Panama City

[QUOTE=GauntMan]I respect your opinion bro, but just for general knowledge, the carnival in Panama is the 3rd best worldwide

1. Brazil
2. New Orleans
3. Panama[/QUOTE]


Carnival in New Orleans number 2 in the world? hahahahahahahaha

A day of both highs and lows. Had a couple of hours of sleep and then started the drive to the airport. Since I started driving at 3am, had the road to myself and had no delays enroute to an airport named after a former SecState (or his brother, a certain CIA chief, can´t remember which). It was almost 5am when I got to the parking lot, and with the windchill, it was 22 degrees. The ten minute wait for a bus was not fun. I checked in NO bags (learned that lesson the hard way years ago) and got on the security line. Only had time to finish half my breakfast before getting to the panty-sniffing loosers that is the TSA (who are these pathetic zeros? The people that could not master numbers and the alphabet, and therefor flunked the postal service exam? They were too rude for the DMV? The standards for private security guards were too high?) so I had to leave half my breakfast behind because that yogurt was SUCH a threat. I wore my buckle-less belt so that got me through a little quicker.

Ran to get on the plane, got one of the last seats, but it was still late getting out. At least I got an exit row, but it was near a daddy and his kids. He was midly retarded, had a loud voice, and did not shut up the whole flight. Ear plugs and a noise cancelling headset allowed me to get some sleep. Got to miami. Two hours to kill. The gate wasn´t near any good restaurants, so I got a guava pastel and a beef empenada from the Versaille stand. The Versaille cuban restaurant chain is a legend in Miami, deservedly so, but while the pastel was good, the empenada just added to my torture. The plane had three different mechanical problems, so we did not depart until 2pm. So instead of getting to PTY at 2pm, I got there a 4pm plus.

Fortunately, I followed some advice posted here and ran ahead of the herd to get to the Visa stand with exact change. There were two guys ahead of me, but they did not have fives or tens, so the guy sold me one first, to have change for them. Wasnt sure I would need it, because my civvy blue passport was expired and I was going to try using my brown passport. Had a Mindight Express moment while the lady at the immigration stand figured out what the procedure was. She asked the guy in the next stand, told me I could get a refund on my tourist card and whipped out the stamp. (I gotta renew that passport, man!) Took another bit of advice from this site and went upstairs to catch my cab. Saved five bucks, got into a nice, new Yaris - cute cars, by the way, and only 13k in both PTY and the states - and enjoyed the airconditioning and the use of the drivers phone while we zipped to my hotel. There was a demonstration just half a block from Eurohotel, so the cops only let us come with 20 yards. Close enough for me.

Check in was fast, the Expedia reservation worked out fine. Dont know why some harsh on this place. It is basically a Motel 6 with a pool, internet in the lobby, and an attached restaurant. My room wasnt by the street, but its window were frosted because it was by the garage. Quiet enough. Air Con works, but the staff will turn it off if you leave for a while. TV, no clock radio, soap yes, shampoo sometimes. It is on Via Espana, a 12 minute walk to Via Venetto, or a buck and quarter taxi ride.

Called my little Indian, formerly of Relax Oriental, but now freelancing with a friend. She said she´d come by at 7 pm. I unpacked, walked around outside. Found a chinese laundromat and a pharmacy. Paid almost $18 for some vitamin Cialis, I´m sure it is still amost $14 at Arroche, so I´ll correct that tomorrow. Little Kuna girl didn´t show at 7, so I called her. She promised to come by at 10pm, cause her freelancing partner (and maybe some others) wanted her to come with. Walked to Via Venetto, had some fries, steak, salad at the food court. Checked out the talent at Habanos, saw the sprite-like Columbian blonde spinner named Pamela. (If you see her, complement her on her muscles. She is very proud of spending two hours in the gym when she get off work in the morning. 22, but she looks 18. You can even overlook her silicone implants.)

Went back to the hotel. 10 pm comes by. Still no Kunita. More excuses. She will come at midnight. Midnight comes, I cant reach her cell phone. I fell asleep. to be continued.

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I will be staying at Intercontinental.

Are there mongering places within walking distance.

Suri, the sexy but very flighty Kuna formerly of Relax Oriental MP, didn´t show at midnight as promised. I called and when I couldn´t reach her, the toll of the last 24 hours caught up to me and I fell asleep. At about three and a half hours later, my phone rang. It was her and she was in the lobby. Nice!

I opened the door looked down the hall and hear her little high heeled feet tapping as she walked down the hallway.

She apologized for being so late, but her girlfriends had kept her out all night.
She was renting a room in an apartment, but when the owners, a couple with kids, figured out she was a SW, they kicked her out. She owed them January and half of February´s rent, $250, and she was hoping to earn a little with her friends that night, and little with me, in order to pay them off on Friday morning. If she didn´t, they would keep her stuff. Sounds plausible. She didn´t earn anything that night, so she was worried. I assured her I could help.

She looked great, wearing these silvery toned blue jeans and complementing top. Less eye makeup than when she worked at Relax Oriental, which was a good thing. She took off her jeans and got into bed. We got caught up and then started kissing. She started me up with one of her great bbbj´s and she asked if she could finish me off that way. I declined. I took the rest of her clothes, noticed that there was a nice bed-level mirror, sat on ankles, and then asked her to sit on my lap facing the mirror. I had a great view as I bit her neck, licked her ear, tweaked her nips, and rubbed her snatch. With my dick between her legs, she started to use it to rub her clit. She got real wet and after a few minutes, it was time for modified mish. We did that and side-to-side for a while, and she came when she faced me and sat in my lap. I asked her to finish me off with her mouth. She lay on the bed and I crouched over her, and her mouth and hands had me glazing her chin like a jelly donought. But I wasn´t finished yet, as less than a minute later, I was able to give her a pearl necklace that reached to her tits. Amazing, but after a two week drought, I was able to leave thick stuff on her chin, and Peter North style ropes on her neck and chin. Must of left four ounces on her.

By then, it was 530am, so it was a shower, some cuddling, and sleep....until a little after 715am, when her landlord started bugging her about the rent.

Suri and I had arranged $700 and all expenses if she would be my novia for the week, so I gave her $200 so she could pay her landlord and come right back.

Which she never did. Still sleep deprived, I woke up after around 1pm. I tried calling her, no luck. I showered and changed. Made a few phone calls. Realizing Suri might not come back, I decided to hit the Oasis for the lunch special. Barely got there in time, as I had to make small change and find a cab. Fortunately, there were five girls on duty, but one was already in the back. There were the three V-girls. Valentina (who is the only with pictures on their website nowadays), Valerie (of the beautiful bubble butt), and Vanessa (who has coppertone skin and lightened brown hair). Vanessa was in the back already, and in chosing between Valentina and Valerie, I was intrigued at how Valentina had gone back to being a brunette since the picture shoot.

I won´t describe Valentina, since her pictures are pretty accurate, except to say that her small natural breasts have the most perfect nipples. She said she was 20 yo, a Paisa from Cali. She didn´t have such a thick accent as Gloria, the other Paisa at Oasis. She annoyed me at first, turning on the TV, so she could massage my back while watched her favorite show, but once that was over, I got her to change to music videos. (She was sensative about covering up our noise). With her full attention while she massaged my front, I asked her for a BBBJ, but no luck. (I´ve never gotten an Oasis girl to give me a BBBJ) And...curses!...I forgot to bring a femidom! (I discovered femi-doms a few years a go and never went back.) Well, she had gotten me pretty stiff with her hand and by telling me how she lost her virginity in Cali when she was 15 (!) and her boyfriend was 21 (!) and how he taught her to give BJ´s. She wiped the lotion off, put a glove on, and started giving me one. She didn´t do it very long, before she laid out a towel on the bed like a landing strip, and laid down. I love the mirrors in the better rooms of the Oasis, especially the ceiling mount for intercourse and the wall mount for oral. Despite the conventional glove and my exhaustion, watching her perfect nipples bounce (I begged never to get implants like Gloria and she swore she never would) and her hand furiously working her clit, I got off pretty nicely.

Afterwards, I sat in the waiting room a few minutes, saw the Valeri in profile and discovered her beautiful bubble butt, saw Vanessa come out and grooved on her sultry good looks, and made a point of coming back for the rest of the V-girls.

Hungy and dehydrated, I bought a liter of juice and a fruit salad at a mini-market for $2, bought a pair of $1.99 sandwiches at Subway and refueled.

The gym near Oasis was closed, and that was bummer. I will need to find somewhere else to work out.

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Just returned from my first trip to PC. I kept it very simple:

Habano's cigar bar opposite Marriott 9 pm to 2 am except Sundays. Easy ST pick up for $100. Then La Bodeguita dance club/bar at Cl. Uruguay 11 pm to 4 am. All freelancers. My guideline for TLN: same $100 with rare panamenas and $150-$200 with colombianas.

Would like to thank every previous forum contributor that helped me to plan a great trip.

[QUOTE=Pepe27]I will be staying at Intercontinental.

Are there mongering places within walking distance.[/QUOTE]Nothing in downtown PTY is more than a $2.00 cab ride. The city center is basically a 7 mile by 7 mile square. I usually pay $1.25, like the locals, to get around, and that is good for a mile, mile and half trip. Go to this site, click on the map.

[url]http://www.miramarpanama.com/en-ubicacion.php[/url]

You will be down by the water. If you look north and east you will see Via Espana. That is your ¨hand rail¨, to borrow a land navigation term. You want the corner of Via Espana and Via Venetto. Another landmark is the Iglesia Del Carmen. Those landmarks will put you within a block or two of Capri Club, Oasis, Habanos, Elite, the big casinos, and within 5 blocks of River Club and Relax Oriental. Your hotel can´t be more than a mile and half from Venetto hotel or even La Bodeguita night club. You will need a taxi to get to GT, Miami Club, and La Mayor.

If it is a cool night, and you have a wingman, you could walk. But only if your time is worth more than $2.00. But be sure to ask the driver first. This morning, I had a cabbie try to tell me that a trip from Hotel Montreal to Venetto was $2.00., when I had taken that same run half a dozen times for $1.25.

When are you getting in town?

the rest of friday was pretty sedate. after "lunch" at oasis, followed by lunch, i took a nap, ran some errands. the unreliable suri was playing her games again. after she no-showed for dinner, i decided to eat stag. there was a very nice, very cozy arab restaurant next to habanos, but it closed last year. however, it may have moved or been replaced by one down the block. this one is bigger, noisier. the charm of the old one was that, on a cool night, you could order your meal, eat on the porch, and watch the colombian robo-hos on the porch of habanos. if you didn't want to, you could always get a seat in the air conditioned inside.

going on a friday night, when the locals come to entertain guests or impress their girlfriends, and the club puts on a belly dance show to some very loud music was a recipe for disaster. i couldn't get a seat inside, it was hot and muggy, and the service was awful. if their taboule salad, fried kibbe, and stuffed grape leaves wasn't so good. i enjoyed the food, but did not leave a tip.

anyway, this is about saturday. i woke up in time to go back to oasis in time for the lunch special. the three "v for victory girls" were not there this time. valentina normally works days (which might explain her crummy attitude during yesterday's day shift), and valerie and vanessa work monday through friday.

there were four girls on duty saturday morning. a milf with blonde hair from a bottle, the one daytime girl with the big eye brows, another who was pretty unremarkable. and kathy. kathy reminded me of a track star. she was black with beautiful features. she had this elegant nose, like michelle nichols (lt uhura of star trek), nice hair, the most flawless skin. she was about 5'6" and 105 lbs. yes, 105 lbs of the most toned muscles i have ever seen. not real curvy, tiny a-cups (if that), but just enough shape to suggest college girl olympic hopeful (swimming, maybe) or aerobics instructor. or maybe one of those background dancers they use in the rap videos. her red bathing suit get-up was small and looked more like bandages on her slim body. reminded me of a black version of mila johavich in "the third element".

when we got to the room, she was all business. no smiles during the whole session from her. panamanian, 22 years old, dress size 1 or 2, was all i could get from her. well, she did admit that she used to work out. "weight lifting? aerobics? " i asked. "a little of everything. " we didn't get the best room, but we got the second best room, which also had a shower and tv set. after throwing some interesting dvd on the player, i discovered that someone had moved the bed over so that it wasn't in the optimum location under the ceiling mirror, which caused some adjusting. after lotioning up my joint, she refused my femi-dom and a bbbj (someday, someday i'll get a bbbj at oasis! ). still, it was all good, cause with me on my back, she picked her favorite postion, which was cowgirl.

let me tell you, i could put both my hands around her waist and my thumbs and index fingers could touch, so watching that tight, flat stomach of hers undulating like a snake while she rolled, rocked, and pivoted on my crotch was a treat. she could have been a model for the abdominizer! the mirror on the wall gave me a great view of her lovely butt. unfortunately, she had some tats: one was burning heart with a scroll left black for a name which covered up a apendicitis scar, one of the others was a "tramp stamp" over the butt, which while it was small was a cliche playboy bunny logo.

anyway, letting her chose the first position allowed her to enjoy the ride for a while, which was good because it allowed me to sample those tasty little nips of hers, and because of her clock-watcher agenda. we went to side-to-side, which is great with a ceiling mirror. when the condom broke, it put a temporary stop to the action, further foiling her from depriving me of my full hour. when she came back she insisted we go right to the position that would get me off.

afterwards, she didn't ask for a tip, but since i might want a return engagement i overed one, which she took laconically. upon coming out, i sat in the waiting room and enjoyed the afterglow. i realized how little business they were doing.

eight semi-drunken americans in matching t-shirts showed up. they were in panama to have a bachelor party weekend with their friend. they had beers and seemed confused on the ground rules. i don't know if oasis called up reinforcements but they didn't seem too game. (to be continued)

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After leaving Oasis that afternoon, got a three dollar haircut. Funny, one barber shop had two barbers but there were 6 guys in line, but the place catty-corner across the street had just one and no waiting. Same price. With a name like "King of Kings", how could I go wrong. Wasn´t disappointed with the results.

Picked up my laundry. Like all laundramats and small grocery stores, it was Chinese owned. But like almost all Panamanian small businesses, low on customer service. (but it was across the street from my hotel) I dropped it off in the morning. I had a choice of either running it through the washer for 50 cents, and running it through the dryer for a dollar, but I asked her how much for them to do it. The reply was 2.50, ready by 5pm. I countered offered, with 4pm. She said 5pm again I insisted on 4pm. She knew better, cause I got there after 5pm and it was washed, and dried, but in a basket unfolded. She was eating her dinner of rice, fish, bok choy, and chicker out of a metal bowl and metal chopsticks, which I thought was weird, because thin metal chopsticks are more of a Korean custom. She called the sweaty Panamanian help who divided his attention between folding my clothes and watching the soccer game. Ah, and the locals wonder why they aren´t as prosperous as Singapore. :-) After all, Singapore has a port, Panama has the canal....OK, so those Singaporeans work hard, and keep their streets clean, and have a functioning legal and justice system, but that's no reason for them to run circles around Panama. After all, Panama has Ruben Blades!

Anyway, I called my Plan B, the former Perla of River Club (she quit after there was parlor invasion robbery of that place and the owner gypped her out some back pay) and now Miami Club dancer. She caught a cold a few days ago, but was gettin over it. Wasn't working that night, but was spending the night with her family. (Mom and lots of brothers and sisters.)
She promised to call me back by 1130, before I went to sleep. Good back up if Suri doesn't show.

Later, my Kunita called and she promised to show by 8pm. She had seen several apartments and struck a deal with one around 6 pm. Her stuff was with a friend who agreed to help her move in. She was coming down with a cold, so no partying with her friends tonight, so, I was hopefull she would really come by for dinner. I was in the lobby using the internet when she came in, spotted me and came up behind me and rubbed the back of my ear. Blue denim mini skirt, red push up bra, red spaghetti strap top. Rrroarrrr! The lobby was cold, I was cold, and she had a cold so I logged off real quick.

When we got upstairs, she started taking the pills the pharmacist suggested to her (why see a doc? why not cut out the middle man? no wonder health care is so expensive Hillary wants to make it "free".) plus some of the vitamins and Mucinex I brought with me. I got dressed, and got a cab. Every cabbie is unique down here. This one did not want to go to Calle Urugauy "because there is too much traffic there," and he did not know where the HAbibi Arab Restaurant was, and he took the weirdest route to get there, and then....he tried to drop us off at La Bodeguita, thinking that La Bo is a restaurant. "No, not that place!", my chica exclaimed. So, we settled on La Fioja, a nice upscale Spanish restaurant.

With her cold, I insisted she have orange juice and some hot chicken soup. Caldo de pollo was not on the menu, but the waiter was able to get the chef to special make us a couple of bowls (at $3.50 a piece). I ordered a beef salad, she ordered a steak with fries (but it did come with a tiny salad.) I don`t know how my little Kuna girl stays so skinny based on the meal choices she makes..... Needless to say, I helped her with the fries and there was still a doggie bag to take home.

When we got home, I gave her some more vitamins, a second Mucinex, a massage, some hot tea, and then some hot me. Dang latex during the Oasis sessions gave me some condom burns which she looked at askance, but that didn`t prevent her from treating me to her great oral skills. She was too tired for any tricky positions, but it was still a hot session. I figure she worked off the second $ I gave her on Friday morning. Even after our session, we went to sleep around midnight, which must have been the first time for her in almost week. Going to bed at 4am and being kicked out of her room is how she probably got her cold, I figure.

Around 1245am, my Plan B, the former Perla of River Club and now Miami Club dancer under a different name I don't know, called. Fortunately, I told the desk to hold all my calls and take messages. Glad I did. Not sure how they'd take to a three way, and while the bow was willing, the arrow was broken, if you know what I mean.

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suri woke up at 1030, i was driven out of bed and down to the lobby by the sound of an electric buzz saw being used by a carpenter just 20 feet from my window. see, i was given a room on the back side, which blocks the street noise, but on the first floor puts you right on the garage. and that where the carpenter was sawing, in the garage. at 845am on a sunday.

suri was actually in my bed this morning. so, instead of working my way through the v-girls at oasis for the "lunch special", i was showing her the meaning of the expression "morning wood". she was a little reluctant, but she did get a real nice night's sleep and i was going to pay the first month's rent on her new studio apartment, and she did get into it after a few strokes. but none of the really good positions that look so good in the big vanity mirror. what the hell, i just grooved on the 34c cups, her flat belly, her slim fingers, her delicate little arms, her curvy ass and her long legs. what a package for 95lbs and five foot nothing!

we hadn't had anything to eat or drink in twelve hours, so we agreed to get brunch after she went to her friend's house to get a change of clothes, then go to pay for new landlord. i wanted to come and help her move some of her stuff, but she insisted that she didn't want me to come. she agreed to meet me at 230pm at the internet cafe in front of hotel venetto. i gave her $150. figuring i would not see her the rest of the day (yes, i am getting the hang of it. giving her some money makes her disappear. i get it, now.) i breakfasted on the steak and bread leftovers from the night before.

i did go to our prearranged meeting place, and while i waited for her to show, i hit the internet, made some phones (for a lot less than i pay at the hotel) and printed some things out. there are two internet cafes across from the via venetto food court. i think of them as the blue one and the red-yellow colored one. the latter is closer to manolo's restaurant and is more upscale, charges less for printed pages, but cannot do cellular calls. the blue one can do cellular calls.

i learned the hard way that all the camera stores close on sunday. dang, i need a memory chip for my camera. all the good memories i am racking up here.

hit the rey supermarket nearby. very good deli. you could stay at the expensive hotels on via venetto, and eat healthy, cheaply, and well off the el rey. got some nice chilean grapes, some tomatoes, some juice (love that you can get a liter of fruit juice for less than a dollar down here) some greek salad, some milanese style chicke cutlets all for less than 10 bucks. and they don't make faces at you when you whip out your plastic.

called permanent damage, a celebrity on this site. "he got game, " and might turn me on to some generic vitamin cialis. "can't spell cialis without c-i-a. "

by then it was 9pm and time to start scouting new territory. still haven't been to the 5th floor bar in the miramar intercontinental, or the bodeguita, or to gt, or miami club. got in a cab. told the cabby to take me to bodeguita, but then changed my mind and told him to take me to the el dorado shopping plaza. i made a 10 dollar mistake right there. after not being able to figure it out, i said i wanted to go to the popeye's near novey. since i mentioned bodeguita's, he figured out i wanted to go to golden time. suddenly, he started driving with skill and elan and determination. and pulled right into the el mirage plaze. past the popeyes. and right into a parking spot in front of gt. that would cost me $10 later.

still trying to avoid the $94. 50 price instead of the $84. 50 price, i got out of his car and went straight to popeyes. not wanting my clothes to stink of fried chicken i stayed there just long enough to watch my cabby drive away and then starting to look for miami club. walked around, asked some folks for directions, but had to go back to the doorman and security guard in front of gt. two blocks down, one block to the right.

advice to the board. the cabbies are hip to us asking to go to popeyes when we want to go to gt. a better landmark is the fantastic casino, the rey supermarket, and the tienda 99 (noventi-nueve). or just ask to be dropped off at miami club, since i don't think that there any commissions for cabbies.

i went to miami club. after a wand search by the bouncer i got in. i didn't feel any pressure to buy girls drinks, but it was early. they had no tomato juice (how do they make bloody marys? ), so i asked for an orange juice and got a tang. it did not make me feel like an astronaut at all. i looked for the former perla, but no luck. three of the girls reminded me of the brunette costar on that fox show, house. the dancers had cute matching outfits but either they have been overrated by the board, or the lighting did not show them off to their best advantage. when i tried to pay off my tab, they asked for $10. $10 for tang? what, did it contain rare [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] sample from buzz aldrin's moon walk? no, it is a $10 minimum. i paid it but said i'd be back. for more tang!

then i walked to gt. super classy. heavy investment in the decor and furniture. walked past the glass booth, past the benches with the girls, was led into the room with the recliners and offered a pad, a pen, and a drink. then, they ushered in the girls. from 20, i narrowed down to 4, and then picked number 88. she came in, and when i rose to shake her hand (like a gentleman) she said that was the signal that we had to go upstairs. i said i would but that i wanted to talk to her first.

ground rules. i am older and need more stimulation, like bbbj and use of my own femidoms. her rules, she was going to give me good bbbj and fuck the shit out of me.

she was colombian, paisa, 23, and. get this. half thai. really? did she speak any thai? no, daddy died when she was 2 months old. tall and busty, she reminded me of the almost blonde asian porn stars like kianna bradley or lacey tom. but the pure sexual energy was pure colombiana.

my coworkers tell me about how you don't need to diet or exercise if you are overweight. colombian girls will fuck the fat off your hide in ten pound strips. oh, yeah.

she took my hand out of the room and past the bench, but not before asking me to buy her a red bull (to keep her energy up.) sure. everything was cool until i got the theater style box office and they said $94. 50. i tried insisting on $84. 50, but the chorus from the "ticket agent" and the floor manager (they run the place with walky talkies and all the precision of an aircraft carrier flight deck. why can't the whole country run this way? ) was! you pay 94. 50. may my cabbie burn to death in a single car accident!

anyway, i paid and was left with enough from my $100 to get a cab home, provided i found an honest cabbie. i went upstairs to a very nice room with a shower, two massage tables and two horizontal ceiling poles, which are very good for having a girl walk on your back. we showered, she drank half her red bull, we exchanged pleasantries, and then my tall, lithe, busty, exotic vivid girl got to work on the massage. great passionate bbbj, she was intrigued by the femidoms, wanted me to hook her up, and the positions were great. with some colombians, you don't make love to them, they fuck the shit out of you and you just hang on for the ride.

we discussed how much the house takes and so i was able to get her digits.

i tell you, i feel like garth in waynes world when the hot older woman starts crying in garth's lap, rubbing her sobbing face in his crotch, saying "i can't ask you to kill my husband, i can't! " and garth says "he's a dead man! " oh yes, if agent 88 gave me enough sex, and asked me to kill my wife so we could be together.

Be very careful. These girls come up with a scam for extra cash all the time. The stories are straight out of their telenovelas. I am not saying that this what she told you may or may not be true. Her story sounds awfully familiar to other sob stories from other forums. They are after what they don't have: Our funds. Be skeptical. Go with her; tell her you wish to help her move out. I will bet you that her story will suddenly change. Most of these girls have roomates that do the same thing as they do. I just don't see her living with a family like she claims. Once again, be skeptical. Trust, but verify their tales and if they turn out false it is up to you which way to proceed.
[QUOTE=Iguana Six]She owed them January and half of February´s rent, $250, and she was hoping to earn a little with her friends that night, and little with me, in order to pay them off on Friday morning. If she didn´t, they would keep her stuff. Sounds plausible. She didn´t earn anything that night, so she was worried. I assured her I could help.

By then, it was 530am, so it was a shower, some cuddling, and sleep....until a little after 715am, when her landlord started bugging her about the rent...

Suri and I had arranged $700 and all expenses if she would be my novia for the week, so I gave her $200 so she could pay her landlord and come right back.

Which she never did. Still sleep deprived, I woke up after around 1pm. I tried calling her, no luck. I showered and changed. Made a few phone calls. Realizing Suri might not come back, I decided to hit the Oasis for the lunch special.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Be very careful. These girls come up with a scam for extra cash all the time. The stories are straight out of their telenovelas. Be skeptical.[/QUOTE]Always a good thing to keep in mind, Voyajer. I have worked in law enforcement / unionized labor / car rentals / environmental political organizing and other sleazy trades, so I am used to people lying with a straight face.

I hit PTY at 10:30 and have a flight to CTG at 15:10 is four hours enough time to take a taxi to the canal, do a really quick 1 hour sight seeing tour of the canal and make my 15:10 flight to CTG clear customs and all that crap!

Any Taxi contacts and price and salida tax would be great!

Thanks in advance,

LP!

[QUOTE=Latina Passion]I hit PTY at 10:30 and have a flight to CTG at 15:10 is four hours enough time to take a taxi to the canal, do a really quick 1 hour sight seeing tour of the canal and make my 15:10 flight to CTG clear customs and all that crap!

Any Taxi contacts and price and salida tax would be great!

Thanks in advance,

LP![/QUOTE]

Hey LP

This would be very tough. You would have to clear customs to leave the airport. This could be quick or long depending on the line at the time. Getting back in you would have to go through security which could again vary. But the longest part is getting to the canal. I am not sure about the exact drive time but it is not real close to the airport. Once there you would be rushed. I personally would not do it with only 4 hours.

Some guys here have done a layover with a trip into the city for a quickie at Oasis. But even then I think they had a longer layover than you. My advice would be to sit in the airport and enjoy all the hotties walking around.

RT

[QUOTE=Latina Passion]I hit PTY at 10:30 and have a flight to CTG at 15:10 is four hours enough time to take a taxi to the canal, do a really quick 1 hour sight seeing tour of the canal and make my 15:10 flight to CTG clear customs and all that crap!

Any Taxi contacts and price and salida tax would be great!

Thanks in advance,

LP![/QUOTE]Figure your plane might arrive late, like 11am. If they are transferring your check in bags and you have just a small carry on, and the line isn´t long and you run the head of the line, get your tourist card and zip through, you might be out of the airport by 11:15. Run upstairs to get a cab, give him $20, and hit the lunch time $50 special at Oasis. Spend an hour there (1145-1245) and spend $25 for a cab back at the airport by 1pm. Still plenty of time. Hell, if you are randy enough, you might even do a second turn at Oasis for another $50 and have a hell of a time.

After our session, we showered, she turned on the Simpsons and Everybody Hates Chris on the TV and started to prep for work. She modified this blouse she bought at Sprago. It was this black, slinky thing with spaghetti straps. Well, she cut the shoulder straps off and used a razor to cut out the little foam pads out of the bustier bra cups. I helped, and was treated to her a good long look at her in her new GT hooker wear. When she put it on and pulled the tail of the blouse down, it became a sexy black cocktail dress that left nothing to imagination, especially her nipples. Oh, baby. She complained about not having had time to see the hair stylist. She complained that her natural hair is black and 'crespo'(which can mean thick or curly, depending on what country you are from. She let me only take a fleeting glimpse of her passport, because she thought he picture was ugly, but it showed a very pretty 19 year old with a beautiful main of naturally black and full bodied hair. Sigh. At least she is staying away from the tats.)

I got back to my hotel room, feeling absolutely drained by GT 88. I had not eaten lunch, and had only juice, fruit, and a turnover for breakfast. I walked to the Restaurante Seoul. It wasn't much to look at from the outside, but I could tell in a minute if I would stay. I saw a table full of Koreans in one corner and a cute Korean MILF with two kids at another. Yep, if Koreans eats here, it is either a good Korean restaurant or the only Korean restaurant in the city. The place was very run down, but I ordered the bulgoki and was pleasantly surprised. It was pretty good, although I was a bit surprised by the chef's choice of kimchi side-dishes. The cucumber and cabbage were standard fare, but the anchovy and other one were a twist. $10 for the whole thing, plus soup, and just like the menu said, it would have fed two people. I tried to write in a tip on the credit card slip, but that space was xxx'd up. When I asked the waitress, she said the owner does not allow it. Like a true restaurant in Asia, good service is expected, and it is factored into the price of the meal.

I walked back to my hotel, satiated in so many ways. What a vacation! Although my Kunita was supossed to have called me at 1pm, I didn't count on it and did not sweat simultaneously sheduling GT 88 at around the same time.

There were no messages waiting for me so I called her a little after 9pm. She was home and said she had tried calling me. She arrived a half hour later and I looked forward to just a night of cuddling. Well, she gave me the bonus plan. After settling into bed and catching a flick on the television, she treated me to some really sweet GF sex. Now that the worst of her cold was over, she was really in the mood, even if I wasn't when she first came over. After two energetic boughts of screeching crazy weasel sex with GT 88, this delicious low key seduction at midnight was very welcome. If only I could convince her to get on the pill so we could dispense with the femidoms, but she might be very Catholic or something.

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So I took the advice from the guys on the forums and packed light. Indeed saved some time and hassle. I got to MIA at around 130 PM, got my carry on checked and went off and hung out for a while. The flight left right on time, first time flying with Copa by the way, usually fly with AA or TACA.

I arrived at PTY at 730 PM and made a mistake of taking my sweet time since 80 percent of the passengers on the flight were not panamanian citizens so the line to enter the country was long and I was one of the last ones. I bought a tourist visa at the airport in Miami so that helped somewhat. I got out and Costa Inn was there waiting for me, pleasant suprise. I had no idea. So the shuttle took me to the hotel about 20 minutes from the airport. Once I entered a see a huge sign that says ¨NO VISITORS ALLOWED IN THE ROOMS¨. There goes my plans I said to myself. I checked in, went to my room and changed to head out to my fav. Spot. Capri for a quickie. I called Iguana Six and made plans to head over to Bodeguita.

I got to Capri, payed $2 cab ride, and had him drop me off at the corner. So I lit up a cigerete and strolled in. Another Panamania they must of thought. Plan worked. So I go in and after about my second beer I chose this cute girl, 27 from Cali. We head over to the counter and pay while were walking I see Sara, me and this girl have history from back in 2005-06, it couldn't be here I thought but I quickly got out of the other girl and told her I rather have another beer and said sorry. I walk out and try looking for Sara and found here, I would over to her and she screamed with excitement. We sit down and she tells me that when she left to Medellin she had no plans of coming back. I met this girl in Capri a while back and had a blast. And we stayed in touch through emails and phone calls until the past year. We went into the room and had a pretty good time, I look at my watch and thought to myself I was never going to make it to the room in time to call Iguana. Sara gave me a cell phone so we could keep in touch while in Panama. I rolled out.

Returned to the room at about 130 AM and passed out.

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[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Hey LP

This would be very tough. You would have to clear customs to leave the airport. This could be quick or long depending on the line at the time. Getting back in you would have to go through security which could again vary. But the longest part is getting to the canal. I am not sure about the exact drive time but it is not real close to the airport. Once there you would be rushed. I personally would not do it with only 4 hours.

Some guys here have done a layover with a trip into the city for a quickie at Oasis. But even then I think they had a longer layover than you. My advice would be to sit in the airport and enjoy all the hotties walking around.

RT[/QUOTE]

Hell, I might just push the envelope and see if I can do it, the worse that could happen, is an unplanned layover in Panama, but hell that almost beats a four hour layover in Panama doing nada!

Suri and I would have woken up later, but for the noise around our room. The Eurohotel is nice hotel, with a large and very earnest staff, and by 8-9am, the place is abuzz with activity. Rooms are being cleaned, the maintenance staff is refurbishing furniture and air conditioning units, and if your room is near the garage and the service areas, the noise will wake you up. The doors are thin and the hallways are not carpeted (but always kept to a brilliant shine) so noise reverberates. It was a concern during the daytime sessions with Golden Time girl #8, as she is a howler monkey in bed, and I wasn't sure if running the airconditioning and the radio would cover up the noise of her moans, screams, and demands to "dame su leche, papi!"

I was still recovering from the day before, so no morning wood. Suri and I went to Costa Azul for brunch. We each ordered breakfast steaks and I also asked for french toast. The service that day was lousy. We got served shortly enough, but getting a bill and a couple of cups of hot water took for ever. Then, we got the wrong bill. When we got the right bill, we were charged 50 cents each for a coffee cup of hot water under the heading "special plate". (We still had sore throats I wanted us to gargle with hot water and salt.

Afterwards we walked to El Rey supermarket and picked up some cold meds, vitamins, groceries. She refused to hold my hand in the Via Espana/Via Venetto neighborhood, because was concerned about her reputation - she lives near there. At the store, she ran into another Relax Oriental MP alumni, a girl who met a Swiss guy at the MP and has been living with him the last few months. They chatted a bit, but not long. The girl with the Swiss sugar daddy doesn't get along with Suri's freelance partner, Pamela.

Suri went off to work on relocating to her new room, I went back to the hotel to arrange another afternoon session with GT8. No luck, as GT8 had many errands to run.

That evening, Suri came back to my hotel room. We had set out to eat at a restaurant on Via Argentina, ironically enough just a block up the hill from Taoz, the Blockbuster video, the River Club and the Relax MP's. There are three good restaurants right next to each other, including a different Manolo's than the one across the street from the Venetto. We had set out to eat at Trapiche, but when I saw a combination Mexican/Lebanese restaurant, I was intrigued and we went there. I ordered the middle east appetizer plate and was very pleased. As we ate, she pointed out to some apartments across the street she had considered moving into, but they had 3 guys in one bedroom and 3 gals in another. No privacy, no peace and quiet, so she chose a hotel room up the hill. From what she told me, I get the impression that rents are comperable to lower end US rents, $600-900 a month.

We went back to the hotel room and watched tv. While we were watching music videos, she pointed out a chubby Panamanian rapper, with a name that sounded like "Roll-O", and told me he was once a freelance customer. After 5 minutes of a wrapped BJ, he came prematurely, after which she left his "residencial" love motel room in disgust. It was the fastest $80 she ever made. When I asked if she considered staying a little longer, she said, "It's not like he's my boyfriend, and once the customer has his orgasm, or his hour is up, my job is done." This made me appreciate her BBBJ's and sweet love making sessions. Mistakenly thinking I was down to just 2 femidoms, I used a conventional one, but couldn't give her "mi leche". During previous sessions, she had asked to see if she could get me off with just her hands and mouth, so I obliged her.

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Like the previous morning, Suri and woke up and had brunch at the Costa Azul near the Marriot Hotel. This time, we got much better service. The Costa Azul offers good food at good prices in a good location. As usual, Suri over-ordered, getting a huge bowl of oatmeal, eggs and Panamanian style flat bread, which she didn't finish. I had the french toast again, and then ordered chicken soup for the cold. The hot salt water gargling the day before was paying off and we both felt better. Suri wanted a phone card to recharge her cell phone and was putting off washing her hair until she could get some more the special Lorial shampoo. (She had some, but it was being stored at a friend's house.) I wanted more fruit and juice. We got both at El Rey and then separated for the afternoon.

It was my last day, and I wanted a fourth and even a fifth session with GT Girl 8, for which I had saved what I though was my last two femidoms. I had only brought 10. Later, I would find out I had another in my backpack, which I had hoped to use at Oasis, but wasn't allowed to.

GT8 did come by that afternoon. In addition to almost coming when I DATY and her favorite position with her ankles around my ears (In that position, if I can't pound her enough hard enough, she would just use her ankles for leverage and pound me) she wanted to experiment. She asked me to lube her up and fuck her enhanced tits. When I suggested we use the chair, she sat on me, lap dancer style (reverse cowgirl) and bounced on my lap so hard, the chair slid back along the floor until it was stopped by a cabinet. After a few minutes of that, she had me get up, stood up, bent down to the chair and had me pound her from behind standing doggie style. After her first orgasm, she wanted her second to be simultaneous with mine. But it had been a long week, and even one of Permanent Damage's inexpensive, but effective, Vitamin C's couldn't address my lack of leche reserves. She then decided to try to give me a BBBJ2CIM, which would have happened pretty easy but when it didn't after ten minutes, and I responded well to her tickling my bag and my crack, she slipped a condom on her finger and did FUTB, which caused me to drench her tits.

I had hoped for a 3 hour session, preferably in her room at the residential, so we could couple for a an hour, recover and watch TV for an hour, and then couple for an hour before she had to prep for work. No time for that today, but she promised to come by my hotel room at 430am, right after getting off work at GT. This sounded good to me, but would require deconflicting with my Kuna chick. Didn't know how my semi-girlfriend would react to a proposed 3 way with the Colombian sex machine. She had gotten so much more reliable after she stopped partying with her freelance confederate and settled her housing issues, and super affectionate after I nursed her through her cold.

By now, it was the late afternoon of my last day. So much I still wanted to do, like visiting La Bodeguita for the first time. I called RecluseX and Permanent Damage, eventually setting up a meeting at my hotel and buying some pills. I called my Kuna chick and asked her to meet me for dinner so I could pay her and say goodbye. The meeting went well, and when we were done, she was waiting in the lobby.

Permament Damage had another appointment, but RecluseX joined us for dinner on Calle Uruguay. After dinner, RecluseX went outside for a smoke and I said goodbye to her. It was almost tearful, as she told me how she really made a connection over the past six days. We had arranged $700 for 7 days of her time, plus some expenses, and I had already given her $350. Since she was AWOL on Friday night (she took on a freelance date, she finally admitted) I just gave her another $300, for $650 for five really sweet sessions.

She would have come to my hotel room that night, but I wanted to hit La Bodeguita with RecluseX and have a last session with GT88. I gave my little Kunita a last kiss, watched her get into a cab, and then walked to La Bodeguita with RecluseX. When we got there, they said they were going to open up in a half hour, but said we were welcome to have drinks on the balcony. The half hour estimate was very optimistic, and when we inquired, they admitted they wouldn't open up the main club area until 1030 pm. Not good for me, as I had planned to sleep early and build up my strength for the Colombian mattress monster, who was supposed to come by after GT closed.

Recluse hadn't been to Miami Club, so I agreed to go with him. We took a cab to Fantastic Casino. (When going to GT, tell the cabbie to take you to Fantastic, because when you ask to go to Popeyes, they still drop you off to GT in order to get their $10 payoff, which gets added to your GT bill.) We did a walk through the casino, confirmed that they didn't pick up any of the chica traffic displaced by the crack down at Veneto's, and then walked past the Super 99 and the mini-Chinatown to get to Miami Club.

We got a table in the back and watched the dancers. Adriana took to the stage and started dancing. I had spotted her the previous Sunday night, along with blonde Claudette, and the other pretty brunette, Daniela. I inquired about the former "Perla" of River Club MP, but not knowing her MC stage name, it was difficult. When I gave a physical description, a couple of girls thought she was the one that took a dancing contract in Nicaragua.

RecluseX seemed to get target lock on Adriana, and it was getting late for me, so I returned to the hotel to start packing and resting up for GT8.

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That night, I had a brilliant idea. Site members should get together an investment group. We could open up a brothel in one of the two counties in Nevada where that would be legal. Meanwhile, we take out advertisements soliciting SW at less than prevailing wages. Once we establish and document a shortage of SW's in the area, we get an immigration attorney to get us twenty or thirty H1-B guest worker visas from the INS. With those in hand, we could legally bring in Colombian girls to work in our house. Imagine how popular a Nevada brothel staffed by the hottest sex fiends from Cali, Bogota, and Periera would be. The Colombian girls would fill up our waiting lists for the opportunity to work, and possibly eventually immigrate to the states. Imagine not having to leave the country to have your balls drained, Paisa-style. Discuss among yourselves.

I left ReclusedX at Miami Club, paid a cabby $2 to take me back to the hotel. It was only 1030pm and turned down the light in my hotel room to get into a sleepy mode and started packing. After a phone call, I felt relaxed enough to get to bed. With visions of the GT8, the insatiable half Thai CMM (Colombian mattress monster) coming by for an after work session, or better yet, to have our session in the late morning after we took a nap, I kept waking up with a woody.

I was only half asleep between 3:52am and 4:40am, waiting for her to call. I figured it she would need a half hour to wrap things up at work and started calling. The first three tries, her phone rang but got no answer. On the fourth try, I got an out-of-service message. I got the hint. She was too tired after work and was not coming by.

What was the Plan B? What to do, what to do? Hmmm, Miami Club doesn't close until 6am, and I had wanted to date one of the A-D-C girls (Adriena, the cute brunette; Daniela, the beautiful brunette; or Claudette, the younger version of Edie Falco/Jill Kelly) and I couldn't let ReclusedX have all the fun, so I got dressed real quick, packed a femidom and lube, got a cab and was at Miami Club by 5am.

Claudette, like a lot of the girls, was in a booth getting groped by local guys, but some girls were sitting along the bar. Miami Club is dark, which is to the detriment of the girls, because it makes it hard to see how beautiful some of them are, and it makes it hard to find the one you want. I asked a clutch of 3 chicas by the bar to help me find Adriana (the waiters are in perpetual motion. Like UPS delivery men. And couldn't be stopped long enough to help). One said she was one of the Adrianas, but when I said I wanted the other, one of them said she would help summon her if for compensation.

Time was running out so I slipped her $5 and she sent Adriana II to the back to get Adriana I. Even though she had been on duty since 9pm, she seemed fresh as a daisy. Ah, the recuperative powers of youth! We spoke for a couple of minutes and she led me to cashiers booth. But not before asking if she was game for BBBJ (no, dang it) and femidoms (yes).

The price wa $95. Not $85? No, the cashier insisted it was $95. (I dunno, maybe $95 included 'consumo minimo'. Remember the $5 classes of Tang? ) What is the deal? Is the falling value of the dollar affecting the hobby, or what?

Anyway, she was given a key to the hidden door in the back. We stepped inside a well lit doorway, and she led me to the first door on the left. The room had a bunk on top of a larg cabinet, with an improvised mattress made of spongy foam. There were two polls running along the ceiling for AMP style back walking, and a TV. She said it didn't play porno. So why the heck was it there, I thought. There was a shower in the back. The room was about the size and configuration of a cabin on a ship, and got me thinking of a musical refrain: "Love, exciting and new. Climb aboard, were expecting you. The Loooove Boat, soon you'll making another run. The Loooove Boat, something for every one. Set mind on a course for adventure, were about to make another run. "

In the light, of the room, her face seemed even cuter, and while I could see that she still packed some of her teenage "baby fat", it was the youthful babyfat of a college girl. Think of a pre-child bearing Brittany Spears. She was another Paisa, from Periera, but didn't have a thick Paisa accent. Very Spanish, almost Italian looking. A nice golden color, about a 40/60 tits-to-ass ratio. Couldn't compare her to my prom date, since I took a tall mulatta to the prom, but Adriana would have been good army candy at any prom or college party.

She got out of the white MC uniform while I was in the shower, which was a disappointment, since I wanted to undress her. She remembered talking for a while to RecluseX, but said he didn't take her back. (Shame on you, RecluseX! Or did you spot someone better.) She seemed intrigued by the femidom, got it into her with no problem, and then started her massage. I enjoyed the view from the ceiling mirror (I always get on my back for the massages). She got me pretty hard with her hand and then put a regular condom on me for the BJ, but not very well, because as I started to stiffen, the condom started to give me an "L" shape. She readjusted and as she straighted me out, she started telling me I was very "grueso" (thick).

Oh, oh. I've heard that before, two or three times on this trip alone. She was concerned I'd hurt her. (I don't know which is worse, the concerned look a girl gets when she tell you that you are too long, or the one when she tells you that you are two thick.) Anyway, her oral skills was good, but not the best I had gotten this week, and time was a wasting. I had her get on her back and I came at her sideways. Love this position when there is a ceiling mirror, as you can watch her in profile and from the top. I should get one mounted in my bed room at home! The first fifty strokes, I took it slow and gauged her facial expressions, but then it changed from concern to almost blissful, and I knew I had her going.

On the Colombian responsiveness scale, with Valentina of Oasis on one end, and GT8 on the other, she was in the middle along with Gloria of Oasis. Not there for crazy weasel sex, but definitely up for a nice gentle rocking. That was fine with me, as I just enjoyed watching her get into it, tweaking each others nipples, rubbing her smooth but chunky tummy, rubbing that taut ass. We did it side-to-side until she came, disappointed I didn't respond to her quiet pleads to "dame tu leche". Like other Colombians, she was disappointed we didn't have a simultaneous orgasm. "No problem, baby. Get on your side, we'll do what I call the "lazy doggie style" position, I'll grab your hips, groove to your ample, but firm tush, and we'll rocket to the finish line. "

A few minutes after finishing, we could here one of the girls shout, "It's the final song of the night! " and we knew it was almost 6am. I asked her about the prices. $95 for foriegners, $85 for locals, and even less for Chinese, since the owner is Chinese. Dang! Now, that's discrimination! I was prepared for the $85 price quoted on this site.

It wasn't hard getting a cab, but the feel of the city at 6am was very different than the feel of the city at 5am. I got back to the hotel, finished packing and tried to sleep. I really did. I got about three hours of sleep but after 930am there was no way to keep my eyes closed.

Calling GT8 was out of the question. She had shut of her phone and was probably deeply racked out. Considered calling back my little Indian, but I had actually had gotten enough of that for a while. Hmmmm. Take-in lunch at Oasis, followed by take-out lunch at Subway before checking out of the hotel and going to the airport? Hmmm. That's a possiblity. And I did want to try more than one of the V-girls at Oasis (Valentina? Did that on Friday. Vanessa from my second to last trip? Be nice to do her again, especially since she was with a customer when I went there on Saturday. Valerie? Chunky and cute. Maybe she's there today.) The clincher would be that I could get there right after the Oasis opened and get the chicas hot, fresh, and fluffy.

I got there at 1110am. They only had three girls that morning. And I had already done all of them. Two of them are in ReclusedX's photo on the photo gallery. Tall, wide-bodied Tatiana was there. She of the Pam Grier face and the late 30's MILFy body. Not an option, because our nice session ended badly when my thrusting at the end wound up pushing the condom off me and into her. The model-slim, athletically toned Kathy was also there, but I recall that during our Saturday session she was very detached emotionally, and a little mechanical (although when a girl in such good shape is trying to get you off with her hips, mechanical can be a good thing.)

Fortunately, Vanessa was there. I recall that our session last summer, one right before I dashed off to the airport, was what got me so excited about making it my last stop before leaving the country. Hair lightened to a hot choclate tone to match her skin. Pretty latin features with a slim pretty nose. She claims to be 28 years old, has a very sexy Ceasarian scar, lets the post-childbirth baby fat work to give her a plush, wide body, and has a great attitude. She really like sex and loves a tupping. She remembered me hanging out after a session last Saturday, and I apologized for no taking her to the back room, but she was with a customer when I came in and had to make my selection. She liked that and when I asked her about femidoms, she remembered our session the summer before fondly. We were off to a good start.

We started out in the most rearward of the rooms, but the DVD player was defective and I asked to switch to the other remodeled room, which is where we had our last session. While I showered, I asked her to pop my DVD into the machine (a US made one I picked up for $14 in a novelty and sex shop across from the street from the Costa Inn hotel). We moved the bed so it would be directly under the ceiling mirror. She started to massage me, used a big glob of lotion to rub my member, and I asked her if she would give me a BBBJ. No? Not even for a tip? Maybe. How big a tip? You tell me. She came back with $70. $70, I countered with $20 and $30, bit it was not dice. She assured me her covered BJ's were just as good. Show me, I said.

After a while, she started telling me I was "grueso", but that she loved the look of it. When I entered her, it didn't take her long to warm up to it. Everything was fine, then she started saying the femidom was uncomfortable. It wasn't last time, but if the inner ring is bugging you, we can take it out. That was a little better. I started hammering away, enjoying the sponge rubber texture of her breasts and ass, playing with long brown nipples, watching her fingers play skillfully on her clitoris. I thought everything was cool, but then she started complaining about the folds of the femidom rubbing her the wrong way. Too late to lube the outside? Yep, it was starting to hurt. OK. Let's switch to a latex condom. Didn't have one in the room, and it was the first time I forgot to pack along a Spiral topped condom. She put on a towel and stepped into the hall.

When she returned, she lotioned me up again, jerked me a little, got me stiff again, put on the condom, sucked me a bit and then demanded to know which position would get me off. She became a clock watcher and I still had plenty of time left on my hour. I do have to admit that between the five sessions with my new "GF", four sessions with the CMM, two previous Oasis lunches, and Adriana at MC, all within the last six days, she could rightly sense that I was dragging in the dairy department. After trying for a while in lazy doggie position, she said she had enough, too much discomfort for the first customer of the day and she would get me off her hands.

Fine by me. With me lying on my back and her kneeling between my legs, she tapped her acting skills, talking real sexy to me in Spanish, and then in her limited English. Working her lotioned hands, she began tickling my bag, and "grinding the corn" (rubbing her the knuckles of her fist in my crack). I watched her in the mirror, looking at her sexy expressions and rubbing my legs on her body helped. The clincher was when the DVD got to real hot scene of tiny Tricia Yen getting getting and giving oral, and Vanessa giving me the univeral chica signal to "wrap it up", a condomed FUTB. She turned ecstatic with her facial expression and sexy talk when I came all over her tits. Shouldn't have tipped off this cumdodging tart, because I would have loved to have decorated her face like a glazed donut.

Nice way to end the trip, but it was clear that I was running low on ammo. I had started out strong the first night, giving the chica both a facial and a pearl necklace with seconds of each other on Thursday night, but I was needing a lot of help a week later. And I would be expected to play the role of blue-balled, sex deprived boyfriend when I got home. Even after a hellish twelve hours of TSA harrassment, the DMV treatment by Customs/Immigration, two delayed and late flights, politically correct snacks on the plane (Whattayamean, you can't serve peanuts anymore? ! ), and then an almost two hour drive from the airport.

I left for the airport at 1pm, finally got home 14 hours later to a light sprinkle of snow, and drove home in a post-trip funk. I have heard (and experienced) the post Angeles City funk Philippine mongers have described. How can I endure the cold, the tomatoes that taste like shredded cardboard, the lack of fresh pineapple juice, and people that dress like Eskimos after a week in PTY? Driving home, I thought about going back to work the next day. I turned on the DVD player in the dash, selected a collection of New Wave hits from the early 80's, and punched up "Echo Beach" by Martha and the Muffins:

"From 9 to 5 I have to be at work,
My job is really boring....I'm an office clerk,
The only thing that get me through the day,
Is thinking I'll be back at Echo Beach someday.
Echo Beach, far away in time.
Echo Beach, far away in time."

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Day 2

Was exhausted from day 1 and woke up pretty late. Did some shopping since I travelled with only a carry on and couldn't take any liquids. Bought some shaving creme, deoderant and some lotion and off I went. Got back and called Iguana and I decided to meet up with him and Permanent Damage. So off I went to EuroHotel, which was about a block and a half from Hotel Costa Inn. (Notice to all, Hotel Costa Inn is a horribly ran hotel, I do not recommend to anybody.)

After we met I joined Iguana and his young lady to dinner at San Blas. Which was about 2 blocks from Bodeguita on Uruguay Street so we decide to head over there after we finished. His lady friend left and we strolled over to Bodeguita, it was about 9 PM. We arrive and they take us to the to the second floor since the first floor (main club) was closed. They told us it would open in about half an hour so we decide to hang out. After I drank a couple of beers we find out the club doesnt open until 1030. Iguana had to return to his hotel early so we roll over to Club Miami since I've never been there. By the way, quality at Bodeguita was pretty good but it was too early.

We catched a cab and head over to the Casino in El Dorado, which I forgot the name to it, and well we walk in and wait for the cab to depart. Coast is clear and we walk towards Miami. We arrive and is pretty much your typical strip club. Quality was a 6-9 with a few spinners at 10. Girl to guy ratio was roughly at 1:1. We sit order a few drinks. There was a beautiful girl doing a show on stage and knew right away she would get it. Iguana decided to call it a night and we parted ways, on his way out he got the girls name and gave me a heads up. So I wait a few minutes waiting until I see her. Her name was Adriana and she was a sweetheart, 21, from Perreira. We sat and talked for a little way and went in. $95 for an hour, they asked me for a Panamanian id and obviously I don't have one so I settled for the tourist price. We in had a blast and she got my number and decided we should meet up the next day. We went back out and hung out and drank for about another 2 hours. Had a really good time at club miami. I recommend it to anyone. Its def. A dif experience than Golden Time. It isn't as upfront as Golden Time. You can relax get some drinks, watch some crazy shows and get to know the girls, mind you the quality isn't as consistent or high as GT but it almost is. It comes down to what experience you want.

Adriana and I part ways and I head over to Capri to see Sara. I call her and shes not feeling good. She was in her room at capri watching t. V. In her PJ's but she wanted to see me. I got into Capri and it was pretty dead at 3 AM. I got a beer and went in to the counter. Told them I was there to see Sara so I payed and went in. We talked and relaxed for a little while. Got a BBBJ and hit it for an hour. Had a great time but I was exhausted. Headed back to the room and passed out.

What would day 3 have in store? Hopefully I would meet up with Sara or Adriana.

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I went to Golden Time (GT) a couple of hours ago and found a real gem: Nicole No. 12. She's for Pereira Colombia, white, petite, blonde hair, killer body, nice natural tities, great ass, a piercing in the nose and a piercing on the clitoris! She looks very good (9 out of 10 on my scale) and is an awesome fucker. She's very sweet and horny, and gives a very decent massage. I highly recommend her.

Arrived on Friday night, first up La Bodequita. Got there at 10p. M. , still a little early but soon the inventory got real good. I selected this 20 y. O. From Cali (Karin) hoottt! (well she kinda chose me) She had turned down several guys and I'am not sure if it was all price related or not. Anyway we go back to my place and turn it up a notch. Her oral skills where average but her riding skills made up for it. The price. $100 for two hours, which was enough time for my first night. This club remains a must see spot.

Night two. Club Fenix/Capri. A bit of a hike from my apt on Balboa Ave. The area is shaky, if you go alone be on guard. Inside. Wow. About 20 girls. The majority from Colombia (75% 7's or above), I selected one from Medellin (Mary). Nice BJ w/condom, she loved it doggy and we have a date. If she calls, if not no problem. Always have a B plan. Prices. $2 to enter. $36 for each 15 mins (room & girl. Can add up quickly). I stayed for 15 mins. No leche. Got her info for a real session at my place.

As always, staying with Panamacasa. Enclosed are some shots of the flat. This one is smaller than my last visit but the girls love it. 1 week $585. Be sure to negotiate your prices before they see the apt. Good location. 5 min walk to La Bodeguita. I also walk to Venetos area. About 15-20mins for excercise. All the normal goodies. Guards. Secure parking. Room safe. Etc.

Hope to have a few girly shots soon.

Enjoy!

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As always, staying with Panamacasa. Enclosed are some shots of the flat. This one is smaller than my last visit but the girls love it. 1 week $585. Be sure to negotiate your prices before they see the apt. Good location. 5 min walk to La Bodeguita. I also walk to Venetos area. About 15-20mins for excercise. All the normal goodies. Guards. Secure parking. Room safe. Etc.
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This post looks like a real state advertisement. Please next time please don't put this real state photos.

Although I play a slightly different angle than most of the guy on this board, I really appreciate all of the various contributions by the dedicated members here.

I am here, once again, to remind everyone of the sea of non-p4p girls, and semi-pros out in the street everyday. They are literally waiting for you to approach them.

These girls, although maybe not as experienced as some of the club workers, can offer quite a bit of bang for your buck. When the girl is hot, and when you pay nothing, you feel pretty proud of yourself. I do understand that many visitors are not afforded the time to look for these girls, but if you do have some time, take to the streets!

You can f*ck many of these girls for nothing, or only the cost of a meal or a taxi. They all complain about not having money to feed their kids, or what ever. Just f*uck 'them and tell them that next time you see them you MIGHT give them some money to help with their "problems".

I had 7 non-p4p girls in 72 hours. This is a new record for me. How much did it cost me? A few dollars in phone calls, and about $25 for food and taxis. Not a bad deal for a poor guy. All were 6-9s on a scale of 1-10

Check it out guys. Panama is Caliente!

Quick note. Sexy Boy, I guess it could be intrepreted as a real estate ad. Everbody is entitled to their opinion and yours is well. For those of you that have read my previous posts, I shall continue to share information that may be helpful to all. That is the purpose of the forum isn't it?

Last night I went to Club Miami, got there a bit early 8p. M. And was told by the doorman, the action starts about 10p. M. Anyway I went inside for a quick look, about 5 girls in plain view and most were taking naps. I grabbed a rum & coke. Yikes. $7. 00. Oh well. Asians have really bought into this area or I just did not noticed it that much on my last trip. Had a brief conversation with Patricia, no chemistry there so I walked over to Golden Times.

Golden Times is still the spot for good times. The prices, well sometimes I get charged $95 and sometimes $85. Last night they charged me $84. Sunday was a slow night but apprx. 10 or so girls working that I could see not counting those that may have been in sessions. I sit, the parade starts, 8 of the 10 I would give a solid 8-10's. The other two. Maybe 7's.

On arrival, I was on my cell in the waiting area and #30 came out to observe and preview herself. Chemistry weighs heavily so. After the parade my selection was already made. Good massage, great sex and a future date made offsite. We shall see. Another satisfied customer of Golden Times.

Enjoy!

Maybe you misunderstood my comment about your post. I mean we want to see naked women you made a recommendation about a place, that’s ok but the photos might be too much, is like you are selling the place.

Let’s forget my comments and congratulation for the golden time girl. May be you could share her phone.

My humble apology, I did misunderstand your comment. After reading posts of problems with hotels and other rental companies, I was passing on my experience with the company I use. Be assured, I receive no commission for doing so When I find something good, I try to share with as much detail as possible.

Now, the lady at GT, took my number, I did not get hers. They do this sometimes for whatever reason, not feeling totally comfortable or have no plans to call at all? I did receive a call yesterday but lost the transmission. Oh well. Thats why I always have a backup plan or two. Or three I may just return to GT but I have a few more spots on my list to visit before my departure.

Enjoy!

Gentlemen,

This report is a little late since I was in Panama a couple weeks ago but have been traveling non-stop for work and didn't have a chance to update.

Anyway I have been to Panama many times and so I pretty much hit the old faithfuls:

1) La Bodequita - I was in Panama during the week and we ended up going here on a Tuesday night. This place was PACKED!!!!! And there were many very hot women here, but unfortunately my experience was not so grand. I don't know how much you guy's out there are willing to pay for these girls here but the ones I met were "INSANE". I first started talking to this very hot brunette and it doesn't take long to get to the point of Hotel & cost. This chick wanted $200 for just a couple of hours. Now I am a good looking guy and can get free chicks all the time. For me it is not paying them to come over, it is paying them to LEAVE when I am done! But when you compare $200 for the $85-$95 deals you can get at GT's then these chicks are insane! When she told me $200 I sort of giggled, kissed her on her hand (she was hot) and told her she can go look for an idiot somewhere else. So not to be discouraged I found another Columbian chick. Now, this blond I found had one of the most insane bodies you can possibly have. I am sure some of you guy's have probably seen this one. I know she used to (or still does) work at the Cotton Club. Anyway I started talking to her and just looking at those tits and ass was getting me excited. So we started to talk price. Of course she started at $200 also and I was about to walk away. She saw me hesitate and quickly dropped the price to $150. I tried to get her to $100 but she kept repeating $150. Now normally I wouldn't have even thought about this and just got into a cab to GT's but this chick was insanely hot. BUT I have my pride, so I told her I would pay $150 for at least 2 hours but that she had to at least do BBBJTCIM. She wouldn't agree to that and so with much regret I had to also send her on her way. (* Ended up going to GT's and had a great time for 50% discount compared to these girls *)

2) GT's - as stated by many... it's the best place in Panama in my opinion.

3) Miami Club - Visited but didn't partake of any chicas. It's a really touch-and-go place in my opinion. But I still like to visit for a little while to just check it out. I think these girls are easier to get back to your hotel after they are done working.

4) Elite II - Hot chicks, but too pushy at times. But still can be fun with a group of friends. Never wanted to pay to get a chick out of here, just not worth it.

5) Hooters - Ok, yes I do love the wings but the girls make a great dessert! A few months ago I was able to take out a girl from here and had a great time with her. On almost every visit I have been very successful at getting their contact info for later dates. But this is probably a good option for some of the younger guys, I am a young 30's fairly good looking guy and can pick up girls at Hooters in the U.S. let alone Panama. But these girls are much more flirtatious and actually a lot of fun!

One last thing... I didn't visit the Cotton Club this trip but I have been there before. It is probably the best looking club inside and they had some beautiful women. But unfortunately very pushy on drinks and expensive. But still fun to check out.

Lastly, for those of you looking for Vitamin C or V. I followed some members recommendations here and contacted the guy who advertises in the "La Prensa" classifieds ad. I got some Generic Vitamin 'C' and 'V' both. Both were great and were a good price. So I can add my recommendation to this guy as well! So have fun!

Have fun and safe Mongering!

US

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[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]Maybe you misunderstood my comment about your post. I mean we want to see naked women you made a recommendation about a place, that’s ok but the photos might be too much, is like you are selling the place.

Let’s forget my comments and congratulation for the golden time girl. May be you could share her phone.[/QUOTE]I appreciated the photos of your rental and think that's a fair price for a week's excursion. You could easily spend $2,000 - $3,000 if you included P4P at the abode.

[QUOTE=UnbornSon]Anyway I have been to Panama many times and so I pretty much hit the old faithfuls:

5) Hooters - Ok, yes I do love the wings but the girls make a great dessert! A few months ago I was able to take out a girl from here and had a great time with her. On almost every visit I have been very successful at getting their contact info for later dates. But this is probably a good option for some of the younger guys, I am a young 30's fairly good looking guy and can pick up girls at Hooters in the U.S. let alone Panama. But these girls are much more flirtatious and actually a lot of fun!

Have fun and safe Mongering![/QUOTE]Yes, I too had lots of success at Hooters. Banged only 1 girl, but all were interested in going out and gave-up the contact info.

[QUOTE=HoleRanger]Arrived on Friday night, first up La Bodequita. Got there at 10p. M. , still a little early but soon the inventory got real good. I selected this 20 y. O. From Cali (Karin) hoottt! (well she kinda chose me)[/quote]As always, staying with Panamacasa. Enclosed are some shots of the flat. This one is smaller than my last visit but the girls love it. 1 week $585. Be sure to negotiate your prices before they see the apt. Good location. 5 min walk to La Bodeguita. I also walk to Venetos area. About 15-20mins for excercise. All the normal goodies. Guards. Secure parking. Room safe. Etc.

Hope to have a few girly shots soon.

Enjoy!

Hole Ranger, does Panamacasa have a website or phone #. thanks

As my name implies, I love tanlines!

Last night, I decided to hit the casino's to win some extra spending money to fund my mongering extravaganza. Well, I only won 65 bucks all night, but hey, I figured it would be enough for a little fun at Oasis for the lunchtime special. So, I walked in and there were 8 girls lounging on the couch, and immediately they all stood in line. I paid the guy at the front desk 50 dollars and started choosing. I asked all of them their names and was looking for smiles, good attitudes, and of course tanlines! There was one that fit the template, and another one came close but was lacking the big tits. Sorry, I forgot their names. So I chose the little skinny spinner type with no tits. We had a great time and she gave excellent service. She had a nice little ass, with a faint G-string tanline. She was my little pornstar for a whole hour. BBBJ, multiple positions, and COB. All in all, pretty good deal for only 50 dollars, compliments of the Panama casinos.

IMHO, Oasis is highly underated. Girls are in the 7-8 range, but you can always find a 9 in there, and that lunchtime special ($55) is a good bargain.

I have only been to Panama for few hours. Here are my impressions (if I made any rookie mistakes, please don´t hammer me too hard!)
Nice airport, nice city, it had just rained, pretty clean city. From what I have seen so far, the Panamanian girls in the street are quite attractive, some of them are nice and tall, some dark, some light, nice bodies. So far I have been impressed. I went to a place called Royal Elegance Center, address is Via Porras No 71 en frente de la estacion Villa Lilla, 264-3313. The place is open 24 hours a day and I guess at night time there is quite a lot of drinking and smoking going on there. I was there around 5 PM. Picked up a Colombian beauty, 80 dollars for an hour, the works, very good, very polite, very professional. There were probably at least 10 girls there while I was there, and apparently more show up at night time. Nice rooms, sheets, showers, etc. I´d give it a thumbs up. Next I hit River Club, Via Argentina Galeria Alvear, Planta Baja, Local 12, 269-9437. Only two girls there, small rooms, good looking white Panamanian took care of me for 80 dollars, polite and very PROFESSIONAL, definitely not a GFE. Overall, I´d probably not go back there. Then I hit Golden Times, just like described, 95 dollars, tons of girls, at least 20 that I saw and tons of guys too! Men just rolling in there, there were probably at least 20 guys(clients) while I was there. I took a girl named Jessica, brunette with surgically enhanced breasts, supposedly here from Medellin for only one month. Excellent service, I gave her a 20 dollar tip just because I felt like it. I will definitely go back if I get a chance. I hired a taxi driver, for 7 dollars an hour and he turned out to be a good guy, I prefer to pay a little more but stay with the same taxi driver as opposed to go with 20 different drivers.
So my first impressions of Panama are quite positive. Paid sex seems to be on the expensive side, but the girls are very cute and professional, it´s worth every penny.

Fellas, I need your help! I'm planning a return trip (see my last PTY trip report, its the bomb) to Panama City for a short stay (3 days. More importantly 3 nights). I know the chica friendliness of hotels sometimes changes, so, I was wondering if anyone could recommend chica friendly hotels (especially in the Banking District area) that are reasonable in price. I don't want to spend $500 in hotel stay for a 3 day trip on top of a $300 plane ticket, then money on chicas. Veneto is currently running at $188/nt for when I want to stay. Looking for something at about $100 or less that isn't a hole in the wall, but is chica friendly and within walking distance Bodeguita, Oasis, Habano's, Elite II, casinos.

Thanks in advance.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Fellas, I need your help! I'm planning a return trip (see my last PTY trip report, its the bomb) to Panama City for a short stay (3 days. More importantly 3 nights). I know the chica friendliness of hotels sometimes changes, so, I was wondering if anyone could recommend chica friendly hotels (especially in the Banking District area) that are reasonable in price. I don't want to spend $500 in hotel stay for a 3 day trip on top of a $300 plane ticket, then money on chicas. Veneto is currently running at $188/nt for when I want to stay. Looking for something at about $100 or less that isn't a hole in the wall, but is chica friendly and within walking distance Bodeguita, Oasis, Habano's, Elite II, casinos.[/QUOTE]

Try Las Vegas Suites. It's about 50 meters from the Veneto, and rooms are around $60-80/nt. Much less if you get a weekly rate.

[QUOTE=Member #2041]Try Las Vegas Suites. It's about 50 meters from the Veneto, and rooms are around $60-80/nt. Much less if you get a weekly rate.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the PMs. I forgot all about this one. I walked by it all the time on my last trip when I went to the Chinese laundry around the corner. Thanks for the insight! I checked the website and it looks pretty good. $180/3 nights is alot better than for 1 night.

