... and a few other odds and ends.
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... and a few other odds and ends.
Evil
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I arrive around 11pm and hopefully by midnight will be enroute to JW.
How long of a cab ride is it from airport to JW Marriott?[/QUOTE]
That time of night the ride into the city usually takes about 20 to 25 minutes, although sometimes late-night traffic can be heavy on Sukhumvit Road, which can add another 15 minutes or so until you're actually at the Marriott.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]... and a few other odds and ends.
Evil[/QUOTE] Those photos look pretty damn good to a guy who's stuck in sex prison! But I'll be on leave in two weeks and ready for action, thanks for the “odds and ends”.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I arrive around 11pm and hopefully by midnight will be enroute to JW.
How long of a cab ride is it from airport to JW Marriott?[/QUOTE]
Purple,
I usually arrive that time of night. Works out great. You should be checking in at the JW just after midnight (40 minutes from landing through Immigration and another 30 minutes max to your hotel.
AT2
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]How early in the morning can you walk over to Nana Plaza and pick a tiny brown bar girl type?? Lets say I wake up at 0800 walk out of JW and am in the mood for love to bring back to the room, where would I go?
Also, how hard is it to bring back two girls to the room for LT or ST?[/QUOTE]
At 8 a.m.? Only if she is hung over and lying in the gutter. Your best bet might be to hang out in the Nana Hotel near the guard desk and wait for a girl to come down after a LT - know a fellow who has done this successfully a few times.
Not sure if you mean two girls in general or specifially at the JW. In general, I have had never had a problem bringing two back but its important that they are buddies and not shy with each other.
I recently visited Bangkok, from April 21st to 29th. I of course read the forum and tried to follow most suggestions by various members. I stayed at the Majestic Grande on Sukhumvit soi 2, a hotel I highly recommend for its location, its comfort and its girl-friendliness.
The first Monday I went to Annie's for a massage and I have to say I was disappointed by the number and quality of the women (you can't talk of girls at Annie's) : mostly in their forties and no cuties. Yet I selected the woman recommended by the mamasan and I have to admit that she was very friendly and ready to do anything I wished. I had bbbj, ass rimming, a good and long sex session in all positions and the usual lame massage (but who cares?). All for 1500 baht plus 200B tip.
The next day, I visited the Beer garden on Soi 7, where I met Joy, a friendly lady who told me that she owned and managed with a frien a beauty salon in the suburbs. She said that she was some kind of freelancer who went with clients only twice a week. Anyway, I took her to my hotel for a short time session. Nice body, no stretches on her stomach (though she is a mother of a 5-year-old boy) and a very good attitude. I paid her 1200B and asked her if she would mind if I posted her mobile phone number on the Internet, to which she replied no. So here it is for those interested :084-3993413, Joy.
On Wednesday, I spent the night with a girl I met last year in the massage parlour that is opposite the Somerset Lake Point hotel on soi 16. I just went there when they were closing (10 pm) and invited her for dinner. She said yes and I took her to Kinnaree, a very good (and somewhat expensive) thai restaurant on soi 8. We had a good meal and I convinced to spend the night with me. We took a taxi to my hotel (it was raining) and we had the best night during all my stay. It was a real GFE and I enjoyed eating her sweet pussy, as I could see how clean she was. Her pussy was so tight that I came too fast the first time, but during the second time I am sure she was not faking that noisy and spastic orgasm!
On Thursday, no sex but some tourism : Rose Garden and its spectacular cultural show.
On Friday I went to Eden Club and then Soi Cowboy. Expect the report on that hectic day in my next post. Thanks for reading.
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After reading all the reports about this place, I tried it out on my 2nd day in BKK. Had a long time after touching down on the first night so mind you, I wasn't really my old self. My LT girl left at 9am but I didn't fall sleep until 1100. But to hell with it, showed up at Eden around 1250, I was the 3rd customer there. The policy wasn't first come first serve so as soon as the first guy picked his girls I jumped right in and pick mine. Both were from the left side of the room. Didn't mean to cut in line but the guy in front of me apparently didn't do his homework and seemed very nervous about the whole thing. Sorry dude if you are a member of this forum, I'll owe you one.
