Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2799617]Thanks for the report and how old are you?[/QUOTE]50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2799442]Well, it's time for a trip report from my Rio trip...[/QUOTE]As others have said, great report. Glad you wrote it.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2799657]50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.[/QUOTE]The best of the pills is tadalafil, because it has a long term effect. You could take 5 MG per day and it probably helps you out at any time. There isn't this immediate effect, in fact, you might find that the best effect is the long lasting one after an hour.

There is another sure-fire way, for which you could visit the Doctor Instituto Cavalcanti in São Paulo and he gives you a prescription for a bimix, injection, and you go to the Flucca Pharmacia de Manipulação (or rather you contact them by WhatsApp) pass your prescription (do the highest concentration). The doctor's consultation costs 800 reais and the 5 ML bottles aren't cheap either. But effectiveness is 100%.

[QUOTE=CherchezFemme;2799497]I will never cease to be amazed at how stupid and short-sighted women can be, especially the younger ones.[/QUOTE]Yes, in those cases it may just be they don't like you that much. With my two prospects I just came off my first date. The educated one with good family and no children, so I completed my save-a-ho mission with her by yanking her out of the place. I had messaged her Friday (against the general advice, but hey, I find weekends are difficult with the paid options, so I really wanted to try a quiet weekend with going to the beach and all. I got her to commit. Came Saturday and she said they wouldn't let her go. The thing is, just with my other sweetie, they get them on their final pay. They hold back the payment until the very end. If she wants to leave a day earlier (or even just feels bad) they don't let her go, they would not pay anything. Of course it's illegal. These places can be very abusive.

(That girl told me the boss of that one establishment, has another establishment also, believe it or not, that is such an asshole, he put his own 18 year old daughter to rent out her pussy. I mean, imagine the kind of human being who would do that, and then imagine how much of a heart he'll have for other men's daughters. And this is a true 24 hours place, I. e., you can go there any time of day or night, and they are on straight 24 hours multi day duty. Sign up for 10 days straight and they do not get out or lose their money.).

Anyway, I was insisting and ultimately paying a slightly exaggerated bar fine to get her out. Just because I really wanted the weekend to be that and not random other encounters. So at 3 am finally she arrived at my cheap hotel in Niteroi, where some 8 hours earlier I had two very nice and cute girls over for a little revenge fuck. The next morning we went to the beach-near AirBnB I had booked for us, at least to enjoy the Sunday. Now this wasn't the commercial deal any more, and she started warming up to me more and more. Cuddling all night was really nice. And she left immediately messaging me that she misses me already and felt so good in my arms and all. And I totally like her, kind of my type, and she is a quality girl. Left me with her condoms and lidocaine gel and the other gel, because she doesn't need it any more and doesn't want her parents to find it by accident.

So the story of this one is she was doing this for 2 months after she had lost her regular job because she didn't want to move with the company, so she could finish her law school. Chew on that. A girl can get herself through law school this way. Something a young man can never do. But the opportunities to work in some house are not so abundant, so they actually take pretty shitty deals. She pretty much hated the job and used lidocaine gel to not feel anything, like pain. So, when we two clicked, it was because she thought I was being nice, and she told me very few are, and she didn't give her number to (m) any. Taken with the right size grain of salt, it sounded legit.

So, this one was redeemed. I think she'll respond to me quicker from now on.

But today my oh so sweet girl is also back to work for her last couple of days after the weekend. (I don't know why so many of those places take the weekend off, it doesn't seem to make sense, since many working dudes have more time on weekends.) And I am ready to pay her an unannounced visit. I am quite pumped up, because I was quite smitten by her. Her story too isn't so simple. She has two kids, and I think I found out on social media that probably the dad of her youngest died couple of years ago and she doesn't seem to be over it. So, there are real stories everywhere. They aren't all trash. I have this big heart and as you know I kind of enjoy treating them as anything between my love interest and my own daughters. I don't feel this sense of "women are oppressed so I need to rescue damsels in distress", no, because women have this amazing opportunity that guys just don't have. But then I just look for whether there is someone who is worth, who treats me well and genuine, and then I love to extend my hand.

Now what I'll do with all of those is going to be a question. But let's see how it goes today.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2799657]50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.[/QUOTE]I use both Cialis and Viagra generic depending on the situation. Both work equally well with few side effects for me. Main one is bloodshot eyes. Lumify eyedrops are AMAZING for this. Forget visine and that shit. These you literally go from bloodshot to bright white in about two minutes.

I use K Health online pharmacy out of Florida and have been happy.

I use Viagra if I know I am for sure fucking one or two times in next few hours and then prob some other day later in the week and would retake then. I use Cialis when on a multi girl binge. Even tho it can last a few days I usually top up each day. But in a pinch it will def last three days no problem. If I had to choose one it would be Cialis because you don't have to time it. You could take it Sunday and not fuck till Mon or Tues.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2799657]50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.[/QUOTE]If you tolerate Cialis well, I find it superior to Viagra. Maybe it's just me, but using Cialis also works like an aphrodisiac for me, while V just does its job (but does it well). The problem with see for me, is that my heart rate goes berserk along with the excitement, and would only return to normal in a day or two. But again, if it doesn't have any side effects for you, I'd start with see.

Keep in mind, though, that one major sexual side effect of any ED drug, is that it delays the climax. And while it might sound like a good thing to some guys, it often is not. Like Kramer said, sometimes it's enough already, and I just want to sleep, KKKK.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2799532]I know another board member that is about the same age that goes through this and he does not see it as a good thing. He is actually frustrated by it. Seems it is the sex that counts for you, while for him it is the blowing of the load that matters.[/QUOTE]I ended up blowing the load with some of the girls. I enjoy the sex regardless. I don't get frustrated by it. I look at the good side. I pay for an hour and get to take full advantage. If I don't finish with one girl then I go back and get another girl and try it again. It is probably an issue with some seniors. I never had that issue when I was younger. I don't have erectile dysfunction yet so that's a bonus.

Is there a limit to how much you can purchase at duty free? I know there is a limit of 500 dollars when bringing gifts into the country but if you purchase everything in duty free, do you bypass that rule?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2800156]Is there a limit to how much you can purchase at duty free? I know there is a limit of 500 dollars when bringing gifts into the country but if you purchase everything in duty free, do you bypass that rule?[/QUOTE]Here you go.

[URL]https://www.worldtravelguide.net/guides/south-america/brazil/money-duty-free/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bravo;2800156]Is there a limit to how much you can purchase at duty free? I know there is a limit of 500 dollars when bringing gifts into the country but if you purchase everything in duty free, do you bypass that rule?[/QUOTE]Since last July the limit is USD 1000 for the gifts and alcohol and USD 1000 for arrival duty free. [URL]https://www.gov.br/receitafederal/pt-br/assuntos/aduana-e-comercio-exterior/viagens-internacionais/guia-do-viajante/travellers-guide/arriving-in-brazill/exemptions-quotas-quantity-limits-and-duty-free[/URL].

I was in 4 X4 yesterday and had a great convo with a newbie and a vet, the 3 of us were talking about the changes in Rio. For the newbie, it was paradise. It was his 3rd day in country, and he was as happy as a pig in shit. The vet and I were complaining that it seems like the freelancers are all asking for 100 bucks an hour now, we explained that for 100 bucks you would get all night and then early afternoon from a help girl. It seems like the girls are asking for and sticking to the 500 R price, luckily, I have a rolodex for friends from the past that will still do all night. The problem is, they are all getting into their mid to late 30's and wear and tear is showing. LOL!!

Even the prive girls are asking for crazy prices!

I had one prive girl give me her number. She told me that out of the 150 R I pay for an hour in the prive, she gets 75 R. I told her to come to my centro hotel before she starts working and I would give her 200 R for an hour. (I explained that it was almost 3 X what she would get at the prive, plus, she wouldn't have to give the house a cut). She countered with 375 R an hour, plus I had to pay for her Uber from her house and to work after. All in all, it would have come up to about 525 R for the hour. I explained that it was crazy for me to pay that kind of price when I could just pay 150 R at the prive and fuck her there instead of paying 500 R to fuck in her in my hotel. No matter how hard I tried to get her to reconsider, she just couldn't understand that she was overpricing herself.

Side Note: It appears that the Roof Top Bar at Pestana doesn't have a DJ and Music on the weekends anymore. I took a date on Saturday and it was dead, only 3 couples. Still has the amazing few but its dead without the DJ.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2799657]50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.[/QUOTE]Familiarize yourself with the products in Mundo Verde. After a little trial and error, you'll get the perfect mix for your needs. There's a shop in Centro with fresh ingredients if you want to do it the way Brazilians do it. No need to ever use Big Pharma products, not in this country.

Are you serious about povidone iodine? I don't know what will happen when it is inside the pipe, but when you apply it outside, won't it color your pipe brown LOL? Or maybe your pipe is brown already so it does not matter for you?!

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2798073]
But do buy yourself a bottle of povidone iodine, the brown solution. This is the real stuff that surgeons use for disinfection of anything on the patient before cutting or shoving anything big inside. You wash your dick around and then you actually squirt this stuff up your pipe. Do it early and if you sense any burning, do it often. Like, after every time you pee you wash your glans and you squirt this stuff in by holding up the little man and with the nozzle of the bottle down, you stick it into the mouth of the urethra and you squeeze. Make sure you hold your little man on the side, so as not to squeeze your urethra shut. This stuff should NOT burn. If it burns, it means you have something. This means you really need to do this treatment. If you do it on the same day (ideally as soon as you come back to your room after the deed was done) then you should never have to worry again.[/QUOTE]

History buffs: Don't forget Lilith who featured in Mesopotamian and Judaic mythology, wife of Adam but expelled from Eden for lack of obedience to Adam. I interpret this as her love of BBJCIM rather than getting knocked up and creating God's flock.

Stinky Squid and some other authors here made some amazing posts on the care and feeding of women. Keep in mind you women of 19-24 are, as Cyndi Lauper sang interested in this: "Girls just want to have fun" rather than hanging with old dudes, many with beer guts, sometimes clingy like a puppy, horny, and often ugly with bad breath. Youth only comes around once. Imagine yourself at 20 licking out a fat old wrinkled hag for money and squirting all over you. You might do it, but you would also want to get distracted and forget it. Flakiness to us is their mental escape from their other fairly sordid transaction life. They are in it for the money. Youth for cash. We are buying an illusion just like the gambling industry or supporting a political franchise (called a party) thinking you "belong" to something. This self-delusion is a pleasant bit of play, so long as Jack knows that all play makes Jack a miserable boy, dosed up on too much dopamine. Stay fit, don't drink, don't smoke, stay away from junk food (pretty much everything) and keep up your grooming and dental care. It's not for the girls, but for YOU !

Theodora was certainly a minx that appears to have caused a great deal of sexual jealously of her biographer. Would have been fun to know her and Justinian.

Returning to Lilith and her traditional Talmudic rituals, I am carrying on my tooth enamel experiment of tonsil massage and BBJCIM as my unique contribution to American aid and medical science. I accept that my record keeping and data follow up probably lacks orthodox rigor, and may even offend feminist/woke ethical frameworks. As mentioned previously, and thanks to Vagabond, there is a Michelle Obama doppelgnger with whom I hope to re-enact Bill Clinton's pioneering work. Imagine the secret service snickering as the muffled cries from oval room and a beaming Billy exiting and the infamous cum splattered dress! Kkkkk.

My fellow Rabbi -- you sir are a mfkin literary genius!

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2800591]History buffs: Don't forget Lilith who featured in Mesopotamian and Judaic mythology, wife of Adam but expelled from Eden for lack of obedience to Adam. I interpret this as her love of BBJCIM rather than getting knocked up and creating God's flock.

Stinky Squid and some other authors here made some amazing posts on the care and feeding of women. Keep in mind you women of 19-24 are, as Cyndi Lauper sang interested in this: "Girls just want to have fun" rather than hanging with old dudes, many with beer guts, sometimes clingy like a puppy, horny, and often ugly with bad breath. Youth only comes around once. Imagine yourself at 20 licking out a fat old wrinkled hag for money and squirting all over you. You might do it, but you would also want to get distracted and forget it. Flakiness to us is their mental escape from their other fairly sordid transaction life. They are in it for the money. Youth for cash. We are buying an illusion just like the gambling industry or supporting a political franchise (called a party) thinking you "belong" to something. This self-delusion is a pleasant bit of play, so long as Jack knows that all play makes Jack a miserable boy, dosed up on too much dopamine. Stay fit, don't drink, don't smoke, stay away from junk food (pretty much everything) and keep up your grooming and dental care. It's not for the girls, but for YOU !

Theodora was certainly a minx that appears to have caused a great deal of sexual jealously of her biographer. Would have been fun to know her and Justinian.

Returning to Lilith and her traditional Talmudic rituals, I am carrying on my tooth enamel experiment of tonsil massage and BBJCIM as my unique contribution to American aid and medical science. I accept that my record keeping and data follow up probably lacks orthodox rigor, and may even offend feminist/woke ethical frameworks. As mentioned previously, and thanks to Vagabond, there is a Michelle Obama doppelgnger with whom I hope to re-enact Bill Clinton's pioneering work. Imagine the secret service snickering as the muffled cries from oval room and a beaming Billy exiting and the infamous cum splattered dress! Kkkkk.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I am planning my next trip to Rio. I will be in Rio de Janeiro from the 13 to the 16th of April. Usually I stay in Copacabana at the Pestana. See my previous reports (I travel much around the world and reports a lot). I remember people were talking in this forum about an apartment hotel in Barra de Tijuca with many working girls. Something called TA I think. Can someone please point me to this hotel? Do you think it is better than the Pestana in Copacabana? And what are your remarks for Windsor California Copacabana who got much better reviews in booking? (Pestana only got 7. 9 grade while Windsor got 9. 0).

Thanks in advance.

Aviv.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2800476]I was in 4 X4 yesterday and had a great convo with a newbie and a vet, the 3 of us were talking about the changes in Rio. For the newbie, it was paradise. It was his 3rd day in country, and he was as happy as a pig in shit. The vet and I were complaining that it seems like the freelancers are all asking for 100 bucks an hour now, we explained that for 100 bucks you would get all night and then early afternoon from a help girl. It seems like the girls are asking for and sticking to the 500 R price, luckily, I have a rolodex for friends from the past that will still do all night. The problem is, they are all getting into their mid to late 30's and wear and tear is showing. LOL!!

Even the prive girls are asking for crazy prices!

I had one prive girl give me her number. She told me that out of the 150 R I pay for an hour in the prive, she gets 75 R. I told her to come to my centro hotel before she starts working and I would give her 200 R for an hour. (I explained that it was almost 3 X what she would get at the prive, plus, she wouldn't have to give the house a cut). She countered with 375 R an hour, plus I had to pay for her Uber from her house and to work after. All in all, it would have come up to about 525 R for the hour. I explained that it was crazy for me to pay that kind of price when I could just pay 150 R at the prive and fuck her there instead of paying 500 R to fuck in her in my hotel. No matter how hard I tried to get her to reconsider, she just couldn't understand that she was overpricing herself.

Side Note: It appears that the Roof Top Bar at Pestana doesn't have a DJ and Music on the weekends anymore. I took a date on Saturday and it was dead, only 3 couples. Still has the amazing few but its dead without the DJ.[/QUOTE]This is not unique to Brazil, prices are up everywhere. General inflation has hit, but hooker prices are up the world over as the girls deal with the cost of living pressure increases too. I think you might need to adjust your expectations a bit, the girls are not being greedy.

Brazil is cheap as hell right now for the quality you get and the kind of service these women provide. Ill give you some basic comparisons.

Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). If you want her overnight, you are looking at about $220 (1200 BRL). That does not include your drinks or her drinks either, that is just your barfines and her rate. If you have a bit of a night, you are closing in on $300. Thats 1500 BRL for run of the mill gogo girls. If you want to hit the knock shops, they are running you $80-$100 and upwards depending on girl quality. If you hit the beer bars, sessions excluding drinks $45-$60. The quality of the girls has dropped off a ton too.

Philippines. So much for cheap sex. An average night on P. Burgos in Manila is costing you $180 just for barfines and the girls. Over $200 if you want them to stay beyond your second shot or 4 hours. This does not even include drinks and lady drinks. Sure, its cheaper in Angeles by about 40%. But you are in Angeles, one of the biggest shitholes in Asia and the women are so far below average that the only men happy to fuck them are the 70 year old geezers looking for bareback sex on their pensions.

Vietnam. Sessions at the Hot Tocs with decent women are running between $120-$150 for 90 minutes. Overnighters are pushing $200 plus. Yes there are bargains to be found, but Vietnam is not geared up for this and its not a straightforard place to monger.

So in saying this, the prices in Brazil are on par and even lower in some cases. The quality of the women in Brazil smokes whatever you are getting in Asia at these prices, and while Asians are nice to fuck there is simply no contest when it comes to Brazilian women. They sling ass like no one on God green earth.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800637]This is not unique to Brazil, prices are up everywhere. General inflation has hit, but hooker prices are up the world over as the girls deal with the cost of living pressure increases too. I think you might need to adjust your expectations a bit, the girls are not being greedy.

Brazil is cheap as hell right now for the quality you get and the kind of service these women provide. Ill give you some basic comparisons.

Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). If you want her overnight, you are looking at about $220 (1200 BRL). That does not include your drinks or her drinks either, that is just your barfines and her rate. If you have a bit of a night, you are closing in on $300. Thats 1500 BRL for run of the mill gogo girls. If you want to hit the knock shops, they are running you $80-$100 and upwards depending on girl quality. If you hit the beer bars, sessions excluding drinks $45-$60. The quality of the girls has dropped off a ton too.

Philippines. So much for cheap sex. An average night on P. Burgos in Manila is costing you $180 just for barfines and the girls. Over $200 if you want them to stay beyond your second shot or 4 hours. This does not even include drinks and lady drinks. Sure, its cheaper in Angeles by about 40%. But you are in Angeles, one of the biggest shitholes in Asia and the women are so far below average that the only men happy to fuck them are the 70 year old geezers looking for bareback sex on their pensions.

Vietnam. Sessions at the Hot Tocs with decent women are running between $120-$150 for 90 minutes. Overnighters are pushing $200 plus. Yes there are bargains to be found, but Vietnam is not geared up for this and its not a straightforard place to monger.

So in saying this, the prices in Brazil are on par and even lower in some cases. The quality of the women in Brazil smokes whatever you are getting in Asia at these prices, and while Asians are nice to fuck there is simply no contest when it comes to Brazilian women. They sling ass like no one on God green earth.[/QUOTE]Thanks Wayne for your comprehensive perspective, particularly with AP where my knowledge is weakest. But you are def spot on. FKK in Germany used to be 50/ hf and now it's 100/ hf and that's after entry fee and the service no where near as good as in Brazil. Kissing? Extra. DATY? Extra. Wtf. You are now paying 500 R-1000 R a half hour! And the girls and service don't compare. Brazil fucking rules. Count your blessings fellas. And fuck a Brasileira today. It's good for the economy. 😋.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800637]...
Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). ...[/QUOTE]The Asian countries are not good examples. The price has been going up way before Covid due to the increase of Asian customers. My last session at Baccara costed about 5000 baht.

I know very well on what everything cost including groceries, and wholesale price because I cook too. They have not gone up that much. Clinica price is still unchanged.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800637]This is not unique to Brazil, prices are up everywhere. General inflation has hit, but hooker prices are up the world over

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Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). If you want her overnight, you are looking at about $220 (1200 BRL). That does not include your drinks or her drinks either, that is just your barfines and her rate. If you have a bit of a night, you are closing in on $300. Thats 1500 BRL for run of the mill gogo girls. If you want to hit the knock shops, they are running you $80-$100 and upwards depending on girl quality. If you hit the beer bars, sessions excluding drinks $45-$60. The quality of the girls has dropped off a ton too.

Philippines. So much for cheap sex. An average night on P. Burgos in Manila is costing you $180 just for barfines and the girls. Over $200 if you want them to stay beyond your second shot or 4 hours. This does not even include drinks and lady drinks. Sure, its cheaper in Angeles by about 40%. But you are in Angeles, one of the biggest shitholes in Asia and the women are so far below average that the only men happy to fuck them are the 70 year old geezers looking for bareback sex on their pensions.

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So in saying this, the prices in Brazil are on par and even lower in some cases. The quality of the women in Brazil smokes whatever you are getting in Asia at these prices, and while Asians are nice to fuck there is simply no contest when it comes to Brazilian women. They sling ass like no one on God green earth.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post Wayne. You saved me from doing the same. Yeah, pussy prices have surged everywhere much more than corresponding national inflation rates have risen. Take my pre-covid favorite Go Go in Pattaya: The pricing in this bar has gone insane. My understanding was that bifurcated early barfines are something like 2,500 baht and then after midnight the barfine is 1,500 baht. But then the bar apparently instituted a 5 drink lady drink minimum before a girl is allowed to leave the bar with a customer. This is where it can get very confusing, because the 5-drink minimum is not firm and it can vary depending on the time and on apparently the bar's whim or something. I am not sure how that works.

Anyway, a relievable buddy of mine was there recently and he told me he was quoted crazy shit like a 4000 baht barfine before midnight and 2000 baht barfine after midnight. The night he went there he found a pretty spinner he liked the look of. He played along for 2 hours waiting for the magic midnight hour all the while buying his girl a bunch of lady drinks while they fooled around in the bar. Midnight came and then the girl tells him she has to have 25 LDs in order to leave with him! Total BS so he walked out in disgust and left the girl at the Pin Up. 2 wasted hours. BTW, the girl wanted 5,000 baht for ST. So, he calculated the total cost of shagging this sexy Pin Up Go Go girl would have been 2000 Baht BF + 5000 Baht ST for the girl + 6250 Baht for Lady Drinks which comes to a grand total of 13,250 baht of approximately $380 US to barfine the girl for a ST session after midnight. It would have been another 2,000 baht to do her before midnight.

Now like I said there is some real confusion over Pin UP's minimum Lady Drink Policy. Is it 5 drinks before she can leave or 25 drinks which is crazy. Is the drink minimum cumulative over the entire night I. E. If another customer has already bought the girl a couple of lady drinks, does that count towards the required minimum. Who knows! I would have to fly 24 hours to Thailand to find out. But this is the kind of BS that is going on in LOS nowadays and one of the major reasons I have not gone back since the country opened up.

Now, it should be made clear for those not acquainted with this particular GO GO, that Pin Up has the best-looking girls of any Go Go in Pattaya. IMHO and I can vouch for this fact pre-Covid and I assume it is still true from all that I have read and heard from variolous trustworthy sources like my friend even though I do think he is somehow mistaken about the minimum 25 lady drink stuff. Add to that, there are many, many less expensive alternatives in Pattaya, but I am trying to compare apples to apples, the best with the best: Sao Paulo vs Pattaya, Scandallo vs Pin Up so you can see my point which is that hyper pussy inflation is everywhere.

Lastly, it is very easy to say, well, I wouldn't go to a joint like Pin Up especially when there are so many less expensive alternatives in Pat that are still straight up as far as their bargirl policies are concerned. It is the same thing with Scandallo. There are many less expensive alternatives in Sao Paulo. My advice is go where you want and where you think you will get the most bang for your buck. I like friendly, really attractive girls in large numbers, so I gravitate toward places like Scandallo. Woe is me. KKK. The price of pretty girls is up big time worldwide and there is nothing we can do about it except to pay up and enjoy the buffet or cut back on the high end fun and go to cheaper bordellos. There is nothing wrong with SP clinicas. I liked them from the first time I stepped foot in Abbobora almost 2 years ago.

My list below is what I found from RTFF. I will be in Rio (Copa) for over 3 weeks and would like to eat healthy meals most of the time. Any insight on the places below of others would be greatly appreciated:

Zanetti Grill on Rua do Rosario.

Boteca Belmonte.

Aipo e Apim.

Bibi Sucos on Miguel Lemos.

Are churrasco type places the main option? Are there protein smoothie shops?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800637]
Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). [/QUOTE]I've been getting above average, slim girls off Thaifriendly for 1500-2000 baht ($44-58 usd) BBFSCIP. Soi 6 and most Gent clubs are still about 1000 baht ($30 usd). GoGo Girls have always been more expensive and viewed as a tourist trap.

Thai GoGo girl prices are high due to most of them now being drink queens and declining barfines. There are a number of causes for this- I'm not disputing inflation being one of them.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800637]

Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). If you want her overnight, you are looking at about $220 (1200 BRL). That does not include your drinks or her drinks either, that is just your barfines and her rate. .[/QUOTE]120 to 200 US fucking dollars for Thailand and the Philippines? Holy shit! There goes my dumb illusion that the far east was for super cheap sex!! I was thinking it was 30-50 bucks at the most. Thank goodness I never had an inkling to go to either country. I think asian women are beautiful, but I am a big booty lover and know I would be miserable in both countries!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2800780]120 to 200 US fucking dollars for Thailand and the Philippines? Holy shit! There goes my dumb illusion that the far east was for super cheap sex!! I was thinking it was 30-50 bucks at the most. Thank goodness I never had an inkling to go to either country. I think asian women are beautiful, but I am a big booty lover and know I would be miserable in both countries![/QUOTE]It's not a representative figure. Only applies to tourist trap Go Gos.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2800766]I've been getting above average, slim girls off Thaifriendly for 1500-2000 baht ($44-58 usd) BBFSCIP. Soi 6 and most Gent clubs are still about 1000 baht ($30 usd). GoGo Girls have always been more expensive and viewed as a tourist trap.

Thai GoGo girl prices are high due to most of them now being drink queens and declining barfines. There are a number of causes for this- I'm not disputing inflation being one of them.[/QUOTE]When prices go up the first thing someone who wants to find a justification for that does is talk about inflation! But plenty of times inflation doesn't have a damn thing to do with it and it's just pure greed. Take Germany for example. At the FKKs it used to be a pretty standard 50 euros per 30 minutes with BBBJ included. Well the German government, in its infinite meddling wisdom, passed a "condom law" requiring that they be used at all times at the FKKs, including for oral sex. So what did the tutes do? They banded together and said that if the guys still wanted BBBJs then the cost was going to be 50 euros more! [B]That's a 100% increase[/B] in the price for a 30 minute session and clearly has [B]nothing[/B] to do with "inflation". The tutes were already being paid [B]well[/B] at 50 euros per half hour (most people don't even make that in 1 hour) and they just took advantage of a situation to extract more for, quite frankly, not offering more. Well I hear a lot of the FKK clubs are pretty empty of customers right now. Good! Would love to hear your take on what's going on in Thailand.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2800783]It's not a representative figure. Only applies to tourist trap Go Gos.[/QUOTE]This is not true at all.

The gogos and soapies are not tourist traps, they are where the highest quality women are found and they are the best venues. The high class gentlemens clubs in Bangkok are a notch above those, but the prices are higher than the gogos and the soapies. Terma pricing is higher than clinicas, are Termas tourist traps too? Its the same logic.

Its not 1000 Baht for a session with a girl on soi 6 either, you still have to pay the barfine of 300-400 baht. Then there is the typical drink before hand, so add another 200 baht onto that. That's clinica pricing in Sao Paulo, its 250 BRL. This is before we even talk about looks and performance, and quite frankly 90% of the women on Soi 6 are unfuckable compared to what's available at the average clinica. Prices are also going up on Soi 6, with many girls asking for 1500 baht now. There are also huge issues with a lot of women who won't even barfine, they are working for salaries and drinks only and they get away with it because the bars are desperate to hold onto women.

Then there is the matter of bars closing down or struggling to find women at all. The quality has never been this bad.

Yes you can find girls off Thai Friendly for 1500-2000 THB. You can find women at those sorts of prices on Photo Accompaniments too.

Those prices you mention are also Pattaya prices. They are not BKK prices. The women in BKK are a notch above, but the average freelancer for a one shot ST is asking for 3000 baht now. Sometimes you can get them down to 2500. You are not finding women for less than that unless they are old or very plain. So at roughly 400 real for one shot with a freelancer, how does that compare to the prices of the entry level escorts and freelancers roaming around Rio?

The point I am making is that Brazil is not expensive. Price wise its on par with Thailand, which is considered one of the cheaper destinations in the world with a large a large, well organizes sex industry. The girls in Brazil are not the only ones pushing prices up, everyone around the world is as they deal with inflation too. Where Brazil is an absolute home run is that not only is the cost reasonable and the industry large, Brazilian women are WAY more attractive on average and they also outfuck the Thai women.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2800780]120 to 200 US fucking dollars for Thailand and the Philippines? Holy shit! There goes my dumb illusion that the far east was for super cheap sex!! I was thinking it was 30-50 bucks at the most. Thank goodness I never had an inkling to go to either country. I think Asian women are beautiful, but I am a big booty lover and know I would be miserable in both countries![/QUOTE]In Philippines, you can get cheaper options. The quality is poor though. Very poor. You have to hunt hard, and the better looking girls are charging a premium too because there is competition for them. Thailand has always had the Japaneses throwing money around, in the Philippines (particularly Angeles) its the Koreans. 2 guys will walk in and barfine 4-5 girls before 8 pm. A few of these guys roll in and the gogos are wastelands.

Where Philippines shines is if you are on the ground for a long time. You don't focus on the bar girls and pros, you focus on the semi pros, regular girls and the ones who want to find a sugar daddy. That gives you access to the top 1%-2% of Filipina women, and those women are something else.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2800818]When prices go up the first thing someone who wants to find a justification for that does is talk about inflation! But plenty of times inflation doesn't have a damn thing to do with it and it's just pure greed. Take Germany for example. At the FKKs it used to be a pretty standard 50 euros per 30 minutes with BBBJ included. Well the German government, in its infinite meddling wisdom, passed a "condom law" requiring that they be used at all times at the FKKs, including for oral sex. So what did the tutes do? They banded together and said that if the guys still wanted BBBJs then the cost was going to be 50 euros more! [B]That's a 100% increase[/B] in the price for a 30 minute session and clearly has [B]nothing[/B] to do with "inflation". The tutes were already being paid [B]well[/B] at 50 euros per half hour (most people don't even make that in 1 hour) and they just took advantage of a situation to extract more for, quite frankly, not offering more. Well I hear a lot of the FKK clubs are pretty empty of customers right now. Good! Would love to hear your take on what's going on in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Its been 50 euros for a 30 minute session for over 15 years. What does 50 euros even buy you these days? Is everyone still earning what they earned 15 years ago?

They are not working a production line or retail job, they are selling their bodies and taking loads from men they often do not find attractive at all, and still put on some sort of show. This is a profession that takes a serious toll on all women too and the time they can earn is quite short.

As always the market will set the price. If the women at the FKK's in Germany or Gogos in Thailand are overcharging compared to other options are in the same city, then eventually they will have to adjust too. Prices are going up everywhere though, its not just one country. Inflation is real and the hookers live in the same world we do.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2800818]When prices go up the first thing someone who wants to find a justification for that does is talk about inflation! But plenty of times inflation doesn't have a damn thing to do with it and it's just pure greed. Take Germany for example. At the FKKs it used to be a pretty standard 50 euros per 30 minutes with BBBJ included. Well the German government, in its infinite meddling wisdom, passed a "condom law" requiring that they be used at all times at the FKKs, including for oral sex. So what did the tutes do? They banded together and said that if the guys still wanted BBBJs then the cost was going to be 50 euros more! [B]That's a 100% increase[/B] in the price for a 30 minute session and clearly has [B]nothing[/B] to do with "inflation". The tutes were already being paid [B]well[/B] at 50 euros per half hour (most people don't even make that in 1 hour) and they just took advantage of a situation to extract more for, quite frankly, not offering more. Well I hear a lot of the FKK clubs are pretty empty of customers right now. Good! Would love to hear your take on what's going on in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Like he said, this is only what popular Go-Go's charge. They were aiming for the same $100+ in 2010's.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2800818]When prices go up the first thing someone who wants to find a justification for that does is talk about inflation! But plenty of times inflation doesn't have a damn thing to do with it and it's just pure greed. Would love to hear your take on what's going on in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Well it is exactly as you and Rak have said. It is pretty much greed and gogo bars where you see the price increase ridiculously. I have never been a gogo bar guy. To me they have always been a ripoff when I can see the same girl in a disco when she finishes work and get her for 1/3 of the price back then and these days 1/6 of the price since gogo prices have gone up so much. I have never understood the big fascination of getting a chick from there. I was DJ in an Atlanta strip club where chicks get naked and bust it all the way open my last year in high school so, I am really like meh when I see a chick on stage shuffling around in a bikini or whatever. It most certainly does not make me want to come out of the pocket $200; and especially when I saw her at the market in her pajamas getting food before she went to work. She was just a normal chick like everybody else that would have accepted $30 for short time. But when the lights start flashing and the drinks start pouring guys in a split second think the pussy is worth more than it is.

But for the last 14 years I have been paying the same $125/ month for my place in Thailand. I have given the taxis the same $30 back and forth from the airport. I am giving chicks the same $30 for all night and sometimes I bump it up to $35.

Now some things have gone up. For instance it used to take $4 to fill up my scooter, but these days it takes $5. It used to cost $2 to wash it, but now it costs $2. 30. Even the little pick up truck buses here that take you around have been 30 cent forever. I vaguely think it was 15 cent when I first started coming 18 years ago but I could be wrong and it may have been the same 30 cent all along. There is absolutely nothing around here that has come close to doubling in price as the prices at gogos would have you believe. When shit goes up around here it is a subtle 10 or 15 cents, not $100.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800849]Its been 50 euros for a 30 minute session for over 15 years. What does 50 euros even buy you these days? Is everyone still earning what they earned 15 years ago?

They are not working a production line or retail job, they are selling their bodies and taking loads from men they often do not find attractive at all, and still put on some sort of show. This is a profession that takes a serious toll on all women too and the time they can earn is quite short.

As always the market will set the price. If the women at the FKK's in Germany or Gogos in Thailand are overcharging compared to other options are in the same city, then eventually they will have to adjust too. Prices are going up everywhere though, its not just one country. Inflation is real and the hookers live in the same world we do.[/QUOTE]You didn't say one thing that justifies a [B]100%[/B] increase. Absolutely nothing. I didn't say no increase was justified. But 100% is outrageous and unacceptable. Take a look at the Sharks thread these days. The law of supply and demand at work. Just say no!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2800895]Well it is exactly as you and Rak have said. It is pretty much greed and gogo bars where you see the price increase ridiculously. ...[/QUOTE]It's the higher price places, not just gogo. It's the way they add on many other requirements. BF has increased, then there maybe minimum drink order, all these add up.

Comparing TF to gogo is not a fair comparison. You have to compare to the price of TF in the past.

Though with Michelle Noemie Bilas Obama I was all creampie all the time, 4 x on average pernoite, which was weekly, in Motel Lips in Centro in a suite with hidromassagem. I have some pictures around somewhere.

To paraphrase the former chief executive of estados unidos (slightly edited), while looking into the camera and shaking my finger, "I did have sex with that woman".

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2800607]My fellow Rabbi -- you sir are a mfkin literary genius![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800846]

The point I am making is that Brazil is not expensive. Price wise its on par with Thailand, which is considered one of the cheaper destinations in the world with a large a large, well organizes sex industry. The girls in Brazil are not the only ones pushing prices up, everyone around the world is as they deal with inflation too. Where Brazil is an absolute home run is that not only is the cost reasonable and the industry large, Brazilian women are WAY more attractive on average and they also outfuck the Thai women.[/QUOTE]I'd mostly agree with the first part but I do think Thailand has an edge in terms of ease and options. I like Brazilian girls too but if you like slim girls and are nor fixated in bunda, Thailand also has the edge. It's harder to find BBFSCIP in Brazil, but I will concede that Brazilian service is unparalleled. All comes down to what you prefer personally.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2801009]I... It's harder to find BBFSCIP in Brazil....[/QUOTE]It's only harder from the girls in the club. This girl teased me after.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800847]
Where Philippines shines is if you are on the ground for a long time. You don't focus on the bar girls and pros, you focus on the semi pros, regular girls and the ones who want to find a sugar daddy. That gives you access to the top 1%-2% of Filipina women, and those women are something else.[/QUOTE]This is absolutely true but also requires a longer time commitment, 1-2 months max. Filipinas from PL, SA and Tinder are notorious for agreeing to meet and then not showing up, etc so there is a time sink that requires a longer stay.

Apologies to all about getting off topic in the Rio thread.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2801046]

Apologies to all about getting off topic in the Rio thread.[/QUOTE]Well, its to be expected when you get a bunch of people who have never been to Brazil in the first place gathered in a conversation about it.

BTW I will be in Rio for a concert at Circo Voador on Saturday night, March 25, and will be staying in Lapa (Ick!) until Tuesday morning. Any real mongers in Rio want to meet up for a drink or some coffee? Shoot me a PM.

WayneRoberts and others provided great info on LOS and PH prices. BR is the go to, but don't overlook eastern europe. The usual rules, avoid tourist traps like GoGo bars, and yes the PH is a depressing shithole. I agree that BR girls are better looking, way more variety and better in bed.

Brazil is a great place for many reasons. It's currency is severely undervalued. It's people are nice and it has an educated population and 1st world health care system if you need it. Housing is cheap for gringos, provided you stay away from the crowded tourist traps. Food wise the restaurants are stingy with vegetables, it follows a cultural thing from what I can tell. Get put of the tourist traps and the solid upper middle class residential places, I've covered a few spots my last posts, including the right ingredients (Cachaça) for a caipirinha.

Or get an apartment, a frypan, shop for fresh food and cook. I have my own place up in the hills and even my own vege garden. It took a lot of effort to source farmers markets and a trusted chain of organic food, some it distant I have sent as freight. This is to make sure the girls get quality BBJCIM, a small sacrifice on my part. By my estimates, I have total sexual satisfaction and massages for at a median of under $USD 300 a week. USA is a rip-off on every metric. There are direct and cheap flights from BR to Europe for a change in scenery and winter sports.

What is your recommendation for healthcare for long term ex pats.

I am looking for a primary care for colonoscopy and gastro pain screening in particular now, but general preventative healthcare in general going forward.

I have been recommended health plans here some which price out at 2000 r or so per month. I forget the brand names, but they have a few in the basement of guanabarra shoor ppping.

Also how is the property purchase working? Any regrets or pros and cons.

Pm me directly if you like.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2801082]It's people are nice and it has an educated population and 1st world health care system if you need it. Housing is cheap for gringos, provided you stay away from the crowded tourist traps. Food wise the restaurants are stingy with vegetables, it follows a cultural thing from what I can tell. Get put of the tourist traps and the solid upper middle class residential places, I've covered a few spots my last posts, including the right ingredients (Cachaa) for a caipirinha[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2801082]Brazil is a great place for many reasons. It's people are nice and it has an educated population...[/QUOTE]Educated population? Brazil's main problem is the lack of education. Education in school to improve their chances of getting better jobs and get out of poverty, and also behavioral education to learn good manners. The average brazilian throws litter everywhere, doesn't respects queues, speaks too loud, always comes late, cough and sneeze in open air and misbehaves in traffic.

Michelle Noemie Bilas Obama in the Hidromassagem at Motel Lips.

And to answer the inevitable question, no Rabbi Vagabundo does not pimp out his harem, but he is glad to lead the faithful to where Michelle Obama can be found, that is the darkside and centro trash termas like 116 the former secret terma, and all the other little hole in the all prives, and boates around 116, around the corner, down the street, etc, etc. Join me for a prive / terma run in centro at Cinelandia starbucks one day and we will find many like her for the cost of walking 10 kilometers, which is healthy for a man, anyway.

If you are looking for a few good negras, they are easy to find here or on [URL]gparena.net[/URL]. For example, rebecca at [URL]Darkroom.com.br[/URL].

The cost for the suite with hidro was 140 r for 12 hours. A picture is worth a thousand words. Nothing like the feeling of that hidro on the legs and feet and the FLOTUS doppelganger gagging and willing to give up all her holes for creampies on demand all night, at zero dark thirty when wood is had, and a negra pussy is there for a good ride of another half hour for a total of 3 or 4 hours of hotbox yoga cardio.

Bring weed for the girls who being 20 eat endless lips burgers, which is not healthy for a man who biologically could be her grandfather.

As for Rabbinical references to bloodlines, see The Red Tent for a inside the working girl house literary work of women who are wives, concubines, daughters, etc.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2801153]Educated population? Brazil's main problem is the lack of education.[/QUOTE]Everything is relative. Take a trip to the Dominican Republic and you will have a whole new outlook and respect for Brazil's educated population. The people in Brazil are in general light years ahead of other Latin American countries.

Brazil along with EUA has the highest GINI index, which is the spread between rich and poor.

At the high end, the Brazilian ruling class seems to have good education like the federal universities and the high end religious schools, but from what I understand, the problem is getting in which means standardized testing like the American SATs.

Anyway, I don't disagree with senor sperto who is always correct, but I just throw in my dois centavos. Senor Sperto certainly has more experience in Brazil than anyone on this board, and senor PM, whose sophisticated economic insights are a welcome change from the usual chatter about repetitive topics.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2801153]Educated population? Brazil's main problem is the lack of education. Education in school to improve their chances of getting better jobs and get out of poverty, and also behavioral education to learn good manners. The average Brazilian throws litter everywhere, doesn't respects queues, speaks too loud, always comes late, cough and sneeze in open air and misbehaves in traffic.[/QUOTE]

I should have qualified that. Sperto is correct, but what he describes also applies to the USA: idiotic tribal / cultural wars rather than economically rational choices and critical thinking skills. Widespread ignorance, insincerity, lack of manners and get rich quick mentality. Now there is grammerly for those who cannot spell* or learn grammar I learned in grade 3 at age 8. As for reading a map or counting back change, good luck.

I expect this is true anywhere. After all, modern crony capitalism is a sheep and a wolf. Liberty is a well armed sheep (ie: critical thinking, fiscally conservative and self disciplined) and a wolf. Yet Brazilians I encountered were genuinely nice and had a sense of family and community, notwithstanding being chaotic at the edges. I'd rather have heart than shrewd, well mannered cunning and smooth talkers. Vagabundo's

Michelle Obama picture looks delicious. All holes available and skilled at BBJCIM.

BR has a huge choice of beautiful young women in all shapes and colors delivered with passion and all at a fair price. BR healthcare is like anywhere: doctors work as information silos and try to push unnecessary or harmful services and drugs they get a de facto commission for. They are business people, not some white coat priest looking out for you. You have to take care of yourself and spend a lot of time studying biochemistry and looking after your own health, starting with nutrition and exercise. There is no pill for decades of neglect. BR drug prices are fair and doctors are quite affordable to pay out of pocket.

The USA has us brainwashed to get health insurance or else.

* lots of mangled sentences last posting. No excuse, it was 3 am and I was careless.

Is Easter big holiday in Brazil? I plan on going on around Easter.

Are spots open in Rio during Easter weekend (Friday, Saturday)? I plan on going on around Easter.

The week in baseball.

So, last week, I guess I fucked 8 to 10 times.

Saturday, the sabbath, we the faithful worshipped at the centro prives. I went there with a fellow ISGer. Nani, Monique were at Emporio. But we went down to second floor. I picked marina, a nice negra, and my wingman picked a petite and hot morena. Emporio has good quality. I had fucked a regular already in the morning. She comes by 4 pernoites / perdias for 800 reais.

So then we went over to Darkroom.

We then picked our girl, or in our case, I picked Laila -- Layla, you got me down on my knees. We 69 ed, fucked in all positions. The cost in Emporio and in Darkroom is 100 for a half hour.

Then we walked over to Lapa to bar do peixe which is excellent. Cheap too, 80 r for food for two.

Then another ISGer joined us (send me a PM to be added to the whatsapp group).

We took an uber over to Motel Malaga, where he is staying. He has a suite with hidro and sauna for 330 r a day. He actually likes living in Malaga, as I did in 2013. I highly recommend this. Malaga is a great base of operation, easy walk to VM, and to massagemtijuca and the tijuca prives. Indeed, Tijuca is a good 'hood, middle class, one has to be a good jew observent of all the rules, and to make friends, but obviously much cheaper. Let's put it this way, the manager of 4 x4, Vitor Ribeiro, lives in Tijuca in a 4 bedroom place he pays 5000 r a month for, with his harem. So there it is.

We had some drinks only at Aconchega Carioca, which is a great restaurant and pricier.

Sunday, and a few other days, I had a regular, Nina DePonca come over with her big tits, big mulata tits, and she gives great massages, and I have her well trained as a submissive concubine. I pay her 300 r for 4 hours of unlimited suck fuck deep tissue massage.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2801836]
We took an uber over to Motel Malaga, where he is staying. He has a suite with hidro and sauna for 330 r a day. He actually likes living in Malaga, as I did in 2013. I highly recommend this. Malaga is a great base of operation, easy walk to VM, and to massagemtijuca and the tijuca prives. Indeed, Tijuca is a good 'hood, middle class, one has to be a good jew observent of all the rules, and to make friends, but obviously much cheaper. Let's put it this way, the manager of 4 x4, Vitor Ribeiro, lives in Tijuca in a 4 bedroom place he pays 5000 r a month for, with his harem. So there it is..[/QUOTE]Great report man!

Exiting customs at GiG, made my way past the touts only to get ripped off by one outside. He is a short, frail, older man. Got him to agree to 100 real. No problem. I had no cash, no real, and I couldn't see any atms. Sorry, I didn't RTFF.

He accepted cards and was selling SIM cards. Verizon charges 10/ day. His sim price was 80 real /16 us. I had paid 10 us in Thailand so I didn't care about paying a little extra because I needed to desperately check some emails.

Anyway, this mf told the driver 260 all in. I found out when I checked my card charges online.

Beware of the BS at the airport. Already, I'm pissed about allowing myself to get played. That's cool. I'm on full alert now.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2802157]Exiting customs at GiG, made my way past the touts only to get ripped off by one outside. He is a short, frail, older man. Got him to agree to 100 real. Anyway, this mf told the driver 260 all in.[/QUOTE]You got him to agree to 100 reais for what? 260 all in? 260 for what? What does all in mean? A SIM card costs 10 reais. In Thailand a SIM card is less than $1.

There used to be a website where you could see pictures of the 4 x 4 girls, think it was different to their main site. Does anyone have a link for this or was that section removed?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2802175]You got him to agree to 100 reais for what? 260 all in? 260 for what? What does all in mean? A SIM card costs 10 reais. In Thailand a SIM card is less than $1.[/QUOTE]100 reais was for the taxi to Copa. I was good with that.

The sim was 80 reais. That was already I rip off, but he added 80 more reais when my card was charged.

BTW, my sim in BKK from the mall was 300 baht with data.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2802157]Exiting customs at GiG, made my way past the touts only to get ripped off by one outside. He is a short, frail, older man. Got him to agree to 100 real. No problem. I had no cash, no real, and I couldn't see any atms. Sorry, I didn't RTFF.

He accepted cards and was selling SIM cards. Verizon charges 10/ day. His sim price was 80 real /16 us. I had paid 10 us in Thailand so I didn't care about paying a little extra because I needed to desperately check some emails.

Anyway, this mf told the driver 260 all in. I found out when I checked my card charges online.

Beware of the BS at the airport. Already, I'm pissed about allowing myself to get played. That's cool. I'm on full alert now.[/QUOTE]The GIG WiFi didn't work on my phone when I landed, so no Uber. Interestingly, it worked fine on the departure day.

I was on the departure floor, so got out and got immediately accosted by a cabby who was about to head back to his car probably after just dropping off a fare. He wanted 150 to Barra Hyatt. I countered with 80. We had a few laughs, he agreed to 110. I wasn't in the mood to waste any more precious vacation time to save $2-3, so off we go. On the way there, he begged me to let him fill up on the way. Managed to steal about 15 minutes of my time, LOL.

I tell you this: I would happily pay 80 reais to buy a SIM card at GIG to avoid a trip to a store and wasting another 1-2 hours of my life. Getting a SIM card in BarraShopping was relatively painless for me this time, but if time is money, then it's twice so on vacation. You shouldn't feel bad about it.

That said, if I were you, I'd totally dispute that 260 reais BS with the card issuer. That's fraud, pure and simple.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2802157]Exiting customs at GiG, made my way past the touts only to get ripped off by one outside. He is a short, frail, older man. Got him to agree to 100 real. No problem. I had no cash, no real, and I couldn't see any atms. Sorry, I didn't RTFF.

He accepted cards and was selling SIM cards. Verizon charges 10/ day. His sim price was 80 real /16 us. I had paid 10 us in Thailand so I didn't care about paying a little extra because I needed to desperately check some emails.

Anyway, this mf told the driver 260 all in. I found out when I checked my card charges online.

Beware of the BS at the airport. Already, I'm pissed about allowing myself to get played. That's cool. I'm on full alert now.[/QUOTE]You always need to give yourself more time before you exit the airport. Always first find the ATM (s), there always are ATMs in airports. In GIG they are upstairs, ask and you shall find.

Then, if you have no SIM card yet, you can use airport WiFi to get your Uber. I don't bother with taxis, they are such liars and rip-offs. The best I'll do is the 99 app which is common in Brazil and useful as a backup when Uber croaks as it often does, randomly.

As for SIM cards it can be a bit tricky in Brazil, because you'll have to put a CPF and perhaps RG in to enable them. I remember on my first ever arrival in Brazil, I got a TIM SIM card and I actually had to find a fake CPF on the internet to enable my internet on that SIM card. But on the street you can by ready to go SIM cards also. They should be around 5 or 15 reais. I usually charge with 100 reais at any pharmacy. Since I have a CPF and my number for over 10 years now, I don't have recent experience with getting started from scratch. On first arrival in Brazil, I would agree, SIM card is the biggest problem. (As opposed to Thailand where you have several SIM card stands in the airport, and the 90 day unlimited internet of Dtac was just 900 baht, that is amazing value for money.).

So therefore, always take ample time at the airport, use the free WiFi when it exists and get your Uber organized. Once you are outside, you're on your own and subject to lots of cheats. Brazilian taxi dudes are scoundrels. They rip off little old ladies all the time, it's not just the gringo who gets screwed.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2801836]Malaga is a great base of operation, easy walk to VM[/QUOTE]I'm curious about VM. Long time ago it was said it was the lowest of the places. Now recently I heard more about specific bars there. I had driven through by car many years ago and didn't see much. Can you give more of a run-down how it is there, were specifically to go? I have been in Malaga too a couple of times. Only slightly sketchy neighborhood. But for access to VM probably the best base.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2801090]What is your recommendation for healthcare for long term ex pats.

I am looking for a primary care for colonoscopy and gastro pain screening in particular now, but general preventative healthcare in general going forward.

I have been recommended health plans here some which price out at 2000 r or so per month. I forget the brand names, but they have a few in the basement of guanabarra shoor ppping.

Also how is the property purchase working? Any regrets or pros and cons.

Pm me directly if you like.[/QUOTE]I thought you were a Brazil specialist?

I do all health care out of pocket. My colonoscopy I did in Colombia, Bogota. I find healthcare services are a bit more expensive in Brazil, so I do health care work in Colombia or India. This is why I don't have insurance, for over 10 years, because I can so much easier do things I need in these two countries and it is cheaper than paying those rip-off premiums.

Health plans in Brazil are -- as most things -- very bureaucratic. Early in the CoViD outbreak, we tried to sneak into some health plans quickly, but they required we show our SUS card, and to get a SUS card is next to impossible, not because you're not eligible, but because you have to show proof of residence and bullshit like this, and even then it takes years for them to visit you to enroll you. Just forget it. The good thing in Brazil is, if you really have some terminal or cancerous or even hepatitis see shit that requires long term costly treatment, you could still do it at the SUS. But for the simple stuff, just go private and have it done. I do my own lab checkups in low-bureaucracy labs (that don't need prescriptions).

Property purchase: first you need a CPF. Then you need to make sure you always research the property ownership history, the matricula, and you need to get all the certidoes negativas of all the sellers, check seller family status, if it is anything related to inheritance it can become a nightmare. Sometimes you buy stuff as posse, meaning there is no title. Stuff in communidades (encroachments) have no title. In general, you just have to contemplate what property ownership means on a deep level. Don't just believe in the magic fairy-dust of signed and stamped papers. Know the place, know who might come and claim some right to it, know the seller, etc. Etc. If you have a clean title sale, you do an escritura publica. In fact you must do an escritura publica, a simple private purchase and sales contract may condemn you to do usucapiao in the future to get a proper registration in the registro de imoveis. Once you have the escritura, where you have to pay the ITBI (real estate transfer taxes) you go to the registro de immoveis, where they might again fuzz about something lacking in the escritura and you might get a run-around. Better to do that right away and work it out with the seller.

Recreio is far but actually quite enjoyable. The beach has some good surf spots. It is, however, not clean as I had recently experienced. I say Barra somewhere in the middle was the cleanest. But anyway, what I like about Recreio is the "communidade" style living, I. E. , lots of small shops everywhere, you can get everywhere on foot. Barra on the other hand is a suburbial wasteland. And while Copacabana is a mixed urban neighborhood, the communidade style of Recreio is just more personal and lively, even though you might find it a bit scary if you think "favela".

Now the service provider scene is not bad at all. I see a lot of decent offerings, and I just was with a certain Nanda who promises a Facefuck (not Nanda Facefuck of the Centro, who I ended up always missing out on). This Nanda was quite alright. It was nice to be sure to talk with her directly, not with some middle-man. It was in an apartment building on Gilka Machado, number 97 (the numbering is totally weird on that road). As I waited for her to come down and open the main door, I saw 2 pretty chicks come out. Then I saw one more. I think there are several apartments there. If I didn't have my GF over tomorrow night I would try a few more options, I have a lot of confidence that they turn out true too.

I will also now give away the two places in Jacarepagua, one is in Verano Stay, Rua Escultor Camargo number 50. They don't treat their girls particularly well, but I feel they have nice ones and their pictures they post are not too far from the truth. Anyway, I found a really sweet girl there who I stole away from the place, so now I probably fell in disgrace with them anyway.

The other place that I tried all the girls of one week was in Rua Geminiano Goes 975. This is a bit difficult to reach. I found every girl there was about what I could expect from the photos. Of course the personality of each is different and I had it good with two of the 4 I tried, while the other 2 were not false, I just didn't have great chemistry with them. I guess unless you are in Jacarepagua anyway it might not be worth going there as you have other options, but it's an option if you are there. The nice thing about that place is that it is a true 24 hours place, that is, any time of day and night, morning and Sundays, you can message and while you're not talking with the girl, the dude will wake her up and call her to duty if she is not otherwise busy. 120 the hour is definitely not too much.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2802336]I do all health care out of pocket. My colonoscopy I did in Colombia, Bogota. I find healthcare services are a bit more expensive in Brazil, so I do health care work in Colombia or India. This is why I don't have insurance, for over 10 years, because I can so much easier do things I need in these two countries and it is cheaper than paying those rip-off premiums.
[/QUOTE]And God forbid what if you find that you have colon cancer? Are you going to pay for the cost of treatment out-of-pocket too? I have no idea how much that would cost in India, Colombia, or Brazil, but I do know that going out-of-pocket for a serious illness in the States bankrupts many a family. The premiums can be stiff yes, but the total bill is even worse, so I keep my insurance!

Mr. Squid is completely correct. Bits of paper about land are just that. Property is the ability to call the cops to remove anyone you don't like* and exclusively occupy whilst you are the owner. Even that is subject to endless claims (especially in the USA) by anything from tax liens to bullshit lawsuits (especially in the USA where lawyers are legally able (and encouraged by the judiciary) to charge a commission on bullshit claims).

The better way is to pay the $ to good lawyers and own via a corporation, nominees, and various asset protection devices. Don't be a cheap charlie: the entire system exists to fleece people except for banks who are not only protected and make the laws to suit themselves but are are immune from folly and 99% of the time able to be bailed out.

He is also correct about paying out of pocket ad hoc. Most doctors operate in an information silo and do not have a holistic picture. Many are out of date or ignorant of other countries where certain drugs and treatments are available (or don't say to protect their meal ticket). They spread fear, doubt and uncertainty to protect their franchise, especially medical tourism (competition). This requires you to spend a fair bit of time to learn biochemistry, anatomy, do exercise etc. There is no set and forget, outsourcing your care or a magic pill. Drug prices in Brazil and India are a fraction of the price in the USA and its made up numbers.

The Rabbi would be proud of Vagabundo. Reminds me of an old Frank Zappa song "Jewish Princess". The big tits deep tissue massage lady to relive stiffness and swelling sounds like just the ticket after my Bill Clinton oval office re-eanctment with the Michell Obama doppleganger.

* Does not apply to woke cities in USA. May not work in certain local political franchises or corruption. Check local conditions. Other exclusions and exceptions may apply.

As I cover in the most recent update to BUbba Boy's guide, one can get a sim WITHOUT CPF by going to central station for 10 r for claro, 16 for VIVO (better internet).

PM me to be added to whatsapp group.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2802329]You always need to give yourself more time before you exit the airport. Always first find the ATM (s), there always are ATMs in airports. In GIG they are upstairs, ask and you shall find.

Then, if you have no SIM card yet, you can use airport WiFi to get your Uber. I don't bother with taxis, they are such liars and rip-offs. The best I'll do is the 99 app which is common in Brazil and useful as a backup when Uber croaks as it often does, randomly.

As for SIM cards it can be a bit tricky in Brazil, because you'll have to put a CPF and perhaps RG in to enable them. I remember on my first ever arrival in Brazil, I got a TIM SIM card and I actually had to find a fake CPF on the internet to enable my internet on that SIM card. But on the street you can by ready to go SIM cards also. They should be around 5 or 15 reais. I usually charge with 100 reais at any pharmacy. Since I have a CPF and my number for over 10 years now, I don't have recent experience with getting started from scratch. On first arrival in Brazil, I would agree, SIM card is the biggest problem. (As opposed to Thailand where you have several SIM card stands in the airport, and the 90 day unlimited internet of Dtac was just 900 baht, that is amazing value for money.).

So therefore, always take ample time at the airport, use the free WiFi when it exists and get your Uber organized. Once you are outside, you're on your own and subject to lots of cheats. Brazilian taxi dudes are scoundrels. They rip off little old ladies all the time, it's not just the gringo who gets screwed.[/QUOTE]

Senor squid,

Obrigado.

I am fully covered as a lieutenant commander, SWISS NAVY, Retired in Lugano, but the Italian Mafia has been hunting my family for generations after we got Pope Pius laid with a cheap Sicilian hooker and had to whack the broad in a boat off of lake Como, so here I sit, in Barra, where I am waiting for the paperwork from some insufferable Chinese MD ***** in Lugano to reimburse me for a colonoscopy, which at the age of 74 I am told I should get, along 36 months of Viagra, two per month, along with the ambien, adderal, and medical marijuana, the good stuff that comes in up the asses of Brazilian porn stars on the United Flight out of Dallas every week, you know the ones, right?

Anyway, I have gone to the UPA with Nina Deponca who in addition to taking my 21 uncut centimeters of German Italian Asian bratwurst up her ass on order also speaks good Portoguese, English, Romanch, French, Italian, German, and who got me in front of a doctor to get referrals for colonscopy, endoscopy, and various related insults to my aging manhood. I never had so much as a working girl's tongue up my virgin asshole before the age of 54, and I still recoil from the thought of some person sticking a camera up my ass even if it is a life saving measure. I insist on having a full nursing staff of 4 x4 tier 1 nurses to feed me ketamine off of their lactating breasts with some po branca on order to revive me as the procedure is done. I have to date taken care of my Roman emporer (Caligula was my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grteat great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather, and I am told he and his cousins took great pleasure in nailing that bastard jew jesus to the cross personally along with their commanders, just for the fun of it, which is of note to me me now as I am converting to Judaism, and have only gotten as far as Genesis books 36 and 37, for the pornographic story of Joseph and the dream coat, which I will recite in Hebrew at temple next to the supermarket in Barra, that's all I can say, you know the Jihadis would love to blow up another temple here in SOUTHCOM).

I will quite my kvetching, and come to the point. It would cost $525 USD to get the colonoscopy, which translates from 2100 r and 525 r and 80 r for each biopsia over at the lab headquarters at Av. Armando Lombardi, 1000 - Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22640-000.

I would rather spend the $525 over at 4 x4 or VM giving young 18 year old Brazilian women colonoscopies with my Rocco-esque bratwurst, which is uncut, and will remain so, even if I get a bar mitzvah (the jewish women say it is better for the anal, for which they pay me extra, and being a good Jew, I never turn down another $500 r per hour for my go go boy MD services).

I digress. I am a Jew. Almost. I slept badly due to bad dreams about the Mafia coming over lake como with their brazilian strippers spread eagled with their asses with buttplugs asking me to fuck them in the ass like Annette Schwartz, who being a German speaks just like my sainted mother. I must get into see Doctor Freud, but at this point, he just keeps sending me to VM to find a blond to fuck up the ass.

Property? You are a genius. [URL]Economist.com[/URL] says one should just rent, and I concur.

/ s / Johan Sebastian Von Vagabundo, IV, Lieutenant Commander, SWISS NAVY, Retired, Pagan Chaplain to the Rio de Janeiro Fire Department, at your service.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2802336]I thought you were a Brazil specialist?

I do all health care out of pocket. My colonoscopy I did in Colombia, Bogota. I find healthcare services are a bit more expensive in Brazil, so I do health care work in Colombia or India. This is why I don't have insurance, for over 10 years, because I can so much easier do things I need in these two countries and it is cheaper than paying those rip-off premiums.

Health plans in Brazil are -- as most things -- very bureaucratic. Early in the CoViD outbreak, we tried to sneak into some health plans quickly, but they required we show our SUS card, and to get a SUS card is next to impossible, not because you're not eligible, but because you have to show proof of residence and bullshit like this, and even then it takes years for them to visit you to enroll you. Just forget it. The good thing in Brazil is, if you really have some terminal or cancerous or even hepatitis see shit that requires long term costly treatment, you could still do it at the SUS. But for the simple stuff, just go private and have it done. I do my own lab checkups in low-bureaucracy labs (that don't need prescriptions).

Property purchase: first you need a CPF. Then you need to make sure you always research the property ownership history, the matricula, and you need to get all the certidoes negativas of all the sellers, check seller family status, if it is anything related to inheritance it can become a nightmare. Sometimes you buy stuff as posse, meaning there is no title. Stuff in communidades (encroachments) have no title. In general, you just have to contemplate what property ownership means on a deep level. Don't just believe in the magic fairy-dust of signed and stamped papers. Know the place, know who might come and claim some right to it, know the seller, etc. Etc. If you have a clean title sale, you do an escritura publica. In fact you must do an escritura publica, a simple private purchase and sales contract may condemn you to do usucapiao in the future to get a proper registration in the registro de imoveis. Once you have the escritura, where you have to pay the ITBI (real estate transfer taxes) you go to the registro de immoveis, where they might again fuzz about something lacking in the escritura and you might get a run-around. Better to do that right away and work it out with the seller.[/QUOTE]

This should go on reports of distinction for Recreio and Jacaparagua, which are home to Renzo Gracie, Paptinho and OGlobo studios, ie, the epicenter culturally of Brazil if the Swiss Government wants to take over Brazil, which it does, please don't cut and paste this to any law enforcement or intelligence agencies. Thanks.

I had tried to check out that Gilka Machado 97 for prives with a ISGer. It was based on some local boards. Since we both trained martial arts, we were confident walking about, but did not find the actual prive. There are obviously many providers, some on the trans side, walking up and down that Gilka Machado from Posto 12 to that address. Also in that area on the beach rood from Posto 10 to 11, one can find many SW, south east LA style, but these are white girls with big asses and 15,000 insta followers from some town out of rio picking up 150 r for an hour at a local motel. Have a uber driver take you.

Thanks for the intel. The Swiss Government will be glad to credit your account!

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2802339]Recreio is far but actually quite enjoyable. The beach has some good surf spots. It is, however, not clean as I had recently experienced. I say Barra somewhere in the middle was the cleanest. But anyway, what I like about Recreio is the "communidade" style living, I. E. , lots of small shops everywhere, you can get everywhere on foot. Barra on the other hand is a suburbial wasteland. And while Copacabana is a mixed urban neighborhood, the communidade style of Recreio is just more personal and lively, even though you might find it a bit scary if you think "favela".

Now the service provider scene is not bad at all. I see a lot of decent offerings, and I just was with a certain Nanda who promises a Facefuck (not Nanda Facefuck of the Centro, who I ended up always missing out on). This Nanda was quite alright. It was nice to be sure to talk with her directly, not with some middle-man. It was in an apartment building on Gilka Machado, number 97 (the numbering is totally weird on that road). As I waited for her to come down and open the main door, I saw 2 pretty chicks come out. Then I saw one more. I think there are several apartments there. If I didn't have my GF over tomorrow night I would try a few more options, I have a lot of confidence that they turn out true too.

I will also now give away the two places in Jacarepagua, one is in Verano Stay, Rua Escultor Camargo number 50. They don't treat their girls particularly well, but I feel they have nice ones and their pictures they post are not too far from the truth. Anyway, I found a really sweet girl there who I stole away from the place, so now I probably fell in disgrace with them anyway.

The other place that I tried all the girls of one week was in Rua Geminiano Goes 975. This is a bit difficult to reach. I found every girl there was about what I could expect from the photos. Of course the personality of each is different and I had it good with two of the 4 I tried, while the other 2 were not false, I just didn't have great chemistry with them. I guess unless you are in Jacarepagua anyway it might not be worth going there as you have other options, but it's an option if you are there. The nice thing about that place is that it is a true 24 hours place, that is, any time of day and night, morning and Sundays, you can message and while you're not talking with the girl, the dude will wake her up and call her to duty if she is not otherwise busy. 120 the hour is definitely not too much.[/QUOTE]

Senor PM,

I will have you know, good sir, that my bank has been engaged in years of litigation over the royalties from the Girls of VM and 4 x4, 13, since we used Zappa "Jewish Princess" as the soundtrack.

You can, though find the video up on the screens of the better adult porno theaters of Gavea, just $10 reais to enter, complete with rich Catholic princesses from the local university on order to milk your gringo sperm to pay tuition, books, and to tide them over with the protein injections.

[URL]https://youtu.be/BJd6zcLnuBs[/URL]

I want a nasty little Jewish princess.

With long phony nails and a hairdo that rinses.

A horny little Jewish princess.

With a garlic aroma that could level Tacoma.

Lonely inside.

Well, she can swallow my pride.

I need a hairy little Jewish princess.

With a brand new nose, who knows where it goes.

I want a steamy little Jewish princess.

With over-worked gums, who squeaks when she cums.

I don't want no troll.

I just want a Yemenite hole.

I want a darling little Jewish princess.

Who don't know shit about cooking and is arrogant looking.

A vicious little Jewish princess.

To specifically happen with a pee-pee that's snappin.

All up inside.

I just want a princess to ride.

Awright, back to the top. Everybody twist.

I want a funky little Jewish princess.

A grinder; a bumper, with a pre-moistened dumper.

A brazen little Jewish princess.

With titanic tits, and sand-blasted zits.

She can even be poor.

So long as she does it with four on the floor.

(vapor-lock).

I want a dainty little Jewish princess.

With a couple of sisters who can raise a few blisters.

A fragile little Jewish princess.

With Roumanian thighs, who weasels and lies.

For two or three nights.

Won't someone send me a princess who bites.

Won't someone send me a princess who bites.

Won't someone send me a princess who bites.

Won't someone send me a princess who bites.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2802405]Mr. Squid is completely correct. Bits of paper about land are just that. Property is the ability to call the cops to remove anyone you don't like* and exclusively occupy whilst you are the owner. Even that is subject to endless claims (especially in the USA) by anything from tax liens to bullshit lawsuits (especially in the USA where lawyers are legally able (and encouraged by the judiciary) to charge a commission on bullshit claims).

The better way is to pay the $ to good lawyers and own via a corporation, nominees, and various asset protection devices. Don't be a cheap charlie: the entire system exists to fleece people except for banks who are not only protected and make the laws to suit themselves but are are immune from folly and 99% of the time able to be bailed out.

He is also correct about paying out of pocket ad hoc. Most doctors operate in an information silo and do not have a holistic picture. Many are out of date or ignorant of other countries where certain drugs and treatments are available (or don't say to protect their meal ticket). They spread fear, doubt and uncertainty to protect their franchise, especially medical tourism (competition). This requires you to spend a fair bit of time to learn biochemistry, anatomy, do exercise etc. There is no set and forget, outsourcing your care or a magic pill. Drug prices in Brazil and India are a fraction of the price in the USA and its made up numbers.

The Rabbi would be proud of Vagabundo. Reminds me of an old Frank Zappa song "Jewish Princess". The big tits deep tissue massage lady to relive stiffness and swelling sounds like just the ticket after my Bill Clinton oval office re-eanctment with the Michell Obama doppleganger.

* Does not apply to woke cities in USA. May not work in certain local political franchises or corruption. Check local conditions. Other exclusions and exceptions may apply.[/QUOTE]

Had dinner at the Deck last night. They have a buffet there. It's only 50 reais but a 10 reais surcharge if you pay with a card. The food was good and I left completely stuffed.

I sat there for some time sipping my water as the food digested. Decided I would see what Mab's is like. I got there about 10 pm. It was some good selections sitting and standing about. I saw a couple 7/8's, 1 "9", and the rest were average IMO.

I had a solid 7 option with one ridiculously soft ass that almost got me to pull the trigger. She quoted 500 reais for two hours. I tried to do only one hour, but she wanted two? I was tired from traveling and I wanted a quick f*ck if anything. She wouldn't give me her number, but told me to just meet her there today.

I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger. I see the better looking ones pop up from time to time. I assume they are quite busy and just returning from a trick. One girl quoted this UK guy 700 reais for one hour. He said she stood firm and would not negotiate. I tried in so many words to tell him that she simply didn't want him. She went back to standing by the big screen. I'll definitely watch the NCAA final four and championship there.

One thing I noticed is how the women are all smiles and flirts until you don't invite them over. It was good to talk with some other mongers, but I think I could get better and cheaper options elsewhere. With that said, if I'm not empty by the time I go tonight I might go with the woman from last night. Her personality was good and I think she'll screw my brains out. I don't care to pay a little more for good chemistry. Some of these stuck up 304's I would never choose. Seems like they think they are doing you a favor. I'm way past simply being with a chic because she looks good.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2802500]

I sat there for some time sipping my water as the food digested. Decided I would see what Mab's is like. I got there about 10 pm. It was some good selections sitting and standing about. I saw a couple 7/8's, 1 "9", and the rest were average IMO.

