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Lorenzo,
You are proof positive that one cannot judge the wisdom and empathy of an ISG member by the number of his posts. Is Rio superior to San Jose from a mongering standpoint? Of course! Does that mean that mongers who enjoy frequenting San Jose are necessarily "amateurs?" Of course not. From Denver, Rio costs at least twice as much to travel to and involves much more transit time. San Jose is simply a pleasant spot for those of us who can only get away for a few days and know enough of the local scene to invariably find an ample supply of sexy ladies at a reasonable price. Give me 3 weeks off and I'll opt for Buenos Aires, Rio, or points in Thailand every time. Allow me only a week or less, I'll take San Jose, thank you very much.

Mr Jetsetter,

Your entire post is pointless, since it doesn't contradict anything I said in any of my posts. If you had read my posts a little more carefully, you would have noted the following:

[QUOTE=Lorenzo]All this is not to say that there is no reason not to monger in CR. As Prolijo points out, it is much easier to get to from the US than Rio. Moreover, the dollar has taken a beating against the real, whereas the dollar is more or less the second currency in CR. The city as a whole is monger friendly, and there is a plethora of mongering spots, all of them amply documented on this forum, and most overrun with the aforementioned louts.

The bottom line: CR is worth experiencing at least once, but then what mongering site isn't?

Lorenzo[/QUOTE]

Isn't that exactly what you said?

Prolijo,

I think you are missing my point, which is that Rio has it all over CR with respect to both mongering and non-mongering, something I thought I had made quite clear.

Anyway, let's move on.

L

Lorenzo,
Oh, really? You specifically stated, "CR for the amatuer..." Actually, I relish the snobs who criticize CR -- perhaps their comments will help decrease the monger "surplus population."

Those who love Brasil, keep going, Those who love Costa Rica, keep going, and those who need advice on which to go to, keep reading, both the Brasil and the costa Rica boards and make your decision based on your own likes and financial situation. All of our comments here are personnal prefererence and not right or wrong.


"And you can address me as your honor" (quotes taken from a few Good Men)
"I am quite sure I have earned it".

[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I am quite puzzled by Prolijo's comment that CR is "much more interesting" than Rio. I realize that YMMV, but Prolijo, what have you been smoking? There is NOTHING interesting about San Jose[/QUOTE]I guess I missed your point because what you said made absolutely no sense. Re-read what you posted. My saying [u][b]CR as a whole[/u][/b] was more interesting than Rio was somehow ludicrous to you because just [u][b]San Jose[/b][/u] itself was uninteresting. You seemed to be completely disregarding that I was CLEARLY referring to CR as a whole and you clearly weren't.

It makes me wonder at any point during the quick bus trip through Central America that made you such an expert, traveling from one urban jungle to the next (because, as in most developing countries, those are the only places that are centers for mongering along with being overrun with the unemployed, poverty, crime and smog), whether you ever really took the time away from your mongering to get out of those urban pits to see the REAL country.

Anyway, NOW you're claiming something more than what you said in your reference to me - that Rio has it all over [u][b]CR[/b][/u]. Plus you're saying, as you were before about San Jose, that assessment applies with respect to both mongering and non-mongering. You MIGHT be able to support the claim that 95% of mongers prefer Rio over SJ [b]in general[/b], but you shouldn't infer that they'd also agree with you on [b]both[/b] those counts. As before, we both agree regarding just the mongering, but clearly there is still room for disagreement with others, even on that point, as shown by Dodger Bulldog's review. And he is probably more objective than either of us since he is mainly a BA monger with no parochial bias to either Rio or SJ. I still disagree with you regarding the non-mongering aspects when considering the nearby regions as a whole, which you appear to know nothing about, and I gave a solid basis for my own assessment.

It is fair enough for guys to have different perspectives, not only in how they prioritize different aspects of various places but also in how they assess a particular aspect, particularly if they can cite valid rationales for their opinions, which we each did. [b]It is not only unfair but even comes off as unbelievably demeaning and arrogant to suggest that anyone who disagrees with you must either be "smoking" something, "laughable" fools or rank "amateurs". If its a choice between snobby self-styled "connoisseurs" in Rio and allegedly rank "amateurs" in CR, this experienced vet will take the company of the latter.[/b]

You guys have over 1000 posts between you, Please, lets move on and just agree that no one needs to get the "last word" on the subject.

[QUOTE=Fantasy] those who need advice on which to go to, keep reading, both the Brasil and the costa Rica boards and make your decision based on your own likes and financial situation. All of our comments here are personnal prefererence and not right or wrong.[/QUOTE]I agree completely with Fantasy.

I am not going to engage in name calling or meaningless platitudes. To each his own.

For those of you investigating the matter, I think that the photos will speak for themselves.

These are links to the Brazilians found on yesterday's photo thread (9/21/07). I included the ones that show both faces and bodies.

