Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2236906]I have never tried 7-Heaven but it sounds similar to Bit Style down the small sub soi on the left past the Holiday Inn on Sukhumvit Soi 22. I wasn't a fan of that place and not sure if it is still open. I don't remember if they required payment upfront, too. [/QUOTE]Unlike you I'm a fan of Bit Style. Much better looking girls (and place) then at the average BJ bar. As far as I know it's still open. I always pay upfront there and I never got bad service. However I don't know if they insist on payment upfront. I never asked them if I could pay afterwards.

At the Wood Bar / Dr BJ I have always paid afterwards, when I was still going there. I'm surprised to read here that people had to pay upfront.

[QUOTE=DonkeyLeg;2236573]Thailand or the Philippines to get away from dreary English winters? The land of smiles win outs. Got myself a great crib in Lang Suan close enough to the action and with great food choices.

On Lang Suan itself my favorites are Smoking Pug a great Yankee style smokehouse with Cajun style rib racks to die for and Ninth Caf for my Tom Yum and Somtam. The best of all though is the open kitchen eating emporium attached to Tops supermarket at Central Chitlom. It's amazing, sitting at the same table you can have a bowl of noodles costing 70 baht or 200 grams of caviar costing 38000 baht. You can order from an extensive menu or shop at the supermarkets butchers department for your prime cut then have them prepare it as you desire for an extra 160 baht which includes a side dish, the mashed potatoes are good. Buy a bottle of wine (the white is perfectly chilled) from their excellent selection in the wine department and have it served without a corkage charge. Great sushi and oysters from everywhere on earth. Also on Lang Suan Muse hotel has a good Italian and staying with the same cuisine a little further along there's limoncello on 11 great Parma ham pizza and Rossano's on 21, Friday or Saturday is best there, you get the tenors and soprano's doing their thing..[/QUOTE]Essentially DL you are correct, it's mostly down to you and the girl. Not wanting to appear too picky because I visit all sorts of places up and down the town but there are for me at least some additional factors that contribute to a good session.

The greeting on entering. Is it welcoming, friendly, helpful? I like Japanese themed shops here.

The room, is it on suite with fresh bedding and not too well travelled toweling. Has there been decent money spent on the fit out and ongoing maintenance.

Finally and most importantly what is the management style of the place, has there been training, what degree of emphasis is communicated to the girls on giving good service.

A skilled dedicated provider well suited to the profession will shine no matter where she works, unfortunately that only covers a minority of the girls, most need ongoing coaching and a management who closely monitor customer satisfaction levels and respond appropriately when standards fall. Not all girls are suited to the lifestyle.

Anyway glad you're enjoying Thailand. I agree with you it's a great place to hang out.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2237417]Unlike you I'm a fan of Bit Style. Much better looking girls (and place) then at the average BJ bar. As far as I know it's still open. I always pay upfront there and I never got bad service. However I don't know if they insist on payment upfront. I never asked them if I could pay afterwards.

At the Wood Bar / Dr BJ I have always paid afterwards, when I was still going there. I'm surprised to read here that people had to pay upfront.[/QUOTE]It is so long since I've been to Wood Bar!/Dr. BJ's Salon, I didn't recall whether I paid upfront there or not and just took GettingFedUp's report on the system. But sometimes these things do vary. I was once asked to pay upfront at L0litas over the past 5-6 years. I declined and the cashier just smiled and waved me on. One time, a girl at Kasalong Bar placed a condom on the seat next to me and stopped to tear open the package before beginning to blow me. "Nope! We're not doing that." She sheepishly put it away. But these occasional attempts to change the deal is a reason I still will ask the girl those tedious questions before I agree to go up the stairs or to the room with her.

I really wanted Bit Style to do well and gave them 5 tries. Of those 5 tries, only one, the second one, resulted in a Happy Blowjob Ending (BBBJ+CIM) for me. I aborted the mission the first and third visit because the girls were so impossibly unresponsive to my simple requests to go slower, no teeth and so on (I still paid of course). The last two times I stopped in I did not see a girl in the line up who was attractive enough to spend the 700-800 baht on as charged elsewhere, much less the 1300 baht charged at Bit Style. Actually, I never saw one girl in their line up of 5-7 girls on any of my 5 visits that matched or in any way beat the better looking girls at the other BJ Bars. At that time.

