Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Joe2422;2989145]I don't know where this misconception comes from. But I spend many months in Pattaya every year. 95% of all the women I've met use Line! It is and remains the number one messaging service.[/QUOTE]True but that's changing. For months non-thai users have been complaining that they can't add girls to line using an ID, now someone has to send a QR to get connected. All that time, users have been complaining about this being a fault until last month Line said that they have set up regional blocks. I got a Thai sim in December to be able to set up a Line account and be able to add ID's again.

Because of this, people are starting to move to Whatsapp, more girls are offering a WA number as well as a Line ID.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2989199]Hey I was following Mr Enternational way of going to Soi 6 seeing a chick a liked and saying lets go straight upstairs for short time. However recently I had a chick say you have to buy two drinks I thought she was taking the piss so I decline. I went to the next bar and a chick said it again this time I accepted but instead of offering 2000st like most seem to want I only offer 1500 because of the drinks. Does anybody know if this is the new normal. I'm also not sure if it's two drinks for me or anyone or two for them.[/QUOTE]Normally when they say you have to buy two drinks it means you have to pay two Ladydrinks for the girl.

Maybe their genius management is trying hard to get rid of their uglies because plenty of girls won't get a single baht if that's the new norm.

[QUOTE=Joe2422;2989145]I don't know where this misconception comes from. But I spend many months in Pattaya every year. 95% of all the women I've met use Line! It is and remains the number one messaging service.[/QUOTE]LOL. It is not a misconception. It comes from meeting people. Even my own girlfriend has Whatsapp instead of Line. I do not even ask for Whatsapp; I ask for Line. People will say I do not have Line, I have Whatsapp. Come on man. 20 years I have not come on this site to spew BS. I come to state my objective experience.

Just a quick reminder once again that both share your information, especially WhatsApp with FaceBook, both belonging to Meta. So if the number or email you use is attached to a social media account, your friends, new and old, will get new friend suggestions from your account to be friends in their account. That is how somebody found out "everything" also plays dirty with gender non conformers of Soi Pothole. So use burner numbers and burner accounts. Or else risk being "out' and losing anonymity. We live in a track and trace world. Got to be slick.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2959543]... I know him will say the girls. Oh yeah, want 1 more drink? He's my buddy, but I lost his LINE info. Bam. LINE sent through share. Then comes Facebook and everything else. Oddly enough, SWIM admitted when he may have in fact made the secret add, then about a week later, those suggestions for friends started popping up. Most friends suggestion where in Thailand, but weird that some where Thai girls, some where foreign guys, and some were EL Bees. Wonder whose to blame for this? The only other friend of the same old LINE account is a 70 year old OG from the dark side that has been the account for years. Somebody is playing dirty.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2989411]LOL. It is not a misconception. It comes from meeting people. Even my own girlfriend has Whatsapp instead of Line. I do not even ask for Whatsapp; I ask for Line. People will say I do not have Line, I have Whatsapp. Come on man. 20 years I have not come on this site to spew BS. I come to state my objective experience.[/QUOTE]I have both. And Telegram.

Lots of experts here recently.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2989447]So use burner numbers and burner accounts.[/QUOTE]How do you use a burner number for WhatsApp nowadays? I used to do this by having a second number through an app called Sideline that costs $10/ month and then using that with a dual WhatsApp account. That was a few years ago. Now, WhatsApp won't register the Sideline number because they know it's fake.

[QUOTE=Intrepid123;2989387]Soi 6 is becoming increasingly difficult to allow Long Time thanks to the Koreans. If given the chance they will barfine all the best ladies at opening time without buying any drinks. This is why you have these increasing restrictions on time, price and drinks.

I avoid the Asian oriented ladies, they are after Koreans / Japanese dudes. Still leaves me plenty of choice. I avoid bars that are openly targeted towards Asians as well, some even put Korean flags around.[/QUOTE]I have often said, "When Japanese and Korean guys are present, the rest of us have problems competing with them too. ".

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2989381]Probably the Nightwish bars if true. OP go to the old fashioned Red point and if you want no BS.[/QUOTE]Problem with red point is girls kind of old an uGly.

I decided to give PinUp another try and see if the girl I drank with last time was more willing to be bar fined. Once again the place was packed and there were plenty of girls, however the quality seemed a little down on the first night I went. My wingman and I settled in and I spotted my girl and quickly asked for her to come for a few drinks. My wingman also spotted a girl he liked. I reminded my wingman to ask her if she bar fines before he bought too many drinks. Turns out that my wingman's girl did not bar fine so he moved her on. Mine agreed to be bar fined and said I needed to talk to her mamasan to confirm the deal. So she went up to dance and I asked the drinks staff to find me her mamasan. By the time they brought over the rudest and ugliest mamasan I have ever seen, my girl had been bought drinks by another customer even though she was drinking with me and had a drink to be finished. I told the mamasan that I wanted to bar fine her and she said she would talk to the girl. After about 30 minutes the girl was still drinking with the other customer and I again asked what was happening to the drinks staff. The mamasan made no effort to come back to me and tell me what was happening. I then got told by drinks staff that she was drinking with a VIP customer and would be over soon. Well, soon never happened and after waiting for 30 minutes decided to cut the night and leave. Not sure what the game was but the mamasan had no interest in bar firing the girl and did not even bother to come back and tell me that she was with another customer. Perhaps VIPs get better treatment, but having been on tour for many many years I know that VIPs come and go as do agogos like PinUp. So if my money is not valued or welcomed then that is fine by me. Plenty of options in Pattaya.

Back to BKK tomorrow where I know in places like Billboard I get treated like a VIP even if I am not.

Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=Axiata;2989623]I decided to give PinUp another try and see if the girl I drank with last time was more willing to be bar fined. Once again the place was packed and there were plenty of girls, however the quality seemed a little down on the first night I went. My wingman and I settled in and I spotted my girl and quickly asked for her to come for a few drinks. My wingman also spotted a girl he liked. I reminded my wingman to ask her if she bar fines before he bought too many drinks. Turns out that my wingman's girl did not bar fine so he moved her on. Mine agreed to be bar fined and said I needed to talk to her mamasan to confirm the deal. So she went up to dance and I asked the drinks staff to find me her mamasan. By the time they brought over the rudest and ugliest mamasan I have ever seen, my girl had been bought drinks by another customer even though she was drinking with me and had a drink to be finished. I told the mamasan that I wanted to bar fine her and she said she would talk to the girl. After about 30 minutes the girl was still drinking with the other customer and I again asked what was happening to the drinks staff. The mamasan made no effort to come back to me and tell me what was happening. I then got told by drinks staff that she was drinking with a VIP customer and would be over soon. Well, soon never happened and after waiting for 30 minutes decided to cut the night and leave. Not sure what the game was but the mamasan had no interest in bar firing the girl and did not even bother to come back and tell me that she was with another customer. Perhaps VIPs get better treatment, but having been on tour for many many years I know that VIPs come and go as do agogos like PinUp. So if my money is not valued or welcomed then that is fine by me. Plenty of options in Pattaya.

Back to BKK tomorrow where I know in places like Billboard I get treated like a VIP even if I am not.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is quite shocking that VIP customers get priority over non-VIP customers. The nerve of the bars to treat VIP customers better than regular customers. How dare they do that! VIPs should be treated the same as other customers even if they paid a member fee or have earned their status as VIP members. I get outraged at the same way that people who pay for first class tickets get more comfortable seats and better food. They should sit in the back with coach passengers and get the same shitty food as those who pay coach. The nerve of these people!

[QUOTE=Axiata;2989623]Perhaps VIPs get better treatment, but having been on tour for many many years I know that VIPs come and go as do agogos like PinUp. So if my money is not valued or welcomed then that is fine by me. Plenty of options in Pattaya.

Back to BKK tomorrow where I know in places like Billboard I get treated like a VIP even if I am not.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]There was no VIP. The girl didn't want to go with you.

You don't need to deal with the mamasan to get a girl out. If she wants to leave with you she just calls mamasan herself and would not put you through all that bullshit.

[QUOTE=Axiata;2989623]I told the mamasan that I wanted to bar fine her and she said she would talk to the girl. After about 30 minutes the girl was still drinking with the other customer and I again asked what was happening to the drinks staff. The mamasan made no effort to come back to me and tell me what was happening. I then got told by drinks staff that she was drinking with a VIP customer and would be over soon. Well, soon never happened and after waiting for 30 minutes decided to cut the night and leave.[/QUOTE]I am not a big bar fine guy, but if I was then that broad has 2 minutes to get her shit and come. What is with 2 days of trying to pick up the same hooker? It should have been obvious the first day that she did not want to come, so why throw more money at her?

I tell those TF chicks they better be on their way in 10 minutes, so I am definitely not waiting 30 minutes for a chick that is sitting right in front of me. That is like McDonald's telling you your Big Mac is coming out soon while you are sitting there with cold fries and a hot drink in front of you. I guess this is what the other BM wants to avoid when he said choose the girl that chooses you.

It looks like the game has been twisted into a pretzel. It should be somebody is bar fining me so it is my last drink with you, not someone is drinking with me so your bar fine has to wait.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2989538]How do you use a burner number for WhatsApp nowadays? I used to do this by having a second number through an app called Sideline that costs $10/ month and then using that with a dual WhatsApp account. That was a few years ago. Now, WhatsApp won't register the Sideline number because they know it's fake.[/QUOTE]I should have been more specific and said burner SIM. Once a temporary SIM is installed, you can update your app to the new phone number or start an entirely different account. Some apps will require you to delete and reinstall. Your old phone SIM will work again when you switch it with the temporary SIM. The virtual numbers won't work with WhatsApp or LINE anymore. Has to be SIM. Some apps still allow virtual numbers. Players need to be sneaky as much as the girls. I see ya playa, trying to have multiple identities. LOL.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2989634]There was no VIP. The girl didn't want to go with you.

You don't need to deal with the mamasan to get a girl out. If she wants to leave with you she just calls mamasan herself and would not put you through all that bullshit.[/QUOTE]Exactly. -.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2989651]I am not a big bar fine guy, but if I was then that broad has 2 minutes to get her shit and come. What is with 2 days of trying to pick up the same hooker? It should have been obvious the first day that she did not want to come, so why throw more money at her?

I tell those TF chicks they better be on their way in 10 minutes, so I am definitely not waiting 30 minutes for a chick that is sitting right in front of me. That is like McDonald's telling you your Big Mac is coming out soon while you are sitting there with cold fries and a hot drink in front of you. I guess this is what the other BM wants to avoid when he said choose the girl that chooses you.

It looks like the game has been twisted into a pretzel. It should be somebody is bar fining me so it is my last drink with you, not someone is drinking with me so your bar fine has to wait.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I have only bar fined three times. But each time the transition was between me and the girl. I either paid the bar fine directly to the girl (beer bar). Or in the case of when I was in a gentleman's club it amount was added to my bill. The girl handled everything and we were on our way.

Gentlemen need to recognize when your offer is being accepted, tolerated or rejected. A price quote that is out of line means the girl does not want to go with you. But she will if you pay her outrageous fee because she gets a windfall payment.