Bangkok Reports

Minimum wage varies throughout the US but anyone who shows up to work reliably and works even half hard can easily get a $10 an hour job with no education or skills beyond high school. That works out to 31 k US a year at 60 hours a week and 52 weeks a year for making no investment in your education or developing any skills. Excluding a few places in the world that is a damn fine job for not investing anything and entry level. Also at that level of earning there is a lot of government assistance available.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2266988]Sorry that is not logical. Very top gogo girl that is very popular with lots of regulars and multiple STs per night can make 150 K Baht per month. That still doesn't compare to the really rich people in Thailand.

However the average gogo girl maybe making between 30 K and 50 K, and some girls are so undesirable as to hardly get a BF and therefore make well under 30 K per month.

American strippers make a lot maybe because there is so little alternative to them. The money thrown at them is ridiculous right? When they don't even have to fuck. Here, many guys are boycotting gogo bar girls because they have viable cheaper alternatives, e. G. 1 K street walkers on Soi 4 for a quickie, or MPs like Tulip, SW, etc. Comparisons with the US don't make a lot of sense to me, especially as I don't live there and visit rarely. Levels of the law and morality are different. Supply of hookers is far different. I have never had a fuck in the USA, as far as I remember (or definitely not a memorable one), and may have wasted a bit it on black hot strippers in San Francisco.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2267163]Annual Household Income PER capita?

Since PER Capita means "per person", do the figures mean per household or per working person? Who knows?

Since I live in Mexico, I looked up the Mexican figures in the same report. The minimum daily wage in Mexico is about $4 USD / day. The report lists $2,700 USD per year which works out to be about $10 USD / day. Or about $200 pesos per day. Which is about what the average shop clerk, etc. Makes. So I must conclude that the report actually means Average Income Per Person.

So that would mean that the average "low end" wage in Thailand would be about $400 baht / day which isn't far off from Robert Long's post saying $300 baht / day.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would say they mean per person, not per household, too, based on the USA numbers. They cite USA per capita (per person) income in 2016 as around $29,900 USD, which is about right per person while Annual Household income was generally cited in other sources as more like $56,000 per household.

I really fail to see the relevance of how much is average earnings in other countries, and how that should affect the earnings of hookers in Thailand, which vary so incredibly. No connection in my mind.

Are Thai hookers going to be influenced by how much hookers make in other countries? Not at all. They charge what they think they can get. When times are tough, the price goes up. Ha ha. Does not even really follow supply and demand principals. If a girl does only 1 fuck per day, she wants a lot more than another girl doing 5 guys per day. Bargirls became more expensive than Oily girls.

We all know there are countries where hookers cost vastly more than Thailand for a several hour booking, and also know there is a cheaper alternative in Cambodia.

I recall being told 2 or 3 years ago, that in Cambodia, you move outside the city area, where girls have no English and get a fuck for $10 no problem. So more like Thailand of many years ago. In 1991 in Thailand, could get a Thai girl for that sort of money. 1981 a girl may have cost only 100 to 150 Baht or so for sex in a province outside the city area, speculating a bit but having heard stories from a buddy. I was in Thailand in about 1983 but with wife in tow, was a bit restricted, so did not really get a handle on the prices. However I am sure it was the ideal time to be mongering in Thailand. HIV was not known and the biggest STD scare at the time was Herpes maybe.

Mongering punters can choose which ever country and place gives them the best experience and value for money. Guys that monger in many countries are still coming back to Thailand. So something is still O.K. I have cut right back in Europe because it costs significantly more per hour.

Hi gents,

Thanks for the intels on THERMAE. Like others said, its literally a cattle call for freelancers. There are 50-100 girls lined up in a horseshoe pattern and the guys go in circles trying to find a date. Mostly Japanese and Korean. Not much place to sit and hang out. No dancing. Very transnational.

Here is my take:

- Between Nana and Asoke MRT on Sukumvit.

- I like this format, because I don't drink and I am usually in bed by 11 pm, so don't want to spend too much time at gogo bars. Just want to find a quick bang and go to sleep. I got in around 9 pm on Friday and was about 60 girls. Can go in and out quickly.

