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[QUOTE=Forest;2243924]I have found a few (maybe 50% of the girls I contacted) who are willing to be my vacation GF. Some ask for money, but many do not. I am happy to set a price in advance, but I have no idea what this entails.
Generally, I take the girls for dinner, go out dancing, and take them back to my hotel for the night, which includes late night and morning sessions.
Advice would be appreciated, as although there are some guys into this type of lady, pricing is rarely discussed. The goal is to have a happy lady without breaking the bank. I am generally willing to go as high as 5000.[/QUOTE]You are very generous and seems like you want to have a connection with the girl. But some girls may mistake your generosity for weakness and try to exploit it. I would suggest not offering anything upfront (you'd pay for everything, anyway), but if she made you happy during the vacation, give her a nice "gift". I have never done it but thought about it a couple of times.
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[QUOTE=JeraldoRivera;2243537]Thanks! I had not heard of thermae before but its right by my hotel so I hope to learn all about it! How much should I expect to pay for a 30 min fukey sukey? I regret not staying over at phrom phong bts as my hyper vigilante partner will be watching me like a hawk and its going to be hard to explain extended disappearances.[/QUOTE]Oh you're in for a treat! Thermae is a Bangkok institution! It's been there for quite a while Opened in 1966! Many a Vietnam vet has been there. It has seen better days. Today, you will see a whole bunch of people sitting around an oval bar and whole bunch more along the walls of the room. The lights are bright. The music is bad. And there is smoke in the air! The place is full of East Asian men. Primarily Japanese and Korean. And a whole bunch of young Thai women who dress and put on make up and develop mannerisms to look like young Japanese women! Which is weird, right?! You are going after Japanese men who probably slept with a lot of Japanese women and you are made up like a Japanese girl. Anyway, I would not pay more than 1000 B for short time. Thermae gets going early and goes late Enjoy and post a report!!
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[QUOTE=DonkeyLeg;2242831]Some members seem to have taken an interest in Jabkasai. I had my third session recently and decided been there done that enough. I enjoyed the novelty / curiosity first couple of times but the lack of sensuality got to me last time. The orgasm was still there but the intensity was gone. I would love to hear about other member's experience.
Anyway moving on I now have two I think they are called giks. One works at Boots the other I'm still not sure exactly what she does. I give them both 10,000 a month and see them each four five times a month. They are totally different, the girl from Boots is shy the other is a total mad hatter. The sex with the mad hatter is amazing maybe because we are usually both pissed from a night out when we get at it. She seems open and tells me she has other sponsors who visit Thailand a few times a year. I like being with her but not as much as I do the other girl. She drinks very little, is introverted in a polite way but she is so so sweet. She is intelligent loves movies and music as I do and I think I'm falling for her. A big age difference, Scary!
I am relatively new here and confess I am no expert on Asian values but I am beginning to feel there are some marked differences with the West. The one I am most interested in at the moment because of my involvement with the girl from Boots is what love means here. I am slowly realizing it is more about family, social status and security and emotional love plays a relatively minor part in women's choices. A girl will measure how a man feels about her by how much he provides for her and how much security he can offer her. Is this the way it is, perhaps some more informed than I could offer some guidance. Life is getting a little more complicated.[/QUOTE]I think your instinct in the last paragraph is right on. There is more focus on the provider side and not so much on romantic love. But you know what? If you love this girl and she loves you back (sees you as provider) - that's fine. But think of the project ahead. You can slowly lead her into opening up to new things! Like a flower blossoming. That would be an adventure. But a woman is unlikeley to enjoy sex and be in love if she is not happy with you in general (Einstein).
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[QUOTE=HornDog3;2242677]2) Any place in BKK to get an American style Thanksgiving meal on Nov. 22 and / or watch NFL football?
The football games will be on Friday. The Thursday 11:30 am game will start at 12:30 am Friday. The Thursday 3:30 pm game will start at 4:30 am on Friday. The Thursday 7:20 pm game will start at 8:20 am on Friday.
The only place I can think of for watching the 8:20 am game is The Game. Breakfast is pretty good there.[/QUOTE]I watched football at Gulliver's on Soi 5 - a pub style bar with pool tables and lots of TVs. They will put it on for you if you ask. They have food also. It's a nice bar. You can actually relax without a whole bunch of girls bothering you. But there is enough eye candy to keep you happy. If you get bored, you can put your name in line for a pool game or two! They open at 11 AM. I did see a good sports bar at Raddison Blue. Can't remember the Soi. They'll probably have it. Good luck and post a report!!
