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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Am now back in Manila, same hotel as before just for 2 days and then back home :( [/QUOTE]

Nice to meet up with you...

It's always fun when three ISG members from different countries are sitting in Dusit Club room with multiple girls each :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Nice to meet up with you...

It's always fun when three ISG members from different countries are sitting in Dusit Club room with multiple girls each :D[/QUOTE]
:D

And all exhausted from nocturnal and day time activities......good to meet up next perhaps we should swap girls :D

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Since I will be in town for the next few days I just wanted some advice on EDSA Entertainment Complex and LA Cafe.

Has anyone been to either of these places since the storm? Were they flooded and damaged or are things back to normal? Are most of the girls coming into work at EDSA?

I imagine if it is not back to normal, once it is, that LA Cafe will be very busy with ladies who are in need of pesos.[/QUOTE]I was in both places last night (and a few others..) they are all operating normally and were a bit quite. So don't worry your pesos will still get you what you want :)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Nice to meet up with you...

It's always fun when three ISG members from different countries are sitting in Dusit Club room with multiple girls each :D[/QUOTE]I can only imagine the scene.

It would have been great to have been observing the mongers at multiple play.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]:D

And all exhausted from nocturnal and day time activities......good to meet up next perhaps we should swap girls :D[/QUOTE]Hell two of mine would pay me to not screw them again :D They said I sex too much :D

If you gave me yours they might hate you for the rest of your life :D I'll post when I get settled.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I can only imagine the scene.

It would have been great to have been observing the mongers at multiple play.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the club room attendant upgraded two of us to suites that I know about I'm not sure about the third. For me she told me she knew I needed the extra bathroom and living room and winked at me (since I had a girl already waiting in the club room for my arrival) :D Now that is service, right after a typhoon you can still get a girl to meet you at the hotel club room.

And when I would walk in with various girls she just smiles and giggles at me. This is the lady that I chat with on line and am trying to hook up with her outside of work. So far only one lunch with her but am going for the all night affair.... Nothing ventured nothing gained :D

That's the nice thing about the Club Room at Dusit, you could walk an army of girls through there and they staff has seen it all and they could care less and if anything they treat you better then they do normal guests it seems.

Here's the 18 year old who was waiting for me at Dusit and kept me safe after the storms....

This was one of the girls before the three girls that GE and Wicked Roger saw me with in the club room at Dusit...

Called my friend and she never lets me down. Also hooked up with a friend who was visiting and wanted some fun. Quick call to my contact and she came up with some delightful 18 tear old students, all spinners, slim and pretty with varying degrees of experience or inexperience. Mine was less experienced but it did not dampen the enjoyment. My mate saw one I shagged last week and he was very happy, as she was enthusiastic and great BBBJ, adores DATY (really opens up once you start) so all in all we both had fun.

Thank you so much WR, hope you enjoy my company and also a very pretty and sexy girl friend of mine. Hope to see you again.

Keep in touch.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Hell two of mine would pay me to not screw them again :D They said I sex too much :D

If you gave me yours they might hate you for the rest of your life :D I'll post when I get settled...[/QUOTE]
LOL

They would thank me for the break I gave them Tansak :D :D But would be a fun idea...maybe we should get adjoining suites/rooms make things easier.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Am now back in Manila, same hotel as before just for 2 days and then back home :(

Called my friend and she never lets me down. Also hooked up with a friend who was visiting and wanted some fun. Quick call to my contact and she came up with some delightful 18 tear old students, all spinners, slim and pretty with varying degrees of experience or inexperience. Mine was less experienced but it did not dampen the enjoyment. My mate saw one I shagged last week and he was very happy, as she was enthusiastic and great BBBJ, adores DATY (really opens up once you start) so all in all we both had fun.[/quote]Thank you so much my dear friend hope you enjoyed my girl friends.

[QUOTE=Azeb 411]I will be visiting Boracay Next month and i was wondering if it is better to take a girl from Manila with me and pay hehr for the week or risk being all along there for the 10 days I will be there? What is the scene like in Boracay.

We have a 20 hour cruise from Manilla and I would like to "rock the boat a bit" hehehe.[/QUOTE]If the girl is of your taste and can bend over anytime you want without hassle, then be it. It might cost you cheaper to take her by the week (if she is not a freebie), than getting FL in Bora. Rates varied from P1k to P3k for an ST with FLs on the island of paradise. But yet if the girl you bring along willing for a threesum, then the variety gals in Bora can share the rocking boat with ya.

BTW, the rates mentioned is still cheap for 2 cute girls lapping your cum. Anyway, your miles may varied..hehehhh.

