Seoul

Tried the Yongsan RLD last week, it was half dead but found a decent girl (about 7/10) in one of the back alleys. 70k, the usual deal. A few decent looking girls were ready to go for 60k. There was a 7.5/10 who wanted 80k, I refused as always, (and I recommend we all stick to the 60-70k range), or soon all those girls are gonna start expecting 80k.

Still no reports on places north of the river?

Went to Zest this week for the first time. The logistics of finding this place are well described previously, until the very end. When you find the building and go downstairs, there are no signs for the place. Just a frosted sliding door where you need to ring a bell to enter.

Anyway, I pick the stewardess fantasy, and the girl is pretty enough. But, she does not allow ANY touching!!! WTF. She did take off the stocking finally, and then just wanted to have a regular conversation, not anything particularly sexy. I just went along with it but had a hard time concentrating with all the silly questions.

Finally, when the deed was finished, she just jumped up and asked if I wanted a shower, and took off. I had heard better things about the place, but that was not my experience. Will not return, in my opinion.

Total damage: 70k
Face: 7/10
Attitude: 3/10

Manfest, you should have reported the girl to management immediately. That's what I did when it happened to me at a similar joint else last year, and I was given a full refund or choice of another girl. Remember you're paying 70k for service, not for conversation, so don't let those girls get away with it.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Apparently as a result of the recent apprehension of a Govt minister with his pants down in a Seogye-dong room salon, the police have initiated another crackdown (according to one of the Korean-language dailies). It began on the 6th and is reported to continue until the end of May. No mention in the english language press, so Unclear whether it will extend to the expat specialists in the 'ville. But caution certainly is in order for those interested in wandering off the res' into the local establishments that also may be foreigner friendly, and prudence may also apply in Itaewon.[/QUOTE]I was thinking of going to Cool for the first time soon and this makes me a little worried. I searched through this forum extensively, but I still have a few questions that I couldn't find answers to. I've never done anything like this before, so sorry if these are dumb questions. Being deported, especially for something so embarrassing, is pretty much my worst nightmare, so I think caution is justified.

1. Someone said that Cool will never be busted as long as they only give handjobs. Is that true? Has nobody ever heard about it being raided?

2. What is the "safest" time of day/day of the week to go? When do raids usually occur?

3. How serious are crackdowns in Korea? If I'm that worried about it, should I just hold off going until June?

4. If I ever do get caught in a raid, what should I say/do? I don't speak a word of Korean. Call a Korean friend to talk to them for me?

Again, sorry if I come across as worrying too much, but I would really appreciate some answers to these questions.

Thanks

not sure if this website is being monitored or participated by the prosecution office in seoul, but for those who are considering potential sociological research into the areas mentioned in the title i highly recommend vigilance.

having rarely seen any police in gangnam i was surprised twice today.

first, as i stood outside cool, my heart started pounding and i knew something wasn't right. honest to god, two police cars drove by, one with lights and another with officers looking at me closely.

second, i was exploring the yeoksam area mentioned in another post from this website and another police car with lights flashing turns into a street just as i was cross at a very low speed.

not sure if the general policy is to follow foreigners while korean men are allowed to monger at home and abroad with immunity.

perhaps it was a giant coincidence. hard to imagine them following me on cctv from cool all the way through gangnam and up to yeoksam area.

that said, i have never partaken in these kinds of services and today probably sealed my initial plan never to do so.

either way, i am curious about other laws now. is it illegal for me to research this information? am i allowed to look at porn in this country?

perhaps i have taken some freedoms for granted. the idea of anyone watching me on the internet when i am probably the same as most other men when it comes to what i occassionally use the internet for (that is porn).

curious what the laws actually are. anyone know anything about this?

Cool

Have written several complimentary reports here (and clear directions for those of you who don’t bother to search the forum) but really cannot recommend this place now after too many bad experiences. Latest today when the girl gave the most unenthusiastic poor performance I have ever known. I almost called owner after 5 min. Did not ask for her name as she would only change it tomorrow if reported here (I dated some girls from these places and assure you none of them use real names – boss gives them a name when they start). However, waited until the end (25 min total and if she had her way it would have been 15) and told him but he was not interested. Just said sorry and that was it. Previous posters have suggested reporting girls to mama/papasan and I support that cause I found they usually listen – however maybe only at more quality places. As others have said, for the 75000won Cool is really one of the worst values in Seoul – stay away.

