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[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2533786]Yes, I do appreciate the advice given here. But a little caught off guard to how much bad rep Bello gets on this board, which I guess for the most part is warranted. I was hoping to get more people to enjoy and explore Bello and see the beauty of it, it's called 'Bello' for a reason right haha. The stigma about Bello and it's violence and turf wars is the same thing Medellin had back in the Pablo Escobar days, even though outside Colombia people still think Medellin in general is a very dangerous and violent city and that you will be robbed / drugged / kidnapped right when you step off the airport.[/QUOTE]Well during my 5 years visiting mde I'm talking based on personal experiences. Not perception.
I know 3 gringos who live here got drugged.
I've had dates cancelled on me from girls in bello saying the streets were violent and locked off by cops.
Numerous girls who live in Bello have told me it's just too dangerous and they would all prefer to live somewhere else.
While you may be enjoying the change of scenery from SF and having the time of your life.
My only personal suggestion would be to be careful.
Even if I can speak perfect Spanish just like them but I'll never be "one of them". And this is always a big thing to remember.
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[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2533779]Ummmm. A rich gringo wouldn't be staying in Bello and I ain't rich by any means. I don't flaunt money out in the open and the girls I know very well, I also know their families such as their brothers, cousins, and ex boyfriends as well haha. Surprised I haven't been drugged or robbed by any of them yet, maybe they waiting on my next trip and take me out clean. Man too many haters on this board. Oh well, this is my last post on this subject. Cheers everyone! Stay safe and have fun![/QUOTE]No hating at all. In fact I applaud you for getting away from the Gringo hoard and doing something different. I also applaud you for not flaunting money, which is never a good idea in most mongering locales.
But even if you don't flaunt it, they view you as rich. If you're paying multiple girls anymore than 100 k a piece, you, by their standards, must be rich. The typical Colombian makes about $270 USD a month. And in a poorer barrio, most don't make that.
My comment was to point out that these girls from the Strata 1 and 2 barrios all have plenty of delinquent male friends with lots of time on their hands.
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Ah. Now I remember about that SJobs guy who was going to go to Medellin right when Colombia opened up to international travel back in October and talked about smuggling himself into the country via non traditional means while it was closed off. What happened to him? Is he MIA or something? Just wondering, so I can go MIA too and join him haha. Living in Medellin or anywhere in Colombia or just out of your home country carries significant risks. Lucky for me, I have family / housing in Panama (born there, raised in the States), so if things don't go as planned, I can settle in Panama for a while and put MDE living on the side. It's just that Panama is too damn hot and humid, most everything is expensive since it uses the almighty American dollar, and the hot girls are almost all Colombians anyways and charge 3-4 times more than being in MDE for lesser time and lower standard of service. I call that the triple threat in the worse way possible haha. But it's very close to MDE so I can hop on plane in no time and be in paradise.
And yes, I know by Colombian standards I'm very well off and to them I'll always be a 'rich foreigner', but I def don't flash it and put that out there for everyone to see. Actually by staying in Bello, it would make me poor gringo haha. They would ask why Bello and I can say I have no money for Poblado or Laureles so the only place I can afford is Bello. I even joke I'm out there selling candy and rolling a fruit cart as my side hustle.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2533801]Social acceptance is a big deal in these communities. If they've absorbed you as one of their own, fair enough, but that comes at a baseline level of risk which they all live with. As others have said its your decision and you will be the one to pay the price should thing go poorly, so we are all just commentators at the end of the day, not haters, just presenting an opposite perspective in various ways.
As to rich, man get real. You just told us you had an apartment in san francisco, then you told us about the strata 1 chica whose house you went to with her sisters (maybe and often teenagers) openly breastfeeding etc. Can you not see the contrast? You are rich by their standards, and no matter what you say they know that you are decently well off and to them "rich". .
Anyway god luck. As to whether you are SJobs, I am on the fence. Hope you stay and become a valuable contributor so we know how your plans are evolving. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]
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Old SJobs. What a megalomaniac (just like the real Steve Jobs was).
If he really did exist and was as he described, he's probably dead or kidnapped by the FARC.
