East China - Shanghai

the risk of getting pick pocketed outside malone's and manhattan is very real. i got pick pocketed!

this is the first time i have ever been pick pocketed anywhere including the rest of asia and europe. these girls descend on you. 5-6 girls at a time, they unrelentingly offer you their services and molest you all over so you can't tell someone has their hand in your pocket. as soon as they have your money, they rep001ter like cockroaches in separate directions and they are gone in a flash. these girls are very experienced. it only takes a few seconds and you don't know they pick pocketed you until they are gone.

i was not even close to drunk.

yes, they could have easily stolen my wallet from my front pocket but that will get them arrested and thrown in jail.

be very careful out there!

mab

[QUOTE=Carage; 1200773]Spent another quality two hours at SiYuan.

The two hotties I selected happened to be "volunteered" from Xinyuping. I've never heard of Xinyuping, but the girls' description of the place got me really excited.

They have 200 girls (well, the stage can only fit about 60 70 girls at a time though) on duty. This sounds like HK / Macau to me. Wow! I never knew such a place exists in Shanghai.

But there are also downsides, I work in Lujiaozui, but the place is on Lianhua Road / YiShan Road, very far away indeed.

What's worse, is there is never enough rooms at the place. So even if someone goes during lunch hour, the waiting period could be 1 hour or more.

And the place is like 10 years old, so don't expect the same level of hardware quality at the newer joints.

Has anyone been to Xinyuping? Care to comment on the things I heard?

I sure don't want to be stuck in traffic, then be stuck in a waiting room for the whole afternoon.[/QUOTE]I know XinyuPing very well, it's inside a hotel complex at the back, near the corner you mentioned. It's also a bit far as you said.

You make your pick from behind one-sided glass. The selection you get is indeed pretty big, but because they all get squashed into such a tiny space, you can't see the girls on the back row very well, you only get to see the ones in front properly. Not sure there really are 200 girls there, but selection is quite large as stated. It's pretty busy all the time, there's no really good time to go, except maybe Sunday afternoon. Either way you'll probably have to wait for a room. It's not actually that old, but the rooms aren't terribly large either. Some feauture side and celing mirrors at the bed, some don't.

Competition to work here is fierce as this is probably the busiest place in Shanghai right now. That also means the girls are just there to make a buck, it'll be much harder to get any freebies or meetings outside with them as their attitude is usually pretty mercenary. If you just want a quick screw, you will find something you like though, for sure.

I didn't report it since it was my first visit. I would have if it was the last visit.

Jon.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1200979]What feedback did you give management about 830? Did they understand your English?

Crappy service needs to be reported.

Just my opinion.

P13[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JubbleFun; 1200942]Coming to Shanghai soon. I have RTFF, Manhattan seems to be full of non-Chinese. So is there a similar bar where the Chinese girls can be found? And where? What should I pay?

Bodi and Merrilyn and Bodi seem to be prime targets, thanks guys.[/QUOTE]For Chinese freelancers there is not a "crowdy" place like Manhattan for non-Chinese. You will find some in Xintiandi (Paulaner and Luna Bar) , than also in Malones, Judys and in the 88 Bar. 88 Bar has more young nice girls than Malones, but this place is more focused on Chinese customers, so without some Chinese skills, I would not go there to pick up a girl. Price for Chinese girls will be a little bit higher than non-Chinese in Manhattan, so should start with 1000, but the more pretty ones will try to get at least 2000 for a overnight session. Enjoy and good luck for your hunting!

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1199915]Hi Arizona, the page is.

[url]www.private-escort-shanghai.com[/url]

(phone: (0086) 136-41988600) , and if you call the number there, you will talk with Coco directly. I just had a chat with her some minutes ago, she told me very funny stories again. Some days ago she introduced a Chinese escort page to me and asked me, if I think this girls can be interesting. It looks great (a lot of girls, sometimes pictures look "real", also many girls with english skills) , so I told her this kind of girls can be perfect. Now we chatted again and she told me, she now applied for membership (RMB 300) and start to contact the girls. After two days now she find only 1 real student there. And allready more than 200 agencies. Seems to be a crazy scamming market, not only for us "weiguoren", but also for the Chinese people on Chinese webpages.[/QUOTE]Any of you guys would like to help me to find Chinese freelance girls in Shanghai? I am getting crazy now, because nearly all girls I find in the internet are incredibly overpriced (they think 2000 RMB for one hour is a normal price! But I know there are many girls outside only want 1000 to 2000 for the whole night!) I now tried to go out to the bars to find this kind of girls there, but because I am also a woman, they will not talk with me. Also when I start chatting, they are afraid I work for the police and go away very fast. I went to Zabata and Manhattan last weekend, but only a lot of men around me the whole night, but I did not get in touch with even one Chinese girl. So my idea now: If one of you guys can help me, I would be very happy. If you like, you can talk with girls you meet about join my webpage? Or perhaps we go out together and if you get in contact with real freelance girls, you introduce them to me?

