Dubai Reports

[QUOTE=Sporadic]I admit complete ignorance here, what is/are VVSes?[/QUOTE]

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Thanks BP, learn something every day.

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[QUOTE=WhySoSerious]... I moved on and low and behold I met diana again dressed in backless top (the one without a bra you can see through the sides of! ) and versache jeans. A girl next door kirsten dunst look-a-like I [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you not! Looked 19 was 21 cute and sweet.
... Then came the disappointment. ..

Whysoserious. Mongering is for a fun time not a serious time.
[/QUOTE]Nice fun reports. I'm 99% sure I negotiated with Diana on behalf of a pal a few months ago. She's gorgeous - like you said, in a sweet and innocent girl-next-door sort of way - probably the best-looking girl in Premiere that night. She certainly stands out in the crowd with her natural winsome beauty amongst the dozens of overmade-up WGs there. I managed to negotiate down from 2000 to 1500 within a few minutes, then she agreed on 1000 near closing time. Pal and I left the club (I was going home, he was going to a hotel). Diana said she would follow him a few minutes later in a separate cab, but when my pal called her 15 minutes later, she said she was suddenly not feeling well (translation: she'd suddenly found a better-paying customer). She knows the game. She was nice enough to talk to (very cheeky) but I sensed at the time she might be a bit of a disappointment in terms of service, so luckily for my pal she backed out. Christina sounds like she was definitely much more GFE.

[QUOTE=Bpd81] At Seaview ... Lot of middle-age guys shooting pool and getting shit faced. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sporadic] That would be Piper then. [/QUOTE]Not me. Firstly, I'm not middle-aged yet (considering I'll live to over 100). Secondly, I never play pool at Seaview (terrible band and ugly singers keep me away. ;)) Thirdly, I'm not in Dubai at the moment. My alibi is skintight!

Just a few comments on Bp's report.
I'm told the bass player in the Seaview is not a carpet muncher but would have thought it a good guess!
Those security guards in the Novotel really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off. I gave in and bunged one 20D a while ago and he looked all upset. Next time he tries I say I'm not paying today, this girl has copy passport which is OK. He says no so I insist on the manager, he says nothing to do with the manager. I just shout louder until the manager comes and apologises for the hassle I'm being given and up to my room I go.
They did me a favour a while ago however when the girl I took didn't look so good in the light of day so I said sorry they won't let you in and gave her the taxi fare back!
If you want Filipinas I've found Ratsky's in the Karama hotel a good choice but lately getting them below 500D is difficult, I reckon 300D is plently.
Happy Mongering New year.

A new and frightening development has just taken place in Dubai, and most surprisingly, at one of my favourite hotels. The 4 points sheraton (old one). The last time I was there was end of August.

Normally, once a girl has been given a 'nod and a wink' by hotel security to proceed accompanied up to a room, that is pretty much that. Happy hour starts. But, something different happened to one of my friends, and 2 of his mates a few weeks ago.

In the first week of November, this group of 3 guys (aged between 19 and 24. One of them happened to be this very good personal friend of mine) were arrested by police after one of them was 'caught' in their hotel room with a CIS girl (suffice to say that the girl was taken too). All 3 guys were in their own rooms, and only one of them had brought up this girl. The other 2 had no knowledge of what the 3rd guy was doing. It was 2 o'clock in the morning and the others were asleep. It has to be said that all 3 guys had come in as a group and were on the same booking. Guilt by association I guess?

There was no arguement with hotel management or security, no warning, no history of trouble. There were no drugs, even no alcohol, yet the authorities have decided that this matter was serious enough to send ALL 3 of them away for 8 (YES EIGHT! ) years each. I shit you not.

My mates family are not without resources. They are one of the UK's foremost property developers. Spending a few million £STERLING on lawyers or 'contacts' is not beyond them. Despite all this money, they've already had 2 appeals turned down. I can't vouch for the other 2 guys, but my mate is completely innocent. Every man has an itch that needs scratching now and then, but on this occasion, he'd definately called it a night.

Now call me paranoid, but this has really sent a shiver down my spine.

Has anybody else heard of anything like this happening in any other hotels/establishments in Dubai?

Now, I'm in Dubai this weekend and I'm seriously having second thoughts about a few things I had planned.

Hey Piper1,

Thanx for your input on Diana. Thought she may have caught other mongers eyes in Premiere. Its tough when you have such beauty to assume the service will be great. Others be aware if you go there shes damn good eye candy but won't satisfy you especially for that amount of money.