- Quality is across the board. There are stunners and very unattractive. The hot girls know they are hot and will not talk to you. I got a sense its hard to have a good conversation with these girls before agreeing on price and then leaving. So you guys who like to chat up a girl before proposing sex, might not be the place for you.

- Majority Koreans and Japanese who can be quite annoying. I have a darker complexion and most of the girls wouldn't talk to me.

- They claim standard price is 2500-3000 for ST. Not sure how true that is, but what I paid.

I did find a attractive girl. Beautiful face, nice body. Took her back to my place. But when clothes came off, very saggy boobs and 2 kids body. Wish I had spend more time finding a tighter pussy. But did get some DFK, BBBJ, Condom FS and we spent some time in my bathtub, which was nice.

[QUOTE=United1;2267389]I did find a attractive girl. Beautiful face, nice body. Took her back to my place. But when clothes came off, very saggy boobs and 2 kids body. Wish I had spend more time finding a tighter pussy. But did get some DFK, BBBJ, Condom FS and we spent some time in my bathtub, which was nice.[/QUOTE]To avoid this next time ask the right questions like if she has had a baby, are her tits perky or saggy, and of course clarify the services she provides.

2500 is the rate and has been the same for quite some time. Any higher quote means they need more money to go with you over someone they prefer (waiting for the 333 comments).

Thanks for an actual review.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2266926]I have heard from a few ladies that the employees at 7/11 are paid 300 a day. That comes to the average given if they work 7 days a week.

But I agree that average office worker must make more. They hang out in Starbucks or any of the multitudes of Coffee Cafes and Malls. This means they have money to spend. Of course they live in small rooms and usually double up to share expenses.

RL.[/QUOTE]300 B/ day x 25 days = 7. 5 K THB only (nobody works 30 days) - this sounds too low. But if it is that- that is what it is.

[URL]https://checkinprice.com/average-minimum-salary-in-bangkok-thailand/[/URL]
Average Salary in Bangkok, Thailand.

Average wages in Bangkok is pretty high compared to other areas of Thailand. Currently, the average wage in Bangkok is of 25,500 Thai Baht per month, or approximately 800 USD. (So 1000 B / day).

Bangkok has some of the highest average salaries among ASEAN members capitals. Singapore is the first on this list, followed by Bandar Seri Begawan, Kuala Lumpur and then Bangkok.

Nonetheless based on 350 B/day Low wages (even 1000 B/day Avg wages) - hooker rates should be much much lower than currently indicated 2-3 K / ST etc.


Wages are based on demand / supply. There is ample / surplus supply here- as easily evident. So likely the Punters are not negotiating well - Econ101.

Oh well,

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2267548]To avoid this next time ask the right questions like if she has had a baby, are her tits perky or saggy, and of course clarify the services she provides.

2500 is the rate and has been the same for quite some time. Any higher quote means they need more money to go with you over someone they prefer (waiting for the 333 comments).

Thanks for an actual review.[/QUOTE]Some quote 3 because they think they can get it (mine did and does). Normally I would have blown her off, as I always do girls who quote above prevailing rate. But she is WELL worth the extra 500. Spent all night with me last night for no extra money (though I gave her 4). In her fierce year end race for money, she's apparently off to Thermae tonight too. I told her just to come see me. Which apparently she really wants to do. But only short time tonite. anyways, 2500 IS the "going rate", but as has been mentioned there is a disparity in the looks and age(s) of the women at Thermae. I wouldn't be surprised if the younger and hotter girls ask and get 3 (if not more) .. let's say 4 minutes. 4 cm and 4 thousand baht?

[QUOTE=SBTiger;2267603]300 B/ day x 25 days = 7. 5 K THB only (nobody works 30 days) - this sounds too low. But if it is that- that is what it is.

[URL]https://checkinprice.com/average-minimum-salary-in-bangkok-thailand/[/URL]
Average Salary in Bangkok, Thailand.