Rodeo

I had a couple of Columbia girls tell me they were stay at Economy Hotel in Pamana city but i can not find it does any one know of it. They would call me from a Internet store whose number are 507-370-0303- 507--380-0932 any help from some one on the ground would be great ill be in next week.

Thank you

[QUOTE=PaulGore]I had a couple of Columbia girls tell me they were stay at Economy Hotel in Pamana city but i can not find it does any one know of it. They would call me from a Internet store whose number are 507-370-0303- 507--380-0932 any help from some one on the ground would be great ill be in next week.

Thank you[/QUOTE]

If Im not mistaken is Hotel Economico 2284621, is in a barrio called Santa Ana. Not a place that you want to be on your own if you dont speak fluent spanish or if you cant blend in with the locals.

This is the area near La Mayor, La Bocatorena and Acropol. Are the girls worth the trouble? Hot looking?

greetings!!! long time no post here!!!

My impressions on the SW activity lately. IMHO is has been eradicated. I havent been able to spot a single one in the frequent places(near Venetto and El Panama).
Seems like the crackdown has been real hard. Additional spots near the National Lotery report 0 or tranny activity.

I think best bet is the personals in the newspapers. Additional note: Cotton Club went down as a strip joint and turned into a regular club. Has 3 restaurants inside. Havent been able to check it. Gonna take a look this weekend and will report back

I appreciate the post on Las Vegas Suites as well. I was looking for a hotel and decided to check it out. 60 dollars a night, huge room, even has a big refrigerator, a microwave and an extra sink. Nice and clean. The only minor inconvenience is that they need an additional deposit before you can use the phone, so here I was in my room trying to use the phone and I had to go back down again and leave some additional money. I had paid cash, maybe you won't have to do that if paying by credit card.

Try to avoid the hotel El Parador (or some name like that). Some of the taxi drivers seem to steer you that way, 60 dollars a night as well, and it's not even comparable to Las Vegas Suites. I did stay there one night when I didn't know any better. Just use El Parador as your very last option.

I am coming in on the 19th.

The hotel weeb sites have been coming up no rooms.

I know its Easter week.

Does any one have numbers for hotels?

I thought most people would be leaving the city this week.

I am rent a jeep aim.

I am heading to the country, which I was planing later in the week and coming back to the city after the Holidays.

I accompanied a couple of visiting gringos to Habano's and La Bodeguita this weekend. Habano's had a great selection at 11 pm on a Friday night. One of the women-from the lower rungs of the looks scale available that night-quoted me $150/hr. My half-hearted attempts to reduced the price were rebuffed. For reasons unrelated to pricing, we left without any friends.

La Bodeguita was jam packed with typically hot and friendly colombianas on Monday night. A buddy found a really attractive one and took off. Being a newby gringo I figured he was paying top dollar, but I eventually found out he only paid $150. I again identified another one that was near the bottom of the scale (though the scale is quite elevated there) that I figured was more susceptible to a lower rate. She quoted me $200/hr. I didn't even bother to negotiate from that starting point and eventually left alone.

Hotel Ejecutivo/Executive Hotel fits the bill, although they were charging $10 for dates a couple of years ago. If she's dressed normally (not like a hooker) and you come in during daytime you can walk right in. Las Vegas Suites sounds like it might be a better buy though, from Member's & J.G.'s descriptions.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Fellas, I need your help! I'm planning a return trip (see my last PTY trip report, its the bomb) to Panama City for a short stay (3 days. More importantly 3 nights). I know the chica friendliness of hotels sometimes changes, so, I was wondering if anyone could recommend chica friendly hotels (especially in the Banking District area) that are reasonable in price. I don't want to spend $500 in hotel stay for a 3 day trip on top of a $300 plane ticket, then money on chicas. Veneto is currently running at $188/nt for when I want to stay. Looking for something at about $100 or less that isn't a hole in the wall, but is chica friendly and within walking distance Bodeguita, Oasis, Habano's, Elite II, casinos.

Thanks in advance.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

I Advice to you not pay 150 dollars , because as long as you pay that price, hookers will rise the prices for massages and company. A price of 100 dollars is enough and if you can negociate you can find girls for 50 dollars.

I was just there March 1-5 and stayed at the las vegas suite corp rate 58 very nice like an apartment, with the girls I just right in to the elevator no problem. Went to habrano's and they do quote 150 told the girl 100 or I going to Panama disco dance and find something for less. She stayed and I went got one from there for 50. At bogaritas on a Monday, very hotties there, at 11 I spy the one I want buy her drink we dance, no discusion of price went to hotel around 1:30 she stayed until 10 in the morning with as much s. X as I wanted very pleasing cost for this beuatiful 25 year old 200. Very cost effective. Found also a little panamaian on the street 21, for 100 4 hours, and of course first off the plane oasis for the 75 good time with 22. Went to local night club, called mayor with a local taxi tour guide, would not go there alone gringo, but with him very good time and the shows of your life un belieable. And this is all from a 53 year ol gringo. I, post pics of the street girl and the all night colombian.

Hello Guys!

From the threads here on the forum I can see that some of you contributors have alot more experience in Panama than me, so I adress this question on this thread:

From what I understand:

If you are married or have children with a woman from Panama - You can live and run your own small business in Panama legally.

This seems to be the cheepest and most smooth way to get recidency and to get going with your company in Panama.

However, if the girl decides to leave you (divorce) - and that has happend MANY good guys before - Will she be able to take "half the house and half the wallet" when she leaves, or is it possible to, in some way "protect" your business from beeing "stolen"?

I do not by any means whant to be sneaky or unfair towards the girl - no way. I just don't want to get "robbed on my business" because she wants money.

I have not been able to find good information on the subject, but maybe you guys can help me with some basic guidelines.

Best regards, and hope for some info / Ken Apples

Apples: if you'll have a business I would think you'll have a corporation (less tax and legal protection) thus in the event of divorce she might have a tough time proving you are the real owner. In my case the three directors are panamanians who work for my lawyer, but I am the only one who can go to the bank and deposit or withdraw money! I got married to a panamanian but all my assests in the corporation. No problems so far.

To you other guys, I CAN'T BELIEVE THE PRICES you guys pay! I was in the El Dorado Mall across from Goldentimes and I was was stared down by local women trying to make eye contact, she smiled and walked up to me only to turn away when my wife came out from another store. Bfore I got married I could take one of these home for the night, buy her dinner and offer $50 as a gift in the morning, they really wanted a novio. To support them. There are many available women, but if you stay in Habanos and La Boge. You will be paying full retail. If you're a tourist in for a few days, ok, but if you have time get over to Albrook Mall, or some of the local malls, El Dorado, Los Andes, or Los Pueblos, where the locals are (much less Colombianas) and you might strike gold.

[QUOTE=Mr Fox]I Advice to you not pay 150 dollars , because as long as you pay that price, hookers will rise the prices for massages and company. A price of 100 dollars is enough and if you can negociate you can find girls for 50 dollars.[/QUOTE]

not even $100, $70 should be your top limit, and I do hope everyone in the board should follow this line, if you guys, yes the big spenders, keep complying with these outrageous prices, in the end we all are gonna end up screwed up on the prices.

we are the ones paying, we should decide how much we want to spend, not them!

For $70 I might be able to get an all nighter with a stunner

[QUOTE=GauntMan]not even $100, $70 should be your top limit, and I do hope everyone in the board should follow this line, if you guys, yes the big spenders, keep complying with these outrageous prices, in the end we all are gonna end up screwed up on the prices.[/QUOTE]

The point of my post was that we already are screwed. I was just telling like it is.

La Bodeguita and Habanos looked to be filled with people like my buddy: middle aged guys used to dropping three bills on table dances from skanks at a mid-american strip club. One pop with a colombian hotbody for $150 is an outrageous bargain for them.

Unfortunately, I would bet that readers of this excellent board probably only constitute 5% (at best) of the crowd at those two places, so I doubt that the pleadings about pricing will have any effect, as much as I might agree with them.

Last year I comment about the high prices some people are paying. Right now, the hookers as soon they saw you are foreigner will ask for no less than $100.00. That’s too much. In Panama the minimum wage is $300.00 and in Colombia from most of the hookers come from is even less, so take a moment and think again when you are willing to pay more than $80.00 because you are ruining this place.

I don’t live in Panama but I travel frequently because of my job so I don’t want the prices go high so please avoid at all cost paying over $100.00.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]The point of my post was that we already are screwed. I was just telling like it is.

La Bodeguita and Habanos looked to be filled with people like my buddy: middle aged guys used to dropping three bills on table dances from skanks at a mid-american strip club. One pop with a colombian hotbody for $150 is an outrageous bargain for them.

Unfortunately, I would bet that readers of this excellent board probably only constitute 5% (at best) of the crowd at those two places, so I doubt that the pleadings about pricing will have any effect, as much as I might agree with them.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Fox]I Advice to you not pay 150 dollars , because as long as you pay that price, hookers will rise the prices for massages and company. A price of 100 dollars is enough and if you can negociate you can find girls for 50 dollars.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GuantMan]not even $100, $70 should be your top limit, and I do hope everyone in the board should follow this line, if you guys, yes the big spenders, keep complying with these outrageous prices, in the end we all are gonna end up screwed up on the prices.

we are the ones paying, we should decide how much we want to spend, not them!

For $70 I might be able to get an all nighter with a stunner[/QUOTE]This is when being a "Real Man" and not "trick" take effect! Erase the fact that you can buy (pay) for the p*ssy and revert to talking the panties off.

These wh*res are available for sale, but they still like to get f*cked by "Real Men."

After all, most of you guys talked your wife into bed, and she's charging you 50% of your assets upon divorce, so talking a hooker into bed for free should be easy.

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples]Hello Guys!

From the threads here on the forum I can see that some of you contributors have alot more experience in Panama than me, so I adress this question on this thread:

From what I understand:

If you are married or have children with a woman from Panama - You can live and run your own small business in Panama legally.

This seems to be the cheepest and most smooth way to get recidency and to get going with your company in Panama.

However, if the girl decides to leave you (divorce) - and that has happend MANY good guys before - Will she be able to take "half the house and half the wallet" when she leaves, or is it possible to, in some way "protect" your business from beeing "stolen"?

I do not by any means whant to be sneaky or unfair towards the girl - no way. I just don't want to get "robbed on my business" because she wants money.

I have not been able to find good information on the subject, but maybe you guys can help me with some basic guidelines.

Best regards, and hope for some info / Ken Apples[/QUOTE]Just to make sure I got this right...you're trying to marry and/or have kids with some random girl and keep her around all so you can have better property rights? Ha ha, that is pimp my brother. Pure pimp!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Just to make sure I got this right...you're trying to marry and/or have kids with some random girl and keep her around all so you can have better property rights? Ha ha, that is pimp my brother. Pure pimp!

Rodeo[/QUOTE]To all you guys out there that are thinking about getting married with a panamenian:

Can you say prenuptial agreement?

I couldn't bare the idea of men stripped down to nada after the senõra wants to divorce yer ass. I mean this is happening all over the place. Fucking vampires they are.

If she gives you a hard time about the prenup. Move on!

Suerte

Johan

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples]Hello Guys!

From the threads here on the forum I can see that some of you contributors have alot more experience in Panama than me, so I adress this question on this thread:

From what I understand:

If you are married or have children with a woman from Panama - You can live and run your own small business in Panama legally.

This seems to be the cheepest and most smooth way to get recidency and to get going with your company in Panama.

However, if the girl decides to leave you (divorce) - and that has happend MANY good guys before - Will she be able to take "half the house and half the wallet" when she leaves, or is it possible to, in some way "protect" your business from beeing "stolen"?

I do not by any means whant to be sneaky or unfair towards the girl - no way. I just don't want to get "robbed on my business" because she wants money.

I have not been able to find good information on the subject, but maybe you guys can help me with some basic guidelines.

Best regards, and hope for some info / Ken Apples[/QUOTE]Panama is an extremely easy country to establish companies (corporations) and have full rights: Non-Panamanien Citizens.

Sorry, but I have some bad news for all of you who may have been interested.

My gal (the black cheerleader type) went AWOL. I do not think that I can help anyone with regards to getting a hold of her in the future.

Sorry, but I do not want anyone to think that she might be their plan "B" or plan "C" girl. As of this date, she is "missing in action".

Permanent Damage

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples]Hello Guys!

From the threads here on the forum I can see that some of you contributors have alot more experience in Panama than me, so I adress this question on this thread:

From what I understand:

If you are married or have children with a woman from Panama - You can live and run your own small business in Panama legally.

This seems to be the cheepest and most smooth way to get recidency and to get going with your company in Panama.

However, if the girl decides to leave you (divorce) - and that has happend MANY good guys before - Will she be able to take "half the house and half the wallet" when she leaves, or is it possible to, in some way "protect" your business from beeing "stolen"?

I do not by any means whant to be sneaky or unfair towards the girl - no way. I just don't want to get "robbed on my business" because she wants money.

I have not been able to find good information on the subject, but maybe you guys can help me with some basic guidelines.

Best regards, and hope for some info / Ken Apples[/QUOTE]Sometimes pre-nups dont get the job done depending on how much you're worth and how many assests your name is on.

I know in thew states you can get assest protection like LLC's (Limited Liability Company) and FLP's (Family Limited Partnership) which adds additional layers of protection incase chica files for a divorce...I'm pretty sure panama got similar protection comparable to these

Arch

[QUOTE=His Archness]Sometimes pre-nups dont get the job done depending on how much you're worth and how many assests your name is on.

I know in thew states you can get assest protection like LLC's (Limited Liability Company) and FLP's (Family Limited Partnership) which adds additional layers of protection incase chica files for a divorce...I'm pretty sure panama got similar protection comparable to these

Arch[/QUOTE]Why even get married? I hope it's not to have access to the p*ssy. Hell, you're already f*ckin' her so what are you going to gain by marriage? Guaranteed p*ssy whenever you want? Doubt it, more hoops to jump through 'cause she can't be fired.

If you're thinking marriage gives you some advantage in commercial endeavors (property, licensing, etcetera) the answer is no! You want a loan to purchase a car; you want less flexibility in real estate financing; you want citizenship so you can stay there permanently? 2 years of marriage for citizenship. Anyone thinking about getting financing in Central America with rates of 9%. 16% per annum when North America is 4. 5% Prime is foolish. Therefore, you must, as always has been the case, come down with money-in-hand.

Panama is the world's second largest banking center which means capital and wealth management and obviously the laws (government) want the money to stay within the country which means you have full rights in commercial endeavors.

I don't know your motives, but the above is just some information.

Good Luck

I meant to say #2 location in the world for international banking, only after Switzerland.

And I was referring to the original post concerning marriage a few days ago.

Thanks

This forum is for discussing sex matters not financial issues. I could understand your information needs but isn’t the place to discuss these topics.

[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]This forum is for discussing sex matters not financial issues. I could understand your information needs but isn’t the place to discuss these topics.[/QUOTE]Sorry, Just Trying to Increase my Post Count.

My first post. Have visited most of Latin America, Europe and Asia. Made my first visit to Panama City March Fri 21 to Mon 24. Stayed at El Panama. After settling in hotel went to Good Time around 10.00 pm but closed (Good Friday). Taxi took me to Miami but also closed, but was told they open at midnight. Returned after midnight, not too bad in spite of unenthusiastic striptease. Went with “Chilli?” (6) Columbiana not from any of the major cities there. CBJ, mish, doggy but refused DATY. I kept asking for DATY and she ultimately told me I have to pay extra. She told me $40 I really wanted it and offered $20 which she accepted. I probably broke a rule here but needed to spice up the encounter. Ended with doggy and spilt leche on derriere which I enjoy doing. All in all average encounter with Columbiana who, from my experience, are not as good providers as other Latin Americans such as Brazilians and Salvadorians.

Did too much sightseeing the following day and was too tired for a Sat night trip to Golden Time but visited around 6.30 pm on Sunday. Nice lineup for three Johns including myself. Given pen and paper by mamasan. Wrote numbers and my grades during lineup. Graded very friendly looking smiling no. 8 as 9 but slow on the draw as she was chosen by another guy. Next in order of grade on my list was no. 30 (Juliana) who I rated 7 . Went with her. Room was very much like doctor’s office so I called her Dr. Juliana and she called me patient. For those interested she spoke good English. Told me she spent some time in US. Again, Columbiana from Medellin, average. Tried to impress me with lots of noise which I really don’t like but much better than my encounter at Miami. CBJ, fingering, mish, doggy but again refused DATY. Also wanted more for DATY but I refused and finished doggy.

From my short stay there it appears that Panama is a good destination for Colombiana lovers. If I do visit again I will check out some other establishments.

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[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]This forum is for discussing sex matters not financial issues. I could understand your information needs but isn’t the place to discuss these topics.[/QUOTE]

I think financial issues are interesting and enjoy reading about them.

That should be 8.30 pm Sunday rather than 6.30 pm.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I think financial issues are interesting and enjoy reading about them.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps a Financial thread should be open to satisfy you and the others.

Down by the fish market this great bar called Boca Torena the girls are mostly from Cali and D.R. total cost for sex is ten dollars four the room six for the girl good value. I ran into a lot of girls that work campo alegre there were the better looking ones. I spent the better part of two weeks there one dollar a beer I had good results in the day lite hours. There was a guy out front to watch the car got friendly with some of the girls and they keep an eye on me inside you got the huevos to go keep your eyes open it is very dark inside and when you first go in day time your blinded by the dark till your eyes change. Do not go there drunk or get drunk and I was there by my self and was told I was the first gringo they saw in boca Torena.

[QUOTE=PaulGore]Down by the fish market this great bar called Boca Torena the girls are mostly from Cali and D.R. total cost for sex is ten dollars four the room six for the girl good value. I ran into a lot of girls that work campo alegre there were the better looking ones. I spent the better part of two weeks there one dollar a beer I had good results in the day lite hours. There was a guy out front to watch the car got friendly with some of the girls and they keep an eye on me inside you got the huevos to go keep your eyes open it is very dark inside and when you first go in day time your blinded by the dark till your eyes change. Do not go there drunk or get drunk and I was there by my self and was told I was the first gringo they saw in boca Torena.[/QUOTE]Mr. Paul Gore,

Further understanding is needed regarding the directions of Boca Torena. The fish market has about four (4) brothels located next to each other. La Mayor and three others. They are open 24-hours too. Gringos can be seen in La Mayor on occassion, but the other three alongside rarely.

I just want to make sure this is the same place and area since you say the fish market. Everyone just refers to the brothels in this area as La Mayor.

On the side entrance to the fish market with the market on your left and the chinese archway on your right go straight past some stalls on your left they make bird cages the road turns right at the water front follow down almost to the end the water will be on your left on your right there is a small open cafe next store is it. There is a sign over the door ask anyone around there they will tell you were it is . Great little place there is a walk through to another bar in the back you will love it i wish I could be there today. But will be in campo alegre next week my favorite place they have a great gym over looking the caribbean sea. The fish market has a good restaurant up stairs with a great fish soup and down stairs great chevcies at the different stalls. Did any run into this girl working in Panama last may and June she goes by the name Carolina when she was working at Boca Torena she used the name Morena she told me she was working at Economy Hotel cleaning rooms but when i went to Economy Hotel they told me she was staying there but not working at the hotel but at Boca Torena. She was there with another girl named Daisey who is working in sxm know.

[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]Perhaps a Financial thread should be open to satisfy you and the others.[/QUOTE]I saw many forreign banks in Panama City. Thats always a good sign. Also they have a bank secrecy. Just like Switserland, Luxemburg and other similar countries.

It was not very difficult to open an banc account there. I don't know about actual savings rates or stuff like this. Right now Icelandic banks in Luxemburg are doing good by an average of 7-10 (! ) procent. On anual bases

Banking seems a good business in Panama and the banks seem to make good money. The funny thing I saw (which we don't have in the Nethreland and also NOT in germany) are these drive-in ATM. Were you can stay in your car and take money out of the atm. ! Outstanding. I wish we had something like that here.

For all this you need a stable economy and above all a stable democratic government.

IMHO Panama has the least corruptcy level of all CA and SA. However I do know that for Panamenians their banks for daily usage are NOT cheap. !

Also Panama has a widely spread ATM network. And with my Dutch banc card I could easely take out US dollars out of them everywere.

Johan

[QUOTE=PaulGore]On the side entrance to the fish market with the market on your left and the chinese archway on your right go straight past some stalls on your left they make bird cages the road turns right at the water front follow down almost to the end the water will be on your left on your right there is a small open cafe next store is it. There is a sign over the door ask anyone around there they will tell you were it is . Great little place there is a walk through to another bar in the back you will love it i wish I could be there today. But will be in campo alegre next week my favorite place they have a great gym over looking the caribbean sea. The fish market has a good restaurant up stairs with a great fish soup and down stairs great chevcies at the different stalls. Did any run into this girl working in Panama last may and June she goes by the name Carolina when she was working at Boca Torena she used the name Morena she told me she was working at Economy Hotel cleaning rooms but when i went to Economy Hotel they told me she was staying there but not working at the hotel but at Boca Torena. She was there with another girl named Daisey who is working in sxm know.[/QUOTE]It sounds like this is a totally different place than I referred to earlier. Nice photos.

Those photos are of a girl that worked at Boca Torena. She work at Boca torena under the name Morena last May and June. She worked Colon under the name Carolina off and on for the past four years. She is working in Aruba. I thought someone might know her in Panama she would stay at the Economy Hotel.

Here was my take on Bodeguitas and Habanos. I don’t have the patience for strolling casinos or popular hangouts and I find the whole massage parlor thing too clinical.

Anyway, Bodeguitas was way too fucking loud and too fucking dark. It was impossible to have a decent conversation as the music is blaring and you can’t really get a good look at the girl as the fucking laser lights and flashing bullshit practically blinds you. I paid my $10 at the door, which inlcuded 2 beers or 1 mixed drink, and saddled up to the bar. The crowd was mostly hispanic, the drink of choice appeared to be rum and coke, and the girls were all Columbians. Now there were some extremely attractive girls of all shapes and sizes… and tons of silicone.

Habanos on the other hand had mostly American dudes hanging out and drinking beer. The music wasn’t loud and the lights were fine, so you could actually talk to a girl for a while first and get a good look at her. Cig smoke on the inside was pretty thick, so I sat out on the front deck, sipped beers and smiled at the chicas. The dumbass running the cigar shop side of this establishment would occasionally chastise the girls for standing in front of the door. I guess the dumb fuck doesn’t realize that the only reason people go to this place is for the women.

Prices ranged at both places between $100 to $250 an hour. A little patience and little negotiating skill goes a long way as the girls obviously start out on the high end. Its tough to negotiate at Bodeguitas because of the noise, but I pulled a girl for $100. Unfortunately, after getting her home and under some bright lights, she dropped a couple numbers on the rating scale.

One extremely hot girl with giant fake tits and a spectacular ass offered me anal for $200 at Habanos. She was pretty pissed when I refused, to the point of it being comical. She kept going on and on of her astonishment that I would refuse anal with her. She even upped her offering to BBBJ. I let her rant and act all indignant for awhile and told her I’d take her home for $100, but insisted on covered and straight sex only. She took the bait, I think because she was more pissed than anything, and I ass fucked her anyway. Damn it was funny, good deal for $100.

Hello all,

Does anyone know know if Radisson decapolis is chica friendly?

Do they allow guest or not?

Thanks

Regards Fokker

I was in Panama this weekend. I passed on Bodeguitas because I thought the guy was scamming me on the $10 cover charge, seemed a little too loud though.

Le Palace seems to have dropped a few notches. It's bad enough they have full NY prices, but now the girls seem right out of "Columbian Central Casting". I didn't see a natutral rack in the hour I was there.

Golden Times seems to have the best value.

I took two girls out of the Veneto one night for $60 each, though it took a lot of scouting to find decent quality.

[QUOTE=Maltrufio]Here was my take on Bodeguitas and Habanos. I don’t have the patience for strolling casinos or popular hangouts and I find the whole massage parlor thing too clinical.

Anyway, Bodeguitas was way too fucking loud and too fucking dark. It was impossible to have a decent conversation as the music is blaring and you can’t really get a good look at the girl as the fucking laser lights and flashing bullshit practically blinds you. I paid my $10 at the door, which inlcuded 2 beers or 1 mixed drink, and saddled up to the bar. The crowd was mostly hispanic, the drink of choice appeared to be rum and coke, and the girls were all Columbians. Now there were some extremely attractive girls of all shapes and sizes… and tons of silicone.

Habanos on the other hand had mostly American dudes hanging out and drinking beer. The music wasn’t loud and the lights were fine, so you could actually talk to a girl for a while first and get a good look at her. Cig smoke on the inside was pretty thick, so I sat out on the front deck, sipped beers and smiled at the chicas. The dumbass running the cigar shop side of this establishment would occasionally chastise the girls for standing in front of the door. I guess the dumb fuck doesn’t realize that the only reason people go to this place is for the women.

Prices ranged at both places between $100 to $250 an hour. A little patience and little negotiating skill goes a long way as the girls obviously start out on the high end. Its tough to negotiate at Bodeguitas because of the noise, but I pulled a girl for $100. Unfortunately, after getting her home and under some bright lights, she dropped a couple numbers on the rating scale.

One extremely hot girl with giant fake tits and a spectacular ass offered me anal for $200 at Habanos. She was pretty pissed when I refused, to the point of it being comical. She kept going on and on of her astonishment that I would refuse anal with her. She even upped her offering to BBBJ. I let her rant and act all indignant for awhile and told her I’d take her home for $100, but insisted on covered and straight sex only. She took the bait, I think because she was more pissed than anything, and I ass fucked her anyway. Damn it was funny, good deal for $100.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Maltrufio]Here was my take on Bodeguitas and Habanos. I don’t have the patience for strolling casinos or popular hangouts and I find the whole massage parlor thing too clinical.

Anyway, Bodeguitas was way too fucking loud and too fucking dark. It was impossible to have a decent conversation as the music is blaring and you can’t really get a good look at the girl as the fucking laser lights and flashing bullshit practically blinds you. I paid my $10 at the door, which inlcuded 2 beers or 1 mixed drink, and saddled up to the bar. The crowd was mostly hispanic, the drink of choice appeared to be rum and coke, and the girls were all Columbians. Now there were some extremely attractive girls of all shapes and sizes… and tons of silicone.

Habanos on the other hand had mostly American dudes hanging out and drinking beer. The music wasn’t loud and the lights were fine, so you could actually talk to a girl for a while first and get a good look at her. Cig smoke on the inside was pretty thick, so I sat out on the front deck, sipped beers and smiled at the chicas. The dumbass running the cigar shop side of this establishment would occasionally chastise the girls for standing in front of the door. I guess the dumb fuck doesn’t realize that the only reason people go to this place is for the women.

Prices ranged at both places between $100 to $250 an hour. A little patience and little negotiating skill goes a long way as the girls obviously start out on the high end. Its tough to negotiate at Bodeguitas because of the noise, but I pulled a girl for $100. Unfortunately, after getting her home and under some bright lights, she dropped a couple numbers on the rating scale.

One extremely hot girl with giant fake tits and a spectacular ass offered me anal for $200 at Habanos. She was pretty pissed when I refused, to the point of it being comical. She kept going on and on of her astonishment that I would refuse anal with her. She even upped her offering to BBBJ. I let her rant and act all indignant for awhile and told her I’d take her home for $100, but insisted on covered and straight sex only. She took the bait, I think because she was more pissed than anything, and I ass fucked her anyway. Damn it was funny, good deal for $100.[/QUOTE]

I don't know about other forum members, but I for one appreciate this candor and genuine type of report. I hate the super-noise, super-smoke, super-hype places, ESPECIALLY when the girl is freakin' LUCKY to come across a great guy, decent (or better) looks & attitude ... they have NO RIGHT as the purveyors to demand and insist (speakin' of attitude!) ... hell, we get that treatment here in the US of A ! Puh-leeze!

how do you say "rep002 or i want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in your month" in spanish?

Why would you want to say that? Nobody here is going to contribute to you getting your ass kicked.

Does anyone know of this bar?

Thanks

Mel

[QUOTE=Beavis]Why would you want to say that? Nobody here is going to contribute to you getting your ass kicked.[/QUOTE]


"A Pervert is just someone kinky than you."

Mel, do a search. It's one of the best pickup spots for freelancers. It gets going late.

Max, try "Te pagaria $(fill in amount) si pudiera orinar en tu boca." And just make damn sure the amount is 3 digits and you're in a safe place or you probably will get your ass kicked.

Next trip to Panama I'm only going to be able to monger on Sunday, and remember it sucked last time, so I want to make better plans this time around.

Are La Bodeguita, Habanos, and Miami open on Sunday? Are they any good on Sunday?

Have the hookers returned to the Veneto Casino? If you're a guest, is the hotel girl friendly right now?

Thanks!

Habanos is closed on Sundays.

Bodeguita, Miami, Golden Time are all open.

Radisson Decapolis is girl friendly.

Habanos closed on Sunday night, other are open

La Bodeguita - do not pay $10 before 11 pm

Hookers actually have never left Veneto

Thanks Questner, Seminole. I was hunting around one Sunday night a couple of years ago. The selection at GT sucked and Habanos and Le Palace were closed. I wandered into Elite, got drunk, and blew about $400 on booze and poontang. Thanks to your advice that won't happen again.

Has anybody been to the las vegas suites lately? Is it still chica friendly? Will be passing pty 06/01 to 06/03 on the way back from Costa Rica.

I was at the Las Vegas suites March and no problem.

Just walk in and go to elevator nobody ask anything.

Hey guys,

I'm heading to Panama City for the first time after stumbling on a sub-$300 round trip fair 14 days in advance with direct flights out of Newark. I've never done much research and don't have much time, was hoping I could get some advice on a hotel. I've been to Rio 5 times, all over CR, DR, Thailand, Medellin, Lima, Buenos Aires, etc, I know how it all works and can find the places to go, but have some unique requests in lodging. I like to have unquestionable girl friendliness in a hotel. Also, I need an outdoor pool. Hell, I don't need an outdoor pool scene, I don't need floating bars and I don't even need a lifeguard. Hell, I probably won't go in the damn water. What I need is a place where I can grab my newspaper, my Portuguese study materials, and sit outside and get some sun (weather permitting of course) for something like 4 hours. I don't need to stay at a nice place. My last need is for things to be as close to ground zero as possible.

I don't mind spending a few extra bucks on a hotel but I really don't want to go overboard either. I don't want to stay far away.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Outdoor sun area where I can lay out.

Close to the centrally located action as possible.

Girl friendly.

Don't want to break bank, but will pay for it.

ANy help is much appreciated, will definitely report on my thoughts on Panama City. Arrive May 2, depart May 5th.

Very much appreciated, I'll catch up on the rest over the next two weeks.

Ciao,

IHE

Icy, Montreal Hotel would probably be your best bet if you really want something reasonably-priced and close to ground zero. If you're willing to pay more and spend some time in a taxi, I'd pick Plaza Paitilla, if you can get it for, say $80 or under.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Icy, Montreal Hotel would probably be your best bet if you really want something reasonably-priced and close to ground zero. If you're willing to pay more and spend some time in a taxi, I'd pick Plaza Paitilla, if you can get it for, say $80 or under.[/QUOTE]I don't mind spending up to $100 a night, if I get everything I wanted. I looked up Montreal and didn't see a pool. It doesn't seem like LV Suites has a place to get some sun. Anyone have any ideas? Very Much appreciated, can't wait to get there!

I think Torres de Alba is a great fit for you. Great location next to the Veneto, has pool and the best deal in Panama- about $80-$90 a night for a full suite.

[QUOTE=Icyhoteric]I don't mind spending up to $100 a night, if I get everything I wanted. I looked up Montreal and didn't see a pool. It doesn't seem like LV Suites has a place to get some sun. Anyone have any ideas? Very Much appreciated, can't wait to get there![/QUOTE]

Icy, the Montreal has a decent rooftop pool. Tbuss' pick is a little better located and probably considerably nicer (never stayed there so don't know.) Montreal would be considerably cheaper.

[QUOTE=Tbuss]I think Torres de Alba is a great fit for you. Great location next to the Veneto, has pool and the best deal in Panama- about $80-$90 a night for a full suite.[/QUOTE]Tbuss - Thanks so much. Veneto has a group staying there, best available is a junior suite at @ $260/night, outlandish!! This place looks absolutely fine for me, perfect location, has an outdoor pool. I assume it is but I want to confirm, is it chica friendly? I'll probably do more onsite and grab a love motel or two, but need the option.

Seriously appreciate the info, wouldn't have found the place without the advice. I'll be sure to report back!!

Ciao,

IHE

[QUOTE=Icyhoteric]Anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Try the Executive. Pool, with wireless access pool-side (although they charge you $5.95 for it), a block from Habanos, no hassles or extra charges for bringing in temporarily girlfriends, room safe, fridge, clean, etc. And what's up with the gay porn star username?

Maltrufio, they charged me $10 and had the girl register when I'd bring one back late in the evenings that they pretty much knew was a hooker. During the daytime there was no problem, although the woman I took to the room wasn't dressed like a prostitute. I've stayed there 2 or 3 times and like the place -- no problems with street noise because the A/C drowns it out, and it has a nice restaurant where hookers from Le Palace and Elite go in the early morning hours. Also a good business center if you need to fax or print or help from a bilingual secretary.


[QUOTE=Maltrufio]Try the Executive. Pool, with wireless access pool-side (although they charge you $5.95 for it), a block from Habanos, no hassles or extra charges for bringing in temporarily girlfriends, room safe, fridge, clean, etc. And what's up with the gay porn star username?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]... they charged me $10 and had the girl register...[/QUOTE]
no shit? I walked right in with obvious professionals, 3 nights in a row, and didn't pay a dime extra. On 2 of the nights, the guy asked for my room number, and I didn't even lie. Still no charges on the bill. This happened a couple of weeks ago.

Maltrufio, I was charged several times, only during the night time. The last time I stayed there was maybe a year and a half ago. Except for one time when I walked straight to the elevator and the guy in reception made a big deal of it, it was a pretty painless process -- the woman would show her I.D. at the desk, I'd get charged, and we'd go to the room. At night there usually weren't many people in the lobby and it only cost $10 so it wasn't a big deal.

Good to hear they didn't check you -- again, I agree, it's comfortable and decent value for the money.

Hey guys,

You'rer crazy.

This is the place you want to be Baro Boca Toreno ten dollars for pus.

PaulGore, not sure what you mean by, "Baro Boca Toreno" is the place to be. Is that a hotel, or some pick-up place? (my first time in PTY)
Anyway, I'm paying $70/night at Las Vegas, but for me it's only about a 1-star hotel, maybe 2-star, by U.S. standards. Don't get me wrong - I don't expect U.S. quality outside the U.S. for $70/night, but I would at least like a comfortable bed and semi-quiet room. I'm on the 8th floor but the sun pours in at 5:30 AM and the traffic (beep-beep, honk-honk) is nearly constant, so if you're a light sleeper, better hope you don't have to work the next day like I did.
I brought one girl back for an hour last night, around 2 AM, and the front desk lady only gave me a disapproving look, but that was the extent of it (like I cared).
My room has a digital safe, but no one knew how to use it until finally today the lock company fax'd them some instructions, which the hotel put underneath my door while I was at the MultiCenter Pacific mall for dinner.
The wireless (and wired) in my room works fine, except for one short outage today while I was working.
Had to go out and buy shampoo & conditioner - I quit traveling with those because (1) airline security with regard to liquids, and (2) every hotel I stay at always has small bottles of it. Not here, though.
Prices for nearly everything here are U.S. equivalents, except maybe taxi rides.
More about chicas and 'the scene' next post.

Try the Hotel Milan straight down the block from the the Las Vegas. The bathroom and bedrooms are nicer, air conditioned and much safer than the Las Vegas.

Rooms are $57. 50 including tax, I'll be there Saturday. I ve been there 5 or 6 times in the last year. I stayed at the Vegas a couple of years ago and then discovered the Milan.

Yes, I do have (and will post) reports on chicas. Today I woke up after another short night (got back to the room at 3 AM - alone) and checked out of Las Vegas and into Marriott for only 20,000 points. And being fairly empty this weekend, they upgraded me (Platinum status) to a huge suite on the 20th floor, full access to Executive lounge of course. I *must* bring one (at least one - LOL) girl to this room tonight. Supposed to try hooking up with another Forum member - hope he gets my PM letting him know I've moved hotels! Too bad my flight's @ 7:30 AM tomorrow. :-(

More later....

Hey guys. Thanks for all the help.

And I had no idea about the gay porn star name at all. Which leads me to wonder how you knew about it? ! Haha. All in good fun.

So I hear a smoking ban went into place in Panama today, any word on the ground if it is being enforeced?

I'm givning Torres de alba a shot.

Got into town yesterday. Missed meeting with Mr. Vee due to his change of location. No problem though. Las Vegas suites is overpriced at $70 a night IMO.

Went to Veneto. Lots of talent. Mostly Colombianas with bolt-ons. I prefer real tits. I met a Panamanian girl with nice real ones. She spoke pretty good English. We had a couple of beers and I was having a good time. I asked for Todo La Noche. She wanted 300, so I offered 200 which I know is a lot but I heard Colombianas with boltons want 300 an hour nowadays which is USA rip off prices. Went back to my place and had a good time (stip tease, BJ, multiple positions, massage, she even sang for me) but then she wanted to leave early, so I offered her 100 to leave, but she wouldn't take it. She stayed but awould allow no more sexo, so finally after a couple of hours of cuddling, I got pissed off at her and told her to get the f out and threw 150 at her. She left and I guess I scared her, because she left her cell phone. I'll give it to her if she calls, but I'm not going to track this ***** down. It sounds like the practice of bait and switch has hit Veneto. That sucks.

It seems like Vento is rip off city nowadays. I talked to Mr. Vee and it sounds like he found the same.

Is there anywhere safe to go in this city to get a good todo la noche at a resonable price?

Free here....

Well lets see, considering I live here in PTY, if I were were in your shoes where would I go??

First Habanos, located DIRECTLY in front of the Hotel Marriot. The only thing there is the place is most time full of Colombians with fake tits. Sometimes you can find some with real ones and a few cuties from panama there also working. Bottom line its worth a try. BUT it is NOT open on Sundays. This is also a better option for someone that does not like the loud music, club scene. TLN probably about $200

Second La Boudaguita (I spelled it wrong im sure). Review the board for the correct location. A small club with colombians and SOME chics from pty. TLN will probably run you about $200, depends on how well you can "talk" to the girl, etc, etc. Warning, loud music, lots of people, BUT a great time to be had. Also this spot is open on sundays.

Now let me add my disclaimer, obviously the above options are NOT a guarantee (nothing is a guarantee with latin women) but worth a shot. If you want more info give hit me on PM. good luck.

Considering that weekly salaries in PTY remain at or around $100 per week, since when have we been paying $200 for TLN? To a street ho no less? I don't like to criticize, but are you serious? But I may have been stuck in a time warp or something. I have never paid more than $80 for TLN ($100 if you include a nice tip). When did this start to happen? Do you know what you are doing to the price structure of the PFP in this country if this continues? My, oh my; gentlemen. Things are getting tougher all over the planet, and we are outbidding ourselves (Ourselves only, by the way) by 100% for no reason. We need to keep prices in line, gentlemen. No one in Panama makes that kind of money in one night (Or whatever you arrange). For that kind of money, why don't you go to a Las Vegas legal brothel? It is their going rate on slow nights anyway. Trust me, only true saps pay that kind of money for anyone in PTY. It is like going to the store, seeing something valued at $50 and paying $100 to $150 because we can afford it. I know we can afford to do it; there are many of us with that kind of dispossible income, and it is cool. Just why would we do it? Trust me, there is no one patting anyone in the back for that kind of waste, especially when half would more than suffice in obtaining the service. If they want to charge that much, screw them. Offer half and wait. If you have any kind of game and she is in to you, she will relent. My last TLN in PTY was with an Oasis girl for $60 plus room service and some breakfast (This was in November 2007). I am not trying to brag or anything, but $200, are you kidding me? No way, no how this should be happening. Things are tough all over, people are struggling to keep their heads above water and we are doing this? Trust me, we are doing it to ourselves. Why do you think that places like Golden Time have kept the same price structure for all these years? Trust me, the girls are making a good amount of money (Out of the $84, they get half, half goes to management). Yes, $42 per hour is a lot and this is the best in the country. Pay a fair price for service rendered; just don't let them get the best of us like that. At this rate, GT would be charging at least $200 per hour. Would they be staying in business if they were? I don't think so. Think about it. We are outbidding ourselves for no reason. Just my observations...

I stayed at the Veneto this weekend. The hookers were out in force in the casino -- the place appears to have returned to its glory days, and I thought it was a little better than Habanos or La Bodeguita. There was absolutely no problem taking a woman to your room, in fact, the security guys on the casino level would push the button for you. The level of talent was up significantly in Oasis compared to the last time I was there. And prices in Elite are getting ridiculous -- they're up about 40-50% since last time I was there, about a year ago. Lady drinks are $18.90 a piece and you have to buy 10 for takeout. That's just the barfine, not counting what you have to pay the woman. They're charging $30 for the open bar now.

Voyager, I believe you are in a time warp. $200 for TLN is not unreasonable. I don't think most of us are going to get a "9" or a "10" for much less than that, unless there's some chemistry, or unless she has a long term agenda. You bring up Golden Time -- the charge there for TLN is $350, and if the woman gets half that's getting close to $200. Or we may be talking about two different things--yeah, if you pull from the bottom half of what's available, $200 is too much to pay. But BaitandSwitch was talking about an attractive woman with magnificent cenos who speaks English, and I imagine Free was thinking along the same lines.

I don't think there's any comparison to a Nevada Brothel. I've paid up to $350 for TLN in Panama, twice, both times at GT, and from what I've read it would have run more than 10X that much in Nevada. Both of the women were 10's in my book.

As to prices, I think Golden Time is an anomaly. I don't live in Panama, but in the 5 years I've been going there the price of hotels and food has gone up a lot. And in USD terms, prices have increased even more in Colombia, where a lot of these hookers come from. The dollar is weak and the rest of the world is getting richer while we're staying the same. In any event, I don't think it's people like BaitandSwitch, me, and other posters that are running up prices. We're a pretty educated group, thanks to ISG we know the going rate. IF there is anyone to blame, it would be the foreign businessmen, the wealthy locals, and the tourists who don't have a clue.

[QUOTE=Icyhoteric]Hey guys. Thanks for all the help.

And I had no idea about the gay porn star name at all. Which leads me to wonder how you knew about it? ! Haha. All in good fun.

So I hear a smoking ban went into place in Panama today, any word on the ground if it is being enforeced?

I'm givning Torres de alba a shot.[/QUOTE]

the ban is ridiculous!!! is actually good that now they are defining that in the law, but the law itself was created taking only the non smokers opinions in consideration, because by law, there's not even a smokers designate area.

Whats even worse, apparently, the law is written in a way that if you are walking down the street and you are smoking and someone that doesnt smokes gets annoyed, they can call the police on you!!

I guess we are going to agree to disagree. No street girl in the world (Except in developed countries) would get that kind of cheese ($200) for TLN from anyone. In a way, you are making my point: How are you going to compare a 10 from GT, arguably, the best massage parlor in the country with a street ho? No way you can compare the two. First, the GT girl has to answer to her bosses and would get fired for trying to pull the crap that happened to BaitandSwitch (Sorry about the bad luck). Because she is walking around Veneto, Habanos or la Bodeguita, they are still on the street. My point is quite simple: Providers talk. I've been there and trust me when I say that they are laughing and calling us foolish. If she is a 10+ and you've got to have her, I wouldn't offer more than $100. Doubling the price makes us look weak and easy to manipulate. A street ho in Panama charges $20 for a short time and $50 for TLN. That's the going rate when I was there last time in November. If they are hanging out who cares where, Veneto, Habanos or la Bodeguita, that does not mean that you pay as if she works at the establishment. She is from the street, she knows it and so should we. Paying the local's rate times 4 is just plain sad. If you don't know, ask the locals what they pay. Don't be scared to ask. You will see that I am not that far off.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I stayed at the Veneto this weekend. The hookers were out in force in the casino -- the place appears to have returned to its glory days, and I thought it was a little better than Habanos or La Bodeguita. There was absolutely no problem taking a woman to your room, in fact, the security guys on the casino level would push the button for you. The level of talent was up significantly in Oasis compared to the last time I was there. And prices in Elite are getting ridiculous -- they're up about 40-50% since last time I was there, about a year ago. Lady drinks are $18.90 a piece and you have to buy 10 for takeout. That's just the barfine, not counting what you have to pay the woman. They're charging $30 for the open bar now.

Voyager, I believe you are in a time warp. $200 for TLN is not unreasonable. I don't think most of us are going to get a "9" or a "10" for much less than that, unless there's some chemistry, or unless she has a long term agenda. You bring up Golden Time -- the charge there for TLN is $350, and if the woman gets half that's getting close to $200. Or we may be talking about two different things--yeah, if you pull from the bottom half of what's available, $200 is too much to pay. But BaitandSwitch was talking about an attractive woman with magnificent cenos who speaks English, and I imagine Free was thinking along the same lines.

I don't think there's any comparison to a Nevada Brothel. I've paid up to $350 for TLN in Panama, twice, both times at GT, and from what I've read it would have run more than 10X that much in Nevada. Both of the women were 10's in my book.

As to prices, I think Golden Time is an anomaly. I don't live in Panama, but in the 5 years I've been going there the price of hotels and food has gone up a lot. And in USD terms, prices have increased even more in Colombia, where a lot of these hookers come from. The dollar is weak and the rest of the world is getting richer while we're staying the same. In any event, I don't think it's people like BaitandSwitch, me, and other posters that are running up prices. We're a pretty educated group, thanks to ISG we know the going rate. IF there is anyone to blame, it would be the foreign businessmen, the wealthy locals, and the tourists who don't have a clue.[/QUOTE]

O.K., I'll admit I've spent TLN with women that I thought were around 7's for $70 to $100, and could have paid less. The $70 chica started as a $20 chica (for short time) and I gave her a performance bonus the next day. If a hooker is drop dead gorgeous though, $200 is a good price IMHO.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1]I guess we are going to agree to disagree..[/QUOTE]

Last week I landed Wednesday evening around 10:15 PM. One of the guys at Las Vegas hotel offered to pick me up since he was off, and he and his brother gave me a brief 'guided tour' from the airport to the hotel. When I worked this out with him over the phone the day before my travel, he quoted $25 and I was fine with that. He also offered to be available for anything else I needed, which is nice. If an employee of the hotel works with you 'on the side', it's unlikely they are going to scam you or put you in harm's way, so there's a comfort factor there. As this was my first trip to Panama, and arriving late at night and not wanting any hassle or wasted time, this suited me fine.
By midnight I was trolling the Veneto hotel, but I could barely saddle up to the bar - too many people, most of them guys who seemed to look at me as some type of competition (surely not any of you guys, tho). I observed probably 15 girls who clearly were unattended. My favorite of the lot, though, never reciprocated eye contact and when I casually said Bueno walking past her, she looked away from her circle of chica friends only long enough to give me a U.S.-type look that says, "do I know YOU?" And then she turned her attention back to her chica circle at the bar. I thought, WTF? But only momentarily. I strolled all around the casino and had some drinks at the bar, and a couple of girls tried coming onto me, but they were (in my opinion) 5's, maybe 6's at best, and I just wasn't too interested.
I took a walk along the street, both sides, just to walk, get some air and explore the scene. Stopped briefly at the Oasis massage place, but it was as uninviting and unappealing as other forum posters have reported. Just 3-4 girls, 5's at best, sitting on a couch and looking greatly disinterested. Two other guys came in behind me, drunk as hell, and gave them business - that was my graceful cue to escape.
A taxi driver who calls himself "Tony" - a black guy in his 50s? - asserted himself on me, first by asking for a buck so he could get something to eat, but after awhile of street-talking, I went back to Veneto, saw even fewer chicas than before, went back outside and I decided to chance it with Tony to take me to a place he knew about, 3 minutes away, where I'd find what I was looking for.
It really was 3 minutes away, and I can't tell you the name of the place because it had no name, as far as I know, and the location was really obscure - back through some small side-streets and inside a courtyard of sorts. You'd have to just "know" where it was to ever find it. There was a motel (of sorts) there, but it had a local name I just can't remember, and it looked like a place no tourist would know about, much less stay there.
Tony said he'd stay and wait for me. The 4-5 girls were 6s, but to me there was one 7 - the only issue was that she didn't make much eye contact or smile much. All except one was from Colombia. I chose the 7. $80 for one hour, servicio completo. She smoked a cigarette while I showered, claiming that she had already showered earlier. She gave me a half-decent "massage" for about 10 minutes (? - time flies) and then turned me over to get started. She did a below-average CBJ (I tried to object to the C, but she wasn't at all negotiable), followed by a couple of different positions, all with a very detached display. Said her name was Adriana, and that she was 33. She had the most petite body of any girl I saw on my entire 3-day trip - around 5'2", 90-95 pounds, small natural chest with very full nipples. Her cell phone rang several times during the session, and one time she answered but didn't stay on long. Ridiculous! Later on, there were several more ring-tones on her cell, but I figured out it was the mama-san letting her know that time was almost up, which of course the girl told me about. I never did finish - I just can't do the whole mechanical, business transaction, dumpy place, non-GFE thing, especially after a really long day and several drinks in me.
So I was walking out, and Tony said I should take a girl with me, and at first I was like, "are you totally nuts?!" But one girl there kept beaming smiles and eye contact at me, so it persuaded me to linger. However, just then a very assertive girl grabbed me and pulled me into a "VIP" room, pulling out her tits and shoving her nipples against my mouth, trying to get me to engage. She said stuff and did stuff very overtly to get me to take her back to my hotel with me, but she just didn't turn me on at all! I didn't like her pushiness and she had this angry-looking face. Just a complete turn-off. Finally I got rid of her and went back to the girl with the sunshine eyes and smile, and we had some broken English conversation.
Eventually I agreed to take "Maria" - a Dominican - to the hotel for $90 for one hour. Tony would again be our driver. He coerced me to give a few bucks to the armed security guard who lurked outside the place, and to the room attendant who cleans around the place. I gave $20 to Tony (he seemed unhappy with that) when we got to Las Vegas suites, but I thought that was fair.
We got past the evil-eye stare of the Las Vegas night attendant (an older woman who wasn't very guest services oriented) and went straight to the room, where the girl showered, then me, then we got down to some business.
She said she was 23, probably 5'3" and 125-130 pounds. Not really overweight, but full-figured and really nice, big natural rack. I'm more of a small, tight rear-end kind of guy, but large tits are mentally and physically nice to work with. She did BBBJ, but only after negotiating an extra $20 propina (tip), and by that point in the evening (3 AM?) I wasn't in the mood to argue. However, I went down on her first, and she really went wild - this either was oscar-winning acting on her part or she really liked it. I would have liked for her to "oral me" to completion, also, but unfortunately her oral talent wasn't all that good, so on went the cover and then we did multiple positions. Finally, being covered, and being flat wore out, I couldn't finish, so she laid next to me with those nice huge tits laying against my chest, and she initiated DFK while stroking mr. marbles while I took care of mr. shaft. After a few minutes of that, my water pistol shot a stream 2-3 feet and she seemed happy to see that. But she was equally quick to start cleaning up, getting dressed and leave. And that was fine with me, as I had to work the next day and severely needed some sleep.
Total damage, including drinks at Veneto (which are NOT cheap, by the way ... U.S. prices, basically): $255
Transport from the airport to the hotel: $25
3 mixed drinks at Veneto: $20
Tony the taxi driver: $20
Below-average Girl #1 at the unknown massage place: $80
Decent Girl #2 "take-out" from the unknown massage place: $90 + $20 tip

Las Vegas Suites is an "ok" hotel ... I don't mind paying $70/night, but I was somehow expecting more than a 1-star hotel experience (by US standards). Even on the 8th floor, I could clearly hear the street noise (esp. all the car horns), which is a near-constant in that area. The place is quite old - the only saving grace is that my air cond. and wireless internet worked fine. Other than that, I was very unimpressed with the room, bathroom and furnishings. Now, don't get me wrong - I'm not complaining, but just reporting on my experience for informational purposes.
I had breakfast at McDonalds down the street (same prices as U.S.), purchased some overpriced stuff at the pharmacy (Green's?) near the Veneto, then spent most of the day working in my hotel room over the internet, supporting my clients back in the U.S.
Around 7 PM I finally left the hotel, turning left and walking away from Veneto, I stopped in at Istmo Brew Pub.
SIDE-NOTE: I did not find this out until later, but apparently Thursday was the first day of a legal ban on public area smoking. I don't smoke, so that's a nice change of pace for a non-U.S. experience.
Istmo Brew Pub is apparently the "La Terrazza" bar that others have reported on in this forum. I did not know this until Friday night when I asked an old cab driver to take me to La Terrazza and he pulled up in front of Istmo Brew Pub! LOL.
So I have two glasses of red wine (again, US prices - around $5 each) and a 3-part appetizer. When the appetizer comes out, it's more food than I want to eat, so I offered most of it to a table of 3 girls, and they graciously accepted (in the U.S. you would get, at best, a cordial "no thanks").
Went back to the bar. The table of three girls didn't "appear" to be working girls, but I finally aimed at finding out. One of them was an 8, but she was an air-head and sported a U.S. female attitude, although she at least was cordial to me because her two friends seemed to like me a lot. All 3 were from Colombia, and the 'ring leader' spoke a good-enough broken English.
Eventually they asked me to join them, and we all finally left when their ride showed up - a guy "friend" of theirs, and he seemed pretty cool. So we're in his car going "partying" (they said not far from there), but the 8 rolled up some weed and everyone (except me and one other girl) started smoking it. Meanwhile, the guy was driving who-knows-where, for about 20 minutes, but I was a little relieved that we wound up back at Veneto.
Tony again saw me and came up asking for a buck! LOL. But since I was with 4 other people, there wasn't much barging in he could do.
We all went into Veneto, except for the 8, who went I-don't-know-and-don't-care where. So we get a table, and order some drinks and food and have some limited conversation. To be honest, I wasn't into either of the two girls who were in my present company, so I tried (discreetly) to check out the rest of the place.
The girl who the night before had given me the "do I know YOU??" look was there again, so I went up to her again at one point and said something en espanol, and it was the same type of reaction. Sh** ! I was thinking, WHY are you here if you aren't accepting gentlemanly advances?! There were other girls in the place, but I just didn't see any that I frankly wanted to deal with!
Finally around 2:30 AM, the "8" shows up, and about 15 minutes later, I told everyone I had to get back to the hotel to get some sleep. The 8 motions to speak with me for a minute, and she wants $100 to "go with me" for an hour. My gut feeling said, it ain't gonna be worth it. It will be non-GFE and I'll regret spending the money. Besides, I had already spent about $80 total on food and beverages for the evening, so in my mind it would have been like spending $180 for one hour with a girl ... $80 for the "hunt" and $100 for the catch. Nawwww. No thanks.
And that was it. I went back to the hotel to sleep.

Gee Vee, that doesn't sound good. I came really close to trying to contacting you and BaitandSwitch, but only had late nights and small parts of the days free so figured we'd have a problem hooking up.

Anyway I was in the Veneto Casino Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights and thought the pickings were good. I left with a bonafide 10 on Friday and Saturday who gave great service, and an 8 on Thursday who was a great combination GFE/PSE. I think you were underestimating the number of available chicas. The chicas at the slot machines and the tables near the bar and the women talking to men at the bar -- they're all hookers. The only one I saw in that area of the casino who wasn't a hooker was the Corona beer girl. I know because she told me so. If you look at a woman and smile and she smiles back it means she's available. If she doesn't it probably means she's shy, or thinks the guy she's talking to is likely to take her. In that case I'd try chatting up one of her less-attractive friends or one of the guys in her group then try talking to her.

I went to Oasis one time, Friday morning when it opened at 11:00 AM. There were two women there, one that I'd rate 8.5 and the other 7. The service from the 8.5 was O.K., nothing to write home about (only CBJ), but she was fun to be around, and cost for full service was only $50. (This price is the lunch time special, only available from 11:00 AM to 2.00 PM, I think.) When I left there were several more women on the couches and none were dogs. This was a definite improvement over what I'd seen at Oasis in past years. I suspect you hit the place so late that the first team had already left, or maybe the morning shift is hotter right now.

Doing the post mortem, your biggest mistake so far was not going to Golden Time. It's really point and click there -- IMHO it's the best concentration of hotties in Panama, and you're not going to get ripped off. If looking for a freelancer, you probably would have been more comfortable in Habano's. I don't think you're as likely to find a 9 or a 10 there, but it's a lower-pressure environment with more obviously-unaccompanied women compared to Veneto or especially La Bodeguita.

Thanks for the reply and insights. Wish we could have met up. One pattern that truly exists but is awfully hard to quantify or objectively define is the very subjective rating scale that we forum members all use. Some years ago I tried to get Jackson to consider putting a "1-to-10" rating area up, so that everyone could 'sing from the same sheet music' in that regard. It's awfully hard to do under any circumstances because people's personal tastes are just so vastly different. But I think in general you could put about 10 pictures of 10s out there, and say, girls who look like this are 10s, and the same for 9s, etc. I think we've all read posts from guys who went crazy regarding a girl, then anxiously opened the photo, only to be disappointed in seeing someone we wouldn't have picked under any circumstance. And that's not to be critical, but to give you an example, I read all the posts about Bodeguita and G.T., and I wrote them down as MUST places to go. Then I looked at all the posted photos of girls from those places, and I threw the paper away.
A guy with VERY LITTLE time and limited funds has the nearly impossible task in a new place of figuring out what's what in terms of the kind of thing HE is looking for (which may not be what others are looking for). Add to that the 'right-time-right-place' luck-of-the-draw, and any given night the experiences may be good or not so good.
To me, if I'm going to go to the time, trouble, effort and expense of flying to another country, and spend a total of, let's say, $1000 to get maybe one or two good experiences, I am *much* better off making 5 visits to AMPs that are within some reasonable driving distance and that offer known quantities in terms of service, girl-friendliness and physical appeal.
In my humble opinion, Panama is much too Americanized for me, including the prices. When I submit my full 3rd day report, you'll really see what I mean.
Not sure where this leaves us - we probably just have different 'eyes' when it comes to girls. Thursday night is the only night we were both there, and still I stick to my estimate that there were about 10-15 girls at the bar, and yes, there were some girls at some slot machines, but the hottest girl I saw that night was an 8. A 10 to me is a girl that freakin' looks like Tera Patrick or Halle Berry on their best days. And don't get me wrong, I actually prefer a good, solid 7 or 8 who has a 8-10 attitude than a 9-10 girl who has a lousy 5 attitude.
The other dynamic that might be going on is that I greatly prefer Asian women, with Latinas (being dark skinned, dark haired & dark eyed) a close second. But the Asian girls tend to be overall much more petite than Latinas. Although I'm not great-looking, I'm also not bad looking, and I also pride myself on being a complete gentleman and very generous to the girls. I am in pretty good shape, too. Plus, I'm the paying customer here, so throw all that together and, Yes, no apologies here, my expectations might be high.
I'll post my third day report next. Although it was a complete dud, you'll see that I sure gave it a very earnest attempt.

So Thursday night was a bust in general, but I didn't spend too much money hanging out with new "friends" I had met at Istmo Brew Pub, plus I didn't blow any other wads. Bottom line, I still had some unused wads in all my pockets, and it was Friday night.

As BaitandSwitch mentioned, we were going to try hooking up, but it was close to midnight by the time we finally got connected by telephone. Nice talking to ya, man. He had a thing going on and I was still trying to figure out whether to keep hunting or call it a trip and go to bed. I had to wake up at 5 AM for a 7:30 AM flight.

Friday night started out with food and (again, overpriced) drinks at the Marriott's Executive Lounge. Most international lounges have a 'happy hour' with complimentary drinks, but in American lounges you have to pay, and thus, no surprise, same in Panama. I didn't find out until later that it was $9.50 for a glass of merlot, and $5.50 for the glass of chardonnay that I had. Rationalizing the event, at least the food was free and it basically was my dinner, not to mention I had access to free water, sodas and other snacks all throughout the day.

First I checked out the casino adjacent to the Marriott - zero. I mean zero.

A young bellman told me that Elite was a good place to go, only a flat $25 for open bar, and I think he mentioned there's a cover charge (can't remember), and Le Palace. I didn't really want to get [more] drunk so I set off in search of other bars and clubs he mentioned in the "area around TGI Fridays". I found Hooters - what a joke! Same as the US - the girls weren't that great, but worse, the entire place was filled with guys. BYE! Next was TGI Fridays - busy, but every table had the look of groups of people who knew each other, including the bar area. BYE! Wandered the streets looking for other bars/clubs that might provide something 'interesting' - but I saw nothing with potential. It was around 8:30 PM. I got back to my hotel and no message from BaitandSwitch, so I continued back out again. An old cab driver said he'd take me to La Terrazza (which turned out to be Istmo Brew Pub) and then he'd pick me up at 9:30 to take me to Le Palace (it opens at 9:30). I had some wine there but saw no girls. 9:15, I walked over to Veneto, just to scout around -- must have been too early (?). Same or similar impressions that I had from the previous two nights, so I said BYE to Veneto for the last time, also.
Cab driver picked me up at 9:35 at Istmo Brew Pub, took me to Le Palace.

Upon walking in, I knew something wasn't good - the place is DARK, and the black lights illuminate the girls' skimpy outfits, but other than that, you can't hardly see what they REALLY look like.

Having had much to drink earlier, I just got a bottled water and sat down. The "show" soon started, where the girls all line up and form a "train" of sorts, and the line wanders around the room so that all guys at all tables can get a look at all of them. I made eye contact with the most petite of them all. Oddly, it was her blond (colored) friend who came over to sit with me instead, and I kept asking where was the girl I wanted to meet. Finally she got up and went to go get her. I look around, just to make sure that all the other guys don't look like Enrique Iglesias and Antonio Banderas and George Clooney. Nope. In fact, I figured I was the best dressed and probably about the best looking guy in the whole place. Lots of beer bellies and pudgy executive type guys. So I thought, that can't be it!?

Finally the girl comes over and we start having some limited conversation. She's Colombian, 23 (but she looks 30 - but that didn't bother me) with small breasts and a great rear-end. Not the BEST I've ever seen (that distinction goes hands-down to a 30-year-old Vietnamese that I met in Singapore years ago). But really nice all the same.

She asks for a drink and I comply. It's a Red Bull and Cognac. Later I will find out it cost me $22, and my bottled water was $4.50. I really wanted to make a point about that, but I also didn't want to find myself in a freakin' Panamian jail, so I bit my tongue. But before that price shocker, there was an even bigger one: she said that she could "go your hotel with you" for 1 hour for $400. I laughed. EXPENSIVO! She said, No...No! No expensivo! She said it's $100 for the house and $300 for her. (remember, this is for an HOUR) She gets one of the other girls to come over, who is more fluent in English, and she starts to explain to me that Le Palace girls are premium, and that is the cost. I explained (nicely of course) that in Thailand I could get two girls, equally or hotter than any girl in Le Palace, for 90 minutes for $100, and that the girls would also co-perform (one of my favorite experiences). She explained this in Spanish to the girl who was consuming a $22 drink, and after she explained it, they looked at me, got up and went back to their places. I didn't even watch them leave. I sat there just long enough to text message a buddy of mine about the prices, finish my water, then leave. I know the poor waiter was waiting for me to leave some tip, but I took every bit of the change he brought back from my two 20's.

Sheesh!!!

Never one to give up, I wandered some more streets looking for something - anything. One lady wearing old clothes that appeared to be dirty, and she herself was probably around 40, asked me "masaje'?" and I politely told her No. I guess this is one of the girls you can get TLN for $50, eh? Not my cup'o tea.

Finally get back to the room thinking I'll just call it a day, but there's a couple of messages from BaitandSwitch. So I call his hotel and we chat for awhile. It was after midnight - I'm thinking "5 AM wake-up call". Sh**! But I just can't give up. I go back to the hotel casino - there's one older Colombiana who is playing slots and, despite looking to be in her late 30s or early 40s, looks damn good in her formal dress and implanted bustline. I chatted with her briefly - she never did say that she was looking for companionship, but I just assumed she would go for it. Price was $300 for an hour. I thought about it. But only for a moment. She looked high-class, and she was in a high-class place with high-rollers, but I just wasn't her guy. I have no idea - it might have been the most outstanding experience I've ever had. Who can know?! I went with my gut feeling, which said to pass. She didn't flinch (half-way thought MAYBE she would get negotiable if she realized I was walkin').

Sat at the bar and listened for 15 minutes to a live band, caught the eye of a Panamian girl that looked like a "regular" girl. She was seated with another lady, and they had put down 5 cervesas (always a good sign). The only problem was that the other girl was a 2 or a 3 -- very short, very overweight, very short hair ... just nothing I could really find attractive about her. Her friend, the one I was interested in, spoke almost no English, despite saying she was an accountant. When the band packed up at 1:30 AM, the girls told me they were going to the Majestic casino, and if I wanted to go with them, they had a car and that was fine. I said, Sure. We got to Majestic and I again trolled the place (on the way to the restroom, of course), and didn't see anything or anyone who was unattached or appealing. So I sat with these two girls at a table, and the music was SO loud you'd have to scream at the person sitting right next to you for them to hear you. Add the language barrier to that, and it's not even worth saying anything. I tried "talking up" the Panamanian girl, and she did give me her e-mail address, but that was the extent of it. Told them that I needed to get some sleep and I left to get a taxi back to the hotel. Crawled into bed at 3, didn't really sleep, got up at 5 and flew back home, worn out as hell and determined never to go back to Panama. It's all yours, guys! I wish you the best! Look for my next and probably all future posts in the Asia forum.

[QUOTE=MrVee]To me, if I'm going to go to the time, trouble, effort and expense of flying to another country, and spend a total of, let's say, $1000 to get maybe one or two good experiences, I am *much* better off making 5 visits to AMPs that are within some reasonable driving distance and that offer known quantities in terms of service, girl-friendliness and physical appeal.
In my humble opinion, Panama is much too Americanized for me, including the prices. .[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I got the same vibe down there last June. Nothing worse than a "HOE" with attitude. I will be down in early May for a wedding, and I'm sorry
I decided to go. I'll be out maybe 2 grand for this and know that I will be getting lousy service. I almost had a cardiac when a Columbiana in Veneto quoted me 400 bucks for a few hours! Hopefully the non-pro I'm trying to get with will act right this time and I wont need to monger too much.

Still working on my Spanish and aiming my missile towards DR!

Vee, You're right, beauty is a subjective thing, but I'm not so sure we're all that far apart on that issue. I've spent some time in Thailand and think on average Thai women are hotter than Latinas. However, I think there are more 9's and 10's among Latina hookers than Thai hookers. When a Colombian or a Brazilian or a Argentinian is hot, she's world-class hot.

Actually I'd give an 8.5 to the hottest woman I saw Thursday at the Veneto, the night we were both there, about the same as you. In my book the one I was with on Friday and Saturday nights, also pulled from the Veneto, was in the same league as Halle Berry -- a little better in the body but not as good in the face. And she probably fucks a lot better.

I haven't reviewed the GT and La Bodeguita photos posted here, but I guarantee you there are some very attractive women in those places. Not necessarily a lot. In La Bodeguita on Saturday night I only saw two, maybe three (no. 3 had a little baby fat) that I thought were really hot out of around 50 women. And to be honest the other time I went I didn't see any, although that was early on a weeknight. Look at what Fantasy picked up from La Bodeguita, $120 for TLN. I'd give her an 8.5 overall and a 10 if you put a sack over her head: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=551238#post551238[/url]
In Golden Time the percentage of lookers is much higher but they're still not all raving beauties. You probably saw some bad photos. In terms of conentrated beauty, I'd rate GT ahead of, say, the Poseidon model's lounge or anyplace in Makati, to provide examples I think we're both familiar with.

