Katoey or not: Nana Lollipop
I've been to Nana a number of times. There are lots of katoeys there (especially in the back), and of course all around the area. Many of them make it obvious - like saying hello in a male voice. I can often tell the others. To the best of my knowledge, I have never taken a katoey (ladyboy).
I tried out a place in Nana I have always walked by - Lollipops. Ground floor, first place on the left. They are the ones that have a bunch of people lined up to get you to come in, including a girl and a dwarf at various times. I didn't even notice that they were part of that bar when I went in - I have walked by them so many times and gone somewhere else.
While having my usual drink there, I was quickly surrounded by two nice young girls who obviously like to work together. And of course I was watching the stage while talking to them.
There was one heartbreakingly beautiful lady on the corner of the stage, nearest the door. Pretty face, lightened reddish hair. I think she is #5 (I could have the number wrong!). But I never go for the best-looking lady in any place - because I usually get the worst service from the best-looking. Anyway, she was dancing about as sexy as you could want, showing tits, even a full crotch view.
I took one of the two I was sitting with back to my hotel. Later, having some food, she was talking about the honey - referred to this person as "him". What? I said. She said, oops, supposed to be secret. Him take 4 farangs in one evening all the time. Obviously a post-op, as I'm sure I saw no equipment in the crotch view.
On another night, #47 came to sit with me. Not a stunner, but I could have sworn that this was a woman. But in putting my arm around her, resting on upper legs and backside, I noticed that she was unusually firm there. Muscular. Now I've never dated a track star, but this one really had me wondering. I can't say I found out for sure.
If anyone's around BKK cares to check these out and comment on what they see, I'd like to hear from you.
BTW there's a separate thread discussing how to tell a woman from a Katoey. I plan to cross-post there.
Star Of Light - Soi Patpong II
After reading the many write-ups about this BJ bar I decided to give it a try yesterday. In general I am wary of these type places. I generally do not like "quick in/out" services.
For those who do not know the location it is on Patpong II
along Silom Road (Sala Daeng BTS or Silom MRT). It is the smaller and quieter of the 2 Patpong sois with Patpong I being the famous night market soi with the numerous Go-Gos. As you enter the soi from Silom road you will walk past the grocery shop on the right and then you will see beer bars along both sides. Look for the sign of the bar on the right side.
The bar is not street front, it is just off the street along a parallel alley of sorts. There are many bars "nestled" here.
As I arrived there 10-12 ladies out front. Some watching and some eating. Of course when I walked up I got their attention fast! I glanced at the ladies and saw what appeard to be several cuties but decided to see what was inside. As I went inside a cute but slightly chubby girl named Pai follwed me in.
She was very playful and extremely affectionate! Soon she was all over me and giving my unit some attention!. At this point I wasnt sure if I wanted her or not. I like chubby at times but when in LOS I feel "obligated" to go for spinners. Anyways she was very jai dee and I could tell she would be extremely good. I ordered a beer and we chatted. Soon she offers to go to the bathroom for "sucking". I delcined with a plea of "jai yen yen". I told you before I like things to play out a while.
We begin to chat about the bar since it was my first time and have a few giggles. She is 30 and from Khon Kaen. She tells me that I am lovely and she wants to "suck you here" - pointing to her throat, as in deep throat. At this point I truly believe she will!
At this time of day the bar is being readied for the evning crowd. The ladies are cleaning everything and even the bar is being cleaned so I volunteer to move to one of the low sitting couches so that the girls can clean the bar area. So Pai and I go have a seat. Soon another girl walks by that catches my eye. Her name is Lek. Lek is more of the thin spinner type. Right away I want her. She has a twinkle in her eyes and a tightly filled out blouse and small tight bottom! So I invite her join Pai and I.
Pai tells her that I am "jai yen yen" at the moment..so basically I sit and have 2 beers with these girls and of course hands are everywhere....its quite fun and the build up of giggling and flirting with these two as well as having them massage my unit is what I like...ample flirting and foreplay!