But any way, the ladies (Wa from Evil's report and a spinner I forgot her name) took me up to the room. They weren't 10's but I came for the PSE and not to make love.
After showering and rinsing my mouth (I wasn't going to eat out these bitches, trust me but went along with the routine), we slapped on a porn. Then the fun began.
First pop was BBBJ CIM by the spinner, not too much talent used more of her hand then mouth but she was a trooper, held the jizz in her mouth and walked to the shower to spit and rinse with some Listerine. I was drained and felt like I might be over my head with this 3 some thing. We chilled for about 10 mins, BSed and they gave me a lame massage. Then Wa (big fake boobs) took my cock in her mouth, while the spinner was alternating between ramming her with a strap on and eating her out. Damn this girl can suck. After about 10 mins of hard core deep throating and balls lick, shot my 2nd load. She was tearing and said that the sperm was strong, I laughed. So into the first half, still had another 45 mins, I was really thinking I need to get the fuck out of this place. Only if I had saved my energy from the night before. Fuck it and had to man up as we said it in the states.
Knew it was going to be my last load so I wasn't going to waste time and money and wanted it to prolonged it as possible. Told the spinner to slap on a rubber for me and to start riding like a cowboy. She was loose, a 25 yr from Issan, little titties but again she could fuck. Wa comes over and start licking my nipples. She wants me to lick hers but they are big and are suffocating me. Told her to relax and I'll be with her. Made the spinner do a 180 turn and ride me reverse. I'm looking at the mirrors and thinking, I'm enjoying this is too much. Told spinner I wanted to fuck her in the ass, she says ok and slap on some KY and slip my dick in the brown eye. It went in easy, ass was loose but more tight than the pussy. First anal so I don't know what to expect. She's moaning and seem to be in pain but I see her licking her lips in the mirror. After about 3 mins which seems like an eternity I told WA to get on. Swapped on the condom and she went to work. First grinding then plants her hands on my thighs and came down on me like a jack hammer. Couldn't cum so had them give me a dual BJ; lips on both sides of my cock was so surreal. Finally finish it off with spinner giving me head and I was done. Probably had another 15 mins left but I showed, went down stairs and paid 4000 w/tips and walked out smiling. Might have to go back there before I leave or just bar fine one of them. The quality wasn't there but these ladies knows how to fuck. Again, thanks to everyone that posted a report on this place.
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[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I arrive around 11pm and hopefully by midnight will be enroute to JW.
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When I was there in Jan/Feb, closing times everywhere in the Suk area were around 2am. That may have changed since then. If you get in at 11pm, you could be sitting in a gogo or bar, sipping a beer and making your pick by about 1am, sooner if you rush it.
Maybe someone could give a rundown of current closing times at some of the more user-friendly venues:
1. Nana
2. Soi Cowboy
3. Thermae
4. Biergarten
5. Nana Car Park (is this still good? it was pretty damn good when i was there in Jan/Feb, around 2-3am) This was a good spot right when everything else closed, that's when it got most active -- much cheaper than NEP and SC too
I'd give the closing times myself but not in Thailand now
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]There many well known Thai models, like Lily Koh and Thainee. Those are my favorite two, love their bodies, skin tone, just love the whole package.