The 'drop a trick' for a better offer thing you mentioned about your pal is common practice in premiere. I know because I've done it myself! U come outside and all the WG (who hvent got deals) wait for a taxi with punters. You overhear last minute deals being struck and come in with a slightly better but still far less offer than what they originally posted to you in the club. Admittedly I did do it to a couple of locals who suspicously were setting up this fit CIS WG for an unnofficial gang bang with their mates back at their flat. So I didn't feel too guilty! Wink

So be warned guys last minute deals are good but always be aware that CIS especially always look for a better deal right up to getting in a taxi. Some don't but they are few and far between. Its a prickly buisness and they do LITERALLY SCREW you for it.

WhySoSerious. Screw me, thrill me, kiss me, leave me.

[QUOTE=Joe Banana]Just a few comments on Bp's report.
I'm told the bass player in the Seaview is not a carpet muncher but would have thought it a good guess!
Those security guards in the Novotel really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off. I gave in and bunged one 20D a while ago and he looked all upset. Next time he tries I say I'm not paying today, this girl has copy passport which is OK. He says no so I insist on the manager, he says nothing to do with the manager. I just shout louder until the manager comes and apologises for the hassle I'm being given and up to my room I go.
They did me a favour a while ago however when the girl I took didn't look so good in the light of day so I said sorry they won't let you in and gave her the taxi fare back!
If you want Filipinas I've found Ratsky's in the Karama hotel a good choice but lately getting them below 500D is difficult, I reckon 300D is plently.
Happy Mongering New year.[/QUOTE]

500 is usually my limit and is the max I have paid until the other night. She was cutey though and I have a soft spot below for Filipinas. Also the floor manager I guess he thought I was a rookie to Dubai. I know a copy of your passport is all that is required. I just paid him the money so he would go away. Those few minutes I wasted with him no amount of money in the world can return. Other then that it was a good night.

Usually this would be something "fixed" by somebody with a grievance with the guys or their families... I can not really think that they were picked randomly. If this is the case, yes this is a truly dangerous development.

[QUOTE=Bignaz]A new and frightening development has just taken place in Dubai, and most surprisingly, at one of my favourite hotels. The 4 points sheraton (old one). The last time I was there was end of August.

Normally, once a girl has been given a 'nod and a wink' by hotel security to proceed accompanied up to a room, that is pretty much that. Happy hour starts. But, something different happened to one of my friends, and 2 of his mates a few weeks ago.

In the first week of November, this group of 3 guys (aged between 19 and 24. One of them happened to be this very good personal friend of mine) were arrested by police after one of them was 'caught' in their hotel room with a CIS girl (suffice to say that the girl was taken too). All 3 guys were in their own rooms, and only one of them had brought up this girl. The other 2 had no knowledge of what the 3rd guy was doing. It was 2 o'clock in the morning and the others were asleep. It has to be said that all 3 guys had come in as a group and were on the same booking. Guilt by association I guess?

There was no arguement with hotel management or security, no warning, no history of trouble. There were no drugs, even no alcohol, yet the authorities have decided that this matter was serious enough to send ALL 3 of them away for 8 (YES EIGHT! ) years each. I shit you not.

My mates family are not without resources. They are one of the UK's foremost property developers. Spending a few million £STERLING on lawyers or 'contacts' is not beyond them. Despite all this money, they've already had 2 appeals turned down. I can't vouch for the other 2 guys, but my mate is completely innocent. Every man has an itch that needs scratching now and then, but on this occasion, he'd definately called it a night.

Now call me paranoid, but this has really sent a shiver down my spine.

Has anybody else heard of anything like this happening in any other hotels/establishments in Dubai?

Now, I'm in Dubai this weekend and I'm seriously having second thoughts about a few things I had planned.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bignaz]One of them happened to be this very good personal friend of mine) were arrested by police after one of them was 'caught' in their hotel room with a CIS girl (suffice to say that the girl was taken too). [/QUOTE]
Sounds like a bad moment for your friend, sorry about that, but it also seems to be of the "urban legend" style.

In only a "couple of weeks" they have been tried, and convicted to 8 years each? Including the boys found sleeping in their own rooms, alone?

I saw nothing in the press (well, THAT is no indicator of veracity.)

Bignaz, I am not challenging you on your report in any way, but I suspect that you may not have been given ALL the details.