I agree completely with your thoughts about paying $1000 in travel expense to go have sex in a foreign country. I'd add that after you've done it three or four times in a few days, having sex starts to lose it's allure. It makes more sense to stay home and bang gringas if sex is your primary motivating factor. On the other hand, if there are some interesting touristy things to do or you're there on business, then sampling some of the local women is a great opportunity. Or I guess I should say some of the Colombian imports in the case of Panama.

Hi all!

Need opinions from anyone who has been to Panama.

Will be in San Jose at the end of May and haven't decided if I should stop over
in PTY or fly over back to the DR after the trip. Same cost for each. What I basically need to know if it's worthwhile to take a chance as a newbie to Panama to go for 2 or 3 days or should I go with the DR as I have been there several times. This is because of the time factor on the way back home.

Thanks!

Life is short, always try something new. There is a wealth of information available here by doing a search. You can have a good ole time in PTY with a short visit. All the major must see spots will make you smile. Golden Times. Club Miami. Club Bodequita. Etc.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=DrWoo]Hi all!

What I basically need to know if it's worthwhile to take a chance as a newbie to Panama to go for 2 or 3 days or should I go with the DR as I have been there several times.
Thanks![/QUOTE]

I would never recommend anyone come here (PTY) just for the mongering--especially if you're opposed to MPs. However, if you have an excuse for business or an interest in tourism, you should consider it.

Though poontang is widely available, the whole mongering "system" just is not as advanced as SJO or DDRR (see MrVee's reports below). Although, if light-skinned busty colombianas are your thing, you'll likely find more of them here than in those other two places.

If your Spanish is good and if you like cities Panama might be a good choice. Otherwise you're probably better off somewhere else. I don't know DR, but I've gotten better service and GFE from the the Colombian hotties in Panama versus San Jose. Also there are more good restaurants and hotels. I'm not in town very long so time is more important than money, so I tend to be a high end monger. But read other reports, by Meat Loaf, Permanent Damage and Gauntman for example -- they have fun with lower and no cost options. The key though is Spanish. Unlike San Jose, the PFP scene isn't easy to navigate and you're not as likely to get GFE if you don't speak the language.

[QUOTE=DrWoo]Hi all!

Need opinions from anyone who has been to Panama.

Will be in San Jose at the end of May and haven't decided if I should stop over
in PTY or fly over back to the DR after the trip. Same cost for each. What I basically need to know if it's worthwhile to take a chance as a newbie to Panama to go for 2 or 3 days or should I go with the DR as I have been there several times. This is because of the time factor on the way back home.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

I appreciate everyone's reports on PTY and my posts in general. Tiny, the link to Fantasy's experience and the photo was definitely great. I didn't go back to January '07 in my searches, though, because I figure after about 6 months of history, you cannot really depend too much on what you read or see. That may or may not be true, but in just in general. However, on that girl, I would be with anyone saying the girl in Fantasy's picture was a hottie - even more so for me because of the petite frame.
My main reason for going to Panama was because I got a $275 round-trip ticket and couldn't resist at that price. Plus, I've been reading about how #1 the country is (for the past couple of years) with regard to investing and/or retiring there, so I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. Then monger on the side.
I also agree with your excellent point about sequential bangs diminishing the effect. Night #1 if you pay $200 the experience can be really explosive. However, on nights 2, 3, 4 (etc.) with each day the sexo gets a little less satisfying than when you haven't had any in awhile.
To be fair, I should also add that in my visits to Costa Rica (twice), the San Jose scene yielded some very good Dominican girls and even one Panamanian girl, all who were (as I recall) 8's and 9's, and the going rate was around $200 TLN.
Later.

[QUOTE=DrWoo]Hi all!
Need opinions from anyone who has been to Panama.
Will be in San Jose at the end of May and haven't decided if I should stop over
in PTY or fly over back to the DR after the trip. Same cost for each. What I basically need to know if it's worthwhile to take a chance as a newbie to Panama to go for 2 or 3 days or should I go with the DR as I have been there several times. This is because of the time factor on the way back home.
Thanks![/QUOTE]


Have never been to DR_(YET!)_ but it seems like it's LATIN PI

Having been to Panama in 1979, 2007, and next week!..I'm an expert!

en serio..develop the native TUNG of your country of choice.
If Spanish fluency were a 10, I'm a 2 on the fluency scale and a 3 on the monger Spanish scale( talking with wh*res and drivers). One day I will be the MJ of linguistics. But even with that little knowledge, my time in Latin America,(PR,TJ,PTY,SAN DIEGO) has been enhanced times ten as opposed to not even knowing how to say one word.

So when you ask others "How will it be?", it all depends on you amigo!
Our sport is quite fun, but any tru monger knows , the fun is in the chase, not the act- READ MR. VEEs report. HE had no fun for 3 days. Your interaction from arrival to departure depends on your ability to communicate with all people you HAVE to deal with in between your getting that girl into bed.

To me it seems Panamanians like playing the, 'I know English but I dont want to let you know that' game. But the working girls are mostly from Colombia anyway. So negotiations will be in Spanish amigo. I like Asian girls and am always there. But they are too scrawny for me to invest language time.

But I "Love" big t*t sensual Latinas. It is my woman of choice. Point is in Rome ..do as Romans. Depend on yourself. Just get the location from this forum, dont take advice, your a MAN, let nature take its course.

BTW, I'm a bro, and women of color, Latin and Black American, like to put on a show. So when you lowball her with your price, it's disrespect. Especially in front of someone else. So you may get MAJOR drama when you offer less than what she asks for. ESP while someone esle is listening. So hone your negotiation skills to.

Panama is a good place to monger. Looking for GFE with hooker’s from Colombia might be the problem. These women came to the country for making money and most of the times they came on a budget or even with money they borrow from drug dealers so they need to make money quick. In the other side, the local girls from Panama are sometimes difficult to engage but most of them understand English. You need to go places, like TGI Friday’s to meet English spoken people.

I had work in Panama the last four years and the Panamanians told me that they dislike dirty people and people that believe that all Latinos are just for cleaning dishes. Avoid this behavior and you shouldn’t have problem with the locals.

The TLN fee for a Colombian hooker should be no more that $100.00, believe me, if one girl asks more, you should offer her $100.00 if she is super very pretty. No local or foreigner living here will pay more than that.

Last year on this same forum I got some serious fight about the high prices some gringos were paying to the hookers. The average price at that moment was $60.00 and for the best looking’s even $80.00. If some people continue to pay high prices the place will be ruined for sure.

Pty Sexy, What you fail to mention is that some of these Colombian hookers, in particular ones with kids who haven't been in Panama a long time, are looking for husbands or boyfriends. If you communicate well, you're nice, and they think you're going to spend some significant time with them, they can provide excellent GFE. One offered to spend a week with me for free, wash my clothes, and trim my nails, 45 minutes after she met me. She had an agenda of course -- it wasn't my good looks and massive penis.

[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]Looking for GFE with hooker’s from Colombia might be the problem. These women came to the country for making money and most of the times they came on a budget or even with money they borrow from drug dealers so they need to make money quick. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrVee]She asks for a drink and I comply. It's a Red Bull and Cognac. Later I will find out it cost me $22, and my bottled water was $4. 50. I really wanted to make a point about that, but I also didn't want to find myself in a freakin' Panamian jail, so I bit my tongue. But before that price shocker, there was an even bigger one: she said that she could "go your hotel with you" for 1 hour for $400. I laughed. EXPENSIVO! She said, No. No! No expensivo! She said it's $100 for the house and $300 for her. (remember, this is for an HOUR) She gets one of the other girls to come over, who is more fluent in English, and she starts to explain to me that Le Palace girls are premium, and that is the cost.

Hey MrVee I do agree that le palace can be a ***** especially those cab driver hustlers outside and I can imagine its not cool getting stuck with the cognac for $22 but having been to Le Palace I have done TLN nightly for three nights for the $300 to $400. Now I know the rule about overpaying but at the time the girls there were the best of the bunch, guys would cruise into golden time at 7pm and leave with three girls on their arm which left slim pickings. Prob it was a language disconnect but the girls at le palace are actually quite needy. After 12am they need to make a sale to get the dough and while they did hit me that BS about 1hr I countered with I'll do TLN for that price and they usually said yes. They were quite good and except for one who I didn't connect with in the first place they slept over late, did BBBJ and I had morning sex too.[/quore]The waiters were into the hustle with the drinks but I stuck to beers and asked the girl whether she wanted cerveza or coca cola I didn't get charged heavily for the drinks though they did try. Its sometimes easier to pay your tab after two beers or so instead of letting it run continuously so its a little harder for them to BS the bill. Next time you are there give the girls another try but go after 12am and ask for the Tln price, they keep trying to milk the foreigner by hoping to get the Tln price by hopeing you agree to a two hr quickie but push them to give you the all nighter price its doubtful they have the balls to quote you anything over $400 and if one does most of the girls there are hot so choose another plus its about competition, every woman there has her own goals as to how much money she wants or needs to make by the end of her contract or for the night or week and they can't possibly be making $300 A NIGHT every night. I see most of the local guys just come in and drink. You present them women with an opportunity. They may try to fleece you but they want and need the money so its doubtful that they would turn down the TLN offer of $300. I'm sorry you met the most stupid of the bunch of girls there cause some of them can be great.

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This bar is the best place in town the girls are ten dollars for sexo and there is 60 to 80 girls it is by the fish market one dollar a beer get over there and the best part the girls only receives 6 dollars for sexo there hungry.

Good luck

[QUOTE=Sato San]I have done TLN nightly for three nights for the $300 to $400... I countered with I'll do TLN for that price and they usually said yes. They were quite good and except for one who I didn't connect with in the first place they slept over late, did BBBJ and I had morning sex too.[QUOTE]

I hang out at Elite, not Le Palace, but had same experience the one time I paid retail, that is, the one time I paid the barfine instead of arranging something for after hours or next day. I had to kick her out of the room at about 3:00 PM the next day, after she worked me over 5 or 6 times.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12][QUOTE=Sato San]I have done TLN nightly for three nights for the $300 to $400... I countered with I'll do TLN for that price and they usually said yes. They were quite good and except for one who I didn't connect with in the first place they slept over late, did BBBJ and I had morning sex too.[QUOTE]I hang out at Elite, not Le Palace, but had same experience the one time I paid retail, that is, the one time I paid the barfine instead of arranging something for after hours or next day. I had to kick her out of the room at about 3:00 PM the next day, after she worked me over 5 or 6 times.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good value!

That happened to me also in PTY when a "working girl" came back to the Marbella apartment: She didn't want to leave and that was on day #3. Not bad for me considering I paid $60.

Like it or not, but I had girls at La Bodegita turn down $200 for TLN and that was with some hard negotiation.

I was here a year ago and they were all over me for that. Prices in PTY have inflated. There's way more mongers here than a year ago and there seems to be less Colombian girls. They used to hang out at Manolo's in force, but now I only see one or two there. I saw a girl get kicked out of Veneto, and the ratio at La Bodegita was overwhelmingly male.

PTY, in my opinion, is no longer a great place to monger. Perhaps it will improve, but at the moment, it is grossly inflated.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Considering that weekly salaries in PTY remain at or around $100 per week, since when have we been paying $200 for TLN? To a street ho no less? I don't like to criticize, but are you serious? But I may have been stuck in a time warp or something. I have never paid more than $80 for TLN ($100 if you include a nice tip). When did this start to happen? Do you know what you are doing to the price structure of the PFP in this country if this continues? My, oh my; gentlemen. Things are getting tougher all over the planet, and we are outbidding ourselves (Ourselves only, by the way) by 100% for no reason. We need to keep prices in line, gentlemen. No one in Panama makes that kind of money in one night (Or whatever you arrange). For that kind of money, why don't you go to a Las Vegas legal brothel? It is their going rate on slow nights anyway. Trust me, only true saps pay that kind of money for anyone in PTY. It is like going to the store, seeing something valued at $50 and paying $100 to $150 because we can afford it. I know we can afford to do it; there are many of us with that kind of dispossible income, and it is cool. Just why would we do it? Trust me, there is no one patting anyone in the back for that kind of waste, especially when half would more than suffice in obtaining the service. If they want to charge that much, screw them. Offer half and wait. If you have any kind of game and she is in to you, she will relent. My last TLN in PTY was with an Oasis girl for $60 plus room service and some breakfast (This was in November 2007). I am not trying to brag or anything, but $200, are you kidding me? No way, no how this should be happening. Things are tough all over, people are struggling to keep their heads above water and we are doing this? Trust me, we are doing it to ourselves. Why do you think that places like Golden Time have kept the same price structure for all these years? Trust me, the girls are making a good amount of money (Out of the $84, they get half, half goes to management). Yes, $42 per hour is a lot and this is the best in the country. Pay a fair price for service rendered; just don't let them get the best of us like that. At this rate, GT would be charging at least $200 per hour. Would they be staying in business if they were? I don't think so. Think about it. We are outbidding ourselves for no reason. Just my observations...[/QUOTE]

I think I wrote this before but im not sure so ill write it down again.

Cotton Club has changed its format. If Im not mistaken, there's no $25 cover anymore. The club itself has 2/3 floors with restaurants on the top floor. 3 types of food, mediterranean, asian and french. In the mediterranean you can smoke those arab pipes, arguiles(dont know the translation) and get arab type food. Asian, sushi and the like and delicatessens from the french.

Bottom floor is where the girls are located. Not sure about prices since I havent been able to find out before but I might tonight if anyone is in town drop me a PM.

There's a new club from what I hear in the Club Miami area, Crazy Horse, $3 cover charge. From what Ive hear is Capri like. Will need to do some recon on this

Gman out for the moment.

[QUOTE=BaitAndSwitch]PTY, in my opinion, is no longer a great place to monger. Perhaps it will improve, but at the moment, it is grossly inflated.[/QUOTE]

You are right, BaitAndSwitch, the country is inflated in everything from food to hookers perhaps the next time when you are ready to pay $200.00 for pussy remember your own words.

Picked up a colombiana at Manolo's. Negotiated $180 for TLN. She was cute. Ended up taking her to disco. Her and friend were all over me at disco. Took her back late and only got one pop. She wanted to leave 6:00am.

I offered her 120 for the one pop, but she started threatening me and calling people on her cell saying they would knife me if I didn't pay full 180.

I finally threw the 180 at her and told her to get the fuck out. She left pissed off. I probably should have thrown her out on her ass, but security is lax at El Parador, and I wasn't sure what her pimps might do.

Next day I did a quickie at Oasis with Lena. 30 +80 seemed high, but the service was good.

I will not be going back to Panama to monger. The rip off the gringo mentality has set in amongst the high end girls, and I'm not interested in going for the lower tier.

[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]You are right, BaitAndSwitch, the country is inflated in everything from food to hookers perhaps the next time when you are ready to pay $200.00 for pussy remember your own words.[/QUOTE]

and also remember that the blame is also to be placed on the actual persons that can and dont mind paying high prices for PFP

Prices in Panama City has always been high. Panama never had to develop their tourist sector. The American military has been there for what seemed forever and they paid what we consider high prices for everything. In 2000, I remember taxi drivers talking about the good old days when they would charge Americans $10 for a taxi ride that normally cost $1.50. I had great time in Panama and will always love Panama but the cost for entertainment is too high. The women are extremely beautiful, but $200 for TLN is a bit to much for me.

[QUOTE=GauntMan]and also remember that the blame is also to be placed on the actual persons that can and dont mind paying high prices for PFP[/QUOTE]Panama is filled with rich bankers and real estate investors.

200 will get you one pop with third rate pussy in my home town.

Panama is still a deal compared to the USA. You guys cannot stop the tide. Trump towers, more banks, more development. It all spells one thing: Quality pussy will continue to attract a premium in Panama.

One last thing to share that might be useful to people. I got a deal at gtahotels.com for hotel executive for 50 dollars a night for 3 nights. It's a nice hotel with 24 hour security. They allowed me to bring in chicas, but tried to charge me 22 dollars extra a night for them. I pointed out that I had a double room and they then removed the extra 22 dollar charge.

I would stay there next time. Having 24 hour security is a plus when you want to get rid of rip-off ***** Colombianas.

Allright, went on a recon mission saturday, first target Cotton Club.

Cover is nonexistant now, gratis. On Saturdays they have a promo 30% on drinks and food and also they 2x1 on girls!! Pay one get 2 out!!
Premises are top notch, particularly liked the Mediterranean room.
The club wasnt not rockin when I got there around 1130-12, saw only about 10 girls that Id rate from 1-10 varying from 7 to 8-81/2.

[quote]I offered her 120 for the one pop, but she started threatening me and calling people on her cell saying they would knife me if I didn't pay full 180. I wasn't sure what her pimps might do.[/quote]Pimping is not very prevelant in Panama as far as I know. She was probably bluffing. Also an independent out of Manolos is almost certainly here on a tourist visa, tell her to call her pimps and while she's doing that you are going to call your friend in immigration. You'll see her tune change quickly.

[QUOTE=PaulGore]This bar is the best place in town the girls are ten dollars for sexo and there is 60 to 80 girls it is by the fish market one dollar a beer get over there and the best part the girls only receives 6 dollars for sexo there hungry.

Good luck[/QUOTE]OK, after 30 years of mongering I feel compelled to answer this post because I don't want to see people hurt. I wrote this "Paul" about this place, but he never replied. I just got back from PTY yesterday and I questioned many locals about this place. All refused to take me there and said, "Dont go"...

Who the hell am I to question their judgement? And really, there has not been much buzz about this post because what does a six dolla ho look like anyway? So Paul Gore, stop steering people to sh*tholes. Hopefully your the first and last gringo there.

I got attacked by African Killa Bees while fishing in Gatun last week, so I dont mind some fun. I will admit my sense of adventure would force my hand to steer the car in Boca Toreno direction. You must be a local and a crack addict trying to attract the same.

If people from this site can afford to fly into the country for fun, they can afford top dolla tang. Me bein a dumb ass that has actually HAD 15 dolla girls in completley safe conditions in PI might try to have the same in Panama, but it does not work that way.

My resume includes 30 years of shi*hole sniffin, *****s in the street banging, runnin from the law ( and to the law) episodes! But when a local says FU , we aint goin! I listen. Sir, post as yours will force a "newbie" right into his undoing.

I'm a Black man - I can dress down and blend in. It all falls apart only when I open my mouth. This area could get me killed as South Central could too.
Tambien...void Capo Verde for your life.

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On a brighter note I have now fallen in love with Le Palace. Nothing but ten, 10,ten!! Did I say 10. Don't know what everyone is paying, but I quote from a local, the price is 120 for the bar and 60 for the girl. En serio!

Best keep secret in Panama I was in and out of there 20 to 30 times no problem this is where the locals go if gringos start going there the prices will go up on them. These are the same girls that are in campo Alegre seaman's in sxm. I posted earlier on how to handle yourself in there I is a blast I always enjoy local hang outs. Just got back for Bogota similar pricing.

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]OK, after 30 years of mongering I feel compelled to answer this post because I don't want to see people hurt. I wrote this "Paul" about this place, but he never replied. I just got back from PTY yesterday and I questioned many locals about this place. All refused to take me there and said, "Dont go"...

Who the hell am I to question their judgement? And really, there has not been much buzz about this post because what does a six dolla ho look like anyway? So Paul Gore, stop steering people to sh*tholes. Hopefully your the first and last gringo there.

I got attacked by African Killa Bees while fishing in Gatun last week, so I dont mind some fun. I will admit my sense of adventure would force my hand to steer the car in Boca Toreno direction. You must be a local and a crack addict trying to attract the same.

If people from this site can afford to fly into the country for fun, they can afford top dolla tang. Me bein a dumb ass that has actually HAD 15 dolla girls in completley safe conditions in PI might try to have the same in Panama, but it does not work that way.

My resume includes 30 years of shi*hole sniffin, *****s in the street banging, runnin from the law ( and to the law) episodes! But when a local says FU , we aint goin! I listen. Sir, post as yours will force a "newbie" right into his undoing.

I'm a Black man - I can dress down and blend in. It all falls apart only when I open my mouth. This area could get me killed as South Central could too.
Tambien...void Capo Verde for your life.

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On a brighter note I have now fallen in love with Le Palace. Nothing but ten, 10,ten!! Did I say 10. Don't know what everyone is paying, but I quote from a local, the price is 120 for the bar and 60 for the girl. En serio![/QUOTE][QUOTE=PaulGore]This bar is the best place in town the girls are ten dollars for sexo and there is 60 to 80 girls it is by the fish market one dollar a beer get over there and the best part the girls only receives 6 dollars for sexo there hungry.[/QUOTE]Can we clarify where this Boca Tora place is? It sounds like it's near La Mayor which is safe. If it's on a side street near La Mayor then Naked Gunz is correct about "F*ck You" from taxi drivers. Barrio Caliente (Dangerous Neighborhood.) Additionally, the rates quoted in PTY are bogus pricing for 15-minute sessions. Anyone buying p*ssy for 15-minutes needs some d*ck control.

Take the left off Balboa ave at the fish market with the fish market on your left and the Chinese gate on your right go straight past some stalls selling bird cages you will come to the water and have to turn right head to the end of the street on the right will be Boca Torena a wooden sing over the front door about 4 to 5 store fronts back from the Conner. Some men make love in there boots and dream there between silk sheets oh ya oh ya.

I believe that he is speaking of "Bocatero" which is located next to La Mayor.

Daytime seems safe to me. Could not say what it is like at night.

Willie

[QUOTE=SL Willie]I believe that he is speaking of "Bocatero" which is located next to La Mayor.

Daytime seems safe to me. Could not say what it is like at night.

Willie[/QUOTE]Man, that place is safe 24 hours per day.

Fellas, La Mayor (the fish market) has four (4) *****houses next door to each other and all are safe! There is no need to fear this area via taxi. Walking in the neighborhood may be a different story although the area "Casco Viejo" is experiencing regentrification!

Read the "Reports of Distinction" for more regarding this area, the fish market. Totally safe!

Story: My USA friend and I went to La Mayor one night and he got drunk drinking two (2) bottles of Abuelo with me. Never having witnessed this guy get drunk before we decided to leave. He was talking crazy in front of La Mayor with the local populace. I warned him that if you talk yourself into an ass whooping I will not aide your demise. Out of nowhere he sucker-punched me. Acting on pure reflex I returned a right cross connecting with his chin. Maybe he was drunk or maybe I'm super strong, but this asshole fell onto a neighboring car, rolled off of the car and onto the ground banging the back of his head onto the street where he layed out! (Granted, I did box for sport and study Hapkido, but I'm no fighter. I'm a lover! ) All of the locals for whom he was aggrevating looked upon me as if I were the vilian. Local police dressed in green told me to grab some bench. Local vagrants aided "my friend" onto his feet. Panama City Patrulla (police patrol) arrived upon the scene within two (2) minutes. The officer in the green uniform placed me in cuffs. The patrulla obtained my USA identification. The patrulla obtained the USA identification of "my friend. " The patrulla determined that since we were both USA citizens residing in Marbella it was not worth pursuing. The patrulla instructed us to go home for the evening since it was 4 a. M. "My friend" and boarded an awaiting taxi with the second bottle of Abuelo in hand. We arrived in Marbella minutes later with both of us going to our neighboring apartments. The following morning was re-visited the events of the night before where "my friend" confessed he was drunk and had zero (0%) recollection of the violence he initiated. (This characteristic was later confirmed by life-long friends of his whom I had befriended.) After experiencing such volatility I never drank with him again nor will I.

Moral of the story: La Mayor (the fish market) is safe with lots of police protection, quick responses, and a local populace that aides the distressed. If you venture into the neighborhood, which I do not recommend, it will be a different story. I've walked that neighborhood many a night and do not recommend you doing the same. It's called "SANTANA" for a reason.

Closed-captioned cameras are located in front of all of the bars located next door to La Mayor. Panama City police are permanently stationed within the bars or in front. A new Panama City police station is located in Casco Viejo within four (4) minutes walking from La Mayor (the fish market.)

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[QUOTE=Meat Loaf] Man, that place is safe 24 hours per day.[/QUOTE]

DAMN! Great F*ckin story! OK I'll GO..I'll GO!

Well, this past weekend had nothing to do on saturday and was kind bored of the same places, Capri, etc.
So I took a dive into the downtown area for La Mayor for a recon mission. Cover was $3, which is worth for a drink "during daytime". Place was crowded with ppl from the workers class. A girl was dancing on stage, nothing spectacular, most of the girls that I saw over there were not interesting, IMHO none was higher than a 6 on a 1-10 scale.

Discouraged by the sights of La Mayor declined walking to the other next door places.

Like it was mentioned before, I was surprised to see that many policemen around, area was well lit and populated, but agaian in my opinion nothing worth mentioning

[QUOTE=GauntMan]Well, this past weekend had nothing to do on saturday and was kind bored of the same places, Capri, etc.

So I took a dive into the downtown area for La Mayor for a recon mission. Cover was $3, which is worth for a drink "during daytime". Place was crowded with ppl from the workers class. A girl was dancing on stage, nothing spectacular, most of the girls that I saw over there were not interesting, IMHO none was higher than a 6 on a 1-10 scale.

Discouraged by the sights of La Mayor declined walking to the other next door places.

Like it was mentioned before, I was surprised to see that many policemen around, area was well lit and populated, but agaian in my opinion nothing worth mentioning[/QUOTE]At night, past 1900 hours, they have a stage show performed by this sexy Colombian sl*t who uses dildoes, double penetration, hot wax upon nipples, and invites members of the crowd on to the stage for 69. Great show! She's available for a f*ck as well after the show.

Opinions vary on the looks, but all Colombian hookers look the same and PTY is over-crowded with Colombiana so...

$3 cover always and always includes a free Budweiser beer.

Free Here,

Only reason I go to La Mayor is for the cheap hits, $10. The quality is rarely above a 6 or so. I just go for a quick, cheap, grimy fuck, then head home to crash (considering Im there anywhere from 2am-5am because other places didnt work out).

This weekend I think I will hit acropolis, from what I remember a lot of dominicans there.

Free

Been travelling to Panama for about 6 years and getting very tired of the Panamanian and Colombian cuisine. Looking for some Asian places or Indian places to spice things up a bit. Do any of you fine fellows have a recommendation?

/ba

I stayed at Hotel Las Vegas $60.50 day.
Rooms are ok,but look nicer online as does everything else!
Great location, Casino Veneto is a block away.

PHONES/internet
I bought a $10 phone card at net cafe across street and got 4 hours of calls to US.

TAXIS
No meters--ask how much $ before you get in. You can go almost anywhere for $1-$3. I got a $2 cab ride that must have used $3 in gas. These rates will soon go up.

FOOD
My 3 favorites so far:
SIETE MARES calle guatemala , seafood
MACHU PICHU calle eusebio morales, peruvian seafood
POMODORO in Hotel Las Vegas , pasta
All are within 1-3 blocks of Casino Veneto

POKER
Casino Veneto-holdem starts around 6pm nightly
buy in $200 minimum,blinds $5and$5,english and spanish spoken
All three local asian players appear to be playing on same bankroll.
Also two brothers about 70 years old appear to be playing in collusion.
Even with all this, the game is still beatable.

CHICAS
OASIS MASAJE: $50 11am-130pm, $100 all other times.

GOLDEN TIME: opens 7pm nightly,$84 hour or $94 if you show up in taxi
This place has best lookers of all the different locations in the city that Ive been to so far.

ROYAL ELEGANCE CENTER:avenida las porras,$70
Neither royal,nor elegant,just barely okay

[QUOTE=Bandito Azul]Been travelling to Panama for about 6 years and getting very tired of the Panamanian and Colombian cuisine. Looking for some Asian places or Indian places to spice things up a bit. Do any of you fine fellows have a recommendation?

/ba[/QUOTE]

try benihana in multiplaza or sushi ito(traditional japanese recipe), sushi express(makes cooked recipes).
Near El Panama, try Ginza, down the street where manolo's is. Also down further you can try Matsuei(open sushi some days). There's an indian cuisine restaurant near Los Arcos, but I dont recall the name

[QUOTE=Meat Loaf]At night, past 1900 hours, they have a stage show performed by this sexy Colombian sl*t who uses dildoes, double penetration, hot wax upon nipples, and invites members of the crowd on to the stage for 69. Great show! She's available for a f*ck as well after the show.

Opinions vary on the looks, but all Colombian hookers look the same and PTY is over-crowded with Colombiana so...

$3 cover always and always includes a free Budweiser beer.[/QUOTE]

a sex show?!!! at what time is performed? that night i went around 930pm and didnt see any action like that on stage

I need some hotel information.
I had visited Panama City about 2 years ago.
I stayed at the Marriot. It was a nice hotel and GF for the two times I brought someone back to my room. But the hotel is expensive.
I am looking for another hotel, in the same area, but a little less expensive, but also GF.
Is there anything else in the area that fills this bill?
What about the Veneto or the Radison Deapolis?
I like the Marriot for the cigar bar across the street and a little club that was a short cab ride from the Marriot(i do not remember the name).

Let me know if you have any suggestions.

I was in Habanos last night, and wanted to share my experience with everyone. I met 2 girls. They stated there names were Mary & Julie. They are Panamaian. They claimed to be sisters. I am not really sure about that, but could be true. Both had braces on their teeth, and looked alike. Same tan skin & curly hair. Julie was taller and did the talking. She said she wanted to get fucked in the ass. And that her and her sister would do a lesbo show for me. They each wanted $100 for an hour and a half. I said no problem lets go. Once back at my apartment they were useless. All they wanted was the money, and no lesbo show, and that's right guys no ass. I had a few drinks in me. So I had them each take a turn blowing me, covered. Then Julie spit on the floor. I corrected her, but by then I had enough. I fucked Julie with a condom and had them get dressed and get out. So I recommend to stay away from these chicas. And find a better chica. Have fun Guys

L Train

The report given by L Train is a good one. We should all report about the minus, just as well as the plus-side experiences.

This will benifit us all, as most of us usually are lacking time on a trip. And we dont want to waste a night on this kind of action.

Any report that helps avoiding bad providers and bad location is just as welcome as the plus reports, imho.

Best regards / Ken Apples

Veneto would be your best choice based on what you say you're looking for.

[QUOTE=TravelWind]I need some hotel information.
I had visited Panama City about 2 years ago.
I stayed at the Marriot. It was a nice hotel and GF for the two times I brought someone back to my room. But the hotel is expensive.
I am looking for another hotel, in the same area, but a little less expensive, but also GF.
Is there anything else in the area that fills this bill?
What about the Veneto or the Radison Deapolis?
I like the Marriot for the cigar bar across the street and a little club that was a short cab ride from the Marriot(i do not remember the name).

Let me know if you have any suggestions.[/QUOTE]

In Panama city right now and while I leave very soon not much has changed. I've been to Golden time and could not believe about a third of the women are the same from Feb. While not much has been reported from the usual places in the forum recently Golden time was very busy by 2am there would be 3 girls left also even by 10. 30pm the best would have been taken for the night. My advice is Golden time is the best value for money but go early like opening time early to get the best selection because they ALWAYS get taken out. I know cause even though my stay is over I've only been to Golden time late and so the pickings for me were a bit slim.

I had the best time ever at Elite. I find the girls there the most friendly and the easiest to get along with once you arent stumbling around like some of the guys I saw there. There I saw the best looking girl for the entire trip. A vision at 6ft plus, slim but not skinny with everything just right Tall girls don't usually have much boobs but she did and her legs were the best not too thick and not at all skinny. I saw her dancing when I walked in and waited for her to come off then after the usual faltering conversation in spanglish I took her to one of the curtained rooms at the side for a lap dance but really to check out her body close up and her attitude. She was so hot her name was Alissa. I hung around wiht her a bit longer trying to negociate BBBJ even though I knew I was taking her back any way cause she was really a honey. Back in the hotel we got naked danced, then had incredible sex and yes the BBBJ did happen even though she was hesitant before, its really just about the vibe you give off and whether you have a connection at first. It was just the best for me and I was really happy cause elite costs a bit and simply good doesnt cut it at those prices so theres the risk that even though you have sex and get what you want its not satisfying and not worth the value. That was not the case. It was the best.

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The rest of my trip I had girls from Le Palace. There were many new girls at Le Palace and it was always busy. Very busy. Too busy for me sometimes cause a lot of the girls would be at tables with guys chatting and not available or else you can see them properly. The standard was quite good with a lot of gems but it seemed to me less than in Feb. The upshot to Le Palace being busy was again guys taking out girls. Nice ones the ones I want for the night. You could count them leaving. I realised it was not the place to hang about like it was before because there were so many potential customers girls arent going to stic around if they were not sure you were going to take them out. I learned to get in choose well quickly and get out and on the town. I had one repeat from the last time and it was lacklustre not bad but again at what it cost I should have had a new girl. I had two girls out one night and went out dancing and it was great however trying to get into the proper nightclubs with columbianas was a problem the bouncers gave them a hard time to get in and one night there were immigration people checking the clubs and actually had some girls next to the police jeep for not having papers.

The girls from Le Palace for whats it worth are sweet and willing to please once you arent neanderthal. They are beautiful and sexy for sure and I had great sex with most except for one who I had good sex with. If you want BBBJ you have to push it at the buying point and when you get a no which is most of the time, be cool, be nice, give them some time to warm up when you're all naked then push the BBBJ point again and you will get it. The price structure is two levels 200-300 for 3 hrs with 125 bar fine and 400-500 for TLN with 180 bar fine. Prices did go up but I believe it was economics the girls were in demand Lots of americans and mexicans taking girls away in bunches in leaner times like around carnival prices are more negociable. You can't beat the looks of the girls in this place its always worth taking a look cause you can't believe how lovely they are.

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I usually got to Le Palace about 10-10. 30 the late arrival is good cause I did well at 2am one night after I went from place to place trying to find IT by the way cotton club's a total waste, really it is in terms of women. At 2am its the usual bit of desperation for the girls cause its a couple hrs till morn and still no sale. This one girl I saw dancing and I asked the waiter to bring her over she was very sexy and I negiciated TLN then BBBJ. At which point she freaked out ect, I very nicely said gracias mi amor kissed her on the cheek then gave her the you're dismissed look and. She left. Only to come back five minutes later, she asked if I wanted to go then lets go I said no cause I like (mimic blowjob) and she said sure for you no problem and it was a great night it also helped we chatted in the room as much as my half spanish could manage and I B. S her a bit on shes so exotic. Whatever to get to a better than good level of sex.

Panama is great but theres this thing to be careful of. The scam is other than proper stores and big supermarkets if you try to pay with $100 bills the cashier may tell you its counterfeit after much checking then staple it with some paper to be sent to the authorities. Don't let them because nothing is wrong with your money. One girl tried it on me that when she used it they took it away at a store and could I replace it ect. Ect. I got my money fromthe bank so I know its not counterfeit just change your money as much as possible to avoid having the hundred dollar bills sometimes its hard cause no one wants to change them but your best bet is a REYS'S supermarket or the hotel. Panamas not bad lots of beautiful women at the clubs go check them out.

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[QUOTE=Sato San]The price structure is two levels 200-300 for 3 hrs with 125 bar fine and 400-500 for TLN with 180 bar fine. Prices did go up but I believe it was economics the girls were in demand Lots of americans and mexicans taking girls away in bunches in leaner times like around carnival prices are more negociable. You can't beat the looks of the girls in this place its always worth taking a look cause you can't believe how lovely they are.[/QUOTE]So 500-600 total for TLN? Alot more expensive in Panama than I thought! Even though the USD has taking a dump against the Brazilian Real, its still cheaper. Only up shot is that its cheaper to fly to PTY and I'll be there next month to see how it is. I'm put off by how I have to negotiate ala carte what you want upfront. BBBJ and greek is pretty standard w/ girls in Brasil from my experience.

I agree with you Hobbying it would be much cheaper in Brazil from what I heard which is why I really want to go there next.

I was in Panama about a year ago and went to La Bodeguita.
Is it still a good working girl bar?
Is there any other good working girl bar?

[QUOTE=Meat Loaf]
Closed-captioned cameras are located in front of all of the bars located next door to La Mayor. Panama City police are permanently stationed within the bars or in front. A new Panama City police station is located in Casco Viejo within four (4) minutes walking from La Mayor (the fish market.)

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Are all the police hearing impaired or is it just the dispatcher? Personally I don't understand why they need a chica "signing" in the bottom corner of the dispatcher's TV, unless shes the police chiefs daughter or something.
suerte,
LB

I am looking for a chica who either works at Club Miami or is working the clubs/bars. Real name is Claudia. From Cali. Sometimes goes by Tatianna. Latina with Blond hair 27 years old. Was in Panama 2005 left and is back as of Feb 2008. If you have seen her recently in 2008 post or message me.

Thanks, Likelatina

RIVER CLUB-$60 hour
ORIENTAL RELAX- $63 hour

These two places are right across the parking lot from each other.
I had good experiences in both, but preferred the Oriental Relax.
Chicas are not Asian, but the owner is.

Directions: from Casino/Hotel Veneto--walk to Via Espana, turn left, walk 3 blocks or so to Via Argentina. Blockbuster Video is on the corner of Via Espana and Via Argentina. Turn left and walk to Rodeo Restaurant. Walk into their back parking lot to the two story office building in left rear of parking lot.
Big sign in window says:RIVER
noon-2am,closed Sunday.

Directly across the parking lot in Galleria Alvear Building is Oriental Relax.
10am-midnight

Both these places were on a par with Oasis.

When you leave, walk back to Via Argentina and walk away from Via Espana one block. On the corner, cross the street and you will see a statue of Roberto Duran in the middle of the street. Continue walking one more block and you will arrive at a great Mexican restaurant. [url]www.elpatiomexicano.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Sato San]I agree with you Hobbying it would be much cheaper in Brazil from what I heard which is why I really want to go there next.[/QUOTE]

Brazil is cheaper and also offers far better quality women. There you could find black, Latin Asian and Caucasian women in all the major cities. I was recently in Sao Paulo and is a great place to be. Check [url]http://www.gpguia.net/[/url].

OK enough of Brasil, see my reviews on ISG in the Sao Paulo section lol.

Can anyone recommend some girls at Elite, Miami, Cotton, or Palace?

[QUOTE=Sato San]I usually got to Le Palace about 10-10. 30 the late arrival is good cause I did well at 2am one night after I went from place to place trying to find IT by the way cotton club's a total waste, really it is in terms of women. At 2am its the usual bit of desperation for the girls cause its a couple hrs till morn and still no sale. This one girl I saw dancing and I asked the waiter to bring her over she was very sexy and I negiciated TLN then BBBJ. At which point she freaked out ect, I very nicely said gracias mi amor kissed her on the cheek then gave her the you're dismissed look and. She left. Only to come back five minutes later, she asked if I wanted to go then lets go I said no cause I like (mimic blowjob) and she said sure for you no problem and it was a great night it also helped we chatted in the room as much as my half spanish could manage and I B. S her a bit on shes so exotic. Whatever to get to a better than good level of sex.

Panama is great but theres this thing to be careful of. The scam is other than proper stores and big supermarkets if you try to pay with $100 bills the cashier may tell you its counterfeit after much checking then staple it with some paper to be sent to the authorities. Don't let them because nothing is wrong with your money. One girl tried it on me that when she used it they took it away at a store and could I replace it ect. Ect. I got my money fromthe bank so I know its not counterfeit just change your money as much as possible to avoid having the hundred dollar bills sometimes its hard cause no one wants to change them but your best bet is a REYS'S supermarket or the hotel. Panamas not bad lots of beautiful women at the clubs go check them out.

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Anyways. It's GOOD to avoid walking arround with 100 dollar bills. 5, 10 or 20 bancnotes should do the trick. Change large notes into smaller ones before you go to Panama.

In many places (airport, hotels etc.) they also except euro bancnotes but these fucks will cheat you with the rates:.(So best to use dollars or pay with plastic.

Johan

River Club and Oriental Relax are my MP's of choice. I live in Panama and prefer to stay in El Congrejo because it is a convenient location has several nearby eating places and is secure. Golden Times is the best by far but it is inconvenient to get to from El Congrejo at night because of the difficulty to find a ride back when you are done plus you have to get rid of the taxista when you arrive by lying about your destination to avoid being charged an additional $10 by the MP.

River Club and Oriental Relax are just a short walk down Via Espania behind Blockbuster in a parking lot. Both are just fine but my personal preference is Oriental Relax. Maybe it's because at my age after I have a relaxing massage and copulate to take the edge off I want a no hassle return to my hotel to sleep.

On the other hand I start the evening at Monolo's on Via Venetto people watching and enjoying a low cost meal. There are freelancers there if you care to negotiate. Oasis is across the street from Manolo's but the problem here is at night there is a crowd of people outside trying to get you to go there. There are usually 2 or 3 dodgy black hookers standing outside aggressively trying to take the business away from Oasis. That is not my scene.

How complicated is it to get to Oriental Relax or River Club from the TGI Friday's in El Dorado?

I will be in PTY this week and always go to the Golden Time.

Thanks,

OT

[QUOTE=MrVee]Last week I landed Wednesday evening around 10: 15 PM. One of the guys at Las Vegas hotel offered to pick me up since he was off, and he and his brother gave me a brief 'guided tour' from the airport to the hotel. When I worked this out with him over the phone the day before my travel, he quoted $25 and I was fine with that. He also offered to be available for anything else I needed, which is nice. If an employee of the hotel works with you 'on the side', it's unlikely they are going to scam you or put you in harm's way, so there's a comfort factor there. As this was my first trip to Panama, and arriving late at night and not wanting any hassle or wasted time, this suited me fine.

By midnight I was trolling the Veneto hotel, but I could barely saddle up to the bar. Too many people, most of them guys who seemed to look at me as some type of competition (surely not any of you guys, tho). I observed probably 15 girls who clearly were unattended. My favorite of the lot, though, never reciprocated eye contact and when I casually said Bueno walking past her, she looked away from her circle of chica friends only long enough to give me a U. S..type look that says, "do I know YOU? " And then she turned her attention back to her chica circle at the bar. I thought, WTF? But only momentarily. I strolled all around the casino and had some drinks at the bar, and a couple of girls tried coming onto me, but they were (in my opinion) 5's, maybe 6's at best, and I just wasn't too interested.

I took a walk along the street, both sides, just to walk, get some air and explore the scene. Stopped briefly at the Oasis massage place, but it was as uninviting and unappealing as other forum posters have reported. Just 3-4 girls, 5's at best, sitting on a couch and looking greatly disinterested. Two other guys came in behind me, drunk as hell, and gave them business. That was my graceful cue to escape. A taxi driver who calls himself "Tony". A black guy in his 50s?. Asserted himself on me, first by asking for a buck so he could get something to eat, but after awhile of street-talking, I went back to Veneto, saw even fewer chicas than before, went back outside and I decided to chance it with Tony to take me to a place he knew about, 3 minutes away, where I'd find what I was looking for.

It really was 3 minutes away, and I can't tell you the name of the place because it had no name, as far as I know, and the location was really obscure. Back through some small side-streets and inside a courtyard of sorts. You'd have to just "know" where it was to ever find it. There was a motel (of sorts) there, but it had a local name I just can't remember, and it looked like a place no tourist would know about, much less stay there.

Tony said he'd stay and wait for me. The 4-5 girls were 6s, but to me there was one 7. The only issue was that she didn't make much eye contact or smile much. All except one was from Colombia. I chose the 7. $80 for one hour, servicio completo. She smoked a cigarette while I showered, claiming that she had already showered earlier. She gave me a half-decent "massage" for about 10 minutes (?. Time flies) and then turned me over to get started. She did a below-average CBJ (I tried to object to the C, but she wasn't at all negotiable), followed by a couple of different positions, all with a very detached display. Said her name was Adriana, and that she was 33. She had the most petite body of any girl I saw on my entire 3-day trip. Around 5'2", 90-95 pounds, small natural chest with very full nipples. Her cell phone rang several times during the session, and one time she answered but didn't stay on long. Ridiculous! Later on, there were several more ring-tones on her cell, but I figured out it was the mama-san letting her know that time was almost up, which of course the girl told me about. I never did finish. I just can't do the whole mechanical, business transaction, dumpy place, non-GFE thing, especially after a really long day and several drinks in me.

So I was walking out, and Tony said I should take a girl with me, and at first I was like, "are you totally nuts? ! " But one girl there kept beaming smiles and eye contact at me, so it persuaded me to linger. However, just then a very assertive girl grabbed me and pulled me into a "VIP" room, pulling out her tits and shoving her nipples against my mouth, trying to get me to engage. She said stuff and did stuff very overtly to get me to take her back to my hotel with me, but she just didn't turn me on at all! I didn't like her pushiness and she had this angry-looking face. Just a complete turn-off. Finally I got rid of her and went back to the girl with the sunshine eyes and smile, and we had some broken English conversation.

Eventually I agreed to take "Maria". A Dominican. To the hotel for $90 for one hour. Tony would again be our driver. He coerced me to give a few bucks to the armed security guard who lurked outside the place, and to the room attendant who cleans around the place. I gave $20 to Tony (he seemed unhappy with that) when we got to Las Vegas suites, but I thought that was fair.

We got past the evil-eye stare of the Las Vegas night attendant (an older woman who wasn't very guest services oriented) and went straight to the room, where the girl showered, then me, then we got down to some business.

She said she was 23, probably 5'3" and 125-130 pounds. Not really overweight, but full-figured and really nice, big natural rack. I'm more of a small, tight rear-end kind of guy, but large tits are mentally and physically nice to work with. She did BBBJ, but only after negotiating an extra $20 propina (tip), and by that point in the evening (3 AM? ) I wasn't in the mood to argue. However, I went down on her first, and she really went wild. This either was oscar-winning acting on her part or she really liked it. I would have liked for her to "oral me" to completion, also, but unfortunately her oral talent wasn't all that good, so on went the cover and then we did multiple positions. Finally, being covered, and being flat wore out, I couldn't finish, so she laid next to me with those nice huge tits laying against my chest, and she initiated DFK while stroking mr. Marbles while I took care of mr. Shaft. After a few minutes of that, my water pistol shot a stream 2-3 feet and she seemed happy to see that. But she was equally quick to start cleaning up, getting dressed and leave. And that was fine with me, as I had to work the next day and severely needed some sleep. Total damage, including drinks at Veneto (which are NOT cheap, by the way. U. S. Prices, basically): $255

Transport from the airport to the hotel: $25
3 mixed drinks at Veneto: $20
Tony the taxi driver: $20
Below-average Girl #1 at the unknown massage place: $80
Decent Girl #2 "take-out" from the unknown massage place: $90 + $20 tip[/QUOTE]

Yeah the place you are referring to is called the "River Club". I actually just left there a couple of weeks ago and it is funny I used the same second provider. I am a black dude that likes big booties and "Maria" caught my eye. Yes I rode with "Tony" a couple of times during my week and I found that place my last night. To me she was a pleasant surprise and probably more of an 8.5 or 9 but I like dark woman and wanted something other than a Colombian import. Paid the same $80 but I must remind everyone, Panama City is like Mexico City, New York City, and many other major cities. The service will cost more there than maybe going to Colon or David. Mexico City cities going rate seemed to be just as high, so is Acapulco. I like to travel to small towns, Cuernavaca MX for example, where I can get service for 8 dollars to 30 dollars at a couple of spots. I never spend over $100 total even in the US. Overall, I found Panama City to be a nice affordable experience. I was a 26 year old traveling alone and didn't run into any scams. I will be returning in September. Have fun.

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[QUOTE=Don Marcos]Yeah the place you are referring to is called the "River Club". Paid the same $80 but I must remind everyone,][/QUOTE]

Seems that club has two prices...60 and 80 bucks. Which is the correct price?
I paid 80, and some other dude a few posts back said he paid 60.

[QUOTE=MrVee] .
Eventually I agreed to take "Maria" - a Dominican - to the hotel for $90 for one hour. Tony would again be our driver. He coerced me to give a few bucks to the armed security guard who lurked outside the place, and to the room attendant who cleans around the place. I gave $20 to Tony (he seemed unhappy with that) when we got to Las Vegas suites, but I thought that was fair.
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That was BS. In that case you may as well tip security at ALL the places you go to while your there. That only made him look good.

$60 if you walk in on your own
$80 if you arrive by cab

Looks like I will try Le Mayor in Casco viejo this weekend. I'll be in PTY for 8 days, and I can't see paying 60 or 80 for a 6 or 7 massage girl when I've pulled 9's out of the veneto.

Also guys do your homework and talk to the girls, many times you can find Panamanian college students in the veneto or Fiest casino, trying to earn a little cash to pay tuition. If you talk a little and develop a feel, you can get a great girl for $60. The university is 2 or 3 blocks in back of via Argentina.

Still I will check out the 2 places people have mentioned in casco viejo by the old central market. I just want to slum it once.

I am sure it was 60, but I didn't have much left for a tip so it didn't matter to me it was my last night and she was one of the best I ever used. The funny thing is I walked by that place every day because my apartment was in the area but I didn't know it was there. In fact, I used the computer lab there a few times too. I consider the 20 dollars a finder's fee. Unless inflation has really affected them too lol. I just look at it as never having to pay that 20 again and now I can refer the place to my friends as I plan to return in Setember.

I wish I would of known about "River Club" before I wen down there. I did a search and still didn't find much about it. I guess with the location they are very discreet. I REALLY over paid for Oasis. I think it was all total about 110+ tip but I was spending other people's money so it took the sting out of the price. In fact, even though I had a descent time with my first Colombian I really got up thinking damn I should be charging you for this. She kept asking if I had a GF because the "Grandizo" was mesmerizing to her. Side Note "Wonder if I can make some money pleasuring some of these girls? I wouldn't charge them too much but they deal with "job sex everyday" and I can see some of them could use a good Massage Parlor to go too also. Well Panama City was great I wish I would of found this board before I went but I had some fun on my own. Before I leave I must say thanks to the creator because I found my new home for information. Can anyone tell me how I could suggest a thread because I am a wealth of knowledge about Cuernavaca, Mexico and surrounding areas.

La Mayor and three other clubs:

All taxi drivers know location. Tell them CASCO VIEJO--LA MAYOR.
There are four clubs in a row here, all same owner. The first is called La Mayor. Cover charge here of $1-3 depending on time of day. This gets you one beer. The other clubs have no cover. Beer is $1.75, chica drinks $2.50 of which the chica gets $1 cash on the spot. Rooms are upstairs in all the clubs. Prices are $10 for 15 minutes/$20 half hour.Sheets are changed daily whether they need to be or not.
Most girls are columbian,some dominicans,some locals.These prices increase at night in La Mayor to $15-$25, but stay the same in the other three.

I went here three different times over a two week period and always had a great time. Although I was the only gringo present, no one ever was rude and I never felt I was in any danger.

If you see a chica that you want to try, do not hesitate as some are snapped up quickly and seem to disappear forever.

I had one bad experience here with a chica that was not pleasant to be with.
I complained to manager and he laughed saying "chicas-what can you do?',but he did give me three tickets for free drinks.

Same company has another location at:
BOMBONERA in SAN MIGUELITO. same prices.
unfortunately I did not have time to go there.

Does anyone remember the massage operation in El Dorado just down from Niko's? It was on the bottom floor of a commercial center.

El Dorado is now down to 2 massage joints. The one in Caribbean Center that opens early but is fairly thin on quality and Golden Time.

Are there any others in the El Dorado area? I only have 1 more night in Panama.

Thanks,

OT

The one you are asking for is called Club Miami, and yes, it's still there.

I was there last week and hired a taxi for 10/hr to drive me around to all the clubs/mp's. Alot of places put a sticker on your shirt to signal you came by taxi so it means you pay more to the club or girl will ask more to offset taxi referral.

Elite, $30 all you can drink, exit fee for girl was 120ish (don't recall) girls wanted 200-250 for multi hours. I was there on a Sunday so there wasn't too many quality girls there but I pulled a girl out for 250 for TLN 6 hours. I will have to go back on a weekend when there are more girls.

Cotton, $20 gets you 2 drinks, exit fee depends on how many hours you want girl. I guess if girl makes it back to club or not but it was 190-290 plus girl which I didn't bother asking any cuz all the ones I wanted were with someone or at leaving but heard from waiter its 250 multi hours and 500 for TLN. Definitely the most expensive club but the nicest interior of any club I've seen, has multiple theme rooms. A lesbian room which two girls do a show for 30min for 200. A sushi bar which girl lays down on table with sushi all over her, 30min for 150. A shower room with girl 150, a bedroom which is 400 plus what girl wants. Multiple private dance rooms. Its huge so the place looks really empty which maybe 8 guys in there when I went. Girls there all had great bodies 9-10's, but faces from 7 to 9. Best to get # of girl in private dance room imo to avoid club fee. Taxi gets $50 so girl will ask you for more so best to walk there.

Le Palace, forgot fee but had to pay drinks and exit fee 120 to take girl out. This place is smallest club but the quality was better than Elite and Cotton imo. The girls have better looking faces and there were at least 30 when I went. Place was pretty packed with 20+ guys. Girls wanted 200-250 for 2 hours. I had a bad experience with the girl I took out, she wasn't into the moment when she started giving me HJ in bed she started watching TV, I lost total interest when that happened and wanted her leave though I didn't tell her to. I ask her what she wanted to do and then she said she had to get up early in morning to go to clinic and started getting dressed. I gave 60, said here for your clinic and taxi but she wanted the 250 and started arguing saying we agreed to 250 when in fact we agreed to 200. I said no way, no complete, you want to leave, and it was 200 and your here only 1 hr. I got on the phone and she didn't want to wait around and left. I would go back there and if I see her there I plan on throwing bunch of 5/10/20's to the dancer on stage. If you go there by taxi, they'll get 50 so walk there or else girl will ask for more.

Club Miami, had total lame girls there the night I went. 15 girls, 5 of them were asleep on the couch and 1/2 of them were chunky. Door fee is buying minimum of $10 of drinks. Rooms in back for 95/hr. I stopped in during the day since they open at 2pm. They wanted 350 for 5 hours. Ended up with a really cute girl and did her in the back room for 95. She was good but buzz kill when said in the room no sex for 1 hr straight and then ask for tip at the end. I wouldn't go back there.

Golden Times, had the great selection of girls. 20-25 7-10's. 95/hr or 350 TLN. Like others said go there when the open so you get to see all the girls working and TLN is same price no matter what time you take them out and they're suppose to stay till 4a. M. Took a girl out, total hottie, 5'3 with huge implants, def 9. 5. I wouldn't srepeat as she was not gfe, no kissing, mechanical but good thing she's hot. Ask the english speaking host which girls he would recommend. I would go back there to get girls for TLN. By far the better deal compare to clubs and selection is better imo.

River and Oriental Spa, stopped in and was disappointed at selection.

Carribean spa had a decent selection, 80/hr or 350 for TLN. I would go there as a back up.

Royal Elegance, really low end place but had 10+ girls ranging for 5-7. I wouldn't go back.

Crazy Horse, small club but didn't like any of the 8-10 girls there. Maybe I'll stop in again.

Veneto, had some cute chicas at the bar upstairs but I think freelancers are a bigger risk so I didn't bother just wanted to look though LOL. The spa next to it had low quality girls, the restaurant across the street had 3-5 girls when I looked. Bunch of street walkers by the casino also.

All the girls I met were Columbian and are there for a period of time before going back to Columbia for school etc. All very business like, not so much gfe. CBJ is really a deal breaker for me but it didn't seem like anyone does bbj so just delt with it. I offered a few girls propina for bbj but all said no. One girl told me every Tuesday all club girls have to go get a check up at a clinic and get their id card stamped or else they can't work. Maybe thats why they're ultra safe. Panama is a good city as a short trip since its a short flight but on longer vacations I would not go there. I'm debating on going back since bbj is not common and forget about greek. I recommend doing what I did and hire a taxi to take you to these spots just to have a look. I hit all these spots in 3 days LOL. I might have missed some good spots if anyone can fill me in on them.

HTH

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I am looking for some help regarding hotels in Panama City. Does anyone have any info regarding the Sheraton Four Points on Calle 53 Marbella? Is it close to the Veneto-Habanos area and chica friendly? I greatly appreciate any help that is provided.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Devoman]I am looking for some help regarding hotels in Panama City. Does anyone have any info regarding the Sheraton Four Points on Calle 53 Marbella? Is it close to the Veneto-Habanos area and chica friendly? I greatly appreciate any help that is provided.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

The Four Points is about a 10 min casual walk to Habanos, 15 min to La Bodeguita/Calle Uruguay. Should be a $1.50 taxi (or less) to either. A couple of places to eat on the street nearby (discounting Burger King) and a popular disco across the street, but otherwise sort of quiet. That is, you won't see SWs cruising around like you might staying between the Marriot and Venetto. I have no info on chica friendliness.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]The Four Points is about a 10 min casual walk to Habanos, 15 min to La Bodeguita/Calle Uruguay. Should be a $1.50 taxi (or less) to either. A couple of places to eat on the street nearby (discounting Burger King) and a popular disco across the street, but otherwise sort of quiet. That is, you won't see SWs cruising around like you might staying between the Marriot and Venetto. I have no info on chica friendliness.[/QUOTE]Four Points is chica friendly. I was there three weeks ago, I entered the lobby with a girl from Le Palace, and the security guard just looked away.

I even had to call the front desk for some condoms, wich they provided at US$ 5 each.

[QUOTE=Pty Seminole]The one you are asking for is called Club Miami, and yes, it's still there.[/QUOTE]OOPS! After a year it didn't look the same but since I will be back next week, I will check it out.

Thanks Seminole.

OT

Went on a Saturday at 12:30 PM and the place was closed, spoke a guy outside who said it opened at 2 PM so I walked the 5 minutes back up the street to the Mercado de Marisco (Fish market) and went upstairs for a great lunch a few beers.

Headed back about 2:20 PM opened the door and the place was packed, not a seat to be had. Paid my $3 admission that includes a really cold Budweiser, strolled around and it 9 to 1 guys to girls. Not a great ratio but as I soon learned most of those panamanian guy only look, they actually don't have the $15 or $30 needed to play.

I wandered toward the back where I saw some hot women, 6 to 8's, I was shocked, I didn't expect to see such hotties. As luck had it, a guy got up and I snatched a seat. The women stand around and wait to be approached, I saw a colombian with monster implants, give her a 7. Another colombian 5' 5'' 130 lbs, all natural, cute face, dark hair, a 7. 5, a definite possiblity. I also a tall Panamanian, 5' 7'' 135 llbs, really pretty face, a definite 8 and my first choice. Only problem was I only talked with her for a few seconds while she was at the bar buying a drink for the big guy who was sitting a table and had already arranged her time. She was taken, so I went to the all natural Colombian and it was like buying clothes at Walmart, no negotiation, $15 for 15 minutes or $30 for 30. I thought wow I take the $30.

So off we went upstairs, and now I saw more girls, all 6 to 8's coming and going from the room. Got in the room and quickly undressed, I didn't know it but the clock starts running once the girl reserves the room. She definitely had a great body and would rival some of the colombians at habanos, so why here for $15 or $30, I guess she makes in volume. A quick 2 minute massage, flip over and the CBJ begins, then she rubs some lube and slides me in. After a few minutes of her on top I begin to lose excitement, I need a little more GFE and this was too mechanical. So we flip over with me on top and its no better, now I've been around many a mongers destinations but this girl was very loose and I couldn't feel much so staying hard was impossible.

A few minutes later the phone rang and time was up, she aske dif I wasnted an extension and I declined. It was over.

Lessons learned, would I go back absolutely yes, but I'd pay $15 for 15 minutes and then extend if good. Plus get a number and try to hook up outside if rerally good. For $3 admission and a cold beer, the just $15 for minutes, it's a great risk reward. I will go back and try some other girls.

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I had a week in and around PTY, many girls in the casinos, mostly colombians hanging around the bar in te veneto, but mostly Panamanian girls sitting away from the bar playing the slots. Picked up 3 of these girls, $60 $60 and $50, the $50 girls was about 35 years old, but a GFE with a great body, a definite repeat.

I saw many more girls, just walk around the slot area and make eye contact, if their interested they wil maintain eyte contact but you may need to initiate a Hello, or hola in espanol. I do like the Panamanians, they seem to not rush, I got a nice massage from each girl, CBJ for the 2 20 year old, BBJ from the older girl. Many girls hanging around manols cafe, colombian, Panamanian, dominican. Some walking around between the casinos and bars, wouldn't necessarily call them SW only because they're making their circuit between Habanos, Manolos, Veneto, and La Bodequita.

Interesting note, I was in the Bella Vista super mercado, 2 blocks from the Montreal Hotel, and I made eye contact with some hot women, and spoke to 1 Panamanian and 2 colombianas that were working as nannies for some well to do Panamanians, they wanted to meet up after work but I'd already arranged to meet up with a buddy. I think they thought I lived in Panama and figured they could improve their lot. But hey from what I saw here, this place has definite opportunities.

I just can't spurge on the Colombians at habanos, when I can find nice girls in so many locations. Patience is key.

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[QUOTE=Paesano63]Went on a Saturday at 12:30 PM and the place was closed, spoke a guy outside who said it opened at 2 PM so I walked the 5 minutes back up the street to the Mercado de Marisco (Fish market) and went upstairs for a great lunch a few beers.

Headed back about 2:20 PM opened the door and the place was packed, not a seat to be had. Paid my $3 admission that includes a really cold Budweiser, strolled around and it 9 to 1 guys to girls. Not a great ratio but as I soon learned most of those panamanian guy only look, they actually don't have the $15 or $30 needed to play.

I wandered toward the back where I saw some hot women, 6 to 8's, I was shocked, I didn't expect to see such hotties. As luck had it, a guy got up and I snatched a seat. The women stand around and wait to be approached, I saw a colombian with monster implants, give her a 7. Another colombian 5' 5'' 130 lbs, all natural, cute face, dark hair, a 7. 5, a definite possiblity. I also a tall Panamanian, 5' 7'' 135 llbs, really pretty face, a definite 8 and my first choice. Only problem was I only talked with her for a few seconds while she was at the bar buying a drink for the big guy who was sitting a table and had already arranged her time. She was taken, so I went to the all natural Colombian and it was like buying clothes at Walmart, no negotiation, $15 for 15 minutes or $30 for 30. I thought wow I take the $30.

So off we went upstairs, and now I saw more girls, all 6 to 8's coming and going from the room. Got in the room and quickly undressed, I didn't know it but the clock starts running once the girl reserves the room. She definitely had a great body and would rival some of the colombians at habanos, so why here for $15 or $30, I guess she makes in volume. A quick 2 minute massage, flip over and the CBJ begins, then she rubs some lube and slides me in. After a few minutes of her on top I begin to lose excitement, I need a little more GFE and this was too mechanical. So we flip over with me on top and its no better, now I've been around many a mongers destinations but this girl was very loose and I couldn't feel much so staying hard was impossible.

A few minutes later the phone rang and time was up, she aske dif I wasnted an extension and I declined. It was over.

Lessons learned, would I go back absolutely yes, but I'd pay $15 for 15 minutes and then extend if good. Plus get a number and try to hook up outside if rerally good. For $3 admission and a cold beer, the just $15 for minutes, it's a great risk reward. I will go back and try some other girls.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I've taken the girls out of those places the first-time I meat them. They quote US $60, I tell them US $30 and my address in Paitilla. They get impressed. Most of those wh*res live in a group wh*re flop house and want a break from its ugly environment. If she doesn't want to leave, I find another 'cause there is no shortage of hookers. Nothing is better than a hooker that has pride in her hooker wares.

[B]The Whole 9[/B]

Hey guys. First of all I want to say I love this site.

Second of all. I'm not a newbie. I've be on the NY and NJ site posting reports for a while now. (under the same name).

Guys I need your help. I'm coming to Panama city on 7/27/08. This will be a great time for me to get alot of picture reports. So you know I got may camcorder and camera ready.

But I need to know where to go. I need to find cheap girls and moderatly cost girls. Please help.

I need prices like how much for hhr or hr.

Room rate in clubs.

Etc.

Please spend the love.

And I will return it when you come to NY. I set up underground stripclubs in NY, so I can be a great soruce for ya'll.

I was in Panama a few weeks ago and went to Habanos across from the Marriot Hotel.
I was talking to a few of the girls there and I was surprised to hear that they all has only been in Panama for a few weeks.
Is there a time limit on staying in Panama? How does that work?
So when I come back in September will I see any of the same ones?

The length of stay on a vacation to Panama is limited to 30 days, for Americans and colombians, in fact everyone without a either residency or some kind of work visa. I'm not an expert on what type of visa's are out there, but I do know the limit is 30 days, so typcially colombians fly back home and then return to Panama.

Gringos fly to Colombia or costa rica or the USA and then return to show they left the country.

[QUOTE=Southside 103]Hey guys. First of all I want to say I love this site.

Second of all. I'm not a newbie. I've be on the NY and NJ site posting reports for a while now. (under the same name).

Guys I need your help. I'm coming to Panama city on 7/27/08. This will be a great time for me to get alot of picture reports. So you know I got may camcorder and camera ready.

But I need to know where to go. I need to find cheap girls and moderatly cost girls. Please help.

I need prices like how much for hhr or hr.

Room rate in clubs.

Etc.

Please spend the love.

And I will return it when you come to NY. I set up underground stripclubs in NY, so I can be a great soruce for ya'll.[/QUOTE]Read my reviews on this page. 80-100hr at spas or clubs with rooms or 350-500 for all night plus exit fee.

[QUOTE=Paesano63]
A quick 2 minute massage, flip over and the CBJ begins, then she rubs some lube and slides me in. After a few minutes of her on top I begin to lose excitement, I need a little more GFE and this was too mechanical. So we flip over with me on top and its no better, now I've been around many a mongers destinations but this girl was very loose and I couldn't feel much so staying hard was impossible.

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Even Lex Steele would have trouble in situations like that. Thirty mins to perform on demand in a new place with a new chica. Don't forget the Vitamin V.

Thanks for the help re-connecting with the Miami Club.

In the last couple years they remodeled and moved next door.

It just started to pour rain as I arrived around 3 in the afternoon but the only 6 girls working were so fat I braved the downpour to leave!

I didn't bother returning in the evening since a regular at the Caribbean Center already got the job done.

OT

This place is across from the Do-It Home Improvement Center in El Dorado. They are open early in the day and the ladies are much better than Miami Club.

I had a fine experience with a Columbian lady with one of those great Columbian bubble butts. Her waist is so small and her butt is such a perfect bubble it is a treat.

She is very professional although a bit methodical.

Sorry I cannot remember her name.

The walk in price is $80 per hour.

Thanks,

OT

[QUOTE=Paesano63]mostly colombians hanging around the bar in te veneto[/QUOTE]Is the Veneto allowing Colombianas in again?

I heard they banned them last year from the bar and casino, no?

All tourist visas are valid for a 30 day period, you can easily get a 30 day extension for a total of 60 days, if you need one, I recommend you getting a lawyer to do the paper work, it should cost you around $100.

Visiting first time for a week. I've been checking out some hotels in the $70 range, Roma Plaza and Tower House. Anyone have any likes or dislikes about either, or know if they're girl friendly?

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]Is the Veneto allowing Colombianas in again?

I heard they banned them last year from the bar and casino, no? [/QUOTE]Plenty of Colombianas. In the bar area in the Veneto and a few around the slots and table games. Just make eye contact. Generally the colombianas are prettier than the Panamanains.

To my my surprise, a light skinned brunette with a nice chest was from Guatamela. So the girls can be from many places.

Supposedely the non Panamanian girls need to be escorted in a by a gentlemen. Anyhow the girls come and go. Maybe one hour there are 2 or 3 colombianas, then 30 minutes later there could be 20.

Going for a PTY holiday, want to ask a question.

Is the 1h deal (in MP like Oasis, River Club or GT, or in club like The Bodeguida or Habanos) for a single pop, so if you come in less time the session end, or is a true 1h with as many pop as you can?

Thanks for the advice, report will follow.

[QUOTE=On The Road]Going for a PTY holiday, want to ask a question.

Is the 1h deal (in MP like Oasis, River Club or GT, or in club like The Bodeguida or Habanos) for a single pop, so if you come in less time the session end, or is a true 1h with as many pop as you can?

