Sauna Reviews

Justed wanted to do my part on writing a report as I do some research here once I'm a blue moon. I'm going to keep it concise but if there are any questions, I'll answer.

Went to FN around 10:30 PM on a Wednesday night. Wasn't too crowded until later on in the night 2 AM or so.

A hefty amount of females on both "models" and regular girls. Honestly, like a fellow ISGer told me. The status is mainly for height purposes. The "models" are just taller. There were definitely a lot of cute regular girls but they were just shorter. A lot of the models did not have much ass which is disappointing. But there were a couple regulars that had nice firm butts. This is saying a lot because I am a very picky guy and I am more of a latina lover than asian.

I haven't read any posts stating that FN puts on a show. But the night that I went. They put on a good show. But again, the girls didn't seem into it.

Food is OK. One of the staff offered me a package deal: girl, massage, and body to body bath (Forgot what its called) and I accepted.

Saw the line up. Ended up with a regular girl #778. Wish I paid more attention to more of the numbers because there were definitely some cute spinners.

My time with 778 was good mainly cause we had chemistry (I'm a younger guy closer to her age. She was 20). BBBJ (would of liked a little more suction but it was good), 69, cow girl, and doggy.

For the first time since I started going to Macau, I did not step foot in a sauna. So why am I posting here? Sauna girls!

Last time I visited Macau was in April, and visited several saunas, some for the first time: Rio, FN, and even D1 (not a sauna, I know). Somehow, I clicked with most of the girls I had sessions with (2 at Rio + a thigh massage girl, 1 at FN, and 1 at D1). Stayed in touch with them all via chat, and all but one of them continued to chat. The one that dropped I think moved home and got a BF (as gleaned from wechat).

I arrived in Macau late in the evening, and got to the hotel around 10 pm. I was staying very close to Houva, and was too tired to go to a sauna (which was kind of a hike or a taxi, and I didn't feel like dealing with that). So I checked out Houva. When entering, there is a little lobby, a reception desk, and a small stage. There were three foreign guys (Indian / Middle Eastern?) there and it definitely felt a little sketchy. The mama brings out a lineup for me and keeps barking at me to remember the number! Remember the number! Well of course, I feel rushed and did not remember any numbers, haha. The girls she brings out are all Viet maybe 5's and 6's. There's one particularly tall one with a nice rack. I speak Chinese so I ask for a lineup of the Chinese girls. She brings them out. And they are worse.

Since she tells me I get special pricing since I speak Chinese (I honestly can't remember the amount but it seemed reasonable, maybe 700 hkd? I choose a girl. But don't remember any numbers so I just say I'll take the tall one. She asks me if I want to walk with her or have her come 5 minutes behind. I opt to have her come behind, and I give her my room number. I also ask how much I should offer for taxi fare, she asks the girl where she lives and tells me 50 MOP should do it.

Back in the room, the girl is very nice and friendly-- but speaks very little English. So most of the time is spent just fucking. Pretty average session, but a good value. I crash.

The next morning, I've set up a meeting with a cute Viet I met at FN in April. She has been the most enthusiastic about chatting with me despite her lack of English. She sends selfies, will video chat once in a while (where we say very little), and often tells me she misses me. I think it was the multiple Os she had last time she saw me, she couldn't stop grinning after that. She arrives in the morning at my hotel right after her shift ends and I thought maybe we'd grab breakfast, go out and shop, or something. Nope, instead she says she is tired and wants to go upstairs. We hug and get re-acquainted, and within 10 minutes she is furiously DFK and undressing me. We fuck in all positions while she goes wild (though oddly fervently refuses to allow DATY this time, when last time she had multiple Os. Maybe it was her time of the month? Finally I finish and she collapses. And promptly goes to sleep. Pretty much passes out.

Ok. I wasn't expecting this. I quietly lock up a few valuables, but leave some cash and my laptop out. Stupid, I know. But I didn't want to be too weird about it. I go out and about, go to the gym, buy some food for us and head back a few hours later. Well, she was a perfect angel, was asleep the whole time. When she wakes up, I offer her some food that I bought but she refuses. Instead, she initiates another fuck session, very GFE. She originally didn't even want condoms but I had to insist. And when we're done, she says she has to go to work, so she showers, gets dressed, DFK and heads out. Telling me that she's flying home to visit family the next day. No mention or hint of money ever, and she didn't take me up on anything at all (not even food) -- I had originally planned to take her shopping, maybe buy her a little something nice. Nothing crazy, mind you, but I thought that's what was expected. Have I found a true GFE here?

Well somehow, even after two crazy fuck sessions, I start getting the urge that evening. So I set up with the Thai girl (who could pass for Chinese model looks) I met from D1. We had pretty good chemistry last time at D1, and she seemed eager to come see me after her shift ended. Well, when it got close to the appointed time, she starts asking me if I can pay anything (and seemed a little embarrassed for asking, or at least pretended to be). She tells me whatever I can is ok. She asks for $200, and I offer $150 instead for LT. She says ok. And we have a pretty good session.

The last girl I tried to set up a meet with was one of the Rio girls. Smoking hot model spinner. She got snapped up immediately before I could motion to the supervisor, and I had to wait two showtimes to get her. She was pretty "professional" in the room, did not allow DFK or DATY (saying she reserved that for bfs), but seemed to warm up a little after a 30+ min fuck session, and some chatting. She gave me her wechat after all, and seemed to be playing along. Teased a little, asked me when I was coming back, etc. Well, she ended up being the most flaky, of course. Originally had hoped to take her out on the town on her day off, but she decides to work instead, and tells me that I should offer her a stipend for missing work. She wants 6000 hkd, and I balk, and when I do, she tells me I pay 2300 HKD for just an hour at Rio, so 6000 HKD should be nothing for overnight. I think about it and counter with $500 (I don't have much HKD left, and don't feel like exchanging more). She says she will work instead, and I can come see her if I want. Well, I guess it's pretty clear what her priorities are. So I guess it wasn't a big loss.

Since I struck out with the Rio girl, I message the thigh girl from FN. She's also Viet, but could pass for Chinese and speaks fluent Mandarin (one of her colleagues told me she worked in Taiwan for a while). We set up a time to meet for lunch the next day before I have to leave for the ferry. I also ask the hotel for a 2 pm late check out, just in case. I really didn't have any expectations here, but I figured wth? Well, we meet and have a very nice lunch and chat, and she tells me she is in between jobs and was fired from Rio because she was caught accepting tips directly from customers, which apparently is not allowed? (In retrospect, and after reading Natty's reports. Is this because she was caught doing more than thigh massage?) None of it was intended to get me to pay her anything though, she was just telling me about her life and how it all worked with finding jobs at these places, and that she was lined up to start a new job in a few days.

Back at the hotel, we pop open a bottle of sake that I had left over, and sit and talk more, and I know time is running out. It's already 1 pm. I start putting on some moves, and she resists. But not for long. Finally, after what looks like some thought, she says, "let's shower". So we get cleaned up and get down to business. And she has the most perfect, perky, natural see-cups I've seen on an Asian girl in a long time. And she genuinely seemed like she needed a good dicking. She cums a few times, and we finish just in time for me to shower, pack, and check-out without penalty. Even though she didn't ask for anything, I slip $1000HKD in her bag since I know she's between jobs. She gives me a hug and I'm off to the ferry after a very surprising, but nice finish to my trip. Without any saunas, but plenty of sauna girls!

Some questions for the experienced members:

1) Is it possible I found a true GFE with the Viet sauna girl?

2) What about the thigh massage girl? I slipped her $1000HKD but was it unnecessary?

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1630242]
Some questions for the experienced members:

1) Is it possible I found a true GFE with the Viet sauna girl?

2) What about the thigh massage girl? I slipped her $1000HKD but was it unnecessary?[/QUOTE]Read your report. Very good. I've been to Macau before but took a girl with me at the time so she could get an extension to her visa for HK. So had no chance to experience the Macao delights.

I'm due to go back shortly and may well see what is on the go.

As to your questions?

1 Who knows? Only time will tell! Will do no harm to keep in touch.

2 It was unnecessary but it will pay dividends in the future. Sounds like not a big deal for you but she will appreciate it. At the end of the day they are all there for the money. Every little helps.

I normally overnight in Macau and just leave my bags with the Rio Spa reception and sleep on the couches after I've had my fun. Are there any other spas that will store your bags and let you sleep there til morning? - happy to go back to the Rio, but always looking for a new place. I'd rather spend my money in the spa than on a hotel.

Cheers,

GB

[QUOTE=Goatboy55;1636253]I normally overnight in Macau and just leave my bags with the Rio Spa reception and sleep on the couches after I've had my fun. Are there any other spas that will store your bags and let you sleep there til morning? - happy to go back to the Rio, but always looking for a new place. I'd rather spend my money in the spa than on a hotel.
[/QUOTE]I've slept at 18 Sauna a couple of times. I didn't have luggage but saw others bring in their bags without problems. Just tell the reception that you have luggage and they'll take care of you. You can sleep on their couches, and at that time they also had a "sleeping area" (just a small room segmented into tiny spaces -- just enough to lay down and sleep in, which was fine by me). Last time I was there they were doing some renovations so maybe they have better accommodations now.

18 of course won't be as luxurious as Rio (I believe they are run by the same group). I'd guess any of the higher-end saunas will be happy to safeguard your luggage and find a place for you to sleep. After all they want your $$ Just tell a manager or an attendant that you want to sleep. (I made hand signals since I don't speak much Chinese).

[QUOTE=Goatboy55;1636253]I normally overnight in Macau and just leave my bags with the Rio Spa reception and sleep on the couches after I've had my fun. Are there any other spas that will store your bags and let you sleep there til morning? - happy to go back to the Rio, but always looking for a new place. I'd rather spend my money in the spa than on a hotel.

Cheers,

GB[/QUOTE]At Famila Noble they gave me a room for myself. Much better then a chair to sleep on.

Not sure if that is their standard policy. On the other hand they must have about 40 rooms.

Maybe it is standard policy on normal nights.

Hi,

Do you recall the price for thigh massage? I'll be in Macau Nov. 3. Someone wrote MOP1,000 -- yikes. Can't be true. I was at 18 in Nov 2013 and it was around MOP238.

Thanks!

My annual trip to Asia, only had 2 nights in Macau though. Sampled FN for the 1st time and liked it. Since there are so many reports already on FN so I won't anything. The girls were good, I even saw a couple of Latinos and a black Jamaican there. I was hoping for shows there were none, it was a Monday night.

I stay at the President Hotel, it was within easy walking distance of multiple saunas in the area. I saw Supreme Sauna on Fortuna hotel next door, also saw Golden Sauna on 1 of the back streets and decided to give it a shot. In my opinion my experience in Golden Sauna was as good if not even better than any of my previous trips to Sanado before it was closed.

Entry:

There are 2 entrances to Golden sauna both are lit up with giant neon signs so you have to be blind to miss it. Upon entry you are instructed to take the elevator to 2nd floor, where you will be led to the locker. All attendants there are male. As in FN, you can carry your cell phone with you but they provide no pouch or plastic bag for you to protect it from all the fun I am about to have. It was the same problem I had in FN, so for new comers it may be a good idea to bring your own zip lock bag or pouch.

Initial impression:

After undressed in the locker, you will step over to the shower / pool areas. Here you can shower in the stalls and soak in the hot & cold pools, or for $128 MOP, you can have a Viet girl bath you for 20-25 minutes. I saw an Asian gentleman having this bath and seemed to be enjoying it while flirting with the bathing girl. So I figure why not, might as well try the whole experience. The bath girls are only 6-7 range in looks, but they are very good in giving you a satisfactory experience. You will be asked to sit on a chair that has a opening in the middle allowing them easy access to all of your sensitive parts, first you will be asked to face the front put your feet up in the stool in front of you. The girl will wash your front upper body, then your legs and thighs, plenty of attention will be given to the little bro. After that you will be asked to turn around, the same attention will be paid to your back and your posterior orifice. This is all done out in the open but nobody paid much attention to us which was just as fine. It was very enjoyable, and for $128 MOP it's a great value, it's better than fake shower / bath I had received in other saunas where the girl barely touches you and for a higher price. After this you step over to the drying station where another Viet girl will dry you and help you into the hated pajamas. This part maybe sort of a rip off as at the end she will ask you to sign for a tip, I put down $30 MOP and it seemed to suffice. I am sure you prob can ignore her and choose to dry and put on the pajamas yourself, but I figure my 1st time here, just let it go.

Lounge experience:

The lounging area is probably considered mid size, definitely not as large as FN. I counted 3 lounging areas each with only about 10 chairs, perhaps there are other areas that were not open since it was a Tuesday night. Right the way I was approached by Vietnamese service girls for massages, I opted for the thigh massage. It's only $128 for a 25 min, quite a value compared to other saunas. The girl started her routine in the lounge but a nice older Chinese gentleman next to me told me should go to a private room since it's the same price. He even mildly scolded the girl for trying to take advantage of a new customer. What a good fellow. Naturally I requested to move our routines done in the private room. After the initial awkward moments I had a very good experience with the thigh massage and will not elaborate. The thigh massage girl I had was a bit older prob early 30's, but I noticed another one that's a bit cuter, but overall I prob won't ask them to come to my room any time.

The show and line up:

Back to the lounge I go and asked for a menu and ordered some simple Chinese food to placate part of my hunger. Also to my pleasant surprise I was told that there will be shows tonight, please noted that it was a Tuesday. The show didn't start until was well after 10 pm and it's very similar to that of Sanado: smoke comes out, laser lights on, and the girls in skimpy dress come out paired up with a customer. As the music changes the girls will rotate to a different guy and do various routines such as light kissing of your nipples, grinding on your lap, licking of your inner thigh. There was no short BJ here as they do in Sanado. They all wore revealing clothes that allow customers to view and assess their natural talents. Unlike in Darling 1 or in Golden 18, here you can see their tits, cunts and ass fully exposed. Especially as they are doing the show across As far as I can judge, half the girls there have see cup or larger with definitely a few DS and double DS, mostly real I think. None are over 30 yo, with a few looking like they are 18. Most girls there are Vietnamese with some Chinese and I saw one tall thin black girl that's not bad looking, was told she's Brazilian. Half of the girls there during the show were quite playful and flirtatious, not looking bored as I expected. After the show is over, all the girls will come out (I counted ate least several dozen) and lined up against the wall or around the lounge. Then by parties of 3 they will parade into each lounge area continuously for the guys to pick. I have to say half of those paraded in front of me would probably qualify for miss Asia pageant for both looks and their body, it was very hard to keep track of their number as there were probably half a dozen I could have bone right on the spot. I was debating between 3 smoking hot ones with the breasts, until I saw this beautiful baby face chick with a killer hip and butt and what I judged to be a natural see, beautiful long dyed here, she looked like she's still in high school. Initially I had doubts as she looked slightly cool and distant, however my penis overruled my brain and I had to have her (#399). Once she came over and flashed me brief smile all my doubts melted away. In terms of price I can't recall the exact amount, I think it was $1480 I think, $1680 for Chinese, there is a $1880 price for what I am not sur. Turned out this girl is Chinese, they also asked me if I wanted to pay extra $200 MOP for because-play / nylon stocking I said why the hell not.

The main event.

After she changed into a bikini outfit and came back to the lounge we chat and touched for a few minutes. Then she led me down stair to the private rooms. It's similar to most Saunas, queen size bed with mirrors up top and on the side, a separate bath area with an odd looking chair / bed that 's not exactly flat, shaped more like a chaise bed. You are first asked to kneel on the bed, bending over, there she will wash you thoroughly, then flip over, wash the front, quick BBBJ, boob massage, the usual, finally asked to flip over to kneel on the bed again for a brief rim job. As she started the rimming part I asked her to stop, as much as I enjoyed it I wanted to give her a good impression for what I was about to ask later.

After the bath off we chat for a few minutes then went to the bed for the usual routines, more boob massage, fire and ice BBBJ. Then she put on the nylon stocking. OMG, she looked stunning already without it, imagine a hot 18 yo high school girl putting on a tight nylon stocking. She complained mildly that the nylon was red instead of black like it used to. No matter to me, I couldn't keep my hands off of her as we did more mutual groping and massaging and light kissing. Finally she put on the cover and I flipped her over for mission, it was a lovely sight. See her beautiful baby face grimacing in pleasure and pain, I then put her feet up around my neck for more mission, all the while groping her soft breasts and her hips and butts underneath that nylon. Then off we went to cowgirl and then the end I opted to finish the night off in doggy. Her hip and butts were amazing, perfectly proportioned, well shaped with not an ounce of baby fat anywhere. After probably another 5 minute of heavy pounding of her butt and groping of her lovely soft breasts I finally fired the shot, didn't even realized I ripped part of her nylon off, it was awesome. I didn't try DFK or DATY as I wasn't into it, but we had some light mouth to mouth kissing.

Aftermath.

After the fireworks we lay in bed and chat for 10 minutes. I speak good Cantonese and passable mandarin. She is from northern China (didn't say where), been here in Macau for 2 months, lives with 8 other girls in an apartment nearby, it's probably provided by the company. Their shifts are usually 8 pm- 8 am, quite a bummer as I was hoping she can spend the night with me later. Well I asked her anyway and she said she can come over after her shift is over at 8 am. Back in the lounge I ate more free food from the menu, and also stayed long enough for a 2nd show. I was a little upset that my girl was picked by an ugly old man. Oh well, all of us will be old and ugly at some point. It's time for me to leave. The damage at the door I think was about $2280 MOP, all in all it's great value that can not be beat for the quality of service I enjoyed.

The next morning we called and texted each other and she came over as promised, I met her in the front of the hotel and took her up to my room, it took me longer to cum as it was my 3rd round in 2 nights. But she was accommodating as usual and I just can not get enough of pretty face and her body. She asked for $2000 MOP on the phone but we settled for $1600, I prob could bargain down but I simply had to have her, again. She made it clear that she didn't mind spending the day with me had I stay. But I had to go to Hong Kong that day. Oh well. I still have her number so maybe next time.

Summary.

My experience in Golden Sauna was one of the best Sauna experience I had not only in terms of service, quality of girls but also in terms of value; and they had shows, even on weekdays. Sadly I only had 2 nights in Macau and only 1 night in Golden Sauna but I would definitely return.

Went there last night and got to a fairly yung (35) Viet gal. 80 minutes, BBBJ, CG, blah blah. Fell asleep LOL.

Anyway 730 out the door.

Houva much better service wise.

Got my Viet Massagi girl again next to MGM, FS cimpussy, 500 mop.

PC out.

Did 2 gals from this site this week thus far and both nice or racetrack quality gals for half the price.

Booth were at Metro Park and 700 each. Small tits and one big tits.

45 minutes, BBBJ, rimming various positions and shower and done.

Good value for a quickie and much better than the ever rising prices in the Macau Sauna experience with fat, smoking arrogant Mainlanders who frequent all these places. The 2nd hand smoke alone can kill you in the resting areas IMHO LOL.

PC out.

In Macau on a stopover, en route to Taipei. This would not be a stopover without the saunas of Macau to make it worthwhile.

My original plan was to visit two saunas: Famila Noble and maybe one of the Darlings. But the plane was two hours late on departure, meaning I arrived too late in the evening to make a double sauna trip worthwhile, given I had to depart early in the morning.

I decided on Famila Noble, as this place never fails to deliver good to great service.

I arrived there around 7:30 pm. The help in the changing area was almost non-existent, and I could not see any bodywash girls in the hot pool area. I went from the shower to get my robes, which was put on me by a 21-23 year old Vietnamese woman, tall, thin in a good way, and with a pair of silicon enhancements.

I sat in the chair in a spot where I would readily see the girls walk into the room, to have some advance information before being faced with the 20-30 girls that often comprise the line-up. After a couple of walk-bys, I had seen enough and asked one of the managers to see the line-up (wo yao kan xiao jie).

In walked the ladies. The line-up had its usual share of models, simple taller girls and some of whom were also considerably wider girls, including two from our least wealthy continent. They had two or three Russian types, one Singapore, and many Chinese models, one of whom was dressed in a white dress, tall, lithe and what looked to be a natural rack, positioned nicely beneath her pretty face. Oddly, and unless I am mistaken, there were no non-Chinese normal priced girls, just about 10-15 Vietnamese girls. The one who had robed me continued to capture my eye and I selected her. She went to file her paperwork and came back to take me to her room.

The walk to the room is always humorous as the girl prances with her claimer, with false pride. She held my hand, and I was surprised to feel her hands as being very rough. When she spoke, it was clear that she was a Vietnamese from the country side, thick accent, and poorly enunciated words. She was surprised to hear that I had a limited stock of Vietnamese words, which sometimes warms the girl to her 1 hour boyfriend, but not in this case.

The room did not have a big shower area with a long washing table. It was a simple shower and the first time I had seen this in FN. We had a quick shower, came back to the room, she went out and came back, flipped me over and cat bath. Onto the fire and ice blowjob, which I encouraged her to do longer than what she had planned, but not too long. We moved onto doggy, missionary, cowgirl, at which point I needed more encouragement, so pulled out, she worked her magic and it was back in for a second time. Soon it was enough and we shifted to some more hand action. I stationed myself on top of her and she maintained her positioned, but feared moisture on her face, so we shifted to her finishing me while I laid back and enjoyed the great finishing view of a pretty woman, with great symmetrical breasts.

I returned to the lounge, and had a shoulder massage, then a foot massage and then a leg massage, the latter two from the same Vietnamese woman. Meanwhile, I watched the line-up come and go. In the 4 to 5 hours I was in FN, I saw the same tall, thin Chinese model in the white dress be pulled by 3 different guys. She could probably be picked up to 6 or 8 times in a good night.

Towards the end of the leg massage, the Vietnamese lady passed a small compliment (anh dep trai: hansome man), I replied them dep qua (pretty woman), she smiled, and pointed to her friend standing beside us, and asked if I would like a thigh massage. I had not done so at FN before, so I clarified if there was a room, and there is, and off we went.

The thigh massage lady was also Vietnamese, maybe 28-30, and with enough cleavage revealed to hint at a great pair of breasts. I sat in the chair, and she started, ten minutes on the thighs (all rooms have clocks), then 10 minutes of main action, before asking for the second round. I naturally said yes, simply because this woman's hands were magic, the pleasure was excruciating. It went on for another 20 minutes and no finish, so I happily went to a third round. She wanted me to finish now, and I pealed back her top to reveal her breasts, that were as good as hinted from the cleavage. Finally, and with no small feeling of exhaustion, she brought me to the end.

No energy for anything else, other than to go to my hotel (I preferred this time to stay in the hotel instead of one of FN's rooms). Shower, hot tub, shower and with head still reeling I paid the bill which was 3470 HKD. I am not sure on what the individual costs were. I exited FN, went to check my phone and it was not with me. I ran back inside, explained I had forgotten my phone, was escorted inside, and sure enough it was beside the shower where I had left it. Good staff, will not touch any customer's possession, which just matches the good service that one generally finds throughout FN (that and the large number of well-chested women).

[QUOTE=VagigiLover;1639166]Hi,

Do you recall the price for thigh massage? I'll be in Macau Nov. 3. Someone wrote MOP1,000 -- yikes. Can't be true. I was at 18 in Nov 2013 and it was around MOP238.

Thanks![/QUOTE]At which sauna? It varies sauna to sauna.

[QUOTE=Ilovmuff;1644435]At which sauna? It varies sauna to sauna.[/QUOTE]I was at FN and it cost around 350.

Day 1.

I first check out MP3. This was the day after the Grand Prix hangover and it was pretty dead around, even the normally busy casinos on a weekday. I am seated and order a beer (price range around MOP 50), there are sexy girls dancing around a pole every 10 or 15 minutes, so it wasn't bad. There was about 3 Pinoy pros, friendly but I was after something a little easier on the eyes. A hot Caucasian catches my eye, she turns out to be one of the pole dancers. Another scantily clad blond, wearing a fishnet dress with an all open string back showing a g-string comes over, she offers herself to me for 7 k, I said no. She asks how much I was willing to pay, I said none because she was looking really sick or heavily hung over. Shortly after she too got on the pole and then I realised she was also a pole dancer. I prefered her friend anyway, I overheard the name Dora or something. Later, a hotter friend of the 3 pino girls show up, she made no effort to come over and I decided to pass on her too. I leave and proceed to Familia Nobre (FN). Closest major hotels to FN is StarWorld or MGM in case one needs to catch a bus via Ferry Terminal or Border Gate.

There was a lineup of about 30 girls. The black dress ones are the more expensive "models", I pick a regular #729 Viet called Dan. She was the best looking, tall but quite flat chested. Good thing for me she actually spoke some English, not well but she had a translator on her phone. Dan is 18 and only lost her virginity about a year ago. She gave quite good service with great BJ, but no DFK. Not a demure classy lady but she made up for it with quite a tight pussy, like red wine that had been recently open, just past her scary virginity popping phase, in her prime, tight and not yet over the hill. She told me her first time was scary, awfully painful and did not have sex for months. She started only enjoying it about her 3rd or 4th time months later. She tells me competition is high and would be lucky to see 2 or 3 customers, on some days she would see none, well all the more for me. On our way out her friend # 717 walks by us, she is a lot more petite and did look happy for whatever reason, I don't know. At FN, the wash area is not fancy like Darling 1, so Darling 1 wins out (only facility wise).

I like FN because you go straight to the room (like Darling 1) no locker room phase.

After my time, it was late, I was tired and decided to catch a taxi back to my hotel. A useful note here is that no taxis will stop just outside FN as it is a CTV monitored bus stop only where non-compliance is fined, you have to walk a short distance away from the area.

Day 2.

I had buffet lunch at MGM Rossio for $208++ on a weekday. Not a Sunday, so it was cheaper but also probably lacks some of the finer items on offer like Boston Lobster. Still I enjoyed my lunch. Noted are the excellent bread roll (I normally stay away from bread but it was just too tasty and fluffy) and the blended ice juice called Rossio (with Strawberry, Mango and more). I wondered around at the foyer outside Rossio with the large cylindrical aquarium and saw 2 working girls near the ice-cream parlour, not bad but not great, so I passed.

At night I hit Rio Spa for the first time.

To be honest, I found it overpriced, the cheapest girls go for about $2180+ (or was it $2400+), elsewhere you would get model grade. The Japanese kimono girls were not that hot (maybe fat in the wrong places), the taller model girls were not all pretty. Like East Spa, there is a locker room / communal shower-bath phase with robe after. Maybe it is just me, but I don't like seeing a lot of dicks just before dicking a girl. I find it a bit of a turn off. The show happens at the bath area every hour. The show is where you pick your girls. I found it too competitive (too many punters for too few girls) and this was on a weekday. I was relaxing on one of the couches, where a girl then took my number (don't know why, is it to charge you extra? I figured if it was, it can't be too much anyway). Also when the show starts, you have to "run" to the bath area to pick your girl as opposed to East Spa where they come to you. The rooms where presumably the thigh massage was done was only partially frosted and not as private as East Spa. On whole, I did not find the quality of the girls to be generally better than East Spa or FN on the night I was there.

I picked #233 who was from China and fortunately for me speaks a bit of English. She was not model or anything but was the girl I wanted, her BJ was very decent and she was tighter than expected, some brief rimming, but no DFK. Can't remember her name but she was 22 yrs old. I enjoyed my time with her, damage $2508 (no extras). I am glad I finally visited Rio I had heard so much about but just a little overpriced to me for what it was.

On my 3rd and last day, I return to Familia Nobre for Dan # 729 but was told she was away (or maybe she was busy), so I picked # 922 (can't remember her name), an elegant looking model grade, tall and classy from Singapore. In the room, she spoke and I knew right away she was not from Singapore, but Thailand. Late 20's and expected her to be quite loose. She was not as tight as Dan but not too loose. Decent BJ. This time the shower in the room had a better table and was able to be washed down like a piece of meat + some body slide thrown in. Not a bad session but would have preferred Dan.

I was not expecting to visit HK / Macau again anytime soon, so I was also able to knock off on my travel wishlist.

- IFT restaurant, fine dining at very affordable prices. Basically it is a place where waiters and chefs are trained using real customers, in exchanged, only a nominal price is charged. This restaurant is a little out if the way but I would happily dine there again.

- Cafe Nata, finally got to try these egg tarts. I have been wanting to try them for the last 2 - 3 years but either the queue was too long or it was raining. The wait was about 15 minutes and I thought Lord Stowe (from Coloane, not Venetian) were better, but a little too far away.

Took a ferry back to HK again to connect to Clark, flight out of Macau just leaves and arrives at Clark too late.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1626471]Day 41 Tuesday April 8, 2014 Macau Day 3:
There is not too much pressure to subscribe to a service and after a while the attendants will leave you alone to watch Chinese TV, read the paper, get on the internet, relax or just sleep.

Luckily I had a pen and some scratch paper with me and both girls gave me their numbers. I never found the time to call them though.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for great reports to you and Poopbunny. I intend to visit Macau in 2 months and these detailed descriptions of local saunas are extremely useful. Could you please clarify two things for me:

A) How is it possible to use Internet there, is there a Wi-Fi available so people can surf with smartphone or tablet?

B) Where did you keep your pen, camera, money in cash for that massage girl which you had sex with "unofficially"? Are there any pockets in the robe provided for customers?

[QUOTE=Melor;1650877]Many thanks for great reports to you and Poopbunny. I intend to visit Macau in 2 months and these detailed descriptions of local saunas are extremely useful. Could you please clarify two things for me:

A) How is it possible to use Internet there, is there a Wi-Fi available so people can surf with smartphone or tablet?

B) Where did you keep your pen, camera, money in cash for that massage girl which you had sex with "unofficially"? Are there any pockets in the robe provided for customers?[/QUOTE]I just returned from my 3rd trip to Macau so thought I could answer these.

A. Most of the saunas have WiFi as do many of the casinos and spots around town, but it's still really easier to get a SIM for your phone. I stopped at the first phone store I saw and got a prepaid card for 100 HKD, 90 went to data (I don't remember how much data, but was plenty for at least a month of heavy usage). Just a quick note, Macau isn't adding 4 G service until 2015 so on an iPhone you may need to turn off 4 g to get the data connection to work.

B. After my first trip I noticed guys with a waterproof folder or something similar to the one I linked below. I got one for this year and found it really handy. Can put your tablet, phone, and whatever else in to carry with you. I personally took another small non-transparent envelope inside with my condoms of choice. Seemed a bit classier having this than a ziploc bag. In specific answer to your question most of the robes do not have pockets in my experience.

[URL]http://www.rei.com/product/874466/e-case-eseries-20-case-2013-closeout[/URL]

[QUOTE=Melor;1650877]Many thanks for great reports to you and Poopbunny. I intend to visit Macau in 2 months and these detailed descriptions of local saunas are extremely useful. Could you please clarify two things for me:

A) how is it possible to use Internet there, is there a Wi-Fi available so people can surf with smartphone or tablet?

B) where did you keep your pen, camera, money in cash for that massage girl which you had sex with "unofficially"? Are there any pockets in the robe provided for customers?[/QUOTE]I don't have the answer to A). But I did see some people using their Laptops in Rio so it is a possibility. Maybe someone else here knows.

B) At Familia Nobre & Darling 1, you go to the room with the girl with all your stuff (no Locker Room phase).

Rio & East Spa, has a separate Locker Room / Public Shower phase. Relax phase (food, thigh massage, etc.) - then go to room with girl.

There are no pockets in the robes, but at any point in time, you could go back to your locker to retrieve any of your stuff.

One more thing to add is that Rio will want to up sell condoms, so you might want to bring your own. I had mine tucked under my watch I wore at all times and did not need to go back to the locker. I highly recommend the Sagami 001 (available from Japan or ebay).

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1651058]A. Most of the saunas have WiFi as do many of the casinos and spots around town, but it's still really easier to get a SIM for your phone
...
B. After my first trip I noticed guys with a waterproof folder or something similar to the one I linked below. I got one for this year and found it really handy. Can put your tablet, phone, and whatever else in to carry with you.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I forgot indeed about possibility to surf Internet via local SIM. Will also look to purchase some kind of waterproof bag before my travel.

[QUOTE=Poopbunny;1651183]One more thing to add is that Rio will want to up sell condoms, so you might want to bring your own. I had mine tucked under my watch I wore at all times and did not need to go back to the locker. I highly recommend the Sagami 001 (available from Japan or ebay).[/QUOTE]Yep, I am also using these. Tried Sagami about year ago and was pretty satisfied. I top up my stocks usually in Bangkok, they sell it in Isetan store chain.

Got into Macau a couple of days ago and attempted to go to Sanado for a massage ect. Found that's it's been turned into a gambling establishment. Walked a couple of blocks to Rio spa. Getting in I gave a BS story about forgetting my Rio coupon in the room. I am really staying elsewhere, the response was choose a girl and the entry fee will be waived.

Decide to get a body wash and the girl "Tiny" was so damn cute I decided to get a HJ from her. Both the shower 258 hk and the HJ were great. Tipped Tiny who asked to come later to my hotel. Then proceeded to the lounge and asked for a massage, response was 1 hour full body for 900 hk and they will waive the entry fee. Had several more beers and the left. There was some irritation on the staffs part that I did not choose a girl from the line up. They suspected HJ by body wash girl. I just claimed to be tired. Total out the door was 1400 including HJ tip.

Went back the next day to the Rio. Had another body wash, different girl. During BW I hear staff nearby yelling no cum no cum LOL. Then choose a Viet for fire and ice BBJ-CIM including a hot milk bath Awesome. Then a few beers. Damage was 2400 out the door.

Despite a reputation of expense both days the Rio either forgot charges or let me slide on some costs. Zero attempts to upsell on.

Anything. 1st day 5:00 pm 30 girls, maybe 8-9 mongers. Second day 4:00 pm 20 girls and 5 punters. Quality was good, several on both days were quite cute.

Overall impression, great spa & facilities. Staff took good care of me and there was much more English spoken than in prior trips. Almost zero cigarette smoke, 1 same guy both days.

All in all both days were a good experience. Today I will try Golden or FN.

Guido88.

Forgot to mention. Rio wifi Sucked, could not connect.

Guido88.

[QUOTE=Guido88;1651490]1st day 5:00 pm 30 girls, maybe 8-9 mongers. Second day 4:00 pm 20 girls and 5 punters. Quality was good, several on both days were quite cute.[/QUOTE]Good to hear that there are much more girls than customers.

As an add-on, I walked by today and barely noticed the sign attached to the overhang as it is quite faded. I was looking for the street number of '19' and once I saw that number above the door, I noticed the barely legible sign. Since it was Sunday morning, I did not bother going in though I may return later. Place look quite dodgy from outside so that explains the inexpensive price.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1563093]I found this information about it:

"HouVa is another great place which is very close to Royal Hotel. I know it may be hard, but go to any major hotel and get in taxi queue and have doorman tell taxi driver to take you to Royal (This way, the doorman may be able to act as your interpreter, but most taxis will understand). When you get off at Royal, wait until taxi departs and walk directly across the park that is front of hotel. On the street after the park will be a small boulevard. Look for sign that says "electro massagem hou va". Make sure you tell mamas an, no taxi. She'll actually open door to see if cab is waiting outside.

Don't go directly to HouVa via taxi or your rate will go up 30. HouVa provides a line-up an it's 90% viet. You can go as cheap as 400 for 45 mins FS to 700 for 90 mins (unlimited shots). The general feel is GFE and PSE in many cases. You should be able to find something to satisfy you. They open at 3:00PM but best time is after 5:00PM. This place is very close to Sanado Square."

You can find it on this map:

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103259594851416659897.00045b9dc1d0d52567ea2&dg=feature[/url]

And I attached a picture of the entrance that I have found.[/QUOTE]

I was quoted $3 k HKG by Sofitel for Saturday night. Masters Macau just down the street wanted $1200. Hotel Lisboa on Friday wanted $1600. I checked out a total firetrap guest house near the Cathedral and they wanted $600.

Exchange rate to USD is $7. 75. Do the math.

I like Macau but the hotel prices are out of sight. I ended paying $1000 hongkong for a room where the bed felt like a box spring.

Not coming back. It's just not worth the expense.

[QUOTE=WildHawk;1480498]Fine enough; you may be more current on pricing. I was thinking more along the lines of about USD 180 for the Sofitel and at least 240 for The Venetian. Places on the upper end. If you've gotten rooms at the Rio for HKD 800, then that's an exceptional deal. The rooms there are big, but I think the place has long seen its finest days. And, yes, HK hotel rooms are tiny. I'm just not seeing Macau as a great place for value, lodgingwise, or pussywise, relative to LOS and AC.[/QUOTE]

On the advice of Natty Bumpo and others, I went to FN for my first sauna experience. It was flat out awesome and I learned a few things in the process. After entering around 10:30 pm, I relaxed in the pool, hottubs, and sauna. I was quite tired and napped briefly on the chaise lounge by the pool before heading to the main room. For whatever reason, I was only given a pair of shorts and robe and did not have to don the ridiculous panties other customers were wearing under their shorts.

I was quite pleased to see the very comfortable barcolounger chairs in the main room where I relaxed and observed for a while. About 15 minutes later, I went to another section of the rooms where I watched some of the girls come through for a display.

One attractive Vietnam girl came over to offer me a thigh massage and I knew from reading prior reports that it was not their intention to make you come during the thigh massage in order to save for the main event. In my case, I told her that I wanted relief as it had been a while for me and did not want to explode prematurely with whoever I selected and judging by the girls that would be easy to do. After going to a private room, she easily accomplished my wishes and also said she was available. However, I decided that I wanted to see the complete lineup before moving forward with a girl.

It was almost overwhelming when the girls came out -- so many gorgeous girls. I actually found the non-models and less expensive girls more attractive. It appears the models are determine by height but in several instances they seemed to have rather lumpy bodies underneath their tight cocktail dresses.

I selected a girl from Saigon after locking eyes and getting a nice smile from her though several girls offered the same smile and amiable behavior. We immediately proceeded to room where I was given a rock star experience from a cute and vivacious 21 year old. There was no rimming, however, we immediately engaged in DFK and she was completely agreeable of DATY and I slipped a wet finger into her little hole. She got very hot and at least appeared to enjoy my 20 minutes of DATY. I also rubbed my cok against her clit for quite a while, which a sensational feeling.

Total cost was about $233 USD for the thigh massage and FS. This was for one hour.

I also decided to stay here at the FN for my next trip. It is easy and very relaxing to sleep on the lounges. You can save a lot by skipping the overpriced hotels of! Acau. Also, next time I need to remember to bring my reading glasses so I can read the all important menu of services and food service in the main lounge.

I was in Macau in early December for three days and two nights for a conference.

I decided to stay at the Sofitel Hotel as I wanted to be distant from the conference and I wanted to try to stay in a new area in Macau. The Sofitel Hotel is excellent. The location is a distant (20 minute) from sauna central, although it is only a two minute walk from the relocated Darling 1 (more on that later). The rooms have been renovated recently, and the gym is similarly filled with new equipment (cardio, free weights (minimal), cable machines and a good core center), a clean changing area, that also includes a sauna and a steam room. The price was HKD 1300/ night, but booked well in advance of the trip.

The first time I visited Macau was about 7 or 8 years earlier, during a side trip when working in HK. I did not enjoy my sauna experience on my first trip to Macau. The reason for this is that I did not understand what the saunas are about in Macau. I was expecting an experience similar to what one might have in Bangkok when visiting a massage or soapy. It was only after reflecting on the sauna experience in Macau and subsequently making a few more visits, was I able to work out a plan and expectations that permitted me to enjoy the experience for what it is, and not what I thought it should be similar to.

Critical to enjoying the sauna experience is to appreciate the amenities that surround the core reason to go to a sauna. This means enjoying the baths, steam rooms, food and other forms of personal service provided in the sauna, instead of trying to get in and out of the sauna paying as little as possible for a session with the girl of choice. The consequence is that the experience will last for several enjoyable hours filled with various kinds of attention, pampering and pleasure.

My intention on this trip was to visit all of the big four touted on this forum (East Spa, Familia Nobre, Darling 1 and Rio). My first stop on this trip was East Spa.

I arrived in Macau at about 4:30 pm and after a slow tortuous drive from the airport to Sofitel, I cleaned up and was ready to walk to East Spa. 20 minutes of walking and I found the Waldo hotel and made my way up to East Spa. It was 8 pm when I arrived and the show was getting ready to start. Unfortunately, the 32 or so seats that are found in the main lounge area were completely full. The manager suggested I stand and watch the show, but I wanted none of this. Instead I retreated to the dining area. While sitting in the dining area, I was a familiar face: Thigh Massage Girl number 667. In 2 of my last 3 visits to East Spa this same thigh massage girl had taken me to a private room for a massage. She is a round and pleasantly endowed Indonesian girl. We had exchanged numbers on my previous visits but nothing had come of it because I was only in Macau for a few hours, as a diversion from some work in Macau.

I said Hello, she said thigh massage and I said sure. We went to the room, and spent the next 40 minutes engaged in a thigh massage. During the massage she kept asking me, do you want to invite me or should I invite you. I had an inkling what she was suggesting, but I did not follow up. Finally, she laid it out in the open and said she could come to my hotel. She was finished at 11 pm that night, but I declined suggesting the next day. She worked late the next night and offered an afternoon visit, to which I said Yes.

We completed the massage and I returned to the lounge area. 667 joined me there and gave me an arm massage. It was now about 9:20 and I was waiting for the next show to begin. I though they might stage the show at 1 hour or 90 minute intervals to keep the girls working at a reasonable pace, but I had to wait until 10 pm for the next show. The show started, and it had four acts. First was a girl sitting on your lap where you could fondle her breasts. Second was similar to this, but the girls leaned forward so you could see their pussies for the girls opposite to you. Third I don't recall and fourth was a quick and all too unpleasurable handjob. After this, the girls paraded, but nothing appealed to me. The girls were reasonably young, ranging in the 5-8 scale (only a couple at the top and they were selected quickly). Nothing bad, but for a sauna experience, one would want more, especially more shape. The girls here were almost all Chinese and absent curves in the right places.

Knowing that it would cost more, I decided to leave and go to FN. The cost for East Spa was HKD 1700. If I had selected a girl it might have been HKD2500-2700. Whether I took a girl or not the place was getting its money from me.

The walk to FN was ten minutes. I arrived changed quickly, saw a familiar body wash girl from Vietnam, but declined her offer. I wanted to make a selection quickly. I went into the room, sat down and was approached by a VN leg / pedicure girl who recognized me from my previous visit. I told her later, as I wanted to select. I vicariously watched a couple of line-ups before calling for my own line-up. Even at about 11 pm, there were still 25 girls to select from mixed between the standard VN girls and the model types. I saw an intriguing looking woman who was ostensibly a Singaporean model. Accepting the lie, but accepting that she looked great, I selected her. Price was to be 2288.

When I spoke to her it was obvious she was Thai, but I think a mix of Singaporean and Thai, as she admitted to. She had a great false rack, and a face made sexy by its mixed Thai and Chinese blood. We got to the room, which had the normal soapy mattress set up. She left me in the room and took her time getting her soaps, oils and lubes. We went into the shower room and she gave me a soapy body massage. This is where the plastic tits are inferior to real ones, definitely not much pleasure in being massaged by compressed silicon.

We moved to the bed, where an excellent but all too typically short blowjob (fire and ice) ensued. We moved to the main act and she was ready for some significant action. No complaints or no hints of concern about how long or how I decided to do it with her. Soon I knew the reason why. Her breath absolutely smelt of alcohol. I guess she gave her self some Singha courage for this work. Finally, I tired of the sex and asked her to handjob me to finish. This is where the big breasts and her exotic face play to their best effect. Positioned above me, I could enjoy the site of both, until their inspirational factor led me to the desired end.

We finished, and said our sawadee kup / kas, and it was back to the lounge.

More to come in the second 1/2 of the report on this night. FN and D3.

Continuing after the massage, I return to the main lounge area.

Almost immediately after sitting down, I was approached by one of the leg / foot massage VN ladies. She remembered me from my previous visit, a few weeks ago. I had spoken a few words of Vietnamese and she now assumed that I was perfectly fluent and hit me with full flow Vietnamese, of which I understood less than nothing.

From here, she proceeded to give him a very pleasant leg massage. While massaging my legs, one of the managers came up to me and said this leg massage was on the house. Why, I don't know, but maybe it was because the lady doing the massage remembered me from which he must have inferred that I had been here a few times. The leg massage continued and we moved to banter in easy VN, English and some mandarin, which was a nice accompaniment to the leg massage. After one course of leg massage she asked if I would like another leg massage, and I said sure, why not. But only one more as I wanted to select another girl after this. She noted I had gone once and was surprised to hear I wanted to take a girl again.

As she did the leg massage (it was now past 1 am) I noticed the lineup of both regular and model types become thinner and thinner, as this must be the busiest time (it was also a Saturday night). With no appealing girls (to me at least) left in the line-up I switch my attention to the thigh massage girls and noticed one with the breasts spilling out of her top. When the leg massage finished, I asked her if she could do a thigh massage for me. The answer was Yes, as one might expect.

We went to the thigh massage room, and she began pleasantly enough. Light massaging of the thighs with some playful activities in the areas of central interest. After about 15 minutes, she asked me, do I like her. There is only one answer, yes, I said. Next was, do I want her, she said she can come to my hotel tonight. This seems to be a common action by the thigh massagers, try to upsell to full service at the hotel. I declined, then she asked if I want a handjob. I said sure and she said you must pay 5 times. What is five times, I asked. Five times she said. Five times what? Five times, she answered with some aggravation. This continued for awhile until it became clear that she wanted to book me for five thigh massages. I said no. She asked, how many. I said three, as we had passed 30 minutes in the room already. She agreed, and shifted from titillate and play mode, into direct pump action. Not exactly what I expected, but she wanted to get the job done, once negotiated. It was still pleasant, but now I wanted to see just how much time the 3 x could buy me. I kept her at it for about 15-20 more minutes, until she started to become visibly exasperated. We focused to the finish, and we were finally done at the correct time for the price she requested.

Happy at finishing, she walked me back to the lounge where I had some fruits (always fresh at FN) and other small snacks.

I wanted to go to D3 so I soon removed myself from the lounge and went to have a short soak in the hot pool to help rid myself of the oil spread all over the middle part of my body. While soaking in the hot tub, the body scrub girl that I knew came by and asked if I wanted a body scrub. I said sure, since she had a big beautiful, silicon set.

Off to the body scrub room. The body scrub is not that sexual generally, it is more about just getting nice and clean again after all the activities in the lounge and other rooms. The body scrub girl does spend some time giving you a tit slide and this time she always went to stroke me for a bit, but could readily see there was little to no life in that part of my body. Scrub finished, it was time to shower and go.

Total bill was surprisingly only about HKD 2600 or 2700. This time I looked closely as I wanted to make sure there was no mistake, because I had expected more. For some reason the 2288 girl was priced at 1900, the two leg massages were free, and I paid normal price for the 3 xthigh and body scrub. No idea why they had decided to cut the price, I never asked for such, but I guess this is part of their way to support repeat and return business.

I walked outside, and it was now past 3 am, perfect for going to D3. First, I went to the AIA Tower to check out a new pole dance club, whose name starts with an S, but I can't recall the full name. Nothing happening inside, few if any customers and some European pole dancers standing around. I took a taxi to D3, which is in the Fisherman's Wharf opposite to the main ferry terminal. You must walk inside for one minute and turn right and follow your ears to D3.

I paid the 100 HKD entry. The place was full. Half the crowd were young (18-22) Macau people, there was a smattering of filipina, about 8 dances of modest to good levels of attractiveness and a smattering of people of all other sorts. The music was loud dance music as would be expected, with the music not as loud and the lights coming on when the dancer's dance. Given my activities to now for the night, there was not much to pull me to try to pull someone, as essentially it was a whole lot of average that might be available given the right set of circumstances. I stayed for about 45 minutes, spoke to a couple of filipina, gave them my free drink coupon and caught a taxi back to Sofitel.

It was now between 4 and 5 am. Attendance at tomorrow's conference was looking unlikely, especially as doing such might drain energy from the pursuit of tomorrow night's action in Darling 1 and Rio.

With apologies to the poster who first posted this map, I find this google map particularly useful for getting a general idea of where the various places of interest are situated in Macau.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z5aBwDeJBhig.kX62ETO6WRao&msa=0&ll=22.19726[/URL]

I wake up at about 9. Not happening. Sleep until 12:30, and finally gain the energy to get out of bed.

Some breakfast, then a text to the Indonesian massage girl from East Spa to let her know our 5 pm can't happen. She suggests 3 pm, I suggest No, and that's the last I have heard from her.

Rest, work and gym and it is the evening.

Time to take a stroll to Darling 1. I noticed the new Darling 1 location, on the taxi ride from the airport to Sofitel. Facing Sofitel, with your back to the street, Darling 1 is to your left, about 2 to 3 blocks. It is only a 2 to 3 minute walk.

It is situated in a hotel (Masters Hotel? Probably the wrong name). You can go through the front entrance of the hotel, or enter by the side door which is the designated Darling 1 entrance. The elevator to take you to the 3rd (floor is on the far side of the building from the Darling entrance.

You exit the elevator on the 3rd floor and walk right into the fish bowl area. It is not really a fish bowl, but similar to one.

On your left when you walk in is the counter for payment, to your right are three round red couches where you can sit and view the girls. The girls are sitting in an open area about 5 m in front of you. I saw about 20 girls when I walked in. I was a bit disappointed in the numbers and asked why there were so few girls. The hostess explained that most were in the room. I thought this was just a stock answer and called her on it, and she pointed to a board by the cashier counter, which showed a bunch of red numbers indicating rooms in use.

When I walked in there was one other person looking at girls. In the 15 minutes it took me to make my choice, another 5 people walked in, three of whom were Japanese. There was no high pressure to make a choice, only some advice on which girls were from where. There were three stellar Thai girls on the left, a dozen Chinese girls (no models) sitting in the front and the rest were Vietnamese. One tall big breasted Thai girl caught my eye, as did a similar large chested Vietnamese girl. I asked the hostess to ask the girls to come together to stand in front of me so that I could make a more informed choice. The girls did so reluctantly. I selected the Vietnamese girl, and my apology to the Thai girl.

I paid 1700 HKD for the Vietnamese girl (name she gave was Anne) and we went to the room. The rooms are excellent. Obviously new, with a large round bed, mirrors in all the right places and a large washing area, with a tub for play, same as what they had in the old location. It feels refreshing to be in a place with new and top notch facilities.

We changed into nothing, and while waiting for the bath tub to fill, Anne gave me some nice tit play on my slowly hardening member. Anne was a bit old, perhaps in her 30's, but with a great natural pair of breasts, a decently trim mid-section, albeit with a somewhat widening butt and legs. She had a constant smile on her face. She mentioned that she had been working here for two years, and she typically worked 13 hours in a day. We converged on Mandarin for communication (most VN girls in Macau speak Mandarin reasonably well), as she did not speak English any better than I spoke Vietnamese.

Once the tub was filled, we went into the tub where she made a token wash and returned to the tit play. The girls in Darling seem to specialize in this, which emphasizes the importance of selecting a girl with a good, natural endowment. We shifted positions in the tub and she commenced a decent blowjob, after rinsing all soap from me. We continued like this for another few minutes, and shifted to the bed. Tit play and blow job continued until she pulled out a condom. I asked her to delay the condom (as we had 75 minutes in total to fill) and she did so with no visible signs of displeasure. Soon, however, it was time for the condom and we started with the standard set of positions.

She had no problems with the sex, even when I took her off the bed and did her from behind, while holding her arms, as one of several non standard positions. Often the girls in these shops like to stick to the standard three: missionary, dog style or cowgirl. We continued, changed condoms and continued some more. Time was getting tight so I asked her to finish me, hoping for a blow to finish, but she was not into that, so we went handjob and then tit job and it was done.

Overall, a solid performance on her part. Not really PSE, slightly GFE as there was some light kissing, but still a sauna / soapy type experience.

I returned to my hotel, had something to eat, rested and then walked to Rio. It was not getting late, and I did not arrive in Rio until shortly before midnight. I had thought I had been to Rio before, but I did not recognize the inside of the place at all. I guess it was 18, where I had been before.

When I entered, the line-up was taking place already. As the change room is close to the staging area, I poked my head in while still fully clothed. One of the managers did not like this and he encouraged me to change first as the girls would still be there after I had changed. I came out in a towel and viewed the 30-40 girls on display for choosing. The majority of girls were the standard Chinese category. He mentioned that one girl was from one of the Stans, but I could not recall which one. There was a Chinese model or two, a couple of Vietnamese girls and four Japanese girls. I was speaking with the manager while viewing with the girls and he was giving me a frank rundown on the girls. I asked him about the Japanese girls, and said they are not really Japanese are they? He said yes and no. They are mixed but have a Japanese passport in some cases, but were mostly raised in China. Indigenous Japanese are just too difficult to get to come to Macau, he said, especially given their aversion to frequent sex with non-Japanese. This story seemed reasonable especially considering the closed nature of the Japanese sex industry.

Although a couple of Chinese girls were smiling strongly at me, I selected no one.

I went to shower and changed to the robe and entered the lounge. Wow, the lounge area is much nicer than any I had previously visited. The TVs are close to you, the chairs are not too close to one another, and furnishings and floor and wall coverings look new.

I sat down in a lounge chair and was soon approached by a cute young lady, maybe in her mid 20's. She asked if I wanted a leg massage. As I had to wait about an hour until the next show, I said sure. I heard her talk to one of her friends, yep Vietnamese, so I threw a couple of Vietnamese words at her. She was delighted that I knew a little bit of VN, and told her friends. Being a slow Sunday night, soon I had several VN lounge girls hanging around my chair.

The leg massage girl removed my shorts, covered me with a towel and began the leg massage. It was more alternate rubbing of the leg then light handjob, then any kind of massage. Soon another VN girl came to the chair and asked if I wanted a arm / shoulder massage. Only sensible answer is Yes.

The other ladies were still hovering around my chair, which made for a unique experience, having my junk rubbed by one, my shoulders massaged by another, while chatting and staring at another 3 girls. This lasted until the boss came and scattered the crowd encouraging them to find work elsewhere in the lounge.

The time soon finished for the massage and the leg massage lady begin a more vigorous pumping while asking me if I wanted round 2 for the leg massage. She knows her stuff, I thought to myself, giving me maximum reason to say yes, which I did. The lady at the top shifted to a head massage. Another 20 minutes of this, then I saw the girls walking to the pool area for the next viewing and selection of the ladies. I said thank you to the two massage girls and went to make my choice.

(continued next report).

After the massages, I went to view the ladies.

My choice was going to be the Chinese girl who was smiling and encouraging me in the previous round of viewing, but she was selected just as I arrived to view the girls.

I now had to make another choice. I could not take my eyes off of one of the semi-faux Japanese girls, and thought this might be a nice way to add some variety to the spa experience.

I told the manager I was selecting her (331, if I recall correctly). He reminded me she was not pure Japanese, and then reminded me that she would cost HKD3800. OK and ok, let's give it a try.

We went to the room. The manager advised her I spoke Japanese and she should do so as well. She listened closely to him.

From the moment we entered the room, until we left it, she was a perfect Japanese girls. The words and mannerisms were entirely Japanese. Sweet, deferential and obliging to the man's wishes, while speaking softly and courteously, she even called me onii-chan, which technically means older brother but is a name often given to a partner in sex). She did not have a stellar body, but she was easily the whitest girl I had seen since living on the cold Canadian prairie in the middle of winter.

The rooms had a section for the bed, and a section for the wash area, similar to FN, although the washing bed was better quality in Rio. My Japanese lady (can't remember first name, but she said last name was Miyagi, which can be a boner killer for those who remember Daniel-San and Miyagi from the Karate Kid movies) rinsed me, gave me a cat bath, rolled me over and did the same, punctuated by a short bit of fellatio. We were back on the bed. I looked at the clock and we were not even 15 minutes into the session. Usually the skilled sauna girls will chew up much of the first half hour in preliminaries, to limit the time you can spend actually having sex. Not so in this case.

Back on the bed, and I began to recognize that her body was much better than what I had thought. Small but decent sized soft breasts, nice thin waist, and a decent ass on a pair of shapely legs. She continued with oral action, also using fire and ice, but the ice was too cold for my liking. She had no problem spending a decent amount of effort and time on oral.

Soon we shifted to the main event. She was loud from the moment I put it in, until I stopped. Two condoms, multiple positions, lube when she began to dry, and she did not ever ask me to stop, or say I am tired, only a couple of words of (itai. Pain) escaped her when I was doing her from behind too vigorously. Extremely enjoyable ride, and easy to bounce around the bed with a smaller girl (22 years old she said).

We finished and still had some time one the clock. I tried to get her to resume oral, but without any success given the amount of lube and other sources of wetness on me. I guess we could have washed and come back to the bed, but a nice slow handjob would be good. I asked her, tekoki? She looked at me puzzled, and said hand, and I said ok. She stroked me well, and soon her hand tired, so I positioned her underneath me and asked her 'kao ni kakete mo ii desu ka', which means can I cum on your face. She only understood half the sentence and asked me to explain. When I did, she said no, only on breasts. Damn. , was hoping for that, but did not expect it to happen. Only had that once or twice in FN. She stroked, and I got her to look at me directly while trying to be sexy, which worked and we were done.

Post-action, I tried some Mandarin on her (she was raised in Beijing) but she would not break character and speak any Chinese. Eventually we were done, and she asked if I enjoyed it. I said yes and thank you. She said good. She said you choose me so I must do everything to make you happy (well not quite everything.). In any case, I thought that was a great thing to say, and more or less summed up the experience.

I returned to the lounge area, replenished on some snacks (food is better than FN, slightly). Looked at the clock (3 am) and thought time to go especially if I was to get to work the next day.

Had a shower, and saw the nice pools and thought a short dip would be in order. Sat in the hottest pool for 5 minutes, and was getting ready to leave, when one of the wash girls came up to me and asked if I wanted a scrub in the partially enclosed pool side rooms. Can't deny a lady what she asks, so I said sure. She was VN, but there are also Indonesian wash girls as well. There seemed to be about 5 on duty.

We went to the room and she began washing me and started to bug me about my very limp penis. Dead I said. She replied too bad. She washed me for another ten minutes or so, and then paid much attention to my limpness, determined to solve that particular problem. Sure enough she did. Some stroking and life is good again. She continued and asked if I wanted to cum. I doubt I could, but said let's try. She said 500. I wasn't sure what she meant, but at that time an Indonesian girl came into the cubicle and stashed some cash in a crevice under the wall. Ahhh, cash tip. I said 300, she didn't like this amount but agreed. She earned the 300 in the 15 minutes she spent trying to coax my to another finish, but no success. Eventually I told her it is fine, no need to try. Being a trouper, she wanted to complete her mission, but accepted my body's limitations.

I had to return to my locker to retrieve the money. The locker attendant clearly new what I was doing, as no one needs cash inside the spa. I tipped him 20, took the 300, slid it to the wash girl and this time made sure to promptly wash, change and exit the building.

It was past 4 am, and another four hours had vanished in a spa. What also vanished was 5000 HKD from my pocket, 4700 HKD for the spa and 300 for the girl. Not cheap, but then again, not a typical experience. Is it worth it? Maybe not for all, but I do know that my first stop in Macau in the new year when I am working in HK, while be Rio.

[QUOTE=Koalie2001;1655031]I could not take my eyes off of one of the semi-faux Japanese girls, and thought this might be a nice way to add some variety to the spa experience.

I told the manager I was selecting her (331, if I recall correctly). He reminded me she was not pure Japanese, and then reminded me that she would cost HKD3800. OK and ok, let's give it a try.[/QUOTE]HKD 3800? Wow. Last April I used to have sex with j-girls in Yoshiwara soaplands in Tokyo for JPY 35,000-38,000 for 80 minutes. Exchange rate at that time was approximately 101:1. Japanese pussy in Macau is so much more expensive than at home fields.

How much typically tip?

And how does the tipping work?

Is it paid all at the end when about to settle the bill or pay the tip before any action happens?

[QUOTE=Dynolas;1656667]How much typically tip?

And how does the tipping work?

Is it paid all at the end when about to settle the bill or pay the tip before any action happens?[/QUOTE]Generally, tipping is not needed. It is only in exceptional circumstances where someone is doing something they should not that they would ask for a tip. I think one can visit a sauna and safely assume no tipping is needed, and no one will be offended.

The one exception is for the change room attendants, 10 to 20 HKD will be greatly appreciated by them, provided of course they are doing their job.

[QUOTE=Melor;1655818]HKD 3800? Wow. Last April I used to have sex with j-girls in Yoshiwara soaplands in Tokyo for JPY 35,000-38,000 for 80 minutes. Exchange rate at that time was approximately 101:1. Japanese pussy in Macau is so much more expensive than at home fields.[/QUOTE]Clearly a one-off as it makes zero sense to pay 3800 HKD other than as an experiment to see what the Japanese labeled girls have to offer.

Thanks, I was wondering how most people pay for most of these soapy massage places, sauna, brothels, etc. How do people pay and keep their privacy? Besides the obvious pay cash, do people use prepaid cards or is it fine to use credit cards? Since I like to keep private and not have them know my real name, etc. But at same time if I don't have cash on me want to use card.

[QUOTE=Koalie2001;1657380]Generally, tipping is not needed. It is only in exceptional circumstances where someone is doing something they should not that they would ask for a tip. I think one can visit a sauna and safely assume no tipping is needed, and no one will be offended.

The one exception is for the change room attendants, 10 to 20 HKD will be greatly appreciated by them, provided of course they are doing their job.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dynolas;1658018]Thanks, I was wondering how most people pay for most of these soapy massage places, sauna, brothels, etc. How do people pay and keep their privacy? Besides the obvious pay cash, do people use prepaid cards or is it fine to use credit cards? Since I like to keep private and not have them know my real name, etc. But at same time if I don't have cash on me want to use card.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for others, but I always pay cash in HKD. Plenty of ATMs in Macau so no problem taking cash in HKD or MOP (Patacas). Credit cards would be accepted, pre-paid cards does not seem likely, but then again I have never tried to use a pre-paid card nor asked about one.

[QUOTE=Dynolas;1658018]Thanks, I was wondering how most people pay for most of these soapy massage places, sauna, brothels, etc. How do people pay and keep their privacy? Besides the obvious pay cash, do people use prepaid cards or is it fine to use credit cards? Since I like to keep private and not have them know my real name, etc. But at same time if I don't have cash on me want to use card.[/QUOTE]Nobody will care about your real name, why should they? Tens and tens of people show up each day in any of this places. Do you think they keep records of names? What for? Discretion is part of their job.

The reason they might care is that if you are a public figure or eventually become one it will slightly haunt you since they have actual evidence to blackmail you, even thou yea discreet is their job in most of places, some places (outside China sauna) which might be a front as a massage parlor but Is more of brothel, if they get raided their will be records that you went.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1658279]Nobody will care about your real name, why should they? Tens and tens of people show up each day in any of this places. Do you think they keep records of names? What for? Discretion is part of their job.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dynolas;1658018]Thanks, I was wondering how most people pay for most of these soapy massage places, sauna, brothels, etc. How do people pay and keep their privacy? Besides the obvious pay cash, do people use prepaid cards or is it fine to use credit cards? Since I like to keep private and not have them know my real name, etc. But at same time if I don't have cash on me want to use card.[/QUOTE]I usually used creditcard, later it showed something like "xxx restaurant", so I even could claim it from my company haha.

[QUOTE=ThomasJefferson;1659464]I usually used creditcard, later it showed something like "xxx restaurant", so I even could claim it from my company haha.[/QUOTE]Personally I love getting the points. Always makes me smile when thinking about it later, even paying the bill. Can't say that about most credit card bills. For reference FN shows up as Sauna E Massagem Familia Macau MO and 18 shows as HOU WAN LOI enter. CO, LTD. Macau MO.

One tip though, I didn't have this problem last year, but going back and checking receipts this year even though I selected to be charged in pataca's they charged me the USD which was on the slip and was not a very good exchange rate. Still only talking about $20 or so, but is annoying. I would just make sure to tell the cashier next time to charge in local currency.

Looking to plan my first trip in Macau. I'm a totaly newbie about this place and the saunas.
Which Sauna (FN, Golden, Rio, Emperor, 18, Sanado, East) you recommend to a western guy for his first time here?
How much is the price for 1 HR of full service?
Full service what include? Massage, BBBJ and covered sex? DFK and DATY are up to the ladies? Anal and CIM are always extra?
I read that at Sanado if you leave before 6 pm you get a 20% discount. It is true?

Friend of mine told me that if you make 2 full service or more, you could have a free room for sleep. If this is true could be a good way for save money and don't book a hotel. If is not true, please suggest me some cheap hotel in the middle of the action.

Cash? it's better i'll change my € in HK$ or MOP?

Thanks in advance.

This site will help you on which sauna and pricing [URL]http://rockitreports.com/category/sex-in-macau/[/URL].

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1659952]Looking to plan my first trip in Macau. I'm a totaly newbie about this place and the saunas.

Which Sauna (FN, Golden, Rio, Emperor, 18, Sanado, East) you recommend to a western guy for his first time here?

How much is the price for 1 HR of full service?

Full service what include? Massage, BBBJ and covered sex? DFK and DATY are up to the ladies? Anal and CIM are always extra?

I read that at Sanado if you leave before 6 pm you get a 20% discount. It is true?

Friend of mine told me that if you make 2 full service or more, you could have a free room for sleep. If this is true could be a good way for save money and don't book a hotel. If is not true, please suggest me some cheap hotel in the middle of the action.

Cash? it's better i'll change my in HK$ or MOP?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dynolas;1660008]This site will help you on which sauna and pricing [URL]http://rockitreports.com/category/sex-in-macau/[/URL].[/QUOTE]I already read all report in this link yesterday before wrote my message here on ISG. This reports don't answer to all my question, for this I ask here, also many report are near one year old or more.

In the website they don't report exact price!

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1660279]This reports don't answer to all my question, for this I ask here, also many report are near one year old or more.

In the website they don't report exact price![/QUOTE]You may wish to read amazing report made by Natty Bumpo recently, just start from here and go up:

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1626113]Day 39 Sunday April 6, 2014 Macau Day 1[/QUOTE]

Recent reviewers did updates on Golden sauna, which is not often reviewed here.

I thought I would add to this, and also say something about*Supreme Sauna at the Fortuna*hotel. Also, at the end some comments on Rio and Eighteen.

I went to Golden mid afternoon on a Saturday, meaning to leave before 10 pm and get back to HK. This was partly to avoid the usual Saturday night crush in most Macau Saunas. (Only FN seems to cope with this well.).

I had a shower and then asked for the Japanese / Korean wash down: or whatever it's called. Like the previous reviewer said, it's rather public (unlike Rio). Nice friendly Viet, who cleaned in all the right places.

There is an area for a body scrub, but this also looked relatively public. Unlike *other spas.

The lounge was, despite my hopes was busy but not full. I found a place to settle down. The difference here is that the working girls hang about and chat with the clients. They are not closeted away and th appear when asked in a lineup. This means that you will get "drive by'ed" and will probably get sat on, with a 'I will not take no for an answer' attitude. Actually, this was not unpleasant and done with a sense of fun.

(Next time I will try to find a place far left corner facing where you enter. Probably see most of what is going on from there.).

I had the usual foot massage, a manicure and also a thigh massage under the towel. The are some grey uniformed girls who appear to do this in a private room, but they where busy most of the time.

There is a 'show', with girls rotating around seats, much like FN and a few others. The girls can miss you out on their rotation, and I got the impression that they rather disliked the whole routine.

However, given that you can choose without a lineup, which I prefer, it's easy to make a choice. They where very clear on what I was expected to pay. I chose a tall Chinese girl, who was very friendly whilst I was reclining. I will not go into the details but I really enjoyed the session; wet bath, lots of BJ and some rimming. She enjoyed DATY to the point she would not let me stop. Very skillful application of the condom, I was really concerned I was bareback. She had a really good laugh at me.

When I returned to the lounge, I was thinking of a Shanghai massage but "very busy", so left after another thigh massage.

I really liked this place, despite it very up front vibe (I typically relax with a Kindle), and will definitely return.

Prices where on a par with FN, not as expensive as Rio.

A couple of weeks later, I decided to try the Supreme Sauna at Fortune Hotel. Same time and day as I had visited Golden. Very, very different.

I had a body scrub, after waiting about 20 minutes. Dis-interested Viet girl. Took her top off near then end, but that was it. No idea why she bothered.

The lounge is dark-ish, and how shall I say "subdued". The layout is also rather strange: kind of narrow rows of lounging chairs. Had difficulty getting a foot massage, and ended up with a bloke doing it.

Management seemed very intent on customers selecting off a lineup, and then out as soon as possible. I found I was resenting this.

Decided to forgo the lineup, and asked for a Shanghai massage. This was actually quite good, the masseur (Chinese) very friendly and pleasant.

Also tried the thigh massage, it's in a private room. Girl quite bored, and I did not even suggest anything else. OK though.

Found the place rather depressing. A bit it like the strip bar on the same *floor.

Prices are similar to Golden.

Finally, a recent reviewer (VagigiLover) regarding Rio and Eighteen mentioned a "Facial and Thigh massage Combo" at both Rio and Eighteen. I have had a facial a few times at both these saunas. Rio is better, but my favorite in FN. But never been offered the thigh massage combo. It's not in the menu.

So maybe it's an occasional special or you just need to ask?

Also, strange experience at Eighteen last week; girl doing a thigh massage offers me a BJ in a private room. I think, why not? I get taken to some small rooms behind the kitchen, where they also do the facials. Very noisy. Girl towels me up, sits down, and with door open proceeds to give me a BJ. There are people walking about outside, they just ignore us. Then her thigh massage friend appears hands her a warm tea, which she starts to use. Kind off half a 'Fire & Ice' thing. I found it both strange and rather amusing. But would not repeat.

I still like Rio, it's modern and clean and the services are good. I seldom take one of the girls, however.

Especially now that they do the line up on the spa area, similar to Eighteen. Which I do not really like. It feels to much like a meat factory, and I am lazy. Better to just choose from the comfort of your lounge chair.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1627417]Day 43 Thursday April 10,2014 Macau Day 5:
... East Spa is on the 5th or 6th floor of the Waldo Hotel.

[URL]http://eaststartgroup.com/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Hi, where is East Spa? The address given in the URL is Hotel Casa Real? It's completely different direction from Waldo Hotel which is in Taipa.

[QUOTE=HornyCock;1663402]Hi, where is East Spa? [/QUOTE]Maybe this map could help you.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z5aBwDeJBhig.kX62ETO6WRao&msa=0&ll=22.19726[/URL]

I didn't get an answer in the general info, perhaps someone might have an answer here. Any luck with local girls? I've only heard from one person that they've met a local girl, but she only offered above the waist service.

[QUOTE=HornyCock;1663402]Hi, where is East Spa? The address given in the URL is Hotel Casa Real? It's completely different direction from Waldo Hotel which is in Taipa.[/QUOTE]East Spa is in the Waldo Hotel. Its sister operation, East Castle Spa, is in the Casa Real. East Castle Spa replaces Sanado which the group closed down in 2014. East Spa is the flagship of the group. Go there and Rio and Familia Nobre first.

[QUOTE=HornyCock;1663402]Hi, where is East Spa? The address given in the URL is Hotel Casa Real? It's completely different direction from Waldo Hotel which is in Taipa.[/QUOTE]No. The Waldo Hotel is in Macau City across the Avenida da Amizade from the Grand Lapa Hotel. You are thinking of the Grand Waldo Hotel, on the Sul da Marina Taipa-sul. All the Sauna action is in Macau City and I repeat East Spa is at the Waldo Hotel. East Castle Spa is at the Hotel Casa Real. You will be much better off staying in Macau city rather than Taipa, Cotai, or Coloane.

On my second night in Macau I walked down the Av. de Almeida Ribeiro from my hotel to the Lisboa Hotel and Casino. After walking around inside the hotel for a few minutes I went downstairs and found a Chinese restaurant in which I could sit, drink some hot tea and watch the young ladies race around the track. Some were okay looking; some were quite attractive. None seemed to notice me sitting idly in the restaurant. After a couple cups of tea I went up to Tim's Kitchen for dinner.

After dinner I walked up Av. de Lisboa to Alameda Dr. Carlos d'Assumpcao and Familia Nobre (FN). Before heading out that night I used Google Maps to browse the route and locate FN. Even had I not done that, it would have been very easy to find. I arrived around 9 pm.

Inside I was shown a menu listing services and prices. Then I went to the locker room where I was assigned a locker and a young man helped me out of my clothes. The guy went about his job in such a matter of fact way, even though I lean towards homophobic, I didn't feel uncomfortable. I was given a bracelet for my wrist with my locker number. Every time I ordered a service this number was recorded. When I left I was given the bill. I checked it and asked to see the menu I was shown when I entered. I then asked to have the bill explained. The staff was very patient, pleasant and answered all my questions. The bill was accurate. I then paid with a credit card. My statement showed a charge to SAUNA E MASSAGEM FAMIL, which was described as COCKTAIL LOUNGES, BARS, NIGHTCLUBS, TAVERNS.

After undressing I went into an area with showers, a large warm soaking pool, a small hot water whirlpool and a small cold plunge pool. There were also a dry sauna and a steam room. There were a few other Asian men in this area. Even though I was the only Caucasian, I was made to feel very comfortable by the staff, most of whom spoke at least some English. The other men seemed to care less that I am Caucasian. I showered and spent a good thirty minutes enjoying the different temperature pools and the steam room. In this area all the men just threw a towel over their shoulder and walked around casually, paying no attention to each other's nudity. I felt completely comfortable and enjoyed the sensation of freedom and lack of inhibitions. I saw three or four average look young ladies in this area. They paid no attention to me or any of the other men. I assume they were there to offer some sort of service, bathing or something; but I have no idea what it was and didn't bother to ask.

After the showers and soaks I walked into another room where I was given a pair of shorts and shirt. The clothes were comfortable enough, but hardly fashionable. No matter, I wasn't there to make a fashion statement. Now clothed I walked into another room lined with many large comfortable reclining chairs and large ottomans. There were many more chairs than patrons, so other than men who arrived together, there was plenty of spacing between everyone. I was shown to a chair. A towel was spread out on the chair for me and another towel placed over me when I sat down. Immediately a young lady asked if I would like something to eat or drink. I order some complimentary watermelon juice. While I was waiting for my juice an attractive lady approached me and asked if I would like a thigh massage. Having read about these I knew this was something I definitely wanted to experience. I said yes. She took me to a private room with another large reclining chair for me to sit on. Moments later my juice was delivered to this room. The young lady proceeded to pull down my shorts, apply generous amounts of oil to my thighs, scrotum and cock, and proceed to give me a very sensual massage. As I had expected, this lady was very skilled at slowly increasing my arousal until I was close to an orgasm, but never allowing me to cum. I believe the session was for about 20 minutes. It may have been half an hour. At any rate, I was enjoying it so much I asked for a second session. I believe I spent about forty-five minutes building almost to an orgasm; then being drawn back; then building again; over and over. The young lady said she was Vietnamese and spoke some English. While she massaged me I fondled her body some through her clothes. I told her she had lovely breasts. Her top showed a fair amount of cleavage. I assume she was wearing a push up bra. I asked if I could see her breast. She answered I could pay extra for a tit job to completion. I said nothing. After about forty-five minutes of bliss I thanked her and went back to the main lounge.

I was shown to another chair. I made myself comfortable, reclined in the chair, closed my eyes and relaxed. Occasionally I opened my eyes and noticed young ladies in various colored costumes walking around the room. They were approaching men, explaining the service they offered. They were very good at sensing which men, like me, wanted to be left alone.

Throughout the evening I was very impressed by the level of service. The staff were very well trained, very pleasant, eager to please, but not at all pushy.

After relaxing for about 15 minutes, I adjusted the chair into a more upright position. A young lady approached me and asked if I would care for a beverage or some food. I declined. Another lady asked if I would like a neck and shoulder massage. I accepted the offer. Almost immediately another lady appeared and asked if I would like a foot massage. Again I said yes. The ladies offering these massages were pleasant looking, but unlike the lady who gave the thigh massage, I would not describe them as particularly attractive. None the less they did their job well. The shoulder massage was a massage of my scalp, neck, shoulders, upper back, chest and arms. The foot massage included my calves and ankles. I'd guess these lasted fifteen or twenty minutes. Afterwards, I ordered another glass of watermelon juice.

By this time I was completely relaxed and felt like I was in paradise. FN is obviously very well managed. The staff is excellent. They offer great services and are very adept at making you feel like they are really there to serve you and make sure you are happy. And I was!

From time to time a group of two or three dozen ladies came into the lounge and walked around. They wore different costumes, some more revealing than others, but all very sexy. The costumes signified the nationality and price of the lady. Most of the ladies were Asian. A couple looked to be Russian or Eastern European. One lady looked to be Sub-Sahara African. I did not find them very attractive. The Asian ladies were of a variety of skin tones heights and shapes. All were attractive. Some were very attractive. At their third appearance I selected a Vietnamese lady. She was pretty, fairly tall, I'd guess around 5'5" in her bare feet, slender with small breasts and very white skin. She spoke very little English, less English than any of the massage ladies. I chose her by pointing her out to a young man who stood with them. My number was taken. The lady sensually took me by the arm and escorted me to a room. It was very nice, but not plush. Everything looked clean and new. There was a tub, a bed, a small table, a TV, hooks for hanging clothes and mirrors on the wall at the head of the bed, on the side of the bed and on the ceiling over the bed. I sat on the bed and the lady left me alone for a few minutes. When she returned she took off her clothes, undressed me and gave me a bath. Like I needed another bath. I was then dried and taken by the hand to the bed. The lady then bathed herself and joined me on the bed. The session consisted of a bit of a massage, caressing of the crack of my ass, scrotum and cock. Then a CBJ, with hot and then cold liquid in her mouth. This would have been better with a BBBJ. The session was concluded with covered FS in any position I wanted. I didn't ask about anal. Throughout the session the lady wore a constant smile and kept asking if I was pleased with her. She definitely was highly motivated to please me and ensure I had a good session. My only problem was I found the session to be too scripted and mechanical. I've been spoiled by the ladies in Bangkok, some of whom I've seen many times and have developed a friendship with. Sex with the best Bangkok ladies is much more fluid and adventurous. The good ladies in Bangkok are able to deliver a real GFE or PSE, depending on the lady; and some ladies can deliver both in a session. I would not describe my experience with the young lady at FN as GFE or PSE. Regardless, it was a very pleasant hour or so.

When we were finished she escorted me back to the lounge and thanked me for letting her give me a BJ and fucking her. Though that is not literally the way she put it. As soon as I returned to the lounge a young man approached me, asked if everything went well and if I was happy with the lady. I said yes.

I returned to one of the lounge chairs, relaxed, ordered some complimentary fried rice and a beer for a modest charge. I was offered more massages, manicures, pedicures, ear cleanings and thigh massages. I declined all offers. About 1 am I decided it was time to leave. I had spent about four hours there.

I took one last shower, availed myself of some of their toiletries and went back to the locker room. Along the way everyone asked me if I was enjoying myself or if there was anything I would like. As I've already written, this place really understands good customer service. In the locker room I was helped back into my clothes. Then I went into the main lobby and paid the bill. With the foreign transaction fee the bill came to US $319.44.

I was now a devout fan of the Macau saunas, or at least Familia Nobre, and was eager to visit Rio Spa the next night.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1664463] Then a CBJ, with hot and then cold liquid in her mouth. This would have been better with a BBBJ. [/QUOTE]Is at the discretion of the girl if do CBJ or BBBJ?? I really hate a CBJ, so do you think is better to ask which girls will do BBBJ before choosing.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1664463]Then I went into the main lobby and paid the bill. With the foreign transaction fee the bill came to US $319.44.[/QUOTE]Do you remember how much for FS only?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1665147]Is at the discretion of the girl if do CBJ or BBBJ?? I really hate a CBJ, so do you think is better to ask which girls will do BBBJ before choosing.

Do you remember how much for FS only?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I also find a CBJ less than satisfying. I didn't ask about a BBBJ. I learned a lot on my first two visits and would do some things differently. One is to inquire about a BBBJ. At the end of my report on Rio I will describe what I learned and will do differently on my next trip.

The FS was MOP1554. Other girls were less; I seem to recall they started around 1250. The most expensive girls cost much more. I don't remember how much. There were girls in the least expensive category who were attractive. I didn't think the most expensive girls were that much if any more attractive than the girl I picked. FN's lineup had many attractive girls to choose from.

Found myself in Macau with a few hours to kill before my midnight ferry to HK, so I went to the world famous Familia Nobre. The menu was fairly straightforward but between the attendant's crappy English and my lack of Mandarin monger vocab it wasn't entirely clear what was included in which massage package (still couldn't figure it out at the end but I got body scrub, pedicure, foot massage, ear cleaning, facial, head massage, two thigh massages, all the food I could eat and 60 minutes of heaven with #733 for 2958 hkd ($386).

I found the service impeccable and indulged myself in nearly everything that was offered. Now that I've read some more reviews it seems like I missed out somehow on the veggie massage. Next time for sure.

Enough said about the facility, dear reader is looking for the reviews.

Thigh Masseuse was named Phong (sorry, forgot number and it wasn't listed on the receipt) and she wore a pink shirt. I found her to be very cute and she expertly massaged my thighs and fondled my meat for 45 minutes as we chatted away in Mandarin. She offered to release xiao didi ("look, he's crying. I will make him sleep") for 1200 but I declined, wanting to save it for the main event. I befriended her on WeChat to get her photo.

Back in the lounge I had a light supper and a short nap. During this time at least a half-dozen lineups had paraded past my chair (quite a sight) and each time #733 caught my eye and smiled. I signaled to the pit boss and called her number. Ha Anh is 20 yr old knockout from Haiphong and her English was about as shitty as her Mandarin, so there wasn't much conversation beyond Google translated platitudes. No matter, what we were about to do didn't require speaking. Without her parade shoes she was at most 4 ft10 and 85 lbs. She stripped down revealing a tight 20 yr old figure with cute A cups, a belly button piercing and a few back tattoos. I noticed she had also had a fairly big front chest tattoo removed. That must to hurt. I personally think tattooed girls are more fun in bed so I like them, YMMV. She soaped me up on the table shower and soon hopped on for the body glide, which she did very energetically. Her hard nipples and the belly piercing made for a delightful sensation. I flipped and she continued her gyrations, this time rubbing her little Bush on xiao didi. We dried off and moved to the bed. She stepped out briefly for a cup of hot water, poured in some mouthwash and began a slurpy hot water catbath all over my back (very very nice). Soon she was deep between my cheeks and had her tongue all the way up my dirt pipe (also very nice but the mouthwash burned my ring a little). On the flip I too had a shot of mouthwash and spat it out in the wastebasket. She began an excellent deep BBBJ with some gagging. I asked for 69 and she eagerly shoved her crotch into my face. She had a lightly trimmed Bush with shaved lips (my favorite pubic hairstyle) and I began sucking her clit gently. Soon I was tonguing her deeply in both holes while she furiously sucked cock. I handed her one of my favorite condoms (Okamoto 002 L) and she covered me up. I think we both had some concerns that I would fit into her minicunt so we took it slowly at first. Soon she was on top grinding and pounding away at full speed. Between the constant parades, body gliding and general horniness she had exceptional endurance on top and gave no signs of fatigue as she bounced her way to her first orgasm. With my cock still inside her we sat up and started in the frog position. I pushed her onto her back and started kissing her neck and ears then moved to her lips and began LFK and soon transitioned to DFK. Soon we were fucking at full speed in missionary and she came again. Finally she turned around and we finished together in doggy while I rubbed her clit. She pulled off the rubber, cleaned me up with a wet towel and immediately started cuddling with me. She insisted on adding me to WeChat as well. With ten minutes left I gave her a light massage. Was probably a first for her from a customer and she loved it.

[QUOTE=Quimper;1666556]I handed her one of my favorite condoms (Okamoto 002 L) and she covered me up.[/QUOTE]You brought your own condoms, didn't you? Where did you keep them during stay there before use? I want to bring my own as well.

Flew into Macau from Manila last week and then cab straight to Rio. Got there about 11 pm. They took my hold luggage behind the desk and I put my hand luggage in the locker. Some notes:

- I stayed overnight, leaving the next day at 8 am.

- whilst I used a few of the services I didn't take a girl after being drained from a week in Phils.

- the no-smoking ban was being rigorously enforced! Much to the chagrin of some of the Chinese punters.

- the thigh massages now take place in the main room. Whilst I miss the privacy of the side rooms, there is a certain joy to having your see&be toyed with for half an hour in the public domain.

- the place was not too busy it being a Monday night. I slept well between 2 am and 7 am.

- they did not seem to mind I did not take a girl -they add on $400 or so for the sauna admission in these cases.

I like Rio, there is a hot selection of girls, the services and the 'wet' areas are very professional. The staff are diligent and you feel well looked after.

Total bill around $1200 - better for me than a night in a cheap hotel.