This was in the first few months they were open. I understand they have changed or revamped the environment and conditions a couple of times since then so maybe I will give them a 6th try someday.

In their first incarnation, the time I gave them 5 visits, they were trying to emulate the Japanese style pinsaro environment, including the very loud music on the overhead sound system supposedly to drown out the noise coming from sexual activities of couples or more on the other side of the cubicle walls. Which meant the girl and I had to shout opening comments meant to establish at least some chemistry. Worse, I had to shout simple requests during the act, like "COULD YOU PLEASE GO SLOWER AND MORE GENTLE?" huh? "I SAID, COULD YOU PLEASE GO SLOWER AND MORE GENTLE? CHA CHA BOW BOW?" oh. ok. Then she wouldn't. So I never knew if it was because she honestly could not hear me or did not understand or just didn't want to do it that way.

And one of the most annoying things was the lighting in the cubicles was exactly the opposite what it should have been. The lamp was anchored on a table across from the couch, not next to or, better, behind the couch. That meant my body in all its glorious wrinkles and fat rolls, was the star of the show and in full spotlight throughout the experience, while HER face was in dark shadow because the light source was behind her head or entirely obliterated for me after looking toward and essentially directly into the light for more than 2 minutes. The girls could just as well have been the ugliest girls in all of Bangkok if the lighting in the cubicle is such that their faces are cast in deep shadow during the session.

And, of course, as usual for virtually all BJ Bars, the only effort they made at furnishing the place with something truly accommodating to both getting and giving a blowjob was a couch and a hard floor. Period. Which meant there was zero effort at providing a better or more BJ-accommodating environment. I just could not find in either the line ups I saw or the accommodations one reason to pay 400-500 baht more than what other such bars were charging. Again, at that time. But I am willing to give it another try if I hear they got their shit together on some of the other really annoying, BJ-repellent factors I could not get past in those first 3-4 months of operation.

[QUOTE=TheBronx;2237370]Going to BKK for the first time and was wondering if anyone has some experience with these hotels. Seem pretty cheap and centrally located to Nana And Soi Cowboy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you pick the Ambassador, be sure to get a high floor in the tower. Buffet breakfast is a world tour. You'll see what I mean.
We are in the wrong message board this should be in hotels.
RL.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2237412]Maybe there's more than one Asia Hotel in Bangkok but if you mean the one next to BTS station Ratchathewi then it's not really close to the action. Girls might not want to go with you if your hotel is that far away. I suggest you look for a hotel around BTS station Nana or Asok. Then you are close to NEP (Nana Entertainment Plaza) and Soi Cowboy.[/QUOTE]Damn. Was hoping to attempt to find one for LT.

Would this be big no no? Or would LT change some of the calculus?

Apologies for the dumb questions.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2237703]Damn. Was hoping to attempt to find one for LT.

Would this be big no no? Or would LT change some of the calculus?

Apologies for the dumb questions.[/QUOTE]Universal rule: Time is money.

Is Anal Sex an extra cost or part of full service short time at around 1500 Baht for short time? If extra cost how much for short time. Sharing experiences with this would be appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2237703]Damn. Was hoping to attempt to find one for LT.

Would this be big no no? Or would LT change some of the calculus?.[/QUOTE]I don't think the girl cares so much about how far your hotel is if you take her LT. However, you must adjust your expectations on the amount of time she spends with you and you pay for her taxi home. I used to have a girl come visit me in Pattaya from her Thai bar in Sri Racha but I let her go at 1 pm instead of 3 pm since she had longer to travel back home to get ready for work.

I hit woodbar up once a trip for a BJ from K. I have posted reports before on her, nice on the eyes and now some nice fake tits. BJ skill only average though, but for whatever reason she always does it for me, often way faster than I intend! I can't be 100% positive, but I am pretty sure they have always asked me for payment up front. I think I just took it as their MO so never objected and she knows me from many trips so she knows I am good for it. I took Z from their lineup VIP once but it was nothing interesting and I haven't seen her there in over a year. I have been trying to get K to go VIP (FS) but she claims she doesn't. If anyone else gets a different response let me know. As an aside the woodbar twitter is good browsing and fun while you are away from LOS.

