Taipei

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]totally ignored the post, dude has no idea what he is saying. My own grandmother would want more than 1K, haha so fat chance of getting a PRC girl. Thats even cheaper than Beijng or Shanghai. So much for getting us all excited.[/QUOTE]Ignore this post

If you were, looking for quaility or fresh pussy, mandrian communication bad.

Take walk! See what you can get, Maybe I was a bit of exaggerated, be ut, girls age from 25 90. That is right, 90 years old lady still works there. Lots MILF, BTW.

Hint:

Day time, near night market.

Nite time, intersec Kangding rd/ GueiLin Rd

Grandmas open 0. 6 k. If you were good 0. 5 k will do it.

[QUOTE=Big Brother X]
The situation there was even worse than I anticipated. At night, they have 2 cops cars circling the area with their lights on, and it makes it, at the very least, adventurous, and at the worst, extremely paranoia inducing. But, as with most of Taiwan policing, as long as they do their job that they were told to do, they will do little else. Thank God for the lazy Taiwan cops!

So I met up with a Mamasan, a fair bit before the actual triangle park. She took me on the most roundabout way to get to the house where the girls were. It actually wasnt that far from the park, but it was rather confusing. And the "alley" that I had to walk through to get to it, well it wasnt really an alley. I could barely fit through sideways!

Then, she did the call for the girls to get ready. I was expecting the regular look at the girls, but I was not given a choice. The girl was pretty good, looks wise, so I didn't mind. Name of "Yangmei". I would say late 20s/early 30s, nice tight body, and C breasts (Chinese C cup mind you). I asked what was up, and she responded that I needed to be a proven customer to be trusted with other, less experienced girls. They were afraid of the cops, for sure.

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Thanks for the great field report BBX, have not been able or needing to go to SC for a while since I got my freebie but nice to know I have alternatives. I have been getting SMS from my "regular" SC girl asking me when I will be coming to see her but have not had the time.
Will definately try a run some time but most likely during the day when the police are less visible.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]totally ignored the post, dude has no idea what he is saying. my own grandmother would want more than 1K, haha so fat chance of getting a PRC girl. Thats even cheaper than Beijng or Shanghai. So much for getting us all excited.[/QUOTE]

Nah, although 2K is usually the price quotes by anybody you would want to even shake hands with, 1K is doable with less bargaining than you need to buy a jin of bananas, although the 25-30 age range quotes is inaccurate.

0.5K? I am certain that you could get it though the psychotherapy to help you forget the experience and the medication to clear up whatever your dick takes home would be more than that.

I have more of an issue with the name "Peter Liker" than the posts as I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that English is not his first language by a long-shot.

Taipei is far more than 7k KTV girls and Ceasar's and there is a lot to be had for 1K-2K if you know where to look. Of course, you generally get what you pay for. Of course, as I have said before, the color of your skin, shape of your eyes and proficiency in the language are factors that are far more important than we talk about and on reports for really low prices it would be better to know what language was used or if the monger in question is a local, foreign resident or visitor.

So here goes some mad posting

- Staying in Taipei -

I've been reading through the various threads and have seen reports on how expensive Taipei can be in terms of everything: Lodging, Going out, Chasing tail, et. al

I thought I would break out what I thought about lodging costs in 2009

The Big Chains
Of course there are the international chains like the Westin. There is large local competition in Two Brothers, Howard Hotel. Expect to pay 200 USD and higher.

Local Chains and mid-size hotels.
Here you have various Taiwanese hotels that you have never heard of and perhaps some variety in the ChinaTrust family. At this price point you are still above 150 USD, and frankly the rooms are not anything to write home about.

The Boutiques
Exploding onto the scene in other parts of Asia (see Singapore), the boutique hotels have also come to Taipei. The Tango hotel. The Dandy. Ambiance Hotel. Smaller and cozier, the rooms are equal if not
better to the Big Chains. Most everything is new with glass door showers, perhaps heated toilet seats, flat screen TVs. On the downside, sometime rooms don't have windows. Expect to pay 100 - 150 USD.

The Short-Rests / Overnight
Can you say "Q-K"??? Ask your japanese friends what this means. Need a couple of hours? Expect to pay 1000 NT. Stay a whole night and you are back to the range of 100 - 150 USD. There are more advertised (read specialized - drive in and out) ones such as Wego and others like Lottery Hotel. You can't go anywhere in the LIn Sen N. road area without stumbling around them. With promotions, its even possible to get prices in the 2500 NT range.

The Saunas
Well if you don't mind sleeping in a large room in a Lazy Boy type of seat this is by far your cheapest option. And you can get your service included if you go for the all-inclusive option. Jin Hua and Asia world are often mentioned in this category. Overnight for about 1000 NT

By all means this is not an all inclusive list, but I think it lists many of the options for those visiting Taipei on this forum

Scooters phone numbers

Let's be entirely clear here. Playing around in Taiwan when you speak the local language versus when you don't are two completely different experiences. And playing around is much more satisfying and safer when you are with a local.

The phone numbers that you find on scooters are meant for locals. Don't try without speaking the language. Like in many other countries, the underworld is running this operation. I would NOT recommend going to an incall without an experienced local. Even with a local its a risk as you are going to meeting the gangsters (doorman, muscle) face to face. Outcalls are a safer choice, but the feel out dance to meet at a rest hotel can be tiresome. You'll need a local phone number to pursue this option. Personally, I think this option is better once you have found a provider that works for you. As such its not for everyone as YMMV greatly the first couple of times.

Rag.

From your provider are you still seeing prices in the 4-5k range instead of the 6k range for local Taiwanese girls?

ABC BOY you might be able to enlight me; after browsing the forum, I'm still wondering what's the difference between KTV and uniform shop?

Does the girls in Uniform shop wear special clothing (something like cosplay)?

I have been to KTV on linsen bei road but I would like to try something more fun.

If uniform shop isn't a place where girls wear cosplay (manga style), could any of you recommend such place in Taipei?

Thx

Madri

Hey guys,

I know my around TPE no problem but our warehouse just moved to Banciao.

Anyone know where you can get a regular massage during office hours. Cleaniness is pretty high on the list. Sometimes just need an hour lunch to work it out a bit before heading back in.

W.

a post about a reputed Japanese porn star on a trip to TP.

Got a call from my regular provider telling me a Jap porn movie actress was available and curiousity demanded I try. Cost was 6K which is hardly more than my normal costs for Taiwan chicks so I thought why the hell not.

Anyways get a room and the girl shows up. Cute face, looks late 20s but slightly round (i.e. chubby) and smallish tits. English is atroucious and Chinese is non -existant. Luckily I can understand a lot of Japanese so we get by doing the one word conversation for a while. Definately has a good attitude and pretty friendly. We shower and we start getting into it. She is pretty enthusiastic and spent a lot of time licking and touching but gave me a CBJ. Huh? Every girl in TP gives BBBJ and I know there are places in Tokyo that specialize in BBBJ but whatever.

She climbs on and starts to ride me hard. Give her points for being aggressive and she starts to moan loudly. I am not sure if its real or if its the "polite" stuff but who really cares. We switch positions and she really starts to scream now. Have to admit it is pretty sexy since usually the Taiwan girls are very quiet and shy. She could wake the dead.

We finish with both us trying to outdo each other and seeing how much we can embarass the staff with our vocal skills. We clean up and she gives me a big hug when she leaves.

Not a bad experience but not much better than many girls I am seeing regularly and of course nothing compared to freebies. Seems many Japanese girls are coming over here to play with the economy so bad over there. I satisfied my curiosity more than had a memorable fuck.

Happy hunting all my brothers.

[QUOTE=Pete Liker]Who just new in Taipei.

Should go to Longshan Temple station, 1 K only makes you happy day.

Walk around, you can find some China dolls. Age 25 30.[/QUOTE]I agreed that there are streetwalkers around the night market area. I got many looks from them. I guess they can spot the mongers because the eye contact. They looked okay, but I am American and not so picky. I didn't try to pick one up because my GF was with me. Next time, I'm in Taipei. Does anyone know of short time hotels near by Longshan?

Peace, Onilove96

[QUOTE=Madrilala]ABC BOY you might be able to enlight me; after browsing the forum, I'm still wondering what's the difference between KTV and uniform shop?

Does the girls in Uniform shop wear special clothing (something like cosplay)?

I have been to KTV on linsen bei road but I would like to try something more fun.

If uniform shop isn't a place where girls wear cosplay (manga style), could any of you recommend such place in Taipei?

Thx

Madri[/QUOTE]

KTV - a more general term for high class girl mongering
Uniform Shop - a specific type of high class girl mongering

KTVs typically include these types:

1) Uniform Shop - a high class "KTV" establishment that has all the girls wearing "uniforms" (varies depending on which establishment you visit.) Obviously the clothes are design to make them sexy and easy to play with and undress. For this establishment you can "order" the girls on an hour to hour basis to play and have fun in the KTV room. You sing, play games, drink alcohol, etc. Also in uniform shops the girls will perform a "dance" at every 30 minutes to one hour (depending on establishment), pretty much a strip tease and take off their clothes for you to touch, and some places they don't wear the clothes back.

On take out order: for Uniform Shops you can order take out at minimum 4-hour increments (you only get 3 hours time, one hour house fee) + extra service fee (at $6000-8000 dollars depending on your VIP status.)

2) Dress Shop - this is a more higher scale KTV shop. The girls are higher quality on average: college girls, part-time models, etc. They wear their own clothes. In this establishment you don't get to pick girls, they just come in two at a time. They will automatically leave in 15 minutes unless you call the manager and request to "keep them" - but here's the catch - for this establishment you have to BUY THEIR ENTIRE DAY - $25000 - $30000 (plus extra service.) You can decide to stay and have fun, or take her back to your place or out to have fun, whatever. The point is she's your slave for the day you purchased her.

There are other types but generally they are dying so no point learning them, Uniform Shop and Dress shop are alive and well.

I'm not in Taipei anymore and too bad this time I couldn't get it going with anyone, but next time let's organize a big trip and have fun in Uniform shop together.

Thx ABC Boy, it's all clear now.

I was hoping that by "uniform" that would be something more fun like what you can find in Tokyo.

I will be in Taipei early of June, we can try to set-up something.

Madri

Hey guys,

I've been to Taipei several times now, most of the time calling girls in. However, I haven't figured out something: How exactly do you "take home" WG-girls in a bar?

To elaborate: During an earlier visit I met two girls in the Hyatt bar who actually waived at me to come over to them. One of them was really drunk and started to dance and kiss me early on. Since I am a pretty bad dancer that usually never happens in that order though. Her friend was doing the same with another foreigner. It turned out she was over 30 and was a "single mum" with two kids, but I was alright with that. As time passed I was pretty sure she would go to my room with me, but as the place closed down she headed for the taxi telling me that she needed to go home but "she would want to fuck me if she could". I called her about 20mins later, assuming she was on route to her children now, but instead she seemed to be in some other bar and male voices were around. She said she was just outside before her place. She kept sending SMS the next day, asking me to join her at a distant bar for a drink, but when she refused meeting for dinner or close to Hyatt I gave up and did no longer think about her.

The last trip however I went to Barcode and later that night spotted two girls, both dressed very hot, and one guy close to my position. The guy vanished and I approached them. Quickly a good conversation developed with one of the two girls and the other left as well. She said to me she wanted to visit the Netherlands, she was working as an english teacher, made compliments and we did some basic guessing and drinking games which resulted in the two of us kissing. I thought I was just good at pick-up until that other girl came and told her they had to go in five minutes. We kissed some more until that guy showed up. She claimed it was her brother and she really had to go. We said to add each other on facebook and to meet for some sightseeing the other day, so I got her phone number and email. After a last kiss she was gone.

Finally I realized both would have been working girls. But what I don't get is how they work. Honestly, if it had cost me couple hundred USD to take the latter girl with me for an overnight stay, I might have paid. But no one approached me in either case and of course I can't imagine asking the girl out right if she was open for P4P.

Am I right and these are working girls? Then what do you have to do?

Hi all,

I am living in TP for nearly a year now. So far I tried Saunas, barber shops (in Taoyuan and Kaohsiung) and also the phone numbers from the newspaper.

I speak Chinese but am a foreigner.

The mentioned 1k experience near Longshan is true. OK when I was in, the mamasan wanted 1k for the girl and 0. 5k for the room. Girl looked like 30 was from the mainland and in a pretty hurry, gave me her mobile number and said we could meet next time somewhere else (there was no bed only a sofa in a small room).

Next time we met we had a nice chat afterwards, she is actually 34 and married to a Taiwanese (so she can stay here).

Had also some bad experiences.

Dear Rag: could you please also give me your provider's number?

Thanks

Hi all,

I am living in TP for nearly a year now. So far I tried Saunas, barber shops (in Taoyuan and Kaohsiung) and also the phone numbers from the newspaper.

I speak Chinese but am a foreigner.

The mentioned 1k experience near Longshan is true. OK when I was in, the mamasan wanted 1k for the girl and 0. 5k for the room. Girl looked like 30 was from the mainland and in a pretty hurry, gave me her mobile number and said we could meet next time somewhere else (there was no bed only a sofa in a small room).

Next time we met we had a nice chat afterwards, she is actually 34 and married to a Taiwanese (so she can stay here).

Had also some bad experiences.

Dear Rag: could you please also give me your provider's number?

Thanks

Hey guys

Recently got transfered over here to Taipei and wanted to experiement. Haven't been anyplace yet but I've read enough to know where to go and what to do.

I do need some advice; schedule only permits early morning mongering, stuff like 7-9am. I'm near the center of the city, walking distance to the subway (closest stop is the memorial center which is like 2 mins away). I'd like to try these famous BBS that's been talked about but are they open that early? I'll also drop by cesears too, that's always open right? I am an ABC, I speak mandarine but don't know enough vocab to pass for a local, so a foreigner friendly place would kick ass. Also, any unknownplaces and stuff like that, I'm totally willing to TOFTT.

[QUOTE=David Mr]
The mentioned 1k experience near Longshan is true. OK when I was in, the mamasan wanted 1k for the girl and 0. 5k for the room. Girl looked like 30 was from the mainland and in a pretty hurry, gave me her mobile number and said we could meet next time somewhere else (there was no bed only a sofa in a small room).

Dear Rag: could you please also give me your provider's number?
[/QUOTE]

Ok I stand corrected, nice digging to all the brothers out there.

Been doing a lot less mongering since I got my freebie so its good that ppl seem to be finding alternatives.

I can give you the number, just PM me and i will give it to you.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Billy Tang]I'd like to try these famous BBS that's been talked about but are they open that early? I'll also drop by cesears too, that's always open right? I am an ABC, I speak mandarine but don't know enough vocab to pass for a local, so a foreigner friendly place would kick ass. [/QUOTE]

The BBS here are generally open 24-7, same with Ceasers. I imagine you can get by with limited vocab in the BBS and in Ceasers you will have no problem, hell last time I was there there was a table with 4 white guys who didnt even speak English who were coming downstairs after doing the "happy".

Good luck.

[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Hey guys,

Finally I realized both would have been working girls. But what I don't get is how they work. Honestly, if it had cost me couple hundred USD to take the latter girl with me for an overnight stay, I might have paid. But no one approached me in either case and of course I can't imagine asking the girl out right if she was open for P4P.

Am I right and these are working girls? Then what do you have to do?[/QUOTE]

Ah, a rookie at the bars, let me help.

When you see hot girls at the bar that are aggressive, that means 90% of the times they are working girls, and they are usually escorted by their pimps. In fear of cops they are not allowed to ask you to them take home/back to your room, but they will do all the gestures to suggest that (kissing, chatting, etc.) You have to say the magic word: "let's go back to my place and I'll make it worth your while" - she will respond "how so" and then you should say "will 3K be enough?" and she will reply either "fuck yeah" or if she's a real pro "haha, good one, 6K-10K"

Then you go out, and the pimp comes, and you pay the pimp and the pimp smiles at you and says "have a good time"

Warning: do NOT go to the girl's place or when the girl has a "suggestion hotel" do NOT go. That is usually a trap - the pimp or someone else will be there ahead of the time and claim to be her husband or boyfriend and demand that you pay "damage fees" that ranges from 10k to 30K.

I don't do bar anymore due to my shot up liver from too many alcohol in my college days.. hahaha, but hope you have fun.

[QUOTE=David Mr]Hi all,

I am living in TP for nearly a year now. So far I tried Saunas, barber shops (in Taoyuan and Kaohsiung) and also the phone numbers from the newspaper.

I speak Chinese but am a foreigner.

The mentioned 1k experience near Longshan is true. OK when I was in, the mamasan wanted 1k for the girl and 0. 5k for the room. Girl looked like 30 was from the mainland and in a pretty hurry, gave me her mobile number and said we could meet next time somewhere else (there was no bed only a sofa in a small room).

Next time we met we had a nice chat afterwards, she is actually 34 and married to a Taiwanese (so she can stay here).

Had also some bad experiences.

Dear Rag: could you please also give me your provider's number?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Good damn, 1K for a quickie.

Makes it harder and harder for me to justify my 17K adventure at Uniform Shops. LOL

Back to Taipei again this week. Visited the old "Jin Hwa SPA" on Sunday evening, which changes it's name again. Didn't bother to remember the new name, as it might be different again few months down the road. Noticed that the English name printed on credit card charge slip is still "Wensa Sauna Rest". So, it is the same owner after all the name changes.

Routine remaining the same. Get the number tag, leave your shoes with the shoe shine boys, strip naked & leave clothes in the locker. Proceed to the pools (hot, cold & freezing cold), sauna & steam room area. Once done with that, get dress & go to the common area for movies, sleeping room or the main hall. Hang around the sitting area, and Mamasan will approach you if "full-package" is available (when it is safe to do so). Price is NT4200 inclusive of the basic services/facilities mentioned above.

Did gal # 5 this time. Big pair of boobs & good attitude. Her massage is considered quite good, followed by cat bath, AR & the deed. Was tired after 4 1/2 hours flight, so let her ride for 15 minutes before releasing my load. She was laughing & blaming me being lazy to let her do all the works. Held my hand & walked me out to the door leading to common area. Kissed my lips before letting me go.

Had my late dinner by mid-night & left at 2am. Happy with the service indeed.

Advise to fellow mongers. Try not putting high hope when visiting this outlet. If no Mamasan (usually older ladies but not those young nice looking beauticians) approaching you after sitting around common area longer than 1/2 hour, then full-package is not available due to high-risk on that day. Just enjoy the movies (2 rooms. One showing porn & the other one showing Hollywood movies), eat some food (chargeable), take a nap, or even go back to the pool area.

Less expectation, less dissapointment, indeed.

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Good damn, 1K for a quickie.

Makes it harder and harder for me to justify my 17K adventure at Uniform Shops. LOL[/QUOTE]

Even at 3K to 5K per pop i find Uniform shops outrageous, would rather spend the money to get a nice motel room, rent the outfits and then use the rest of the time f*ucking my freebie to death.

has anyone been to both SC and this new area of Longshan? How do they compare? field reports brothers, let get to it ;-)

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42] has anyone been to both SC and this new area of Longshan? How do they compare? field reports brothers, let get to it ;-)[/QUOTE]

I don't know if it's a 'new area' but I have been to both and they are fairly comparable in terms of what you get and what you pay.

The first time that I decided to return to Longshan a while back, I got lucky. I paid 300 to chat x 2 girls, 300 to the house and negotiated another 400 for the deed (so the working girl walked off with 700). However, this is rare.

Comparing just these two areas:

1,000 at LS-older (40+ women, quickie in pretty dirty room near Longshan. Don't take your shoes off and try not to look that close at her.
1,500 at SC-formerly the best buy in town in my opinion.
1,500 at LS-same conditions as SC but you have to bargain to get this price and the girls are older. I used to feel better about LS because I thought pimps got all the money at SC until I saw the pimps at LS.
2,000 at LS-opening price for a lot of the better girls and, honestly, some of them are probably worth it.
3k+ and up-I would rather get a room and incall.

A real difference is that girls at LS openly give you their number, even if you don't ask for it whereas I have but one number from SC.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]The BBS here are generally open 24-7, same with Ceasers. I imagine you can get by with limited vocab in the BBS and in Ceasers you will have no problem, hell last time I was there there was a table with 4 white guys who didnt even speak English who were coming downstairs after doing the "happy".

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Hit up Ceasers last morning. You're right, very accomodating, though they weren't servicing that morning for some odd reason, I couldn't get the gist of it. I'll try again next time.

Haven't seen the BBS around though. I mean, tons of them all over the place but none open so I assume they're not the one's I'm hunting for. Am I just blind or is there certain places I should be going?

Yes, SC is definitely open but I must say very very dead.

I remember going before with more than 5 places to check under the bridge, and not to mention the ones at the triangle park.

I went to check out the place just Monday night at around 8pm, and yes there were police just below the bridge and scooters going in and out of the alleys. Quite intimidating.

Only one place was open. If facing river under the bridge, it's the first one on the right at the corner (this is where the touts are hanging out usually for this shack) 2 girls, both was ok, one was kind of bug eyed but still looked tasty enough (I have some low standards when it comes to mongering).

I didn't end up staying because I wanted more choices but there was none open. 4 other people was waiting in the alleys for a shack to open. No luck.

Then went to LS to look at the more mature delights but didn't see a stunner for the night.

Where is this new area being discussed?

I only know of 3 areas: (excuse my bad road name spelling)

1. Gui ling x Kong ding Road intersection (northwest corner, can't miss them, the best in the LS area that I know of: 1. 2k-1. 5k last time I was qouted? )

2. Walk south towards LS direction on Kong ding road, there will be older ladies 40-60 quoting from 1-1. 2k I got. 9k once.

(on Kong ding road between Gui ling and Goung Zhou road, just off the corner on location 1)

3. (this one I'm sorry if directions are wrong)

Keep going on Kong Ding until He Ping West Road, and turn right (west) and walk a little bit, keep an eye for a right turn where there will be a couple older ladies waiting there, aged 40. 60, I think quote is around 1k or lower (lower quality) once I got one for 600NTD! (. Yes she was scary now that I think about it)

*if you've reached the station plaza, you've passed it, or I am wrong in my directions.

So what I'm curious is. Where else do they hang out?

Very curious to this potential "new" area, hoping for more directions then just "night market" area.

Hope to hear more good things! Been not getting paid and tied up with girlfriend. Lack of exploring for me.

[QUOTE=Happytimes]Where else do they hang out?
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I think that you have found all of the places. I went last night to find the "new place(s)" but didn't see anything that differs from what you saw or what I reported a few months ago ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=854367&postcount=1894[/url]).

I spent a few moments reading back a few pages to see who started the 'new place(s)' discussion and it appears to be new guys with almost no posts, including one who claimed to find 20-30 year old beauties in this new place for 1K/pop. I could certainly be wrong but, unless somebody has other info, I call BS.

What I saw was the same as what Happytimes reported other than instead of following his directions for Number Three, simply proceed to Huasi between Guangzhou and Heping-it's what he was finding but far easier. The other possibility is rouge streetwalkers roaming the areas but that is more miss than hit.

[QUOTE=Exile]I think that you have found all of the places. I went last night to find the "new place(s)" but didn't see anything that differs from what you saw or what I reported a few months ago ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=854367&postcount=1894[/url]).

I spent a few moments reading back a few pages to see who started the 'new place(s)' discussion and it appears to be new guys with almost no posts, including one who claimed to find 20-30 year old beauties in this new place for 1K/pop. I could certainly be wrong but, unless somebody has other info, I call BS.

What I saw was the same as what Happytimes reported other than instead of following his directions for Number Three, simply proceed to Huasi between Guangzhou and Heping-it's what he was finding but far easier. The other possibility is rouge streetwalkers roaming the areas but that is more miss than hit.[/QUOTE]

Definitely BS. First off 1K for 20-30s girlz? No working person is stupid enough to charge that low. For 50-70s I agree, but not 20-30s.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Definitely BS. First off 1K for 20-30s girlz? No working person is stupid enough to charge that low. For 50-70s I agree, but not 20-30s.[/QUOTE]

Had a friend of a friend that was just there and said all the WG were older and had lots of makeup and large folds of fat near their midsection. If he found a 20~30 then more power to him. I doubt they are there on a regular basis.

If it sound too good to be true, then it probably is.

While I'm in Taiwan, I often get messages at skype from young girls claiming to be students, who need to earn some extra money. The conversation follows always more or less the same rules. First they ask if you are busy of work, then if you want to relax a bit. Then they offer to make a date with you for 3000-4000 NT for 2-3hrs with full service.

Ask me where I live and want to know my name and my mobile number so they can call me.

Sometimes they tell me that I should wire money to their bank account before we meet, because they fear the police will catch them if I pay them directly. Of course I will never do that, wire money to someone I have not even met yet.

Normally it ends at latest when they try to call me, because the girls are so local and not used to talk to a foreigner so they don't understand my Chinese. LOL

I also think that the person at skype are not the hooker herself, but only a contact, some kind of mamasan.

Has anybody met such a girl yet and can share his experiences here?

[QUOTE=Long76]Sometimes they tell me that I should wire money to their bank account before we meet, because they fear the police will catch them if I pay them directly. Of course I will never do that, wire money to someone I have not even met yet.
[/QUOTE]

PM me and I will send you bank info to wire directly to my account. I promise to send Rag right over.

[QUOTE=Exile]PM me and I will send you bank info to wire directly to my account. I promise to send Rag right over.[/QUOTE]

haha, thanks for offering to be my agent. But I already have a mamasan and she is training me still (and boy is she EVER...) and she wont let me go out for any less than 15K. ;-)

[QUOTE=Long76]While I'm in Taiwan, I often get messages at skype from young girls claiming to be students, who need to earn some extra money. The conversation follows always more or less the same rules. First they ask if you are busy of work, then if you want to relax a bit. Then they offer to make a date with you for 3000-4000 NT for 2-3hrs with full service.

Ask me where I live and want to know my name and my mobile number so they can call me.

Sometimes they tell me that I should wire money to their bank account before we meet, because they fear the police will catch them if I pay them directly. Of course I will never do that, wire money to someone I have not even met yet.

Normally it ends at latest when they try to call me, because the girls are so local and not used to talk to a foreigner so they don't understand my Chinese. LOL

I also think that the person at skype are not the hooker herself, but only a contact, some kind of mamasan.

Has anybody met such a girl yet and can share his experiences here?[/QUOTE]Long 76

Pm me and I will give you instructions to wire the funds into my account. I will guarantee that you will get the best service in town. BTW are you interested in buying a bridge in the Sahara Desert. Best deal in town. You very own bridge in prime real estate in the Sahara. You will be the envy of all you colleagues. I would sell you the London Bridge but I really do not want to rip you off. The structure is quite old and in need of a lot of repairs.

[QUOTE=Long76]Then they offer to make a date with you for 3000-4000 NT for 2-3hrs with full service. Ask me where I live and want to know my name and my mobile number so they can call me. Sometimes they tell me that I should wire money to their bank account before we meet ...

Has anybody met such a girl yet and can share his experiences here?[/QUOTE]

To give you a serious answer, this is a long-standing and well established scam in Taiwan. It is likely run by the local-style Yakuza out of some boiler room. The person you 'spoke' to wasn't a mamasan but a low-level mafia operative.

The scam operation approaches people on Skype (apparently) and also advertises all over the web in all sorts of configurations. They use all sorts of stock photos, fake personas and e-mail addresses. You can find old posts relating to this scam here on ISG. The scam has been around literally for a decade so you could find stuff even that far back.

In short, don't entertain them ... ever.

[QUOTE=Long76]While I'm in Taiwan, I often get messages at skype from young girls claiming to be students, who need to earn some extra money. The conversation follows always more or less the same rules. First they ask if you are busy of work, then if you want to relax a bit. Then they offer to make a date with you for 3000-4000 NT for 2-3hrs with full service.

Ask me where I live and want to know my name and my mobile number so they can call me.

Sometimes they tell me that I should wire money to their bank account before we meet, because they fear the police will catch them if I pay them directly. Of course I will never do that, wire money to someone I have not even met yet.

Normally it ends at latest when they try to call me, because the girls are so local and not used to talk to a foreigner so they don't understand my Chinese. LOL

I also think that the person at skype are not the hooker herself, but only a contact, some kind of mamasan.

Has anybody met such a girl yet and can share his experiences here?[/QUOTE]

It's a known scam (especially wire money into the bank account part), please do not fall for it.

Just give me 30K and I'll take you to up scale KTV with model quality girls.

Now I know why I hate the DPP. One of their idiot legislator is proposing an amendment to the prostitution law. Currently the law punishes the prostitute but not the client. The amendment actually reverses it to punish the client and not the prostitute!!! Citing reason that prostitutes are "minority that needs protection" while the clients are the exploiters. Gosh.

If the law is passed, the client will have to pay from a fine in the range of $5,000 NT to $50,000 NT and attend mandatory session on "sensitivity to the difference of gender"

What a joke!

[QUOTE=Houziwang]To give you a serious answer, this is a long-standing and well established scam in Taiwan. It is likely run by the local-style Yakuza out of some boiler room. The person you 'spoke' to wasn't a mamasan but a low-level mafia operative.[/QUOTE]And most likely they operate out of China, so you can't catch them. I get these once in a while as well, and judging from their accents, these girls are definitely mainlanders. When someone mentions ATMs, you know it's a scam. Afterall, this is a cash only business (aside from the saunas in Macau).

Thank you guys for your replies.

Of course I will not be such an idiot to wire money to a unknown person. I was just curious, what is behind all this, because it is quite obvious, that there is an organization behind it and not some schoolgirls, who wants to earn some cash. If I'm looking for a shag, I go to the clubs (Luxy, Primo, Room 18. Very hot chicks there! And invest a bit money maybe in a drink. If I'm desperate I go to Carnegies (hahaha) and if I would get even more desparate I would rather considder going to Longshan (a quotation from an old friend: my cock has no eyes) than invest any money into the skype thing.

Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]If the law is passed, the client will have to pay from a fine in the range of $5,000 NT to $50,000 NT and attend mandatory session on "sensitivity to the difference of gender"
[/QUOTE]

Yep, I saw that though also heard that the compromise may be criminalizing it on both ends.

Does anybody have any info on either Zhonghe or Banqiao? I am in both areas more and more for business and although both areas feel that they should have a ton of action, I haven't had enough time to explore.

If anybody has even a remote lead that I could check out, I would really appreciate it and report back here my findings.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]When you see hot girls at the bar that are aggressive, that means 90% of the times they are working girls, and they are usually escorted by their pimps. In fear of cops they are not allowed to ask you to them take home/back to your room, but they will do all the gestures to suggest that (kissing, chatting, etc.) You have to say the magic word: "let's go back to my place and I'll make it worth your while" - she will respond "how so" and then you should say "will 3K be enough?" and she will reply either "fuck yeah" or if she's a real pro "haha, good one, 6K-10K".[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up, i just have to ask straight out then. but by operating that way, how many customers do they do per night...?

Also: What is a reasonable price for a over night stay?

The police is still cleaning up SanChong *****house area. Only two or three (that I know of) are still open. Last night, I brought 2 friends to a Tofu House in SanChong. More than 10 good quality girls could be chosen, but the rooms' condition was so bad. And 15 min for NT1500 is really "in a hurry". One of my friend paid NT3000 total for extra time. I didn't do it last night. Too old for a 15min quick action. This house is the best in that area. However, the female pimp told me that she got another place is NT2200 for 30 min and the rooms are much better. I hope the quality of the girls are the same. I'll check it out next time. This provider got the best quality in this "Tofu House by the river" area. In other *****houses, you are lucky to find one girl of them is fuckable (in my picky opinion).
I like to cruise in KangDing Rd. area. You don't spent anything if nothing you like. Most of them are older (40+) women who are no longer can work in *****house, but you may find some late 20's or early 30's at the corner of KangDing Rd + GuiLin Rd before 12am. After midnight, only old ladies avaliable. Never seen any teen there. They never ask more than NT1500. I've never done those 40+, although she asked NT1000.
I like to choose the girl outside the "house". I don't like C.O.D. to your room because you are not really selecting anything, just do "reject or accept". Inside the *****house, you often choose a girl who is not really your type. You make the decision under pimp's pressure.

Guys:

Some of you may remember my posts a few months ago regarding the benefits of finding a long term mistress as opposed to engaging in "transactional" relationships in uniform shops, KTVs, SC and other "services"

For about 2 months now, I have been seeing a beautiful Taipei girl that I met at one of the high end KTVs. You know, one of those places that is often mentioned in the weekly social tabloids?

Anyhow, my new friend is 175 and in her mid twenties. She stays with me at the Far Eastern every time I am in taipei (which is about 3-4 times a month) and in return I occasionally buy her expensive gifts. Sure the overall cost may be more or less the same, but it just feels better than forking out 3-10K everytime you feel the urge. Plus, she never calls me unless I call her first, ie I think we know each others limits for now.

[QUOTE=Hch207]Guys:

Some of you may remember my posts a few months ago regarding the benefits of finding a long term mistress as opposed to engaging in "transactional" relationships in uniform shops, KTVs, SC and other "services"

For about 2 months now, I have been seeing a beautiful Taipei girl that I met at one of the high end KTVs. You know, one of those places that is often mentioned in the weekly social tabloids?

Anyhow, my new friend is 175 and in her mid twenties. She stays with me at the Far Eastern every time I am in taipei (which is about 3-4 times a month) and in return I occasionally buy her expensive gifts. Sure the overall cost may be more or less the same, but it just feels better than forking out 3-10K everytime you feel the urge. Plus, she never calls me unless I call her first, ie I think we know each others limits for now.[/QUOTE]

Sweet deal.

My freebie is a 30 Y.O. lawyer now working in real estate. 170 with large C cups, a super wet pussy and she like to eat me. AND I dont have to buy her expensive gifts. God I think I am lucky

Which explains my lack of posting as of late ;-)

I went to Tokyo Sauna Sunday afternoon. It is located one block east of Linsen on Minsheng. Two blocks east of the Shuanglian metro station. Service was good. Massage girl was decent looking around 30 years old. She gave a prostrate massage if you are in to it. In the restaurant they gave me a free plate of fruit I guess because I was the only gweilo. They asked me to tell my friends about Tokyo so I am returning the favor.

Also tried the Star of Light Massage place even though I knew it was veggie. The massage girls are tremendously good looking and massage well. There is no interaction between the massage girl and client. It is on Changchun about 1/2 block east of Linsen.

You see some great looking women walking around the Linsen area which I guess is known as the Combat Zone. Some touts offered me very young girls for $5000. You get yourself a room and they call the girl. They promise a very young girl.

Guys - thought you might get a kick out of this. You get paid to receive a handjob on your next business trip to Shanghai:

[url]http://slamxhype.com/blogs/shanghai-that-extra-mile/[/url]

[QUOTE=Exile]Does anybody have any info on either Zhonghe or Banqiao? I am in both areas more and more for business and although both areas feel that they should have a ton of action, I haven't had enough time to explore.

If anybody has even a remote lead that I could check out, I would really appreciate it and report back here my findings.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would also like to know if there is any fun in these areas. As I live in the area and would be alot more convenient as compared to making a trip to Longshan/Sanchong. (Also so that I could do it on the way home as opposed to making an extra trip and risking the lady finding out -.-")

I only know of momo-teas in the areas behind where the old Banciao station. But I was hoping for maybe quick fixes or good providers. I like streetwalkers as I can choose before committing to anything. Also I find the raunchiness adds to the fun.
As I don't have 30k to dish out like ABC does (oh man I'm envious).

Hope someone can shine some light on these areas.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Big Boss Man]Also tried the Star of Light Massage place even though I knew it was veggie. The massage girls are tremendously good looking and massage well. There is no interaction between the massage girl and client. It is on Changchun about 1/2 block east of Linsen.[/QUOTE]I also went to Shinning Star last week. I agree that the massage girls there are attractive. A 1 hour and 30 minute massage is 1, 800NT. It's definitely a veggie place. My massage girl didn't go anywhere near junior.

Here is the website for anyone interested. (Chinese)

[url]http://www.shining-star.com.tw[/url]

I can recommend this hotel. Expedia has a deal for eighty dollars and you get an upgrade to a deluxe room. The deluxe room has no common walls which I like. For the $80 you get a decent sized room, nice shower and jacuzzi tub, movies including porn, internet and breakfast buffet. It is also guest friendly. The downside is that it is not really near anything. However it is in the middle of everywhere you might want to go so taxis run $2 to $3 a trip. It is a business man's hotel so you see many working girls on the elevators. It also caters to tour groups. There is no pool or gym so probably better for only a short stay. I was there three nights.

[QUOTE=Wowbaby]I also went to Shinning Star last week. I agree that the massage girls there are attractive. A 1 hour and 30 minute massage is 1, 800NT. It's definitely a veggie place. My massage girl didn't go anywhere near junior.

Here is the website for anyone interested. (Chinese)

[url]http://www.shining-star.com.tw[/url][/QUOTE]It looks like nice place and the girls are attractive which I can see from website. I wonder Is there any extra service like HJ /BJ ?

Hi there,

Is there any extra service like HJ/BJ?

[QUOTE=Wowbaby]I also went to Shinning Star last week. I agree that the massage girls there are attractive. A 1 hour and 30 minute massage is 1, 800NT. It's definitely a veggie place. My massage girl didn't go anywhere near junior.

Here is the website for anyone interested. (Chinese)

[url]http://www.shining-star.com.tw[/url][/QUOTE]Is there any special service ?

[QUOTE=Casparza]Is there any special service ?[/QUOTE]

Veggie means "NO". You get a massage and thats it.

The outcall services I thought were great. The girls are six or sevens but they seem to enjoy sex. They all punch a 40 minute alarm clock into their phone. I typically did not pay upfront but left the money on a counter for them to see so I guess it is the same thing. All the girls seemed willing to do BBFS so you have to take charge if you want a condom.

Just call any of the numbers in the Taiwan Times. I think all the services are linked since the girls all have the same routine. There may be payoff to calling the same one in improving the quality of the girls. I used this service four times in my three day stay. If you do not ask for special massage the girl will not provide FS but will give an excellent massage.

Hi guys,

I've been reading the forums for many months now and at last have something to contribute. I travel to Taipei for business regularly (I've been here 3 times in the last 5 months) and last year I ventured into the mongering scene. I'm leaving today and thought I'd give you all some updates with what I've found over the past week-- a lot of this is consistent with what has already been said in recent reports.

A quick background: I’m a middle-aged Caucasian who speaks very little Mandarin. Since I come here on business, I'm usually able to stay at the Grand Hyatt near Tapei 101. I’m busy most of the days but have time at night when I’m not at business dinners.

(1) Outcall.- Yuki's

I'm becoming a regular with Yuki, she recognizes my voice and is now sending me the provider I ask for consistently. As stated in other posts, the outcall phone numbers are posted in the back pages of the English language newspapers: The Taipei Times or the China Post. The best place to get a copy is one of the 7-Elevens around every corner. The phone numbers are toward the back at the paper in the classifieds. There are usually 6-8 different phone numbers, all of which offer call out "Special Massage" or something similar.

When you call, you just need to tell them that you would like a "Girl" or an "Escort" and mention that you want FS. There are no pretenses here, so don’t be too worried. I think the only concern is that you may be LE, which I don’t think is a big concern if you are speaking good English. I’ve found they will never quote you a rate immediately, but ask you what you think the rate should be. The going rate is always NT3000 for basic FS with a typically non-Chinese provider. You may need to go up a little if you want something special but I don’t think you should ever pay more than NT4000. They will ask for your name, hotel, and room number. You will need to provide a real name since they will check this at the front desk. Try to be as specific as you can with the type of girl you want, but don’t be surprised if any adjective you give them is stretched: for example "young" can mean mid-30’s. The person on the phone will have very little information about what the girl will be willing to do or not, so this will be hit and miss.

I’ve heard comments in the forum that providers are being turned away at some hotels, particularly the Sheraton. I’ve never had any problem at the Hyatt. If they arrive late (after 11pm I think), the front desk will call and ask if it ok to send up your "guest". Nothing beats great hotel service.

The girl will typically arrive in 20-30 min. When she arrives you have the option to send her back. Although not absolutely necessary, I’d suggest giving a rejected provider a small tip to cover transportation (maybe I’m just a softie). After acceptance, she will make a call to confirm and will immediately request that you pay up-front. I suggest that if you are dealing with someone new, tell them that you will pay half up front and half at the end. This will require a phone call back to Yuki, but if you are firm they will agree.

As other’s have stated, the service can be inconsistent. The girls are typically 6-8, and appear to be in their early to mid-30’s, but this can vary. Most of them speak enough broken English to be sufficient (how much do you need? ). Typical service is covered FS and BBBJ, but don’t expect a real GFE from most providers. Most providers frown upon DFK and some can be very mechanical. I believe most will accept DATY but this is something that I’ve steered clear from myself due to concerns with STDs. As noted in another recent post, they always set their phone alarm for 40 minutes. I’ve had the best luck in trying out a number of different providers and sticking with someone who you like (as with everything else in life.)

I always insist on showers before and after and the providers seem to open to this. I’ve found this is to be one of the best parts of the experience.

I have very little complaints about this service other than it may take you a few tries to find a provider who will meet your needs.

(2) Caesar’s Sauna

Tons has been written here about Caesar’s so I’ll only add a few things that I found.

First, the first time I visited I was disappointed to find that there was no "Special Massages" being offered that day. When I left, one of the guys as the front desk pulled me aside and told me that they were laying low due to LE raids. If you are set on having something beyond a good swim and sauna, I’d suggest you call ahead to make sure. Their phone number is (02) 2712-9999. You may need to request someone who speaks English. Just say "Special Massage today? ".

The experience was very consistent with what others have posted. 7-8 girl, nice back massage, warm tea AR (which is absolutely wonderful), followed by CG and mish. They have strict time limits (1 hour I believe) and will stop and ask for more money if you don’t finish up in time.

Total is the same as other have said: NT4300 = NT4200 for massage plus NT100 for shoeshine. My shoes did come out nice.

By the way, the Asiaworld shopping center, where this place is located is a nice, normal shopping mall. There is a food court in the basement and lots of shopping if you feel so inclined before or after. The mall shuts down, like most malls, around 10pm but I believe you can get to Caesar’s 24 hours via the elevator.

(3) Tokyo Sauna

After all of the mentions of this on the forum, I thought I’d give this a try too. It took me a while to find the place. It’s a long 3-block walk from the Shuanglian train station. The place is on the north side of the street just before you reach Xinsheng Road. It’s a big building with double doors and a doorman out front. Of course, everything is in Mandarin but there is a big white sign near the street with the word "Sauna".

The overall experience was quite similar to Caesar’s. The layout of the sauna is different. Caesar’s had everything except the "special rooms" on one big floor, so it’s pretty easy to find your way around. Tokyo is split over three floors. It’s a little more confusing. The locker room is on the main floor, the sauna/pool/showers are below, and the relaxation room is above.

I was disappointed at the selection of providers when I went but I think this was in large part due to the time of day – it was around noon on Saturday. I suspect this is a lull when they don’t have their best staff on hand. I ended up with an enthusiastic but older gal. She was a bit heavy for my tastes too. ;.(

Price was identical to Caesar’s – NT4300. I went in with my tennis shoes and was surprised to see that when I left they were pearly white. I chuckled about this when I left.

Generally, I didn’t see any reason to prefer Tokyo over Caesar’s. Maybe I was overcharged, others have mentioned lower prices. For the same price, Caesar’s is cleaner and the location is better.

(4) Star of Light Massage

After I finished up at Tokyo, I had read a recent post about Star of Light Massage a few blocks down, on Changchun Road between Linsen and Xinsheng. I was in the mood for a good neck massage so walked down Linsen.

I wandered around Chanchun street for a while before I saw Star of Light. Although they have a big sign on the building, you cannot see it unless you are on the opposite side of the street (they are on the south side). The block of Changchun road seems to be a good place to go for regular massage. I counted 4-5 different massage places, many of them focusing on foot or head/neck massage.

Star of Light clearly stands out since they have a host of very hot girls standing out front in short dresses and high heels. I went in and was told that it would be NT2400 for 2-hour full body massage. I know that this was vegetarian going in so I wasn’t expecting anything other than a relaxing neck and back massage.

You enter a small dark room with a big TV screen and a recliner. The girl enters and provides you with drinks if you like and some nice warm towels. The setup is clearly geared toward nothing "special" – the girls dresses, though small and tight, are not intended to come off, the recliner is set for only one person, and they throw a big blanket around your mid-section when the massage starts (the message here is not subtle at all).

All in all it was a very good massage and I really enjoyed the scenery. Of particular note was when she was oil massaging my chest and I was looking straight up into hers. I came out relaxed and feeling good. I recommend this place. Of course, if you are more cost-conscious, I think you could get a similar full-body oil massage at one of the other places on the street for less, but of course this might be with a middle-aged woman, or worse yet, a guy.

By the way, at various points during the massage, a few of the other hot girls entered the room and asked if I wanted two girls. This was clearly a sales ploy. I couldn’t see any real value in doing a two-girl massage without anything "special". I’d steer clear of this.

We’ll I’m off to the airport. Let me know what you think of this all this. I’ll be posting more on future trips.

Crater

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Who did you have success with? Do you remember a name or number?

Did you ever try LT?

I"m heading to Taipei soon. So I'm just scouting up some goods, making a list and checking it twice!

[QUOTE=Crater999](1) Outcall.- Yuki's

I'm becoming a regular with Yuki, she recognizes my voice and is now sending me the provider I ask for consistently. As stated in other posts, the outcall phone numbers are posted in the back pages of the English language newspapers: The Taipei Times or the China Post. The best place to get a copy is one of the 7-Elevens around every corner. The phone numbers are toward the back at the paper in the classifieds. There are usually 6-8 different phone numbers, all of which offer call out "Special Massage" or something similar.[/QUOTE]

The girls change every week or so, yuki has tooo many on stock. Haha.

Just be very clear what you want and you will get nearly your request. If she is good ask her mobile nr. And try next day again.

Have fun and report

Thomas Jefferson

[QUOTE=Freakspead]Who did you have success with? Do you remember a name or number?
Did you ever try LT?

I"m heading to Taipei soon... so I'm just scouting up some goods, making a list and checking it twice![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crater999]Hi guys,

(4) Star of Light Massage

After I finished up at Tokyo, I had read a recent post about Star of Light Massage a few blocks down, on Changchun Road between Linsen and Xinsheng. I was in the mood for a good neck massage so walked down Linsen.

I wandered around Chanchun street for a while before I saw Star of Light. Although they have a big sign on the building, you cannot see it unless you are on the opposite side of the street (they are on the south side). The block of Changchun road seems to be a good place to go for regular massage. I counted 4-5 different massage places, many of them focusing on foot or head/neck massage.

Star of Light clearly stands out since they have a host of very hot girls standing out front in short dresses and high heels. I went in and was told that it would be NT2400 for 2-hour full body massage. I know that this was vegetarian going in so I wasn’t expecting anything other than a relaxing neck and back massage.

You enter a small dark room with a big TV screen and a recliner. The girl enters and provides you with drinks if you like and some nice warm towels. The setup is clearly geared toward nothing "special" – the girls dresses, though small and tight, are not intended to come off, the recliner is set for only one person, and they throw a big blanket around your mid-section when the massage starts (the message here is not subtle at all).

All in all it was a very good massage and I really enjoyed the scenery. Of particular note was when she was oil massaging my chest and I was looking straight up into hers. I came out relaxed and feeling good. I recommend this place. Of course, if you are more cost-conscious, I think you could get a similar full-body oil massage at one of the other places on the street for less, but of course this might be with a middle-aged woman, or worse yet, a guy.

By the way, at various points during the massage, a few of the other hot girls entered the room and asked if I wanted two girls. This was clearly a sales ploy. I couldn’t see any real value in doing a two-girl massage without anything "special". I’d steer clear of this.

We’ll I’m off to the airport. Let me know what you think of this all this. I’ll be posting more on future trips.

Crater

[/QUOTE]

Heh heh. At Star Light there is definitely special, but you need to be a regular first and a big spender. You need to chat up the "manager" that bought you in and get his/her name, and make a few consecutive visits, and then they will ask you for "special". Is this their way of being careful, caucasian or asian.

Downside - you need to be a regular that means you need to make at least 5 visits (10K down the drain)

Upside - as soon as you become a regular you can go straight to the "special rooms" and get it done. But usually at location like this it'll cost you more than 4K. I believe the going rate is 7K-8K, but I have heard they charge as little as 6K. Their girls are generally younger and hotter, but no guarantees.

[QUOTE=Big Boss Man]

You see some great looking women walking around the Linsen area which I guess is known as the Combat Zone. Some touts offered me very young girls for $5000. You get yourself a room and they call the girl. They promise a very young girl.[/QUOTE]

I tried the shit one. Butt ugly girl (4 out of 10), never again.

[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Thanks for clearing that up, i just have to ask straight out then. but by operating that way, how many customers do they do per night...?

Also: What is a reasonable price for a over night stay?[/QUOTE]

My experience is how weekends they are out hunting around 7-8 p.m. You will see the pimps far away, but keeping a tab on them. They chat you up. Remember, NEVER go to their place, go to YOUR hotel place (but not home, you don't want to let them know where you live) or hourly hotel.

They usually will rush the deed within an hour (30 minutes if you're a quick shooter) and want to go. So I would guess they do around 3 guys a night.

Price? I'm told it really depends. Lowest I heard is 3K and highest is 12K (she better be one hot *****), but on average it's about 6-8K.

Anyway, I have not been a bar guy for a couple of years now so keep that in mind. I stick with KTVs nowadays.

Three days ago I checked the SanChong Tofu House Area by the river bank. Everything back to normal again. "Police Clean Up" was only temporarily. Now pimps are everywhere, although they keep the low profile.

There is only one house got quality control. All girls are young and above 7. But I really don't like their poor-condition rooms. Only big enough to put a mattress and the wooden wall does not reach the ceiling, a gap for the air circulation. I had complained about the noise from the next room. The girl said some guys got horny when they heard the action noise and fake orgasm noise from the neighbors.

I tried another house who got larger rooms. I chose a 5'8" tall athlete like girl. She is my type (long leg) and I got no problem to cum in 15 min (for NT$1500) . She told me she is a grad student in Physical Education of National Taiwan Normal University. I said according to your body shape, they should give you scalarship. She said that is not the case so that she needs money.

Some houses offer NT$2200~2400 for 30 min.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]Three days ago I checked the SanChong Tofu House Area by the river bank. Everything back to normal again. "Police Clean Up" was only temporarily. Now pimps are everywhere, although they keep the low profile.

There is only one house got quality control. All girls are young and above 7. But I really don't like their poor-condition rooms. Only big enough to put a mattress and the wooden wall does not reach the ceiling, a gap for the air circulation. I had complained about the noise from the next room. The girl said some guys got horny when they heard the action noise and fake orgasm noise from the neighbors.

I tried another house who got larger rooms. I chose a 5'8" tall athlete like girl. She is my type (long leg) and I got no problem to cum in 15 min (for NT$1500) . She told me she is a grad student in Physical Education of National Taiwan Normal University. I said according to your body shape, they should give you scalarship. She said that is not the case so that she needs money.

Some houses offer NT$2200~2400 for 30 min.[/QUOTE]Hammer

Fifteen minute, beginning to end is just a bit rush for me. I remember in the old days of the early 80's when you could get atleast 90 minutes for under $800NT, that was when the currency was $1USD to $40+NT (especially on the black market). There was plentiful supplies and the quality was very decent. I remember mongering one night with a friend and I pick up a college gal for only $400NT (under $10 USD). A quick BJ was even less.

Tea houses were all over the place. You could go into a tea house and go into a cube with a gal for all the feel and BJ for even less than that and the supply was so plentiful. Tea House now only serve tea and snacks. i love it before that they were serving up beautiful college girls. I find these college girls snack a bit more tasty than their rice cakes.

Then came the nineties and the green party where they started wiping out most of these establishments. I do commend the green party for cleaning up taiwan. Taipei is just so much cleaner than before but as for the nightlife it is gone.

There are a few KTV that still offer the quality and service of yesteryears but the cost is extremely high. There is also a few naked ktvs' but most are only accessible by private membership only. You need to have the connections before the party begins, but the price is quite astronomical.

I just now prefer to monger in China where the quality and price is just so much cheaper. The other reason is that my wifey has a lot of high profile family there. I just feel that it is safer to do it across the strait.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]Three days ago I checked the SanChong Tofu House Area by the river bank. Everything back to normal again. "Police Clean Up" was only temporarily. Now pimps are everywhere, although they keep the low profile.

There is only one house got quality control. All girls are young and above 7. But I really don't like their poor-condition rooms. Only big enough to put a mattress and the wooden wall does not reach the ceiling, a gap for the air circulation. I had complained about the noise from the next room. The girl said some guys got horny when they heard the action noise and fake orgasm noise from the neighbors.

I tried another house who got larger rooms. I chose a 5'8" tall athlete like girl. She is my type (long leg) and I got no problem to cum in 15 min (for NT$1500) . She told me she is a grad student in Physical Education of National Taiwan Normal University. I said according to your body shape, they should give you scalarship. She said that is not the case so that she needs money.

Some houses offer NT$2200~2400 for 30 min.[/QUOTE]

Sounds about right. 15 min is fine but you just dont enjoy it as much. Cant get that nice long "shag" feeling. Reminds me of going to one of those video booths where you rush to finish before your money or time runs out.

I have found the time ok and allows me the chance to go to another place and get another girl. Have even done a 3P with 2 girls in 15 min. Good to know about SC, I usually go there only if my "LaoPou" is there and begging me to come in and see her. Get better sex that way when they want it (or more likely just want my money ;-)

Either way works for me.

I drove through San Chong yesterday and didn't see that much of anything. Has anybody else been recently and confirmed that things are back in business? Perhaps I needed to stop and walk around.

Following SC, I headed over to Longshan and walked a bit and there were perhaps 1/4 the girls that are normally around. I was approached more aggressively than usual by two older (but not bad looking) girls in the first several minutes and I thought that something was up but realized that perhaps the market is drying up and they need to push a bit more. There were more pimps than usual, something that I dislike and something that I had not seen before.

Heading across the river, I found a few old bbs type places in Zhonghe and Yonghe. Those who have been here for more than a few days know what I am talking about. However, the variety was not so good and I decided it wasn't my day.

After many fail attemp I finally have something to report.

Ka ding road in between canton rd and the park.

There is a motel. Inside there is alot young girls standing there.

You can't see if if you just walk on ka ding road.

You'll see all the older lady on the street.

Once you make the turn. 5 step, you'll see then entrance of hotel, and beside the hotel there is a small parking lot. There is like 20+ young girls standing inside.

Older and girls from China stand outside on the street.

I went there this Monday. (this is Monday, I can't image on the weekend.)

By the way go around 11pm.

10: 30 nobody there, only few old ones.

I walk to night market of LS brought a drink. Then walk back.

Holly shit.

I went Tuesday too

But I went around 12

Only few.

I am not sure if good ones are busying, or it's Tuesday night.

Gonna take a walk later

Anybody let me know if you like to venture together.

Let me know.

This report is from about 3 weeks ago.

So after the fine report by ABC Boy concerning "Number 68" at Caesar's, I had to go and try her out. I hit the Sauna around 11 am, and asked the mamasan for number 68, and she led me up to the room.

In came the girl, and I must say she had a fine body, but her face wasn; t really to my taste. It wasn't that she was ugly, far from it. She just wasn't really my type totally. But her body was the selling point (and she is a bit younger, I would say around mid-twenties), so I went for it.

Then she started to give me a massage, and it was pretty obvious she had very little idea as to what she was doing. I then suggested that I give her a massage. She was a little uneasy at first, but once she realized that I knew what I was doing she relaxed.

However, this just made her more chatty. And in that I had started to work up a sweat giving her a massage, she ended up getting up and calling the front to turn up the air-con. I thought no problem, good idea actually. So then she sdtarted to give me a BBBJ, but once again, she didn't really know what she was doing. So I told her to put on the cover and we woul; d start. She did, but before we started, she kept complaining about the aircon, and called up front again. It was starting to get annoying, especially considering the fact that I really didn't care. I think she was more worried about getting sweated on.

So we got to the deed in all the regulars. Mish, AGC, etc. We then shifted to Doggie, and she hears the mamasan outside, and while we are going at it, she starts complaining to the mamasan. So, I actually start to get a bit pissed off at this point, and in response I start smacking her ass. Not too hard, but to get her attention back to the matter at hand. So finally I came, but I was rather annoyed with the whole thing.

In general, she was very hot, but kind of a whiny, spoiled youngster. Not that I am that old mind you (35). I think if you get down to the deed with her, and stick to that (and some small talk) it will be fine. Mind you, all my talking was in Chinese, so there was no language barrier. Sometimes though, I wish there were one!

Face: 7. Nice, but not my styke.

Body: 9. I pretty much agree with ABC Boy here, but my 10s are reserved for model quality.

Attitude: 3. I just didn't connect with her, and by the end of it she was annoying me. YMMV though.

Ability: 3. I don't think she really knows what to do, and relies upon her looks alot.

Big Bro X

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So I went to Sanchong again on Tuesday afternoon. There was a lot more activity there this time. After seeing Exile's report, I think that the nights are a bit tight there these days - it seems that is when the police presence is highest.

That being said, on my "approach" there on scooter, I did see a cop car parked a fair ways down from the triangle park. But it wasnt moving, and it was far enough away to not really do much.

So I saw a mamasan (who I gave the nod to), and we went to the side of the park, more on the street the goes to Huanhe lu.There were quite a few Mamasans around, actually. So I think daytime is a safer bet all around.

