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[url]http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/06/29/red_shirts_and_rowdy_royals[/url]
This writer is well known for his coverage of Thai politics. I found this article to be a good introduction to the topic. Perhaps not as detailed or current as the Asia Times story cited by Mr. Giotto, but for those of us who are trying to master the basics this is excellent.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1172173]. He built up a chain of cavernous emporiums with names like "The Sea of Love" and "Copacabana," where scores of women wearing little but bikinis and numbers on plastic tags waited behind glass walls for customers." Guess we all know about that, LOL.[/QUOTE]What is this all about? Emporiums with women in bikinis? And we do not know anything about it?
Come on guys. Where are the reports? Any address? LOL
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1172260][url]http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/06/29/red_shirts_and_rowdy_royals[/url]
This writer is well known for his coverage of Thai politics. I found this article to be a good introduction to the topic. Perhaps not as detailed or current as the Asia Times story cited by Mr. Giotto, but for those of us who are trying to master the basics this is excellent.
Bunky[/QUOTE]The election is a bit of joke really. The "FlemJemPie" party are cheating like nobodies business. They have their associates printing the ballot forms and are said to have had quite a few million (tens of millions) printed as "spares just in case they run short".
Which means all those spares are all being ticked "FlemJemPie" and a certain Mr JizzChob is getting his cohorts to insert to make sure he wins plenty of seats for his party. The army and election commission are overlooking this because he is only doing it in "Poor Thai" party area's so as to keep their seats down and allow JizzChob to join with Adashit of the UnDemocrats to make the new government.
Vote buying. The watchdogs should be watching for Jizzchob and what he is up to.
Yingluck Shinawatra has unofficially won the Thai election with a land slide victory. Reportedly she has won 313 seats out of a total of 465.
'An exit poll by Bangkok's Suan Dusit University, considered the most historically reliable, showed Puea Thai winning 313 seats with Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva's Democrat Party taking just 152'
Just maybe this landslide victory will keep the Yellow Shirt riots to minimum?
However making statements like "Mr Thaksin called me to congratulate me and encourage me," Yingluck said of her brother, a billionaire ousted in a 2006 coup who now lives in Dubai to avoid jail for graft charges he says were politically motivated. ' "He told me that there is still much hard work ahead of us," she told reporters.
Before she's even official declared the winner; this might just spark another military coup is short time.
Thailand may or may not go even further down depending on how fast they try to return Mr. Thaksin to Thailand and full power, as opposed to the power he expresses by email and phone and TV interviews. His sister has offered a pardon to all political criminals.
Prediction, air fares to Thailand may be a bargain later this month.
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1172260][url]http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/06/29/red_shirts_and_rowdy_royals[/url]
This writer is well known for his coverage of Thai politics. I found this article to be a good introduction to the topic. Perhaps not as detailed or current as the Asia Times story cited by Mr. Giotto, but for those of us who are trying to master the basics this is excellent.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Nah. They won't vote for her. Its just a short term fad said advisers. Oops how wrong they were.
Sunday July 3, 2011. Thaksin party wins Thai election by a landslide. Exit polls Thailand's opposition swept to power in a surprise election landslide on Sunday, led by the sister of former Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra in a victory for the rural and urban poor.
The above is probably correct. Old power-old money were just unwilling to 'move with the times'. I can't see how they would deal with an outright majority. Going to be interesting. Short term, streets should be very very happy. And noisy.
Gentlemen kiss it goodbye, the killjoys are back in power. Our brief respite under the return of the good old Ancien Régime is over, and we return to barbarous democracy (which we all know from our own homelands is not compatible with any kind of fun, least of all our kind).
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1172363]The election is a bit of joke really. The "FlemJemPie" party are cheating like nobodies business. They have their associates printing the ballot forms and are said to have had quite a few million (tens of millions) printed as "spares just in case they run short".
Which means all those spares are all being ticked "FlemJemPie" and a certain Mr JizzChob is getting his cohorts to insert to make sure he wins plenty of seats for his party. The army and election commission are overlooking this because he is only doing it in "Poor Thai" party area's so as to keep their seats down and allow JizzChob to join with Adashit of the UnDemocrats to make the new government.
