Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok

[QUOTE=1Ball]I am quite hairy too Mick...............from the ears down.

A tissue you say? let it dry and savor it in the morning. :D[/QUOTE]
I would be nice to go naturally bald on the dick and balls.

I dropped into the lodge on my latest trip having made the decision not to stay there. I can't put my finger on exactly whi I chose to stay elsewhere - probably because the rooms look fairly basic.

Anyway, aftr not being 100% happy with my hotel, I regretted not staying at Livingstones. I cecked out the rooms and they were fine.

I also had a couple of drinks in the Sports Bar and there looked to be a small group who I suspected were ISG members. I didn't introduce myself. Curiously there was a guy playing pool with his earphones in. A board member?

[QUOTE=Rambis Youth]I dropped into the lodge on my latest trip having made the decision not to stay there. I can't put my finger on exactly whi I chose to stay elsewhere - probably because the rooms look fairly basic.

Anyway, aftr not being 100% happy with my hotel, I regretted not staying at Livingstones. I cecked out the rooms and they were fine.

I also had a couple of drinks in the Sports Bar and there looked to be a small group who I suspected were ISG members. I didn't introduce myself. Curiously there was a guy playing pool with his earphones in. A board member?[/QUOTE]
Guys who are used to 5 star should not stay at Livingstones in my opinion as its not trying to be oppulent nor pompous.
But it is very nice for me at this price and I usually consider 3 star is adequate for me.

As I don't actually understand the star system I imagine that LL is a little more than 3 star but not quite 4 star based on overall impression.

Free internet for the whole day is a really big plus for me.
I cannot find a better Hotel for the same price except for maybe occasional low season special.

All the girls I take back to the rooms seem to like them. I recall good comments on the bathrooms and on the artistic lamps that give a romantic effect. Girls often want the air-con switched off temporarily when they come out of bathroom after a shower and still wet/damp as they are not used to cool air. This is easy enough with the remote control.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]As I don't actually understand the star system I imagine that LL is a little more than 3 star but not quite 4 star based on overall impression. [/QUOTE]

Star system has nothing to do with how good a room looks but more about services/amenities/hardware available or provided. Health and safety + Fire compliance also plays a big part.

In any case, the star rating system in asia is completely erroneous as most properties are "Self rated".

I aim to be showing up at LL late July but haven't determined exact dates yet. I should be able to get free for a drink this time Nic as won't disappear to Krabi/Phi Phi etc. next time.

Besides, more time is needed next trip to investigate a few soapies (and get a couple of giks in too).
All things that were planned for last trip that never got done :(

I spent three weeks in Land of smiles this time and reached Bangkok on 23rd of May and was received at airport by my very beautiful Thai girl friend and was helped in going through all immigration procedures very swiftly and my baggage was collected even before I reached at baggage belt because of her some connections.
I was really impressed by all this and when I got out my girl friend was waiting outside and she received me with all the love and emotions. This was my first meeting with her as we were seeing each other for the first time and before that were only in contact through e mails and telephone and on net through web cams. We became good friends with time and later on I came to know that woman I am talking is a real known figure in her country and amongst top professional in her field. She is young and very beautiful woman who can easily be rated 8 or 9 in any scale. I really felt lucky the moment I saw her in reality.

I was taken to my hotel by her in her new top brand car and we checked in together in one of five star hotels in Bangkok. I stayed with her for four nights and spent most of time just together in a very romantic way and did not go out much as we both wanted to spend maximum time together and used to be out for lunch, dinners and drinks and then back to our beautiful suite.

On first day she had to go for her work for some hours in evening and I went to see my friend Giotto in Livingstone’s and said hello to him and told him that I will check in Livingstone’s after a few days. I played few games of pool in sports bar and said hello to my some known girls and then came back to be with my girl as she was also back. After spending five beautiful romantic days with her I said good bye to her and promised to see her very soon again before I go back to my country.

I arrived in Livingstone’s after checking out and was greeted by staff warmly as usual. My room was ready with all the amenities I asked them to put in my room and after getting fresh and saying hello to Mr. G and Mrs. G I went in sports bar and played pool with girls and later in evening at that time as I was only customer in bar and girls were sitting and waiting so I offered them drinks hence ordered on the house to every one present there including restaurant staff.

Thai people are so nice and such small gestures can make them so happy and that’s why I like this country so much. That night two girls wanted to be with me and a big confusion was created when one girl left one of her customer despite she was already bar fined and told Mrs. G that she wanted to be with me as she did not know earlier that I will be coming otherwise she would have never let herself bar fined by any one. Matter was resolved as I promised the other girl that next night I will bar fine her and she should let me stay tonight with this girl. Mr. G was really amazed to see this entire scene and was wondering the reasons of my popularity amongst these girls.

So first night I stayed with this girl who left her customer because of me and she was quite happy to be with me and we spent very good time together. I told her that I am a big butter fly to which she had no objection and she allowed me to have as much fun as I wanted.

Next night I was with the other girl. This girl is also very loving and good though I wanted to stay with her in my last visit too but could not get the chance because I was with my girl from Monet at that time who stayed through out with me. When I told this to her she felt very happy as she could easily remember me last time when I offered her drinks during the stay. I noted some interesting observations about her during my last stay and she was astonished when I told her about my observations as she never thought that some one can observe her so closely.
I told her that she tries to hide herself whenever she sees some young customer coming in bar and makes her self prominent when some old and aged customer walks in and she laughed and laughed on my this observation and agreed that I was 100% right and the reason was that she knows that she will not have to work hard with a old age client comparing with young one as old one finally ends in a easy hand job.

I asked her that I will bar fine only if she promises to come while having sex and she really feels hot for me to which she promised and I have to confess that she really did come and enjoyed with me like a pure girl friend.

This was in contrast to behavior of most of the bar girls as it is usually difficult for them to come themselves while having sex with clients and at times they try to have a fake orgasm just to satisfy the clients.

PART TWO

After these two nights now I wanted to have some other beautiful girl with me as I always look for a tall, fair color girl long hair, sharp nose and sexy figure girl as I myself am a tall guy. So on my new hunt now I decided to try different escort agencies which I surfed from Bangkok tonight dot com escort directory and if u surf their sites u may find pictures of some very attractive girls and I decided to try them so I started my communication with them almost one month before I had to go to Bangkok.

I contacted the following agencies and independent girls.

Jenny Wong, Palmy, Bam, Appie, Fon, Pinky, Suniya and Kai all of them advertise on Bangkok tonight independent escort sections and in sexy escorts add Asia section.
Jenny Wong.

She advertises herself in many escort sites and is a tall girl and claims to be a model a few years ago. She is fair in color and is about 5ft 7 inches. I contacted this girl on phone and sms in last Feb. I visited and after confirming every thing with me she refused to come at last moment just because she did not have good experience with Indian or subcontinent customer in the past.

This time again as she refused last time even to see me I was quite curios to see and meet her and I convinced her to once see me at least and meet me and if she does not like me even then I will give her 1000 baht and she may go back in ten minutes and may be this thing appealed to her and she decided to come to see me in Livingstone and asked for a about two hours to reach there as she live quite far from my place. So just to kill time I went to Emporium just for window shopping and got her call quite early than I was expecting her and she was waiting outside my room.

I invited her in and reverse happened as I found her quite overweight and fat girl though may be in past she had been a model if she was as slim as she claims but now I did not want her as she was not up to my standard so I gave her 1000 baht as I promised her and asked her to leave and this was shocking for her as now she wanted to stay contrary to what she asked for upfront money and things like that and now she was insisting me to not to send her back and she was ready to stay for free and was trying to convince me to be with her at least for some hours and dinner etc and she will not take a single penny for that and was ready to have sex for free. I accepted her request and allowed her to spend a few hours in my room but no sex and this was something painful for her as I was he first customer who was refusing sex with her even free She removed all her clothes and got in bed with me and came over me and tried her best to seduce me and in the end had her orgasm while rubbing herself over me. I also got hard when she was doing all this though I was in my undergarments as before getting in bed I removed my trousers. Either she did not have sex for quite some days to me it was strange that a call girl had her orgasm like that as I have never experienced such thing ever in past.

When she realized I was not at all induced or seduced she decided to leave and got ready with a heavy heart and before leaving requested again to let her stay for a night at least. I don’t know may be she was short of money or what but I got scared when she was insisting so much and thought that she might be having some disease or any problem so I excused myself politely and she left.

This girl can be contacted on her cell number and e mail given in her adds on different web sites and if u try to contact her from overseas she will ask for some upfront money too as she says that she wants to be sure that she is talking to some time waster or to genuine customer and obviously I refused her straight forwardly and met her in this way finally.

She was in the end apologetic that she did misbehave previously just because she did not have good impression about persons from subcontinent and promised that next time when I get back she will get herself slim again and will become fit as she used to be in past. According to her she has been charging 20,000 baht too from her customers in the past and may be she is right but now I doubt any one can give her that much money in her current shape. I must confess that pics she has posted in ads are really attractive and beautiful and she might have been beautiful when she was slim and tall as shown in pictures.

Fon, Pinky and Suniya are not independent but their pictures are fake and they are being advertised by one guy with name of Jim and may be he has some girls and he is their pimp and he advertises her girls in this way with fake pictures so I did not try him as I saw same name of girl with different pictures even with taxi drivers.
Kai escort now is available only for short time and she does not like to go for long time or on longer days with one person and work for short time mostly and she has raised her rates too much and up to 18,000 baht per day and for two hours she says she will take 7000 baht.

Same is the case with Appie she asks for 34000 baht for full day but for two hours she can come for 6000 to 8000 baht and this girl is working some where during day time but she is beautiful as she insists that she has genuine pictures in her add but I did not try her as I was looking for a long time girl.

I will write about agencies now next time.

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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I should be able to get free for a drink this time Nic as won't disappear to Krabi/Phi Phi etc. next time.

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Great news! :)
I'll see you at LL end of July then

Well some of us are sitting in the sports bar right now eating a good meal and having some fun.

Arrived on Sunday and this is the first chance to get to the site as I have been a little occupied. Being well taken care of as usual and there is a host of some new talent the bar which seems to be very attractive and attentive. And of course there is some old favorites still around.

The whole staff in general just makes me feel like this is a second home. As far as a star system goes, that's a bunch of junk. You go where you are comfortable and you enjoy.

Will up date more in the other threads but haven't done any mongering since being picked up at the airport I have been completely exhausted and busy.

Don't worry mates, have bought a crap load of lady drinks for many of your ladies...

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I arrived in Livingstone’s after checking out and was greeted by staff warmly as usual. My room was ready with all the amenities I asked them to put in my room and after getting fresh and saying hello to Mr. G and Mrs. G I went in sports bar and played pool with girls and later in evening at that time as I was only customer in bar and girls were sitting and waiting so I offered them drinks hence ordered on the house to every one present there including restaurant staff.

Thai people are so nice and such small gestures can make them so happy and that’s why I like this country so much. That night two girls wanted to be with me and a big confusion was created when one girl left one of her customer despite she was already bar fined and told Mrs. G that she wanted to be with me as she did not know earlier that I will be coming otherwise she would have never let herself bar fined by any one. Matter was resolved as I promised the other girl that next night I will bar fine her and she should let me stay tonight with this girl. Mr. G was really amazed to see this entire scene and was wondering the reasons of my popularity amongst these girls.
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Great to read your experiences and I certainly got a good laugh. I would have liked to see that scene in the bar with a girl trying to get un-barfined.
I have experienced a sports girl bar refuse to be available for a customer , just hoping that I might turn up later but with no guarantee. But I have not yet managed to steal an already bar-fined girl. So this is a special achievement.
However I wouldn't make a habit of it if I was you.

I have done nearly the reverse (in Soi Cowboy) where I bar-fined two girls to save them from an overly aggressive arsehole customer, but later allowed one of them a chance to go with someone else of her choice (since I wasn't taking her).

I specially enjoyed the bit about refusing to screw the escort etc. because she wasn't up to scratch.
You offer valuable warnings about using escort services where you have not met the girl before-hand.

Experiences with Escort Agencies.

Now coming to the so called Escort Agencies advertised in Bangkok tonight escort directory section and the one who tries to market them on net. They try to get customers who feel shy to go for hunt themselves and wait for the girls behind doors or the customers who think that by paying more they are going to have some one exceptional and not an ordinary bar girl or go go girl.

Now with these agencies I started my communication one month in advance before going to Thailand and even sent my picture so that they can discuss it with their girls as I asked them that I am interested in a girl who really wants to spend with me at least one week in LOS if she clicks with me. I selected my choice of girls by going through their web sites and asked for long time stay prices so will like to let u know one by one what happened.

I contacted the following agencies.

111cats-lady the lady who responded me was by the name of May and I asked her about Honey, Gip and Wanida. Rates she gave me initially very high but when I insisted her that I will be staying with girl for long time at least a week then she came down to 8,000 Baht per day. During communication on cell phone and sms I came to know that May herself is acting as call center lady and she does not live in Bangkok but as she knows a little bit of English so she provides this service by acting as a bridge between customers and the so called agency. I was very frequently in contact with this lady and finally when I called her while in Bangkok she came with a reply that she has one girl for me Honey but she has recently undergone some eye surgery so she does look good at the moment and if I need her she can come and stay with me. I replied her that I need a good looking girl to be with me not any monster with eyes bulging out she got offended and later refused to send any other girl also.

111Sexy-Love

Lady who answered was with the name of Kiw and I requested her Kob and Waew from her web site and she gave me her final rates for 10,000 Baht per day if I keep the girl for at least five days. She was insisting me to have Waew but I asked her that I want to see Kob first as she looked more attractive in her pictures. When I finally contacted her while in Bangkok she told me that Miss Kob will be visiting me soon and if I don’t like the girl just give her 500 Baht for taxi. The girl when arrived was all together different from the picture and was insisting that her name was Kob and finally said no problem it is business and if I don’t like her she will go back and even don’t need taxi money too.

The girl was not good looking at all but was looking quite young and was fair in color but was also very arrogant. So she called Kiw and told her situation in Thai language and went back and Miss Kiw never bothered to talk to me and say sorry for her act as she was constantly in touch with me for one month and talking about Kob and Waew and later it was proved that girls in picture even do not exist.

First Class Escorts.

Lady who came on phone was Ray and also responded my e mails regularly. I asked for Kiki, Andear and War and she said all the three available and we settled long time stay rates 10,000 Baht per day and she agreed that she will send two girls and I can sit with them and can take the one I like and can send back other girl by giving her taxi money and if I don’t like both I can send them back by giving 500 Baht each as taxi money.

The girls arrived one by one in my room and almost one hour late than the scheduled time and told me that they had to come from far and were stucked in traffic jam so I got chance to talk to one of the girl at least fifteen minutes earlier. She was not the one shown in picture and her name was Ann and was sent to me Andear and she was a school teacher some where and was in need of money so working with agency as escort and was requesting me to take her as she is need of money. I asked her if she can come later if I send her back because I don’t want to pay the agency now as they have not sent the same girl as in picture and after some hesitation and getting assurance that I will not inform the agency she agreed to be with me later and in the mean time the other girl who was sent as Kiki also arrived and she was also not the same girl and her name was Ki. They both were quite embarrassed when they came to know that I have computer in room and are comparing them with pictures on website and they asked for sorry and said they were un aware of what the agency people do and they only get calls from agency and they go to visit the customers that’s all. I refused to take them both as it was a total fraud being played and I asked them both that they can join me later if they like independent of agency but the second girl which came later refused as she said that agency checks them if they are refused later by calling them and can immediately send them to some other customer. This girl was more shrewd and clever but also had good figure though she was not the same as in picture and was worth if could get independently. I gave them 1000 Baht and they left both by saying that they will enjoy somewhere both by having dinner and then go back to their home. Miss Ray was apologetic by saying that she conveyed to agency regarding my request but do not know why they did this and seemed that she again is acting as a call center for the agency.

Bangkok Beauties.

Claire was the person who responded my phone and asked my nationality and refused to give any discount and asked my nationality and later refused totally that they don’t service the clients from subcontinent and if I pay full charges which are around 13000 Baht only then she can send some girl to which I refused.

Bangkok Gold

Goldie is the lady who replies the email or calls and they claim that girls are real as in pictures and for full day they charge 18,000 for first day and then 15,000 Baht for second day onwards and no matter how long I keep the girl they will not give discount. I did not try them as I was of the opinion that if at all I have to spent this much money then why not try elite clubs like Pegasus where u can see many many girls and can pick one of ur own choice.

VIP models

They quote rates for so called film actresses or beauty pageants from Thailand starting from 34000 baht upwards per night and can go to 100000 Baht per day for any super model. I never tried them after getting these rates I don’t know how far they are correct as they claim that if the girl they are sending does not turn out to be same they will charge nothing and give the surety that they all are celebrities. Annie is the lady who replies e mails and at times talk on msn also.

I contacted Dream massage, Ohyes massage, Aancha Massage they all excused to provide by saying they have just normal girls when they came to know that I am really serious to have a classy girl otherwise I will simply refuse them.

In next part I will write my experience about Pegasus the famous elite club in complete details.

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Another enjoyable visit to the Lodge even if it was only a week... did not run into any ISG members this time and think I missed Trav1234 by a day or so...

But the wait staff and general staff overall is getting to know me too well as they know my meal preferences and drink preferences so well I hardly have to ask to anything. The ladies in the sports bar are as attentive and accommodating as ever. Even had one of the girls I barely talked with before go out and buy some local thai items for me that are not well known or stocked in stores and she was happy to do so.

G is still busy with his other work so didn't bug him too much, will save that for next trip, next week ;) Since I don't seem to get into enough trouble myself this past trip I might need his guidance on how to do that.

For those of you who are truly stupid people and would travel to LOS and actually want to get up early and exercise (even after exercising at night ;) )... True Fitness in the Exchange Tower (corner of Asoke and Sukhumvit) let you join for a day, week, month, etc... and it is now connected to the BTS directly. Opens at 6 am every day except Sunday which opens at 8 am, usually about 200 folks there at 6 to 7 am, two levels so not crowded at all, excellent cycling room with free spinners not the crappy exercise bikes (but they have those too down below), etc... Overall the facilities were pretty good. Well worth the 3,000 baht one month membership fee.

And after a steam and such you can be back in your room just in time for more fitness right when she . ;)

Hello Fellow Bestards

Will be in town tomorrow night and Friday. Will be in LL Sports Lounge on Friday night, if anyone wants to join me for a drink.

Duni

Hello Giotto,

I have been a member of ISG for a while, but only looked at this thread recently, as I may be going to Bangkok on business. Livingstone's Lodge looks like a good place to stay at.

Do you have a discounted rate for a stay of one or two weeks (starting sometime in July)? Work is going to be for 6+ months in Bangkok, so I am planning to stay in a serviced apartment or a hotel the first 1-2 weeks or so, and look for an apartment to rent.

fly

PS. The website does not explain the differences in the rooms, superior vs de luxe vd suite. The info would be helpful.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Another enjoyable visit to the Lodge even if it was only a week... did not run into any ISG members this time and think I missed Trav1234 by a day or so... [/QUOTE]

You didn't miss me, I missed LOS completely. Had to delay my trip to help with grand opening of one of our golf courses! Hope to land sometime before end of July.....

My wingman from states did a 36 hour visit last weekend with Miss T and sent me a text message from the double jac in room 115 :D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]You didn't miss me, I missed LOS completely. Had to delay my trip to help with grand opening of one of our golf courses! Hope to land sometime before end of July.....

My wingman from states did a 36 hour visit last weekend with Miss T and sent me a text message from the double jac in room 115 :D[/QUOTE]

Let me know if you can make it, I have two weeks there in July. I know your wingman, he landed before I left and Miss T was telling me about his arrival.

[QUOTE=Flyhere]...
I have been a member of ISG for a while, but only looked at this thread recently, as I may be going to Bangkok on business. Livingstone's Lodge looks like a good place to stay at.

Do you have a discounted rate for a stay of one or two weeks (starting sometime in July)? Work is going to be for 6+ months in Bangkok, so I am planning to stay in a serviced apartment or a hotel the first 1-2 weeks or so, and look for an apartment to rent.
...[/QUOTE]Flyhere,

Write a report and get the ISG discount ... or send an E-Mail, and we find a solution, we like to have longer staying customers here at Livingstone's.

See you in July.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Let me know if you can make it, I have two weeks there in July. I know your wingman, he landed before I left and Miss T was telling me about his arrival.[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

I am physically in Bangkok, too. Mentally - not sure :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]I am physically in Bangkok, too. Mentally - not sure :) ![/QUOTE]

Are you sure you are physically there? I thought you were just a ghost last trip. See you next week, maybe you and me can go get into more trouble with the ladies and create more havoc in our lives.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Flyhere,

Write a report and get the ISG discount ... or send an E-Mail, and we find a solution, we like to have longer staying customers here at Livingstone's.

See you in July.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

It's the chicken or the egg...I can't write a report until I settle in in BKK, but I need a place to stay first before going to BKK.

Just kidding, will PM or send a note through your website once I finalize the dates, and where I'm supposed to be working (near Ekamai skytrain I think).

fly

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Are you sure you are physically there? I thought you were just a ghost last trip. See you next week, maybe you and me can go get into more trouble with the ladies and create more havoc in our lives.[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

Are you talking to ghosts sometime ? As I remember we had a longer discussion when you were here some days ago ... :) .

Trouble - basically you don't need me for creating some more trouble in your private life, you really can do that alone! And if I think about the trouble caused by the females in here I also have already enough of that ...

What's about just going out for a drink to a "safe" place, no girls, a nice glass if wine ... :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

Are you talking to ghosts sometime ? As I remember we had a longer discussion when you were here some days ago ... :) .

Trouble - basically you don't need me for creating some more trouble in your private life, you really can do that alone! And if I think about the trouble caused by the females in here I also have already enough of that ...

What's about just going out for a drink to a "safe" place, no girls, a nice glass if wine ... :) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

I must have been drunk as I remember a quick conversation and that was about it. Missed our meals and longer talks.

I do not need help in picking trouble I do that well enough myself but it is always much more fun when others are in trouble with you ;)

Sure, heading out to other location and even across the street or up the street is fine. Next week... I'm sure you'll know where to find me. Table 208....

Greetings Dr G,

After a too long absence (but still lurking on the forum), I shall be happily back for 2 short stays in the stable.

First, one thing to share about threesomes and Tulip: I did not know that Tulip was a matrimonial agency. That's already 2 of my threesome partners who get married to a foreigner! Fortunately, I still have my faithful one, then she must find every year a new partner to join us. So another girl will appreciate the goodness of Livingstones' beds (they do not crack, they remain silent despite a complete shake-up).

Second, a small request: is the swimming pool now equipped with one or 2 floating devices where we can rest, slowly floating in the water, a hat protecting me from the sun, and a beer in the hand, recovering my lost calories and thinking about the coming night. I am ready to pay for the rent of that equipment.

Anyway, with or without, it will be a pleasure to be back and greet the team again! SWS.

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]Greetings Dr G,

After a too long absence (but still lurking on the forum), I shall be happily back for 2 short stays in the stable.

First, one thing to share about threesomes and Tulip: I did not know that Tulip was a matrimonial agency. That's already 2 of my threesome partners who get married to a foreigner! Fortunately, I still have my faithful one, then she must find every year a new partner to join us. So another girl will appreciate the goodness of Livingstones' beds (they do not crack, they remain silent despite a complete shake-up).

Second, a small request: is the swimming pool now equipped with one or 2 floating devices where we can rest, slowly floating in the water, a hat protecting me from the sun, and a beer in the hand, recovering my lost calories and thinking about the coming night. I am ready to pay for the rent of that equipment.

Anyway, with or without, it will be a pleasure to be back and greet the team again! SWS.[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

I hopefully understand correctly - you are obviously returning to the Lodge. But I had anyway some travel plans for the next few months ... :)

Floating devices ... nicely put. Will see what I can arrange for you.


Giotto

Sitting in the lodge after 10 days away... It's a rough life but someone has to do this hard work. What is surprisingly is that Giotto is in the bar playing pool and not locked up with a computer.

But what is most important is that they have about 5 new girls in the last 10 days. Over the last month there are many many new girls in the stable. Now if only some wing men would get here to test them all out....

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]
First, one thing to share about threesomes and Tulip: I did not know that Tulip was a matrimonial agency. That's already 2 of my threesome partners who get married to a foreigner! [/QUOTE]
I wonder if Tulip girls remain sex fiends after they get married or are bored with it all by then.?

I'll be arriving at the Lodge in about 3 weeks for a short stay.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Now if only some wing men would get here to test them all out....[/QUOTE]

Ah, if only. Too risky for yourself, I guess?

Herr Doktor
Happy birthday to Mrs G. for yesterday, if my addled brain serves me well?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Sitting in the lodge after 10 days away... It's a rough life but someone has to do this hard work. What is surprisingly is that Giotto is in the bar playing pool and not locked up with a computer.

But what is most important is that they have about 5 new girls in the last 10 days. Over the last month there are many many new girls in the stable. Now if only some wing men would get here to test them all out....[/QUOTE]
Are they as pretty as your girl?

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]...
Herr Doktor
Happy birthday to Mrs G. for yesterday, if my addled brain serves me well?[/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,

You brain serves you well - I will pass your congratulations to her.

Thanks!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Are they as pretty as your girl?[/QUOTE]

Many are prettier then my TGF and seem more wild then before but it is slow season so maybe they are just more willing with less customers. Having a pretty fun time being one of the only customer in the bar full of lovely ladies but as Sonic knows I would have something cut off if I attempted anything with any of them.

God it was a long 10 days away from Thailand and so nice to be back.

Had my Birthday the other day... the night before my B day some of the girls at the lodge bought a bunch of flowers and a cake for me (as we were going to be tied up on the actual B Day). Now that's a nice way to spend a BDay for an old man... having a bunch of lovely ladies around you being sweet mouth to you.

Even if the some of the girls change the staff remains the same and some of the girls in the lodge are still around and take good care of folks. So nice having a home away from home.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]as we were going to be tied up on the actual B Day[/QUOTE]

So ....... you've been staying in Giotto's dungeon, have you? ;)

finally will be making it to los. my plane arrives at 5:55 am local time.

special thanks to all the forum members who have posted great information here. i'm pretty confident that i can navigate the airport, exchange some initial currency there, and get a good fare from the taxi's (check the departure on 4th floor.)

i should be arriving at ll around 8:30 to purchase breakfast and drop off my bags until my room is available. then it is out to learn the lay of the land.

since i'm coming from a business trip in india, the jet lag shouldn't be much at all after a week adjusting here. (although the overnight trip and sleeping in a plane seat will be a bi*ch.) may do some initial shopping (generic cialis at the pharmacies on soi 4) and take a good nap in the afternoon.

then after meeting the "oracle of bangkok" (giotto) it is off to work on my mongering "bucket" list. that includes a good soapy, oily, and thai massage; eden club; nana car park and thermae for free lancers; strolling nana, soi cowboy, and patpong areas; bj bars ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], and afterskol sound good), shows. etc.

oh yeah. i also have to do some real tourist stuff and take pictures since this is a tourist vacation and the wife would expect nothing more. of course, she doesn't have to know that i have a cute tg as a local guide while i do the tourist stuff.

damn, i'm going to be busy!

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]So ....... you've been staying in Giotto's dungeon, have you? ;)[/QUOTE]

i sense someone is planning a return visit soon?

LOL

[quote=weatherman]...
then after meeting the "oracle of bangkok" (giotto) it is off to work on my mongering "bucket" list. that includes a good soapy, oily, and thai massage; eden club; nana car park and thermae for free lancers; strolling nana, soi cowboy, and patpong areas; bj bars ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], and afterskol sound good), shows. etc.
...
[/quote]weatherman,

the oracle of bangkok - who is that????

oracle - as i know is a dbms - database management system. so far i am with you.

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] - afterschool - that are no projects i know about in the java world.

beans - btw. - have nothing to do with coffee. beans exist to make the life really difficult - for a java developer.

java - is a programm language. long time ago it was an island somewhere - but this must have changed. i don't know. but i want a coffee. somewhere in java, please (if possible).

bj bars - blow job - that is somehow interesting. never heard about that in the java world. but it must be something like a very badly done job - buggy - just blow it off and forget it - yep - that's a blow job.

now - i could ask the question in the java community what a blow job is - but i think i better don't do that. though i believe that many of the developers of that community would really appreciate one ... :) ...

whatever - life is short.


giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Had my Birthday the other day... [/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

Just a moment - what birthday?

The real one? Yours? That one of the President? His daughter? His grandson?

I heard about a tradition - customs from where you come from. Something like "birthday by definition" - "Christmas - Loriot" - "There must be a reason for the next BBQ party on the balcony ... " ...

May be Karl Marx' birthday ... what do I know.


Giotto

PS: You look like 86 - do you really want to celebrate your birthday? --- Come here, let's celebrate "Grufty back in Bangkok"!



Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

Just a moment - what birthday?

The real one? Yours? That one of the President? His daughter? His grandson?

I heard about a tradition - customs from where you come from. Something like "birthday by definition" - "Christmas - Loriot" - "There must be a reason for the next BBQ party on the balcony ... " ...

May be Karl Marx' birthday ... what do I know.


Giotto

PS: You look like 86 - do you really want to celebrate your birthday? --- Come here, let's celebrate "Grufty back in Bangkok"!



Giotto[/QUOTE]

I feel like I'm 86... this Hua Hin stuff and having a girl take care of me around the clock is tiring work. I need to get back to BKK so I can get some real work done and have an excuse to get some rest. Be back Sat or Sunday or such for a few more days in BKk prior to leaving. It's amazing any girl would want this fat old man.

well i suppose you could take it to the java community but they might have trouble interpreting it.

since i'm a hard core programmer myself i like the allusions. mostly c and c++ though. its really easy to find programmers in the us. just go to any corner in a southern city and ask the guys hanging out if they need a job. most will answer "c. " instant programming workforce. (my apologies to all the hispanic members of the forum.)

arrived here yesterday about 9 am. managed 300 baht from the airport (actually 220 but i gave the driver a good tip because he had to really work around the morning traffic on suk).

took a walk and ride on the sky train to get the lay of the land. air conditioned cars my foot, more like refrigerated cars. you could hang beef in them and it would stay ok. (actually it felt good after walking for an hour.) had intended to stop at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s after they opened but i thought it was on a side street that went through from soi 6 to soi 4. found my error later online back at the lodge. got there in the evening. (see post in bkk reports.)

did get all my non-mongering goals accomplished. picked up generic cialis, got my phone unlocked and grabbed a local sim card and minutes. picked up some extra water.

came back and crashed for 6 hours. got up at 8 pm to head out for a little mongering.

now, what is the best way and time to ask for you at the lodge. i asked the bar tender for the boss yesterday and he said you were asleep and wouldn't be up until around 10. send me a pm to let me know.

[quote=giotto]weatherman,

the oracle of bangkok. who is that?

oracle. as i know is a dbms. database management system. so far i am with you.

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. afterschool. that are no projects i know about in the java world.

beans. btw.. have nothing to do with coffee. beans exist to make the life really difficult. for a java developer.

java. is a programm language. long time ago it was an island somewhere. but this must have changed. i don't know. but i want a coffee. somewhere in java, please (if possible).

bj bars. blow job. that is somehow interesting. never heard about that in the java world. but it must be something like a very badly done job. buggy. just blow it off and forget it. yep. that's a blow job.

now. i could ask the question in the java community what a blow job is. but i think i better don't do that. though i believe that many of the developers of that community would really appreciate one. .

whatever. life is short.

giotto[/quote]

[QUOTE=Weatherman]....
Oh yeah. I also have to do some real tourist stuff and take pictures since this is a tourist vacation and the wife would expect nothing more. Of course, she doesn't have to know that I have a cute TG as a local guide while I do the tourist stuff.

Damn, I'm going to be busy![/QUOTE]
Its a tough life in Bangkok. Trying to fit in some "tourism".

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
But what is most important is that they have about 5 new girls in the last 10 days. Over the last month there are many many new girls in the stable. Now if only some wing men would get here to test them all out....[/QUOTE]

Now that would be an accomplishment... To barfine all 5 new girls without getting entangled in the psycho-drama that would result from it. You'd need a silver tongue, a teflon jacket and lots of vitamin "C".

[QUOTE=Fox Two]Now that would be an accomplishment... To barfine all 5 new girls without getting entangled in the psycho-drama that would result from it. You'd need a silver tongue, a teflon jacket and lots of vitamin "C".[/QUOTE]

i got enough trouble with one... can't imagine try five... but butterfly's will be butterfly's... It's only work... I went from wedding magazines to knives in a hurry.

I aim to be at Livingstone's from late on Jul 26 for at least 3 nights, and probably more.
If anyone wants to catch up, send me a PM and I'll drop you my phone-number.
Or just ask Giotto which one is me.

Hope to be meeting Nic and Canyon as a minimum. Not sure if Tansak will be still be around.

Can't wait to see all the new beauties that Tansak is raving about. Surely they cannot be better than his GF??? :p

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Hope to be meeting Nic and Canyon as a minimum. Not sure if Tansak will be still be around.[/QUOTE]

I am out tomorrow Mick... Sorry mate you will have to hold down the fort for a while.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I aim to be at Livingstone's from late on Jul 26 for at least 3 nights, and probably more.
Hope to be meeting Nic and Canyon as a minimum. Not sure if Tansak will be still be around.[/QUOTE]

I am off to chiang Mai on the 28th so I could make the 26th or 27th :)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I am out tomorrow Mick... Sorry mate you will have to hold down the fort for a while.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if we will ever meet LOL, I hope one day we will ;)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I wonder if we will ever meet LOL, I hope one day we will ;)[/QUOTE]

Tonight ;) ??? Maybe be back end of Aug early Sept.

Hi Giotto, i recently stopped over for a night and i must say i thoroughly enjoyed my stay and recommend your lodge to anyone who is thinking of going.

Keep up the good work.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I am off to chiang Mai on the 28th so I could make the 26th or 27th :)[/QUOTE]
Great. Lets say maybe 26th. I'll ring you to see if it really suits on the day.

Hey I have to catch up with a girl in Chiang Mai. Not decided if she is coming to me or visa versa just yet.

Hopefully an Aussie: Cadel Evans is going to win Le Tour de France! :)

[QUOTE=Plugger]Hi Giotto, i recently stopped over for a night and i must say i thoroughly enjoyed my stay and recommend your lodge to anyone who is thinking of going.

Keep up the good work.[/QUOTE]Plugger,

Thanks, will do my very best.

Did we meet?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Great. Lets say maybe 26th. I'll ring you to see if it really suits on the day.
...[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

The 26th...

can be recommended to everybody - it is STAFF PARTY DAY!!!

The fun starts already early in the morning (9 monks, the staff decided that we did not have the monks in here for a long time, so the proposed some monking start-up). I am in general open to everything, and due to the fact that it is very early in the morning I will physically be there, sleeping with open eyes.

The catastrophe then will start at night, when the customers are going to leave the bar - then then staff will take over. It will end at about - nobody knows, somewhen early next morning, and the staff will be dead - as usual.

Guests in the morning will be send to the 7/11 for breakfast (ok, may be not). Drunken bodies will be around everywhere. The bar will not be cleaned up till late night next day. Half of the staff will not show up for work - because they are sick. Alcohol sick.

But - besides all criticism of an employer - it is definitely fun. So - twice a year we are going for this event, that should be enough, and it should be ok, for the staff and for our guests.

Everybody who is here in Bangkok should come over and join the party. All the previous staff parties were really good.


Giotto

Giotto -

Is the ISG member promotion still active? I'm planning to be in Bangkok in 2-3 weeks.

[QUOTE=Farmboy5]Giotto -

Is the ISG member promotion still active? I'm planning to be in Bangkok in 2-3 weeks.[/QUOTE]Farmboy5,

Yes, the promotion is still available for ISG members.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Great. Lets say maybe 26th. I'll ring you to see if it really suits on the day.[/quote]

Cool, maybe we can even go to a soapy together during the day on the 26th.
I'd gladly help you asses one of the new places.

[quote]Hey I have to catch up with a girl in Chiang Mai. Not decided if she is coming to me or visa versa just yet. [/quote]

I am going on the 28th and back on the 31st. My gig will be there waiting for me LOL, she took the whole period off so that we could screw the whole time. I am not sure I will be able to visit Chiangmai at all.

[quote]Hopefully an Aussie: Cadel Evans is going to win Le Tour de France! :)[/QUOTE]

That would be great! (except I'm not sure what the rules of the tour de france are) LOL

[QUOTE=Giotto]
Everybody who is here in Bangkok should come over and join the party. All the previous staff parties were really good.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

G,
Count me in ;)
I have been so busy lately with so many girls to look after LOL
I have a few stories for you about Camfrog and the potential it has.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Cool, maybe we can even go to a soapy together during the day on the 26th.
I'd gladly help you asses one of the new places.

I am going on the 28th and back on the 31st. My gig will be there waiting for me LOL, she took the whole period off so that we could screw the whole time. I am not sure I will be able to visit Chiangmai at all.

That would be great! (except I'm not sure what the rules of the tour de france are) LOL[/QUOTE]
Well there is a fantastic Temple (most beautiful in Thailand) near Chiang Rai called Wat Rong Khun that is a must for tourists but I'm sure you will never get to see it. It would cost nearly a whole day out of your sex schedule.
I show you some pics instead.

O.K. Sat afternoon Soapy sounds good.
I'll list a few possibile venues later.

I have Phen (D cups) lined up for Friday night I think, but she has to run her business early Sat morning.
If I'm real horny Sat morning I can go to SOL. I missed it last trip.

Sat night I can check out the new talent in the Sports bar.
Then I can choose between a girl or getting drunk (but I can't manage both very well).

Sunday I can cover some of my Oilies "to do" list, e.g.
Cher at Aviva, or Fa at Tulip, or someone pretty at Euro or Angel26 (if such can be found).
Meet with Canyon for dinner somtime.

I'll put the Chiangmai girl off until at least Monday I think.
There are still several other girls I am looking forward to repeating with, such as hot little J from Suzi Wong, Utopia girl, etc.

Its going to be hectic!

Nic,
I am not sure that Soapies is really your thing, because you have to pay all inclusive up front and she might turn out to be not exactly pornstar material! She probably won't know how to massage either, may give mediocre HJs (who cares?) and average BJs, etc. Are you sure you want such a gamble?

Its just that I am relatively new to Oiles because I never really wanted a proper massage. Fortunately many Oilies know how to concentrate on fucking mischief.

BTW, The Tour de France is a bicycle endurance race over several days (for anyone who doesn't know). Lance Armstrong was most famous multiple winner in recent years. This year, currently Cadel Evans (Aussie) is the leader (yellow jersey).

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]O.K. Sat afternoon Soapy sounds good.
I'll list a few possibile venues later.[/quote]

Goodie, it's a date then ;)

[quote]I am not sure that Soapies is really your thing, because you have to pay all inclusive up front and she might turn out to be not exactly pornstar material! She probably won't know how to massage either, may give mediocre HJs (who cares?) and average BJs, etc. Are you sure you want such a gamble?[/quote]

No worries there. I know I go to Oilies 90% of the time but I almost never have a massage there, I like to go straight to the FS part. I like to take my time (lots of foreplay) and almost always manage to finish when the hour is up (sometimes I need to buy an extra half hour).

The problem I have right now is that I am doing too many non P4P so I lack power LOL. We'll see how I hold up Saturday :) as I also have a date on Friday night.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
The problem I have right now is that I am doing too many non P4P so I lack power LOL. We'll see how I hold up Saturday :) as I also have a date on Friday night.[/QUOTE]
Suggested Soapies Research for Sat 26th.

Option 1: Chai Lai (Colonze 4) because I have never been in there. Backup nearby places (Rama 9) are Colonze 1, Victoria Secret, Long Beach, and Noar. Long Beach is the only one I have booked a girl so far. Catherine has a lot of girls but difficult to find a cutie.

Option 2 (Huai Khwang):
Selene/TharnThong where they have both Soapy and Oily options (English???). Backup places: Colonze 2 (yet to try), Nataree, Hi Class (Yet to try), Emmanuelle

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Suggested Soapies Research for Sat 26th.

Option 1: Chai Lai (Colonze 4) because I have never been in there. Backup nearby places (Rama 9) are Colonze 1, Victoria Secret, Long Beach, and Noar. Long Beach is the only one I have booked a girl so far. Catherine has a lot of girls but difficult to find a cutie.