This is where the story gets a bit funny. So they led me to the room, where there were 5 girls or so lined up for my viewing. They debated trying to charge me double, but the mamasan sadi no, the price is the same to the girls. I was impressed actually. I then mentioned that I spoke fluent Chinese, so for them not to worry. Two of the girls looked completely terrified to go with me, so I didnt even consider them. There was a nice looking girl in pink, with a very nice body and decent breasts, so I went for her. She was a bit older (I would say about 30), but she looked good, so I was happy.

Into the room we went. But first I went to the little boys room ... and wait a second, this is the sdame place that I had to crawl through the super tight alleyway in the back!!! But this time I had come through the front door, and the mamasan was different!! Funny. I wne to the room, and felt quite a nice connection with this girl. Not too fake, and overall enjoyable. We had a very nice chat afterward, and she told me most of the girls are still afraid of the police , but money must be made, and they have lightened up somewhat recently. Let's just hope it lightens up even more.

Her name was "Qian Qian".

Funny enough, when I came out, all the girls were busy.

Overall:

Face: 7 - Nice, but a bit older.

Body: 7.5 - Very nice. She would have a higher score if she didnt have stretch marks on her belly. They werent that noticeable, but they were there.

Attitude: 9 - Aside from the time setting on the clock, she was great. I will have to try and get her number for myself.

Ability: 9 - Very good. Most of the "older" girls have much more ability and endurance. And, they at least pretend to be interested.

Big Bro X

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I just came back.

Don't go on Wednesday.

I went 11:30.

Only 5 old grand ma.

Not sure if I went too early or too late.

But I notice the night market across the street is closing.

Korean,

CAn you be a little more specific on where this place is? Especially for those of us not very familiar with the place.

Maybe suggest how to get there via public transport -- MRT?

[QUOTE=Korean]I just came back.

Don't go on Wednesday.

I went 11:30.

Only 5 old grand ma.

Not sure if I went too early or too late.

But I notice the night market across the street is closing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Korean]
Ka ding road in between canton rd and the park.
[/QUOTE]

Where? The roads intersect each other. If you saw what I think, that was a massage place.

Street Walkers on KanDing Rd, between GuiLing Rd and HoPing W. Rd. Majority of them are 40+ years old, not my type, but you might find someone under 30 at the corner of KanDing+GuiLing before midnight. I dated a 25 (or so) years old 5'7" (or up) tall, pale/white skin color pretty girl. I told her you are outstanding in this area. She said she can't work everyday long hours in the cat house. So she chooses to be here. No pimp, she can choose the day and time to work. She would only show up at most 3 days in a week, only (if) between 8 to 11pm. I've aked her the cell number so that I can check if she is on duty or not.

Mrt LS temple

Right beside the temple, there is a small night market (right beside not across the street)

Walk in all the way to the end of the street

Go across the street.

Turn right, walk straight.

Then you'll start seeing the girls.

Just close to the intercetion

There is a motel

There is a small vally or street beside.

You'll lots girls there.

Young one are inside so they not running into people they know.

Old one and girls from China stand on street.

Yesterday I went to two Ximending area bba. Not usually my thing but it was raining and the girls were real, real, real aggressive; far more than I have ever seen. Neither had anything special but were packed. I would say that there were 12 in one and more than that in the other.

However, in the first one, which had the better selection, I asked how much and was greeted with......................$6k. Yes, $6.K! This was not, I remind you, one of ABC Boy's KTV's, just a standard bbs full of standard bbs girls from the good ole' days. They dropped the price to $4k but I wasn't feeling it and went on. $6K? Something is up or I look far more like a sucker than I believed.

I walked around the corner and found the next shop-aggressive girls, a bit older, dressed in office girl or massage parlor outfits. The quote? Yep, $6k, quickly dropping to $4K. They were nice and one took me aside and said that she would help me out for less so a hj, again, not usually my thing, went for $1,200 and she offered fs for $3k, which I declined. However, in chatting with her, I found that they have had a lot of foreigners in the area recently and that $6k has quickly become the standard price because...........THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE PAYING.

I really hope that it is not anybody that reads this doing so because that is beyond insane and I fear that somebody is going to go to SC, now that it is open again, and start offering $10K for 10 minutes or some stupid thing.

I'd like to add some information about a KTV place on the corner of Minsheng and Linsen. It is on the 6th floor and the big sign "MTV, 6F" on the corner of the building can't be missed. Actually, Tokyo Sauna is east on Minsheng within one block. The entrance to the elevators are on Linsen Street north of Minsheng.

Anyway, I've been there two times in the past two weeks and each time left satisfied. At first, the price of entry is $2500 for one hour. You get a room with a girl they assign to you. If you don't like the girl, you can ask to change for another one. They give you lots of handy wipes along with some tea for the room.

The first time I was there the girl was 32 years old about 5'6" with a nice body but not much up on top. There was no problem starting with a hug and then kissing down to her sweet breasts. And then slowly disrobing her. But, she showed me the string hanging out of her pussy, so it was her time of the month. With her limited English, she asked to see me, so I immediately dropped trou for her delight. She said I was beautiful and I said would you like to kiss. She opened up the handy wipe and proceeded to clean him before starting the most enjoyable BBBJ I've had in a long time. And then she stopped leaving me hanging in suspense. Agonizing, I motioned for her to continue and she did until completion for a wonderful CIM. No problem. I guess since it was her time of the month, this is the service that is automatically provided. I don't know of any other service here but YMMV of course.

The second time as similar with a 25 year old girl who looked like a simple school girl one would see on the street. She was a little more plump and had more ample breasts for my enjoyment. This one was more reluctant for BBBJCIM, however with a little of coaxing on my part and a through cleaning with the handy wipes, she complied.

I always give a little tip of a couple $$ for these girls and treat them with tender care as their job is most difficult and I'm sure they get drunk customers that treat them horribly at times.

I'm most thankful for the contributors on this thread as they have provided invaluable information.

[QUOTE=Exile]Yesterday I went to two Ximending area bba. Not usually my thing but it was raining and the girls were real, real, real aggressive; far more than I have ever seen. Neither had anything special but were packed. I would say that there were 12 in one and more than that in the other.

However, in the first one, which had the better selection, I asked how much and was greeted with......................$6k. Yes, $6.K! This was not, I remind you, one of ABC Boy's KTV's, just a standard bbs full of standard bbs girls from the good ole' days. They dropped the price to $4k but I wasn't feeling it and went on. $6K? Something is up or I look far more like a sucker than I believed.

I walked around the corner and found the next shop-aggressive girls, a bit older, dressed in office girl or massage parlor outfits. The quote? Yep, $6k, quickly dropping to $4K. They were nice and one took me aside and said that she would help me out for less so a hj, again, not usually my thing, went for $1,200 and she offered fs for $3k, which I declined. However, in chatting with her, I found that they have had a lot of foreigners in the area recently and that $6k has quickly become the standard price because...........THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE PAYING.

I really hope that it is not anybody that reads this doing so because that is beyond insane and I fear that somebody is going to go to SC, now that it is open again, and start offering $10K for 10 minutes or some stupid thing.[/QUOTE]This is a very disturbing trend. I sincerely hope that none of our fellow mongers are responsible for this. Probably just some dumb tourist types (I hope).

[QUOTE=Korean]Mrt LS temple

Right beside the temple, there is a small night market (right beside not across the street)

Walk in all the way to the end of the street

Go across the street.

Turn right, walk straight.

Then you'll start seeing the girls.

Just close to the intercetion

There is a motel

There is a small vally or street beside.

You'll lots girls there.

Young one are inside so they not running into people they know.

Old one and girls from China stand on street.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info Korean. Ming you, with the percentage of grandmas there, I will probably stick to SC.

[QUOTE=Big Brother X]So I went to Sanchong again on Tuesday afternoon. There was a lot more activity there this time. After seeing Exile's report, I think that the nights are a bit tight there these days - it seems that is when the police presence is highest.

That being said, on my "approach" there on scooter, I did see a cop car parked a fair ways down from the triangle park. But it wasnt moving, and it was far enough away to not really do much.

So I saw a mamasan (who I gave the nod to), and we went to the side of the park, more on the street the goes to Huanhe lu.There were quite a few Mamasans around, actually. So I think daytime is a safer bet all around.

This is where the story gets a bit funny. So they led me to the room, where there were 5 girls or so lined up for my viewing. They debated trying to charge me double, but the mamasan sadi no, the price is the same to the girls. I was impressed actually. I then mentioned that I spoke fluent Chinese, so for them not to worry. Two of the girls looked completely terrified to go with me, so I didnt even consider them. There was a nice looking girl in pink, with a very nice body and decent breasts, so I went for her. She was a bit older (I would say about 30), but she looked good, so I was happy.

Into the room we went. But first I went to the little boys room ... and wait a second, this is the sdame place that I had to crawl through the super tight alleyway in the back!!! But this time I had come through the front door, and the mamasan was different!! Funny. I wne to the room, and felt quite a nice connection with this girl. Not too fake, and overall enjoyable. We had a very nice chat afterward, and she told me most of the girls are still afraid of the police , but money must be made, and they have lightened up somewhat recently. Let's just hope it lightens up even more.

Her name was "Qian Qian".

Funny enough, when I came out, all the girls were busy.

Overall:

Face: 7 - Nice, but a bit older.

Body: 7.5 - Very nice. She would have a higher score if she didnt have stretch marks on her belly. They werent that noticeable, but they were there.

Attitude: 9 - Aside from the time setting on the clock, she was great. I will have to try and get her number for myself.

Ability: 9 - Very good. Most of the "older" girls have much more ability and endurance. And, they at least pretend to be interested.

Big Bro X

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[QUOTE=Exile]Yesterday I went to two Ximending area bba. Not usually my thing but it was raining and the girls were real, real, real aggressive; far more than I have ever seen. Neither had anything special but were packed. I would say that there were 12 in one and more than that in the other.

However, in the first one, which had the better selection, I asked how much and was greeted with......................$6k. Yes, $6.K! This was not, I remind you, one of ABC Boy's KTV's, just a standard bbs full of standard bbs girls from the good ole' days. They dropped the price to $4k but I wasn't feeling it and went on. $6K? Something is up or I look far more like a sucker than I believed.

I walked around the corner and found the next shop-aggressive girls, a bit older, dressed in office girl or massage parlor outfits. The quote? Yep, $6k, quickly dropping to $4K. They were nice and one took me aside and said that she would help me out for less so a hj, again, not usually my thing, went for $1,200 and she offered fs for $3k, which I declined. However, in chatting with her, I found that they have had a lot of foreigners in the area recently and that $6k has quickly become the standard price because...........THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE PAYING.

I really hope that it is not anybody that reads this doing so because that is beyond insane and I fear that somebody is going to go to SC, now that it is open again, and start offering $10K for 10 minutes or some stupid thing.[/QUOTE]Can you give me direction for the bbs on ximending

I live 5 minute walk from there, but I can never seem any bbs

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=Big Brother X]This report is from about 3 weeks ago.

So after the fine report by ABC Boy concerning "Number 68" at Caesar's, I had to go and try her out. I hit the Sauna around 11 am, and asked the mamasan for number 68, and she led me up to the room.

In came the girl, and I must say she had a fine body, but her face wasn; t really to my taste. It wasn't that she was ugly, far from it. She just wasn't really my type totally. But her body was the selling point (and she is a bit younger, I would say around mid-twenties), so I went for it.

Then she started to give me a massage, and it was pretty obvious she had very little idea as to what she was doing. I then suggested that I give her a massage. She was a little uneasy at first, but once she realized that I knew what I was doing she relaxed.

However, this just made her more chatty. And in that I had started to work up a sweat giving her a massage, she ended up getting up and calling the front to turn up the air-con. I thought no problem, good idea actually. So then she sdtarted to give me a BBBJ, but once again, she didn't really know what she was doing. So I told her to put on the cover and we woul; d start. She did, but before we started, she kept complaining about the aircon, and called up front again. It was starting to get annoying, especially considering the fact that I really didn't care. I think she was more worried about getting sweated on.

So we got to the deed in all the regulars. Mish, AGC, etc. We then shifted to Doggie, and she hears the mamasan outside, and while we are going at it, she starts complaining to the mamasan. So, I actually start to get a bit pissed off at this point, and in response I start smacking her ass. Not too hard, but to get her attention back to the matter at hand. So finally I came, but I was rather annoyed with the whole thing.

In general, she was very hot, but kind of a whiny, spoiled youngster. Not that I am that old mind you (35). I think if you get down to the deed with her, and stick to that (and some small talk) it will be fine. Mind you, all my talking was in Chinese, so there was no language barrier. Sometimes though, I wish there were one!

Face: 7. Nice, but not my styke.

Body: 9. I pretty much agree with ABC Boy here, but my 10s are reserved for model quality.

Attitude: 3. I just didn't connect with her, and by the end of it she was annoying me. YMMV though.

Ability: 3. I don't think she really knows what to do, and relies upon her looks alot.

Big Bro X

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Wow, I am sorry to hear that. We chatted so well and she did me like her boyfriend.... but yeah, sorry to hear your bad experience.

[QUOTE=Big Brother X]Thanks for the info Korean. Ming you, with the percentage of grandmas there, I will probably stick to SC.[/QUOTE]I want to go try sc as well but no car.

I don't think I want to drive in taiwan. It's not like driving in North America.

[QUOTE=Korean]I want to go try sc as well but no car.

I don't think I want to drive in taiwan. It's not like driving in North America.[/QUOTE]

How about a taxi? They will glad to drive you around helping you monger, in fact a few of them probably are experts to the mongering scene in SC.

[QUOTE=Big Brother X]This is a very disturbing trend. I sincerely hope that none of our fellow mongers are responsible for this. Probably just some dumb tourist types (I hope).[/QUOTE]

Many possibilities:

1) Dumb Tourists
2) Rich bastards
3) People who are doing it for the first time and too shy to bargain

I always bargain (except KTV, they don't mess around, pay up or shut up) when I'm mongering in the streets. I once got a pimp in XMD to lower his demand from 7K to 3K.

But still, I don't like the "street feel" - when I'm out having fun I want to HAVE FUN man... that's why I stick with KTVs.

Hi guys,

As I have been lurking around the forum regularly and have made few comments myself. I'm an ABC but look more like Flipiino or Mexican LOL!!!however I can speak Chinese and English just fine, so it's no problem for me to getting around mongering. As I was waiting for traffic lights on the corner of Linsen and Nanjin, an older lady approach me and handed me a biz card asking me if I want to do KTV, I chatted for a bit and she gave me another card and asked me to call for girls that will go to my hotel for full service. I didn't ask the price nor origin of the girls, however she said all the girls are young between 20 to 25, I don't know if it's again rule to post her biz card number in here, someone pls let me know and I'll post it. My local friends has gone to a unspecific location and gotten a full service for around 2800NT. One of the guy has connection to a phone number, once you call and setup an appointment, the person over the phone will direct you to an apartment, then the girl will open the door and you going in to do your biz. I guess you can request the nationality of the girls like Vietnam, Taiwan, China, and etc. However, you will need to be bring in by a regular from what I hear. Anyhow once I get a chance to check it out, I'll make sure write up a full report.

[QUOTE=Roni44]Hi guys,

I chatted for a bit and she gave me another card and asked me to call for girls that will go to my hotel for full service. I didn't ask the price nor origin of the girls, however she said all the girls are young between 20 to 25, I don't know if it's again rule to post her biz card number in here, someone pls let me know and I'll post it. My local friends has gone to a unspecific location and gotten a full service for around 2800NT. One of the guy has connection to a phone number, once you call and setup an appointment, the person over the phone will direct you to an apartment, then the girl will open the door and you going in to do your biz. I guess you can request the nationality of the girls like Vietnam, Taiwan, China, and etc. However, you will need to be bring in by a regular from what I hear. Anyhow once I get a chance to check it out, I'll make sure write up a full report.[/QUOTE]


Yes, please do write a report to advance the mongering scene in Taiwan.

Don't post telephone numbers here. Even though the syndicates have different numbers to cover their tracks, let's keep the numbers within the confines of PMs. So invest in a subscription and you'll gain more information by posting publicly and getting specifics by PM.

PS. I'm pretty sure you won't get 20-25 year old girls for less than 4000 nt. But Asians age slower so someone who is 30 can look 20 so it's ok.

I chatted with one girl afterwards in a "special massage" shop and she told me that she gets 50% of what I pay.

This was no SPA or telephone call service.

I think in a Sauna/SPA she gets even much less from the 4 200 TWD, since the whole big infrastructure, rent, mamasan and profit of the people behind must also be covered.

The thing is that I don't want to finance some gangster's villa and sport cars, the girl should get the money for good service and she will also be more motivated.

So how can you get more money to the girl and waste less for some third party?
How much is their share from a call service? Do they have to pay a fixed fee per transaction or share their income?

Regards

[QUOTE=David Mr]I chatted with one girl afterwards in a "special massage" shop and she told me that she gets 50% of what I pay.

This was no SPA or telephone call service.

I think in a Sauna/SPA she gets even much less from the 4 200 TWD, since the whole big infrastructure, rent, mamasan and profit of the people behind must also be covered.

The thing is that I don't want to finance some gangster's villa and sport cars, the girl should get the money for good service and she will also be more motivated.

So how can you get more money to the girl and waste less for some third party?
How much is their share from a call service? Do they have to pay a fixed fee per transaction or share their income?

Regards[/QUOTE]

My goodness what the heck, are you running a charity?

Anyway, if you want to know, the best way is to give her plenty of tips after the business transaction. They are not require to share the amount of tips to their employers. This is why they always look for sugar daddy, people who will buy them gifts and tips rather than just payment for service.

This is why one way I made sure I have extra-effort is to give them a hint that if she treats me well not only will she get repeat visit, but maybe a gift for the future. Of course most of them are dumb enough to fall for it and I always get the "boy friend" treatment.

In case you're wondering: my personal monger policy is "no seconds" unless she is a rated 9 all around (which is rare)

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[QUOTE=Abc Boy]
Of course most of them are dumb enough to fall for it and I always get the "boy friend" treatment.

In case you're wondering: my personal monger policy is "no seconds" unless she is a rated 9 all around (which is rare)[/QUOTE]

Good policy ABC,

I get the numbers for any girl (regardless if she is a 9 or not) that I have had a great time with and occasionally call or text her. We can then have a "relationship" where she is still tied to the service or BBS but will go the extra mile when we meet. There are one or two who are no longer WGs but still will meet me on the side for some extra cash (yes I still keep the client/WG relationship) and we have a great time. That is how I met my 18 year old and she treats me BETTER than her ex-boyfriend.

She is not a 9 (although damn close) and many of the others are not but there is a lot to be said for having a girl willing to do anything to please you sexually at your beck and call.

My 2 NT.

[QUOTE=Exile]Taiwan floats plan for legalized prostitution zone

[url]http://in.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idINTRE55B1HJ20090612[/url][/QUOTE]Probably won't get passed by the legislators; they don't want to be seen as immoral.

Hi guys,

After many day, I finally find a young 22 years old girl.

Cost 1500 but for 15 minute.(not enough time)

No foreplay, 5 second of BJ and rest of time is pumping.

But girl didn't take shower before or after.

So I went home take a hot shower and getting ready for hotbath now.

Highly not recommand it.

Went to foot patrol on KanDing Rd betwen 1 to 2 am. Monday night is slow but I saw more than 5 girls in their 20s. An early 20s girl got a 9 face but she doesn't have the body I like. I am a leg man. She showed up briefly then disappeared (busy?).
A few years ago only older ladies are available in this area. Bad economy now ?

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]Went to foot patrol on KanDing Rd betwen 1 to 2 am. Monday night is slow but I saw more than 5 girls in their 20s. An early 20s girl got a 9 face but she doesn't have the body I like. I am a leg man. She showed up briefly then disappeared (busy?).
A few years ago only older ladies are available in this area. Bad economy now ?[/QUOTE]

Are you sure they are WGs?

[QUOTE=Korean]Hi guys,

After many day, I finally find a young 22 years old girl.

Cost 1500 but for 15 minute.(not enough time)

No foreplay, 5 second of BJ and rest of time is pumping.

But girl didn't take shower before or after.

So I went home take a hot shower and getting ready for hotbath now.

Highly not recommand it.[/QUOTE]

No shower? Never. Last time a girl asked if can she bypass the shower I told her sure, she can bypass my money back to me too. I can't even imagine how many men had touched them or licked them before. A shower is a must.

[QUOTE=Korean]Hi guys,

After many day, I finally find a young 22 years old girl.

Cost 1500 but for 15 minute.(not enough time)

No foreplay, 5 second of BJ and rest of time is pumping.

But girl didn't take shower before or after.

So I went home take a hot shower and getting ready for hotbath now.

Highly not recommand it.[/QUOTE]

Any particular place or should we be avoiding all Taipei 22 year olds?

[QUOTE=Exile]Any particular place or should we be avoiding all Taipei 22 year olds?[/QUOTE]It's streetwalker on KanDing Rd

[QUOTE=Exile]Yesterday I went to two Ximending area bba. Not usually my thing but it was raining and the girls were real, real, real aggressive; far more than I have ever seen. Neither had anything special but were packed. I would say that there were 12 in one and more than that in the other.[/QUOTE]Guy,

Can you give me direction?

I live like 5 minute away from Ximending.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Are you sure they are WGs?[/QUOTE]
Positive. They were not walking but standing there (on KanDing Rd near QuanZhou St) looking at Johns' eyes.

Last night I called a girl and went to KanDing/QuiLing corner to meet her, the 4th time I dated her. Twice here and twice at SanChong Tofu house in 2005 when she started her wh*r* career. However suddenly I lost the interest in her. I need new pussy.

tonight i took the train to taoyuan city and tried to locate a long-lost-contact college buddy. the house had been torn down and a new tall building stands there now. the neighbor has run into his mother on the street once in a few years but has no phone #. i heard he had divorced (i knew the couple both) and i miss him very much.

the location is very close to so called "long beauty alleys", about a dozen open cat houses rep001tered in "at least" three alleys located about 5 blocks northeast from taoyuan train station. i thought only two alleys but tonight i found the third alley by accident.

i saw a girl who i used to date a lot at sanchong tofu house from 2001 to 2005. finally i lost the interest because of her a- cup tits. she was the youngest girl here 6 months ago, but now more younger girls available (bad economy ?) and the average quality is better than the ladies on kanding rd. i like open house because i don't want to listen the shit from pimps and end up choosing "not really what i want" under pressure.

i cruised a while and the decision was made. however, i never saw that girl again although i kept cruising for about 2 hours. i asked the pimp of that house but she had no idea who i was talking about.

i walked to "about 5 blocks northwest from taoyuan train station", the other part of "long beauty alleys". only one house now. there were three houses here a few years ago. nothing interested. i walked toward the train station ready to go back home. a street walker approached me and asked nt$500. not interested. these old ladies standing here just look like those night-market stand owners.

suddenly i saw a dressed-to-kill girl in her mid 20s. she got the look (i gave her face 10) and outfit like girls who work in those steep-price club. she is like the supernova in a dim galaxy. she asked nt$2000. it was 11 pm. i told her i don't want to miss the last train to taipei (11:47pm). however, after 30 seconds i turned back to her because she is really the must-fuck. i would regret if not fucking her tonight. her place is just around the corner (2nd floor), look like a regular apartment but the inside looks like hotel room. her smooth skin is like white cream and flawless. don't see any red or black spot. probably like those japanese porn stars. she got western girl's big tits (also in great shape, maybe fake ?) and pink color nipples. couldn't be better for an asian girl. she is about 5'4" tall. although doesn't have long legs but in good proportion and shape, also nice ass. i have no complaint.

she is a neatness freak and spent a lot of time to shower my body. also 3 times on my face and twice in my mouth. i thought it must be some kind of special service later but just regular full service. maybe because i told her i was in a hurry (to catch the train)?

in the middle of pumping, suddenly her pussy discharged and overflowed like levee broken. i could hear (due to the piston action) the vaginal secretion flood inside/outside her pussy. if the normal fuck not counted. i've pumped prostitute to her real orgasm (there are some body/facial reactions that you can't fake), as i can recall/know of , once in dallas and once in los angeles, but never seen so much pussy juice on a hooker. when i finished the job and pulled out my dick, i still saw fluid coming out of her wet pussy, and the mattress was wet.

i must see her again but she wouldn't give me the phone #. so no way to check if she is on duty or not. well, " i'll see you when i see you".

she told me she only works from 11 pm to morning. i was her first customer tonight. no wonder so much pussy juice.

i really want to see her again but there is a problem. i don't live in taiwan and have no car here. the last train to taipei is 11:47pm. i don't want to take taxi from taoyuan to taipei. unless i could find some late night bus, if any, it's really difficult to see her again.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]Tonight I took the train to TaoYuan city,,,,,.[/QUOTE]You are brave. I would never go back to a WG's place. You never know who's waiting for you inside or in the closet.

But, glad it worked out for you.

It's pretty safe in Taiwan. Even the wh#re business is pretty honest. Also, police pretty much tolerates this business.
Last month when I was pumping a SW at KanDing/GuiLing hotel, the girl jumped off the bed and run without explanation when someone yielded outside. I stayed inside the room watching TV. I knew what's going on and was not afraid. A detective knocked the door to ask for my ID. 15 min later he gave back my ID and said "Why don't you go some other places much better than here". I had to admit that girl was the only fuckable (in my opinion) there at that moment. Police were looking for fugitives, not Johns.
After police left the hotel I went to the front desk asking "Now what ?". They asked me to stay in the room. 10 min later that girl came in and continued the unfinished fuck. Because of the interrupt, it took me a very long long long time to cum.
In the late '80s, the police raided a cathouse while I was pumping. The same scenario, the girl jumped off the bed and run. Police checked my ID then let me go. That was a cathouse not hotel. I had no reason to stay. However, I got a free unfinished fuck (you pay after).
I am 100% sure if this happens in Tijuana Mexico, police will take every penny from your wallet.
Don't carry $ more than the pump fee. What could be the worst ? Lost the $ you're ready to spend ? Although nothing bad ever happened to me in Taiwan.
If you run into a police raid, stay calm and don't run. They are not going to give you hard time. The target is fugitive not john. People died from falling from window/balcony during the police raid. So stupid while you're not the target.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]It's pretty safe in Taiwan. A detective knocked the door to ask for my ID.

If you run into a police raid, stay calm and don't run. They are not going to give you hard time. The target is fugitive not john. [/QUOTE]


Dude, you are my hero. Cool Hand Luke! Seriously, I'd shit my pants and probably be impotent from then on.

What if you don't have your ID? Most times johns go without ID or CC or such.

Sometimes (yeah, unlikely, but still...) there's camera crews that put busts like that on TV. I mean, TW's news is fucked up like that.

Yeah, raids like the ones you described are scary as shit.

One time, I heard gangsters yelling at each other just outside my door. Threatened to stab the other or get the Big Brother to bust the other up. Scary cause they used all kinds of cuss words. Anyway, mommy came in, so I paid for room and gave her a tip and left with my head and eyes to the ground.

But good to hear that johns are not the target.

[quote=brucetea]dude, you are my hero. cool hand luke! seriously, i'd shit my pants and probably be impotent from then on.

what if you don't have your id? most times johns go without id or cc or such.

sometimes (yeah, unlikely, but still...) there's camera crews that put busts like that on tv. i mean, tw's news is fucked up like that.

yeah, raids like the ones you described are scary as shit.

one time, i heard gangsters yelling at each other just outside my door. threatened to stab the other or get the big brother to bust the other up. scary cause they used all kinds of cuss words. anyway, mommy came in, so i paid for room and gave her a tip and left with my head and eyes to the ground.

but good to hear that johns are not the target.[/quote]

totally agree with bruceteam, stud man.

i was busted before with a girl that they claimed was ****. thank god when they checked her id she just turned 18 three months ago. they took me to the station and kept me sitting around for no good reason. they took my info and used me to implicate the girl. i was released later without so much as a "don't do that again". they cannot do anything legally to you if they catch you, they can only punish the girl and not the john. so they usually dont bother with you even though both partied know why you are there.

but like brucetea says, stay safe and be cautious. no point getting into trouble over a quick fuck.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]It's pretty safe in Taiwan. Even the wh#re business is pretty honest. .[/QUOTE]

I'm not worry about the police. Heck I abuse the police in Taiwan once when they actually pulled me over and think I'm a mainlander boat jumper.

Anyway, I'm not scare about the gang-run ***** establishments either. They are usually very safe because they just want your freaking money, and want you to be a repeat customer. They have learned long ago that they make more money milking the clients in the long run rather than rob them in the short run. Heck I think I've spent over $1 million TWD in those KTV joints over the years.

I'm talking about private WGs that works solo. They are the ones to avoid no matter how hot they are. They usually set you up to rob you blind. A common trick is to get you to their place, and their partner is crime hides in the closet or the bathroom, and as you enter they robbed you and force you to ATM to take out more money, and in extreme cases they do kill you.

This is why I think with high end places, I don't want to end up at the corner of Taiwanese newspaper of a robbery-killing.

In 2006 during the police cleaning up SanChong Tofu houses, my friend called me from his cell while cruising in that area and I could hear all the conversation. A police stopped him and asked "What are you doing here ? Any ID ?" My friend showed his US driver license and said "What people do here ? Looking for prostitutes." The police returned the ID and asked him to leave the area.

This April while the police cleaning up SanChong Tofu houses, I went to the so called "Palace", a notorious good quality house (girls pretty but rooms so bad). 3 plain cloth detectives stopped me outside the house (door closed and no pimps around). One cop asked me ""What are you doing here ? Any ID ?" I gave him the US driver license. He asked "Any Taiwan ID?" I said I don't have one. He asked why I was there. I tried to say something else but he wouldn't believe me and kept asking the same question "What is your real intention to be here?" Eventually I said "Looking for prostitutes". He smirked (implied "I win. I got you") and let me go.

If you worried about the scam and set-up, don't go to those single wh#rehouse/WG/pimp, although nothing bad ever happened to me. Go to those in groups in an area. They don't want a bad apple to fuck up every body's business and end up attracting police actions.

Many years ago you saw notes with phone # attached on everybody's car/motorcycle. I don't see that anymore because too many scams reported and resulted in police crackdown ? or nobody would eat that crap anymore ?

Back in Taiwan.

I've been meaning to try Yuki's or one of these other numbers in the papers and compare/contrast. However the hotel I'm staying at (The Koos Suites? ) has undergone a management change and I'm not sure how accepting they would be of a hooker walking in thru their building.

Having said that, anyone know of a good short time hotel near Pietou (Beitou) / Hsein Peitou (XinBeitou)? How does that work, you just walk in and ask for a room for short time. Do these short time places also offer girls if requested?

Also the massage place I ran into last time. And was refused service. I picked up their number. Tried to call but no luck. The lady spoke only Chinese. I think she hung up on me too! The place is on Daye Road, and its number is 28975099 if anyone has better Mandarin speaking abilities. Feel free to report. I peaked in there, and there seemed to be a collection of gals sitting up by the front.

Its looking like Asia World might be the best bet right now. Although it is the most expensive bet.

Any help bros?

I figured that since I had asked the folks here for some help, the least I should do is to try out for myself, finding that short term hotel.

I first did a google search, only to find this article pop up about the etiquette of Love Hotels from 2002. The guy basically stated that you can get frisky with the honey at some short stay hotels - didn't name names though.

I walked up and down the streets, jeez is it humid outside, and the best place that I found that was sorta away from the hoopla was Sincere Hotel. I walked in to find out how much they lived up to their name.

The front desk featured two old ladies - the hotel wasn't impressive but it would pass for the needs I was looking for. I asked the lady how much for one night and she asked me over and over again, for how many people - one or two? I said one, how much for a hotel room overnight. She puased, looked me up and down and stumbled out with NT1300! Dunno what the standards are, but that sounded a little too pricey for me. But still I pressed on, casually: "do you rent for hour?" What ensued was a two minute stance on how this place only rents for overnight and not one hour or two hours.

I was about to head out, but on the way out I threw out the line: "my friend said he come here and you rent out for hour". She paused, looked at me again, then she said how many hours, i said 1 - 2 hours, she kept insiting 3 hours. Just to get a price I said fine, for 3 hours - and she stumbled out with 5 hundred 80 thousand. I think she meant NT580, so I just said "oh NT 500 huh? Okay" "let me see the room and I can decide if I want to take it"

A little conversating ensued between the two ladies and she took me up to room 308. Opens up the door and its this small dingy room, a small table, bathroom, bed, a fan (probably helpful) and lo and behold on the night stand there was an unused condom. Alright now to reel in the bait.

"do you provide girl with room?" The lady looked in shock at me, she vehemently denied it. I picked up the condom and said, this says you provide a girl. She said no no, we don't provide. So I told her, okay Ill bring my girl with me thats okay. I don't think she got it, and she said I couldn't do that. She kept insisting that if I rent it, it would be only for one person. What would I do for three hours alone lady? She's not a bright one this one. I even tempted her, I told her I'll pay extra if you provide lady. She still denied it - impressive.

Well seeing as though I really didn't have any plans, and I was getting hungry, I said okay and followed her outside. On the way down she asked me if I had a girlfriend and I made up something along the lines of I dont have one and thats why I need the room for 3 hours. Wanted to see where she would go with that. Nowhere.

Oh well... On the way back I tried talking to the cab driver to see whats up with some short stay hotel rooms, but conversing in English can be a little tough with the cabbies.

I'm hoping you guys might be able to provide a lead. Meanwhile I got an itch to scratch.

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[QUOTE=Freakspead]I figured that since I had asked the folks here for some help, the least I should do is to try out for myself, finding that short term hotel.

I first did a google search, only to find this article pop up about the etiquette of Love Hotels from 2002. The guy basically stated that you can get frisky with the honey at some short stay hotels - didn't name names though.

I walked up and down the streets, jeez is it humid outside, and the best place that I found that was sorta away from the hoopla was Sincere Hotel. I walked in to find out how much they lived up to their name.

The front desk featured two old ladies - the hotel wasn't impressive but it would pass for the needs I was looking for. I asked the lady how much for one night and she asked me over and over again, for how many people - one or two? I said one, how much for a hotel room overnight. She puased, looked me up and down and stumbled out with NT1300! Dunno what the standards are, but that sounded a little too pricey for me. But still I pressed on, casually: "do you rent for hour?" What ensued was a two minute stance on how this place only rents for overnight and not one hour or two hours.

I was about to head out, but on the way out I threw out the line: "my friend said he come here and you rent out for hour". She paused, looked at me again, then she said how many hours, i said 1 - 2 hours, she kept insiting 3 hours. Just to get a price I said fine, for 3 hours - and she stumbled out with 5 hundred 80 thousand. I think she meant NT580, so I just said "oh NT 500 huh? Okay" "let me see the room and I can decide if I want to take it"

A little conversating ensued between the two ladies and she took me up to room 308. Opens up the door and its this small dingy room, a small table, bathroom, bed, a fan (probably helpful) and lo and behold on the night stand there was an unused condom. Alright now to reel in the bait.

"do you provide girl with room?" The lady looked in shock at me, she vehemently denied it. I picked up the condom and said, this says you provide a girl. She said no no, we don't provide. So I told her, okay Ill bring my girl with me thats okay. I don't think she got it, and she said I couldn't do that. She kept insisting that if I rent it, it would be only for one person. What would I do for three hours alone lady? She's not a bright one this one. I even tempted her, I told her I'll pay extra if you provide lady. She still denied it - impressive.

Well seeing as though I really didn't have any plans, and I was getting hungry, I said okay and followed her outside. On the way down she asked me if I had a girlfriend and I made up something along the lines of I dont have one and thats why I need the room for 3 hours. Wanted to see where she would go with that. Nowhere.

oms, but conversing in English can be a little tough with the cabbies.

I'm hoping you guys might be able to provide a lead. Meanwhile I got an itch to scratch.

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The majority of the love hotels do rent for either 3 hour or overnight. Most do not provide the girl. I have heard of some second-hand, but don't know which one. You can go there with your freebie if you can find or call a Yuki girl. I went to one at a hot spring resort in Xinbeitou. It was really nice with personal hot spring. Got girl to undress in hot spring if i turn around. After 2 rounds of hot spring, we showered and went to bed to relax for an hour. I put my move on for the last hour and succeeded. Lucky I guess. I tried again with another girl and she was 'shocked' that I liked her that way. I didn't press it. Just want to say my batting average isn't above .501

[QUOTE=Freakspead]
I'm hoping you guys might be able to provide a lead. Meanwhile I got an itch to scratch.
[/QUOTE]

Ahhhh, reminds me of my younger days of hourly hotel hunting. Ok, here goes.

First, be ready to accept the fact that unless you know the pimp really well, you're not getting any goods. They know they got you once you paid for 2 hours (and yes it's 2 hours, not 3, they ripped you.) The best you're going to get is 5 face, 7 body, and pray that she's less than 30 years old. (Now of course if you get lucky and it's a busy night then they will have no choice but send the good ones out, consider then that you hit the lottery, but it's not the norm - which is why I elevated to KTV...)

Second, Xinbeitou is a bad place to monger. The thought is well, hot springs, hot girls, wrong. If you notice those hot springs are primarily for people age 40+ or for family to go and unwind. Not for young people.

Third, the real hourly hotel with action is around the Ximending area. Go to any of those hotels (you'll spot them easily), especially with entrances in the alleys. Walk in, say you need to "rest" (translate that to Chinese), and it's usually two different process.

1) The cashier at the counter will expect you to signal that you want "company" - they will check you out, and decide if you're a true john or an undercover cop. If you are foreigner you are most likely a john. ABC like me tend to get rejected from time to time (another reason I move up to KTV)

2) The braver hourly hotels will just tell you - "go upstairs" when you ask to "rest" - and upon walking up stairs a mysterious person will jump out behind you (expect this), and ask "do you need a girl?" You say "yes" and the bidding begins. They will sucker you to "6000?" Don't ruin it for the rest of us and say yes, say "WHAT! 3000!" They usually smiles (and realize you're a veteran) and say "ok, ok, 3000"

But anyway, expect around age 28-35, face 5-6, body 6-8...

[QUOTE=Freakspead]Back in Taiwan.

I've been meaning to try Yuki's or one of these other numbers in the papers and compare/contrast. However the hotel I'm staying at (The Koos Suites? ) has undergone a management change and I'm not sure how accepting they would be of a hooker walking in thru their building.

Having said that, anyone know of a good short time hotel near Pietou (Beitou) / Hsein Peitou (XinBeitou)? How does that work, you just walk in and ask for a room for short time. Do these short time places also offer girls if requested?

Also the massage place I ran into last time. And was refused service. I picked up their number. Tried to call but no luck. The lady spoke only Chinese. I think she hung up on me too! The place is on Daye Road, and its number is 28975099 if anyone has better Mandarin speaking abilities. Feel free to report. I peaked in there, and there seemed to be a collection of gals sitting up by the front.

Its looking like Asia World might be the best bet right now. Although it is the most expensive bet.

Any help bros?[/QUOTE]


You really need to just hop on to the Metro and get into the heart of Taipei. Go to Caesars sauna or similar establishments.

Thanks for the heads up ABC Boy.

I guess I'll hit up that area sometime later this week. Maybe Friday.

I decided to bite the bullet early this morning and I called up Yuki's to have a girl sent up. It was about 4.50 AM. She did the regular NT5000 and then I said last time I paid NT3000 and she agreed. Then I tried this trick I read here in the forum, where I said if you send me good looking girl I'll pay NT4000.

At that point she basically told me to choose, she asked me if I wanted to pay NT4000 or NT3000 - "if you pay NT4000 I have to call another girl". Aha! It seems that there is a 'grading' scale - there are NT3000 girls and NT4000 Girls and NT5000 girls; maybe there are girls above that too? Here's the kicker - how do we know she aint passing off the NT3000 level girl and making customers pay NT4000!

Back to the escapade, its been one close to two hours, still no girl. I didn't bother calling back, she mentioned at around 4.50 she was closing up shop for the day. Probably for the best I don't want to get blacklisted at my own hotel.






[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Ahhhh, reminds me of my younger days of hourly hotel hunting. Ok, here goes.

First, be ready to accept the fact that unless you know the pimp really well, you're not getting any goods. They know they got you once you paid for 2 hours (and yes it's 2 hours, not 3, they ripped you.) The best you're going to get is 5 face, 7 body, and pray that she's less than 30 years old. (Now of course if you get lucky and it's a busy night then they will have no choice but send the good ones out, consider then that you hit the lottery, but it's not the norm - which is why I elevated to KTV...)

Second, Xinbeitou is a bad place to monger. The thought is well, hot springs, hot girls, wrong. If you notice those hot springs are primarily for people age 40+ or for family to go and unwind. Not for young people.

Third, the real hourly hotel with action is around the Ximending area. Go to any of those hotels (you'll spot them easily), especially with entrances in the alleys. Walk in, say you need to "rest" (translate that to Chinese), and it's usually two different process.

1) The cashier at the counter will expect you to signal that you want "company" - they will check you out, and decide if you're a true john or an undercover cop. If you are foreigner you are most likely a john. ABC like me tend to get rejected from time to time (another reason I move up to KTV)

2) The braver hourly hotels will just tell you - "go upstairs" when you ask to "rest" - and upon walking up stairs a mysterious person will jump out behind you (expect this), and ask "do you need a girl?" You say "yes" and the bidding begins. They will sucker you to "6000?" Don't ruin it for the rest of us and say yes, say "WHAT! 3000!" They usually smiles (and realize you're a veteran) and say "ok, ok, 3000"

But anyway, expect around age 28-35, face 5-6, body 6-8...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Freakspead]
"do you provide girl with room?" The lady looked in shock at me, she vehemently denied it. I picked up the condom and said, this says you provide a girl. She said no no, we don't provide. So I told her, okay Ill bring my girl with me thats okay. I don't think she got it, and she said I couldn't do that. She kept insisting that if I rent it, it would be only for one person. What would I do for three hours alone lady? She's not a bright one this one. I even tempted her, I told her I'll pay extra if you provide lady. She still denied it - impressive.
[/QUOTE]

Love motels are modeled after the Japanese concept where young couples living with their parents couldnt find a place to play. So they will not provide a girl even though they have a condom (just in case you didnt bring one). But you provide the girl, either GF/wife/lover/fuck buddy/whatever.

They rent on a short term (2 to 3 hours) for what they call a "xiu xi"-literally rest. Usually after 10PM they only rent overnight though there are places that have "xiu xi" even at 2 AM.

I usually call my provider or fuck buddy beforehand and tell her I am going to the hotel. Once i get the room i tell them and they come over and we play. Convinient clean and some of these hotels have outrageous rooms. So next time you go, have your entertainment planned ahead, they only provide the bed...

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]First, be ready to accept the fact that unless you know the pimp really well, you're not getting any goods. They know they got you once you paid for 2 hours (and yes it's 2 hours, not 3, they ripped you.) The best you're going to get is 5 face, 7 body, and pray that she's less than 30 years old. (Now of course if you get lucky and it's a busy night then they will have no choice but send the good ones out, consider then that you hit the lottery, but it's not the norm - which is why I elevated to KTV...)
[/QUOTE]

This goes back to some of my previous posts, if you live here long term then it pays to invest the time to use one provider consistently. After the first time they stop sending you the rejects and old ladies and start sending you the quality goods. I have been the with same provider for about 2 years now and she knows just what I like. She wont always recommend exactly what I want always but at least all the girls she sends are cute, pretty and worth the price.

So like any client-user relationship, time and dedication pay off.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]


Third, the real hourly hotel with action is around the Ximending area.

1) The cashier at the counter will expect you to signal that you want "company" - they will check you out, and decide if you're a true john or an undercover cop. If you are foreigner you are most likely a john. ABC like me tend to get rejected from time to time (another reason I move up to KTV)
..[/QUOTE]


Reminds me of an escape almost 10 years ago.

Hearing that there are young girls in the Xingmending area, I ventured out there around 11 pm. Seemed like all the girls were waiting for someone and there was no "action."

Went to a dinky hotel at like a high floor (like 10th or 12th or something) and saw the reception. Yep...looks dinky and sleezy. Asked for short time to rest and was shown a room. Yep, unopened condome, porn on TV, reddish light and perfect for the cheap and dirty fuck. Waited 20 minutes to see if they'll ask me or whatever the process is. Nothing. Called reception and asked if they offer girls or can get girls. They said No. Asked for company. They said No. Walked around the halls to find anyone who can provide. Nothing.

From that point on, found that Taipei is really dead for the casual monger. Stories of Xingmending and all that fun stuff was officially dead like 15 years ago.

For sure easier said than done. Especially for those guys who only come down for a couple of days and they head back.

I doubt Yuki's or Aiko or Jessica or whoever else is listed in the paper can ever become a regular provider. I mean just based on the sheer number of clientele they deal with.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]This goes back to some of my previous posts, if you live here long term then it pays to invest the time to use one provider consistently. After the first time they stop sending you the rejects and old ladies and start sending you the quality goods. I have been the with same provider for about 2 years now and she knows just what I like. She wont always recommend exactly what I want always but at least all the girls she sends are cute, pretty and worth the price.

So like any client-user relationship, time and dedication pay off.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Freakspead]Thanks for the heads up ABC Boy.

I guess I'll hit up that area sometime later this week. Maybe Friday.

I decided to bite the bullet early this morning and I called up Yuki's to have a girl sent up. It was about 4.50 AM. She did the regular NT5000 and then I said last time I paid NT3000 and she agreed. Then I tried this trick I read here in the forum, where I said if you send me good looking girl I'll pay NT4000.

At that point she basically told me to choose, she asked me if I wanted to pay NT4000 or NT3000 - "if you pay NT4000 I have to call another girl". Aha! It seems that there is a 'grading' scale - there are NT3000 girls and NT4000 Girls and NT5000 girls; maybe there are girls above that too? Here's the kicker - how do we know she aint passing off the NT3000 level girl and making customers pay NT4000!

Back to the escapade, its been one close to two hours, still no girl. I didn't bother calling back, she mentioned at around 4.50 she was closing up shop for the day. Probably for the best I don't want to get blacklisted at my own hotel.[/QUOTE]

There is no such thing as "level" girls, because like you said you can be paying $4000 and she will send you whoever she plans to send you first anyway. The only way to get quality is to get lucky, remember her name, and ask for her directly again.

Please don't play this "I'll pay for quality" trick, it doesn't work.

[QUOTE=Freakspead]For sure easier said than done. Especially for those guys who only come down for a couple of days and they head back.

I doubt Yuki's or Aiko or Jessica or whoever else is listed in the paper can ever become a regular provider. I mean just based on the sheer number of clientele they deal with.[/QUOTE]

Sure I can relate, transient customers will never get the best service from providers. But I didnt get my providers number from the English papers but those numbers on backs of scooters. Definately more local clientel and, once I called her more than once or twice, she started to remember me. She started to remember what type of girl I liked and sometimes I would even give her feedback about the good (or bad) ones. So I might not always get the exact girl that I want, but I usually get quality girls from her.

Hey guys,

I just read this online.

Anyone else hear about this?

[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE55N1OY20090624[/url]

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Sure I can relate, transient customers will never get the best service from providers. But I didnt get my providers number from the English papers but those numbers on backs of scooters. [/QUOTE]


Out of curiosity, have you ever asked your provider (maybe you haven't even seen her?) how she "finds" new customers? Since they don't do the stickers on scooters/cars anymore, how does she "stay in business"? I know it's not something that's openly discussed, but perhaps there's connection to the Sanchong shacks and those numerous KTVs that's not too high-end?


I 've gotten information that in Kaohsiong the short time hotels utilize some local agencies with girls. Sometimes the mommy will tell you she only uses one or the other agency and claims that it's better than the others. Of course, if you like the girl, you can ask what "company" she's part of. One mommy uses this one agency which often sends over ugly girls (used that short time hotel 3 times). Needless to say, that mommy is avoided by me in the future.

I will be in Taiwan in the coming weeks. I was wondering if Caesar's is still open for business. If so, what are the prices for "full service"?

Thanks guys!

Just moved to taiwan for work and am currently working close to the Tao Yuan train station. As a newbie here in Taiwan, I was wondering if there are any spas that offer "special massages". I have gone over most of the forum in the Taipei section, but as I'm not sure on the geography of Taiwan, I'm not sure if I should be looking in the "taipei" forum or other locations forum. I also have a couple of questions.

1) I am just interested in a spa location as being new here, I have to live with my folks' family. Haven't to taiwan since I was 15. There was a post here that stated that I should just take a cab, but I was wondering if there was anything within walking distance. I'm CBC but I can't speak any Chinese so I think it is difficult to communicate with cabbies with regards to directing me to spas with special service.

2) I have been reading that the service for a special massage is approximately $4200 NT at ceasers and Tokyo spa. Is it about the same here? Am I supposed to provide a tip? When in toronto (I'm from canada) the room fee includes the massage, but the HJ/other services required extra tips.

3) if I tip, how much would I tip? I don't want to ruin it for others so I don't want to pay too much for all this, so I was wondering if there are any suggestions.

You can PM me with your information if it is more convenient as I assume it is safer.

Also, I see a lot of posts with an abbreviation SC and I have looked in the abbreviations location and I wanted to confirm that it still means strip club. Some of the contexts didn't make too much sense so I thought I would ask.

[QUOTE=Iceachilles]2) I have been reading that the service for a special massage is approximately $4200 NT at ceasers and Tokyo spa. Is it about the same here? Am I supposed to provide a tip? When in toronto (I'm from canada) the room fee includes the massage, but the HJ/other services required extra tips.[/QUOTE]NO tips required at all, you pay at the cashier when you leave. inside you dont have any money with you anyway, cause in sauna you are naked, or later with kind of pyjama

[QUOTE=Iceachilles]You can PM me with your information if it is more convenient as I assume it is safer.[/QUOTE]most things can be discussed openly in this forum, especially prices, tips etc. no need pm for this information, and it is valuable information for us all.....

[QUOTE=Iceachilles]Also, I see a lot of posts with an abbreviation SC and I have looked in the abbreviations location and I wanted to confirm that it still means strip club. Some of the contexts didn't make too much sense so I thought I would ask.[/QUOTE]SC means "san chong" a city next to taipei on the other side of the river, just over the bridge from the main train station. no any "strip clubs" there.

thomas jefferson, soon back in taiwan, now still in shanghai which is much better and cheaper for us than taipei

[QUOTE=Iceachilles]Just moved to taiwan for work and am currently working close to the Tao Yuan train station. As a newbie here in Taiwan, I was wondering if there are any spas that offer "special massages". I have gone over most of the forum in the Taipei section, but as I'm not sure on the geography of Taiwan, I'm not sure if I should be looking in the "taipei" forum or other locations forum. I also have a couple of questions.

1) I am just interested in a spa location as being new here, I have to live with my folks' family. Haven't to taiwan since I was 15. There was a post here that stated that I should just take a cab, but I was wondering if there was anything within walking distance. I'm CBC but I can't speak any Chinese so I think it is difficult to communicate with cabbies with regards to directing me to spas with special service.

2) I have been reading that the service for a special massage is approximately $4200 NT at ceasers and Tokyo spa. Is it about the same here? Am I supposed to provide a tip? When in toronto (I'm from canada) the room fee includes the massage, but the HJ/other services required extra tips.

3) if I tip, how much would I tip? I don't want to ruin it for others so I don't want to pay too much for all this, so I was wondering if there are any suggestions.

You can PM me with your information if it is more convenient as I assume it is safer.

Also, I see a lot of posts with an abbreviation SC and I have looked in the abbreviations location and I wanted to confirm that it still means strip club. Some of the contexts didn't make too much sense so I thought I would ask.[/QUOTE]
Can't help with specifics on locations in Tao Yuan, but prices should be slightly lower. I do believe Tao Yuan has lots of love motels, and some of the Bing lan girls are avaialable for take out.

The 4200NT is inclusive of everything except food. No tips! Welcome to Asia where tipping is not customary.

SC=San Chong

A quick post re: mongering among the Filipinas.

One thing you learn as you get to know the girls, is how awful some of their employers can treat them. I got to know one girl that was held virtual prisoner in her employers home/place of business. The place was secured with a high-tech system with cameras and codes. If that place was on fire she couldn't get out without someone letting her out. And the employer summarily nullified any days off - she worked essentially 7 days a week. They worked her so hard, this girl in her mid twenties had calloused palms that felt like paws they were so thick. Naturally that relationship couldn't work out.

A neighbor of mine has had a few different maids run away. This business woman tells her maid to do housework for all her friends/extended family, then keeps the payments from these other parties. Then she docks the maid's pay for broken dishes, and other odd 'infractions.' Naturally the maids run away as soon as they have an exit.

But there are alternatives. I've met more than a few 'illegals.' One girl cares for an invalid and her employer wanted to keep her, while cutting expense. So the employer arranged a sham marriage for the maid, in exchange for that maid's long-term service. That is one way of escaping an employment contract.

Another maid works freelance as domestic help. She does very well for herself (and her family) and chooses who she works for and when.

A girl I currently know recently changed employers and has found herself in an unacceptable situation. She's out in the boondocks, working 12 hours a day without AC, including considerable farm work. Fortunately she has found a new assignment caring for elderly and will change employers promptly. Best of all, her work is near me, she will get paid for overtime, and she gets a guaranteed 1 day off per week.

So ... when you are looking for a regular Filipina shag, who she is working for is very important. And there are very attractive options outside of the agency-arranged contracts.

The issue also relates to the 'pay' in P4P. The girls don't necessarily straight-away ask for or expect cash, but they will ask for help making their situations livable. I've run innumerable errands for girls, shuttled them around ... gifts for their mothers and such. A simple fast food lunch goes over well.

It can be a lot of work. But when you find the right girl, and treat her right, rewards can be ... out of this world.

Taiwan's chief of executive announced (on June 25th) that will stop prosecuting prostitution before the end of 2009.

I thought that I already posted this but don't think that I ever got around to coming here.

A few weeks ago, I was out in the Kanding area in the afternoon. The plan was to cruise through there and then over to SC to see what was happening but it was really hot and, as sweaty as I was, I didn't want to think what the girls were like, especially after a few customers. I was thinking that I should leave when I saw a taxi coming down the street and decided to get out of the area and finish for the day. I noticed the taxi was trolling for girls as well and, when I got in, I mentioned something like there 'not being anything outside'. He smiled and said that there hasn't been for many years but he still likes to look.

I asked him where the better girls were and he said if I wanted to take the long route to where I was going, he would show me a few areas to look. I would have to pull out a map to name the precise locations but a few of the highlights:

-he said Ximending didn't have that much but had streetwalkers at night. In between that and Taipei Station were the barbershops I reported on earlier.

-down Kanding and across behind WanHua station are a lot of small alleys that have barbershops. He pointed out one that had a few decent looking girls visible as we went by.

-lots more of the same towards the Yonghe and Zhonghe area (I never know which is which, really). If you have been here for more than five minutes, you know what to spot.

-Linshen area KTVs are no surprise.

-he said that there are numbers you can call where they tell you where to go and the girls are there when you show up. He provided a number and said the girls are good but it sounded a bit like a scam and I haven't tried it. I thought that I read something like that here but, going back a few pages and then searching, I wasn't able to find anything.

Taxis are on every corner of the city and I don't think that I was particularly fortunate in finding this guy. If anybody wants to head out and night and has no idea what is happening I really suggest asking for help. I sort of like the hunt and enjoy walking around but if finding a girl were your primary goal, this probably would be the easiest way to do so.

So I finally did scratch that itch I had. Although it was only so so, it was in itself another adventure. Everything with me is I guess.

Woke up around 1.30 am on Thursday Night / Friday Morning and I thought hey let me call Yuki. I was going to question her about why she sent no girl over the last time, but I sorta let it go and moved on. She agreed to the price of NT3000 and said she would send a young pretty girl within thirty minutes.

Sure enough at 2 am there was a ring on my doorbell and in walked a so-so girl. I would estimate she was about 30-35 years old and not skinny but not heavy either. With a little thickness to her. Which was okay I guess. She didn't speak English, but go by with the keywords of how much I needed to pay her.

We hopped into the shower together and she did a good job of cleaning me. Very thorough. Not only my groin region but back and chest and what have you. There were a couple of things that I didn't like. She was being careless with the water and it was drenching the bathroom. The second thing was she took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] right as she hopped into the shower. Sure you can make the argument its all the same drainage, but man it left a foul odor and I was tip toeing around my shower till it got cleaned that next morning.

We hopped out and I tried asking her if I could take a picture. Thanks to the language barrier, at first I thought she seemed to come around provided I didn't take a picture of her face, but then she just kept insisting that I not take it. Fine whatever.

Instead of starting in the lame regular spot on the bed, I beckoned her over to the sofa where she starting kissing and biting my nipples. I placed her hand on my guy and she started massaging it. After about a few minutes I told her to lay up on the bed and I made way down her body for some DATY. I paid close attention to her vaginal area just to make sure there weren't any unidentified spots or anything (Its not much but its a start right! )

We went at it for a while and she allowed some fingering while I was down there. Not to miss out on the pleasure, we switched over to some 69. I tried fingering her in the ass but she was clenched hard. So I didn't pursue it too much. Just lightly rubbing over her hole. After a while we switched the 69 so that I was on top. I was really getting her going and she started bucking her lower body up and down. We switched to some missionary. And ended the show that way.

I did ask her her name, but for the life of me can't remember it. Overall she was okay looking and her attitude was jovial and always willing to try whatever.

I chuckled a little when I found her basically swallowing the head of the shower hose, cleaning her mouth out after the deed was done.

She got ready and left.

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Hey guys

Been running around Taipei for a while now and feel like I'm getting the hang of it. I'd post some reports but the places I've been to so far are all covered pretty neatly already on here

Got me thinking though, I'm gonna start heading off the beaten track and find hunt around. Are prices at Saunas pretty much the same all round or are the some places that will charge higher? I'm kinda worried I'll go in and end up getting ripped off (as if 4300 isn't already).