Will I be able to hook up with similar looking BKK girls? Are the bar girls in NEP and surrounding areas just as pretty?[/QUOTE]Yes. I wouldn't say that ALL the bar girls in NEP and surrounding areas are just as pretty, because those two girls you mention are models. You'll see Thai Girls walking around at the airport that are babes. Most of them are just as you desire, great bodies, skin tone, etc. Just wait till you get to NANA. If you don't see a girl you want to screw within five or ten minutes or LESS, then you are blind. Just remember to pace yourself. You sound new to visiting Thailand, so just get a beautiful girl who speaks english, and do a short time with her. Don't get two girls right out of the gate. I strongly don't recommend that. Sometimes two girls work together in getting more out of you than just some wood. Get one girl, and get your feet wet that way. DO NOT tell all the girls you meet it is your first time in Bangkok. They aren't going to jump for joy for you being there. Just play it cool, and you'll be fine.
Finally, be nice to the katoeys. You DO not want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a ladyboy. I heard a story out of Phuket years ago that a naval pilot gave them a bunch of crap for being the way they are. He was drunk and boisterous. A group of katoeys came to visit him at his hotel at 4am. By 4:10am he was dead, having been thrown off the balcony of his 4th floor hotel room. I also understand that no charges were ever filed by the local police.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]There many well known Thai models, like Lily Koh and Thainee. Those are my favorite two, love their bodies, skin tone, just love the whole package.
Will I be able to hook up with similar looking BKK girls? Are the bar girls in NEP and surrounding areas just as pretty?[/QUOTE]
If you have unlimited funds and the right Thai connections you can have anything you want. However, if you are just an average Joe here for a two week vacation, you are pretty much relegated to the tourist venues in BKK or Pattaya. If you are going to compare the girls who work in the "tourist areas" to Thai models you are going to be sorely disappointed.
[QUOTE=Wendella]
Maybe someone could give a rundown of current closing times at some of the more user-friendly venues:
1. Nana
2. Soi Cowboy
3. Thermae
4. Biergarten
5. Nana Car Park (is this still good? it was pretty damn good when i was there in Jan/Feb, around 2-3am) This was a good spot right when everything else closed, that's when it got most active -- much cheaper than NEP and SC too[/QUOTE]
Soi Cowboy has been defying official closing times at some bars. A few weeks ago there was a change of police boss and earlier closng was occurring just for a short period the mamasan claimed. Would be back to extra late closing soon (e.g. later than 2AM I think if got customers).
Any way I can't see a problem. I will arrive at a similar time later this month and I expect to still find plenty of action at Soi Cowboy when I get there. Not sure about other areas.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]There many well known Thai models, like Lily Koh and Thainee. Those are my favorite two, love their bodies, skin tone, just love the whole package.
Will I be able to hook up with similar looking BKK girls? Are the bar girls in NEP and surrounding areas just as pretty?[/QUOTE]
Lily Koh doesn't sound like a Thai name. Nor does Thainee. Thats because they are fake names for Pornstars rather than models.
Koh means "Island" but has a very strange abrupt pronunciation that inexperienced westerners cannot usually say. Doesn't make a nice sounding name.
You will find girls that can compete with your two. Just not a huge percentage of them. Won't be hard to find a better body than Lily but she does have a very pretty face which will be hard to match.
Actually many Thai real models are not really exceptionally pretty, its just that they have the right hight and style.
I find few Thai television actresses to be exceptionally pretty. Perhaps westerners go for a different look to what Thais do.
So I don't don't totally agree with Retired Army, which is not unusual. You possibly will think its just about paradise or at least be reasonably satisfied. Its usually the long timers in Thailand who are the most dissatisfied.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker] Its usually the long timers in Thailand who are the most dissatisfied.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely correct. I think most visitors only see the very "surface" of Thailand, Thai society and Thai's in general. After living here for a while you get a whole different different prespective. I have the added advantage of being married to a Thai so I am exposed to a different side of Thailand that most short-term visitors are not privy to; but, I've learned to love Thailand despite its many flaws.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I find few Thai television actresses to be exceptionally pretty. Perhaps westerners go for a different look to what Thais do.
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Speak for yourself. Most of the Farang I know go for the type of girl you see on Thai TV and have tastes similar to Thais, as do I.