WB girls, or at least K, also want a tip for topless or any additional play where are kassalong the girls have done this on their own or on request. In particular a kassalong girl last time did it without request after a while when I was having a difficult time finishing. Was a good move on her part for extra stimulation and I appreciated the extra effort and rewarded it. Damn I miss thailand, can't wait to be back in a week.

Both places have only 3/4 walls so you hear your fellow punters and girls, which honestly to me has always been a turn on. In massage places to like snow white I find it great to hear a girl getting in good in the next room. But I can also see if some guy was vocal that would work in the opposite way.

Is wood bar worth the extra over kassalong (my point of comparison from experience), no, it's just about a slightly different setup and different selection. However one thing I do like is being able to preview on twitter beforehand, their pics are accurate and I feel like I can make a better choice than the normal 30 second lineup you get and it's fun after to see the pics and recall dropping a load in her mouth.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2237439]It is so long since I've been to Wood Bar!/Dr. BJ's Salon, I didn't recall whether I paid upfront there or not and just took GettingFedUp's report on the system. But sometimes these things do vary. I was once asked to pay upfront at L0litas over the past 5-6 years. I declined and the cashier just smiled and waved me on. One time, a girl at Kasalong Bar placed a condom on the seat next to me and stopped to tear open the package before beginning to blow me. "Nope! We're not doing that." She sheepishly put it away. But these occasional attempts to change the deal is a reason I still will ask the girl those tedious questions before I agree to go up the stairs or to the room with her.
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Both places have only 3/4 walls so you hear your fellow punters and girls, which honestly to me has always been a turn on. In massage places to like snow white I find it great to hear a girl getting in good in the next room. But I can also see if some guy was vocal that would work in the opposite way.
[/QUOTE]Can't say it turns me on, but I don't mind hearing a few subtle sounds from next door. Where Bit Style got it wrong for me (in its first incarnation, that is. Maybe different now), was in cranking up the volume of the overhead music system (really awful music, too) in order to drown out those sounds from cubicle to cubicle.

Maybe that works in Japan. But with westerners and the girls they are with it turns out loud moaners and groaners aren't doing that as some uncontrollable, involuntary response to intense sexual pleasure. I am sure they don't make those sounds when they are masturbating alone in a room. No, it is meant to "communicate" various things with their partner. Consequently, if you crank up the volume on the overhead music system, that only means the moaners and groaners will crank up the volume on their moans, groans, giggles and laughs to overcome the music volume and still "communicate" with each other. LOL. And that is what they did in Bit Style.

A couple of times I shouted a request for the girl I was with to please ask the clerk to turn down the music volume to about half, which she did. I don't mind a bit of music in the background, even like it. But not THAT loud. That only lasted about two minutes until the next customer walked in and, not wanting to deprive him of the full Bit Style Experience, somebody cranked it right back up to 11.

I fondly remember back to when Cowboy was a Coyote free zone, and ladyboy free zone. LOL.

There should legislation to keep the ladyboys out and in their own zone.

Last night was shocked to see 3 or 4 ladyboys all with blonde to reddish blonde hair now appearing to work at 5 Star. So nude female dancers inside still, but the ladyboys remained clothed.

They initially were outside, but came into the bar with a group of Asian customers and were generally making a nuisance of themselves by standing in front of my area. The old guy Farang with white hair next to me was gawking at them and asks me are they real girls. I say no fucking way are they real ladies. All tall "girls" with evident surgeries. One comes over and sits on his lap. He is telling me that yes she is a real girl and has a sweet little girl voice. Yes as real as the sole of my foot.

Two things are disturbing. Mixed bars with girls and a few ladyboys, LBs not even that stunning or charming. LOL Also the fact that 5 star bar was a lot busier than I ever saw before, even though the LBs were initially outside. I had thought this bar was going to become an expats style of bar, with all girls low on surgeries. How wrong I was!