See how attracted you are to the faces. Note if the asses seem approriate for your taste. Don't forget to check what the girls are carrying around the middle. And compare the comments on service, good and bad.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646691&postcount=1815[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646688&postcount=1814[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646676&postcount=1811[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646636&postcount=1808[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646628&postcount=1805[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646616&postcount=1800[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646613&postcount=1799[/url]

I find these current photos to be a very fair representation of the garotas and in line with what I found in Rio. So if these girls do it for you, you should be happy there.

Personally, I think a couple of them look doable.

I had traveled several thousand miles, and spent quite a bit of money on the airfare, the visa, and lodging. I had to ask myself, "For this?"

Not to mention that the garotas fees are running just about double the Tica fees with the current weakness of the dollar in Brazil.

By the time I added together all of the costs I could have stayed home and taken my chances on just as many CL girls and thrown in a couple of street walkers to boot for less than I spent on my trip to Brazil. But I would have missed the exotic locale and the scenery in Rio, which was great.

My subjective analysis: You should go to Rio if you would like the scenery and the coolness of the destination, and then as an added bonus have fun sampling the garotas while you are there. But it is not worth a trip just for the girls.

Just for fun, compare the garotas' looks to this much less expensive team of chicas from my trip to CR in July:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=620941&postcount=1051[/url]

I know that many guys get very attached to their favorite mongering haunt, just as I am attached to Buenos Aires. And it is certainly true that Rio has more than its fair share of devotees.

So I feel like that little boy who was the only one in the crowd not afraid to challenge the popular beliefs of the mob when he called out that "the emperor has no clothes!''

DB,
(just your basic rank "amateur")

Dodger I agree whole heartedly, between your line up from July and mine from August I find it hard to believe that Rio would be any better. Especially when you factor in the price. My entire trip ran $1800, airfare,taxis, hotel, gifts for family, gambling, drinking, eating, and 11 taps of the Tica Keg. If $$ was no object sure I would go to Rio for the adventure of it, but CR is right there, $180 round trip, MP's are great, HDR is what it is, Disney World for men.

See you in November!!

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]I agree completely with Fantasy.

I am not going to engage in name calling or meaningless platitudes. To each his own.

For those of you investigating the matter, I think that the photos will speak for themselves.

These are links to the Brazilians found on yesterday's photo thread (9/21/07). I included the ones that show both faces and bodies.

See how attracted you are to the faces. Note if the asses seem approriate for your taste. Don't forget to check what the girls are carrying around the middle. And compare the comments on service, good and bad.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646691&postcount=1815[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646688&postcount=1814[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646676&postcount=1811[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646636&postcount=1808[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646628&postcount=1805[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646616&postcount=1800[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=646613&postcount=1799[/url]

I find these current photos to be a very fair representation of the garotas and in line with what I found in Rio. So if these girls do it for you, you should be happy there.

Personally, I think a couple of them look doable.

I had traveled several thousand miles, and spent quite a bit of money on the airfare, the visa, and lodging. I had to ask myself, "For this?"

Not to mention that the garotas fees are running just about double the Tica fees with the current weakness of the dollar in Brazil.

By the time I added together all of the costs I could have stayed home and taken my chances on just as many CL girls and thrown in a couple of street walkers to boot for less than I spent on my trip to Brazil. But I would have missed the exotic locale and the scenery in Rio, which was great.

My subjective analysis: You should go to Rio if you would like the scenery and the coolness of the destination, and then as an added bonus have fun sampling the garotas while you are there. But it is not worth a trip just for the girls.

Just for fun, compare the garotas' looks to this much less expensive team of chicas from my trip to CR in July:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=620941&postcount=1051[/url]

I know that many guys get very attached to their favorite mongering haunt, just as I am attached to Buenos Aires. And it is certainly true that Rio has more than its fair share of devotees.

So I feel like that little boy who was the only one in the crowd not afraid to challenge the popular beliefs of the mob when he called out that "the emperor has no clothes!''

DB,
(just your basic rank "amateur")[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prolijo]It makes me wonder at any point during the quick bus trip through Central America that made you such an expert, traveling from one urban jungle to the next (because, as in most developing countries, those are the only places that are centers for mongering along with being overrun with the unemployed, poverty, crime and smog), whether you ever really took the time away from your mongering to get out of those urban pits to see the REAL country.[/b][/QUOTE]
I traveled by air, not by bus, and it wasn't quick, it lasted 30 days. And I visited rural areas in CA, not just urban: Tikal, Copan, rural Belize, etc. I have also visited 10 countries in South America, a few in the Caribbean, and many in Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Pacific, a total of 79 countries to date on the Travelers Century Club List: [url]http://www.travelerscenturyclub.org/[/url] So get your facts straight before you make accusations. I have mongered all over the world, so I am quite qualified to make comparisons regarding mongering and non-mongering aspects of different countries. And it is not "snobbery" to value taste and discrimination.