The "different look" that most Farang visitors prefer baffles the Thais. The question I hear the most is, "Why do Farang men like such ugly girls?" My GF, who works at a top, 5 star hotel is constantly mystified at the choice of Thai girls she sees with Farang guests.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Absolutely correct. I think most visitors only see the very "surface" of Thailand, Thai society and Thai's in general. After living here for a while you get a whole different different prespective. I have the added advantage of being married to a Thai so I am exposed to a different side of Thailand that most short-term visitors are not privy to; but, I've learned to love Thailand despite its many flaws.[/QUOTE]
absolutely correct.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Speak for yourself. Most of the Farang I know go for the type of girl you see on Thai TV and have tastes similar to Thais.
The "different look" that most Farang visitors prefer baffles the Thais. The question I hear the most is, "Why do Farang men like such ugly girls?" My GF, who works at a top, 5 star hotel is constantly mystified at the choice of Thai girls she sees with Farang guests.[/QUOTE]
And you speak for yourself. The 'gawky Chinese Thai look' that Bangkok Thais and expats such as yourself find so stunning is utterly baffling to most Western farang. It simply doesn't fit any Western stereotypes of beauty. Who's right and who's wrong? Stoopid question of course.
Do you really believe that you can change Western mens' tastes to yours with your silly 'Thais think you fancy ugly women' arguments?
And, OTH and RA, could you please stop slapping each other on the back at every opportunity? It's starting to look a little bit gay :D.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]
Do you really believe that you can change Western mens' tastes to yours with your silly 'Thais think you fancy ugly women' arguments?[/QUOTE]
No. Gawd forbid. Let the Western men stick with the girls that nobody else wants. I was just presenting the alternative. I know it's likely of little consequence to most. But, it's still funny to see guys walk around Patts and Bangers with their rent-a-dates, gloating with pride, like the cat that ate the canary, while the locals are secretly laughing at them.
I would rather the "gawky Chinese look" than the monkey-face look of the girls that many Farang seem to favour.
Anyway, I was just responding to Mick, who was making assumptions which aren't always true.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]And, OTH and RA, could you please stop slapping each other on the back at every opportunity? It's starting to look a little bit gay :D.[/QUOTE]
:D Good one.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]But, it's still funny to see guys walk around Patts and Bangers with their rent-a-dates, gloating with pride, like the cat that ate the canary, while the locals are secretly laughing at them.[/QUOTE]
In Patts, guys are often walking around with the locals' wives, which probably creates rather mixed emotions within the locals.
Don't worry for us tourists walking around Bangers with our 'Isaan skanks' and suchlike: We laugh at you and the locals. And the biggest laugh is that we get to go back to civilisation after we've had enough fun :D.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]And the biggest laugh is that we get to go back to civilisation after we've had enough fun :D.[/QUOTE]
How true. I'm just jealous, that's all. ;)
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]And, OTH and RA, could you please stop slapping each other on the back at every opportunity? It's starting to look a little bit gay :D.[/QUOTE]
I guess you would know, wouldn't you? ;)
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Don't worry for us tourists walking around Bangers with our 'Isaan skanks' and suchlike: We laugh at you and the locals. And the biggest laugh is that we get to go back to civilisation after we've had enough fun :D.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but look at what you go back to: big fat white Western women with an attitude...
Last night when I got home from work my Thai wife had a chilled beer glass waiting for me, a wonderful dinner prepared, and later she slipped into the little "black thing" I ordered from Victoria's Secret, gave me an outstanding massage followed by a toe curling BJ. Try getting a Western woman to treat you like this...
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Speak for yourself. Most of the Farang I know go for the type of girl you see on Thai TV and have tastes similar to Thais, as do I.
The "different look" that most Farang visitors prefer baffles the Thais. The question I hear the most is, "Why do Farang men like such ugly girls?" My GF, who works at a top, 5 star hotel is constantly mystified at the choice of Thai girls she sees with Farang guests.[/QUOTE]
I was speaking for myself and many other Farangs.