Thanks for the advice, report will follow.[/QUOTE]La Bodeguita y Habanos are not wh*rehouses, but a bar and a cigar bar.

Don't let the girl know you shot a load!

[QUOTE=On The Road]Going for a PTY holiday, want to ask a question.

Is the 1h deal (in MP like Oasis, River Club or GT, or in club like The Bodeguida or Habanos) for a single pop, so if you come in less time the session end, or is a true 1h with as many pop as you can?

Thanks for the advice, report will follow.[/QUOTE]

I cannot speak for the MP's, but I have always found that the ladies at Habanos stay for the hour or longer no matter what.

When I was there last month my last night I met a sweat lady from Columbia who wanted to stay longer, but I had an early flight in the morning. I hated to have to send her away. I hope she is still there when I come back in September, but I am not sure when her vista started, unless she goes home after 30 days and then comes back. We will see.

TW

[QUOTE=TravelWind]I cannot speak for the MP's, but I have always found that the ladies at Habanos stay for the hour or longer no matter what.

When I was there last month my last night I met a sweat lady from Columbia who wanted to stay longer, but I had an early flight in the morning. I hated to have to send her away. I hope she is still there when I come back in September, but I am not sure when her vista started, unless she goes home after 30 days and then comes back. We will see.

TW[/QUOTE]Of course the girls at Habanos provide quality service since the Mariott hotel is across the street. Those girls know that you Gringos talk so she doesn't want to burn her bridges with a bad repuation.

Habanos is a cigar bar with about 10 or 15 Colombian hookers sitting on the cafe waiting to talk to a Gringo as they enter and exit the hotel. The Gringos see these sexy girls and go over to talk to the girls. They feel confortable.

[b]The Whole 9[/b]

Thanks a lot for the answers.
Yes I know that La Bodeguita y Habanos are club where you can pick up WGs.
I know that you negociate for an hour, but sometimes in the world I found that "1 hour" means "1 pop", "2 hours" "2 pops" and so on.

While I found a little bit hard to hide my first shot, I hope to find ladies as sweet as the ones TravelWind met.

So, anyone else could please answer my question about what's "one hour" in Oasis, River o GT?

Thanks again.

OTR, In Oasis and GT for me it's been one shot in house, but I haven't pressed the issue. With one exception at Oasis I haven't been rushed out the door though -- no problem spending the entire 45 minute at GT or hour at Oasis.

When paying $140 for 1-1/2 hour takeout from GT it's gone both ways, and the two times I paid $350 for all night at GT there were no restrictions, although both times the women left early.

You'll have several minutes to chat up the lady at GT to see what she'll do (or what she says she'll do) -- if she says no just ask to see the line up again and pick another woman. At Oasis I don't think it would be so easy -- she may ask for a tip.

And freelancers (Habano, La Bodeguita, Veneto) won't automatically stay for more than one pop. I've had that go both ways -- some were out the door in 30 minutes and I had to kick others out the door to get them to leave. But I think a higher percentage are looking for boyfriends/husbands/suckers who will send them money, so can't really argue with what others said below.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]OTR, In Oasis and GT for me it's been one shot in house, but I haven't pressed the issue. With one exception at Oasis I haven't been rushed out the door though -- no problem spending the entire 45 minute at GT or hour at Oasis.

When paying $140 for 1-1/2 hour takeout from GT it's gone both ways, and the two times I paid $350 for all night at GT there were no restrictions, although both times the women left early.

You'll have several minutes to chat up the lady at GT to see what she'll do (or what she says she'll do) -- if she says no just ask to see the line up again and pick another woman. At Oasis I don't think it would be so easy -- she may ask for a tip.

And freelancers (Habano, La Bodeguita, Veneto) won't automatically stay for more than one pop. I've had that go both ways -- some were out the door in 30 minutes and I had to kick others out the door to get them to leave. But I think a higher percentage are looking for boyfriends/husbands/suckers who will send them money, so can't really argue with what others said below.[/QUOTE]I've never went with freelancers since theres really no way to track down the girl if anything happens. Can't complain to anyone if they rip you off. Club girls at least have some sort of quality control. But I might have to see freelancers in Panama since they seem to be more gfe than club girls.

Just got into FLL from PTY. Got this witch immigration matron who gave me the 3rd degree. Guess anyone who travels outside the good ole USA more than once a year is suspect. Wanted to know if I worked or retired? What kind of work? blah, blah? blah.

Sent me over to area B where another prick asked me more blah blah questions about do I like what I do? If he only knew. Proceeded to search my bags thoroughly. Got scared when he didn't find what he was looking for thinking he may want to stick something inside of me just to be sure. If that was the next step I was going to suggest the matron who sent me over. I'm sure she would have enjoyed it. Wonder if telling her I was a virgin would have helped. Well maybe next time. Then the other officer yelled out while searching some other poor slob, "he's got the dope in here." Didn't stick around to find out.

Hell...I'm off to TJ next week. Probably doesn't count as being outside the country...damn. Guess I'll remain a virgin, for now.

Anyone with similar encounters please share.

Happy tales and tails guys...play safe. Pity we can't f*** them all.

[QUOTE=Hobbying]I've never went with freelancers since theres really no way to track down the girl if anything happens. Can't complain to anyone if they rip you off. Club girls at least have some sort of quality control. But I might have to see freelancers in Panama since they seem to be more gfe than club girls.[/QUOTE]

Although on average I believe the freelancers offer better GFE than the massage places, it's like rolling dice. I think the high end clubs you frequent also improve your chances, if you don't mind dropping big bucks -- the Elite and Le Palace girls don't have sex with as many customers. I don't have a lot of experience there though -- I've pulled two from Elite. One was spectacular GFE that stayed with me until late afternoon the next day. The second was so-so, but I think it was because she was sick and both of us were dead tired.

[QUOTE=Paesano63]Plenty of Colombianas. In the bar area in the Veneto and a few around the slots and table games. Just make eye contact. Generally the colombianas are prettier than the Panamanains.

To my my surprise, a light skinned brunette with a nice chest was from Guatamela. So the girls can be from many places.

Supposedely the non Panamanian girls need to be escorted in a by a gentlemen. Anyhow the girls come and go. Maybe one hour there are 2 or 3 colombianas, then 30 minutes later there could be 20.[/QUOTE]Good to hear, I read last year they were banning Colombian girls in Veneto, but nice to see they're back again :)

I'll be going in December, and will write a full report

Update on the Veneto, the girls aren't allowed on the main floor till like 1 am. They are allowed and do congregate in the slot room at the back of the casino- it used to be the non-smoking area. They'll be there from 9pm on.

I hit Midnight's on Via España at 3 am Saturday night. There were only a couple of dudes in there. There were maybe 10 women in there at that time, maybe half were lying down or asleep on booths and couches.

As this was my first time there, I was very, very impressed by the quality of the women. Half of the women were colombian, the other half panamanian, and light-skinned panameñas at that. All were 7+ from what I saw in the dark. All were slim and shapely, at least. Most were dressed in white lingerie. Again, I was very impressed. I expected it to be somewhat dive-like in the quality. One light-skinned panameña did a brief dance, getting naked in the process. She was beautiful with long dark hair, light skin, large breasts, and definitely well built.

Cover was $12 which got me two drinks. I bought a couple of drinks for a gal at a cost of $15 each(!). She was a light-skinned blonde from the interior, very friendly and accommodating. She told me they were all tired as sailors from the US and the Philipines had been there earlier in the evening. I elected to take her to one of the adjoined rooms, for a cost of $60 for 30 min. The rooms are accessed through a maze of hallways and stairs-up, then down, then back up again, then to the left, right, and 4 more turns. I swear it took us 10 min to get the room. The room was pretty nice, with a clean bathroom and a massage table, not much different than Golden Time but larger.

After some time, presumably the 30 min time allotted, the phone rang while we were still going at it. The chick thought this meant she had to urgently quit, but I coaxed her into another 30 sec to bust my nut. I think they started the clock without allowing for the 10 min walk to the room. But it all ended well and I was fairly pleased by the experience, and anticipate returning.

I'm currently in Panama City.

Visited the fish market area, close to Casco Viejo. The best place in the area seems to be the Bocatorena, packed with girls. Very cheap, 15 Bl for 15m, but very basic service (FS only with two condoms, no BJ, no touch at all).

Visited the Oasis at lunch time. Payed the 50 Bl offer, even if the man at the entrance tried the "it's 74 Bl" trick.
Very low choice , only 3 girls available. Had a panamian girl, good service but after less than 30 min. and after the first pop, the session ended quickly.

Went to la Bodeguida, really full of stunners. I could not try one yet.

Went to Veneto Casino, selection was not as high as la Bodeguida.

Further reports will follows.

OTR

The best place in Panama. I followed the trail of an old colombian girlfriend to the bar. She told me she was working cleaning rooms at economy Hotel in Santa Fe when I went there they told me she stayed there but realy worked Baro Boca Torena that is the one gift she gave me was that bar. The beers are a buck the pussy is nice. The one thing I will tell you is that some men make love in there boots and dream there are between silk sheets. Oh yea oh yea oh yea.

I had a very similar experience the one time I took advantage of the early bird special at Oasis. Woman was very attractive, from Cali, but service was lackluster. It was the most rushed massage experience I've had in Panama, by a long shot.

[QUOTE=On The Road]Had a panamian girl, good service but after less than 30 min. and after the first pop, the session ended quickly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaulGore]The best place in Panama. I followed the trail of an old colombian girlfriend to the bar. She told me she was working cleaning rooms at economy Hotel in Santa Fe when I went there they told me she stayed there but realy worked Baro Boca Torena that is the one gift she gave me was that bar. The beers are a buck the pussy is nice. The one thing I will tell you is that some men make love in there boots and dream there are between silk sheets. Oh yea oh yea oh yea.[/QUOTE]Hey PAul,

Can you tell me where this place is?

What kind of a bar is it?

Let me know.

Thanks

Get to the fish market and ask the locals. If the fish market is on your left and the Chinese gate on your right go straight till the end and you will have to turn right about 70 yards on your right there there it is. Sweet little heaven 10 bucks buys you two condoms sex and the room.

For starters, I'd passed by last night, and this dude was trying to sell this girl right off the street. I said I wasn't interested, but they got me to come in & look in, I saw this one girl standing outside club GURU on calle uruguay. Juli she looked HOT (Panamanian, 23 years old, she played hard to get but I insisted and it paided off!) Juli doesn't have fake tits, but she's a beautiful girl anyway, and I figured I couldn't lose... Wow.

I'd brought my own condom, but she insisted on not using one. She then let me bang her every which way (again, I am not-interested in anal, so I don't know about that for her, but WHAT AN ASS!)

Juli is SO nice, she rode me cowgirl-style, but DIDN'T go crazy, so I was able to last about 15 minutes once she got into it, which was nice. It didn't take too long 'till it was over, but this was absolutely worth the $50 and I highly recommend her, they were honest and didn't try to take any more money than the $50 (I gave Juli my own sort of tip, which I'll keep a secret for now). Juli even claimed my Espanol was good (she's totally full of crap on that score, but you all should still make an effort to go and bang such a nice girl who is willing to lie like that!).

Her number is six five eight one - five six three six

Her pimp is six four eight three - one five two seven

For starters, I'd passed by last night, and this dude was trying to sell this girl right off the street. I said I wasn't interested, but they got me to come in & look in, I saw this one girl standing outside club GURU on calle uruguay. Juli she looked HOT (Panamanian, 23 years old, she played hard to get but I insisted and it paided off!) Juli doesn't have fake tits, but she's a beautiful girl anyway, and I figured I couldn't lose... Wow.

I'd brought my own condom, but she insisted on not using one. She then let me bang her every which way (again, I am not-interested in anal, so I don't know about that for her, but WHAT AN ASS!)

Juli is SO nice, she rode me cowgirl-style, but DIDN'T go crazy, so I was able to last about 15 minutes once she got into it, which was nice. It didn't take too long 'till it was over, but this was absolutely worth the $50 and I highly recommend her, they were honest and didn't try to take any more money than the $50 (I gave Juli my own sort of tip, which I'll keep a secret for now). Juli even claimed my Espanol was good (she's totally full of crap on that score, but you all should still make an effort to go and bang such a nice girl who is willing to lie like that!).

Her number is six five eight one - five six three six
Her pimp is six four eight three - one five two seven

[QUOTE=Jimenez]For starters, I'd passed by last night, and this dude was trying to sell this girl right off the street. I said I wasn't interested, but they got me to come in & look in, I saw this one girl standing outside club GURU on calle uruguay. Juli she looked HOT (Panamanian, 23 years old, she played hard to get but I insisted and it paided off!) Juli doesn't have fake tits, but she's a beautiful girl anyway, and I figured I couldn't lose... Wow.
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Is this a working girl? Do you have any photo?

Great report. Several updates: Wasn't impressed with the selection at Habano's, though, there were about 20 aggressive Columbian's hanging around. The cigars and cold beer, though, were nice on the deck.

Wasn't impressed with the selection at The River Club either and left, but enjoyed Crazy Horse the most. They had a $10 off coupon in a tourist news paper and didn't pay the cab driver like most places, which lowers the cost. It is strip club format so you can meet the girls while selecting. I met a very cute petite, but sexy Columbian girl--$75 with coupon for an hour of warm activity, preceded and followed by a shower with mutual massage.

I didn't like Elite II: comfortable chairs and unlimited drinks for $30, but a lot of watching or very expensive "doing", though, the girls are 7 to 10's in quality. This is similar to a high end US strip club, most of which I find sterile and frustrating. VIP room touching/writhing is $35 for two long songs. Sex in a back room is $350; takeout for 3 hours is $400 (150 to the club). The girls overall were too professional and distant for my taste, though, those just wanting lap dances might be happy given the talent.

I had a good time at Oasis massage midday with a 24 year old tall, cute, slim Panamian girl; a few days later I had a mediocre time at night with a Columbian girl. My worst time, though, was at Golden Times--very pretty girls, probably 25 total, however, they had numbers and most had implants and it seemed like they were in a cattle call and hated the scene. My pick was a very beautiful, natural, busty Columbian who was a total starfish in bed with no touching of breasts or groin, holding the edge of the condom throughout, etc. I left in frustration with the clinical, sterile behavior and frowning face being a major turnoff. The manager offered no replacement.

In general, I thought the Panamanian girls I met throughout town were often extremely beautiful with warm personalities. If you are staying a while, this would be an easy place to find a mate. Most of these striking, sexy girls aren't in these sex or massage clubs. Perhaps they are available at the many dance clubs in the Uruguay area? The Venetto Casino had some great live music on Friday with several hundred couples and single girls, but only the pros were easy to meet and they were much less attractive than the local girls (the club was letting in only some of the pros).

[QUOTE=Hobbying]I was there last week and hired a taxi for 10/hr to drive me around to all the clubs/mp's. Alot of places put a sticker on your shirt to signal you came by taxi so it means you pay more to the club or girl will ask more to offset taxi referral.

Elite, $30 all you can drink, exit fee for girl was 120ish (don't recall) girls wanted 200-250 for multi hours. I was there on a Sunday so there wasn't too many quality girls there but I pulled a girl out for 250 for TLN 6 hours. I will have to go back on a weekend when there are more girls.

Cotton, $20 gets you 2 drinks, exit fee depends on how many hours you want girl. I guess if girl makes it back to club or not but it was 190-290 plus girl which I didn't bother asking any cuz all the ones I wanted were with someone or at leaving but heard from waiter its 250 multi hours and 500 for TLN. Definitely the most expensive club but the nicest interior of any club I've seen, has multiple theme rooms. A lesbian room which two girls do a show for 30min for 200. A sushi bar which girl lays down on table with sushi all over her, 30min for 150. A shower room with girl 150, a bedroom which is 400 plus what girl wants. Multiple private dance rooms. Its huge so the place looks really empty which maybe 8 guys in there when I went. Girls there all had great bodies 9-10's, but faces from 7 to 9. Best to get # of girl in private dance room imo to avoid club fee. Taxi gets $50 so girl will ask you for more so best to walk there.

Le Palace, forgot fee but had to pay drinks and exit fee 120 to take girl out. This place is smallest club but the quality was better than Elite and Cotton imo. The girls have better looking faces and there were at least 30 when I went. Place was pretty packed with 20+ guys. Girls wanted 200-250 for 2 hours. I had a bad experience with the girl I took out, she wasn't into the moment when she started giving me HJ in bed she started watching TV, I lost total interest when that happened and wanted her leave though I didn't tell her to. I ask her what she wanted to do and then she said she had to get up early in morning to go to clinic and started getting dressed. I gave 60, said here for your clinic and taxi but she wanted the 250 and started arguing saying we agreed to 250 when in fact we agreed to 200. I said no way, no complete, you want to leave, and it was 200 and your here only 1 hr. I got on the phone and she didn't want to wait around and left. I would go back there and if I see her there I plan on throwing bunch of 5/10/20's to the dancer on stage. If you go there by taxi, they'll get 50 so walk there or else girl will ask for more.

Club Miami, had total lame girls there the night I went. 15 girls, 5 of them were asleep on the couch and 1/2 of them were chunky. Door fee is buying minimum of $10 of drinks. Rooms in back for 95/hr. I stopped in during the day since they open at 2pm. They wanted 350 for 5 hours. Ended up with a really cute girl and did her in the back room for 95. She was good but buzz kill when said in the room no sex for 1 hr straight and then ask for tip at the end. I wouldn't go back there.

Golden Times, had the great selection of girls. 20-25 7-10's. 95/hr or 350 TLN. Like others said go there when the open so you get to see all the girls working and TLN is same price no matter what time you take them out and they're suppose to stay till 4a. M. Took a girl out, total hottie, 5'3 with huge implants, def 9. 5. I wouldn't srepeat as she was not gfe, no kissing, mechanical but good thing she's hot. Ask the english speaking host which girls he would recommend. I would go back there to get girls for TLN. By far the better deal compare to clubs and selection is better imo.

River and Oriental Spa, stopped in and was disappointed at selection.

Carribean spa had a decent selection, 80/hr or 350 for TLN. I would go there as a back up.

Royal Elegance, really low end place but had 10+ girls ranging for 5-7. I wouldn't go back.

Crazy Horse, small club but didn't like any of the 8-10 girls there. Maybe I'll stop in again.

Veneto, had some cute chicas at the bar upstairs but I think freelancers are a bigger risk so I didn't bother just wanted to look though LOL. The spa next to it had low quality girls, the restaurant across the street had 3-5 girls when I looked. Bunch of street walkers by the casino also.

All the girls I met were Columbian and are there for a period of time before going back to Columbia for school etc. All very business like, not so much gfe. CBJ is really a deal breaker for me but it didn't seem like anyone does bbj so just delt with it. I offered a few girls propina for bbj but all said no. One girl told me every Tuesday all club girls have to go get a check up at a clinic and get their id card stamped or else they can't work. Maybe thats why they're ultra safe. Panama is a good city as a short trip since its a short flight but on longer vacations I would not go there. I'm debating on going back since bbj is not common and forget about greek. I recommend doing what I did and hire a taxi to take you to these spots just to have a look. I hit all these spots in 3 days LOL. I might have missed some good spots if anyone can fill me in on them.

HTH

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I am quite fond of GT and visit it often. I have never been disappointed through maybe 40 visits now, but my experiences run from excellent to mediocre. None as cold as described below, and most recently, I selected #46, a tall, light-skinned, fake-tittied caleña who was extremely enjoyable. I always look for the girls who smile during the cattle call. Or, if not a smile at least a subtle twinkle in the eyes or something that suggests they are accommodating. Many (say 80%) seem to have a cold, steeled look, which I avoid. (I can understand why so many do have that cold look.)

So, I'm not trying at all to minimize or dismiss the opinion below, but only trying to present a different opinion for the rational reader to judge. Your results may vary, especially in this oddball world of mongering. I have rarely encountered the "sure thing" where every experience is a guaranteed hit, and I think it's a fine line to judge.

All-in-all, I'd say his report is a very accurate summary of the opportunities in Panama.

[QUOTE=Romeo1]
My worst time, though, was at Golden Times--very pretty girls, probably 25 total, however, they had numbers and most had implants and it seemed like they were in a cattle call and hated the scene. My pick was a very beautiful, natural, busty Columbian who was a total starfish in bed with no touching of breasts or groin, holding the edge of the condom throughout, etc. I left in frustration with the clinical, sterile behavior and frowning face being a major turnoff. The manager offered no replacement.
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[QUOTE=Romeo1] holding the edge of the condom throughout[/QUOTE]Every girl I saw there did that too. It was annoying since it prevented me from going all the way in and getting a good rthym going.

Hello everyone, been to Panama once and am arriving tomorrow for three nights. Did pretty much what everyone else does on a first trip, looking to spice things up a bit.

Does anyone know of any places in the Calle Uruguay area that would fall somewhere in between La Bodeguita and Guru? I'm not talking about geographically, I've actually done that walk and I know there are a ton of places there, but I mean a place with music, not as big and chic as guru (I know Guru isn't all that chic but for Latam it's pretty chic, it's not like Nuth or Zero Zero in Rio or anything), but not as full of working girls as La Bodeguita? I don't mind working girls, actually like it that they are around, but I don't need them. And if I want them, it's freaking Panama, I sure know where to get them until 6 a.m.

But would love to find some other places to grab a drink. I mean I'll hit Goldentime at 7:30, followed by a drink or two around 10 at Habanos, maybe catch a glimpse of Elite or Le Palace and maybe get a number... and probably once in a while head to Miami Club, but in the rest of that night time, I would like to have more options than La Bodeguita. Anyone have any ideas???

Much appreciated, (damn I miss Rio, it's only been 11 days)
IHE

Free Here,

Sorry Icy, there is nothing like what you are looking for. The ONLY thing that comes SOMEWHAT close, (and its still a far cry from what you are requesting) is Sahara Bar. It is on the same street as Moods disco. Maybe give it a shot, but im not sure you will like it. Shot me a PM, I dont think Ill be doing much tommorow night. May bet a few baseball games.

PS-I hate to say this but, coming from Rio (the land of milk and honey) you are going to see Panama with different eyes..Hahahaha. After my first Rio trip, I came back to Panama and didnt even want to go out. I LOVE RIO!!

Free

Sahara has great music and a nice bar on the patio, but as Free says, it's probably not exactly what you're looking for. It's more laid back than LB and Guru, and there aren't many hookers there.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Sahara has great music and a nice bar on the patio, but as Free says, it's probably not exactly what you're looking for. It's more laid back than LB and Guru, and there aren't many hookers there.[/QUOTE]I hear you guys. And believe me, if I could be in Rio over a three day weekend I would, but I just can't miss work. I've been to Rio 6 times in the last 13 months and I've been here once before, I know what the deal is and believe me, 100 Panamas would never be Rio. That being said, there is fun to be had here, and besides, I'm going to be living in Brasil wihtin 24 months anyways.

I will be in Panama city this weekend (Sept 5-7).

Could someone recommend a place to watch American football?

Don't really care if there are chicas there, just want to watch the games.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Devils 1]I will be in Panama city this weekend (Sept 5-7).

Could someone recommend a place to watch American football?

Don't really care if there are chicas there, just want to watch the games.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hooters, Fridays

[QUOTE=Devils 1]I will be in Panama city this weekend (Sept 5-7).

Could someone recommend a place to watch American football?

Don't really care if there are chicas there, just want to watch the games.

Thanks[/QUOTE]When I am in Panama City, I spend a lot of time at the Veneto Casino watching American sports.

You can also watch the chicas while there.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Sahara has great music and a nice bar on the patio, but as Free says, it's probably not exactly what you're looking for. It's more laid back than LB and Guru, and there aren't many hookers there.[/QUOTE]Hi Tiny,

I am going to Panama in a few weeks. Can you tell me where Guru is?

[quote=runner up]hello,
i think it was an all inclusive place called camarones. this is a rep001tered message and i apologize for it but just fishing for ideas.[/quote]

lol thats the decameron. yep, for family trip thats a good choice. for solo/mongering, stay in ground zero, book an hotel not too expensive but decent and hit habanos, bodeguita, and if you have enough enerygy left, after 430am hit via espana, a place called casa juancho, on the same row as cotton club. all pros gather there after work for a drink and maybe a extra job. ive seen beauties getting out of there around 630-7 am when im driving to work.
makes me wanna miss work and get in!

runner up, sounds like you've finally come to your senses. panama is about 500x better for hookers and nonpros than gdl. panama hotel is fine while you're with your family. when you're prowling around pick marriott, veneto, ejecutivo, las vegas, or montreal (those are in order from highest to lowest price and all in good area for mongering). i'd recommend playa blanca over decameron, a little more expensive but worth it. never been to bocas de toro but i've heard good things about it. you'll be roughing it more than at the decameron/playa blanca, and it's considerably harder to get to. if you want to get away from the beach and see some things like you'd see in mountains/hills of costa rica, i'd recommend el valle close to panama city. the boquete area is perhaps better, but hard to get to. david is not worth seeing, except passing through on the way to boquete/volcan.


[quote=runner up]hello,

i have to get surgery in nov from a shoulder injury and will be in a sling for 6 weeks. i want to do a trip before my surgery. i was thinking about guadalajara but then i started thinking mexico might suck why not panama again? i have been to panama 2 other times and remember the non pros were easily had. once with a friend that grew up there and once with a gringo. spent time in panama city, colon and isla grande. here is what i was thinking of doing. 1 week solo and 1 week with my 2 young kids and wife. is the panama hotel still around? i remembered it having a large pool and being pretty nice. what would you do with your family in panama? bocas del toro? santa catalina, david. actually i went to contadora (spelling) as well, pretty isolated and boring. could a week in panama city alone and a week venturing around with kids and wife be fun for all? any hotel recomendations with stuff for kids? or kids activities in panama city? i speak spanish. any info as a single guy and with a family would be appreciated. where should i stay when i get there before my family does? i rented a car last time and drove about 2 hours north to a resort and a beach. i think it was an all inclusive place called camarones. this is a rep001tered message and i apologize for it but just fishing for ideas.[/quote]

Travelwind, It's in the club district close to Calle Uruguay. This is a great area to party, and if you don't get lucky there are the pros at La Bodeguita on the south end of the Calle Uruguay and at Elite which is just west of the north end. Just get in the general vicinity and ask where to find Guru. Or better yet where the best clubs are -- the hot clubs change frequently.

[QUOTE=TravelWind]Hi Tiny,

I am going to Panama in a few weeks. Can you tell me where Guru is?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Travelwind, It's in the club district close to Calle Uruguay. This is a great area to party, and if you don't get lucky there are the pros at La Bodeguita on the south end of the Calle Uruguay and at Elite which is just west of the north end. Just get in the general vicinity and ask where to find Guru. Or better yet where the best clubs are -- the hot clubs change frequently.[/QUOTE]Hi Tiny,

Thank you for the information.

I will try to check them out next week.

I have been to La Bodeguita a few years ago. I will go back a again this visit.

I liked the place.

I am hoping to visit some other places this time.

Thanks again,

TW

Are there any more places in the club district like La Bodeguita or is this the only one where the free-lancers/pros hang out?

I went to Club Midnight on Wednesday night and actually had some good luck. This place was only a couple of blocks from my hotel. I paid $12 to get in which included 2 beers. Chica drinks here are $15. They have continuous strip shows starting around 10 PM. There were about 12 or 14 chicas and 2 were in my doable range. Most of the chicas were from Colombia.

I settled on a chica from Medellin that was 27 years old (I like experience)with store bought tits after she did a very good stage show. She told me that she used to dance at Mangoes and Face Dos in Medellin. I neg. BBBJ and DFK before going to the onsite room. The onsite options were 30 min. for $60 or 1 hr. for $120. I´m sure takeout is very expensive. I chose to try her out with the 30 min. option.

The room was not the best. It was clean and had a shower, but only had a good sized massage table. I looked at several rooms and none had a bed. I enjoyed the session (just a little short). She lives in the club and readily gave me her phone number. I´m sure her plan is to make as much money as possible over the next few months and head back to Medellin. I plan to call her for longer session in my hotel room this weekend.

Hey guys,

Baro Boca Torena ten bucks for sex why you paying big money.

This is probably coming a little late, but is worth the share.
At the Marriott's casino, 2nd floor there is a bar call SPORTSBOOKS, you can watch in there any American Sport, plus if you are feeling lucky, you can also bet on the game.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Devils 1]I will be in Panama city this weekend (Sept 5-7).

Could someone recommend a place to watch American football?

Don't really care if there are chicas there, just want to watch the games.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Went in today and met this girl, skinny, 27 yo, 1.70+ m, almost no breasts, eraser nipples, fine small bubble ass, long legs and fine featured (just my type) and always smiling and in good mood.

Had a nice hour+, at the regular price, plus some extras negotiated directly in the room. Total was 150 for a multi pop, extra rich, GFE session, flame on all you 20$/bang guys, I won't be paying attention. To each his own.

Session was not out of this world, more fault on me then her though. Too long a time from last girl, frequency gets you quality ! Something tells me this girl will get really good after second/third session.

Only problem was constant noises and distraction from outside the room. She even left/came back a couple of times.

I went to Club Miami on Friday night. There were over 20 girls there but I was not impressed with the quality since I tend to like thin girls. There is a $5 if you pay with your credit card. $5 for an imported beer. My main issue with Miami is that the place is fairly dark, so sometimes it's hard to see the girl. The girls just seem to sit and talk among them unless you signal them to join you. The more aggresive ones will try to make eye contact or sit down with you. I settled on a tall, skinny girl with natural breasts from Cali called Carolina. The service was OK.

On Saturday night, I went to Golden Time. There were also over 20 girls there. I certainly think that the quality at the Golden Time is better than at Club Miami. I selected #15 called Jamie: a thin, medium height with very nice natural breasts girl from Pereira. While it wasn't a GFE, she more than made it up to me with a very tight p***y, a ribbed, ultra-thin condom, and the appropriate noises at the appropriate times. I would definitely repeat.

To me, I prefer Golden Time since there is a better light to see the girls, although with Club Miami you can spend more time talking to the girl before deciding to do the deed or not.

I agree with that review of Miami and Golden Time. I went to both last week and to be honest, I was not impressed with the overall quality at Miamia. Golden Time was Ok, but nothing out of this world. Keep in mind that the last quarter of the year is the slowest one given that most girls go back to Colombia to spend the holidays at home.

Just checking before making reservations, is hotel ejecutivo and the continental still guest friendly? The websites make them out to being hotels in the business district and havent seen any updates about them on the board.

Thanks

Woo, Somebody wrote here not long ago that the Continental Riande was no longer guest friendly. Ejecutivo charged me about $10 extra to bring a woman in during the evening and had her register, but it wasn't hard to slip one in during daytime.

I am shipping out for the Middle East before the holidays. I would like the forum's advice in deciding where I should I go for some pre-deployment mongering, as where I am going will be as dry as a bone.

I used to go to Tijuana in 2000, have been to San Jose in 2006, and have made several recent trips to Panama City. I hope to get in a October and an early November trip in, each of a week or less duration.

A short Tijuana trip would have easy logistics. Fewer questions are asked for a pass to Los Angeles. A flight from the east coast (IAD or RIC) isn't too expensive, and hopefully neither are hotels and rental cars in San Diego. I don't know what the current quality of the AB and CC talent is.

Costa Rica requires a cover story. Getting a good rate on a flight and a hotel might require at least a month's advance purchase. I recall the talent in the lobby of the Del Rey ranged from porn star to fryolater operator at the Dairy Queen.

Panama requires a cover story, good rates for flight/hotel. However, I could easily spend a week going through the "sampler package" at Golden Times. (Have they raised their prices?) I am still fascinated by the snap shots I took of one particular CMM (Colombian Mattress Monster)....

So help a fellow monger out. Where would you go if you could do two short (and hopefully not too expensive) trips?

Just finished both Tj and Pan City. (within a months span)

Tj- Adelitas Great price. Good Quality. Easy Peasy. But only 2-3 other optins in city that are worth it.

Panama. There is a trip and hotels added cost. But if you get there. Gold times. Wow. Quality better but overall more effort. More options in City like L Palace OMG. Like 20 0f 28 level 9-10. But almost vegas price. Whats point.

I looked at tiny's fantasy map but can't locate bodeguita. Can someone give me the direction there from Veneto or an address of this place.

Thanks

Iguana Six,

Thank you for your service and keep your head down amigote.

Just my 2Charlies, but I've been going to San Jose lately, even over Thailand. I've come on here looking to get info on the PTY scene and have [b]sticker shock[/b]. I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing, these prices sound outrageous (sorry to my PTY brothers, no disrespect meant to PTY).

I want to come check out Panama, but at these prices I'm having a hard time. I mean, guys are throwing around $200-$300-$400 numbers without any hint of sarcasm.

Daytime rates in the Del Rey in CR right now are about $50, stunning Columbianas at night (without any negotiation on your part) wont run more than $100 (and that's if your too lazy to nego). You can get a PSE at ZB for $70 (including a generous tip), and low end stuff like LaMansion is $22.50 (with some cuties if you're luck holds).

PTY guys, help me out, I've read the last three pages or so today just to get a rundown, what am I missing? What don't I get? This looks like crazy money when CR is dropping prices daily. Again, I don't mean to slam Panama, I'm here because I want to come. But I'm missing something.

Archieleach, recent CR convert from LOS.

Turns out I will be going to PTY this month, after all, since someone else will be paying my way to Miami.

Made the plane reservation, so now I am trying to find a decent hotel.

Has anyone had any recent experience with the Benidorm?

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]Iguana Six,

I've come on here looking to get info on the PTY scene and have [b]sticker shock[/b]. I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing, these prices sound outrageous (sorry to my PTY brothers, no disrespect meant to PTY).

I want to come check out Panama, but at these prices I'm having a hard time. I mean, guys are throwing around $200-$300-$400 numbers without any hint of sarcasm.

PTY guys, help me out, I've read the last three pages or so today just to get a rundown, what am I missing? What don't I get? This looks like crazy money when CR is dropping prices daily. Again, I don't mean to slam Panama, I'm here because I want to come. But I'm missing something.

Archieleach, recent CR convert from LOS.[/QUOTE]

Panama is pretty basic. Fly into a modern hotel with decent air connections to Miami or Atlanta. You will pay stateside prices for hotels, although the 4-star hotels are a bargain compared to US big city prices. ($125-$200 a night, they are centrally located, and most are chica-friendly. In the case of the Veneto, you can bring a provider right up from the in house casino). Food is cheaper than in the states. Cabs are $1-3 dollars depending upon how far you go.

The Oasis has a $50 lunch special, but you will pay more ($65) after 2pm and have more variety after the early evening shift change. RecluseX ran a picture of their line up six months ago, and I've worked with 4-5 of the providers in his picture. Occassionally, a real gem will be in there, like Gloria the paisa, or the 1/4 Chinese Connie of a few years ago.

The MP's a half mile down Via Espana (behind the Blockbuster and down from the "other" Manolo's restaurant, have also had some diamonds in the rough. One Relax Oriental girl gave me a very jazzy week after she quit. A River Club girl who graduated to Miami Club has been a regular stop for me since 2004. Prices are about $60-70, although I once negotiated a two hours take-out session with Relax Oriental on a Sunday night and got my mind blown by a little Indian spinner with C-cups.

Habanos is a quiet cigar bar across from the Mariott. Many beautiful freelancer Colombians. Negotiate what you can, but you are paying an extra $20 premium built into the price just because they cater to the Marriot Hotel crowd.

Miami Club and Golden Times can both be walked to by telling the cabbie to take you to the Casino Fantastic. Miami Club is a strip bar with rooms in the back. I think there price is a little less than GT's. The gals will sit and talk with you without too much pressure for lady's drinks.

I regret not going to Golden Times sooner. The place is the best. Again, have the cabbie drop you off at the Casino Fantastic, go in and count to to 100. By the time you come out, your cabbie will have gotten another fare, and you can walk the block and a half to GT, thereby lowering your price from $94.50 to $84.50.

Sit down in the comfy chairs of the well-lit waiting room. Accept a free drink (that's what your 50 cents paid for), and reach for one of the handy pads and pencils next to the Barco-lounger. Prepare for the parade of beautiful ladies and start deciding which ones strike your fancy. They wear number pendants, so write down your favorite numbers and decide which ones you want to see again. Pick one and ask for the nice attendants to send her in to talk to you. She will sit next to you and you can talk. If there is no chemistry, politely send her back outside, and ask the attendant to send it your next choice.

If there is any chemistry, you ask her to join you upstairs, you go back to the front and you pay. Upstairs, the rooms are clean, have showers, 2 massage tables you can push together (or not), adjustable lighting, and a phone so she can call in the start of your hour. Towels are clean, fluffy, and thirsty. There are metal pipes running along the ceiling so she can walk on your back, and she has gotten some training in Thai-type massage.

The facility is first rate. Half the girls are pretty, and the other half are just plain gorgeous, and a couple will make love to you so energetically you'll wish the room came with a "How to do CPR" poster on the wall and cardiac paddles. "Clear!" and the price structure is very fixed. I wish they would have a discount card ("buy 9, and your tenth is free!"). There are a few Dominicans, some locals, but many Colombians. All the Paisa love without the Colombian danger. It opens at 7pm. What is there NOT to love about Golden Times?

Sure, sure. It will never match the Shangri-La that was Honduras during the 1980's (an hour for $20, or 6-hour, 5 "polvo" TLN's for $100), but I am not in my twenties anymore and really appreciate one or two crazed weasel encounters that leave me totally spent a night.

Leach, I've made maybe 5 or 6 trips to Costa Rica and 10 to Panama, and disagree with your interpretation of what you've read here. Expanding on what Iguana said, you'll run across stunners at Golden Time who are every bit as beautiful as any you'll find in the Del Rey. The cost is $85 in Panama versus $100 in the Del Rey. I'm talking about the ones that are the hottest in the DR, during the evening, that you can't negotiate down from $100.

If you're looking for freelancers in Panama, La Bodeguita and Habano's are good places, but you won't find the sheer quantity of women or as many stunners as in the Del Rey, and you need to go to both at peak hours. For LB, that means very late, by my standards.

While I can't think of anything in Panama that quite duplicates Zona Blue, or whatever it's called now, in that ZB has the bar and a lot of chicas. But the MP's in Panama do have women that are just as good looking or maybe a little better looking than what you'll find in ZB, and the price is only marginally higher. And there are the $20 options in Panama, although I haven't had much experience there.

About your comments about crazy money, yeah, you'll spend $350 for TLN with a woman from GT, but that's about what you'd pay at the Del Rey for the same woman. And the owners of GT are getting their cut. And then there are the crazy prices at Le Palace and Elite. But nobody pays them, they negotiate to meet the girl after work or the next day. And I'm sure there are high end gentlemen's clubs in San Jose where you'd pay the same.

I don't think Panama is superior to San Jose, though. It's just different. Mongering in Costa Rica is a little easier -- there's more of a mongering infrastructure, like there is in Thailand. The Del Rey is there 24 hours a day and you have some great daytime MP's that are easy to get too. The daytime options in Panama are more spread out. I like the climate and the small city feel in Costa Rica better. Panama has better hotels and restaurants. It's probably worth going to once, just to see if you like it.

Tiny and IG,

Thanks for your information. It encourages me a little.

The Golden Times $85 deal doesn't sound terrible. GT is a little more than you'd pay in CR, but it sounds like the talent may justify the increase.

And the Columbianas for $85 are a good deal (if only $15 different) if they aren't as hardened as the top notch Columbianas in the Del Rey which are almost invariably starfish. The girls that are the most fun in CR are generally around $60-80.

I think you're probably right about the fact that you CAN pay higher prices, and listening to what some of the guys here were talking about I got the impression that it was the baseline for the scene and that sounds inaccurate. I know there are some lunatics spending $200 in the Del Rey. As you said it sounds like the options are just a little more limited or less convenient in PTY, but probably not unmanageably so.

I look forward to trying it out sometimes soon. It's on the list, but with constant trips to CR, the diversions list, which already included Rio, BA, and MDE is getting long LOL.

I do think the hotels and food are more expensive in PTY though, a good hotel in SJO will run you $80 with tax, and you can eat dinner for $15, no problem. But I hear the city is "nicer" in Panama, or at least more cosmopolitan, and more what we think of as a city compared to SJO, which is an unappealing dump (but certainly small and manageable).

Leach, Hotels like the Marriott and Veneto are more expensive, but they're also a lot better than any girl-friendly places in San Jose, including Hotel M. If you want to compare apples to apples, Hotel Ejecutivo or Plaza Paitilla might be equivalent to Presidente and will cost you around $100 to $130. Panama hotels used to be a better bargain than San Jose, but the economic boom has pushed prices way up.

Food is cheaper in Panama.

[QUOTE=Hooboo]I looked at tiny's fantasy map but can't locate bodeguita. Can someone give me the direction there from Veneto or an address of this place.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hooboo, It's better to take a cab, unless maybe you want to wander by Elite, Le Palace, Habano's or some of the nightclubs on Uruguay, which are on the way from the Veneto. La Bodeguita is south and a little west of Fantasy's map. Anyway, on Fantasy's map, starting at the Hotel Ejecutivo, go south. From Calle 52 and Hotel Ejecutivo, you'll go one long block on your left and I think two blocks on your right (because there's a road that dead ends into the long block.) Take a right on the major road you come to and walk west. Keep a look out to your left for Calle Uruguay, which will be just before you get to Elite nightclub. Hook a left on Calle Uruguay and walk south. La Bodeguita is at the end of the nightclub district on the right side of the road (Calle Uruguay). Happy hunting -- and remember LB doesn't really get going until about 11:00 PM.

BTW, I enjoyed all your informative posts.

for any locals here, I pose these two questions:

1. What do you think was going on with the 3 chicas and the dude that gassed themselves in the pushy-push? Is it related to the mongering scene here?

2. Has anyone bagged some chica, 'specially una azafata, that is a regular on dealante punto com or el cuara punto com or any of the other bar scene websites in pty? I recently read a comment there that suggested that many of the models earned special money on the side, so I am wondering if anyone has partaken, and if so, how it was accomplished.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]for any locals here, I pose these two questions:

1. What do you think was going on with the 3 chicas and the dude that gassed themselves in the pushy-push? Is it related to the mongering scene here?

2. Has anyone bagged some chica, 'specially una azafata, that is a regular on dealante punto com or el cuara punto com or any of the other bar scene websites in pty? I recently read a comment there that suggested that many of the models earned special money on the side, so I am wondering if anyone has partaken, and if so, how it was accomplished.[/QUOTE]1- I don't think you need much imagination to figure out what were 3 girls and one guy doing in that push button room. <G I don't believe that it was related to the mongering scene. The impression I get from the local press is three "high on something" girls and one "high on something" guy decide to do the "nasty" in the afternoon. They go to the push button, and forget to turn off the engine of the Land Rover they were on. No one who is sober could possibly forget to turn off the engine of their car.

2- Add me also to the list of those curious about the "azafatas". There are some which I would definitely love to partake in. While I'm sure that some do earn extra money in that way, I'm also not sure how to go about it.

Hey Guys,

Like a previous post, I'm a frequent traveler to CR, first time to PTY coming up next month. I'm traveling with a couple guys who've been there before, but they're not as eager as I am to get a taste of the local culture. Can you chime in on where the most reasonable places are to hook-up, either on-site or take out? I'm not looking for 10s, a good 7 is fine with me. And keep in mind that I'm not looking to pay $200 a pop. I just want maybe 5 places to score a decent time at a reasonable price. As to pros in the casinos...what is the going rate?

Onr last thing, I'm staying at Tower House Suites...anyone know their guest policy?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rick Anderson]1- I don't think you need much imagination to figure out what were 3 girls and one guy doing in that push button room. <G I don't believe that it was related to the mongering scene. The impression I get from the local press is three "high on something" girls and one "high on something" guy decide to do the "nasty" in the afternoon. They go to the push button, and forget to turn off the engine of the Land Rover they were on. No one who is sober could possibly forget to turn off the engine of their car.
[/QUOTE]

sad to say 3 of the deceased were friends of mine, not too close but friends anyways. Right now everything is just theories and especulations, but the actual truth I think is not going to be known.
As the most accurate version that I've heard from more close friends of them, they were listening to music with the engine running, and yes either they were either too drunk or heavy on something else and they passed out or got hit by the CO coming from the car.
That everything that Id say about that incident, it depresses me

I regret not going to Golden Times sooner. The place is the best. Again, have the cabbie drop you off at the Casino Fantastic, go in and count to to 100. By the time you come out, your cabbie will have gotten another fare, and you can walk the block and a half to GT, thereby lowering your price from $94. 50 to $84. 50.

I'm a little confused about this golden time thing. Where are you taking a cab from if it costs 94. 50? Columbia. Or does that include anything else. Thanks for the info though, good stuff!

[QUOTE=Fatso35]I'm a little confused about this golden time thing. Where are you taking a cab from if it costs 94. 50? Columbia. Or does that include anything else. Thanks for the info though, good stuff![/QUOTE]

Fatso, you are indeed confused. The cabbie will charge you the usual $2-3 to take you from the hotel/casino district to the El Dorado neighborhood. If you have the cabbie take you to Golden Times, he will follow you inside, and while you are sitting on the Barcoloungers in the waiting room, GT will pay him the $10 bounty they offer to any cabbie who brings in a customer. This expense is added to your bill and you will pay GT $10 more, than you would have if you just walked in by yourself.

So, if you want to pay $84.50 instead of $94.50, ask the cabbie to take you to the Casino Fantastic. It is located within a block and a half of Crazy Horse, Miami Club, and Golden Times. Very convenient, and by the time you step into the casino, use their rest room, and step back out, your cabbie will have found another fare and left.

I once made the mistake of telling a cabbie to take me to the Bodeguita, then changed my mind and asked him to take me to the Popeye's Chicken in the same strip mall as GT. He already figured out what I wanted, so he stopped right in front of GT, got out, pointed me out to the doorman, and even though I immediately went into Popeye's, he still got his $10. I stood around in the inside of Popeye's until I could feel the chicken fat smell start to permeate my clothes and returned to GT, where I still had to pay the higher price.

Hotel Benidorm is a decent place. Been there a couple times for TNL, but you need to pay for a double room.

You can find some street action one block south at Avenida Cuba, but the quality is not high. Also, you may wanna check the casino at Hotel Soloy.

[QUOTE=Iguana Six]Turns out I will be going to PTY this month, after all, since someone else will be paying my way to Miami.

Made the plane reservation, so now I am trying to find a decent hotel.

Has anyone had any recent experience with the Benidorm?[/QUOTE]

"Sorry for your loss -- The girls were pretty fuckable, do you agree?"

Sexy boy, alias Pty Sexy or KOS, I'm taking donations to send you to charm school. That's pretty tasteless.

[QUOTE=LatinJaguar27]Hotel Benidorm is a decent place. Been there a couple times for TNL, but you need to pay for a double room.

You can find some street action one block south at Avenida Cuba, but the quality is not high. Also, you may wanna check the casino at Hotel Soloy.[/QUOTE]

How much is the "chica fee" at the Benidorm? Would I have to pay it for all of my stay, or just the nights I have TLN?

Hotel Soloy? Didn't know it was so close to the Benidorm. I had actually stayed in the the Soloy back in 86-87. Such great memories. It wasn't bad back then. Has the Soloy and the neighborhood turned into a dump since then? I remember that on the first or second night I was there, a girl with a sexy voice called up and tried to talk me into a short time. I was younger, more idealistic back then, and I was spooked by the anti-terrorism briefs we got at Fort Bragg, so I didn't even ask her to meet me in the lobby so I could check her out. Besides, that night, my buddy and I were going to hit the clubs. We hooked up with a tall brunette and a shorter, curvier black girl at one club. I got talked into buying a bottle of champagne (for $50!). I had danced with the black girl, but handed her off to my buddy when I met her friend. Big mistake. He wound up with TLN with the black girl, the brunette was morning the loss of her boyfriend.

Flew in from Miami on Copa. It was actually a good experience. They showed a movie I hadn't seen before, Get Smart, and it wasn't bad. The Kosher meal was good, too. Always order kosher, even if you aren't of that persuasion, as the meal is always better.

Grabbed my carry on bags, stomped off the plane, and beat almost everyone to immigration. But there was a long line at customs...perhaps several planes came in at the same time. It was evening.

Went upstairs, to catch a cab. Cabbies are dropping off passengers and do not want to drive away empty, so they will take $20 instead of $25. But unlike last time, where I got a cabbie with a nice new Yaris with the aircon blasting, I got a rickety cab and a cabbie who picked up too scruffy looking dudes headed to the flea bag flop house next the Euro Hotel. You guessed it, not only did he drop them off first, he did it after NOT taking the toll road!
Curses! A long hot trip.

Benidorm was a shock. I was prepared for a more dodgy neighborhood, but the room was a big disappointment. Furniture and paint job that was old...like disco era old! The remote control didn{t work. There was only one towel. AND they wouldn't award me my frequent flyer miles. I checked the Soloy and the Veracruz. No openings. I called the Los Arcos. They said to try after 11pm, or better yet, the next morning. That sounded like a plan.

Showered, changed, and took a cab to the Casino Fantastic. While I waited for the cabbie to go away, I saw the opening to some athletic event back in the states on the big screen. Someone was singing America the Beautiful. I stopped, watched, and was discussing as the stadium camera caught players chewing gum, drinking things, and picking their nose, which pissed me off. It was a beautiful rendition and I was transfixed. A Panamanian couple walked by, and the woman made a snide remark along the lines, of "look, the American's got a tear in his eye" I figured it was time to go.

First stop, Miami Club. Cruised the floor until I found Karina, who has been a regular stop for me in PTY since I met her in the River Club in 2004. We got caught up, she got two ficha drinks, I got a tiny OJ and was then hit by a $29 bar tab. We made an appointment for an off-premises date, which is the only kind I have with her. Maybe, this visit I can get her help in arranging a three way with another MC girl.

LEFT MC and checked out Crazy Horse. Wasn't impressed by their stable, but it was dark. In and out, told the touts that I was scoping out a local for my friends batchelor party. Maybe next time I bring my own candles to see the girls better.

Golden Times is as well run as ever. Gotta love the expat Chinese management. The stable was smaller than last summer and spring, but there were still some stunners. But I ran into #23 who I got close to on my last visit. We talked and she was as sweet as ever, but the BBBJ of the previous trip is no longer on the menu. Still, I took her upstairs, and we had a great time. Didn't like the flavored condom for CBJ, but she wiped it off and did her usual great job. She gave me her digits and we set up an off campus date for the next day.

Went back the casino and got a ride home from an incoming cab. The room did not improve while I was away. I tried to sleep, but the loud throb from some airconditioning or ventalation unit just outside my window actaully made my ears ring by 3am. Why did I know it was 3am? BEcause that{s when it turned off. Closing the bathroom door helped, but a couple of hours later, the street traffic news picked up and it was so annoying, I had to put on my Bose noise reduction headphones to drown it out! Didn't get much sleep because I woke up every time I moved from my sleeping on my back position, which disturbed the headphones.

I gotta get out of the Benidorm. Lesson learned. Next time, if my plane come in between 10am and 2pm, I will not bother to make a reservation and just as the cabbie to take me directly to Los Arcos. I may have to wait in the comfortable, air conditioned waiting room until a room opens up, but it beats any other price and quality mix out there.

Where and what is the Crazy Horse? BTW, I don't think Miami charges you extra if you come in a taxi.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Where and what is the Crazy Horse? BTW, I don't think Miami charges you extra if you come in a taxi.[/QUOTE]

The Crazy Horse is between Fantastic Casino and Miami Club. It is down hill from the main drag. You can smell it when you get close....there is a Texas style BBQ restaurant downstairs from the club....even though the entrance is the ground floor.

There are three prices at Miami Club. Chinese price ($60 or something low like that....the owner is Chinese, and what better way to impress your friends in the community?), $85 for Panamanians (or those that can pass....but don´t use a credit card, as they ask for a Cedula) and the 95$ price for foreigners. My regular date tells me that the higher price is to offset the bounty they give taxi drivers.

To me, that sounds right, since GT charges $85 if you walk over, and their girls are prettier, there is no ficha drinks, and the lighting and rooms are some much better.

woke up to the sound of an explosion of some time during the night, went back to sleep, only to be woken by street noise. it was 830am when the found myself in the sleazy dodginess of the benidorm. i had to get out of there.

i started walking in the general direction of los arcos, stopping for directions twice. it was a long walk, as it was very sunny and hot. when i got there, i the lady at the front desk told me to come back at noon, which wasn´t for another three hours. i had taken a bag of dirty laundry with me, and she guided me to chinese laundry (next door), a supermarket/cafeteria/pharmacy around the corner, and an internet cafe down the hill.

a better neighborhood, a room that was three times as good for jus 3/4 of the price, and all the conveniences. cool beans. dropped of my laundry for just $2, had a nice eggs/tortilla/pastel breakfast for $3, drank a liter of kiwi/strawberry juice for just a 85 cents from the supermarket. and this is just 2 blocks from via espana, and 8 blocks from the veneto. yeah, this will work.

took a cab back to the benidorm, but the block was choked with traffic, so i had him drop me off at the immigration office at the corner. spotted mormon missionaries in their uniforms outside, probably there to update their visas. did spot a cute chinese spinner, a rarity in this country, as most chinese are cantonese, and the cantonese are not the most beautiful of the chinese peoples.

took the cell phone i bought in guatemala last summer. tried two different cell phone places, both owned by cantonese. the first guy couldn't open the case. the second guy could, but only after cutting past the epoxy. when the got the back off, and pried off the battery, he found the chip was covered in epoxy, too. no dice. he did sell me a nice $17 cell phone and $5 card that was on triple points that day.

went back to the benidorm. got my stuff out of the strong box. packed. when i checked out they tried to give me 'store credit' instead of a refund for the three nights i would not be using (they made me pay for 4 nights in advance), but i wasn´t having it.

got a cab to los arcos and they had a nice room ready. called up number 23 from gt at 1pm, but she was just getting up. it took her a while to get a cab, and it rained like crazy that afternoon, but she finally showed up at 430pm. i killed time by checking out the daytime stable at oasis (just 4, no stunners, but the tall milf with the pam grier features was on duty - plush and attractive as ever, but the last time i did the $50 lunch special with her, the condom broke and she got very moody with me) and by going to the copa airlines office on via espana. it took 55 minutes of waiting in line to buy a plane ticket for my nica girlfriend to join me in costa rica. i could have bought them in the airport in miami the day before, but the gal at the gate suggested i save $15 by buying it in the office in pty. i knew what i wanted, the prices and the flights and the dates so i did my business in jig time, but everyione before obviously does not have access to the internet, so they go up there and ask hundred of questions.

it is interesting how gt number 23 became a regular thing. during my february trip, i met paulina, who was such a wildcat at gt, in my hotel room, and in her room at the ´residencial´, that she basically used me like a work out machine. when i came back in june, paulina had gone back to colombia, so i took her friend, number 27 jessica upstairs a couple of times. like paulina, jessica would do bbbj. i had arranged for an off site date, but she stood me up, and i went back to gt and took her friend mumber 23 upstairs and gave her some perfume i bought for jessica, after verifying that 23 would do bbbj. number 23 came to my room once, but underestimated how long it would take to get from the veneto to gt, and was heavily fined. i took her out for a tln and breakfast after that. number 23 is very much a gfe, which is very nice, but a little disappointing after the roller coaster ride, crazed-weasel-sex i experienced with the two previous colombians.

but 23 is very sweet. with her braces and with her dimples that could be used to smuggle marbles, she is like the loving college girlfriend you had before she broke up with you to marry a doctor but who calls you up after ten years when she discovers he was a fruit and just married her so he would have a beard. her oral technique made up for the new found no-bbbj policy and when she rode me cowgirl and reverse cowgirl, she showed flashes of the paisa animalism i missed. truly multi-orgasmic, she likes daty and has a pussy that will try to milk you dry when she comes.

afterwards, we rushed to the middle eastern restaurant. we had three different appetisers for a quick dinner - hummus and pita bread, kibbe, and stuffed grape leaves. she loved the kibbe the best. for me, the kibbe was just like momma used to make, so it was comfort food. a real nice dinner for two for just $17, and i put her in a cab at 630pm so she would not get fined.

gotta go. got an off-site date with this gem i found in relax oriental.

[QUOTE=Iguana Six]The Crazy Horse is between Fantastic Casino and Miami Club. It is down hill from the main drag. You can smell it when you get close....there is a Texas style BBQ restaurant downstairs from the club....even though the entrance is the ground floor.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Iguana. Nice reports.

had a good night's sleep at los arcos. went to the riba smith grocery/pharmacy/cafeteria around the corner for breakfast. got some fresh cut fruit salad, some deli-sliced turkey, and a liter of orange juice (for 95 cents). with some leftover pita bread, i made a nice turkey sandwich, but i could have hit the bakery for some fresh rolls or french crescents for some pocket change.

i thought about going back to oasis to see if the lunch time line up has changed, but some intuition made me take a cab to the blockbuster video on via espana (which is where you get dropped off when you want to go to the relax oriental or the river club mp's.)

the rc was closed, but the ro had a pleasant surprise. there was a very pleasant, friendly looking provider i had never seen before. alicia reminded me of a mix of salma hayak and penelope cruz. susana the proprietor quoted me a price of $23, which was less than half the lunch time special of oasis, which was very fortunate, because i had exactly $27 in my pocket and relax was not accepting credit cards.

i took alicia to the back, my first time for ro. i have only taken one provider out of ro, and never had in-house, so it was a new experience. ro has very rustic accommodations. the cribs just have a fan, a chair, a small end table, and a massage table. alicia turned out to be very cute and chatty, and we hit it off very quickly. a nursing student, she agreed to use a female condom, but would not provide a bbbj. the session started out so well, that i asked if she would consider doing an outcall with me. she agreed, but immediately asked if wanted anal. i reassured her, no anal unless she wanted to do it, and she started with the massage. she said many customers say she had red-dot east indian features, which i could see. a nice light brown color, and naturally wavy black hair. a petite, but very guitar shaped figure, and trimmed, but unshaven bush. she only worked on sundays, which fit her school schedule, but this week, she was working a week day schedule, because the mp was shorthanded. she lived with her mormon (!) momma and her cover story was that she was working part time providing in-house nursing care.

she talked throughout the massage and seemed to hit it off. she wanted to make a human connection with me and she was so glad i took her out of the "rotation". some big, fat, smelly guy had come in right when ro opened, took the biggest crib in the back, had stayed there for four hours, and had the staff bring in one provider after another.

after the massage, we started kissing and petting, which seemed to warm her up quite a bit. i was sitting on the massage table and she was standing up, which put us on a even level and allowed for mutual caressing and stroking. her oral skills were quite good, despite the glove, and when we went to mish, she really seemed to lose her self. at first, she wouldn't kiss me on the mouth, but when after a few hundred strokes, she was sucking on my nipples, nibbling on my earlobes, kissing my neck, and finally kissing me on the mouth. very passionate, responsive, and multi-orgasmic once you make her forget you are a client. chicas need loving, too.

what a bargain, at $23. afterwards, she went back to being chatty. i got the impression that the $23 was just the mamasan's cut, and she should have gotten $40 for her. at any rate, she was amenable to meeint me at my hotel after work, after 6pm, providing she could convince her mother she had to stay with the "patient" longer.

i stepped outside, and called karina from miami club, since she said she could meet me on friday afternoon, but she sounded sleepy and promised to call me later. miami club brings in their girls at 7pm, like gt, but where gt releases the girls promptly at 4am, mc stays open until 6am, and then spends an hour working out the accounting details of drink fichas and back room sessions, so the mc girls don't get out until after 715am. so miami club girls tend to be too pooped for an afternoon outcall session.

i decided to go back inside the ro and asked the proprietor if the hot little kuna indian spinner, suri, they had working there back in january had come back. she hadn't, but now ro kept a roster of part-time and freelance girls they would hook you up with for their usual fee. i asked if the proprietor could me hook me up with suri for the next afternoon.

i've learned that chicas are very unreliable, so it is important to have back up plans. that night, when alicia called and told me that relax wanted her to stay until 8pm, and that she couldn't come by that night because her mom expected her home that night. so i called back relax and asked if they could arrange the suri meeting for that night. it took some phone calls, but an hour later, relax told me that she had actually come in.

i took a quick cab ride and got to relax. as i was waiting for suri to come out, a taller chinese gal came out from the back. when suri came out, i asked her who she was. it turns out they were friends, and yes (!) she was a provider. suri knows about my yellow fever and asked if i wanted lili instead, but i got inspired and asked if we could arrange a 3-way.

relax wanted $120 for both for an hour, but would go to 90 minutes for $150. the mamasan pulled aside the curtain to the first crib, the one i had used with alicia that afternoon, but i didn't think a massage table was the proper venue for a three way and told the mamasan i had meant take-out. she wanted more and i said, ok, don't give me the change from the $160 i gave her.

the girls, being freelancers, did not have to come back from to the club, so i hoped, that i could turn it a semi-tln back at the hotel. i thought a nice queen sized bed, with aircon, some nice music, with a private shower would be so much better than the crib in the mp, but it turned out to be a big mistake.

we got a cab, arrived at los arcos. enroute, i found out lili was 25, had come to panama from canton, china, when she was 15. her spanish was flawless, but slightly accented, and spoken with vocal cords that was used to a much more sophisticated tonal language. cupcap tits, but an ass sir-mix-a-lot, would put in one of his rap videos. a latin ass, an asian face, pillow talk in spanish, but with an accent....just think of it as fusion cuisine. she was not hong kong movie star beauty, but she reminded me of a chunkier version of a coed i knew, and the sheer novelty of scoring a real chinese in panama was like finding a burger king in tibet.

as we came in through the side door, the security guard said that he thought that the hotel wouldn't allow 3 in a room. bad omen. we got into the room, and by the time suri and lili had stripped down to their bras and panties, the phone started ringing. it was the owner. the police was only two people to a room, no exceptions. i tried stalling, telling him that the girls where in the shower and they had closed the door. the owner called back five minutes later, and then five minutes later. ( i should have just taken the girls back to relax and done them back there, but i didn't think of it. stupid, stupid me.)

one of the girls had to go into the waiting room outside and wait her turn, and suri immediately volunteered. (looking back, i wish i had insisted that lili waited outside.) lili got a look of slight panic and said "don't leave me", since suri had told her how "grueso" (thick) i was, but suri reassured her i was nice as she got dressed and left.

well, once we got on the bed, and lili answered her phone (bad omen) lili seemed very, very greedy for loving. when i laid down, she started making a hop, skip, and a jump by way of a few kisses and nibbles down my neck, my nips, my tummy, and down to my nuts. i stopped her and started with some foreplay for a few minutes, then, i let her dive down to my nuts. didn't even have to ask her for bbbj, my first of this trip. she agreed with suri that i was "grueso", but she put the female condom inside her and took it like a champ, squealing like all the jav pornstars and saying the usual "hay papi chulo, que rico" latin girls say when you get them to roll their eyes up into their heads and you only see the whites of their eyes.....but it all depended up what position we were doing at the time. some positions made her mewl japanese style, some made her growl latin style.

afterwards, she went outside. i was hoping she would slap suri's outstretched hand, and suri would come into the room like a tag team wresting match partner, but when i showered and stepped outside, suri was slumped in the waiting room couch. seems the little 98lb spinner with the c-cups was hungry. would she do a short time and then let me take them to dinner? no, she was really hungry.

like a chump, i suggested we go out to eat. we cabbed to the beiruit restaurant, ate and watched the belly dancers. the one man band was very loud. they each got a phone call, from another client. when it was over, i was ready to go back to the hotel, but suri and lilli told me they had another date. if i would just give them a quick hour, they would return to my room.

two and half hours later, i got a call from lilli. suri was tired, but she would come back the next evening. yeah, right. i went to sleep, but i consoled myself with the thought that the chatty mormon nursing student would come the next morning at 830am or so, before her 10am shift at relax. alicia had to, she wanted her $40 from my afternoon session, and wanted to work in another $40 session with a client who could actually make her cum a couple of times.

Neither Suri or her friend Li-Li called back, so at about 230am, I called Li-Li. She said that she was tired and wasn't coming over. No surprise, there. Suri was always kinda flaky and she was sending me mixed signals all night long.

I went to bed, and woke up at about 8am to a phone call from Alicia from Relax Oriental. She apologized for running late (!) and asked if it was alright if she came at 830am. (We had arranged the night before for her to come at 8am for possibly two sessions before she reported to ReOr at 10am.

I showered and shaved and ran up the air conditioner. She showed up right up on time. She was very glad to see me, and made herself comfortable. Talkative and friendly, she was even more outgoing than she was the afternoon before. She lives at home with her mom, who asks too many questions for her to work at night. Hence, her usual Sunday afternoon shift with ReOr. Today, she had told her mom that she was working part-time looking after an ederly woman, a patient, in her home, which was plausible, given that she is a nursing student. There was nothing P4P in her demeanor, just really appreciative that she had discovered an "instant boyfriend", when her home life and school schedule doesn't leave her time for one. In fact, when I offered her $40 for the day before, she refused and said we could take care of the money later.

We had lots of good banter while she stripped off her top and jeans. When I asked her to keep going, she had a little mischief in her eyes when she asked if I wanted her to take of her bra and panties. She laid down on the bed and started hugging and kissing. At first, no DFK, but when she warmed up, and I was encouraged and started to work my way to the "Y". She asked if I wanted to, and said "yes" and got to work. Six minutes of tongue work later, she was writhing and moaning loudly, and after she convulsed a final time, she pulled my face up to hers and kissed me deeply. Soon, she put me on her back and took me into her mouth. After a very tender BBBJ, she stopped to put in the femidom, laid on her back and resumed the BJ before asking me to put it in. We did mish, then a couple of other positions, before she got on top and did cowgirl for a bit, which allowed me to appreciate her near perfect, if smallish breasts. Then I asked her to do reverse cowgirl so I could appreciate her perfect "bompies". She was loud when she wasn't sucking on my fingers, or nuzzling my shoulder or hands. We finished spooning, and unlike the afternoon before, where she had to bite on the sheets to keep her noise down, she really let herself go with a moan that ended in a scream.

By the time we got done it was too late for a second session. Even if we did have time, I would have still settled for one session. We talked some more, I gave her $80, and she left. The Golden Times girl had promised me a 3-way with her friend, another Paisa named Juliana, and there was still a chance Suri would live up to her obligation.

I went out for some breakfast, recovered, and waited for the GT girl to call me. Eventually, I called Li-li from the night before. She said she would come, but she followed up with some text messages. When I suggested she could work of the other half of the 3-way I paid for the night before, she called back and insisted it was Suri's debt, not hers. Sensing she was going to back out, I offered her $50, then $55, before she agreed to $60 plus cabfare.

Li-li came by, allowed me to take some limited pictures, and then we got down to business. She was as fun as the night before, but unconvincingly complained about how big I was and how she was a little sore from the night before. Didn't stop her from giving me another BBBJ and a real GFE experience. No rushing, a little bit of giggling, and after a bit, she was emitting that sexy, exotic soundtrack of little Asian yelps and Latin exortations to pound her hard.

This time, we used a polyurethane conventional condom, because I had only brought six femidoms, and I needed to save two for a possible 3-way. Li-li doesn't seem like a pro. She works during the week in her aunt and uncle's businesses, and is still genuinely surprised that she can make some nice extra cash doing P4P freelance. She met Suri a year earlier, with whom she got into the lifestyle six months ago. She left quickly afterwards, since she had to pick up her cousin or nephew from karate class at 430pm.

Two pops today and it wasn't even dinner time. I started thinking about the GT girl, and realized what was bothering me. The idea of her 3-way was tantalizing, but I realized that my two sessions with the GT girl was very GFE....but that was the problem. I had hoped for PSE. Something was missing. I realized what was wrong. I had started out with GT 8 and her Red Bull fueled mattress cyclone performances. After GT 8 returned to Colombia, I settled for GT 27, who was pretty close. The last two visits, I had settled for GT 23, because, like 8 and 27, would give me a BBBJ, but kept coming back because she was so sweet, almost Angeles or Pattaya sweet.