BELLE

Like most places hit and miss but 90% positive experience for me. Door guys are usually ok if you ask for a specific girl, or even recommend one. For 65000won the service is usually good (inc BBBJ) and you should leave happy. Only one bad experience on a busy Saturday night when the girl (min-je? ) rushed through the routine like an old professional (which maybe she was as certainly not fitting the young Belle mould like Ji-Hye and So-Hee). Recommended – but don’t you guys crowd this place cause already a few times in recent months they said a wait of couple hours was necessary so business must be good.

In fact. Cool always has space when Belle/Zest have waiting time. Wonder why!

ZEST

Not good value unless you like the uniform thing – but for 70000won you can have your ‘stewardess’ or ‘schoolgirl’ or ‘waitress’ tease you for 1 hour and in my experience they do spend all of the time playing with your mr happy. Footjob, legjob, facesitting etc available but very little touching allowed and girls are fully clothed so as I said this is not for everyone. Girls usually young and cute but not anything like model standard and usually have good attitude. Door guys don’t have much english but guy managing the place at night tries to please – even gave me free session as the girl I made reservation for was not available. That’s good service!

THAI MASSAGE

Between sinsa and nonhyeon. Service is same as Belle but the guys running this are clearly extremely anti-foreigner. Every time the first reaction is to say no entry. Although I got past this a few times and they were ok the attitude deserves no business.

KOREANA SPOREX

Well reviewed recently. For 120000won it is awful value, even granted that the massage is good quality. Also the management seem to have a very righteous attitude and not exactly friendly. Girls are usually, but not always, good looking and generally allow hand roaming but of course remain fully clothed. Most focus completely on the massage then a quick finish but a couple have actually been fun and combined a quality massage with erotic touches. But seems like that is the exception – not the normal.

ANMAS

Only tried a couple. One in Gangnam near Seoulleung good service as described here previously and super cute girl and 180K price (sorry don’t remember name). Also tried New York anma in jongno area and the quality of girl and service was awful – compared to the Gangnam anma as well as previous posts. And the cost was 220K! Also, why do they have the blind massage? Like some other posters, I suggest you just skip it.

588 CHEONGYANGNI

Interesting place but at least in my experience they are only interested in koreans. Some 50 year old back alley workers are interested, but that’s not for me.

ROOM SALON

Fun for a business night out but even here the quality ranges dramatically. First, you should of course go with Korean friends/colleagues. Service can range from just serving drinks/smalltalk/hugging (around $200 per person) to serving drinks, undressing, wild dancing naked on the table, naked karaoke, and finally BBBJ all in the same room – quite an experience (around $300 per person). Can we get an ISG forum group ready for a trip to one of these?

KOREAN NIGHTCLUB

Maybe also called booking club? Not really a place that should feature on ISG but the scene is you go as a group (with Koreans of course) and buy a table inc drinks then waiters bring girls to our table all night. They drink your beer/whisky and stay a few minutes if they don’t like you or a long time if they do. It is a cool idea and you meet all sorts – not working girls, just regular customers who get free drinks for the price of being physically dragged to specific tables by waiters). If you are lucky. .

ITAEWON

I know sometimes I complain about the korean-only attitude at some places around seoul but I encourage all you guys to branch out from Itaewon. Discover the best of Seoul?

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My contribution:

Belle

Went there yesterday in the afternoon, all seemed quiet. Forked over 70k, and got down to business. I didn't get BBBJ, which I was a bit disappointed, and service was 6/10. Girl (I forgot name) had a cute face and nice body, which made up for it. I think I will try again sometime this coming week.

Wow

Strolled over there after Belle, and there is a piece of paper on the door. Seems like this place is shutdown now. The paper had some dates on there like 3/30 - 4/6, but it's a week later and still looks dead.

Itaewon

Walked around hooker hill last night and was not all that impressed. Went into a bar, talked to the girls for a bit, paid 20k for each of her drink, and girl was not all that great. Maybe not my cup of tea I guess, I prefer Anmas or Room Salon/KTV places.

Will look to head over to the anma near Seolleung area this week.

Went to zest. Yes just a hand job place, no touching above the waste (for the most part) and very limiting. BUT I found some ways to have fun. But you have to be in the right frame of mind.

I'm not a REALLY kinky guy, so I don't have a lot of fetishes, but when the other RLD places make you rush, it is nice to slow down. So first, I really like the costumes. I've done school girl, cheerleader, airline hostess and casual style. This last time was casual style and the outfit was hot. Cutoff shorts, an off-the-shoulder shirt. Really slutty.