I had a solid 7 option with one ridiculously soft ass that almost got me to pull the trigger. She quoted 500 reais for two hours. I tried to do only one hour, but she wanted two? I was tired from traveling and I wanted a quick f*ck if anything. She wouldn't give me her number, but told me to just meet her there today.

[/QUOTE]Before you pull the trigger, please confirm with her if the two hours is multiple nuts or not. That "500 R for 2 hours" tactic is a trick many of them use on gringos because once you cum, they get dressed to leave. They will say 2 hours hoping that you will Assume that you can bust as many times as you want during that time period.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2802351]And God forbid what if you find that you have colon cancer? Are you going to pay for the cost of treatment out-of-pocket too? I have no idea how much that would cost in India, Colombia, or Brazil, but I do know that going out-of-pocket for a serious illness in the States bankrupts many a family. The premiums can be stiff yes, but the total bill is even worse, so I keep my insurance![/QUOTE]Like he said, Brazil has a universal health care system, so you can theoretically get the treatments you need for free in public hospitals and health care centers. What it means in practice in a poor country like Brazil I have no idea, so yes, unless one's from a rich European country or Canada, I would keep my insurance too.

[URL]https://youtu.be/xUxQzVj1V4o[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2802481]Senor squid,

Obrigado.

I am fully covered as a lieutenant commander, SWISS NAVY, Retired in Lugano, but the Italian Mafia has been hunting my family for generations after we got Pope Pius laid with a cheap Sicilian hooker and had to whack the broad in a boat off of lake Como, so here I sit, in Barra, where I am waiting for the paperwork from some insufferable Chinese MD ***** in Lugano to reimburse me for a colonoscopy, which at the age of 74 I am told I should get, along 36 months of Viagra, two per month, along with the ambien, adderal, and medical marijuana, the good stuff that comes in up the asses of Brazilian porn stars on the United Flight out of Dallas every week, you know the ones, right?

Anyway, I have gone to the UPA with Nina Deponca who in addition to taking my 21 uncut centimeters of German Italian Asian bratwurst up her ass on order also speaks good Portoguese, English, Romanch, French, Italian, German, and who got me in front of a doctor to get referrals for colonscopy, endoscopy, and various related insults to my aging manhood. I never had so much as a working girl's tongue up my virgin asshole before the age of 54, and I still recoil from the thought of some person sticking a camera up my ass even if it is a life saving measure. I insist on having a full nursing staff of 4 x4 tier 1 nurses to feed me ketamine off of their lactating breasts with some po branca on order to revive me as the procedure is done. I have to date taken care of my Roman emporer (Caligula was my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grteat great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather, and I am told he and his cousins took great pleasure in nailing that bastard jew jesus to the cross personally along with their commanders, just for the fun of it, which is of note to me me now as I am converting to Judaism, and have only gotten as far as Genesis books 36 and 37, for the pornographic story of Joseph and the dream coat, which I will recite in Hebrew at temple next to the supermarket in Barra, that's all I can say, you know the Jihadis would love to blow up another temple here in SOUTHCOM).

I will quite my kvetching, and come to the point. It would cost $525 USD to get the colonoscopy, which translates from 2100 r and 525 r and 80 r for each biopsia over at the lab headquarters at Av. Armando Lombardi, 1000 - Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22640-000.

I would rather spend the $525 over at 4 x4 or VM giving young 18 year old Brazilian women colonoscopies with my Rocco-esque bratwurst, which is uncut, and will remain so, even if I get a bar mitzvah (the jewish women say it is better for the anal, for which they pay me extra, and being a good Jew, I never turn down another $500 r per hour for my go go boy MD services).

I digress. I am a Jew. Almost. I slept badly due to bad dreams about the Mafia coming over lake como with their brazilian strippers spread eagled with their asses with buttplugs asking me to fuck them in the ass like Annette Schwartz, who being a German speaks just like my sainted mother. I must get into see Doctor Freud, but at this point, he just keeps sending me to VM to find a blond to fuck up the ass.

Property? You are a genius. [URL]Economist.com[/URL] says one should just rent, and I concur.

/ s / Johan Sebastian Von Vagabundo, IV, Lieutenant Commander, SWISS NAVY, Retired, Pagan Chaplain to the Rio de Janeiro Fire Department, at your service.[/QUOTE]

Hey fellas,

I'm comin to Rio in a week and am lookin to get 2-3 girls for my buddy's bachelor party. Ideally they are friends and will play well with each other, I'm thinkin of a lesbian show and lapdances etc. To get the party started and then take it from there.

I've been looking on some of the escort sites (barravip, private55, scortrio) and seems like there's some good talent but I was just wondering if anyone could recommend any girls, as with these types of events it's important that the girls have good vibes, can socialize, and aren't crazy (had some bad experiences LOL). English skills would be a nice bonus too.

Any help would be most appreciated.

[QUOTE=DeyoWulf;2802780]Hey fellas,

I'm comin to Rio in a week and am lookin to get 2-3 girls for my buddy's bachelor party. Ideally they are friends and will play well with each other, I'm thinkin of a lesbian show and lapdances etc. To get the party started and then take it from there...[/QUOTE]It sounds like you want to have a VIP section like 4 x4 at your friend's place. I would go to 4 x4 to find and interview them.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2802706]Like he said, Brazil has a universal health care system, so you can theoretically get the treatments you need for free in public hospitals and health care centers. What it means in practice in a poor country like Brazil I have no idea, so yes, unless one's from a rich European country or Canada, I would keep my insurance too.[/QUOTE]I'll tell you what it means. When it comes to medical treatment for a serious illness what it means is that you're going to get what you pay for. Which, if it's free, is not likely to be the absolute best care available. Like in other countries with universal healthcare, ask upper middle class citizens and above how many of them rely only upon what's available for free. Hell a lot of them would be willing to leave their own countries to go somewhere else for treatment. I say if you can afford insurance then you should get it and avoid putting your hard earned wealth at risk. But if you can't afford it, then do what you can do, and be thankful if there are services available for free or at a very low cost.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2802867]It sounds like you want to have a VIP section like 4 x4 at your friend's place. I would go to 4 x4 to find and interview them.[/QUOTE]Unless a member here has some specific experience and recommendations, that is a great idea. Termas 4 x 4 has the sheer numbers and some true performers. My impression is that the most beautiful termas girls would generally not be interested in putting on a lesbian show or necessarily be great performers. That's just my impression. I would simply manage your expectations.

I think if you are looking for eager and aggressive performers you should find a 4 x 4 girl who knows some English that is into it. Like totally into it. Looking for a girl with those intangible leadership qualities within the termas harem helps a lot in corralling the other girls. Let her point out girls she knows who would be up for it and fun. This self-selection process almost insures some chemistry back at your place.

We've done festas this way and this almost always works out well. You only really need the leader to speak English. If you want sex, be upfront about how much time and how many guys. Don't assume they will fuck anyone and everyone.

Riding in an Uber, back to Copa. I'll use this downtime to share my experience. Let me just say this-I f*cking love walking around Centro. I wish I knew Porto on at least a basic level. I leaned some Spanish in high school and college. Although I don't use Spanish often, I can easily get comfortable enough for simple exchanges. Here, I feel like an idiot and barely want to speak at all. How am I supposed to try to pull a non-pro? It was several women walking around Centro that I would have loved to take a shot at.

To all potential newbies, try learn as much Porto as possible before coming here. Yes, imo it's that serious! Even if you leading with your wallet, I think it will only enhance the experience.

I had two bait and switch episodes from [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]. One was yesterday in Copa, the one today was in Centro. The expectation of rain and thinking with the little head this morning was the reason for my misstep today. I wasn't all that bumped out. From the excellent intel in these pages, I had options. Went to the pharmacy and got 4 sidenfil tablets for 7 reais. Ate some crap Italian while I let the pill kick in and also walked around Centro. I found myself in some bustling outside market taking in the scenery. It's grimy af, but I enjoyed it. However, there is no way in hell I'm walking around there at night and I tend to intimidate many people because of my sheer size.

Anyway, I contacted the Darkroom. Their website has a link that automatically connects with WhatsApp. I got a reply with pictures and was told to stop by. I did not have an appointment. The line up was meh, but I settled on a dark skin, slightly taller chic with a nice little butt. The session was good. Just nothing earth shattering to share. She was nice though and took care of me. Mind blowing to be with a young babe like that for roughly $30.

I have a prearranged session tomorrow for 300 reais for two hours. I'm importing her in and paying the Uber. I noticed the best online chics are about an hour away in all directions. She is young and has the prettiest pussy I've ever seen. I can't help myself. I need to learn one more lesson! LOL I'm taking one for the team!

I have some leads from Tinder, but not sure if I'll follow up. Older, not as attractive as what I see on a daily, and I can't speak Porto so I might save myself the agony. I'm back in Copa at Drop coffee finishing this report as I sip my coffee and watch the passersby's. I got plenty of time here. My goal is find the one to have an experience that will last a lifetime. I'm hoping for some epic type shit!

Good evening gents!

I'm finally flying in tomorrow! WHOO HOO! Staying right on the beach in Ipanema in a great airbnb with deck pool and girls allowed.

I'm there March 31-April 8. My target list is:

Saturday 4/1: Hit the beach (last hot day before fall) for a bit. Solarium late afternoon / early evening.

Sunday 4/2: Hiking Tijuca Forest & Horto Waterfalls Circuit Tour in the morning; expecting no scene but might hit a bar or get an online girl.

Monday 4/3: Maybe a prive in the morning; beach; 4 x4 or Solarium.

Tuesday 4/4: Rinse and repeat.

Wednesday 4/5: Might need another hike or other activity.

That's as far as I've gotten.

Anyone interested in girl hunting? Especially if you want to grab one and I grab one and we share a room. Love watching sex.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2803025]Good evening gents!

I'm finally flying in tomorrow! WHOO HOO! Staying right on the beach in Ipanema in a great airbnb with deck pool and girls allowed.

I'm there March 31-April 8. My target list is:

Saturday 4/1: Hit the beach (last hot day before fall) for a bit. Solarium late afternoon / early evening.

Sunday 4/2: Hiking Tijuca Forest & Horto Waterfalls Circuit Tour in the morning; expecting no scene but might hit a bar or get an online girl.

Monday 4/3: Maybe a prive in the morning; beach; 4 x4 or Solarium.

Tuesday 4/4: Rinse and repeat.

Wednesday 4/5: Might need another hike or other activity.

That's as far as I've gotten.

Anyone interested in girl hunting? Especially if you want to grab one and I grab one and we share a room. Love watching sex.[/QUOTE]If you like slim girls but with bunda you def need to check out Monte Carlo. See my recent report. If you go early like 3 you will have the whole lineup to choose from. I took five girls in two days. There is a small lineup but amazing quality.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2802706]Like he said, Brazil has a universal health care system, so you can theoretically get the treatments you need for free in public hospitals and health care centers. What it means in practice in a poor country like Brazil I have no idea, so yes, unless one's from a rich European country or Canada, I would keep my insurance too.[/QUOTE]It is not difficult to find out how good the system is. You only need to search the public hospitals on Google map and read the reviews.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2802898]Unless a member here has some specific experience and recommendations, that is a great idea. Termas 4 x 4 has the sheer numbers and some true performers. My impression is that the most beautiful termas girls would generally not be interested in putting on a lesbian show or necessarily be great performers. That's just my impression. I would simply manage your expectations.

I think if you are looking for eager and aggressive performers you should find a 4 x 4 girl who knows some English that is into it. Like totally into it. Looking for a girl with those intangible leadership qualities within the termas harem helps a lot in corralling the other girls. Let her point out girls she knows who would be up for it and fun. This self-selection process almost insures some chemistry back at your place.

We've done festas this way and this almost always works out well. You only really need the leader to speak English. If you want sex, be upfront about how much time and how many guys. Don't assume they will fuck anyone and everyone.[/QUOTE]Thank you kindly for the advice good sir and to Nounce as well.

Hi,

I will be in Rio from the 12th of April until the 16th of April if anyone wants to join for some hikes and ladies drop me private message.

Best,

Aviv.

[QUOTE=DeyoWulf;2803098]Thank you kindly for the advice good sir and to Nounce as well.[/QUOTE]Let's get a group of girls and have them all!

[QUOTE=DeyoWulf;2803098]Thank you kindly for the advice good sir and to Nounce as well.[/QUOTE]" Looking for a girl with those intangible leadership qualities within the termas harem helps a lot in corralling the other girls. ".

What does this mean inplain english?

Hi everyone,

Just wondering what Rio is like in July compared to other months?

I read that many Brazilians like to take holidays in July, will it be packed with Brazilian families?

Obrigado.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2803459]Hi everyone,

Just wondering what Rio is like in July compared to other months?

I read that many Brazilians like to take holidays in July, will it be packed with Brazilian families?.[/QUOTE]For me, the problem with Brazil during the summer months is that it's actually their winter down there. It can be cool and rainy which is not what I prefer when down there on vacation, especially if in a hotel that's not really able to accommodate that weather with proper heating. After going down there once in like the June / July timeframe I said I would not go at that time of year again. I prefer October through March or April for weather-related reasons.

Arrived and got through customs quickly -- the lady kept eyeballing me and smiling. Very nice -- a lot better than stern dude staring me down. Plus she had nice cleavage and a button unbuttoned.

Staying in Ipanema and didn't get to my apartment until 7 pm or so. Hightailed it to 4 x4 and it's very easy as a lady at the counter spoke English. A few things I didn't see covered after I RTFF'd.

1) You do not need to show ID or passport to get in. I was worried about that after Santiago Chile and luckily I got in (I didn't bring it for safety reasons).

2) My car tried to let me out on the main street half a block down. No way, jose. I made him drive around for the 3-4 minutes to put me right in front. I probably would have been fine but it IS Rio. I also take Uber so I can track exactly where I'm going and there's a record of my existence on the route. Do not take taxis.

3) The locker lady is a bit, um, jaded. LOL. I didn't see any robes after standing in front of the lockers for a few minutes then went looking for them and got yelled at. Don't worry, she'll come with slippers and your robe.

4) The robes are NOT very big. I freeballed and kept falling out. I am not gordo. Maybe she just gave me a small size? I saw a very large guy with a robe that went around him. So maybe make sure it's big enough?

5) Anyway, freeballing made it VERY easy for the ladies to come up and just start stroking me while I'm sitting there oogling the women and drinking a beer. Kissing me on the lips and even chest / nipple suck. The guy to the right of me had 3 girls all tongue kissing each other all at the same time. You can pretty much do anything except fuck there.

6) Paranoid me -- I ordered beer at the bar and watched them open the top. No mixed drinks, nothing poured from a bottle (there was an open champagne bottle and other drinks passing around -- no way).

After enjoying the show, went to the room with Carla, a trim medium-dark Brazilian with kinky funky hair and a banging hard bubble butt. Prices are below. Perfect BBBJ. One of the best kissers I've ever encountered, professionally or girlfriend-ey. Very sweet girl and I loved her vibe -- not plastic / trashy / loud. Doesn't drink. Carries herself well. Got her # for Sunday.

Now it's Saturday morning and I'm going to try the Dark room Saturday Special as a solo gringo. Wish me luck!

Vagabond, anyone else, want to meet up for girls and a drink?

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2803391]" Looking for a girl with those intangible leadership qualities within the termas harem helps a lot in corralling the other girls. ".

What does this mean in plain english?[/QUOTE]More in the context of my post, the best route is to find a girl at the termas who speaks English and has some influence with the other girls. Like in any group, certain people can organize the rest into action (leadership qualities). This girl can help you sort out and find other "performers". You tell her what you want. She can help with the translation and getting the girls to your place.

If a member here says he knows a hot girl who likes to perform lesbian shows, etc. And will bring three of her hot friends, this could be a good option. Barring that option, the above method is how we organize festas (sex parties). I think most of us here would advise against booking escorts independently with the hope there is chemistry between the girls when they meet each other.

So I Ubered to Dark Room. A few tips:

You need to bring a copy of your passport. A photo on my phone worked fine. The front desk will give you an access card that you have to give back when you leave.

I felt safe walking around in daylight in the area -- lots of people, market going on, shops open. Be careful with your things for pickpocketing but seemed better than 4 x4 at night by a lot.

To get there you have to take the ele to 20 and then turn right, go down the first little hallway, open a door, go up the stairs 1 level, turn right. It'll be a black door w / DR on it.

Womp womp, closed. This was 11:30 am Saturday. I thought they had a Saturday Special going on.

Went through my notes and went down to 1417.

Gringo tax of 200 for an hour.

2 blondes and one mulatta available. Isis, someone else and Bruno (blonde). I went with Bruno who was wearing a doctor's smock and nothing underneath. She's also my perfect type -- thick but not fat / no cellulite / not huge wide hips, nice soft big butt, huge tits, big lips and loves to kiss. The nice thing is each girl used their phone to translate what they'll do without me asking.

So we strip naked and make out for a really long time. Super passionate and her soft body pressed against mine felt incredible.

Ate her out, BBBJ, the deed.

Took about the full hour.

She was super sweet after. Stayed a few minutes and then brought me a juice and helped me dress with a deep passionate kiss and touch as I left. Felt just like a girlfriend who liked me.

Got out of there around 1.

Now to siesta on the beach.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2803547]For me, the problem with Brazil during the summer months is that it's actually their winter down there. It can be cool and rainy which is not what I prefer when down there on vacation, especially if in a hotel that's not really able to accommodate that weather with proper heating. After going down there once in like the June / July timeframe I said I would not go at that time of year again. I prefer October through March or April for weather-related reasons.[/QUOTE]Maybe I've gotten lucky then.

I've been in Rio in June-Aug 2-3 times and don't remember serious raining. I do remember pleasant non-sweltering temps and I still enjoyed the beach. Evenings could be a little breezy, though, so I remember wearing a light shirt over a tee a couple of times. But again, it's just my experience.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2803558]

6) Paranoid me -- I ordered beer at the bar and watched them open the top. No mixed drinks, nothing poured from a bottle (there was an open champagne bottle and other drinks passing around -- no way).[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. There is no reason to be paranoid in any Termas in Rio. They won't poison your drink. Also a passport is not needed. That ID BS is just for a few Centro buildings.

One more thing about 4 x4. Keep your receipt at the end to give to the guy outside.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2803547]For me, the problem with Brazil during the summer months is that it's actually their winter down there. It can be cool and rainy which is not what I prefer when down there on vacation, especially if in a hotel that's not really able to accommodate that weather with proper heating. After going down there once in like the June / July timeframe I said I would not go at that time of year again. I prefer October through March or April for weather-related reasons.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.

Coming from northern England and being pale, I actually prefer the cooler weather.

Just booked flights for July, now the hard part, the waiting game.

Day 3 was a Sunday so break day from the girls.

Day 4 - Monday. Went on an morning killer waterfall hike in the Tijuca national forest. Highly recommend.

Came back by noon and went to check out Eden Spa in Copa.

The lineup was incredible -- every height, weight, thickness, skin tone. Must have had 8 girls presented and I would have taken all of them.

I couldn't choose between a very tall modelesque black lady whose name began with a T (Tata? Toca? Something along those lines -- wait till she shows up on their site). Incredible body but very tall and wanted someone short and busty today.

Duda had ass for days and was about to take her then Suellen walked in.

Eye contact, said she kissed, great outfit, looked like she was 16. Super hot babyfat girl with it in all the right places.

Performance wasn't exactly as the presentation promised. Felt like it would be GFE but was PSE. Had to change style a little ways in from what I was feeling. That's one reason I like the Termas over apartments -- you can get a feel for chemistry for a bit before choosing. Here, you're choosing a body.

Body was just as great as I imagined -- her tan lines really did it for me. Fucking someone who looks too young (verified 18+ FYI) who everyone would stare at on the beach in her teeny bikini and having her for R220 (I paid by CC, cash might be cheaper) was awesome. Tried to tent me for the BJ but I said no and she gave a fantastic one including very careful and gentle ball sucking, licking under and even tossing my salad. Felt like a dirty daughter's friend sneaking in when nobody else was home to take care of daddy. Licked her (delicious) and did as many positions as we could until time ran out.

Much, much better lineup than 1417 and I loved those women.

There is no girl working here under a 7 for me. Blast away and I'm not going to argue who is a 6 to you is an 8 to me. I love women and think all of them (besides the obviously unattractive) have some assemblance of sexiness. The variety in any one club is mind blowing -- and that's from a world mongering expert.

Viva Rio!

That said, went to Mab's after for a drink -- wasn't expecting nor seeking working girls and there weren't any to be seen. But a nice strong Salinas Caipirinha right on the beach was a perfect relaxer after a perfect day.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2804419]Day 3 was a Sunday so break day from the girls.

Day 4 - Monday. Went on an morning killer waterfall hike in the Tijuca national forest. Highly recommend.

Came back by noon and went to check out Eden Spa in Copa.

The lineup was incredible -- every height, weight, thickness, skin tone. Must have had 8 girls presented and I would have taken all of them.

I couldn't choose between a very tall modelesque black lady whose name began with a T (Tata? Toca? Something along those lines -- wait till she shows up on their site). Incredible body but very tall and wanted someone short and busty today.

Duda had ass for days and was about to take her then Suellen walked in.

Eye contact, said she kissed, great outfit, looked like she was 16. Super hot babyfat girl with it in all the right places.

Performance wasn't exactly as the presentation promised. Felt like it would be GFE but was PSE. Had to change style a little ways in from what I was feeling. That's one reason I like the Termas over apartments -- you can get a feel for chemistry for a bit before choosing. Here, you're choosing a body.

Body was just as great as I imagined -- her tan lines really did it for me. Fucking someone who looks too young (verified 18+ FYI) who everyone would stare at on the beach in her teeny bikini and having her for R220 (I paid by CC, cash might be cheaper) was awesome. Tried to tent me for the BJ but I said no and she gave a fantastic one including very careful and gentle ball sucking, licking under and even tossing my salad. Felt like a dirty daughter's friend sneaking in when nobody else was home to take care of daddy. Licked her (delicious) and did as many positions as we could until time ran out.

Much, much better lineup than 417 and I loved those women.

There is no girl working here under a 7 for me. Blast away and I'm not going to argue who is a 6 to you is an 8 to me. I love women and think all of them (besides the obviously unattractive) have some assemblance of sexiness. The variety in any one club is mind blowing -- and that's from a world mongering expert.

Viva Rio!

That said, went to Mab's after for a drink -- wasn't expecting nor seeking working girls and there weren't any to be seen. But a nice strong Salinas Caipirinha right on the beach was a perfect relaxer after a perfect day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your experience! I just arrived in Rio and will be staying until April 8th AM.

Is it normal to recieve BBBJ in massages? Or they usually put some protection?

Does anybody have a recommendation besides 4 x4? I've read a lot about Centaurus, Monte Carlo and Solarium. I would be very thankfull to recieve any PM with info on specific girls with known performance to contact. Just trying to give the best possible use of my time in Rio. Thanks in advance to everyone wanting to share!!

Just got back from my favorite country. Took a quick side trip to Curitiba which I will write about in that section. I didn't visit any prives this trip, just termas. Most of the clubs are better than my visit last year. More girls in the clubs which in turn, means more selection for us. Here's my rundown.

4 x4. Liz and the girl who got away. 4 x4 was the first termas I visited this trip. Not the greatest lineup when I first got there but then again it was early. Around 16:30. A girl named Liz came to sit with me. She was small with big natural titties. Usually not my type, but she was cute and personable. After spending about ½ hour making out with her in the bar area we went up. This is when I saw a girl coming down, more my style. Tall, beautiful face, slim figure. Thought to myself to look for her after this session. The session with Liz was good but not great but this was my first so it was good to get it out of the way. I give Liz an overall score of be. Now the messed up part. As we were coming down, the mystery girl I saw while going up, she was now heading up with another customer. After seeing this, I went to the sauna room to relax a bit since I knew she would be a while before coming down. I was in the relax room for about ½ hour and I see she is getting her stuff from the lady. Mystery lady was going up again. Don't know what happened with the other guy. Went back down to the boate. Of course many girls were circling me like sharks. This one girl who had a beautiful face wanted to talk. I told her I was waiting for another girl. She said no problem she would leave when the other girl showed up. I bought her a drink and just talked a bit. Her name is Raquel. After she finished her drink, she asked if she could order another. I told her no and you should have seen how fast she left me. Glad I didn't take her up. A few minutes past and mystery girl walks in the door. I get up to fetch her but was too late. This girl is popular. I waited to see what happens and sure enough, they head upstairs. I decided to call it a night and seek her some other night.

I did go back on Friday March 31 to find the mystery girl but nooooo. I walk in and something is different. As I walk up the stairs, I hear no music. The receptionist gives me a key but as I walk to the locker room, the attendent is yelling a dude to get out. She told me I couldn't use the locker room either. Then a guy comes out and tells me they are having a problem and to wait in the boate. I go there and there is maybe five other guys there and no girls. I wait about 15 minutes and decide to bail. Then another guy tells me something broke and there is some kind of nasty smell going on. He tells me all the girls are downstairs. I go downstairs and there are some girls there. This is when it became surreal. A guy is carrying a girl who is unconscious, other girls running out with finger closing their nose. Then after a while, about ten girls rushed back to their locker room changed and left for home. I did see one girl just my type and I asked if she was coming back and she said no, to see her on Monday. Unfortunately I would be gone by then. I then go back up to reception and the lady there said it should be fixed shortly. I told her I'll be back. I paid the entrance of are $60. She told me to show her the receipt when I come back so the wouldn't double bill me. I walked to a hamburger place nearby. Order to go and ate it back in my room. I was going to go back to 4 x4 but fell asleep after eating. So the mystery girl will have to wait.

M / see Last year I was one of the guys who wrote how disappointing m / see was. Only 3 average girls and the best looking girl was the receptionist. Thanks to Steve's update, I returned and I agree, much much better. When checking in I asked the receptionist (not the same receptionist as last year) how many girls were working. She said it's a little early so there are only 10 girls here now and there should be 18 in total by the end of the night. Nice!

The first girl I took, sorry forgot her name was thicker than I usually take. Had a pretty face and the make-out session was good. I took her up and everything was good until I tried to suck her titties. She said she recently had a baby so milk was coming out and didn't want me to suck or touch her titties. Everything else was fine except for this so I gave her a score of be-, She should have told me before hand. Next up, a slim girl named Marrissa. In the boate she kissed just the way I like it. We go to the room and had a great time. I give her a solid be. I took points off because she is a smoker and every once in a while you could taste the smoke.

I would say this terma is back to pre pandemic level.

BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said ½ hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes. Inside the boate were only 3 girls with one being occupied. The other two were average at best. One of the girls came to talk but I told her it was my first time there and just wanted to relax. I did ask her if more girls would be in and she said yes but didn't know what time the other girls would be in. The prices seem good and located near 4 x4 and 65, but if the quality doesn't get better, not sure if they will survive.

65 The lineup here has improved also. The bad news, not sure why but the music from the boate is so loud, it's annoying. I stayed in the whiskeria because of this. There were at least three girls I could have gone up with. On a side note, one girl looked almost like a she-male so if you are into that, you may want to check this place out. I took a girl named Jessica up. Really pretty girl and her session was good but not great. Her kissing could improve. I give her a solid be Didn't take anyone else up but did use their sauna which felt great.

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Manhattan / Cancun I liked this place better when it was a terma. Now, it's more like a lounge. Anyways, this place also had a better lineup. The first girl I took from here was way out of my comfort zone. Her name is Thalissa or something that sounded like that. An amazon girl. Way taller than me and thicker. Her make out session was great and was fun to be with. I give her a be+. I took a second girl up who was more my typical type. Her name is Day, yes that's the way she spelled it. Slim model figure, pretty face, fun to be with. Everything was good about the session except she didn't want me to DATY on her. I think I know why. After pulling out, I saw some blood on the tip of the condom which she quickly wipe off. At least I hope that is the reason and not that she doesn't like DATY. If not for that, it would have been a great session. I give her a score of be.

Mv30. I went there and there were only three girls at around 17:30. I told the receptionist I would come back later when there were more girls and left. Didn't charge an entrance fee so no harm no foul.

Solarium. I missed out on going here last year so made a point of going here this trip. About 7 girls when I got there with two my type. I choose the blonde named Luna. Great kisser and for you newbies who feel more comfortable with someone who speaks English, this is your girl. The downstairs make out session was only topped by the bedroom session. Everything was good. One funny thing, as I was DATY, she told me to stop and kiss her. She said she wanted to taste herself because she likes girls also. At least we have one thing in common. She was an easy A in my book.

If you are a newbie and I'm sure if you ask her, she could be your guide to Rio. Of course with some kind of payment. I think if you are into 3-somes, she would be great since she told me she likes girls. I just wish I had found her earlier on my vacation but at least I found her at some point. I will contact her next year to hook up and hopefully it will be just as good as this year.

I also was with my regular girl for two days and no brainer. She scores an A++. I didn't post any prices except for Ba21 because all of that information has been posted before.

"BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said ½ hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes".

Is it USD?

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2804583]"BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes".

Is it USD?[/QUOTE]It sounds like trash terma pricing. It should BRL. 10 is cover, some have cover, some don't.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2804583]"BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes".
Is it USD?[/QUOTE]Yes, in Brazil they always have their prices in USD.

Perola Negra, 350 40 minutes, 30 reais cover.

So I went there with a ISGer in town for a month.

I found a girl who is a paulistana in town for a few weeks, and she said she would BBFS, but when we got to the room she wanted to upsell me and ask for a tip to bareback. Totally blew it and she was a time waster. I am out of practice for the terma scene. I did not screen well enough. I just fucked her with a condom.

I have so many regulars who will let me creampie all their holes that I hate hate hate having the 40 minute time pressure.

But I got some numbers. Some good talent. My wingman who prefers blondes and to wife up his girl was in heaven and pissed in a circle and marked his girl, a single mother for whom he paid 600 or so for an hour. I view those prices as more than one needs to pay with many good prive options, but he has been locked in rich world man park pussy prison for a year, and blew another 800 on a 4 x4 girl.

Perola Negra is a good option in a good neighborhood. Learn from my mistake as I am: always do a good interview before going upstairs. Also, I had barebacked my regular 20 year old in earlier in the day so I was not strictly in need of fucking again but being a functional sex addict, I did again fuck.

And so it goes, here in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, an adult disneyland, where the natives are friendly but ruthlessly greedy.

[QUOTE=Newbee06;2804492]Thanks for sharing your experience! I just arrived in Rio and will be staying until April 8th AM.

Is it normal to recieve BBBJ in massages? Or they usually put some protection?

Does anybody have a recommendation besides 4 x4? I've read a lot about Centaurus, Monte Carlo and Solarium. I would be very thankfull to recieve any PM with info on specific girls with known performance to contact. Just trying to give the best possible use of my time in Rio. Thanks in advance to everyone wanting to share!![/QUOTE]All your answers are contained within. Yes. RTTF.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2804583]"BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes".

"Is it USD?[/QUOTE]It's in reais. For some reason the auto-correct changes the r. to are.

Beach day!

After seeing the best asses in the world just inches from my face all day, I had to go to Solarium. Very different from 4 x4 and it just depends on what you like. No girl is "better" or "worse" than another girl just depends on what you like.

- Do you like girls to initially be modelesque ice queens preening themselves? Solarium.

- Do you like Cosmo girls more than Women of Color girls? Solarium.

- Do you like to feel somewhat classier or more upscale before penetrating? Solarium.

The same thing happens in both places once you get into a room. Room quality was the same for me. Had an amazing time at both. I just prefer more assertive women who don't initially give off the stone faced "I know I'm hot" vibe. Solarium is in a much nicer / safer neighborhood. Less expensive Uber from Ipanema / Copa. And with every encounter, YMMV. My chemistry with a lady will be wildly different than yours. Figure out how to get what you want using the vehicle provided.

Anywho, hung out beginning 6:30 ish on a Tuesday night. Freeballin under a robe again. 50/50 girl: guy ratio but nowhere to sit. Girls are taking up all the bar seats and a lot of the couch seats. Get your ass up -- those are for the people who paid are $150 just to get inside.

Nobody really fit my fancy. All were gorgeous. But there's always "that one" who speaks to me. Finally found a seat and 6 guys thought standing 2 feet in front of me blocking my view except for wide man ass was a great time. Yes, it's too small and badly laid out.

So I got up and stood by the other mirror until an old dude got up and took his prime perch next to the stairs. That's where you want to be -- can see the girls coming up before anyone else can nab them.

Bided my time for about 30 minutes knowing more will pop up over time. But the place is kind of boring. No peep show aspect like 4 x4, just girls standing, bored, and guys sitting either bored or talking to other guys. Ugh.

Finally The One came up the stairs. Probably 5'8 to 5'9, looks Italian or classy European, blonde hair, massive breasts stretching a fishnet "dress," slightly older (which I like as overall they're more confident, enjoy sex more, not so dead fish-ey) and smoke started coming out of my ears. Unfortunately, she ignored me and went straight to a guy at the bar. Fuck. But about 10 minutes later she started making her way back and I gave her the eye. Sat down next to me and we just looked into each other's eyes for an intensely personal amount of time. Things got going, up to the room, and she was incredible. After we were done and she let herself have a couple orgasms (a great sign that she let herself go) she instigated cuddles, kissing, made sure we stayed till the call, then pushed me against the wall so I couldn't go down the stairs right away. Her name was be-something but I had no idea what it was. But she's the only one who looks like that.

Went to the sauna, which is MUCH better than 4 x4's, which is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too punishingly searingly hot. Nice eucalyptus lemon in the steam. Skin felt amazing and so did I.

The nice little cherry on top was that the locker room attendant when I left was a cute lady who knew I was changing and stayed anyway. Well, I'm not shy so here's a huge gringo dick for you to check out.

Thinking Whiskeria (sp) tonight. We shall see.

Fucking my way across Rio.

The variety of types of girls is just outstanding. Yesterday was a curvy busty horny MILF. Today was a Perola, a super tight teen with a bubble butt and perfect tan on medium brown skin and dark dark nipples at Whiskeria 65. Wow.

Perola was her name. Dancing up a storm in the way too loud bar / club area. Almost physical pain just sitting there. But I was the ONLY guy at 6 pm and was surrounded by 20 mostly naked girls. One would sit next to me, DFK, stroke my cock and I'd watch the gyrations and suck her tits until she asked if I wanted to go upstairs and I'd say no thank you. Then another. Finally cycled to the one I had my eye on, Perola, but I was in no hurry whatsoever as there wasn't anyone else to take her. I caught her eye and she sat down next to me. My cock was about as thick as her forearm and I still asked if she did 'completo' which she said was 'compleado' or similar. Anyway she was willing to try and take me up her ass. Unf.

Lots of pressure to upgrade the room and time. I held strong to 30 minutes and a basic room. I knew I wasn't going to last long and this wasn't GFE.

The room was fairly nasty. Stain on the sheet, no pillow. But what it DID have that EVERY room should have was a thigh-high sink. She washed my cock in it, I peed down the drain. Very convenient.

My new favorite DATY position is her on all fours and me underneath her with our feet pointing in the same direction. I get to see everything and she gets to rub where it feels best for her. She came pretty quickly and was super juicy.

I was in no mood for a BJ so put the tent on and she could barely fit me in her tight tight pussy. Wow she's amazing. Then did try anal and didn't get very far. Tried again in another position with a ton of lube and no luck. Oh well, guess I just have the tightest puta in South America to play with.

Other notes:

- They don't take AmEx. Luckily I had cash. Aye. A Brahma and room was $390 real CC or $375 real cash. So always take backup so you can pay at the end.

- The locker room is basically in the entrance so I gave 2 lady attendants a strip show as I dropped the robe to re-dress. If you're lookin I'm not mindin.

- I didn't appreciate one of them begging and chasing me around for a tip, though.

- They do smoke in the bar.

- It is trashier than 4 x4 but I kinda like the gritty non-sterile environment.

Hi,

Anyone knows any apartment or house rentals company that works in Rio for group of 6 people, other than Airbnb.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2804932] Fucking my way across Rio. [/QUOTE]I like reading your reports. Nice, detailed synopsis of experiences.

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2804558]Just got back from my favorite country. Took a quick side trip to Curitiba which I will write about in that section. [/QUOTE]I hope the issue at 4 x4 got fixed. Too bad you didn't find your Mystery Woman. Good reading your detailed reports as well.

4 x4 is fixed. Report to follow.

Centro is a wasteland today for good Friday. No 13 de mayo. No dark room. No 1417.

Will tomorrow be shut down, too?

What about the Termas tonight? Tomorrow?

Still horny for all the puta.

Went back to 4 x4 around 6:30 after a day of hiking up to Fort Leme near Copa, having a great lunch and watching nearly naked girls on Ipanema.

Got an Uber over there. Fucking Uber drivers, man. If it's within half a mile of the location they're like "ok here. " Fuck off you assholes. They turn down wrong streets and expect me to walk around Centro in the dark. Fuck off asshat. On pickup if they're within 2 blocks, good enough! I know it's a non-Western 3rd world country but you still have the little blue dot and, I'm sorry, you fucking know where Quatro Por Quatro is, puta.

Assholes.

So of course I made the guy spend 5 minutes driving in a big circle to drop me off in front of the place. That's what I paid for, and you get 1 star. Take that.

Walk in and the towel lady is in a much better mood and almost smiled. Phew.

Only 2-3 other guys in the whole club and it's wall to wall girls. Perfect. Enjoy a beer while ogling all the ass. One girl had nothing but pasties on and a fishline-wide thong on and I swear her pussy lips were hanging out. Too bad she was all tatted up. Not my thing, but her body was perfect -- short, baby fat but not fat, perky bouncy titties. Unf.

Some plastic bottle blonde sat down next to me, took my out of my boxers (these robes are TINY, man) and put her tongue down my throat. Nice to meet you! Sent her on her way after a bit of that.

Overall had a wonderful mix of girls. Clean, tatted, tall, thick, fake boobs, fake ass, real, dark black, everything.

Another girl asked to sit with me and I told her no -- not my type and didn't want someone I did want to think I'm with her. You have to boss the bitches around a little bit.

I had my eye on a girl in a skintight body suit that was about 2 sizes too small and front zippered almost down to her belly button. Cute, jet black hair past her butt, chubby hot but put together, tits that were standing straight up, had glass on. Innocent dirty. Unf.

Played coy, again, because there was no threat of any guy taking her as there was no competition. Finally she came over and there was an immediate connection. Something I felt that's more of a pay for play thing. Hung out for a bit and then she put her tongue down my throat and sucked mine into hers and. You get the picture. Might be the deepest kiss I've ever gotten. Then deeper. I could feel the other girls staring, especially the ones I turned away, and loved it. Stay natural, ladies. Stay natural.

Took her upstairs and, holy shit, that wasn't even the beginning of how hot the session was. Maybe the best -- personally or with a prostitute -- I've ever had. "It's been months and months since I haven't had to use lube!" "How do you know how to do all this? Have you taken sex classes?" hahahahahaha. Yes, she spoke English as she was on a cruise ship for a while. Anyway, 3 eyes rolling back in her head orgasms later, Karoline was too sensitive for any more play. Which, of course, made me lick her again to body shattering effect.

I love this place.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2805465]Went back to 4 x4 around 6:30 after a day of hiking up to Fort Leme near Copa, having a great lunch and watching nearly naked girls on Ipanema. Overall had a wonderful mix of girls. Clean, tatted, tall, thick, fake boobs, fake ass, real, dark black, everything. I had my eye on a girl in a skintight body suit that was about 2 sizes too small and front zippered almost down to her belly button. Cute, jet black hair past her butt, chubby hot but put together, tits that were standing straight up, had glass on. Innocent dirty. Unf.

Played coy, again, because there was no threat of any guy taking her as there was no competition. Finally she came over and there was an immediate connection. Something I felt that's more of a pay for play thing. Hung out for a bit and then she put her tongue down my throat and sucked mine into hers and. You get the picture. Might be the deepest kiss I've ever gotten. Then deeper. I could feel the other girls staring, especially the ones I turned away, and loved it. Stay natural, ladies. Stay natural.

I love this place.[/QUOTE]Yes, the "couch play" the goes down in Brazil can be topnotch. It's what the guys who patronize the FKKs say they used to get back in the beginning in Germany, but alas no more. Save it for the zimmer they say. And WTF for? Don't they realize that some quality couch time can seal the deal? And the kissing! Man the way a Brasiliera kisses! I had a branca in Sao Paulo literally give me a "hickey of the tongue" she was going at it so deep and hard and with such passion. Have never had that before or since! Good reports! Glad you're enjoying your trip.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2805472]Yes, the "couch play" the goes down in Brazil can be topnotch. It's what the guys who patronize the FKKs say they used to get back in the beginning in Germany, but alas no more. Save it for the zimmer they say. And WTF for? Don't they realize that some quality couch time can seal the deal? And the kissing! Man the way a Brasiliera kisses! I had a branca in Sao Paulo literally give me a "hickey of the tongue" she was going at it so deep and hard and with such passion. Have never had that before or since! Good reports! Glad you're enjoying your trip.[/QUOTE]Thanks Cane! Yeah the kissing is just out of control. Every girl that sits next to me on the couch gives me the deepest most passionate kiss. Without wanting anything more. Just spectacular.

Sad to hear about the FKKs. Been there and loved all the PSA. I still say there's not much better than walking into a rando Berlin house and seeing a girl take 5 dicks at once and still wanting mine to fit somewhere. Germans are dirty motherfuckers.

Back to Brazilthe sensuality is beyond compare. This is my 5th continent I've fucked across and might be the best. Why am I leaving?

P.S. Today fucking sucks. Horny and no girls because Good Friday. Even the ones I have numbers for are all churched up. Fucking catholicism.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2805542]Thanks Cane! Yeah the kissing is just out of control. Every girl that sits next to me on the couch gives me the deepest most passionate kiss. Without wanting anything more. Just spectacular.

.... Back to Brazil, the sensuality is beyond compare. This is my 5th continent I've fucked across and might be the best...[/QUOTE]The first two times I went to Brazil were for Carnival in 2003 and 2004, with two friends, all in our early 20's. This was before I mongered, but we'd go out to the clubs in Imapnema, Copa, Botafogo, etc. And the regular girls would kiss you on the lips when you met them and were leaving in the same way that guys shake hands. If they liked you a bit more they would slip in some tongue. It blew me away and I still don't know how I didn't get more sick on the trip LOL. The first trip I slept with 4 girls in 11 days and I didn't speak a word of Portuguese!

I think the Brazilian culture is just overly sexualized, or perhaps they aren't encumbered by inhibitions that we have in Europe and North America. During Carnival I noticed that they didn't drink near as much as me and my friends. It was all about dancing with as many partners as you could, making out, hooking up, etc.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2805573]The first two times I went to Brazil were for Carnival in 2003 and 2004, with two friends, all in our early 20's. This was before I mongered, but we'd go out to the clubs in Imapnema, Copa, Botafogo, etc. And the regular girls would kiss you on the lips when you met them and were leaving in the same way that guys shake hands. If they liked you a bit more they would slip in some tongue. It blew me away and I still don't know how I didn't get more sick on the trip LOL.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of my very first trip to Brazil so, so many years ago. Got back home and I was so sick. I was so, so sick! Had to take a week off from work just to recover LOL! And it all came down to going down there and kissing on all of those girls. Just DFKing like crazy. I remember literally swapping saliva with one of them! But I picked up a tip from a vet on one of these boards that I have followed on every single mongering trip I've taken since then, which is to gargle with Listerine regularly. I do it before I head out to a club. And I do it pretty immediately when I get back to my room. It kills those germs! And I've never gotten sick on a mongering trip ever again.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2805573]The first two times I went to Brazil were for Carnival in 2003 and 2004, with two friends, all in our early 20's. This was before I mongered, but we'd go out to the clubs in Imapnema, Copa, Botafogo, etc. And the regular girls would kiss you on the lips when you met them and were leaving in the same way that guys shake hands. If they liked you a bit more they would slip in some tongue. It blew me away and I still don't know how I didn't get more sick on the trip LOL. The first trip I slept with 4 girls in 11 days and I didn't speak a word of Portuguese!

I think the Brazilian culture is just overly sexualized, or perhaps they aren't encumbered by inhibitions that we have in Europe and North America. During Carnival I noticed that they didn't drink near as much as me and my friends. It was all about dancing with as many partners as you could, making out, hooking up, etc.[/QUOTE]It's truly living.

What do you need drugs and booze for if you live passionately and without fear of judgement? Without sexual puritanism repression? Fuck. Our mannequins don't even have nipples. Everywhere else they have pussy lips. Fuck. USA is so fucked and repressed it's unbelievable.

Why wouldn't a functional human want to kiss and smile and have fun and enjoy? That doesn't mean you're going to fuck the person. So kiss and enjoy! Without the hangups and expectations.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2804864]Beach day!

After seeing the best asses in the world just inches from my face all day, I had to go to Solarium. Very different from 4 x4 and it just depends on what you like. No girl is "better" or "worse" than another girl just depends on what you like.

- Do you like girls to initially be modelesque ice queens preening themselves? Solarium.

- Do you like Cosmo girls more than Women of Color girls? Solarium.

- Do you like to feel somewhat classier or more upscale before penetrating? Solarium.

The same thing happens in both places once you get into a room. Room quality was the same for me. Had an amazing time at both. I just prefer more assertive women who don't initially give off the stone faced "I know I'm hot" vibe. Solarium is in a much nicer / safer neighborhood. Less expensive Uber from Ipanema / Copa. And with every encounter, YMMV. My chemistry with a lady will be wildly different than yours. Figure out how to get what you want using the vehicle provided.

Anywho, hung out beginning 6:30 ish on a Tuesday night. Freeballin under a robe again. 50/50 girl: guy ratio but nowhere to sit. Girls are taking up all the bar seats and a lot of the couch seats. Get your ass up -- those are for the people who paid are $150 just to get inside.

Nobody really fit my fancy. All were gorgeous. But there's always "that one" who speaks to me. Finally found a seat and 6 guys thought standing 2 feet in front of me blocking my view except for wide man ass was a great time. Yes, it's too small and badly laid out.

So I got up and stood by the other mirror until an old dude got up and took his prime perch next to the stairs. That's where you want to be -- can see the girls coming up before anyone else can nab them.

Bided my time for about 30 minutes knowing more will pop up over time. But the place is kind of boring. No peep show aspect like 4 x4, just girls standing, bored, and guys sitting either bored or talking to other guys. Ugh.

Finally The One came up the stairs. Probably 5'8 to 5'9, looks Italian or classy European, blonde hair, massive breasts stretching a fishnet "dress," slightly older (which I like as overall they're more confident, enjoy sex more, not so dead fish-ey) and smoke started coming out of my ears. Unfortunately, she ignored me and went straight to a guy at the bar. Fuck. But about 10 minutes later she started making her way back and I gave her the eye. Sat down next to me and we just looked into each other's eyes for an intensely personal amount of time. Things got going, up to the room, and she was incredible. After we were done and she let herself have a couple orgasms (a great sign that she let herself go) she instigated cuddles, kissing, made sure we stayed till the call, then pushed me against the wall so I couldn't go down the stairs right away. Her name was be-something but I had no idea what it was. But she's the only one who looks like that.

Went to the sauna, which is MUCH better than 4 x4's, which is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too punishingly searingly hot. Nice eucalyptus lemon in the steam. Skin felt amazing and so did I.

The nice little cherry on top was that the locker room attendant when I left was a cute lady who knew I was changing and stayed anyway. Well, I'm not shy so here's a huge gringo dick for you to check out.

Thinking Whiskeria (sp) tonight. We shall see.[/QUOTE]Solarium is a white girl convention. There is damn near zero diversity in there. If one likes a terma that is not even remotely close to representative of the make up of Rio or Brazil than this is the place.

Very true.

And the black girls when they appear in Solarium are not top tier.

The top tier black girls are to be found in the prives of copa and centro, 4 x4, perola negra, mosaico, and of course VM.

Top tier morenas are to be found in Solarium, of course.

There are a whole list of zona norte and zona east boates, such as black and white in bonsuccesso, and what I call a new secret terma (as I am a mystery spy novel writer at heart) somewhere North of Barra that I plan to go to with some ISGers who are in town where there is the best talent to be had in black girls. I should know. Negras could keep me alive for another 100 years!

[QUOTE=Mongmann;2805972]Solarium is a white girl convention. There is damn near zero diversity in there. If one likes a terma that is not even remotely close to representative of the make up of Rio or Brazil than this is the place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongmann;2805972]Solarium is a white girl convention. There is damn near zero diversity in there. If one likes a terma that is not even remotely close to representative of the make up of Rio or Brazil than this is the place.[/QUOTE]That's funny because the last time I went to Solarium I selected a demure, all natural, slender, black spinner. She was very nice and she gave me very friendly service if you know what I mean. KKK.

I like 4 x 4 a lot, but I believe Solarium on average has better looking girls or to be more accurate, Solarium usually has more of the kind of girls that I prefer: attractive, slender, & all natural. Take the last time I was there: there were 3 girls out of 25 or so that caught my attention. The friendly black girl that I chose, and 2 other, attractive, slender & natural brancas. The black girl was actually my 2nd choice. My 1st choice was already sitting with a customer when I arrived. But I have no regrets about that night. My little black girl was terrific. Guess I am an equal opportunity monger. I like girls of all races. HA HA. Although my overall preference is for slender Brazilian white girls and Asian, Asian girls.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;2805972]Solarium is a white girl convention. There is damn near zero diversity in there. If one likes a terma that is not even remotely close to representative of the make up of Rio or Brazil than this is the place.[/QUOTE]I just found out the KFC by my house doesn't sell burgers. If I want a burger, I don't go there.

I'm not sure racial representation in a brothel exemplifies any cultural enlightenment. White girls are clearly Solarium's schtick. If you prefer black girls, there are other venues meeting this demand.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2805975]Very true.

And the black girls when they appear in Solarium are not top tier.

The top tier black girls are to be found in the prives of copa and centro, 4 x4, perola negra, mosaico, and of course VM.

Top tier morenas are to be found in Solarium, of course.

There are a whole list of zona norte and zona east boates, such as black and white in bonsuccesso, and what I call a new secret terma (as I am a mystery spy novel writer at heart) somewhere North of Barra that I plan to go to with some ISGers who are in town where there is the best talent to be had in black girls. I should know. Negras could keep me alive for another 100 years![/QUOTE]I still need to check out Black and White as well as Perola Negra.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2805998]White girls are clearly Solarium's schtick.[/QUOTE]I would say that Centaurus had an even stronger reputation in this regard than Solarium, at least when it comes to negras. In fact, in all of my visits to Centaurus I don't recall ever seeing a black girl there even once. Same for Solarium too though, but other members have clearly acknowledged seeing a few "tokens" at Solarium every once and awhile.

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Thanks again for the advice fellas. I went to Centaurus and chatted with some girls, but didn't really get much out of it at first, so just picked the one I thought was hottest and took her up to the room. Turns out she was quite the party girl. She was smokin weed during the session and offered me coke, so I figured she'd be down for a bachelor party.

I got pretty drunk that night and have a terrible drunk memory, and combined with my complete lack of portugese, I'm not entirely sure how it happened, but I somehow got the girl to call her friends up to the room while we were fucking. Both were hotties and one of them spoke english, so I got her number and arranged the party the next day.

It was fucking epic, I couldn't have imagined it going better. They put on an absurdly hot lesbian 3 way show. They had clearly done it before, it was a work of art. It was so incredible that at some point I felt like I might have a heart attack, though that was more likely due to all the coke LOL.

Afterwards we had the option to fuck them for an extra fee (we probably overpaid for the whole thing, but was well within the budget so didn't really mind). Everything went smoothly, the girls were great, the boys were happy, and all was right in the world.

Overall I've been unsurprisingly quite impressed by the girls here. The bodies, and the mysterious hybrid racial combinations are just sensational. I've been to Centaurus, Solarium and Eden Spa, and also found one girl on [URL]seeking.com[/URL].

Eden Spa was a bit too grimy for my usual taste, but the girl I got there looked like she was from an amazonian tribe, such an exotic look. Body was banging. For that price, it just felt wrong. I actually went there because I wanted a massage with my sex, without realizing that the massage isn't really an offering there. My girl thought it was funny though, and ended up giving me a half decent massage after the sex.

Solarium also didn't disappoint for the white girls as mentioned here. I found this absolute stunner brunette who looks just like a girl from high school that is going to be at the wedding that I'll never be able to pull, so that satisfied a unique desire I didn't expect to be able to. Will be funny talkin to her at the wedding LOL.

My [URL]seeking.com[/URL] experience was also quite fruitful. The first night I was here I wanted to go out and have some pleasant company, not just get laid, and she played the role very well. Good vibe, conversation somehow flowed decently even though she spoke no english and it was 100% google translate, and she found some coke for me. She was like 1/3 hooker, 1/3 girlfriend, 1/3 concierge. Whatever I wanted she'd help me get. Seen her a couple times.

If I was here for longer and wanted to learn portugese, I would definitely use seeking more. I like the experience and had a number of other hotties messaging me on there, but didn't really have enough time for them. Might see one more before I leave.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2806818]White Brazilian women are my favorite. I have zero attraction to black women......[/QUOTE]Way back in the 80's I knew this Pam Grier lookalike who wanted nothing to do with me. She liked an acquaintance of mine and I tried to get them together. One day I had the two of them at my place and left them alone in a room. Try as she would he would not get it on with her. She ended up calling him a priest. In my mind I was not so kind and subsequently avoided him as I thought he may have been gay. But perhaps he was not. I'm just happy I like all women.

Just spent two weeks in Rio. Stayed at Windsor Palace Copacabana. Great location just one block from: the beach, a churrascaria, Monte Carlo terma, Eden Spa. Standard Rio experience, lots of fucking and lots of good steak. No complaints.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2806941]I would say that Centaurus had an even stronger reputation in this regard than Solarium, at least when it comes to negras. In fact, in all of my visits to Centaurus I don't recall ever seeing a black girl there even once. Same for Solarium too though, but other members have clearly acknowledged seeing a few "tokens" at Solarium every once and awhile.[/QUOTE]The girl I went with at Centaurus was black and IMO easily the hottest there, and her friend who joined for our bachelor party was caramel, second hottest. But yes, not too many other dark skinned girls there. Definitely some other caramel skin tones though. Solarium similar. One proper black girl, a couple caramels.

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Spent a few weeks in Rio during February. Visited Eden Spa, Dark room, and 4 x4. I will say that the best value was Eden Spa, I only went twice but both girls were great. First time I went was around 2-3 pm, and the lineup was huge (15 girls). Ended up with a girl (Julia?) from the Amazon, she was so wet and body was banging. Should have repeated, she waited for me after I showered to kiss me good bye. 4 x4 was great too, best night was Wednesday 6 pm as there were few guys around and way too many girls. Friday was also good, but maybe like 20 guys and very crowded. And maybe I went to dark room at a bad time, but I went Saturday early afternoon and would not repeat. Have fun guys, I miss it!

To get a google voice number, google ask you to use your real phone number to verify to get the google number. Once you have the new google number, can a hooker trace who you are to blackmail you by using your google number and then find out the real number you used to verify it with. Is your personal info connected at all to your google number.

This might be a duh question but I am asking for someone.

What is the going rate for short time apartments in Centro?

Any particular that comes recommend?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DeyoWulf;2806961]Thanks again for the advice fellas. I went to Centaurus and chatted with some girls, but didn't really get much out of it at first, so just picked the one I thought was hottest and took her up to the room. Turns out she was quite the party girl. She was smokin weed during the session and offered me coke, so I figured she'd be down for a bachelor party.

I got pretty drunk that night and have a terrible drunk memory, and combined with my complete lack of portugese, I'm not entirely sure how it happened, but I somehow got the girl to call her friends up to the room while we were fucking. Both were hotties and one of them spoke english, so I got her number and arranged the party the next day.

It was fucking epic, I couldn't have imagined it going better. They put on an absurdly hot lesbian 3 way show. They had clearly done it before, it was a work of art. It was so incredible that at some point I felt like I might have a heart attack, though that was more likely due to all the coke LOL.

Afterwards we had the option to fuck them for an extra fee (we probably overpaid for the whole thing, but was well within the budget so didn't really mind). Everything went smoothly, the girls were great, the boys were happy, and all was right in the world.

Overall I've been unsurprisingly quite impressed by the girls here. The bodies, and the mysterious hybrid racial combinations are just sensational. I've been to Centaurus, Solarium and Eden Spa, and also found one girl on [URL]seeking.com[/URL].

Eden Spa was a bit too grimy for my usual taste, but the girl I got there looked like she was from an amazonian tribe, such an exotic look. Body was banging. For that price, it just felt wrong. I actually went there because I wanted a massage with my sex, without realizing that the massage isn't really an offering there. My girl thought it was funny though, and ended up giving me a half decent massage after the sex.

Solarium also didn't disappoint for the white girls as mentioned here. I found this absolute stunner brunette who looks just like a girl from high school that is going to be at the wedding that I'll never be able to pull, so that satisfied a unique desire I didn't expect to be able to. Will be funny talkin to her at the wedding LOL.

My [URL]seeking.com[/URL] experience was also quite fruitful. The first night I was here I wanted to go out and have some pleasant company, not just get laid, and she played the role very well. Good vibe, conversation somehow flowed decently even though she spoke no english and it was 100% google translate, and she found some coke for me. She was like 1/3 hooker, 1/3 girlfriend, 1/3 concierge. Whatever I wanted she'd help me get. Seen her a couple times.

If I was here for longer and wanted to learn portugese, I would definitely use seeking more. I like the experience and had a number of other hotties messaging me on there, but didn't really have enough time for them. Might see one more before I leave.[/QUOTE]How much was a gram there?

[QUOTE=DJFourMoney;2808992]This might be a duh question but I am asking for someone. What is the going rate for short time apartments in Centro?.[/QUOTE]Tell your friend that airbnb is ready when he is.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2808832]Once you have the new google number, can a hooker trace who you are.[/QUOTE]The short answer is no.

Yet another direct hit from a Mark 48 ADCAP and Harpoon. Breaking up noises. Effing RTFF!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2809028]Tell your friend that airbnb is ready when he is.[/QUOTE]

Been commuting to sex prison (USA) and have a reasonable idea of comparison. The first is that many folks have become used to banging their heads on the wall, and it's only when we stop we realize how much it hurts and how unproductive it is. A little below on this board was the comment of living without fear of judgment, which in USA means how rich you are and various status symbols that operates much like a jailers key ring, but most it means exclusion. Layered on top of that are race and other idiotic moral "issues" to keep the population divided of rubbish rather than voting for medium to long term goals of economic and happiness security. Brazil is so much more than cheap pussy. It's about celebrating life. The bit about the carnival, people spontaneously kissing and not needing various drugs to be happy tells the underlying story. And that's what I'm finding with Brazilian friends, a certain openness, generosity and not being over-caffeinated and perpetually pissed off. The "experience" of BR women GFE is because they are happier generally rather than US women.

Here we, as men, are easily sexually satisfied (without guilt or shame) and far more chilled. It's fun reading the posts. It's like a wide-eyed child just coming off a fun ride, so the guys here are mostly smiling, happy and open to forming friends and mostly full of good will because the craziness is abated. I see this in Thailand as well. We discover a new "us".

In any event, the USD is cooked. Weaponizing the dollar (and compliant western banks) with Russia sealed its fate. OPEC is no longer exclusively USD. Brazil is now trading outside of USD as are so may others. This destroys one of the key reasons of investing in the USA, it was the one thing that made putting up with the ever growing list of internal daily failings (endemic homelessness, weekly mass shootings, collapse of belief in institutions, no health care safety net, sex prison, crass commercialism, social inequality and unrest).

It's only now I'm realizing when we stop banging our heads against the wall, how good life starts to feel. We cannot save the Amazon personally, that's a crazy worship of money disease (dressed up "free" markets, supposedly a good thing in and of itself) much like the capitalists selling the rope to the revolutionaries to hang themselves with. Anyway, I started yesterday sipping awesome single origin coffee in Noritake China with my young lady asleep with a soft smile on her perfect skin and face. She is not all materialistic like western women. And ocean views. And serious basic, free healthcare. And no mass shootings. And knowing she will happily and proactively provide any part of herself and always asking me (smiling and winking at me) "what would you like", I find myself incredibly at peace, like slipping into a second childhood with all the wonder and fun of the first.

Discovering this place and letting go of my old life is a source of great happiness. Once you boys reach sexual needs equilibrium (meaning, adjust to healthy society), the next step is discovering everything else. It does not take much money to live here (relative to USA). Daily BJ's and the like are normal, healthy living and many of the ladies I know take pride in keeping their men happy and the affection they get in return.

It's not just bitter, spiteful old American cows or vain social media addicted younger ones: they are just a reflection of a wider sick society.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2809394]Been commuting to sex prison (USA) and have a reasonable idea of comparison. [/QUOTE]I enjoy your posts about life in Brazil, but I'm honestly sick and tired of this "de-dollarization" BS. If I hadn't heard the same nonsense for the last 30 years, I might've been inclined to take it more seriously, but Russia, Brazil, India? Seriously? Russia's economy is in a toilet, waiting for a flush. India's economy is 1/7th of ours, Brazil's is 1/10th, South Africa's is not even in the picture. China is a serious contender, but yuan (like all BRIC's currencies except SA) is not convertible, plus yuan's share is meager 7% of world transactions. More importantly, none of our allies is rushing out of the dollar world, and there is no indication that it's going to change. Dollar is safe and will be for a long time.

As for OPEC's growing discontent with the US policies, let's see how it plays out. Today, we are the top producer of oil in the world, which wasn't the case 40 years ago. And yet we survived.

[URL]https://history.state.gov/milestones/1969-1976/oil-embargo[/URL]

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2809394]Been commuting to sex prison (USA) and have a reasonable idea of comparison. The first is that many folks have become used to banging their heads on the wall, and it's only when we stop we realize how much it hurts and how unproductive it is. A little below on this board was the comment of living without fear of judgment, which in USA means how rich you are and various status symbols that operates much like a jailers key ring, but most it means exclusion. Layered on top of that are race and other idiotic moral "issues" to keep the population divided of rubbish rather than voting for medium to long term goals of economic and happiness security. Brazil is so much more than cheap pussy. It's about celebrating life. The bit about the carnival, people spontaneously kissing and not needing various drugs to be happy tells the underlying story. And that's what I'm finding with Brazilian friends, a certain openness, generosity and not being over-caffeinated and perpetually pissed off. The "experience" of BR women GFE is because they are happier generally rather than US women.

Here we, as men, are easily sexually satisfied (without guilt or shame) and far more chilled. It's fun reading the posts. It's like a wide-eyed child just coming off a fun ride, so the guys here are mostly smiling, happy and open to forming friends and mostly full of good will because the craziness is abated. I see this in Thailand as well. We discover a new "us".

In any event, the USD is cooked. Weaponizing the dollar (and compliant western banks) with Russia sealed its fate. OPEC is no longer exclusively USD. Brazil is now trading outside of USD as are so may others. This destroys one of the key reasons of investing in the USA, it was the one thing that made putting up with the ever growing list of internal daily failings (endemic homelessness, weekly mass shootings, collapse of belief in institutions, no health care safety net, sex prison, crass commercialism, social inequality and unrest)..[/QUOTE]This was a fantastic post, thank you.

The Week in Baseball / Centro Prive patrol, Safira at Emporio do banho, Bia at Darkroom, 116,202.

First, over the past few weeks, Vagabundo has had his regular harem of mulatas with huge tits, like Nina Deponca who pairs well with Nia Nacci for a big four tit, six hole dupla, triple 69.

Nina came over Monday, and we did a pernoite last Thursday at Motel White House in bem zona norte. I pay her 300 or 400 for a few hours or overnight. The hotel was about 240 all in with food and drinks, hidromassagem.

A normal regular I pay 800 for 4 nights on the regular weekdays.

I had a negra Easter Sunday Easter bunny with huge, natural, 36 DD tits, I shall call her Jada Fire, because we fucked 4 times, all bare, often for up to 45. Minutes on a pernoite on Easter Sunday nights. A 22 years old. I shall have to dupla her with Nina DePonca.

Well today, I went into centro on the 14 h20 bus with a ISG wingman who is staying in Mediterraneo / Transamerica. The address is Av Gastao Senges 395. Wingman has a smaller suite on a lower floor for 500 USD a month, a good rate, for non high season.

We got off at Av Pres Wilson 147, and foot patrolled over to Emporio de Banho. 3 d floor had 3, none to our liking. 2nd floor had 3, and wingman picked safira, a branca, falsa magra. 140 r for a half hour. He reported mechanical performance.

Vagabundo, our Rabbinical hero, went and got a cheap haircut (30 r), and got the line up from Darkroom, and seeing Bia, he went up to Darkroom having collected a somewhat disappointed wingman at Spoleto. I chose an hour with Bia. Wingman being impatient bolted for 116.

Well BIA has a nice ass, a deep throat, and we get along well, so we fucked twice, she gave me a good massage, and Vagabundo was quite satisfied. 150 for the hour.

In terms of centro day date logistics, I recommend:

4 hours in suite com hidro at Motel Sheik.

Followed by lunch at.

Contemporaneo, a nice lunch and dinners spot down the street on Rua Gomes Freire.

Then, after Bia at Darkroom, I went over to 116, the Secret Terma, now not a secret because of the detectives on this board.

Wingman, not being the most communicative of players in the Swiss Navy Intel section, had already bolted for 4 x 4. Did I mention inmates who Anyway, at 116, there were 20 girls, including one I would say is an 8, morena from Padre Miguel, who would not give me her number. I quickly moved on to 202, where actual porn is shot.

Vagabundo headed back to Barra on the metro. So it goes.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2809394]Been commuting to sex prison (USA) and have a reasonable idea of comparison. The first is that many folks have become used to banging their heads on the wall, and it's only when we stop we realize how much it hurts and how unproductive it is. A little below on this board was the comment of living without fear of judgment, which in USA means how rich you are and various status symbols that operates much like a jailers key ring, but most it means exclusion. Layered on top of that are race and other idiotic moral "issues" to keep the population divided of rubbish rather than voting for medium to long term goals of economic and happiness security. Brazil is so much more than cheap pussy.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you are seeing. Brazil like almost any country has the same stratification the United States has. My affluent Brazilian friends and colleagues have the same quest for living in the right communities, sending their kids to the right schools, driving nice cars and taking nice vacations. Many of them also have the added luxury of hiring inexpensive help for their homes. You can also tell they want their daughters to get educated, not sleep around and find a nice boy with a future. This while the sons take advantage of the pleasures Brazil offers a man.

You are simply seeing the bottom strata of a relatively poor society and determining there is little or no materialism or status seeking. Yes, the Brazilians are happy and open. They have also had an historically libertine culture. However, so many Brazilians have nothing else but to live for the moment. If Brazil had Western affluency and similar social spending, the pool of women working in the sex industry would shrink.

If you go to poor Asian and African countries, you see similar joy in the small things in life. The women are also more open. But don't get confused. A Western man with Western means has privilege in these countries.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2809426]I enjoy your posts about life in Brazil, but I'm honestly sick and tired of this "de-dollarization" BS. If I hadn't heard the same nonsense for the last 30 years, I might've been inclined to take it more seriously, but Russia, Brazil, India? Seriously? Russia's economy is in a toilet, waiting for a flush. India's economy is 1/7th of ours, Brazil's is 1/10th, South Africa's is not even in the picture. China is a serious contender, but yuan (like all BRIC's currencies except SA) is not convertible, plus yuan's share is meager 7% of world transactions. More importantly, none of our allies is rushing out of the dollar world, and there is no indication that it's going to change. Dollar is safe and will be for a long time.[/QUOTE]Interestingly, there are some Russian supporters on the Ukraine threads proclaiming the end of the Dollar. The thing about Dollar hegemony is that it's not derived from what many people think. When politicians like Lula, Xi and Putin are talking about ending Dollar dominance in trade, they are blowing smoke either from ignorance or to manipulate.

You hit upon an important point. The Yuan is not fully convertible. Capital controls make it a no-go.

Where most people get it wrong is that they think the medium of trade is important. The store of value is far more important. The Saudis can say pay me in Bitcoin for our oil. (Let's just assume there is enough bitcoin liquidity.) Let's go further and say the Saudis just hold Bitcoin on account (unrealistic). Someone who sold the Bitcoin now has Dollars, Pounds or Euros or whatever. They need to spend it or invest it. Much of that money winds up in the United States and a lot of it will wind up in United States treasuries. Why? Because the United States (and Britain) are the most liquid and safe markets in the world.

However, that's not the end of it. For arcane economic reasons, the Chinese don't want you to buy Chinese govt. Bonds (and neither do the Germans really want foreigners buying their govt. Bonds). They will sell you appliances and other goods. They don't want you to store your money there unless it's tied up for a good, long time subject to a host of rules and regulations. The Chinese have too much liquid cash then they know what to do with.

In reality, the Saudis can't consume enough with all those Dollars. Instead, they buy United States (and British) treasuries, real estate, professional golfers and aging soccer players. Perhaps you will see some token gestures of Saudi investment in China. But seriously, why do the Chinese want or need Saudi investment?

I agree this is a good report from Senor PM.

While I respect Senor Xpartan's insights, I do think dedollarization is a important topic, especially under Lula's Brazil.

[URL]https://youtu.be/uzp4u9KMeZQ[/URL]

Take for example, the above.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2809473]This was a fantastic post, thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2809543]Interestingly, there are some Russian supporters on the Ukraine threads proclaiming the end of the Dollar. The thing about Dollar hegemony is that it's not derived from what many people think. When politicians like Lula, Xi and Putin are talking about ending Dollar dominance in trade, they are blowing smoke either from ignorance or to manipulate.[/QUOTE]"The idea of Argentina and Brazil creating a common currency is like two drunks in a ditch huddling together for warmth"- Larry Summers.