Your post is somewhat self contradictory.
On one hand you claim "most Farang I know" prefer Thai style and then say most Farang like ugly girls that mystifies the Thais. So the only thing "saving" you is that you don't know any of tthe Farangs who like darker skinned "ugly". But if this saves you from being self-contradictory, it seems to imply a predudice there.
Or is it really nothing to do with the looks of the girls, but their personality and the way they act.
But the "most Farang visitors prefer" seems to indicate that you and your western friends are in the minority.
I am not claiming anything here. just interpreting you.
I admit my taste is not the same as Thais and yet find many women pretty at Soapy MPs where most of the customers are Thai.
I like cute little noses which knocks out many Isaan girls with flat wide noses. I particularly hate girls with noticible nose jobs which counts out a lot of girls that Thais go for.
I don't go for wide faces, wide jaws, or round puffy faces. This knocks out a lot of Northern and chinese girls.
So my taste is quite finicky but quite different to the average guys in Pattaya also. Prefer eyes not too slanty.
I prefer slim girls rather than the slightly puffy look that Thai men often choose.
Maybe my slim narrow faced girl would be what you call a "monkey" (in your incredibily derogatory ways) but the noses are very un-monkey like.
Colour of skin is of little importance to me. Nice smooth skin is good, whether dark, brown, or light.
I would probably skip girls that are exceptionally black or exceptionally white. Both are beyond what I am used to.
Although I am not up with all the recent TV stars, I find Benz Phornchita, Teya Roger, Mint Athitaya, Sonya Couling , Phiyada, and Bongkot to be very attractive, as examples. Note there are no fake noses or wide jaws in this lot I think.
Many other actresses look quite ordinary to me, even some of the ones very popular and considered sexy. This is not strange because my taste is not exactly "Thai".
The following have O.K. looks but not that special for me:
Um Patcharapa, Ann Thongprasong, Bussakorn, Lalita (Big nose then nose job), Katriya McIntosh, Gop Suwanan, Methinee, etc. Even Paula Taylor doesn't quite do it for me.
The choice of Farang guys is not that mystifying. They take what they can get, that looks better than western girls they were previously with (this is usually not difficult to beat). Some are not so looks oriented and are going with girls that are providing a good time. O.K. The top creme of the crop are much harder to get to in a short time.
Children children, can we just leave it that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
If you turn the lights out and girl "X" gives you a stunning time in bed culminating in mind blowing orgasms. Lots of men would spend time with her, even if she looks like a bit rough, simply for the sexual pleasures to be had.
If girl "Y" is an absolute stunner, who turns all the guys heads, but she is absolutely lousy in bed. Lots of men will still go with her, purely to make others jealous of having this hot girl in tow whilst out on the town.
This is huMAN natURE. As good old Trink used to say "MANURE".
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I was speaking for myself and many other Farangs.
Your post is somewhat self contradictory.
On one hand you claim "most Farang I know" prefer Thai style and then say most Farang like ugly girls that mystifies the Thais. So the only thing "saving" you is that you don't know any of tthe Farangs who like darker skinned "ugly". But if this saves you from being self-contradictory, it seems to imply a predudice there.
Or is it really nothing to do with the looks of the girls, but their personality and the way they act.
But the "most Farang visitors prefer" seems to indicate that you and your western friends are in the minority.
I am not claiming anything here. just interpreting you.
I admit my taste is not the same as Thais and yet find many women pretty at Soapy MPs where most of the customers are Thai.
I like cute little noses which knocks out many Isaan girls with flat wide noses. I particularly hate girls with noticible nose jobs which counts out a lot of girls that Thais go for.
I don't go for wide faces, wide jaws, or round puffy faces. This knocks out a lot of Northern and chinese girls.
