for Thais whose livelihood was being hit, adding: "they're hurt so much worse than we are and it just hurts to see," Latham said.
Thailand was until 2005 the world's leading destination for sex tourists, when its crown was taken by Brazil, according to Interpol.
Although prostitution is officially illegal in Thailand, estimates for the number of sex workers range from 80 000 to two million women and men.
At her Patpong bar, Nan says she hopes the tourists return soon, as she sends the money she earns back to her family near the Cambodian border.
"Maybe in 15 days, a month it comes back," she said.
[QUOTE=Khun Larry] I speak thai quite well, read too. Best way to proceed for the visitor is assume Thais are *****s. In full disclosure, I have a Thai gf for 6 years now so what can I say.[/QUOTE]This statement prove exactly how much you don't know about Thailand or Thai women. Therefore, you claim that your girlfriend is a ***** along with my Thai wife. Your atrtitude towards good, decent Thai women, whom are the majority, pisses me off.
[QUOTE=Ub 6969]Hey Alsan, Where exactly were the Russian girls hanging around and can you still find them round.
McDonalds? How much were they asking?[/QUOTE]Hi Ub69,
Many Russian girls in Moscow, St.Petersburg etc.
Prices about $100-$500
In Thailand.... many Thai girls!
Cheers
[QUOTE=PauloThai]Hi Ub69,
Many Russian girls in Moscow, St.Petersburg etc.
Prices about $100-$500
In Thailand.... many Thai girls!
Cheers[/QUOTE]
I visited some old haunts and ended up back at CM2. Essentially, they (EE?Russian) charge twice or more than Thai. Typically asking 3-5KB, but once the stroke of 0200, the real bargaining starts :)
The Thai and Middle Eastern girls where mostly model quality than in Nana or the BTS stations. I suppose it helps having to pay a cover charge.
They told me there are some after hours bars they go for a last shot at a customer if they have nothing when normal bars close.
I didn't find out the names.
[QUOTE=PauloThai]Hi Ub69,
Many Russian girls in Moscow, St.Petersburg etc.
Prices about $100-$500
In Thailand.... many Thai girls!
Cheers[/QUOTE]
oh lord, here we are again, another smart ass remark about "when in Thailand..."
Put a lid on it. Not everyone going to Thailand is looking for Thai girls. If your goal is to fuck as many TGs as you can during your Holiday, do so but don't blame others because they want something different.
Thai girls are nice but sometimes a change of pace (and girls) is most welcome so the Russian girls (or should I say uzbeks, for the most part) have a lot of business.
Ub 6969,
Russiam Girls usually hang around CM2, Rajah hotel (soi 4), some in front of the Subway shop Soi 7/1, many around the grace hotel and Mike Place.
Prices are higher than Thai girls and can go from 3,500 to 5/6,000 depending on what services you require
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow, you're a real class act (on my ignore list you go...)[/QUOTE]Khun Larry edited his post at least once before you quoted it, NicFrenchy, and it was already a great improvement from the first published version that I read.
A non negligible number of tourists (and even expatriates) who only visit, or stay at, certain places and locations might think alike, but I also disagree: in their great majority, Thai women are decent and charming persons, not *****s, but the great majority of tourists (and alas, lots of expats too) will probably never ever have the opportunity to (really) know them. And will indeed encounter more P4P girls than "regular" ones.
It's a pity if someone who can speak Thai quite well does not know more of the second "species" than of the first one. I'd rather think that Khun Larry wanted to warn the average Joe that he would very seldom meet non-P4P women in the Land of Smiles.
Another Thai expert that doesn't know shit about Thailand or Thai women. I'm willing to bet your GF is straight from S of L or some other $2 blowjob bar. You get what your deserve. Or, I suspect it's all you can get as no decent woman is going to have anything to do with the likes of you.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I'm willing to bet your GF is straight from S of L or some other $2 blowjob bar. [/QUOTE]
Well for the life of me, if BJ's were $2 a pop @ SOL I'd set up camp there. RA, you would be surprised by the look of some of the SOL girls, cute as a button.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well for the life of me, if BJ's were $2 a pop @ SOL I'd set up camp there. RA, you would be surprised by the look of some of the SOL girls, cute as a button.[/QUOTE]
Hope SOL Tuk will be back to BKK soon as look forward to a BJ girl who can take it alll in. That is a special feeling.
Often I would rather have a fuck than have a girl blow just the knob and maybe just a little more. Here I am refering to girls that are very average at blow jobs.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Hope SOL Tuk will be back to BKK soon as look forward to a BJ girl who can take it alll in. That is a special feeling.[/QUOTE]Tuk is out of the Biz, completely. She changed her Mobile number so is very hard to reach now. Only a very select bunch have her number and sadly, I am not one of them.
[QUOTE]Often I would rather have a fuck than have a girl blow just the knob and maybe just a little more. Here I am refering to girls that are very average at blow jobs.[/QUOTE]I like to be blown sometimes, especially when the girl is good and relaxed. The feeling of relaxing while a girl gives you a slow wet head is beautiful :)
Ah! shit, I am all excited now! off to SOL I go.