Option 2 (Huai Khwang):
Selene/TharnThong where they have both Soapy and Oily options (English???). Backup places: Colonze 2 (yet to try), Nataree, Hi Class (Yet to try), Emmanuelle[/QUOTE]

I would prefer the Option 2, if you are ok with that. Any of the places would be fine with me, I have not been there yet.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I would prefer the Option 2, if you are ok with that. Any of the places would be fine with me, I have not been there yet.[/QUOTE]
Great. You can decide which Soapy MP you would like to look first.
Fortunately there are others as backups in case nothing appeals at the first.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

The 26th...

can be recommended to everybody - it is STAFF PARTY DAY!!!
....
The catastrophe then will start at night, when the customers are going to leave the bar - then then staff will take over. It will end at about - nobody knows, somewhen early next morning, and the staff will be dead - as usual.
...
Everybody who is here in Bangkok should come over and join the party. All the previous staff parties were really good.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

I am not sure that I will have the stamina to party all night (jet lag), but for sure I'll show up.

Looking forward to see the new talent in the Sports Bar that Tansak couldn't try out.

Might be meeting fellow soapy fan Canyon for the first time too.

I have just completed a three day stay at Livingstones, this time I visited with my son who is in his mid-20s. Of course we are in Thailand for a general holiday but I want to show him a small taste of the delights. At the same time I am a little wary because he could be vulnerable on the emotional side.

So first night we hooked up with two girls, one of whom knows me from previous trips, and played a lot of pool. We had a great time and no complications when we left becuase as it happened we had to share a room that time due to shortage of rooms. But plenty of suggestions were made by the girls for the next night.
The next night I decided to let things cool a bit and took him to see Nana area and the show at Angel Witch.

On the last night I encouraged him to stay in his room and watch movies and, free to roam at last I entered the bar. My first task was to shake off the girl from the first night as I fancied new pastures. She was good about it and was kind enough to stick around for drinks all evening! - albeit throwing me angry looks occasionally. I hooked up with another but as the evening wore on she became quite inebriated and wound up getting very emotional, tears and all. She told me nothing in words but I could sense her torment (which seemed to be about nothing in particular, just her life state) and it made me feel really sad for her, we hugged plenty. We decided it was best if she go home alone. By which time it is nearly closing time and no other gilrs available, except for the one from last time. I considered the matter and decided to sleep alone.

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Dear fellowz,

From today until Wednesday 23, you are welcome to join to the "genuine pool party" (when you can enjoy the pool instead of just looking at it).

Time: 4:00 pm - at the time, part of the pool is already covered by the roof shade, so you won't get sunburned. Also, you should have had your breakfast at that time. We need to get out at 6:00 pm before Guido starts to chase us out, fearing for the decency of his restaurant guests.

Dress code: water is nice and warm, but still please wear decent swimming suit.
Activity: floating in the water, necks supported by a buyo recently purchased by the Livingstones, and drink a cold beer (the bottle cooler also keeps its afloat, so you won't get tired).

Conference subject: pool, beer, girls and sex - why can't we have it every day of our life?

Discounts: following his usual generosity, Management agreed to give a 5% discount starting from the 5th beer. (I am sarcastic too there, especially as I am shamelessly enjoying my ISG room upgrade...).

See you there - well, I guess I'll be floating alone again.

SWS

Arriving LL late tonight (nearly midnight)

All,

Is it all right if I join in?

Been here 2 weeks but buried in meetings at work, and never made it to LL as I ended up being booked into a serviced apt by the company.

Wouldn't mind tagging along with the proposed Soapies adventure (I think I'm up to it) , and hanging around a bit at the staff party, if I last that long, and if it does not rain, or if I don't pass out in the Bangkok heat. Else I just get a beer and try to introduce myself to the boss.

In any case, what time would be best to get down there? or how to meet up?

Also, I'd like to bring my camera if that's ok, will be discreet, it's for the Soapy girl only if possible, and will check LL's house photo rules. It's a DSLR so while it's not big, it's not pocket-sized either.

fly

[QUOTE=Flyhere]All,

Is it all right if I join in?[/quote]

I don't see why not... I sent you a PM with more details

[quote]Also, I'd like to bring my camera if that's ok, will be discreet, it's for the Soapy girl only if possible, and will check LL's house photo rules. It's a DSLR so while it's not big, it's not pocket-sized either.

fly[/QUOTE]

I will bring a camera too, just for the girls though

Nic,

I tried to txt and call, but was not successful, invalid number. I PM'ed you my number, would appreciate a call.

fly

Just met Neufie for Breakfast.
Last night took 2 Suzie Wong girls to get horniness out of my system. Well a little of it anyway.
Looks like there will be quite a few forum members around tonight for the party.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I don't see why not... I sent you a PM with more details
I will bring a camera too, just for the girls though[/QUOTE]
Soapy girls with often permit a photo clothed. But not always.
Very few will be happy to be nude with their face also included in the pic.
Best to have the camera in a bag that hides it from view.
Thais do not not take cameras to Soap MPs.

Right now the monks are chanting away in the Pali language at the Hotel special ceremony, having completed their last meal of the day before noon.
Phuuthang arahang kachaamee, etc.

Giotto is dutifully attending the ceremony even if he is half asleep.

Canyon shouted me to dinner at the Lodge with Flyhere and wanted to ask me about Soapy experience history. But he seems quite experienced himself in my opinion. I ordered Gai Hor Bai Toey (Marinated Chicken in Panadanas leaf - always a good one) and Gung Op Wun Sen (Baked big prawns in glass noodles pot). FlyHere had the special German Bratwurst, and canyon had Black Pepper fish stir-fry for his main course. Execellent meal and proceeded to the Sports bar.

After plenty of drinks with Nic Frenchy, Canyon, FlyHere, Neufie, Tansak's girl L, and mamasan Tina, I started to join in the Issaan dancing but looking quite a goose for sure.

Risque costumed table top dancing by the all-flesh Emmy and two other staff.

One girl was checking out Nic's hairy chest and wanted to see my hairless chest for a marked contrast.

Girls were getting drunk now, and Auntie made an announcement to start the party officially, as if it wasn't going already. Giotto made a few teasing announcements on the Microphone.

By 2AM I was starting to flag due to a very long day the previous day and little sleep the night before. I would never make it till the end. Besides, a girl was dancing and gyrating her crotch area at me in no uncertain manner. She was really trying to attack and wanted me to attack back.
But she was a bit on the short side fro my taste and I am not used to being the quarry instead of the persuer.

Anyway being drunk and very tired doesn't do anything good for my sexual ability so I eventually made my escape, postponing my sexcapades till tomorrow (now today). I needed to prepare my stamina for the very pretty and energetic Miss Jar coming for me early today after class. She has study exams in a few weeks and is opening a restaurant in Ratchada Soi 3 in a few days so its probably very lucky I can get her now for a nice LT stint possibly till the next morning.

All the other forum members had left earlier except for Neufie who was partying till time to go to the airport I think.

Had a great time at the Livingstone's Bar in the company of Mick Licker, NicFrenchy, Canyon. Neufie also came by. Met mamasan Tina and a few of the girls. Didn't count how many rounds of drinks we had, but I exceeded my quota for next 2 months I'm sure. I finally bid good night to everyone and hailed a taxi around 1:30 this morning.

For a first visit to the Lodge, I felt quite at home. It was cool to meet Giotto and talked to him several times later after dinner and over some drinks in the Bar. Guido and the restaurant staff were very helpful and attentive, always willing to accomodate or ready with suggestions.

A funny note. Guido had suggested some sweet peas and bacon, so "peas and bacon instead of creamy cauliflower please" to the waitress, I heard her repeating "peas and bacon", "yes, peas and bacon". When it came out, I got two strips of bacon and no peas. She thought I wanted "piece of bacon". Must work on my accent, or learn some Thai.

The Sports Bar girls and mamasan Tina were no pressure, low-key but very friendly, just a nice friendly place for a few drinks on a Saturday night. The staff party just added more laughs at the sights of the "beauties" in their skimpy costumes. It's definitely going to be my regular spot in Bangkok.

Earlier in the day I had made my way by BTS to Phrom Phong station, and looked around for Soi 33.

Made a mental note to self, will try to remember to ask for the BTS exit number always. Walking down from the skytrain station to the wrong side of the road means having to walk up again to go down the other side. You don't really want to try to cross the road below, with hundreds of cars, buses, and motorcycles zipping pass below.

Walked pass Soi 33/1 and turn into Soi 33 at a sign for the Novotel which I knew was at the corner. Almost walked pass Livingstone as the entrance was set back a few feet from the street.

[QUOTE=Flyhere]...She thought I wanted "piece of bacon". Must work on my accent, or learn some Thai....
[/QUOTE]
An Italian’s Tale
I’ma come here to a hotel. I go down to eat soma breakfast. I tell the waiter I wanna two piece toast. He bringa me only one piece. I tella him I wanna two piec--he say, “Go to the toilet.” I say, “You no unnerstan’. I wanna two piece on my plate.” He say, “You better don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on the plate you son of a b itch.” I don’t even know the man and he call me son of a b itch!!

Later, I go to eat some dinner at another restaurant. The waitress bring a spoon, and a knife, but no fork. I say, “I wanna fork.” She tell me everbody wanna fuck. I say, “You no unnerstand’. I wanna fork on the table.” She say, “You better not fuck on the table you son of a b itch.” I don’t even know the woman an’ she calla me son of a b itch!

So I go back to my hotel, an’ there’s no sheet on my bed. I calla the manager an’ tell him I wanna sheet on the bed. He say, “You better not shit on the bed you son of a b itch.” I don’t even know the man an’ he call me son of a b itch!

So I go to check out and the man at the desk, he say, “Peace to you.” I say, “[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on you too you son of a b itch!!” I go back to Italy!

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]An Italian’s Tale

I’ma come here to a hotel... ...I go back to Italy![/QUOTE]The old ones are always the best.

Same with jokes.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]An Italian’s Tale
...So I go to check out and the man at the desk, he say, “Peace to you.” I say, “[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on you too you son of a b itch!!” I go back to Italy![/QUOTE]


LOL, funny story.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
Giotto is dutifully attending the ceremony even if he is half asleep.[/QUOTE]Mick Licker and all visitors,

It was a pleasure for me to meet you [again], thanks for being with us here last Saturday.

And correct - I was nearly sleeping during the monks procedure, but I made it somehow to the end. Then i had my usual 20 cups of coffee, and woke up.

The night was very very long. Staff dancing was ongoing until 4:30 am in the morning, then everybody was completely drunk. Pool was played - but due to the fact that all players saw all balls twice the fun was limited there either.

Later we went out then for some food (Rama 9 area) - and I had my last beer at 8 am when the early guests had their morning coffee.

It was fun, a good night - and all the staff showed up next day for work - some of them really did not feel well, but they were fighting against the odds.


Giotto

Now why would Giotto want to go to Pattaya...??? :confused:

Just when I wanted to make a complaint :(
The Hotel room TV has a good selection of channels for Farangs (English & Deutsch) but not really for Thais or Japanese.

The girl staying with me is actually not Thai and not Japanese but she understands these 2 languages. But there are no TV stations in these languages any more and she can't read Thai subtitles fast enough HBO's or other movie channels.

I wonder if Giotto is worried that a Thai girl might pay more attention to the Thai TV channel than to the spunky exciting Farang she is with? LOL ;)

Fortunately I can play DVDs with Thai speaking on my computer.

When I arrived at the lodge the pool water was a slightly strange colour.

After weeks of effort to clean the pool tiles months ago, Giotto would have just about had a heart attack when seeing the colour was not pristine sparkling blue but rather greenish. I would have liked to be there to see his face :D

The pool man had applied some sort of Iodine treatment to protect against algae and germs etc. Fortunately it was not a deposit on the tiles and only affected the water colour for a day or two. Its coming back to normal now.

So Giotto can be relieved. :D

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Now why would Giotto want to go to Pattaya...??? :confused:
...[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

Pattaya? No, I am here, sitting downstairs at the pool...

TV - that's a permanent issue here. We are still looking for a new satellite company to reorganize our complete TV system. Everybody promises a lot, but up to now nobody could really convince me that his company would be able to fix the problem.

TIT - we are in waiting mode. The solution will suddenly pop up - one day :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]After plenty of drinks with Nic Frenchy, Canyon, FlyHere, Neufie.. [/quote]

Was indeed great to meet adn have drinks together :) we should do this more often.

[quote]One girl was checking out Nic's hairy chest and wanted to see my hairless chest for a marked contrast.[/quote]
Do you remember her name? I am so bad with names LOL...

I am sorry I had to run off so quickly and desert the party. The story is quite funny actually and deserves its own report. In a nutshell, my gig (a girl I met, saw 3 times but never slept with) called me to tell me she was at a party on Thonglor (where I met her initially) and that her friend (lady) was drunk and getting sick, she remembered I lived not too far and asked me if I could give them both a shelter for the night as her friend could not go home in such a poor state, fearing her family's reaction.
I give her my address and tell her I will wait for her at the entrance of my building. Long story short, they both slept at my place and needless to say that my Gig spent the whole sunday rewarding me for my good heart.
(Review to come soon)

Mick,
I once was tempted to have my chest hair removed but, I am amazed at how non P4P girls like to play with them while they lie in bed with me. I always thought that hair were a turn off, I was wrong.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
Mick,
I once was tempted to have my chest hair removed but, I am amazed at how non P4P girls like to play with them while they lie in bed with me. I always thought that hair were a turn off, I was wrong.[/QUOTE]
The problem with me just having a few, is that girls then want to pull them out.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

Pattaya? No, I am here, sitting downstairs at the pool...
[/QUOTE]
I got mixed up with which week Giotto was going to Pattaya.
Had a nice swim in the pool today. The water tempurature is just perfect. Not cold and not quite warm.

3 Sports bar girls were sitting by the pool with guests. One little one was in her swimsuit which exposed superb bottom cheeks. She is not shy about her body and really got me going. She is really a tiny but racy athletic looking hot number. Possibly under 40 Kgs. Am severely tempted to test her on the bed one night.
I am sure she will be as hot as she looks.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]
All the other forum members had left earlier except for Neufie who was partying till time to go to the airport I think.[/QUOTE]

Ha Ha, myself and sore head made it to the airport on time, but only just.

Had a great time, and it was good to meet everyone. Though I wish I hadn't left as Dubai is not quite the same experience, I look forward to the next trip in 3 months or so.

More reports later as I am up to my neck in it.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Was indeed great to meet adn have drinks together :) we should do this more often.


Do you remember her name? I am so bad with names LOL...
[/QUOTE]

Nic, I think this was Apple?!?

[QUOTE=Neufie]Nic, I think this was Apple?!?[/QUOTE]

Neufie, you must be right! Thanks a lot for the help :)

(I am so bad with names) LOL

[QUOTE=Neufie]Nic, I think this was Apple?!?[/QUOTE]

Neufie and Nic,

Yes, Neufie has great memory, her name was Apple. She was trying to get Nic to take her for the night.

fly

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]The problem with me just having a few, is that girls then want to pull them out.[/QUOTE]Lol.

Indo Phile is having just two chest hairs remaining.

They are tied together in case one falls one.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...
(I am so bad with names) LOL[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,

Getting old :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Flyhere]Neufie and Nic,

Yes, Neufie has great memory, her name was Apple. She was trying to get Nic to take her for the night.

fly[/QUOTE]
Well despite all this name advertising there are actually several other superior girls in the Sports bar. Apple (App for short) didn't convince Nic (nor me before Nic got there).
I had eyes for some others, most of whom were already taken , e.g. Miss K, Miss T, Miss Y, Miss L, Miss J. You sometimes have to be quick to get the very popular girls.

[QUOTE=Giotto]NicFrenchy,

Getting old :) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Yeah, unfortunately I get older every year LOL

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Yeah, unfortunately I get older every year LOL[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,

Wow, good for you, every year only ...


Giotto

For 2 days at the lodge, Sury is staying with me. I have known her for about 6 years. She gave up P4P a long time ago.

She comes from the far northern mountains of Burma close to the China border. The Thaiyai people have no country as they are not Burmese and persecuted by the Burmese military/police etc. Many are refugees in Thailand but with no Thai citizen card.

Sury got a passport in Burma after waiting many months and then went to Japan for 4 years with a friend who was marrying a Japanese man. She had to work in a 7eleven and life was not fun.
She decided that Japanese men were too sefish and didn't take to them.

She is a very nice character in my experience. When she speaks Thaiyai with her relatives on the phone I can partly understand as their language is close to Laos or Issaan languages, but strange accent. Baan (house) becomes Waan in Thaiyai.

Despite having Sury to stay for 2 days, I still managed to sneak out and play up a little.

When I went for a swim, Sury was too shy to swim too. Cannot swim and scared of the water. So she just watched.
Miss K from the sports bar was in a very revealing bikini showing beautiful bottom. I suddenly started to get interested.

Now Sury has returned to Chiangmai to open her own little business selling stuff that people normally get in 7eleven but in a district where have no 7eleven.

Yesterday Giotto and I were chatting about fuel prices and transport. This turned to shipping on the rivers of Europe, and finally turned to classical music inspired by the great rivers,
"The Moldau" by Smetana for example. One of my favourites.

The sports bar music is great for my age-group, with nice mix of rock, reggae, hip-hop, Thai, etc. but will make a nice change when the classics are played on certain days.

I have eaten here several nights and trying to keep weight under control by ordering fish and BBQed prawns (which are huge). Cutting down meals now and getting in quite a bit of walking and sex-ercise to help lose weight.

The weather has been so mild, I should progress to a few runs in Sirikit park.

If Giotto is going to play Smetana's "The Moldau" or Strauss' "Blue Danube", can I put in a request for some opera music? Munching on the king prawns while listening to Pucini would be good. Else some Latin jazz or Buena Vista Social Club or some Samba would be good too.

The best thing about LL is the incredibly friendly general staff. And its when you get to know them that you realise just how hard they can try to please.
The breakfast waitress is exceptional as a start. Miss T serving me tonight is so lovely, pretty (long hair to the waist) and thoughtful that if we were both available, I would seriously consider going after her. :)
She would probably make an exceptional wife.
But I could list so many more that really impress. Makes Giotto look like the grumpiest one here! :D

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Miss T serving me tonight is so lovely, pretty (long hair to the waist) and thoughtful that if we were both available, I would seriously consider going after her. :)
She would probably make an exceptional wife.[/QUOTE]

Shoot you and me both.... I'd take her in a heartbeat and the TGF knows it too ;) She really helped me out last trip also, very nice lady.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]The best thing about LL is the incredibly friendly general staff. And its when you get to know them that you realise just how hard they can try to please.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely... the staff knows exactly how to prepare my meals (special requests) and they work so hard if one thing goes wrong they really do feel bad. I try to buy them drinks while I am there which rarely people think about doing for them as they are wait staff and not the ladies in the sports bar.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Makes Giotto look like the grumpiest one here! :D[/QUOTE]

Well we all know that to be true :)

[QUOTE=Flyhere]If Giotto is going to play Smetana's "The Moldau" or Strauss' "Blue Danube", can I put in a request for some opera music? Munching on the king prawns while listening to Pucini would be good. Else some Latin jazz or Buena Vista Social Club or some Samba would be good too.[/QUOTE]Flyhere,

No problem at all. We even can prepare a special playlist for you :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
Makes Giotto look like the grumpiest one here! :D[/QUOTE]OK, guys. Understood.

You all will come back one day. I am waiting :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]

Absolutely... the staff knows exactly how to prepare my meals (special requests) and they work so hard if one thing goes wrong they really do feel bad. I try to buy them drinks while I am there which rarely people think about doing for them as they are wait staff and not the ladies in the sports bar.
[/QUOTE]
Couldn't agree more. Things will go wrong from time to time with communication problems. All the different accents of English. Just like when Flyhere got a "piece of bacon" instead of "peas and bacon". But the staff really are disappointed when a mistake occurs and will willing fix if at all possible.
One time I got the wrong thing. I realised it was completely my fault as I had ordered wrongly in Thai, by a slip.
But Miss T*m stead-fastly refused to allow me to take the blame and pay for my mistake. She was happy to take responsibility when she was completely faultless.
She is obviously trained that the customer is always right (if not totally unreasonable) even when he is wrong.
Of course totally unreasonable customers do exist.

I am scared if she serves me too many times I might develop a crush on her! :) Her smile is a killer! Imagine if I am sitting with a girl and she sees I am so taken by the waitress. :eek:

Meanwhile certain Sports Bar girls are so popular that they are with customers virtually constantly. Miss T*k is a very well known good example. Probably need to book her time a month in advance LOL (maybe I exaggerate - maybe not). If you are rich young and athletic you might be able to jump the queue.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]If you are rich young and athletic you might be able to jump the queue.[/QUOTE]

Fuck! If only I was Athletic I would qualify for all 3 LOL.
Gotta hit the Gym more often.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I am scared if she serves me too many times I might develop a crush on her! :) Her smile is a killer! Imagine if I am sitting with a girl and she sees I am so taken by the waitress. :eek: [/QUOTE]

I'm not joking, I've told her and my TGF I'd take her in a heartbeat if she would have me, unfortunately I'm too old fat ugly poor and dumb for her ;) Now that I think about it, maybe that's why my TGF never wants me going to LL alone ;) . But you gotta admit, there are quite a staff members that go out of their way to assist you not just her.

Or I'll qualify this, I go to LL often because the staff has always take well care of me. But you can get that at a lot of places in LOS if you go there enough, from MP's (regular and special) to restaurants to shops... the people once you get to know them even and treat them right they are wonderful.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
Or I'll qualify this, I go to LL often because the staff has always take well care of me. But you can get that at a lot of places in LOS if you go there enough, from MP's (regular and special) to restaurants to shops... the people once you get to know them even and treat them right they are wonderful.[/QUOTE]
I reckon you can get it at LL the first time. Average to good places have may have extremely helpful staff but inconsistent (not all of them).

All this talk about classical music, fuel prices, and delightful large prawns on the menu ...

The last couple of times I was at LL it was hard rock, 1Ball in his undies in the pool with a few girls, a wild threesome I had with two hot girls (that I cannot discuss on ISG, to protect the innocent ;)), and other wild times.

It's been a while, but is this the same LL?

A place for all tastes! :)

[QUOTE=Piper1]The last couple of times I was at LL it was hard rock, 1Ball in his undies in the pool with a few girls, a wild threesome I had with two hot girls (that I cannot discuss on ISG, to protect the innocent ;)), and other wild times. [/QUOTE]
Actually Piper, I was swimming naked, and adjourned to the deep end, sat on the ledge of the pool, and received a delightful BBBJ by one of the sports lounge lovelies, while Giotto had a coronary :D . The pool lights were still on, if I remember correctly. hehehe.
Ahhhh, the good old days of LL. Will we ever repeat the debauchery, while listening to Puccini and discussing fuel prices? I fear not. :(

PS. It was 3 hot girls, not 2 hot girls, Piper. I can dig up and post links if you wish ;) I remember Island Girl past out in the jacuzzi of 114, now Giottos home. I hope he bought a new mattress..........

Just as you can like Illiad or Odyssey, and also watch Married With Children to drool over Al Bundy's teenage daughter. So debauchery and wild threesomes? I would love to have some. Roman orgies? oh yeah! those roman dudes sure knew how to enjoy themselves.

I must admit I never participated in any of these stuff, and won't get a chance to stay at the lodge. I am stuck in a serviced apartment some distance away, and barfining one of the lodge's lovelies seems too inconvenient.

So yesterday I happened to be on the BTS, decided to jump off at Prom Phong, and dropped into the lodge to say hello to Giotto and grabbed a quick Pad Thai Kung and a coke. May be Mick can point out Miss T*m to me next time. (And Mick: I grabbed a scoop of gelato from the corner shop on my way out too)

Mick did go through the roster of the sports bar, but I could only manage to remember 3 names or so, one of them was referred to as Tansak's (I have not met) girlfriend who was rather quiet.

Hello all!,

After reading thru about 20 pages of this thread, I am going to pull a FNG and ask a seemingly silly question. Where can I find the information about making a reservation of "The Lodge" and a few other details about spending a few days in what seems to be nothing but a good time for all!!
I have a few day available later in the week, before I have to make my way to China and it has been way too long since my last (and first) trip to Thailand.
Thanks in advance for you help.

Sky

[QUOTE=Piper1]All this talk about classical music, fuel prices, and delightful large prawns on the menu ...

The last couple of times I was at LL it was hard rock, 1Ball in his undies in the pool with a few girls, a wild threesome I had with two hot girls (that I cannot discuss on ISG, to protect the innocent ;)), and other wild times.

It's been a while, but is this the same LL?

A place for all tastes! :)[/QUOTE]
It is low season!
I did manage a 3some (SW) the first night , but too lazy to take pics this time, and I am rather reserved at the moment. Only got drunk once. I'm sure the place will liven up properly as soon as 1ball gets back.:)
I would like to meet his "craziness" some day.

A certain school-girl dancer (I think you might have met her, piper) was keen to keep my bed occupied as many nights as she could manage.

Had a nice little dinner with Miss M** and Miss L*k last night.

[QUOTE=Piper1]...
The last couple of times I was at LL it was hard rock, 1Ball in his undies in the pool with a few girls, a wild threesome I had with two hot girls (that I cannot discuss on ISG, to protect the innocent ;)), and other wild times.

It's been a while, but is this the same LL?
...
[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

Welcome back.

Yes, Livingstone's changed completely, we are targetting the upscale market. 5 o'clock tea time, dinner dress codes (cocktail dresses for ladies), and only classical dance at the bar (Vienna Waltz etc. ).

Ever since it is very quiet here :):):) ...


Giotto

PS: We also fixed pictures of the Pope above all beds in the rooms.

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
PS. It was 3 hot girls, not 2 hot girls, Piper. I can dig up and post links if you wish ;) I remember Island Girl past out in the jacuzzi of 114, now Giottos home. I hope he bought a new mattress..........[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

We completely renovated the room after that mess - it took us 6 weeks.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Hello all!,

After reading thru about 20 pages of this thread, I am going to pull a FNG and ask a seemingly silly question. Where can I find the information about making a reservation of "The Lodge" and a few other details about spending a few days in what seems to be nothing but a good time for all!!
I have a few day available later in the week, before I have to make my way to China and it has been way too long since my last (and first) trip to Thailand.
Thanks in advance for you help.

Sky[/QUOTE]Sky Ryder,

[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

There is a booking site, and you will hear from us within 24 hours.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Flyhere]Mick did go through the roster of the sports bar, but I could only manage to remember 3 names or so, one of them was referred to as Tansak's (I have not met) girlfriend who was rather quiet.[/QUOTE]

Now how in the heck did you get her to be quiet... normally I can't get her to shut up ;)

Be there in a few weeks but heading out of town. Will have a few nights so we can meet up someplace if you like, Nic swears we'll meet sometime also but I doubt that will ever happen ;)

[QUOTE=Giotto]Pipeman,

Welcome back.

Yes, Livingstone's changed completely, we are targetting the upscale market. 5 o'clock tea time, dinner dress codes (cocktail dresses for ladies), and only classical dance at the bar (Vienna Waltz etc. ).

Ever since it is very quiet here :):):) ...


Giotto

PS: We also fixed pictures of the Pope above all beds in the rooms.[/QUOTE]Sounds great - I may be there in November/December for a few days, so I'll bring my tux. ;) Would be great to catch up with you again. But I'm still tempted to have [i]lay[/i]overs in Singapore again. Love those Sri Lankan, Indian and Indonesian hotties.

[QUOTE=Piper1]... But I'm still tempted to have [i]lay[/i]overs in Singapore again. Love those Sri Lankan, Indian and Indonesian hotties.[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

Yep, that sounds good. Let me know when - then I will suddenly have an urgent business date in Singapore! Auntie Guido and Mrs. Giotto can run the show here, and we run a show in Singapore then :)!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Pipeman,

Yep, that sounds good. Let me know when - then I will suddenly have an urgent business date in Singapore! Auntie Guido and Mrs. Giotto can run the show here, and we run a show in Singapore then :)! Giotto[/QUOTE]It would be a pleasure. I'll keep in touch!

Does Guido miss me?? ;)

[QUOTE=Flyhere]Just as you can like Illiad or Odyssey, and also watch Married With Children to drool over Al Bundy's teenage daughter... [/QUOTE]Here's some trivia: Al Bundy did more than just drool over his 'teenage daughter' - he was actually bonking her (Christina Applegate) during filming of the series (well, not [i]during[/i] filming, but after hours). He's not as stoopid as he looks. ;)

My short trip comes to an end.

I have only tried 5 new girls for sex on the trip,
Oily girls at Euro, Aviva, Tulip, and
Soapy girls at Long Beach and Nataree.

None of these made a lasting impression that would cause me to repeat (unless favourites all unavailable) except maybe the Tulip girl.

All the remaining liasons were with girls I already know and these were the best overall performers.

Must be getting lazy to find new talent.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Now how in the heck did you get her to be quiet... normally I can't get her to shut up ;)

Be there in a few weeks but heading out of town. Will have a few nights so we can meet up someplace if you like, Nic swears we'll meet sometime also but I doubt that will ever happen ;)[/QUOTE]

Sure, always up for a few drinks and some mongering. Weekends are good.

Your girl was quiet probably because I don't speak Thai. I am going to take some lessons, things may change.

Arghhh...,

Today is the day again. This forum makes me sick [to a certain extend]. If I read this shit about prices as low as possible, and "acceptable STDs" etc. etc. ...

Just a few days ago we had this group of customers coming in, asking for Giotto - and demanding discount! "Yes, we know Giotto, and THB 1,800.00 for a room is much too expensive. We are experienced business travellers, and you don't even pay that much in Singapore!"

Bullshit! Hotel rooms in Singapore are approximately 3 times as expensive as here in Bangkok. Experienced business travellers - don't make me laugh!

Guys, if you expect Pattaya prices here in Bangkok - PLEASE [b]DO NOT COME TO LIVINGSTONE'S LODGE!!![/B] Stay somewhere else, but not here!

And [b]Opebos[/b] [and all other creatures being on the same egocentric trip] - if you don't want to use condoms or other protection... please be aware: The ISG obviously tolerates people like you, who endangers not only yourself but also your sexual partners and all following sexual partners of them. I have NO UNDERSTANDING why the ISG tolerates your shitty reports - but here at Livingstone's people like you are not wanted, not tolerated, not accepted - they are sent away to where you belong ... to a lousy THB 200,00-per-night-hotel where you can share you room with - cockroaches!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Piper1]It would be a pleasure. I'll keep in touch![/quote]Does Guido miss me?

Of course I do!

Good Morning!

I obviously had a bad day yesterday :)! The truth is: I really had a bad day yesterday.

(May be I go through all my questionable products from yesterday later and correct them a bit ...)


Giotto

Thank´s, you are absolutely right. Don´t let these people in, beware your standard.

Gerd

[QUOTE=Giotto]Arghhh,

Today is the day again. This forum makes me sick [to a certain extend]. If I read this shit about prices as low as possible, and "acceptable STDs" etc. etc. ...

Just a few days ago we had this group of customers coming in, asking for Giotto - and demanding discount! "Yes, we know Giotto, and THB 1,800.00 for a room is much too expensive. We are experienced business travellers, and you don't even pay that much in Singapore!"

Bullshit! Hotel rooms in Singapore are approximately 3 times as expensive as here in Bangkok. Experienced business travellers - don't make me laugh!

Guys, if you expect Pattaya prices here in Bangkok - PLEASE [b]DO NOT COME TO LIVINGSTONE'S LODGE!!![/B] Stay somewhere else, but not here!

And [b]Opebos[/b] [and all other creatures being on the same egocentric trip] - if you don't want to use condoms or other protection... please be aware: The ISG obviously tolerates people like you, who endangers not only yourself but also your sexual partners and all following sexual partners of them. I have NO UNDERSTANDING why the ISG tolerates your shitty reports - but here at Livingstone's people like you are not wanted, not tolerated, not accepted - they are sent away to where you belong ... to a lousy THB 200,00-per-night-hotel where you can share you room with - cockroaches!


Giotto[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Giotto]Arghhh...,
....
Bullshit! Hotel rooms in Singapore are approximately 3 times as expensive as here in Bangkok. Experienced business travellers - don't make me laugh!

Guys, if you expect Pattaya prices here in Bangkok - PLEASE [b]DO NOT COME TO LIVINGSTONE'S LODGE!!![/B] Stay somewhere else, but not here!
....
Giotto[/QUOTE]Agreed, I would hate to share my hotel with cockroaches))

I'll be at the Lodge tomorrow. I'll be floating in the pool with a beer from 4:30 pm on Friday, Sat and Sunday. Any member wanting to share impressions, just PM. I was just nailed down for my Nairobi report where I advised a price of EURO 40. By some better negotiating guy obviously. Everyone belongs to his own world.

Giotto,

Don't let the Bastards get you down.

SexWithSmile,

Welcome back, had no time to talk when I saw you checking in - we just had a computer problem.

WARNING
=======

The master of bed-overloading is back in town. Don't go to Tulips, there are no girls available in the next few days. They are all here in room no. xxx.


Giotto

I am way late posting this review of LL. I was there twice (7 nights) over a two week period during May/June. First of all, it was a pleasure to meet Giotto. He is very friendly and helpful, especially since it was my first trip to Thailand. I had a problem connecting to wireless internet and Giotto spent a good 30-40 minutes helping me resolve it. All the people who work at LL (restaurant, bar, front desk) are super helpful. It also a great place for a first timer I think, right smack in the middle of Soi 33 Artist clubs, 2 min walk to Akane massage (had wonderful sessions with Hiro), and less than 15 min walk to Soi Cowboy. The rooms are comfortable, reasonably priced and I really appreciate the free internet.

I never felt awkward bringing girls back from Cowboy. Almost every night. I think even in Thailand, I would feel self-conscious walking into a big hotel lobby with a girl half my age in my arms. At LL, that is not an issue b/c its smaller, more intimate, and nearly everyone else at LL is there for the same exact reason.

As for my first trip to LOS, I must say I prefer the go-go bars over the Soi 33 Artist bars and the Beergarden on Soi 7? I never got around to Nana or Patpong, mainly b/c I thoroughly enjoyed my time at the Cowbow go go clubs. I picked up multiple girls from Bacara and Tilac (sorry no pictures and unfortunately after 2 months, I have forgotten all of the girls' names). I did not really like the selection at the Beergarden (picked up one late afternoon and session was good but really did not find any girl who looked as good as the ones I picked up at the go-gos). Of course Beergarden girls are cheaper but I really did not mind spending the extra. As for the Artist bars on Soi 33, while many of the women are very attractive, I didn't really get into the gowns and dresses they wear. I definitely prefer the bikini or skirt w/ nothing underneath on display at the go-gos. I like women who are fully shaved or with a small landing strip. I can "check out the goods" before I choose at the gogos, but not at the Soi 33 bars. In general, I was paying about 1500-2000 thb for ST and 2000-3000 for LT at the gogos (does not include drinks are bf).

Looking forward to my next trip. Trying to schedule one for December.

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Coming back and back again. Always a pleasure. I spend 300 nights per year in hotels, but I am always back to the Lodge. Why?

Not because it is the full luxury or large marble lobby.

Not because of the blue eyes of Giotto. He is a good buddy of mine and we share most of the same philosophy (except for the 3somes. I find one girl too boring). But because of:

1) The pool. Large and clean, warm now, best place to have a floating beer. I am surprised nobody else uses it.

2) The room: convenient and clean, some might say a bit small. But the X-factor is:

3) The Double Person Jacuzzi! Perfect for aquatic blowjobs by 2 mermaids in bubbling water and romantic lights.

4) The bed is strong, firm, comfortable, and can support threesomes even with elephants.

5) And my girl-friends like the dinners around the pool, they find it very romantic. Added benefit is that you can smoke there, unlike in many Thai restaurants.

Now, to make your stay perfectly enjoyable, take a mosquito insecticide with you, and spray it in the room as you arrive. I personally hate even the smallest bug.

Happy mongering,

SWS

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[QUOTE=SexWithSmile].....
Not because of the blue eyes of Giotto. He is a good buddy of mine and we share most of the same philosophy (except for the 3somes. I find one girl too boring). ................
SWS

Hey, Giotto loves 3somes too. He is just afraid of getting his dick fed to the ducks.:D

Any of you famous people (Giotto?) going to be at LL around September 11th thru the 15th? Will be my first time there. I know I'll need direction.

Take care!

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]...
Not because of the blue eyes of Giotto. ...
[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

What? Not because of my blue eyes? Now I am disappointed ...

Bugs: We have a company spraying all the area, massively, twice a month. The rooms are also sprayed every day...

I think the bugs are getting resistent against all this poison ... it's somehow a never ending story. But of course we will never give up :) !


Giotto

There are this special days sometimes, in the [hotel] business...

We have moved the pool table from the pub the the restaurant entry area ... hopefully more customers will notice it and then want to play. It is really a great pool table, balanced, a full size table. Today I was playing there with Mrs. Giotto, on this table, around 11 pm at the night, when suddenly ...

... you never expect the unexpected. Some people were somehow main actors in parts of your life, in the past, long time ago. But somehow they are very important. May be not today any more, but they were at least important for a very specific period in the past.

Anyway, I was playing pool - and suddenly a very good customer from ours came in, and three women with him. I just took a short notice, a formal "hello" and I returned to playing pool - but Mrs. Giotto immediately turned to one of this 3 ladies - I took a closer look - and I tool another look...they were holding each other - how can that be, I knew this other woman - oh my god ... it struck me like a bullet in the head!

There is this one story I have never written about up to now. It changed my life, definitely, but Mrs. Giotto does not know much about it. She was not involved in all that, all that happened before I met her. And today - suddenly I find out - some important actors of two time periods of my life know each other ...

I think I should publish the story now. I have written it already, for years now. It is my personal "Private Dancer" story. Time to get it done. Time to digest it. But I am not sure...

Today's incident is a good introduction to this opera: Jeaulousy occured immediately. Mrs. Giotto felt, that there was something between that woman and me - and if there is something between a man and a woman it can only be - sex! So - she decided to arrange a big scene for me - why I had sex with one of her eldest friends...

Of course I did not engage - I never had sex with that woman, she only played an important part in a story with another woman [I had sex with], not more, not less - so I told Mrs. Giotto to stay calm, there was nothing she needed to worry about.

She did not believe that. And I don't like if my partner does not believe me. And so it is clear what followed - nasty nonsense! But of course I could not step back - I really had nothing with that woman.

Big shit now, massive trouble. But - may be - not that bad at all. Time to digest. Time to write the story.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Big shit now, massive trouble. But - may be - not that bad at all. Time to digest. Time to write the story.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to my world... hope it works out to how YOU want it to work out.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Welcome to my world... hope it works out to how YOU want it to work out.[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

LOL, let's wait and see. It will be interesting anyway.


Giotto

Uufff, it was not me, I only came with TWO women.

Can we have more precisions?

- "Changed my life": in what way? Sex would not change your life, except if that specific sex hooked you for the rest of your life.

- I tried to make sense, and could not figure out if at the end you had sex with her or not. Not having idea on how you explained this to Mrs G. , if it was in that way she would obviously directly assume that you boum boum that girl very hard and like it too much, and that's the worst situation she may believe.

I guess what you meant is that you had a moving experience with that girl which thoroughly changed your philosophy of life or your behavior, without sex taking place? But a wife will not believe it if you had not told her before. And she will not take our argument that "I did not tell you before because you would have been jealous".

Suggested exercise: look at yourself at the mirror, try to make a convincing denial, check all your body language until it becomes natural. Gentlemen, if you see Mr Giotto entering my room, it is ONLY for THAT purpose.

So now, we need to know more.

i am very sorry to report that one of the 2 girls i took to my room, whom i trusted with all my heart, shamelessly stole something from livingstones assets.

as her vibrator lost power while i am banging her friend during 20 minutes, and not satisfied of myself and her friend kissing each of her tits, she stood up, and taking advantage of me not looking at her, she stole 2 batteries of the room's remote control.

i only realized this misdeed this morning, and i beg for your indulgence, as it was committed in a lapse of instinctive necessity.

to avoid any further re-occurrence, i shall buy a brand new vibrator in singapore, 3 speed and double penetration rubbing and solar charger, and bring it back for my next stay in 2 weeks.

thank you,

sws

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]...
- I tried to make sense, and could not figure out if at the end you had sex with her or not. Not having idea on how you explained this to Mrs G. , if it was in that way she would obviously directly assume that you boum boum that girl very hard and like it too much, and that's the worst situation she may believe.
...
[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

LOL - due to the fact that I know how hard it is for you to live with this kind of mysteries: No, I had no sex with that woman.

I am not sure whether I still need to pratice "convincing denial" - I am living in Thailand for many years already, I learned that already :) .


Giotto

Called in to LL to have a look around and as i said to both Giotto and Guido i came away quite impressed. Not only with the facilities, but the willingness of all staff members to be helpful.

Giotto, as promised, will come back in later this week for a visit, but my next stay towards the end of this month will be at LL.

SWS, it was good to meet you also.

I will probably be at LL this weekend, if anyone I know wants to catch up.

