[QUOTE=Piedipie;2265997]Can you please suggest some bars? I have been to T-Ded 99 and had a good experience.[/QUOTE]The only other one worth going to now is the one next to there but on the side street.
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[QUOTE=Piedipie;2265997]Can you please suggest some bars? I have been to T-Ded 99 and had a good experience.[/QUOTE]The only other one worth going to now is the one next to there but on the side street.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2265972]Exactly. We are all spending thousands here on women so what's an extra $10. If the Japanese condoms fit you there's no need to bother with these. On the other hand if you've found there's no way those condoms would ever go on then these are the ones to try. Again, these are not perfect by a long shot but they are worth a try. I've used them on many many Thai girls without one questioning them, they'll pick up the odd credit card sized package and say "condom?" to which I reply "Japanese" followed by "go doggy" and to a T they've all just turned around and bent over.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Catire;2265725]What are the best (thinnest) or polyurethane rubbers you can get in BKK pharmacies?[/QUOTE]If I'm ever stuck using a condom, I always go for this 40 Baht brand. Closest thing to BB I have experienced while using a condom.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2266063]If I'm ever stuck using a condom, I always go for this 40 Baht brand. Closest thing to BB I have experienced while using a condom.[/QUOTE]I never thought I was hung like a horse until I tried to get one of those Okos onto my cock.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2266048]Today I was surfing TF for a house call and found this real cutie. 23 years old. . I managed to snap a a few photos while taking a break from doggy and before she left and will also include some stock photos from her TF and Line. .[/QUOTE]I am in no way knocking down her looks, she is a cutie. But it is amazing to see the "professional photo's" vs your cell phone photo's. It is amazing what the photo apps on cell phones can do in these girls hands. These girls have lots of free time on their hands, I've been with a girl who spent an hour on her phone transforming the photo into a modeling headshot. I've also been in a stripclub watching the fattest ugliest dancer with the heaviest caked on makeup ever, one where when she got onstage I wondered when it would collapse take, make a video on her phone that I saw later that night when she showed it to the girl next to me and I have to say: I would have fucked the girl in that video if she really existed.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2266097]But it is amazing to see the "professional photo's" vs your cell phone photo's. It is amazing what the photo apps on cell phones can do in these girls hands. These girls have lots of free time on their hands.[/QUOTE]It's not only apps, she probably took an hour to put her make up in all the other pics also.
Some of them wouldn't put a foot outside of their room if they didn't spend an hour putting all their cream and powder on their face and body.
By the way it's a nice couple of pics of her ass.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2266053]So my message to my fellow mongers is to stick with what works for you and don't talk too much with these girls about details if that makes sense. This meathod just works for me 80% +
One of the best BBFS CIP sessions I have had in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Oh, no doubt about it I miss out on the girls who change their mind at crunch time on those occasions when I must get a clear "Yes" to bareback beforehand or no deal. But for those of us for whom "Bareback is great, but sex with a condom will not happen", if that girl had stuck to her guns and still refused to go bareback, it would have been a total waste of the time I spent to get her in my room, the money I would feel it is fair to pay her for coming over and the blah mood and less than pleasant feeling I would have had in my gut though all of it wondering why I booked a girl who had specifically told me we were not going to have sex at all (which is where a comitment from her to provide a BBBJ+CIM, if agreed upon, comes in handy).
Your way, exactly as you described it in your detailed previous report, is perfect for guys for whom, "Bareback is great, but sex with a condom is still pretty good." If I were such a guy, which I have never been in my life, I can't see any reason to discuss anything beforehand other than possibly price with the best looking P4P girls on the planet. Hell, I would NEVER talk about condom or no condom beforehand. What on Earth for? (actually, see below at least one very good possible reason to do that. Lol) It would be "Go With The Flow And See What Happens" all the time and every time.
But since I am among the former group and not the latter group, it is just not worth the risk and anxiety to remain somewhat in combat and defense mode from the point of booking until the point of entering bareback or accepting that 20%+ of the time I will endure the most godawful buzz kill to bring everything to a screetching halt. LOL. That is simply not worth it to me when it really isn't all that difficult and far more comfortable to do it my way and get it settled ahead of time with another girl.
Btw, Bkkdog, how do you know the reason this particular girl decided to go bareback with you at crunch time wasn't precisely BECAUSE you had expressed your desire for it from the beginning and not despite it? Seems to me if you want more of these "best BBFS+CIP sessions in Thailand" with girls like that you should not change one step in how you got there, key among them perhaps being my way of asking for it beforehand, no? After all, that is the only new step you added to your normal procedure to get to the one of your "best" ever bareback sessions.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2266063]If I'm ever stuck using a condom, I always go for this 40 Baht brand. Closest thing to BB I have experienced while using a condom.[/QUOTE]Tried it tonight. My shaft felt like it was encased in rubber (which I think isn't the idea).