[QUOTE=Cons68]Usually this would be something "fixed" by somebody with a grievance with the guys or their families... I can not really think that they were picked randomly. If this is the case, yes this is a truly dangerous development.[/QUOTE]

My company did warn us upon arrival to Dubai that massage parlors were being raided and their Johns were getting arrested also. About hotels I have no clue. Be careful out there.

I spent a few hours with some colleagues in Panorama and York, it was between 20 and 23 h.
Panorama was surprisingly crowded with plenty of girls mostly chinese. Qualtiy was low to average, but there were a few potential ones there (a couple of Kyrgyz and maybe 1 or 2 chinese). A few a African girls but nothing to write home about. I was surprised by the number of girls, never seen so many of them in any previous visit (even at same time/day).

York, it was a nightmare to get there. Who said that that the works were half finished? He may have smoked some forbiden substance...
Quality was depressing to low, with a few girls that could be generously classified as average. The best girl was a n Ethipian girl, really beautiful but she was with one of my colleagues so I could not take her. I will need to wait until his infatuation is gone. I took some really glamorous pictures of her at the Christmas party (but I will not post them because they are private ones and there is no nudity involved :) )

I went back home empty handed as I was too tired to go to Seaview and not really in the mood,

Take care

i was in the radisson deira last night doing a bit of rare recon as my gf's away. kubu far too packed for me, couldn't get near bar, though a reasonable selection of cis and prc, couldn't spot any real stunners.

left and down the corridor to marbles. decent filipina band with three tasty singers though a bit soft rock when compared to seaview. the keyboard playing guy's singing was appalling, getting words wrong and out of tune - he should leave the singing to the girls. not being able to pronounce "dark sarcasm" in pink floyd's the wall was hilarious. overall pretty entertaining and a decent atmosphere in there.

the girls in the band did take requests, though sadly only for songs!

maybe 6 wgs in when i arrived about 11. two bleached blond cis who looked like they had a bit of mileage on the clock, one or two prc, one african and a couple of arabesque-looking girls. none stunning though a couple of decent bodies. a few more arived as the ight wore on, though nothing to write home about.

not after a night of mongering so sat near the stage, chatting to other civilians and the girls in the band between songs. they were happy to interact with the audience which made it a very comfortable atmosphere, despite the chorus line of wgs occupying the bar stools behind.

on way to bathroom (you have to go out of the bar for the gents, so run the gauntlet past the now growing chorus line every time) talked to one of the arab-looking girls.

very sexy slim body, but face was not pretty enough for my liking. she said she was iranian, which intrigued me as i have never had an iranian before.

thought i'd see what the going rate was and she opened with 1500 "and i will do everything with you until morning". i asked what everything included. "everything" she said. "what doesn't it include?" i countered. "nothing" she replied.

anyway i started laughing at her initial gambit so she asked how much i would pay. as i wasn't in the market for her i thought a "i won't pay more than 500" would see her off.

[quote=bpd81]about hotels i have no clue. be careful out there.[/quote]

then she asked me if i was staying in the hotel. when i told her where i lived she gave a big smile and said "good. much safer". i asked her what she meant and she said that she had heard stories of le raiding some hotels and taking away wgs and punters.

interestingly when she thought she might be coming to my place her price instantly dropped to 800. i was almost tempted when she dropped to 700 just before lights up at 2.30. but the lights confirmed that her face wasn't for me. she seemed great fun though, spoke good english and her body looked great in a tight black dress. it might have been a great night, but her looks were the deal-breaker i'm afraid.

i'm sure she would have come down to 500 if i'd pushed, as it was end of the night. but i made my excuses and left.

i will check with my prc network if hotel raids stories are true. hadn't heard about any before last night. bignaz's report said that this raid happened in early november, which curiously is after ramadan (when you need to be more discreet) and before current le purge which started at end of november.

when i have heard of similar occurences in the past either in cabs or hotels it is normally because a local who objects has seen you going into hotel room or cab and taken room number or cab number and phoned police.

once the police turn up the hotel staff have to tell them who is in that room and who else checked in with them.

eight years sounds very steep, people get less for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and murder here, and there have been no reports in the papers. bear in mind that though a lot of what le does here is hushed up, once it gets to court it is generally reported by the press. no saying it not true, just doesn't ring true with my experience.

be careful out there.