I was leaving the next morning and I didn't want to go without experience the hurricane.....

I was leaving the next morning and I didn't want leave without experiencing the carnal hurricane of a Colombian Mattress Monster. I wasn't able to hook up with Karina from Miami Club, as she never followed through on our Friday night off-campus date, which was a shame because we always hit it off, and she does the best job of keeping our relation on the proper balance between boyfriend and client.

Still bugged by the Suri's bugging out on me last night, I called her and she agreed to come by Los Arcos at 7pm. It was gnawing at me, and if I didn't get satisfaction, I will post her picture so the rest of you can avoid her.

GT 23 hadn't called me, and that was strange, because she wasn't shy about calling me. She was pretty excited about setting up the 3-way, telling me how pretty her girlfriend was during the past couple of days. I had told her I was shipping out for a mid-east tour, and in a twist on all those corny WWII movie cliches, she agreed I couldn't go to war without living out my 3-way fantasy. The only hitch was that the day before, she was saying that an off- campus 3-way would cost more than take in, even if it was completely extra-curricular.

I called her and told her that Los Arcos has a policy of limiting occupancy of their room to two people, and just two people. (Didn't tell her how I found out....I guess I wanted to keep up the budding GF/BF character of our relationship.) Instead, I told her that I would come by GT and just get her and Juliana in a double session in one of the rooms.

It was time to eat, and the sun was falling. I had seen a billboard for KFC and since I rarely get fast food back in CONUS, it gave a hankering for one of their dinner boxes. I went up to Via Espana, and after I went to KFC, I walked up to Relax Oriental. I told Susana the proprietor about how Suri went AWOL on my 3-way the night before. Months before, she had lectured me about how "what appears to be cheap can sometimes cost a lot," in which she argued that street girls and independents are cheaper, but with her club you have certain guarantees and recourse if things go wrong. I paid $160 for Suri and Li-li, she kept $60 for just making a few phone calls, giving the girls $50 each.

She said she would make some calls, and eventually gave me Suri's cell phone, so I could call her myself. She asked me to call after 830pm or so, if Suri did not keep her 7pm appointment. (I would indeed call a couple of times later that night, and the best she would do was promise to try to get Suri's share back from her and send it back to me via Western Union. I'm not holding my breath.)

I called the GT girl and told her I would be coming by the club after 9pm. I tried calling Suri a couple of times, and gave up after 815pm. Taking a cab to the Fantastic Casino, the cabbie, who had spent a lot of time in the states, tried to engage me in a conversation. A former prison guard, he got hurt and returned to his native Panama with his pension. It was a real rainy night and I was glad I had my umbrella, since I got a real soaking before he finally pulled into the Los Arcos parking lot and let me in. He asked why I was going to the Casino Fantastic, and I told him I wasn't a real gambler, but I was meeting some friends. He wondered aloud if I was just going to go to the Miami Club. After spending a moment or two in the casino, that's exactly what I did.

Miami Club was dead, the hour or so of heavy rain and the early hour had left it bereft of customers and half of their dancers. All their dancers where in the back, on the side of the club just outside their dressing rooms. Karina/Perla didn't pop out, and I couldn't really see her in the dark. If I had, I might have decided to take her in the back, despite my desire to keep all our encounters off-campus. I left.

I went to Golden Times. I didn't see 23, as she was upstairs with a client. I sat in the waiting room, and after he ran the parade of girls through, I asked the young guy who was the talent wrangler to sit with me for a moment. I told him I was shipping out and I wanted something special as a going-away experience. He understood, told me life is short and experiences count. I asked about getting two chicas. He said it would be twice the usual fee, $168 for an hour, but some really crazy fees for take out. I countered with $200 for an hour an half. He said I could get everything I wanted to done in an hour.

But then he said, "if you want to a real experience....did you know that GT #8 is back?" He recalled that I had asked for her on my previous visits after I had left, and #8 had returned that week, and that that Saturday night was her first day back at the club. I didn't beleive him at first, but he explained that I probably didn't recognize her because she was using the number 38 that night (she had lost her original number badge and they were having a new one made for her) and she had lightened her hair and was wearing it in a new hairstyle. I had her call 8/38 in, and her face lit up when she saw that I recognized her.

Your reports are quite long but very interesting and plenty of helpful information. Please post girls phones and photos if possible.

Chicas feelings must be respected. As I sat in the waiting room of Golden Times and got re-acquainted with #8/38, I asked her why she didn't say "hi" from the couch as I walked in. She didn't want to be embarrassed in front of the other girls if she did and I didn't remember her. The chicas in a club like that spend almost 60 hours a week sitting and waiting with the other girls without much to do. They are very, very sensitive about "losing face".

With that in mind, I thought about #23. She was expecting me to take her and her friend for a 3-way, and would be disappointed if I didn't, but after eight months without #8, and only a few hours left, I had a change of plans.
Fortunately, #23 was with another client, but I wanted to get #8 into the room before #23 came out.

I had momentarily considered taking #8 and #23 both up to the room, which would have satisfied my hankering for #8, but would have allowed #23 to save face with whichever of the girls she had lined up for the 3-way, but I had already shot 4 loads in the last 36 hours and was running low on ammo. (Ah, if only to return to the 1980's when I could have gone 5 rounds in just five hours.) Besides, whenever you take #8 to bed, it is a three way between you, her, and her insatiable, almost feral lust. I knew I was outnumbered.

#8 and I went upstairs and we took up right where we left off in February. She still had the beautiful body I remembered. Bolt on tits, but a beautiful, natural ass. She had gotten a little leaner, and more tanned since last time, which only accentuated her 38-24-38 figure. We got room #1, which had two massage tables. We pushed them together and when I came out of the shower, I asked to take some photos. When I click the shutter, there is a short delay while its range finder sets the adjustments, so she tended to move and give me a blurry photo. She asked to see the picture, and then proceeded to check the memory for both her old photos from last spring and check out the current crop from this trip. She found one of her pictures, decided she didn't like it any more, and deleted it. (Fortunately, I've got it on disk). She also spotted two pictures of #23, and recognized her as a co-worker.

We got onto the massage tables and got to business. Great kisses, great petting. I DATY on her shaved, sweet smelling pussy and she had great finish. When it came for her to reciprocate, I cursed the GT mirrors. They are too darn small! I had to sit on my haunches and bend down to watch her BBBJ me in the mirror. After a while, she got that certain look in her eye. She wanted to get fucked and she would switch from gentle moans, to low growls, to exhortations to give it to her hard and eventually screams of "dame su leche!" We did mish so I could get into the femidom and we could kiss, but that didn't last long. She put her ankles behind her ears so I could give it to her deep. Then we went to doggie. Eventually, we went to what I call "lazy doggie", which is basically doggie but lying on our sides like spoons. In that position, you can almost see her front in the long, thin mirror running along the wall.

She was making demands for leche, but after two milkshakes that Saturday and two on Friday, the dairy was running dry. She could tell I wasn't her first session of the day. But she was very persuasive and used her skillfull digits until I decorated her tits like a cake.

Aside from my depletion, she had complained a bit about the heat/humidity. It was a very humid night, having rained non-stop for almost two hours. The room got warm and sticky. In its natural state, her hair is jet black, full bodied and wavy, almost curly. You ever hear the expression, "it takes a nation of millions to keep us down"? Well, it takes almost a gallon of chemicals for the salon to put her hair down and turn it thin, brown, and limp. (Why do the most beautiful brunnettes work so hard to be mediocre blondes?)
She hated the humidity because she feared it would make her hair curl up. Frankly, that was about as plausible as throwing water on dead man and expecting him to break dance.

Afterwards, she was eager for an after-work visit that morning before I left for the airport. She promised to call immediately at 4am and be at my room by 415am. I recall when I had first met her, and she was in a similar circumstance. When she first starts a "tour of duty" in Panama, she is very eager for off-campus work. It seems that during the first week or so, she works for the club for free, in order to reimburse the outlay the club puts out for arranging her visa and such.

As she stepped out of the room to get the resupply of linens, she was stopped by #23, who asked #8 if she had taken me upstairs. When #8 had returned to the room and told me this, I was concerned. Uh-oh. #23 will be downstairs and will see me when I leave. Remember what I said about saving face? #23 had probably talked about the proposed 3-way with

I went back to Los Arcos, packed, and checked my cellphone before going to sleep. Still no response from Suri of Relax Oriental, and aside from a few phone calls, I didn't expect anything much from Susan the proprietess.

The next morning, #8 called right at closing time, got directions to Los Arcos and arrived 10 minutes later. It was such a shame that the timing was all wrong. She had arrived the previous wednesday, the same night I did. Her old phone number still worked - I called it and let her hear her own voice on her voice mail message - but she had lost the phone during her previous tour. The number had not been reassigned, but who knew where her phone was? So we had both returned on the same day, but had I not gone by GT the previous evening, the very same night she returned to work at GT, we would have missed each other. She gave me her e-mail address.

The session was a replay of the second, but this time I had the aircon running at full blast. Well, another difference was that every once in a while a stroke would rub her the wrong way and she would fall out of her nympho character and go into discomfort character. (Yet another chica who is convinced I am too "grueso". Did I mention that when I disagreed with LiLi that I was too beaucoup she went to the bathroom, got a toilet paper roll and showed the tube in the middle was too narrow to fit over my tool?)

Her little pangs of discomfort are the only time she "breaks character". I don't know what a GFE experience is with #8. She only provides a PSE experience. Whether it is the "real" her or just a mattress personality, it is very convincing. Her grunts, the sneer she gives you when she comes and her eyes roll into her head, the demands for "more, deeper, and harder" and her pleading for you to come on/with/in her are audio and visual Viagra. She let me take a couple of pictures, but again, she moved and they were blurred.

It was a very intense experience, exactly what I get from her in GT, and since she didn't have to tidy up the linens, she was out of the room by 5am. That was fine with me, as it would let me have a couple of hours of sleep before it was time to head out for the airport.

In summary, it was four nights, eight pops, four girls. Highlights included the sweet bargain of Alicia from Relax Oriental, the unexpected surprise of Li-Li the Chinese, and reuniting with GT#8. I regret not knowing #8 was in town sooner, not hooking up with Karina form Miami Club, and getting ripped off my Suri the Relax Oriental freelancer.

Gentlemen,

This might be a repeat however, it might help someone. 2 days in PTY and it always lives up to big fun standards.

First, do not stay at Riande Continental, not girl friendly. After checking in and bullshitting with the bell boys about some action, the first words out of their mouth were "if you want to bring back girls you cannot! You must take them to another hotel. " I was like. What the hell, I should have RTFF! Anyway, walked around the corner to Habanos and notice they have expanded. This makes this venue much better. Enough space to sit in (ac) or out and the viewing pleasure have increased greatly. I am guessing with the immigration restriction and devaluation of some countries currencies the # of Colombianas has dramatically increased. Asking price $100, but with the volume of girls, all resisted and folded with little negotiation to $80. Below $80 was not an option.

Second, make sure you visit Golden Times. For plain viewing pleasure there can’t be many better places on the planet. I have been to most countries and price to beauty ratio at GT can compete with the world’s best. Hot Latinas, giant fake tits and asses to die for, what else could a man ask for? $94 when you arrive with a taxi, without a taxi its $84 or close to that number. This is a MP type, all girls wear numbers as they parade by in their hot little outfits. I make sure I get a pad and pencil to write the numbers down as it is stimulus overload with all the spice on the menu!

Third, Veneto, Hotel Panama and Miami club house lots of talent. However, I like La Bogedita. It is more of a dive dance club but, the talent level can be outstanding. It is open late and all the girls drink and dance and are normally looking for a place to sleep (IMO). I have seen many girls here from the supposed high end clubs Elite and La palace. This is a final stop for girls who have had some cocktails and are willing to work with you on price.

Finally, make sure you make a little plan that goes something like this, Golden Times around 8 PM. Then to dinner, off to habanos for drinks and a cigar (Brush teeth and gargle). Pull a hottie for another run (wash your balls). Then off to Bogedita for the night time spinner (Oh yah! Pop a Cialis if you use this template). Take care Boyz! Enjoy PTY!

You guys are out of your minds. It real simple Baro Boca Torena sex ten dollars beers a dollar why are you paying loca money to these bimbos have a laugh on them for a change.

Hey Guys,

Been in Panama 3 months and enjoying every minute of it. I am a regular at the Veneto and also have been to Bodeguita a few times. I just have a couple questions:

1. Where is Golden Time? Just want to know so the cab driver doesnt "take me for a ride"

2. Where is Baro Boca Torena? I hear its near the "Fish Market" and that seems a little peligrosa for a gringo to venture to at night.

Gracias,

Viva Panama1

Hey Guys,

Where exactly is Golden Time(so i dont get ripped of by the Taxi)

And where is Baro Boca Torena?(Seems peligroso for a gringo?)

[QUOTE=PaulGore]You guys are out of your minds. It real simple Baro Boca Torena sex ten dollars beers a dollar why are you paying loca moneyos? to these bimbos have a laugh on them for a change.[/QUOTE]Where is Bao Boca Torena? It seems it may be peligrosa for gringos? Also where is Golden Time?

Gracias

[QUOTE=Vivapanama]Where is Bao Boca Torena? It seems it may be peligrosa for gringos? Also where is Golden Time?

Gracias[/QUOTE]

directions are very simple, just dig a little bit back in the forum and you'll find the address(Im kinda lazy atm)

A friend of mine spent halloween evening in Miami with some of his friends, 4 total and they got a bacardi bottle, none were drunk or something.
Long story short, one of my friends was drugged and mugged, all of a sudden they noticed one missing and they found him in the bathroom without wallet.
Next day my friend recalls that he was speaking with some girls at the table where they were drinking, girls went away and next thing he wakes up at his home.

Just a warning about those girls @ club miami

[QUOTE=Vivapanama]Hey Guys,

1. Where is Golden Time? Just want to know so the cab driver doesnt "take me for a ride"

Gracias,

Viva Panama1[/QUOTE]

Ask the taxi driver to take you to the Casino Fantastic. Wait for him to drive away. Then walk up the block to the main (six lane) street towards the McDonalds. Cross that boulevard and smell and look for the three sided strip mall with the Popeyes's chicken. On the same side as the Popeye's restaurant, you will see a couple of guys in front of a store front that says Golden Times. One of them is the security guard. GT is no more than 20 yards from the Popeye's.

It is no more than 150 meters/yards from the Casino's front entrance.

Having the cabbie drop you off at the casino will lower the GT price from $94 to $84.

[QUOTE=Meat Loaf]Fellas, el Calidonia as mentioned before is a very active neighborhood.

Maybe one of the most active within the city. All of the bus routes pass through Calidonia and all three (3) major streets (Via Espana, Balboa, and Via Simon Bolivar) start in Calidonia. Cd. Panama is a rather small city, in my opinion, and is within minutes of los barrios el Dorado, Marbella, Congrejo, and Paitilla via taxi, foot, or bus. (Too far to walk from el Dorado though.)

In Calidonia the street Via Espana becomes Ave. Central and is very active with mercantilism. During the daytime the streets are jam-packed with people shopping and walking. During the night, the street still maintains its energy, but further down in the "walkway. " Lots of good-ass of all varieties can be had on Ave. Central during the day by just walking and talking. Ass of the non-pro and Colombian-pro and Panamanian-pro. (Your typical pro will be from Colombia, but many Panamanian girls sell the cocha.) A few casinos exist on Ave. Central and I have witnessed the Colombia-pros having to present their health card to enter. Frequently, I drink a beer and hit Ave. Central to meet some new canals for my dredging.

El Capitan located on a 45 degree angled street called Ave. Mexico which is 2 blocks from the big blue building (important fact) American Superstore located on Ave. Central towards the bottom at the beginning of the "walkway. " A park exists in front of the American Superstore. 5 a block from the American Superstore toward el Capitan is the Social Security office with a big bus stop in front of it. At the end of the second block are two self-serve car washes. Hit the 45 degree angled street and walk. 5 block. This block looks poor and has 2 hipodromo bars, 4 more bars, a used tire shop, a Chinese bodega, and a big vacant lot. Again, it looks poor.

El Capitan is great for those that like "Chocolate Lovin’! " The majority of the customers are of African-ancestory. Hours of operation are 10 a. M. Until late-close. Lots of chocolate Panamanians from the rough-and-tumble neighborhoods of Chorrillo, Ancon, Curundu, and Santa Ana sell ass at this location. Rates have been quoted of $40, but they most certainly will take less. No rooms are available, so a acquiring your own hotel in Calidonia or Bella Vista or where ever will be needed. Beginning at 7 p. M. The DJ plays Salsa and it becomes a nightclub. The place has about 20 or more girls sitting around beginning at about 5p. M. This is no frills nor does it have much ambiance, but has lots of nice Chocolate ass. Beers range from $0. 60 to $1 and for a lady they cost $2. Lots of older gentlemen frequent this local. The girls are fuck action.

Within walking distance on Ave. Central, the walkway, is Calle K. Lots of hookers! Street Walkers. Strippers. Frelancers. Everything. On Calle K are about 5 bars, with Las Vegas having strippers upstairs and porno downstairs. No rooms exist. The strippers are hungry, but lazy. Shouldn’t cost more than $25 – 40 for outside sex. Hours are daytime for beer and porno with strippers hitting the stage at 6 p. M. Pitchers of beer cost $4.

Bar Nicks on the corner of Ave. Central and Calle K has freelancers working day and night. Beer is $0. 80.

Bar La Panamerica has full-time hookers and porno all day and night. Beer is $0. 80. This place is located at the end of the aforementioned block on Calle K.

Bar Hawaii is located across the street from Bar la Panamerica and has freelancers and porno all day and night. Beer is $0. 80.

Calle K has every variety of prostitutes available and around the corner is a 24-hour hotel with SWs in front. The police are present at all times of day at the beginning of this block. Never should you pay over $40 for any ass within this sector and $25 is more realistic.

El Calidonia has about 5 casinos and pros working there. I’ve been quoted the ridiculous price of $100, but they knew better. Lots of hotels are around for $25 per night. You can score some Colombian ass within these hotels for under $60.

*** All of the above locations that play porno almost exclusively play anal movies, so the girls may be more willing to give you some third eye. ***

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Hello
I am about to do my "homework" for my sexvacation in Panama soon,
can someone confirm that i have found "the right" Calle K that Meat Loaf is talking about above.
see the Google Earth map ,its in the middle
Thanks
Buttlover

[QUOTE=ButtLover]...can someone confirm that i have found "the right" Calle K that Meat Loaf is talking about above.[/QUOTE]

You're way off. I can't attest to the exact location of Calle K (though it's seen in this image), but the Caledonia area is on the south side of the city. Look for the main bridge crossing the canal near the Pacific Ocean, as well as the long strip of land (the causeway) at the southeast entry of the canal.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]You're way off. I can't attest to the exact location of Calle K (though it's seen in this image), but the Caledonia area is on the south side of the city. Look for the main bridge crossing the canal near the Pacific Ocean, as well as the long strip of land (the causeway) at the southeast entry of the canal.[/QUOTE]

Hi
I found it
Thank you for your help !
BL

Hi
Take a look at this link
[url]http://panamababes.com/[/url]

You can find lots of adresses to brothels and clubs in Panama

/BL

For anyone that plans his first visit to Cd. Panama I would suggest in my view to drop the idea of going to Calle K, fish market and other shitholes.

Last James Bond movie was filmed there, so take a look. Just stick to Veneto, Oasis, La Bodeguita, Habanos etc.

While on an upcoming trip to Panama City I want to check out some budget action & by looking thru reports I have come up with the names La Mayor, La Gavilan, Casco Viejo, & Bocatorena. Are all these basically the same place?

Are La Gavilan & La Mayor clubs in the Casco Viejo part of town? What is Bacatorena? Please enlighten a newbie to PTY as to what are the correct names of where I'm going so I know what in the heck to tell the cab driver when I want to go there.

Thanks for your help.

Hello folks,

I went down to Panama for 5 days and here is my report:

Stayed mostly in the Panama city area and did my mongering there.

I was staying at the Pension Monaco. $25 a night, girl friendly, but very bare. Not a fancy hotel at all, a lot of people who go there are couples doing their business. The price was right and many places were completely booked. The place is located in Ave Cuba which is not a necessarily nice area but it was easy to find taxis and move around.

First night I was partying with friends and got a bit wasted. Got into a taxi around 3-4am and asked him where I could find girls at that hours. He told me 'el mercado' (the market) was the only place open. El mercado is sort of a bar in Casco Viejo (not the best area) where you go and there are a bunch of girls standing around and talking to the guys. You talk to a girl if you're interested, go to the back of the place where they have something resembling rooms (old mattresses and a faucet) where you pay $30 for 30 minutes. The girls range from about 2-8 maybe. The taxi driver came in with me and actually called over the girl I wanted. Colombian, black, about a 6-7.

I was semi drunk so it was hard finishing the act. Still, had a good connection with the girl (I'm a fluent Spanish speaker) and she decided to come back with me to my hotel. The girl stayed the whole night and we had sex twice. She gave me her number and we decided to meet up the next night.

2nd night. She seemed to be sincerely interested in me. Took her to dinner the next night, we were chatting, etc. Eventually took her back to the hotel, sex twice. Gave her a $60 tip on her way out.

3rd night. Decided to try the Hawaii Parlor as I noticed it was only two blocks away from my place. Walked in, about 6 girls sitting there. Asked the lady how it worked. She said it was $60 and I picked any of the girls. They accepted credit cards which to me was a bonus. Picked a great looking Colombian (about a 7 - kinda looked like Shakira) as she looked like a very nice girl. Had a great connection with her. Gave me her number and decided to meet up the next day.

4th day: took the girl to dinner and a movie, had fun. She had to go back to work and I was tired. As I went back to the hotel I was talking to a taxi driver about meeting girls. He told me he had the hookups so we decided he would take me mongering that night. I wanted to shower before going out. Showered, called the guy and as I'm waiting outside for him I see this girl on the other corner. Previously I had had girls on that corner talk to me but I was always on the move. Decided to talk to this girl, she was 19 and asked for $20. I couldn't pass up on it. She was a dark girl, about a 6. Asked the taxi to give me half an hour. My hotel was across the street so it didn't take long. Met up with the taxi and went mongering.

First we went to Golden Times. The guy said it was his favorite, obviously they knew him there. This place had really amazing girls if you have the $. It's a very nice and clean place. You walk in, they sit you in a room full of leather chairs (usually there will be other guys there too), and then they call the girls to parade in front of you. Each girl has a number attached to her skirt or dress. After they leave you tell the guy which girl you're interested and he calls her over. You chat with her, the guy brings you a beer or whatever, and if you're interested it's $94 for the hour (only one pop). I saw this gorgeous Colombian about a 9, it was her first day working there. I decided I wasn't feeling like paying that much and as it was my last night there I wanted to shop around.

Taxi guy then took me to some new place called the High Horse or something but it was closed. Then we went to Miami club. This place is sort of a strip club but not really. The girls are all wearing lingerie and they sit around and talk to the customers. You order drinks, etc. Some girls will dance sometimes, but they're really not good at it. The main point is choosing a girl for the hour or night. The price was $95 but the girls there did not come close to the ones at Golden Times. Most girls were fake blondes with fake boobs. Also, it was Dia de los Muertos on Sunday (day of the dead) so out of respect the place was closing at midnight. Had to leave but wasn't that interested.

Asked the driver to take me to Oasis but when we got there it was also closing up. Then went to one place he knew about, owned by a dominican lady. When we got there, there were only 3 girls, not that amazing and also $95. Said no thank you and left.

Decided what the hell, my last night so went back to Golden Times.Remembered that they said they would be open till 4am. Picked the girl I had a chat with and went upstairs.

What I didn't like about the room was that it was set up as a massage room (so tall massage table) instead of a bed (as in Hawaii). The girl was a pro but only one pop.... Overall you can't beat the quality of the girls there but wasn't 100% convinced.

Went back to my hotel and my Colombian called around 3am after she got off of work. Came over to my hotel and I kid you not we had the most amazing sex, total gfe. She was really into it, and it's up there with the best sex I've ever had. She didn't want money for it, just cab fare as she had no cash. I've been keeping in contact and hope to see her again soon.

So my take on Panama:

Mongering is alive and well. Great looking girls (90% Colombian - *see Colombian as in the country not Columbian as in Washington DC...), decent prices compared to the US. For me the bonus was that if you speak Spanish and are a decent dude you can probably get much more out of it. I was able to really connect with the girls and they were willing to pamper me. I would say that the last one really liked me and had it been a different situation it could lead to something else. The girl from Golden Times also said it would have been nice to hang out but I was leaving the next day. Knowing Spanish really goes a long way but if not, get some good cab drivers to help. Everyone there was helpful.

Well, hope this report helped a bit.

Oh and PS: in places like Miami and Golden Times you can take the girls back to your room or rent them for the night. It was around $150 for them to go back to your room. And I think from $300-500 for the whole evening.

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I was wondering if anyone knows of any place that might be serving traditional American Turkey Day dinner in Panama City this Thanksgiving, al la the New York Bar in San Jose? Maybe an American owned restaurant?
Also, what are the better places to watch American football?

I can't be sure turkey is on the menu, but there is a sports bar in the Dorado section (not far from Goldentimes) in which you would think you are in the states. It's called "Bolas" I've eaten there, the burgers and steaks are good. And they have many tv's. I'm not sure of the street, I remember it wa close to Bingo casino. Or something.

Also, the Veneto is good to watch football with several tv's in the bar, typical casino appetozers.

Bennigans on ave Balboa has tv's with football too, lots of normal Panamanians eating and drinking. Food is ok.

I am not sure about the Turkey dinner, but you can definitely go to Hooters to watch football; I know I did. They have a lots of big screens and you can't do better on the eye candy :D.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd]I was wondering if anyone knows of any place that might be serving traditional American Turkey Day dinner in Panama City this Thanksgiving, al la the New York Bar in San Jose? Maybe an American owned restaurant?
Also, what are the better places to watch American football?[/QUOTE]

In my opinion the best place to watch football is the sportsbook upstairs from the Royal Casino in the Marriott hotel.

There is another good place right across the street called Supersports or something.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1]I am not sure about the Turkey dinner, but you can definitely go to Hooters to watch football; I know I did. They have a lots of big screens and you can't do better on the eye candy :D.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the input - leave for PTY tomorrow! Woooo-Hoo!

They also have free WiFi. Just bring your laptop.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd]Thanks for the input - leave for PTY tomorrow! Woooo-Hoo![/QUOTE]

well the eyecandy isnt that great in hooters, actually is much better in benigans. Another good spot to watch football and other sports is Turf, a betting/bar setup with whatever sport from any area in the world that you can think

Can't anyone help me regarding post #2293, the Bocatorena / Casco Viejo / La Mayor etc. area of Panama City?

Bennigan's on Ave Balboa is advertising a $10.95 T-giving special. And the eye candy there can be quite spectacular, between the waitresses and the clientele.

The talent at Hooters here is far better than your average surburban franchise in the US, and some posters here said they hooked up with some waitresses.

If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick Bennigan's: better TVs, better food, usually better service.

Well gents, I went down to Panama again for a few days and did some more exploring.

Here’s my report:

1st night out:

I was staying again in the Ave Cuba area and picked up a street girl to start off the night. You’ll see these girls standing in front of the ‘Pensiones’ (24hr motels where people go to do their business). The girls are in my experience from Panama and charge $20 for the hour. Also, make sure to bring your rubber as they never have any – but in any case the ‘pensiones’ usually sell them at their front desk. The girl I brought back was about a 6 but nothing spectacular in bed. That has also been my experience with the street girls.

A bit later jumped in a cab and asked cab driver to take me to La Mayor after reading about it here. La Mayor as has been reported is in the Casco Viejo area. I recognized the area as I had been here on my previous trip. The area around La Mayor also houses Boca Toreña and you’ll see girls in front of the places as well as food vendors, etc.

Went into La Mayor, paid a $3 entrance fee that gets you one beer or drink, also had to pay for my cab driver. It was pretty packed but I managed to grab a table in a couple of minutes. The girls will be standing or sitting around and the men have to approach them. Some of them will be sitting with their customers, ordering drinks, etc. Also, there’s a stage where the women will be stripping with varying levels of talent at doing this.

Decided to talk to this hot petite Colombian; we spoke for a while and I got her a drink. I asked her how much it was to go upstairs. The fee is $15 for regular rooms, $25 for the ‘suites’, and $35 for foreigners. My mistake was telling her where I was from as she thought I was from Panama. She proceeds to tell me she doesn’t go upstairs with anyone; she only does this for men who have bought her a certain amount of drinks. I wasn’t feeling that so I told her to call over another hot Colombian who I had been eying for a while. Ruby came over, a very dark and voluptuous girl – and she was fine with getting down to it. Went upstairs, paid the $35 (for 25 minutes), and walked to the room. The rooms are very bare (one might even say dirty). There’s a bathroom that doesn’t seem like it’s cleaned that often and a bed that has also seen much better days. If you can’t deal with the low end room/place then La Mayor isn’t for you.

Ruby was great even though I had had a pop previously at my hotel with my Colombian. Amazing ass. She grinded on me like it was a porn video or something. Very satisfying. Gave me her number but I wasn’t able to meet up with her as I spent the day times with my Colombian and Ruby worked every night.

Overall, La Mayor was a pretty good place for inexpensive action. I would say there were around 20-25 girls there and they ranged from 2s to 7s.

The cab driver told me next time he would take me to a place called El Capri in the Rio Abajo area.


2nd night out:

Called a cab driver who had been very helpful taking me on a mongering expedition during my first trip to Panama. Told him I wanted to check out Capri. On our way there he told me that the ‘Rio Abajo’ area has several low end places.

‘Capri’ had a $3 cover charge (not going towards drinks though). The beers were a bit pricier than usual and even though there was a stage, the girls weren’t dancing. All the girls were wearing different blue outfits. If you wanted to take a girl to a room the going rate was $15 for 15 minutes (for Panamanians though). Didn’t stick around to explore more. There were about 20 or so girls that ranged from 5-7s.

Next, the cabbie drove the to a place called ‘La Gruta Azul’ – also in the Rio Abajo area. This place was smaller. Also with a stage but no show. The beers were cheap and it had a $2 entrance fee.

There were only around 8-12 girls that ranged from 4-7. Didn’t see anything interesting so left.

Ended up at ‘La Gloria’ – a place the cabbie spoke highly about. At first instance, it looks like it’s the one at the lowest end of the spectrum. No entrance fee. About 12 girls ranging from 3-7. Quite a few older girls. Beers are cheap and the set up is very basic. Just a few tables and chairs here and there. The girls sit towards the back. I did like that there was a jukebox with a great assortment of Latino music.

Had my eye on a Colombian with a Double D rack and great dark caramel skin. Talked to her for a bit and decided to do the deed. The going rate is $15 for Panamanians for 12 minutes but it turned out to be $45 for 30 minutes for foreigners. The bartender heard my non Panamanian accent when ordering a beer and that gave me away, plus the coming in with a taxi driver. Not sure if they ask for your ‘cedula’ (ID) if they think you’re from there. Anyway, this girl had an amazing mouth. Sucked me for a good 20 minutes and then decided to get to the main course. Best cbj ever.

At this point my Colombian girl called and had to go back to the hotel. Paid the cabbie $20 for the night of taking me around (about 3 hours or so) and hanging around.

3rd night:

Another street girl to start off, more or less the same experience.

Went to ‘La Gloria’ again as I couldn’t forget the girl with the golden mouth. Talked for a while and went to the room. Another great suck + deed. Got her number and info for future trips to Colombia.

About the rooms: they’re quite comfortable considering the place they’re in as the girls actually live in these rooms. They take good care of them.

After ‘La Gloria’ decided to go to ‘La Gruta Azul’ again. Felt that I was in for something better. I thought I would just drink and watch for a while as I just had a pop about 15 minutes before. That wasn’t to be. As I got my drink and walked, this cute petite Colombian girl with fake boobs grabbed me. She was about a 7 and I liked her aggressiveness. She was chatting with he friend and told me they did excellent team play. The rate (again for Panamanians) was $15 for 20 minutes so I thought it was a bargain. Unfortunately, while the girl thought I was Panamanian – the cashier asked for my cedula (ID) so I had to pony up that I wasn’t from Panama. Then the rate increased to $42. Still I was intrigued with the other girl who was about an 8 and the team play.

In this place you also get nicer rooms as the girls live in them. They’re much larger than the ones in La Gloria. The girls started by stripping and dancing a bit and then got down to business. The petite one was a freak! She was all over me like she hadn’t gotten laid in years. Unfortunately her boob job was quite cheap so I paid more attention to the other Colombian girl. It was a pretty good session overall. The petite one was a freak throughout though, at a certain point while the one with real breast rode me – the petite one started riding, get this, my big toe…. She was at first grinding on my leg and then started riding my toe. Overall good experience but don’t think I would frequent the place much after that due to price, time, and not much of a selection. I must say that the second time I went there were a few 8s in the crowd.

I thought I would be done after 2 pops but it was still early and it was my last night in Panama. The cabbie asked me if I had another one in me and I told him that at least I would try.

Told him to take me to the Boca Toreña in the Casco Viejo area. On our way we stopped at an ATM near the Midnight Club. I didn’t go in but could see from outside it was a pretty decent place. It advertised a $25 all night open bar and it also included one table dance. Cabbie told me it was pretty expensive in terms of girls.

Continued to the Casco Viejo area and first went into a place called La Atlantida. Very dirty place, only about 5-6 girls from what I could see. The place smelled bad and it was tiny in the upstairs area where the girls danced. Not much talent but it’s there. I assume it’s the same $15 price for Panamanians. Didn’t stick around for long.

Ended up at Boca Toreña which is right next to La Mayor. Much to my surprise as I walked in I recognized it from my first trip to Panama. I thought it was called El Mercado because that’s what the guy told me when he brought me there but he was referencing that area of Casco Viejo, not the place itself.

So this place is pretty interesting for mongering. It’s pretty big in terms of space. It’s also dark and has two bar areas. You’ll see everything from 3s-8s. Beers are cheap and it can get packed. The good thing is in my experience girls are friendly and plentiful. Around 40 girls when I was there (around 1am). The first time I went it was much later (around 4am) and there were still around 20 girls. A girl there told me they’re open 24 hours.

Was interested in various girls but before I was done going through my options this good looking Nicaraguan approached me. Said I was cute, etc. I had never had a Nicaraguan and I liked her attitude. She was a fake blonde and I don’t go for blondes but she was pretty cute – around a 7. My plan was to go in and try out with her and then hopefully stick around for another one.

So I’m not entirely sure how this place works in terms of $. The first time I was here I paid $30 for 30 minutes to the guy at the front desk of the ‘rooms’. This time the girl paid $8 for 2 time slots in the room (30 minutes) and we agreed I would give her $20 for her services. The girl was very sensual and active which I liked. Great oral and mish. I decided I wanted a bj to finish. As I was nearing completion she took the condom off and let me finish in her mouth. She said this wasn’t a usual thing but I was foreign and cute.

Got her number for a future trip to Nicaragua.

About the rooms: the rooms are very bare – one might even say dirty. It’s not even a proper room as the walls don’t go up all the way to the ceiling so sometimes you can hear people in the room next to you if they’re loud. The room has a very simple and much used ‘bed’ that is quite hard and then a sink and a mirror, period. It gets the trick done. I couldn’t bring the Nicaraguan back to my place as my Colombian would be coming soon but the girls will often go with you to your hotel if you look decent and won’t ask for much. The Colombian girl from my first time came back for the entire night and just told me to tip her whatever I could so I gave her $60 for multiple rounds.


Some other tidbits (and I’m repeating some stuff from previous posts). The info is that you can pick up girls at various places across the city. The mongering is very easy and plentiful. You can go to ‘La Bodeguita’ which is a bar in the Calle Uruguay (main club area) where most pros and non-pros go to get some clients for the night.

Also the Veneto casino, but girls tend to ask for more $$ as it’s full of Gringos.

Oasis and Miami are a bit more upscale with a different clientele. Would recommend going to check them out. And as everyone else has mentioned before, Golden Times most definitely is the holy grail of good looking working girls. Ridiculous amounts of 10s.

In my opinion the greatest assets you can have are a trusty cab driver and a desire to explore. Most cab drivers know all these places as they frequent them themselves.

Well, happy hunting!

~Lost

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Lost, Great reports, thanks for taking the time to write them!

Note: I'm going to try to break my report into 3 or 4 edible chunks, so I can look over each part in Word before posting. Otherwise, I'll be kicking myself over the grammar, plus I want to be able to add some pics.

First off. Thanks to all the people who paved the way by posting great reports about where to go.

Day 1 – Tuesday (El Cangrejo)

So, I decided to escape the frozen land of the United Sex-Prison of America to Panama, having only found the airfare the night before, and having planned the trip so quickly, that I was already on the plane before I could get a reply to the questions I posted. I landed safely at Tocumen late in the afternoon, and took a taxi into Cangrejo to try to get a room at Milan. (Tip: The Panamanian cab driver is the most aggressive being on earth. You take your life in your hands every time you go more than a block.) As Milan was full, I decided to walk around the corner, and finally got a room for $60 a night at Marbella, as I didn't want to deal with Calidonia just yet.

I went to Veneto, and started talking to "Linda" from Columbia. Things were going well, we had gotten all of the way out of the hotel, and almost onto the back street, when the sky opened up. Went back in the Casino, and it was a savvy move as it saved me some cash. When we went back in we started talking price. She quoted $120 for one shot, and instead of trying to negotiate with her, I just thanked her for her time and walked off, deciding to NEVER deal with Veneto again. I'm sorry, but if you're going to ask for a price that's 150% of what they're asking at Golden Times, you better look like Eva Mendez. And honestly at that price, I'm not even going to try and deal with your bullshit.

Followed the instructions of the board, and went to River Club, but there weren't any girls available. There's another "massage parlor" on the opposite side of the same plaza, I think it was called Oriental. (Tip: If you stand at the front door of River and do an about face, it'll be in the walkway directly in front of you.) At Oriental? I paid the fee of $63 and got "Daniella" who promptly said that her real name was Isabel. Black hair, I didn't ask her nationality, but she appears to be probably Panamanian, with medium toned skin. A bit of a pooch, which wasn't great, but she was in total about a 6. 5 on the looks scale, and better than what I would get for triple the price in Birmingham. She did give good service, and gave me her cellphone number, and a recommendation of a more girl friendly hotel. She also said her 24th birthday was tomorrow, which meant that I would definitely not be calling her phone as I have no intention of paying for her regalo.

Directions to River/Oriental: Leave Veneto, turn right. Go to the McDonald's, turn left. Go to Via Argentina (long 3 blocks), turn left. Go behind Rodeo restaurant on the right. They're in the little strip mall there.

TL; DR Notes (Too Long/Didn't Read):

Milan booked. Marbella $60/night. Colombians in Veneto are crazy expensive. River full at 8PM. Oriental had one available. $63 for full servive. 6. 5/10. Didn't repeat at Veneto, River, or Oriental.

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Wednesday (Casco Viejo)

So, Wednesday I changed location to Pension Monaco. It's basically a love motel, at the corner of Avenida Cuba and Calle 29 Este in the Calidonia neighborhood, about 3 blocks from the Balboa Av. Seawall. It's cleaner than I expected, although the shower head was just a big faucet and not an actual head, but for clean, near action, and only $25 a night, I'm definitely not going to complain. There's a passable Italian restaurant on Calle 29 (away from the seawall), and after lunch and a little exploration of the neighborhood, I decided to hit up La Mayor. La Mayor is on the last piece of land near Calle Alvaro and Calle 13. If driving/walking from Cangrejo/Calidonia: Go down Balboa until you get to the fish market. Go left, follow that street to the end, where you'll see a small park. La Mayor, Bocatorena, and Interiorana are all across from the park. (see attached pictures.)

It's a $2 entrance fee to La Mayor when I went Wednesday day shift, and comes with a Budweiser. They somehow have a deal with them so they only sell Bud and Panama draft, I think. All beers after your first beer cost $1, and ladies drinks cost $4. After about an hour waiting for girls to approach me (I guess I've been to too many American strip clubs), I got the attention of "Leslie" on my way back from the bathroom. Leslie's Colombian, supposedly from Cali, and is very dark. Darker than me actually, which is surprising, as I'm African-American, and was mistaken for a native at least 2-3 times a day. If you like your women dark though, she's a great bargain choice. C/D cup tits, a ridiculously great round ass, nice face as well. A solid 8 in my book. So I bought her a beer, to see her reaction, and the trip to the room was confirmed after some groping. I acted like I had been there a bunch of times before, went upstairs with Leslie and handed the woman at a window halfway up the stairs $30 for 30 minutes. The room was nothing special, we've all seen rooms like it before. "Leslie" then proceeded to work me over. CBJ, then forward and reverse cowgirl, and something that probably looked like a bastard lotus position. Also some kissing, which I now think might not have been such a good idea in retrospect, but I was probably her first customer of the day.

Looks: 8. 5 Service: 9/10 Value: 10/10. She could probably command ten times what I gave her in the States, and get it easily.

Went next door to Bodeguita/Interiorana. They actually have a door in the back of the clubs which lets you go from one side to the other. A lot dirtier than La Mayor, as I actually saw roaches at Interiorana (the one with the red lighting). I sat in Bodeguita for a while looking at the talent, and wondering what the deal was as I hadn't got a good report on it from the board. The deal is, you take a girl (the hotter ones are normally in the back, near the door upstairs and the slots). You then go upstairs, and pay $4 to the house for a flophouse room for 12 minutes. You then give the girl $6 to use her for those 12 minutes.

I have a hard time using the bathroom in twelve minutes, much less getting off my second shot of the day. Needless to say I left unsatisfied. I don't remember much about the girl except that she was lightskinned, and she wanted five extra to touch her giant tits. Sorry, too many dollar Atlases.

Went back to La Mayor, and eventually hooked up with a Dominican (can't remember name). She wasn't nearly as hot as Leslie, but I almost never double back for the same girl twice. She did an admirable job in the bed, though and got me off within the allotted thirty minutes.

Pictures:

(1)The front of La Mayor. If you look to the far left you can see the start of Bodeguita.

(2)La Bodeguita, Interiorana, and one of their girls as taken from across the street.

Friday – La Mayor

I'm going to go out of order and keep the La Mayor sections together, and put Thursday in it's own post as it's to a different part of town. As Friday was my designated tourist day, after tramping across Casco Viejo, I ended up at La Mayor again. Picked "Lisa" a thirty-something Medellin native (I have a thing for women slightly older than me, if they look good), and took her to the room. Honestly she looked a bit worse than advertised, with obvious stretch marks from having kids, but countered with a great session, almost as good as Thursday's with a longer, better blow job than any I had gotten previously at La Mayor, and cowgirl, missionary, doggy, and side-straddle. Finished about a minute before the phone rings as your time warning. I went back to Monaco sated and went to sleep pondering how the hell was I going to get another trip to Latin America together.

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[QUOTE=Rey]Wednesday (Casco Viejo)


I'm African-American, and was mistaken for a native at least 2-3 times a day. If you like your women dark though, she's a great bargain choice.

[/QUOTE]

I am and I do, so I will try these places out with a local I know. This is def a seedy area. Looks like old Panama..which will soon be torn down anyway when the gentrification takes firm hold.

Just returned from a weeks stay in PTY. Stayed at Tower House Suites. Very nice hotel, guest friendly, large rooms, all the ammenities $57. Within 2-3 blocks walk are La Palace, Elite II and Hooters. The hotel's night time runner will even get you a Columbian girl for $80. Even walked to the casinos(during the day) about a 10 minute walk.

At the Vaneto Casino, some very fine talent to be found. Hooked up with a 26 y.o. Columbian, Sophia was her name, all of 100 lbs, tight body, nice fake tits. Her charge: $100, but it was 3 am, so not sure if she was discounting or not.

Can't beat the beer prices in the casino, $1.70, free if you're gambling!

All in all, glad I went, but IMHO, Costa Rica is a better time.

Does anyone know if the Veneto has free WiFi around their hotel?

What about some of the other major hotels?

Thursday: Golden Time

So on Thursday, I went to Casino Fantastic, and wasted the holiday gambling at the sportsbook, while waiting on Golden Time to open. Unlike most places in town, they don't open until 7:00 PM, mainly because they know that they don't have to be open all day to get their customers. And for a monger's first trip to a foreign country (not counting border cities in Mexico), it was everything I expected. They say Panama's not even a great country to go to, so I can only imagine what I've been missing.

You go in, pay the man $84 (why the emphasis on odd numbers? Why not just $80? ). You're then escorted to a small waiting room, while the girls get organized. You're then treated to a parade of god-moded, ridiculously hot Colombians. Honestly, by the end of the line-up, I couldn't even remember the beginning of the line-up. I picked "Salome", a smaller, natural looking girl who was one of the few to smile at me, and give me the impression that it would be less mechanical. Discretion is the better part of valor, but I was duly impressed by her skills in the room.

On the way back, I noticed a bunch of girls working in the street, basically everywhere on Avenida Cuba and Avenida Peru from the mid-30's down to around the Covadonga area at calle 29. I wan't motivated enough to break through the language difficulties and try to get a girl, so after listening to the bars and clubs, (someone had a great brass band going that night), I called it a night.

Pics:

1) Golden Time from the outside (it's in the plaza as Popeye's on the same side)
2) Salome from the neck down.

[QUOTE=Rey]Thursday: Golden Time

You go in, pay the man $84 (why the emphasis on odd numbers? Why not just $80? ).

[/QUOTE]

I understand that it's because as an upstanding panamanian business, they charge the standard 5% sales tax.

Hence, a service of $80 results in $84.00.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]I understand that it's because as an upstanding panamanian business, they charge the standard 5% sales tax.

Hence, a service of $80 results in $84.00.[/QUOTE]Makes perfect sense. I'm so used to everything being illegal and under the table that the idea of a massage parlor/brother paying sales tax is almost unfathomable. That would explain the $63 charge at River and Oriental.

[QUOTE=Rey]So on Thursday, I went to Casino Fantastic, and wasted the holiday gambling at the sportsbook, while waiting on Golden Time to open. Unlike most places in town, they don't open until 7:00 PM, mainly because they know that they don't have to be open all day to get their customers. And for a monger's first trip to a foreign country (not counting border cities in Mexico), it was everything I expected. They say Panama's not even a great country to go to, so I can only imagine what I've been missing.[/QUOTE]

I think your last sentence is way off the mark. GT is my favorite cathouse, anywhere, and I've mongered in a lot of places. It sure beats the border MP's and hooker bars anyway, huh? (Like you I started out visiting Juarez, Ciudad Acuna, etc., and my first trip to Cartagena Colombia was an eye opener)

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I think your last sentence is way off the mark. GT is my favorite cathouse, anywhere, and I've mongered in a lot of places. It sure beats the border MP's and hooker bars anyway, huh? (Like you I started out visiting Juarez, Ciudad Acuna, etc., and my first trip to Cartagena Colombia was an eye opener)[/QUOTE]I probably should have phrased that a lot better. The intent of that statement was to say that Panama isn't normally regarded as a place to monger, not that the quality of the women to be had in Panama is lesser than anywhere else in the area. Within the Caribbean/Central America area, a lot more attention gets paid to Costa Rica, the D. R. , and some of the islands like Curacao and others.

Either way, it's a lot more fun than Nuevo Laredo now a days, and certainly better and more cost effective than Atlanta.

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]Does anyone know if the Veneto has free WiFi around their hotel?

What about some of the other major hotels?[/QUOTE]No the Veneto does not have free Wi Fi but there are numerous cheap internet places closeby. The one that I went to is right across the street.

I've been to SJO 3 times but just now I'm considering Panama City. The Colombiana's at the Blue Marlin are all business and expensive. Are they just the same in PC? I just got back from Cartagena and loved it. Any clubs in PC like LDV?

I'm going to start reading this forum tonight but would appreciate any comments and comparisons.

Many thanks,

Hoser

[QUOTE=Rey]I probably should have phrased that a lot better. The intent of that statement was to say that Panama isn't normally regarded as a place to monger, not that the quality of the women to be had in Panama is lesser than anywhere else in the area. Within the Caribbean/Central America area, a lot more attention gets paid to Costa Rica, the D. R. , and some of the islands like Curacao and others.

Either way, it's a lot more fun than Nuevo Laredo now a days, and certainly better and more cost effective than Atlanta.[/QUOTE]But Panama has things other places dont:

1) Le Palace strip club
2) Clean tapwater
3) Low crime
4) U.S. money at par
5) Low tourist trap factor

Try finding all those in any other Latin American country, I bet you cant

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]But Panama has things other places dont:

1) Le Palace strip club
2) Clean tapwater
3) Low crime
4) U.S. money at par
5) Low tourist trap factor

Try finding all those in any other Latin American country, I bet you cant[/QUOTE]2) I'll still drink the bottled water even though it probably isn't any cleaner.

3)I like low crime which is always a big concern when picking a latin american destination.

4)Usually you can do better paying in the countries currencies expecially with Ticas in CR and with the Colombiana's in Colombia.

5)Cartagena had 10 touts a minute trying to sell me something which I can't stand. It's really the only thing that bothered me about CTG.

1)Le Palace strip club? Now you've got my interest. Please tell me more!

Thanks,

Hoser

[QUOTE=Hoser352]I've been to SJO 3 times but just now I'm considering Panama City. The Colombiana's at the Blue Marlin are all business and expensive. Are they just the same in PC? I just got back from Cartagena and loved it. Any clubs in PC like LDV?

I'm going to start reading this forum tonight but would appreciate any comments and comparisons.

Many thanks,

Hoser[/QUOTE]

The main freelancer clubs, like LDV, are La Bodeguita, Habano's, and the Veneto Casino. La Bodeguita might come closest to LDV, but there's live music, it's a lot more crowded, and some people aren't there for PFP. Habanos is a laid back cigar bar. The Veneto is a like an upscale Blue Marlin, only it's not as dominated by *****s -- majority of the people actually go there to gamble -- there's not nearly the selection you'll find in the Del Rey, and it's not a good daytime option.

In terms of GFE and finding a freelancer to move in with you for several days, I'd rate PTY about midway between SJO and CTG. There are more Colombian women looking for the long term score (i.e., Western Union or even marriage) in Panama than San Jose. This is a gross generalization, but I've gotten more of the San Jose experience in the massage parlors, Golden Time and the Veneto Casino, and more GFE in Habano's, La Bodeguita, and the high-end strip bars. I've had good experiences at the casinos at El Panama and the Riande Continetal too, although the last couple of times I was in Panama there wasn't much action there.

[QUOTE=Hoser352]2) I'll still drink the bottled water even though it probably isn't any cleaner.

3)I like low crime which is always a big concern when picking a latin american destination.

4)Usually you can do better paying in the countries currencies expecially with Ticas in CR and with the Colombiana's in Colombia.

5)Cartagena had 10 touts a minute trying to sell me something which I can't stand. It's really the only thing that bothered me about CTG.

1)Le Palace strip club? Now you've got my interest. Please tell me more!

Thanks,

Hoser[/QUOTE]Take off eh, you hoser ;)

Le Palace is THE best upscale strip club in Panama City, and it also offers take-out. They hire only the best looking Colombian women, every girl there ranges from 7 to 10, no under 7's allowed to work there.

Only drawback its reasonably expensive, I forgot the takeout price but it'll run you a few hundred bucks for TLN. But for me money is not an object so I like to fly in for the weekend and indulge myself.

Also what I like about PTY is its not a real tourist trap.

Its more of a business city with its canal and banking district

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]Take off eh, you hoser ;)

Le Palace is THE best upscale strip club in Panama City, and it also offers take-out. They hire only the best looking Colombian women, every girl there ranges from 7 to 10, no under 7's allowed to work there.

Only drawback its reasonably expensive, I forgot the takeout price but it'll run you a few hundred bucks for TLN. But for me money is not an object so I like to fly in for the weekend and indulge myself.

Also what I like about PTY is its not a real tourist trap.

Its more of a business city with its canal and banking district[/QUOTE]Like, do the girls, ah, like, dance naked, eh? And can I get beers and, like back bacon eh?

Sounds good. Are you fellow hoser by any chance, eh?

For me I can't spend too much cash so maybe too pricey for me. Like, take off eh!

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]Take off eh, you hoser ;)

Le Palace is THE best upscale strip club in Panama City, and it also offers take-out. They hire only the best looking Colombian women, every girl there ranges from 7 to 10, no under 7's allowed to work there.

Only drawback its reasonably expensive, I forgot the takeout price but it'll run you a few hundred bucks for TLN. But for me money is not an object so I like to fly in for the weekend and indulge myself.

Also what I like about PTY is its not a real tourist trap.

Its more of a business city with its canal and banking district[/QUOTE]Actually, that's what I've been told to do more of a long weekend in Panama and try it out. Problem is I need to connect airplanes so it's an all day thing for me to get there. When ever I go so place I usually stay for a week. Do you think I can find enough to do for a week?

[QUOTE=Hoser352Sounds good. Are you fellow hoser by any chance, eh?
[/QUOTE]Dutch-Canadian living in Toronto

[QUOTE=Hoser352]Actually, that's what I've been told to do more of a long weekend in Panama and try it out. Problem is I need to connect airplanes so it's an all day thing for me to get there. When ever I go so place I usually stay for a week. Do you think I can find enough to do for a week?[/QUOTE]The best way to fly is leave on a thursday, come back on a monday. That means you spent a long weekend and only pay for 4 hotel nights.

I really dont like staying longer because I can only bang so many women before I get bored with the whole deal.

I leave Toronto and always make sure I connect in either Atlanta or Miami (preferably Miami). This way you cut a 5 hour flight in 2 equal parts of 2.5 hours each.

This makes the flight bearable and when you arrive in Tocumen you'll be fresh to hit the bars that same thursday night.

I usually go hard thu-night, take it easy fri-night and order in from Golden Time, then go hard and hit the Palace again sat-night.

Sunday is for sleeping in and relaxing. Monday I fly out again.

[QUOTE=PaulGore]Get to the fish market and ask the locals. If the fish market is on your left and the Chinese gate on your right go straight till the end and you will have to turn right about 70 yards on your right there there it is. Sweet little heaven 10 bucks buys you two condoms sex and the room.[/QUOTE]Paul,

What are the chica's like?

Hoser

[QUOTE=Meat Loaf]Of course the girls at Habanos provide quality service since the Mariott hotel is across the street. Those girls know that you Gringos talk so she doesn't want to burn her bridges with a bad repuation.

Habanos is a cigar bar with about 10 or 15 Colombian hookers sitting on the cafe waiting to talk to a Gringo as they enter and exit the hotel. The Gringos see these sexy girls and go over to talk to the girls. They feel confortable.

[b]The Whole 9[/b][/QUOTE]What kind of price for the Colombianas at Habanos? ST & LT?

Hoser

[QUOTE=Thone]No the Veneto does not have free Wi Fi but there are numerous cheap internet places closeby. The one that I went to is right across the street.[/QUOTE]

there's one free hotspot right outside the veneto, in front of suite Las Vegas, Clarocom I think is the name

Another thing I like about Panama is its not cheap to monger. This keeps the riff-raff out and prevents it from becoming another Del Rey in Costa Rica or Help in Rio, where its crawling with sex-tourists.

The last thing I need is some 60-year old drunk guy bragging of how he fucked some 18 year old all the while spitting beer in my face as he's talking.

Last time I was in Veneto there was no more than 20 to 25 Gringos, and they were all well behaved. I have yet to see a fight or some American get beliggerent, most guys I met there are reasonably affluent and just out for a good time

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]Another thing I like about Panama is its not cheap to monger. This keeps the riff-raff out and prevents it from becoming another Del Rey in Costa Rica or Help in Rio, where its crawling with sex-tourists.

The last thing I need is some 60-year old drunk guy bragging of how he fucked some 18 year old all the while spitting beer in my face as he's talking.

Last time I was in Veneto there was no more than 20 to 25 Gringos, and they were all well behaved. I have yet to see a fight or some American get beliggerent, most guys I met there are reasonably affluent and just out for a good time[/QUOTE]Sounds good. I can see the appeal in this. I'd need to shorten my stay to 4 days because I don't have that much cash to throw around. On the flip side I could afford to stay in Thailand for 4 months.

Hoser

I was in campo two weeks ago and ran into several girls from Boca Torena I meet there in March. Its a big circuit Curacao Aruba Bonaire Saint Marteen Pamana and when they get home they work but not in the town they live the rate in Colombia is very similar to Boca Torena this life is all these girls know. So where ever they go there trade is always in demand just at different rates so ten dollars is better than nothing.

[QUOTE=PaulGore]I was in campo two weeks ago and ran into several girls from Boca Torena I meet there in March. Its a big circuit Curacao Aruba Bonaire Saint Marteen Pamana and when they get home they work but not in the town they live the rate in Colombia is very similar to Boca Torena this life is all these girls know. So where ever they go there trade is always in demand just at different rates so ten dollars is better than nothing.[/QUOTE]But what I hate about Curacao Aruba Bonaire Saint Maarten its a total tourist trap. Panama City is not.

You can get a nice steak meal for under $10, try that in Aruba.

Panama City is a nice untouched mongering place, I hope it stays that way.

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]
Le Palace is THE best upscale strip club in Panama City, and it also offers take-out. [/QUOTE]

Have you checked out Elite? I like it better than Le Palace, even though Le Palace may on average have somewhat better looking women. There's more of a party atmosphere and the shows are better at Elite. And it's open on Sundays.

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]But what I hate about Curacao Aruba Bonaire Saint Maarten its a total tourist trap. Panama City is not.

You can get a nice steak meal for under $10, try that in Aruba.

Panama City is a nice untouched mongering place, I hope it stays that way.[/QUOTE]You guys should get jobs in Panama's department of tourism. I'm sold. $10 steaks and $10 pussy. I'm checking the airlines right now.

Hoser

From my research, it appears that the only DayTime options in Panama City are these 3 massage parlors:

Oriental [10 am] $60
River [noon] $60
Oasis [noon] $50 (during lunch) then $100

1. Are my prices / opening times correct? Also, are they massage parlors?
2. The girls want to make money. So, where are the other P4P options during the day? (don't want to waste time/effort trying to pickup non-pros)

Casinos during the day? Streetwalkers? Bueller?

[QUOTE=Straddler]From my research, it appears that the only DayTime options in Panama City are these 3 massage parlors:

Oriental [10 am] $60
River [noon] $60
Oasis [noon] $50 (during lunch) then $100

1. Are my prices / opening times correct? Also, are they massage parlors?
2. The girls want to make money. So, where are the other P4P options during the day? (don't want to waste time/effort trying to pickup non-pros)

Casinos during the day? Streetwalkers? Bueller?[/QUOTE]

Actually, you at Oasis, you only pay $65 after 2pm (when the lunch special ends) Also there are other specials and at times you can print "$5 off" coupons from their website. Oasis opens at 11am, I think.

Sometimes, you can find some action in the casinos during the day, but most chicas are very nocturnal.

Straddler, that's a start. Look up massage parlors in the yellow pages. Other places that come to mind, that open about noon and charge about $60, are Hawaii, Caribbean Center and Royal Elegance. Actually Royal Elegance may be open 24 hours. Miami strip club is open in the afternoons, and FS costs $80 or $90. There are low end options as well that I've never sampled -- you can find out more by reading the thread.

Is there a city map of Panama listing all places of mongering, like there is in CR and St Marten? If so where is this, I cannot find it.

Thank-you

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Have you checked out Elite? I like it better than Le Palace, even though Le Palace may on average have somewhat better looking women. There's more of a party atmosphere and the shows are better at Elite. And it's open on Sundays.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to remember Elite now, but my memory is hazy.

Is it that club where as you enter the stage is on the left, and the bar is upper level straight ahead?

[QUOTE=Hoser352]You guys should get jobs in Panama's department of tourism. I'm sold. $10 steaks and $10 pussy. I'm checking the airlines right now.

Hoser[/QUOTE]Pussy is a bit more than $10 at Le Palace, LOL

Will be in Panama soon and need map of places to stay near MP's abd Bars.

[QUOTE=Indian1]Is there a city map of Panama listing all places of mongering, like there is in CR and St Marten? If so where is this, I cannot find it.

Thank-you[/QUOTE]

Indian, the scene is spread out, so one map won't do it. Fantasy's map shows part of downtown:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=624256&postcount=1726-[/url]

If you scroll down a few pages you'll find a post by me directed to Hooboo that gives directions based on Fantasy's map how to get to Elite and La Bodeguita, which are located downtown but off the map.

Two of the best places, Golden Time and Miami, are located close together away from downtown. The first time, I'd suggest you get a taxi to Miami and then walk to Golden Time, if you want to avoid paying the taxi surcharge at GT. Just follow these directions, in reverse:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=470868&postcount=1098[/url]

If you're happy paying in the $60 to $100 range, the above are the best-known options. I don't have much experience with lower-priced options, but location info is in this thread.

Hello

I am in Panama now
All Mongers !!
Aviod Oasis Massage !!, bad, bad, bad

BL

How about giving some details of WHY its bad??!

happy new year every1!!! this is going to be my first 2009 report. Went on a scouting mission to Grutal Azul in Rio Abajo, since my regulars a Capri are in Colombia.
Place might rate in the 8's, I went friday jan 2nd, so you be the judge on the average amount of people there.
I might say that I definately saw a very good range of providers, IMHO between 7 and 9.
I was able to spot a solid 10 but my sight might be lying since it was around 3-4am and with plenty of alcohol in my system.
Ill post more details as I gather them

GM out!!

Flyer posted on Capri's glass doors before New Year's Eve: Effective 1/15, each 15-min. "tiempo" will cost $20. That's $5 more than it does now.

This means Capri will cost $84 per hour, I. E. $80 + $4 for the condoms (1 per "tiempo"). Just like GT.

BTW, the owner did the same thing last year, but only for a week or two. He had to call it off after chicas complained he was killing business.

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]Pussy is a bit more than $10 at Le Palace, LOL[/QUOTE]

Understood, though I'll take a look at Baro Boca Torena. Where do I go for the $10 steak?

Hoser

This will be my first time in Panama and I am looking for guidence from the most picky mongers. People that can find entertainment at the Mayorista in Medillin need not respond. My friends and I will be in town for 3 days and are looking for high end girls to help entetain clients. Therefore, only the best will do. We would also like to know where the best quality of Colombian girls can be found. Thank you and by no means take this as a personal afront to mayorista lovers. It is just not our cup of tea. Any recomendations on fine clubs and dining will be muched appreciated.

[QUOTE=Pepe Tolete]This will be my first time in Panama and I am looking for guidence from the most picky mongers. People that can find entertainment at the Mayorista in Medillin need not respond. My friends and I will be in town for 3 days and are looking for high end girls to help entetain clients. Therefore, only the best will do. We would also like to know where the best quality of Colombian girls can be found. Thank you and by no means take this as a personal afront to mayorista lovers. It is just not our cup of tea. Any recomendations on fine clubs and dining will be muched appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Restaurants: Siete Mares (seafood) If you like buffets, the restaurant in the Intercontinental
Gentlemen's Clubs: Le Palace & Elite
Fine Club: The martini bar in the Radisson, if you're looking for something laid back
Where to find high end girls to entertain clients: To avoid picking women that will flake out on you, I'd recommend going to Golden Time and paying $350 for TLN to the owners, as opposed to trying to arrange side deals with the women. Second choice would be the aforementioned gentlemen's clubs, if you don't mind getting a late start, or are willing to go there and try and recruit before your guests arrive in Panama.

[QUOTE=Pepe Tolete]This will be my first time in Panama and I am looking for guidence from the most picky mongers. People that can find entertainment at the Mayorista in Medillin need not respond. My friends and I will be in town for 3 days and are looking for high end girls to help entetain clients. Therefore, only the best will do. We would also like to know where the best quality of Colombian girls can be found. Thank you and by no means take this as a personal afront to mayorista lovers. It is just not our cup of tea. Any recomendations on fine clubs and dining will be muched appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Baro Boca Torena comes with the highest reccomendations.

[QUOTE=Pepe Tolete]This will be my first time in Panama and I am looking for guidence from the most picky mongers. People that can find entertainment at the Mayorista in Medillin need not respond. My friends and I will be in town for 3 days and are looking for high end girls to help entetain clients. Therefore, only the best will do. We would also like to know where the best quality of Colombian girls can be found. Thank you and by no means take this as a personal afront to mayorista lovers. It is just not our cup of tea. Any recomendations on fine clubs and dining will be muched appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Think I PMed the wrong person. You want high end? Skip everything else and go to Le Palace or Golden Time, sure hit. For little mixed bag, try Elite. Apart from these places I cant recommend anything that might suit your request. You can also try some of the well known escort pages

For dinning, try Le Bistrot(Near the Radisson in Marbella), Chalet Suizo(near Venetto hotel), 7 Mares(near Granada Hotel)and Casa del Marisco(Seafood House) on avenida balboa, top restaurants

Hello,

I'm going down to Panama City later this month and narrowed it down to two places. Hotel CentroAmericano and Aparthotel Las Vegas. I searched the thread for Hotel CentroAmericano and there was only one reference that didn't go into detail. Does anyone know if this place is a decent hotel? Close to the action?

I reseached Las Vegas and it seems to be in a great location, a little pricey, but a great hotel.

[QUOTE=LatinJaguar27]Flyer posted on Capri's glass doors before New Year's Eve: Effective 1/15, each 15-min. "tiempo" will cost $20. That's $5 more than it does now.

This means Capri will cost $84 per hour, I. E. $80 + $4 for the condoms (1 per "tiempo"). Just like GT.

BTW, the owner did the same thing last year, but only for a week or two. He had to call it off after chicas complained he was killing business.[/QUOTE]

I can confirm that and believe me, the locals are not happy about this. Most frequent conversation topic is where are we going when the new price is up. Im not paying 20 for 15 mins, Id rather go in, have a few drinks with the girls and make next day arrangements

[QUOTE=Hoser352]Baro Boca Torena comes with the highest reccomendations.[/QUOTE]

Oops, sorry, I forgot that one.

My favorite place in Panama is Baro Boca Torena the way I got there was following the trail of an old Colombia girlfriends lies.

[QUOTE=Hoser352]Understood, though I'll take a look at Baro Boca Torena[/QUOTE]
What and where is Baro Boca Torena, I never heard of that place.

[QUOTE=Hoser352]Where do I go for the $10 steak?[/QUOTE]Anywhere but the big hotels, you cant miss.

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]What and where is Baro Boca Torena, I never heard of that place.[/QUOTE]

Johnny, Hoser was having some fun at Pepe's expense. It's in Casco Viejo and a piece of ass will run you about 10% of what you'd pay at Le Palace.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Johnny, Hoser was having some fun at Pepe's expense. It's in Casco Viejo and a piece of ass will run you about 10% of what you'd pay at Le Palace.[/QUOTE]

I'm going to check it out. As long as it's safe for a gringo I'll take a look. I've been to places in Mexico that we not so expensive and I had some really good times. PaulGore says the chicas do the Curacao-Aruba-St.Maarten circuit.

Hoser

On an upcoming vacation to Colombia, I will have a layover in Panama City from 2 to 8 PM. Is this long enough to make it to Golden Time and back, or should I consider a closer place? I’ll report if I am able to make the trip out and back.

[QUOTE=Monger Man]On an upcoming vacation to Colombia, I will have a layover in Panama City from 2 to 8 PM. Is this long enough to make it to Golden Time and back, or should I consider a closer place? I’ll report if I am able to make the trip out and back.[/QUOTE]

not enough to GT, it opens around 730. I think it might be enough for club miami in the vicinity(not too near) to GT or the parlors near via argentina, in the minimall behind blockbuster

MongerMan, GT opens at 7:00 p.m. Sorry.

I am going to be in Panama city next week if anybody wants a guided tour of Baro boca Torena. I will be in town till the 27th. Then off to D.R. then Barranquilla for carnival. Can you believe car rentals for under 7 dollars a day at the airport I think I am over paying the girls in boca torena at ten dollars.