After an hour I finally agree to go with both to the bathroom for what I already know will be very good. For those who do not know the set up, the bathroom is quite small. A sink, a small urinal and little else. But it does have a small padded stool that is used for comfort. You sit there and the girls get on the floor to service you. So we all get completely naked (a surprise to me) and our clothes are placed on a hook on the wall. This is quite comfortable!
Well these two go to work, sucking, ball licking, anal stimulation. While one sucks the other stands over me to allow some DATY. Then they switch etc. Both are talented and happy to be doing their job! This goes on for about twenty minutes and finally I let Lek have my load as she deep throats me while Pai is licking my scrotum....Pure Joy!
They both seemed so happy to please! Gosh LOS is wonderful! We all get dressed and go sit on the couch for another 40 minutes or so. It is a slow time and both really seemed to enjoy my company so we sit and fondle some more, giggle some more and in general just have a great time for all!
Before you know it I am at full attention again but a dinner commitment is pending and it it is nearly 7pm (2 hours!).
So I have to "check bin" and leave. But what a reat afternoon! Here was the damage:
BJ = 2 X 700 = 1400
3 beers 3 X 85 = 255
2 lady drinks 2 X 100 = 200
ttl = 1855 bath
tip = 2 X 200 = 400 which neither asked for nor expected
Grand total = 2255 or 70 USD - 2 hours of fun!
Bottom Line: This place was a total joy. It exceeded my expectations. All the girls seemed really sweet and warm. No one rushed me and overall for this type of bar I thought the selection was very good. Out of the 12-15 girls I'd say 10 were doable. My other comparison for BJ bars is AfterSkool and Toy bar on Soi Cowboy. These girls were better and the atmosphere was more calm and less pressure. There was no "mobbing" and multiple request to buy drinks for the entire staff. Not sure how it is at night, but for an afternoon of frolicking it was great!
Again, these are not Thai Super models or 18 yo Uni students but considering the venue and price I find it highly recommendable and worth a try.
Star Of Light
Patpong II
Hours Daily 9am - 1am
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recent online date experiences
i and others have made general reference in the past to online dating sites as an alternative to the regular scene. when i was single (without a gf) i managed to rack up a slew of girls over the course of a couple of years. of the 60-70 i actually have had the time to meet, i'd say i've shagged about 50 or more and only because most of those remaining were either ugly, old or just too whacko.
while it is true that the majority of the girls on these sites are not p4p in the strictest sense, a fair number are looking for a sponsor or some form of support. their profiles often read something like, "i don't care about looks or how old you are, i just want someone with a good heart, to love me only and take care of me forever" - translation: "i want a farang sugar daddy who i will take care of (cook, clean, wash clothes and fuck to his heart's content) in exchange for money, gifts and a better life" - a fair trade, i suppose. in their minds, they are just following thai tradition where the man takes care of the woman and because most thai men are basically useless, irresponsible womanizers with no money, these girls think that farang are a better bet. they would all be shocked if someone ever lickened them to prostitutes. but, i would say from experience that the line between this and strict monetary exchange for services can sometimes be quite thin.
while i've generally hung up my online dating mantle, i still on rare occasion meet up with someone, if i think she's a "sure thing" and not going to take too much of my time (or hopefully cause me any trouble).
trouble is often what you get, though.
one recent one, who just by coincidence turned out to be an ex-student of mine from a few years ago, began as one of the most incredible fucks i've ever had and ended by being an absolute nut-job. she never wanted anything from me. although that could have changed, if i had seen her enough times. but, she quickly became obsessed with me, which she claimed actually began when she was my student in 2003. however, experience with these online girls will tell you that they all "fall in love" almost from the first time they meet you and many are just incredibly screwed up. she is the only tg who has ever un-nerved me. one night she went off the deep end because it seems i didn't quite share her obsession and didn't love her in the manner she wished (i had only met her twice, at this point). she threatened to come to my place with her brother, who she claimed was a cop and accuse me of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her. her line went something like "i'm thai people. who are you? you are nothing. who will the police believe?" this understandably freaked me out. as i was heading out so as to avoid what i believed to be a real threat and impending confrontation with her brother, she phoned me laughing saying she was just "kidding"----hahaha. really funny. i stupidly saw her one more time (she is an amazing fuck, and quite cute, so i wasn't thinking intelligently) and she turned really nuts after that, accusing me of lying to her and various other irrational accusations and threatened to go to my gf and tell her everything. for the record, i told her from the beginning that i had a gf and was only looking for a gig, which she seemed to accept, at least initially. she has fortunately backed off and i have for once wisely resisted temptation to meet her again. i haven't seen her for about 6 weeks. she did chat with me for the first time a couple of days ago and was quite friendly (weird!!!) and ended the brief chat with what i thought was a funny statement, "hope you're ok and thanks for all the sex". freak!