[QUOTE=Melor;1667031]You brought your own condoms, didn't you? Where did you keep them during stay there before use? I want to bring my own as well.[/QUOTE]I kept an ear-bud case along with my phone; I also saw people using a Ziploc baggie type thing. You can also go back to your locker at any time. Very important: if you decide to bring cash in do not make trouble for the girls by attempting to hand them cash in public, even as a tip. It will only cause problems for the girl with management and her colleagues.

[QUOTE=Quimper;1667444]I kept an ear-bud case along with my phone; I also saw people using a Ziploc baggie type thing. You can also go back to your locker at any time. Very important: if you decide to bring cash in do not make trouble for the girls by attempting to hand them cash in public, even as a tip. It will only cause problems for the girl with management and her colleagues.[/QUOTE]The official and public tips can be given by signing a tip slip. It will be added in your bill and the girl will get her cash. Being an official tip it can't be too high otherwise it looks as a service payment (not allowed).

Official are usually for the barber guy, the thigh massage girl (with some cushion as the reason why you tip them might be obvious) or the body scrubs, or the attendants.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1667497]The official and public tips can be given by signing a tip slip. It will be added in your bill and the girl will get her cash. Being an official tip it can't be too high otherwise it looks as a service payment (not allowed).[/QUOTE]Good to know, thanks for the explanation. During checkout I also noticed an additional 24 hkd charge on each line item which I assume was the 15% mentioned below. I had a 4 am 'date' with my thigh massage girl (struck out, next time I will get a hotel) and was in a rush to check out so I didn't have time for an explanation. Wish I had asked for a copy of the receipt. Either way, I was very impressed with FN and felt like I got my money's worth.

Hi,

As a long time reader this is my first post, please forgive me that I start posting here with a kind of question.

In order to save the cost for hotel rooms during my (usually 2 3 days) trips to macau, I usually sleep in the saunas. My favourite place for comfortable sleeping was Sanado Sauna, but this was unfortunately closed. So I thought to put together a list of all possibilities where to spend the night in a sauna for sleeping (I mean sleeping in a bed for 6 8 hours from the early morning until noon, not just a short nap in the sauna lounge, but I saw some saunas also provide bedding in the lounge for longer sleeping in the early morning hours) may be helpful also for others.

Here are my own experiences, I would appreciate if others could add some information about sleeping in other saunas in order to make a more complete overview:

1. Sanado Sauna (one room with appr. 20 bunk beds, fresh, comfortable bedding, privacy ok due to thick curtains) = Sauna closed.

2. Familia Nobre (appr. 20 to 30 private rooms with single beds, 2 rooms with bunk beds, private rooms OK, bunk rooms quite uncomfortable due to missing or very hard mattresses).

3. East Spa Club (rooms with appr. 8 to 10 bunk beds, bedding OK, but noisy and no privacy due to thin curtains).

I was working over the weekend in HK and too busy to make it to Macau on Friday and Saturday. Wan Chai was too far from where I was staying and action began too late given my work schedule, so everything needed to be saved for Sunday night.

The numbers.

1 night (18 Jan 2015).

10 hours in the spas, cumulative time.

9000 HKD spent in total.

3 Saunas visited.

3 Room encounters.

7 different girls manipulating the key part of my body.

5 sessions of thigh massage (3 different girls) in total.

2 head massages.

1 hand massage.

1 ear cleaning.

1 body scrub.

The details.

Arrived on the 4 pm Ferry from Hong Kong to Macau. First stop was Rio Spa, reaching there about 5:30 pm, after a 10-15 minute walk from the Macau ferry terminal. The Spa is quiet at this time of day, but still reasonably active.

Normal procedure, entered, changed and showered. Went to relax in the multiple temperature hot and cold pools and an Indonesian attendant asked if I wanted a body scrub. Sure, I said, 5 minutes more. No problem she said.

Exited the pool and we went into the scrub rooms which are completely enclosed unlike the semi-enclosed scrubbing areas that are poolside. She pointed out the price to me, which was about 275 HKD for a 20-25 minute scrub. She asked if I had been there before. Yes, I said and mentioned about the scrub I had poolside. Amy blowjob or handjob, she asked? Handjob I said. Later in the scrub she gave me a couple of pleasurable but short handies and asked if I wanted to go to completion by hand or mouth, but I said no.

Took another shower and went to the lounge area, which was nearly empty and very pleasantly smoke free. I was waiting for the poolside lineup when a Vietnamese thigh massage girl and Bali head message girl offered their services. Sure, I said. Pleasantries exchanged and off came the shorts, towel covered my mid-section and they began their work. The thigh massage girl spent 50% of the time on my legs and 50% giving me a slow handjob. Very pleasurable, and a bit funny as the Balinese girl mocked me playfully by imitating any moans or sounds I made. She also bugged the Vietnamese girl saying: She's getting wet! (exact words). We did a couple of rounds of this. After about 40-45 minutes the girls came out of their room. It was time to select.

An Indonesian captain accompanied me to the poolside viewing area to help me select. His advice was interrupted by the Macau guy, who had helped me previously. He remembered me, which was nice. The lineup was about 30 girls at 7 pm. Mostly Chinese, a few Viets, Mongolian, four Japanese, and a couple of Korean girls. A thin but fit Chinese girl, with a classic angular face and small breasts caught my eye and I selected her. The number was 112 or 121.

We went to the room. She was silent for the first five minutes even though I was speaking mandarin to her. After this initial warm up period, she became very talkative. We did the body wash on the raised tub, with light licks on the back and front. I could see she did not like doing this very much.

We finished and went to the bed. I saw her body fully. Nice tight body, good young face (20 ish she said as her age) but small pancake tits, flat and loose, the bra was doing all the work in the viewing area. She indicated the hair on my body hurt her tongue so she didn't want to do any body licking. No problem for me. The fire and ice blowjob was perfumed in a perfunctory manner, and my expectations for a good romp were decreasing quickly. She gave me a handjob to make me hard enough to go inside of her (the blowjob did nothing for me) and we started with her on top. Two minutes in: I am tired. Yes, it seems like a great use of 2100 HKD for this girl. I ignored her statements of tired (impossible to be tired at the pace she was moving), and kept her on top of me for a few more minutes, flipped her over for some variations of missionary and then went behind her. Soon she complained of pain (which I did not believe but I am sure she would even have complained were a pencil to be inside her for one minute). Pulled out, got her to do some handy work for ten minutes, then with a few minutes left, I asked for another condom, explaining that I could not come with her hand. Reluctantly she passed on to me, and now with anger powering me, I entered her with something much notably harder than earlier. In doggy for just a couple of minutes, I gave her a feeling of what it could be like if someone really went at her. I came a little, and pulled out and she complained of big pain, which again I severely doubt was the case.

Back to the lounge and I waited alone for 20 minutes for the next viewing session.

The lineup was similar and this time I selected a Vietnamese girl, nice breasts on a smallish body. I cannot remember the number but there are only three viet girls working there and she is the shortest one with the biggest chest.

Huge difference between the Chinese princess and this Vietnamese tigress. She was much more complimentary to me in the room, and made me feel as if she really wanted to be there with me. Her body was excellent, nice silicon breasts that felt real, good round hips and butt and a generally strong sexy demeanor.

Her work was expertly delivered, in particular the fire and ice became a true nasty blowjob with her saliva flowing everywhere. Ten minutes into this, she finally asked, time for condom and I said OK. I almost never do this in a sauna, because the pussies on these girls are not often attractive, but I licked her for a few minutes, which turned out to be a good choice because she did not like to use KY, only saliva as lubricant. She was open to a good vigorous banging, even in positions where she was essentially at my mercy to how fast, deep or hard I wanted to go into her. We went at it for a good length of time, until she asked me to cum. I pulled out, she said hand, I said, no mouth, and she complied bringing me to a great finish with a terrific and dirtily sexy combination of hand and mouth.

I went back to the lounge ordered some small food and a Vietnamese came by and offered to give me a hand massage. Sure I said. We chatted and it turns out that she was from the same province hear Hanoi as an ex-girlfriend of mine.

I left the Sauna after this but not before paying 5150 HKD for everything. The two room sessions cost 2100 HKD each, so the other six services somehow totaled only 900 HKD.

Next I went to the One (sauna in the Landmark hotel. This spa is located on the second floor. You can get there by turning right on entry to the hotel, and then taking two sets of escalators to the sauna. The appearance of the sauna is like a poor man's Rio. Smaller, somewhat older but similar lounge layout.

I went here because of a recent report that talked about the good appearance of the thigh massage girls. Sure enough when I entered I saw a number of girls wearing white, red and blue jackets open at the top, revealing in some cases impressive cleavage. I took a chair and sat down. A few people came by to offer various services and I said no, until one offered ear cleaning. I didn't really want this, but I wanted the thigh massage girls to see that I was not saying on to everybody. The ear cleaning woman was from Guangdong province, about late 30's. Pleasant to talk to. She offered head massage after ear cleaning, but I said no.

Sitting along again for another 15 minutes trying to catch an eye of the wandering thigh massage girls, but no luck. I was not going to call one over, as I did not know protocol in this place. Finally, a lady with a blue jacket and a nice rack came over and asked if I wanted a thigh massage, yes, I said.

She grabbed her equipment and began her work by first pulling off my shorts and covering me with a towel. True to the previous report this thigh massage is a much more erotic experience and definitely a go to place for anyone with a CFNM fetish. She did preliminary work on my thighs and then went straight to the task. Over a period of the next 40 minutes (25 minutes is the length of one thigh massage) she expertly manipulated me in various slow and sensuous actions, keeping me a state of constant arousal oscillating between semi-hard and very hard states. At times she removed the towel completely to take a better look at her handiwork.

After the first session was finished, I asked her if another person could join us. She called her friend over, who was younger and prettier and had a similarly nicely exposed chest. The first one did most of the handiwork as they did not jointly want to manipulate my penis, but the good point is that with both of them there, there was always a set of hands busy where they should be busy.

The two girls were from China, one from Shenyang and the second one from Sichuan (Chengdu). I didn't ask ages but would guess mid to late 20's. It was fun as well as I can speak enough Mandarin so that we can joke or converse, although towards the end of the second session, the girls were spending much time talking to each other. But I didn't care as I was too busy concentrating on the work of the hands and the eye candy in front of me. Even though this was in the lounge area, I felt no shyness, perhaps because or prior training in some of the open blowjob bars in Bangkok.

After the second session, the first girl asked me if I wanted to go to a room for a handjob, which meant she would take me to completion. I was not interested, but did understand that there would be a couple of charges for doing this.

Interestingly, the whole time I was there, I did not see any girls enter the lounge to be picked up and taken to the room, so I have no idea how the rest of the sauna operates. Also, given the experience with the Chinese princess earlier in the evening, I did not want to risk another such encounter especially with a mild case of blue balls.

I paid 1770 HKD, which was expensive. The thigh massage and ear cleaning were 220 each, so entry price was about 900. If I had taken a girl, then the total would likely have been around 2500 HKD, which is reasonable for that suite of services.

Wanting to close the night on a good note (it was now past 1 am), I crossed the street and walked to Familia Nobre. Quiet on entry, only one rather large body scrub girl. I wasted little time and walked into the lounge surprised in two ways. Nearly every lounge chair was occupied and some people were smoking. I asked a manager, WTF? No smoking. He left, then a bigger boss came to tell me, that they allow smoking to keep their customer base, which is essentially mainland Chinese.

I took a chair and did not feel good about the prospects for a good close to the night. Crowded and a bit smoky, I imagined a smaller than normal selection of girls, concentrated on the ones nobody wanted. I could not have been more wrong.

After settling in for 20 minutes or so, I called for the lineup. Boom: 20 red-dressed girls in front of me. 8 Chinese and 12 Vietnamese. No room in the lineup for the 10 or more models that I saw later. I looked over the lineup, lots of good potential and recognized a couple of girls I had had before. One girl caught my eye. Great chest, shorter, pretty face and Vietnamese, she met my eye first round through the girls but after that had her eyes elsewhere. Standard advice says to avoid such girls, but f-that, wanted her. I selected her (779 was her number).

She did her thing and took me to the room. I said (chao them, them Khoe Khong? Hi, how are you in Vietnamese to break the ice. The little vixen answered my back in perfect American English. Another case of WTF! Nice Vietnamese she says. I said amazing English, she speaks better than most educated Vietnamese I know.

Into the room, and I press her on how she can speak English in such a clean American accent. She said from watching movies. Not true, but there is a story that she did not want to tell, even after I told her about some of my prior relationships with VN girls. She was also much whiter and seemingly smarter than the other Vietnamese girls who work in a sauna. Once again, something unusual happening with her, but I never got the full story.

Had she not been able to speak English well, it would not have mattered, as simply put the girl was smoking. A beautiful face, 21 years old, great natural the cup breasts, small amount of baby fat on her body.

Her skills on the washing mat and in blowjob were poor, reflecting her inexperience on the job. But she came alive as soon as I touched her pussy. After the uninspiring blowjob, I sat up, and got her to manipulate me by hand. Facing her while sitting up I lightly stroked her pussy. Moans began immediately that were exciting enough to me to almost make me lose it before we started. I was attracted enough by her that I decided to break my rule again, and ate her pussy. Sure enough, this was genuine wetness. On went the condom, and I went inside her. Cowgirl first and she started riding like she hadn't been on a see**k for several weeks instead of likely just several minutes. Switched over to me on top and then I did her from behind. She was open any style I wanted, with the only interruption being to lick her pussy again to bring about some wetness. We continued and stopped and then she passed out on the bed for five minutes. I let her rest, as by the clock in the room I thought we still had time. But the f**ing phone rang. I have to go she said. Wait, I am not finished. Give me finish. Okay she said with no complaints. She lubricated her hand and within seconds I was ready to blow. I re-positioned so I was standing above her with my penis between her breasts. I turned her face up to me, and released easily staring at her amazing breasts and a truly exquisitely beautiful face, moaning me to completion. She changed quickly after an even quicker shower and told me to make my own way out of the room. Also unusual.

I did and went to the lounge, sat down and got a drink. I then saw her walk into the room and go with another customer, without a lineup. So I guess this was a prearranged time that had truncated our time slightly. Mildly irritating, but not enough to put a damper on what had been a very good night.

I paid HKD1788 for this session.

I left the sauna at 3:20 am, got to the ferry terminal at 3:30, had to buy a ticket off a reseller for the 4 am ferry. I can readily say that hour of sleep on the ferry while it made its way back to HK was a very deep and pleasant one.

Overall, I paid a total of about 8600 in the saunas plus another 400 or so for taxi's and ferry, so 9000 HKD for the night. Maybe not the best use of money by any stretch but certainly a night filled with a good number of positive experiences.

Fellow punters,

Heading back to Macau soon, but on my last trip out I didn't partake of the combo ferry ride / sauna combo since I was in such a rush to check the place out and couldn't find these places when I purchased my ticket. I've read some recent reports, but I'm still trying to figure out which one offers the best package of sauna & included ferry. Any suggestions?

Also, I see quite a few posts about just staying the night in the spa, but is this really worth saving the bucks to get a decent sleep? I stayed in a hotel last time & called out for company and it worked out well.

Thanks for any info!

[QUOTE=NoodleMan8;1671183]Fellow punters,

Heading back to Macau soon, but on my last trip out I didn't partake of the combo ferry ride / sauna combo since I was in such a rush to check the place out and couldn't find these places when I purchased my ticket. I've read some recent reports, but I'm still trying to figure out which one offers the best package of sauna & included ferry. Any suggestions?

Also, I see quite a few posts about just staying the night in the spa, but is this really worth saving the bucks to get a decent sleep? I stayed in a hotel last time & called out for company and it worked out well.

Thanks for any info![/QUOTE]Frankly, I do not know a lot about the packages offered, although I have used them on occasion. There is certainly some cost saving when using a package, but it is difficult to compare across saunas. I would suggest approaching it by sauna choice first, and then trying to take the best package for that sauna. Different stores in the ferry terminal in the Sheung Wan MTR / ferry terminal offer packages for different saunas.

Sleep is fine in the saunas, even in the lounge chairs, particularly with the elimination of smoking in most saunas. The rooms will vary, but Familia Nobre, for example, offers a quiet no frills room, in which one should have no trouble sleeping, particularly after enjoying a few hours in the sauna.

Hey punters,

I am visiting Macao for the first time for 3 nights form 25th till 28th of this month. I want to visit 3 different saunas, one each night. I have decided on FN (best reviews here I guess) and Rio (expensive but grand). I am still not able to decide on the third one. Should it be East or Sanado or Emperor? Please help me guys. I will be staying at the Venetian. I know that's a bit off but have to stay there for the casino and the restaurants.

Cheers,

ARaddict

[QUOTE=AsianArAddict;1672089]Hey punters,

I am visiting Macao for the first time for 3 nights form 25th till 28th of this month. I want to visit 3 different saunas, one each night. I have decided on FN (best reviews here I guess) and Rio (expensive but grand). I am still not able to decide on the third one. Should it be East or Sanado or Emperor? Please help me guys. I will be staying at the Venetian. I know that's a bit off but have to stay there for the casino and the restaurants.

Cheers,

ARaddict[/QUOTE]Depends on what suits your preference. If you like newer facilities and cosplay then suggest East Castle Spa. For a larger lineup then eighteen is worth checking out. Theres definitely lots to explore and sample, you may want to try out multiple places in one night if the schedule fits. Personally I would do eighteen if the lineup hasnt deteriorated much, because Rio has nice facilities and neither Rio or FN have a particularly large lineup as eighteen. But you got the first two right, happy punting.

You should also consider the Grand Emperor!

[QUOTE=AsianArAddict;1672089]Hey punters,

I am visiting Macao for the first time for 3 nights form 25th till 28th of this month. I want to visit 3 different saunas, one each night. I have decided on FN (best reviews here I guess) and Rio (expensive but grand). I am still not able to decide on the third one. Should it be East or Sanado or Emperor? Please help me guys. I will be staying at the Venetian. I know that's a bit off but have to stay there for the casino and the restaurants.

Cheers,

ARaddict[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Koalie2001;1671992]
Sleep is fine in the saunas, even in the lounge chairs, particularly with the elimination of smoking in most saunas. The rooms will vary, but Familia Nobre, for example, offers a quiet no frills room, in which one should have no trouble sleeping, particularly after enjoying a few hours in the sauna.[/QUOTE]Between FN and 18, which is the best for sleep? I'll be in Macau in June for 1 night, and I would like to sleep in the sauna.

[QUOTE=NoodleMan8;1671183]Fellow punters,

Heading back to Macau soon, but on my last trip out I didn't partake of the combo ferry ride / sauna combo since I was in such a rush to check the place out and couldn't find these places when I purchased my ticket. I've read some recent reports, but I'm still trying to figure out which one offers the best package of sauna & included ferry. Any suggestions?

Also, I see quite a few posts about just staying the night in the spa, but is this really worth saving the bucks to get a decent sleep? I stayed in a hotel last time & called out for company and it worked out well.

Thanks for any info![/QUOTE]To Noodleman8.

You can buy different package at the ferry bld in HK for many sauna they will offer you free round trip ferry ticket, you can buy the cheapest package and you can upgrade service at the sauna by paying more mop there, but the package is no refund if you decide to pick another sauna, I sleep in the sauna lounge chair all the time without any problems, hotel in Macau is expensive 100 usd a night and up but if your company paid stay in the hotel.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1672769]To Noodleman8.

You can buy different package at the ferry bld in HK for many sauna they will offer you free round trip ferry ticket, you can buy the cheapest package and you can upgrade service at the sauna by paying more mop there, but the package is no refund if you decide to pick another sauna, I sleep in the sauna lounge chair all the time without any problems, hotel in Macau is expensive 100 usd a night and up but if your company paid stay in the hotel.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Thanks Fast Eddie, much appreciated. I stayed at the Emperor Hotel last time and had a great time at the sauna there, although sleeping in a chair for more than a quick nap seemed like it may be difficult. I may just opt for the hotel again just so I can get a few restful hours sleep before going back out.

I booked the Metropark this time, so hopefully it's not a let down for the price.

Definitely going to try FN first this trip and then I'm leaning towards the East Spa or Rio. Whatever seems to have the best selection for the best prices.

I'll be sure to post my reports once all is said and done. Happy hunting all.

[QUOTE=NoodleMan8;1673337]Thanks Fast Eddie, much appreciated. I stayed at the Emperor Hotel last time and had a great time at the sauna there, although sleeping in a chair for more than a quick nap seemed like it may be difficult. I may just opt for the hotel again just so I can get a few restful hours sleep before going back out.

I booked the Metropark this time, so hopefully it's not a let down for the price.

Definitely going to try FN first this trip and then I'm leaning towards the East Spa or Rio. Whatever seems to have the best selection for the best prices.

I'll be sure to post my reports once all is said and done. Happy hunting all.[/QUOTE]To Noodleman.

I stay at the Metropark 10 yr ago is ok just a low cost 3 star hotel with tiny room, you can get deal on hotel room on weekday at the same place you get the package in HK I saw they have special at the Century hotel for 480 hkd a night room there is large free shuttle to ferry terminal, if you never been to East spa the pool show is a must Rio have better looking girls.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1673731]To Noodleman.

I stay at the Metropark 10 yr ago is ok just a low cost 3 star hotel with tiny room, you can get deal on hotel room on weekday at the same place you get the package in HK I saw they have special at the Century hotel for 480 hkd a night room there is large free shuttle to ferry terminal, if you never been to East spa the pool show is a must Rio have better looking girls.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Thanks again for that. I'll just have to stretch my day a bit to catch all three! I checked for a Century Hotel, but all that came up was the Novotel Century in HK at about 251 US per night. Do you have a link you can share for the one you found?

[QUOTE=NoodleMan8;1673799]Thanks again for that. I'll just have to stretch my day a bit to catch all three! I checked for a Century Hotel, but all that came up was the Novotel Century in HK at about 251 US per night. Do you have a link you can share for the one you found?[/QUOTE]To NoodleMan.

It is The New Century hotel at Taipa you should able to book a room at Agoda or from a travel agent in HK ferry terminal or in Macau.

Fast eddie 48.

A lower priced clean hotel is the Sintra Hotel. It is very centrally located between the Grand Lisboa and the Grand Emperor. Walk in rated are under $1,000 HKD, online rates even lower.

[QUOTE=Quimper;1667444]I kept an ear-bud case along with my phone; I also saw people using a Ziploc baggie type thing. You can also go back to your locker at any time. Very important: if you decide to bring cash in do not make trouble for the girls by attempting to hand them cash in public, even as a tip. It will only cause problems for the girl with management and her colleagues.[/QUOTE]Thanks, noted. Will arrive Macau tomorrow and see the things with own eyes finally.

Familia Nobre. Manicure, pedicure, 1 thigh massage, 1 session with Chinese girl and some noodles from paid menu. Total MOP 2156 and about 3 hours spent. I don't want to write an extensive report as this matter was pretty much covered by other mongers. Only I can say WOW about their girls. Every time I saw them passing in line near me for some customer I could not do anything but just stare at them with big stupid grin. The only time I saw such beautiful line up was in Pimp Club in Bangkok but those girls were hostesses and they would not have sex with a customer unless in a rare case. I was expecting to get some bill at the end close to USD 500 but MOP 2156 is in my opinion really good deal for what I got. The girl I chose for FS was just stunning. The only complain is that she was too active, moaning loud and moving too fast so I lost concentration several times. Had to calm her down 3-4 times to keep my favorite position and race and it was slightly annoying. Anyway, going there again today.

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1659797]Personally I love getting the points. Always makes me smile when thinking about it later, even paying the bill. Can't say that about most credit card bills. For reference FN shows up as Sauna E Massagem Familia Macau MO and 18 shows as HOU WAN LOI enter. CO, LTD. Macau MO.

One tip though, I didn't have this problem last year, but going back and checking receipts this year even though I selected to be charged in pataca's they charged me the USD which was on the slip and was not a very good exchange rate. Still only talking about $20 or so, but is annoying. I would just make sure to tell the cashier next time to charge in local currency.[/QUOTE]Follow-up to my previous post. I was in FN again in January and was very specific when checking out about being charged in MOP but yet again they billed it in USD. After 4 instances I was starting to get get annoyed and did the math and the difference totaled $64 USD. Not a lot but still that's like 1/2 a 2 hour session with cab far and tip for a girl from Houva. So I keep excellent records and had the receipts and called the CC company. Given the amount and my standing they decided to just give me the credit outright so least I go my money back. But be forwarned at FN either use cash or be extra careful. Can't recall this being a problem in the past and hasn't been an issue at other sauanas or soapies in BKK.

This was my 4th visit to Macau. Definitly one of my favorite spots along with Bangkok. The two are very different and I feel like when I get to visit both in a trip I have covered about everything I can ask for. Last 2 times I stayed at the Conrad since I had free night certificates and Hilton gold status. The service there is impeccable and they have been offering a points and dollar rate of about 500 HKD which with the status upgrade I have had suites at least 1200 M large for only $70 USD a night. Makes the extra taxi fare easily worth it.

So only had two nights transiting back through and was really hoping to reconnect with a great girl at 18 from Harbin China I met in November. November was my first time at 18. Place is smaller than I had expected, I would say about the same seating area as FN, larger pool area, and larger restaurant. The girls that dress you into your robe hit you hard for tips, and they really don't do anything so this I thought was a bit off putting. Then even after giving them 25 hkd, they push for more. Anyway lounge area is pretty standard as any other place. They call showtime and everyone shuffles to the pool. Girls are brought out and paraded around much like RIO so plenty of time to look. Now where 18 shined was the vast number and selection. Think it was a Sunday night and we are talking around 100 girls all in. I chose a tall chineese model with a bunch of tattoos that just said bad girl to me and boy was that a great choice. Girl was from Harbin China (only reason ever heard of that was a No Reservations episode). Not much English but enough and had a terrific time with her. Just great sex all around, and she was my first squirter which I was awesome as it just happened in the moment. Made the huge mistake of not asking her for her number and will pay for that later. Had 1 or 2 massages and total was about 2600.

So 18, round 2. Saturday night this time and place is packed. Good think I am running solo otherwise no chance at finding 2 seats together. So many punters in fact they are filling all the chairs at the restaurant in between shows and some just standing around. I understand profit maximization, but they honestly should have cut it off at the door or started offering discounts to get more guys to take girls to the rooms. Got settled in a chair and girl came by and got a foot massage, then here friend sorta forced a thigh massage on me before I could object. It was ok, but out in the open and not relaxed at all just wasn't doing it for me, but she was cute enough so can't complain too much about a cute girl rubbing your junk. Went to 2 -3 shows hoping to find my Harbin girl from November, but it was not to be. Now the selection was so big this time they could barely fit all the girls in the pool area stretched the whole way around. I would guess around 150 working. The punters are packed on every inch trying to see the girls. So after spying a couple cuties for at least 2 shows who seemed to be smiling and laughing chose one. Got shown to my room and here is where it went downhill. First waited in the room at least 15-20 min with no one coming by, was actually about to get dressed since I thought that maybe they forgot about me when she comes in. Not that friendly, not much English, but I am used to that so it's never been a problem. She seems hurried from the start, weakest table shower ever. Literally I think I could count the washing movements total along with the body slide and its less than 20. Ok I am thinking the shower isn't her thing no problem. Stay positive. Back to the bad very little playfulness or flirting. After a pretty weak BJ on with the cover and she gets on top. Now she is dick scared and neither faking it well or trying to get through it. Honestly a couple more positions and I just want to get out of there just getting no satisfaction from it. Managed somehow to get off and was happiest to be done and headed back to lounge. Total time with girl in room under 30 min. Absolute worse sauna experience ever. Total damage about $3,100 MOP and a relative waste of an evening.

Now of course every girl and situation at a place is different and there are winners and losers all the time. But even on some of the weaker performances I have had in a sauna, nothing compared to this. For the price I simply expect better. FN is my go to, and will continue to be my top choice. Day 2 report to follow. Just wish I had asked the girl for her number in November, total fail.

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1680092]Follow-up to my previous post. I was in FN again in January and was very specific when checking out about being charged in MOP but yet again they billed it in USD. After 4 instances I was starting to get get annoyed and did the math and the difference totaled $64 USD.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I visited FN 4 times last week and they billed in MOP always. Probably my luck.

Not much new to report here, but a few points that might be of interest.

Back in Macau for a day on the first Sunday in February. Arrived from Hong Kong at about 4 pm, taxi to Sofitel hotel and then the two block walk to Darling.

Lineup had about 20-30 girls, most Chinese, some Vietnamese and a few Thai. Given the type of service usually given in Darling, nice to found a girl with a good rack. Saw a sexy 30 ish Thai girl, nice set of silicon breasts. I selected her, luckily, great sexy face when standing close to me. Paid 1700 HKD and went to the room. When we were walking to the room, she said '2 girls'. The idea was planted and once in the room and half disrobed, I said sure, who is the second. We went out and she showed me number 18.18 is Thai and older and bigger than her, but with a great pair of '-F-' cups. Not normally my type, but also not one to turn down such a great set. I said yes, paid 1200 HKD for the extra girl, and into the room for 75 minutes of play.

They ran the water in the tub, and gave me a quick back massage before flipping me over and starting directly into the action, while the tub filled. Even pre-wash they were comfortable to double blow me, great sight to see both of them simultaneously licking my dick, an action which they repeated numerous times during our session. Into the tub, big girl and F-cups behind me acting as a pillow, while the sexy Thai girl cleaned, stroked and sucked me. Soon to the bed, and gave it to the big girl first dog style, while the sexy Thai girl stood beside me, held me, offered her breasts for play and did a great job of teasing and tempting while I banged her friend somewhat mercilessly. Big girl tired, switch to the sexy one, similar action for 10 minutes, rest and let them play and blow me, then I go at the sexy one again, but this time, with her large breasted friend sitting on the bed and her head buried in the big breasts while I did her from behind. They were more or less open to whatever position I wanted or what I wanted, leading with the great phrase, "tell me what you like". Phone finally rang, the girls did not jump to go, and patiently brought me to a finish with a handy / paizuri on the terrific breasts of the big girl.

Job down, exit from Darling and I make the 15-20 minute walk to FN. It is about 6:30 pm, and fairly quiet when I enter FN. The place fills slowly, with too many smokers unfortunately (or fortunately if one likes smoking). I had a girl offer me a foot massage which I took as a double time one, and then a hand massage. After this, a thigh massage girl (pink jacket smaller breasts) pulled me into a room, gave me the 20 minute warm-up, made me feel great, and ready for 20 minutes of some good hand action, which she spoiled by repeatedly trying to upsell me to 3 sessions with her, and offering to bring me to cum, even I told her a dozen times I did not want to come yet. The constant offers, and delays in her work, spoiled what could have been a good session.

Never mind, back to the room, and time for the line-up. Another great full line up, reinforcing the point that no place has better girls than FN. About 25 girls in the line-up and I almost went for a Columbian with a seriously round and sumptuous ass, when I spotted a 21 year old Vietnamese girl I had been with once before. For whatever reason, I selected her, and she was all smiles saying that she was happy I selected her and happy that I remembered her.

Into the room, a five minute wait while she grabs her things. She comes back, and gives a very quick body wash, which is great by me, so that there is more time in the bed. Short catbath (again good news, more time for serious action) and onto a blowjob that far exceeded what she delivered previously. Still plenty of time for action and I enter her and it sounded like a bomb went off. She's noisy and enjoying it fully, no BS in her actions or words, or if there is, congrats to her on being the best actress in the saunas in Macau. Some real choice words, she has a great vocabulary (I love to look at your muscles, it hurts but it feels good, your cock is too big (which it is not), you are wrecking my pussy but I don't care). I knew that 1 hour would not be enough, so I ask her if she would mind to extend the session. Ok she says, she calls, I confirm to the manager, and we get another hour of this for 1300 HKD extra. If the first hour was good, the second hour was great, much more GFE, much DFK, and the same kind of other action, as she permits me to do her however I like. Time closes, she comes, rests a bit, I remind her I need to cum, she asks how, I say blowjob and CIM, and she delivers no questions asked.

Great session, I get her number, and arrange to meet her outside after her work is done.

Before that, back to the lounge for a head massage and then time to exit FN.

Hot tub, shower and to the changing area. But just as I slip on my briefs, a half dozen clearly drunk Chinese (from Beijing) guys come into the locker room. They look at me (I'm still wearing nothing but my underwear) and I become the object of their curiosity. Out come the iPhones and they start posing with me (again I'm still mostly nude) for a bunch of photos. The photo session done, I get dressed and look over to the Chinese guys, who are now undressing and I see they are covered in very large back tattoos. With their occupation now revealed, it is likely good I did not say no to them when they asked for the photos.

Total charge HKD 3885, with the photos complimentary.

All MOP prices rounded up. Recently made my first visit to Macau. Made reservations to stay at the Rio Hotel. Unfortunately, I arrived 15hrs too early and a room was not available. The front desk sent me to the Rio Spa.

In order to stay in the Rio Spa for an extended period of time, one needs to have a massage with a model. The Rio has a tiered pricing system, with the top shelf models at 3500MOP or $438USD! By taking a model the entrance fee is waived.

The Rio Spa's facilities are top shelf. Marble everywhere. Beautiful place. Disrobed and given a large towel to wrap myself in. I walked into the gorgeous pool area, and one of the attendants sold me on a Japanese style bath. It was performed in a partition area of the pool. After the bath, I took a dip in the pool. Saw a gent getting a BJ in the bath area. Good to see extras available here. While in the pool area, a lineup was presented. A few of the ladies were attractive to me, but not at the 3500MOP range.

Got some food from the free menu, arranged with a floor manager for a private sleep room, and had a Chinese aka HJ massage. Masseuse is whoever is available. The massage was nothing memorable. The sleep room was where I received my massage, only a mat on the floor. Towels were used for covers. Not too comfortable, but I managed to get some sleep. I don't recommend sleeping in the lounge area due to noise. My overnight misadventure cost me $162USD.

The Rio hotel gives one a 10% discount to the Spa during ones stay. My room at the Rio was comfortable and spacious.

Late one evening, I went down to the coffee shop, a Filipina FL got on the elevator, (musta just got done with a session,) and offered to stay with me till the morning for 5000 MOP, or $625USD. :eek: After spending time in AC and Olongapo, no way I was going to pay that amount. When I balked at the price, she lowered it to 3000 MOP. She was all siliconed, T & A, kept priming while looking at herself in the elevator mirror. I can only imagine the poor performance she would give. But it was good to see that the Rio was GF friendly. On another evening, as I was leaving the Rio, two obvious SW accosted me. Their services were declined.

Familia Nobre:
Got to FN at 8p one night. It's walking distance from the Rio. Good to see that it's next door to the Civil Police HQ. FN's is located in an old building, and it facilities are also old. But it makes up for it in price and talent. The top shelf model are priced at a little over 2500MOP or $312USD, the lower level Asian models are 1700MOP or $212USD. By taking a model the entrance fee is waived, and a foot massage is included. I liked FN's line up, much better than the Rio, IMHO. There were several ladies I liked.

While having something to eat, saw the lineup several times. Settled into the lounge area, and was set upon by an older foot massage lady with very strong hands. Soon another massage lady appeared offering a back massage. I passed. I was more interested in a thigh massage, but did not see any.

With the help of a floor manager, a thigh massage with Phon was arranged. (Only two massage ladies were on duty at the time.) Phon is a very attractive VN who has appeared in previously reports. Phon did her job well and had me ready. I had to wait to make my selection, as at 11p they were putting on a show. Glad I did not miss this.

All the gents that were ready for a massage were seated in the lounge area nearest the dining room. Waitresses placed wet wipes and mouth wash on the stands next to the lounge chairs. Soon the Asian models appeared and stood in front of the gents. Lights were dimmed and music started. The ladies then began a body on body rub. Music stopped and the ladies rotated, (they rotated after each song.) Second round was a lap dance. Third round: ladies tops and men's robes were undone, and a naked body rub was performed, tits rubbed on faces. Final round: Men's shorts pulled, wet wipes used to clean junior, and a mouth wash BBBJ was performed, (not to completion.) Now it was time to make a selection. After seeing the lineup many times, I knew who I wanted. Turns out she was an Asian model, beautiful, early 20's from VN with a bubble butt, just like I like. Got to the room, and started with a soapy massage, once into the main event, got GFE, PSE from her. We rocked each other's world. She made a LOT of noise :D She is the best of my SE Asian adventure, (so far.) (And after meeting her, I need to get to VN.) Afterwards she offered to come to my hotel and up to me as to amount. She wanted me to wait outside for her as her shift was ending. (I waited, but she failed to show.) I spent about 4hrs in FN, cost was $262USD. In hindsight, had I known, I would have overnighted in FN. Bills in both places were in MOP.

Many thanks to Natty Bumpo for his inspirational reports.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1681420]... (And after meeting her, I need to get to VN.) ...
[/QUOTE]FYI, Vietnam's a great place, tourism-wise (Hanoi and HaLong Bay, in particular), but in my experience a terrible place to find SW unless you really know what you're doing. You can usually find some nice Vietnamese working girls in the Wan Chai clubs. (And at a better price than at Macau's saunas.

Macau has quickly become one of my favorite places from the hotels, the history, the food, the hotels and of course the girls. I think I am still trying to roll back up my tongue from the first sauna I stepped into 4 trips ago. Despite there being other options available I had never sampled anything but the saunas. I was determined this trip to give Houva a try to see what was available for such a bargain (700-800). The Macau google maps.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?dg=feature&msa=0&mid=z5aBwDeJBhig.kX62ETO6WRao[/URL]

Is accurate, but it is a bit harder with the streets than you would think. Also be forewarned I don't know why but google maps on the iphone is all jacked up for macau. Had two different phones over two years and the location is never close. Oddly apple maps works fine. Made it to location a bit before 4. Mamasan welcomed me and had me sit and brought a bottle water. English was limited, but fine she explained the price and brought out 3 Chinese girls. I would say there were about 5's and after being spoiled at the saunas they just didn't do much for me. I passed and next she brought out 3 viet girls. The viet girls were more 6/7's and cheaper as well at about 700 mop. Now here is where I wasn't sure what to do, I had gotten spoiled at seeing so many girls to select from and it looked like there were a lot more sandels so more girls, but didn't know how to approach that. So chose a nice little thing, tiny but with a pretty smile and nice bolt-ONS. Paid and we jumped in a cab back to the hotel, mamasan was sure to mention about cab fare back, and that seems more than fair to me. She was real winner good solid GFE for 2 hours. I really didn't think I would be able to finish round 2 and had just about given up when she jumped on CG and seriously earned her tip. Gave her a 180 to cover cab and tip and she seemed quite pleased. Should have asked her for her number or wechat I'd, don't know why I keep forgetting to do that in case it comes in handy later. Houva is definitely on my list for daytime action with darling now.

Later in the evening headed back to FN, take a cab to either Starworld, MGM, or LE Arc for closest drop off locations. FN is my raining favorite of all the saunas. Selection is always good even when smaller, service is consistently good to great and prices are better than anywhere else. Was with a couple of local buddies who had actually never been there so the white boy was leading the two Chinese around, odd role reversal. I like being able to check out the girls while others are getting lineups, in particular the opportunity to make eye contact while they are walking by to give me some ideas before I get my lineup. Got some massages and a pedicure then chose a nice slim Chinese model that had nice tits. Even better when back in the room turned out they were real, fabulous, and some of the softest breasts I have ever had the pleasure of handling. She had limited English so used google translate on our iphones without a problem. Standard table shower and a nice fire ice BJ. On with the cover and worked real slow so she could get used to the size but had a nice session with those terrific breasts and multiple positions. Unfortunately no GFE which is totally hit or miss in the saunas, so I will just have to keep up the search. Stuck around for a few more massages and considered a 2nd round which gets a 500 MOP discount, but didn't have the energy. FN delivers again, total damage 2597 MOP.

Hey guys, I have been enjoying the recent quality sauna reports posted here. It is great to hear the latest info on my favorite places just as I am starting to pack my suitcase for my 2015 trip. Thanks Michael, Koalie, and Java Man.

As usual I will be laying over in Macau for 5 nights on my way from BKK to the PI. After 4 weeks in BKK, Macau will be a GREAT change of venue and serve as a transition from LOS to Filipina land. Rio won best line up and best performance by a Chinese model in my 2014 Bordello Awards, LOL, so I will start my Macau 2015 quest there. Then I will move on to Familia Nobre on my 2nd night. I really like the girls and the vibe at FN.

After that I remain open to various possibilities and I will just see what I feel like doing. East Spa always ranks high on my must visit list, but I may decide to check out East Castle, their new emporium, on this trip. And based on recent reports, thanks again guys, I have a desire to check out Darling 1 in their new home at the Masters Hotel. I just hope they have a few cute Chinese girls, with natural ta ta's, for me on the roster. I am not a fan of silly cones.

And if I follow this course of action and I am not sure I will, it will leave me with one last night to do whatever I want. I have heard some good things about the One Sauna at the Landmark and would like to check it out and I also like the idea of taking a girl out of Hou Va, but knowing how I usually swing in Macau, I will probably choose to go back to the place where I had the best time the previous 4 nights. That is the trouble with Macau if you can call it trouble. Macau always leaves me wanting more and there is never enough time to go everywhere I want to go in 5 nights, unless I take a tip from Koalie's playbook and start visiting 2 saunas a night ... Uhm, now that is an intriguing idea, but I will have to see if my libido is up for it. I hope it is. I fondly remember few years back, I took the same Rio girl out of the lineup 2 times in one night. She was a great girl in every way. We dispensed with the preliminary B2B and cat licking in the 2nd session and just went at it. It was a memorable night.

I can't wait for Macau 2015. I can't wait for Asia 2015. The final countdown has begun.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1681776]As usual I will be laying over in Macau for 5 nights on my way from BKK to the PI. After 4 weeks in BKK, Macau will be a GREAT change of venue and serve as a transition from LOS to Filipina land.[/QUOTE]NB, maybe you can answer this.

Having never been to Macau I would like to layover for a few days.

However, I abhor having to have sex in massage places. Sure, its fine if I'm up for a massage as I might as well get full serviced in the same session but I don't want a massage every day and would much rather take them to my hotel and skip the massage.

Besides escort services, can I stop into any of these places and take something out?

Quick question, there's a flight I'm considering that'll arrive in HK at 12:30 am. Does that still give me enough time to get to Macau, one of the saunas, and still be able to view a near full lineup?

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1681780]Having never been to Macau I would like to layover for a few days. However, I abhor having to have sex in massage places. Sure, its fine if I'm up for a massage as I might as well get full serviced in the same session but I don't want a massage every day and would much rather take them to my hotel and skip the massage. Besides escort services, can I stop into any of these places and take something out?[/QUOTE]Rjsss, I think Macau just might not be your kind of place. Sure there are Escorts, FL's and SW's, but I believe you will find better pricing and better selection of those types of goodies elsewhere like in BKK, Pat, and Geylang. The saunas ARE the reason to come here. So if you truly "abhor" sex on premises and are not willing to give the Saunas a try, I think it is probably best for you not to visit Macau.

Now that said, I want to add that the saunas are pretty fantastic and if you can overcome your reticence, you just might end up enjoying yourself here. Think of Macau Saunas as high end Men's City Clubs and places where you can relax, be pampered and well taken care for 3 or 4 hours. It is more all encompassing and feature laden than BKK Soapies. The Macau establishments have saunas and swimming pools, computers, Wi-fi, and restaurants for their customers. They offer up various legitimate massages, ear cleanings, and manicure / pedicure services. For you, I highly recommend East Spa. There, you can select a top quality Chinese girl after an interesting interactive ShowTime and your girl she will escort you to one of East Spa's high class private rooms which are on cordoned off floors of the Waldo Hotel. Thus the rooms are the same as a deluxe Waldo Hotel room and are very comfortable and high end. You will have input on the services your girl will provide and you can skip anything you don't want although I highly recommend the rim jobs and fire and ice BJ's.

On the question of take out from a Sauna: Yes it is possible. First, money talks in Macau and I am sure that many high rollers simply call up a sauna, speak to the manager, and request 4 or 5 girls delivered to their hotel suite. I am also sure that the cost of this service is prohibitively high for most of us mere mortals starting at around $500 per girl per 1 or 2 hour session. Second, on a more cost effective basis, it is possible to arrange a "date" with your sauna girl after her shift ends. I have done so with a few horny sexy Vietnamese girls who were very willing to meet me in my hotel room later and spend the night or what was left of it. I have so far not been able to bridge the communication gap with the Chinese Sauna girls sufficiently to arrange a hookup later after their work shift. I am sure this is possible if you speak Mandarin and it is one of my goals of my next trip to accomplish this feat. To that end, I plan to bring my Moto X 2nd generation with me into the Saunas so I can try out Google Translate and WeChat on these Mandarin lovelies. But the point is, you have to first go to the sauna and have a session with a girl before you can arrange any extra curricular outside activities with her.

So my advice is schedule a 2 day layover in Macau, overcome your reticence, and give the Saunas a try. The experience is well worth the effort and I can't imagine you not having a good time. Macau has the best selection of beautiful Chinese girls anywhere. That is why I come here. And they do such wonderful naughty things. I love it.

[QUOTE=Shimano;1681921]Quick question, there's a flight I'm considering that'll arrive in HK at 12:30 am. Does that still give me enough time to get to Macau, one of the saunas, and still be able to view a near full lineup?[/QUOTE]Macau never sleeps. It is the best city in the world to get over jet lag. Many times I have been sleepless and headed out at 4 or 5 in the morning to get some great BBQ pork and wonton soup. There are always plenty of gamblers still going at it at this late hour and I always spot a few SW's hanging around too. The saunas are open 24 hours a day. The Sauna prime time shift begins around 7 pm and runs until 3 am. It is best to go early around 8 pm when the girls are at their freshest, but look carefully at the girls body language and you can find girls that have not been selected thus far into the night. Happy hunting!

This forum was a great resource for understanding the system in Macau so thanks to all the previous posters. Of all the ISG country forums I have read I think this one has the highest density of useful info!

Macau:

This was my first trip to Macau. Great little city. Hilarious blend of European, Chinese and Vegas! Enough sites to keep you busy for a day or two. Very walkable and I didn't take a single tax during the two night trip. Spent the first night at Familia Nobre and the second night at the Lisboa. I really enjoyed the Lisboa as the room and hotel in general captured the vibe of Macao!

Familia Nobre:

I took the ferry over from Hong Kong and walked over to Familia Nobre (30 min walk). Thought it would be nice to stretch my legs before camping out in a sauna for 18 hours. I arrived about 5:30 PM and the shower and main room were relatively empty. The facilities are ok but definitely showing wear. During my time there the staff was non-aggressive and very polite. English proficiency was pretty low. Fine for ordering food or requesting services but no real chatting with the servers or massage girls. Food was OK and Tsingtao beer costs about $4 USD per can. Most of the other patrons were Chinese and about half of those were smoking (despite the recent ban). I hate smoke but it honestly never got too bad although I would guess that a busier weekend night might be a different story. I don't think they had WiFi although I didn't ask the staff (didn't see a network). I mostly watched the Chinese TV or read my kindle book on my iPhone (King Rat if you are curious) while I was hanging out. They do have iPhone charging cords next to at least some chairs.

I spent most of my time in a chair near the corridor that the ladies walk down on their way to or from a lineup. Very useful for trying to get eye contact or a smile from them. I slept a solid 7 or 8 hours or so in one of the chairs that night. Not perfect but not awful for sleeping in. One of the attendants covered me with a big blanket at some point while I was asleep. I am sure this has been mentioned before but you get about $50 USD off any girl after the 1st. I also think you get two free massages if you choose a girl but not 2 free per girl (so I guess it kinda works out to the same price since the massages are about $25!

I had a foot massage, two shoulder massages, ear cleaning and a thigh massage. Most of the massage girls were pretty average looking although one of my shoulder massages was from a younger Vietnamese girl who was adorable. The thigh massage was meh honestly and I didn't see the value. Although with the right girl I would be happy to try again.

Lineup.

The lineup was pretty impressive. I was there on a Monday and early in the afternoon there were about 10 or so ladies that were coming out. Later in the evening there were probably 20 to 25. Majority Vietnamese (who I love), second biggest group were Chinese and then various model category from different countries. The non models wore red dresses that were quite attractive but not great for figuring out what is doing underneath. The 'model' group had no 'uniform' and several were wearing very revealing bra + thong with see thru wrap on top. In regards to 'model' vs Chinese / Vietnamese, I don't think there was any big difference in average hotness. Although, the best looking girl working was in the model group and she was chosen at least 4 times that night! The ladies seemed pretty upbeat especially early in the night and I got quite a few what looked to be honest smiles during my lineup. The manager said that you can get a lineup until about 7 AM in the morning.

Round 1.

About 8 PM I called for a lineup. The lady thought I only wanted to see the non-models for some reason but that was fine with me. I don't particularly like the lineup as I find it a little stressful. It is helpful to see which girls want to be chosen though. I picked a lovely Vietnamese (from Hanoi) lady who was smiling happily at me. She took me back to the room and then left to get her things together. Beautiful body and face but fake breast. Her English was OK but pretty limited. The rooms are pretty big with a shower table in one section and a pretty large bed in the other. After maybe five minutes she came back and we got to business. Followed the typical plan in the shower and then bed. No kissing but she was wonderfully tight. Snuggled ten minutes or so afterwards and I think she decided she liked me at this point. I commented on the Japanese porn on the TV in the room and she gave me a run down of her Japanese sex vocabulary (very funny). She was very fascinated with my blue eyes and seemed to think I could see in the dark or something (language issues).

Afterwards I was getting a shoulder massage from a Vietnamese girl and when the ladies were coming out she pointed out my earlier bed buddy and said 'you boom boomed her'. I was surprised as it had been a couple hours or so earlier and the place was slightly crowded at this point. I guess the girls gossip a little in the back.

Round 2.

Round two came about around midnight. There was one short, cute girl that was smiling and flirting with me every time they did a lineup. I got her number when she was walking past and gave it to staff (thereby avoiding the lineup). She came out to collect me and seemed happy to be chosen. She seemed honestly annoyed that I didn't chose her first. She seemed to dislike first girl I chose (Girl 2 was also from Hanoi) and asked how her performance was. Once I saw her up close she was a little older (maybe about 30) but still cute and thin with fake breast. Her English was pretty decent too!

This girl was wild! I think that working in a sauna is her dream job. Once she was ready to get down to business she looked up at me with a 'give me a kiss face'. I obliged and she shoved her tongue into my mouth. We take off our clothes and move into the shower. Very nice and the BBBJ towards the end was spectacular. She stands me up to wash off the rest of the soap. We start making out and after a few seconds she jumps back on the table and motions for me to provide DATY. I go at it and she is literally screaming. After a couple minutes she pulls my head up. She has a crazy look on her face and she literally grabs my package and tries to get me to do her on the massage table bareback. I am like 'noooooo condom first' and she looks a little disappointed but quickly calmed down and said that I was a 'good boy'.

Moved to the bed and had a really nice fire and ice BBBJ. Put on the condom and went back at it. Sex was crazy and awesome. She bit me twice. She said it was because I wasn't going hard enough! She asked me to extend another hour but I was wiped out and a little afraid of her. She gave me her number as we were about to leave. Anyway very memorable!

Had some more food and debated a third round that night. It was past 1 AM at this point and I was getting really tired. I eventually curled up in the chair and slept until past 10 AM the next morning.

Conclusion.

Had a great time with my first sauna experience. The total damage was about $500 USD which was pretty good considering I saved a hotel night and had a couple meals. I went to the Rio sauna the next night (FM experience was much better). I will probably post on it later.

Most of my P4P experience is in Japan and Macau compares well. Similar quality girls although Macau trends toward sexy while Japan is cute. Also, if you spend decent money in Japan you are pretty much guaranteed GFE with lots of very sweet kissing. Being able to see the girls in person ahead of time is really nice as this is really tough in Japan.

Hi guys,

I've read many a report about the thigh, foot, & shoulder massages in the saunas, do any offer back massages as well? If not, does anyone have any suggestions for a decent place outside the sauna? I plan on eating well & taking advantage of the saunas, I just know at some point I'll want to get myself a decent back massage also after walking around.

Thanks all.

N

I was in HK on my way to Beijing, and I wanted some free-spirited fun.

Macau is only 1 HR away from HK by ferry. They leave every 15 minutes during daytime.

Last time I had a great time at Rio (but a little pricey), so I decided on FN. Upon arrival, jumped in a shuttle for one of the main hotel, and from there, I walked to the Familia Nobre Sauna. Up the stairs, I was led to a locker room where I disrobed, handing my clothes to a male attendant. Received a wrist bracelet with a number (that's how they'll keep track of the services). He handed me a towel and I headed to the shower area.

The shower room is like in a spa, with hot water pools, sauna. The few girls attendants barely pay attention to the naked men around.

I took a shower, then another male attendant handed me over sized shorts and a robe, then guided me to the lounge, where I'm offered lunch and massages.

A cute Viet offers me a shoulder massage, but I tell her I want to eat first, while getting a leg massage (I couldn't get her back as she was busy later, so take it when you see it). A nice looking Viet MILF starts the foot massage as I'm being served with chicken wings, fries, and a wonton soup. Not fancy food but fair quality. She puts lotion on her hands and gives me a strong foot massage, perfect relaxation after the long trek through the metro and terminal tunnels. Then she sells me on a leg massage. She rubs her hands on my legs and thighs, reaching all the way up under my shorts for a little ball brushing. She casually asked me if I was going to go boom boom later! Of course I said, and she smiled.

I choose a cute little Viet in a blue miniskirt and white stockings for an ear massage / cleaning, she sits on the armchair, covers her skirt with a towel so I don't get any idea, and squeezes her feet under me. I just love this.

As she started a shoulder massage, I request to the attendant to follow this up with a thigh massage. My cutie then offers to have both girls at the same time in a private room. Sure! Once settled in another large reclining leather chair, she takes off my shorts and starts massaging my upper thighs and cock, while conversing casually in Viet with the shoulder massage girl. Little tease on my nipples, I tried to touch their breasts but no go, she offered a hand job but I told her I was going boom boom. It's a great warm up.

Back in the lounge area, time for the line up of 6 beautiful Viets 1700 HK ($150). Found out there's much more choice of nationalities and girls after 7 pm. I chose Mai, #707, a petite spinner with a kinky smile.

The room is nice with a large bed with adjacent shower, and Japanese porno is playing on the TV.

Mai is a good kisser.

She gives me a hot BBBJ ball massage to start.

She was horny and wanted to fuck, my finger slid right in, she was wet. I went down for DATY. She O'd.

She was still horny, covered me and we did some wild doggie, cowgirl, and mish to completion.

We talked a bit as she texted her friends. She's been here 2 months, staying 2 more then back to Vietnam. She asked which hotel I stayed in Macau, *told her I had to get back to HK, I'm sure I could have seen her after work, no problem. Told her I'll take her along with me during my trip, she said: Macau condom, travel no condom!

Total bill US $300, I was out by 7.30.

I found the total experience as good as Rio, not as luxurious but who cares, I'm here for the girls!

I took a little detour by the Lisboa for its famous race track downstairs: 20 hot Chinese parading back and forth. Too bad it's gone now.

Took a taxi to the ferry, I was back in HK by 10 pm.

(Trips back are often full. Reserve early or you'll get stuck until the 6 am restart.).

NB, thanks for the mention in your plans for upcoming tour.

Had final trip to Macau until June.

Went early and met a VN girl I know from one of the spas. Spent 8 hours with her. Awesome time especially if you remove from your mind the point that she will be back doing a bunch of other guys on the next day (including many readers here). Emotional end to the day, as she had to return home and I had to return to HK.

Not.

I had to go to East Spa. It was either East Spa or learn more about One, but I decided on trying a repeat at one of the best.

Wrong choice for this evening.

I arrived and started with thigh massage from an Indonesian attendant and a head message from a Cantonese girl. Both were fun to talk with (English to Indo and Mandarin to the Cantonese girl) and the head massage was particularly well executed.

Next was the line up. Very thin line-up, maybe 20 girls max as it was the Sunday before CNY. Only a couple of girls caught my eye, including a Japanese Kimino girl. Not wanting to fork out 3800, I selected 211, a Chinese girl with a decent set of breasts. Her face looked sour as soon as her number was announced. Had I known protocol (you can change your choice then and there, no questions asked), I would have done so. Still, I thought 'Rio' so should be ok. Went to the room. After she got her things she told me she does not like western guys because they are too big. I said OK, let's cancel. No she said, it is OK. Again, the sauna is OK if you chance the girl immediately after you enter the room.

She went to draw the bath and did not shut up. She talked endlessly about anything and everything, I felt like it was the running flow of conversation kept up by a doctor while they give you a general examine. Service was technically fine, but sexiness level was zero. Went to the bed, 60 seconds of cursory blowjob then one with a rubber. I tried to enter her (try is the operative word because I was not fully hard and she placed both hands on top of her pussy to limit penetration). Impossible to enjoy like this even in doggy or missionary. Five minutes max of trying, I pulled off the condom and threw it at the mirror (sadly it did not stick to the mirror, which would have been nice for dramatic effect), and quickly clothed and left the room.

I'm steaming at this point, and make my complaints to management. Fortunately, the head manager knows me well from previous visits, and I explained the situation. He was sympathetic, but there simple rule is, once the dick penetrates, you are subject to full charges. I said no problem, but I also think this is not the first complaint for 211 so I hope his place does something about her as Rio is too good a spa to tolerate BS service such as what she delivered. He offered another girl on discount and free lounger services, to his credit, and he was generally trying to smooth the situation, but I thought my best move was to get the heck out of there which I did.

So now it is 1:50 am, and I need to catch the 4 am ferry. I catch a taxi to Darling (so yes another two sauna night, but this was not the intent at the start of the evening). Line up was surprisingly deep but quality was pretty average. A few girls giving me nice smiles, but with all the BS of the night, I needed something different, so I selected an extremely dark Brazilian girl. As bad as my previous choice was, this choice was that good. Excellent service provider. Oral action would put many other girls to shame, and the substantial round booty on this woman, inspired some particularly vigorous doggy to the point where she told me to stop (emphatically) as her pussy was getting sore. At least my frustrations from earlier were vented. She finished me, I left the building, and managed to find a taxi to make it back to the ferry terminal in time for the 4 am ferry.

Sum of my experiences over the past couple of months in the Macau saunas: excellent, but only if I subtract out the times with the mainland girls. I do not know why, but the service I receive from them always sucks, and sucks in the wrong way. Other nationalities, much more consistent quality and vigor of service.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1682041]Rjsss, I think Macau just might not be your kind of place.[/QUOTE]I think you're right but I may stop in anyway.

Very well done and I appreciate your time.

Anyone have anything good to say about escorts?

Folks,

I am staying near the airport, what is the local name for the place where FAMILIA NOBLE SaUNA is?

Am not a local.

[QUOTE=Leche;1682912]I was in HK on my way to Beijing, and I wanted some free-spirited fun.

Macau is only 1 HR away from HK by ferry. They leave every 15 minutes during daytime.

Last time I had a great time at Rio (but a little pricey), so I decided on FN. Upon arrival, jumped in a shuttle for one of the main hotel, and from there, I walked to the Familia Nobre Sauna. Up the stairs, I was led to a locker room where I disrobed, handing my clothes to a male attendant. Received a wrist bracelet with a number (that's how they'll keep track of the services). He handed me a towel and I headed to the shower area.

The shower room is like in a spa, with hot water pools, sauna. The few girls attendants barely pay attention to the naked men around.

I took a shower, then another male attendant handed me over sized shorts and a robe, then guided me to the lounge, where I'm offered lunch and massages.

A cute Viet offers me a shoulder massage, but I tell her I want to eat first, while getting a leg massage (I couldn't get her back as she was busy later, so take it when you see it). A nice looking Viet MILF starts the foot massage as I'm being served with chicken wings, fries, and a wonton soup. Not fancy food but fair quality. She puts lotion on her hands and gives me a strong foot massage, perfect relaxation after the long trek through the metro and terminal tunnels. Then she sells me on a leg massage. She rubs her hands on my legs and thighs, reaching all the way up under my shorts for a little ball brushing. She casually asked me if I was going to go boom boom later! Of course I said, and she smiled.

I choose a cute little Viet in a blue miniskirt and white stockings for an ear massage / cleaning, she sits on the armchair, covers her skirt with a towel so I don't get any idea, and squeezes her feet under me. I just love this.

As she started a shoulder massage, I request to the attendant to follow this up with a thigh massage. My cutie then offers to have both girls at the same time in a private room. Sure! Once settled in another large reclining leather chair, she takes off my shorts and starts massaging my upper thighs and cock, while conversing casually in Viet with the shoulder massage girl. Little tease on my nipples, I tried to touch their breasts but no go, she offered a hand job but I told her I was going boom boom. It's a great warm up.

Back in the lounge area, time for the line up of 6 beautiful Viets 1700 HK ($150). Found out there's much more choice of nationalities and girls after 7 pm. I chose Mai, #707, a petite spinner with a kinky smile.

The room is nice with a large bed with adjacent shower, and Japanese porno is playing on the TV.

Mai is a good kisser.

She gives me a hot BBBJ ball massage to start.

She was horny and wanted to fuck, my finger slid right in, she was wet. I went down for DATY. She O'd.

She was still horny, covered me and we did some wild doggie, cowgirl, and mish to completion.

We talked a bit as she texted her friends. She's been here 2 months, staying 2 more then back to Vietnam. She asked which hotel I stayed in Macau, *told her I had to get back to HK, I'm sure I could have seen her after work, no problem. Told her I'll take her along with me during my trip, she said: Macau condom, travel no condom!

Total bill US $300, I was out by 7.30.

I found the total experience as good as Rio, not as luxurious but who cares, I'm here for the girls!

I took a little detour by the Lisboa for its famous race track downstairs: 20 hot Chinese parading back and forth. Too bad it's gone now.

Took a taxi to the ferry, I was back in HK by 10 pm.

(Trips back are often full. Reserve early or you'll get stuck until the 6 am restart.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ilovmuff;1687184]Folks,

I am staying near the airport, what is the local name for the place where FAMILIA NOBLE SaUNA is?

Am not a local.[/QUOTE]Familia Nobre, 249 Alameda Dr. Carlos the'Assumpcao, Macau.

I love Rio and I don't really care for the cost.

Stayed at the Holiday In (just few blocks away).

Checked in around 3 PM and called my local Indo GF (she is working at the Rio) as she was on her day off.

Quickly we took a shower and got to bed. There is nothing better than a real GFE.

Kicked her out at 6 PM and headed to Rio.

Shower again and scrub, then Dry Sauna and to the lounge.

Since I was not so horny anymore and I had a second date for late night I enjoyed the food and all treatments.

Ended up around midnight with a Thai massage.

Cost? 1500 HK $.

Had some sleep and at 3 AM I got a text from my Viet GF who also work at Rio.

She left after breakfast and I took the ferry to HK.

Guys, all girls at Rio and other places are willing to meet you outside at your hotel.

Be nice to them and ask for their mobile number.

Been back to Macau two times since my last report. And there's something really comforting about a place where you can just relax, take a schvitz, soak in a hot pool (with optional body rub and BJ), eat and then enjoy some female company.

Both times I saw my Viet girl that I originally met in a lineup at FN. She was super cute and bubbly, and sort of picked me with her eyes before I picked her. We had good chemistry and she came several times after I took charge the first session. Well, each time I've been back in Macau, she's made it a point to visit me after getting off work and going back to work. She'd come over, we'd catch up and then inevitably she'd be so horny we'd have an hour+ long sexcapade, and then she'd fall fast asleep while I worked, went to the gym, etc. Never once asked for money, though I've brought her nice gifts from abroad, and treated her to a nice dinner. I guess she really likes me.

Back in November, I was planning on trying East Spa in the Waldo hotel, but ended up passing by The One sauna in the Landmark. And thought, why not? I know the discussion here centers around only a few places: FN, D1, have, Rio, 18. But I was very impressed with The One. It seems brand new, the facilities are top notch (especially the pool area), and there's a large lounge area. The thigh massage girls are all very cute, and are mostly Chinese, with Viets mixed in. I don't know if I went at a slow time ( 6 pm), but there was no show or anything, but when I was ready, a manager brought me to a room where a private lineup was provided. I'd say the quality here was between 6-8, but more my type as they were mainly Chinese, all natural, and more girl-next-door feel. I selected a girl that seemed to make the eyes at me, and we ended up hitting it off in the room after some initial awkwardness that there always is. I think being able to chat in Mandarin helps put the girl at ease a bit. End up getting her info for future reference, and chat regularly. My new hobby is collecting these for outside establishment meetups, hopefully for more GFE. Also got the info for a really cute thigh massage girl whom I tipped a little extra to see her awesome tits. Took some convincing though.

This last time (about a month or so ago), I went over to East Spa finally. I wasn't too impressed by the facilities, and I was put in a pretty tiny lounge area. However, I will say, the main attraction was much more impressive (I splurged a bit on a Queen's bath, which includes a little leather dom outfit, some hot wax, and light cat o' nine tails). The girls here were a slight step up from The One, and mostly Chinese again but in the 8-9 category. Quite enjoyed the show where they do a little game (some lucky guy got to pretend doggy to break a balloon to win some service), and then the rotation where girls play musical chairs and you get to see them up close while they rub up on you, give a 60 second BJ, lap dance, etc. I picked a really spicy number from Sichuan who had the perfect body and a really cute face-- and she was playful in the room as well. Got her info, but she's a little less interactive than the others.

The highlight though was on my way out, I had a bite to eat, and there was a quite cute Viet girl from Hanoi who was the daytime server. Well, a few smiles, some chit-chat, and discreet inquiry, and I had her number. We met up later that evening, and long story short, ended up having a pretty hot time that night. She was incredibly horny and had great BJ technique. This one was a freebie. I treated her to dinner and drinks, but otherwise, no mention of money. Gave her a bit extra cab money as she had to work the next day. Taught her how to use WeChat on her phone and now we're in contact for next time.

No comment on costs, because I'm here to enjoy myself and it's too much work to try and squeeze out 100 HK here or there. I think all the places are pretty comparable and at the end I've rarely had a bill come to over $400 ish, and last time I went all out. Usually it's around $275 all-in, if I remember correctly.

Note on hotels: Emperor Hotel is so-so. I was slightly embarrassed for my freebie to come there (though there is a sauna on premises), Casa Real is decent but the gym is pretty sad, Hotel Lisboa was not too good, but good location (Grand Lisboa should be renovated). Hotel Royal was good but location wasn't, other than being walking distance to Hou Va.

Has anyone tried Metropark, The Landmark, or Rio? Any other good choices for a good value?

Next time, will try to visit East Castle Spa in Casa Real, Golden, and maybe see about refreshing my memory on 18 and Rio. I know Macau is not the cheapest place for all this, but it certainly works to treat yo'self!

[QUOTE=Quimper;1667444]I kept an ear-bud case along with my phone; I also saw people using a Ziploc baggie type thing. You can also go back to your locker at any time. Very important: if you decide to bring cash in do not make trouble for the girls by attempting to hand them cash in public, even as a tip. It will only cause problems for the girl with management and her colleagues.[/QUOTE]Be very careful with those zippy bag things they give you. They are NOT waterproof, as I learned the hard way. For some stupid reason, I decided not to lock my phone and watch in the little cubbies while taking my shower to leave, and water got in the bag. My phone was on the fritz and I turned it off immediately (iPhone 6). Luckily, after I aired it out for 36 hours, it came back to life on its own. If this happens, DO NOT try to turn it on again or charge it. Just dry it out. No hairdryer-- leave it out to dry, maybe in the sun if possible or with a breeze. Luckily Apple replaced my phone (for another reason).

[QUOTE=Pumpuixxl;1671133]Hi,

As a long time reader this is my first post, please forgive me that I start posting here with a kind of question.

In order to save the cost for hotel rooms during my (usually 2 3 days) trips to macau, I usually sleep in the saunas. My favourite place for comfortable sleeping was Sanado Sauna, but this was unfortunately closed. So I thought to put together a list of all possibilities where to spend the night in a sauna for sleeping (I mean sleeping in a bed for 6 8 hours from the early morning until noon, not just a short nap in the sauna lounge, but I saw some saunas also provide bedding in the lounge for longer sleeping in the early morning hours) may be helpful also for others.

Here are my own experiences, I would appreciate if others could add some information about sleeping in other saunas in order to make a more complete overview:

1. Sanado Sauna (one room with appr. 20 bunk beds, fresh, comfortable bedding, privacy ok due to thick curtains) = Sauna closed.

2. Familia Nobre (appr. 20 to 30 private rooms with single beds, 2 rooms with bunk beds, private rooms OK, bunk rooms quite uncomfortable due to missing or very hard mattresses).

3. East Spa Club (rooms with appr. 8 to 10 bunk beds, bedding OK, but noisy and no privacy due to thin curtains).[/QUOTE]I tried this for the first time (unfortunately at East Spa). It was awful. Worst sleep ever, everyone in the room was snoring, and the door kept opening letting in a lot of light.

If I need to do it again, will try FN.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1688724]Be very careful with those zippy bag things they give you. They are NOT waterproof, as I learned the hard way. For some stupid reason, I decided not to lock my phone and watch in the little cubbies while taking my shower to leave, and water got in the bag. My phone was on the fritz and I turned it off immediately (iPhone 6). Luckily, after I aired it out for 36 hours, it came back to life on its own. If this happens, DO NOT try to turn it on again or charge it. Just dry it out. No hairdryer-- leave it out to dry, maybe in the sun if possible or with a breeze. Luckily Apple replaced my phone (for another reason).[/QUOTE]Get something like this.

[URL]http://www.rei.com/product/874466/e-case-eseries-20-case-2013-closeout[/URL]

Works great in the saunas, at the beach, pool, lockerroom, and on boats. The iphone / ipad screens can also still be used when its zipped up BTW. An ipad size one has room for your phone, condoms, cash, ect. I picked it up after my first sauna visit and has served me well many times since.

Also in case you ever have a similar electronic problem again, put the phone / device in a bag with uncooked rice. The rice works as a desiccant and will absorb the moisture faster.

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1688884]Get something like this.

[URL]http://www.rei.com/product/874466/e-case-eseries-20-case-2013-closeout[/URL]

Works great in the saunas, at the beach, pool, lockerroom, and on boats. The iphone / ipad screens can also still be used when its zipped up BTW. An ipad size one has room for your phone, condoms, cash, ect. I picked it up after my first sauna visit and has served me well many times since.

Also in case you ever have a similar electronic problem again, put the phone / device in a bag with uncooked rice. The rice works as a desiccant and will absorb the moisture faster.[/QUOTE]Yep, picked up one of those for next time.

BTW in my frantic research during "watergate", I learned the rice trick is largely an urban myth. Doesn't do much and keeping your phone inside a Baggie prevents air circulation. If you have the little silica desiccant packs those work well in a ziploc.

[QUOTE=Zamziv;1687356]I love Rio and I don't really care for the cost.

Stayed at the Holiday In (just few blocks away).

Checked in around 3 PM and called my local Indo GF (she is working at the Rio) as she was on her day off.

Quickly we took a shower and got to bed. There is nothing better than a real GFE.

Kicked her out at 6 PM and headed to Rio.

Shower again and scrub, then Dry Sauna and to the lounge.

Since I was not so horny anymore and I had a second date for late night I enjoyed the food and all treatments.

Ended up around midnight with a Thai massage.

Cost? 1500 HK $.

Had some sleep and at 3 AM I got a text from my Viet GF who also work at Rio.

She left after breakfast and I took the ferry to HK.

Guys, all girls at Rio and other places are willing to meet you outside at your hotel.

Be nice to them and ask for their mobile number.[/QUOTE]Hi, when you are meeting WG out of the saunas, how much do they charge?

[QUOTE=Totos;1689379]Hi, when you are meeting WG out of the saunas, how much do they charge?[/QUOTE]I think it totally depends on the girl, and your rapport with her. I've experienced everything from:

1) No money expected (just some serious fucking with a place to sleep until her next shift, some gifts maybe and treating her to dinner etc), didn't even ask for cab money.

1 a) Non-WG (other staff at the sauna), no money expected, just some romance and a night out, ending in crazy sex (I provided cab money here).

2) Almost embarrassed to ask for something to come out, saying "up to you" (I have erred on the side of generous here, gave $200 USD).

3) Demanding 6000 HKD to even consider coming out (this was a pretty hot, and business-like sauna girl). She refused $500 USD.

I'm sure there's even more range to that-- I think it depends so much on your chemistry with the girl. If she really like you, she'd probably be willing to come out for little to nothing just for a change of pace and to be pampered a bit. Also some girls totally separate this life from their personal life, and approach it very professionally. #3 told me, 6000 HKD is nothing for all night since one hour with a model girl at a sauna costs 2000+ HKD, LOL.

I'm trying to Rio or Familia Nombre from the Cotai side, what is the best transportation? I have read that taxi could take a while. My hotel is the Sheraton Cotai, and apparently has some free shuttle to casinos? Maybe I can take a ride to MGM or Venitian and then walk? Great info here, thanks for everyone's insights.

Taxi is best option. Les than $10 us each way. Just take a card from hotel to give to driver on return. Language can be problem with the smaller hotels and the drivers.

[QUOTE=JeffZeke;1691255]I'm trying to Rio or Familia Nombre from the Cotai side, what is the best transportation? I have read that taxi could take a while. My hotel is the Sheraton Cotai, and apparently has some free shuttle to casinos? Maybe I can take a ride to MGM or Venitian and then walk? Great info here, thanks for everyone's insights.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JeffZeke;1691255]I'm trying to Rio or Familia Nombre from the Cotai side, what is the best transportation? I have read that taxi could take a while. My hotel is the Sheraton Cotai, and apparently has some free shuttle to casinos? Maybe I can take a ride to MGM or Venitian and then walk? Great info here, thanks for everyone's insights.[/QUOTE]Take free shuttle To Macau Ferry Terminal and then shuttle to Star World. Easy 5 min walk to Familia Nobre. Or take Rio Hotel shuttle from Ferry, cost 0. 00. Taxis are only necessary after 12 midnight really.

PC out.

Taxis are a problem right now in Macau, especially during peak hours. There is a shortage, and a lot of the driver are demanding a high flat fee. The normal price would be about 60-70 MOP (Macau currency) , but the flat rate would be at least 100, and maybe 150-200 on a weekend.

Also can English can be an issue, can you say Familia Nobre in Cantonese or Mandarin?

An easy way with a short walk, is the free shuttle between City of Dreams in Cotai and the Sintra Hotel in Macau. The Sintra is 1/2 block away from the Grand Lisboa. The shuttle runs every 10 minutes from 9 AM until midnight. The shuttle stop at COD is in the basement under the main entrance.

There is also a direct shuttle between the Galaxy and StarWorld, that runs about every 10 minutes. 10 AM to midnight. However the Galaxy is a 15+ minute walk from the Sheraton.

Hi all.

Have been to macau many times, but I'm struggling to remember the name of a sauna. Basically when taxis have taken me there in the past its a good 10 min drive from wynn. When you pull up. Walk up some steps and into a large building (usually a tout outside too). On the right hand side there are some lifts and it was on the 3rd floor. On the 4th floor is a older casinos which was in need of a clean and a facelift. In the sauna on the 3rd floor. It was more like a fishbowl setup, with all the girls sitting around the room, mainly chinese and vietnamese, plus a handful of CIS. Cost was about 1600-1700 iirc and in the room there was a jacuzzi where you would take a bath together and get a scrub and then the bed for action. Last time I was in macau, I was searching through maps and couldn't find the name of the sauna, and I've searched the forum high and low. Any ideas would be much appreciated (as the CIS girls were the best I had come across in all my trips to macau).

Thanks tiger.

Fairly sure you are talking about Darling at the masters hotel. Meets about the 10 min mark, 3rd floor as I recall, fishbowl, cost is right, and the large tubs in the rooms. In November the CIS selection was excellent.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1692718]Hi all.

Have been to macau many times, but I'm struggling to remember the name of a sauna. Basically when taxis have taken me there in the past its a good 10 min drive from wynn. When you pull up. Walk up some steps and into a large building (usually a tout outside too). On the right hand side there are some lifts and it was on the 3rd floor. On the 4th floor is a older casinos which was in need of a clean and a facelift. In the sauna on the 3rd floor. It was more like a fishbowl setup, with all the girls sitting around the room, mainly chinese and vietnamese, plus a handful of CIS. Cost was about 1600-1700 iirc and in the room there was a jacuzzi where you would take a bath together and get a scrub and then the bed for action. Last time I was in macau, I was searching through maps and couldn't find the name of the sauna, and I've searched the forum high and low. Any ideas would be much appreciated (as the CIS girls were the best I had come across in all my trips to macau).

Thanks tiger.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1692742]Fairly sure you are talking about Darling at the masters hotel. Meets about the 10 min mark, 3rd floor as I recall, fishbowl, cost is right, and the large tubs in the rooms. In November the CIS selection was excellent.[/QUOTE]Is that darling 1, or darling 2? Many thanks BTW.

Darling 1. I haven't been to 2 so can't speak as to its setup.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1693069]Is that darling 1, or darling 2? Many thanks BTW.[/QUOTE]

I've recently completed a 2 night stay in Macau, and had a great time mongering thanks to all the valuable information from contributors on this forum. I'd like to share my brief experiences from my visits to Rio and Familia Nombre. First stop was the Rio for me, since it was easy to get to and all the reviews here were excellent. I took a taxi from my Cotai area hotel, and the cost was $75 MOP, approximately $10 USD.

Arrived at the Rio and headed to the 5th floor, and as everyone has mentioned, the facilities are indeed very sophisticated and "high-end". There is someone to escort you around every corner, and then a male attendant helps you to your locker to store your clothes and other belongings. I was given a towel, and then guided pass the shower area. The next attendant immediately asked me if I was interested in picking a girl, as the lineup show was in progress. I walked to the swimming pool area, and there were about 20-25 girls already there. Their attire is reflective of where they are from, and most were Chinese with a few Vietnamese mixed in, along with one or two Japanese, who were wearing the traditional kimonos. There were about 10 other guys looking over the lineup and picking, with some of them chatting and commenting with friends they came with. Most of the dudes were Chinese. I have a difficult time choosing since all these women were quite attractive, and I was not use to this type of set-up. Eventually, the line-up selection time was over, and I picked someone but misquoted her number, and was eventually led to another private lineup in a living room / lounge area. As per advice from other mongers here, good eye contact was an important part of this selection process, and I ended up picking the girl who was basically eyeing me the whole time as well. In the room, the Chinese girl I picked seemed relieved that I spoke some Mandarin, and we immediately had a good conversation and ended up really clicking, much to my surprise. She was a young, petite Chinese girl from Hubei, who had a beautiful face, slim waist, and large natural see's. The bath was enjoyable, and we had a soapy full-body massage, along with body-to-body rub, and different variations of tongue massages on the back. She also provided some rimming, which was an unexpected surprise; this was not something I am particularly interested in, but it was fun nonetheless. There was also some nice BBBJ action, and then the cover came on, and we went through all the regular positions, including MISH, K9, ACG, and I ended with COB. We seemed to have clicked well, and she asked where I was staying and offered to meet me after she shift. My travel situation ruled out this option, but it certainly peaked my interest. All in all, a very pleasant experience from a high-end provider, and I would recommend Rio without reservations. Well managed sauna with all the amenities, and the overall price was in the 2500 MOP range, or a tad over $300. I went back the next night and hooked up with the same girl, and had a great time again. She gave me her phone and wei-bo chatline, so I guess she also felt like we clicked well. Too bad I live so far away in Texas, otherwise this chic would be good company for special occasions. Familiar Nombre review to following.

Sup fellas,

Just wanted to post my FR for my first time experiences in Macau. I didn't have a great experience in Vietnam, so I wanted to have another session with a Viet girl at one of the famous saunas in Macau. After reading a lot of the posts and reviews, I opted to go to Familia Nobre. At first, I thought it was pretty expensive, but having experienced it myself, it's worth its weight in gold. Unless you know where it exactly is, you may have a hard time finding it. I found some maps where they pinpoint the location, but they were all wrong. I eventually found it because of the large brightly lit neon signs. But I probably had trouble finding it because I had smoked some Mary Jane right before heading out.

A little background about myself, I'm an Asian-American. The Asian being half Vietnamese and half Chinese. I speak a tiny bit of Vietnamese. I am not fluent, but conversational in Cantonese. I walked up the stairs, and looked at the prices. They have gone up a little from the last picture of the prices, prices are higher Fri-Sun. One of the attendants there immediately brought me in, without asking me anything. They spoke to me in Mandarin (which I only speak a tiny bit of), and I told them I can only speak in Cantonese. The problem I've had is that if you speak can speak Cantonese, then you should know a great deal of Mandarin as well, if you are in China. But most Chinese who live overseas can only speak Cantonese. They tell me to take off all of my clothes, and it was kind of weird, but the attendants there were so cool and normal about it, that they must do it all the time. I mean they hang ALL of your clothes, including my underwear, which is weird. I wrap the towel around me and head to the Jacuzzi area. You must take a shower prior to getting into the Jacuzzi since everyone gets naked and shares it, it's a good idea. I wash my body, and then jump into one of the Jacuzzi in the back, I didn't want to share it with anyone else. Oh my goodness, it felt fantastic, the water level was high, great for soaking your entire body. The temperature hot and perfect to help you unwind. I must have stayed there for an hour. There was a pretty cute girl in a skimpy outfit walking around the area, I wasn't too sure what her purpose there was. I then dry off, and go take another shower. And head into the next room. A female attendant gives me silk shorts and a silk robe. It's orange and brown plaid, kind of ugly, but I don't care. It was weird that a woman was dressing me, and another woman standing behind her watching me. She takes a good look at me, at my junk, and my body, nods with an approving look, and gives me a slap on my ass!

I walk in and am greeted by everyone. I sit down in the first set of lounge chairs. A lady, who looks like a very dark version of Olivia Wilde comes to talk to me in Mandarin, I don't understand her. She tries Cantonese, but her accent is too thick, so she speaks to me in English. Offered a drink, I ask for watermelon juice. There were a few other guys in the lounge chairs, some look like they were just there to sleep. Throughout my time here, many different customers come and go. I wanted to relax for a bit, and get some pampering and massages. A really cute girl comes and asks me if I wanted a massage. She looked like she was thai, so I assumed she was offering me a "thai" massage, but she could have had a thick accent and asked me if I wanted a "thigh" massage. I thought she said Thai, and turned it down. I wished I got that thigh massage from her though.

There are about 4 different types of women who work here. The ones in lime green do the dirty work, and are all Vietnamese. They do pedicures, manicures, leg massages, and thigh massages. There's men and women. Many of them learned and can speak Cantonese as well. None of these girls were attractive, but they get the job done, and do it well. The next set of girls wear skirts, with white shirts and blue vests, they are decently attractive and do neck and head massages, with ear cleaning as well. Some of them are locals, some Vietnamese. Not sure if they do thigh massages, they offered it to me, but they could have been selling it for the green shirts. The last set are the "massage" girls, which I will talk about later. One of the cute girls comes and offers me a head and shoulder massage, I say yes. She's from Macau, and is fluent in Cantonese and Mandarin. She massages me for 30 minutes, and we have a pretty good conversation in Cantonese. I teach her some English as well. I have a thing about boinking local girls, and I think I could have boinked her if I asked, but I wanted a Vietnamese girl more. She was pretty pushy for me to get a thigh massage and to pick a girl from a lineup. It was Friday night and wasn't that busy, so I don't understand why they were trying to get me to rush. I've been watching all of the lineups they've been doing, and there are so many gorgeous women working here. The ugliest girl was probably a 7, and I have really high standards. I tell her that I wanted a foot massage, but all of the green shirts were busy. Eventually all of the green shirts make their way down to my end of the place. I start with a foot massage by an older Vietnamese lady (I'm assuming she's the infamous one everyone talks about), who also speaks Cantonese. She does a great job at the foot massage, but asked to do the thigh massage for me, but for a cheaper rate since she's already doing the foot massage. I agree, but I assumed it was going to be a professional thigh massage. This was not the case. She would work my thighs all the way up to my junk, and constantly brush my jewels and manhood. This was super uncomfortable for me. The fact that she was Vietnamese, older, and spoke Cantonese, reminded me of my mother or aunt. Ughhhh, not how I wanted to get ready. I think my penis went inside of my body to hide. I secretly moved my junk to the opposite side in which she was massaging, so she doesn't make contact with my junk. The massage was good though, when it wasn't sexual. When she brushed my privates, she looked away, avoided eye contact. Another green shirt offers me a pedicure, I agree, and one of the cute girls comes and offers me an ear cleaning, which I also agree. So I have all three women, working my feet, legs, thighs, and inner ear all at the same time. I was in absolute heaven. It was an incredible feeling, I swear my eyes rolled up into my skull so many times. By the way, the cute girls wrap towels around their waist to keep their skirts from getting dirty, not to prevent you from trying to cop a feel, which you shouldn't anyway. Unfortunately, the girl cleaning my ears made multiple comments about how much buildup was in my ears (have been on the road for a month, didn't bring q-tips) and about my inner thigh (war scars). I felt a little embarrassed about both and thought it was pretty unprofessional. Oh well, I got my money's worth and she earned her money. I was able to speak some Vietnamese to them, and had the rest of the conversations with all of them in Cantonese. All of the green shirts were laughing and impressed at my ability to speak broken Vietnamese.