GauntMan, thanks to you and LatinJaguar27 for the heads up!

[QUOTE=GauntMan]not enough to GT, it opens around 730. I think it might be enough for club miami in the vicinity(not too near) to GT or the parlors near via argentina, in the minimall behind blockbuster[/QUOTE]

I am heading into Pamana for a couple of weeks getting in on the 12Th. I will be heading to Baro Boca Torena as soon as i cheek into my hotel. If anybody wants a guided tour of Boca i will be there. I got a car rental at the airport for under 7 dollars a day the girls at boca charge ten 4 goes to the room and they get to keep 6 what a great country.

[QUOTE=PaulGore]I am going to be in Panama city next week if anybody wants a guided tour of Baro boca Torena. I will be in town till the 27th. Then off to D.R. then Barranquilla for carnival. Can you believe car rentals for under 7 dollars a day at the airport I think I am over paying the girls in boca torena at ten dollars.[/QUOTE]Paul,

Too short notice for me. I'll PM you. You'd think with this much publicity we'd get a deal at Bare Backa Torena?

Hoser

[QUOTE=PaulGore] I got a car rental at the airport for under 7 dollars a day the girls at boca charge ten 4 goes to the room and they get to keep 6 what a great country.[/QUOTE]The car rental is like the hooker who says she's going to charge you $10, then it's $20 to take off her clothes, $30 for the blowjob, and $20 or you use 3 condoms. They'll charge you an arm and a leg for insurance, and you have to take it.

My American express picks up the collision no fee just got this new card all Ameriacan Airline clubs are in cluded at no fee. Now i need a card for the girls at no fee.

Does anyone know what those 15mg codeine pills are called you can buy OTC in Panama? They contain codeine and also acetaminophen (Tylenol).

You dont need a prescription, but I cant remember the name of it.

Hey PaulGore,

I would be interested in taking you up on the tour of Boca Torena. How long are ou in town for? I live in El Cangrejo, been here about 5 months. Can't really speak Spanish all too well but I'm getting better.

PE

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]Does anyone know what those 15mg codeine pills are called you can buy OTC in Panama? They contain codeine and also acetaminophen (Tylenol).

You dont need a prescription, but I cant remember the name of it.[/QUOTE]

Are you thinking of lortabs? They're a combination of acetaminophen and some synthetic narcotic that's like codeine -- really good for high fever and I've been told for coughing. Anyway, just ask the pharmist for "pastillas de 15 miligramos de codeina y acetaminofen".

Hey guys,

I ram esearching possibly taking a trip to PTY next weekned. I haven't been here in a few years. What are the best girl friendly hotels either in or within walking distance to El Cangrejo area (Via Espana, etc....)? Price range $40 to $100. Also, if you could give contact info (email, website, etc......)

Last time I stayed in Plaza Paitilla which wasn't bad. In the past alot of people used to recommend Hotel Montreal, is this place still popular?

Thanks,

Termas Time

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Are you thinking of lortabs? They're a combination of acetaminophen and some synthetic narcotic that's like codeine -- really good for high fever and I've been told for coughing. Anyway, just ask the pharmist for "pastillas de 15 miligramos de codeina y acetaminofen".[/QUOTE]Could be Lortabs, I dont remember.

Whatever they were they fixed my hangover on the spot.

Hey guys

I'm in PTY for a month in a week. I prefer the latina look to the black/african look, and ideally I could be near Panama City. Any suggestions of where I should go/stay? Want somewhere safe too, with rent being no more than $15-$20 a day.

All tips/advice appreciated as it's my first time in the area.

[QUOTE=Borat69]Hey guys

I'm in PTY for a month in a week. I prefer the latina look to the black/african look, and ideally I could be near Panama City. Any suggestions of where I should go/stay? Want somewhere safe too, with rent being no more than $15-$20 a day.

All tips/advice appreciated as it's my first time in the area.[/QUOTE]

You should look at the public parks or the street, is a good place to stay for people without money.

Hi,

I just got finished reading some of Rey's posts and am a little confused. Is Bodeguita the same as Interiorana or Bocatorena, or are these three separate places? And if they are different, what are the differences in terms of atmosphere, price, and quality?

Looking forward to my trip on Friday. Thanks.

Termas Time

Termas, La Bodeguita (LB) is on Calle Uruguay, downtown. It's a bar, it gets going late, often has live music, and freelancers hang out there. Quality is extremely variable -- everything from dogs to a few stunners. I wouldn't call it upmarket or downmarket -- it's in between. The other two places are in Casco Viejo and are bars/brothels. I've never been there so should let others comment, but atmosphere, quality and price should all be lower compared to LB. You're comparing very short time brothels (Casco Viejo) to a freelancer spot (LB) though.

Regarding hotels, Las Vegas and Hotel Ejecutivo would fit the bill. The Ejecutivo is nicer but charges $10 (could be more now) when you bring a date back, if they catch you. It might be above your price limit. I like Plaza Paitilla better than both, except as you should know the traffic between there and hot spots can be bad at times. It may be out of your price range now. I remember paying $40 or $50 there a few years ago, now it's $100+, but they have done work on the hotel. You asked about Montreal -- it's the worst of the bunch, cramped rooms with lousy beds (you get what you pay for), but they do have a decent rooftop pool, and hookers that use the place as a short time hotel and occasionally stop by the bar.

Thanks alot Tiny. Around what time does Bodeguita get going after 2?

Termas Time

[QUOTE=Termas Time]Thanks alot Tiny. Around what time does Bodeguita get going after 2?

Termas Time[/QUOTE]

More like 11:00 PM or midnight, although 2:00 AM might not be a bad guess for peak time.

[QUOTE=Termas Time]Hey guys,

I ram esearching possibly taking a trip to PTY next weekned. I haven't been here in a few years. What are the best girl friendly hotels either in or within walking distance to El Cangrejo area (Via Espana, etc....)? Price range $40 to $100. Also, if you could give contact info (email, website, etc......)

Last time I stayed in Plaza Paitilla which wasn't bad. In the past alot of people used to recommend Hotel Montreal, is this place still popular?

Thanks,

Termas Time[/QUOTE]I just booked at Las Vegas Hotel ([url]http://www.lasvegaspanama.com/[/url]) for a trip in Feb. The rate I was given for a studio (with email correspondece with a "Guillen") was $60. 50/nite, instead of the $77 shown on the website. This is my second trip to PTY and last time I stayed at the Venetto, which is double the price. The Las Vegas is only a 2 minute walk from the Venetto.

Just got back today after a week driving around the country for a week looking for brothels and stray push found a few all similar in price to Boca. Today I hit boca right off the bat going back for seconds at 5. 39 out of there by seven at nite. Got BBBJ last week from one of the campo girls I am starting to see some lite color gringos some of you are making it down. Look around I wear a large cowboy hat say hello. The girls are still ten dollars some of the nicer ones are getting a few dollars more but most are ten.

[QUOTE=Pepe Tolete] We would also like to know where the best quality of Colombian girls can be found. [/QUOTE]The best quality Colombian girls can be found in Bogota and Medellin...by far! Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one. If you check my report from Fall 2007 (I forget exactly which month), I listed a bunch of restaurants that I tried over a two week period. Have fun, bro.

Rodeo

I know Veneto goes back and forth as to whether they allow unregistered guests; can anyone enlighten me as to what the policy is now?

Thanks,

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]The best quality Colombian girls can be found in Bogota and Medellin...by far! [/QUOTE]

I've had better GFE with Colombianas in Panama and Cartagena, I think because the hookers come from other cities, are away from home, and are more amenable to a BFE (boyfriend experience). They don't have to worry about their friends and family seeing them out at restaurants, etc., and there's no boyfriend or husband lurking in the background. If you're talking about beauty, Colombian women in Golden Time and Le Palace (Panama), La Dolce Vita (Cartagena) and even the Blue Marlin (Costa Rica) stack up against the best I've seen in Bogota or Medellin -- Casanova was the only place I've been to in those two cities that would be in the same league. I should qualify by saying it's been several years since I've been to Bogota and Medellin.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]I know Veneto goes back and forth as to whether they allow unregistered guests; can anyone enlighten me as to what the policy is now?

Thanks,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Three months ago there was no problem. If you enter on the casino level the security guy will punch the elevator button for you.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I've had better GFE with Colombianas in Panama and Cartagena, I think because the hookers come from other cities, are away from home, and are more amenable to a BFE (boyfriend experience). They don't have to worry about their friends and family seeing them out at restaurants, etc., and there's no boyfriend or husband lurking in the background. If you're talking about beauty, Colombian women in Golden Time and Le Palace (Panama), La Dolce Vita (Cartagena) and even the Blue Marlin (Costa Rica) stack up against the best I've seen in Bogota or Medellin -- Casanova was the only place I've been to in those two cities that would be in the same league. I should qualify by saying it's been several years since I've been to Bogota and Medellin.[/QUOTE]How would you compare the chicas in Baro Boca Torena to DelRey, Campo Alegre, SN, LDV etc.

Thanks,

Hoser

[QUOTE=Bijou]I just booked at Las Vegas Hotel ([url]http://www.lasvegaspanama.com/[/url]) for a trip in Feb. The rate I was given for a studio (with email correspondece with a "Guillen") was $60. 50/nite, instead of the $77 shown on the website. This is my second trip to PTY and last time I stayed at the Venetto, which is double the price. The Las Vegas is only a 2 minute walk from the Venetto.[/QUOTE]First timer that most likey hittn PTY.

I need all the info yall got.

[QUOTE=Hoser352]How would you compare the chicas in Baro Boca Torena to DelRey, Campo Alegre, SN, LDV etc.

Thanks,

Hoser[/QUOTE]I've never been to Campo Alegre, don't know what SN is, and have only walked by Baro Boca Torena during daytime. But suspect you'd be damn lucky to find something there close to the hotties in LDV or the Del Rey. If you're looking for very attractive women check out Golden Time, Le Palace and Elite. Also you'll run across a few freelancers in La Bodeguita and the Veneto that are really hot. And if this is a joke, how does Baro Boca Torena compare to DelRey/LDV -- quit being a hoser, Hoser.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I've never been to Campo Alegre, don't know what SN is, and have only walked by Baro Boca Torena during daytime. But suspect you'd be damn lucky to find something there close to the hotties in LDV or the Del Rey. If you're looking for very attractive women check out Golden Time, Le Palace and Elite. Also you'll run across a few freelancers in La Bodeguita and the Veneto that are really hot. And if this is a joke, how does Baro Boca Torena compare to DelRey/LDV -- quit being a hoser, Hoser.[/QUOTE]Tiny,

I'm being serious and here's why:

My favorite places in Monterrey Mexico are not the expensive places but two of the lower end places. I seem to find friendlier, less expensive GFE type chicas in the lower end places and I've been with some very beautiful latinas in these dumps. Now that said, Campo Alegre has lots of lesser attractive chicas but that was a few years ago so I'm not sure of the calibre now. SN is San Nicolas (Aruba) which I thought the quality was quite high so I'm going back this year. I just booked (tonight) a CTG trip with a 3 night stopover in PTY so I'll check it out for myself. Since I'm very much a gringo with limited spanish I'll want to go with a wingman and preferably Paul Gore.

Hoser

Is it really $35 for a taxi from the airport to the Marriott?.To the "City of Knowlege" Holiday Inn, $42? It's been a long time since I've paid a taxi driver that much money. Like maybe Laguardia to JFK. I thought taxis were cheap in PTY or do you just get gouged at the airport?

-does it make any sense to rent a car? (I usually don't rent cars in Latin America).

Thanks Hoser

[QUOTE=Hoser352]Is it really $35 for a taxi from the airport to the Marriott? -To the "City of Knowlege" Holiday Inn, $42? It's been a long time since I've paid a taxi driver that much money........like maybe Laguardia to JFK. I thought taxis were cheap in PTY or do you just get gouged at the airport?

-does it make any sense to rent a car? (I usually don't rent cars in Latin America).
Thanks Hoser[/QUOTE]It should be only $25 from airport to anywhere downtown PTY. If a taxi driver quotes you more, move on to the next driver. (Also, make sure that they won;t charge you additonal for tolls).

The airport taxi will gouge you. It's $25 to center city. Plus they always hit you up for the toll, another $2. 00.

I usually clear customs get outside and in my functional share spanish tell the taxi guys I want to share a taxi.

Usualy wait 2 to as much as 15 minutes before someone is found, then its $15. To center city.

I'd only recommend renting a car if you planned on driving alot outside the city to Colon, the pacific beaches or up in the mountains.

....$20-25 for a ride from the airport to my hotel.

My advice is to go upstairs to the departure gate, wait for a cab to drop off passengers, and then offer $20-25. Cabbies don't like to drive away empty, and even if they have to circle back to the arrival gate downstairs to catch the next fare, they will have to get in line and let the engine idle. Even if they get their next fare quickly, it will likely be a local, who will try to haggle them down to $15 or even $10.

With you waiting for them to drop off, they don't have to wait, they get a good fare, we carry fewer bags than returning locals, and they drop us off at a hotel where they can pick up a third fare real quick.

Caution, there may be rules agains them picking up at the departure level upstairs, so be discrete, be quick, and avoid the attention of the traffic cops. Also, insist - I repeat - insist that you are the only passenger. If you must double up, insist you get dropped off first. Nothing slows down your groove than waiting while the cabbie helps another passenger find a cheap hotel and finding that one or more fleabags are already full.

[QUOTE=Hoser352] I seem to find friendlier, less expensive GFE type chicas in the lower end places [/QUOTE]Good point Hoser, I have to admit I've had a lot of fun in some lower end places too.

I hope you have a good trip.

I found an affordable place in EL DORADO area, but was advised it's far away from center like Bella Vista and El Cangrejo. What do you guys think? I would save around $400 by staying in El Dorado, I think. (but then if taxis cost $2-3 each way, then that could add up even more).

On the other hand I realise some of the better mongering venues are in El Dorado. I like white/colombian/brazilian/spanish types, and wonder if places like GT be the most recommended for what I'm looking for.

Thanks very much!

Borat, It's not far away from Cangrejo, maybe 10 or 15 minutes unless the traffic is bad. El Dorado has Golden Time and Miami. Both are around $90 for 45 minutes to an hour, room included. GT, which is set up like a massage parlor, is open from 7:30 PM, and Miami, a strip club, is open in the afternoon but doesn't get going good until the evening. GT is a great option -- there's more wall to wall beauty there than any brothel I've visited , and the price is right. In the $90 range, Miami is the best strip club option in Panama City. The best option during the day would be Caribbean Center, a massage parlor that runs around $60. There are no shortage of women of the type you describe in these places. That said, there are a lot more light-skinned hookers downtown. The biggest problem, you might get bored in El Dorado. You don't have the variety of bars, restaurants and casinos that are available in downtown.

If the price difference is $400/month, you're going to save money unless you're paying taxis for 3 or 4 round trips a day to downtown.

I just returned from Panama. The purpose of my trip was not mongering but rather visiting Panama, while taking advantage of the chica scene on the side.

I was only in Panama City for several days, with the rest of my trip in Boquete.

In Panama City, I checked out the Veneto and Habanos. I did not go to La Bodequita because I do not like dancing and I heard it was difficult to talk as the music is very loud and difficult to get a good look at the chicas because the lighting was darken. Although the girls at Golden Time are supposed to be great looking, I prefer taking a chica to my room for a more relaxed atmosphere. As one guy described it to me, Golden Times is like being in a hospital. Everything is done with surgical precision. I heard excellent things about the quality of the chicas at the Palace but the price of taking a chica out of that place ends up costing about $300-$400, which is way too expensive for me.

I really enjoyed Habanos much more than Veneto. The Veneto and Habanos seem to have the same chicas as I would see the same ones at both places. At the Veneto, it is noisy and much more difficult to talk.

I speak basic Spanish. I like to talk to the chicas before deciding if it is worth my time to move forward with any transaction. At both places, the chicas wait for you to make the first move by motioning them to sit down. There is no pressure. As a "buyer" you constantly get to see many different chicas that seem to appear on a regular basis.

I had 4 different nights in Panama City. During the day, I was on tours, besides my time in Boquete. From my perspective, most of the chicas were overweight and full of silicon. Both characteristics are a turn off to me. Saying this, there are about 20% of the chicas who have thin bodies and are really good looking. I do realize that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

There were definitely enough really pretty and sexy chicas for me to have alot of options. Almost everyone starts off at $150. With some hesitation, it is easy to get the price down to $100. As one guy told me, if you bargain too hard, your experience will be that much worse. On one occasion, the price was $80.

I can say that with all 4 chicas, I had a great time. Our time together was relaxed and full of play and fun. Speaking Spanish was definitely a bonus as I was interested in knowing much about the chicas. Showing an interest in them also stimulates their interest in you.

I had one chica who was totally honest with me. She was a dental student from Columbia and had only been in Panama for 10 days. She was there only to make money for school. Her family did not know about her working habits in Panama. I asked her if she liked the "work" that she was doing and she told me, without any hesitation, "no". I don't blame her. Although she did not like the 'work", she was fun to be with and we talked as much as we had any sexual activities, which I personally find more enjoyable.

On another occasion, I was ready to make a deal with this really cute, sexy, non silicon, Colombian. In our conversations, she was all business like and told me that I had to pay the money in advance (which I do not mind doing) and that our time together would be strictly only an hour. With further questioning, she made it clear that the time limit would be strictly enforced. I then told her that I wanted a chica with more "affection" than strictly a business transaction. We both parted ways without any animosity or any relationship.

In summary, I thought that Habanos was a great place to find cute, thin, and sexy chicas. I prefer a quiet setting over the noise of the Veneto.

This forum has been an excellent resource for me and I wanted to give you my thoughts for those gonig to Panama in the future.

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Thanks for all that awesome info. If anyone is in town and wants to meet up drop me a PM as I'll be around for a good few weeks.

Here's a few tricks that've worked so far:

1. Cab -> El Dorado from airport for $20. I was originally quoted $25-30 but found it for $20. I got details for driver, if you want it PM me.

2. Tipping: it appears it isn't customary to tip here. I suppose for most of us $1 tip won't mean much but seeing we don't want to mess up gringo prices further, prob best to avoid

3. Casino near Miami - not sure name, but I saw some cuties wandering around. I imagine most of them even non-pros would be interested.

4. Apartment vs Hotel: I managed to get a room in an apartment with my own private shower in El Dorado, literally across from Club Miami, for just around $500 for the month. Also has AC and wifi, and a chain of restaurants around including Niko's Cafe and a bunch of chinese restaurants.

My questions:

1. I wonder if I can do better in terms of location as I want to do some tourist things. Thinking to try a hotel in Bella Vista or El Cangrejo but I hear it's even noisier there. Any thoughts?

2. Any central hotels for around $20-$30 a night have reliable wifi and are somewhat 'quiet' for Panama City? How's Maripariso/Latino/Monaco compared with California?

3. Do places like GT / Miami take CC? And can someone give me easy to follow directions from Miami to GT? Turns out Miami is just across the street from me!

4. Are there any good cheap authentic chinese massage places? El Dorado seems to be full of chinese people so I figured this must be available somewhere :)

5. Do you find the girls in the Boquieta / David region to be more attractive? Might venture down that way if it's safe :)

Borat:

I'll try to help you out with a few responses to your questions:

1. Bella Vista or El Cangrejo will not be noisier than El Dorado. It will be kind of the same thing unless you live by a club, disco or something similar. I would say they are better locations than your current one, though.

2. Can't help here since I ususally get very good accommodations because of work.

3. GT gladly accepts CC. I would be surprised to find out about any place in Panama city of a certain standing that does not take CC.

4. Don't know of any normal Chinese massage place in town. Most people are not really looking for a real massage anyway. And you will find Chinese people mostly anywhere you go.

5. The Chiriqui/David/Boquete area is not really the place where you will find more beautiful girls but the area is definitely safe and girls are more relaxed. Could be more convenient for getting regular chicas.

I hope this helps you out.

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[QUOTE=Borat69]
My questions:

3. Do places like GT / Miami take CC? And can someone give me easy to follow directions from Miami to GT? Turns out Miami is just across the street from me!

5. Do you find the girls in the Boquieta / David region to be more attractive? Might venture down that way if it's safe :)[/QUOTE]

Golden Time definitely takes credit cards, and the merchant name is obscure on your bill. Golden Time is up the hill of the road past the KFC, up towards McDonald's. Golden Time is in the strip mall across the Tumba Muerto, between the Quizno's and Popeye's. It has a bright yellow lighted sign; you can't miss it.

I think the girls from the western part of Panama are lighter skinned and more classically latina-looking, instead of the afro-influenced women of Panama City. I haven't met a panamanian working girl that wasn't what most gringos would call "black".

David and Boquete are safe, but it's a 6-hour bus ride or a 1-hour plane ride. I don't think there's much about mongering in Boquete in this forum, but it's a beautiful place and completely opposite of P-City: cool and calm.

Hi gents,

Have any of you guys stayed at the Courtyard Marriott at the Pacific Mall downtown? If so, can you advise on whether its location is central to some of the mongering spots?

Thanks

I've just added TP horn, Parker674, PeterSmith and Tiny12's reports to the Reports of Distinction.

I'm updating this report, as I've just had my first experience at GT. I'm sure some of this info has been repeated, but hopefully it will help some.

Before venturing to GT, I walked up from Crazy Horse (any tips for this place?). I also went into the Casino Fantastic. There were just old panamanians and lots of chinese people there. Left as swiftly as I entered.

GT is located right across the street from McDonalds, along the left side of the corridor from that fastfood joint mentioned. As mentioned before, hard to miss. Be careful crossing the road. The drivers go a bit nuts!

As soon as I got in, there's a counter with 2 receptionists. I thought I had to pay immediately, but they just gestured me through.

And boy, were you guys right...

There was a room full of pretty girls. It would be hard to not make a choice and leave (do they get annoyed if you do?) Most were darker skinned colombians. Most in my books: 7-8.5. Most had fake tits and bubble butts, which was great. Some a bit too cellulity for my tastes.

I was let into a side room. A few minutes later the 'mamasan' brought the line up. They run pretty quick, so the tip on having a notepad with a pen would help. I found it tough in between my heart pounding, staring at the line up of silicona chicas. Of note, I remember 15 and 34 caught my eye, but I ended up going with 46 or 47, can't remember the exact number. Will have to DAFS through some other recommendations.

As soon as I made my choice, I went to pay. $85 they said. Glad it wasn't the higher price. I whipped out my CC but turns out they need my ID. I didn't have one on me so had to pay cash.

The girl was from colombia. She's 25, and a sweetheart. She took me up the stairs, and to the room. Unfortunately communicating was not easy. She came back swiftly and we got down to it. She offered a massage but I said I'll have it later.

We finisehd through 1st pop, CBJ and cowboy. I regret not taking it slow, because I thought it would be 2 pops in an hour. She then said it was only 1 pop. Wanted another $50 for 2nd round. Fuck that.

But massage following was great. So that made up for it.

With the large number of choices, it'll be hard to confine to sticking to one chica. I'll have to discipline myself so I don't burn through cash seeing I live so close by.

I am not sure if tipping was customary also, but I didn't want to hike up prices so I didn't. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated, along with advice on the norm price for 2 pops, should that be included in the hour etc.

In summary:

1. Bring ID if you want to pay with CC
2. Be attentive with lineup as they go fast.
3. Don't act like a gringo. Get cab to drop you off at casino to get it for $85 instead of $95.
4. Some spanish would help.
5. Enjoy!

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Finally, thank you to those that have initiated me to PTY. I think I may distribute my few weeks here between PTY and West Panama for a few days. I may also check out Habanos if it's recommended. The girls in GT will do, but I do prefer the lighter skin look too. Any advice on this would be appreciated, even if I have to work for the freebies. I also do like the thinner more natural look like PeterSmith, so revving up the silicone is not necessary.

Also if anyone can recommend a good cheap spanish teacher/school in Panama, that would be great. I'll prob stick to staying in the El Dorado region.

[QUOTE=Borat69]Thanks for all that awesome info. If anyone is in town and wants to meet up drop me a PM as I'll be around for a good few weeks.

Here's a few tricks that've worked so far:

2. Tipping: it appears it isn't customary to tip here. I suppose for most of us $1 tip won't mean much but seeing we don't want to mess up gringo prices further, prob best to avoid

[/QUOTE]

Id say to follow the general rule, if think the service provided was above average, feel free to tip, if you return then you might be in for a surprise in the service if you had chemistry with the girl.
Now dont overtip!! Id say $10 is a good enough tip

yeah i prob should have then. rather tip the girl than the taxi driver.

btw i took a cab today from albrook mall to el dorado and got charged $4. Is that normal? I thought it should be $2 everywhere. Is there a certain way to say it? I heard asking the cab to take you to the Galleria Miami usually cuts down on cost. I suppose Casino Fantastic is another option (as mentioned).

Finally, what are thoughts on multiple pops? Does it just depend on the girl whether it's included? Also with BBBJ / CIM are there fixed rates or inclusive? Thanks!

Borat: Nothing is included nor excluded. It all depends on the girl. It helps to have a little conversation beforehand to make all those details clear. From experience I'd say you won't get much more than the usal in most case. Yet I had a few wonderful experiences and received way more than I expected.

On the cab issue, I'm afraid they will try to charge you more if you look too much like a foreigner and don't speak much Spanish. Ask them to take yu to El Dorado (the mall across the street). Believe me, they know where you are going if you ask them to take you to Galerias Miami.

[QUOTE=Parker674]On the cab issue, I'm afraid they will try to charge you more if you look too much like a foreigner and don't speak much Spanish. Ask them to take yu to El Dorado (the mall across the street). Believe me, they know where you are going if you ask them to take you to Galerias Miami.[/QUOTE]

The reason GT charges ten dollars more, is because that is what is passed on to the cab driver. The cabbie will say he earned his commission by convincing you to go to GT instead of somewhere else. GT doesn't ask you, they just pass on the commission to you.

By having the cabbie drive you to Casino, going inside, waiting a couple of minutes (just long enough to use their bathroom), and then coming out after the cabbie leaves (with another fare), you avoid it altogether. He can't follow you to GT (like one cabbie did when I had him drop me off at Popeyes) to jack up your price. If he picks up a fare at the casino, or the big Chinese owned supermarket across the street, he'll be long gone by the time you come back out. If, for some reason he is still there, go to the supermarket, or if the supermarket is closed, keep walking to Miami Club.

Now, Miami Club might pay cabbies a commission, but it will be in the form of a $10/2 drink minimum. But that is easy to avoid.

[QUOTE=Parker674]Borat: Nothing is included nor excluded. It all depends on the girl. It helps to have a little conversation beforehand to make all those details clear. From experience I'd say you won't get much more than the usal in most case. Yet I had a few wonderful experiences and received way more than I expected.

On the cab issue, I'm afraid they will try to charge you more if you look too much like a foreigner and don't speak much Spanish. Ask them to take yu to El Dorado (the mall across the street). Believe me, they know where you are going if you ask them to take you to Galerias Miami.[/QUOTE]

thanks for e tip parker.

i'm unsure in an environment like GT how you would talk to the girl before choosing them.

do you choose, then before paying just ask whether they can do it? and should they say no you just change to someone else?

might check out club miami too, since it's so close by. i just went in around 5pm 2-3 days ago and it looked really empty.

by the way, do they get unfriendly if you don't choose anyone and decide to leave?

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I've had better GFE with Colombianas in Panama and Cartagena, I think because the hookers come from other cities, are away from home, and are more amenable to a BFE (boyfriend experience). They don't have to worry about their friends and family seeing them out at restaurants, etc., and there's no boyfriend or husband lurking in the background. If you're talking about beauty, Colombian women in Golden Time and Le Palace (Panama), La Dolce Vita (Cartagena) and even the Blue Marlin (Costa Rica) stack up against the best I've seen in Bogota or Medellin -- Casanova was the only place I've been to in those two cities that would be in the same league. I should qualify by saying it's been several years since I've been to Bogota and Medellin.[/QUOTE]Ahh yes, Casanova! They know me well in there! Must acknowledge La Mancion and Juan Pablo's as well...nothing but smoking hot chicas from all over Colombia; I digress.

Back to Panama mongering!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Borat69]thanks for e tip parker.

i'm unsure in an environment like GT how you would talk to the girl before choosing them.

do you choose, then before paying just ask whether they can do it? and should they say no you just change to someone else?

might check out club miami too, since it's so close by. i just went in around 5pm 2-3 days ago and it looked really empty.

by the way, do they get unfriendly if you don't choose anyone and decide to leave?[/QUOTE]In GT you call the girl you like by number and she comes and sits next to you. You can talk and if if it doesn't work out ask the guy to get you another one. Just remember all the interesting numbers and your priority order. Of course, if you abuse they won't like it.

And in GT and in any other place you can leave if you don't like what you see. Once again, don't push it too much.

Go to Miami at night.

this is my first trip report and first post for that matter. since i have benefited so much from all the tips on this forum i have decided to return some of the favor with this report and hopefully you will find some of the information here useful. i am on the tail end of my panama visit, a 2.5 day visit which is the first leg of my central american adventure.

day 1

i arrived tat panama city last tuesday night and was greeted with the information that my luggage had been delayed and wouldn’t arrive until the next day. so i made the lonely walk to the exit and went over to the taxi booth (on your right as you exit customs), there was no one there but after a few seconds a guy approached me and explained the fares. he quoted $25 (the posted rate) plus $3 for the toll booths. without much of an alternative i accepted and was escorted to a minibus, fortunately a couple of other travelers were looking for a ride so the fare ended up being $10 for the guy who escorted us to the taxi (finder’s fee) and $11 to the driver. so $21 total. i had booked the eurohotel (hotel euro to some of the locals) and while i was checking in i found out that the hotel was sold out, so booking the room via expedia turned out to be a good idea. unfortunately i found out that the only room available was one of the worst rooms in the building (on the ave. españa side) that drowns you with the cacophonous noise of the traffic outside; this despite me calling in a few days earlier to ask for a room away from the street. i asked the front desk girl to find me a room on the other side of the building the next day when guests check out.

it was between 9-10 pm when i decided i should check out golden time to see what all the fuss was about. so i hailed a taxi in the street and asked him to take me to casino fantastic, he said he knew were it was. along the way he picks up this student chica who is going in the same direction. soon i find out that he is taking me to casino majestic and i promptly remind him of the fantastic name, he says he is having a brain cramp and can’t remember where it is. the student says she knows where it is and gives direction, but it turns out to be another casino. long story short: after a tour of the city he finds fantastic. i get off and pay him $1.50. i go in and check out the flock of middle aged chinese women sitting in front of the one-arm bandits. i guess they are the wives of chinese businessmen who live here. a few minutes later i exit and walk to the mcdonalds then cross the street to popeye’s (you’ll also see a huge mirage neon sign in the plaza). a couple of stores down from the popeye’s is the supposed holy grail of colombiana ass which is guarded by a couple of guys. after a quick frisk i walk in and the cashier girl indicates that i should just go ahead. i walk through the door and i’m greeted by a young man, the maitre’d of the joint. he guides me to a room with couches and towels. i sit and after explaining the procedure he calls in the chicas. now i am expecting a parade of 9s and 10s and much to my chagrin i only see a half dozen of 7’s (give or take a point). i assume that this is because it’s 10pm on a tuesday, but nevertheless i pick chica #17 a paisa (from medellin) called diana.

diana (gt): 26yrs, paisa, no kissing, cbj ($50 for bbbj), daty, no pics ($20), 7/10 looks, 6/10 performance

i strike up a conversation with her (i am fluent in spanish) and soon find out that she has been in the country for only a short time and plans on staying here for 6 or so months before going back to medellin. i picked her because she was the only one of the lineup that smiled (barely though) and besides i liked her ass. so after getting my drink which the maitre’d had offered i went to the front desk and paid the $84. up the stairs we go and into the doctor’s room. well, the room wasn’t much more different than your standard examination room: a narrow sterile room with a shower and a sink at the end and an examination table on the right. there are a couple of monkey bars on the roof so that you won’t fall when you are on the bed, which is pretty high. i later found out that there are better rooms. i was not able to convince diana to pose for pics (she asked for $20 to pose) so we get on to the act (she asked for $50 when i asked for bbbj). she had big natural breasts and a natural plump butt. the performance was sterile and after 45 mins or so i am done. she goes to the shower and cleans up the room and out we go. i cross the street and catch a cab back to the hotel.

day 2

the next morning after barely sleeping because of all the road noise i go down for breakfast and decide to try out the lunch special at oasis. so around noon i catch a cab to the veneto area and walk into oasis. oasis is easy to find, just look for the big sign to the left of the veneto, you will have to go down the stairs to the lower section of the plaza and then look for the iron-gated storefront. to the right there is a semi-hidden door (look for the girls, girls girls neon). inside a guy behind a desk greeted me and asked if i want a massage to which i replied yes. he asks me to sit on one of the couches and calls in the chicas. they walked in at the same time and stand in front of you. i asked for their names and picked a caleña (from cali) called daniella. i pay at the front desk ($50) and proceed to the room.

daniella (oasis): 23 yrs, caleña, no kissing, cbj, no daty, no pics, 7/10 looks, 7/10 performance

daniella has been in the country for 7 months. she is a sweet young and petite girl who has natural breasts and butt; but she is not happy with them and dreams of enhancing both in the future. she is shy and she smiles a lot and is reluctant to let you touch her clit. i asked her why and she says she is very sensitive down there. well i consider this a challenge and after warming her up a bit she opens up (literally) and lets me touch her. i soon find out what she meant as she starts to moan in pleasure. as she doesn’t let daty we get started on the deed after a brief cbj. she makes excellent eye contact and she really enjoys it. after the deed i found out why she doesn’t kiss: it turns out that she has a novio, a 29 year old italian who is coming to town in a couple of days. she seems to be in love and dreams of marrying him one day. this she didn’t tell me but i figured out when i told her her name sounds italian, after which she started reciting her name with the italian novio’s last name attached! she wanted to see how it would sound. i shower and leave. the room was much better than the gt’s, at least it had a bed and you could move a bit.

after oasis i went to manolo’s and then headed back to the hotel to change my room and wait for my luggage. once i got my luggage i decided to go check out the scene at veneto and habano. when i got to veneto it was around 7:30 pm and there was not a chica in sight, so i decided to check out habano. thanks to fantasy’s map i found the place (really just across from the marriott) and walked to the porch and ordered a drink. it was 8 pm and it was nothing but a sausage-fest, i thought i was at the wrong place. i got my drink and started watching a soccer game on the tv. all of a sudden around 8:15 a car pulls up and out come 3 chicas, seconds later it’s chica invasion, they are dropping in from left and right like the 2nd airborne division. finally! by the time i left (around 9) there were about 8-10 of them sitting in groups or alone and they ranged in the 7-9 range with the exception one big momma that i have no idea how she can manage to compete with all the talent there. i guess she has her own admirers – to each his own. since i had a very early day in the morning and i had already had the nooner with daniella i headed back to the hotel.

day 3

if you are thinking of visiting colon i have one word of advice: don’t! i went to the free zone (zona libre) and what a hell-hole (i saw human [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url] on the sidewalk). it was a barrio of decrepit stores that sold junk at twice the price of the states; a digital camera that you can buy for $160 in the states was going for $260 here. the reason i had come to colon was to see the gatun locks and check out the passage of ships through the canal. that part was good and i managed to hire a taxi to take me there, wait and return me to the bus station for $20. i had taken the train to colon, which gives you a great view of the canal but i didn’t want to wait for the return train which left around 5pm so i took an express (whatever that means) bus back to p.c. what a hellish ride, the a/c was barely working, the bus was full and then some, and the driver would stop at every corner in town to pick up passengers (they would sit in the aisles) until we got out of town. it took more than 2 hrs to get to the albrook mall bus terminal. once i got back to the hotel i decided to chill out for a bit to recover and took a dip in the pool. the maids were amused by me going to the pool, i guess pools are for children here? after resting i decided to head back to manolo’s for an early dinner and then give gt a chance to redeem itself. so around 8 i made my way to gt by the same method as before, minus the tour of the city (this cab driver didn’t know fantastic so i had to give him directions!). so this is thursday around 8, if this not the right time for gt then never is. so i proceeded to the room and the girls walk in and wow. ok now we are talking. the parade of god-modded colombianas had started, about a dozen of 8-9 chicas walked by and i chose #6 marcela, a paisa.

marcela (gt): age undisclosed, paisa, no kissing, cbj, daty, pics (?), 9/10 looks, 6/10 performance

marcela has been in town for about 8 months and she will be going back to medellin in about 2 months. she is a spinner with bolt on tits and a snap on butt. i had never seen a modded butt up close and this one was quite a sight to behold, especially in the mirror with you next to it. if this wasn’t the mythical bunda then i don’t know what is, and i am fan of sir mixalot. don’t get me wrong she was not fat at all, she had washboard abs and nalgas you could put your beer on, in other words the right direction. as we were walking to the room i tell her how uncomfortable the bed and rooms are and she said there were actually 2 rooms that are good but they are occupied, she went and checked one (room 10) to be sure. we got in to the same style room as before and i asked her for a massage which she did a decent job with. i had negotiated pics with her beforehand but in the room she said lets do it at the end (bad sign). so we proceeded to bump uglies and soon she was complaining about being tired, her elbows hurt in doggie, her neck hurts from the pillows, etc. so i hurry up and finish so i can take those promised pics (that ass was poster material). but as soon as i am done she turns into a bitter woman because she freaked out thinking i got some of my juice in her hair (i didn’t even get any on her body as she darted out at the crucial moment). she says there is no time for pics even though there are 15 mins left. after cleaning the room we leave and she just turns and goes with not so much as a bye. whatever.

i went out and caught a cab back to veneto for a drink and to check out the scene. when i got there the parade was on and once i managed to get a drink order in i started chatting to a couple of ny dudes who seemed to have a pet dominicana. it turns out she had been following them since the day before because one of them talked to her. she was certainly no competition for the talent there, she was a 4 (and i am being generous) and she was thick all around. one of the guys said she had been begging him to take her and kept following him around the casino like a lost dog. she had lowered her offer to $20 but he was not into this business (or so claimed). so i guess you can get bargain deals at veneto after all. i finished my drink and i went to the hotel to get ready for my morning flight to costa rica.

tips:

- not all cab driver know where fantasic is so remember to tell them it is in el dorado, or use the other geographical references mentioned in the forum.
- gt is not always loaded with 9’s and 10’s so choose the right time.
- ask for room 10 in gt if you can.
- if you stay at eurohotel insist upon getting a room at the back.
- oasis can be a decent alternative and the $50 lunch special is a good deal.

sorry if the report is too long. :)

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[QUOTE=Axel Monger]Now I am expecting a parade of 9s and 10s and much to my chagrin I only see a half dozen of 7’s (give or take a point). I assume that this is because it’s 10PM on a Tuesday, but nevertheless I pick chica #17 a Paisa (from Medellin) called Diana.

DIANA (GT): 26yrs, Paisa, No Kissing, CBJ ($50 for BBBJ), DATY, No Pics ($20), 7/10 Looks, 6/10 Performance

[/QUOTE]

The quality there can vary from month to month, depending on what kind of crop they've currently got from Colombia, as well as time and day. Sundays at GT, when a lot of the women take off, can be terrible. 10:00 PM on a Tuesday shouldn't be that bad, unless a lot of the women happen to be occupied with customers. Around 8:00 PM, shortly after they open may be the best time to go, like you did the second time. YMMV here more than some places, maybe because of the massage parlor set up. You're not going to sit, talk and drink with a woman for 30 minutes like you can in a freelancer bar or a strip club. I have to admit I pulled one of the worst (and hottest looking) lays of my life from GT. And unfortunately, I paid $350 for the experience. I let her go about 2:30 AM, even though I paid for TLN. One other thing, about your second experience, where you came up 15 minutes short, I think the sessions in house are only supposed to be 45 minutes.

Nice report, thanks for taking the time to write it up.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]One other thing, about your second experience, where you came up 15 minutes short, I think the sessions in house are only supposed to be 45 minutes.[/QUOTE]Actually I confirmed the time both times and was told it is for 1 hr. The girls call in when you get to the room and the clock starts then. I never got a call that time was up. But I guess the cleanup time is included in that hour and the girls try to stretch that part as much as they can.

[QUOTE=Axel Monger]Actually I confirmed the time both times and was told it is for 1 hr. The girls call in when you get to the room and the clock starts then. I never got a call that time was up. But I guess the cleanup time is included in that hour and the girls try to stretch that part as much as they can.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I think you're right. A monger named Sandman negotiated 15 minutes additional there for anyone who said "Sandman sent me." They quit honoring this several years ago, but I thought that extended the time from 45 minutes to an hour. At least my date would have me out of the room in about an hour. But it must have been from 1 hour to 1 hour 15 minutes.

Anyway, I've gotten take out there in recent years -- you pay around $140 and get an hour and a half. You can take your date back to your hotel, or one of the love motels on Transistmica, so you don't have to deal with the crappy massage tables. And it improves the chances you'll get GFE. I thought it was an O.K. deal, paying $65 to double the time, but not as good as I thought if you're getting an hour in the rooms.

Alex, thanks for sharing your PC experience. Was it to long? Hell no! :)

Good information on how to find GT, Good information about the rooms in GT, and valuble information on Oasis and Habanao. Just a wellwritten, easy to follow guide/experience report.

- If someone can share any tips on the non-pro hunting, please send a report to the forum. - I will be in PC in less then 2 weeks, and hope to come back with both pictures and reports here on the forum in April.

Btw, If anyone of you members are in PC in the end of feb, just send me a pm and well meet up for a couple of cold beers and a good time.

Happy hunting friends, / Ken Apples

Hey guys,

I wanted to give quick summaries of the different venues that I visited during my trip to Panama City. This is my third trip, but first in 4-5 years.

Le Palace (strip club):
Definately, the best eye-candy of the city, lots of 8-10. Take out appears to be >$350. Can make deals with girls on the outside for much less, maybe $200 avg. Shows are more like skits and happen around every 20 min. during peak time, and aren't as corny as the used to be.

Elite II (strip club):
Quality down compared to previous visits but ok, not up to Le Palace standards. Take out is also expensive. Stage performances are constant and are up tempo dance music. Entrance is expensive, min. $30 for open bar.

Miami (strip club):
Quality similar to Elite II, may be a little less. Sex onsite less $100. Stage performances occur every one while. One drink minimum around $10.

El Capri (strip club):
More of local strip club. Quality is ok, and better than it used to be. Sex for for foreigners is $41 for 20 min. Went with fair-skinned Panamanian named Angelina. Ok sex, nothing special.

Bodeguita (dance club):
Lots of free-lancers from Colombia hit this club late at night. They are pretty easy to spot. Music is typically Colombian/latin. Club is pretty dark. I think entrance was around $10. Would recommend, just need to negotiate.

Golden Times (massage parlor):
High quality of Colombians, second to only Le Palace. Price is $84 with no taxi.
Enthusiam and massage quality seem to be down to previous visits. Went with #34 and #24. #34 was very sexy but not really enthusiastic. #24 was alittle friendlier. Nothing memorable with either which was downer since I have had some fun times here.

Veneto Casino (casino):
Lots of free-lancers from Colombia. They tend to hang out in small groups or alone at slot machines. Many will begin negotiations at $150 but can be lowered to around $100. Went with a real stunner, Veronica. Had a good time.

Panama City continues to have alot of options and I was pleased with my visit.

Termas Time

Guys,

I hear that dance club Moods on calle 48 in Bella Vista and club Next on Av. Balboa have possible take-out options.

Can any of you verify this?

Thanks

I will be in PCity from 2/18-2/22 and 2/28-3/3 if anyone is there and would like to hang and get around.

[QUOTE=Common Sense]Guys,

I hear that dance club Moods on calle 48 in Bella Vista and club Next on Av. Balboa have possible take-out options.

Can any of you verify this?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I have no experience with that, but when I look over the local social event websites like dealante.com elcuara.com and lacascara.tv, I see a lot of women whom I would say fit the profile of colombian hookers in many of the bars around Calle Uruguay.

La Bodeguita definitely does have takeout options. From my recent visits, I'd say that almost all women in there are available for takeout.

By the way, Next was demolished about 2 years ago, so you better check your source.

[QUOTE=Freedom Fighter]I will be in PCity from 2/18-2/22 and 2/28-3/3 if anyone is there and would like to hang and get around.[/QUOTE]I will be in PTY also from 2/20-2/24 and staying at Las Vegas Suites. If you want to have a beer and check the venues together, I'd be happy to. There is another person that is suppose to be there at around the same also.

Bijou

[QUOTE=Termas Time]Hey guys,

I wanted to give quick summaries of the different venues that I visited during my trip to Panama City. This is my third trip, but first in 4-5 years.

Le Palace (strip club):
Definately, the best eye-candy of the city, lots of 8-10. Take out appears to be >$350. Can make deals with girls on the outside for much less, maybe $200 avg. Shows are more like skits and happen around every 20 min. during peak time, and aren't as corny as the used to be.

Elite II (strip club):
Quality down compared to previous visits but ok, not up to Le Palace standards. Take out is also expensive. Stage performances are constant and are up tempo dance music. Entrance is expensive, min. $30 for open bar.

Miami (strip club):
Quality similar to Elite II, may be a little less. Sex onsite less $100. Stage performances occur every one while. One drink minimum around $10.

El Capri (strip club):
More of local strip club. Quality is ok, and better than it used to be. Sex for for foreigners is $41 for 20 min. Went with fair-skinned Panamanian named Angelina. Ok sex, nothing special.

Bodeguita (dance club):
Lots of free-lancers from Colombia hit this club late at night. They are pretty easy to spot. Music is typically Colombian/latin. Club is pretty dark. I think entrance was around $10. Would recommend, just need to negotiate.

Golden Times (massage parlor):
High quality of Colombians, second to only Le Palace. Price is $84 with no taxi.
Enthusiam and massage quality seem to be down to previous visits. Went with #34 and #24. #34 was very sexy but not really enthusiastic. #24 was alittle friendlier. Nothing memorable with either which was downer since I have had some fun times here.

Veneto Casino (casino):
Lots of free-lancers from Colombia. They tend to hang out in small groups or alone at slot machines. Many will begin negotiations at $150 but can be lowered to around $100. Went with a real stunner, Veronica. Had a good time.

Panama City continues to have alot of options and I was pleased with my visit.

Termas Time[/QUOTE]Great wrap up, thanks! I'm headed there 12-16 March and was wondering if prices had changed in the year and a half since my last trip...seems not.

Rodeo

Can anyone provide me with a link to a good Report of Distinction or other post that details mongering near the Fish Market or other local places outside of the banking district during the day? Not sure if there's any kind of map or list of mongering establishments, but that would be great. I'm looking to expand beyond the commercial stuff on my next trip, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance hermanos!

Rodeo

Hey guys, sorry for the random question but I searched a bit and wasn't sure. I'm arriving, allegedly at 645 on next Friday. I never arrive on time, let's say I do, I get to Torres de Alba and in my room, let's call it 8 after a bunch of things happen, make copy of passport and stamp (if you don't do this in Panama you are insane, I've been stopped a few times, the cops work with the cabs especially in Miami)... etc... Anyways, I'm out of vitamin V and I can't get it in the states, does anyone know a pharmacy I can hit really quick? I usually buy in bulk and only once bought in Panama City in the pharmacy that is on the street more or less perpendicular to Juanchos and Cotton Club. I'm sure there are few places, but is the pharmacy part open etc. Any help is hugely appreciated, especially if you know something open a bit later.

A-monger, if that is the same Marcella I know, she has amazing long hair and is insanely hot, and much older than I ever imagined, I thought she was 23 at first sight and have been back several times but often she is ordered before the place is open and she never hits the floor...

I'm in town next weekend if anyone wants to grab a drink at Habano's, downtime in between the craziness and I like to take my 2nd or third of the day home to the apt, then grab a drink at the veneto before heading to Boedgeuita and Juanchos... Panama's a party!!

[QUOTE=Icyhoteric]
Anyways, I'm out of vitamin V and I can't get it in the states, does anyone know a pharmacy I can hit really quick? I usually buy in bulk and only once bought in Panama City in the pharmacy that is on the street more or less perpendicular to Juanchos and Cotton Club.
[/QUOTE]

That farmacia is the "Arrocha" chain and there are many. The one on Avenida Balboa in front of MultiCentro ($1 taxi) is open 'til 11 pm. I think some branches are 24 hrs. There's also one on the Tumba Muerto on the way to Golden Time.

I had wonderful take-out from Club Miami last night. And here are the details.

First, since no one seems to post exactly where these places are. Club Miami is one (long) block behind Casino Fantastic. The opposite direction from the big boulevard that Golden Time is on. It's just down the block from Crazy Horse, another strip club that looks intriguing (anyone know? )

There's no cover at Miami, plenty of girls, and usually at least one dancing. As soon as I had a beer in my hand, one started chatting me up and two minutes later wanted me to buy her a drink. Give a guy a chance to get settled!

Sensing an opening, a girl named Stephanie came over for a chat. She speaks English which is great, since my Spanish is not. Stephanie is great. Fun, flirty, beautiful in every way (honestly, I think she was the hottest one there). And REAL. You know what I mean. So many of them are just going through the motions, or don't have anything going on upstairs, or could care less about you, etc.

I bought her a couple of drinks ($12 each), she ground against me, and convinced me to buy her for the night. This is actually the first time I've done this. Usually I stick to in-call. But there was a definite connection there, and I wanted to take our time. It was not cheap. I had to pay the house $120 for her to leave, then $150 to her (initially she quoted $200, but quickly lowered it).

They have cabs waiting outside the club that know the girls, and vice versa. This is a smart way to protect the girls. I found out later that the same cabbie came to pick her up in the morning. The cab to downtown was ridculously overpriced at $10 but at this point that's a mere drop in the bucket, right? That money probably also covers her ride home, so we can take comfort in that.

I'll take a moment to give a shout-out to my hotel. Hotel Texaco, on Calle 31 between Avenida Cuba & Peru. I'm traveling on a budget these days, so I welcome places that are reasonably priced. $22/night, includes cable TV (w/ a porn channel, if that matters to you), clean bathroom, A/C. It's not luxury, but totally fine. Last week I stayed in Hotel Arrenciba (sp? ) a couple of blocks away, and it was super clean and modern for just $30/night. The area is full of them, you just have to pick a couple to look in. Oh, and all these places are friendly to "guests". They are quite used to it. In fact, I saw boxes of condoms by the front desk at two of them!

Anyway. We get settled in the room, and she is fun and frisky. She hasn't had sex since breaking up with her boyfriend a month ago (hard to believe, but I did. This chick is sincere if nothing else. She's also very selective.) She told me her real name (which I won't repeat here out of respect) and we chatted a bit. We stripped, had some nice kissing which you don't always get with professionals, so I appreciated that. I went down on her for a while and actually got her to cum, yes! I convinced her to blow me a bit sans condom (YMMV) which was nice, but pretty quickly she wanted me in her. The sex was really nice, it was a total GFE. She would get worn out or need to take a break or sleep, but was agreeable and accomodating when I gently pushed for "just one more".

We caught a couple of hours sleep before her phone rang. It was the cabbie, telling her to get up. Get this. Normally the girls work from 7pm until 6am each night. [Her mom thinks she works at a call center. ] She goes home to change, then goes to English classes from 9. 11 three days a week. Good grief.

Anyway, it was a lovely evening with a lovely woman. Treat her right gentlemen, and she will respond in kind.

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My thing is that I like older women. I will be combining quick 4 day trips with more extended 2 week long stays over the next 2 years. My question is what are my options for:

A) Quick hit and runs: Are there a lot of Columbian/Panamanian MILFS available at the regular spots like Golden Times?

B)Non Pro girls: I would like to set up some type of Sugar Daddy situation with some older ladies. What is the best way to meet them? Should I run an ad? Use the internet? Ant hot spots for Cougars?

[QUOTE=Icyhoteric]Hey guys, sorry for the random question but I searched a bit and wasn't sure. I'm arriving, allegedly at 645 on next Friday. I never arrive on time, let's say I do, I get to Torres de Alba and in my room, let's call it 8 after a bunch of things happen, make copy of passport and stamp (if you don't do this in Panama you are insane, I've been stopped a few times, the cops work with the cabs especially in Miami)... etc... Anyways, I'm out of vitamin V and I can't get it in the states, does anyone know a pharmacy I can hit really quick? I usually buy in bulk and only once bought in Panama City in the pharmacy that is on the street more or less perpendicular to Juanchos and Cotton Club. I'm sure there are few places, but is the pharmacy part open etc. Any help is hugely appreciated, especially if you know something open a bit later.

A-monger, if that is the same Marcella I know, she has amazing long hair and is insanely hot, and much older than I ever imagined, I thought she was 23 at first sight and have been back several times but often she is ordered before the place is open and she never hits the floor...

I'm in town next weekend if anyone wants to grab a drink at Habano's, downtime in between the craziness and I like to take my 2nd or third of the day home to the apt, then grab a drink at the veneto before heading to Boedgeuita and Juanchos... Panama's a party!![/QUOTE]Where do you go to get a copy of your passport?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Where do you go to get a copy of your passport?[/QUOTE]

i just meant make a photocopy of the page of the photo and a page with the entry stamp, if you don't have those two pages and your tourist card on you when the cops mess with you it's going to cost you. My hotel knows me by now, they make copies for me when i check in.

I make color copies before I travel, and I have scanned copies in an email I can access anywhere eg: Yahoo, hotmail, gmail.

[QUOTE=El Toro]My thing is that I like older women. I will be combining quick 4 day trips with more extended 2 week long stays over the next 2 years. My question is what are my options for:

A) Quick hit and runs: Are there a lot of Columbian/Panamanian MILFS available at the regular spots like Golden Times?

B)Non Pro girls: I would like to set up some type of Sugar Daddy situation with some older ladies. What is the best way to meet them? Should I run an ad? Use the internet? Ant hot spots for Cougars?[/QUOTE]


A) Habano's might be your best bet. GT has mostly younger women.

B) I prefer hookers, it's a lot less complicated. But Permanent Damage has written a series of reports on the subject. Just do a search under his username. Also I posted a link to one of his reports under Reports of Distinction.

Also check out the casinos, which can be good hunting grounds for both A and B. The Veneto might be best for pros, and El Panama for nonpros.

Most of the hookers at the regular spots are young. The majority are mothers.

[QUOTE=Bijou]I will be in PTY also from 2/20-2/24 and staying at Las Vegas Suites. If you want to have a beer and check the venues together, I'd be happy to. There is another person that is suppose to be there at around the same also.

Bijou[/QUOTE]I'm in PTY from 2/18 to 2/21, staying at Wyndham Veneto. Am also interested in getting a drink and/or checking out venues.

Salud!

Max

[QUOTE=El Toro]

B)Non Pro girls: I would like to set up some type of Sugar Daddy situation with some older ladies. What is the best way to meet them? Should I run an ad? Use the internet? Ant hot spots for Cougars?[/QUOTE]

An internet ad might be the most convenient, but if you have spanish skills, have a taxi take you to Albrook Mall during the weekend afternoons. Hang out at the food court. The place will be jam-packed with half-black latinas that are most common in Panama. That's the socio-economic class that would be most susceptible to a sugar daddy situation.

[QUOTE=Maximus Johnson]I'm in PTY from 2/18 to 2/21, staying at Wyndham Veneto. Am also interested in getting a drink and/or checking out venues.

Salud!

Max[/QUOTE]

Hehe, you are already in one of the main hunting grounds!! Just beware of the prey as it might rip your pocket out!

Max, Bijou

I will be staying at the Las Vegas Suites from 2/18-2/22 and 2/28-3/3.

Let's get together for drinks and whatever.

Veneto Casino (casino): is a good safe option, plenty of colombian girls, I was able to negotiate a good looking girl for all night action for $200, not bad.

No BBBJ or kissing, but she was goodlooking and was good in bed.

Taxis are little expensive compared to colombia.

From my hotel I paid $25 oneway

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Great wrap up, thanks! I'm headed there 12-16 March and was wondering if prices had changed in the year and a half since my last trip...seems not.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DetJunky]Veneto Casino (casino): is a good safe option, plenty of colombian girls, I was able to negotiate a good looking girl for all night action for $200, not bad.

No BBBJ or kissing, but she was goodlooking and was good in bed.

Taxis are little expensive compared to colombia.

From my hotel I paid $25 oneway[/QUOTE]

Panamá isn’t Las Vegas. The average price for high ranking hookers is $100.00, more than that is throwing your money to a garbage can.

After reading reviews

I visited GT last night,

went around 9:30 pm, found the place without a problem. I avoided the taxi surcharge by going to the Casino Fantastic as adviced by some fellows in the forum.

There were not too many options, it seems that after 9 pm the place is already full of customers. Anyway, saw the lineup and found some 6 girls. I would give most of them between a 6 and a 7 in looks.

Ended up with Veronica a girl from Cali ( a solid 7.5 for me). Thin girl, with a great "bunda". Good service, not too enthusiastic but enjoyed different positions and had a good time, ended with a nice massage that helped me relax. She was not rushing and was ok to chat with.

I will probably comeback because the price is not too high (84 dollars) and when leaving I saw some interesting girls in the entrance that were not in the lineup when I arrived(probably were busy when I arrived).

I will report any new experiences

Floyd , the girl is panamanian or colombian ?

[QUOTE=Floyd Dylan]I had wonderful take-out from Club Miami last night. And here are the details.

First, since no one seems to post exactly where these places are. Club Miami is one (long) block behind Casino Fantastic. The opposite direction from the big boulevard that Golden Time is on. It's just down the block from Crazy Horse, another strip club that looks intriguing (anyone know? )

There's no cover at Miami, plenty of girls, and usually at least one dancing. As soon as I had a beer in my hand, one started chatting me up and two minutes later wanted me to buy her a drink. Give a guy a chance to get settled!

Sensing an opening, a girl named Stephanie came over for a chat. She speaks English which is great, since my Spanish is not. Stephanie is great. Fun, flirty, beautiful in every way (honestly, I think she was the hottest one there). And REAL. You know what I mean. So many of them are just going through the motions, or don't have anything going on upstairs, or could care less about you, etc.

I bought her a couple of drinks ($12 each), she ground against me, and convinced me to buy her for the night. This is actually the first time I've done this. Usually I stick to in-call. But there was a definite connection there, and I wanted to take our time. It was not cheap. I had to pay the house $120 for her to leave, then $150 to her (initially she quoted $200, but quickly lowered it).

They have cabs waiting outside the club that know the girls, and vice versa. This is a smart way to protect the girls. I found out later that the same cabbie came to pick her up in the morning. The cab to downtown was ridculously overpriced at $10 but at this point that's a mere drop in the bucket, right? That money probably also covers her ride home, so we can take comfort in that.

I'll take a moment to give a shout-out to my hotel. Hotel Texaco, on Calle 31 between Avenida Cuba & Peru. I'm traveling on a budget these days, so I welcome places that are reasonably priced. $22/night, includes cable TV (w/ a porn channel, if that matters to you), clean bathroom, A/C. It's not luxury, but totally fine. Last week I stayed in Hotel Arrenciba (sp? ) a couple of blocks away, and it was super clean and modern for just $30/night. The area is full of them, you just have to pick a couple to look in. Oh, and all these places are friendly to "guests". They are quite used to it. In fact, I saw boxes of condoms by the front desk at two of them!

Anyway. We get settled in the room, and she is fun and frisky. She hasn't had sex since breaking up with her boyfriend a month ago (hard to believe, but I did. This chick is sincere if nothing else. She's also very selective.) She told me her real name (which I won't repeat here out of respect) and we chatted a bit. We stripped, had some nice kissing which you don't always get with professionals, so I appreciated that. I went down on her for a while and actually got her to cum, yes! I convinced her to blow me a bit sans condom (YMMV) which was nice, but pretty quickly she wanted me in her. The sex was really nice, it was a total GFE. She would get worn out or need to take a break or sleep, but was agreeable and accomodating when I gently pushed for "just one more".

We caught a couple of hours sleep before her phone rang. It was the cabbie, telling her to get up. Get this. Normally the girls work from 7pm until 6am each night. [Her mom thinks she works at a call center. ] She goes home to change, then goes to English classes from 9. 11 three days a week. Good grief.

Anyway, it was a lovely evening with a lovely woman. Treat her right gentlemen, and she will respond in kind.

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[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]Panamá isn’t Las Vegas. The average price for high ranking hookers is $100.00, more than that is throwing your money to a garbage can.[/QUOTE]

PTY Sexy, If she truly was "high ranking" or "a good looking girl" pulled from the Veneto Casino and she stayed all night, $200 is a good price. That would run $1000+ in Las Vegas.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]PTY Sexy, If she truly was "high ranking" or "a good looking girl" pulled from the Veneto Casino and she stayed all night, $200 is a good price. That would run $1000+ in Las Vegas.[/QUOTE]

Most of the hookers from Colombia will accept $100.00 most of the times when the time is right. I mean, after 2:00 a.m. the chances to score are very low so most of the times they will go for it.

Don’t call me PTY SEXY.

[QUOTE=Sexy Boy] Don’t call me PTY SEXY.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I won't abbreviate in the future. From now on, it's "PTY Sexy alias Sexy Boy":

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[QUOTE=Bolman]After reading reviews

I visited GT last night,

went around 9:30 pm, found the place without a problem. I avoided the taxi surcharge by going to the Casino Fantastic as adviced by some fellows in the forum.

There were not too many options, it seems that after 9 pm the place is already full of customers. Anyway, saw the lineup and found some 6 girls. I would give most of them between a 6 and a 7 in looks.

Ended up with Veronica a girl from Cali ( a solid 7.5 for me). Thin girl, with a great "bunda". Good service, not too enthusiastic but enjoyed different positions and had a good time, ended with a nice massage that helped me relax. She was not rushing and was ok to chat with.

I will probably comeback because the price is not too high (84 dollars) and when leaving I saw some interesting girls in the entrance that were not in the lineup when I arrived(probably were busy when I arrived).

I will report any new experiences[/QUOTE]Your Veronica from Cali...was she dark skinned with a really ridiculous ass...I mean to the point that it looks fake? If so, I think she's the one I had in Bogota in August.

Rodeo

Has anyone here had any luck with the girls at Hooters in Panama City?

Rodeo

That's a tough one. Hooters girls in Panama are closely monitored by management in terms of the girls not fraternizing too much with customers, or going out with them once their shift is done. Managmente wants a "family athosmofere" for the business. I was very friendly with one of the girls last year and she explained that to me, no I couldn't get her to go out with me.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Has anyone here had any luck with the girls at Hooters in Panama City?

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

Is the Marriott GF?

Woodman

I know there are some reports of travelers to P city later this week. I'll be at the Las vegas Suites 2/18 -2/22 and the following weekend.

Send me a PM to get together.

[QUOTE=Woodman]Is the Marriott GF?

Woodman[/QUOTE]

Yes.............

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Has anyone here had any luck with the girls at Hooters in Panama City?

Rodeo[/QUOTE]
Let me get this straight.......buy a plane ticket, pay for hotel stay in Panama, and go hit on the hooters girls..........wow! Interesting to say the least.

[QUOTE=Mangera]Let me get this straight. Buy a plane ticket, pay for hotel stay in Panama, and go hit on the hooters girls. Wow! Interesting to say the least.[/QUOTE]Don't be an ass, it's just another option. Maybe.

Anything going on in Panama City for Carnival.

I will be in town that week.

Hey I was looking at some flights from tampa to MDE and I found a flight from orlando to MDE ($305) great price that has a 11 hour layover mostly daytime hours (I would need to be back at the airport by 6pm to feel safe). Anyway to get to the mp and clubs. What would it cost, whould it be worth it, and any advice anyone could share. Is the area far from the airport? And has anyone tried this same thing? Thanks in advance on anyone who can advise me!

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Yes.............[/QUOTE]

Thanks Tiny 12!

Woodman

[QUOTE=Mangera]Let me get this straight.......buy a plane ticket, pay for hotel stay in Panama, and go hit on the hooters girls..........wow! Interesting to say the least.[/QUOTE]

A few years ago I got a bJ from a Hooters girl in Kalamazoo.

[QUOTE=Woodman]Is the Marriott GF?

Woodman[/QUOTE]

From what I hear, yes. Plus, I hope so since I've booked for the fall. According to their website they are under construciton all year.
Hoser

K A L A M A Z O O - Oh what a gal, in Kalamazoo!

[QUOTE=Hsd Dude]Anything going on in Panama City for Carnival.

I will be in town that week.[/QUOTE]

Panamenian carnival is much like the mardi gras, but on a country wide level. EVERYONE waits the whole frikin year just for those 4 days of wanton drinkin and debauchery!

In the capital, you will find mostly people ranging from middle low to low class. Not a very good bunch to be around, besides that, there are several stages in Via Transismica(improvised sambadrome like in brasil) that cover many different musical genres, many international artists but most of them are like salsa, merengue and the local artists mainly reggaeton music.
Upper middle to high class people go for the provinces. The main spots are Penonome, Ocu, Chitre, Santiago, Las Tablas. You will find people by the thousands. There are many other spots where people gather but those that I mentioned are the most popular.

The main thing during the day is to be at the Culecos(a huge water truck throwing water at people)drinking like there is no tomorrow.
During the evening, you can hang out at some closed but open aired spots where there are stages with artists and the like and of course more drinking.

Now as far as the PFP activities in the capital, they dont stop. You can find most(if not all of the establishments)open. This is a perfect time to arrive before or at the beginning of the carnival and go to your favorite mongering spot, get in touch with a girl a arrange day time encounters and take her for quick ride to the beach or the closest carnival stop to the city, Penonome and have a good time with her, you might get action for free if the girl likes you and if you offer to cover expenses for the trip, some of them might still be battle hardened pros and besides you covering the trip expenses might want extra for their services.

Just my 2 pennies but I think this pretty much sumarizes the action in carnival

Is there a Victoria's Secret in Panama City? If so, where?

Thanks,

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Slovenian]If you compare your report, Mumbai, with the one you quoted written by Popot1 in December 2007, there seems to a big difference in price range, so one wonders if this is the same establishment when you say that "this is the new address". Or were you writing about a different MP altogether and just quoting the previous report as a reference? Or have the prices actually trebled in one year?[/QUOTE]True, I tried this place only after reading Popot1's article. It seems they have hiked their rates. The same people was earlier located near Calangute. I had gone there once in the past and so could recognize the owner. I even verified this with them. But am not sure about the earlier name.

Rodeo, I'm almost sure they do not. A friend of mine in Mexico wanted to do something with them a couple of years ago, but they only had stores in the U.S. There are people in Mexico that go to the U.S. and buy at Victoria's Secret, then bring it back and sell in Mexico -- their stuff is really popular.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Rodeo, I'm almost sure they do not. A friend of mine in Mexico wanted to do something with them a couple of years ago, but they only had stores in the U.S. There are people in Mexico that go to the U.S. and buy at Victoria's Secret, then bring it back and sell in Mexico -- their stuff is really popular.[/QUOTE]I was told by a Panamanian girl that she is able to buy VS there. After doing some research after seeing your post, I found that there is a store called La Senza ([url]www.lasenza.com[/url]) that sells VS products abroad. In Latin America, they have stores in Panama and Colombia. However, I gather from the VS website that they only offer beauty products, and not lingerie at La Senza.

This is all pretty gay unless you realize the leverage that you can get with these girls with a few choice pieces of lingerie or body scents.

And that's one to grow on!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Anvil]I met one on the internet and went out with her off and on for a few months until I caught her tricking on the side. 19 and hot as hell. she got canned from hooters for being late too much - why she started turning tricks.[/QUOTE]I had luck at the Hooter's in Bogota. You'd be surprised what those girls will do for a Hooter's girl tank top with a popular US city printed on it. They're usually allowed to wear them at work as long as they are the same type that all the Hooters girls have to wear--white, lycra. I think it draws more attention to them by us gringos who think they are more traveled, thereby bringing in more tips.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Rodeo, I'm almost sure they do not. A friend of mine in Mexico wanted to do something with them a couple of years ago, but they only had stores in the U.S. There are people in Mexico that go to the U.S. and buy at Victoria's Secret, then bring it back and sell in Mexico -- their stuff is really popular.[/QUOTE]

yup! tiny's right, no Vicky here. Id be the first one to move right next to it just to setup my staging area!!