I had Oiy come to me. She did not seem very enthused about the ladyboys there at all. Oiy is petite young girl, slim but curvy, very tight, with body 9 out of 10 perfection. Would be a 10 with slightly bigger ass and tits. Tits shimmer beautifully when she dances nude. Her slit looks very beautiful too. Face is a 7+ maybe 8, with very Thai little upturned nose. Skin not dark. Oiy was a bit of a starfish first time I went with her. Yet her body looks so hot, and I was so horny, that I took her again, with my regulars unavailable. Her performance was a bit better than first time, still very conservative and shy. She does not really suit me perfectly with very tight small pussy. However because she is not restrictive at all and even includes tongue kissing, I could make it work. Just have to tolerate she can only take about 2 inches in, in BBBJ, and for sex have to insert just half a dick and gradually work up to more, as her pussy naturally stretches. By 15 to 20 min fucking mark, she is taking almost full dick in doggy. She does not complain, push away, or restrict in any way, so by going gently I can make it work. At the end I ask was everything OK and she still had no complaints at all despite a reasonably extended fuck. I can't say she is into it big time as yet. No evidence of a cum for her, despite my DATY best efforts. However I managed to allow myself to enjoy her body. LOL No girl in Crazy House has looks this good for the whole package at the moment and all natural.

What I refer to as dick scared girls, are girls that are not helping to make it work despite some difficulties, instead having stiff legs, pushing away, etc. That is what typically causes my dick to crash. However this girl no problem. I recognise that her pussy is not perfect for me. I prefer a bit bigger without the low uterus in the way but still gripping softly nicely. Most of my regular girls are mothers, in fact all my remaining regulars are mothers. I lost the last few non mothers recently. Even one of my regular girl mothers is a bit to tight in the pussy for me. LOL Fortunately my regular GF has pussy of perfection for me. Moderately tight, but can take it all with a bit of stretching.

Did you guys all understand the average pussy has uterus bulge only about 3 to 4 inches in easily reachable my fingers, and average vagina maybe only 4 inches to 5 inches max long before starts naturally stretching. So giving a girl time to stretch gradually is important rather than just hard bang bang from the start. I imagine some girls are very scared because they expect the guy to go hard bang bang, which is actually not my style (but they don't know me if first time).

You really want girls to be enjoying and not scared so that their pussy muscles will want to grip your cock to make a nice feeling. My regular MP girl will visit my Hotel shortly. More for her, no management overhead. LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2237439]It is so long since I've been to Wood Bar!/Dr. BJ's Salon, I didn't recall whether I paid upfront there or not and just took GettingFedUp's report on the system. But sometimes these things do vary. I was once asked to pay upfront at L0litas over the past 5-6 years. I declined and the cashier just smiled and waved me on. One time, a girl at Kasalong Bar placed a condom on the seat next to me and stopped to tear open the package before beginning to blow me. "Nope! We're not doing that." She sheepishly put it away. But these occasional attempts to change the deal is a reason I still will ask the girl those tedious questions before I agree to go up the stairs or to the room with her.

I really wanted Bit Style to do well and gave them 5 tries. Of those 5 tries, only one, the second one, resulted in a Happy Blowjob Ending (BBBJ+CIM) for me. I aborted the mission the first and third visit because the girls were so impossibly unresponsive to my simple requests to go slower, no teeth and so on (I still paid of course). The last two times I stopped in I did not see a girl in the line up who was attractive enough to spend the 700-800 baht on as charged elsewhere, much less the 1300 baht charged at Bit Style. Actually, I never saw one girl in their line up of 5-7 girls on any of my 5 visits that matched or in any way beat the better looking girls at the other BJ Bars. At that time.
[/QUOTE]In my experience, all of the BJ bars are expecting the customer to pay up front, at least for the initial BJ. I could be wrong, and forget the system at Loli-tas.

I can understand well that the odd girl has to be trained to go slow motion and no hands etc. , but is very surprising to have 4 out of 5 duds. I only ever tried 3 girls at Dr BJ. First was so-so I forget. 3rd was maybe letter Z with new implants, for FS and a bit disappointing from memory, so not good enough to repeat. 2nd girl was excellent so basically stuck with her still she stopped working. I also had regular at Loli-tas Anne till she stopped working, for FS. I rarely want just a BJ. Chrome bar experiences were generally pretty good. Can't remember a bad session at all.