I would be very thankfull for any help.

[QUOTE=Porky9; 1193445]Originally Posted by Lost In Shanghai

I think it is new. There is a BBS at about 936 Changle Road, between Wulumuqi and Changshu Roads. Walked by a couple of times and the ladies were trying to wave me in. Really handy to the Hilton. Go south on Changshu to Changle, and turn right. Look for the green foot massage sign.

Not exactly a BBS. They have 5ish beds separated by just curtains for HJ + pointless clothed massage. Heavy upsell on the 2 girls. FS didn't seem to be available. MPs or other BBSes in the area seem like a better plan.[/QUOTE]My rule is don't kiss and tell but here is the exception. Ok so I went and got a safe foot massage. I felt like I was walking on pillows after. There was a distinct upsell to pointless clothed massage. I had a really good looking girl to. So I went back a couple of days later for the whole show with the same girl.

Don't worry about the pointless clothed massage. It only lasts for 25-30 seconds. Next comes the upsell to two girls. The second girl suggested that I could feel her boobies. However I already figured out the a one girl massage would also include touching so I declined. I had the best looking girl there already and she nicely let me feel her while she did a gentle HJ. The other girls seemed charming also. What more can I say. This should make me a senior member.

Specifically what other bbs in the area seems like a better plan.

First of all thanks to all the fellow mongers' posts. They are all great advise and you've made this "hobby" much more enjoyable and safe. Now that I've had the chance to scope out a few saunas and find a couple of my favorites, I have another question for the seniors.

For those of you who have done it, how do you get the girls to meet you outside of the saunas? Either for freebies or at a discounted price, how do you get them to meet you outside on a regular basis? I know it's all about trust and need to see them a few times at the saunas, etc. But do they just not go for it in general? Or is this something that is pretty common and easily arranged? I had given one of them my cell number but she didn't call but I wasn't really expecting her to either.

I have these two girls (from separate establishments) that I would sure like to have regular take-outs if possible. At least until I'm ready for some fresh meat. Would anyone like to share some of your experiences? As usual, thanks for your comments and inputs.

Ps: I'm fluent in Chinese so language is not an issue.

Just because she fucks some one well doesn't mean she will fuck everyone well. She will have likes and dislikes. They will all fuck you but there is considerable variety in the quality of the fucking.

[QUOTE=Private Coco; 1201148]Any of you guys would like to help me to find Chinese freelance girls in Shanghai? I am getting crazy now, because nearly all girls I find in the internet are incredibly overpriced (they think 2000 RMB for one hour is a normal price! But I know there are many girls outside only want 1000 to 2000 for the whole night!) I now tried to go out to the bars to find this kind of girls there, but because I am also a woman, they will not talk with me. Also when I start chatting, they are afraid I work for the police and go away very fast. I went to Zabata and Manhattan last weekend, but only a lot of men around me the whole night, but I did not get in touch with even one Chinese girl. So my idea now: If one of you guys can help me, I would be very happy. If you like, you can talk with girls you meet about join my webpage? Or perhaps we go out together and if you get in contact with real freelance girls, you introduce them to me?

I would be very thankfull for any help.[/QUOTE]Try [url]http://www.aish002.com/forum-37-1.html[/url]

Enjoy, but will you report?

Cheers.

P13

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1201275]Try.

[url]http://www.aish002.com/forum-37-1.html[/url]

Enjoy, but will you report?

Cheers.

P13[/QUOTE]Hi P13,

Thank you for the link. I also liked the pictures and the girls there very much and I was really hoping to find some girls for good price there. The pictures look very normal and I was thinking they should also be real, so I contacted all this girls from aish002 by qq last weeks, but not find one there till now. A very disappointing experience! If you try to meet them or at least want to have QQ-Webcam, they will block you on qq or have a excuse, why they can not, so I am sure the pictures are fake. Another point is, most of them don`t want to meet any western customers (especially for outcall) , because they can not speak any english. Finally I met 3 of this QQ-Girls, but all 3 very ugly, nothing to do with the pictures, so no chance to send them out to any customer without trouble later. I still have a list from of QQ-Girls from other Chinese page, but I am afraid it will not be much better.

What are some areas with massage with nice girls + HJ / BJ? Someone mentioned the spinning barber shop type poles places? Closest train stop? I would like to just walk around and explore some areas on foot.

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1201213]First of all thanks to all the fellow mongers' posts. They are all great advise and you've made this "hobby" much more enjoyable and safe. Now that I've had the chance to scope out a few saunas and find a couple of my favorites, I have another question for the seniors.