I think I probably seen about 20 lineups of the girls in traditional red Asian dresses with short skirts and an open chest, and also 10 lineups of the "model" girls, who wear evening gowns. I got plenty of looks from the girls when I was getting massages. Even one of the black girls introduced themselves to me, but I wasn't interested. The Macau girl explained the pricing plan to me, the girls with the green tags were from Vietnam, and were 1700 MOP, but also the cheapest, although that's pretty expensive to what I'm used to, about 3 times the price. I didn't care about the pricing of the others / nationalities, I was intent on a viet girl. Once I was super relaxed and ready to go, I asked for a lineup of only Vietnamese girls. When they brought out the girls, the girls faced two guys who were sitting perpendicular to me, and the girls thought they were the customers who asked for the lineup. Being the young and handsome man, they naturally assumed I was too poor to afford the girls. I felt pretty snubbed by it, but this allowed me to weed out the presumptuous girls. Only two of the girls looked at me and thought I was the one who ordered the lineup. The first girl, 788, made strong eye contact, was beautiful, and was being flirty with me during the whole lineup. Looked like she had a great body. The other girl who looked at me, was also very pretty, and I considered a 3 some, but decided against it instead remembering how expensive it is. After making the pick, she goes to gather the materials for the room. Then she escorts me to the back, during this whole time, other girls who were free were being really fun and flirty during the walk to the room. Some grabbed my junk, and some others smacked my a $$. My goodness, they were all so beautiful.

Her name is Nga, from Hanoi. 24-27 (I forgot, but could be lying and be older, she looked late 20's to early 30's). No kid. She could speak Cantonese and Mandarin, conversational, not fluent. Very tall 5'7, thick body, and big natural Ccups with a nice booty. She unfortunately tied her hair up into a bun (she ended up looking Japanese), but I would have preferred her to let her shoulder length hair down. But for the service portion, it made more sense, as it looked like she was getting ready to go to work and to town on me hahaha. We start with a shower, and she cleans me thoroughly, giving me a soapy boob slide with my weiner in between in the shower. We head onto the bed, where the TV was playing Japanese porno. She had a cup of hot / really warm water, with I believe mouthwash in it. She does the typical Asian routine by working the nipples, and then moves slowly downwards, kissing every inch of my body. Felt great, like fish kisses. She then starts out with a BBBJ, but with a mouthful of the hot water and mouthwash. Holy crap, I can't describe the feeling, but it was amazing. The hot water felt really nice, relaxed my manhood, but the mouthwash left like a burning sensation on the head. It was like a feeling of pain and pleasure mixed into one. She then spits it out, and does a regular BBBJ, and back to the mouthful of the mixture. It was amazing, and one of the best feelings I've ever felt sexually. I couldn't believe I was inside of her mouth and being on the brink of ecstasy without feeling the need to cum. After 15 minutes, she puts the cover and gets on top doing Asian cowgirl. She rides me for a bit, while I grab her bottom, and cup her breasts. I then went to my favorite position of mish, and drill her while being on top. She's massaging my body the whole time, focusing on my nipples. I then blow my entire load inside of her from the powerful thrusts, until every drop is drained. She cleans me up, and then we lie there and cuddle for about 15 minutes (we sessioned for 45 minutes, you get 1 hour with the girl), watching a Cantonese show, while having a casual conversation. We then have another quick shower and she escorts me back, and other girls once again flirts with me. I wish I could session with everyone of these beauties. I decide that I'm fully relaxed, and had a great time, and am ready to leave. I ask to pay the bill, and I go back to the locker room where they ring up the bill and helped me back into my clothes. The flip flops that I was wearing was put back into the locker, without it being cleaned, which might not be hygienic.

I spent about 3. 5 hours there, it was 12:30 am, and being a degenerate, wanted to gamble afterwards at the Venetian. The bill was 2500 MOP, and it was one of the most relaxing and fantastic things I've ever done. I highly recommend it to any man who may be in the area. It's quite expensive, but it's the highest form of pampering for a man that I know of, and have experienced.

Nga:

Face: 8.

Body: 8.

Service: 8.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1696139]I wish I could session with everyone of these beauties. I decide that I'm fully relaxed, and had a great time, and am ready to leave. [/QUOTE]I had same feeling, all girls are very attractive but after the session I was so satisfied and relaxed that was willing only to return to hotel and have a rest, not in mood for exhausting sexual marathon and repeating with some other cutie. It is good that their service brings not only physical but also psychological relaxation.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1696139](war scars)[/QUOTE]Which war, if I may ask? Iraq?

[QUOTE=Melor;1696928]I had same feeling, all girls are very attractive but after the session I was so satisfied and relaxed that was willing only to return to hotel and have a rest, not in mood for exhausting sexual marathon and repeating with some other cutie. It is good that their service brings not only physical but also psychological relaxation.

Which war, if I may ask? Iraq?[/QUOTE]I felt the exact same way! It's a full relaxation, physical, mental, and spiritual.

No, Afghanistan. I've been to Iraq also.

Just got back from a day trip to Macau from HK.

Took the TurboCat from Kowloon to Macau (took about 1 HR), on arrival walked into Macau.

About 30 min walk to the Rio Hotel and went to the 5th FL.

Used the spa service for about 1 HR, every 30 min the "Show" begins and all the girls come out for a line up.

At 3 pm about 15 girls, ranging from 7 - 10.

I picked a girl that made good eye contact (thanks for the tip from this forum) she was from the mainland.

They took me back to show the different rooms, trying to up-sell the VIP rooms, I picked the standard room which was great.

Service from girl was great. As described in this forum.

Total cost was $2900 HKD. Not cheap but good experience.

So after have a good visit at Rio during the first night, I left and tried to "walk" to Familia Nombre with no success. I did not have GPS, and the vague directions I got didn't help. This was around 1 AM, but almost all the stores were still open. I eventually gave up and took a taxi back to the Cotai area and spent some time in the casinos. Lost about $5000 MOP within the hour on roulette and blackjack, and thought, WTF?! No fun at all, and I still had some time and definitely had another session in me, so I took a taxi to Familia Nombre, and made sure to tell the taxi "How Men" sauna, as suggested here on the forum (big thanks!) Arrived at FN, and went straight to the second floor, took a left, and an attendant escorted me in. Everyone has walkie talkies, and they try to make sure the entrance and exits were all done discretely, nice touch. Same routine, I was directed to a locker, stripped down and was handed a T-shirt and baggy shorts. Interestingly, I was also handed some form of paper underwear, as apparently these shorts are not frequently washed, and another layer may be good for hygiene, LOL. I was asked by a male staff if I wanted to see the lineup right away, and which tier, the regular tier, which was $1800 MOP poerr hour, or the model-tier, which was $2200 per hour. I went with the model tier, what the heck, might as well check out the top level. I went into a small room with sofas, sat down, and within a couple of minutes, out came about 12-15 gorgeous ladies, mixture of main-landers, a couple of Vietnamese, a couple of other Asians, and then a very hot Hispanic chic. It was a wealth of riches, and all were 8's, 9's, and 10's so quite honestly, I was a bit overwhelmed. I went with a tall Chinese lady with a nice looking face, and then everyone bowed to me, and said "thank you boss" in Mandarin. I was told to go to the general shower area, since it appeared all the rooms were full (so I showered for a few minutes, and then the lady I chose came to get me. Her number was 1013, and upon entering the room with her, I noticed a couple of things about her which deviated from my initial perception. She was attractive for sure, but not the super-skinny type, and was actually a little more curvy, in a nice way, but her wardrobe during the lineup was not as revealing. Also, her voice was very different, kinda low and raspy, which I did not expect. In the room, she noticed that I had already showered, so we just did a quick scrub down, and began the session with lots of mutual body message, caressing, and some kissing, mostly LFK. She seemed to be into it, but being the later hour (2 AM), she appeared a little tired, with a hint of slurred speech. And BTW, I'm of Asian descent, so I speak some conversational Mandarin. She also gave a nice but short BBBJ, and on came the cover for the main event. She was rather vocal and was uttering some weird Japanese phrases, don't know why, LOL. I was muttering some English, and she then switched to "fuck me, fuck me" in broken English. Anyway, I have her a mixture of hard pounding and slow deep thrusts in multiple positions, but the doggie was what she really liked, and after each round of hard pounding, I could feel her whole body and legs shake in spastic fashion, simulating an orgasm. I always have a hard time cuming with the condom, so she finished me off with HJ onto her huge breasts, all natural the's. We were only about 40 minutes into the session, and I was ready to wash up and leave, but she insisted I stay the full hour, as that was the policy. I would have left very satisfied, but she said she was not allowed to let any monger leave early, or she would get into trouble. So we just laid there for another 20 minutes, watching Japanese porno on TV, and she fell asleep in my arms within a minute. When the time was up, I checked out, got my stuff from the locker, and paid around $2300 or $2400 MOP, and left a happy man.

FN is a fun place for sure, and the strong reputation is well deserved. It definitely provides good value for those seeking more bang for the buck. In comparison with Rio, I'd say the facilities at Rio are significantly nicer, but of course you pay more there. Quality of women is comparable. FN is probably a larger facility, but they also seemed busier, more mongers. Amongst the mongers in FN, I saw much more international clientele, with several Indians / Pakistanis, and a few Caucasian dudes. Rio was predominantly Chinese.

Happy mongering to all, and I will post another message with notes and lessons I've learned in my two day experience in Macau saunas.

[QUOTE=JeffZeke;1698145]Her number was 1013[/QUOTE]Wasn't her nickname Lily by any chance?

[QUOTE=Melor;1698673]Wasn't her nickname Lily by any chance?[/QUOTE]No idea what her name was, I didn't ask. She was fairly tall, huge breasts. She admits to having worked at FN for over two years already, which took me by surprise.

So from my brief visits at Rio and Familia Nombre, I would like to share the following observations. Hopefully you may find some of them helpful.

- Facilities of both places are excellent. I like Rio being a little more upscale, but FN is also very nice, and the general lounging area with recliners is very nice in both places. A few large screen TVs there too.

- The staff usually makes some attempt to ensure you don't run into other mongers, at least initially.

- Taxi drivers appear to get some type of tip for bringing customers to these saunas.

- A few staff very fluent in English.

- I had limited time, but probably should have tried the thigh massages, ear cleaning, foot massages, etc. Those look like good value if you have more time to lounge around.

- Take advantage of the free food, drinks, fruits, etc. These all cost quite a bit, and a large portion of the menu is free (or included) in the entrance fees, or if you pick a girl.

- Lineups can be a little intimidating, at least for me. Almost all of them are 8's and above, so it can be a little hard to choose.

- I went with the girls who made eye contact. My best experience was with someone who was practically staring me down, even when I moved around (at Rio).

- Beware of body type, and make sure you pay attention to that. I concentrated too much on the face most of the time.

- Even after you pick a girl, their voice may not be the same as what you perceived. I had one at FN who had a low, raspy voice (number 1013). Then another one in Rio (number 831) who had a very high pitched, squeaky voice.

- After you pick a girl and get settled into the room, I recommend just go with the flow. They all have their routine, and all of them are quite enjoyable.

- Variables include massage, shower play, some form of suction massage from the mouth (on your back) while she gargles. Also the famous hot and cold BJ. One girl did full body slippery massage, and also extended rimming. Others didn't.

- The condom one girl brought out was extremely small. I had never seen anything like it. Almost like a finger condom size. I'm of Asian descent, but live in the US. And I'd consider myself to be average in size. Others had normal sized condoms, but this was the first time I saw the extremely small ones.

- Treat the girls nice, and you will have a great time. Most I've talk to say this is a temporary gig for them to make a quick buck. They will then return back to China and probably never come back.

- One girl I clicked with shared her phone number and name. She had asked to visit with me after hours. Unfortunately I could not take her up of the offer. But maybe next time.

- I never know how or when to tip. They were never asked for, and since all we carry is the bracelet and my wallet was in the locker, there was no access to any $$ to tip the girls, or anyone else, even if you wanted to.

- I'd recommend staying longer, and not be in a rush.

- Sometimes it's better to pick someone who may not be as popular. A really busy girl will likely be tired or worn out and won't be able to provide as good a session as someone who has been bored all day, and you being the first to pick them!

- Some of the girls are quite flirty, and many of the Vietnamese ones are this way. I would pick one of these next time.

- A great time to be had in Macau. I look forward to returning soon.

[QUOTE=JeffZeke;1699979]- I never know how or when to tip. They were never asked for, and since all we carry is the bracelet and my wallet was in the locker, there was no access to any $$ to tip the girls, or anyone else, even if you wanted to.
[/QUOTE]I understand it is not allowed to tip by cash. I read somewhere here that it was possible to tell managers that you would like to tip a particular girl, then they add amount to your bill which you pay before leaving and then girl receives your tip from establishment. But in Familia Nobre it was not possible for me, manager said that tips were not allowed at all. I don't know about other places. Anyway, price is quite high itself and obviously tips seem to be pretty much unnecessary, another question though is how much from fixed rate the girl gets and how much goes to sauna.

[QUOTE=Melor;1701711]... another question though is how much from fixed rate the girl gets and how much goes to sauna.[/QUOTE]What was shared was that it was over 60% goes to management / sauna, and less than 40% to the girl. That's what prompted me to consider tipping. Not sure if this ratio is standard across all establishments or not.

Hi folks,

Just got back from a trip to HK & Macau, and got an opportunity to sneak out away for the family for one quick trip to Rios.

Firstly, staying closer to the older hotels is a better idea, The Venetian was too far away and the casinos around were also limited. The older hotels also give easier access to Divino and Famila Nobre (Which I didn't try, because wasn't sure of the exact location).

Took a cab from the Venetian to Rio's (got a bit of a look from the cab attendant) and went straight up to the 5th floor.

Once you enter, you pay nothing, you just walk in and are given a locker and a number. There you undress into a towel and head out to the first room, which is a shower and pool and jacuzzi area. Naked men swimming / resting there. There are also "shower girls" asking if you want them to give you a shower. The line up was about to start in 10 min (every 30 min) so I didn't get a chance to try that out.

Took a quick shower on my own and walked around a bit to another area which led another changing area, where they give you shorts and robe. The attendant will help you put on the robe and even tie it for you, from behind!

The next area is where they serve the free food and limited drink (didn't try any) and also where they do the massages, Hand jobs etc.

The line up soon started and hot girls walking past towards the pool area. Most of them wearing nothing lingerie and thongs. Attendants help you choose, Japanese are the most expensive and Viets are the cheapest.

I picked a Chinese girl based on the suggestion of the attendant, and was walked up to a mezz floor which is full of rooms, must be 30-40 rooms. My room had a bed and a separate tub area.

In walks the girl, doesn't speak English at all (my fault, should have checked that), Undresses herself, undresses me and guides me to the tub area. This tub is not the regular deep tub, it is shallow, where you can lie down and get a quick bath, without using too much water. Lie on my front first, starts the process of cleaning, plenty of action on the cock and balls, keeping it well hard. Started to run her fingers thru my butt crack, clean and tease. Then suddenly I felt something hot and cold, she took an ice cube in her mouth coupled with warm water and used that for rimming, truly an amazing experience.

Turn around, lots of cleaning and lots of attention to the cock and balls. Including some interesting suction which she did all over. Difficult to explain, but gave me a good indication of the upcoming BJ.

Onto the bed, she dries me up completely and I lie down. She prepares 3 cups just below the bed, don't know what they are. On goes a condom (didn't do BBBJ apparently, again, my mistake should have asked). However, again got the hot and cold treatment with some very good suction.

On to cow girl and few other positions until I finished.

Overall, Rio is something that you must absolutely try, but I'm losing my interest in Asian women for Far East descent. Not really working for me. Therefore, I probably will not repeat next time I go there.

Otw back to the hotel, saw plenty of SW in the area, again think it would be better to stay in the older area or in the Wynn next time.

S

Greetings all,

I've been reading a bit about taking the turbojet over from Hong Kong to Macau and there were a few mentions about getting a discount to the saunas from Shun Tak Centre. Does anyone have any more specifics on this?

Cheers,

N

[QUOTE=NoodleMan8;1706478]Greetings all,
I've been reading a bit about taking the turbojet over from Hong Kong to Macau and there were a few mentions about getting a discount to the saunas from Shun Tak Centre. Does anyone have any more specifics on this?
[/QUOTE]I read about Shun Tak on another forum. I think you can find a Shun Tak center at Ferry Terminal in Hong Kong and you can buy a discount package for one of the Macau's Sauna that included: FS, body scrub, massage and round trip by ferry or something similar.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1706538]I read about Shun Tak on another forum. I think you can find a Shun Tak center at Ferry Terminal in Hong Kong and you can buy a discount package for one of the Macau's Sauna that included: FS, body scrub, massage and round trip by ferry or something similar.[/QUOTE]Thank you Christian. I'll see if I can add more details into which spas are offering discounts once I get there to Shun Tak Centre in a couple months.

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Advice needed. I'm flying into HK Thur morning. I figure I'd take the Airport Express to the Shun Tak terminal, grab a quick bite, and jump on the ferry to Macau. When I get there, I'm guessing it'll be around noon or early afternoon. Are there any saunas I can go to that won't suck at that time? Darling 1 maybe? I read somewhere that they have an early afternoon special? If I walk to Darling 1, is the walking distance close enough for me to temporarily store my luggage at the ferry terminal or is there another safe place to store them near or at Darling?

First thing, you no need go into Hong Kong when you arrive, you just can take a ferry from airport to Macau, before you pass passport control is a ferry counter, just go there, buy ferry ticket, show your baggage tag, they will collect your bags and bring to the ferry for you. No need Hong Kong immigration etc.

Once arrive in Macau ferry terminal they have lockers there to store your luggage. There you can buy a ferry ticket back to Hong Kong or to airport.

From Macau ferry terminal it is easy to get into the city, just take a free of charge casino shuttle bus.

Enjoy and report.

[QUOTE=Shimano;1706854]Advice needed. I'm flying into HK Thur morning. I figure I'd take the Airport Express to the Shun Tak terminal, grab a quick bite, and jump on the ferry to Macau. When I get there, I'm guessing it'll be around noon or early afternoon. Are there any saunas I can go to that won't suck at that time? Darling 1 maybe? I read somewhere that they have an early afternoon special? If I walk to Darling 1, is the walking distance close enough for me to temporarily store my luggage at the ferry terminal or is there another safe place to store them near or at Darling?[/QUOTE]

Reason why I was thinking going to Shun Tak is so I can buy those sauna packages. Is it not worth it? Also, any suggestions on daytime saunas? And at places like Eighteen or Familia Nobre, how long can I stay there?

[QUOTE=ThomasJefferson;1707787]First thing, you no need go into Hong Kong when you arrive, you just can take a ferry from airport to Macau, before you pass passport control is a ferry counter, just go there, buy ferry ticket, show your baggage tag, they will collect your bags and bring to the ferry for you. No need Hong Kong immigration etc.

Once arrive in Macau ferry terminal they have lockers there to store your luggage. There you can buy a ferry ticket back to Hong Kong or to airport.

From Macau ferry terminal it is easy to get into the city, just take a free of charge casino shuttle bus.

Enjoy and report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shimano;1708074]Reason why I was thinking going to Shun Tak is so I can buy those sauna packages. Is it not worth it? Also, any suggestions on daytime saunas? And at places like Eighteen or Familia Nobre, how long can I stay there?[/QUOTE]For what I read on another website, you can buy a sauna package in Macao also, but I don't know where.

Best time for Sauna would be evening time 7-9 pm. Friday, Saturday and maybe Sunday you could find sauna a little be crowded.

I think you don't have a time limit for enjoy their facilities.

[QUOTE=Shimano;1708074]Reason why I was thinking going to Shun Tak is so I can buy those sauna packages. Is it not worth it? Also, any suggestions on daytime saunas? And at places like Eighteen or Familia Nobre, how long can I stay there?[/QUOTE]It has been a couple years since I've purchased a sauna package from one of the shops in Shun Tak, but as things stay largely the same there, I would say that I never noticed any big savings (we're probably talking HKD 200 or so) by purchasing a sauna package from one of the three or four shops that trade in the deal. (That was one of my wonderful introductions to mongering, seeing the shopfront posters of beautiful women with the word "SEX" in foot-tall type; I knew then and there that I was in a new, magical world).

At one of the shops there was one particular gentlemen who spoke English well (I have long forgotten his name, sorry) and is very helpful -- to the point of escorting you to the ferry ramp. The downside, for a short trip, is that you're locked in to one particular establishment and typically there is the trouble of finding the tour operator in Macau to pick up your return ferry ticket. Not a big deal, really, but considering the savings are scant anyhow, nothing much to recommend them, either.

Can you buy these packages from any of the hotel concierge As well?

The only thing you save when buying Shun Tak is probably the ferry tickets. I do not bother. The sauna all have menus that show the prices, so you know how much you are spending.

[QUOTE=Dynolas;1708541]Can you buy these packages from any of the hotel concierge As well?[/QUOTE]

Any of you tried some of the *other* saunas?

- L'Arc Sauna (I'll probably try this one next time I am there).

- Grand Emperor.

- Grand Lisboa (heard they were getting a sauna up to replace the race track?

I saw these saunas and was wondering if anyone went to it and how was it, what was it like?

Tin vong, playmate, Big boss, victoria, millionaires pallace, and darling 2 saunas.

After spending time in the P. I. I had two nights planned for Macau before returning home. The plan for the first day, F. M. , eat dinner at the seafood buffet at the mgm. Then to the Rio which is where I was staying. I get to F. M. Around 15:45. Just as described in prior post. The shower girl was cute but by the time she asked me to shower me, I was just about done. Didn't use her service. Did make use of the cold and hot pools. In the lounge area, got a seat and a drink. After a while a massage girl comes over and asked if I wanted a thigh massage. I said yes. For some reason I thought this was a short massage rubbing the legs then the jewels. She took me to a room and gave me a 1 hour massage. She asked if I wanted a happy ending but I told her I wanted to do FS with one of the regular girls. So after the massage which was actually pretty good, I went back to the lounge to pick a lady. I get to my seat as 6 girls goes by me. There is one tall one that caught my eye. Hopefully she will be there when she comes over to my seat. No such luck. In fact, by the time the girls came to my seat there was only one girl. Not my type so passed. Asked the guy working there when more girls will show up. He told me I had to wait at least an hour and a half. I told him I wanted to go to the mgm for dinner and I would be back.

Never made it back but the seafood buffet at the mgm was really good and really expensive.

After dinner, I walk back to the Rio and head up to the spa. Get changed and go into the hot and cold pools. There were three girls wearing blue uniform and since it wasn't crowded, they started to talk to me. At least two of them did. Turns out, two of them were from Indonesia and the other from Vietnam. I tell the two Indo girls that I went on vacation in Indonesia last year and had a great time. They were very cool and we talked for at least 10 - 15 minutes. Then someone must have needed a massage because one of the male workers told them something and I didn't see them again. So I go to the lounge to relax. It seemed like every ten minutes I would be asked if I wanted a massage, thigh or other. Maybe a pedicure. How does one relax with so many offers?

Later while relaxing the guy says lineup is starting. I rush to the pool area and this part I didn't like. It seems like they try to rush you to pick someone. If you don't pick someone, off they go until the next lineup. On the second lineup, again I felt rushed so I picked a prc girl. I believe her number was 325. It wasn't a bad session, but it wasn't great either. Since this was my first time in a Macau sauna, it was exciting. Didn't care to much for the milk bath or whatever it's called. For me it didn't elevate the session one bit. But like I said, it was fun but I don't think I would do it again. I like to take my time when choosing a girl, it felt too rushed, or at least at this sauna. In hind sight, I should have tried to get one of the indo girls to come up to my room. Felt like the chemistry was there. Well, another lost opportunity.

Tomorrow, Darlings and maybe another sauna like 18.

After my Hong Kong and Guangzhou adventures, I took the train from Guangzhou south to Zhuhai.

1st class 90 rmb, takes 50 min.

From the station 100 m walk to the border, after passport check I took the casino shuttle bus to the galaxy Starworld casino.

Where I deposited my luggage, they open until 2 am, and reopen in the morning 7 am, deposit of luggage is free of charge for casino guest (who can check that?

Equipped with some fresh cloth for changing I went just round the corner to familia Nombre sauna at around 9 pm.

Usual routine, change, shower, chat to the bathing girls (all from Vietnam). Go to get my pajama, there was a nice chinagirl in red dress waiting to help me dry and dress.

Which she did very carefully, including some hugs and a short DF kiss. Wow. Good start there.

To the relax chair, people smoking, even sign said it was not allowed, but nobody cared. Ordered some food and drink (free of charge).

Was told when I order a girl I will get a free foot or shoulder massage after. During my eating I saw the line up a few times, the nice china girl was in the lineup now and every time passed me, she gave me a smile.

First I wanted body scrub (288 hkd). Out to the pool area and grab a pretty Viet, she did a nice body scrub, followed by some naked B2B massage, total 25 min. Made me almost cum, haha.

Needed a good cover when I walked back to the lounge area.

Another drink than asked for a line up, of course I choose the sweet china girl, she was from Chengdu, a real cutie. The session is around 1700 hkd now. Off to the room we went.

I asked her to skip the usual routine and we just enjoyed one hour of GF sex. During we had time for some chatting too. Nice girl.

Back to the lounge, some more food, followed by a nice foot massage and a shoulder head massage, love it. Football champions league started, finished to see the game.

Asked the manager for the china girl again. 2nd round is cheaper only around 1100 hkd. She was very happy to see me. The next hour was real honest GF fun.

I was the only customer for her that night. Twice haha.

It was 6 am now. So I decided to sleep the other 2-3 hours, got a blanket and woke up at 9 am. Shower, shave, and go to pay. Total ca. 3000 hkd. Well worth spend.

Grabbed my bags at the galaxy Starworld hotel took a tax to Macau airport from where I had my flight to Taiwan.

Total time in Macao around 15 hours. Short but intensive.

[QUOTE=Shimano;1708074]Reason why I was thinking going to Shun Tak is so I can buy those sauna packages. Is it not worth it? Also, any suggestions on daytime saunas? And at places like Eighteen or Familia Nobre, how long can I stay there?[/QUOTE]400 or around that gives you 24 hours. But don't expect too many girls at that time. If you want girls better to go to darling 1 or 2.

I largely retired from Macau just because I've been there so much and had done it all (3-4 times a year for like 5 years!

After a long hiatus I came back and I must say I love it again! A few things to note:

- Macau is booming. There are like 5 new hotels in Cotai side being developed and others have already opened. Hard rock is expanding construction. There is a new highway / bridge being built from HKG to Macau (crazy). Rail system also being built in Cotai to link hotels.

- Prices are rising at Sauna's very quickly. Its not cheap at all.

- Lisboa is indeed dead, restaurant shutdown and everything.

- Galaxy now has a really nice phase 2 open with a cool pool where you can ride rafts in a circle similar to MGM at Vegas.

Seems FN is the popular place to go now. I went, it was great. Girls are always hit and miss but I had several hits with the supermodel population.

Sanada is closed. East is still there, but the room didn't even have a sheet. To save money now its a plastic bed cover. Kind of gross.

Rio which met expectation. Really good food, good massage services, and mediocre lineup where 80% are "model" instead of other way around which is annoying.

I didn't try 18 this time. Maybe in a future trip. What's the word there?

As a regular visitor in Macao since more than 10 years I became now more and more bored by the saunas.

It doesn't matter if I went to 18, Rio or East or Boss Sauna. I feel that the service level is decreasing and prices increased.

My last visits during the last month at East and 18 reflect my overall experiences since 2014.

The overall ambiente is a little bit worn out. Attendees and girls are more pushy to sell addon's and services.

Line ups are only during peak time impressive. Girl selection overall is not so wide anymore.

6 of my last 10 visits sex sessions were mediocre and mechanical. When I remember 2009 or 2010 such a service level was a rare exception.

But prices are much higher than ever. Last time I paid at 18 MOP 2. 800 for sex session and 2 x body scrub.

It's time to leave this scene again and to go to my former places in HKG and SZ when I'm in this region.

This will be my first mongering venture to Asia. Traveled extensively in Brazil and Europe.

I would like to have the full sauna experience. Shower girl, thigh massage, pool, etc.

I've read reports where there are no shower girls, etc at certain times and places.

What is the best time to go to say FN or Rio to get the full experience and choose from the best line-up?

Thanks,

CB

[QUOTE=Copabrasil1;1740669]
What is the best time to go to say FN or Rio to get the full experience and choose from the best line-up
CB[/QUOTE]I always go to the suanas between 7:30 pm and 9 pm. Generally the saunas fill up with customers later, but I like to be the first guy with the prime time girl of my choosing. The prime time line up shift begins around 7pm and the girls work until 3am when the morning shift comes on duty.

I almost always arrive in Macau on Sunday and depart on Friday. Not only are the hotels less crowded and much less expensive than on the weekend, but the saunas are less crowded and the girls less worked. A win win for me.

Is it possible to go early in the afternoon or morning? Is their a good selection and les crowd?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1740956]I always go to the suanas between 7:30 pm and 9 pm. Generally the saunas fill up with customers later, but I like to be the first guy with the prime time girl of my choosing. The prime time line up shift begins around 7pm and the girls work until 3am when the morning shift comes on duty.

I almost always arrive in Macau on Sunday and depart on Friday. Not only are the hotels less crowded and much less expensive than on the weekend, but the saunas are less crowded and the girls less worked. A win win for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dynolas;1741264]Is it possible to go early in the afternoon or morning? Is their a good selection and les crowd?[/QUOTE]#1. Yes, the saunas are open 24/7. #2. No, the selection is much better at night although that is not to say that you won't find a girl to your liking in the morning or early afternoon. You might. And some saunas like East Spa offer a discount on service if taken before 6 pm.

Having been to FN, Darling, Rio, Landmark, and East Spa recently, I decided to try one of the lesser reviewed saunas. Golden Sauna seemed to fit the bill.

Golden is a little unusual in several ways. First, is the entrance-- it's off a side street across the main street from the Waldo Hotel. Very unassuming unless you're looking for it. You enter through a little mall through a building that looks like there would be stores and such, but instead there is only a guy sitting at a podium near a little lobby with an elevator. Here is where you'll know you're in the right place since there are posters for Golden that make it clear what you'll find upstairs.

It's not quite as nice as say Rio, but it's nice enough. It's also a very small club, the entire place is a room with about 24 or so chairs. I went in mid-afternoon, so there weren't that many girls. And here comes the second unusual aspect of Golden (which I think was mentioned before in previous reviews), in other clubs, girls only come out during "showtime" or when you ask for a lineup. Here, the girls roam about and solicit customers like at an American strip club.

As soon as I entered, a petite girl in white from Harbin grabbed my arm and offered to show me the ropes and explain the system. While she was sweet, she wasn't my type, and I sent her away after a bit of chit chat. I felt bad for her because I could see her trying really hard with all the new customers coming in.

For me, a really cute, skinny girl wearing a sort of camo Tarzan and Jane outfit came over shortly thereafter, and the combination of her really toned body (she works out), bubbly personality, and cute face got me. The session ended up being one of my more memorable ones, though another unusual bit: she claimed not to have a phone, so no trading info. Interestingly enough, one of the Vietnamese massage girls also claimed the same thing. Probably untrue, just something they're instructed or have learned to say.

The food here is decent, but then, I don't go to saunas for the food. Did not try any thigh massage services. Later, when there were more girls (I left around 7 pm), they did showtime, and there were maybe a good 30-40 girls. They did something similar to Rio with a little rotating show where you get to get up close with several of the girls.

One other interesting thing-- my girl had a "twin" of sorts, another girl who was dressed exactly the same (though taller, and not as cute). She seemed to be high or something because she was jumping up and down, couldn't stop fidgeting and talking a mile a minute. I'll bet she's crazy in the sack-- but not my type.

Overall, Golden was a nice change of pace. On the one hand, it can get tiresome to fend off the girls if you just need to relax. On the other hand, it can be nice to test you chemistry a little bit before going to the room (though I didn't see all the girls out, I think only some of the girls are out chatting customers up). If you are really looking for a relaxing experience, you won't find it here -- it's extremely noisy, they play loud EDM type music and lights are going off. They probably have a relaxation or sleeping area, but most other saunas you can do that anywhere inside as it's more tranquil.

Natty:

Your message box is full, so delete some old messages, so you can receive some new ones.

Canyon.

I read hotels in Macau are very expensive, are there hotels in the US $ 50 range? Another question, at the saunas, do I have to take all the services they offer before screwing? Last question, I am in my 60's, would I have difficulties getting a working girl in a sauna? Thanks.

[QUOTE=SamuRay;1746188]I read hotels in Macau are very expensive, are there hotels in the US $ 50 range? Another question, at the saunas, do I have to take all the services they offer before screwing? Last question, I am in my 60's, would I have difficulties getting a working girl in a sauna? Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are options for hotels for all budgets, but don't expect much for $50 USD. For $75-100 USD you will have a decent hotel (think run of the mill Marriott in a medium sized USA City).

And no, you don't have to take any services you don't want. You can just go, soak in the pool, eat some of the food (included with admission) and leave. Or just go, screw and leave. But massage and grooming services are affordable so I would take advantage before heading up to the room.

Shouldn't have any issues with the girl-- you choose them, and it's a standard course. If you have chemistry you might get extra but as long as you treat the girl with respect you shouldn't get less than anyone else.

[QUOTE=SamuRay;1746188]I read hotels in Macau are very expensive, are there hotels in the US $ 50 range? Another question, at the saunas, do I have to take all the services they offer before screwing? Last question, I am in my 60's, would I have difficulties getting a working girl in a sauna? Thanks.[/QUOTE]1. If I were you, I would pay up and stay at either the Rio, Metropole, Golden Dragon, or Casa Real Hotels. All these hotels are approximately 3. 5 to 4* and priced in the low $80's / night from Sunday Night to Thursday Night. On weekends the hotel rates are much higher. Don't come to Macau on Friday or Saturday night. Compare the various rates at Agoda and Booking dot com over time and good deals pop up. Check with Travel Advisor for overall reviews. There are cheaper rooms available at pensions and places too low class to be listed on Agoda, but they are a real drop in service and quality. If $20/ night is really a problem for you, skip Macau and head to AC or Pattaya. That is not a knock, it is just some useful advice. If I were on a tight budget, I would stay at Rio for 82/ night and be comfortable and in the middle of all the action.

2. You do not have to take all the services or any of the services offered in a sauna. But I know for sure that at the higher end saunas, ie the saunas known for having the best lineup of girls, there is a surcharge if a customer chooses not to have a full session (sex). I am not sure if having a thigh message meets the no charge requirement or not. It probably does. The reason I do not know the exact details of the "sauna minimum charge" is because I always take a full session with a girl so it never affects my tab. The no session surcharge is in the neighborhood of a few hundred MOP. A friendly receptionist will inform you more about this fine before you enter the locker room and undress; the point of no return.

3. You will have no problem taking any girl in the lineup you want. The #1 thing the saunas offer their customers is SERVICE. You will be treated in a first class manner the minute you walk in until the moment you walk out no matter what your nationality or age providing you have a minimal level of decent hygiene and have no open sores on your body. Ha Ha. Now all that said, I think it is very incumbent on you, the customer, to select a girl in the lineup wisely. If a girl is not giving you eye contact or at least a faint smile, I would scratch her off your list of possibles. A girl's body language is the key guide to having a great session over having just an OK one. I assure you that in Rio, Famiia Nobre, and East Spa there will be plenty of girls imploring you with their eyes and smiles to pick them. It is not necessarily personal if a girl is not giving you a positive signal. She may have just come off an exhausting session with another customer and not be in the mood so soon thereafter. In any case, there is no shortage of attractive and willing young girls to choose from.

Just bring you visa card, don't think about what it is costing, and have a great time. Macau is amazing. You only live once!

I appreciate your answer, you made my day! All the best to you, my fellow traveller!

OK, the girls and lineup is still great. But a few things.

- construction finally over but its not any different!

- the girls who give you a robe are so annoying, they hassle you for a tip and say 100 or 200 are the options. 100 or 200 MOP? For handing you a robe is ridiculous. Its optional but they act like its not and they fooled my stupid friends!

- they tend to upsell optional condoms etc without really telling you which is annoying as hell.

- fishy massage selling by Vietnamese off the books. They don't tell you its off books until later then you have to go pay some lady downstairs. Very dodgy. They sold my friends and I a HJ massage w / 2-3 girls for 1500, which was hit-and-miss (some guys loved it, mine was so-so) then after said its not on the bill so pay some lady who will meet us downstairs. I imagine the management is in on it but not the owner.

Anyways I will avoid 18, too dodgy. Just didn't dig the non koscherness.

Overall MFM is good.

I thought condoms were free, what type they charging?

[QUOTE=Lattelatte;1749006]OK, the girls and lineup is still great. But a few things.

- construction finally over but its not any different!

- the girls who give you a robe are so annoying, they hassle you for a tip and say 100 or 200 are the options. 100 or 200 MOP? For handing you a robe is ridiculous. Its optional but they act like its not and they fooled my stupid friends!

- they tend to upsell optional condoms etc without really telling you which is annoying as hell.

- fishy massage selling by Vietnamese off the books. They don't tell you its off books until later then you have to go pay some lady downstairs. Very dodgy. They sold my friends and I a HJ massage w / 2-3 girls for 1500, which was hit-and-miss (some guys loved it, mine was so-so) then after said its not on the bill so pay some lady who will meet us downstairs. I imagine the management is in on it but not the owner.

Anyways I will avoid 18, too dodgy. Just didn't dig the non koscherness.

Overall MFM is good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1746303]

2. You do not have to take all the services or any of the services offered in a sauna. But I know for sure that at the higher end saunas, ie the saunas known for having the best lineup of girls, there is a surcharge if a customer chooses not to have a full session (sex). I am not sure if having a thigh message meets the no charge requirement or not. It probably does. The reason I do not know the exact details of the "sauna minimum charge" is because I always take a full session with a girl so it never affects my tab. The no session surcharge is in the neighborhood of a few hundred MOP. A friendly receptionist will inform you more about this fine before you enter the locker room and undress; the point of no return.

Just bring you visa card, don't think about what it is costing, and have a great time. Macau is amazing. You only live once![/QUOTE]Saunas will have a minimum charge in the area of 400 to 500 MOP.

If the services you buy (any) exceeds that amount you will be ok for some 12 hrs.

Of course the full service (1 HR soapie) will get you through any minimum as it is quite a high price.

Credit cards are ok and accepted but they might add a 3% fee on top of your bill and prices will then be charged in HKG $: a minimum diffefnece but still a difference not in your favour.

Okay let me be more detailed, as I watched this more closely and found 3 scams which make me want to avoid 18 (except 18 has the best lineup).

1. Robe girls are really annoying and try to force a tip even though sign says "optional" they will tell you you must tip 100 or 200, those are the options. I'm sure they are not tips but the management squeezing customers so I do not believe girls get the money. $100 to hand you a towel?

2. Viet's are all working a scam doing backroom activities off the books. If you want it that's fine, but expect a noisy room, dodgy service, and have to pay cash off the bill. If you are going to do it, negotiate up front. Overall I find them annoying they are yapping all day while massaging you.

3. Big warning on add ons. The girls are priced say $2000 for normal, $2200 for models but the guy will show you a paper listing:

$2200 + $225= $2450 with some Chinese words on each, and he gets you to nod OK.

IF you pester to ask why its $2450 not $2200 as I did, he will say $2200 is girl, $225 is soap and some outfit, total is $2450.

The +$225 is a total ripoff. You get a tube of soap and some goofy outfit the girl doesn't even wear to sneak off another $225.

In fact when I questioned it, he took me to the side away from all other clientele to explain and I said remove that, and he did before going in.

I really love Macau due to lack of scams (compared to say Vegas, etc). Most other sauna are legit no scams, so this is a shame they are squeezing clients like this to make it feel so dodgy.

Also most of the 18 population suddenly are priced as models, similar to Rio. Used to be real models are tall, now anybody is a "model".

[QUOTE=Dynolas;1749412]I thought condoms were free, what type they charging?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for detailed info, I'm in of those nice type guys who wouldn't know if they get scammed till end of day hearing about it from other people, some of these girls are good at manipulating people, especially at times I don't want to be considered cheap but then again dong want to over pay or tip when you shoukdnt.

[QUOTE=Lattelatte;1749499]Okay let me be more detailed, as I watched this more closely and found 3 scams which make me want to avoid 18 (except 18 has the best lineup).

1. Robe girls are really annoying and try to force a tip even though sign says "optional" they will tell you you must tip 100 or 200, those are the options. I'm sure they are not tips but the management squeezing customers so I do not believe girls get the money. $100 to hand you a towel?

2. Viet's are all working a scam doing backroom activities off the books. If you want it that's fine, but expect a noisy room, dodgy service, and have to pay cash off the bill. If you are going to do it, negotiate up front. Overall I find them annoying they are yapping all day while massaging you.

3. Big warning on add ons. The girls are priced say $2000 for normal, $2200 for models but the guy will show you a paper listing:

$2200 + $225= $2450 with some Chinese words on each, and he gets you to nod OK.

IF you pester to ask why its $2450 not $2200 as I did, he will say $2200 is girl, $225 is soap and some outfit, total is $2450.

The +$225 is a total ripoff. You get a tube of soap and some goofy outfit the girl doesn't even wear to sneak off another $225.

In fact when I questioned it, he took me to the side away from all other clientele to explain and I said remove that, and he did before going in.

I really love Macau due to lack of scams (compared to say Vegas, etc). Most other sauna are legit no scams, so this is a shame they are squeezing clients like this to make it feel so dodgy.

Also most of the 18 population suddenly are priced as models, similar to Rio. Used to be real models are tall, now anybody is a "model".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1746284]There are options for hotels for all budgets, but don't expect much for $50 USD. For $75-100 USD you will have a decent hotel (think run of the mill Marriott in a medium sized USA City).

And no, you don't have to take any services you don't want. You can just go, soak in the pool, eat some of the food (included with admission) and leave. Or just go, screw and leave. But massage and grooming services are affordable so I would take advantage before heading up to the room.

Shouldn't have any issues with the girl-- you choose them, and it's a standard course. If you have chemistry you might get extra but as long as you treat the girl with respect you shouldn't get less than anyone else.[/QUOTE]Things have really changed in Macau as $50-75 gets you a tent in Senado Square LOL and bathroom at Starbucks.

I would avoid Macau now anyway as it's just not worth the return IMHO. I rather go to Phils or even Colombia as the peso dollar ratio is now 2750-1 compared to 7. 97 to 1 in MOPs. They are pricing themselves out of the world especially the saunas as $300 for a hot see gal can be had in China for much less however all newbies wanting the "Sauna" experience than Macau is good.

PC out.

Agreed. In December 2014, I found a budget hotel near Darlings and Sofitel for slightly under $100. They are usually full too. I also ended up one night at a chinese type hotel with the 'wood' mattresses. Worse sleep I ever had and that room also cost around $85. Even the Lisboa was $200 plus. If I went again, I would simply stay at one of the spas after the service.

And Macau business is way down because the Chinese economy is slowing and the government is trying to root out corruption. Naturally, they raise hotel prices in this scenario.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1751056]Things have really changed in Macau as $50-75 gets you a tent in Senado Square LOL and bathroom at Starbucks.

I would avoid Macau now anyway as it's just not worth the return IMHO. I rather go to Phils or even Colombia as the peso dollar ratio is now 2750-1 compared to 7. 97 to 1 in MOPs. They are pricing themselves out of the world especially the saunas as $300 for a hot see gal can be had in China for much less however all newbies wanting the "Sauna" experience than Macau is good.

PC out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lattelatte;1749006]OK, the girls and lineup is still great. But a few things.

- construction finally over but its not any different!

- the girls who give you a robe are so annoying, they hassle you for a tip and say 100 or 200 are the options. 100 or 200 MOP? For handing you a robe is ridiculous. Its optional but they act like its not and they fooled my stupid friends!

- they tend to upsell optional condoms etc without really telling you which is annoying as hell.

- fishy massage selling by Vietnamese off the books. They don't tell you its off books until later then you have to go pay some lady downstairs. Very dodgy. They sold my friends and I a HJ massage w / 2-3 girls for 1500, which was hit-and-miss (some guys loved it, mine was so-so) then after said its not on the bill so pay some lady who will meet us downstairs. I imagine the management is in on it but not the owner.

Anyways I will avoid 18, too dodgy. Just didn't dig the non koscherness.

Overall MFM is good.[/QUOTE]Can't agree more. Exactly my experiences the last two times. It is not what it was some years ago.

It lost some of it's excellence and compelling behavior. I don't see why I should the extra here.

Macau is very expensive, but it's worth trying if you have the money. The sauna experience is unique and everyone should try it once. My recommendation is Rio, which is expensive, but worth it in my opinion, because of the beautifu girls and the upscale surroundings. Full sex for one hour runs from 2,200 to 3,200. There is also a menu of other sex services ranging from a "thigh massage" at 237 (no sex) to a regular massage at 600 for 45 minutes (no sex).

One of my favorites is the "chair shower" which is located at the entrance right next to the shallow pool. I think it costs around 250 for 25 minutes. You sit on a chair with a hole in the bottom while the girl massages you all over and pours warm water over you. It's exquisite. You'll see why there is a whole in the chair, when she runs her hands around your private parts. The last time I was there, I had a great experience with an Indonesian girl named Liany. She really had a great technique of massaging your private parts, and it was so good I almost came. She is really cute, and we had good chemistry going, so I asked what time she got off. She said her shift ended at 9:30 pm, and she would be happy to come to my room at the Rio Hotel.

The cost for full sex at Rio ranges from 2,200 to 3,200 for one hour, so I asked if she would come up for 2,000. She stayed firm at 3,000, but we had good rapport, so I asked if she would take care of me for two hours for 3,000. She said she would, so we made a deal. It was unbelievable and well worth the 3,000. We spent over two hours together in my room. It was worth it to me, since I like the long sessions and I like the privacy of my own room. We started off with her giving me a shower, then we went to the bed, where she gave me a 30-minute BBBJ that was one of the best I have ever had. She had a great technique of sucking my cock while she rubbed my balls, then sucking my balls, while running her fingers around the rim of my bottom, then going back with her tongue running up the side of my cock. I was in heaven and cried out with pleasure. After the BBBJ, she gave me a 45-minute massage that was wonderful. It was very relaxing and sensual at the same time. After the massage, she gave me another 25-minute BBBJ that was even better than the first one. I still get a hard-on thinking about it. Finally, the sexual tension was so strong that I called for a condom. She jumped on and rode me cowgirl with ecstasy on her face. We tried several more positions including doggie, before I laid her on her back and entered from the top. Her pussy was very tight and she moved in a very erotic manner. It was one of the best sessions I have ever had, I highly recommend Liany. You can go to Rio and try her for the shower massage, and if you have good chemistry, you can make an investment in two hours of exquisite pleasure. For me, it was worth it, because you never know what you will get from the models in the line-up. I've had both good and bad experiences. What I liked about Liany is that I could talk to her and sample her technique to see if there was good chemistry, before making a deal. Also, the two-hour session and my private hotel room were important. I don't think I'll ever forget the experience.

Macau is real up class place. Specially the Venetian Area. I was there some time back and stayed at Sheraton. The best thing about all these hotels in this area is that all most all of them are friendly hotels. The commercial offerings are a plenty. Places in old Macau like Lisbon etc are a fantastic place for fun loving individuals.

I met this FL in one of the famous night clubs in old Macau and offered her drinks and then went on to some good time talks in and around that area. We came to our hotel with some pecking in the taxi. And a fantastic session in the room. Finally she herself offered to spend the whole night and I had one of the best experience ever. Total Damage was around 150 USD. But worth every penny.

I am not too good a narrator and new to this forum too but have already begun to like the ecosystem in this forum.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1746303]1. If I were you, I would pay up and stay at either the Rio, Metropole, Golden Dragon, or Casa Real Hotels. All these hotels are approximately 3. 5 to 4* and priced in the low $80's / night from Sunday Night to Thursday Night. On weekends the hotel rates are much higher. Don't come to Macau on Friday or Saturday night. Compare the various rates at Agoda and Booking dot com over time and good deals pop up. Check with Travel Advisor for overall reviews. There are cheaper rooms available at pensions and places too low class to be listed on Agoda, but they are a real drop in service and quality. If $20/ night is really a problem for you, skip Macau and head to AC or Pattaya. That is not a knock, it is just some useful advice. If I were on a tight budget, I would stay at Rio for 82/ night and be comfortable and in the middle of all the action.

2. You do not have to take all the services or any of the services offered in a sauna. But I know for sure that at the higher end saunas, ie the saunas known for having the best lineup of girls, there is a surcharge if a customer chooses not to have a full session (sex). I am not sure if having a thigh message meets the no charge requirement or not. It probably does. The reason I do not know the exact details of the "sauna minimum charge" is because I always take a full session with a girl so it never affects my tab. The no session surcharge is in the neighborhood of a few hundred MOP. A friendly receptionist will inform you more about this fine before you enter the locker room and undress; the point of no return.[/QUOTE]Is BBBJ automatically provided by all girls in Macau saunas? If not, in which sauna can we be sure to get it?

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;1766366]Is BBBJ automatically provided by all girls in Macau saunas? [/QUOTE]Yes or rather I have never received anything less than a BBBJ. Sauna girls have two different blow job methods. The most often used is Fire and Ice and second most common is a plain ol' BBBJ. When I like a girl I elevate the play to 69. In addition, many Macau Sauna girls have intimated that they wanted oral vaginal stimulation by positioning their bodies perpendicular to my body as they initiated a blow job so that I could see their vaginas and their pussies were within easy reach. Most sauna girls also perform rim jobs and cat licking before sex. Macau Saunas are great. THE ONLY DOWN SIDE IS THE COST! Stick to the best Saunas - Rio, East, & Familia Nobre at least until you are familiar with the set up. Macau is not the place to be frugal.

[QUOTE=Ros73;1762189]Macau is real up class place. Specially the Venetian Area. I was there some time back and stayed at Sheraton.

I met this FL in one of the famous night clubs in old Macau and offered her drinks and then went on to some good time talks in and around that area. We came to our hotel with some pecking in the taxi. And a fantastic session in the room. Finally she herself offered to spend the whole night and I had one of the best experience ever. Total Damage was around 150 USD. But worth every penny.

I am not too good a narrator and new to this forum too but have already begun to like the ecosystem in this forum.[/QUOTE]Not too shabby a field report, Ros. I liked it. There are not enough reports in the Macau Forum on FL nightclub pickups. I picked up a friendly Filipina one time at MP4, a couple of Indonesian girls at Lion's Bar in the MGM, and one super hot Chinese FL hanging around the slot machines at the MGM. I have seen many Chinese FL's hanging out in front of the Holiday Inn on the Cotai Strip down from the Sheraton and across the street from the Venetian, but I was always just coming back from a Sauna so I was not in the mood.

Do you recall the name of the nightclub where your made your pickup? And what nationality was your girl?

In the sauna are you allowed to have multiple pops as in they go up to the time limit that you paid for?

And for the FL best places to meet them, how do you tell if they are FL since I don't want to mistake a regular chick with a FL. Or is their any recommended FL sites or agency?

[QUOTE=Dynolas;1766671]In the sauna are you allowed to have multiple pops as in they go up to the time limit that you paid for?

And for the FL best places to meet them, how do you tell if they are FL since I don't want to mistake a regular chick with a FL. Or is their any recommended FL sites or agency?[/QUOTE]If you RTFF you will learn which are the places where to find FL's and do not worry, they are there for the market so in most cases they will give you the eye or approach.

Yea I know, just wanted to know what is highly recommended including websites, even if a girl gives an eye sometimes it can be a legit girl free and that would be embarrassing to call her a Sole FL, but then again I heard some experience that the FL won't tell their a FL till the deed is done, then they extort you for high amount of money that you might or might not have.

Also about my question about saunas, do the girls go by the time limit or 1 shot?

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1766829]If you RTFF you will learn which are the places where to find FL's and do not worry, they are there for the market so in most cases they will give you the eye or approach.[/QUOTE]

As others have said this place is getting stupid expensive. I would rather go to a Viet massage place and offer a cute V massage girl 600-1000 mop to stay all night rather than dump 2500-3000 mop for a Sauna model that's a Sauna DEAD Fish LOL. The Viet girls are quite good and very GFE IMHO. Of course, if we click its way better and then she is my GF for a few days. Meet too many like this too count in the last 8+ yrs coming here.

PC out.

I had a long overnight layover in HKG and decided to take the ferry over to Macau for the evening. Skypier makes it so convenient to get to Macau in just 50 minutes. On my way over to Macau I continued to debate where I was going to go, as I have been there before and had great experiences at Darling, East Spa, The One and East Castle. Since there appeared to be a lot of reviews of Familia Nobre and I had never been, I opted to check it out. In comparison to the other spas that I have visited, I would say Familia Nobre was okay but not better than the other places that I have previously visited and I would not put it on the top of my list.

I arrived at FN around 10:30 pm on a Thursday evening and it wasn't very busy. The inside of this spa is nice but I wasn't wowed by any means. I was immediately approached by a massage girl who offered a thigh massage for 198 MOP and I accepted. Instead of doing the thigh massage in the lounge, I was taken back to a small room. This pretty young lady was encouraging me to cum for an additional price but given how tired I was from the long flight, I wanted to hold out for my first session.

My only real complaint with FN is that I couldn't find ANYONE that could speak English to really understand how to fully enjoy the spa. I even asked one of the men that looked like a manager if anyone spoke English and he sent over a lady to me that could not speak English or understand anything that I said. Needless to say, I went back to my locker and got my iPad so I could get on this site and quickly try to read any reviews on FN to figure out who did what. There were lounge girls in white-green, white-red, all black, red-black, pink-black and all green. Sort of confusing for a first-timer when no one can speak English and explain.

After relaxing in the lounge and observing the activity, I soon figured that there were no shows tonight and the line-ups were by request only. There was actually a line-up for the gentleman sitting across from me so I got to see that backside of all the girls. The odd thing is that once this gentleman picked his lady, the ladies were dismissed and began to leave the lounge. I had to ask the manager to bring the ladies back for a line-up for me. Why not ask other men in the lounge if they want to see the line-up while they have all of the girls lined up in the lounge?

As for the ladies, like all the saunas in Macau, there are some very beautiful ladies and I opted for a very thin Chinese lady that was wearing a long sexy dress and really looked great. She escorted me back to a room (rooms are okay. Nothing too nice) and when she took off her dress I saw how skinny this lady was and how good her push-up bra was. She was actually a very sweet girl and seemed to feel a little embarrassed that she couldn't speak English but I assured her it was okay. My session with her was actually pretty good.

Back to the lounge for some rest and I chose to get a manicure and a shoulder massage from one of the Viet girls in white-green. I tried to convince her to give me a thigh massage as well but she politely declined and said she doesn't do the thigh massage.

I requested a second line-up and this time selected a pretty girl in a short pink dress with a very unique look. It turns out she was part Korean and part Russian. This girl spoke a few words of English. As good as she looked in her dress, she had stretch marks all over the cheeks of her ass. She gave me a good session and even appeared to be offering a second go but I just couldn't make it happen.

After a little rest in the lounge and shortly before my departure I saw a cute Viet girl in all black. She explained that she offers a full body massage for 998 MOP. She escorted me to the massage room and began a nice massage. Given my limited time before the ferry departure, I showed her exactly where I wanted her to focus her attention and she was able to make me finish just in time.

My total for the night was about 5,500 MOP for all of the services. It was a good night and another fun trip to Macau but I think East Spa and East Castle are my preferred destinations in Macau. Given what I read and watch on TV about the economic decline and reduced number of visitors to Macau from China, I will be interested in seeing the impact on the Macau saunas. For whatever reason, I never see Caucasian men in any of these saunas which leads me to believe that men from Europe, Australia and North America have no idea how pleasurable the Macau sauna experience is or they just prefer Thailand. My next destination!

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1768990]I had a long overnight layover in HKG and decided to take the ferry over to Macau for the evening. Skypier makes it so convenient to get to Macau in just 50 minutes. On my way over to Macau I continued to debate where I was going to go, as I have been there before and had great experiences at Darling, East Spa, The One and East Castle. Since there appeared to be a lot of reviews of Familia Nobre and I had never been, I opted to check it out. In comparison to the other spas that I have visited, I would say Familia Nobre was okay but not better than the other places that I have previously visited and I would not put it on the top of my list.

I arrived at FN around 10:30 pm on a Thursday evening and it wasn't very busy. The inside of this spa is nice but I wasn't wowed by any means. I was immediately approached by a massage girl who offered a thigh massage for 198 MOP and I accepted. Instead of doing the thigh massage in the lounge, I was taken back to a small room. This pretty young lady was encouraging me to cum for an additional price but given how tired I was from the long flight, I wanted to hold out for my first session.

My only real complaint with FN is that I couldn't find ANYONE that could speak English to really understand how to fully enjoy the spa. I even asked one of the men that looked like a manager if anyone spoke English and he sent over a lady to me that could not speak English or understand anything that I said. Needless to say, I went back to my locker and got my iPad so I could get on this site and quickly try to read any reviews on FN to figure out who did what. There were lounge girls in white-green, white-red, all black, red-black, pink-black and all green. Sort of confusing for a first-timer when no one can speak English and explain.

After relaxing in the lounge and observing the activity, I soon figured that there were no shows tonight and the line-ups were by request only. There was actually a line-up for the gentleman sitting across from me so I got to see that backside of all the girls. The odd thing is that once this gentleman picked his lady, the ladies were dismissed and began to leave the lounge. I had to ask the manager to bring the ladies back for a line-up for me. Why not ask other men in the lounge if they want to see the line-up while they have all of the girls lined up in the lounge?...[/QUOTE]I am Caucasian it will be my first trip to Macau early October. Please let me know if the sauna girls do BBBJ ad possibly CIM, that's what I am looking for with priority.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1768990]I had a long overnight layover in HKG and decided to take the ferry over to Macau for the evening. Skypier makes it so convenient to get to Macau in just 50 minutes. On my way over to Macau I continued to debate where I was going to go, as I have been there before and had great experiences at Darling, East Spa, The One and East Castle. Since there appeared to be a lot of reviews of Familia Nobre and I had never been, I opted to check it out. In comparison to the other spas that I have visited, I would say Familia Nobre was okay but not better than the other places that I have previously visited and I would not put it on the top of my list.

I arrived at FN around 10:30 pm on a Thursday evening and it wasn't very busy. The inside of this spa is nice but I wasn't wowed by any means. I was immediately approached by a massage girl who offered a thigh massage for 198 MOP and I accepted. Instead of doing the thigh massage in the lounge, I was taken back to a small room. This pretty young lady was encouraging me to cum for an additional price but given how tired I was from the long flight, I wanted to hold out for my first session.

My only real complaint with FN is that I couldn't find ANYONE that could speak English to really understand how to fully enjoy the spa. I even asked one of the men that looked like a manager if anyone spoke English and he sent over a lady to me that could not speak English or understand anything that I said. Needless to say, I went back to my locker and got my iPad so I could get on this site and quickly try to read any reviews on FN to figure out who did what. There were lounge girls in white-green, white-red, all black, red-black, pink-black and all green. Sort of confusing for a first-timer when no one can speak English and explain.

After relaxing in the lounge and observing the activity, I soon figured that there were no shows tonight and the line-ups were by request only. There was actually a line-up for the gentleman sitting across from me so I got to see that backside of all the girls. The odd thing is that once this gentleman picked his lady, the ladies were dismissed and began to leave the lounge. I had to ask the manager to bring the ladies back for a line-up for me. Why not ask other men in the lounge if they want to see the line-up while they have all of the girls lined up in the lounge?

As for the ladies, like all the saunas in Macau, there are some very beautiful ladies and I opted for a very thin Chinese lady that was wearing a long sexy dress and really looked great. She escorted me back to a room (rooms are okay. Nothing too nice) and when she took off her dress I saw how skinny this lady was and how good her push-up bra was. She was actually a very sweet girl and seemed to feel a little embarrassed that she couldn't speak English but I assured her it was okay. My session with her was actually pretty good.

Back to the lounge for some rest and I chose to get a manicure and a shoulder massage from one of the Viet girls in white-green. I tried to convince her to give me a thigh massage as well but she politely declined and said she doesn't do the thigh massage.

I requested a second line-up and this time selected a pretty girl in a short pink dress with a very unique look. It turns out she was part Korean and part Russian. This girl spoke a few words of English. As good as she looked in her dress, she had stretch marks all over the cheeks of her ass. She gave me a good session and even appeared to be offering a second go but I just couldn't make it happen.

After a little rest in the lounge and shortly before my departure I saw a cute Viet girl in all black. She explained that she offers a full body massage for 998 MOP. She escorted me to the massage room and began a nice massage. Given my limited time before the ferry departure, I showed her exactly where I wanted her to focus her attention and she was able to make me finish just in time.

My total for the night was about 5,500 MOP for all of the services. It was a good night and another fun trip to Macau but I think East Spa and East Castle are my preferred destinations in Macau. Given what I read and watch on TV about the economic decline and reduced number of visitors to Macau from China, I will be interested in seeing the impact on the Macau saunas. For whatever reason, I never see Caucasian men in any of these saunas which leads me to believe that men from Europe, Australia and North America have no idea how pleasurable the Macau sauna experience is or they just prefer Thailand. My next destination![/QUOTE]Nice report but I can't see spending $700 usd on pussy where as I can get similar 3 girls for about 2200 mop. I would rather send the other 3 k on eating as this fucking place is really expensive. The Restaurant I got to for dumplings price is now double of what it was just 2 yrs ago.

My massage gal from Vietnam just left the room after an hour fuck for 500 mop and I didn't have to go anywhere. Been to FN many times in the last 8 yrs and it was good before the Chinese Gold Rush a few years ago. You could get a decent Viet gal for the Managers Special 798 mop before 7 pm. That is long gone and I prefer the plethora of Massage places near the Casa Real / Golden Dragon area. Lots of choices and a good backwalk and FS with a cute Viet massage girl for less than 800 mop.

PC out.

Thanks for you report AtexGuy!

I'll be in Macau for my first time next December and I still undecided about which sauna I'll try, your report is helpful.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1768990] I think East Spa and East Castle are my preferred destinations in Macau [/QUOTE]If you must to choose, which one is the best for you between this 2?

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1768990] I soon figured that there were no shows tonight and the line-ups were by request only. [/QUOTE]For what I read on another forum seems they don't have a showtime anymore at FN.

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;1769094]I am Caucasian it will be my first trip to Macau early October. Please let me know if the sauna girls do BBBJ ad possibly CIM, that's what I am looking for with priority.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Yes most of the 2 k girls will let you CIM and spit. I haven't seem one swallow a drop yet.

PC out.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1769189]Thanks for you report AtexGuy!

I'll be in Macau for my first time next December and I still undecided about which sauna I'll try, your report is helpful.

If you must to choose, which one is the best for you between this 2?

For what I read on another forum seems they don't have a showtime anymore at FN.[/QUOTE]I would choose East Spa in Waldo Hotel. I would also goto Houva Electric Sauna across from Royal Hotel or order there hotel service for 800 for 90 minutes plus taxi. These saunas are good for one visit on the bucket list. Prices are crazy like 5 k for the Texguy but that's IMHO.

PC out.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1769189]Thanks for you report AtexGuy!

I'll be in Macau for my first time next December and I still undecided about which sauna I'll try, your report is helpful.

If you must to choose, which one is the best for you between this 2?

For what I read on another forum seems they don't have a showtime anymore at FN.[/QUOTE]No question about it. East Castle. I was treated very well there by the staff and the girls are amazing.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1769184]Nice report but I can't see spending $700 usd on pussy where as I can get similar 3 girls for about 2200 mop. I would rather send the other 3 k on eating as this fucking place is really expensive. The Restaurant I got to for dumplings price is now double of what it was just 2 yrs ago.

My massage gal from Vietnam just left the room after an hour fuck for 500 mop and I didn't have to go anywhere. Been to FN many times in the last 8 yrs and it was good before the Chinese Gold Rush a few years ago. You could get a decent Viet gal for the Managers Special 798 mop before 7 pm. That is long gone and I prefer the plethora of Massage places near the Casa Real / Golden Dragon area. Lots of choices and a good backwalk and FS with a cute Viet massage girl for less than 800 mop.

PC out.[/QUOTE]No kidding about the expensive food.

Macau probably has the highest priced food of all the mongering places. And mediocre tasting at that.

Even if you eat just a little at the saunas, that meal is probably worth 20 mop on the street.

[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;1770835]No kidding about the expensive food.

Macau probably has the highest priced food of all the mongering places. And mediocre tasting at that.

Even if you eat just a little at the saunas, that meal is probably worth 20 mop on the street.[/QUOTE]Will have my 1st trip to Macau in a month; could you give us more info about these "plethora" of small massage places? Possibly names? Thanks!

I have reported so many places in my Macau reports. Just read them as well as others reports instead of asking it too be handed to you on a silver platter.

All the Viet places around Golden Dragon Hotel offer something or another. I had my V massagi gal come over everyday for 2 hrs of BBFS cip, DFK, GFE, love me long time sex this last week. My dick is kinda sore from all the fucking going on frankly. I don't spent 2-3 k mop on the saunas anymore. My money goes farther and better with these gals IMHO. Some of you newbies really need to go out and explore Macau, it aint that fucking big geeezzz.

Pc out.

[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;1770835]No kidding about the expensive food.

Macau probably has the highest priced food of all the mongering places. And mediocre tasting at that.

Even if you eat just a little at the saunas, that meal is probably worth 20 mop on the street.[/QUOTE]You can get an Egg tart for 10 mop, not bad too in the center near Grand Lisboa LOL. Best food is actually the Indian restaurant in Venetian. Its fantastic and great quality for 166 mop. There is a dumpling place in that strip mall area that Holiday Inn is in that really good but like I said earlier doubled in price.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1771803]I have reported so many places in my Macau reports. Just read them as well as others reports instead of asking it too be handed to you on a silver platter.

All the Viet places around Golden Dragon Hotel offer something or another. I had my V massagi gal come over everyday for 2 hrs of BBFS cip, DFK, GFE, love me long time sex this last week. My dick is kinda sore from all the fucking going on frankly. I don't spent 2-3 k mop on the saunas anymore. My money goes farther and better with these gals IMHO. Some of you newbies really need to go out and explore Macau, it aint that fucking big geeezzz.

Pc out.[/QUOTE]So I took a stroll around Golden Dragon / Casa Real yesterday, and didn't see any obvious viet massage places. Do they have obvious signage? Agree, it's not that big, especially around Golden Dragon since the only shops are literally on the ground floor of the complex itself. I saw one place called "Royal Massage", but when I went in it felt legit and I asked if they did only "regular" and they said yes.

Will take a look at your past posts to see if I can find them next time.

Also walked a bit around the smaller streets on my way to FN, nothing obvious there either, but maybe I was strolling too quickly!

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1772980]So I took a stroll around Golden Dragon / Casa Real yesterday, and didn't see any obvious viet massage places. Do they have obvious signage? Agree, it's not that big, especially around Golden Dragon since the only shops are literally on the ground floor of the complex itself. I saw one place called "Royal Massage", but when I went in it felt legit and I asked if they did only "regular" and they said yes.

Will take a look at your past posts to see if I can find them next time.

Also walked a bit around the smaller streets on my way to FN, nothing obvious there either, but maybe I was strolling too quickly![/QUOTE]He probably means the massage shops on the back side of Macau International Centre (Yes, that is the name of that rundown partly deserted building opposite Golden Dragon), but I am not aware of them being Viet.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1768990]I had a long overnight layover in HKG and decided to take the ferry over to Macau for the evening. Skypier makes it so convenient to get to Macau in just 50 minutes. On my way over to Macau I continued to debate where I was going to go, as I have been there before and had great experiences at Darling, East Spa, The One and East Castle. Since there appeared to be a lot of reviews of Familia Nobre and I had never been, I opted to check it out. In comparison to the other spas that I have visited, I would say Familia Nobre was okay but not better than the other places that I have previously visited and I would not put it on the top of my list.

I arrived at FN around 10:30 pm on a Thursday evening and it wasn't very busy. The inside of this spa is nice but I wasn't wowed by any means. I was immediately approached by a massage girl who offered a thigh massage for 198 MOP and I accepted. Instead of doing the thigh massage in the lounge, I was taken back to a small room. This pretty young lady was encouraging me to cum for an additional price but given how tired I was from the long flight, I wanted to hold out for my first session.

My only real complaint with FN is that I couldn't find ANYONE that could speak English to really understand how to fully enjoy the spa. I even asked one of the men that looked like a manager if anyone spoke English and he sent over a lady to me that could not speak English or understand anything that I said. Needless to say, I went back to my locker and got my iPad so I could get on this site and quickly try to read any reviews on FN to figure out who did what. There were lounge girls in white-green, white-red, all black, red-black, pink-black and all green. Sort of confusing for a first-timer when no one can speak English and explain.

After relaxing in the lounge and observing the activity, I soon figured that there were no shows tonight and the line-ups were by request only. There was actually a line-up for the gentleman sitting across from me so I got to see that backside of all the girls. The odd thing is that once this gentleman picked his lady, the ladies were dismissed and began to leave the lounge. I had to ask the manager to bring the ladies back for a line-up for me. Why not ask other men in the lounge if they want to see the line-up while they have all of the girls lined up in the lounge?

As for the ladies, like all the saunas in Macau, there are some very beautiful ladies and I opted for a very thin Chinese lady that was wearing a long sexy dress and really looked great. She escorted me back to a room (rooms are okay. Nothing too nice) and when she took off her dress I saw how skinny this lady was and how good her push-up bra was. She was actually a very sweet girl and seemed to feel a little embarrassed that she couldn't speak English but I assured her it was okay. My session with her was actually pretty good.

Back to the lounge for some rest and I chose to get a manicure and a shoulder massage from one of the Viet girls in white-green. I tried to convince her to give me a thigh massage as well but she politely declined and said she doesn't do the thigh massage.

I requested a second line-up and this time selected a pretty girl in a short pink dress with a very unique look. It turns out she was part Korean and part Russian. This girl spoke a few words of English. As good as she looked in her dress, she had stretch marks all over the cheeks of her ass. She gave me a good session and even appeared to be offering a second go but I just couldn't make it happen.

After a little rest in the lounge and shortly before my departure I saw a cute Viet girl in all black. She explained that she offers a full body massage for 998 MOP. She escorted me to the massage room and began a nice massage. Given my limited time before the ferry departure, I showed her exactly where I wanted her to focus her attention and she was able to make me finish just in time.

My total for the night was about 5,500 MOP for all of the services. It was a good night and another fun trip to Macau but I think East Spa and East Castle are my preferred destinations in Macau. Given what I read and watch on TV about the economic decline and reduced number of visitors to Macau from China, I will be interested in seeing the impact on the Macau saunas. For whatever reason, I never see Caucasian men in any of these saunas which leads me to believe that men from Europe, Australia and North America have no idea how pleasurable the Macau sauna experience is or they just prefer Thailand. My next destination![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Good read.

Regarding English in FN. My past experiences were good to excellent in terms of English communication there. A bit strange to hear that you were struggling to find anyone 'that could speak English'. Are you a native English speaker? I would by no means intend to sound offensive to Americans or Brits and base this entirely on experience and observation but I have noticed that native English speakers (especiallyt ones who do not have a command of any foreign language) tend to have a poorer comprehension of English when it comes to understanding non-native English speakers. Such as staff in Macau Saunas. They normally have at least a few staff with an acceptable level of English. Certainly enough to explain the rules and introduce to the facilities. At last it's been the case with me when visiting FN and other locations in Macau. My advice would be to speak slowly, clearly, not use 'fancy' words that might be unknown to people in that part of the world and always make sure they understand you without explicitly saying that (don't want them to feel uncomfortable or 'lose face'). Works well for me in all situations without exception. Even in China.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1772980]So I took a stroll around Golden Dragon / Casa Real yesterday, and didn't see any obvious viet massage places. Do they have obvious signage? Agree, it's not that big, especially around Golden Dragon since the only shops are literally on the ground floor of the complex itself. I saw one place called "Royal Massage", but when I went in it felt legit and I asked if they did only "regular" and they said yes.

Will take a look at your past posts to see if I can find them next time.

Also walked a bit around the smaller streets on my way to FN, nothing obvious there either, but maybe I was strolling too quickly![/QUOTE]If you come out of GD, take a left and a left. Its down on the right hand side. No signage except for the neon. Some older places across the street but this one is clean.

There was a place across from FN but it shut down. I had a nice Viet there as well.

PC out.

Thinking of visiting the saunas next January. Looking at accommodation, and found a great looking place in the Mong Ha area called Pousada de Mong Ha. I am wondering if this place is too far away from saunas.

I don't mind walking a bit as I'm only 21, but if girls are going to be put off coming back to my room due to distance then I'd rather look for somewhere else. How are taxis these days in Macau? Having read through some of the reviews it looks like they are extortionate.

Taxi's are fine if you get one from one of the hotels / casinos. Flagging one on the street can be a bit more of a problem. Like most places during the busiest times they will try to negotiate a fare instead of using the meter and like most places the negotiated amount is more than you would pay from the meter. I don't find it any different than NYC, Bangkok, or any other major city when demand gives them an opportunity to make an extra buck.

Only other thing to note is that the cab drivers have a lower level of english than your hotel staff, which is understandable of course. If you don't speak any mandarin it is good to have either your hotel card with the name in mandarin on it or your cell phone with a picture.

[QUOTE=DeathOrGlory;1776392]Thinking of visiting the saunas next January. Looking at accommodation, and found a great looking place in the Mong Ha area called Pousada de Mong Ha. I am wondering if this place is too far away from saunas.

I don't mind walking a bit as I'm only 21, but if girls are going to be put off coming back to my room due to distance then I'd rather look for somewhere else. How are taxis these days in Macau? Having read through some of the reviews it looks like they are extortionate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1776464]Taxi's are fine if you get one from one of the hotels / casinos. Flagging one on the street can be a bit more of a problem. Like most places during the busiest times they will try to negotiate a fare instead of using the meter and like most places the negotiated amount is more than you would pay from the meter. I don't find it any different than NYC, Bangkok, or any other major city when demand gives them an opportunity to make an extra buck.

Only other thing to note is that the cab drivers have a lower level of english than your hotel staff, which is understandable of course. If you don't speak any mandarin it is good to have either your hotel card with the name in mandarin on it or your cell phone with a picture.[/QUOTE]Cheers for the reply mate!

Ended up booking a hotel closer to the ferry terminal called Royal Lapa or something. Mandarin shouldn't be much of a problem as I study it at uni and will be coming here off a two month study trip in Xi'an.

Definitely looking forward to getting my "mong" on.

[QUOTE=DerTourist;1773347]Regarding English in FN. My past experiences were good to excellent in terms of English communication there. A bit strange to hear that you were struggling to find anyone 'that could speak English'. Are you a native English speaker? I would by no means intend to sound offensive to Americans or Brits and base this entirely on experience and observation but I have noticed that native English speakers (especiallyt ones who do not have a command of any foreign language) tend to have a poorer comprehension of English when it comes to understanding non-native English speakers. Such as staff in Macau Saunas. They normally have at least a few staff with an acceptable level of English. Certainly enough to explain the rules and introduce to the facilities. At last it's been the case with me when visiting FN and other locations in Macau.[/QUOTE]Being a non-native English speaker as well, I certainly agree with every word above. Of course, it's not very easy to communicate in English in Macau, but most of the staff in Familia Nobre could say 2-3 bearable sentences and I got aware about system quite fast (although I had read the forum before visiting so that really helped).

I have been to Macau sauna's about 20 times in the past 6 years on various trips and have never seen another caucasian, nor do I want to see one. The Asian customers keep a low profile (yes, even the Chinese!) and I don't want it to become like the Orchard Towers in Singapore ("4 floors of wh_res") which nowadays often has a bunch of fratboy Americans hooting-and-hollering with baseball hats on, running around chasing the girls.

If those fratboy idiots discover the Macau sauna's, it's game over for those enjoyable, relaxing visits. I don't even want to think about the problems that drunken Brits or Aussies would cause... :(

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1768990]
Given what I read and watch on TV about the economic decline and reduced number of visitors to Macau from China, I will be interested in seeing the impact on the Macau saunas. For whatever reason, I never see Caucasian men in any of these saunas which leads me to believe that men from Europe, Australia and North America have no idea how pleasurable the Macau sauna experience is or they just prefer Thailand. My next destination![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mrdurden;1780781]I have been to Macau sauna's about 20 times in the past 6 years on various trips and have never seen another caucasian, nor do I want to see one. The Asian customers keep a low profile (yes, even the Chinese!) and I don't want it to become like the Orchard Towers in Singapore ("4 floors of wh_res") which nowadays often has a bunch of fratboy Americans hooting-and-hollering with baseball hats on, running around chasing the girls.

If those fratboy idiots discover the Macau sauna's, it's game over for those enjoyable, relaxing visits. I don't even want to think about the problems that drunken Brits or Aussies would cause... :([/QUOTE]Yes, these islands of rest and relaxation and rooting do not need hoards of drunken, loud mouthed dipshits spoiling them. I have come across caucasians, of which I am one, on a few occasions. First at old D1 and twice at Sanado.

Also had a brief conversation with another Kiwi at 18 last visit. 18 months since my last visit and will be curious to check out the scene next Feb.

Couldn't agree me more. There is a time and a place for everything, and place for that is Nana Plaza and Angeles City, not Macau. I am often the only caucasian I see in most places, sauanas included, and I have never met another American which suits me fine. November will be my 6th trip to Macau and I can't wait. Is just a perfect place to start a vacation and cure the jet lag.

Only have two nights so limited time. Going to hit Darling 2 and familia nobre on day 1. Then houva for takeout (800 for 2 hours is a deal) and probably FN again on day 2, but may try castle for something new. Done 18 and RIO before, but FN is my go to, service and cost are the best I have found. Will report back what I find.

[QUOTE=Kiwistickman;1781270]Yes, these islands of rest and relaxation and rooting do not need hoards of drunken, loud mouthed dipshits spoiling them. I have come across caucasians, of which I am one, on a few occasions. First at old D1 and twice at Sanado.

Also had a brief conversation with another Kiwi at 18 last visit. 18 months since my last visit and will be curious to check out the scene next Feb.[/QUOTE]

In various threads on internet it's said Rio Spa (in Rio hotel) might be the best sauna in Macau. From my own experience yesterday, I couldn't confirm. Was the only Caucasian too, no problem with that. The facilities are huge and architecturally impressive but we all agree that that's not the aim of the visit! Admittedly I arrived early (5 pm) and there were only 14 girls, of which 4 from Vietnam, the cheapest ones. Prices were 2200 HKD for those (3 not doable), 2500 for some Chinese "non models" and 5100 for Chinese models (really beautiful). Since I am not Cresus, I opted for the 4th viet girl, nice person even though not a model. Service was as expected, quite professional, lot of fake telling and moaning of course. Ice and fire servicut more funny than exciting (to me). Nice staff serving free drinks and food. Despite having bought a package including ferry at Sheung Wan terminal, I was nevertheless charged 250 HKD more, ignoring why (all speak Chinese, so you can't understand), OK paid that. All in all, much much too expensive for what is, finally, a fuck. Unless you come to admire the location. No repeat for sure.

After the disapointment in Singapore time to be back at [I]THE[/I] place which is Macau. I actually visited FN a couple of weeks back but besides the regular routine stuff there was absolutely nothing memorable or interesting. Just part of the hit and miss I suppose.

Now about darling 1. I stayed in a nearby hotel which is a few minutes walk to the establishment. I have been there 3 times previously so know how it works and it's very straightforward: go to the seprate side entrance of the Masters Hotel which has an LED / neon sauna sign. Well visible from the main road. You can also get there via the main hotel lobby but unless you're the hotel guest perhaps better just use the side entrance. Go to the liftwhich is separate from the two hotel lifts and has a big sauna advert sign next to it. Go to the 3rd floor.

Upon getting to the 3rd floor you get straight into the sauna lobby and will be greeted by staff. Usually a lady who will greet you and offer to take a seat. Perhaps have a quick chat about what you're looking for and will get offered a drink. The ladies are right in the front sitting in a half-circle like area in 3 or 4 rows. Quite a few of them actually. 30? 40? Anyway plenty. A few real stunners. Could identify at least 3 or 4. And I tend to be picky. I'm only (and I do mean only) after skinny slender girls. By that time I already knew I'll have what I want at least when it comes to looks. It's only a matter of choosing one.

Now to provide with some context I will backtrack to last year (July-August time) when I had one of my best (2nd best, to be precise) experiences in establishments of this kind with a Vietnamese girl who was working in Darling 1 at the time. She was tiny in her frame (about 155 cm), slender little body with perfect proportions which clearly was kept in a good shape by exercising and not enjoying chocolates too much. A true and genuine little spinner. Precisely what I like. If you wonder how she looks like it's almost as if she's a twin sister of American-born Japanese porn actress Minami Sugisaki (Google for pictures). She looks almost exactly the same which is almost a bit creepy. It's quite hard to find girls like that these days which is why I was a bit surprised and very very happy. Moreover the little nymph was a true GFE type with a little bit of PSE which is such a great combination. Realy nice girl with great attitude and honesty about what she does.

Now why did I go back to last year? When entering Darling 1 yesterday I had a quick thought if that girl would still be here. I didn't remember her number or name. Nah, she probably won't, too much time I though. But then I see a girl who looks like her and is even sitting in the same location. I asked the lady from the reception and she confirmed that she's Vietnamese and that she was here last year. It's definitely her. Without even thinking I just took her and revisited last year's experience. She was happy to remember me too and did all things requested besides the routine bath stuff: BBBJ, DATY, rimming (on her), missionary, doggie, cowgirl, with HJ to finish while fingering her pussy deep and having a big long FK of which there was plenty throughout the whole time. No A-level but that's probably to be expected in Macau saunas. I did stick part of my finger in her ass which she did allow.

Even the routine bath process is something to behold: she rubs her pussy and ass against the dick in a way that it almost feels as if it may go in there by accident. It takes some talent to do that in such a gentle yet exciting way that gives an extra hard-on and plenty of good emotions. I know her number so if anyone wants to try her PM me and I'll reply back.

Just a wonderful experience in a wonderful place. And it's considered to be one of the cheaper establishments in Macau. Lucky those who live nearby or visit often because I don't think there are places anywhere in the world which can even remotely match Macau for this kind of stuff. Even Darling 1 alone probably blasts away anything outside Macau. While typing this I'm getting ready to be off to D1 again and see the little nymphet one more time.

Saw another skinny Viet gal. Nice Massagi and wet pussy Massagi.

Fucked her 5 ways to Sunday and cum on belly.

PC out.

For those who can't find it, it's in the alleyway there. It's on right, they claim legit massage at door but no worries I am batting a 1000 there LOL.

PC out.

Hello guys,

I have never been to Macau this will be my first time, but only 6 hours during a weekday afternoon, if anyone can suggest the best sauna in Macau in terms of the best looking girls / models please advice, I don't have a budget I can spend up to 10,000 hkd for the best looking and best service. As this is my first visit and because of the short stay, I really don't want to go from places to places.

So any suggestions would be great!

Cheers

[QUOTE=HaiHonglin;1788865]Hello guys,

I have never been to Macau this will be my first time, but only 6 hours during a weekday afternoon, if anyone can suggest the best sauna in Macau in terms of the best looking girls / models please advice, I don't have a budget I can spend up to 10,000 hkd for the best looking and best service. As this is my first visit and because of the short stay, I really don't want to go from places to places.
[/QUOTE]12 pm to 6 pm is not the best time to go Sauna hunting. The "A" team has not arrived yet. That said, Rio usually has the best lineup. Go as late as you possibly can. If you don't find what you want at Rio quickly head over to Familia Nobre. FN will call a lineup of available girls at any time. You can easily arrange back to back sessions at FN.

Great report Der Tourist. I have not been to Darling 1 since they moved to their new location at the Masters. I will have to check it out.

It is a damn shame about Geylang. I really used to like going there. Now all Singapore seems to have is high priced Brix for quality girls and it's not worth going out of my way to Singapore for. I will keep monitoring the Geylang scene, however, in the hope that things get back to the way it used to be.

[QUOTE=HaiHonglin;1788865]Hello guys,

I have never been to Macau this will be my first time, but only 6 hours during a weekday afternoon, if anyone can suggest the best sauna in Macau in terms of the best looking girls / models please advice, I don't have a budget I can spend up to 10,000 hkd for the best looking and best service. As this is my first visit and because of the short stay, I really don't want to go from places to places.

So any suggestions would be great!

Cheers[/QUOTE]For 10 k HKD, that's enough to fuck all the girls working at the MetroPark Hotel. There are some 7,8's there. Also all the girls working at Casa Real Hotel too but I don't think you have 12 shots in you do you? Haha.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1788906]For 10 k HKD, that's enough to fuck all the girls working at the MetroPark Hotel. There are some 7,8's there. Also all the girls working at Casa Real Hotel too but I don't think you have 12 shots in you do you? Haha.