If there are some places that seem sketchy but no one's tried them, let me know.

[QUOTE=Billy Tang]Hey guys

Been running around Taipei for a while now and feel like I'm getting the hang of it. I'd post some reports but the places I've been to so far are all covered pretty neatly already on here

Got me thinking though, I'm gonna start heading off the beaten track and find hunt around. Are prices at Saunas pretty much the same all round or are the some places that will charge higher? I'm kinda worried I'll go in and end up getting ripped off (as if 4300 isn't already).

If there are some places that seem sketchy but no one's tried them, let me know.[/QUOTE]

To the well known places in Taipei City, $4300 is the standard price. Some place may charge $4200 and some $4500, but $4300 is pretty standard.

Now, outside of Taipei City, the Taipei county for example, the prices are generally lower. $2500-3000. However, those places tend to more incline to pull tricks on you. Like stealing money from your wallet, or jack up the price when they see you're a foreigner or a rookie monger. Seriously, I'm not joking here. This is why I stay within the Taipei City and very hesistant to go to Taipei county. I hear real stories about those that I just mentioned.

I am a regular reader and occasonal poster on this forum and others. May I respectfully ask where one would likely meet a filipina in Taipei?

Thanks,

RR

[QUOTE=Houziwang]A quick post re: mongering among the Filipinas.

One thing you learn as you get to know the girls, is how awful some of their employers can treat them. I got to know one girl that was held virtual prisoner in her employers home/place of business. The place was secured with a high-tech system with cameras and codes. If that place was on fire she couldn't get out without someone letting her out. And the employer summarily nullified any days off - she worked essentially 7 days a week. They worked her so hard, this girl in her mid twenties had calloused palms that felt like paws they were so thick. Naturally that relationship couldn't work out.

A neighbor of mine has had a few different maids run away. This business woman tells her maid to do housework for all her friends/extended family, then keeps the payments from these other parties. Then she docks the maid's pay for broken dishes, and other odd 'infractions.' Naturally the maids run away as soon as they have an exit.

But there are alternatives. I've met more than a few 'illegals.' One girl cares for an invalid and her employer wanted to keep her, while cutting expense. So the employer arranged a sham marriage for the maid, in exchange for that maid's long-term service. That is one way of escaping an employment contract.

Another maid works freelance as domestic help. She does very well for herself (and her family) and chooses who she works for and when.

A girl I currently know recently changed employers and has found herself in an unacceptable situation. She's out in the boondocks, working 12 hours a day without AC, including considerable farm work. Fortunately she has found a new assignment caring for elderly and will change employers promptly. Best of all, her work is near me, she will get paid for overtime, and she gets a guaranteed 1 day off per week.

So ... when you are looking for a regular Filipina shag, who she is working for is very important. And there are very attractive options outside of the agency-arranged contracts.

The issue also relates to the 'pay' in P4P. The girls don't necessarily straight-away ask for or expect cash, but they will ask for help making their situations livable. I've run innumerable errands for girls, shuttled them around ... gifts for their mothers and such. A simple fast food lunch goes over well.

It can be a lot of work. But when you find the right girl, and treat her right, rewards can be ... out of this world.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exile]-he said that there are numbers you can call where they tell you where to go and the girls are there when you show up. He provided a number and said the girls are good but it sounded a bit like a scam and I haven't tried it. I thought that I read something like that here but, going back a few pages and then searching, I wasn't able to find anything.
[/QUOTE]

A PM from another member reminded me that I read this in ACE's subthread on Taipei.

[QUOTE=Exile]he said that there are numbers you can call where they tell you where to go and the girls are there when you show up. He provided a number and said the girls are good but it sounded a bit like a scam and I haven't tried it. I thought that I read something like that here but, going back a few pages and then searching, I wasn't able to find anything.[/quote]Well, I can confirm there are numbers you can call and the person othe line will direct you to an apartment and do your deed. My local buddy has the connection and experienced himself many times. From What I heard, the girls are decent looking(not sure his standard) and the service is good. I'm just too strap for cash myself due to an upcoming expenses and traveling, however when I get back I'm planning to pay a visit with few buddies. The fee 3000NT per person, 2+ is 2800NT.

[quote=ruff rider]i am a regular reader and occasonal poster on this forum and others. may i respectfully ask where one would likely meet a filipina in taipei?

thanks,

rr[/quote]


the filipinas (also indonesians and vietnamese) are employed throughout the island. if you live here, they are in every neighborhood. nursing homes are staffed with lots of filipinas, and some electronics firms employ younger girls - but the manufacturing facilities are outside taipei proper so the girls don't get into town so often.

best places to meet them are in residential areas - just keep your eyes open as you stroll, make eye contact and smile. also the st. michael's church area of zhongshan district on sunday - this is taipei's filipino town so hundreds will gather and mingle for and after sunday services. for many, sunday is also their only day off. there are even some small dance clubs here that make it easier to meet.

one good way is to ask the first girl you meet for an introduction to a suitable mate. the girls are dependent on their peer network, and help each other out at every opportunity. generous suitors are a prized catch, so an introduction is a big win for whoever she introduces you to. simply by asking for an introduction, you've done that girl a big favor in that the girl she introduces will be indebted.

one might also scan dia and friendster websites for filipinas posted in taiwan - i've met a couple this way. this is a good way to screen because any ofw that has the freedom to post online, most likely has the freedom to entertain a suitor.

[QUOTE=Houziwang] The issue also relates to the 'pay' in P4P. The girls don't necessarily straight-away ask for or expect cash, but they will ask for help making their situations livable ...[/QUOTE]

One thing I really like about mongering among the working girls, is that I know any compensation I provide goes directly to supporting her family back in Phils, where we all know conditions can be quite destitute. On the other hand, a cut of money spent with Yuki or in SC funds the Taiwan mafia, subsidizing activities that many here would deplore: dogfighting, illegal fishing, blackmail, who knows what else. I've called Yuki perhaps a dozen times, and had some forays in SC and Keelung, but it has always troubled me where that money was going. Someone posted recently that President Ma has said prostitution will not be prosecuted after 2009. That could be great, in my view, in that it could open up the local freelance market and allow mongers to bypass the mob. Here's for hoping ....

I was in the Taipei Main Station area - specifically that long mall connected to the main station (not the underground mall - the one with the Y lettered exits)

The place was crawling with Indonesians - male / female / families etc. ANd it was sunday, this was the second time I've been in the area on Sunday and just seen Indonesians all over the place.

Not sure if any of them are up for a little romp - I don't have 'tthat look' i guess? But maybe anyone else has any experience? Are the indonesians up for a little extra curricular activities?

[QUOTE=Houziwang]One thing I really like about mongering among the working girls, is that I know any compensation I provide goes directly to supporting her family back in Phils, where we all know conditions can be quite destitute. On the other hand, a cut of money spent with Yuki or in SC funds the Taiwan mafia, subsidizing activities that many here would deplore: dogfighting, illegal fishing, blackmail, who knows what else. I've called Yuki perhaps a dozen times, and had some forays in SC and Keelung, but it has always troubled me where that money was going. Someone posted recently that President Ma has said prostitution will not be prosecuted after 2009. That could be great, in my view, in that it could open up the local freelance market and allow mongers to bypass the mob. Here's for hoping ....[/QUOTE]

I feel the same way.

In addition to what Houziwang posted, take a stroll through any park, especially those in residential areas. If you happen to go out before 7AM, anybody under 65 is usually domestic help.

On 29th after visiting a friend in Keelung, I decided to cruise the so called "Railroad Street", the red light streets. Last time I visited here was '06. Only one fuckable available then. I dated her twice and then lost interest.
Now I saw 4 or 5 fuckables in their 20s, although still lots of old ladies there. The alley by the railroad got some young girls. Quality is not good in another alley. I was sweat and tired but definitely worthy to give it fuck someday.
On 30th I went back there. All the fuckables I saw yesterday were not at the scene. Only 2 or 3 fuckables then. I chose a 5'7", 7 look, OK body (not too fat not too skinny) white skin color mid 20s girl. The room's condition is pretty much like SanChong Tofu House, just big enough for a mattress. She brought a basin and used a wet towel to clean my body. She did very good slow BJ and ball licking, and then she asked me to stand up so she could perform real good deep throat.
She cried "Oh...fuck...Ah...fuck me...Oh..." and that made my bro harder and bigger and penetrate deeper, but I was going slow in order to get "me love you long time" service. She did not rush me at all.
After the pump, she sit down and we chatted a little bit. She lived in Taipei. Just like the girl I dated here in '06. They don't want to do wh#re business near home. She would leave around 10 pm to catch the last bus (about 10:30), the same as that '06 girl.
Such a good deep throat BJ/ball licking, "me love you long time" service for NT$1000 is a pretty good deal. Just remember the last train back to Taipei is 11:35 pm at Keelung station. In fact, SanKeng railroad station, one stop before Keelung station, is closer for walking to Railroad Street.

Intrigued by Hammer_g's post about taoyuan station, I hopped on my scooter and headed down there about. After going down every single alley I could find for a little over an hour, I was only able to find one place that seemed like a sauna, but offered "specials". There was about 5 people in front including 3 guys who look like valets leaving a short man and old fat lady as possible touts/pimps. There was a sign advertising 2000NT/person, but not knowing what that entailed, I continued on in search of streetwalkers. I did notice a lot of shady (read: mongering hotels), but after recent posts about how many hotels don't offer entertainment anymore, I passed those by as well. The whole time, I saw only one possible girl as she was dressed like she was going clubbing and was just sitting on a scooter. This was across the street from the Tonglin dept store and after grabbing a snack at mickeyD's, it became clear that she was just waiting for her bf who worked at the video arcade.

So my question is. Where abouts northwest or northeast of Taoyuan station are these alleys? Northwest is where I saw the sauna and a bunch of hotels, but not streetwalkers. Northeast, as in the other side of the train tracks where its dark and 99% residential, I didn't see anything but old ladies and their food stalls. Like iceachilles, I am staying with family nearby, but as an abc, I can't read, but can speak decently. Usually hard to explain heading out for a few hours late on a weeknight when I don't really have any friends here in Taiwan, yet. I now have a few days off as they are off visiting other family members and want to get to know the area a little better. I have been to SC about 5 or 6 times and just looking for a something a little different. Plus, 15 mins does really suck and their beds are usually too hard. Hurts my knees.

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I don't live in TaoYuan. Just know how to get there but I couldn't locate those alleys on google map. Next time when I visit there, I'll remember the street names.

Being as I am a CBC (the Canadian counter-part of an ABC), I can't read a lick of english as well. I visited a sauna and was disappointed when it was legit. I wasn't sure how to ask the guy if there were special massages as he didn't speak a lick of english. I ended up spending $800 for just a nice massage. Thus, I was wondering if anyone could provide me with some information on a sauna.

I read on the forum that I should just hop in a cab and ask the person to take me somewhere. apparently, that doesn't always work as he doesn't speak a lick of english and when ended up taking me to a foot massage place. Again, I don't think Taiwanese people get laid in the open while they get their feet massage, so I just gave up and went home. Is there anything I should be looking for? Any visible sign? I'm also not sure on the north east south west locations so I'm not sure where the legit place was, but it was about 5 min from train station.

I saw a location right by the NOVA and was wondering if that was offering special massages and if they do, which floor do they provide it at. Again, pm me if you know the details. I know that there are bars there, but not sure of any massage places.

Don't want to try the hotels as they look very shady and run down, but that is a personal opinion.

Take the train to the Nanjing E Road Station (its on the Muzha/Brown line)

When you alight there, check out the nifty maps that are hung on the wall. Look for Asia World

Go to the 15th floor.

[QUOTE=Iceachilles]Being as I am a CBC (the Canadian counter-part of an ABC), I can't read a lick of english as well. I visited a sauna and was disappointed when it was legit. I wasn't sure how to ask the guy if there were special massages as he didn't speak a lick of english. I ended up spending $800 for just a nice massage. Thus, I was wondering if anyone could provide me with some information on a sauna.

I read on the forum that I should just hop in a cab and ask the person to take me somewhere. apparently, that doesn't always work as he doesn't speak a lick of english and when ended up taking me to a foot massage place. Again, I don't think Taiwanese people get laid in the open while they get their feet massage, so I just gave up and went home. Is there anything I should be looking for? Any visible sign? I'm also not sure on the north east south west locations so I'm not sure where the legit place was, but it was about 5 min from train station.

I saw a location right by the NOVA and was wondering if that was offering special massages and if they do, which floor do they provide it at. Again, pm me if you know the details. I know that there are bars there, but not sure of any massage places.

Don't want to try the hotels as they look very shady and run down, but that is a personal opinion.[/QUOTE]

Didn't call Yukis. Tried some of the other numbers.

Soon discovered that alot of them are basically the same people

Called Judy and Jessica & Wendy. They were the same people.

Tried my luck at getting LT. But they all quoted prices in the teens and twenty thousands. Basically every hour left in the day times the going rate!

Finally just called Julia. Who, yes, was the same as Judy.

Told her to send me a young girl. 20 or 21.

Thirty five minutes later. At my door shows up one of the BEST looking WG thus far. Her name was Pau Pau.

She was super super super GFE too.complimenting me on my looks and being all huggy and kissy. It was really a pleasant surprise.

After the festivities we sat down and she did something of a massage and we chatted. She was being all coy to my questions about whether she made good money here, why she didn't do a job whether she goes to college etc. It was quite a game. And I had fun playing it.

Turns out she's 23 and fully educated. To me it seems that this job is sorta her quick money option but more than that she was all about having sex. She really had the CFM look.

Didn't agree to take a picture. I shoulda taken her digits afterwards. But oh well.

Still a good experience. Treat her well if you indulge.

[QUOTE=Freakspead]Didn't agree to take a picture. I shoulda taken her digits afterwards.[/QUOTE]What, chopped her fingers off for not agreeing to photos? (Well, that's how I read it first time!)

Have tried to call my regular provider for the last week but keep on getting the "phone not turned on" voice prompt. Either she got busted for using China girls or the competition got her. Dont know what happened but will keep trying for the time being. So sorry brothers if I cannot refer u to her anymore.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Have tried to call my regular provider for the last week but keep on getting the "phone not turned on" voice prompt. Either she got busted for using China girls or the competition got her. Dont know what happened but will keep trying for the time being. So sorry brothers if I cannot refer u to her anymore.[/QUOTE]That is too bad Rag. I hope she is ok. And I was planning to call her this week too! Do you have any other suggestion? PM me if you do.

Big Bro X

[QUOTE=Dailo13]Intrigued by Hammer_g's post about taoyuan station, [/QUOTE]
I got a chance to stop by TaoYuan and checked the street names.
The street in front of TaoYuan train station is JungJeng Rd. Going straight on JungJeng Rd (Northbound) for 4 blocks you will see a Chinese temple in the middle of the road. Turn left and go on JungShan Rd (westbound). Walk one block to hit MinChiaun Rd. Turn left (MinChiaun Rd southbound) and you see street walkers there. I saw only some "35 and up" aunties here. The only girl in 20s is obese. "A May", the dressed-to-kill juicy pussy girl looked like those work in steep-priced clubs where you loose an arm and a leg for a fuck, was not here.

If you turn right at JungShan+MinChiaun (MinChiaun Rd northbound), the first alley on your left, Alley 99 MinChiaun Rd, you will see a red light living room open to the public. I haven't found any fuckable in this house. There wee 3 or 4 houses at alley 99 in '07 . Now only one.

Instead of turning left at the Chinses temple, you turn right on JungShan Rd westbound. Next signal light you turn left (MinSheng Rd northbound). keep looking at right side of the street. Alley 330 MinSheng Rd got several open red light houses inside.

Keep going northbound on MinSheng Rd. Only 20 yards more you will hit Heping Rd. Turn right and 10 yards away , Alley 28 Heping Rd would be on your left. Several houses in this curved alley. Walking out of this alley and turn right on Gunglion St, by the park/river, another two houses there.

Most of the working girls here are 30+ aunties but you see a few in 20s. I saw 3 fuckables. One 20ish girl got a 9 face but a kind of short, about 5'3". One great leggy in her early 30s. One late 20s looked fine but she sit deep inside the living room. I couldn't take a good look. If not for the last train to Taipei at 23:47, I definetey would give it (one of them) a fuck.

2 am Sunday night on the way back home, I stopped by KanDing Rd for a look. Police heavily present on streets, motorcycle or foot patrol, perhaps due to TV news had reported about this neighborhood, but the pigeons were not arresting anybody. Ladies hid into alleys while pigeons getting close. Fewer ladies than usual but still lots of aunties and grandmas. I saw two girls in 20s. One face 6 body 3, and one face 3 body 6.
Just before ready to leave, I saw a 20ish, face 8 body 8, girl wearing very short paints/high heels talking on cell phone and walked quickly on GuiLing RD (one block north of KanDing+GuiLing) . I was wondering if she is one of the hookers. I stood there to watch.
She was not going to certain direction but walked around in circles at that block. I noticed that she would turn to another direction if pigeons were toward her. She was always on cell phone but kept away from cops. Definitely a hooker.
For these low cost places (from hundreds to 1.5K. Two ladies in TaoYuan quoted NT500 and 700 but I was not interested) KanDing Rd, TaoYuan open houses, Keelung open houses.
My verdict :
You would find 3 to 5 fuckables at TaoYuan or Keelung. You are lucky to see one fuckable on KanDing Rd.
You will find more fuckables in SanChong Tofu houses but lots of hassle from mamasan/pimp if you leave the house without a fuck.

I choose open house because I got plenty of time to decide which girl makes me hornier.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]2 am Sunday night on the way back home, I stopped by KanDing Rd for a look. Police heavily present on streets, motorcycle or foot patrol, perhaps due to TV news had reported about this neighborhood, but the pigeons were not arresting anybody. Ladies hid into alleys while pigeons getting close. Fewer ladies than usual but still lots of aunties and grandmas. I saw two girls in 20s. One face 6 body 3, and one face 3 body 6.
Just before ready to leave, I saw a 20ish, face 8 body 8, girl wearing very short paints/high heels talking on cell phone and walked quickly on GuiLing RD (one block north of KanDing+GuiLing) . I was wondering if she is one of the hookers. I stood there to watch.
She was not going to certain direction but walked around in circles at that block. I noticed that she would turn to another direction if pigeons were toward her. She was always on cell phone but kept away from cops. Definitely a hooker.
For these low cost places (from hundreds to 1.5K. Two ladies in TaoYuan quoted NT500 and 700 but I was not interested) KanDing Rd, TaoYuan open houses, Keelung open houses.
My verdict :
You would find 3 to 5 fuckables at TaoYuan or Keelung. You are lucky to see one fuckable on KanDing Rd.
You will find more fuckables in SanChong Tofu houses but lots of hassle from mamasan/pimp if you leave the house without a fuck.

I choose open house because I got plenty of time to decide which girl makes me hornier.[/QUOTE]

Ok, in the bad economy I think next time I'm in Taiwan I will try these instead of the KTVs.

Went out for a cruise last night. Taking the train to TaoYuan was 30 min. Nothing interesting at JungShan+MinChiaun. A police car, roof lightbar on, parked at Alley 330 MinSheng Rd. All the houses in that area closed. After 15 min the police left. All houses reopened but fewer ladies than usual, and nothing interested me.
Took the train back to Taipei. First checked out SanChong. Not so many pimps around the area but available. When I was waiting for the green light, a pimp (she knew me) walked 25 yards (business slow?) to my back and called me. I told her "Just passing through". She is OK but some pimps would say shit "Don't come here anymore !" to you if leave without a fuck. Sometimes you know that girl is pretty OK but simply not your type. Each guy is turned on by different female body parts.
KanDing Rd back to normal but only aunties & grandmas here tonight. It was a disappointment. Frankly I don't hold out much hope for KanDing Rd anyway.
I went back home with money in my wallet for the next safari.
When I was young I could fuck anything that moves but getting older is not so horny anymore.

I'd like to make a correction. Now the success rate is :
KeeLung > TaoYuan > KanDing Rd (almost zero)

This request or question would be for HammerG or any other guy currently in Taipei. At another "private forum" from my home city in California, a guy posted a year ago about this place in Taiwan were they had AMAZING girls. The price was cheap and the place and girls were fantastic. Now, It seems to good to be true but I trust this guy since he had written reviews of local girls and they are legit.

Again, this was posted 1 year ago exactly, the place is called TAIPEI YAFU. From what he mentioned, they were about to go to new ownership and was not sure if the services would stay the same. BUT according to him the prices were as follows:

$40/2 hours = 1 girl

$80/2 hours = 2 girls

This is in USD but again, from what I saw, he hired 2 girls and paid each 100 USD which included TIP. So I am assuming its $40 USD per hour for 1 girl.

Anyway, he gave an elaborate review which due to the privacy of the forum, I will not write here. But what he described was great. He provided a phone number.

886-223-933-355

Now, My request to some of the guys in Taiwan is if you can call this number and ask for an address. See if they can provide details of the service like prices, etc. AND IF. Again, IF you feel like having an adventure. Go check out the place out. Specifically the girls. See if they still provide full service with the new ownership.

In 2 weeks I will be traveling down there and if this place is legit like I assume it is, I might be able to have some fun after all. Hope one of you guys can call.

Later

Galaxxxy69

I've called the number 2393-3355. 886 is Taiwan country code. 2 is Taipei area code.
It is a massage parlor. NT$2,500 for 2 hours massage. They wouldn't tell me anymore on the phone. Looks like going to be expensive for full service and not really got too many girls to choose.

Hammer_G,

Thanks for the info! I know exactly where you are talking about in Taoyuan, but I always thought they were day markets and nothing else after. Tomorrow/today is Saturday and I think its time for a little stroll. Will report back on what I found.

The place(s) above Nova across the street from Taoyuan station all seem like high end nightclubs. I have been to the lobby of every single one. I was trying to take the elevator to the 2nd floor of Nova and apparently, once the clubs see someone taking the lift, they press the call button for the lift so it stops on their floor. I spotted a couple of girls during an apparent shift change and they are H-A-W-T. Yes, that hot. Thus, I'm sure its more than I want to spend on this type of activity. Anyone with deep pockets try out one of these places before?

Go into Alley 330 MinSheng Rd, the 2nd house on your right got young girls, no aunties or grandmas. The mamasan is in her late 20s or early 30s. That's what I saw last time.

Hi,

I'll be at Taipei soon and Iwant only good massage with good happy ending.

So, I read all the forum, and I saw there are only two alternatives for good massage+hj.

1- Ceaser Sauna, 2-Tokyo Sauna

Is there another alternative for it ? There are a lot of saunas and massage place in Taepei, and I assume no special at there even a hj! Right?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]I've called the number 2393-3355. 886 is Taiwan country code. 2 is Taipei area code.

It is a massage parlor. NT$2,500 for 2 hours massage. They wouldn't tell me anymore on the phone. Looks like going to be expensive for full service and not really got too many girls to choose.[/QUOTE]Hey Hammer, Thank you for the info. I would like to ask you for another favor if possible. Can you get the address and again if possible, the closest MRP station name of were they are?

Thank you sooooooo much for your help bro!

A follow-up to some of my earlier comments.

I suspect a lot of us are not aware of how the local mob ropes girls into this business. Here in Taiwan debts are still passed on from generation to generation - by statute. For example if your father runs up a debt and then dies, the debt legally falls to his wife, then his children, then his brothers, sisters nieces, nephews, whoever else is next in line. (This is my understanding - if someone has something FACTUAL to add, please do.)

This is how the mob ropes girls into the sex trade, and milks their earnings. Mob runs gambling rackets - we all know how much Chinese love to gamble. Chicken fighting, dog fighting, numbers, sports betting ... you can find it. The mob lets gamblers run up huge debts because they intend to eventually put the debt on the family - collecting from solvent relatives, and putting the girls to work.

I almost never go to KTVs, but the last time I went I met a ~19 year old girl. She told me she was working off a debt run up by her father. She doesn't do FS takeout, but was ready to discuss all other arrangements. She told me she has a boyfriend that wants to marry her, but they are both broke and cannot afford to be independent. In a nutshell, she was looking for a sugar-daddy that would leave her hymen intact. Those gates will fall, I am certain.

You see here clearly how it works. The girl isn't forced per-say, but she is basically pushed onto the path by a business enterprise that operates outside the law. More accurately, a business enterprise that writes law! The mob has (or had?) active members elected to the national legislature here. Oftentimes these are the guys you see punching women legislators in film clips of Taiwan's congress.

This just goes to underscore my suggestion that it is better to procure from truly independent freelancers. A great market for this is the population of Philipino/Tha/Indonesian/Vietnamese maids, elder care, nannies, and factory workers. It is a lot more work, but GFE is much better, and is generally much, much cheaper in dollars and cents.

Hi everybody!

I am new in the forum, and I was reading all your advices. Thank you very much! I have a doubt now, hammerg, about that place you told in Minsheng East Rd. Which section?

And what is more or less the budget?

Thanks in advance!

How is everyone doing? I will be in Taiwan as of Sunday morning. will be there all week and going back home on Friday. Anyone in town next week?

[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69]How is everyone doing? I will be in Taiwan as of Sunday morning. will be there all week and going back home on Friday. Anyone in town next week?[/QUOTE]Hey Galaxxxy69,

Let us know how it goes for you at the "massage" place that you want to check out. I am curious as to what they offer. Or is it pretty much the same as Caesar's?

Big Bro X

Just wondering what our illustrious leader Rag is up to these days. Tried anything new? Any news on your old provider?

It has been a bit more active here, but many people are new, and it would be nice to have those with more experience chime in.

Big Bro X

[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69]Hey Hammer, Thank you for the info. I would like to ask you for another favor if possible. Can you get the address and again if possible, the closest MRP station name of were they are?

Thank you sooooooo much for your help bro![/QUOTE]
No.15, Sec 1, East HePing Rd.

Does this place still exist? I would like to check it out. Please can you give me the address or directions to this place?

[QUOTE=Macho Dik]Yesterday, feel bored staying inside the house for the freezing wheather. feeling horny again and beat the cold freeze temp. went to our favorite site, select a not really cute but with a C cup boobs, offered for a thai wash....what the heck, price is accpetable for 40 mins of good sex and warm water shower...why not. ok, go to actions, the girls name is e-e (in chinese like 1-1), what the fuck, she has the same names as to the one I shagged with fake boobs on the other shack. ok, we both undress, she turn on the shower and wait till water getting hot then start to cleanned me first then ask me to lying face down, pour liquid soaps and using her C or D cup boobs start rubbing my whole body, I can feel the pubic hairs of her also rubbing my butt, then she use her p*ssy to rub my tigh, legs and also my back by sitting position, then ask me to turn side and keep rubbing my chest with her boobs and then also her p*ssy. she then continue pouring some liquid soaps into my cocks then planning to insert it inside of her where, I suddenly ask her to stop, as I don't. want Bareback then, she told me, don't. worry she is clean and free of diseases, she told me that she is feeling very horny.....well I was almost convince and they way I look at her, she should be ok...but , my brain alert me again....choose between few minutes of insane or will start worrying afterwards, so I said, we play more, then start to play her tits and she wash out the sopas in my cocks and start sucking it with combinations of warm water inside her mouth....gosh this is amasing, then she licks my balls and rimmed my assholes, wow, this lady is something diff. I cleanned her back and p*ssy and start giving her a payback of what she did for me, she almost getting crazy and keep asking me to get inside of her, grabbed a condom and start shagging her doggie positions, where she spread it wide for me then finished it in missionary positions. we cleanned outself again and she give me further BJ with my cums still there. she is really amasing. I learned she is from PRC and come to taiwan after marrying an old taiwanese businessman. she is the factory worker of her decease old husband then. she just came back from last week vacation to china.

Well this is what I can share for now.

cheers.


MD[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amingzzu]Does this place still exist? I would like to check it out. Please can you give me the address or directions to this place?[/QUOTE]

Do a general search of the Taipei forum with the keyword "SC" or "San Chong" and you will see what we mean. Them come back with specific questions. But these places have been pretty well documented by MD and myself as well as many other brothers.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]No.15, Sec 1, East HePing Rd.[/QUOTE]
A mistake. It should be
No.15, Sec 1, West HePing Rd.

I meant this one that offers Thai bath. I would love to check it out sometime. I will be driving by the way, it would be nice if there were directions to the place.

[QUOTE=WindWalker]Thanks to AG and Rag's graphic details of their adventures in San Chong, I could no longer resist the temptation and check out the place myself. I have drove over to check out the place several times in the past but never had the desire to stop by. I arrived around 11 PM and parking was very difficult to find. There were many uncles and aunties out in the open for you to approach them. You can't miss them as they just stand out especially that late in the night. When I drove by during the day, they weren't as noticeable.

Anyway, had no choice but to park on Huang He Rd right underneath and Zhong Xiao Bridge. Was going to head towards the park, when I was approached by an uncle hidden in the shadow of the bridge. I ended up going with him as during my 3rd time circling the park looking for a parking space, I noticed a police patrol car and all the uncles and aunties around the area disappeared. Didn't feel like being busted so I followed this uncle south of the bridge.(The park is north of the bridge.) Btw, I asked the uncle about the patrol car and chances of getting busted, he assured me it's simply a charade. Police just wanted to show general public that they are patroling the area but won't really make any arrests.

As we walked south right along the contruction fence, the uncle asked me whether I wanted the quickie or Thai bath. I was like "Thai bath? Here in Taipei? Are the girls well trained??? It ain't going to be good if the girls aren't trained" He assured me they are trained. After making several twist and turns ( trust me, the first time you have to be guided by an uncle or auntie, there's no way you can find the place without one.), we ended up in front of a row house situated in the triangle formed by the Zhong Xiao Bridge, Huang He N Rd, and Quan Zhou St.

There was only one girl available. The auntie told me she's a hot 20, I am thinking "well, not hot, but like a 6... and no way 20, but at least like 25..." Whadda hell, I was excited about finding Thai bath service in Taipei to look for another shack.

The girl turned out to be 28. She's petite and tight. I noticed shack girls don't seem to use lubricant like the sauna girls do. The bath service is so so but can't complain for $2.6k. (In Taichung, you got to pay $3k though the girls are better trained) No massage after body shampoo and went straight to 3rd and 4th base.

Overall, very good value for your money. Especially for Taipei. I would repeat. The uncle gave me a business card and told me to call ahead next time. He will set me up with a girl who can provide better bath experience. Funny thing is, the title of the card said "Chicken Farm".

Btw, headed over to Formosa BBS on Nanjing Section 5 before heading home .( On the north side right before the on ramp of McArthur Bridge) Legit massage. No special. However, I know that the one next to Sherwood Hotel, 123 BBS on Nanjing (section 3?) between Jianguo and Fuxing got to have special. Will try that one next time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]A mistake. It should be No.15, Sec 1, West HePing Rd.[/QUOTE]Thanks Hammer,

I will check it out none the less and see if what I heard is true or simply a massage place.

Probably more than a message. They have quoted my friend 3k to 4k NT$.

I'm in Taipei now. I will go later today and report back

The place looks nice. Got valet parking. But over my budget.

Was there yesterday. They said they had no special massage. That sucks. I still believe they do provide that but only to locals. Headed over to Ceasars. Its a cool place. Got a girl called Shiao ming. Or better yet.#67. I asked for #68 as previously reviewed here. But she was not in. This girl was ok. Everything coverd. No BJ with tea. I wanted to try that. Jaja. But overall it was good. The whole experience is VERY relaxing.

Was at Minchuan rd yesterday. Started looking around, and found a place. Standard 3000 NT for the service. The lady was early thirties, provided a massage first and then got down. Everything was covered and they provide the hot tea CBJ. The location itself was a little shady. 3 floors and the washroom was kinda. Dirty. The rooms were very small. One single bed and that was it. Not impressed. Should try Ceasars except too far. Will try next time I guess.

seems the economy is still pretty bad, my provider kept on telling me of girls who now go for 4K who used to go for 6k or 7K. At first i was skeptical since i have found the girls attititude counts for a lot more than looks. But my 19 year old stood me up so i decided why the hell not. I was not disappointed.

She was tall about 170 and quite pretty. Right away we hit it off, she seemed very much at ease with me and we talked quite naturally. She gave me a long, passionate BBBJ all the while shooting me smoking looks with her sexy eyes. Sex was ok (never quite sure if her moans were real or fake) but seeing that long beautiful body underneath me made me cum even harder than i usually do. I could tell she enjoyed it too.

After wiping me off she gave me a pleasant surprise. Noticing that i was still hard she proceeded to give me a better cleaning with another BBBJ, man now that is a great touch!!We had a quite pleasant chat after and she left about 10 min later. As advertised, 4K for everything and worth every penny.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]seems the economy is still pretty bad, my provider kept on telling me of girls who now go for 4K who used to go for 6k or 7K. At first i was skeptical since i have found the girls attititude counts for a lot more than looks. But my 19 year old stood me up so i decided why the hell not. I was not disappointed.

She was tall about 170 and quite pretty. Right away we hit it off, she seemed very much at ease with me and we talked quite naturally. She gave me a long, passionate BBBJ all the while shooting me smoking looks with her sexy eyes. Sex was ok (never quite sure if her moans were real or fake) but seeing that long beautiful body underneath me made me cum even harder than i usually do. I could tell she enjoyed it too.

After wiping me off she gave me a pleasant surprise. Noticing that i was still hard she proceeded to give me a better cleaning with another BBBJ, man now that is a great touch!!We had a quite pleasant chat after and she left about 10 min later. As advertised, 4K for everything and worth every penny.[/QUOTE]Can you provide info of how to contact this girl or where she works?

Also, I'm looking for a BBBJ at Ceasars, who would any one of you recomend after 9pm. I will probably head out there on Thursday night but want recomendations. I want someone preferably young and Hot of course.

[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69]Can you provide info of how to contact this girl or where she works?

Also, I'm looking for a BBBJ at Ceasars, who would any one of you recomend after 9pm. I will probably head out there on Thursday night but want recomendations. I want someone preferably young and Hot of course.[/QUOTE]

PM me your phone number and I can pass it on to my provider so she can call you. Can you speak chinese? If not she does not deal with foreigners. No promises if the girl will give you the same level of "service", from my experience it all comes down to how the feel about you.

I get BBBJ at Ceasars from certain girls but that is because I do the same girl more than once. Had one girl that did a reverse BBBJ while begging me to finger her pussy, man she was a screamer... She even went out again to get the extra thin condoms (003 type)because she said she wanted to feel more of me ;-) But again it comes down to how well the girl gets along with you. If they like you or have seen you more than once, then they are much more willing to give you GFE.

p.s. the girl was neither young nor "hot", if you are looking for those in Ceasers, then you are barking up the wrong tree. what she lacked in age she made up for in technique, enthusiasm and one tight pussy ;-)

[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69]...at Ceasars...[/QUOTE]
Could you give me the address (or phone ) of Ceasars ?? I'd like to check it out.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]Could you give me the address (or phone ) of Ceasars ?? I'd like to check it out.

Thanks[/QUOTE]#337 Nanjing E. Rd. On top of Asiaworld shopping mall.

There were many Thai style service houses in that area in good old days. I'll check their inventory.

What is wrong with this forum? No one is posting anymore.

I haven't played the field so much anymore since I have a regular paybee (AG's phrase) and a super hot freebie, but what about all the other brothers?

This place gets less action than the Uzbekistan forum....lets show the board what mongers are like in Taipei.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]What is wrong with this forum? No one is posting anymore. This place gets less action than the Uzbekistan forum....lets show the board what mongers are like in Taipei.[/QUOTE]Mongering in Taipei is like starting a fire with a wet log. I appreciate you keeping us positive, but Taipei must be the worst major city in Asia for hobbyists. However, there is finally a ray of hope. As mentioned, Taiwan is decriminalizing prostitution. There will be red light districts as early as 2010, and they claim to be lightening up during the transition (has anyone seen any evidence of this?). Here are some newspaper articles with details.

[url]http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2009/08/05/2003450386[/url]
[url]http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2009/07/10/2003448261[/url]

We can only hope this leads to greater supply, better selection, lower prices, hotter/younger wenches, improved working conditions, healthier happier hookers, etc. Keep the faith...

-E Z

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]Mongering in Taipei is like starting a fire with a wet log ...[/QUOTE]

Straight up. Local conditions are so stark, and Manila/PRC are only short flights away. To any visitors who ask, I simply recommend keeping their powder dry for a trip to those other locations.

For those of us based here, I would suggest it makes the most sense to 'settle in' with 1-2 regular providers of one sort or another.

I've got a nice Filipina gf who has just secured a new employer. Now she will be free on most weekends for an overnight. I'll put her up in an inexpensive hotel and then partake at my convenience over that ~24hr period. Not something really worth posting about on a regular basis.

Like E Z said, perhaps conditions will change. It'll take some time though ...

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]Mongering in Taipei is like starting a fire with a wet log. I appreciate you keeping us positive, but Taipei must be the worst major city in Asia for hobbyists. However, there is finally a ray of hope. As mentioned, Taiwan is decriminalizing prostitution. There will be red light districts as early as 2010, and they claim to be lightening up during the transition (has anyone seen any evidence of this?). Here are some newspaper articles with details.

[url]http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2009/08/05/2003450386[/url]
[url]http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2009/07/10/2003448261[/url]

We can only hope this leads to greater supply, better selection, lower prices, hotter/younger wenches, improved working conditions, healthier happier hookers, etc. Keep the faith...

-E Z[/QUOTE]


Lets all hope.

But most hookers dont want to go legit, you have to pay taxes and many are "part-time" (like my paybee). And many still dont want to be labeled as such. Anyways heres hoping that it passes and supply gets better.

I tend to disagree that legaization will have a negative impact.

1. People suggling will decrease. There are a great number of Chinese females smuggled here to enter the sex trade. They are kept virtual prisoners and the police bust these rings on a routine basis.

2. Disease will decrease. In those areas of the world where prostitution is legalized and controlled, desease decreases. Last I read, Las Vegas sex trade has never had a sigle incidence of AIDS acquired in the legal industry. Monthly health checks should be required to maintain the license.

3. Taxes will increase. True, prices may increase but I really don't think so. As competition increases, more women will enter the trade as there are many many single or poor working mothers here with a minimum wage of about 80 NT per hour.competition will more than make up for the increase in price due to the tax.

4. Police corruption will decrease. There are many, perhaps thousands, of illegal brothel/KTV establishments in Taipei County alone. Anybody who has lived here has seen the paddy wagon and 20 police on scoots raid a KTV. 1/2 hour later, BMWs and Benzes start pulling up with women carrying in bags. Obvious to me that it was a payoff, especially when all the police mount up and depart a short time later. This happens on a regular basis. Perhaps the reduction in payoffs will more than make up for the increase in taxes.

INMHO

BTW, Many of you may know that the sex trade used to be legal in Taiwan. In 1997, when Abien (President Chen) was mayor of Taipei, he gave the industry 2 years to re-train for a 1999 law making it illegal. In 1999, the law too effect but he was the President and expanded the law to all of Taiwan. It was pretty un-regulated back then and problems existed. He is currently awaiting trial on corruption charges. Large mixed opinion here about his current incarceration. I say "follow the money".
About 2 months ago when the new KMT President Ma joined with some of the trade groups and other organizations to legalize it again, he said he would let the people of an area decide if they wanted the trade in their particular areas. He also ordered that police stop harrassing the girls. Also, here, police from one "precinct" can go into another to make busts. If they do, they get extra points on their career record. This was supposed to reduce corruption. It didn't. Now they have been ordered to not stray from their "precint" for making arrests in the sex trade. No extra points.
Also, previously, only the girls got arrested. The guy walked. Now, with the new policy of non-harrassment, pending the new legislation, things have calmed down and it is more open than before. Still illegal but with a more tolerant view. The guy still walks even in the event of an arrest of the girl.

NIMBYs will abound I sure. But I think we will see it legalized in South Taipei County, Banciao and Tuchen. Probably also over in the industrial area of Wogu and Linkou, due to the high number of blue collars. The traditional areas prior to 1999 also remember the "good old days" of high traffic tourism and will also probably allow it. In particular the Lungshan (Snake Alley) and Combat Zone areas.

I tried several massages that would make you think they offer extra service (on linsen or chanchun)

BUT they don't!

Price are all from 2000 to 2500 for 2H

Girls depends on the place. But 99% won't even offer a HJ.

Went to a place with ugly girls from mainland and same, it was a veggie place.

[QUOTE=Alex Smith]I tried several massages that would make you think they offer extra service (on linsen or chanchun)

BUT they don't!

Price are all from 2000 to 2500 for 2H

Girls depends on the place. But 99% won't even offer a HJ.

Went to a place with ugly girls from mainland and same, it was a veggie place.[/QUOTE]

Like I said before most massage places will only offer extras to regulars. And you have to stick with a manager and a girl for awhile, and sometimes it can be a long while. They want to milk you first.

However, if you are willing to pay up front (5-10 visits) then you got a regular ***** house. Remember to always chat up the manager, stick to one, when you visit ask for that manager.

Tired of going there alone, if anyone wants to have some fun with me at KTVs PM me. However, if you want to do the full package make sure you bring 20K NTD cash with you, hahahaha.

I should be in Taiwan by late Sept. for my KTV adventures.

However, depends how big a bonus my company gives me this time, if it isn't too big I may downgrade to sauna places and massage parlors... :(

[QUOTE=Houziwang]

This just goes to underscore my suggestion that it is better to procure from truly independent freelancers. A great market for this is the population of Philipino/Tha/Indonesian/Vietnamese maids, elder care, nannies, and factory workers. It is a lot more work, but GFE is much better, and is generally much, much cheaper in dollars and cents.[/QUOTE]

Be careful with foreign workers, they are also known to frequently rob and even kill would-be johns for all of their cash, for it is easy for them to go underground after the crime, they just find a home or factory elsewhere to work without any ID, and homes and factory are too willing to hire them because they usually pay illegals at 1/3 of the cost of legals.

After looking through the photo gallery and read the posts that says "perfect face and body..." I have to say some of you guys have really low standards....

You really should go to KTV with me once....

Or, maybe we can organize a massive trip to Macau, now there's a city with model quality girls and only 6K TWD, and you don't even need to pay any other cost (strictly a sex joint.)

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Be careful with foreign workers, they are also known to frequently rob and even kill would-be johns for all of their cash, for it is easy for them to go underground after the crime, they just find a home or factory elsewhere to work without any ID, and homes and factory are too willing to hire them because they usually pay illegals at 1/3 of the cost of legals.[/QUOTE]

I can be as wary and cynical as the next guy, but I doubt your commmet holds true for mongering among OFWs in Taiwan. First, I'm only going with OFWs that I've gotten to know: where they work, personal details. Second, it is pretty far fetched for these girls to screw over their bread & butter, esp. given that law enforcement generally will always side against them here. And illegals almost always make more than legals. Employers save a lot on agent fees, insurance and such, but girls that go illegal generally make out better as well.

[url]www.relaxspa.com.tw[/url]

What catches my eye is their advertisement that they only have massauers in the 20s and they are guaranteed to be pretty. They advertised that over and over... hmmm....

will try it when I'm in Taipei

Yo ABC Boy i'm going to be in Taipei late Sept also. You got any more details on the KTV places you mentioned?

[QUOTE=Abc Boy][url]www.relaxspa.com.tw[/url]

What catches my eye is their advertisement that they only have massauers in the 20s and they are guaranteed to be pretty. They advertised that over and over... hmmm....

will try it when I'm in Taipei[/QUOTE]Don't mean to be pessimistic. But I doubt you'll get anything but a really good massage. (if the massage is any good.)

But 2200 for a whole body massage for two hours looks promising.

Looking forward to your report soon.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy][url]www.relaxspa.com.tw[/url]

What catches my eye is their advertisement that they only have massauers in the 20s and they are guaranteed to be pretty. They advertised that over and over... hmmm....

will try it when I'm in Taipei[/QUOTE]

You WILL get a decent massage, you WILL NOT get anything else.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]You WILL get a decent massage, you WILL NOT get anything else.[/QUOTE]

Ok, I will take it as a challenge... :)

[QUOTE=Abc Boy][url]www.relaxspa.com.tw[/url]

What catches my eye is their advertisement that they only have massauers in the 20s and they are guaranteed to be pretty. They advertised that over and over... hmmm....

will try it when I'm in Taipei[/QUOTE]
I do not think it is a good advertising rule to show pictures of ugly girls doing massage, show so-so rooms...
This applies to any type of establishment anywhere in the world...

Last week went to longshan temple snake alley area, in the afternoon 1500h. Lots of "momo" tea shop, but all "girls" are real grannies. My grandmother looks more pretty than them, and she is dead! Haha.

But suddenly I saw one cute girl, waving me. She said 2 hours "momo" and tea is twd 500. Ok I thought nothing too expensive, just see and touch a bit. She claimed to be 28, which looked true. Said she was from China, but she spoke Chinese with strong taipei accent.

Slim, b-cup, friendly, but no english at all. Lucky I speak some Chinese otherwise no comunication at all possible.

Once inside the cubicle, we started to "momo" I could touch her anywhere, even finger her, which made her very wet.

I ask for BJ or HJ, first she wanted 10000 for FS in there or 8000 for BJ!

I just laughed very loud and offerd 500 for BJ. We agreed after 5 min. Bargain to 600 twd.

BBBJ, not bad, but I had better, she spits everything in the paper. A little bit continue to touch and kiss (no DK! ) and than I said byebye.

Please don't ask me which shop is was. Just behind the long shan tourist night marked, there are many small alleys. I really don't remember which one. Be prepared to speak Chinese, english will not help.

Thomas Jefferson, prefere ceasar sauna even more expensive.

Ok, it seems like Longshan Temple may have a rejuvenation of late 20s women. When I visited there a few years ago I was scared off by women in their 60s waving at me. At first I thought they are the mamasans until I realized they were the attractions... I still had chills up my back thinking about those encounters.

But I've read enough in here to give me some hope. I will try to find some luck. Like I say I may get a bad bonus this year which may prevent me from my usual KTV adventures, so I'm looking into more "discount venues" now....

Just got paid and looking for service

Been to Taoyuan at the FS massage places. I would liek to try something different. Tired of the dirty locations in Taoyuan.

Does anyone know any place that looks like Ceasars in Taoyuan or taipei? Looking for bbj service.

I can tell you that the locations in MinChuan rd. Is cheaper than ceasars ($3000) but dirtier. Plus no shower.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]When I visited there a few years ago I was scared off by women in their 60s waving at me. At first I thought they are the mamasans until I realized they were the attractions... I still had chills up my back thinking about those encounters.[/QUOTE]I know exactly what you mean. Hahaha, those "girls" are still there, but only a few years older.

Thomas jefferson

Hey guys,

I was just wondering if there are any places in Taipei that do "ban tao" (half service). I've done this in Tainan once. You get a shower together massage/BJ and about 50 minutes for 1800. Anything like this in Taipei? Do share if you have any info.

Thanks

[QUOTE=DaveDetroit]Hey guys,

I was just wondering if there are any places in Taipei that do "ban tao" (half service). I've done this in Tainan once. You get a shower together massage/BJ and about 50 minutes for 1800. Anything like this in Taipei? Do share if you have any info.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Sounds interesting.

I might be in Tainan soon. Tell us more about this place. Please.

Thomas Jefferson

[QUOTE=Iceachilles]Was at Minchuan rd yesterday. Started looking around, and found a place. Standard 3000 NT for the service. The lady was early thirties, provided a massage first and then got down. Everything was covered and they provide the hot tea CBJ. The location itself was a little shady. 3 floors and the washroom was kinda. Dirty. The rooms were very small. One single bed and that was it. Not impressed. Should try Ceasars except too far. Will try next time I guess.[/QUOTE]
I was wondering if you got overcharged. The average cost in that area is Nt$1,000 for those old hens. Younger girls might ask more but not NT$3000, at least I haven't heard this kind of qoute.

I usually go to Keelung and TaoTuan MinSheng Rd. I've found an early 30s lady at MinSheng who offers BBBJ and no time limitation for NT$1,000. Although majority at these 2 locations are aunties, you could find girls under 30 if you spend more time to cruise.

I give up to check Longshan Temple because their looks have scared me.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]I was wondering if you got overcharged. The average cost in that area is Nt$1,000 for those old hens. Younger girls might ask more but not NT$3000, at least I haven't heard this kind of qoute.

I usually go to Keelung and TaoTuan MinSheng Rd. I've found an early 30s lady at MinSheng who offers BBBJ and no time limitation for NT$1,000. Although majority at these 2 locations are aunties, you could find girls under 30 if you spend more time to cruise.

I give up to check Longshan Temple because their looks have scared me.[/QUOTE]Really? I tried asking a couple of people and reviewed the board. I got the impression that the going rate in the area was approximately $3000. I guess I was ripped, but as this is the first time in Taiwan.

Does anyone know any higher quality places in Taoyuan? Something more along the lines of Ceasars? I haven't had time to go to Ceasars so I was wondering if there is something closer and of higher grade. I like the sauna experience and hope for something afterwards.

Also, is Bay toe (most likely not the right spelling) closer to Taoyuan than Ceasars? I was speaking with a friend and they had indicated that there were hot springs in the area and the massage places there would provide services. As I have no idea where it is and I can't find it on google, I'm not sure where it is.

Feeling lonely and bored, I went to visit Ming Heng last night. When I went in the room the manager told me the normal procedure is now just pick one girl and stay with no "showtime"=strip dance. :(
The price is 2k/hr, 1 time room charge of 1500, and service fees for waiters etc. of 500-800. However, she told me next door they have that 20 min change a girl system, with each 3rd girl performing a 2 song strip dance. I don't know the chinese name, but address is 146 Song Jiang Road, B1. A very swank place. So, I went next door.

There I was more brave in asking about extras and the manager was very helpful. She says at anytime you can ask her, but not all girls are available for special service.
Take out- 7k (used to be 8k, hurray for the bad economy)
HJ-1k
BJ-1.5k
You can have FS in the room for 4k. This was news to me!! I wish I knew it last time, but it makes sense because what man is going to want to spend money to get a hotel as he can't obviously bring the girl home.

However, as it was a Saturday night (a night most girls take off), the mama couldn't find a girl to do a BJ as all the FS girls were already spoken for by other customers. So I settled on 2 hours with a HJ ending. Total came out to 12,000. I know, I know, too much, but the quality of the girls is good and can see 6 different girls which is fun to me.

In my opinion it is too expensive for what you get, but it is faster and more convenient than flying to Dongguan or Philipines. PM if you want the mamasan contact info.

[QUOTE=Jammin 2]Feeling lonely and bored, I went to visit Ming Heng last night. When I went in the room the manager told me the normal procedure is now just pick one girl and stay with no "showtime"=strip dance. :(
The price is 2k/hr, 1 time room charge of 1500, and service fees for waiters etc. of 500-800. However, she told me next door they have that 20 min change a girl system, with each 3rd girl performing a 2 song strip dance. I don't know the chinese name, but address is 146 Song Jiang Road, B1. A very swank place. So, I went next door.

There I was more brave in asking about extras and the manager was very helpful. She says at anytime you can ask her, but not all girls are available for special service.
Take out- 7k (used to be 8k, hurray for the bad economy)
HJ-1k
BJ-1.5k
You can have FS in the room for 4k. This was news to me!! I wish I knew it last time, but it makes sense because what man is going to want to spend money to get a hotel as he can't obviously bring the girl home.

However, as it was a Saturday night (a night most girls take off), the mama couldn't find a girl to do a BJ as all the FS girls were already spoken for by other customers. So I settled on 2 hours with a HJ ending. Total came out to 12,000. I know, I know, too much, but the quality of the girls is good and can see 6 different girls which is fun to me.

In my opinion it is too expensive for what you get, but it is faster and more convenient than flying to Dongguan or Philipines. PM if you want the mamasan contact info.[/QUOTE]

Great field report Jammin, been a long time since anything new has appeared in the forum. Expensive option but maybe worth looking into.

BTW, has anyone been back to SC recently? I was wondering yesterday if anyone has checked out our old hunting grounds recently.

[QUOTE=Jammin 2]Feeling lonely and bored, I went to visit Ming Heng last night. When I went in the room the manager told me the normal procedure is now just pick one girl and stay with no "showtime"=strip dance. :(
The price is 2k/hr, 1 time room charge of 1500, and service fees for waiters etc. of 500-800. However, she told me next door they have that 20 min change a girl system, with each 3rd girl performing a 2 song strip dance. I don't know the chinese name, but address is 146 Song Jiang Road, B1. A very swank place. So, I went next door.

There I was more brave in asking about extras and the manager was very helpful. She says at anytime you can ask her, but not all girls are available for special service.
Take out- 7k (used to be 8k, hurray for the bad economy)
HJ-1k
BJ-1.5k
You can have FS in the room for 4k. This was news to me!! I wish I knew it last time, but it makes sense because what man is going to want to spend money to get a hotel as he can't obviously bring the girl home.

However, as it was a Saturday night (a night most girls take off), the mama couldn't find a girl to do a BJ as all the FS girls were already spoken for by other customers. So I settled on 2 hours with a HJ ending. Total came out to 12,000. I know, I know, too much, but the quality of the girls is good and can see 6 different girls which is fun to me.

In my opinion it is too expensive for what you get, but it is faster and more convenient than flying to Dongguan or Philipines. PM if you want the mamasan contact info.[/QUOTE]

It's good to hear from a fellow KTV adventurer. As a KTV veteran let me give you some advices.

One - the bad economy has downed the FS into 6K, not 7K. 7K was the price I paid for awhile now. She was probably playing you.

Two - I hope you got a model. They have model girls that they save for VIPs or customers that are really demanding. NEVER settle for what they give you, but don't be shy (nor afraid, they are not looking to beat you up but want your money peaceably) and keep rejecting girls until they get the real good meat in. I once rejected girls 5 times until the manager got his cell phone and called in a hottie, I heard the manager cursing at me outside the room, but inside the room he's my doggie, ahahaha.

Three - there's ALWAYS strip dance in uniform shops (regular clothes shops have dances but they don't strip). If they tell you they don't then they are playing you because they can tell you're a noob. Say: "WTF, don't you play me I've been to these establishments before" and they will reply: "sorry sorry, my mistake, I will remind the girls to strip dance for you right away." And yes, you can DEMAND the girls to dance anytime you want (you don't have to wait 1 hour or 30 minutes or whatever, just give the signal and the girl will turn out special music, locked the door, and enjoy the show.)

Finally, I'm a VIP to a pimp... er... I mean manager of KTV establishments in Taipei. I will be in Taipei late Sept. or early Oct. (haven't settle yet), PM me if you want to do it again.

Just read a news article that due to Taiwan's bad economy and the drastic decline of customers to KTV establishments that most KTV girls decided to take the direct flight to China and work there "part-time" - more rich people, bigger tips, and Taiwan KTV girls are preferred because of their "good customer service"

Damn....

Hey Guys,

I am new in this forum even though I am living here in Taipei for almost a year.

As I heard that KTV's are the most high-end (even though expensive), well, experiences, I am looking for some that are exclusive enough and will not try to rip off foreigners (very beautiful girls are, of course, part of the deal).

The idea is also to bring some friends and collegues that are coming to visit me, for some nice time.

Any suggestions?

Hey ABC Boy,

I'm going to be in Taiwan around the same time as you and wouldn't mind trying out some KTV action since I've never done that before in Taiwan. I'm actually heading to Macau/China before reaching Taiwan, although quality and service might be better there, still gotta do it up once in my motherland. What is the total cost of a regular night out? Also if you are going, maybe I'll join if that's cool. Reach me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

Thx

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]It's good to hear from a fellow KTV adventurer. As a KTV veteran let me give you some advices.

One - the bad economy has downed the FS into 6K, not 7K. 7K was the price I paid for awhile now. She was probably playing you.

Two - I hope you got a model. They have model girls that they save for VIPs or customers that are really demanding. NEVER settle for what they give you, but don't be shy (nor afraid, they are not looking to beat you up but want your money peaceably) and keep rejecting girls until they get the real good meat in. I once rejected girls 5 times until the manager got his cell phone and called in a hottie, I heard the manager cursing at me outside the room, but inside the room he's my doggie, ahahaha.

Three - there's ALWAYS strip dance in uniform shops (regular clothes shops have dances but they don't strip). If they tell you they don't then they are playing you because they can tell you're a noob. Say: "WTF, don't you play me I've been to these establishments before" and they will reply: "sorry sorry, my mistake, I will remind the girls to strip dance for you right away." And yes, you can DEMAND the girls to dance anytime you want (you don't have to wait 1 hour or 30 minutes or whatever, just give the signal and the girl will turn out special music, locked the door, and enjoy the show.)

Finally, I'm a VIP to a pimp... er... I mean manager of KTV establishments in Taipei. I will be in Taipei late Sept. or early Oct. (haven't settle yet), PM me if you want to do it again.[/QUOTE][size=-2][u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove email addresses in the text[/u]. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]

Wondering if someone can recommend a love motel.

Preference is somewhere in the city (near a an exit of the blue MRT line would be perfect), with a good-sized room, hot tub, and furnishing that are not too run down.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Houziwang]Wondering if someone can recommend a love motel.

Preference is somewhere in the city (near a an exit of the blue MRT line would be perfect), with a good-sized room, hot tub, and furnishing that are not too run down.

Thanks.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.we-go.com.tw/[/url]

Thomas Jefferson

[QUOTE=Houziwang]Wondering if someone can recommend a love motel.

Preference is somewhere in the city (near a an exit of the blue MRT line would be perfect), with a good-sized room, hot tub, and furnishing that are not too run down.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Wego is great but too well known and crawling with reporters looking to score with a celeb sneaking in for some fun. A place I have used once or twice is on Nanjing Road Sec. 5, right before you get to Keelung Rd and right below the off ramp. Cannot remember the name but cannot miss it. Its about 3 stories and takes up half the block.