[QUOTE=Giotto]
I think I should publish the story now. I have written it already, for years now. It is my personal "Private Dancer" story. Time to get it done. Time to digest it. But I am not sure...
[/QUOTE]
Well we are waiting for it :(

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]Called in to LL to have a look around and as i said to both Giotto and Guido i came away quite impressed. Not only with the facilities, but the willingness of all staff members to be helpful.

Giotto, as promised, will come back in later this week for a visit, but my next stay towards the end of this month will be at LL.

SWS, it was good to meet you also.[/QUOTE]

Congratulations - see you finally made it over to Giotto's.
When you book for next visit, ask for room 115, with double jac - favorite of many :)

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Well we are waiting for it :([/QUOTE]Yeah,

we all have to wait ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Its a long stop-over on way to work in UK and Deutschland.[/QUOTE]

Mick
Bring an umbrella!

On a brighter note, two weeks booked off work in October. Time to start planning a trip! :)

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Well we are waiting for it :([/QUOTE]I suggested to Giotto that he collate all his "Giotto's stories", have them professionally edited and published as a book.
I think it would be a winner (seriously).

How about some suggestions for the title of the book? Here's one: [b][i]"The Bestards of Bangkok."[/i][/b]

Any more suggestions?

P.S. I'm still waiting for 1Ball's much-awaited book [i]"My Life as a Farang Ladyboy Go-Go Dancing Queen."[/i]

[QUOTE=Piper1]
P.S. I'm still waiting for 1Ball's much-awaited book [i]"My Life as a Farang Ladyboy Go-Go Dancing Queen."[/i] :D[/QUOTE]
Thanks a million Piper. I was drinking a glass of wine as I read that. It is now all over my shirt.

Good one. :D

PS. That pic of me is a couple of years old. Unfortunately, I have put on a few kilos.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Mick
Bring an umbrella!

On a brighter note, two weeks booked off work in October. Time to start planning a trip! :)[/QUOTE]

God bless the Queen - another party at LL in Oct? ;)

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I will probably be at LL this weekend, if anyone I know wants to catch up.[/QUOTE]

Hi Mick,

This weekend is out as I have a visitor. I thought you said the weekend after that. I may be in if I am still around then, my project barely started but running into trouble already (fixed price),so I may be on the way out, will have to look for work then. Hey, Deutschland sounds good.

fly

[QUOTE=Flyhere]Hi Mick,

This weekend is out as I have a visitor. I thought you said the weekend after that. I may be in if I am still around then, my project barely started but running into trouble already (fixed price),so I may be on the way out, will have to look for work then. Hey, Deutschland sounds good.

fly[/QUOTE]
Yeh the weekend came sooner than I thought.
Mid september in Frankfurt area if anyone wants to FKK club.
Then another week back in LOS late Sep.
Then another week end of Oct probably.

T1234,
When will I catch your wicked self again, mate?

[QUOTE=Traveler1234] - another party at LL in Oct? ;)[/QUOTE]
Would be great to meet up with the esteemed members of the Board again.

My plans are flexible and if a Board Meeting is planned for October then I can adjust them to be able to join the Board members once business is concluded for beverages and a fine dining experience enjoying the ambience of Chez Giotto.

[QUOTE=Piper1]P.S. I'm still waiting for 1Ball's much-awaited book [i]"My Life as a Farang Ladyboy Go-Go Dancing Queen."[/i][/QUOTE]

Piper1, LOL, and i thought self advertising was banned from ISG, thanks for giving me the ability to clean both the beer and the dust from my keyboard.

If any guys are in LL between 24/8 and 6/9 then give me shout.

Well, thought I'd mention that I made my virgin foray into the lodge last night.

It was pretty late, but I was guided to the bar next to the pool area where I could still order a burger. "How would you like it done, sir? " Best one I've had in Bangkok so far. Very congenial atmosphere, in spite of my dour mood. One mamasan, who used to be a seamstress until recently, was very sweet but a little prone to begging. One little girl was absolutely enticing, the more so for her tense skittishness. One mamasan said that a room for the night would be 1800, another said 2200. One said the barfine is 1000, a little later the other one said 700. One said that LT would be 3000+, the other quoted 3000 for ST, but quickly agreed that 2000 was also reasonable. However ST was firmly pegged at one hour, and with that I retired. It's pricier than braving the sidewalks and neon boxes, but much more congenial.

On a night I feel like treating myself I may well be back.

Last night broke all records. Off the plane at 22:35 and arrived at the lodge at 23:35.

This morning I am watching and discussing the Olympics with Giotto at the outside bar. he is shocked that I am ordering a Gin and Tonic before lunch time. I have to explain to him that at night I can't drink much or will anaethetise my dick, so I have to take opportunity to drink after a good sex session instead.

Last night (and this morning) was kept busy by Phen who I have known for close to 15 years. She is nearly 40 years old but body still really good and natural D cups don't do any harm either. Today she has to hurry back home to look after her business at the market.

She is great and much better in bed than when I first met her. Experience matters! :)

Should do a Soapy this afternoon and probably catch my favourite Thonglor II girl later on.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]...
One mamasan said that a room for the night would be 1800, another said 2200.
...[/QUOTE]Rocksoff,

Good, that the burger was ok :) ... .

May be we should give the girls a training on room rates ... the Superior Room here is THB 1,800.00 ++ , Deluxe is THB 2,600.00++ ... a room rate of THB 2,200.00 does not exist. No idea where this information comes from, but on the other hand I am also not surprised that the girls are mixing this things up.

Anyway - next time when you are here ask for the boss and talk to me, then you will get straight and correct infos.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Rocksoff,

Good, that the burger was ok :) ... .

May be we should give the girls a training on room rates ... the Superior Room here is THB 1,800.00 ++ , Deluxe is THB 2,600.00++ ... a room rate of THB 2,200.00 does not exist. No idea where this information comes from, but on the other hand I am also not surprised that the girls are mixing this things up.

Anyway - next time when you are here ask for the boss and talk to me, then you will get straight and correct infos.


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Well most of us like to know the rate after taxes are added. 2200 is a bit too high for standard room with taxes added, but maybe that was the thinking.

Hey

[QUOTE=Giotto]Good, that the burger was ok . [/QUOTE]Just needed to relapse to Western food. Last night back to a rickety table on a junction near the Rama 6 expressway. Where the little waitress came to sit with me to practice her English. Turned out to be a family venture. Her mother is cooking, her sister washing dishes. Her boyfriend joined us, pouring toxic purple thai vodka for them. My leftovers were fed bit by bit to the sweet big dog until finally he got the plate to lick.

She was the only one there with any English. At some point she wanted to go to the toilet and boyfriend had to escort her into the dark.

[QUOTE=Giotto]May be we should give the girls a training on room rates. [/QUOTE]Ach, as long as it's in the ballpark.

[QUOTE=Giotto]the Superior Room here is THB 1, 800. 00 ++, Deluxe is THB 2, 600. 00++. [/QUOTE]They said "small" and "big":.]

[QUOTE=Giotto]Anyway. Next time when you are here ask for the boss and talk to me, then you will get straight and correct infos. [/QUOTE]I'd love to chat. But I don't mind the wavy infos too much, as long as it's possible to work something out In the end nothing is straight anyway.

Maybe Giotto should consider changing the Sports Bar to an Introduction Agency. Quite a few girls have been stolen away by the customers as permanent Girlfriends and quite a few of those customers were ISGers. Tansak's GF is gone now, so I won't be able to entertain her to make him jealous any more. But a couple of new pretty girls. One looks very hot.
Anyway with Tansak taken that leaves me with no competition to try to get the waitress Miss T*m. I now hear she is divorced/separated, so if it turns out I am finished with my GF, then I like Miss T*m. Unfortunately she knows too much and teases me about the numerous changes of dinner or breakfast partner.

Mick & Miss M beat Miss M & Mamasan convincingly in the Pool (6 games to 2), despite me being in very poor form at the start (very rarely play). From the way Mamasan plays pool (a basher), I reckon she likes to get it real powerful!

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I reckon she likes to get it real powerful![/QUOTE]

Are you still talking about pool ? LOL

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]... that leaves me with no competition to try to get the waitress Miss T*m. I now hear she is divorced/separated, so if it turns out I am finished with my GF, then I like Miss T*m. Unfortunately she knows too much and teases me about the numerous changes of dinner or breakfast partner.
...
[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

BESTARD.

I like Miss T*m, too, excellent service staff. And I will sharpen the knife now, which I will use to cut off your dick, slice it to pieces and give it to the ducks - in case that you proceed with your alternative GF plans :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]I will sharpen the knife now, which I will use to cut off your dick, slice it to pieces and give it to the ducks[/QUOTE]

I have a better Idea... instead of slicing it to pieces and feeding it to the ducks, just cut it off, have it framed then hang it at the entrance of the sports bar with the Following note:

"He lays Mick Licker's manhood" then add "The same punishment will be enforced to any customer trying to fornicate with our staff".

I think that ought to solve your problems.

Well, your girl problems at least because after you cutting his dick, I am not sure Mick will come back to the lodge as a paying customer so you'll have to make up for the Rooms, Food, Drinks and Barfine revenue elsewhere LOL

[QUOTE=Giotto]I like Miss T*m, too, excellent service staff. [/QUOTE]

HOY... don't count me out just yet... but if this is who i like and she is separated then who am i going to use for a taxi now???

Reports of my downfall is greatly exaggerated.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]

T1234,
When will I catch your wicked self again, mate?[/QUOTE]

I note you and Nic are living it up in LOS ;)

Unfortunately been busy with managing new golf course we just opened up back home, even to the point of having our overseas management teams fly here rather than me going out. And with the Olympics in Bj, trying to stay away from China until their hangover is over.

Hopefully the golf gods will be good and I can sneak out again in September!

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Tansak's GF is gone now, so I won't be able to entertain her to make him jealous any more. [/QUOTE]

Not to worry, she is only gone for a month or so to take care of something then she will be back. ;)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Not to worry, she is only gone for a month or so to take care of something then she will be back. ;)[/QUOTE]
Just in time for my visit, for me to flirt with her.

HAHAHAHAHAHA (Maniacal laugh) :cool:

[QUOTE=1Ball]Just in time for my visit, for me to flirt with her.

HAHAHAHAHAHA (Maniacal laugh) :cool:[/QUOTE]

You think? Remember she knows you so I am not worried :cool:

Hey Giotto,

Looks like I will be there around the 18th of September for about 7 days. I will be hiding out from work for a few days. Whats going on at the Lodge during that week. (Bathing Suits) That will take my mind away from you and your lovely wife kicking my Ass at the pool table. G will you be out of town on any business trips at that time? I would not want to come if you are not around. I am looking forward to doing some more bonding with you. I would also like to put a invitation out to any members that are around at that time. I feel like I owe you all a bunch of drinks and it is time for payback. I am stuck on a drilling rig in the middle of the ocean most of the time so I get alot of pleasure out of reading your reviews and points of view. I am not a cheapie and would love to buy any members that are around a few shots of Tequila or drinks of your choice. A special invitation to Tansak KTV, Passin Through, Traveller 22, NicFrenchy, Mick Licker, 1 Ball, Traveller 1234, Sonic Bam, and Sex With A Smile and of course Duniawala (my favorite and most knowledgeable) member. Looking forward to a short but pleasurable trip to my favorite place. I will still be there for 7 weeks in the new year so anybody that will not be around at that time I do hope we will meet some time during that visit. All the best boys. See ya soon.

[QUOTE=Kenya69]Hey Giotto,

...
G will you be out of town on any business trips at that time?
...
[/QUOTE]Kenya69,

No problem, I will be around. And for sure some other members, too.

Let us know if you can make it - looking forward to having you here with us again.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Kenya69]I am not a cheapie and would love to buy any members that are around a few shots of Tequila or drinks of your choice. A special invitation to Tansak KTV, Passin Through, Traveller 22, NicFrenchy, Mick Licker, 1 Ball, Traveller 1234, Sonic Bam, and Sex With A Smile and of course Duniawala (my favorite and most knowledgeable) member. [/QUOTE]

Sorry mate, just miss you, am leaving a few days before you. Was hoping to catch up with you but i'm sure you can handle all your girl friends by yourself. ;)

[QUOTE=Kenya69]A special invitation to Tansak KTV, Passin Through, Traveller 22, NicFrenchy, Mick Licker, 1 Ball, Traveller 1234, Sonic Bam, and Sex With A Smile and of course Duniawala (my favorite and most knowledgeable) member.[/QUOTE]

I shall be in Bkk at this time so we will meet up for sure. PM me when you get in BKK ;)

Sorry Kenya, will miss you by a couple of weeks. Will be there october 9.

Hey Mick!

Any chance you can let me know where I can find the lovely "j" that you posted here the other day.

I'll be arriving at the Lodge late on Sept 2nd for a couple of days before heading to Phuket.

Would love to meet up with this beauty.

Thanks in advance for any help you can supply :)

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100912[/url]

[QUOTE=Kenya69]......... A special invitation to Tansak KTV, Passin Through, Traveller 22, NicFrenchy, Mick Licker, 1 Ball, Traveller 1234, Sonic Bam, and Sex With A Smile and of course Duniawala (my favorite and most knowledgeable) member. ..............[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the invite, but regretfully will miss the date. I am in BKK 8th Sep for couple of days.

Dr. G, will drop by to see you and your lovely wife.

Current plan for visiting BKK is either side if 1Ball's dates. Looks like I will miss everybody as well. Bugger.

Kenya69 - I'm honoured you include me in such an esteemed list! I don't deserve it, still very much the newbie in comparison to these guys.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]...
Dr. G, will drop by to see you and your lovely wife.[/QUOTE]Sir,

Appreciated - but lovely wife, since when do I have a lovely wife? Can you introduce me to her :):):) ???


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]since when do I have a lovely wife? Can you introduce me to her :):):) ??? Giotto[/QUOTE]

I hear a knife being sharpened on 33 right about now...

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I hear a knife being sharpened on 33 right about now...[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

That's possible. Who cares...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

That's possible. Who cares...


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Well, there are hungry ducks in the blue swimming pool looking for some meat. :)

[QUOTE=Kenya69]Hey Giotto,

Looks like I will be there around the 18th of September for about 7 days. [/QUOTE]
I think I will overlap your last few days but not sure if at LL or going back to the GF yet.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Sir,

Appreciated - but lovely wife, since when do I have a lovely wife? Can you introduce me to her :):):) ???


Giotto[/QUOTE]
In Thailand your woman is known as a "wife" even if you are not officially married. :)
If someone should have too many women, then its the same as "too many wives".
Or was it the "lovely" part under question??? :confused:

[QUOTE=ChiefThinker]Hey Mick!

Any chance you can let me know where I can find the lovely "j" that you posted here the other day.

I'll be arriving at the Lodge late on Sept 2nd for a couple of days before heading to Phuket.

Would love to meet up with this beauty.

Thanks in advance for any help you can supply :)

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100912[/url][/QUOTE]
Lets just say that its easy to find out the answer to this question, if you know anything about me at all.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

BESTARD.

I like Miss T*m, too, excellent service staff.

Giotto[/QUOTE]
Yes but I like her TOO MUCH. :(

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
Or was it the "lovely" part under question??? :confused:[/QUOTE]Mick,

I will not say anything more ... without my lawyer being present :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Lets just say that its easy to find out the answer to this question, if you know anything about me at all.[/QUOTE]
The whole details have been well and truelly exposed in another ISG thread now.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick,

I will not say anything more ... without my lawyer being present :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Giotto,

For a wife, is it better to choose a "lovely" girl or a girl who has special talents on the bed? By "lovely" I don't mean just pretty, I mean sweet like waitress Miss T* (although she can tease).
Or is both possible? Obviously we couldn't stop or even reduce mongering unless we are receiving a lot of good quality sex. So a "lovely" girl is really not enough, is it?
Its hard to find a totally lovely girl who wants sex as much as I do. The sex bombs are usually not quite in the "lovely" category.

Mick

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
For a wife, is it better to choose a "lovely" girl or a girl who has special talents on the bed? By "lovely" I don't mean just pretty, I mean sweet like waitress Miss T* (although she can tease).
Or is both possible? Obviously we couldn't stop or even reduce mongering unless we are receiving a lot of good quality sex. So a "lovely" girl is really not enough, is it?
Its hard to find a totally lovely girl who wants sex as much as I do.
...
[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

What kind of wife is better ... don't ask me - how shall I know?

They all (most of them) are lovely - in the beginning. And they all (all) like sex - as far as I experienced that up to now in this country.

And I have no problem to find a woman here in Thailand who wants as much sex as I want. The problem is different - I am getting old and cannot perform as many times as they want :)!

I think you talk about a different Thailand :):):)!


Giotto

[quote=giotto]mick licker,

what kind of wife is better ... don't ask me - how shall i know?

they all (most of them) are lovely - in the beginning. and they all (all) like sex - as far as i experienced that up to now in this country.

and i have no problem to find a woman here in thailand who wants as much sex as i want. the problem is different - i am getting old and cannot perform as many times as they want :)!

i think you talk about a different thailand :):):)!

giotto[/quote]
you must jest! i can only remember one girl who was really voracious. a young bg newbie.

she enjoyed the sex so much that she woke me at 3 or 4am for another round and wanted to go again maybe 6am-7am. hey i was wanting to get some sleep!
but this is rare. unfortunately she wasn't stunning to go with the sex-appetite.
i would like to be raped while i have that automatic erection when just waking up, but most girls are still soundly slumbering and most won't allow sex until they wash up first even if they washed very thoroughly before sleep.

now just how dirty can they get during a few hours of sleep . plenty of them even wash up thoroughly after [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url].

Mr. Chairman:

I woke up this morning to see you were a bad boy last night and failed to take care of the lovely Mrs. G. Don't let this new TT get under your skin.

I'm sure he's lurking on this thread - he's just an envious asshole and jealous of the success of LL ;)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Mr. Chairman:

I woke up this morning to see you were a bad boy last night and failed to take care of the lovely Mrs. G. Don't let this new TT get under your skin.
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,

Don't worry - I love those nights down here at the swimming pool, having some fun in the forum ... :( and being beaten up early int he morning - by Mrs. Giotto :). That's real life!


Giotto

Will be in BKK for a very short trip Sep 8-10. If any ISGers are in town, PM me if you want to meet. Venue: LL Sports Lounge.

Having fond memories of being in Bangkok quite a few years ago, I have decided to try to relive those experiences, despite being quite a few years older, a few pounds heavier and rapidly receding hair.

I am sure the scene has changed a lot in the 10 or so years since I was there so have found the ISG boards to be immensly helpfull. Having read all the hotel reports it seems the place to be is LL so I have booked there for a week starting 26th September so hope to see some of you guys there.

BTW does the promotion for ISG memebers still run, anything that frees up baht for extra-curricular activities is welcome, its hard enough explaining this trip to the wife as it is!

[QUOTE=The Seer]Having fond memories of being in Bangkok quite a few years ago, I have decided to try to relive those experiences, despite being quite a few years older, a few pounds heavier and rapidly receding hair.

I am sure the scene has changed a lot in the 10 or so years since I was there so have found the ISG boards to be immensly helpfull. Having read all the hotel reports it seems the place to be is LL so I have booked there for a week starting 26th September so hope to see some of you guys there.

BTW does the promotion for ISG memebers still run, anything that frees up baht for extra-curricular activities is welcome, its hard enough explaining this trip to the wife as it is![/QUOTE]
What you want is a fake bill for a far more expensive Hotel, and use the extra money for playing up. :D
Thats why I avoid expensive Hotels. A waste of good mongering money!

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]What you want is a fake bill for a far more expensive Hotel, and use the extra money for playing up. :D
Thats why I avoid expensive Hotels. A waste of good mongering money![/QUOTE]

Not too funny, I actually had some fake 100 USD bills on my last trip over there (found them at money change, damn good fakes too). Was faced with a moral issue as to try to pass to girls or others in BKk... Ended up taking them home with me and verified they were fakes by my govt. and they sent off to the US officials, still have one as a memento.

Giotto... how about I buy you an expensive bottle of wine ;) ;)

Duni... will be in LOS during this time but might not be in BKK. If I am I am sure I will be at the sports lounge.

[QUOTE=The Seer]Having fond memories of being in Bangkok quite a few years ago, I have decided to try to relive those experiences, despite being quite a few years older, a few pounds heavier and rapidly receding hair.

I am sure the scene has changed a lot in the 10 or so years since I was there so have found the ISG boards to be immensly helpfull. Having read all the hotel reports it seems the place to be is LL so I have booked there for a week starting 26th September so hope to see some of you guys there.

BTW does the promotion for ISG memebers still run, anything that frees up baht for extra-curricular activities is welcome, its hard enough explaining this trip to the wife as it is![/QUOTE]The Seer,

Appreciate you visiting the Lodge.

ISG discount is still active - will explain the options to you when you arrive (make sure that you find me somehow).

See you then here at Livingstone's!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]... they were fakes by my govt. and they sent off to the US officials, still have one as a memento.

Giotto... how about I buy you an expensive bottle of wine ;) ;)
...
[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

Do I understand that correctly - the notes were faked by your government :) ???

Let's drink a good bottle of wine when you come back, it does not necessarily need to be expensive.

C U soon!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

Do I understand that correctly - the notes were faked by your government :) ???

Let's drink a good bottle of wine when you come back, it does not necessarily need to be expensive.

C U soon!

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Yeah right, I wish we printed the bills, I'd be a millionaire... The notes were USA notes passed in our banana republic... ;) You know we don't have the technology to even print a T shirt let alone a fake bill.

If I can get into town besides a layover, you taste the wine, I'll taste the tea, and Duni can taste the new talent...

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Yeah right, I wish we printed the bills, I'd be a millionaire... The notes were USA notes passed in our banana republic... ;) You know we don't have the technology to even print a T shirt let alone a fake bill.

If I can get into town besides a layover, you taste the wine, I'll taste the tea, and Duni can taste the new talent...[/QUOTE]
As every one knows, the best wine, the best tea don't even cum close to the tasting of a new talent. TQM Director has the best of all the positions in the Bestard Society. :)

[QUOTE=Duniawala]As every one knows, the best wine, the best tea don't even cum close to the tasting of a new talent. TQM Director has the best of all the positions in the Bestard Society. :)[/QUOTE]Sir,

Correct! This is why I plan to step down as chairman and take over your job :) !


Giotto

As a new guest of the lodge, albeit having visited a couple of times before making my first booking, i have to be honest and say that there are in reality few better places to stay in Bangkok where value for money is one of the main criteria.

Is it the cheapest in town, then the answer is no, although it is not that expensive, but the atmosphere and convivial hospitality as well as pleasant but personal surroundings is a welcome retreat after a hard days work.

Staying at LL means that if required there is no need to wander out of the hotel for anything, the food is good, and a very pleasant evening can be had in the Sports Lounge even without the pressure or need to remove one of the excellent choice of ladies to make the night pass by in even better style.

Giotto and his good lady as well as Guido provide some of the best personal service and attention that this traveller of many a year has experienced anywhere in the world. Whilst personality and ability to get on has something to do with this, they exude an attitude that is in al reality hard to find anywhere else.

The choice and breadth of food available would shame a good number of the more well known hotels around the world, with all of them being done to a high standard, having Guido as a qualified chef to help oversee does have it benefits.

The girls in the Sports Lounge can i expect be more than a handful to look after, but that also adds to the fun of staying here. There has also been a recent influx of new girls coming to work in the Sports Lounge which has added an element of not only youthfulness but also laughter, frivolity and good times when visiting the Sports Lounge.

This is one visitor that will be returning to Bangkok and to Livingstone's for several visits due to current work requirements, and will be taking further visits to one of the new ladies recently joining the Sports Lounge.

I can heartily recommend this establishment to any visitor to Bangkok. It is conveniently located for most things, at worst being a short taxi ride away, whilst also having a certain element of quietness if required.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Not too funny, I actually had some fake 100 USD bills on my last trip over there (found them at money change, damn good fakes too). [/QUOTE]
I meant a fake Hotel Invoice (statement). Not fake bank notes.

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]Giotto and his good lady as well as Guido provide some of the best personal service and attention that this traveller of many a year has experienced anywhere in the world.[/QUOTE]

What the ....????!!!!! Triple tag team service from the management? New menu item in the dungeon just in time for Duni's visit? :p

Giotto, NO! Auntie, NO! Mrs G? Hmmm, why not? ;)

What do the ladies have to say about this? Is this a management ploy to increase management earnings and reduce ladies' income? I hope there is not industrial unrest brewing.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]...
Giotto, NO! Auntie, NO! Mrs G? Hmmm, why not? ;)
...
[/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,

Hmm, how shall I understand this now :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]What the ....????!!!!! Triple tag team service from the management? New menu item in the dungeon just in time for Duni's visit? :p

Giotto, NO! Auntie, NO! Mrs G? Hmmm, why not? ;)

What do the ladies have to say about this? Is this a management ploy to increase management earnings and reduce ladies' income? I hope there is not industrial unrest brewing.[/QUOTE]

(D) LOL SB, the ladies had little to say on it, they after all do as they are told, well at least most of the time, and sufficient to say that one ladies income has been suitably improved during my visit.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]What the ....????!!!!! Triple tag team service from the management? New menu item in the dungeon just in time for Duni's visit? :p

Giotto, NO! Auntie, NO! Mrs G? Hmmm, why not? ;)

What do the ladies have to say about this? Is this a management ploy to increase management earnings and reduce ladies' income? I hope there is not industrial unrest brewing.[/QUOTE]
Have you had a few drinks? :confused:
Looks like you are joining the waywardly warped and depraved? :eek:
You must be Board material! :D

Hi,

Greetings from 3 happy Norwegians, this is a wery nice place, good service, nice room. We be back!

[QUOTE=Arne Mann]Hi,

Greetings from 3 happy Norwegians, this is a wery nice place, good service, nice room. We be back![/QUOTE]
I'm not Arnie but "I'll be back" in <3 weeks.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I'm not Arnie but "I'll be back" in <3 weeks.[/QUOTE]
I am not Arnie either, but I will be back in 4 days :D :)

[QUOTE=Duniawala]I am not Arnie either, but I will be back in 4 days :D :)[/QUOTE]

Too bad as my trip out delayed again. Looks more like 3rd or 4th week of Sept which means might cross paths with Mick or Taipei Traveller ;)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Too bad as my trip out delayed again. Looks more like 3rd or 4th week of Sept which means might cross paths with Mick or Taipei Traveller ;)[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,

No problem, we will book a room for you in the Government House :) !


Giotto

Will be visiting BKK beginning 5 Oct o8 for three days at the Lodge. Look forward to hooking up all you fine board members.

BTW, I wasn't aware of the ISG member discouunt. Details? Thanks everyone for all the fine info and look forward to meeting you all.

ID

[QUOTE=Intel Design]Will be visiting BKK beginning 5 Oct o8 for three days at the Lodge. Look forward to hooking up all you fine board members.

BTW, I wasn't aware of the ISG member discouunt. Details? Thanks everyone for all the fine info and look forward to meeting you all.

ID[/QUOTE]Intel Design,

Here you go:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2536[/URL]

See you soon at Livingstone's Lodge.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Too bad as my trip out delayed again. Looks more like 3rd or 4th week of Sept which means might cross paths with Mick or Taipei Traveller ;)[/QUOTE]
Give me a call, mate. Will be nice to catch you again. I'll be at LL 21 Sept meeting an ISG legend from another thread, and stay for about a week in BKK.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Give me a call, mate. Will be nice to catch you again. I'll be at LL 21 Sept meeting an ISG legend from another thread, and stay for about a week in BKK.[/QUOTE]

Your number the same, right? Hope to catch up with everyone before the end of the month.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]... meeting an ISG legend from another thread...[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

Hmmm, who might that be ???


Giotto

Well, BKK is rainy and for some reason Auntie blames me every time it rains... doesn't he know it is rainy season??? Had a strange trip this time and was going to post some items in the BKK reports thread but see it's clogged with OTH vs. the rest of the world drama (and i don't need more drama in my life) so decided to stay away from that thread for a while.

Got stranded in BKK due to the airpot closures... was apologized to a million times and asked how I felt about the current state of affairs one million times and it seems like the majority of thai's do not want to the country as a whole to lose face (or they just don't want me to take my orders and baht away from them :) ) ... I being the typical dumb assed foreigner yelled and screamed at a Thai Airways customer service rep due to frustration and realize what a stupid jack ass I am. So nothing new in this area.

Had only a short night at LL but I did see some new ladies and ran into a very nice looking lady there (unfortunately she looks young enough to be a daughter to me... Giotto are they getting younger or am I getting that much friggin older??), unfortunately I am considered "off limits" by the entire staff and Giotto made me stay away from Miss T@@ to save her for Mick.... :) Really need to stay over to avoid the long commutes...

Hope to make it and stay over for some time for some relaxation but time to move on while the planes are flying :)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV].. Giotto are they getting younger or am I getting that much friggin older??), unfortunately I am considered "off limits" by the entire staff and Giotto made me stay away from Miss T@@ to save her for Mick.... :)
...[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

You will understand that i cannot answer this young/old question without my lawyer being present...

You are right - we have a lot of new girls in the bar. To fill up stock was necessary after customers (incl. MANY ISG BASTARDS :) ) have taken out 11 girls in the first 8 months of 2008 - to make them their TGF! Many new girls now, they don't know how to walk, how to dress, how to make-up, how to behave with customers - they in general have no idea about how to work. Training, training, training ... and if we have given then enough training then - one of YOU BASTARDS OUT THERE come and take them out as TGF :) ... But such is life.

If you come close to Ms. T@@ - even if I see you looking at her - your balls are mashed potatoes! Promise! The same counts for Mick!

BESTARDS :):) !!!


Giotto

hmm...mental note to self...must swing by the Lodge, and have Giotto point out Miss T.

Just curiosity you all understand.

On another note, I'm always in town (well, for another few weeks at least), and always glad to drop by LL and grab a beer. Just PM me.

[QUOTE=Flyhere]hmm...mental note to self...must swing by the Lodge, and have Giotto point out Miss T.
...
[/QUOTE]Flyhere,

Your visit is always appreciated, as you know.

Ms. T. is just another synonym for "Emmy".


Giotto (:))

[QUOTE=Giotto]...Many new girls now, they don't know how to walk, how to dress, how to make-up, how to behave with customers - they in general have no idea about how to work. Training, training, training ... and if we have given then enough training then - one of YOU BASTARDS OUT THERE come and take them out as TGF :) ... But such is life...[/QUOTE]

I think you worry overly about training. I am sure many girls do well indeed without ever receiving your excellent training program. I think good recruiting helps a lot. One of the girls at JC told me she had all of 3 hrs worth of training by the mamasan (not sure if they actually got in the tub)

Now if you would recruit a suitable young lady of my type and train her up, I would sure drop by more often. Just kidding, will remember to swing by.

The reason I don't go to the lodge too often is that for some reasons the staff and the girls never seem to remember me. Not a cool farang like Mick for example who buys them chocolate and converse in Thai and impress them with his wit and charm, I guess.

Or may be not young and handsome with a hairy chest like Nic. Next time Apple asks me if I have any hair, will have to take my pants off.

[QUOTE=Giotto].... and if we have given then enough training then - one of YOU BASTARDS OUT THERE come and take them out as TGF :) ... But such is life.

If you come close to Ms. T@@ - even if I see you looking at her - your balls are mashed potatoes! Promise! The same counts for Mick!

BESTARDS :):) !!! [/QUOTE]

You mean that you train up girls and then some Bastards walk in and take a girl who has not worked long and make her a private TGF?? Who would do such things? Surely not honorable men like ourselves...

Ms. T@@ actually is too sweet to end up with a Bestard...

Anyways.. it's always sad to leave but like VD I never go away for long, I always pop back up :) :)

[QUOTE=Flyhere]I think you worry overly about training. I am sure many girls do well indeed without ever receiving your excellent training program.
...
The reason I don't go to the lodge too often is that for some reasons the staff and the girls never seem to remember me.
...
[/QUOTE]Flyhere,

LOL, I don't know what kind of training you expect us to do, but it will be quite different from the training at a massage parlour. And it is definitely neccessary, all the girls have worked in other places before, and the standards and politics are definitely different there.

The reason that nobody seems to remember you might be that you most of the time sitting with me when you visit the Lodge ... :)


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You mean that you train up girls and then some Bastards walk in and take a girl who has not worked long and make her a private TGF?? Who would do such things? Surely not honorable men like ourselves...
[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

Of course no honorable men like ourselves ... nobody would even think about doing this. But there are so many bastards and bestards out there :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]...The reason that nobody seems to remember you might be that you most of the time sitting with me when you visit the Lodge ... :)
Giotto[/QUOTE]

I know some guests simply have a few drinks with the girls, still, I don't know what the expectations are. I don't want to have a girl sit with me and raise her expectation that I may barfine her. Since I don't stay at the Lodge, it's not like I can simply barfine a girl and go upstairs.

I know what the drill is at a soapie, I can't seem to figure it out at a bar.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

Hmmm, who might that be ???

Giotto[/QUOTE]
I guess you will find out soon enough. From Germany FKK thread and he will be at the lodge with Deutsch friends a couple of days before me I think.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Flyhere,

Your visit is always appreciated, as you know.

Ms. T. is just another synonym for "Emmy".

Giotto (:))[/QUOTE]
ROFLMAO. There is a slight difference in size.

Flyhere,

Miss T is not really hot and sexy, but she is slim & pretty (fantastic ponytail), and seems to be a very friendly girl of good character (without knowing her well).

However her weakness, now that she knows I like her, is the teasing about all my different giks has started.
I haven't figured out how to tease her back yet, since she seems to be virtually faultless. I can only tease her about her teasing of me.

[QUOTE=Flyhere]
The reason I don't go to the lodge too often is that for some reasons the staff and the girls never seem to remember me. [/QUOTE]
Well I have been there countless times now and do chat to the general staff a bit. Even act as occasional brief English tutor for one barman when he has something he doesn't quite understand about English.

Just ring the bell! Then they will remember you! LOL

I don't know if its just that I have got to know the staff. But they do seem to be a very friendly lot. Giotto is the only grumpy one.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Intel Design,

Here you go:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2536[/URL]

See you soon at Livingstone's Lodge.


Giotto[/QUOTE]Thanks Giotto,

I will be in touch.

Intel Design

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I guess you will find out soon enough. From Germany FKK thread and he will be at the lodge with Deutsch friends a couple of days before me I think.[/QUOTE]
...that ML is referring to. Giotto, nice to make ur acquaintance, haven't met but ur a legend in ur own time and I get a kick reading ur posts and enjoying the antics of your community of mongers.

I'll be in BKK for a long weekend mixing some business with alot of pleasure beginning Sept. 19th. Not staying at the lodge, but a fellow monger from the German boards is staying there and we'll be meeting at the bar on the 19th.

Looking forward to finally meet the bestard....

[QUOTE=Flyhere]I know some guests simply have a few drinks with the girls, still, I don't know what the expectations are. I don't want to have a girl sit with me and raise her expectation that I may barfine her. Since I don't stay at the Lodge, it's not like I can simply barfine a girl and go upstairs.

I know what the drill is at a soapie, I can't seem to figure it out at a bar.[/QUOTE]

Couple of things:

1. Giotto has a rule, which is often broken by the girls: after you buy them the first drink, if they for any reason would not agree to be BF, they are suppose to tell you.

2. You don't have to stay at LL to BF anyone, and you certainly aren't limited to taking them 'upstairs'. Many guys come in, BF and take them out...just like if you were at any bar on soi 33 or anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Miss T is not really hot and sexy, but she is slim & pretty (fantastic ponytail), and seems to be a very friendly girl of good character (without knowing her well).

However her weakness, now that she knows I like her, is the teasing about all my different giks has started.
I haven't figured out how to tease her back yet, since she seems to be virtually faultless. I can only tease her about her teasing of me.[/QUOTE]

:D Mick, as i mentioned my interest in her to Giotto, he did say i would have to stand in line behind you and Tansak.

Miss T i would say is not only slim and pretty, but also hot and sexy in a way that only asian women can be. Pretending to be demure and unavailable, whilst at the same time showing glimpses of something far more molten below the surface. She has me hooked for the time being, and it starts the day off nicely if she is serving breakfast, that smile :D

[QUOTE=Flyhere]I know some guests simply have a few drinks with the girls, still, I don't know what the expectations are. I don't want to have a girl sit with me and raise her expectation that I may barfine her. Since I don't stay at the Lodge, it's not like I can simply barfine a girl and go upstairs.

I know what the drill is at a soapie, I can't seem to figure it out at a bar.[/QUOTE]Flyhere,

Don't worry about that - many customers just come in, buy some drinks for the girls and leave without taking them out, that's normal business. Just do as you like ... there is no such thing as an obligation to barfine a girl after buying a drink.

Just take it easy :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]:D Mick, as i mentioned my interest in her to Giotto, he did say i would have to stand in line behind you and Tansak.

Miss T i would say is not only slim and pretty, but also hot and sexy in a way that only asian women can be. Pretending to be demure and unavailable, whilst at the same time showing glimpses of something far more molten below the surface. She has me hooked for the time being, and it starts the day off nicely if she is serving breakfast, that smile :D[/QUOTE]
Oh Shit! The line for Miss T is getting very long indeed! But I think it will take a very good man to hook her. I guess that's not me. :( Maybe I could turn over a new leaf and become like a monk for a while.

I really should not be discussing a proper girl so much on a mongers forum.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Oh Shit! The line for Miss T is getting very long indeed! But I think it will take a very good man to hook her. I guess that's not me. :( Maybe I could turn over a new leaf and become like a monk for a while.[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

Don't forget - between the line-up of men and Ms. T. stands - ME, with the balls cutter in my hand ...



Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

Don't forget - between the line-up of men and Ms. T. stands - ME, with the balls cutter in my hand ... [/QUOTE]

Wow, I was just getting curious and was going to ask what Miss T looked like but, I prefer to stay away, at least until Giotto goes on Holiday :)

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Oh Shit! The line for Miss T is getting very long indeed! But I think it will take a very good man to hook her. I guess that's not me. :( Maybe I could turn over a new leaf and become like a monk for a while.[/QUOTE]

Mick, sorry to ruin your day but by all accounts she is already taken, so we will both have to wait a while.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow, I was just getting curious and was going to ask what Miss T looked like but, I prefer to stay away, at least until Giotto goes on Holiday [/QUOTE]

Nic, just go along for breakfast when she is working, it is a great way to start the day, and there is no ball mincing machine in sight as it is still in bed recovering from the previous night's labours :)

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]...
Nic, just go along for breakfast when she is working, it is a great way to start the day, and there is no ball mincing machine in sight as it is still in bed recovering from the previous night's labours :)[/QUOTE]Taipei Traveller,

True!

BESTARD :)!


Giotto

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow, I was just getting curious and was going to ask what Miss T looked like but, I prefer to stay away, at least until Giotto goes on Holiday :)[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,

Come, come over here, have a look ... we will have "Balls Ragout", "Balls au vin" or "Balls Ratatoille" as the special of the week then :) ...


Giotto

[quote=traveler1234]... you don't have to stay at ll to bf anyone, and you certainly aren't limited to taking them 'upstairs'. many guys come in, bf and take them out...just like if you were at any bar on soi 33 or anywhere else.[/quote]

thanks for the tips. i've also been told the peep inn is just around the corner. i guess i have been lazy, thinking it's a bit troublesome to bf, then take a taxi back to my apt., will save it for next time i want a lt.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Flyhere,

Don't worry about that - many customers just come in, buy some drinks for the girls and leave without taking them out, that's normal business. Just do as you like ... there is no such thing as an obligation to barfine a girl after buying a drink.

Just take it easy :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Will do next time. I was thinking of dropping by for a quick drink, I could use it yesterday. What kind of single-malt Scotch do you carry?

Here is an idea (not sure if it makes business sense though), offer a bottle price with free ice and mixers, that should bring a few regulars. I think some bars around soi 33 do.

PS. I always take it pretty easy. I won't get too excited even when you point out Miss T.

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]:D Mick, as i mentioned my interest in her to Giotto, he did say i would have to stand in line behind you and Tansak.

Miss T i would say is not only slim and pretty, but also hot and sexy in a way that only asian women can be. Pretending to be demure and unavailable, whilst at the same time showing glimpses of something far more molten below the surface. She has me hooked for the time being, and it starts the day off nicely if she is serving breakfast, that smile :D[/QUOTE]Hey Taipei Trav.,

Didn't you requested Emmy to serve you breakfast each morning on your next visit ? She's really looking forward to see you again. ;)

Pretty sure she will take care of you very well !

Auntie

Guys, please, you need to stop talking about Miss T, as if she might be available to you. She is not.