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[QUOTE=Forest;2243924]I have found a few (maybe 50% of the girls I contacted) who are willing to be my vacation GF. Some ask for money, but many do not. I am happy to set a price in advance, but I have no idea what this entails.
Generally, I take the girls for dinner, go out dancing, and take them back to my hotel for the night, which includes late night and morning sessions.
Advice would be appreciated, as although there are some guys into this type of lady, pricing is rarely discussed. The goal is to have a happy lady without breaking the bank. I am generally willing to go as high as 5000.[/QUOTE]I have taken many girls on vacation. Ofcourse USA girls no money. Dominican girls to AI resorts. Costa Rican girls to Panama. Thai girls I have taken all over Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Macao. Philippines girls to many places in Philippines only. Chinese girls to all over China including couple for Yangtze cruise.
No money discused upfront. Those that set a fee I do not take. Because they think money only and not to enjoy with you. If a girl is willing and friendly after meeting and having fun I tend to take them on vacation. It makes like a romantic trip.
Yes, vacation becomes expensive. In USA the girl you take will pitch in or buy her own knickknacks and their own outfit. No money given to USA girls.
Asian girls I met are not rich and do not have anything. I have to buy clothes, swimwear, makeup kits etc before the trip. Once on the trip they want to buy gifts for family and friends mostly knickknacks. I need to pay for those. Air tickets, hotel, food are expensive st vacation places. After all that I do compensate her time. No set fee but need to give something. It depends what you feel like giving. 5000 baht a day maybe too much after all the expenses. More like 2000 a day.
If you meant you need a single girl to stay with you during your vacation you need to compensate according to the going rate. If they work in the bar they need to be compensated accordingly. But if they are normal girls from dating sites you generally give lumpsome at the end.
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[QUOTE=Crypton;2243949]Oh you're in for a treat! Thermae is a Bangkok institution! It's been there for quite a while Opened in 1966! Many a Vietnam vet has been there. It has seen better days. Today, you will see a whole bunch of people sitting around an oval bar and whole bunch more along the walls of the room. The lights are bright. The music is bad. And there is smoke in the air! The place is full of East Asian men. Primarily Japanese and Korean. And a whole bunch of young Thai women who dress and put on make up and develop mannerisms to look like young Japanese women! Which is weird, right?! You are going after Japanese men who probably slept with a lot of Japanese women and you are made up like a Japanese girl. Anyway, I would not pay more than 1000 B for short time. Thermae gets going early and goes late Enjoy and post a report!![/QUOTE]I go there every week. There is no smoke in the air, and the Japanese style is down to a smaller percentage than I have seen in years. There are more Koreans and Chinese now. The number of Falangs going seems to be increasing.
You ain't getting nothing out of there for 1000 B unless she is a dog and its closing time.
But Thermae will always be my favourite since my first trip way like 25 plus years ago.
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JeraldoRivera
[QUOTE=Crypton;2243949]Oh you're in for a treat! Thermae is a Bangkok institution! It's been there for quite a while Opened in 1966! Many a Vietnam vet has been there. It has seen better days. Today, you will see a whole bunch of people sitting around an oval bar and whole bunch more along the walls of the room. The lights are bright. The music is bad. And there is smoke in the air! The place is full of East Asian men. Primarily Japanese and Korean. And a whole bunch of young Thai women who dress and put on make up and develop mannerisms to look like young Japanese women! Which is weird, right?! You are going after Japanese men who probably slept with a lot of Japanese women and you are made up like a Japanese girl. Anyway, I would not pay more than 1000 B for short time. Thermae gets going early and goes late Enjoy and post a report!![/QUOTE]You will save a lot of money if you follow Crypton's advice about paying no more than 1000 baht, since no one will go with you. If you read this thread, the going rate is 2500 baht (maybe 2000 if she is not that attractive and / or desperate).
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[QUOTE=Crypton;2243950]I think your instinct in the last paragraph is right on. There is more focus on the provider side and not so much on romantic love. But you know what? If you love this girl and she loves you back (sees you as provider) - that's fine. But think of the project ahead. You can slowly lead her into opening up to new things! Like a flower blossoming. That would be an adventure. But a woman is unlikeley to enjoy sex and be in love if she is not happy with you in general (Einstein).[/QUOTE]DL's concerns about what love is all about for Asian girls are well founded but I would argue there is every possibility of him having a meaningful long term relationship with this girl.