Great rooms, nice comfortable beds. Great lighting effects, anything from romantic to kinky, glow in the dark ceiling paintings and great sound proof rooms. My freebie and I gave it a serious test run a while ago and was not disappointed.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Wego is great but too well known and crawling with reporters looking to score with a celeb sneaking in for some fun. A place I have used once or twice is on Nanjing Road Sec. 5, right before you get to Keelung Rd and right below the off ramp ...[/QUOTE]

Thanks guys. Wondering if you could comment on the lobby experience at these places. I'll be taking a Filipina, and as you may appreciate, no matter how well they dress, they often cannot help but still look like a maid. And local attitudes are not always that great either. So I really dislike when a gaggle of 2-3 workers or patrons in the lobby give her/us the once-over. On rare occasion I have walked out of places when I didn't like the vibe at the front desk. I'd like to treat my girl nice, but I'm wondering if she might be more comfortable at one of our regular, but more homely haunts. Has anyone seen Filipinas going into the We-go at Linsen? It is near Zhongshan's Philipino district, but then Filipina suitors may gravitate toward lower-end hotels. Hmmm ...

[QUOTE=Iceachilles]Does anyone know any higher quality places in Taoyuan? Something more along the lines of Ceasars? I haven't had time to go to Ceasars so I was wondering if there is something closer and of higher grade. I like the sauna experience and hope for something afterwards.

Also, is Bay toe (most likely not the right spelling) closer to Taoyuan than Ceasars? I was speaking with a friend and they had indicated that there were hot springs in the area and the massage places there would provide services. As I have no idea where it is and I can't find it on google, I'm not sure where it is.[/QUOTE]
BeiTou is further north and thus farther. Its on the MRT line, you can transfer at BeiTou for XinBeiTou. There are certainly hot springs there, indoors and out, but I haven't seen reports in this forum about lots of services there. Decades ago yes.

BTW I got ahold of an Google Android phone here, it shows you your location on a moving map, its pretty great. Haven't tested it much outside Taipei yet.

[QUOTE=Houziwang]Wondering if someone can recommend a love motel.

Preference is somewhere in the city (near a an exit of the blue MRT line would be perfect), with a good-sized room, hot tub, and furnishing that are not too run down.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Houziwang, just remembered one more place. More urban design feel with very large bathrooms and centally located. Called "Hsuan Mei 宣美" near Ba-De on Jian-Guo Rd. Has a side entrance and i remember rooms ranged from 800 to 1000 for 2 hour rest.

Had some good times there.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Just read a news article that due to Taiwan's bad economy and the drastic decline of customers to KTV establishments that most KTV girls decided to take the direct flight to China and work there "part-time" - more rich people, bigger tips, and Taiwan KTV girls are preferred because of their "good customer service"

Damn....[/QUOTE]

Sh*t!

This is indeed what we call the world is round and now its there turn in F*cking our girls from Taiwan. in the past we have traveleed to China to f*ck all those lovely girls outthere.

I think Taiwan will be the future sex market for those big shot china businesman.

Cheers,


MD

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Houziwang, just remembered one more place. More urban design feel with very large bathrooms and centally located. Called "Hsuan Mei 宣美" near Ba-De on Jian-Guo Rd. Has a side entrance and i remember rooms ranged from 800 to 1000 for 2 hour rest.

Had some good times there.[/QUOTE]

I'm just gonna have to try them all out. ;-)

Working on the assumption here that We-go is a bit over the top, and the other two places you mentioned are slightly toned down versions. Thanks.

checked out 99 massage today (see other posts if unfamiliar).

i went there about half a year ago and got a very sensual massage, getting very close but, unfortunately, never touching.

seems they're no longer fully legit.

got a 90 minute massage. asked if i wanted draping, i said "doesn't matter", so she didn't drape me. started massaging from the legs (lots of oil) and immediately she was "accidentally" grazing me many times. not only was she "accidentally" grazing but she seemed fully comfortable massaging my ass crack. i pretty much knew at this point it was gonna end happily.

massage proceeded and then i turned around. again she started from the legs, grazing the boys many times. then she moved to the chest, arms. and finally went back to the legs. at this point she was massaging so close. literally massaging the very base of my cock. then after a while she asks me, while rubbing me right in between my sac and my leg: "last time you came she only massage you on the side, right? not in the middle"? ("side" referring to right next to my cock/balls, and "middle" referring to the actual thing) so i bluffed and said "no, she massaged everything". so she said, "how much she charge? " and i made up a number "1000 extra" (you can probably negotiate less). so she was like "ok! " then she mounts the table and the good stuff begins.

let me tell you, this was no mechanical jerk off. she massaged all over, massaging my balls and stroking my cock once or twice and then she would switch to a light touch around the legs and stroke another couple times. it was great teasing/build up that lasted at least a good 20 minutes. she was in no rush whatsoever. she took her sweet time. finally she went into straight jerk off to finish me off, all the while massaging my balls. came all over the place and she continued massaging it for another good 5 minutes. cleans me up, tells me there's another 10 minutes and gives me more massage.

generally the service was excellent. here's the other info:

girl was kinda chubby/big but not an atrocity to look at (not the same girl as described in other posts). this would be my biggest complaint. if the girl was hot it might be the best massage i'd ever gotten. service in the states does not compare (not for the price, anyway). endings in the us are so mechanical, but here the build up and teasing was excellent, as if it's part of the massage, not something separate they just wanna get over with.

total damage: 1900 (1.5 hours) + 1000 (hj, probably can get better price)

good thing i don't live here or i'd be going here so often i'd be broke. actually would check out their other store to see if there's a hotter masseuse.

cheers

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[QUOTE=Qweqweqwe]

Total damage: 1900 (1.5 hours) + 1000 (HJ, probably can get better price)

Good thing I don't live here or I'd be going here so often I'd be broke. Actually would check out their other store to see if there's a hotter masseuse.

Cheers

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Great first report and nice field work. Keep up the great reports.

Before a few years back, there were a whole lot of venues open to choose from. College girls or even High School girls would be in rooms waiting to be chosen to earn a few extra bucks. But i suppose times have changed, you have to resort to calling on those business cards, flyers or expensive saunas that are generally overpriced.

From my previous few trips these couple of years, i have become even more unimpressed with the different type of venues taiwan has to offer.

I've been to:

1. the sleezy KTV- which you end up spending an arm and a leg and sometimes don't even get the girl unless you pay up to 8000 NT.

2. Touch Touch Tea Shops, were great for the first time, but afterwards becomes very bland, same routine. But the one i went to did have a japanese tatami mat inside, so it had this japanese theme.

3. apartment hotels, operated by the gangsters down south. Where they have illegal vietnamese and china ladies come for you to choose, which was very dirty because they never clean their sheets, and just put a towel over the sheets.

4. the saunas which usually just give you an HJ for an expensive and overpriced rate.

But now it seems a lot of these venues are dissapearing. Regardless, i've had better luck on Kaohsiung area than up in taipei area. But now it's just better to save it and cross over to China when you get a long break. The old Taiwan a few years back, are not longer as good now.

But reading from all these recent posts, it seems that taiwan's activities are picking up. I'm just wondering where in taipei can you get any action?

Friday 2 a.m. I found an early 20s 5'7" tall leggy, face 9.5 body 10 (nice/firm boobs and great legs), wearing very nice outfit - mini skirt and high heels, in the 2nd house (right side) Alley 330 MinSheng Rd, TaoYuan. She got good taste/sense of fashion, like girls in Taipei East district, unlike those cheap dressed country girls.

She asked NT$1500. However, for the cost I chose (another house) an NT$800 mid 30s lady (I thought) who offered BBBJ and pump. I regretted as soon as she took off her cloth. She got old woman's body shape and legs, and the SMELL of old woman !!! She must be over 40. Good from far but far from good.

I closed my eyes while BBBJ to let my bro get hard, but bro got soft when I saw her / ready to pump. NO DESIRE AT ALL. She tried to shake my bro but I reminded her "probably time is up" (Although the rule is 15 min, not very restricted in this area. Many ladies would say "we could have more time" when asking you to choose her) Bro remained soft and I WANTED TO LEAVE. I should have picked that "face 9.5 body 10" girl. Paid NT800 for no cum.

Usually the look "8" is the best you could get at those low cost (under 1.5K) places (the same in SanChong Tofu houses). Sometimes you see 9 or 10 look girls, but they won't stay there for long. Probably no more than one month. They are in the desperate situation to take NT$900 (from your 1.5K) for a pump. Very soon they will leave and got better offers.

Too many times I went back for that 9/10 girl for the 2nd date, and pimp/mamasan said "She is not here today". Pimps won't tell you "She is no longer here" because they want you to keep visiting the house. There is a chance you might pick someone else. That's what they care.

[quote=ragnarok42]wego is great but too well known and crawling with reporters looking to score with a celeb sneaking in for some fun. a place i have used once or twice is on nanjing road sec. 5, right before you get to keelung rd and right below the off ramp. cannot remember the name but cannot miss it. its about 3 stories and takes up half the block.

great rooms, nice comfortable beds. great lighting effects, anything from romantic to kinky, glow in the dark ceiling paintings and great sound proof rooms. my freebie and i gave it a serious test run a while ago and was not disappointed.[/quote]

i believe you speak of the alper. location is about an 8-10min walk from the city hall mrt station. rooms are largely as you describe. rooms come in different configurations: most have big concrete/tile whirlpools, some have those funky sex chairs (i think). as usual, the different rooms have different prices. *free adsl connection is in the room - simply bring your laptop and plug in. if you stay overnight, there is a fresh market next door - convenient for picking up some munchies to bring back to the room. alper also has a nice alcove for coffee/breakfast where it is convenient to meet someone if you need to wait. when i peeked in, there were too gorgeous and very professional girls behind the counter. rag mentioned the place is soundproof. not sure if it is purposeful or not, but each room does seem individually soundproof. downside is the location is perhaps a little out of the way. maybe that keeps prices down. i only took a gander at overnight rates, which ran from around nt$3.2 to something like nt$4.2 depending on the room you select.

Got an SMS from my regular provider on Sat warning me that there are other providers cooperating with LE to set up brothers. I will call her later tonight to get more info but meanwhile all brothers should be cautious. They cannot do anything to you legally but they can embarrass you by calling your family or worse.

Stick only with providers you have used in the past and play it safe. I will update this once i get more info.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Got an SMS from my regular provider on Sat warning me that there are other providers cooperating with LE to set up brothers. I will call her later tonight to get more info but meanwhile all brothers should be cautious. They cannot do anything to you legally but they can embarrass you by calling your family or worse.

Stick only with providers you have used in the past and play it safe. I will update this once i get more info.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like an extortion racket. Given that Ma's legalization effort should imminently cut into mafia cashflow, and given that more difficult economic times are hurting even the First Profession, I wouldn't be surprised to see the mafia turn their procurement operations into extortion rackets. There is no risk or value lost in alienating the clientele.

An extortion racket makes a lot of sense right about now, in my view. I would give this report full credibility and plan accordingly.

Just when you thought the Taiwan scene couldn't get any deader! Ha!

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Got an SMS from my regular provider on Sat warning me that there are other providers cooperating with LE to set up brothers. I will call her later tonight to get more info but meanwhile all brothers should be cautious. They cannot do anything to you legally but they can embarrass you by calling your family or worse.

Stick only with providers you have used in the past and play it safe. I will update this once i get more info.[/QUOTE]

Thanks and noted. This is why I stick with Caesars and KTVs. You never know with these scums.

[quote=houziwang]i believe you speak of the alper. location is about an 8-10min walk from the city hall mrt station. rooms are largely as you describe. rooms come in different configurations: most have big concrete/tile whirlpools, some have those funky sex chairs (i think). as usual, the different rooms have different prices. *free adsl connection is in the room - simply bring your laptop and plug in. if you stay overnight, there is a fresh market next door - convenient for picking up some munchies to bring back to the room. alper also has a nice alcove for coffee/breakfast where it is convenient to meet someone if you need to wait. when i peeked in, there were too gorgeous and very professional girls behind the counter. rag mentioned the place is soundproof. not sure if it is purposeful or not, but each room does seem individually soundproof. downside is the location is perhaps a little out of the way. maybe that keeps prices down. i only took a gander at overnight rates, which ran from around nt$3.2 to something like nt$4.2 depending on the room you select.[/quote]

yes, and i still haven't figure out the "fun" of that kinky chair that you described.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]Friday 2 a.m. I found an early 20s 5'7" tall leggy, face 9.5 body 10 (nice/firm boobs and great legs), wearing very nice outfit - mini skirt and high heels, in the 2nd house (right side) Alley 330 MinSheng Rd, TaoYuan. She got good taste/sense of fashion, like girls in Taipei East district, unlike those cheap dressed country girls.

She asked NT$1500. However, for the cost I chose (another house) an NT$800 mid 30s lady (I thought) who offered BBBJ and pump. I regretted as soon as she took off her cloth. She got old woman's body shape and legs, and the SMELL of old woman !!! She must be over 40. Good from far but far from good.

I closed my eyes while BBBJ to let my bro get hard, but bro got soft when I saw her / ready to pump. NO DESIRE AT ALL. She tried to shake my bro but I reminded her "probably time is up" (Although the rule is 15 min, not very restricted in this area. Many ladies would say "we could have more time" when asking you to choose her) Bro remained soft and I WANTED TO LEAVE. I should have picked that "face 9.5 body 10" girl. Paid NT800 for no cum.

Usually the look "8" is the best you could get at those low cost (under 1.5K) places (the same in SanChong Tofu houses). Sometimes you see 9 or 10 look girls, but they won't stay there for long. Probably no more than one month. They are in the desperate situation to take NT$900 (from your 1.5K) for a pump. Very soon they will leave and got better offers.

Too many times I went back for that 9/10 girl for the 2nd date, and pimp/mamasan said "She is not here today". Pimps won't tell you "She is no longer here" because they want you to keep visiting the house. There is a chance you might pick someone else. That's what they care.[/QUOTE]

No offense my fellow monger brother but you passed on a girl that charges ONLY $1500 NT? Sorry but....

[QUOTE=Qweqweqwe]Checked out 99 massage today (see other posts if unfamiliar).



Cheers

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I am glad the "jerk off" is back (personally I don't like it but hey, it's better than nothing), but yes, the typical going rate is $500. $1000 is a jackpot for them (they usually say $1000, but you can reply: "bull, last time it was $500)

[QUOTE=Houziwang]Wondering if someone can recommend a love motel.

Preference is somewhere in the city (near a an exit of the blue MRT line would be perfect), with a good-sized room, hot tub, and furnishing that are not too run down.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[url]www.alpermotel.com.tw[/url]

"overnight" is 12 hours stay (yes, they time you) at $3200-3500
"rest" is 2 hours at $1000-$1400

The one that's talked about by Rag and us

Very close to blue line (but still need to take a bus ride, or walk 15 minutes south.)

[QUOTE=Sent19]Hey ABC Boy,

I'm going to be in Taiwan around the same time as you and wouldn't mind trying out some KTV action since I've never done that before in Taiwan. I'm actually heading to Macau/China before reaching Taiwan, although quality and service might be better there, still gotta do it up once in my motherland. What is the total cost of a regular night out? Also if you are going, maybe I'll join if that's cool. Reach me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

Thx
[/QUOTE]

It's cool but you need to PM me since posting email in public is not allowed. Also, be ready to spend some money as KTV is not cheap.

$2000 per person room charge
$2000 per hour "fun" charge per person per girl (if you order 2 girls it's double the charge, 3 = triple, etc.)
$1000 beer charge (more if you order fancy alcohol)
$6000 take out "fun charge" (this is VIP rate with me, or it's $8000 standard charge)
$8000 3 hour take out charge (you pay for 4 hours but only allow to have her out for 3 hours)

Total: $19000 (or more depends on what you wanna drink, and how many girls, etc.)

So....

[QUOTE=Demiorgus]Hey Guys,

I am new in this forum even though I am living here in Taipei for almost a year.

As I heard that KTV's are the most high-end (even though expensive), well, experiences, I am looking for some that are exclusive enough and will not try to rip off foreigners (very beautiful girls are, of course, part of the deal).

The idea is also to bring some friends and collegues that are coming to visit me, for some nice time.

Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Those places are cash-making machines, and therefore they are very distrusting of "walk-in customers", you need someone like me (or anyone with KTV experiences) to take you in to gain their trust, they go by referrals, not advertisements.

PM me if you want me to introduce you once, all it take is once and you can go there by yourself in the future and take your friends.

I have gotten a lot of interest from people who wants to "party" with me. However, they are all people that have never posted or made less than 10 posts.... has me a bit worried...

Are there known cases of "wolves" here to setup mongers?

[QUOTE=Abc Boy][url]www.alpermotel.com.tw[/url]

"overnight" is 12 hours stay (yes, they time you) at $3200-3500
"rest" is 2 hours at $1000-$1400

The one that's talked about by Rag and us

Very close to blue line (but still need to take a bus ride, or walk 15 minutes south.)[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the weblink. By 'overnight' I was referring to their 24hr (noon-noon) rate, which runs about NT$1k more than the 12hr rate, give or take.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]No offense my fellow monger brother but you passed on a girl that charges ONLY $1500 NT? Sorry but....[/QUOTE]
It's not unusual to find "above 8" NT$1500 girls in SanChong Tofu house area if you got the right house (some houses got craps), but those "9/10 look" girls wouldn't stay for long so that hard to date them more than twice. 15 min rule is pretty much restricted (only a few more minutes might be OK).

My friend goes to those "individual" who charged 3 to 4k per hour at her place. He showed me the girls' pictures in his cell phone. Sometimes they would send him messages, of course for the $ not love.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]I have gotten a lot of interest from people who wants to "party" with me. However, they are all people that have never posted or made less than 10 posts.... has me a bit worried...

Are there known cases of "wolves" here to setup mongers?[/QUOTE]

My sense is board members very rarely meet because of that very fear. If as Rag's post suggests, the mafia is working with police to run an extortion racket, certainly they are trolling her as well. And certainly they are all over Craigslist. There is simply no upside, and lots of potential downside, to meeting in person with trolls or one-post-wonders.

Where is 99 massage?
Any direction or contact info appreciated.

update - I found the info:

Direction: 99 Massage Parlor, No. 99 Nanjing East Rd, Sec 4, 15 minutes walk east from MRT Nanjing East Rd on Nanjing Rd. (north side of the road), Tel. No. Please see newspaper


I might try it.
Looks like for under $2500NT, you get good massage plus HJ.

TK

[QUOTE=Houziwang]My sense is board members very rarely meet because of that very fear. If as Rag's post suggests, the mafia is working with police to run an extortion racket, certainly they are trolling her as well. And certainly they are all over Craigslist. There is simply no upside, and lots of potential downside, to meeting in person with trolls or one-post-wonders.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree with Houziwang, dont meet with any one-post-wonders and lurkers. They need to earn our trust before we can meet them. I tried talking to my regular provider yesterday about the info she was giving me and she was surprisingly unwilling to talk about it. I can only think she is scared about something or just wants my business.

I dont think brothers with regular providers need to worry. Just dont do any "cold calls" to ppl who send you SMS messages. Excercise caution (as always) and play safe.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]It's not unusual to find "above 8" NT$1500 girls in SanChong Tofu house area if you got the right house (some houses got craps), but those "9/10 look" girls wouldn't stay for long so that hard to date them more than twice. 15 min rule is pretty much restricted (only a few more minutes might be OK).

My friend goes to those "individual" who charged 3 to 4k per hour at her place. He showed me the girls' pictures in his cell phone. Sometimes they would send him messages, of course for the $ not love.[/QUOTE]

I have a 9 girl (my SC laopou) who still works at the Tofu house and sends me an SMS when she is working. Used to know which houses had the talent but those days are long gone.

As for girls who either come to you or you go to her, I have 1 or 2 of those. Of course its about $ and not love but they do give you much better service, no rush and seem to actually enjoy our time together. Also they usually are totally safe (in terms of LE) so I dont complain, just hand over the $ and consider it a bargain.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]It's cool but you need to PM me since posting email in public is not allowed. Also, be ready to spend some money as KTV is not cheap.

$2000 per person room charge
$2000 per hour "fun" charge per person per girl (if you order 2 girls it's double the charge, 3 = triple, etc.)
$1000 beer charge (more if you order fancy alcohol)
$6000 take out "fun charge" (this is VIP rate with me, or it's $8000 standard charge)
$8000 3 hour take out charge (you pay for 4 hours but only allow to have her out for 3 hours)

Total: $19000 (or more depends on what you wanna drink, and how many girls, etc.)

So....[/QUOTE]Hey ABC Boy,

Are the ktv places you hit near lin sun bei lu?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Sent19]Hey ABC Boy,

Are the ktv places you hit near lin sun bei lu?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I hit them all, but yeah, that is a frequent area.

I was walking around Taoyuan and decided to visit a spa. Now as I can't comment on Ceasars as I have not been there, I can only base this report on other people's report.

I can't say that it was a successful visit as I didn't get laid, but is the details.

The quality of the location is approximately the same as what people described at ceasars. It is a full sauna with jacuzzi, steam room, the works. Like always, you have to walk around naked to wash yourself and enjoy the finer details of the spa. The only thing that I can tell you I felt uncomfortable with is that a man walked up to me and asked if I wanted my back washed. I replied "NO THANKS" obviously.

Once I was into the Massage area, I was approached by who I thought was the Mamasan. They offered a massage and I said yes. I was hoping that they would offer other services, but as it was my first time and there were no posts here indicating that it was a veg place, I though what the heck. The first indication that something was wrong was when the girl that spoke with me walked with me into the room and was going to give me a massage. I went in and took my robe off and she indicated that that was it. I should keep my shorts on. That is when I thought that this was going to be a veg place. No matter, There were no reports so I wasn't too surprised. Everything went normally, it was a good massage and then I went back into the relax area to read my book.

This is where I got angry.

The mamasan approached me and asked if I wanted A SPECIAL MASSAGE! WTF? I thought they didn't offer it. She said that the girl that approached me was new hear (Second day) and she didn't know not to approach me. She then offered to me, but I refused. I was a little ticked off at this point and just got up and changed.

Afterwards, I was talking to someone who was working there and he indicated that the "special massages" were $3600 NTD. And like Ceasars, there was a $100 charge for your shoes.

The damage for a not special massage. Get ready for this. $3000 NTD. Had I known, I would have gone for a special. IF I wanted the special, I would have to add $3600 on top of the $3000 for the regular massage that I just got. *Sigh. I'll just blame this on the ghost month as this is the first time I've been in taiwan during the ghost month. That plus people have been telling me that this would be an unlucky month and so far it has been.

Anyways, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to put the address on the forum so if anyone wants to know where the location is, you can either pm me or indicate that I am allowed to put this on the forum. FYI, it is approximately 20 min walk from the train station so bring your walking shoes if you are not used to it. As I don't get paid until the end of the month, I won't be visiting the place for another couple of weeks minimum.

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I went to SC early last month and I have some bad news. I had a longer chat with one of the girls afterwards, and it seems that the whole shack area is slated for complete demolition soon. The"plan" of the government is to build a park or expand the highway or something. She wasn't too clear on it. I am sure it is an excuse to get rid of the 'loose ends" that the doufu shacks represent. It is difficult to monitor these places and they look bad compared to the upscale Japanese style BBSs.In any case, she insisted I take the Mamasan's number for when they move, which she thought would be soon. She said to call before I came (monger joke!), next time.

Anyways, if any of you frequent SC at all, make sure you get some numbers. There are a few places there that are in the houses along the park, rather than the shacks, but it looks like that area is going to be changed very soon. But in Taiwan, who knows? Let's hope her info was wrong.

Big Bro X

[QUOTE=Iceachilles]
The mamasan approached me and asked if I wanted A SPECIAL MASSAGE! WTF? I thought they didn't offer it. She said that the girl that approached me was new hear (Second day) and she didn't know not to approach me. She then offered to me, but I refused. I was a little ticked off at this point and just got up and changed.


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Heh heh, I actually made this mistake when I was mongering 10+ years ago. I was even dumber, I walked in and ask everyone (the waiter, custodian, etc.) where's the massage, and finally a lady came out and massage me for real (veg.)

Next time I went in, sat down, act cool, and got approached by the real mamasan.

[QUOTE=Big Brother X]I went to SC early last month and I have some bad news. I had a longer chat with one of the girls afterwards, and it seems that the whole shack area is slated for complete demolition soon. The"plan" of the government is to build a park or expand the highway or something.
[/QUOTE]

I can verify your info. Was there just this morning (around 7.00am) and the place was deserted. I went looking for my SC laopo but at the last minute she told me that the place was closed due to "an incident". Walked to the bridge and the shacks there were getting bulldozed and no one sitting around.

By then I caught the attention of a guy on a motorcycle who took me some other place where I had a pretty good time. Same price and everything but while talked to the girl later she told me the raids have gotten really bad. Not just police cars, but they are using undercover ppl to raid places. Seems like the local authorities are hell bent on cleaning up the place. Too bad, guess our old haunts will now become the stuff of legends and tales told of the "good old times'....

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I can verify your info. Was there just this morning (around 7.00am) and the place was deserted. I went looking for my SC laopo but at the last minute she told me that the place was closed due to "an incident". Walked to the bridge and the shacks there were getting bulldozed and no one sitting around ...[/QUOTE]

I'm wondering if it is part-and-parcel with plans (?) to legalize. Perhaps authorities don't want to inadvertently legitimize the SC shacks by leaving them in place when legalization takes place? I'd also be curious how much of this is specifically tied to Ma's stated interest in going after underworld elements. SC is clearly mafia run. Perhaps the gov't wants to severely constrict mafia involvement in a new legalized prostitution 'industry'. Seems it would be a good thing, even if there is sacrifice in the short term. We'll have to wait and see ...

[QUOTE=Houziwang]I'm wondering if it is part-and-parcel with plans (?) to legalize. Perhaps authorities don't want to inadvertently legitimize the SC shacks by leaving them in place when legalization takes place? I'd also be curious how much of this is specifically tied to Ma's stated interest in going after underworld elements. SC is clearly mafia run. Perhaps the gov't wants to severely constrict mafia involvement in a new legalized prostitution 'industry'. Seems it would be a good thing, even if there is sacrifice in the short term. We'll have to wait and see ...[/QUOTE]

That was my thought as well. We hear that partial legalization/decriminalization is coming then things get even worse in terms of cracking down. It is fairly obvious that areas like SC would never 'clean-up' in the eyes of the government in terms of reporting income or health checks or whatever is in the deal. Thus, it wouldn't be a bad idea for the gov't to crack down on the mob-run areas as hard as possible before opening the doors back up. This could be a good thing, eventually.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I can verify your info. Was there just this morning (around 7.00am) and the place was deserted. I went looking for my SC laopo but at the last minute she told me that the place was closed due to "an incident". Walked to the bridge and the shacks there were getting bulldozed and no one sitting around.

By then I caught the attention of a guy on a motorcycle who took me some other place where I had a pretty good time. Same price and everything but while talked to the girl later she told me the raids have gotten really bad. Not just police cars, but they are using undercover ppl to raid places. Seems like the local authorities are hell bent on cleaning up the place. Too bad, guess our old haunts will now become the stuff of legends and tales told of the "good old times'....[/QUOTE]

Hi Rag,

Give me some update on your new Laopo in SC. Our favorites already been away. I wonder the one you visit this morning is the same place I went, which is far from the area and there is some nice lady outthere.

Also I am a but scare with the Kissing stuff these days at SC due to teh H1N1 virus. I have an experience the other day at one of the shaks that the girls (my regular) wish to have some deep kissing with me but I avoided it which I feel she was embarrased for my actions. I feel so sorry for what I did, as you know most of the girls overthere don't. go for deep and passionatre kissing not unless you have made them feel comfortable or knows you for some time.

Please keep me some info as I am tired of exploring again due to the LE annoying and most of teh shcaks open at night.

Well, you know my taste, like Lingling (the one on the same shacks with baobao). Hsiao mi, chichi etc. all these have a good services and very petite too.

cheers,

MD

Ok, its official. I have a vegetarian ghost hanging around me this month and he isn't leaving anytime soon.

I went to 99 massage after reading a report before. I thought that it was a good deal for a good massage and a HJ.

Went there and the lady started giving me a massage. She spoke Chinese and I speak Chinese. That is when it went down hill from there. She started chatting it up and talking about everything from her zodiac to her favorite food. Ect. By the time she finished talking, my time was up. Another disappointment.

BTW, I had my ass massaged and I thought it would go all the way, but she stopped. And left me hanging. Is there like a trick to get them to give me a HJ? She didn't ask, didn't hint, didn't even allow me to cut in. I should just pretend I don't speak Chinese as she said that she doesn't speak very frequently with her foreign clients.

[QUOTE=Macho Dik]Hi Rag,

Also I am a but scare with the Kissing stuff these days at SC due to teh H1N1 virus. I have an experience the other day at one of the shaks that the girls (my regular) wish to have some deep kissing with me but I avoided it which I feel she was embarrased for my actions. I feel so sorry for what I did, as you know most of the girls overthere don't. go for deep and passionatre kissing not unless you have made them feel comfortable or knows you for some time.

Please keep me some info as I am tired of exploring again due to the LE annoying and most of teh shcaks open at night.

Well, you know my taste, like Lingling (the one on the same shacks with baobao). Hsiao mi, chichi etc. all these have a good services and very petite too.

cheers,

MD[/QUOTE]

Even before H1N1 I don't kiss them in fear of STDs (it can be transfer by mouth if she has leaking blood from her teeth, which happens more often then you can imagine.) I'm so paranoid now I don't even kiss their bodies anymore unless I know for sure I'm their first customer AND we took a shower together to wash her down clean. Of course, always "take cover" when you do your thing.

Do not let your little brother do the thinking for you. All it take is one mistake to land you some serious STD, AIDS, etc.

[QUOTE=Houziwang]I'm wondering if it is part-and-parcel with plans (?) to legalize. Perhaps authorities don't want to inadvertently legitimize the SC shacks by leaving them in place when legalization takes place? I'd also be curious how much of this is specifically tied to Ma's stated interest in going after underworld elements. SC is clearly mafia run. Perhaps the gov't wants to severely constrict mafia involvement in a new legalized prostitution 'industry'. Seems it would be a good thing, even if there is sacrifice in the short term. We'll have to wait and see ...[/QUOTE]

I think we can safely say ALL of these establishments are mafia run or has ties to the mafia. Long Heng is actually a "joint venture" of two of the biggest mafia in Taiwan.

But you may be on to something. Before legalization the gov't probably wants to clean up the little shacks to pave way for the bigger legal shacks by the big mafias (and get more "red envelope" from them for doing this.)

Anyway, I long for the day when Taiwan can be like Macau...

[QUOTE=Iceachilles]I went to 99 massage after reading a report before. I thought that it was a good deal for a good massage and a HJ.

Went there and the lady started giving me a massage. She spoke Chinese and I speak Chinese. That is when it went down hill from there. She started chatting it up and talking about everything from her zodiac to her favorite food. Ect. By the time she finished talking, my time was up ...[/QUOTE]

So its official - one can get MARRIED at 99 Massage. Hahaha! (I feel your pain Ice, trust me on that.)

I went to the 99 massage today and saw YoYo. As other posters indicate not the most attractive in face or body. At the end of 90 min, she indicated we were done, I use a common hands-signal, shaking the salt, she understood and went right to work. We didn't negotiate a tip, but feeling generous I left 600. So the total was 2500. I am pretty sure that since this is Asia, the tip isn't even required.
Not bad if you are looking for a good massage primarily with a happy ending.

Hey dudes,

I'm booked for a stay in Taipei next week. On past trips, I've done Yuki's, Caesars, and Tokyo Sauna.

(check out my report from May: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=885126#post885126[/url] ).

I see there has been a lot of posts recently on 99 Massage. I think I might check this out to try something different.

Abc Boy. I've seen your posts about KTV's and this sounds like something to experience (although per you posts it is quite expensive). I'm bringing some extra cash, so I might give this a shot. I'm a Caucasian, however, and know just a few words of Mandarin. Is this a non-starter? Have any of you non-Chinese tried KTVs? I'm not looking to waste a wad of cash.

Also, I'm wondering if the changes coming down with legalization have had any effect upon Yuki's service. I've been happy in the past. Anyone have recent info? Crater

[QUOTE=Crater999]Hey dudes,

Abc Boy. I've seen your posts about KTV's and this sounds like something to experience (although per you posts it is quite expensive). I'm bringing some extra cash, so I might give this a shot. I'm a Caucasian, however, and know just a few words of Mandarin. Is this a non-starter? Have any of you non-Chinese tried KTVs? I'm not looking to waste a wad of cash.

Also, I'm wondering if the changes coming down with legalization have had any effect upon Yuki's service. I've been happy in the past. Anyone have recent info? Crater[/QUOTE]

So are you looking to spend or not? Like I said if you want to go the KTV route you need to be ready to spend around $20K NTD.

I am kind of afraid of invitations now because I have a lot of "one post" wonders that PM me for KTV, but when I test them they all went silent. One even claimed to be an ABC like me but his Chinglish really gave him away. I think something's definitely fishy here...

Abc boy

My advice. Be careful of any of those guys who have a total of 2 posts.

Anyways, I will try to meet up at some point.

W

Yesterday 7 pm passed through KeeLung city and took one quick cruise at "Railroad Streets". About 50% of the girls were under 30 years old.
For the cheap ass mongers (cost less than 1.5K), looks like the fuckable rate is better than that of TaoYuan "Long Beauty Alleys".
Aunties & grandmas were out of my radar screen. The best among the young girls was 7.5 (I saw 2). Didn't see anyone above 8. But I would take a fuck if I had time. I'll be back someday.

Went for a stroll over the bridge to Sanchong today, following the directions from main station posted in the photo gallery.

Total bust. I could not find anything or anyone resembling any form of activity. Walked around for a about 1 hour. Nothing.

There was an area of heavy road work and I saw some shacks behind, but for the life of me I could not find a way through.

Upset, I walked back to Taipei and headed toward Longshan Temple area.

Around 7PM along Guilin and Kangding Roads, there were many ladies about. Saw some early 30's, many late 30's, and plenty of 40's. Even saw some 50+.

I must have had something in my teeth because most of the girls turned away when they saw this waiguoren. One lady smiled big so she was the lucky one. A head nod from me was all she needed to head for the elevator of the nearest apartment building. No words exchanged. Couldn't talk in the elevator either because there were about 4 other people inside.

When we finally got to her room, I asked the price. She said 2000 and I agreed. I knew the price was too high, but I was already upstairs so bargaining time was over. Early 40's and under 5 feet, she had a nice butt and big tits.

She showered me, gave CBJ while I slipped a sly finger in her tightness, and then we pounded for about 20 minutes. Best part was the American porno DVD she had playing throughout.

She liked what I was about. Winded, she showered me afterward and gave me her number if I'd like a return visit. Even gave me a soda on my way out. First time a WG tipped me.

Walking out, there were two cops on scooters on the opposite side of the street just making their presence felt. Didn't seem to have any effect on the merchandise on my side of the street.

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[QUOTE=Wang Doodle]Went for a stroll over the bridge to Sanchong today, following the directions from main station posted in the photo gallery.

Total bust. I could not find anything or anyone resembling any form of activity. Walked around for a about 1 hour. Nothing.

There was an area of heavy road work and I saw some shacks behind, but for the life of me I could not find a way through.

[/QUOTE]

Sorry to see you got no action. But if you are a waiguoren, then they probably avoid you like someone with H1N1. I have to just wander around 3 min before someone comes up to my on a scooter and gives me the "nudge nudge wink wink". I think the the LE crackdown on the area, they will not take a chance on someone who is obviously there for only one reason.

Sometime racism works the other way. Glad to see you found some nice action.

Darn, two days without a post, this forum is indeed dead.

Anyway, I will be in Taiwan soon, so I will try to liven this place up with my action reports.

[QUOTE=Wang Doodle]Went for a stroll over the bridge to Sanchong today, ...
Upset, I walked back to Taipei and headed toward Longshan Temple area...[/QUOTE]
I think some houses are still open at TongAn East St.
There is another one, best quality girls (usually) but terrible rooms (always, even though they have changed several locations), in the alley (west side) of TaTung South Rd. This tricky-to-find alley is at the south of SanKaung elementary school. The north side of that school is a police precinct. If you go south (on TaTung South Rd) and then reach the road "along the river"/under construction, you have passed that trick alley.

The highest quote I got at LongShan Temple was 1.5K from the late 20s/early 30s girls. I've never bothered to ask those over 40 aunties, but one quoted me "1K". I was not interested at all.

Yesterday I went to the northeast coast with friends. After having dinner at "Temple Night Bazaar", everyone was tired and simply wanted to go home (7:30 pm). I shamelessly asked them to give me a few minutes to take a quick look at Railroad Streets.

As usual, the alley by the railroad got younger girls; the other alley got aunties. I spotted a tall leggy with great body curve, face 7.5 body 9.5 girl in her 20s. The pimp said to me "one thousand". The best body that I've ever seen at Railroad St. I hope she will be here next time when I am ready for pump (in the near future).

If you visit Railroad St. after 10 pm, harder to find a good one.

[QUOTE=Hammer_G]I think some houses are still open at TongAn East St.
There is another one, best quality girls (usually) but terrible rooms (always, even though they have changed several locations), in the alley (west side) of TaTung South Rd. This tricky-to-find alley is at the south of SanKaung elementary school. The north side of that school is a police precinct. If you go south (on TaTung South Rd) and then reach the road "along the river"/under construction, you have passed that trick alley.

The highest quote I got at LongShan Temple was 1.5K from the late 20s/early 30s girls. I've never bothered to ask those over 40 aunties, but one quoted me "1K". I was not interested at all.

Yesterday I went to the northeast coast with friends. After having dinner at "Temple Night Bazaar", everyone was tired and simply wanted to go home (7:30 pm). I shamelessly asked them to give me a few minutes to take a quick look at Railroad Streets.

As usual, the alley by the railroad got younger girls; the other alley got aunties. I spotted a tall leggy with great body curve, face 7.5 body 9.5 girl in her 20s. The pimp said to me "one thousand". The best body that I've ever seen at Railroad St. I hope she will be here next time when I am ready for pump (in the near future).

If you visit Railroad St. after 10 pm, harder to find a good one.[/QUOTE]

And you passed on her? Give her a ride and tell your friends to go take a long walk, or even better go back first.

There are places in SC still open but much more hidden. Walking around aimlessly will always get the attention of guys on mopeds. Be careful as usual but that is how I got my most recent little romp in SC.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]And you passed on her? Give her a ride and tell your friends to go take a long walk, or even better go back first.

There are places in SC still open but much more hidden. Walking around aimlessly will always get the attention of guys on mopeds. Be careful as usual but that is how I got my most recent little romp in SC.[/QUOTE]


Hi Rag,

I agree with you. but the girls in SC has been down graded and I hardly found cutie and young ones these days unlike what we have in the past like Lingling, your laopo Yu quin etc.

Last week I've been there for 3 times = 3 fucks = 3 ladies, well my mathematic still good ha! but out of 3 WG only one is younger and face just fine but the other 2 .....suks! one is about almost 40 or highier and the other one is late 30 and fat!

How I miss the good old days! but I will still do the adventure and see if things get better.

cheers,

MD

[QUOTE=Macho Dik]...but out of 3 WG only one is younger and face just fine but the other 2 .....suks! one is about almost 40 or highier and the other one is late 30 and fat!...
MD[/QUOTE]
How come you paid for something you don't want even if it's free ??
The (bad) selection was made under pimp's pressure ?

I went to another KTV on Jing Zhou road between LinSen North Road and ZhongShan East Road. Only accessible if you know a friend or manager there. Can't just walk in.
I spent 2 hours and 5000NT and receive a strip dance in the first hour and a HJ in the second (this is the minimum charge). I drank whiskey, sang a few songs, danced, ate their snacks, had tea at the end, etc. All in all I tend to agree with Rag, that it is an expensive HJ, but it is fun to play with 18-20 year old cuties. They do have special service girls, but be sure to ask for them up front. BJ is 1500NT added. Full service is 4K added. Special service girl called "Lu guang" she has some really nice firm titties.
IMHO this place only fun if you speak decent Chinese. Otherwise boring. English song selection really bad.

Seniors PM me for phone number and address.

[QUOTE=Jammin 2]I went to another KTV on Jing Zhou road between LinSen North Road and ZhongShan East Road. Only accessible if you know a friend or manager there. Can't just walk in.
I spent 2 hours and 5000NT and receive a strip dance in the first hour and a HJ in the second (this is the minimum charge). I drank whiskey, sang a few songs, danced, ate their snacks, had tea at the end, etc. All in all I tend to agree with Rag, that it is an expensive HJ, but it is fun to play with 18-20 year old cuties. They do have special service girls, but be sure to ask for them up front. BJ is 1500NT added. Full service is 4K added. Special service girl called "Lu guang" she has some really nice firm titties.
IMHO this place only fun if you speak decent Chinese. Otherwise boring. English song selection really bad.

Seniors PM me for phone number and address.[/QUOTE]

Sounds good i will PM you but for the time being have to save my money for my little fuck toy whose birthday is coming up. Should get her a little something for all the good times she had given me.

Maybe when our godfather comes into town next time we can all go out.

hey guys,

a friend of mine recently returned from taipei, and he passed this along to me and i will try it out when i'm in taipei. he says that the mcd in ximending is becoming a center for young girls to make a quick buck. simply go there, order a soda, sit around and spot some girls that are also there alone, pretending to study or chatting in a group. make eye contact, smile, and they will come to you to negotiate, price varies but 3k is usually enough (desperate ones will settle for 2k). he got one for 2k and after the job is done he asked how much for second and the girl replied 1k, so he got another shot.

i haven't try this nor heard of this before, but i'll try it when i'm in taipei next week and let you know.

but warning, make sure they are adults (18 or over) because he says some of them are really young and you might get into seriously crap if you're not careful. don't be a ****.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Sounds good i will PM you but for the time being have to save my money for my little fuck toy whose birthday is coming up. Should get her a little something for all the good times she had given me.

Maybe when our godfather comes into town next time we can all go out.[/QUOTE]

Maybe if you guys are up to it PM me too and let's rock. I know a KTV that has the most girls, and even the hostess is hot as hell. Last time I didn't even bother to ask for selections but just ask the hostess to sit her ass down (and then later on....)

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]... the McD in Ximending is becoming a center for young girls to make a quick buck. Simply go there, order a soda, sit around and spot some girls that are also there alone, pretending to study or chatting in a group. Make eye contact, smile, and they will come to you to negotiate, price varies but 3K is usually enough (desperate ones will settle for 2K). He got one for 2K and after the job is done he asked how much for second and the girl replied 1K, so he got another shot.[/QUOTE]Hmm, where was your friend taken to... a "workshop" or a love motel? I would suspect that the LE will catch on to this quick as the Micky D there isn't exactly located at a low profile spot.

[quote=abc boy]hey guys,

a friend of mine recently returned from taipei, and he passed this along to me and i will try it out when i'm in taipei. he says that the mcd in ximending is becoming a center for young girls to make a quick buck. simply go there, order a soda, sit around and spot some girls that are also there alone, pretending to study or chatting in a group. make eye contact, smile, and they will come to you to negotiate, price varies but 3k is usually enough (desperate ones will settle for 2k). he got one for 2k and after the job is done he asked how much for second and the girl replied 1k, so he got another shot.

i haven't try this nor heard of this before, but i'll try it when i'm in taipei next week and let you know.

but warning, make sure they are adults (18 or over) because he says some of them are really young and you might get into seriously crap if you're not careful. don't be a ****.[/quote]

the mcd is well known for a long time as a place for high school girls to make some extra money by banging old (and i do mean old) geezers for a quick buck. go there and you will lots of old men with their canes sloched over waiting to be approached. recently the mcd has been replaced by a dept. store and i think the le have really come down hard on the place. the last "girl" i saw picking up an old man was so hideous even he was reluctant. but since he was pushing 80 i guess he decided he shouldnt be choosy. ;-)

[quote=ragnarok42]the mcd is well known for a long time as a place for high school girls to make some extra money by banging old (and i do mean old) geezers for a quick buck. go there and you will lots of old men with their canes sloched over waiting to be approached. recently the mcd has been replaced by a dept. store and i think the le have really come down hard on the place. the last "girl" i saw picking up an old man was so hideous even he was reluctant. but since he was pushing 80 i guess he decided he shouldnt be choosy. ;-)[/quote]

oh, no way then. i'm not a ****. i'll stick with the early 20s ktv girls then.

[quote=abc boy]oh, no way then. i'm not a ****. i'll stick with the early 20s ktv girls then.[/quote]

good idea. while they dont prosecute "johns" here they will go after ****s.

lets all be safe in our playing brothers.

Hi Guys,

Am venturing over to Taipei on business, first time ever.

Would be grateful for some contact details of english speaking outcallers who will be 'gentle with me' :)

I appreciate a lot of coverage has been made here but just wanted to try and get the low down and up-to-date info on recommendations, if possible, either here or via PM.

Also, does anyone know if the people over at the Sheraton take kindly to 'visitors'?

Thanks for any help.

Pete

[QUOTE=The Pete]Am venturing over to Taipei on business, first time ever.

Would be grateful for some contact details of english speaking outcallers who will be 'gentle with me' :)

[/QUOTE]

Can't be much help with English speaking providers, there are plenty that cater to English speakers (such as Yuki, etc.) just be sure you dont overpay and you probably wont get anything outstanding since you are a one-timer and they usually wont risk their good girls.

Unless you speak fluent Chinese I would not recommend you try any of the places discussed on the forum (meaning SC, which can be hit or miss these days), for a sure thing hit Ceasers sauna in Asiaworld. They are pros at dealing with visitors.

Good luck.

Hi,

This is my first time in Taiwan. I lived in the PRC for a few years and will be in Thailand next week, so I am not that desperate to try the local offer. But last night I walked around the area near the Longshan Temple and the night market and noticed quite a lot of WG. Some a bit old but also younger ones. I asked a middle aged woman and she said 800. Another indicated sth like a BJ? I only speak very limited Chinese.

Having read through a couple of the more recent pages of the forum, I am not sure what to make of this situation. Obviously prostitution is/has been illegal in Taiwan, so how come there are so many WGs - any changes in the law recently?

If I went with one of them, what would be the things to observe and the risks I'd run? Scams, overcharging, bad service???

Would the 800 include the room and what is the usual time allowance?
What is the service - HJ, BJ or ...? I;d actually be more interested in a BJ, perhaps covered would be safer?

I'm at a small hotel, so I don't think they would be too happy about a guest and as I said, I'll be in Bangkok next Monday. So, should I save my money or give it a tru - some of the ladies there, although a bit older were not bad looking ...

I'd appreciate any info and if anyone is around for some mild, budget-conscious mongering, perhaps we could meet up. I'm not that young myself any more - early 50ies.

I's appreciate any comments. Thanks. Cheers House 007

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Unless you speak fluent Chinese I would not recommend you try any of the places discussed on the forum (meaning SC, which can be hit or miss these days), for a sure thing hit Ceasers sauna in Asiaworld. They are pros at dealing with visitors.
[/QUOTE]

Good advice. If you are traveling from China to Thailand via Taiwan, be sure and get your fix before you leave and hold it until you are in Bangkok. If you really want to get a taste here, call Yuki or some similar service although you probably are going to get a mainland girl anyway.

Visit 101 and the museum and save the mongering for easier places.

[QUOTE=House007]Having read through a couple of the more recent pages of the forum, I am not sure what to make of this situation.[/QUOTE]

Longshan is an old reliable, not really changing in the past thirty years.

This includes the ladies.

[QUOTE=House007]Obviously prostitution is/has been illegal in Taiwan, so how come there are so many WGs - any changes in the law recently?[/QUOTE]

Who knows? This is Taiwan where stuff like this happens all over. My guess is that they stay in a certain area and keep to themselves. I have wandered all over that area and there are borders where you never see a working girl beyond.

[QUOTE=House007]
If I went with one of them, what would be the things to observe and the risks I'd run? Scams, overcharging, bad service???[/QUOTE]

No, nothing like you would get in other countries. I wrote about getting scammed there a year or so back but as long as you agree to what you want in advance, you should be fine. Service isn't going to be that good in all likelihood.

[QUOTE=House007]Would the 800 include the room and what is the usual time allowance? What is the service - HJ, BJ or ...? I;d actually be more interested in a BJ, perhaps covered would be safer?
[/QUOTE]

The 'rooms' are going to be beds in buildings with partitioned walls and are included. You probably are going to have around 15 minutes and will probably get a HJ, if you like, and FS. If you wander over to the mo-mo tea shops, you will need to pay something like $300 for the room but FS isn't agreed upon in advance, usually, and you are left to bargain for the rest.

Honestly, save your cash for Bangkok although it could be a fun experience. PM me what part of town you are staying in if you have more questions.

Thanks for the heads up and very useful advice for a newbie to TPE.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Exile]Good advice. If you are traveling from China to Thailand via Taiwan, be sure and get your fix before you leave and hold it until you are in Bangkok. If you really want to get a taste here, call Yuki or some similar service although you probably are going to get a mainland girl anyway.

Visit 101 and the museum and save the mongering for easier places.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Pete]Thanks for the heads up and very useful advice for a newbie to TPE.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Hope you enjoyed our little corner of mongering hell.
I envy those guys with both the economic and marital status means to take trips to Bangkok, Chang Ping or other places on mongering weekends.

Hope things get interesting here sometime soon. This place is a tomb.

Hello guys. This time I told my manager that I wanted a model, and he delivered!

The new KTV place is call "Huang Dhui" (my pinyin is horrible so this is probably wrong), that in English they translate themselves to "Emperor Club". Anyway, it's supposed to be the upscale KTVs. The girls do not do strip dance, but because they don't do strip dance therefore they are higher quality. Usually they are part-time models, flight attendants, etc. and if you lucky you can get newbie TV/movie stars.

Anyway, the place is at intersection of Duan Hua and Ba De (right next to Toyota Dealership.) Take the elevator and it's the 2F. Walk in, give my manager's name, and they took me to a room. A service guy quickly told me the girl reserved by my manager is ready and should he send her in, I was like, WTF, did I come here to drink tea? Send her in already.

Her name is "Xiao Yu" ("small rain") and she told me she's part-time model and you can see her in magazines making poses. Anyway, face is 9, body shape is 9, but chest is 5, just a B-cup. Anyway, we chatted and she spoke English to me as soon as she found out I'm ABC, and she is very aggressive, sit on my lap and sing songs and rob me up a bit.

Anyway, then of course I took her out and we do our thing at Ya Bo instead of WeGo (only $980 to rest, way cheaper than $1500 by WeGo). She is very good in bed and talked dirty to me in English... lol. After we're done she wanted to walk around but I got what I wanted, so I told her I still have jet lag and I needed to go home to rest, see ya!

Total monetary damage: (model rate: $2000/hr)

$8000 take out fee
$7000 special fee (model rate)
$2000 room fee
$1000 tip
$1000 beer fee

Total: $19K

Ok, I think I'll call my manager to setup another one today and see if he can top this one, and this time I'm going to emphasize at least a C cup damn it.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Hello guys. This time I told my manager that I wanted a model, and he delivered!

The new KTV place is call "Huang Dhui" (my pinyin is horrible so this is probably wrong), that in English they translate themselves to "Emperor Club". Anyway, it's supposed to be the upscale KTVs. The girls do not do strip dance, but because they don't do strip dance therefore they are higher quality. Usually they are part-time models, flight attendants, etc. and if you lucky you can get newbie TV/movie stars.

Anyway, the place is at intersection of Duan Hua and Ba De (right next to Toyota Dealership.) Take the elevator and it's the 2F. Walk in, give my manager's name, and they took me to a room. A service guy quickly told me the girl reserved by my manager is ready and should he send her in, I was like, WTF, did I come here to drink tea? Send her in already.

Her name is "Xiao Yu" ("small rain") and she told me she's part-time model and you can see her in magazines making poses. Anyway, face is 9, body shape is 9, but chest is 5, just a B-cup. Anyway, we chatted and she spoke English to me as soon as she found out I'm ABC, and she is very aggressive, sit on my lap and sing songs and rob me up a bit.

Anyway, then of course I took her out and we do our thing at Ya Bo instead of WeGo (only $980 to rest, way cheaper than $1500 by WeGo). She is very good in bed and talked dirty to me in English... lol. After we're done she wanted to walk around but I got what I wanted, so I told her I still have jet lag and I needed to go home to rest, see ya!

Total monetary damage: (model rate: $2000/hr)

$8000 take out fee
$7000 special fee (model rate)
$2000 room fee
$1000 tip
$1000 beer fee

Total: $19K

Ok, I think I'll call my manager to setup another one today and see if he can top this one, and this time I'm going to emphasize at least a C cup damn it.[/QUOTE]

Great report ABC, too rich for my blood but seems you had fun.

If you PM me i can tell of a place on LinShen and Mingshen that has rest for 680. Nice rooms and I use it all the time.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Hello guys. This time I told my manager that I wanted a model, and he delivered!

The new KTV place is call "Huang Dhui" (my pinyin is horrible so this is probably wrong), that in English they translate themselves to "Emperor Club". Anyway, it's supposed to be the upscale KTVs. The girls do not do strip dance, but because they don't do strip dance therefore they are higher quality. Usually they are part-time models, flight attendants, etc. And if you lucky you can get newbie TV/movie stars.

Anyway, the place is at intersection of Duan Hua and Ba De (right next to Toyota Dealership.) Take the elevator and it's the 2F. Walk in, give my manager's name, and they took me to a room. A service guy quickly told me the girl reserved by my manager is ready and should he send her in, I was like, WTF, did I come here to drink tea? Send her in already.

Her name is "Xiao Yu" ("small rain") and she told me she's part-time model and you can see her in magazines making poses. Anyway, face is 9, body shape is 9, but chest is 5, just a B-cup. Anyway, we chatted and she spoke English to me as soon as she found out I'm ABC, and she is very aggressive, sit on my lap and sing songs and rob me up a bit.

Anyway, then of course I took her out and we do our thing at Ya Bo instead of WeGo (only $980 to rest, way cheaper than $1500 by WeGo). She is very good in bed and talked dirty to me in English. LOL. After we're done she wanted to walk around but I got what I wanted, so I told her I still have jet lag and I needed to go home to rest, see ya!

Total monetary damage: (model rate: $2000/hr)

$8000 take out fee
$7000 special fee (model rate)
$2000 room fee
$1000 tip
$1000 beer fee

Total: $19K

Ok, I think I'll call my manager to setup another one today and see if he can top this one, and this time I'm going to emphasize at least a C cup damn it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I've always wondered how the place is as I walk by the place during the late evenings all the time. Usually there are some high-powered automobiles parked in front so you know the place is high class. Sometimes I get glimpses of hotties going in and out with lucky dudes and I guess one of them was you! ;.)

I've had freebies from Roxy 99.

There are many English speakers there. Younger girls (<30) will talk to you and likely exchange phone numbers. Mostly they're with their friends, so could be some work separating them from the pack.

The cougars will take you to their place and shag you rotten.

The place doesn't really get going until after 12:30AM.

Went back to Emperor's Club again (Ba De Road and Duan Hua Road), and this time got myself a hottie that looked like a Japanese AV movie star.

Same drill, this time I paid $20K as I spent additional 30 minutes in the club house.

Her name is "Yoguer" if you are visiting, and she's well worth it. She even screams like a Japanese AV movie star in bed.

Face 9, Body 9, Breast 7.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Went back to Emperor's Club again (Ba De Road and Duan Hua Road), and this time got myself a hottie that looked like a Japanese AV movie star.

Same drill, this time I paid $20K as I spent additional 30 minutes in the club house.

Her name is "Yoguer" if you are visiting, and she's well worth it. She even screams like a Japanese AV movie star in bed.

Face 9, Body 9, Breast 7.[/QUOTE]

Nice.............

Sure she wasnt making a movie? You will show up on the AV shelfs here in GuangHua, haha.

hahaha, yeah, actually I am afraid that my "work" in these hotels will be show on some amateur porn sites where they install these secret cams. But oh well.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Went back to Emperor's Club again (Ba De Road and Duan Hua Road), and this time got myself a hottie that looked like a Japanese AV movie star.

Same drill, this time I paid $20K as I spent additional 30 minutes in the club house ...[/QUOTE]

Just reflecting on your post Abc ...

Recently took my Filipina regular on a 3-hr romp. (Coulda been longer, but I was exhausted and the insipid conversation gets old fast.) Two pops, the first down her throat, the second in her anal cavity. A sweet rim job with the tip of her tongue. Lots of deepthroat practice and light gagging. We ended with a long anal pounding - she text me 48 hrs later that her anus is no longer sore. NT$1610 all-in: NT$810 for the room, NT$300 for drinks, snacks & supplies, and an NT$500 gratuity - 'cause I'm such a nice guy. And she is texting me every other day to make sure I put her on my sched on her next day off.

Not so long ago I would have also paid NT$20k for a Taiwanese hottie. Lately though, thinking I'd be reluctant to pay out so much to a girl who aims to profit from a more fortunate birth.

This isn't to knock you in any way ABC. You are getting convenience, and an entirely different experience. And it took me several months of active mongering to find this girl - no small investment. Still, there is an argument to be made that expensive hotties from high-end KTVs are not necessarily all that. At this moment I can't help but think I'd be disappointed, no matter how good she looked or how many movies she starred in. It would be interesting to hear more about how these girls perform, and/or whether you encounter any prima donna attitude. What to they ask for, and where do they draw their lines?

Again, I hope this didn't come off the wrong way. Good mongering all ...