Was in LA recently and wondering about the different approaches to negotiating and paying the girls that have been discussed here. Some guys have just offered the girls, some have asked how much they want others don't discuss it at all, just give them some cash as they leave. Given that I have a few consecutive nights, I thought, in the interest of science of course, I would run a study to figure out the best approach. This is going to be long, so I will break it up.

The mission is to get a really cute girl out of LA back to your room long time with the most GF experience for the least cost. Some of the variables might be time of day, which area you pick them from, younger vs older, new vs. Old hand, how much time you spend with them and what you spend on them before.

Generally I arrived at 10p-12am

First night I walked around all four main areas: . My experience in the past has always been that the girls are different in different areas of the Café:

1. Downstairs front (including pool tables) – this is the crush when you first walk in, and extends back to the left to the two pool tables. Here I tend to find less sophisticated girls, some younger, some older, but ones who don't have money to go upstairs and who don't want to play games. They just want you to take them home. Any girls playing pool here are showing off to get a guy. Girls here are very aggressive. They will approach you, grab onto you and can be hard to pry loose.

2. Downstairs back – mostly younger girls, many are primarily interested in playing pool. If they show off at pool, it is because they want to play pool. The girls along the front wall are hunting in packs. They are more passive in that they wait for you to approach them. Interestingly some of the packs seem to want to go only in pairs. They are young but business like. Maybe they are afraid to be alone with you or shy, and like to have a chaperone. My sense is that they will fuck you in a businesslike manner and then go. The men back there are mostly Asian (Korean and Japanese) and perhaps that is what these girls are really looking for. Nevertheless, there are some really beautiful girls here. They don't always speak English here.

3. Upstairs to the left (by band) – mostly more sophisticated (speak English, dress well, have been around). They have to pay a cover to come upstairs, so they have money in the game and probably the experience to know what to do.

4. Upstairs right (by the big bar) – as you enter there are lots of young girls hanging around. They might catch your eye, but quickly look away. My sense is they are approachable but passive. At the tables there are mostly Asian men with attractive girls. Back by the pool tables are more of the same. The girls seem less interested and are probably focused on Asian guys.

The girls do move around a bit during the night, but from night to night gravitate to stay in the same areas. Occasionally you will seem them come from other areas to the downstairs front and stay there for a bit trying to more aggressively hook a new entrant. But then after a bit of time, they go back to their preferred room.

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So back to our survey.

Girl 1) On the first night I hung around a long time. I chatted with the girls by the downstairs bar. I watch the girls playing pool in the back (Hana is my favorite, but I think she does not speak English). I spent some time upstairs watching the band. In the end, it was very late and I was having trouble making up my mind.

Finally I was walking downstairs and a girl by the men's room grabbed on to me. She was tiny but had thick beautiful hair, pretty face and was fun. After talking for about three minutes, it was about 3:30am, she said "are you going to take me home? " It was late, and even though we had spoke only for a minute I said yes, took her hand and headed for the door. No business talk.

We cuddled in the cab. I think she said she was 22. She was sweet. In the room, she quickly undressed and showered, then I did. She had a small, tight body, little breasts, shaved pussy. We kissed and played. She did not get very wet, so rather than fight it I used a sachet of lube I keep for such occasions. We played and fucked a long time, but I am not sure she came. In the morning (I hate it if girls want to leave early or get up and dress without a goodbye fuck) I woke early and she was great, but again don't think she came. We showered and dressed. I put P1, 500 + P100 in her pocket. She never checked, but kissed me, asked for my number and left. It was mostly a GFE, she was totally available, cuddly and in no hurry to leave.

Post script. I did see her on succeeding nights and she wanted to go with me, but I owed it to you guys to move on to the next girl.

Girl 2) Night two was pretty much the same. First I chatted with two girls from Davao, one tall and one tiny. They say they were cousins. I would have gladly taken either but they wanted to go as a pair. I am not against two, but in the Philippines it is rarely such a good experience. Once hides in the bathroom or one is keen and the other really not into it. I have done the group think in London and in Thailand, it was great. But with Filipinas, either in the Philippines or out, it has rarely been so good. Plus the place I stay in I stay often. I did not want them to see me bringing home groups of working girls. One is ok.

So next I chatted up two older women at the main bar. They said they were about 30. They were very aggressive, constantly grabbing my crotch. Clearly they had done this many times. Too slutty for me tonight, plus they again were a pair.

Next I was in the downstairs back when I noticed this beautiful girl playing pool. She was tall for a Filipina, maybe 5'6" or more. Rail thin. Thick beautiful hair. Her face was either beautiful enough for the cover of glamor or funny, and still not sure. Anyway eventually she asks if I like her friends. She says they are tired and all want to go home with me.3 to 5 depending on how you count. Now she is beautiful, and so are her friends, but I was not up for a slumber party, especially as I expect she was all business and I might not even get laid.