PC out.[/QUOTE]I am lucky if I can get 3 shots within 6 hours LOL.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers

[QUOTE=HaiHonglin;1789360]I am lucky if I can get 3 shots within 6 hours LOL.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Then I would spend 2100 at Metropark. Eat 2000k at Sands Steakhouse and go back to HK satisfied and full of USDA Prime beef LOL.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1788644]Saw another skinny Viet gal. Nice Massagi and wet pussy Massagi.

Fucked her 5 ways to Sunday and cum on belly.

PC out.[/QUOTE]Yo PC, got the name of this joint next to Golden Dragon?

Can we take a PM as well, thanks.

[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;1790349]Yo PC, got the name of this joint next to Golden Dragon?

Can we take a PM as well, thanks.[/QUOTE]No name just go in the ally at GD and its on the right.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1790515]No name just go in the ally at GD and its on the right.

PC out.[/QUOTE]Isn't that Royal massage?

[QUOTE=Mrdurden;1780781]I have been to Macau sauna's about 20 times in the past 6 years on various trips and have never seen another caucasian, nor do I want to see one. The Asian customers keep a low profile (yes, even the Chinese!) and I don't want it to become like the Orchard Towers in Singapore ("4 floors of wh_res") which nowadays often has a bunch of fratboy Americans hooting-and-hollering with baseball hats on, running around chasing the girls.

If those fratboy idiots discover the Macau sauna's, it's game over for those enjoyable, relaxing visits. I don't even want to think about the problems that drunken Brits or Aussies would cause... :([/QUOTE]100 percent agree! I am a Caucasian but keep a completely low profile in the saunas. When in Rome. All of that. It's a great relaxing experience and something to look forward to. Sometimes I even work in those when I need to focus on a special project, some have free wifi. One of my favorites is "Fun Fun sauna" aka Windsor, which is more or less across the road from Galaxy Starwood hotel in that complex of jewelry shops and what not behind the service station. Recently remodeled. It's on second floor. Quiet, good service, and good value, most of the service is from Vietnam. Been going there off and on for a few years. Occasionally I ask the girls how often they see a westerner, the say it's rare. I am guessing if any "frat boys " came and disturbed the peace they would get tossed out straight away. A good thing.

Today I stopped off in Macau on my way to Hong Kong. I wanted to try out the HouVa action I had heard about here.

I booked myself into the Royal Macau. HouVa is easy to find – just walk across the park in front of the hotel and turn right. About half a block ahead on the left is the "spa". Once you go in it is pretty dumpy. The mommy will go look to see if you arrived by taxi. Tell her "no taxi". She then shows you a piece of paper with the pricing in Chinese characters. She also explains the services in English. The two-hour take-out is no longer available. Hotel take-out is now 80 minutes for 770 HKD.

I asked for the Viet lineup and about 18 girls came out with numbers on them. This was on a Friday evening about 5:45 pm. The mommy said to choose and write the number on a piece of paper. Once I began writing down the number, they all left to return to the back room. I chose a tall nicely shaped girl - #336.

She got dressed (the lineup attire wouldn't be appropriate on the street), prayed to the Buddha at the small temple that is set up, and off we went.

#336 is very nice looking – probably in her late 20's or early 30's. But her body was sweet perfection. No stretch marks and beautiful natural breasts. I'm not good at judging cup sizes, but they were large by Asian standards.

She did some fake moaning but performed well. She let it be known she could come back after she got off work. We worked on a second shot within the time frame, but it just wasn't happening – a phone call to her phone killed the deal.

I agree that HouVa is a bargain, but really wished that the 2 hour service was still available.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1790652]Isn't that Royal massage?[/QUOTE]I rarely look at the names so dunno but its there and I do well there.

PC out.

Was just at FN on a Tuesday and I have never seen this place so packed in the 7 years I've been coming here.

The casinos look empty but the saunas are full as fuck from talking to some of the fellas.

They can thank XJP for all this business.

[QUOTE=Jindodog;1790758]100 percent agree! I am a Caucasian but keep a completely low profile in the saunas. When in Rome. All of that. It's a great relaxing experience and something to look forward to. Sometimes I even work in those when I need to focus on a special project, some have free wifi. One of my favorites is "Fun Fun sauna" aka Windsor, which is more or less across the road from Galaxy Starwood hotel in that complex of jewelry shops and what not behind the service station. Recently remodeled. It's on second floor. Quiet, good service, and good value, most of the service is from Vietnam. Been going there off and on for a few years. Occasionally I ask the girls how often they see a westerner, the say it's rare. I am guessing if any "frat boys " came and disturbed the peace they would get tossed out straight away. A good thing.[/QUOTE]What's the going rates at this place?

IE: FN is 1788 for a visit + foot msg+90 min msg.

[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;1791656]What's the going rates at this place?

IE: FN is 1788 for a visit + foot msg+90 min msg.[/QUOTE]This place is across from my Fav dumpling restaurant LOL.

It was a shithole a year ago and talent was shit. Maybe owner work up and got rid of the old hags with bad attitudes finally and fixed the dump up as it needed it badly. Still I rather have more fun at the Viet Massaggi places by GDragon. That's my preference as this place Macau is more expensive than most any other monger destination by far. Shit spending 300 usd isn't my cup of tea if I can get a 3-1 or even 4-1 at other places. The food isn't worth it and I prefer to eat out.

PC out.

This might have been answered earlier but I can't find it. I'm guessing paying in HKD in cash is fine in all the saunas? And can you pay with Mastercard in FN for example? I'll be in China for a few months starting next week and I know that cash is basically the only method of payment.

[QUOTE=DeathOrGlory;1796237] I'm guessing paying in HKD in cash is fine in all the saunas? [/QUOTE]I think yes. I always read that HKD are well accept in Macau's Saunas.

I spent three days in Macau and tried the services of 3 well-known saunas. Here are my experiences:

1. 18 sauna.

Its reputation of having the best looking girls is without doubt. However, I wonder if the price is worth it. The line-up consists of mostly models which cost MOP2500; even the Viet girls cost MOP2400. I had a Chinese model. The service was of SOP quality; she just went through the routine. When it's done, she just left me lying on bed and disappeared into the shower. When she has finished, she urged me to get up to shower, dress and get out. Everything is so mechanical. No GF feel at all.

2. Darling 1.

This is a typical Thai massage place. There is no lounge and food. It has a good selection of girls, mainly Viets, not as pretty as 18 sauna, but cost only MOP1700. Chose a Viet who had a big smile. No rush and provided excellent service. GF feel throughout. I was told by the supervisor if I come in the evening, there will be more choices.

3. Familia Nobre.

I reckon this is the best of the three I visited. It has a nice lounge, spa and good food. For MOP1788, you get two free massages (which cost MOP186 each) on top of the full service. The line-up has a good selection, like Darling 1, consists of mainly Viets but of a higher quality. Again chose a Viet who provided excellent service with a relaxing body massage. Will definitely repeat.

Eddy.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1796657]I think yes. I always read that HKD are well accept in Macau's Saunas.[/QUOTE]HKD is widely used in Macau except in Starbuck which insists on transaction in MOP. Don't bother changing it to MOP because you have to change it back to your own currency when you leave. The difference between buying and selling MOP will eat up your saving in using MOP instead of HKD.

[QUOTE=Eddylane;1797027]HKD is widely used in Macau except in Starbuck which insists on transaction in MOP. Don't bother changing it to MOP because you have to change it back to your own currency when you leave. The difference between buying and selling MOP will eat up your saving in using MOP instead of HKD.[/QUOTE]Unless you go there 3-5 x a year, I would just change it and keep it like I do.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Lattelatte;1749499]Okay let me be more detailed, as I watched this more closely and found 3 scams which make me want to avoid 18 (except 18 has the best lineup).

1. Robe girls are really annoying and try to force a tip even though sign says "optional" they will tell you you must tip 100 or 200, those are the options. I'm sure they are not tips but the management squeezing customers so I do not believe girls get the money. $100 to hand you a towel?

2. Viet's are all working a scam doing backroom activities off the books. If you want it that's fine, but expect a noisy room, dodgy service, and have to pay cash off the bill. If you are going to do it, negotiate up front. Overall I find them annoying they are yapping all day while massaging you.

3. Big warning on add ons. The girls are priced say $2000 for normal, $2200 for models but the guy will show you a paper listing:

$2200 + $225= $2450 with some Chinese words on each, and he gets you to nod OK.

IF you pester to ask why its $2450 not $2200 as I did, he will say $2200 is girl, $225 is soap and some outfit, total is $2450.

The +$225 is a total ripoff. You get a tube of soap and some goofy outfit the girl doesn't even wear to sneak off another $225.

In fact when I questioned it, he took me to the side away from all other clientele to explain and I said remove that, and he did before going in.

I really love Macau due to lack of scams (compared to say Vegas, etc). Most other sauna are legit no scams, so this is a shame they are squeezing clients like this to make it feel so dodgy.

Also most of the 18 population suddenly are priced as models, similar to Rio. Used to be real models are tall, now anybody is a "model".[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. First of all, almost all the girls are models, even though they were good looking. I was shown a slip of paper stating the cost was $2520 but the price list clearly showed $2200 for a Chinese model which I chose. Also, the robe girls swoop on you handing you the robe and trousers, and demanded tips. I looked at her for a while and decided to give $20 which on hindsight was a bit too much for just handing me the clothes. It was a total scam. I would avoid 18 sauna at all costs.

Eddy.

I have been to Macau several times and have always taken the ferry from Hong Kong. On my upcoming trip I am flying into MFM. Since I normally buy my sauna vouchers at the ferry terminal in Hong Hong, I wanted to see if anyone can guide my on where I can buy vouchers at the Macau Airport.

My plan for this trip is to stay at the Grand Emperor and hit their sauna at the hotel (and possibly the KTV) on my first day, go to Darling during the afternoon on day two and then hit The One at the Landmark then finish at East Castle on night two.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1797295]I have been to Macau several times and have always taken the ferry from Hong Kong. On my upcoming trip I am flying into MFM. Since I normally buy my sauna vouchers at the ferry terminal in Hong Hong, I wanted to see if anyone can guide my on where I can buy vouchers at the Macau Airport.

My plan for this trip is to stay at the Grand Emperor and hit their sauna at the hotel (and possibly the KTV) on my first day, go to Darling during the afternoon on day two and then hit The One at the Landmark then finish at East Castle on night two.[/QUOTE]Best of my knowledge sauna packages with the token ferry ride in only sold at Shuntak in Shuen Wan, not even at the China Ferry Terminal in TST. I would try Houva but if you absolutely insist on over paying, then go to the ones you mentioned. LOL.

I like the Viet places around GD Hotel and they are very reasonable too. So the 6-7 k HKD you will spend going to the 3 you mentioned, I could have at least 8 cute V gals and have dinner money and lunch money too. JMHO.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1791809]This place is across from my Fav dumpling restaurant LOL.

It was a shithole a year ago and talent was shit. Maybe owner work up and got rid of the old hags with bad attitudes finally and fixed the dump up as it needed it badly. Still I rather have more fun at the Viet Massaggi places by GDragon. That's my preference as this place Macau is more expensive than most any other monger destination by far. Shit spending 300 usd isn't my cup of tea if I can get a 3-1 or even 4-1 at other places. The food isn't worth it and I prefer to eat out.

PC out.[/QUOTE]Hi PC, could you kindly provide details (e. G. , names, rates, locations) about the VN joints near Golden Dragon? As an alternative to FN, Hou Va, Darling 1 & 2, I'd like to check them out the next time I'm in town as I really like sweet young VN chicks! Thanks in advance bro.

[QUOTE=Bigstud;1797358] I really like sweet young VN chicks! Thanks in advance bro.[/QUOTE]Yeah thumbs up for those VN chicks! For a while, every time I went to Macau, I fell for those gorgeous Chinese working girls there. Then one day, I picked a VN girl from D1 (when they were at their old location) and I was stunned, excellent service to boot and just as pretty as the PRC chicks. Since then, I have been a convert to the VN camp.

[QUOTE=Eddylane;1797022]I spent three days in Macau and tried the services of 3 well-known saunas.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I stopped going to 18 a long time ago. I just don't trust them anymore. I always has a great time at D1 with the lovely Viet chicks. I also enjoyed FN, East SPA, and not so much Rio. I have not tried the new ones as I have not been to Macau recently.

[QUOTE=Bigstud;1797358]Hi PC, could you kindly provide details (e. G. , names, rates, locations) about the VN joints near Golden Dragon? As an alternative to FN, Hou Va, Darling 1 & 2, I'd like to check them out the next time I'm in town as I really like sweet young VN chicks! Thanks in advance bro.[/QUOTE]These are massage places around GD. This one is in the allyway and dunno name. The fun is in the hunt so do some hunting folks.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1797862]These are massage places around GD. This one is in the allyway and dunno name. The fun is in the hunt so do some hunting folks.

PC out.[/QUOTE]Thanks PC, sounds like fun hunting grounds for my next visit to Macau!

[QUOTE=Bigstud;1798249]Thanks PC, sounds like fun hunting grounds for my next visit to Macau![/QUOTE]Macau is like a box of chocolates you never know what V gal will fuck you bare long time.

PC out.

Went to Macau yesterday, but could not find Sanado. I thought I found the building, but it looks to be taken over by some restaurant, so off to 18 (I think that's name, across road from Fortune Hotel) No chinese chicks, and no indo girls either, all Vietnamese and no English or Chinese spoken, have app on their phones for translation. How the boss thinks this will work I don't know. No acceptance of bareback at all, bummer, previously a chinese chic and an indo did oblige.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1803142]Went to Macau yesterday, but could not find Sanado. [/QUOTE]I read that Sanado change name in East Castle Spa. New address: At the Casa Real Hotel, 1118, Dr Rodrigo Rodrigues, Macau, PR China. +853 2872 6288 _ [URL]casarealhotel.com.mo[/URL]‎.

Sanado is closed. The company that owns East Spa also owned Sanado. They opened up another sauna in a different location called East Castle after Sanado closed. I have not been to East Castle yet, but I hear is is pretty good. East Spa is one of my favorite Saunas in Macau. Rio and Familia Nobre are my other two favorites.

It has been quite a while since I have been back to Asia and was in Macau for the F1 race this past weekend and had a horrible experience at FN. Has Macau sauna services gone down the toilet or just my unlucky experience?

Got to FN around 8 pm and was greeted at the lobby by a female hostess. She was OK friendly and then led me to the male locker room where I was greeted by a male attendant. He led me to a locker, opened it and took out a bunch of dirty towels and indicated that I can use that locker. I looked at him incredulously and ask for a clean locker. He said no. There was plenty of empty lockers around. I insisted that I get a clean locker and he kept saying no. So I just got up and walked out. Don't think I will be back to FN anytime soon.

Went to East right after FN and found their services to be much more friendly and personalized. It was my first time there so was kinda weird to strip in front of female locker room attendants but since everyone was doing it, I figure why not do as Romans do in Rome! Was led to shower room where I got to pick a lady to help wash me down and a BBBJ with mouthwash. It felt good; got me excited but didn't let me pop. Stayed in the bath area while they brought in a lineup. Picked a nice, tiny spinner from Vietnam. Into the room, she did the regular nuru, cat bath, BBBJ, rim, and then pop on the raincoat for the little man and off we went. Quite a few positions and she had her eyes on me the entire time. Very GFE. Popped in reverse cowgirl position and she cleaned me up.

Overall, great experience; the price is a bit more expensive than FN (about HKD300 more) but well worth the attention, cleanliness and service, IMHO. Will definitely return to East and maybe tryout East Castle tonight where I heard they have cosplay!

Second trip to Macau this year, and this time I went with a friend, so always nice to have a wingman! He did some research and recommended Golden Sauna. Was easy to find, and on a Friday night, was quite busy when we arrived at 8 PM. Ushered upstairs, and was hit up by some middle-aged Vietnamese girls for some massages right away. Reasonable deals, 30 min massages around HK $170 I think.

Golden Sauna has become popular because it differs a little on the format. The girls here actually roam around and solicit business. So instead of being the hunters, you are being hunted, LOL! There's good and bad, with the positive being you can get to know the girls a little before you choose. The negative is that some whom you would not have chosen might come across as being kinda "pushy" as they solicit for your business.

What's fascinating about Golden is periodic "shows" where they have all the girls come out and rotate giving you a strip tease, breast play, licking on your inner thighs, etc. These small shows happen almost hourly. Apparently, there are a couple of BIG shows, where the girls will all come out and give each dude a rotating BJ, but we weren't able to get any seats for that. By 11 PM, which was showtime, the entire place was full of mongers.

I got one of the Vietnamese girls who was paying quite a bit of attention to me. She was very flirty, nice MMs, and gave good overall service, with nuru massage (extra $), great BBBJ, lots of rimming, covered FS in multiple positions.

We had a bit of time so went over to Familia Nobre next after a few hours of casino play. FN was not as crowded, and the lineup shown was very good, lots of 8 and 9's. I chose a tall Chinese girl, and the service was likewise very good, full body massage, great BBBJ, lots of rimming again, and covered FS in multiple positions.

We stayed at the Rio Hotel but didn't even have time to go check out the Rio Spa, which I really enjoyed during my last visit. Maybe next time!

[QUOTE=DickieRobert;1803854]
Overall, great experience; the price is a bit more expensive than FN (about HKD300 more) but well worth the attention, cleanliness and service, IMHO. Will definitely return to East and maybe tryout East Castle tonight where I heard they have cosplay![/QUOTE]How much you spend at East Spa?

I was in Hong Kong for my first time and I really want to check the famous Sauna in Macau. So I took the MRT till Sheung Wan, Exit D and I bought a voucher in Shun Tak.

2168 HKD including ferry ticket a/r, 60 min sex one shot with a regular girl, and one of this lounge service: body scrubbing or 2 x20 minutes massage (head, foot, leg, ecc.) or 1 x45 min body massage.

Immigration was very quickly and in 5 minutes I jump on a ferry and we leave HK at 10 am. One hour and I was in Macau, in front of the ferry many free casino shuttle waiting for customer. I took a Lisboa shuttle and walk around the city all day.

6:30 pm I decided that it was time for Sauna, so walk till Waldo Hotel and go up to the 6 Floor.

Give my voucher in reception and move to locker room, took off my dress and two assistants help me and arranging my clothes. Towel on and go inside the SPA, very nice. I had to choose one regular for free shower, I choose number 7. This shower is very ridiculous service, she don't take off her dress for take shower with me, just put some soap on her hand and wash my cock, than I sat on a little chair and she gave me a 10 seconds BBBJ with some liquid in her mouth.

I was very tired and I relaxed for 20 min in the jacuzzi while looking one asian guy have some fun in a jacuzzi next to me behind transparent bead curtains.

When I enter in the lounge room I can see that is real small, I read about it but don't thought that was too small like this. Only 5/6 asian guys around, so I orden some juice and plate of mixed fruit. And now the nightmare it began. Massage girls was incredible pushy, I thought that romanian gilrs in FKK was pushy but htey are nothing compared to the massage girls here in HK.

7:30 pm was time for showtime, another ridiculus service. Girls enter in the lounge room they wear only lingerie without underwear, 4 girls took turns for every customer, 1 girls just let you touch her boobs, second and third just rub on your body and the fourth have to give you a short BBBJ. All ladies seems a robot no one looked me in my eyes and girl that gave me BBBJ seemed disgusted, she wait long time before took 1 cm of my cock in her mouth for 5 seconds.

Showtime finish and all girls come in for lineup. OMG, and this was a famous sauna in Macau, never saw a collection of ugly girls like this. Regular were more nice than model! The manager told me in a very bad english that have 1 japanese girl +1600 HKD, 1 korean girl +2000 HKD and one top model (I don't remeber from where but she was the most ugly for me) +3000 HKD. Model +300 HKD. I looked all girls and said to him that at the moment I don't pick any ladies. And I want 20 minutes foot massage but can't enjoy because the lady gave me a massage was pushy for give 40 min and others girls come to me and offer their service. I really can't tolerate this place and can't understand how people enjoy it.

8:30 pm I was very bored if I hadn't a Voucher sure I would not choose any girls (so guys avoid voucher!!!) But I must to fuck, so I call the line up (only regular girl) I choose one little viet girl with big and soft silicon boobs and horny face (number 10) . She show me a menu with 3 different service (but can't recognise too much difference) A B C and she told me that she like A, ok deal.0

Move one floor up to the room, very nice big room. Shower together, she massage me with her boobs and gave me a boobs job, BBBJ and move on the bed. Fist she gave me a rimjob and then it was time for Hot & Cold BBBJ, my first time and was great, she sucked me for more that 20 minutes and after move to 69 where I licked her pussy and ass. Condom on cowgirl and doggy till I cum. Few minutes of relax, shower and go down. She gave me a bill where I have to assess her service and I gave her "very good". Because her BBBJ skills was great, but sure she wasnt a beauty that I thought to find in Macau for this expensive money.

Come beack down, order 3 sandwhich, french fries and a tea. I leave around 11 pm.

For me East Spa is a waste of money, I don't know about other saunas but I don't think I'll be back in Macau for Saunas.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1809160]For me East Spa is a waste of money, I don't know about other saunas but I don't think I'll be back in Macau for Saunas.[/QUOTE]All of Macau has become a waste of money for big spenders.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1803160]I read that Sanado change name in East Castle Spa. New address: At the Casa Real Hotel, 1118, Dr Rodrigo Rodrigues, Macau, PR China. +853 2872 6288 _ [URL]casarealhotel.com.mo[/URL]‎.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up, will try to find next time.

I have a nice ritual of starting my trips in Macao as after the long flight to Hong Kong I find a couple days in Macao a good spot to adjust to the time change and begin my holiday. After being a tourist in HK for the morning took an afternoon cotai jet over and got checked into the Conrad as my Hilton status and points always get me a good room.

Quick tip: I found that the business centers in the hotels don't overcharge for a local sim and is the same 100 MOP you get most places which with a data code always covers me for my trip and is more convenient than finding a local shop and the business center staff usually speaks english.

Had to meet a local buddy for dinner so moved pretty quick to freshen up and get a taxi to the sofitel so I could hit darling 1 at the masters hotel and get my holiday started. Was 4 pm on a Sunday last month. Good selection of girls, only a few in the higher "model" category. Decided to go viet and chose 332. Nice slim frame and legs and a good smile. Fare was 1750 MOP I think, I used my card so I backed into the math for this report, got to love those frequent flyer miles. Off to the room for around 90 minutes. Enjoyed that she was a light GFE and would kiss which is a big plus for me. Quality wash and BBBJ, multiple positions and my holiday had started. I don't visit darlings as much as I should, but I think I am going to make this a regular stop for at least 1 visit in all future trips. The quality of the girls and facility for 1750 MOP is a good deal comparably and haven't ever felt like I wasted my time here.

After a nice dinner with my local friend at Wynn's red 8. Try the peking duck, its done sorta like fajitas and is delicious. The xiaolongbao are also excellent if you haven't ever had soup dumplings before they are a must try. My buddy is a bit older and doesn't partake as much as you would think so my sauna experience is actually greater than his. He hadn't been to Rio before and I hadn't been there since my first sauna experience 3 years ago so off we went. Was a Sunday night in early November around 9 pm. Place was really pretty empty, especially for a weekend even if it was a Sunday night. Facilities were well maintained since my last visit and we showered and found some chairs. Took a while until the first showtime and I got the usual foot massage. Soon as they came through with the sign for the first showtime some eager fellas took off and had girls selected before we had even made our way. Selection was really pretty light for a place this size, maybe 30 girls at most and it didn't seem like others were engaged. We both deferred until showtime 2 about 30-40 minutes later. My buddy didn't see anything to his fancy, but I chose a PYT with a very Chinese look (straight black hair, bangs, way she did her makeup). Here english was limited but we got along fine, google translate makes everything easier. 23/24 year old Super nice body and the usual full Bush so many of these girls sport. I used to find the full Bush a bit off putting, but now sort of enjoy the change from what is standard these days. Usually body shower / slide and onto the bed for some fun. The hot / cold BBBJ and a cover and she worked it pretty well. I was either the first or second white guy she had ever been with and I believed it, definitely had to get adjusted to a larger size. Tried for a kiss but only got a little closed lip action which is pretty normal for sauna girls. Some different positions and she was game for everything, showed off her flexibility and really seemed to be enjoying herself which made the experience all that much better. As far as sauna girls go I would rate her an 7/10 looks 8/10 service. I was still pleased with my experience but for Rio prices I expect a bit more of a selection. Total 2500 MOP.

Question to the forum. Other than FN do any of the other shops offer discount on 2nd girl?

On the way back last night I did a quick stroll along the boulevard outside the holiday inn / conrad / hard rock to check out the freelancers. Not too many girls on a late Sunday night, maybe one or two doable ones, but nothing terrific.

Day 2 didn't quite go as planned after a nice lunch in taipa I headed back to pool for a little bit and was planning on going to get some takeout at houva. Laid my head down in one of the cabanas and out like a light. Seems that day 2 is always the harder on with jet lag as you get older. My friends plans changed so met up with him for dinner after work and then headed solo to FN as he was tired and had the whole work week ahead of him. FN has been my go to spot for a few years now as I done well in selection, price is lower, the 1 included service, and good staff have made it my favorite. This was a Monday night around 8 pm and like RIO the night before really quite empty and with a more limited selection. The downside to FN is that since lineups are on-demand when it's slow if you want to preview the girls at all it is difficult. After a couple massages and spying 1 or 2 lineups I spied a girl I hadn't seen before. Called for a lineup and chose the new face. She was a funny sweet girl from harbon China where the girls have a distinct look, maybe a little mongolian? Very little english again so google translate to the rescue. Standard service, very nice body and very cute. Unfortunately she was quite tight and got on CG went to town and I lost it way to quick, tried to stop her but she could tell she had me and there was no chance, hahaha. Enjoyed a nice cigarette with her and chat and back to the lounge. Still would have preferred a larger selection, but still plenty of choices at FN. Seems that the decline in business in Macao is definitly affecting the amount of talent at the saunas. Year over year gambling is down nearly 40% which I would say is showing given my 2 experiences. Maybe the saunas will start to offer some discounts? One can dream right? I can't remember the damage at FN cause I paid in cash. Last 4 times I went and selected to pay in MOP on the credit card they charged me an inflated USD exchange rate and annoyed me. My CC company gave me the difference back since I am a loyal customer, but none the less was annoying to have to followup and ask for a correction.

Once again, Michael, some great reporting. We seem to like the same places. BKK, Macau & the PI. I hit the big three plus lately Jakarta everytime I swing through Asia. I guess it is just another example of brilliant minds thinking alike. In Macau, Rio and FN are my two favorite places and I have had some great girls in both of them. Your description of less customers and less girls reflects what I witnessed the last time I was there too. In addition, Rio no longer offers thigh massages in a private room. You can only get one in the lounge area under a towel. I wrote about it in my last field report. Still, I am really looking forward to my next visit shortly although I am also beginning to worry that every future visit might be my last. The commie pinko bastards that run China seemed poised to shut down these saunas at any time. A black cloud hangs over Macau. My advice is go now while the going is still good.

Some board member asked recently if there is a discount for a 2nd session at Rio. The answer is yes. A few years ago I had a memorable session with a smokin' hot Chinese girl and afterwards I hung out in the lounge area relaxing. I skipped the next showtime, but when the showtime after that one convened I went along just to see if I had missed any of the talent earlier. But no, the sexiest girl in the line up was the girl I had just shagged. She smiled at me and I thought, "What the hell," as I picked her again. Crazy right? Absolutely, but she was still smiling and giggling as we walked out of the showroom hand in hand. Our 2nd session was more like a really great GFE than anything else. We dispensed with the bath, the B2B massage, the rimming, the catlicking and just started making out on the bed. Then after a lengthy and sloppy 69, we finished each other off with some great sex in multiple positions. I still remember that night. It was one of my all time best nights in Macau. Anyway, I noticed on the bill that the price was discounted for the 2nd session.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1819708]The commie pinko bastards that run China seemed poised to shut down these saunas at any time.
[/QUOTE]Not directly for the next 34 years.

Thanks Natty. If you can clear a space will send you a PM with some other info.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1819708]Once again, Michael, some great reporting. We seem to like the same places. BKK, Macau & the PI. I hit the big three plus lately Jakarta everytime I swing through Asia. I guess it is just another example of brilliant minds thinking alike. In Macau, Rio and FN are my two favorite places and I have had some great girls in both of them. Your description of less customers and less girls reflects what I witnessed the last time I was there too. In addition, Rio no longer offers thigh massages in a private room. You can only get one in the lounge area under a towel. I wrote about it in my last field report. Still, I am really looking forward to my next visit shortly although I am also beginning to worry that every future visit might be my last. The commie pinko bastards that run China seemed poised to shut down these saunas at any time. A black cloud hangs over Macau. My advice is go now while the going is still good.

Some board member asked recently if there is a discount for a 2nd session at Rio. The answer is yes. A few years ago I had a memorable session with a smokin' hot Chinese girl and afterwards I hung out in the lounge area relaxing. I skipped the next showtime, but when the showtime after that one convened I went along just to see if I had missed any of the talent earlier. But no, the sexiest girl in the line up was the girl I had just shagged. She smiled at me and I thought, "What the hell," as I picked her again. Crazy right? Absolutely, but she was still smiling and giggling as we walked out of the showroom hand in hand. Our 2nd session was more like a really great GFE than anything else. We dispensed with the bath, the B2B massage, the rimming, the catlicking and just started making out on the bed. Then after a lengthy and sloppy 69, we finished each other off with some great sex in multiple positions. I still remember that night. It was one of my all time best nights in Macau. Anyway, I noticed on the bill that the price was discounted for the 2nd session.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1818911]After a nice dinner with my local friend at Wynn's red 8. Try the peking duck, its done sorta like fajitas and is delicious. The xiaolongbao are also excellent if you haven't ever had soup dumplings before they are a must try. My buddy is a bit older and doesn't partake as much as you would think so my sauna experience is actually greater than his. He hadn't been to Rio before and I hadn't been there since my first sauna experience 3 years ago so off we went. Was a Sunday night in early November around 9 pm. Place was really pretty empty, especially for a weekend even if it was a Sunday night. Facilities were well maintained since my last visit and we showered and found some chairs. Took a while until the first showtime and I got the usual foot massage. Soon as they came through with the sign for the first showtime some eager fellas took off and had girls selected before we had even made our way. Selection was really pretty light for a place this size, maybe 30 girls at most and it didn't seem like others were engaged. We both deferred until showtime 2 about 30-40 minutes later. My buddy didn't see anything to his fancy, but I chose a PYT with a very Chinese look (straight black hair, bangs, way she did her makeup). Here english was limited but we got along fine, google translate makes everything easier. 23/24 year old Super nice body and the usual full Bush so many of these girls sport. I used to find the full Bush a bit off putting, but now sort of enjoy the change from what is standard these days. Usually body shower / slide and onto the bed for some fun. The hot / cold BBBJ and a cover and she worked it pretty well. I was either the first or second white guy she had ever been with and I believed it, definitely had to get adjusted to a larger size. Tried for a kiss but only got a little closed lip action which is pretty normal for sauna girls. Some different positions and she was game for everything, showed off her flexibility and really seemed to be enjoying herself which made the experience all that much better. As far as sauna girls go I would rate her an 7/10 looks 8/10 service. I was still pleased with my experience but for Rio prices I expect a bit more of a selection. Total 2500 MOP.

Question to the forum. Other than FN do any of the other shops offer discount on 2nd girl?[/QUOTE]Nice report but.

I refuse to spent this much money at Rio FN or any other Sauuna these days as I can have 4-5 different Massagi Viet gals come to the hotel for more GFE and a nice sleepover for a 500 MOP donation. I have many do this already and it's worth it IMHO as its 2-3 pops and morning breakfast in bed.

Macau is 3-4 times more expensive than my Phils trips pussy wise. I can have massage girls come over all nights for 2-3k pesos or 42-66 USD. Only my Viet massage gals in Macau come close.

PC out.

To my fellow mongers,

Having traveled an mongered all over the world for the last 30 years, there was one box still to be ticked: The Macau saunas.

At last, I will be able to check those places for a short stay of 48 h later this month.

I have done my home work, RTFF, and got good info from other sources as well.

I am 60+ and look for some pampering by nice girls, with happy ending of some sorts, , and those places seems just offering that. AI am not anymore in the bar game, and not interested anymore in FL. Just wanting to spend time relaxing in a sexcharged environment and getting serviced.

I will be staying at the Rio, and have listed the following places as possible places to g to: Rio, FN, East s and Golden.

Am I missing another must-go place? And is there any reason to choose one rather than another? I will have roughly 3 half days, so may be should I go to 2 or 3?

Anyway, just in case some of you have some advice, thanks in advance.

Best,

Dreams

[QUOTE=Dreams;1823821]To my fellow mongers,

Having traveled an mongered all over the world for the last 30 years, there was one box still to be ticked: The Macau saunas.

At last, I will be able to check those places for a short stay of 48 h later this month.

I have done my home work, RTFF, and got good info from other sources as well.

I am 60+ and look for some pampering by nice girls, with happy ending of some sorts, , and those places seems just offering that. AI am not anymore in the bar game, and not interested anymore in FL. Just wanting to spend time relaxing in a sexcharged environment and getting serviced.

I will be staying at the Rio, and have listed the following places as possible places to g to: Rio, FN, East s and Golden.

Am I missing another must-go place? And is there any reason to choose one rather than another? I will have roughly 3 half days, so may be should I go to 2 or 3?

Anyway, just in case some of you have some advice, thanks in advance.

Best,

Dreams[/QUOTE]If you stay at the Rio try first their sauna and most likely you will be hooked up there for the whole stay.

It doesn't come for cheap, beware.

The convenience of a sauna in the same hotel you stay is that your room will be just a lift ride away.

In some cases you can also set a deal with a girl in your room to see you after her shift. Their shifts time changes are not fixed, they depend on each girl.

Rio became more expensive in recent years, all girls are priced supermodel but the facilities are top.

Recommended side services are the body scrub, thigh massage (despite no more performed in the private room / cubicle).

If you don't take the full, body massage option, try the 60 or 90 minute massage only and you will be a happy man, bit cheaper.

Yes, since you're already there, I would do the Rio first. Then, FN and make sure you are there 1-2 hrs before the show, get a foot massage while another one cleans your ears (double stimuli), a shoulder massage while another one does a pedicure, a thigh massage in a room to get really horny, and tell them you want to see the show, around 10 pm. You will experience a strip club lap dance on steroids, culminating in a brief BJ next to 20 horny guys, then you get to pick a hot Vietnamese for more fun in the private room. #711 made me very happy.

Plan for a good 3-4 hrs.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Dreams;1823821]To my fellow mongers,

Having traveled an mongered all over the world for the last 30 years, there was one box still to be ticked: The Macau saunas.

At last, I will be able to check those places for a short stay of 48 h later this month.

I have done my home work, RTFF, and got good info from other sources as well.

I am 60+ and look for some pampering by nice girls, with happy ending of some sorts, , and those places seems just offering that. AI am not anymore in the bar game, and not interested anymore in FL. Just wanting to spend time relaxing in a sexcharged environment and getting serviced.

I will be staying at the Rio, and have listed the following places as possible places to g to: Rio, FN, East s and Golden...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1824000]If you stay at the Rio try first their sauna and most likely you will be hooked up there for the whole stay.

It doesn't come for cheap, beware.

The convenience of a sauna in the same hotel you stay is that your room will be just a lift ride away.

In some cases you can also set a deal with a girl in your room to see you after her shift. Their shifts time changes are not fixed, they depend on each girl.

Rio became more expensive in recent years, all girls are priced supermodel but the facilities are top.

Recommended side services are the body scrub, thigh massage (despite no more performed in the private room / cubicle).

If you don't take the full, body massage option, try the 60 or 90 minute massage only and you will be a happy man, bit cheaper.[/QUOTE]Thanks, very useful. I know this is not going to turn out to be 2 inexpensive days, but it is probably once in a life time visit to the Macau saunas, so.

From what you say, I have few reasons to bother walking somewhere else. FN have good reviews, but it seems to be the same services, not necessarily significantly cheaper?

Best,

Dreams

[QUOTE=Dreams;1823821]I will be staying at the Rio, and have listed the following places as possible places to g to: Rio, FN, East s and Golden.[/QUOTE]Avoid East Spa! I been there one month ago and I was very disappointed. Pushy girls in the lounge make me crazy and annoyed me all the time and poor quality in the line up, I thought that Macau Saunas were famous for their "model", but I don't saw any models. It was a waste of money for me.

Like you I really wanted to try this famous Saunas, I did and for me is not worth the price. IMHO.

On another forum I saw some stolen shots of Rio lineup, and again the quality I saw don't worth the money. Always IMHO.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1823821]To my fellow mongers,

Having traveled an mongered all over the world for the last 30 years, there was one box still to be ticked: The Macau saunas.

At last, I will be able to check those places for a short stay of 48 h later this month.

I have done my home work, RTFF, and got good info from other sources as well.

I am 60+ and look for some pampering by nice girls, with happy ending of some sorts, , and those places seems just offering that. AI am not anymore in the bar game, and not interested anymore in FL. Just wanting to spend time relaxing in a sexcharged environment and getting serviced...[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Rio. It's a nice hotel recently renovated, and the sauna is top notch, although a little spend. Although I will add that I spent more at FN but only because I totally indulged in everything more than once. As mentioned, you can no longer get a thigh massage in a private room, but there is nothing quite like getting a shoulder, foot, and thigh massage at the same time. They do put a towel over you so none of the other punters and see. My girl kept lifting up the towel so the other girls could see. They also kept offering to come to my room later, but I had already booked a girl from FN for that. They probably had 30 girls for the lineup when I was there and almost all of them were lookers. The one I picked, however, was kind of a dud. Too mechanical, but gorgeous.

FN did not have nearly the lineup. They do the thigh message in a private room, however. I ended up picking the thigh message girl for FS, but they charge 3000 HKD for that. When I went back to Macau a second time, they let me take that same girl out for the whole night for 4000 HKD. She has moved back to Vietnam and I've visited her there. Typically FN is cheaper, but it's not as nice as Rio.

[QUOTE=Mysons3;1824149]
FN did not have nearly the lineup. They do the thigh message in a private room, however. I ended up picking the thigh message girl for FS, but they charge 3000 HKD for that. When I went back to Macau a second time, they let me take that same girl out for the whole night for 4000 HKD. She has moved back to Vietnam and I've visited her there. Typically FN is cheaper, but it's not as nice as Rio.[/QUOTE]You must have really liked your Viet Thigh massage girl at FN to have agreed to pay more for her than even the Chinese model girls. Ha Ha! I know where you are coming from. Back in 2011, I meet an Indonesian thigh massage girl at FN. We went to the private room and she blew me instead of giving me a thigh massage. She is a rebel. After our "thigh massage" session I wanted to shag her so I paid the outrageous extra fee for her full service. I think back then it came to 2500 mop. I felt it was very outrageous and FN was taking advantage of me, but I liked the girl so I went ahead with it. Money is only money. So we went to a regular room for our full length session. She was great. We had two shags during that particular session which is unusual for Macau Sauna girl to give. I said she was a rebel and she had her own way of doing things. After our 1st shag we made out and I got hard again. We were both fresh out of condoms, but she didn't care. I will never forget that naughty look she gave me as she climbed back on board for the 2nd round. She paused briefly and gave me that look allowing me the opportunity to decline. I acknowledged it and non verbally gave her the go ahead. Then she slowly impaled herself on my cock. It was one of my best sessions I ever had in Macau. Incidentally, she was my 1st Indonesian girl anywhere. We kept in touch for a couple of years and we got back together again one time in Macau later that same year and another time in HGK the following year. She has since moved around a bit and spent a year in Paris. Last I heard she is living and working in HKG. What a gal. Worth every MOP I ever gave her!

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1824135]Avoid East Spa! I been there one month ago and I was very disappointed. Pushy girls in the lounge make me crazy and annoyed me all the time and poor quality in the line up, I thought that Macau Saunas were famous for their "model", but I don't saw any models. It was a waste of money for me.

Like you I really wanted to try this famous Saunas, I did and for me is not worth the price. IMHO.

On another forum I saw some stolen shots of Rio lineup, and again the quality I saw don't worth the money. Always IMHO.[/QUOTE]Hi Christian,

Looks like form this and previous posts that you were disappointed in Macau. Well, as you say, each of us needs to make his own opinion, and I very much look forward to my experiences.

Maybe your expectations were too high?

Personally, my needs are not models looking girls or top optifuck girls. I am a veteran, and I need nice friendly girls, or women should I say, who will take great care of me, so that I have no effort to make to be satisfied. If you see what I mean. And I love Asian women.

Anyway, watch this space, I will report after my visit.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1824331]You must have really liked your Viet Thigh massage girl at FN to have agreed to pay more for her than even the Chinese model girls. Ha Ha! I know where you are coming from.![/QUOTE]Oh man. You better believe it. You know how it is when you click with someone. The mechanical nature of the typical WG goes out the window and it's far more enjoyable, just like your experience. I paid a lot for her in Macau but I certainly got my money's worth from visiting her in Vietnam. I almost damn near married her but she doesn't want to leave Vietnam because of her family. She wants me to come again this year and I might. The problem is that those of us in the hobby have a hard time giving that up so we pretty much make terrible husbands. I live in the US and am seriously thinking of retiring to Vietnam someday.

Hello fellow punters,

It's been a while since I had a dream about going to Macau and finally I arrived here. I was very excited at first, but the adventure troubles have been getting over me. First of all, I was walking a lot and within 2 days I got a huge blister about a coin size on my foot. It's getting better now, after I treated it with stuff at hand. Still, it hurts when I walk.

-Will I be allowed in the sauna or is it safe going there with this? I know I'd be safe if I went for a usual punt, but showering or sauna without proper sandals seems scary.

For the first time I'm thinking about East Castle Spa or Familia Nobre.

-Does East Castle still have a discount promotion - 20% off if you leave before 6 pm?

-Is it true that East Castle staff has only female and has plenty of English speakers in it?

Thanks a bunch for help.

On my recent trip to Macau from HK as a first-timer I stopped by Familia Nobre after checking into the old Lisboa hotel. The location was easy to find even without a SIM card. Comparing this to how HK saunas greet you at the door is night and day. I never went into any HK saunas because they never even brought a girl out and were not keen on showing you the place before payment. At Familia Nobre at least, they lead me through the main hallway into a big room that resembled a dance club or small strip club. The man told me to wait five minutes. I saw a stream of about 60 girls of all nationalities walk in and face me for around two minutes. After agreeing to come in, he sent them on my way and I begun my journey.

The showering facilities were okay. Ended up making friends with a few of the Filipino girls working the area. One of the "scrub" girls, the most attractive of the bunch, was flirting with me and playing with my cock in the shower area. Wish I could have taken her for FS. Saw several fat older Asian men walking around nude with no shame. Do try the hot / cold tub in the area. It's a great way to get the body going. Also, the music they were playing and high lighting is good for waking up if you are feeling tired.

After changing into their clothes and slippers I was assigned to a chair. There were several other customers in the area, all Chinese guys. Not many people spoke good English. I was hounded for a special "happy ending" massage which was way too expensive at around $200 USD. However, it was two hours long and it was close to, if not, the hottest Vietnamese girl I had ever seen. After a while I ended up taking her offer and agreed to the massage. For such a small woman, she had amazing strength and it was the best oil massage I have gotten. Afterwards she ended up trying to jerk me off and she realized I was having a tough time finishing. She took her clothes off. Out came the best natural pair of tits I had ever seen on an Asian girl! Seriously these things must have been natural perky DS on this thin, young Vietnamese woman. She ended up finishing me off with a tit job with the oil between them. I was begging her for FS as I could not get over how attractive this seemingly "average" (for thin, young Vietnamese women) this girl seemed in her conservative dress before disrobing. Never saw it coming with how perfect her body was and it just made me go crazy. No amount of money seemed to get her okay with FS. So I relented to letting her finish me off with her over-sized natural perky breasts. She said later she cannot emotionally handle having FS with clients. I figured she must have had some very rich / powerful boyfriend.

After a while of watching movies, eating a lot, drinking the delicious warm milk, and not being able to sleep, I called for the All-Star lineup. It took about 5 minutes but they listed all the girls from "supermodel" to "local". Some of the girls seemed more enthusiastic than others. I ended up choosing a local Chinese girl, 19 years old with a flawless skinny athletic body with nicely-done plastic tits. It included a soapy massage along with FS for around $250 USD.

She took me to the room, which was quite a walk. In there she begun the soapy massage. During the whole time she had the biggest grin that set the mood for the rest of the experience. After being dried off and moving to the bed with the porn playing, she begun to give me a passionate BBBJ. She knew exactly how to work it and enjoyed doing so for about 15 minutes before I needed to bang this lovely woman. After putting a condom on we commenced to the deed and did so for another 15-20 minutes, with me finishing in her bent over the bed. Really wish you could have a video taken here as it was like living in a porn movie!

After the session I ate some more and met two American guys. It was nice seeing some Western people there. We had a long conversation about various topics. The chicken wings and warm milk here are worth the price of admission.

Getting tired I went to their bunk-bed room down the hall. While the beds were good enough, although not very long, there were a few guys snoring loudly in the room. I could not sleep so I decided to check out and head back to the hotel.

On my way there were a few ladyboys and other street walkers that tried to get my attention. I was too tired and just ended up passing out early in the morning in my normal hotel room.

Hi everyone,

I'm going to take my first trip (just one day) to Macau and looking forward to take look at those saunas. I've done some work (friends, forum, internet etc), and my plan was East spa for the AV scene room and spend the rest of the night at 18.

However, when I read through the posts here, I found that not many are talking about East sauna and 18 doesn't get a very high reputation neither. It seems that people are more interested in FN, gold, darling etc.

So, do I understand everything all right? Since I just have one day in Macau (and no more in the late future), I really hope it could be a good experience.

Thanks for any advice!

[QUOTE=Faceless78;1853221]Hi everyone,

I'm going to take my first trip (just one day) to Macau and looking forward to take look at those saunas. I've done some work (friends, forum, internet etc), and my plan was East spa for the AV scene room and spend the rest of the night at 18.

However, when I read through the posts here, I found that not many are talking about East sauna and 18 doesn't get a very high reputation neither. It seems that people are more interested in FN, gold, darling etc.

So, do I understand everything all right? Since I just have one day in Macau (and no more in the late future), I really hope it could be a good experience.

Thanks for any advice![/QUOTE]For AV you have to check East Castle Spa, not East Spa. I been in East Spa last December and I was disappointed, low quality girls and very pushy lounge staff also their showtime are simply a joke, ridiculous!

About 18 I don't read great reports nowadays but I heard that they always have a huge line up.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1853238]For AV you have to check East Castle Spa, not East Spa. I been in East Spa last December and I was disappointed, low quality girls and very pushy lounge staff also their showtime are simply a joke, ridiculous!

About 18 I don't read great reports nowadays but I heard that they always have a huge line up.[/QUOTE]Ah yes it's east castle, I sometimes mistake one for the other.

The huge LU is what I'm looking for, since my time is rather limited, I don't have the chance to check too many saunas.

[QUOTE=Faceless78;1853263]Ah yes it's east castle, I sometimes mistake one for the other.

The huge LU is what I'm looking for, since my time is rather limited, I don't have the chance to check too many saunas.[/QUOTE]If you travel from Hong Kong by ferry you could check for the sauna voucher at Shun Tak. Sheung Wan Hong Kong.

I've RTTF, and noted $190 m at FN for thigh massage. Any prices at 18? And Rio?

Thanks!

Vagigilover

May someone give the address of main Sauna (Rio, 18, etc) in HK?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Toptraveler1;1879996]May someone give the address of main Sauna (Rio, 18, etc) in HK?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Will be tough to find those saunas in HK as they are in a different location called Macau and that, by a lucky chance as I doubt you RTFF, is the thread you posted your request.

What do you do once you are there? Any plan? Any idea of the services?

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1880024]Will be tough to find those saunas in HK as they are in a different location called Macau and that, by a lucky chance as I doubt you RTFF, is the thread you posted your request.

What do you do once you are there? Any plan? Any idea of the services?[/QUOTE]Don't feel yourself obliged to answer to every post you may understand in the forum.

I sent you pm.

[QUOTE=Toptraveler1;1880135]Don't feel yourself obliged to answer to every post you may understand in the forum.[/QUOTE]

Long time lurker due to inactivity, but now have some activity in past few months of travels to report on. As a newbie, my feedback will probably be best as a starter guide for newbies too.

Darling 1:

Great place with cheaper price after midnight. Same service, slightly less selection but still great service. I highly recommend this as a first stop for someone who is in Macao for the first time.

Darling 2:

Same as Darling 1 but a budget version and quite an out of the way location. Recommend sticking to Darling 1, though you do save about MOP 400 or so.

Familia Nobre:

I know lots of posters love this place, but I have to say that I found the service in two occasions to be varied and OK at best. I think Darling has a way better system of quality control. Not sure how management conducts quality assurance monitoring but it's probably quite fun.

Also, the women giving massages and other services can bug you like crazy.

Hou Va:

A bit ghetto, I found. The shower area in the room is dark, and dirty. The room looks like you are in the boiler room of an old freighter. The service wasn't great, though it may vary by person.

Well, my first report, but more to come. All in all, Macao's incredible with lots of options, though all the good ones are expensive.

Enjoy newbies!

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LOL!

I was in HK for a few days for a conference and had a chance to take a trip to Macau. I also mongered a bit in HK. That part of the TR is posted in the HK section.

I went to Macau with a buddy of mine that was also in HK for the same conference. He is a non-monger and I was hoping to entice him to join me at one of the Saunas. He ended up chickening out. Btu we did have a nice afternoon seeing the sights. Macau is a very unique place. A little piece of the Mediterranean in the middle of Asia. Very cool. We also had a fabulous Macanese dinner at Restaurant Litoral. If you have not had Macanese do yourself a favor and go and try it. It is an incredible fusion of Portuguese / Chinese / Brazilian and African flavors. Incredible. We washed it all down with a couple of bottles of Vinho Verde. Wine is relatively cheap in Macau (maybe they have some kind of deal going as a former Portuguese colony).

After dinner we had a drink at the long bar in the casino of the Grand Lisaboa hotel. They had a troop of Russian cabaret dancers doing a show on the stage behind the bar. Some of them even getting topless during their number. The Chinese guys were enthralled and a crowd gathered behind us to watch the show. But I was just meh. There was also a FL at the other rend of the bar who was trying to grab our attention. She looked good, but was a little too tall and had pretty big hands. She definitely set off our LB radar.

After drinks we parted ways, my friend returning back to HK, while I was determined to cast myself into the fleshpots of Macau. First I wanted to see the famous Lisaboa Hotel racetrack. The old hotel is just across the street from the Grand Lisaboa. I walked up and down looking for it and even asked an incredulous cop where the girls were. LOL. But it was nowhere to be found. I later read from Natty that the police have shut it down. I really regret not having seen it as I heard the girls were very beautiful. Oh well.

I grabbed a cab and somehow explained to the guy to take me to Familia Nobre. I know there are other saunas with better lineups and what not. But I wanted to get the full old school spa treatment as this was my first time.

The cab dropped me off and I walked up the stairs to the main entrance. I explained to the lady it was my first time. She asked if I wanted to see a lineup. Hell yeah! It was around 10 PM and apparently a good time to come. She ushered me into a long hallway then on to a large side room. We sat down on a long couch and she handed me a menu with the girls' prices according to nationality. Then the lineup came in. 30 girls of variety of nationalities" 2 Koreans, 5-6 Russians, 3 Singapore girls, a Taiwanese, about 6-7 Chinese girls, 10-12 Vietnamese, and even one plump Jamaican gal. It was not the hottest lineup I have ever seen but it certainly was one of the largest and with the most variety. There must have been at least 30 girls there. The Korean girls were the most expensive, more than 3000 MOP. And while they were certainly pretty they were nowhere near the model / TV commercial quality girls from Rio that Natty described in his last TR. The Vietnamese girls were cheaper (under 2000 MOP) and all were very cute. But I wanted to try something different and the Taiwanese girl really caught my eye. Tall, slim, with long black hair, fair complexion and a nice set of see cups that were popping out of her tight black dress. At least for me she was the most attractive girl of the bunch. She was also very friendly and kept meeting my gaze and smiling at me. Her price was right too at "only" 2400 MOP. #993 and her name was Auhn (or something like that).

I picked her and she seemed genuinely happy to be chosen. We walked down a very long corridor arm and arm with her snuggling up against my chest. This girl was tall! In her heels she was at least 3-4 inches taller than me. Her legs seemed to go on forever. The girl was a real knockout!

We got to the room and she put on a porno DVD (some lesbian action) while she disappeared for a while to get towels, lube and other stuff. I took a very quick shower so that I'the be ready for her when she got back. She got back just as I was brushing my teeth and though it was very amusing. I toweled myself off and approached her as she began undressing. With her heels off she was only a few cm shorter than me. I pulled her to me and we had a nice long kiss. She was a bit reluctant at first but we eventually DFKed. Naked her body was very nice. She was a bit curvier than one would have expected, but in a good way. The see cups were sillies. Btu they were nice and not too hard to the touch.

She motioned me over to the bathroom. After cleaning the family jewels she had me lie face down on a long bench and she began the soapy type massage. Pretty standard stuff. Tits on but. Pelvis on back. Etc. And it felt nice. But I was damn horny so I cut it short and told her I wanted to move to the bed. She was very obliging and kept thanking me for picking her the whole time. I returned the compliment telling her she was the most beautiful girl there.

Auhn gave me the most wonderful BBJ, working my shaft up and done with her pretty face. She varied her speeds slow and then fast and stopped every once and a while to lick my palls and tongue the base of my shat. It felt amazing. This girl had skills.

This was getting me super horny and I just had to get insider her. I pulled on a Sagami and slipped into her in Mish. Being a big girl, she was not all that tight. But it still felt great. She was very responsive and we kissed passionately as we humped away. We ran through the gamut of positions: cowgirl, doggy, mish again, doggy with her on all fours and me standing off the bed, and then spoon. This girl was well toned – like an athlete. I loved kneading her meaty ass as I pounded away. The room has mirrors at every angle (and above the bed) so you get a great view. I especially dug the view while we were in spoon as I could see her reaction to my thrusting and admire her breasts as I fondled them. As someone said earlier, it's like starring in your own porno. I need to get some mirrors installed in my bedroom. LOL.

I was ready to come so we switched to mish and I pounded away, not holding back. Just before I was ready to blow I slipped out pulled off the condom and sprayed my load all over her chest and neck. Auhn took it like a champ with no complaints. I collapsed down beside her and we cuddled for a while as I massaged the semen into her body. "Good for skin!" I told her and we laughed.

We showered and she soaped me off gently. I was completely relaxed. She kept thanking me for choosing her. This girl was so sweet! We got dressed and I handed her a 200 MOP tip. She beamed and gave me a warm hug and kiss. We walked out of the room and down the hallway full of girls and customers arm and arm as the other girl. Me the proud peacock with my beautiful Taiwanese sweetie. She walked me to the exit of the ST area and gave me a final hug and kiss.

A great shag with a sexy sweet Taiwanese girl! Mission accomplished.

I then started the sauna part of the evening. The facilities I saw were nice and clean and well maintained. The service girls were cute, though maybe one or two of them were hot enough to make the lineup. As far as I could tell they were all Vietnamese.

I disrobed and locked up my stuff in a locker. After the locker room you walk through the hot tub and sauna area. There are girls in Bikinis that offer to bathe you. Two were very cute girl next door types. One in particular was nice and curvy and had shapely little be cups that were popping out of her top. The girls were very friendly and squeezed my pecs and I squeezed back as they giggled. They looked like fun. I declined their offer but took a mental note to come back later.

The next room is a big lounge with recliner chairs where they will assign you a seat and give you the menu. Most food and nonalcoholic drinks are free. I ordered a beer and I think it was 30 MOP. The attendants and service girls are very attentive. Massages and other services (ear cleaning, bathing, etc) are al priced on the menu. The first massage is free as part of the spa package (which in turn is free if you take a girl for FS). I had a petite little VN girl named JuJu (or something like that) give me a nice massage. Her friend also wanted to get into the act and to earn their fee. LOL. One of Jujus friends even started playing with my dick while Juju was massaging me. They are very pushy with these services. I don't remember the prices but they are not cheap. I think a foot massage was 200 MOP.

Juju finished her massage and kept pestering me to continue. But I really was not in the mood. I finished my beer, ordered some food and cold tea, and then dozed for a while. I woke up after a brief nap and thought I'the try a Japanese bath with one of the soapy girls. I got up to go to the bathing / sauna area and approached the girl to get a bath. But something was wrong with the main bath and it was being drained. She said we could do it in the cold or hot tubs. I had taken a dip in both earlier and they were way too cold / hot for me to enjoy my time with the girl. And I don't think she'the be very comfortable in either tub. So I declined. Maybe I could have taken her into one of the shower cabins? In any case that option was not offered.

She told me to come back in a few hours and they would have the problem with the big bath solved. But I was getting bored and it was time to bounce. I wish my buddy had come with me. It would have been a lot of fun to spend the time there together. But alone there really wasn't' all that much to do. Unless you spend a lot of money on services. I also decided against a 2nd FS session. I was pretty tired from the first one and from hiking around Macau doing tourist stuff all day in the heat. I wanted to save my money and cum for another shot at the 141 scene (see report in HK thread). So I bid my goodbyes and grabbed a taxi to the ferry terminal, just in time to catch the 2:30 AM boat back to HK. There is also a late night ferry at 4 AM and then they resume the regular schedule at 6 AM. The ferry took about an hour back and I was back in my hotel bed by 4 AM.

All in all it was a great short trip. I will be back to explore lovely Macau and the Sauna scene further. I think I will try Rio next time to see if the girls match Natty's description of them. And I am sure I will be back to FN one day soon to get that Japanese bath. I'the love to do an overnight if I can find the time next trip. But I also want to take time to take full advantage of the 141 scene in HK. Decisions. Decisions. These are problems it is nice to have!

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1909706]I was in HK for a few days for a conference and had a chance to take a trip to Macau. I also mongered a bit in HK. That part of the TR is posted in the HK section.

I went to Macau with a buddy of mine that was also in HK for the same conference. He is a non-monger and I was hoping to entice him to join me at one of the Saunas. He ended up chickening out. Btu we did have a nice afternoon seeing the sights. Macau is a very unique place. A little piece of the Mediterranean in the middle of Asia. Very cool. We also had a fabulous Macanese dinner at Restaurant Litoral. If you have not had Macanese do yourself a favor and go and try it. It is an incredible fusion of Portuguese / Chinese / Brazilian and African flavors. Incredible. We washed it all down with a couple of bottles of Vinho Verde. Wine is relatively cheap in Macau (maybe they have some kind of deal going as a former Portuguese colony).

After dinner we had a drink at the long bar in the casino of the Grand Lisaboa hotel. They had a troop of Russian cabaret dancers doing a show on the stage behind the bar. Some of them even getting topless during their number. The Chinese guys were enthralled and a crowd gathered behind us to watch the show. But I was just meh. There was also a FL at the other rend of the bar who was trying to grab our attention. She looked good, but was a little too tall and had pretty big hands. She definitely set off our LB radar.

After drinks we parted ways, my friend returning back to HK, while I was determined to cast myself into the fleshpots of Macau. First I wanted to see the famous Lisaboa Hotel racetrack. The old hotel is just across the street from the Grand Lisaboa. I walked up and down looking for it and even asked an incredulous cop where the girls were. LOL. But it was nowhere to be found. I later read from Natty that the police have shut it down. I really regret not having seen it as I heard the girls were very beautiful. Oh well.

I grabbed a cab and somehow explained to the guy to take me to Familia Nobre. I know there are other saunas with better lineups and what not. But I wanted to get the full old school spa treatment as this was my first time.

The cab dropped me off and I walked up the stairs to the main entrance. I explained to the lady it was my first time. She asked if I wanted to see a lineup. Hell yeah! It was around 10 PM and apparently a good time to come. She ushered me into a long hallway then on to a large side room. We sat down on a long couch and she handed me a menu with the girls' prices according to nationality. Then the lineup came in. 30 girls of variety of nationalities" 2 Koreans, 5-6 Russians, 3 Singapore girls, a Taiwanese, about 6-7 Chinese girls, 10-12 Vietnamese, and even one plump Jamaican gal. It was not the hottest lineup I have ever seen but it certainly was one of the largest and with the most variety. There must have been at least 30 girls there. The Korean girls were the most expensive, more than 3000 MOP. And while they were certainly pretty they were nowhere near the model / TV commercial quality girls from Rio that Natty described in his last TR. The Vietnamese girls were cheaper (under 2000 MOP) and all were very cute. But I wanted to try something different and the Taiwanese girl really caught my eye. Tall, slim, with long black hair, fair complexion and a nice set of see cups that were popping out of her tight black dress. At least for me she was the most attractive girl of the bunch. She was also very friendly and kept meeting my gaze and smiling at me. Her price was right too at "only" 2400 MOP. #993 and her name was Auhn (or something like that).

I picked her and she seemed genuinely happy to be chosen. We walked down a very long corridor arm and arm with her snuggling up against my chest. This girl was tall! In her heels she was at least 3-4 inches taller than me. Her legs seemed to go on forever. The girl was a real knockout!

We got to the room and she put on a porno DVD (some lesbian action) while she disappeared for a while to get towels, lube and other stuff. I took a very quick shower so that I'the be ready for her when she got back. She got back just as I was brushing my teeth and though it was very amusing. I toweled myself off and approached her as she began undressing. With her heels off she was only a few cm shorter than me. I pulled her to me and we had a nice long kiss. She was a bit reluctant at first but we eventually DFKed. Naked her body was very nice. She was a bit curvier than one would have expected, but in a good way. The see cups were sillies. Btu they were nice and not too hard to the touch.

She motioned me over to the bathroom. After cleaning the family jewels she had me lie face down on a long bench and she began the soapy type massage. Pretty standard stuff. Tits on but. Pelvis on back. Etc. And it felt nice. But I was damn horny so I cut it short and told her I wanted to move to the bed. She was very obliging and kept thanking me for picking her the whole time. I returned the compliment telling her she was the most beautiful girl there.

Auhn gave me the most wonderful BBJ, working my shaft up and done with her pretty face. She varied her speeds slow and then fast and stopped every once and a while to lick my palls and tongue the base of my shat. It felt amazing. This girl had skills.

This was getting me super horny and I just had to get insider her. I pulled on a Sagami and slipped into her in Mish. Being a big girl, she was not all that tight. But it still felt great. She was very responsive and we kissed passionately as we humped away. We ran through the gamut of positions: cowgirl, doggy, mish again, doggy with her on all fours and me standing off the bed, and then spoon. This girl was well toned like an athlete. I loved kneading her meaty ass as I pounded away. The room has mirrors at every angle (and above the bed) so you get a great view. I especially dug the view while we were in spoon as I could see her reaction to my thrusting and admire her breasts as I fondled them. As someone said earlier, it's like starring in your own porno. I need to get some mirrors installed in my bedroom. LOL.

I was ready to come so we switched to mish and I pounded away, not holding back. Just before I was ready to blow I slipped out pulled off the condom and sprayed my load all over her chest and neck. Auhn took it like a champ with no complaints. I collapsed down beside her and we cuddled for a while as I massaged the semen into her body. "Good for skin!" I told her and we laughed.

We showered and she soaped me off gently. I was completely relaxed. She kept thanking me for choosing her. This girl was so sweet! We got dressed and I handed her a 200 MOP tip. She beamed and gave me a warm hug and kiss. We walked out of the room and down the hallway full of girls and customers arm and arm as the other girl. Me the proud peacock with my beautiful Taiwanese sweetie. She walked me to the exit of the ST area and gave me a final hug and kiss.

A great shag with a sexy sweet Taiwanese girl! Mission accomplished.

I then started the sauna part of the evening. The facilities I saw were nice and clean and well maintained. The service girls were cute, though maybe one or two of them were hot enough to make the lineup. As far as I could tell they were all Vietnamese.

I disrobed and locked up my stuff in a locker. After the locker room you walk through the hot tub and sauna area. There are girls in Bikinis that offer to bathe you. Two were very cute girl next door types. One in particular was nice and curvy and had shapely little be cups that were popping out of her top. The girls were very friendly and squeezed my pecs and I squeezed back as they giggled. They looked like fun. I declined their offer but took a mental note to come back later.

The next room is a big lounge with recliner chairs where they will assign you a seat and give you the menu. Most food and nonalcoholic drinks are free. I ordered a beer and I think it was 30 MOP. The attendants and service girls are very attentive. Massages and other services (ear cleaning, bathing, etc) are al priced on the menu. The first massage is free as part of the spa package (which in turn is free if you take a girl for FS). I had a petite little VN girl named JuJu (or something like that) give me a nice massage. Her friend also wanted to get into the act and to earn their fee. LOL. One of Jujus friends even started playing with my dick while Juju was massaging me. They are very pushy with these services. I don't remember the prices but they are not cheap. I think a foot massage was 200 MOP.

Juju finished her massage and kept pestering me to continue. But I really was not in the mood. I finished my beer, ordered some food and cold tea, and then dozed for a while. I woke up after a brief nap and thought I'the try a Japanese bath with one of the soapy girls. I got up to go to the bathing / sauna area and approached the girl to get a bath. But something was wrong with the main bath and it was being drained. She said we could do it in the cold or hot tubs. I had taken a dip in both earlier and they were way too cold / hot for me to enjoy my time with the girl. And I don't think she'the be very comfortable in either tub. So I declined. Maybe I could have taken her into one of the shower cabins? In any case that option was not offered.

She told me to come back in a few hours and they would have the problem with the big bath solved. But I was getting bored and it was time to bounce. I wish my buddy had come with me. It would have been a lot of fun to spend the time there together. But alone there really wasn't' all that much to do. Unless you spend a lot of money on services. I also decided against a 2nd FS session. I was pretty tired from the first one and from hiking around Macau doing tourist stuff all day in the heat. I wanted to save my money and cum for another shot at the 141 scene (see report in HK thread). So I bid my goodbyes and grabbed a taxi to the ferry terminal, just in time to catch the 2:30 AM boat back to HK. There is also a late night ferry at 4 AM and then they resume the regular schedule at 6 AM. The ferry took about an hour back and I was back in my hotel bed by 4 AM.

All in all it was a great short trip. I will be back to explore lovely Macau and the Sauna scene further. I think I will try Rio next time to see if the girls match Natty's description of them. And I am sure I will be back to FN one day soon to get that Japanese bath. I'the love to do an overnight if I can find the time next trip. But I also want to take time to take full advantage of the 141 scene in HK. Decisions. Decisions. These are problems it is nice to have![/QUOTE]Am I reading this right- that session cost $300 USD. How long was the session?

[QUOTE=Voyager1;1909811]Am I reading this right- that session cost $300 USD. How long was the session?[/QUOTE]Yea indeed you are. Sauna prices are steep! The session lasted about an hour.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1909706]Macau Day Tripping June 2016[/QUOTE]Excellent first-hand report of your time in Macau and the local spa / sauna scene, Uncle. Well done and thanks for sharing!

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;1913604]Excellent first-hand report of your time in Macau and the local spa / sauna scene, Uncle. Well done and thanks for sharing![/QUOTE]It was my pleasure (literally) .

Haha.

I am glad you liked the report.

I've only been to East Spa in Waldo and they only have mainlands at those ridiculous prices.

Which spa should I go to if I want Korean or Vietnamese girls? Will a budget of 1500-2000 MOP suffice? If Koreans are 3000 and above I will just settle for Vietnamese.

You are not going to find any koreans in Macao for 2000 MOP. Plenty in NYC and LA for that though. Will have to be Vietnamese. Pretty much every sauna has vietnamese under 2000 MOP. Selection at FN on Vietnamese was solid in May.

[QUOTE=Greenarcher;1920021]I've only been to East Spa in Waldo and they only have mainlands at those ridiculous prices.

Which spa should I go to if I want Korean or Vietnamese girls? Will a budget of 1500-2000 MOP suffice? If Koreans are 3000 and above I will just settle for Vietnamese.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1920318]You are not going to find any koreans in Macao for 2000 MOP. Plenty in NYC and LA for that though. Will have to be Vietnamese. Pretty much every sauna has vietnamese under 2000 MOP. Selection at FN on Vietnamese was solid in May.[/QUOTE]I had one of my best ever punt with a young Viet at Golden dragon. YMMV, of course, but there you can socialise with the girl before moving on, so your chances of a good session are increased, when compared with other saunas where you just have to make a quick chick form a parade.

How much did you pay for the Viet in Golden Dragon? How was the selection?

Went into Darling #1 a couple of times last week during afternoon / evening hours and saw this hot looking #325 (I think she's Vietnamese). Very hot face and great body. Well proportioned, but not super skinny nor chubby. Just right for my tastes. Very friendly with a great attitude, and felt very GFE with eventual DFK. Highly recommend if that's something you like, though I wouldn't recommend if you're only interested in over the top PSE. Good energy level throughout and makes you leave feeling like you were well taken care of. Liked her so much that I chose her again for a second time, which was even better and more GFE. All in all, I think D1 is the place to go unless you want to spend hours in a KTV salon, which is not really my thing.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1921774]I had one of my best ever punt with a young Viet at Golden dragon. YMMV, of course, but there you can socialise with the girl before moving on, so your chances of a good session are increased, when compared with other saunas where you just have to make a quick chick form a parade.[/QUOTE]Is that Sauna 18 you're referring to? I saw the parade once but the girls didn't hang around to chat after.

First had a real nasty experience while getting Visa On arrival at the immigration counter. Had to show them enough cash, return ticket, hotel voucher. Then only they cleared. I think there had been many illegal migrants recently from India so they have made the process more strict for Indians.

Anyways after checking into hotel, went out for the xploration.

Went to Golden Sauna this time first. The xperience was very good infact.

Straight to locker area, packed all stuff, given a pair of slipper and towel went to the Japanese style shower area, gone for it. The bath was given by somewhat not so good looking girls, had to sit on a you shaped chair, first facing font and then reverse, and standing on both sides. They give a real good bath and shower from top to bottom and give you a good hard on twice. It must be around 10- 15 minutes session. One more thing, there were other two naked Chinese men getting the bath nearby. So all naked men nearby, just to keep all informed. No separate cubicles or bathrooms here.

Real nice Cost 128 MOP. There were two tubs nearby if anyone wish can take a dip in those. I didnot.

Then I went to the lounge area where there were many recliners. Was alloted one. Lied down was covered with a towel. Asked for drinks, food. Got it in a moment.

There were all Chinese men around all enjoying. One can also carry their mobile phones inside. If you want them to charge your mobile, they have special lockable lockers with chargers for all type of mobile phones too.

Someone or other person called for the line up every 15- 20 minutes. There were not many too good options although seemed to be average. All were mostly Asians (Chinese, Thai, Vietnam). I didnot see a single European girl.

Then gone for the head massage which was just average. Cost 128 MOP. Then gone for the Famous Thigh massage. Girls were not so hot, but the massage was quite good. It was done inside the towel in the lounge itself. No private rooms.

Then selected a Tall Chinese cutie (5-7) No 100. I liked her very much Name I think is Honey. Perfect figure, Medium sized natural boobs. Went to the rooms downstairs. Rooms were good ceiling mirrored.

In the room had a real nice experience. First was taken to the shower room where there was a S shaped bed where I had to first lie in the doggy position and she gave a very good bath to the back side including the jewels and anal region. She also gave an awesome boob massage. It was followed by a slow erotic rimming, teabagging and awesome BJ. The best experience I ever had.

After that was asked to lie on back and same thing to the front side.

After drying up, went to the room. Again she started from lip kiss to kissing nipples, chest, abdomen and then a repeat of BJ, teabagging, rimming. Real awesome experience.

Then she put on the condom and started riding me Cowgirl. After a good 10 minutes. I asked her to lie down, Pumped her in Missionary, then Doggy. Lastly asked her to again come on top Reverse Cowgirl and finished in the position.

After that we cuddled and lied down together for another 15 minutes. She literally slept in my arms. I had to wake her up. She must be sleep deprived. I told her You are very beautiful. She instantly told me then why don't you take me to your Home? I had no answer. I thought, if really I had that option could have gone for it.

Anyways end of a very good session. Came out. Gone to the locker area, hanged, paid and ca, me out.

Total bill around 1800 MOP + 300 cash to be given to girl directly (had to go to locker area inbetween to bring the cash). Girls Full session cost 1100+ 300=1400 MOP.

Next headed to MGM Casino till 5 AM in morning played some slot machines, etc gone to hotel and rested till 10.

Again at 11 am before leaving thought of having another experience. Checked out of Hotel and headed to the Famous Ho Moon (Familia Nobre Saune). It was a bad decision. Reached there by 12 Noon. Didn't bother to see the line up (Again bad decision), went direcly to locker area, changed gone to tub area. No girl available for bath took shower myself and went to changing area there was also no one had to wait and call for someone then was given the short and dress.

Went to the Rest area-lounge. There were 3-4 other Asian men resting. No girls at all. After having fruits and tea, I asked where are the girls. The manager said only one available for massage. So had no option selected one for a head massage. Then asked for line up they say only 1 Thai was available. My God, My last experience a month before was so good. I thought the timing is not right. Last time I was here at midnight and this time I am here at noon. I left immediately All 700 MOP gone in Vain 650 MOP entry, what a waste. I had to catch a ferry at 2 PM.

Immediately left to hotel for collecting luggage. In front of Hotel I saw the darling 2 in the Masters Hotel. Thought of giving a good try.

So the Darling2 experience (Hurried one):

Entered the Masters Hotel, went inside then Lift and Ithing 2nd Floor the Darling massage.

Went in Oh there was a Fish Bowl (reminded me of Annies in Bangkok). Selected one Thai No 11 (Name Oh), tall, good figure good boobs.

Had to pay 1200 MOP at the front desk in advance and 500 to be paid in cash to the girl in the room Total cost 1700 MOP.

Went inside the rooms. Rooms were good. Full mirrored ceiling. She went to start water in the bathtub, cam eto me asked me to get in my birthsuit. CGave me a good oil massage including body to body boobie massage. Then went to bath tub where she washed each and every part od my body including BJ. Both side, then standing shower. Came back to bed had a nice session, all positions, awesome blowjob with listering in mouth or hot water in mouth I don't know butthe feeling was great. Put on the condom. Then riding in all positions, doggy, finished again in revere CW.

I then went for a quick self showr washed everything changed and went away as I was in a hurry to catch Ferry to Hongkong airport as I had my Flight at 7 pm.

Hope the recent experience will give all an updated account of these two places at least.

Lesson learnt: never enter the Sauna without seeing the available Line up or you will be ripped apart a sme what happened in Familia Nobre sauna.

[QUOTE=Greenarcher;1922734]How much did you pay for the Viet in Golden Dragon? How was the selection?[/QUOTE]Vast section, lots of 7-8. I don't recall exactly the price, but less than 2000.

[QUOTE=ScoobieDiver;1924634]Is that Sauna 18 you're referring to? I saw the parade once but the girls didn't hang around to chat after.[/QUOTE]Name is Golden sauna, I think, not golden dragon. Anyway there is only one sauna with golden in its name.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1926224]First had a real nasty experience while getting Visa On arrival at the immigration counter. Had to show them enough cash, return ticket, hotel voucher. Then only they cleared. I think there had been many illegal migrants recently from India so they have made the process more strict for Indians.

Anyways after checking into hotel, went out for the xploration.

Went to Golden Sauna this time first. The xperience was very good infact.

Straight to locker area, packed all stuff, given a pair of slipper and towel went to the Japanese style shower area, gone for it. The bath was given by somewhat not so good looking girls, had to sit on a you shaped chair, first facing font and then reverse, and standing on both sides. They give a real good bath and shower from top to bottom and give you a good hard on twice. It must be around 10- 15 minutes session. One more thing, there were other two naked Chinese men getting the bath nearby. So all naked men nearby, just to keep all informed. No separate cubicles or bathrooms here..[/QUOTE]Yes. Don't go to FN during day time, boring. Same at Golden, where girls come out and hang on in the lounge between parades.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1926224]First had a real nasty experience while getting Visa On arrival at the immigration counter. Had to show them enough cash, return ticket, hotel voucher. Then only they cleared. I think there had been many illegal migrants recently from India so they have made the process more strict for Indians.
Went to Golden Sauna this time first. The xperience was very good infact.

Straight to locker area, packed all stuff, given a pair of slipper and towel went to the Japanese style shower area, gone for it. The bath was given by somewhat not so good looking girls, had to sit on a you shaped chair, first facing font and then reverse, and standing on both sides. They give a real good bath and shower from top to bottom and give you a good hard on twice. It must be around 10- 15 minutes session. One more thing, there were other two naked Chinese men getting the bath nearby. So all naked men nearby, just to keep all informed. No separate cubicles or bathrooms here.

Real nice Cost 128 MOP. There were two tubs nearby if anyone wish can take a dip in those. I didnot.

Someone or other person called for the line up every 15- 20 minutes. There were not many too good options although seemed to be average. All were mostly Asians (Chinese, Thai, Vietnam). I didnot see a single European girl.

Then gone for the head massage which was just average. Cost 128 MOP. Then gone for the Famous Thigh massage. Girls were not so hot, but the massage was quite good. It was done inside the towel in the lounge itself. No private rooms...[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Saunas tend to be terrible during the daytime, with the exception of Darling 1, which has staff 24 hours. By the way, you mention going to Darling 2 in the Masters Hotel. Don't you mean Darling 1? That is the one within Masters Hotel.

Glad to hear you had a good experience at Golden Sauna. Personally, I find their sauna to be too small (like Eighteen) and the women to be too suffocating as they try to get you to choose them. Also, I would say they tend not to look as good as FN.

[QUOTE=ScoobieDiver;1926367]I agree with you. Saunas tend to be terrible during the daytime, with the exception of Darling 1, which has staff 24 hours. By the way, you mention going to Darling 2 in the Masters Hotel. Don't you mean Darling 1? That is the one within Masters Hotel.

Glad to hear you had a good experience at Golden Sauna. Personally, I find their sauna to be too small (like Eighteen) and the women to be too suffocating as they try to get you to choose them. Also, I would say they tend not to look as good as FN.[/QUOTE]Yes, Golden is small, and quite crowded. But that's what I like about it, it's more lively. At Rio, for instance, it's huge, quite empty and lacks atmosphere.

IMHO. To each his own.

I got to FN at around 10 PM and requested to see the girls first. There were around 7 girls from Vietnam, 1 from Africa, 3 Russian, 2 Koreans and 7-8 Chinese.

Cheapest was the Vietnamese then the Chinese. The Chinese were fairly good but I was really looking for Viet. Got one for 2200++ HKD. Service was OK but very mechanical. Speaks basic Mandarin, no English.

Went back to East Spa for the 3rd straight year. This year's selection was definitely the best, not to mention they added Viet girls one of which I got. Extremely satisfied with her service, very pretty and very professional. Speaks both Mandarin and English very well. Sensible to talk to as well. Price is the same but I got this for free since it was for "business". On top of mostly Chinese girls, they also have a few Koreans as well.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1926278]Name is Golden sauna, I think, not golden dragon. Anyway there is only one sauna with golden in its name.[/QUOTE]Hotel where 18 is located. Golden Sauna is indeed verbatim. I am trying Golden Sauna in November, after prior tries at Beverly, 18, Rio, FN. As long as they have inexpensive thing massage!

I recently re-visited Sanua Eighteen "18 Sauna" It is located on the sixth floor of the Golden Dragon Hotel.

I have visited many times in the past with great memories, but, I have not been for several years. While is was nice to see some familiar staff and acquaintances, that is where it ended.

I sincerely wished I had not visited and left my prior memories intact. What I experienced was a major disappointment.

There was no chance to relax. The staff was extremely pushy from the beginning. I was stormed and solicited for tips constantly. I fraught my way through the hordes to the lounge area to spend some time and wait for the line up. In the lounge my wing-man and I were surrounded instantly by no less then 15 people that would not take no for an answer in their offering of the many spa services. We each ended up surrounded by five or six massage girls. Each girl took a foot; leg, head, shoulder etc. I had to push away a couple massage guys. LOL. The massage was not at all relaxing. The exception was the infamous thigh massage. After all what not to like about a thigh massage?

When the music started signaling the beginning of the lineup we moved to the staging area and watched the girls on the raised area. It has not changed in routine. Five or six girls who preform a snuffle dance with various degrees of enthusiasm, ending in stripping and running for cover once the music stops.

The lineup was disappointing. There were maybe 35-40 girls, mostly older and ordinary. The exception were about 5 Korean girls that were priced at $4,000 HKD and came highly recommended. But, for a little over $500 USD the answer was a no go for me.

Bottom line, my two friends and I were not inspired to meet the talent and decided to leave.

The total for three guys. Tips, 1/5 hour lounge massage only. Some food and soda. About $ 3,000+ HKD or over $385+.

You decide.

This topic gets covered more in the thailand forum, but I couldn't find much of a discussion here. I used to always just finish in the condom type of guy, but have been enjoying doing a CIM finish lately. In a discussion with friends it seems that pulling out and cuming on the girl's tits or stomachs is a lot more popular than I ever knew. Guess you can't be too old to learn new things, haha. But anyway I wanted to know what other's experiences have been with CIM with the sauna girls? Something they do or hit / miss? Or are they like thai girls and quite cum phobic and will pull off at last minute and make it just a handjob finish? Thanks for sharing.

Getting around:

Using the hotel shuttles is a free and convenient way to get around. From the ferry terminal you can get to almost any major hotel. The Wynn shuttles seem to be the most frequent with a new shuttle showing up at the ferry terminal almost every few minutes during peak times. You can also use the shuttles to get from the Macau side to the Cotai side. My favorite is the Venetian to Sands shuttle which if you are staying on the Cotai side will put you within walking distance of many saunas on the Macau side. A taxi ride from Cotai to Macau will usually cost about 50-70 MOP.

Familia Nobre (FN):

There's a lot of info here already on FN so I will just summarize for the newbies and provide some updated info. Prices have gone up a lot. The current FS prices are as follows (regular / VIP rate):

Japanese (4188/3888).

Super Star (3388/3188).

European (2988/2688).

Star (2588/2388).

Regular (2288/1938).

FS prices include 1 free massage service (foot, shoulder, thigh, etc.) normally priced at 218 or 2 free services if you are VIP member. It costs 188 to sign up for a VIP membership. The free show starts around 1130 so make sure you are in the last section of the lounge near the dining area at that time. Girls rotate 4 times and perform various acts with the final girl performing a 30-45 sec BBBJ. Then a full line up is presented for you to choose for FS. You may decline to choose. Girls work staggered shifts will the first girls available for FS around 1 pm and last call around 7 am. Peak times are 8 pm to 1 am when you will likely get the biggest line-up about (30-40 girls). Like most saunas, you can sleep overnight at FN to save some money. The shared room is all the way at the end of the you shaped hall. Just ask and the hostess can escort you there. There are probably 20-30 bunk beds that are hard as a rock. There will be a bunch of dudes snoring pretty loud. Don't expect luxury. Will feel more like a military barrack. Overall, quality of the girls has slipped a little but still solid. Service was pretty good. FN is still one of the better values in super expensive Macau. Will post more info on Darling, Emperor, East when I feel up to it.

As many of you may already know, Macau is quite expensive for everyone on this forums favorite hobby. The quality is no doubt top notch, but even still, for the amount of money you'the end up spending on a few days in Macau, you could easily fund a trip for 7-10 days in a place like Pattaya, Thailand. Inclusive of airfare, hotel, entertainment, and girls (a bit of a side note, I once found a roundtrip ticket with Air Asia from MFM (Macau's Airport) to UTP (closest airport to Pattaya) for 50 USD. Something to keep in mind for those of you looking for cheap routes into LOS). With that being said, if you still do find yourself in Macau, as I occasionally do on my way in and out of the mainland (China), here are some tips that can help you get maximum bang for your buck.

Tip 1– If you are going to visit a Sauna, don't waste money on a hotel.

Most Sauna's, if not all, allow you to use the facility for 18-24 hours. Take advantage of that. If you are going to spend a couple hundred dollars in a sauna, why waste another couple hundred on a hotel where you are just going to go sleep anyways? All the Saunas have designated sleeping areas, and some like FN (my personal favorite), even have very decent, comfortable, individual rooms that they can give you for the night if you ask early enough and they haven't run out of them (I've never been refused an individual room in 3 years just to give you an idea of how many individual rooms they probably have).

Tip 2– Take the free shuttle buses provided by the casinos.

Whether you enter Macau by land, air, or sea – all exit points have buses waiting to escort you and your luggage to their designated casinos. My personal favorite is the Wynn as its gets me to within walking distance of my favorite Sauna. FN - and they even have free Wi-Fi on the buses! (I think all the casino buses have free Wi-Fi now though).

Tip 3– Leave you luggage at any casino – for free!