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Hello guys. This time I told my manager that I wanted a model, and he delivered!

The new KTV place is call "Huang Dhui" (my pinyin is horrible so this is probably wrong), that in English they translate themselves to "Emperor Club". Anyway, it's supposed to be the upscale KTVs. The girls do not do strip dance, but because they don't do strip dance therefore they are higher quality. Usually they are part-time models, flight attendants, etc. and if you lucky you can get newbie TV/movie stars.

Anyway, the place is at intersection of Duan Hua and Ba De (right next to Toyota Dealership.) Take the elevator and it's the 2F. Walk in, give my manager's name, and they took me to a room. A service guy quickly told me the girl reserved by my manager is ready and should he send her in, I was like, WTF, did I come here to drink tea? Send her in already.

Her name is "Xiao Yu" ("small rain") and she told me she's part-time model and you can see her in magazines making poses. Anyway, face is 9, body shape is 9, but chest is 5, just a B-cup. Anyway, we chatted and she spoke English to me as soon as she found out I'm ABC, and she is very aggressive, sit on my lap and sing songs and rob me up a bit.

Anyway, then of course I took her out and we do our thing at Ya Bo instead of WeGo (only $980 to rest, way cheaper than $1500 by WeGo). She is very good in bed and talked dirty to me in English... lol. After we're done she wanted to walk around but I got what I wanted, so I told her I still have jet lag and I needed to go home to rest, see ya!

Total monetary damage: (model rate: $2000/hr)

$8000 take out fee
$7000 special fee (model rate)
$2000 room fee
$1000 tip
$1000 beer fee

Total: $19K

Ok, I think I'll call my manager to setup another one today and see if he can top this one, and this time I'm going to emphasize at least a C cup damn it.[/QUOTE]


ABC,

You spent over $600.00 US for take out? Wow, Taiwan is more expensive than most places now, I would say.

PC out

I'm interested in these momo places near Longshan that were mentioned a few days ago. How can I find them exactly? And will I get along without speaking any Chinese? I don't want to talk... just kiss and grope, possibly also FS (but that's not a must).

Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=Houziwang]Just reflecting on your post Abc ...

Not so long ago I would have also paid NT$20k for a Taiwanese hottie. Lately though, thinking I'd be reluctant to pay out so much to a girl who aims to profit from a more fortunate birth.

It would be interesting to hear more about how these girls perform, and/or whether you encounter any prima donna attitude. What to they ask for, and where do they draw their lines?

Again, I hope this didn't come off the wrong way. Good mongering all ...[/QUOTE]

Hahahaha, very good questions, I will attempt to provide an answer and why I want to spend that much.

During my younger days I would also search for economy options, however, I find the whole experience horrific on a few fronts that's related to your questions.

1) Usually they are indifferent attitude and just want to get it over with, get your money, and leave

2) I feel like f--king a dog and blow off steam, but that's not my style, I want to m-k- love and not just to have s--

3) Sometimes they even have bad attitude and will rush you.

Now, I am not saying all economic options are like this, but overall that's my general experience.

Ok, why KTV option is worth the money:

1) The girls are especially train to treat you BETTER than their own boyfriend, you are literally their master and they are you s-- slave. They will do all they could to please you, talk to you as if you're the most interesting person in the world, etc.

2) In fun time they will listen to all of your demands and then go above and beyond

3) Pretty much you are the Emperor and they are you Concubine

I hope that's enough hint on why I think it's worth it to pay $20K

But that's just me

Ok guys, don't ask for her, she is nice and friendly but she plays the con game. She thinks I'm some innocent dorky guy and told me that she's going to Koushiung tomorrow to help with the 88 storm disaster and wanted me to donor money for this good cause.... I was like, yeah right, whatever, but I said oh I already donated a lot of money.

She is still great in service and all. Very friendly and talk to you like she's your best friend and then some. Very accomodating in play time and yes screams like Japanese AV, but that attempt to con me completely turned me off and it took me awhile to lift my little brother up.

Well... actually do go for her and ram her good, just don't be fool by that innocence, remember they are "pros" for a reason. LOL

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]
I hope that's enough hint on why I think it's worth it to pay $20K

But that's just me[/QUOTE]

More power to your brother. If I had the means and the time I would ride those girls all the time too. Finding cheap girls you actually enjoy spending time in bed with are not easy and I do tend to go back to the ones where I have had a good time with. Usually they remember you and by the second, third, fourth times they really get into it and start fucking you like they boyfriend / lover.

But do the math and it comes out to about as much as you pay for one time with a willing and enthusiastic hottie.

Tonight I have to say it even went beyond my expectations. My manager once again went above and beyond. I told him that he has set the bar really high and now I won't be satisfy unless it's model quality. He took me to three KTVs, no luck, and finally we went back to the Emperor's Club (Ba De road and Duan Hua North Road) and he told me to wait a few minutes and he will go talk to the big boss for me, I was like oh sh!t... I don't want no gangsta boss coming in and rough me up a bit for being a picky customer. Anyway, before I can react he left.

A few minutes later he returned and told me that the big boss agreed to let me have a member of their "top girl circle" that they only reserved for extreme VIPs (politicians, other gangsta bosses, etc.) I found out it's because I'm not local and they can tell other local customers that I'm a "foreign VIP", anyway, whatever works.

I was suspicious on how great this girl can be, and in walks in a TEN! And I mean a TEN! She is Taiwanese but she looks like a "mixed blood child". She is so hot that she reminds me of this hot Taiwan actress that I used to adore in my teenage days.

10 Face
10 Body (she thinks she's too fat, but I do not think so, she's just perfect)
8 breast (not great but can be grab.)

Very talkative as soon as she walks in, keep on talking to me as if I'm his white knight. Then we sing some songs, and played some games, and then we went out and do the usual. I guess she's used to the WeGo motel because she was very disappointed that we went to Alper. After shower we did our thing and she was lazy on top which was a disappointment, but her moan and face and body quickly overcome that deficiency. Missionary position she was great and even aggressively kisses me while I ram her hard.

Anyway, her name is "Ke Er" (the first word is the Chinese word for Coke, and the second word is the Chinese word for Son), and DO GET HER IF YOU CAN at Emperor's Club, any other woman seems like Whoopi Goldberg compare to her. If they let you that is... she told me she's surprised to serve me because she's usually booked from 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. daily, and she's so tire but she has no choice because VIPs keep booking her. I only booked her from 7:30 to 12:30 and that makes her happy because it means she can go home and sleep afterwards

Ok, total damage: $21K (extra 2K for extra hour of fun, yes she was that good.)

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]

Anyway, her name is "Ke Er" (the first word is the Chinese word for Coke, and the second word is the Chinese word for Son), and DO GET HER IF YOU CAN at Emperor's Club, any other woman seems like Whoopi Goldberg compare to her. If they let you that is... she told me she's surprised to serve me because she's usually booked from 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. daily, and she's so tire but she has no choice because VIPs keep booking her. I only booked her from 7:30 to 12:30 and that makes her happy because it means she can go home and sleep afterwards

Ok, total damage: $21K (extra 2K for extra hour of fun, yes she was that good.)[/QUOTE]

haha ok buddy now you are just hurting us ;-P
Taipei is filled with hot babes, good to see you have to opportunity to plow some of them.

Nice reports but stop making me wish my last name was Rockefeller, haha.

Ok, this is my final conquest before I head back to the States to work my ass off until next time. I have struggled very hard what to do next. Should I re-order Ke-er and enjoy the superhottie again? But then again that's not my style, I like to sample different women rather than stick with one. But damn Ke-er is sooooo fine.... but something I left out in my last report that kind of turned me off a bit, and that is she acts like a diva from time to time, and I don't really like that.

Anyway, so I told my manager I want a new girl, and I can tell he is burning inside but outside he's like "sure sure, I will try my best." Ok, sends in one, I would say she's 8 face, 9 body, 9 chest, but like I said I want model rating now (9 rating or more) so I bumped her. Then in come another girl, yuck, 6 face at best (thought 9 body and chest again), so bumped. Third girl, 7 face, 10 body, 10 chest... I'm struggling... my little brother says yes so I say yes.

However, after 5 minutes my manager sends in another girl, 9 face, 9 body, 8 chest, and I said "change!" Her name is Guo Dong (like the frozen food.) She is clearly in her high 20s but she looks great at her age, and immediately I did not regret the change because the other girl doesn't chat up well and only smiles, but this one chats like a real lady, and I mean a lady. Not some little girl chats but she chats like a business woman (imagine a sexy kitten business woman.) Then we went out to eat and I took her to Outback Steakhouse, and she was amazed at the portions served there.

Finally, we went to Alpers and did our thing. And if "bed performance" has a rating she is an easy 10 - great foreplay, great kissing (all over), and great moaning and rides like a real pro (Taiwanese girls typically are sucky at top, but not her.) Then we did missionary and finish up with doggy style.

I have to say this trip to Taipei is probably my most successful mongering to date.

Oh cost: $19K

I have to say this trip to Taipei is probably my most successful mongering to date.

Oh cost: $19K[/QUOTE]ABC Boy,

Thank you for your report, I can reconfirm with everyone that Emperor does have some of finest selection in Taipei. I myself was rewarded from a friend for a business connection I've made for him (a handsome commission as well). My friend is a VIP client to Emperor and use them often for his European clients and yes they do cater to some of the elites in Taipei. It was about a month and half ago after my friend has sucessfully secure the deals I've made for him. To celebrate he picked me up at my office and told me there is a suprise waiting for me. To make a long story short, we both were escort with 2 very fine looking girls, mine, her name is xiao ru (? ) with high heel she stands about 5, 8 and got a pair of legs to die for. Good size cup, just beautiful eyes and silk-like skin. My friend's companion was bit on skinnier side for me but still breathtaking. We went to Zhong Xiao E Rd section 6 had hotpot and got ourself a room in Tango. After before we head into the room, my friend said have fun tonite, it's been taking care of until tomorrow. As I got into the room she has made herself comfortable and started water to fill the tub, we chatted for a bit as I found a bit more about her. Then she ask if I would like to join her for a quick shower to clean up ourself, sure enough, less than few mins after we got in, she already got her mouth full, it was decent not the best I have but her dreamy eye and effort makes up for it. Then we moved to tub and just chill for a bit with the tv on. She is pretty good at giving a rub and kept the conversation going. I felt like I was talking to my gf the entire night and forgot what she really is. We manage to do the deed in the tub and pop the second load while she is riding on me. By that time I was pretty tired and dry ourself up and head to bed. Just when I lay on the bed, she pour me a glass of water and sit it next to my bed table and manage and light up a smoke for me. Then she ask me what time I would like the wake up call to be and called the front desk. It's pretty amazing her attention to details and the service provided. Then as we are chilling on the bed watching tv she came snuggle to me as I was her love of the life. Needless to say I was pretty tired and fall asleep pretty fast. I did told her if she wants to watch tv or whatever is fine for me even if she wants to leave. She smiled and continue watching tv. For sure I thought she will be gone by the time I wake up to my suprise I was waken with my dingdong in her mouth. Wow, this girl does not stop pleasing me in the way every man should be pleased. Anyhow, called my friend as he was gone already and I took the morning off from work. Took her breakfast well almost lunch and gave her NT2000(tip) which she refuse to take b/c of the arrangement my friend had. The entire night was about as perfect as it can get for a monger. Awesome attitude, excellent service both on bed or off bed, she folded my clothes and hang in the closet, make me a coffee after my morning awakening, join me for a another quick shower in the morning and had my clothes laid on the bed by the time I got out of shower. This is the type of service I wish I can be afford often, it is pretty hard to experience this type of service and go back to a just get it over with type of thing. I don't know the actual cost as it's quite rude to ask, however, I'm planning to repeat the experience myself once a year as a birthday treat to myself.

ABC Boy, have safe trip back to the US, and if anyone on the forum wants to meet up sometimes just to hang out, please do let me know as I still need friends in Taiwan. Cheers.

BTW Outback in XinYi makes mean Long Island.

after months of reading about caesar's, but opting for streetwalkers and mp's runned by betlenut aficionados, i finally took the plunge.

for newbies, here's a brief intro.

key point: no chinese speaking required.

caesar's is on top of asiaworld on the corner of nanjing e rd and dunhua rd. it's a 5-minute walk from nanjing e rd mrt station.

go inside and take the elevator to 15f. head to the front desk nearby and the staff will almost trip over each other trying to give you your locker key. a dude will walk you to the locker area. take your shoes off on the way and give them to another dude.

get naked and go to the shower area overlooking the pools. shower up and take a dip or a steam if you'd like. did i mention you will be buck naked? very relaxing. take your time or skip it. there's no time limit.

now for the good stuff. put on the pajamas and head into the lounge area. you will get tea and you can order other snacks or drinks. a woman with an earpiece will ask if you want a massage. nod, say yes, or say yao (rhymes with cow). she will repeat, inserting the english word special into her chinese. repeat previous response. she'll ask if you want a particular number girl. if you like surprises like me, just shrug like it does not matter.

when you're ready, she'll walk you upstairs. on the way you will see a mural of a guy that looks like chevy chase. (anyone else notice this? )

your girl will arrive to your room and take care of everything. just agree.

okay, now for my session. my girl was late-30's with a very petite figure, but large tits. we spoke in chinese, but her english was pretty good. she removed my pj's and gave me a hard massage while i was covered with towels. the towels were removed and she got naked before pouring some hot liquid on my back and rubbing her ass and pussy all over my back and butt. she then elevated my hips and began playing milk-the-cow with my dick. there were some fingers on and around the asshole, but no penetration.

she turned me over and went right into cbj with some ball licking. she then hopped on for some great cowgirl action. she pulled me to a sitting up position and we grinded like that for a bit. then into missionary. this really got her going. so much so that she was grabbing all over and holding me in certain positions at times so she could grind and get hers. after she was spent, i wanted another position so i tried to put her ankles above my shoulders. she would have none of that so i finished up with her pussy doing kegel contractions around my dick.

she was all giggles after the act and started giving me kisses on the cheek and chest. she told me to lay down and then draped me with towels. she showered up and then it was my turn.

i asked which number she was and she said number 27. i might see her again.

face = 7

body = 8

tits = 7

attitude = 9

i got dressed back in the locker room, picked up my shined shoes, and got to the cashier. a printed statement of nt$4300 was handed to me. i paid and left. so easy.

i took the elevator down to 1f and a girl that just finished her shift was in the same elevator. she would not look my direction at all. i wanted to ask which number she was. for next time.

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[QUOTE=Roni44]ABC Boy,

Awesome attitude, excellent service both on bed or off bed, she folded my clothes and hang in the closet, make me a coffee after my morning awakening, join me for a another quick shower in the morning and had my clothes laid on the bed by the time I got out of shower. This is the type of service I wish I can be afford often, it is pretty hard to experience this type of service and go back to a just get it over with type of thing. I don't know the actual cost as it's quite rude to ask, however, I'm planning to repeat the experience myself once a year as a birthday treat to myself.[/QUOTE]Lucky dude. This gal is probably one of their top girls and only available to VIPs. Even if we want to book her we probably won't be able to.

And if you start dividing the total cost by the total number of pops, the cost starts to drop logarithmatically and starts to approach bearable levels!

[QUOTE=Roni44]As I got into the room she has made herself comfortable and started water to fill the tub ... I'm planning to repeat the experience myself once a year as a birthday treat to myself.
[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the description. Sounds like great service for the traveling exec who needs some pampering. I can definitely see it. This wasn't really clear from ABC's posts. I've been to one of these clubs ... but was with a bunch of colleagues and we didn't take out. Neither I nor my colleagues (to my knowledge) were mongers at the time, so it was an odd experience. I think our boss practically lived at this club and just wanted to take everyone on an outing. It was a little surreal at the time. Now it makes more sense. Hahaha!

It goes without saying, though, that someone living here in need of some uninhibited services doesn't need to pay those exorbitant rates. Even if these club girls were NT$1k, I'd still meet one of my regulars, because they are trained up to my particular tastes, and that in itself is no small investment.

Thanks again for the detailed report.

Went out partying on Sat. and after being at the club got me in the mood. Called my provider at 2AM and she sent a girl the the usual place. Was ok girl with long legs and thin body. Definately China girland we had a pretty good time. But I was still aching to go but didnt want to spend another 4K so I decided to try SC. Should be safe at this hour right?

The cab dropped me off at the park and I didnt feel too safe even at this hour. So I started to walk away from the park along a street I knew I would be sollicited on. Saw some ppl hanging out and when I approached them the women motioned me to the alley next door. Long and dark and a lady opened it to reveal a shack with about 8 or 9 girls. Most were cute but one caught my eye. Long thin legs and curly hair with sexy thick lips. We went upstairs and the rooms were nice. Carpet on the floor and clean. We had a good time and she drained me clean and enjoyed every minute of it. When I was leaving I saw that all the rooms (4 in all were occupied, business is good).

Price is the standard 1500 and the selection looks good. So happy to say I finally had a good time at SC again and will try to go back.

[QUOTE=Paradise Bay]Lucky dude. This gal is probably one of their top girls and only available to VIPs. Even if we want to book her we probably won't be able to.

And if you start dividing the total cost by the total number of pops, the cost starts to drop logarithmatically and starts to approach bearable levels![/QUOTE]Well, if anyone wants to indulge yourself for a night with the top performers, I'm pretty sure I'm able to do something, might require a little tip to the "manager", but it's doable. The "manager" knows who I am and my friend has already got me in the VIP list. I have gone back there few times but didn't do the take out. Too rich for my blood and in the process saving up for the weddiing. And each time I was offered the "special edition" and man I can't not believe the girls were offered on the table, I mean if I want a trophy wife, look no further then the girls standing before my eyes. It just puzzle me so much that it would've been easy for them to score a rich guy as meal ticket instead of working.

I've been following the monger scene in TP for a bit now, here is an area that no one has mention or talk about it. Between Taipei Main Station and XiMenTing (ZhongHua Rd) behind Cash Box, where most of audio/video/camera retail stores reside, in between and few on the sides, there are barber shops with big front tinted glass some of them have neon light as well, look into the glass all of them have this small room with few sofa that have 3 to 5 ladies sitting chatting and so on, then there is another door that will go into whatever is behind. I've manage to pass those barber shops many times and even made quite a few eye contacts, when they notice me, they always try to get my attention and wave at me. However, I have always ignored with my headphone on and kept walking. The ladies are older than what I like, but I did see few that were ok if I just need a quick release. Does anyone have information regarding to the shops I was talking about? .

[QUOTE=Roni44]Well, if anyone wants to indulge yourself for a night with the top performers, I'm pretty sure I'm able to do something, might require a little tip to the "manager", but it's doable. The "manager" knows who I am and my friend has already got me in the VIP list. I have gone back there few times but didn't do the take out. Too rich for my blood and in the process saving up for the weddiing. And each time I was offered the "special edition" and man I can't not believe the girls were offered on the table, I mean if I want a trophy wife, look no further then the girls standing before my eyes. It just puzzle me so much that it would've been easy for them to score a rich guy as meal ticket instead of working.

I've been following the monger scene in TP for a bit now, here is an area that no one has mention or talk about it. Between Taipei Main Station and XiMenTing (ZhongHua Rd) behind Cash Box, where most of audio/video/camera retail stores reside, in between and few on the sides, there are barber shops with big front tinted glass some of them have neon light as well, look into the glass all of them have this small room with few sofa that have 3 to 5 ladies sitting chatting and so on, then there is another door that will go into whatever is behind. I've manage to pass those barber shops many times and even made quite a few eye contacts, when they notice me, they always try to get my attention and wave at me. However, I have always ignored with my headphone on and kept walking. The ladies are older than what I like, but I did see few that were ok if I just need a quick release. Does anyone have information regarding to the shops I was talking about? .[/QUOTE]
With regards to the first half of your post, what can you do to help with a manager? Do you have a name or phone number that you can post or PM me. Much appreciated.

I know the barbershops, got taken upstairs to a really small not so clean room. Felt like a holloween movie, then a 40+ lady comes upstairs, I decline. They started at 3500NT, and as i was leaving said o.k. how about 2800? I was simply not aroused by the offerings, so I left. To compare, the quality looked extremely similar to those behind, next to the temple, one MRT away from Xinmending.

[QUOTE=Roni44]I've been following the monger scene in TP for a bit now, here is an area that no one has mention or talk about it. Between Taipei Main Station and XiMenTing (ZhongHua Rd) behind Cash Box, where most of audio/video/camera retail stores reside, in between and few on the sides, there are barber shops with big front tinted glass some of them have neon light as well, look into the glass all of them have this small room with few sofa that have 3 to 5 ladies sitting chatting and so on, then there is another door that will go into whatever is behind. I've manage to pass those barber shops many times and even made quite a few eye contacts, when they notice me, they always try to get my attention and wave at me. However, I have always ignored with my headphone on and kept walking. The ladies are older than what I like, but I did see few that were ok if I just need a quick release. Does anyone have information regarding to the shops I was talking about? .[/QUOTE]

I reported on them here several months ago and they have been talked about at least twice before in this thread. They are about the only place that really requires bargaining as they really seem to like to start high in their pricing and, considering the quality, I have never found them to be worth it.

[QUOTE=Exile]I reported on them here several months ago and they have been talked about at least twice before in this thread. They are about the only place that really requires bargaining as they really seem to like to start high in their pricing and, considering the quality, I have never found them to be worth it.[/QUOTE]

I agree, passed by them a few times and (you know I dont mind having an "older" woman) but many of these were just not fuckable. Sorry for being so blunt but man spend the time near the temple or try SC.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I agree, passed by them a few times and (you know I dont mind having an "older" woman) but many of these were just not fuckable. Sorry for being so blunt but man spend the time near the temple or try SC.[/QUOTE]

Speaking of the temple, I was out there last week and found two things of note that guys should keep alert for:

1. Pimps will now approach you. I have seen them in the area hanging out and collecting cash from girls but they have never spoken to me. Last week, two did. One, was in the underground market area and the other was down by Guilin/Kending. I didn't go with either but one made it clear that he could get more than the usual offerings in the area. I don't like pimps and they always feel like scams.

2. A real stunner approached me down by Guangzhou. Nice, black dress; far better than you would expect to find in the area. I almost went with her but she was noncommittal on what she offered, an indication, based on past experience, that something was not what it seemed. She left and, being hungry, I sat down to have a drink and snack in one of the small restaurants on the street and saw her approach other potential mongers-always well-dressed locals or ABCs-and lead them off down the street. However, after she left, she was always back on Guangzhou five to ten minutes later, meaning that she was either passing them off to other girls when she got them in the shops or she was banging guys every three minutes for an entire hour.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I agree, passed by them a few times and (you know I don't mind having an "older" woman) but many of these were just not fuckable. Sorry for being so blunt but man spend the time near the temple or try SC.[/QUOTE]Most of them I saw in the barber shop I wouldn't touch them with 10ft pole, however I did see few that was ok. Anyhow, does anyone have details of how it works once you get inside? And thank you for being blunt it's always refreshing to get such a straighforward advise, and that's how I conduct my business. Haven't got around to temple or SC just yet, got to know bunch of graveyard shift nurses from Far Eastern Memorial Hospital and been trying to get some freebies. The nurses are aged between 25 to 30 and lives in a tiny 5ping dorm provided by hospital. On their day offs they just want to go out and have fun and get crazy. So wish me luck.

[QUOTE=Roni44]
Thank you for your report,
ABC Boy, have safe trip back to the US, and if anyone on the forum wants to meet up sometimes just to hang out, please do let me know as I still need friends in Taiwan. Cheers.

[/QUOTE]

Yes, great report, and they are typically my experience.

Small Ru? I had one that means "Small Rain" (Xiao Yu) and she's just like what you say, perfect service with great attitude.

By the way, I don't trust those hot tubs in those sex motels. I have read in the news that someone got herpes from it.

Abc Boy

[quote=roni44]most of them i saw in the barber shop i wouldn't touch them with 10ft pole, however i did see few that was ok. anyhow, does anyone have details of how it works once you get inside? and thank you for being blunt it's always refreshing to get such a straighforward advise, and that's how i conduct my business. haven't got around to temple or sc just yet, got to know bunch of graveyard shift nurses from far eastern memorial hospital and been trying to get some freebies. the nurses are aged between 25 to 30 and lives in a tiny 5ping dorm provided by hospital. on their day offs they just want to go out and have fun and get crazy. so wish me luck.[/quote]

you mean a 3.3 meter pole ;-)

just being a smartass, if you have a chance at nurses definately go for them. sc is hit and miss these days and with the elevated le presence there its always tricky. i would imagine the rules for these places are like any other barber shop. they are still rep001tered around the city and i know of three with varying degrees of yumminess.

pm me if you want more directions.

I'm a longtime lurker. This is my first post.

On a weekday afternoon I talked to a SW on Kanding near the Longshan temple. She said 1500. I walked into the building waiting for the elevator. As I was waiting, a plainclothes grabbed me, showed me his card, and asked me what she said. He said they had been watching me. At first I said nothing. Then another plain clothes grabbed the SW. The officer told me I have to just tell him what she said, e. G., how much. So, afraid, I told him. Then they dragged me and her to the police station to fill out a bunch of forms and threatened to draw my blood for VD/aids tests.

They said they wanted my report to arrest the woman, but I had to sign a form and they looked me up on the computer. I am a foreigner, but speak some Chinese. After 4 hours, they let me go. They said the blood technician was too far away. I know they were trying to scare me. It worked. The SW had to stay and apparently pay some fine.

I read your reports Ragnarok about getting busted. I'm wondering what the legal ramifications are. Do I now have a criminal record in Taiwan? Will it hurt me with legal issues? I don't know, and I have a family. I'm worried. I heard it's no big deal for the client. But I did sign some form that they used against the SW.

I want to add, the officer told me that they saw me from another building. I asked him, if LE are around, why are there so many SW's? He said because they don't have time to catch them all the time. He also added that Saturday nights had the most SW's.

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The annoying part is that I can't find any good updates and wasted my time in Shanghai, because apparently to "give a good image for World Expo" the Shanghai Government ordered all massage saunas to shut down (but curiously the KTV style still remain open, and yes they mean the same "KTV" in Taiwan as does China)

To add insult to injury, while internationalsexguide cannot be acces, but usasexguide can? That's super weird.

Hey guys,

Next time I'm in Taipei let's have a KTV party, so start saving now! LOL

Seriously, if you want to let's do it.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Hey guys,

Next time I'm in Taipei let's have a KTV party, so start saving now! LOL

Seriously, if you want to let's do it.[/QUOTE]Well, if I can close these deals I'm working on now, I'm in for sure (consider a x-mas gift or early birthday gift to myself). I know few other KTV's that if some other are on the budget, it's 1800/per hour min 2hrs with handjob, I think a BJ is another 500 more or 1000. All the beers you want and the girls are decent and between 22 to 30 but nowhere near the top performer like the Emperor.

Leonard Partsix: Sorry about your LE experience, it's my understanding that usually they don't punish the John's esp. You are a foreigner. It's just intimidation to scare you not to repeat it again. I myself is more ABC like, however I do held TW passport & ID, my family and gf's family are living in Taiwan, so if I ever get caught and they were to find out my side hobby, the damage might be beyond repairable. That's why I've avoid SC or the Temple. But honestly, I really don't think you have much to worry about.

Ragnarok42: Thanks for your offer on the direction, however I manage forget to grab my US credit card each time I gone back to the State, so I've not paid the membership yet. But once mine is activited with PM function, I'll for sure take advantage of your expertise. That goes for all that if you need a recommendation when you travel to pacific NW, please let me know, I'll share few my contacts there. Make sure you experience all the Emerald city has to offer.

I've mention in my older post, my local friend has this place that we call up and someone on other end of line will tell us where to go and get a FS for 3000 if 2 person or more it's 2800. They are very cautious and the screening process requires your mobile number. I don't know why I've not done it yet, but I'll make sure the full report gets here when I to it.

[QUOTE=Leonard Partsix]I'm a longtime lurker. This is my first post.

On a weekday afternoon I talked to a SW on Kanding near the Longshan temple. She said 1500. I walked into the building waiting for the elevator. As I was waiting, a plainclothes grabbed me, showed me his card, and asked me what she said. He said they had been watching me. At first I said nothing. Then another plain clothes grabbed the SW. The officer told me I have to just tell him what she said ...[/QUOTE]

That is so crummy. I know it is difficult to think lucidly in the moment, but I think all of us should just keep our mouths shut in this instance. Simply say the officer is mistaken, that you hadn't spoken to the girl. What are the police going to do? Hold you overnight? Try embarrass you publicly? You can continue claiming the police are corrupt and were trying to shake you down as a pedestrian passing through the area. You could simply say you asked her for directions and she offered to go get a map. (Hahaha!)

Seriously, this kind of shakedown pisses me off to no end.The cops are no better than the mob. They get their cut coming and going. I'll say again: find yourselves some freelance Filipinas and cut out the lowlife middlemen.

[QUOTE=Houziwang]That is so crummy. I know it is difficult to think lucidly in the moment, but I think all of us should just keep our mouths shut in this instance. Simply say the officer is mistaken, that you hadn't spoken to the girl. What are the police going to do? Hold you overnight? Try embarrass you publicly? You can continue claiming the police are corrupt and were trying to shake you down as a pedestrian passing through the area. You could simply say you asked her for directions and she offered to go get a map. (Hahaha!)
[/QUOTE]

I agree with this and also with Roni44 though it's easy to say so sitting here calmly away from the action. The worst that could happen would be for your family to find out though you probably don't need to worry about that happening. Legally, as I understand it, nothing can happen to you.

It's probably likely that they were watching her instead of you and who knows what her or her pimp did/didn't do to deserve it. I would imagine that this has nothing to do with you and, though I really appreciate the report because I was thinking of going over this afternoon, they likely aren't watching johns.

Their story about not being able to stop them because there are too many is bullshit because the action is congregated into a two-block area. A two-person foot patrol that actually does something could do enough to discourage a good percentage of the action, pushing it some other place where they aren't able to watch from another building.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]The annoying part is that I can't find any good updates and wasted my time in Shanghai, because apparently to "give a good image for World Expo" the Shanghai Government ordered all massage saunas to shut down (but curiously the KTV style still remain open, and yes they mean the same "KTV" in Taiwan as does China)

To add insult to injury, while internationalsexguide cannot be acces, but usasexguide can? That's super weird.[/QUOTE]

internationalsexguide includes China, usasexguide does not, unless you include California as part of the motherland under the one-country, two-systems rule.

I think in the Living in China section, they have workarounds for this problem, not that it does you any good now.

Seriously, this kind of shakedown pisses me off to no end.The cops are no better than the mob. They get their cut coming and going. I'll say again: find yourselves some freelance Filipinas and cut out the lowlife middlemen.[/QUOTE]To me, cops here are not worst nor better than the state, just different culture and procedure. However if I was ever busted, I would simply deny deny deny, and would not speak a word of Chinese to them but simply sayin I'm sorry I do not understand. From my experience, cops do not like to deal with someone who doesn't speak Chinese (that's how I got away few traffic tickets), unlike cops in the States, if you don't speak english, they automaticly assume you jump for the boarder and take you downtown regardless. I'll do my best to find all the safe establishment here in TP and share with everyone, but I'm sure most of them are being discovered unless there are places that known to locals only or needed an insider. I don't know if anyone of you read Chinese and over on ****** forum, supposely there is a local guy lives in Tao Yuan, he's main job is shuttle tourist between airport and places.

Anyhow, from what I've read, the guy takes you around and only charge the transportation fee, he knows his way around the right area for you to play and quite a few gents on the forum have reported nothing but high score for this person. He go by the name Der Lin and this is his yahoo website link [url]http://tw.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/f11269353?r=1039818804[/url]. I think once I get some time off in next few weeks, give him a call and arrange something from him.

Happy hunting gents.

When I didn't say anything at first, the cop told me they could take me to the station anyway. He said I was already in the building waiting for the elevator, so I was already guilty. If I told them, then they said it would be only a few hours, and I could go home. At that point, I just wanted to go home.

This is the first time I even talked a SW here.

The only thing I actually told them was that the SW said 1500. That's all.

I am worried about my family finding out here in TW, and the terrible damage, yes. But I am also worried it is now in my criminal record or some kind of database. So if I try to apply for permanent residency, they might deny me. I had to sign a few forms, and they even looked me up in the computer, knew when I arrived in Taiwan, from where, my address, and when my visa would expire. Even though I am a foreigner, they recorded my passport id # on the forms.

At first when they told me about the blood test, I thought they were shitting me. I hadn't even touched the SW. But I asked a uniformed cop while I was waiting, and he did say, believably, that the cops do bloods test sometimes on SW's and johns, but the info wasn't public. They would call you, if you had aids or something. I was shitting bricks.

The SW was calmly talked on here cell when I saw her in the precinct.

I'm hoping Ragnarok knows what happens, because I read that it happened to him before.

I know I won't go to jail, but I really hope it doesn't affect me in the future.

Thanks for the info though. I suppose I am a scared straight story now.

[QUOTE=Exile]I agree with this and also with Roni44 though it's easy to say so sitting here calmly away from the action. The worst that could happen would be for your family to find out though you probably don't need to worry about that happening. Legally, as I understand it, nothing can happen to you.

It's probably likely that they were watching her instead of you and who knows what her or her pimp did/didn't do to deserve it. I would imagine that this has nothing to do with you and, though I really appreciate the report because I was thinking of going over this afternoon, they likely aren't watching johns.

Their story about not being able to stop them because there are too many is bullshit because the action is congregated into a two-block area. A two-person foot patrol that actually does something could do enough to discourage a good percentage of the action, pushing it some other place where they aren't able to watch from another building.[/QUOTE]

I fully agree with Houziwang to get someone from Indonesia, Philis, Vietnam or Thailand and exclude third parties.

If you get a girl from the telephone service that advertise in the international newspapers and you limit the price to 3, 000 TWD, than most probably some foreign girl from one of the countries above will show up (if asked she will claim to be a native TW Haka.)

The brutal truth is that from the 3, 000 NT you pay the girl can keep 750 and the rest is for the "service center" and the driver.

So you pay 100 USD for one hour and she gets 25 USD.

Had also a 24 year old slim Indonesian girl who I always called and picked up with the company car. She was very happy with 2, 000 per hour and provided an extraordinary service. Unfortunately, she left Taiwan.

[quote=leonard partsix]i am worried about my family finding out here in tw, and the terrible damage, yes. but i am also worried it is now in my criminal record or some kind of database. so if i try to apply for permanent residency, they might deny me. i had to sign a few forms, and they even looked me up in the computer, knew when i arrived in taiwan, from where, my address, and when my visa would expire. even though i am a foreigner, they recorded my passport id # on the forms.

at first when they told me about the blood test, i thought they were shitting me. i hadn't even touched the sw. but i asked a uniformed cop while i was waiting, and he did say, believably, that the cops do bloods test sometimes on sw's and johns, but the info wasn't public. they would call you, if you had aids or something. i was shitting bricks.

the sw was calmly talked on here cell when i saw her in the precinct.

i'm hoping ragnarok knows what happens, because i read that it happened to him before.

i know i won't go to jail, but i really hope it doesn't affect me in the future.

thanks for the info though. i suppose i am a scared straight story now.[/quote]

sorry to hear you are having such a tough time but i was pretty shell shocked for a few weeks too after i was raided. they thought they had caught an **** sw, man was the guy pissed when he realised she turned 18 just 3 months prior.

they did not draw blood when the took me in and never treated me as a "criminal". i fully cooperated, gave a statement and signed it. my family has never been notifed and they have never followed up. from my freebie (who you remember is a lawyer) you have not legal liabilities. the drawing of blood should be illegal since you have not commmited a crime. i will talk to her to see what the legalities involved are.

my only thought is that they targeted you because you are not a local. are you abc or caucasian? the police all know about these activities and benefit from them usually. my freebie even told me that many of the outcall services are run by cops! talk about the fox watching the henhouse.....

stay safe my friend and keep a low profile. if you want safe mongering go to ceasars or someplace with deep pockets and good "guanxi" so you wont get into trouble again.

The possibility of police action is exactly why I, at the very very least, will go to Caesars. These establishments are "covered" by the police and usually they will tip them off if there are any actions taken, and the customers will be rush out through secret pathways. The shacks and especially solo-SWs are police targets because they don't get too many cutbacks from them.

Wondering if anyone has compensated a western girl for services in Taiwan? A long time ago when I was in the US studying Chinese, I had a female classmate whom I came to learn had spent some time in Taiwan 'hooking' pretty much full-time. I was dating the girls' friend, who told me the girl had confided in her. It sounded like she worked with a local organization - maybe a KTV racket or whatever. Anyway, with the English teachers making peanuts, and all the western guys banging the locals, I would think many of the fair-haired girls would be rather enterprising, but I haven't heard/encountered it.

Anyone?

[QUOTE=Houziwang]Wondering if anyone has compensated a western girl for services in Taiwan? A long time ago when I was in the US studying Chinese, I had a female classmate whom I came to learn had spent some time in Taiwan 'hooking' pretty much full-time. I was dating the girls' friend, who told me the girl had confided in her. It sounded like she worked with a local organization - maybe a KTV racket or whatever. Anyway, with the English teachers making peanuts, and all the western guys banging the locals, I would think many of the fair-haired girls would be rather enterprising, but I haven't heard/encountered it.

Anyone?[/QUOTE]I do believe there are small percentage of different race that are catering to the elites in Taiwan. From the little I know, most of them are brought in by "modeling", and yes most are models. And once they findout how much the top dogs willing to pay for a release, all of them will drop their panties before you can blink your eyes. I'm sure there are way or channel to get different race, but be prepare to pay with your house.

As far as female teacher goes, I believe most of them are not offering in TW. Although their wages in TW is on average what they make at home, but the living expenses are much lower in TW and compare to average TW, they are on the higher end of the pay scale. But I'm sure many freebies can be pretty easy to score as most of the male foreginer is banging the TW chicks left and right and treated as they were god-send. The foregin girls are left out but just to sightseeing and such during their time off.

[QUOTE=Houziwang]Wondering if anyone has compensated a western girl for services in Taiwan?[/QUOTE]

ShiDa is a good area to meet foreign girls and, perhaps a year ago, I met some German students who were out looking for guys but weren't selling anything.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Are you ABC or Caucasian?[/QUOTE]

Yes, I was wondering this last night.

[QUOTE=Roni44]supposely there is a local guy lives in Tao Yuan[/QUOTE]

A few months ago I reported that I took a cab home from the temple area, flagging down a guy who was obviously out scouting for himself. He pointed out a few areas that had services - most of them were obvious like dark-windowed shops or small KTVs but a few were back alleys that would have taken a real long time to find on my own. I haven't followed up on any of the leads but, if you have no idea where to look, a lot of cabs probably could help.

I'm a CBC, Canadian. I don't think I look like a local, especially at Longshan. Trying to act dumb didn't seem to work, when I tried it at first. And no way I could claim I lived around there.

Thanks for the reply Ragnarok42. "Shell-shocked" is a good description.

I'm worried about the? Police Criminal Record. My family is here, and if I apply for PR here, this little "solicitation" might hurt me, even if I didn't legally do anything wrong. No money changed hands, and no services were even mentioned. Only cost.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]My only thought is that they targeted you because you are not a local. Are you ABC or Caucasian? The police ALL know about these activities and benefit from them usually. My freebie even told me that many of the outcall services are run by cops! Talk about the fox watching the henhouse......[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Leonard Partsix]I'm a CBC, Canadian. I don't think I look like a local, especially at Longshan. Trying to act dumb didn't seem to work, when I tried it at first. And no way I could claim I lived around there.

Thanks for the reply Ragnarok42. "Shell-shocked" is a good description.

I'm worried about the? Police Criminal Record. My family is here, and if I apply for PR here, this little "solicitation" might hurt me, even if I didn't legally do anything wrong. No money changed hands, and no services were even mentioned. Only cost.[/QUOTE]

Next time do what I would have done (thought I have never been in your situation.)

1) Speak in only English and do not admit that you speak Chinese.

2) Demand to have an American representative (and in your case, I guess
Canadian representative) present since you're a foreign citizen

I suspect this will give them either too much paper work or too much hassle and they will just lecture you and send you away.

But again this is purely a guess on my part.

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Hey guys, I got this from my friend.

Not sure if it's just a massage or happy time.

I'll try one later and report.

Perhaps some have exprience it already?

[QUOTE=Roni44]I do believe there are small percentage of different race that are catering to the elites in Taiwan. From the little I know, most of them are brought in by "modeling", and yes most are models. And once they findout how much the top dogs willing to pay for a release, all of them will drop their panties before you can blink your eyes. I'm sure there are way or channel to get different race, but be prepare to pay with your house.[/QUOTE]I would definitely be interesting, but not at outrageously inflated prices. Anybody succeeded in getting freebies from western girls at Carnegie's or Ziga Zaga?

Hey guys, I'm a longtime lurker and mongerer and just wanted to say a few things.

My playground is LA and we have a really fine assortment of girls. A lot of hot korean, japanese, latinas, etc. Did a few short stops in Shanghai and Macau as well.

I'm getting a bit bored and looking for something more exotic. I enjoy learning about how a place works, especially the pbp scene. That stuff really gets me going.

I'm really curious to see how the high-end model, KTV girls compare with the best los angeles has to offer. I'm looking to visit taipei and learn as much as I can as quickly as possible.

Looking for a mentor and partner in crime, I'm an abc, fluent in mandarin, and got cash to spend. Looking to play hard and play smart.

[QUOTE=Leonard Partsix]I heard it's no big deal for the client. But I did sign some form that they used against the SW.[/QUOTE]

This sort of came up in conversation earlier this evening with people who would be in the know for such matters.

If you ever are applying for a PARC and they entered details into 'the system', you are fucked. It seems that they have a clause for violating Taiwanese morals (or something like that). If they simply looked you up and verified that you were who you said you were, no problems should ever result.

[quote]Looking for a mentor and partner in crime, I'm an abc, fluent in mandarin, and got cash to spend. Looking to play hard and play smart.[/QUOTE]Bal541: Sounds like Abc boy is the one you should try to get together when both yall in town. I myself love to join yall, but my money is all tied up with the business, wedding and remodeling of the new place, so for now, I'm on the budget for mongering. Yes, the Koreans and latinas are amazing, I had my share of fun back in the days when I travel to LA often. I think you'll find the top providers here are every bit as good looking if not hotter, and it's the service they provide that set themselve apart. Don't give me wrong, girls back in the State are good, most of time they treat you like a client or as a boyfriend, but with the top provider here, the girls treat you like a Emperor, when you with her, it's like her existence was just to please and fullfill every desire you have, and it's quite astonishing the power and control you have while with her.

There are few here that can offer lot more information and advice, be safe and have fun.

Yes, this is what I figured. I don't know if the cops recorded anything in the database or not, or just verified my info. I suppose I have to get a copy of my police criminal record and find out. They did fill out forms on the computer and printed them out.

I think they really wanted to bust the SW for some reason, and I was the unlucky witness.

Thanks for the info Exile.

Look out brothers!

[QUOTE=Exile]If you ever are applying for a PARC and they entered details into 'the system', you are fucked. It seems that they have a clause for violating Taiwanese morals (or something like that). If they simply looked you up and verified that you were who you said you were, no problems should ever result.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Roni44]Bal541: Sounds like Abc boy is the one you should try to get together when both yall in town. I myself love to join yall, but my money is all tied up with the business, wedding and remodeling of the new place, so for now, I'm on the budget for mongering. Yes, the Koreans and latinas are amazing, I had my share of fun back in the days when I travel to LA often. I think you'll find the top providers here are every bit as good looking if not hotter, and it's the service they provide that set themselve apart. Don't give me wrong, girls back in the State are good, most of time they treat you like a client or as a boyfriend, but with the top provider here, the girls treat you like a Emperor, when you with her, it's like her existence was just to please and fullfill every desire you have, and it's quite astonishing the power and control you have while with her.

There are few here that can offer lot more information and advice, be safe and have fun.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, another single-digit poster wants to meet up with me and party....

Sorry, no dice.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Yeah, another single-digit poster wants to meet up with me and party....

Sorry, no dice.[/QUOTE]Sorry Abc Boy, I shouldn't have volunteer your name. My apology.

Took a morning trip to SC and realized the place I went to last time was not open. Either raided or not open in the morning. Found the park relatively quiet but was waved in by an old lady standing next to the car wash on the corner.

Bingo, found 2 rather busty girls waiting for me and choose the paler of the 2. Upstairs is relatively nice and the room was clean (by SC standards). Girl was really enthusiastic and we had a rather long foreplay with me licking her C cups and playing with her muff while she gave me a handjob. She popped on a condom and gave me a hard BJ. She got into doggy and we started to go at it. Finished hard in mish and her squeezing the life out of me.

Nice attitude and fun time (especially since she didnt use a timer). She left me her cell number and told me to call her. The place is not open at night, they close at 7 PM but open at 5 AM. So I guess places swap places opening to throw off the LE.

[QUOTE=Leonard Partsix]I think they really wanted to bust the SW for some reason, and I was the unlucky witness.
[/QUOTE]

Out of curiosity, where was she standing? You mentioned Kanding - was she down on the corner by Guilin. Also, what was she wearing? All the girls have costumes that they seem to wear daily.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Yeah, another single-digit poster wants to meet up with me and party....

Sorry, no dice.[/QUOTE]

Come on, how are we supposed to confirm our suspicions of such folks if somebody doesn't meet up with them?

Well gents, I'm heading to China for the Canton fair this weekend also looking to open an office somewhere in china.I'll be spending few days in HK, Shenzhen, Dongguang, Guangzhou, and possibly few other places. Only draw back is I'm going with my father, but I'm sure I will find time to sneak out for few quickies.

Wish me luck.

You don't need luck in the places you are visiting but, just the same, have a good trip.

Dear guys,

In light of the recent conversations about high end KTV parties, I just wanted to let you all know that I plan to be in Taipei (work permitting) in either December or January. I'd like to get together with some of the more experienced, more connected members if possible. You see, while I've done the KTV thing on my own in Taipei, I don't think I'm being shown the "VIP" girls. Plus, it gets expensive more quickly on my own. If anyone is interested in meeting for VIP-style fun, please feel free to send me a private message or so. And I'll try to make it worth your while!

Also, it seems that it takes some number of posts to obtain credibility on this board. So, I apologize that I've lurked more often than making posts. Unfortunately, I do not have much to add to the forum since I've only been to Caesars (which has been well documented) and the 8th floor of the building in which Caesars is located. The latter is a high end KTV, which I love, but again, I don't think I'm being shown the VIP girls.

About me: 30 years old, Chinese American, easygoing, respectful, lawyer from California, and ready to have a good time!

[QUOTE=Roni44]Well gents, I'm heading to China for the Canton fair this weekend also looking to open an office somewhere in china.I'll be spending few days in HK, Shenzhen, Dongguang, Guangzhou, and possibly few other places. Only draw back is I'm going with my father, but I'm sure I will find time to sneak out for few quickies.

Wish me luck.[/QUOTE]

man what an itineary.

make sure your dick doenst fall off from too much fucking.

have a good time buddy

[QUOTE=Tjlib70]Dear guys,

In light of the recent conversations about high end KTV parties, I just wanted to let you all know that I plan to be in Taipei (work permitting) in either December or January. I'd like to get together with some of the more experienced, more connected members if possible. You see, while I've done the KTV thing on my own in Taipei, I don't think I'm being shown the "VIP" girls. Plus, it gets expensive more quickly on my own. If anyone is interested in meeting for VIP-style fun, please feel free to send me a private message or so. And I'll try to make it worth your while!

Also, it seems that it takes some number of posts to obtain credibility on this board. So, I apologize that I've lurked more often than making posts. Unfortunately, I do not have much to add to the forum since I've only been to Caesars (which has been well documented) and the 8th floor of the building in which Caesars is located. The latter is a high end KTV, which I love, but again, I don't think I'm being shown the VIP girls.

About me: 30 years old, Chinese American, easygoing, respectful, lawyer from California, and ready to have a good time![/QUOTE]

8th floor huh. Let me see if you're legit. How much did you pay?

By the way, I used to frequent that place.

Haha, I see I'm being tested. Well, I guess I would not be willing to spend a whole night with a total stranger if he didn't check out either, so I don't mind jumping through a few hoops. So here goes.

The last time I went to the 8th floor of the building in which Caesar's is located was last January of 2009. I was by myself, and paid about 600 USD for the room, karaoke and snacks. The manager I was with introduced me to a couple girls, one of which I took out at the end of the night. Both were about 7 or 8's. I can't remember what the exact take out fee was, as I paid in cash, but I think it was somewhere between 100-150K NT. I really liked the manager I met, whose English name is Amy, and would encourage anyone to ask for her. She even remembered me from my the trip before last, back in May of 2008 which impressed me a lot. I don't remember her last name though, and I've lost her business card. Sorry. All in all, it's a place that looks very high end and clean. And, it's just a huge operation. If you plan to rent a hotel room for your stay in Taipei, the Sunworld Dynasty Hotel is right next door. Quite convenient!

I also remembered that I've been to 383 on Linshen Road a few times as well. It's about 300 USD for 2 hours of takeout. It has less pretense than the other place, as the girls line up and you simply choose and leave. However, if you theoretically wanted to stay and sing with the girl, I think it'd be possible. It's less nice of a place, since I often see cockroaches on the furniture there. In any case, the last time I was there, I spent the night with an 18 year old girl fresh out of high school. It's a good option if you want to do something more cost effective with your night. And whenever you ask cabbies about uniform shops, they seem to recommend 383 consistently.

Anyone up for getting together?

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]8th floor huh. Let me see if you're legit. How much did you pay?

By the way, I used to frequent that place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]man what an itineary.

make sure your dick doenst fall off from too much fucking.

have a good time buddy[/QUOTE]Haha, I hope my dick stay intact after the trip. Been reading all night in the China forum and took some notes, gonna hit up this place tonite in HK, and got few place lineup while in China. Few of vendors have already to offer me nights out of fun after my father tune in for the night. So I'm sure the KTV action is on.

Tjlib70: As you know most of us here been to Caesars and are you sure it's on 8th floor? last time I visited Caesar were few more floors up, and the price is $$$$+few reds. (For my own credibility).Haha

Hi Roni44,

Sorry for the confusion. I meant the 8th Floor of the *Building* that Caesars is in -- not that Caesars is on the 8th Floor. I forget what floor Caesars is on, but I think it's higher than the 8th.

[QUOTE=Roni44]Haha, I hope my dick stay intact after the trip. Been reading all night in the China forum and took some notes, gonna hit up this place tonite in HK, and got few place lineup while in China. Few of vendors have already to offer me nights out of fun after my father tune in for the night. So I'm sure the KTV action is on.

Tjlib70: As you know most of us here been to Caesars and are you sure it's on 8th floor? last time I visited Caesar were few more floors up, and the price is $$$$+few reds. (For my own credibility).Haha[/QUOTE]

At the corner of Guilin. Mid-30's, stacked, yellow t-shirt.

I'm too chicken now to go back. I just hope the LE didn't put me in the system. And as I see it, I actually didn't do anything wrong. And from what I understood, clients have no legal issues anyway. They just used me to incriminate her. I will eventually apply for the PARC (my family is here), but if I'm fucked, I suppose I can get a lawyer. At least my story is a warning to the rest of you.

I'm surprised more people haven't been busted on this forum. I guess SW's are the riskiest, but I suppose this is part of the thrill.

[QUOTE=Exile]Out of curiosity, where was she standing? You mentioned Kanding - was she down on the corner by Guilin. Also, what was she wearing? All the girls have costumes that they seem to wear daily.[/QUOTE]

I don't think we need to be accusatory or presumptuous about lurkers who send PMs looking for a wingman. Who's handing out medals for a high post count? How much really is their new to post?

And there are lots of non-Chinese speakers from Silicon Valley and such who must pop into Taipei regularly. It should be expected that these guys would lurk, and only monger w/ Yuki or at Caesars. Seriously, how many more Yuki/Caesars posts do we need? Finally, if I was one of these guys I'd like an intro to a KTV at some point.

Perhaps when the LE environment changes here, we can all be more comfortable meeting up from time to time.

[QUOTE=Houziwang]I don't think we need to be accusatory or presumptuous about lurkers who send PMs looking for a wingman. Who's handing out medals for a high post count? How much really is their new to post?

And there are lots of non-Chinese speakers from Silicon Valley and such who must pop into Taipei regularly. It should be expected that these guys would lurk, and only monger w/ Yuki or at Caesars. Seriously, how many more Yuki/Caesars posts do we need? Finally, if I was one of these guys I'd like an intro to a KTV at some point.

Perhaps when the LE environment changes here, we can all be more comfortable meeting up from time to time.[/QUOTE]

True and true. I will talk with my provider to see what is the best way for them to avoid suspicion and convince them that they are not LE.

[QUOTE=Tjlib70]Hi Roni44,

Sorry for the confusion. I meant the 8th Floor of the *Building* that Caesars is in -- not that Caesars is on the 8th Floor. I forget what floor Caesars is on, but I think it's higher than the 8th.[/QUOTE]

Caesars is the 15th floor, can't miss it when you enter the elevator, it has advertisement.

8th floor is a super-high-end KTV and unless you have $30K NTW (or $1K USD) you might as well go all the way up to Caesars. 8th floor caters to politicians, mafia bosses, and rich bastards. I used to frequent that place often until I realize I can get the same thing and same quality for only $17-19K elsewhere.

But if you are rich, the 8th floor girls are the best in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Tjlib70]Haha, I see I'm being tested. Well, I guess I would not be willing to spend a whole night with a total stranger if he didn't check out either, so I don't mind jumping through a few hoops. So here goes.

The last time I went to the 8th floor of the building in which Caesar's is located was last January of 2009. I was by myself, and paid about 600 USD for the room, karaoke and snacks. The manager I was with introduced me to a couple girls, one of which I took out at the end of the night. Both were about 7 or 8's. I can't remember what the exact take out fee was, as I paid in cash, but I think it was somewhere between 100-150K NT. I really liked the manager I met, whose English name is Amy, and would encourage anyone to ask for her. She even remembered me from my the trip before last, back in May of 2008 which impressed me a lot. I don't remember her last name though, and I've lost her business card. Sorry. All in all, it's a place that looks very high end and clean. And, it's just a huge operation. If you plan to rent a hotel room for your stay in Taipei, the Sunworld Dynasty Hotel is right next door. Quite convenient!

Anyone up for getting together?[/QUOTE]

Heh heh, ok, let's get together next time I'm in Taiwan.

You paid $100-150K for one girl? Is that a typo as that comes out to $4K-$5K USD. Anyway, that place should be no more than $30-35K NTD.

Yes, thanks that was a typo. I meant between $10-15K for the takeout fee. Glad I passed your test! I hope to be back in Taiwan for a week sometime in December-February. By the way, how would you compare Emperor's club versus the "8th floor" place we keep talking about?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Heh heh, ok, let's get together next time I'm in Taiwan.

You paid $100-150K for one girl? Is that a typo as that comes out to $4K-$5K USD. Anyway, that place should be no more than $30-35K NTD.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Houziwang]I don't think we need to be accusatory or presumptuous about lurkers who send PMs looking for a wingman. Who's handing out medals for a high post count? How much really is their new to post?

And there are lots of non-Chinese speakers from Silicon Valley and such who must pop into Taipei regularly. It should be expected that these guys would lurk, and only monger w/ Yuki or at Caesars. Seriously, how many more Yuki/Caesars posts do we need? Finally, if I was one of these guys I'd like an intro to a KTV at some point.

Perhaps when the LE environment changes here, we can all be more comfortable meeting up from time to time.[/QUOTE]To appease some of the skepticisms, one can always check out when the dude joined the foreign. That's another parameter to judge whether they are legit. Some of us indeed are LONGTIME lurkers (myself included).

[QUOTE=Paradise Bay]To appease some of the skepticisms, one can always check out when the dude joined the foreign. That's another parameter to judge whether they are legit. Some of us indeed are LONGTIME lurkers (myself included).[/QUOTE]

I myself was a lurker for over one year before my first post. I excercise the usual precautions when introducing anyone from this forum to girls or providers I know but I tend to like to fly solo when I hunt. On some occasions I have met brothers from this forum but usually only for dinner or a drink. When I hunt I hunt alone.

Came to Taipei for the first time, as a stopover for Japan.

I speak perfect mandarin, and look like a Taiwanese, bear in mind as you read the following:

Quick Notes:

1. Snake Alley Tea Shops - This area is just disgusting. I went into two tea shops, and it's dirty and the girls are fugly. You get a room, anywhere between 1 1/2 - 2 hours with a girl, for 800. You can easily bargain it down to 600-700. You can "touch" the girls and the girls will "touch" you back. I didn't go through the process as it's not my cup of "tea", no pun intended. One thing I noticed though is the teashops with solicitors may not be the best. As the end of the several small alleys, there are much better decorated tea shops which I suspect offer much better girls (saw a hot one come out actually). I guess you just have to man up and walk in without knowing what's going on.

2. Kanding Road Guilin Road - I went to the dark alleys here on Saturday night. There are a LOT of cops here. They patrol the alley in pairs. I saw a SW turn right into two cops. It was funny to watch her expression. Contrary to what's been posted, I saw a couple cute ones (my standards are pretty high), but it's too hard to approach with the LE in the area. I can imagine getting LT for pretty cheap here.

3. Bin Na shops - the shops on the side of the road selling the "red fruit" with very hot young girls. I was informed by the taxi driver that you can bang them for 2,500NT or so. Since the red fruit is sold everywhere, you differentiate by looking at who is selling them. If the girl looks young and sexy, you can walk in and negotiate. Unfortunately I did not get to test this out as I found out on the way to the airport.