Maybe a lubricated one would have been better. And the girl put in on (maybe not quite right).
Anyways- I call it massive fail. As was my entire night.
Got lured into buying a bunch of drinks by an Isaan vixen in the go go right next to Rainbow. (stepped in accidentally) and was only guy in there (which is perfect).
She had an amazing body. Young. I was quite taken. Even tried giving her the BFE. DATY the works.
Several minutes into the fucking (as I'm encased in rubber) she asks me if I finish.
Ok honey. We're done thank you. You can leave now.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2266063]If I'm ever stuck using a condom, I always go for this 40 Baht brand. Closest thing to BB I have experienced while using a condom.[/QUOTE]Tried it tonight. My shaft felt like it was encased in rubber (which I think isn't the idea).
Maybe a lubricated one would have been better. And the girl put in on (maybe not quite right).
Anyways- I call it massive fail. As was my entire night.
Got lured into buying a bunch of drinks by an Isaan vixen in the go go right next to Rainbow. (stepped in accidentally) and was only guy in there (which is perfect).
She had an amazing body. Young. I was quite taken. Even tried giving her the BFE. DATY the works.
Several minutes into the fucking (as I'm encased in rubber) she asks me if I finish.
Ok honey. We're done thank you. You can leave now.
Bummer. My batting average with Nana bargirls was decent up till now (but usually always from Mandarin).
[QUOTE=Breadman;2266097]I am in no way knocking down her looks, she is a cutie. But it is amazing to see the "professional photo's" vs your cell phone photo's. It is amazing what the photo apps on cell phones can do in these girls hands. These girls have lots of free time on their hands, I've been with a girl who spent an hour on her phone transforming the photo into a modeling headshot. I've also been in a stripclub watching the fattest ugliest dancer with the heaviest caked on makeup ever, one where when she got onstage I wondered when it would collapse take, make a video on her phone that I saw later that night when she showed it to the girl next to me and I have to say: I would have fucked the girl in that video if she really existed.[/QUOTE]I actually PREFER the real life / phone photos!
[QUOTE=Catire;2266209]Tried it tonight. My shaft felt like it was encased in rubber (which I think isn't the idea).
Maybe a lubricated one would have been better. And the girl put in on (maybe not quite right).
Anyways- I call it massive fail. As was my entire night.
-snip-[/QUOTE]I have tried those condoms too, as well as some brand and style (can't remember it now) that was touted by many on these threads as being the thinnest and most sensitive of all time. They are not for sale in Thailand so I ordered them online. It might come as a surprise to some that, at the ripe old age of 65, I still occasionally test the latest, greatest development in modern condom technology just to see if any one of them really does live up to its miraculous claims. None have in the 46 years I have been fucking women. LOL. It is more or less like trying to pick up a dime on a marble floor wearing oversize and extra thick work gloves. I have not picked up a dime yet.
Anyway, since I have had a vasectomy and always have a recent normal/negative blood check document in my possession, IF I were one of those lucky "Bare back is great, but fucking with a condom is still pretty good" guys, I suppose I would now add to my booking/dating procedure the step Bkkdog recently added to his procedure that, imo, was key to his enjoying one of the best bareback sessions he has ever had in Thailand. Namely (and the portions in parenthesis is from me to clear up what I snipped and what the spell-check here kind of screwed up):
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2266048]Today I was surfing TF for a house call and found this real cutie. 23 years old. I wanted to test a theory that Tooms always practices to see if it worked for me. On TF, I offered my price to this little cute and expressly mentioned I wanted the experience to be the same as we were BF and GF but she insisted on a condom. I politely declined. After searching for another few hours, I decided to take a chance. I contacted her back and lowered my offer and agreed to the condom thinking she would decline. Surprisingly, she accepted and 30 minutes later she was in my room.
-snip-
After another 20 minutes of this (DATY) and 2 exploding orgasms by her, she begged me to fuck her. I started to reach for the condoms she made me buy but she pulled me back towards her and just guided me right in be. Be (bareback).
[/QUOTE]I realize Bkkdog seems to have come to a different conclusion. But I can't help but think his making it known to the girl at the start of their chat that he was interested in going bareback, that he was so into that kind of service that he was willing to walk away for hours and would only reconsider if he paid her less than he originally offered was a key factor in her deciding at crunch time to wave off covered sex and launch into one of the "best" bareback sessions he has ever had in Thailand. I mean, she knew from the beginning that going bareback was important to him, that he was comfortable about engaging in it with her and that there was presumably more money on the table IF she delivered it at crunch time. IMO, that is a very good mindset for her and any other P4P girl to be in for guys who want bareback. So after she met him and felt comfortable with him, enjoying his DATY, deciding to go bareback was a much easier decision for her to make precisely because he had made it known how important it was to him from the very beginning and that there was likely more money in it for her if she did.