China can't be the worlds reserve currency since the government won't let it trade in the open market. They would have to allow it to trade freely for it to have a chance. The dollar is dead man walking. 31 trillion in debt and 2 trillion annual deficits as far as the eye can see. We are doomed. Gold will be the worlds reserve currency again. I just can't say what year it wil happen. The bond market will collapse and interest rates will soar once the world realizes we can't pay the interest on the debt anymore without printing it.

This is an important topic because most of us take advantage of the exchange rate advantages our currencies provide. I think preparation long term for a decline in the USD and likely all western currencies would be prudent. Ill explain my reasoning.

The US is done as the dominant superpower, this administration was the final nail in the coffin and the clock is running down now. The USD was held up as the reserve for no reason other than the trust the rest of the world had in it, but that trust has been shot and what we are seeing now is open rebellion against it. The Yuan will not replace the USD, that is not the intention. The plan is for a basket of currencies backed by various commodities so that no country is elevated into the same position the US is currently in. On top of that is the financial system where trade can be conducted free from US interference is being rapidly built, and its been in development for over a decade now. Its how Russia has managed to deal with the sanctions as well as they have, and its what has given everyone else confidence that now is the time to launch.

The sanctions imposed on Russia showed the world that the US has weaponized the dollar to such an extent that its now untenable. Not only did they try and shut Russia out completely over a border dispute on a continent they are not even on, they confiscated Russian foreign reserves. What is the point of holding dollars or US treasuries if the US Gov can just confiscate them at the drop of a hat? They are already worthless, especially for China who sees the endless anti Chinese rhetoric over Taiwan and should expect the same approach from the US that was used with Russia if conflict breaks out.

Think about this logically from the rest of the worlds perspective. The US prints money and runs up a huge deficit to build and maintain the biggest military machine on the planet, while it pumps money into social programs to keep its citizens under control. It exports its inflation on top of it. To make matters worse, the US then interferes with every nation on the planet, and you will be sanctioned into oblivion regardless of what your people vote for or want. You either get in line with their world order and their cultural programing, or you starve through economic isolation. Sometimes they move beyond that, to the point where they bomb countries and invade under the slightest pretense. Look at the state of the middle east after the last 30 years? Serbia? Afghanistan? Latin America can't sneeze without US diplomats and agents buzzing about.

China and Russia have been doing the opposite. Peace between the Saudis and Iran? China. Peace between the Saudis and Syria? Russia. Peace between Syria and Turkey? Russia. An end to the war in Yemen? China. Meanwhile, the US is refusing to work for a peaceful end to the war in Ukraine, and they have turned it into a massive proxy war at the expense of Ukrainian lives just to try and weaken Russia. The world sees this, knows this, understands what's happening and they are sick of it. Its not Russia that is isolated here, or China. Its the US who is becoming isolated by this, the only people paying attention right now are the anglo countries and their vassal states in the EU. We are at the stage where the US is bombing German infrastructure, and the Germans won't even talk about it. What an ally you have in America these days. Its not the America of old anymore, this is a different beast and a different people.

Lastly everyone tries to find comfort in GDP figures and they think these developing countries pose no threat. GDP is a loaded number, GDP with purchasing power parity included paints the true picture. When that is taken into account? China is already the biggest, most productive economy in the world. India is third, they are bigger than Japan already. Russia is 6th, right behind Germany. Brazil is 10, with Indonesia already in the top 10 and likely to join BRICS with Iran and the Saudis. Purchasing power is all that matters, because that tells you who can produce the most goods when its needed most.

The US is in decline, and the dollar will not be the reserve currency within 10 years. America is going to get rocked when they happens, because the extent of the money printing will be felt by the poor and the middle class the most. That does not mean that there will be a sole superpower to replace the US, its going nowhere anytime soon, but its going to be a multipolar world again and the days of America doing what they do without consequences is rapidly coming to an end.

Xpartan has good points, but sooner rather than later China and others will form a monetary union or at least a trading currency. They have many problems, but there are overland pipes lines down to China from Russian and from Iran to Western China. And they are terrified of the dollar and West after the Russian thing. If you add unfunded State and private pensions into the USA, kited MUNI's and so on, it's not looking great. As to a store of wealth (excellent point, and reminder to everyone that upon death your convertibility is worthless, so use it now rather than in posterity), that is indeed getting hard. Paper certificate of precious metals is iffy, bonds are being raped by inflation plus who knows anything for sure with all the contagion, swaps, and accounts being marked to fantasy rather than market. Financial accounts being "restated" (ie fraud) is common. Land you say? The Detroit and Gary (Indiana) describe many major cities that rest on many fragile assumptions. It's a messy place. I'd bet on hydrocarbons (the physics of Wh / Kg is a b1tch), food and some critical logistics like firms. Even pharma is likely to undergo radical changes as genetics gets serious. I know that the obesity / diabetes drug companies invest in junk food, cynical, but get both sides of the trade! Precious metal miners and large oil are durable, and the Gen Z need to get realistic about that and the need for nuclear. Physics trumps virtue signalling bullshit. Of course if somebody creates a radical order of magnitude battery of cheap, plentiful materials like Graphene, X, kryptonite (as in Superman fantasy) then things radically change.

Finding durable wealth is really hard work. I've had a bit of luck in BR, but only because the Real is smashed and there are inherently valuable nice bits of real estate with inelastic demand that applies in many places if you can afford to get in. What happens when AI / outsourcing / offshoring etc creates a sea of poverty and people that are of no use for tax (they don't earn anything), are not needed for the military and structurally surplus? Or the baby boomers all hitting the exits with overpriced real estate and the 40 year Ponzi scheme starts to unravel and bank balance sheets are shown to be the fraud they often are?

Sure, BR has the same money stratification, but it's not tainted with the puritanical blame, shame and guilt of USA or UK. The well off folks (and some old money) I know here in BR are far more humble than USA, they remind me of Europe where wealth is discreet and does not imply being some superior being like the USA. Their kids went to Ivy leagues, but did not want to stay in the US. Too stultifying, a bunch of preening peacocks was how they described it. The people here are generally nice and spontaneous. People are allowed to be human beings. And you don't get weekly shootings or anywhere near the degree of ubiquitous homelessness and the rust belt. It's way better than the crushing poverty of India and places like Mexico City and some fucked up places in South America and Africa, or for that matter a lot of Eastern Europe that is a wasteland of ignorance, graft, pollution, de-population and lack of hope. I've traveled widely and think this place is a real economy and real country (unlike Argentina that is a failed state) that can feed itself and has manufacturing of pharma and other essentials, even a jet aircraft company and huge oil producer.

I'm very cautious with dollars. What is more important is companies that make something inherently valuable and can price it in whatever AND have pricing power.

Vagabundo, you greedy man. 3 big titted Amazonians is 9 holes and being licked and kissed in every way, a sensual overload. How do you last? Are you superman? Now THAT is a good investment of money, that let me again remind everyone has finite convertibility between now and death and chasing wonderful experiences and joy is an art form our Christian work ethic brainwashing robbed many people of.

I would remind all that we have an entirely separate thread dedicated to discussing money matters called "Real v. Dollar and other currency issues". Let's remember to post in the correct spaces depending what the subject matter is, especially if the message is a "deep dive".

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2809546]I agree this is a good report from Senor PM.

While I respect Senor Xpartan's insights, I do think dedollarization is a important topic, especially under Lula's Brazil.

[URL]https://youtu.be/uzp4u9KMeZQ[/URL]

Take for example, the above.[/QUOTE]So what is Lula going to do? What can he really do?

His little dance with Xi makes sense if you realize China helped his Presidential tenure a great deal by buying a lot of Brazilian commodities. There's two issues with today's environment. I don't think there is going to be another commodities boom like the 2000's. China has a decelerating economy that won't require as many commodities. They are certainly not going to stockpile them.

Any explanation? I think looks wise they are just a little better than the girls in privês. Though, that is subjective.

I don't get it.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2809821]Any explanation? I think looks wise they are just a little better than the girls in privs. Though, that is subjective.

I don't get it.[/QUOTE]It depends where you are looking and it depends on your taste.

The Barravips escorts definitely look top shelf. Some also have great reviews to back it up.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2809821]Any explanation? I think looks wise they are just a little better than the girls in privs. Though, that is subjective.

I don't get it.[/QUOTE]Do they really look better or is it because they hired a professional and did a photoshoot? I do not get into the glamour. I would rather see a normal photo of the chick.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2809821]Any explanation? I think looks wise they are just a little better than the girls in privs. Though, that is subjective.

I don't get it.[/QUOTE]It's called [B]greed[/B]. And if somebody will pay it? [B]Profit[/B]!

Coming to RJ on Sunday. Is there ony places, boates Sunday night worth going? Haven't been to Rio for a while. Mostly staying in SP, which kinda sucks on Sundays.

[QUOTE=Safado007;2809897]Coming to RJ on Sunday. Is there ony places, boates Sunday night worth going? Haven't been to Rio for a while. Mostly staying in SP, which kinda sucks on Sundays.[/QUOTE]Total suck fest (not in a good way) on Sunday. I'the suggest trying Seeking Arrangement. I had an amazing date on a Sunday when all the good places are closed.

The future of the dollar and western currencies is a big deal for us here. It is the enabler of our lifestyle, namely sexual and lifestyle arbitrage, just as corporations offshore for better value. We are doing the same on our personal household level. Unless you want to live in over-priced real estate with zero healthcare in the sex prison USA (I'm not talking tourists here), this topic directly relates to quality of life and the joy of daily blow jobs by beautiful young women. Wayne Roberts has a few good points, I think a basket of currencies like SDR's already used by airlines (but controlled by IMF) of commodities producers that have pricing power and strong international demand is a great start. I'd go further and directly invest in companies that do that. During the middle of 2020, big oil stocks were available at a fire sale. And yes, the GDP figures are rubbish, just as the US unemployment and inflation rates are made up nonsense. If I knew how, I'd love some exposure to Russian and Iranian infrastructure (already into China). Taiwan is a great place. If there is a conflict there will be some great buying (use a local company and not US listed owners).

Purchasing power is local currency is indeed the key, that people forget. Keep in mind Visa and Mastercard are quick to cut off funds to political dissidents just as USA did to Russia. If you were in their shoes, would you allow your entire country and FOREX and reserves to be held to ransom by a foreign power run by some Washington DC swamp critters and their trade front-running buddies they are in a revolving door job with? So yes, I can see diverse basket of currencies in a new exchange system outside of the USA sphere of influence, such as an expanded Union Pay. The USA centric model of sending the gun boats into Hong Kong (like the British did) or Taiwan is the last vestiges of a Roman Empire run by some corrupt cronies. It's painful and sad to see the Republic debased, but until people demand that schools to teach critical thinking as vaccination against lies and bullshit, and reject two-party binary & bullshit social "issue" distractions vote for medium-long term economic progress, it's game over. No matter how poor, parents in Asia spend a huge amount of their time and money to make their kids think rationally, defer gratification and get good grades. A look at most US high schools show undisciplined and ignorant mutts roaming around.

Now prives and private girls: I've had great success with privates in price and quality. The clubs are basically hotels and overpriced drinks that take a huge cut from the girls. They offer a concentration of horny guys with wallets to the girls, but at a price.

Like Vagabund, I not only have a black book (should be called a pink book) but a sort of revolving live in group of regulars who know my preferences and boy oh boy, they deliver, shattering orgasms and walk around naked or in thigh highs that I keep a stock of and give them $ to buy good bras (that are expensive) and make them laugh. Looking after them gets a huge rate of return. Now this is an investment class I can recommend. Diversification (busty, athletic, rainbow colors, some young, some highly experienced MILF's) plus anal, vaginal, BJ and threesomes by the poolside, the beach, in bed and even on a hiking trail. I have a another theory that a lot of guys in sex prison become sexually dysfunctional from lack of daily use and the terrible effects of obesity and bad health from bad food, alcohol and stress that creates jelly dick. Happily I wake up most days with a raging boner and beautiful young lady (or two) that take genuine pride in delivering, a sort f female pride of their power over a man in passion and his need to come back to them for more. The trick is that it is there on tap without ridiculous conditions in a nice surrounding with no time limit. The 30 minute fuck hutch is too mechanical, though it can be useful for talent spotting and sometimes the thrill of the hunt and surprise. It is horny in front of a mirror watching myself balls deep in a 19 year old as she smiles at me and spontaneously kisses, because she is happy with youth and doing what nature deliberately created us for, it's what living creatures do. And it's fun.

Seriously: good health, great clean, organic food, plenty of sex, kisses and hugs, low stress, ocean views, friends: any other situation is kind of nuts.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2809900]The future of the dollar and western currencies is a big deal for us here. [/QUOTE]It's rare, but I agree with Cane, even though I've only reading 3 sentences of your post. "I would remind all that we have an entirely separate thread dedicated to discussing money matters called "Real v. Dollar and other currency issues". " It's quite boring to read about your currency analyzes.

Regarding Sundays in Rio. There is one option, VM. Mentioned dozens of times. Sundays in VM are perfect for the newbies.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2809900]The future of the dollar and western currencies is a big deal for us here. It is the enabler of our lifestyle, namely sexual and lifestyle arbitrage, just as corporations offshore for better value. [/QUOTE]I agree it's a big deal, but to a point. I remember $1. 5 reals to $1 and so did vacationing and mongering in Brazil hurt me back then. Well, I really don't remember any pain, which tells me no, it didn't. If anything, travel today is more expensive than ever. Because Covid.

Let's just remember that Brazileiras are excellent adjusters. They won't let currency fluctuations eat into their profits, LOL.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2809909]It's rare, but I agree with Cane, even though I've only reading 3 sentences of your post. "I would remind all that we have an entirely separate thread dedicated to discussing money matters called "Real v. Dollar and other currency issues". " It's quite boring to read about your currency analyzes. [/QUOTE]With all due respect to Sperto and Cane, I find by PahllusMaximus to be one of the best writers on this site, with very meaningful and valuable life advice for how to maintain life balance and happiness while embracing the hobby in Rio (with financial thoughts mixed in). It is all connected. His posts are definitely not just about currency exchange. Either way though PahllusMaximus I appreciate your world view and it has made a positive impact in my life in Brazil for certain.

I just spent 9 days in Rio and am leaving my thoughts below. Background is an early 40's guys who has been mongering for quite a while, but mostly in Colombia of late.

Lodging.

I had a 2 bed / 2 bath airbnb in Copacabana, close to Leme Beach for $80/ nt. It was a bit dated, but plenty of room and the doormen were cool with my 1 girl a day or every other day incall.

Termas.

4 x4: Went 2 times. Once on a Friday night around 6 pm and there were 30 girls and 15 guys. I can't recall prices exactly, but I think entry was 60 R, beers / water 20 R, and then girls*420 R to 490 R for an hour based on the size of room you choose. I had a tall blonde with hazel eyes and a few tattoos named Safira. Had two rounds and tippedSecond time was on a Wednesday around 7 pm and oh my it was packed! 35 girls and 40 guys, including a couple large groups of Americans. I had a session planned for later that evening so just got a couple numbers and made out with Safira. On a side note, they offer the robe, but you do not need to wear.

Monte Carlo: Went 3 times, sessioning 2 x. Entry is 130 R, beers* 20 R, room is 150 R to 190 R depending on size, and girl is 400 R for 1 hour. Great line up every time I went which was usually 5-7 pm. Usually 15-20 girls and only 5-10 guys so good mix. A really flacca chica named Bia was great while a lighter skinned mulatta named*Katarine was not. When we got to the room Katarine would not do DFK or BBBJ which is almost just assumed in Brazil. Also had the small condoms that you sometimes get in Brazil and way too much lube. The only other thing I'd note is that they added an extra beer (20 R, $4) to my tab each time. I highlighted it, but didn't want to make a scene over $4. Watch your tabs guys. *.

Clinicas:

The first three are all in the 583 building on the map.

Sala 401: Tended to have the best girls overall I think. Cost was 150 R for 30 minutes or 200 R for 60 minutes. Had a nice 30 yr old name Taisa.

Sala 302: One day was fuglies (Saturday?) and then went on a Friday and had some cuties. Cost is same as 401, but had some suites which were 20 R more. Had a really energetic girl from Bahia named Isabella.

Sala 206: Ugliest girls, but also cheapest, starting at 100 R for 15 minutes and I think 120 R for 30 minutes. I didn't even sit down.

Clinica de Rio (in Barre): This was way out in Barre, so a 45 minute or so ride that my buddy found. It was in an office building which was a bit weird, and set up like a regular massage spa with scents, oils, etc. It was very clean and professional so I wasn't sure what to expect, but they had 8-10 women, most in the 25-35 year old range. Cost was 350 HR and both of our girls did CIM without asking and multiple pops. My girl went to town on the oral and despite me giving her a heads up stayed down there after climax, swallowing everything. For round 2 we did regular sex covered.

Bars:

MABS: Went once on a Friday or Saturday. Talked with a couple girls whose prices ranged from $60/ HR up to $200/ HR with most starting in dollars as opposed to Realis. Found the hottest girl and best*sex of my trip there. 3 hrs for 1000 R. She was a real estate agent from SP who had fallen on some rough times with work and family to came to RJ for 2 months to work. A natural 9 in my book with beautiful skin, 5'4" and natural 38 dd, 26,38 body. Did all night later in the week, going 11 pm to 6 am for 1500 R. Multiple pops and craziness. I know I overpaid a*little, but I really liked her and she*was starting at 2500 R which she said she normally gets (Scandallo prices!

Casablanca: Also went two times, once on a Thursday and once on a Friday. It was better on Thursday with 35 girls and maybe 15 guys* around 11. Cost is 100 R entrance which gets you 2 drinks. Beers were 20-32 R (seemed to vary based on server) and girl drinks 55 R (Sex on the beach) to 77 R for gin / tonic and 110 R for a small champagne bottle. The servers and girls were pushy at first, but backed off when I raised the issue. You negotiate with the girl (most start at 500-600 R an hour or 800-100 R for two) and then pay 150 R for a room there or 200 R to exit (mixed messages on exit fee as some girls said they needed to work until 5 am and others said they could leave with me). I just got numbers and didn't pull as both times I was too tuckered out*.

Mosaico: Cost is 240 R for an hour. Doesn't really get going until after 11 pm, but is where the girls go from the Termas when finished. Went on a Saturday ( 20 girls) and on a Tuesday ( 12 girls). *Perla Negra: Never went as it's way out in Barre, but everyone raved about it. It doesn't get going until after* 12 am and Wed-Fri are best.

Girls overall.

Having been with many latinas around Central and South America I can say without a doubt that Brazilianas enjoy sex the most and are the best in bed. First they try to choke you with their tongue, then they try to break your dick off, then they try to get you to sweat to death or die from multiple climaxes. It was not unusual to go through 3 condoms in a session and half the girls did CIM without asking. They literally will not let you leave the room unless you're satisfied and they also want to be satisfied themselves. It is sports fucking at its purest whereas I think the women in Colombia, Venezuela, and Panama are a little more sensual. *The girl's bodies were also much more natural with few fake tits and even fewer fake asses (SP may be different). I don't think the women's faces, style, or fitness is anywhere near as attractive as Colombia, but the women were much more laid back (beach lifestyle) and easy to get along with. Outside of my MABs girl the others did not dress up much, which was fine by me. *It was around 50/50 on whether they spoke another language, but I was able to alter my Spanish enough to be understood. Some women had worked abroad and knew a little English. *.

Other.

- Lunch and dinner can be easily had for 40-100 R for basic meal and beer. If you feel like spending more there are great steak and sushi places in Ipanema and Leblon.

- Normal people watching was good at the various Belmonte bars.

- I enjoyed walking the beach every day which was good exercise and also good people watching. The people start going to*the beach EARLY, like 9 am and then it starts to curtail off around 2 pm. The beaches are massive and it can take an hour to walk from Leme Beach to Leblon.

- Uber is super cheap and convenient.

- Watch out for trannies. In Brazil I found that they could be much more convincing than other countries, often travel with women, and do not announce themselves (in person, on Tinder, or when texting). *.

- Saturday seems to be quite slow for some reason. I think because most girls treat our hobby as a M-F job whereas in Colombia it's a side hustle for many that they do on weekends. *.

-Chicago.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2809865]Do they really look better or is it because they hired a professional and did a photoshoot? I do not get into the glamour. I would rather see a normal photo of the chick.[/QUOTE]I agree to some extent about the glamor. The top shelf escort sites have some genuinely pretty girls. And one thing is for sure. Pretty girls like having their photo taken.

I like the escorts who post videos because I can get a better take on their natural beauty.

Regardless, it is always advisable to get a recommendation and check out some reviews.

Solid reportage Chicago. I enjoyed reading your informative post. It is most interesting to note that your report confirms what a few other BM's have recently said, good looking girls are back again at Monte Carlo. This is great news because the last time I went there the quality was not session worthy and I left empty handed. So, I am looking forward to going back to MC one more time to see for myself what's going on and what has changed since my previous visit. , It is all about the girls. Nothing else matters.

Your Mabs SP real estate agent turned bar room queen sounds like a great catch. Sure, you gave her more than most Mabs girls would have settled for, but without pictures it is impossible to say much more about. The only important thing is that the girl was very good in bed and you had a great time with her.

The last time I was in SP I fell into the inverse situation to yours with a Rio girl who travels to SP every Monday to work at Bomboa and then she heads back to RJ late every Friday night to be with her mother and daughter. Her tragic story was her husband was murdered one night while on the job managing a 7/11. She was gorgeous and she fucked me like she meant it, kkk, so I saw her once a week during the 6 weeks was in town.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2810078]MABS: Went once on a Friday or Saturday. Talked with a couple girls whose prices ranged from $60/ HR up to $200/ HR with most starting in dollars as opposed to Realis. Found the hottest girl and best*sex of my trip there. 3 hrs for 1000 R. She was a real estate agent from SP who had fallen on some rough times with work and family to came to RJ for 2 months to work. A natural 9 in my book with beautiful skin, 5'4" and natural 38 dd, 26,38 body. Did all night later in the week, going 11 pm to 6 am for 1500 R. Multiple pops and craziness. I know I overpaid a*little, but I really liked her and she*was starting at 2500 R which she said she normally gets (Scandallo prices![/QUOTE]Nice and detailed report. You must have the new record, 1000 reais. That's amazing that she asked for 2500 reais. She must have thought that she was the "ultima coca-cola do deserto".
Have fun!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2810099]Nice and detailed report. You must have the new record, 1000 reais. That's amazing that she asked for 2500 reais. She must have thought that she was the "ultima coca-cola do deserto".
Have fun![/QUOTE]Ha, I don't know. It's the first prepago I've been with who had a LinkedIn that's for sure. She said she's only working because real estate work is bad and her father's very sick. She's the youngest and all other siblings have kids so she's trying to make as much as she can in short time to pay for his treatment. I did tell her she was expensive for 'Sex in Brazil' and she became quite offended that I compared her to other girls. Now I'm in the doghouse kkk.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2810149]Ha, I don't know. It's the first prepago I've been with who had a LinkedIn that's for sure. She said she's only working because real estate work is bad and her father's very sick. She's the youngest and all other siblings have kids so she's trying to make as much as she can in short time to pay for his treatment. I did tell her she was expensive for 'Sex in Brazil' and she became quite offended that I compared her to other girls. Now I'm in the doghouse kkk.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter what you payed as long as you're satisfied, even though everything above 150 reais is overpriced IMO. All GPS gave stories about bills, helping parents and expensive treatments.

You should try your luck somewhere else. Mabs is for the newbies and the old alcoholic farts.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2810078]I just spent 9 days in Rio and am leaving my thoughts below. Background is an early 40's guys who has been mongering for quite a while, but mostly in Colombia of late.

[/QUOTE]Excellent report!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2810156]It doesn't matter what you payed as long as you're satisfied, even though everything above 150 reais is overpriced IMO. All GPS gave stories about bills, helping parents and expensive treatments.

You should try your luck somewhere else. Mabs is for the newbies and the old alcoholic farts.[/QUOTE]Understood. I just wrapped up the third session with her. I'm not someone who focuses on a cost per fuck, I more so focus on value for the experience and think there are some women who are worth more than 150 R. I never bought into the whole 'sex is a commodity and you should never pay more than x. ' If that was the case we'd just sit at home and jerk off for free.

I did try my luck elsewhere. Hit up a lot of places as you saw in my post. Some very dirt cheap places like 100 R in Sala 206 of the 583 building, but I wouldn't touch those women with a 10 foot pole.

Thanks for the report Chicago.

Reading what you've written- it seems like if one doesn't have too much time to wander around and wants a quick in and out with a hot chick then the Clinica at Sala 401 is the best bet?

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2810078]I just spent 9 days in Rio and am leaving my thoughts below. Background is an early 40's guys who has been mongering for quite a while, but mostly in Colombia of late.

Lodging.

I had a 2 bed / 2 bath airbnb in Copacabana, close to Leme Beach for $80/ nt. It was a bit dated, but plenty of room and the doormen were cool with my 1 girl a day or every other day incall.

Termas.

4 x4: Went 2 times. Once on a Friday night around 6 pm and there were 30 girls and 15 guys. I can't recall prices exactly, but I think entry was 60 R, beers / water 20 R, and then girls*420 R to 490 R for an hour based on the size of room you choose. I had a tall blonde with hazel eyes and a few tattoos named Safira. Had two rounds and tippedSecond time was on a Wednesday around 7 pm and oh my it was packed! 35 girls and 40 guys, including a couple large groups of Americans. I had a session planned for later that evening so just got a couple numbers and made out with Safira..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2810156]All GPS gave stories about bills, helping parents and expensive treatments.[/QUOTE]Since time immemorial. In one of my favorite movies, "Life," Claude goes with a hooker in a bar for $2. He comes back and tells Ray he went with her because the girl said her mom needed an operation. They took up a collection at the church but were still short. Ray said, "So they were $2 short huh?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2810156]You should try your luck somewhere else. Mabs is for the newbies and the old alcoholic farts.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I was very disappointed with Mabs last time I was in Rio. I wish there was a better place to pick up freelancers. Oh how I long for the days of Help:

Great to see you had a great time at MC Chicago. Good to have someone else be able to vouch for the current lineup. I was with two friends and we all found a treat or two and one of them is super picky. He chose Valeska who is a school girl flaca spinner with a vixen personality. I had her too and was not disappointed. You will be able to pic her out because she is so tiny with short hair.

Carol was great too. She has long curly dirty blond hair. That girl loves sex and very good on BJ as well. Pretty sure Bia, that Chicago mentions, is one of the other girls I had. If she is a bit on the taller side (5-6?) Moreno, and super slim but with tits and ass of a brasileira. Recommend her also.

Def check out Monte Carlo. If you like slim chicks that can bring the GFE.

Thank you for the kind words Nebulousity. Quite a few people have PM'd me. The end game is happiness for for members here, that includes sex and all the important trimmings and enabling factors we control, like exercise, mental and physical health. As opposed to not becoming fuck hutch bunny in a quasi-industrial setting or mindlessly rutting like barnyard animals. Or one of those unhealthy and/or geriatric alcoholics we see in seedy bars.

This is NOT a moral thing, but rather about keeping it fun and high quality experiences that put a spring in our step and keep it exciting. Our brain reward circuits do have limits, there are neural chemicals and receptors to take into account. We are all different, but there are lot of guys that get "nutted out" ignoring this, especially coming to Rio for say 7 days and being worn out after 2 days after back to back sessions.

Think of it like a cafeteria versus a small, high quality restaurant and bit of fasting thrown in. I certainly love prime young women and a good life. Nothing wrong with that. Beats the White Plains NY commute or crass commercialism on NYC and conditional, high priced pussy. And the American women with all their fake porno type words, thinking guys are silly enough to believe it (many are) and machine gun style fellatio. Give me my 19 year olds, slow, full length, suction, a bit of humming, plenty of balls fondling and CIM. Done on the beach at sunset, drink in hand, sound of the booming surf, and at peace creates a slow moving feeling that ends in massive blasts and a happy GFE giggling at her efforts and sharing a kiss and drink and walking hand in hand. It's like been a teenager again. This is what we should aim for, being happy, confident men feeling the joy of the company of beautiful young women full of life in a good setting.

Thanks for the confirmation on Monte Carlo Chicago. I'll take a peek out of curiosity.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2810078]I just spent 9 days in Rio and am leaving my thoughts below. Background is an early 40's guys who has been mongering for quite a while, but mostly in Colombia of late[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your experiences in RJ. Very detailed and good read. Look forward to future reports.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2810078] On a side note, they offer the robe, but you do not need to wear. [/QUOTE]It used to be that robing was the DeFacto standard. Going back a couple of years this has changed making robing optional. I tend to find it more relaxing in robe and I feel you get more attention because it shows your "Ready to do Business" as opposed to wearing civilian clothes.

[B]So, in Termas where offered do you tend to go for the robe or not? So, what's your opinion pros or cons of the Robe?[/B]

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2810449]Yeah, I was very disappointed with Mabs last time I was in Rio. I wish there was a better place to pick up freelancers. Oh how I long for the days of Help:[/QUOTE]To be clear, the consensus from the group I was running with was that MABs selection was poor during the trip, so agreeing with others. I just saw the one girl that floated my boat walk in within 5 minutes of sitting down. I didn't go back to MABs after.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2810542]Thanks for sharing your experiences in RJ. Very detailed and good read. Look forward to future reports.

It used to be that robing was the DeFacto standard. Going back a couple of years this has changed making robing optional.....

[B]So, in Termas where offered do you tend to go for the robe or not? So, what's your opinion pros or cons of the Robe?[/B][/QUOTE]In 4 x4 I didn't wear a robe as I wasn't always sure I'd session and was also short on time the last trip. In MC I wore the robe, keeping briefs underneath and making sure to have what I sometimes need in the pockets (mouthwash, good condoms, Sildenafil).

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2810564]In 4 x4 I didn't wear a robe as I wasn't always sure I'd session and was also short on time the last trip. In MC I wore the robe, keeping briefs underneath and making sure to have what I sometimes need in the pockets (mouthwash, good condoms, Sildenafil).[/QUOTE]And folks don't you forget your cameras hahaha!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2810594]And folks don't you forget your cameras hahaha![/QUOTE]Actually I figured out halfway thru our visit that you can bring your phone in the club and carry discretely in your robe. Was able to gather phone numbers of two girls I liked plus used for translate once in the club (don't need that often).

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2810623]Actually I figured out halfway thru our visit that you can bring your phone in the club and carry discretely in your robe. Was able to gather phone numbers of two girls I liked plus used for translate once in the club (don't need that often).[/QUOTE]You do not need to carry it discretely. You can carry it in your hand and use it in the open. Hell, I used to carry a video camera before phones had cameras and before cell phones were widely used.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2810623]Actually I figured out halfway thru our visit that you can bring your phone in the club and carry discretely in your robe. Was able to gather phone numbers of two girls I liked plus used for translate once in the club (don't need that often).[/QUOTE]Yes, I had my phone for translate and to get numbers. Girls were very willing to give numbers and nearly every girl I sesioned with asked to put her number in my phone. The rates they offered outside depended on where I met them with most of the massage girls being willing to meet for 150 to 300 R / HR and Terma girls for 250 R to 400 R / HR. Discounts for multiple hours, with most girls doing 2 hrs for 300 to 600 R in Copa and paying for their own taxi.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2810542]Thanks for sharing your experiences in RJ. Very detailed and good read. Look forward to future reports.

It used to be that robing was the DeFacto standard. Going back a couple of years this has changed making robing optional. I tend to find it more relaxing in robe and I feel you get more attention because it shows your "Ready to do Business" as opposed to wearing civilian clothes.

[B]So, in Termas where offered do you tend to go for the robe or not? So, what's your opinion pros or cons of the Robe?[/B][/QUOTE]I always shake my head in disbelief when I see guys in street clothes in a terma. Come on, termas are expensive, it's supposed to be a (somewhat) luxury experience, and besides, why would you make it harder for a girl to rub her naked buttcheeck against your dick and harass you in the boite? I guess it's OK when you're short of time, but I just wouldn't go to a terma if I'm short of time. I like to take my time. I even used to take off my underwear to remove every obstacle to a close contact, but as their robes are getting smaller (LOL), the underwear stays these days. But that's the only compromise I'm willing to make, kkkk.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2810779]I always shake my head in disbelief when I see guys in street clothes in a terma. Come on, termas are expensive, it's supposed to be a (somewhat) luxury experience, and besides, why would you make it harder for a girl to rub her naked buttcheeck against your dick and harass you in the boite? I guess it's OK when you're short of time, but I just wouldn't go to a terma if I'm short of time. I like to take my time. I even used to take off my underwear to remove every obstacle to a close contact, but as their robes are getting smaller (LOL), the underwear stays these days. But that's the only compromise I'm willing to make, kkkk.[/QUOTE]One of the things I love about a termas (or a German FKK) is to shower and get into a robe (I always ask for a larger one). And I always go commando underneath (no underwear ever). Then you get into the boate and you've got a hottie tugging on your boner or backing her bubble butt ass crack up on your dick! Street clothes in a termas? Hell naw!

Alot of those thugs in the booth next to the DJ in 4 x4 are actual thugs, and some are cops and judges, and some as has been mentioned here are carrying, which is easier in street cloths, and the girls like rubbing their clits on pieces of all types. Some are DEA, some are probably Iranian Navy now a days. Some are Obi Wan and Luke buying their way to points in between.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2810779]I always shake my head in disbelief when I see guys in street clothes in a terma. Come on, termas are expensive, it's supposed to be a (somewhat) luxury experience, and besides, why would you make it harder for a girl to rub her naked buttcheeck against your dick and harass you in the boite? I guess it's OK when you're short of time, but I just wouldn't go to a terma if I'm short of time. I like to take my time. I even used to take off my underwear to remove every obstacle to a close contact, but as their robes are getting smaller (LOL), the underwear stays these days. But that's the only compromise I'm willing to make, kkkk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2811002]Alot of those thugs in the booth next to the DJ in 4 x4 are actual thugs, and some are cops and judges, and some as has been mentioned here are carrying, which is easier in street cloths, and the girls like rubbing their clits on pieces of all types. Some are DEA, some are probably Iranian Navy now a days. Some are Obi Wan and Luke buying their way to points in between.[/QUOTE]Wait so in 4 x4 you're expected to walk around nude in a robe? Personally I wouldn't give a damn. Easier access. What about your feet though and do you get a locker for your things?

I've RTFF for my upcoming trip and missed this little nugget of detail.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2810078]
MABS: Went once on a Friday or Saturday. Talked with a couple girls whose prices ranged from $60/ HR up to $200/ HR with most starting in dollars as opposed to Realis. Found the hottest girl and best*sex of my trip there. 3 hrs for 1000 R. She was a real estate agent from SP who had fallen on some rough times with work and family to came to RJ for 2 months to work. A natural 9 in my book with beautiful skin, 5'4" and natural 38 dd, 26,38 body. Did all night later in the week, going 11 pm to 6 am for 1500 R. Multiple pops and craziness. I know I overpaid a*little, but I really liked her and she*was starting at 2500 R which she said she normally gets (Scandallo prices!
-Chicago.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you waaaaaay over paid. But I am glad you enjoyed yourself! I highly doubt the real estate agent was getting 1 K for 3 hours from anyone else at Mabs, so I am shocked that she wasn't ringing your phone off the hook every single night to try and hook up again!!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2811276]Yeah, you waaaaaay over paid. But I am glad you enjoyed yourself! I highly doubt the real estate agent was getting 1 K for 3 hours from anyone else at Mabs, so I am shocked that she wasn't ringing your phone off the hook every single night to try and hook up again!![/QUOTE]I agree with you on MABs, but she showed me whatsapp messages from Sao Paulo guys paying 2500 for all night so I got a deal compared to them LOL. She didn't message me once without me first engaging and I could see from her whatsapp and IG that she was out to 5 or 6 am and at some very nice places in Leblon and Barra de Tijuca. So certainly with someone.

While I do visit my share of massage parlors for 200 R I don't mind paying more for some quality. I'll leave the cheaper girls to others.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2810863]One of the things I love about a termas (or a German FKK) is to shower and get into a robe (I always ask for a larger one). And I always go commando underneath (no underwear ever). Then you get into the boate and you've got a hottie tugging on your boner or backing her bubble butt ass crack up on your dick! Street clothes in a termas? Hell naw![/QUOTE]I should have asked for a larger robe. I'm 6'1" and a solid 210 lbs. So not that big, but not that small either. The robes were quite tight and I was afraid that the little soldier would be making regular appearances without the underwear. As it was, a couple of the girls saw me popping out and re-arranged the robe to help cover myself. I did ask two to sit on my lap / leg in Monte Carlo and they told me that was not allowed. This was late afternoon, but I imagine things are more liberal later at night.

Background- went with 7 other people, all of us between 25-35 for a bachelor party, stayed in Copacabana in a 8 bedroom rooftop penthouse. First time for all of us.

Day 1 - we went to Monte Carlo Monday around 7 pm. About 15 girls, amazing quality, only 2-3 other customers there. Ended up paying like 800-900 R, can't remember, this included entry, Drinks, and a 1 hour session. Around 11:00 pm we picked up girls from Casablanca. They charged between 600-900 R to stay from midnight until 5 am. Everyone did two rounds in the bedroom.

Day 2-Did the touristy stuff in the daytime with the statue and sugarloaf. Ended up getting girls from Marakesh around 11:00 pm- same deal.

Day 3- had a mansion pool party setup by an online bachelor party package. It was actually a mansion, about 10 bedrooms and about 6000 sq ft. The main guys name Is Itamar; if you come across him- Use his services, Theres only 3-4 bachelor party package websites for RIO. HES THE MAN. Mansion pool party was lit, it was about a 30 min drive, we had our own DJ, chef, bbq, open bar, and he brought 10 girls. We paid $50 USD each (500 usd total for the 10 party girls- fixed fee) for their presence between 8 of us, you were able to negotiate your own deal to sleep with them. They were the hottest girls we came across in the trip, but charged like $150 USD for one session at the mansion. Only 4 of the boys made a deal. Mansion party went from 2 pm to 10 pm. So decided to call it an early night, very exhausted and chilled at the penthouse.

Day 4- slow day, did haircuts, massages, etc during the day. Went to a proper nightclub at night as part of the bachelor party package, cant remember the name, it had an Italian vibe. Was a pretty nice upscale club and we had a nice VIP table. Some working girls, but none of us really put in the effort to find or talk to one. Left early (2:00 am) which is early for a nightclub, picked up girls from Marakesh, Casablanca, and Dolce vita between 8 of us. Since it was so late, around 3 am, it was slim pickings at the nightclubs, maybe max 5 girls at each maybe but everyone paid 500 or under 500R since it was 3 am and it was only for 2-3 hours tonight.

Day 5- had a yacht party. Same package, DJ, Chef, open bar, with bartender, 10 girls (4 were the same as the mansion party, 6 new ones). Amazing time, noon till 7 pm was the yacht party. Same routine at night, picked up girls between the 3 clubs, between 8 of us around 11-11:30 pm. (600-900 R for 4/5 hours).

Main Takeaways:

-Casablanca was the best club for us, as we got the most girls from there. Dolce Vita is hit or miss, and same with Marakesh. Casablanca had over 25 girls every single night if you go around 11:00 pm- midnight.

-Mabs is crap. Would never get a girl from there, mainly look like drugged up, unfriendly, working girls, no thanks. and theres always only like 5-7 girls there , so its never gonna happen.

-Monte Carlos is the only terma we visited, and it was a GREAT Experience. Unfortunately we were more into bringing girls back to the penthouse and partying for 4-5 hours with them.

- in Comparison to Colombia (been there many times), Brazilian girls provide Wayyyyyyyyy better service, more humble, nicer bodies, and it's about 30% cheaper. The girls genuinely care about you. Lately, in Colombia the girls are stuck up and service is decent at best. For example in Brazil of the 5 girls I hooked up with, didn't have to ask even one of them for a BBBJ, it was standard. This is unheard of in Colombia.

- I loved Brazil 10 x over Colombia. Only downside is coming from NYC, I don't think I can do that flight as frequently compared to Colombia (14 hours vs. 5 hours nonstop). That's the only downside. But no question Rio is the better option!! This is coming from someone whos been to Colombia about 8-10 times, and first time to Brazil. The girls are simply just nicer and just as hot if not hotter!! And cheaper, what more does a monger want

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2811319]Background- went with 7 other people, all of us between 25-35 for a bachelor party, stayed in Copacabana in a 8 bedroom rooftop penthouse. First time for all of us.[/QUOTE]Nice, detailed report. Good you had a good time in RJ for your first time in Brazil. Interesting using a intermediary to set up Bachelor Party and Yacht Party. Mab's is definitely hit or miss (its heyday has long passed).

NYC to GIG can be hard without a Non-Stop Flight. Hope you can visit again soon despite the long flight.

[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2811166]Wait so in 4 x4 you're expected to walk around nude in a robe? Personally I wouldn't give a damn. Easier access. [b][u]What about your feet though and do you get a locker for your things?[/u][/b]

[b]I've RTFF[/b] for my upcoming trip and missed this little nugget of detail.[/QUOTE] You RTFF? Quick Search Results.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2777032]I had my luggage in the locker room and the lady who gives you your [b]robe and sandals[/b] looked after it. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2803558]3) The locker lady is a bit, um, jaded. LOL. I didn't see any robes after standing in front of the lockers for a few minutes then went looking for them and got yelled at. [b]Don't worry, she'll come with slippers and your robe.[/b] [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2544626]Greeted at the front desk by a lady who speaks very good English and was quite welcoming. [b]Dropped all my things in the locker, changed into the threadbare robe and dollar store flip flops[/b]. Kept my phone and 200 rs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675927] When you first enter the reception area you are told the pricing structure and then [b]given a locker key with a number.[/b] As I recall, the pricing consisted of your entry, the cost of the room that you choose and the cost of a girl for an hour and you pay before you leave (plus your drinks). [b]I went into the locker room and changed into a robe and flipflops......[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2535235] Bubba Boy on Termas
As a PSA to we few, I have gone so far as to cut and paste Bubba Boy's guide. I concur with all his wisdom, with some notes of my own.

A Termas works like this: You get greeted by a receptionist at the entrance, they will speak English at the places mentioned above, some in Centro may not speak as much but you will get by. [b]She will give you a key to a locker. You go in to the locker room and put everything in there and change into a robe that is provided. That's right a bath robe. You can elect to wear your Calvin Kliens under the robe or you can go commando and let your boys be free. Flip flops are provided for your feet. [/b][/QUOTE]

How much does it matter what time you go to a prive / massagem / clinica?

The received wisdom among Medellin regulars (including me) is that the best time to hit the cheap Centro casas is either at 11 am, or about 1 hour after said establishments open. If you go too early when or after they open, enough girls will not have arrived yet. If you go too late, the lineup will have already been picked clean and run through by the rush of Colombian guys sneaking out of work for a lunch hour session. So you get a sort of "sloppy seconds" effect. The exceptions might be the higher-end, lower-volume casas outside Centro, like Energy and Loutron.

RJ regulars: do you believe that this wisdom holds true for Rio as well? Is the best time to go in the late morning, around 11, or about an hour or so after a given establishment opens? Or are the RJ prives / massagems / clinicas less time-sensitive than their counterparts in the Medellin casas?

Would you say that there is any difference in this regard between the cheaper and more numerous establishments in Centro and their pricier counterparts in Copacabana and elsewhere in the city?

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2811319]Background- went with 7 other people, all of us between 25-35 for a bachelor party, stayed in Copacabana in a 8 bedroom rooftop penthouse. First time for all of us.
[/QUOTE]I have 2 words for you: HOLY SHIT! Looks like you really had a blast.

The only thing that's wrong about your trip is 5 days. I recently had to cut my stay short due to an emergency at home, and it really sucked. You need at least 10 days to enjoy Rio and justify that long flight. Although I do understand you guys were there on a mission. Well, at least your buddy will remember his bachelor party, LOL.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2811328]Nice, detailed report. Good you had a good time in RJ for your first time in Brazil. Interesting using a intermediary to set up Bachelor Party and Yacht Party. Mab's is definitely hit or miss (its heyday has long passed).

NYC to GIG can be hard without a Non-Stop Flight. Hope you can visit again soon despite the long flight.[/QUOTE]AA does fly to GIG in season. Based on the past history, I believe from November to March.

And Delta is about to start in December. Still 10 long hours, though.

It is ok to wear street clothes inside RJ termas. I do 100% of the time. I know the perks from easy access, and yeah, I am a party pooper for not going along with the local tradition, but I still prefer to wear my street clothes when visiting the Termas in order to hold onto my phone in my jean pockets rather than to rely on flimsy terma-robe pockets provided.

Having a phone with me when I am with a terma girl and not worrying about the damn thing slipping out of my robe while I am distracted is very important to me ever since I began to use google translate + whatsapp. So, I will stick to my street clothes when in RJ.

P.S. Macau Saunas customers have to change their clothes before entering the main lounge and pool areas. I don't mind changing my clothes in these joints because a number of them are true 5 star bordellos with 1st class amenities. I mean who would mind taking off their clothes and stepping into a shower with a sexy Vietnamese girl first thing, to get cleaned up properly before putting on your fake silk sauna robe and entering the main areas. Still, one has to be very careful about the phone slipping out of one's pocket when least aware. Ha ha. It has happened to me a couple of times.

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2811319]...... in Comparison to Colombia (been there many times), Brazilian girls provide Wayyyyyyyyy better service, more humble, nicer bodies, and it's about 30% cheaper. The girls genuinely care about you. Lately, in Colombia the girls are stuck up and service is decent at best. For example in Brazil of the 5 girls I hooked up with, didn't have to ask even one of them for a BBBJ, it was standard. This is unheard of in Colombia.

- I loved Brazil 10 x over Colombia. Only downside is coming from NYC, I don't think I can do that flight as frequently compared to Colombia (14 hours vs. 5 hours nonstop). That's the only downside. But no question Rio is the better option!! This is coming from someone whos been to Colombia about 8-10 times, and first time to Brazil. The girls are simply just nicer and just as hot if not hotter!! And cheaper, what more does a monger want[/QUOTE]Great that you had a blast and agree with you for Brazil over Colombia but do you really find the girls cheaper in Brazil?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2811377]I have 2 words for you: HOLY SHIT! Looks like you really had a blast. Well, at least your buddy will remember his bachelor party, LOL.[/QUOTE]And he still wants to get married after that? Me and my wife went to Brazil on our first anniversary and even though I could not partake in the chicks, just seeing them was enough for me to know I did not want to be married anymore. I left the morning we got back.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2811438]It is ok to wear street clothes inside RJ termas. I do 100% of the time. I know the perks from easy access, and yeah, I am a party pooper for not going along with the local tradition, but I still prefer to wear my street clothes when visiting the Termas in order to hold onto my phone in my jean pockets rather than to rely on flimsy terma-robe pockets provided.

Having a phone with me when I am with a terma girl and not worrying about the damn thing slipping out of my robe while I am distracted is very important to me ever since I began to use google translate + whatsapp. So, I will stick to my street clothes when in RJ.[/QUOTE]Clearly a lot of us subscribe to the "When in Rome" philosophy.

I personally prefer to be in a robe like the local men. I also feel it creates a certain fraternité as the French put it. You can also get down to business quickly.

(I am tall, but I have nice legs. LOL.)

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2811553]Clearly a lot of us subscribe to the "When in Rome" philosophy.
[/QUOTE]I subscribe to the "When in Rome" philosophy too, just not in this case. Kkk.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2811553]Clearly a lot of us subscribe to the "When in Rome" philosophy.

I personally prefer to be in a robe like the local men. I also feel it creates a certain fraternit as the French put it. You can also get down to business quickly.

(I am tall, but I have nice legs. LOL.)[/QUOTE]Didn't don the robe at 4 x4 which we didn't care for so that was good. Just hightailed out of there. At Monte Carlo wore the robe. Several of the girls will get frisky with your thighs. Carol in particular is very hands on and would casually brush my shaft or ball sack. I have absolutely no doubt the ladies across the narrow bar could see me at full attention. Did I give a fuck? Damn I was all out. Not a single fuck to give. 😜.

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2811319]Main Takeaways:

-Casablanca was the best club for us, as we got the most girls from there. Dolce Vita is hit or miss, and same with Marakesh. Casablanca had over 25 girls every single night if you go around 11:00 pm- midnight.

-Mabs is crap. Would never get a girl from there, mainly look like drugged up, unfriendly, working girls, no thanks. and theres always only like 5-7 girls there , so its never gonna happen.
[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report and suggestions. I've never been to Casablanca and will now go on my next trip next week! Agree about Mabs. Go to 4 x4 next time!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2810779]I always shake my head in disbelief when I see guys in street clothes in a terma...., kkkk.[/QUOTE]I think they should sell season ticket. I would buy one and go there to use the facility at all hours. LOL.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2811608]At Monte Carlo wore the robe.[/QUOTE]I was in Rio one time and I believe it was at Monte Carlo where I saw a couple of guys wearing monogrammed robes LOL! Well they were big guys so I guess it was a good idea to bring their own personal robes that were a good fit for them. Worst robes in town were at Centaurus man all tattered and shit. Invest in the business why don't you? I mean you're charging enough!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2811463]Great that you had a blast and agree with you for Brazil over Colombia but do you really find the girls cheaper in Brazil?[/QUOTE]Def cheaper in RIO for me. I'm mostly getting girls over 90% of the time from the working girl night clubs (not strip clubs, not termas, not brothels, etc) In Rio I got girls this trip between Casablanca, Dolce Vita, and Marrakesh night clubs. In Cartagena I get them from La Dolce vita, Space, Delrium. So I would say that's a pretty perfect level playing field for price comparison. Between the 100's+ girls me and my boys must have gotten from Cartagena, we have always paid between 600-900 local currency for 5-6 hours (between midnight and 5 am- this is the fixed routine with my boys) We did the exact same routine in Rio and also paid between 600-900 local currency for the 30+ girls we got. But, Brazil money converts at 5/1 and Colombian pesos coverts at 4/1 (and Colombia used to be only 3/1 pre covid, and 2/1 when I first went in 2014).

So I definitely found Brazil cheaper, statistically I would say 25% cheaper based on the average numbers. This is strictly speaking for Cartagena and Medellin vs Rio, and working girl night clubs for take out. Not smaller towns, streetwalkers, websites/social media, strip clubs etc.

P.S.- Cartagena has been ruined by tourists (prolly myself included) over the past 5 years dramatically. Girls so stuck up (with shitty service) now they even quote you in USD dollars, in increments of 100's LOL. FK that. It doesn't look like Brazil has gotten there, not yet at least.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2811377]I have 2 words for you: HOLY SHIT! Looks like you really had a blast.

The only thing that's wrong about your trip is 5 days. I recently had to cut my stay short due to an emergency at home, and it really sucked. You need at least 10 days to enjoy Rio and justify that long flight. Although I do understand you guys were there on a mission. Well, at least your buddy will remember his bachelor party, LOL.

AA does fly to GIG in season. Based on the past history, I believe from November to March.

And Delta is about to start in December. Still 10 long hours, though.[/QUOTE]Nice, thanks for the flight info!! Can't wait until I'm back although it might be a couple years.

Flights.

USA to Rio (GIG) direct is down to Houston & Miami. On the other hand, direct flights to Sao Paulo (GRU) can be had from NYC, Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, DC, Frankfurt, Madrid, London and maybe a few others. LAX offers via Panama or other connections. The bus or a short flight to SDU (Rio) via GRU. Or elsewhere (Brazil has wonderful cities outside of Rio with plenty of natural and feminine beauty).

Start by adjusting your sleep cycle to the destination the day before you leave.

My advice is to invest in some 3M ear plugs, noise cancelling headphones, a media player with a range of good series (Breaking Bad, Borgias, Das Boot etc) and others. Bring ample batteries and / or select an airline with power under seat or USB power. Take some books to read. I like listening to novels or even interactive language software if you have a boom mike and can practice. Girls appreciate your asking politely without ambiguity for them to provide any number of explicit sexual favors. Your do your oral practice, they do theirs.

Get yourself:

Lambs wool seat cover with some sticky Velcro pads to affix it (applies to business class).

Quality cashmere travel blanket.

Head / shoulder cushion.

High quality snack with fat, like macadamia nuts, apples. At altitude your salt and sweetness are about 25% impaired, so skip the airline chow that is ramped up with salt and sugar.

High quality eye mask (with special attention to nose) with holes so you can blink (I have mine custom made with fitted nose foam and raked cashmere fabric).

Prescription* for some sleeping pills, temazepam, triazolam, or maybe some THC / CBD jellies.

Nasal beathing tube / cannula and humidity mist supply (see bit about under seat power) similar to the Fremen on Arrakis in Frank Herbert's Dune. This enables you to avoid drinking too much and getting up to pee and you feel better.

Get a string and do ACCURATE measurements of length and girth of your dick and get some properly sized, thin condoms in bulk by mail order. This is the most important part and not doing so can ruin your fun. If you do risky (unprotected sex), get yourself some PREP. It will not save you from other nasties. And get checked every 3-6 months. Better for everyone.

Set a time and do stretches, bring a band, many you can do in your seat, like butt clenching and kegel / pubococcygeal exercise (men NEED to do this as well, along with aerobics and good vascular care makes for strong erections need for tonsil massages of beautiful young women and / or banging them).

See: [URL]https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2050052115000025[/URL].

Seriously: smoking, lack of exercise, stress and alcohol with give you limp dick and early dementia and death. You owe to yourself to have a nice hard cock and full of lust for pussy and life itself. The thrill of chasing and landing 18-24 year olds, legs in the air and you balls deep is a good thing and that should be pursued into your 90's. The fat and ugly Karens will be at home (or trailer park) with their cats and cask wine watching re-runs of sex in the city or other bullshit.

Don't waste money on business class for a rock hard bed thousands have slept in. It's just as noisy (80-85 dB) as economy, the air is just as dry and your palate is crap. If you do the math it's like $US 100 per hour, a very expensive, noisy, bad humidity short time hotel. Save your money for limo pick up^^ and drop off or lesbian double you can join in.

Get TSA Global entry and / or a APEC pass (you can get for free with TSA Global) - bypasses the lines and often with diplomatic or air crew fast track. I know one mongers with a consular passports for some bogus honorary consulate thing. Free upgrades, no lines and the cops run when he produces it. Advanced users only.

All of this is an investment of about $1,500, but well worth it. At the suggestion on this board, I am going to get 2 custom robes (one in the wash whilst other in use) with zipper pockets for phones, pills or cash for easy groping access in the termas or FKKs.

* WARNING WILL ROBINSON: do not mix with alcohol, do not overdose, and if you have any cardio or beathing issues you should not touch it.

^^ Not worth in traffic snarled cities, take the train and have a nice massage and / or BJ waiting at the hotel.

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2812645]Def cheaper in RIO for me. I'm mostly getting girls over 90% of the time from the working girl night clubs (not strip clubs, not termas, not brothels, etc) In Rio I got girls this trip between Casablanca, Dolce Vita, and Marrakesh night clubs. In Cartagena I get them from La Dolce vita, Space, Delrium....

So I definitely found Brazil cheaper, statistically I would say 25% cheaper based on the average numbers. This is strictly speaking for Cartagena and Medellin vs Rio, and working girl night clubs for take out. Not smaller towns, streetwalkers, websites/social media, strip clubs etc.

P.S.- Cartagena has been ruined by tourists (prolly myself included) over the past 5 years dramatically. Girls so stuck up (with shitty service) now they even quote you in USD dollars, in increments of 100's LOL. FK that. It doesn't look like Brazil has gotten there, not yet at least.[/QUOTE]While the prices you paid for all night are pretty good in both countries, I'd say that in my experience Colombia is around 25% cheaper. I haven't been to Cartagena, but have been to Medellin / Cali / Bogota probably 30 times over 12 years and Rio 2 times (small sample size). I also primarily do 2 hours as opposed to all night. I like my sleep LOL.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2812672]Flights.

USA to Rio (GIG) direct is down to Houston & Miami. On the other hand, direct flights to Sao Paulo (GRU) can be had from NYC, Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, DC, Frankfurt, Madrid, London and maybe a few others. LAX offers via Panama or other connections. The bus or a short flight to SDU (Rio) via GRU. Or elsewhere (Brazil has wonderful cities outside of Rio with plenty of natural and feminine beauty).[/QUOTE]There are more, but only in winter. Delta and LATAM from Atlanta. Same with American, also from JFK. And like I've mentioned in another post, Delta is starting service from JFK this December.

Here is a little tip. Morning flights from GRU to SDU were always ridiculously priced (I remember $300+ for a 40 minute flight) so fly to GIG instead, it should be cheaper. Riding a bus to Rio -- don't even think about it. Realistically, it's at least an 8-hour journey, and that's after 10 hours on a plane. Thanks but no thanks.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2812672]Get yourself:

Lambs wool seat cover with some sticky Velcro pads to affix it (applies to business class).[/QUOTE]What's that and why to business? KKKK.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2812672]Get a string and do ACCURATE measurements of length and girth of your dick and get some properly sized, thin condoms in bulk by mail order. This is the most important part and not doing so can ruin your fun. If you do risky (unprotected sex), get yourself some PREP. It will not save you from other nasties. And get checked every 3-6 months. Better for everyone.[/QUOTE]Well, I've done some reading about PREP. Not harmless. And like you said, it does nothing against other nasties. Quite honestly, guys who practice BBFS are kidding themselves unless you intend to wife up and test your woman.

As for condoms:

- Okamoto Zero One.

- Sagami Original 0. 01.

- Aoni.

I've only tried Okamoto and it totally justifies the hype and the price. It's muito, muito caro, should be at least $5 a piece, or it's a fake. Sagami is a bit cheaper and available in the States, while Aoni is not, I think. If Zero One is too rich for your onslaught, there are 002,003 and 004. I tried 003 and they're pretty good too and much cheaper.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2812672]Don't waste money on business class for a rock hard bed thousands have slept in. It's just as noisy (80-85 dB) as economy, the air is just as dry and your palate is crap. If you do the math it's like $US 100 per hour, a very expensive, noisy, bad humidity short time hotel. Save your money for limo pick up^^ and drop off or lesbian double you can join in.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well, I wish it was $100 an hour, but you'll be hard-pressed to find a business class fare to Brazil for $1 K each way. It's not happening, at least in this revenge travel reality.

Of course it's noisy, but lie-flat business seat vs economy is like day and night and lets you hit the ground running. Although I do agree. If you can't swing it with miles or some help from your employer, don't waste your money.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2812672]Get TSA Global entry and / or a APEC pass (you can get for free with TSA Global) - bypasses the lines and often with diplomatic or air crew fast track. I know one mongers with a consular passports for some bogus honorary consulate thing. Free upgrades, no lines and the cops run when he produces it. Advanced users only.[/QUOTE]I've had GE since it was introduced, and it doesn't include an APEC pass. I understand you must apply separately and pay the fee. Besides, this is an Asia thing, what does it have to do with Brazil?

And what upgrades are you talking about, can you elaborate?

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2812672]All of this is an investment of about $1,500, but well worth it. At the suggestion on this board, I am going to get 2 custom robes (one in the wash whilst other in use) with zipper pockets for phones, pills or cash for easy groping access in the termas or FKKs.[/QUOTE]Man, you surely take the air transportation and termas dead-seriously but why would you need cash in the termas?

For just a phone and couple of pills, this little thingy make your custom-made robes totally unnecessary.

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GHKMR82?th=1[/URL]

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2812672]

Get a string and do ACCURATE measurements of length and girth of your dick and get some properly sized, thin condoms in bulk by mail order. This is the most important part and not doing so can ruin your fun.
[/QUOTE]This is underrated advice and something I will 100% be doing before my next trip. Ill-fitting condoms really ruins the experience. Also I would recommend not letting the girls put the condom on you. From my experience they never know how to put it on correctly. They all tend to put it on the same way. By stretching it out over the dick and letting it snap down at the base. This is totally the wrong way. You're supposed to just place it on the tip of your dick then roll the base of the condom down.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2812976]Riding a bus to Rio -- don't even think about it. Realistically, it's at least an 8-hour journey, and that's after 10 hours on a plane.[/QUOTE]Yes, do think about it. A busride from Sao Paulo to Rio is about 6 hours, included a stop for eating. Very comfortable buses and a scenic ride.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2813079]Yes, do think about it. A busride from Sao Paulo to Rio is about 6 hours, included a stop for eating. Very comfortable buses and a scenic ride.[/QUOTE]I have heard similar.

But what's going on with the price of Brazilian national airline tickets? I was recently searching the airline sites for roundtrip CGH-SDU-CGH flights, and I followed up on what turned out to be a 600-price offer from one of the airlines which included 1st row seats and 1 checked in bag. The price seemed very good & I almost bought the ticket until I realized at the last moment that the quoted price was in dollars not reais. The website switched from reais to dollars when I changed the language from Portuguese to English. KKK.

So, hell yeah, I am going to rent a car and drive to RJ. The bus would work almost as well for me, but I think it will be fun to have a car in RJ. I have heard some bus lines are very good.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2812672]Flights.


Don't waste money on business class for a rock hard bed thousands have slept in. It's just as noisy (80-85 dB) as economy, the air is just as dry and your palate is crap. If you do the math it's like $US 100 per hour, a very expensive, noisy, bad humidity short time hotel. Save your money for limo pick up^^ and drop off or lesbian double you can join in.[/QUOTE]Of everything you posted, this is the only thing I would push back on. I have suffered in economy for a long time being 6'2" and built to be an outside linebacker. Since shifting my budget to be in business class or better, I can truly start my vacation off in a more positive way compared to when I have been stuck next to a passive aggressive seat mate jockeying for arm and leg space. Coupled with someone next to me who fidgets the entire trip, moving away from sitting on top of each other has made a tremendous difference in how I personally want to travel.

But, to each his own.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2813079]...Very comfortable buses ...[/QUOTE]I just ride the bus at night and get a sleeper seat. It's not bad.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2813087]I have heard similar.

But what's going on with the price of Brazilian national airline tickets? I was recently searching the airline sites for roundtrip CGH-SDU-CGH flights, and I followed up on what turned out to be a 600-price offer from one of the airlines which included 1st row seats and 1 checked in bag. The price seemed very good & I almost bought the ticket until I realized at the last moment that the quoted price was in dollars not reais. The website switched from reais to dollars when I changed the language from Portuguese to English. KKK.

So, hell yeah, I am going to rent a car and drive to RJ. The bus would work almost as well for me, but I think it will be fun to have a car in RJ. I have heard some bus lines are very good.[/QUOTE]I was looking to buy a flight from SP to Rio the other day.

The cheapest price was $400, one way.

I was considering the bus option as well.

Then yesterday I checked the flight prices again.

GOL and TAM were still at $400, however, to my delight, most Azul flights dropped to $50 one way!

I snagged one!

Crazy!

[QUOTE=KcDark;2813114]Of everything you posted, this is the only thing I would push back on. I have suffered in economy for a long time being 6'2" and built to be an outside linebacker. Since shifting my budget to be in business class or better, I can truly start my vacation off in a more positive way compared to when I have been stuck next to a passive aggressive seat mate jockeying for arm and leg space. Coupled with someone next to me who fidgets the entire trip, moving away from sitting on top of each other has made a tremendous difference in how I personally want to travel.

But, to each his own.[/QUOTE]If I can fly in any class other than "cattle class economy" I'm going for it! Arrive well-rested and well-fed to start my journey off right! Yes sir! After flying in Business Class the first time there was no way in hell I could happily got back to Economy. It's like when I bought my first car with comfortable leather seats in it. No going back! When I fly for leisure these days now it's [B]always[/B] premium class and above whenever possible. It's well worth it to me, including on the ground where your trip experience really begins. Being able to skip the long lines at the counter. And I like having lounge access to get away from the hustle and bustle and the "great unwashed" of a busy airport LOL! Being able to board earlier and be ensured of adequate overhead bin space. More room and a more comfortable seat. Better food and drink (and more of both too). And arriving without a sore neck! All of these things make avoiding Economy well worth it to me. There was a time when I couldn't afford it. But now I can, and I'm willing to spend the money (or miles) for all of the aforementioned reasons. Where I will try to save is on my hotel accommodations. I typically will usually go for 3-star hotels but sometimes 4-stars. I mean I spend so much time away from the hotel anyway. It just needs to be clean and comfortable enough with enough space to store my things, public transit and taxi accessible, and with a good internet connection. And I'm set! Haven't we all had this discussion in-depth before?

[QUOTE=Balboa;2813140]
GOL and TAM were still at $400, however, to my delight, most Azul flights dropped to $50 one way![/QUOTE]GOL is a shitty airline, I wouldn't go with it if they pay me. LATAM from now on.

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2812645]So I definitely found Brazil cheaper, statistically I would say 25% cheaper based on the average numbers. This is strictly speaking for Cartagena and Medellin vs Rio, and working girl night clubs for take out. Not smaller towns, streetwalkers, websites/social media, strip clubs etc. [/QUOTE]That's interesting because girls at Dolce and Casablanca quoted me $200 USD per hour. I laughed hard and ignored them. Girls at Termas quoted $300 usd for 3 HR plus uber and then dropped to 1200 r for 3 HR. Funniest shit they kept try quoting me in usd. I guess too many gringos paying that kind of money there. No thanks.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2813146]That's interesting because girls at Dolce and Casablanca quoted me $200 USD per hour. I laughed hard and ignored them. Girls at Termas quoted $300 usd for 3 HR plus uber and then dropped to 1200 r for 3 HR. Funniest shit they kept try quoting me in usd. I guess too many gringos paying that kind of money there. No thanks.[/QUOTE]The 300 dollars for 3 hours is basically the price scale they reference when you pay for 3 hours at the terma. They figure if you can pay 100 bucks an hour to fuck them in the terma, then you should pay the same amount to fuck them in your hotel / apartment. As far as the 200 US for one hour, they are swinging for the fences. Once in a blue moon, a girl get a sucker. Sorry, I mean a gringo, who will pay astronomical prices (With the mind set of "this would cost me so much more back home! She will sprint back to her girlfriends and brag about how much money she made and then all of her friends will try the same price quote just to see if anyone is stupid enough to pay it.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2813141]If I can fly in any class other than "cattle class economy" I'm going for it! Arrive well-rested and well-fed to start my journey off right! Yes sir! After flying in Business Class the first time there was no way in hell I could happily got back to Economy. It's like when I bought my first car with comfortable leather seats in it. No going back! When I fly for leisure these days now it's [B]always[/B] premium class and above whenever possible. It's well worth it to me, including on the ground where your trip experience really begins. Being able to skip the long lines at the counter. And I like having lounge access to get away from the hustle and bustle and the "great unwashed" of a busy airport LOL! Being able to board earlier and be ensured of adequate overhead bin space. More room and a more comfortable seat. Better food and drink (and more of both too). And arriving without a sore neck! All of these things make avoiding Economy well worth it to me. There was a time when I couldn't afford it. But now I can, and I'm willing to spend the money (or miles) for all of the aforementioned reasons. Where I will try to save is on my hotel accommodations. I typically will usually go for 3-star hotels but sometimes 4-stars. I mean I spend so much time away from the hotel anyway. It just needs to be clean and comfortable enough with enough space to store my things, public transit and taxi accessible, and with a good internet connection. And I'm set! Haven't we all had this discussion in-depth before?[/QUOTE]Lot of people pointing out the business class travel part. I agree business class is the way to go no question- I fly to Europe all the time for work (75% of the time in business) and man is it amazing. HOWEVER (the other 25% of the time), can we not pretend a lot of the times it's just insanely ridiculous and that the price is laughable? No way my company would allow it LOL- I've seen $8,000-10,000 flights to Europe in business, especially in the summer.

Back to Brazil- My ticket from NyC to Houston to Rio was $1300 on United (booked about 2-3 months in advance). When. I checked business it was $9,500 round trip LOL. When I checked two days before my flight, it was $8000 to upgrade seats, ONE WAY LOL. Sometimes airline pricing has no logic. Even the points upgrade was ridiculous. I find the best option is to ask at the gate, and sometimes you'll get lucky and they'll do it for $1000 one way (done this plenty of times to europe and India- Pre-Covid, and saved couple K each time). Business class pricing can be a nasty game.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2813174]The 300 dollars for 3 hours is basically the price scale they reference when you pay for 3 hours at the terma. They figure if you can pay 100 bucks an hour to fuck them in the terma, then you should pay the same amount to fuck them in your hotel / apartment. [b]As far as the 200 US for one hour, they are swinging for the fences. [u]Once in a blue moon, a girl get a sucker. Sorry, I mean a gringo, who will pay astronomical prices[/u] (With the mind set of "this would cost me so much more back home! She will sprint back to her girlfriends and brag about how much money she made and then all of her friends will try the same price quote just to see if anyone is stupid enough to pay it.[/b][/QUOTE]This is so true. I just quote what I am going to pay. I kind of negotiate (not really), I just indulge them to provide a price quote. If it fits in my budget ok. If its above, then I counter (not really, it's my best and only offer) if accepted cool if not walk.

Know what $100USD (or your country currency) is in $BRL, baseline it and go from there.

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2813227]Lot of people pointing out the business class travel part. I agree business class is the way to go no question-

[b]Back to Brazil- My ticket from NyC to Houston to Rio was $1300 on United (booked about 2-3 months in advance). When. I checked business it was $9,500 round trip LOL. When I checked two days before my flight, it was $8000 to upgrade seats, ONE WAY LOL. Sometimes airline pricing has no logic. Even the points upgrade was ridiculous.[/b]Business class pricing can be a nasty game.[/QUOTE]

I've flown 1st class & Business class and Economy (cattle) class so I know the difference. My overall issue is with the price disparity between economy class and business class, it's hard for me to justify the cost. The delta between airfares can fund my accommodations + on the ground activities!! I just can't seem to justify the cost. :(

I did the bus ride from SP to RJ last year and it was great.

I left around 6 am and got to RJ around 1 pm. There was a stop half way at a buffet place where you pay by the weight.

Only thing that sucked was that I had to go to the bus station to buy the actual ticket. If you know a girl who can help you buy it for you, use her CPF and credit card, and pay her the cash value then that would be best.

There are only so many leito camo seats available so best to get one before they sell out but usually they don't.

I went with a friend so we sat next to each other and we both slept like a baby.

You're going to want to sleep anyways so this is sort fo the best option for that to kill time before you can check in to your hotel room or airbnb.