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Rodeo, I'm almost sure they do not. A friend of mine in Mexico wanted to do something with them a couple of years ago, but they only had stores in the U.S. There are people in Mexico that go to the U.S. and buy at Victoria's Secret, then bring it back and sell in Mexico -- their stuff is really popular.[/QUOTE]


I can confirm that there are no Vic. Sec. stores in Brazil, Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, Argentina, Peru, Mexico, or Venezuela.

[QUOTE=Anvil]I met one on the internet and went out with her off and on for a few months until I caught her tricking on the side. 19 and hot as hell. she got canned from hooters for being late too much - why she started turning tricks.[/QUOTE]

I don't want to catch any flack for saying this, but IMO Hooters girls are all 1/2 way to turning tricks anyways. Not much of a stretch.

[QUOTE=Hoser352]I don't want to catch any flack for saying this, but IMO Hooters girls are all 1/2 way to turning tricks anyways. Not much of a stretch.[/QUOTE]

Hoser, You are 100% 'Right On The Money'.

From a TheSmokingGun.com 2006 article: “In a federal lawsuit, Jarman Gray, a former assistant manager of an Alabama Hooters, charges that he was fired last year after complaining about comments made to employees by a female "visiting training manager." In his April 7 U.S. District Court complaint, a copy of which you'll find below, the 31-year-old Gray claims that a trainer named Cat told waitresses that they were "the ones with the pussys and you are in control because of that." Then she reportedly added, "If you need the extra money, go ahead and suck a dick or fuck a customer if the money is right."

You can read the whole article here:
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0414061hooters1.html[/url]


Hooters needs a New Marketing Line to increase business in these tough times; "Hooters, We Sell More Than JUST CHICKEN."

We've got a new diversion in Panama. Go to Hooters and see what we can screw and for how much. It's part of their job description to sit and flirt with the customers so it shouldn't be too difficult to set up a date. They've already been trained "to go ahead and suck a dick or fuck a customer if the money is right." It should be pretty easy to score a Hooters girl in Panama especially if you flash a couple Ben Franklins.

Just or the record. It think Hooters has shitty food. Their wings are greasy crap. These girls rarely get your order right so you might as well fuck them.

Hoser.

Hoser, you're cracking me up. But why hang out at Hooters? For the price of an order of greasy crap wings and a few beers, you can get two pieces of ass at Baro Boca Torena.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Hoser, you're cracking me up. But why hang out at Hooters? For the price of an order of greasy crap wings and a few beers, you can get two pieces of ass at Baro Boca Torena.[/QUOTE]

That's very true. When I go to Panama I"m going to check out both places.
But I'll need a "wing man" for Bare Baca Torena. Get it? "wing man" Ironically enough, no "wing man" required for Hooters. Plenty of greasy wings and tits in that place.

Hoser

[QUOTE=Woodman]Is the Marriott GF?

Woodman[/QUOTE]Yes the Marriot is girl friendly only they what her to sign in.

Or you can go thru the Casio door ,enter the Casino look to the back right.

Stairs leading up (no one stops you)go thru door will lead to Marriot second floor, small hallway, elevators to the right. Sometimes they post a guard in the hallway give him a smile and if he ask tell him you are a guest in the hotel, he doesn't care or speak much english so he won't ask much, luck.

This is trip report from my recent visit to PTY from 2/20-2/24. Thank you to all you guys that had posted updated information, which helped me plan this trip.

[b]Prelude[/b]:

This was my second trip to PTY. As a newbie to the hobby, my first trip last summer was to mainly "test the waters" at a time when I was going through a divorce. At that time, the trip was more of a vacation with a few chica experiences. As such, even though I read all the info on the boards, I made the same mistakes that most newbie’s make. On this visit, I was determined to be more "smart" about things. I am hoping to be able to take 5-6 short (4-5 day) trips each year to various destinations.

Unfortunately, it was only after finalizing my trip did I realize that it would be during carnival season and wasn’t sure what impact this would have in "supply/demand" and ultimately on prices. I contemplated postponing my trip, but I soooo needed a getaway, that I decided to go through with the trip. Going during carnival season has good and bad as you will read below.

Why Panama? Although not known for being a great mongering destination, the country is beautiful and PTY is a large metropolitan city, with English being spoken/understood widely. I wanted an opportunity to speak as much of my limited Spanish as I could, but having English to fall back on if I needed. Ultimately, I wanted to know how far my Spanish could carry me should I venture out to strictly Spanish speaking countries.

[b]Travel Logistics[/b]:

Tocumen Airport (Panama’s International airport), is a really easy airport to navigate. Two pieces of advice: First, have a pen handy. You will need to fill out forms when getting down to immigration and for some reason, you can’t seem to find a pen at the airport when you need one. Second, you will need to get your tourist visa ($5) and fill out the immigration form as well as the customs form BEFORE you get to the immigration stands. There is a desk area at the bottom of the escalator to get the tourist visa and the immigration form (if the airline doesn’t supply these to you).

Taxi to the El Cangrejo area (where most of the action is and where Venetto is) should run you no more than $25 INCLUDING the $2. 65 in tolls for using the expressway (recommended). It can be lower depending on your negotiation skills. I followed the advice of a previous post of taking the escalator back up stairs after going through immigration and taking a taxi that is dropping someone off. I negotiated $20 and then as we were driving, he wanted me to pay extra to cover the tolls for using the "autopista" (expressway). I ended up giving him $25.

Know taxi rates! Most areas locally should run you $1-$2. A good strategy (especially if your Spanish is limited and don’t know your way around) is for you to offer $3. Most times, taxi drivers will accept it because it’s more than what they normally would get. If you ask "how much", that is already an indication to the diver that you are a newbie and they will ask for $5 or $10 to go a block. DON"T EVER get into a taxi without setting the price up front!

[b]Lodging[/b]:

I stayed at the Las Vegas Suites ([url]www.lasvegaspanama.com[/url]). I emailed them ahead of time to see what "special rates" they could offer me and ended up paying $60/night including taxes for a "studio" (their website says their lowest rate is $77). You can feel comfortable booking online and putting what ever special rate they give you into the "notes" section of the online submission form. The front desk folks speak English and are pretty cool. Hotel is chica friendly.

I would strongly recommend this place. It is just a few steps from the Venetto (see below) and you can easily walk to some of the other locations listed. There is a great Italian restaurant within Las Vegas. On my first visit, I stayed at the Venetto and quickly learned that you don’t need to pay double or triple the price just to sleep and fuck. So, wanting to be "smarter" this time so I can take more frequent trips, I decided to try Las Vegas. $180 a night (with taxes) at Venetto or $60 a night at Las Vegas? Easy decision.

The "studio" is like a large apartment with a television, mini fridge and microwave. They do have secure wireless Internet access in each of the rooms. Towels get changed, beds get made, and the room gets cleaned every day. There are safes in the rooms at no charge. They provide soap and toilet paper, but the rest of the toiletries, you need to have. The only negatives are that the hot water wasn’t very hot or with pressure and my room was noisy from the street, but not bad enough for me to ask for a different room. If you are a light sleeper, you may need to bring something to help you sleep. Also, would recommend something to play music, whether it is an alarm radio, or just your laptop with some CDs. I would stay here again without hesitancy.

[b]My Rating Scale[/b]:

In a nutshell, I am attracted to the "girl next door" look with a nice ass and stomach and all natural (no silicone). So, my rating scale is based on this.

10’s: there are no "10s" on my rating scale (when I’m sober). This is a discussion for another time. 9’s: These are the "hot" chicks like you see on Victoria Secret’s and on Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. You easily notice them out from across the room. 8’s: These are the "pretty" girls (minimal makeup) with nice bodies (all natural) including nice ass and breasts. You notice them when they walk by. 7’s: These are "attractive" girls (maybe a little bit more makeup) with a nice ass, but maybe lacking in breasts. I am an ass man, so a girl could be attractive, have a great ass, but very small breasts and still be a "7" on my scale. I am very generous with my "7" rating. These are the girls that are attractive when you start talking to them. You notice they may either have nice eyes, a nice smile, full lips, pretty hair etc. 6’s: These are the "not ugly" girls with a nice ass with or without nice breasts. These girls are doable (without alcohol) and I would have nothing to be ashamed about if anybody found out. 5’s or lower: I would never do sober, I would hope that no one ever found out and most likely I would just want a BJ.

[b]Chica Venues[/b]: My original goal was to visit every venue I could, just to check it out. However, because it was carnival, some places were dead or closed.

[you]Venetto[/you]:

My, oh my! First night, the place was full of chicas that were available. You feel like a celebrity or a king when you can just walk around and have girls just smile at you with a "please pick me" look. The good news was that there were maybe about 50-70 chicas in the casino area by the bar of all shapes, sizes, and looks. The bad news was that they all started at $150 for 1 hour. Some would be willing to negotiate down to $100 but still for only 1 hour. Some didn’t budge from the $150. A few did offer to go for $80. Good time to visit Venetto is between 7-10pm and then later in the night if you haven’t hooked up elsewhere. Also, I think that the Venetto management sometimes restricts the number of girls into the casino b/c it seemed to alternate each night as to the number available from 50-70 on one night and then only a dozen or so another other night. I would think that the reason for this was that since the hotel and casino is geared for families, they couldn’t just allow working chicas and potential clients to over run the place. So, you may find on one night the number of chicas to be few and on another night, to be many.

[you]Habano’s[/you]:

My, oh my again! This is the little cigar bar, across from the Mariott and walking distance from the Veneto. See above for the Venetto, including the pricing. Good time to visit between 9- 11pm. No cover but not open on Sundays.

[you]Bodequita[/you]:

My, oh my third time! This is a late hours hang out joint. It is walking distance from the above, but it is a long walk. Unless you know here you are going, it may best to take a taxi ($1-$2). $5 cover includes a drink. Plays music, is dark and loud. I don’t think it’s open on Sundays. The pricing was still the same for chicas as above, although if it is late into the night, the chicas may be more open to negotiating. Good place to go around 12am-onwards.

Other posters have referred to a "circuit" for the chicas. You will see the same faces in all three of the above places. Chicas may start at either Habanos or Venetto and then end up at Bodequita, until they hookup or go home empty handed.

[you]Cristal Moon, Elite, Le Palace[/you]:

All the strip clubs were dead due to carnival. I went to Cristal moon b/c an early post said there was a great girl on girl show, but I didn’t see anything interesting. Cover was $30 for all you can drink, so I drank all I could. I went to Elite. Paid $25 cover no drinks included. Again, the club was somewhat dead and really no hot girls. I went to Le Palace near closing time (around 4am) to see if I could pull something out without having to pay the house fee. The entrance was free, but was quoted $300 without the house fee! No thanks. There was too much silicone in Le Place to interest me.

[you]La Mayor/Boca Torena[/you]:

I wanted to go to these two joints after reading some earlier posts, but La Mayor was closed for carnival. Boca Torena is right next to La Mayor and reminds me of a border town place. There was only 1 girl that caught my attention, the rest weren’t my type, but again, I don’t know what effect that it being carnival had on quality. I would strongly recommend that you have a trusted taxi driver come inside and have a beer with you if you visit either of these two places b/c they aren’t in the best places of town. Entrance was free and beers cost $2-$3.

[you]Capri (Rio Abajo area): [/you]

Actually, a very nice strip club with onsite rooms. Apparently this club caters more to the locals. There were some cuties with the "girl next door" look and more "natural" than Le Palace. Night time shift begins around $7pm. $3 entrance and beers run about $3-$4. I think it was $42 for 25 minutes. Didn’t partake, but would go back when visiting PTY again. (This is not the same "Capri" as above Oasis near the Veneto).

[you]Club Miami[/you]:

Again, dead with low quality. I didn’t stay very long. No entrance fee, but beers were $9! I went with a taxi driver and I’m sure there is some sort of kickback. Strip club that actually have girls dancing, which is somewhat a rarity from the other clubs. There are rooms onsite and I believe that it was around $90 for 1 hour, all –inclusive. In my previous visit to PTY, I really enjoyed Miami Club, but I think the carnival festivities may have taken away some of the quality (and it was a Monday).

[you]Massage Parlors[/you]:

This really isn’t my thing since I like to build up a rapport with the girl. I did call a few from the phone book (same ones listed on various posts) and the rates seemed to be the same. I did walk into Oaisis (near the Venetto), but the quality wasn’t all that and the enthusiasm was much less. As a note though, I did look at some of the rooms and there are rooms with beds (instead of massage tables) and they seemed to be nice.

[you]Street Scene[/you]:

Street scene was mostly dead. I don’t know if the police cleaned up the streets for carnival.

[b]Other Activities[/b]:

I visited Vera Cruz on a Sunday. It is an area of restaurants along the beach just across the Bridge of Americas, about a 20-30 minute ride from the Veneto area ($5-$7 taxi ride). In an earlier post, it was indicated that this was an area where locals go on a Sunday. On this particular day (again maybe b/c of carnival), there wasn’t a lot of cuties. Still, it was a nice place to sit by the water, have a beer and good food. There are several restaurants along this area, some look better than others. Have the taxi driver keep driving along the "strip" until you find a place that suits you. Also, you may consider having the driver wait for you since getting a taxi back may be some what difficult (although not impossible). Although the beach area had some debris, the water looked clean enough that I would have gone in if I had my swim shorts. Several of the locals were playing in the water and didn’t seem to worry about the quality of the water. Another option is Santa Clara beach about 1. 5 hrs away, but I didn’t go.

I went to two malls and hung out one afternoon. The Multiplaza is more "upscale" and a little further away and the Multicentro is closer. I just went to people watch and yes, there were some cuties in both malls.

[b]Miscellaneous[/b]:

Police shakedown is a nuisance, so have your tourista visa and a copy of your passport with you at all times. The police are looking to make an extra few bucks by shaking you down. I was stopped and asked for my visa, which I had on me and gave to the police, but he still tried to find something wrong with it. I speak enough Spanish to let him know that my visa is correct and that I am willing to go to immigration right now (4am) with him if he wanted. He let me go.

Overall, I felt safe in PTY, even at 4am and walking to some of the aforementioned places. Just be smart about it.

A trusted taxi driver who speaks English is a good asset. I would recommend "Tony", who is normally in front of the Ventto. Be careful when asking for "Tony" though b/c it seems that every taxi driver in front of the Venetto is named "Tony". The cell phone of the Tony I’m referring to is: 650 736 21. He will try to get his money for his time, but he is less abrasive than others. Again, negotiate before you get in with him. I have used him on both my trips to PTY.

[b]Summary[/b]:

Going to PTY at carnival has both good and bad. I would venture to say that there were more "semi-pros" and freelancers available, some coming in from various parts of Panama just for the event and trying to make a few bucks. However, the prices caught me off guard. I’m not sure if it was just because of "supply-demand" or if this was just the norm in PTY now. Also, the clock watching was annoying. Lastly, some were willing to do BBJs, but others were absolutely only CBJs. One offered anal. There were so many Colombianas in PTY from all parts of Colombia. However, they also seemed to be more about the business ($$). I particularly liked the Panamanian chicas who seemed to care more about providing good service. I practiced enough of my Spanish to venture into Colombia next.

Next on the itinerary. Cartagena!

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Very good report Bijou.

I think it has to be mentioned that carnival is probably the most anticipated event of the year in Panama. This may have affected the availability of chicas in most establishments since I'm sure more than a few of them decide to just go somewhere and party, like most locals do.

I arrived in PTY yesterday morning from San Jose, Costa Rica and had my business completed by 7 PM. Prior to my trip I determined from ISG members that two of the better venues were Venetto and Habano’s for my specific desires. I am staying at the Marriott, so I knew both were within walking distance. Actually, Habano’s is within crawling distance.

Venetto
I arrived around 8:30 PM and found a number of girls had already arrived, I would say they were between 6-8 on the standard scale. Since it was early, I decided to have a drink over by the Sports Betting area and observed who was presenting themselves. There must have been 30-40 girls in the casino area at this time. Suddenly a pure 9 sat about thirty feet from me - no doubt the best looking girl in the casino - with dark hair, about 5’8” with a fabulous rack. I watched as 2-3 guys approached her and also watched as they departed. After watching this for about 30 minutes, I smiled at her when she looked my way. I then patted the table to indicate she should join me. We exchanged the normal pleasantries, and I found her name is Jacqueline; she was 23, from Costa Rice (San Jose where I just came from). She had a great smile, carried on an above average conversation, and was pretty fun to be with, I bought her a drink, and we sat and talked for about another 30 minutes.

I am a very average 50+ guy, but I am able to carry on a decent conversation. I have found that goes a very long way with women, especially if you show them that you are interested in them as a person – not just their merchandise. She told me she was only in PTY for a short period of time as she worked in one of the strip club in San Jose – I can’t remember which one. She also shared with me that someone in San Jose is building a new club where she intends to work when she returned - again I don’t recall the name. She finally got around to asking where I was staying, and asked if I would like some company. My negotiation skills are OK, and I am certainly not a Tom Cruise look-a-like. Like I said before I am average 50+ guy. The reason I bring this up is because the next question to her was, “How much”? The reply was $300. Rather than just blow her off for such a ridiculous starting point I have found that “respectful humor” works much better. My reply was with a smile, “For how many days?” She smiled back and after about 5-10 minutes more, we settled on $100 for one pop. Before leaving I made sure we defined all that would be included: BBBJ? (CBJ only), DATY? – yes, multiple positions ?(all except anal), etc. Again with humor I asked if it took three hours for the “pop” would she be OK with that?

I had considered going through the Casino and going the back way to my room to avoid the walk through the lobby. On the two block walk from the Venetto to the Marriott we discussed this and she said they would probably just ask for her ID and want to note it – which she didn’t have a problem with. We walked directly through the front door, and not a word from any of the staff other than “Good Evening”.

Once in my room, she reveled that her rack was 100% natural, and her figure was better than I had imagined. Pussy was clean shaven, and no tattoos. Before me was a woman who was a 9 in every respect. Simple caressing lead the menu of items. I am a believer that you should get them hot if you really want good service, so we started with about 10-15 minutes of DATY, which lead to my CBJ. I am not a big fan of CBJ – and this was really no different than my other CBJ experiences. We are now 30 minutes into the action, and I have the distinct feeling that she would like to move on to the main act. Needless to say we started the main act, then went back to more DATY and CBJ in between the various positions. About 35 minutes later I could hold it no longer and blew my load. Overall, Jacqueline was OK. I wouldn’t probably repeat, because I like the variety.

My summary is that if you can't find talent at Venetto - there is something wrong with you. The selection is pretty fantistic, and you will of course have various outcomes - depending on what you invest. The take away here is that NEVER pay the opening asking price, but pay what you feel the girl is worth. You can always give her an extra tip as she leaves if you get outstanding service.

Another report on HABANO’S will follow as this has gotten way to long.

WOODMAN

Almost forgot to report my scouting of the countryside during this past carnival.

Went to Ocu, which is in the province of Herrera, around 200km from the capital.
Drove friday during the afternoon and I remembered there is a brothel in the way called Mocambo, located in the town of Aguadulce.
Made the stop, no cover, many girls, around 10-20. Was only able to spot 2-3 average to good looking.
Price for beer is .80 cents!!!! Didnt have too many since I was driving, but it was worth the trip just for the info gathering. Included is a pic of the signpost

this for the hooters haters & lovers. These are from a bike carwash that some guys from the local bike owners frat organized some weeks ago

On my second to last night in PTY, I decided a visit to Habanos was in order. Most of what I read on the forum gave it high marks, but I wanted to see for myself. Earlier that evening I had been to Veneto, and brought Jacqueline back to the Marriott, but the temptation of Habanos directly opposite the Marriott was too much.

First, women outnumbered men by at least 4 to 1! I saw more 7's, 8's, and 9's than I have seen anywhere. There may have been a couple 10's, but at that level, the numbering system is very subjective. Most of my activities have been in Asia (Indonesia, Bangkok, Manila, Singapore, Shanghai, and Hong Kong) so I am used to being surrounded by pretty significant "eye candy". What I saw at Habanos was beyond description. I was truly astounded at what I saw. Probably 50-60 women in every shape of body, and tits (both natural and enhanced), hair color, and women that truly had my tongue out. Since I had two pops earlier, I thought I would check the place out for a possible revisit the following night.

About 70% of the women were out on the front porch area, and the rest were either in the back bar area or in the pool table area. I immediately went to the back bar area and ordered a drink. I was the only guy at the bar, and surrounded by four of the most beautiful women. I sat down and the blond girl on my left (Sara) introduced herself. Then the red-head girl on my right (Mari) also introduced herself. We talked for about 15 minutes, when I decided it was time for a smoke. Sara asked if she could join me - of course she could. As we talked more she asked if I was with someone - reply: just Sara at the moment. She had a great sense of humor and spoke very good English. She is from Columbia, and told me probably 90% of the women there were from Columbia. She told me that she lived in Hong Kong for about six months, so we had more things in common to talk about. She had a smokin body with what I judged to include enhanced breasts with a very sexy v-neck top. I complimented her on her fine melons and she shared with me that she used to be a 34, but now she is a 36. Small waist and probably 37-38" hips.

After talking with this hot blond for almost an hour, the conversation turned to what were my plans for the rest of the evening. I told her I was beat (not why I was beat), but I would love to hook up with her tomorrow. She said she understood, but she gave a great massage and would love to join me to demonstrate her skills. I then asked her what this "great massage" was going to cost, and her reply shocked me! I was expecting $250-$300 as I was quoted earlier from Jacqueline. She said, I know you are probably tired, so just pay me what you think the massage is worth. We had really connected with our conversation, and she was really fun to be with, and we were both enjoyed the evening. Too much enjoyment for this monger to pass on, so I said "why not". We finished our drinks and walked across the street to the Marriott.

Again, I was expecting to be stopped between the front doors and the elevators, but to my great delight not a word or glance delayed our trip to the elevator. Once in my room, she immediately revealed the most gorgeous set of tits I have seen in many years of this great hobby. Since I had two pops earlier I was expecting my performance might leave much to be desired by both Sara and me. I couldn't resist her clean shaven pussy that was small and visually exciting, so we started with DATY. She reciprocated with one of the better BBBJ's that I have experienced in recent memory. This went on for about 20-25 minutes and I could tell by the way she arched her back that she was experiencing the big "O". She then whispered that she wanted to be fucked - NOW! She asked if I had a condom, but before I could answer, whipped one out and on. I obliged her request, and to my relief was on to my third pop of the evening. This was followed by a true massage that was everything she advertised. Total GFE in every aspect.

I LOVE PANAMA!!!! We ended up spending over 90 minutes together in my room experiencing pure bliss. After a brief shower together, and she was dressing, I asked her how much she would like. Again her answer surprised me. "Give me what you think the massage was worth, the rest of what we did was my gift to you." I gave her $100, and she said it was more than she expected, but thanked me. I LOVE PANAMA!!! Actually, I love Habanos. That bar is by far the best bar for the hobby I have ever visited. That includes the bars in Bangkok, the LA Cafe in Manila, BATS in Jakarta, Fenwick's in Hong Kong, and the Shanghai Sauna.

WOODMAN

I'm headed to PTY this Thursday for 5 days. I've done a ton of research thus far and have a few lingering questions:

- What day of the week is Habano's closed? I think I remember it was some obscure day in the middle of the week, right?

- When (time) does Golden Times close and what days are they closed, if any?

- I read about an escort site on another board that seemed to be highly recommended: [url]www.elcomplaciente.com[/url]. Has anyone had any experiences (positive or negative) with them that they can offer? The pics look phenomenal and all reports are that they are real photos of some great performers.

- Are there any actual brothels/casas in PTY? Something along the lines of a home where the girls are a little more refined, maybe pool tables, couches, TVs, possibly food being served. Looking for something beyond the drive by drink, look and fuck--something that offers a more casual, almost non-pro experience.

- Are there any hangouts (like bowling, skating, pool halls, etc), outside of Calle Uruguay where there is a large concentration of non-pro/semi-pro girls that hang out (besides the mall) in a social setting?

- Are there any gyms in the el Cangrejo, Banking District area that one might find some of the more fit ladies?

- Where is the closest movie theater to the Veneto Casino?

- Where is the best and closest beach to Panama city and how long would it take to get there (distance and time)?

I think that's it! Thanks in advance.

Rodeo

A big while ago I posted about a provider named annette, well lost her phone and all that, but she either seems to have returned to the game or I ran lucky and ran into her the other night near Hotel Granada(which seems to be now the new staging area. Attached a pic, pm for contact!

Gents,

What is the difference (and locations) between:

Capri and Capri II

and

Elite and Elite II

Thanks,

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gents,

What is the difference (and locations) between:

Capri and Capri II

and

Elite and Elite II

Thanks,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

there is only 1 elite, there other was literally burned down under suspicious situations.

As far as capri, I think the only difference is the locations and probably the prices, as I think they opened it to try to capitalize on the hotels in the vicinity, I havent gone to the one in venetto yet. It doesnt appeals to me

Rodeo,

As far as I know, Habano's is closed only on Sunday. It least when I was there the last time.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]I'm headed to PTY this Thursday for 5 days. I've done a ton of research thus far and have a few lingering questions:

- What day of the week is Habano's closed? I think I remember it was some obscure day in the middle of the week, right?

- When (time) does Golden Times close and what days are they closed, if any?

- I read about an escort site on another board that seemed to be highly recommended: [url]www.elcomplaciente.com[/url]. Has anyone had any experiences (positive or negative) with them that they can offer? The pics look phenomenal and all reports are that they are real photos of some great performers.

- Are there any actual brothels/casas in PTY? Something along the lines of a home where the girls are a little more refined, maybe pool tables, couches, TVs, possibly food being served. Looking for something beyond the drive by drink, look and fuck--something that offers a more casual, almost non-pro experience.

- Are there any hangouts (like bowling, skating, pool halls, etc), outside of Calle Uruguay where there is a large concentration of non-pro/semi-pro girls that hang out (besides the mall) in a social setting?

- Are there any gyms in the el Cangrejo, Banking District area that one might find some of the more fit ladies?

- Where is the closest movie theater to the Veneto Casino?

- Where is the best and closest beach to Panama city and how long would it take to get there (distance and time)?

I think that's it! Thanks in advance.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GauntMan]As far as capri, I think the only difference is the locations and probably the prices, as I think they opened it to try to capitalize on the hotels in the vicinity, I havent gone to the one in venetto yet. It doesnt appeals to me[/QUOTE]

I went to the Veneto location once -- it sucked -- six or seven ugly women. I don't remember the price, but what I was quoted was higher than the other location.

Rodeo, Habanos is closed on Sundays. GT opens at 7:30 PM and closes really late, I think about 4:00 AM. Closest movie theater -- I'm not sure, but I've always gone to Multicentro, the mall on Balboa across the street from Radison, which has maybe 8-10 screens. I don't really have any good suggestions for places other than malls to hang out looking for women. I've never hung out around the national university, but it's located just west of downtown, within walking distance of Cangrejo. About beaches, are you planning on spending the night or a day trip? If you're overnighting my first choice would be Playa Blanca. The all inclusive hotel there used to be a Barcelo. Second choice, which is cheaper and also all inclusive, would be Decameron. Santa Clara beach in this area is a good destination for a day trip, and has a couple of beach restaurants/bars and a lot of people on weekends. All of these are 2 to 2-1/2 hours from the city. Coronado beach is decent and closer in, maybe 1-1/2 hours from Panama City. To my knowledge, there aren't any decent beaches close to the city. If you go to the beach I'd recommend renting a car -- it's going to be less hassle and more comfortable than taking the bus. Don't rent from Avis -- I've had problems with three of their cars. My experiences with Hertz were mixed and the one time I used Thrifty all went well.

El Complaciente has been established for a while as a bait and switch operation.
[QUOTE=Want To [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]]Man is right,

El Complaciente is a escort service that is a joke. They only have two or three girls, and they are old *****s that used to work at one of the clubs in the city. He uses the bait and switch all the time. The girls that you see on the web site are false, they are only models that pose for the web site, then you get another chick. Notice how you cannot see the faces at all, it is a joke. He will tell you that the girl that you want is not available, and they are always not available. He only has one or three girls working, and they always hang out at the miramar hotel, or cocos bar before they come to you. >they search for clients at the bar, then wait for the call from there pimp.

In conclusion, El Complaciente is a rip off and a waste of time. Go to one of the clubs and you will be much more happy.

Want to P[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GauntMan]there is only 1 elite, there other was literally burned down under suspicious situations.

As far as capri, I think the only difference is the locations and probably the prices, as I think they opened it to try to capitalize on the hotels in the vicinity, I havent gone to the one in venetto yet. It doesnt appeals to me[/QUOTE]Where is the non-Veneto Capri location?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Where is the non-Veneto Capri location?[/QUOTE]It is in the "Rio Abajo" area of PTY, about a $2-$3 cab ride from Venetto/Mariott area. Nice club and chicas. I would stongly recommend that you consider having the taxi driver wait for you. Although the area didn't look dangerous, taxis to go back seemed to be too few and far in between.

[QUOTE=Bijou]It is in the "Rio Abajo" area of PTY, about a $2-$3 cab ride from Venetto/Mariott area. Nice club and chicas. I would stongly recommend that you consider having the taxi driver wait for you. Although the area didn't look dangerous, taxis to go back seemed to be too few and far in between.[/QUOTE]

you should not pay more than $2 for the cab. At the capri there's a $3 cover charge, no free drinks with it, beers are $3.15, but you might want to get a pitcher for $5.
Time with the girls is $36 per 15mins(damn them!! they raised the price to locals from $15 to $21 and to foreigners the price is even higher, but dont know if higher than $36)
The quality of the girls will not dissapoint you

Okay, so, I'm halfway through my trip and here's what I've done so far:

- Apartment/condo: Great spot! Overlooks half of the city, a piece of ocean and a part of the mountains/hills. 3br, 2baths for $130/nt. Better rate than you can get a Veneto or Marriott unless you have reward points.

- Habanos: got 3 phone numbers of girls for future rendezvous; I could have easily took one right then and there, but that would have ruined me for the night.

- Veneto: went there as soon as I left my apartment first day, ended up being around 8-9pm; OUTSTANDING selection. Better than I remember when I stayed at Veneto 2 years ago. Although I have to say, the girls seemed to be a little particular about who they were going with; I didn't try any of them at the time, but, I definitely saw them trending toward older, white haired gentlemen versus younger or latin guys. Likely the perception of more money. I saw one chica that I actually thought was a normal girl because she was hanging with a guy and gambling at the roulette table, but then I noticed she started looking at me and smiling alot. She was built like a brick house, but its a little hard to tell if it was some kind of body shaper or her real shape. Made small talk, found out she was from Colombia, that was the giveaway. Got the number and would've called last night if it weren't for the SIM Card issue I had. Maybe will call tomorrow or later tonight.

- LePalace: went here looking for my amiga from Bogota; soon as I walked in I forgot all about her. No surprise, some real stunners here. I spoke with 3 girls, all from Cali or Medellin, none of which wanted to make plans for outside of LePalace, my guess, just not interested in me for whatever reason. No sweat off my balls. I decided to do a circuit around the place to see all the girls and on my way back, as luck would have it, I saw a girl from behind who had one of "those" asses (as if they weren't all over, right). As it happened, she turned around and I'll be damned if it wasn't my amiga from Bogota! We had the biggest, longest hug and got reacquainted. Without prompting, she gave me her number for plans the next day. Came by shortly before she had to go to work (about 4 hours) and fucked like bunnies. I gave her the gifts I bought for her and she let me know that another girl I liked from Bogota was also at LePalace and she would probably be glad to see me. I figure I'll go back there tonight to see if I can find her.

- Bodeguita: hit up one chica from Bodeguita after ditching at girl that had the nerve to ask for $300 at 2am. I laughed her off and kept moving. I was in the mood for something petite with a big, fluffy ass. The one I ended up going with fit the bill and she was a winner. We fucked on and off for about 4 hours for $100 and she had me cum 5 times! If it weren't for my new year's resolution to try new things I would have kept her for the rest of my time. She kept a smile on her face the whole time and was great. A diamond in the rough at Bodeguita. Second night, I ended up getting a girl from Bodeguita that I met at Habanos. My phone SIM was locked (had to wait till morning to get the code from the apartment manager) and I couldn't call her, which is why I was at Bodeguita that night in the first place. She was fighting off some fat ass Panamanian dude who was trying to French kiss her and was sooooo relieved to see me. Her ass was sick, which is why I got her number in the first place and she performed brilliantly back at the crib.

- Golden Times: Wrote down about 6 girls that I wanted to get to know. Ruled out 2, brought one home. She was great; got a phone number from one. She came over today and I almost broke her back (nice thick ass made for doggystyle)! She knocked $50 off the price for a Victoria's Secret travel bag that I got for $7 off the internet! I may call her back again. We'll see.

- Non-Pro: been in touch with one girl since my last trip. We went to the movies once and went out to eat once. She's got a cold so won't kiss me, but likes to rub all over and stuff, so I don't know. I'm trying to work this right, because her ass is just ridiculous, but, I don't want to scare her off. So far, my advances have kinda been pushed away, luckily she works at night so I can for the most part, still do my deviant activities! She's got 2 more nights!

- La Mayor/Boca Torena: I should be going there today. I'll let you know!

I've only eaten. Food 3 times since I've been here. Is that bad? Who has time to eat when there's so much ass to be had? !

Rodeo out!

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Any idea if the Sheraton Hotel on 77 Calle and san Francisco is girl friendly?
Is the hotel close to any casinos or other action?

If I'm not mistaken there is a casino in the hotel itself. Don't know if you will find WG there, though. As for being girl-friendly my memory is the entrance is wide open and you just hit the elevators without anyone asking you where you are going. The desk is by the levetors but if you use the fron entrance it would be after the elevators, so no need to get to it. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Parker674]If I'm not mistaken there is a casino in the hotel itself. Don't know if you will find WG there, though. As for being girl-friendly my memory is the entrance is wide open and you just hit the elevators without anyone asking you where you are going. The desk is by the levetors but if you use the fron entrance it would be after the elevators, so no need to get to it. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the help, their web site does not show a casino. I understand the Sheraton is about a 10 minute cab ride to the Marriott where tha action appears to be. Do you know if there is any action around the Sheraton?
Thanks

[QUOTE=Johntodd]Thanks for the help, their web site does not show a casino. I understand the Sheraton is about a 10 minute cab ride to the Marriott where tha action appears to be. Do you know if there is any action around the Sheraton?
Thanks[/QUOTE]No, there's no action in that area but it is indeed a very short ride to the Marriott area where the action is. If you take the bit of the highway in front of the Sheraton you'd be in the center in 5 minutes at night (avoid peak hours).

Which Casino is considered the best for finding tallent?
I see where the Sheraton Convention Center Hotel has a casino. From my reading Veneto Casino has local tallent.

There's this global recession going on with the U.S and Europe pretty hard hit. Prices are falling on everything in other parts of the world its time they start falling in Panama too.

Does any regular Panama visitors have any insight into whether the mongering scene has been affected by the falling dollar and euro? And have prices in Le Palace and GT'S been adjusted accordingly? I find it hard to believe that overseas mongers in Panama for a visit are paying the same as last 2 years.

[QUOTE=Johntodd]Which Casino is considered the best for finding tallent?
I see where the Sheraton Convention Center Hotel has a casino. From my reading Veneto Casino has local tallent.[/QUOTE]

If you're talking pros, the Veneto is the best by far.

[QUOTE=Sato San]There's this global recession going on with the U.S and Europe pretty hard hit. Prices are falling on everything in other parts of the world its time they start falling in Panama too.

Does any regular Panama visitors have any insight into whether the mongering scene has been affected by the falling dollar and euro? And have prices in Le Palace and GT'S been adjusted accordingly? I find it hard to believe that overseas mongers in Panama for a visit are paying the same as last 2 years.[/QUOTE]Have been there recently and there is no drop in prices. The reasons might be more simple than can be imagined:

1. Recession/crisis is not felt yet. Even though it eventually will, for now the country is just growing less.

2. US dollar is the legal currency in Panama since long, long ago. If it goes down there is no effect on prices internally. Unless they start exporting those services, that is. lol

Sorry mate, but your bucks are not going to take further than usual in PTY.

Cheers Parker.

[QUOTE=Sato San]There's this global recession going on with the U.S and Europe pretty hard hit. Prices are falling on everything in other parts of the world its time they start falling in Panama too.

Does any regular Panama visitors have any insight into whether the mongering scene has been affected by the falling dollar and euro? And have prices in Le Palace and GT'S been adjusted accordingly? I find it hard to believe that overseas mongers in Panama for a visit are paying the same as last 2 years.[/QUOTE]I don't think that you can expect downward price adjustments at Le Palace or at GT since they are fixed establishments. I have just come back from a quick trip in Panama, and GT seemed busy enough. However, one of their top girls indicated to me that business has been "a little bit" slow in terms of foot traffic. Add the fact that they now have a full complement of girls, and incomes for the individual girls is certainly not as good as it was before. Nevertheless, I don't think that you will see a drop in their prices. I have been paying the same price at GT since 2002 when I first started going there and I hope to be paying the same price in the future.

A better place to see rising/falling prices may be in the freelancers working at the different bars and casinos, rather than the girls that work in the clubs. Unfortunately, I don't regularly frequent those spots so I can't comment on those.

When I was in Baro Boca Torena Last month some of the girls were asking for 12 or up to 14 dollars for sex thats up from the going rate of ten dollars. We got to bet them down just say no to rate increases.

I will be in Panama over Easter weekend. For planning purposes, can anyone advise which (if any) nights (Thursday, Good Frirday, Sat, Easter) the scene is pretty well shut down?

[QUOTE=Birds]I will be in Panama over Easter weekend. For planning purposes, can anyone advise which (if any) nights (Thursday, Good Frirday, Sat, Easter) the scene is pretty well shut down?[/QUOTE]It will probably be like this: Thursday all may close at midnight. Friday all will be closed for sure. Saturday and Sunday will be ok, but perhaps not with a wide choice. Freelancers at casinos may be a better option for Thursday and Friday. Those guys never close.

A couple of years ago the only place that would open at midnight on Friday (Viernes Santo) was Miami. It was a pretty good night for me since there were not many clients and the girls decided to make it more like a party night than a regular one. It was good.

I might be around on a forced stop in Panama city on April 10 (Viernes Santo). PM me if you would like to meet or something.

In the City almost all the clubs will close due to a government restriction on drinking. Most of the people go to the beach.

[QUOTE=Birds]I will be in Panama over Easter weekend. For planning purposes, can anyone advise which (if any) nights (Thursday, Good Frirday, Sat, Easter) the scene is pretty well shut down?[/QUOTE]

I recently visited Panama City, was surprised the US Dollar was the currency they use.
Day 1, Stayed at the Sheraton Convention Center, took a cab to Fantastic Casino, no tallent, around 7:00p walked to Miami, it was dead. I then went to Veneto's Casino, it had several dozen ladies, especially by the bar, I saw a few very attractive ones, but did not negotiate. Returned to the Sheraton, they have a very nice casino there, started playing the slot machines, a vert attractive lady found me. After a casual conversation she asked $150, we settled on $100. Gave her my room number, 10 mim later knock on the door, and she was there. Her name was Valerina. from Calle. 25 yrs old 5' 2" tall, dirty blond, 32B 22 32, about 100 lbs. Service was CBJ, and FS. I took a couple photos, she did not want to be photographed, so the shots were marginal at best.

Day 2, I returned to Fantastic Casino, again no tallent, it was 7:30p so I walked to Golden Times, I was the 1st customer, went into the rom where at least 30 numberd ladies came in to introduce themselves. I choose #46, she was extremely attractive with a great body. Her name was Melody from Coloumbia, she told me most if not all the tallent is from Columbia. She began with a massage, which was very good, after a half hour started with a cbj, then fs her position changed every 2 minutes. She was very attractive, but too mechanical. I would not repeat as there were so many great looking ladies in the establishment.

[QUOTE=Parker674]It will probably be like this: Thursday all may close at midnight. Friday all will be closed for sure. Saturday and Sunday will be ok, but perhaps not with a wide choice. Freelancers at casinos may be a better option for Thursday and Friday. Those guys never close.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, I think I'll just stay in town for Tue and Wed and leave for the rural areas (=hopeless, but I'm really here on a birdwatching trip) for the weekend. That being said, birdwatchers have to get up early, like 5AM. If I happened to get up at 4AM (at the Marriott using points), any recommendations for a not expensive quickie (I'm fine with SWs). On a different subject, there are a great many references to Baro Boca Torena but I can find nothing more precise than "near the fish market" If I get to the fish market, is it easy to find or easy to ask someone?

Thanks to all

If you look like a tourist don't even think about walking at night in the area near the fish market! A taxi driver should know exactly where it is. If you are driving just go past the fish market and you will definitely get to see the place a couple hundred meters further.

I stayed a couple nights in Panama City Marriott using points (think they were asking $280 those nights! ). My goodness that bar across the street (Habanos) is fine. First night Nathalie from Colombia, pretty good English, an enchanting smile, maybe a little "professional" back in the room (altho she thanked me for DATY).

A friend of hers stopped by a few time while we were still at the bar, with absolutely sensational titties (which are not really my thing, but these were really sensational). So next night, I hung out hoping she'd show up, and bingo. (Both girls asked for 150 and quickly accepted 100, I wonder what happens with 75? )) Anyway Raquel form Rep Dom (no English) was great, so good in fact that I rearranged my bird-watching itinerary to have another night a few nights later back at the Marriott (more points) and we spent about 5 hours together. (Seemed like a date but she wanted 200 afterward but I have no regrets). She is in school to get her Maritime License. The thought of those DDs on a ship with 15 guys for a few weeks, I don't know.

I tried to find Baro Boca Torena. Since I had a rent-a-car I drove to the fish market, had a great lunch in the restaurant above the market, but could not find the place in a couple hours walking around, and didn't feel like getting a taxi to take me a couple hundred meters. Maybe someone could post an actual direction for the place some time.

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I'm in Panama City with my wife in June staying at veneto and need to know where I can go for a quick piece of ass. Like a mp thats close to the veneto. And what are there prices at same.

Any help please.

I'm going to be in Panama City in June with my wife and staying at the Veneto.I need to know where i can find a MP close by the Veneto and there prices.

Thanks any help please

[QUOTE=Johntodd]I recently visited Panama City, was surprised the US Dollar was the currency they use.
Day 1, Stayed at the Sheraton Convention Center, took a cab to Fantastic Casino, no tallent, around 7:00p walked to Miami, it was dead. I then went to Veneto's Casino, it had several dozen ladies, especially by the bar, I saw a few very attractive ones, but did not negotiate. Returned to the Sheraton, they have a very nice casino there, started playing the slot machines, a vert attractive lady found me. After a casual conversation she asked $150, we settled on $100. Gave her my room number, 10 mim later knock on the door, and she was there. Her name was Valerina. from Calle. 25 yrs old 5' 2" tall, dirty blond, 32B 22 32, about 100 lbs. Service was CBJ, and FS. I took a couple photos, she did not want to be photographed, so the shots were marginal at best.

Day 2, I returned to Fantastic Casino, again no tallent, it was 7:30p so I walked to Golden Times, I was the 1st customer, went into the rom where at least 30 numberd ladies came in to introduce themselves. I choose #46, she was extremely attractive with a great body. Her name was Melody from Coloumbia, she told me most if not all the tallent is from Columbia. She began with a massage, which was very good, after a half hour started with a cbj, then fs her position changed every 2 minutes. She was very attractive, but too mechanical. I would not repeat as there were so many great looking ladies in the establishment.[/QUOTE]
Good report. A couple of questions, what was the going rate for the hour? Do they have massage tables or beds?

[QUOTE=Mangera]Good report. A couple of questions, what was the going rate for the hour? Do they have massage tables or beds?[/QUOTE]

Golden Times open at 7:30pm, they asked if I came by taxi, I said I walked from the Casino, the rate was $84 US. Its $94 if you arrive by cab.There were many ladies, perhaps 30 to choose from, they all were acceptable, some were great. The room had a massage table and a shower. There were bars from the ceiling, I asked the lady what they were for, she indicated some girls walk on the persons back and hold the rails. I have been to China where the ladies use similar bars with red ropes to enhanse your experience. Apparently Panama was different if she was thruthful.

[QUOTE=Xxx Ray]I'm in Panama City with my wife in June staying at veneto and need to know where I can go for a quick piece of ass. Like a mp thats close to the veneto. And what are there prices at same.

Any help please.[/QUOTE]

If you are staying at the Veneto, you can walk down the block and step into the Oasis MP. They have a website and you can print off their $5 off coupon. Between 11am and 230pm they have $50 FS lunch special. After 230pm the prices go up to $65 an hour, $70 for take out. There are two shifts of chicas, 11am to 7pm and the 7pm to 3am shift. Quality of the stable is not as good as Golden Times, but sometimes you find a diamond in the rough, or quality girl who is down on her luck and is just doing this for a short stint.

A half mile away, on Via Espana, there is a Blockbuster video store on the corner of Via Argentina. There is small courtyard behind it, about 20 meters. Inside, you will find River Club <(very obvious), and Relax Oriental ....less obvious....both are dives compared to Oasis. But they are close and I have gone to both dozens of times, come up empty handed, only to find girls who would go on to dance at Miami Club or other diamonds in the rough.

Can you check out of the net for 90 minutes....then you can take a cab....but not during rush hour between 430 and 7pm....and go to Golden Times. Much has been written about it.

Passenger load between ATL and PTY must be dropping off. Delta used a Boeing 737 to make that flight. <Must be the economy. When I stepped out of the airport, it was past 930pm and as the airport was pretty empty, I didn´t try getting a cab doing a drop off in order get a good fare. So, after a long wait for my check in bag, I was in a hurry to get moving. I told one of the touts I wanted to pay $25 for the cab, and he found me one. I regretted not paying the $28, which seems to be the new going rate, since the driver did not take the toll road and traffic slowed us down, if you could believe it.

Made a $38 reservation at the Hotel Centroamericano on Travelocity. It is in a very working class neighborhood, but a two mile walk to Veneto. At night, there seemed to be a lot of people in the streets, even some chicas. There was a rally in the neighborhood for a presidential candidate and they set off 100 or so really loud firecrackers. Hotel Centroamericano is clean but spartan, but I needed a cheap reservation for the first night. The plan was to move to the Residencial Los Arcos in the morning.

Went to GT with dreams of reuniting with number 8, a real treat. She is one of those Bionic, 60 Million Peso Chicas, but with an enhanced Horneyness Chip installed. Over the last year or so, we have run into each when we were both in town, and after 4 months in a war zone, I was eager to see her again, get her new cell phone numbers and start negotiating some private sessions.

I was disappointed. Neitherl number 8 or any of the other Colombianas I knew from last year were there. The line up wasn´t bad, so I had options. I picked the Paisa with the Cleopatra eyes and NO enhancements: long black hair, natural B cups, and a naturally curvy butt. During the interview in the lounge room, she passed the chemistry test, so it was upstairs we went.

When we got into the room, Saloime was very sweet, naked, and affectionate. Lots of kissing, although the DFK didn´t come till later. I pulled out a small bottle of Calgon Vanilla scented body spray. When eaten, Choclate has a mild aphrodisiac effect on women. Ditto for smelling Vanila. IT is science, so you can´t go wrong bringing it down She liked the spray and she sprayed it all over the room and massage table. IT really got her in the mood. I told her to dispense with the massage, so she started torturing me with her tongue and her knowledge of the sensitive parts of a man´s body.

I was having a great time even before she went oral on me. The BJ was covered, but she gave me lots of teabag action. She had a agreed to try the female condom (only a $1.99 each at Undercover Condom´s .com site.) Salome was skilled at cowgirl but when we went to mish she rolled her eyes, bit her lower lip, and kissed me like a demon. Although the rooms in GT really, really, really need bigger mirrors on the wall, she looked great in doggie, which is where she came. We switched to spoons and that was where I came. She was impressed with the femidoms and we talked for a while before the phone call announcing that her time was up came.

I went to lounge are afterwards to have a drink and make more observations about the current stable. The numbers that stayed in my mind are number 3 who is very ....uh, pnuematic, and numbers 16, 20, and 24.

When I left, I went to Miami Club, where I was surprised to find it full of girls AND customers. Their prices are comparable to GT, but there is a lot of pressure to buy drinks and buy the girls drinks. Saw a couple of chicas I liked, but my favorita was not there, and I wanted to pace myself.

Before returning to my hotel, I went by River Club and was disappointed by the stable. Went to Relax Orietnal. Spotted a potential diamond in the rough, and made a mental note to come back the next day.

Cruised Habanos as they were closing, and the Veneto, which had a disappointing collection of chicas.

Advice to nebies. Bring lots of $1 bills for taxi cabs and keep your quarters. A dollar or two, with a smattering of quarters will get you were you want to go, and $3 will get you from Veneto to Golden Times.

I know that I have been putting out the word to have the cabbie drop you off at Fantastic Casino when going to GT or Miami Club. IT will save you from paying $94 at GT and a $10 cover charge at MC. However, you guys can stop cruising Fantastic Casino for chicas. They just don´t go there. No attached hotel and the casino is designed to support expat Chinese gamblers and not gringos. And when the Chinese businessmen want to pay for some strange, they just go to GT where they get a big discount. Asian American mongers, could pass for local Chinese if they spoke Spanish well enough and get an hour with a GT girl for just $·50 or maybe less.

Woke up in the Hotel Centroamericano. It was noisy and noisier with the airconditioner on. Had steak and fried plantains for breakfast, with tip, it just cost $5. Walked up the street to the Residencial Los Arcos. They could not get me into one of their $33 rooms, but they could had vacant $44 rooms. It is a busy time, with the run up to the elections, the weekend coming up, and the rennovations of one of their 8 wings took many rooms out of play. Clean, efficient, and being well set up for trysts make it an attractive alternative to the casion and hotel complexes on Via Espana.

Transferred hotels. Later I took a cab to the Oasis. They only had three girls working, one of whom was Tatiana. Tatiana was the tall MILF from my October report. Her features were still exotic, but she had put on some more weight, and she had no smiles for me. Instead I chose Vicky, 24, of Chiriqui with her lightened hair, golden hued skin, natural C cups, and fetching smile. We sat and discussed the preliminaries. Said she had worked a month in the interior before striking out in the big city with her friend. She agreed to use a femidom out in the room but would later renege.

She took me to the rear room, with the nice big mirror on the ceiling. I had to move the bed to get it under the ceiling and showered while she went to get towels. She was playful enough even though she wouldn't allow kissing on the lips. A nice CBJ while I was supined, and it got better when I stood up so I could see her in the mirror, and it got really good when she was supine. I thought the bag would come off when we transitioned to mish, but she said no. While I was in the shower, Tatiana had told Vicky of our femidom mishap last year and convinced her to stick to the bag. (Cockblocked by Tatiana! Couldn't beleive it.) Well, we went to mish, then side by side. She came, and eventually said the next position was the last one. She had a tendency to keep her hands down there while we did it.

We spooned (or lazy doggied) while I watched her in the mirror and stared at her huge tramp stamp. She said the tattoo hurt for 3 hours while it was being put on. I came watching her face squinch up. Nice. We talked afterwards as we still had 15 minutes. I had given her a mini box of choclates before the session, and a small bottle of Victoria Secret body spray, but she still asked for a tip....if just because she has to pay for her own condoms. Not bad for a lunch special of just $50. I gave her $5, and she said that was great because she could by lunch.

[QUOTE=Iguana Six]I know that I have been putting out the word to have the cabbie drop you off at Fantastic Casino when going to GT or Miami Club. [/QUOTE]

I'd ask to go to the gasolinera just past Plaza Mirage if going to GT or to Niko's Restaurant if going to Miami Club -- cuts down on the walking.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I'd ask to go to the gasolinera just past Plaza Mirage if going to GT or to Niko's Restaurant if going to Miami Club -- cuts down on the walking.[/QUOTE]

I tried the gasolinera trick, and the Popeye's Chicken trick. Does it work for you?

How hard is it for the cabbie to figure out that people drive to a gas station, but what pedestrian would ask for ride to a gas station? He drops you off, and then it becomes a waiting game. If he gets wise you are heading to GT, he will beat you there and demand his $10 reward, which will be tacked to your bill. What are you going to do, hang around at a gas station for no plausible reason?

That is why I like the Casino. They drop you off, you get wanded, you go inside, you use their restroom and by the time you step outside, he has gotten a new fare and is long gone by the time you come outside.

After the nice session at Oasis I hung out a bit down town. I walked to the corner of Via Argentina and Via Espana, the site of Blockbuster Video. Went the River Club, but was told the chicas were not set to arrive unti 4pm. Went to Relax Oriental.

The woman running that place is Dominicana with a grating voice and harsh management approach to the girls. I reminded her of the fiasco from last November, where I was supposed to have a dupla with the Suri and her Chinese friend, but how the little Cuna Indian ditched me. We could had the dupla on site, but I tried to take them both to Los Arcos, where I was told that only one chica at a time was allowed into the room. The Chinita was new to me, so I went with her first. When it was time for me to do Suri, she said she was hungry. After the three of us went to eat, Suri bailed and I never heard from her again.

Anyway, on night one, I stopped by kind of late and saw a cute light skinned mulatta. Did not pull the trigger, because I was spent from GT, and she looked kind of tired, but filed her away for future reference. She was there this afternoon, and what a difference a night's sleep and a change of outfit did for her! We talked and we hit it off right away. Another 24 year old, with some English skills, because she had been working for an American company back in Chiriqui (two Chriquianas in one day? What a coincidence?) but was laid off, so she started this last month to support the 4.5 year old offspring. Connie had A cups, a slim waist, and very nice bunda. AND she had used to get femidoms from a friend in the health ministry, so that was not a show stopper. AND she told me she would be very accommodating. We agreed to do a 2 hour session in my room. I'd pay the house portion and I could give her whatever I wanted.

It took some negotiating with the she-wolf, but I would up giving up $90 for two hours.

Later, in the room, Connie lived up to her promise. First round was BBBJ, covered multiple positions, lots of kissing. She loves porn and squealed with delight when I gave her a Pocket Rocket. The second session was even better, with BBBJ2CIM. Will have a TLN on Saturday. A keeper!

i had given connie $60 and a bunch of loot (pocket rocket, a coloring book and a set of marker pens for her little one...who she was visiting the next day...some shower caps, a little bottle of pantene provitamin shampoo conditioner, a couple of freebie toothbrushes, and a little box of choclates). she was not impressed with the victoria secret stuff, but she really liked what she got. we made an appointment for a tln when she gets back in town on saturday night.

with connie out of town on friday and saturday, that left me free for 48 hours. i arranged a meeting with the chinita i met last october. it was supposed to be at 1pm, but she called and pushed it back to 330pm. at 4pm, i gave up trying to reach her, since my local cell phone was running out of minutes. i decided to go to relax oriental and check out the new girl on her 2nd day. i made it all the way to river club, where they didn´t answer the door bell and was walking across the courtyard to relax, when my phone rang. it was le-le and she was enroute to my hotel. dang. bad timing.

i did a quick peek at relax before catching a cab back to the hotel. she was waiting in the little glass room at los arcos and lit up smiling when i came in. she had lost 15 lbs since last october, thanks to aerobics and looked great. when we got to the room she acted like a 8 year girl getting a pony for xmas when i showed her the panties, lip gloss, eye shadow, etc from victoria secret. that, and the vanilla scented body spray drove her giddy with excitement.

she told me it had been two weeks since her last encounter and she had missed my way of handling her. she is kinda of a semi-pro having gotten into this through her friend suri, who went off the deep end shortly after her cut and run. cocaine is a hell of a drug...and it is very cheap in panama. we had a great session. she kept saying how big i was, but i tried to give her some perspective by putting on a dvd showing a black guy-asian girl orgy, but while she found the collection og asian girls from all nations interesting, and some the black guys members were intimidating, she still said i was big. we managed to work around that and have a great time. just a few pictures allowed, but lots of dfl, bbbj, and my favorit positions. a real ghe for just 60.

she told me that she had to get back to her shopping with her friend and would return in an hour so so we could have dinner. once again, she flaked and she called to say that something came up. she agreed to call me after ten, as she really wanted to tln before i left town.

what to do, what to do? habanos or la bodeguita would have meant an unkown independent in a room with no room safe. gt? nope, set up a date with salome from wednesday night for saturday afternoon. why not try the new girl at relax?

ellie may is 19, and from ...you guessed it...chiriqui. she is a spinner of 105lbs and 1.63 meters, with a tiny waste, a small but kicking but, and huge soft c cups with nipples that would require small jar tops to cover. a tiny, helium voice. big, big eyes. it was her second day and she was still a little shy. i gave her a tiny sampler box of choclates. already, she was getting the jealousy dagger eyes from rosy as she was getting lots of attention as the new girl. business was slow and she had gotten two customers in two days. did she like the surroundings? no, she told me. would she like to go to my nice airconditioned room with shower, bed, and tv? yup.

i arranged to pay the house .5cien, and it would be up to me pay ellie may. she would take .30 and some loot from miss vickies. she loves miss vicky´s stuff. choclate and vanilla spray worked its magic when we got to the room.
her squeaky little voice was cute as she described how she came to the big city two years ago, met a boy, had his offspring, and needed to work to feed the 10 month old. i was only her 2nd full service customer as her thursday customer just needed a massage. it was a tender little session and i felt i was back in college. the femidom was new for her, she kissed me sweetly and gave me one of the most tender, delicate bbbj i have ever had. she almost came during side to side and doggie, but wasn´t sure if she came once or twice after spoons. no mirrors in the room, but it was nice watching a spinner´s huge soft breast sway too and fro while i stroked her. she gave me her number.

i got her number before taking her back to relax. sure enough, susana was calling her cell phone as our cab got near the mp. i accompanied inside the mp so ellie may would not get chewed out for lateness. flirted a little with rosy, suggested i might see her tomorrow, so hopefully that will ease some her tension on ellie may.


got out of there too late for dinner at the cuban restaurant across the street and up the block, which is a shame, but it really was too late for a big helping of comfort food. oh well, something to do tomorrow. maybe i will take the gt girl there for lunch. or, ro girl there for a late dinner?

[QUOTE=Iguana Six]I tried the gasolinera trick, and the Popeye's Chicken trick. Does it work for you?

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First I usually drive myself so it's not an issue. But it always worked
for me. I have had taxis drop me at the gasolinera at least a couple of times, once at McDonalds across the street, a couple of times when I was hungry at Don Lee's Chinese restaurant on the next block on Tumba Muerto away from downtown. (Actually, from several years ago, I recall a Chinese restaurant inside Plaza Mirage. I don't know if it's any good or even if it's still there, but there were a lot of orientals eating there the time I looked in.)

Anyway, I've never had a problem. But I've got a decent line of B.S. For example, my girlfriend told me to meet her there to buy her some gasoline and I can't figure out why she wouldn't let me just go by her apartment but I figure maybe she has some guy living with her and I think maybe I'm just a stupid dumb ass. Hey, forget the gasolinera. Let's go by her apartment. Well, no, I think I'm not sure I can find it and she might have left by now. And I'm basically a coward, I don't want to get my throat cut. Maybe she's married. I met her the last time I was in Panama and we've been communicating by Email. She got me to send her some money a couple of times. Yeah, maybe I am a stupid dumb ass. What do you think, are Panamanian women honest, or are they lying *****s like in my country? They seem so sweet. Hey, just drop me off at the service station.

Also, if the taxi driver says something hinting he thinks you're going to GT or he wants to take you to a place with girls, pretend you're an evangelist and start trying to save his soul.

BTW, either McDonalds, if you go inside, or certainly Don Lee should work without good Spanish. McDonalds is open late and you have to cross the street to get to GT, so it's less likely to arouse your taxidriver's suspicions, vs. dropping you off at, say, a closed, totally deserted fast food joint on the same side of the street as GT.

Nice reports, thanks for taking the time to write them up.

Things are tough all over, gents, so it is best to go across the street to the Del Rey Supermarket, the Casino, McDonald's or something. I had a taxi cab stick right in front of Golden Times on me for 2:30 hours waiting for his cut. I never told him what I was doing either. Just an a**hole looking for his cut. I guess he taught it was easy money or something. I got started early (7:30pm) so by 10:15pm the coast was clear and I managed to session. Waited him out at the casino. Taxi drivers can be your best friends or a royal pain depending on what you want to do. But giving them a $10 bonus for nothing ain't going to happen. I hate leaches!!!
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I'd ask to go to the gasolinera just past Plaza Mirage if going to GT or to Niko's Restaurant if going to Miami Club -- cuts down on the walking.[/QUOTE]

What are the hours for GT, and when the taxi driver drops me off at the casino which way to GT.

Sorry about all the Q. But I've never been to PC before so bare with me. Question is about GT what do I get for my $84. IS it just 1 pop and done? Or is it a full hour or 1/2 hour which one?

Dear friend, I really enjoy your reports. I may suggest you to post the phone numbers of the girls and perhaps photos without her faces.

Xxray,

1. Oasis is the MP closest to Veneto and the best place for you for a "quick piece of ass". Go out the front door of the Veneto Hotel. Turn right on Via Veneto, walking toward Espana. Oasis is on your right in a small strip shopping center, below ground level (but you can see it from the street) just before you get to the driveway leading up a hill to to Hotel Panama. Cost is around $50 for lunchtime special, which runs from around 11:00 AM to 2:00 PM and around $65 to $70 afterwards. Maybe someone can correct me on prices and times if I'm off. You should ask for the special as otherwise they'll probably try to charge you the higher rate.

2. The main road you'll be taking to the casino and Golden Time from downtown is Tumba Muerto. Actually it's called Ricardo J. Alfaro close to downtown, and the name will change to Tumba Muerto. While you're traveling down Tumba Muerto, keep your eye pealed to your right and try to spot Plaza Mirage, where GT is located. To get to Casino Fantastic, the taxi driver will take a road to the left off of Tumba Muerto and go a little ways before dropping you off. You'll walk back to Tumba Muerto, go to your right, and cross Tumba Muerto to get to Plaza Mirage. GT is in on the side of the Plaza farthest from downtown. The first time you go I'd strongly suggest you pay the extra $10 and tell the taxi driver to take you GT. If your heart is set on trying to save $10, and if you think you can handle the taxi driver, I'd ask to go to McDonalds across the street from Plaza Mirage or to the gas station next to the plaza, as I suggested below. It wouldn't be worth $10 to me to hoof it from the casino, especially late at night, and since it's your first time you don't want to go wandering around trying to find the place.

3. GT is open from 7:30PM until very late, like around 4:00 AM. You're supposed to get one hour. You'll have about 5 minutes after you pick from the lineup to chat with your date. If you want more than one pop and she says no, ask for another woman or wait or ask for the next lineup.

Visited Relax Oriental this afternoon, pretty much as avertised in previous posting, additional info: PH 263. 3145, address, Vio Argentina / Galerios Alvear # 7, it is off street, in a courtyard, after a little hunting I found the place, back rear corner of the courtyard, gound floor, has sign on door. "Relax Oriental", pretty basic, reasonable clean, small rooms, selection of 4 ladies, acceptable, gringo friendly, $50 for an hour massage with FS, decent massage and OK FS, again rather basic facilities, upon exiting saw a sign for River Club across the courtyard, I am in Panama City for a few days, next on agenda is Havana Club tonight and Oasis tomorrow afternoon.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Things are tough all over, gents, so it is best to go across the street to the Del Rey Supermarket, the Casino, McDonald's or something. I had a taxi cab stick right in front of Golden Times on me for 2:30 hours waiting for his cut. I got started early (7:30pm) so by 10:15pm the coast was clear and I managed to session. Waited him out at the casino. But giving them a $10 bonus for nothing ain't going to happen. I hate leaches!!![/QUOTE]

OMG! 2.5 hours! He waited aroung that long for a measly $10 cut from GT? That is determination or just plain spite! One time, I told a cabbie to take me to the casino, and he asked if I was going to Golden Times.

By the way, GT opens at about 7pm. If you want to get there right when it is open, start travelling early, cause that is the middle of rush hour.

Saturday was supposed to be a big day of repeat appointments with girls off the clock. I had planned to spend the afternoon with sexy, non-siliconed, Paisa "Salome" from GT before she was to report to work. Then, Connie of RO was supposed to spend a TLN after the bus dropped her off from visiting her home town.

It just didn`t happen. Called Salome, and it turns out someone had paid her bar fine the night before to take her to the beach....and she would be back in time time to report to work, but not early enough to session with me. That killed my afternoon plans.

Killed time getting breakfast, hitting the internet, realizing that not just one, but two street led directly to Via Espana from to the Los Arcos love hotel (never realized how Via Espana curves and almost seems to pivot on an axis close to the Los Arcos until I walked the long block from Los Arcos to the Euro Hotel) made a reservation for my next trip at the Veneto.

What to do? What to do? That is when my chinita started phone stalking me. I started getting missed calls from her. A cheap cell phone you can recharge with phone cards (that usually give you triple or even quadruple minutes) is a very useful tool, but she was calling me every hour. But I knew that my chinita would want me even more a month from now when I return.

I decided to go to Via Argentina and Via Espana. I had a wonderful lunch at the Cuban restaurant across from the Rocking Gorrilla. Food was almost like momma used to make and they played some great DVD of music concerts. At that place, they played both kinds of music....Mernegue AND Salsa.

I went to Relax. Dr. Phil says that "you can not replace something with nothing", so I considered a cheap, in-house dupla to replace two hot sessions with Salome.

The night before, when I dropped off Ellie May back at the MP, I noticed the jealousy daggers Rosie and Michelle was shooting her. I was able to see past the pouty scowls of Rosie and "get" her smoldering almost East Indian exotic look. Michelle was even taller than Ellie May, but with a big womanly figure.
Hmmm...there are possibilities here.

I talked with Rosie on the couch in the hallway. A mid-20's single mom of two with a nice rack and ample bunda to offset the baby fat and a nose piercing that made lost of people think she was from Mumbai. Actually, her mom was a very dark black lady and her dad a "cholo", a local Indian. She her mom's color and her dad's feature, hence the exotic look. She was game for the femidom and would do a BBBJ. Would not reduce the price on a take out date, so I decided to shower and come back. She would like choclate, but what she really wanted was some dinner.

I went back to Los Arcos, and on the way back, hit the supermarket around the corner. Their cafeteria was still open and I bought salads - mixed, green, Greek, garden - four of them for less than $6.

When I got back, I gave out salads to Ellie May, Rosy, and Michelle. There was a fourth gal, Laura, who looked like a California mall rat with her gringa features and blonde dye job, except she was so fat I originally thought she was 5 months preggers. No dinner for her, because a 5th gal stepped in from the courtyard and Michelle, the other new gal, gave the 4th salad to Susanna, the she-wolf of the MP.

This was all a plan to help defuse the tension Ellie May was feeling from being the pretty, young, new girl getting all the best clients. (Not that there were many that week.)

When the chicas finished eating, I broached the topic of a dupla to Rosie. She was against it (still envious) but eventually said she would if Ellie May would. (I had eliminated Michelle from the list...too plain for me.) Ellie May was too uncomfortable, so I told her she should not do anything she felt uncomfortable doing. I asked Ellie May if I should just leave, since I was paying attention to Rosie so that Ellie May's prime tormentor would not be so jealous. Leaving would just make it worse. She suggested that I just take Rosie to the room.

While Rosie was getting set up, the management browbeat Ellie May to go to the room. Both Rosie and I spoke in chorus that if Ellie May didn't feel like doing it, she should let the management make her. That bolstered her confidence enough to step back out and back to the waiting room.

The session with Rosie was pretty good. "Thick around the middle, but she packed enough back," to qoute Sir Mix-a-lot. We laughed at the tackyness of the fake wood paneled room and appreciated the twirling ceiling fan. Good BBBJ, very GFE. Guess she appreciated the attention. She surprised herself by coming...real hard. Eye rolling, hand palsied, gasping hard. Mission accomplished my little MILF.