I was about to head back upstairs when this beautiful thing appears in front of me. She looks to be 16, is dressed in an old gray t-shirt and jeans. About 5". Am in love. She is bold enough to approach me, but still shy. She is from a nearby town, she goes to school each day. Her family things she works sometimes in a call center, which is how she stays out. I asked to see her id, which looks ok, she is 20.

When we chat a bit in the car, cuddle, but she is clearly nervous. Back at the room, she asks to shower alone. She comes out and is beautiful. Angelic face. Tits of a teen, puffy, inverted nipples, perfect. Her pussy looks like it has never been trimmed. She is not so shy now. She gets into be next to me, but stiffens. She says "what will you pay me". I think and say what do you want. She says, not P500, ok? Some guys think that is enough. Will you give me P2, 000? No, how about P1, 500. Ok. She is a great fuck. Sweet, affectionate, cuddly. I love playing with her body. She is not aggressive and does never takes the lead, but she goes where I put her and cums easily. In the morning I wake up and she is snuggled against me. Wow, her body is even more amazing in the daylight. More teen than woman. We fuck again before she has to go to school. I give her P1, 500 plus P300 for taxi (she lives far).

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Girl 3) This night I was late. I did my walk though down stairs but then went upstairs to listen to music. I stood near the band enjoying the music. After a few minutes a girl came over and said Hi, remember me? Karen was this cute thing I had seen on earlier nights, joked a bit with but then moved on as I thought she was with a group of guys. She asks why I left last time and I explain, but she says I misunderstood. She says lets go play pool. It is fun, she jokes and teases and is very cute. But at some point I catch her smiling at another guy. After a few moments he comes over to challenge on the table, but I have paid for a half hour, so send him away. But I don't want to play her game, so after another game I tell her I have had enough. That I will go for a walk.

After a bit I am again listening to the music and I notice a very pretty girl smiling from the dance floor. She is more mestiza than I am use to. She as long think straight hair, to her butt. But it is brown/red rather than black. Large breasts, white skin and more European looking. She grabs my hand and we dance for a while. Then go back to her friends. She is, like Karen previously, drinking with a group. The other girls all look like pros. I ask her if she is with one of the guys and she says no, she is with me. We chat a bit. She is a domestic, living near my hotel. She asks about me. She asks if I am married and I tell her yes. She frowns and says she cannot go with a married man. So I say "well let's just dance and enjoy, no boom boom then". She looks away and is clearly bothered – not sure whether it was my status or the likely loss of customer. After about 5 uncomfortable minutes of silence – I was not going to walk away – we start talking again. Soon she says that this is the first time she has come with her friends, but they told her everything. She asks how much I will pay her. It is usally a bad sign, but I really sensed she was new to this and just doing what her friends told her to do. I ask how much does she want. Her friends have told her never to go for less than P3, 000. I tell her that is too expensive, perhaps P2, 000. She says her friends say more, I say no, P2, 000 is enough. But she does not leave, and we keep talking. After I while I suggest we go. (We pass Karen and the other guy leaving at the same time).

In the car she is a total GFE. We joke and cuddle. At my room she kisses me and I undress her. WOW! In the light she is still pretty, but her body is picture-perfect. That perfect skin and those large European breasts. Again, not shaved and the same color as her head. We had a really supper fuck. I don't know how many times she came, but it was easy and often, which makes it all the more fun. She moved where I put her, but also moved me where she wanted me. At one point she rode me cow girl and was such a sight to behold: beautiful long hair, beautiful face, those tits! When they are moving it is like art. We cuddled in the morning and banged again, when we finished I really did not want her to put her clothes on. She asked for my number, saying she did not have a phone, but wanted to see me again. I gave her P2, 500 because I was really happy with her. She asked how much it was and when I told her, she jumped up and down and hugged my neck.

Postscript, I have not heard from her.

PSS What is most interesting about Karen is that she really is a pro, but appears so gf like. I have since seen her a few times. She is always checking on me but does not approach.

Girl 4) The next night I was a gain very late, maybe midnight. Was tired but wanted company. After walking around down stairs I was accosted by this odd looking woman. She looked late 20s, was wearing a t-shirt and very torn jeans. No make up. Hair tied up, but sloppy. She looked kinda like she was about to clean her apartment. But she was attractive and had a great smile. I was tired and she was one of those girls upfront that quickly get to the point, so I said let's go. In the cab she is cuddly and totally at ease. She is in fact 35 years old, has 3 kids and does this from time to time to make a bit of money. On the one hand she has a great smile, on the other, I can only guess what her tummy is like.