[b]She is my TGF, we are engaged to be married, and we are getting married in october[/b]

This has been a secret courtship, to the point even G and LL staff are unaware of this. I wasn't going to say anything about it until the blessed event, but she is pregnant with my love child, and we need to move the date up.
[QUOTE=Giotto] ... we will have "Balls Ragout", "Balls au vin" or "Balls Ratatoille" as the special of the week then :) ...
Giotto[/QUOTE]
I'm afraid the Balls ragout will be only be a 1/2 portion..........

[QUOTE=1Ball]Guys, please, you need to stop talking about Miss T, as if she might be available to you. She is not.

[b]She is my TGF, we are engaged to be married, and we are getting married in october[/b]

This has been a secret courtship, to the point even G and LL staff are unaware of this. I wasn't going to say anything about it until the blessed event, but she is pregnant with my love child, and we need to move the date up.[/QUOTE]

Like Giotto said earlier... for many people Ms. T might be Emmy... And after your report of marriage I now [b]KNOW[/b] you have Ms. T and Emmy confused...

But I'm confused how there is a love child involved between you and emmy... Anyways... hope you and Emmy have happy life ;)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Like Giotto said earlier... for many people Ms. T might be Emmy... And after your report of marriage I now [b]KNOW[/b] you have Ms. T and Emmy confused...

But I'm confused how there is a love child involved between you and emmy... Anyways... hope you and Emmy have happy life ;)[/QUOTE]
Sticks and stones Tansak, you just jealous I play with that beautiful pony tail

No balls soup for you !!!!!!!!!! (old Seinfeld episode)

[QUOTE=1Ball]Sticks and stones Tansak, you just jealous I play with that beautiful pony tail

No balls soup for you !!!!!!!!!! (old Seinfeld episode)[/QUOTE]

I hope I am that delusional when I am your age.... ;)

Are you calling me the soup nazi... maybe that makes Giotto the Lady Nazi... No Miss T for you Bestards...

Unfortunately he's right... she's too nice a lady to be mixed up with bastards like us :( Enjoy Indo and BKK... Booking the next two trips right now...

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I hope I am that delusional when I am your age.... ;)

Are you calling me the soup nazi... maybe that makes Giotto the Lady Nazi... No Miss T for you Bestards...

Unfortunately he's right... she's too nice a lady to be mixed up with bastards like us :( Enjoy Indo and BKK... Booking the next two trips right now...[/QUOTE]
Me? Delusional? I resemble that remark.

When will you be there? looks like Sept 27 28 or october 9 for me.

[QUOTE=1Ball]When will you be there? looks like Sept 27 28 or october 9 for me.[/QUOTE]

Sorry not same time as you but it looks like nov, jan, and march, now I'm off to Japan and China most likely during your time in LOS.

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
[b]She is my TGF, we are engaged to be married, and we are getting married in october[/b]
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Noted as follows:

[b][size=+2]Wedding Party at Livingstone's Lodge!

October 9th, 2009!

Mr. VP and His Bride Mrs. [red]Emmy[/red] VP![/size][/b]


[b]All bestards are invited![/b]


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

Noted as follows:

[b][size=+2]
Mr. VP and His Bride Mrs. [red]Emmy[/red][/size][/b]
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Mr Chairman, I am not marrying your gik, that would be rude.

[b][size=+2]Wedding Party at Livingstone's Lodge!

October 9th, 2008! 8 PM

Mr. VP and His Bride [red]Miss T[/red] [/size][/b]


[b]All bestards are invited!Bring nice gifts[/b]

[QUOTE=Giotto]Flyhere,

Don't worry about that - many customers just come in, buy some drinks for the girls and leave without taking them out, that's normal business. Just do as you like ... there is no such thing as an obligation to barfine a girl after buying a drink.

Just take it easy :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]
The girls would like you to buy them drinks even if not going to barfine them, or invite them to dinner is good too.

I prefer to buy drinks for more than 1 girl. That way no is expecting a BF afterwards. I don't want to barfine a girl unless I am really hot for her.

Some of the hottest girls are very popular and heavily booked.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Mr Chairman, I am not marrying your gik, that would be rude.

[b][size=+2]Wedding Party at Livingstone's Lodge!

October 9th, 2008! 8 PM

Mr. VP and His Bride [red]Miss T[/red] [/size][/b]

[b]All bestards are invited!Bring nice gifts[/b][/QUOTE]Mhmm, no i am very sad. I thought that we were going to get married soon!

Do you remember showing me that ring? I really liked it!

Auntie

Auntie, what are you doing up at this hour?

shouldn't you be tucked into bed with ............and ............and............and of course, let's not foget............

[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Piper, you are unintentionally agreeing with me. Everybody in the know knows that Giotto's hotel was dead on it's feet, and he was one of the least successful hoteliers in Bangkok until he devised his marketing strategy of targeting ISG.
[/QUOTE]I'll respectfully disagree with you, as I think I have more insight into LL than you do (have you ever been to LL?) But I'll leave it to Giotto to explain the details if he wants to, as he probably has more insight into LL than me. ;) Bottom line is, it's a successful boutique hotel of about 20 rooms (I think), plus restaurants and bars open to the public. ISG members make up only a tiny percentage of the clientele, so it's not dependent on ISG members. Easy logic, yes?

[QUOTE=1Ball]Guys, please, you need to stop talking about Miss T, as if she might be available to you. She is not.

[b]She is my TGF, we are engaged to be married, and we are getting married in october[/b][/quote]

Wow, I am not interested at all in her anymore then... I can't see myself being eager to date a lady who is intrested in a guy that has only 1 ball.

[quote]I wasn't going to say anything about it until the blessed event, but she is pregnant with my love child, and we need to move the date up.[/quote]

Well, I hope you were not expecting any congratulations for this news? because you won't get them here... people might be more inclined to stick a knife in your back and make her "available" again. Can you imagine? a future single mother! she would then be working IN the bar... available for ALL!

(ok, I hope no one kills me next time I go to LL... all was tongue in cheek)

[QUOTE=Piper1]I'll respectfully disagree with you, as I think I have more insight into LL than you do (have you ever been to LL?) But I'll leave it to Giotto to explain the details if he wants to, as he probably has more insight into LL than me. ;) Bottom line is, it's a successful boutique hotel of about 20 rooms (I think), plus restaurants and bars open to the public. ISG members make up only a tiny percentage of the clientele, so it's not dependent on ISG members. Easy logic, yes?[/QUOTE]

You guys are hilarious and I'm tempted (but won't) take TT off the ignore list. From the combined posts of others on the Bkk report thread, it looks like he's still on his one man crusade against Giotto and LL.....I actually think he and The Traveler are siblings - except that The Traveler is much smarter :D

Asking him to enter the dragon's den (Piper1, you sly fox), e.g. this thread, what a 'coup'!

[QUOTE=Auntie Guido]Hey Taipei Trav.,

Didn't you requested Emmy to serve you breakfast each morning on your next visit ? She's really looking forward to see you again. ;)

Pretty sure she will take care of you very well !

Auntie[/QUOTE]

Auntie, how could i even think about taking your beloved Emmy away from you. Trust me when i say that Emmy is and will always remain all yours.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Guys, please, you need to stop talking about Miss T, as if she might be available to you. She is not.

[b]She is my TGF, we are engaged to be married, and we are getting married in october[/b]

This has been a secret courtship, to the point even G and LL staff are unaware of this. I wasn't going to say anything about it until the blessed event, but she is pregnant with my love child, and we need to move the date up.

I'm afraid the Balls ragout will be only be a 1/2 portion..........[/QUOTE]

1Ball, just as long as you leave her working the early morning shift that allows me to start the day nicely, then i will begrudgingly let you have her :) though methinks she is far to good a girl for you :D

[QUOTE=1Ball]Auntie, what are you doing up at this hour?

shouldn't you be tucked into bed with ............and ............and............and of course, let's not foget............[/QUOTE]

1Ball, Auntie is trying to get some reprieve from the insatiable Emmy's attentions, pretending to do some work is just one of the many and varied excuses that Auntie has to resort to when he is to tired to play anymore :D

[QUOTE=Auntie Guido]
Do you remember showing me that ring? I really liked it!
Auntie[/QUOTE]
This ring? Of course I remember. I remember you telling me how hot Emmy looked while wearing it for you !!!

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]1Ball, just as long as you leave her working the early morning shift that allows me to start the day nicely, then i will begrudgingly let you have her :) though methinks she is far to good a girl for you :D[/QUOTE]
Taipei, of course she will continue the morning shift, she needs to bring me her tips so I can hit Tulip in the afternoon. Just don't pay any attention to the crusty bits in the corner of her mouth when she serves you breakfast;

that is just her way of enjoying her own breakfast leftovers...........:D

Staying at Livingston’s

Here is a short summary a longer full report to follow latter.

My expectations were mixed and I had reservations on what to expect.

First of all what I found, gratefully, is the lodge not to be a grungy short time flop house: noisy Nana girls running around the halls all night long, stains on the sheets and roaches on the floor.

What I did find was a Very relaxed atmosphere where I could enjoy a city full of exotic beautiful woman.

The lodge has clean well decorated rooms air-conditioning that works well, great food, in a town where food is super anyway.

The location on Soi 33 is home to some of the better bars in Bangkok. It is also a short (5-10 min) walk to the BTS system, which is the best way to explore Bangkok in air-conditioned comfort. Yes Bangkok can be hot, for old Amsterdam mongers like myself.

I normally stay at five star hotels when I travel on business (I say that not to make my self sound more important, but to explain my expectations) At my stage of life I prefer to travel more comfortably I perhaps would have found the Nana Hotel perfect for my need in 1968, but I am older now.

I arrived at the lodge after a strenuous business trip. I had not gotten more than 4 hours a night sleep during the last four days. It was very convenient to be able to Walk into the sports bar and have easy access to a dozen or more of the best looking women in BKK.

Giotto’s Thai wife runs the sports bar. She sees that all the visitors are happy.

Latter I was able to explore the city and explore all the famous and infamous mongering spots.

It was nice to come back to Giottos and find a refuge from the madness that BKK can sometimes be. I found my follow hobbyists at Livingston’s had expectations similar to mine.

If you want to be able to hang out in a relaxed location eat good food and have a great selection of women at night without have to roam crowded dark streets at night by yourself. This is the place for you.

If you are out for the cheapest place in town Livingston’s may not be for you, however it is certainly less expensive than most places, but this is not the Nana hotel.

Wireless Internet included, breakfast and most importantly Giotto the owner in residence.

Yes I will report on the BBBJ, CIM, reaming, probing and all the hard statistics in the next report elsewhere in the forum.

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[QUOTE=1Ball]This ring? Of course I remember. ...[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Oh yes, I remember that the Auntie told me about the ring - and how much you enjoy the its usage, the stimulation of that one ball :):):) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]Mick, sorry to ruin your day but by all accounts she is already taken, so we will both have to wait a while.

Nic, just go along for breakfast when she is working, it is a great way to start the day, and there is no ball mincing machine in sight as it is still in bed recovering from the previous night's labours :)[/QUOTE]
Miss T usually serves at night (rarely at breakfast I think).

And since you believe she is taken, thats one less in the line. :D

[QUOTE=1Ball]
[b]She is my TGF, we are engaged to be married, and we are getting married in october[/b]
...[/QUOTE]
So thats what happened to your other ball! Now I get it. :D

[QUOTE=1Ball]

When will you be there? looks like [b]Sept 27[/b] 28 or october 9 for me.[/QUOTE]

Bestards, please pencil your calendar for a 9/27th bachelor party for Mr. VP (Mr. G - assume that is the pool party night?). Everyone can bring their own 'ring' for Ms. T ;)

I will be arriving at the Lodge on September 30 for 6 nights. I finally got a flight booked but a little later than i had originally planned. Been so busy at work but I need to take a short break. A one week stay should hold me over until my extended trip in January. I was wondering if any of the more experienced members of the board would be around during that time for a few drinks (on me of course) and to give me a few pointers that i so badly needed last trip. I thought i might meet Tansuk this trip but it looks like it wont happen. Maybe next time.He has been a gentleman over the last few months answering some of my "stupid" questions through e-mails.I am looking forward to seeing the friendly faces at Livingstone's again. I cant think of a better place in the world to unwind and relax and forget about work for a week.

See ya soon,

Kenya69

[QUOTE=Traveler1234] Everyone can bring their own 'ring' for Ms. T ;)[/QUOTE]

You think she'd fall for a pink Cock-Ring?

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Miss T usually serves at night (rarely at breakfast I think).

And since you believe she is taken, thats one less in the line. :D[/QUOTE]

Mick, you are correct, maybe i was just lucky with the number of times she was working breakfast, but it does make the times she does serve breakfast all the more enjoyable, AND i am still in the line :D


[QUOTE=1Ball]Taipei, of course she will continue the morning shift, she needs to bring me her tips so I can hit Tulip in the afternoon. Just don't pay any attention to the crusty bits in the corner of her mouth when she serves you breakfast;

that is just her way of enjoying her own breakfast leftovers...........:D[/QUOTE]

1Ball, no problems, i can think of an easier method to allow her to remove the early morning crusts :)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Bestards, please pencil your calendar for a 9/27th bachelor party for Mr. VP (Mr. G - assume that is the pool party night?). Everyone can bring their own 'ring' for Ms. T ;)[/QUOTE]

T1234, i will only be arriving on the 28th, hopefully both you and 1Ball etc will still be in town

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Bestards, please pencil your calendar for a 9/27th bachelor party for Mr. VP (Mr. G - assume that is the pool party night?). Everyone can bring their own 'ring' for Ms. T ;)[/QUOTE]

I will try my best to be there :) will be great to finally meet

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Bestards, please pencil your calendar for a 9/27th bachelor party for Mr. VP (Mr. G - assume that is the pool party night?). Everyone can bring their own 'ring' for Ms. T ;)[/QUOTE]
I think I can make the 27th.
If Miss T likes diamonds too much too much, then I might have to forget her, but I suppose I need some sort of ring in order to get down on one knee. :p

BTW, guys. Miss T has a son already. I'm hoping that will put some of you off and out of the queue.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]BTW, guys. Miss T has a son already. I'm hoping that will put some of you off and out of the queue.[/QUOTE]

Mick, that sounds like wishful thinking :)

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
BTW, guys. Miss T has a son already. I'm hoping that will put some of you off and out of the queue.[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

A son ... Mr. Vice President [b]jr.[/b] :) ???


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]BTW, guys. Miss T has a son already. I'm hoping that will put some of you off and out of the queue.[/QUOTE]

Yep, assuming I was interested (I am not as I don't know her) that would certainly be a deal breaker for me. A Thai girl with a kid is Damage goods (in my books), there are so many single, young beautiful girls with no kids to support for one to chose from not to get stuck with a kid that's not yours

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]T1234, i will only be arriving on the 28th, hopefully both you and 1Ball etc will still be in town[/QUOTE]

Not a problem! We will start around 10 pm on the 27th and continue on until your grand arrival the next day :D

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]So thats what happened to your other ball! Now I get it. :D[/QUOTE]
No, no, no! He lost his his 1st ball long time ago. He is going to change his handle to NoBalls after his wedding. :D :D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Not a problem! We will start around 10 pm on the 27th and continue on until your grand arrival the next day :D[/QUOTE]

T1234, you definitely going to be there tonight, as i arrived a day early LOL, we hare having a typhoon in TW, so made sense to get out whilst i could.

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]T1234, you definitely going to be there tonight, as i arrived a day early LOL, we hare having a typhoon in TW, so made sense to get out whilst i could.[/QUOTE]

I hear from family and friends the typhoon is nasty - stay safe and hope to see you later this month!

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I hear from family and friends the typhoon is nasty - stay safe and hope to see you later this month![/QUOTE]
Look forward to seeing you soon. Only 1 week to go for me. I trust the lodge will not be booked out at this time of year.
Meanwhile I must battle the hardship of wading through a room packed with 100 naked European stunners at "Oase" FKK near Frankfurt (well at least 15% are close to stunning and almost no dogs). Giotto would never go to such a place (as he is shy) :)
But I am sure T1234 would LOVE these models.
Still it would break the bank quickly so I had better get back to more economical mongering in LOS.

My reports re "Oase" if anyone is interested:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=788691&postcount=2989[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=788966&postcount=2993[/url]

A little addition to LL lore. A friend of mine visited here, and I introduced him to the Lodge. Very favorably impressed by the girls, and intrigued by the mention of rooms with jacuzzi's. As fate would have it, he didn't further his acquaintance with the LL girls, as he met with a SYT in Bacarra.- they said it's her 5th day on the job and she hasn't had any customers. One of the downstairs girls, hiding behind the others.

The staff encouraged him to take her, and though she doesn't say much she keeps on gazing at him with eyes full of trepidation. In the end he can't resist, but he doesn't want to take her to a ST hotel, her first customer must be in a conducive place. And the Lodge fits the bill.

After a whole day of preparation the big night is on (unfortunately the jacuzzi rooms were all taken). I'm quite willing to believe that he really was her 1st. Big sendoff from other girls and waitresses, and numerous calls to reassure her, her sister giving step by step advice over the phone. She slept with cellphone clutched in her hand.

Well, according to him she did eventually relax and the night was a success. Also judging by the absent look in his eyes for the next few days.

HI Giotto,

How are you doing ?

Seems great from the reports.

Planning to visit Bangkok 22nd to 27th September.

Hope room and special deals are available.

Cheers
Indiaman

[QUOTE=Indiaman]HI Giotto,

How are you doing ?

Seems great from the reports.

Planning to visit Bangkok 22nd to 27th September.

Hope room and special deals are available.
[/QUOTE]Indiaman,

Thanks, I am fine.

Rooms are available, though we are surprisingly full despite low season and political unrest :) ...

Livingstone's itself is a good deal already, so you don't need to worry about that.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Indiaman,
Rooms are available, though we are surprisingly full despite low season and political unrest :) ...

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Damn, I'm sending you pm to book my dungeon room immediately. We should thank Terry terrier for all of his marketing efforts on the other threads!

LOL

Tried to look at your website and hits several bad links. Most problems were the menus for the restaurants and some of the galleries.

How busy is the lodge during the March to April time frame and how far ahead do reservations need to be made.

Thanks,
Slim

[QUOTE=Nvslim]...
How busy is the lodge during the March to April time frame and how far ahead do reservations need to be made.
...
[/QUOTE]Nvslim,

Very busy. You should book 3 months before.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]

The staff encouraged him to take her, and though she doesn't say much she keeps on gazing at him with eyes full of trepidation. In the end he can't resist, but he doesn't want to take her to a ST hotel, her first customer must be in a conducive place. And the Lodge fits the bill.

Well, according to him she did eventually relax and the night was a success. Also judging by the absent look in his eyes for the next few days.[/QUOTE]
I took a first time waitress girl out of Dolls House one time although not a virgin.
She had initially insisted that there would be definitely no Boom Boom!
She didn't know much about sex but her being drunk on tequilas certainly helped her get in the mood.
In the morning when sober, she was a pretty lousy fuck so I didn't really see the point in repeating many times to train her up.

[QUOTE=Nvslim]Tried to look at your website and hits several bad links. Most problems were the menus for the restaurants and some of the galleries.

How busy is the lodge during the March to April time frame and how far ahead do reservations need to be made.

Thanks,
Slim[/QUOTE]
Clicking on Menu from Restaurant Page doesn't work for me either. The rest is going O.K.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Clicking on Menu from Restaurant Page doesn't work for me either. The rest is going O.K.[/QUOTE]

Why in the world would you need the restaurant page?

I thought your meal was Ms P as appetizer, Ms M main meal, and a desert of Ms T*M....

That's when you are eating in house... When you eat out it is Soapie appetizer, suzi wong double main meal, and a desert of a long time associate....

I agree with TansakTV,

why do we need to check other pages, when we know whats the MENU!!

I believe, now some special dishes have been added ?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Why in the world would you need the restaurant page?

I thought your meal was Ms P as appetizer, Ms M main meal, and a desert of Ms T*M....

That's when you are eating in house... When you eat out it is Soapie appetizer, suzi wong double main meal, and a desert of a long time associate....[/QUOTE]
LOL. You certainly have summed up the non-fattening delights.
Usually some Miss Js in there somewhere.
Curiosity once caused me to try to check the Menu page.

I have been wondering how I can entertain Miss T** and without losing a ball or two. Perhaps I could invite her for lunch before she starts work.
Still I haven't given up on my GF completely yet. She doesn't come out of the temple completely for another month yet, but I'll be checking the temple to find she is really still there in her white robes. Its in Samut Songkhram so a fair ride to get there though.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Usually some Miss Js in there somewhere.[/QUOTE]

I thought Ms J's were only a breakfast dish ... sorry my mistake

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
I have been wondering how I can entertain Miss T** and without losing a ball or two. Perhaps I could invite her for lunch before she starts work.
...
[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

No way! I WILL find out, and your balls are gone :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

No way! I WILL find out, and your balls are gone :) !

Giotto[/QUOTE]Have been to Giotto Lodge, three months ago, "Royal Asia Lodge" and to tell u the truth there is nothing special in that lodge, other the availability of the working girls within the lodge.

The lodge is far from the main road and you will need to press the botton beside the massage place to order a tuk tuk that belongs to the lodge when leaving and comming.

As with the respect to the provided Breakfast it is not worth eating, neither the swimming pool at the roof.

To sum up there is too much headache and time wasted here about such a place that does not deserve to be used unless everything else is full.

The overall evaluation of the rooms are that they are small with small bathrooms that are not white sparkling.

Good luck in your visits hope you will do better.

[red]All,

I will not delete this report, but I think it is not about Livingstone's Lodge. "Royal Asia Lodge" is not Livingstone's, I don't even know where it is.

We don't have a "swimming pool at the roof", and Livingstone's is not far from the main road (as long as 150 m is not "far"). There is no button to be pressed to get a Tuk-Tuk when leaving and coming. No button, no Tuk-Tuk :) !


Giotto[/red]

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I took a first time waitress girl out of Dolls House one time although not a virgin.[/QUOTE]I'm sure this one wasn't a virgin either. He was 1st customer, not 1st in another sense.

[QUOTE=Maker6666]Have been to Giotto Lodge, three months ago, "Royal Asia Lodge" and to tell u the truth there is nothing special in that lodge, other the availability of the working girls within the lodge.

The lodge is far from the main road and you will need to press the botton beside the massage place to order a tuk tuk that belongs to the lodge when leaving and comming.

As with the respect to the provided Breakfast it is not worth eating, neither the swimming pool at the roof.

To sum up there is too much headache and time wasted here about such a place that does not deserve to be used unless everything else is full.

The overall evaluation of the rooms are that they are small with small bathrooms that are not white sparkling.

Good luck in your visits hope you will do better.[/QUOTE]

Mate, You want to clarify... Giotto's Lodge AKA Livingstone Lodge is not ROYAL ASIA LODGE... Royal Asia Lodge is nothing special I agree. Some folks might not think Livingstones is Great but your facts are way screwed up here.

Livingstone does NOT have pool on the roof (has a pool but on the bottom floor), there is no button for tuk tuk the hotel is right near the road so need for tuk tuk (only button for auntie to come to your room), breakfast is fine, the rooms are actually good sized for the price IMHO (allows for a lot of extra activities besides just in bed), the bathrooms are clean etc...

I think you have written about Royal Asia Lodge not Livingstone Lodge... But to each their own... If you mean Livingstone then you must be really screwed up to think they have tuk tuk and pool on the roof.... Wonder which massage button you pushed ??

Hey Giotto... how come you never let me ride in the tuk tuk? Think I'm still too fat :)


Royal Asia Lodge Soi 8... far up soi 8... [url]http://www.royalasialodge.com/index.html[/url]

Livingstone's Boutique Hotel Soi 33... [url]http://www.livingstones.co.th/[/url] (AKA Giotto's Lodge)

[QUOTE=Maker6666]Have been to Giotto Lodge, three months ago, "Royal Asia Lodge" and to tell u the truth there is nothing special in that lodge, other the availability of the working girls within the lodge.
Good luck in your visits hope you will do better.[/QUOTE]

Hmmmm - your first post on ISG and you don't remember where you stayed? Come on - tell us your real handle :(

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Mate, You want to clarify... Giotto's Lodge AKA Livingstone Lodge is not ROYAL ASIA LODGE... Royal Asia Lodge is nothing special I agree. Some folks might not think Livingstones is Great but your facts are way screwed up here.

Livingstone does NOT have pool on the roof (has a pool but on the bottom floor), there is no button for tuk tuk the hotel is right near the road so need for tuk tuk (only button for auntie to come to your room), breakfast is fine, the rooms are actually good sized for the price IMHO (allows for a lot of extra activities besides just in bed), the bathrooms are clean etc...

I think you have written about Royal Asia Lodge not Livingstone Lodge... But to each their own... If you mean Livingstone then you must be really screwed up to think they have tuk tuk and pool on the roof.... Wonder which massage button you pushed ??

Hey Giotto... how come you never let me ride in the tuk tuk? Think I'm still too fat :)


Royal Asia Lodge Soi 8... far up soi 8... [url]http://www.royalasialodge.com/index.html[/url]

Livingstone's Boutique Hotel Soi 33... [url]http://www.livingstones.co.th/[/url] (AKA Giotto's Lodge)[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

Thanks for clarifying the issue.

And yes, you are too fat :), so no Tuk-Tuk for you. Besides that we don't have a Tuk-Tuk :):) !

And don't talk about Miss T*m, otherwise you will lose your balls.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]And don't talk about Miss T*m, otherwise you will lose your balls. Giotto[/QUOTE]

:( same damn thing the GF says... :(

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]:( same damn thing the GF says... :([/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

That's not too bad, at least you still have balls. Keep them :), forget Miss T*m !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]forget Miss T*m ![/QUOTE]

NEVER !!!! :D :D :D

It's all fun and games until someone get's hurt ;)

But explaining the make a dildo of yourself on the other thread I think I stumbled on a picture of 1Ball :) ... kind of small hope you can make it out...

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]I'm sure this one wasn't a virgin either. He was 1st customer, not 1st in another sense.[/QUOTE]Rocksoff,

Hmmm, I promise I will check it out - but at this moment I am definitely not sure whether there are virgins in our bar :) ... you might need to have a look in Soi Cowboy :):):).


Giotto

Livingstone does NOT have pool on the roof (has a pool but on the bottom floor), there is no button for tuk tuk the hotel is right near the road so need for tuk tuk (only button for auntie to come to your room)

Mhmm, good idea. That reminds me of our new " Dish of the Day "
Ball Ragout
Tom yam ball
Ball's on a stick

Just ask us for that and we'll send Emmy!

Your " Auntie "

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]NEVER !!!! :D :D :D

It's all fun and games until someone get's hurt ;)

But explaining the make a dildo of yourself on the other thread I think I stumbled on a picture of 1Ball :) ... kind of small hope you can make it out...[/QUOTE]
Tansak, please photoshop that pic. My face is showing.............

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

No way! I WILL find out, and your balls are gone :) !

Giotto[/QUOTE]
Perhaps I should go back to Dynasty Grande. They had some nice looking staff there and might well have forgotton who I am by now. So I could pretend not to be a Monger. :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]NEVER !!!! :D

It's all fun and games until someone get's hurt ;)

But explaining the make a dildo of yourself on the other thread I think I stumbled on a picture of 1Ball ... kind of small hope you can make it out...[/QUOTE]
Its just about wall to wall dildos and sex toys here.
I am staying in Frankfurt near the red-light district and we have "Sex World", "Beate Uhse", "Dolly (ball)Buster", and too many others to remember. But don't worry. I am not wasting my time and money mongering in the drug infested red light area with the low class girls and LBs, since I will be at the LL on Sunday, and I prefer a much higher standard of mongering either in Thailand or at FKK "Sauna" Clubs here.

I have stocked up on just about a lifetimes supply of Sex Lube Gel (Condomi make big tubes that I can use to refill more convenient sized tubes such as Ritex). Actually the Lube and condoms were bought at "dm" which is just a soap, toiletries, makeup etc. supermarket. The price in the sex shops is probably well over double or maybe triple, and the sex shop at Frankfurt airport would have even more over the top prices.

I will probably get a few small sex toys for various girls as well.

Today my shopping was for Schokolade (Chocolates) from "Bitter und Zart" who have a wide selection from many countries as the Thai GF and others say "Don't expect anything if you don't have the fancy chocolates for me".

So on arrival in BKK my bags will really be overweight with goodies. :D
My L Lodge room fridge will soon be just about full of chocolates. Not much space for beer I guess. LOL

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...... I will be at the LL on Sunday..........My L Lodge room fridge will soon be just about full of chocolates. Not much space for beer I guess. LOL[/QUOTE]

Mick, shame i am leaving tomorrow but should be back again in a weeks time if you are still around. Miss T has been honing her teasing skills on me all week, so beware on your arrival :D

Here i am, at the end of yet another week in Bangkok staying at LL.

I have finally found something to complain about though, the food is so damn good here the damage it is doing to my weight and waistline is not funny having added several kgs in only a 4 week period, but it is also one factor of LL that can be really looked forward to.

For those readers contemplating a stay at LL then i heartily recommend you try it out. Whilst it is not and i don't think even wants to be a 5* hotel, the amenities and hospitality shown by all members of staff in this travellers' opinion more than make up for that supposed short fall, but then again nor is it 5* pricing either.

Not sure who if any members will be staying when i return again in about a weeks time, but if you are here then give me a shout, happy to meet up over a beer.

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]Here i am, at the end of yet another week in Bangkok staying at LL.

I have finally found something to complain about though, the food is so damn good here the damage it is doing to my weight and waistline is not funny having added several kgs in only a 4 week period, but it is also one factor of LL that can be really looked forward to.
[/QUOTE]

Please tell us which room you stayed - we'll need to ask G to get a new mattress :D

Guido, The Italian Lover

A virile, middle-aged Italian gentleman named Guido was relaxing at his favorite bar in Rome when he managed to attract a spectacular young blonde woman. Things progressed to the point where he invited her back to his apartment and, after some small talk, they retired to his bedroom where he rattled her senseless.

After a pleasant interlude he asked with a smile, "So, you finish?"

She paused for a second, frowned, and replied, "No."

Surprised, Guido reached for her and the rattling resumed. This time she thrashed about wildly and there were screams of passion.

The sex finally ends and, again, Guido smiles and asks, "You finish?"

Again, after a short pause, she returns his smile, cuddles closer to him and softly says, "No."

Stunned, but damned if he was going to leave this woman unsatisfied, Guido reaches for the woman yet again. Using the last of his strength, he barely manages it, but they end together screaming, bucking, clawing and ripping the bed sheets.

Exhausted, Guido falls onto his back, gasping. Barely able to turn his head, he looks into her eyes, smiles proudly and asked again, "You finish?"

Barely able to speak, the beautiful blond whispers in his ear, "No, I Norwegian...and I think I love you..."

Guido, The Italian Lover

A virile, middle-aged Italian gentleman named Guido was relaxing at his favorite bar in Rome when he managed to attract a spectacular blond young man. Things progressed to the point where he invited him back to his apartment and, after some small talk, they retired to his bedroom where he rattled him senseless.

After a pleasant interlude he asked with a smile, "So, you finish?"

He paused for a second, frowned, and replied, "No."

Surprised, Guido reached for him and the rattling resumed. This time he thrashed about wildly and there were screams of passion.

The sex finally ends and, again, Guido smiles and asks, "You finish?"

Again, after a short pause, he returns his smile, cuddles closer to him and softly says, "No."

Stunned, but damned if he was going to leave this man unsatisfied, Guido reaches for him yet again. Using the last of his strength, he barely manages it, but they end together screaming, bucking, clawing and ripping the bed sheets.

Exhausted, Guido falls onto his back, gasping. Barely able to turn his head, he looks into his eyes, smiles proudly and asked again, "You finish?"

Barely able to speak, the beautiful blond man whispers in his ear, "No, I Norwegian...and I think I love you..."

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]Mick, shame i am leaving tomorrow but should be back again in a weeks time if you are still around. Miss T has been honing her teasing skills on me all week, so beware on your arrival :D[/QUOTE]
Stop! I am not supposed to be a jealous man! LOL
Tansak was O.K. because he is well and truelly Thaid Up!
I will definitely have to be there still to chaperone you and Miss T.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Guido, The Italian Lover
....[/QUOTE]
This thread is to become a gay site? :(

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Tansak was O.K. because he is well and truelly Thaid Up![/QUOTE]

OUCH.... OK OK I can see it is time for a divorce... Next trip a mate is coming in at the same time so I'll start a new search. Maybe Giotto or others would like to risk their balls being cut off with me and hit a few places. You know hurry up the divorce proceedings.

Get ready to lose one from the stable but I'll try to put one back in... Fair trade? Or maybe I'll make a run at your Ms T....

This and of course I'll take my free tuk tuk service... but I'll try not to swim naked in the pool on the roof...

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
This and of course I'll take my free tuk tuk service... but I'll try not to swim naked in the pool on the roof...[/QUOTE]
So that was YOU, in the rooftop pool with Maker6666...........

[QUOTE=1Ball]So that was YOU, in the rooftop pool with Maker6666...........[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

You missed THE AUNTIE (may be she was just diving :) ) --- that definitely was a threesome there in the pool!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]OUCH.... OK OK I can see it is time for a divorce... Next trip a mate is coming in at the same time so I'll start a new search. Maybe Giotto or others would like to risk their balls being cut off with me and hit a few places. You know hurry up the divorce proceedings.

Get ready to lose one from the stable but I'll try to put one back in... Fair trade? Or maybe I'll make a run at your Ms T....

This and of course I'll take my free tuk tuk service... but I'll try not to swim naked in the pool on the roof...[/QUOTE]

Your girl will cool down very quickly once you start all this playing up!

But it would be fun to take Giotto out mongering. The ducks are hungry. :D

Please make a run at Miss T. Hopefully will distract the boss from watching out for me. ;) Then I'll make a run at your girl. Whoops, no, that would not be a good idea at all! Too many people know each other.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Please make a run at Miss T. Hopefully will distract the boss from watching out for me. ;) [/QUOTE]

No problem, that's what wing men are for, I'll distract giotto while you make your play. Surely two smart men like ourselves can overcome Giotto.

[QUOTE=Giotto]You missed THE AUNTIE (may be she was just diving :) ) --- that definitely was a threesome there in the pool! [/QUOTE]

Damn I gotta stop drinking... never know what I'll end up with the next morning... A three some? Auntie? Please tell me you jest...

For some reason I think it was brother 1Ball that was swimming in underware then naked in the pool with Auntie...

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]The ducks are hungry. :D[/QUOTE]

I think many ducks are hungry right now but I'm trying not to be the main meal :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
For some reason I think it was brother 1Ball that was swimming in underware then naked in the pool with Auntie... [/QUOTE]
Tansak, if I ever end up in the pool with Auntie, I will be wearing steel bullet proof underwear, if you get my drift.

Ouch....

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
But it would be fun to take Giotto out mongering. The ducks are hungry. :D
...
[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

Giotto is old already. Very old. Living in the time "beyond" mongering...:) ( = tries to keep his balls ).


Giotto

Had a fantastic Thai girl today in Frankfurt of all places.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=791367&postcount=3255[/url]

But still flying out of here tomorrow for Sunday splashdown in the Land of Torrential Downpours
Whoops! Its already tomorrow now.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Tansak, if I ever end up in the pool with Auntie, I will be wearing steel bullet proof underwear, if you get my drift.

Ouch....[/QUOTE]I will wait for you here ! Your last Ball is mine!

Just try to find some recipe's for " mashed ball " or " ball carpaccio"

Will be a pretty small dish.

Auntie!

The airport is nearly empty, the roads are nearly empty. < 1 hour from get off plane to arrive LL.
Surprise the Lodge is virtually booked out.
Its 7:30AM and some are already down to breakfast?:confused:
The lovely Miss T is here to get me a cup of Coffee.

My flight was terrible even after upgrade to Business class. I nneeded a sleeping pill badly. The guy sitting next to me insisted on a very short loud sharp sniff every 2 to 3 minutes.
He kept using the call button to get beers and whiskeys too. Plus crackling of peanut packets.
Finally he went to sleep and then the snoring started.
I normally have less problems in economy.

Please prepare the dungeon for my arrival this Saturday...can we get an rsvp -- who is attending the bachelor's party?

;)

T1234, since I am the guest of honour, I guess I need to be there.
I was just at an Indian wedding a couple of weeks ago in Bali, where the father bought 250 rooms in a 5 star resort for 500 guests for a week. Rose champagne, lamb, huge prawns, he even flew in the hottest Mumbai rock band, unlimited everything, it was great. Fabulous food, drink, and entertainment.

Giotto, of course, not wanting to be undone, has just told me by batphone, that he is doing the same. This is still a secret, but I am so excited, I have to let the cat out of the bag...... Beyonce is headlining the entertainement.

So, for all attending the wedding, please thank Giotto upon check out, when your bill is non existant.

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
Giotto, of course, not wanting to be undone, has just told me by batphone,
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

I can even add some more news ...

Your bride Emmy is really excited already, she tells everybody already how it will be after she picks you up at the airport and comes back to the honeymoon suite - she shows everybody the red silk G-strings she will wear for you that night.

Mrs. T*m told me today that she will also attend your wedding, together with her (Thai) husband.

That will be fun :):):) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

I can even add some more news ...

Your bride Emmy ............ shows everybody the red silk G-strings she will wear for you that night.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Oh My Buddha, Giotto, you owe me a new laptop, I just threw up all over my keyboard.
:eek:

[QUOTE=1Ball]Oh My Buddha, Giotto, you owe me a new laptop, I just threw up all over my keyboard.
:eek:[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Don't worry, Mrs. Emmy VP will love to clean that up for you :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]...
-- who is attending the bachelor's party?
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,

I am in! So happy for Emmy and the VP :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=1Ball]T1234, since I am the guest of honour, I guess I need to be there.

So, for all attending the wedding, please thank Giotto upon check out, when your bill is non existant.[/QUOTE]

Yes young and hansum man - you'd best show up since I've got to bribe by the mrs. to let me rush to Bkk for a weekend of 'business meetings'.
;)

I have been to LL twice with my GF from Indonesia, and each time, she has asked me how is it that I know several guests at the hotel, or how come guys just walk up to our diner table and introcude them selves with funny names. Luckily nobody has ever walked up and said…… hi 1Ball? I am Sirfucksalot… or Hey 1ball old buddy, remember me? I am licktheclit.

So how to get around this. I know some of you have shown up and stayed at LL with a significant other, what do you say to said other, when within 10 minutes of sitting down at a table, or walking into the sports lounge, some guy comes up to you and start talking to you?

I of course would never mention ISG to her, but when asked, I told her LL had a website, where people leave comments, and people get to know each other via those.

Any bright ideas?

Oh, and before I forget, she and I are arriving in the wee hours of friday night, so we will be around saturday night. it would be nice if a bunch of us could all sit down to dinner, leaving mongering jokes for another time, if you please. (ML, I know you will be the perfect gentleman, it is the likes of derelicts like T1234 I am worried about; and don't even get me started on Tansak, ;) )

1ball

[QUOTE=1Ball]and don't even get me started on Tansak, ;) )[/QUOTE]

Bastard... I won't even be there... But will be sure to tell Auntie to give you shit.

In regards to your question, since I lived at the lodge for a while, I would introduce people as saying we have the same hobby (including telling the girls at the table this) or since we all travel so much that we belong to the same travel web site and communicate that way. If and when I am pushed I use Flyertalk as the name of the web site. And I know a few ISG's are on FT as well so it isn't so far fetched (even Trav123 is on FT).

ISG / Flyertalk... almost the same.... :D

[QUOTE=1Ball]I have been to LL twice with my GF from Indonesia, and each time, she has asked me how is it that I know several guests at the hotel, or how come guys just walk up to our diner table and introcude them selves with funny names. Luckily nobody has ever walked up and said…… hi 1Ball? I am Sirfucksalot… or Hey 1ball old buddy, remember me? I am licktheclit.


I (ML, I know you will be the perfect gentleman, it is the likes of derelicts like T1234 I am worried about; and don't even get me started on Tansak, ;) )

1ball[/QUOTE]

Actually Mick can confirm that I am a perfect gentleman when I see an ISG member with a TG or any female. I might be flippant on-line but trust me, I can be 'trusted'.

Btw, clean your pm box, tried to answer your pm.

Guys

Assuming a project meeting goes my way on Wednesday, then i will be back at the Lodge on Sunday morning, hopefully some of you will still be around to meet up with for.

T1234, replied to your PM, hopefully catch you Sunday as well. Don't worry about the mattress, they are built to German standards so are able to withstand all sorts of punishment :)

Mick, now i know why the girls form the sports lounge never left me alone last week, you had them chaperoning me just in case for Miss T :D

[QUOTE=1Ball]Tansak, if I ever end up in the pool with Auntie, I will be wearing steel bullet proof underwear, if you get my drift.