So first, I had her pose, on the chair, on all fours on the bed. Then I had her smoke a cig. On the chair while the other hand went down her pants to play with herself.

Then, I had her get on her knees and take my dick out and start her hand job. I also made her talk "Oh, your cock is so big" "I am a dirty ****" that kind of stuff.

I was a little intoxicated and slow, so her HJ lasted 30 minutes or so, lots of oi, lots of talking and whatever else I could think of.

Oh yeah, I had seen the girl before and she remembered me, so we had built a little relationship. That doesn't mean much, except that this time I convinced her to let me put my hand inside her bra and I held her titties while she stroked me.

I also showed her a video I had on my laptop (came from work) of me fucking another Korean girl in my house. We watched that while she was doing her thing.

Yes, there is no above touching, but you can get grinding, you can simulate many positions and do all the things your girlfriend or other providers won't do.

Not a great value, but good for after a drunk night out.

A quick question: How much of an effect (positive or negative) on your ability to monger (primarily seeking FS) if you are a Korean-American with decent mastery of the language? I will be visiting Seoul for about a week next month, and I am trying to find out where I should and should not go.

I am sure a lot of non-Koreans will likely say that a guy like me should have it made since I speak the language and look the part. But it has been my experience in other countries that if you look local, there are pluses and minuses.

Any input would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]DISCRIMINATION!!

LOL!!

I guess looking like the locals can do more harm than good in this situation...damn you round eyed caucasians!

But that seriously sucks. Whats the prices like though?[/QUOTE]

neukd,

don't worry about it. you just need to go to the right hunting grounds and be a bit more aggressive and you should do fine.

dh

I had visited Baek Song a year or two ago and had a reasonable time. It was really hot in Seoul, so I figured a stop in the anma would be good.

Got off at Yeoksam and bumbled my way around until I found the building that looked like where I went before, but it's not called Baek Song any more. In fact, I can't remember what it's called now.

I went inside and asked if this used to be Baek Song and the counter lady replied yes. I paid the entrance fee of 180k and went downstairs. Their sauna was broken and the shower dude that wiped you down was no longer there.

I got in my robe and waited until they called me. When I got in the elevator there was a girl with a mask on. I'd heard about this but never experienced it myself. She stopped the elevator midway up to my floor, opened my robe and started kissing my nipples and rubbing my cock. She then started giving me a bj and after a minute or two, put a condom on me, turned around and bent over and shoved me inside her. She told me not to cum. It was exciting as it was totally unexpected.

She then pulled the condom off, straightened out her clothes and opened the elevator door. I had a full on erection that was hard to conceal. But oh well.

I went in my room and a wonderful session with the lady there. She was cute with a nice body. Not as hot looking as I had years ago, but she made it for it with exemplary service. It was the standard shower/rinse, soapy massage w/bbbj and rimming, then shower again. More rimming, bbbj and CFS.

I would definitely go back. I'll try to jot down the new name on my next return trip.

Any other recommendations on where to try while in Seoul? Cool? Belle?

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[QUOTE=Neukd]A quick question: How much of an effect (positive or negative) on your ability to monger (primarily seeking FS) if you are a Korean-American with decent mastery of the language? I will be visiting Seoul for about a week next month, and I am trying to find out where I should and should not go.

I am sure a lot of non-Koreans will likely say that a guy like me should have it made since I speak the language and look the part. But it has been my experience in other countries that if you look local, there are pluses and minuses.

Any input would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.

However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.

BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Akeaton]I had visited Baek Song a year or two ago and had a reasonable time. It was really hot in Seoul, so I figured a stop in the anma would be good. [/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I am interested in this place. Anyone knows how to get there?

Is this located in a hotel? please comment.

Thanks

Certainly a provocative report but without the new name and, especially, any indication at all regarding how to get there, not imo worthy of cross-referencing in ROD (notwithstanding admin suggestion. Fill in the needed details, and I'll cross-post it myself.

[QUOTE=Zackary Kr]Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.

However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.

BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).

Good luck![/QUOTE]Sound advice for ethnic Koreans regarding Itaewon. Many of the girls, especially the higher quality ones, are not welcoming of Koreans, in (large) part at least because the reason they are working in Itaewon and not elsewhere is that they want to minimize the risk of running into anyone they know.

Conversely, while helpful, Korean language skills are not likely to get the waegook into many of the places that cater to the locals. There are exceptions, many of the best of which are noted in the forum, but there are many, many more where foreigners (i.e. non-ethnic Korean) simply aren't welcome.