Well she is quite ok. Her breasts are not those of a teen and her tummy is I guess the best that could be expected after 3 kids. She is definitely not "pro". On the plus side she is not shy, aggressive in bed, so horny and wet. We fucked a long time and I am guessing she enjoyed herself. She was also great in the morning. I gave her P1, 500 + P100. She seemed very happy.

Girl 5) The next night I hung around a long time. Did not see anyone that interested me, or perhaps was getting tired of it – if that is possible. It became very late and was watching pool downstairs, when I noticed this one small girl. She was short, less than five feet, short bobbed but think black hair, round face but Chinese eyes. What I noticed was that she had Chinese characters tattooed on her thigh, running up under her skirt. Earlier in the day I had been chatting on Yahoo with a girl who was looking for ideas for her first tattoo. I had suggested Chinese characters for "I am woman, hear me roar". Don't know why. So I wonder over to this girl and asked what the tattoo meant. I think she said "I love you". She said she was Malaysian, and I can't remember why she said she was in the Philippines. She is 20 and a student. Eventually we left.

She told me this was her second night, the first she had not been lucky. She needed money for school. Naked she was beautiful. White skink, small puffy breasts, black sparse fur, and a few tattoos. She told me that she had only ever had sex with her boyfriend before, and him only once. Humm. When we showered she commented how "big" I was. Now at 6" I am not big, even in the Filipino context I am probably just average. We played and cuddled, it felt like she had not done this a lot. I played with her, trying to get her wet. When I fingered her I thought I felt a barrier, but am not a fan of virgins so what do I know? When it came time to enter her, she stiffened. She was certainly tight. She did not stop me but looked like she was bracing herself. I tried to be gentle, go slow, but after a while I could see she was crying so pulled out. She said I she really had only done this once, and that was not very good. She wanted me to continue, to be happy. I should have been gentlemanly and just stopped, but she was too sexy and I was sooo malibog! So I put my dick back in just a bit, just enough to rub and cum quickly.

In the morning we cuddled again. She kept saying she had to go to school, to see her principal. But she did not get out of bed. She eventually asked if I wanted to fuck her again before she left, which of course I did. It was only slightly better than before. So she seems game. Her mind is willing, but body, and what a great one, has problems. I don't think she ever came.

Afterwards she began again with the bit about having to go see the principal. She was late, but she had to go. And she had to pay her tuition. Ah. Now I am getting it. She asks if I will give her extra money now to pay her tuition. She implies that we are now gf/bf. I am her second boyfriend and first foreigner. After thinking about it: she is beautiful, it did feel like a true experience (what kind, the gentle reader may be thinking) it is not a lot of money.. So I gave her P4, 000, with the understanding that I was paying her in advance for the next few days. She was so happy and off she went.

After she left I was asking myself, had I been hustled? Even if she came back, did I want her? She was beautiful, the idea of teaching this inexperienced teen turned me on, but she was a terrible fuck. So half of me was kicking myself for being such a sucker, half wanted to touch her skin again and half did not want her to show up so I could get properly fucked later.

To make a long story short, she did not show up. For the next few days she would send me text messages to her "love". She could not wait to see me, she misses me, she needs me. I would respond with similarly effusive messages, and asking where she was and was she coming. But she never showed up. Now I was not waiting around for her. I met a couple of excellent massage ladies on Burgos and spent another night with a "friend". I was getting regularly and properly fucked. Still I was irritated at being had.

Post script: A few days later I was back at LA and she was there. I caught her spying at me from across the room. I just smile and continued chatting with my next "date". I think the next two or three times I was in LA she came. Each night I stayed till the wee hours, and not once did I see her go with a guy. I did not even see her talk to a guy. So how much is true, how much BS. I think I felt her hymen. She has tattoos! She wanted and let me fuck her, but she cried and really was passive like someone who had no experience.

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So back to our survey. What is the best negotiating approach and how much should you pay?

It seems in general if I discussed price before hand I ended up paying more. If I said nothing, and she did not bring it up, the price was p1, 500+taxi. If she brought it up, then I was more flexible. If she tried to negotiate in the bar I was also more flexible.

In the end it seems like P1500 is the right price for basic LT with a basic girl. The best approach seems to be not to discuss price, and if she brings it up say P1, 500 and stick with it. If she is special and you have a great time P2, 000-3, 000. But under no circumstances should anyone pay more or EVER, EVER PAY FOR SCHOOL!

I hope you all appreciate the time, effort and cost I have expended for the greater good. Happy hunting!

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