Again, the procedure of asking for bareback early, well before booking her, walking away when it was refused and then coming back with a lower baht offer for my agreeing to wear a condom would be a fine addition to my procedure IF I was the kind of guy who would still be able to go ahead with some semblance of penile-vaginal intercourse if she had stood her ground and insisted on a condom right up to and all during the session. But since I am not that kind of guy as of this writing with any miracle modern technology condom I have ever tried, I think I'll need to stick with my usual procedure of hitting the girls up for it beforehand, thanking the girls who say "no" for their time and moving on to the next one who will say "yes" to me.
[QUOTE=Catire;2266209]Tried it tonight. My shaft felt like it was encased in rubber (which I think isn't the idea).
Maybe a lubricated one would have been better. And the girl put in on (maybe not quite right).
Anyways- I call it massive fail. As was my entire night.
Got lured into buying a bunch of drinks by an Isaan vixen in the go go right next to Rainbow. (stepped in accidentally) and was only guy in there (which is perfect).
She had an amazing body. Young. I was quite taken. Even tried giving her the BFE. DATY the works.
Several minutes into the fucking (as I'm encased in rubber) she asks me if I finish.
Ok honey. We're done thank you. You can leave now.
Bummer. My batting average with Nana bargirls was decent up till now (but usually always from Mandarin).[/QUOTE]When I saw the 03 posted I was surprised. 03 is pretty much a standard thickness condom (maybe a bit thinner). I guess I will order some 01 and 02 okamoto large and just give it a go and see. Thanks for the info.
Since I am one of those "lucky "bareback is great, but fucking with a condom is still pretty good" kind of guys, this is what I recommend: #1 the Sagami 0. 02 Large (polyurethane) & #2 the Lelo Hex (latex). And I never leave home without them.
Now I wish Sagami offered their 0.01 line in the Large size. that would be my preference, but since I only see their 0.02 line available in the Large size, that is what I buy. Note: I am quite average and yet the regular size Sagami is too tight for me.
Lelo, the fancy and elegant vibrator people, make a very unusual Latex condom. Due to its hexagonal contruction it's condom is very thin and yet very strong. This condom will not break while in use. But it still is a Latex condom which means that the pussy body heat transfer is not as good as it is with the polyurethane product. So if you must wear a raincoat because the girl insists, or a situation arises where you just want to be on the safe side; take your pick. These are both very good condoms - the Sagami 0.02 Large (black print) & the Lelo Hex.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2266261]Since I am one of those "lucky "bareback is great, but fucking with a condom is still pretty good" kind of guys, this is what I recommend and I never leave home without them: the Sagami 0. 02 Large (polyurethane) & the Lelo Hex (latex).
-snip-[/QUOTE]Curse you, Natty Bumpo! And you, too, Bkkdog!! And, while I'm at it, curse the rest of you lucky punters who are in that group! LOL.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2266261]Since I am one of those "lucky "bareback is great, but fucking with a condom is still pretty good" kind of guys, this is what I recommend: #1 the Sagami 0. 02 Large (polyurethane) & #2 the Lelo Hex (latex). And I never leave home without them.
Now I wish Sagami offered their 0.01 line in the Large size. that would be my preference, but since I only see their 0.02 line available in the Large size, that is what I buy. Note: I am quite average and yet the regular size Sagami is too tight for me.
Lelo, the fancy and elegant vibrator people, make a very unusual Latex condom. Due to its hexagonal contruction it's condom is very thin and yet very strong. This condom will not break while in use. But it still is a Latex condom which means that the pussy body heat transfer is not as good as it is with the polyurethane product. So if you must wear a raincoat because the girl insists, or a situation arises where you just want to be on the safe side; take your pick. These are both very good condoms - the Sagami 0.02 Large (black print) & the Lelo Hex.[/QUOTE]I already have about 6 well researched samples and have just added some Sagami 0. 02 Large size for my next trip in 2 weeks. Thanks for the advice NB.
While on a Japanese condom site I noticed that Okamoto, which is apparently Sagami's main competition in the premium condom market has a "001 0. 01 mm Zero One Large Size Condom". I grabbed some of them too. They aren't cheap though, only come in 3 packs and cost about US $12 (Yes US $4 per condom) compared to just less than US $2 for the Sagami's.
All up I have 8 samples (1 to 2 dozen of each) to try and am in for about $200 in condoms.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2266048]Today I was surfing TF for a house call and found this real cutie. 23 years old. I wanted to test a theory that Tooms always practices to see if it worked for me. On TF, I offered my price to this little cute and expressly mentioned I wanted the experience to be the same as we were BF and GF but she insisted on a condom. I politely declined. After searching for another few hours, I decided to take a chance. I contacted her back and lowered my offer and agreed to the condom thinking she would decline. Surprisingly, she accepted and 30 minutes later she was in my room.[/QUOTE]She's gorgeous. Hope to find her or someone like her when I am in Thailand next may. Love milky tits.