i have another, who i meet on semi-regular basis who is very close to that thin line. while i don't always give her some money, i occasionally do because she says she's broke or what have you. there is no pretense here on my part. it is what it is - cash for services. we meet at a short-time hotel, she is totally aware that she is strictly a fuck-friend and she seems content with that. however, she too would be horrified if i ever thought of her as a hooker. she sees herself as my mia noi or gig. i suppose she's a cut above p4p, if for no other reason than she will fuck as many times as i want and will pretty much do anything i ask.
lastly, i recently met an or nurse from a hospital in bangna on one of these sites. i was almost rude to her because i didn't feel like chatting, making useless small talk or pretending to be a nice guy in order to shag her. so, i told her flat out that i was just looking for a quick fuck and that was all. i've never done that before because most of these girls complain that a lot of farang guys on these sites are rude and just ask them for sex right away. i always play it very conservatively which most of the time pays off, anyway. but, i just felt like going straight for the jugular and to my surprise, she agreed. this of course made me suspicious right away. but, i was intrigued. so, i told her to meet me at nana (might as well really go for the whole short-time hotel, sleazy, direct approach!). i arrived at nana and immediately got a call saying she couldn't come - not really a surprise as i thought it was a little too good to be true. these girls will often play stupid games like this with you - flirting and lots of sexual innuendo. so, i left figuring it had all been a poor attempt at a joke on her part. 30 minutes later she called, had changed her mind and was on her way. oh, gawd! another freak! - but hey, it was a "freebie", right? i took her to the hotel on soi 7, used by eden, where she proceeded to feign shock: "i thought you were going to take me to your condo." i had always told her we would go to a hotel. she played shy and coy with me which seemed absurd given where we were with all those cheesy mirrors and etched naked girls. i was in a hurry, so i just moved in and of course her rediculous pretense of innocence melted away. there was something suspiciously "bar-girl" about her demeanor, although she spoke no english at all. but, i saw her nurse id, not to mention she had her uniform with her. so, that part was at least legit. she was a crap fuck, though and not all that pleasant a person nor my type at all, either - came from buriram, my least favorite province (yecchhh!!). but, that's the chance you take. the kicker of course was as we were walking back to the bts (she was actually on her way to work when she met me) she said, "mai mee tang" (don't have money). "ah, the shoe has finally dropped", i thought. i ignored her pretending not to hear. but, she repeated it a couple of times (really annoying) until i finally asked, how much? "up to you". the only english she ever spoke to me (funny). so, i gave her 500 baht and she seemed quite pleased, so not a hardened pro, anyway. i found her really annoying and somewhat unpleasant, though and have decided not to repeat although she has called and tried to chat online a couple of times.
i might get some heat for this. but, i'm going to post a rather demure pic of her (eyes blurred, though). she sent this to me and the interesting thing about it is that she doesn't look nearly as good as she does in this pic, with her apparent smooth, tanned skin. although even in the pic, i thought she was rather ordinary, but still worth a shot. she was rather older looking despite being only 25 and had blotchy, quite dark skin - not my taste at all - although she had a nice body.
perhaps, later i'll write about some of my earlier success stories with online dating. i've had mainly good experiences with only a relatively few, but quite memorable horror shows. these were just a few to start with. btw, as i was typing this, i had a girl from phitsanolok, who i have never chatted with before start chatting with me. she will be passing through bkk tonight on her way to phuket to a new job and wanted to stay at my place until her morning flight - a definite one off. unfortunately the gf is here or i might have risked it. i'm sure it would have been another can of worms. but, i'm always intrigued and tempted by these types of "falling into your lap" situations. :d