I used aguia branca bus line and the photos are the seats we had.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2813079]Yes, do think about it. A busride from Sao Paulo to Rio is about 6 hours, included a stop for eating. Very comfortable buses and a scenic ride.[/QUOTE]We're talking specifically about connecting to Rio after an international flight. A bus ride from GRU is 7-10 hours, at least in the morning when flights from the USA Tend to land.

After a 10-hour flight, I don't feel like spending another 7-10 hours on the bus, but that's just me.

The point I was trying to make is that if you want to connect to Rio from GRU rather than change airports, look for flying to GIG instead of SDU because they tend to be much less expensive. Is it always the case? No, but more often than not, it is. Airlines know you'd rather land in the city, hence the markup.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2813141]If I can fly in any class other than "cattle class economy" I'm going for it! Arrive well-rested and well-fed to start my journey off right! Yes sir! After flying in Business Class the first time there was no way in hell I could happily got back to Economy. It's like when I bought my first car with comfortable leather seats in it. No going back! When I fly for leisure these days now it's [B]always[/B] premium class and above whenever possible. It's well worth it to me, including on the ground where your trip experience really begins. Being able to skip the long lines at the counter. And I like having lounge access to get away from the hustle and bustle and the "great unwashed" of a busy airport LOL! Being able to board earlier and be ensured of adequate overhead bin space. More room and a more comfortable seat. Better food and drink (and more of both too). And arriving without a sore neck! All of these things make avoiding Economy well worth it to me. There was a time when I couldn't afford it. But now I can, and I'm willing to spend the money (or miles) for all of the aforementioned reasons. Where I will try to save is on my hotel accommodations. I typically will usually go for 3-star hotels but sometimes 4-stars. I mean I spend so much time away from the hotel anyway. It just needs to be clean and comfortable enough with enough space to store my things, public transit and taxi accessible, and with a good internet connection. And I'm set! Haven't we all had this discussion in-depth before?[/QUOTE]I'm with you on almost everything except hotels, but have you checked business class fares to Rio lately? It's between $6 K-10 K rt. I mean, that's a lot of sessions, not even mentioning hotel rooms.

If I can't get a lie-flat on miles or some ridiculous discount, I'll suffer in Economy for 10 hours rather than burn my budget.

Premium Economy is another option, but truth be told, it's much closer to economy than to business.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2813244]Only thing that sucked was that I had to go to the bus station to buy the actual ticket. If you know a girl who can help you buy it for you, use her CPF and credit card, and pay her the cash value then that would be best.[/QUOTE]I usually buy bustickets online using my CPF. If you buy the ticket on the bus company's website there will be no extra fee. However if you buy the ticket on other sites, like Clickbus and Queropassagem, they will add a fee. If you want to buy the ticket in advance it's often cheaper (depending on which city you are located) to take an Uber back and forth to the Rodoviaria than paying the Clickbus fee.

There are also agencies that sell bustickets. In Copacabana there are Guanatur on Rua Dias the Rocha 16 and Sami Tour on Av Nossa Sra de Copacabana 1022. They do charge a fee but you don't have to go to the Rodoviaria to buy your ticket and no CPF is needed.

Leito is the most comfortable, but I prefer Executivo. Executivo is much cheaper and the comfort is really good.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2813244]I did the bus ride from SP to RJ last year and it was great.

I left around 6 am and got to RJ around 1 pm. There was a stop half way at a buffet place where you pay by the weight.

Only thing that sucked was that I had to go to the bus station to buy the actual ticket. If you know a girl who can help you buy it for you, use her CPF and credit card, and pay her the cash value then that would be best.

There are only so many leito camo seats available so best to get one before they sell out but usually they don't.

I went with a friend so we sat next to each other and we both slept like a baby.

You're going to want to sleep anyways so this is sort fo the best option for that to kill time before you can check in to your hotel room or airbnb.

I used aguia branca bus line and the photos are the seats we had.[/QUOTE]I've not taken the bus before. That looks quite comfortable. But for me it's the time it takes that's the issue. That said, a roundtrip airfare between Sampa and Rio of $800 would likely force many to look for another option, including myself.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2813244]I did the bus ride from SP to RJ last year and it was great.

I left around 6 am and got to RJ around 1 pm. There was a stop half way at a buffet place where you pay by the weight.

Only thing that sucked was that I had to go to the bus station to buy the actual ticket. If you know a girl who can help you buy it for you, use her CPF and credit card, and pay her the cash value then that would be best.

There are only so many leito camo seats available so best to get one before they sell out but usually they don't.

I went with a friend so we sat next to each other and we both slept like a baby.

You're going to want to sleep anyways so this is sort fo the best option for that to kill time before you can check in to your hotel room or airbnb.

I used aguia branca bus line and the photos are the seats we had.[/QUOTE]That whole process can be a nightmare. I've done it twice goin from Riio to S. P. And the process was different both times. Luckily I booked thru FlixBus so the app was already on my phone. The bus station has numerous bus companies so the first time I had problems finding a FlixBus counter. Well there wasn't a FlixBus counter, but I was not allowed to exit the door without a pass from the counter even though I had the ticket for the ride. Well with 10 minutes to go I found what doubled as the FluxBus agent and finally I was allowed to go thru the turnstile. The second trip I just simply walked out to the bus without a problem. It was during all the chaos after the election so luckily all the roadblocks were removed 5 days before I made my journey to S. P.

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2813227]Lot of people pointing out the business class travel part. I agree business class is the way to go no question- I fly to Europe all the time for work (75% of the time in business) and man is it amazing. HOWEVER (the other 25% of the time), can we not pretend a lot of the times it's just insanely ridiculous and that the price is laughable? No way my company would allow it LOL- I've seen $8,000-10,000 flights to Europe in business, especially in the summer.

Back to Brazil- My ticket from NyC to Houston to Rio was $1300 on United (booked about 2-3 months in advance). When. I checked business it was $9,500 round trip LOL. When I checked two days before my flight, it was $8000 to upgrade seats, ONE WAY LOL. Sometimes airline pricing has no logic. Even the points upgrade was ridiculous. I find the best option is to ask at the gate, and sometimes you'll get lucky and they'll do it for $1000 one way (done this plenty of times to europe and India- Pre-Covid, and saved couple K each time). Business class pricing can be a nasty game.[/QUOTE]I agree, the prices are laughable to some of the destinations in business class. What is even weirder is that if you shift your trip by a day forward or back, the prices are nearly 50% cheaper which makes little to no sense. When I fly in two weeks to SP, I will ask the gate agent about the price to upgrade my seats. I've always heard that tickets in general are cheaper at the airport compared to online or with an agent over the phone.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2813240]



I've flown 1st class & Business class and Economy (cattle) class so I know the difference. My overall issue is with the price disparity between economy class and business class, it's hard for me to justify the cost. The delta between airfares can fund my accommodations + on the ground activities!! I just can't seem to justify the cost. :([/QUOTE]This also makes sense and I will never judge anyone for how they want to spend their money when traveling. I know A LOT of people who don't mind traveling economy and that is cool with me. But I will share that most of the people who can tolerate economy for long flights have smaller frames, can sleep the entire flight, or zen out and not be concerned about their accommodations.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2813251]Premium Economy is another option, but truth be told, it's much closer to economy than to business.[/QUOTE]It really depends on the airline. On some carriers paying for premium economy is not worth it, while on others it absolutely is, like with EVA Air:

[URL]https://www.cntraveler.com/story/eva-air-premium-economy-review[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2813350]It really depends on the airline. On some carriers paying for premium economy is not worth it, while on others it absolutely is, like with EVA Air:

[URL]https://www.cntraveler.com/story/eva-air-premium-economy-review[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link.

My PE experience is very limited (only American and Cathay Pacific). But EVA is an exceptional airline on its own. I rode them in business, and it's a cut above Cathay Pacific business, which itself is quite good. I also read in your article that EVA's recline in PE is 120 degrees. That's insane! I don't know exactly what American recline is, but I can bet that it's just a few degrees over Economy. So, yes, it seems like EVA PE is in a class of its own.

That said, even a lousy PE product (like AA) is way better than economy. The leg rests help a lot. It's ridiculous how much they actually help to alleviate the pressure on your body. So it can be a viable alternative when not priced out of wack.

[QUOTE=KcDark;2813114]Of everything you posted, this is the only thing I would push back on. I have suffered in economy for a long time being 6'2" and built to be an outside linebacker.....[/QUOTE]What about if you sit next to a whale, its sheet torture. I bear it by fantasizing about the hottie I will next to in a few hours. Returning home is hell.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2813425]What about if you sit next to a whale, its sheet torture. I bear it by fantasizing about the hottie I will next to in a few hours. Returning home is hell.[/QUOTE]The closest I have come to sitting next to a whale was being assigned the middle seat on my way to Las Vegas when I was in my 20's smh.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2813269]I usually buy bustickets online using my CPF. If you buy the ticket on the bus company's website there will be no extra fee. However if you buy the ticket on other sites, like Clickbus and Queropassagem, they will add a fee. If you want to buy the ticket in advance it's often cheaper (depending on which city you are located) to take an Uber back and forth to the Rodoviaria than paying the Clickbus fee.

There are also agencies that sell bustickets. In Copacabana there are Guanatur on Rua Dias the Rocha 16 and Sami Tour on Av Nossa Sra de Copacabana 1022. They do charge a fee but you don't have to go to the Rodoviaria to buy your ticket and no CPF is needed.

Leito is the most comfortable, but I prefer Executivo. Executivo is much cheaper and the comfort is really good.[/QUOTE]Some online bus sites won't accept foreign credit / debit cards as well.

Only brazilian cards.

So always good to double check.

If all else fails definitely just go to the bus station and buy the tickets.

The difference between leito and executivo is like 50 BRL or something like that so really worth the extra 10 USD for the best comfort.

I had Nina DePonca over yesterday for two fucks, and a deep tissue massage. Paid her 500 r which was high but she has been helping me with other things.

Nothing like a half hour blow job followed by 3 hole BBFS ass creampie to our favorite porn video, Fashionistas by Stagliano.

Then, motivated, I hopped city buses to centro, and hit:

1. 4 x4, where I was going to go in, but the ISGer in town was not on his zap so I.

2. went over to club 21, where there was only a girl I could see when I opened the door.

3. 116, where there was not a quorum of do-able girls.

4. 202, which is around the corner, and is bad ass, was packed, had a party going on, and has actual porn videos filmed there now.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video75750971/primeira_gravacao_na_boate_clube_202_no_centro_do_rio_rua_teofilo_otoni[/URL]

(credit to pv118 for the link to the videos at 202).

I did a 24 year old hottie for 100 for the half, then took a bus back to barra.

The second season of Dom is back on Prime. Haven't watched yet and honestly don't know if I want to because the real story of Dom ended at the end of the first season. Which means whatever comes next has got to be a pure fantasy.

[URL]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13354188/[/URL]

On the other hand:

- The first season was solid: tight script and great acting.

- Gratuitous sex and violence.

- Three things you can watch forever: fire, water and Rio.

If anyone is watching what do you think?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2813687]The second season of Dom is back on Prime. Haven't watched yet and honestly don't know if I want to because the real story of Dom ended at the end of the first season. Which means whatever comes next has got to be a pure fantasy.

[URL]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13354188/[/URL]

On the other hand:

- The first season was solid: tight script and great acting.

- Gratuitous sex and violence.

- Three things you can watch forever: fire, water and Rio.

If anyone is watching what do you think?[/QUOTE]I'm watching. I gave a heads-up back in March LOL: [POST]2799500[/POST]. I'm slowly going through the episodes. I like it, especially with it being based in Brazil, my favorite country other than the United States! One thing is that I think the show spends as much or more time analyzing Dom's father as it does on Pedro Dom himself. I look forward to finishing out Season 2, which surely will be the last one (I think). I really like looking at Isabella Santoni who plays "Viviane". That's what I like to fuck when I go to Brazil LMAO! Swear to God I pulled a garota out of the old Bomboa who looked like her, but with bigger tits. Yum, yum, yummy LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2813619]I had Nina DePonca over yesterday for two fucks, and a deep tissue massage. Paid her 500 r which was high but she has been helping me with other things.

Nothing like a half hour blow job followed by 3 hole BBFS ass creampie to our favorite porn video, Fashionistas by Stagliano.

Then, motivated, I hopped city buses to centro, and hit:

1. 4 x4, where I was going to go in, but the ISGer in town was not on his zap so I.

2. went over to club 21, where there was only a girl I could see when I opened the door.

3. 116, where there was not a quorum of do-able girls.

4. 202, which is around the corner, and is bad ass, was packed, had a party going on, and has actual porn videos filmed there now.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video75750971/primeira_gravacao_na_boate_clube_202_no_centro_do_rio_rua_teofilo_otoni[/URL]

(credit to pv118 for the link to the videos at 202).

I did a 24 year old hottie for 100 for the half, then took a bus back to barra.[/QUOTE]I will be in Copacabana in two weeks for ten days definitely will check out more of the centro clubs this time. Thanks for the report.

Thanks everyone for the corrections. NYC to GIG is 4,826 miles, which at 600 MPH is 8. 10 hours, and Europe to Rio 5,300, so figure 9 hours, but because aircraft have to climb / slow down, this adds time. However you look at it, a typic trip is 20 hours return plus ground transport and officialdom bullshit and / or lost / delayed bags (use a tracking tile. You have about a 5% chance of delay or problem depending on airline). Premium economy or business class is a very costly delta, and though I can afford it, it grates on me to pay so much knowing the savings could fatten my portfolio or be used to have a nicer hotel or lesbian duo four hand massage and other fun I can join in when I land. Picturing this scene in my mind on the plane puts a spring in my step and swelling of loins. So do the boutique restaurants in Rio and Sao Paulo. Especially when I have a pretty girl with me for dinner knowing her delicate little feminine lips will be soon stretched out with my throbbing member in her mouth. All of this is an exercise in deferred gratification and later fun that I make the sacrifice for.

Practicing language (voice recognition and feedback, podcasts, spoken novels or sudoko makes the time go quite quickly.

I also can donate the savings to charity and get a deduction. Maybe we should start a tax deductible non-profit for the betterment of young women in BR, with tonsil massage and a new form of Tai Chi I've been developing. Vagabundo has a similar martial arts charity, it involves the girls with their legs over his shoulders and practicing their kegel muscles with him impaling them, often with their friends at the same time.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2813619]I had Nina DePonca over yesterday for two fucks, and a deep tissue massage. Paid her 500 r which was high but she has been helping me with other things.

Nothing like a half hour blow job followed by 3 hole BBFS ass creampie to our favorite porn video, Fashionistas by Stagliano.

Then, motivated, I hopped city buses to centro, and hit:

1. 4 x4, where I was going to go in, but the ISGer in town was not on his zap so I.

2. went over to club 21, where there was only a girl I could see when I opened the door.

3. 116, where there was not a quorum of do-able girls.

4. 202, which is around the corner, and is bad ass, was packed, had a party going on, and has actual porn videos filmed there now.[/QUOTE]Hold on. Nina DePonca the 80's porn star? She lives in Rio?

[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2812645]Def cheaper in RIO for me. I'm mostly getting girls over 90% of the time from the working girl night clubs (not strip clubs, not termas, not brothels, etc) In Rio I got girls this trip between Casablanca, Dolce Vita, and Marrakesh night clubs. In Cartagena I get them from La Dolce vita, Space, Delrium. So I would say that's a pretty perfect level playing field for price comparison. Between the 100's+ girls me and my boys must have gotten from Cartagena, we have always paid between 600-900 local currency for 5-6 hours (between midnight and 5 am- this is the fixed routine with my boys) We did the exact same routine in Rio and also paid between 600-900 local currency for the 30+ girls we got. But, Brazil money converts at 5/1 and Colombian pesos coverts at 4/1 (and Colombia used to be only 3/1 pre covid, and 2/1 when I first went in 2014).

So I definitely found Brazil cheaper, statistically I would say 25% cheaper based on the average numbers. This is strictly speaking for Cartagena and Medellin vs Rio, and working girl night clubs for take out. Not smaller towns, streetwalkers, websites/social media, strip clubs etc.

P.S.- Cartagena has been ruined by tourists (prolly myself included) over the past 5 years dramatically. Girls so stuck up (with shitty service) now they even quote you in USD dollars, in increments of 100's LOL. FK that. It doesn't look like Brazil has gotten there, not yet at least.[/QUOTE]Bruh if you are regularly paying between $600-900 k in Cartagena you are fucking up the game big time. I take girls out the clubs there for $300-350ST, $450-500 LT. Guys need to grow a spine and stop letting girls dictate the price. What's even worse is half the girls there are from Venezuela, so they are really getting over on you.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2813251]
I'm with you on almost everything except hotels, but have you checked business class fares to Rio lately? It's between $6 K-10 K rt. I mean, that's a lot of sessions, not even mentioning hotel rooms
.[/QUOTE]Business class fares like any fares vary, I'm looking at business class fares now for a future trip but it's long time away and from NY to gig it's $3,480. I usually only fly business class to Rio for the general service, comfort and lie flat seats. The food is better than coach but still sucks. Last year I got a first class seat to Brazil using miles at a great rate, the food was not much better and the seats were the same. During the covid years they had great deals using miles now they want too much miles, it's not worth it. It can blow the budget especially you're spending big part of your budget just for 10 hours of luxury when you can use that extra money on your 2 week trip. But I hate coach for such a long flight and I'm very spoiled having worked for the airlines many years ago and flying to Rio always first class which in those days was much different level than today. Life is short, live it up, buy the business class ticket, stretch out and enjoy yourself.

I am in rio right now. Anybody interested to visit VM?

[QUOTE=KcDark;2813867]Hold on. Nina DePonca the 80's porn star? She lives in Rio?[/QUOTE]I used to wank to her like crazy back in the day.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2813414]Thanks for the link. My PE experience is very limited (only American and Cathay Pacific). But EVA is an exceptional airline on its own.[/QUOTE]Also don't forget these (I've done Lufthansa to Europe several times and LATAM to South America is a real option for me now): [URL]https://www.cntraveler.com/story/airlines-with-premium-economy-cabins-worth-splurging-on[/URL].

[QUOTE=Turgid;2814150]I used to wank to her like crazy back in the day.[/QUOTE]I saw her perform live at the old Market Street Cinema in San Francisco years ago (you also used to go up in there and fuck the "dancers" LOL):

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_Street_Cinema[/URL]

[QUOTE=KcDark;2813867]Hold on. Nina DePonca the 80's porn star? She lives in Rio?[/QUOTE]He's not fucking Nina DePonca. That's what he calls the girl he is fucking that apparently looks like her.

Hello community! It's my first post here and I have already gotten a lot of info by reading several posts. My friend and I are going to Brazil for the first time for mongering and would gratefully appreciate getting some help from you all on the following:

Dates: June 3rd to June 11th (flying in and out of Sao Paulo).

1. How many nights should we be in Sao Paulo vs Rio (8 nights total). I am currently thinking 2 nights in SP, 5 nights in Rio, and the last night again in SP before we fly out.

2. In rio. Which hotel should we stay in? Thinking of getting our own rooms as are intentions are to have a girl over every other night in our room. We were ideally looking for a sure shot girl friendly hotel (something on or close to the beach).

- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.

[QUOTE=Shantanugavai;2814312]Hello community! It's my first post here and I have already gotten a lot of info by reading several posts. My friend and I are going to Brazil for the first time for mongering and would gratefully appreciate getting some help from you all on the following:

Dates: June 3rd to June 11th (flying in and out of Sao Paulo).

1. How many nights should we be in Sao Paulo vs Rio (8 nights total). I am currently thinking 2 nights in SP, 5 nights in Rio, and the last night again in SP before we fly out.

2. In rio. Which hotel should we stay in? Thinking of getting our own rooms as are intentions are to have a girl over every other night in our room. We were ideally looking for a sure shot girl friendly hotel (something on or close to the beach).

- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.[/QUOTE]In Rio really enjoyed Arena Leme all the way at the northeast end of Copa beach. Well priced super nice and beachfront. Pool is tiny like a hot tub. If that matters. Otherwise great with rooftop bar and amazing view. I walked my girl straight past the front desk at 10 pm and absolutely no discussion. All good.

[QUOTE=Shantanugavai;2814312]Hello community! It's my first post here and I have already gotten a lot of info by reading several posts. My friend and I are going to Brazil for the first time for mongering and would gratefully appreciate getting some help from you all on the following:

Dates: June 3rd to June 11th (flying in and out of Sao Paulo).

1. How many nights should we be in Sao Paulo vs Rio (8 nights total). I am currently thinking 2 nights in SP, 5 nights in Rio, and the last night again in SP before we fly out.

2. In rio. Which hotel should we stay in? Thinking of getting our own rooms as are intentions are to have a girl over every other night in our room. We were ideally looking for a sure shot girl friendly hotel (something on or close to the beach).

- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.[/QUOTE]1. IMHO, you're setting yourselves for a disappointment. Both are huge cities, and you don't have enough time for either of them, especially since this is your maiden voyage. If you can't stay longer, do SP OR Rio, but not both.

2. If you pick Rio, forget Sheraton. It's GF, at least was 9 years ago, but better stay in Copa to be close to everything. Leblon is not far, but it can take a while to get anywhere in Rio traffic. Read the hotels thread for GF hotels in Copa, or find a 2-bdrm GF Airbnb. Hilton and JW Marriott are both GF.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2813933]Business class fares like any fares vary, I'm looking at business class fares now for a future trip but it's long time away and from NY to gig it's $3,480. I usually only fly business class to Rio for the general service, comfort and lie flat seats. The food is better than coach but still sucks. Last year I got a first class seat to Brazil using miles at a great rate, the food was not much better and the seats were the same. During the covid years they had great deals using miles now they want too much miles, it's not worth it. It can blow the budget especially you're spending big part of your budget just for 10 hours of luxury when you can use that extra money on your 2 week trip. But I hate coach for such a long flight and I'm very spoiled having worked for the airlines many years ago and flying to Rio always first class which in those days was much different level than today. Life is short, live it up, buy the business class ticket, stretch out and enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE]I hear you, but even 3. 6 would be too rich for my blood. I'd hate breaking my brain trying to calculate how much fun I could've had for that kind of dough, kkkk.

To me, the realm of possible is when Biz fares are within 250% of coach. That much I can justify -- still grudgingly, LOL.

Miles are the best, but super-hard to redeem for Biz nowadays, unless you're very flexible.

Friday Night Lights -.

Vagabundo linked up with an ISGer in Botafogo and had a meal at Na Brasa Colombia, always excellent.

We took metro to 202. Wow, what super talent. The best ones were scooped up before I could session, but arriving 18 h is optimal.

Around the corner at 116, it was packed, and lots of good talent. 116 is loud and smoke filled. Two times I tried to take a fave up to a room. Both times there was a delay and the f'kin local music and smoke drove me to cancel, and they gave me my70 r for 20 minutes back, and I joined wingman who wanted to go.

Between those venues we also went to an little club 04 where michelle noemie bilas Obama spreads her big negra cheeks on command for rabbi vagabundo's bratwurst.

Then to club 31, which had just 4 girls, and wingman said lets move on.

Mv30 cover 25 was to his and my liking, perhaps more upscale in that there is an actual boate, and an actual pool room, and the cover keeps the customers who pay nada at 202 and 116 out.

But that was about enough, so we headed "home" whatever that means, and ubered out like space aliens leaving earth 54,000 years ago.

Roughly that's how I feel.

I regretted not fucking that old fave at 116, but the fucking pounding music and the second hand smoke. At 116 or 202, the best is to get in and fuck. But they are great clubs. So much porn quality talent.

The hotel on the darkside at rua the inhuama 95 is closed.

It's a ravenous town.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2814454]Friday Night Lights -.

Vagabundo linked up with an ISGer in Botafogo and had a meal at Na Brasa Colombia, always excellent.

We took metro to 202. Wow, what super talent. The best ones were scooped up before I could session, but arriving 18 h is optimal.

Around the corner at 116, it was packed, and lots of good talent. 116 is loud and smoke filled. Two times I tried to take a fave up to a room. Both times there was a delay and the f'kin local music and smoke drove me to cancel, and they gave me my70 r for 20 minutes back, and I joined wingman who wanted to go.

Between those venues we also went to an little club 04 where michelle noemie bilas Obama spreads her big negra cheeks on command for rabbi vagabundo's bratwurst.

Then to club 31, which had just 4 girls, and wingman said lets move on.

Mv30 cover 25 was to his and my liking, perhaps more upscale in that there is an actual boate, and an actual pool room, and the cover keeps the customers who pay nada at 202 and 116 out.

But that was about enough, so we headed "home" whatever that means, and ubered out like space aliens leaving earth 54,000 years ago.

Roughly that's how I feel.

I regretted not fucking that old fave at 116, but the fucking pounding music and the second hand smoke. At 116 or 202, the best is to get in and fuck. But they are great clubs. So much porn quality talent.

The hotel on the darkside at rua the inhuama 95 is closed.

It's a ravenous town.[/QUOTE]Nice report, where is club 202 and club 04? I will be in Rio on May 22. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Shantanugavai;2814312]Hello community! It's my first post here and I have already gotten a lot of info by reading several posts. My friend and I are going to Brazil for the first time for mongering and would gratefully appreciate getting some help from you all on the following:

Dates: June 3rd to June 11th (flying in and out of Sao Paulo).

1. How many nights should we be in Sao Paulo vs Rio (8 nights total). I am currently thinking 2 nights in SP, 5 nights in Rio, and the last night again in SP before we fly out.

2. In rio. Which hotel should we stay in? Thinking of getting our own rooms as are intentions are to have a girl over every other night in our room. We were ideally looking for a sure shot girl friendly hotel (something on or close to the beach).

- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.[/QUOTE]2 nights in SP and 5 in Rio is good. Make sure you goto Scandolla in Sao Paulo. And make sure you goto 4 x4 in Rio. Enjoy.

I spent 3 days in SP and 3 in Rio; its not much but enough to get a glimpse of the action. As a newbie, I like Rio better. It has this vacation feeling that I did not get I SP. Also, everything is concentrated close to Copa. In Sp it cost me a lot in taxi.

4 x4 is great. Lots of women and very affordable.

Tonight I will go to mosaico but I have to wait till 10 when the girls start to arrive.

I did not find anybody to come with me so I will be extra careful and not wander too much in the streets.

[QUOTE=Shantanugavai;2814312]

- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.[/QUOTE]Sheraton Leblon is GF and a very decent hotel. It is however a 10-30 minute ride away from action in Ipanema and Copa.

[QUOTE=Junior;2814689]Sheraton Leblon is GF and a very decent hotel. It is however a 10-30 minute ride away from action in Ipanema and Copa.[/QUOTE]The Sheraton is not on a particularly nice or clean beach and its isolated location is not great either. So I prefer to stay at hotels on Copa or Ipanema Beach or when I want to focus more on the beach and nature activities, I will stay at a hotel on Barra. The RJ Hyatt is fucking great, but the Hyatt is a minimum 35-minute ride to 4 x4. That is the trade-off.

To sum up: I have stayed at and recommend the Windsor California and the Fairmont on Copa, and the Hyatt on Barra, Of these 3 hotels, the Hyatt is the nicest, IMHO, and on the best stretch of beach. The Fairmont has a great location to enjoy both Copa AND Ipanema Beaches. The Windsor California is smack dab in the middle of Copa Beach and close to a few Copa nightclubs, pick up bars, and Terma Monte Carlo. The Fasano Hotel is an exceptional hotel too with a great location. I stayed there once during the Covid BS in April 2021 for a really low rate. Today, Fasano will run you almost 3 times as much money. But if you don't mind paying its extraordinary price, it's a great hotel in a great location on Ipanema beach and it is walking distance to Copacabana beach.

So I booked hotel malaga close to villa mimosa. I is a love hotel, very safe and comfortable. My room was very quirt except for moanings but not too loud. It is 10 min to VM walking but not recommended. I took a cab for $ 4 USD. I arrived at 1000 pm but it was too early. The girls did not really arrived before midnight. There where around 40 girls in the club; although all of them were doable, nobody really caught my attention. I paid my 6 $ usd and left at 130 and got a black girl with big bubble butt for $ 25 Usd for 1 hour.

However I just stayed 20 min as it was a really small cabin.

Overall, Vm is not as big as I thought but not as scary too.

Would I return? Fck yes.

So, second below is a report by Dante, an artist of long standing on [URL]gparena.net[/URL].

If you are coming to Rio, every hour you spend on GParena will pay dividends.

It is a fair report, but the best talent is at 116 and 202 (around the corner on the Av Pres Vargas side, rua teolino or something like that, see my previous post to xvideos chanel damas e vagabundos, being a vagabundo, I approve).

So, the week in baseball.

I fucked a hot negra with a hot negra bundinha, tight, athletic, and with a super tight ass, not just the bundinha but the cuzinha, her eyes bugging out as I drilled her ass, her pussy getting wet to the touch of my fingers up her pussy past her clit as I gave her a colonoscopy after face fucking the negra's mouth with her big wet black lips, getting the gagging at the back of the throat, the eyes rolling back as I choked the negra before going straight to the ass in motel sheik. That was Monday, just because I wanted to fuck a tight negra ass. I took a indriver to centro, 40 r. I paid for 4 hours 90 r. I paid the negra 150 r. She stayed for all of 20 minutes, a well practiced session. Next time, I will probably give her multiple creampies up her ass, but I just wanted a quick shot of jameson's neat, and I scratched the itch, 40 r back to barra in indriver.

So, then I guess Tuesday nina deponca came over for a massage deep tissue, and two fucks, straight up her mulatta ass, along with 20 minute blow jobs. She shaved me balls and my ass, and I made her lick my ass (beijos negra). So, I paid her 500. I may have noted that previously here in these pages.

A regular negra came over Wednesday just for the afternoon, and we fucked BBFS, between a local favorite restaurant, camarada camarao. Highly recommended. BBFS 20 year old pussy and the shrimp chopp never get old.

Thursday I met nina deponca up in caixas at a new hotel, hotel center or something. We fucked once, and I got a few massages. 300 r.

I met up with an isger and a patrol of 116,202, mv30, club 31,04, as noted in a previous post. 202 before or after 4 x4. Trust me. Here's the thing. Local girls hate gringos, but they go to 4 x4 for higher pay. 4 x4 quality girls prefer to be at 202 or 116. Because those are local clubs, bomberinho, see dante's post below. So, get your gem at 116 or 202. Especially 202. OMFG, what mulatta PSE talent.

Sabado.

Met up with ISGer Wadpha at metro osorio. Great wingman. Fair wings and following seas. We went to metro uruguiana and went over to Emporio do Banho. Wingman selected a hot little morena on 3 d floor. Vagabundo requested nani, by name. It was 13 h40 hours. Half hour 100 r. I fucked Nani like a perverted rabbi banging a daughter of one of my congregation in a secret hook up in the bedroom of a centro sex emporium after kind of lame french kisses, and sucking on her porn star perfect morena clara nipples. She comes into the room, I am showered, spread eagled, jerking off my dick, condoms and my 100 r on the second bed in the very nice rooms, and she starts sucking my erect penis. No deep throat, no 69, I am probably her 3 d fuck of the day. I revel in the pure seedy decadence of this low rent sperm donor clinic. She lubes my dick, slides on the skyn condom, lubes the rubber around my phallus, and sits on me, and rides me, and it is a good fuck. Then after 5 minutes we go to frango assado, which is missionary with her legs up around my ears, and I pile drive her for 15 minutes as hard as I can.

By the way, pro tip coming here, I play felipe ret, full album.

That music is close to being weed. If you want better fucks, then play felipe ret.

All the time I am fucking her, I say romantic things like.

Quanto pirocas vc fude hoje (how many dicks have you fucked today).

Vc quer suruba com pretos (you want a gang bang with black guys).

Yes.

Vou levar vc no praia nudismo e vc chupa dez pirocas (I will take you to a nude beach and you will suck ten dicks).

Then I flipped her over into doggy style (de quatro), and I came.

I paid her the 100 and tipped her 20.

Monica mattos quality little morena who even jimmy boy fucked, which is the highest rating you can have in rio de janeiro / Brazil prives.

[URL]https://www.emporiodobanhorj.com/massagistas[/URL]

OK, now, all ye good jews gentiles christians muslims heathens and even women with strapons I want YOU to come to rio and fuck Nani at Emporio, and to inject 100 r into the BRIC bank, and all together praise its president Dilma ALL of you. Be a good customer.

I recommend a dupla.

She is actual friends (get on her insta) with monique, a mulata morena with a perfect ass.

I mean its cheap. For the price of a hour, 100 meters away at 4 x4 you could do nani and monique as a warm up fuck.

You should.

Just so as a newly escaped prisoner from pussy prison USA man park you don't act like a sex crazed gringo bad client all too hungry at 4 x4, like most of you who escape from your gamer bedroom in your mother's house in some colony of vikings in a northern American state, having your one month in 11 of sexual freedom.

Go fuck Nani. Hot ass white girl.

OK, so, then after fucking nani, which again, all of you should do too, Vagabundo and Wadpho met up at spoleto, across the street.

Sala Rua do Rosário, 135 - 202 e 302.

Is the address for Emporio BTW, for all you sports fans who are not actually in rio but are dripping pre cum all over your keyboards.

Then we went over to darkroom, where there were 3 sperm donor nurses on duty.

Any, dara, and.

Vagabundo picked dara.

Because it's just 100 r for a half hour, and it's cardio.

First, she was timid, asking me to shower, but I just had.

She smelled my dick, and after smelling fresh soap from around the corner at emporio, she licked the tip.

No deep throat.

I mean, fine.

No kissing. Eh, but the main feature with dara is huge, natural, 36 DD did I mention double fucking the, low hanging tits. Oh man, mulatta tits. Firm and saggy to the touch, with HUGE nipples. I was back in the crib breast feeding as I sucked on those nipples and closed my eyes and rolled back in my lizard brain to being a 3 month year old in the Rothschild mansion in mother fucking Lugano, Switzerland, where we Jewish members of the Italian Swiss guard hatched a plot to start Swiss navy brand of anal sex lube.

She doesn't do anal.

But for my 20 USD sucking on those big tits with nipples far larger than a Kennedy silver half dollar was worth every centavo.

She did suck my dick, just the tip, but I got hard, which was saying something after fucking Nani just 20 minutes before like a man deeply in both love and sadistic perverted lust.

Then she lubed my dick, just a drop.

Then she put my second skyn condom of the afternoon onto my erect member (by the way, swiss navy LLC LTDA does have a cross marketing deal with SKYN so go buy some SKYN condoms). Haha, that is just a joke, bad lawyer humor.

And she sat on my dick with her pussy which had already given birth to one child.

I fucked her for 3 minutes, then to doggy style for another 4 minutes, maybe. I usually do lie in my writing. As hemingway said, all great writers are liars. Uris too. But I digress.

I faked a orgasm. I was getting a little soft, and I knew I didn't have another load in me at the moment. So it goes. I asked for and she gave me a tepid massage, perhaps because I didn't shower.

I staggered back out to the bar area, linked up with wingman, and we ubered back. Great day. I have been texting some other regulars, so as I write this on a Sunday, I may still have a few more loads to blow in rio's finest hoars' hot boxes, which beats jerking off while playing your favorite game on your desktop computer back in man park, castrated by AOC in pussy prison.

Here in Rio, you can:

1. fuck an AOC, ie, Nani, whom I shall designate callsign AOC.

2. while fucking Kamala Harris, ie, Monique, whom I shall designate callsign Kamala.

All while AOC eats Kamala's clit, tongue on clit (which is grelo or greluda in the local language). Just play felipe ret.

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Back to the cabaret. As I said, I'm a little tired of freelance girls, nothing that appeals to me at the moment or that seems to meet my more specific expectations. Also, I need the thrill of the hunt, even if it's simulated. Freelancers are for sedentary clients, I'm older, I need movement and cognitive stimuli. I decided on a place I hadn't been to for months, the notorious Bombeirinho, in the most remote corners of Rua the Conceição.

It became unhealthy to walk along Avenida Marechal Floriano after a certain night, so I opted to take Presidente Vargas, cross a limbic square on the side of Rua the Conceição and finally reach number 116. The bar on the corner was still open, I sat down I went to one of the empty tables and asked for a Black Label, it's a well-stocked bar and they brought my order right away. Three doses to strengthen the soul and gain momentum to climb the countless stairs that separate the street from the hell lane.

The house is gloomy, poorly maintained and the most accurate description I can give of the room where the girls show off is to compare it to a cave. To be surgical, the environment reminds me of the Batcave from the movies. The place wasn't full, I counted more women than men. I danced up to the counter and ordered an Ice.

There is a moment in the alcoholic process when the pupils dilate, the colors are accentuated, the lights are brighter and bottled happiness is released and dominates us in a wave of euphoria. That's what I felt suddenly, without warning. I reached drunken status.

I have a good feel for the brothel scene. More than luck, the instinct for a good choice favors me. The last one was the warm Cacau, which I met at Só Love on Rua the Alfândega. I was contemplating the Bombeirinho runway and saw a white girl appear, breasts on display, a small belly adorned with sections from a workout, thick legs and a face without facial harmony and pretty even so. I framed the target in the crosshairs and moved forward to approach her.

She introduced herself as Jane. Up close, she revealed herself to be more attractive and, above all, fragrant. She used those perfumes that mark the memory more than the senses. She asked me for a Red Bull, I didn't deny it and we sat down for the basic interview.

"What don't you do? I ask straight away.

"I just don't like to be spanked," she replies with a dubious smile.

I confirmed the woman's predisposition by throwing in a few more items from my questionnaire and she completed the survey with flying colors. Alcove.

Bombeirinho's rooms are not rooms, they are cells. Tiny, the only decoration is a kind of miniature sofa that looks like a divan and where a good balance is needed to practice sex. One false move and the ground is the limit for a fall that can be embarrassing.

Jane is a very good kisser, she delivers her tongue, her lips, her saliva. Royal kiss. I always say that there are working girls who say they kiss and at the moment I kiss teeth, hair, nose, eyebrows and I never find the mouth. I don't know what these imposters mean by a kiss on the mouth. Jane kisses shamelessly, without control.

If she bends down to suck me, she bites the oppressed Pikachu — the short one — causing me to feel as if she was sucking me not with her mouth, but with her larynx. My cock went deep, as if it were being invited to meet the girl's intestines. The depth of Jane's penile hunger caused a few more of my fragile pubes to turn white. Extraordinary blowjob, which forced me to use Buddhist techniques to avoid premature ejaculation. I thought of the advertising for the Boston Group, the Feira de São Cristóvão, the pastry with sugarcane juice, and I managed to prevent my sap from overflowing too soon.

Jane came over to kiss me more as she rubbed dangerously against the little Pikachu. I confess, I was good. The girl wanted to tease me, like she wanted to see what I would do with the condom. At one point, we were so tangled up that a photo could have the viewer mistaking us for Siamese twins. On the brink of penile collapse, I asked her to get on all fours.

The girl lifted her ass in the erotic toboggan configuration, the position I like the most. My cock was not hard, but petrified, I entered slowly, praying and thanking the grace received. Jane, more than anyone, is a woman to be fucked on her knees. I punched at an increasing rate, the pervert moaned loudly, wiggled, contracted her vagina in a way capable of driving a man crazy. When I came, I came so hard I felt like I was going to dissolve along with the orgasm. I fell almost unconscious on the small divan, scaring away a few thousand mites.

There was no time left for a chat. I put on my clothes and went back to the streets. If someone on the sidewalks warned me that I was levitating, I would certainly believe it. The adventure continues. Dance.

[QUOTE=Junior;2814689]Sheraton Leblon is GF and a very decent hotel. It is however a 10-30 minute ride away from action in Ipanema and Copa.[/QUOTE]The Sheraton has a free shuttle that will drop you anywhere along the beach and goes to the mall.

Great post, especially about using malaga as a temporary base.

The thing to do is to walk DURING THE DAY to VM, and also to massagemtijuca.

Go to eat at aconchega carioca, just across the street from malaga!

Do map recon on google.

[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

Guide of motels above.

Professionals study logistics.

The 6 s's -- shit shower shave supper sex sleep -- are all on that link.

Spend 80 reais for a microfiber blanket maybe, and get a suite with a hidro.

[URL]https://www.massagemtijuca.com/[/URL]

Walk during the day to massagemtijuca, mosaico, vm.

Good 2 km walk or even jog.

Even if you stay in the hilton in copa, stay a few nights in motel malaga, and in largo do machado, in motel bambina or motel panda.

Ok, here's a little social history geographical note.

On the same block as panda is a church which is the result of the founder of rio de Janeiro. Riddle that and you understand rio.

Great report.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2814811]So I booked hotel malaga close to villa mimosa. I is a love hotel, very safe and comfortable. My room was very quirt except for moanings but not too loud. It is 10 min to VM walking but not recommended. I took a cab for $ 4 USD. I arrived at 1000 pm but it was too early. The girls did not really arrived before midnight. There where around 40 girls in the club; although all of them were doable, nobody really caught my attention. I paid my 6 $ usd and left at 130 and got a black girl with big bubble butt for $ 25 Usd for 1 hour.

However I just stayed 20 min as it was a really small cabin.

Overall, Vm is not as big as I thought but not as scary too.

Would I return? Fck yes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2814813]So, second below is a report by Dante, an artist of long standing on [URL]gparena.net[/URL].

It is a fair report, but the best talent is at 116 and 202 (around the corner on the Av Pres Vargas side, rua teolino or something like that, see my previous post to xvideos chanel damas e vagabundos, being a vagabundo, I approve).

... Trust me. Here's the thing. Local girls hate gringos, but they go to 4 x4 for higher pay. 4 x4 quality girls prefer to be at 202 or 116. Because those are local clubs, bomberinho.... So, get your gem at 116 or 202. Especially 202....[/QUOTE]So you're saying that local girls hate gringos and that 202 and 116 have better talent than 4 x4 all else equal? That's the first I'm hearing of this! I've had girls tell me that the hygiene of locals is worse and of course we pay better (and sometimes tip).

Yes that is what I am saying.

They want someone who speaks their own language.

Even if they have a dirty asshole and are poor.

I am saying the best talent at 116 (photos to follow) are as good as 4 x4. And at 150 for the hour, just go blow a load and see.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2814878]So you're saying that local girls hate gringos and that 202 and 116 have better talent than 4 x4 all else equal? That's the first I'm hearing of this! I've had girls tell me that the hygiene of locals is worse and of course we pay better (and sometimes tip).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2814813]So, second below is a report by Dante, an artist of long standing on [URL]gparena.net[/URL].

If you are coming to Rio, every hour you spend on GParena will pay dividends.

It is a fair report, but the best talent is at 116 and 202 (around the corner on the Av Pres Vargas side, rua teolino or something like that, see my previous post to xvideos chanel damas e vagabundos, being a vagabundo, I approve).[/QUOTE]Thanks for another fantastic report.

Dante is an amazing writer. Even via Google Translate he's fun to read, which I didn't think was possible until I found his musings. Find his report from 4 x4 about a girl who tried to sell him Herbalife. I laughed so hard, my jaw hurt.

Totally agree about Gparena. It's a treasure and has all the info anyone might ever need in Rio.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2814880]Yes that is what I am saying.

They want someone who speaks their own language.

Even if they have a dirty asshole and are poor.

I am saying the best talent at 116 (photos to follow) are as good as 4 x4. And at 150 for the hour, just go blow a load and see.[/QUOTE]I will be in Rio in 2 weeks. I wil check out 202. Its hard to believe that 202 has the same talent as 4 x4. But seeing is believing.

You only need one or two as good as 4 x4 at 150 r.

Come at 18 h before it gets packed.

Super hot mulatta as good or better than any at 4 x4.

Wadpho said he would write a report.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2815061]I will be in Rio in 2 weeks. I wil check out 202. Its hard to believe that 202 has the same talent as 4 x4. But seeing is believing.[/QUOTE]

The Week in Baseball ends Sunday night fuck.

So I had that itch and called the hot negra with the super tight ass. We hit Motel Sheik at 23 h after a delay from some work zoom calls.

She sucked with those phat negra lips and my dick was rock hard. I bent her over in doggy, and slid my dick in her ass, and as always her eyes bugged out and became about twice as big.

I guess that moment alone is worth the 150 r which is 30 USD.

She wanted to change to missionary / frango assado (with a pillow under her ass to put her cuzinha up in the air for better anal fucking), and I did. Nice kissing those lips. I slow fucked that tight ass and kissed her mouth and her pussy became wet, and she played with her clit.

I changed her to on her belly, and I went up her ass again. She couldn't take it. I am not a huge dude, but I like to pound that asshole for 20 30 minutes, and she could only take a few minutes, and was kind of in pain. She needs to be widened, haha. In the words of Story of O. She is a passista, from one of the samba schools, a semi pro and obviously her super muscled back door is not as ready for bratwurst as it will be as I train her ass. But I am not into causing pain, unless the girl is a masochist. And I am just getting to know this hoar.

So, I turned her over in frango assado and finished after a few minutes.

Like I said, for 150 r, 90 r for the hotel, and 90 r for uber, it is fck you money, and I did fck!

All in, last week it was.

5 or 6 girls for 10-12 fucks.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2814889]Thanks for another fantastic report.

Dante is an amazing writer. Even via Google Translate he's fun to read, which I didn't think was possible until I found his musings. Find his report from 4 x4 about a girl who tried to sell him Herbalife. I laughed so hard, my jaw hurt.

Totally agree about Gparena. It's a treasure and has all the info anyone might ever need in Rio.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2815088]You only need one or two as good as 4 x4 at 150 r.

Come at 18 h before it gets packed.

Super hot mulatta as good or better than any at 4 x4.

Wadpho said he would write a report.[/QUOTE]Uh no. I think I would want a good selection not just one or two LOL, but that's me. Also, everything you've written has referred to the negras and mulattas at 116 and 202. Do they have hot girls of other ethnicities like 4 x4, Monte Carlo, or Solarium?

White enough for you? 116 talent, who specifically said she doesn't want to work at 4 x4. Credit to pv118.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2815160]Uh no. I think I would want a good selection not just one or two LOL, but that's me. Also, everything you've written has referred to the negras and mulattas at 116 and 202. Do they have hot girls of other ethnicities like 4 x4, Monte Carlo, or Solarium?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2815319]White enough for you? 116 talent, who specifically said she doesn't want to work at 4 x4. Credit to pv118.[/QUOTE]Looks pretty red to me! But tasty! Does that tatoo looks better in real life than in that photo?

Here is my short review for the 4 days I have been to Rio during mid April 2023.

This is my 4th time going to Rio de Janeiro.

I travel quite often around the world. See my other reviews (Korea, Bogota, Berling and many more).

I will do it quick and short this time:

Staying:

I really prefer Copacabana. It is not that dangerous. At night I use Uber. It is closer to the center with Uber. Much closer than Barra de Tijuca. It has its own establishments which I like. Like Monte-Carlo, Mab's and Dolce-Vita. It is even closer to Solarium. The beach is nice (might not be the best, but this is not why I go to Rio anyways).

Not to use anything on the Internet:

I had only a moderate to bad experience from any of the websites. Had one good experience on Tinder with a working girl. And had 3 bad experiences on Tinder. Had only bad experiences from any other sites. Photoacomanhates, or BarraVips or anything. Girls were late. Girls were not so nice. Girls look worse in reality than in the photos. Ain't much.

Booked two girls, took them two hours to get. They were Ok but very inexperienced and boring.

Good places:

I had very good experiences in the Termas: Monte-Carlo*+ Solarium*+ 4 x4: Nice girls, fair price, even took a few girls to my hotel room. I can check the girls' talk with them to make sure we fit. I also had two very good experiences*from Dolce-Vita. Found two brancas very submissive.

Met a girl in Dolce-Vita works as a Samba dancer. Cute, smart, lovely smile. Took her to be with me for two days. She does anal, she opens her legs very wide. Paid $300 USD per day!

Basically I just love Rio, great atmosphere, cool girls, quite low prices (although Bogota lower).

The red is the camera software on the smartphone.

Even allowing for that you can tell she is not mulatta much less negra.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2815432]Looks pretty red to me! But tasty! Does that tatoo looks better in real life than in that photo?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Avivis;2815437]Here is my short review for the 4 days I have been to Rio during mid April 2023.[/QUOTE]Seems like you've taken in a lot of territory in 4 days. Kudos!

Thanks for your report.

Been with the girlfriend a few days in Rio, today I'm off to Centro and VM later on.

It's a bit of a rainy day, but I'll work it out Lol.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2813269]I usually buy bustickets online using my CPF. If you buy the ticket on the bus company's website there will be no extra fee. However if you buy the ticket on other sites, like Clickbus and Queropassagem, they will add a fee. If you want to buy the ticket in advance it's often cheaper (depending on which city you are located) to take an Uber back and forth to the Rodoviaria than paying the Clickbus fee.

There are also agencies that sell bustickets. In Copacabana there are Guanatur on Rua Dias the Rocha 16 and Sami Tour on Av Nossa Sra de Copacabana 1022. They do charge a fee but you don't have to go to the Rodoviaria to buy your ticket and no CPF is needed.

Leito is the most comfortable, but I prefer Executivo. Executivo is much cheaper and the comfort is really good.[/QUOTE]Dear Sperto,

I've been trying to get a hold of you in every way imaginable. PMed, posted on Joao Pessoa thread but to no avail. I'm considering a trip to Joao Pessoa / Recife area and you seem to be an expert on all things Northeast. Could you please respond!

Thank you amigo.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2815762]Dear Sperto,
I've been trying to get a hold of you in every way imaginable. PMed, posted on Joao Pessoa thread but to no avail. I'm considering a trip to Joao Pessoa / Recife area and you seem to be an expert on all things Northeast. Could you please respond!
Thank you amigo.[/QUOTE]I didn't answer you because most questions were not necessary to ask if you had bothered to read half a page. Where to stay, where there is action, where is Gringos bar, everything is already mentioned. Your other questions seemed thoughtless. How long you should stay is your decision and propably depends on how long holiday you have. If you can bring girls to your hotel, ask the hotel.

Your other questions in the PM: If it will be hard for you to pick up regular girls, only you knows your skills. You also had a bunch of questions about Scandalo in Sao Paulo, I've never been there but you can find all the answers in the Sao Paulo thread.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2815912]I didn't answer you because most questions were not necessary to ask if you had bothered to read half a page. Where to stay, where there is action, where is Gringos bar, everything is already mentioned. Your other questions seemed thoughtless. How long you should stay is your decision and propably depends on how long holiday you have. If you can bring girls to your hotel, ask the hotel.

Your other questions in the PM: If it will be hard for you to pick up regular girls, only you knows your skills. You also had a bunch of questions about Scandalo in Sao Paulo, I've never been there but you can find all the answers in the Sao Paulo thread.[/QUOTE]I rarely agree with Sperto on anything but this time I do. I will often do the same thing (not respond) when people send me inquiries that clearly indicate they haven't taken the time to RTFF. And if someone thinks they don't have the time to do that then why would they believe it's OK to expect others to give up their valuable time to help them? Help yourself first by RTFF so that you can ask informed questions later. I know that the old timers can come across sometimes as "not suffering fools gladly", but we get tired of answering the same questions over and over and over again when all somebody has to do is [B]read[/B] what's already been written. Want to save time? Then read as many of the Reports of Distinction as you can. If you only do that much then you're well on your way to learning what you need to know without needing too much of the time and attention of the more seasoned members here. Mongers will help other mongers who have first helped themselves.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2816060] ... Help yourself first by RTFF ... Want to save time? Then read as many of the Reports of Distinction as you can. If you only do that much then you're well on your way to learning what you need to know without needing too much of the time and attention of the more seasoned members here. Mongers will help other mongers who have first helped themselves.[/QUOTE]The Reports of Distinction (or RODs) can be very informative and sometimes in the subsequent posts, discussions and opinions that follow a ROD being posted, will often present several good reads from other BMs. This inevitably gives you a balanced perspective on topics (or related topics), that were perhaps reported on, in a ROD.

Also, don't overlook the the powerful (if not sometimes quirky) ISG Search features, such as Search Thread or Advanced Search. Or if you wish to view more posts from a BM, use the "View Forum Posts" and "View Posts", if you [B]left-click[/B] your mouse over the a BMs ("blue highlighted") name, to see recent posts by a particular BM.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2815912]I didn't answer you because most questions were not necessary to ask if you had bothered to read half a page. Where to stay, where there is action, where is Gringos bar, everything is already mentioned. Your other questions seemed thoughtless. How long you should stay is your decision and propably depends on how long holiday you have. If you can bring girls to your hotel, ask the hotel.

Your other questions in the PM: If it will be hard for you to pick up regular girls, only you knows your skills. You also had a bunch of questions about Scandalo in Sao Paulo, I've never been there but you can find all the answers in the Sao Paulo thread.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2816060]I rarely agree with Sperto on anything but this time I do. I will often do the same thing (not respond) when people send me inquiries that clearly indicate they haven't taken the time to RTFF. And if someone thinks they don't have the time to do that then why would they believe it's OK to expect others to give up their valuable time to help them? Help yourself first by RTFF so that you can ask informed questions later. I know that the old timers can come across sometimes as "not suffering fools gladly", but we get tired of answering the same questions over and over and over again when all somebody has to do is [B]read[/B] what's already been written. Want to save time? Then read as many of the Reports of Distinction as you can. If you only do that much then you're well on your way to learning what you need to know without needing too much of the time and attention of the more seasoned members here. Mongers will help other mongers who have first helped themselves.[/QUOTE]People I'm speechless. There hardly any info on Joao Pessoa. I googled "Gringo Irish Bar" the way it was presented in the thread and got no hits. Now I just googled "Gringo bar" and found out that it's closed. Sure I can search Trip Adviser for where to find girls in Joao Pessoa, or I can ask the only hobbyist who actually seems like he is in the know and has an updated info on the place. And this is the response I get? Go ask the hotel if they allow working girls in? Don't bother me with your vacation plans? Damn man.

As for Scandalo yes can find all the info you want about the girls that this guy met, or that guy met and how awesome it is but some more practical pointed questions I prefer to ask particular hobbyists. Be as it may, I did read. I still had some questions to ask even about Scandalo. I did. God bless Vaga and his gang.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2816060]I rarely agree with Sperto on anything but this time I do. I will often do the same thing (not respond) when people send me inquiries that clearly indicate they haven't taken the time to RTFF. And if someone thinks they don't have the time to do that then why would they believe it's OK to expect others to give up their valuable time to help them? Help yourself first by RTFF so that you can ask informed questions later. [b]I know that the old timers can come across sometimes as "not suffering fools gladly", but we get tired of answering the same questions over and over and over again when all somebody has to do is [B]read[/B] what's already been written[/b]. Want to save time? Then read as many of the Reports of Distinction as you can. If you only do that much then you're well on your way to learning what you need to know without needing too much of the time and attention of the more seasoned members here. [b]Mongers will help other mongers who have first helped themselves.[/b][/QUOTE]I have all but stopped responding as well. The same fundamental questions are asked every other week.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4045-Stupid-Shit-in-Brazil&p=2797956&viewfull=1#post2797956[/url]

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2816162]People I'm speechless. There hardly any info on Joao Pessoa. I googled "Gringo Irish Bar" the way it was presented in the thread and got no hits. Now I just googled "Gringo bar" and found out that it's closed. Sure I can search Trip Adviser for where to find girls in Joao Pessoa, or I can ask the only hobbyist who actually seems like he is in the know and has an updated info on the place. And this is the response I get? Go ask the hotel if they allow working girls in? Don't bother me with your vacation plans? Damn man.[/QUOTE]I presented it like "Gringos Bar". Google it and you find it'll open at 6 PM (takes 10 seconds to Google). From the Joo Pessoa thread, 4 post down:

[QUOTE=Sperto;2785465]João Pessoa continues to be a pleasant pearl in Nordeste. Lots of goodlooking girls in the Tambaú area. Many good bars and restaurants along the orla. Several streetwalkers looking for business. Behind the handicraft square is a boate called "Gringos Bar". I didn't go there but my impression is that the place is some kind of strip club[/QUOTE]Of course you should ask the hotel if they allow visits. Different hotels have different rules. It's not like they have a special law in Joo Pessoa regardings visits that all hotels have to obey.

Anyway, this is the Rio de Janeiro thread.

Board Member after board member returned with "RTFF" response to the guy asking redundant questions and there were no issues. But when I gave the same freaking response 6 months ago to a guy who asked where 4 X4 was, I got a warning from the moderator! WTH? So are the rules the same for everyone or have they changed? Are we now allowed to tell a newbie to not waste the board's time with questions they can easily find the answer to from this site or using Google?

Based on a recent post, I just want to give my two. Cents. This board consists of two different people, one of people who live in Rio. Or visit frequently or guys that are planning their first first trip or maybe their second, and are looking for advice and help. If this board is in fact for everybody, then I think the people that are very familiar with this aspect of Rio should be a little bit more welcoming to the new members. Over the last two years I've been to Rio three times and I'm much more informed now. But when I hear these responses over and over, that everything has been posted before when there are literally hundreds of pages to go through and many posts, do not relate to a newbie or a new visitor to Rio, it can be very difficult to sit through all the post to get the basic information one needs. So I myself will be more diligent and helping others as others help me when I was a new. This form literally has GUIDEin the title and if you're not willing to help the new people out then maybe you're the one who's on the wrong board.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2816473] Are we now allowed to tell a newbie to not waste the board's time with questions they can easily find the answer to from this site or using Google?[/QUOTE]TBH, I don't remember a single issue with RTFF, like ever. I mean from one thread to another, RTFF's are plentiful and unapologetic, LOL. To the point, sometimes, that the amount of "tough love" can feel a little bit excessive and overwhelming to newbies who never read the rules (whether not reading the rules is acceptable or not is another story, but people just don't).

I'm a little surprised you got reprimanded for something as benign as RTFF. Maybe, the admins should come up with something like RTFFPF especially for Latin America forums (guess what "PF" would stand for, kkkk).

What annoys me more than asking questions is a disappearing act after asking questions. (I just wasted 15 minutes of my life to give you a thoughtful response, you dick, it wouldn't kill you to say "thank you".

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2816162]People I'm speechless. There hardly any info on Joao Pessoa. I googled "Gringo Irish Bar" the way it was presented in the thread and got no hits. Now I just googled "Gringo bar" and found out that it's closed. Sure I can search Trip Adviser for where to find girls in Joao Pessoa, or I can ask the only hobbyist who actually seems like he is in the know and has an updated info on the place. And this is the response I get? Go ask the hotel if they allow working girls in? Don't bother me with your vacation plans? Damn man. Snip [/QUOTE]I googled "gringo bar jao de pessoa" and I got this result [URL]https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gringo[/URL]+bar+jao+de+pessoa&atb=v334-1&t=chromentp&ia=web, which showed the club's website info and opening hours (strangely, when I googled "gringo bar joao de pessoa", which is the correct name for the city, I got this instead [URL]https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gringo[/URL]+bar+joao+de+pessoa&atb=v334-1&t=chromentp&ia=web, which doesn't have the bar's website). Don't know why your search came up with it being closed.

[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2816543]Based on a recent post, I just want to give my two. Cents. This board consists of two different people, one of people who live in Rio. Or visit frequently or guys that are planning their first first trip or maybe their second, and are looking for advice and help. If this board is in fact for everybody, then I think the people that are very familiar with this aspect of Rio should be a little bit more welcoming to the new members. Over the last two years I've been to Rio three times and I'm much more informed now. But when I hear these responses over and over, that everything has been posted before when there are literally hundreds of pages to go through and many posts, do not relate to a newbie or a new visitor to Rio, it can be very difficult to sit through all the post to get the basic information one needs. So I myself will be more diligent and helping others as others help me when I was a new. This form literally has GUIDEin the title and if you're not willing to help the new people out then maybe you're the one who's on the wrong board.[/QUOTE]It think it's a balance. I am very generous with information and agree reading tens of pages is silly when you can ask. But there are guys that come on that don't even read a page or two. Like literally a question is already answered theee posts down. I mean some guys are just lazy as fuck takers and that's annoying. But yeah if you have read a few pages and don't have an answer ask away IMO.

It's funny tho because you know this whole "it's all repeated" thing is by design to keep a forum going. It would be super easy to compile an FAQ for every destination and boom we are done. No discussion needed. But then the forum would die and it's kinda fun. Fwiw I have written a book that covers almost everywhere I've been. Thailand Spain Germany Switzerland England Brazil USA and prob a couple more. I am happy to share it with like minded folks as long as it's kept private. Just hmu on message.

[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2816543]This form literally has GUIDE in the title and if you're not willing to help the new people out then maybe you're the one who's on the wrong board.[/QUOTE]Yes, "Guide" is in the title isn't it? Well what does that mean? So a "Guide" can be a person or a thing that advises, suggests, leads, or shows the way to others, among other things. That's essentially what it means to "guide" another person. It certainly doesn't mean doing all or even most of the work for somebody else and / or feeling any obligation whatsoever to constantly repeat the same stuff over and over again just because somebody is a newbie seeking information. There's absolutely nothing wrong with helping a newbie, but just like with anything else in life, people are more drawn to helping others when they see that those same able bodied persons are willing to do things to help themselves.

A newbie needs to learn, and one of the best ways to do that in a place like this is to [B]read[/B] that which has already been written which will answer many of their basic questions. Once they've done that then they can ask [B]intelligent and informed[/B] questions that show they've done some homework and won't just be mostly a waste of time for others. I know there's a lot of information in these pages making it extremely hard to digest it all in a usable way. That's why I "guide" newbies to the [B]Reports of Distinction[/B] that offer a more condensed source of invaluable information. It works. Reports end up in the RODs for a reason. They tend to be some of the most well-written reports available on the site full of useful details, background, history, and often of great entertainment value (also many with photos). Remember that time is one of the most valuable resources we have. My time, your time, everybody's time. So when a newbie comes to a place like this and starts asking a bunch of questions that easily show they haven't used any of their own valuable time to RTFF, then why should anybody else here surrender their valuable time to the newbie when the newbie wasn't willing spend any of their own time on themselves in order to learn? Things that carry value don't transfer for free. Sometimes you have to spend a lot to get a lot (or even a little).

People aren't going to be willing to do that (give up their valuable time to those who won't even spend any of their own time to help themselves), and occasionally just might let the newbie know, especially one who keep pestering for intel. I think that any suggestion that the forum might "die off" lest people keep entertaining the inquires of the lazy are rather disingenuous. And as someone else here noted, wouldn't it be nice if these inquiring newbies would say "thank you" when guidance is provided to them? You rarely ever see that, let alone a report giving back to the community after they showed up asking all of these questions, many of which they would have had the answers to if only they had put in some effort and some of their own time. How many of us have seen a newbie post, "And I'll be sure to report back"? Only for them to never be heard from again? Yep, famously repeated last words. Talk about over and over and over again! Newbies need to RTFF. And if that's too much to ask, then no [B]they[/B] are the ones who are on the wrong board. After all, it's the old timers who helped to build this place and who sustain it. Not a newbie. Not until if and when they too achieve what it takes to become one of the contributing old timers.

Vagabundo hit emporio today. Super hot new morena was the choice for 100 r. Great session, all covered fucking. Eita.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2816548]......What annoys me more than asking questions is a disappearing act after asking questions. (I just wasted 15 minutes of my life to give you a thoughtful response, you dick, it wouldn't kill you to say "thank you".[/QUOTE]Then these same dicks go, use your information, have a good time and don't leave trip reports.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2817011]Then these same dicks go, use your information, have a good time and don't leave trip reports.[/QUOTE]First post ever here long time lurker. I read up on the CTG thread and had a fantastic time. Or 6 times. I have read the last 50 pages here and have even made a little map. I think I found the secret 116 don't know if I have the balls to actually go but I think I'm close. Don't know when my trip is but I did do the same for months before I went to Colombia and had a blast and never returned the favor. This time I will. Thanksto all of you for the info.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2817011]Then these same dicks go, use your information, have a good time and don't leave trip reports.[/QUOTE]I know the nerve[b].....[/b]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2817011]Then these same dicks go, use your information, have a good time and don't leave trip reports.[/QUOTE]LOL, they're too busy to write "thank you". Trip report would be mission impossible.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2816695]It think it's a balance. I am very generous with information and agree reading tens of pages is silly when you can ask. But there are guys that come on that don't even read a page or two. Like literally a question is already answered theee posts down. I mean some guys are just lazy as fuck takers and that's annoying. But yeah if you have read a few pages and don't have an answer ask away IMO.

It's funny tho because you know this whole "it's all repeated" thing is by design to keep a forum going. It would be super easy to compile an FAQ for every destination and boom we are done. No discussion needed. But then the forum would die and it's kinda fun. Fwiw I have written a book that covers almost everywhere I've been. Thailand Spain Germany Switzerland England Brazil USA and prob a couple more. I am happy to share it with like minded folks as long as it's kept private. Just hmu on message.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's a balance. I don't think the forum dies with laying things out in Reports of Distinction or in a FAQ. There are always things changing and evolving on the ground. I also enjoy reading others' "Penthouse Letters" stories even if they provide no new information. I do wish members that hook-up with an incredible girl would provide a name and contact info more often publicly or privately. "I'm going to keep this one to myself" comments are kind of silly. The girl fucked two hundred guys the six months leading up to one's arrival and will fuck two hundred more in the next six months. Hell, some of these girls even have ads on the internet. (Note: I wouldn't expect guys to share the Seeking Arrangements contacts they cultivated.)

Regarding the newbies showing up cold and asking "Where do I find girls in Rio?" or "I leave tomorrow for Rio. I have no time to read the forum," it's fairly obvious who can't be bothered to put in a bit of time reading. Just the other day a guy showed up on the Montreal thread saying he couldn't find any of the escort agencies people were discussing. The five major agencies were noted just a few posts down. I actually don't think he could be troubled to do a google search to find their websites.

By the way the more you travel the globe, the more you realize knowing where the sex venues are has limited value. They all have their nuances and operate differently. It is imperative that one reads through some of the reports in context to understand the drill. Recently, I believe we had a Pattaya regular asking about Rio or SP as if their was a string of go-go bars or strip clubs just lined up where you just hung out the entire trip.

From Duran Duran, "Rio", 1982.

I've also enclosed an old Pan Am Poster. Even back then mongers were flocking to these parts. No wonder the pilots were always smiling in Pan Am, doing their missionary tasks around the globe and providing tonsil massages for beautiful young women.

Moving on the floor now, babe, you're a bird of paradise.
Cherry ice cream smile, I suppose it's very nice.
With a step to your left and a flick to the right.
You catch that mirror way out west.
You know you're something special, and you look like you're the best.
Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand.
Just like that river twisting through a dusty land.

And when she shines, she really shows you all she can.
Oh, Rio, Rio dance across the Rio Grande.
I've seen you on the beach and I've seen you on TV.
Two of a billion stars, it means so much to me.
Like a birthday or a pretty view.
But then, I'm sure that you know it's just for you.
Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand.
Just like that river twisting through a dusty land.
And when she shines, she really shows you all she can.
Oh, Rio, Rio dance across the Rio Grande.
Hey now, woo, look at that.
Did she nearly run you down?
At the end of the drive, the lawmen arrive.
You make me feel alive, alive, alive.
I'll take my chance, 'cause luck is on my side or something.
I know what you're thinking.
I'll tell you something, I know what you're thinking.
Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand.
Just like that river twists across a dusty land.
And when she shines, she really shows you all she can.
Oh, Rio, Rio dance across the Rio Grande.
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand.
And I might find her if I'm looking like I can.
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land.
From mountains in the north down to the Rio Grande.

[QUOTE=Avivis;2815437]Here is my short review for the 4 days I have been to Rio during mid April 2023.

This is my 4th time going to Rio de Janeiro.

I travel quite often around the world. See my other reviews (Korea, Bogota, Berling and many more).

I will do it quick and short this time:

Staying:

I really prefer Copacabana. It is not that dangerous. At night I use Uber. It is closer to the center with Uber. Much closer than Barra de Tijuca. It has its own establishments which I like. Like Monte-Carlo, Mab's and Dolce-Vita. It is even closer to Solarium. The beach is nice (might not be the best, but this is not why I go to Rio anyways)..[/QUOTE]It looks like you learned pretty quick that ordering a girl to your room is not necessary in Rio. With all the termas and clubs to meet girls face to face, there is no reason to order takeout. Too risky IMHO. You don't know what kind of beast will knock. Getting a terma girl to come to your hotel is decent odds unless she makes a lot during the week and just wants to relax.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2817444]From Duran Duran, "Rio", 1982.

I've also enclosed an old Pan Am Poster. Even back then mongers were flocking to these parts. No wonder the pilots were always smiling in Pan Am, doing their missionary tasks around the globe and providing tonsil massages for beautiful young women.

Moving on the floor now, babe, you're a bird of paradise.
Cherry ice cream smile, I suppose it's very nice.
With a step to your left and a flick to the right.
You catch that mirror way out west.
You know you're something special, and you look like you're the best.
Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand.
Just like that river twisting through a dusty land..[/QUOTE]Can only imagine what Rio was like in the early 80's. Other than the movie BIOR, we will never know. Did they even have termas back then.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2816719]Yes, "Guide" is in the title isn't it? Well what does that mean? So a "Guide" can be a person or a thing that advises, suggests, leads, or shows the way to others, among other things. That's essentially what it means to "guide" another person. [b]It certainly doesn't mean doing all or even most of the work for somebody else [/b] ...

... Newbies need to RTFF. And if that's too much to ask, then no [B]they[/B] are the ones who are on the wrong board. [u]After all, it's the old timers who helped to build this place and who sustain it. Not a newbie.[/u] [b]Not until if and when[/b] they too achieve what it takes to become one of the contributing old timers.[/QUOTE]Well said, and much appreciated counter argument, as the "old timers" from all the mongering eras, do indeed contribute immensely to the health and long term well-being of ISG.

I'll repeat my advice to new and old, in addition to the use of the RODs, learn to use the various forms of ISG SEARCH, more. It well cut-down on the amount of reading and more often than not, provide immediate results to questions.

FWIW, remember: [B]"Search is your Friend" [/B].

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[QUOTE=Spidy;2817824]Well said, and much appreciated counter argument, as the "old timers" from all the mongering eras, do indeed contribute immensely to the health and long term well-being of ISG.