Overall pretty boring two nights in Taipei. Didn't get to test the KTVs mentioned as friends and I just wanted to chill after spending tons of money in Japan.

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[QUOTE=Temujin87]I speak perfect mandarin, and look like a Taiwanese, bear in mind as you read the following:
[/QUOTE]

dude great way to describe yourself. so you wear blue plastic sandels and chew bettlenut squatting on the street? Man and I just threw out my sandels last week.

Sorry to see you didnt have a good time. You should have tried SC. High end play is all fine but finding the rare gems in slimeholes like SC is always good fun. Found a few recently and paying only 1500NT (cheap for Taiwan) for it always brings a smile to my face.

After reading about the legit massage joint, Shining Star, on Linsen N. Road, I thought I'd check it out.

They assigned me No. 123. About a minute later, a second girl came in. She told me no extra charge for the first 30min. I said no several times, but she kept asking. Then she mentioned that with two, you can do take-out (someone confirm this. I suspect that needing two for a take-out is a lie.). Take-out for two for three hours comes to something like 8800, but they helped me buy a 10, 000 coupon booklet which effectively lowers the price to 7800. The three of us took a taxi to the hotel across the street. I didn't take notice of the name, but it was nice for around 700.

No. 123 is about a 7 overall. Ok face and body. Her friend had a 6 face, and was less experienced, but her skin was perfect. I've been mongering for a while, but this is the first time I tried a 3P, and I have to say, it will not be the last time. It's really true that looks aren't as important as the chemistry between the two. If they are comfortable with each other, you'll have a great time. Especially memorable is being sucked by No. 123 while I was groping her friend. Also, having two attractive women, each snuggling on one shoulder is nice.

Some Notes:

1. Officially, they are not allowed to do extras outside. I suspect that some of them will do take-out while others won't.

2. I wasn't prepared, but you should be. It is best to do all the negotiations, tipping and services, before you leave Shining Star. You have 30 minutes to do so before they tack on extra charges beyond take-out. What is on-the-menu totally depends on the girl and her rapport with you. I ended up tipping another 4000 in the hotel for several pops, but if you are better prepared you can do better. YMMV.

3. I think it would be a pretty good deal if you can get one of those 8-10's to do take-out, but I'm not sure how you do this. Maybe you can keep rejecting girls until a good one shows up? Is this allowed at this shop?

I hope others on this forum will explore Shining Star a bit more and report back. If not, I will try to pull of 3. The next time I'm in Taipei.

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[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]dude great way to describe yourself. So you wear blue plastic sandels and chew bettlenut squatting on the street? Man and I just threw out my sandels last week.

Sorry to see you didn't have a good time. You should have tried SC. High end play is all fine but finding the rare gems in slimeholes like SC is always good fun. Found a few recently and paying only 1500NT (cheap for Taiwan) for it always brings a smile to my face.[/QUOTE]LOL is the bin na stuff they sell called bettlenut?

1500NT eh? The beauties in BBS all over China cost 300RMB for the whole night, and that is slightly under 1500NT.compared to Hong Kong, Taiwan is cheap, but still can't beat mainland if you're going the value route.

[QUOTE=Temujin87]LOL is the bin na stuff they sell called bettlenut?

1500NT eh? The beauties in BBS all over China cost 300RMB for the whole night, and that is slightly under 1500NT.compared to Hong Kong, Taiwan is cheap, but still can't beat mainland if you're going the value route.[/QUOTE]

Yes they are the same. Nasty tasting stuff, took one bite once and swore off the stuff.

China is definately cheap and I used to love spending all night getting cheap hits for 150 RMB a pop. But these 1500NT places I mention really require you to do some leg work (as many SC veterns can attest to) to find something nice especially now with the LE doing regular raids and trying to clean up the area.

So how about helping a few non enlightended folks line me about where exactly are.

Linsen Road, Kanding Road, Guilin Road? What district? What landmark that I can find on a map?

I looked and looked on wikimapia and Google earth but. It escapes me! I RTFFed!

If you guys need some help on Tijuana, I can help.

Garcias senores

[QUOTE=Temujin87]3. Bin Na shops - the shops on the side of the road selling the "red fruit" with very hot young girls. I was informed by the taxi driver that you can bang them for 2,500NT or so. Since the red fruit is sold everywhere, you differentiate by looking at who is selling them. If the girl looks young and sexy, you can walk in and negotiate. Unfortunately I did not get to test this out as I found out on the way to the airport.[/QUOTE]This I've never heard of... most of the beetle nut girls that I know only sell the stuff and don't do extras on the job. But a few work in KTV's on the side and they do whatever there with the customers.

[QUOTE=Korean][url]http://asiahsu.wordpress.com/[/url]

Hey guys, I got this from my friend.

Not sure if it's just a massage or happy time.

I'll try one later and report.

Perhaps some have exprience it already?[/QUOTE]Hi Korean,

Any luck with this in/out call massage service?

[QUOTE=Adventur]So how about helping a few non enlightended folks line me about where exactly are.

Linsen Road, Kanding Road, Guilin Road? What district? What landmark that I can find on a map?

I looked and looked on wikimapia and Google earth but. It escapes me! I RTFFed!

If you guys need some help on Tijuana, I can help.

Garcias senores[/QUOTE]Hey Adventur,

[url]www.maps.google.com[/url] will help you. Write down: Taiwan Taipei Linsen

[QUOTE=Adventur]So how about helping a few non enlightended folks line me about where exactly are.

Linsen Road, Kanding Road, Guilin Road? What district? What landmark that I can find on a map?

I looked and looked on wikimapia and Google earth but. It escapes me! I RTFFed!

If you guys need some help on Tijuana, I can help.

Garcias senores[/QUOTE]Taking the subway to Longshan Temple is a good place to start. From there you can just taxi to Guilin Rd. for really cheap, and take the time to explore the dark alleys there. Use google maps to map out the area if you wish.

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Taking the subway to Longshan Temple is a good place to start. From there you can just taxi to Guilin Rd. for really cheap, and take the time to explore the dark alleys there. Use google maps to map out the area if you wish.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to take a taxi, you can spend an entire two minutes walking.

[QUOTE=Temujin87]3. Bin Na shops - the shops on the side of the road selling the "red fruit" with very hot young girls. I was informed by the taxi driver that you can bang them for 2,500NT or so. Since the red fruit is sold everywhere, you differentiate by looking at who is selling them. If the girl looks young and sexy, you can walk in and negotiate. Unfortunately I did not get to test this out as I found out on the way to the airport.
[/QUOTE]I want to see an actual report of somebody succeeding here. I have heard numerous times that it is easy and that they cost 1,500-3,000 but have never actually heard of somebody doing it though I understand it used to be quite common.

[QUOTE=Exile]I want to see an actual report of somebody succeeding here. I have heard numerous times that it is easy and that they cost 1,500-3,000 but have never actually heard of somebody doing it though I understand it used to be quite common.[/QUOTE]

I have never heard of it either. Their whole schitck is the cock tease. None of my friends or contacts have heard of any scoring with these girls as a WG.

Probably just some urban myth. But Exile you are welcome to try and report back to us...

I'm a long-time reader and finally had the opportunity to try things out myself. I first have to say thank you all for the great intel on activities in Taiwan. Although I would have wanted to try KTVs, there were seriously too many in the city and I wasn't sure how to differentiate between the singing ones and ones we talk about in this forum. Tokyo and Caesars (well documented in this forum) was much easier to work with and I enjoyed it very much throughout the month and a half while I was in Taipei on business.

[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]After reading about the legit massage joint, Shining Star, on Linsen N. Road, I thought I'd check it out.

3. I think it would be a pretty good deal if you can get one of those 8-10's to do take-out, but I'm not sure how you do this. Maybe you can keep rejecting girls until a good one shows up? Is this allowed at this shop?

I hope others on this forum will explore Shining Star a bit more and report back. If not, I will try to pull of 3. The next time I'm in Taipei.

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I suspect the two of them are great friends and they want to make extra buck, so they ask you to take them out, do you, and earn more by giving you extra pops.

You know these "legit" massage places are suffering heavily in business. The rich ones go to high scale KTVs, the middle class men that want a fix goes straight to establishments like Caesars. They don't have time to play games at legit places anymore and build relationship and conquer a young lady. I was told frequently by these legit massage girls that sometimes they can sit there a whole day with no customers.

[QUOTE=Tjlib70]Yes, thanks that was a typo. I meant between $10-15K for the takeout fee. Glad I passed your test! I hope to be back in Taiwan for a week sometime in December-February. By the way, how would you compare Emperor's club versus the "8th floor" place we keep talking about?

Thanks[/QUOTE]8th floor place = Long Heng, and it is super high scale politicians/gangster bosses/rich people place. All of their girls are carefully selected and well trained to make men very comfortable. However, because Long Heng is a big target they will not openly help you negotiate "take out" fees (as other KTVs will). Also, you have to buy the girl for the "whole day" if you like her and that comes to $30K easy, so I am curious of your recent experience. Of course I haven't been to Long Heng in 2 years so I guess they change their business practices.

If you want to try a brand new KTV there's a new game in town (well actually the boss bought out the old one, re-decorate it, renamed, it) on Chong-Shao East Road (next to LUXY) and it's called 97 Taipei. The interior is excellent but the girls are so-so in my opinion, so after a couple of trips I don't even bother anymore.

Emperor's club is a high scale amongst the high-scale KTVs, and the girls are better, but also more expensive (get ready to spend a minimum of 19K, more if you stick around to sing and drink alcohol)

Do not freaking use ******, I tried 5 girls in the last 3 days and none of them look remotely like the picture. And never try those $1400+ "local girls" as they are really average looking.

****** pictures are really heavily photoshopped.

Thank you for sharing your experience.

It's good to know that "legit massages" are hurting. Next time I am in Taipei, I will try rejecting the 7's in order to hook up with the 9-10's.

I am kind of torn on the High-End KTV's. I've tried them in HK, but never in Taipei. For 19K+, I keep thinking 4 times at Caesar's, 4 times real massage with happy-endings w/9's-10's in Tokyo, or a whole stack of BBBJ's w/18-21yo's at a pink salon. I love the high-end, but I'm not much for them staying overnight (I sleep much better alone). Like to think that I am paying them to leave.

I will probably try high-end KTV once in Taipei, just to see what's it's like, but I suspect it will probably be similar to what I've seen in HK: lots of fun, but pricey.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]As I have said before, there's definitely take-out option in "legit" massage places. However, the massage place will NOT openly help you negotiate to save their own skins, therefore it's up to your game with the girls, and if the girls like you or not (i.e. willing to do you for a few thousands of bucks, or think that you're a pig and want you gone as soon as the massage session ends)

I suspect the two of them are great friends and they want to make extra buck, so they ask you to take them out, do you, and earn more by giving you extra pops.

You know these "legit" massage places are suffering heavily in business. The rich ones go to high scale KTVs, the middle class men that want a fix goes straight to establishments like Caesars. They don't have time to play games at legit places anymore and build relationship and conquer a young lady. I was told frequently by these legit massage girls that sometimes they can sit there a whole day with no customers.[/QUOTE]

You know how much of the action has been sucked out of Taipei into China? The effect is even more pronounced in HK. Like you have mentioned in Taipei, if you are into quality in HK, the only thing worth doing seems to be high-end KTV, but even then, you will get more bang for your buck on the mainland.

That's why when I visit HK, I just forego the mongering and hop over the border into the mainland (do what the local HKers do). Shenzhen and Donguan are recommended by many, but I prefer the Tangxia Goodview Sauna (I made some posts in the 2007 Donguan thread) on the way to Donguan.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Do not freaking use ******, I tried 5 girls in the last 3 days and none of them look remotely like the picture. And never try those $1400+ "local girls" as they are really average looking.

****** pictures are really heavily photoshopped.[/QUOTE]

Can somebody elaborate on these pink salons w/18-21yo BBJ's?

[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]...or a whole stack of BBBJ's w/18-21yo's at a pink salon. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wang Doodle]Can somebody elaborate on these pink salons w/18-21yo BBJ's?[/QUOTE]

hes talking about Japan not Taipei. Head over to the Japan thread. Was at one in Tokyo, you pay about 70 US and get a booth. The girl will give you a BBBJ and you can finger her or kiss her (if she lets you). Mine stripped naked, french kissed me and came on my fingers while I blew my load into her mouth.

Not a bad experience but I still prefer actual fucking to a straightforward BJ. They should introduce those to Taipei but I guess the equivalent is MoMo Tea.

I don't know. I really miss those pink salons in Japan. Yes, humping is nice, but so is sitting on a padded bench, and having a hot, young Japanese girl BBBJ and cim. All for $70US. I'm torn with having those in Taipei because I don't make enough money here to support my inevitable habit. I went two different places frequently during my short stay and have not seen any girls that were not cute. If anybody can tell me where I can get momo tea with a 90% guarantee that any girl they send will be young and cute and will offer BBBJ+cim, I'll pay more than my NT1500 SC habit.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]p.s. the girl was neither young nor "hot", if you are looking for those in Ceasers, then you are barking up the wrong tree. what she lacked in age she made up for in technique, enthusiasm and one tight pussy ;-)[/QUOTE]Where do you recommend one should go for young and hot girls that provide massage + HJ? (I'm not looking for full service.)

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Dailo13]I don't know. I really miss those pink salons in Japan. Yes, humping is nice, but so is sitting on a padded bench, and having a hot, young Japanese girl BBBJ and cim. All for $70US. I'm torn with having those in Taipei because I don't make enough money here to support my inevitable habit. I went two different places frequently during my short stay and have not seen any girls that were not cute. If anybody can tell me where I can get momo tea with a 90% guarantee that any girl they send will be young and cute and will offer BBBJ+cim, I'll pay more than my NT1500 SC habit.[/QUOTE]I know how you feel. Some mongers prefer variety in girls. I prefer variety in service. Sometimes, I'm in the mood for BBBJ, sometimes, a nice massage with a HJ will suffice. Other times, I want FS GFE. I may have to move from Tokyo to Taipei and if I do, I will definitely miss the pink salons here. There are a few where management definitely maintains the quality of girls and quality of service. I suspect that post-legalization in Taipei, prices, types of services, and locales may change.

How safe is SC these days? I've been avoiding the area for fear of heat; the potential value there, when you find a hottie, is hard to resist, but I'd hate to get busted over saving a few thousand.

Hey guys,

Just got back from my 1 week China trip with mostly in Dongguang, Guangzhou, Hua du, and Shenzhen. Not that I want to post the China trip in Taiwan section, but I've met a perfect spinner in Hua du (it's about 1.5hr away from Shenzhen) that I really want to share with yall. Her name is Xiao Ying, forgot where she is from, met her while partying with few local Taiwanese factory owners in KTV. She was so stand out during the line up and I picked her as soon as she came in. She is 20 and a bit darker in skin which what I perfer. Most of asian likes white skin but to me darker tone of the skin just more seductive. Anyhow, after few hrs of dice game and heavy drinking. I ask her to come back to my hotel. The damage 800rmb, for 2 pops and she is aim to please. Good moaner and very enagaged during the play, somewhat ok in BJ department, but makes up with cow girl riding. If I was able to, she would be easily my mistress in China for while. My first gen. iPhone sucks in camera department, but I did a quick snap while waiting for elevator to my room. Most of plays happens in Shenzhen and it's cheap and easy, my very last night's girl was good and promise me her day-job co-worker which in her words stunning for a night of fun my next visit. Gents, instead of paying for highend KTV in Taipei, maybe we should all arrange a quick weekend get away to Shenzhen for some crazy partying.

[QUOTE=Roni44]Hey guys,

Just got back from my 1 week China trip with mostly in Dongguang, Guangzhou, Hua du, and Shenzhen. Not that I want to post the China trip in Taiwan section, but I've met a perfect spinner in Hua du (it's about 1.5hr away from Shenzhen) that I really want to share with yall. Her name is Xiao Ying, forgot where she is from, met her while partying with few local Taiwanese factory owners in KTV. She was so stand out during the line up and I picked her as soon as she came in. She is 20 and a bit darker in skin which what I perfer. Most of asian likes white skin but to me darker tone of the skin just more seductive. Anyhow, after few hrs of dice game and heavy drinking. I ask her to come back to my hotel. The damage 800rmb, for 2 pops and she is aim to please. Good moaner and very enagaged during the play, somewhat ok in BJ department, but makes up with cow girl riding. If I was able to, she would be easily my mistress in China for while. My first gen. iPhone sucks in camera department, but I did a quick snap while waiting for elevator to my room. Most of plays happens in Shenzhen and it's cheap and easy, my very last night's girl was good and promise me her day-job co-worker which in her words stunning for a night of fun my next visit. Gents, instead of paying for highend KTV in Taipei, maybe we should all arrange a quick weekend get away to Shenzhen for some crazy partying.[/QUOTE]

You really should post this in the China section. Not much good to us to here unless we go there. We all know about southern China and those of us fortunate enough to have the means and freedom to go there to play are very lucky mongers. But do keep those reports in the appropriate section.

I was in Taipei Grand Hyatt on Thursday (Ladies Night) last week and decided to check out Ziga Zaga. The place is a bit dim and music is provided by the live band on stage. Having parked myself at the bar I decided to check out the scene. The place was mostly filled with foreigners on business trips and the occasional wealthy locals with their entourage. There were a few female tourists at the tables and some working girls dancing away on the floor.

Half an hour later, with no action whatsoever and planning to leave to ROOM 18, a taiwanese-looking girl parked herself next to me by the side bar near the toilets.

I decided to chat her up as she was quite pretty (face 8), slim and petite (she also looked like she was in hed mid-20s). Ten minutes later, as we were in deep conversation about the nightlife at Taipei, she asked me to help her remove her jacket. Was I in for a surprise!

She was wearing a chiffon dress that was slightly sheer with no bra (body 9) and breast size about C cup. I was flabbergasted at first, and decided to talk some more and so we had a couple of more drinks. It turned out that she was a guest of the hotel and was there on work trip. Said she was from Japan and her name was Sally with a japanese last name, but her english was fluent!

A bottle of champagne later, she excused herself to the washroom, got up from her seat and walked to the WC. As she moved away, I could see her entire petite body and the cleft of her ass and no panties! When she came back, I suggested to move to the tables with couches to continue our talk comfortably. Whilst there, we started kissing, touching a little and slipped my hands up her legs.

Was I in for another surprise! She took my hand to her pussy and so I started fingering her and realized it was completely hairless as well. She was completely wet before my fingers had done any work. The next few minutes or so, we frenched and she kept on opening her legs wider and wider. It was at this point when I looked down and I could see that the bottom half of her dress were almost on her hips! I decided to call for the bill, grabbed her hand and asked her if she would like to come to my room for more drinks. She replied "I would love to" and so we walked to the lift lobby.

As we approached the bright lights of the hotel, she was still holding her jacked on her left arm, I could clearly see that Sally was wearing a nearly transparent dress with nothing on underneath and the outline of her nude body. When I mentioned about the nature of the dress to her, she said that it was nothing unusual as this was common in Tokyo.

Anyways, when I got to my room, she immediately got down to give me a BBBJ as I was sitting on side of the bed.

She was good at licking all over and was there for a good 20 mins before I blew my load into her mouth. We already had a long foreplay at Ziga Zaga and I couldnt hold it in any longer. Sally then continued draining me for another 1 or 2 minutes and swallowed everything I gave her. She then proceeded to ask me to lie down and placed a pillow under the small of my back. It was at this point she spread my legs and continued sucking my balls before heading further south for rimming and sticking her tongue into my ass. This continued for about 5 mins or so until I had another hard on.

She removed her dress, and climbed on top of me and she was doing the cow-girl (technique 8). We then did doggy and proceeded to missionary then back to cow girl again.

Before long, I told her that I might come again and I didnt have any condoms on me. I couldnt believe what happened next! She went down on me again and started sucking my cock for the next 10 mins and using her hands to cup my balls at the same time. We finished with a reverse half and half and she continued to clean me with her tongue and some of the cum that had spilled onto my stomach. Next thing I knew, we were cuddling and I was asleep after that.

The next morning at about 10am, I woke up to find my dongle in her mouth again before I blew another one into her. We then took a shower together, where she lathered me all over and bathed me with her breasts, mouth and fingers. When I came out of the toilet after my shave, she had already layed out all of my clothes neatly on the bed with a cup of coffee!

As I had the flight in the afternoon, we exchanged our contacts and got her phone number in Hong Kong where she was based. Apparently she works for an investment company and was staying on in Taipei for another week or so. We said our goodbyes and there was no mention about any 'money' for services rendered. This was the best GF effect and freebie I ever had at the G Hyatt Taipei!

I am definitely staying in touch with her, and if you see her again at Ziga Zaga this week try to keep your hands off her!

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[QUOTE=Roni44]Hey guys,

Just got back from my 1 week China trip with mostly in Dongguang, Guangzhou, Hua du, and Shenzhen. Not that I want to post the China trip in Taiwan section, but I've met a perfect spinner in Hua du (it's about 1.5hr away from Shenzhen) that I really want to share with yall. Her name is Xiao Ying, forgot where she is from, met her while partying with few local Taiwanese factory owners in KTV. She was so stand out during the line up and I picked her as soon as she came in. She is 20 and a bit darker in skin which what I perfer. Most of asian likes white skin but to me darker tone of the skin just more seductive. Anyhow, after few hrs of dice game and heavy drinking. I ask her to come back to my hotel. The damage 800rmb, for 2 pops and she is aim to please. Good moaner and very enagaged during the play, somewhat ok in BJ department, but makes up with cow girl riding. If I was able to, she would be easily my mistress in China for while. My first gen. iPhone sucks in camera department, but I did a quick snap while waiting for elevator to my room. Most of plays happens in Shenzhen and it's cheap and easy, my very last night's girl was good and promise me her day-job co-worker which in her words stunning for a night of fun my next visit. Gents, instead of paying for highend KTV in Taipei, maybe we should all arrange a quick weekend get away to Shenzhen for some crazy partying.[/QUOTE]Just curious man, did you go to "high-end" KTVs? Most of Southern China is on the 2-5-8 structure. How come you paid 800 for only 2 pops?

Your girl looks quite nice, but Hua Du is a bit difficult to get to without a car =(.

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Just curious man, did you go to "high-end" KTVs? Most of Southern China is on the 2-5-8 structure. How come you paid 800 for only 2 pops?

Your girl looks quite nice, but Hua Du is a bit difficult to get to without a car =(.[/QUOTE]Well, I got around b/c of local Taiwanese factory owner took me to the KTV, I wasn't aware of the price there, but the factory owner told me it was market rate. The KTV is call He Xing Hotel Club, not sure if it's ok to post the client manger name or phone number, anyhow, this is Taiwan section, and I do not want to hijack the section.

[QUOTE=Dr Doom]I was in Taipei Grand Hyatt on Thursday (Ladies Night) last week and decided to check out Ziga Zaga. The place is a bit dim and music is provided by the live band on stage. Having parked myself at the bar I decided to check out the scene. The place was mostly filled with foreigners on business trips and the occasional wealthy locals with their entourage. There were a few female tourists at the tables and some working girls dancing away on the floor.

Half an hour later, with no action whatsoever and planning to leave to ROOM 18, a taiwanese-looking girl parked herself next to me by the side bar near the toilets.

I decided to chat her up as she was quite pretty (face 8), slim and petite (she also looked like she was in hed mid-20s). Ten minutes later, as we were in deep conversation about the nightlife at Taipei, she asked me to help her remove her jacket. Was I in for a surprise!

She was wearing a chiffon dress that was slightly sheer with no bra (body 9) and breast size about C cup. I was flabbergasted at first, and decided to talk some more and so we had a couple of more drinks. It turned out that she was a guest of the hotel and was there on work trip. Said she was from Japan and her name was Sally with a japanese last name, but her english was fluent!

A bottle of champagne later, she excused herself to the washroom, got up from her seat and walked to the WC. As she moved away, I could see her entire petite body and the cleft of her ass and no panties! When she came back, I suggested to move to the tables with couches to continue our talk comfortably. Whilst there, we started kissing, touching a little and slipped my hands up her legs.

Was I in for another surprise! She took my hand to her pussy and so I started fingering her and realized it was completely hairless as well. She was completely wet before my fingers had done any work. The next few minutes or so, we frenched and she kept on opening her legs wider and wider. It was at this point when I looked down and I could see that the bottom half of her dress were almost on her hips! I decided to call for the bill, grabbed her hand and asked her if she would like to come to my room for more drinks. She replied "I would love to" and so we walked to the lift lobby.

As we approached the bright lights of the hotel, she was still holding her jacked on her left arm, I could clearly see that Sally was wearing a nearly transparent dress with nothing on underneath and the outline of her nude body. When I mentioned about the nature of the dress to her, she said that it was nothing unusual as this was common in Tokyo.

Anyways, when I got to my room, she immediately got down to give me a BBBJ as I was sitting on side of the bed.

She was good at licking all over and was there for a good 20 mins before I blew my load into her mouth. We already had a long foreplay at Ziga Zaga and I couldnt hold it in any longer. Sally then continued draining me for another 1 or 2 minutes and swallowed everything I gave her. She then proceeded to ask me to lie down and placed a pillow under the small of my back. It was at this point she spread my legs and continued sucking my balls before heading further south for rimming and sticking her tongue into my ass. This continued for about 5 mins or so until I had another hard on.

She removed her dress, and climbed on top of me and she was doing the cow-girl (technique 8). We then did doggy and proceeded to missionary then back to cow girl again.

Before long, I told her that I might come again and I didnt have any condoms on me. I couldnt believe what happened next! She went down on me again and started sucking my cock for the next 10 mins and using her hands to cup my balls at the same time. We finished with a reverse half and half and she continued to clean me with her tongue and some of the cum that had spilled onto my stomach. Next thing I knew, we were cuddling and I was asleep after that.

The next morning at about 10am, I woke up to find my dongle in her mouth again before I blew another one into her. We then took a shower together, where she lathered me all over and bathed me with her breasts, mouth and fingers. When I came out of the toilet after my shave, she had already layed out all of my clothes neatly on the bed with a cup of coffee!

As I had the flight in the afternoon, we exchanged our contacts and got her phone number in Hong Kong where she was based. Apparently she works for an investment company and was staying on in Taipei for another week or so. We said our goodbyes and there was no mention about any 'money' for services rendered. This was the best GF effect and freebie I ever had at the G Hyatt Taipei!

I am definitely staying in touch with her, and if you see her again at Ziga Zaga this week try to keep your hands off her!

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Am I reading a porno bed time story? this sound like one of them.

Cheers,


MD

[QUOTE=Macho Dik]Am I reading a porno bed time story? this sound like one of them.

Cheers,


MD[/QUOTE]

You mean this doesnt happen to you every other day? Mine was just this weekend ;-P

Well at least it was entertaining to read. My new freebie this weekend will take quite a bit of training until she becomes as good as my current freebie.

Do any SC runs recently? Been there twice and there are still a few 1500NT gems out there.

[QUOTE=Macho Dik]Am I reading a porno bed time story? this sound like one of them.

Cheers,


MD[/QUOTE]

Wearing no panties while on the prowl in Ziga Zaga? I'd call a baloney on that. However, if she returned from the bathroom without her panties, that'd be something the J-girls are certainly capable of.

Also, quite unlikely anyone from HK is put up at the Grand Hyatt for a week! Investment companies these days are under scrutiny; each of these mofos have offices in Taipei, they have phones/faxes too would you believe? Seminars are usually 2 days at the most.
Also, the mofos are most likely to be middle-aged men, not pretty J-girls who speak English fluently and want to bbj a stranger.

This has to be the laziest part of ISG.

Long time Taipei residents and so-called experienced mongers talking about SC and Ceasar's and the Temple and various KTVs when there are HOT, 18-20 year old, educated Japanese financial traders wearing no panties hanging out in Ziga Zaga. To think that a newbie comes into town and finds what everybody else has been missing -- EVERYBODY HERE SHOULD BE ASHAMED!

It was a good story though.

[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]Wearing no panties while on the prowl in Ziga Zaga? I'd call a baloney on that. However, if she returned from the bathroom without her panties, that'd be something the J-girls are certainly capable of.

Also, quite unlikely anyone from HK is put up at the Grand Hyatt for a week! Investment companies these days are under scrutiny; each of these mofos have offices in Taipei, they have phones/faxes too would you believe? Seminars are usually 2 days at the most.

Also, the mofos are most likely to be middle-aged men, not pretty J-girls who speak English fluently and want to bbj a stranger.[/QUOTE]From my experience, most of Hk firm do not hire Japanese in general unless the person is very good at the specific requirment. And in most cases, JP company will hire outside JP to get qualify worker for lot less pay. A friend of my is in headhunter biz, and he's specialize in finding talents in HK, TW and few other places to big JP corporation. Not that saying it didn't happen to DD, but sometimes if it's too good to be true. I did get a boner when reading the story.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]You mean this doesnt happen to you every other day? Mine was just this weekend ;-P

Well at least it was entertaining to read. My new freebie this weekend will take quite a bit of training until she becomes as good as my current freebie.

Do any SC runs recently? Been there twice and there are still a few 1500NT gems out there.[/QUOTE]


I don't want to comment any further , but the spirit of this forum should be based on actual thing happening and not for some writters whom write based on some halucinations just because to entertained or to make himself like somebody else, as this will only misguided some brothers and spoiled this good site created by Jackson

Cheers,

MD

Hey yo wut up guys.

I guess I'm new here but I've been to shining star on Linsen N. Road a few times: shining star No 1. Once and shining star No 2. Twice so I'll share wut I got (not much actually).

Was told by a local friend that this place is one of the most popular massage parlors around town because gurls here are young and sexy and usually provide their customers with a "happy ending."

So yeah. I never got any. I think I'm too embarrased to ask for the specials.

But yeah, one of the girls there ended up calling me night after our session and we went to Luxy for a couple hours. Drank and danced a bit. But I wasn't really into her so told her I had a curfew at 3AM: P

Fuck I think I'm gana have to check out No. 123 tomo. Will update here asap!

Be cool if anyone else can let me know any other decent massage parlors in taipei. You know. Ones with good looking gurls + happy endings.

Cheers,

Konpaochicken

[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]After reading about the legit massage joint, Shining Star, on Linsen N. Road, I thought I'd check it out.

They assigned me No. 123. About a minute later, a second girl came in. She told me no extra charge for the first 30min. I said no several times, but she kept asking. Then she mentioned that with two, you can do take-out (someone confirm this. I suspect that needing two for a take-out is a lie.). Take-out for two for three hours comes to something like 8800, but they helped me buy a 10, 000 coupon booklet which effectively lowers the price to 7800. The three of us took a taxi to the hotel across the street. I didn't take notice of the name, but it was nice for around 700.

No. 123 is about a 7 overall. Ok face and body. Her friend had a 6 face, and was less experienced, but her skin was perfect. I've been mongering for a while, but this is the first time I tried a 3P, and I have to say, it will not be the last time. It's really true that looks aren't as important as the chemistry between the two. If they are comfortable with each other, you'll have a great time. Especially memorable is being sucked by No. 123 while I was groping her friend. Also, having two attractive women, each snuggling on one shoulder is nice.

Some Notes:

1. Officially, they are not allowed to do extras outside. I suspect that some of them will do take-out while others won't.

2. I wasn't prepared, but you should be. It is best to do all the negotiations, tipping and services, before you leave Shining Star. You have 30 minutes to do so before they tack on extra charges beyond take-out. What is on-the-menu totally depends on the girl and her rapport with you. I ended up tipping another 4000 in the hotel for several pops, but if you are better prepared you can do better. YMMV.

3. I think it would be a pretty good deal if you can get one of those 8-10's to do take-out, but I'm not sure how you do this. Maybe you can keep rejecting girls until a good one shows up? Is this allowed at this shop?

I hope others on this forum will explore Shining Star a bit more and report back. If not, I will try to pull of 3. The next time I'm in Taipei.

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Alright was gana go to bed and check out No. 123 in the next day but had problems falling asleep so I thought what the heck why I don't go check out shining star again right now? Called shining star and asked about No. 123 were told that she only works during the day. Oh well.

So I went to the number 2. Shining star (around the intersection of Linsen N road and Chang Cuen road) and straight up to the manager I said."alright can you find me a lady that has special services." Oh by the way I'm pretty articulate in mandarin though I do have a tiny bit of accent.

So the manager was quite adamant that their gurls don't provide any "special" services, regardless of the fact that I told her a couple of my frds enjoyed and recommended their "special" services. Anyway, minutes after a girl came in and I had a 2 hour massage with no happy ending. Tried to talk the girl into a giving me some special treats but my attempts were in vain.

Nevertheless! She did tell me that No. 168 who works during the day is quite popular and customers always take her out. So yeah.

No. 123 (I assume it's at No.1 shining star)

No. 168 (at No.2 shining star)

So yeah. Wasted another 2.4k on a mediocre massage.

I've also been to Shining star several times. The place looks nice and the girls are definitely hot. But all I got was a so so massage with no happy ending. Is there some special code word that I need to use.

[QUOTE=Konpaochicken]Hey yo wut up guys.

I guess I'm new here but I've been to shining star on Linsen N. Road a few times: shining star No 1. Once and shining star No 2. Twice so I'll share wut I got (not much actually).

Was told by a local friend that this place is one of the most popular massage parlors around town because gurls here are young and sexy and usually provide their customers with a "happy ending."

So yeah. I never got any. I think I'm too embarrased to ask for the specials.

But yeah, one of the girls there ended up calling me night after our session and we went to Luxy for a couple hours. Drank and danced a bit. But I wasn't really into her so told her I had a curfew at 3AM: P

Fuck I think I'm gana have to check out No. 123 tomo. Will update here asap!

Be cool if anyone else can let me know any other decent massage parlors in taipei. You know. Ones with good looking gurls + happy endings.

Cheers,

Konpaochicken[/QUOTE]

Nope no code word I think. You either know the girls who want to make some extras or you don't.

But yeah if you refer to my post and the other guy's shining star post. I think both No. 123 and No. 168 are worth trying.

Didn't have a chance to go again today. Was caught up with some work. Oh well.

[QUOTE=Wowbaby]I've also been to Shining star several times. The place looks nice and the girls are definitely hot. But all I got was a so so massage with no happy ending. Is there some special code word that I need to use.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, Shining Star is a crap shoot. If you don't get serviced, Caesar's is actually a better deal (and perhaps better massage).

No. 123 is at #1: Linsen N. Rd, No. 83 1F

Don't ask for special services - instead ask the managers to send in the girls who are open to take-out - you had the right idea in probing for No. 168.

1. You must negotiate take-out: I don't think any of them will risk losing their jobs by doing anything in-house, including a HJ. With No. 123, she insisted that I must take out 2 of them - let me know if you manage to just take out 1.

2. You have to take out for a 4h block - actual time is like 2.5-3h.

3. You should negotiate all services and rates before you leave the building

At Shining Star, someone please attempt to reject some uglies to see if they would replace with someone better.

Let me know if you succeed. Thx.

[QUOTE=Konpaochicken]Alright was gana go to bed and check out No. 123 in the next day but had problems falling asleep so I thought what the heck why I don't go check out shining star again right now? Called shining star and asked about No. 123 were told that she only works during the day. Oh well.

So I went to the number 2. Shining star (around the intersection of Linsen N road and Chang Cuen road) and straight up to the manager I said."alright can you find me a lady that has special services." Oh by the way I'm pretty articulate in mandarin though I do have a tiny bit of accent.

So the manager was quite adamant that their gurls don't provide any "special" services, regardless of the fact that I told her a couple of my frds enjoyed and recommended their "special" services. Anyway, minutes after a girl came in and I had a 2 hour massage with no happy ending. Tried to talk the girl into a giving me some special treats but my attempts were in vain.

Nevertheless! She did tell me that No. 168 who works during the day is quite popular and customers always take her out. So yeah.

No. 123 (I assume it's at No.1 shining star)

No. 168 (at No.2 shining star)

So yeah. Wasted another 2.4k on a mediocre massage.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wowbaby]I've also been to Shining star several times. The place looks nice and the girls are definitely hot. But all I got was a so so massage with no happy ending. Is there some special code word that I need to use.[/QUOTE]

No code, you need to first chat them up, make them feel comfortable with you, and then ask for it. They are free to say yes or no depending on how much they like you, how much they needed money, etc.

Too much trouble to spend 2K numerous times just to get a drill, might as well go straight to Caesars and spend that 4K, or save up and go to KTV and get treated like an Emperor.

What is the name of Shining Star No. 1 and 2 in Chinese? It would be good to know so that I can tell the cabbie where I'm going! Otherwise, I'm not sure I can find it just based on an intersection.

[QUOTE=Konpaochicken]Alright was gana go to bed and check out No. 123 in the next day but had problems falling asleep so I thought what the heck why I don't go check out shining star again right now? Called shining star and asked about No. 123 were told that she only works during the day. Oh well.

So I went to the number 2. Shining star (around the intersection of Linsen N road and Chang Cuen road) and straight up to the manager I said."alright can you find me a lady that has special services." Oh by the way I'm pretty articulate in mandarin though I do have a tiny bit of accent.

So the manager was quite adamant that their gurls don't provide any "special" services, regardless of the fact that I told her a couple of my frds enjoyed and recommended their "special" services. Anyway, minutes after a girl came in and I had a 2 hour massage with no happy ending. Tried to talk the girl into a giving me some special treats but my attempts were in vain.

Nevertheless! She did tell me that No. 168 who works during the day is quite popular and customers always take her out. So yeah.

No. 123 (I assume it's at No.1 shining star)

No. 168 (at No.2 shining star)

So yeah. Wasted another 2.4k on a mediocre massage.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tjlib70]What is the name of Shining Star No. 1 and 2 in Chinese? It would be good to know so that I can tell the cabbie where I'm going! Otherwise, I'm not sure I can find it just based on an intersection.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.shining-star.com.tw/[/url]

I went there a few times last time I'm in Taipei, mostly young girls but definitely not as good as the website advertised. And after targeting this hottie and visited her 3 times the best she offered me was HJ... pathetic...

Shining Star No 1. Xin guan san san yi guan

Shining Star No 2. Xin guan san san er guan

lol by the way where is caesars??

[QUOTE=Abc Boy][url]http://www.shining-star.com.tw/[/url]

I went there a few times last time I'm in Taipei, mostly young girls but definitely not as good as the website advertised. And after targeting this hottie and visited her 3 times the best she offered me was HJ... pathetic...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Konpaochicken]Shining Star No 1. Xin guan san san yi guan

Shining Star No 2. Xin guan san san er guan

lol by the way where is caesars??[/QUOTE]

Dude do a search, there are about a billion posts here about that place...
But I am in a good mood because I have this new freebie who loves sex and is blowing my mind (literally) so here:

15th floor of Asiaworld Department store on corner of Nanjing and Tun Hwa. Take the elevator from Nanjing entrance to 15th floor and walk in.

Enjoy.

Boy is this forum dying? I remember when I was a newbie that this forum gets 20 posts per day. What happened? Do I have to visit Taipei more often to get this going?

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Boy is this forum dying? I remember when I was a newbie that this forum gets 20 posts per day. What happened? Do I have to visit Taipei more often to get this going?[/QUOTE]Well, personally I'm saving some mula for another upcoming trip to Shenzhen end of the month. Working on few freebies there, hopefully one of them can become my mistress.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Boy is this forum dying? I remember when I was a newbie that this forum gets 20 posts per day. What happened? Do I have to visit Taipei more often to get this going?[/QUOTE]

I imagine that Taipei doesnt hold much in the way of choices and even those are pretty pricey. That and the fact that I think most of the brothers play in China now and are less willing to spend mucho dinero here (and who can blame them). Much more action down south seems like, but people like me who have a family and cannot take extended trips mongering have to find other means of slaking our thirsts.

But do come back soon ABC, you seem at least interested in our little corner of hell and try to make contributions whenever you can.

Are they really going to open up a red-light-district in Taipei?

Just read online Taiwan news that the Taiwan Supreme Court declared Taiwan's law against only prostitutes but not johns as illegal, and the law itself will automatically loses authority in two years, and that is the amount of time the Legislative Branch has to amend that law to punish johns, and reduce the punishment on prostitutes.

I got an idea, how about just LEGALIZE it?

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Just read online Taiwan news that the Taiwan Supreme Court declared Taiwan's law against only prostitutes but not johns as illegal, and the law itself will automatically loses authority in two years, and that is the amount of time the Legislative Branch has to amend that law to punish johns, and reduce the punishment on prostitutes.
I got an idea, how about just LEGALIZE it?[/QUOTE]

These same sanctimonious, two faced, self righteous hypocrites who make, enforce or interpret the laws are the same bastards who are seeing hookers!
Sunday go to church and condom the profession and come Sunday night, out seeing them! Go figure!

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Just read online Taiwan news that the Taiwan Supreme Court declared Taiwan's law against only prostitutes but not johns as illegal, and the law itself will automatically loses authority in two years, and that is the amount of time the Legislative Branch has to amend that law to punish johns, and reduce the punishment on prostitutes.

I got an idea, how about just LEGALIZE it?[/QUOTE]

that is one thing I read they are considering. They are thinking of setting up red light districts but I wouldnt hold my breath. The politcal climate could change in 2 years and the gov't will be hesitant to seem soft on the sex industry (there will be a flood of cheap girls from China wanting to come over, illegal immigrant hell...)

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]that is one thing I read they are considering. They are thinking of setting up red light districts but I wouldnt hold my breath. The politcal climate could change in 2 years and the gov't will be hesitant to seem soft on the sex industry (there will be a flood of cheap girls from China wanting to come over, illegal immigrant hell...)[/QUOTE]


RLD is kinda pushing the envelop for having vice operating cheaply and openly in such a developed and high tech and profile place.

It's not that necessary. Something like HK or Macau where it's tolerated, open at most international venues such as Saunas and major hotels, and given a place for locals, tourists, and businessmen to "play" yet not in the face of private citizens is all that's needed. Right now, it's knowingly available in KTVs where most of the revenue goes to crime and "protection" of the law. If it's tolerated, KTV costs would not be as high as crime lords still get the money, but perhaps the "protection money" is much lower, enabling KTVs to survive.

Was hanging out with my local buddy last weekend and after complaining to him how shining star sucked, he decided to take me to a KTV on Lin Sen North Road that goes by the name "Mei Li Dian, " a direct translation would be something like "a beautiful palace."

So it was already 1 AM when the three of us decided to go. My friend called his friend who's in the business and was told that it's a busy night and do expect a 2-3 hour wait. So we waited until 3ish.

After we got there we waited for like another 20 mins. Several girls came in. And we picked our girls. Overall I would say the girls were decent. Avg face 7.5/10 and avg body 8/10. The girl I picked was a loquacious one but nonetheless she was sort of fun to talk to!

So yeah we drank and played games. Then they danced and got naked. Moments after we all got the HJ.

Damage was 10k for the 3 of us including everything I mentioned above. Thought it was quite cheap. I mean I already blew over 16k at shining star ALONE and got NOTHING.

So yeah. I was a happy man that night!

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[QUOTE=BruceTea]RLD is kinda pushing the envelop for having vice operating cheaply and openly in such a developed and high tech and profile place.

It's not that necessary. Something like HK or Macau where it's tolerated, open at most international venues such as Saunas and major hotels, and given a place for locals, tourists, and businessmen to "play" yet not in the face of private citizens is all that's needed. Right now, it's knowingly available in KTVs where most of the revenue goes to crime and "protection" of the law. If it's tolerated, KTV costs would not be as high as crime lords still get the money, but perhaps the "protection money" is much lower, enabling KTVs to survive.[/QUOTE]

Very good point. It's just funny to see Taiwan tolerates bribery, gangsters, crooks as part of everyday life, but when it comes to sex industry they have a holier than thou attitude. Give me a break.

I think the New Taipei City (when formed) should take the lead and build a red light district in San Chong, LOL

Gents, here is a new report for yall, few friends and I were in Nanjing East Rd for dinner, anyhow after we got out, one of the guy suggest we check out Kai Der Li (sorry no english name and I have no idea if this place is legit or not but didn't want to ask my friends b/c I have no idea if they are into mongering) but the establishment is few mins. away from Nanjing and Linsen on Nanjing. Anyhow, got in and quickly brought to upstair and selected massage. We got split up and went into our own room, the room a bit small however it was nice furnished. First 4 girls came in, maybe 5/10 at most in look and body ok nothing worth mentioning. The manager was pretty cool and patient, finally he sent in a decent one and I didn't feel like to wait any longer. So I ok'd, and she went out to get her tools. After few mins of wait she finally came back in with a white t-shirt and a short shorts. Anyhow I changed to towel only and she started massage with warm oil. B/C I'm not sure if the place do any additional service, so I started to conversing with her and try to get her to initate other services if she does. I told her I just moved back from the state and looking for some good time so she can be at ease knowing most likely I'm no LE. After chatting for while, found out she is from Tainan and just got to Taipei about 2 months ago. Against her parent she moved out here for her bf and her bf dumped her as soon as she arrived. Being too shame to go back, she decided to stay in Taipei and try to make something out of it. By this time, she is working on my crouch and of coz she can see my little john got some reaction. So I finally ask her if any additional service can be provided and she quickly said no. I told her I would pay her extra 1000 for a bj if she is ok with it. To my suprise she politely rejected my offer and say they do get a lot of customers offer extra dollar for services and she does not know if other girls accept and she personally do not. So after massage and a quick shower I was waiting for my friends in the lobby and was really disppointed as I settled the bill of 1200NT. Spoke to my friends and ask if anyone of them try to get extra service and one did say he's girl wanted 1500NT for a HJ. So I guess this establishment is kinda hit and miss depends on the girl however, most likely I will not repeat as the girls are not that attractive and if anyone of them do provide additional services will cost me an arm or a leg.

Anyhow, I have another Shenzhen trip coming up in early Dec. I guess I'll just wait til then, sorry gents, another one bites the dust.

Reasonably priced for a KTV, girls are young and and very pleasant on the eye.
You get to select your girl from those available at the time, I got to see 5 before I selected.

I visited on a Friday night so the place was very busy, had to wait around 30mins for a room.

You get a clean confy room, drinks and the usual KTV fruit & entertainment.
The girl does an exotic dance for you then strips off to only her panties & stays this way for the 2hrs.

Total price was 5k. This covered the room, drinks for 2 hours, tips and whatever my referrer (I don't speak Chinese) pocketed.

I guess it's a little cheaper for those that go without a guide.

Not the cheapest HJ in town, but for a KTV I thought it was pretty good value.

PM for more details

[QUOTE=Roni44]Gents, here is a new report for yall, few friends and I were in Nanjing East Rd for dinner, anyhow after we got out, one of the guy suggest we check out Kai Der Li

Anyhow, I have another Shenzhen trip coming up in early Dec. I guess I'll just wait til then, sorry gents, another one bites the dust.[/QUOTE]

All Taiwanese massage places (not sauna) you need to press your charm/luck to get extra service. Sometimes you need to do multiple visits to the same girl. Anyway, too long for my taste.

Long time lurker here who's currently in Taipei. Was thinking about checking out Shining Star, but if someone is up for KTV on Wed night (Nov 18), send me a PM. Unfortunately, won't be here through the weekend. :( Oh, and I'm an ABC and my Chinese is not that useful.

[QUOTE=Jephhy]Long time lurker here who's currently in Taipei. Was thinking about checking out Shining Star, but if someone is up for KTV on Wed night (Nov 18), send me a PM. Unfortunately, won't be here through the weekend. :( Oh, and I'm an ABC and my Chinese is not that useful.[/QUOTE]Suggest you skip Shinning Star unless you want to waste your time and money. Ceasars is always a sure thing.

Looking for wingman or tips, will be in taipei Friday morning for a few days. On the cheap. Currently traveling with SO so will have to sneak out.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Funkystuff]Looking for wingman or tips, will be in taipei Friday morning for a few days. On the cheap. Currently traveling with SO so will have to sneak out.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Hard to find cheap in Taipei unless you try SC but if you are not a local you should stay away. Especially if you are Caucasian or dont read or speak Chinese. Still with Ceasars and other saunas in town already well covered in this forum is my advice.

Trying to go hunting on your own in a foreign country and with the pressure of having to get back before the SO finds out makes this exponentially more difficult.

Good luck.

I'm going to be in town again in December and I'm going to rumble and report on!

Go Taipei go!

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]I'm going to be in town again in December and I'm going to rumble and report on!

Go Taipei go![/QUOTE]

Happy to hear you will be back in town buddy.
Maybe we can get some quality reports back into this forum. I am MIA these days due to an overactive freebie (or 2).

Look forward to reading your reports.

Cheers

I ventured out tonight for a new place as Jing Tian Di has changed its system. There is no more 'showtime' and handjob for 5k. The girls won't even undress, very sad. Based on the previous report in this forum I walked down Jinzhou street past venice to Emporor and was refused entry. So I walked down the street to 383 LinSen BeiLu. Went up to the 11th floor and was told they have takeout. They want 11k! I know from another mamasan that there is a lao wai (foreigner) surcharge. Ridiculous price given the quality. So I called the manager back from JingTianDi and she introduced me to a new manager at a place called two characters, the first is Jun and the second is something like "Luo". Same 5000NT, 2 hour system. I learned liar's dice, but the learning process got me drunk as the girl was obviously a veteran. And in this place I had to buy a bottle of Johnny Walker for 1k. Other places will give you as included, but here the only free drink was budweiser, blech. I was very close just to going to leaving, but stuck with it.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]I'm going to be in town again in December and I'm going to rumble and report on!

Go Taipei go![/QUOTE]Abc Boy, it's funny how your departure and arrival to Taiwan is almost identical to a friend of mine, I'm begining to think maybe u r that friend never speak about your dark side. Have great time in TP, myself will be busy in Shenzhen for a weekend, then good possiblity of heading back to the State for Xmas. It's been a while since I got myself some white meat, can't wait.

Add a report for ka din Road

I went there today around 1.

I notice alot yonger girls now.

On ka din Road and gutin Road. Make sure you check bothside of the street on gutin Road near the hotel on 11th floor.

Service is standard, 1. 5k is cheap.

The girl told me in sanschong police will go inside the hotel for a bust, and in ka ding Road. Police don't do that. So alot sanchong girls coming to ka ding Road.

Hey Gents, recently I have establish a new company and new office across from Ceasar. I often grab a quick bite in the basement food court between 8~9pm. I personally have not return to Ceasar for while, however lately I've seen quite of few good looking girls in and out of the building, I'm not sure if they are just shopper or actually working girls, but by the looks of them, I think they are working. Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Roni44]Hey Gents, recently I have establish a new company and new office across from Ceasar. I often grab a quick bite in the basement food court between 8~9pm. I personally have not return to Ceasar for while, however lately I've seen quite of few good looking girls in and out of the building, I'm not sure if they are just shopper or actually working girls, but by the looks of them, I think they are working. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

That section has a lot of working girls but in Taipei it's pretty hard to tell by the way somebody is dressed.

[QUOTE=Korean]Add a report for ka din Road

I went there today around 1.

I notice alot yonger girls now.

On ka din Road and gutin Road. Make sure you check bothside of the street on gutin Road near the hotel on 11th floor.

Service is standard, 1. 5k is cheap.

The girl told me in sanschong police will go inside the hotel for a bust, and in ka ding Road. Police don't do that. So alot sanchong girls coming to ka ding Road.[/QUOTE]

Are you referring to Kang Ding (康定) road?

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[QUOTE=Roni44]Hey Gents, recently I have establish a new company and new office across from Ceasar. I often grab a quick bite in the basement food court between 8~9pm. I personally have not return to Ceasar for while, however lately I've seen quite of few good looking girls in and out of the building, I'm not sure if they are just shopper or actually working girls, but by the looks of them, I think they are working. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I am around there a lot around that time too. Some of them are pretty obvious. Short skirts, high heels and lots of makeup? bingo.

They sometimes grab something from the Starbucks or the 7-11 in the back alley before taking the employee entrance to go to Long Heng. Used to hang around that area at about that time just to see how the richer half of TP plays ;-)

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I am around there a lot around that time too. Some of them are pretty obvious. Short skirts, high heels and lots of makeup? bingo.

They sometimes grab something from the Starbucks or the 7-11 in the back alley before taking the employee entrance to go to Long Heng. Used to hang around that area at about that time just to see how the richer half of TP plays ;-)[/QUOTE]

That's what I thought too, quite a few dress to kill and I'm really temp just go up to them and offer something, however I don't want to shit where I eat, my gf is just right across the street working in the office. But is it just me, there are awfully a lot of really skinny chicks work in Ceasar

[QUOTE=Roni44]Hey Gents, recently I have establish a new company and new office across from Ceasar. I often grab a quick bite in the basement food court between 8 9pm. I personally have not return to Ceasar for while, however lately I've seen quite of few good looking girls in and out of the building, I'm not sure if they are just shopper or actually working girls, but by the looks of them, I think they are working. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]My guess is that they may be working girls. But not from Ceasar. Instead the KTV that's on one of the floors below. I have been there once, but sorry I don't have anymore details as I was taken there by one of my sub-contractors.

I thinks it's one of the more pricey KTV's in town.

I'm sure it's been mentioned recently a few times already in this forum.

[QUOTE=Roni44]That's what I thought too, quite a few dress to kill and I'm really temp just go up to them and offer something, however I don't want to shit where I eat, my gf is just right across the street working in the office. But is it just me, there are awfully a lot of really skinny chicks work in Ceasar[/QUOTE]If they indeed work in Long Heng then make sure your offer is at least 30K.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]If they indeed work in Long Heng then make sure your offer is at least 30K... :)[/QUOTE]Or just pull up to them in a Ferrari, sure you can get them to get in. If you dont have one then try offering cash (lots of it like ABC Boy said). You might also check out the Tonglin Bldg, there are 2 KTVs in there and I know there are 2 or more near there (close to where Watsons is).

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Or just pull up to them in a Ferrari, sure you can get them to get in. If you dont have one then try offering cash (lots of it like ABC Boy said). You might also check out the Tonglin Bldg, there are 2 KTVs in there and I know there are 2 or more near there (close to where Watsons is).[/QUOTE]If I was rollin' in a Ferrari or any other highend sports car, I'll make sure never pick up any wg to draw attention to myself. I know there are few ktvs around the area, heck, there is one in my building however, it's located in basement. I did see some nice looking wg in and out of the place. I'll be in SZ next thursday so I guess I can wait til then.

Guys,

Does anyone know if n. 68 from the morning shift is still working there?

Or anyone got a girl to recommend?

Thanks,

Alex

[QUOTE=Alex Smith]Guys,

Does anyone know if n. 68 from the morning shift is still working there?

Or anyone got a girl to recommend?

Thanks,

Alex[/QUOTE]She was still working there as of Sep. If 68 isn't available 67 isn't a bad choice either. She's friendlier and talks to you like a GF if you speak Mandarin. Face 7 Body 8 Attitude 9

[QUOTE=Hit Da Panocha]She was still working there as of Sep. If 68 isn't available 67 isn't a bad choice either. She's friendlier and talks to you like a GF if you speak Mandarin. Face 7 Body 8 Attitude 9[/QUOTE]thanks

How would you rate n68?

And do you know what time she ends her shift?

Alex

[QUOTE=Alex Smith]thanks

How would you rate n68?

And do you know what time she ends her shift?

Alex[/QUOTE]She works the shift from 7am to 4pm or 5pm. n68 is tall, slim, small but perky breasts and long legs with long silky hair down to her waist. I'd rate her 8 face, 9 body, 7 attitude.

Hey Guys,

I usually only come to the Taipei thread to lurk and read since I don't get there anymore. I am currently in Singapore but lived in Taipei for 2 years going back about 4/5 years. However, there is a chance I could be back in Taipei in the near future. Which brings me to my favour. I am looking for a lady I used to see on a regular basis there. I'm sure it's a long shot but thought it was worth trying.

I found it hit and miss being a foreigner in Taipei for P4P. I did have a regular Taiwanese gf but enjoyed variety and sometimes P4P was the easiest way to enjoy that. I had sampled Yuki or whatever different names she used to advertise in the papers with a variety of results. But one day I found a massage joint (advertised in the paper) in the Panasonic building beside Sun Yat-Sen Memorial Hall. There were a variety of women working there and most of what went on there seemed to be legit. The first time I went I actually got a nice HJ and was able to feel the girl up and get her to take her top off. She was obviously into it as her pussy was dripping wet when I went down for a feel. Unfortunately she left and moved onto a legit job and I couldn't' get her contact details from the owner (an older lady). I went a few more times for some really great massages but couldn't seem to get an extras even though I was pitching a tent and obviously looking for it. Finally one of the ladies told me to ask for Sophia as she could probably help me. So when we were done and I was leaving she introduced me to Sophia. She was gorgeous and had a really mischevious look in her eye. She told me to book her next time and she would look after me.

Well, I did and she was great. Real big tease. Great massage and HJ. BBBJ etc. But no FS. She told me that if I wanted her for FS then I needed to book a room away from the spa and get her for outcall. Finally did that and I was hooked on her. She is originally from the east coast somewhere. Near Hualien I think. Not ethnically Chinese but one of the aboriginal groups. Great rack on her as well. We got to the point where I just booked through her and she gave me a better price since she could keep it all and not turn any over to the spa owner. Would always meet her offsite then.

Well, enough of my rambling and nostalgia. She eventually told me she was leaving the spa and opening her own massage place. I followed her there and we kept up our FS meetings but never at her new place. Always at a hotel nearby. This massage place of hers was in the area north of City Hall MRT. Kinda around Living Mall but south of Nanjing East Road.

I know its a long shot but does anyone know who I'm talking about? Her name is Sophia and I'm dying to see her again if and when I do make it back to Taipei. I have some pics of her but will not post them on her as I'm not sure what she is doing these days. But if someone thinks they might know then PM me and I can send you a pic to see if we're talking about the same lady.