Vote buying. The watchdogs should be watching for Jizzchob and what he is up to.[/QUOTE]Notice how exit polls suggested that Bumjaithai would get only 10 seats and yet wonder of wonders they managed to get over 30.
Rig a Rig a Rig. Said someone.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1172546]Notice how exit polls suggested that Bumjaithai would get only 10 seats and yet wonder of wonders they managed to get over 30.
Rig a Rig a Rig. Said someone.[/QUOTE]LOL,
Another "Friend of Newin". I love him, too.
The results:
PT: 263 seats.
DP: 162 seats.
BJT: 34 seats (that's Newin's party)
CP: 19 seats
Voters turnout: 65. 99. Lower than 2007, that's strange. Rumours coming up, that the turnout in some PT / red strongholds was very low. I don't believe that.
1. 7 Mio. Bad ballots (5. 17 %). That's strange.
Looks like there was an attempt of the establishment to manipulate a bit. But due to the landslide victory of the PT their options were limited.
Good news: After "owning" the ministry of interior for years Newin is losing it now. :):):)
Giotto
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Now that the poll results are out and as predicted Thaksin allies are back in power, would like to know from people who know and follow the scene closely the implications one can expect on the
- mongering scene.
- go go bars functioning.
Thai economy is largely dependent on tourism so what do you guys feel the policies of the newly elected government would be towards what effects us on the forum most?
I don't understand the general anti-Thaksin sentiment in this forum. It seems he did a pretty good job all things considered when he was in power. Yeah he was corrupt but not more than most, and at least he got things moving a bit for the underclass as well. Sure he started some riots but that's after being kicked out of power in a coup. Is it his fault or the fault of those who did the coup in the first place? So what's with all the anti-Thaksin vibe?
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1172716]I don't understand the general anti-Thaksin sentiment in this forum. It seems he did a pretty good job all things considered when he was in power. Yeah he was corrupt but not more than most, and at least he got things moving a bit for the underclass as well. Sure he started some riots but that's after being kicked out of power in a coup. Is it his fault or the fault of those who did the coup in the first place? So what's with all the anti-Thaksin vibe?[/QUOTE]I'm with you, Chill. Under the new government the lives of the vast underclass will improve quickly and dramatically which I strongly favor.
I predicted this outcome in this forum some months ago. The danger is that the entrenched elite might decide to try and overrule the people by force. It will be a sad and bloody episode if they do.
The upper class and business people will have to shell out more so they and their sycophants are all bent out of shape about it. Ruthless exploitation of the poor is a very popular way of aquiring wealth and power in SE Asia, pretty much all over in fact.
Thaksin will crack down on illicit drugs and most corruption hard, which also puts off some folks. The pay-for-play industry will continue on pretty much as it is, though I expect it will become much more expensive and difficult for non-Thai's to compete in this arena. Some of the outsider operated venues that have proliferated in recent years will be facing a rough go. Which is probably a good thing, overall.
Lets face it, Chill, ever since Reaganomics and the greed-is-good Fascists he empowered came into their own in the States, the unenfranchised throughout the world have pretty much all suffered in the same way the American middle class has. Only those in the so called third world suffer much, much more, because they had so little to start with.
The rich get richer, and when the poor join together and rise up to demand a bigger slice of the pie, they don't like it.
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1172677]Thai economy is largely dependent on tourism[/QUOTE]Are you sure about that?
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1172716]I don't understand the general anti-Thaksin sentiment in this forum. It seems he did a pretty good job all things considered when he was in power.[/QUOTE]During Thaksin's power, did the p4p (foreigner oriented) scene get better or worse? And, did the conditions for foreigners / expats get better or worse?
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1172802]Are you sure about that?[/QUOTE]Appropriate question.
If I am not wrong agricultural and textile industries prevail.
Tourism a jsut a more visible industry, for the foreigners, so seems to take over.
Taken the famous tourist locations (5?) , Thailand does not seem to be invaded by tourism!
Even if it is not a Bible, one should read this to get a better idea of what Thailand is from an ecnomical point of view
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand[/url]#Economy.
(there is an interesting part dedicated to the monger world and their contribution to thai GDP, LOL)
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1172802]Are you sure about that?[/QUOTE]Not really.
Approx. 7 % of the GDP.
Giotto
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