Ouch....[/QUOTE]

1Ball, taking into account Auntie's nationality and their ability to manufacture high precision equipment, i have little doubt that they are equally adept at disassembling such precision manufactured fare, and i understand from Giotto that Auntie is exceptionally talented :D

Maybe time for belt AND braces. ;)

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]1Ball, taking into account Auntie's nationality and their ability to manufacture high precision equipment, i have little doubt that they are equally adept at disassembling such precision manufactured fare, and i understand from Giotto that Auntie is exceptionally talented :D
...
[/QUOTE]Taipei Traveller,

Hmm, the Auntie would only try to install a "high precision" copy of that one remaining ball ... he is always willing to help :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Taipei Traveller,

Hmm, the Auntie would only try to install a "high precision" copy of that one remaining ball ... he is always willing to help :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Giotto, LOL, but he would first need to remove the remaining one in order to make a "precision copy"

Anyway, what are you doing up this early ?? or has the mincer got minced ;)

yesterday, iseeu (i-see-u) a very well known mongering expert on other threads of the isg, came to visit me at the lodge.

he had many exotic and lurid tales for us of sex parties and swinger clubs etc. made me realise what a conservative monger i really am. and giotto here is even more conservative ;)

i decided that nataree might be a bit on the tame side for him after an eden girl had kept him awake all night apparently, although he likes a wide variety of mongering levels it seems.

anyhow the truth is natree would be a tame for me too, so i was keen to get to tulip again. since their were two of us its a very efficient short taxi ride from soi 33. there are 3 mamasans at tulip i believe, and saeng who i know best wasn't there on sunday. i guess everyone gets a day off.
i thought it best that we went downstairs and checked out the line up.
as we descended the stairs, a girl in tight fitting tracksuit dashed off from sitting at the bottom of the stairs. i couldn't see the face, but the waist, bottom, and thighs were definitely reminiscent of yok. turned out that yok was having a day off and was a shorter girl but with similar curvy but tight athletic rear profile.

my friend picked first but i misunderstood his counting system. his "4th from the right" had a different meaning to what it means in australia, so this nearly caused me to call out the wrong girl for him who wasn't exactly the best pick available. however this was corrected and he took the famous "dao". i took a more petite chinese/thai girl with a pretty face. in fact i was surprised that the overall standard of facial looks was quite good in the lineup.

my girl benz (z is silent in thai style) has worked at tulip just 6 months (only just a little more than the new fa) but has obviously been well trained and seems to be really into sex. she said it was tough at first with her pussy at first a bit small to handle all the dick, but she says that with time she has expanded a little and can handle just about anything without suffering damage now. i can't remember all the lurid details now. guys who like big tits will not like benz as she is small up top. i didn't ask for rear door so not comment on that. i don't have a need for extra tight channels when the pussy is just fine.

we had time for a short massge afterwards which was done quite well.

when my friend went for the full 2 hours (had his watch on hand i guess), i came out a full 5 minutes early. i saw a girl who looked a bit like fa on the way out only prettier and was a bit confused. my girl explained that fa had had a nose job recently and in fact almost every girl in the lineup earlier had nose jobs at some point. my girl was one of the few naturals and i assured her that hers was very cute naturally and needed no improvement. i was surprised that i had not really noticed the nose jobs (as normally they are so obvious and bad). but i had to admit that fa looked great and the surgeon had done a fantastic job. didn't look starnge at all. wait till i see the new pretty yok i was told, who also had a nose fix recently. i really hope she hasn't had silicone "bolt-ons" done too as i like her natural tits already.

my friend comes out now and we head back towards ll.
he says that dao had one of the least tight backdoors he ever tried, suggested she might use it a lot or really know how to relax it. ;) lol although dao apparently likes to be in charge and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her victims into submission, he was having none of that and took complete control of the session, (he explains to me).

we had a nice walk back to the lodge, drinks with the girls and invited two of them to dinner. i took miss m and he invited the new mamasan who had a nice body and a bit of cleveage showing, miss b. don't worry anyone. the previous mamasans have not left. but the new one looks hot!

i had missed lunch so i reckon i ate more than the other 3 put together. steamed fish in lemon, yellow curry crab (a big favourite), another fish dish pla duk foo (don't know what to call it in english as its a little unusual to westerners).

quite a few new girls in the sports bar and mrs g showed some glamorous pics of the girls in evening gowns. i found several new girls quite hot, including a chinese looking girl but much curvier than most, also miss g.
a lot of sexy rear-ends in there. i am a bit of a bottom man (big tits not necessary).

but don't despair. some of the famous sports bar girls are still here like miss k and miss t (both usually busy).
anyway i had to postpone my choice.

went to bed early but had a wake call after midnight from an mp girl doing a late takeout for me. after all this had to sleep well despite the body clock supposed to be in another zone.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]We had a nice walk back to the Lodge, drinks with the girls and invited two of them to dinner. I took Miss M and he invited the new mamasan who had a nice body and a bit of cleveage showing, Miss B. Don't worry anyone. The previous mamasans have not left. But the new one looks hot![/QUOTE]

Mick, had left that out of my previous reports, did not want to get you to excited by her and returning to get teased by Miss T.

Miss B is a really nice lady, who also knows what she wants and likes, but is still in need of some training on the pool table although she is picking it up quickly :D

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I found several new girls quite hot, including a Chinese looking girl but much curvier than most, also Miss G.[/QUOTE]

Mick, if you are referring to the one i think you are, then she is a nice girl, and not a bad pool player, but she is not available for an all nighter, will only stay till about 2 am at latest before she needs to go home, she has to get changed etc as she is still studying. In fairness, as soon as you talk about barfining her, she is open and honest about it, which is nice and shows the level of service expected from the girls by Mr & Mrs G, but it can still be a bit of a turn off when it is already 1 - 1.30 am :)

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]... another fish dish Pla Duk Foo (don't know what to call it in English as its a little unusual to westerners).
[/QUOTE]
Yum pla duk foo, crispy catfish in spicy mango salad. Too spicy for me.

Mick (and others), if you are hanging around the LL bar one night, let me know, will be glad to swing by after work and buy you a drink.

[QUOTE=1Ball]...So how to get around this. I know some of you have shown up and stayed at LL with a significant other, what do you say to said other, when within 10 minutes of sitting down at a table, or walking into the sports lounge, some guy comes up to you and start talking to you?

...
Oh, and before I forget, she and I are arriving in the wee hours of friday night, so we will be around saturday night. it would be nice if a bunch of us could all sit down to dinner, leaving mongering jokes for another time, if you please. (ML, I know you will be the perfect gentleman, it is the likes of derelicts like T1234 I am worried about; and don't even get me started on Tansak, ;) )

1ball[/QUOTE]
I have never stayed at LL, so don't have that problem. But in similar circumstances, and since I work here, I'd just say those are people who worked on another project in town, and I met them previously over a beer through a mutual acquaintance.

Also, I don't have extensive mongering jokes or stories to share, having been in town only a few weeks, but would be glad to run down to LL any night for a drink or a bite to eat, and make acquaintance with whoever comes to town. Just drop me a note here or PM. Have been meaning to drop by to say hello to Giotto.

[QUOTE=1Ball]I have been to LL twice with my GF from Indonesia, and each time, she has asked me how is it that I know several guests at the hotel, or how come guys just walk up to our diner table and introcude them selves with funny names. Luckily nobody has ever walked up and said…… hi 1Ball? I am Sirfucksalot… or Hey 1ball old buddy, remember me? I am licktheclit.

So how to get around this. I know some of you have shown up and stayed at LL with a significant other, what do you say to said other, when within 10 minutes of sitting down at a table, or walking into the sports lounge, some guy comes up to you and start talking to you?

I of course would never mention ISG to her, but when asked, I told her LL had a website, where people leave comments, and people get to know each other via those.

Any bright ideas?

Oh, and before I forget, she and I are arriving in the wee hours of friday night, so we will be around saturday night. it would be nice if a bunch of us could all sit down to dinner, leaving mongering jokes for another time, if you please. (ML, I know you will be the perfect gentleman, it is the likes of derelicts like T1234 I am worried about; and don't even get me started on Tansak, ;) )

1ball[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

What's about telling her the truth?


Giotto

PS: I don't really get that, you bring a "girl friend" to you wedding with Emmy? Can you explain that :) ?

Flyhere, it seems at this point that at least Mick Licker, myself, and maybe T1234 will be at LL saturday night. Then Taipei Travelar could fly in on sat, instead of sun.

It could be 50/50 will also be around?

Maybe G can make a small announcement, and then Frenchy and OTH may even show

However, the best laid plans........

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,
What's about telling her the truth?
Giotto
[/QUOTE]
G, that is funny.
I think you know a jealous woman or two ;)
Why not tell her about your mongering ways, and see if the ducks are walking around full.

[QUOTE=Flyhere]I have never stayed at LL, so don't have that problem.

Also, I don't have extensive mongering jokes or stories to share, having been in town only a few weeks, but would be glad to run down to LL any night for a drink or a bite to eat, and make acquaintance with whoever comes to town. Just drop me a note here or PM. Have been meaning to drop by to say hello to Giotto.[/QUOTE]

On-line we're young and hansum, in real life we just normal guys :D
When we have a Board meeting, it's usually a quiet dinner by the pool, some good conversation and a few laughs. Most of us are too tired from the day time antics at Tulip and elsewhere. Please join us...and anyone else that's around - NicFrency et al?

PS - pool party this Sat, so bring your swim trunks or whatever, later at night we sometimes have a quiet party with some of the girls in the pool ;)

[QUOTE=1Ball]G, that is funny.
I think you know a jealous woman or two ;)
Why not tell her about your mongering ways, and see if the ducks are walking around full.[/QUOTE]

1Ball, if G did that then he would not only have to change his name to 0Ball, but would also lose his ability to mince others for trying to flirt with Miss T, the pain would be to excruciating for him :D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]On-line we're young and hansum, in real life we just normal guys :D[/quote]

So you are telling me that Bar and massage girls have all been lying to me these past 4 years? calling me a hansum man and all?

[quote]Please join us...and anyone else that's around - NicFrency et al?[/quote]

Will try my best but saturday nights are usually quite busy for me (if you know what I mean)

[QUOTE=1Ball]G, that is funny.
I think you know a jealous woman or two ;)
Why not tell her about your mongering ways, and see if the ducks are walking around full.[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Why? We are just chatting a bit on the internet, showing around some nice pictures - what is wrong with that :):):) ?

As you know - there are some women (one or two) here in Livingstone's who know about this forum ... LOL!


Giotto

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]So you are telling me that Bar and massage girls have all been lying to me these past 4 years? calling me a hansum man and all?
[/QUOTE]
Well some of us only get called it occassionally and then we can assume she is really sucking up.

[QUOTE=Giotto]
As you know - there are some women (one or two) here in Livingstone's who know about this forum ... LOL!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Shit, I might have to go all prim and proper from now on!

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Shit, I might have to go all prim and proper from now on![/QUOTE]

You forgot about our dinner with Poster Lion and his TG - we were all perfect gentlemen that evening.....

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
Will try my best but saturday nights are usually quite busy for me (if you know what I mean)[/QUOTE]

No matter how busy you are, you still have to come up for air at some point - drop in for a quick drink.

Giotto - have you met this trouble-maker yet? ;) He used to live in Dubai, posted many great reports there, and we met a few times around the traps. He sure knows how to have a wild time. Better get the industrial-strength cleaning team into his room once he departs the lodge!

[QUOTE=Piper1]Giotto - have you met this trouble-maker yet? ;) He used to live in Dubai, posted many great reports there, and we met a few times around the traps. He sure knows how to have a wild time. Better get the industrial-strength cleaning team into his room once he departs the lodge![/QUOTE]Pipeman,

I have breakfast with him every morning. Its really a pleasure to talk to him...

He is a nice well educated guy, always well behaviing, never inpolite. He talks about his job, his wife, his mother at home and his social activities. He never goes out, never goes into the bar, never talks to any girls, always sits at the swimming pool reading books - Shakespeare, Nietzsche etc. . Latest 9:30 pm he calls it a day and heads for his room.

He even repaired my notebook with some special repair tools he brought from home.

HE IS SO DIFFERENT FROM YOU :):):)!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Pipeman,

I have breakfast with him every morning. Its really a pleasure to talk to him...

He is a nice well educated guy, always well behaviing, never inpolite. He talks about his job, his wife, his mother at home and his social activities. He never goes out, never goes into the bar, never talks to any girls, always sits at the swimming pool reading books - Shakespeare, Nietzsche etc. . Latest 9:30 pm he calls it a day and heads for his room.

He even repaired my notebook with some special repair tools he brought from home.

HE IS SO DIFFERENT FROM YOU :):):)!


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a nice guy, although initial impression is he may be a bit boring, but I think I would like to meet him too.

The problem is the earliest I have made it to breakfast so far is about 1.30 pm, so I probably missed him.

I am usually in Cowboy or Nana area around 9.30 pm so I would be back too late for a drink with him too.

Cheers, (The Real) FF

Fifty Fifty - where are your photos?

I still remember your wonderful underwater photos in Dubai - beautiful girls in the swimming pool, beautiful photos.

More to come from BKK?

Hope so!

[QUOTE=Piper1]Fifty Fifty - where are your photos?

I still remember your wonderful underwater photos in Dubai - beautiful girls in the swimming pool, beautiful photos.

More to come from BKK?

Hope so![/QUOTE]

Hi Piper, yes I have photos, but mostly I take good ''decent'' pics now, havent really needed to take many naughty ones, my collection is good.

I showed G a few pics of the more interesting girls I have had here, but I will have to find time to re-size them and post for the boys I suppose.

Talking of underwater stuff, I got a new Olympus 1030 SW amazing 10 MP and fully waterproof down to 10m.

I took my very naughty Kazakh GF to Istanbul a fortnight ago and being a confirmed exhibitionist she wore the tiniest Wicked Weasel Bikinis, drove the Turks in the Hotel nuts. Four guys set the six tables and cleaned the few windows of the poolside restaurant continuously everytime she was up on the rooftop pool posing. I got loads of new underwater pics and video too - very interesting, must post a few of those if I find the time.

I also showed G a few of her sightseeing in Istanbul, she was wearing her usual micro mini skirt with nothing else of course - so the sightseeing was good for me and some of the other guys. Poor old Turks were going crazy and it was Ramadan too !!!

Pool Party at the Lodge next Saturday may be interesting - we will see.

Cheers, FF

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]On-line we're young and hansum, in real life we just normal guys :D
When we have a Board meeting, it's usually a quiet dinner by the pool, some good conversation and a few laughs. Most of us are too tired from the day time antics at Tulip and elsewhere. Please join us...and anyone else that's around - NicFrency et al?

PS - pool party this Sat, so bring your swim trunks or whatever, later at night we sometimes have a quiet party with some of the girls in the pool ;)[/QUOTE]

So what time is dinner? Will swing by on Sat for sure.
Thinking of running down to Siam or MBK to see if I can buy an electronic dictionary first, Cyberdict I think.

[QUOTE=Flyhere]So what time is dinner? Will swing by on Sat for sure.
[/QUOTE]
8.00 PM. how does that sound?
Giotto, you may have to set a table for 15-20 people, if we can guilt OTH, Nic, and ML to show up with a few lovelies. T1234, 50/50, will you guys be there? Emmy will be proudly wearing her new red thong. Let's hope Giotto doesn't rip it off with his teeth.

[QUOTE=1Ball]8.00 PM. how does that sound?
Giotto, you may have to set a table for 15-20 people, if we can guilt OTH, Nic, and ML to show up with a few lovelies. T1234, 50/50, will you guys be there? Emmy will be proudly wearing her new red thong. Let's hope Giotto doesn't rip it off with his teeth.[/QUOTE]

Saturday I have Dinner Plans with a lovely lady and then have to meet my Gik for some movies (at home).
I might be able to pass by for a very short introduction.

Or maybe some of you fancy an afternon soapy Session? like 3pm?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Saturday I have Dinner Plans with a lovely lady and then have to meet my Gik for some movies (at home).
I might be able to pass by for a very short introduction.
...
[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,

That is not acceptable. Move that date to Sunday...

Saturday, 8 pm, Dinner, Pool Party :) !!!


Giiotto

Mrs. on 12:45 CX flight to Taiwan, I'm on 12:30 TG flight to LOS. See you all at 8 pm sharp for dinner, I should be alone. Plan on late afternoon visit to either Akane or Tulip to get the kinks out of my shoulder and lower back ;)

[QUOTE=1Ball]8.00 PM. how does that sound?
Giotto, you may have to set a table for 15-20 people, if we can guilt OTH, Nic, and ML to show up with a few lovelies. T1234, 50/50, will you guys be there? Emmy will be proudly wearing her new red thong. Let's hope Giotto doesn't rip it off with his teeth.[/QUOTE]

Yes guys I intend to be there, with a 50;50 to accompany me, of course. Haven't seen any in the lodge so far so it looks like a BYO job to me.

Cheers, FF

[QUOTE=Giotto]NicFrenchy, That is not acceptable. Move that date to Sunday...
Saturday, 8 pm, Dinner, Pool Party :) !!! Giiotto[/QUOTE]

Mind if I join in on the fun, too? I promise I won't bring my camera...

[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/fon_tok_mak_mak/[/url]

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Mind if I join in on the fun, too? I promise I won't bring my camera...

[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/fon_tok_mak_mak/[/url][/QUOTE]Fon Tok,

Of course, everybody is welcome.

Great pictures, btw. .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Mrs. on 12:45 CX flight to Taiwan, I'm on 12:30 TG flight to LOS. See you all at 8 pm sharp for dinner, I should be alone. Plan on late afternoon visit to either Akane or Tulip to get the kinks out of my shoulder and lower back ;)[/QUOTE]
I might join you. I want a last crippling session with Yok.

Hey fellow travellers,

One LONG week until I aarive in LOS. I will arrive on Sunday, 10/5. Are any of you all planning on being there around that time? Looking forward to sharing a cold one or two with some of you. Feel free to PM me.

ID

I am watching the girls rehearsing modeling for the pool party tonight. I am very confused. Several hotties here.
Which one do I like most.
Maybe I can invite two girls to dinner. ;)

I think Miss K (sounds like hard G) is very hot. This will be confusing as there are several girls with name starting K here.

Maybe T1234 and i will get up to mischief even before the party tonight.

I needed to see my Tulip girl Y just one more time befoe leaving BKK so I made a 5PM booking. T1234 was just getting off the plane arriving in BKK, so needed to visit a Tulip girl J desperately.
He also made a 5PM booking by coincidence. Lucky we didn't both try to book the sme girl LOL Anyway we went in tandem.

Both nice looking girls with good bodies, but mine Y was the tall one.

I took the vibrartor this time as I was deternined to work this girl in submission.

After she got to 5 pops, I felt sorry for her as the day wasn't over. Only 2 pops were vib assisted. She must have been horny ;) as her first pop was after barely 2-3 minutes of DATY. Of course I have learned exactly how she likes it now after several visits. Licking is O.K. but she likes to be sucked on too!
Her pussy does go into extreme squeezing convulsions so I don't think she could fake this.

She got 2 pops during cowgirl (or was it one ).
The reverse cowgirl was too much for me to hold out . So its a bit of a blur now.

When T1234 was having a little break in his session, he later said they could hear my girl screaming.

I had a ten minute rest (after the energy depleting romp) before having my final pop at the end.
She then said I had timed the 90 minutes exactly, even with no watch. Gave her a nice tip (a bit more than normal)

Said Y could keep the vibe.
Later T1234 says that Miss Y now had the big dildo that his girl Miss J used to have. But now Miss Y has a small vibe to add to her collection.

We were lazy to walk back to Livingstones so took the BTS just one stop. I could still walk O.K. today.
All this sexercise is starting to improve my fitness.

Had a big dinner table with One Ball and his Mrs, Giotto, Fon Tok, Flyhere, fifty/fifty, Traveler1234, and one or two others (not sure of handle). Not sure who was the youngest but only Giotto had a full head of hair without grey, so I guess he looks the youngest. Nic Frenchy didn't show up (too many gik appointments).

Since OneBall had his Mrs with him (a nice Bali girl similar to Thai looks), mongering topics were not advisable and anyway I'm shy in front of the staff. 50/50 had brought along a cut hottie Miss A. So I invited a very cute tall girl from the bar Miss G, and Flyhere invited Miss S.
Our girls got called away to do the fashion parade and pool banana boat races unfortunately. But they returned after drying off.

Was dissappointing I had to leave early at 10PM. somebody else would have to BF the girl in my place.

At the airport they coulkd get me into business class and started to offer me the next morning which I had previously been denied when trying to change to that time. However turned out weas a false alarm and the morning flight had no seats as I was originally told. Pity. For a moment I thought I was going to return to the party.

Its not great to leave with so much unfinished business.
Still mnay things on to do list that didn't get crossed off, including BF the new girl Miss G.

Will have to return in a few weeks.

Strangely the superstar Miss T was also available last night. I have never seen her available before. Another Miss T also looks hot to me as does a new Chinese looking but very cute Miss W (she is also a pool shark). The famous Miss K is away somewhere. Some other famous girls have left after picking up boyfriend(s).

The mamasan ranks have expanded to it seems 4 if you count Mrs Giotto as a mamasan. Perhaps she doesn't do mamasan duties, prefering more important things.

As usual mamasan Tina tried to inerest me in the girls that didn't interest me, but luckily I know my own taste and no one can divert me. For some reason others seem to think I would like the more aggressive more wayward type of girl where I actually like the one that is shy, classy, and a bit prim and proper (mostly). :D Pushy girls are a big turn off for me.
I wish to be the hunter rather than the quarry.

Was a shame to miss the wilder end of the party having started to get the hots for Miss G too.
Seemed to be a LB troup turning up just as I left.

Just to add to Mick's report.

FiftyFifty also had such eyes for beauty and pointed out the very pretty Miss S to me, so Miss S it was as my dinner companion.

The parade, the banana boat races, the singing and dancing numbers by the dressed-up troupe were such fun and enjoyed by all I'm sure. After dinner and after Mick rushed off to the airport, we retired back into the sports bar.

The troupe continued with some more cabaret style numbers, a few more drinks, a few tequilla shots by the girls, a few dances by the male staff dressed up in slinky outfits, and...FiftyFifty and his girl rang the bell!

My Miss S came back with a tray full of tequilla shots with lots of lime and salt. Enough for everyone, mamasan Tina had a shot, even the dining staff who had served us earlier came in for a shot each.

I actually had not had a chance to scan the talents earlier, there seemed to be a few new faces. My Miss S turned out to be a little skinnier than I like, still she is very sweet.

It seems an excellent party was had last night, just a shame i was not there to join in, certainly seems to have been more entertaining than the last one.

Mick shame i missed you you arrive the day the day after i go, and leave the day before i arrive.

I look forward to meeting some of the crew this trip, as i am here for two weeks this time.

The last saturday of the month at Livingstone is the pool party. As coincidence would have it, there also happened to be a day when a few notorious and nefarious forum members were in town.

A table was set up for dinner for about 12-13 people. Joining the group were Fon Tok, Seeko, T12324, Mick Licker, Giotto, Fly Here, Fifty Fifty and yours truly. Food started to arrive, and I thought it wouldn’t stop. Now the food at LL is usually very good, but the food last night was off the chart. Truly spectacular. There was soft shell crab curry, prawns, whole fried fish, fabulous satay, you name it, it was there. We all swapped stories, while watching the fashion show, and the Lady boy show Giotto loves so much. Auntie was in fine form, acting as Emcee, and doing a great job as usual.

And then……………..the piece the resistance, Emmie wants to dance. Dressed in a skin tight little black cocktail dress, fishnet stockings, and very sexy make up, her hair tousled just right, she climbs onto the little round stage, and does her best Tina Turner, with microphone in hand. Coyote dancing, I hear you say? Not just coyote dancing, but very naughty coyote dancing, with the occasional flash of the turquoise panties. It was a riot, she was great, and I couldn’t resist slipping 100 Bt in the stockings and giving her a slap on the ass. (thanks Fon Tok)

Herewith a few pictures of the event.

1Ball - I still remember the time you took these three back to your room late one night after a Saturday party. You seemed dazed and confused the next day - they must have really worked you over good. ;)

[QUOTE=1Ball]
A table was set up for dinner for about 12-13 people. Joining the group were Fon Tok, Seeko, T12324, Mick Licker, Giotto, Fly Here and yours truly..[/QUOTE]

Hey 1B did you forget somebody ?? I noticed that you were not the only member there who was accompanied a hot little number, perhaps G's notorious Shakespeare Reader was there with the lovely Miss A too.

Joking aside, it was truly a good night, we all had great food, good company and fun too, although I did manage leave the lovely Emmie and the rest of the 'Dancers' alone.

My little companion was a bit shy at first but soon she was enjoying herself chatting and drinking with all the guys and girls, she also got a bit excited and ''Rang the Bell' then later on got pretty drunk too.

Having recovered we surfaced for a very late LL Breakfast (You just cant beat the All Day service) which always goes down well, especially for us boring Shakespeare Readers :)

Fortunately we were not put off by a strange character frolicking in the pool whilst we ate though.

Cheers, FF


[red][size=-1]Fifty Fifty,

The Vice President asked me to add your name in the report below - he is terribly sorry that he forgot you - and that he swam when you had breakfast :) ...


Giotto[/red][/size]

Hi,

I have finally arrived back at LL after more than 15 months. A little has changed during the time I have not been here, and I have to say they are all for the better.

I practically live in hotels travelling most of the time. I never miss the marble bathrooms, spa's, flowers on the bed etc. offered by 5 star hotels. But I realized I missed being here when having dinner yesterday at LL. Nice to be back.

Meal I had was marvellous last evening, I am committed to try everything on the menu. :)

I managed to make it for the last moments of the pool party and it was really fun. Unfortunately I had to retire early.

Ok G, thanks for the amendments to 1Bs post, now that you have confirmed I havent totally lost my mind and that I was really there, here are a few pics of a good time had by all.

The Pool Pic is the best I could get of Micks Companion Miss G, presumably under the water looking for her Oysters??

1Bs Lady certainly did dance well and deserved the 100 Baht too !!

Cheers, FF

Sorry to beg off so early - needed to rest my old soul after long delayed flight to HK night before. And Ms. J at Tulips, take that back, actually Ms. Y from next door with ML sapped whatever energy I had on reserve.

Just walked in after entire day driving up to and back from Kanchanaburi visiting a family friend's daughter and scoring some points from the Mrs. for leaving her at the HK airport (so that I could make it to the pool party last night).

Glad to meet up with all at dinner - hopefully you all will be downstairs later tonight.

Hey Mick - hope you're back home safely - mind if I test drive the new Ms. G before you return? I'll help her with her upcoming accountant exams....LOL

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]
Hey Mick - hope you're back home safely - mind if I test drive the new Ms. G before you return? I'll help her with her upcoming accountant exams....LOL[/QUOTE]
I was almost disappointed to be alloted virually the last seat available and told that others would have to spend the night in BKK.

Fine as long as you don't tell me she was crap when secretly you like her. But I'm always a bit of a skeptic, I might have to try myself anyway.

I wonder which females read these reports? I might have to start thinking of being more of a gentleman.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Had a big dinner table with One Ball and his Mrs, Giotto, Fon Tok, Flyhere, fifty/fifty, Traveler1234, and one or two others (not sure of handle). Not sure who was the youngest but only Giotto had a full head of hair without grey, so I guess he looks the youngest. Nic Frenchy didn't show up (too many gik appointments).[/QUOTE]

Bummer! I would have loved to join the party but had a prior commitment with a lady. Choice was difficult but Pussy prevailed so I stayed home with the cutie.

Looks like you guys had fun :D

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]...My little companion was a bit shy at first but soon she was enjoying herself chatting and drinking with all the guys and girls, she also got a bit excited and ''Rang the Bell' then later on got pretty drunk too....[/QUOTE]
FiftyFifty, Your Miss A is very lovely. I mentioned to her that I might run down to Cowboy and say hello to her one night when I have time, hope that's ok with you.

Miss S is also a sweet one, I hope I won't cause her to lose face if I do not BF her next time. Actually that's why I hadn't intended to BF anyone at LL, as I wanted LL sports bar to be my regular watering hole.

Man, those girls can drink tequilla!

In any case, I was going to run down to LL tonight to deliver some photos to Miss S, and grab a drink if anyone is around. Unfortunately, a dinner date with my favorite got moved a couple of hours (what's with the Thai and not being able to be on time?), and I have to work tomorrow :(, will catch up next time.

Giotto, please be sure to post a reminder for the next LL party.

fly

12Ball, Piper158.600 and Giotto~n,

It's great to hear you guys are still going straight, uplifted and erect. It has been a while but "Should old acquaintance be forgot"?

Sometimes still follow the discussions here, same same, which is good in this case.

I only work the Middle East and North Africa now, no chance to go to either LOS or LOPA, bad on me, but this is life.

Good memories of the "raid of the metrosexuals on the dungeon" and other pleasure stuff.

Still on my way with a caravan full of potatoes, and who knows, maybe sometime I will really arrive in Giotto's "stairway to heaven".

For the time being, happy hunting, keep it up and keep the pool parties wet wet wet.

Pleasure

Brotherrabbit, despite your name-change, you have not been forgotten. If you are working in MENA now, you should drop into Dubai for a drink one day (Dubai is surely the most fun place in MENA).

Piper6.328.349 Will do, and I appreciate the invitation. Got stuck into f-ing Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. Forget LOS, mongering in those countries is something you have to experience to believe. Sometimes see reports from you in those places, and even though you are one of those metrosexuals frequenting the dungeon and therefore not to be taken very seriously, you have a way, you certainly have a way (judging from your pics, only a very small way, very small, but as long as you pay, no complaints right ?). Just joking (not !), but after such a long absence it is important not to start insulting everybody straight away. Send me a pm and we will get together. Need some serious business advise on how to get my feet on the ground in your part of the world. No need, banter is also ok.

[QUOTE=Straight Flush]...
I practically live in hotels travelling most of the time. I never miss the marble bathrooms, spa's, flowers on the bed etc. offered by 5 star hotels. But I realized I missed being here when having dinner yesterday at LL. Nice to be back.
...
[/QUOTE]Straight Flush,

Welcome back! Good to have you with us again.

You should have joined us last Saturday - BESTARD! Where have you been, where did you hide :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
We all swapped stories, while watching the fashion show, and the Lady boy show Giotto loves so much.
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Thank you very much for your report about your Wedding Party last Saturday - it was really a great event!

Many thanks also for the exciting pictures of your bride [b]Emmy[/b] - btw., is it unpolite to ask for a report about the wedding night :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Had a big dinner table with One Ball and his Mrs, Giotto, Fon Tok, Flyhere, fifty/fifty, Traveler1234, and one or two others (not sure of handle). [/QUOTE]
Sorry Seeko,

I must have caught only your real name. I was also sorry to miss meeting Taipei Traveller.

But now I have finally met 1ball, he seems tame enough in the flesh. Perhaps he was on his very best behaviour ;) His nice lady must be a good influence.

Actually none of the guys seem as wild in the flesh as they might appear in forum posts.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Actually none of the guys seem as wild in the flesh as they might appear in forum posts.[/QUOTE]
..and we'll probably all live longer because of it!

The other night I was thinking the same thing, but then the thought came to mind that guys who live a lot of their monger life (out loud) on computers are basically nerds at heart. I know I could be accused of this!

The [i]real cool guys[/i] are too busy to care and are probably luddites!

[QUOTE=Flyhere]FiftyFifty, Your Miss A is very lovely. I mentioned to her that I might run down to Cowboy and say hello to her one night when I have time, hope that's ok with you.

fly[/QUOTE]

Hey Fly, I am at present back in London, on my way out to Kaz tomorrow, who was Miss A anyway??? ha ha.

Actually she is a very nice young lady, maybe thats why, at the risk of seeming boring, I hung onto her for so many days. In all honesty the first week I spent in BKK was enough of a chop-n-change for me, but it was all good fun.

Now I am gone, I am sure you (and anyone else who is interested) know where to find her :)

Cheers, FF

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Actually none of the guys seem as wild in the flesh as they might appear in forum posts.[/QUOTE]

Well we all seemed to be on our best behaviour, after all, there were ladies present too !!

Perhaps if we had all had the ''free oysters'' and drinks, things could have become a tad more rowdy :)

See you all again soon, I hope.

Cheers, FF

[QUOTE=Flyhere]
and...FiftyFifty and his girl rang the bell!
[/QUOTE]
So now FiftyFifty is well known/notorious because he and Miss A beat you to ring the bell! :D

I like the way he hangs on to a girl for a while if she is really good as that is my style too. He certainly picked a nice one as we all agree. She seemed very chatty with Miss G next to me. Definitely a good move by FF after the earlier "horror" story about the leaking girl.

a funny thing happened on our last evening at the Lodge. we had a 3.30 AM flight to Rome, so hung around until late. at 9.00 PM, we came down to dinner, and Mrs. G, with one of her friends from the bar, were busily munching on a huge plate of grasshoppers. I was absolutely NOT interested, but my GF sat down, and after a bit of coaxing, gave them a try. She looked at me and said "tastes like chicken". so she had about a dozen, and said she had a itchy feeling in her throat. Our food arrived, and we had dinner. 2 hours later, she was praying to the God of Porcelain, puking her guts out. What then followed was 12 hours of the runs, in a small airplane toilet. Never again am I eating this shit, she exclaimed.

Anyway, I thought it was funny.:D

[QUOTE=1Ball]a funny thing happened on our last evening at the Lodge. we had a 3.30 AM flight to Rome, so hung around until late. at 9.00 PM, we came down to dinner, and Mrs. G, with one of her friends from the bar, were busily munching on a huge plate of grasshoppers. I was absolutely NOT interested, but my GF sat down, and after a bit of coaxing, gave them a try. She looked at me and said "tastes like chicken". so she had about a dozen, and said she had a itchy feeling in her throat. Our food arrived, and we had dinner. 2 hours later, she was praying to the God of Porcelain, puking her guts out. What then followed was 12 hours of the runs, in a small airplane toilet. Never again am I eating this shit, she exclaimed.

Anyway, I thought it was funny.:D[/QUOTE]
How appalling! I don't suppose you have anything sexy to report :(

It was great on Sunday to meet up not only with 1Ball, but an old friend in T1234 as well as being introduced to Fifty Fifty.

A good night was had by all accords last Saturday with the pool party, judging by the photos Mrs G showed me on Sunday on my arrival here.

Seeko is still in town somewhere i think, but leaving shortly, so anybody else still knocking around then give me a shout.

The Sports bar was highly entertaining last night with the arrival of a well known - if not on this forum - guest, and an extremely late night was had by all who took part in the festivities, 1Ball you should not have left with the misery of your flight, you would have enjoyed last night.

Regret to advise won't be returning to Bkk as planned. I finally went to doc in HCMC and discovered reason for my pain in right arm - ruptured bicep tendon. Apparently happened when I fly out of states last week. So now in HCMC airport, meeting Mrs. tonight in HK and flight home tomorrow for surgery next week.

What an excuse for losing to TT at pool this past weekend. But I will return in November, after the elections ;)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Regret to advise won't be returning to Bkk as planned. I finally went to doc in HCMC and discovered reason for my pain in right arm - ruptured bicep tendon. Apparently happened when I fly out of states last week. So now in HCMC airport, meeting Mrs. tonight in HK and flight home tomorrow for surgery next week.

What an excuse for losing to TT at pool this past weekend. But I will return in November, after the elections ;)[/QUOTE]
At your age you should know that sexual gymnastics are getting too dangerous.
Were you trying to join the mile high club or what?
My brother broke his hand when trying to screw his GF, obviously not in the mish position.

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]...Seeko is still in town somewhere i think, but leaving shortly, so anybody else still knocking around then give me a shout.
....[/QUOTE]
I mean to run down to LL to deliver some photos and grab a few drinks, can always use a drinking buddy tonight, if you are still in town. I just sent my favorite girl off after spending today with her, so not in any shape to BF anyone at LL. Will PM you my number.

fly

Decided to run down to Soi Cowboy tonight to look up somebody, only to find almost all bars closed...what the hell? a few bar/restaurant places that were open had handwritten signs at the door "No Alcohol"...what's going on?

So LL is just up the road, so I took a walk there..."no alcohol"

The girl in front recognized me, asked her why no alcohol, it turned out that it's the election tomorrow (which I knew, for the Bangkok governor, but I didn't know the part about no alcohol for 2 days).

In any case, dropped in at the sports bar and said hello to Mamasan Tina. It was dead quiet and the girls looked really bored. Was informed that the boss Mr. G is sleeping upstairs, probably taking advantage of the slow weekend to catch up on his sleep.

Dropped off some photos with mamasan who exclaimed how good they were, and of course all the girls had to come by and look. Ordered a coke, and a drink for Tina. Told Apple to stay to talk and get a drink for herself, she complained "why you not take care of me?", "You took photo for S****, why you don't take photo of me?" to which I answered "because you girlfriend of Nic".

Haha, ok, ok, just kidding, I didn't say that.

And yes, Mick, I can hear you say... that you already told us about being labelled as a particular girl's customer. They sure remembered who we had dinner with last week.

Sorry, not much else to report. Oh, I think the new Presidential Suite is ready, or will be ready tomorrow. And mamasan said the next party is for Halloween.

fly

It's after midnight, and alcohol is sold again in Bangkok.

Within the last 20 minutes ONE customer rang the bell 4 times ... what is going on there in the Sports Lounge?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]It's after midnight, and alcohol is sold again in Bangkok.

Within the last 20 minutes ONE customer rang the bell 4 times ... what is going on there in the Sports Lounge?

Giotto[/QUOTE]
Well must have been an ideal opportunity with a nearly empty bar, or did he just win the lottery?

[QUOTE=Giotto]It's after midnight, and alcohol is sold again in Bangkok.

Within the last 20 minutes ONE customer rang the bell 4 times ... what is going on there in the Sports Lounge?


Giotto[/QUOTE]
May be Mr. Big Spender saw not many girls left in the bar? ;)

[QUOTE=Flyhere]
And yes, Mick, I can hear you say... that you already told us about being labelled as a particular girl's customer. They sure remembered who we had dinner with last week.
[/QUOTE]
Keep em guessing, I say is better!
But I will probably BF Miss G (K) at next chance if she hasn't been stolen away by then.
Moves like a fashion model and luscious lips.

Just think, being stuck as Miss A's customer.
Far too hot for me! I was very happy that Nic was there to distract her that day.
I'll take a prim and proper one thanks.
One day Mamasan will cotton on to the fact I like
pretty and shy girls, and Miss A is definitely not on the shy side.

I wouldn't mind trying superstar Miss T just once to find out why she is soooo popular with all the young guys.
Must have some very special skills I bet.
Whoops, I can just imagine a jealous reply from Sonic Bam coming soon (or am I confused with someone else)!

And little Miss K has the cutest behind like a ripe peach (or is it just an apricot) that needs plucking.

Choices, choices ....
I have a bad reputation for butterfly already so can't get much worse I guess.

I am planning to be at the Lodge Wed Oct 29th (unfortunately will miss the pool party again).

Surely not you - the crazy bell ringer???? :confused:

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Keep em guessing, I say is better!
But I will probably BF Miss G (K) at next chance if she hasn't been stolen away by then.
Moves like a fashion model and luscious lips.

Just think, being stuck as Miss A's customer.
Far too hot for me! I was very happy that Nic was there to distract her that day.
I'll take a prim and proper one thanks.
One day Mamasan will cotton on to the fact I like
pretty and shy girls, and Miss A is definitely not on the shy side.

I wouldn't mind trying superstar Miss T just once to find out why she is soooo popular with all the young guys.
Must have some very special skills I bet.
Whoops, I can just imagine a jealous reply from Sonic Bam coming soon (or am I confused with someone else)!

And little Miss K has the cutest behind like a ripe peach (or is it just an apricot) that needs plucking.

Choices, choices ....
I have a bad reputation for butterfly already so can't get much worse I guess.

I am planning to be at the Lodge Wed Oct 29th (unfortunately will miss the pool party again).

Surely not you - the crazy bell ringer???? :confused:[/QUOTE]
No, it wasn't me, only had one coke and left.

I will keep an eye on Miss G (K) for you...just kidding...I did see her there on Sat. I still don't know who Miss T the superstar is, will ask next time, you might have pointed her out but may be I wasn't interested and was not paying attention.

There was one at the pool table, taller, quite good looking, similar in looks to your favorite #6* at JC. She kept glancing my way each time she walked past, but again I was not paying attention, so didn't ask mamasan.

Giotto:

I enjoy reading the forum but the guys keep talking about the girls in the sports bar like its an inside joke. Would you kindly post some non-nude pictures of the girls so all of us will know who they are talking about? The girls sound very enticing and the pics on the website leave much to be desired.