Emotional / physical based love a la western values is usually a short lived phenomenon with a life span a couple of years. After that its compatibility shared interests family etc that decides the success or otherwise of where it goes next.
I would suggest he spends more time getting to know her better, enjoy the relationship without committing himself. I guess this is easy to say but nigh impossible when you are falling madly in love with a beautiful Thai girl. I know I've been there but even if it doesn't work out it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. I wish him luck.
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Geisha Line
Thanks yes, I found their Line. The manager on the other end messaged me in basic English, so that plus my basic Thai should be fine.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2243694]Maybe this helps even more:
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/3arqSyATXXE2[/URL]
Now you know exactly where and have the phone number. If phoning them, you might need a Thai speaker to help. LOL[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DonkeyLeg;2242831]I am relatively new here and confess I am no expert on Asian values but I am beginning to feel there are some marked differences with the West. The one I am most interested in at the moment because of my involvement with the girl from Boots is what love means here. I am slowly realizing it is more about family, social status and security and emotional love plays a relatively minor part in women's choices. A girl will measure how a man feels about her by how much he provides for her and how much security he can offer her. Is this the way it is, perhaps some more informed than I could offer some guidance. Life is getting a little more complicated.[/QUOTE]Along with my reply to Crypton's post for what it's worth may I offer the following advice.
Do not overspend I. E. Take her on a shopping spree to Gaysorn with stops at Louis's, Hermes and Prada. For sure the odd trinket to show your appreciation is allowed but lavish spending sends out the wrong signal.
As you say there is a big age difference and while I'm sure this girl is no hard core grifter you can never be certain what her true intentions are.
One last piece of advice if she ever asks for money for some family emergency while not always this is usually bad news.
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[QUOTE=Forest;2243924]I have found a few (maybe 50% of the girls I contacted) who are willing to be my vacation GF. Some ask for money, but many do not. I am happy to set a price in advance, but I have no idea what this entails.
Generally, I take the girls for dinner, go out dancing, and take them back to my hotel for the night, which includes late night and morning sessions.
Advice would be appreciated, as although there are some guys into this type of lady, pricing is rarely discussed. The goal is to have a happy lady without breaking the bank. I am generally willing to go as high as 5000.[/QUOTE]Huh? Why would you pay a girl you're dating any money? Some guys here really have strange ideas. Here is what I do: I just have a good time with them.
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[QUOTE=TigressWanted;2243871]I'm sure you noticed them selling plastic bottles of it, 2 sizes. Didn't see it in Bangkok 2 years ago but now its a thing. I drank a boat load during my stay, refreshing in the hot humid afternoon. Many health benefits too, read:
[URL]https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318385.php[/URL]
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Not sure about healthy. Most of it is fake. The fresh fruits and squeezer are just decoration. You'll get one of the bottles that contain mostly processed juice.
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[QUOTE=TigressWanted;2243871]I'm sure you noticed them selling plastic bottles of it, 2 sizes. Didn't see it in Bangkok 2 years ago but now its a thing. I drank a boat load during my stay, refreshing in the hot humid afternoon. Many health benefits too, read:
[URL]https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318385.php[/URL]
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Its always been in Bangkok, especially around tourist areas where it isn't pure Pom juice, but a mixture. If they squeeze it right in front of you. You win. But not many folks are winners.
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[QUOTE=Amnesia;2244101]Not sure about healthy. Most of it is fake. The fresh fruits and squeezer are just decoration. You'll get one of the bottles that contain mostly processed juice.[/QUOTE]And it's often cut with water or even something else. Nobody knows what's inside unless you bring it to a laboratory for a test. I had a Thai friend who had one friend of her who sold the orange juice bottles, she advised me to never buy these bottles as they were always cut with something. A few month ago it made the headlines with a video of Vietnamese preparing these bottles and laughing when putting some other stuffs inside. Thais in social media were very angry at them.
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Fun in the bar.
OK, so it seems FS is not really going to happen in the bar anymore, sign of the times I guess. So how about establishments where they'll pull it out and give you a tug? Apart from the obvious places on Soi Cowboy, anyone know of somewhere this is a regular thing done in a dark corner?