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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]One thing that I did notice was that the number of Indians trawling BR in packs had increased exponentially. Blame cheap budget air flights from the sub-continent but the threat is minimal at the moment as many of the better looking girls still turn their noses up at khaaks, partially due to colour [/QUOTE]
So what's this "threat" that's minimal at the moment, exactly?
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]...the number of Indians trawling BR in packs had increased exponentially. Blame cheap budget air flights from the sub-continent but the threat is minimal at the moment as many of the better looking girls still turn their noses up at khaaks, partially due to colour (many Thais been racists) but also because they are perceived as cheap charlies, often refusing to pay more than 300 baht and demanding special services.[/QUOTE]
I thank, welcome, and respect our Subcontinental brothers for their stand on pricing, if in fact the stereotyping is true. I've sat and watched girl after girl go upstairs with these gentlemen, so I wouldn't be too quick to believe that the ladies refuse them as they like to claim. Such talk is familiar - 'I like England man because he have good heart, no like Yerman man, blah blah'. They always want to you to believe someone's a cheap Charley for paying the correct price. The real gem is the girl who provides good service to each and every man, equally, without denigrating them to the next customer.
I say thank you to each and every gentleman, regardless of skin colour or national origin, who holds the line on price (and demands decent service)!
When is Songkran in Pattaya? During that time is it possible to catch the bus or take a taxi to Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Popper1]
To me, it pragmatic and moral issue not to break the 500 baht nightly hotel barrier.
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A moral issue? That's going a bit far.
Anyhow, I am a bit disappointed by the self-proclaimed king of cheap charlies: 500 bahts is a bit steep for Pattaya :)
An aircon-room at Prima Mansion is only 300 bahts (but often fully-booked), Prima Place has great 400 bahts a/c-rooms and 94 Mansion (on an even-numbered subsoi off Soi Khopai, not far from Thepprasit Road) has very decent fan-rooms for 250 bahts and aircon-rooms for 350 bahts.
I haven't slept in Pattaya hotels for a while now as I almost always stay at friends' or girlfriends' places but instead of paying for ST rooms, I prefer to "open" a cheap LT room which can be used up to X times within 24 hours.
[QUOTE=The Scout]When is Songkran in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]
Should start on April 13th and last +/- one week.
[QUOTE=The Scout]During that time is it possible to catch the bus or take a taxi to Bangkok?[/QUOTE]
Possible but in Bangkok it is not much safer than in Pattaya, just shorter (3 days "only").
[QUOTE=The Scout]When is Songkran in Pattaya? During that time is it possible to catch the bus or take a taxi to Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Very nice.
Thanks for all.
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]A moral issue? That's going a bit far.
Anyhow, I am a bit disappointed by the self-proclaimed king of cheap charlies: 500 bahts is a bit steep for Pattaya :)
An aircon-room at Prima Mansion is only 300 bahts (but often fully-booked), Prima Place has great 400 bahts a/c-rooms and 94 Mansion (on an even-numbered subsoi off Soi Khopai, not far from Thepprasit Road) has very decent fan-rooms for 250 bahts and aircon-rooms for 350 bahts.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I need learn more from those who are obviously wiser than myself.
Quick trip report from yesterday.
Now bit tired. Been banging every day, sometimes 2 or even three times/day for last two weeks. Pretty much going on dry. Needed a liftmeup. Got some Cialis. Just went to some pharm yesterday evening on 2nd Road about midnight and asked cost. Cost only 400 baht for four tablets for the indian generic. Not bad. On way home found older gal who wanted to go w/ me. She towards the opening of WS and worked in one of the nicer massage parlors. Really super hot body considering her age.
Found out she 40 years old. Her ass was near perfect. Shit. If US gals looked like she, most of my friends would have absolutely stay married. That's what I love about here. One day get gal who is 20 year old, next day 30 year old, and then 40 years old. Gal w/ no makeup and then gal w/ too much makeup. Then get fat gal, and then a thin gal. Then a pro, and then a non-pro. Everything goes.
Wanted her since I knew I could test the Vit see out. Just looking at her knew she could take a pounding. Anyway, took 1/2 a tablet, and found out that the Vit see was very solid. Three rounds where stiffy was incredibly darn strong. Pounded her good, and she just wanted more. She took the 1000 baht and was very happy w/ that. Tip. Yea. For a tip she got my cell phone, which she already contacted me three times wanting to get together more.
She left about 9: AM and by 11:00 stiffy was up and about again. Oh well.
