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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2266988]Sorry that is not logical. Very top gogo girl that is very popular with lots of regulars and multiple STs per night can make 150 K Baht per month. That still doesn't compare to the really rich people in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I didn't mention the very rich people. I just compared them to highly paid professionals such as doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc. A stripper in the USA can make just as much as those types and sometimes more. Gogo girls are in a similar position in Bangkok where they can make as much as those same professionals in Thailand. Seems fair to me. To compare the money a gogo girl makes to what the lowest paid person in Thailand makes doesn't equate. They become hookers for a reason. For the big money they will make. If they made minimum wage, they wouldn't be doing it.
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[QUOTE=WindAngel;2266933]Without telling us the actual number, I will be surprised that is the general case.
This means they are doing better and richer than the US workers because everything is cheaper here. It also implies Korean, HK, Japan, or Taiwan are all doing better than US. Some of these East Asia countries hire a lot of workers from Southeast Asia countries for about $800 a month working 6 days a week. A friend of mine has 5 maids. I know I will take about 40% salary cut if I transfer to Asia.[/QUOTE]I agree that the local Thais who have good jobs are doing better than US workers in the exact same position given their salary compared to cost of living and quality of life.
However, there are still US companies who pay expats a bonus to work in Thailand. Our company pays an extra 15%, free housing, free car and driver and maid (s), free school for your kids, and tax free salary to work in Thailand. Getting those jobs is not easy though because the list of guys who want those jobs is long.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2266988]American strippers make a lot maybe because there is so little alternative to them. The money thrown at them is ridiculous right? When they don't even have to fuck. Here, many guys are boycotting gogo bar girls because they have viable cheaper alternatives, e. G. 1 K street walkers on Soi 4 for a quickie, or MPs like Tulip, SW, etc. Comparisons with the US don't make a lot of sense to me, especially as I don't live there and visit rarely. Levels of the law and morality are different. Supply of hookers is far different. I have never had a fuck in the USA, as far as I remember (or definitely not a memorable one), and may have wasted a bit it on black hot strippers in San Francisco.[/QUOTE]Every city in the states is different in terms of what the girls do and how much they earn. All depends on the availability of jobs and the overall economy. Detroit for example, anything goes in many clubs and some very hot strippers can be had in the $100 to $150 range. My buddies won't even consider paying for a flight since talent can be had at their doorstep.
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BKK General question.
All,
Going to be nearby on a business trip and have the opportunity to fly into BKK for a short weekend. I have longed to go to Thailand forever. I have been to China many times and love Asian women. This is definitely a bucket list item for me. To those of you that have been to BKK, would you go to visit for just short of 2 days? The money for the flight is not an issue. I would arrive on a Friday at 07:20 and leave on Saturday at 20:30. Consider airport transfers in this. Is it worth it?
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2268824]I agree that the local Thais who have good jobs are doing better than US workers in the exact same position given their salary compared to cost of living and quality of life.
However, there are still US companies who pay expats a bonus to work in Thailand. Our company pays an extra 15%, free housing, free car and driver and maid (s), free school for your kids, and tax free salary to work in Thailand. Getting those jobs is not easy though because the list of guys who want those jobs is long.[/QUOTE]I think it is safe to say in general US owned multinational corporations pay more to regular local Thai employees than the local Thai corporations.
If a job can not be done by a Thai employee, and must be done by an US employee, the pay will be comparable or more than in the US. A corporation usually will not send someone to foreign country to do a job that local can do if it costs that much more and that is not what we are discussing.
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Absolutely Worth It
[QUOTE=SexySlideGuy;2268836]All,
Going to be nearby on a business trip and have the opportunity to fly into BKK for a short weekend. I have longed to go to Thailand forever. I have been to China many times and love Asian women. This is definitely a bucket list item for me. To those of you that have been to BKK, would you go to visit for just short of 2 days? The money for the flight is not an issue. I would arrive on a Friday at 07:20 and leave on Saturday at 20:30. Consider airport transfers in this. Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]Bangkok is an EXPERIENCE not to be missed. In China it is all hush hush and hidden behind closed doors (and gone downhill of late). In Bangkok it is all on wild display with literally hundreds of girls for the choosing and a garish carnival atmosphere. Nothing quite like it. Stay downtown and do Cowboy or Nana or both.
If you want to do Cowboy I was super happy with the Continent hotel. It's literally two blocks from Soi Cowboy but you'the never know it. Boutique hotel, class act. Girl friendly.
