Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I read this and had to respond with an anecdote, because I found this funny and oh-so-true.

In 2001, I took my ex-TGF to Canada for a visit with my family. While having lunch at Tablerock Restaurant overlooking Niagara Falls, the waitress handed my 23 y.o. GF the children's menu, a set of crayons and a placemat for colouring. My GF and I got no end of fun out of this for years after and the coloured placemat had a place of honour on our fridge.[/QUOTE]
lucky you that you did not leave the place hands in hands...she'd call the police as a pervert was in the neighbourhood!

[QUOTE=Betong]When I was in my 20s they almost all said they loved young guys. Now that I'm over twice that age, they assure me that they really like guys in their 40s and 50s. And I have no doubt that in ten years they're going to reveal that they actually prefer guys in their 60s.

Sorry, call me a cynic . . . .[/QUOTE] no no..call you (from their perspection): walking ATM, lol

Opebo,

I've been going to Bangkok since 2000, and I've found the quality to be about the same now as it's been for the past eight years. There are, however, fluctuations. One trip, the quality wil be good, the next trip it will be mediocre and the trip after that, the quality will be excellent. For me, the quality on the last trip was as high as it's ever been, and as Mick can testify, I'm quite picky. It does, however, take patience and research to find good quality girls. Sometimes when I go into BG 7, Thermae, Gulliver's or CM2, I'll see no girls that meet my standards. I just walk in, walk around, then move on to the next place. If I keep on looking, I almost always find someone good. The same thing applies to soapies. Recently Mick and I went to Utopia (usually a good place), but we didn't find anyone we liked. We left and went to Tarawadee and both of us ended up finding someone acceptable. Right now, Tulip has some of the best-looking girls with the best service that they have ever had.

My view is that it makes no sense to bemoan the state of the girls in Bangkok. There are some great ones out there. It just takes some planning and patience to find them.


[QUOTE=Opebo]Obviously quality is drastically, shockingly down compared to say 6-10 years ago, even with the slight uptick recently due to the economic downturn. Quite simply, the prettier girls are not available to farangs in a better economic environment, because if at all possible they prefer to either 1) remain respectable, or 2) only service Thai men and avoid the despised farang.

This is basically the same pattern that has repeated itself in Asian country after Asian country - many decades ago Japan, in the last couple of decades South Korea, and now the last domino to fall, Thailand. The world darkens, our options draw in, and we are lost gentlemen.

But as to how to deal with it for now, Knobrm, just get used to being serviced by older, unattractive women. That's what I've done.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Where have you been? We were worried and missed your expert observations of Thai, or lack of, culture.:)[/QUOTE]

Maybe OTH should change his handle to The Scarlet Pimpernel ;).

One of the things that was guaranteed to wind up my wife, when we first moved to UK, was the way that people assumed that she was Chinese. She used to come home fuming as kids had been taunting her with cries of 'chinky, chinky'. I used to think it as funny as hell, as my wife is a Filipina and looks as much Chinese as I do an Eskimo :D.

[QUOTE=Canyon]
I've been going to Bangkok since 2000, and I've found the quality to be about the same now as it's been for the past eight years. [/QUOTE]
I think its true that he can't get the same quality as 10 years ago for the same price he paid 10 years ago ;) LOL

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]One of the things that was guaranteed to wind up my wife, when we first moved to UK, was the way that people assumed that she was Chinese. She used to come home fuming as kids had been taunting her with cries of 'chinky, chinky'. I used to think it as funny as hell, as my wife is a Filipina and looks as much Chinese as I do an Eskimo :D.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, most people are still ignorant about Asia. In France, I am not even sure if people can cite 5 asian countries if asked spontaneously! Given our History, Vietnam should come first, Thailand and Filippines are easy to guess and China + Japan are obvious.

Last year I was in Paris and I realised that mentalities did not change: if you are Asian, you are Chinese. Not that they would be able to differentiate, they just don't care.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Unfortunately, most people are still ignorant about Asia. In France, I am not even sure if people can cite 5 asian countries if asked spontaneously! Given our History, Vietnam should come first, Thailand and Filippines are easy to guess and China + Japan are obvious.