For those of you worried about what to do with your luggage for your stay in Macau, keep in mind that almost all the casinos provide free luggage storage for at least 72 hrs. Take a few essentials with you; a change of clothes, your valuables (I. E. Passport, large amounts of cash) and leave everything else in the casino. Don't worry about security, these are 5 star casinos making millions of dollars and the last thing they are looking to do is rob you (aside from on the casino floor, LOL). You can get and use all other supplies such as towels and toiletries at the sauna. They literally have everything from toothpaste, toothbrushes, shaving kits, hairsprays, you name it, so don't worry about any of that stuff. I've left my luggage with numerous casinos in the past – Wynn, Grand Lisboa, Venetian, and never had issues, but again my personal favorite is Wynn as its closest to FN. Note: The baggage storage for the Wynn is at the main lobby near where their waterfall thing is. It's about a 5 minute walk from where the bus drops you off.

Tip 4– 2288 HKD combo at FN.

I've tried almost all the Saunas in Macau and find that you get maximum value in Familia Nobre. The girls are almost always top notch, the staff is not too pushy, and on the whole I've always had a pleasant experience there. First thing I would suggest you do when you arrive is get a VIP card made. These used to be free of charge, however I believe they have started charging for them now (around 20 USD – not cheap – but worth the savings you will enjoy, especially if you become a regular). Gromit8 just gave a great detailed breakdown of the current pricing system at FN, as well as what being a VIP entitles you to.

I last visited a week ago, and discovered a 2288 HKD combo, which I found to be quite good. It included:

1. Scrubdown – When you enter the Jacuzzi / Sauna / Shower area in FN, you will notice a few hot Asian girls standing around in bikinis. These are the scrub down girls. What happens with a scrub down is one of these girls will take you to a separate shower room with a mattress, lie you face down, and give you a thorough wash / scrub down. They wrap a towel around their first and really go at it. Then they flip you over and repeat. They may tease you a bit with a half ass HJ, but they generally don't finish you off (people claim to have worked wonders with these girls in the past, however I have never managed to).

2. 2 mini-massages – When you get to the lounge area, mostly girls and 1 guy, start semi-harassing you for what I like to call mini-massages. A mini-massage is a 15-20 minute massage that you will receive right there in your lounge chair (aside from thigh massage). These include foot massage, hand / arm / shoulder massage, manicure, pedicure, ear cleaning. What happens with thigh massage is a masseuse will take you back to a separate room with a lounge chair, off come your shorts, and she proceeds to massage your legs & thighs, first without oil then with, and sort of tease you with a HJ – again without finishing you off (in my experience). As a VIP, you will be entitled to any 2 of these massages. Don't rush into them if you want to take your time. When they start harassing you, tell them later, they leave you alone after a few tries.

3. Shanghai Massage– This is a very nice 90 minute massage, provided by a masseuse who knows her shit. You don't get to choose this masseuse. You are taken to a room with a massage table, you remove all your clothes, and she gets started. Very nice, deep tissue massage. Flip over, repeat. This massage does include a HJ to completion. The masseuse doesn't get naked, however she does allow your hands to roam freely (as a matter of fact she encourages it). You get the HJ about 50-60 minutes in. After you pop, she cleans you and herself up and then continues with the massage. Last 15 minutes or so she works on your head. Very nice, very relaxing massage, not to mention getting 1 pop out of the way, you can enjoy yourself longer when you are with your FS girl.

4. FS girl – the 2288 HKD combo includes an Asian category girl, which is basically Chinese or Vietnamese. If you decide to go for Star, Model, or European, then you'the have to add the difference to 2288 HKD, whatever that might be. Personally I have a weakness for Vietnamese girls so I only ask to see the Vietnamese girls for the lineup anyways. You make your choice and off you go for your 60 minute session. I won't go into the details of this as it's been discussed many times on this forum before.

Keep in mind, 1-4 is in no particular order. The order is at your discretion. Just double check and confirm with a manager that you want to go for the 2288 HKD combo and make sure what all it includes just so you don't get vamboozled at checkout.

So all that for 2288 HKD, which is roughly 300 USD – works for me! Don't get me wrong, it's still expensive, but in a place like Macau, for everything I just listed above, that's as value as it's going to get. If you don't waste on a hotel, use the sauna to the max (I usually get at least 2 meals out of it – dinner and breakfast, and I enjoy all the complimentary fresh fruits, juices, teas etc.), 300 bucks is still livable for a night, or two.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=LosAddict;1951609]As many of you may already know, Macau is quite expensive for everyone on this forums favorite hobby. The quality is no doubt top notch, but even still, for the amount of money you'the end up spending on a few days in Macau, you could easily fund a trip for 7-10 days in a place like Pattaya, Thailand. Inclusive of airfare, hotel, entertainment, and girls (a bit of a side note, I once found a roundtrip ticket with Air Asia from MFM (Macau's Airport) to UTP (closest airport to Pattaya) for 50 USD. Something to keep in mind for those of you looking for cheap routes into LOS). With that being said, if you still do find yourself in Macau, as I occasionally do on my way in and out of the mainland (China), here are some tips that can help you get maximum bang for your buck.

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Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Nothing to add, been there last week and had an amazing time.

Could not say more!

[QUOTE=LosAddict;1951609]As many of you may already know, Macau is quite expensive for everyone on this forums favorite hobby. The quality is no doubt top notch, but even still, for the amount of money you'the end up spending on a few days in Macau, you could easily fund a trip for 7-10 days in a place like Pattaya, Thailand. Inclusive of airfare, hotel, entertainment, and girls (a bit of a side note, I once found a roundtrip ticket with Air Asia from MFM (Macau's Airport) to UTP (closest airport to Pattaya) for 50 USD. Something to keep in mind for those of you looking for cheap routes into LOS). With that being said, if you still do find yourself in Macau, as I occasionally do on my way in and out of the mainland (China), here are some tips that can help you get maximum bang for your buck.

Tip 1 If you are going to visit a Sauna, don't waste money on a hotel.

Most Sauna's, if not all, allow you to use the facility for 18-24 hours. Take advantage of that. If you are going to spend a couple hundred dollars in a sauna, why waste another couple hundred on a hotel where you are just going to go sleep anyways? All the Saunas have designated sleeping areas, and some like FN (my personal favorite), even have very decent, comfortable, individual rooms that they can give you for the night if you ask early enough and they haven't run out of them (I've never been refused an individual room in 3 years just to give you an idea of how many individual rooms they probably have)..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Leche;1954423]Could not say more![/QUOTE]Would like to second that. Thanks for taking the time to write the review.

Happy to be back in Macao and for slightly longer than I normal get to stay. Spent the first night at the new Wynn Palace which is amazing and some real "deals" on rooms right now as they are just building business. I splurged as they offered an executive suite for 2000 HKD on a Saturday night. Resort is amazing and was cool to stay for a night at a much cheaper price than is going to be available in the future. After a long flight from US and morning in HK was low on energy but fought the jet lag and headed over to my go to FN. I have to say it was really quite disappointing and even I had been on my VIP membership for 2 massages and 10% off I would have been really annoyed.

First they have changed operations and they no longer bring the girls to you in your seat and to the "Hello, boss" part which was a favorite of mine. Now when you ask they line the girls up at the end of the first hallway down toward the rooms and explain the pricing. I really didn't like this. First you could see no preview beforehand which I like to do wherever I go. Either in one of the showtimes like Rio or at FN would be able to check out girls as they walked by and lined up for others before calling for your own selection. Second this really puts you on spot to choose and its sort of a narrow space so really have to check the girls out like you are checking out livestock. Honestly I really don't like the change.

Then came problem 2. Lineup was seriously week, there was 1 model and a couple non asians otherwise all viets and none were that impressive. This was a Saturday night so I expected the best lineup of the week and I don't think I missed that many girls that were with customers, but with lineup the way it is now it's hard to tell. So being on the spot I chose a viet that had some nice knockers and was smiling a lot and making eyes. Unfortunately this is also were it topped out. Service was disappointing. The funnabagos were manmade, not a surprise, but they weren't even very good when undone. She wasn't very warm in room, no kissing, but honestly she had bad breath anyway. Basically everything was mechanical and not good. BJ was week. And she stayed in CG for 20 secs before wanting to switch. Thankfully I had dosed up on some kamigra or I think I would have lost wood. At this point I was getting annoyed so I kept working at it for as much as I could and just ignored her. But this was a week way to start my trip.

On the positive side the massages back in the lounge were great and they have been remodeling around various areas and all of that is nice. Without the VIP which kept the whole bill to 2100 for 3 massages and girl this would have been really disappointing. I have 4 nights total and will probably go back. But last night jet lag was catching up to me and I had planned on going back but the lousy experience wasn't enough to make overcome the heavy eyes. But damn, this is China and basically not a Chinese girl to choose from? I also noticed not a single girl walking the Wynn-starworld circuit. Sign of the times?

Day 2 I went by Darling1 at masters hotel about 4:30. Again lineup was a bit lacking, which was surprising again given it was weakened. Maybe a lot of girls occupied? When I exited at 6:30 selection was a lot deeper. Wanted to get some PRC action but nothing was impressive. Chose a viet, #389, that turned out to be real winner. 21 YO and just tight everywhere. Playful and decent english. At 1700 this is definitely a better option than what I had the night before. She gave a pretty good massage when tub was filling and a damn good time in the tub. Some LFK and eventual DFK as well. Really had a great time with her. She wasn't much for CG but was tight and liked the other positions as well. She certainly sounded like she was enjoying it or was faking it well enough for me. Did a bit of DATY which is uncommon for me, but she really warmed up to this. Planning on repeating with her before I leave.

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1956362]Happy to be back in Macao and for slightly longer than I normal get to stay. Spent the first night at the new Wynn Palace which is amazing and some real "deals" on rooms right now as they are just building business. I splurged as they offered an executive suite for 2000 HKD on a Saturday night. Resort is amazing and was cool to stay for a night at a much cheaper price than is going to be available in the future. After a long flight from US and morning in HK was low on energy but fought the jet lag and headed over to my go to FN. I have to say it was really quite disappointing and even I had been on my VIP membership for 2 massages and 10% off I would have been really annoyed.

First they have changed operations and they no longer bring the girls to you in your seat and to the "Hello, boss" part which was a favorite of mine. Now when you ask they line the girls up at the end of the first hallway down toward the rooms and explain the pricing. I really didn't like this. First you could see no preview beforehand which I like to do wherever I go. Either in one of the showtimes like Rio or at FN would be able to check out girls as they walked by and lined up for others before calling for your own selection. Second this really puts you on spot to choose and its sort of a narrow space so really have to check the girls out like you are checking out livestock. Honestly I really don't like the change.

Then came problem 2. Lineup was seriously week, there was 1 model and a couple non asians otherwise all viets and none were that impressive. This was a Saturday night so I expected the best lineup of the week and I don't think I missed that many girls that were with customers, but with lineup the way it is now it's hard to tell. So being on the spot I chose a viet that had some nice knockers and was smiling a lot and making eyes. Unfortunately this is also were it topped out. Service was disappointing. The funnabagos were manmade, not a surprise, but they weren't even very good when undone. She wasn't very warm in room, no kissing, but honestly she had bad breath anyway. Basically everything was mechanical and not good. BJ was week. And she stayed in CG for 20 secs before wanting to switch. Thankfully I had dosed up on some kamigra or I think I would have lost wood. At this point I was getting annoyed so I kept working at it for as much as I could and just ignored her. But this was a week way to start my trip.

On the positive side the massages back in the lounge were great and they have been remodeling around various areas and all of that is nice. Without the VIP which kept the whole bill to 2100 for 3 massages and girl this would have been really disappointing. I have 4 nights total and will probably go back. But last night jet lag was catching up to me and I had planned on going back but the lousy experience wasn't enough to make overcome the heavy eyes. But damn, this is China and basically not a Chinese girl to choose from? I also noticed not a single girl walking the Wynn-starworld circuit. Sign of the times?

Day 2 I went by Darling1 at masters hotel about 4:30. Again lineup was a bit lacking, which was surprising again given it was weakened. Maybe a lot of girls occupied? When I exited at 6:30 selection was a lot deeper. Wanted to get some PRC action but nothing was impressive. Chose a viet, #389, that turned out to be real winner. 21 YO and just tight everywhere. Playful and decent english. At 1700 this is definitely a better option than what I had the night before. She gave a pretty good massage when tub was filling and a damn good time in the tub. Some LFK and eventual DFK as well. Really had a great time with her. She wasn't much for CG but was tight and liked the other positions as well. She certainly sounded like she was enjoying it or was faking it well enough for me. Did a bit of DATY which is uncommon for me, but she really warmed up to this. Planning on repeating with her before I leave.[/QUOTE]Dam that sucks. FN was an old favorite 3 plus years ago but now just the Viet Massagi places around GDragon. I get BBFS with all bells and sucking for 800 mop or less and it's home service.

Pc out.

[QUOTE=Suerte8;1945231]I recently re-visited Sanua Eighteen "18 Sauna" It is located on the sixth floor of the Golden Dragon Hotel.

The exception was the infamous thigh massage. After all what not to like about a thigh massage?

Bottom line, my two friends and I were not inspired to meet the talent and decided to leave.

The total for three guys. Tips, 1/5 hour lounge massage only. Some food and soda. About $ 3,000+ HKD or over $385+.

You decide.[/QUOTE]Was the thigh massage the usual teasing of any chance of any good ending?

As all saunas in Macau there is a minimum charge per guy unless you take a FS massage or the individual services exceed the minimum charge.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1959793]Dam that sucks. FN was an old favorite 3 plus years ago but now just the Viet Massagi places around GDragon. I get BBFS with all bells and sucking for 800 mop or less and it's home service.

Pc out.[/QUOTE]I have a weakness for Viet chicks! Can you kindly provide more details on the VN massagi places around GD? Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Bigstud;1959842]I have a weakness for Viet chicks! Can you kindly provide more details on the VN massagi places around GD? Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]There are 4-6 places around that center. Walk around and look is all you have to do bro.

PC out.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1959839]Was the thigh massage the usual teasing of any chance of any good ending?

As all saunas in Macau there is a minimum charge per guy unless you take a FS massage or the individual services exceed the minimum charge.[/QUOTE]The thigh massage in the main saloon is exactly as you mention. It is basically a fluffing for events to come. (No Pun intended Ha Ha Ha) I have succeeded in a good ending by moving the service provided to the privacy of the back room. These girls have amazing experience in keeping you hard for hours at a time or quick release. Up to you.

On the money again with the minimum charge. The point here is that on this trip paying the spa charge was the best deal.

After a successful trip to Darling2, the previous night's disappointment at FN, and jetlag I took night 2 off. Next morning got a message from my D2 girl, I have taken to securing chat IDs for any girl where the session was a 7 or above as I have had some success in either arranging a repeat or offsite visit and has the added benefit of usually resulting in getting a photo of the girl for my archive, and she wanted to come over in the afternoon. This worked out nicely and had a nice time in the pool and then dinner and back for some fun. Only downside was the next day would have maybe swung by D2 in the afternoon but didn't want to run across her and not choose her. So on my last night I headed back to FN hoping to do better than my first time. I have to say it was disappointing again. I really dislike the new setup of not being able to preview what they have at all. So when you call for a lineup you are put on the spot to choose, and since you don't know what may be available you don't know if not choosing a girl and waiting till later is even worth it. As a VIP member FN is still a good deal compared to the other shops and I like the massage girls and the lounge area but going to have to branch out next trip. So after getting my manicure and foot massage I got taken back for the lineup. Again virtually no PRC girls, what the shit? Having already gone viet 3 times I really wanted a PRC girl. Thankfully there was one model available who was decent, but part of the sauna experience for me is supposed to be options. I chose her and had a good time, nothing extraordinary though. As a side note I did find it much more necessary to bring my own larger size protection throughout my trip. Don't know if the girls are buying smaller sizes or what's going on there, but wasn't as much of a problem for me in the past.

I went to check out the Grand Prix museum and managed to hit it on the one day a week its closed, Wednesday I think, so since I was in the neighborhood I walked over to golden dragon to check out the viet massage places. I am reasonably sure I located them and went into when for a massage. Got a decent massage, but didn't seem like options were on offer? The girl was ok, but not really that young and I didn't try to initiate anything. PC would you mind a short summary on the MO for these places? Should I have roamed with my hands? Given her a wink?

My local buddy is frequently Rio most of the time and is happy with the selection there so I think that will be next stop. The lack of PRC girls in generally from D2 and FN is interesting, not sure what the underlying reason behind that is, anyone have any insight?

As a side note the new Wynn Palace and Parisian are both really impressive properties and worth a visit. The ramen place inside the wynn is a bit on the pricey side but was very good as was the noodle shop as well. Lastly, if you haven't ever tried flying out the Macao airport it is a really nice option if continuing in SE Asia. It's small and compact and efficient and has many low cost flights making it a nice time saver over HKG.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1960805]There are 4-6 places around that center. Walk around and look is all you have to do bro.

PC out.[/QUOTE]PC,

You're obviously very knowledgeable and trying to help us find the right place, but my experience is similar to the others. I tried two nights to find "playful" Viet girls at the massage places near GD. Found the massage places, but the women working there were quite legit and didn't look like "playful" women. In fact, they said they don't do that kind of thing. They looked more like Aunties, though maybe a little younger than a typical Auntie. May I ask how pretty the women you experienced were? We all want to experience what you've been successful at getting there.

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1966505]After a successful trip to Darling2, the previous night's disappointment at FN <snip>

My local buddy is frequently Rio most of the time and is happy with the selection there so I think that will be next stop. The lack of PRC girls in generally from D2 and FN is interesting, not sure what the underlying reason behind that is, anyone have any insight?

As a side note the new Wynn Palace and Parisian are both really impressive properties and worth a visit. The ramen place inside the wynn is a bit on the pricey side but was very good as was the noodle shop as well. Lastly, if you haven't ever tried flying out the Macao airport it is a really nice option if continuing in SE Asia. It's small and compact and efficient and has many low cost flights making it a nice time saver over HKG.[/QUOTE]Hi Michael, I enjoyed reading your Macau & BKK reports. Your experiences at FN mirror my most recent visit in April. FN was a real disappointment for me this last trip especially considering all the great FN girls I have had the pleasure of on past visits. Fortunately for me, my trip was saved by a super sexy Chinese girl at Darling 1 and a very passionate Malaysian girl (my first ever) at Excellent Sauna in the Grand Emperor Hotel where I stayed.

I think your friend is right. Currently, at least back in April of this year, Rio was the only place where I saw actual 8* plus girls. Rio was the first sauna I hit after arriving from Manila late due to a plane delay. I was introduced to 4 stunners (management calls them "super models) in their lineup on a Sunday evening around 11:30 pm. The prices for these girls was out of this world (3000 mop for each of the two Chinese "Super Models" and 3600 Mop for each of the two Korean "Super models") which I know will discourage most mongers reading this post. That said, I will categorically vouch that these 4 girls WHERE true model quality meaning that IMHO they were TV actress or magazine perfume ad quality talent. So I was all ready to pay up and go with one of the Chinese super stars, when I suddenly got into an unfortunate misunderstanding (argument) with the host on payment methods and I left Rio that night without taking a girl. It is all in my trip report. I mention it again here because if you do decide to visit Rio, be sure to bring at least 900 mop cash to pay the super model in the room should you decide on that level of girl. The balance of your sauna tab can be paid the usual way with a credit card as you leave the establishment. Are "super model" Rio girls worth the price? Is any girl worth that kind of money? I leave it up each individual punter to answer that question for himself. All I can say is what would you be willing to pay for a young Qi Shu (Transporter)? Ha Ha.

In any case, I decided not visit Macau on my next 2 month SE Asian trip coming up in 2017. It will be the first time since 2010 when I discovered the place that I will not spend a week in Macau during one my Asian trips. I will miss getting my annual fix of sexy Chinese, but I decided to spend more time in Manila this next trip where I have two amazing Pinays waiting for me with open arms and wet pussies. Knowing how much I love and crave Chinese girls, I will probably head back to Macau on the trip after the next one, but who knows. I also love Filipina, Thai, and Indonesian girls.

Stay thirsty my friend,

N.B.

Is hopefully a temporary shortage, especially since the Chinese economy has been sliding recently. But at the same time I have wondered how there can be these attractive PRC girls available in Macao and elsewhere when they constantly talk about the excess number of men in country. Maybe it's some of the demand for girls working itself out in P4 P availability?

As far as the change in operations on the lineup I thought about trying to express my opinion, but figured as one of the lone white guys and not their base it wouldn't mean much so I just let it go. Need a comment card in this situation! Haha.

I think next time through will start there but unless it's much better I will move on. Even though the costs are higher, traveling to Macao is too far and costs to much to have sub standard quality and only save a small amount.

Natty, as a side note my first visit to Macao I stayed in the Grand Emperor and on the way up to the room these 2 hotties got in the elevator and off on the sauna floor. I had my plans from RTFF for Rio, 18, and FN, but I guess I should have followed them right into work! Too bad the hotels don't offer a little discount for guests. Don't know why they don't it's always good marketing and 5-10% would have probably been enough to push me in that direction. For 15%+ I would probably even stay in that masters hotel with darling given the selection has been good there and that hotel does not look impressive.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1966755]Hi Michael, I enjoyed reading your Macau & BKK reports. Your experiences at FN mirror my most recent visit in April. FN was a real disappointment for me this last trip especially considering all the great FN girls I have had the pleasure of on past visits. Fortunately for me, my trip was saved by a super sexy Chinese girl at Darling 1 and a very passionate Malaysian girl (my first ever) at Excellent Sauna in the Grand Emperor Hotel where I stayed.

I think your friend is right. Currently, at least back in April of this year, Rio was the only place where I saw actual 8* plus girls. Rio was the first sauna I hit after arriving from Manila late due to a plane delay. I was introduced to 4 stunners (management calls them "super models) in their lineup on a Sunday evening around 11:30 pm. The prices for these girls was out of this world (3000 mop for each of the two Chinese "Super Models" and 3600 Mop for each of the two Korean "Super models") which I know will discourage most mongers reading this post. That said, I will categorically vouch that these 4 girls WHERE true model quality meaning that IMHO they were TV actress or magazine perfume ad quality talent. So I was all ready to pay up and go with one of the Chinese super stars, when I suddenly got into an unfortunate misunderstanding (argument) with the host on payment methods and I left Rio that night without taking a girl. It is all in my trip report. I mention it again here because if you do decide to visit Rio, be sure to bring at least 900 mop cash to pay the super model in the room should you decide on that level of girl. The balance of your sauna tab can be paid the usual way with a credit card as you leave the establishment. Are "super model" Rio girls worth the price? Is any girl worth that kind of money? I leave it up each individual punter to answer that question for himself. All I can say is what would you be willing to pay for a young Qi Shu (Transporter)? Ha Ha.

In any case, I decided not visit Macau on my next 2 month SE Asian trip coming up in 2017. It will be the first time since 2010 when I discovered the place that I will not spend a week in Macau during one my Asian trips. I will miss getting my annual fix of sexy Chinese, but I decided to spend more time in Manila this next trip where I have two amazing Pinays waiting for me with open arms and wet pussies. Knowing how much I love and crave Chinese girls, I will probably head back to Macau on the trip after the next one, but who knows. I also love Filipina, Thai, and Indonesian girls.

Stay thirsty my friend,

N.B.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1966891]Is hopefully a temporary shortage, especially since the Chinese economy has been sliding recently. But at the same time I have wondered how there can be these attractive PRC girls available in Macao and elsewhere when they constantly talk about the excess number of men in country. Maybe it's some of the demand for girls working itself out in P4 P availability?

As far as the change in operations on the lineup I thought about trying to express my opinion, but figured as one of the lone white guys and not their base it wouldn't mean much so I just let it go. Need a comment card in this situation! Haha..[/QUOTE]Just my 2 cents on this, the Rio does offer spa coupons, I believe they are either 10 or 15%, or was it a fixed 150 hkd? I really can't remember, was staying there last year and used the Sauna twice. Could get an additional coupon at reception for second visit as well.

As for quality, I guess it really depends on what you're looking for. In my experience the girls and overall service in Rio are top notch, tons of girls that are way above average in the looks department (not necessarily tagged as "models" but some amazing PRC girls), however I never got a GFE treatment in the room, whereas in FN this was almost always what I got.

BTW, NB, you know I am very very fond of Manila (esp. Makati), and yet I never miss out on at least 3-4 days in Macau when in SEA, these Saunas are worth every penny to me.

To each his own, enjoy.

D

[QUOTE=LosAddict;1951609]

Tip 1 If you are going to visit a Sauna, don't waste money on a hotel.

Most Sauna's, if not all, allow you to use the facility for 18-24 hours. Take advantage of that. If you are going to spend a couple hundred dollars in a sauna, why waste another couple hundred on a hotel where you are just going to go sleep anyways? All the Saunas have designated sleeping areas, and some like FN (my personal favorite), even have very decent, comfortable, individual rooms that they can give you for the night if you ask early enough and they haven't run out of them (I've never been refused an individual room in 3 years just to give you an idea of how many individual rooms they probably have).

[/QUOTE]Good tips. I've tried the bunk style sleeping rooms before, but with a dozen snoring men all out of sync, it made it very difficult to get any sleep. I vowed never to do that again. Did not know about individual rooms, which saunas have these? Only FN? May have to give that a try-- though I typically book a hotel as I have a few sauna girls on rotation that come over fun (one or two without any money required, just some small gifts, dinner etc, which I prefer) and then I can get a good night's sleep / decent breakfast.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1966755]Currently, at least back in April of this year, Rio was the only place where I saw actual 8* plus girls. Rio was the first sauna I hit after arriving from Manila late due to a plane delay. I was introduced to 4 stunners (management calls them "super models) in their lineup on a Sunday evening around 11:30 pm. The prices for these girls was out of this world (3000 mop for each of the two Chinese "Super Models" and 3600 Mop for each of the two Korean "Super models") which I know will discourage most mongers reading this post. That said, I will categorically vouch that these 4 girls WHERE true model quality meaning that IMHO they were TV actress or magazine perfume ad quality talent. So I was all ready to pay up and go with one of the Chinese super stars, when I suddenly got into an unfortunate misunderstanding (argument) with the host on payment methods and I left Rio that night without taking a girl. It is all in my trip report. I mention it again here because if you do decide to visit Rio, be sure to bring at least 900 mop cash to pay the super model in the room should you decide on that level of girl. The balance of your sauna tab can be paid the usual way with a credit card as you leave the establishment. Are "super model" Rio girls worth the price? Is any girl worth that kind of money? I leave it up each individual punter to answer that question for himself. All I can say is what would you be willing to pay for a young Qi Shu (Transporter)? Ha Ha.

N.B.[/QUOTE]Last time I visited Rio (the Macau sauna, not the Brazilian city) in September of this year, prices were:

- Vietnam: 2300 MOP.

- China: 2600,

- Korea / Japan / Caucasian: 4100 ; Give me a fucking break.

I choose a Chinese girl with teacher / secretary-look glasses. Very easy to spot if she's still here.

Beautiful body, but it turned out to be one of the worst sessions of my trip.

First, she constantly toyed with the Air Conditioned in the room, and the room ended up being colder than a playoff game in Green Fucking Bay.

Then she treated me like she didn't give a shit. I don't know if it's because I'm not Asian (well, I have one Asian parent, but I was born and raised in west Europe), or I did something wrong. But if I ever go back to Macau, I'll be sure to avoid her.

In any Macau sauna I've been, it's true however, that for some reason probably related to some hypocrite law, I've been asked to pay a part of the fee directly to the girl in cash. For me, it was only a small fraction of the total price, like 100 MOP or so.

[QUOTE=ReefLostCause;1967164]
In any Macau sauna I've been, it's true however, that for some reason probably related to some hypocrite law, I've been asked to pay a part of the fee directly to the girl in cash. For me, it was only a small fraction of the total price, like 100 MOP or so.[/QUOTE]Hi ReefLostCause, I am sorry to hear about your crappy Rio session. This kind of thing used to be quite rare. I really hope it was a one off and not becoming part of a trend.

Paying the girl was never done prior to 2016. Of course a patron could always tip a girl extra if he so desired. I always kept my wallet and cash stowed away in a locker and paid the full tab with credit card upon leaving the saunas. Paying the girl her cut, as far as I know, is currently only being done at Rio and Darling 1. But, I would not be surprised if this practice spreads to the other saunas as the saunas are coming under increasing pressure from the mainland. This method of payment allows the saunas some degree of deniability as their business must endure this new level of scrutiny and repression from abroad.

As MichaelSamuel points out, FN has done away with parading their girls in the lounge area. This is another example of a sauna trying to conform to the external political pressure while still remaining open and operating as best they can under the new conditions. I am also afraid that the lesser number of available Chinese sauna girls is another example of the new paradigm. And the closing of the Lisboa Racetrack was yet another example, the first sign of the changing times. It is sad to think that the era of Macau saunas operating freely and offering their customers high quality girls with great service may be ending. Lets hope not.

Headed to Golden on my recent trip to see if the girl I met last year was still there. It was a very memorable session and I hoped to repeat as she had one of the best bodies I've seen, and all natural-- slim, six pack abs, nice-sized boobs and perky. Plus super cute face (like anime character) and personality. Only bad thing is she's not interested in meeting up OTC.

Golden is can be difficult to find if you've not been there, but it's basically behind Fortuna Casino, and you can take the hotel shuttles to Lisboa or Holiday Inn Macao to get within 3 minutes walk. I get to Golden and try to see if I can see who's there before I pay the fee. I'm told no. Cannot. I try to describe her (didn't remember her number). But they laughed and said every girl fits that description. So I took a chance, fully expecting to eat the entry fee and walk if she's not there. I'm told new policy (as reported earlier), I have to give a portion in cash directly to the girl-- 300-400 MOP depending on the class of girl. I didn't have enough cash on me as I wanted to pay with card, but they allowed me to make a charge for a 3% fee to get cash, so I did so for a couple hundred MOP.

I do the shower thing, get harassed by the shower girls, but skipped the pools. Golden's pool / sauna area is not super enticing. Then I go get my robe, and the girl who dresses me (VN, short, somewhat cute) does something I've never seen before. She dried my nether regions with a hair dryer and tissue. LOL. Then she somehow gets a 100 MOP tip out of me. I don't know why I did that. Should have only been 20. Oh well.

I walk into the small lounge area and right in front, the first girl is none other than the one I came for, and she recognized me right away. Well, we ended up having a great session as usual (she is very talented with the bathing portion, with some sumata and cat bath and soapy action and loves to rim. I haven't encountered that at any other places or with other girls). The rooms are pretty small here, but functional. Mirrors everywhere help with the view.

As we get upstairs, they are playing bingo! Somehow I win a free 20 min massage (head, shoulders, thigh, ear cleaning). And if you add them on Wechat you can get another free one. So I got an ear cleaning, shoulder massage, and threw in a thigh massage since I liked the massage girl. Enjoyed teasing one of the servers from VN who was kind of cute, quite tall, but had a very serious face on. Eventually got her to crack a smile.

Golden is much more affordable and the quality here is pretty good. My total bill came to less than 1800 MOP, that's with the extra 100 tip and 128 massage. The atmosphere is more casual as well, almost a little too casual. You have some girls that look disinterested and bored, just sitting there, others hustling, and they aren't very polished (even when the manager was introducing the girls and said 1, 2, 3 so they could all go "thank you boss", only a couple said it and it was not in unison like other places). But it has it's charm-- a little more intimate and feels more laid back I guess.

Most likely this practice has two purposes.

1) separate the main and legitimate business of the sauna from sex activities that might be "illegal" or not appropriate to the eyes of the community. As somebody said there is trend to "clean" these cities.

2) keep old prices as they were and have the sex provider earn her money on her own. Result is higher cost of the season, far more revenues for the sauna, higher earning for the girl as she might try to pull more from the customer by upselling.

So we go from a "all-in" price (a plus of Macau sauna) to a price list of services as I am pretty sure soon the girls will come out with a laminated price list.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1968342]Most likely this practice has two purposes.

1) separate the main and legitimate business of the sauna from sex activities that might be "illegal" or not appropriate to the eyes of the community. As somebody said there is trend to "clean" these cities.

2) keep old prices as they were and have the sex provider earn her money on her own. Result is higher cost of the season, far more revenues for the sauna, higher earning for the girl as she might try to pull more from the customer by upselling.

So we go from a "all-in" price (a plus of Macau sauna) to a price list of services as I am pretty sure soon the girls will come out with a laminated price list.[/QUOTE]#1 is a possibility. The girls didn't know why it was implemented, they said maybe it's so they get paid faster. #2, I don't see as of yet, since the prices remain the same, just a portion is to be paid in cash directly.

I was planning to try Golden for the first time but elected 18 for the fourth or fifth. Rather than fly United and arrive in Hong Kong and go through the ferry drama rushed, I chose American and landed around 0900. Took the ferry and arrived in Macau around noon. Some bloke on the ferry told me of a new sauna near 18 so I tried to find it but could not. 18 it was.

They have finally finished the remodel. And it was nice. Had the Korean bath (on the horseshoe chair) and let her clean me up. Then in the lounge it was dead at that time of day of course. But, I started the round of services including many thigh massages. The ladies were more than happy to stroke my cock in plain view of all the other ladies. The foot massage lady jumped in on one and made me blow. All over the place since it was probably my fifth thigh massage. They kept doing thigh massage for $150 local. Eventually, I paid them direct $200 USD for a ton of services– worth every penny. Eventually I told them to charge the house and ended up with a $2,400 MOP bill. Three times I blew, at least a dozen thigh massages, and many other services. I took a few videos from my cell phone and she was oblivious!

Now I can relive the view but not the pleasure!

Moved on to Taipei. Met some hot chicks at the club scene around 101. One had me ginding on her ass with my rock-hard cock. We danced so many times and I grinded her all night long until her cock blocking friends towed her away. Great ass, legs, and big tits. She friended me on FB then late defriended be due to boyfriend. Should have closed it but my cock was still happy from 18.

Moved on to Singapore and found a hotty on Tinder. Good way to go. She came to my hotel and we fucked. Condom of course which sucks. Her tits were large see cups and a beautiful shape. Then hung out with a local Singaporean only to find out she was knocked up and kept it from me. Anyway, we fucked doggie and I grudged a bit. I pounded her wall hard.

Then back to boring USA Already planning next trip in February. Not sure where but pussy will always be in scope.

Good Day. I am now in HK for the first time in quite a while, and am likely to take a trip to Macau on Saturday. Based on my spending patterns when I am in Europe, I am looking to spend during my visit around HKD7000 but would be looking for a couple of experiences, perhaps even 3 for the spend. Of late I have stopped hiring escorts, and have moved on to European saunas (FKK) so was thinking that the Macau equivalent (not sure if more Darling or Rio approach is better match) would be more to my liking. Given my budget, time of year etc, what would be the view on the community on the top 3 choices for a visit probably starting around 5 pm and ending near midnight. While this is my first post here, I am a contributor to the forum (Barcelona / Vienna so far), and will generate feedback (usually in a lot of detail), so appreciate all contributions to give maximize my pleasure and experience.

Hope this is in time to help you. For that budget here is what I suggest.

Take taxi to Sofitel (it's easier to tell cab drivers this than masters hotel). Start at darling 1. That's less than 2 k all in and your first 90 minutes. Then for a break you could walk to Rio, 30 minutes. The food is ok there but if you see something along the way you can eat. Natty has recommended the noodle shop at Grand Lisboa and I thought it was very good as well and doesn't take long. Then Rio for rest of the night. Think a PRC model and viet girl and your about at 5 k maybe a bit over and then your out at midnight.

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;1974266]Good Day. I am now in HK for the first time in quite a while, and am likely to take a trip to Macau on Saturday. Based on my spending patterns when I am in Europe, I am looking to spend during my visit around HKD7000 but would be looking for a couple of experiences, perhaps even 3 for the spend. Of late I have stopped hiring escorts, and have moved on to European saunas (FKK) so was thinking that the Macau equivalent (not sure if more Darling or Rio approach is better match) would be more to my liking. Given my budget, time of year etc, what would be the view on the community on the top 3 choices for a visit probably starting around 5 pm and ending near midnight. While this is my first post here, I am a contributor to the forum (Barcelona / Vienna so far), and will generate feedback (usually in a lot of detail), so appreciate all contributions to give maximize my pleasure and experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1974996]Hope this is in time to help you. For that budget here is what I suggest.

Take taxi to Sofitel (it's easier to tell cab drivers this than masters hotel). Start at darling 1. That's less than 2 k all in and your first 90 minutes. Then for a break you could walk to Rio, 30 minutes. The food is ok there but if you see something along the way you can eat. Natty has recommended the noodle shop at Grand Lisboa and I thought it was very good as well and doesn't take long. Then Rio for rest of the night. Think a PRC model and viet girl and your about at 5 k maybe a bit over and then your out at midnight.[/QUOTE]Yes that'a a good plan.

If you want 3 sessions instead of 2, after Darling, you can go to Golden, and get a nice Viet for around 2000. Then to FN, same for slightly higher price.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1975084]Yes that'a a good plan.

If you want 3 sessions instead of 2, after Darling, you can go to Golden, and get a nice Viet for around 2000. Then to FN, same for slightly higher price.[/QUOTE]Thank you both for your input. Having read some reports, I think the big decision will be after Darling whether it is Rio or FN. They both are highly rated, though FN is always quoted as being better value for money. In terms of services, in an FKK in Europe, you can basically have a full GFE / PSE experience. This means (of course with proper payment) DFK, DATY, CIM, and Greek (if that's your interest). It sounds like Macau might be more of a massage / OWO / Safe Sex sort of experience with the girl much less of a receiver. (or at least this is the impression from the reports). I'll find out for myself of course, but in the room is the GFE / PSE approach on the menu.

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;1975303]Thank you both for your input. Having read some reports, I think the big decision will be after Darling whether it is Rio or FN. They both are highly rated, though FN is always quoted as being better value for money. In terms of services, in an FKK in Europe, you can basically have a full GFE / PSE experience. This means (of course with proper payment) DFK, DATY, CIM, and Greek (if that's your interest). It sounds like Macau might be more of a massage / OWO / Safe Sex sort of experience with the girl much less of a receiver. (or at least this is the impression from the reports). I'll find out for myself of course, but in the room is the GFE / PSE approach on the menu.[/QUOTE]Hey RH,

I also started my mongering expedition in FKKs in Germany and moved to SEA 5 years back.

Macau is heaven to me and I am sure you will enjoy it thoroughly.

The main difference to notice is that unlike an FKK you are not in contact with the service providers at all, until you choose which to take for private time. This eliminates any possibility of building chemistry prior to making the deed, so generally receiving GFE is more rear, however Macau does prevail when it comes to the additional services in Saunas (massages, shower girls, food etc.).

I remember reading there is one sauna mentioned to have the girls roam around and talk to customers (more similar to FKK setup) was it 18 or East? I never bothered as I really loved D1, Rio and FN.

As for the 2 choices you've mentioned, Rio is much more lavish and grand, it's more beautiful and is really a pampering experience. The girls are probably the most beautiful in my book, and are very professional, but I never had one that spoke English, and if they did "no kiss" were the most common words used. Also, no phone reception in the rooms, so no way to use any translation apps.

In FN, there are stunners and also some GND type, and using some Google translate and some good senses of choosing the right girl, I managed to find 3 Viets and 2 Chinese which were full GFE, loving it, one of which squirting while cuming and insisting on me taking her phone number so we can meet when she's off work.

In a nutshell, if you want the "Macau sauna experience", I find Rio to be the best representation of that. If GFE is a big factor for you, FN just has higher chances in my experience.

First, I wanted to thank everyone who gave me advice. It was helpful in a number of ways. Second, I have two separate reports, one on Darling and one on Rio to share. I didn't quite get my planning right and only had time for 2 sessions as opposed to 3. Thus, I didn't spend quite what I expected to either, which probably means I will have at least one further visit.

So to the report. Darling I.

Took a cab after getting off of TurboJet, and had them drop me off at Sofitel as suggested, and then walked the 200 m down the road away from Sofitel to the Sauna, which has an entrance on the left side, and then is up stairs to the 3rd floor walking in a corridor at back of hotel.

I arrived at 3 pm. When I got there (this was a Sunday), I was among 2 punters. (they were Chinese). On entering, I was shown to the chair to view the girls all seated in similar Christmas teddies, with different numbers and color badges. On entering there was a bit of a murmur from all of the girls and some comms. Not sure particularly why, but expect foreign guys are not seen as often, and guys who come in looking smart, and very fit are also less frequently seen. In any case, I sat down with the mamasan and was told that I was early, and that only Viet / Thai girls were working. Chinese girls on Sunday start around 5 pm (good to know).

The scene was like a Phuket / Bangkok fish bowl without the glass and the girls were more closely positioned. None of them on first blush were stunning. There were about 18 in total in the room and most of them were average in build and looks. The common feature was probably 85% were fairly busty (though push ups were prominent) and that of the 85%, maybe 1/3 girls had implants. Because there was no really outstanding girl that immediately jumped up at me, I had to do a bit of soul searching to select the one I would enjoy. In the end I came down to 3, and had them stand up and give me a full 360 degree view. (I was looking for signs of cellulite only), and that convinced me to go with the one smiley girl in the room, a Thai girl named Eve (#36). I paid the house HKD1200 upfront for Eve for 75 minutes, and was told to pay her HKD500 directly.

Eve goes to get her stuff, and I go off to a waiting area. Eve then shows up and we go to room 20. (but there was no one there). I find out that Eve's English is pretty good, and that she is half Malay / half Thai. She has had her breasts done in the last 4 months, and is new at Darling, having worked for 3 weeks there. She has done some massage work before but this is her first time in Macau in this setting. I will subsequently learn quite a lot about Eve, and will share accordingly.

We help each other off with our clothes as we get into the room. Eve is as I expected, not beautiful but cute. Her body is not toned, but she's isn't chubby and like most Thai girls has some natural leg and arm muscle. She has a tattoo on her back which isn't quite done yet. Her new breasts are shapely and she has nice nipples. She is appreciative of my physical state, but is slightly intimidated by my package. (more of that later). I learn that the concept here is that we have a dry / slight oil traditional sort of massage first, then a soapy bath and then full service. I am not really sure what the later means at this point, and rather than turn everything into a discussion (which is quite a common thing in the FKK arena) I just go with it. The room we are in isn't luxurious but is spacious. The bath is in a separate room and there is a round "red" bed in the main room with a very large mirror on the ceiling.

The massage starts as a traditional Thai massage. Eve knows the basics of this, but is not a professional masseuse by any stretch of the imagination. After 10 minutes I turn over and she starts to use a little oil. She doesn't immediately start on my cock at this stage, but gave me a few kisses (on the body) here and there, and massaged with the oil across my chest, thighs etc. Of course she ends up around my scrotum and cock and works to get me erect. Not too difficult. My cock girth is pretty large, and Eve makes a few remarks about the size (or lack of) of her pussy. I tell her not to worry and that her elasticity is more than she can possibly contemplate.

At this point, she doesn't start any BJ, just sliding her fingers up and down etc. Once I am erect, we then went into the soapy bath that she had started to prepare when we got in the room. Our time in the soapy bath is much as one expects. Eve played with my cock between her new breasts to start with, and then had me sit on the upper part of the bath. She cleaned the suds away from my cock and started in the bath to give me a blow job. I actually wasn't quite expecting her to start at that point, but I guess that is either what she wanted (or thought I did) or its the routine. In any case, for a good 5 minutes she gave me head in the bath. DT was out of the question but she had a nice technique which combined sucking, licking, and tonguing while giving the shaft a good and firm grip.

I was starting to get Horny and I think sex probably would have been next on the menu in a normal situation, but I told her that I am a DATY guy and that pussylicking is my thing. She had a moments thought on what to do, but then having had a good look at my erect cock decided perhaps receiving my tongue before my cock was not a bad option. I wiped her down, and she laid herself down on the pillow, looking up at herself in the mirror, as did I. I started fondling and kissing her tits, and then massaging them right and left before kissing down her belly to her pussy, lingering on her thighs for a while and teasing her rather than going straight to her hole.

In Macau as I understand it the customers are mostly Chinese and Japanese, and they like the women to be au natural so Eve had a Bush (which I haven't seen for a while as I have spent way too much time with Eastern Europeans and Latinas) as a peered at her pussy to see what I would be sucking. I could see she had a smallish clit, and she wasn't lying about not having the largest orifice, but everything looked in good order and smelt good. I think she probably figured I would spend a few minutes only on her, but that just isn't the way I roll. My desire in the room is to get any women I encounter to have at least one orgasm, and Eve wasn't about to be an exception to my rule.

After about 10 minutes, I took a look at Eve's face in the mirror, and it was clear that 1) she was starting to enjoy what I was doing, and 2) had passed the point where she was sitting in some far off corner of her mind waiting it out. Her pussy started to give me similar signs, and gradually I went from rimming her entire hole into licking and sucking the base and top of her hood, to then gradually easing in fingers. I didn't do this quickly but just let everything happen progressively easing off the pressure to caress her elsewhere from time to time thus allowing her to ease up and back in the pleasure zone. I did this for about 15 minutes or so (though it is tough to tell on time) and then cranked up my effort. I do this by basically exposing her entirely to my mouth, pushing her legs wide open and lifting her bum slightly off the bed in the process. In this position, I can pretty much get my tongue into her pussy properly and control her pleasure. Eve was moaning and I could feel her muscles tighten and anus pucker as she one orgasm quickly followed by a second, and then the aftermath of a 3rd, by which time she had stopped pushing my head on her pussy.

After that was done, I got up and went over to the side table and put on my own condoms. Eve was very wet from her cum and my saliva, and thus entering her was no problem at all, although she was tight and her passage didn't feel all that deep. We went into a form of missionary, and I kissed her for the first time. I wasn't sure if kissing was likely to be on the menu (but she gave me what felt like a legitimate DFK) and then we started to slowly couple. Again my style is not "bang bang" but rather, esp. When you are with a small girl to do everything gradually, slow penetration and lots of rotation before thrusting. I continued to do this approach until Eve started to get use to the size and girth. It took a bit of time, and patience on my side but gradually I was able to push deeper and penetrate harder. As this process emerged, Eve and I started to move in rhythm and exchanged kisses from time to time. She was holding and squeezing my butt to help with the penetration and it was enjoyable.

I wasn't done yet, though Eve seemed to have another O, and thus we went back to BJ after a bit of clean up. I didn't lie down, but rather got on my knees and had Eve give me a long blow job while I was looking in the mirror. It was like a scene out of a porn movie watching her head moving up and down my shaft, and very erotic. I could have cum in her mouth as she started to get into it increasing the suction and stroking, but instead since they were new, I shot my load on to her tits. The time buzzer had been going for about 5 minutes at that point, but Eve was relaxed about us cleaning each other up properly.

We had a few lingering kisses and cuddle and I gave her HKD800 instead of 500 for her efforts, as well as for the way that she acted throughout, which was a sort of GFE interaction. Job done, I had a diet coke and then left. On leaving the line up had increased (it was about 4:40 pm) and there were certainly more Chinese and probably 22-25 girls seated. Still quiet in the place.

After I finished at Darling, as suggested I had a stroll to Rio. I passed the Lisbon on the way, and did have a think about the noodles but time was running along and I figured I better get started before I left things too tight (which proved to be more true than I wished).

Rio isn't the splashiest hotel in Macau by any stretch of the imagination but the spa, as I entered it was impressive. The first thing of course that happened was the greeting by one of the Mamasans for the quick intro. I learned that basically there is an entry fee of HK $734 as well as fees for certain extras such as a thigh massage, but that if you take a girl for a full service, it appears most of this gets waived (not all but most). I also learned about the pecking order in the full service category with prices basically starting at around 1700 and going up to 4100. At the top of the pecking pool were Japanese and Korean girls, which I never quite get (but then again I haven't fucked a Korean yet) while at the bottom were the Vietnamese girl who generally lack the height but not the stamina.

So off I go to change first in a changing area that's not one at all, but a place for my valuables and clothes that seems to be more open than necessary. Anyway, not shy, and then head off to take a shower (always showering it seems) and from there I decided that I would go into the warm sauna. This is in a very big space, and when I entered found myself with 4 or 5 Japanese and Chinese guy. They all take a look at the foreigner in the room, the guy with the six pack and I settle into the water for a time.

After this I get out and go get my silk / nylon PJs from the helping girls. Of course they do a little bit of touchy touchy and want some money. Sharks in the water here no doubt, I give one who did a bit more work HK100 and the other HK50. They complain that they should get the same. I ignore them.

I am told the bell won't ring for 30-45 minutes (I should have insisted a private session, will do next time) and so I am told to relax. I see 4 Vietnam girls standing around looking like bank clerks in one of those traditional Japanese long term banks (that no longer exist). I am immediately asked if I want a thigh job for HK $200 for 25 minutes from one of them, but instead ask for a foot massage. An old guy comes over to give me that, which is sort of funny, and he works on my feet with a bit of skill (not great though) for 20 minutes or so, again for HK $200. About 15 minutes in another girl asks me again for a thigh massage. I call the mamasan over and she tells me it is still going to be 30 minutes for all the girls to be ready so I agree.

The girl takes out cheap baby oil and puts some on my thighs with this sort of dazed, spacey look on her face, and gradually works her way to my cock, which she finds to be quite a handful. She puts on more baby oil and starts to stroke why pecker. It's pleasant but nothing more, but what's funny is that she lifts my towel a few times, and shows my cock to the other ladies in waiting, so it becomes something like a cock tease show. I try to get her to extend the show into a BJ but while she's tempting and I offer her double the money as long as she does it in full view, she reluctantly turns me down (even though I am pretty sure one of them would do it).

After the excitement the bell rings and off I go with about 9 Chinese guys already ahead of me but the girls only just getting their act together. The mama greats me again and tells me which type of girl is wearing what. Overall I don't find any unacceptable, though there was certainly a scale, with perhaps 2 out of the 4 Vietnamese worth it, roughly 2/3 rds of the Chinese girls, and roughly half of the Koreans. (there were 4). There was a Russian girl, tall and leggy who was quite nice but I don't normally go for ladies with short hair. With 9 guys in the room and about 22 girls in total, it wasn't ideal for a lingering pick and I rather quickly as I was looking more than most found that most of the Chinese and Viet girls were taken, and I lost an opportunity for my top picks before I could make up my mind. As this occurred I was increasingly thinking of spending the 4 k on one of the Korean girls in the long dresses, but as I wanted to have 2 sessions, I opted to start with a Chinese girl, 855, who was among the thinnest on the stage, and definitely not busty, but I figured young, and thus perky.

The Mamasan notes my choice, tells me its going to be fine. (as she would) and leads me through the room labyrinth to my chosen room to await the arrival of number 855. When she comes I quickly realize she can't speak a single word other than yes, no and later I learn (thank you) so I figure this is going to be a game of sign language. She motions for me to take my clothes off and I help her out of her single dress.

As expected she is thin, quite pale, with small breasts (maybe 32 A / B), nice nipples, and a pretty hairy Bush. (much more than Eve). She still has a cute face and while I am not exactly bowled over for my investment of 2650 (2150 to the house, 500 to the girl. Outrageous split) I decide to go with the flow. As with Darling the room is split into two, with one having a large bath in it (of a sort), and the other a regular bed but with more mirrors. There is a TV as well showing a Japanese porn video (something in a hospital too). Anyway it was OK and not really anything to complain about.

855 motions me to the bath, and I can see that it is shallow. She puts hot water in it and then lays down a towel and then asks me to lie on it, first on my back massage style. I can't say it was perfectly comfortable, but in any case she gives me a cleaning, and then herself one and then gets on me and slides a bit giving me a chance to feel her tits / nipples against my body, as well as her crotch against my butt. Still nothing like what you get in Thailand, but it was OK and then she turned me over and sort of did the same though a bit more carefully, esp. When she took a look at my cock. That made her chatter at me in Mandarin. I have no idea what she said, but I got the feeling it was very similar to Eve's initial response.

Well one way or another we will find out. So we get out, dry off each other (no kissing and little touching at this point) and I am instructed to lie on the bed. 855 gets herself organized and starts to give me a blow job with the mouth wash and then with the hot tea. She has good technique but not spectacular and allows me to play with her ass a bit and her pussy. I don't try anything aggressive other than moving my fingers along her slit. After she gets me hard, she stops, and takes out a condom but she can't get it on my cock, and so she looks at me, I shrug and put it on myself.

At this point, she is kind of lying there waiting. I am thinking that this girl is going to need some lub, but don't know what to say and so I have a go to enter her "dry" . I have to do it super slow as she is a girl with another small **** but eventually I get it in her and start to slowly penetrate. At first she is looking at me like a Doe in headlights and seems more interested in getting it over with then anything else, but I am not that guy. Anyway, eventually after very careful penetration she starts to adjust and let go just a little. At this point, we have one very brief kiss, a bit like 12 yr olds if I'm honest, and keep going. I am stopping and starting and her enjoyment is rising a bit, but its still by no means two people coupling, so I stop and try to gesture to her about lub.

After a bit of thought she gets it, and smiles a bit and after some lub on both her pussy and my cock we have a go at Doggie right in the mirror. Again I have to take things slow and just try to get her to relax. This again takes a bit of time but gradually through massaging her butt and feeling her tits, she again starts to let go, and for about 5 minutes we get into a good rhythm. I am still however not anywhere near the mountain and so I pause, and gesture to her that I want to suck her pussy.

She gives me the same look as Eve, that one that says, are you sure. Or should I let you, but then she puts her head on her pillow and opens her legs. I don't immediately give her pussy any attention as her little tits with the prominent nipples are kind of nice, and it is said that small titted girls have more sensitive nipples (myth perhaps). Anyway I enjoy a bit of exploration and eventually get down to business. Her pubic hair is fortunately quite downy in nature, and thus it isn't too unpleasant as I start to see what kind of girl she really is. As things turned out this turned into a bit of a marathon session. I don't know what it was but for whatever reason I got in one of those states where the only thing I wanted to do was fuck her with my tongue and fingers. As with Eve her initial response as she was lying back and looking in the ceiling was to try to concentrate my effort away. She held out that way for a good ten minutes until I started to lick, kiss and suck her hood of her clit as well as open her hole so I could probe her vulva. At that point, a very tiny moan left her mouth, and in the mirror I saw her head swivel slightly and her eyes start to drift.

I didn't really change anything immediately but just continued to lick, suck and probe her. At first I allowed her whenever I started getting close to close her legs and stop the shuddering from getting too violent, but after she did this for the 3rd or 4th time, and I thought my stop / start technique had teased her enough into submission, I fully opened her legs and lifted her ass so that effectively she was completely submissive and facing the ceiling. I took a brief rest at that point, and then began to eat her out with earnest with one hand while fingering her slowly but deeply with the other. She started guiding my head to the spot she wanted, and then little by little started to cum. I didn't give her much of a chance if I'm honest between orgasms and instead just keep teasing, sucking and fingering her. She was oozing cum in my mouth (which is so sexy) and her hole was starting to splutter from my fingering. I kept this up until she came at least 3 times, and then eased off.

She gave me a bit of a different look after that, and actually when I stopped and wiped myself she sat up and kissed me properly, and said "thank you". I figured she didn't know many other words, but the smile and the kiss was worth it. After she relaxed a little she started to blow me again, and as with Eve I decided this was better done on the knees than in a flat position so that I could view the scene. While 855 didn't have Eve's enthusiasm she used her tongue, and hands to go effect and eventually I came on her body. By this time the telephone had been ringing for about 5 minutes signaling the end of our session.

855 however had us both shower quickly and gargle, while laughing (because I did more gargling than her!) and then I put back on my PJs, and helped her back on with her dress, gave her the money, and we left hand in hand.

The Mamasan of course asked me about the service and I gave her a positive outcome, perhaps suggesting that 855's pleasure was greater than mine. Time was running out for round 2, so I instead had some dinner, and then settled the bill paying just under 3 k.

As I said I didn't quite achieve my goal so I will probably try one more girl tomorrow (Tuesday, it may be a Korean. We will see.

As a follow up to my last report, I have one final one. I decided after a bizarre experience with HK escorts (it will be featured under a "warning" in my HK report tomorrow) that I would take one more trip back to Macau. I had a very busy day however at work, so I wasn't ideally positioned for the trek, and actually missed my first turbojet and then had to pay for another, cutting into my time by around 35 minutes end to end.

So now things are a bit rushed. But anyway I arrive pretty much as the girls are coming out (they come out about 8:15/8:20 pm by the way). The line up is much as I remember from 2 days ago, and I know pretty much when I walk in the room I am going to go for the Korean girl (4100 HKG, 2700 to the house, 1400 to the girl), a) because she was hot, and had been giving me the eye the previous visit and b) because I haven't tried Korean for a long time and c) because I could tell that she was fit.

I am the first to choose since I know what I want so quickly go take a shower. When I get out the mamasan asks me whether I would like to try one of their theme rooms for an extra 300 HKG. I have one of those moments where I am thinking I can play out one of my fantasies, and am caught between going medical or transport. I opt for medical, and then need to decide between the girl as doctor or nurse. I plump for nurse, though I think I would have preferred me doctor / patient (something to suggest).

Anyway, off I go to the nurses room to wait for number 312 to arrive. I wait a good 5 to 8 minutes and then after the lady turns on the porn, and some music, in she walks in a nurses uniform, showing off her tits, and wearing high heels and white stockings all good.

Number 312 looks very, very similar to a young Maggie Chun who is a TV star, as well as one of the girls from Girls Generation, and she does have a smoking body as long as you like a bit of silicon, which I do. Now the thing about this girl is she is actually an American Korean, from LA / Hawaii, and thus speaks perfect English. There is an upside and downside to this, one it sort of took away the Korean experience (the China doll concept of super submissive straight away) and meant that I was actually in the room with a "porn girl", because girls from the "valley" as you may or may not know have porn experience one way or another.

OK, I can handle this, and she starts her examination. Role playing can be fun, but I was kinda of tired / rushed and thus while I tried my best, it didn't move me. Anyway, we then get undressed, and there is nothing vaguely to criticize. She is nearly as fit as I am, has a nice tattoo across her stomach / hip, a nearly shaved pussy, nice nipples etc. All a feast for the eyes.

We share some kisses (not really DFK) and mutual touching, and then we share a mutual examination. Everything is going good although the music is starting to get to me a bit as it was pretty loud in the room (not sure why as didn't have it previous visit). Anyway, she starts to stroke and suck my cock, good eye contact, clearly knows what she is doing. I am looking at her ass while she is doing it and have to admit the girl was pretty flawless. Anyway after a while of sucking we switch positions and I go down on her, teasing, licking her nipples and biting them a bit, down her flat stomach to her perfect pussy, pink well shaped, nice clit. I kiss and caress her around her firm thighs and tight ass and then slowly start to give her head. Her response is positive, and I take my time with her, sometimes licking and sucking, sometimes tongue fucking her, and eventually with not that much hard effort, she has a little O. I keep things up however, and start to finger her and she guides me vocally to where I need to be. I'm getting hard fast and thinking this is going to be the ride of my life, but I'm still getting distracted by the music, and time is running.

After a while we switch positions and I lay back. Everything is going well and again I probably, given my state of day, should have put on the hood and fucked her senseless, but she asked me if I would like a prostrate rub while she is sucking and I think what the heck. It's not really my thing but you have to be adventurous. Anyway she slips on a finger condom and some lub, and starts to finger and suck me at the same time. She also starts as she is doing it to talk really trashy, slutty stuff, quite like the porn girl. I'm taking it in, still being annoyed by the blaring music and rapidly losing focus. Definitely not her fault, just the moment starts slipping away.

Anyway I call a halt to it, and tell her we have to shut the music off. Suki (that's her real name) tries but can't figure it out so she goes to get help which does arrive and at last I get some peace and quiet so I can do some fucking. Anyway, Suki starts again stroking, kissing, deep throating, and I'm getting back to the right place for the main event. Anyway, at this point, for whatever reason (don't know why) Suki puts some lub / oil on my cock, but too much really and before she can get on the condom, I start losing it again. Fuck, I'm with this gorgeous hot chick but this is all getting too "hard". I tell her to clean me off and we start again (10 minutes left now. / gonzo flick in the making). And with some strong mental will (as I am not a super young guy you understand) I get to the point where she can get things going. Suki decides she wants to be on top and positions herself initially facing me and I get inside her, but the condom is tight, and her hole is as well. We do this for a bit, and then as I am just getting some rhythm she goes into reverse cowgirl so we can both watch in the mirrors, porn girl style again (she was still talking trash). Now reverse cowgirl is one of those positions where you need to be rock hard and I wasn't there yet so it didn't really work.

Now the time is up and the phone is ringing. Suki ignores it (good girl really!) and says I am going to get my happy ending one way or another so we go to 69 which usually works for me and definitely was working for her. I do have something like an orgasm but it was something not quite what I was hoping for. Nevertheless I give her some satisfaction. We shower, have a final kiss and exit, with me apologizing a bit (as I am normally so much better.).

My take on this now that I am relating it back is 1) the room isn't worth it for the effect unless you are really there 2) music was a mood killer and I'll relate that to the folks at Rio in the future 3) I need to limit the trash talk (because I am going to have another go with Suki. Assuming she doesn't disappear before I get back) because it can get distracting from the actual fucking. The total damage for the night was HKD4900 because I gave some tips / ate quickly etc, which I know my fellow punters will feel at £500 (I think in Stg) is expensive for 75 minutes, and a lot of rushing, and based on what went down, it wasn't ideally what I was hoping would be my experience with 312, but sometimes you have to roll.

Still rate RIO highly though if the readers here get to visit the proper FKK styles in Germany and Austria I think there will be a view that while Asian pussy has its merits for sure, I think it doesn't quite match the best of the FKK scene.

[QUOTE=ReefLostCause;1967164]Last time I visited Rio (the Macau sauna, not the Brazilian city) in September of this year, prices
- Vietnam: 2300 MOP.
- China: 2600,
- Korea / Japan / Caucasian: 4100 ; Give me a fucking break.
[/QUOTE]Attached price list comes from Rio September last. Two, three years ago prices were lower and there was no need to pay the girl separately as the recent trend seems to be.

Price list included all and no tip was expected.

Always debatable how much Korean or Japanese those girls were (a traditional local dress might not be sufficient) and Caucasian often meant some former CIS girl.

Hey all,

I am going to be in Macau at Hotel Royal for 2 days and have a limited budget. Is this houva take out still out there?

I have not seen any posts. If I do get to use it I will report back. Thanks in advance.

I have $3000 HKD to spend. Any suggestions how to spend it.

Thanks all.

[QUOTE=RedRider;1790833]Today I stopped off in Macau on my way to Hong Kong. I wanted to try out the HouVa action I had heard about here.

I booked myself into the Royal Macau. HouVa is easy to find just walk across the park in front of the hotel and turn right. About half a block ahead on the left is the "spa". Once you go in it is pretty dumpy. The mommy will go look to see if you arrived by taxi. Tell her "no taxi". She then shows you a piece of paper with the pricing in Chinese characters. She also explains the services in English. The two-hour take-out is no longer available. Hotel take-out is now 80 minutes for 770 HKD.

I asked for the Viet lineup and about 18 girls came out with numbers on them. This was on a Friday evening about 5:45 pm. The mommy said to choose and write the number on a piece of paper. Once I began writing down the number, they all left to return to the back room..[/QUOTE]

How much privacy is there in the shower areas of the various saunas when getting a body scrub and hand job? A few of the reports seem to say it happens next to the pools / spas?

Is there much in the way of other guys watching? Or is the atmosphere relaxed enough that no one cares? Does it raise any eyebrows hitting the saunas with a hard on after getting the body scrub?

[QUOTE=Steveo1977;1979142]How much privacy is there in the shower areas of the various saunas when getting a body scrub and hand job? A few of the reports seem to say it happens next to the pools / spas?

Is there much in the way of other guys watching? Or is the atmosphere relaxed enough that no one cares? Does it raise any eyebrows hitting the saunas with a hard on after getting the body scrub?[/QUOTE]I guess this differs by Sauna.

At the Rio the shower girls take you to a specific shower opposite side of the pools to the ones guests use. They are no sealed, but due to the structure of the dividers one needs to try hard to see what's going on inside.

In FN I've only seen the girls do the showers on a bed, that is in a room behind a closed door (again opposite side of pools from normal showers).

Generally speaking, no one that is not staff ever pays any attention to your junk, in my experience.

[QUOTE=Steveo1977;1979142]How much privacy is there in the shower areas of the various saunas when getting a body scrub and hand job? A few of the reports seem to say it happens next to the pools / spas?

Is there much in the way of other guys watching? Or is the atmosphere relaxed enough that no one cares? Does it raise any eyebrows hitting the saunas with a hard on after getting the body scrub?[/QUOTE]No one cares. Everyone knows why you are there for, so are they.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1979310]No one cares. Everyone knows why you are there for, so are they.[/QUOTE]To the point that customers do take showers in a semi open area and use the pools full nude and nobody bothers at your ding-a-ling.

Thigh massage are performed in the main lounge, at your armchair, the girl pulls down your boxers and covers all with the never missing large towels. But what happens underneath is quite clear.

Nobody cares.

Maybe gets inspired.

Body scrub is performed in large cubicles with sort of frozen glasses (the humidity does the rest) but from the outside management can have an idea of what goes on inside, if they want.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1976840]Two, three years ago prices were lower and there was no need to pay the girl separately as the recent trend seems to be.[/QUOTE]The rules are apparently changing again. No need to pay separately starting next month, so back to how things were before. Alas the higher prices are likely to stay.

Hi everyone,

Just arrived in Macau but trolling on the forum as unregistered for a while already.

While going through the reports I also found a great website with detailed reports of most sauna in Macau.

They are a bit dated (2014) but they give a pretty good idea of what to find in Macau.

[URL]http://rockitreports.com/category/sex-in-macau/[/URL]

I hope this help and that I can contribute more but I am very limited on funds so no paid membership access:

[QUOTE=HappyMan89;1984102]Hi everyone,

Just arrived in Macau but trolling on the forum as unregistered for a while already.

While going through the reports I also found a great website with detailed reports of most sauna in Macau.

They are a bit dated (2014) but they give a pretty good idea of what to find in Macau.

[URL]http://rockitreports.com/category/sex-in-macau/[/URL]

I hope this help and that I can contribute more but I am very limited on funds so no paid membership access:[/QUOTE]To Happy Man,

If you are limited in funds what the hell are you doing in Macau the most expensive place in Asia to play.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1988124]To Happy Man,

If you are limited in funds what the hell are you doing in Macau the most expensive place in Asia to play.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Because the saunas in Macau are unique, and, to my opinion, are a box that any international monger needs to croos. Sure, you get FS for far less on the streets of BKK, but no place there where you can relax for the full day, with food, and some collateral services, between FS sessions. Actually you can save on food and accommodation in staying all 24 h (or more) in sauna, as long as you consume a minimum of the services. Check with papa-san.

Decided to check out The One in the Landmark Hotel so I bought a coupon from a travel agent at the ferry terminal. I also reserved a room at the hotel as it was only 600 and that beats sleeping in a room full of snoring men at a sauna. The hotel shuttle bus has an irregular schedule so I hailed a cab to the Landmark, no troubles getting there. The hotel is modern and luxurious, but it finding my room involved two lifts and asking directions. After dropping my bag, I headed through the hotel maze and found the sauna on the 2nd floor below the casino.

The sauna is also luxurious, and feels very new. The styling is more modern and black, and the resting area has more privacy than other places like Rio. After showering I claimed a lounge and ordered a watermelon juice. As at other places, a lot of the floor staff at this sauna were just as fuckable as the models in the lineup. Started things off with a nice foot massage from a cute lady, and then asked for a lineup. I was taken into a shabbier looking lounge area and given a seat on a sofa as a line of all attractive women lined up. A man from the sauna wrote out the prices for the girls, the rates depended on the first number. The most expensive was the Japanese women, and I am kicking myself now for not taking her, as she was a tall fox with the sultriest eyes that ever looked into mine. Instead I went with a hot skinny viet with a cute face #711. She led me to the room, did the usual table shower routine, cat kisses, BBBJ and CFS multiple positions. FF her for a few moments, and she gave non-messy DT with a little teeth on my thick cock, saw her spit a mouthful of saliva into the trashcan instead of onto me. Great technique. Pretty good overall 7/10.

After that I went back to the resting area and made eye contact with another foot massage lady. She looked really pretty to me, so I got her to give me a massage. Her friend talked to her the entire time and I figured out that she was a thigh masseuse. When the session ended I was disappointed her friend did not ask me to get a massage, despite having her hand on my body the entire time her friend was working on me. So I got one of the floor staff to find her again, and she was really happy that I asked her back. She put a towel over my lap, pulled off my boxers and proceeded to give me a 25 minute light touch handjob. Her friend the foot masseuse came over to talk to her, and so did her other friend the facial masseuse. The whole time they were chatting away while the facial girl was playing with my nipples. All of them were vietnamese lookers. I put them all to work at the same time when I ordered the second thigh massage. It took a lot of will not to bust, and she was stroking my cock constantly for the next 25 minutes while her other friends were massaging my head or my legs. When it ended they begged me to take the thigh girl to another room and finish me off, but I turned that down to ask for another lineup. They asked me to see them again afterwards anyway.

It was much later now, and the vast majority of girls were with customers or had left. But there were a couple of good looking girls. I chose #609, a cute viet spinner with enhanced tits and a great smile. She looked at me with lust and I had to have her. Led to the room, shower again. This time she spends a lot of time on my ass, and I feel her tongue there too. I never ask for rimjobs, but I gladly take them. Dried off, hit the bed. She starts with a nice BJ, rimming. I spin her tight bod so her ass is over my face. Start 69 for a good 15 minutes. Her box tastes and smells great, she came a lot. Made her grind my nose into her pussy, and consistently made her scream by fumbling her clit with my lips while reaching up to tweak her nipples. She gets off my face, throws a condom on my dick and starts to ride aggressively. I take her cowgirl by lifting my hips up to better match her thrusts to grind myself into her to my balls. Take her from the top and pound her mish, and then spoon. She rides again on top like a bronco. My pelvis is getting a little sore, and I can only imagine how she felt with my larger self pounding her like an animal. I ask her to finish me off with a HJ. She sucks my nipples while I shoot a monster load onto my stomach, her hair and my neck. Hot little viet! 8/10.

Went back to my hotel room at 2 am completely drained with a smile on my face.

Thanks, GoodTiming. Great trip report and review of The One Sauna at the Landmark Hotel. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Although I have heard good things about The One, so far I have not had the opportunity to go there. I have a hunch I will correct this neglectful situation on my next trip to Macau.

A few questions remain from your report that I am hoping you can fill me in on. 1. Approximately how many girls where in the 1st lineup and what was the breakdown per nationality? 2. What was the asking price for the Japanese girl as well as the Chinese and Vietnamese girls? This information would be very relevant in order to make a comparison to some other saunas and get an idea of where The One Sauna fits into the Macau hierarchy.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1991310]A few questions remain from your report that I am hoping you can fill me in on. 1. Approximately how many girls where in the 1st lineup and what was the breakdown per nationality? 2. What was the asking price for the Japanese girl as well as the Chinese and Vietnamese girls? This information would be very relevant in order to make a comparison to some other saunas and get an idea of where The One Sauna fits into the Macau hierarchy.[/QUOTE]1) The first lineup was around 15 girls, and I didn't catch the nationalities. There were a couple of white women, and I am guessing a Japanese woman.

2) The prices started at 2 K and went up to 4 K for the Japanese.

I ended up spending 5 K that night - 2 K for the package, and 3 K in extra services.

[QUOTE=GoodTiming;1991468]1) The first lineup was around 15 girls, and I didn't catch the nationalities. There were a couple of white women, and I am guessing a Japanese woman.

2) The prices started at 2 K and went up to 4 K for the Japanese.

I ended up spending 5 K that night - 2 K for the package, and 3 K in extra services.[/QUOTE]Macau is getting as high as Japan or more. Not a good value anymore IMHO but glad you had a good time for 600 usd. Even back in US I can get 5 different girl or 8 massages with HJs LOL.

Not even interested in going back anymore. Shit HK is a better value.

PC out.

[QUOTE=GoodTiming;1991468]

2) The prices started at 2 K and went up to 4 K for the Japanese.
.[/QUOTE]At the best she was Korean not certainly a Japanese.

Why should one move to Macau for those cheap earning compared to what they get back home?

There usually is at least a "Korean"in all line ups.

[QUOTE=GoodTiming;1991211]Decided to check out The One in the Landmark Hotel so I bought a coupon from a travel agent at the ferry terminal. attractive women lined up. A man from the sauna wrote out the prices for the girls, the rates depended on the first number.
When it ended they begged me to take the thigh girl to another room and finish me off, but I turned that down to ask for another lineup. They asked me to see them again afterwards anyway.

It was much later now, and the vast majority of girls were with customers or had left. But there were a couple of good looking little viet! 8/10.

Went back to my hotel room at 2 am completely drained with a smile on my face.[/QUOTE]Great report, just missing the prices.
But you corrected thus afterwards.

From your wording it seems we have an alternative to Rio, am I right?

Is the thigh massage taking place, on demand, in a separate and private room?

Used to be so at Rio, and taking 2-3 sessions lead to a end if you could get some chemistry with the lady. One even granted top access.

Not anymore.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1991768]Macau is getting as high as Japan or more. Not a good value anymore IMHO but glad you had a good time for 600 usd. Even back in US I can get 5 different girl or 8 massages with HJs LOL.
Not even interested in going back anymore. Shit HK is a better value.PC out.[/QUOTE]Agreed Macau sauna prices ARE getting out of hand, but they were always higher than all the other destinations that I frequent. The question is; when will these high prices begin to affect demand or have they begun to already? In my case, the most I have paid so far is 2500 mop which is a hell of a lot, but then the quality of the Chinese girl and her service was very good. I have no regrets. But, I have not sprung for the ++ 3000 mop Chinese, Korean, or faux Japanese girls yet, LOL, but I can tell you without exaggeration that the ones that I have seen at Rio sauna are absolute stunners. I do not see girls this hot in my favorite BKK soapies at any price. They are real model, car show quality. No BS!

I gave up on HKG approximately 4 years ago. I found the quality in Wanchai bars to be spotty to say the least and I refuse to pay 1500 hk for an over-the-hill Pinay or Indonesian, which most of the bar girls are. I have had better luck with the occasional attractive Chinese SW's over in TST (500 hk 4 years ago) and the 141 hotel reservation girls with asking prices from 800 hk up to 1800 hk when I was there and now I see ++2000 hk for the Korean and Japanese 141 girls. HKG is where I scored real Japanese girls (1800 hk 4 years ago and earlier).

Lastly, while I believe it is wrong to compare Asian prices to USA sexual prison prices, I can tell you with absolute certainty that if I want similar Macau top quality and service in America I am going to pay $500/ hour and for a 2 hour GFE session in my home - $1000 minimum/more likely $1500. Let's not start a price war discussion. I am sure one can pay less. I am talking about high, model quality American call girls.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1992343]Agreed Macau sauna prices ARE getting out of hand, but they were always higher than all the other destinations that I frequent. The question is; when will these high prices begin to affect demand or have they begun to already? In my case, the most I have paid so far is 2500 mop which is a hell of a lot, but then the quality of the Chinese girl and her service was very good. I have no regrets. But, I have not sprung for the ++ 3000 mop Chinese, Korean, or faux Japanese girls yet, LOL, but I can tell you without exaggeration that the ones that I have seen at Rio sauna are absolute stunners. I do not see girls this hot in my favorite BKK soapies at any price. They are real model, car show quality. No BS!

I gave up on HKG approximately 4 years ago. I found the quality in Wanchai bars to be spotty to say the least and I refuse to pay 1500 hk for an over-the-hill Pinay or Indonesian, which most of the bar girls are. I have had better luck with the occasional attractive Chinese SW's over in TST (500 hk 4 years ago) and the 141 hotel reservation girls with asking prices from 800 hk up to 1800 hk when I was there and now I see ++2000 hk for the Korean and Japanese 141 girls. HKG is where I scored real Japanese girls (1800 hk 4 years ago and earlier).

Lastly, while I believe it is wrong to compare Asian prices to USA sexual prison prices, I can tell you with absolute certainty that if I want similar Macau top quality and service in America I am going to pay $500/ hour and for a 2 hour GFE session in my home - $1000 minimum/more likely $1500. Let's not start a price war discussion. I am sure one can pay less. I am talking about high, model quality American call girls.[/QUOTE]Price war never crossed my mind LOL. Was only making comments based on my experiences and likes.

Had a very nice V therapist in Macau many times for hotel service as well as Chinese Sauna girls after work. Never paid more than I thought was fair. Macau is so high in all areas these days from food to pussy. LOL.

PC out.

After reading posts the last several years on the Macau scene, I was finally able to schedule a visit between a long Hong Kong layover and Sea / TAC. Reading the posts definitely assisted my actions.

Hopped off the plane and no customs. I took the jet boat from HKG direct Macau. Paid $17 for one way. Note if you get sea sick which I don't plan accordingly. The South China Sea was roaring with 8 foot waves the weather was terrible. The Jet Boat although very comfortable was getting thrown around pretty good.

Arrived at Macau and buses were waiting to take passengers to any casino. Free! No cabs like Vegas. The size of the casinos were overwhelming. MGM, Sands, Wynn, Venetian, Galaxy and all of the others. At first it was pretty chaotic but I knew where my bus was going. Direct Hotel Rio!! Got off the bus and toured the casino briefly on my way up to the 5th floor. I was greeted by the Mgr who was on duty. He seemed surprised to see an American visit his place. He mentioned that not many use their services. He walked me into the locker room where a male attendant assisted me. I would had preferred a young 18 year old Thai or Viet honey. They gave me pricing with a menu and I was off to the races. My first time thru just wanted to get my bearings. I saw a bunch of women giving foot rubs, pedicures, etc. Many fat Chinese types laying around. Some sleeping, others smoking. Not to appealing.

I chose to hit the Rio pool which was almost Olympic size. It was still rather quiet and early maybe 7 pm. The Mgr came by to see if I was ready to see some gals. I told him 30 minutes. He offered me a free hot shower massage. Sure!! He walked me over to a shower area Adjacent to the pool. Out comes a smoking hot chick. He introduces his newest employee. Anna from Malaysia.

She spoke perfect English and instructed me to sit. The chair had a hole it it so my ass and jewels were exposed on the bottom side. Anna made small talk as she lathered me up and caressed me with warm water not being sure to miss any of the vital spots.

Remembering all the posts I've read over the years, I attempted to get her back to my room afterwards. No go because she was too new and didn't want to risk getting caught leaving with a guest. She did however give my an awesome rub almost making me Lose it several times. I was ready to see some action now.

By now the place began to fill up and the Mgr had all the girls do a lineup. Several Asisn guys were waiting trying to make a decision. Too bad for them, I walked right in front of them and became the Rude American. I saw a nugget checking me out and smiling on the very far right side of the lineup. First come First Serve. She was tall and athletically built. No English but mentioned she was from Shenzen.

She took me thru a long corridor and we finally reached the room. Very nice with a bed, mirror, small spa for a milk bath.

And large screen panel TV with porn. We got the show on the road. East meets West. In the end the buildup of baths, massages, teasing, fondling just didn't do it for me. My China doll was just that. A China Doll. All show and no action. Very mechanical and would barely let me get more then a few inches inside her. No Doggy or others desired positions. An attractive woman that had zero game. Very disappointed. As we completed she could tell I was not satisfied. The manager asked me about my experience as I ended back in the lounge for a pedicare. A gave him 2 thumbs down!! He told me he'd guarantee me a better girl at a reduced.

Rate. I declined and asked for a pedicure deal. He complied. Two older Viet women treated me like a king without any sexual favors.

Damage done at checkout time $390 US dollars. I knew Rio to be expensive and it was a bucket list type of experience but for that kind of coin, I could have had 4 Latina stunners in MDE, PTY, DR or Costa Rica. I prefer those big ass Latinas that have that Animalistic fucking gene in them.

16 more hours in Macau and what to do?? Took a quick nap and headed over to MGM Grand for an unbelievable breakfast.

It set me back $34 dollars but was delicious. Fantastic service too. The employees in all of the casinos couldn't have been nicer. Mainly from Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia. Didn't see to many free lancers but I was in the casinos sunup.

Put my track shoes on and walked the city. After a few hours to my surprise I stumbled upon Big Boss Massage. At the corner of.

A busy intersection. I rode the elevator up to the 18 floor and and was greeted by a few gals working the entrance. They had a discount rate until 6 pm. Round 2.

I entered, changed and all of the other theatrics that go on in Macau. Big Boss has their spa / jacuzzi's in this large room with a.

Panoramic view of the entire city. Really cool. A gal came in not too attractive from Vietnam to give me a massage. Half hour later I entered this large room full of reclining chairs, TV's, small eating area, etc. Mostly Thai and Vietnamese gals hawking shoulder, Thigh rubs along with manicures. I declined but could tell the talent was not too bad. I had a chicken dish, egg rolls, rice and juice. Just kicking back and taking in the scene. I was the only non Asian in the place and stuck out like quite well. The bath robe was kind of a joke. All else top shelf.

I enjoyed the theatrics and all of the woman soliciting me. They practiced their English and genuinely seemed interested in this.

Athletically built American. Now it's time for a line up. Being it was mid afternoon there were only 6 girls. Two were hot. I was thinking of a 3 some but didn't have enough cash and my ATM card was not working. So I settled for a cute Vietnamese gal with a fake rack. This girl was 100% GFE. Nothing was off limits. It seems the management staff number one concern at Big Boss is customer satisfaction. She almost begged me to give the Mgt team a positive review of her at checkout. My little Viet cutie kept asking if everything was OK? Her deep throat was more than OK. Licking me everywhere in the shower OK. And I mean everywhere. Shagging in every possible position more than OK. Sucking me off to completion and massaging herself in my release.

The best!! We laid with each other after showering having small talk. She asked to see her later after work but unfortunately declined having to head back to HKG. Otherwise I would have definitely pounded out a few more.

Reflecting back on my experience it was probably my first and last time unless delayed at HKG airport. Too many other hot spots closer to the US. Returning back to Asia I would go with Cebu, Thailand or Jakarta. Hope this helps!! My two cents. Happy trails.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1992343]...I gave up on HKG approximately 4 years ago. I found the quality in Wanchai bars to be spotty to say the least and I refuse to pay 1500 hk for an over-the-hill Pinay or Indonesian, which most of the bar girls are. I have had better luck with the occasional attractive Chinese SW's over in TST (500 hk 4 years ago) and the 141 hotel reservation girls with asking prices from 800 hk up to 1800 hk when I was there and now I see ++2000 hk for the Korean and Japanese 141 girls. HKG is where I scored real Japanese girls (1800 hk 4 years ago and earlier)...[/QUOTE]Yeah, I remember a few years back when I was spending a few days in Hong Kong, I could never fathom the attraction of those Wanchai bars, full of milfy Pinay. Yet, they were packed with ex-pats, fighting for the few decent looking girls there. And they wanted 1500 and sometimes 2000 HK dollars. I found the Hop Yee / Fuji bldgs and the 141 girls a much better deal. I have not been back to the HK scene in years.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1992343]...Lastly, while I believe it is wrong to compare Asian prices to USA sexual prison prices, I can tell you with absolute certainty that if I want similar Macau top quality and service in America I am going to pay $500/ hour and for a 2 hour GFE session in my home - $1000 minimum/more likely $1500. Let's not start a price war discussion. I am sure one can pay less. I am talking about high, model quality American call girls.[/QUOTE]True, I paid those prices and more in the US. Mongering is indeed very expensive in the US, at least for white chicks. Asian chicks are still easy on the wallet.

[QUOTE=Trifecta68;1995031] My China doll was just that. A China Doll. All show and no action. Very mechanical and would barely let me get more then a few inches inside her. No Doggy or others desired positions. An attractive woman that had zero game. Very disappointed. .[/QUOTE]This is absolutely frightening. US $390!for few inches in and one position? I am in HK now and considering going precisely to Rio for my first ever visit to Macau but if this happened to me it would be an absolute disaster. The only reason I am heading to Macau is to sample the legendary China doll beauties I've been reading about on this board and now I read this report. I regard any session in which I do not get to do multiple positions a complete waste. Whatever happens I suppose I'd regard it as having been there done that.

Would somebody please explain the color-coded outfit system in 18 sauna?

PRC = Red / black.

Taiwan = Orange.

Vietnam = ?

Korea = ?

Thailand = ?

Others = ?

[QUOTE=Turgid;1996027]This is absolutely frightening. US $390!for few inches in and one position? I am in HK now and considering going precisely to Rio for my first ever visit to Macau but if this happened to me it would be an absolute disaster. The only reason I am heading to Macau is to sample the legendary China doll beauties I've been reading about on this board and now I read this report. I regard any session in which I do not get to do multiple positions a complete waste. Whatever happens I suppose I'd regard it as having been there done that.[/QUOTE]YMMV with any girl in any establishment in any country.

In Macau, I had one of my best ever punt with a young Viet Hottie, for less than 200 $. Difficult to make out before hand if the girl you choose from a lineup will be a dead fish or a PSE / GFE experience.

The only way to be sure not to have a wasted session, is to have none.

[QUOTE=Dreams;2001247]...The only way to be sure not to have a wasted session, is to have none.[/QUOTE]Not an option buddy.

Thank you very much Trifecta68 for the very complete report!