If he really does not exist as he described (which many of us suspect), he's sitting in his basement and making up other stories for him to enjoy with whatever new group he's found to bother.
Good riddance either way (not trying to be cold, but that guy was a piece of work).
[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2533813]Ah. Now I remember about that SJobs guy who was going to go to Medellin right when Colombia opened up to international travel back in October and talked about smuggling himself into the country via non traditional means while it was closed off. What happened to him? Is he MIA or something? Just wondering, so I can go MIA too and join him haha. Living in Medellin or anywhere in Colombia or just out of your home country carries significant risks. Lucky for me, I have family / housing in Panama (born there, raised in the States), so if things don't go as planned, I can settle in Panama for a while and put MDE living on the side. It's just that Panama is too damn hot and humid, most everything is expensive since it uses the almighty American dollar, and the hot girls are almost all Colombians anyways and charge 3-4 times more than being in MDE for lesser time and lower standard of service. I call that the triple threat in the worse way possible haha. But it's very close to MDE so I can hop on plane in no time and be in paradise.
And yes, I know by Colombian standards I'm very well off and to them I'll always be a 'rich foreigner', but I def don't flash it and put that out there for everyone to see. Actually by staying in Bello, it would make me poor gringo haha. They would ask why Bello and I can say I have no money for Poblado or Laureles so the only place I can afford is Bello. I even joke I'm out there selling candy and rolling a fruit cart as my side hustle.[/QUOTE]
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Ok, I'm def not a SJobs type of guy. I've met some members of this board and most recently Osteoknot and before him Jjbee62, so I'm not here to waste people's time and talk mess. I'm sure they can attest to my love and passion for Medellin and all the very good, some bad, and rarely ugly that comes with it.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2533842]Old SJobs. What a megalomaniac (just like the real Steve Jobs was).
If he really did exist and was as he described, he's probably dead or kidnapped by the FARC.
If he really does not exist as he described (which many of us suspect), he's sitting in his basement and making up other stories for him to enjoy with whatever new group he's found to bother.
Good riddance either way (not trying to be cold, but that guy was a piece of work).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2533813]Ah. Now I remember about that SJobs guy who was going to go to Medellin right when Colombia opened up to international travel back in October and talked about smuggling himself into the country via non traditional means while it was closed off. What happened to him? Is he MIA or something? Just wondering, so I can go MIA too and join him haha. Living in Medellin or anywhere in Colombia or just out of your home country carries significant risks. Lucky for me, I have family / housing in Panama (born there, raised in the States), so if things don't go as planned, I can settle in Panama for a while and put MDE living on the side. It's just that Panama is too damn hot and humid, most everything is expensive since it uses the almighty American dollar, and the hot girls are almost all Colombians anyways and charge 3-4 times more than being in MDE for lesser time and lower standard of service. I call that the triple threat in the worse way possible haha. But it's very close to MDE so I can hop on plane in no time and be in paradise.
And yes, I know by Colombian standards I'm very well off and to them I'll always be a 'rich foreigner', but I def don't flash it and put that out there for everyone to see. Actually by staying in Bello, it would make me poor gringo haha. They would ask why Bello and I can say I have no money for Poblado or Laureles so the only place I can afford is Bello. I even joke I'm out there selling candy and rolling a fruit cart as my side hustle.[/QUOTE]I see the method to your madness. You make some great points.
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Just to be clear. I am not trying to insult you by comparing you to him. Steve Jobs, real or fake, was overconfident. Reading his name just brought back memories. Nothing to do with you at all.
[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2533849]Ok, I'm def not a SJobs type of guy. I've met some members of this board and most recently Osteoknot and before him Jjbee62, so I'm not here to waste people's time and talk mess. I'm sure they can attest to my love and passion for Medellin and all the very good, some bad, and rarely ugly that comes with it.[/QUOTE]
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So I should not move to Bello?