Thanks,
Slim

[QUOTE=Nvslim]... but the guys keep talking about the girls in the sports bar like its an inside joke....[/QUOTE]
It's not meant to be insider joke or info I don't think, at least not by me. Some of us are trying to be discreet and not naming names straight out. A little exposure is good, too much exposure is not.

Unlike some bars or MP's who advertise with photos of their girls, LL does not, and I take that as not wanting any photos, so I have avoided taking photos when I am there.

IMHO, the girls don't look any better or worse than what you will find around town, some will find the girls not too exciting, it's all personal taste. It's just a convenient hangout for some.

Greetings. I have spent several months in and around Bkk but this time would like to try something different. I will be arriving on the 14th of october...are there any vacancies? I will need some sporadic dates as I will be bouncing to Pattaya then returning, then bouncing to the phillipines and then returning.


14th arrive 11:30 pm at airport
15th
16th
17th leave to pattaya


return to LL

22
23
24 leaving for Phillipines

return to ll
Nov

1st
2nd
3rd leave for states.


Could you accomodate this schedule? Thanks in advance for your response.

[QUOTE=WestFLA]...
Could you accomodate this schedule? Thanks in advance for your response.[/QUOTE]WestFLA,

Still some vacancies, don't worry. But - can we do all this per mail, using our website for the reservation process?

[URL]www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

Thanks.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Nvslim]Giotto:

I enjoy reading the forum but the guys keep talking about the girls in the sports bar like its an inside joke. Would you kindly post some non-nude pictures of the girls so all of us will know who they are talking about? The girls sound very enticing and the pics on the website leave much to be desired.

Thanks,
Slim[/QUOTE]Nvslim,

Sorry, no, I decided in the beginning, that picture of our girls will not be published here, and the girls will not (mis)used for marketing purposes for the Lodge.

Girls come and go. Livingstone's stays.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]
Whoops, I can just imagine a jealous reply from Sonic Bam coming soon (or am I confused with someone else)! [/QUOTE]
Nope, mate, no jealous reply from me. Not acquainted with Miss T. Tansak maybe?

The other ones you describe sound good - will have a look at the weekend. ;)

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Nope, mate, no jealous reply from me. Not acquainted with Miss T. Tansak maybe?[/QUOTE]

Wrong letter of the alphabet for me too... Know many Ms T's but no reason for me to be jealous...

[QUOTE=Giotto]Nvslim,

Girls come and go. Livingstone's stays.

Giotto[/QUOTE]


Slim:

Mr. G is correct, girls come and go.

I took about 20++ pictures of the fashion show and dirty dancing (video) during a month end pool party in March. I burned them all onto a CD and gave to one of the mamasans to share with the girls and another to Mrs. G. (And trashed them from my hard drive when I left LOS)

When I returned the end of September, at least half of the girls are no longer there. I didn't bother taking pictures at this month end pool party - although many of the new girls were pretty hot.

Come for a personal visit....regulars don't have any inside track on the girls. They welcome all that walk in the bar.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Nvslim,

Girls come [/QUOTE]

Yes, they do come.... unless the customer's not very good ;)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Yes, they do come.... unless the customer's not very good ;)[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,

BESTARD :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Nope, mate, no jealous reply from me. Not acquainted with Miss T. Tansak maybe?

The other ones you describe sound good - will have a look at the weekend. ;)[/QUOTE]
Yeh I'm getting old. The memory is befuddled. T1234 will probably know which ISGer I am mixed up with.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Yes, they do come.... unless the customer's not very good ;)[/QUOTE]
And a few keep on coming (memories of Tulips).

Its lucky that Thailand seems to have only a small percentage of starfish girls. Back in the homeland there are lots of starfish so I wouldn't even bother.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Nvslim,

Girls come and go. Livingstone's stays.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the reply. I have a real itch for a visit to see for myself. Hope I can work out the details next year. LL is on the top of my list for hotels.

Slim

1Ball arrived at my place tonight. As usual, the mo-fo charmed everyone in my house (except me) with his smooth-talk and tales of derring-do. He talked Wildcat into going with him on a fully-expense-paid trip to Malaysia next month, and Wildkitten wants him to stay at our place for "fibe more years!". Even the maid is fucking flirting with him, giggling like a 15 year old girl.

The only reason I haven't kicked him out yet is because of the bottle of JW Green Label he brought along (but when it's empty, he's in trouble).

He threatened to get down to his polka-dot boxer shorts and frolic with everyone in the pool tomorrow. Please, no.

Would it be bad etiquette if I kick him in the ball, really hard?

Yours,

Desperate.

Hi all,

Hi T1234, Piper1, and of course Hi Giotto,

I am on a business travel to Malaysia next month, and decided to make Bangkok by connection instead of London or Singapore, i wonder why ;)

I intend on visiting your fine establishment, a little bit like a religious pilgrim visiting Jerusalem for the first time, hehe

I visited livingstone's web site but could not get to see the "events" page, some kind of issue (maybe your side) getting me a nice "HTTP error 404" message.

Could you share here if you have any events planned between now and end of November ? As i have a flexible planning, i could arrange to be in BKK during one...

And of course, i'll be happy to meet other ISG members and get them a drink ;)

See you soon.

[QUOTE=Piper1]...Would it be bad etiquette if I kick him in the ball, really hard? [/QUOTE]
That would not be very nice, surely there are other ways :)

photo warnings: no nude, comics only

[QUOTE=Piper1]1Ball arrived at my place tonight. ...

Desperate.[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

Believe me - I know what you suffer right now ... :)

The best solution would be to leave him in your apartment, and you come here to the Lodge :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=The Voyager]
I intend on visiting your fine establishment, a little bit like a religious pilgrim visiting Jerusalem for the first time, hehe
[/QUOTE]

Gawd - that's the first time I've heard G's place being characterized as the next Mecca - LOL.

[QUOTE=The Voyager]
Could you share here if you have any events planned between now and end of November ? As i have a flexible planning, i could arrange to be in BKK during one...
[/QUOTE]

The last Sat of every month is the pool party - later in evening there is usually a 'fashion' show, some live entertainment and by in large, just another excuse to have a party! Other weekends - a maid's party where the girls dress up as you know what.

Seriously speaking, anytime is a good time to drop in for a visit and a drink. It's getting closer to high season but LL has been pretty full recently.

I'm sure Giotto will jump in when he gets up later.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]...
I'm sure Giotto will jump in when he gets up later.[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,

...gets up later ... BESTARD! Unbelievable.

We are building the "Presidential Suite" (not the final title) at the moment. It makes me sick. Every Thai craftsman does what he wants. Nobody ask how I want it. They build something, and when I then check it we build it a second time. Still nobody of those guys has learned to ask a simple question BEFORE he starts to do something...

Yikes, Thailand pure again, it is such a useless waste of time. You explain things to the boss of the construction company, 1 time, 2 times, 3 times - and still the outcome is different. Now all those Thai workers love me a lot - I am one of those damned farang idiots who wants everything differently, who is never happy (with something I haven't ordered), and who makes them work overtime because they have to do everything twice.

Can somebody please take of the credit markets? I have all hands full with this construction site - no sufficient time which bank is going bancrupt next. What the hell, I am much too old for all this nonsense.


Giotto

[QUOTE=The Voyager]Hi all,

I intend on visiting your fine establishment, a little bit like a religious pilgrim visiting Jerusalem for the first time, hehe

I visited livingstone's web site but could not get to see the "events" page, some kind of issue (maybe your side) getting me a nice "HTTP error 404" message.

Could you share here if you have any events planned between now and end of November ? ...
[/QUOTE]The Voyager,

Pilgrim - Jerusalem - as long as you don't call me "Jesus" you are welcome here :) !

Don't worry about our website - it is (partially) not working. We had already 2 (in words two) new companies starting to develop a new website ... we are of course optimistic that one day we will get it done. It has a lower priority in our open issue list, because the booking site still works :):) ...

Events: The second Saturday of the month should be the Maids Party in the Sports Lounge, the third Saturday of the month the Champagne Night. And the, as mentioned by the Marketing Director - the last Saturday is always reserved for the Swimming Pool Party. So - there will most likely an event when you visit the Lodge over a weekend.

See you then here at Livingstone's!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]...Don't worry about our website - it is (partially) not working. We had already 2 (in words two) new companies starting to develop a new website ... we are of course optimistic that one day we will get it done. It has a lower priority in our open issue list, because the booking site still works :):) ...[/QUOTE]
Of course it's your website, if you don't worry, then people shouldn't worry. :)

I still do not know why these web guys can't get anything to work...well, I know why, they are a bunch of incompetent idiots...may be? They must be related to the IT people at my work here...LOL

Perhaps you could use someone outside LOS. I'm no expert, but I can get a site like yours up and running, and running well, in a week. A real pro I'm sure can do it in less time.

fly

Mecca, pilgrimage, Jerusalem...No, I think he means Holy land...LOL

I had the pleasure of a 6 night return visit to the Lodge last week. It was nice to get back to paradise. Got to have a few conversations with the big man himself. He was very busy with the new Presidential Suite which sounds like when finished should be very nice. Spent a most of my nights in the Sportsbar. Many new beautiful girls since my last visit and it is still a great place to hang out and chill. Had the pleasure of meeting Taipai Traveller and having drinks with him. He enjoyed watching me get my ass kicked at pool. Smirky bestard. He is a true gentleman. He was busy and was working long hours but I managed to convince him in to partying with some liquor. I spent some time with the new mammasan who is a great girl. Nice addition to the sportsbar.

The food and service at the Lodge IMHO is as good and if not better than most places I have been.

It was great to get back. I will be there from Jan 14th to Mar02 if there are any members that are planning to be there. It would be my pleasure to buy any of you a drink. It will probably lead to many drinks. A reminder that Mr. G's birthday is on Feb 14th. Probably be a party that night I would think.

Thanks for the memories

Kenya69

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Giotto

Finally met 1Ball (with Piper) last night!

1Ball is not as you tell me! He is suave, sophisticated, intelligent, a great all round nice guy. I was expecting far worse from your descriptions but he was far better - but then Piper was the comparison :)

1Ball even managed to talk business with 2 cute Filipinas at 1am in the bar - well thats his excuse - and thats a man who puts business first and pleasure second.

Good to meet him after the emails and PMs. He say nice things of you (but maybe that is the beer talking:))

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]...
Finally met 1Ball (with Piper) last night!

1Ball is not as you tell me! He is suave, sophisticated, intelligent, a great all round nice guy. I was expecting far worse from your descriptions but he was far better - but then Piper was the comparison :)

1Ball even managed to talk business with 2 cute Filipinas at 1am in the bar - well thats his excuse - and thats a man who puts business first and pleasure second.

Good to meet him after the emails and PMs. He say nice things of you (but maybe that is the beer talking:))[/QUOTE]Wicked Roger,

What shall I say - to me it looks like you either met a 1Ball in disguise, or that was not the real 1Ball. But then, comparing him to Pipeman - then it cannot get much worse anyway :) ...

Don't believe him if he says nice things about me, that must be beer talking.

Btw., when do I meet you first time here at Livingstone's Lodge?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Giotto

Finally met 1Ball (with Piper) last night!

1Ball is not as you tell me! He is suave, sophisticated, intelligent, a great all round nice guy. I was expecting far worse from your descriptions but he was far better - but then Piper was the comparison :)

1Ball even managed to talk business with 2 cute Filipinas at 1am in the bar - well thats his excuse - and thats a man who puts business first and pleasure second.

Good to meet him after the emails and PMs. He say nice things of you (but maybe that is the beer talking:))[/QUOTE]
Actually WR, after you left at 12.30, in order to make it back to Abu by 1.00 AM, (WR's nickname on the road is actually Fangio), the 2 cute Filipinas told me THEY are going to abu today, and we are all driving there together today. Trying to mix business with pleasure..... WR, do you happen to know of a ST hotel between Dubai and Abu Dhabi, by chance?

Oh, and WR, you obvioulsy do NOT know me very well, I would NEVER say nice things to anyone about Giotto. Must have been the blind one legged, hunchbacked dwarf who grabbedy your ass, after all, it was rather dark in that bar. ;)

[QUOTE=1Ball]Actually WR, after you left at 12.30, in order to make it back to Abu by 1.00 AM, (WR's nickname on the road is actually Fangio), the 2 cute Filipinas told me THEY are going to abu today, and we are all driving there together today. Trying to mix business with pleasure..... WR, do you happen to know of a ST hotel between Dubai and Abu Dhabi, by chance?

Oh, and WR, you obvioulsy do NOT know me very well, I would NEVER say nice things to anyone about Giotto. Must have been the blind one legged, hunchbacked dwarf who grabbedy your ass, after all, it was rather dark in that bar. ;)[/QUOTE]
:)

ST hotels en route to AD, there are no ST hotels IMHO but a couple of cheapish ones. But Pipoer says 4 lovelies cam and took you to the air[oprt

As for the blind one legged dwarf .... never heard that dscription of Piper before :)

It was a fun night. Just wrote up a brief report in Dubai thread.

1Ball is a smooth operator, and just left my place for the 90 minute trip to Abu Dhabi airport, squeezed into an expensive car with 4 hot Filipinas from last night (not working girls). Should've see the smile on his face as he waved goodbye (while I cried out of jealousy!)

Speaking of 'smooth operator' - that's one of my favorite songs by the sultry Sade. While 1Ball was chatting up the Filipinas last night, I was next to him chatting up a Sade look-alike at the bar - not a working girl. I'm in love, and I have her number. Now to arrange a few days off work for a so-called 'business trip-away' with her. :)

thanks again Piper for the hospitality.
Oh, were you outside when I got into the car with the 4 smoking hot girls? I didn't notice..........

except for the pool of tears on the sidewalk of course............

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Marketing Director,

...gets up later ... BESTARD! Unbelievable.
Giotto[/QUOTE]

Ah, a typo: i meant when giotto 'can get it up'....LOL.
Good news - no surgery required for my arm. Hoping to return in next few weeks for rematch with Taipei Traveller at the pool table. I think ML will also be back around the same time - party time again!

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Ah, a typo: i meant when giotto 'can get it up'....LOL.
Good news - no surgery required for my arm. Hoping to return in next few weeks for rematch with Taipei Traveller at the pool table. I think ML will also be back around the same time - party time again![/QUOTE]

Great however my pool skills aren't too good.
Miss M and I teamed up to beat the pool shark Miss W (who is really good and looks quite hot, in a Chinese way, but nicely curvey) only because she got lumped with Mamasan T who was quite a basher.

I will be there around end of Oct beginning Nov.

[QUOTE=Kenya69]I had the pleasure of a 6 night return visit to the Lodge last week. It was nice to get back to paradise.
...
[/QUOTE]Kenya69,

Since you left so many girls are sadly sitting in the corners, crying :) ...

It was good to have you with us again for some days - very few days only this time. But the long vacation is already approaching at the horizon. I hope that the time goes by fast, and that I then see you again in the beginning of next year.

Will tell the girls - hopefully they will then stop crying :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Great however my pool skills aren't too good.
Miss M and I teamed up to beat the pool shark Miss W (who is really good and looks quite hot, in a Chinese way, but nicely curvey) only because she got lumped with Mamasan T who was quite a basher.

I will be there around end of Oct beginning Nov.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Ms W has a sharp pool skill and is a crafty hustler; I mean, she has her own cue. She also has a subtle way in snagging a guy's attention and having him fall for her easily. (I guess, if we don't fall in love with her, then, she is not doing her job, so can't fault her for doing a marvelous job.) ;)

Funny or weird story with me and her:

On 15 Sep, Monday, I first met her, bought her drinks, and eventually wanted to BF her. But, I had to let go of her that nite. Her long-lost, old-time friend arrived just before midnite, and she wanted to go with him, as it was his last nite in BKK. Who was I to be a cockblocker to a fellow mariner, so I said goodbye to her and allowed him to BF her. Both of them did apologize to me and thank me for understanding the situation.

On 27 Sep, Saturday, I ate dinner with her and Mamasan T, but wasn't planning on taking Ms W. She wasn't feeling too well and wanted to rest, so that she can study well the next day for her exams. So, being a gentleman that I was, I paid BF to let her go home early. :o
I still needed a dance partner, so I BF'd Ms B. As we were leaving LL, Ms W saw us, learned where we were going (Hollywood), and wanted to come along. I became her good conscience and told her to go home. :(

On 30 Sep, my last nite in LOS, I again ate dinner with her and 2-3 other ladies and even rang the bell (silently). I had some business to take care of, so I left early with promises of returning later.
Of course, upon my return, I realized that I should not have left, as I saw that Ms W was getting cozy with Tpe Trv. Not big deal. I wasn't going to ruin their fun. Anyway, I ended up going to Spice Club with Mama T and two other ladies (Ms. A and Ms. T or Ms. M and Ms. N; sorry, hard to keep track of them without photos). So, everyone enjoyed that nite... :)

And, I certainly wish the best for Ms. W's future...
Seeko

[QUOTE=Seeko]Yes, Ms W has a sharp pool skill and is a crafty hustler; I mean, she has her own cue. She also has a subtle way in snagging a guy's attention and having him fall for her easily. (I guess, if we don't fall in love with her, then, she is not doing her job, so can't fault her for doing a marvelous job.) ;)

Funny or weird story with me and her:

On 15 Sep, Monday, I first met her, bought her drinks, and eventually wanted to BF her. But, I had to let go of her that nite. Her long-lost, old-time friend arrived just before midnite, and she wanted to go with him, as it was his last nite in BKK. Who was I to be a cockblocker to a fellow mariner, so I said goodbye to her and allowed him to BF her. Both of them did apologize to me and thank me for understanding the situation.

On 27 Sep, Saturday, I ate dinner with her and Mamasan T, but wasn't planning on taking Ms W. She wasn't feeling too well and wanted to rest, so that she can study well the next day for her exams. So, being a gentleman that I was, I paid BF to let her go home early. :o
I still needed a dance partner, so I BF'd Ms B. As we were leaving LL, Ms W saw us, learned where we were going (Hollywood), and wanted to come along. I became her good conscience and told her to go home. :(

On 30 Sep, my last nite in LOS, I again ate dinner with her and 2-3 other ladies and even rang the bell (silently). I had some business to take care of, so I left early with promises of returning later.
Of course, upon my return, I realized that I should not have left, as I saw that Ms W was getting cozy with Tpe Trv. Not big deal. I wasn't going to ruin their fun. Anyway, I ended up going to Spice Club with Mama T and two other ladies (Ms. A and Ms. T or Ms. M and Ms. N; sorry, hard to keep track of them without photos). So, everyone enjoyed that nite... :)

And, I certainly wish the best for Ms. W's future...
Seeko[/QUOTE]
"Rang the bell silently? Thats sounds similar to me buying a drink for every girl in the bar and getting introduced to them all but eventually I got to Miss G (Usually spelled K but sounds like G) who I interested me the most

I hope to meet you sometime soon as you are indeed a gentleman. You might have to take the bull by the horns and grab Miss W for yourself one night. I would love to hear if she is as hot as she looks. She probably came close to hooking me one night. I have to admit she is rather fetching despite me normally preferring a narrower face look over a chinese look. Another day Miss G grabbed my attention as she looked and even walked like a model, and big luscious lips, but Miss W would probably have been my 2nd choice as her figure looks very special and she seems a lot smarter than the average bar-girl.

Don't let that mamasan T lead you astray! I buy her drinks and chat to her but always ignore her attempted match making completely! She tries to foist me onto new girls or not so demure girls that don't interest me. She is quite harmless as long as you ignore her advice completely.
So it seems mamasan's choice and my taste in girls are just about diametrically opposite.

Problems! I would really like to sample Miss G and Miss W and Miss M, but thats rather a long butterfly list and impractical in my short time available.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]She is quite harmless as long as you ignore her advice completely.[/QUOTE]

ROFL.... Thanks for the tea I just spit all over my keyboard Mick...

Trust me, you don't want to get on her bad side, I've been on her bad side for one year now and still remain on her shit list. Of course I am a Bastard so I probably deserve it. But I agree, her idea of what I was looking for and my idea were completely opposite. But you and I have similar taste in ladies so maybe it is us.

And from what I remember she used to work at a certain other place on 33 before, one that uses chains and whips if you like. So she is not harmless if you do not want her to be. :D

Stayed at LL last month, had a hell of a time, all the girls in the Sports Bar were great. Trouble is never could put a face with an initial (example Miss W etc). Know all the Mamasans and met and BF more than a few of the girls but don't know who is who with the one letter names. Can't wait to get back. Anybody have anyway to help on this issue?

Have to say, why would anybody stay anywhere else. Saw Giotto at breakfast time but didn't want to bother him as he was working on his laptop and I on mine. Talked to Guido who was a pretty interesting guy. Anyway was my first time there, but definetely not my last by a longshot. Pretty much just stayed there every night and played pool. Was a great time, everything you need is all under one roof. Kind of like a Thai Disney World with benefits. Anyway thanks for the time.

Weird One

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]ROFL.... Thanks for the tea I just spit all over my keyboard Mick...

Trust me, you don't want to get on her bad side, I've been on her bad side for one year now and still remain on her shit list. Of course I am a Bastard so I probably deserve it. But I agree, her idea of what I was looking for and my idea were completely opposite. But you and I have similar taste in ladies so maybe it is us.

And from what I remember she used to work at a certain other place on 33 before, one that uses chains and whips if you like. So she is not harmless if you do not want her to be. :D[/QUOTE]
You've cracked me up too. But fortunately my coffee was well finished.

One day I'll have to find out why you are a bastard and what a bestard is too. :)

[QUOTE=Weird One]Stayed at LL last month, had a hell of a time, all the girls in the Sports Bar were great. Trouble is never could put a face with an initial (example Miss W etc). Know all the Mamasans and met and BF more than a few of the girls but don't know who is who with the one letter names. Can't wait to get back. Anybody have anyway to help on this issue?

Have to say, why would anybody stay anywhere else. Saw Giotto at breakfast time but didn't want to bother him as he was working on his laptop and I on mine. Talked to Guido who was a pretty interesting guy. Anyway was my first time there, but definetely not my last by a longshot. Pretty much just stayed there every night and played pool. Was a great time, everything you need is all under one roof. Kind of like a Thai Disney World with benefits. Anyway thanks for the time.

Weird One[/QUOTE]
You saw Giotto at "breakfast time". That would be a first. Either very late b'fast or the stock market was crashing.

Thai names are a little weird and hard to remember. I have now been introduced to every girl working at the last pool party but will struggle to remember them in a couple of weeks. But i will make an effort to remember a few.

I too have forgotten names of girls I spent the whole night with after just a few weeks.
Did you ever BF a girl only to eventually remember you have been with her before and was terrible last time too? Thats why its a great idea to keep some notes of names and ratings. Its strange how I can look back at my old notes and be suprised to read that she was much better than what I can remember.

We tend not to name names fully due to wanting some slight ambiguity at times in case someone is reading that shouldn't be. Then maybe they won't 100% sure who we are talking about.

Of course even though there are 3 or mamasans, Miss T can only be one person. So it doesn't really work.

If you met a curvaceous pretty chinese looking girl with light skin who was fantastic at pool, that would be sweet Miss W and if introduced her name starts with W. Right handed but always puts her left eye over the cue. Now its clear to everyone without the full name I suppose.
But at least I say only good things about her.

Some letters like N and K are so common that they could refer to several girls.

One help to remember names is that a few girls are named after fruits:
Mangosteen, Durian, and Papaya - no not those fruits, just kidding. ;) But unless you know the Thai words for fruits wouldn't help much.

[QUOTE=Weird One]Know all the Mamasans and met and BF more than a few of the girls but don't know who is who with the one letter names. Anybody have anyway to help on this issue?[/QUOTE]
Did you check out the printed photos on the glass wall of the Sports Bar?

There are two 8x10's or A4's with photos and names, so you can identify who's who. Ms. W showed them to me to verify that she indeed worked there. Initially, I accused her of either being first-day at work or being a regular customer, since she doesn't seem to belong there. :o

I should have snapped an image of them for reference. Now, it's too late, but then, like Mr. G said, "girls come and go," so no point wasting brain cells on such trivial pursuit. ;)

Go there, have fun, and enjoy...
Seeko

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]You saw Giotto at "breakfast time". That would be a first. Either very late b'fast or the stock market was crashing.[/QUOTE]

Every time I see him over the last couple of days he has either been scowling at his laptop or scowling at the building works. Is midday late for breakfast?

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Right handed but always puts her left eye over the cue.[/QUOTE]

Ah man, I was going to have a (relatively) early night. I'm going to have to go and have a look now!

Been here for a couple of days. Bar was quiet Sat / Sun nights but maybe that's because I went down late. Was sitting by pool tonight for dinner and it seemed a lot livelier. Excellent meal and the never empty glass of Singha. Not so bad this!

I guess as always you guys hit the nail on the head, it really doesn't matter who is who as "girls come and then they go, but you really have to give the mamasan's a lot of credit as almost all the girls devote themselves and are trained to show us a great time.

When I stayed there it was said that as a ISG member I would receive some kind of discount if I would write a report while I was there, but I wanted to wait and let everything "soak in" before I wrote anything, I really don't care about a discount when you have so much fun there. It realy is amazing how great the all in one place, food, bar, girls and Mamasans that Livingstones is, so the discount really becomes immaterial when you can enjoy yourself so much in one place. I am pretty new to the forum but I have to say that if you are patient and read then 99% of your questions will be answered by the senior members, thanks again everyone for all the info you have provided.

Weird One

[QUOTE=Seeko]Did you check out the printed photos on the glass wall of the Sports Bar?

There are two 8x10's or A4's with photos and names, so you can identify who's who. Ms. W showed them to me to verify that she indeed worked there. Initially, I accused her of either being first-day at work or being a regular customer, since she doesn't seem to belong there. :o

I should have snapped an image of them for reference. Now, it's too late, but then, like Mr. G said, "girls come and go," so no point wasting brain cells on such trivial pursuit. ;)

Go there, have fun, and enjoy...
Seeko[/QUOTE]
Its great to have a cheat sheet, so we can pretend to remember them all now.

Went into the Sports Bar about 11:30 after a quick chat with G about how the markets were doing, at least he seemed to understand what I was saying with my "horrible accent".

Sports Bar was jumping, I stayed until almost closing time and it was busy up till the end. I did hear the bell being rung earlier in the night and it looked like some of the ladies had taken full advantage of that. I think maybe the tequila needs a restock today.:)

[QUOTE=Weird One]I guess as always you guys hit the nail on the head, it really doesn't matter who is who as "girls come and then they go, but you really have to give the mamasan's a lot of credit as almost all the girls devote themselves and are trained to show us a great time.
[/QUOTE]
What are you giving the mamasan credit for? :confused:
I don't think the girls get any bedroom training other than by the customers. :D

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Went into the Sports Bar about 11:30 after a quick chat with G about how the markets were doing, at least he seemed to understand what I was saying with my "horrible accent".
...
[/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,

I didn't understand a single word - you have a horrible accent! :)


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]What are you giving the mamasan credit for? :confused:
I don't think the girls get any bedroom training other than by the customers. :D[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about?
The credit goes to the TQM dept. ensuring that we train all the girls to give top level service. We also train the mamasans to train the girls when I am absent. Hah!! :)

Sir Duniawala
TQM Director

[QUOTE=Duniawala]What are you talking about?
The credit goes to the TQM dept. ensuring that we train all the girls to give top level service. We also train the mamasans to train the girls when I am absent. Hah!! :)

Sir Duniawala
TQM Director[/QUOTE]
You have trained the mamasan? How good was she?
Judging by her approach to playing pool, I reckon would have been too powerful for me to cope with. ;)
There are now several mamasans to choose from.
Did you meet the new one recently? Some reckon she's pretty hot.

girls at the lodge don'y have any handles like forum members, so i have decided to invent my own handles for them in the future.

e.g.
mrs giotto (that's well accepted)
miss t-rex
miss slippery-peel

miss sexy-taxi
miss panther (couldn't use wildcat due to piper1's wife)
miss forbidden-fruit
miss maestro
miss gail-force
miss sweety
miss shadey
miss ringer-ding
miss full-of-charm
etc.

so for example, i could say what out for that pool shark miss sweety, or miss forbidden fruit is waiting for nicfrenchy's return and ready to tempt. ;)
see miss panther in a g-string by the pool. what perfect glutes.
i can't stop looking at miss gail-force's luscious lips.
i have a soft spot for miss full-of-charm.

those who know the girls will be able to guess quite easily i reckon.

At the moment life is not easy. The actual situation:

- We have a political crisis in Thailand, no end in sight.

- We have a border conflict with Cambodia, some soldiers died.

- We have a financial crisis and a stock market crash, nobody knows where Mature Man is (who can fix it) but Karl Marx is already dead.

- We have airlines which cannot lower their air faires because they hedged the oil price on higher levels.

...

Yikes, that's enough shit! I think next year no tourists will come to Thailand any more...

I should close down Livingstone's, use it as my private residence, get up in the morning sitting at the swimming pool, having breakfast prepared by my private chefs and cooks, later then the first Campari Orange, the sun is shining ... and all the Sports Lounge girls are only for me!

Life is really bad, isn't it :) ???


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]I should close down Livingstone's, use it as my private residence, get up in the morning sitting at the swimming pool, having breakfast prepared by my private chefs and cooks, later then the first Campari Orange, the sun is shining ... and all the Sports Lounge girls are only for me![/QUOTE]
Can friends still come and visit once in awhile? (and, [i]sorry,[/i] if you close, one of those SL girls is mine!)

And all the Sports Lounge girls are only for me!

Please put me on your friends list, I will come for sure Nov 15.

[QUOTE=Giotto]At the moment life is not easy. The actual situation:

- We have a political crisis in Thailand, no end in sight.

- We have a border conflict with Cambodia, some soldiers died.

- We have a financial crisis and a stock market crash, nobody knows where Mature Man is (who can fix it) but Karl Marx is already dead.

- We have airlines which cannot lower their air faires because they hedged the oil price on higher levels.

...

Yikes, that's enough shit! I think next year no tourists will come to Thailand any more...

I should close down Livingstone's, use it as my private residence, get up in the morning sitting at the swimming pool, having breakfast prepared by my private chefs and cooks, later then the first Campari Orange, the sun is shining ... and all the Sports Lounge girls are only for me!

Life is really bad, isn't it :) ???

Giotto[/QUOTE]
I'll be back! :) and I'm bigger than Arnie! ;)
Well, taller than Arnie anyway.

You actually drink that Campari crap?
I thought it was like disinfectant.
Actually I haven't tried it recently.
Perhaps in my old age it will taste better.

I'll return for my second visit sometime in late March/early April. Don't drink all the good cognac. This time, I'm gonna try the ladies at the Sports Bar.
GE

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I'll be back! :) and I'm bigger than Arnie! ;)
Well, taller than Arnie anyway.

You actually drink that Campari crap?
I thought it was like disinfectant.
Actually I haven't tried it recently.
Perhaps in my old age it will taste better.[/QUOTE]Before you drink Campari, you'd better check where the red colour comes from, and what E120 is. I'll never touch it again.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal[/url]

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Before you drink Campari, you'd better check where the red colour comes from, and what E120 is. I'll never touch it again.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal[/url][/QUOTE]
In a land where eating insects is a great pastime, it looks fine to me. You are just squeamish. :)

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Before you drink Campari, you'd better check where the red colour comes from, and what E120 is.[/QUOTE]
Can't be any worse than the red dye ([i]formally used[/i]) in the cherries they put on top of the ice cream at LL, can it? Of course, if these cherries are from China, all bets are off the table!

[QUOTE=Duniawala]In a land where eating insects is a great pastime...[/QUOTE]Not to me.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]In a land where eating insects is a great pastime, it looks fine to me. You are just squeamish. :)[/QUOTE]
Once a girl in the sports bar asked me to open my mouth and popped in a salted crispy grub (silkworm maybe?).
Wasn't exactly appealing, so I went for my drink quickly.
But I would rather it than the deep fried grasshopers (I think).

Its common to see Thai girls eating a packet of seed, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you can guarantee its fresh. Long stored seed is prone to pick up a mold/mildew (not noticable) which caused whole towns in China to have a very high rate of deadly liver cancer. My GF's mother died of liver cancer so GF was banned from eating bird-seed.

In the end I think I would prefer Campari as long as its mixed with something tasty. Since I drink Gin & Tonic, a "Jasmine" cocktail with Campari, Gin, Triple sec sounds O.K. or perhaps I could get Giotto drunk on "Mambo 5"s. I don't think I have seen him really drunk yet. What is he like?
"Mambo 5" Ingredients:
1 Shot Vodka
0.5 Shot Triple Sec
0.25 Shot Campari
1 Shot Apricot Brandy
5 Shots Orange Juice

I think I will arrive 29 Oct. Silly to miss the pool party

Idle speculation, but I was thinking what happens if I show up to LL at midnight (from late flight) and my choice Miss Gail-Force is already BFed, or about to be, by somebody else. :(
She probably doesn't like to do LT due to her studies.

Worse still, she might have already decided to accept some new boyfriend trying to steal her away. :mad:

Perhaps I shouldn't worry as it will be mid-week and we have an economic crisis? :)

And I suppose their are some other hot backup girls. :D

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Idle speculation, but I was thinking what happens if I show up to LL at midnight (from late flight) and my choice Miss Gail-Force is already BFed, or about to be, by somebody else. :(
She probably doesn't like to do LT due to her studies.

Worse still, she might have already decided to accept some new boyfriend trying to steal her away. :mad:

Perhaps I shouldn't worry as it will be mid-week and we have an economic crisis? :)

And I suppose their are some other hot backup girls. :D[/QUOTE]
Idle response. I guess you could take Miss Rosy Palms to bed with you. :D

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Idle response. I guess you could take Miss Rosy Palms to bed with you. :D[/QUOTE]
ROFLMAO. You got me there, but would be a terrible thing if had fallback on Mrs Palmer in LOS of all places. ;)
What a waste.

"Chuck Wow" officially means "fly a kite" but its a well known Thai euphemism (just in case some readers haven't heard it yet).

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]"Chuck Wow" officially means "fly a kite" but its a well known Thai euphemism (just in case some readers haven't heard it yet).[/QUOTE]

Thought it was more like "Jack Wow" ... shows you how sad my pronunciation is... :D

What's even sadder is that this is part of my limited thai vocab :(

Giotto/Other senior members: I need some advice. Some friends and I are planning to come to Bangkok. Some of the group members will be traveling with the gf/wives. However we will have a "boys" night out.

Now we are not looking for full sex with the ladies but more American style lap dances and strippers.

Any recommendation for a good strip club??

I've never been to Bangkok but Im getting the impression that finding a hooker is easier than a stripper!

Giotto/Other senior members: Need some advice. First time we are coming to Bangkok. Some of the group will be traveling with their partners however we do plan a boys night out.

We are not looking for full sex with the ladies but more american style strip clubs and lap dances.

I've never been to Bangkok but im getting the impression that getting a hooker is easier than a stripper.

Any advice for a clean strip club with good lap dances?

Any recommendations for a place which gives good lap dances

[QUOTE=Kimi1]Any recommendations for a place which gives good lap dances[/QUOTE]

THE STRIP, on PAtpong 2 is the only place that does lap dances.
If not, you could go to just any bar, have a girl sit on your lap, buy her drinks a fondle away.

The Strip web info: [url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_gogo.php?id=R020717[/url]

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Thought it was more like "Jack Wow" ... shows you how sad my pronunciation is... :D

What's even sadder is that this is part of my limited thai vocab :([/QUOTE]
O.K. "Chuck Wow" in Thai or "Jack-off" in American or "Wank" in Aussie.
Everyone learns the bad words first ;)
Although every one knows that "Fuck Thong" means pumpkin, no? And this is not a bad word at all.
Did you know about "fuck soup" too?

[QUOTE=Kimi1]Giotto/Other senior members: Need some advice. First time we are coming to Bangkok. Some of the group will be traveling with their partners however we do plan a boys night out.

We are not looking for full sex with the ladies but more american style strip clubs and lap dances.

I've never been to Bangkok but im getting the impression that getting a hooker is easier than a stripper.

Any advice for a clean strip club with good lap dances?[/QUOTE]
Suzi Wong in Soi Cowboy has a good very "clean" lesbian show, would that appeal? Also has oil show, sexy show, artistic body painting show.
The girls are very scrupulous in cleaning before allowing other girls to lick them out. ;)
There is full nudity by half of the dancing girls (mostly shaven).
They would be more than happy to give you a lap dance I reckon for a nice tip, say 500 Baht or maybe less, with touching allowed.

Beware though, once they get you horny, you might have trouble resisting sneaking off to a room.

[QUOTE=Kimi1]Giotto/Other senior members: Need some advice. First time we are coming to Bangkok. Some of the group will be traveling with their partners however we do plan a boys night out.

We are not looking for full sex with the ladies but more american style strip clubs and lap dances.

I've never been to Bangkok but im getting the impression that getting a hooker is easier than a stripper.

Any advice for a clean strip club with good lap dances?[/QUOTE]Kimi1,

No idea about an American style lap dance bar here in Thailand...

I would also recommend the Gogo bars, which offer shows, then you should have everything you need.

- Angel Witch in Soi Nana
- Suzie Wong in Soi Cowboy
- Long Gun in Soi Cowboy

Hope to see you for a beer :) !


Giotto

A good laugh in the Sports Lounge last night, pretty busy, ended up a wee bit drunk and losing every game of pool. Forgot to look out for Mick's left handed, right eye aiming, pool playing lady. Will try to remember tonight. Some very hot ladies working as previously reported by others.

Note to guests who don't bring a laptop to post reports.
If you use the hotel's PC, don't forget to lather up with mosquito repellant before sitting down.
Giotto - do you breed the bestards? I've been bitten at least five times and killed three in the act of drawing my blood whilst sitting here. I must have missed my elbows / upper arms with the bug juice.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]A good laugh in the Sports Lounge last night, pretty busy, ended up a wee bit drunk and losing every game of pool. Forgot to look out for Mick's left handed, right eye aiming, pool playing lady. [/QUOTE]
No, no, Miss Sweety Chinese was Right handed Left eye aiming I think.

Re Mossies, I would ask Miss Full of Charm if O.K. to set the fan directly at me to blow the little buggers away. They don't seem comfortable in a strong breeze.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]THE STRIP, on PAtpong 2 is the only place that does lap dances.
If not, you could go to just any bar, have a girl sit on your lap, buy her drinks a fondle away.

The Strip web info: [url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_gogo.php?id=R020717[/url][/QUOTE]
Can you tell us a bit more. Worthwhile or not? Wayward?
Reply in BKK thread or PM if you prefer.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I think I will arrive 29 Oct. Silly to miss the pool party[/QUOTE]

Shouldn't the pool party be tonight? being the last Saturday in October. Will drop by regardless, to see what's new and say hello to Mr.G., and get an intro if any ISG member is around.

Have been staying off the forum the past 2 weeks, as the missus is in town.

Mick: How long are you staying in town?

fly

[quote=mick licker]girls at the lodge don'y have any handles like forum members, so i have decided to invent my own handles for them in the future.

e.g.
mrs giotto (that's well accepted)
miss t-rex
miss slippery-peel

miss sexy-taxi
miss panther (couldn't use wildcat due to piper1's wife)
miss forbidden-fruit
miss maestro
miss gail-force
miss sweety
miss shadey
miss ringer-ding
miss full-of-charm
etc.

so for example, i could say what out for that pool shark miss sweety, or miss forbidden fruit is waiting for nicfrenchy's return and ready to tempt. ;)
see miss panther in a g-string by the pool. what perfect glutes.
i can't stop looking at miss gail-force's luscious lips.
i have a soft spot for miss full-of-charm.

those who know the girls will be able to guess quite easily i reckon.[/quote]

too difficult, mick. i can only figure out 2 or 3. i need to go there more often i think.

[QUOTE=Flyhere]Too difficult, Mick. I can only figure out 2 or 3. I need to go there more often I think.[/QUOTE]

Same Here, I think I have 3 out of the lot (not including Miss Giotto of course).

[QUOTE=Flyhere]Shouldn't the pool party be tonight? ...
[/QUOTE]Flyhere,

Correct, tonight is Swimming Pool Party - hopefully it will not rain :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Flyhere]Too difficult, Mick. I can only figure out 2 or 3. I need to go there more often I think.[/QUOTE]
Well thats good. The purpose was not to be too obvious.
A couple of names were related to meaning of a Thai name so I should change those as you guys are not Thai.
Some are incredibly easy for those that do cryptic crosswords.
i.e. "Sounds like ..." or opposites.

Some one has PMed me about Miss New-One.

Next Friday and Saturday LL is completely booked out.

What with low season, mosquitos, the stock market, political unrest, impending recession, etc., you would expect the lodge to just a little quiet.

I am going to have to start generating some negative publicity concerning the swimming pool on the upper floor I think ;)

This place is just getting too popular! :(

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Next Friday and Saturday LL is completely booked out.