But whatever you do don't skip BKK. Have two or three girls Friday and another couple Saturday (depending on your budget) Worth it for sure. Even if you only do one or two girls the experience is a bucket list item.
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SEA tour day 4
I slept the day away and some of the night. I think I needed it considering the 25 hour flight and getting 4 hours sleep the last two nights. I woke up at midnight and rushed to the shower and headed down to Nana.
First stop was billboard. Wow! This place was full of ladies that were of my taste. Skinny, big booties and natural breasts. Well except the lady I got sat in front of she had visible fake breasts with scars underneath to match. I was sat at the table on the right and the place was crowded. My table had some Japanese guy throwing money to the ladies every few minutes. The ladies I had my eye on were dancing on left stage. Couldn't get a seat in that area and was hard to check them out from my seat. With time limited I decided to try my luck somewhere else and plan to return to billboards earlier on day 5.
I wondered over to RB4. LB's galore. I had my eye on what seemed like a Japanese mixed girl. Waitress says she only like Japanese men. So I left a half a drink and moved over to twister.
Upon entering twister I had a lady smiling at me as I walked past. Getting no attention from my first two stops and feeling the buzzer closing in I decided to offer a drink. This was a mistake on my part. I will place part of the blame on being half asleep and running out of time. Immediately she starts talking about hotel. I push back and say I don't know. In retrospect I should of had her go away. I wasn't feeling it and another girl had gotten on stage that fit the part. I pulled the trigger. 1000 baht to bar and 3 k to girl. We get to the hotel and shower. She starts giving me a HJ. She spoke little English but we communicated through app. She said no BJ because something with her mouth. No kissing or DATY. Again, this was my own fault for not discussing this prior to BF. I kindly tell her no HJ and grab a condom. Aerobics followed and she kept doing this halfway pulling away thing to where I couldn't go all the way in. We went from Doggy to putting her on her stomach to missionary and same thing. I almost gave up and told her to go but I got her into doggy a second time and had better control. She relinquished a bit and I was able to complete the impossible task at hand. Upon finishing she wants to add me on line and says you come to twister tomorrow. She may be upset when I take her nice booty co-worker but what would one expect? Sophia
Day 5 will be in BKK. I'm going to start out at some soapy yet to be decided on and make my way back to billboards early. I'd like to get that sexy billboard lady they advertise on FB all the time. Report soon come. It's taking lot of time to complete reports sorry if I'm missing replies. Not enough time in the day.
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Do not hesitate.
[QUOTE=SexySlideGuy;2268836]All,
Going to be nearby on a business trip and have the opportunity to fly into BKK for a short weekend. I have longed to go to Thailand forever. I have been to China many times and love Asian women. This is definitely a bucket list item for me. Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]Just 1 night? Don't skimp. Book a room at the Landmark and pay extra to check in early. Start the day off right with any lady from Bangkok Gold Escorts. You'll get natural tits, DKF, a great BBBJ and CIM. Then later walk around the corner to Nana and head up to Billboard. Arrive at 8:30 - 9 pm. Buy the mamasan ("Mama the") a drink and feast your eyes on all the slender hotties. Maybe bar fine 2 and have a double back in your room. For breakfast book a lady from smooci, then finish off with a nuru massage with Uru (great body!) at Mitu in the afternoon. Live large. Invest in experiences.
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;2268725]SZ,
You may be correct. I usually hang out in Soi Cowboy for that. That's probably why we cannot remember![/QUOTE]I am not ashamed to say that I am a very poor guide for the gogo scene. I might take one look a year here or there with no real preference. I too liked Crazy House in the early days but the amount of smoke in there ultimately drove me away. Angelwitch did a fairly entertaining little show with some brief full nudity. I commented on the poor lighting and Funman replied "because they are all old". Comparatively speaking he is certainly right. It did look like they were eager to engage rather than just doing the bored shuffle.
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[QUOTE=SexySlideGuy;2268836] I would arrive on a Friday at 07:20 and leave on Saturday at 20:30. Consider airport transfers in this. Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]If this is just a side trip and you only have hand luggage then I would take the train to Masakan station and transfer to the metro. Only 1 stop to Asok / Sukhumvit. Just make sure you have some small change for the metro. By the time you're of the pland and trough customs you would probably hit moring peak hour going into BKK, so the train is probably the best option.
I've done heaps of 2 day trips to BKK, the last one about 4 weeks ago, for visa runs from the surrounding countries.
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Bangkok 12.27-28
As promised, I'm back with my post. It was rather a short stay, but I managed to experience as mush as I can.