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I was def not insulted by any means. I always enjoy reading your posts and points of view regarding Medellin. I rarely read or post on this board much, but since being back recently from a 3 month stay in MDE I had time to reflect on life choices haha. I thought I would do this move 10 years down the road, but why wait til then shit. Who knows what would happen in 10 days or weeks, much less 10 years. One thing for sure I'll need after doing some research and the advice given here is to get a good and experienced Colombian attorney well versed in real estate transactions. There's a public site called Espacio Urbano that lists apts / houses for sale and rent that locals use to compare prices within the same barrio since there's no such thing as an MLS in Medellin. I skimmed through it and lots of apts in the 200-250 million pesos range. And I also read some stories regarding shady ass Colombian real estate agents / agencies taking advantage of ill prepared gringos, so yeah I'm def going in armed and dangerous in figurative and legal terms.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2533856]Just to be clear. I am not trying to insult you by comparing you to him. Steve Jobs, real or fake, was overconfident. Reading his name just brought back memories. Nothing to do with you at all.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2533869]There's a public site called Espacio Urbano that lists apts / houses for sale and rent that locals use to compare prices within the same barrio since there's no such thing as an MLS in Medellin. I skimmed through it and lots of apts in the 200-250 million pesos range.[/QUOTE]Medellin Guru has an article the shows property prices by square meter of different areas. I think it is based on their own survey. You may want to check it out. I also read there are many new residential towers built in that area. I guess many are estrato 4. I see from the Facebook group that there are a few gringos live in Bello, but not many.
I am actually interested in some restaurants like Arepas y Arepas and street food but have not made the trip north yet.
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[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2533849]Ok, I'm def not a SJobs type of guy. I've met some members of this board and most recently Osteoknot and before him Jjbee62, so I'm not here to waste people's time and talk mess. I'm sure they can attest to my love and passion for Medellin and all the very good, some bad, and rarely ugly that comes with it.[/QUOTE]I'll vouch for you. You seemed comfortable in the environment when I met you. I can probably hook you up with someone who can hook you up with a trustworthy lawyer and real estate guy as well. When you get to that point.
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[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2533554]For the love of mercy gawd help all of us that call Medellin our home.
There are so many venues and options available for chicas in Medellin that maybe in 50,000 years of evolution the men of the future here in Medoland will have evolved into being born with 5 dicks as you need them and more so if you live here.
No where in my life would I have ever thought that I would be turning down young fresh cuties that are being offered to me via friends or friends of friends. Just today talking to my good Colombian buddy as he is in a motel with a cutie and she (a paisa) has her best friend wanting to meet me and I turn it down because I just dropped off my all nighter at her apartment and need to rest.
Oh for the love of god..[/QUOTE]How do you usually know girls, girls for GFE?
On the street or online?
You have fantastic experiences I hope to go to Colombia soon.
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Places to stay in Bello
I too am interested in buying something but with the pandemic and work, I have not been able to return since February 2020. My plan is to work remotely from Medellin for a few months a year. I am waiting for my turn to get the vaccine and right after fly down for a month. I will stay at an Arbnb in Laureles but plan to visit and stay in other areas including Bello. I know plenty of girls that live there but I don't want to go with any of them. Can anyone recommend places in Bello? Girl friendly of course but would like to see the apts that are not as well. I don't plan to work and play in the same place in the future. Thanks.
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I am a 45 year old guy on my 4th trip to Medellin. I have pondered about making this my first trip to Bogota, finally decided to go the familiar stomping grounds of Medellin. I do not speak Spanish.
Travel.
Entry was interesting. The PCR test was looked over at multiple points in my journey. Did not fill out the migration form and was asked to fill it out at check in. The flight to Medellin was about three fourth's full. Wait at the immigration line was close to an hour.
Hotel.
Took the taxi and paid 80 mil for trip to Laureles. Saint* Peter in Laureles has gone down hill. They are charging 45 a night not doing a good job of upkeeping the apartments. Check was not smooth with some 'not needed' hassle. There was a spa (casa) nearby within 2 blocks called Aisha and is this little gem I enjoyed in multiple trips to Medellin. They have 5-9 girls are are reasonably priced although more than typical centro casa. It was closed, I am not sure if this is permanent. Very disappointed since I have a history with that spa. On one of my previous trips I had a girl from this spa visit my hotel. She also became my GFE provider. I also took her on couple of day trips around the city. She is now in south of the country farming cows!
Need to check out eros and see if there are other spas nearby in Laureles.
Casas and Centro.