I'll repeat my advice to new and old, in addition to the use of the RODs, learn to use the various forms of ISG SEARCH, more. It well cut-down on the amount of reading and more often than not, provide immediate results to questions.

FWIW, remember: [B]"Search is your Friend" [/B].[/QUOTE]The more you send newbies to "learn and search", the higher prices you're going to pay in Scandalo.

AnalVids Mambo Perv Director Talent. Karina Rose.

This girl in the video is in Mambo Perv videos on [URL]analvids.com[/URL], who is like the best John Stagliano Buttman shooting in Brazil today.

[URL]https://www.analvids.com/watch/312614/karina_rose_picked_at_the_beach_then_fucked_by_3_big_cocks_dp_anal_slim_girl_atm_3on1_gapes_exotic_ob137[/URL]

The girls name is Karina Rose or maybe Karina Mel on xvideos.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2813619]I had Nina DePonca over yesterday for two fucks, and a deep tissue massage. Paid her 500 r which was high but she has been helping me with other things.

Nothing like a half hour blow job followed by 3 hole BBFS ass creampie to our favorite porn video, Fashionistas by Stagliano.

Then, motivated, I hopped city buses to centro, and hit:

1. 4 x4, where I was going to go in, but the ISGer in town was not on his zap so I.

2. went over to club 21, where there was only a girl I could see when I opened the door.

3. 116, where there was not a quorum of do-able girls.

4. 202, which is around the corner, and is bad ass, was packed, had a party going on, and has actual porn videos filmed there now.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video75750971/primeira_gravacao_na_boate_clube_202_no_centro_do_rio_rua_teofilo_otoni[/URL]

(credit to pv118 for the link to the videos at 202).

I did a 24 year old hottie for 100 for the half, then took a bus back to barra.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2817891]The more you send newbies to "learn and search", the higher prices you're going to pay in Scandalo.[/QUOTE]This makes no sense at all. Those who do follow the advice of the "guides" by "searching and learning" and then asking good questions will be the ones who know what the acceptable going rates are. Only those who insist on being stubborn and lazy will continue not to know and overpay, which will have no bearing on those who are in the know, and who will use that knowledge to continue to get good deals and walk away when for whatever reason they cannot. It is wilful ignorance and not a quest for knowledge that shall be punished.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2817457]Can only imagine what Rio was like in the early 80's. Other than the movie BIOR, we will never know. Did they even have termas back then.[/QUOTE]There were definitely termas in the 1980 ies. My first ever visit to Rio was in 1983. I lived in Othon Palce on Copacabana. Working girls on the beach. The first afternoon a taxi driver took me to a terma where I stayed for hours).

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2817829]This is just too salacious not to post:

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/constant-pressure-oral-sex-salacious-accusations-leveled-against-rudy-giuliani-10-million[/URL]

Apparently he had a BJ whilst on the phone to President Trump (who I am sure would approve)......[/QUOTE]This fool caused the demise of NYC P4P where I had my best mongering experiences in the 1970's, 80's and 90's mainly because I was young and live there.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2817991]This makes no sense at all. Those who do follow the advice of the "guides" by "searching and learning" and then asking good questions will be the ones who know what the acceptable going rates are. Only those who insist on being stubborn and lazy will continue not to know and overpay, which will have no bearing on those who are in the know, and who will use that knowledge to continue to get good deals and walk away when for whatever reason they cannot. It is wilful ignorance and not a quest for knowledge that shall be punished.[/QUOTE]I think he had a point. My usual was to pay a chick from Help 100 reais for long time and toward the end of the Help days no more than 150. Never had a problem with this. Many veterans on here would always report paying upwards of 300 reais. Same in Thailand. I have been giving chicks the equivalent of $30 for long time for the past 14 years. Many veterans (my friends included) are regularly paying $60 for short time. No idea why.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2817444]From Duran Duran, "Rio", 1982.

I've also enclosed an old Pan Am Poster. Even back then mongers were flocking to these parts. No wonder the pilots were always smiling in Pan Am, doing their missionary tasks around the globe and providing tonsil massages for beautiful young women.
.[/QUOTE]Great song even though I never thought it was about Rio de Janeiro, nice Pan American airline poster. I worked for Pan American Airlines in the late seventies to the eighties, flew down to Rio many many times on their 747's, I attached some of my posters plus some termas advertising from a guide book they used to hand out at the airport when you arrived. My first time in Rio I wasn't even aware there was a GDP scene there, boy was I surprised when I saw all the girls and I was very young too, good times.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2818105]Great song even though I never thought it was about Rio de Janeiro, nice Pan American airline poster. I worked for Pan American Airlines in the late seventies to the eighties, flew down to Rio many many times on their 747's, I attached some of my posters plus some termas advertising from a guide book they used to hand out at the airport when you arrived. My first time in Rio I wasn't even aware there was a GDP scene there, boy was I surprised when I saw all the girls and I was very young too, good times.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure Vagabundo fucked the one on the left.

[QUOTE=Explorer69;2817997]There were definitely termas in the 1980 ies. Copacabana. Working girls on the beach. T.[/QUOTE]Fond memories of that from 1985 - 1986. New Year's Eve on Copacabana Beach with everyone wearing white clothes carrying white candles and white flowers as an homage to the Goddess of the Sea. Termas were great but the Copacabana Beach girls were even better. Dated several including a busty, beautiful, blonde Argentinian / Italian that I am still facebook friends with after all those years. Gostoza! Carnaval was a little over the top for me, tho. Amazing women. Many freebies. Great sex.

I haven't been in Rio for ages. Would appreciate if someone can answer my two queries below:

1) Can we pay CC at the Termas? Is it wise and safe? I remember the maximum daily 'saque' from the Bancos was R1000 , or the equivalent of $200 dollars, which is nothing. I just don't want to do multiple runs to banks in order to withdraw money or even exchange it due to safety issues.

2) I read the ladies at the Termas expect gorgetas now. Is that for good service, or something little be extra as raw? I remember the Brazucas are brainwashed about condom use. Is that still the norm?

I only intend to visit the big four Termas. I haven't read anything about 65 in Centro. Is it gone?

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;2818171]I haven't been in Rio for ages. Would appreciate if someone can answer my two queries below:

1) Can we pay CC at the Termas? Is it wise and safe? I remember the maximum daily 'saque' from the Bancos was R1000 , or the equivalent of $200 dollars, which is nothing. I just don't want to do multiple runs to banks in order to withdraw money or even exchange it due to safety issues.

2) I read the ladies at the Termas expect gorgetas now. Is that for good service, or something little be extra as raw? I remember the Brazucas are brainwashed about condom use. Is that still the norm?

I only intend to visit the big four Termas. I haven't read anything about 65 in Centro. Is it gone?[/QUOTE]1) Yes, you can pay with your credit card. Just make sure you check your bank account to verify that you weren't ripped off.

2) Yes! All the GDPS would love to have a tip. However, the brasilians don't tip the checkout girl, the cleaning crew, the doorman or the girls! So why on earth would you think of handing out a tip?!

3) Yes 65 is still open.

I paid my first visit to Solarium, and it's also my first mongering experience in Brazil. Although I wasn't disappointed, I have to say it didn't live up to my expectations.

First of all, there are many good things about this place: girls may give you slutty looks to entice you, but they don't push for a session; a lot of girls have all natural bodies and good curves, which is very important to me.

However, the cons are also obvious. For example, the entire second floor where girls interact with customers is so small! When you get in the room and find a place to sit down, all the girls just look at you hoping to be picked, and it gets a little awkward after a while. More importantly, there are no stunners! Many girls have all natural bodies, but their bodies are not like smoking hot, gym model type of hot. And many of them have something done on their faces, like a nose job or botox, while those who don't are just not that pretty or a little bit old.

I will check out other top tier termas in Rio later, but my hunch is that the other places are more or less the same.

Is there any venue in Rio where I can find top talent? Do I really have to go to Scandallo in SP to find a girl that's drop dead gorgeous?

Steve 9696 is the real deal: he sent me a 242 page extravaganza of his adventures, punchy, funny and a bit like "Round the world in 80 days" by Jules Verne in 1873 in his erotic fun with practical tips and insights. It is about freedom as a male to travel and enjoy life, not being held down by degenerate harpies withholding pussy and using us waking ATM machines (known as marriage). It is about greed for life and joy the system tries to suppress, just as it does for drugs and high spirited young me. P4 P is like sampling 100's of cool little boutique restaurants with varied cuisine. Screw the brain washing and being robbed by corrupt politicians / lawyers (known as tax) with nothing in return except rude and often malevolent systems designed to remove personal agency. Our joy of travel and life is a cause of celebration, as it should be.

Rio Bob. He needs to be given a report of distinction for vintage terma flyers, literally an archeology of Rio's sybaritic treasures. Thanks Rio Bob!

This sort of reminds me of Gordon Gecko's creed about zombie companies run by people with no skin the game (majority of modern companies) and many modern, sex and love free marriages (prison):

"I am not a destroyer of companies. I am a liberator of them! The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much".

Blow jobs are the same: a moment of cut-through: overwhelming pleasure and blowing your load in the soft mouth of a pretty young woman and joy of being a man, and a free one at that.

The Rudy Giuliani's are hypocrites, as were the Jeffry Epstein supporters (heads of governments, royalty and the uber rich) : they only want freedom for themselves and fuck everyone else. But they bumped off Epstein. He knew too much about those in power. They are not even real business people, just influence peddlers or outright blackmailers. And not very discerning either. Making P4P is illegal in the USA is a terrible and stupid policy, turning men of brains means into rational ex pats. In a way it's a blessing: I'd never have invested in BR without being forced to fly internationally just to live as a human being.

[QUOTE=Gropai;2818199]Do I really have to go to Scandallo in SP to find a girl that's drop dead gorgeous?[/QUOTE]As a tourist / gringo. The short answer is yes. Scandello is much bigger in size and number of girls than any of the places in Rio so just numbers wise, you would have a higher percentage of finding what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=Gropai;2818199]I paid my first visit to Solarium, and it's also my first mongering experience in Brazil. Although I wasn't disappointed, I have to say it didn't live up to my expectations.

First of all, there are many good things about this place: girls may give you slutty looks to entice you, but they don't push for a session; a lot of girls have all natural bodies and good curves, which is very important to me.

However, the cons are also obvious. For example, the entire second floor where girls interact with customers is so small! When you get in the room and find a place to sit down, all the girls just look at you hoping to be picked, and it gets a little awkward after a while. More importantly, there are no stunners! Many girls have all natural bodies, but their bodies are not like smoking hot, gym model type of hot. And many of them have something done on their faces, like a nose job or botox, while those who don't are just not that pretty or a little bit old.

I will check out other top tier termas in Rio later, but my hunch is that the other places are more or less the same.

Is there any venue in Rio where I can find top talent? Do I really have to go to Scandallo in SP to find a girl that's drop dead gorgeous?[/QUOTE]There are no guaranteed venues in Rio for top optics like Scandallo. That said I had great luck at Monte Carlo and several other posters have confirmed. I saw a legit 9. 5 there but she insisted CBJ. Otherwise 7 and 8+s with great service.

It is small like Solarium but waaaay better vibe IMO. Solarium is like being in a doctors office. Very bright not a bar like vibe. Monte Carlo is very much like a bar. Low lighting. Very good bar service. Just a much less awkward vibe. And three of us had a great time!

Classico Beach Club / Perola Negra is better than scandallo because it has the same girls ON THE BEACH.

As for the talent, see [URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/.[/URL].

On any given day, you will find those girls at the pool at Transamerica or the other condos in barra, including classico beach club.

Just contact the girls on barravips and ask them to classico.

All of a sudden you are bobby kennedy junior here to prove vaccines are not needed and to breed another generation.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2818394]There are no guaranteed venues in Rio for top optics like Scandallo. That said I had great luck at Monte Carlo and several other posters have confirmed. I saw a legit 9. 5 there but she insisted CBJ. Otherwise 7 and 8+s with great service.

It is small like Solarium but waaaay better vibe IMO. Solarium is like being in a doctors office. Very bright not a bar like vibe. Monte Carlo is very much like a bar. Low lighting. Very good bar service. Just a much less awkward vibe. And three of us had a great time![/QUOTE]

Hello members!

After some help from this forum (Thank you everyone! My friend and I have booked ourselves with the following itinerary:

1. Sao Paulo. June 3-5.

2. Rio. June 5-10 (at the Hilton Copacabana).

3. Sao Paulo. June 10-11.

Our intentions:

1. Sao Paulo. Hit up Scandallo on Saturday night. Tour the city on Sunday and hopefully hit some chicca in the evening.

2. Rio. Land in Rio on Monday morning. Chill during the day and hit a terma (open to recommendations). My friend has arranged a girl though Seeking Arrangements. I have arranged a couple of girls through MeuPatracinio, but I am not really excited about them by their looks as of yet.

I am counting on going to any terma or clinica to get numbers from girls and take them out.

We're looking to do this almost everyday we are there in Rio. Trying to spend the day with different girls we either see through Barra Vip online or through termas / clinicas.

I have narrowed some good restaurants down, but let me know if you have any MUST DINE IN suggestions where we should take our girls.

Lastly, please let me know if any of you are in either of the two cities during the time I visit. Would love to catch up and hit some spots together!

Two Chilenan tourists went to Lapa on Saturday evening, somebody put Boa Noite Cinderela in their drinks, they passed out, got robbed, beaten and propably thrown from Mirante do Rato Molhado (a lookout point, 3 m fall). One guy died.

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2023/05/18/turistas-chilenos-sao-espancados-e-um-deles-morre-no-rio-policia-investiga-se-vitimas-foram-alvo-do-golpe-boa-noite-cinderela.ghtml[/URL]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2818394]There are no guaranteed venues in Rio for top optics like Scandallo. That said I had great luck at Monte Carlo and several other posters have confirmed. I saw a legit 9. 5 there but she insisted CBJ. Otherwise 7 and 8+s with great service.

It is small like Solarium but waaaay better vibe IMO. Solarium is like being in a doctors office. Very bright not a bar like vibe. Monte Carlo is very much like a bar. Low lighting. Very good bar service. Just a much less awkward vibe. And three of us had a great time![/QUOTE]I went to both and I have to agree MC is much better than Solarium. It is slightly cheaper but better quality girls, and better than 4 x4 for a mile. I guess because the type of girls I prefer are more available at MC than 4 x4.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2815088]You only need one or two as good as 4 x4 at 150 r.

Come at 18 h before it gets packed.

Super hot mulatta as good or better than any at 4 x4.

Wadpho said he would write a report.[/QUOTE]Where are these 2 spots, 116 and 202. Also location of Darkroom. BTW, I tried reaching you on WhatsApp and a private message on here, to let you know, am in town.

I am looking for airline tickets from Washington DC to Brasil (still undecided between Rio or Sampa) next week. Due to mobility issues, I can only travel business class.

Fares:

IAD to GIG with one stop in GRU =$2750 RT (cheapest I even seen!

IAD to GRU, direct, same flight as above:$15,000 RT!

Who green lights these fares? This is so ridiculous! I am sure someone would say to buy the flight to Rio then depart in SP. Issue is the airline (United) would cancel the rest of the ticket if you don't continue the trip.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;2818824]I am looking for airline tickets from Washington DC to Brasil (still undecided between Rio or Sampa) next week. Due to mobility issues, I can only travel business class.
IAD to GIG with one stop in GRU =$2750 RT (cheapest I even seen!

IAD to GRU, direct, same flight as above:$15,000 RT!

Who green lights these fares? This is so ridiculous! I am sure someone would say to buy the flight to Rio then depart in SP. Issue is the airline (United) would .[/QUOTE]It's been like this for a while now. Welcome to the new normal. As a 1 k with United, I've been buying one-ways only, and using Plus Points. Just keep changeing dates until you get the upgrade. Or else pony up. At least you'll get the miles and keep your status.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;2818824]I am looking for airline tickets from Washington DC to Brasil (still undecided between Rio or Sampa) next week. Due to mobility issues, I can only travel business class.

Fares:

IAD to GIG with one stop in GRU =$2750 RT (cheapest I even seen!

IAD to GRU, direct, same flight as above:$15,000 RT!

Who green lights these fares? This is so ridiculous! I am sure someone would say to buy the flight to Rio then depart in SP. Issue is the airline (United) would cancel the rest of the ticket if you don't continue the trip.[/QUOTE]Try United plus Azul (1 or 2 stops) to SDU airport.

[QUOTE=Questner;2818882]Try United plus Azul (1 or 2 stops) to SDU airport.[/QUOTE]I'm actually considering a flight to Rio using United / Azul (with stops in ORD and GRU). Pretty decent price. Is a 2 hour layover in GRU long enough to get through customs and security to make that next flight to Rio? Should be, but. LOL.

Also, in everyone's experience, those long ass flights from US to Brazil, do they generally run on time, arrive early, etc? Seems like with a 9 or 10 hour flight, there is ample time to arrive earlier than expected. Debating because if I arrive at the airport at 9 am, might reserve my Airbnb in Copa a day earlier so I'm not waiting around 6 hours to check in a 3 pm.

Looks like Latino victims too.

Rio is getting more dangerous.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2818605]Two Chilenan tourists went to Lapa on Saturday evening, somebody put Boa Noite Cinderela in their drinks, they passed out, got robbed, beaten and propably thrown from Mirante do Rato Molhado (a lookout point, 3 m fall). One guy died.

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2023/05/18/turistas-chilenos-sao-espancados-e-um-deles-morre-no-rio-policia-investiga-se-vitimas-foram-alvo-do-golpe-boa-noite-cinderela.ghtml[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2818996]I'm actually considering a flight to Rio using United / Azul (with stops in ORD and GRU). Pretty decent price. Is a 2 hour layover in GRU long enough to get through customs and security to make that next flight to Rio? Should be, but. LOL..[/QUOTE]2 hours is more than enough time.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2819061]Looks like Latino victims too.
Rio is getting more dangerous.[/QUOTE]Shit always happened in Rio, specially if you are careless. In Lapa there are a lot of weirdos. Two women set them up.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;2819085]2 hours is more than enough time.[/QUOTE]Definitely not more more than enought time. Can be tight. Migration, luggage, maybe do another check-in, security and boarding.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2818996] flights from US to Brazil, do they generally run on time, arrive early, etc? - might reserve my Airbnb in Copa a day earlier so I'm not waiting around 6 hours to check in a 3 pm.[/QUOTE]There's a flight tracker flightaware that you can see how often there are delays. Just checked ua845 direct from ORD and usually is on time.

Not sure your itinerary exactly but for example if you land GRU at 9:30 am, 2 HR layover and then 11:30 am flight to SDU lands around 1 pm. Getting a ride to Copa is 15-30 minutes. So probably can ask Airbnb to leave luggage or early check in at point. I would be tempted to leave luggage at SDU lockers and check out centro. But up to you.

F.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;2818824]I am looking for airline tickets from Washington DC to Brasil (still undecided between Rio or Sampa) next week. Due to mobility issues, I can only travel business class.

Fares:

IAD to GIG with one stop in GRU =$2750 RT (cheapest I even seen!

IAD to GRU, direct, same flight as above:$15,000 RT!

Who green lights these fares? This is so ridiculous! I am sure someone would say to buy the flight to Rio then depart in SP. Issue is the airline (United) would cancel the rest of the ticket if you don't continue the trip.[/QUOTE]These and other fares are greenlighted by computer algorithms, and idiotic fares like that have been a staple feature of the airline industry forever. Nothing new here, really.

As to United cancelling the rest of your trip if you depart in GRU, it won't if you buy two one-way tickets. Keep in mind, though, that you're violating the airline's contract of carriage and they can theoretically ban you from flying with them, cancel your elite status (if you have any) and confiscate your miles. Will they? No fucking way if you're not doing this habitually.

Needless to say you CAN'T check in your bags and there are small chances that things can go wrong, like they can, for example, make you check in your carry-on if the plane is full (so always be first during the boarding if you're using this trick). You also shouldn't add your frequent flyer number to this booking.

Google "hidden city flights" or skiplagging for more.

Monte Carlo.

I visited this place at around 5 pm On Thursday. I found the girls here more attractive than those at Solarium. Not only do most of them have all natural bodies, but also few of them have anything done on the faces. The girl I sessioned with told me that gringos love all natural girls, and I guess MC accommodates to gringo tourists because of its location by selecting the girls gringos prefer. Interestingly, when I mentioned 4 X4 to my girl, she frowned and said I wouldn't like it because it's filled with silicone girls.

I saw a few stunners on my way out after the session. I've decided to come back to MC just for the stunners. When I arrived, there were only a few girls, less attractive ones, and I should have held out until the hotter girls arrived. So if you want to visit this place, it might be a better idea to arrive later, at around 6:30 pm.

Centaurus.

I hesitated about going to Centaurus because of its notoriety as a clip joint with average white girls, but when I found out my apartment is only a few minutes' walk away, I decided to give it a shot. I mean, why not. And it turned out to be the most surprising part of my mongering trip so far. Everything I learned about this place is different from my personal experience.

First of all, it's not expensive. 40 minutes is 600 reais, the same as MC and slightly cheaper than Solarium. Secondly, when I visited, there were no white girls. ALL OF THE GIRLS ARE DARK-SKINNED! Morenas and mulatas only. I don't know, maybe it's Saturday and all the hot white girls are out partying. Thirdly, none of the girls were pushy. They kind of acted in the same way as girls at MC or Solarium: after you sit down, they circle around and smile at you, hoping to be picked.

Finally, I have to say that Centaurus has the best facilities of the three termas I've been to, especially the room: a really big bed in a large room where you can try all the moves, LOL.

Unfortunately, the girls at Centaurus are just not pretty enough for me, and I really don't like the vibe at the bar area: it's dead silent without even any music! I don't think I will come back to this place.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2818996]I'm actually considering a flight to Rio using United / Azul (with stops in ORD and GRU). Pretty decent price. Is a 2 hour layover in GRU long enough to get through customs and security to make that next flight to Rio? Should be, but. LOL.

Also, in everyone's experience, those long ass flights from US to Brazil, do they generally run on time, arrive early, etc? Seems like with a 9 or 10 hour flight, there is ample time to arrive earlier than expected. Debating because if I arrive at the airport at 9 am, might reserve my Airbnb in Copa a day earlier so I'm not waiting around 6 hours to check in a 3 pm.[/QUOTE]I would worry more for a tight connection in ORD when one needs to change terminals. 2 hour layover in GRU is OK. You can do a duty free and pack it in your check-in luggage before you drop it for an Azul flight.

Michelle Obama, Feira Sao Cristavao, Michelle Obama.

I found Michelle O again, and we fucked at her club.

Then went to Feira Sao Cristavao. See Sperto's post on the Feira.

It is awesome. Got numbers from a super hot negra who works at a Barraca. Not saying which one, but man, porn star quality.

Speaking of which I have to cast Michelle Obama in a porn fucking Donald Trump up the ass.

OK, so then ubered back to the club, got Michelle who my wingman rated a 8 or 8. 5.

Picked her up, and we went to Copa to the hotel, where wingman winged off into the sunset, and I got Michelle Obama back to the pad for super deep throat, and good creampie in her super hot negra pussy. Got a good massage too.

Watching Dom2.

My regular did not want to watch Dom2 as it is too violent. Which is understandable. Where she lives her Tio was shot twice by 7. 62 mm from a Para FAL, fortunately, a graze in the back, and a through and through wound in the flesh of the leg.

So with her we watched Queen Charlotte on Netflix.

So it goes.

[QUOTE=Gropai;2818199]I paid my first visit to Solarium, and it's also my first mongering experience in Brazil. Although I wasn't disappointed, I have to say it didn't live up to my expectations.

First of all, there are many good things about this place: girls may give you slutty looks to entice you, but they don't push for a session; a lot of girls have all natural bodies and good curves, which is very important to me.

However, the cons are also obvious. For example, the entire second floor where girls interact with customers is so small! When you get in the room and find a place to sit down, all the girls just look at you hoping to be picked, and it gets a little awkward after a while. More importantly, there are no stunners! Many girls have all natural bodies, but their bodies are not like smoking hot, gym model type of hot. And many of them have something done on their faces, like a nose job or botox, while those who don't are just not that pretty or a little bit old.

I will check out other top tier termas in Rio later, but my hunch is that the other places are more or less the same.

Is there any venue in Rio where I can find top talent? Do I really have to go to Scandallo in SP to find a girl that's drop dead gorgeous?[/QUOTE]A lot of clubs have a policy that restricts the girls from approaching too aggressively. This is not a bad thing either, sometimes you just want to have a drink and relax a bit without being bombarded by the girls. Be careful what you wish for hahaha.

Also some people prefer the smaller clubs. I would choose Bomboa over Scandallo for example, although I think Scandallo is the best club in the world for hobbyists.

I think you need to visit multiple termas, maybe Solarium was just not your style.

I have assumed that obviously there is plenty of strip clubs (with rooms attached) in Rio, but from what I read that doesn't seem to be the case at all.

Lately I monger mainly in Colombia, I like to hit the clubs on the weekend and enjoy seeing the girls undress, shake their assess and advertise their goods, I chat with some, dance with some and just enjoy a fiesta atmosphere on Saturday (and sometimes I just chill and watch the shows with one eye and football with the other, one can only fuck so much).

Anyway, where do international and local mongers usually go to party and have fun with WGs on Saturday evenings in Rio (since there is no strip-clubs)?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2818394]There are no guaranteed venues in Rio for top optics like Scandallo. That said I had great luck at Monte Carlo and several other posters have confirmed. I saw a legit 9. 5 there but she insisted CBJ. Otherwise 7 and 8+s with great service.

It is small like Solarium but waaaay better vibe IMO. Solarium is like being in a doctors office. Very bright not a bar like vibe. Monte Carlo is very much like a bar. Low lighting. Very good bar service. Just a much less awkward vibe. And three of us had a great time![/QUOTE]If Steve says the girls are currently hot at Monte Carlo, they are hot. Based on the women he scores, you can trust his judgment.

The caveat is that while the top clubs have been at the top a very long time the club with the best girls is fluid and of course in the eye of the beholder. It's always fun to check out a few. Also, know what hours the club is hopping. You might show up before most of the girls arrive. Show up too late and you might only see a few girls left who were passed over all night.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2819329]I have assumed that obviously there is plenty of strip clubs (with rooms attached) in Rio, but from what I read that doesn't seem to be the case at all....[/QUOTE]What you are looking for is termas. 116 and 4 x4 have stripper pole in the club.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2818451]All of a sudden you are bobby kennedy junior here to prove vaccines are not needed and to breed another generation.[/QUOTE]If you were directing this at Steve, with Steve's stable of women in various destinations he's more like John F. Kennedy.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2819378]What you are looking for is termas. 116 and 4 x4 have stripper pole in the club.[/QUOTE]Yep, they're not full-blown strip clubs with totally naked chicks in every direction but there is enough stimulus. Just know that 4 x4 is closed on Saturdays and Sundays with most others closed Sunday.

[QUOTE=ChrisH;2818705]Where are these 2 spots, 116 and 202. Also location of Darkroom. BTW, I tried reaching you on WhatsApp and a private message on here, to let you know, am in town.[/QUOTE]Look for neon light door. There are two clubs at the 116 location, 116 is the one on the left.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2818028]I think he had a point. My usual was to pay a chick from Help 100 reais for long time and toward the end of the Help days no more than 150. Never had a problem with this. Many veterans on here would always report paying upwards of 300 reais. Same in Thailand. I have been giving chicks the equivalent of $30 for long time for the past 14 years. Many veterans (my friends included) are regularly paying $60 for short time. No idea why.[/QUOTE]Towards the end of Help's days the real was very strong. The last three years of Help Disco 150 reals for all night would have been $60 and $90. I know because I was there several times during that time. Even 100 reals was much more than $30 during 2006-2009.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2818614]I went to both and I have to agree MC is much better than Solarium. It is slightly cheaper but better quality girls, and better than 4 x4 for a mile. I guess because the type of girls I prefer are more available at MC than 4 x4.[/QUOTE]What would you guys say the best day (s) and time to visit Monte Carlo?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2819382]Look for neon light door. There are two clubs at the 116 location, 116 is the one on the left.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nounce. What's the street name as well. Obrigado.

She is Karina Mello on GP Arena.

Please see:

[URL]https://www.gparena.net/social-feed-user.php?id=16906[/URL]#gsc. Tab=0.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2817990]AnalVids Mambo Perv Director Talent. Karina Rose.

This girl in the video is in Mambo Perv videos on [URL]analvids.com[/URL], who is like the best John Stagliano Buttman shooting in Brazil today.

[URL]https://www.analvids.com/watch/312614/karina_rose_picked_at_the_beach_then_fucked_by_3_big_cocks_dp_anal_slim_girl_atm_3on1_gapes_exotic_ob137[/URL]

The girls name is Karina Rose or maybe Karina Mel on xvideos.[/QUOTE]

Rua the Conceição, 116.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2819794]Thanks Nounce. What's the street name as well. Obrigado.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2819794]Thanks Nounce. What's the street name as well. Obrigado.[/QUOTE]You can find [b]DETRAN-RJ[/b] that is next to Uruguaiana metro station on google map. When you are standing at that address, it is across the street [b]Av. Pres. Vargas[/b].

[QUOTE=Nounce;2819378]What you are looking for is termas. 116 and 4 x4 have stripper pole in the club.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WyattEarp;2819381]Yep, they're not full-blown strip clubs with totally naked chicks in every direction but there is enough stimulus. Just know that 4 x4 is closed on Saturdays and Sundays with most others closed Sunday.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=Evac305;2819438]What would you guys say the best day (s) and time to visit Monte Carlo?[/QUOTE]There's no hard and fast rule. Since it's not really a night club, any day of the week is as good as any other. Some girls might not work on Saturdays, but that's just a guess. Closed Sunday.

We typically go there between 3 and 5 pm. If it's raining or we have nothing else to do, we show up earlier knowing we're going to hang out for awhile. You will likely have your pick of the girls between 3 pm (opening time) and 4 pm. Some of our guys take one girl to the rooms early and another later.

I don't recommend getting there too late. As I said even though it's open until 2:00 am, it is not a night club and it's not a FKK. It's relatively small. You can drink, snack and lounge for a few hours. However, I don't think I have ever been there past 9:00-10:00 pm.

You can also use the lounging time to soak up some girl's phone numbers for later. I prefer to be discreet and not be obvious about it.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2818605]Two Chilenan tourists went to Lapa on Saturday evening, somebody put Boa Noite Cinderela in their drinks, they passed out, got robbed, beaten and propably thrown from Mirante do Rato Molhado (a lookout point, 3 m fall). One guy died.

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2023/05/18/turistas-chilenos-sao-espancados-e-um-deles-morre-no-rio-policia-investiga-se-vitimas-foram-alvo-do-golpe-boa-noite-cinderela.ghtml[/URL][/QUOTE]Two women arrested suspected of being involved in the robbery and killing. Two mulatas (one with silicon tits) with false hair, typical vagabundas.

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2023/05/22/policia-prende-suspeitas-da-morte-de-turista-chileno-no-rio.ghtml[/URL]

[QUOTE=Evac305;2819438]What would you guys say the best day (s) and time to visit Monte Carlo?[/QUOTE]I was there on Fri / Sat. Both days it was best to go when they open. Like 3 or 4 Pm. I think the girls must be required to be there then because there was a full lineup and ZERO guys at 3:15. Maybe a couple guys at 4.

This is an important question because after I finished a room Sat night I came back down at 10 PM and there were ZERO GIRLS there. If I didn't know better I would have concluded it's a dead club. But instead I knew they were all just taken. So go early to get the pick of the litter.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2819061]Looks like Latino victims too.

Rio is getting more dangerous.[/QUOTE]If you were to look at the last hours of their life you'd probably see so many errors in their decision making you'd be surprised they made it this far in life.

I went to Lapa with a pale british friend and an indian friend. I'm hispanic, which is latino but not the same as brazilian as brazilians are latinos but not hispanics. There is a difference that is easily spotted by the locals so I keep an eye wide open as I blend in but not really.

We went to a bunch of clubs around the place and didn't have any issues. You watch your drink at all times, keep your head on a swivel and look out for your buddy and read the room.

I'd bet these guys chatted this girls up, got some drinks, got up and left to use the bathroom while leaving their drinks behind and got drugged that way.

Real knuckle head stuff.

Some guy here in miami got over $600 K of his stuff stolen the same way.

[URL]https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/05/17/do-you-know-this-woman-miami-police-think-she-drugged-robbed-man-of-600k-in-rolexes-jewelry/[/URL]

Happens like twice a month in miami plus the drive by shootings during spring break and busy seasons on ocean drive which is like our copacabana beach.

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/1-dead-1-hurt-shooting-miami-beach-spring-97959481[/URL]

Anyways happens all over the world since any moron can get a passport.

Also fuck miami this place is a shit hole.

There's a lot to say here. Why does someone have 600 k in jewelry and why would he put it in a safe to tell people it's there. There are many places to hide stuff where no guest will ever find it. Especially a house. I always thought having a safe in your house is so dumb. You are just advertising you have valuables.

I understand why celebrities are so guarded. How do they trust anyone when everyone is looking at you like a mark. Tiger woods is getting sued by ex girlfriend for 30 million because she deserves the same lifestyle. She gets free rent for a year and now thinks she should get it for life. Do these rich people not have side places where they bring girls over. If you can afford 600 k in jewelry, you can afford a nice 1 bedroom where you bring girls from clubs and keep your main house separate. I don't know if you guys remember Steve McNair. He had a wife and kids and a huge house. He was cheating on his wife with multiple girls that he brought to his other condo that he rented as his mancave. For some reason he played mind games with one and told her he would leave his wife for her. Few months later he broke up with her and she ended up shooting him and herself. He was smart enough to have a side place but not smart by leading these gold diggers on. I guess that's why I haven't had an issue after 20 years of mongering. I assume everyone is trying to rob me And never tell a girl I love them.

Thanks very useful feedback in many many ways.

My impression is rio is getting more violent if possible.

One of my regulars on way back to her house in caixis had 200 r stolen (glad I was so cheap so it was not more).

Another of my regulars as I mentioned had her tio (uncle) shot twice by a para FAL (a police weapon in 7. 62 mm x 51 NATO), twice, but not fatally, graze in the back, through and through in leg.

So in miami / west palm beach, how much would equivalent brazilian plussy that you can get in rio centro prives cost? If possible at all in little havana, or a little rio or in the strip club after a bus ride to key west cost? Asking for a friend thinking of moving to Florida to do some medical work and buy an investment property to pay for lifestyle in rio.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2820803]If you were to look at the last hours of their life you'd probably see so many errors in their decision making you'd be surprised they made it this far in life.
I went to Lapa with a pale british friend and an indian friend. I'm hispanic, which is latino but not the same as brazilian as brazilians are latinos but not hispanics. There is a difference that is easily spotted by the locals so I keep an eye wide open as I blend in but not really.

We went to a bunch of clubs around the place and didn't have any issues. You watch your drink at all times, keep your head on a swivel and look out for your buddy and read the room.

I'd bet these guys chatted this girls up, got some drinks, got up and left to use the bathroom while leaving their drinks behind and got drugged that way.

Real knuckle head stuff.

Some guy here in miami got over $600 K of his stuff stolen the same way.

[URL]https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/05/17/do-you-know-this-woman-miami-police-think-she-drugged-robbed-man-of-600k-in-rolexes-jewelry/[/URL]

Happens like twice a month in miami plus the drive by shootings during spring break and busy seasons on ocean drive which is like our copacabana beach.

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/1-dead-1-hurt-shooting-miami-beach-spring-97959481[/URL]

Anyways happens all over the world since any moron can get a passport.

Also fuck miami this place is a shit hole.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2820914]So in miami / west palm beach, how much would equivalent brazilian plussy that you can get in rio centro prives cost? If possible at all in little havana, or a little rio or in the strip club after a bus ride to key west cost? Asking for a friend thinking of moving to Florida to do some medical work and buy an investment property to pay for lifestyle in rio.[/QUOTE]A quickie at a strip club close to the Miami Airport would probably cost $200-$250 + another $50+tip for the semi-private room, (the tip is for security guys, so that they don't bother you). So we are looking at about $300 a pop, give or take. All covered, of course.

If your friend needs help buying an investment property, shoot me a message.

I went to 4 x4 twice and had a lot of fun.

The first night I made my visit, I never thought of picking a girl at this spot and I just came here to check it off my list. To my surprise, the girls were very attractive and very much to my liking. I was prepared to see ugly women with fake tits and ass everywhere, but about 80% of girls were all natural.

I went again this afternoon and sessioned with two girls. Chose the 1 hour suite with the first girl. After round 1, we caressed each other and I got hard again. She suddenly stripped off her bikinis, spread her legs and gave me a dirty look. I got her point and put on another condom. Round 2 began!

After the two intensive rounds with her, I went back to the bar and had a beer. I just wanted to chill out a while and view all the eye candy, but a very hot girl with the best ass I've seen so far in Brazil came in and stood right in front of me. I already had two shots and I wasn't sure if I could manage a third one. But man, she was so hot! And the guy sitting right across was also staring at her ass with eyes wide open! I knew I couldn't lose her so I snatched her up right away. Guess what? The moment I touched her ass, I got hard again. I said 'vamos" to her ears and off we went to the cabine for a 30-minute fun.

4 x4 has the largest number of girls and clients. And girls are more attractive IMO. At least equally attractive as those at MC. You might worry that it's hard to get the girl you like with so many guys competing with you, but surprisingly a lot of them are just sitting around, chatting, drinking and looking. So if you have a very clear goal of having sex like I do, and you make your move quickly, you are very likely to end up with someone you like.

Man, I have to say, Brazilian women are wonderful! The best creatures God has ever created. They have the best bodies and the best attitudes in bed. When I was mongering in Bangkok, women there were terrible. 5 minutes into sex, they started complaining and asking me when I could come. And here in Brazil, women can go 20 or 30 minutes nonstop without complaining, twerking their asses, moving their bodies, doing everything they can to squeeze the last drop of juice out of you, if you know what I mean. What's more? They even seem to really enjoy it so much that sometimes I feel like they should be the ones paying me for sex, LOL. And unlike the Colombian girls, they never ask you for propina after sex.

I don't know about the future, but I'll probably spend all my mongering money on Brazilian women only from this moment on.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2820914]Thanks very useful feedback in many many ways.

My impression is rio is getting more violent if possible.

One of my regulars on way back to her house in caixis had 200 r stolen (glad I was so cheap so it was not more).

Another of my regulars as I mentioned had her tio (uncle) shot twice by a para FAL (a police weapon in 7. 62 mm x 51 NATO), twice, but not fatally, graze in the back, through and through in leg.

So in miami / west palm beach, how much would equivalent brazilian plussy that you can get in rio centro prives cost? If possible at all in little havana, or a little rio or in the strip club after a bus ride to key west cost? Asking for a friend thinking of moving to Florida to do some medical work and buy an investment property to pay for lifestyle in rio.[/QUOTE]Not worth the price of admission.

I don't shit where I sleep.

Florida police and sheriff don't play and have monthly raids and stings all over the state.

They post it on their facebook page all the time.

Robert Kraft, owner of the NE Patriots was caught back a few years in South Florida so best believe they'll catch your ass.

Tootsie in miami seems to be the go to for $300 but again everything covered and not Brazil level.

Seeking seems to be the move since there are tons of girls coming to MIA to have a weekend trip and it's not illegal and you can easily just spend the money on having a good time but that's a whole conversation.

Just not worth it.

With MIA Airport you have direct flights to RJ or you could go to DR, MTL or Colombia or a 4 day weekend.

True Floridians know Miami is a shithole and avoid it as much as possible.

Good investment but I wouldn't live there with all the OF girls and Sugar Babies running around acting like their Pussy is Fort Knox.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2820871]There's a lot to say here. Why does someone have 600 k in jewelry and why would he put it in a safe to tell people it's there. There are many places to hide stuff where no guest will ever find it. Especially a house. I always thought having a safe in your house is so dumb. You are just advertising you have valuables.

I understand why celebrities are so guarded. How do they trust anyone when everyone is looking at you like a mark. Tiger woods is getting sued by ex girlfriend for 30 million because she deserves the same lifestyle. She gets free rent for a year and now thinks she should get it for life. Do these rich people not have side places where they bring girls over. If you can afford 600 k in jewelry, you can afford a nice 1 bedroom where you bring girls from clubs and keep your main house separate. I don't know if you guys remember Steve McNair. He had a wife and kids and a huge house. He was cheating on his wife with multiple girls that he brought to his other condo that he rented as his mancave. For some reason he played mind games with one and told her he would leave his wife for her. Few months later he broke up with her and she ended up shooting him and herself. He was smart enough to have a side place but not smart by leading these gold diggers on. I guess that's why I haven't had an issue after 20 years of mongering. I assume everyone is trying to rob me And never tell a girl I love them.[/QUOTE]Because MIA attracts High Bank account numbers and Low IQ numbers.

The city itself named their stadium after FTX! Doesn't take a genius to know that was a dumb idea.

They should just take BangBros offer and have them take the naming rights. Suits the real miami vibes.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bang-bros-offers-miami-heat-10-million-stadium-naming-rights-after-ftx-collapse[/URL]

MIA is just GTA Online IRL.

First I thought there was something wrong, the Rio de Janeiro, Colombia and Miami forum were merged together into one forum.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2820871] For some reason he played mind games with one and told her he would leave his wife for her. Few months later he broke up with her and she ended up shooting him and herself. He was smart enough to have a side place but not smart by leading these gold diggers on. I guess that's why I haven't had an issue after 20 years of mongering. I assume everyone is trying to rob me And never tell a girl I love them.[/QUOTE]That sounds like a woman madly in love, mentally disturbed, or most probably both, rather than a gold digger. A woman like this is 100 times more dangerous than a gold digger, and, you're right, it wasn't smart for him to lead her on.

This story reminds me of a very old François Truffaut movie "The Girl Next Door" with Depardieu.

[QUOTE=Evac305;2819438]What would you guys say the best day (s) and time to visit Monte Carlo?[/QUOTE]I would think the middle of the week, although Fridays might be ok. Someone recommended Centaurus to me today and confirmed more negatives about Solarium. Mabs might be worth a meetup.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2821039]Not worth the price of admission.

I don't shit where I sleep.

Florida police and sheriff don't play and have monthly raids and stings all over the state.

They post it on their facebook page all the time.

Robert Kraft, owner of the NE Patriots was caught back a few years in South Florida so best believe they'll catch your ass.

Tootsie in miami seems to be the go to for $300 but again everything covered and not Brazil level.

Seeking seems to be the move since there are tons of girls coming to MIA to have a weekend trip and it's not illegal and you can easily just spend the money on having a good time but that's a whole conversation.

Just not worth it.

With MIA Airport you have direct flights to RJ or you could go to DR, MTL or Colombia or a 4 day weekend.

True Floridians know Miami is a shithole and avoid it as much as possible.

Good investment but I wouldn't live there with all the OF girls and Sugar Babies running around acting like their Pussy is Fort Knox.[/QUOTE]When it comes to this sport Florida is one uptight, tight-assed state and its been that way for many decades. Not worth it! If you want to pay for play in the States there are friendlier, safer places to do so. They'll "sting" your ass in Florida.

Xpartan. Great post and sage advice. The movie is from 1981, : La Femme the' seet aka The Woman Next Door. We do have to tread carefully with ladies and not lead them on unless serious about them, led by big brain ans asking "can I see myself with this person in 5 years, trust them and have them part of my friends and family" ? Some groups may be more passionate in bed but are also passionately vengeful: brothers, boyfriends, pimps, spiking drinks, blackmail and worse can happen. The rose has a thorn. In America there is an entire industry of licensed professional blackmailers who put nothing down except ink on paper. We call them lawyers. They always target the wealthy for their payoff. Just like con men, they shrewdly qualify the pay off, size up vulnerability and go after their mark. And then there are made up sexual assault claims that drag in police they combine with money making scams called lawsuits as added state sponsored extortion played out in things called courts staffed by other scammers in black dressing gowns called judges. In the end it comes down to a zero sum game of winner takes all in cash. Just ask Johnny Depp who fought off and unusually won such a contest.

This crime ring not is not just tolerated but actually celebrated as a ladder for the poor but ambitious wannabes by the transfer of unearned wealth by grasping, thieving and lying scumbags that describes 95% (or more) attorneys that have as much loyalty as an unpaid mercenary. And as pointed out here, law enforcement stings in places like Florida are used to monetize local police franchises and their smug but artificial sense of psychic righteousness. No that long ago (in FL) they covertly installed a video and filmed a jack shack replete with facial recognition of mongers for a mass shake down.

Working girls are far more honest and useful to society. Treat them nicely, be a gentlemen and you will be repaid with superior service. Oh yeah: keep a separate pad for screening and do not store portable wealth or exhibit wealth generally. That's good advice generally. The squeeze in USA is not worth the juice, costly, high risk, low quality. Brazil is wonderful on many fronts including IMHO that its people are not as mercenary and conniving as the USA and its women high value for money, passionate and beautiful. This is where the trade is at.

If I were to go to Rio for a month, and use Seeking for a majority of my meetups, since I think I would get bored with the termas for a whole month, what kind of experience can I expect. Will it be a pain with a whole bunch of flakes, and what can I expect to pay for a few hours on the town. I wouldn't want to pay more than about 600 r for a few hours. Has anyone used seeking almost exclusively in Rio. I'm not talking about any other countries. Specifically Rio. Do the girls look similar to their pictures?

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2821303]

Working girls are far more honest and useful to society. Treat them nicely, be a gentlemen and you will be repaid with superior service. Oh yeah: keep a separate pad for screening and do not store portable wealth or exhibit wealth generally. That's good advice generally. The squeeze in USA is not worth the juice, costly, high risk, low quality. Brazil is wonderful on many fronts including IMHO that its people are not as mercenary and conniving as the USA and its women high value for money, passionate and beautiful. This is where the trade is at.[/QUOTE]Yep. This militant societal attitude toward commercial sex is sad, dumb and wasteful. Here in Bklyn they've shut down most Chinese parlors, and the ones that are still standing aren't worth the price of admission in my experience. By the way, here they go after the girls, rather than men, but with tragic results sometimes.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2017/11/26/prostitute-dies-trying-to-evade-cops-by-jumping-out-of-window[/URL]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2821355]If I were to go to Rio for a month, and use Seeking for a majority of my meetups, since I think I would get bored with the termas for a whole month, what kind of experience can I expect. Will it be a pain with a whole bunch of flakes, and what can I expect to pay for a few hours on the town. I wouldn't want to pay more than about 600 r for a few hours. Has anyone used seeking almost exclusively in Rio. I'm not talking about any other countries. Specifically Rio. Do the girls look similar to their pictures?[/QUOTE]I was just in Rio for two months and used Seeking in addition to the termas, prives and [URL]photoaccompanhantes.com[/URL]. There aren't many girls on seeking but met up with a few. Other cities are much better for Seeking. When in Rio I think termas are your best bet.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2821362]Yep. This militant societal attitude toward commercial sex is sad, dumb and wasteful. Here in Bklyn they've shut down most Chinese parlors, and the ones that are still standing aren't worth the price of admission in my experience. By the way, here they go after the girls, rather than men, but with tragic results sometimes.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2017/11/26/prostitute-dies-trying-to-evade-cops-by-jumping-out-of-window[/URL][/QUOTE]Truth and fiction: [URL]https://youtu.be/gsDz-7K8pG8[/URL].

Yeah, it makes no sense, Germany & Netherlands regulate it and elsewhere it exists as a normal and natural part of society, because having sex is normal for living organisms. I've never understood why a semi-automatic with near weekly mass murders is OK but getting some pussy is not. Then President Trump brought in FOSTA-SESTA on the theory that this would remove an overpowering biological imperative and need for human touch and social interaction. I suppose USA is still ruled from the grave by long dead puritans and flimsy invocations of biblical authority and now the claim 100% of providers are trafficked. This is in stark contrast to criminalization of gay men and now the LGBT/alphabet near public celebration of what not ago was also subject to entrapment and persecution.

Maybe mongers should come and celebrate. We love women and are greedy for joy and life. What's so bad about working hard, making money, being useful in society and having some fun and sexual freedom ? And not being ruled by the phony morality of others and having the courage of our selves, credit cards and passport in hand for the next fun adventure and camaraderie of like minded me enjoying life and not skulking around ?

What is clear is the number of lives ruined by LE stings along with income and taxation and the enabling of police corruption: a classic case of unintended consequences. That would include planes traveling internationally with men taking their money and spending elsewhere than the USA economy, and many relocating with further loss of economic investment, spending and the multiplier effect. Then there is the psychological harm from stigma and shaming. And unnecessary risk to women who are unable to have conventional workplace safety. The feminists really must hate their sisters, and so do the sclerotic old white congress critters who enable it. Shame on them.

As we now know, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and others tolerated J. Epstein (financier, schemer, deal maker, pimp and professional blackmailer) who really did abuse underage women and even had a jet (the Lolita Express) and offshore island. His guests included royalty, presidents and other elites covertly taped, as we just learned about Bill Gates and his divorce and disgrace despite his many outstanding contributions to society. So much hypocrisy and selective enforcement and needless human suffering from this stupidity. And now Rudy Giuliani, so called clean skin Mayor, no doubt covertly partaking and claiming moral superiority whist having the NYPD bust the less wealthy and politically protected.

And don't even start me on the legal pushing of opioids and other harmful drugs on national TV, alcohol and so on whilst demonizing "drugs". Many would say the war on drugs was a war on black people, as opposed to their mostly white (affluent) customers. As we all know, the mongers on this board are all over the shop, Asian, white, middle eastern, Indian, African descent and everything in between. And we have fun and cooperate on our quest for fun and life. As it should be. We are all brothers and color blind and get along really well with a bit of easy to get, hassle free pussy and general happiness that comes with an enlightened society, especially in Brazil where people have to be tolerant and get along.

Obrigado Brasil pela sociedade esclarecida e pelas belas mulheres!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2821426]Truth and fiction: [URL]https://youtu.be/gsDz-7K8pG8[/URL].[/QUOTE]Well, yes, it's a risky business, but the authorities aren't doing it for the safety of sex workers. They are fighting prostitution to keep their electorate (read: housewives) happy. If they were really concerned with the safety of sex workers, smart regulations always work better than restrictions.

And BTW, The Deuce is amazing! Highly recommended to anyone who's lived in the woods up until now and hasn't seen it yet.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;2818824]I am looking for airline tickets from Washington DC to Brasil (still undecided between Rio or Sampa) next week. Due to mobility issues, I can only travel business class.

Fares:

IAD to GIG with one stop in GRU =$2750 RT (cheapest I even seen!

IAD to GRU, direct, same flight as above:$15,000 RT!

Who green lights these fares? This is so ridiculous! I am sure someone would say to buy the flight to Rio then depart in SP. Issue is the airline (United) would cancel the rest of the ticket if you don't continue the trip.[/QUOTE]Have you checked Copa airlines? They have one stop in Panama.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2821542]......They are fighting prostitution to keep their electorate (read: housewives) happy......[/QUOTE]The housewives thing is worldwide. What's peculiar to the US is that the upper echelons is infested with perverts and deviants and these folks usually hate normal people.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2821532]Maybe mongers should come and celebrate. We love women and are greedy for joy and life. What's so bad about working hard, making money, being useful in society and having some fun and sexual freedom ? And not being ruled by the phony morality of others and having the courage of our selves, credit cards and passport in hand for the next fun adventure and camaraderie of like minded me enjoying life and not skulking around ?[/QUOTE]Great post. Couldn't agree more with everything you said.

[QUOTE=Playboy2021;2821366]I was just in Rio for two months and used Seeking in addition to the termas, prives and [URL]photoaccompanhantes.com[/URL]. There aren't many girls on seeking but met up with a few. Other cities are much better for Seeking. When in Rio I think termas are your best bet.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. For Rio I'd use the termas (400 to 700 R all in) and a few of the massage parlors (200 R on up). Best value. On Seeking I did find some gorgeous women, but most want 1200 R on up.

DC (IAD) area and NYC are served by many airlines, Copa from JFK for example (Copa also has a LAX) and both via brief stop in Panama. In addition to my earlier post on long haul, have sticky velcro pads for wool seat pad and also to attach a Samsung Tab 7/8 to the seat / TV screen in for your own movie selection, language tutorial or listening + Bose noise cancelling headphones, wired or Bluetooth 5+. I have some Bose QC35 (and spare batteries). They have built in multiple mikes that work really well, even in an 80-85 dB cruise noise level on most jets. Bring your own quality food, skip the airline garbage and if you like a series of 50 ML re-usable bottles with your favorite alcoholic beverages, such as single malts and quality Cachaa for Caipirinha (bring sugar and limes) if heading to / from Brazil. And get a prescription for a decent benzodiazepine like Temazepam.

Wine is probably not worth it, your taste buds and nose is screwed up at altitude, so stick with a robust cabernet sauvignon from the airline. The fact is that no matter how much marketing bullshit the airlines spin and lie about, their food is oversalted and your taste buds impaired. They are trying to pretend there is differentiation in food when there is very little, all of which is to justify the cost of you paying about $US150-200 an hour for a rock hard "business" class seat and crappy polyester blanket in a noisy 85 db, about 20% humidity (very uncomfortable to skin and breathing) and annoying constant audio and light interruptions. Their bullshit is self-evident with their "lie-flat", "180 degrees" and "true 180 degrees" claims. $US200 (R1000) buys roughly 4-6, one hour deluxe passionate sex escapades and any number of delicious meals and / or other benefits. Such as going into the portfolio to emit dividends over the next 30 years and has a much better NPV.

Lastly, pack Schwab or Capital One card for no ATM-bullshit and no FOREX fee nonsense. And don't forget property fitted (use a string to measure girth and length) condom made of super thin material like the Japanese brands or a mail order. Korea and Switzerland have custom made sizes and ultra thin, not cheap, about $US 5 each, but worth it. Personally I don't use them for BJ's, I enjoy a beautiful young woman's lips and warm mouth and tonsils stuffed full of my pride and joy and happy and ready to swallow. As it should be.

Imagine how much sadness could be avoided by BJ's. When I go to termas or clubs, I see a lot a lot of smiling, happy, chilled men, many great haired seniors with lovely young things on their arms grinning like a Cheshire cat. In Thailand you used to see that, as well as fat and ugly western housewives (total strangers) who had steam coming out their ears at the sight of happy guys. Why are they so misanthropic? I think the posts below about housewives and vote seeking politicians and American women being afraid of P4 P as destroying their meal ticket sounds about right. Like being forced to drive a battered 1989 Chevy clunker always breaking down, whining and needing expensive repairs. Let them have their bitterness towards men, cask wine and cats and vote for a cardboard cutout PR figure that will not change a thing (except line their own corrupt politician pocket).

Time for the sunset beach, dinner and company of a cute and radiantly happy 22 year old to keep me company. I LOVE this place. As for weather south of the equator, yeah, a chilly 70-75 f in fall.

One more thing: get a second hand UNLOCKED Pixel 4a+ phone (bands work everywhere) (or a Samsung) for about $US140 and make sure you have a paid and reputable VPN like NORD regardless of what carrier / SIM / eSim you use and buy a $US6 protective case. Also handy to have a rapid charger SAMSUNG 10,000 mAh Super Fast 25 W or similar for longer flights: don't assume airports have a power socket available.

Don't forget that Brazil has several voltages / socket formats that is a hassle for US electric toothbrushes that have brain retarded manufacturer regional voltages. Make sure the voltage is right (don't assume) and you have a few local adapters and power boards or universal voltage toothbrush. Girls deserve and like good dental hygiene if you are kissing them, very important, otherwise a session can be ruined. I have spare disposable brushes and mouthwash for my harem. I train them (singular or plural) to brush and gargle before I wake up so I get a nice peppermint kiss and tender, feminine treatment of any stiffness and swelling upon my waking up.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2821532]Yeah, it makes no sense, Germany & Netherlands regulate it and elsewhere it exists as a normal and natural part of society, because having sex is normal for living organisms. I've never understood why a semi-automatic with near weekly mass murders is OK but getting some pussy is not. Then President Trump brought in FOSTA-SESTA on the theory that this would remove an overpowering biological imperative and need for human touch and social interaction. I suppose USA is still ruled from the grave by long dead puritans and flimsy invocations of biblical authority and now the claim 100% of providers are trafficked. This is in stark contrast to criminalization of gay men and now the LGBT/alphabet near public celebration of what not ago was also subject to entrapment and persecution.

Maybe mongers should come and celebrate. We love women and are greedy for joy and life. What's so bad about working hard, making money, being useful in society and having some fun and sexual freedom ? And not being ruled by the phony morality of others and having the courage of our selves, credit cards and passport in hand for the next fun adventure and camaraderie of like minded me enjoying life and not skulking around ?

What is clear is the number of lives ruined by LE stings along with income and taxation and the enabling of police corruption: a classic case of unintended consequences. That would include planes traveling internationally with men taking their money and spending elsewhere than the USA economy, and many relocating with further loss of economic investment, spending and the multiplier effect. Then there is the psychological harm from stigma and shaming. And unnecessary risk to women who are unable to have conventional workplace safety. The feminists really must hate their sisters, and so do the sclerotic old white congress critters who enable it. Shame on them.

As we now know, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and others tolerated J. Epstein (financier, schemer, deal maker, pimp and professional blackmailer) who really did abuse underage women and even had a jet (the Lolita Express) and offshore island. His guests included royalty, presidents and other elites covertly taped, as we just learned about Bill Gates and his divorce and disgrace despite his many outstanding contributions to society. So much hypocrisy and selective enforcement and needless human suffering from this stupidity. And now Rudy Giuliani, so called clean skin Mayor, no doubt covertly partaking and claiming moral superiority whist having the NYPD bust the less wealthy and politically protected.

And don't even start me on the legal pushing of opioids and other harmful drugs on national TV, alcohol and so on whilst demonizing "drugs". Many would say the war on drugs was a war on black people, as opposed to their mostly white (affluent) customers. As we all know, the mongers on this board are all over the shop, Asian, white, middle eastern, Indian, African descent and everything in between. And we have fun and cooperate on our quest for fun and life. As it should be. We are all brothers and color blind and get along really well with a bit of easy to get, hassle free pussy and general happiness that comes with an enlightened society, especially in Brazil where people have to be tolerant and get along.

Obrigado Brasil pela sociedade esclarecida e pelas belas mulheres![/QUOTE]What is overlooked by many Americans, so deeply ignoranted they can't see the matrix they live in, is just how influentual the Puritans and Quakers were on American cultural development. Anglo Protestantism has a particular hue of Feminism injected, Henry VIII's legacy perhaps. The same factors are also responsible for why the US is the only over-achiever of all the post-Colonial New Wolrd states. We never had a chance.

Went to 4 x4 Monday. Not my first time. 60 to the door. Prior to coming messaged them on Zap and buried within the description I later found the following text which roughly translates as "Minimum consumption of the house (100.00 per person)". Is this what it sounds like? I suppose ill find out since I'm probably not going to take anything here.

[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2821881]What is overlooked by many Americans, so deeply ignoranted they can't see the matrix they live in, is just how influentual the Puritans and Quakers were on American cultural development. Anglo Protestantism has a particular hue of Feminism injected, Henry VIII's legacy perhaps. The same factors are also responsible for why the US is the only over-achiever of all the post-Colonial New Wolrd states. We never had a chance.

Went to 4 x4 Monday. Not my first time. 60 to the door. Prior to coming messaged them on Zap and buried within the description I later found the following text which roughly translates as "Minimum consumption of the house (100.00 per person)". Is this what it sounds like? I suppose ill find out since I'm probably not going to take anything here.[/QUOTE]Visiting several times in May and did not notice the minimum consumption. Took two girls, bought 5 drinks and actually checked my bill via calculator between each girl LOL. Mostly to make sure I had enough cash on hand to cover the bill.

The bartenders did keep asking me for tips by writing the word TIP on a napkin. That was a little annoying.

[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2822033]Visiting several times in May and did not notice the minimum consumption. Took two girls, bought 5 drinks and actually checked my bill via calculator between each girl LOL. Mostly to make sure I had enough cash on hand to cover the bill.

The bartenders did keep asking me for tips by writing the word TIP on a napkin. That was a little annoying.[/QUOTE]An increasing number of resturantes in Brasil are now including a 10-15% "Service" fee on bills. They only charged me 60 when I decided to bail. The only thing I'll get there is water if I'm dehydrated. I noticed a lot of girls there are learning english now, good for noobs / Meditards but I think a negative development, with English comes poor / lazy service. SP night scene already infested with GPS. I don't know what the Rio night scene is going to do when papa Lula shuts the gringo door this fall.

[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2822120]An increasing number of resturantes in Brasil are now including a 10-15% "Service" fee on bills.[/QUOTE]In Brazil it's standard for restaurants to charge 10% taxa de serviço, unless it's selfservice.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;2818824]I am looking for airline tickets from Washington DC to Brasil (still undecided between Rio or Sampa) next week. Due to mobility issues, I can only travel business class.

Fares:

IAD to GIG with one stop in GRU =$2750 RT (cheapest I even seen!

IAD to GRU, direct, same flight as above:$15,000 RT!

Who green lights these fares? This is so ridiculous! I am sure someone would say to buy the flight to Rio then depart in SP. Issue is the airline (United) would cancel the rest of the ticket if you don't continue the trip.[/QUOTE]AVIANCA.

IAD (AV 247) to BOG (AV 261) to GIG. 0620 arrival.

IAD (AV 247) to BOG (AV 85) to GRU. 0600 arrival. Regional flight on GOL or LATAM to SDU or GIG. Earliest direct flight on AZUL is 0950 to SDU, the next one is 1300.

COPA.

IAD to PTY to GIG.

IAD to PTY to GRU. Regional flight to SDU or GIG.

UA.

IAD to GRU (Use Mileage Plus miles for Award Travel on Azul into SDU, usually 9. 6 K miles).

IAD to IAH to GIG.

AA.

IAD to CLT to MIA to GIG.

IAD to CLT to MIA to GRU to GIG (via codeshare GOL).

DCA to MIA to GIG.

DCA to MIA to GRU to GIG (via codeshare GOL).

DCA to MIA to GRU to GRU.

DELTA.

IAD to ATL to GRU to GIG (via LATAM codeshare).

IAD to JFK to GRU to GIG (via LATAM codeshare).

AZUL.

FLL to VCP (Campinas, SP) to SDU.

Could somebody explain this?

I hope it is not a broad scale end to P4 P of what has been a golden era since 2020 and countless shattering orgasms to compensate deprived gringos from sex prison USA (and Nordic countries).

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2822162]Could somebody explain this? I hope it is not a broad scale end to P4 P of what has been a golden era since 2020 and countless shattering orgasms to compensate deprived gringos from sex prison USA (and Nordic countries).[/QUOTE]I surmised that he was talking about reinstatement of the requirement to have a visa. Which is hardly shutting the door. Especially if you already have one haha! Anyway, plenty of gringos managed before, and they'll do so again.

Right, because no one went to Brazil for P4 P prior to June 2019.

What exactly is a passport bro. I have been seeing this term a lot lately. Is it guys that bang hookers outside America. Is it black makes that go outside the country. Is it guys that sleep with non hookers in 3rd world countries. How long has this phrase been around and does it have a specific definition or a broad range one.

Hi everyone, I'm new to ISG but have RTFF covering the last several months. I've also done searches and have found some but not a lot of info on the possibility of gangbangs, orgies, and swinger clubs in Rio. I was wondering if there are any members that could help me with some questions:

Rio Bob, in one of his posts, mentioned that Asha and 2 a2 are a couple of swing clubs that are good. Asha's website specifically says that sex workers are not allowed. Is this generally true of swing clubs in Rio? Has anyone attended swing clubs as a single male and how was the experience?

What do you think are the best ways to find working girls open to GBs and orgies, including DP?

I'll be arriving in Rio the last week of June and staying for about 10 days. Are there any ISGers interested in joining in on a MFM, GBs, or orgies? Are there any already planned that I may join? .

Obrigado!

According to Urban Dictionary:

The "Passport Bros" [b]are men who have chosen to seek out foreign women [/b], typically from other countries, for relationships. They believe that western women have been influenced by cultural and societal pressures to behave in a certain way, and that by seeking out foreign women, they can find a more authentic, fulfilling, and harmonious relationship. This is seen as a way to restore the natural balance between masculine and feminine energy, and to avoid the "wickedness" of western women.

[QUOTE][b] ie. [/b]"Mike has been traveling to different countries for the past year and has earned himself the nickname "Passport Bros" among his friends, due to his tendency to only date foreign women."
[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Passport%20bros[/URL]

Funny how, this unbiased and bigoted definition, just about covers everyone here on ISG.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2822762]What exactly is a passport bro. I have been seeing this term a lot lately. Is it guys that bang hookers outside America. Is it black makes that go outside the country. Is it guys that sleep with non hookers in 3rd world countries. How long has this phrase been around and does it have a specific definition or a broad range one.[/QUOTE]I think it started soon after that red pill blue pill stuff. From what I have seen online the working definition would be Black American men that go overseas to fuck hookers.

It is really weird that in the videos the guys always seem to be bragging look how easy it is to get chicks here, but fail to point out the obvious of the chicks being hookers. You never see these videos of the guys saying I am bored here in such and such during the day because my girl is at work or school during these hours. You just always see them going crazy because a hooker walking the stroll or walking to the known hooker club at night gave them their whatsapp. It is like it is obvious to everyone except them that the chick is a hooker or that they do not realize everyone else also knows it is a hooker. It seems they are trying to fool themselves into believing they are doing something that they are really not.

Guys we already know it is easy to pick up hookers anywhere you go. All you need to do is bring money. When you show me a chick working on a court case after you guys have had dinner then maybe there can be a discussion.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2822762]What exactly is a passport bro. I have been seeing this term a lot lately. Is it guys that bang hookers outside America. Is it black makes that go outside the country. Is it guys that sleep with non hookers in 3rd world countries. How long has this phrase been around and does it have a specific definition or a broad range one.[/QUOTE]Just a term insecure USA girls use to insult guys who like to travel and get some action along the way. Girls can get dick within a 5 mile radius, while guys have to travel 2000 miles for some good quality clam. Dating apps and dating in general are just insufferable and the girls arent that much better. It's nice to meet girls who enjoy a nice time at the beach and a 50 BRL meal afterwards and is really appreciative of the time and attention.

But apparently I'm suppose to appreciate a girl who calls her dog her baby, likes the office on a spiritual level, has $50 K USD student debt, has no hobbies or interests and wants a decent meal that I have to pay for which isn't going to be 50 BRL.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2821532]Yeah, it makes no sense, Germany & Netherlands regulate it and elsewhere it exists as a normal and natural part of society, because having sex is normal for living organisms. I've never understood why a semi-automatic with near weekly mass murders is OK but getting some pussy is not. Then President Trump brought in FOSTA-SESTA on the theory that this would remove an overpowering biological imperative and need for human touch and social interaction. I suppose USA is still ruled from the grave by long dead puritans and flimsy invocations of biblical authority and now the claim 100% of providers are trafficked. This is in stark contrast to criminalization of gay men and now the LGBT/alphabet near public celebration of what not ago was also subject to entrapment and persecution.

Maybe mongers should come and celebrate. We love women and are greedy for joy and life. What's so bad about working hard, making money, being useful in society and having some fun and sexual freedom ? And not being ruled by the phony morality of others and having the courage of our selves, credit cards and passport in hand for the next fun adventure and camaraderie of like minded me enjoying life and not skulking around ?

What is clear is the number of lives ruined by LE stings along with income and taxation and the enabling of police corruption: a classic case of unintended consequences. That would include planes traveling internationally with men taking their money and spending elsewhere than the USA economy, and many relocating with further loss of economic investment, spending and the multiplier effect. Then there is the psychological harm from stigma and shaming. And unnecessary risk to women who are unable to have conventional workplace safety. The feminists really must hate their sisters, and so do the sclerotic old white congress critters who enable it. Shame on them.

As we now know, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and others tolerated J. Epstein (financier, schemer, deal maker, pimp and professional blackmailer) who really did abuse underage women and even had a jet (the Lolita Express) and offshore island. His guests included royalty, presidents and other elites covertly taped, as we just learned about Bill Gates and his divorce and disgrace despite his many outstanding contributions to society. So much hypocrisy and selective enforcement and needless human suffering from this stupidity. And now Rudy Giuliani, so called clean skin Mayor, no doubt covertly partaking and claiming moral superiority whist having the NYPD bust the less wealthy and politically protected.

And don't even start me on the legal pushing of opioids and other harmful drugs on national TV, alcohol and so on whilst demonizing "drugs". Many would say the war on drugs was a war on black people, as opposed to their mostly white (affluent) customers. As we all know, the mongers on this board are all over the shop, Asian, white, middle eastern, Indian, African descent and everything in between. And we have fun and cooperate on our quest for fun and life. As it should be. We are all brothers and color blind and get along really well with a bit of easy to get, hassle free pussy and general happiness that comes with an enlightened society, especially in Brazil where people have to be tolerant and get along.

Obrigado Brasil pela sociedade esclarecida e pelas belas mulheres![/QUOTE]Just to throw a counter point for fun sake's.

I do think it's beneficial for me personally to have some barriers between me and the broads aboard.

It would be like having your room, toilet and kitchen all in the same place with no walls. Eventually you're going to get some shit sprayed around (always close your toilet lid when you flush or else it's just spraying the particles all over the place) things need to be compartmentalized.

Some girls say they are single but are actually married, dating or fucking around and it's good for me to leave that mess behind instead of having it around the block. Had a buddy who had a girl stalk him and then her boyfriend waited outside of his hotel to fight him for messing with his girl. He, like most of us, don't know what's going on behind the scenes and why should we. Out of sight, out of mind. Much better than: in my face, fuck me in the ass.

OnlyFans is already wrecking havoc. Seems like guys will overpay for virtual pussy (anything over a penny is too much for me) so actual USDA Grade pussy in the US wouldn't be cheap. With beef and eggs being inflated at the moment, I don't see why clams and their eggs wouldn't be absurdly priced as well. If guys are willingly to pay $1 K a month for a picture of a pussy, imagine what they would spend for the real McCoy! And that's just the engineer's and IT guys online! Working at a few different strip clubs, you'd also have the guys who spend $5-20 K coming in for that action as well. With standard of living in the USA, just wouldn't make any sense for girls to price reasonably either. It's far easier to take a picture of the brown eye than having it poked that's for sure.