I'll try to give you the details my days in bkk, hope it won't be too much.
BKK 27.
My plane landed at late night of 27, it's around 02:00, 28 when I arrived at the hotel. Luckily, Davin Hotel is 2 minutes from the Nana, so I decided to give a try, to see if there are any girls left for me.
I gave a quick tour of the whole 3 levels and noticed many of them were almost empty (few girls) or refused new entry (like rainbow 4). So I finally sat down in the first club near the entrance which was lollipop (close at 3).
There were about 7-8 girls dancing and and I surprisingly found 2 of them were charming enough to give a try. Regarding the late arrival, Thats a good start for me!
I made a quick decision to take one cute young nice see-cup (I normally don't take silicon) girl. I remembered to pay 900 bar fine and 3000 for ST (could be some differences, I was really tired after the long flight).
P.S. Most of the tail girls are relatively short, from 1. 50-160, a few for 1. 65 or above. Usually A cup or silicon cup. And I don't understand why 80% of them wear tooth braces.
We went back to the hotel, front desk asked for girl's ID card. Later I leant that they will call to make sure everything's fine when girl's leaving then give it back, which is nice to us.
We had a good time together. Talking, Joking, then she gave me a great blowjob and sex though she claimed only worked for 1 month LOL.
I believed she's trying to stay longer, she asked several when I'll get up in the morning and kept showing her FB posts to me. But I was too tired to continue our conversation. She left with 500 tip.
BKK 28.
28 was my only full day in the city, so I made a full plan: 13:00, escort from Absolute-Angel-Bangkok agency, 17:00 Maria spa, 21:00 nana Again.
I booked one vip escort Tina which cost me 8,000 for 2 h. She was beautiful and great attitude but with limited skills (she told me she worked in restaurant), so it was rather an average experience and not worth the money. But this agency has many good reviews online, so probably I just made the wrong pick.
Maria spa. I arrived around 17:30, there were about 15-20 girls and same number of customers. Price range from 5000-13500 (M to PR). As I was told, in Maria I can find the top beauty in bkk and I did. There were 2-3 model type that I would like to take at first glance without even thinking about the money. I picked one slim tall PR girl who claimed to work in real estate and only came as part time job. She's apparently well educated and had the best English skill I met during the trip, so I took her story. It's a good time, though the part-time girl could not provide the top service. But taking the price into account, I shall not return soon.
So finally I returned to Nana, one local friend took me to several of his fav bar: Rainbow 2(40-50 girls at least) and 4(same amount), twister(2 stage around 50), billboard(1 stage and 1 bathtub, 40-50) etc. this day was friday, tons of girls and of course tons of customers.
I must say Rb 4 has the best beauty as many mentioned, and I also found at least 2-3 gems in every other bars I visited. It was tough decision to make and I finally took one petite from Br 2, one girl looked friendly and honest.
p.s. I also took a short tour before taking any girl out to the famous Tamee. 100-150 girls stands in circle in the room, and even more men walk like taking a sight scene with beer or something in hand. The room was crowded as hell. I was told there are mostly part-time worker, with the most diversity. It was lot fun for me, and there were good girls. I highly recommend you to at least have a look there.
In the room, she seemed to have great interests in my body and kept kissing me everywhere. Acting or not, she made me satisfied. However, when We just started for 3 minutes, her period came without any expectation (we noticed that while changing position). She was frightened and so was I. She said she had pills regularly and last period was just 2 weeks ago. Anyway, we stoped. She returned money to me, I let her keep it but she really insisted so and told me she could call her friend to replace her. At last, I gave her 1000 taxi fee and she left me her line number. All right, what an unexpected night. Since I had 2 times in the daytime, it didn't me long to fall asleep.
The next day, 29, I rent a car to Pattaya and stayed there for the rest 3 nights. I'll post the story in the Pattaya of course. Anything in my post that may interest you, please let me know.
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SEA tour day 5 part 2
Part 1 was in the massage thread but as I said I went back for the lady billboards always advertises in the FB pics. The Japanese eyed one.
I roll into nana place about 740. Billboards isn't going yet. I hung out on the patio down the way and contemplated looking in twister for the lady I should of got last night but I stuck it out bc I didn't want to miss out on the FB pic girl. Well actually they have 2 that has drove me bonkers for the last 3 months but the Japanese eyed looking one was my #1.