I made a casa run yesterday. Saw line up at New life and did not partake but paid the viewing fee. Massages Aiffie had 5 girls and I picked a flaca. Service was disappointing but I did pump and dump. I made multiple walk around for escorts professionals (chicas biliss) based on the map updated by world traveler. I was not able to find it. Then went to sexy amigas and picked Salome. A chubby girl, she is always ready with an enticing smile and top notch sucking ability. I must have had 6-8 sessions with her in the last 3 years. Her service is exemplary for casa girls. She needs to teach her skills all the casa girls in Medellin. The one casa next to sexy amigas was also closed.
There was an excellent restaurant next to new life that had surprisingly great food but it was either permanently closed or not open on weekends.
I walked to Park Botero, saw a few SW. I have asked a girl her price and she said it was 30 K. Did not go with her due being unfamiliar with short time motels around the park. Some police presence. There are certainly hungry dudes following you with their eyes but I do have an advantage of blending in due to my skin color.
Bar Macaraibo was closed. Barra Ejecutiva was open and a beer costs 15 mil pesos and there were only 2 chicks looking too bored. Waste of time. I walked to Nutibara and had lunch there. Food was just okay.
Conejitas was cracking, a good number of girls but a ton of Colombian dudes in early twenties. One or two girls look good for a session. Had a few beers and sat down for an hour. The girl I was eyeing was too busy with other dudes. It was getting dark and I took a taxi back to Laureles.
Fayebook.
The usual, chicks flake a lot. Pricing is up in 6's and 7's, The ones I paid 150 mil are now asking 200. I scheduled 5 girls yesterday to show up starting at 9 AM and spread out the day. The first one showed up and said she lost her ID. Saint P will not let her in. Another girl from Robledo did not bring her ID. For both I put them in a taxi and gave them 50 mil pesos for showing up.
The three that showed up (200 mil each) - a 6 from Bello, a little chubby with cute face. Stayed an hour. A 7 flaca showed up in the evening and performed well. She stayed for a hour and half.
Another stopped by around 10 PM. Been with her before, she has grown more desperate for money. More preoccupied with other things in her life and was just an okay session.
Messaged a few skokka and mileroticos ads, One gave me an address that was next to hotel La Dorado. It looked like a converted hotel with SW on multiple floors. Did a session with a Venezuelan girl. Saw 5 chicas, mostly 5's and 6's.
One senior BM set me up with a flaca Venezualana she is average looking but her performance is top notch. She charges 250 mil pesos but will stay for couple of hours. Thank you PN.
Met up with another BM staying in Poblado and went to Luna. He showed me his FB list, they are mostly 8 and 9. Do not know what he is paying for them.
Luna.
Went to Luna around 10 pm on Friday. About 8 girls in Luna, mostly implants. No one was dancing. Sat for a few minutes and split.
If anyone on ground wants meet up, PM me. I am available this week.
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[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2533869]I was def not insulted by any means. I always enjoy reading your posts and points of view regarding Medellin. I rarely read or post on this board much, but since being back recently from a 3 month stay in MDE I had time to reflect on life choices haha. I thought I would do this move 10 years down the road, but why wait til then shit. Who knows what would happen in 10 days or weeks, much less 10 years. One thing for sure I'll need after doing some research and the advice given here is to get a good and experienced Colombian attorney well versed in real estate transactions. There's a public site called Espacio Urbano that lists apts / houses for sale and rent that locals use to compare prices within the same barrio since there's no such thing as an MLS in Medellin. I skimmed through it and lots of apts in the 200-250 million pesos range. And I also read some stories regarding shady ass Colombian real estate agents / agencies taking advantage of ill prepared gringos, so yeah I'm def going in armed and dangerous in figurative and legal terms.[/QUOTE]The best website in Medellin for finding properties is Fincaraiz, it has a wider data base then the Site you mentioned and you can basically search by barrio, by strata, price, size, similar as to though you were at [URL]booking.com[/URL] looking for a property and it will tell you what the property taxes are as well, the admon fees, the age of the building and contact information. And it's interactive with a map utilizing GPS as well. Your best priced properties will be the older ones, Colombians like new places and they are all more expensive and also be cautious about heat and noise issues along with high admon fees.