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[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2468308]Great report, but I have to disagree on the economies recovery. I think some counties may not recover or it will take years. I honestly feel when it is all said and done the financial issues will end up be much worse then the actual virus. Especially is the media keeps lying.[/QUOTE]I think there will be a lot of people out of jobs until they update their skills if there are still jobs for them. Many people are already saying that the we are going thru a huge wealth transfer so the economy won't be the same.
Just look at college towns. They will all be empty this coming year. The landlord won't have rental income. This will be at least a year, and not to mention the quality of the education will suffer as well.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2468347]Do you think Americans stranded in communist countries like Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, or even China are in a hurry go back to US now? The answer can be either way but I think it shows the irony in that people have more freedom because they are willing to sacrifice some freedom.[/QUOTE]No. Because we are only visitors in these places, which is much different from being a citizen. Here in Thailand I don't have to worry about some things the government may pass because I am not a part of Thai society. I don't have to worry about being held back and not being able to make enough money.
Big thing here is that it is illegal to talk bad about Thai royalty. You will be thrown in jail. Besides that, I pay my rent and wake up and go about my day without any thought of the governmental or social structure in the country. And I can leave anytime. I am basically a fly on the wall and as long as nobody tries to swat me or shoo me away I am fine. I do not exist with the same worries as a normal citizen does.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468357]No. Because we are only visitors in these places, which is much different from being a citizen. Here in Thailand I don't have to worry about some things the government may pass because I am not a part of Thai society. I don't have to worry about being held back and not being able to make enough money. Big thing here is that it is illegal to talk bad about Thai royalty. You will be thrown in jail. Besides that, I pay my rent and wake up and go about my day without any thought of the governmental or social structure in the country. And I can leave anytime. I am basically a fly on the wall and as long as nobody tries to swat me or shoo me away I am fine. I do not exist with the same worries as a normal citizen does.[/QUOTE]But you do have to follow the law which may limit your privacy, and freedom. This is the point I am trying to get to. I happen to observe Americans don't want to go back to US even when flight is available. Especially many will reach the 180 days visa limit soon and they are complaining they have to leave but won't be allowed to do visa run because of entry ban.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2468364]But you do have to follow the law which may limit your privacy, and freedom. This is the point I am trying to get to.[/QUOTE]I think that Americans mistake the tolerance the government gives them to complain with freedom and privacy. I saw a meme yesterday that the government assigned numbers to each American, they make them pay taxes every year, etc. And they think they are free and have privacy? Funny.
I was messing with a chick here in April but she disappeared. The other day she hit me up. I asked what happened. She said she was in jail. Said the police picked her up at a hotel in Bangkok. I said how did they know where you were. She said because of her cell phone. Same thing in America.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468371]I think that Americans mistake the tolerance the government gives them to complain with freedom and privacy.[/QUOTE]The tolerance the government gives them? Are you an American? Really?
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Any idea what the quote above is?
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2468435]The tolerance the government gives them? Are you an American? Really?
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Any idea what the quote above is?[/QUOTE]Well it seems the word was not passed that Breonna Taylor had that right seeing that she was barged in on and killed while she was peacefully sleeping in her own house. Word also must not have been received that Japanese Americans had that right before being thrown into internment camps. Then I remember Julius and Ethel Rosenburg who did not get that right. Central Park 5? That right got skipped right over them. Yes I said tolerance. You get what they want you to have when they want you to have it.
Damn. I almost forgot about the Patriot Act which wanted to formally throw that right right out the window! "Two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional because they allow search warrants to be issued without a showing of probable cause, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.Sep 27, 2007"
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[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2468308]Great report, but I have to disagree on the economies recovery. I think some counties may not recover or it will take years. I honestly feel when it is all said and done the financial issues will end up be much worse then the actual virus. Especially is the media keeps lying.[/QUOTE]As long as there are people left alive, there will be an economy. The further it gets knocked down the quicker it recovers. Look at 2008. It took less than 2 years to begin to recover and 5 years for an almost complete recovery.
The financial issues exist either way. What's the patient burden for a 45 day ICU stay, in the US? $200 k? $500 k? What's the cost to a company forced to shutdown because too many employees are sick? What's the hit to state tax revenues when people aren't spending money?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468371]I think that Americans mistake the tolerance the government gives them to complain with freedom and privacy. I saw a meme yesterday that the government assigned numbers to each American, they make them pay taxes every year, etc. And they think they are free and have privacy? Funny.