I am thinking of getting a multiple hour treatment in Macau just after my arrival in HKG next month. Will probably need a place where I can rest and nap. Earlier reports mentioned those places.

Hardy.

[QUOTE=Trifecta68;1995031]Reflecting back on my experience it was probably my first and last time unless delayed at HKG airport. Too many other hot spots closer to the US. Returning back to Asia I would go with Cebu, Thailand or Jakarta. Hope this helps!! My two cents. Happy trails.[/QUOTE]

It happens to me 50% of the time hence I stopped going. For the price and service. Its not worth it. Darling is the only sauna that is consistent service. But its not a true full-on sauna like the other big names. Eastspa and its more expensive castle spa sometimes got stunners but I can't take a chance and risk only getting vanilla sex when I can find that in China brothel for only 30 usd! And there just as young (sometimes younger) and very cute looking. For 300+usd I'm looking for the full course menu.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1996027]This is absolutely frightening. US $390!for few inches in and one position? I am in HK now and considering going precisely to Rio for my first ever visit to Macau but if this happened to me it would be an absolute disaster. The only reason I am heading to Macau is to sample the legendary China doll beauties I've been reading about on this board and now I read this report. I regard any session in which I do not get to do multiple positions a complete waste. Whatever happens I suppose I'd regard it as having been there done that.[/QUOTE]

Needing to visit Hong Kong for some business, I've spent two nights in Macau last week.

My visit was very short as I tried to fit in a hop to the Philippines within the 5 nights in total I had during the trip, so here goes this report on Macau.

Landed in HKG first day after a long journey with a connection in Frankfurt (no time to play).

My plan was, since I had planned to sleep both my nights in Macau rather than rent a hotel room in HKG, to use the airport facilities to shower and freshen up, store my luggage in HKG station and hop over to K-pressure, then take the ferry to Macau and spend the night there before returning to HKG for business in the morning.

Oh well, so much for my plans, 1. 5 hrs after my FRA flight landed, a colleague surprisingly landed from Istanbul, and with his request to "show me around town" - down the drain went my plan.

By the time I helped him get situated in his hotel, get something to eat as well as familiar with the MRT system, I've only boarded the 11.15 PM ferry.

Reached Macau and decided that as I only have 2 nights and really wanted to experience as much as I could, and this one will obviously be the shorter of the two (boy, was I naive) I'll make a trip to Darling1, have a nice session, and hop over to another sauna around 2 AM.

Taxi dropped me off at Masters hotel, boy did I forget how much of a dump that place is, large lighted sign directs you to an alley in the back of the hotel, guys at the entrance direct you to an elevator that only stops at D1's floor (I believe it was 3rd floor but not sure).

Once inside, an open space with some sofas along the wall and group of ladies seated 3-4 meters away on a terraced bench in 3 or 4 rows. Probably around 25 girls this late at night (a bit after 12.30).

Indonesian guy comes over, tries to make small talk and explains the pricing structure (90 minutes price, 2 pops, Vietnamese gal 1500, Thai 1700 and Chinese 1900).

As I've never been with a Thai girl, decided to focus my selection on Thais even though the Viets and Chinese were very good looking, there were about 8 Thais, one of which was amazing but just got chosen bu another chap while I was focusing on her.

Apparently it is custom to ask girls to stand up and make a turn so you get to see the body in full before choosing, however I was in a hurry, and there was a Thai really staring at me and giving me the eyes, so I just went with her (later finding our she was a bit chubbier than expected though still very good looking).

After some upselling at the counter (there's only a higher class room available + 3% CC charge) which I was going to deal with as my time was limited, my bill came down to 1789 MOP.

Off to the room, started with some nice massage with some extra attention to my balls and ass, then moved to the jacuzzi where we had a nice bath, some making out and a long good BBBJ with great technique to CIM.

After some more teasing and playing in the shower, moved to the bed for a good session, DATY, FIV, multiple positions including some very creative ones. My hostess seemed to enjoy and was in no rush to finish on time (which we did not).

All in all it was an okay session and D1 is a good option for those not looking to spend many hours in a sauna.

Walking out o D1, my original plan was to be done at 2 am an go to a place like FN to spend the rest of the night and take a morning shuttle back to HKG, however leaving so late (3. 15 am), I just opted to go play some poker, planning on taking an earlier fetty back to HKG.

Next day to be continued a bit later.

Following another day of work in HKG, decided to venture to Macau for my final night before departing to the Philippines.

Again the plan was to reach macau by 8 PM and ended up reaching closer to Midnight.

Decided I'd give a try to the sauna at the Landmark following the great review here by GoodTiming.

The One is on the first floor of the Landmark, when you come in the main entrance (in front of StarWorld) take a right and up the escalator. I took a left and wasted 15 minutes crossing the casino and looking for the place.

Once in, the place is almost like a typical sauna, with a few very slight differences.

First, coming in from the outside gets you straight to the pool area, you need to take a left to reach the locker area. People could potentially wander in to a pool full of naked Chinese dudes. Oh well.

Once changed and ready, I headed to the showers. These are also a bit different, they are situated all around the pools, face opening to the pool (and entrance to the sauna). I'm not a shy guy, but in the saunas I've visited the shower area had some (little) privacy to it as an area, here you basically shower with your face to the entrance.

Done showering, brushing my teeth and into a robe (standard), wandered into the lounge.

The lounge is quite regular, TV for every 2 beds, pretty comfy. What really stands out about The One is that it is a really Chinese establishment. I was the only non-Chinese customer, and nearly none of the staff spoke any English at all.

I ordered a shrimp won ton, and asked for a foot massage which came like 20 minutes later as the place had a little over a dozen customers all very involved in receiving services.

The thigh massage girls (I noticed 4 of them), were by far the best looking lounge service providers I've seen in a sauna. 2 of them were hotter than the lineup girls. Seriously sexy girls, didn't get a chance to participate though as things rolled out.

I was in the middle of my foot massage when the one manager that could kinda barely communicate in English tried telling me its showtime.

I was planning on resting and enjoying the services first, but decided what the heck, let's take a look.

Walked out to the pool area where they've organized some chairs for the guys to sit on through showtime.

Out came 1 Japanese, 1 Korean, 5 Russian / Eastern European girls, about 10-12 Chinese and 10-12 Viets.

One of the Viets was seriously hot, beautiful face, tiny body, round beautiful ass and tastefully enhanced boobs. On top of it all she was staring at me throughout the lineup, directly in my face.

Called the guy over and gave him my Viet's number, asked for 15 minutes to go shower again, and met my girl in the room.

When she came in the room, I started very easily to receive a true GFE, passionate DFK, telling me how much she likes me and what not. We shower together, including shower bed, cat bath and the whole shabang as usual, and we start chatting with her broken English then using a chat app.

She started working at the Sauna 5 days ago, I'm her 3rd customer. She also tried claiming her boobs are natural. Yeah right, babe.

Things started heating up again, DFK followed by DATY, FIV, she was enjoying herself and I flipped her over for some 69.

She was clearly ready for some action so we went through 4 positions in 20 minutes until I busted when she was riding me.

As we're cuddling after done, she asks me how long I'll be in Macau. I indicate it's my last night and she asks where I'm staying. Well honey, I have no hotel.

She ignores my answer and asks to join me in my hotel room after work, she'll be done by 4 AM she says.

I take a moment to contemplate the offer, thinking how much of a hassle it would be to leave the sauna at 2. 15 AM looking for a hotel room as I don't have one. Oh well, Wechat accounts exchanged.

We left the room, and I showered while considering my options. After little thought I decided what the heck, this is a new experience, so I dressed up and settled my bill.

Apparently The One doesn't provide a free massage (foot / thigh etc.) for every FS session, so I had to pay for both the massage and the session, it all came to around 2,200 MOP I believe.

Walked out, started looking for a hotel room. Visited 10 hotels until reaching the Ascott, they had a free suite!

My Viet cutie reached my hotel room at 4. 15 with 4 condoms she brought with her from work and not much sleep was had until 8 AM when I left for my ferry to HKG.

All in all great experience and I've promised her we'd meet again when I return to Macau.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2001728]Not an option buddy.[/QUOTE]Quite agree, mate. I have had more than 1000, still counting.

What the heck is going on with all these Saunas?

All Saunas in Macau now cost at least 2500 MOP per pop including entry.

This is ridiculous. Why are people paying this skyrocketing price? Every one lose their minds after losing money in the casinos?

Regarding P4P, I would rather fly 12 hours to Europe, because 2500 MOP equals 290 EUR, for 290 EUR, I can have 2 club visits with 2 pops each, so that's 4 pops in total.

Macau Sauna 1 pop price= Europe Sauna 4 pops price. WTF?

Boycott these Saunas and stop going.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2013761]What the heck is going on with all these Saunas?

All Saunas in Macau now cost at least 2500 MOP per pop including entry.

This is ridiculous. Why are people paying this skyrocketing price? Every one lose their minds after losing money in the casinos?

Regarding P4P, I would rather fly 12 hours to Europe, because 2500 MOP equals 290 EUR, for 290 EUR, I can have 2 club visits with 2 pops each, so that's 4 pops in total.

Macau Sauna 1 pop price= Europe Sauna 4 pops price. WTF?

Boycott these Saunas and stop going.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Macau but from reading this forum I gather that the quality of the providers is very high and this is the allure for me. However, my research also reveals that the service is iffy and this is the reason I have not yet taken the ferry as I am now in Hong Kong.

Ajoy Familia Nobre.

Then report your dream here.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2014004]I have never been to Macau but from reading this forum I gather that the quality of the providers is very high and this is the allure for me. However, my research also reveals that the service is iffy and this is the reason I have not yet taken the ferry as I am now in Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]

I remember the times east spa was 1700 mop. Now its close to 3000 mop. I gave up on macau after the crackdown in China. If they offered two hours of service I would go more frequently but at only 1 hour. Completely unreasonable.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2013761]What the heck is going on with all these Saunas?

All Saunas in Macau now cost at least 2500 MOP per pop including entry.

This is ridiculous. Why are people paying this skyrocketing price? Every one lose their minds after losing money in the casinos?

Regarding P4P, I would rather fly 12 hours to Europe, because 2500 MOP equals 290 EUR, for 290 EUR, I can have 2 club visits with 2 pops each, so that's 4 pops in total.

Macau Sauna 1 pop price= Europe Sauna 4 pops price. WTF?

Boycott these Saunas and stop going.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2014156]I remember the times east spa was 1700 mop. Now its close to 3000 mop. [/QUOTE]WTF! I been at East Spa in December 2015 and I had a Voucher from Shun Tak and I paid 2. 1 xx HKD for ferry round trip, sauna entry, 1 HR full service with regular girl and 2 lounge service.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2014004]I have never been to Macau but from reading this forum I gather that the quality of the providers is very high and this is the allure for me.[/QUOTE]I'm not a Macau expert, been only once and tried only East Spa, but for what I saw there the quality can't beat the best European FKKs.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2013761]Boycott these Saunas and stop going.[/QUOTE]Macau is a good stop in a travel around Asia for visit Hong Kong and Macau (in December 2015 I made a trip: Bangkok-HongKong-Macau-Pattaya), sightseeing the city, and a tourist can try the saunas just for personal experience and check this places with your own eyes.

For who live in Europe and can enjoy FKKs in Germany, Austria and Swiss is a waste of money coming to Macau only for P4 P (IMHO).

I was curious about this Saunas, so I went and checked, sure won't come back for P4 P in Macau. Maybe in 2009/10/11 was more and more better, with better girls and lower price, but I can't compare.

[QUOTE=BaboyDave;2005618]Following another day of work in HKG, decided to venture to Macau for my final night before departing to the Philippines.

Again the plan was to reach macau by 8 PM and ended up reaching closer to Midnight.

Decided I'd give a try to the sauna at the Landmark following the great review here by GoodTiming.

The One is on the first floor of the Landmark, when you come in the main entrance (in front of StarWorld) take a right and up the escalator. I took a left and wasted 15 minutes crossing the casino and looking for the place.

Once in, the place is almost like a typical sauna, with a few very slight differences.

First, coming in from the outside gets you straight to the pool area, you need to take a left to reach the locker area. People could potentially wander in to a pool full of naked Chinese dudes. Oh well.

Once changed and ready, I headed to the showers. These are also a bit different, they are situated all around the pools, face opening to the pool (and entrance to the sauna). I'm not a shy guy, but in the saunas I've visited the shower area had some (little) privacy to it as an area, here you basically shower with your face to the entrance....[/QUOTE]What a nice experience you got there. It also give a lot of useful information, I never been to macau but I'm going to arrange time soon to visit there.

2. 200 mop is it worth it? Or a little pricy.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2014004]I have never been to Macau but I am now in Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]If you really want to check Macau out, Darling 1 inside Masters Hotel is the only place with guaranteed service. It's also less expensive.

Other places like Saunas are hit or miss and cost 2500+ MOP.

Personally, I would fly to Germany for the real Saunas.

If German sauna clubs are FIFA World Cup level, then Macau saunas are just Friendly match level.

Planning to visit Macau for a few days in July. If money's no object, which are the best sex saunas in Macau? If you can give brief reason why, the better, thanks.

[QUOTE=HBomb;2023319]Planning to visit Macau for a few days in July. If money's no object, which are the best sex saunas in Macau? If you can give brief reason why, the better, thanks.[/QUOTE]Read the thread.

The locals (some of them)... and I'm including the mainland Chinese as well as neighboring HK folks are making some seriously silly money. After a certain point it's really just paper. It's the 'market price' just like anywhere else. Just like business class airfare often costing triple the economy class fare. They aren't just pricing to spite you.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2013761]What the heck is going on with all these Saunas?

All Saunas in Macau now cost at least 2500 MOP per pop including entry.

This is ridiculous. Why are people paying this skyrocketing price? Every one lose their minds after losing money in the casinos?

Regarding P4P, I would rather fly 12 hours to Europe, because 2500 MOP equals 290 EUR, for 290 EUR, I can have 2 club visits with 2 pops each, so that's 4 pops in total.

Macau Sauna 1 pop price= Europe Sauna 4 pops price. WTF?

Boycott these Saunas and stop going.[/QUOTE]

I want to start by thanking BaboyDave for his excellent advice on my overnight stay in Macau and Hong Kong. I had 28 hours of layover on the way to Thailand and wanted to get as much in as possible and his help was much appreciated. Thanks Dave.

One concern I had was what to do with my luggage. My plans was to just stay up and not bother with a hotel, and I didn't want to haul a bunch of luggage around. I took the express train to Hong Kong and checked my luggage with my airline, then boarded a ferry to Macau. One thing I didn't realize is you can't check anything with batteries or they will take them. They snagged the battery out of my GoPro which was a bummer when I discovered in on my 1st dive trip in Pattaya. Landing at about 8 PM, I was in Macau by 11 PM. Per Dave's advice I started with Darling1.

Darling1.

All I can say is wow. Macau is worth the trip just for this place. When you arrive you immediately enter into a large room with girls seated in a small amphitheater focus towards a few tables where the customers sit and pick them out. When I was there they had about 40 really pretty girls all there to pick from. The girls are organized by nationality with colored number tags. Green for Chinese, blue for Thai, red for Vietnamese, etc. There was also a couple of girls in the front row dressed all in white. I missed the explanation of what that meant. A couple of really cute Thai girls in the front row were really tempting, but since I was headed to Pattaya I decided I should go Chinese. The girl I picked was gorgeous, maybe the best I've found, and I've been with some stunners. I think she said her name was CiCi. She was amazing. She started in the room by giving me a thorough washing by hand while she filled the jacuzzi tub. In the tub I got a very sensual soapy massage, then she put me up on a seat for very nice BBBJ. Moving to the bed after a while we had CFS in a variety of positions. She was really enthusiastic and fun. After I finished, she spent the rest of the time giving me a first rate massage. Total damage 1800 MOP.

After I left Darling1 my plan was to spend some rest time in a casino and then hit Familia Noble. I meant to ask the taxi driver to take me to Wynn, but I blanked and said The Venetian. I thought they were close so I didn't change it. Actually the Venetian is clear across the bay. Very long cab ride and far from Familia Noble. By the time I figured out my mistake we were on the bridge so I just went with it. I'd read about the Venetian food court being a spot to pick up girls so I thought I'd go check that out. By then it was about 2:30 AM and the food court is closed, so there was nothing to see there. One thing interesting happened to me there, twice. I tried to use the casino ATM machines several times and couldn't get them to work. An older Asian man approached me and signaled to follow him to what I thought would be working ATMs. He took me to a jewelry store and seemed to be saying they would swipe my card and give me money. I said no thanks and went to find another ATM. Later I saw the same guy and he was half running up the down escalator to avoid security. I found another bank of ATMs, same problem. This time an Asian woman approached me and did the same exact thing, but to a different jewelry store. Again I declined and then finally found a working ATM. I'd had enough rest so I cabbed over to Famila Noble.

Familia Noble.

When I entered they took me to a locker room and gave me a coded bracelet they use to charge services. The bracelet also serves as a lock for all your valuables in the locker. I put on a robe and headed out to the spa area where I sat for a bit wondering where the girls were. After a bit I went deeper, this time to a room with couches where they tried to sell me a pedicure. Still not in the right place I figured, I finally asked about girls and they took me back to a lineup. Down a hallway to the end there were about 15 girls. Some Eastern Europeans, Africans, "model" asians, and then Chinese, Thai etc. They quoted me astronomical prices. I think the cheapest was 3000 MOP, they wanted 6000 MOP for the Eastern Europeans. The girls weren't even that hot, mostly surgically enhanced and kind of dolled up plastic looking. The girls at Darling1 had been much better and much cheaper. I politely declined. I left and they charged me 1050 MOP for a beer and the privilege of seeing their lineup. Obviously I don't recommend Familia Noble. I'm not sure why they quoted me such high pricing. Maybe it's because I'm American and they think I will pay stupid prices.

Darling1 (round 2).

I headed straight back to Darling1. I asked the taxi driver about Darling2, but he said it was closed at that hour (it was after 5 AM). Again up the elevator and into the fishbowl room. At this hour the girls were much fewer, maybe only 15 left, but they were all great options. The Thai girls were still there and still giving me the "pick me" look, but this time I went for a gorgeous Vietnamese girl. I can't remember her name but she was every bit as good as my earlier experience, maybe even better. The routine was pretty much the same with her. Being my second round I had a little trouble finishing. I was ready to give up but she wouldn't quit until I was done. She kept at it, trying a few different things, until I finally finished. I really liked Darling1.

It was past 6 AM and my plan was to head to Hong Kong, spend the morning doing tourist stuff, then do more mongering in the afternoon and evening. I will post the next part in the Hong Kong section, but I can tell you now I didn't end up having any sex in Hong Kong.

The ones with serious cash have mistresses and play locally (some of those bar girls are insanely hot) yes they probably visit Macau saunas on a blue moon but not enough to drive the market up. I believe the majority of macau saunas customers are working professionals and office workers. I'm pretty sure they aren't the reason for driving up prices. Which leads to rent inflation and wg rising salaries especially among the Chinese girls.

[QUOTE=DashRiprock;2027699]The locals (some of them)... and I'm including the mainland Chinese as well as neighboring HK folks are making some seriously silly money. After a certain point it's really just paper. It's the 'market price' just like anywhere else. Just like business class airfare often costing triple the economy class fare. They aren't just pricing to spite you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2029399]The ones with serious cash have mistresses and play locally (some of those bar girls are insanely hot) yes they probably visit Macau saunas on a blue moon but not enough to drive the market up. I believe the majority of macau saunas customers are working professionals and office workers. I'm pretty sure they aren't the reason for driving up prices. Which leads to rent inflation and wg rising salaries especially among the Chinese girls.[/QUOTE]The market price wouldn't be what it is if people were not paying those prices. From the folks visiting saunas in the middle of the day in the middle of the week, I'd have to assume that these folks are not 9-5 employees. There are all kinds of levels in the local economy.

Greetings,

My first post so be easy on me. But I'm headed to Macau this week and looking forward to my first sauna experiences. After RTFF several times I have come to the following conclusions.

1) Hou Va is a low cost option for a session. And at a slightly higher price you can get good take out service.

2) Darling 1 is an excellent choice for a session. Good array of choices, good service and a reasonable price.

3) Service in the sessions at the various saunas are a) more expensive, and b) far more hit or miss.

If anyone wants to amplify on those thoughts I anxiously await your rejoinders.

My newbies' opinion is that the real reason to go to a sauna, rather than Hou Va or Darling 1, is for all the other services, before and after the session. That's the unique experience offered in Macau. Correct?

Here's my list of Sauna experiences that I want (outside of the session of course), could anyone offer opinions on which saunas deliver in these areas?

1) Lockers & showers -- Friendly locker attendant, Shower girls with a nice attitude -- playful. Perhaps some short oral along the way.

2) Pools and Such -- Spacious relaxing clean and available when desired.

3) Lounge Area -- Comfortable seating -- not too crowded -- not too noisy -- not too smokey. WiFi for Ipad?

4) Food and Drink -- Available and easy to access, tasty, extra cost items are reasonable.

5) Lounge Services -- Available easily without too much delay. Not too much aggressive promotion. Thigh massages done in lounge. With other services. Ladies are friendly and sweet.

I think these are the things that make Macau special. And the experience there unique? From everything I have read Rio stands head and shoulders above the rest in these areas. But of course they stand above the others in costs as well.

Which of the saunas is the best of the rest??

I arrive Wednesday night and when I walk out the door for my first experience what should be my destination. Have read good things about The ONE in Landmark hotel, and the East in Waldo. Care to chime in?

Thanks,

KB Tahoe.

I am also going to Macau for my first time May 31-June 3. Did the same research you did and reached similar conclusions except that it seems the selection of girls at an expensive place like Golden Sauna is truly world-class. Also got a tip that Sanado Spa is very good quality and has 20% discount if you are leave before 6 pm.

KB Tahoe,

Your research is exactly right. Where you go first depends on what you like. I prefer the likes of D1 and HouVa, and at D1 I can recommend Thai girl #9 for excellent GFE.

Other tips: avoid weekends if possible, and if coming from HK, get a coupon for your desired venue at Shun Tak centre, 3rd floor, which effectively saves you the cost of the ferry.

My firmly held opinion is don't come to Macau if you are not ok with spending large. This is not a town to be frugal in. You get what you pay for at the top joints. The following is my list of favorite bordellos in the order of where I have found the best looking / best performing girls. The 1st 4 places are musts IMHO. I always go to Rio, FN, Darling 1, and East Spa. After that I either repeat with one or two of the big 4 again or I go off and try a new one. I agree with Globalnomad5: come to Macau on Sunday & leave on Friday to avoid the weekend crowds and the hike in hotel rates. I will add that I don't recommend going to the saunas before 7pm at the earliest. The prime time lineup is what its all about.

1. Rio Sauna is the place for really hot, model quality girls. But you will pay an arm and a leg for the super model category girl. Last time I was there they had 2 Chinese super models (3,600 mop) and 2 Korean super models (3900 mop) out of a total of 40 to 50 girls on display during SHOWTIME. I wanted to pull the triger and take one of the super models, but didn't. I chose a really sexy Chinese model girl (2500 mop) instead and had a great time with her, but I regret that decision today. LOL. Anywhere else my Chinese model would be considered an 8. In Rio she was completely over shadowed by 3 out of 4 of their super models. Those super models were TV / Movie actress quality. Simply, breathtakingly gorgeous. I am not joking around about this, but damn, it's really serious money to enjoy one.

2. Familia Nobre is my #2 favorite sauna. Its very friendly and they have a lot of girls from all over Asia, Africa, and even a few from the former Soviet Republics. FN is less expensive than Rio. You can do nice Viets there for around 1500 mop. The Chinese model category girls are around 2300 mop (200 mop less than same category girl at Rio). I have had some outstanding sessions at FN. In addition, this is the place to get a thigh massage. I highly recommend the FN thigh massage before your main event. Its great!

3. Darling 1 is another favorite of mine although tecnically it is not a sauna and operates more like a BKK soapy with a fishbowl of 50 or 60 girls from China, Vietnam, and Thailand. Last time I was there I had a really nice Chinese model category girl for 2000 mop and she was great.

4. East Spa is another winner. It is much smaller than Rio, but of similar high quality. East Castle is owned by East Spa. It opened up after they closed Sanado. I have not been to East Castle, but I hear it is good. East Spa is another place where I highly recommend getting a thigh massage before your sex session.

5. Excellent Sauna (Emperor Grand Hotel) - a small high class boutique sauna. I was staying at the Emperor Grand on my last visit so I tried it one night and had a great time with a Malaysian girl.

6. Victoria Sauna (L'Arc Hotel) - Another high class sauna in a luxury hotel. I tried this place one time too and had a good time with one of their Chinese Model category girls.

Here are two more places that I have not tried yet, but have heard good things about, so I am sure I will get around to them eventually:

The One (Landmark Hotel) is a smaller Sauna, but it has some good reviews.

Excellent Sauna (Emperor Grand Hotel) - Ditto. I hear it is not a large sauna, but you can find some nice girls here.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2041985]
Here are two more places that I have not tried yet, but have heard good things about, so I am sure I will get around to them eventually:

The One (Landmark Hotel) is a smaller Sauna, but it has some good reviews.

Excellent Sauna (Emperor Grand Hotel) - Ditto. I hear it is not a large sauna, but you can find some nice girls here. [/QUOTE]

My last line should have been:

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2041985]Emperor Sauna (Emperor Hotel) - Ditto. I hear it is not a large sauna, but you can find some nice girls there. [/QUOTE]

I have been to Excellent Sauna and had a good time. I have never been to Emperor Sauna and only heard what others say about it.

[QUOTE=WildWind;2041624]I am also going to Macau for my first time May 31-June 3. Did the same research you did and reached similar conclusions except that it seems the selection of girls at an expensive place like Golden Sauna is truly world-class. Also got a tip that Sanado Spa is very good quality and has 20% discount if you are leave before 6 pm.[/QUOTE]Didn't Sanado close its doors a couple of years ago? Or did it reopen?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2041985]Those super models were TV / Movie actress quality. Simply, breathtakingly gorgeous. I am not joking around about this, but damn, it's really serious money to enjoy one.[/QUOTE]Ye-e-s, I have been in Macau only once several years ago but still impressed, I have not seen such beautiful girls anywhere else. I am thinking to go this year again, money is not an issue, problem is that Macau is rather small place with not much things to do and you can not stay in saunas 24/7, of course. In Pattaya I can spend day time at Koh Larn at least, swim a lot and bring good suntan back home.

[QUOTE=Melor;2042385]Ye-e-s, I have been in Macau only once several years ago but still impressed, I have not seen such beautiful girls anywhere else. I am thinking to go this year again, money is not an issue, problem is that Macau is rather small place with not much things to do and you can not stay in saunas 24/7, of course. In Pattaya I can spend day time at Koh Larn at least, swim a lot and bring good suntan back home.[/QUOTE]To Melor.

Nothing to do in Macau are you saying there are more thing to do in pattaya, I don't you have ever been to Macau before so many casino open the last 10 yr one in every few month.

Fast Eddie 48.

I arrived about 4 pm on a Weds. Had done a lot of online research so knew the basic drill and costs. Showered and got the robe, went into the lounge and was the only customer. Got some food that was ok quality. Asked server for a thigh massage and she got a Vietnamese girl in the pink outfit. Pretty face nice bod (which you can't touch) and pretty good Engl. You do it in a private room and she did a good oily job at rubbing my eqpt. Then she started an upsell which I didn't think happened. She offered the standard FS treatment for 4,000 HKD which I knew was almost twice the going price of 2,300. I said no and she said just oral for 2,300. I said "too much" and that I wanted to go back to lounge.

There was another customer now who was also an Anglo so we chatted while he got a foot massage. He said he is a long time Rio customer and this was his first FN. He'd also gotten a thigh massage from the same Viet girl. He said he prefers Rio based on his experience so far.

I asked for a line up. I'd read that even during the day they can have over 30 girls. But only 5 were brought out, all Viet. I chose #706 and would recommend her. 24 yo, pretty face, and almost perfect body. Did a few cool things I hadn't had done before (the Listerine swirly is way better than it sounds). The house condom is thick as hell and I couldn't feel a thing when she hopped on CG. Bring your own if you think of it. She finished me manually with oil and we snuggled and chatted via her phone app for a while. Then she showered me off and I went back.

Overall I was probably over-hyped for the Macau Sauna experience so it was a bit of a let-down. I still have a couple days so I hope to try Darling 1 and Sanado.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2042405]so many casino open the last 10 yr one in every few month.[/QUOTE]I am not a gamer, totally disinterested in casinos.

[QUOTE=Melor;2042385] I am thinking to go this year again, money is not an issue, problem is that Macau is rather small place with not much things to do and you can not stay in saunas 24/7, [/QUOTE]Maybe you could stay in Hong Kong and take a round trip by ferry for Macau, go and back in the same day.

For non gamblers of which I am one, this is what I like to do in Macau until prime time (7:30 to 8 pm) begins:

!. Sleep late.

2. Wake up & go out and grab some coffee.

3. Check my emails, correspondence, and business affairs.

4. LUNCH: This is a big deal. Macau has some great restaurants including 3 michelin star Chinese restaurants. The dim sum is best in the world! Local food is interesting too. So lunch is my main meal when I am in Macau.

5. Walk around. I like to literally walk around Macau Island. It takes around 2 hours and there is always someting interesting to see. I try to mix up my route and see if I can get lost.

6. Rest up for the evening.

7. Go to a Sauna.

8. After Sauna time (if I started around 8 p, it is usually around midnight or a little later when I leave the sauna.) I like to walk around and check on the SW's on my way to dinner. I particularly like the noodle restaurant at The Grand Lisboa. They offer 5 or 6 differnet kinds of fresh noodles combined with one of three broths and your choice of many different side entrees. I like the spicey minced pork for a side.

9. After dinner I like to cruise a casino or two. I always keep my eye out for FL's hanging around the slot machines. One time I picked up a gorgeous Chinese girl in the MGM casino.

10. I eventually head for a bar. Lions Club is good. They have quality booze, FL's, and live music. MP3 is also a good place to have a drink and watch the show ie Russian pole dancers & Filpina FL's. I rarely take a FL back to my room, but it has happened occasionally. LOL. There are also late night clubs & discos where I am sure plenty of girls are availalble. I never stay up that late, however, unless I have jet lag. BTW, Macau is one of the best cities in the world to have jet lag. The town never goes to sleep. The saunas, casinos, and casino restaurants are open all night long and stay busy. In addition, Macau is a very safe city so you can walk around anywhere you like at 4:30 - 5am in the morning without a care, and if you get hungry, you can stop and get some great noodle soup somewhere. Its all good.

11. I go to sleep and then wake up and do it all over again.

The bottom line is I would not want to live in Macau full time unless I had a high paying job to keep me focused. But I consider a 4 or 5 night side trip, once a year, to get my Chinese fix a real treat.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2042759]For non gamblers of which I am one, this is what I like to do in Macau until prime time (7:30 to 8 pm):

!. Sleep late.

2. Wake up & go out and grab some coffee.

3. Check my emails, correspondence, and business affairs.

4. LUNCH: This is a big deal. Macau has some great restaurants including 3 michelin star Chinese restaurants. The dim sum is best in the world! Local food is interesting too. So lunch is my main meal when I am in Macau.

5. Walk around. I like to literally walk around Macau Island. It takes around 2 hours and there is always someting interesting to see. I try to mix up my route and see if I can get lost.

6. Rest up for the evening.

7. Go to a Sauna..[/QUOTE]In Macau during the weekend. Is the Lisbon hotel a good place to stay? Any suggestions for the group?

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2042742]Maybe you could stay in Hong Kong and take a round trip by ferry for Macau, go and back in the same day.[/QUOTE]This is not a good idea ChristianG unless you live in HKG and can come over to Macau whenever you feel like it. To get the most out of Macau a punter / traveler should spend 5 NIGHTS here (Sunday to Friday), check out a different Sauna (no earlier than 7:30 pm) for at least the 1st 3 nights, and then spend the last two nights wherever he wants.

Plus the ferrys do not run late at night. I believe that last ferry leaves Macau at 11:59.

https://www.turbojet.com.hk/en/routing-sailing-schedule/hong-kong-macau/sailing-schedule-fares.aspx

So that would force a punter to leave the sauna no later than 11:30pm and knowing I was under the gun like that would crimp my style. I would not like it at all. Of course the other alternative is to spend the night in a Sauna and leave on the first ferry in the morning. That sounds better to me, but it still leaves valid my main point about spending 5 nights in Macau being optimal.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2042763]This is not a good idea ChristianG unless you live in HKG and can come over to Macau whenever you feel like it. To get the most out of Macau a punter / traveler should spend 5 NIGHTS here (Sunday to Friday), check out a different Sauna (no earlier than 7:30 pm) for at least the 1st 3 nights, and then spend the last two nights wherever he wants.

Plus the ferrys do not run late at night. I believe that last ferry leaves Macau at 11:59.

https://www.turbojet.com.hk/en/routing-sailing-schedule/hong-kong-macau/sailing-schedule-fares.aspx

So that would force a punter to leave the sauna no later than 11:30pm and knowing I was under the gun like that would crimp my style. I would not like it at all. Of course the other alternative is to spend the night in a Sauna and leave on the first ferry in the morning. That sounds better to me, but it still leaves valid my main point about spending 5 nights in Macau being optimal.[/QUOTE]To Natty.

Macau hotel are much better value than in HK large suite price during the week is about the same or cheaper than hotel in HK, if you are paying not on your company expense than stay in Macau or sleep a night at the sauna.

Fast Eddie 48.

I read that it relocated to 4th floor Casa Real Hotel but have not verified.

[QUOTE=JohnnyNeedsMor;2042761]In Macau during the weekend. Is the Lisbon hotel a good place to stay?[/QUOTE]I stayed in Lisboa couple of years ago, no complaints, at least that time. From there I used to walk to FN and back (not very short walk though).

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2042790]Macau hotel are much better value than in HK large suite price during the week is about the same or cheaper than hotel in HK, if you are paying not on your company expense than stay in Macau or sleep a night at the sauna.
Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie, I think we are in total agreement. I will add that although HKG is a much larger city and in a broad general way, more dynamic and interesting than Macau, I prefer Macau over HKG anyday of the week when it comes to girls. IMHO, Wanchai bars are very expensive and most of the girls you find there look like retreads and past their sale date. I do like the HKG 141 action and over in TST I have had good times with the Chinese SW's, but in general, Macau offers up a much better and more varied selection of girls than HKG. So it's been years since I last visited HKG with no regrets, but I am looking forward to my next Macau side trip as part of my next big Asian trip big time.

Stay thirsty.

I stayed at the Lisboa one time too. West Wing. The room was good and the price was right. Back then they still had the Lisboa Race track. I used to enjoy watching the fillies promenade around all decked out in their finery. Too bad they are gone.

[QUOTE=Melor;2043030]I stayed in Lisboa couple of years ago, no complaints, at least that time. From there I used to walk to FN and back (not very short walk though).[/QUOTE]Got a splendid last minute deal with the Conrad Macau. Now to find a good place to watch tonight's champions league match.

Punters. I am lucky to have fun loving wife, are there any sauna's that will allow woman customer? Idea is to have my wife to pick girl from lineup for a threesome.

Thanks for help in advance.

[QUOTE=Melor;2042725]I am not a gamer, totally disinterested in casinos.[/QUOTE]To Melor.

If you not a gambler there are still a lot to do in Macau.

World class casino with 5 star hotel accommodations.

World class dining with top chef from all over the world.

Top brand name store and shoppe in the casino mall.

Largest wave pool in the world 8000 sq meter with lazy river pool.

At the Galaxy resort.

Top entertainment top performer from all over the world.

Top sporting event world class boxing and UFC events.

Oh did I mention top beauty all around the world at the sauna happy to service you.

If cheap hotel and holiday, dirty beach and in your face mongering is your thing then Pattaya is the way to go.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2044395]Oh did I mention top beauty all around the world at the sauna happy to service you.

If cheap hotel and holiday, dirty beach and in your face mongering is your thing then Pattaya is the way to go.[/QUOTE]Well, I never expressed any doubts about top beauty in saunas and that is exactly the reason why I am keen to visit Macau again. As to Pattaya, it is somewhat off-topic (although it was my fault to mention this place), but it is not necessary to stay in exactly cheap hotels there, choices are available. And beaches in Koh Larn are not dirty at all unlike to the ones in the city itself. Anyway, I am not such a big fan of Pattaya to argue much about this place.

I was in Macau last Sunday and checked it out a smaller sauna called Holiday Spa. The spa scheme is the same as the other spas like Rio, but smaller. Originally, I was worried that this spa would be hole in the wall, but it turned out it was ok. The best part of this spa is the price. They have a special where it would cost around 800+ before 5 pm. After 5 pm, the price jumps by 300. The prices are still a lot less than the other saunas.

The selection of girls was ok. It had girls from Korea, China, Thai, Vietnam, and Africa.

Location of this spa is near Holiday Inn Hotel. It is diagonally across from the Diamond Casino down the small alley.

[QUOTE=CancunDesire;2044388]Punters. I am lucky to have fun loving wife, are there any sauna's that will allow woman customer? Idea is to have my wife to pick girl from lineup for a threesome.

Thanks for help in advance.[/QUOTE]Never seen a woman into a sauna. Might even not allowed in. It's a men only business. You should try your own by picking up s girl at one of the disco p, maybe some philipina and take to your hotel.

Certainly not the same experience.

Closest to this is you go to bankgok and go to Annie's massage. They have girls for couples and for women, even a few tomboys. I know. It is over three hours away by flight, Just in case you travel around.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2046254]Never seen a woman into a sauna. Might even not allowed in. It's a men only business. You should try your own by picking up s girl at one of the disco p, maybe some philipina and take to your hotel.

Certainly not the same experience.

Closest to this is you go to bankgok and go to Annie's massage. They have girls for couples and for women, even a few tomboys. I know. It is over three hours away by flight, Just in case you travel around.[/QUOTE]Thanks BionicMan, appreciate your help, it does look like Spas are "no woman customer " zone, will try anyway and report here, with backup plan of outcall. Thanks for recommendation of Annie's massage, will try on next Asia trip.

Did one night in Macau following 2 nights in HK, and thought I'd share here. Did a TR for HK as well in that forum.

I stayed at the Rio hotel, since they had a good rate, and I wanted to partake of their sauna. The room I got was obnoxiously large, it was actually a suite, and had two bathrooms and a bedroom, with another family room / office area. I know casino-hotels in Vegas also do it big, but this suite was easily twice as big as suites I've stayed in at Vegas. I only used it to sleep, so kind of a waste, but sheesh!

After taking the ferry over from HK and taking the shuttle to the Rio hotel to check in and shed my bags, I managed (with some effort) to flag down a taxi and navigated my way over to Darling1. This was actually a lot harder than it should have been, because I was showed two taxi drivers the Chinese words for "Masters Hotel" and they didn't know where it was and wouldn't take me there based on just showing them Google maps. I ended up finding the Sofitel up the street from Masters (much bigger hotel) and showing them the Chinese for that, and that worked with the third taxi driver. Then I walked 3-4 minutes down the street to the Macau Masters Hotel and proceeded up to the third floor to do the Darling1 fishbowl experience.

As for Darling1, in a word. Wow. I'd never done a fishbowl selection process and it's pretty intense. I walked in and boom. There's about 30-40 women sitting in front of you, and it should be noted, there's no glass separating you from them. The manager sat down right next to me as I took a few minutes to pick, and I'd say about 90% of the girls just gazed steadily at me as I looked them over. There was one old Chinese guy who got up and left without picking one, I think he was just kicking tires. I guess that's ok with them at Darling1? I dunno, I was all about picking one of these ladies to fuck, personally. There were at least a half dozen that I was considering but one really stood out, a Thai (number 107 I think?) that was just all about the eye contact and she was just sort of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] me with her eyes. She had long straight hair, light skin, and a great body.

Paid at the counter, and she led me to the room. Massage while the tub was filling up, then into the bathroom for a mutual shower and then we both got in the bathtub for soapy antics. She spoke pretty decent English and said she'd learned it all from talking to customers, so I guess white guys must dig her. I'm sure they do if she looks at them all like she looked at me! Not going into all the details about what activities were done, but suffice to say it was great, and I was ready to get dried off and onto the bed. On the bed, she gave me a long and skillful blowjob and then wrapped me up for several positions worth of fucking. It should be noted that this was my 5th girl in 2.5 days at this point and my "tanks" were basically on E at this point. The condom was kind of a shitty one and dulling my sensation, so I requested that she remove it and go back to using that mouth. She obliged and would not stop until I gave her what she wanted, and that was a spray of my milkshake all over her tits and neck. About 10 seconds later (no joke) the phone rang, signifying the end of our time I guess. So it was good timing. A quick cleanup and a peck on the cheek and off I went back to the Rio.

Taxi back to the Rio was easier because when I showed my hotel key card sleeve (which had Rio on it in English as well as the Chinese equivalent) to the driver he knew exactly where it was. I told him Rio and he laughed and shook his head and said "Sawachi" or something and pointed at the Chinese characters, so apparently whatever they call it in Cantonese is completely different than the English name of the hotel. Anyway, got back there without difficulty.

Got some dinner and proceeded down to the 5th floor at the Rio hotel to the sauna floor. By this time it was 9:30 or so in the (Saturday) evening and the place was starting to fill up. I had no idea what I was doing and the sauna manager thought I was pretty funny because it was clear I had no clue what to do, where to go, or any of that. So he sort of escorted me from station to station. I ended up taking the shower from the Vietnamese girl (cute. Not hot, early 30's, stripped down to a bikini for the shower), and she did a great job cleaning me up and doing quite a bit of jerking throughout the process, she had me at full staff a couple times through the shower, and was obviously pleased with herself. From there, went out and got suited up in my getup and took a seat. Immediately, one girl wanted to give me a hand massage and an extraordinarily cute Vietnamese girl wanted to give me a "leg massage" - so I agreed to both. The leg massage girl's name was Tsim Tsim or something similar, her eyes were big and beautiful. She spoke a little English, as did the (much plainer) girl doing the hand massage. I was only a couple hours past fucking the Thai girl at Darling1 and had barely managed that, and Tsim Tsim was skilled enough to have me wanting more about 5 minutes in. She complimented my size (which is average I think) and was licking her lips and all kinds of suggestive talk, in addition to giving me a handy. I was thinking to ask her back to my hotel room but apparently she had to work till 5 am. As we reached the halfway point, she suggested that I extend them both for another 25 minutes, and so she kept right on doing what she was doing, while the other girl kept going on my first hand for the entire 25 minutes before switching to the other for my second block of time. Tsim Tsim's ear was itching and her hands were all oiled up and under my towel, so a few times she leaned forward and asked me to scratch it for her. It was super cute. Later, the second girl got some toothpicks and handed one to her so she could use the toothpick to scratch her ear without getting my cock-oil all over it. Pretty ingenious, haha. Anyway, that 50 minutes went by in a heartbeat and I thanked them both, and then took some time to relax. As I had been getting serviced, a couple "shows" had already paraded past, with the column of women to choose from being perhaps 20 women strong. I was very curious to check that out, so when the next one came by I slipped on my sandals and followed along.

The manager saw me leaving to view the show, so he followed me in, to stand by and aid me in selecting if I was ready. I told him that it was my first time looking at the lineup and I was just browsing for now. No worries he said, you have plenty of time. I noted that the Chinese guys were very aggressive about picking the women they wanted, the women barely even got situated in line before they were getting picked off. I mentally made a note that this was somewhat irritating, I wanted to be able to be somewhat relaxed in choosing. This would be less of an issue if the place was dead, though Tsim Tsim had told me that it actually wasn't that busy, just average she said (and this was a Saturday night). Anyway, for this first lineup I didn't make a choice and left empty handed.

Went back to my chair and ordered up a ham and egg sandwich and some fruit. Both were pretty decent, as was the beer. All complimentary.

At this point, another Vietnamese girl came by and wanted to massage my feet. She was cute and seemed really sweet, so I said sure. That went pretty well, and I had to fend off another handjob girl during this as well. I had already decided that Tsim Tsim was the prime choice for handies and if I was going to get another one it would be from her. The foot massage girl spoke excellent English and wanted to chat about everything. I was just kind of tired (by this point it was probably midnight) and wanted to get up and choose a girl, fuck her, and go back to my room to sleep. So that's what I did!

After the foot massage, another show was called out shortly thereafter, and once again I followed and once again the manager followed me in. He whispered "choose quick if you want your pick!" to remind me that the more desirable ladies might be quickly chosen. A few were very attractive but I was drawn to one Chinese girl in particular who had long hair and a slim waist, also quite tall (though not as tall as the "models" who were no better looking, just taller still). I think her number was 306, but I don't remember for certain. The manager stepped forward with urgency one I told him, to put my claim in, and she smiled and stepped off to the side to whereever the ladies go when they're chosen. The manager then led me back through the chair room and indicated my pick to the desk attendant there and escorted me to the girl room. I sat down and about 2 minutes later the girl showed up. She disrobed and helped me to the same. She had a tattoo that her gown had been covering that I hadn't noticed, and was a little softer in the body than I'd thought, but still very attractive. She wanted to know if I spoke any Chinese and I said a few words in Mandarin (I said: "I can see your nipples. ") and she laughed. She then assumed I knew way more Mandarin than I actually do and I had to clarify that I knew almost nothing, which she found hilarious. Anyway I really do know almost zero Mandarin but enough to blunder my way through a very simple and crude conversation, and I learned she was from Anhui province.

The routine was familiar I suppose, with the bathing and then back to the bed. She was leery of my size but did not hesitate to lube herself up and sit on it, after several different styles of BBBJ (which were all wonderful). With the condom on, and having so much sex over the past 3 days, I was barely able to sustain an erection and she was also whimpering a little as I made each thrust, saying "tong" (which means pain / painful in Mandarin) now and then. I don't know if that was legit or not, but I don't get off on hurting women so I pulled out and pointed at my dick and then her mouth, and she nodded as I pulled off the condom. This proceeded much, much better and she actually had very little difficulty in getting me off, which was aided by the mirrors in pretty much every direction allowing me to look at this beauty giving me head from whatever angle I wanted.

The orgasm was pretty powerful, probably owing to Tsim Tsim building me up for 50 minutes without release just earlier. My selected girl was a little apologetic about not being able to handle the fucking and pointed out that the diameter of my penis was roughly the same as the size of her wrist / forearm, by holding her arm down there side by side with it. I told her "no need" to apologize in Mandarin, which she was giggly about, and then we cleaned up and I confirmed on the phone with the manager that everything was great, when she dialed down to inform them that we were done. (I wonder what happens if you say things were not okay? Heh).

She led me out by the arm and winked at me before disappearing to their powder room or wherever they go. I went back downstairs and got dressed. About four Indian guys had just arrived and were exasperating the manager in the locker room by asking about not having to pay if they didn't see a girl they liked in the lineup. I don't think the manager's English was quite good enough to understand totally what they were asking, especially given the Indian accents. FYI Indian dudes. This is the sort of behavior that makes you get discriminated against in Southeast Asia. They don't want to deal with this stuff. Either you use their service and pay like everyone else does or you don't. I briefly thought about trying to jump in and translate but thought better of it and got up to go and pay.

My total bill was about 4000 MOP, which is about 500 US. Expensive, but worth experiencing.

Went back upstairs, slept in my big motherfucking room, and left on the ferry back to HK in the morning. I liked the sex in Macau but found the city a little hard to navigate (in comparison to HK which is a breeze). It was also hot-as-fuck and I poured sweat whenever I stepped outside, so that was another minus (granted HK was equally miserable outside).

Oh another thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the Rio sauna is actually non smoking now. At least they have signs up saying so. I didn't notice anyone smoking while I was there, though I'm sure if some bigshot Chinese triad guy or real estate guy walks in and wants to smoke a cigarette, they won't stop him.

[QUOTE=StlDanish;2053802]Oh another thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the Rio sauna is actually non smoking now. At least they have signs up saying so. I didn't notice anyone smoking while I was there, though I'm sure if some bigshot Chinese triad guy or real estate guy walks in and wants to smoke a cigarette, they won't stop him.[/QUOTE]To Sti Danish.

All casino is non smoking now in Macau most of the large casino have smoking area and smoking gaming section for smoker but the fine is not very high only 500 mop.

Fast Eddie 48.

I was in Macao for two nights, staying at the Rio but as I was with colleagues on business, I decided not to go to the hotel sauna so I ended up at FN. My experience differs from the reports I read here as I went directly to the line up room accompanied by the manager. The line up on Tuesday night was quiet impressive. 30 girls ranked from "Japanese models" to "Chinese" after 5 min of hesitation the manager offered me a 400 HKD discount (so better no make the choice too fast) so I hopped for a tawaineses model for 2400 HKD. Number 993 is in her 30's' slim and big boobs which happened to have been enhanced (but nicely made). Rooms are up market, mirrors everywhere including on the ceiling, large bed, TV screen (playing a porn movie LOL) and then there is a shower and a massage table. 993 showered me of the table giving me a kind of massage and a bit of soapy with was very entertaining. After say 15 min we moved to the bed and here again I had a nice massage with a fair amount of touching. Once I flipped over the massage became much sexier and I enjoyed a very sweet and soft BBJ. She then put the plastic on and rode me for a while with several positions slowly and softly which I like very much instead of being massacred so I cum quick. I then took her mish. I was really enjoying her. The only disappointment was when she refused the doggy. So I finished mish. The orgasme was quite powerful. We then had a bit of cuddling, then shower and she accompanied me to the cashier. Kiss on the chick bye bye.

Conclusion: pricey but my overall impression was good. It was worth trying, and as this was my first tawainese I have now a new flag on my collection.

I realise I might not get an answer to this question before I leave. But will start by saying my first sauna visits back in 2013 were to East and Saando, where there were Indo girls doing the massages / thigh massages etc.

More recent experiences have been the likes of FN, Golden and The One, which are overwhelmingly Vietnamese or Chinese.

The Indo girls were cute and English was a bit easier (Mixed in with my lousy Bahasa) As opposed to the Viet / Chinese were I'm making do with my even worse Mandarin.

Does anyone know if East still has Indonesians, or any saunas that do? The actual session there was mediocre but I think the chances of getting one of them to visit outside the sauna are higher. Esp given my experience below.

So it's been a long while since I've been to Macau.

At Shun Tak got up sold the package to 'the One' Sauna in the Landmark hotel. Apparently the reason the package is popular is because it includes one 45 min session + FS. Now I should mention I've spent the last 5 weeks including China so not too keen a Chinese girls at current.

I must say, the facilities are quite nice. The lounge areas is clean with one TV per two chairs as opposed to a common one for all. The even have a few English channels: BBC, Discovery etc.

Basic price for normal services (head massage, pedicure etc) is 220. Thigh massage sets you back 248.

So ended up with a pedicure and foot massage.

Thigh massages, I thought I heard some Vietnamese but both girls were a Chinese, one from Chongqing, one from Harbin. Both very attractive. However, was quoted 880 to cum with the thigh massage (on top of the 248). Also she said she was going to Zhuhai tomorrow so wouldn't (or couldn't) come to my hotel. Second girl quoted an eye-watering 5000 for take out which I politely declined. Not sure if she was asking for that even if she met me outside independently. Either way, she then said if I came back tomorrow it would be 3000 on premises but still 5000 take out. Confused.

Line up, admittedly this was 2 am, but I felt it left something to be desired. I had paid 2200 at Shun Tak which got me the base level girls, which at FN or Golden had provided adequate choice. The One was somewhat lacking. To upgrade to the next level 'model class' was to top up an extra 400. The "supermodel" Korean was an extra 2000. Jeez.

One of the model chicks was giving me the look, however one of the base Viet girls did the same so ended up with her. Retrospectively probably shouldn't gone with the first girl as her look intrigued me but meh. Session was about average. Still amazed these girls learn Cantonese and Mandarin to work here.

So here I am at 343 am alone in the hotel.

Final thoughts, not sure what others experiences are of The One but it is very Chinese, as much as Golden is. The thigh massage girls were generally better looking than the actual sauna girls. I wouldn't generally recommend it.

So if anyone can help out re. Locating Indos that'd be great (If anyone reads this).

Otherwise I might try to hit up 2 tomorrow, maybe East and FN (old habits die hard).

All I can say is fuck this is getting expensive.

After last nights shenanigans, didn't awake til 1030 pm. Alas I missed my breakfast buffet.

After making it out for lunch, was wandering around Senado Square. They are promoting some world Volleyball championship and found myself being turned on by the young Chinese girls dressed in volleyball gear handing out flyers.

So planned the rest of the day.

Went to Hou Va, mid arvo. Actually googling "Hou Va Sauna / Spa" will get you an exact address. Suffice to say it's on Rua de Ferreira do Amaral.

Either way, young Chinese girl at the desk who herself was not unattractive. About 10 girls or so in the line up. Happy hour is til 6 pm, 668 MOP for one shot /60 minutes or 868 for 2 shots /90 minutes. Take out is an extra 300 on top of that. Can't remember the regular hour prices.

Picked the taller of the girls giving me the look and off we went upstairs. Girl sort of looks like the porn star, Luci Thai. LOL.

Either way she is from Hanoi.

The rooms are as described previously, small and cramped. Akin to a Bangkok oily massage room.

BBBJ was not for very long. On with the cover and for whatever reason didn't last very long.

Followed by reasonable length massage and 2nd pop as above with me lasting a bit longer this time. .

Managed to communicate via google translate that I'd like her to come to my hotel after she finished. Gave her my phone number and lo and behold, she added me (but more on that later).

As per my previous post, was hoping to try and convince one of the Indo workers to come back with me. After some contemplation, ended up at East Castle Spa. Can confirm it is at Casa Real.

Facilities here are again top notch. The attendants do seem to be mostly Indonesian, however the girl who gave me a shoulder massage was from Zhuhai. The others didn't appear to be Indo either.

Nevertheless, after some lounging, time to pick. Now the line up is very good quality, however what I wasn't prepared for was the price, with the cheapest girls starting at 2998 MOP!! Wtf, if East Castle was meant to be the replacement for Sanado which I remember being the 'cheaper' version of East Spa, then this it was not. Before I forget, the thigh massage here will cost you 508 MOP.

Picked a girl from DongBei giving me the eye. Now gong on a tangent here, but it used to be the case when they were giving you the eye / smiling at you you'd generally get a good service. However this was again average at best.

Interestingly here you do get to pick your theme. I went with the medical room (being in the profession) myself which served to amuse me greatly; I think it amused her as well when I told her. Have to say though, they do go all out; with an actual BP cuff, pen torch, tongue depressors. Hahaha.

Session itself as I said was average, fire and ice BBBJ followed by the usual. After about 10 minutes of missionary though she did ask if I wanted to finish by hand!

Anyway, total damage was "only" 2998 MOP. Seems as if they threw in the shoulder massage for free.

Crimes, either way, wouldn't recommend (this is starting to be a recurring theme or maybe I'm just getting more misses than hits).

And no, wasn't able to chat up any Indos.

2nd sauna of the night, was debating Emperor (where I'm staying) or Holiday Spa which was mentioned a while back.

Decided on Holiday which is in the area near Holiday inn.

First thing, they appear to accept cash only. Which is lucky as I was planning on using my credit card until I decided to draw more cash.

The showers are reasonable enough, but it overall seems a bit dead. One guy staffing the change room and one the showers.

Lounge area itself is reasonable, if very Chinese in its decor. Only seems to be one disinterested girl as the wait staff.

Bizarrely, this is the first sauna I've been to that has no menu for food / massages etc. Leaving you to just kind of guess what you want to order.

The lounge girls here are thigh / shoulder / leg etc. Foot massage will set you back 120 I believe. The lounge girls are all Viet, got a foot / thigh massage from a very decent looking girl with legs for days and long long hair. Thigh massage is done in the lounge, but I think there's an option for private as my girl went of with some dude some time later.

Caught glimpse of the line up. Maybe 10 in total initially with some decent lookers. This included one Caucasian (turned out to be Russian) and a Jamaican (Now prices: Holiday Spa is a veritable bargain compared with the rest. The Viet girls starting at around 1198 or something like that (can't quite remember) with the 'Thai models' being 1398.

So I know the massage girls can be quite annoying in other places, but at the same time I felt that they were quite disinterested here. A periodic check in to see if you want something would be appreciated.

So after a while, the mama San came to me with one particular girl asking me to take her for 1398. Now she wasn't unattractive but I wanted to see what else was available. Turns out only 4 were available. Jamaican girl was giving me the look, and after 5 weeks in China and plowing through more Chinese and Viet in the past 24 hours I'd had enough and went with her. Decent looks and body, 21 years old.

Won't go into specifics about her personal life but I did ask about whether she was popular with the Chinese; interestingly she said that she felt the Chinese 'liked to try new things" (being Chinese myself, first I ever heard of it). Whilst it was dead quiet, she said that weekends are flat out (like everywhere else I guess).

Anyway, roooms, are not terribly big and the 'shower' is done standing up in a bath. Relatively smaller bed for BBBJ and covered FS. Reasonable enough (perhaps I'm getting a bit over all this fucking?

Overall verdict: Holiday spa is an ok budget option. If you are willing to accept staff which are a bit less attentive and disinterested, you are compensated by the much cheaper prices. Whether the usual run of the mill Viet / Thai girls provide good FS I do not know. I guess if you hit it off with one of them then this provides a much cheaper option to the usual suspects in Rio, FN etc. Again, the line up is not very big.

Alas, what happened to my girl from Hou Va? Well she told me she was finishing work at 3 am. She did message around 12 but wasn't sure I wanted her to come over so said I'd message her later. When I got around to it at 2. 30 am when I'd finished she then said she was catching the bus back and didn't want to come. And so I have been talking to her on WeChat for the past hour. Woe betide me.

So there you have it. Oh before I forgot, I did get a HJ in one of those massage places near Golden Dragon that PcPP goes on about. 118 for the massage and 200 tip for HJ (maybe overpaid). Girl was cute but body not so great. Wanted extra for playing with down below.

Lastly, deciding on my activities tomorrow (if any) before heading back across the ditch to HK. I've been to FN during the day and it was dead as a dodo. So considering a jaunt to Golden, or I could hit up my Viet girl at Hou Va again. Will think about overnight!

Wow Zeppelin, I can't believe the prices at East Castle. It's too bad the girl wasn't all she should have been. But I really like your energy and resolve to hit a variety of bordellos and report back. For my two pataca, I would recommend going back to FN at around 8 pm for the prime time line up or going to Rio. But you don't need my recomendations. You are doing fine. I look forward to reading your next report.

P.S. If you like/want Indonesian girls, like I do, then you have to go to Jakarta. Alexis Hotel and Malioboro Lounge/Malio Club have the top Indo talent in town. It is really really good.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2059206]Wow Zeppelin, I can't believe the prices at East Castle. It's too bad the girl wasn't all she should have been. But I really like your energy and resolve to hit a variety of bordellos and report back. For my two pataca, I would recommend going back to FN at around 8 pm for the prime time line up or going to Rio. But you don't need my recomendations. You are doing fine. I look forward to reading your next report.

P.S. If you like/want Indonesian girls, like I do, then you have to go to Jakarta. Alexis Hotel and Malioboro Lounge/Malio Club have the top Indo talent in town. It is really really good.[/QUOTE]Haha thanks, yeah I've been to FN during prime time and have enjoyed, figured I'd try something different this time but hasn't completely gone the way I anticipated.

Unfortunately headed back to HK this arvo so will miss out. Hence my conundrum about the devil I know in returning to Hou Va or rolling the dice with another sauna visit.

Yup have been to Jakarta but never made it go Alexis or Malioboro. Did thoroughly enjoy myself at Hotel Traffic though, and at significantly less pain to the hip pocket! Haha.

[QUOTE=PeterDen;2046155]I was in Macau last Sunday and checked it out a smaller sauna called Holiday Spa. The spa scheme is the same as the other spas like Rio, but smaller. Originally, I was worried that this spa would be hole in the wall, but it turned out it was ok. The best part of this spa is the price. They have a special where it would cost around 800+ before 5 pm. After 5 pm, the price jumps by 300. The prices are still a lot less than the other saunas.

The selection of girls was ok. It had girls from Korea, China, Thai, Vietnam, and Africa.

Location of this spa is near Holiday Inn Hotel. It is diagonally across from the Diamond Casino down the small alley.[/QUOTE]Nice, walked by this place but haven't tried it out yet.

Is this places service like darling or similar to the big saunas?

Whilst on a business trip in Hong Kong, I found myself having a day free and had arranged with some Chinese friends to visit Macau. The night before I went to the usual haunts in Wanchai. I was tempted to get a Latina in as they are a rarity in Dubai to the extent they are non-existent. But decided to hold fire as I had heard so many good things about Macau especially the sauna clubs which I was led to believe were on par with the German FKK clubs I so adore.

At the ferry terminal in HK, my friend bought me a package for a sauna club which included the ferry ticket. They also wanted to go to a karaoke bar which didn't appeal to me but decided to go with the flow. The karaoke club was called Club 9 in a hotel casino complex called L'Arc de Triomphe? It was very plush. Think the entry was HKD600 or so. We were taken to a room and the manager would bring in 6 girls at a time. Being a newcomer I chose one from the first batch not knowing how many batches were coming whereas the local guys took it easy. Sure enough there was better quality in the later batches and the guys took one each. I thought that was it when we all had one but more girls were brought through and so we all chose one more.

I wasn't sure what the protocol was but for around an hour, the guys were having some banter with the girls, drinking games etc. They didn't speak much English so I had little to say. After an hour or so, we all chose a girl to take to the bedroom. I was told it was HKD1200 for an hour which seemed reasonable as all the 8 girls we had shortlisted were good quality and several were absolutely gorgeous. My companions let me have first choice and I chose one who had initially been selected byone of the other guys. Her name was Annie and she was tall, long hair, light skinned and looked like a model (she had a Eurasian look and was from Shanghai). Was told she was in the "model" category and was HKD1500 but was happy to pay the extra as she was a cut above the other girls.

We went to a separate room on a different floor which was nice. We had a separate shower and got onto the bed. Had some light kissing. I really enjoyed feasting on her tits and her nipples were really erect and long. She was making a lot of moaning noises which were annoying but when I put my hand down to feel her pussy she was soaking wet (also had a very full Bush). Her blow job was light and inconsistent but I managed to explain how I liked it and she was a quick learner and whilst she had difficulties going deep, she was very good at licking the shaft and giving due attention to the balls. Alternated between receiving a blowie and general foreplay before decided it was time to bang her. She gave me a condom but it was way too small and I lost my erection. Luckily I had some of my own and once I was hard again, I did her doggy style and that's how it finished. Overall, I was very happy and even gave her an extra HKD100 which is very rare for me but my friend said it was etiquette to do so and had told her to expect a small tip if she made me happy.

My friends were surprised when I told them she was perfectly pleasant and provided good service as apparently Shanghai girls have a reputation for the opposite.

Later on, my friends decided to call it a night but not before dropping me off at Club 18 which is next to the Golden Dragon Hotel. I was excited at the prospect and hoping for a couple of sessions. I had purchased my ticket beforehand for HKD2300 which included the ferry, entry, basic massage and the first session. Save there was a catch. It only covered the first session with a standard girl. There is a list whereby a Vietnamese, European (there are a few), Korean, and Japanese cost extra. As does a girl who falls into the "model" category.

Once you enter, you get undressed just past reception and put your clothes in a locker and are given a robe. The facilities are not a patch on FKKs. A few old girls give you a bit of a wash and then you potter around. The girls offering sex were not milling around but there was a siren indicating the girls were lining up. The line up was not very impressive and as there was very little difference in quality between the basic girls and the pricier girls (you can tell which category they fall into as they have numbers) I chose a basic girl. She was petite, Chinese, reasonably good looking and was wearing a fake school uniform. Having told the guy I wanted her, I was directed to a room downstairs and she joined me a few minutes later.

Her name was Coco and her English was reasonable. We both undressed and I was alarmed to see her back was covered in bruises. They were however circular and uniform along each side of her spine. She said they were from a massage hammer but they were a real passion killer for me and really put me off. After washing me, she gave me a soapy which normally I adore but my mind wasn't on it. We then moved onto the bed and she gave me a good blowie which got me going again. I had heard much about the fire and ice blowjob- the ice was with her putting mouthwash beforehand but it just stung and wasn't a good sensation but the fire after she took a swig of a hot drink was much more soothing. After the shock of the ice, I did get going again and I finished in her mouth. Whilst she gave good service, I was underwhelmed with the whole experience and quality of Club 18.

Overall, the experience was mixed albeit interesting. I wouldn't go back specifically to Macau if I was in HK and instead enjoy the fruits on offer in HK. Think I would have preferred a Thai style fishbowl more than the sauna club which was nowhere near as good as my FKKs.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2060537]...We both undressed and I was alarmed to see her back was covered in bruises. They were however circular and uniform along each side of her spine. She said they were from a massage hammer but they were a real passion killer for me and really put me off....[/QUOTE]Those bruises are very common in China and are from cupping, caused by low pressure. You may want to google that.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2060537]The karaoke club was called Club 9 in a hotel casino complex called L'Arc de Triomphe? It was very plush. Think the entry was HKD600 or so. We were taken to a room and the manager would bring in 6 girls at a time. Being a newcomer I chose one from the first batch not knowing how many batches were coming whereas the local guys took it easy. Sure enough there was better quality in the later batches and the guys took one each. I thought that was it when we all had one but more girls were brought through and so we all chose one more.

I wasn't sure what the protocol was but for around an hour, the guys were having some banter with the girls, drinking games etc. They didn't speak much English so I had little to say. After an hour or so, we all chose a girl to take to the bedroom. I was told it was HKD1200 for an hour which seemed reasonable as all the 8 girls we had shortlisted were good quality and several were absolutely gorgeous. My companions let me have first choice and I chose one who had initially been selected byone of the other guys. Her name was Annie and she was tall, long hair, light skinned and looked like a model (she had a Eurasian look and was from Shanghai). Was told she was in the "model" category and was HKD1500 but was happy to pay the extra as she was a cut above the other girls.

We went to a separate room on a different floor which was nice. We had a separate shower and got onto the bed. Had some light kissing. I really enjoyed feasting on her tits and her nipples were really erect and long. She was making a lot of moaning noises which were annoying but when I put my hand down to feel her pussy she was soaking wet (also had a very full Bush). Her blow job was light and inconsistent but I managed to explain how I liked it and she was a quick learner and whilst she had difficulties going deep, she was very good at licking the shaft and giving due attention to the balls. Alternated between receiving a blowie and general foreplay before decided it was time to bang her. She gave me a condom but it was way too small and I lost my erection. Luckily I had some of my own and once I was hard again, I did her doggy style and that's how it finished. Overall, I was very happy and even gave her an extra HKD100 which is very rare for me but my friend said it was etiquette to do so and had told her to expect a small tip if she made me happy.[/QUOTE]Hey BeWilder, I found your trip report very informative, particularly the 1st part on Club 9. I believe this is the first post in the forum about Club 9 which is on the 5th floor in the L'Arc Hotel. From your description it sounds good and a little bit different from a sauna experience. I like the idea of drinking and playing games with a girl or girls before making a final selection.

I have visited Victoria Sauna also on the 5th floor of the L'Arc Hotel. It was a posh upscale bordello. Everything was 1st class. Victoria is not a large place, about the same size as East Spa. I chose one of their Chinese "models" and had a good time.

There are no Asian girls in European Fkks. So if you like asian girls from different contries and are not stingy, Macau is the place to be.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2014189]WTF! I been at East Spa in December 2015 and I had a Voucher from Shun Tak and I paid 2. 1 xx HKD for ferry round trip, sauna entry, 1 HR full service with regular girl and 2 lounge service.

I'm not a Macau expert, been only once and tried only East Spa, but for what I saw there the quality can't beat the best European FKKs.

Well there are no Asian girls in European FKKs. So if you are into Asians from diffrents contries and not "price sensitive", Macau is the place to be.


Macau is a good stop in a travel around Asia for visit Hong Kong and Macau (in December 2015 I made a trip: Bangkok-HongKong-Macau-Pattaya), sightseeing the city, and a tourist can try the saunas just for personal experience and check this places with your own eyes.

For who live in Europe and can enjoy FKKs in Germany, Austria and Swiss is a waste of money coming to Macau only for P4 P (IMHO).

I was curious about this Saunas, so I went and checked, sure won't come back for P4 P in Macau. Maybe in 2009/10/11 was more and more better, with better girls and lower price, but I can't compare.[/QUOTE]

I remember the time when a Porsche 911 cost 50.000 DM, now it costs 100.000 Euros. Totally insane. I will boycott Porsche until they lower their prices!

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2013761]What the heck is going on with all these Saunas?

All Saunas in Macau now cost at least 2500 MOP per pop including entry.

This is ridiculous. Why are people paying this skyrocketing price? Every one lose their minds after losing money in the casinos?

Regarding P4P, I would rather fly 12 hours to Europe, because 2500 MOP equals 290 EUR, for 290 EUR, I can have 2 club visits with 2 pops each, so that's 4 pops in total.

Macau Sauna 1 pop price= Europe Sauna 4 pops price. WTF?

Boycott these Saunas and stop going.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spider916;2062585]I remember the time when a Porsche 911 cost 50.000 DM, now it costs 100.000 Euros. Totally insane. I will boycott Porsche until they lower their prices![/QUOTE]Porsche is nice but I am happy with a Lexus. Macau saunas starting to make a Tokyo sopulando look cheap.

[QUOTE=Spider916;2062582]There are no Asian girls in European Fkks. So if you like asian girls from different contries and are not stingy, Macau is the place to be.[/QUOTE]There is the odd Asian girl and also some black girls in FKKs but agree not a place to go if you're into Asian girls. The overall experience is much cheaper in Germany than Macau and based on my experience FKKs have better facilities and girls than the Macau sauna clubs.

[QUOTE=Spider916;2062582]There are no Asian girls in European Fkks. So if you like asian girls from different contries and are not stingy, Macau is the place to be.[/QUOTE]I certainly believe that there are better destinations in Asia than Macau for Asian girls. Thailand, the Philippines and Indonesia come to mind. In Hong Kong you can get a variety of Asian girls for a fraction of the price of what is on offer in Macau. I was in Hong Kong earlier this year and considered visiting Macau but did not. I would not be averse to spending more for higher end girls but what spooked me was the possibility of getting bad service for so much money. No way. Better to be safe than sorry.

[QUOTE=Spider916;2062582]There are no Asian girls in European Fkks. [/QUOTE]You can meet few thai and phills girls in Frankfurt FKK and Berlin. Also some Asian massage in this cities. Anyway a trip to Thailand, Phillipines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Cambodia is better than Macau. IMHO.


[QUOTE=Be Wilder;2063836]The overall experience is much cheaper in Germany than Macau and based on my experience FKKs have better facilities and girls than the Macau sauna clubs.[/QUOTE]
Agree! The FKKs win hands down. Better facilities (with garden, BBQ and swimming pool in the summer), naked girls walking around, no pushy massage staff, better average sex service.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2064380]Anyway a trip to Thailand, Phillipines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Cambodia is better than Macau. IMHO.[/QUOTE]I agree and disagree with you. Based on the amount of time I spend in various Asian destinations every year, my ratings are: 1. BKK. 2. Jakarta. 3. Manila. 4. Macau. 5. Phnom Penh. 6. Pattaya. 7. Singapore (Geylang). 8. who cares.

I think overall BKK is still the best, but by overall, I mean girls (naturally), food, culture, ambiance, infrastructure (hotels & various entertainment venues), things to do other than sex, and relative safety. If girls were the only criteria then it would be a 3 way tie with possibly Jakarta and Manila edging out BKK.

I rate Jakarta 2nd and Manila 3rd, but only because of the wonderful girls. I really like the girls, but Jakarta and MNL suck otherwise and I would not want to live in either of these cities long term. I think I would be happy to live in BKK for at least couple of years anyway.

Macau is my 4th favorite destination because I like to sample beautiful Chines girls and I am willing to pay up for the opportunity. Ever since the authorities closed down ChangPing, where else can one go to find so many really sexy Chinses girls so easily and in such close proximity? Also, Macau is 100% safe day or night unlike Jakarta and MNL where you really should watch your surroundings to be on the safe side. But Macau is a small place with little to do other than gamble (which I do not engage in), shag, and eat (the food is great). I would go crazy if I had to live here unless I had an interesting, extremely well-paid job. 5 days (Sunday to Friday) once or twice a year is all that I need to satisfy my Chinese cravings. It has been the highlight of many previous annual 2 month long Asian trips when I have met the right Chinese girl in Rio, FN, East, or Darling 1.

Phnom Penh is my 5th favorite place. Between 2002 and 2009, before the 2009 bar raids, PP used to be so much more fun. I actually liked it better than BKK. Not any more, although I still like the place. Some guys hate it, however. I guess it is an acquired taste. LOL. But Khmers are delightful and wonderful girls.

Malaysia does not even make my list. I think of KL as a derivative town, meaning you mostly deal with imports here. Compared to BKK, Jakarta, and MNL; KL is a big nothing burger. IMHO.

I have never been to Vietnam. I like Viet girls, at least the ones I have met in Macau, HKG, Singapore, Jakarta, and KL, but I hear mongering (meeting high quality girls and shagging them) in Vietnam is a pain in the ass and who needs that. I may go to Vietnam anyway one day just to see the country and if I meet some nice girls while I am there, then that would be a bonus. Meanwhile I have met and shagged some very beautiful and super friendly Viets in Jakarta and Singapore, so I don't think I am missing much. I just wish Vietnam was more monger friendly, that's all. I would be on the next flight. LOL.

And talking about the next flight; on my next SE Asia trip, I am taking a visa run from BKK to Yangon. I was in Burma 8 or 9 years ago, but I did not do any mongering then. I am not expecting too much on my short side trip, but I hope it will be interesting and fruitful. Other that receiving several thigh massages at East Spa from a very friendly Burma girl, I have never shagged a Burmese girl or had anything to do with them, so I am looking forward to making the most out of my little Yangon side trip and taking something key off my bucket list. LOL.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2064967]I agree and disagree with you. Based on the amount of time I spend in various Asian destinations every year, my ratings are: 1. BKK. 2. Jakarta. 3. Manila. 4. Macau. 5. Phnom Penh. 6. Pattaya. 7. Singapore (Geylang). 8. who cares.

I think overall BKK is still the best, but by overall, I mean girls (naturally), food, culture, ambiance, infrastructure (hotels & various entertainment venues), things to do other than sex, and relative safety. If girls were the only criteria then it would be a 3 way tie with possibly Jakarta and Manila edging out BKK.

I rate Jakarta 2nd and Manila 3rd, but only because of the wonderful girls. I really like the girls, but Jakarta and MNL suck otherwise and I would not want to live in either of these cities long term. I think I would be happy to live in BKK for at least couple of years anyway.

Macau is my 4th favorite destination because I like to sample beautiful Chines girls and I am willing to pay up for the opportunity. Ever since the authorities closed down ChangPing, where else can one go to find so many really sexy Chinses girls so easily and in such close proximity? Also, Macau is 100% safe day or night unlike Jakarta and MNL where you really should watch your surroundings to be on the safe side. But Macau is a small place with little to do other than gamble (which I do not engage in), shag, and eat (the food is great). I would go crazy if I had to live here unless I had an interesting, extremely well-paid job. 5 days (Sunday to Friday) once or twice a year is all that I need to satisfy my Chinese cravings. It has been the highlight of many previous annual 2 month long Asian trips when I have met the right Chinese girl in Rio, FN, East, or Darling 1...[/QUOTE]To Natty.

I think for me if you want pure Mongering on value and options Jakarta is #1 for me and Pattaya is #2 BKK and China use to be my favorite, if you want best quality don't mind paying the top dollar Macau is the place yes I still like to go to BKK because there are so many things to do.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=CancunDesire;2044388]Punters. I am lucky to have fun loving wife, are there any sauna's that will allow woman customer? Idea is to have my wife to pick girl from lineup for a threesome.

Thanks for help in advance.[/QUOTE]I had the same idea four years ago. It wasn't possible to get anything in line with my girlfriend in a sauna. We had been in Sauna18, FN, Rio and Boss. They all refused friendly. Main argument was that they can't guarantee safety for her because of the other guests. In Rio they said also that they are not sure if my GF would do their own business in their club.

Nevertheless I was able to get a Russian girl and at another night a Vietnamese to come to our hotel after her work. I visit the sauna in the happy hour, picked a girl I thought my GF would like and asked her if she would visit us. Downside: I visited the sauna without my GF. That wasn't optimal, but the threesome made it up for my GF. It you want to do so, make sure that your wife is fine with your single session in the sauna.

Last month I visited after three years Boss Sauna again (NOT Big Boss). Nothing important changed. Nice sauna and pool area.

I went for a body scrub, well done. No special services included, only some teasing.

In the lounge area nice food and drinks. Girl line on request. Good selection. Mainly Vietnamese.

60 min session with a nice girl. Very engaged. Loved it.

Overall damage 1. 200 MOP, incl. A happy hour discount (arrived at 5 pm).

It remembered me a bit of the good old times. Will def. Repeat.

[QUOTE=Whomer;2069452]Last month I visited after three years Boss Sauna again (NOT Big Boss). Nothing important changed. Nice sauna and pool area.

I went for a body scrub, well done. No special services included, only some teasing.

In the lounge area nice food and drinks. Girl line on request. Good selection. Mainly Vietnamese.

60 min session with a nice girl. Very engaged. Loved it.

Overall damage 1. 200 MOP, incl. A happy hour discount (arrived at 5 pm).

It remembered me a bit of the good old times. Will def. Repeat.[/QUOTE]Good call but where is Boss located?

Have been to big boss several times but could never figure out where the "old" boss sauna is.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2060537]Whilst on a business trip in Hong Kong, I found myself having a day free and had arranged with some Chinese friends to visit Macau. The night before I went to the usual haunts in Wanchai. I was tempted to get a Latina in as they are a rarity in Dubai to the extent they are non-existent. But decided to hold fire as I had heard so many good things about Macau especially the sauna clubs which I was led to believe were on par with the German FKK clubs I so adore.

At the ferry terminal in HK, my friend bought me a package for a sauna club which included the ferry ticket. They also wanted to go to a karaoke bar which didn't appeal to me but decided to go with the flow. The karaoke club was called Club 9 in a hotel casino complex called L'Arc de Triomphe? It was very plush. Think the entry was HKD600 or so. We were taken to a room and the manager would bring in 6 girls at a time. Being a newcomer I chose one from the first batch not knowing how many batches were coming whereas the local guys took it easy. Sure enough there was better quality in the later batches and the guys took one each. I thought that was it when we all had one but more girls were brought through and so we all chose one more.

I wasn't sure what the protocol was but for around an hour, the guys were having some banter with the girls, drinking games etc. They didn't speak much English so I had little to say. After an hour or so, we all chose a girl to take to the bedroom. I was told it was HKD1200 for an hour which seemed reasonable as all the 8 girls we had shortlisted were good quality and several were absolutely gorgeous. My companions let me have first choice and I chose one who had initially been selected byone of the other guys. Her name was Annie and she was tall, long hair, light skinned and looked like a model (she had a Eurasian look and was from Shanghai). Was told she was in the "model" category and was HKD1500 but was happy to pay the extra as she was a cut above the other girls...[/QUOTE]This is called room salon in Korea, KTV in China.

The normal running room running time is about 2 hours, but I don't know the setup of Macau Room salon system.

In Korea and / or in China these places are expensive places, but you can have quite high beautiful ladies with whisky and some side foods such as fruits.

In Korea, you can not take your lady for L / T, but in China you can and the price for S / T and L / T is different.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2061224]Hey BeWilder, I found your trip report very informative, particularly the 1st part on Club 9. I believe this is the first post in the forum about Club 9 which is on the 5th floor in the L'Arc Hotel. From your description it sounds good and a little bit different from a sauna experience. I like the idea of drinking and playing games with a girl or girls before making a final selection[/QUOTE]There had been actually an earlier report about Club 9 which I found very impressive at the time. Could not try the experience though because I was alone in Macau (and probably it is better to go with friends to such places) and also if girls do not speak English, conversation is not possible because my knowledge of Chinese language equals to zero (on the Kelvin scale).

Here is the link to report I mentioned:

[QUOTE=Mottrebor;1569846]My first post / review on Club 9 at L'Arc, enjoy:

Overall: High-end facility with exceptional girls and top-notch customer service, but expensive.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Melor;2071897]There had been actually an earlier report about Club 9 which I found very impressive at the time. Could not try the experience though because I was alone in Macau (and probably it is better to go with friends to such places) and also if girls do not speak English, conversation is not possible because my knowledge of Chinese language equals to zero (on the Kelvin scale).

Here is the link to report I mentioned:[/QUOTE]Thanks Melor for reminding us all about that Club 9 report. I must have read it when it was first posted and then forgot about it because at the time I was focused entirely on Saunas, FL pick up bars, and the Lisboa Racetrack and not interested in pursuing the KTV alternative. I guess the times have changed and I have changed a little too because now I am looking forward to dropping by Club 9 and giving it a try. It sounds like it will be a different kind of night. I just hope they still have lots of attractive Chinese girls to choose from.

But talk about one hit wonders. This was back 2014. It was a damn good 1st report and worthy of distinction. Too bad the OP did not contribute anything more to the forum. In any case here is his excellent report:

[QUOTE=Mottrebor;1569846]My first post / review on Club 9 at L'Arc, enjoy:

Overall: High-end facility with exceptional girls and top-notch customer service, but expensive.

Girl #1:

- look: 8/10 skill: 8/10
- Chinese (Huabei, wherever that is).
- 22 yo
- 6 ft+
- Model grade
- medium boobs.
- great personality.

Girl #2:
- look: 8/10 skill: and / A.
- Chinese.
- 6 ft+
- Super model grade.
- big boobs.
- bad personality.

Girl #3:
- look 9/10 skill 8/10.
- Chinese (Sichuan).
- 19 yo
- 5 ft 7
- Model grade
- small boobs.
- great personality.

First time at Club 9. Arrived at the L'Arc hotel at around 4:30 pm, took the elevator to 5th floor, which opens up to the grand entrance of Club 9. The lobby / waiting area is comparable to the size of a basketball court with super high ceiling. It really feels like a 5-star hotel, super posh. I went to the reception desk and was directed to wait for a mamasan in the sitting area. A 20's /30's mamasan came and explained pricing very thoroughly - 1600 for a KTV room with girls to accompany and 1500/1800/2100/3200 per girl for intimacy in the hotel room. There is a 2.5 hr time limit and you can spend it however you like: ie. 1 hr of fun in the KTV room and 1.5 hr in the hotel room. There is also a 200/300 tipping policy for girls you do not take to the room, so it is designed for clients going in group.

Anyways, arrived at the KTV room, very new and luxurious. It is about 200 sqft with 2 flat screens, private bathroom, bar area and seats comfortable for at least 20. Mamasan brought 10 girls out in the first wave and told me there will be more girls available after 6. All asians, and most are at least 7/10, saw 1 or 2 that were 8/9, so I picked one to sit. By that time, half a dozen beer, a fruit platter, peanuts and dried fruits were served. Probably enough to feed 4. Anyways, girl's tall and hot even up close (good thing about KTV is that you get to inspect the girl up close as opposed to picking from a distance in saunas) Anyways, we had a great conversation. Not the flirty type but more like gf type which is nice, and then 15 minutes later mamasan came in and asked the girl to leave to get my feedback. I thought it was a nice touch because I definitely give more honest feedback when the girl's not around. I said she is nice so she brought back the girl along with 10 new girls in the second wave. Definitely more stunners than first wave. I picked a "super model" this time, even taller than last time with bigger boobs and model-like figure. We chatted a bit but the new girl felt a little cold in terms of conversation and weren't super enthusiastic like my first pick. Another 10 to 15 minutes later, Mamasan came in with a third wave and I quickly spotted a petite stunner, so I picked her right away. She is a 19 yo hottie from Sichuan, definitely my cup of tea. Now I have 3 hotties sitting by my side playing drinking games. My first pick is the nicest of the three, kept pouring beer for not just me, but for other girls too, while my second pick was still being cold and wasn't really into our drinking games. The 19 yo is being a 19 yo! Very funny and flirtatious, and actually got a long quite well with my first pick. Then lo and behold, mamasan came in and asked the girls to leave to get my feedback, so I told her exactly what I thought and told her to get rid of stone cold steve austin and I also told her not to send any more girls because I'm comfortable with the 2 girls. It was nice being able to kick girls out without their presence. My 2 favorites came back in, and we had a great time. Feeding me fruits, drinking, playing games totally pampered. When it was almost 6 (after an hour), mamasan came in, asked the girls to leave, and asked me who am I taking. I told her I can't decide so she suggested taking both, and so I did! She discussed game plan with me and told me I can take them now for 1.5 hour or sit around for another half hour. I decided to sit. Half an hour later, mamasan came in and told the girls to leave and started prepping me. Normally girls go up on the same elevator with customers to the room, but I opted not to because it's quite embarrassing if hotel guests are in the same lift. Anyways, I settled the KTV bill for about 2100 for the room (1600 + misc food / drink charges), then onto my adventure. It's usual business except + 1. I took turns with both and both took the time changing condoms when switching, so it is safety first, which I always respect and prefer. I took care business at the end of the hour. Shot a huge load onto the 19 yo stunner with flawless skin. The girl called the club to report back and was asked for me on the phone for feedback. Now that's customer service! I told the man in charge everything is good, and paid the girls 1800 and 1500 + 200 tips each, then I opted to leave first without the 2 girls escorting me to use the same lift. Definitely will return! Next time I will try to get coupons to help soften the blow. I think they are available in the ferry terminal.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;2071134]Good call but where is Boss located?