Damn I hate Pattaya.
Obsessions: Always enjoyed my stays there. Especially so after the renovation and, what have to be, the best wash rooms in town. I have always found the bar selection girls and lady boys, yes I sometimes take one of each to spice up my life, very good. Very modest price. Great shows & lovely costumes. I know where I will be on my next trip back.
Also, have you seen the rooms? Check them out next time.
I really have no time for these Pattaya Bashers. Where else in the world can you have fun like this for a few cents. But, alas I am afraid it will change.
Recently in Bangkok I was regularly quoted 4, 000 Baht (130 dollars) doe a short night. It seems the Japanese and other Asians now rule the roost.
Enjoy it while you can.
I found this Go Go girl just two or three soi(s) before the Walking street. I forget the name of the bar but just near the second road. After entering the bar I take my drink and sat around the dancing stage. A girl grabbed me and continuously pushing me to take her on their room at up stair. But she was not on my taste. This girl was sitting far but realized I’v made my choice for her. She was showing her aggression like spreading her legs, Pushing up her breast, naughty looks etc. Finally I called her and opted to use my room paying barfine 600bht instead of paying 300bht for the room at up stair. She agreed 1500bht for LT. It was 2.00p.m. but surprisingly she agreed for the next morning.
It was seemed a nice bat but it was not. In the room she started her necking not to get her wash showing she is feeling cold. Finally my determination made her mood to wash but this made me so off and my little jhonny got sleepy while all the time it was walking in front of me. It was agreed issue that I’l pay her next morning; but after the wash she politely requested to pay half for her mental satisfaction and I paid with full of sour in my mouth.
After the session she started saying her baby is sick she wants to go for one hour to see the baby. I agreed and let her go. After 1.5 hr I realized she is not returning back and it make a relief for me.
It was so hard to carry her any more when it was seen a deep and broad baby stitch (very badly done) on her belly.
Day 1. After spending three weeks in the Philippines my friends and I gathered our stuff and flew to Bangkok from Clark on a Thursday evening for approximately $200 per person. Caught a metered taxi to Soi 6, found a cheap hotel and got some rest. We were all damn tired.
Day 2. Had breakfast in the morning, checked out of the rooms, then headed over to Soi 7 ½ to Edens to see what time they opened. 5PM…damn! I wanted to hang around Bangkok and wait for it to open, but was vetoed by friends who wanted to hurry down to Pattaya.
So we hired two taxis and took the two hour drive to Pattaya. We did separate searches for hotels when we got there and I found a place called Marine Yensabai Mansion. It has huge suites for 1326 baht and a disco on the 2nd or 3rd floor. We check in and get cleaned up. I’m noticing that the hotel mostly caters to Arabs. They seemed friendly enough though.
Me and a friend hit the streets early. I hadn’t been to Pattaya in several years and as I walked around the whole place seemed much more commercial than it was before. Most of the smaller open air bars were gone, replaced by giant open air bars with lots of colorful flashing lights, and the girls seemed older and more hardened. I didn’t like the new Pattaya.
We drank and ate at one of the many seafood restaurants along Walking Street, and met up with other friends. Drank into the evening and watched the crowd of walking tourists get larger and larger. Sat in one of the large open air bars and tried to talk with some of the girls. I wasn’t feeling it though. After years of going to the Philippines, and having just left there, I missed it already.
Later in the evening me and a friend saw two attractive girls walking along Walking Street. One was Skinny (just my type), and the other was thick (just my friends type). We stopped and chat them up then invited them to eat with us. More seafood. The food is still the highlight of any trip to Thailand. I love the food.
After dinner we invite them back to the hotel for more drinking and partying. They accept so we buy some beer and head to the hotel. Once in the room, my friends girl immediately strips down to her bra and panties. She’s got a damn nice body! We drink for a few hours, talking and getting to know our new girls. There English is not bad; pretty good in fact.
I kick my friend out and he goes to his room with his girl. My girl and I take showers, climb in the bed and do what most people who go to Pattaya do…screwed like rabbits! The only bad thing about the whole experience, the thing that really threw me for a loop was how fast the girl got dressed and left after I got my nut. As soon as I busted a nut, she was in and out of the bathroom, fully dressed and standing beside the bed in about seven minutes. I said, “What, are you leaving?”
So I gave her 1000 baht and watched her walk out the door. So much for GFE! The music in the hotel disco kept me from sleeping well that night. It literally vibrated through the whole room. I knew I would be checking out in the morning.