Canada's very own Montreal indie scene really shows this with girls charging something like $400 USD to $700 USD for 1 hour for their poutine. Toronto is much worse. They get taxed like 50% at the end of the day so they get DP'd daily and thus the price.

London and other Europeans places can be pretty competitive because their places are filled out with Eastern Europeans girls who's standard of living is much lower than western ones but their services aren't exactly none to write home about on average.

Brazil has that interesting magic and mix of variety, high level of service, low level standard of living and good travel that really makes it the gold standard out of places at any budget.

Even if USA made it legal it would just not be competitive / reasonable and the flights to Brazil would still continue.

Your post reminds me of my last Brazil trip and shocked at how dead some of these termas are. Relatively speaking. I was thinking why are Americans spending money on only fans and 500 an hour hookers when they can come here. It's like the secret still isn't out. Even though the internet is 25 years old. There are guys on YouTube that are scamming guys for thousands to teach them how to talk to women. There is that David bond channel where he now has a system that he promotes for 12 k to teach guys about getting women in these 3rd world countries. He sells out and has to cap it. It's amazing how easily manipulated horny guys are.

[QUOTE=Questner;2818882]Try United plus Azul (1 or 2 stops) to SDU airport.[/QUOTE]I was going to fly Azul to Recife, but the reviews of it on Skytrax put me off.

[URL]https://www.airlinequality.com/airline-reviews/azul-linhas-aereas-brasileiras/[/URL]

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2821557]Have you checked Copa airlines? They have one stop in Panama.[/QUOTE]I flew Copa Air: ORD to PTY. It was a 5. 5 HR flight. With a 90 min layover. PTY to GIG was a 7 HR flight. An hour shorter than MIA to GIG. The food was Meh.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2823178]I was going to fly Azul to Recife, but the reviews of it on Skytrax put me off.

[URL]https://www.airlinequality.com/airline-reviews/azul-linhas-aereas-brasileiras/[/URL][/QUOTE]I use Azul all the time. This person's experience reflects mine. "Domestic flight from Belo Horizonte to Brasilia on Azul. The flight was comfortable and on time. The service was friendly and offered a snack and a drink. There is nothing more that you can expect on a short domestic flight. ".

From those reviews it appears a lot of people are too needy. I have never had a problem choosing my own seat. I bring my own pillow, blanket, eye shades, water bottle full of ice, and snacks. All I need to do is sit down and put on my headphones and look at my tablet. Some people just show up and wait to be treated like baby birds.

I was a boy scout. The scout motto is Be Prepared, which I always am. Phone charger, power bank. Don't just show up and think everything that makes you comfortable will be provided. Bring your own comfort.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2823178]I was going to fly Azul to Recife, but the reviews of it on Skytrax put me off.

[URL]https://www.airlinequality.com/airline-reviews/azul-linhas-aereas-brasileiras/[/URL][/QUOTE]Azul is better than Latam and way, way better than GOL.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2823178]I was going to fly Azul to Recife, but the reviews of it on Skytrax put me off.

[URL]https://www.airlinequality.com/airline-reviews/azul-linhas-aereas-brasileiras/[/URL][/QUOTE]Often you book one ticket, say United plus Azul, or Air Canada plus Azul, same with GOL or LATAM. LATAM IMHO has some weird procedures at boarding etc. Never took GOL but read about random cancellations. Won't fly COPA because of the equipment I choose to avoid. Azul was OK, and SDU is closer to Copacabana.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2822939]Just a term insecure USA girls use to insult guys who like to travel and get some action along the way. Girls can get dick within a 5 mile radius, while guys have to travel 2000 miles for some good quality clam. ...[/QUOTE]

Yes, indeed! It's all too funny, as this generation of kids, may think they've latched onto some new fangled term, when it's all to evident, to those who've been around the block once or twice, know all too well, that "passport bros", have been around for decades, in one form or another.

I've long said this in the past (or some form of it), that traveling businessmen were the first "passport bros". Businessmen have long been doing "passport bros" since flying commercial airlines were invented; and cheating on your wife/girlfriend back-home, on a so called "business trip" with foreign women was very common place for some, and wasn't being scrutinized in an era/age where your every move was being tracked, on CCTV footage, recorded, filmed, videoed and posted for posterity, by "Instagram friends" or some random Joe Shmoe (or Jane Doe) with a cellphone camera.

But hey, when today's generation feel the need to chronicle everything on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram and Facebook, social media platforms, is it any wonder, that when the proverbial shit hits the fan, good luck with the "plausible deniability" defense, when you've just videoed, documented and posted your "shit" all over social media.

Again, the so called [b]"passport bros" is nothing new.[/b] Remember about 7 or 8 years ago, when the three (3) idiot, knucklehead English Leicester City footballers, shared/posted their "passport bros" video featuring some racist orgy bullshit in Thailand. In the video, the Thai women, with whom they were engaging in sex acts, were racially abused and made fun of using racist offensive and derogatory comments.

[b]Leicester sack three players over racist orgy on Thailand tour[/b]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/17/leicester-sack-three-players-racist-thai-orgy[/URL]

[b]Leicester City players apologise over racist orgy in Thailand[/b]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/31/leicester-city-investifation-thai-racist-abuse-allegations[/URL]

To add insult to injury, the Leicester City, football club, is owned by a Thailand billionaire, Vichi Srivaddhanaprabha and his son Aiyawatt.

So don't suffer fools, that have fallen for and have been fooled by [b]recency bias[/b], with the term "passport bros" being recently applied to one particular set of men. It has long existed (in one form or another) for men of ALL races, color, nationalities and ethnic backgrounds.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2823218]Yes, indeed! It's all too funny, as this generation of kids, may think they've latched onto some new fangled term, when it's all to evident, to those who've been around the block once or twice, know all too well, that "passport bros", have been around for decades, in one form or another.

So don't suffer fools, that have fallen for and have been fooled by [b]recency bias[/b], with the term "passport bros" being recently applied to one particular set of men. [u]It has long existed (in one form or another) for men of ALL races, color, nationalities and ethnic backgrounds.[/u][/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more! On Point!

I miss the days when we didn't have all of these stupid labels like 'incel', 'simp', 'passport bros', 'non-binary', or at least when I'd never heard of them.

Just over 4 weeks until I'll be in Rio, arriving on the 6th of July, hope to meet up with some of you.

I'm posting this video of a Swedish guy who moved to Brazil and he was drugged and robbed. He details what happened. Real nice guy with a great channel. As I said before, the reason I won't stay at an air be and be or apartment is there is no security really. If he would have stayed at a hotel they would have had to give their ID at the front desk.

He made the big mistake of having a bunch of cash in his apartment. Only take out what you need on a daily basis from the ATM. Don't leave your banking apps on your phone. You know how much is in there. No need to check it. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2YGA1Jcklg[/URL].

[QUOTE=Spidy;2823218]Yes, indeed! It's all too funny, as this generation of kids, may think they've latched onto some new fangled term, when it's all to evident, to those who've been around the block once or twice, know all too well, that "passport bros", have been around for decades, in one form or another.

I've long said this in the past (or some form of it), that traveling businessmen were the first "passport bros". Businessmen have long been doing "passport bros" since flying commercial airlines were invented; and cheating on your wife/girlfriend back-home, on a so called "business trip" with foreign women was very common place for some, and wasn't being scrutinized in an era/age where your every move was being tracked, on CCTV footage, recorded, filmed, videoed and posted for posterity, by "Instagram friends" or some random Joe Shmoe (or Jane Doe) with a cellphone camera.

But hey, when today's generation feel the need to chronicle everything on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram and Facebook, social media platforms, is it any wonder, that when the proverbial shit hits the fan, good luck with the "plausible deniability" defense, when you've just videoed, documented and posted your "shit" all over social media.

Again, the so called [b]"passport bros" is nothing new.[/b] So don't suffer fools, that have fallen for and have been fooled by [b]recency bias[/b], with the term "passport bros" being recently applied to one particular set of men. It has long existed (in one form or another) for men of ALL races, color, nationalities and ethnic backgrounds.[/QUOTE]Excellent points errr "bro" LOLOLOL! I was just talking to a buddy about this and was telling him that I was a "Passport Bro" before it was called "Passport Bros". Hell, I was a damn "Passport Baby" LMAO! It goes to the essence of who I am. And it's something that's been around as long as men have been able to travel abroad, and that's one hell of a long time. I bet even Orville and Wilbur Wright were thinking if only I can get this thing to fly higher, longer, and farther so I can get down to Brazil and get me some pretty booty hole hahaha! That's right!

Teaching women to read was the first mistake, and it was all downhill after that. The problem with American women is American men, who have turned into pussy whipped bitches.

Who in the world goes to the United States for the women?

Enuf said.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2822939]Just a term insecure USA girls use to insult guys who like to travel and get some action along the way. Girls can get dick within a 5 mile radius, while guys have to travel 2000 miles for some good quality clam. Dating apps and dating in general are just insufferable and the girls arent that much better. It's nice to meet girls who enjoy a nice time at the beach and a 50 BRL meal afterwards and is really appreciative of the time and attention.

But apparently I'm suppose to appreciate a girl who calls her dog her baby, likes the office on a spiritual level, has $50 K USD student debt, has no hobbies or interests and wants a decent meal that I have to pay for which isn't going to be 50 BRL.[/QUOTE]

Friday, Vagabundo did darkroom, one of the usual suspects, 2 pops covered, for 150, brief massage. The old Jimmy Boy technique of giving her a massage is a good one. The love you take is equal to the love you make. Good talent at Emporio. Thought to go to 4 x4, and will shortly. Somewhere I thought: this may be as close to heaven as it gets for men.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2823270]I'm posting this video of a Swedish guy who moved to Brazil and he was drugged and robbed. He details what happened. Real nice guy with a great channel. As I said before, the reason I won't stay at an air be and be or apartment is there is no security really. If he would have stayed at a hotel they would have had to give their ID at the front desk.

He made the big mistake of having a bunch of cash in his apartment. Only take out what you need on a daily basis from the ATM. Don't leave your banking apps on your phone. You know how much is in there. No need to check it. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2YGA1Jcklg[/URL].[/QUOTE]Not trying to refute your point that we should stay alert. You are absolutely right that we should take precautions. It's just that I know this youtuber and have watched this video before. It's really suspicious: he shared drinks with a couple and they somehow drugged him, broke into his apartment and robbed everything? I mean, how did that happen? How did some total strangers figure out the exact location of his apartment and get in?

My guess is he lied about what happened. Maybe he was having a drink with a girl in his apartment and got drugged. Even wilder, he was about to have a threesome with a couple in his apartment and got drugged. And when I saw him asking for donations from viewers to help him get through this, I even began to feel like the robbery never happened and he was just scamming his viewers for money.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2823270]Don't leave your banking apps on your phone. You know how much is in there. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2YGA1Jcklg[/URL].[/QUOTE]Lifehack: disable fingerprint auth for everything. If you are drugged they can access everything with your finger and can make wire transfers. Your phone is wide open, all your apps and emails and contacts. Old good at least 8 number PIN is much more secure.

Mr. Enternational, an astute man I've had the pleasure of meeting, it spot on in what he wrote:

"From those reviews it appears a lot of people are too needy. I have never had a problem choosing my own seat. I bring my own pillow, blanket, eye shades, water bottle full of ice, and snacks. All I need to do is sit down and put on my headphones and look at my tablet. Some people just show up and wait to be treated like baby birds.

I was a boy scout. The scout motto is Be Prepared, which I always am. Phone charger, power bank. Don't just show up and think everything that makes you comfortable will be provided. Bring your own comfort".

Exactly right! Assume airlines pride a seat and perhaps water. That's it. Have zero expectations. Pilots have a special bag of (electronic or paper) maps, navigation instruments and the more experienced, a battery powered VHF radio, sunglasses, ear plugs etc, sunscreen, skin moisterizer, eye drops and often a Bose aviation headset (and mix of deck cables) of their liking.

For passengers on long haul: bring a suitable entertainment device and media + velcro to affix to seat in front if you want, old fashioned books to read, high quality black out eye sleep mask (experiment and always have a few), NRR rate -38 dB ear plugs, spare A or AAA batteries & fully juiced up 40 mAh USB charger (about USD40) , noise cancelling headphones (Sony or Bose) (about 200 2nd hand), nutritious snack bars, small flashlight or reading light, trail mix, 50 ML bottles of favorite tipple, toothbrush + paste and foam headrest, plus eye droops if you wear contacts (humidity is low on aircraft) and warm but loose cotton travel cloths and quality travel blanket. I have a seat belt extender so if score 3-4 seats, a can sleep with it outside to avoid being woken up. These days I add a RF tile to my bags that have distinct markings and a large bit of paper INSIDE with contact details. Have all this is bag organized with pockets and zip lock bags, pack in the same way every trip and be methodical where everything has its place and have checklist before leaving home (passport, visa, copy of passport, emergency numbers on paper, etc). If you can afford international travel you can and should afford this basic kit. It makes flying so much easier. I also have GoogleFi as a backup plan so I never get left without data at 2am on a dark street. Make sure your phone is UNLOCKED and has band coverage: research this or you will have a disrupted and unpleasant time. US phone companies have shit service designed to rip you off and shittier call centers in third world slums with workers that are clueless. If you are "locked" to them you are in trouble at the best of times, and doubly so for international.

Besides your "real" phone, I strongly suggest a cheap UNLOCKED smartphone with ESN and conventional SIM no personal info on it just for mongering and uber linked with a pre-paid card in the name of say Dwight Eisenhower. Segregate your life when swimming in hooker land and remember where you are and what you are doing, these girls are out to make a buck, not be your best friend. If you are drunk or stoned or flashy then you have just painted a target on your back.

PLAN. ORGANIZE. AND HAVE LOTS OF FUN !

Great point by RedIce7 about fingerprint on phone access. Smartphones are insecure at the best of times, easily faked (read the articles), or your finger is used as you are asleep or tied up or maybe had it chopped off. Keeping financial apps on phones is silly. They are inherently insecure toys that leak you data promiscuously and easily hacked by any number of malware and state level malware. The latter includes the Canadian Government using them against striking truck drivers also with police facial recognition and even closing bank accounts or denying credit cards etc AFTER the protest ended as retaliation and to deter future counter narratives or political protests. They were used in COVID to enforce lock downs. Notice how manufacturers removed the ability to remove the battery or have a hard physical power switch?

I'm not making judgment about the truck protest merits: only the Nazi like response that is now normalized and will be copied by other so called freedom loving western countries to shut down any emerging political movement that gets serious traction. The likelihood of personal data being abused and mission creep is a certainty, and apparently is already a "thing" with the abortion states and personal data in the USA. Local cops are using it in hooker stings, using a device called a Stingray by Harris Inc that is a fake cell tower to trawl the entire populations phone ID and location, and no doubt used against anyone they don't like such as protests, especially anti-police or anti prohibition protests. Mongers are easily targeted and compromised. Be careful out there. They are homing devices and the number 1 target used to catch criminals crazy enough to carry them and leave a rich geolocation trail. Many places regard mongers as criminals, despite being with adult, fully consenting women in countries where it legal, the Nordic countries coming in for special mention. Their narrative is that women need to be told what's good for them and 100% of hookers are trafficked/ underage / drugged etc. There is no such thing as a woman who wants to enjoy sex and/or get paid in their world. All the ads online and eager hookers calling us back are apparently done at gunpoint by a pimp or other ridiculous scaremongering. And the punters are the ones who must be hunted down and punished, not the women, this is called the Nordic model which they want to have extraterritorial application. They want to own our sexuality, wallet and lifestyle !

Not long ago, the use of alcohol in USA was illegal. Very recently pot was illegal. Imagine if the police had that technology back in the day of alcohol prohibition ?

Smartphones are convenient but come with huge risks, including blackmail, robbery and theft of device and / or data or identity theft (and mass data spills) that is common in USA. They are never safe and you should treat them as a loaded weapon. Mongers are easy moral targets by angry, ugly and fat American housewives with political clout (see Nordic countries) and lazy cops wanting soft targets for fun and profit.

[QUOTE=Gropai;2823373] I mean, how did that happen? How did some total strangers figure out the exact location of his apartment and get in?[/QUOTE]There are several ways to look at it. It is much easier to [b]trick[/b] a person to do something when a person is drugged. Let's just say you are totally drunk and lost mobility and a friendly person trying to help you, would you refuse? This happens frequently in Medellin.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2823435]

Smartphones are convenient but come with huge risks, including blackmail, robbery and theft of device and / or data or identity theft (and mass data spills) that is common in USA. They are never safe and you should treat them as a loaded weapon. Monegrs are easy moral targets by angry and fat American housewives and lazy cops wanting soft targets for fun and profit.[/QUOTE]This. Even if you are "lucky" and they didn't manage to get access to your phone through finger if phone is stolen you still can get into trouble and you are open for blackmail. Contacts from SIM card can be accessed and data on microSD. So make sure your microSD is encrypted and you don't have any important phone numbers on your SIM. If you get out have a throw away mobile with nothing on it while keep your main phone safe, encrypted and PIN protected (with most important data removed in case it gets stolen from hotel or apartment).

Another lifehack: have smartwatch with e-sim for emergency. If your phone and wallet is stolen you may still have smartwatch and you can order uber to your hotel through your smartwatch. You can send somebody a message or you can use google maps.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2823442]There are several ways to look at it. It is much easier to trick a person to do something when a person is drugged. Let's just say you are totally drunk and lost mobility and a friendly person trying to help you, would you refuse? This happens frequently in Medellin.[/QUOTE]If you are drugged I could use your finger to access your phone and then you probably used uber or google maps then I will have a route, or maybe in first calls you have number to the hotel or airbnb, I could access your bank app and check your credit card payments for hotels or apartment, I could check your google search history. Your mobile is data goldmine.

One city or both? I have been to Colombia and Tijuana hundreds of times. Lived on the beach in Baja. P4 P is not my only interest. The ocean & beach scenery would be as nice as the girls. I have read & read posts of distinction and many other pages. And see more posts / people going to Rio than Sao Paulo. Yet seems that quality is a bit higher in Sao Paulo. Maybe more tourist traps in Rio but more girls with a little English? I would rather do ONE city but I'm open to seeing both. Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2823460]One city or both? I have been to Colombia and Tijuana hundreds of times. Lived on the beach in Baja. P4 P is not my only interest. The ocean & beach scenery would be as nice as the girls. I have read & read posts of distinction and many other pages. And see more posts / people going to Rio than Sao Paulo. Yet seems that quality is a bit higher in Sao Paulo. Maybe more tourist traps in Rio but more girls with a little English? I would rather do ONE city but I'm open to seeing both. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]If you have a solid two weeks on the ground (14 days), I say give each city a week (7 days each). That will give you enough time in each one to see which of them you like best, which will inform how much time you choose to spend in each of them the next time. Oh there will be a next time!

[QUOTE=Gropai;2823373]Not trying to refute your point that we should stay alert. You are absolutely right that we should take precautions. It's just that I know this youtuber and have watched this video before. It's really suspicious: he shared drinks with a couple and they somehow drugged him, broke into his apartment and robbed everything? I mean, how did that happen? How did some total strangers figure out the exact location of his apartment and get in?

My guess is he lied about what happened. Maybe he was having a drink with a girl in his apartment and got drugged. Even wilder, he was about to have a threesome with a couple in his apartment and got drugged. And when I saw him asking for donations from viewers to help him get through this, I even began to feel like the robbery never happened and he was just scamming his viewers for money.[/QUOTE]They went to the apartment together and then was drugged in the apartment. Don't bring strangers over to your apartment. You think he is broke and made it up? Possible. Were there cameras in the building to see their faces. Idk.

Anyway let's assume he is telling the truth. Another example of how dangerous apartments are to rent. A hotel with guest registration is so much more secure. Nothing is 100% because they could have a fake ID but it's better than nothing. Still follow the basic rules. Beater phone just for mongering. Take financial apps off your phone. Take only money you need per day to limit losses. Register guest. Never stay at apartments if you are bringing valuables like iPhone iPad recording equipment. If you don't have much in your apartment then I guess you can take the risk.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2823460]One city or both? I have been to Colombia and Tijuana hundreds of times. Lived on the beach in Baja. P4 P is not my only interest. The ocean & beach scenery would be as nice as the girls. I have read & read posts of distinction and many other pages. And see more posts / people going to Rio than Sao Paulo. Yet seems that quality is a bit higher in Sao Paulo. Maybe more tourist traps in Rio but more girls with a little English? I would rather do ONE city but I'm open to seeing both. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]All things being equal you'd probably find more higher quality women in SP than in Rio. Scandalo, Cafe Photo, etc. That being said Rio has plenty of high quality women. As for scenery the two places are just not in the same league. SP is just one ugly place while Rio is probably 'one of the' if not 'the' most beautiful cities in the world. I mean if you're in Copa you can't get away from beauty IMHO. Anywhere you look is freaking gorgeous.

Also, the attitude wise the two are not even close. Paulistas, the residents of SP are nice. But they're regular, more sophisticated, more reserved, closer to what you probably find at home. If you want to feel the heart of Brazil, that overwhelming positive energy that you can't get away from even if you try you come to Rio! That's why many of us fall in love with this country and want to move here. It's not because of all the hot women, although that of course too. It's because of that positivity that you experience particularly in Rio. I guarantee you after a week in Rio you'd come home a better man. You'd feel yourself a better man.

Attitude-wise there is nothing in this whole wide world like Carioca (female resident of Rio). She's happy, she's always beaming, sexy as whole hell, seem to be always ready to flash anybody in sight (at least in my experience). A little crazy at times but makes your day worth living even if you don't do shit. Carioca is 'bicho a parte' (the whole different animal) how I heard it said few times in other parts of Brazil. Obviously you can find all kinds in the city of 7 mil. And maybe with your luck you stumble upon a manic depressor but I bet chances of that happening in Rio are much smaller than anywhere else on earth.

This is what I'd do if I'd be you. I'd spend couple of nights in SP. Visit Scandalo (try to make it between Wed & Fri from what I understand), do few select privies that people here talk about, maybe a museum if that's your thing, and than take morning flight to St. Dumont. Don't get creative, stay in Copacobana. It's the most central, the most fun, and probably the safest area of the city. The closer you're to the Ipanema side of Copacobana the lower are the waves, but the further it would take you from Mab's, the restaurant that you have to visit at night at least once, because that's where all the street and other girls gather. Scan posts here, visit 4*4, Monte Carlo around 7 ish-8 ish at night but not later. Maybe even Solarium. Suck up to Vaga. If he looks kindly at you he might even take you on the tour of Centro privies and Vila Mimosa. Rio is Brazil man! SP is basically nothing more than financial center. You don't get enough of that in LA?

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2823460]One city or both? I have been to Colombia and Tijuana hundreds of times. Lived on the beach in Baja. P4P is not my only interest. The ocean & beach scenery would be as nice as the girls. I have read & read posts of distinction and many other pages. And see more posts / people going to Rio than Sao Paulo. Yet seems that quality is a bit higher in Sao Paulo. Maybe more tourist traps in Rio but more girls with a little English? I would rather do ONE city but I'm open to seeing both. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Rio is analogous to Miami (but much better of course) and Sao Paulo analogous to New York. If you seek the food, art, and culture of New York but don't care about the beach, then Sao Paulo is great. Sao Paulo has a ton to offer but it's very land locked and concrete-laden. If you care about the beach or the sight of green hills emerging from the ocean in stunning views, Rio will be better.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2823460]One city or both? I have been to Colombia and Tijuana hundreds of times. Lived on the beach in Baja. P4 P is not my only interest. The ocean & beach scenery would be as nice as the girls. I have read & read posts of distinction and many other pages. And see more posts / people going to Rio than Sao Paulo. Yet seems that quality is a bit higher in Sao Paulo. Maybe more tourist traps in Rio but more girls with a little English? I would rather do ONE city but I'm open to seeing both. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]If Beach is important then it's a no brainer. Rio. SP has no beach to offer. Plus seeing Christ the Redeemer and Sugarloaf are worthwhile. Stunning cafe at top of sugarloaf. Do t miss that. Recently Monte Carlo in Copacabana has been stacked with slim hotties.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2823514]If Beach is important then it's a no brainer. Rio. SP has no beach to offer. Plus seeing Christ the Redeemer and Sugarloaf are worthwhile. Stunning cafe at top of sugarloaf. Do t miss that. Recently Monte Carlo in Copacabana has been stacked with slim hotties.[/QUOTE]Need to revisit Monte Carlo. IMO it usually lags the other 1st tier termas. But every once in a while, it's really good for a couple months.

Why do the police not enter the area in zona norte marked with the star of David / Israel? . Complexo do Israel?

6/3, 7:49 PM J: Estrella do Israel policia no entra.

6/3, 7:50 PM J: Porque?

[QUOTE=RedIce7;2823444]If you are drugged I could use your finger to access your phone and then you probably used uber or google maps then I will have a route, or maybe in first calls you have number to the hotel or airbnb, I could access your bank app and check your credit card payments for hotels or apartment, I could check your google search history. Your mobile is data goldmine.[/QUOTE]I think you are going in circle. The point is when the robber can trick you to unlock the phone, your biometric (or your hack) is irrelevant.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2822762]What exactly is a passport bro. I have been seeing this term a lot lately. Is it guys that bang hookers outside America. Is it black makes that go outside the country. Is it guys that sleep with non hookers in 3rd world countries. How long has this phrase been around and does it have a specific definition or a broad range one.[/QUOTE]

Funny this topic is even getting in so called "News / Opinion" publications. (Online newsfeeds/magazine).
[URL]https://manandhome.com/passport-bros-men-pursue-love-across-borders/[/URL].

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2823460]One city or both? I have been to Colombia and Tijuana hundreds of times. Lived on the beach in Baja. P4 P is not my only interest. The ocean & beach scenery would be as nice as the girls. I have read & read posts of distinction and many other pages. And see more posts / people going to Rio than Sao Paulo. Yet seems that quality is a bit higher in Sao Paulo. Maybe more tourist traps in Rio but more girls with a little English? I would rather do ONE city but I'm open to seeing both. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]I spent 2 weeks in Rio and every girl I had was good in bed. One week in SP, I got two clock watchers and a dead fish. And the hottest girls I've seen are all in Rio. I actually canceled my SP trip and went back to Rio for the rest of my trip.

I've been to New York once and hated it. Went to a Knicks game freedom tower comedy club and never went back. I could see SP as the same concrete drab that New York was.

Rio is amazing. It has an energy when you leave in the morning that can't be matched. Sucobars on every corner if you stay in Copacabana. The breeze from the beach. I don't know how anyone could prefer SP. Colombia can't hold a candle to it. Tijuana is a toilet bowl compared to it. Argentina sucks. Costa Rica has nice rainforest and scenery but you have to leave the Ho area to get to it. Take a tour. Rio scenery is 2 blocks from your hotel. If you are young and in shape, learning how to surf small waves is a must. Give you something to do every morning. Get the juice's flowing. SP just seems boring for a 50 year old. I can only bang so many girls now. One a day usually. Sometimes I feel good and will do 2 or have a 3 way but that's 10 percent if the time. Never been to Thailand but from what I understand there is no major hooker area near the more beautiful beach attractions you see on you tube.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2823689]Never been to Thailand but from what I understand there is no major hooker area near the more beautiful beach attractions you see on you tube.[/QUOTE]Don't know who you have been talking to, but it must have been the wrong people. I am in Pattaya now and tomorrow morning will take the ferry over to Coral Island, $1 45 minutes. There are a few nice beaches there. Tien is my favorite.

Like some friends that I have in town now. They have been all over the markets in Bangkok shopping. I drew up an itinerary for them to follow from the beginning but they insisted on deviating and reinventing the wheel. Today I took them to the bazaar here. They immediately realized the time and money they had wasted in Bangkok because the place I took them was better and cheaper.

Then when they were on the way to Pattaya they tell me they are running late because the driver needed a gas coupon so he stopped at a place where they could buy jade. I said do you know anything about buying jade? That is a scam! And sent them a list of scams from online. I am right here for the asking but they think they know better than I am trying to teach them. You can lead a horse to water, but for the most part mfs have to learn on their own.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2823550]Why do the police not enter the area in zona norte marked with the star of David / Israel? . Complexo do Israel?

6/3, 7:49 PM J: Estrella do Israel policia no entra.

6/3, 7:50 PM J: Porque?[/QUOTE][URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2021/10/31/saiba-quem-e-peixao-chefe-do-complexo-de-israel-que-mistura-assistencialismo-com-violencia.ghtml[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2823575]Funny this topic is even getting in so called "News / Opinion" publications. (Online newsfeeds/magazine).
[URL]https://manandhome.com/passport-bros-men-pursue-love-across-borders/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Now in real Magazines.

[URL]https://www.mensjournal.com/news/tiktok-passport-bros-dating-abroad[/URL]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2823689]I've been to New York once and hated it. Went to a Knicks game freedom tower comedy club and never went back. I could see SP as the same concrete drab that New York was.

Rio is amazing. It has an energy when you leave in the morning that can't be matched. Sucobars on every corner if you stay in Copacabana. The breeze from the beach. I don't know how anyone could prefer SP. Colombia can't hold a candle to it. Tijuana is a toilet bowl compared to it. Argentina sucks. Costa Rica has nice rainforest and scenery but you have to leave the Ho area to get to it. Take a tour. Rio scenery is 2 blocks from your hotel. If you are young and in shape, learning how to surf small waves is a must. Give you something to do every morning. Get the juice's flowing. SP just seems boring for a 50 year old. I can only bang so many girls now. One a day usually. Sometimes I feel good and will do 2 or have a 3 way but that's 10 percent if the time. Never been to Thailand but from what I understand there is no major hooker area near the more beautiful beach attractions you see on you tube.[/QUOTE]I generally do both in a trip. First two or three nights in São Paulo followed by 5-10 nights in Rio. I've always thought São Paulo had better talent. IMO it's the best in the World for quality and quantity of hot women. But I agree with you that Rio is a much more enjoyable city. In Rio you feel like you're on vacation. In São Paulo you feel like you're in New York. I like New York, but when I'm on vacation, I want to feel like it's vacation.

Thank you.

On target.

[QUOTE=Questner;2823814][URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2021/10/31/saiba-quem-e-peixao-chefe-do-complexo-de-israel-que-mistura-assistencialismo-com-violencia.ghtml[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RedIce7;2823417]Lifehack: disable fingerprint auth for everything. If you are drugged they can access everything with your finger and can make wire transfers. Your phone is wide open, all your apps and emails and contacts. Old good at least 8 number PIN is much more secure.[/QUOTE]Agree. When I was drugged in Colombia they used facial recognition to get into my phone (trusted device) and then used my Paypal account to send themselves payments. I had thankfully removed my banking apps.

[QUOTE=The Critic;2823827]Now in real Magazines.
[URL]https://www.mensjournal.com/news/tiktok-passport-bros-dating-abroad[/URL] [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Critic;2823575]Funny this topic is even getting in so called "News / Opinion" publications. (Online newsfeeds/magazine).
[URL]https://manandhome.com/passport-bros-men-pursue-love-across-borders/[/URL] [/QUOTE]

Thanks! I found the articles to be an interesting read, as I don't typically keep up with a lot of today's "pop culture". Both articles mentioned men as the primary focus group and did not single out any one particular group of men.

But what surprised me, was at the end of the Men's Journal article, where they stated, the eye-watering number of views and the popularity of the subject matter. Which BTW, is only a 'hobbying rose' by any other name.

[QUOTE=MEN'S JOURNAL]...But while the movement is indeed gaining steam with the hashtag [b]#passportbros[/b] currently at over [b]422 million views[/b] on the platform perhaps TikTok user Trust Andy said it best. In a video back in February, he explained that [U]Japan[/u] has its own name for "passport bros," and [u]let's just say it's far less catchy.[/u][/QUOTE]

Care to have a guess, what the [b]"... far less catchy"[/b] phase is, they're talking about?....kkkk!

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2823178]I was going to fly Azul to Recife, but the reviews of it on Skytrax put me off.

[URL]https://www.airlinequality.com/airline-reviews/azul-linhas-aereas-brasileiras/[/URL][/QUOTE]I've traveled on many Brazilian airlines including the ones that are defunct now, and I would fly any Brazilian carrier based on price and scheduling only. Speaking of Azul, it's founded by the guy who gave us JetBlue, and, in my opinion, it's better than GOL and LATAM, albeit marginally.

[QUOTE=Combo;2823832]I generally do both in a trip. First two or three nights in So Paulo followed by 5-10 nights in Rio. I've always thought So Paulo had better talent. IMO it's the best in the World for quality and quantity of hot women. But I agree with you that Rio is a much more enjoyable city. In Rio you feel like you're on vacation. In So Paulo you feel like you're in New York. I like New York, but when I'm on vacation, I want to feel like it's vacation.[/QUOTE]Is there an agency thread for sao paulo. I go to Tijuana a lot, but am looking to whiten up my experience. I'm specifically looking for 18-19 BBFS, all natural bodies. I've never been to Brazil so any help is greatly appreciated.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Combo;2823832]I generally do both in a trip. First two or three nights in So Paulo followed by 5-10 nights in Rio. I've always thought So Paulo had better talent. IMO it's the best in the World for quality and quantity of hot women. But I agree with you that Rio is a much more enjoyable city. In Rio you feel like you're on vacation. In So Paulo you feel like you're in New York. I like New York, but when I'm on vacation, I want to feel like it's vacation.[/QUOTE]Weird airline pricing fluctuations. Cancelled 3 flights because prices doubled overnight. But ended up with Las to GRU $589. Unbelievably cheap 14 hour flights on American.

So far a 5. 0 rated Airbnb in GRU with city view on arrival, 2 nights. Then minimum 5 days in Copacabana 2 blocks from the beach. Eventual return to Sao Paulo. Still shopping. It seems like Sao Paulo is not happening on Sundays' / weekends (but Rio is? The other weird thing is you are supposed to drink and have a meal before the main dish upstairs. At Scandallo. I don't drink, not a foodie either although I often meet girls for dinner. Just not in a club environment.

[QUOTE=Combo;2823832]I generally do both in a trip. First two or three nights in So Paulo followed by 5-10 nights in Rio. I've always thought So Paulo had better talent. IMO it's the best in the World for quality and quantity of hot women. But I agree with you that Rio is a much more enjoyable city. In Rio you feel like you're on vacation. In So Paulo you feel like you're in New York. I like New York, but when I'm on vacation, I want to feel like it's vacation.[/QUOTE]I would say São Paulo is more enjoyable than NY walking wise (if you stay in the good neighbor hoods) as many of the blocks have trees and the buildings are not as overwhelming as NY. So I find walking in São Paulo very enjoyable. But yeah, nothing is going to compare to having the beach right there like in Rio.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2823827]Now in real Magazines.

[URL]https://www.mensjournal.com/news/tiktok-passport-bros-dating-abroad[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]First, he says to never underestimate an American accent, which he says is "exotic" to foreign women.[/QUOTE]LOL, really? The year is 2023. Even 20 years ago girls in Latin America already didn't give a fuck about an American accent.

You see a pearl of wisdom like that and you can't help but feel he's full of shit.

If 400 m + is true, that suggests a sexual market failure back home. Social media is changing the power of western women and all their demands. I'm not suprised, Brazil, Spain and Germany way better choices than most western women. So much so I am starting to realize several of the lovely young things I have in Rio are marriage material. I am really starting to know local families with kids and becoming part of this lovely country with upside. Not that I plan going down the marriage route again.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2823498]All things being equal you'd probably find more higher quality women in SP than in Rio. Scandalo, Cafe Photo, etc. That being said Rio has plenty of high quality women. As for scenery the two places are just not in the same league. SP is just one ugly place while Rio is probably 'one of the' if not 'the' most beautiful cities in the world. I mean if you're in Copa you can't get away from beauty IMHO. Anywhere you look is freaking gorgeous.

Also, the attitude wise the two are not even close. Paulistas, the residents of SP are nice. But they're regular, more sophisticated, more reserved, closer to what you probably find at home. If you want to feel the heart of Brazil, that overwhelming positive energy that you can't get away from even if you try you come to Rio! That's why many of us fall in love with this country and want to move here. It's not because of all the hot women, although that of course too. It's because of that positivity that you experience particularly in Rio. I guarantee you after a week in Rio you'd come home a better man. You'd feel yourself a better man.

Attitude-wise there is nothing in this whole wide world like Carioca (female resident of Rio). She's happy, she's always beaming, sexy as whole hell, seem to be always ready to flash anybody in sight (at least in my experience). A little crazy at times but makes your day worth living even if you don't do shit. Carioca is 'bicho a parte' (the whole different animal) how I heard it said few times in other parts of Brazil. Obviously you can find all kinds in the city of 7 mil. And maybe with your luck you stumble upon a manic depressor but I bet chances of that happening in Rio are much smaller than anywhere else on earth.

This is what I'd do if I'd be you. I'd spend couple of nights in SP. Visit Scandalo (try to make it between Wed & Fri from what I understand), do few select privies that people here talk about, maybe a museum if that's your thing, and than take morning flight to St. Dumont. Don't get creative, stay in Copacobana. It's the most central, the most fun, and probably the safest area of the city. The closer you're to the Ipanema side of Copacobana the lower are the waves, but the further it would take you from Mab's, the restaurant that you have to visit at night at least once, because that's where all the street and other girls gather. Scan posts here, visit 4*4, Monte Carlo around 7 ish-8 ish at night but not later. Maybe even Solarium. Suck up to Vaga. If he looks kindly at you he might even take you on the tour of Centro privies and Vila Mimosa. Rio is Brazil man! SP is basically nothing more than financial center. You don't get enough of that in LA?[/QUOTE]Flight lands in Sao Paulo. I'll stay 2 nights, then go to Rio, Copacabana and head back at the end of my trip for return flight out. Probably a couple more nights there before leaving. Appreciate you guys help.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2824721][QUOTE]First, he says to never underestimate an American accent, which he says is "exotic" to foreign women. [/QUOTE] LOL, really? The year is 2023. Even 20 years ago girls in Latin America already didn't give a fuck about an American accent.

You see a pearl of wisdom like that and you can't help but feel he's full of shit. [/QUOTE]Can't say I disagree with you on this account. But I think, more often than not, foreign women tend to find our wallets, more "exotic" than (or at the very least just as exotic as) our accents. (...kkkk!)

However, I will say, that whatever the dude is doing, it's working to the tune of near a 1/2 billion views. So the dude, has to be doing something right? But men's accents aside, he is at the very least,
giving men some broader "dating options" with a more global view. Which for the uninitiated men, it would seem are apparently in dire need, of such guidance.

[QUOTE=The Critic;2823575]Funny this topic is even getting in so called "News / Opinion" publications. (Online newsfeeds/magazine).
[URL]https://manandhome.com/passport-bros-men-pursue-love-across-borders [/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE= Man And Home] [b]Women Abroad Clapping Back: [/b] Interestingly, substantial [u]support for these Passport Bros comes from the women they seek abroad[/u]. These women stand up against critics who label them as uneducated or exploited, asserting their independence and agency.[/QUOTE]

Although, you gotta give it up for the lovely foreign women that, [b]"Stand by Your Man!"[/b] (as Tammy Wynette would put it)

[QUOTE=Spidy;2824961]Can't say I disagree with you on this account. But I think, more often than not, foreign women tend to find our wallets, more "exotic" than (or at the very least just as exotic as) our accents. (...kkkk!)

However, I will say, that whatever the dude is doing, it's working to the tune of near a 1/2 billion views. So the dude, has to be doing something right? But men's accents aside, he is at the very least,
giving men some broader "dating options" with a more global view. Which for the uninitiated men, it would seem are apparently in dire need, of such guidance.

Although, you gotta give it up for the lovely foreign women that, [b]"Stand by Your Man!"[/b] (as Tammy Wynette would put it)[/QUOTE]The new thing? Bro? Just because some dude on tik tok went semi viral for a few weeks with a hash tag # is that a trend? Yes it's an example that there are tourists, single guys who are fed up with Sex Prison. Some want to have a good time, travels, live abroad, some want a GFE, some would marry. There are thousands of dating sites (have been for years) . I. e Colombia Cupid claims Over 2 Million Members. (no hash tag) and Loveme com a marriage introduction service has offices in multiple countries around the world. 80,000 USA members. 60,000 weekly chats (not hash tags#) even ISG has over 500,00 registered users. And not to forget Tinder (75 million) plus a dozen more dating apps. FB, Twitter, it's the new normal. Dare I mention my free cams with 200,000 registered models sponsors mega conventions (adult entertainment expo) the list goes on. So 438 mil views is great divided by hundreds of tiktok accounts. . Let's see If that translates to taking action, spending $. It should. I wish him success.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2824995]The new thing? Bro? Just because some dude on tik tok went semi viral for a few weeks with a hash tag # is that a trend? ... [/QUOTE]

Yeah, I've been there, done that, got the T-shirt!

Check back a few days (and/or pages), you'll see, I already said as much to another BM and covered the very propositions you make.

My latest post w/r to "#passport bros", was simply to highlight that, although while back home in yes, "sex prison", the passport bro community were being vilified, maligned and debased, by American women and the morality police, the article did present and offer up, a shinning "white Knight/Dame" in defense of the much beleaguered and slandered, passport bro community.

Plus I was also just lamenting and applauding, what a real joy, it was to read about all these intelligent, educated, smart, talented and sexy foreign women, abate their critics and their American/overseas female counterparts and stand up for themselves and their foreign men/relationships. (ie. whether that be a passport bro, gringo boyfriend, sugar daddy, man-bank, donor/sponsor, male benefactor, guardian angel, simp, mongerer...etc, take your pick!).

As I've said, the guidance, that the passport bro community offers for the "uninitiated", is no doubt a welcomed option for some. After all, your [i]"happypenis, is a happy life!"[/i], is what counts, however you may get there.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2823468]They went to the apartment together and then was drugged in the apartment. Don't bring strangers over to your apartment. You think he is broke and made it up? Possible. Were there cameras in the building to see their faces. Idk.

Anyway let's assume he is telling the truth. Another example of how dangerous apartments are to rent. A hotel with guest registration is so much more secure. Nothing is 100% because they could have a fake ID but it's better than nothing. Still follow the basic rules. Beater phone just for mongering. Take financial apps off your phone. Take only money you need per day to limit losses. Register guest. Never stay at apartments if you are bringing valuables like iPhone iPad recording equipment. If you don't have much in your apartment then I guess you can take the risk.[/QUOTE]I do remember reading here that love hotels were great options for when you have GDPs. Is this the better idea? What's the protocols with them? How to go about it?

I have an Airbnb where I will arrive but after some reading, I definitely will not be taking GDPs to my place under any circumstances.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video77030913/mambo_tour_6_jasminy_villar_and_rebeca_villar_gets_nasty_at_the_beach_then_fuck_big_dicks_anal_atogm_monster_cock_gapes_ebony_1on2_2on2_ob171[/URL]

This dude needs to shoot with my fucking pit bull. This crazy motherfucker shoots on Barra beach posto 8 , not even a nude beach.

This is the secret ISGer.

Haha.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2825573][URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video77030913/mambo_tour_6_jasminy_villar_and_rebeca_villar_gets_nasty_at_the_beach_then_fuck_big_dicks_anal_atogm_monster_cock_gapes_ebony_1on2_2on2_ob171[/URL]

This dude needs to shoot with my fucking pit bull. This crazy motherfucker shoots on Barra beach posto 8 , not even a nude beach.

This is the secret ISGer.

Haha.[/QUOTE]My goal this July-August is to find me 2 negras exactly like that. Bi and super down for a few hours of fun.

Are negras like these common in all the places usually mentioned here? Or are these more of the types found in the more expensive websites? Could they be found in VM? Don't care where really.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2825409]... How to go about it?....[/QUOTE]The easiest way is to go with a girl at the same time in a car and let her handle the conversation while you pick the room type. All that I have been to are like a drive-thru in US. You can walk too if you want but most of them are designed as drive-thru and each unit has a garage.

Hey guys. I've been watching this forum on and off for a while now and thank you all for your insights and info.

I know there will be a visa required to enter Brazil at some point this year. I am going the first week of Sept. From US and coming back mid Sept. Do you think I will be ok without visa?

Also can anyone recommend some higher end hotels with security who register the escorts' IDs during visits for our safety? I would preferably want a suite with a kitchen as I have a friend coming with me.

Would reallllly appreciate any info. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2825409]I do remember reading here that love hotels were great options for when you have GDPs. Is this the better idea? What's the protocols with them? How to go about it?

I have an Airbnb where I will arrive but after some reading, I definitely will not be taking GDPs to my place under any circumstances.[/QUOTE]You're overreacting. Not to say this shit doesn't happen -- it does, but Brazil is not Colombia, so it's still rare. And you'll protect yourself even better if you befriend the doorman and ask him (them) to watch your back. In other words, the fear of getting poisoned wouldn't prevent me from renting an apartment in Rio, but to each his own.

That being said, love hotels are awesome if you book a right room with a right woman. Also, some rentals don't allow visitors at all, in which case you're forced to use a motel.

The Protocol:

1. Choose the motel and the room.

[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

2. Book if there is a discount to be had or just get there.

3. Do the deed.

4. Pay.

5. Leave happy.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2825573][URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video77030913/mambo_tour_6_jasminy_villar_and_rebeca_villar_gets_nasty_at_the_beach_then_fuck_big_dicks_anal_atogm_monster_cock_gapes_ebony_1on2_2on2_ob171[/URL]

This dude needs to shoot with my fucking pit bull. This crazy motherfucker shoots on Barra beach posto 8 , not even a nude beach..[/QUOTE]The look on his face (the guy on the beach) . . .

Sucking my dick -- again. Oh humanity, when is it going to stop!

Priceless, LOL.

Going to ask a dumb question. I am 90% sold on taking my first trip to Brazil. I've been spending most of my mongering time in MDE lately and feeling like finding somewhere new. Flirted with the idea of DR, but since RJ is on the beach, that wins out. My question, or problem, is I don't speak Portuguese at all. I know Google Translate is a lifesaver and that'll be my plan I suppose. But generally speaking, I'm a guy who likes longer dates to get to know the girl. I'm going to learn some basic phrases but I'll never be able to reach conversational level before my trip. Question: is there a method, location, or style of mongering that would increase my chances of finding a girl with at least minimal English?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2811937]I was in Rio one time and I believe it was at Monte Carlo where I saw a couple of guys wearing monogrammed robes LOL! Well they were big guys so I guess it was a good idea to bring their own personal robes that were a good fit for them. Worst robes in town were at Centaurus man all tattered and shit. Invest in the business why don't you? I mean you're charging enough![/QUOTE]OK, I'm not going to lie. This robe thing sounds wonderful. I've never been but it sounds great. But I'm a fat ass. No one wants to see some flimsy threads hanging on for dear life around this guy. However, the more I read about 4 x4, the more interested I am. I'm guessing it would be awkward. But is it really frowned upon or even possible to bring your own robe? Or would it be slightly less embarrassing to wear street clothes at 4 x 4.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2825864]OK, I'm not going to lie. This robe thing sounds wonderful. I've never been but it sounds great. But I'm a fat ass. No one wants to see some flimsy threads hanging on for dear life around this guy. However, the more I read about 4 x4, the more interested I am. I'm guessing it would be awkward. But is it really frowned upon or even possible to bring your own robe? Or would it be slightly less embarrassing to wear street clothes at 4 x 4.[/QUOTE]Not sure about bringing your own robe but I always wear my regular clothes in 4 x 4 and never had any weird looks. The only people's clothes, or lack of, that the men care about is the women's.

Monte Carlo is getting lots of good reviews lately and I plan on trying it again but when I went a few years ago, the robe I got was had holes and rips in it.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2825864]OK, I'm not going to lie. This robe thing sounds wonderful. I've never been but it sounds great. But I'm a fat ass. No one wants to see some flimsy threads hanging on for dear life around this guy. However, the more I read about 4 x4, the more interested I am. I'm guessing it would be awkward. But is it really frowned upon or even possible to bring your own robe? Or would it be slightly less embarrassing to wear street clothes at 4 x 4.[/QUOTE]You can hang out in the lower level of 4 X4 in street clothes, or at least you could. I don't think that's changed. But in my opinion, if you don't go through the whole change into a robe thing, then you're missing one of the most fun aspects of the entire experience, especially if it's your first time. If you're a big guy, then you can ask at the desk for an extra large robe, and they should be able to accommodate you. There have been times when I have asked for a little larger robe myself.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2825826]..... Flirted with the idea of DR, but since RJ is on the beach, that wins out.....[/QUOTE]Sosua, DR, has a nice beach.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2826008]You can hang out in the lower level of 4 X4 in street clothes, or at least you could. I don't think that's changed. But in my opinion, if you don't go through the whole change into a robe thing, then you're missing one of the most fun aspects of the entire experience, especially if it's your first time. If you're a big guy, then you can ask at the desk for an extra large robe, and they should be able to accommodate you. There have been times when I have asked for a little larger robe myself.[/QUOTE]Thanks to you, and to SoberHans. I agree with you, Cane. Not doing the robe thing seems like a lost opportunity. But, the last thing I want to do is be that dude. So I'm really leaning towards bringing my own robe. Would 4 x 4 have a problem with that or bringing a tiny duffle bag for the locker. I don't want to explain to a taxi driver why the hell I have a robe in my lap. LMAO.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2826014]Sosua, DR, has a nice beach.[/QUOTE]I'm still not 100% sold. DR is still an option. Sosua seems like a bigger learning curve than Rio. Granted, my Spanish is passable and my Porto is non-existent so that's a definite plus. The other positive is flight time. But two facets of Rio seem to win out in my mind. I could be wrong with either point. But 1-Rio is just a nicer place to visit (thinking down time) and 2-while I've never been to Brazil, I believe that I'm more attracted to South American women than Dominican women.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2826056]Thanks to you, and to SoberHans. I agree with you, Cane. Not doing the robe thing seems like a lost opportunity. But, the last thing I want to do is be that dude. So I'm really leaning towards bringing my own robe. Would 4 x 4 have a problem with that or bringing a tiny duffle bag for the locker. I don't want to explain to a taxi driver why the hell I have a robe in my lap. LMAO.[/QUOTE]I always arrive with a little carrying case or bag with things in it that I want to bring with me, so no problem there (I and others have even had luggage with us at times). You can leave the bag in the locker when you change. Also, I don't think there will be any issues with bringing your own robe. I once went to World carrying a robe in a shoulder bag because at that time they didn't offer robes for free and only towels. I like robes because they have pockets and are overall just more comfortable to me. If you don't want to stick out, make sure your robe is white and plain and otherwise nondescript.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2826058]I'm still not 100% sold. DR is still an option. Sosua seems like a bigger learning curve than Rio. Granted, my Spanish is passable and my Porto is non-existent so that's a definite plus. The other positive is flight time. But two facets of Rio seem to win out in my mind. I could be wrong with either point. But 1-Rio is just a nicer place to visit (thinking down time) and 2-while I've never been to Brazil, I believe that I'm more attracted to South American women than Dominican women.[/QUOTE]Not only does Sosua has a beach (more than one, by the way), but it's a much nicer beach, too, along with the ocean where you can actually enjoy swimming -- unlike Rio beaches with their extremely strong currents where the waves will throw your around like a metal can.

The reason to go to Rio over Sosua is that a) it's a huge and fascinating city, b) mongering in Rio is WAY better and cheaper than Sosua. You're practically guaranteed to have a great time in Rio even as a newcomer. Sosua is a good place in terms of proximity to the US. Plus you'll do great if you cultivate your own harem over the years, but that takes time and patience that I lack. That's why there is a never-ending debate in the Sosua thread between veterans and expats on one side and everyone else.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2825826]Going to ask a dumb question. I am 90% sold on taking my first trip to Brazil. I've been spending most of my mongering time in MDE lately and feeling like finding somewhere new. Flirted with the idea of DR, but since RJ is on the beach, that wins out. My question, or problem, is I don't speak Portuguese at all. I know Google Translate is a lifesaver and that'll be my plan I suppose. But generally speaking, I'm a guy who likes longer dates to get to know the girl. I'm going to learn some basic phrases but I'll never be able to reach conversational level before my trip. Question: is there a method, location, or style of mongering that would increase my chances of finding a girl with at least minimal English?[/QUOTE]If you speak Spanish you will have a little chance but English you will be lucky to find a girl speaking good english in Rio.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2826056].... But, the last thing I want to do is be that dude. So I'm really leaning towards bringing my own robe. Would 4 x 4 have a problem with that or bringing a tiny duffle bag for the locker. I don't want to explain to a taxi driver why the hell I have a robe in my lap. LMAO.[/QUOTE]That is not a problem. They can even watch the luggage for you. It's an old woman tending the locker.

4 x4 is located in Centro so it has the characteristic of a Centro club. It's a little dark in the club area vs Solarium which is brightly lit and more organized.

The best place to find an English speaking girl will be Scandallo in SP because there are more better educated girls working there but I don't think it is that important.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2826178]That is not a problem. They can even watch the luggage for you. It's an old woman tending the locker.

4 x4 is located in Centro so it has the characteristic of a Centro club. It's a little dark in the club area vs Solarium which is brightly lit and more organized.

The best place to find an English speaking girl will be Scandallo in SP because there are more better educated girls working there but I don't think it is that important.[/QUOTE]Not just Scandallo. SP is a better place in general than Rio to find an English-speaking girl.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2826178]That is not a problem. They can even watch the luggage for you. It's an old woman tending the locker.

4 x4 is located in Centro so it has the characteristic of a Centro club. It's a little dark in the club area vs Solarium which is brightly lit and more organized.

The best place to find an English speaking girl will be Scandallo in SP because there are more better educated girls working there but I don't think it is that important.[/QUOTE]Really helpful information. I appreciate it!

I've thought about SP and I'm still considering it. But since it's my first trip to Brazil, I want to see some of the tourist crap, too and I think Rio wins there.

Again, sincere thanks. I have alot of studying to do in the coming weeks.

I've had threadbare, ratty robes at Monte Carlos before. I asked for a new robe and got a new robe. Added maybe 30's to the entire process of getting ready for the club. I agree with other posters, wearing a robe is part of the experience, especially when you start getting some thigh stroking during your "interviews".

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2825864]OK, I'm not going to lie. This robe thing sounds wonderful. I've never been but it sounds great. But I'm a fat ass. No one wants to see some flimsy threads hanging on for dear life around this guy.[/QUOTE]The part that the other guys failed to mention is that nobody cares about that shit. In Brazil people are people and they do not have the hangups that some other countries may have. Go and let loose.

Who remembers the guy that used to work on Copacabana Beach back in the day that wore the sunga (Speedo) and had some big ass tumor in his nutsack? If that guy could walk around like that everyday then I assure you they will have no problem with you wearing a robe in a private fuck club. You will cheat the fuck out of yourself by going to DR instead of Brazil.

Monday.

Today, Vagabundo hit emporio, barebacked a girl, all that was required was some dinheiro.

Then, went to do some errands, and Nina de Ponca joined me, and we went to Sheik and did a fuck massage fuck, also bare up her mulatta ass. 300 r.

Here is the play by play. 4 x4 is always a topic.

11:23 AM, 6/12/2023 ISG: [URL]4x4class.com.br[/URL].

1:59 PM, 6/12/2023 : Went to emporio and barbacked a girl.

2:01 PM, 6/12/2023: Early start for you. Had some work to do. Now lunch and will head to 4 x4 to check out the wares.

4:06 PM, 6/12/2023: [URL]https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=JLtBi--FJL8&feature=share[/URL].

4:14 PM, 6/12/2023: At 4 x4 at 4:13 PM. About 12 girls here. Most the same size as me.

4:14 PM, 6/12/2023 May walk over to 65 before it gets dark.

4:21 PM, 6/12/2023: Walk over to emporio and breed a massagista again. Kkk.

4:24 PM, 6/12/2023: Need to mix it up and break new ground. Will be back there again later this week.

4:38 PM, 6/12/2023 Starting to realize Brazilians might take Lovers' Day seriously. 65 has eight girls. One doable (IMO), which is actually an improvement over 4 x4. Will give them another go later this week.

4:39 PM, 6/12/2023: The Swiss Guard Navy expects a full titty bar survey for Honeytraps LLC, a Texas LLC, a client of UBS!!

5:26 PM, 6/12/2023: Monday is the worst day to visit 4 x4, Tuesday. Thursday are usually the best nights. Sometime between 17 h - 22 h would be the best time to visit, you should get to see the most women, when the day and night shifts overlap. If you session before 18 h they will refund the 60 reais cover. Almost all of the women who work at night will be there by 20 h. Some nights a lot of women start leaving around 22 h, especially if it is a slow night with not a lot of customers. Sometimes there are 50+ women at one time at 4 x4 but not on a Monday.

[6:58 PM, 6/12/2023: Excellent massage and BBBJCIM in 65. Headed to Solarium 😆.

7:20 PM, 6/12/2023: I just barback ass fucked a mulatta in hotel sheik.

7:22 PM, 6/12/2023: [URL]https://maps.google.com/maps/search/Hotel%20Sheik/@-22.90774917602539[/URL], -43.185150146484375,17 z?hl=en.

Hotel Sheik.

[URL]https://foursquare.com/v/4f18610ae4b0e5837c1e25d6[/URL]

Rio de Janeiro, RJ.

7:23 PM, 6/12/2023: So the moves are get off your air plane, go to prive creampie a hoar, go to 4 x4 get numbers, go to ganjacoffeeshop Rua rezende, creampie hoars in sheik, or lips.

7:25 PM, 6/12/2023 What is ganja coffee shop?

7:35 PM, 6/12/2023: Google.

7:35 PM, 6/12/2023: Rua rezende 82.

7:38 PM, 6/12/2023: Ok.

9:21 PM, 6/12/2023: Does it make me a heretic to laugh at this?

[URL]https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2825864]OK, I'm not going to lie. This robe thing sounds wonderful. I've never been but it sounds great. But I'm a fat ass. No one wants to see some flimsy threads hanging on for dear life around this guy. However, the more I read about 4 x4, the more interested I am. I'm guessing it would be awkward. [b]But is it really frowned upon or even possible to bring your own robe?[/b]
Or would it be slightly less embarrassing to wear street clothes at 4 x 4.[/QUOTE]You got to wear the robe.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2826008] But in my opinion, if you don't go through the whole change into a robe thing, then you're missing one of the most fun aspects of the entire experience, especially if it's your first time. [/QUOTE]So True.

The 4 x4 robes are White, short, thin terry cloth / cotton robes like the approx sizing (of the first image) way above the knee. Now bringing your own robe [B].....[/B] Well, if its full length (second image) or wearing a silk or Hugh Hefner style (third Image) or with you initials monogramed robe you may get some stares[B].....[/B]LOL.

Just keep it simple, if brining your own robe, Knee to slightly above Knee white cotton / terrycloth that you're comfortable in or just ask for a larger size robe.

But you got to wear the robe!

Just saying, If you used the search feature, and searched on [b]Robe[/b] you would have seen the discussion on the pros and cons of wearing the Robe on 4/24/2023.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2810542&viewfull=1#post2810542[/url]

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2826303]You got to wear the robe.

So True.

The 4 x4 robes are White, short, thin terry cloth / cotton robes like the approx sizing (of the first image) way above the knee. Now bringing your own robe [B].....[/B] Well, if its full length (second image) or wearing a silk or Hugh Hefner style (third Image) or with you initials monogramed robe you may get some stares[B].....[/B]LOL.

Just keep it simple, if brining your own robe, Knee to slightly above Knee white cotton / terrycloth that you're comfortable in or just ask for a larger size robe.

But you got to wear the robe!

Just saying, If you used the search feature, and searched on [b]Robe[/b] you would have seen the discussion on the pros and cons of wearing the Robe on 4/24/2023.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2810542&viewfull=1#post2810542[/url][/QUOTE]LMAO at the Hugh Heffner robe. Not quite my style. LOL But that would be funny as shit to watch. Thanks for the advice. I hadn't really thought about length. And yeah, I searched the forum. That's what leads me to believe that I'd miss out if I didn't wear the robe. I guess I'll be buying a simple white robe. Thank you to all for the advice.

Just to throw my 2 real into the robe discussion: I have never taken my clothes off in any of the top 5 RJ Termas and I don't think I missed anything. The girls will still grope you under the table, you can still make out and fool around with them as well. In a couple of Termas like Solarium, my favorite BTW, they want you to wear a robe over your t-shirt and jeans, but in other joints like Perola Negra customers can just wear their street clothes.

Look, I get it. If you want to go along with the custom and it makes you happy, stow your clothes in a locker and wear the robe. But for me it is no big deal, It is not like the RJ Termas are in any way comparable to Macau Saunas where stripping down and wearing a robe is required. I enjoy wearing a robe in Macau Saunas because it is an integral part the sauna experience. I mean if you go to one of these bordellos, you owe it to yourself to have a thigh massage and a Japanese bath performed by a pretty Vietnamese girl before you get to the main course and select a show quality girl for boom boom.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2826179]Not just Scandallo. SP is a better place in general than Rio to find an English-speaking girl.[/QUOTE]What I like about SP is that you can lay girls who are not tutes in the true sense of the word. I have banged a not so successful journalist and a dental technician in Abboboro.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2826394]Just to throw my 2 real into the robe discussion: I have never taken my clothes off in any of the top 5 RJ Termas and I don't think I missed anything. The girls will still grope you under the table, you can still make out and fool around with them as well. In a couple of Termas like Solarium, my favorite BTW, they want you to wear a robe over your t-shirt and jeans, but in other joints like Perola Negra customers can just wear their street clothes.

Look, I get it. If you want to go along with the custom and it makes you happy, stow your clothes in a locker and wear the robe. But for me it is no big deal, It is not like the RJ Termas are in any way comparable to Macau Saunas where stripping down and wearing a robe is required. I enjoy wearing a robe in Macau Saunas because it is an integral part the sauna experience. I mean if you go to one of these bordellos, you owe it to yourself to have a thigh massage and a Japanese bath performed by a pretty Vietnamese girl before you get to the main course and select a show quality girl for boom boom.[/QUOTE]I agree, if you want to just wear a robe, great, if not, great too. Do whatever makes you feel comfortable.

I don't understand why people on here seem to think their preference is the only way to do things.

As I've said on more than one occasion, I'm a robe guy. If you don't want it, that's fine, but if you're debating it -- get a robe. It really does enhance the whole experience, LOL. Not only would they be able to rich all parts of your body easily, but you can also visit a sauna and take shower before and after the main course. I just don't see the downside.

I think bringing your own robe is an overkill. Despite my large size, the attendants have never failed to deliver a robe that would fit me perfectly (sometimes it would take them a few minutes to find).

If you dislike the robe they hand you for whatever reason, you can ask for another one. They do want appreciate a tip from an occasional gringo.

Still want to bring your own robe? Go ahead if it tickles your fancy. This can be a nice conversation starter if you actually need one in a hoarhouse, LOL.

Man sets fire to call girl in Rio de Janeiro. Woman says attacker later offered her money to 'keep quiet'; Police try to identify the suspect. [URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2023/06/homem-ateia-fogo-em-garota-de-programa-no-rio-de-janeiro.shtml[/URL].

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2826394]I have never taken my clothes off in any of the top 5 RJ Termas and I don't think I missed anything. Look, I get it. If you want to go along with the custom and it makes you happy, stow your clothes in a locker and wear the robe. But for me it is no big deal,[/QUOTE]Blasphemy! Next you will be telling us that you do not pee on the wall when you get off the bus at the underpass and walk to Vila Mimosa.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2826444]I agree, if you want to just wear a robe, great, if not, great too. Do whatever makes you feel comfortable. I don't understand why people on here seem to think their preference is the only way to do things.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that on this subject anyone here has acted as if there's only one way to do things. Plenty here have said before that there's no one "right way" to monger. The man asked a question seeking feedback and people weighed in giving him their honest opinion on the matter. Take it or leave it. But if and when he does go to 4 x4 guess what? He's going to see that virtually every one there will be in agreement with those of us who say it's best to wear a robe to have "the full experience" versus staying in street clothes because they too will be in robes. To wear a robe is the clear majority view, not only here but within the broader termas culture itself. If somebody doesn't want to wear one and that's allowed by the establishment, then fine don't. It's just that some of us strongly believe that you're missing out on an enjoyable aspect of being there if you don't. Somebody here mentioned that one of the places would want you to wear a robe over your clothes. Didn't someone say that? Now [B]that[/B] in my view would look pretty absurd (and make it harder for a hottie to get at your dick)!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2826159]Not only does Sosua has a beach (more than one, by the way), but it's a much nicer beach, too, along with the ocean where you can actually enjoy swimming -- unlike Rio beaches with their extremely strong currents where the waves will throw your around like a metal can.

The reason to go to Rio over Sosua is that a) it's a huge and fascinating city, b) mongering in Rio is WAY better and cheaper than Sosua. You're practically guaranteed to have a great time in Rio even as a newcomer. Sosua is a good place in terms of proximity to the US. Plus you'll do great if you cultivate your own harem over the years, but that takes time and patience that I lack. That's why there is a never-ending debate in the Sosua thread between veterans and expats on one side and everyone else.[/QUOTE]I went to Puerta Plata, DR once, and stayed at Blackbeards resort. Thumbs Up on the beaches and the warm Caribbean waters. Thumbs down on the women. I found them too transactional and clinical. Other friends went to Souza and had similar experiences. That trip turned me off to the DR. That said, I have a friend who's been going there for years. He's got a good collection of ladies. He finds them online. I need to vet the them in person, get a feel for them.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2826635]I don't believe that on this subject anyone here has acted as if there's only one way to do things. Plenty here have said before that there's no one "right way" to monger. The man asked a question seeking feedback and people weighed in giving him their honest opinion on the matter. Take it or leave it. But if and when he does go to 4 x4 guess what? He's going to see that virtually every one there will be in agreement with those of us who say it's best to wear a robe to have "the full experience" versus staying in street clothes because they too will be in robes. To wear a robe is the clear majority view, not only here but within the broader termas culture itself. If somebody doesn't want to wear one and that's allowed by the establishment, then fine don't. It's just that some of us strongly believe that you're missing out on an enjoyable aspect of being there if you don't. Somebody here mentioned that one of the places would want you to wear a robe over your clothes. Didn't someone say that? Now [B]that[/B] in my view would look pretty absurd (and make it harder for a hottie to get at your dick)![/QUOTE]A few posts below yours, someone posted 'you got to wear the robe. '.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2826635]But if and when he does go to 4 x4 guess what? He's going to see that virtually every one there will be in agreement with those of us who say it's best to wear a robe to have "the full experience" versus staying in street clothes because they too will be in robes. To wear a robe is the clear majority view, not only here but within the broader termas culture itself.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of one of these kids is doing his own thing. When in Rome FUCK what the Romans are doing.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2826503]Man sets fire to call girl in Rio de Janeiro. Woman says attacker later offered her money to 'keep quiet'; Police try to identify the suspect. [URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2023/06/homem-ateia-fogo-em-garota-de-programa-no-rio-de-janeiro.shtml[/URL].[/QUOTE]Weird ass story. What does her being a hooker have to do with anything? She said she was sitting in the car with a friend when the guy (a stranger) came up. Seems he may have been one of those youtube prank guys or something. He used deodorant spray and a lighter to make a flamethrower and her hair was burned. He sent her a message on whatsapp later offering her money not to say anything. How the hell did he get her phone number to send her a message?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2826159]Not only does Sosua has a beach (more than one, by the way), but it's a much nicer beach, too, along with the ocean where you can actually enjoy swimming -- unlike Rio beaches with their extremely strong currents where the waves will throw your around like a metal can.

The reason to go to Rio over Sosua is that a) it's a huge and fascinating city, b) mongering in Rio is WAY better and cheaper than Sosua. You're practically guaranteed to have a great time in Rio even as a newcomer. Sosua is a good place in terms of proximity to the US. Plus you'll do great if you cultivate your own harem over the years, but that takes time and patience that I lack. That's why there is a never-ending debate in the Sosua thread between veterans and expats on one side and everyone else.[/QUOTE]This is a really helpful analysis and comparison. Much appreciated! I'm definitely second guessing myself (primarily due to language. I speak zero Porto) but I'm probably booking Rio tomorrow. Your info and comparison was the exact confirmation I needed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2826243]The part that the other guys failed to mention is that nobody cares about that shit. In Brazil people are people and they do not have the hangups that some other countries may have. Go and let loose.

Who remembers the guy that used to work on Copacabana Beach back in the day that wore the sunga (Speedo) and had some big ass tumor in his nutsack? If that guy could walk around like that everyday then I assure you they will have no problem with you wearing a robe in a private fuck club. You will cheat the fuck out of yourself by going to DR instead of Brazil.[/QUOTE]Valuable info, thanks, Mr. E. Not sure I needed to know about a nutsack tumor! LOL. But point well taken.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2826725]I went to Puerta Plata, DR once, and stayed at Blackbeards resort. Thumbs Up on the beaches and the warm Caribbean waters. Thumbs down on the women. I found them too transactional and clinical. Other friends went to Souza and had similar experiences. That trip turned me off to the DR. That said, I have a friend who's been going there for years. He's got a good collection of ladies. He finds them online. I need to vet the them in person, get a feel for them.[/QUOTE]Well, if your friend is willing to share, you can have a great time in Sosua. Not having to dig for a rare gem can be a huge differentiator.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2826841]This is a really helpful analysis and comparison. Much appreciated! I'm definitely second guessing myself (primarily due to language. I speak zero Porto) but I'm probably booking Rio tomorrow. Your info and comparison was the exact confirmation I needed.[/QUOTE]Glad if I could help, good luck!