Average wages in Bangkok is pretty high compared to other areas of Thailand. Currently, the average wage in Bangkok is of 25,500 Thai Baht per month, or approximately 800 USD. (So 1000 B / day).
[/QUOTE]Those figures are spot on. Minimum wage jobs pay THB 325 (USD $10) per day. Only takes 2 out of 5 people to be on a decent wage of say THB 2000 (USD $60) per day to bring the over all average up to THB 1000 (USD $30) per day.

I guess that is why they aim for THB 2500 to THB 3000ST, just a bit more than an average days pay of a skilled worker. Not that these girls are probably educated enough for a well paid job but puts some perspective into their pricing.

[QUOTE=BubbaBoy;2267710]Those figures are spot on. Minimum wage jobs pay THB 325 (USD $10) per day. Only takes 2 out of 5 people to be on a decent wage of say THB 2000 (USD $60) per day to bring the over all average up to THB 1000 (USD $30) per day.

I guess that is why they aim for THB 2500 to THB 3000ST, just a bit more than an average days pay of a skilled worker. Not that these girls are probably educated enough for a well paid job but puts some perspective into their pricing.[/QUOTE]Many office workers in Bangkok are making low end western-like salaries though right? Closer to 20,000 baht per (5-day) week is quite reasonable, which is only about USD $30 k / year, or about $15/ hour. So yeah in the ballpark of what an office girl would make if they get one or so person a day.

[QUOTE=United1;2267389]
I did find a attractive girl. Beautiful face, nice body. Took her back to my place. But when clothes came off, very saggy boobs and 2 kids body. Wish I had spend more time finding a tighter pussy. But did get some DFK, BBBJ, Condom FS and we spent some time in my bathtub, which was nice.[/QUOTE]Always a huge risk with over dressed freelancers. Hence my more normal behaviour is to go to bars where I can see the body well. Even the double layer bras of Coyotes can be hiding crappy tits. Too risky generally unless can get the girl to show her tits. Even if the body comes out not too bad, still have the risk of low skills, or girls looking for a quickie, or stiff legs syndrome (dick scared). Definitely better for the Asian customers in Thermae. At least with street walkers, the amount of money risked is less.

After having a very hot body GF for many years now, it is very hard to get excited by a sloppy body, for me. Dick may hardly stir. Every girl has a pussy yes, and may even be a pretty one, but it is not enough for me.

I know other guys ask girls if they have a baby, however I can't see myself doing that, since many girls with babies still have a good body. Most of my regular girls (the odd exception) have a baby. Some even have a pussy a bit on the tight side of ideal for me. Some really beautiful pussy. Girls with baby, I would say, on average are not likely to be dick scared, and typically are more enthusiastic fucks.

Started my night at the Argentine steakhouse with 3 hoegardens and a Cuban. My plan was to swing by patpong to check out my favorite from last trip Kings Castle 1 and move on to Nana later in the night.

Upon arrival at 6 pm I realized the google opening time of 5 pm is incorrect. I found a great massage place on the next street over to kill some time. After a hour massage to cure my aches from 25 HR flight I nearly fell asleep.

I head into Kings castle 1 I think. Did they remodel? Last time it was a square the ladies danced on. Now it was a full stage and the place seemed bigger. Anyway, my first impression was 95% were skinny 21 years old just like I remembered so surely it was the same place. About 40-50 girls with more arriving. I saw about 4 that were of my taste. Nice booty and small to medium boobs.

After checking them all out and 1 Heineken later I picked bee bee. 21 years old and just started 2 weeks ago. Nit noy English which sucked but with help from papasan I stuck with my favorite. I bought her one lady drink and inquired about ST. Papasan stated 4300 including BF. I balked to try to get it down as it seemed a bit high to me. Papasan asked again a few minutes later and I balked again. Papasan said she 2nd prize whatever that meant. By this time, two of my 4 had been BF by asians a half a lady drink into sitting so I pulled the trigger. Thinking back on it today I think 3rd time would of got it lower.