What with low season, mosquitos, the stock market, political unrest, impending recession, etc., you would expect the lodge to just a little quiet.

I am going to have to start generating some negative publicity concerning the swimming pool on the upper floor I think ;)

This place is just getting too popular! :([/QUOTE]
Well, I think that is absolutely fantastic. Congratulations Giotto. Now where are we regulars supposed to stay?

Only negative I can think of is that pesky tuk tuk driver at LL. He is never at the end of the soi when I need him. and the drive to the airport early morning is very slow in the tuk tuk.
;)

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Next Friday and Saturday LL is completely booked out.

What with low season, mosquitos, the stock market, political unrest, impending recession, etc., you would expect the lodge to just a little quiet.

I am going to have to start generating some negative publicity concerning the swimming pool on the upper floor I think ;)

This place is just getting too popular! :([/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

BESTARD :) ! Don't tell anybody about our swimming pool upstairs, please ...

It's correct, we are fully booked next weekend, but only for 2 days. There is this anual event (Bangkok Icehockey Tournament), and the organisators booked rooms for one team. They wanted more rooms, but we still left some for our regulars - and more regulars than expected booked already.

This is definitely the exception and not the rule, so no need to worry. But it would help if we knew about people coming in a bit earlier than the months before ...

We are working on a solution for you, will let you know shortly.


Giotto

[QUOTE=1Ball]Well, I think that is absolutely fantastic. Congratulations Giotto. Now where are we regulars supposed to stay?
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Thanks!

I know where you can stay - downstairs, basement, DUNGEON :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

Thanks!

I know where you can stay - downstairs, basement, DUNGEON :) !
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Mmmmm, I am confused, I thought that suite was reserved for the exclusive use of the TQM, and the Marketing Director.

[quote=mick licker]well thats good. the purpose was not to be too obvious.
a couple of names were related to meaning of a thai name so i should change those as you guys are not thai.
some are incredibly easy for those that do cryptic crosswords.
i.e. "sounds like ..." or opposites.

some one has pmed me about miss new-one.[/quote]

so i had to drop by ll to look into this, the inquiring mind wants to know. i still think you're making it more cryptic than necessary. i'm sure the girls were wondering what's with the 20 questions.

ok, i figured out miss t-rex and miss slippery-peel. i just happened to know the thai word. miss forbidden-fruit is easy although you can probably come up with a shorter nickname like fuji. it took a while to find out about miss sweety as she was not in, and it's good nickname too, although i would call her miss taiwan (chinese looking too? double meaning).

so i bought drinks for miss t-rex, miss fuji, miss gail-force, and miss new-one (very clever nickname). there was a very pretty miss t, not sure if it's your miss sexy or not. then there was a miss n who was good at playing pool, somewhat chinese looking, and a smallish miss b as in beauty and the beast.

fly

[quote=flyhere]so i had to drop by ll to look into this, the inquiring mind wants to know. i still think you're making it more cryptic than necessary. i'm sure the girls were wondering what's with the 20 questions.

ok, i figured out miss t-rex and miss slippery-peel. i just happened to know the thai word. miss forbidden-fruit is easy although you can probably come up with a shorter nickname like fuji. it took a while to find out about miss sweety as she was not in, and it's good nickname too, although i would call her miss taiwan (chinese looking too? double meaning).

so i bought drinks for miss t-rex, miss fuji, miss gail-force, and miss new-one (very clever nickname). there was a very pretty miss t, not sure if it's your miss sexy or not. then there was a miss n who was good at playing pool, somewhat chinese looking, and a smallish miss b as in beauty and the beast.

fly[/quote]
fyhere,

i envy you guys who can show up for the pool party, regularly.
20 questions? you only need ask what is their name and what does it mean (if its a thai name)?

thanks for the help. miss sweety is now miss taiwan (cleverer than mine). but maybe pink-lady sounds better than fuji. multiple names is o.k. too.

i am glad to hear miss gail-force is still there.

smallish miss b was probably my ringer-ding.
so maybe just miss beauty will do.

not sure who miss n, good at pool, is, assuming its not miss new-one. n is too common in thailand and i can't remember every name.

miss taxi is indeed very sexy, probably good english, and usually gets the young spunks easily. maybe miss taxing is better.

miss panther also looks very sexy indeed. could be called miss siamese would be better.

you haven't mentioned your miss shadey any more so i assume you have moved on.

here is a funny nick-name (not related to ll): i once met a thai girl who was known as "pud-dern" by her friends. i asked what it was. turns out was "poodle" mis-pronounced. but she didn't look like a poodle at all. turns out she was a loud one and her high pitched shriek sounded ear-splitting like a poodle barking.

[quote=giotto]mick licker,

bestard :) ! don't tell anybody about our swimming pool upstairs, please ...

it's correct, we are fully booked next weekend, but only for 2 days. there is this anual event (bangkok icehockey tournament), and the organisators booked rooms for one team. they wanted more rooms, but we still left some for our regulars - and more regulars than expected booked already.

this is definitely the exception and not the rule, so no need to worry. but it would help if we knew about people coming in a bit earlier than the months before ...

we are working on a solution for you, will let you know shortly.


giotto[/quote]
i wasn't thinking of the dungeon, myself. but no big deal. maybe i should go to pattaya for a couple of days to see why opebo thinks its so great. what are the peep-inn rooms like?
perhaps novotel would be better.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I envy you guys who can show up for the pool party, regularly.[/QUOTE]
It rained a little last night. I dropped by for a few drinks but did not stay for the pool party. Was thinking of dinner at LL but ended up not staying for that either, couldn't decide who to ask to be my dinner companion.

[quote=mick licker]i wasn't thinking of the dungeon, myself. but no big deal. maybe i should go to pattaya for a couple of days to see why opebo thinks its so great. what are the peep-inn rooms like?
perhaps novotel would be better.[/quote]
i went to pattaya last weekend, but took it easy at the royal cliff grand, and didn't partake in any activities downtown, so nothing to report, except that it was bars and bars and bars and girls galore. picture a huge open-air market except it's bars and pool tables and girls.

[QUOTE=Giotto]...It's correct, we are fully booked next weekend, but only for 2 days. There is this anual event (Bangkok Icehockey Tournament), and the organisators booked rooms for one team. They wanted more rooms, but we still left some for our regulars - and more regulars than expected booked already...[/QUOTE]
Oh man, so next weekend the Sports Bar is going to be full of icehockey players!

[QUOTE=Flyhere]It rained a little last night. I dropped by for a few drinks but did not stay for the pool party. Was thinking of dinner at LL but ended up not staying for that either, couldn't decide who to ask to be my dinner companion.[/QUOTE]
Yes you can't take them ALL to dinner. Sorry I wasn't there to help out. But I'll catch you very soon.

What was the purpose of your trip to Pattaya? Business, or looking at the sea? I don't go there mainly because other places are far more beautiful although harder to get to.
If I went to pattaya would be purely to check out if the girls are up to BKK standard.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...What was the purpose of your trip to Pattaya? Business, or looking at the sea? I don't go there mainly because other places are far more beautiful although harder to get to.
If I went to pattaya would be purely to check out if the girls are up to BKK standard.[/QUOTE]
I was pressed to do a quick weekend get-away with the missus, and not wanting to fly to Phuket or Goh Samui, so it was Hua Hin or Pattaya. We ended up just chilling out on the hotel private beach, and also went to the LB cabaret show.

I ate at an outdoor food court after the show, on the main stretch, many of the working girls in their bar uniform came in for a quick plate of rice. My impression is that they are not as hot as those in BKK. Also many many older farangs walking around with young Thai GF's, again I would say the ladies aren't up to Bkk standard.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Maybe I should go to Pattaya for a couple of days to see why Opebo thinks its so great.[/QUOTE]
Mick
I planned on two nights in Pattaya last week but could only stick it for the one. Too, too busy for me.

Guys outside every tailor's shop grabbing you, Walking Street absolutely heaving (couldn't walk more than 5m in a straight line without dodging round somebody, too many LBs, every bar booming out different music and crap hotel (my fault). The bar girls looked as good as in BKK to me, the go-go's I went in were same same as Soi Cowboy and there is definitely more action concentrated into a smaller area.

All the above is my opinion only. You'd probably have a ball for a couple of days in such a target rich environment.

ok, question: When someone rings the bell in the Sports Bar, who determines what the girls will drink?

A simple question but the girls certainly didn't know the answer. A customer rang the bell last Saturday, and the shots came, but some of the girls didn't like tequila. The 3 girls with me at the time, Miss A, Miss G, and Miss N, all claimed upset stomach after downing the tequila shots, and a few shots went unclaimed.

One girl said it had to be tequila, one said it was the customer's call. It was also tequila the previous time I was there and FiftyFifty rang the bell. Again, the inquiring mind wants to know.

fly

PS. I had a hard time trying to explain the agave worm in the tequila bottle to the girls.

[QUOTE=Flyhere]ok, question: When someone rings the bell in the Sports Bar, who determines what the girls will drink?
...
[/QUOTE]Flyhere,

answer: The rule is as follows: Only the girls who are in the bar at the moment of ringing the bell get a drink.

The real life: When somebody rings the bell girls from all over the world rush into the bar!

We try to get that under control, but - we never will :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Flyhere]A customer rang the bell last Saturday, and the shots came, but some of the girls didn't like tequila.[/QUOTE]
Hey Flyhere - where were you sitting? I was there as well when the bell was rung.

I saw the tray with the drinks when it was delivered and there must have been 24 or so shots on it. I asked the girl I was with who gets a drink and how much it cost and she replied "all the ladies and bar staff" and "oh, could be 10,000B". I swore. She also told me one guy rang the bell three times on Tuesday(?) night!

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Mick
I planned on two nights in Pattaya last week but could only stick it for the one. Too, too busy for me.

Guys outside every tailor's shop grabbing you, Walking Street absolutely heaving (couldn't walk more than 5m in a straight line without dodging round somebody, too many LBs, every bar booming out different music and crap hotel (my fault). The bar girls looked as good as in BKK to me, the go-go's I went in were same same as Soi Cowboy and there is definitely more action concentrated into a smaller area.

All the above is my opinion only. You'd probably have a ball for a couple of days in such a target rich environment.[/QUOTE]

If you are a tourist, Pattaya is basically cheaper and better than Bangkok. Literally. There is more of everything at the same/better quality and it's all much more easily accesssible.

Sonic Bam's quoted description of Patts might as well be of any of the highly-populated areas of Sukhumvit Bangkok. And Patpong Bangkok is on a different harrassment level altogether.

Pattaya also has much better weather.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Hey Flyhere - where were you sitting? I was there as well when the bell was rung.

I saw the tray with the drinks when it was delivered and there must have been 24 or so shots on it. I asked the girl I was with who gets a drink and how much it cost and she replied "all the ladies and bar staff" and "oh, could be 10,000B". I swore. She also told me one guy rang the bell three times on Tuesday(?) night![/QUOTE]
Hmm...How can I describe where...stepping into the bar, past the first row of tables, on the right second row, before you get to the pool table.

Are you still in town? how long for?

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]...
I saw the tray with the drinks when it was delivered and there must have been 24 or so shots on it. I asked the girl I was with who gets a drink and how much it cost and she replied "all the ladies and bar staff" and "oh, could be 10,000B". I swore. She also told me one guy rang the bell three times on Tuesday(?) night![/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,

Sadly (for our business) the girl talked nonsense. To ring the bell never costs THB 10,000.00 or even something close to that...

Rule is: Only the girls staying in the bar in the moment the bell is rang get a drink. And - the bar staff does NOT get a drink.

Now there are exceptions when the customer WANTS the bar staff and all girls to have a drink with him, because eg. he is leaving and want to buy a drink for all the staff and all girls. Something like that happens.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]If you are a tourist, Pattaya is basically cheaper and better than Bangkok. Literally.
...
[/QUOTE]TT,

Cheaper - agreed. But what is better in Pattaya?


Giotto

I am in the midst of a two week vacation and have completed about a third of my stay at Livingston's Lodge and thought I would share my impressions. Let me preface my remarks by stating these comments are neither a paid advertisement (unless you count that posting ones impressions was one of the conditions for the ISG discount). Nor were these comments solicited or made under duress of any kind (I was not threatened to be banned from the Sports Bar). Finally, I am making these comments completely sober (as it is too early to began drinking).

I am making these comments a little early in hopes that Giotto will continue to provide some passing financial advice and also when I return to my lovely vacation spot I will be inundated with a number of pressing issues and I wanted to make sure I do not forget to make the post.

I have divided this report into three sections: Description of the lodge, the Thai pearls who work in the lodge, and of course, the best asset at the lodge, the mother pearl.

The Lodge: Previous posts have described the lodge appropriately as being an oasis in the bustling city. That is indeed a fine description although I would also describe it as a Nirvana for those seeking a relaxing vacation and looking for the ultimate in a GFE. It is nestled about 50 meters off the road so you have complete privacy and are insulated from traffic noise (although there is major construction taking place across the way which serves as an early morning alarm clock).

The lodge itself is wonderful consisting of some 27 rooms. It is small enough so that the staff quickly comes to know you and they provide a level of personal service and comfort that you would never find in a five star hotel.

The rooms are clean and spacious. As nice a room you would find at the Conrad, Sheraton, or Marriott. Indeed, the rooms at the lodge offer virtually all of the same amenities as the aforementioned hotels albeit without the decadent ambiance (which of course you end up paying for). With the prices at the lodge being some 40- 70 percent less than the other hotels it is a perfect place. Finally, the restaurant is outstanding with, as proclaimed by the manager Guido, the steaks being some of the best you can find anywhere.

The Pearls: The most stunning amenity at the lodge are the girls. I do not think you could find such a group wonderful, vivacious, sweet girls. Everyone I spoke to was a gem. Polite, funny, and very very friendly. Being on a deployment that has made any kind of interaction with members of the opposite sex non-existent (believe me many of those whose ID tags identify themselves as females would hardly qualify from any objective measurement), I thought one of those IED's must have hit closer than I thought and I had died and gone to heaven (yes, I know it is a cliche).

I will note, that my goal in coming here was not to necessarily engage in bouts of decadent sex. Rather, I wanted the intimacy provided by female companionship and all that it entails. In that respect, I truly felt I was living in a dream. Without exception every interaction I have had with the girls has been the ultimate fulfillment of what I had hoped for. I will not go into detail of each experience but suffice it to say that without exception each girl exceeded my expectations and desires.

In reading the thread some may find the bar fines a little bit higher than what you can find at the bars. 1500 Baht for an early take-out with a declining price structure as the evening wears on. On this point I will offer two observations. First, by any measure the prices are far less than what you would find in virtually any other place in the world.

Second, having visited the bars in Soi Cowboy and NEP, I believe the quality of the girls is far superior than what you will find in those other places. The best analogy I can think of is that at the lodge they offer a variety of steaks and you can chose to have it from local beef or imported Argentine beef. Of course the Argentine cut will be more expensive because it is of much higher quality. In this respect the girls are the finest.

However, notwithstanding the great rooms and extraordinary girls, the most extraordinary asset is Som (Giotto's wife). I can say without hesitation that she has personally ensured that my time here has been exceptional.

At the risk of derision, I will share one story that illustrates what I mean. My first night at the lodge (after some 30 hours of travel time) I entered the sports bar and one of the mamasans introduced me two of the wonderful girls. I was enamored with both of them. As the evening wore on I was asked if I wanted to bar fine either of them. Not being able to make up my mind I decided to bar fine both of them (bearing in mind that after the long travel I had no expectation of any performance but I wanted the company. As the girls continued to play pool I noticed they had a friend and I decided to go ahead and bar fine her so as not to leave her alone. I was told that she was not one of the girls at the lodge but it was suggested that I bar fine another girl who was relatively new and had not yet been bar fined (a very very sweet girl but unfortunately she has yet to learn English which made intimacy more difficult).

To make a long story short I found myself going out with 4 very sweet and wonderful girls and started to panic. I knew there was no way I could be with 4 girls (bed is large but not that large and I was exhausted and running strictly on adrenaline). But I was worried about insulting any of the girls and had heard about the concept of losing face. Fortunately, the un-barfined girl met a friend at the bar in which we are eating and decided to stay with her. By the way if I have one suggestion it is that NEVER, EVER, ask four Thai girls what they want to do. You will get five suggestions). So I returned to the lodge with the three girls and as they ate again (one would think that such small girls could not pack away the food, but they can), I went to search out the mamasan for advice.

It was at this point I was introduced to Giotto's wife. I explained to her my situation, I sensed she wanted to laugh (when I got to finally meet Giotto and told him of the situation I knew he was having trouble from shaking his head in amusement and rolling his eyes). Anyway, she quickly allayed my concerns and provided excellent advice on how to handle the situation and assisted me in resolving my dilemma (not to keep you in suspense I tipped two girls but went to sleep with one).

I suspect my antics raised a modicum of concern with Giotto and Som because I was ordered to report the following morning for a briefing. Som and I chatted for some time and she made a number of recommendations on how I should proceed (undoubtedly understanding I was not looking to get married but would probably end up marrying one of the girls if I was not careful).

She also provided me some critical G2 about the girls that I was interested in to ensure I received the ultimate GFE.

There is so much more to say but this post is already too long. Hopefully, I will have a chance to provide a follow on posting.

I understand that people come here for varying reasons and desires. However
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to stay anywhere else. Even if your proclivities lead you to seek a different experience you are only minutes away from Soi Cowboy and just a bit further to NEP.

I will close with two final remarks. First, contrary to what I have read on the thread I have two confirm sightings of seeing Giotto somewhere other that at his desk and on his computer.

Second, one of my most frightening experiences was going to a Ladyboy bar with a couple of the girls. I know they say there are ways to tell (ie Adams Apple) but I was scared. That experience solidified my decision to stay with girls from the bar. Although I do enjoy telling the girls that in terms of beauty the Ladyboys are number one and Livingston girls are number two (far far of more higher quality than what I saw at the myriad of go-go bars the girls took me to).

So far a truly remarkable experience.

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[QUOTE=Flyhere]Hmm...How can I describe where...stepping into the bar, past the first row of tables, on the right second row, before you get to the pool table.

Are you still in town? how long for?[/QUOTE]

I remember people sitting there - one guy, three ladies - but not the faces, sorry. Back home now, very cold, very wet and a backlog of work. Hey ho. Roll on the new year and another visit.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Sonic Bam,

Sadly (for our business) the girl talked nonsense. To ring the bell never costs THB 10,000.00 or even something close to that...[/QUOTE]

Okay, I've done the math and 10,000B is a ridiculous number of lady drinks, my apologies. I was sceptical when she told me 10,000B and I asked her three times, I should have checked the number before posting it.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Sonic Bam,

Sadly (for our business) the girl talked nonsense. To ring the bell never costs THB 10,000.00 or even something close to that...

Rule is: Only the girls staying in the bar in the moment the bell is rang get a drink. And - the bar staff does NOT get a drink.

Now there are exceptions when the customer WANTS the bar staff and all girls to have a drink with him, because eg. he is leaving and want to buy a drink for all the staff and all girls. Something like that happens.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Just to add - Recently when my girl ''rang the bell', assisted by me as she was too short to reach :) (yep - I like em small)

I was not actually counting how many girls were in the Bar at the exact time. However the tray that arrived shortly afterwards contained 18 shots of Tequila; which were carefully doled out under control of the mamasan. I also noted that 3 of the girls appeared to decline their share.

It was left to me as to how the 3 spare shots were dealt with, and not being on the 'hard stuff' at that time, I invited some of the girls to partake of a repeat; which they eagerly did.

Furthermore, as the drinks had only been brought for the 'girls' in the bar and none of the staff, my benevolence got the better of me and I instructed the waitress to get all the bar staff a drink too.

(Actually it was Pool Party Night and some of the bar boys were done up as ladies anyway - basically confusing us as to actually who were the 'girls' in the bar ???)

I was not asked which drinks I wished to buy for the girls, I assume it is Tequila shots every time? Also I was not pressurised at any time and the 'damage' was nowhere near 5000, let alone the figure previously quoted.

Cheers, FF

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Just to add - Recently when my girl ''rang the bell', assisted by me as she was too short to reach :) (yep - I like em small)
....[/QUOTE]
Tall guys should watch out. You could nearly ring the bell accidentally by waving to someone while entering the bar.
However I learned to duck many times on my first trip to Thailand (very sore head). :D

Its important to know staff are allowed to get commission on some drinks. I allow the staff to choose themselves either a commission drink or one of their own taste. Obviusly not all can drink Tequila as at least one occasion I rang the bell for entire Hotel staff. Waitresses would not be allowed.

Some bars have quotas and girls can be penalised if not enough lady drinks for the month. This may not apply at Livingstone's (I have no knowledge) but generally at bars there must be rules to encourage the sales of drinks in a bar or the staff will just get lazy.

People must also realise that a high percentage of Asians are allergic to alcohol and of the remainder who are not used it, many can get partially drunk on a single alcoholic drink.

I am in the midst of a two week vacation and have completed about a third of my stay at Livingston's Lodge and thought I would share my initial impressions. Let me preface my remarks by stating these comments are neither a paid advertisement (unless you count that posting ones impressions was one of the conditions for the ISG discount). Nor were these comments solicited or made under duress of any kind (I was not threatened to be banned from the Sports Bar). Finally, I am making these comments completely sober (as it is too early to began drinking).

I am making these comments a little early in hopes that Giotto will continue to provide some passing financial advice and also when I return to my lovely vacation spot I will be inundated with a number of pressing issues and I wanted to make sure I do not forget to make the post.

I have divided this report into three sections: Description of the lodge, the Thai pearls who work in the lodge, and of course, the best asset at the lodge, the mother pearl.

The Lodge: Previous posts have described the lodge appropriately as being an oasis in the bustling city. That is indeed a fine description although I would also describe it as a Nirvana for those seeking a relaxing vacation and looking for the ultimate in a GFE. It is nestled about 50 meters off the road so you have complete privacy and are insulated from traffic noise (although there is major construction taking place across the way which serves as an early morning alarm clock).

The lodge itself is wonderful consisting of some 27 rooms. It is small enough so that the staff quickly comes to know you and they provide a level of personal service and comfort that you would never find in a five star hotel.

The rooms are clean and spacious. As nice a room you would find at the Conrad, Sheraton, or Marriott. Indeed, the rooms at the lodge offer virtually all of the same amenities as the aforementioned hotels albeit without the decadent ambiance (which of course you end up paying for). With the prices at the lodge being some 40- 70 percent less than the other hotels it is a perfect place. Finally, the restaurant is outstanding with, as proclaimed by the manager Guido, the steaks being some of the best you can find anywhere.

The Pearls: The most stunning amenity at the lodge are the girls. I do not think you could find such a group wonderful, vivacious, sweet girls. Everyone I spoke to was a gem. Polite, funny, and very very friendly. Being on a deployment that has made any kind of interaction with members of the opposite sex non-existent (believe me many of those whose ID tags identify themselves as females would hardly qualify from any objective measurement), I thought one of those IED's must have hit closer than I thought and I had died and gone to heaven (yes, I know it is a cliche).

I will note, that my goal in coming here was not to necessarily engage in bouts of decadent sex. Rather, I wanted the intimacy provided by female companionship and all that it entails. In that respect, I truly felt I was living in a dream. Without exception every interaction I have had with the girls has been the ultimate fulfillment of what I had hoped for. I will not go into detail of each experience but suffice it to say that without exception each girl exceeded my expectations and desires.

In reading the thread some may find the bar fines a little bit higher than what you can find at the bars. 1500 Baht for an early take-out with a declining price structure as the evening wears on. On this point I will offer two observations. First, by any measure the prices are far less than what you would find in virtually any other place in the world.

Second, having visited the bars in Soi Cowboy and NEP, I believe the quality of the girls is far superior than what you will find in those other places. The best analogy I can think of is that at the lodge they offer a variety of steaks and you can chose to have it from local beef or imported Argentine beef. Of course the Argentine cut will be more expensive because it is of much higher quality. In this respect the girls are the finest.

However, notwithstanding the great rooms and extraordinary girls, the most extraordinary asset is Som (Giotto's wife). I can say without hesitation that she has personally ensured that my time here has been exceptional.

At the risk of derision, I will share one story that illustrates what I mean. My first night at the lodge (after some 30 hours of travel time) I entered the sports bar and one of the mamasans introduced me two of the wonderful girls. I was enamored with both of them. As the evening wore on I was asked if I wanted to bar fine either of them. Not being able to make up my mind I decided to bar fine both of them (bearing in mind that after the long travel I had no expectation of any performance but I wanted the company. As the girls continued to play pool I noticed they had a friend and I decided to go ahead and bar fine her so as not to leave her alone. I was told that she was not one of the girls at the lodge but it was suggested that I bar fine another girl who was relatively new and had not yet been bar fined (a very very sweet girl but unfortunately she has yet to learn English which made intimacy more difficult).

To make a long story short I found myself going out with 4 very sweet and wonderful girls and started to panic. I knew there was no way I could be with 4 girls (bed is large but not that large and I was exhausted and running strictly on adrenaline). But I was worried about insulting any of the girls and had heard about the concept of losing face. Fortunately, the un-barfined girl met a friend at the bar in which we are eating and decided to stay with her. By the way if I have one suggestion it is that NEVER, EVER, ask four Thai girls what they want to do. You will get five suggestions). So I returned to the lodge with the three girls and as they ate again (one would think that such small girls could not pack away the food, but they can), I went to search out the mamasan for advice.

It was at this point I was introduced to Giotto's wife. I explained to her my situation, I sensed she wanted to laugh (when I got to finally meet Giotto and told him of the situation I knew he was having trouble from shaking his head in amusement and rolling his eyes). Anyway, she quickly allayed my concerns and provided excellent advice on how to handle the situation and assisted me in resolving my dilemma (not to keep you in suspense I tipped two girls but went to sleep with one).

I suspect my antics raised a modicum of concern with Giotto and Som because I was ordered to report the following morning for a briefing. Som and I chatted for some time and she made a number of recommendations on how I should proceed (undoubtedly understanding I was not looking to get married but would probably end up marrying one of the girls if I was not careful).

She also provided me some critical G2 about the girls that I was interested in to ensure I received the ultimate GFE.

There is so much more to say but this post is already too long. Hopefully, I will have a chance to provide a follow on posting.

I understand that people come here for varying reasons and desires. However
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to stay anywhere else. Even if your proclivities lead you to seek a different experience you are only minutes away from Soi Cowboy and just a bit further to NEP.

I will close with two final remarks. First, contrary to what I have read on the thread I have two confirm sightings of seeing Giotto somewhere other that at his desk and on his computer.

Second, one of my most frightening experiences was going to a Ladyboy bar with a couple of the girls. I know they say there are ways to tell (ie Adams Apple) but I was scared. That experience solidified my decision to stay with girls from the bar. Although I do enjoy telling the girls that in terms of beauty the Ladyboys are number one and Livingston girls are number two (far far of more higher quality than what I saw at the myriad of go-go bars the girls took me to).

So far a truly remarkable experience.

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[QUOTE=Mick Licker].......................................
People must also realise that a high percentage of Asians are allergic to alcohol and of the remainder who are not used it, many can get partially drunk on a single alcoholic drink.[/QUOTE]
IMHO, never heard of this crap. But to be fair, perhaps you can show me some scientific data. I have seen many people world over, with similar problems: white, black, yellow afflicted with the same problem.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]
People must also realise that a high percentage of Asians are allergic to alcohol and of the remainder who are not used it, many can get partially drunk on a single alcoholic drink.[/QUOTE]

Highest per capita consumption of brandy worldwide: HK
One of the highest per capita consumption of beer in the world: Vietnam

Go visit a big box store in HCMC, eg Metro (like Costco or Careforr) - there is literally btw 2-3,000 sq ft of space in the back devoted just for beer.

And I won't comment on my drinking habits before going on the wagon a couple of years ago.

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Just to add - Recently when my girl ''rang the bell', assisted by me as she was too short to reach :) [/QUOTE]
Fifty Fifty
That was you? Sitting in the corner by the table football with a lovely young lady having to watch me getting humped at pool?

That means there was you, me and Flyhere definitely and possibly Ranger775 in the Sports Lounge at the same time on Saturday night.

Missed opportunity to say hello. Maybe next time.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]IMHO, never heard of this crap. But to be fair, perhaps you can show me some scientific data. I have seen many people world over, with similar problems: white, black, yellow afflicted with the same problem.[/QUOTE]
Well some people have a severe reaction to my comments too.
There was no attempt to be racial.

I have checked up on the web briefly and apparently while a fair percentage of Asians have a very unusually high reaction to alcohol in a small dose, those that are officially "allergic" are very few:
[url]http://www.allergy.org.au/aer/infobulletins/Alcohol_Allergy.htm[/url]
But I have certainly met quite a few Asians who seem drunk after just one glass. However this is not exclusive to Asians.

I haven't done a scientific study personally, and of course do not have the experience to compare Asians to other races.

Here is a quote from above web site:
"Some people develop severe facial flushing if they drink small amounts of alcohol. This is not an allergic reaction and is most common in those with an Asian background. Other side effects may also occur, including fluttering of the heart (palpitations), feeling hot, headache, tummy discomfort or a drop in blood pressure are related to high blood acetaldehyde levels."
I live part time with a Thai who has many of the above reactions. The facial flushing can be seen very quickly even with not so pale skin.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Highest per capita consumption of brandy worldwide: HK
One of the highest per capita consumption of beer in the world: Vietnam

Go visit a big box store in HCMC, eg Metro (like Costco or Careforr) - there is literally btw 2-3,000 sq ft of space in the back devoted just for beer.

And I won't comment on my drinking habits before going on the wagon a couple of years ago.[/QUOTE]

I don't dispute that Asians may be amongst the highest consumers of alcohol despite the others ones abstaining.
I personally only drink occasionally and am drunk very few times per year.

The less the alcohol, the better the sex (for me only). Too much alcohol is like an anesthetic for my other head. Two or three is O.K. I envy other guys who can be completely drunk and still perform normally. But working girls say its definitely the norm that guys with too much to drink are not so good in bed.

There's nothing racist about it. It's simply a fact that some races are genetically less tolerant to alcohol than other races, just as some races are genetically more prone to heart disease, etc. South East Asians are on the whole less tolerant to alcohol than other races, and because of metabolic differences will become more drunk on the same amount of alcohol than caucasians.

Of course, individual differences are the exception to this. For example, a tiny 40kg Thai BG drinking every night can probably handle more alcohol due to increased alcohol tolerance, than an 80 kg westerner who only drinks occasionally.

Do a quick google: "Alcohol intolerance" + race, and you will find many scientific articles on the issue of race and alcohol effects.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
Some bars have quotas and girls can be penalised if not enough lady drinks for the month. This may not apply at Livingstone's (I have no knowledge) but generally at bars there must be rules to encourage the sales of drinks in a bar or the staff will just get lazy.
...
[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

Penalised - definitely not here at Livingstone's. That's exactly what I don't want - if we penalise girls which do not "make enough" drinks we will get attempts to rip-off customers, order drinks from which a customer does not know etc. etc. . I am quite sure that it still happens sometimes, but there is no penalization here at Livingstone's.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

Penalised - definitely not here at Livingstone's. That's exactly what I don't want - if we penalise girls which do not "make enough" drinks we will get attempts to rip-off customers, order drinks from which a customer does not know etc. etc. . I am quite sure that it still happens sometimes, but there is no penalization here at Livingstone's.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

It is impossible to control this 100% and same with ladies coming out of change room when they hear the bell being rung or such.

However... for the most part I've seen girls who were already BF'd not partake in drinks when the bell was rung (surprised the heck out of me) and the Sports Bar is a lot better in making sure girls are not ordering drinks without customers knowing it then other bars on 33.

Some of the other "establishments" on 33, and I use that term loosely, are absolutely dangerous when it comes to # of drinks, costs of drinks and who all is drinking on what bill etc...

LL I have no problem with an open check bin, other places on 33 you're best to check and pay after each order or you could find yourself in a sticky situation.

[QUOTE=Ranger775]I am in the midst of a two week vacation and have completed about a third of my stay at Livingston's Lodge and thought I would share my initial impressions.
...
[/QUOTE]Ranger775,

BESTARD :) ! Welcome to the Lodge, and thanks for your report.

It's not much what I can respond. I think you understood the spirit of Livingstone's quite well, you are doing "your thing" at the moment and Som gives you necessary recommendations and feedback whenever you request it.

That's what we want, nothing to add. Enjoy your time at Livingstone's Lodge.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

Penalised - definitely not here at Livingstone's. That's exactly what I don't want - if we penalise girls which do not "make enough" drinks we will get attempts to rip-off customers, order drinks from which a customer does not know etc. etc. . I am quite sure that it still happens sometimes, but there is no penalization here at Livingstone's.


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Its good to know that LL is a bar where girls are treated well.
This means we can feel more relaxed even if girls must follow some rules.

At one bar (not LL) I would order the drink that the lady wanted for me and a lady drink that suited my taste. I would swap drinks with her and drink the lady drink, as I was abstaining from alcohol anyway.
So by drinking lots of lady drinks I would save her significant fines from her end of month salary, but I would have to drink in her place. She couldn't possibly drink them all and preferred a Heineken (non-lady drink). This would cost me very little but would save her a lot of money. So we deviously rorted the unfair system.

So its always worth knowing at a bar, which drinks are allowed to be lady drinks, how much is the lady commission and how much is the fine if her lady drink quota is short on a per drink basis. Unbelievably, sometimes buying a lady drink can actually benefit her more than a direct cash tip once the maths is done.

Fortunately we need not worry at the Sports Bar and just relax and order whatever we please. I wonder if bar will still be open when I arrive around midnight tonight or all closed up?

Actually my flight is delayed 45 mins+ so I can't see myself getting there in time.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
I wonder if bar will still be open when I arrive around midnight tonight or all closed up?

Actually my flight is delayed 45 mins+ so I can't see myself getting there in time.[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

The bar should be open until 1 am ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Ranger775].... Anyway, she quickly allayed my concerns and provided excellent advice on how to handle the situation and assisted me in resolving my dilemma (not to keep you in suspense I tipped two girls but went to sleep with one)...[/QUOTE]
Excellent report, the bit about tipping the girls you were not keeping is useful info for the future, perhaps you can share also how much the tip was, that would be extra useful.

PS. Will try to swing by Thu or Fri night to deliver some photos, and to see who's in.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Well some people have a severe reaction to my comments too.
There was no attempt to be racial.

I live part time with a Thai who has many of the above reactions. The facial flushing can be seen very quickly even with not so pale skin.[/QUOTE]

Mick

For those who know you personally, your comment wasn't taken in a racial manner ;)

On the issue of a flush face, that is true, many Asians get flushed, most times right after the first drink. But a flush face isn't an indication of their tolerance or lack of for alcohol.

As far as general tolerance to alcohol, I will defer to Dr. Piper1 post!

[QUOTE=Flyhere]Excellent report, the bit about tipping the girls you were not keeping is useful info for the future, perhaps you can share also how much the tip was, that would be extra useful.

PS. Will try to swing by Thu or Fri night to deliver some photos, and to see who's in.[/QUOTE]I tipped the other girls the equivalent of the bar fine. That being said, I think it is a more a personal issue between you and how much you think the girl's time is worth. Personally, having been bereft of the companionship of some of the sweetest, nicest girls you can find I was more than happy to be a little generous.

Considering that a car mechanic charges about $40-$60 and hour and he may. Or may not, provide the service desired, if anything I probably under tipped the girls.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

The bar should be open until 1 am ...


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Yes I was lucky. My plane arrived at 23.10. Beat all the others to Imm and was through immediately. Bags had to wait 10 mins. Only 30 mins to LL so was in the bar by 12.15. Grabbed Miss Crystal-Gail quickly in case any of the pesky Ice-Hockey players were taking a liking to her. We need senior members to volunteer to break in the new girls LOL :D
But seriously, I must thank the Hockey players for keeping the bar open late till I got there. :)

Miss New-one was looking hot. Has put on weight where it is really beneficial and so hooked a customer easily. Miss Quacky and Miss Beauty were looking very sexy but I had made my choice already.

Miss T-Rex and a couple of others said they they want me to take them to see the Lesbian Show in SW (Soi Cowboy) tomorrow night, but I promised nothing. How could I do that without bar-fining them all? I don't think theat many can all get a night off work when the bar will be very busy again.
Previously taking Miss J from Sports Bar to see the Lesbian show was how I met super dancer Miss Jar (different Miss J) who has now quit P4P to run a restaurant but remains a regular Gik.

I think ringing the bell is a better and cheaper idea. Besides I don't need too many girls in tow as I have my SW favourites already.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Mick
On the issue of a flush face, that is true, many Asians get flushed, most times right after the first drink. But a flush face isn't an indication of their tolerance or lack of for alcohol.
[/QUOTE]
Well the face flushing is just the first stage. To be fair, Asian girls have such a tiny body compared to me, so that one could not expect them to handle too many drinks well.
Has anyone been to one of the B52's parties here in old times?

Last night I witnessed a strong reaction to too much alcohol but I don't know after how many drinks so it means nothing I guess. I had only one alcoholic drink as I wanted to be in prime condition despite the long flight.

[QUOTE=Ranger775]I tipped the other girls the equivalent of the bar fine. That being said, I think it is a more a personal issue between you and how much you think the girl's time is worth. Personally, having been bereft of the companionship of some of the sweetest, nicest girls you can find I was more than happy to be a little generous.

Considering that a car mechanic charges about $40-$60 and hour and he may. Or may not, provide the service desired, if anything I probably under tipped the girls.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing, it's always interesting to me. I know it's a personal thing, and while I always try to learn the market prices and try not to underpay or overpay, I tend to be generous when tipping the girls, well I think I tip reasonably well. Thanks for sharing.

Tonight had 4 girls ;)
Well actually 2 to dinner, and 2 to bed (not same two). Got two that were very comfortable together. They didn't mind tongue kissing with all three tongues all in together.

Flyhere was visiting during dinner.

Today had a boom boom with LL girl in the morning (and previous night), soapy in afternoon and two girls B and Y for bi-play tonight. Now that I have got that out of the system , should be able to return to more normal levels of behaviour.

Then again various MP options beckon for today.

Tonight is going to be halloween at the lodge.
I think I am suited to being Dracula (or Vlad the Impaler). Which damsel in distress needs to be sucked and which part of her body has the best blood supply?
:eek:

The bad news is that the hot scantilly dressed petite super star Miss Siamese is gone from the lodge but several new girls are here.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Tonight had 4 girls ;)
Well actually 2 to dinner, and 2 to bed (not same two). Got two that were very comfortable together. They didn't mind tongue kissing with all three tongues all in together.[/QUOTE]
I was wondering about that, when I saw Miss G and Miss M back in the Sports Bar after dinner. And Miss G wants her photo taken next time, may be not tonight dressed up as a vampire or a witch?