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2826841]I'm definitely second guessing myself (primarily due to language. I speak zero Porto) but I'm probably booking Rio tomorrow. Your info and comparison was the exact confirmation I needed.[/QUOTE]How many of us you think spoke Portuguese our first time in Brazil? But those women ended up being a great motivator to learn! Been to Vietnam; I do not speak Vietnamese. Been to Russia; I do not speak Russian. First time to Thailand I did not speak Thai. Do not let not knowing the language be an excuse for not going somewhere.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2826735]A few posts below yours, someone posted 'you got to wear the robe. '.[/QUOTE]When put in it's proper context of the post in which it was delivered, [i]"you got to wear the robe" [/i], takes on its true and proper meaning of, should you want to [b]really and truly, [/b] wish to fully immerse yourself and fully experience Brazilian Rio terma culture, [b]then[/b] [i]"you got to wear the robe"[/i]. Almost, like a [b]"bucket list"[/b] type of event, if you will.

BTW, the post also included/referenced, the discussions of [b]pros[/b] and [b]cons[/b], where the reader could still decide for themselves, whether it was something they wanted to do.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2827236]When put in it's proper context of the post in which it was delivered, [i]"you got to wear the robe" [/i], takes on its true and proper meaning of, should you want to [b]really and truly, [/b] wish to fully immerse yourself and fully experience Brazilian Rio terma culture, [b]then[/b] [i]"you got to wear the robe"[/i]. Almost, like a [b]"bucket list"[/b] type of event, if you will.

BTW, the post also included/referenced, the discussions of [b]pros[/b] and [b]cons[/b], where the reader could still decide for themselves, whether it was something they wanted to do.[/QUOTE]Your eloquent words, captured the true essence of my statement. I'm glad you understood what I was saying.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2810078]I just spent 9 days in Rio .....
I think the women in Colombia, Venezuela, and Panama are a little more sensual. *The girl's bodies were also much more natural with few fake tits and even fewer fake asses (SP may be different). I don't think the women's faces, style, or fitness is anywhere near as attractive as Colombia, but the women were much more laid back (beach lifestyle)
Other.
.[/QUOTE]I understand YMMV and I am still planning a trip. But maybe I will shorten to 7 days and also stop in Colombia. Also seems more expensive in Brazil.

When I bartended in my 20's I served this morbidly obese girl with a mouth like a sailor. After 5 minutes of interacting with her, I told myself she has to be the most unattractive woman inside and out that I had ever met. Face was a 3 body was a 1 personality was a 1. Just a horrible person. I thought to myself " I wonder if this girl has ever had a boyfriend or currently has one". I swear to god, 7 minutes later this guy dressed in a suit came up and kissed her on the cheek and said " isn't she the most beautiful woman you ever saw". I started laughing inside trying not to laugh in his face, so I walked away so I could bust out laughing without them seeing me. I learned that day that guys will F anything if they are desperate enough. Either he had a scale that was completely different than other guys or he ignored any normal 1-10 scale.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2827348]When I bartended in my 20's I served this morbidly obese girl with a mouth like a sailor. After 5 minutes of interacting with her, I told myself she has to be the most unattractive woman inside and out that I had ever met. Face was a 3 body was a 1 personality was a 1. Just a horrible person. I thought to myself " I wonder if this girl has ever had a boyfriend or currently has one". I swear to god, 7 minutes later this guy dressed in a suit came up and kissed her on the cheek and said " isn't she the most beautiful woman you ever saw". I started laughing inside trying not to laugh in his face, so I walked away so I could bust out laughing without them seeing me. I learned that day that guys will F anything if they are desperate enough. Either he had a scale that was completely different than other guys or he ignored any normal 1-10 scale.[/QUOTE]Dude about a month ago I visited the famed Scandallo in SP for the first time. Many girls were exceptional looking but I could count at least 3 chicks that I thought were outright ugly. 2 of them were occupied by seemingly very excited gentlemen. Taste differ man. That's just the way it is.

What I thought was the ugliest girl in my class is married to a real hunk who loves her like there is no tomorrow. Thank God children look more like him though, I think LOL.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2827344]I understand YMMV and I am still planning a trip. But maybe I will shorten to 7 days and also stop in Colombia. Also seems more expensive in Brazil.[/QUOTE]I've been to Bogota and Cartagena. I believe mongering in Rio is a little cheaper than Bogota, let alone Cartagena. Of course, venues you choose matter, but if you compare apples to apples then I think Rio wins. Plus BBBJ goes by default in Rio, but often an upsell in Colombia.

What percentage of women are complete sociopaths?

I'm reading about another false rape accusation against Connor McGregor at the Miami Heat final. These women are crazy lying sociopaths and psychopaths. The lawyer post his client's accusation that his security forced her into the public restroom and Connor was waiting in the handicap stall and came out like a horror movie and raped her. I knew it was ridiculous when I read it. Then TMZ post the cell phone video of him holding her hand and walking in the bathroom together.

Even though she is caught blatantly lying, she is now changing her story after the video. Are there no criminal repercussions to this. The lawyer doesn't even drop her as a client after the video comes out. How evil are women that they would lie about being raped. What percentage of rape accusations are false, if you had to guess. We get shit on by society for banging hookers but we have more morals than most of these gold diggers in the US.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2827348]When I bartended in my 20's I served this morbidly obese girl with a mouth like a sailor. After 5 minutes of interacting with her, I told myself she has to be the most unattractive woman inside and out that I had ever met. Face was a 3 body was a 1 personality was a 1. Just a horrible person. I thought to myself " I wonder if this girl has ever had a boyfriend or currently has one". I swear to god, 7 minutes later this guy dressed in a suit came up and kissed her on the cheek and said " isn't she the most beautiful woman you ever saw". I started laughing inside trying not to laugh in his face, so I walked away so I could bust out laughing without them seeing me. I learned that day that guys will F anything if they are desperate enough. Either he had a scale that was completely different than other guys or he ignored any normal 1-10 scale.[/QUOTE]Her parents were multi-millionaires and the guy worked for her dad!!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2827550]Her parents were multi-millionaires and the guy worked for her dad!![/QUOTE]LOL. Couples like that in Latin America is business as usual. People love who they love and I see less worrying about what the next person thinks in that part of the world.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2826940]How many of us you think spoke Portuguese our first time in Brazil? But those women ended up being a great motivator to learn! Been to Vietnam; I do not speak Vietnamese. Been to Russia; I do not speak Russian. First time to Thailand I did not speak Thai. Do not let not knowing the language be an excuse for not going somewhere.[/QUOTE]It didn't stop me. I officially booked my first visit in a few months. Airfare wasn't too bad. But I got alot of studying to do. Not just language but best methods amd locales for my style. Thanks again for the encouragement.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2827613]It didn't stop me. I officially booked my first visit in a few months. Airfare wasn't too bad. But I got alot of studying to do. Not just language but best methods amd locales for my style. Thanks again for the encouragement.[/QUOTE]Just curious what your airfare was if you don't mind saying.

The problem with american women is american men.

American men have let the be! Tches take over.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2827538]What percentage of women are complete sociopaths?

I'm reading about another false rape accusation against Connor McGregor at the Miami Heat final. These women are crazy lying sociopaths and psychopaths. The lawyer post his client's accusation that his security forced her into the public restroom and Connor was waiting in the handicap stall and came out like a horror movie and raped her. I knew it was ridiculous when I read it. Then TMZ post the cell phone video of him holding her hand and walking in the bathroom together.

Even though she is caught blatantly lying, she is now changing her story after the video. Are there no criminal repercussions to this. The lawyer doesn't even drop her as a client after the video comes out. How evil are women that they would lie about being raped. What percentage of rape accusations are false, if you had to guess. We get shit on by society for banging hookers but we have more morals than most of these gold diggers in the US.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2827538]What percentage of women are complete sociopaths?

I'm reading about another false rape accusation against Connor McGregor at the Miami Heat final. These women are crazy lying sociopaths and psychopaths. The lawyer post his client's accusation that his security forced her into the public restroom and Connor was waiting in the handicap stall and came out like a horror movie and raped her. I knew it was ridiculous when I read it. Then TMZ post the cell phone video of him holding her hand and walking in the bathroom together.

Even though she is caught blatantly lying, she is now changing her story after the video. Are there no criminal repercussions to this. The lawyer doesn't even drop her as a client after the video comes out. How evil are women that they would lie about being raped. What percentage of rape accusations are false, if you had to guess. We get shit on by society for banging hookers but we have more morals than most of these gold diggers in the US.[/QUOTE]That's the down side of being a rich celebrity. She's not really interested in him going to jail, just to settle the case financially.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2827822]Just curious what your airfare was if you don't mind saying.[/QUOTE]Before seats, upgrades, etc, it was $650. Now the flight itinerary sucks. 1st stop Miami. 2nd stop Sao Paolo. And finally to Rio. 15 hours total. But I'm a cheap ass when it comes to flights. LOL. I did see a flight with a direct flight from Miami but it was around $1,300. This is in September, so well in advance.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2827904]That's the down side of being a rich celebrity. She's not really interested in him going to jail, just to settle the case financially.[/QUOTE]She still accused him of a horrible crime that she knew wasn't true. I'm.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2827914]Before seats, upgrades, etc, it was $650. Now the flight itinerary sucks. 1st stop Miami. 2nd stop Sao Paolo. And finally to Rio. 15 hours total. But I'm a cheap ass when it comes to flights. LOL. I did see a flight with a direct flight from Miami but it was around $1,300. This is in September, so well in advance.[/QUOTE]American from Lass Vegas $575 + $60 for the seat 14 hours, 1 short stop September 5th then decide when to go to Rio after I see Sao. And maybe Goiania.

For the veteran mongers that have traveled to Thailand and Brazil, which country wins as the greatest mongering Destination in the world. You have to count service, looks, beach in the day, and sucos bars vs thai food. Add it all up in a pot and what country comes out on top.

For those who like the ruivas (redheads) "Luna Kim" (a. K. a. Sophia) is back advertising. I rated her a 7 when I saw her:

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-luna-kim[/URL]

And for those who like the big booty branca, porn star type "Charlotte Gaucha" is back too. Took her in her butt hole at Quatro por Quatro when she used to post up there. And she tried to tell me she's all natural. Right!

[URL]https://www.rioencontro.com.br/charlotte-gaucha/[/URL]

I would love to try "Afrodite" (Luna Kim often advertises here as well):

[URL]https://www.riosexsite.com/acompanhante/Afrodite[/URL]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2828521]For the veteran mongers that have traveled to Thailand and Brazil, which country wins as the greatest mongering Destination in the world. You have to count service, looks, beach in the day, and sucos bars vs thai food. Add it all up in a pot and what country comes out on top.[/QUOTE]Why versus only Thai food? Pattaya has people from all over the world and people from different countries open restaurants there with their homeland food. There is English, Italian, Indian, Swedish, Greek, Mexican, Arabic, Chinese, Korean, American, etc. Plus you can get fresh suco on every corner!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2828669]For those who like the ruivas (redheads) "Luna Kim" (a. K. a. Sophia) is back advertising. I rated her a 7 when I saw her:

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-luna-kim[/URL]

And for those who like the big booty branca, porn star type "Charlotte Gaucha" is back too. Took her in her butt hole at Quatro por Quatro when she used to post up there. And she tried to tell me she's all natural. Right!

[URL]https://www.rioencontro.com.br/charlotte-gaucha/[/URL]

I would love to try "Afrodite" (Luna Kim often advertises here as well):

[URL]https://www.riosexsite.com/acompanhante/Afrodite[/URL][/QUOTE]Is Luna Kim Asian by any chance too?

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2828748]Is Luna Kim Asian by any chance too?[/QUOTE]What would make you think that? She's a pale, redheaded, branca who has gone by "Sophia" in the past. And that butt hole of hers is some kind of [B]tight[/B] too! Hahaha!

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2828521]For the veteran mongers that have traveled to Thailand and Brazil, which country wins as the greatest mongering Destination in the world. You have to count service, looks, beach in the day, and sucos bars vs thai food. Add it all up in a pot and what country comes out on top.[/QUOTE]Well, Thailand is a big country, but Pattaya is what every man must visit at least once in their lifetime. Punter or not.

My last Pattaya visit was quite a while ago, but from what I understand it hasn't changed. And Pattaya is a sight to behold. It's a 24/7, in-your-face, open-air brothel.

And like Mr. E noted, the food choices in Pattaya are plentiful. In terms of food (and not just Thai food, you name it, it's there) I think Pattaya is superior to anywhere in Brazil.

For beach, you need to go elsewhere. The ocean in Pattaya is dirty. You have to take a ferry to a nearby island, which cuts into your limited vacation time. For ocean you'll need to go to Hua Hin, Koh Samui or Phuket. Each of those destinations has their own mongering scenes, although they're nothing like Pattaya. Well, there is nothing like Pattaya in the whole world, LOL.

Looks are in the eye of beholder. The hotel situation is better / cheaper in Thailand. Service is fine in both countries, but Thailand has an edge.

Mongering in Brazil is always behind closed doors and considerably more discreet than anywhere in Thailand. Yet, there are plenty of choices, and you won't be bored. Mongering in Brazil is currently cheaper on general, but the multitude of services offered in Thailand (BJ bars, soapies, street walkers) is superior.

I declare my beloved Brazil a winner in this duel for reasons that include but extend far beyond mongering. Not clear cut, though.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2828521]For the veteran mongers that have traveled to Thailand and Brazil, which country wins as the greatest mongering Destination in the world. You have to count service, looks, beach in the day, and sucos bars vs thai food. Add it all up in a pot and what country comes out on top.[/QUOTE]TjBrazil, It is no contest. BKK & Pat are in a league of their own when it comes to the best remaining whoring destinations of the world.

Nowhere else in the world can you roll out of your hotel at almost any hour and be surrounded (30 city blocks x 10 city blocks) by thousands of girls, 100's & 100's of naughty massage parlors, BJ bars, go go's, nightclubs a AND of course hundreds of SW's all out in the open in plain sight for all to see. Nobody forgets their first night on Walking Street because it is that amazing.

Add to that relatively inexpensive 5 star and 4 star lodging, great cuisine! And for the most part a violent crime free city environment and you know this is a one of kind destination.

So why am I wrapping up another 6th week trip to SP, which also happens to be my 5th visit since covid. Simple: I am enjoying the novelty of shagging Brazilian girls, although sooner or later I know I will return to Asia for a taste test comparison.

Rankings wise I rate Sao Paula and Jakarta about even. Like SP, Jakarta brothels and bars are very discrete from the outside but behind the front doors, things get pretty wild fast. BBFS is common in Jakarta. More common than in Thailand and definitely more common than in SP. KKK. Jakarta Hotels are newer and more spiffy. Jakarta is relatively safe, the local food is good, and quality international food is readily available. Sexually, I think Jakarta girls, on average, are better than Thai girls and more exotic than Brazilian girls. It all comes down to what you want.

So my Rankings are:

#1 BKK.

#2. Pat.

#3+4. SP + Jakarta tie.

#5+6. RJ or Phuket depending on if a beach is important to you. If beaches matter. Phuket tops RJ. If you don't give a fuck about beaches RJ tops Phuket. But a good time can be had in either place.

#7. Phnom Penh wonderful girls with offbeat personalities especially if you like cute spinners. Bareback? Don't make me laugh.

#8. Makati. I used to love this place, or rather its girls, but I am afraid to go back and see what's become of it since covid. I do know 1 thing: go go bar prices have gone through the roof.

#9+10. Oh yeah, I forgot about Colombia. It is on the top 10 list somewhere, but I have not been there in over 20 years, and I am sure a lot has changed. I remember my last visit when I just got sick of Colombian BS, and I never went back. By contrast I really like the Brazilian people and think they are fine. Still, I had some great times in Cartagena, Bogota, Popayan and various other towns and the girls were very sexy. So, Colombia ranks.

RIP: Singapore, Hong Kong.

Beaches are important to me, so should I just go to Phuket for my entire stay, and do they have a hooker beach in Phuket like Rio used too, so I can see their bodies with no deception like Tijuana. I really miss having a hooker beach. Are the waves ok size so I can rent a boogie board.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2828150]American from Lass Vegas $575 + $60 for the seat 14 hours, 1 short stop September 5th then decide when to go to Rio after I see Sao. And maybe Goiania.[/QUOTE][URL]https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-latam-new-routes/?utm_source=TPG%20Curated%20Aviation%20Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7098485&utm_usr=f7847bb5d8baf39dc9fa962227871e5d77f84fc1d234fca02bf4d20cc8f47e5a[/URL]

"To date, the partnership has enabled the two airlines to debut five new routes — Orlando to Bogota, [B]Los Angeles to Sao Paulo[/B], Miami to Medellin, [B]New York to Rio de Janeiro[/B], and Atlanta to Cartagena. More are expected to be in the works".

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2829071]TjBrazil, It is no contest. BKK & Pat are in a league of their own when it comes to the best remaining whoring destinations of the world.

Nowhere else in the world can you roll out of your hotel at almost any hour and be surrounded (30 city blocks x 10 city blocks) by thousands of girls, 100's & 100's of naughty massage parlors, BJ bars, go go's, nightclubs a AND of course hundreds of SW's all out in the open in plain sight for all to see. Nobody forgets their first night on Walking Street because it is that amazing.

Add to that relatively inexpensive 5 star and 4 star lodging, great cuisine! And for the most part a violent crime free city environment and you know this is a one of kind destination.

So why am I wrapping up another 6th week trip to SP, which also happens to be my 5th visit since covid. Simple: I am enjoying the novelty of shagging Brazilian girls, although sooner or later I know I will return to Asia for a taste test comparison..[/QUOTE]The question is how attractive are these girls after you roll out of bad at all hours. Are they favela quality or 8's?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2829071]......RIP: Singapore, Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]Buenos Aires, Chang Ping.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2829111]Beaches are important to me, so should I just go to Phuket for my entire stay, and do they have a hooker beach in Phuket like Rio used too, so I can see their bodies with no deception like Tijuana. I really miss having a hooker beach. Are the waves ok size so I can rent a boogie board.[/QUOTE]I think the answer depends on how long you plan to visit Thailand. Assuming you have 2 weeks or longer to spend in country and that you want to relax on a couple beautiful, tropical beaches without forgoing the girls or bringing one along, kkk /555, I suggest taking a 5 to 7 day side trip to Phuket in the middle of your visit and bookend your trip with BKK and Pattaya. But whatever you do, do not skip BKK or Pattaya! We are talking about the greatest red light districts in the known universe. Ha Ha Ha.

Patong Beach is the main beach town town in Phuket. Bang La Road is Phuket's version of Pattaya's infamous Walking Street. It is not even close, but this is where you will probably want to stay on the island to take advantage of the nightlife. Rent a motor scooter so you can visit a few more beautiful nearby beaches during the day. Most of the west coast Phuket beaches are sheltered and protected by a reef and so the water is usually smooth as a mirror and visibility is pretty good. Air temp 95, water temp 90, humidity 90%. My favorite beaches are Kata noi, Karon, Kamala and Surin (a little wave action here).

Have a great trip.

Me: I went to Bomboa last night and bumped into one of my favorite girls from my last trip. What a passionate reunion night that turned out to be. God, I love boate girls!

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2829111]Beaches are important to me, so should I just go to Phuket for my entire stay, and do they have a hooker beach in Phuket like Rio used too, so I can see their bodies with no deception like Tijuana. I really miss having a hooker beach. Are the waves ok size so I can rent a boogie board.[/QUOTE]No there is no hooker beach unless you count all the hookers lined up on the sidewalk in front of the beach (called the Coconut Bar). So I guess there is a hooker beach, but that is in Pattaya, not Phuket and there are a couple hundred chicks in the night, but only a few during the day.

Thai people do not generally go to the beach in the day time. They go at night. If they do go in the day then they usually do not wear bikinis, but wear shorts and a tshirt. Phuket beaches are not exactly oil paintings and it is an overpriced tourist destination.

The beach pictures are of a recent trip to Samui. (Other pics of Pattaya ferry and beach map of the island). The beaches there were nice, but the mongering bars were not near the beach. I had a chick with me anyway though. You would need to rent a motorbike and I think the bars are only open at night.

My recommendation is to go to Pattaya and take the ferry 45 minutes to the island for $1. You can bring a chick with you. I will usually go in the morning on the 10 am ferry and come back on the 5 pm ferry. You can also spend the night on the island as many Chinese people do.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2829275]I suggest taking a 5 to 7 day side trip to Phuket in the middle of your visit and bookend your trip with BKK and Pattaya. [/QUOTE]That's what I did the last time I went to Thailand, and it was great! In fact, I met one of the hottest girls I have ever met anywhere right there in Phuket. She was an Amerasian / Eurasian Thai girl who reminded me of Jennifer Anniston, but with dark hair. Now imagine that! She was just gorgeous (hottest one I had over the entire near month-long trip) and maybe somebody's trophy wife by now.

Me: You guys who love Thailand the most can keep your flat ass "pooyings" over there. I'll take a curvy, cornholing, Carioca over that every single time ahahaha!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2829299]No there is no hooker beach unless you count all the hookers lined up on the sidewalk in front of the beach (called the Coconut Bar). So I guess there is a hooker beach, but that is in Pattaya, not Phuket and there are a couple hundred chicks in the night, but only a few during the day.

Thai people do not generally go to the beach in the day time. They go at night. If they do go in the day then they usually do not wear bikinis, but wear shorts and a tshirt. Phuket beaches are not exactly oil paintings and it is an overpriced tourist destination.

The beach pictures are of a recent trip to Samui. (Other pics of Pattaya ferry and beach map of the island). The beaches there were nice, but the mongering bars were not near the beach. I had a chick with me anyway though. You would need to rent a motorbike and I think the bars are only open at night.

My recommendation is to go to Pattaya and take the ferry 45 minutes to the island for $1. You can bring a chick with you. I will usually go in the morning on the 10 am ferry and come back on the 5 pm ferry. You can also spend the night on the island as many Chinese people do.[/QUOTE]Do Thais not go to the beach because they don't want to get darker. Supposedly they have colorism amongst each other. Is that true. It doesn't seem to be a problem in Rio.

It's a shame that thailand which is full of hookers doesn't have their beaches full of hookers in the daytime in bikinis. Seems counter intuitive and strange.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2829130][URL]https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-latam-new-routes/?utm_source=TPG%20Curated%20Aviation%20Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7098485&utm_usr=f7847bb5d8baf39dc9fa962227871e5d77f84fc1d234fca02bf4d20cc8f47e5a[/URL]

"To date, the partnership has enabled the two airlines to debut five new routes Orlando to Bogota, [B]Los Angeles to Sao Paulo[/B], Miami to Medellin, [B]New York to Rio de Janeiro[/B], and Atlanta to Cartagena. More are expected to be in the works".[/QUOTE]Delta is scheduled to start doing JFK to GIG in December. I checked January and it starts from $626 RT. Quite reasonable for a nonstop, and I don't think it'll last.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2829304]Me: You guys who love Thailand the most can keep your flat ass "pooyings" over there.[/QUOTE]Man you have said that before and I swear you must have been going around with your eyes closed looking for flat booty chicks on purpose. Thailand is not the Philippines. One picture of the chick that I was messing with during covid who works at a hair salon will dispel that lie.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2829275]I think the answer depends on how long you plan to visit Thailand. Assuming you have 2 weeks or longer to spend in country and that you want to relax on a couple beautiful, tropical beaches without forgoing the girls or bringing one along, kkk /555, I suggest taking a 5 to 7 day side trip to Phuket in the middle of your visit and bookend your trip with BKK and Pattaya. But whatever you do, do not skip BKK or Pattaya! We are talking about the greatest red light districts in the known universe. Ha Ha Ha.

Patong Beach is the main beach town town in Phuket. Bang La Road is Phuket's version of Pattaya's infamous Walking Street. It is not even close, but this is where you will probably want to stay on the island to take advantage of the nightlife. Rent a motor scooter so you can visit a few more beautiful nearby beaches during the day. Most of the west coast Phuket beaches are sheltered and protected by a reef and so the water is usually smooth as a mirror and visibility is pretty good. Air temp 95, water temp 90, humidity 90%. My favorite beaches are Kata noi, Karon, Kamala and Surin (a little wave action here).

Have a great trip.

Me: I went to Bomboa last night and bumped into one of my favorite girls from my last trip. What a passionate reunion night that turned out to be. God, I love boate girls![/QUOTE]Maybe I've missed something when I visited, but I wouldn't even consider Thailand if not for Bangkok and Pattaya. There are beaches in Brazil that blow Phuket and Koh Samui out of the water. The flying time is shorter, Brazileiras are hotter, and even for Asian lovers, you can find them in Brazil, too. Now, if I was already in Thailand, there is nothing wrong with Samui or Phucket or Hua Hin, but flying all the way down there for the beach and some action (which is wildly inferior to BKK and Pattaya) -- fuck no.

There are also Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai in the north that I've never been to but hope to visit one day. No beach, though.

How much does Luba Kim charge?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2829299]No there is no hooker beach unless you count all the hookers lined up on the sidewalk in front of the beach (called the Coconut Bar). So I guess there is a hooker beach, but that is in Pattaya, not Phuket and there are a couple hundred chicks in the night, but only a few during the day.

Thai people do not generally go to the beach in the day time. They go at night. If they do go in the day then they usually do not wear bikinis, but wear shorts and a tshirt. Phuket beaches are not exactly oil paintings and it is an overpriced tourist destination.

The beach pictures are of a recent trip to Samui. (Other pics of Pattaya ferry and beach map of the island). The beaches there were nice, but the mongering bars were not near the beach. I had a chick with me anyway though. You would need to rent a motorbike and I think the bars are only open at night.

My recommendation is to go to Pattaya and take the ferry 45 minutes to the island for $1. You can bring a chick with you. I will usually go in the morning on the 10 am ferry and come back on the 5 pm ferry. You can also spend the night on the island as many Chinese people do.[/QUOTE]I endorse Mr E's suggestion to take the ferry to Koh Larn off Pattaya, I enjoyed a beach on that island last month. But Thais are really into social media photos and so I saw lots of sweet young things being photographed on the beach in bikinis by their boyfriends and girlfriends, so there can be plenty of eye candy to enjoy.

Anyone partake with the twins? I'm a sick bastard. LOL.

Messaged with Tamara. Safe to say these photos are a bit older. But hard to pass up a unique opportunity.

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-tamara-e-thais-gemeas[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2829391]Maybe I've missed something when I visited, but I wouldn't even consider Thailand if not for Bangkok and Pattaya. There are beaches in Brazil that blow Phuket and Koh Samui out of the water. The flying time is shorter, Brazileiras are hotter, and even for Asian lovers, you can find them in Brazil, too. Now, if I was already in Thailand, there is nothing wrong with Samui or Phucket or Hua Hin, but flying all the way down there for the beach and some action (which is wildly inferior to BKK and Pattaya) -- fuck no.

There are also Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai in the north that I've never been to but hope to visit one day. No beach, though.[/QUOTE]People are saying pattayas beaches are filthy. What beach in Brazil blows out Phuket? Ipanema to Leme beach is pretty much the same except for the size of waves. Are you talking a different city in Brazil. I'm up for checking out a different beach for a couple days when I go in a few months.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2829387]Man you have said that before and I swear you must have been going around with your eyes closed looking for flat booty chicks on purpose. Thailand is not the Philippines. One picture of the chick that I was messing with during covid who works at a hair salon will dispel that lie.[/QUOTE]Any Thai or asian woman with a decent booty is going to be fairly chunky. Typically they will have big thighs only. No hate, but It's just their body type.

Brazilian on the other hand can be tight body with a phatty.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2829387]Man you have said that before and I swear you must have been going around with your eyes closed looking for flat booty chicks on purpose. Thailand is not the Philippines. One picture of the chick that I was messing with during covid who works at a hair salon will dispel that lie.[/QUOTE]That's right! I said "outliars" LOL! Because anyone who has been to Thailand and throughout Asia knows good and damn well what I'm saying is true. In fact, one of the reasons that many mongers like Thailand is because of all of the "spinners" to be found there. So, sure you can post a photo of this one or that one with a phat "bum bum". But that's an everyday truth in Brazil bruh, and not just an "outliar" photo misleading the people! LMFAO! What kind of thread is this anyway? About Brazil or a public service announcement promoting sex tourism in Thailand? Get with the program LOL!

People who like Asian girls can go talk about that elsewhere.

What I want to know is where the legit beautiful Bi Negras or Mulatas are at? Chocolate or caramel lesbianism (where I jump in between them periodically) is my hunger. Where shall it be fed in Rio?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2829304]

Me: You guys who love Thailand the most can keep your flat ass "pooyings" over there. I'll take a curvy, cornholing, Carioca over that every single time ahahaha![/QUOTE]Yes, we certainly have different tastes in women. I like them slender and natural. One might think I am at a disadvantage in Brazil, but I manage to find plenty of attractive girls that have exactly what I like. For example, just last night, I stopped by Scandallo around 9:30 pm and stayed until 1 am. Not a large crowd, but plenty of attractive girls of all shapes and sizes. I bided my time for 40 minutes or so while nursing a drink, and I said Hi to a few girls I knew from past liaisons, until I met a very friendly, slender RJ girl with small "A" cups, slender arms and thighs, and a nice little ass. We clicked in the room like destiny had brought us together and she really turned me on, KKK, but not much new to report there. Nearly every chick I have been with on this trip and previous trips have turned me on good. The only downside is most Brazilian girls I have been with insist on a covered vaginal sex. What a shame.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2829474]People are saying pattayas beaches are filthy. What beach in Brazil blows out Phuket?.[/QUOTE]Many good beaches in Brazil but they are all in the northeast. The February when covid started me and my girlfriend took a road trip and hit most of them from Natal to Salvador. Pattaya beaches are filthy. I literally almost threw up one morning just looking at it. When my mom and aunts came to visit we were walking down the sidewalk on the beach and as I put my foot down I squished a rat that was crossing my path. When I lifted my foot he kept running. I had on flip flops.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2829474]People are saying pattayas beaches are filthy. What beach in Brazil blows out Phuket? Ipanema to Leme beach is pretty much the same except for the size of waves. Are you talking a different city in Brazil. I'm up for checking out a different beach for a couple days when I go in a few months.[/QUOTE]I would say some beaches of Buzios (3 hrs north of Rio) if not most, are more beautiful than what I saw on Phuket. Same goes for many beaches of Angra dos Reis (3 hours south). Lopes Mendez on Ilha Grande is simply spectacular, although it's not easy to get to. One day I took a boat tour from Ilha Grande and they took us to several beaches, and I would describe every beach as being better than Phuket.

Then I remember a gorgeous beach in Cambariu, Santa Catarina. Another one in Salvador, Bahia, which was simply amazing. I'm not good with the names, but it's hard not to find a nice beach in Brazil if you stay close to the coast.

Then there are beaches I know by "reputation" only. Like Mr. E said some of the best beaches are in the Northeast. Another city for excellent beaches is Florianapolis, which is in the south.

Now a disclaimer: I don't hate Phuket. I actually had a good time there, but I don't remember my mind being blown by the beaches or natural beauty or mongering opportunities. I remember crowds everywhere and not much more. Then again, I only stayed there for 4 days, so I'm sure I missed plenty. I'm just saying, I don't see Phuket as a single travel destination, especially if you're based in the States. If you go to Thailand anyway, then Phuket makes sense.

Obviously, I am biased, but rio.

Best mix from super blond loira blond (barra) to mulatta and negra (rest of rio, especially vm, centro, and the hidden gems are in niteroi).

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2829610]People who like Asian girls can go talk about that elsewhere.

What I want to know is where the legit beautiful Bi Negras or Mulatas are at? Chocolate or caramel lesbianism (where I jump in between them periodically) is my hunger. Where shall it be fed in Rio?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2829387]Man you have said that before and I swear you must have been going around with your eyes closed looking for flat booty chicks on purpose. Thailand is not the Philippines. One picture of the chick that I was messing with during covid who works at a hair salon will dispel that lie.[/QUOTE]Sorry buddy, that is not an example of anything. That is horrible haha. Completely disproportionate, unnatural and fat. That is also a freak of nature or freak of science if you see it in Thailand. All the more power to you if you like that we all have our own tastes, but that is a uncorn in Thailand (thankfully). Filipinas tend to have more curves than Thai women too, although its not a major difference they are small people. In all honesty, big curves tends to mean FAT in Asia. Thats not to say you don't get the hour glass figures and perky ass and tits, but Asian women are just not built like that. Other than the African American guys who seem to be into the bigger girls, the only action they are getting are from the price conscious pensioners who are less worried about looks. 99 times out of 100, if she has a big ass, the ***** is a diabetes candidate.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2828521]For the veteran mongers that have traveled to Thailand and Brazil, which country wins as the greatest mongering Destination in the world. You have to count service, looks, beach in the day, and sucos bars vs thai food. Add it all up in a pot and what country comes out on top.[/QUOTE]A lot of reports I read in this section about Thailand seem to be based on intel and experiences pre-Covid. Covid has changed things everywhere, and the Asian mongering scene has not recovered either. If we are talking Thailand in 2005 still, then it was the best destination in the world. If we are talking Thailand today? It would struggle to make my top 5 at present.

Thailand has fallen off a cliff and its changing rapidly. The quality of the women has declined noticeably for one, as has service quality. Bars and gogos are really struggling to attract girls, and that has only driven their wages and barfines up even further. Its so bad now that in certain bars, and even the hardcore areas of Pattaya like the famous Soi 6, a lot of girls are only working purely for drinks. I have no idea who would want to travel to Thailand to speak broken english with some fat bar girl, but this is where things are at there. A lot of women have moved online too, and the tourist demographic is changing with a ot more Koreans and Indians only adding demand.

The cost of sex in Thailand is more expensive for women who on average are not as attractive as Latinas and service wise are not on the same level. If its sex alone now, Thailand is not even top 10 in the world anymore that's how badly service has fallen off a cliff there. The days of the long time, overnight GFE is rapidly declining too.

Hotels and safety. Its all Thailand wins out on. Brazil has it on women, cost of sex / value, food and things to do outside drinking at a beach bar all day. People can talk about the beaches of Thailand all they want, you need to travel to get to them. Brazil has amazing beaches too, which you need to travel to. But you can't tell me that Barra or even Ipanema are ugly beaches. I would much rather walk down that strip than ANY strip in Thailand. Any day.

Brazilian cities are like European cities surrounded by slums. Thailand for the most part is one big strip mall / industrial hellscape in-between hotels, resorts, beaches and shacks / developments.

Next week I'll finally get to return to Rio, can't wait.

Has anyone got any recent info on Dolce Vita, Kalabria etc?

Only visited DV once last trip and never tried Kalabria. Going to focus on them more this time around.

Also what's everyone's favourite burger place in Rio? I always eat healthy at home, so looking forward to eating some junk food.

I have traveled for about 6 years constantly as a DN all over the world and enjoyed the mongering session from each places.

Just arrived in Rio 3 days ago for the first time. Went out yesterday Friday at around 8 pm and hit up 502,4 x4, and mosaico.

Overall I was in general disappointed by the quantity of and quality of the girls. But surprised by the quality of the interaction.

In general I think Brazilians are more fun to chill and hangout with vs fast and money hungry Colombians or Asian girls. So it really depends on what you are seeking. For a cheap fast pop and go I would say Colombia is better but I think Rio girls are more fun and actually enjoy sex instead of only money grabbing. But don't be mistaken they are definitely in it for the money too.

502 - Small bar with some a large range of girls. From 2-3 all the way to 7-8. About 10 girls. An hour session in a suite with a 19 yo fun girl was about 350 r + 100 r tip. I don't recommend the suite as it is not a suite by any stretch of the imagination, so don't expect anything remotely fancy. Just a super simple room. But then again I don't know what the cabin option is like. A cabin might be just a closet based on what a suite was. The suite is 100 r more expensive.

4 x4 - Two level, weird setup. They might be owned by different owner or something. But the place is generally clean and nice. Again a large range of girls. 4-7 and about 15 girls at around 11 pm. Didn't session but just drank and sat around. A lot slower and emptier than I thought it would be for a Friday night.

Mosaico. Went at around 1 am. Around 10 girls while I was there ranging from 3-7. Didn't session. Just chilled for a bit to check the scene.

I was unimpressed by the quantity of and quality of the girls in Rio but the one that I did session with was fun and GFE and was willing to please.

I'll check out some other places tonight, Saturday and maybe there will be more chicas. Recommendation welcomed.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2829777]Obviously, I am biased, but rio.

Best mix from super blond loira blond (barra) to mulatta and negra (rest of rio, especially vm, centro, and the hidden gems are in niteroi).[/QUOTE]This is probably a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway. As I get ready for my first trip to Brazil, I'm shopping online. Looks will always be subjective. But I'm not totally enamored with the darker skinned Brazillians. Don't get me wrong. My last few chicas in both Tijuana and Medellin were very dark. (Cuban and Colombian, respectively but could very well be mistaken for African) But the Brazillan morenas just aren't super attractive to me. I imagine in person, I'll feel very differently. LOL (Don't flame me. It's just subjective).

But Vagabundo, when you say blonde in Barra, is that a general statement? Is it a ymmv case or is it just a much higher percentage? In my perusing of various sites, thr Brazillian blondes are jaw dropping to me.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2829444]Anyone partake with the twins? I'm a sick bastard....[/QUOTE]They are in SP. Clinica Prime has a pair of twins working there too but these two are hotter based on the picture.

[QUOTE=WhiteLime;2829999]I have traveled for about 6 years constantly as a DN all over the world and enjoyed the mongering session from each places.

Just arrived in Rio 3 days ago for the first time. Went out yesterday Friday at around 8 pm and hit up 502,4 x4, and mosaico.

Overall I was in general disappointed by the quantity of and quality of the girls. But surprised by the quality of the interaction.

In general I think Brazilians are more fun to chill and hangout with vs fast and money hungry Colombians or Asian girls. So it really depends on what you are seeking. For a cheap fast pop and go I would say Colombia is better but I think Rio girls are more fun and actually enjoy sex instead of only money grabbing. But don't be mistaken they are definitely in it for the money too.[/QUOTE]Interesting and helpful review and perspective. As I prepare for my 1st trip, the quality of time is important to me. Colombia has set a high bar in looks. But I'm very much into the quality of time vs hunting a 10. I look forward to hearing more.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2830113]They are in SP. Clinica Prime has a pair of twins working there too but these two are hotter based on the picture.[/QUOTE]Their site says Rio. And my communication with them has been for Rio. Am I missing something?

[QUOTE=WhiteLime;2829999]I have traveled for about 6 years constantly as a DN all over the world and enjoyed the mongering session from each places.

Just arrived in Rio 3 days ago for the first time. Went out yesterday Friday at around 8 pm and hit up 502,4 x4, and mosaico.

Overall I was in general disappointed by the quantity of and quality of the girls. But surprised by the quality of the interaction.

In general I think Brazilians are more fun to chill and hangout with vs fast and money hungry Colombians or Asian girls. So it really depends on what you are seeking. For a cheap fast pop and go I would say Colombia is better but I think Rio girls are more fun and actually enjoy sex instead of only money grabbing. But don't be mistaken they are definitely in it for the money too.

502 - Small bar with some a large range of girls. From 2-3 all the way to 7-8. About 10 girls. An hour session in a suite with a 19 yo fun girl was about 350 r + 100 r tip. I don't recommend the suite as it is not a suite by any stretch of the imagination, so don't expect anything remotely fancy. Just a super simple room. But then again I don't know what the cabin option is like. A cabin might be just a closet based on what a suite was. The suite is 100 r more expensive.

4 x4 - Two level, weird setup. They might be owned by different owner or something. But the place is generally clean and nice. Again a large range of girls. 4-7 and about 15 girls at around 11 pm. Didn't session but just drank and sat around. A lot slower and emptier than I thought it would be for a Friday night.

Mosaico. Went at around 1 am. Around 10 girls while I was there ranging from 3-7. Didn't session. Just chilled for a bit to check the scene.

I was unimpressed by the quantity of and quality of the girls in Rio but the one that I did session with was fun and GFE and was willing to please.

I'll check out some other places tonight, Saturday and maybe there will be more chicas. Recommendation welcomed.[/QUOTE]I know I was in the minority but didn't care for 4 x4 and the other two you mention didn't appeal. Went to Monte Carlo only because it was close and wow we had an amazing time. Very pretty girls mostly 7 and up. And one girl was def a 9+ for me. This was a couple months back. I'the say if you didn't care for those three Monte Carlo might be more your speed.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2830017]In my perusing of various sites, thr Brazillian blondes are jaw dropping to me.[/QUOTE]Remember those are pharmacy blondes. When you arrive walk around and count how many blond men you see. You will probably end up with a total of zero.

Thinking of a last minute trip to Rio. 95% sure I am going to head over this week for 10 days. I searched Google but want to ask those that know, is this a good time of year to visit?

Side note: to the guys that hit my dm for questions I did get back to some of you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2830190]Remember those are pharmacy blondes. When you arrive walk around and count how many blond men you see. You will probably end up with a total of zero.[/QUOTE]I promise you, I won't be counting blond men. LOL. Obvious typo but couldn't resist. Haha Yeah, I'm guessing blondes aren't plentiful. But the blonde eye candy seemed to be lighter skinned and seemed to be more attractive. It's somewhat perplexing because I'm often hunting the darker skinned chicas elsewhere. I've read alot about the variety in Rio and I have no doubt: I will be with girls that I just have no business being with.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2829370] [QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2829299] ... [b]Thai people do not generally go to the beach in the day time. [/b]They go at night. If they do go in the day then they usually do not wear bikinis, but wear shorts and a tshirt. Phuket beaches are not exactly oil paintings and it is an overpriced tourist destination. ... [/QUOTE]

[b]Do Thais not go to the beach because they don't want to get darker.[/b] Supposedly they have colorism amongst each other. Is that true. It doesn't seem to be a problem in Rio.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I experienced the same thing, many full moons ago in Thailand and most recently in Phils.

In Subic City/Olongapo/Barrio Barretto and Cebu City (Phils), Macatan beach, I couldn't stop laughing at many of the young and older adults (some almost fully dressed in the sun...kkkk!), all trying to take in a beautiful hot day at the beach, by hiding in any shaded nook or cranny they could find. It was just hilarious. Picturesque sandy beaches, blue waters and blue skies, while most of the locals are hiding from the sun, because they don't want to get any darker then they already are.

On Alona Beach (Bohol/Cebu, Philippines), it was the exact same thing with my Filipina girl (and the locals), ducking and hiding out of the sun. Well, I guess that's just more beach for the me, the tourists and the kids, who were a joy to watch, still playing on the beach without such "sun phobia" hangups.

Meanwhile back in Brazil, beautiful bouncing bronzina bodies everywhere. Just different cultures at work!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2829777]Obviously, I am biased, but rio.

Best mix from super blond loira blond (barra) to mulatta and negra (rest of rio, especially vm, centro, and the hidden gems are in niteroi).[/QUOTE]Any tips to really know if the girls before hand really are bi and will gladly have lesbian sex? Wouldn't be shocked if 2 girls say "yes we are bisexual", then when the moment comes are barely holding their breaths or doing anything. Fell for that in the United States, and don't feel like falling for that again. I take my lesbianism seriously, LOL. My ex GF was bi so yes. I'm hooked, LOL.

And also where in Rio can I find reliable and SAFE Viagra or Cialis? Don't want want dangerous imitators. Which pharmacies in which areas in Rio do people with money go to get theirs?

Also should I take condoms to Rio? Or are they good to buy over there? Condom suggestions? Anything better than Trojan because those thick Trojans are horrible.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2830150]Their site says Rio. ...[/QUOTE]My bad, I did not look carefully. I thought it was SP because the highlighted text.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2830221]I promise you, I won't be counting blond men. LOL. Obvious typo but couldn't resist. Haha Yeah, I'm guessing blondes aren't plentiful. But the blonde eye candy seemed to be lighter skinned and seemed to be more attractive. It's somewhat perplexing because I'm often hunting the darker skinned chicas elsewhere. I've read alot about the variety in Rio and I have no doubt: I will be with girls that I just have no business being with.[/QUOTE]I have been with many [B]natural[/B] blondes in Brazil. They had their "roots" if you will in the south of the country and tended to have some German ancestry. It's a large, diverse country of 100's of millions of people living there. So you're bound to find some who didn't get it out of a bottle. A good friend of mine is a natural Brazilian blonde of Italian ancestry. Blonde hair. Blue eyes. Ivory white skin. Bright pink butt hole. Salute!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2830364]My bad, I did not look carefully. I thought it was SP because the highlighted text.[/QUOTE]No worries, man. I'm a newbie in Brazil and I appreciate your response regardless!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2830387]I have been with many [B]natural[/B] blondes in Brazil. They had their "roots" if you will in the south of the country and tended to have some German ancestry. It's a large, diverse country of 100's of millions of people living there. So you're bound to find some who didn't get it out of a bottle. A good friend of mine is a natural Brazilian blonde of Italian ancestry. Blonde hair. Blue eyes. Ivory white skin. Bright pink butt hole. Salute![/QUOTE]Yep, for a milky white blonds, go to Santa Catarina.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2818451]Classico Beach Club / Perola Negra is better than scandallo because it has the same girls ON THE BEACH.

As for the talent, see [URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/.[/URL].

On any given day, you will find those girls at the pool at Transamerica or the other condos in barra, including classico beach club.

Just contact the girls on barravips and ask them to classico.

All of a sudden you are bobby kennedy junior here to prove vaccines are not needed and to breed another generation.[/QUOTE]Finally useful information. Now to find the best (semi affordable) places to stay nearby. Maybe cancel Copacabana Airbnb.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2830627]Finally useful information. Now to find the best (semi affordable) places to stay nearby. Maybe cancel Copacabana Airbnb.[/QUOTE]Which is preferable Airbnb or hotels.

[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2829505]Any Thai or asian woman with a decent booty is going to be fairly chunky. Typically they will have big thighs only. No hate, but It's just their body type.

Brazilian on the other hand can be tight body with a phatty.[/QUOTE]I like Brazilians very much. They maintain good fitness.

[QUOTE=AjayLost;2830862]Which is preferable Airbnb or hotels.[/QUOTE]That's like asking which is preferable -- a cat or a dog.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2810395]Since time immemorial. In one of my favorite movies, "Life," Claude goes with a hooker in a bar for $2. He comes back and tells Ray he went with her because the girl said her mom needed an operation. They took up a collection at the church but were still short. Ray said, "So they were $2 short huh?[/QUOTE]LOL I was out with a girl in Medellin in between rounds. When I said, babe I am not going to pay you the next time but we can have nice dinners etc. Blah blah. An hour or so later, her mom was admitted to the hospital with seizures. She apologized she wanted to go see her. I asked how bad was it? She just happened to have a photo on her phone of some crazy woman actually in a grand mal seizure in the hospital bed. (her mom?) Yea. Just at the right time also. I tried not to laugh. She was well prepared for an exit.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2831007]LOL I was out with a girl in Medellin in between rounds. When I said, babe I am not going to pay you the next time but we can have nice dinners etc. Blah blah. An hour or so later, her mom was admitted to the hospital with seizures. She apologized she wanted to go see her. I asked how bad was it? She just happened to have a photo on her phone of some crazy woman actually in a grand mal seizure in the hospital bed. (her mom?) Yea. Just at the right time also. I tried not to laugh. She was well prepared for an exit.[/QUOTE]I had a girl ask for an iPhone for her mom in Medellin. Brazen for sure. Delete but had a good laugh.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2831007]LOL I was out with a girl in Medellin in between rounds. When I said, babe I am not going to pay you the next time but we can have nice dinners etc. Blah blah. An hour or so later, her mom was admitted to the hospital with seizures. She apologized she wanted to go see her. I asked how bad was it? She just happened to have a photo on her phone of some crazy woman actually in a grand mal seizure in the hospital bed. (her mom?) Yea. Just at the right time also. I tried not to laugh. She was well prepared for an exit.[/QUOTE]Sometimes when I think how crazy and ridiculous these requests are, I remember the guy caesar from 90 day who sent 40 k to the Ukrainian girl over the course of 2 years and never met her in person. He told everyone at the nail salon they were in love and going to get married. LOL.

What is the oldest woman anyone here has had sex with that was at least 50. If she was over 60 please share your story.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2830948]That's like asking which is preferable -- a cat or a dog.[/QUOTE]Just want to know about the affordable places. Which might be better in terms of stay.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2831230]Sometimes when I think how crazy and ridiculous these requests are, I remember the guy caesar from 90 day who sent 40 k to the Ukrainian girl over the course of 2 years and never met her in person. He told everyone at the nail salon they were in love and going to get married. LOL.[/QUOTE]Man, I don't want to reveal too much about my real life. But this is unbelievably common. It happens disproportionately to the elderly, for sure. But no demographic is immune. There is a point that, in our brain, the expected gain (be it a beautiful Ukrainian, lottery, etc.) outweighs any common sense. And I promise you, it happens far more than you think. I've worked cases like this for the last 15 or 20 years. The sad part is that these people never see what's right in front of them. I can tell you heartbreaking stories where people have lost everything along with adding truly insurnountable debt and they call me every name in the book for doubting their sweet Katrina. Nonetheless, it's a good reminder because I see it happen far too often.

[QUOTE=AjayLost;2831351]Just want to know about the affordable places. Which might be better in terms of stay.[/QUOTE]It's not an easy question. If you like to have more space, vacation rentals get you more bang for your buck because hotel suites are universally costly.

If things like service and predictability are more important, stay at a hotel.

Both, hotels and airbnbs, may or may not be affordable or guest-friendly, so you must read airbnb listings carefully. As for GF-friendly hotels, there is plenty of info in this thread.

For limited budget, look for hotels or rentals 2-3 blocks away from the beach, they tend to be considerably cheaper. Also, if you're not crazy about the beach, stay at a Centro hotel instead of Copacabana.

But nowadays we're in the revenge travel mode, so expect to pay more than you would've a few years ago.

Av gastao senges 395.

Mediterraneo.

Ie, Transamerica.

Is actually pretty good cost benefit.

Location, etc, is optimal, wh.

[QUOTE=AjayLost;2831351]Just want to know about the affordable places. Which might be better in terms of stay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2831375]Man, I don't want to reveal too much about my real life. But this is unbelievably common. It happens disproportionately to the elderly, for sure. But no demographic is immune. There is a point that, in our brain, the expected gain (be it a beautiful Ukrainian, lottery, etc.) outweighs any common sense. And I promise you, it happens far more than you think. I've worked cases like this for the last 15 or 20 years. The sad part is that these people never see what's right in front of them. I can tell you heartbreaking stories where people have lost everything along with adding truly insurnountable debt and they call me every name in the book for doubting their sweet Katrina. Nonetheless, it's a good reminder because I see it happen far too often.[/QUOTE]Are you a detective. I saw one old lady lost 500 k because some 21 yo stripper guy said he was in love. They never met either. It's very sad.

My opinion of Which is preferable Airbnb or hotels.

I much prefer an Airbnb for the money you get way more space I get two rooms, have a room for on my luggage and clothes in a room to sleep in and a whole big living room with Netflix so I have my shows to watch English on the big TV. And if you get tired of eating out, you have a kitchen cook in. I always ask ahead of time if I can have a guest over. I'm just honest and say I'm a single guy traveling by myself if I meet someone if it's OK to bring it back to the room and I've always been told have a great time. LOL and that way I never have issues. And Rio it's definitely not guarantee you can bring a guest back to the hotel room.

[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2831461]My opinion of Which is preferable Airbnb or hotels.

I much prefer an Airbnb for the money you get way more space I get two rooms, have a room for on my luggage and clothes in a room to sleep in and a whole big living room with Netflix so I have my shows to watch English on the big TV. And if you get tired of eating out, you have a kitchen cook in. I always ask ahead of time if I can have a guest over. I'm just honest and say I'm a single guy traveling by myself if I meet someone if it's OK to bring it back to the room and I've always been told have a great time. LOL and that way I never have issues. And Rio it's definitely not guarantee you can bring a guest back to the hotel room.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your details.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2831324]What is the oldest woman anyone here has had sex with that was at least 50. If she was over 60 please share your story.[/QUOTE]Ok, when I was a young (24 year old) lieutenant in the US air force this hot looking German woman with big tits seduced me in our apartment complex in Northern California. She was married to CIA guy so she said. Man, she was a lot of fun but we always had to hurry because she didn't know when her hubby was coming home. One time we fucked in the sauna next to the pool. She said she was 65 but had a body like 35. Fond memories. I also did a 50-something professor woman (a carioca) in Rio who wanted me to move in with her in Rio. I was in my 30's then. She took me to Caligula (if that place is still around) and she got me off on the dance floor surrounded by other people dancing. Wild! Lastly I was doing a Panamanian chick with big tits in Sacramento, California who had to be in her 50's and she was insatiable. Now I only do chicks under 30 except my main squeeze in Dominican Republic who is 32 years old, drop dead gorgeous and 42 F Cup. Cheers.

So I was reading GPArena. I speak / read perfect Spanish so it wasn't hard at all to understand those forums (plus Google Translate helped).

Figures I keep seeing the theme of girls in places like Perola Negra being way too restrictive. Girls not doing anal. Covered BJs. No GFE / PSA. Girls lying about what they do. Girls leaving early after one nut. Etc. I mean, is it that the hotter the girl, the more restrictions? On GPArena, so far I am reading that girls in 4 x4 and Perola Negra are restrictive. Haven't gotten to reading on the other termas yet. Considering you pay more for those girls, that doesn't sound good. Everyone here praises Brazilian girls being sex machines. Yet I don't want to find out that only the 5's snd 6's are like that because I don't rock with 5's and 6's (every guy is different).

So is what GParena saying true? Are these higher end termas with hotties who basically won't do shit? Experiences please. I will be in Rio in 3 weeks. Perhaps everyone here has a different / better perspective.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2831480]So I was reading GPArena. I speak / read perfect Spanish so it wasn't hard at all to understand those forums (plus Google Translate helped).

Figures I keep seeing the theme of girls in places like Perola Negra being way too restrictive. Girls not doing anal. Covered BJs. No GFE / PSA. Girls lying about what they do. Girls leaving early after one nut. Etc. I mean, is it that the hotter the girl, the more restrictions? On GPArena, so far I am reading that girls in 4 x4 and Perola Negra are restrictive. Haven't gotten to reading on the other termas yet. Considering you pay more for those girls, that doesn't sound good. Everyone here praises Brazilian girls being sex machines. Yet I don't want to find out that only the 5's snd 6's are like that because I don't rock with 5's and 6's (every guy is different).

So is what GParena saying true? Are these higher end termas with hotties who basically won't do shit? Experiences please. I will be in Rio in 3 weeks. Perhaps everyone here has a different / better perspective.[/QUOTE]Of course these things change over time. So with that standard YMMV caveat, Monte Carlo was GREAT in March. Beautiful slim girls (but w bunda) and great service with one exception. Guess we saw 6 or 7 girls between the three of us and I personally had 4. I was very happy to ecstatic with all four. One was a true ten optics for me but insisted CBG. All the other girls 7- 8 and up were BBBJ. I spoke to them in Portuguese on the floor before going to the room and confirmed it after the first CBJ. One girl was a bit mechanical but all the others were great, with Valeska and Carol sex starved goddesses who I won't forget soon. Both rode me (and my buddies) like they hadn’t had sex in weeks. Truly passionate stuff. I travel all over and was very surprised.

I can't say about 4 x4 we were not impressed with the girls there. But I can say that MC was pretty girls great service and BBBJ if you lay that line down before the room.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2831502]Of course these things change over time. So with that standard YMMV caveat, Monte Carlo was GREAT in March. [/QUOTE]This is where I value Vagabundo's posts. I wonder his latest toughts on higher end termas lately, and if what I read in GPArena coincides with what he sees. I mean I'll find out myself soon, and will report it. But I wouldn't want to find girls who lie and are terrible just because they're a hottie and charge 600-ish Reals for an hour.

I am going to look for negras and mulatas mostly and it does look like they tend to be less expensive than the whiter girls. But I will also want to try white hotties, and find an ultimate PSE threesome with them (am looking to do the same with mulatas). But if the termas girls aren't down for that, then meh. I'm capable to hunt prives but I would think higher end termas have girls who would not only be beauty queens, but who give exceptional service.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2831502]I can't say about 4 x4 we were not impressed with the girls there. But I can say that MC was pretty girls great service and BBBJ if you lay that line down before the room.[/QUOTE]Will look up Monte Carlo. Thoughts from anyone else of it? Prices lately?

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2831480]
Figures I keep seeing the theme of girls in places like Perola Negra being way too restrictive. Girls not doing anal. Covered BJs. No GFE / PSA. Girls lying about what they do. Girls leaving early after one nut. Etc. I mean, is it that the hotter the girl, the more restrictions? On GPArena, so far I am reading that girls in 4 x4 and Perola Negra are restrictive. Haven't gotten to reading on the other termas yet. Considering you pay more for those girls, that doesn't sound good. Everyone here praises Brazilian girls being sex machines. Yet I don't want to find out that only the 5's snd 6's are like that because I don't rock with 5's and 6's (every guy is different).

So is what GParena saying true? Are these higher end termas with hotties who basically won't do shit? Experiences please. I will be in Rio in 3 weeks. Perhaps everyone here has a different / better perspective.[/QUOTE]Aristhotle, I can't vouch for RJ Termas girls, but I just wrapped up a 6 week trip to SP where I hung out with a good mix of Boate & Clinica girls and I am happy to report that not 1 girl offered me a CBJ or performed sub-par in bed AND a healthy majority my girls simply blew me away in bed as per usual in Brazil. KKK. So, I would not be concerned about the online reviews. I think you will receive the same quality service that you were used to receiving on previous trips. The girls may be different, but nothing has changed.

Depends on the girl.

IMHO, always focus on the prives first for actual sex.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2831480]So I was reading GPArena. I speak / read perfect Spanish so it wasn't hard at all to understand those forums (plus Google Translate helped).

Figures I keep seeing the theme of girls in places like Perola Negra being way too restrictive. Girls not doing anal. Covered BJs. No GFE / PSA. Girls lying about what they do. Girls leaving early after one nut. Etc. I mean, is it that the hotter the girl, the more restrictions? On GPArena, so far I am reading that girls in 4 x4 and Perola Negra are restrictive. Haven't gotten to reading on the other termas yet. Considering you pay more for those girls, that doesn't sound good. Everyone here praises Brazilian girls being sex machines. Yet I don't want to find out that only the 5's snd 6's are like that because I don't rock with 5's and 6's (every guy is different).

So is what GParena saying true? Are these higher end termas with hotties who basically won't do shit? Experiences please. I will be in Rio in 3 weeks. Perhaps everyone here has a different / better perspective.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2831456]Are you a detective. I saw one old lady lost 500 k because some 21 yo stripper guy said he was in love. They never met either. It's very sad.[/QUOTE]Sometimes its just atonement; self inflicted punishment for wrong committed in younger days.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2831456]Are you a detective. I saw one old lady lost 500 k because some 21 yo stripper guy said he was in love. They never met either. It's very sad.[/QUOTE]Forgive me for being crypyic. I don't want to seem like an asshole. But I'm also cautious about personal info too. No, I'm not a detective, at least not in the law enforcement realm. But over the last dozen or so years, I've had case work off and on with these tragic stories. I've seen dumb people and reasonably intelligent people get taken for a wild ride.

I saw Turgid's comment about self-inflicted wounds. My opinion, based on my experience: in many (not all) cases, there's an element of greed. Often financial. And maybe there's an element of karma for past misdeeds. Who knows. But in every case, I would not say it was self-inflicted. At least not intentionally.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2826270]Monday.

7:23 PM, 6/12/2023: So the moves are get off your air plane, go to prive creampie a hoar, go to 4 x4 get numbers, go to ganjacoffeeshop Rua rezende, creampie hoars in sheik, or lips.

7:25 PM, 6/12/2023 What is ganja coffee shop?

7:35 PM, 6/12/2023: Google.

7:35 PM, 6/12/2023: Rua rezende 82.

7:38 PM, 6/12/2023: Ok.

9:21 PM, 6/12/2023: Does it make me a heretic to laugh at this?

[URL]https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk[/URL][/QUOTE]Are the links, photos for real? [URL]espacoterapias.com.br[/URL]/ massagistas / because I won't have time to meet them all. I am still 2 months away,. Yet todays research and your posts have blown my mind. LOL.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2831598]Aristhotle, I can't vouch for RJ Termas girls, but I just wrapped up a 6 week trip to SP where I hung out with a good mix of Boate & Clinica girls and I am happy to report that not 1 girl offered me a CBJ or performed sub-par in bed AND a healthy majority my girls simply blew me away in bed as per usual in Brazil. KKK. So, I would not be concerned about the online reviews. I think you will receive the same quality service that you were used to receiving on previous trips. The girls may be different, but nothing has changed.[/QUOTE]While I do tend to avoid girls that have negative reviews on GP Arena, I agree about the gist of your post. Even a "tourist fuck" in Brazil is kind of OK compared to other countries, and the overwhelming majority of girls sincerely try to please. That said, one has to spell out exactly what they expect beforehand and get a direct response. I mean, it's their bodies, and they're completely within their rights to reject anal, CIM, or even BBBJ. No reason to be shy -- there is nothing these girls haven't heard before.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2831731]While I do tend to avoid girls that have negative reviews on GP Arena, I agree about the gist of your post. Even a "tourist fuck" in Brazil is kind of OK compared to other countries, and the overwhelming majority of girls sincerely try to please. That said, one has to spell out exactly what they expect beforehand and get a direct response. I mean, it's their bodies, and they're completely within their rights to reject anal, CIM, or even BBBJ. No reason to be shy -- there is nothing these girls haven't heard before.[/QUOTE]A good tactic with a terma girl is to ask her if she's "completa". That normally comes with BBBJ / CIM and anal sex. But like you say don't be shy! If there's something you want then ask! They've heard it all and then some!

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2831511]... it does look like they tend to be less expensive than the whiter girls. ...[/QUOTE]The price is fixed at termas or prives.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2831480]... Perhaps everyone here has a different / better perspective.[/QUOTE]I look at it as a number. Brasileiras on average perform better but it is not 100% because it is an average and GPArena posts you mentioned is a proof. I only have maybe 20% that blew me away but elsewhere it maybe 10%. 20% is twice as good as 10%. But if you take the available quantity into account, 10% of a larger quantity can be more than 20% of a smaller quantity. This matters when you stay months in a city.

A person X that never negotiates in advance may get restrictive service 80% of the time while another person Z always negotiates in advance gets restrictive service 20% of the time. The 20% may just be girls perform the service but not up to par of what is expected. X probably will not be satisfied while Z is very satisfied. I think that is one reason where you see the divergent views. A good example is Casarao in SP where one member has posted you won't get BBBJ 90% of the times if you don't negotiate, and I basically agree based on my own experience.

Just when I felt comfortable and not asked about service, I would get a bad one. I have posted this before. I have been in the room in Clinica and the girl did not do BBBJ so I terminated the session and asked for another. The new girl came in while I was naked and asked for 100 more for BBBJ. I had the same girl at Clinica Prime told me she would not kiss the second time when I asked but later I remembered I had her before and she kissed and I did not ask the first time. I also had girls that didn't come out to greet me in the clinica because they knew I asked for BBBJ.

The highest price place in Brazil is Scandallo. I never had a girl that did not provide BBBJ and I thought it was automatic and not something I have to ask. But you will see it is not true if you read some trip reports from new mongers.

Are any termas in Rio open on sundays? If not are any prives in Copacabana open on this day?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2831758]A good tactic with a terma girl is to ask her if she's "completa". That normally comes with BBBJ / CIM and anal sex. But like you say don't be shy! If there's something you want then ask! They've heard it all and then some![/QUOTE]I use the term "servicio completo".

[QUOTE=Nounce;2831945]I look at it as a number. Brasileiras on average perform better but it is not 100% because it is an average and GPArena posts you mentioned is a proof. I only have maybe 20% that blew me away but elsewhere it maybe 10%. 20% is twice as good as 10%. But if you take the available quantity into account, 10% of a larger quantity can be more than 20% of a smaller quantity. This matters when you stay months in a city.

A person X that never negotiates in advance may get restrictive service 80% of the time while another person Z always negotiates in advance gets restrictive service 20% of the time. The 20% may just be girls perform the service but not up to par of what is expected. X probably will not be satisfied while Z is very satisfied. I think that is one reason where you see the divergent views. A good example is Casarao in SP where one member has posted you won't get BBBJ 90% of the times if you don't negotiate, and I basically agree based on my own experience.

Just when I felt comfortable and not asked about service, I would get a bad one. I have posted this before. I have been in the room in Clinica and the girl did not do BBBJ so I terminated the session and asked for another. The new girl came in while I was naked and asked for 100 more for BBBJ. I had the same girl at Clinica Prime told me she would not kiss the second time when I asked but later I remembered I had her before and she kissed and I did not ask the first time. I also had girls that didn't come out to greet me in the clinica because they knew I asked for BBBJ.

The highest price place in Brazil is Scandallo. I never had a girl that did not provide BBBJ and I thought it was automatic and not something I have to ask. But you will see it is not true if you read some trip reports from new mongers.[/QUOTE]I've had consistently fun times at termas. If you are getting bad sessions there it's you not them. If you talk to them before going up and they let you touch them without issues, it will be good. If they give you shit about touching them then don't take them.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2832039]Are any termas in Rio open on sundays? If not are any prives in Copacabana open on this day?[/QUOTE]I recommend you get numbers during the week to use for Saturday and Sunday for sure. If the girls had a slow week and need shopping money they will usually come on the weekend.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2832039]Are any termas in Rio open on sundays? If not are any prives in Copacabana open on this day?[/QUOTE]I used to try to get girls to come before or after work during the weekday but the flake rate is high. They are usually tired. Weekends are way better for them. You can tell them to pick a time since their off.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2832039]Are any termas in Rio open on sundays? If not are any prives in Copacabana open on this day?[/QUOTE]Termas -- no. Prives, I THINK no.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2831758]A good tactic with a terma girl is to ask her if she's "completa". That normally comes with BBBJ / CIM and anal sex. But like you say don't be shy! If there's something you want then ask! They've heard it all and then some![/QUOTE]Yeah, but "completa" is just a start for me. After she says yes, I'll ask her about each service I require separately.

I took a termas girl to my hotel room on a couple of occasions, and she wouldn't let me finger her boceta. My first thought was OK, whatever, but then I remembered I already had my initial interview at the Termas and it wasn't a problem! So I gently reminded her, and the objection was lifted, LOL.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2832047]I use the term "servicio completo".[/QUOTE]Or if you wanted to say it in Portuguese, you could say servico completo with the see in servico as see cedilla sounding as s.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2832039]Are any termas in Rio open on sundays? If not are any prives in Copacabana open on this day?[/QUOTE]None of the termas I know are open Sunday. Dolce Vita (club not Terma) opens at 11 Pm as I recall. But I was there at midnight on a Saturday and not a soul in the club. No lie. Went to Kalabria nearby and there were fat chicks in bikinis outside. Walked past.

For my money Seeking Arrangements is the play for Sunday. I admit that I am very good at that scene and lucked out a bit but my Sunday was spent with a 9. 5 across the board. Total unicorn. But I had a few 8's in the wings ready to go.

Or go Terma on Fri / Sat and get a girls number for Sunday. Either way Sunday is not a club day.

The best option for Sundays is VM, Vilma Mimosa.

As the music says:

"Demoro, demoro, vamo lá!

Vila Mimosa qualquer DIA tamo aí.

Demoro, demoro, vamo lá.

Ih! Vila Mimosa qualquer DIA tamo aí.

Eu sou mc serginho do morro do jacaré. "

Eu sou mc serginho do morro do jacar. "

Hi, I have RTFFed, however I could not find this information. In termas, such as Monte Carlo, 4 x4, Solarium etc. Prices for 1 h private room with girl are fixed, or I need to negotiate with girl each time I want to go private with her?

[QUOTE=BartSimpson5;2832255]Hi, I have RTFFed, however I could not find this information. In termas, such as Monte Carlo, 4 x4, Solarium etc. Prices for 1 h private room with girl are fixed, or I need to negotiate with girl each time I want to go private with her?[/QUOTE]Sorry don't recall the others. My report out from March has some info on Monte Carlo pricing and a lot of good detail on the venue and the girls. If you search "Monte" you will find other more recent reports confirming girl quality.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2797689&highlight=Monte[/URL]#post2797689. Towards the bottom of that page.

In brief, we first took the bigger rooms (but not big!) and hour time. That adds up. Later we took half hours and cabine rooms which are quite tiny but who gives a fuck. Overall it's not cheap by Brazilian standards but the quality is there and honesty it's just fun to hang out and drink and pick which girl your going to take. It's not a kid in candy store like Scandallo but on a small scale it's fun to hang out in a robe with some girl stroking your thigh and drinking a beer while you decide if she's the one.

[QUOTE=BartSimpson5;2832255]Hi, I have RTFFed, however I could not find this information. In termas, such as Monte Carlo, 4 x4, Solarium etc. Prices for 1 h private room with girl are fixed, or I need to negotiate with girl each time I want to go private with her?[/QUOTE]You will probably find the prices on the gp guia or gp arena forums. Just use Google chrome and translate the information into English, you could probably work it out from the numbers obviously but the reviews might be helpful too.

[QUOTE=BartSimpson5;2832255]Hi, I have RTFFed, however I could not find this information. In termas, such as Monte Carlo, 4 x4, Solarium etc. Prices for 1 h private room with girl are fixed, or I need to negotiate with girl each time I want to go private with her?[/QUOTE]Prices are fixed and you pay when you exit the terma. Prices vary based on time, size of the room, and the number of girls, but you don't need to negotiate the price for service. You should, of course, validate what service you'll be receiving.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;2832453]Prices are fixed and you pay when you exit the terma. Prices vary based on time, size of the room, and the number of girls, but you don't need to negotiate the price for service. You should, of course, validate what service you'll be receiving.[/QUOTE]Yes. This is a nice thing about Terma vs German FKK. In German FKK girls set the price and depending on the cartel in a given club they ostracize the lower price girls and force prices up over time. Pricing is fully transparent at the Terma.

Monte Carlo has a nice card right when you check in where they explain the various options. But as I say the girl will go for a suite and an hour unless you say you want a cabine and a half. They are very nice about no grudge or change in service for shorter time or smaller room in my experience.

I arrived at prive Eden, Copacabana 583, apt 401 at 5:30 Monday. Rang the bell. Eight girls were present of which I fancied two: Larangeira (dark) and Rubi (redhead) or some similar names, I don't remember correctly. I chose the last one (carioca 31). 150 are for half hour. BBBJ and CFS. All good. An ok place, economic, fast and easy. Resonably good looking girls, althoug nothing special, of course.