I was messing with a chick here in April but she disappeared. The other day she hit me up. I asked what happened. She said she was in jail. Said the police picked her up at a hotel in Bangkok. I said how did they know where you were. She said because of her cell phone. Same thing in America.[/QUOTE]Heck, way back in 1982 the cops found me at the laundromat and literally nobody who knew me, knew I was doing laundry that day. Granted, I'm sure my buddy, or accomplice, gave them my name and a description of my truck, but it sure didn't take them long to find me.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468517]Well it seems the word was not passed that Breonna Taylor had that right seeing that she was barged in on and killed while she was peacefully sleeping in her own house. Word also must not have been received that Japanese Americans had that right before being thrown into internment camps. Then I remember Julius and Ethel Rosenburg who did not get that right. Central Park 5? That right got skipped right over them. Yes I said tolerance. You get what they want you to have when they want you to have it.
Damn. I almost forgot about the Patriot Act which wanted to formally throw that right right out the window! "Two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional because they allow search warrants to be issued without a showing of probable cause, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.Sep 27, 2007"[/QUOTE]Another very fine post! And another tip of my hat to you, Mr. E! There is certainly no sleeping on the job of life for you! Slightly off-topic. But who am I to complain about that, given my recent posts? Keep it up!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468517]Well it seems the word was not passed that Breonna Taylor had that right seeing that she was barged in on and killed while she was peacefully sleeping in her own house. Word also must not have been received that Japanese Americans had that right before being thrown into internment camps. Then I remember Julius and Ethel Rosenburg who did not get that right. Central Park 5? That right got skipped right over them. Yes I said tolerance. You get what they want you to have when they want you to have it.
Damn. I almost forgot about the Patriot Act which wanted to formally throw that right right out the window! "Two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional because they allow search warrants to be issued without a showing of probable cause, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.Sep 27, 2007"[/QUOTE]Let's not forget RICO from the early 80's. Pretty much granted unlimited search and seizure for anything which could in any way he connected to organized crime.
DEA brought the dogs onboard a NOAA (National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration) research ship, found one crew member had brought a joint aboard, so they took possession of the ship. It was legally theirs, because one guy had a joint and drugs are considered organized crime. Fortunately, someone stepped in and returned the ship to the NOAA.
Probable cause has been extended to be anything. All the officer needs to say is, "I smelled marijuana", or alcohol. Anyone who thinks the Fourth Amendment is alive and well, has been living under a rock.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468517]Well it seems the word was not passed that Breonna Taylor had that right seeing that she was barged in on and killed while she was peacefully sleeping in her own house. Word also must not have been received that Japanese Americans had that right before being thrown into internment camps. Then I remember Julius and Ethel Rosenburg who did not get that right. Central Park 5? That right got skipped right over them. Yes I said tolerance. You get what they want you to have when they want you to have it.
[/QUOTE]LOL. I am completely confused. You just listed a bunch of government conspiracies, but there is not one going on right now with Covid?
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2468560]LOL. I am completely confused. You just listed a bunch of government conspiracies, but there is not one going on right now with Covid?[/QUOTE]I did not list any conspiracies. I listed people that got fucked over with a right they supposedly had.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468651]I did not list any conspiracies. I listed people that got fucked over with a right they supposedly had.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I wasn't paying attention, or I would have translated that for you.
Anything which goes against Elvirus' current "theory" is a conspiracy. If Elvirus goes to McDonald's and orders a Big Mac without onions, if he finds any onions, or believes that onions were possibly put on and removed, it's because the liberals are trying to poison him and blame it on Trump in order to implicate a few right wing crackpots in Bulgaria as friends of Jeffrey Epstein. He will then point out that apple pie is popular in Ecuador, proving conclusively that Biden, Clinton, or Obama is actually a Russian secret agent attempting to steal the secret recipe from KFC in order to bring about the downfall of Democracy and keep him from having a date with 6 current South American Miss Universe contestants.
Does it make sense now?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468651]I did not list any conspiracies.[/QUOTE]It actually helps if you know what words mean. In the case of conspiracy, the word means "a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose."
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[QUOTE=Puntz79;2464844]The strategy these days for the left since March. Put out a death estimate, wait 2-3 weeks. Add xx,000 to the previous number, add 1-2 months and repeat. In March it was 100,000 deaths by May, then 120,000 by June, then 150,000 by August, and now the most recent one yesterday was 208,000 by November. At some point you just have to wonder, do they think we haven't figured it out, or won't be able to? People are tired of the negativity and want to get back to normal, not the "new normal" the old normal that can be improved upon when it comes to health. And Dr. Fauci has been wrong every single time since March, even he looks like he wants to just move forward because he doesn't like to be wrong.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2464874]As of today, July 8, it is 134,027 deaths in USA (including those who take chloroquine or bleach) and 547,632 in the world.
3 M detected cases in USA over a population of 328 M is less than 1%, so there is still a big improvement margin available for Dem plots and fake news.[/QUOTE]
Latest update from USA (20/07/2020):
Total deaths: 143,834 (recent rate: +500 to +1000 per day).
Total cases: 3,961,429 (recent rate: +60k to +70k per day).
It looks like 150k deaths will be hit before August, and silencing Fauci does not seem an effective strategy to contain the virus spread.