Back in the room we showered and began aerobics. I went in for some kissing but I could tell she didn't like so I continued down her body for some DATY. She welcomed this and warned her up well I thought. The BBBJ that followed was lousy and short. At this point, I realized the aerobics was going to be the same kind of effort. So I skipped all of the soft screwing and flipped her over for a good pounding. She was a very vocal young lady.

I enjoyed the experience with the stunner even though it was nothing to write home about. I would return to kings castle 1 but would try one of the others. I was too tired to continue onto Nana. I will be back in 2 days to explore nana.

I almost didn't return to the King Castle gogos. Natty, turned me into them last trip and like I said before I love that it's mostly young stunners. I have read on others sites that Kings Castles are known for amazing transexuals that are hard to tell. I really investigated last night with intentions of moving onto Nana if I seen one Adam's apple or sign of LB. Did they change busniess model or our these other sites correct?

Now onto Pattaya.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2267776] I have read on others sites that Kings Castles are known for amazing transexuals that are hard to tell. I really investigated last night with intentions of moving onto Nana if I seen one Adam's apple or sign of LB. Did they change busniess model or our these other sites correct?

Now onto Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Probably depends on exactly which bar. Some may be LB bars with no girls at all. The one I went to with Natty had no LBs. I always peek in the door before entering a bar, especially if Pat Pong or Nana Plaza. Usually it is fairly obvious that LBs are present (if more than the odd one), and I don't even try to see Adam's Apples (too difficult). If a bar has 90%+ girls and the odd LB, I am not so put off like some guys. I just avoid the LBs, as needed. Plenty of bars have LB mamasans or serving staff. No big deal. I am not going to play up with them.

Seeing a guy tongue kissing a LB (or another guy) is a bit hard for me to adapt to. Tend to avert the gaze as conditioned since youth. Fortunately don't see it that often.

It is hard to post pics of my current girls, so pics from yesteryear are easier.

Here is an all natural tall model type, who worked in Voodoo (Nana Plaza). She was so tall that many guys suspected she was a Ladyboy. Only A cups, quite skinny, but beautiful pussy, even if not that well padded. Sorry is a pic of a photo print.

In those days, you could pay the girl a tip in the bar, and she might let you undress her completely for a short time at least (great to check out the body was my spec), even though I think the nude dancing on the stage had already gone from Nana Plaza (nude dancing in Nana was a little earlier I believe).

Looks like I took her all night and probably more than once. Interesting she carries a Photchunanagrom (Dictionary) Thai to English and / or Visa Versa, although by that year, my Thai should have been quite reasonable. Perhaps she was learning English and took opportunity to get my assistance on certain phrases. Her name completely escapes me now but do remember she came from Voodoo. Probably something common like Nit.

Still find her look attractive so my taste has not changed that drastically, I just got more fussy over the years.

In the early 2000's I mainly used soapies (very restricted mongering due to GF), and later moved back to Cowboy as nude dancing had arrived there.

I almost forgot she had a quite white non tanned face, because skin colour is not a big deal for me mostly.

Kings Castle 1 and Kings Castle 2 (Patpong 1): 100% girls. Syzygies, we were at Kings Castle 2. I was with my KC 2 girl #1 at the time and you bumped into Barbara Bach, an old friend of yours. She seemed very happy to see you again. 555.

Kings Corner 1 (Patpong 1 - closest of the Kings bars to Surawong): 50/50 girls & ladyboys. Very weird set up. The girls and the LB's take turns dancing in segregated sets on the stage. My favorite 2017 Kings Castle 2 girl told me she first started working in Kings Corner 1 and then moved quickly to KC2. She said she didn't like working at Kings Corner 1. I can understand why.

Kings Corner 2 (on the side alley connecting Patpong 1 & 2): 100% ladyboys. Really obvious. Even a blindman would immediately know he wasn't in Kansas anymore.

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ThatGuy, I am glad to hear the KC 1 line up is still good. It was very good in October. On your specific girl: they all can't be memorable. It is your 1st night. I was in BKK for 12 nights before I had my 1st NEW memorable; my Atomic Blond and then the hits started rolling in one after another with my super hottie La Belle girl and then with a very cute little muffin from Twister.