I'm planning a trip and hesitating between Brazil and Colombia. Knowing that I have a small budget, which of the 2 are you guys recommending me? I'm planning to stay for 3 weeks and have a budget of about $2,000 USD all inclusive, excluding airfare. Thank in advance.

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[QUOTE=PabloGn;2832834]I'm planning a trip and hesitating between Brazil and Colombia. Knowing that I have a small budget, which of the 2 are you guys recommending me? I'm planning to stay for 3 weeks and have a budget of about $2,000 USD all inclusive, excluding airfare. Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]2000 dollars for a 3-week trip? My recommendation is that you stay home.

You are looking at about 50 bucks a day after you pay for your Hotel / Airbnb. You basically have 2 options.

1) If you have a deep roster of friends, family and non-working girls, then you can "Ball on a Budget". Take girls on cheap local dates that only cost you a few dollars and hope you get laid.

2) Do the backpacker method of staying at a Hostel and hope you score other backpackers.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2832980]2000 dollars for a 3-week trip? My recommendation is that you stay home.[/QUOTE]That was my sentiment. Better to wait and keep saving in order to have a much better overall experience and not feel like you've got to be penny pinching the whole time!

[QUOTE=PabloGn;2832834]I'm planning a trip and hesitating between Brazil and Colombia. Knowing that I have a small budget, which of the 2 are you guys recommending me? I'm planning to stay for 3 weeks and have a budget of about $2,000 USD all inclusive, excluding airfare. Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]With that budget you would be much better off making your trip 1 week instead of 3. Trying to stretch $2000 into 3 weeks is going to be frustrating.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2832980]2000 dollars for a 3-week trip? My recommendation is that you stay home.

You are looking at about 50 bucks a day after you pay for your Hotel / Airbnb. You basically have 2 options.

1) If you have a deep roster of friends, family and non-working girls, then you can "Ball on a Budget". Take girls on cheap local dates that only cost you a few dollars and hope you get laid.

2) Do the backpacker method of staying at a Hostel and hope you score other backpackers.[/QUOTE]You'll say that the average price for 1 hour with an independent is how much? In Colombia I think it's possible for $50 or less, but Brazil seems much more expensive.

[QUOTE=PabloGn;2832834]I'm planning a trip and hesitating between Brazil and Colombia. Knowing that I have a small budget, which of the 2 are you guys recommending me? I'm planning to stay for 3 weeks and have a budget of about $2,000 USD all inclusive, excluding airfare. Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]I am going to take a slightly different stance on this. In Sao Paulo some clinics are around $35 for half hour full service. If a person did not plan on playing every day and did pinch pennys it could be done. Maybe plan on 1 week instead of two weeks or as stay in a hostel for several of the days. Hotels can be booked for less than $100 per night. I stayed at Airbnb for $24 per night my last trip. So, $700 for hotels for a week, leaves $1300 for food and play. A person can eat for under $20 per day so even if you use $300 for the food that leaves $1000. $140 per day for entertainment is doable. Especially if again you do not plan every day and can double up the money for a special treat.

I do agree with the last post that it can cost quite a bit more to have a comfortable good time. My point is not to argue against that but to offer an alternative.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2832466]Monte Carlo has a nice card right when you check in where they explain the various options. But as I say the girl will go for a suite and an hour unless you say you want a cabine and a half. They are very nice about no grudge or change in service for shorter time or smaller room in my experience.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information. Though my main goal in Brazil is finding top notch 9 or 10 Negras and Mulatas for PSE threesomes (if anyone has info for that, let me know), I do want to attempt one PSE threesome with two Top Notch (no basic girls for me) white Brazilian girls.

Is Montle Carlo that place to find that? Are the girls the same as the hyped up Scandallos in Sao Paulo?

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2833036]I am going to take a slightly different stance on this. In Sao Paulo some clinics are around $35 for half hour full service. If a person did not plan on playing every day and did pinch pennys it could be done. Maybe plan on 1 week instead of two weeks or as stay in a hostel for several of the days. Hotels can be booked for less than $100 per night. I stayed at Airbnb for $24 per night my last trip. So, $700 for hotels for a week, leaves $1300 for food and play. A person can eat for under $20 per day so even if you use $300 for the food that leaves $1000. $140 per day for entertainment is doable. Especially if again you do not plan every day and can double up the money for a special treat.

I do agree with the last post that it can cost quite a bit more to have a comfortable good time. My point is not to argue against that but to offer an alternative.[/QUOTE]I will be in Sao Paulo 3-5 days and Rio 5-8. I could afford Scandallo but I think there are a lot of wealthy elites driving the prices there which is ok and will attract more girls.

Currently in Medellin a 9 or 10 will charge $200 usd and up. (not all night) A La Isla girl similar or a little less. Seems that in 3 weeks you will have many more things to do than "mongering". Rio is the place for lots of other activities. And the outdoors seems much nicer. (never been) time will tell. I hope Scandallo is 1/2 as good as the hype. That includes the pricing.

[QUOTE=PabloGn;2832834]...I'm planning to stay for 3 weeks and have a budget of about $2,000 USD all inclusive, excluding airfare. ...[/QUOTE]It can easily be done in both places. Your choices will be limited to lower price places but there are still plenty of them in both places. It can be dangerous when you want to go cheap in your situation. Your problem is that you don't know the area and don't know the language so you need a guide. My suggestion is to chat with Woodman to ask about his tour in Bogata thread. That will make your life much easier.

You can do it for 2000 usd for 3 weeks.

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[QUOTE=PabloGn;2832834]I'm planning a trip and hesitating between Brazil and Colombia. Knowing that I have a small budget, which of the 2 are you guys recommending me? I'm planning to stay for 3 weeks and have a budget of about $2,000 USD all inclusive, excluding airfare. Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PabloGn;2832834]I'm planning a trip and hesitating between Brazil and Colombia. Knowing that I have a small budget, which of the 2 are you guys recommending me? I'm planning to stay for 3 weeks and have a budget of about $2,000 USD all inclusive, excluding airfare. Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]I don't think Brazil is an option on that budget. Accommodation costs will eat a lot of it.

$300-$400 a day is the rough number. That is including hotels but excluding flights. Less than that and the quality of your experience is going to be lower.

I would rather go for a shorter trip if the budget is that tight.

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I forgot to describe myself and my preference to serve as a reference point in the last post so I'll do it here.

I am a 32 yo. Southeast Asian 5'6 170 lb well built and works-out 4-5 times a week. I prefer natural non-MILF fit new / girl next door type chicas under 25 yo instead of harden pros. I have been traveling consistency for 6 years and have visited too many places to list. I make mid 6 figures and don't might spending money but hate wasting money / time. For the most part I am over the sex just for sex sake and have no problem saying no to free / nearly sex. At this point and prefer some actual connection chemistry with the girl before going to town.

Since my last report I visited a few other places. Eden, Darkroom, Casablanca, Marrakech, Kalabria.

Some notes about each.

Eden. Went at around 4 pm. I was not impressed by the girls as they seem like new MILF with body damage that turned me off. I think the price is 200 for an hour or somewhere around there. (wouldn't go again).

Darkroom. It is a journey and adventure to get there. A fancy apartment in centro where you have to sign in, elevator up to floor 20 and up some more stairs to get to an apartment room that was converted to a shady joint. I was also not impressed by the any of the girls but since it was such a journey to get to I couldn't leave without a session. I paid for an hour we was out of there in less than 30 mins. Price was 150 r / hour and I gave the poor girl 100 r as tip and anal. Girl quality is around 3-5 (wouldn't go again).

Casablanca. I was disappointed with the level of quality of the girls for a highend place. 100 r entrance with two drinks. None of the girls was worth the 500 r. Average girls trying to be highend.

Marrakech. Exactly the same as Casablanca with the same level of girls. (might pop by again if I get bored).

Kalabria. An interesting one that doesn't actually pickup until 1-2 am. I like the staff here. Chill people no entrance fees a few actually spoke english. The girls are average with most being a step down from Casablanca / Marrakech though there seems to be some that knows that so some 6-7 also mix themselves into the 4-5 bunch to stand out. There were two that I would bang if I was in the mood. Price around 3-500 r + plus room fee? Depending on the girl I guess (might pop again by if I get bored).

Dolce Vita. The girls here were actually pretty good. This is where most of the tourist in Copa normally go and the girls knows it. Price seems to be around 500 r. Drink and entrance are expensive. I don't remember the price of the drink by entrance was like 50 r-70 r. It was 50 r the first time but 70 r the second. Normal rio scams? I would say if you are willing to spend 500 r this is the best place to go to pick up a 6-7 girl since I would put quite a few of them in that category. (Will pop again by if I get bored and horny in copa).

Up house / bar (s) - This place is in Lapa and I am surprised there aren't more reports on it. Its surrounded by normal club with people so it is not as shady. Decent place to go and have a drink and chill in Lapa. The girls range from 4-7. This place is open super late and on weekends so it is actually a good option. Price is around 300 r / hour. (would pop again by if I find myself in Lapa).

I went to club 502 in centro a few more time and I will have to say that the place has grown on me. The club give a lot of freedom to the girls and the girls are actually pretty chill and fun to have a drink with. Opens at 2 pm. I went at around 8-10 pm. It closes at 12. And there are actually some 6-7 here that are my type. Session and price actually match quality and venue instead of being overly expensive. (probably pop by later to bang a girl there next week).

I am also temped by some of the freelancers on skook and other sites. Just haven't pulled the trigger and hate getting disappointed by a catfish. I also have expensive shit with me so not sure it is worth any of the risk. I have about another month here in Rio and plan on checking out Monte Carlos and Centaurus one of these days.

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Earlier this week, Vagabundo went to centro and bought generic PReP at the Pacheco farmacia at Rio Branco 156, and generic cialis and viagra at are. Uruguiana 19.

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I just checked with Valeska at Monte Carlo and she is still working there. Can't miss her. She is school girl petite but with a nice Brazilian bunda (proportionally smaller of course). She is a sweet girl (24 I think), short hair for a brasileira down to her shoulders, kisses passionately and fucks like a demon. I really liked her.

Ps tiny A cup so if small tits are ur thing u are set. Or vice versa. For me I prefer them bigger but was a great tradeoff for the rest.

[QUOTE=PabloGn;2832834]I'm planning a trip and hesitating between Brazil and Colombia. Knowing that I have a small budget, which of the 2 are you guys recommending me? I'm planning to stay for 3 weeks and have a budget of about $2,000 USD all inclusive, excluding airfare. Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]$2000 usd is doable in Brazil if you don't include accommodation / food and it is just for the girls. Colombia would be easier on that budget since accommodation / food / girls are cheaper as a whole.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2833323]$2000 usd is doable in Brazil if you don't include accommodation / food and it is just for the girls.[/QUOTE]Which means it isn't doable since over a three week period you need to eat and have a place to stay! It would be best to save some more money to cover food and lodging.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2833259]Brilliant in the Basics. Safety PReP, generic cialis viagra.

Earlier this week, Vagabundo went to centro and bought generic PReP at the Pacheco farmacia at Rio Branco 156, and generic cialis and viagra at are. Uruguiana 19.

Play safe, men.[/QUOTE]What do you say when you want generic PReP? And do you need to do any tests or do they just give it to you?

It would improve the quality of the posts when one can post a real life example to backup a general statement, like where do you eat. ISG is not letting me upload pictures so you will have to look it up. All numbers are in local currency unless it is indicated. I have pictures of everything I posted here.

Search the term "All Sabor Gastronmico" or "Zanetti Grill" in Rio on google map. These are buffet places you pay by weight. It's about R$5 per 100 gm. Most places have some selection of churrascaria and sushi. According to VB1, 4 x4 owner eats at Zanetti Grill. I ate there too and it's good. These are places that office workers and average locals go to eat.


In Centro, 100 ML of orange juice that is squeezed in front of you is about $R1 so 500 ML is $R5. Many firemen and policemen eat breakfast at places that cost less than R$10. On the street, it's as low as R$2. You can get pretty decent lunch for between R$8 and R$15 if you don't mind buying from food truck.

If one cooks, 1 KG of fillet mignon can be bought for less than US $ 13. Steak is half of that.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2833541]It would improve the quality of the posts when one can post a real life example to backup a general statement, like where do you eat. ISG is not letting me upload pictures so you will have to look it up. All numbers are in local currency unless it is indicated. I have pictures of everything I posted here.

Search the term "All Sabor Gastronmico" or "Zanetti Grill" in Rio on google map. These are buffet places you pay by weight. It's about R$5 per 100 gm. Most places have some selection of churrascaria and sushi. According to VB1, 4 x4 owner eats at Zanetti Grill. I ate there too and it's good. These are places that office workers and average locals go to eat.


In Centro, 100 ML of orange juice that is squeezed in front of you is about $R1 so 500 ML is $R5. Many firemen and policemen eat breakfast at places that cost less than R$10. On the street, it's as low as R$2. You can get pretty decent lunch for between R$8 and R$15 if you don't mind buying from food truck.

If one cooks, 1 KG of fillet mignon can be bought for less than US $ 13. Steak is half of that.[/QUOTE]In Copa these kilo places ain't cheap. Same goes for juice stands. I agree you can eat and stay very cheaply in Rio, as long as you stay away from Zona Sul.

A 3-week room in a decent Centro hotel can be had for around $30 per day, maybe even less if you walk in without a reservation and pay cash. Using prives instead of expensive termas and FLs can stretch the budget immensely.

But do you want to stay in Rio for 3 weeks away from Zona Sul? I don't know. Centro has its charm, but seriously, for 3 weeks I would never! Especially since it's dead on the weekends.

Alternatively, one could rent a small Airbnb studio in Copa and cook. Supermarkets aren't cheap either, but cooking beats restaurant bills. But then you'd have to go to Centro every day.

I don't know. Everyone has his own idea of a a perfect vacation, LOL.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2833576]...But do you want to stay in Rio for 3 weeks away from Zona Sul? I don't know. Centro has its charm, but seriously, for 3 weeks I would never! Especially since it's dead on the weekends.....[/QUOTE]You can stay near Lapa. Lots to do. It comes alive during weekend day and night. Walking distance to Centro. It just an option for someone on a budget. You can reverse commute too.

If one is on a budget but can't enjoy anything less than 4 x4, then it will not be doable if one wants to have sex everyday. There are mongers have a great time living in Centro both in Medellin and Rio.

[QUOTE=PabloGn;2832834]I'm planning a trip and hesitating between Brazil and Colombia. Knowing that I have a small budget, which of the 2 are you guys recommending me? I'm planning to stay for 3 weeks and have a budget of about $2,000 USD all inclusive, excluding airfare. Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]Lifestyle dictates what you would spend. I generally spend 3 weeks in Colombia. Swing from centro chicas to poblado instagram sugar babies all in a day. I typically end up spending about USD4. 5 k including food, accommodation, chicas, drinking, airfare.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2833576]Centro...Especially since it's dead on the weekends.[/QUOTE]Is centro dead on Saturday too or just on Sunday?

I have not seen Rio (nor Brazil). Perhaps someone who experienced both Medellin Centro and Rio Centro could give his thoughts on how does it compare.

In Med Centro, Saturday is a big shopping day, busiest and loudest day of the week, sometimes difficult to walk though the crowds without bumping shoulders. Biggest choice of SWs too for this reason, plenty of bars and clubs open until late in the area as well, since it's the party day.

Sunday is the hangover and family day, Centro mostly being a ghost town compared to Saturday, most shops closed, skeleton lineup in clubs and much lower numbers of SWs, most casas closed, not many people walking around. Although it picks up a bit on the afternoon and some tourists are visiting Plaza Botero. The shopping malls seem be where lots of locals go on Sundays, not even for a big shopping just to walk around or for a meal with family in a foodcourt, others travel out of the city.

What do Rio locals generally do on Saturday and Sunday?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2833651]You can stay near Lapa. Lots to do. It comes alive during weekend day and night. Walking distance to Centro. It just an option for someone on a budget. You can reverse commute too.

If one is on a budget but can't enjoy anything less than 4 x4, then it will not be doable if one wants to have sex everyday. There are mongers have a great time living in Centro both in Medellin and Rio.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Totally forgot about Lapa. A very fun neighborhood. Don't know if hotels / rentals are cheap, though. Food? Not sure.

Another option is Santa Teresa up the hill. I always enjoy spending a few hours there when in Rio. The views are to die for, and restaurants are cheap. A bit farther away, though.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2833821]Agreed. Totally forgot about Lapa. A very fun neighborhood. Don't know if hotels / rentals are cheap, though. Food? Not sure.

Another option is Santa Teresa up the hill. I always enjoy spending a few hours there when in Rio. The views are to die for, and restaurants are cheap. A bit farther away, though.[/QUOTE]Agreed, Rio is beautiful when you see it from up high. There is a Salina near the Aqueduct that should not cost more than US $20. I know there are places that cost R$30 a night here but these places are not online. There are enough food choices and many street food lining up at night in front of Aquaduct. The downside probably is the neighborhood is old and everything is a little rundown and not the most comfortable.

I always prefer the slowest form of transportation when I am alone so I see many different local things that a person moved by Uber won't see. I do it the same way even when my company is paying for everything. My company has a travel app and I can only reserve hotels from the app, most are better hotels for better security. One time I chose to buy camping gear to sleep in the office overlooking US embassy compound.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2833800]Is centro dead on Saturday too or just on Sunday?

I have not seen Rio (nor Brazil). Perhaps someone who experienced both Medellin Centro and Rio Centro could give his thoughts on how does it compare.

In Med Centro, Saturday is a big shopping day, busiest and loudest day of the week, sometimes difficult to walk though the crowds without bumping shoulders. Biggest choice of SWs too for this reason, plenty of bars and clubs open until late in the area as well, since it's the party day.

Sunday is the hangover and family day, Centro mostly being a ghost town compared to Saturday, most shops closed, skeleton lineup in clubs and much lower numbers of SWs, most casas closed, not many people walking around. Although it picks up a bit on the afternoon and some tourists are visiting Plaza Botero. The shopping malls seem be where lots of locals go on Sundays, not even for a big shopping just to walk around or for a meal with family in a foodcourt, others travel out of the city.

What do Rio locals generally do on Saturday and Sunday?[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Medellin, but the main difference I think, is Rio Centro is where people work, not live. Some shops and restaurants will be open (a girl once took me to a fantastic Centro restaurant on Saturday, but I don't remember the name). That said, unless there is a festa or some kind of event, weekends are pretty much a waste of time in Centro. But there are often some events, for example, there is Winter Carnival on July 16-17, just one week from now.

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Other than that, however, there isn't much to do, especially in terms of mongering.

Where to stay in centro, and gear list.

Senor nounce.

Good advice as always.

I have stayed in centro at the hotel Atlántico tower now closed on the darkside south of av pres vargas.

I bet some hotels in gamboa are cheap.

Catete is also good as the best monger ever stayed there.

He was a samba school photographer.

Staying in lapa near the inca cancer hospital / praca cruz vermelha, or even near to vm can be an option.

I stayed for weeks at a time in motel malaga near vm.

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BTW, vagabundo will pay local cash for those packs, laptop, phones or knifes. Crazy t at xes to get those item.

That list, right there is vagabundo's personally recommended packing list! And will get you a loyal wingman and guide for the best sex tour of Rio de Janeiro if you bring any and all of those items.

I also recommend shopping at decathlon stores in trail running but I can get that here.

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[URL]https://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-Google-Pixel-Commuter-Case/dp/B0C483NTWF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=34VG13XOTKM58&keywords=amazon[/URL]+pixel+7 a+otterbox+case&qid=1688925126&sprefix=amazon+pixel+7 a+otterbox+case%2 Caps%2 C257&sr=8-3.

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[URL]https://www.leatherman.com/skeletool-18.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2834126]Where to stay in centro, and gear list.
Love motels can be done for one living out of a backpack, like a combination of the grey 5-11 rush24, moab 10, moab 6, best laptop is mba m2, phone google fi, and knife leatherman skeletool, or lululemon brand abc pants and metalvent polo shirt, beige.
That list, right there is vagabundo's personally recommended packing list! And will get you a loyal wingman and guide for the best sex tour of Rio de Janeiro if you bring any and all of those items.

[URL]https://shop.lululemon.com/c/men-pants/_/N-7ubZ1z0xss9[/URL]

40 waist, 30 length, color beige.[/QUOTE]40 waist, 30 length?

No need to look for numbers.

Just ask for the size, 'as wide as you are tall. '.

Tenofovir.

[URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=tenofovir&oq=tenofovir[/URL]+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDI3 MjRqMGo3 qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.

No tests are needed.

Protip.

You need a cpf to get the lower rate. Ask the pharmacist to put in their cpf. That is jeitinho, ie, cheating all the stupid rules.

Just like decline the conversion when getting money out of bradesco.

[QUOTE=Jbloggs1;2833504]What do you say when you want generic PReP? And do you need to do any tests or do they just give it to you?[/QUOTE]

Usually to get PREP it is mandatory to do a HIV test first, which is for a good reason. If someone uses PREP and is already HIV positive it will limit treatment options of the actual disease.

I assume Vagabundo means that the place does not require you to do a test prior to purchase. Very questionable from a medical standpoint. Starting PREP without being 100% sure of negative status is just stupid.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2834233]Tenofovir.

[URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=tenofovir&oq=tenofovir[/URL]+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDI3 MjRqMGo3 qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.

No tests are needed.

Protip.

You need a cpf to get the lower rate. Ask the pharmacist to put in their cpf. That is jeitinho, ie, cheating all the stupid rules.

Just like decline the conversion when getting money out of bradesco.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the information.

[QUOTE=Safado007;2834431]Usually to get PREP it is mandatory to do a HIV test first, which is for a good reason. If someone uses PREP and is already HIV positive it will limit treatment options of the actual disease.

I assume Vagabundo means that the place does not require you to do a test prior to purchase. Very questionable from a medical standpoint. Starting PREP without being 100% sure of negative status is just stupid.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Safado007;2834431]Usually to get PREP it is mandatory to do a HIV test first, which is for a good reason. If someone uses PREP and is already HIV positive it will limit treatment options of the actual disease.

I assume Vagabundo means that the place does not require you to do a test prior to purchase. Very questionable from a medical standpoint. Starting PREP without being 100% sure of negative status is just stupid.[/QUOTE]A cheap and free PREP to reduce your risk is to just wash yourself with soap. Just having a circumcision alone will reduce your risk. Nothing will reduce your risk 100% but soap reduce risk by alot. PREP are mean for people who mistakenly inject themselves with HIV. The safety people said it do happen sometime. When I was work with HIV we has PreP on site for such an event.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2833821]Agreed. Totally forgot about Lapa. A very fun neighborhood. Don't know if hotels / rentals are cheap, though. Food? Not sure.

Another option is Santa Teresa up the hill. I always enjoy spending a few hours there when in Rio. The views are to die for, and restaurants are cheap. A bit farther away, though.[/QUOTE]There are some good airbnbs up in santa teresa with spectacular views although my only concern would be if Ubers would go there or have a hard time getting one to come. I know there are some good airbnbs in Vidigal down by the beach but the problem is alot of uber will cancel the trip once they notice it is near vidigal which makes it a nightmare to stay in.

I like staying near copa or ipa because it is walkable and fun to just go to random cafe / restaurant and get some fresh air in the beach. Easy to get around and live the simple life.

Anyone stayed in santa teresa and have a good review on how it is staying there?

Anyone know if these girls are really twins or not, and if they really have lesbian sex with each other? I mean even if they weren't real sisters, just that they look alike and lez out is good enough for me. Or is it they are twins or sisters, but they don't interact with each other at all? I mean still sweet but if they ain't lesbian with each other it's not as good for me. Anyone know?

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-tamara-e-thais-gemeas[/URL]

Monday, 3 pops, 2 hoars, lessons.

So Vagabundo mongered over to centro in the 15 h30 bus from barra (saving 50 r, always get a bus pass when staying at av gastao senges 395, ride never gets old).

He then went into bang a porno star in a prive (got to got to be there in person for the pussy patrols, come with vagabundo, usually meet daily 13 h at cinelandia starbucks).

Two pops.

150 r.

100 tip for anal.

Kkkkkkk.

Nota bene, she did not like the new blue ice flavored lube from the cimed company. Stick to the purple bottle, which doubles as a very thick dildo, see all the local porno! Haah.

Then, somewhat drained, vagabundo mongered over to a trash casa because noemie michelle Obama bilas was there.

He marked with her for a pernoite, and killed time getting some food at megamatte, acai and a chicken sandwich.

Lesson learned coming up, always bring some 250 ML bottles of good quality protein, like. Gold standard whey. Vagabundo is very health conscious now, and it is obvious that all the fast food the hoars eat will kill you through cancer, etc. So avoid it. Foreshadowing here.

Then vagabundo took michelle Obama noemie bilas over to lips motel, and proceeded to ride her negra pussy lips bare for pretty much a full 40 minutes of slow bare fucking, which is just what he needed, bent her over doggy and creampied her FLOTUS 20 year old not having any cell phone because rio is so fucking violent and criminal hole.

Then, vagabundo enjoyed a whole bubble bath to himself for a while, the hoars never want to get wet. Fuck them.

Then, and this is where the story ends, he tried to order a salada. Motels lips has no salad. He tried to order rice. Motel lips had no rice, or it was not clear. But michelle Obama negra noemie bilas being a fried chicken eatin negra scooped up the phone and ordered fries and hamburger. Well, vagabundo had paid 160 for pernoite, and the mattresses are hard, and he knew he would end up eating some fatty, cancer causing junk food, so, he said.

Let's just go baby.

And we did. We canceled the pernoite.

We had planned for 400 r, and I paid her 200 r in a nice note which only the centro bradesco's seem to have and gave her 20 r for bus fare, being a honorable bloke and all, and walked her to metro carioca, where vagabundo rode the metro back to barra, and healthy food in my own fridge.

So, there it is.

Paid out 450 r for 3 fucks, high cost per fuck (CPF) for vagabundo, but 2 of the 3 were porn star fucks.

Monger on, fellas.

We have some good folks in town just now!

Man, I love rio.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2834652]Anyone know if these girls are really twins or not, and if they really have lesbian sex with each other? I mean even if they weren't real sisters, just that they look alike and lez out is good enough for me. Or is it they are twins or sisters, but they don't interact with each other at all? I mean still sweet but if they ain't lesbian with each other it's not as good for me. Anyone know?

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-tamara-e-thais-gemeas[/URL][/QUOTE]I would say the odds of twin sisters eating each other out and putting on a lesbian show are between "0 and Never going to happen". Better to be happy with both of them going down on you at the same time!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2834763]I would say the odds of twin sisters eating each other out and putting on a lesbian show are between "0 and Never going to happen". Better to be happy with both of them going down on you at the same time![/QUOTE]Leave that porno alone! Why do guys get wrapped up in the themes or titles of porn? It is not real life. It is fiction.

Since you are paying close attention to Vagabundo's fashion trends, I also recommend:

In the Navy exchange aboard Coronado, the SOG SEAL Strike, the SOG Trident, and a Jewish and / or Christian chaplain collar device.

The POC2 beige uniform is exactly the same as the Bombeiro uniform!

In Rio,

Laura Artesanato.

Rua Senhora dos Passos 135, Saara-Centro, RJ.

Has great rainbow masks (Vagabundo's pronouns are your royal highness and identifies as a lesbian).

And the aforementioned, often.

Casa do Bombeiro.

Praça the República, 13 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20211-350.

For all your fashion needs.

Also, go to Central metro for SIM chips, 18 r for Claro Vivo or Tim, no CPF required.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2834144]40 waist, 30 length?

No need to look for numbers.

Just ask for the size, 'as wide as you are tall. '.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;2834763]I would say the odds of twin sisters eating each other out and putting on a lesbian show are between "0 and Never going to happen". Better to be happy with both of them going down on you at the same time![/QUOTE]The odds might increased if they were Siamese twins.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2834763]I would say the odds of twin sisters eating each other out and putting on a lesbian show are between "0 and Never going to happen". Better to be happy with both of them going down on you at the same time![/QUOTE]I see.

Oh well. I guess it's back to searching for the ultimate PSE threesome with 2 girls who are 9 or 10's. Will report my success once I get to Rio and achieve this.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2834763]I would say the odds of twin sisters eating each other out and putting on a lesbian show are between "0 and Never going to happen". Better to be happy with both of them going down on you at the same time![/QUOTE]Hahaha Well, being the perv I am, I did message them. I'm still 2 months out from my trip but I do plan on seeing them. Just a heads up, those photos are likely a bit dated. I know that will shock no one. The more recent photos are definitely down 1 point or so. Still attractive and I'm still determined to live the fantasy, real or not.

You're better off going to prives.

[URL]gparena.net[/URL]

Prives.

Go and pick two girls, ask to conversar, explain what you want, do a threesome.

Triple 69.

That means it is possible in a threesome for 6 combinations of 69, meia nove.

Rinse, repeat, report.

But don't' take pictures without permission.

That will get you jiu jitsu'ed to the ground and your camera taken away.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2834817]I see.

Oh well. I guess it's back to searching for the ultimate PSE threesome with 2 girls who are 9 or 10's. Will report my success once I get to Rio and achieve this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2834753]Vagabundo is very health conscious now, and it is obvious that all the fast food the hoars eat will kill you through cancer, etc. So avoid it.
Then, and this is where the story ends, he tried to order a salada. Motels lips has no salad. He tried to order rice. Motel lips had no rice, or it was not clear. But a fried chicken eatin negra scooped up the phone and ordered fries and hamburger. Well, vagabundo he knew he would end up eating some fatty, cancer causing junk food, where vagabundo rode the metro back to barra, and healthy food in my own fridge.

So, there it is.[/QUOTE]Achieved a 40-inch waist to complement your 30-inch inseam without a diet of fatty, cancer-causing junk food? What a feat.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2835069]You're better off going to prives.

[URL]gparena.net[/URL]

Prives.

Go and pick two girls, ask to conversar, explain what you want, do a threesome.

Triple 69.

That means it is possible in a threesome for 6 combinations of 69, meia nove.

Rinse, repeat, report.

But don't' take pictures without permission.

That will get you jiu jitsu'ed to the ground and your camera taken away.[/QUOTE]Are Prives girls 8, 9, and 10's? Because that's also what I'm after. 8's, 9's and 10's, mixed race, mulata, or negra preferred. Prives are the spots to find that?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2835082]Achieved a 40-inch waist to complement your 30-inch inseam without a diet of fatty, cancer-causing junk food? What a feat.[/QUOTE]Anyone know where to buy healthy foods in Rio like raw spinach, salads, fruits (Mango, banana, etc) and sunflower seeds?

Also where in Rio can one buy some simple but delicious grilled chicken breast. I don't want to be eating too much bad foods. My 2000 daily calories need to be full of the good foods I listed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2834775]Leave that porno alone! Why do guys get wrapped up in the themes or titles of porn? [b]It is not real life. It is fiction.[/b][/QUOTE]Are you sure about that?? Somebody is living the life!

[QUOTE=Safado007;2834431]Usually to get PREP it is mandatory to do a HIV test first, which is for a good reason. If someone uses PREP and is already HIV positive it will limit treatment options of the actual disease.

I assume Vagabundo means that the place does not require you to do a test prior to purchase. Very questionable from a medical standpoint. Starting PREP without being 100% sure of negative status is just stupid.[/QUOTE]Thanks! And I'm already on it but for me, its expensive getting a test every 3 months so I'm less worried about not testing.

If it weren't for porn my memory and writing about the last 1200 days would not have an index.

For that matter, most of we mongers know rio by buttman and the new buttman -- [URL]mamboperv.com[/URL] -- porno!

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2835231]Are you sure about that?? Somebody is living the life![/QUOTE]

Prive girls are definitely 8+.

Read [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and gpguia.

And here.

I have identified many 8+ prive girls on this group.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2835212]Are Prives girls 8, 9, and 10's? Because that's also what I'm after. 8's, 9's and 10's, mixed race, mulata, or negra preferred. Prives are the spots to find that?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2835212]Are Prives girls 8, 9, and 10's? Because that's also what I'm after. 8's, 9's and 10's, mixed race, mulata, or negra preferred. Prives are the spots to find that?[/QUOTE]No. You'll be able to find a gem every now and again, but it takes a lot of sifting. You either need to adjust your expectations or go to much pricier termas instead. And even then, expecting 10's you're setting yourself up for a disappointment.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2835443]Prive girls are definitely 8+.

Read [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and gpguia.

And here.

I have identified many 8+ prive girls on this group.[/QUOTE]Can you give me a list of prive you recommend. I'm planning a trip to Rio.

Its just different hours.

Literally, the same girls work at the tier 1 prives as work at 4 x4 over any given year. Someone who is here sees that.

Also, yes, adjust your expectations. People come into town after 50 weeks a year in pussy prison and expect in 2 weeks for miss bum bum Brasil contestants to come to their room on command in pairs eating each others clits. Well, it takes a little more work than that. [URL]gparena.net[/URL], make a spreadsheet, and expect to fuck 2 out of 10 on your list.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2835443]Prive girls are definitely 8+

Read [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and gpguia.

And here.

I have identified many 8+ prive girls on this group.[/QUOTE]

Hello everyone! This is my first post.

I've been here in Rio for about a week. Before Brazil I spent several months in Medellíand (Colombia) and in Caracas (Venezuela). The first thing I did, once I arrived in Brazil, was to start my usual "job" on Tinder.

After a week, despite having the Platinum membership, I only got about ten matches. In Colombia and Venezuela for the same period I would have obtained at least a hundred.

So they come directly to my question: do you also find that the Tinder app here in Brazil doesn't work much? If yes, are there maybe other better apps preferred by cariocas girls?

Thanks to anyone who replies.

I went to Centauro terma Saturday afternon. The reception was helpful and explained the system to me. I paid 140 reais for the entrance. Showered. Upstairs at the bar I enjoyd the included drink, while looking at the girls. High pressure, as they all stood up. 12 girls, most of them good-looking. Only one other customer at 5 pm. I sat down with Lisa (25, Rio). Then we had to go down to the reception for me to make the payment: 140 r for a small room for forty minutes, and 320 tr o Lisa. The session was reasonably good: kissing (almost DFK), I had to ask for BBBJ: which was mediocre CFS was ok. Pretty and funny girl though (but fake boobs). The facilities at this place are good, but it's nothing like a German FKK (with food, larger areas etc). Total damage 600r (when paid in cash). If this is much better than a prive (for 150 r) can be discussed.

Additional: it's difficult to compare with a FKK, but:
-entrance 26 eur in Rio vs 30-65 eur in Germany. (More included in Germany at the pricier places).
-girl in room for half hour 85 eur in Brazil vs 100 eur in Germany.

Rio dJ, July 2023.

[QUOTE=SlimBoy;2835858]Hello everyone! This is my first post.

I've been here in Rio for about a week. Before Brazil I spent several months in Medelland (Colombia) and in Caracas (Venezuela). The first thing I did, once I arrived in Brazil, was to start my usual "job" on Tinder.

After a week, despite having the Platinum membership, I only got about ten matches. In Colombia and Venezuela for the same period I would have obtained at least a hundred.

So they come directly to my question: do you also find that the Tinder app here in Brazil doesn't work much? If yes, are there maybe other better apps preferred by cariocas girls?

Thanks to anyone who replies.[/QUOTE]I've heard they use more OKcupid than tinder.

Seeking is also pretty terrible from my experience over there as well.

There are some girls but they usually live far from copa and are flakey.

The online stuff seems to be pretty unreliable in RJ.

I wouldn't call it a waste but I wouldn't rely on it either.

[QUOTE=SlimBoy;2835858]Hello everyone! This is my first post.
So they come directly to my question: do you also find that the Tinder app here in Brazil doesn't work much? If yes, are there maybe other better apps preferred by cariocas girls?
[/QUOTE]Try Bumble, if you're going for dating route.

Great day to be a live!

ISG er BigHead and Vagabundo headed to Eden Spa at Av Nossa Copa 583 sala 401 and 302, and got the line up. Then, having chosen no girls, we took a city bus to centro and hit some of the usual centro prives, and both scored with 18 year olds. We went to Pacheco pharmacia and loaded up on PReP. Vagabundo fucked twice, a 18 year old and a porn star, and wingman scored with a 18 year old. We then got some SIM cards at Central for 10 r for each card (Tim), and then uberéthe back to Copa, had a great meal at Principe de Monaco, a block over from Ritz hotel behind Othon where Bighead was staying. A good wingman is a good friend -- is physically and financially fit, and can thus add security, which is the main thing in this dangerous country. As the saying goes, bros before hoars. The plan for tomorrow is to repeat the good times, and to check out Duda's. A replay per our whatsapp group is below.

10:32 AM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: vagabundo will be at eden spa copa at 12 h.

10:32 AM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: alert the press.

11:42 AM, 7/17/2023 Vagabundo headed to Eden spa sala 402.

11:42 AM, 7/17/2023 Eta is 20-30.

11:42 AM, 7/17/2023 13 h vagabundo and bighead going to centro.

11:43 AM, 7/17/2023 Alert the press.

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11:53 AM, 7/17/2023 Purple butt plugs mosaad.

11:53 AM, 7/17/2023 Blue butt plugs russian.

11:54 AM, 7/17/2023 Green butt plugs Chinese.

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11:55 AM, 7/17/2023 Exfil grupo Maritimo posto 1 14 h.

11:55 AM, 7/17/2023 [URL]https://maps.google.com/maps?q=-22.9876965%2C-43.1950125&z=17&hl=en[/URL].

11:56 AM, 7/17/2023 See the corpsman for prep and condoms.

12:23 PM, 7/17/2023 Who is at 583?

12:56 PM, 7/17/2023 Vagabundo headed to Centro with bighead.

1:00 PM, 7/17/2023 Going to darkroom etc.

1:08 PM, 7/17/2023 Going to [URL]darkroom.com.br[/URL].

1:27 PM, 7/17/2023 Plan is darkroom, emporio, lunch, 116,202, 4 x4.

1:27 PM, 7/17/2023 Shopping.

1:27 PM, 7/17/2023 I may join at 4 x4 later. Keep me posted.

1:28 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: K.

1:28 PM, 7/17/2023 ISG Pv118: Have you guys explored places more to the north west like Carribean queen?

1:29 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Send addresses.

1:29 PM, 7/17/2023 ISG Pv118: I did a bunch of new places before leaving rio. They are decent but far from centro.

1:29 PM, 7/17/2023 ISG Pv118: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/oo9tkuipg6eABNUB8?g_st=iw[/URL].

1:29 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Send your gsheet.

1:29 PM, 7/17/2023 ISG Pv118: Surprisingly decent and good sex here.

1:29 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Quant sex addict.

1:30 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Haha.

1:30 PM, 7/17/2023 ISG Pv118: There were also 2 more.

1:30 PM, 7/17/2023 ISG Pv118: It's been complete fail lately. Central America is CBJ territory.

1:31 PM, 7/17/2023 ISG Pv118: I think I'm getting the digital nomad visa when I come back assuming it stays $100 and if the Brazil tourist is $165 pre bolsanaro.

1:32 PM, 7/17/2023 ISG Pv118: And one of the things I will do is hit the north west locals clubs.

1:35 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Deborah at darkroom.

1:46 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Cris emporio.

2:58 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Going to meet for lunch.

2:58 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Great session.

2:58 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Plural.

3:59 PM, 7/17/2023 Barcas Gloria: Hi from zanetti.

6:22 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Gato, bighead and vagabundo are in Uber to ritz.

6:23 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: How copy over.

6:29 PM, 7/17/2023 Barcas Gloria: For Jimmy boy.

9:21 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: Plan tomorrow: meet in copa 12 h. Uber to Centro to check dudas.

9:22 PM, 7/17/2023 professor josef: And other Centro prives.

Another great day.

Headed for centro on the 11 h20 bus, and linked up at 12 h30 at Starbucks Cinelandia with gato1 and bighead.

We headed over to the usual centro prives, and Vagabundo hit one of the usual suspects for a hot bang. Then we linked up at Zanetti grill (owners say Hi to JimmyBoy, who looks great at 97, after 49 years auditing books for the Vatican and the Mafia! Owner of 4 x4 came over to our table and said Hi. We then got in some km by walking around, hit darkroom, no one there appealed to wingmen, and hit a so called trash casa, where vagabundo again banged this time an actual porn star, OMFG, what a nice booty. Then we linked up and headed around lapa to casa de bombeiro, and then another shop in search of some quality bags. In recollection, the best spot is the asdivers shop on alfandega, which we should hit; and the other good shop being decathlon, globally, or in rio, the one in barra. We then went to dudas and onix in rio branco 156 where gato1 pulled the trigger on a target screened on gparena and the local boards. We then headed back via metro to cantagalo metro and the fish place. It was a great day. Two solid fucks with actual porn stars and a girl who was even better than a porn star!

I am an Asian (brown skin), and I don't speak Portuguese. I almost always have to use translate app.

For the places below, anything before colon is I got from ISG, and anything after colon is my contribution.

Copacabana. Daytime (From West to East).

Rua Djalma Ulrich 163, Sala 701: Went on Saturday 2:30 pm. The building was locked and accessible only with card swipe. I rang the bell from outside, a guy came from the downstairs garage on the side and told it is open only on Mondays. It doesn't make sense, but that's the best I could try. Maybe its closed on weekends.

Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, 1052, Sala 805: Went on Sat 2:40 pm. No sign, no bell outside 805. Knocked. No body opened. It seems not occupied.

Rua Santa Clara, 50 Sala 806: Went on Fri 3 pm. Rang, knocked. No body opened.

Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana 680, - Sala 1112: Went on Fri 3:35 pm. 200/ HR for Tantra, swedish 220, Nuru 300-400. Only HJ, no sex. They gave phone number: +55 21 96721-2717.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 647 -Salas 1106,1107: Went on Fri 3:25 p. Both are next to each other. Rang the bell, couldn't hear the bell sound from outside. Knocked. No body opened in either of them. Seems both are not occupied.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583 (mat reading "Copa 583" Went on Fri 4:30 pm. Seems no longer there. I was here in Jan'20, but I couldn't find the mat this time.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583. Sala 203, Termas: Went on Friday 4:20 pm, it was closed.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583. Sala 206: Went on Friday 4:20 pm. Saw 5 girls, rating 6/10.3 girls are busy.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583. Sala 308: I think I couldn't find this place.

: Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583. Sala 302. I think this place is / was not mentioned in the maps. I went on Friday 4:10 pm. Saw 3 girls 6-7/10,2 more busy. I was told there will be 9 girls on Saturday and 6 girls on Monday. Open 9 am to 9 pm.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583. Sala 401: went on Friday 4:05 pm. Saw 4 girls 6-7/10,3 were busy.

Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583. Sala 505: went on Friday 4 pm. Only HJ, starts at 200/ HR.

Rua Siqueira Campos 43, sala 825: Went on Friday 4:30 pm. Saw 3 girls 6-7/10.160/ HR.

Is it possible to get the Perola Negra without having the taxi have to drive through Rocinha (a favela). Because when I see the route to drive back home from Perola Negra, it passes through that favela, and I don't like the idea of having my taxi drive through a favela at like 1 or 2 in the morning.

[QUOTE=TomDick69;2836846]I am an Asian (brown skin), and I don't speak Portuguese. I almost always have to use translate app.

For the places below, anything before colon is I got from ISG, and anything after colon is my contribution.

Copacabana. Daytime (From West to East).

Rua Djalma Ulrich 163, Sala 701: Went on Saturday 2:30 pm. The building was locked and accessible only with card swipe. I rang the bell from outside, a guy came from the downstairs garage on the side and told it is open only on Mondays. It doesn't make sense, but that's the best I could try. Maybe its closed on weekends.

Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, 1052, Sala 805: Went on Sat 2:40 pm. No sign, no bell outside 805. Knocked. No body opened. It seems not occupied.

Rua Santa Clara, 50 Sala 806: Went on Fri 3 pm. Rang, knocked. No body opened.
[/QUOTE]After all this. Did you even session? If you didn't, why not?

Just did Termas 502. Maybe 20 girls. 5 were negras. 2 of the negras were fat, and the rest were pretty. Forgot the name of the girl I went up with but I got her for 250 Real for an hour. She tried later in the session to upsale me anal for 400, which I declined. I asked for anal earlier and she swore she never did it. Clearly wasn't true since the upsale attempt occurred.

The real crappy thing was the room. It was 300 for the room. My lack of knowledge and hormones at the moment made me pay.

Sex was great. Girl sucked dick like a champ. Though I questioned if she allowed me to finish in her mouth since I held it in and she kept trying to time the cumshot to avoid it. So instead I finished doggie style. Got her number, and will likely see her outside on the cheap.

While talking, she told me she once was robbed of one of a phone. Then to continue the crime theme, the Uber driver kept eating lights, while telling me "In Rio de Janeiro, you never stop at a light at night". Everyone here tells me that yes, the crime situation is grave but it's mostly theft. You're not likely to be killed so long as you give your shit up. Be careful out there everyone.

300 for the room at a place like 502 ! That's wild. I thought 502 was more of a local hole in the wall?

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2836947]Just did Termas 502. Maybe 20 girls. 5 were negras. 2 of the negras were fat, and the rest were pretty. Forgot the name of the girl I went up with but I got her for 250 Real for an hour. She tried later in the session to upsale me anal for 400, which I declined. I asked for anal earlier and she swore she never did it. Clearly wasn't true since the upsale attempt occurred.

The real crappy thing was the room. It was 300 for the room. My lack of knowledge and hormones at the moment made me pay.

Sex was great. Girl sucked dick like a champ. Though I questioned if she allowed me to finish in her mouth since I held it in and she kept trying to time the cumshot to avoid it. So instead I finished doggie style. Got her number, and will likely see her outside on the cheap.

While talking, she told me she once was robbed of one of a phone. Then to continue the crime theme, the Uber driver kept eating lights, while telling me "In Rio de Janeiro, you never stop at a light at night". Everyone here tells me that yes, the crime situation is grave but it's mostly theft. You're not likely to be killed so long as you give your shit up. Be careful out there everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2836870]Is it possible to get the Perola Negra without having the taxi have to drive through Rocinha (a favela). Because when I see the route to drive back home from Perola Negra, it passes through that favela, and I don't like the idea of having my taxi drive through a favela at like 1 or 2 in the morning.[/QUOTE]Yes, through Vista Chinesa and Lagoa; doubles the distance.

[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2836949]300 for the room at a place like 502 ! That's wild. I thought 502 was more of a local hole in the wall?[/QUOTE]I speak perfect Spanish, and am somewhat beginning to catch Portuguese. Maybe they upsold me the room? Wouldn't be too shocked. But that was my experience tonight.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2836947]Just did Termas 502. Maybe 20 girls. 5 were negras. 2 of the negras were fat, and the rest were pretty. Forgot the name of the girl I went up with but I got her for 250 Real for an hour. She tried later in the session to upsale me anal for 400, which I declined. I asked for anal earlier and she swore she never did it. Clearly wasn't true since the upsale attempt occurred.

The real crappy thing was the room. It was 300 for the room. My lack of knowledge and hormones at the moment made me pay..[/QUOTE]So you paid 550 reais for an hour at 502? Did you have a cabin or a "suite"?

Not that it matters but they shouldn't charge extra for a regular cabin, and a suite is just a 100 more. The most you should've paid is 350.

Sorry to have to say that, but unless this is something very new, they took you to the cleaners.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2836658]......vagabundo again banged this time an actual porn star, OMFG, what a nice booty.....[/QUOTE]Who was the porn star?

Finally made it back to Brazil after a long time and damn was I biting my fingers. Damn Brazil land Carioca's and bundas. My previous trips were to Sao Paulo, but this time around I decided to split my time between Rio and SP.

I had read almost 200 pages each on the Rio Forum and Sao Paulo forum. I also read the links of distinction and printed pages of what to do and where to go. I also printed Bubba Boy's guide and maps from the directions in case I didn't have internet access.

I have to give props to the contributors of the forum, I got all the information needed for my trip and more. Some reports are so detailed it's like a Doctorate thesis. The reports gave details of everything from where to monger, eat, drink, hangout, shop, get a sim card and more. It was so helpful, time saving and cost saving.

Arrived Sao Paulo in the evening after a long flight and had a connecting flight to Rio 2 hours later. At Guarulhos Airport in SP I tried to get a sim card as advised by one of the mongers in the forum. There were no shops available that sold sim cards and had to use the Airport Wi-Fi till I got to Rio. Maybe because it was a Sunday.

Finally arrived Rio about 9 pm. I had booked Airport pick up on [URL]booking.com[/URL], along with my hotel booking, just in case I didn't have network and the Airport Wifi messed up. Pick up was smooth and the drive to the hotel was a breeze about 20 minutes. Driving to the hotel the air was different. I could feel the energy and the vibe of Rio. On my way to the hotel, passed the famous Mabs.

Booked a week to stay at the Windsor California Copacabana by the beach front and the beach view was something else. Windsor Copacabana is next to JW Marriot and Grand Mercure. Also not too far from Astoria Hotel.

It's a good hotel with fantastic service, roof top pool and dining, good gym, nice breakfast buffet and great staff. Very professional and helpful. Given a glass of juice at arrival and completed check in. The only issue was when I was told guests are only allowed in the common area. I had to remind the receptionist that I booked for 2 people. He now said no problem. Showered and slept as I was jet lagged.

Woke up next morning and opened the window. My oh my, Lordy dowdy. The beach view was awesome. Looking out from the balcony I could see the beach and a lot on it. Saw some nice looking bundas on the beach as early as 8 am in the morning. Rio is something else. It was a perfect way to start the day. I felt energized.

Went to the gym at the roof top, the hotel has a pool on the roof top and also a dining area, which has a nice view of Christ the Redeemer. Had buffet breakfast and went to look for a sim card to buy. Buying a sim card was nearly mission impossible without a CPF. I went to the Claro and TIM stores on Avenida Nossa Copacabana and it was a dud. I then went to Rio Sul shopping mall and all the Mobile companies refused to sell without CPF. I couldn't book an uber once out of the hotel, due to lack of Wi-Fi. I also met a couple of British guys too looking for sim cards to buy and they couldn't get.

Had to take a normal cab to the hotel. At the hotel lobby I was thinking of how to get a sim card, when I decided to chat the hotel concierge. He was a very nice guy called Douglas who spoke a bit of English and loved to practice with me. Asked him where I could get a sim card and he told me to walk a 100 meters from America after a right turn from the hotel and look out for a kiosk that sells newspapers and I would get one there. I did as he said and voila I got sim cards from claro and TIM. Choose claro and it was loaded for me and I was good to go.

Earlier I had gotten in touch with a fellow ISG'er from America who agreed to meet up and hit up Monte Carlo together. Shout out to him. It was nice hanging out with him. A very cool guy with lots of Rio experience. Met up with him in front of the hotel beside Dolce vita and walked in, it was Monday night about 8 pm and wasn't expecting a super line up. Got to the reception and asked the rates. 150 reals entry free, the rooms were 250 reals and 350 for the suite, if I remember correctly.

Paid and walked upstairs to the lounge. The lounge is a small area with rows of seats on each side and a bar at the end. We were the only guys in the club, walked to the bar and as we were ordering drinks, I felt like a prey being watched. It was like when you are being watched by an animal and you feel all eyes on you. We turned around and all the girls in the club were standing and staring at us while we had our backs to them. It was very surreal. There were about 11 girls from the big Brazilian bunda to slim thick and spinners. They were more slim spinners than big bundas. If you like spinners and slim thick, Monte Carlo is you place. Immediately I set my eyes on her, I knew she was the one. I hadn't broken my Brazilian duck yet, and I wanted it to be a triple be (Big Brazilian Bunda). As I saw her, the other girls fades from my view. Wowee. Built like a stallion with a pretty face, medium size boobs and a blonde. I tried hard to control myself and follow the process of screening. Waved her over and got her drink, while waiting for her drink, she turned around and started rubbing that ass on me ooh boy. Told me to feel it and that it was real. Her name was Carla. She spoke a bit of English and with google translate the screening started.

Chupa: sim, Anal: sim, Safada: she smiled. Vamos and we went to the reception to pay for the room. The lady at the reception spoke English and explained that there were two type of rooms. The standard and the suite. The standard cabine was 150 reals and the suite 200 reals. Told them I wanted to view the rooms and then make my choice. We went to the standard cabine and damn it was like a prison cell. Very small and with little room to maneuver. The suite was bigger and with shower cubicle in it. Chose the bigger room and went to pay. Had to wait a while for Carla to show up. She went to the changing room and took forever to come. She finally showed and off to the suite.

Pulled her to me and grabbed ass, spanking and rubbing it down, letting her know who owned it while she was deep kissing me. Brazilian girls can kiss. They want to swallow your tongue and cut off your oxygen supply at the same time. Both went in to the shower. She started washing down and rubbing my dick and I couldn't race. Stepped out of the shower and onto the bed and it was more French kiss for a long time. She laid me down and started giving me head. Slowly worked all the way down to my balls and then back up. Then she went fast and furious like she wanted to suck my nuts out. She was a trooper and deep throated it all the way, spitting, sucking, licking all the way down to my other hole. After about five minutes of freaky head, she grabs a condom, straps me and starts to ride me CG style. She rode like a wild bronco for a while, then slowed down and leaned forward French kissing while straddling my dick. I noticed a similar scenario with most of the girls both at the termas, prives and boates. They give you fast and furious head, then get on top CG style, hoping to get you to nut quickly. Well this wasn't going to happen with me. She then got back up, same CG style, but this time stretched her hands to me to hold, so she can get balance and started slamming that bunda on my dick after like two minutes, she tired out and looked at me, like why haven't you come. I gave a look that said are you done. She got off me and she laid on the bed exhausted. I then got up and moved over to her and started sucking her nipples, down to the belly button and then the pussy. Licked it slowly, tongued it, in and out and made her wet and squirming. She removed the condom and sucked me again then strapped me. I raised her legs up, teased her clit with my dick and then slammed it in, she was wet and juicy. Pumped her in that position, then music started. Foji papi foji, safada, gustoso. I moved to a different style for deeper penetration, closed her legs together and raised them up, while on her back and fucked her first slowly then fast and hard, It was the same foji papi foji all over again. With her legs closed together, I bent her backwards all the way, so her ass was hanging in the air and I could penetrate deeper, went on it for some time then stopped to take a breather as I hadn't cum. She looks at me like I was the devil and say muito safada. I smile and said sim. Sipped some water, while looking at the bunda and said to her anal. I thought she would bail out after the pussy pounding, but like a true Brasilera, she shook her head and went to get the gel. Slapped the gel on the condom and into her culo. She got on her knees and I slowly eased it in. Started slowly then increased the pace. I pounded that ass in doggy like there was no tomorrow, then it was anal with her on her side. Watching the ass cheeks ripple as I pounded her culo was a sight for forever. Give it to her that ass was big and soft. We then moved to anal in flat doggy, with her all flat on her stomach, we were approaching 40 minutes at that time. I had to give it my all to nut and pounded that her for another 2 minutes, before the I spilled it in the condom. Laying on her body and breathing had, she didn't believe I had cum. When I got up and sat catching my breath, she came to check the condom to see if I really nutted. She took of the condom and looked at the leche and said diablo and started cursing in Portuguese. Sat on the bed and shook my head. That went according to plan. My first Rio nut was perfect. Big bunda, crazy head, porn style sex with anal on top. I was knocked out. Showered and went back to the bar area.

Waited for my wingman and we headed for 4 x 4, he wanted to check out the scene over there. At exit the lady tried to charge me again for entry fee which I had already paid. Always check your bills carefully at payment. Total cost was 550 reals. Arrived 4 x 4 about 11 pm, I was already exhausted from my time at Monte Carlo, but wanted to check out the famous Quattro por Quattro. We paid the entry fee, changed in to robes and went to the bar. 4 x4 has 2 main areas. A whiskeria on the ground floor and the boate on the first floor. It also has a smoking area on the 2nd floor.

We walked into the boate and there were slim pickings as it was close to 12 am. Most of the few remaining girls were the big bunda types and I already had my filling at Monte Carlo. My wingman chose a blonde with big bunda, who he had sessioned with a day before. I didn't see anything that excited me and went down to the whiskeria to see if there was anything special. Didn't see nothing special and seemed my wingman wasn't tapping out early, despite just having a session, a few hours earlier. I sent him a message, that I was leaving and booked an uber and left.

[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2811166]Wait so in 4 x4 you're expected to walk around nude in a robe? Personally I wouldn't give a damn. Easier access. What about your feet though and do you get a locker for your things?

I've RTFF for my upcoming trip and missed this little nugget of detail.[/QUOTE]I think they give you slippers for your feet. Many people don't use the robes. First time I went I used a robe. Never did again, but I do see some advantages. Girls can grab your cock easier. The robes do make sense if you're going to use some of the facilities there. I think there is a sauna there. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone use it.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;2837087]
Booked a week to stay at the Windsor California Copacabana by the beach front and the beach view was something else. Windsor Copacabana is next to JW Marriot and Grand Mercure. Also not too far from Astoria Hotel.

It's a good hotel with fantastic service, roof top pool and dining, good gym, nice breakfast buffet and great staff. Very professional and helpful. Given a glass of juice at arrival and completed check in. The only issue was when I was told guests are only allowed in the common area. I had to remind the receptionist that I booked for 2 people. He now said no problem. Showered and slept as I was jet lagged.

.[/QUOTE]Are you able to bring in as many "guests" as you want per day or are you restricted to 1 guest a day with a surcharge for any additional women?

I stayed at the Astoria about 3 years ago (Based off of reviews on this site) but they forgot to add some important details in their reviews. You can have only one "registered guest" during your stay, meaning only 1 female can sleep over without you having to pay a fee. You can bring in another female but she can't stay the night, if she sleeps over, you have to pay a fee.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;2837087]Finally made it back to Brazil after a long time and damn was I biting my fingers. Damn Brazil land Carioca's and bundas. My previous trips were to Sao Paulo, but this time around I decided to split my time between Rio and SP.

I had read almost 200 pages each on the Rio Forum and Sao Paulo forum. I also read the links of distinction and printed pages of what to do and where to go. I also printed Bubba Boy's guide and maps from the directions in case I didn't have internet access.

I have to give props to the contributors of the forum, I got all the information needed for my trip and more. Some reports are so detailed it's like a Doctorate thesis. The reports gave details of everything from where to monger, eat, drink, hangout, shop, get a sim card and more. It was so helpful, time saving and cost saving.

Arrived Sao Paulo in the evening after a long flight and had a connecting flight to Rio 2 hours later. At Guarulhos Airport in SP I tried to get a sim card as advised by one of the mongers in the forum. There were no shops available that sold sim cards and had to use the Airport Wi-Fi till I got to Rio. Maybe because it was a Sunday.

Finally arrived Rio about 9 pm. I had booked Airport pick up on [URL]booking.com[/URL], along with my hotel booking, just in case I didn't have network and the Airport Wifi messed up. Pick up was smooth and the drive to the hotel was a breeze about 20 minutes. Driving to the hotel the air was different. I could feel the energy and the vibe of Rio. On my way to the hotel, passed the famous Mabs.

Booked a week to stay at the Windsor California Copacabana by the beach front and the beach view was something else. Windsor Copacabana is next to JW Marriot and Grand Mercure. Also not too far from Astoria Hotel.

It's a good hotel with fantastic service, roof top pool and dining, good gym, nice breakfast buffet and great staff. Very professional and helpful. Given a glass of juice at arrival and completed check in. The only issue was when I was told guests are only allowed in the common area. I had to remind the receptionist that I booked for 2 people. He now said no problem. Showered and slept as I was jet lagged. [/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed it. I looked at all the hotels facing the beach on google maps. Looked like a city with buildings packed together wall to wall. Except the rooftop always has a pool. So Rio sounds like more fun than Sao Paulo? Girls similar? I land in Sao Paulo. Like you did waiting to hear more, lots more! thanks.

Your post is a bit confusing. At one point you say the regular room is 250 and the suite is 350. Then later you say it is 150 for the regular and 200 for the suite. Then it was 550 total. How much of that 550 was for the girl? Or do you give her cash in the room? Sounds like you had a good time, though, so anyway you cut it, 550 is good.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;2837087]Finally made it back to Brazil after a long time and damn was I biting my fingers. Damn Brazil land Carioca's and bundas. My previous trips were to Sao Paulo, but this time around I decided to split my time between Rio and SP.

I had read almost 200 pages each on the Rio Forum and Sao Paulo forum. I also read the links of distinction and printed pages of what to do and where to go. I also printed Bubba Boy's guide and maps from the directions in case I didn't have internet access.

I have to give props to the contributors of the forum, I got all the information needed for my trip and more. Some reports are so detailed it's like a Doctorate thesis. The reports gave details of everything from where to monger, eat, drink, hangout, shop, get a sim card and more. It was so helpful, time saving and cost saving.

Arrived Sao Paulo in the evening after a long flight and had a connecting flight to Rio 2 hours later. At Guarulhos Airport in SP I tried to get a sim card as advised by one of the mongers in the forum. There were no shops available that sold sim cards and had to use the Airport Wi-Fi till I got to Rio. Maybe because it was a Sunday.

Finally arrived Rio about 9 pm. I had booked Airport pick up on [URL]booking.com[/URL], along with my hotel booking, just in case I didn't have network and the Airport Wifi messed up. Pick up was smooth and the drive to the hotel was a breeze about 20 minutes. Driving to the hotel the air was different. I could feel the energy and the vibe of Rio. On my way to the hotel, passed the famous Mabs.

Booked a week to stay at the Windsor California Copacabana by the beach front and the beach view was something else. Windsor Copacabana is next to JW Marriot and Grand Mercure. Also not too far from Astoria Hotel.

It's a good hotel with fantastic service, roof top pool and dining, good gym, nice breakfast buffet and great staff. Very professional and helpful. Given a glass of juice at arrival and completed check in. The only issue was when I was told guests are only allowed in the common area. I had to remind the receptionist that I booked for 2 people. He now said no problem. Showered and slept as I was jet lagged.

Woke up next morning and opened the window. My oh my, Lordy dowdy. The beach view was awesome. Looking out from the balcony I could see the beach and a lot on it. Saw some nice looking bundas on the beach as early as 8 am in the morning. Rio is something else. It was a perfect way to start the day. I felt energized.

Went to the gym at the roof top, the hotel has a pool on the roof top and also a dining area, which has a nice view of Christ the Redeemer. Had buffet breakfast and went to look for a sim card to buy. Buying a sim card was nearly mission impossible without a CPF. I went to the Claro and TIM stores on Avenida Nossa Copacabana and it was a dud. I then went to Rio Sul shopping mall and all the Mobile companies refused to sell without CPF. I couldn't book an uber once out of the hotel, due to lack of Wi-Fi. I also met a couple of British guys too looking for sim cards to buy and they couldn't get.

Had to take a normal cab to the hotel. At the hotel lobby I was thinking of how to get a sim card, when I decided to chat the hotel concierge. He was a very nice guy called Douglas who spoke a bit of English and loved to practice with me. Asked him where I could get a sim card and he told me to walk a 100 meters from America after a right turn from the hotel and look out for a kiosk that sells newspapers and I would get one there. I did as he said and voila I got sim cards from claro and TIM. Choose claro and it was loaded for me and I was good to go.

Earlier I had gotten in touch with a fellow ISG'er from America who agreed to meet up and hit up Monte Carlo together. Shout out to him. It was nice hanging out with him. A very cool guy with lots of Rio experience. Met up with him in front of the hotel beside Dolce vita and walked in, it was Monday night about 8 pm and wasn't expecting a super line up. Got to the reception and asked the rates. 150 reals entry free, the rooms were 250 reals and 350 for the suite, if I remember correctly.

Paid and walked upstairs to the lounge. The lounge is a small area with rows of seats on each side and a bar at the end. We were the only guys in the club, walked to the bar and as we were ordering drinks, I felt like a prey being watched. It was like when you are being watched by an animal and you feel all eyes on you. We turned around and all the girls in the club were standing and staring at us while we had our backs to them. It was very surreal. There were about 11 girls from the big Brazilian bunda to slim thick and spinners. They were more slim spinners than big bundas. If you like spinners and slim thick, Monte Carlo is you place. Immediately I set my eyes on her, I knew she was the one. I hadn't broken my Brazilian duck yet, and I wanted it to be a triple be (Big Brazilian Bunda). As I saw her, the other girls fades from my view. Wowee. Built like a stallion with a pretty face, medium size boobs and a blonde. I tried hard to control myself and follow the process of screening. Waved her over and got her drink, while waiting for her drink, she turned around and started rubbing that ass on me ooh boy. Told me to feel it and that it was real. Her name was Carla. She spoke a bit of English and with google translate the screening started.

Chupa: sim, Anal: sim, Safada: she smiled. Vamos and we went to the reception to pay for the room. The lady at the reception spoke English and explained that there were two type of rooms. The standard and the suite. The standard cabine was 150 reals and the suite 200 reals. Told them I wanted to view the rooms and then make my choice. We went to the standard cabine and damn it was like a prison cell. Very small and with little room to maneuver. The suite was bigger and with shower cubicle in it. Chose the bigger room and went to pay. Had to wait a while for Carla to show up. She went to the changing room and took forever to come. She finally showed and off to the suite.

Pulled her to me and grabbed ass, spanking and rubbing it down, letting her know who owned it while she was deep kissing me. Brazilian girls can kiss. They want to swallow your tongue and cut off your oxygen supply at the same time. Both went in to the shower. She started washing down and rubbing my dick and I couldn't race. Stepped out of the shower and onto the bed and it was more French kiss for a long time. She laid me down and started giving me head. Slowly worked all the way down to my balls and then back up. Then she went fast and furious like she wanted to suck my nuts out. She was a trooper and deep throated it all the way, spitting, sucking, licking all the way down to my other hole. After about five minutes of freaky head, she grabs a condom, straps me and starts to ride me CG style. She rode like a wild bronco for a while, then slowed down and leaned forward French kissing while straddling my dick. I noticed a similar scenario with most of the girls both at the termas, prives and boates. They give you fast and furious head, then get on top CG style, hoping to get you to nut quickly. Well this wasn't going to happen with me. She then got back up, same CG style, but this time stretched her hands to me to hold, so she can get balance and started slamming that bunda on my dick after like two minutes, she tired out and looked at me, like why haven't you come. I gave a look that said are you done. She got off me and she laid on the bed exhausted. I then got up and moved over to her and started sucking her nipples, down to the belly button and then the pussy. Licked it slowly, tongued it, in and out and made her wet and squirming. She removed the condom and sucked me again then strapped me. I raised her legs up, teased her clit with my dick and then slammed it in, she was wet and juicy. Pumped her in that position, then music started. Foji papi foji, safada, gustoso. I moved to a different style for deeper penetration, closed her legs together and raised them up, while on her back and fucked her first slowly then fast and hard, It was the same foji papi foji all over again. With her legs closed together, I bent her backwards all the way, so her ass was hanging in the air and I could penetrate deeper, went on it for some time then stopped to take a breather as I hadn't cum. She looks at me like I was the devil and say muito safada. I smile and said sim. Sipped some water, while looking at the bunda and said to her anal. I thought she would bail out after the pussy pounding, but like a true Brasilera, she shook her head and went to get the gel. Slapped the gel on the condom and into her culo. She got on her knees and I slowly eased it in. Started slowly then increased the pace. I pounded that ass in doggy like there was no tomorrow, then it was anal with her on her side. Watching the ass cheeks ripple as I pounded her culo was a sight for forever. Give it to her that ass was big and soft. We then moved to anal in flat doggy, with her all flat on her stomach, we were approaching 40 minutes at that time. I had to give it my all to nut and pounded that her for another 2 minutes, before the I spilled it in the condom. Laying on her body and breathing had, she didn't believe I had cum. When I got up and sat catching my breath, she came to check the condom to see if I really nutted. She took of the condom and looked at the leche and said diablo and started cursing in Portuguese. Sat on the bed and shook my head. That went according to plan. My first Rio nut was perfect. Big bunda, crazy head, porn style sex with anal on top. I was knocked out. Showered and went back to the bar area.

Waited for my wingman and we headed for 4 x 4, he wanted to check out the scene over there. At exit the lady tried to charge me again for entry fee which I had already paid. Always check your bills carefully at payment. Total cost was 550 reals. Arrived 4 x 4 about 11 pm, I was already exhausted from my time at Monte Carlo, but wanted to check out the famous Quattro por Quattro. We paid the entry fee, changed in to robes and went to the bar. 4 x4 has 2 main areas. A whiskeria on the ground floor and the boate on the first floor. It also has a smoking area on the 2nd floor.

We walked into the boate and there were slim pickings as it was close to 12 am. Most of the few remaining girls were the big bunda types and I already had my filling at Monte Carlo. My wingman chose a blonde with big bunda, who he had sessioned with a day before. I didn't see anything that excited me and went down to the whiskeria to see if there was anything special. Didn't see nothing special and seemed my wingman wasn't tapping out early, despite just having a session, a few hours earlier. I sent him a message, that I was leaving and booked an uber and left.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;2837183]Are you able to bring in as many "guests" as you want per day or are you restricted to 1 guest a day with a surcharge for any additional women?

I stayed at the Astoria about 3 years ago (Based off of reviews on this site) but they forgot to add some important details in their reviews. You can have only one "registered guest" during your stay, meaning only 1 female can sleep over without you having to pay a fee. You can bring in another female but she can't stay the night, if she sleeps over, you have to pay a fee.[/QUOTE]I only brought two guests over. They hotel concierge wanted to be a dick, but I insisted I paid for 2 and finally succumbed. He then said I should have sent the names of the people in advance. To buttress my insistence, there were an American girl staying with her friend in the same room, the friend moved out and another friend came to stay in the same room, with no complaint from the hotel. When I pointed that out to the concierge, he shut up.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837198]Your post is a bit confusing. At one point you say the regular room is 250 and the suite is 350. Then later you say it is 150 for the regular and 200 for the suite. Then it was 550 total. How much of that 550 was for the girl? Or do you give her cash in the room? Sounds like you had a good time, though, so anyway you cut it, 550 is good.[/QUOTE]150 entry, 200- girl, 200- suite.

Total - 550 reals.

I paid all in cash at exit.