L

I'm sorry but suggesting some sort of exclusive possesion of "taste and dsicrimination" reeks of snobbery. Is simply having taste and discrimination snobbery? No, however it is snobbery to look down your noise at people who have different tastes than yours and confuse that with somehow being more discriminating. I'm not so full of myself to think that my views on the subject are more than just that - an opinion. Like I said before I actually agree with you that mongering in Rio beats CR, but the difference is I can also respect DB's differing opinion. IMHO, CR beats Rio in other ways. You obviously disagree. However, unlike you, in stating my reasons for my differing point of view I also at least acknowledged where others having different wants and needs might evaluate it differently (e.g. Rio being better suited than CR for urban beach lovers).

I've "only" been to about 30 countries on 4 continents myself (but then, I'm not on some sort of quest to boost a country count just so I can join an exclusive "century club"). However, I [b]HAVE[/b] spent a few months of that in CA and can tell you that in fact 30 days in CA [b]IS[/b] very quick [b]IF[/b] you're trying to cover all the way from Belize to Panama. Seven countries in 30 days is only a bit more than 4 days per country. If you visited more than just each capital, that comes out to no more than a couple of days in each place on average. I'm sorry but that is not the way to get a complete and balanced view of each stop. Particularly if you spent a good portion of your time in many of those places mongering, you'd only be scratching the surface of non-mongering things to do in each place. If that is the way you visited Rio, it wouldn't surprise me at all that you didn't run out of things to do. Or if you spent less than a week in CR, it wouldn't surprise me at all that you mistakenly think it has no more to offer than Rio in terms of non-mongering. Exactly how many days did you spend in SJ to make this harsh and absolute conclusion and how many of those did you spend visiting places outside the city? I may not have gotten the exact details of your trip straight, but the I think the essential point is still there.

[QUOTE=Prolijo]....but then, I'm not on some sort of quest to boost a country count just so I can join an exclusive "century club"). QUOTE]
You're right, that's exactly what I'm doing. How clever of you to figure that out! Only 21 countries to go. Then I can hobnob with people as sophisticated as me. :cool: Any suggestions? It's hard deciding where to go next when you've been just about everywhere. :(

L

[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I can hobnob with people as sophisticated as me. :cool: [/QUOTE]Ignore him Prolijo, he is just trying to pull your chain.

Most people can see that someone who has to scream his own praises suffers from a severe inferiority complex. How sad.

It is pathetic that he has completely destroyed his credibility on this board with such arrogance.

I am still waiting for "easily 95%" of the others to join him in his opinion here. It sure looks like he is completed deluded about that, also.

DB

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Ignore him Prolijo, he is just trying to pull your chain.

Most people can see that someone who has to scream his own praises suffers from a severe inferiority complex. How sad.

It is pathetic that he has completely destroyed his credibility on this board with such arrogance.

I am still waiting for "easily 95%" of the others to join him in his opinion here. It sure looks like he is completed deluded about that, also.

DB[/QUOTE]
You and Prolijo really need to lighten up. Can't you tell when something is tongue in cheek? Apparently not. I guess sublety isn't you guys' forte.

L

[QUOTE=Lorenzo]You and Prolijo really need to lighten up. Can't you tell when something is tongue in cheek? Apparently not. I guess sublety isn't you guys' forte.

L[/QUOTE]L,
I think we [b]ALL[/b] need to lighten up, [b]INCLUDING YOU[/b]. Why did you include me when you addressed your last post? I saw your emoticons in that post and realized you were just trying to be a wise-ass, that is why I personally didn't say anything in response to it. However there didn't appear to be anything tongue-in-cheek about your earlier posts, which I did reply to. They were just smug. Besides, thinking you're some sort of expert on a place just because you passed through it on an "If its Tuesday, this must be Belgium" tour is hardly taking oneself lightly.

Personally, I think this whole series has played itself out. Its all been said and "I would wager a guess that if you took a survey of all the mongers on this forum... easily 95% would choose" to change the discussion to something else :). Show of hands? In case you missed my subtlety, these last few comments are "tongue-in-cheek" too. ;)

[QUOTE=Prolijo] However there didn't appear to be anything tongue-in-cheek about your earlier posts, which I did reply to. They were just smug.....
Personally, I think this whole series has played itself out. [/QUOTE]
I agree that this whole discourse has just about played itself out. When I asked you what you had been smoking, that was intended to be tongue in cheek, but you took offense when none was intended. That's why I included you in my remarks. And IMHO it doesn't take that long to size a place--or people, for that matter--up. You seem to have considerable self-awareness, as indicated by your choice of screen name, which also indicates an ability to laugh at yourself. This is an admirable quality that everyone should cultivate.

That having been said, I'll add that there is nothing wrong with having a healthy dose of ego. That's why I love this forum: a bunch of opinionated bastards trying to present their view of the world for all to hear, while still being willing to help each other out. One more thing: most humble people have good reason to be humble. :D:

Peace, good traveling, and good mongering to all.

L