Have been to big boss several times but could never figure out where the "old" boss sauna is.[/QUOTE]Boss Sauna.

Avenue the Praia Grande No. 762-804, Macau (28595;38272;21335;24398;22823;39340;36335;762-804　20013;33775;24291;22580;22&#38542.

China Plaza, level 22.

Entrance to an elevator is in the inside the corner. Just walk in and go to level 22 (or something like that).

Mini review on L'arc aka Victoria sauna.

Great facilities and food, really comfortable, but a huge issue with there being only 6 girls on a Friday night.

Looked ok (2 thais, 1 Korean, rest Chinese) and all were fuckable, but that's crazy low amount for a full size sauna.

Hi,

After reading and rereading almost all the pages in the macau forum decided to hit the Rio sauna. I was staying in Rio hotel and was very happy with the hotel in the first place. I was confused between FN and Rio as I can only hit one of them (only one day in Macau). Finally decided to hit Rio as I might not be coming back to Macau any time soon and wanted to have the best. At the reception, they called for a very beautiful looking girl who spoke English. She explained all the prices and how it works in general. After that I was guided to the locker, where there were some young lads assisting me to undress. That was a bit weird for me, undressing with the help of some guys. I was a regular visitor to Shark FKK in Germany (when I was in Europe for a while) and I felt that having no one to assist while undressing is better than having a guy help out. After this I went to shower, didn't see any one to help out there. Then to a area to get the robes. One ugly old lady helped me to get dressed and asked for tip, even after giving 100 HKD (for doing nothing) they were not happy. After this directly to the lounge area. It was a very large lounge and felt very comfortable. As I was just entering, there was one show and I was asked to join. In came the girls and things started getting better. Girls from China, Vietnam, Korea and some other nationalities. It took me some time to understand the colour codes and the pricing. Initial impression was that it was good but not anything spectacular. So didn't choose any one and went back to the lounge. The second I put my ass on that chair, another aunt came and asked for massage. She was over dressed and old. I said no and ordered a green tea. There some other Chinese guys who were having fun with some of the relatively young girls who gives massage. Nobody really speaks English here (as expected) and it was really difficult to have any fun. Finally got bored and called for the famous thigh massage. In came another aunt and removed my shorts and started massaging my johny. I really didn't get a nice vibe here as she was talking in some language to the lady nearby and was not interested in striking a conversation. I was praying for the line up to be called. Finally when it was time, I joined others who were eagerly waiting for lineup. This time I chose a Chinese tall lady. Cutting things short from here, went to the room, had the famous hot and vold BJ, usual saopy gimmicks and straight to bed. She didn't allow me to undress her or help me undress. In the bed, another routine BBBJ and then asked for sex. I asked her to cool down and started exploring her body. SHe straight away said no and asked me to stop. I almost lost it at this point and asked her to just finish. May be after seeing the frustration in my face, she started cooperating a bit. Finally did her in all styles and extended the activity a bit longer just to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off as she started asking me " Ready to cum" almost every 2 min. Overall, I would say that it was a different experience, but certainly not worth 4000 HKD for non Chinese speaking person. The girls are so mechanical that it is almost similar to pattaya soapies and nothing different. Girls are better looking for sure and that will give you the initial pleasure but it will die down soon. After the activity, ordered a beer, paid and left. Overall a tick in the list of mongering activities. I read in the forum that FN was a better choice for GFE and I should have listened.

Just adding as a foot note, after RIO went to the casino next to ventian and there were 20-30 super hot looking girls ready for business. As I was already out of 4000 HKD for not a great expeience passed that chance. But would try that next time (if at all).

The Emperor sauna stays on 3rd floor (lift) of the Emperor Hotel (not to be mistaken with the Grand Emperor, closeby). The hotel itself is OK, if offering a Chinese breakfast only.

Sauna installations are actually much better than the hotel ones. I arrived a Friday night at 8 pm. Welcome by Dennis, a young local, not too pushy, helpful. Explanation of the rates: the entrance fee (c. 1000 Patacas) is waived if you opt for a no-sex massage in private room (namely Shagha massage, tha, etc. , from 900 Patacas on), Dennis clarified for me the ones of them including happy ending. Same 'free' entrance if you opt for one of the 40-ish 'models' acting that night.

Showers: girls try to sell you a 'japanese shower' etc. ; locker, pyjamas and flip flops as usual. The lounge is made of 3 consecutive spaces, each of them with see. 20 very confortable individual sofas. Smoking is supposed to be prohibited no one cares. Snooker available. The free part of the buffet is tame and basic. The beer costs see. 5 US $, and there is no spirits nor liquors aouch.

Various services provided on-site, as described elsewhere: thig massage, head, feet, shoulders, massages, mostly provided by thai girls in their 30 ies. Every hour, the girls (invisible the rest of the time) make a show, going from a patron to another, touching you here and there (lightly), showing off their assets. An MC tries to put some atmosphere but if you don't speak cantonese, you've little chances to get the funny. Try to remember the number of your favorite ones, as 10 minutes after the show, the 'models' are displayed in line around the pool (just follow the crowd to know where it is). This second presentation happens in silence, the mongers looking at the girls, the girls trying to attract on the modest way. Very flesh-market, and not too exciting, IMO.

I went for a proper Shanghai massage first, as I was just landing from a long flight. Then I relaxed in one of the lounges, trying to interact with my nearest neighbor. He was smoking gold-tipped Chinese cigarettes, I asked him for a try and he offered me a full pack before disappearing with his favorite. Thanks to him.

After a while and at second presentation, I went with girl #199. Tall Chinese, 25 year old, up like a stolen car, fake eyelashes. Then, usual routine via shower, special wetchair (designed as a 'why', so that the girl can more easely go between your legs, etc. Very poor BBBJ, with Listerine in mouth, spitting all the time. Mechanical and boring. She eventually complained about her jaws and my 'very big' dick. Definitely not a one to repeat! I finished myself by jacking off to her mouth, while she's delivering an acceptable rimjob.

Total expense: US 430 - way too much.

Venue: 4/5.

Food (free buffet): 1/5.

Drinks: 1/5.

Girl, look: 4/5.

Girl, service: 2/5.

Following night (Sat.) I went to Rio at 9:00 pm. From the entrance I noticed the place was full of gringos (I mean, non-chinese guys), manager said they had 20 girls that night, all of them Asian but a single Venezuelian. I felt the balance unfair. Too many sausages for me; I left and had dinner in a friendly, simple and tasty Portuguese restaurant 150 yards from the Rio, called Porto Exterior (Alameda Dr. Carlos the Assumpcao, Ed. Chong Yu, No. 606 H), recommended.

[QUOTE=GreenBanana;2076954]Sauna installations are actually much better than the hotel ones. I arrived a Friday night at 8 pm. Welcome by Dennis, a young local, not too pushy, helpful. Explanation of the rates: the entrance fee (c. 1000 Patacas) is waived if you opt for a no-sex massage in private room (namely Shagha massage, tha, etc. , from 900 Patacas on), Dennis clarified for me the ones of them including happy ending. Same 'free' entrance if you opt for one of the 40-ish 'models' acting that night.[/QUOTE]The sauna charge is 1000 hkd?! Wtf. You only got a BBBJ?! No sex? Service in Macau is getting ridiculously [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor! Wtf is management doing?

[QUOTE=GreenBanana;2076954]The Emperor sauna stays on 3rd floor (lift) of the Emperor Hotel (not to be mistaken with the Grand Emperor, closeby). The hotel itself is OK, if offering a Chinese breakfast only.

Sauna installations are actually much better than the hotel ones. I arrived a Friday night at 8 pm. Welcome by Dennis, a young local, not too pushy, helpful. Explanation of the rates: the entrance fee (c. 1000 Patacas) is waived if you opt for a no-sex massage in private room (namely Shagha massage, tha, etc. , from 900 Patacas on), Dennis clarified for me the ones of them including happy ending. Same 'free' entrance if you opt for one of the 40-ish 'models' acting that night.[/QUOTE]I've definitely been intrigued about experiencing the Macau scene for some time. I've done everything there is to do in Hong Kong, and after RTFF I have a few questions that hopefully someone can answer and also help the group out. With that said, here goes:

1. As mentioned above, with the "40-ish models," is there something like this in saunas where you have different age groups? After RTFF, I was under the impression that the women are shown to you and priced based on ethnicity. Just curious as to if some clubs offer different types of women just like if you were searching for a porn category (e. G. MILFs, etc.).

2. What is the best sauna for GFE? I've heard that FN is the best on this. Thoughts anyone?

3. Where can one find the best looking girls that do the massages (e. G. Thigh massages, head and foot massages, etc.).

4. Besides Mainland Girls, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Eastern European, and some Africans, are there any other ethnicities represented?

5. What is the best sauna to visit if I am interested in the best selection of beautiful Viets and Phils?

If I have an opportunity to visit, my plan is to visit both Rio and FN, but if I have to choose, right now, I am leaning towards FN because of the GFE. Thoughts appreciated.

Thanks fellas!

[QUOTE=TommyBoy;2084015]I've definitely been intrigued about experiencing the Macau scene for some time. I've done everything there is to do in Hong Kong, and after RTFF I have a few questions that hopefully someone can answer and also help the group out. With that said, here goes:

1. As mentioned above, with the "40-ish models," is there something like this in saunas where you have different age groups? After RTFF, I was under the impression that the women are shown to you and priced based on ethnicity. Just curious as to if some clubs offer different types of women just like if you were searching for a porn category (e. G. MILFs, etc.).

2. What is the best sauna for GFE? I've heard that FN is the best on this. Thoughts anyone?

3. Where can one find the best looking girls that do the massages (e. G. Thigh massages, head and foot massages, etc.).

4. Besides Mainland Girls, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Eastern European, and some Africans, are there any other ethnicities represented?

5. What is the best sauna to visit if I am interested in the best selection of beautiful Viets and Phils?

If I have an opportunity to visit, my plan is to visit both Rio and FN, but if I have to choose, right now, I am leaning towards FN because of the GFE. Thoughts appreciated.

Thanks fellas![/QUOTE]1) Most if not all of the ShowTime girls in the better bordellos are under 30. After a girl is past her prime she is relegated to various massage services or she becomes a FL.

2) I have found great girls in Rio, FN, East, Darling 1, and Excellent Sauna. But GFE is the luck of the draw. There are no guarantees. The more you visit the saunas the more likely you will encounter it. You can increase your chances a little by selecting girls that give you a certain subtle, demure look, but some girls are shy and don't do this. It takes experience to know what to look for. The good news is that service is pretty good in Macau Saunas and you will most likely have a great time.

3) The best-looking girls are Showtime (line up girls) offering full service. Lesser looking girls or older girls are given massage services as I noted in the 1st paragraph. That said, FN and East Spa have a couple of sexy Vietnamese thigh massage girls. This is where I go for a thigh massage before my full-service session. Rio's public thigh massage in not worth the money. Avoid it there.

4) "Japanese & Korean" girls whether they are real or semi real are the most expensive. Rio has the best looking "Japanese & Korean" girls. Real Model quality. REAL MONEY too. LOL. Chinese girls are most numerous and my personal favorites. There are some very attractive Chinese girls available in Rio, East, and FN.

FN has the largest variety of girls from various countries. They have Chinese (of course) and Viets mostly, but they also have Singaporean, Taiwanese, Thai maybe, African, and ugly former Soviet Union girls. Excellent Sauna had a Malaysian girl the last time I went there. Darling 1 has Chinese, Viet, and Thai girls in roughly equal numbers, but Darling 1 is operated more like a Bangkok soapy than a Macau Sauna. That is not a bad thing. Check it out if you want to know what I am talking about.

5) There are No Pinays in Macau Saunas. I guess they are not considered good looking enough and I wouldn't waste my time or money if I were you on Pinay FL's in Macau. They are 3 times the Manila price and not as good looking.

Recommendations:

*I recommend FN and Darling 1 if Viets are what you are after. Darling 1 for Thai girls.

*I recommend Rio if you are looking for the hottest Chinese, "Japanese & Korean" girls. I recommend East Spa mostly for their Chinese girls and their Viet thigh massages.

*I recommend FN if you seek the most variety.

*The best time to go to a Sauna is around 8pm to 11pm. This is when the prime time lineup is working and not too tired. Before 6pm you will generally find lesser quality girls ie the "B-team".

Location is about 100 meters from Golden Sauna. Face Golden Sauna, turn right and walk along the foot traffic only road until you hit the 2nd intersection. To the left is a casino attached to Holiday Inn. At the intersection turn right and you'll see it immediately. Walk up the stairs and you're set. FYI. They only accept cash.

I've visited this place often in the past. It's a small sauna with matching girls, food and services. What makes this place stand out for others is the low cost. Visited there the other day and it only costs about $800 HKD. For model types add another $200. Before they had Russians and South Americans. When I visited the other day (Thursday early afternoon) they had Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and 1 African. Girls tend to be mid 20's to early 30's.

I chose a Thai girl, they don't have numbers here, and had a good sesh. Apparently she was fresh off the boat.

They serve food and drinks, not as extensive as other establishments. There were only a few attendants offering foot and thigh massages.

This place is for those that like to take a break from spending a lot of dough for a romp.

Happy hunting.

Visited Darling 1 from Hong Kong on last Wednesday. Went to shop 325 on the ferry departure floor in the Sheung Wan building above the MTR, picked up the voucher plus return ferry tickets for 1960 HKD and left by the 4:45 PM Turbojet. Immigration was a breeze and I was in the casino bus stand almost immediately after exiting the ferry boat itself! Took the Ponte 16 hotel shuttle and walked over to the Master's hotel. For the uninitiated, the entrance to the Spa is on the left side of the building when you face it from the street. Minders will direct you to the 3rd floor and I was the only customer at about 6:30 PM.

A young mamasan seated me in front of the open-air fish bowl and explained the options available. I made some small chit-chat about my last trip to their establishment in the Jai Alai building etc. Etc. While I viewed the rather thin lineup which she blamed on it being some kind of holiday. The Thais, Viets and Chinese had their color coded dresses with the models flanking them. None caught my eye except a shapely Chinese model on the right who went back to her room after the viewing along with another. After about five minutes, the talent just didn't excite me and I asked to see the Chinese models again. They both came out and the model I had eyed earlier really stood out (number 838) and I decided to go with her, which was 500 HKD extra. As an aside, her colleague was an amazingly ugly woman who didn't belong in the lineup, let alone as a model!

In the room, unfortunately her English was as good as my Chinese (IE both pretty much non-existent) so we made do with sign language. She was just drop-dead gorgeous - 34 D-26-36 or so with rightly proportioned legs and a beautiful face. Went through the soapy and a oil massage with her breasts on the bed and it was onto sex. Unfortunately for me, I realized I would pop too soon and asked her whether she would do two pops which she indicated would cost extra to which I agreed. So it was two pops with a small rest in between after which I paid her 500 HKD more. As I left, I notice that the lineup had increased but couldn't tell if it was because of the girls who had been with customers earlier.

All in all it was a satisfying experience and I took the 10:30 PM ferry back to Hong Kong as I had other commitments the next day.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2084054]1) Most if not all of the ShowTime girls in the better bordellos are under 30. After a girl is past her prime she is relegated to various massage services or she becomes a FL.

2) I have found great girls in Rio, FN, East, Darling 1, and Excellent Sauna. But GFE is the luck of the draw. There are no guarantees. The more you visit the saunas the more likely you will encounter it. You can increase your chances a little by selecting girls that give you a certain subtle, demure look, but some girls are shy and don't do this. It takes experience to know what to look for. The good news is that service is pretty good in Macau Saunas and you will most likely have a great time.

3) The best-looking girls are Showtime (line up girls) offering full service. Lesser looking girls or older girls are given massage services as I noted in the 1st paragraph. That said, FN and East Spa have a couple of sexy Vietnamese thigh massage girls. This is where I go for a thigh massage before my full-service session. Rio's public thigh massage in not worth the money. Avoid it there.

4) "Japanese & Korean" girls whether they are real or semi real are the most expensive. Rio has the best looking "Japanese & Korean" girls. Real Model quality. REAL MONEY too. LOL. Chinese girls are most numerous and my personal favorites. There are some very attractive Chinese girls available in Rio, East, and FN.

FN has the largest variety of girls from various countries. They have Chinese (of course) and Viets mostly, but they also have Singaporean, Taiwanese, Thai maybe, African, and ugly former Soviet Union girls. Excellent Sauna had a Malaysian girl the last time I went there. Darling 1 has Chinese, Viet, and Thai girls in roughly equal numbers, but Darling 1 is operated more like a Bangkok soapy than a Macau Sauna. That is not a bad thing. Check it out if you want to know what I am talking about.

5) There are No Pinays in Macau Saunas. I guess they are not considered good looking enough and I wouldn't waste my time or money if I were you on Pinay FL's in Macau. They are 3 times the Manila price and not as good looking.

Recommendations:

*I recommend FN and Darling 1 if Viets are what you are after. Darling 1 for Thai girls.

*I recommend Rio if you are looking for the hottest Chinese, "Japanese & Korean" girls. I recommend East Spa mostly for their Chinese girls and their Viet thigh massages.

*I recommend FN if you seek the most variety.

*The best time to go to a Sauna is around 8pm to 11pm. This is when the prime time lineup is working and not too tired. Before 6pm you will generally find lesser quality girls ie the "B-team".[/QUOTE]Thanks. Natty.

Hi all,

I'm heading to Macau soon. Sauna's here I come! I've done all the research I can but can't seem to find answers an would really appreciate your experienced feedback please. Hope I've posting in the correct section.

I) Which sauna's do the thigh massage go all the way to happy ending? If I understood right in FN the thigh massage happens in a private room and has happy ending?

Ii) When you go to a room for full session with a girl how many times can you cum? Is it a one shot deal or can you go as many times as you want within your time limit? I accept that Macau is expensive but as prices are around MOP2000-2500 seems a bit excessive if you blow your load too early that you can't go for round two if you have the time!

Thanks guys and any pointers would be much appreciated.

Thigh massage is a speciality of FN as I have tried the other places and they are shit. FN thigh massages are done in pvt room and they put on movie for you. In the first round the gal just arrouses you and leaves you high and dry and if you take the second round she milks you as well.

As for full time session with gals in macau, starts off with showever, FS and then massage. It is better to ask at the counter and be clear in the begining itself as lot of gals take you for a ride.

[QUOTE=ZoomerMan;2099888]Hi all,

I'm heading to Macau soon. Sauna's here I come! I've done all the research I can but can't seem to find answers an would really appreciate your experienced feedback please. Hope I've posting in the correct section.

I) Which sauna's do the thigh massage go all the way to happy ending? If I understood right in FN the thigh massage happens in a private room and has happy ending?

Ii) When you go to a room for full session with a girl how many times can you cum? Is it a one shot deal or can you go as many times as you want within your time limit? I accept that Macau is expensive but as prices are around MOP2000-2500 seems a bit excessive if you blow your load too early that you can't go for round two if you have the time!

Thanks guys and any pointers would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Will be staying at Emperor hotel next week? Any reports on that particular sauna? Or else I prob revisit Golden sauna again.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Mrpatsfan;2115363]Hi,

Will be staying at Emperor hotel next week? Any reports on that particular sauna? Or else I prob revisit Golden sauna again.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]From my experience on a couple of visits each last August, girls in Emperor are way prettier, but the ones in GS give better service (notably #102). Old story.

Facility in Emperor is better too.

You can also meet the full service girls without going through the shower / locker room routine by going directly to 3rd floor.

Back in Macao for 1 night, it has been 2 years since last visit to this great little city. I Checked into the president hotel next door around 4 pm on Tuesday. Walked around the area for a little bit and saw some young hot talents roaming the streets. As one of the previous post suggested I turned on my WeChat discover function, people nearly, females only. Within seconds dozens of hits came up, and within 10 min had probably 10 friend requests from women. I was tempted but decided to save it for sauna.

I walked into Golden Sauna at 8:30 pm. As with my previous visits I wanted a nice body wash (next to the pool area) and got it from a surprisingly cute & young Viet; I think her name was Mui. She had magical hands & got me properly prepped for the evening: washed me from head to toes and paid extra attention to the vitals, For $130 mop it's worth it. The only downside of this experience is that it's done in the open in the pool area. Often times the bathing girls are not usually this cute, Mui was an exception I think. In fact there was another older & less desirable bathing lady that hovers nearby.

After being dried and tipped the 2 towel ladies $100 mop (don't laugh) I was ushered into the main lounge, right the way noticed the lack of quality & quantity of the girls. One little advice for new comers: if you choose a girl for full service, you will get a free complementary massage (e. G. Thigh or shoulder massage) but only afterwards. If massage is before sex then it is not free. I heard a Hong Kong customer berating the staff & the manager for not making this clear but to no avail. The poor guy even bought a package at the ferry terminal which should have included a free massage, but they made him paid for it since his massage was before sex. Anyways I was one of those suckers that got a thigh massage before sex so there goes another $130 mop. But it was worth it, done by a cute Vietnamese girl (late 20's to early 30's?) with highlighted blonde hair, as usual I requested it in a private booth instead of our in the lounge. Through our chats in Cantonese & Mandarin she told me it has been very slow going for the saunas & the ladies (full service or massage); also recently there have been much less Chinese girls available, there seems to be some kind of restriction imposed to make it harder for saunas to employ them. What a bummer, I was looking forward to a good tumble with my Chinese princess.

Back in the lounge I waited for another hour or so to relax and scouting the talents; instead of the 30-40 girls I saw 2 years ago I saw no more than 10-12 girls and no stunners; and was told not one single Chinese girl. They were mostly Vietnamese ladies & 4 Mongolian ladies. Also there will be no games or shows on this night (slow and not enough girls I was told). Bummer as I enjoyed those playful erotic games on my previous visits to Golden Sauna & Sanado. Several of the customers called for lineup & I got a close look at the girls but was unimpressed. There was one young girl with curly strawberry hair that looked either mixed Asian / Caucasian or Irish (kid you not); very cute face, average boobs but perfect body otherwise, #318 I think. Unfortunately she looked very disinterested & not once walked around to say Hi or talk with the customers, instead was busy texting or chatting with her friends. I gave her a few looks but she just glanced over me. There were probably another 2-3 young Viets that are 8's but none looked like the gorgeous Chinese princess of my dream.

Two of The Mongolian ladies were very engaging and walked around and say Hi. One was Amy (#383 I think) but she did not catch my fancy; the other one #381 (her name Amya or Anya? Will call her Anya from her on) was a bit older (late 20's maybe even early 30's? She has nice natural soft boobs that nearly popped halfway out her dress, tapered waist & great ass. She looked more Eastern European than Mongolian, has engaging personality, sultry face & alluring lips that oozes erotic pleasures. She told me there is a new Mongolian girl who is only 20 why / o & asked if I be interested at having them both. She brought her over (#382, name is Ana), from a distance her face was average, but up close she def had that 20 why / o innocent and shy cuteness; unimpressive be size cup, but slim waist and great ass. They are both $1750 price tag but for 3 some they give you $400 discount. I had 3 some once in HK with 2 Chinese girls at K pressure, but 3 some with 2 Mongolian chicks, ahhh why not. Also I thought For 3 some it's better to pick 2 girls who know & feel comfortable with each other & speak the same language, as it turned out it was the right call. Also I was curious of how things might out with an older experienced **** alongside a relatively shy and inexperienced 20 why / o. When it was announced I am taking them both I heard collective gasps from other girls in the room, even #318 stopped texting & gave me a long look.

The room downstairs was small but adequate for the job; the soapy shower room was separated from the bedroom by a glass partition. It was evident from the beginning that the more experienced Anya was going to take the lead while the 20 why / o Ana will be more passive. As we walked toward our room Anya was already grabbing and probing at me while Ana barely held onto my fingertips. In their room they took the clothe and I was not disappointed: Anya with her natural big soft drooping tits, slim waist and smooth long legs; Ana with blossoming perky be cups that are begging to be tasted & has perfect teenager body; both had great asses, thank you Genghis Khan!! As Anya prep the soapy shower bed she instructed Ana to help me undress, it was kind of awkward. Ana was clearly shy & hesitant and barely looked me in the eyes; no playful touching at all, dank I feel like I should be the one undressing her.

In we went into the bathing room, after some washing and mutual fondling between me and Anya, they had me lay prone for a cat bath, being tongue washed by 2 girls really felt great; the following boob massage was even better, at one point Ana was working my back & my ass while Anya pulled my feet up to her chest & rubbed them erotically against those heavenly soft tits. Anya also did some rimming but I could tell the 20 why / o was not going for it. Next they flipped me over for some supine fun, more cat bath tongue washing & tit massaging; it was absolute fantasy to nibble on Anya's big soft tits and then switching to Ana's perky budding nipples. All the while my hands were allowed to explore their private parts, this Ana did not resist. They both had somewhat hairy but trimmed parts. This was followed by some BBBJ from Anya while Ana let me play and nibble her perky breasts. Dank if I blew my load that time I wouldn't regret it, it really felt great.

After towel drying each other we hopped onto the bed. After some 3 way mutual touching and foreplay Anya then told me to lay prone, she then proceeded for some rimming while Ana just watched, I gestured for her to come closer & she started boob massaging my back. Flipped over to supine position & once again Anya was the one who did the BBBJ; Ana let me caress her, kissed & play with her body. All the while I am watching the action from the ceilings mirrors, imagining myself to be Genghis Khan being pleasured by 2 conquered princesses. Next Anya put slipped on the condom & asked who I wanted first; I pointed at her. First Anya rode me CG style while Ana was boob massaging my face, at one point my dick was inside Anya while grabbing hold of her soft tits, with the other hand I was fingering Ana while suckling hungrily on her perky boobs, it was quite a fantastic feeling. We followed that with mish, doggy with Anya, thoroughly enjoying her great body. By the 20 Y/ O Ana was just sitting on the side of the bed watching or looked away pretending to be busy with something.

After about 5 min I had to stop, wanted to save it for Ana. Anya pulled off the cover and wanted to put on a new one for Ana, but I stopped her, indicated that I want a BJ from Ana first. Finally, with some shyness and encouragements from her friend Ana complied. It was probably the most unskilled yet most erotic BJ I ever had; to have a shy 20 why / o hesitantly nibbling on your shaft is quite an experience. On came the cover & I laid Ana down for mish, she started to gasp as soon as I entered her, she was tight as heck and I felt guilty yet ecstatic. At first Ana turned her face sideways but I kissed her cheeks and neck repeatedly, finally she looked up at me & we did some light FK and even a little tongue action. She tasted as sweet as a 20 why / o should be. We then did CG, doggy, reverse CG, then finished mish again looking at those innocent eyes. I climaxed while we were in deep embrace and doing light FK; the older Anya also helped pushed me deeper into her for the finish. Afterwards we laid in bed for 5 min, Chatted briefly with Anya while Ana let me caress her body. It was quite satisfying to say the least.

Back at the lounge I was then offered the "complementary" massage so went with the shoulder rub to loosen up my joints. I was hoping to have another "body wash" from Mui but in the washing stations I only saw 2 older ladies so changed my mind. By then it was near midnight & I was ready to go, however a cute Viet girl approached me for massage, I requested to be in private booth instead of in the lounge. Hate to give away her name but she's about 25 why / o, long hair, slim & cute & sweet. She had magical hands & got me aroused enough that I requested for 2nd session, I had to stop her a few times fearing I might blow my load the 2nd time. I wanted to save it for later in case I got lucky with one of the massages girls or with WeChat. She told me she's relatively new gets less customers than the other established therapists, she only gets about $30 mop out of the $130 we pay for the service. I asked her if she would come to my hotel after getting off work at 7 am, she repeated deflected the answer. Finally I told her I only wanted the same thigh massage & nothing more; she said maybe & we exchanged WeChat. She is Vietnamese but spoke passable mandarin better than Cantonese, very little English. By this time it was about 1 am & I decided to check out. The butcher's bill for the night of fun was $3720 mop, this included 1 intimate bathing $130,3 thigh massages ($130 each), 1 free massage, $100 mop tip to the towel ladies (I know it's stupid), $1750 x 2 girls but minus $400 discount. All in all it was well worth it in my opinion & probably equates to what you pay for a model in the more expensive establishments.

I returned to my hotel room and out of curiosity turned on the WeChat discover people nearby function, again within 10 min got half a dozen 4-5 friend requests from females, granted it was already 1:30 on Wed morning. I decided to chat with one of them, she offered $1000 mop for 1 HR of service which is very reasonable I though. However I (and my little bro) was tired and I didn't think I am up for anything until the morning. I said what if I want a girl for the rest of the night, she said $6000 mop. I explained that I'm too tired now & just want someone to lay in the bed with me, will only do sex once in the morning. She "checked" around and said she has a friend who is willing to do it for $4000 mop but it's the last offer. So I just said forget it. Keep in mind in HK you can get a really hot young Chinese girl for the whole night for only $3000-4000 HKD. From the sound of it lots of Chinese girls now are using this WeChat option to find potential clients, probably has something to do with recent restrictions placed on saunas.

In the morning I woke up & exchanged WeChat message with the massage girl & got her to come to my room. As agreed we did only "thigh massage", she also gave a good back / shoulder / neck massage, she let me caress her legs & thighs but nothing more. I remained respectful and she didn't not seek nor offer any other services. Nonetheless it as still a good experience, her magical hands made me climaxed as I knew she would. I gave her an undisclosed sum which is probably more than she can make in a few days, she left happy and with her dignity intact.

Overall it was a great night in Macao, it's just as good as the night I spend with the hot 24 Y/ o Chinese princess in HK 2 weeks ago (will post that later). However I do hope there will be more Chinese girls available for next visits.

Holiday Spa. Just near the Holiday Inn (but definitely not part off). Used to be called the Windsor Spa. Had a major makeover since those days. I used to use Windsor when I needed to chill for a few hours in the afternoons, for a shanghai massage. It was reasonably priced and not too mangy. After the makeover, it feels smaller with of lots gold. If gold bling is your thing, then knock yourself out.

Shower area is just that. No [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url], just one pool / jacussi thing. I wonder if anyone uses it. None to scrub your bod. The lounge area a smallish and well cosy. Girls seem to offer all services, no division of labour that I could tell. Lots a chat and laughter from the group. Probably all Vietnamese.

There was no menu of services - but I did not ask. Maybe a recurring theme in macau sauna's these days (see below).

Thigh massage ain lounge chair was $260, in the room $360. The room was a regular room, and suppose depending on your company, could go anywhere.

I asked for a shanghai massage, but masseuse made no pretence at wanting to take things much further. I would take your own condoms and some cash.

I will visit again. I was there early afternoon on a Saturday. Might be different at less busy times.

FN. Always visit this place, and have got to know many of the more regular gals. Never seem to get as far as a "show time" session. Screwed in the thigh massage room, and also the masseuse. Always a satisfying experience here, but as I said, got to know a few of the ladies over the years, so YMMV.

Boss Sauna. Also a place I always visit. Again known to some of the regular employees. No menu's around. I think that they where available. Biggest change is the thigh masage appears to be off the menu, not in the room or in the lounge. Thought is that this is to comply with changing times.
My regular screw was there, and we had to just content with a foot massage. Had a shanghai massage later. Very nice massage but straight.
Early in the morning my friend approached me and asked if I would like to meet her outside, and go to here apartment. Who am I to say no. So 15 minute taxi ride to her small room deep in the town. And much fun ensued. Wonderful lady!

So much for my trip this time. Always nice to spend a few days hanging out in Sauna's and to meet old friends.

BTW, did visit Sauna One, but nothing different to report. The Japanese shower bath is no longer on offer, body scrubs on tables all round. Still, the place is plush and comfortable. You might get lucky with a thigh massage lady, but they can be on or off. Depending upon the boredom level.

I visited Holiday spa on Tuesday at around 8 pm. Chose a Thai model at 1490 HKD. They do have a menu but you have to ask for it. They had Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and 2 Russians. I would have gone with Russian girls but they didn't look the most friendliest and enthusiastic bunch. Went with the girl and at first she was real sweet and offering GFE but afterwards I think it was just an act to take up time. BBBJ was shit with constant tissue wiping. I think she and I kept the tissue industry afloat on the session alone. No CIM or anal either. Would not repeat. As always YMMV.

It's a shame Holiday spa has gone downhill. I go here every time I visit Macau but will have to try different saunas based on this experience. The one thing I like here is that the service people usually tend to leave you alone whereas at other establishments they pester you for massage, ear cleaning, etc.

Happy hunting everyone.

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2124015]I visited Holiday spa on Tuesday at around 8 pm. Chose a Thai model at 1490 HKD. They do have a menu but you have to ask for it. They had Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and 2 Russians. I would have gone with Russian girls but they didn't look the most friendliest and enthusiastic bunch. Went with the girl and at first she was real sweet and offering GFE but afterwards I think it was just an act to take up time. BBBJ was shit with constant tissue wiping. I think she and I kept the tissue industry afloat on the session alone. No CIM or anal either. Would not repeat. As always YMMV.

It's a shame Holiday spa has gone downhill. I go here every time I visit Macau but will have to try different saunas based on this experience. The one thing I like here is that the service people usually tend to leave you alone whereas at other establishments they pester you for massage, ear cleaning, etc.

Happy hunting everyone.[/QUOTE]I decided to try my luck again at Holiday spa. I lucked out and struck gold. Goes to show lingering ebbs and flows. Manager explained there was a new addition today from Venezuela but his accent was thick so I thought Russian. This girl was great and she told me I was her first customer.

She was a real performer and we connected from the start. I read many posts on this forum about guys saying girl was cumming real hard and I am always view them with skepticism. It's my turn to say the girl was wet and came hard. She did BBBJ and deep throat (awesome) plus CIM with sucking every last drop.

Afterwards we talked a lot about her travels etc. She's 23, small pocket rocket with tattoos, small tits and has a 3 yr old kid back home. She had a scar on her tummy so I'm guessing it was a see-section as her pussy was tight. We had to rush exchanging wechat accounts as lost track of time. Hope to meet again in before I leave.

Happy hunting.

Hello!

I would like to share some interesting experience during my recent visit to Macau.

I had a 3-day trip and decided to spend 2 nights at Saunas mainly because of the ridiculously high price of hotels during the new year holidays. (which does not really work out).

The first day I visited FN Sauna at around 9:30 pm. I checked the menu and was surprised by the price. Although I heard that many saunas in Macau raised price after the destructive typhoon last summer, still the 1088 MOP entrance fee if you don't do any service (minimal 2688 MOP if you want full service) is too much for me. However, as I didn't book a hotel and I was too tired to move to another sauna, I entered anyway. After a quick shower and some light dinning, I decided to take a full body spa to relax a bit first as I didn't have proper sleep for nearly 40 hours due to jet lag. The session was fine, nothing to complain about. After that, I moved to the lounge area, thinking about calling out the lineups. Then came the little girl asked for a thigh massage. As I know that it would be free if I took full service later, so why not relax a bit more. I agreed and being led to a private room. The girl turned out to be Viet around 20, not really good looking (in my standard, probably the least good looking among all the thigh massage girls that night) but with a very sweet smile. She speaks limit Chinese / English, so after some small talk, I didn't bother and started to half sleep and left my little brother enjoying her tiny soft hands. After a while, she asked me if I want a second session and finished under her hands. As I became really sleepy and started thinking of skipping the full service and directly headed to sleeping area after that. So I agreed and involved myself a bit into the action. As I was not sure about the tolerance of the masseuses here, I didn't go directly to the boobs but started with touching her hand and arm gently. Surprisingly, she seems really enjoy it and being aroused with her face turning red and continuously giving me her sweet shy smile. Shortly after, she could not resist and totally stopped working on my little brother. Seriously, this is the first time I met a girl who would be aroused by just touching her arm. So without much hesitation, I made my move and pull her towards me. She immediately hug me, tightly. After that, I was just like a mouse falling into a jar of honey, it was a totally totally magnificent GFE. We kissed, cuddled and discovered each other's body and we could never stop. The other massage girl even came to check if we were still alive. My Viet girl was really nervous about that and hide behind the door as she told me that her lipstick is totally gone and they must know we have kissed. What a lovely girl! The other girl told me that I already had 4 thigh massage sessions and one more session together with the full body spa before equals to a full service session and I can get my entrance fee waived. So why not? We ended up with one more session and 40 minutes extra, until her roommate (another Viet thigh massage girl) came to demand her to go home together. It was 3 am already and I was so tired and didn't bother to even see the lineups. Ended the day without fucking but fell asleep with joy. I left the next day afternoon and the total damage is 2358 MOP.

The second day I had a hotel room so just planned to go to one sauna and have a quick fuck. Went to Golden Sauna and happily discovered that they didn't raise the price. The lineups is not so great as usual, dominant by girls from north-east part of China and Viets. Also, most of the Chinese girls are the same as my last visit in summer. Had a nice session with a 30 ish Chinese service queen. Enjoyed the free shoulder massage and headed back to hotel. Total damage 1588 MOP.

The last day in Macau again I didn't have a hotel room so went to FN Sauna again thinking of saying goodbye to the Viet massage girl. It seems that I become famous as I entered, all the Viet girls there just looked at me and laughing, which actually made me feel great LOL. Said Hello, to my girl, having some food and we headed to the private room again. Another 5 sweet sessions until 3:30 am. At the end, I told her I will fly back home tomorrow. She asked if I want to come to her home (where she stayed with two other girls on one bed.) or go to a club to have some drinks. I struggled a bit, but thinking of I will take a long-haul flight back home the next day and this will not end up anywhere, I turned down the offer. She didn't insist and ask to meet the next time I come to Macau. As I don't know when will be the next time I visit Macau, so most probably I will never see her again. I didn't ask for her contact since it has been a long time since I ever ask contacts for P4P girls.

After I came out, the manager told me that all the sleeping areas and private rooms are full and I have to sleep in the lounge area. I think he lied to me just because I didn't choose a full service session but not able to argue. I ended up doing 5 more sessions of small massage (ear cleaning, manicure, facial spa etc.) in the lounge area in order to get my entrance fee waived. I left the next day heading home with a total damage again 2358 MOP. So in the end, I did 20 sessions of small massages at FN Sauna without a single fuck LOL.

After I came home, I started to miss the girl constantly and really regret for not asking for her contact. I even think about calling the Sauna to ask about the girl. I told my experience to one of my friend, who is also a regular sauna visitor in mainland China. He told me that it is actually a common practice for those massage girls to attract customers. He once spent the whole night (10 sessions) with a ear-cleaning girl in a sauna in Shanghai. I personally choose not to believe it. But anyway, it is a very unique experience during my so far 8 years of mongering that I will remember for a long long time and I want to share with you guys.

Have a nice weekend!

[QUOTE=Mrpatsfan;2118232] . . . imagining myself to be Genghis Khan being pleasured by 2 conquered princesses. [/QUOTE]I don't get back to ISG much these days but this is the kind of line that makes it worthwhile when I do. Thanks for a great report, and for reminding all of us of the unique pleasures of Macau.

Hi,

I have a full day in HK the week after chinese / lunar new year and was wondering if anyone knows how the sauna scene would be during that week due to everyone traveling home to celebrate. Are there less girls and business overall, or will selection still be the same as usual? Want to see if it'll be worthwhile to make a trek out there or just stick around in HK.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=AddictedToGirls;2128600]Hi,

I have a full day in HK the week after chinese / lunar new year and was wondering if anyone knows how the sauna scene would be during that week due to everyone traveling home to celebrate. Are there less girls and business overall, or will selection still be the same as usual? Want to see if it'll be worthwhile to make a trek out there or just stick around in HK. [/QUOTE]I wouldn't consider going to Macau during the week of Chinese New Years. It's much better the week before or the week after Chinese New Years. The oversized tourist crowds are not there, hotel prices are back to normal, and there a plenty of girls. HKG is the more interesting cosmopolitan city. Macau is much better for punting. IMHO. Always!

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2128882]I wouldn't consider going to Macau during the week of Chinese New Years. It's much better the week before or the week after Chinese New Years. The oversized tourist crowds are not there, hotel prices are back to normal, and there a plenty of girls. HKG is the more interesting cosmopolitan city. Macau is much better for punting. IMHO. Always![/QUOTE]AND way more expensive!

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2128882]I wouldn't consider going to Macau during the week of Chinese New Years. It's much better the week before or the week after Chinese New Years. The oversized tourist crowds are not there, hotel prices are back to normal, and there a plenty of girls. HKG is the more interesting cosmopolitan city. Macau is much better for punting. IMHO. Always![/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice! I'm in HK often and since I have a day layover coming up, wanted to see if I should stick to my usual spots or try Macau this time around. I'll save my Macau spa trip for next time then.

I've been able to meet with a sauna girl I really liked OTC, but it turned out to be NSA, just fun outside (never asked or even hinted at money, I guess she likes me! LOL). But I'm sure this is not usually the case.

What do folks think is a fair ST / LT rate? We pay between 1500-2300 MOP in the saunas, the girls get 50%? So would offering 1000-1500 be fair for ST? 1500-2000 LT?

There doesn't seem to be much of a FL scene in Macau, as most people seem to just go to the saunas or places like Darling / Hou Va. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2130207]I've been able to meet with a sauna girl I really liked OTC, but it turned out to be NSA, just fun outside (never asked or even hinted at money, I guess she likes me! LOL). But I'm sure this is not usually the case.

What do folks think is a fair ST / LT rate? We pay between 1500-2300 MOP in the saunas, the girls get 50%? So would offering 1000-1500 be fair for ST? 1500-2000 LT?

There doesn't seem to be much of a FL scene in Macau, as most people seem to just go to the saunas or places like Darling / Hou Va. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I've exchanged contacts with a stunning Viet shower girl from FN a couple years back. She met me at my hotel for two rocking night on my succeeding visit, total GFE, was very into me, would not take a dime, not even when I asked to pay for her transportation.

On the other hand, one of the service girls I met at The One with which I've had a very passionate session asked if she could come to my hotel after work. Upon complying, she came over, had two rounds, and asked for 8,000 hkd, to which I burst into laughter. We settled for less, however it is much more than what I would've paid in the sauna.

I guess YMMV.

Also, not sure about your FL scene comment. Macau is packed with them in hotels (MGM, Venetian, Wynn), discos (Cubic, Fisherman's wharf) and on the street in the alleys between Rio and Golden sauna.

Enjoy,

The.

[QUOTE=BaboyDave;2130232]I've exchanged contacts with a stunning Viet shower girl from FN a couple years back. She met me at my hotel for two rocking night on my succeeding visit, total GFE, was very into me, would not take a dime, not even when I asked to pay for her transportation.

On the other hand, one of the service girls I met at The One with which I've had a very passionate session asked if she could come to my hotel after work. Upon complying, she came over, had two rounds, and asked for 8,000 hkd, to which I burst into laughter. We settled for less, however it is much more than what I would've paid in the sauna.

I guess YMMV.

Also, not sure about your FL scene comment. Macau is packed with them in hotels (MGM, Venetian, Wynn), discos (Cubic, Fisherman's wharf) and on the street in the alleys between Rio and Golden sauna.

Enjoy,

The.[/QUOTE]

So curious what other senior members here think-- what would be an appropriate amount to offer as "taxi money" for a sauna girl who came over to the hotel room for ST? (let's say 1 shot). I'm thinking maybe 1000HKD? 1200 max?

As for FLs, I never considered it because of all the quality non-FL options in the saunas, fishbowls, etc. Or do you mean wechat girls, or the pimps / mms that whisper to you as you walk around the casino? I tried wechat girls a while back and it was super hit or miss. Guaranteed to be bait and switch, 99% likely to be rushed or upsell.

Is it different in the clubs / venues? I did go to the club at Cubic with friends before, but didn't see any obvious signs of FLs. Are they congregated anywhere in particular? I did see some smoking hotties there, but they all seemed to be with groups of friends.

Visited Rio a while back and the lineup was 15-20 girls strong with around 3-4 japanese ones, not that I am able to tell the difference. I had a session with this girl named Sasha. IDK whether she still works there or not. All the usual services were on offer. B2B, rimming, which I experienced for the first time, hot and cold CBJ. No DFK though even though I tried to convince her. FS in all the usual positions and she finished me with a lengthy HJ. One thing which I did not like at all was that in comparison to the rich interiors of the public areas of the sauna, the room itself was quite small and dreary especially if you compare it to soapies in Bkk and for me it was a clear letdown. OTOH, the main advantages over Bkk soapies are that, owing to the different setup, you can relax for a considerable period of time without being bothered, have unlimited food and get a variety of massages, while enjoying your food and drinks, before actually sessioning with any particular girl from the lineup. Overall, the staff was courteous barring this one male staff member, who was in a little too much hurry to have me choose a girl. However, I did not let this perturb me and took my own time. One thing, which I remember in particular, was when I was in the large jacuzzi / pool and all the girls assembled for the lineup in their skimpy dresses with their shapely rears pointing at me, it was quite a sight to behold and I enjoyed every minute of it. Overall, it was a different experience. But have to say that purely from a hobbying perspective, I would not recommend Macau as there are many better options available. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=AnonMous;2141716]Visited Rio a while back and the lineup was 15-20 girls strong with around 3-4 japanese ones, not that I am able to tell the difference. I had a session with this girl named Sasha. IDK whether she still works there or not. All the usual services were on offer. B2B, rimming, which I experienced for the first time, hot and cold CBJ. No DFK though even though I tried to convince her. FS in all the usual positions and she finished me with a lengthy HJ.[/QUOTE]Rio is the most expensive sauna in Macau and they offer bad service like this? CBJ, no FK, finish with HJ. Too bad!

[QUOTE=AnonMous;2141716] you can relax for a considerable period of time without being bothered[/QUOTE]Lucky you that no one bothered you. I been once in Macau at East Spa and lounge staff bothered me every minute offering me massage and everythings, they drive me crazy it was impossible to realx and enjoy the experience, they continued to bother me even while I ate.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2141736]Rio is the most expensive sauna in Macau and they offer bad service like this? CBJ, no FK, finish with HJ. Too bad!

Lucky you that no one bothered you. I been once in Macau at East Spa and lounge staff bothered me every minute offering me massage and everythings, they drive me crazy it was impossible to realx and enjoy the experience, they continued to bother me even while I ate.[/QUOTE]Finish with HJ was my choice. About OWO, IDK whether it would have been offered or not as didn't request. No DFK was definitely a downer. But this is invariably so in all high end soapies in Bkk also. Always have a hard time convincing the girls there for DFK and not without promises of a decent tip. However, no one really bothered me and I was able to enjoy my chicken and cola without any problem while watching gibberish on tv that I didn't understand. LOL.

Heard the new version of the racetrack is the walk from the parisian to venetian. All the WGs are there.

[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;2145049]Heard the new version of the racetrack is the walk from the parisian to venetian. All the WGs are there.[/QUOTE]To hey Paul.

Hey paul don't believe everything that you hear I was there last week the walk way got many tourist and families, the security guard will not allow WG working even late at night most of the warking girl are now on the st outside the Venetian late at night.

Fast Eddie 48.

Gents,

I am to Macau in two weeks. Will be there mid week (low period). Wanted to get your thoughts on what I should do, as I have RIFF and have the questions.

Coming from BKK / SG, I finding the prices to be quite high compared to what I can get locally. From what I have read. Its seems in Macau the women are much hotter. And I would love to try some Chinese or Jap / Kor talent. However, I can probably get same quality if I paid at Brix (SG) or in Hong Kong. Also, and if I don't get a GFE experience, I will be very upset to spend $300 USD+ or more for quick shag.

Also, I am not the type of person who wants to spend 4-6 hours in a sauna (eating, relaxing, killing times). Instead, I rather to prefer a nice shower, good legit massage, HJ / BJ / FS and then be on my way after 2 hours. Great if there is GFE throughout.

But I am curious to experience the Macau sauna scene, as I have read so much about it.

Do you reckon I would be better at a sauna (was thinking FN, since its a bit cheaper than Rio) or check out a higher-end fishbowl establishment.

Also, at a place like FN. How long are the sauna thigh massages? Is it automatic handjob, or is that extra money? Am I able to touch girls.

Thank and I will make sure to report back.

On a different note, I am excited to see hot Chinese girls (legit) walking around during the day. Any casinos that have best looking girls?

U1.

[QUOTE=TravelLucid;2123460]Holiday Spa. ........
FN. Always visit this place, and have got to know many of the more regular gals. Never seem to g..........

Boss Sauna. Also a place I always visit. Again known to some of the regular employees. No menu's around. I think that they where available. Biggest change is the thigh masage appears to be off the menu, not in the room or in the lounge. Thought is that this is to comply with changing times.
My regular screw was there, and we had to just content with a foot massage. Had a shanghai massage later. Very nice massage but straight.
Early in the morning my friend approached me and asked if I would like to meet her outside, and go to here apartment. Who am I to say no. So 15 minute taxi ride to her small room deep in the town. And much fun ensued. Wonderful lady!

.........[/QUOTE]Lucid, thanks for the summary. Very nice reminder for my upcoming visit to Macau this week.

[QUOTE=United1;2145116]Gents,

I am to Macau in two weeks. Will be there mid week (low period). Wanted to get your thoughts on what I should do, as I have RIFF and have the questions.

Coming from BKK / SG, I finding the prices to be quite high compared to what I can get locally. From what I have read. Its seems in Macau the women are much hotter. And I would love to try some Chinese or Jap / Kor talent. However, I can probably get same quality if I paid at Brix (SG) or in Hong Kong. Also, and if I don't get a GFE experience, I will be very upset to spend $300 USD+ or more for quick shag.

Also, I am not the type of person who wants to spend 4-6 hours in a sauna (eating, relaxing, killing times). Instead, I rather to prefer a nice shower, good legit massage, HJ / BJ / FS and then be on my way after 2 hours. Great if there is GFE throughout.

But I am curious to experience the Macau sauna scene, as I have read so much about it.

Do you reckon I would be better at a sauna (was thinking FN, since its a bit cheaper than Rio) or check out a higher-end fishbowl establishment.

Also, at a place like FN. How long are the sauna thigh massages? Is it automatic handjob, or is that extra money? Am I able to touch girls.

Thank and I will make sure to report back.

On a different note, I am excited to see hot Chinese girls (legit) walking around during the day. Any casinos that have best looking girls?

U1.[/QUOTE]I've been to FN but not Rio. I steer clear of Chinese girls as I've always had mechanical or so-so service from them. The Jap / Korean are not legit from those countries, at least that's what I've seen. Others may correct me if I'm wrong, but the only fishbowl establishment I know of is Darling at Masters Hotel and that's not high end such as Rio.

I've always hit Holiday Spa each time I go to Macau and also FN. I've never gone for the thigh massage as it's not my thing so can't answer you on that. If you get model types at Holiday Spa then you're more than likely to get GFE experience. If you're lucky enough to see a girl working on her first day then choose her. In my experience she is more likely to put in extra effort as managers will ask how she performed. They've got different pricing with cheaper rates before 5 pm. The higher quality show up at 5 pm when rates go up and punters start to show. Call me crazy but I always go for the foreigners from South America or Russia. I've always had quality service from them.

In my experience at FN the extra service girls keep hassling me for a massage or other service. I understand they need to make coin but it can be annoying at times.

I don't think you'll see an abundance of hot Chinese girls walking around the casino, unless they're pros. You probably need to head to the city center where the shops are or at a nightclub at the wharf. Venetian is the biggest casino so that's the best chance to see more Chinese girls. A word of warning, if you're Asian then you'll be asked all the time if you want to exchange / borrow money or have a working girl. The casino staff keep kicking them out or locking them up but like weeds more pop up.

Good luck.

You are highly unlikely to find a legit Japanese girl in Macao, at least at any place open to non mandarin speakers and for anything affordable.

Honestly coming BKK / SG Macao is really a different animal. There is essentially no local scene since there aren't any locals. As someone who prefers GFE as well I can tell you the best advice is prepare to be dissapointed. It really is hit and miss as far as that goes. I can say that generally I have had better experiences with the viet girls or the lower end PRC girls with GFE. That doesn't mean I haven't found it in the models but percentage wise have done better with the those two subsets. Also Darling1 at the masters hotel has delivered the best success rate in terms of GFE for me of both PRC and Viet girls. In fact 2 of the viet girls from there I am still in contact with even though they left and went back to vietnam. The other advantage to Darling is you have as much time as you need to choose a girl. Unless FN started doing lineups out in the main area again, I really dislike the haphazard assembly they started doing at the end of the hallway, it really took away from the VIP experience. However FN is like 20% cheaper than RIO. At RIO you can watch a couple lineups before choosing so gives you more flexibility.

Here is what I would suggest. If you want earlier than 8 the options are Darling 1 or takeout from houva to your hotel (the incall rooms are not desirable from what I hear). And Darling 1 should absolutely be 1 of your stops. I would then try FN, if you are happy with what's available stick to FN, if you want to see what another 20% gets you go to Rio and check it out. That is a good intro tour to Macao. Sure there are other variations and like most places for P4 P these days there are highs and lows, nothing is guaranteed consistent anymore.

[QUOTE=United1;2145116]Gents,

I am to Macau in two weeks. Will be there mid week (low period). Wanted to get your thoughts on what I should do, as I have RIFF and have the questions.

Coming from BKK / SG, I finding the prices to be quite high compared to what I can get locally. From what I have read. Its seems in Macau the women are much hotter. And I would love to try some Chinese or Jap / Kor talent. However, I can probably get same quality if I paid at Brix (SG) or in Hong Kong. Also, and if I don't get a GFE experience, I will be very upset to spend $300 USD+ or more for quick shag.

Also, I am not the type of person who wants to spend 4-6 hours in a sauna (eating, relaxing, killing times). Instead, I rather to prefer a nice shower, good legit massage, HJ / BJ / FS and then be on my way after 2 hours. Great if there is GFE throughout.

But I am curious to experience the Macau sauna scene, as I have read so much about it.

Do you reckon I would be better at a sauna (was thinking FN, since its a bit cheaper than Rio) or check out a higher-end fishbowl establishment.

Also, at a place like FN. How long are the sauna thigh massages? Is it automatic handjob, or is that extra money? Am I able to touch girls.

Thank and I will make sure to report back.

On a different note, I am excited to see hot Chinese girls (legit) walking around during the day. Any casinos that have best looking girls?

U1.[/QUOTE]

Thanks MSam and BC13 for answering my questions. Much appreciation.

I went to FN on Thurs around 3 pm. First of all, the address on google is a bit off I reckon, as its around the corner on the 'main' street, but overall easy to find. The entrance looked nice, so felt very safe. I was greeted by a Filipino attendant. He pointed to the price list and said minimum for FS was approx 1500 MOP, and I wouldn't be able to pick out the girls. The higher quality girls start at approx 2500 MOP (forgetting the exact amounts), but they usually don't come until 7 pm. There were only 4 Viet girls at the time. Based on the prices and my options, I decided to leave. The Filipino also recommended come later, making me think the existing girls were not too attractive.

Coming from SIN / BKK, I can get similar quality for much much cheaper. Yeah, doesn't include the spa services, and I probably won't find any Chinese / NAsia models, but for my limited budget. Didn't make sense to play at FN.

On a side note, I was there in Macau on the weekdays and there wasn't much regular local hot girls to look at. I heard all the Chinese hotties come on the weekends. A few scattered Russian pros here and there, but nothing to look at. Overall, quite disappointed with Macau.

A local guy I met said that on the outskirts of city, they have a few walk up apartments similar to Hong Kong, but not foreigner friendly. Those would have been interesting to see, as I am a fan in HK.

2 weeks ago I repeated my visit at Boss Sauna. Arrival around 4:00 pm.

No explanation at the entrance, directly pointed to the changing area. Then shower, sauna, cold water pool.

Opted then for a body scrub. Nice vietnamese girl, around 20, short and nice rounds. No special services, but excellent scrub.

Next step into the lounge area. They offered food and drinks, what I declined. Requested girl, team explained options (standard, Chinese, model). I choosed standard. Line up was in the room, more in 37 Dundas style. 3 girls: 1 Vietnamese, 2 Indonesian. The Vietnamese one was a bit older (maybe 30-35 yo), but nice rack and nice smile. So I choosed her.

Standard session: Shower, BBBJ at bed, etc. , engaged sex, hugging, kissing.

They offered a tigh massage afterwards in another room (included in the price), but I was done and left the place happy after 2,5 hrs towards HKIA.

Overall damage 1. 200 MOP.

[QUOTE=United1;2151031]Thanks MSam and BC13 for answering my questions. Much appreciation.

I went to FN on Thurs around 3 pm. First of all, the address on google is a bit off I reckon, as its around the corner on the 'main' street, but overall easy to find. The entrance looked nice, so felt very safe. I was greeted by a Filipino attendant. He pointed to the price list and said minimum for FS was approx 1500 MOP, and I wouldn't be able to pick out the girls. The higher quality girls start at approx 2500 MOP (forgetting the exact amounts), but they usually don't come until 7 pm. There were only 4 Viet girls at the time. Based on the prices and my options, I decided to leave. The Filipino also recommended come later, making me think the existing girls were not too attractive.

Coming from SIN / BKK, I can get similar quality for much much cheaper. Yeah, doesn't include the spa services, and I probably won't find any Chinese / NAsia models, but for my limited budget. Didn't make sense to play at FN.

On a side note, I was there in Macau on the weekdays and there wasn't much regular local hot girls to look at. I heard all the Chinese hotties come on the weekends. A few scattered Russian pros here and there, but nothing to look at. Overall, quite disappointed with Macau.

A local guy I met said that on the outskirts of city, they have a few walk up apartments similar to Hong Kong, but not foreigner friendly. Those would have been interesting to see, as I am a fan in HK.[/QUOTE]Macau is a stop over hub for other Asian destinations. It has its highs (model Chinese girls w / o going into China, English accessibility, etc) and lows (expensive) like other places.

If you are happy with the quality in BKK and patts, then there is no need to go to Macau.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2145071]To hey Paul.

Hey paul don't believe everything that you hear I was there last week the walk way got many tourist and families, the security guard will not allow WG working even late at night most of the warking girl are now on the st outside the Venetian late at night.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up.

Got a chance to go to HK for business a couple of weeks ago. Went to Macau for the weekend and took a cab to Darling 2 after dinner with the clients. Had spent some time at Darling 1 in previous trip, but never been to Darling 2. Darling 2 is in a more residential area compare to Darling 1. The cab driver dropped me off right in front of this 'massage' place. Walked in, no other monger was in the lounge area, so I was taking my time to look at the beauties in the fish bowl. If you are not familiar with Darling 2, it's specialized in MFF threesome, but of course you can just pick one girl if you are not into threesome. Unlike Darling 1, all girls were Vietnamese here at Darling 2. I picked two girls with big tits (don't remember their names or number), paid about HKD $ 1800 (pussies are cheap in Asia compared to the US), they held my hands and we went up to our room.

The decor was more run down compared to other places. After a lady brought us drinks, the fun began. Both girls stripped, disappointed that their tits were small actually (thanks to the illusion of the heavily padded bras), one girl went to prepare for the bathtub and the other girl helped stripped me down and gave me a little massage on the circular bed. Tried to chat with the girl but she didn't speak much English, so I just let her do her thing. The girls didn't talk much to me but they talked too much to each other in Vietnamese which was a turn off. Bathtub filled, the girls led me into it. One girl sit in the tub, I laid on top of her and the other girl washed me thoroughly from head to toes with special attention to junior. Then the girl on top soaped herself up and slide up and down on me. Very sensual. Tried to DFK this girl but she just gave me a light kiss and turned her head away (never had a girl who liked to make out in Macau). Junior was rock hard, one of the girl signaled me to sit on the edge of the bathtub to give me a blow job, the other girl just sucked on my nips. I told them to blow me at the same time, I don't know if they understood or not, they just wouldn't blow me at the same time. Disappointment. The girl who blew me kept spitting when she blew me as if I was dirty. Another disappointment. Didn't last long and busted my nut on the girl's chest. The girls washed me again and we went back to the bed for a break.

The girls told me to laid down on my stomach and gave me another massage. They let me roam around their bodies a little bit when I was being massaged, not much could be grabbed in this position anyway. Flipped, junior was hard again, it's hot to look at the mirror on the ceiling above the bed when one of the girls sucked on my cock. Tried to rubbed the other girl's pussy but she pushed my hand away. Told her to sit on my face so that I could eat her pussy. Again, refused! These girls were no fun! After a while, put on my own condom and one of the girl asked if she could use of lube. I was like if she let me play and eat her pussy, she wouldn't need lube at all. OK, whatever and let one of the girl fuck me cowgirl. Again, tried to kiss the girls, but apparently they were not into kissing. The other girl just laid next to us, rubbed and kissed my chest. The girls wouldn't touch each other. Let the girl rode me for a while, pulled out, changed condom and wanted to fuck the other girl. Tried to eat the girl's pussy but wouldn't let me, said she was too shy. I gave up on them. Spread her legs and went to town in mish until I cum.

Rested a little bit and waited to leave even though there's still some time left. They washed me again, dried and put on my shirt and left. The girls kept asking for tips but I said no. These girls were no fun! Not PSE as I imagined, wouldn't entertain me, everything was mechanical and wanted tips. This threesome disappointed me again. Had a few threesome elsewhere but always a disappointment! May be I should give up on fantasizing a PSE threesome that I watched from porn. I think threesome girls need to be bisexual to be more fun. Will try again when I go on vacation in Thailand in a couple of months.

Still suffering from jet lag, woke up super early and felt the need to satisfy my sexual urge. After a disappointing experience at Darling 2, decided to go to Darling 1 to take a look. Darling 1 never disappoint me, this time is not an exception!

At 5 am, took a cab from the Galaxy to Darling 1. Because it's early, there were only 15 girls working, about 5 Thai, 5 Chinese and 5 Vietnamese girls. Asked the manager which girl liked to DFK and provided good service. He recommended two girls: both were Vietnamese (had Thai girls in Macau in previously trip, not every enthusiastic and Chinese is not my cup of tea because they never shave their pussies, prefer someone who's at least trimmed), chose the one who smiled at me (again don't remember name or number). Paid upfront before we went to our room. Damage was about HKD $1800. It's about the same price as Darling 2 but only getting one girl, but it's worth it! Will never go to Darling 2 again! Same process, a lady brought us tea and ice to the room, tipped her and the fun began. We both stripped off and and my girl went fill up the bathtub. She gave me a massage while the tub was being filled. She then led me to the bath area, took a shower together before we went into the tub. This girl was a little shy, but trainable, with plenty of kissing in the shower. Grabbed her pussy from behind and she didn't resist. We went into the tub, soaked for a while and she started sliding her hot body on me (big tits always good for body sliding). Willy was hard and I sat on the special seat within the bathtub and my girl started giving me a blow job. This girl certainly knew what she was doing with plenty of eye contact, some deep throat and ball sucking. Almost blew my load but decided to hold on for the main course. Rinsed and dried and went back to the bed.

As I laid on the bed, I saw the signature mirror above the bed again! The view of my Viet girl crawled toward me and started sucking my cock from the mirror was a nice touch. Turned her over, pussy facing me and I started eating her out. She appeared to enjoy it and started to get wet. I got up, got her laid on her back, and I ate her some more. Many girls in Macau didn't allow fingering but this girl did. She almost suffocated me when she pulled my head too close to her pussy. Moved back up to DFK with this girl. My girl reached for a condom but I always brought my own. She put it on me with her mouth and I started pumping her mish. Didn't last long at all as this girl was so hot. Should have blow a load in the bathtub, wait for willy to recover and dumb another load, but heard about the one shot only policy, so decided to wait. Didn't think she cum with penetration but sure she cum when I ate her pussy. She slept in my arms for a while before the phone rang. Showered again, tipped her HKD $200 and left. She held my hand until I reached the elevator and kissed me goodbye. Darling 1 never disappoint.

Does anybody know how to find a girl who can do CIM and allows digit in Darling 1 or other saunas? Thanks.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2160919]Does anybody know how to find a girl who can do CIM and allows digit in Darling 1 or other saunas? Thanks.[/QUOTE]All of the providers I chose in Darling1 (about 10 visits) allowed CIM.

Great reports Gladiator69. I enjoyed reading them.

[QUOTE=Gladiator69;2159731]Went to Macau for the weekend and took a cab to Darling 2 after dinner with the clients. Walked in, no other monger was in the lounge area, so I was taking my time to look at the beauties in the fish bowl. If you are not familiar with Darling 2, it's specialized in MFF threesome, but of course you can just pick one girl if you are not into threesome. Unlike Darling 1, all girls were Vietnamese here at Darling 2. I picked two girls with big tits (don't remember their names or number), paid about HKD $ 1800 (pussies are cheap in Asia compared to the US), they held my hands and we went up to our room.

The decor was more run down compared to other places.

After a lady brought us drinks, the fun began. Both girls stripped,
Rested a little bit and waited to leave even though there's still some time left. They washed me again, dried and put on my shirt and left. The girls kept asking for tips but I said no. These girls were no fun! Not PSE as I imagined, wouldn't entertain me, everything was mechanical and wanted tips. This threesome disappointed me again. Had a few threesome elsewhere but always a disappointment! May be I should give up on fantasizing a PSE threesome that I watched from porn. I think threesome girls need to be bisexual to be more fun. Will try again when I go on vacation in Thailand in a couple of months.[/QUOTE]I have found threesomes are usually a disappointment one way or another in the brothel setting. Even in places dedicated to threesomes like Devils Den in Pattaya or as you illustrate Darling 2 in Macau.

For great threesomes I have found nothing compares to or has a higher success rate than taking your time & letting something happen naturally. For example; meeting a girl in a bar, getting to know her first solo, and then later over subsequent bar visits getting introduced to her girlfriends and waiting for the girls to mutually suggest I barfine them both.

Of course, bisexual girls are best for threesomes, but this is a very rare find in Thailand, Indonesia, or the PI. The more likely happy scenario is having 2 girls (friends) that work well together in servicing the customer active 2 on 1 style. For example, with one girl sitting on my face while the other is riding my dick cowgirl. The worst threesome scenario and the one to be avoided IMHO is the successive threesome. For example, when the girls are too shy to engage at the same time so the 2nd girl waits on the balcony or in the bathroom while you shag the 1st girl solo and then after the 1st shot the girls rotate and you shag the 2nd girl solo.

You can try your threesome luck out in Thailand, but if you try to rush into it, I predict that you will most likely end up less than completely satisfied or have to settle for the 3rd scenario. Incidentally, the best threesomes I have had were in Manila with my 2 favorite repeat Burgos bar girls. I have known these girls for 3 years now and we have lots of fun together. I have also had great threesomes in BKK, but none of those match the wildness of my 2 favorite Pinays.

[QUOTE=ExcellentSauna(EmperorGrandHotel);2160167]After a disappointing experience at Darling 2, decided to go to Darling 1 to take a look. Darling 1 never disappoint me, this time is not an exception!.[/QUOTE]No Macau Sauna is 100% guaranteed great times / great girl every time. Darling 1 is pretty good in my experiences. I have had some great sessions here, but I have also had a couple of ho hum sessions here as well. My Familia Nobre experiences are ususally of similar high quality, but I have had a couple of lack lusters in FN too. Rio & East Spa - same same. The main differentiation between Rio, East, FN, & Darling 1 is price, nationalities, and the overall girl quality with Rio offering the highest quality looking girls, Rio & East being the most expensive, Rio being poshest, FN offering the most varied of nationality selection, and FN & Darling 1 having the highest ratio of great sessions over mediocre sessions in my experience, but I have had truly memorable and outstanding sessions in all 4 places and a few let downs in all 4 as well.

This is why on my typical 5-night visits to Macau, I like to hit 3 of these 4 saunas plus one other that I have not been to before and on my last night in town I like to go back and visit my favorite place of the week for the grand farewell. So on my last visit to Macau, my Darling 1 Chinese model was my favorite girl of the week and my Malaysian girl from Excellent Sauna (Emperor Grand Hotel) was my 2nd favorite girl of the week. FN was the big disappointment of my last trip. due to the fact that my sexy little Vietnamese FN girl was not very passionate in bed. But I plan to go back to FN on my next trip anyway. Like I said above, no Macau Sauna is 100% guaranteed great times / great girl every time. There is always an element of uncertainty in this game.

I have been to both Rio and FN and though Rio facilities are better and nicer, I still prefer FN except for the lounge area where I prefer the rows of chairs seems a bit more private vs at FN. The massage girls at FN are a bit pushy but after telling them no a few extra times they stop bothering you. The one tight massage I had the girl was very nice, I think she wanted to come back to the hotel with me but I didn't get the hint at the time so there's always next time.

Also my experience with 2 PRC girls at FN have been some of the best experiences for me so I always prefer PRC.

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2146020]I've been to FN but not Rio. I steer clear of Chinese girls as I've always had mechanical or so-so service from them. The Jap / Korean are not legit from those countries, at least that's what I've seen. Others may correct me if I'm wrong, but the only fishbowl establishment I know of is Darling at Masters Hotel and that's not high end such as Rio.

I've always hit Holiday Spa each time I go to Macau and also FN. I've never gone for the thigh massage as it's not my thing so can't answer you on that. If you get model types at Holiday Spa then you're more than likely to get GFE experience. If you're lucky enough to see a girl working on her first day then choose her. In my experience she is more likely to put in extra effort as managers will ask how she performed. They've got different pricing with cheaper rates before 5 pm. The higher quality show up at 5 pm when rates go up and punters start to show. Call me crazy but I always go for the foreigners from South America or Russia. I've always had quality service from them..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CockaSaurus;2161076] I always prefer PRC.[/QUOTE]Me too. The Chinese girls are why I visit Macau. Since the demise of ChangPing where else can you go to find them in such high quality and quantity? Geylang is an ok Chinese hunting ground too, but not as good as Macau.

But everyone is entitled to their preferences. There are plenty of sexy Viet girls in Macau as well to satisfy that particular craving.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2160950] great threesomes I have found nothing compares to or has a higher success rate than taking your time & letting something happen naturally. For example; meeting a girl in a bar, getting to know her first solo, and then later over subsequent bar visits getting introduced to her girlfriends and waiting for the girls to mutually suggest I barfine them both.

Of course, bisexual girls are best for threesomes, but this is a very rare find in Thailand, Indonesia, or the PI. The more likely happy scenario is having 2 girls (friends) that work well together in servicing the customer active 2 on 1 style. For example, with one girl sitting on my face while the other is riding my dick cowgirl. The worst threesome scenario and the one to be avoided IMHO is the successive threesome. For example, when the girls are too shy to engage at the same time so the 2nd girl waits on the balcony or in the bathroom while you shag the 1st girl solo and then after the 1st shot the girls rotate and you shag the 2nd girl solo.[/QUOTE]That was exactly what happened when I went to Poseidon in BKK a couple of years ago, got two girls up in the room, one of them didn't even get into the bathtub with the other lady and I. Like you said, it takes time to develop chemistry.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2160950]You can try your threesome luck out in Thailand, but if you try to rush into it, I predict that you will most likely end up less than completely satisfied or have to settle for the 3rd scenario. Incidentally, the best threesomes I have had were in Manila with my 2 favorite repeat Burgos bar girls. I have known these girls for 3 years now and we have lots of fun together. I have also had great threesomes in BKK, but none of those match the wildness of my 2 favorite Pinays.[/QUOTE]In terms of threesome, will take it slow in BKK and see how things go. Don't have much expectation though.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2160950]No Macau Sauna is 100% guaranteed great times / great girl every time. Darling 1 is pretty good in my experiences. I have had some great sessions here, but I have also had a couple of ho hum sessions here as well. My Familia Nobre experiences are ususally of similar high quality, but I have had a couple of lack lusters in FN too. Rio & East Spa - same same. The main differentiation between Rio, East, FN, & Darling 1 is price, nationalities, and the overall girl quality with Rio offering the highest quality looking girls, Rio & East being the most expensive, Rio being poshest, FN offering the most varied of nationality selection, and FN & Darling 1 having the highest ratio of great sessions over mediocre sessions in my experience, but I have had truly memorable and outstanding sessions in all 4 places and a few let downs in all 4 as well.[/QUOTE]Natty is absolutely right, there's no guarantee that Mr. Happy leaves happy every time in any venue. Especially, when I was a newbie (still learning from everyone here) who used to focus on looks rather than a complete package including looks, body and attitude. We all learn from our mistakes.

OK, it has been three and a half years since I was in Macau now. I used to go to Macau 3-4 times a year for 3-4 years, and have been to 9 different saunas like 18, Emperor, Rio, Sanado (closed now), East Spa, Familia Nobre, Golden Sauna, Excellent Sauna and Victoria Sauna. Plus the bowls like D1, D2 and Hou Va. And additional strip clubs and other things like the racetrack and some smaller bars with prostitutes.

But how is the current pricing at the main saunas now? I am thinking of 18, Emperor, FN, East Spa and now also East Castle Spa. The price for a room session. Entry fees. And for the thigh massages / body scrub etc.

I didn't like Rio since most girls there were either too tall or had had facial surgery messing up their natural looks. Is it still like this there?

[QUOTE=BaboyDave;2160929]All of the providers I chose in Darling1 (about 10 visits) allowed CIM.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for your reply. Are those providers Chinese girls? Did you tell them what you wanted before you went to the rooms with them?

You remember Macau during it's golden years. When comparing to now it's horrible. Less girls, higher prices, more attitude, worse service. I don't recommend Macau anymore. Better off going to Japan, Kuala Lumpur, Indonesia, Thailand, etc. Yes. Japan is now on par for prices to Macau. It's that bad.

I took a friend a tour of the Macau saunas and I was disgusted that I wasted his time. This was back in December.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2162179]OK, it has been three and a half years since I was in Macau now. I used to go to Macau 3-4 times a year for 3-4 years, and have been to 9 different saunas like 18, Emperor, Rio, Sanado (closed now), East Spa, Familia Nobre, Golden Sauna, Excellent Sauna and Victoria Sauna. Plus the bowls like D1, D2 and Hou Va. And additional strip clubs and other things like the racetrack and some smaller bars with prostitutes.

But how is the current pricing at the main saunas now? I am thinking of 18, Emperor, FN, East Spa and now also East Castle Spa. The price for a room session. Entry fees. And for the thigh massages / body scrub etc.

I didn't like Rio since most girls there were either too tall or had had facial surgery messing up their natural looks. Is it still like this there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2162489]You remember Macau during it's golden years. When comparing to now it's horrible. Less girls, higher prices, more attitude, worse service. I don't recommend Macau anymore. Better off going to Japan, Kuala Lumpur, Indonesia, Thailand, etc. Yes. Japan is now on par for prices to Macau. It's that bad.

I took a friend a tour of the Macau saunas and I was disgusted that I wasted his time. This was back in December.[/QUOTE]I don't know if I was there during its golden years. I heard back then that it was even better before 2008 when a session cost 800 mop, and even better than that before the restriction was lifted (was that in 2002?) when all the girls were from Macau itself. But in 2011-2014 it was still pretty good I felt. But in 2014 I did feel the lineups had started to deteriorate. Especially at 18 sauna perhaps. Which had by far the best variety in 2011-2013.

So how bad are the prices now?

I kind of felt like the main problem with some of the best Macau saunas was the lack of seats. Sanado and East Spa being the worst. So with this few seats the price hikes were impossible to stop. At least sanado was closed which had the fewest seats. But then again it probably had by far the lowest rent also, and at one point was the best value for money also. Maybe east castle spa had more seats. At the main group's saunas (18/ EMP / Rio) who also bought golden at one point I believe, there were still a lack of seats on some days. And golden at least when I was there had a terrible lineup. Victoria and Excellent also had useless lineups. So there were not that many real competitors, and with Macau being the only legal place for mongering in China, the bottleneck mechanics got crazy. It seemed a bit strange that they didn't just try to recruit more optics from Changping when the crackdown there happened. That could have been a goldmine for the Macau scene.

I'm of Asian descent so I get mistaken of being Chinese and then I have to go through the whole routine of explaining I don't speak Mandarin. Gets in the way of chemistry with PRC girls. Having lived in Thailand I can get along well with a few phrases of Thai.

Bringing the girls back to your hotel seems like a winner but I prefer to "dine out" so to speak.

[QUOTE=CockaSaurus;2161076]I have been to both Rio and FN and though Rio facilities are better and nicer, I still prefer FN except for the lounge area where I prefer the rows of chairs seems a bit more private vs at FN. The massage girls at FN are a bit pushy but after telling them no a few extra times they stop bothering you. The one tight massage I had the girl was very nice, I think she wanted to come back to the hotel with me but I didn't get the hint at the time so there's always next time.

Also my experience with 2 PRC girls at FN have been some of the best experiences for me so I always prefer PRC.[/QUOTE]

A quick search of this thread revealed that quite a few of you pay with credit cards. Is credit card payment available at all / most of the good saunas in Macau? Can the whole experience be covered by credit card or should I make sure to have cash on hand for tips and any other incidentals?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DimndJoe;2168971]A quick search of this thread revealed that quite a few of you pay with credit cards. Is credit card payment available at all / most of the good saunas in Macau? Can the whole experience be covered by credit card or should I make sure to have cash on hand for tips and any other incidentals?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]CC's are accepted in all the Saunas I have been to. The tab is all inclusive covering all services and incidentals incurred. You pay for everything at the front desk before you are allowed to depart the establishment. Management is very efficient. I suggest that you leave all your valuables in the locker provided for you. I make one exception with my cell phone which I bring along with me into the lounge / sauna area in order to exchange WeChat profile information with my girl in case I like her and want to hook up with her again. It is a slight pain in the ass to have it. Some suana robes do not have pockets. You can bring tip money in with you too if you have a mind to although I have never tipped the girls cash in a sauna. There is no need.

Does FN have a website? How much is the entry fee of FN?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2169433]CC's are accepted in all the Saunas I have been to. The tab is all inclusive covering all services and incidentals incurred. You pay for everything at the front desk before you are allowed to depart the establishment. Management is very efficient. I suggest that you leave all your valuables in the locker provided for you. I make one exception with my cell phone which I bring along with me into the lounge / sauna area in order to exchange WeChat profile information with my girl in case I like her and want to hook up with her again. It is a slight pain in the ass to have it. Some suana robes do not have pockets. You can bring tip money in with you too if you have a mind to although I have never tipped the girls cash in a sauna. There is no need.[/QUOTE]Some might add a percentage to the bill in case of credit card payment. Like 3%. It is a bad practice occurring here and there in the world. Sometime allowed by local regulations.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2169907]Does FN have a website? How much is the entry fee of FN?[/QUOTE]The entry fee is around 200 - 300 HKD. But if you decide to get full service, they waive the entry fee. I'm not sure if just getting a thigh massage or other misc. Service will be the same.

I don't think they have a website. You can google image search for menu.

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2170183]The entry fee is around 200 - 300 HKD. But if you decide to get full service, they waive the entry fee. I'm not sure if just getting a thigh massage or other misc. Service will be the same.

I don't think they have a website. You can google image search for menu.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. I can not make up my mind whether or not I will go for full service before I see the lineup. I probably will pay the entry fee when I get in this place. The entry fee will cover bath, sauna, food, soft drinks and a locker. Am I right? Do they also give customer a small money locker?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2170739]Thank you for your reply. I can not make up my mind whether or not I will go for full service before I see the lineup. I probably will pay the entry fee when I get in this place. The entry fee will cover bath, sauna, food, soft drinks and a locker. Am I right? Do they also give customer a small money locker?[/QUOTE]When you enter they give you a wristband with a wireless key. It opens a locker where you put all belongings including cash. I've put in all my stuff with plenty of cash and had no problems whatsoever. To open the locker attendant uses his master key and you need to use yours. The wristband will have a number that corresponds to the locker number and also represents your 'account'. When you rack up charges through massages, FS, etc. The service provider will call management quoting it.

Entry fee covers what you mentioned. However I would steer clear of food items that arent usually ordered. You pay for all charges on your way out. FN will accept credit card but others may not.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=DimndJoe;2168971]A quick search of this thread revealed that quite a few of you pay with credit cards. Is credit card payment available at all / most of the good saunas in Macau? Can the whole experience be covered by credit card or should I make sure to have cash on hand for tips and any other incidentals?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The big notable ones will accept credit cards. But don't make the mistake of thinking they are all good. Each one has its pros and cons depending on the discerning gentleman / monger. From my experience the charge is usually something inocuous like Blah blah Pty Ltd. They rarely put in something like Golden Sauna lest the missus or accounts dept start Googling what a sauna in Macau entails.

Some saunas don't accept credit cards. One example is Holiday Spa which is adjacent to Holiday Inn on main island.

Places that people have reviewed before will be a good start. The girls are rotated on a monthly basis which I suspect due to tourist visa.

Sometimes you hit gold, some times you don't. All part of mongering.

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2170183]The entry fee is around 200 - 300 HKD. But if you decide to get full service, they waive the entry fee. I'm not sure if just getting a thigh massage or other misc. Service will be the same.

I don't think they have a website. You can google image search for menu.[/QUOTE]If side expenses exceed the entry fee you just pay the bill with no entry fee.

The entry fee is to avoid people steps in, have drinks and food, pool usage and do not engage services that need to be paid, or don't spend enough.

It is a sort of minimum expenditure.

They keep this as a grey communication area to induce you the use FS and spend far more (plus side services if any is taken).

Side services I refer to are the different lounge massages, scrub, pedicure, thigh massage, including the 60 or 90 minute massage with HJ at the best.

Visited Holiday Spa first as it's my regular place to go. It is near Holiday Inn Macau (not Taipa island). 1400 HKD for a Kazakhstan girl. Awesome body and face but just a regular romp. The line up this time was so so. Usually they have more non-Asian foreigners but this time only 2. This Spa isn't FN or Rio for that matter. My preference for this place is due to being left alone after.

Being asked once for extra services.

Tried Darling 1 for the first time and I highly recommend it to anyone to try it once. A bit pricey for what you get. It's located in Macau Master's Hotel on the western side of main island. Go past small lobby towards hotel lifts, turn right and enter elevator to 3 F. Once you're in it's basically a big room with the girls (approx. 20-30) sitting on staggered benches in the middle. Managers quickly get you seated and offer simple drinks such as water or cola. They've even got binoculars in case you can't see too well past 10 metres. You can ask for girls to stand up to get a better look.

All models cost 1800 HKD except for ones with star badges. I believe they were 2300 HKD. I chose a Thai girl named Dew (#59). She has awesome fake titties and great face / body. I made sure to check her hands and feet to avoid getting a ladyboy. Pay upfront at the desk and go upstairs. After visiting other establishments I have to say the rooms at Darling 1 are great. Ceiling and wall mirrors so you can get good views. First off shower together with a short but nice BBBJ, then go to bed. After the deed she gave me a massage and then gave me a good soapy clean in the bath tub. The only downside I can think of with this place is that there aren't any extra services such as food, use of pool, etc. You'the get at a sauna for the same price. Afterwards I went to a nearby Thai restaurant the girl recommended. It was good and reminded me of my time living in Thailand.

Many moons ago there was the famous runway at the old Lisboa hotel. However since that has shutdown streetwalkers have scattered. I noticed several of them walking the shops between Venetian to Sheraton. Not sure if they will service westerners but they definitely approach Asian guys walking alone. I didn't ask for prices and to be honest would never go for them. So much better to visit a sauna or place like Darling. To be frank the quality of streetwalkers aren't great and they are all Chinese.

Good luck to all.

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2172379]Tried Darling 1 for the first time and I highly recommend it to anyone to try it once. A bit pricey for what you get. It's located in Macau Master's Hotel on the western side of main island. Go past small lobby towards hotel lifts, turn right and enter elevator to 3 F. Once you're in it's basically a big room with the girls (approx. 20-30) sitting on staggered benches in the middle. Managers quickly get you seated and offer simple drinks such as water or cola. They've even got binoculars in case you can't see too well past 10 metres. You can ask for girls to stand up to get a better look.

All models cost 1800 HKD except for ones with star badges. I believe they were 2300 HKD. I chose a Thai girl named Dew (#59). She has awesome fake titties and great face / body. I made sure to check her hands and feet to avoid getting a ladyboy. Pay upfront at the desk and go upstairs. After visiting other establishments I have to say the rooms at Darling 1 are great. Ceiling and wall mirrors so you can get good views. First off shower together with a short but nice BBBJ, then go to bed. After the deed she gave me a massage and then gave me a good soapy clean in the bath tub. The only downside I can think of with this place is that there aren't any extra services such as food, use of pool, etc. You'the get at a sauna for the same price. Afterwards I went to a nearby Thai restaurant the girl recommended. It was good and reminded me of my time living in Thailand.

Good luck to all.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your good report. Is BBBJ the norm in Daring 1 ? Is BBBJ the norm in FN?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2172945]Thank you for your good report. Is BBBJ the norm in Daring 1 ? Is BBBJ the norm in FN?[/QUOTE]Based on past experience, I always got BBBJ in Darling 1. Great view with the mirror on the ceiling above the bed! Don't know about FN, never been there.