For Kasalong, 1 girl was very good FS, and the other was so so (moderate) BJ only. However not exactly stunners. Above average looks, otherwise I would not take them

Girls still need to be hot and fun for me, and of course superb BBBJ super slow and slurpy technique does not go amiss.

So my success rate in these type of establishments is above my normal success rate, better than for general soapy and bar girls, and even better than for oily MP girls, I think. So a little surprising to hear a poor success rate. Less can go wrong, I would have thought, but yes a bad BJ technique can be excruciating, so perhaps that is why I am not a guy keen to just lie back and be blown. I am wanting to be more active.

My regular Shark girl kissy Patty gives a very good BBBJ to CIM even with teeth braces, so have that to fall back on if ever struggling to cum. Stunningly beautiful pussy though. That is my thing. LOL

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2237592]If you pick the Ambassador, be sure to get a high floor in the tower. Buffet breakfast is a world tour. You'll see what I mean.
We are in the wrong message board this should be in hotels.
RL.[/QUOTE]That is amusing. Do I detect disguised racism? I am really just pulling your leg man. I am quite happy to state I don't prefer to be in Hotels full of the more stinky under arm races but even Farangs can be really bad on this issue too, and hate worst of all to be in with a Chinese tour, as they seem to take the prize for ill mannered. Hotels full of Arab types (Soi 3) were the most creepy as they seemed to stare at me and my girlfriend, and the lack of pork is an issue for Thai girls who eat mainly pork. LOL Hotels full of Japanese and Singapore guys were not an issue at all. Can even be preferred.

So I tend to stay in Hotels in the higher Soi numbers. E. g. Sakura Sky was a recent bargain basement stay in Soi 33 when just passing through and needing a place for sex. LOL Low Sois on Sukhumwit odd side up to 11 is not my preferred area. Prefer to be after that. On8 is good place though.

A great option for me is to stay in Hotels and take no Hotel breakfast at all. Look after my weight. Use Hotel microwave to heat up something healthy or cook some oats. I can make a drip filter coffee in my room. Have filter papers and a funnel and thermos. Most recently hotels at least have jug to boil water.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2237760]That is amusing. Do I detect disguised racism? I am really just pulling your leg man. I am quite happy to state I don't prefer to be in Hotels full of the more stinky under arm races but even Farangs can be really bad on this issue too, and hate worst of all to be in with a Chinese tour, as they seem to take the prize for ill mannered. Hotels full of Arab types (Soi 3) were the most creepy as they seemed to stare at me and my girlfriend, and the lack of pork is an issue for Thai girls who eat mainly pork. LOL Hotels full of Japanese and Singapore guys were not an issue at all. Can even be preferred.

So I tend to stay in Hotels in the higher Soi numbers. E. g. Sakura Sky was a recent bargain basement stay in Soi 33 when just passing through and needing a place for sex. LOL Low Sois on Sukhumwit odd side up to 11 is not my preferred area. Prefer to be after that. On8 is good place though.

A great option for me is to stay in Hotels and take no Hotel breakfast at all. Look after my weight. Use Hotel microwave to heat up something healthy or cook some oats. I can make a drip filter coffee in my room. Have filter papers and a funnel and thermos. Most recently hotels at least have jug to boil water.[/QUOTE]I have changed to ABNB. I only eat fruits, cereals and coffee. I buy in the market and prepare in the room. I big savings over Hotel charges. I stay 4 nights in one area and then switch to another. In Nov I start in a great condo near Chong nansi and then 4 days later I'm in the Phrom Puong Soi 24 zone for 4 days. Undecided after that. Maybe off to Phuket or Chaing Mai. Of course the high season is upon us so rates will raise.

RL.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2237751]In my experience, all of the BJ bars are expecting the customer to pay up front, at least for the initial BJ. I could be wrong, and forget the system at Loli-tas.[/QUOTE]Except for Bit Style I never had to pay upfront in any BJ bar in Bangkok or Pattaya.