Billboards opened up about 815 and the lady was nowhere to be seen. Really only about 15 girls dancing to start with. 11 on the hot tub side and 4 dancing on other stage. I had one beer and mamasan came around. I tell waitress I want to buy her a drink. Then mamasan brings a sexy bodied lady over and sits her down. Looking closer her teeth are jacked. Oh no! I must get out of this situation. At this point I'd say 40 ladies were in the house but not the 2 I was after. I ended up buying waitress one and a 2nd for mamasan. Mamasan come and sits with me and asks if I want to take lady home. I said no and showed her pic on my phone of the 2 ladies I was interested in. She immediately takes off and says hold on. She went looking for the non Japanese eyed one and came up short. I told her I really wanted the Japanese eyed lady anyways. Again, she takes off. She was shooting over everywhere searching. She comes back and says lady will be right here. I had already looked at every lady in sight. She wasn't there. So I had my doubts. Out of nowhere here she comes.
I barfined her and really considering my experience with stunners I wasn't expecting much but was actually quite surprised. She wanted to do nana short time room but I insisted on going back to my room. It was only a few blocks down the road. We jumped in a taxi and made it painless. I don't speak thai but I've tried to learn for the past year and could tell taxi driver and her was talking shhh in some way. They were laughing away and I saw this as a bad sign.
Once we were in the room and showered she allowed some DATY to warm her up. Was a little hairy but I soldiered through it. She actually gave a decent BBBJ. Shocker! We then started a aerobics course. Overall mediocre performance on her part but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. I know 10's don't exist around here but that girl is a 9. 9 on looks alone in my opinion. All natural from what I could tell. Not good at telling nose jobs so that could be one exception.
Overall, I'd certainly repeat. I mean wow! Sexy as hell! My only regret was not leaving the lights on and having those sexy eyes stare up at me during BBBJ. Maybe having her sexy ass voice talking during aerobics would of been a great idea. Pure sexy!
Off to Jakarta tomorrow for 6 days
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Hello Thailand!
After a two year hiatus I arrived BKK tonight about midnight. Nice to be back in the real "land of the free". I didn't have real high hope since I arrived the scene about 2 AM. But there was one smokin' hot girl I'd like to know if any seniors can provide info. She's at the bar with the sign "100% Girls Only" or something like that hanging over the door upstairs at Nana Plaza. I'm constantly bobbing in and out of these places and don't really pay much attention to the names of the bars. Might have been Billboard. For my taste the girl is a 9 out of 10 and I'm a pretty fussy MF. Her number is 152. I stared at her the entire set and although she smiled she would not come over when the drink lady asked her. Obviously I'm lacking MP game. Or youth. Or ethnicity. It certainly isn't money because I just wanted to buy her a drink and meet her tonight. OK LOL admittedly I probably would have found the money if she was friendly and interested. I asked mama if she goes with American man mama said yes she goes with all man. Anyone know this girl? I came home empty tonight but I'll be well rested tomorrow. I'm going to try her again. Just FYI I'm the guy that will take a 9 body lame performer over a 7 PSE performer. That's what works for me!
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Soseji-sai
It was light in there the last several nights, but tonight a decent chunk of the girls returned though it was a veritable Japanese sausage fest in there. (soseji -sai!
Though most girls there pay little to no attention to gai-jin, one for whatever reason gave me a very nice smile and then continued to kind of "reel me in", as I played a little coy but returned her smiles.
Finally, I pull her off to the table for a little talking. She works at a call center, and her English was limited. The offer was 2. 5 K baht for non rushed short time. She was cute, I got nice vibes from her and decided to roll the dice.
Despite the language barrier, I managed to communicate that I don't perform well encased in rubber, and BBFS was immediately agreed to once I immediately agreed not to cum inside.
(seems to me the CIP fetishists should at least cover the cost of the morning after pill, no?? Or provide one to the girl?)
Very lean lady, rock hard nipples, gave her DATY and a nice orgasm, then I enjoyed her for quite some time without any questions about when I'm coming, or "come with me", etc.
Just great sex for as long as I wanted while she was busy also doing something I asked her to do (and she did it so well!
Not quite the wild experience as with the last one, but nonetheless extremely enjoyable.
She told me I had "jai dee" - (this means she found me kind) I was happy and she was happy because I treated her well and I gave her a small tip (3 K total). In sum, everyone was happy and that's what it should be all about.
Thermae remains worth checking out. Though it can be intimidating for gaijin. For residents or longer term visitors, it would probably be useful to go there and just stick one's head in for a week. Because SOME of these girls are "professional freelancers" - whereas others are actual part timers. (of course they will all tell you they are part timers LOL).