[quote=flyhere]i was wondering about that, when i saw miss g and miss m back in the sports bar after dinner. and miss g wants her photo taken next time, may be not tonight dressed up as a vampire or a witch?[/quote]
what with all the witches and vampires in the bar last night, is amazing how ugly the girls can become with a bit of makeup.
so you are right, not exactly in their most beautiful for photos form. but those with blood dripping from nose and mouth had a certain morbid fasination for me.
however late in the evening things started to improve with the halloween costumes starting to morph into pool party attire (because that's what the customers wanted lol).
mamasan miss slippery peel got to show off her ample cleavage. miss new-one was rather scantily clad even as a vampire, to get best advantage of her ample cleavage as well. she is rather a wicked one :)

two or three of the top girls were missing, perhaps pre-bfed by special customers. hopefully i will get a chance with sassy miss taiwan another day or maybe should see why superstar miss taxing is so popular (but she probably likes men more young and handsome than me).

after a sex packed first 24 hours in thailand, yesterday was the big slllooooow down. only had one sex session due to unforeseen circumstances. :(
will have to make ammends today.

i really miss petite miss siamese's bottom even though i never had it. what a pity i was so slow!

miss beauty and miss android (not so tall even in high heels) are covering the petite department now and did look good in bikinis. :d

in fact the pretty miss android has just walked out late morning to the breakfast area with a handsome young man and is waving goodbye.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]What with all the witches and vampires in the bar last night, is amazing how ugly the girls can become with a bit of makeup.
So you are right, not exactly in their most beautiful for photos form. But those with blood dripping from nose and mouth had a certain morbid fasination for me.[/QUOTE]
Ugly makeups or not, I think thanks to the icehockey team, almost all the ladies were barfined, I can tell seeing Mr. G was rubbing his hands gleefully, even though mamasan complained that some customers were only drinking and talking to one another, and not interested in the girls.

last night in ll there were a huge number of guests, the "ice-hockey" players and their gfs.

i was politically a little incorrect by having dinner with ex-mrs g who was looking "really good" and perhaps looked 10 years younger than last time i saw her. she was here with a few others to help out witha temporary staff increase. i played pool with her for a bit since we are both roughly equally rather mediocre.

after thinking that campari was the worst drink ever, 25 years ago, but hearing that giotto likes to drink campari and orange, it was time to re-try. i actually now quite enjoyed a campari and tonic since my taste buds have deteriorated over the years and bitterness now seemed quite moderate. it also has an interesting herbal flavour but a lot better than chatreuse whick is too sickly sweet for the herbs to be enjoyed properly.

decided to disappear for a while while the ice-hockey party was in full swing, as was afraid i would be perving too much on the thai players girlsfriends. several were cute and the odd one rather hot!

got a "double trouble" pair of sw girls back to my room again.
its good to have a deluxe room in the far building out front now as don't have to do the walk of shame past reception and the bar and possibly in front of giotto, auntie g, all the other staff etc. with too young girls in tow (although safely well over 20).

later was back to the bar and miss crystal-gail grabbed ne for her daily english lesson. she has an incredible memory like a steel trap for things i taught her on previous days. i am jealous and wish my memory was still that good.
sometimes i get stuck when i know the meaning of a thai word but struggle to put it into english. not every thai concept has a commonly used easy english equivalent.
last night after several drinks my brain had just got lazy and wouldn't translate properly. i couldn't think out that "noi jai" mean't to feel "hurt" or "peeved".

i think now to try to settle down to about just 2 monger sessions per day.

oh oh! a guest of the hotel has just come down to breakfast. what a dirty old bestard! he is arriving with two girls from sports bar in tow. both miss mild and miss android.
i'm very jealous! :mad: i certainly like both of these girls.
he obviously took both for the whole night.
i would never do such a wicked thing ;)

[quote=mick licker]later was back to the bar and miss crystal-gail grabbed ne for her daily english lesson. she has an incredible memory like a steel trap for things i taught her on previous days. i am jealous and wish my memory was still that good.
sometimes i get stuck when i know the meaning of a thai word but struggle to put it into english. not every thai concept has a commonly used easy english equivalent.
last night after several drinks my brain had just got lazy and wouldn't translate properly. i couldn't think out that "noi jai" mean't to feel "hurt" or "peeved".[/quote]
well, she is in 2nd year at ramkhamhaeng after all, she'll make a good accountant one day.

perhaps you can start a new section for useful thai phrases.

speaking of learning languages, i was at nataree last night, and asked papasan to suggest a girl who can speak english. i got one who was rather "fluent", she proudly told me she learnt every from her customers. her vocab were very amusing, with dirty words i normally hear a guy say. may be i'll ask papasan to point out the girls who are fluent in english next time, so i can avoid them...:d

fly

[QUOTE=Flyhere]Well, she is in 2nd year at Ramkhamhaeng after all, she'll make a good accountant one day.

Perhaps you can start a new section for useful Thai phrases.

Speaking of learning languages, I was at Nataree last night, and asked papasan to suggest a girl who can speak English. I got one who was rather "fluent", she proudly told me she learnt every from her customers. Her vocab were very amusing, with dirty words I normally hear a guy say. May be I'll ask papasan to point out the girls who are fluent in English next time, so I can avoid them...:D

fly[/QUOTE]
Just as we are not keen on girls who drop the Farang dirty words, Thai girls are usually not that keen to here Farangs using Thai dirty words. So if you learn any, best not to actually speak them.

I have been in trouble for using impolite words words like "ngian(falling tone)" horny, "moi(rising tone)" (pubic hair).

So now I had better include the more polite words that can be actually used:
"mee arom" (have a mood to do something)
"khon(rising) phet(high tone)" (diamond hairs)

You can see that poilte words are usually indirect euphemisms.

Although some of the sports bar girls are "Thaleung" (naughty talk), particularly mamasans and Miss New-One, they still mostly avoid dirty words, and use indirect references, double meanings and ironical or satircal sort of talk.

Other girls like Miss Crystal Gail are not "Thaleung" at all but appear rather innocent.

As I wind down my time at Livingstone's I thought I would provide an update on my impressions of the Lodge.

First, I wanted to make a confession to Mick Licker. I was the "dirty old BESTARD" you saw arriving with TWO girls from sports bar in tow (I accept being called a Bestard, but thought dirty and old was a little over the top. I do shower daily when I am in civilization, haha). However, I will defend the honor of the girls, at the risk of derision and my reputation, and say it was a platonic night of blissful sleep with two wonderful girls (something about turning in bed and seeing a beautiful sweet girl sleeping next to you). In any respect, I hope you are in the bar tonight as I promised you a drink to assuage your jealously.

All of the observations I made on my October 28 report has been validated throughout my stay. It has truly been a remarkable experience that was made even more remarkable by everyone at the lodge, The staff, the girls, Giotto, and of course Som.

As a lark I thought the girls might enjoy a different environment so I took a room for a few nights at the Marriott (using a few of my Marriott points). The Marriott was indeed a remarkable hotel, easily ranking among the best that I have seen in over 40 countries. However, as I alluded in my earlier post, once one sees past the grandeur and the elegance, Livingstone's offers the best value.

The best illustration that I can provide is in the dining experience. One of the evenings I ate at the steak house located at the Marriott. It was a truly elegant dining experience. They offered a variety of steaks made from Angus or Australian beef and I selected the tenderloin, the same Argetine cut I had a few days earlier at the Lodge. There was no discernible difference in the quality of the tenderloin between that which I had eaten at the Lodge and the Marriott. However, in the end, I paid nearly three times more for the privilege of eating in the grandeur of the Marriott. Indeed, I would have to say that the dining in the sedate and relaxed atmosphere by the pool at the lodge more enjoyable than the experience at the Marriott.

The girls at the Lodge continued to be gems. Everyone one sweet and affectionate. Mick Licker can provide much more information regarding many of the girls than I. I settled into a three girl starting rotation, seeing each one of the three girl's on a different evening (there were a few evenings when I took two girls if I knew I just wanted a relaxing evening of cuddling rather than sex).

So many of the girls at the lodge were so sweet and sensual that I was tempted on a number of occasions to bring in a relief pitcher. However, the chemistry I had developed with the three girls was such that I did not want to tempt fate and risk having a less than amazing GFE (from my limited experience the first time you are with someone is usually a little awkward). By the second and third time I have been with each girls, I felt, at least from my perspective, we had developed a lot of chemistry and it made the GFE even more pleasurable.

In this respect, I will always be indebted to Som for her advice and guidance. If not for her, I believe I would have gotten into a very uncomfortable situation and way too close to one of the girls.

I know that people have differing desires and intents on visiting Bangkok. But for me, I could not entertain taking one of the girls at the go-go bars when I had such a find selection of sweet, vivacious, sensuous girls to chose from at the Lodge. The girls had the bars looked bored and I suspect it would be totally hit or miss in finding a gem, that was readily available at the lodge.

Someone had mentioned earlier on the thread that had heard that the cost for "ringing the bell" and buying the girls a round of drinks could cost up to 10,000 Baht. Virtually, every night I have been at the bar I had bought the girls the first round and the total cost never exceeded 2500 - 3500 Baht (and that was buying each girl, regardless of whether they were in the bar at the time, their first drink). Moreover, NEVER I had even remotely felt any pressure by any of the girls to buy them a drink.

I can say without hesitation that the lodge has provided a very safe, comfortable, atmosphere in which one can enjoy a very relaxing experience in the accompany of a group of very sweet, sensual girls. I doubt that you can put a price from the solace of knowing that if you had a problem Som or Giotto would resolve it.

In summation, I feel a sense of sadness that my time is quickly coming to an end. However, I will leave with great memories and as I return for another three month stint of work in an environment bereft of sex, drink, and female companionship. But on a more optimistic note, I can start counting the days when I can take my next vacation and return to the Lodge will be like coming home.

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Sure, even if I know some words, I wouldn't use them without knowing the correct context. For some reasons, even the Thai co-workers who speak fluent English at work can't seem to explain the correct usage for the Thai words they teach me, I have been corrected numerous times by someone else.

Actually, I have been browsing around unsuccessfully for some good text book materials to teach a couple of the TG's beginner's conversation English. May be I just compile a bunch of lessons myself, based on a typical conversation or small talks at a soapie or oily. Reading this forum ought to give me plenty to use as well, but that could be a lot of work..:)

[QUOTE=Ranger775]
First, I wanted to make a confession to Mick Licker. I was the "dirty old BESTARD" you saw arriving with TWO girls from sports bar in tow [/QUOTE]

Well I have to admit very clean and smart and looks younger than me too.
"Dirty Old" usually should be Dirty Old Man refering to older guy with young girls. But my imagination was running wildly.

The next bit does not apply to you, Ranger, but just my frustration with a couple top girls being missing on an ongoing basis.

The real Bestards might be those coming in and trying to steal away the very best sportbar superstars all for themselves and prevent the girl working for the bar at all. O.K. if they intending to really marry the girl, but if just leading her on ...

Is this really "love" or just wanting to be a sugar-daddy and bribe a girl to become like personal property till get bored with her and then cut off the money and discard her.

I do not covert girls so jealously that I would do that. I have BFed the girl by normal procedure on multiple nights, but she always has a choice to go with someone else. We are not "owners" of girls!

O.K. I must be a freak! I don't get bothered by seeing other guys BFing girls that I like, as long as we get to see the girls faces turn up at times in the bar.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Well I have to admit very clean and smart and looks younger than me too.

"Dirty Old" usually should be Dirty Old Man refering to older guy with young girls. But my imagination was running wildly.

The next bit does not apply to you, Ranger, but just my frustration with a couple top girls being missing on an ongoing basis.

The real Bestards might be those coming in and trying to steal away the very best sportbar superstars all for themselves and prevent the girl working for the bar at all. O.K. if they intending to really marry the girl, but if just leading her on ...

Is this really "love" or just wanting to be a sugar-daddy and bribe a girl to become like personal property till get bored with her and then cut off the money and discard her.

I do not covert girls so jealously that I would do that. I have BFed the girl by normal procedure on multiple nights, but she always has a choice to go with someone else. We are not "owners" of girls!

O.K. I must be a freak! I don't get bothered by seeing other guys BFing girls that I like, as long as we get to see the girls faces turn up at times in the bar.[/QUOTE]Well, out of deference to the regulars I did have a three girl rotation going which usually left the other two sweethearts available 2/3rds of the time (granted some real Bestard stepped in and bar fined one long term, probably to both of our disappointment).

Regarding the girls working, I actually have more comfort knowing they are working here than say on the street or in one of the go-go bars. I long ago gave up the notion that I could "save" such girls and am not rich enough to be a sugar daddy. That being said, having had many conversations with girls in numerous other countries, I suspect that very few would enter the profession if the country in which they lived provided them a living wage.

The only issue I take is if someone treats them less than human or denigrates them because of the work they do (ultimately irony is for some prick to be mean to working girl because he thinks the work she does is so demaning, yet she is providing a service he is seeking). They are human beings, and in most respects, very decent, good people whose circumstances warrant they work in the field. Subsequently, I would urge everyone to treat the girls with the respect, if not for them, then out of self-interest because usually if the girl senses you are a decent guy they provide a much higher level of service.

[QUOTE=Ranger775] Subsequently, I would urge everyone to treat the girls with the respect, if not for them, then out of self-interest because usually if the girl senses you are a decent guy they provide a much higher level of service.[/QUOTE]
I am being general here not specific to LL.

YMMV (Your mileage may vary) is very true.
One customer complained bitterly about a girl being pathetic but I thought she was quite O.K. without being a superstar.

Sometimes I would think that a girl was rather ordinary, and conclude that she lacked experience and needed some training. But someone else would say no. She had plenty of experience but could be she didn't like me that much or the chemistry was not quite right.

But hopefully many girls in this profession will be girls that really like sex a lot and be willing to let themselves go and have a wild time. I find that Thai P4P girls are generally liking sex much more than P4P girls in my home country and consequently are often capable of performing well.

Normally the best girls are ones that are adventurous and played with themselves since puberty to be totally in touch with there own bodies.

I think its rather rare that a girl who never masturbated will be really hot perfomer in bed.

But unfortunately their is a society view that good girls do not want sexual feeling so much that they would masturbate.

Last night i took a "super star" type girl and she performed fantastic mainly because she liked me. But she admitted to being a horny girl and having some sex toys for times when the man didn't satisfy her or when no men available. I really like girls that are this horny. Of course she will have collected several special customers but doesn't me.

But its funny how the girls love to joke with you like:
"would you like to be my boyfriend?" Perhaps I would be happy to become one of the "boyfriends".
She said to see her again tonight, because after that she's booked out for the next few nights. LOL
Thats what happens with superstars. :(

The best thing for the superstar girls is that they get plenty of offers so they don't have to sleep with just any customer. They will go only with the ones they like. They are no desperate that they have to go with just anybody.

This way the customer is almost guaranteed a good time because he knows the girl is skillful and merely by "choosing him" she is indicating willingness to have a good time.

From the opposite view, I don't want any girl unless she really likes me. It would be a waste of time otherwise.

[QUOTE=Ranger775]
The girls at the Lodge continued to be gems. Everyone one sweet and affectionate. Mick Licker can provide much more information regarding many of the girls than I. I settled into a three girl starting rotation, seeing each one of the three girl's on a different evening (there were a few evenings when I took two girls if I knew I just wanted a relaxing evening of cuddling rather than sex).
[/QUOTE]
No no you would be the expert Ranger, after spending considerable time with these girls. I am too much of a butterfly to know any of the girls at all well.

The star bargirl never liked me! Why was that?

She thought I appeared to be rather "stuck up" (snob or something like that). Was that because I didn't really talk to her or didn't smile enough? Sometimes a bar has many girls, and its not possible to be friendly and buy drinks for them all. A guy might get busy with one girl and doesn't have chance to meet popular girls who already have a customer.

One way to meet all the girls easily, is to ring the bell and buy them all a drink but that might 3000 Baht.

So me being too shy to approach girls already with another customer was interpreted as "stuck up". Also because I was seen to be "in with the boss" somewhat, girls became wary of me.

Anyway the truth was that I fancied one girl in the bar for quite a long time but never really had a chance to approach her when she wasn't already with customers.
She had a special body and knew how to flaunt it to good effect.

But one day I spoken to her very briefly when she was about to go to Pattaya with a customer or had just come back, I forget and I didn't want to appear too desperate for her.
She apparently then decided there was no way she would go with this guy (me).

One day I finally met her by chance when she wasn't busy> after a little chat she started to change her mind. Later she said that I wasn't actually like what she thought.

Now she is quite keen to see me as often as possible and even is hoping one of her other appointments might cancel.

Today she says she is still puzzled about exactly what sort of guy I am. But actually summing me up is incredibly easy.
A bit of a butterfly (maybe big butterfly) but with a good heart. I try to treat girls well and care about them more than just getting a good screw.

But I run into some problems when a girl wants to spend every evening with me but I am looking to butterfly a bit more than that.

For many of us we try to treat others fairly and hope (perhaps naively) that they might treat us fairly in return.

But does Thailand really work properly by that principal, or is it a place where you are either the "taker" or the "takee". I always hope that some Thais are not that way. But unfortunately there are many who easily forget people that were previously kind to them and then only think about who is useful to them today or tomorrow.

One thing that girls like is that I don't talk that much about myself or business and especially not about my work which very few would understand anyway. Most girls will prefer to talk about themselves more LOL. i.e. about their life, friends, problems etc.

Its a funny Thai custom that every day the staff, being frinedly to me, will ask "where are you going?" or "where have you been?" Is the thai equivalent to "How are you going?" but as westeners we find it hard to get used to.
I usually have to answer with "Its better you don't know" since I am probably just turning from a Soapy Massage parlour or heading to a bar or have appointment to meet a girl etc.

What are the rates for BF and LT at sports bar for the girls there?

Cheers

Ragoji

[QUOTE=Ragoji]What are the rates for BF and LT at sports bar for the girls there?

Cheers

Ragoji[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, the answer is "it depends" and I don't even know the answer fully.

The BF in Soi 33 is much higher than other districts on the basis that some of the girls are supposed to be in a higher class which is not always the case LOL.

But there are some pretty girls available and some very popular ones.

Early in the evening, the normal BF at LL is 1500 Baht. Later in the evening (11PM?) it drops to 1000, and very late drops further to 500 Baht, I think. The purpose is to try to retain the girl and the customer in the bar a little longer LOL.

I have no idea the going rates for ST and LT as I pay whatever I think is fair, but above the market rate.
As I am known to be "not tight", girls are often too shy to even discuss the price with me. But for new-comers, it is better to discuss price with a girl to avoid misunderstandings.

[QUOTE=Ragoji]What are the rates for BF and LT at sports bar for the girls there?

Cheers

Ragoji[/QUOTE]Micklicker is correct on the bar fine rates as it was explained to me. Prior to taking a girl I discussed the LT rates with a mamsan (if you are worried about rates for ST then I would suggest that masterbation is probably a cheaper alternative that essentially provides the same result). The suggested rates for LT appeared to be within the normal range prices in Bangkok (3000-4000).

However, like Micklicker, I never discussed prices with the girls and, since I always received quality service and paid more than the market rate.

[QUOTE=Ranger775]if you are worried about rates for ST then I would suggest that masterbation is probably a cheaper alternative that essentially provides the same result[/QUOTE]Outch. That sounds just a tiny bit insulting.

There are good reasons for ST. One is that some may NOT want too much of a GFE, or value their undisturbed sleep, or don't want to wake up with a hangover next to someone they don't know.

And you can always upgrade. The risk of a serious personality and chemistry change once you have them in the sack is quite real.

Anyway, to the OP: was quoted 2000 for ST at midnight. So yes, normal range, especially for Soi 33.

First, I did not ask for the special discount for this report. I wanted to be objective:) This is a great place with excellent value to stay while in BKK. My plane got in much later than anticipated. It was delayed in Narita, Japan. I finally checked in at the lodge at 0145 in the morning after 24 hours on the road to get here. It was very nce that Giotto was waiting for me to check in. Excellent host and warmly welcomed me. The lady at the front desk to me to my room after checking in. The room is great ! ! I have stayed at similar priced places in BKK before down towrds the JW Marriott. This out does those by a long shot. The room was very nicely furnished and clean ! !

After cleaning up, hit Degas bar across the street. I met 4 of the girls (F, N, B, and T) and bought them drinks and I had a Chang (sp). We talked and got to know each other better for a good hour in the bar. Had another beer and one of thegirls wanted to go back across the srteet with me. I paid the 1000 baht barfine. While that girl changed, another slipped me her phone number on a piece of paper :) for when I come back next week. The other girl got back and we headed back across the street.

In the room we started kissing and talking. Generall necking/petting and getting to know each other. As we kissed and hands roamed, pieces of each others clothing came off. I started rubbing her clit and in a couple of minutes she was very wet. BTW, the girl is 25 years old and has a very tight body. For you large tit lovers forget it. For you nipple lovers like me, great standing nipples. When kissing and licking them she really came aroused. Then down for DATY until her 1st orgasm. More stimulation for her and then I entered the most velvety pussy that I hadn't felt in a long time. Many positions with her until I cum. The some more talking and the same for round 2. Except in round 2 she orgasmed so hard she bit her tongue and it started bleeding. I cum soon after this and she went to the bathroom to spit out the blood. A little more of the champagne stopped the bleeding. She is also a biter when nearing orgasm. I have 4 black and blue bite marks on my arms and chest :):)

I don't know what time we fell asleep, but we raided the mini-bar for beer and champagne. The mini-bar is well stocked and prices not outrageous like other mini-bars. Then we fell asleep. I had awake up call at 0700 when the girl said she had to go. At 7 she just rolled over into my arms and kissed me and stayed longer. We fell asleep for a couple of more hours and then did round 3.

Then we showered and changed. I walked her out and gave her 3000 baht for LT as she stayed past 7. Oroginally it was going to be 2000 baht for sST to 7. But since she stayed to almost 11, I gave her LT price. She was very happy, and I was very happy ! !

Checked out and then had breakfast at Giottos. Great breakfast with eggs, ham, tomatoes, toast and coffee. Better than most places I have been to and the eggs and ham were not greasy like most place I have had breakfast in Thailand.

Now off to the airport for Phnom Penh and Khmer New Year. I will be staying again at Livinstones next weekend on my way back to Seoul. I really enjoyed here ! ! ! ! !

Last night had dinner at the lodge with my chosen girl.
She had cancelled with her previous appointment. A younger guy who was supposed to be a semi-boyfriend after just one month. But as he was a big bullshit artist my girl preferred my more honest company. Admitting I am still a butterfly works O.K.

Happened to see that Flyhere was here for dinner too with 2 girls: Miss Quacky and Miss Mai.
My girl Miss Siamese was an ex-coyote dancer so she offered to take me to the "best" Coyote show in BKK. I asked flyhere if he would like to come too. So he selected the tall and very sexy Miss Quacky to be his company.

The coyote show was at "Mai Ek" in Raam Inthra, a little way from BKK on Rama 9 direction. A lot of people there but i think I was the only Farang. It was the normal Thai style where you pay for a bottle of JW Black Label and then the staff mix you extremely weak drinks using this, way less than half a shot per glass. So your whiskey never runs out even with 4 people.

The coyote girls were of course well above avregae looks, ;) with white skin, and no flat chested girls. Indeed some or most of the girls had exaggerated silicone jobs, a few nose jobs, and in the end only 10-20% of these girls were natural enough looking to appeal to me. One tall one looked like a ladyboy to me.

In addition to the coyote girls, there were many many hostess girls who are there to sit with customers. But obviously you have to pay a price perhaps in drinks for lady companions.

This is a sexist place, because we had our girls already, and had to pay a 500 Baht fine for each of the girls to allow them to enter. So basically this place is encouraging male customers only to receive hostess services.

I don't believe the hostesses were bar fineable, but you never know, private arrangements may occur to meet after work.

One mamasan of the hostesses was a lady boy and liked to spend time at our table because secretly whispered to my girl that "she" liked big banana and my my girl agreed. And since I was the only Farang in the place .... "She" wanted me to feel up her boobs. Was a silicone job and a bit hard for my taste LOL. Ladyboys do not scare me but of course I am only into real pussy of course.

The band was playing all crappy hip-hop stuff which apparently the Thais like. But later the band went away (thank god) and the coyote dancers got a bit more imaginative and more interesting once the techno music started.

We got sold a couple of shot glasses that appeared to contain B52 drinks but on tasting them had no flavour. Turned out to be like flour mixed with water and some brown colouring.

Turned out that the drinks were to be tipped/thrown over the bodies of dancers in bikinis and then you are allowed to spread the goo over their bodies a little. But alas they still have a bikini on.

Then followed ladies covered in goo wrestling (somewhat staged of course). During the wrestling, the bars and panties got pulled off to reveal G string and sort of pasties covering the nipples. So both flyhere and myself thought the Thai entertainment was a bit lame compared to Soi Cowboy LOL.

As both of our girls like dancing and drinks had got them in the mood, we went to Spice Club under Ambassador Hotel for a while. Not the most upmarket place in BKK but open late, easy to get in, and convenient.

I did a bit of the crazy dancing despite not even being slightly drunk. Flyhere was not quite able to make an idiot of himself llike me. There were plenty of girls in the place with no guy attached, and quite a bit of talent. So going there without a girl should be very good idea ;)

Some variety of music there but a bit too much hip-hop as usual.

Eventually we realised we had better go before the girls got too sleepy for bed activities.

A good session followed but we conked out exhausted getting close to 5AM. Had to continue again in the morning. My girl is horny and has good sex drive. But we are compatible in that both of us take a fair time to reach completion. She likes sex toys too. I made her a present of a small "bullet" vibe that fits into her purse easily.
I feel sorry for the bar girl that she only got 4 hours sleep and has to start work fairly early today where I will try to crash out on the plane.

She of course wants me to keep in touch and be "special" for her. I have to leave LOS today. :(

At breakfast was very busy and the petite but pretty Sports Bar "twins" were down to breakfast as well. They are getting very popular and might be moving towards "star" status after only being here a month.

Hardly saw "stars" Miss Sexy Taxi or Miss Taiwan for the entire stay at Livingstones. One had gone home up country for a while and the other probably BFed for an extended period. So its lucky there are some new stars arriving.

Went to look in Annies Massage yesterday, but as the only girl I fancied was the mamasan, I came back to the lodge saving my energy for much more pretty girls around here.

Has been a great 11 days at the Lodge and never got bored.
The bill was not too big and a plesent suprise as didn't put too much on my room tab preferring to pay for dinners and bar.

Thanks to Mick and his lady friend for a fun late night out.

After roaming around Panthip Plaza and MBK, it started to rain a little, so I swung by LL for a drink and see who's in. Bought a few of the girls a couple of drinks, and was introduced to Miss T.

Decided to grab some dinner, and invited Miss T and Miss M. Dinner at LL is always enjoyable, of course with the good company, and with the friendly Guido and staff who come by to chit chat a bit every time. Conversation with sweet Miss T was limited as she speaks very little English, but helped by friendly Miss M.

Happened to see Mick and his lady across the pool. They later were nice enough to ask if I wanted to join them and go to a local coyote bar, I tipped Miss M for her time, BFed Miss T and off we went.

To me the coyote bar is no different to the go-go's, the girls in skimpy outfits line up on the stage or catwalks, shaking to the same hip-hop rhythm for what seemed like a monotonously long time. The girls I guess were selected for the Thai taste, young and fair skin, lots of silicon jobs.

Later we doused the bikini clad girls with this mixture that can be best described as wet cornstarch, if anyone does some cooking you would know what I mean, the mixture was not slick enough but rather sticky, I think hot cream would cost way too much. The local crowd seemed to enjoy the show, although it was way too lame for us, you can see more skin at any place on Soi Cowboy. Our girls seemed to enjoy the place, however.

Miss T while very sweet was not spectacular in bed, we had a good time together nevertheless. Later I gave her the LT rate plus some extra plus taxi money, walked her downstairs and sent her off home in a taxi. She was a bit surprised and thought I had forgotten that we agreed on ST, and I only owed her a lot less, and taxi home does not cost 500thb.

She was happy to accept the money after I explained that I have not gone senile, nor being too drunk. Like some others, I like to negotiate time and not money, and always pay the ladies well.

just to inquire, are there pics of these "gems" @ the ll? i know that mick has a great taste when it comes to the ladies but a little peek is all i ask for.

cheers

[quote=mauldid]just to inquire, are there pics of these "gems" @ the ll? i know that mick has a great taste when it comes to the ladies but a little peek is all i ask for.

cheers[/quote]mauldid,

sorry, as mentioned before, no pictures of our girls. things are changing fast, and girls are not to be misused for marketing purposes.


giotto

[quote=mauldid]just to inquire, are there pics of these "gems" @ the ll? i know that mick has a great taste when it comes to the ladies but a little peek is all i ask for.

cheers[/quote]
mauldid,

there are some pics of the girls posted outside the sports bar at the moment and that was the only way i got to know all the girls names.

the sports bar has girls with well above average looks and a few very pretty to my taste. the amount of experience of the girls varies greatly, as does ability to speak english, etc.

in the end, how good it can be might be about having a special chemistry with some girl. although i stay at the lodge, i have many outside activities like massage parlours etc. so i don't spend all my time drinking in the sports bar. besides, at my age, alcohol interferes with my performance.

there are some very nice girls in the sports bar that i am yet to sample in the bedroom, but would like to. its confusing when two of them are sisters and look similar enough to be twins. so which one :confused:

i am a little backward about trying new girls because its always a gamble (will they suit me right) so i have a habit of going with girls that i know well already instead, rather than sampling the field. so because of that i can't give a list of all the great performers in my view. it all remains a mystery.

but when i notice girls getting repeatedly booked, there must be something good about them that makes customers want to repeat.

quite a few of the girls have been getting fairly regularly barfined despite being low season. girls not getting barfined could be great too, with just no one wanting to try them for one reason or another. its always tougher for girls not as pretty or with bodies not as sexy. but sweet character can make up for that.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker] Its confusing when two of them are sisters and look similar enough to be twins. So which one :confused:[/QUOTE]Not twins. Not sisters. Only friends.

[QUOTE=Indo Phile]Not twins. Not sisters. Only friends.[/QUOTE]
Well obviously you don't know them nor know who I am refering to as they are 100% genuine sisters in the Farang sense of the word that would be hard to tell apart except different hair length and colour.

Don't worry, I too am usually skeptical about so called "sisters" but in this case there was no room for doubt whatsoever.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Well obviously you don't know them nor know who I am refering to as they are 100% genuine sisters in the Farang sense of the word that would be hard to tell apart except different hair length and colour.

Don't worry, I too am usually skeptical about so called "sisters" but in this case there was no room for doubt whatsoever.[/QUOTE]Oh. Maybe. :confused:

You use clever names so not sure.

Thought you meant Miss B and Miss A.

Think you call Miss B = Miss Beauty = Miss Ringer Ding

and Miss A = Miss Android

[QUOTE=Indo Phile]Oh. Maybe. :confused:

You use clever names so not sure.

Thought you meant Miss B and Miss A.

Think you call Miss B = Miss Beauty = Miss Ringer Ding

and Miss A = Miss Android[/QUOTE]
There are two Miss A's in the Sports bar so you could be thinking of the wrong one for all I know.

It seems silly to say that 2 girls, with such a strong family resemblence to be nearly as similar as identical twins, are not sisters but just friends.

Everyone told me they were sisters and in this case I believed them because I could hardly tell them apart if wasn't for different hair style.

I do know one pair of identical twins in Thailand but have no trouble telling them apart. But they do look the same in photos of when they were young.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]There are two Miss A's in the Sports bar so you could be thinking of the wrong one for all I know.[/QUOTE]Maybe. Your naming of ladies is difficult to understand :confused: Other Miss A = Miss Forbidden Fruit? Not sure, think is bible reference? This Miss A is not looking like Miss B.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Everyone told me they were sisters and in this case I believed them because I could hardly tell them apart if wasn't for different hair style.
[/QUOTE]Heard the same so asked Miss A and Miss B. Petite Miss A who is looking like petite Miss B is from Chiang Mai. Miss B is coming from the different province. Miss A and Miss B say this themselves. So can not be same family! They are always calling each other as sister. So other LL ladies think they sisters. But they think wrong! But Miss A and Miss B look alike.

[QUOTE=Indo Phile]
Heard the same so asked Miss A and Miss B. Petite Miss A who is looking like petite Miss B is from Chiang Mai. Miss B is coming from the different province. Miss A and Miss B say this themselves. So can not be same family! They are always calling each other as sister. So other LL ladies think they sisters. But they think wrong! But Miss A and Miss B look alike.[/QUOTE]
Well someone is getting conned, but I'm not sure who.
Although you believe not sisters I will not believe it as easily without proof. I was told 3 years gap in age, but sisters, by the two girls themselves.

O.K. Its feintly possible that they are not sisters but it seems unlikely to me since looks are so similar.
Since neither of us have seen the Id Cards it seems we have no proof either way.

Sometimes girls jest about being sisters when they are not, sometimes they also jest about which province they come from, especially if they believe the other person will not have heard of their province.

One morning I saw the two of them leave hand in hand looking like sisters absolutely, leaving little doubt in my mind at the time. Same height and build (everything except hair). But out of curiosity I will try to get a look at Id cards next time.

Does Giotto have an opinion here or is this giving away too much?

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
Does Giotto have an opinion here or is this giving away too much?[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

Giotto has no opinion. Too many "sisters" here in Thailand are no real sisters :).

Giotto asked the Mamasan. Mamasan said: Real sisters, same family name.


Giotto

If a bargirl describes her husband as being her brother, sister may really mean lesbian lover.

Perhaps a double barfine would provide the answer.

[QUOTE=Difuso]If a bargirl describes her husband as being her brother, sister may really mean lesbian lover.

Perhaps a double barfine would provide the answer.[/QUOTE]
I don't think we want to get into anything ugly re these two lovely girls. They really both seem sweet.

I know there ar guys out there with the sisters fantasy or the mother and daughter fantasy.

I have been to bed with two sisters (but not at the same time and nothing to do with LL) Phen, then years later Phaa, and then years later Phen again. Strangely didn't seem to upset them. Phen is still an occasional gik. The resemblence wasn't strong except in the D cup tits on both of them.

Last night the Sports Lounge was packed. We had expected that, because all other bars in Soi 33 (except Mojo's) were closed.

Wave after wave of customers came in, and the "inhouse restaurant" stayed open late. Nearly all customers ordered alcoholic drinks...some complained that we kept the music on a very low level in the bar. We even shut the music down sometimes, after groups of customers really started to party.

I was asked to lift all self-set rules during last night: We changed the music from classical music to soft rock, the girls asked for alcoholic lady drinks ... and most customers/girls reacted at least unfriendly when I finally kept up some minimum rules and did not allow partying / dancing in the bar.

Many new faces in the bar, and with them the old discussions we did not have for at nearly 2 years now: A customer ordering one beer (! THB 100,00) and then complaining about service charge (THB 10.00) and VAT (THB 7.70) ... not realizing that the beer was in total ( = THB 117.70) still cheaper than in the other bar areas (THB 120.00) .

Good business for the ladies, too, some of them turned themselves to mass service providers, leaving for ST and returning after an hour to find the next customer...

I don't think that anybody really cared about what was going on at Sanam Luang that day.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]...Nearly all customers ordered alcoholic drinks...some complained that we kept the music on a very low level in the bar. We even shut the music down sometimes, after groups of customers really started to party.

I was asked to lift all self-set rules during last night: We changed the music from classical music to soft rock, the girls asked for alcoholic lady drinks ... and most customers/girls reacted at least unfriendly when I finally kept up some minimum rules and did not allow partying / dancing in the bar.
....[/QUOTE]
Its quite difficult to understand why LL and Mojos/Ofiice did not have to close while others did.
Only places NOT paying off police?? :D

I never had a problem with music being too soft!

No partying and dancing :confused:
No one ever stopped me from dancing/partying. ;)
I can still remember some of New Year's Eve crazy dancing despite too many B52's and flaming sambuccas.
I even recall being required to dance on top of a table.

Perhaps you are referring to someyhing more extreme than just dancing??? Many of the bar girls cannot keep their feet still when their favourite songs come on.
What is "partying" exactly?
If you mean no fights and no sex in bar, I can understand that LOL And I suppose you don't want out of control drunks crashing into everything.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]If you mean no fights and no sex in bar, [/QUOTE]

LOL... I always wondered why there were no curtains or doors by the couches in the back...

But then I keep remembering that LL is not SOL ;)

(and thankfully so...)

A few days in MNL first so about 5 more days then I should be seeing the sweetest lady at LL... Ms. Emmy... :) And one guy glued to a computer screen :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]LOL... I always wondered why there were no curtains or doors by the couches in the back...

But then I keep remembering that LL is not SOL ;)

(and thankfully so...)

A few days in MNL first so about 5 more days then I should be seeing the sweetest lady at LL... Ms. Emmy... :) And one guy glued to a computer screen :D[/QUOTE]
Giotto should go to SOL one day to get some new insperation. LOL

Lucky you are not there for the crazy shut-down (no dancing with Emmy out of respect for Princess Galyani).

One bar girl says: "Its my day off but I think I won't take it. The bar is busy and good for making money today."

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Lucky you are not there for the crazy shut-down (no dancing out of respect for Princess Galyani).[/QUOTE]

Planned it this way... I was mid flight between MNL and BKK when the Princess passed away and ended up having two weeks stuck in BKK with all work canceled that trip (damn that sucked :D )... Knew this was going on and planned around it.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Planned it this way... I was mid flight between MNL and BKK when the Princess passed away and ended up having two weeks stuck in BKK with all work canceled that trip (damn that sucked :D )... Knew this was going on and planned around it.[/QUOTE]
Do you post in the Philippean Forums as well or is that all secret? or under a different handle?

Delayed my arrival a couple of days because of the mourning period for the Princess, getting in on Saturday afternoon. Yes, the town was shut down that night, but I was so tired from a week of revelry in Angeles City I didn't give a damn. I was very happy to be able to drink a beer or two with dinner, though, and to at least have the option of companionship with a Sports Bar lady. BTW, Soi Cowboy was rocking the very next night (Sunday) and Tulip and Annies were open that day as well.

My first impressions of the Lodge have been extremely positive. I'm staying in one of the deluxe rooms facing the pool (#117), and I've found it to be more than satisfactory: quiet, large comfortable bed, aesthetically pleasing. The staff and Guido have been uniformly helpful and professional. I haven't bar-fined anybody from the Sports Bar yet, but that is likely to change in the next couple of days. I have experienced a little sticker shock coming from Angeles, but I'm slowly adjusting! The Sports Bar ladies are a more expensive short-time option than say a two-hour romp at Tulip, but its hard to argue with the convenience factor and the much nicer room setting. On a long-time basis, the deal seems to greatly improve, considering one could easily spend 12+ hours with the lady. The prices I was quoted: barfine 1,500 baht from 6pm to 11, 1,000 after 11pm, and 700 at 1am. Short-time costs 2,000 and long-time 3,000.

This is my first trip to Bangkok, and I'm already plotting my return. A fascinating environment indeed! I will be posting a TR or two soon. The Lodge is in easy walking distance to the BTS and Soi Cowboy, and I've already hoofed it a couple of times as far as Nana and Thong Lo (Tulip), as the weather has been somewhat cool.

Sorry for boring the veterans with this newby summation! And thanks for all the great information.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Do you post in the Philippean Forums as well or is that all secret? or under a different handle?[/QUOTE]

It's funny how some girls, even some from 33 or girls who used to work on 33 know of the forum. One day a girl asked to see a certain web site of a certain hotel / sports bar property that we all know and love. So I showed her that web site [url]http://www.livingstones.co.th/[/url] , and she said no the site where you guys talk about sex with girls. I of course denied that I knew about such a site since I am pure and innocent.

This is why I like how Giotto introduces people from ISG, saying that we share the same hobby and only that... it is very clear and private. Now I wish all other members were private like this and did not start talking about if we posted or hit massage parlors or if we picked up other girls this trip etc... You never know who the guy is with, could be a girl friend or could be a long time friend etc... My favorite is when they say something like, I read your post about ..... Like no thai girl can understand english .... I know I know, it's my own damn fault I paid for her friggin english classes... But that still does not mean that some posters here have to so brain dead and moronic to start blabbing about things in front of all the girls.

On another occasion I came down from my room at another hotel and found a girl who I know very well who works on 33 in the hotels computer (she was with a different customer and he posts here on ISG often and with pictures) and she was reading a report posted by the guy she was seeing. While he was obviously upstairs posting she was down stairs reading... It was so funny, he was posting about how she came so many times and she was showing it to me laughing about how inadequate he really is... ROFLMAO

I've been told by some girls that some customers sit there and tell the girls they read a report about them or they wrote a report about them or posted pictures and send the link to the girls via email. And of course thai bar girls never talk to each other about things like this.

This is why I like Giotto's rule about no pictures and respect that very much, I also like how most posters here are smart enough not to use the girls real names or just use the abbreviations. Just because some girls want the publicity does not mean that every girl does.

Due to certain situations I am in which some of you know, and I've gotten into a little issue before, I'll take my 5th Amendment rights (too bad I'm not an american) and politely not answer. But you do know there is other handles and other sites out there.

I'm considering staying at LL in a few weeks over a long weekend, and I'm curious about a few things.

I've seen LL compared to the JW Marriott which sounds good. I don't need the opulence, and I like the convenience factor. I'm curious what the differences between the various rooms are? Also, I presume there is wireless since I've read that G is on his computer most of the time! Finally, which rooms allow me to bring a "friend" home without walking by the Sports Bar?

Thanks, BR

[quote=bikerider]i'm considering staying at ll in a few weeks over a long weekend, and i'm curious about a few things.

i've seen ll compared to the jw marriott which sounds good. i don't need the opulence, and i like the convenience factor. i'm curious what the differences between the various rooms are? also, i presume there is wireless since i've read that g is on his computer most of the time! finally, which rooms allow me to bring a "friend" home without walking by the sports bar?

thanks, br[/quote]
rooms have cable lan connection and most rooms can receive wireless as well. if by chance you have no lan cable you can borrow one from reception.
in room i use lan cable as its a bit faster still.
out in breakfast area by the pool need to use the high speed wireless.
all internet usage is free! just need the simple password.

no point to compare to mariott as that hotel will much more expensive. a boutique hotel has a totally different feel to it without the "pomp and circumstance".

standard rooms are fine for me. next grade up has larger aircon unit a much larger bathroom and small jacuzzi bath.

i believe next grade up after that has a larger jacuzzi, but i have never been in that sort of room, so giotto best comment.

many girls comment of the artistic style of the rooms.
outside, the hotel has the feel of a tropical island hotel near the beach, even though smack bang in the middle of bkk.

staff are very friendly and , but of course i'm biased as i know them well.