I washed up, talked to the guy who helps run the place, and by the time I left, it was dinner time. Called my phone stalker and told her I couldn`t see her that night. Went and had a dinner at the Cuban place. Nice, comfy, air conditioned, and god food at reasonable prices. Called my RO gal, Connie, but it turned out she couldn't get her voting stuff squared away in time so she was very sorry that we couldn't TLN before I left. But she was so pleased with the pocket rocket I gave her and she was really talking to me like a potential BF, she really looked forward to my return.

When I got out I was gravitating towards GT and an in-house session with Salome, I really was, even as the cabbie dropped me off at the Fantastic Casino. But I decided to detour to Miami Club and see if I could find my old favorita who had graduated to MC after the River Club ripped her off and the RC got robbed.

MC was jumping, just like it was the previous Wednesday night. My favorita wasn`t there and I had forgotten her stage name, so I found myself getting a lot of approaches from the gals who weren't on stage or sitting with customers or giving lap dances. MC seems to specialize in the anti-robo-chica look. Sure, there are plenty of Colombianas, but there are local gals. And few of them have bleached hair. The uniform look seems to be long black pony tails, which offsets the white matching outfits they wear. Niiiice.

Spotted a youngish college freshman looking cutie, but she disappeared into the chica ready room back part (vs the cruise ship cabin type cuartos on the other back side of the place.)

While I was looking, I spotted Paisa with big, expressive eyes, a slightly smaller than Reese Witherspoon's, and absolutely the best teeth I have ever come across. (yes...I just wrote that.) Long, natural, Breck girl commercial brunnette hair that would have made that faggotty former VP candidate would jealous. She was standing by the front door, and she gave me an encouraging smile. Introduced myself and she invited me to sit down with her without hustling me for drinks. She was like Gloria, the other Medellin native at Oasis, just as cute but more beautiful. And...that smile....those dimples.... Lina agreed to use the femidom, kissing, and when asked about oral....well, she told me that it was her specialty, that she was the oral expert, and I would leave the room happy....and drained. Salome, who?

As she led me to the cash booth, I asked if I could get the local price. Was it $95 or $85. She told me that if I could pay with cash, it would only be $85. Works for me. She would have been a cien girl in the Del Rey in SJO. To the back we went. What a relief for my ears.

I showered while Lina set up the bed. She had no offspring. She attacked me...but in a good way. Sweet, passionate kisses. True enough, she started with the BBBJ, but only the tip. She asked for a tip to swallow me whole. I agreed, cause she was that good with her hands and her mouth. The hands are important. Some girls just yank away, but she new how use her hands to give a BJ that is worthy of filming, one that makes you squirm with pleasure, and shudder like an epileptic having a fit. Mish was passionate on her part. When we went to doggie, it was something else. She came and the view of her whole body in the MC's perfectly sized, perfectly placed mirrors by the bed were incredible. She came and it was fun to watch her enhanced, but not obscenely so, breasts swing like cowbells.

We swithced to spoons and if felt great, but I just wasn't going to come, I had been a very busy boy that week, so it was time for her to earn her tip. She used her hands and mouth, so it was my time to shudder when I CIM'd.

We showered and prepped to leave. I checked my pockets. She wanted at least $20 in tip and all I had was $11. Oops. She doubted I would come back with her tip, but I told her my word was good and refused to take her digits until I returned. She was still dubious...

I ran out. A cabbie wanted $10 for a ride to the Los Arcos. Not feeling it buddy. Walked to the Rey Supermarket around the corner and up the block.
A young cabbied dropped off a fare and I hopped. For $5, he took me back, waited for me to get some cash, and drove me back....all in just a few minutes as there was almost no traffic. When I got back, I could't find Lina. Looked and look all over the MC, and asked a couple of the girls. Eventually I found out that she had hooked another client right after me. I tried breaking a $50 bill, but the chinese gal running the ticket booth said they didn`t have enough change. When Lina came out, she was surprised as hell to see me....and pleased.

She gave me her number, and I told her to break my $50. But the ticket office would not take it. Seems they didn`t like it because it looked like it went through the washing machine. She was exasperated as I was and as she gave me my $50 back. It was no matter, she said. She learned all she needed to know about me when I returned her tip. Yes, she would be glad to see me the next time I was in town, and I promised to take her out for a nice dinner.

I went back to the Los Arcos and packed. They didn't give me the wake call I had set up the next morning, but no matter, I had my cell phone to wake me up.

Anyone in Panama knows if its business as usual with the girls or has the swine flu affected business.

Panama has only reported 1 case of the flu so I guess thats good.

[QUOTE=Sato San]Anyone in Panama knows if its business as usual with the girls or has the swine flu affected business.

Panama has only reported 1 case of the flu so I guess thats good.[/QUOTE]

Pardon, there has not been a single swine flu case in Panama. Dont think it has affected business, but extra safety measures should be observed

[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]Dear friend, I really enjoy your reports. I may suggest you to post the phone numbers of the girls and perhaps photos without her faces.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the kudos. Over the years, I've gotten a lot of good "gouge" from the forums and I like to give some back.

As for phone numbers, I don't think Jackson allows it. Besides, when a gal gives me her number it is because she wants to be with me, not get "spammed" by a bunch of different guys. Same for photos. Chicas are so internet savvy, and all of them knows of somebody whose real life was ruined by fotos of them on the internet. So when they agree to photos on the condition that I not post them, I respect that.

Last week, at the HLH in SJO-CR, I wanted to take some fotos and the second chica in the dupla did not agree to do so until the other chica assured her that I was trustworthy, that I kept my promises, and that none of the pictures I snapped last year would show up on the net.

[QUOTE=Iguana Six]Thanks for the kudos. Over the years, I've gotten a lot of good "gouge" from the forums and I like to give some back.

As for phone numbers, I don't think Jackson allows it. Besides, when a gal gives me her number it is because she wants to be with me, not get "spammed" by a bunch of different guys. Same for photos. Chicas are so internet savvy, and all of them knows of somebody whose real life was ruined by fotos of them on the internet. So when they agree to photos on the condition that I not post them, I respect that.

Last week, at the HLH in SJO-CR, I wanted to take some fotos and the second chica in the dupla did not agree to do so until the other chica assured her that I was trustworthy, that I kept my promises, and that none of the pictures I snapped last year would show up on the net.[/QUOTE]

I respect your opinion about the phone numbers and photos. The purpose of posting on forums like this one is to share knowledge on sex activities, what to do, what to avoid, etc. If you share photos with the face covered it would be very difficult to recognize a person, a phone number is easy to identify but in my humble opinion, sharing the information about the girls would be a greater help for them because they could get more customers from people that read this forum. About the forum’s policy on phone number I don’t remember anything that forbids us to post that info.

Greetings Gents,

Just got back from a productive trip to pty. This report probably won't contribute much to the public knowledge of pty, but I thought I'd write a little about my experience. After researching the comments on the board, I figured the Marriott was the best place to stay and it was. The location is convenient to all the major attractions. And of course, being a Marriott reward member doesn't hurt either. I was able to use 60, 000 reward points for 3 nights on a 4 night stay. This brought my total to $160. Split that with my wingman and there you have it, a trifling $80 for the entire stay. Anyway, just exit the front entrance of the hotel and shazzam Habano's is directly across the street. Make a quick left from the entrance and walk two blocks and Le Palace is on the right. And with a little more determination, you can get to Veneto and Capri which are next to each other and a little more than an 8 minute walk. La Bodequita, Club Guru, Moods, and Golden Times are all no more than 5-8 minutes via taxi and should cost you no more than $4 for the ride. Also, for great eating on the cheap, Costa Azul is the one stop shop. With a large variety on the menu and for cheap we ate there for breakfast, lunch and dinner-the entire trip. Unbeatable with only a short 2 minute walk from the Marriott.

Now on to more important issues. Do to the I'll-timed presidential elections we only had two full days of unhindered mongering on Thursday and Friday. Saturday and Sunday all our favorite spots were closed except GT. Some genius decided that all establishments that sale alcohol should be closed leading up to the elections. Anyway, we managed to visit GT, Veneto, Bodeguita, Guru, and Habano's. Rather than give you a detail account of my experiences at each place I'll summarize and utimaltely give you my take in general on the feasibility of pty mongering.

To begin with, the spots we visited were filled primarily with Colombian women mostly from Cali and Medillin. Very few darker Panamanians in these particular spots with the exception of Guru and Moods which is mostly frequented by local panamanians. I found the talent, at GT, Veneto, and Habano's to be unbelievable with many girls ranging from 7-10's. I consider myself to be a good judge of talent. Anyway, as talked about previously on this board, bodeguita is dark inside and hard to see what you're looking at. No worries, just wait till one of the flashing disco lights shines on your unsuspecting prey and you shall have a glimpse of your subject-pass or fail. Some have shunned this place because they think it's primarily a dance club. Not really, it appeared to me that this is mainly a bar where only a few people use open space to make their own dance floor. Therefore, go and have fun.

While at GT, choosing the right girl in a line-up with such awe-inspiring talent can be difficult. With such a short time to make an assesment on each girl paraded out in front of you, it is easy to make the bad choice that will deep six your entire experience. However, I noticed that body language is usually the key here. If a chica comes out and smiles and looks you directly in the eye, usually that translates into good service. I would strongly advise against going with the 10 with no smiles or enthusiasm over an 8 with all the enthusiasm. I know this is common knowledge but some time we tend to forget about this simple concept. Trust me, I made the mistake of picking #5-a ten, solely on her looks. It showed as she turned out such a lazy and uninspiring performance the likes of even Brittney Spears would be ashamed of. Well, after struggling to salvage that lame session to no avail, I had imagined that I would have had a better experience with a blow-up doll. Oh well, I chose more wisely the next day and was completely satisfied. As for Veneto's and Habanos both are great options to add to your experience, but trying to bargin the chicas down to the $85 that you would spend in GT is quite difficult if not impossible. So be prepared to pay at leat $100. Moods and Guru are regular clubs that the Panamanians go to and have good talent but I didn't try to see if take-out was available. Nevertheless, I still had fun and think that options are available here if you really try.

All in all, for those considering a trip to pty I would strongly encourage a visit. I've been to DR, CR, SXM, BR and Mexico and the talent here ranks right up there with them and actually better than DR and SXM. However, when considering a second trip, cost-effectiveness comes into play. With prices ranging from $85 on the low-end and $300 on the high-end, it is more expensive than the other spots and probably not a repeat form me. Sure you can get a duck here for $40. But do you want a duck with the available overstocked talent? Anyway, it's on to Curacao. So long!

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I went to Panama City back in June of 2007. I was staying with my dad at the time, so I could not do a lot of partying, but when we went out at night around 8 or so, near the balboa area I would see these buses, some were double decker and some were not. Anyways their were numerous people in it, drinking and playing loud music, on these party buses does anyone have any information on this? Or has anyone witnessed out as well, I saw it near the balboa yacht club. Would it be cool for three spanish spearking Americans to go on this.

Thanks

It is possible to bag a hot Columbian for $80 out of the Veneto. It takes some doing though, like popping for a few rounds and being 3 a.m. also helps. Make a return trip to PTY in July with my wingman, but it wasn't my first choice. I've enjoyed CR and DR much more. The airfare was the best $268 R/T out of Tampa. Can't beat that with a stick!

Arriving next month on a Saturday evening and would like company until Monday morning. What would be the possibility (and where would be the best place) to find a "guide" for two nights and a day?

Cooper

[QUOTE=Cooper69]Arriving next month on a Saturday evening and would like company until Monday morning. What would be the possibility (and where would be the best place) to find a "guide" for two nights and a day?

Cooper[/QUOTE]

It depends on whether you run across someone who you have some mutual chemistry with. Your chances are good. Not as good as, say, Thailand, but pretty good for the western hemisphere, provided you're willing to spend several hundred dollars (more for a real stunner, less for a dog, depending on whether she likes you). I'd start out at Habano (cigar bar across the street from the Marriott) and the Veneto Casino, and if you don't find someone by, say, around midnight, you might move onto La Bodeguita. These are all freelancer bars.

[QUOTE=Assman666]I went to Panama City back in June of 2007. I was staying with my dad at the time, so I could not do a lot of partying, but when we went out at night around 8 or so, near the balboa area I would see these buses, some were double decker and some were not. Anyways their were numerous people in it, drinking and playing loud music, on these party buses does anyone have any information on this? Or has anyone witnessed out as well, I saw it near the balboa yacht club. Would it be cool for three spanish spearking Americans to go on this.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

these are called "chivas parranderas" aka party buses literally. Normally they are chartered by large groups people in advance, I dont think they would allow you joining one of the prebooked parties, as normally everyone on the bus knows each other, but you might check out before they leave on a tour to see. They normally start in the Delta gas station near Hooters.

Can anyone tell me the hours of the mp ( oasis) and the prices also mabey the name of a nice girl there.

In Panama its all still very good. The most beautiful chicas and great service at a good price. I found Golden time to have a smaller lineup not the thirty or even twenty chicas as before but more like 12-15. There are some stunners, the majority have great porn star bodies but the faces vary from lovely, girl next door, tired, been here too long and older. Still it the fastest way to find a lovely woman to spent the entire night with and still represents the best value for $350 toda la noche. Most of the times there were many persons and there was not much take away but the majority of clients had in house sessions with guys taking girls for up to 3hrs. Its still best to arrive early to have the best girls and thats no later than 830 pm or else you hav a wait on your hands maybe an hour or so long or you miss out because shes TLN. My experience there was very good. No BBBJ unfortunately although I tried but they seem to hav strict weekly checkups according to my chica. I have had BBBJ there before so its up to the chica I suppose. I didn't miss it because I was treated really well Shower, sex and massage and the sex was great and the chica was willing. Good, physical and intense. There were about 4 chicas who were incredible. I stuck with one for 4 nights and don't hav a regret. What I hav heard on the forum from st Marteen To Curacao to Pnama is true. Treat them well, don't present yourself as a pushover and you're in for a ride.

Word of caution I don't trust Elite I always go there the atmosphere's great but its more "buyer beware " than most other places at that level. This is the second time I had problems or rather issues with money and management. Last time it was the day after I had take away I went there at night and was told by management one of the $100 dollar bill was counterfeit which was bullshit so they wanted me to replace it without giving me the other one, totally ridiculous! This time the girl in the taxi on my way to the hotel got a call that I paid the wrong house fee so could I give the taxi driver $50 to take to them to settle the difference. More bullshit. That and its the only place to charge a coverfee and the girls buy the most expensive drinks. I'm sorry guys. Don't go. Just give it a miss. If its your first time go see, the dancing is great but there are better girls for sure in Golden Time and Le palace and you don't hav to deal with cover charges or bullshit hustler routines. They had two chances and blew them both with me. Nobody deserves that shit. Yes both times I did hav take away but it was the same girl both times and both times it was great sex BBBJ and all. Prob she being the common element could mean she tried t Hustlke me both times through management or a bullshit routine but thats the end of that.

Le Palace is the best ..you hav to go.The most sexy women of them all and best of all prices seemed to hav dropped for $300 I had 4hrs great sessions.BBBJ, massages and I even had one girl draw a bath for me . I really like being there and watching all the women. My to-do list was long enough for a couple trips.I did recognise some long standing girls who were there for more than a year now. I did two take aways two diff nights and I hav no complaints. I thought the value for money was good for what I had and what I got.And one of the girls ..a bottle blonde was definitely one of the sexiest women I have taken away ever.

It cost a little but I will be content or a while or at least till I go back.Dont doubt however the quality of the chicas for they are there and as for the way the encounter goes its mostly always down to who you choose and how you treat them particularily in that chat up period before the deal. No I dont know much spanish I did try though and wish I knew more but I managed with their help. The only bad experience was in Elite not with the girl but with waiters and management trying to up their margins.Everything else was great.

Looking for a good place to stay. The veneto sounds nice, can anyone comment on the veneto as a place to stay. Is it chica friendly?

[QUOTE=Jotting]Looking for a good place to stay. The veneto sounds nice, can anyone comment on the veneto as a place to stay. Is it chica friendly?[/QUOTE]

It is chica friendly and it is a nice place to stay.

[QUOTE=Jotting]Looking for a good place to stay. The veneto sounds nice, can anyone comment on the veneto as a place to stay. Is it chica friendly?[/QUOTE]Is it chica friendly? are you serious? Did you really ask that?

[QUOTE=Sato San]Word of caution I don't trust Elite I always go there the atmosphere's great but its more "buyer beware " than most other places at that level. This is the second time I had problems or rather issues with money and management. Last time it was the day after I had take away I went there at night and was told by management one of the $100 dollar bill was counterfeit which was bullshit so they wanted me to replace it without giving me the other one, totally ridiculous! This time the girl in the taxi on my way to the hotel got a call that I paid the wrong house fee so could I give the taxi driver $50 to take to them to settle the difference. More bullshit. That and its the only place to charge a coverfee and the girls buy the most expensive drinks. I'm sorry guys. Don't go. Just give it a miss. If its your first time go see, the dancing is great but there are better girls for sure in Golden Time and Le palace and you don't hav to deal with cover charges or bullshit hustler routines. They had two chances and blew them both with me. Nobody deserves that shit. Yes both times I did hav take away but it was the same girl both times and both times it was great sex BBBJ and all. Prob she being the common element could mean she tried t Hustlke me both times through management or a bullshit routine but thats the end of that.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you about The Elite man. I was back there earlier this year and had a problem with some "take out" I got from there. Girl was a light-skinned Panamena and hot as hell with a beautiful face, nice hair, perfect skin, and a big, phat, soft, round booty. I don't remember her name, but the problem was, when we got back to my room at The Veneto, it felt like she was running some scam or something.

I do believe inexperience was a part of it too though. But I mean, when she was getting ready to give me a massage, I had to ask her to take her clothes off! So, she gives me a so-so massage, then asks me to give her a massage after not doing so great on me! Now, I actually don't mind doing that (and a lot more) for a girl every now and then, but I'm the F'in customer, and her first priority needs to be about satisfying me since I'm the one who's paying, not her getting a massage (or anything else) from me after doing only a mediocre job herself!

But I agreed to her request. So, she rolls over onto her stomach and I start. Them hams she carries around as a butt were just looking so delicious, so I buried my then fully erect shaft in between her buttcheeks right into that deep arse gap and continued to get me some more massage action too by rubbing off against the inner walls of her deep ass crack while massaging her on her back. I kept it up for several minutes and had to fight to hold back from spooging all over the hot Panamena's back!

Finally I'm like, "To hell with this! She's here to serve me! " So, I tell the girl I'm ready to get to doing "the nasty", and what does she say? She says she needs to "arregelar" for like 30 minutes, then rolls over and acts like she's going to take some kinda F'in nap on my time! Well, I wasn't having it. I told her that I wasn't paying her big ass to come over to my room to sleep! The girl said she wasn't sleeping. Only "arregelar".

I didn't care what she was calling it. All I knew was that she wasn't up on that dick, and that's exactly where she damn well needed to be. On my dick! So then, the girl gets mad and says, "Oh, so I guess it's just all business isn't it? " I was like, "You're damn right it's business! Get up on this dick! " I got a condom, and then she had problems putting the condom on my dick, basically ruining it! OK, by this time I'm totally fuming. No quit livid but definitely pissed at the inept b***h!

I got another condom and told her that I didn't want any more problems out of her. The girl says it was the condom and not her. She says she's never had a problem with a client before (maybe other guys always let her beautiful big ass walk all over them but I didn't) and that she didn't want any problems with her employer The Elite either. The next time she got the condom on, but we had to wait a few minutes for me to get wood again before she could do that, so distracted and annoyed had I become with her bullshit. She acted bored and shit while waiting for me to get hard. Jerking on my dick with ineptitude and disinterest.

But once I got hard again, she got the condom on and gave me some very good skull bone actually. Then, I laid her back and did her mish. I socked it to that pretty young pussy good and hard! Whew that was some beautiful, tight, young pussy! Some of the tightest I'd had in a while. Think the girl was only 20 and hadn't pushed any babies through that birth canal yet. After I had "nutted" in her, she asked me if it was good. I said hell yeah it was good, and that now she could "arregelar" if she wanted to. She said no, she wanted to leave because I had been mean to her. WTF!

What a bunch of bullshit! She was gonna try to get away with doing as little as she possibly could, including laying her phat ass there on the bed that I was paying for with her eyes closed for 30 minutes? ! I don't think so. Hot girl but inexperienced with a prima donna attitude. Wish I could remember her name. It definitely wasn't worth the money that places like The Elite want to charge. When a girl from one of those places comes with you back to your hotel, her job is not to lay her big ass there on your bed doing nothing! It's to service a monger's dick!

Truth is, I won't be going back to Panama. Not any time soon my friends. This time around, I found it to be just overrun with greedy Colombianas asking for way too much money while delivering far too little in the way of quality service. I didn't enjoy the place nearly as much as I did the first time around. Panama is now stricken from my list of future destinations and no longer holds the prestigious status of Permanent Monger Member Nation. At least not in my books. There are far better places to go to that offer far better value for your monger money.

[QUOTE=Eboniman]Is it chica friendly? are you serious? Did you really ask that?[/QUOTE]

Actually based on what's been posted here, at one time they were trying to keep the hookers out of the casino AND the rooms, so it doesn't hurt to ask.

The three times I stayed there they were extremely chica friendly. Security at the casino level would punch the elevator button and give me a big smile when I was heading upstairs with my date.

[QUOTE=Thick Cane]
There are far better places to go to that offer far better value for your monger money.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, seems like you didnt get lucky. Well as far as the Elite, this would be the first time that this is reported, though you can judge the whole basket for a single fruit. Ive had very good experiences in the past with girls from Elite, at some point I even started dating seriously one girl from there, great times, but I felt like a pimp. The girl whenever we went out wanted to pay for everything, I had to argue with her sometimes so I could run the bill(I was glad sometimes that she did pay!!)

[QUOTE=Xxx Ray]Can anyone tell me the hours of the mp ( oasis) and the prices also mabey the name of a nice girl there.[/QUOTE]

They have a website with some chica fotos. OasisPanama.com, IIRC.

They open around 11am and close around 3am.

[QUOTE=Xxx Ray]Can anyone tell me the hours of the mp ( oasis) and the prices also mabey the name of a nice girl there.[/QUOTE]

Try Gloria, a Paisa spinner with big dimples who almost ruined her ingenue body with some moderately sized but incompetently inserted bolt-ons. Or, Tatiana, the big MILF with the Pam Greer features. Read some of the TR`s I wrote last year, particularly in the fall of 2007, early 2008.

[QUOTE=Sato San]Le Palace is the best ..you hav to go.The most sexy women of them all and best of all prices seemed to hav dropped for $300 I had 4hrs great sessions.BBBJ, massages and I even had one girl draw a bath for me . I really like being there and watching all the women. My to-do list was long enough for a couple trips.I did recognise some long standing girls who were there for more than a year now. I did two take aways two diff nights and I hav no complaints. I thought the value for money was good for what I had and what I got.And one of the girls ..a bottle blonde was definitely one of the sexiest women I have taken away ever.

It cost a little but I will be content or a while or at least till I go back.Dont doubt however the quality of the chicas for they are there and as for the way the encounter goes its mostly always down to who you choose and how you treat them particularily in that chat up period before the deal. No I dont know much spanish I did try though and wish I knew more but I managed with their help. The only bad experience was in Elite not with the girl but with waiters and management trying to up their margins.Everything else was great.[/QUOTE]
$300 4-hour special?? You gotta be kiddin me. I know you can get a nice girl for a lot cheaper than that. Please tell me I'm right!

Can anyone give an update on this place? I'm in Panama for a week in July and it sounds like the next best Blue Marlin (Costa Rica). The Veneto gets boring after a day or two. I'm not a massage parlor kinda guy, prefer a bar atmosphere. The more I drink, the better they look :)

Also, is it still possible to negotiate an offsite deal with a working chica from Le Palace or Elite?

[QUOTE=Nixonbd]Can anyone give an update on this place? I'm in Panama for a week in July and it sounds like the next best Blue Marlin (Costa Rica). The Veneto gets boring after a day or two. I'm not a massage parlor kinda guy, prefer a bar atmosphere. The more I drink, the better they look :)

Also, is it still possible to negotiate an offsite deal with a working chica from Le Palace or Elite?[/QUOTE]

La Bodeguita after midnight typically has more stunners than you'll find in the other two freelancer places, Veneto and Habano. But not a lot, maybe three true hotties the last time I was there 6 months ago. You should also try out the Miami Club -- it sounds right up your alley.

You can negotiate offsite deals with women at Le Palace and Elite. Be careful if you try this at Elite, as management may fire the woman if they catch you doing this.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd]$300 4-hour special?? You gotta be kiddin me. I know you can get a nice girl for a lot cheaper than that. Please tell me I'm right![/QUOTE]

for $300 you can get 4 for an all night special!!!

[QUOTE=GauntMan]for $300 you can get 4 for an all night special!!![/QUOTE]

That's a little like comparing a steak to four hamburgers. If Sato San was including what he paid Le Palace and the girl in the $300, he paid less than most for four hours. That said, I can find an absolute stunner for all night for $300 to $350 without a lot of searching. And for a suave, debonair native-Spanish-speaker like you who's willing to spend some time searching around, I imagine $80 for TLN for a hottie (or $300 for four) is achievable.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]That's a little like comparing a steak to four hamburgers. If Sato San was including what he paid Le Palace and the girl in the $300, he paid less than most for four hours. That said, I can find an absolute stunner for all night for $300 to $350 without a lot of searching. And for a suave, debonair native-Spanish-speaker like you who's willing to spend some time searching around, I imagine $80 for TLN for a hottie (or $300 for four) is achievable.[/QUOTE]
very good analogy, but as far as I know those $300 from LP will only cover like 1 hour or so and then he girl has to return to LP

I will be in Panama this week. Just one night. It's been more than a year and a half. I usually go to Golden Times. Last time I went it was $94.50. There were twenty to pick from. Any updates? I'm not a strip club guy. Been to the clubs, they didn't float my boat. I'm only there for a limited overnight and that's why I usually go to Golden Times.

[QUOTE=Pilot86]I will be in Panama this week. Just one night. It's been more than a year and a half. I usually go to Golden Times. Last time I went it was $94.50. There were twenty to pick from. Any updates? I'm not a strip club guy. Been to the clubs, they didn't float my boat. I'm only there for a limited overnight and that's why I usually go to Golden Times.[/QUOTE]I think that's a fair choice for an overnight stay. Surely you can get some decent quality for a bit less than 100 bucks and you will be done within an hour. The only thing I don't like at GT is that usually service is very mechanical even is the girls are nice to you. Have not been very lucky in that sense in this particular venue.

Your other choice would be Habanos, Bodeguita or the Casino. I'm not a fan of casinos, so I don't have an informed opinion. The downside to Habanos or Bodeguita is that you may not find the best selection depending on the time or day of the week you have available. But they are indeed good options. I would put priority on Habanos. Be sure to negotiate 100 bucks maximum.

[QUOTE=Parker674]The only thing I don't like at GT is that usually service is very mechanical even is the girls are nice to you. Have not been very lucky in that sense in this particular venue.
[/QUOTE]

One thing that can help a bit depending on the woman, pay the $140 for 1-1/2 hours take-out and go with your GT date to a love motel or your hotel room. Ply her with alcohol.

Guys,

You're spending a lot of money for the same push thats at Baro Boca Torena. Baro Boca Torena is were the locals go ten bucks total the girl gets 6 for sex 4 for the room and great lite comdoms.

[QUOTE=PaulGore]Guys,

You're spending a lot of money for the same push thats at Baro Boca Torena. Baro Boca Torena is were the locals go ten bucks total the girl gets 6 for sex 4 for the room and great lite comdoms.[/QUOTE]

Would like to hear more about this place, location, pros & cons, etc. Will be in Panama City over July 4th, always looking for something new. However, I'm also weary of the adage that if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is, lol.

Get to the fish market and ask the locals they will point you in the right direcition there is another club a few doors up called Mayor a little more up scale.I like to get there after i work out around 6.30 in the morning the nite shift is getting off and there are always a couple of lookers.

The time with her was amazing, no rush, I mean shes really sweet, and you can go for everything without hesitation!

If you want the contact info "pm"

I found a list of Push Button Hotels(with prices and locations) in Panama City if anyone is interested.

GB

TOP TEN

1. Royal Garden Suite. (Milla 8).
Habitación sencilla B/15.00. 2hrs Habt. con jacussi B/25.00 2hrs Habt. dos pisos jacussi 35.00 2hrs.

2. Monte Carlo (via tocúmen).
Habitación sencilla B/.10.00 2hrs Habitación con jacussi . B/.25.00 2hrs

3. Puerta del Sol. (transístmica) entrando por TEXACO.
Habitación sencilla B/.10.00 . 2hrs Habitación dos pisos B/. 25.00 2hrs.

4. Campo Amor/Lindo Sueño (vía Tocúmen, al lado de Los Pueblos)
Habitaciones desde B/.7.00 1:30 hrs

5. El Oasis (chorrera al lado de la herradura)
Habitaciones desde B/.7.00 con jacussi B/.15.00

6. Crucero del amor (chitré, camino a pesé)
Habitaciones desde B/6.00

7. Paris (transtístmica)
Habitaciones B/12.00.

8. ”El Ancón 100” (transístmica)
Habitaciones desde B/.10.00

9. Los espejos, (transístmica).
Habitaciones desde B/. 9.00

10. Maury (aguadulce- via panamericana)
Habitaciones desde B/.7.00

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Had an overnight last week in Panama. Just one night. So I went to Golden Times. I hadn't been for almost 2 years. The price went up from $94.50 to $97.50. I think the 50 cents is funny.

There was one other guy there. So I had my choice of 15+ girls. All Colombians. I noticed they were just a tiny bit thicker than usual (from memory) and they looked about mid-twenties in age. My memory remembered younger and thinner.

I picked the youngest and thinnest of the group.

She spoke a bit of English. Good 5 minute massage which i needed. Started with her on top. Good, tight, and most positions.

I like GT for the choice offered and the no muss-fuss of dragging them back to the hotel. (meaning- I don't want to take them back to the hotel).

If you've never been to GT. They have very large massage tables upstairs that are great for play.

Just thought i'd post a current GT report. Will be back again this weekend.

Cheer's (even though I quit drinking)

Is this place still open?

[QUOTE=Hobbying]Is this place still open?[/QUOTE]

it was reopened, now im not quite certain about the current rates, but it seems that now they arent too elitist like before, charging like $25 cover nothing included. As for some pics that i saw from the reopening, the girls are average and below average( I might be wrong from the rest, as I havent got there to check myself)

Now a news flash for those that might be interested, Elite now has an all you can drink special ALL DAYS OF THE WEEK, that is $20 for full open bar with national beverages and $30 full open bar with all drinks included(premium and non premium)

[QUOTE=GauntMan]it was reopened, now im not quite certain about the current rates, but it seems that now they arent too elitist like before, charging like $25 cover nothing included. As for some pics that i saw from the reopening, the girls are average and below average( I might be wrong from the rest, as I havent got there to check myself)

Now a news flash for those that might be interested, Elite now has an all you can drink special ALL DAYS OF THE WEEK, that is $20 for full open bar with national beverages and $30 full open bar with all drinks included(premium and non premium)[/QUOTE]Place was expensive but with it does come quality control of the girls there both in look and service.

Couple quick questions:

1. What is the cover arrangement for La Palace; cover charge, drink costs (beer), cost of a typical girl drink and is there on-premises play?

2. Has anybody used any escort service that was reasonable in price, for example, one I came across: elcomplaciente.com?

3. Top 3 places where I can get the best bang for my buck? I should mention that my nickname is; Cheape Bastardo!

I have visited GT a few times, never payed more than $84, it seems you have been paying the extra $10 for arriving in a taxi. Interesting to find that the rate has gone up $3.

[QUOTE=Pilot86]Had an overnight last week in Panama. Just one night. So I went to Golden Times. I hadn't been for almost 2 years. The price went up from $94.50 to $97.50. I think the 50 cents is funny.

There was one other guy there. So I had my choice of 15+ girls. All Colombians. I noticed they were just a tiny bit thicker than usual (from memory) and they looked about mid-twenties in age. My memory remembered younger and thinner.

I picked the youngest and thinnest of the group.

She spoke a bit of English. Good 5 minute massage which i needed. Started with her on top. Good, tight, and most positions.

I like GT for the choice offered and the no muss-fuss of dragging them back to the hotel. (meaning- I don't want to take them back to the hotel).

If you've never been to GT. They have very large massage tables upstairs that are great for play.

Just thought i'd post a current GT report. Will be back again this weekend.

Cheer's (even though I quit drinking)[/QUOTE]

If a monger was thinking of bringing small gifts; such as purses, watches, or say dolce gabana sunglasses, to sweeten the deal for a high class (Le palace) chica, as I have seen some posters mention, does this carry any real impact. For instance, are these items readily and cheaply available in Panama already. Feel free to send personal messages to this post or public response, either is greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]If a monger was thinking of bringing small gifts; such as purses, watches, or say dolce gabana sunglasses, to sweeten the deal for a high class (Le palace) chica, as I have seen some posters mention, does this carry any real impact. For instance, are these items readily and cheaply available in Panama already. Feel free to send personal messages to this post or public response, either is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

My brother brought the bartenders some lotion from Bed & Bath (in Costa Rica). They all loved it, but didn't get him anything special out of it, but they were very pleased. I'm sure if you brought something of value, it would get you extra attention with that girl and her friends. Depends I suppose on where the girl is from and what she's accustomed to. I would only give a girl something of value as a gratuity if she was a regular whose company I wanted over and over.

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]If a monger was thinking of bringing small gifts; such as purses, watches, or say dolce gabana sunglasses, to sweeten the deal for a high class (Le palace) chica, as I have seen some posters mention, does this carry any real impact. For instance, are these items readily and cheaply available in Panama already. Feel free to send personal messages to this post or public response, either is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

well if you bring some D&G glasses and you dont get some really nice treatment, take your business elsewhere as you will be dealing with the Ice Queen ***** of the Universe!!
As far as I know, those glasses command a high price here in pty. Another tip for you all, all columbian girls love to shop at Studio F shops, just try to scan in advance for price ranges!!

[QUOTE=Bolman]I have visited GT a few times, never payed more than $84, it seems you have been paying the extra $10 for arriving in a taxi. Interesting to find that the rate has gone up $3.[/QUOTE]Yes, I arrive by taxi. The doorman then puts a paper circle on my shirt. So this must mean to charge me extra.

As I mentioned i've been going to GT over the past 4 years now. It started at $92.50 then 94.50 and now is 97.50.

I will take off the paper circle marker this week and see what happens.

P86

I was in Panama this wedsnesday 6/30, and the Cigar bar was closed. Is it closed for good. PLEASE, let me know.

WP

I have been told that you can bring back two boxes of cuban cigars from Panama, does anyone know if this is true and what is the best place to get them. (I'm guessing the cigar store next to the cigar bar has them? ) By the way thanks for the responses to my question regarding gifts to smooze the chicas. In regards to that I bought about 15 fake video ipods from China, surprisingly good quality, and I'll try to give them to the ladies in return for hopefully better GFE. I'll post a full report when I get back, arriving 22nd June leaving the 28th.

Possibly was closed for the presidential inauguration. (Wednesday was 7/1.)

[QUOTE=Rose2922]I was in Panama this wedsnesday 6/30, and the Cigar bar was closed. Is it closed for good. PLEASE, let me know.

WP[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]Possibly was closed for the presidential inauguration. (Wednesday was 7/1.)[/QUOTE]I will have to do a scoutin mission, havent heard anything like the closing down of it, most probably it was closed due to the presidential stuff going on, since it was a holiday, it was biiigg party the previous night.

[QUOTE=GauntMan]will have to do a scoutin mission, havent heard anything like the closing down of it, most probably it was closed due to the presidential stuff going on, since it was a holiday, it was biiigg party the previous night[/QUOTE]It's open tonight (I'm looking down at it from my room at the Marriott right now!).

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]I have been told that you can bring back two boxes of cuban cigars from Panama, does anyone know if this is true [/QUOTE]If you're traveling to the U.S. it's illegal. And customs does sometimes ask if you're bringing back cigars.

Is it just me? I have a stop over in Panama City coming up. And was thinking about staying over night. But from what I see in the reports. Panama City seems to be way over prices as far as Central or South American destinations. Do you agree? It just seems funny to pay over 100 for a colombiana in Panama.

Any convienient places with better prices?

[QUOTE=Tunnelvision]Is it just me? I have a stop over in Panama City coming up. And was thinking about staying over night. But from what I see in the reports. Panama City seems to be way over prices as far as Central or South American destinations. Do you agree? It just seems funny to pay over 100 for a colombiana in Panama.

Any convienient places with better prices?[/QUOTE]head over to the fish market and ask for Baro boca Torena the same chicas ten bucks three doors dowm La Mayor fifteen bucks buck a beer at both places.

just returned from a five day stay in panama city, here are a few observations:

i saw a lot of americans arrive at the airport and get all the way up to the immigration officers only to learn that they hadn't purchased the $5 "tourist card." when you get to the bottom of the escelator, take an immediate left to the small stand to make your purchase. it will speed up the process. there is no exit fee when leaving panama.

checked out la bodequita for the first time. i went on a saturday night, a little before midnight. there is a popular disco nearby so traffic was a nightmare. the cabbie dropped me off on the main waterfront road and it's about a 1/2 block up from that point. there's a building under construction, marina something or other. most any cab driver can get you there. it was about a five minute trek by cab from the veneto. as you approach the bar, there are about four tables outside and at that time each had about 4 stunners at each. after being frisked by one of the several burly security guards, i paid my $10 cover and went inside. it is not a big place, maybe 1200 square feet with one long l-shaped bar and a smaller service bar. the place is dark and by 1 am was pretty packed, at least 3:1 ration, women to men. for a while it seemed i was the only gringo there. as with most places, "cien" was the first response, but it isn't hard to get quality for $80. most of the talent was in the 5 - 8 range. again, being dark and crowed could benefit a pickpocket. i always wear shorts, cargo variety with button flaps on the pockets. it also helps to take a fake wallet or two and put your real wallet or cash in a less obvious place. as the night wears on, the strobe lights and techno music will wear on you, but i give it a "must see." drinks were relatively cheap once inside, even the mixed chica drinks i bought.

the veneto was same as my first trip. most girls of interest at the bar or in close proximity. make eye contact and you're ready to start the negotiation process. my rule is if they offer cien, come back with $80 and a "possible" propina if the service is worth it. it hasn't failed me yet. you can also find girls at the slots, spending their hard earned money, lol. again, most girls were 6 - 8, an occassional 9. weekends are best, but girls a plenty any night of the week. one of the girls i took to my hotel asked me to take her back to the veneto , stating she wouldn't be able to get back in by herself. not sure if thats true or not, but i didn't mind, i was up for another round anyway.

checked out the cigar bar, habanos, but got there way too early (5 pm). the bartender told us it doesn't start filling with talent until 9 pm. by midnight it can get pretty crowded and mostly women (columbianas), ranges from 6 - 9 in quality. $100 is the norm, but $80 is doable too.

i stayed at the tower house suites, around the corner from the executive hotel. i give it a 2.5 star quality(3 star by panamanian standards), outdoor pool, three computer cafe, free breakfast and best of all, no chica hassles. i was never even stopped at the desk. rooms are very large with sitting areas, similar to an embassy suites as you enter. bathrooms are very small. walking distance (2 - 3 blocks) to hooters, elite ii and la palace. price: $47 - $55 + tax. booked off the kayak.com site which takes you to other engines. in this stay, i was booked via skoosh.com, which i've found to be reliable.

i'm not a massage parlor guy, so my report ends here.

[QUOTE=PaulGore]head over to the fish market and ask for Baro boca Torena the same chicas ten bucks three doors dowm La Mayor fifteen bucks buck a beer at both places.[/QUOTE]


Paul, I'm going to Panama first of December. You need to take me into this place.
Hoser

[QUOTE=Hoser352]Paul, I'm going to Panama first of December. You need to take me into this place.

Hoser[/QUOTE]I think this place BBT is a blast the girls were busting my balls for spending the better part of two weeks in there it is a real dirtbomb bar but I love the place it a real roadhouse and being the solo gringo people keep a eye out for me. I did get out to David and the of islandbocas del toro. In David I found a couple of brothols and another place on the highnway called macomba a great country Panama. Pick up a 18 yo on the highway what a smoker non pro I gave her food some cloths and a few bucks for the bus total cost 3 days 65 dollars. I was down to Colombia in May for thee weeks rented a car in Bogota. My girlfriend flew in from barrquillla and we drove around over a good part of the country about 1600 miles a beauiful contry and people. I will try to be in Pamana in Dec.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd]Can anyone give an update on this place? I'm in Panama for a week in July and it sounds like the next best Blue Marlin (Costa Rica). The Veneto gets boring after a day or two. I'm not a massage parlor kinda guy, prefer a bar atmosphere. The more I drink, the better they look :)

Also, is it still possible to negotiate an offsite deal with a working chica from Le Palace or Elite?[/QUOTE]What is the closest hotel to La Bodeguita. Have 2 trips to Panama in the next 6 month.

Thanks in advance,

Doc

[QUOTE=DrBrew1]What is the closest hotel to La Bodeguita. Have 2 trips to Panama in the next 6 month.

Thanks in advance,

Doc[/QUOTE]
you have the bristol and the executive, both are within a pretty short walk.

[QUOTE=DrBrew1]What is the closest hotel to La Bodeguita. Have 2 trips to Panama in the next 6 month.

Thanks in advance,

Doc[/QUOTE]It depends on your budget I guess, but the closes hotel to La Bodeguita is the Miramar Intercontinental Hotel. Just 60 m away (on Av. Balboa).

By the way, the prices at GT are still at 84 US$ (just avoid the 10 U$ "taxi driver" fee).

Greets

[QUOTE=GauntMan]you have the bristol and the executive, both are within a pretty short walk.[/QUOTE]

Dr. Brew,

The Miramar Intercontinetal would be closer, and is in walking distance. Unless I wanted to wander by Elite and the clubs on Avenida Uruguay on the way to LB, I'd take a taxi from GuantMan's picks. But then I'm lazy.

I've stayed in all three hotels. The Executive charged me a $10 joiner fee if they caught me entering with a chica. For me it represented good value for the money. It's comfortable, and if you turn the A/C on high there's no problem with street noise, which is a big problem for mid-priced hotels in this part of the city. The Bristol is the nicest of the three hotels, maybe the nicest in Panama City. There was no chica charge there, but a nasty walk of shame. They told me gruffly to either register my date or alternately they could have security interview her. I had no problem with women at the Miramar Intercontinental, but I didn't push it, by coming back late at night or with a skanky looking hooker. This is probably my favorite of the three hotels, in part because it's on the ocean and the buffet restaurant is great, although the rooms and service in the Bristol are better. However, if you want to be right in the middle of a bunch of *****s, go with the Executive or Bristol -- they're both close to Le Palace, Elite, and Habano's, and not far from the Veneto and Oasis.

And that's a long answer to a simple question.

[QUOTE=PaulGore]I think this place BBT is a blast the girls were busting my balls for spending the better part of two weeks in there it is a real dirtbomb bar but I love the place it a real roadhouse and being the solo gringo people keep a eye out for me. I did get out to David and the of islandbocas del toro. In David I found a couple of brothols and another place on the highnway called macomba a great country Panama. Pick up a 18 yo on the highway what a smoker non pro I gave her food some cloths and a few bucks for the bus total cost 3 days 65 dollars. I was down to Colombia in May for thee weeks rented a car in Bogota. My girlfriend flew in from barrquillla and we drove around over a good part of the country about 1600 miles a beauiful contry and people. I will try to be in Pamana in Dec.[/QUOTE]

In December, on my way back from Cartagena I'm stopping off in Panama for 3 nights; Dec 4,5,6. I'm certainly going to stop into Baro Boca for a look. It sounds like a place I'd like to visit with a wingman though.
Hoser

Guys, just to (kindly) get things straight once and for all (lol):

1. The correct name of the place is "CANTINA LA BOCATOREÑA", where "Ñ" is pronounced as "GN" in French (e.g. as in "COGNAC").

2. You guys know what "CANTINA" is, don't you? (lol) By the way, the first word was never "BARO", but "BAR" instead.

3. "BOCATOREÑA" is the name of the people who where born or live in "BOCAS DEL TORO" Province, located in the Western Atlantic coast of Panama (North of Chiriqui Province, and next to Costa Rica).

Happy hunting! :D

[QUOTE=LatinJaguar27]Guys, just to (kindly) get things straight once and for all (lol):

1. The correct name of the place is "CANTINA LA BOCATOREÑA", where "Ñ" is pronounced as "GN" in French (e.g. as in "COGNAC").

2. You guys know what "CANTINA" is, don't you? (lol) By the way, the first word was never "BARO", but "BAR" instead.

3. "BOCATOREÑA" is the name of the people who where born or live in "BOCAS DEL TORO" Province, located in the Western Atlantic coast of Panama (North of Chiriqui Province, and next to Costa Rica).

Happy hunting! :D[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the clarification! I would have had the taxi drive around the fish market for 2 hours while looking for the place. However, in my twisted mind it will always be Bare Baca Torena.
Hoser

This update goes along with my report found here:[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1894&page=8&pp=15[/url]

Had an overnight layover in PTY on my way to CTG flying Copa Airlines. Again stayed at the Las Vegas and again for the rate of $60.50.

Venetto quality and quantity was down on this night (Wednesday), but I believe that this fluctuates on the day of the week and what the hotel decides to do with "working girls" on particular night. Went to Habano's, Bodequita, and Miami Club and was not too impressed (probably because I knew what would await me in CTG). The prices were in the $100 range with the time and services negotiable. On the other hand, I did go to Le Palace and was impressed with the increase of the number of girls with the "girl next door look" (my type) in addition to the normal cosmetically enhanced chicas. However, the prices were still ridiculous-- $200-$300 for the girls and an additonal $150 for the house. Did not partake at all in PTY-- saving my energy (and my money) for CTG.

PS>My update on CTG is in the Colombia section.

[QUOTE=Hoser352]Thanks for the clarification! I would have had the taxi drive around the fish market for 2 hours while looking for the place. However, in my twisted mind it will always be Bare Baca Torena.

Hoser[/QUOTE]the sign on the door clearly states Boca Torena in two words it is made of wood and semi round. I went to the Economcy Hotel looking for a old girl friend that said she worked at the hotel only to be told by an empolyee when I show her picture that is posted in the Aruba tread on April 5th under a real piece of work that she realy worked at baro boca Torena. I guess that is what to expect when you meet your girlfriend in Campo Alegre in Curacao. Cheek out the photos and you will see some of the better stuff at boca Torena see you there. Some men make love in there boots and dream there are between silk sheets oooh ya ooh yaa.

Does anyone know where I can buy Viagra or Cialis in Panama City.

I am staying at the Vineto Hotel.

Thanks

Does anyone know where I can buy Viagra or Cialis in Panama City.

I am staying at the Vineto Hotel.

O. K., here goes.

This is a report from my visit July 22nd thru 28th. Arrived in PTY and got a ride from the girl recommended by the owner of the apartment, Mura, great girl, though not a real looker. My buddy in from Afghanistan arrived a day earlier and had been sitting in the apt the whole time as he had never read the forum even though he speaks Spanish. So we go out to a club recommended by Mura called guru? , could be wrong and they are having a televised something or other. Sausage-fest, so we head out. Walked around a little and after stopping at another club that wanted $10 cover we grabbed a cab and went where the driver recommended, turns out to be Cotton Club. Now at this point I'm blitzed, because the bartenders in Panama pour a ton of liquor in their drinks. So we pay the $15 cover and I wind up talking to a chick that glommed on to me until we left, bought her MANY drinks at $15 each, DUMB. My bro bangs a chick there for like $300. We then go to Elite II where another so so chica rides my coattails to a huge bar bill. My bro takes her and another decent girl home at 4 am. I find out later he paid $600 for both, however I spent almost $400 and didn't even get laid. At that point I am almost black out blind drunk. The story gets much better don't worry. The next day we head to habana's but it's only 3 or 4 in the afternoon, no one there. So we ask directions and after about 30 minutes wind up at Monolo's restaurant, grab a bite to eat and flirt with some girl's at a nearby table. We then head into veneto casino, guess who is there, yep the same girls at Monolo's. We talk to them and my friend takes a liking to one so they head out. I stick around and play the penny slots for about an hour and find a solid 9 named Alejandra she asks for cien I counter with 70 she says 80 so we leave. Immediate DFK in the taxi she smells great light brown almost blonde hair great Big boobs nices legs, great face. We get to the apt and my buddy opens the door and his girl had left already. Alejandra and I get down to business BBBJ didn't even ask for it. This girl is amazing great skin, she looks American but shes from Bogota. Amazing sexo for like 3 hrs. Heaven! Total GFE. Set up a date with her for the next day and go to an Italian restaurant and club viva a group of dance clubs on the causeway and banged her all night and the next morning for $100. Fucking great. We make plans to meet in Miami in September when she visits her sister. No charge and she says she will let me stay with her at her sisters. She said she was 28 but looked younger, who knows. The next night bagged a chick that looked great in a bang me yellow dress. Huge looking boobs. This girl was wild, right in the middle of the casino veneto, my new FAVORITE hangout, she says to me in a really serious tone, and loudly" Baby. You, me. FUCKY, FUCKY! " completed with wild hip thrusts, almost died of embarrassment and laughter. Agreed on $80 after she asked for $150! So we head back but when we get there she won't kiss me and her boobjob was not the best but I persevered and banged the shit out of her anyway. She insisted on giving me her e-mail her name was Tatiana and hell I might even write her, but anyway onto the panoche. Next night Saturday pick up a girl named Natalia and this girl was SMOKING. With like 38 ddd's tiny waist and ass to put Jlo out of business. FUCK. So she says cien I counter with $80 and she won't budge. So I go for cien. Got to have her. Sorry if I paid too much for the chicas but these were the best prices I could get. After the night before I was thinking maybe I was going to get hosed but in the taxi she initiated DEEEEEP FK, this girl's mom must have gotten knocked up by Gene Simmons because she inherited his tongue. Freakin HAWT! We are all over each other in the cab and when we got to the apt I nearly ripped her clothes off, her body was a temple and was on my knees praying, sweet lord. Fucked for like 2hrs broke the condom and even though I knew it or thought so I kept bangin her. When we switched positions she saw it and I got a fresh one though she didn't seem mad. Another 30 minutes and we broke the bed, I kid you not. So we moved the mattress on to the floor and I finished her doggy and kept stroking her for a good 5 minutes after the nut till there wasn't much left. She gave me her number but I wasn't able to set up anything with her the next day, she said she and her girls were doing mani, pedi, and other beauty stuff, whatever. Was gonna call her that night but ran into Alejandra again, so I spent the night with her for cien and left the next day. Got ahold of Natalia and I'm gonna meet her in Cartagena first week of October for $600 for a week, I pay for food and an apt. Now my question is, am I paying too much? I figure since she lives in Cali that it will cost her at least $100 roundtrip to get to Cartagena. And if it doesn't work out I can Monger the nights away with the local girls.

What do you fellow pervs think?

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Dear Aba,

First of all thanks for your service.

Second, yes you paid too much.

Having said that, you enjoyed yourself so that is good memories.

Next time, post a notice in the Forum letting us know you are going to hook you up with the right people.

As far as prices, you should pay between $60 to $80 depending on quality. There are some massage parlors where you can find real diamonds for $40 for a session.
In regards to your trip, giving the girl $600 is a fortune. This is what a dentist makes in a week down there, so please reconsider.

Next time try La Bodeguita and Miami Club. The first is a dance club where pro's go and the latter is a strip joint with on-site facilities. The more game you show the better the pricing. Also set up dates outside the clubs to avoid paying bar fines.

Take care,

PJ Sam

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]O. K., here goes.

This is a report from my visit July 22nd thru 28th. Arrived in PTY and got a ride from the girl recommended by the owner of the apartment, Mura, great girl, though not a real looker. My buddy in from Afghanistan arrived a day earlier and had been sitting in the apt the whole time as he had never read the forum even though he speaks Spanish. So we go out to a club recommended by Mura called guru? , could be wrong and they are having a televised something or other. Sausage-fest, so we head out. Walked around a little and after stopping at another club that wanted $10 cover we grabbed a cab and went where the driver recommended, turns out to be Cotton Club. Now at this point I'm blitzed, because the bartenders in Panama pour a ton of liquor in their drinks. So we pay the $15 cover and I wind up talking to a chick that glommed on to me until we left, bought her MANY drinks at $15 each, DUMB. My bro bangs a chick there for like $300. We then go to Elite II where another so so chica rides my coattails to a huge bar bill. My bro takes her and another decent girl home at 4 am. I find out later he paid $600 for both, however I spent almost $400 and didn't even get laid. At that point I am almost black out blind drunk. The story gets much better don't worry. The next day we head to habana's but it's only 3 or 4 in the afternoon, no one there. So we ask directions and after about 30 minutes wind up at Monolo's restaurant, grab a bite to eat and flirt with some girl's at a nearby table. We then head into veneto casino, guess who is there, yep the same girls at Monolo's. We talk to them and my friend takes a liking to one so they head out. I stick around and play the penny slots for about an hour and find a solid 9 named Alejandra she asks for cien I counter with 70 she says 80 so we leave. Immediate DFK in the taxi she smells great light brown almost blonde hair great Big boobs nices legs, great face. We get to the apt and my buddy opens the door and his girl had left already. Alejandra and I get down to business BBBJ didn't even ask for it. This girl is amazing great skin, she looks American but shes from Bogota. Amazing sexo for like 3 hrs. Heaven! Total GFE. Set up a date with her for the next day and go to an Italian restaurant and club viva a group of dance clubs on the causeway and banged her all night and the next morning for $100. Fucking great. We make plans to meet in Miami in September when she visits her sister. No charge and she says she will let me stay with her at her sisters. She said she was 28 but looked younger, who knows. The next night bagged a chick that looked great in a bang me yellow dress. Huge looking boobs. This girl was wild, right in the middle of the casino veneto, my new FAVORITE hangout, she says to me in a really serious tone, and loudly" Baby. You, me. FUCKY, FUCKY! " completed with wild hip thrusts, almost died of embarrassment and laughter. Agreed on $80 after she asked for $150! So we head back but when we get there she won't kiss me and her boobjob was not the best but I persevered and banged the shit out of her anyway. She insisted on giving me her e-mail her name was Tatiana and hell I might even write her, but anyway onto the panoche. Next night Saturday pick up a girl named Natalia and this girl was SMOKING. With like 38 ddd's tiny waist and ass to put Jlo out of business. FUCK. So she says cien I counter with $80 and she won't budge. So I go for cien. Got to have her. Sorry if I paid too much for the chicas but these were the best prices I could get. After the night before I was thinking maybe I was going to get hosed but in the taxi she initiated DEEEEEP FK, this girl's mom must have gotten knocked up by Gene Simmons because she inherited his tongue. Freakin HAWT! We are all over each other in the cab and when we got to the apt I nearly ripped her clothes off, her body was a temple and was on my knees praying, sweet lord. Fucked for like 2hrs broke the condom and even though I knew it or thought so I kept bangin her. When we switched positions she saw it and I got a fresh one though she didn't seem mad. Another 30 minutes and we broke the bed, I kid you not. So we moved the mattress on to the floor and I finished her doggy and kept stroking her for a good 5 minutes after the nut till there wasn't much left. She gave me her number but I wasn't able to set up anything with her the next day, she said she and her girls were doing mani, pedi, and other beauty stuff, whatever. Was gonna call her that night but ran into Alejandra again, so I spent the night with her for cien and left the next day. Got ahold of Natalia and I'm gonna meet her in Cartagena first week of October for $600 for a week, I pay for food and an apt. Now my question is, am I paying too much? I figure since she lives in Cali that it will cost her at least $100 roundtrip to get to Cartagena. And if it doesn't work out I can Monger the nights away with the local girls.

What do you fellow pervs think?

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[QUOTE=Aba Corrado] Got ahold of Natalia and I'm gonna meet her in Cartagena first week of October for $600 for a week, I pay for food and an apt. Now my question is, am I paying too much? I figure since she lives in Cali that it will cost her at least $100 roundtrip to get to Cartagena. And if it doesn't work out I can Monger the nights away with the local girls.

What do you fellow pervs think?

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Based on your description of her looks and her tongue that sounds like an O.K. deal to me. Given that you've only spent a few hours with her and she could end up being the ***** from hell, I don't think I'd pay her all $600 up front. Nice report - thanks for taking the time to write it up.

I plan on giving her $200 up front and the remainder at the end of the week. Damn, I wish I had consulted you fellas before negotiating. I'd hate to try to re-bargain with her and wind up with a Colombian neck-tie. Come to think of it wasn't Lorena Bobbitt Colombian, hahaha.

I plan on giving her $200 up front and the remainder at the end of the week. Damn, I wish I had consulted you fellas before negotiating. I'd hate to try to re-bargain with her and wind up with a Colombian neck-tie. Come to think of it wasn't Lorena Bobbitt Colombian, hahaha.

Good report there. I guess now you know better where to go in PTY and specially to avoid the drinks for the ladies and to take it a bit slower with yours. Indeed bartenders (and everybody else over there) are generous when it comes to putting alcohol into a drink.

I think you got fair prices at Venetto for the standard (which is not in this case a massage parlour or casa). You may have gone a bit lower but it still seems quite fair to me since you report having good experiences with the girls. Still, as mentioned by our fellow monger before me, there are still other options for you to try next time.

As for the 600 for the girl in Colombia, seems like 100 a night which is not really expensive (in my opinion). My recommendation is that you pay her at the end. She would have to please you in order to keep the deal as agreed. After all you are paying for accommodation and food (and I guess for the fun too) so she won't need the money until the end.

[QUOTE=Aba Corrado]Damn, I wish I had consulted you fellas before negotiating. I'd hate to try to re-bargain with her and wind up with a Colombian neck-tie. Come to think of it wasn't Lorena Bobbitt Colombian, hahaha.[/QUOTE]

Does Natalia from Cali have long black, straight hair? If so I know her from your description -- she's drop dead gorgeous and $100/night isn't a bad price. You'd be lucky to find one from LDV in Cartagena that hot and that good in bed for 24 hours for 200,000 pesos, unless she likes you and/or has a long term agenda. You did good.

Yes, long straight, black hair and a small mole near her chin, and her voice is pure sex. She was fantastico! Was she with two heavier chicas when you saw her? Hell I think I'll have to marry this woman, hahahaha! Mongers help me.

Hey Tiny,

Do You have a subscription so I can send you a private message?

Aba, I do get PM's, but apparently you don't as I sent you one and it got bounced. I think it's only $19.95/year to subscribe -- well worth the price.

Yeah I bought a subscription yesterday but I guess it takes a little while to be able to PM. I'll be sure keep trying.

Sounds like you got consistent GFE at Veneto which is great. I think this place offers a nice short term alternative to Golden Times and Miami. Can't get consistent GFE at those places.

To all newbies, avoid takeouts at Le Palace, Elite, etc........... There is no reason to pay the house that much!!!! If you absolutely have to have those girls negotiate to meet them after work. When I was in Panama earlier this year, I was absolutely amazed how many rookies were dropping hundreds of dollars on takeout.

Happy Hunting
Termas Time

It has been a couple years since I have gone out in Panama City.

When I have been there before i went to Habano's and Bodequita Bar.

Are there any other places that are a bar type of take out place in the city.

I am looking for a place to go on a Tuesday and a Wednesday night.

I like Habano's and have only been to Bodequita once.

I always like to go into Habano's just to see what is there.

I usually stay at the Venito Hotel, but that can be up or down depending on the time of the night.

Let me know if there are any other suggestions.

Thank you.

Just FYI, there was a huge raid by the D.A last friday in calle uruguay, moods, people, mint and la bodeguita got raided. I was hangin in moods and they didnt find anything wrong, now as far as I know many got taken by the police at la bodeguita.

Anyone coming might exercise some caution if going to la bodeguita

Immigration conducted raids at Capri and La Gloria two weeks ago, and at Golden Time the week before. ALL of the girls were taken to the Immigration Shelter, and "retained for investigation" until the next day. As a result, some of them were deported.

Check the news report in Spanish:

[url]http://www.prensa.com/hoy/panorama/1872620.asp[/url]

"What do you fellow pervs think?"

Just curious Aba, how much coin did you and your wingman drop on that little trip? Sound's like some serious Obama money, lol.

I've yet to hit Hananos when the chicas converge, but my wingman described it as filled with knockout Columbianas. However, I did make my first run at Bodeguita and was quite impressed.

The girls in Veneto can be pretty bold. Had one Columbiana, Yuli is her name, massaging mi la pinga at the bar for about an hour before we headed off to my hotel.

Hoping to hit PTY over Thanksgiving, if I survive my upcoming booked trips to SDQ and SJO. Airfare's will soon be on the rise.

On chicas, only about $500. Overall about $2000 including airfare and accomodations.

My bud on the other hand dropped MUCHO DINERO. But he was getting over a divorce and was coming from a contract job in the middle east so he had the fundage!

I'm not sure which section to put it in so forgive my redundance if it's in the "General" section as well. I was highly recommended the Torres de Alba, which is unfortunatly offering a great price right now because they are under construction starting at 7am (Told to me by the hotel as well as a friend who lives there). I like Plaza Paitilla but it's not near enough to the action. Coral Suites gets so-so reviews and is high at $150. Las Vegas was recommended somewhere here but I'll be with a gf, so I'm not sure if it's nice enough.

Can SOMEBODY please help me with a hotel or two recommendation? Preferably in the Cangrejo area? I'll have plenty of times to slip out for some individual action so it would help. Thanks, friends!

Oh and I can pay $100 mas o menos.

[QUOTE=GauntMan]Just FYI, there was a huge raid by the D.A last friday in calle uruguay, moods, people, mint and la bodeguita got raided. I was hangin in moods and they didnt find anything wrong, now as far as I know many got taken by the police at la bodeguita.

Anyone coming might exercise some caution if going to la bodeguita[/QUOTE]

Guys, the raids are still going, this time they raided parlor named Centro Spa in Via Porras and another "mansion" in a high class neighborhood.

Again exercise caution when going to massage parlors. Stay on the regular more open staging areas like the venetto. Id say to stay clear of habanos, as Im pretty sure its a primer target of the mayor's office during the raids, as the mayor himself is leading the raids

Why are they doing this? What is the purpose behind these prosecutions? Is the mood of the people dictating this new direction or is it a couple of people's hair up their butt that's causing this? Please don't tell me that authorities are looking for kickbacks, that would put a new low in low. Panama has always been happy, go about your business if you are not hurting yourself or anybody else. It has a rat smell to it.
[QUOTE=GauntMan]Guys, the raids are still going, this time they raided parlor named Centro Spa in Via Porras and another "mansion" in a high class neighborhood.

Again exercise caution when going to massage parlors. Stay on the regular more open staging areas like the venetto. Id say to stay clear of habanos, as Im pretty sure its a primer target of the mayor's office during the raids, as the mayor himself is leading the raids[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Why are they doing this? What is the purpose behind these prosecutions? Is the mood of the people dictating this new direction or is it a couple of people's hair up their butt that's causing this? Please don't tell me that authorities are looking for kickbacks, that would put a new low in low. Panama has always been happy, go about your business if you are not hurting yourself or anybody else. It has a rat smell to it.[/QUOTE]

I wish it was only people wanting kickbacks!! this was something that was coming any time soon. There was an ever increasing crime rate, we started to have many, and I mean many drug related executions, robberies, assaults that were never seen before in Panama.
Unfortunately, most of them were related directly to columbians or foreigners. Now this was an itch that the current government had since a long time ago, because mainly, most of the stuff going with brothels and the like was patronized by the past government.
As a funny note, one of the illegal brothels was 150m away from the current presidents house!!
Also, right now there are a lot of illegal aliens in the country, mainly prostitues and things were really starting to go out of control.
Not just raids are going on, the local highways, corredor norte and sur, are being audited because there are suspicions that the construction companies that have been administering them have already recovered the investment and they are keeping their mouths shut, apart, the current scandal involves the former president Perez Balladares aka el toro(the bull) with casino concessions that were granted to companies were he has family links and money being deposited into accounts that handle his private plane and jet.

They are also considering right now putting in a new tax on alcohol and smokes, and even limiting the working hours for clubs.

I recommend that you have your passport/visas handy, they are taking even tourists to police stations just by being around the vicinity

I have also noticed that the pogrum is being executed online also!! the following websites have been taken down

elcomplaciente.com
jetseteleganciaintl.com
girlpanama.com
gatitaspty.com

will keep monitoring

[QUOTE=GauntMan]this was something that was coming any time soon. There was an ever increasing crime rate, we started to have many, and I mean many drug related executions, robberies, assaults that were never seen before in Panama.[/QUOTE]

Panama's crime has nothing to do with undocumented colombian hookers and clandestine *****houses, and there are certainly bigger fish to fry.

Personally busting brothels on TV makes for great political grandstanding. But rules are rules, so those joints had it coming.

If they start busting Golden Time and Miami, then we can measure a monumental shift in panamanian pay-for-play.

free here,

yeah, i have to side with horn on this one. cant quite see the relation between crime (which, yes is on the rise here in pty) and sluts that are working illegal. the last thing they should be worried about here are the colombianas.

in the time i have been here, i find that the law enforcement does a different type of "witch hunt" every few months or so. one quarter it will be a "hunt" on dudes having sex with **** girls. next quarter, a "hunt" on stopping corruption. next, colombian sluts, drugs, etc, etc. they have done this in the past, but im not quite sure for this long.
but in closing i have to say it is quite annoying considering that panama as a whole has much larger problems then colombianas selling sex!
all that being said, i was in a $%^ house last night that got raided last week and of course, it seemed like business as usual (suprise, suprise) besides a few chicas that are now back in colombia due to deportation.

the relationship between colombia and panama share is very akward to say the least. they hate each other (most of the panamanian chicas i know wont even talk to a colombian chica) but "need" each other at the same time.

free

FS, probably goes back to the original history, where Panama broke away from Colombia, and began the canal. Just sort of grew from there.

I have a couple of T-shirts I bought in Panama, one says "Panama Lo Nuestro" (Panama, It's ours), and I will purposely wear it to a Medellin casa to see the reaction. One chica said, why are you wearing that, you don't like us here" ( porque tu lo vestirse, tu no nos gusta?), all I said was it makes for good competition

I was wondering if there is a less cost hotel near the Veneto area.

I wanted to stay in walking distance to the Veneto, the Cigar Bar.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]Panama's crime has nothing to do with undocumented colombian hookers and clandestine *****houses, and there are certainly bigger fish to fry.

Personally busting brothels on TV makes for great political grandstanding. But rules are rules, so those joints had it coming.

If they start busting Golden Time and Miami, then we can measure a monumental shift in panamanian pay-for-play.[/QUOTE]

you might be right, but the pros and clandestine brothels(most massage parlors) where just the weak link on the chain.
And it does have to do with the columbians in general, as for the columbians to enter panama, they only have to prove that they have monetary backup(like 500 cash) to enter, no visa if im not mistaken, and it was happening that there were hitman coming in the morning, doing their jobs and leaving on the afternoon flights.
But well, all hell broke lose, just try to stay out of massage parlors, and a least keep your tourism card and/or copy of your passport handy

[QUOTE=Travelwind50]I was wondering if there is a less cost hotel near the Veneto area.

I wanted to stay in walking distance to the Veneto, the Cigar Bar.

Does anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Try the Marbella Hotel, two blocks to Veneto. They run about $50 - $55 per night, best to contact them direct to make a reservation.

[url]http://www.hmarbella.com[/url]

well, the raids are going, latest casualty was club miami that was raided last night(if im not mistaken)
The Health Minister was part of the raid along with the mayor and some other authorities

Ive been told that all freelancers have taken refuge in the venetto, as habanos is one of the primary targets that is going to be raided soon