Crossing my fingers and appreciate any help from you guys.

Thanks.

AF

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I was on my home from an unscuccessful hunting expedition at a night club. Buzzed and still hungry, I started talking with the taxi driver. He flat out said, I have a place with girls hotter than in that club. I was suspicious but curious, so I asked how much. 3500NT.

So off we went to an non descript building in taipei city, about 5 blocks away from LinSenBei Lu.

The girl was 23 yo, from Hubei (mainland china) with nice natural C cups. She washes you before and after the deed. The part was the BBBJ, as her tongue was long and talented. The total session time was 50 minutes. I would rate her about face-8, body-9 and attitude-8. She mentioned there are 3-4 other girls.

The only caveat with the story is mandarin ability is a must for talking with the papason and makes the time with the girl more fun.

So if you can't go to china, some of china can come to you.

I caught a cab a couple of weeks ago and the guy wanted to know if I was interested in a girl for $3000. Somehow I received the impression that $3000 is the standard price (specifically, not $3500). What was confusing to me was this guy also seemed to talk about having a couple of USA girls (?!!) for that price. I am relatively new to mongering and in the past have not been a frequent visitor to Taiwan, but still, that was just too much for me to imagine, and I'm just reporting what he seemed to be telling me. My Chinese is bad so there was some possibility I was misunderstanding him. (I would totally skip any USA girls in Taiwan for sure, maybe that is just a local oddity.)

Anyway the experience of me and my CBC friend is that the cab drivers like to pretend to get lost and run up the meter a bit before they finally arrive at the destination and drop you off. It's only an extra $40-$60 (this does not seem like much so they must be really desperate). I heard a lot of office guys lost their jobs and became cab drivers although they really do not know what they are doing, so some are bona fide lost. In any case there are too many cab drivers, leading to a loss in rides spread too thin, so cab drivers like to pad their fares. If you take cabs from hotels they won't do this and the bell guy will give you a slip of paper with the cab license # written down so you can complain to the cab company if you really want to if and when the driver pretends to get lost on you, so it is just a courtesy and deterrent.

I actually heard because of the oversupply that cab drivers as a group are losing money, the economy is so bad- they can't get enough rides to get enough income to afford the rent and feed their families.

So some of the cab drivers are hurting for money and may use conversations about mongering as an excuse to get lost and you pay a bit more. Just something to be aware of.

All said, if a cabbie were to steer me to a someplace I could determine on the spot was good, I might be tempted to tip him a few hundred. (Dunno how to determine in advance though.)

My first post (please have mercy.).

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[QUOTE=Jammin 2]I was on my home from an unscuccessful hunting expedition at a night club. Buzzed and still hungry, I started talking with the taxi driver. He flat out said, I have a place with girls hotter than in that club. I was suspicious but curious, so I asked how much. 3500NT.

So off we went to an non descript building in taipei city, about 5 blocks away from LinSenBei Lu.

The girl was 23 yo, from Hubei (mainland china) with nice natural C cups. She washes you before and after the deed. The part was the BBBJ, as her tongue was long and talented. The total session time was 50 minutes. I would rate her about face-8, body-9 and attitude-8. She mentioned there are 3-4 other girls.

The only caveat with the story is mandarin ability is a must for talking with the papason and makes the time with the girl more fun.

So if you can't go to china, some of china can come to you.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the place is call one floor one phoniex, usually require an insider to bring you in, your case the cab driver. The price usually it's 3200NT, if you have a friend with you, then the price drops to 2800NT, the service is not bad consider in TP, however the quality is hit and miss. If you don't like what you see, then you can wait and wait for another room to go into, but it does take a bit of time. To me, if I'm gonna p4p in TW, I rather find a TW girl b/c I think they are much move attractive, and TW girls do not have the Chinese accent which is a turn off for me and many other Taiwanese mongers but the cost of TW girls almost double if not more. But if you don't know mandrian well, it's all greek to you. But then again, I monger big time when I'm in China b/c of the accessbility and price. Anyhow, thanks for the report and keep them coming.

Friends,

I am in Taiwan for a month. Some posts on this forum suggest that things go more smoothly if you can negotiate services in Chinese. My Chinese is limited to words and phrases that you can learn from classes or books. Can anyone help me and other readers with a bit of vocabulary? It would be great to know how to pronounce Chinese equivalents of hj, bj, fs, and anything else that seems relevant. If you think there are any Chinese characters that would be helpful (maybe love hotel?), I bet many of us would appreciate those as well.

[QUOTE=Wandermunky]Friends,

I am in Taiwan for a month. Some posts on this forum suggest that things go more smoothly if you can negotiate services in Chinese. My Chinese is limited to words and phrases that you can learn from classes or books. Can anyone help me and other readers with a bit of vocabulary? It would be great to know how to pronounce Chinese equivalents of hj, bj, fs, and anything else that seems relevant. If you think there are any Chinese characters that would be helpful (maybe love hotel?), I bet many of us would appreciate those as well.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to Taipei, home of the men who wish they were in China.....

I am sure I can give you basic vocab words, just post a list and I can post the Chinese (Taiwanese equivalents as best I know). Have not done too much mongering recently since my freebies but please be careful. I got a text message from a mamasan that I have used for over 2 years warning me of providers who offer you girls then ambush you and then extort money from you.

So PLEASE BE CAREFUL OUT THERE. Be wary of any unwanted solicitations and try to stick with providers you have experience with. Although the laws here are pretty generous to Johns, the press love sex scandels, so lets not appear on the front page of Apple news.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Welcome to Taipei, home of the men who wish they were in China.....

I am sure I can give you basic vocab words, just post a list and I can post the Chinese (Taiwanese equivalents as best I know). Have not done too much mongering recently since my freebies but please be careful. I got a text message from a mamasan that I have used for over 2 years warning me of providers who offer you girls then ambush you and then extort money from you.

So PLEASE BE CAREFUL OUT THERE. Be wary of any unwanted solicitations and try to stick with providers you have experience with. Although the laws here are pretty generous to Johns, the press love sex scandels, so lets not appear on the front page of Apple news.[/QUOTE]

"home of the men who wish they were in China" LOL, that's funny, myself just got back from a awesome weekend from Shenzhen. Anyhow thanks for the warning, even though the laws here don't really punish Johns, however the gangsters here is something you really don't want to deal with. A friend of my got into trouble with the gangsters while back, they wanted NT60k to let everything go. But my friend was stupid enough to think he's connection will get him out of trouble, so started to bad mouth the gangster and telling them he is connected and give them his business card. To make long story short, he got ***** slap few times and ended up paying NT300k to keep his family from knowing. With bad econ, the gangsters are more agressive to extortion. Be smart and be safe, for me, maybe I'll go KTV once a while to get a BJ, I'll save my time and money to China every few month or so since I've quite of few well established connection there.

[QUOTE=Wandermunky]Can anyone help me and other readers with a bit of vocabulary?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2216[/url]

Hello, everyone,

I'm not really a poster here, but I've always used this forum as a guide whenever I have trips abroad to check out the local strategies and the best places. So far the tips and reports have never let me down. So again, I am looking to ISG for help. I'll be in Taiwan this week for only a day, 1 night, which I hope I can add to my list of successful exploits. I've read most of the posts in this forum, and my understanding is that Caesars is the most advisable place for someone looking to spend around 5k, and does not speak a word of Chinese. The only problem I have is that I'm very particular about my selection, as I am a bit different when it comes to taste in women, which is why I am a fan of the "aquarium" type setup. From my understanding, in Caesar's, there is no aquarium? You just settle for whatever they bring you? If this is so, I would really love to hear of alternative places that have an aquarium or selection from you to choose from, yet be as "user-friendly" as Caesar's.

By the way, this is my first time in Taiwan, and as mentioned I do not speak a word of Chinese. Also, maybe for reference, the place I am staying in is in Changchun Road. Taipei, Taiwan, in case location is an issue.

Thank you very much, and I hope I can get some help as I'm leaving in a couple of days. I could share information on Bangkok and the Philippines if anybody is willing to "swap" ideas, hehe.

Thanks again very much.

[QUOTE=Pangmt]Hello, everyone,

I'm not really a poster here, but I've always used this forum as a guide whenever I have trips abroad to check out the local strategies and the best places. So far the tips and reports have never let me down. So again, I am looking to ISG for help. I'll be in Taiwan this week for only a day, 1 night, which I hope I can add to my list of successful exploits. I've read most of the posts in this forum, and my understanding is that Caesars is the most advisable place for someone looking to spend around 5k, and does not speak a word of Chinese. The only problem I have is that I'm very particular about my selection, as I am a bit different when it comes to taste in women, which is why I am a fan of the "aquarium" type setup. From my understanding, in Caesar's, there is no aquarium? You just settle for whatever they bring you? If this is so, I would really love to hear of alternative places that have an aquarium or selection from you to choose from, yet be as "user-friendly" as Caesar's.

By the way, this is my first time in Taiwan, and as mentioned I do not speak a word of Chinese. Also, maybe for reference, the place I am staying in is in Changchun Road. Taipei, Taiwan, in case location is an issue.

Thank you very much, and I hope I can get some help as I'm leaving in a couple of days. I could share information on Bangkok and the Philippines if anybody is willing to "swap" ideas, hehe.

Thanks again very much.[/QUOTE]

Well, the best place for you would be Ceasars b/c it's a for sure thing, the selection is not the best but it will do. There aren't many(any) other places like what you have experience in BK and PH. Most of place require locals and insider to bring you in. Unless you want to go KTV yourself and get a BJ or HJ, take out varies in different establishment. And the price goes from KTV room an hr 2000 and up plus take out fee. Ceasar's is very easy to get to, it's on Nanjing East Road section 4 across from Taipei Arena, any taxi driver is able to take you there. Once you get there, just get into entrance of the mall and go up the elevator. Have fun

hi guys, was in town early so I decided to try this place.

[url]www.shining-star.com.tw[/url]

the website isn't kidding, the girls are HOT. And on Wednesdays and Fridays they have "custom days" were the ladies will dress up in different customs (tomorrow will be "princess day")

The girls are all trained to be chatty with you, and basically pretend to be interested in you. Now, they will all want you to take them out but NO S service. I got my massage girl to admit to me that some girls in there does it, but not her (yeah right, probably wanted me to visit her a few more times.)

Anyway, if you just want to chat with a hot Taiwanese girl while see massages you, this is the place. If you look for extra, then you need to work on your game but it's not impossible. After 2.5 hours I got my girl to do.... (secret)

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]hi guys, was in town early so I decided to try this place.

[url]www.shining-star.com.tw[/url]

the website isn't kidding, the girls are HOT. And on Wednesdays and Fridays they have "custom days" were the ladies will dress up in different customs (tomorrow will be "princess day")

The girls are all trained to be chatty with you, and basically pretend to be interested in you. Now, they will all want you to take them out but NO S service. I got my massage girl to admit to me that some girls in there does it, but not her (yeah right, probably wanted me to visit her a few more times.)

Anyway, if you just want to chat with a hot Taiwanese girl while see massages you, this is the place. If you look for extra, then you need to work on your game but it's not impossible. After 2.5 hours I got my girl to do.... (secret)[/QUOTE]

Abc boy: Glad you are back in town, are you sure you not my friend? b/c a friend of mine just got back in town last week LOL. Anyhow, I walk though LinSen earlier tonite, holy cow, so many hot looking women were out and about, however, I just got back from Shenzhen and I need to lay low for a bit to recharge. Shining-Star is well know place cater to some high-end business esp. to Japanese. From what I heard, 90% of girls do offer FS outside the establishment. Shit, Tango and Wego just down the street for full on contact. Anyhow enjoy your time here if ya get tired of mongering, let me know, maybe let's together over a beer or 2.

thanks Roni, would love to have a beer with you, however, I'm leaving on Friday and I need to get a lot of things done, but definitely next time. We should get all the regular boys in here together and have a nice bar meet.

Ok, after I got my appetite worked up by Shining Star I called my manager to hook me up at Emperor again. Now, the first girl he sent in was amazing, name is "Ting Ting", however, the girl told me "sorry, I hope you don't mind, but I have a flu" and I was like WTF?!?!?! I told her politely that as hot as she is I can't risk doing business with a girl with flu, and I gave her $1000 NTD and sent her away.

My manager must be on drugs because the next 6 girls he sent in was below my expectation (my appetite is at least 9 face now.) So I bounced them all and my manager was very apologetic and took me to another KTV named "97 Taipei", and in come this holy cow hot model. She must be 5'10" tall, perfect figure (breast, butt, everything) and 9.5 face. I was like YAAAAA, until my manager told me "thank you, that would be $28K NTD" and I was like fuck what? He then told me 97 Taipei changed their policy for now on all take outs need to pay for the FULL day, which is 9-6 = 9 hours x $2000 + $8000 FS fee + $2000 room and "free beer" fee. Although I have no problem paying for high quality I only have $25K in my wallet (damn), so I had to decline and we went back to Emperor when my manager says two more hot girls came in.

So went back, and in comes "Ker Ker", face 9, body 3, absolutely no chest, but I was desperate so I said whatever. But boy I did not regret this decision.

First we went to have hot pot, and then after that we went to WeGo. Immediately into the room she started to kiss me passionately as if she's my girlfriend, and we kiss and start to slowly undress each other, very passionate and the only working girl that truly treated me as a boyfriend (others were like, go shower and get naked and let's get it on, no romance.) This was different, it was truly GFE.

Not only that, like any other Asian girl she was horrible on top, but notice I said was. I taught her how to do it right and unlike other girls that whine about "too tire" being on top and rather be a dead fish on the bottom, she was working me on top with what I have taught her! Amazing! After a long and passionate play I finally couldn't hold on and give in.

She doesn't have great body but remember her girl friend attitude and passion in bed is more than enough.

"Ker Ker", Emperor Club, Ba-De Road/Dun-Hua Road

Thanks for the tip Roni, I guess Caesars's it is. If I don't like the first girl they send me, can I bump her and pick another one? Is that possible?

Hey ABC, nice to see you active again. Been reading your posts since way back, and it's one hell of a way to spend your after work time. Any suggestions for a first-timer in TW with a lesser budget than you hehe? Would be nice to have a great experience that I can write a report of as well like you do.

Thanks in advance guys.

[QUOTE=Pangmt]Thanks for the tip Roni, I guess Caesars's it is. If I don't like the first girl they send me, can I bump her and pick another one? Is that possible?

Hey ABC, nice to see you active again. Been reading your posts since way back, and it's one hell of a way to spend your after work time. Any suggestions for a first-timer in TW with a lesser budget than you hehe? Would be nice to have a great experience that I can write a report of as well like you do.

Thanks in advance guys.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you bump til you see what you like.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]thanks Roni, would love to have a beer with you, however, I'm leaving on Friday and I need to get a lot of things done, but definitely next time. We should get all the regular boys in here together and have a nice bar meet.[/QUOTE]

Abc boy: Wow, 28K to play, that just too rich for my blood. 20k is the limit for me, and that's once a blue moon, but more power to you. If you willing to pocket out that kind of dough, have you thought about paying China a visit, with the amount you spend, you can easily arrange a quick trip to Shanghai or Beijin, the selection are every bit as good as TW and you can have 3p, 4p or however you like in a 5 star hotel. Don't give me wrong, I like to help out TW's econ., but damn, 28K!!! Have good trip back to the States, myself will be heading back end of the month for couple of weeks. Time to get my white meat fixes.

[QUOTE=Pangmt]Thanks for the tip Roni, I guess Caesars's it is. If I don't like the first girl they send me, can I bump her and pick another one? Is that possible?

Hey ABC, nice to see you active again. Been reading your posts since way back, and it's one hell of a way to spend your after work time. Any suggestions for a first-timer in TW with a lesser budget than you hehe? Would be nice to have a great experience that I can write a report of as well like you do.

Thanks in advance guys.[/QUOTE]

Caesars is good option for you, only 4.3K and sometimes you do get girls that are around 25, but mostly late 20s to late 30s is your best bet. Do bounce girls if you don't like them, however, remember this is "budget play" so the managers isn't as accommodating or as patient as my KTV adventures so don't bounce more than twice (my suggestion.) Remember, it's 4.3K, they won't bend over backwards for you and all of these places are gang-run establishments. I know you read about my adventures that bounce girls like crazy, but remember to them I'm a 20K per customers and I repeat myself to them, so they are very accommodating.

If look doesn't matter for you and budget is an issue, go to Long Shan Temple and go through the snake valleys, sometimes there are good looking 40s-50s girl willing to do it for 1-2K, and some 60s as well.

There are more I can tell you, but the principle is the same.

KTV - 20K+ adventure
Saunas - 4.3K budget massage and lay
Long Shan Temple - 1-2K extreme budget mongers

Now, you can try to call those ads for massage in English newspapers, Yuki, etc. Remember to ask for 3K (no matter what she tells you over the phone) but they are hit and miss.

Anyway, went to Emperor, got a hottie and she looks like a Japanese AV star, with 7 body, very good conversationist, and the cost is 19K. Went to the night market to eat some food as she said she's hungry, then we went to WeGo, and we got it going. She is very submissive, got her to shower with me and clean me up like a maid, very submissive. Then it's bed time and here's what really pissed me off.

Her period came!!!! Of course for safety reasons I stopped the show, but she begged me not to tell my manager because not only will she lose the S money but she will be heavily penalized, so I said fine, I won't tell.

What a waste of money..........

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Anyway, went to Emperor, got a hottie and she looks like a Japanese AV star, with 7 body, very good conversationist, and the cost is 19K. Went to the night market to eat some food as she said she's hungry, then we went to WeGo, and we got it going. She is very submissive, got her to shower with me and clean me up like a maid, very submissive. Then it's bed time and here's what really pissed me off.

Her period came!!!! Of course for safety reasons I stopped the show, but she begged me not to tell my manager because not only will she lose the S money but she will be heavily penalized, so I said fine, I won't tell.

What a waste of money..........[/QUOTE]

That feckin' suck, well, did she try to make it up in BJ or back door? 19k is a lot of money just for companion at night market and shower

[QUOTE=Roni44]That feckin' suck, well, did she try to make it up in BJ or back door? 19k is a lot of money just for companion at night market and shower[/QUOTE]Stay away from Taiwan and women in Taiwan are among the most expensive and least agreeable in the world. Even Taiwanese men prefer having good time in Macau or China.

I'm on vacation in Taiwan for about another month and decided after reading this thread to head into Taipei today to take a look around (I'm staying in Taoyuan/Nankan). I wanted to see what "budget mongering" looks like in Taiwan, so I headed to the temple. All I can say is. I wasn't able to find any of the better looking ones, and the ones I did C. Yeah, those are pretty extreme budget selections.

Next trip in, I'm going to head over to SC. It seems like taking the 39 bus from Taipei Main Station and getting off over the bridge is infinitely faster than walking the 2KM.

I would've looked harder for something to do, but I'm headed to Macau in a week and a half.

Ok guys, this is my last report as I needed to head off back to the States, I'm only in Taipei for 2 full days for business (and pleasure, lol)

Anyway, I got it done in the afternoon so I told my manager to hook me up. He suggested "Starlight Big Road" KTV at the intersection of Lin-Shen N. Road and Jin-Zhou Street. But it's uniform shop (meaning girls won't be 9 face, but they can play!) So I say why not.

Went in, sent in 7 girls for me to pick, all of them face 5-6 (remember I have high standards) but I picked a face 7. Then the chat and we sing a song, then the "show song" starts and she starts to dance and strip tease on me. So far the same, but this one is different! She started to take off my shirts and my pant (leaving my underwear) and started to suck on my nipples! Wow! And then she started to flirt with me and then keep flirting and sucking! Holy cow. Then she started to play with my little brother and she knows how to play! But in fear of financially being ripped off I always ask the price first, and I asked her how much for this extra service (HJ) and in my surprise she said "no charge, it's our policy for free HJ, but for other jobs you need to pre-negotiate the price", I was like hell ya, I never turn down a free lunch! So she did a HJ for me all the while keep sucking my nipples and flirting with me.

For those of you that don't want to pay the 7K-8K "take out charge" for full S and just wanted a HJ this is the perfect place for you. Only $2000 per hour plus $2000 for room/drink and you get strip tease, flirting, and HJ. Next time I'm organizing a big KTV trip for this place and this is the place we should go.

Ok, remember I said I hit a double. Last night I was so turned off by the period coming girl so I decided to do one more girl before I head by to the states. So at 10 p.m. I called may manager again and ask to see "Ting Ting" the flu girl from two days ago. I was told that she's healed so I asked for her. Again a great decision.

She has 8 face and 7 body, but excellent cute girl attitude. She flirts with me the whole time as this cute little girl, and it made the whole experience that much better. And to my surprise she knows how to get it done in bed, and on top! Ting Ting at Emperor, get her next time if you want to play games with a cutie.

Ok, needing to pack and get ready for trip back to the States, see ya!

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Ok, remember I said I hit a double. Last night I was so turned off by the period coming girl so I decided to do one more girl before I head by to the states. So at 10 pm I called may manager again and ask to see "Ting Ting" the flu girl from two days ago. I was told that she's healed so I asked for her. Again a great decision.[/QUOTE]Looks like a fantastic night out ABC, am looking to hit that Emperor place you mention for some upscaling as I have been to these uniform shops a couple of times.

[QUOTE=Bluerose]Stay away from Taiwan and women in Taiwan are among the most expensive and least agreeable in the world. Even Taiwanese men prefer having good time in Macau or China.[/QUOTE]

Bluerose:I totally agree with you, but not everyone can just hop on the flight and head to motherland for blow a load. As much as it's pain in the butt in Taiwan, if you look hard enough, there are plenty of fishes in the pond. You just need to know where and how to look for. The econ ain't much better here compare to the world, some of the girls need to pay bills too. And honestly, if money wasn't the factor, I would always go with Taiwanese girl over Chinese.

Abc boy: If you are interested in KTV with HJ, next time you in town, I can arrange something for you along with few of my ABC buddies, the KTV they took me it's about 2000 an hour, all beers and HJ are included, if you want to BJ, it's little more, and FS is just a bit more too. It would be hella party as it's been a while since I went to KTV partying. Have good trip back to the State, and let's get something going next time you in town.

[QUOTE=Roni44]Bluerose: I totally agree with you, but not everyone can just hop on the flight and head to motherland for blow a load. As much as it's pain in the butt in Taiwan, if you look hard enough, there are plenty of fishes in the pond. You just need to know where and how to look for. The econ ain't much better here compare to the world, some of the girls need to pay bills too. And honestly, if money wasn't the factor, I would always go with Taiwanese girl over Chinese.

Abc boy: If you are interested in KTV with HJ, next time you in town, I can arrange something for you along with few of my ABC buddies, the KTV they took me it's about 2000 an hour, all beers and HJ are included, if you want to BJ, it's little more, and FS is just a bit more too. It would be hella party as it's been a while since I went to KTV partying. Have good trip back to the State, and let's get something going next time you in town.[/QUOTE]Roni44,

Thanks, but I don't understand why Taiwanese girls have a hold on you?

Yes, from I read in this forum, it does seem time has changed a little, but for all I know, it would still cost one a leg or an arm if one fancied a prettier and sexier Taiwanese girls. For that money 2000NT, you could have BJ by three girls in pink salons in Japan during Happy Hour. For 18000 NT, you could be served like a king in soap lands in Japan and no doubt with that amount of money, anal sex can be easily arranged. The only problem is this industry in Japan is not receptive to foreigners in general unless you speak passable Japanese. Even with that, it remains uncertain that an entry permit would be given.

[QUOTE=Bluerose]Roni44,

Thanks, but I don't understand why Taiwanese girls have a hold on you?

Yes, from I read in this forum, it does seem time has changed a little, but for all I know, it would still cost one a leg or an arm if one fancied a prettier and sexier Taiwanese girls. For that money 2000NT, you could have BJ by three girls in pink salons in Japan during Happy Hour. For 18000 NT, you could be served like a king in soap lands in Japan and no doubt with that amount of money, anal sex can be easily arranged. The only problem is this industry in Japan is not receptive to foreigners in general unless you speak passable Japanese. Even with that, it remains uncertain that an entry permit would be given.[/QUOTE]

Bluerose, it's not like I have a thing for Taiwanese girls. I like to monger all different race and glad I was able to so far. However from perspective of many Taiwanese males, where many China gals come from different villages speak different dialects. And often when they speak, the accents is really a mood killer. Haha I know, I don't pay them to talk, it's all about performance on the bed, but sometimes, if you meet a hot one that like to chat, and with such ugly accent, makes me want just to pop my load and get it over with. So if I have my choice between CN or TW, I would almost always pick TW. Again always exception to the rules, I met quite of few very nice ladies in Shanghai who really do wonder and accent to my liking. To give you better understanding of what I'm saying, it's like comparing to a regular english accent to a redneck/hick accent. Which one would u prefer?

Japan is awesome, as matter of fact, I dated few Japanese exchange students back in the days and it was one of the better moments in my life. I mongered few times when I was in Japan, but the experience was as you described, not foreigner friendly, luckily I had a local took me around. Cheers

[QUOTE=Roni44]Bluerose: I totally agree with you, but not everyone can just hop on the flight and head to motherland for blow a load.[/QUOTE]Possible Passport/Visa issues aside, what's holding you back? The cost? Round trip to China can be had for 6000 NT. A so-so hotel can be had for 1000NT a night. You can almost spend a weekend in China for the price of 1 trip to the Sauna. Once you're there, FS is SO much cheaper there. Just save up a bit and get a whole bunch of girls in 1 weekend.

I mean, I'm not saying you should always pack your mongering into 1 weekend like that, all of us need to space out our need to release sometimes. But all the people here who do the sauna thing every week, or have a multi-times-a-week SC habit, I find it hard to believe they can't save up a little bit to spend a weekend in China once in a while.

Variety is the spice of life. I'm new to this forum because this is my first experience mongering in Asia. I live in the USA so most of my mongering experience is there. And honestly, as relatively cheap (even when taking into account the difference in income) as sex is in Asia, I envy you guys who live here.

[QUOTE=Roni44]Haha I know, I don't pay them to talk, it's all about performance on the bed, but sometimes, if you meet a hot one that like to chat, and with such ugly accent, makes me want just to pop my load and get it over with. [/QUOTE]

Roni, I'm pretty sure if you move to other country and you use local language then your accent will kill many people.
You sound like fucking racist.

[QUOTE=Oaktree]Possible Passport/Visa issues aside, what's holding you back? The cost? Round trip to China can be had for 6000 NT. A so-so hotel can be had for 1000NT a night. You can almost spend a weekend in China for the price of 1 trip to the Sauna. Once you're there, FS is SO much cheaper there. Just save up a bit and get a whole bunch of girls in 1 weekend.

I mean, I'm not saying you should always pack your mongering into 1 weekend like that, all of us need to space out our need to release sometimes. But all the people here who do the sauna thing every week, or have a multi-times-a-week SC habit, I find it hard to believe they can't save up a little bit to spend a weekend in China once in a while.

Variety is the spice of life. I'm new to this forum because this is my first experience mongering in Asia. I live in the USA so most of my mongering experience is there. And honestly, as relatively cheap (even when taking into account the difference in income) as sex is in Asia, I envy you guys who live here.[/QUOTE]
NO doubt it is cheaper in China, sometimes including the flight and hotel, but getting the time to go with a legitimate excuse can be challenging to those with girlfriend or wife. It actually takes the better part of a day to get there. Leave for airport 2 hours before flight, 2 hour flight, 1 hour immigration/customs. Same for return trip. So depending on flight times going for the weekend really is 2 half-days of travel and 8000NT of non-mongoring costs. So sometimes it is convenient to pay 5k and be back in bed the same night.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72]Roni, I'm pretty sure if you move to other country and you use local language then your accent will kill many people.
You sound like fucking racist.[/QUOTE]

Tabasco72, First I would like to apologize if I do sound like a "fucking racist" to you. Second, before you calling me a "fucking racist", please get to know me by let's say over a beer or KTV parties with bunch of forum members. I don't need to defend myself since our encounter only on the forum, but I can assure you I love all chicks and fucking them all whether she is black, latino, asian, or white. The accents I was indicating was simply a personally preference, and also many of my fellow Taiwanese monger's experience. My friends and I share many conversation over the gals between Taiwan and China, often we do get turn off by some of the accents by China gals. Does that mean I hate them, I don't think so. So please next time you decide to call me a racist, get to know me first. Ask around your Taiwanese friends regarding to the accents I speak of china gals, and ask them who would they prefer. I can assure you the answer will be in my favor. And I do have some chinese accent often when I speak English, and it's ok to laugh all you want, it doesn't bother me. Again, please accept my deepest apology as I'm here to make friends and share my experiences, I will word my thoughts clearly and carefully from now on to ensure no misunderstanding will occur in the future. Cheers

[QUOTE=Jammin 2]NO doubt it is cheaper in China, sometimes including the flight and hotel, but getting the time to go with a legitimate excuse can be challenging to those with girlfriend or wife. It actually takes the better part of a day to get there. Leave for airport 2 hours before flight, 2 hour flight, 1 hour immigration/customs. Same for return trip. So depending on flight times going for the weekend really is 2 half-days of travel and 8000NT of non-mongoring costs. So sometimes it is convenient to pay 5k and be back in bed the same night.[/QUOTE]

Jammin 2: thank you for interpret my thoughts, You've nailed my last visit to China 12/3~12/6. My buddies and I took off to airport 4 in the afternoon, got to Hk around 9:30pm, got on the bus, took the train, and checked in hotel in Luohu at midnight. Did a freebie, then next morning took care of business and rest of time is for p4p. Again, did the whole route back to Taiwan on Sunday. while my buddies and I had great time, but also we were tired by the end of the trip. The entire trip include airfare, hotels, food, and mongering cost about 15000NT. My buddies and I are planning on doing a China trip once every 2~3 month, but anything closer than that, I'll have hard time convincing my girl why I go there so much. Anyone interesting in doing such trip, please let me know and we can figure something out. As I've been mongering in Shenzhen 3 times now, there are so many places remain to be discover, and recently be friend with a DJ over QQ, so though her connection, I hope she can provide some goodies for us.

Dear Roni, I'm so sorry for your feeling. I didn't call you racist but wrote that you sound like. We pay for sex but it's not a reason to treat the WG without respect. Origin of the girls is not their fault. I understand your feeling about the accent; however, is not more important what girl says than how girl says? ;)
I wish you only happy hunting and beautiful (not only body but also accent) girls

[QUOTE=Tabasco72]Dear Roni, I'm so sorry for your feeling. I didn't call you racist but wrote that you sound like. We pay for sex but it's not a reason to treat the WG without respect. Origin of the girls is not their fault. I understand your feeling about the accent; however, is not more important what girl says than how girl says? ;)
I wish you only happy hunting and beautiful (not only body but also accent) girls[/QUOTE]

Tabasco, thank you for your understanding, regardless of origin and color, I treat every WG with the most respect. And I do not blame them for their accents or other shortcoming, as no one is perfect. I truely enjoy china gals most of time even the accent is in the factor, again, it's just a personnal preference. As I'm checking into few KTV in Linsen with a insider, from what I've heard the price has gone down to 1600/hr + HJ or even lower. Once I have a good confirmation, I'll organize a KTV party for everyone on the forum and it would be a great way to meet some of the members. Cheers

[QUOTE=Roni44]T As I'm checking into few KTV in Linsen with a insider, from what I've heard the price has gone down to 1600/hr + HJ or even lower.[/QUOTE]The lowest I heard so far is 2500 for 90 mins, which includes 10 beers and 1 CBJ.

[QUOTE=TouringAsia]The lowest I heard so far is 2500 for 90 mins, which includes 10 beers and 1 CBJ.[/QUOTE]

Well, from what I know, the price is dropping and at all time low, however to get that price you really need to have good connection. If you have, pls do share to the forum. Cheers

Roni, thanks for your understanding too. I'm overreacted sometimes.

[QUOTE=Jammin 2]NO doubt it is cheaper in China, sometimes including the flight and hotel, but getting the time to go with a legitimate excuse can be challenging to those with girlfriend or wife. It actually takes the better part of a day to get there. Leave for airport 2 hours before flight, 2 hour flight, 1 hour immigration/customs. Same for return trip. So depending on flight times going for the weekend really is 2 half-days of travel and 8000NT of non-mongoring costs. So sometimes it is convenient to pay 5k and be back in bed the same night.[/QUOTE]You hit it right on the money. For some of us a China trip even once every two or three months elicits suspicion, and out of the question especially if China has nothing to do with your work. So for those of you that have the means and the freedom, you will continue to enjoy at least my envy.

Dated a 5'7" tall, face 8 body 9, white skin (and smooth) color, mid 20s girl named Candy at KeeLung's "railroad streets" several weeks ago. Great legs/ass curve like Westerner chicks; however, only B cup boobs.
She probably wouldn't do BBBJ but no harm to ask. I was surprised she said OK without a doubt. Her looks made me very horny. Great BJ and pump for just NT1,000. Too bad she wouldn't give me her cell #.
I knew she was too good for 1K. I went back a few days later. The pimp told me she wouldn't be there for a few weeks. I went back another day and the Mamasan told me she went to China and won't be back for several months. Mamasan asked me to date someone else. I was not interested...
Just like what I expected. The good quality usually won't stay at low-cost market for long but still fun to check it out occasionally. And I am going tonight....

Hi guys, I'm in Taipei now and renewing my research here. Its been a few months since the last time I was here.

High end KTV. The girls are hot, and you do get to choose, but its not cost effective. Expect to spend $700US if you want to take them home. What's worse, you can cycle through many girls and not find one you like if you are really picky, and you can end up spending $350US for the nite, and NOT take anyone back.

Outcall - Miss Ma, Yuki. I think these are the best bet for the time and money spent. I found the best strategy is to just tell them you will pay the maximum $6k and tell her to send the hottest girl. Also, give an age and weight range, and that way its hard for them to send someone you don't want. I reject the first couple girls and they will get the idea of what quality you want.

Shining Star - I realized that this place usually offers a legit massage. However, some of the girls will do special services if they like you. Not all do it so dont assume they will. I already went thru 4 girls and was lucky to find 2 cute ones that WILL do it outside the place. they will charge $1400x3 hours, plus whatever they want for the special service. negotiate ahead of time over the phone or else you will get ripped off if you try to negotiate when they arrive. Mine charged me 10k extra but she was pretty hot, 8.5. Overall, I don't think its a good idea to get a 90 minute massage hoping a girl will offer special services. However, if you do go for a massage, its pretty obvious if your girl will do it. Generally, if they give a good massage, they are serious about massaging. If they are working hard to sell you a massage at your hotel, they probably will go out and provide some special services. Sunday is the best day to try to find special services because its harder for them to make their quotas on Sunday.

Also, I noticed that Yuki and other outcalls are no longer advertising on the classified section of Taipei Times and other papers. There are onjly incall numbers now. I found that strange. Does anyone have Yuki's number? I lost it.

I'm planning to live in Taipei for 6 months next year so i will keep you all posted with all the new information I have. (I basically don't need to work and consider mongering my hobby.)

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[QUOTE=James Chang 313]Hi guys, I'm in Taipei now and renewing my research here. Its been a few months since the last time I was here.[/QUOTE]
I think the Taipei Times still has the usual ads. I'll check. Except, IIRC on Sunday they run fewer escort ads. Maybe out of respect for the church ads. Good luck and, suggest you review the last few months of posts. Not much new here. The MOI seems to be moving along its plan to legalize our hobby (search the Taipei Times website for 'prostitution') but when this will actually result in more skanky on my hang-down is anyone's guess.

[QUOTE=James Chang]I'm planning to live in Taipei for 6 months next year so i will keep you all posted with all the new information I have. (I basically don't need to work and consider mongering my hobby.)[/QUOTE]

damn ain't that a great way to spend 6 months.

hope you have a great time here. I have had a steady provider for the last 3 years and she gives me pretty good quality. I have heard from her of extortion schemes recently (see some of my previous posts) so do be careful out there. The law is very lenient towards brothers here so many schemes either focus on public humiliation or violence.

Have fun playing and be safe everyone.

Hi everyone,

This is my first of several reports.

First of all, I’m from Taipei, but have spent most of my life in the West. I was transferred back to Taipei this July. I look Taiwanese and speak mandarin fluently.

I’ve been a reader of this forum since July, however recent talks of shining star and the lack of activity in this thread has really encouraged me to post my experiences. (Before I get to shining star, let me start off with some general reports)

After checking out the forum in July the first place I decided to go was Caesars. Because it seemed like a safe bet as Taipei has changed way too much since the last time I was here.

It’s exactly like how everyone’s described it in the forum. Get in, take off your shoes, (one of the times they charged me 100 NTD for shining my shoes, I didn’t really want to complain knowing it was mafia run), shower, go to the rest area, act cool and the mamasan will approach you.

I’ve been there many times since July so I’ll just do a brief summary:

The only girl worth mentioning is No.67, a 7 in my opinion; she’s very GFE, kissing and everything as well as BBBJs. I even got her number after the second time but never called her or visited her after that.

Other worth picking are No.23 and 27; both have nice attitudes and provide good service, which at 4200NTD in Taipei, is good enough for me.

One time I went at like 1am, finished at about 2, the girl told me I can sleep in the room until morning, but man, the whole night I keep hearing these moans coming from all the surrounding rooms. (I have to give praise to fellow mongers as I never get any girl to moan so loud) So after about 3.5 hours of listening to all this moaning I was like screw this, went out and told them I wanted another girl. Should’ve seen their faces; anyway in the end the whole night wasn’t that much fun since I got no sleep, tired myself out, and had to work the next day.

Oh there’s this other time on a Friday night, they told me the cops will come and I had to wait until 2 for the specials, so I had a normal massage, during which cops showed up! It was pretty intense man. But everything was cool after I told them my Taiwan ID number. (Good thing I had it memorized). Afterwards the mamasan told me they are looking for criminals and they usually come on Friday nights. (Needless to say, never went on Fridays after that).

Apologies on the long report on the familiar Caesars, but I do like this place.
I will focus on other places after this.

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Hi everyone,

I agree the fishbowls of Thailand and China are much easier, but I really do find Taiwan girls to have better facial structure and thinner bodies. Of girls all over the world, I think taiwan girls are the prettiest. That's why I'm trying to figure out the most efficient way to hobby here. (Does anyone know if they have a *** type site for taiwan)?

Bad news: I checked the Taipei Times and China Post for the last 4 days. There are no more ads for outcalls, and only a few ads for incall massage. I think there must be a policy shift recently that they are no longer allowed to advertise for outcall massages in newspapers. This means that we will have to get outcall numbers by word of mouth. The good news is that I discovered how outcalls work and how to best utilize them.

I've concluded that outcalls are the best bet in Taipei, compared to bathhouses, high end KTV, massage parlor etc. The reason is because it is much more discrete, allowing many girls who are 18-24 to do it without any of their friends knowing. Many of them plainly don't want to be seen working at KTV and the schedule is much more flexible for them at outcall. This means you can get a much hotter girl, for a lot less money. I agree that the KTV girls are pretty too, but you need to invest so much time, money, drinking, and interface with so many people, most of whom are ripping you off.

I have talked to a lot of the girls and found out that this is how it works: Most of the girls are students or working jobs, but live with parents. Because of this, 2pm – 8pm is the best time to call an outcall. The way the system in TPE works is that the girls are all independents. The usually work for 1-3 managers who will call them and tell them where the client is. These managers are typically NOT the people to deal with the clients. Those are usually Miss Ma, Yuki types (we'll call them 'Aunts') who coordinate between customers and the managers. The price can range from 3k-10k depending MORE on your negotiating ability than the quality of the girl. Its much better to try to get the phone of the managers directly because they are the people who have actually seen the girls, so you can explain what you want to them. I'm sure some of you have realized that using outcalls in TPE seems like they send random girls to you. This is because most of the 'aunts' have never seen any of the girls. In TPE, the girls keep half the money, the managers/aunts keep half. (raw deal.) A good way to test to see if you deal with a manager or aunt, is to ask your girl the name of her contact person. If its not the same name as the person you call, then you are not dealing with someone who sees the girls, and there is more chance you will not get what you want. (more middlemen= higher costs too.)

Outcalls in TPE differ than some other countries in that: 1) you get to reject the girls, and they will send you a new one, as many times as you want, no hard feelings. (I usually tip the girls I send back and give them an excuse such as 'u look too much like my sister. ') 2) there's no massage. 3) they generally pop you once and leave, regardless of time. They rarely give 2 pops.

I generally offer to pay 6k right away and tell them to send the hottest girl. I usually give an age and weight to narrow the range of girls they can send. Also, I usually reject the first one unless she is very hot. If you find a girl you like, you can ask her for her personal number and promise to not tell her manager and call her directly in the future. If the girl is very comfortable, ask her for the numbers to her managers. Managers typically change their numbers every 2 months, so the more you have, the less chance you will be left without a connection. I leave my email too, so they can email me of phone changes when I am not in tpe.

For outcalls, I spend on average 6k for girls 20-24 years old, probably 8. 5 overall looks. (setting 5. 0 as average.) At shining star and KTV, I end up spending 20k for the same quality girl, and its always a hassle haggling, binge drinking etc. (I'm in my 30's so binge drinking = feel shitty all day tomorrow.)

Lastly, I realize now that some hotels cater to outcalls. Waikoloa Hotels have nice interiors, and are very discrete. You tell the counter 'xio xi' meaning 'rest' and they give you a key with a room number. It costs $800 to have the room for 2 hours, and you pay cash when you leave. They don't ask for ID. Heck, they don't even ask you your name. Free water, condoms, internet, towels, toiletries etc. I stayed at the Waikoloa (there are 5 hotels) overnight and watched the lobby. HOT girls going straight to the elevator every 3 minutes. I have yet to devise a way to approach them and get their numbers but I am trying to get the courage. Finding a way to do this would mean I could wait in the Waikoloa lobby, and discretely approach the girls I find attractive enough. (almost as good as fishbowls.) Too bad I'm chicken.

Anyone else have any avenues I am unaware of? Fishbowls (aquariums) in tpe would be great, but I have still not heard that they exist. Has anyone seen one there?

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Hey fellow ISG friends. Just finished reading the Taipei board and received a lot of helpful tips from the local members. Thanks!! I will be visiting Taipei in 2 weeks from January 14 to the 17 and hope to visit some of the KTV and spa in Taipei. If you are interested and will be in town, please shoot me a message. I have done most of my mongering in southern China but never in Taiwan. Any helpful hints will be greatly appreciated.

PD

James,

You are making fast progress and a good contribution thank you. I don't know what the problem is with the newspapers. As I read in the Taipei Times, over the last 6 or 8 months the Ministry of Interior is decriminalizing prostitution. So why would they pull the ads now? Let's see if the ads return in 2010. The 'aunties' need to reach transient foreign visitors. But the government doesn't want foreigners to see things that offend American morality.

Very much value your insights into the mechanics of the outcall industry. A few pages into this thread though, another poster suggested, they ask for 5000, you tell them the going rate is 3000, then you tell them you'll got 3500 or 4000 if they send some quality. So, maybe 6000 is too much… don't inflate prices for the rest of us. Another optimization would be to cut out the middleman and work directly with the girl. She might have friends too who are in the business or got her into it to begin with.

As far as hotels go, I thought that most if not nearly all hotels offer "rest", 2-3 hours for $800 - $1200 (cheaper in Taipei County). Maybe some do more of their business this way, they call them 'love hotels'. So they are set up for sex, then they just don't ask if its commercial or not.

I've not heard of fishbowls here, but some places have a "lineup" I think.

Maybe you could just print up a card with your (mongering) phone number or email on it, and give it to the girl and ask her to contact you. I think soon they will have cell phones that accept dual SIM cards. Though they don't just sell SIM cards OTC here like they do in HK or PRC.

Anyway, you're dead right, hot young girls are still stuck living at home, trying to make ends meet. There would be a big supply of them who can easily divert to an afternoon or evening rendezvous.

As an American though, I might not be able to use the 'you look too much like my sister' excuse! I think the "aunties" also help translate from english, and the managers will only speak chinese.

Since it will be very difficult to monger without a phone, what is the easiest way to purchase a SIM card if I am visiting Taipei for only a few days? I know I can't just walk into a 7-11 to purchase a sim card if I do not have the local ID but I remembered reading somewhere that I can purchase one with my passport at the airport. Can anyone shed some light on that?

Thanks,
PD

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]James,

As I read in the Taipei Times, over the last 6 or 8 months the Ministry of Interior is decriminalizing prostitution. .[/QUOTE]

The question is: did Ministry do it? I remember it was information that new law regulation will be ready in 6 months.

[QUOTE=Pleasure Dude]Since it will be very difficult to monger without a phone, what is the easiest way to purchase a SIM card if I am visiting Taipei for only a few days? I know I can't just walk into a 7-11 to purchase a sim card if I do not have the local ID but I remembered reading somewhere that I can purchase one with my passport at the airport. Can anyone shed some light on that?

Thanks,
PD[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=76631[/url]
[url]http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=80897[/url]

Forumosa is an old forum for expats and 20-something English teacher guys from Canada.

BTW Google maps works pretty well here. IMHO an Android phone is fast becoming an essential mongering tool.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72]The question is: did Ministry do it? I remember it was information that new law regulation will be ready in 6 months.[/QUOTE]
"Constitutional Interpretation No. 666 by the Council of Grand Justices has declared unconstitutional the first clause of Article 80 of the Social Order Maintenance Act 社會秩序維護法, under which sex workers, but not their customers, are fined. The council also declared that the clause would be voided in two years’ time." Allah be praised!

[url]http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2009/11/15/2003458501[/url]

[QUOTE=Pleasure Dude]Since it will be very difficult to monger without a phone, what is the easiest way to purchase a SIM card if I am visiting Taipei for only a few days? I know I can't just walk into a 7-11 to purchase a sim card if I do not have the local ID but I remembered reading somewhere that I can purchase one with my passport at the airport. Can anyone shed some light on that?
[/QUOTE]


Not easy to get a SIM card (temporarily) in Taiwan.

Yes, you can get one in the airport (Far Eastern, etc). 300NT or so ($12 US).
You would need (1) Passport, (2) another pictured ID (driver's license, etc.) and (3) a credit card. Kinda a hassle when you're in the airport. But it's there and opens till 9 pm.

You can get one when in TPE. But you'd most likely have to go to one of those larger branches. You'd need 2 different pictured IDs from your country (passport, driver's license, Credit card with your pic, etc). Before, you'd also need a resident's co-signature, but I don't think you'd need that now.

I've heard another way to bypass showing your ID is to buy a cell phone along with a temporary number. But of course, that's if you need a cell phone in the first place. Cheapest ones run around 1500 nt ($50 bucks US? ). And the temporary SIM number would be $300 NT up.

[QUOTE=BruceTea]Not easy to get a SIM card (temporarily) in Taiwan.

Yes, you can get one in the airport (Far Eastern, etc). 300NT or so ($12 US).
You would need (1) Passport, (2) another pictured ID (driver's license, etc.) and (3) a credit card. Kinda a hassle when you're in the airport. But it's there and opens till 9 pm.

You can get one when in TPE. But you'd most likely have to go to one of those larger branches. You'd need 2 different pictured IDs from your country (passport, driver's license, Credit card with your pic, etc). Before, you'd also need a resident's co-signature, but I don't think you'd need that now.

I've heard another way to bypass showing your ID is to buy a cell phone along with a temporary number. But of course, that's if you need a cell phone in the first place. Cheapest ones run around 1500 nt ($50 bucks US? ). And the temporary SIM number would be $300 NT up.[/QUOTE]
When I came to taiwan this time,I went to xinmending at those stands that show so many cell phones in glass cabinents. Yes, you need your passport to get the SIM card with number. Any second i.d. works. No co-signature necessary nowadays. I also got a motorola phone for 1000NT. It was used but works fine (of course no fancy features like GPS, etc.). I can recharge my card at any family mart. Just a note to those from usa, the charges are for outgoing calls only. You don't pay to recieve calls. For the medium to short term mongerer or for those that need a second phone that the significant other shouldn't know about, i would suggest this route.

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]Very much value your insights into the mechanics of the outcall industry. A few pages into this thread though, another poster suggested, they ask for 5000, you tell them the going rate is 3000, then you tell them you'll got 3500 or 4000 if they send some quality. So, maybe 6000 is too much… don't inflate prices for the rest of us.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I would be surprised if offering $6,000 would result in anything other than paying 2 for the price of 1.

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]As far as hotels go, I thought that most if not nearly all hotels offer "rest", 2-3 hours for $800 - $1200 (cheaper in Taipei County). Maybe some do more of their business this way, they call them 'love hotels'. So they are set up for sex, then they just don't ask if its commercial or not.[/QUOTE]

Other than the large, generally foreign chains, I challenge anybody to find a hotel that doesn't offer 'rest rates'.

Taipei Times for January 2 has 3 small display ads under "Service". From Missy, Emily, and Jessica & Wendy. (They probably all call the same Auntie). Usually there are about a dozen ads, but anyway some ads are back. For some reason all 3 list an address; 2 of those addresses are on Hsin Yi Rd sec 4. I'm not sure why the ads went AWOL, maybe they figure there are no travelling businessmen during xmas week.

So, all but big international chain hotels offer 'day rates' or 2-3 hour rest rates. Even if they don't market themselves as a Love Hotel. And as far as I can tell they don't require ID for a rest. And they mind their own business when you have a visitor. Anyway, are there some 'rest hotels' that you recommend, maybe near the MRT, etc?

[QUOTE=James Chang 313]Also, I noticed that Yuki and other outcalls are no longer advertising on the classified section of Taipei Times and other papers. There are onjly incall numbers now. I found that strange. Does anyone have Yuki's number? I lost it. [/QUOTE]
OK I realize, those 3 small display ads, maybe they are incall, since they list an address. Let's see what happens next week. Or maybe one of us could call and try to place an ad and see what they say... What's up with this extortion thing, do you think they shut down the ads because of that? I think if you pick the hotel and room that should make it a bit safer.

I think in this forum, we're not allowed to post email addresses, but maybe phone numbers are ok. But maybe people are shy about posting a permanent record of phone number. James it might be necessary for you to get a $20/yr paid account on this forum which can receive Private Messages. I think anyone can SEND a PM, but only paid members can RECEIVE them. James' first 2 posts IMHO have him my vote for rookie of the year, so can anyone help him out with Yuki's phone number?

I did a Google search for "Yuki's Escorts in Taiwan" and came up with the following two Taipei numbers. 2786 3457 and 2649 3837

I am not in Taipei now, so I can't verify if they are active.

Can someone please try them out and report back?

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino] James' first 2 posts IMHO have him my vote for rookie of the year, so can anyone help him out with Yuki's phone number?[/QUOTE]
Yuki number from November: 8671-2001; Aiko: 2700-0509
call, enjoy, report
-jammin

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]James,

Very much value your insights into the mechanics of the outcall industry. A few pages into this thread though, another poster suggested, they ask for 5000, you tell them the going rate is 3000, then you tell them you'll got 3500 or 4000 if they send some quality. So, maybe 6000 is too much… don't inflate prices for the rest of us. Another optimization would be to cut out the middleman and work directly with the girl. She might have friends too who are in the business or got her into it to begin with.

As far as hotels go, I thought that most if not nearly all hotels offer "rest", 2-3 hours for $800 - $1200 (cheaper in Taipei County). Maybe some do more of their business this way, they call them 'love hotels'. So they are set up for sex, then they just don't ask if its commercial or not.[/QUOTE]6K is not too much to ask for a real hottie in TP, I have had one or two and they were smoking. 5K is the going rate for Taiwan girls and 3.5K for China and other places. I have had some girls offer their number to me after one or two sessions and one of them has become my regular "paybee" fuck buddy. Good arrangement, she calls me whenever she is randy, we meet for a set price and we fuck like horny high school kids. She has even offered to introduce some of her friends to me though they have never worked out.

Many of the urban hotels in Taipei, particularly Linsen area have "short rest". The one I use offers 680 for 2 hours, in the morning its 3 hours and after 10 its 1000 for 2 hours. Not a bad deal and very nice and clean.

Happy to see some activity on the forum after a long quiet period.

[QUOTE=James Chang 313]Hi guys, I'm in Taipei now and renewing my research here. Its been a few months since the last time I was here.

High end KTV. The girls are hot, and you do get to choose, but its not cost effective. Expect to spend $700US if you want to take them home. What's worse, you can cycle through many girls and not find one you like if you are really picky, and you can end up spending $350US for the nite, and NOT take anyone back.

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Abcboy,

I completely agree, I am willing to pay for quality too. And, at KTV you so get to choose sp I have had a couple 9's there too. Its just too expensive for me to go KTV often, and there is a large sunk cost, even if you don't find one you like. Plus, it feels funny to go by myself, sometimes I don't feel like playing drinking games and getting trashed before I get the girl.

I'm looking for a better way, but I think I might have found one. Will keep you guys posted. We're resourceful enough that we can find it together.

Anyone need a wingwang for regular clubbing? (Roxy, primo, 18, spark)

I checked at 4 hotels. You guys are right, everyone offers a rest rate. Plus, no ID needed! (what happens if you trash the room?)

I had 4 more outcalls. There is no real correlation between looks and price, after you pass $4000. The reason is because while WE think its cheap at $6k, they don't have enough local customers to keep the girls busy. I tried 3 outcalls. After I offered to pay $6k, one told me that if I paid $8k, she would get me a model worth $10k. She sent me a 29 year old with only 6 looks, and fishy smelling. Another outcall sent me a 20 year old model for $6k. Granted I had to send the girl before her back, but the price didn't go up.

Allegedly, some magazine models do this very part-time for upwards of $10k. I'm going to see if I can get pictures before they send those. Maybe worth the extra money.

OK, I will get a membership ASAP.

Incalls do exist!

I walked into a porn store today. (The kind that sells 50 copied old porn dvd's for 1000 NT) Doesn't everyone get their porn online these days? When I was the only person left, the owner (30 year old taiwanese guy) asked me if I wanted to buy some 'illegal' dvd's that are uncensored. Apparently, you can't show penetration in much of Asia. I joked with him that all porn is uncensored where I come from, and I would much rather find sex.

He explained to me that I could go to KTV which is pricey. Call outcalls, which he says the china girl price is 3k, and more expensive for taiwanese girls. Or incall, which he says is exclusive and you need to be led in by someone in the know. He gave me some outcall numbers and his number and offered to show me the incall places, which are supposedly all taiwanese girls.

I'm pretty sure this means he makes a cut for bringing me in, but the pricing structure he explained means that I have been overpaying for hobbying here so far.

I'll let you guys know when i finally find an incall.

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]James' first 2 posts IMHO have him my vote for rookie of the year, so can anyone help him out with Yuki's phone number?[/QUOTE]
I've been buying the Taipei Times regularly lately. As I expected, the ads are back today. My only explanation for why they disappeared is that they like to put up window dressing for US morality on Sunday and holidays?

I'm in a LTR right now, but IMHO this forum has finally had some breakthroughs, after years of "just fly to another country" and "just go to Caesars and spend 4200 for a 35 year old".

It now seems workable to get a 9 for 20K not 30K, an 8.5 for 6K, and an 8 for 4K, based on some of the recent posts, and assuming we're all on the same rating scale.

Hi James,

Great report and I definitely agree with you guys' view on paying a bit extra for the hot looking local girls. For us guys living in the states, it is so difficult to even find a decent looking outcall girl at a decent rate. James, will you be in town next weekend? We can visit some of the clubs in Taipei.

PD

[QUOTE=James Chang 313]Abcboy,

I completely agree, I am willing to pay for quality too. And, at KTV you so get to choose sp I have had a couple 9's there too. Its just too expensive for me to go KTV often, and there is a large sunk cost, even if you don't find one you like. Plus, it feels funny to go by myself, sometimes I don't feel like playing drinking games and getting trashed before I get the girl.

I'm looking for a better way, but I think I might have found one. Will keep you guys posted. We're resourceful enough that we can find it together.

Anyone need a wingwang for regular clubbing? (Roxy, primo, 18, spark)[/QUOTE]

Will I be able to hook up with those 9 girl at 20k from outcall services such as yuki or aiko? Will be in town next weekend and definitely am interested in those model materials.

cheers,
PD


[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]I've been buying the Taipei Times regularly lately. As I expected, the ads are back today. My only explanation for why they disappeared is that they like to put up window dressing for US morality on Sunday and holidays?

I'm in a LTR right now, but IMHO this forum has finally had some breakthroughs, after years of "just fly to another country" and "just go to Caesars and spend 4200 for a 35 year old".

It now seems workable to get a 9 for 20K not 30K, an 8.5 for 6K, and an 8 for 4K, based on some of the recent posts, and assuming we're all on the same rating scale.[/QUOTE]

Hey, this post is actually for Pleasure Dude and anyone who is going to be in Taipei for the next six months. I've been reading up on this forum so far as a guest and the opportunity to introduce myself has arisen. Anyway, if James Chang or Pleasure Dude are willing to meet up for Room 18, Primo, Luxy, etc I'd be willing to come along. My friend actually has a few contacts so cover at Room 18, Deep Passion, and some other clubs can either be waived or discounted. I also know the grandson of the person who designed plush, and if I get in contact with them I'll see what I can do.

So far I've been looking at the posts regarding outcall and Yuki/Aiko for the most part and as a first timer in Taipei I was wondering what would be the best thing do for myself? I'm on a relatively limited budget. I'm willing to spend 5k max and so far I've seen some pretty good deals up to 4k + the rest hotels. James, so far you've been a great help and I was wondering if you would be able to hook it up with your adventures. Hopefully the 9s, 8. 5s, and 8s will be available to all of us, as well as the girls from that one porn shop guy. By any chance, was it the one near Taipei Main Station? Next to Shin Kong Mitsukoshi? I actually think that's the life tower now though. It's on the bottom floor and it's called ap-ch2?