For those of you who have done it, how do you get the girls to meet you outside of the saunas? Either for freebies or at a discounted price, how do you get them to meet you outside on a regular basis? I know it's all about trust and need to see them a few times at the saunas, etc. But do they just not go for it in general? Or is this something that is pretty common and easily arranged? I had given one of them my cell number but she didn't call but I wasn't really expecting her to either.

I have these two girls (from separate establishments) that I would sure like to have regular take-outs if possible. At least until I'm ready for some fresh meat. Would anyone like to share some of your experiences? As usual, thanks for your comments and inputs.

Ps: I'm fluent in Chinese so language is not an issue.[/QUOTE]I think it is pretty common, and the girls will initiate the conversation if they are interested. But I'm Asian American, so things might be different.

After you become a regular at the sauna and reserve the same girl for a few times and she does not dislike you, usually she will offer to exchange phone numbers and / or MSN / QQ etc.

If she is serious, she will contact you. Sometimes at really weird times of the day. Like I once got a call for dinner at 2:30AM. I also got another offer to deflower some girl's cousin.

For security and privacy purposes, I almost always politely decline.

The girl's phone number only serves 3 purposes for me: 1. Find out if the place is open for business, especially if I hear news of raids going on 2. Minimize waiting time 3. Know who else is there if she is not available.

I'm not sure about success stories, but I have heard too many stories that did not go well. Usually once the monger and the girl starts meeting outside and start exchanging money, things go down the hill. Sooner or later, it's going to be the "my cousin / sibling / nephew / grandma / mother is hospitalized / in poverty / dead / missing" story, then the girl will ask for $$$$$$$. If you don't payup, then things might not be pretty. I know someone who lost his job because the girl decided to show up in his office one day and made a scene.

I believe the sauna management method exists for a reason (ie, keeping your wallet in the locker) , preventing private exchange of cash makes things much more easier for everyone.

I've decided to put my hypothesis to a test, and 881 is great! Nice body and superb skills.

Apparently she does not like working with other girls, and it shows. I'm glad that she performs much better alone.

She is not talkative, and decides to put her mouth to work wonders on the body.

Just beware that when she gives you a thorough service, there might not be enough "interaction" time for people who have slow-loading guns.

On a sidenote, the jacuzzi was lukewarm today. Had to ask the attendant to refill the pool with hot water.

Had my earwax cleaned afterwards, it appears the ear-cleaning lady at SiYuan does not offer the "kidney massage".

At least she did not offer to upsell.

Actually I haven't had much of a problem myself getting numbers / contact info from sauna girls either. And I've had a couple of girls with whom I got contact information on our first meeting (one in Macau and one in Zhuhai). Some of the things are out of your control. I'm Chinese-American, in good physical shape, not bad looking, and I can converse in fairly fluent Mandarin.

I'd guess communication is the first and biggest barrier. There's not much chance you're going to have any chemistry with the girl if you're relegated to using translation apps. For me it's pretty simple. Treat the girl with respect, make it clear you're having a good time, and show some interest in the girl as a person. Beyond that it's just luck, just like clicking with any other woman (except you're meeting sauna girls in a rather different circumstance).

AZ,

Have had numerous take outs from massage places. Freebies are tough, but discounts are done. Key is to build a relationship, discuss take away options, etc. I like to get thier phone number so I can text to see if she's working. This is good for arranging an in-house or a take away. With massage take away, I usually pay the standard fare to the house (discounted for a VIP card) , then tip up the girl 400. Total damage 700, but you get a nice couple hour no rush GFE FS in the privacy of your own place (treat them nice, through in a cocktail). Have also had girls who have changed estabishments come over after work, usually midnight or later based on their schedule and just tip them up, no house charge.

Overall not hard to arrange. I like to keep two or three rotating so that they know there is competition, thus do not get demanding or greedy.

SH

[QUOTE=Arizona123; 1201213]First of all thanks to all the fellow mongers' posts. They are all great advise and you've made this "hobby" much more enjoyable and safe. Now that I've had the chance to scope out a few saunas and find a couple of my favorites, I have another question for the seniors.

For those of you who have done it, how do you get the girls to meet you outside of the saunas? Either for freebies or at a discounted price, how do you get them to meet you outside on a regular basis? I know it's all about trust and need to see them a few times at the saunas, etc. But do they just not go for it in general? Or is this something that is pretty common and easily arranged? I had given one of them my cell number but she didn't call but I wasn't really expecting her to either.

I have these two girls (from separate establishments) that I would sure like to have regular take-outs if possible. At least until I'm ready for some fresh meat. Would anyone like to share some of your experiences? As usual, thanks for your comments and inputs.

Ps: I'm fluent in Chinese so language is not an issue.[/QUOTE]