BTW, 4300 all-inclusive does not sound too high for KC 1. Kings Castle 1 & 2 have multiple barfine levels. Assuming the barfine was 1400 baht for a top category girl, her price was 2900 baht which is at the top end of the current Go Go girl price range. I assume, however, that you only paid the barfine in advance.

Happy New Year!

[QUOTE=United1;2267389]Hi gents,

Thanks for the intels on THERMAE. Like others said, its literally a cattle call for freelancers. There are 50-100 girls lined up in a horseshoe pattern and the guys go in circles trying to find a date. Mostly Japanese and Korean. Not much place to sit and hang out. No dancing. Very transnational.

Here is my take:

- Between Nana and Asoke MRT on Sukumvit.

- I like this format, because I don't drink and I am usually in bed by 11 pm, so don't want to spend too much time at gogo bars. Just want to find a quick bang and go to sleep. I got in around 9 pm on Friday and was about 60 girls. Can go in and out quickly.

- Quality is across the board. There are stunners and very unattractive. The hot girls know they are hot and will not talk to you. I got a sense its hard to have a good conversation with these girls before agreeing on price and then leaving. So you guys who like to chat up a girl before proposing sex, might not be the place for you.

- Majority Koreans and Japanese who can be quite annoying. I have a darker complexion and most of the girls wouldn't talk to me.

- They claim standard price is 2500-3000 for ST. Not sure how true that is, but what I paid.

I did find a attractive girl. Beautiful face, nice body. Took her back to my place. But when clothes came off, very saggy boobs and 2 kids body. Wish I had spend more time finding a tighter pussy. But did get some DFK, BBBJ, Condom FS and we spent some time in my bathtub, which was nice.[/QUOTE]What you got at the end sounds like about the best anyone could expect for the standard 2500 baht in Thermae. I mean considering the pluses of her face and body and the level of service you got. Not the part about the very saggy boobs and a pussy not as tight as you wanted, of course. There are many times when a punter pays 2500-3000 for a girl in Thermae matching your general description and then discovers back in the room that DFK and BBBJ are no way on the agenda.

And in real world practice with fully clothed P4P girls, how would you find out the truth about their boobs and pussy tightness? Would you get a truthful answer if you asked, "Are your boobs very saggy or perky? Is your pussy tight or loose?" Hell, I rarely get a truthful answer from a clothed P4P girl about the amount of long scraggly hair on her pussy unless she assures me she shaves all if it smooth. LOL. If she says, "Oh, I don't shave there but I only have a little bit of hair anyway," you better sharpen up your machete for a real battle just to find an opening later.

And babies or not don't predict if the girl's pussy is tight or perfectly snug for me. These days I only ask whether a girl has a baby or not just as a matter of conversation and, primarily, to get her to ask me if I have kids too. When I say no, they invariablly ask why not and that is my opening to tell them the reason is I had a vasectomy many years ago and can't make a baby. When asked why I got a vasectomy the answer is because I cannot have sex with a condom. See where this is going?

Sure, some guys' very successful aproach is to just blurt out "I want sex no condom." But if I am chatting with a girl a while, say, over a Lady Drink or 2 in a go-go bar, there is no reason not to fit that into the chat so she is fully prepared for what I would expect from her and would confirm IF I agreed to barfine her soon.

However, that is often not the situation in Thermae. You can chat over a drink or two. But most don't. So I agree with Banana Boi that it is a good idea to discuss the services a girl will provide beforehand if they are important to you, which is generally my style as well.

However, the lineup format makes it difficult to get a positive answer from a girl in Thermae about a True GFE service like BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM. They are not going to agree to that if there is any chance the girl next to her overhears even your whispered question. Maybe a smartphone text and translate works.

I have found sucess in getting Thermae girls to agree to those things after we have stepped outside and are presumably on the way to my apartment. If she says no at that point she can turn around and go back down the stairs to be surveyed by morre Koreans and Japanese who mostly only pass through and seem more to be on a sight seeing tour than a hooker hunt in there to me.