Last year I was in Paris and I realised that mentalities did not change: if you are Asian, you are Chinese. Not that they would be able to differentiate, they just don't care.[/QUOTE]
Yep. Those Frenchmen aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. ;)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Unfortunately, most people are still ignorant about Asia. In France, I am not even sure if people can cite 5 asian countries if asked spontaneously! Given our History, Vietnam should come first, Thailand and Filippines are easy to guess and China + Japan are obvious.

Last year I was in Paris and I realised that mentalities did not change: if you are Asian, you are Chinese. Not that they would be able to differentiate, they just don't care.[/QUOTE]That's true, but not all people in France are so ignorant about Asia. I know quite a few though who think that you are speaking about Taiwanese people when talking about "Thais"!.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Yep. Those Frenchmen aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. ;)[/QUOTE]

You won't get any disagreements from me there.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Yep. Those Frenchmen aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. ;)[/QUOTE]You find ignorance in evey country among the not travelled ones.

Ask randomly people in New York how far it is to LA and you'll be surprised.

In Germany I heard several times that it was Japan where everything is manufactured cheaply. If it had been a single incident, it could have been an Alzheimer on his long term memory, but that is obvoiusly not the case.

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Maybe OTH should change his handle to The Scarlet Pimpernel ;).

One of the things that was guaranteed to wind up my wife, when we first moved to UK, was the way that people assumed that she was Chinese. She used to come home fuming as kids had been taunting her with cries of 'chinky, chinky'. I used to think it as funny as hell, as my wife is a Filipina and looks as much Chinese as I do an Eskimo :D.[/QUOTE]

My Pinay wife is mistaken for Japanese. With a Spanish surname, Latinos try to speak Spanish to her. When we got married 20+ years ago, people thought she was my daughter now they think she is my grand daughter. At 40+ she can still pass for 25.

Slim

Almost depressed by Obepo's comment - I do not feel like wanting to accept to be served by less attractive women; it is not fair...so encouraged by Canyons observations. However, unfortunately my own observations are not as encouraging as his. I have actually been doing BKK since late 2000 too, and as said, quality on average is just down in past couple of years. But hope that my recent visits in past couple of years have been just those less lucky times, and things will turn better going forward.

[QUOTE=Canyon]Opebo,

I've been going to Bangkok since 2000, and I've found the quality to be about the same now as it's been for the past eight years. There are, however, fluctuations. One trip, the quality wil be good, the next trip it will be mediocre and the trip after that, the quality will be excellent. For me, the quality on the last trip was as high as it's ever been, and as Mick can testify, I'm quite picky. It does, however, take patience and research to find good quality girls. Sometimes when I go into BG 7, Thermae, Gulliver's or CM2, I'll see no girls that meet my standards. I just walk in, walk around, then move on to the next place. If I keep on looking, I almost always find someone good. The same thing applies to soapies. Recently Mick and I went to Utopia (usually a good place), but we didn't find anyone we liked. We left and went to Tarawadee and both of us ended up finding someone acceptable. Right now, Tulip has some of the best-looking girls with the best service that they have ever had.

My view is that it makes no sense to bemoan the state of the girls in Bangkok. There are some great ones out there. It just takes some planning and patience to find them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knobrm]. . . quality on average is just down in past couple of years.[/QUOTE]It goes up, it goes down, it averages out. Given the current economic prospects, it may soon start to rise. I still remember some of the very nice girls who got onto the game after the crash of '97. Once I even found myself with the the former guest relations manager of a fairly well known Bangkok hotel . . . 26 years old, a Thammasat biz grad, and utterly lovely . . . working in bar in Suk 22. Could be more of these coming soon.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]You find ignorance in evey country among the not travelled ones.

Ask randomly people in New York how far it is to LA and you'll be surprised.

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And we also had a VP candidate who thought Africa was a country.........

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]And we also had a VP candidate who thought Africa was a country.........[/QUOTE]
True T1234, but in her defense, she DID know where Russia is. After all, she told us "I can see Russia from my house". ;)