Anyway, I've picked up a copy of the newspaper with the outcalls so if anyone needs updated numbers I have them with me.

[QUOTE=James Chang 313]Abcboy,

I completely agree, I am willing to pay for quality too. And, at KTV you so get to choose sp I have had a couple 9's there too. Its just too expensive for me to go KTV often, and there is a large sunk cost, even if you don't find one you like. Plus, it feels funny to go by myself, sometimes I don't feel like playing drinking games and getting trashed before I get the girl.

I'm looking for a better way, but I think I might have found one. Will keep you guys posted. We're resourceful enough that we can find it together.

Anyone need a wingwang for regular clubbing? (Roxy, primo, 18, spark)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=James Chang 313]Call outcalls, which he says the china girl price is 3k, and more expensive for taiwanese girls. Or incall, which he says is exclusive and you need to be led in by someone in the know. He gave me some outcall numbers and his number and offered to show me the incall places, which are supposedly all taiwanese girls.

I'm pretty sure this means he makes a cut for bringing me in, but the pricing structure he explained means that I have been overpaying for hobbying here so far.

I'll let you guys know when i finally find an incall.[/QUOTE]
Technically, I consider the "Asian Mens Spa" (I wouldn't use the term "bath house") to be an incall. Not sure what the exact definition is. If you scan through this long thread going back a few months or years you will find a few e.g. Caesars mentioned. I've not seen a fishbowl here. Maybe you can get a bit of a line-up at a KTV. Best line-up I saw was in Macau; they have nicer spas than here or maybe even Hong Kong in my limited experience. Actually come to think of it, I did see some line-ups in SanChong, but it was like, which of these 4 ugly old slatterns do you choose, answer, thanks but no thanks. Really its simply about wanting better quality and choice. Maybe lineups are rare because they create jealousy between the girls, or they expose everyone to the police at once. Or on second thought, maybe its just the way they peddle their merchandise. I mean, imagine if fruit vendors operated the same way... they'd start by showing you the old rotting fruit first... only grudgingly working their way up to the quality product for the discerning buyer... Anyway James I'm not sure what this incall will consist of... maybe its an apartment stocked with mainland girls... maybe its a trip to SanChong shacks... I'd be a bit surprised if there is some new format not mentioned in this thread... maybe its a rub-n-tug massage joint with a lineup and full service. I think your outcall for 4K + 800 sounds like a good situation, except it doesn't give much selection. Though over the course of several months one will have seen dozens of girls and can find some gems to repeat with n'est pas?

[QUOTE=Pleasure Dude]Will I be able to hook up with those 9 girl at 20k from outcall services such as yuki or aiko? Will be in town next weekend and definitely am interested in those model materials.

Cheers,

PD[/QUOTE]I haven't tried Yuki/Aiko yet so I'm not sure what quality they have. I'm out of Taipei until beginning of Feb but we can go clubbing then if you are free.

Outcall is about hit and miss. I have gotten ugly girls for more money and hotter girls for less money. Again, I think they try to keep their ugly girls busy so they will pawn off whatever they think you will take. This is why it is important to send a couple back.

Its hard to vouch for any one outcall service; all have sent me an ugly girl at least once. I think a better way is to recommend specific girls at an outcall service. I can recommend one I met last week, 8. 0-8. 5 for 6k if you are interested, you can message me and I will give you the info.

The only other way to progressively get better looking girls is to compare them to the manager. Example: I just had girl A yesterday, please send me another girl today better looking than her. I have found this to work, but they typically ask for more money too.

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]Technically, I consider the "Asian Mens Spa" (I wouldn't use the term "bath house") to be an incall. Not sure what the exact definition is. If you scan through this long thread going back a few months or years you will find a few e.g. Caesars mentioned. I've not seen a fishbowl here. Maybe you can get a bit of a line-up at a KTV. Best line-up I saw was in Macau[/QUOTE]Yes, I think I am looking for a fishbowl. The KTV places I go to lets you cycle through girls, but they don't give me a line-up so it takes a lot of time and haggling to get one you like. Plus, the money adds up if I have to spend that kind of money/time/drinking every time I need a girl.

I haven't tried Ceasars yet. I've been consistently reading posts, and it does seem like the quality of girl is lower, and there is no lineup either. (economics dictates that there probably is no reason for the hot girls to work there, they would make more money more easily at KTV or outcall.)

This porn guy told me this place has a lineup of more than 5 Taiwanese girls. I hope its not a scam or upsell, and I will try it out and let you guys know.

I prefer a fishbowl because it doesn't require the time of rejecting girls one by one and is the least time/money commitment of all methods.

[QUOTE=Wanpo]Hey, this post is actually for Pleasure Dude and anyone who is going to be in Taipei for the next six months. .[/QUOTE]It would be great if you could try out yuki and give some feedback! I would think all the outcalls are similar, but I do remember reading a post a while ago from one of the senior members who got really mad at yuki because she sent him one ugly chick after another for 3-4 in a row! I think it partially matters if you speak any Chinese. Most people in Asia think either 1)Caucasians can't tell asian girls apart 2)Caucasians tend to go after what asians would consider 'ugly' girls. I'm not saying this is true, but it is a preconception.

I will be in Taipei a lot from Feb-Jun and we can go clubbing then. Don't worry too much about costs, cover is pretty cheap in Taipei and you even get a couple drinks with it.

I can give you my high-end KTV contact if you want. Its interesting to experience if you haven't before (they have strip shows periodically), but its pretty expensive. Its not too expensive if you don't take a girl home (since that requires girl's fees, barfines, house fees, hotel fees . . .)

If you want a massage and a HJ from a hot chick, I thought #50 (Xiao3 Fei1)at Shining Star on LinSenBeiLu was an 8. But, its not cheap either compared to outcall. If you just want to bang a hot chick for 6k, I can recommend one. Or you can try cycling through an outcall until you get one you like. They don't charge you anything for sending girls away. AND, somehow, the next ones arrives 15-20 minutes after the previous one!

James,

Excellent advice as usual and I think I am not going to waste anytime at Shinning Star. I will be arriving in Taipei next Wednesday or Thursday night and only staying there until Sunday. Time is too short for me to play any games with the girls at shinning star. I just want to find a really hot girl that I really like and pay all the necessary cost for her companionship. Cost is not an issue if the girl is worth it. What do you guys think the cost will be to have the girl hangout with you for an entire day? Even though I am Taiwanese myself, I pretty much grew up in the states and do not know much about Taiwan. It would be nice to have someone to show me around town.

Lastly, I am still looking for a wingman for some ktv fun next weekend. If anyone is interested, please shoot me a message. I have gone to many KTVs in China but never in Taiwan. It will be an incredible experience.

Cheers,
PD


[QUOTE=James Chang 313]It would be great if you could try out yuki and give some feedback! I would think all the outcalls are similar, but I do remember reading a post a while ago from one of the senior members who got really mad at yuki because she sent him one ugly chick after another for 3-4 in a row! I think it partially matters if you speak any Chinese. Most people in Asia think either 1)Caucasians can't tell asian girls apart 2)Caucasians tend to go after what asians would consider 'ugly' girls. I'm not saying this is true, but it is a preconception.

I will be in Taipei a lot from Feb-Jun and we can go clubbing then. Don't worry too much about costs, cover is pretty cheap in Taipei and you even get a couple drinks with it.

I can give you my high-end KTV contact if you want. Its interesting to experience if you haven't before (they have strip shows periodically), but its pretty expensive. Its not too expensive if you don't take a girl home (since that requires girl's fees, barfines, house fees, hotel fees . . .)

If you want a massage and a HJ from a hot chick, I thought #50 (Xiao3 Fei1)at Shining Star on LinSenBeiLu was an 8. But, its not cheap either compared to outcall. If you just want to bang a hot chick for 6k, I can recommend one. Or you can try cycling through an outcall until you get one you like. They don't charge you anything for sending girls away. AND, somehow, the next ones arrives 15-20 minutes after the previous one![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=James Chang 313]Yes, I think I am looking for a fishbowl. The KTV places I go to lets you cycle through girls, but they don't give me a line-up so it takes a lot of time and haggling to get one you like. Plus, the money adds up if I have to spend that kind of money/time/drinking every time I need a girl. ... I prefer a fishbowl because it doesn't require the time of rejecting girls one by one and is the least time/money commitment of all methods.[/QUOTE]
I see your point. Sheer efficiency is one of the highlights of our hobby. I mean, even married men, they only get it "doggy style": an hour of begging, then she rolls over and plays dead!

I hate to say it, but if you scan through the 2500 posts in this Taipei forum, spanning back several years, you won't find many fishbowls or lineups. Its possible that this will change if, over the next few years, the MOI completes its legalization, then some cities approve red light districts, then competition forces owners to stock good wares and display them all at once.

In the mean time, I've seen okay lineups in San Francisco, but the best I've seen were in Macau. From reading other forums here, I'm sure you could get a great selection in Rio, if you don't get mugged. And the FKK clubs in Germany too, thought most are hardly in the city centers. And of course there's always Thailand. You're right, the fishbowl is really the most efficient method; you can take as much time as you need, and the girls can't really see the customers so there's less pressure all around.

Hello, all; I am a long-time lurker but infrequent poster.

Unfortunately I do not have the funds to go mongering, so I have to live vicariously through the exploits of others. You are all my idols! However, I am lucky enough to have a few good freebies though (currently 4) so I don't miss out.

If you are looking for freebies I can share some advice on where I got mine, and also other places I have seen opportunities, although I have not followed them myself.

There are some websites, namely AFF which has yielded some good results for me. However around 95% of the profiles on there are fake, used to attract guys to buy the memberships. Of the remaining genuine profiles, the girls get bombarded with emails from horny guys, so if you do send contact emails you need to make them genuine and interesting. I had a 3 month membership and got some good contacts, but have canceled now.

You can also post on other websites in TW like tealit and the contact site affiliated with forumosa where many girls look for BFs and LE, although many relationships start from there. There is also a free dating website called plentyoffish, although these sites are for dating and not necessarily sex hookups.

Then there is CL. There are contacts sections there, and also an erotic services section. There are some ads in the erotic services section that obviously use fake pics, but one or two that seem to be more genuine. One girl called Lava and another called Kiki in particular, although I have not tried them. Recently one ad said they represented models who wanted extra income, but I have never contacted them so do not know if this is another scam or not.

There is also an escort listing website (I forget the name) which lists one or two escorts in TW.

Sometimes when walking along Linsen North road I get approached by touts asking if I want a girl, but never followed that up.

Anyway, I hope this helps if you want to find something long term without spending too much money. My freebies are very willing and sexually charged and love what we do, so perhaps the experience is better than many WGs (not that I know!). I am happy to share more info if others are interested.

Wanpo,

Are you currently in Taipei and will you be interested in going to a KTV next weekend?

PD

[QUOTE=Wanpo]Hey, this post is actually for Pleasure Dude and anyone who is going to be in Taipei for the next six months. I've been reading up on this forum so far as a guest and the opportunity to introduce myself has arisen. Anyway, if James Chang or Pleasure Dude are willing to meet up for Room 18, Primo, Luxy, etc I'd be willing to come along. My friend actually has a few contacts so cover at Room 18, Deep Passion, and some other clubs can either be waived or discounted. I also know the grandson of the person who designed plush, and if I get in contact with them I'll see what I can do.

So far I've been looking at the posts regarding outcall and Yuki/Aiko for the most part and as a first timer in Taipei I was wondering what would be the best thing do for myself? I'm on a relatively limited budget. I'm willing to spend 5k max and so far I've seen some pretty good deals up to 4k + the rest hotels. James, so far you've been a great help and I was wondering if you would be able to hook it up with your adventures. Hopefully the 9s, 8. 5s, and 8s will be available to all of us, as well as the girls from that one porn shop guy. By any chance, was it the one near Taipei Main Station? Next to Shin Kong Mitsukoshi? I actually think that's the life tower now though. It's on the bottom floor and it's called ap-ch2?

Anyway, I've picked up a copy of the newspaper with the outcalls so if anyone needs updated numbers I have them with me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr X 69]
My freebies are very willing and sexually charged and love what we do, so perhaps the experience is better than many WGs (not that I know!). I am happy to share more info if others are interested.[/QUOTE]

IMOP freebies are the best, as long as you know they are not also sleeping with every Tom, Dick and Harry (pun intended). I have two and I know they are faithful to me, we have great sex and actually have quite a good relationship outside the bedroom.

I have limited funds too and since SC has become a desert, I have to limit my outings to once or twice a week. But price doesnt always limit quality. The last three girls I had were from China and relatively cheap (3500NT), young, beautiful and oh so GFE.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I have limited funds too and since SC has become a desert, I have to limit my outings to once or twice a week. But price doesnt always limit quality. The last three girls I had were from China and relatively cheap (3500NT), young, beautiful and oh so GFE.[/QUOTE]
Where are you finding the PRC, relatively cheap (3500NT), young, beautiful and oh so GFE? Outcall?

[QUOTE=Mr X 69]Hello, all; I am a long-time lurker but infrequent poster.

Unfortunately I do not have the funds to go mongering, so I have to live vicariously through the exploits of others. You are all my idols! However, I am lucky enough to have a few good freebies though (currently 4) so I don't miss out.[/QUOTE]Hi Mr X 69,

I agree, everywhere in the world, going thru ads is mostly going to be scams or bait/switch. Too bad there aren't any review sites for Taiwan mongering, because this helps us hobbyists cut through most of the scams in the US.

I actually started mongering to improve my social skills, as I was pretty shy around women before. Its made leaps and bounds in my personality. Lately, I have tried most of the high end clubs, Luxy, Spark, Room 18 but its a little loud in there to pick up on girls. Roxy 99 was better, but I'm not sure if its because I went on NYE. What places do you think are best for picking up one night stands?

I'd like to check it out to see the top quality you guys talking about.

PM me.

Thanks

[QUOTE=E Z Rhino]Where are you finding the PRC, relatively cheap (3500NT), young, beautiful and oh so GFE? Outcall?[/QUOTE]

Many long time brothers know I have used the same mamasan for almost 2 years now. Good thing with that is that there is a certain level of trust and also she knows what i like. Not saying she has always giving me the best but the last three i have seen were all knockouts (at least for me, cant speak for all the brothers).

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Many long time brothers know I have used the same mamasan for almost 2 years now. Good thing with that is that there is a certain level of trust and also she knows what i like. Not saying she has always giving me the best but the last three i have seen were all knockouts (at least for me, cant speak for all the brothers).[/QUOTE]Wow! thats very consistent. The 2 mamasan I use sometimes give good ones and sometimes not-so-good ones. Pleasure Dude is in TPE this weekend and will try the 2 I use and hope he can get a couple knockouts there as well.

I'll be back in TPE next week and would like to try another mamasan. Can we possibly exchange numbers for mamasans? Mine have sent me a couple 'not great' ones, but I do know the names of a couple hot ones.

Also, I will try out the alleged fishbowl this time in TPE and keep you guys posted on whether they really do exist.

JC

[QUOTE=James Chang 313]
Also, I will try out the alleged fishbowl this time in TPE and keep you guys posted on whether they really do exist.
[/QUOTE]
I searched this thread (drop down 'Search this thread' menu above on the right) for "fishbowl" and only find 4 references to this word, mostly us talking about it. Anyway I don't mean to be a buzz kill. I hope you find one and can report back to us about it.

Its also possible to search all a user's posts. I read back dozens of Ragnarok's postings, I guess I didn't go back far enough to understand he has been using auntie outcalls. I assume he goes direct to the aunties now, as you advise.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=James Chang 313]I actually started mongering to improve my social skills, as I was pretty shy around women before. Its made leaps and bounds in my personality. Lately, I have tried most of the high end clubs, Luxy, Spark, Room 18 but its a little loud in there to pick up on girls. Roxy 99 was better, but I'm not sure if its because I went on NYE. What places do you think are best for picking up one night stands?[/QUOTE]Hi James

Actually, I am still shy around women, I don't like nightclubs and have never really done the ONS things. I met most of my freebies through the net. I did talk to a guy who was very good at getting girls, and he said Carnegies and Brass Monkey on ladies night were the places to go. Bear in mind though that this may be an older age group than what you are after, and also that these places are mostly for foreigners looking for local girls and vice-versa. From your name I guess you may be Taiwanese (apologies if I am mistaken), so not sure if these places will be the best for you. He did give one sage piece of advice though; namely that the girls don't like to think of themselves as sluts, even the ones that are. He said he goes without expectations, and gets phone numbers. Then meets them a few days later for coffee and takes it from there. So you may get a ONS but it may take a few days to get there.

Hope this helps

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]IMOP freebies are the best, as long as you know they are not also sleeping with every Tom, Dick and Harry (pun intended). I have two and I know they are faithful to me, we have great sex and actually have quite a good relationship outside the bedroom.

I have limited funds too and since SC has become a desert, I have to limit my outings to once or twice a week. But price doesnt always limit quality. The last three girls I had were from China and relatively cheap (3500NT), young, beautiful and oh so GFE.[/QUOTE]Thanks Rag, you are totally right. If they think they are the only one (perhaps outside your "regular" relationship) they seem happy, but if they know or suspect there are others then they can get very angry. I also enjoy building a relationship with them, not just as sexbuddies.

Unfortunately, my budget would not even stretch to an outing once or twice a month, let alone a week as you enjoy. So I shall have to content myself with reading of you exploits jealously instead.

Jaiyo!

After checking out the night life in Taipei after a while, I reckon there is a fair bit of entertainment that can be done in Taipei.

The biggest obstacles I reckon are:

A) Language. Chinese is a must

B) Connections. You must know the folks in the KTVs to bring you in or someone who can do the introductions. Its weird but it does have its upsides.

From past experience and sharing with all forumers, most of the KTVs and the so-called 'massage parlors' offer extras. There seems to be a standard rule of thumb though

Girls can be taken out from either KTV or the massage ie Starlight

Price Range: NTD 1400 to NTD 3600. Min hrs range from 1 to 4 hrs to all nighters.

Thats just the price to the shop and a commission to the ladies.

Then for anything extras, the ladies' fee will range from NTD 3000 to NTD 10, 000

Obviously, prices scale up and down depending on where you go and the quality of ladies. Rule of thumb. Younger women tend to be more expensive.

Thats just the outcall services that I have invested in understanding how it works.

These days, I tend to just spend 2 hours in a KTV room with an hot naked girl. Downing as much beers as I can for NTD 4, 000. Which is not a bad deal I reckon for Twn. OR if I am up for something else then 90 mins in a KTV room again downing a lot of beers with an acceptable lady for a BJ/HK for NTD 3,000.

That being said, I haven't been to the upscale places thats been mentioned here a couple of times. Keep hitting challenge no. 2

Taipei aint dead. Its just secluded from prying eyes. But it is very much alive.

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Arrived in Taipei yesterday and tried two different local outcall services recommended by two local members. Was not able to get a group to go to KTV on this trip but will do more research for next time. Yesterday I had to turn away my first outcall girl because she was having some kind of rash on her body from sea food. I didn't buy that so I turned her away. The 2nd girl I got was from Korea and she was decent for 6000NT. Today, I requested a girl from the 2nd outcall service and got a pretty nice girl. Very GF and will probably try her again before heading back to the U.S.

While having a phone conversation with the 2nd mommy today, she told me about some kind of uniform/strip club in Taipei. You would need to know someone like her to bring you in of course. Once in, you will be shown a line up of girls and I was told the place would have around one to two hundred girls each night. Once you pick one to your liking, you will pay 2000NT for her to strip naked and sit and talk with you for an hour. You can touch her but anything extra will need to be negotiated. Just like some other places, some girls are willing to offer more. Anything is possible there. Unfortunately I have some prior enagegement for tonight so will ask the local member to research further.

PD

[QUOTE=Pleasure Dude]Arrived in Taipei yesterday and tried two different local outcall services recommended by two local members. Was not able to get a group to go to KTV on this trip but will do more research for next time. Yesterday I had to turn away my first outcall girl because she was having some kind of rash on her body from sea food. I didn't buy that so I turned her away. The 2nd girl I got was from Korea and she was decent for 6000NT. Today, I requested a girl from the 2nd outcall service and got a pretty nice girl. Very GF and will probably try her again before heading back to the U.S.

While having a phone conversation with the 2nd mommy today, she told me about some kind of uniform/strip club in Taipei. You would need to know someone like her to bring you in of course. Once in, you will be shown a line up of girls and I was told the place would have around one to two hundred girls each night. Once you pick one to your liking, you will pay 2000NT for her to strip naked and sit and talk with you for an hour. You can touch her but anything extra will need to be negotiated. Just like some other places, some girls are willing to offer more. Anything is possible there. Unfortunately I have some prior enagegement for tonight so will ask the local member to research further.

PD[/QUOTE]

hey there PD,

sorry I could not meet up with you on this trip, maybe next time you are in town. I have had a great time with some China girls here in Taiwan but i hesitated to recommend them to you since you seem to want some local Taiwan food. Did my contacts work out ok with you? I have never had a Korean girl here in TP, had a Japanese porn star once(not all that great, more mind fun than actual fun) and my continual requests for Indo girls go unanswered.

But contact me next time you are in town and lets see if we can get some brothers together for some uniform shop fun.

[QUOTE=Pleasure Dude]While having a phone conversation with the 2nd mommy today, she told me about some kind of uniform/strip club in Taipei. You would need to know someone like her to bring you in of course. Once in, you will be shown a line up of girls and I was told the place would have around one to two hundred girls each night. Once you pick one to your liking, you will pay 2000NT for her to strip naked and sit and talk with you for an hour. You can touch her but anything extra will need to be negotiated. Just like some other places, some girls are willing to offer more. Anything is possible there. Unfortunately I have some prior enagegement for tonight so will ask the local member to research further.

PD[/QUOTE]Hey guys,

PD, glad you had a good time in TPE this trip. I am on my way there next weekend and will continue my research from early Jan. The goal: try 2-3 more outcalls, try to find the incall fishbowl, and also try a uniform shop. I had always thought KTV and uniform shops were the same. It starting to seem like they are different. Does anyone know any uniform shops in TPE and how I can get in? I'd like to check one out. What are uniform shops called in Chinese?

Also, if anyone has any other outcalls or mamasan they recommend, I am trying to rank the services of 6 and try to decide who has the best girls and pricing. If you PM me their contact info, I will include them in my survey as well!

I'll keep you guys updated if I find anything new this trip!

Hey buddy,

Just got back home and still have the jet lag. Your contact worked out great and will definitely try her again in the future. My time was so short in Taipei so I was not able to try more girls. I will try to stay longer next time in Taipei and see if I can gather local brothers together for some KTV action like what we do in China.

cheers
PD

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]hey there PD,

sorry I could not meet up with you on this trip, maybe next time you are in town. I have had a great time with some China girls here in Taiwan but i hesitated to recommend them to you since you seem to want some local Taiwan food. Did my contacts work out ok with you? I have never had a Korean girl here in TP, had a Japanese porn star once(not all that great, more mind fun than actual fun) and my continual requests for Indo girls go unanswered.

But contact me next time you are in town and lets see if we can get some brothers together for some uniform shop fun.[/QUOTE]

Hi James,

Uniform shops are called 制服店 in Chinese. From the way it was described to me, it is very similar to a strip club here in the U.S. where a girl would come into your private chamber and strip dance in front of you while the music is playing. The only difference here is the girl will sit and talk with you naked and touching is allowed during the one hour session. You can also negotiate extras such as fs at additional cost and I heard the rate is around 6000NT. I think there is great potential here to get a hottie since there is a large selection of girls where you can pick from. Please investigate further during your next trip to Taiwan.

PD


[QUOTE=James Chang 313]Hey guys,

PD, glad you had a good time in TPE this trip. I am on my way there next weekend and will continue my research from early Jan. The goal: try 2-3 more outcalls, try to find the incall fishbowl, and also try a uniform shop. I had always thought KTV and uniform shops were the same. It starting to seem like they are different. Does anyone know any uniform shops in TPE and how I can get in? I'd like to check one out. What are uniform shops called in Chinese?

Also, if anyone has any other outcalls or mamasan they recommend, I am trying to rank the services of 6 and try to decide who has the best girls and pricing. If you PM me their contact info, I will include them in my survey as well!

I'll keep you guys updated if I find anything new this trip![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pleasure Dude]Hey buddy,

Just got back home and still have the jet lag. Your contact worked out great and will definitely try her again in the future. My time was so short in Taipei so I was not able to try more girls. I will try to stay longer next time in Taipei and see if I can gather local brothers together for some KTV action like what we do in China.

cheers
PD[/QUOTE]

Great to hear. She is usually cautious with first time clients, only sending the B girls in case you are LE, but I told her not to hold back. She has sent me some real winners recently and she knows what i like.

Next time you are in town definately lets try and get together and do a KTV. Like I mentioned before, I have never done KTV in Taiwan. Time to break my cherry....

If it's possible, do you think anyone could give me a list of trusted mamasans through PM? I really don't want to end up wasting the limited budget I have.

The more I know, the more I can pass on. I'm here for six months (five now) so I have plenty of time.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Wanpo]If it's possible, do you think anyone could give me a list of trusted mamasans through PM? I really don't want to end up wasting the limited budget I have.

The more I know, the more I can pass on. I'm here for six months (five now) so I have plenty of time.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Just sent you one with the number of the mama that I passed on to Pleasure Dude. Be sure to mention my name and be specific with what you want and dont be afraid to turn down the girl if she doesnt match what you expected.

Thanks for the number, I'll try to visit within the week. We'll see what the schedule permits. anyone have any hotels they would recommend for rest rates? Or just a comfortable place they had? I live near the sherwood but that place is pretty expensive. i just had lunch there with google and it seems to me as if it's 4-5 stars. Looking for a budget option.

Thanks in advance for suggestions

[QUOTE=Wanpo]Thanks for the number, I'll try to visit within the week. We'll see what the schedule permits. anyone have any hotels they would recommend for rest rates? Or just a comfortable place they had? I live near the sherwood but that place is pretty expensive. i just had lunch there with google and it seems to me as if it's 4-5 stars. Looking for a budget option.

Thanks in advance for suggestions[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,

I'm new to this forum, so any help will be greatly appreciated.

I'm in Taipei for the next week and was hoping one of the other memebers could provide me with some tried and tested mamasan numbers or perhaps a contact they have?

Preference would be for a younger Taiwanese girl 20-25.

I've had a look at the Taipei Times and tried Yuki, however after the 3rd girl that I had to turn away decided to give up.

Wanpo, I've had a look at some hotels, apparently Wakiola and Deja Vu are meant to be pretty good and rest rates range start from 600-800.

Hope that helps!

[QUOTE=Wottt]Hi Guys,

I'm new to this forum, so any help will be greatly appreciated.

I'm in Taipei for the next week and was hoping one of the other memebers could provide me with some tried and tested mamasan numbers or perhaps a contact they have?

Preference would be for a younger Taiwanese girl 20-25.

I've had a look at the Taipei Times and tried Yuki, however after the 3rd girl that I had to turn away decided to give up.

Wanpo, I've had a look at some hotels, apparently Wakiola and Deja Vu are meant to be pretty good and rest rates range start from 600-800.

Hope that helps![/QUOTE]Wott

Many senior member do not want to post detail info due to LE fears. There is much info on the forum, so RTFF. I also tried to send you a PM, but could not since you are not a true blue paying member. So given your choices, choose now.

Bnlee

Do you know where those hotels are near?

If you are a white guy and have just hooked up with a Taiwan-based Filipina on DIA in the last seven days, drop me a PM. That is all I care to share on the boards, so pls no questions on the public boards, only PM, thks.

Two days ago I heard from a fairly reputable source that LE is planning to spend more time trolling the Internet for mongering-related activities. I have no idea if this will be limited to Chinese-language sites or if it will spill over here but all may want to exercise a bit of caution when meeting up with people you don't know.

[QUOTE=Exile]Two days ago I heard from a fairly reputable source that LE is planning to spend more time trolling the Internet for mongering-related activities. I have no idea if this will be limited to Chinese-language sites or if it will spill over here but all may want to exercise a bit of caution when meeting up with people you don't know.[/QUOTE]

I know some people will complain about us veterans being too strict, however, it's for our and really your own protection. Do you think LE don't read this site and gather intel, and they are not ready to bust you when they have the chance?

Play with fire if you want, but I prefer to be safe rather than sorry.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]I know some people will complain about us veterans being too strict, however, it's for our and really your own protection. Do you think LE don't read this site and gather intel, and they are not ready to bust you when they have the chance?

Play with fire if you want, but I prefer to be safe rather than sorry.[/QUOTE]

I have no idea if they read this site and was just passing on what I heard. However, being that it is the most well-known and best source of info outisde of the Chinese discussion boards, I see no reason why they wouldn't. That being said, the places talked about here are fairly well-known to the general public and nobody here is making any money off the industry so this wouldn't be fruitful for the Internet police. Con men and gangsters would probably find more targets in such places than LE.

No disrespect to any of the senior Taiwan board members but LE knows well where the foreigners monger. ISG only scratches the top of underground sites that Asian well know, particular where japanese and locals normally hang. And that's where the real money is.....

Continue to enjoy and don't worry too much ;)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]No disrespect to any of the senior Taiwan board members but LE knows well where the foreigners monger. ISG only scratches the top of underground sites that Asian well know, particular where japanese and locals normally hang. And that's where the real money is.....

Continue to enjoy and don't worry too much ;)[/QUOTE]

I agree with Traveler, but exercise the proper caution with either "one time wonder" brothers or any tauts that solicit you without you knowing them, just common sense really.

I have only met 3 or 4 brothers in person and these were senior members, like yourself, with thousands of post and PM ability, so that narrows the field quite a bit. While it still technically not illegal to be charged here if caught with a WG, its still wise to exercise caution.

Play hard but play safe. I think its wise if senior brothers PM any information in the future and pass on legit and safe mamas or other info.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I agree with Traveler, but exercise the proper caution with either "one time wonder" brothers or any tauts that solicit you without you knowing them, just common sense really.
[/QUOTE]

.....which was the warning was about. I believe that all but three or four people in Taiwan know about SanChong, LinSen, Ceasar's and LongShan. As Rag said, it's not like you are committing a crime, even if you are caught with a working girl. Of course, it's (nearly?) impossible to monger in Taiwan without being involved in organized crime, so some caution should always be taken. Being that Taiwan is one of the richest freebie markets you could hope for, it isn't worth the risk most of the time, unless that really is your thing.

Hi everyone,

Just got back from a very long business trip (China and the Middle East), could not access the forum there so have been unable to post.

But I just have to say, 500RMB to have 2 hours of full body to body wash, BBBJTC, body massage, another BBBJ, AR, finally FS PLUS GFE with a 9 girl is seriously what we need over here on the other side of the strait.

Back to Taipei and back to reality, last time I talked about Caesars, I'll focus on shinning star and my other adventures this time.

With Shinning star you basically need some serious skills to take out the girls, sadly skills which I do not have. Do not ask the managers up front about anything FS related, it would not work. You need to discuss and persuade the girls in private, having said that, I have so far been unsuccessful (ouch!). I have been there five times with 3 different girls and have not managed to take any of them out (double ouch!), leaving with only their numbers. But I will keep trying since Caesars is getting boring and KTV is a no, since I do not have anyone else to go with.

Moving on, met this person who use to be a manager at Taoyuan KTVs and he told me do not bother going to the KTVs in Taoyuan as the ones in Taipei are much better. Girls are better looking, and the price is about the same. He gave me some names of KTVs in Taipei which provide cheap and good service such as girls get completely naked and give lap dances every half an hour. He says if you go in a group of 4 the price will work out to be around 3 4k per person. Ofcourse, having said that, I do not have anyone to go with!

So I have been checking out other massage establishments around the "Big Taipei Area". So far I have been going to this particular one called xiao niang niang (little women women?). It is 1800TWD for a 2 hour massage. The girls there are between 7 8 (looks), age around 23 29. Not bad right? I've been there 6 times with 3 different girls and yes just like shinning star I have failed to take any of them out.

So to conclude, I have no skill, but then again I will keep working at it because there really is no other option out there. Now I wish I can go across the strait everyday, but then don't we all.

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[QUOTE=Hiro Nakamura]So to conclude, I have no skill, but then again I will keep working at it because there really is no other option out there. Now I wish I can go across the strait everyday, but then don't we all.[/QUOTE]
If we were naturals, we wouldn't be here. We all need to work at it but like any skill it can be developed. Mongering has been a key component of my personal growth. At the very least, just knowing that you can, or having recently, scored some p4p, makes you less desperate. Now, there are a lot of books about how to pick up girls, and lots of them are bullshit or at least not useful for me, but most of them would agree that women can detect a desperate guy from 250 meters and will run the opposite direction. I know a lot of guys who are really stuck in their interpersonal or sex lives, and I often encourage them to just go out there and buy some so they can prime the pump. Though, the USA is a particularly screwed up place when it comes to um, screwing. As the Australians like to say "I'm bloody glad we got the convicts and they got the Puritans." Anyway I wanted to point out that there are some websites with lots of PUA (Pick Up Artist) books shared over p2p torrents. If its within the rules I'll find the names of those sites. I still think a lot of the material is bad, but some of it does actually work. Gambate!

last night, i originally wanted to take another attempt at shinning star (i will succeed one of these days!), but decided to try yuki.

bought taipei times (15twd) at a 7-11, went to a motel close by the office. the rest rate is 450 twd for 2 hours. they only asked me for my id because i wanted to use my credit card.

i actually called “helen” (2784-6622) first, asked for a massage and asked if they do specials, she said no specials, just a therapeutic massage; however i think that’s because i was using mandarin.

so then i called yuki (8671-2001).
[just for everyone’s info the number for aiko is (2700-0509)]

this time i spoke in english and she immediately asked if i wanted full service or a massage (ofcourse full service!). she quoted 5000twd at first, then i said, but the going rate is 3000, no? she then agreed to 3000.

then i started to negotiate with her by saying if she sends better quality girls i may offer to pay 3500twd. she promised she would send better quality girls for 3500. 20 minutes later, knock on the door, a taiwanese girl walks in; a 7 in my opinion but as soon as she started to talk i thought ‘no’ to myself as her teeth were yellowish and her breathe was a mix of cigarettes and beer (eww~~).

sent her away, felt kind of bad since i rarely send girls away, called yuki again and asked her to send a better girl who doesn’t smoke. she said ok and another 20 minutes later in walks a 6.5, chinese girl (i really wanted a taiwanese girl).

her name was dou dou (bean bean). she was kind of cute and i really was not in the mood to wait another 20 minutes. she was fairly nice (pluses on the gfe).

we showered together, then bbbj, then fs (cowgirl, mish), pretty standard. in the middle of it her phone starts to beep and she says she’s sorry but her time is almost up. (i did not know the session was for 40mins only?!)

anyway overall it was an “okay” experience. overall damage was roughly 4.2k as i had to add extra time to my 2 hour rest.

my advice is, if you have time, you can keep sending back girls and negotiate with yuki until she sends a 9 girl at a decent price, but i did not have that much time.

next time, maybe i will just stay for the night and send back like 5 girls until i get the one i want (might be shot in the process but hey).

the search for a 9 taiwanese girl outside of ktv continues.

[QUOTE=Hiro Nakamura]Hi everyone,

With Shinning star you basically need some serious skills to take out the girls, sadly skills which I do not have. Do not ask the managers up front about anything FS related, it would not work. You need to discuss and persuade the girls in private, having said that, I have so far been unsuccessful (ouch!). I have been there five times with 3 different girls and have not managed to take any of them out (double ouch!), leaving with only their numbers. But I will keep trying since Caesars is getting boring and KTV is a no, since I do not have anyone else to go with.

So to conclude, I have no skill, but then again I will keep working at it because there really is no other option out there. Now I wish I can go across the strait everyday, but then don't we all.

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With shining star girls here is what you need to do, in this order:

1) Find a girl you like to do FS with and do a 2-hour massage. Chat with her honestly and friendly and funny.

2) Tell her that you really enjoyed her company and would like to take her out next time, they will say yes because minimum take out is 3 hours (I think) and it's easy money (also 200 TWD more per hour). Say you like to take her out for dinner and some fun.

3) When you're out and time is almost up tell her that you are very interested in her and would like to take her for special, and tell her to name her price.

Ok, at this point here are the possible scenarios:

1) You're a moron and she doesn't like you one bit, sorry, no luck there.
2) She likes you but will try to milk you, she will say 20K TWD or something ridiculous like that.

Don't fear: say, "HA!, the going rate is $7000 TWD for a FS", and she will submit.

Not really that hard in my opinion, but shining star girls are only average face in my opinion. I rated one 8 and the rest are 7 or less.

yeah. it is always a hit or miss with this outcall girls in taiwan. i am usually in town for only a few days so i do not have the time to look for freebies. when you call the outcall service, you are pretty much stuck with whomever is available at that time and also at that price range. it also depends on your luck. i think the best way to find your 9 in a short time is to arrange something with a mamason ahead of time. trust me, it will be very difficult to find a 9 or 10 wg at just 4000 or 5000nt. you get what you pay for here. when you try to arrange something earlier, tell the mamason exactly what you want (height, bust size, skin color, smoke or not, etc..) for example, you can request a model that has either appeared in a magazine or on tv before. once you narrow down your choices, you will probably have to go along with that girl's schedule in order to hook up. at the end, if you don't like what you see, you can still turn her away. good luck digging and report back.

cheers,
pd

[quote=hiro nakamura]last night, i originally wanted to take another attempt at shinning star (i will succeed one of these days!), but decided to try yuki.

bought taipei times (15twd) at a 7-11, went to a motel close by the office. the rest rate is 450 twd for 2 hours. they only asked me for my id because i wanted to use my credit card.

i actually called “helen” (2784-6622) first, asked for a massage and asked if they do specials, she said no specials, just a therapeutic massage; however i think that’s because i was using mandarin.

so then i called yuki (8671-2001).
[just for everyone’s info the number for aiko is (2700-0509)]

this time i spoke in english and she immediately asked if i wanted full service or a massage (ofcourse full service!). she quoted 5000twd at first, then i said, but the going rate is 3000, no? she then agreed to 3000.

then i started to negotiate with her by saying if she sends better quality girls i may offer to pay 3500twd. she promised she would send better quality girls for 3500. 20 minutes later, knock on the door, a taiwanese girl walks in; a 7 in my opinion but as soon as she started to talk i thought ‘no’ to myself as her teeth were yellowish and her breathe was a mix of cigarettes and beer (eww~~).

sent her away, felt kind of bad since i rarely send girls away, called yuki again and asked her to send a better girl who doesn’t smoke. she said ok and another 20 minutes later in walks a 6.5, chinese girl (i really wanted a taiwanese girl).

her name was dou dou (bean bean). she was kind of cute and i really was not in the mood to wait another 20 minutes. she was fairly nice (pluses on the gfe).

we showered together, then bbbj, then fs (cowgirl, mish), pretty standard. in the middle of it her phone starts to beep and she says she’s sorry but her time is almost up. (i did not know the session was for 40mins only?!)

anyway overall it was an “okay” experience. overall damage was roughly 4.2k as i had to add extra time to my 2 hour rest.

my advice is, if you have time, you can keep sending back girls and negotiate with yuki until she sends a 9 girl at a decent price, but i did not have that much time.

next time, maybe i will just stay for the night and send back like 5 girls until i get the one i want (might be shot in the process but hey).

the search for a 9 taiwanese girl outside of ktv continues.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Pleasure Dude]Trust me, it will be very difficult to find a 9 or 10 wg at just 4000 or 5000NT. You get what you pay for here.

cheers,
PD[/QUOTE]

I guess I should consider myself lucky then, my recent run of girls from my mamasan have all been 9s (at worst 8) for me and at the bargin price of 3500. Them being China girls did nothing to dull my libido and I have Taiwanese freebies already.

My advice is as always. Try and stick with one mama that has been good with you so you can build up trust and credit. She will be much more willing to try and make a long term client happy than just getting you out of the way before her next one time client calls up making the same " I want a supermodel but I wont pay" request.

[QUOTE=Hiro Nakamura]Last night, I originally wanted to take another attempt at shinning star (I will succeed one of these days!), but decided to try Yuki...

The search for a 9 Taiwanese girl outside of KTV continues.[/QUOTE]
Hiro, I searched back 100 posts and found this 'I have talked to a lot of the girls and found out that this is how it works: Most of the girls are students or working jobs, but live with parents. Because of this, 2pm – 8pm is the best time to call an outcall. The way the system in TPE works is that the girls are all independents. The usually work for 1-3 managers who will call them and tell them where the client is. These managers are typically NOT the people to deal with the clients. Those are usually Miss Ma, Yuki types (we'll call them 'Aunts') who coordinate between customers and the managers. The price can range from 3k-10k depending MORE on your negotiating ability than the quality of the girl. Its much better to try to get the phone of the managers directly because they are the people who have actually seen the girls, so you can explain what you want to them. I'm sure some of you have realized that using outcalls in TPE seems like they send random girls to you. This is because most of the 'aunts' have never seen any of the girls. In TPE, the girls keep half the money, the managers/aunts keep half. (raw deal.) A good way to test to see if you deal with a manager or aunt, is to ask your girl the name of her contact person. If its not the same name as the person you call, then you are not dealing with someone who sees the girls, and there is more chance you will not get what you want. (more middlemen= higher costs too.)'

By talking to people, and finding the details, maybe we can improve our odds. I am thinking that if you go outside the time frame JC describes above, there are simply fewer quality girls available. I also agree with Ragnaroks advice to cultivate a relationship with a direct manager. And PD's idea of scheduling ahead of time.

One detail I do not understand is the big picture on prostitution in Taiwan. Is the KMT serious about decriminalizing the oldest profession, and if so what will change and who will benefit? They have more or less legalized both gambling and prostitution on a national level, but it seems that on a local level, they didnt get the memo yet. To compete for convention and tourist dollars, esp. in a poor economy, Taiwan has to serve up more pussy to the West in order to stay competitive. But at the same time they hide the good mongering from us in order to suck up to Western morality. Will there really be regulated red light districts here in a couple years, and if so how is the money we spend ultimately split up? At least I can say, follow the money.

Great advice below about sticking to one mama but it is very difficult for us guys that only come here every 3 months or so for only a few days at a time. By the time I return to Taiwan next trip, the mamason probably will not remember me anymore. As for paying extra for 9s, I was talking about local Taiwanese girls, not girls from China. I already had my share of 8s and 9s during my trip to southern China a few days earlier at even lower price than 3500NT during my last trip. I really need to consider moving back to Taiwan and try to hook up with the local hotties. If I get bored with the local flavor there, southern china is just one hour flight away. Anything is better than living in the states where all the hotties are extremely stuck up and superficial beyond belief.

PD

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I guess I should consider myself lucky then, my recent run of girls from my mamasan have all been 9s (at worst 8) for me and at the bargin price of 3500. Them being China girls did nothing to dull my libido and I have Taiwanese freebies already.

My advice is as always. Try and stick with one mama that has been good with you so you can build up trust and credit. She will be much more willing to try and make a long term client happy than just getting you out of the way before her next one time client calls up making the same " I want a supermodel but I wont pay" request.[/QUOTE]

One detail I do not understand is the big picture on prostitution in Taiwan. Is the KMT serious about decriminalizing the oldest profession, and if so what will change and who will benefit? They have more or less legalized both gambling and prostitution on a national level, but it seems that on a local level, they didnt get the memo yet. To compete for convention and tourist dollars, esp. in a poor economy, Taiwan has to serve up more pussy to the West in order to stay competitive. But at the same time they hide the good mongering from us in order to suck up to Western morality. Will there really be regulated red light districts here in a couple years, and if so how is the money we spend ultimately split up? At least I can say, follow the money.[/QUOTE]KMT, on the whole, is reluctant to decriminalize prostitution not for sucking up to Western morality or to hide mongering from us, the feminist lobbies are far more powerful than has been acknowledged in Taiwanese politics and they are against the bill.

In any case, Taiwanese pussies aren't the best in the region, to say the least, and there is little chance that this industry can compete against its rivals in Macau, Thailand, China and Japan.

Going to Taipei in a few weeks for business. I have never been there before and would like to enjoy a good time. I am more than willing to pay for a great outcall. I don? T have time to go to a KTV or go hunting in general. I need an outcall to my hotel. From reading through this forum, it seems there are a few hit-or-miss mama services. I would much rather skip through the uglies and pay for the hotties. I don? T speak Chinese, so keep that in mind.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I guess I should consider myself lucky then, my recent run of girls from my mamasan have all been 9s (at worst 8) for me and at the bargin price of 3500. Them being China girls did nothing to dull my libido and I have Taiwanese freebies already.[/QUOTE]Aloha,

I will be in Taipei for business in a few weeks and would appreciate any advice on finding a good time. Price is not an issue, I will pay for quality. I do not speak Chinese and from reading these forums, it may be a problem. Any advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Hawaii

[QUOTE=Hawaii Kane]Aloha,

I will be in Taipei for business in a few weeks and would appreciate any advice on finding a good time. Price is not an issue, I will pay for quality. I do not speak Chinese and from reading these forums, it may be a problem. Any advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Hawaii[/QUOTE]

Hi there HK,

I am not the person to ask for fun if you do not speak Chinese, all I can say is check Carnagies or Brass Monkey, etc. All the place or mamas I know only speak chinese and will be hesitant to deal with foreigners (sorry).

There are numerous saunas ( Ceasars at Asiaworld is a sure bet and i know of 3 others, 2 at Linshen and 1 near the Sogo at Zhongxiao) where having a good time is easy and straightforward. Apart from that you can call any of the numbers in the papers who cater to Westerners, just be sure to bargain the price and be willing to turn away the girl if you dont like what you see.

Sorry cant be of more help, hope you have some luck here.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Hawaii Kane]Aloha,

I will be in Taipei for business in a few weeks and would appreciate any advice on finding a good time. Price is not an issue, I will pay for quality. I do not speak Chinese and from reading these forums, it may be a problem. Any advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Hawaii[/QUOTE]

Tried to send you a PM but apparently you don't have PM privileges. I have HI ties as well. Get some PM privilege and I'm happy to take the convo offline.

Mahalo plenty.

Took few people from oversea to KTV early Saturday morning and had great time. We got there around 2 in the morning and the place was packed. We ended up wait for our room about 30 min and soon after the party got started. The girls are decent but no really knockout, but the price was right include HJ and all u can drink beer. The usually routine, dimming the light, the girls remove everything down to a panty, dancing grinding, touching and so on. About a hour later, bus boy brought in lotions and cups for the HJ. The bill came to 3200NT per person. 1500/hrX2 plus tip 1000 splited by 5 guys.For those that are unsure about what girls to pick, here is the simple break down, again, house rules may vary depend on the establishment.

Uniform girls: do all the routine but remove clothing
Street Clothes girls: do all the routines and remove everything but panty.
Girls with "S" on the badget: All of the above and available for take out to love motel or your choice of destination for full service. From what I was told by 4 different girls, average girls charge 6000nt for take out, remember you will still need to buy the hours from the house. Which mean when you decide to take a girl out, let's say 2 hours, you will need to pay 1500/hr to the house, so your total cost would be 1500/hrX2+6000 for the girl+cost of the love motel. (as you can see, its gets quite expensive).

Due the economy, many ktv offers 1500/hr and free beers. While the girls are not super knockout, but I did see some gems in the place.

Well, a couple of weeks ago I received a text message advertising good relaxing massage. I called, and the girl pretty much was up front about the service and the cost. I visited and turned out not so bad. Basically personal studio for half hour massage and FS for 3k.

Then last week, got another similar message but this one was on Linshen N Rd, so I was like "damn, that's where all the KTV's are, must have nicer selection". Well, I should have known better as 1. The number to call was a land line instead of a cell number. 2. The girl was elusive about what's being offered instead of being up front like the other one.

This place is on 9th Fl in buidling right south of Wego hotel, where a McD is at. Basically, charged me $3.3k for a very shitty massage that lasted 30 min. The rest of 30 min, 2 girls were just light touching me and mostly chatting. Will not do this ever again. Consider it my scholarship for the girls.

[QUOTE=WindWalker]Well, a couple of weeks ago I received a text message advertising good relaxing massage. I called, and the girl pretty much was up front about the service and the cost. I visited and turned out not so bad. Basically personal studio for half hour massage and FS for 3k.

This place is on 9th Fl in buidling right south of Wego hotel, where a McD is at. Basically, charged me $3.3k for a very shitty massage that lasted 30 min. The rest of 30 min, 2 girls were just light touching me and mostly chatting. Will not do this ever again. Consider it my scholarship for the girls.[/QUOTE]


Thank you for the report!

I've never heard of this as I delete text messages almost as quickly as I get them. Lots of potential scams with technology such as MSN, QQ, Kimo dating, cell phone random texts, and whathavenot. Cost almost nothing to put up ads in bulk everywhere...

Some reminders:
(1) Don't wire money (ie pay first or deposit to show you are not a cop).
(2) Don't provide ID number or relevant ID numbers.
(3) If she's hot, you're not getting any for less than 10,000 nt.
(4) Confirm price. Confirm what you will pay and prices in Taiwan are sometimes difficult to negotiate.

ps, 3,300 nt for two girls massaging you for 60 minutes (I know, only 30 was "actual") is kinda a ok price. But yeah, live and learn.

[QUOTE=WindWalker]
Then last week, got another similar message but this one was on Linshen N Rd, so I was like "damn, that's where all the KTV's are, must have nicer selection". Well, I should have known better as 1. The number to call was a land line instead of a cell number. 2. The girl was elusive about what's being offered instead of being up front like the other one.

This place is on 9th Fl in buidling right south of Wego hotel, where a McD is at. Basically, charged me $3.3k for a very shitty massage that lasted 30 min. The rest of 30 min, 2 girls were just light touching me and mostly chatting. Will not do this ever again. Consider it my scholarship for the girls.[/QUOTE]

Dude, you keep getting the shit end of the stick,

well you know the saying "if it sounds too good to be true, it is"

I never take any of those text seriously, never know if its a scam to blackmail you (I have been a victim of one and boy was it not something I plan on doing ever again). I always contact my provider directly, not even trusting anyone calling and claiming they are calling on her behalf (more red tape but you never know in the present climate).

I agree getting a massage from 2 girls for 3.3 K is cheap but not when you were not looking to get a massage. Hey buddy, remember to PM me when you want some fun and I will have my mama set you up.

Hi all,

New member here. Moved to Taiwan last year and have not mongered in a while. I haven't had the time to RTFF but I do have questions for the members here.

Can someone provide a general guideline of rating scale so that I may be able to see what kinda girls I may expect if I decide to TOFTT? For example, would you consider Chiling Lin a 10? What would you consider to be a 9, 8, 7 or a 6?

Appreciate your feedback on this.

Chowmaidong

There are some promising ads in there and the cost is slightly cheaper than what you pay at the KTV.

Anyone have had tried it?

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]There are some promising ads in there and the cost is slightly cheaper than what you pay at the KTV.

Anyone have had tried it?[/QUOTE]

I have tried in the past to a 0% success rate. No real bad stories - just most seem to be scammers.

The new ads look more promising than usual. Keep us informed if you try them.

[QUOTE=Exile]I have tried in the past to a 0% success rate. No real bad stories - just most seem to be scammers.

The new ads look more promising than usual. Keep us informed if you try them.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I tried one "model agency" and they show me the pictures, but require that I wire the money to their bank account first, that's when I told them thanks but no thanks SCAMMERS!

The new ones post ads for $450 USD, but it's probably bait and switch or similar scams...

damn

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Yeah, I tried one "model agency" and they show me the pictures, but require that I wire the money to their bank account first, that's when I told them thanks but no thanks SCAMMERS!

The new ones post ads for $450 USD, but it's probably bait and switch or similar scams...

damn[/QUOTE]

One masseuse, a few months back, wanted money deposited to her account before she showed up.

Another did incall only (as opposed to meeting in a hotel), something that felt funny.

I tried a few freebies but didn't get anything out of them either.

[QUOTE=Chowmaidong]Hi all,

New member here. Moved to Taiwan last year and have not mongered in a while. I haven't had the time to RTFF but I do have questions for the members here.

Can someone provide a general guideline of rating scale so that I may be able to see what kinda girls I may expect if I decide to TOFTT? For example, would you consider Chiling Lin a 10? What would you consider to be a 9, 8, 7 or a 6?

Appreciate your feedback on this.

Chowmaidong[/QUOTE]I would be interested too as to whether Chiling Lin is a 10 in the eyes of the people who has rated here before. In fact, I am curious whether a Chiling grade girl would actually be available.

Cheers all.

[QUOTE=Hsl Hsl]I would be interested too as to whether Chiling Lin is a 10 in the eyes of the people who has rated here before. In fact, I am curious whether a Chiling grade girl would actually be available.

Cheers all.[/QUOTE]

Are you kidding? The KTVs I go to I can say most girls I take out are better than Chiling Lin. Also, Chiling Lin is old and not as hot as she was like 7-8 years ago.

To answer your question, she's between 8-9 in my rating.

[QUOTE=Hsl Hsl]I would be interested too as to whether Chiling Lin is a 10 in the eyes of the people who has rated here before. In fact, I am curious whether a Chiling grade girl would actually be available.

Cheers all.[/QUOTE]

Don't give me wrong, I would't kick Chiling off my bed, but many friends and I do really think she is overrated. Her type quality or higher def. avaliable in TP, but it can be quite costly.

[QUOTE=Exile]One masseuse, a few months back, wanted money deposited to her account before she showed up.

Another did incall only (as opposed to meeting in a hotel), something that felt funny.

I tried a few freebies but didn't get anything out of them either.[/QUOTE]

Yep, note to mongers, never do anybody that is "incalls only" as usually that's a setup to rob you with her boyfriend or pimp.

A true story, one of my gullible friend (in the USA) saw this hot chick photo and decided to do her at her request (incalls only), and as he went in out comes this guy with a knife and demands his wallet and jewelry. Without hesitation my friend jumps the guy (he is blackbelt in Taekwondo), takes the knife away, beat the crap out of the pimp, and robs the pimp's wallet in reverse and left.

Hey fellow Mongers.

I am a frequent visitor to the site, but never a contributor.

I have been traveling to and around Taipei since 1994 and found Taipei to be a VERY ACTIVE place for the hobby.

Many of the paces previous mentioned;

- Cesars
- KTV
- Yuki
- Carnagies (Free-be's)
- Ziga Zaga (also, free-be's)

Etc...have all provided for me. Thanks again to all those that have contributed and provided the information.

My question to the Local Brothers out there is; Are there any massage parlors near Sherwood Hotel that do a "rub and tug"? I have tried White House on Dun Hua and found it strictly legit. There is one parlor almost directly across the street from the Sherwood and one further down Min Sheng East road (by the university) that I have yet to try.

I am American and my Mandarin is not as good as it should be.

Thanks again for all those who have written reports along the way. I will be back in Taipei in March and will report any further findings.

Cheers,

Whitemancantjump

[QUOTE=Roni44]Don't give me wrong, I would't kick Chiling off my bed, but many friends and I do really think she is overrated. Her type quality or higher def. avaliable in TP, but it can be quite costly.[/QUOTE]How costly are we talking about? I saw another brother's message below that such quality is avail at ktvs but is it also accessible via outcalls to hotels which is probably more discrete? I prefer more discrete if possible.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Taufik Taufik]What is the contact number of yuki?

I'm going to taipei on March, please recomend me good but not expensive KTV and other places, Where can I fing streetwalker?[/QUOTE]

Yuki - buy an English newspaper, look in the back pages, look for "massage for Businessmen"

KTV - there are no "good but not expensive" KTVs. If you can't afford it then don't go. I don't say that pridefully, but just warning you that it's very expensive. The best way to go is to have someone else host you and pay for everything (assuming you are doing business in Taiwan and have local Taiwanese host you)

Streetwalkers - Long Shan Temple is a great area, but the women are high 30s to low 40s. But if you are desperate and short on cash.....

Don't forget the saunas: $4.3K for a nice service, girls are mid to late 20s, some early 30s, 5-7 (if you are lucky) faces

[QUOTE=Whitemancantjump]Hey fellow Mongers.
My question to the Local Brothers out there is; Are there any massage parlors near Sherwood Hotel that do a "rub and tug"? I have tried White House on Dun Hua and found it strictly legit. There is one parlor almost directly across the street from the Sherwood and one further down Min Sheng East road (by the university) that I have yet to try.

I am American and my Mandarin is not as good as it should be.

Thanks again for all those who have written reports along the way. I will be back in Taipei in March and will report any further findings.

Cheers,

Whitemancantjump[/QUOTE]

Stay with the major establishments like Caesars. I find those minor ones around Taipei to be ridiculously short on talent. I am so glad the lights are dim and red so I can't see their faces. Their body is great, voice is great, service is great, but when the light shines on them I see a 4 face, urgh, sorry, those of you know my minimum is an 8, 7 if I'm desperate.

Caesars girls are mostly in the 5-7 range, but other minor establishments are in the 3-5 range.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Are you kidding? The KTVs I go to I can say most girls I take out are better than Chiling Lin. Also, Chiling Lin is old and not as hot as she was like 7-8 years ago.

To answer your question, she's between 8-9 in my rating.[/QUOTE]

Dude,

in my book you are being way too generous, I only rate her a 7 at best. For my money I like that girl who has been doing the online game ads (林嘉琪)looking like a Taiwan Tombraider and was the central girl for the Deaf Olympics opening ceremony. She is a 10+ in my books.

I have not seen anyone to match her but have found 8s and 9s here. But for me how you interact with a girl is more important than how they look. Much of the hottest, best experiences I have had are with girls who enjoy the sex as much, or even more, than I did.