BBBJ: Fire & ice is the norm in Macau Saunas. I can't recall a session where I didn't receive it. The last time I was in Darling 1, my Chinese model gave me a Fire & Ice preliminary BJ on the bed while we waited for the tub to fill with water. Then in the tub she blew me again, a really juciy, wet bj, as part of her overall soapy routine. I had a very good time with her.

In addition to BBBJ's, the girls in Rio, FN, & East, Emperor, Excellent, and Victoria all perform rim jobs. RJ's and total body cat licking don't really do all that much for me, but it is part of the routine and it is very naughty. YMMV applies so I won't say this will happen 100% of the time, but in my experience, it does.

The bottom line is Macau sauna service is the most expensive service in all of Asia. It should be among the best and it often is. If a sauna girl ever refused to give me a bbbj I would end the session and expect management to apologize and give me a different girl.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2172945]Thank you for your good report. Is BBBJ the norm in Daring 1 ? Is BBBJ the norm in FN?[/QUOTE]It was my first and at this stage only time I have visited Darling. With FN it is routine. The previous poster is correct that BBBJ should be standard but the quality as always is YMMV. If you and the girl share a common language I think there's a better chance to get a connection and in turn a better performance.

When talking to the manager and am informed there is a new working girl, 9 times out of ten I chose her. The reasoning being she wants to make a good impression as the manager will always ask for your review afterwards.

My former favorite East spa went down hill for me to ever go again. A friend visited a few months ago and the girl had so many restrictions. No kissing / licking anywhere was the big killer. She actually walked out of the room. Friend is ABC! Heard that management can no longer control the girls anymore hence the poor service.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2173161]BBBJ: Fire & ice is the norm in Macau Saunas. I can't recall a session where I didn't receive it. The last time I was in Darling 1, my Chinese model gave me a Fire & Ice preliminary BJ on the bed while we waited for the tub to fill with water. Then in the tub she blew me again, a really juciy, wet bj, as part of her overall soapy routine. I had a very good time with her.

In addition to BBBJ's, the girls in Rio, FN, & East, Emperor, Excellent, and Victoria all perform rim jobs. RJ's and total body cat licking don't really do all that much for me, but it is part of the routine and it is very naughty. YMMV applies so I won't say this will happen 100% of the time, but in my experience, it does.

The bottom line is Macau sauna service is the most expensive service in all of Asia. It should be among the best and it often is. If a sauna girl ever refused to give me a bbbj I would end the session and expect management to apologize and give me a different girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2173418]My former favorite East spa went down hill for me to ever go again. A friend visited a few months ago and the girl had so many restrictions. No kissing / licking anywhere was the big killer. She actually walked out of the room. Friend is ABC! Heard that management can no longer control the girls anymore hence the poor service.[/QUOTE]100% totally accurate.

Hey guys.

What's the short list of recommended saunas to go to nowadays? I used to live in Macau and was a regular punter back in the day, but bit out of touch with the sauna scene of late.

I went to Famiia Nobre about 6 months ago. That was ok'ish.

Sauna 18 about a year ago. Pricey and shit service from the staff and the girl I had was very mechanical.

CC1.

Unless you just happened to be in that area (business v trip perhaps) I strongly suggest not to punt in Macau. It's such sheet now and the prices are crazy. If you want to have a holiday punt may I suggest Thailand or just straight up best bang for the buck Indonesia.

[QUOTE=CC1;2173846]Hey guys.

What's the short list of recommended saunas to go to nowadays? I used to live in Macau and was a regular punter back in the day, but bit out of touch with the sauna scene of late.

I went to Famiia Nobre about 6 months ago. That was ok'ish.

Sauna 18 about a year ago. Pricey and shit service from the staff and the girl I had was very mechanical.

CC1.[/QUOTE]

I will be returning to Macau in a couple of months for my usual 5-night layover after an absence of more than a year. Things may have changed or maybe not. I shall see, but I am looking forward to my little nightcap.

All BM's are entitled to their own opinions based hopefully on their own sauna experiences and not on certain prejudices I won't go into here. And it is absolutely true that not all of my sauna experiences going back to 2009 have been great or worth remembering, but many have been memorable and that is for sure. So, when it comes to a destination like Macau, I rely on no one's opinion, but my own.

This time around my visit will take place at the tail end of a 2-month swing through BKK, Pat, Yangon, Jakarta, & MNL. On the 1st 3 nights back in Macau I plan to hit Rio, Darling 1 and FN in no particular order. I will also keep my eyes open for any interesting possible (they must be VERY attractive) casino and club FL's as well as SW's. I am also very curious about Club 9 in L'Arc.

My last 2 nights will be left opened and unplanned until way after I arrive. I might repeat with any of the 3 saunas listed above if I had a really good time in any one of them or I will go to one or two of the following saunas for more variety; Emperor, Excellent, Victoria, the One, or East Castle.

I have been to Macau enough times to know it ain't heaven, but it can be pretty God damn enjoyable if you have the money, a good attitude, go to the right places, and pick the right girls. YMMV! I will repeat that: YMMV! I will post a trip report in due time and I won't hesitate to name the good, the bad, and the ugly. 555!

Hello gents, been a while. Just wonder how's the scene nowadays as compared to 3-4 years ago? Thanks to Natty's and others'advice back in the day (like 4 years ago) I managed to get some of the best experiences in my life in FN and D1. How are those places doing these days? Nothing's changed? Or perhaps there are other places to be visited instead? Coming back to Macau after a while.

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2173238]It was my first and at this stage only time I have visited Darling. With FN it is routine. The previous poster is correct that BBBJ should be standard but the quality as always is YMMV. If you and the girl share a common language I think there's a better chance to get a connection and in turn a better performance.

When talking to the manager and am informed there is a new working girl, 9 times out of ten I chose her. The reasoning being she wants to make a good impression as the manager will always ask for your review afterwards.[/QUOTE]The price tag of Daring 1 is 1749 HKD for 90 minutes but I am not sure. What's the full service charge of FN?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2174149]The price tag of Daring 1 is 1749 HKD for 90 minutes but I am not sure. What's the full service charge of FN?[/QUOTE]That sounds about right with D1 price tag.

It has been a long time since I visited FN. However for FS it depends on which type of girl you go with. Vietnamese and Chinese go for the least at around 1700 - 1800 HKD. Whereas Thai, Korean, Japanese and model types go for around 2000+HKD. Don't bother with the Korean or Japanese types. They definitely aren't from there. Sometimes the model types are worth the hefty price based on looks alone but I'm not sure if their service matches the price.

I saw this online but not sure on how current the prices are. [URL]http://macaulocalinfo.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-7.html?sp[/URL].

They will quickly tell you which price is FS as other massages are just a HJ. Talk to the managers and they may even offer you a free neck massage if you choose a FS option.

Good luck.

Visited Sauna18 coming from mainland on my way to HKIA.

I arrived around 4 pm at the sauna and wanted to leave latest 8:30 pm to catch my midnight flight.

As always friendly welcome at the locker area. I went first to a shower by my own and afterwards twice 10 min sauna runs.

I always loved the body scrub at Sauna18 (good old times when the rooms had a door). Some months ago I went for a body scrub in the doorless room, which wasn't bad, but in no way erotic. Just a treatment. This time I opted again for a body scrub, nice treatment, but I was really annoyed by the traffic in front of the door. So, I won't do this again.

Afterwards I was waited for the line up, which was nice. Around 40 girls, any type, any class. I choosed a nice looking Chinese lady. We met some minutes later in the area behind the sauna, and went directly into one of the rooms.

Surprisingly my girl could speak some English, so that we had with my basic Chinese and her English something conversation. She broke the usual routine. After showering we went into a massage session, she massaged me and I massaged her.

Nice BBBJ, no CIM, sex with condom, and a second BBBJ (after my little man got cleaned). Overall a nice session, but it lacked a bit of excitement. Even we had some chit chat and smiles, I missed some GFE.

Nevertheless I left the room satisfied.

Overall damage was HKD 2. 900. And I don't feel that it was worth the money.

So, after many years visiting Sauna18 from time to time, I will skip them now.

OK guys.

I took one for the team this weekend!

Rocked up at FN about 6:30 pm on Sunday. Some massage lady with very broken Canto tried to explain that there were very few girls and if I would rather do a massage first. Something about a special deal reduced from $1888 to $1488 for 90 min for massage with HJ. I took her up on the offer. She seemed friendly. Well, I thought some other massage lady would do the service but it was in fact her. Well to cut a long story short, the massage was passable and the whole thing wasn't even 90 min. But rather 60 min. She wouldn't take off any of her clothes. In fact she was wearing pants! I hung around at the lounge until about 10 pm and there were very few punters and from what I could see of a few of the girls, they were OKish.

I ended up paying $1888 with a free foot massage and passed on FS girls. The service and atmosphere and all that jazz was not up to par and so I left.

I remember some punters talking about One sauna in Landmark. So wend there around 10:30 pm and to cut it short, this is my new fav!

Modern facilities much better than FN.

The line up was impressive. Koreans, Indonesia, Viet, PRC girls and "model" girls.

If I remember the price of the girl I chose was $2400 which is in line with FN.

I couldn't pop so added 60 min. I thought I would need to pay double, but in fact the top up charge was about $1000 or thereabouts. So pretty fair deal.

For now, this will be my new sauna joint!

CC1.

[QUOTE=DerTourist;2174124]Hello gents, been a while. Just wonder how's the scene nowadays as compared to 3-4 years ago? Thanks to Natty's and others'advice back in the day (like 4 years ago) I managed to get some of the best experiences in my life in FN and D1. How are those places doing these days? Nothing's changed? Or perhaps there are other places to be visited instead? Coming back to Macau after a while.[/QUOTE]If you take the time to read the page on which you posted your question and the pages before, you'll notice some punters already took the time to report on these venues.

D1 hasn't changed so much, its just further away from the ferry center near the Sofitel. Its less crowded than it used to be but still offers the same kind of service in a similar environnement.

[QUOTE=DerTourist;2174124]Hello gents, been a while. Just wonder how's the scene nowadays as compared to 3-4 years ago? Thanks to Natty's and others'advice back in the day (like 4 years ago) I managed to get some of the best experiences in my life in FN and D1. How are those places doing these days? Nothing's changed? Or perhaps there are other places to be visited instead? Coming back to Macau after a while.[/QUOTE]Just went to those 2 places about a month ago. FN has been done some remodeling since 3-4 years ago. Locker rooms is a little bit nicer, the showers are newer, the pool and lounge is the same, the action rooms are remodeled but they removed the ceiling mirror which is a downgrade. Of course you probably don't care about the facilities. They still get a free "show" around prime time 10-11 pm where the girls do a musical chairs thing with each doing an act like grinding or a short BJ. After the show they do a full line-up where you are expected to pick a girl. I declined and the management basically said somewhat rudely "It's not going to get any better". The Viets line up first. There were prob 10-12 Viets mostly 7-8/10 in terms of looks. Prob half the number there were 3-4 years ago. Then the rest of the lineup came out. Probably another 20 or so girls. Models were underwhelming compared to 3-4 years ago. Mostly just taller but not any hotter. Viets were around 2288. Everything else was like 2688 and up. Eventually picked a Viet. Service was still a solid 8/10. Comparable to 3-4 years ago. Also got a thigh massage from a really cute 20 yo Viet. Really enjoyable but she wasn't too happy about doing thigh massages. They prefer giving shoulder massages. Overall, I think the quality of the girls has dipped maybe half a point out of 10. Service is still about the same. Prices however have exploded and way too high to be enjoyable.

D1 looks exactly the same as it did 3-4 years ago. There were about 30 girls at around 8 PM and about 40 girls at around 10 PM. Price was 1800. Which is reasonable by Macao standards but high compared to anywhere else in Asia. Quality is about 6-7/10. Slightly worse than FN. Service was still good 8/10 and comparable to FN. Girl wanted 3000 to go back to the hotel after her shift. I said maybe. After her shift she texted me but I didn't respond. I also had some of the best experiences of my life at FN and D1 back in the day. You can still get good service in Macao but nowadays there are much better values around Asia.

Thanks for the advice. I haven't been in Macau for almost 10 years, and I have a upcoming buz trip to HK and planning to go to Macau. With your comment, I have my doubt now. It sucks about the degraded services.

[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2174071]Unless you just happened to be in that area (business v trip perhaps) I strongly suggest not to punt in Macau. It's such sheet now and the prices are crazy. If you want to have a holiday punt may I suggest Thailand or just straight up best bang for the buck Indonesia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DogRice;2180897]Thanks for the advice. I haven't been in Macau for almost 10 years, and I have a upcoming buz trip to HK and planning to go to Macau. With your comment, I have my doubt now. It sucks about the degraded services.[/QUOTE]Making such a drastic decision based on one monger's comment is nuts, IMO. I suggest you go see for yourself.

: the Wise advice. I used to go to Sauna18 and Rio, but any recommendation w / the best experience nowadays?

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2181133]Making such a drastic decision based on one monger's comment is nuts, IMO. I suggest you go see for yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DogRice;2182023]: the Wise advice. I used to go to Sauna18 and Rio, but any recommendation w / the best experience nowadays?[/QUOTE]I have not been there myself in a fairly long time, but I have had great time at FN, 18, Rio, and Darling1. Those are the places I would recommend, and visit on my next trip.

Greetings Guys,

I would like to thank all previous posters that lead me to this awesome place.

Sorry that I was late for this review, couldn't find the menu price list picture taken.

I started off at the Sands Cotai area hotels, took Uber to Familia Nombre Sauna for around USD 15? In the afternoon, traffic was a bit heavy.

Arrived at the sauna location and walked up a flight of stairs, was greeted by very friendly staff, during check in the usually questions was asked what type of massages therapies requested, given a wrist strap key and number for the locker, stripped off clothes and given a robe, then lead to the lounge area for drinks and requested head, shoulder, arms, hands, legs, foot massages.

There was a no rush atmosphere at the business, when you're ready just call for the many hostess for the line-up of the masseuse's from China, Indonesia, Vietnam, and Eastern Europe (evenings only).

You are lead to your massage room by your chosen masseuse which then you're taken to get a bath (room is a bit small) on the massage table by a different girl, after the bath your masseuse comes in to give the soapy massage, after finishing you're taken back to the massage room. After leaving the room, went to get something to eat which was very delicious bowl of beef noodles and a drink.

Went back to the locker area to change and back to the check-out area to pay the bill, came out to USD 275 with extra 1 hour with the masseuse. I spent around 5 hours, well worth it for the ambiance, friendly staff, free food, and excellent services. This place is comparable to Thailand Soapy massage venues, well worth the visit which offered good value in Macau.

Gents,

It's been a couple of years since I was in Macau and the prices continue to go up. The service is still excellent for sure, but the prices make onw think twice.

Popped my head into Darling 1 last week, around dinner time on a weekday. Good selection of about 30-40 girls. Price for regular Chinese and Vietnamese is about US $220 now, though I picked #19 who was Thai "model" and costed about US $260.

Usual 75 min of great service. Love those rooms they have with mirrors! She had a great body, not too skinny. Slim with nice curves. Unfortunately not really GFE except for some kissing at the end when she wanted me to finish. But great with rim and great FS. I'd recommend, unless you really want lots of GFE. The place continues to be great, in selection and service. I guess you get what you pay for. Would be interested in what people are getting across the border in Zhuhai. I met a Japanese monger who really liked the value he was getting there, but somehow couldn't remember the names of any good places there. Anyone know of any?

They do haircuts? Has anyone actually done it? LOL that's a first. Is the thigh massage done private?

[QUOTE=GuyLuvsParty;2204045]Greetings Guys,

I would like to thank all previous posters that lead me to this awesome place.

Sorry that I was late for this review, couldn't find the menu price list picture taken.

I started off at the Sands Cotai area hotels, took Uber to Familia Nombre Sauna for around USD 15? In the afternoon, traffic was a bit heavy.

Arrived at the sauna location and walked up a flight of stairs, was greeted by very friendly staff, during check in the usually questions was asked what type of massages therapies requested, given a wrist strap key and number for the locker, stripped off clothes and given a robe, then lead to the lounge area for drinks and requested head, shoulder, arms, hands, legs, foot massages.

There was a no rush atmosphere at the business, when you're ready just call for the many hostess for the line-up of the masseuse's from China, Indonesia, Vietnam, and Eastern Europe (evenings only).

You are lead to your massage room by your chosen masseuse which then you're taken to get a bath (room is a bit small) on the massage table by a different girl, after the bath your masseuse comes in to give the soapy massage, after finishing you're taken back to the massage room. After leaving the room, went to get something to eat which was very delicious bowl of beef noodles and a drink.

Went back to the locker area to change and back to the check-out area to pay the bill, came out to USD 275 with extra 1 hour with the masseuse. I spent around 5 hours, well worth it for the ambiance, friendly staff, free food, and excellent services. This place is comparable to Thailand Soapy massage venues, well worth the visit which offered good value in Macau.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dynolas;2211501]They do haircuts? Has anyone actually done it? LOL that's a first. Is the thigh massage done private?[/QUOTE]Rio sauna has a barber guy doing haircuts or shaving, at your wish. You pay for, of course.

Has anyone been to The One? How's the quality of talent? Looking for really pretty girls with good GFE.

[QUOTE=GuyLuvsParty;2204045]Greetings Guys,

I would like to thank all previous posters that lead me to this awesome place.

Sorry that I was late for this review, couldn't find the menu price list picture taken.

I started off at the Sands Cotai area hotels, took Uber to Familia Nombre Sauna for around USD 15? In the afternoon, traffic was a bit heavy.

Arrived at the sauna location and walked up a flight of stairs, was greeted by very friendly staff, during check in the usually questions was asked what type of massages therapies requested, given a wrist strap key and number for the locker, stripped off clothes and given a robe, then lead to the lounge area for drinks and requested head, shoulder, arms, hands, legs, foot massages..[/QUOTE]What was on the menu? DFK, Rim, GFE, BBBJ. Recent posts have indicated overall sauna service has been decreasing and limiting the menu to the mechanical FS.

[QUOTE=BlahMan333;2214283]Has anyone been to The One? How's the quality of talent? Looking for really pretty girls with good GFE.[/QUOTE]Went there about years ago. It's pretty good. Place is nice with higher end surroundings. Girls look pretty good too. Slightly less pretty than Rio but better service. Worth trying if you haven't been there before.

Hello,

I'm going to Macau next week for my birthday for one night only. Hope to have a real happy experience (now that Dalian is dead). Is there any sauna (or even normal massage / tug place) that is known for having more girls (college age) than other places? Or are they just scattered around throughout the various saunas?

[QUOTE=SmashPuss;2218688]What was on the menu? DFK, Rim, GFE, BBBJ. Recent posts have indicated overall sauna service has been decreasing and limiting the menu to the mechanical FS.[/QUOTE]Most of the time it's mechanical, but of course there's exception. Depending on my chemistry with the lady, sometimes I got DFK and GFE, sometimes not. But I always got BBBJ and rim job (but don't care about rimming). I would leave the room and complain to the manager if the lady started giving CBJ.

I have been to the Waldo Hotel several times but only ever around every 12 months. Despite the girl (Nina 808) being the best I have had for many a year, the rest of the experience was rather depressing and just so expensive. I just walked up so did not have a 'package' - not sure what I would have saved if I had bought a package at the Hong Kong ferry terminal, as I have done in the past. The greeters were all very friendly and after a shower (the showers have been refreshed but nothing else has changed), I was shown to the main room that was near empty. Many more staff than punters. There was no 'assistance' with the shower as was a feature in the past with a short BBBJ if you were lucky. There were several bored looking girls waiting near the showers and one even walked over when I could not get the water to run hot but that's all.

After getting changed and comfortable, had a beer (extra) and a shoulder massage (extra) while waiting for the show. Got talking to a guy from Hong Kong who mentioned that the Chinese are not coming in the same numbers except on Friday and Saturday. I was there around 1930 on a Thursday. There is also a lot of competition around. The show was the same as a year ago. Some of the girls walk around and stop by each client for a bit of a feel and finishing on a short BBBJ but they obviously hate the whole experience. The girls then change and come back with more of the model types for a parade. Mostly Vietnamese and Chinese but I need a girl with some English so that restricted the selection. Anyway, I'd talked briefly with Nina as I walked in and she was definitely one of the best of the 20 girls in the parade. A few tall model types and a few very thin Chinese girls but the number and quality was way down on my previous visits. I guess if the clients are not there, the quality of the girls is also limited.

Anyway, the night improved from there. Nina was beautiful and had the most amazing breasts considering her petite size. Not too large but firm, round, perfectly shaped and real. A nice smile, some conversation (she is from Hanoi in Vietnam) and so enthusiastic. She was also nicely trimmed rather than being too hairy. My tastes are fairly straight and she delivered it all. A nice long BBBJ in the shower, she allowed me to go down on her with the necessary moaning (but not too much. She got very wet), more vigorous BJ, ball licking and rimming and general foreplay before even putting a condom on. She was also most enthusiastic in various positions until I came and then was happy to lie and chat for a while. The best overall girl and experience for a long time. I came away happy til I reached the desk on the way out.

Unfortunately, the cost was a real surprise MOP 2800 so this will be my last visit.

Flying visit. Thanks CX for an unexpected cheap flight offer. Stayed at the Holiday Inn (not the Cotai one). Not expensive and convenient. But do not bother with the restaurant or swimming pool.

Holiday Spa was shut. Notices outside seems to be notifying of facility turn-off, so someone maybe not paying the bills. (My Portuguese is nill, and my Mandarin even worst.) So if this was not temporary, RIP Holiday Spa. And Windsor Spa for those that remember.

Usual visit to FNS. Really good time with usual thigh massage and massage ladies both in one evening! I never seem to make it to the working gals these days.

Visited Emperor Spa. I think I reviewed this place before and was not that impressed, but really enjoyed it this time. Spa area ladies are rather pushy, so be prepared. I had a Japanese Shower. Very good fun with a very chatty Viet.

A they have a 'butt massage', like a thigh massage, but the other way around, and it in a private room. Until you turn around that is. Very nice way to spend a few hours in the afternoon.

One Spa much the same. It well fitted out, welcoming staff. One of the ladies who I got to know ages ago seems still working there. Came to my hotel room the next day before work. A real blast. Some people just love f*king!

That is. Do not find myself in this part of the world that often these days. Thank god, I cannot afford it too often. But there is something about the easiness of having sex in Macau that I still like.

Maybe next time Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Rich888;2237517]Unfortunately, the cost was a real surprise MOP 2800 so this will be my last visit.[/QUOTE]I stopped doing Macau saunas because the novelty isn't there anymore. This was back in 2012. I was a avid east spa customer from 2006 - 2010 but seeing the services decline, the Showtime is few and far between, the quantity and quality of girls are decline, and the last kicker the price increase from 1200 mop to 2600 mop excluding the BS 15% misc fee.

I don't know what it will take for the customers to stop going so east spa can either be forced to improve or shut down.

To Stinky feet.

I was not impressed with the quality of girls in saunas in Macau and Shenzhen. In about 2012 I was with a bunch of business friends and went to Queen's Spa in ShenZhen after dinner. Their line up was pretty poor at 8 PM. The girls wore fancy dresses but look homey, sad, depressing. The stars were more expensive just because they were taller, not more beautiful, but also looked old, homey and tired. I took one since there were no better choices. She went through the whole menu of suck, lick, fuck ect, but I was not sexually excited by her older and worn appearances.

But one time a friend took me to a sauna in a small town outside ShenZhen, called Dalien Business Resort, a five-star hotel with large rooms complete with a sauna, bath, large king bed and large screen TV. They had a stage and by 3 PM they started a fashion show, only half a dozen HK guys were there, drinking tea, ogling the girls. About 30 girls started parading in party dresses, most looked plain. I picked the yongest and hottest girls, she said 18 from ShenZhen. Her name was Xiao Xien, or Little Xien. It costed about $160 for 90 minutes, which included 2 shots.

She steamed, bathed me then we went to the bed for the massage and sex. She tookk care of me like a baby, did everything in the menu, including spreading toothpaste in my anus for a rim job. I really enjoyed her beauty and youthfulness. After the first shot, she steamed me again and blew me bareback to get me hard again. I started penetrating her bare back, shot again, but did not feel tired. Got to admit it felt good and rejuvenating. She made sure I understood that more shots would cost more money, but I liked her so much and felt so good that I quickly agreed. She blew me BB again and I did 2 more shots BB with her. Overall I did 4 shots with her in 90 minutes, still feeling wonderful, satisfied, energetic at the end. It was amazing how this young girl managed to coach 4 shots out of me in a short time. I would definitely spend money for those kinds of exquisite sexual pleasures.

She quickly exited the room at the end to go back to the line up for more business. I paid the resort about $240 for the session and went to their cafeteria for free chow mein and beers to recoup with my friend. A line of 8 male and female resort managers in suits walked pass my table, looking at the 4-shot monster with their conspiratory smiling hehe. Some of those female managers were in their mid 30's, wearing suit and skirt uniform like Asian flight attendants. They look nice, clean, smart, sexy enough to fuck.

That was my best sauna experience, well, the best sexual experience ever, 4 shots with the same sex partner feeling totally relaxed, rejuvenated. That young girl knew what she was doing and was better than 1,000 doctors. She could be the secret to livinglong and sexually strong. Don't know if Dalien Business Resort still operates but I wish I can find similar facilities with same girls and would definitely spend money for the same pleasures.

Okay, let me preface this by saying that I didn't go at the optimal times for Macau. I was on a 3 day trip to HK for some business and had a free spare day, so I decided to hop on the ferry to Macau at 10 am from HK and I arrived at Cotai port. I was told to go to Lisboa Hotel which ended up being on the other side of Old Macau, so I took the bus to the other side and started wandering around Lisboa hotel looking for this "Racetrack" that my friends tell me about. I walked for an hour around both Lisboa hotels (they are across the street from each other), and no girls in sight. I was confused and annoyed I didn't see what Macau had to offer. But then I quickly realized it was probably the wrong time of day to be looking for girls since it was about 130 pm in the afternoon.

Then my friend told me to check out the Sauna at Rio Hotel which was a short 15-20 minute walk from Hotel Lisboa. My cell phone wasn't roaming properly so I had no access to internet only texts so I couldn't do any proper research about the Rio Sauna. I arrived at around 2 pm, and was given the rundown on how the sauna works. The man in front showed me a poster that had prices listed from about 6000 MOP, down to 1150 MOP. The 1150 MOP was basically just to use the shower / sauna / relaxation room. Or more or less the entry fee. Then they had a list of other items like, "Mainland China, Vietnamese, European Beauties, and all the way at the top Japan AV Porn Star. " I was like wow this seems interesting even though for the price its 4-5 x more expensive than what I usually experience in Tijuana's Hong Kong bar. So I went in, undressed and they told me to put on a robe and take a shower. After that is done, they escorted me into a room with nice comfortable chair beds, gave me a free drink and asked me to wait. Since it was only 2 pm, they said that "shows" don't start for another hour. So I waited, relaxing. While every 5 minutes someone different would come up to me offering to massage a specific body part of mine. Whether it be foot, legs, thighs, head, chest, pretty much everything. Then someone would ask if I wanted pedicure / manicure. I passed on all of that. I was already expecting to pay about 3500 MOP for a European beauty. I dislike Asian girls in general being Asian myself, and so I am basically tired of always eating rice.

So the first show starts and about 7 girls come out onto stage with rave music blaring. A few other guys grab some girls and off to the room they went. I didn't like any of the options since they were all mainlanders so the MMS told me that the next show was in 30 minutes. So I agreed and went back to my chair bed and waited again. 30 minutes pass and another show started. It was the same girls in addition to maybe 2 other mainlanders. By now it was 330 pm, and I knew I was screwed for time since I needed to be back in HK by 7 pm for a dinner meeting. I knew full well I still needed to visit a few places in Macau before heading back to HK so I reluctantly agreed to take a mainland Chinese girl back whom the MMS quoted 2800 MOP for. BTW, I asked the MMS when the European beauties would arrive and she then tells me 5 pm!! Ugh. I could've used that information earlier and avoided the place had I known no european girls would be available during my visit.

Anyways, I get escorted upstairs to room with this weird bathtub bed. This mainland asian girl spoke no English so I had to use my limited Mandarin to speak to her. It sucked. She leads me to this bathtub bed and starts to mix this white liquid which I was later told was Milk into this bathtub. She asked me to lay in the tub and begins to do a pseudo nuru massage rubbing her body against mine. I thought it was kind of meh. Useless really. Didn't enjoy it. I also didn't like the fact that she had boltons. Huge turn off. After the bath, back onto the bed we went and while I lay there she has this bucket placed next to the bed and what she ends up doing is taking a mouthful of ice water into her mouth and starts spitting and sucking it back into her mouth while kissing my body. It was a weird experience, but she would keep making this spitting sound into the bucket. That was a huge distraction. Then she did it while giving me a BBBJ, okay nice, Interesting I thought.

What I did like was the mirror on top of the bed. It was pretty cool to look down at myself while getting a blowjob. First time I've had that experience. So, after that weird water sucking thing, she started giving me a handjob. I was trying to finger her while she did that but she wouldn't allow it. UGH. WTF. After a bit of coaxing, she agreed but only after she stuck a condom on my fingers LOL. Well, I was already annoyed about the experience and the fact that I dislike mainland Chinese girls, it was very hard for me to get hard let alone stay hard. She finally got me up and slapped the condom on. After a few minutes I lost my chubby and she got off, and started stroking me to completion.

After the first pop, she told me that I am allowed two pops for 80 minutes total. (forgot to mention that was told to me as we were walking up to the room, but I didn't understand it properly because the MMS' English was very bad). So the girl said we can go again but I told her that I was already pressed for time and I needed to leave. She said fine, and we both got dressed. As I was getting ready to pay, they all notice that I was in and out very quickly and asked if anything was wrong. I told them that I had to leave because I have other plans. He gave me the bill and it came out to be 4800 MOP! I'm like WTF. I was expecting to pay 2800 for the mainland Chinese girl, which was already about $400 USD, which is clearly overpriced compared to what we pay here in Socal or Tijuana, and now my bill was 4800 MOP which is about 600-700 USD! I asked the manager how did it become so expensive. He basically explained that it was $2800 for the girl, along with like $600 MOP for the "milk bath" which I didn't request or even agree to. And there was another charge for something, I don't remember but the total came out to 4800. So basically I paid 6-700 USD for one pop and a subpar experience. Then to make matters worse, I asked the manager why there were no European girls, and he told me they don't come in until 8 pm!

So yeah, I would've been even more upset if I waited til 5 pm for the euro girls and none showed up until 8 pm. I was already late enough as it is. So lesson learned, don't venture into Macau to monger during the daytime. Only go during the evenings. And in terms of service and selection, to me at least the Hong Kong bar in Tijuana is a much better experience and more affordable.

[QUOTE=SpikeBites1;2248342]So lesson learned, don't venture into Macau to monger during the daytime. Only go during the evenings. And in terms of service and selection, to me at least the Hong Kong bar in Tijuana is a much better experience and more affordable.[/QUOTE]That is it in a nutshell. Prime time Rio Sauna (8 pm to 11 pm) is a totally different place from the afternoon Rio Sauna you described. For starters there are at least 70 to 80 girls in the lineup with some major stunners. I was not impressed with Rio's collection of Euro girls, however, but many of the Asian girls were quite outstanding and true "model" quality. In my opinion November 2018 Rio Sauna had a better looking lineup of girls than I had seen in comparable bordellos in Bangkok (La Belle & the Lord) or in Jakarta (Malioboro & 1001 Hotel) this trip. More expensive too. 555.

The hottest Rio girls, IMHO, were in the Chinese Super Model and Korean Model category. Familia Nobre currently has a gorgeous Ukrainian Model who is a real stunner. I was tempted to take her even though I never go for Caucasian girls in Asia, but her price was astronomical (4400 mop). Maybe you should have gone to FN if Caucasian was what you were looking for. The milk massage at Rio is not worth the time or money as you describe, but in all my visits to Rio, I have always been asked if I wanted it and it was never foisted on me. Perhaps you should have RTFF a little more carefully before venturing forth. LIve and learn I guess.

Macau prices Are exorbitant. I suffered sticker shock my first night back due to the fact that since my last visit in 2016 prices have soared 35%. The amazing thing, however, is both Rio and Familia Nobre still have plenty of customers, mostly Chinese and I was in Macau from Sunday night to Friday morning. I would imagine that on weekends both places are jam packed with few lounge chairs free. I don't blame the sauna for the price hike. I believe the price increases go straight to payoffs of government and police officials in order to stay in business. P.S. the police closed down the Lisboa Racetrack a couple of years ago. I miss that set up. It was entertaining to watch all the eye candy, Lions Bar in the MGM is gone as well. That used to be a good place to pick up high quality Indo FL's. And MP3 is gone as well or maybe it just moved. I am not sure.

I bought a Rio Sauna one year membership my 1st night back for 80 or 90 mop. This entitled me to 300 mop off the price of any girl and 1 free massage of my choice each and every night including a thigh massage. In addition, as a member if I wechatted the manager before coming, he would send a sauna limo to my hotel to pick me up and I would get an additional 300 mop off my girl, any girl. Thus the Rio membership was worth 900 mop per visit. Rio prices were still high, but the prime time girls are amazingly hot and service is excellent, at least in my recent experience this November. My trip report will follow shortly.

It was cloudy and cool afternoon in Macau as we reached to our Ferry terminal by Cotai ferry. The Ferry Terminal looked better than my last visit in 2014. Bigger halls and Immigration was smooth, no questions asked. There were less tourists in the hall. Maybe it was working day or the business was slow no way of knowing. We took taxi to our hotel Rio. The taxi drivers in Macau hardly speak English so I carry hotel booking paper which has Hotel name in mandarin script which he understood.

I have been planning this trip for some time, done RTFF many times. My last visit I did Sauna18 which was great experience. I still can not forget group of Japs in bathrobe with laptops in some intense discussion and then suddenly jumping up and running when the showtime bell goes off. Wish we had such corporate comradery LOL.

This trip I had important friend who never been to Asia and I wanted him to have best experience. Many previous posts by seniors helped but Natty Bumpo had many good informative post on Macau Saunas. Thanks to you sir. I went back reading his posts till September 2017 which helped in making decision. His recommendation on all Saunas was useful. He quoted " *I recommend Rio if you are looking for the hottest Chinese, "Japanese & Korean" girls. " So it has to be Rio, since we had one Friday night and less time to try different saunas. I booked Rio hotel so that we don't have to move out of hotel.

After checking in at 1 pm we went to have look at Rio Sauna, there was not much happening there. The guy told us the best time to come there is about 7 pm when we can see their best talent. We went out walking to Sanado square, So many tourists were walking around the square. Old Macau buildings has distinctive Portuguese influence, this country being their colony for hundreds of years. We had Portuguese food in Boa Mesa which was delicious. The octopus, grilled cod was delicious, a good Portuguese red added to our holiday mood in Macau. We came back to hotel, rested well and met downstairs at 6. 30 pm.

As soon as we entered the Sauna a guy in suit who spoke good English took us in the hall where showtime has just started. It was crowded with mostly Chinese and few of us foreigners. There were 50-60 stunning girls in line up which was constantly moving. Chinese, Japanese and Koreans were most beautiful in the lineup, there were Russians and East European as well. We felt like kids in toyshop bewildered at the huge choice of pretty girls to play around. Prices quoted were from 3100 mop to 4000 mop. Natty Bumpo was right in saying that prices have gone up in last few years. I remember we paid 1800 in 2014 at Sauna 18 for Viet girl. As Natty has said it may be to cover bribes to be paid to local officials to keep business going. It is also may be because of the fact that Chinese economy has done well in recent years and young people, executives, businessmen have surplus income to splurge on everything. Branded Watches and Jewelry prices in Macau and HK were much higher as compared to other fashion capitals of world. Inspite of that the places were busy.

The quality of girls were model like, tall sexy and beautiful. We decided on tall sexy Chinese girls. The lineup was constantly moving, not enough space on stage. I told my friend to find the girl who looks into your eyes and gives you slight smile. I chose no 285 with name Happy and he chose Lulu. Both girls were young, tall and pretty. Happy could speak some English which was a surprise. She was holding my hand as we walked into the hall. The Chinese man was saying very good choice etc maybe his usual sales pitch. We were ushered in the lounge and asked to wait till the rooms are prepared. In 15 minutes we walked to the room and there she was wearing sexy black lingerie She hugged me and I moved my hand over her body. She had tight ass and body of a young woman. The vibes were good. She was less than 21 years of age but refused to tell me her exact age, she had nice laugh of a teenager and was really a Happy person. She removed her lingerie She had medium natural breasts and smooth shapely body. She asked me to wait till she prepared the bath. There were mirrors on the ceiling and porn movie was on creating an erotic atmosphere. The bath was big rectangle tub made into bed with mattress soaked in warm water. I was asked to lie face down which I did slowly because things were getting slippery. The feeling of warm water was soothing and I was enjoying it. She used hand shower with soap to wash my back which was relaxing. She then applied nuru kind of gel and started sliding on my back, could feel her tits in my ass crack and sliding upward, she was good at it. I was rock hard and worried that I may puncture the mattress haha. The slide continued then she soaped my back with fragrant soap foam and washed me again. She asked me to turn which I was sure waiting for. I turned over and grabbed her wet sexy body, what a pleasure to run hands all over her firm natural medium tities and round ass of a young girl. She put foam and started sliding, she was pure delight to watch breathing down my neck with her wet hair and beautiful face smiling and giggling as her north south slide continued especially titillating the erogenous zones. It was a Nirvana moment. She allowed me to touch and put fingers carefully in her wet tight snatch. She was humming while I was enjoying the feel of her pussy. She now started moving from my toes upward slowly licking everything, first she moved her tongue all over my balls holding the fully erect mast and then she started a slow BBBJ. It was really good. She then gave me what is now standard in saunas here ice / fire blowjob. First cool mint like liquid in her mouth and then warm water alternating to give blowjob. It is different enjoyable in part but did not enjoy much may be because she was spitting in between. Next course was warm milk treatment. Warm milk was poured over my legs, cock, balls upto chest. She then licked it slowly slurping the milk. She was now focusing on my cock, she gave wonderful blowjob slurping that milk, She repeated milk and gave blowjob again this time it was deep throat. It was slow and I could see it in the mirror above. I was on the edge and did not want to blow it there. I stopped her and said I want now to fuck her because the mast is at it's largest. She giggled. On to the bed, she expertly put the condom. I went down and sucked her, she smelled and tasted young, sweet. She seems to be enjoying the DATY. I took her in mish, she guided me well into her after she put some lube saying you are not big but large. She must have seen bigger cocks than mine but they must be saying to feel you better and get harder LOL. She spread her legs and I humped for good amount of time longer than normally I last. It was very satisfying sex in mish, I even did not change the position. It was the perfect fit in her tight young snatch. It took me long time to come but stayed hard and large for sometimes before I collapsed on top of her as she was holding me affectionately. She again washed me thoroughly. We had 5 minutes left to one hour mark. I told her to give me foot massage which was good.

She walked me to the hall and left me at the entrance with hug and smile. I saw my friend was on lounge chair with one Viet in red top giving him Thai massage and other one shoulder massage. He was beaming with happiness. He told me repeatedly that this was his best sauna experience. He could not stop talking about his girl Lulu. I was pleased that he has thoroughly enjoyed the experience. As soon as I was on the lounge chair the Massage girls, the nail cutter man started pestering me. I anyway wanted thigh massage. I had some good memories of it from Sauna18. I said yes to pretty viet for thigh massage and ohhh she was so good. She had that sexy look in her eyes when she massaged my cock under the towel with cream. She made me hard with her nice hand motion around twigs and berries. It is fun to do this under the towel in public area. There were other viet girls with tight skirt showing their ass. The were deliberately bending near the counter to entice men relaxing on lounge chairs. My Viet girl was teasing me into taking one more girl since I was hard and large under the towel LOL. But we did not take another girl, we were happy and we left. The total damage per person with extra services like thigh massage, pedicure, shoulder massage was about 3800 mop.

We went to Cotai strip by taxi. The strip has changed a lot since my last visit. Walked from Sands, Parisian to Venetian and visited all casinos. They were massive with thousands of Mainland Chinese having great time, it was noisy and impressive interiors. Between Parisian and Venetian saw many SW mostly Chinese. They were approaching everyone boldly. One good looking girl got hold of my hand and said 1000 , one hour boom boom!! Some SW were doable, some looked Vietnamese. I am not sure about this SW, I will still stay with Saunas. Sad to know the Lisboa race track is closed. In last visit we stayed at Lisboa and watched those well dressed pretty Chinese girls walking in shopping arcade. We sat in corner caf and watched the fun. 30-40 girls constantly walking. It was unique.

Yes, Macau has become expensive and there are many better options but Macau Sauna leaves good memory. I did FKKs, Bangkok fishbowls, Barcelona incall places with Jacuzzi. Each has it's own charm. But there is something about Macau Saunas which makes me feel going back again. A concept of total Girl friendly experience with prettiest girls, options of thigh massage, pedicure, manicure, shoulder massage etc under one roof.

My friend said it is full service in real sense. He was the happiest man and could not stop talking about it even at 38000 feet standing at bar with drink as we flew back. !!

Any advice on doing the Rio Spa on a Sunday vs a Monday? Is Monday a day off for many of the girls?

(I could potentially do Saturday, but my guess is it's super crowded then?

My #2 pick is the One Sauna at Landmark, any compelling reason to choose this over the Rio for my first sauna try? I do like a good pool / spa & I absolutely hate being pestered / upsold.

Thanks!

Quick question for those with more Macau experience than me. Trying to get a visit in today and interested in starting at Hou Va for some savings. Does anyone know what time they open and if going around lunchtime on a Sunday is a bad decision?

Visited Hou Va today, arriving around 2 pm. Was greeted by papasan who summoned two girls and walked me through the menu. Pricing was 698 or 988-ish for the regular and model girls, respectively. I chose the mode girl because she was definitely in the upper tier looks department. Alas, service was mechanical. It got the job done, but I wasn't impressed with her or the facilities. Glad I stopped in, but next time I'll pony up more dough for a sauna experience.

I will be visiting soon. Where is Hou Va sauna? Tried the advanced search and google map but don't find the address. Thanks.

[QUOTE=HornyCock;2260916]I will be visiting soon. Where is Hou Va sauna? Tried the advanced search and google map but don't find the address. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Centro Massagens Eléctrico Hou Va.

Rua de Ferreira do Amaral 19.

Across the part from Park Royal hotel.

Is it possible to take out a girl at night from Hou Va paying the sauna for one-hour charge and then ask her to stay overnight with me?

[QUOTE=HornyCock;2264439]Is it possible to take out a girl at night from Hou Va paying the sauna for one-hour charge and then ask her to stay overnight with me?[/QUOTE]You can take them out for a surcharge. But I suspect that they are "on duty" for the establishment all evening and most of the night.

[QUOTE=SpikeBites1;2248342]...started wandering around Lisboa hotel looking for this "Racetrack" that my friends tell me about. I walked for an hour around both Lisboa hotels (they are across the street from each other), and no girls in sight...[/QUOTE]First, that was a nice, detailed report. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

Too bad you did not know that the racetrack has been closed for a few years now. Whoever sent you there should have known that.

[QUOTE=SpikeBites1;2248342]....And in terms of service and selection, to me at least the Hong Kong bar in Tijuana is a much better experience and more affordable.[/QUOTE]I would agree that the Hong Kong club in Tijuana can be more affordable, but better experience? I doubt it. I have visited both locations, many times, and I always found the sauna experience in Macau superior. In addition, I always end up spending more money at the HK club, when I add up the drinks for the girl and other miscellaneous fees.

I used to frequent Macau a lot between 2011 and 2014, but have since stayed away. My favourite saunas's were 18, Emperor, FN, East and Sanado (closed now. I was the last day it existed too). Never liked Rio girls except one due to excessive facial surgeries sending them far into the uncanny valley. One one Rio girl was hot in 3-4 years.

But the prices back then was 1800-2200 for a coupon bought at shun take ferry terminal, and there were no reason to buy more than that.

1. How is the prices for lets say 18 sauna and Familia Nobre now? And do you always have to pay more than the initial coupon price even if you go for the short chinese 1 XX girls at 18 sauna?

2. Do they still handpick out the prettiest 9-10 girls in all these saunas and keep them away from the saunas and into the racist KTV's that only show the pretty ones to local Chinese men? And then ugly 1-5's to the foreigners such as happened to me both at Golden Dragon (18 sauna), and at 8 different changping KTV's and Bangkok KTV's? Or is the racism on retreat?

Hey Pistons, if you have not been to Macau since 2014 you are in for a real sticker shock. I had not there since 2016 and upon my return in November 2018 I found prices were up 25% across the board in all the Saunas. Surprisingly, or perhaps not, given this is Macau, the increased prices seem to have no effect on consumer demand. The saunas I visited in prime time were full of customers. There were no racial incidents of any kind. No girls were held back from showtime lineup. I had the opportunity to select whoever I wished. Usually I was the only Caucasian present and I was always treated very well, especially in Rio Sauna, were the manager took me aside the 1st night and told me about the advantages of becoming a Rio Club member and the substantial cost savings: 300 mop off the price of any girl, 300 mop off any service including thigh massage. (Essentially a free massage), and an additional 300 mop off the bill any time I called ahead and requested a limo pick up from my hotel.

Rio had the best-looking girls this trip. Their model category Chinese and Korean girls were top quality (8 plus *). Familia Nobre had a super model quality 8. 5* Ukrainian girl and some very attractive 7. 8 * Singapore and Taiwanese girls

Familia Nobre Prices:

Vietnamese girls - 2588 mop.
Chinese girls - 2788 mop.
Taiwan / Singapore girls - 3088 mop.
Australian / EUR/ Russian - 3888 mop.
Chinese Model - 4088 mop.
Japanese / Korean / Ukranian Model - 4588 mop.

(Note: taking any FN girl above entitles customers to a free massage of any kind including a thigh massage.).

Rio Sauna Prices:

Vietnamese girls - 2120 mop.
Chinese girls - 3008 mop.
Asian Model - 3121 mop.
European girl - 3232 mop.
Emperor Model (Chinese Model / Korean girl) - 3442 mop.
Japanese / Korean Super Model - 4537 mop.

(Note: with the purchase of a 90 mop Rio Membership there is automatic 300 mop off any girl listed above & on all future visits for 1 year, 300 mop credit for any massage service, plus an additional 300 mop off any girl when a free limo pickup is ordered in advance. So, a Chinese Emperor Model is 2842 mop with membership and that includes a free thigh massage before or afterwards.).

So, are these crazy prices justified? No. Of course not. Are the Chinese, Korean, Singapore, Taiwan models beautiful? Some are, yes and a few are spectacular. Did I have a good time (5 nights / 7 girls)? You better believe I did. Am I planning to return? Not in 2019. I plan to focus on BKK, RGN, CGK, and MNL. But I don't rule out a 2020 visit. LOL. I was very happy with my 2 Rio Chinese models and my Familia Nobre Singapore girl. In fact, I repeated twice with one of my Rio Chinese girls and with my FN Singapore girl. I liked them both so much. I am still in contact with my favorite Chinese model although I doubt I will ever see her again. Sadly I bungled the WeChat profile set up and lost my Singapore girl's number. It would have been fun to see her again in Singapore one day. Looking back, I wish I had done one of Rio's Korean models, one in particular was super sexy, and that FN Ukranian girl was unbelievably hot! I still think about that one with her tall, thin, body with large natural tits, blond hair and a very beautiful face. Oh La La! But Ukranian's price WAS astronomical. So that is Macau 2019. LOL. My advice is don't go there unless you are willing and able to pay up for top quality and enjoy the place.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2274236]Hey Pistons, if you have not been to Macau since 2014 you are in for a real sticker shock. I had not there since 2016 and upon my return in November 2018 I found prices were up 25% across the board in all the Saunas. Surprisingly, or perhaps not, given this is Macau, the increased prices seem to have no effect on consumer demand. The saunas I visited in prime time were full of customers. There were no racial incidents of any kind. No girls were held back from showtime lineup. I had the opportunity to select whoever I wished. Usually I was the only Caucasian present and I was always treated very well, especially in Rio Sauna, were the manager took me aside the 1st night and told me about the advantages of becoming a Rio Club member and the substantial cost savings: 300 mop off the price of any girl, 300 mop off any service including thigh massage. (Essentially a free massage), and an additional 300 mop off the bill any time I called ahead and requested a limo pick up from my hotel.[/QUOTE]Great field report! Thanks for the price list, rarely seen anymore. Very interesting that FN now seems to be more expensive than Rio. That seems like a complete reversal from the past. So what happened here? FN raised their prices a lot while Rio only raised theirs a little? I believe FN has a membership program too.

[QUOTE=HornyCock;2260916]I will be visiting soon. Where is Hou Va sauna? Tried the advanced search and google map but don't find the address. Thanks.[/QUOTE]As an experiment, I just went to Google and searched "hou va massage macau". The first ten results were about Hou Va and at least half showed the location of the place. One result was from this very forum.

Had a lot of trouble deciding which sauna to visit. Rio, FN. Finally decided on 18 Spa in the Golden Dragon hotel. A local man I met on the plane waxed enthusiastically about this place, so I thought I'd give it a try. I'm actually writing this report from their dining area.

After heading up to 6th floor of the Casino building (not the hotel building), if you look legit they'll open the door for you. Go in to locker area where they will show you the price list for everything while you're changing. I was a bit sticker shocked, but I saw another bro below post the prices for FN and Rio, and they are the same at 18 Spa. Methinks the spas have informally gotten together the price fix their services.

Next is the hot pool area where you can take a nice soak. Other services on offer are they wash you and body scrub. I declined as most of the service women were old and around a 3/10. A few 6/10 with nice bodies, but I prefer to spend my money on other services.

After soaking and taking a shower three of the Viet girls proceeded to help me change. They then tried to ask for a tip and were extremely aggressive. They are 4's and 5's out of 10, so I recommend completely ignoring them. If they latch on to you just forcefully pull away. This really turned me off, but fortunately, this was the only point in my visit where this happened.

Next, the lounge room. It's large and spacious, with many sections. They have a lot of free drinks and food on the menu, so sit back, relax and order something. I arrived around 7 pm and service was nearly non-existent. The busy time hadn't started yet so most of the lounge girls were just chatting with themselves and ignoring the few customers sitting there. Once 8 pm hit there were a lot of guys there and the girls were actively moving around asking guests if they wanted extra services. I got a little cutie to give me the inner thigh massage, and another to hit me up with a neck massage.

On to selection, every 30 minutes, they'll have 5 girls dancing on some second floor platform in the hot pool area, then 50+ girls will come out and line up. Chinese, Viet, Koreans, Japanese, and a few Russian / Ukrainian looking foreigners. The foreign girls were at best 7's in my book but the Asian girls ranged from 7 to near perfect 10! This place has a huge selection. I caught the eye of a cutie immediately, but decided to relax for a bit. After watching two more line ups, I finally picked her out. She was of the "Chinese model" level, around 2700 HKD. Short hair, beautiful big eyes, great smile, nice skin.

The rest is pretty standard for anyone who's been to a spa so I'll skip to the action. Great tit / pussy rub and cat bath, then on to one of the best BBBJ I've ever had. She tried to mount me at that point but I told her to wait as I knew I'd blow my load too quickly. We proceeded to kiss and neck a bit, then she mounted. After a bit of cowboy I turn her around for doggy, then flip her over for missionary. At this point she's already naturally wet and I decide to go down on her. She allows and I eat her box for a good 5 minutes while she's moaning crazy and clenching my hand so tight it almost hurts! Finally I go back in and finish her in missionary.

All in all, a great session. Not quite GFE, but close. Definitely knows her stuff and knows how to please.

If sauna prices across the city are on par with each other these days, then I highly recommend 18 Spa just for the sheer selection and excellent service. You won't be disappointed! Note YMMV. I am of Chinese descent and speak nearly fluent Mandarin, and basic Cantonese.

Good report. Chinese usually gets you better service. I used to think 18 was overrated and too expensive. You're right that prices went up in a lot of other saunas though, so now it's getting close to parity. I still think there are better options for your Patacas, but glad you enjoyed.

After my romp at 18 Sauna, I decided to book a room at the Masters Macau. For those of you who don't know this hotel, it's the perfect place to stay. It's right on the edge of Senado Square with great food options around. The rooms are cozy, well appointed, and some of the cheapest you'll find in the city. But best of all Darling 1 is located on the third floor (via a separate elevator).

Darling 1 is not a sauna. You can't spend the night there, and there is no showering or hot pool area or other services such as body scrub. It's a classic "fishbowl" style massage parlor. You go in, get your massage, then leave.

Take the Darling 1 elevator to the third floor and as soon as you step in you'll see all the girls sitting in the center for your viewing pleasure. I went up there and some rude mamasan tried to push girls on me without explaining anything. I looked them over for a few minutes then decided to go for dinner instead. She was pissed and said something vulgar as I left. I came back a few hours later and a nice gentleman sat me down and explained everything to me.

They have two price levels. Regular girls wearing heart-shaped tags are 1800 MOP for 75 min. "Model" girls wear stars and are 2120 MOP for 75 min. All come with full service and one shot. For me, the models are simply taller girls, not necessarily prettier. Viet, Thai, and Chinese girls are distinguished by the color they wear, but there is no price difference between them.

I spotted a bubbly looking heart wearing cutie in the back and went for her. Her heart color indicated she was Vietnamese (blue I think). She spoke limited English but decent Mandarin so we got along just fine.

The rooms here are enormous and far better than their sauna counterparts. Large heart shaped bed with mirrors all around and on the ceiling. Gigantic bathroom with a huge triangle shaped hot tub. Only downside is absolutely no smoking anywhere on the premises.

Not going to to go into too much detail on the service, but catbath, BBBJ, rimming, all kinds of shenanigans in the hot tub with lots of bubbles, then finally onto the FS in multiple positions until the end. Service was excellent and on par with the more expensive sauna places, just without all the extra frills. The girl really seemed to like me and gave me good GFE. I even ended up with her Wechat contact afterwards.

Girls are just a notch lower in quality than the saunas, but I think most bros won't have any problem finding someone they like here.

[QUOTE=ElChantor;2278408]The rooms here are enormous and far better than their sauna counterparts. [/QUOTE]Depends on the sauna and how much you pay. Some saunas have fantastic big beautiful rooms.

[QUOTE=ElChantor;2278408]Only downside is absolutely no smoking anywhere on the premises.[/QUOTE]Many would call that an upside. [URL]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/31/smoking-declines-around-world-countries-set-miss-targets-report/[/URL].

Good report.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2262151]Centro Massagens Elctrico Hou Va.

Rua de Ferreira do Amaral 19.

Across the part from Park Royal hotel.[/QUOTE]Found this pretty easily thanks. Went in about 2 PM, 4 Vietnamese girls available all nice looking, no English to speak of. Took the youngest looking one #203. Very slim firm body, pretty face and good attitude. Would repeat. The place is pretty run down though. 900 HK for 1 hour 1 pop.

[QUOTE=K3936;2278855]Found this pretty easily thanks. Went in about 2 PM, 4 Vietnamese girls available all nice looking, no English to speak of. Took the youngest looking one #203. Very slim firm body, pretty face and good attitude. Would repeat. The place is pretty run down though. 900 HK for 1 hour 1 pop.[/QUOTE]I remember not long ago the price was just half that. The world really is changing. Anyway, did she have baby damage? Every time I try there they unfortunately do.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2273010]............... Do they still handpick out the prettiest 9-10 girls in all these saunas and keep them away from the saunas and into the racist KTV's that only show the pretty ones to local Chinese men? And then ugly 1-5's to the foreigners such as happened to me both at Golden Dragon (18 sauna), and at 8 different changping KTV's and Bangkok KTV's? Or is the racism on retreat?[/QUOTE]You got me stumped with the Changping bit. I can't recall ever being deprived of seeing certain girls at CP KTVs; however, I was charged more than Chinese punters for similar service.

Heading to Macau tomorrow and will spend my share of time in Rio. This might be a dumb question but I read something on another site which got me confused. Are the thigh massages in the lounge to completion? Like I said, probably a dumb question but always like to know what I am getting into. Thanks.

Dove right in and got the answers I was looking for. Solid first day. Hit up the MGM and made my sauna money with some blackjack. Sauna with house money makes it so much more enjoyable. Did a few massages. The thigh massage from Shelly, can't remember her number but a real fun girl. Took her to the private room after my round with the girl I chose. Had a good time with her and always nice to not have to do any work for the second go around.

For the girl, I went with a Viet girl Yun, 917. She is 26 but looks 18. Amazing body and great attitude. Would definitely spend more time with her but so many others to choose from. I do like having opposite preferences to the Chinese clientele. All the most expensive girls they like aren't my type so keeps the price down. Took the number of a nice looking Chinese girl that I will go back for tomorrow. Got the card as well since you basically get 600 off each visit so a no brainier there. Also staying at Rio was a good choice. Plenty of offers for a late night rendezvous but quite tired from the events. Will capitalize on that before I go.

I planned on checking out some others but knowing me, when I find something I like I usually just stick with it. FN might be the only one I go for if I make it out of Rio.

Thanks for all the info on here from others, definitely RTFF before I arrived and it was quite useful.

Not much of a report I know, I don't really go crazy in the room and just let the girl do her thing. Yun was a blast though, great personality and everytime time the lineup walked past the rest of the night her and her friends kept on flirting which is always fun.

Saunas have always been my favorite form of entertainment and Rio tops the list to this point.

[QUOTE=FLT09;2281574]For the girl, I went with a Viet girl Yun, 917. She is 26 but looks 18. Amazing body and great attitude. Would definitely spend more time with her but so many others to choose from. I do like having opposite preferences to the Chinese clientele. All the most expensive girls they like aren't my type so keeps the price down. <snip> Saunas have always been my favorite form of entertainment and Rio tops the list to this point.[/QUOTE]FLT09, that's a good update on Rio. Sounds like you had a great time. Coincidently it goes hand in hand with what I posted to a Jakarta buddy about the Viet's in Macau a few days ago.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2280834]if you like Vietnamese girls, I think you would still enjoy Macau and your best bet would be to visit Darling 1 which operates like a Thai soapy massage parlor. Your 2nd best option would be to visit Rio Sauna or Familiar Nobre Sauna to check out their very large line up of Viet girls. These two bordellos are the best saunas in Macau and appropriately priced as such, BUT like I said previously, [b]the Viet's are at the lowest price point so it might be a real bargain for you Viet lovers, relatively speaking. [/b] Ha Ha.[/QUOTE]Unfortuntaley for me, I can't resist a few of the Chinese and Korean super models in Rio. They are great girls and a lot of fun in the room, but their price is stratospheric. Either way, Viet or NE Asian, stay thisty and rock on!

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2281621]Unfortuntaley for me, I can't resist a few of the Chinese and Korean super models in Rio. They are great girls and a lot of fun in the room, but their price is stratospheric. Either way, Viet or NE Asian, stay thisty and rock on![/QUOTE]There is definitely some lookers. Might splurge one of the days as I do like the tall long legged ones they have. Another successful day at MGM will make the choice easier of course haha. I have 3 more days, will definitely update with the route I take each day.

[QUOTE=FLT09;2281151]Heading to Macau tomorrow and will spend my share of time in Rio. This might be a dumb question but I read something on another site which got me confused. Are the thigh massages in the lounge to completion? Like I said, probably a dumb question but always like to know what I am getting into. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Not usually. They just keep you stimulated for the time period allotted. Some of them will finish you off if you ask though. I think it's "allowed" after the third thigh massage, or if you pay extra. But I once had a Viet I repeated with many times over a week get me off for free once. She actually dared me not to cum. I almost won until she started with some cork screw maneuvering!

Finished up the trip in good fashion. Had 4 nights and spent all of them at Rio. Walked past a number of the others while on the way to the casinos but being that Rio was the hotel I was staying at and the first night went well, I just stuck with it out of convenience. It was also pretty empty since it was Chinese New Year weekend so I had almost free reign of the place. I good see the lineup and go sit down with a list of numbers to decide and whenever I was ready the girl would be ready since no one else was there to pick them. Second and third night I went with Chinese girls, 257 and 269 respectively. 257 was cute and spoke some English. She was a nice girl and easy to get along with. However, she lacked in her shower skills. I know some don't care about that but it is why I like Saunas over escorts. I absolutely love soapy massages. Still, very pretty and a fun time. The next night I went for one of the girls that looked more experienced, 269, and I was right in my observation. She was a blast. Very skilled in every aspect of the experience and a lot of fun. She spoke a lot of English which always helps. She also asked if I wanted another go during the time for 300 more which I agreed and enjoyed. I would see all of them again but I love variety, although I would slightly regret that at the end.

The last night I went Vietnamese again, picking 919. She was newer to the sauna but very pretty, a little older but had a great smile and had been staring at me every night. She has the fake bolt ONS which I am not a fan of at all but she seemed interested so that always leads to a good experience. We get in the room and she asked if her friend good join, 918. All the Viet girls had been eyeing me and joking with me the first 3 nights and I wanted a go with each one. I asked how them perform together and she said well and she was coming off very freaky so I agree. The second girl is discounted 500. I already had a 600 discount each night by getting the card, 300, and having them pick me up in their car from a different hotel, 300. So the 2 of them was still cheaper than their model girls. 918 comes in and she is even crazier. They get a long great and I the soapy massage was the best one I have had, and I have had many. Go to the bed and they take turns on me. They play with each other a little but they focused on me. If you had the 2 of them in your hotel, it would be a wild time. If it wasn't my last night, I probably would have arranged that. After the first round, time was running short, they asked if I wanted to go again, but I just wanted to get of another shot with a BBBJ and strapping up again would take a long time, which I didn't have. 918 wasn't begging for anal but time wasn't allowing it. Finished up with them and headed back out to the lounge to relax.

3 nights I got a HJ finish as well. If you get 5 thigh massages then you go to one of the side rooms and get the finish. I did it at the end of each night so the girls definitely had to work. Had a really run girl the first night but she was gone the next 2 nights. Got a little younger and cuter girl instead who was great. Great way to relax and chat while getting a great massage. Getting the 5 massages gives you 2 hours with the girl and you can use all of the time at your leisure. Also, with the card you get 1 free massage of your choice each visit and the first visit after you visit you get an additional 4 free massages. So basically, the first trip to the room can be free.

The last night I went out of my hotel around 3 and that is when all the girls are leaving. This is a great time to see the real difference in the girls. I saw all the models after they washed off all their makeup and it is night and day, which is obvious, but with Chinese and Korean girls it really sticks in the back of your head when seeing them in the lineups. They are a lot older most of the time and tend to be more mechanical. I spent a lot of time in Korea so those type of girls don't interest me. After I saw them, a few of the Viet girls left, including 917 the girl from the first night. This is where the regret crept in. She was in her normal clothes and was absolutely stunning. Looked even better on the street than in the sauna all dressed up. Made me wish I went another night with her and exchanged some information. She was always the best looking to me in the lineup, but I can't help myself being a butterfly.

All in all, great getaway. I went for a relaxing weekend of gambling and sauanas and that was accomplished. My feet feel great from all the foot massages which were much needed given the amount I walk in dress shoes. I know some people talk about the price increases and what not and how it is getting expensive but I think the price is fine. I had a lot of fun each night and the most I spent, which was the last night with 2 girls, was under 5000 hkd. Most places aren't PI and Thai where prices are low, and exceed what they are in these saunas. I much rather spend 3000 hkd for massages and a room girl with the relaxing and food then the same or more you spend for girls in most places to come to your hotel for a quick in and out session. Also, the girls at these places get much higher prices for less service in places like China and Korea. This will be a go to for me now for short weekend getaways for sure.

I'm very curious about Macau, my buddy is visiting me in the Philippine and we decided to check another place out. I knew nothing about Macau but he mentioned it and it seems like a place I will like. We will be staying at Rio, but curiosity has me wondering 1. Why don't many people post about this place? And 2. Wouldn't it being legal drive prices down and I would think girls working in casinos would be the most popular thing to do. Considering how many hookers are working the casino's in vegas which is illegal I figure it will be a lot more working there. Or is the something I am missing? I do realize it is a little pricey compared to some areas, but just wondering is all options available or is it really Sauna or nothing? Any websites with freelancers or anything?

[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2301704]I'm very curious about Macau, my buddy is visiting me in the Philippine and we decided to check another place out. I knew nothing about Macau but he mentioned it and it seems like a place I will like. We will be staying at Rio, but curiosity has me wondering 1. Why don't many people post about this place? And 2. Wouldn't it being legal drive prices down and I would think girls working in casinos would be the most popular thing to do. Considering how many hookers are working the casino's in vegas which is illegal I figure it will be a lot more working there. Or is the something I am missing? I do realize it is a little pricey compared to some areas, but just wondering is all options available or is it really Sauna or nothing? Any websites with freelancers or anything?[/QUOTE]MadisonGuy, Macau and Vegas are very different places. Sadly, I think you are a few year's late if you are looking for hot FL talent in Macau casinos. Without going into a lot of history, try a Google search for the Lisboa Race Track or Lion's Bar, MGM Macau. Great, great pick up places of yore.

Today the Macau Casinos frown on FL's so they are rarely seen inside any of the casinos although you might occasionally spot one in and amongst the slot machines. Good luck on that. Ha Ha. You will need it.

So currently the best source for FL's is WeChat or [URL]141.com[/URL]. You can find some real hotties there. And at the low end, there are still plenty of SW's roaming around if you know where to look, but they are fairly fugly IMHO and not particularly cheap. I wouldn't waste my time or money on them.

So, where does that leave a discerning international punter? It leaves one with the Saunas where you will find some of the best Chinese & Korean talent available in SE Asia. No exaggeration. Thus, if you are planning to visit Macau, I say know in advance it is going to be very expensive and if you still want to go, do it right and hit the Saunas. Don't hold back and try to conserve your money, always choose the most attractive girls in the various sauna lineups.

Note: If you don't think Chinese or Korean "super" models are worth the price, then don't visit. Stay in the PI or visit Jakarta. For example, Manila has many great girls and they offer Filipina GFE which is very nice. I love Filipinas. The Chinese, Korean, and Viet Macau sauna girls, on the other hand, will stick their tongues up your ass hole as far as it will go, perform multiple fire & ice BJ's per session, shag you in any position you can think of (no anal), and they look really hot!

So, ponder this conundrum: A sexy Burgos bar girl (top of the line) will run you approx. $135 give or take depending on the bar and her popularity vs. A Chinese or Korean Macau sauna girl (top of the line) that will cost $350 to $425 and you decide. All I know is I had a great time on my last visit in November which capped off an amazing 10.5-week swing thru LOS, Yangon, Jakarta, and Singapore. My two Rio Chinese "super" models rate very high on my 2018 hit list as does my sexy Singapore Familia Nobre girl, but so does my favorite super-hot Pattaya Go Go girl, my BKK RB4 Atomic Blond (maybe my favorite new girl of 2018), several of my Jakarta Bordello girls, and last but not least, my sweet, skinny Yangon FL all of which cost a fraction of my Rio and FN sauna girls. Like I said, I spent a small fortune in Macau. Was it worth it? Hell Yeah! LOL. And not really. But I am glad I went and had a great time.

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. " ― George Best.

So, if you decide to go to Macau, go to the best saunas (Rio &, Familia Nobre), pick the best-looking sauna girls, don't hold back, do two girls a night if you feel like it, and have a great time! And report back.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2301722]MadisonGuy, Macau and Vegas are very different places. Sadly, I think you are a few year's late if you are looking for hot FL talent in Macau casinos. Without going into a lot of history, try a Google search for the Lisboa Race Track or Lion's Bar, MGM Macau. Great, great pick up places of yore.

Today the Macau Casinos frown on FL's so they are rarely seen inside any of the casinos although you might occasionally spot one in and amongst the slot machines. Good luck on that. Ha Ha. You will need it.

So currently the best source for FL's is WeChat or [URL]141.com[/URL]. You can find some real hotties there. And at the low end, there are still plenty of SW's roaming around if you know where to look, but they are fairly fugly IMHO and not particularly cheap. I wouldn't waste my time or money on them.

So, where does that leave a discerning international punter? It leaves one with the Saunas where you will find some of the best Chinese & Korean talent available in SE Asia. No exaggeration. Thus, if you are planning to visit Macau, I say know in advance it is going to be very expensive and if you still want to go, do it right and hit the Saunas. Don't hold back and try to conserve your money, always choose the most attractive girls in the various sauna lineups.

Note: If you don't think Chinese or Korean "super" models are worth the price, then don't visit. Stay in the PI or visit Jakarta. For example, Manila has many great girls and they offer Filipina GFE which is very nice. I love Filipinas. The Chinese, Korean, and Viet Macau sauna girls, on the other hand, will stick their tongues up your ass hole as far as it will go, perform multiple fire & ice BJ's per session, shag you in any position you can think of (no anal), and they look really hot!

So, ponder this conundrum: A sexy Burgos bar girl (top of the line) will run you approx. $135 give or take depending on the bar and her popularity vs. A Chinese or Korean Macau sauna girl (top of the line) that will cost $350 to $425 and you decide. All I know is I had a great time on my last visit in November which capped off an amazing 10.5-week swing thru LOS, Yangon, Jakarta, and Singapore. My two Rio Chinese "super" models rate very high on my 2018 hit list as does my sexy Singapore Familia Nobre girl, but so does my favorite super-hot Pattaya Go Go girl, my BKK RB4 Atomic Blond (maybe my favorite new girl of 2018), several of my Jakarta Bordello girls, and last but not least, my sweet, skinny Yangon FL all of which cost a fraction of my Rio and FN sauna girls. Like I said, I spent a small fortune in Macau. Was it worth it? Hell Yeah! LOL. And not really. But I am glad I went and had a great time.

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. " ― George Best.

So, if you decide to go to Macau, go to the best saunas (Rio &, Familia Nobre), pick the best-looking sauna girls, don't hold back, do two girls a night if you feel like it, and have a great time! And report back.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Holding back has never been my problem. I'm really hoping to get a Russian, I'll be in philippines for a month so it would be a nice change of pace. Definitely doing sauna, I like day and night action. My buddy and I will want some arm candy at the casino. Seeking doesn't seem to be that great in that area I will try the sites you listed for non sauna time.

[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2302025]Thanks man. Holding back has never been my problem. I'm really hoping to get a Russian, <snip> Definitely doing sauna [/QUOTE]
While I normally have zero interest in Caucasian girls while touring Asia, there was this Ukrainian head turner I saw in Familia Nobre back in November. She was nothing short of amazing. Tall, blond, thin, with well-endowed natural ta ta's combined with a beautiful face and a warm, demure smile. I was sorely tempted. Hell, I still think about that one - the one girl I let slip away. Ha Ha.

I don't know if she is still there in Macau, but it would be worth a look/see to find out and if she is still in the lineup, you can't miss her. She is such a stand out being as good looking and attractive as some of the sexiest MetArt and MPL internet soft porn models. Bing search "mpl Danica" for example and see the quality level I am talking about ie Model Quality!

So I just wanted to post my disappointing experience. I was in Macau for 2 nights. I was there with wifey and 3 kids. Got a fairly good deal at the Wynn Macau side, in the Encore actually. Anyways the 2nd night there, I wanted sneak away to experience a fishbowl. Told her I was going to gamble after the kids went sleep. I end up catching a taxi downstairs in front MGM. I told Darling 1, Masters hotel. As we are driving he tells me all the saunas have been raided and shut down for the time being. Only one is open, thought he was bullshitting, but whatever. He takes me to this spot, crowded as fuck outside. Walk in and reminds me of strip club, mama says you want 2400 $ girl or 3200 $, I say 2400 hun. I like see girls too I say. As walk through, it was strip club like with stages and poles, and booth seating where girls were sitting with customers. There wasn't one Chinese hooker, I asked mamasan she say no more. All I see is mainly white and few black. I decide to leave and take taxi back.

I gamble at MGM playing craps (which have different rules BTW, frigging hilarious IMO). Then I think to myself that taxi guy was probably full of shit about police crackdown. Catch another taxi and him deliver me to Darling 1. We pull up to Masters Hotel side entrance and speaks to guy there outside who appears to work there in Chinese. And he seems to confirm they got shut down, as well as darling 2. Supposedly all the big name ones shut down at the time. The taxi was going to take be back MGM but he stops at Hotel Fortuna. Mamasan in front of hotel takes me and escorts me up elevator to sauna inside. At reception the manager type fella says only older lady available. I bail and walk back across street to the Wynn.

Ended up super disappointed, but woke the wifey up and gave her the good frustration fuk haha. I'm from Hawaii BTW, mixed nats, tanned skin. Maybe they was just hating on me IDK. But I did find in Asia times that they busted 150 something people at a few places for sex trafficking in Macau around a day or too before we arrived.

I would recommend trying Familia Nobre for their foreign talent. I spent two days in Macau a month back and whilst I had a blast with a Viet spinner at Rio, Familia Nobre had a few eastern European girls I today regret not going for. Why would one go for a Caucasian beauty in this region of the world right? That was my first reaction yet in retrospect, I regret not footing the bill for one of those gals.

Don't be there too early however -I'd say not before 10 ish.

On a side note, the cute Viet suggested we catch up outside of the sauna and she'd be glad to spend the night at my hotel (she precised she just arrived. Go figure). Since we had nothing to write her number on, she made me learn it by heart LOL.

Can't wait to go back to Macau.

Stay safe and enjoy!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2302025]Thanks man. Holding back has never been my problem. I'm really hoping to get a Russian, I'll be in philippines for a month so it would be a nice change of pace. Definitely doing sauna, I like day and night action. My buddy and I will want some arm candy at the casino. Seeking doesn't seem to be that great in that area I will try the sites you listed for non sauna time.[/QUOTE]

I recently visited Darling 2.

I see lots of reports written here about Darling 1 but none on Darling 2, so thought I'd add my experience.

I was in Macau for a day trip. I realize that the lineups are probably better at night, but that was not an option for me.

I visited three saunas before making my choice.

First, I visited Hou Va. The prices seem to have gone up from what is reported elsewhere in this forum. Currently is 850 for regular, and 1088 for "models". There were 4 girls when I visited around 3 pm. Most were 5's. One "model" was a 6 or 7. I did not partake.

Next, I visited Darling 1 at about 4 pm. Prices were the same as reported elsewhere in this form. 1800 for regular, and 2100 for "models". There were about 6-8 girls. Mostly 5-6's, none of them above a 7. I left disappointed.

Finally, I visited Darling 2 at about 5 pm. Prices are significantly lower than Darling 1. 1398 for regular, and 1800 for two girls, or for one model. More importantly, the girls at Darling 2 were hot. Way hotter than at Darling 1. There were 8-10 girls in the fishbowl, and they were all at least 7's, with several 8-9's. I had a hard time deciding, but eventually chose a young looking girl (number 178), who in my book was a 9, and priced in the regular category.

Number 178 was very pretty. A near perfect face, looks 18, her stated age 25, and a sweet, sexy, slim body with a trimmed kitty, bubble butt, and perky, natural be cups. We communicated in Chinese.

She gave me a cat bath, BBBJ, some breast licking and pussy fingering, and fucked in mish and cowgirl. It was hard to keep from coming fast.

I was in and out the door in 45 minutes. She was very friendly through the catbath, but when it came to fucking she seemed to be not that into it, and seemed to be glad when it was over. I wish she'd been a little more into it, but I don't blame her too much. I still got what I was looking for, and enjoying fucking this beautiful young piece of ass. She asked for a tip and I gave her 100.

My first time in a Macau sauna. A lot more expensive than I used to pay for similar or better service in mainland China, but then in 2019 the sex saunas in mainland China are pretty much all shut down. More expensive than the 141 walkups in Hong Kong, but I like the the fishbowl style and am willing to pay more for it, and also the girls were hotter than most of the Hong Kong 141 girls I've seen. More expensive than the fishbowl girls in Thailand as well, but again the girls were also much hotter.

Darling 1 maybe has a better selection of hot girls at nighttime, but the price at Darling 2 is much better. Some of the girls in the fishbowl were giving me bigger smiles than 178, so maybe if I'd chosen different I would have gotten more mileage.

Anyway, I was happy with the fuck, and would recommend Darling 2 to others.

Before flying to Europe I wanted to have a nice time in Macau.

Arrived from shekou by ferry at 14:45.

Checked in to HKIA ferry at 19:45 and left my bag at the ferry counter for free.

10 min walk to Dragon hotel.

Sauna 18: Know it well, it is an easy choice for me bc it is close to ferry terminal.

As I arrive without voucher or membership card at S18, staff always try to sell membership card to me; I never bought one.

S18:

Enter it, go for a shower, select service from pool ladies (today; Body scrap in the open canbanas, or washing (inclding ball crawling) at the pools.

I went for 3-times sauna and cold water bassin.

BTW: S18 offers a real sauna ( 90°C), have seen this only at boss sauna.

S18: Pool girls showy ou their backs and sometimes a smile.

Watching a lineup from the sauna brings you watching 20 nice backsides.

Finally choosed a gil.

Standard procedure from entering backstage to walking to FS room.

It was now the 5 (th in row that I had a girl speaking some English.

Very nice session, no standard, #757 went with the flow as I dd.

I miss the blowjob in the body scrub cabin or the shower. A real pity that management is strict on this.

Had an excellent time, had a 10 k walk afterwards, went for HKIA, had good beer.

Overall: Excellent way to leave China via HKIA.

[QUOTE=RagingRabbit14;2312443]Next, I visited Darling 1 at about 4 pm. Prices were the same as reported elsewhere in this form. 1800 for regular, and 2100 for "models". There were about 6-8 girls. Mostly 5-6's, none of them above a 7. I left disappointed.[/QUOTE]By the way, Darling 1 discounts the price by around $300 if you show up during off hours, which I think may be approx 1 am to 11 am. Selection is not as good during these hours but still good.

Is there a base entry fee just for entry at saunas? Or are the only fees for services you buy?

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls;2323559]Is there a base entry fee just for entry at saunas? Or are the only fees for services you buy?[/QUOTE]There IS an entry fee which is however waived if you took a girl for FS.

Hi All -.

Is DFK standard service at saunas?

The reviews always mention BBBJ but most don't mention DFK.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls;2329701]Hi All -.

Is DFK standard service at saunas?

The reviews always mention BBBJ but most don't mention DFK.[/QUOTE]I never get a DFK in a saunas!

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls;2329701]Hi All -.

Is DFK standard service at saunas?

The reviews always mention BBBJ but most don't mention DFK.[/QUOTE]Definitely not part of standard service.

What is the uniform color code at Eighteen sauna?

Red = Mainland China?

Etc.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2301722]MadisonGuy, Macau and Vegas are very different places. Sadly, I think you are a few year's late if you are looking for hot FL talent in Macau casinos. Without going into a lot of history, try a Google search for the Lisboa Race Track or Lion's Bar, MGM Macau. Great, great pick up places of yore.

Today the Macau Casinos frown on FL's so they are rarely seen inside any of the casinos although you might occasionally spot one in and amongst the slot machines. Good luck on that. Ha Ha. You will need it.

So currently the best source for FL's is WeChat or [URL]141.com[/URL]. You can find some real hotties there. And at the low end, there are still plenty of SW's roaming around if you know where to look, but they are fairly fugly IMHO and not particularly cheap. I wouldn't waste my time or money on them.

So, where does that leave a discerning international punter? It leaves one with the Saunas where you will find some of the best Chinese & Korean talent available in SE Asia. No exaggeration. Thus, if you are planning to visit Macau, I say know in advance it is going to be very expensive and if you still want to go, do it right and hit the Saunas. Don't hold back and try to conserve your money, always choose the most attractive girls in the various sauna lineups.[/QUOTE]I have some questions about Rio.

1. Is MSOG allowed, or is there an extra fee per extra shot?

2. How much time is given for each girl?

3. Can you just lounge around the area and eat after you're done? Do they kick you out if you haven't purchased a service in x minutes?

4. For Rio specifically, is there any cons for staying at the hotel? It's seems pretty affordable (in the grand scheme of paying 2400 MOP for P2P) and gives shuttle service from the port, but I see a lot of posts mention that they take taxis there.

5. Can you charge by credit card so I don't have to exchange for cash?

1. for all girls other than 600 series, price is based on 1 shot. 2nd session is discounted 500 MOP. For 600 series girls price quoted is for 2 shots per session.

2. 45 minutes is standard. 600 series girls allow 60 minutes.

3. you can lounge around for as long as you want after you are done with a session. You can go upstairs and sleep overnight in one of the sleeping rooms near the desk at the top of the stairs. If you haven't purchased a service at all for the night you will be reminded but not overly pressured. Last showtime is sometime around 2 am. There is an entrance fee of around 1100 MOP if you do not take a girl.

4. never stayed at rio but it seems like a decent 4 star hotel. Elevators are small and slow. I prefer to stay on the cotai strip.

5. yes can pay with credit card.

[QUOTE=Analinvaeder;2334048]I have some questions about Rio.

1. Is MSOG allowed, or is there an extra fee per extra shot?

2. How much time is given for each girl?

3. Can you just lounge around the area and eat after you're done? Do they kick you out if you haven't purchased a service in x minutes?

4. For Rio specifically, is there any cons for staying at the hotel? It's seems pretty affordable (in the grand scheme of paying 2400 MOP for P2P) and gives shuttle service from the port, but I see a lot of posts mention that they take taxis there.

5. Can you charge by credit card so I don't have to exchange for cash?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Analinvaeder;2334048]I have some questions about Rio.

1. Is MSOG allowed, or is there an extra fee per extra shot?

2. How much time is given for each girl?

3. Can you just lounge around the area and eat after you're done? Do they kick you out if you haven't purchased a service in x minutes?

4. For Rio specifically, is there any cons for staying at the hotel? It's seems pretty affordable (in the grand scheme of paying 2400 MOP for P2P) and gives shuttle service from the port, but I see a lot of posts mention that they take taxis there.

5. Can you charge by credit card so I don't have to exchange for cash?[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with Rio but it's in a boring area. Sheraton Cotai has good rates too and is a much nicer hotel. Macau is small and easy to get around esp if you know how to work the various casino shuttle buses. Why credit cards? No one thinks in MOPs, just use yr HK dollars. Better still, if you're coming via the ferry, buy the sauna voucher.

After doing a lot of research, I'm interested in the concept of "leg massage" as it seems as it's a cost effective way of getting some touching, though clearly not FS. Is there anywhere members can recommend for this? Also, anywhere that won't break the bank for just a BBBJ (CIM optional)? I'm most likely doing a day trip to Macau while staying in HK, so I'm not looking for a spa to spend all day at.

Thanks in advance.

Prices in Macau seem to be insanely high when it comes to sauna experiences. I stayed at the Rio but when they told me how much it was I thought that no provider can be so good that this price is justified. I don't need the facilities, pools, etc. I need girls and a room and good service. So after doing some RTFF, I went to Darling 2 by taxi. According to my little market research, it is supposed to be one of the more affordable ones. The word cheap does not come over my lips in Macau. Inside, there were about 20 girls in the fishbowl, all from Vietnam. In average quite pretty. I hoped for some Chinese pussy because since the crackdowns in China I find it difficult to fuck nice young Chinese pussies. But OK, the Vietnamese also have light skin and fine looks. So I chose a slim, young one with a pretty face. Price per girl is 1.360 MOP or the same in HKD for a session of 70 minutes. We went to the room which are nice with a big bed and huge bathtub. She got naked while the bathtub was getting full and already liked me a bit when she asked whether I want to have two girls. The second one is MOP / HKD 550 and joins the full session. I agreed, the first threesome in my life and another think I can check off from my bucket list. Girl #2 came in, she was tall and slim. Her services were well performed but her attitude was not as good as the one of girl #1. There was sometimes something strange in her eyes and comments. Never mind, excellent BJ session with both girls in the tub, and on the bed both girls were very willing to be fucked in any position. When I fucked one, the other immediately started to lick me, play with my balls and ass or ears. Having a threesome looks good in the mirrors but in reality the second girl can also be a kind of distraction. And some time gets lost with changing the condoms when switching from one girl to the other. All in all a very satisfactory 70 minutes session with two beautiful and easygoing girls.

In case that I would repeat the threesome again, I would ask for it at the fishbowl and choose the second girl by myself. After the session girl #2 ask for tips white pushy. I gave 60 HKD each because the situation was strange. Normally I never tip. Perhaps some taxi money for an outcall, but that's it. All in all I think this is a good option in Macau, both price-wise and performance-wise. The threesome is not a must. It is a pity that they do not have Chinese girls but the overall performance, especially of girl #1, was very good. However, as you know, it does not even come close to the original Shanghai sauna experience. But I think also the Macau hotel saunas do not come close to that, as far as I learnt from the other posts.

Later in the evening I have seen some (Vietnamese) hookers in the Holiday Inn casino, near to the Rio Hotel. They were standing in groups between the Baccarat tables and were obviously not interested in the game. I did not ask for prices since they did not actively search eye contact or anything. I guess they waited for the some rich Chinese guys and not a "poor" Western guy. Perhaps I would have approached them if I had not already have a threesome two hours before.