steamer33

[QUOTE=Bignaz]All 3 guys were in their own rooms, and only one of them had brought up this girl.
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There were no drugs, even no alcohol, yet the authorities have decided that this matter was serious enough to send ALL 3 of them away for 8 (YES EIGHT! ) years each. I shit you not.[/QUOTE]I have to go with Sporadic (and Cons68) on this.[list][*]No mention in the paper (usually fairly accurate about "getting the message out" on what is not tolerated (as in numerous drug case convictions for only miniscule amounts).[*]2 "innocent" guys convicted of what? Especially if they were in their own rooms (I'm assuming they all had their own rooms).[*]Original case, plus 2 appeals, all in 8 weeks, INCLUDING 1 week of Eid where everything shuts down? Pretty quick, even for dxb.[*]You say they are between 19 and 24, from wealthy families? Excuse the stereotyping, but just the type to mouth off to LE, thinking they are above the law...[/list]I'm guessing they were busted for not passing a drug test. However, the usual for that is 4 years.

I'm thinking there was something ELSE going on...

[quote=Sporadic]Classic shakedown, the prick.[/quote]Of course, it only takes one employee with a grudge to provide LE with a room number...

[QUOTE=WhySoSerious]Admittedly I did do it to a couple of locals who suspicously were setting up this fit CIS WG for an unnofficial gang bang with their mates back at their flat.[/QUOTE]And you knew this as fact how?

[QUOTE=Cons68]York, it was a nightmare to get there. Who said that that the works were half finished? [/QUOTE][b]York, Thursday, 22:30-1:00[/b]
Yes, they have "moved" the pedestrian crossings... Nice thing about this time of year, pleasant walk between Panarama and York - best to stay on that side of the road for easier York entrance.

Milling crowd waiting to buy tickets, I sidestepped and was waved upstairs. Pleasant for a Thursday night, crowded, but not too. Got a drink, and made a circuit. Several a-listers, including Miss Borg (resistance is futile), missing. In 1 way, happy with that as I have trouble saying no to her charms. Several other of the usual a-listers around. Talked to one, asked for a price quote. She started at 1500 (jokingly), dropping in 100 increments to the "actual" price of 1000. Miss Borg, yes; she, no, not from me, but she will score with someone. She then offered to take me to her place, no doubt for reduced rate/time, but passed, especially in today's "climate". With the reduced crowd, the a-listers I saw when I arrived were still there when I left.

For me, York has more "mass" then the 'Snake - bigger bar, more choice. 4 cookie cutter 7's, 3 very nicely attired. Homed in on 1, english a bit of a struggle, but, enough... Her price quote was 800 - dreaming (with me, anyway). She asked for a counter offer - 500. She asked for 6... I started to scan the crowd. She then said I should finish my drink and we'd go...

However, in the interim, Miss Cat had swept past. Which kind of threw me, as her office is Imperial. Miss Cookie making noises to go, but also caught some questions as to all night... Becoming slightly annoying, so figured I'd better pin things down. Leaned in, asked about menu. Glad I did. While nicely attired, that does come off, and the actual "meal" a bit thin - kind of like French cooking... Nice presentation, but SMALL servings.

Took off, looking for Miss Cat. Had to play some games over price, then she wanted to get a drink first (she had her ticket), and to go talk to her sister. Again becoming annoying, home alone looking better all the time. Told her I'd pass; she quickly hit on by 2 others - their price below her threshold. Two more tried; again, a no-go (400 for ST, maybe, but all night, that early... not going to happen with someone of her "status").

Miss Cookie stopped on her way out, giving me a last chance. I declined, she left with her 3 friends, I'm guessing the early departure due to risk of LE stops at closing. I had reconsidered, asked Cat if she wanted to come home with me. She gave me the "what a dumb question" look, "yes"; she forewent the drink, and off we went.

In the car, she 'fessed' up to her presence - her 'sister' had called her, told her I was at York, thus she came over to try her luck. I hadn't seen her for a couple of months, and had forgotten just how responsive and fun she is. To be clear, I'd specified 2 shots that night, plus a morning wakeup. She delivered the 1st, no problem, then a SHORT (5 minute) massage, then started on round 2. Perhaps she's forgotten MY age :), been going with too many young guys, but bless her heart, after some DILIGENT work, 2nd shot too. After 4, both of us dead tired.

[b]Summary[/b]
York usual. Mainly PRC, then African, with some non-descript CIS thrown in. No migrating herd of tcn's on the 'great circle' trail. Sound system total crap. A few stunners, but, for me, the attraction of York is it's 2nd tier of cute, and FUN, girls.