Day 3. Checked out and moved to the Welcome Center Plaza Hotel on the advice of a friend. He had checked out earlier and relocated there. It was a much nicer place. Rooms were much cleaner and cost around 1550 baht. After check-in we headed to the mall for lunch. The mall used to be a great place to pick up freelancers ten years ago, but it seemed as deserted of girls as ever. Had lunch and returned to the hotel for a nap.
Barhopped the rest of the evening with friends and took many numbers of girls but just didn’t see anything that I had to have so I went back to the room drunk and slept fitfully through the rest of the night.
Day 4. During lunch with friends I told them I would be looking for a BJ bar or something like it to get some quick relief before I started partying that day. One of them told me to just order the massage from the hotel massage service and the girl would offer extra’s. So I did.
She came to my room with her oils and towels and got busy as I lay on my back. She flips me to do the front and noticing my huge woody asks if I want special service. A bj would be nice I say. I stand and have her sit on the edge of the bed. She does a pretty good bbbcim. I give her 1000 baht for the whole service.
More barhopping that evening. I still hadn’t run across any girls that I wanted to bar fine. It seems like I came here to drink and eat. WTF?
Day 5. One of the girls I exchanged number with texts me and lets me know it’s her day off. I have her come meet me and a friend, who has his girl from the previous two nights with him, at Marine seafood restaurant. She arrives and we eat and drink the evening away then head back to the hotel for more of the same. The two girls seem to get along great having never met each other. Before long we’re each in our own rooms screwing our girls like rabbits again. This girl actually stays after the deed and gives me a second pop in the morning. I give her 1000 baht and tell her I’ll text her later.
Day 6. Some of the same activities as previous days but we end up at Lucifer Disco on Walking Street later that night. It’s loaded with freelancers. I end up with a tall girl with a nice body who has her own scooter. We scoot back to my hotel, take showers and have sex several times that night into next morning. That Cialis is a mofo! I gave her 1000 baht exchange emails and say goodbye. It’s time to head back to Bangkok to catch our flight back to the Philippines.
Yella Man
Just my 2 cents on what popper1 and kimbu have talked about regarding freelancers vs. bar or gogo girls. During my times in Pattaya I cannot say that I have found either bar or gogo girls to provide any better service then the freelancer.
That having been said I think it's important to take some care when choosing a freelancer. Taking one from a place like Insomnia I think is more risky because the music is too loud for one to be able to chat them up properly. I think it's far better to find one along Beach Road for instance. Walking down there and using the ocean as a backdrop casually saying hi especially to ones who show some interest in you. Once you see one you are interested in you should take some time and sit down and chat with her a bit. After some nice casual conversation you can wind the conversation down to sex, you can ask if she likes farlong men or likes "boom-boom". Ask her is she goes with you if she thinks she wil be able to enjoy boom-boom. Indicate to her that her enjoyment is important you. I think that through all this conversation you will be able to sense whether she will give you a good experience or not. If not, make some excuse to go and move on. Using this method, I have never had a bad experience and while nothing is full proof I think this method improves your odds dramatically.
I picked up this Udon Thani girl from Beach Road last night, and as I've been doing all week, I didn't negotiate price in advance.
After one boom-boom she got dressed in a hurry, and got all pissy when I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol
First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.
[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]I picked up this Udon Thani girl from Beach Road last night, and as I've been doing all week, I didn't negotiate price in advance.
After one boom-boom she got dressed in a hurry, and got all pissy when I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol
First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.[/QUOTE]
Those "Udon Thani girls” are also from Isaan; best to negotiate price and (especially) activities in advance to avoid a situation like this.
[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]I picked up this Udon Thani girl from Beach Road last night, and as I've been doing all week, I didn't negotiate price in advance.
After one boom-boom she got dressed in a hurry, and got all pissy when I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol
First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.[/QUOTE]Guess you felt great after saving 200 B.
[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]I picked up this Udon Thani girl from Beach Road last night, and as I've been doing all week, I didn't negotiate price in advance.
After one boom-boom she got dressed in a hurry, and got all pissy when I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol
First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.[/QUOTE]
The onus is on you to set the price beforehand, I hate to say. The only other option, should you refuse the full payment she requests, as you now know, is death. I hope it was worth it to you. If you get out of Thailand immediately, you may be able to save yourself. Some of these girls are well connected though, and it wouldn't surprise me if she eventually tracks you down in your home country and makes you pay... with your life.