So my taste is quite finicky but quite different to the average guys in Pattaya also. Prefer eyes not too slanty.
I prefer slim girls rather than the slightly puffy look that Thai men often choose.
Maybe my slim narrow faced girl would be what you call a "monkey" (in your incredibily derogatory ways) but the noses are very un-monkey like.
Colour of skin is of little importance to me. Nice smooth skin is good, whether dark, brown, or light.
I would probably skip girls that are exceptionally black or exceptionally white. Both are beyond what I am used to.
Although I am not up with all the recent TV stars, I find Benz Phornchita, Teya Roger, Mint Athitaya, Sonya Couling , Phiyada, and Bongkot to be very attractive, as examples. Note there are no fake noses or wide jaws in this lot I think.
Many other actresses look quite ordinary to me, even some of the ones very popular and considered sexy. This is not strange because my taste is not exactly "Thai".
The following have O.K. looks but not that special for me:
Um Patcharapa, Ann Thongprasong, Bussakorn, Lalita (Big nose then nose job), Katriya McIntosh, Gop Suwanan, Methinee, etc. Even Paula Taylor doesn't quite do it for me.
The choice of Farang guys is not that mystifying. They take what they can get, that looks better than western girls they were previously with (this is usually not difficult to beat). Some are not so looks oriented and are going with girls that are providing a good time. O.K. The top creme of the crop are much harder to get to in a short time.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I only used the 'monkey face' reference, which I swore to myself (slap on the wrist) I would never use again to counter TT's "gawky Chinese" remark. Both are bad and shouldn't be used.
You're probably right that my friends and I are in the minority, particularly if one takes into account all the Farang who come to Thailand and live here. You're also correct that a lot of guys take what they can get. I'm sure if they had access to a wider choice, they might opt for something different, if for no other reason than a desire for variety. This is evidenced by the positive remarks I always get when I post pics, which are of a different type of TG than most Farang normally have access to, and also by the envious stares and comments I get from Farang when I'm with my GF - I actually had some American come up to me on the beach in Hua Hin and ask, "where [he] could get such a beautiful girl in Thailand".
Anyway, I didn't really want to start this war again. I hold the minority view, so will always lose the argument. Sorry, if I came off smug.
BTW, I'm sure my GF's friends are mystified she's with me, given how she looks. She could get someone a lot younger, a lot better looking and certainly a lot richer. So, go figure...
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
BTW, I'm sure my GF's friends are mystified she's with me, given how she looks. She could get someone a lot younger and a lot better looking. So, go figure...[/QUOTE]
Actually thats not really mystifying either. Some Thai girls like my GF have been badly burned by a terrible experience with a Thai man. Other's just despise the Thai man's self-centred-ness and lack of responsibility and often sponging money off their family female members who can't afford it, etc. Isn't it Thai girls who have to give support to the families?
Maybe your GF wants an intellegent, reliable and responsible man.
Random thought (I have lots of random thoughts really):
Thai men are far more likely to give Aids to their wives/girlfriends than Farangs are. Thats how trustworthy they are. I guess no Thai girl would be looking for an Opebo as a boyfriend. :D
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Yeah, but look at what you go back to: big fat white Western women with an attitude...
Last night when I got home from work my Thai wife had a chilled beer glass waiting for me, a wonderful dinner prepared, and later she slipped into the little "black thing" I ordered from Victoria's Secret, gave me an outstanding massage followed by a toe curling BJ. Try getting a Western woman to treat you like this...[/QUOTE]
I second that statement. There is nothing like the attention that a man gets from his Thai significant other. It is not systematic, mind you, and the man needs to be delivering too in a few things that the Thai lady deems important, but nothing beats being taken care of in a way that Western men have long forgotten.
I had a talk a long time ago with a friend then living in LOS about Thai women versus Farang women. I stated that Farang women are over demanding but under delivering. He countered that at least Thai women are not under delivering… He was right.
Recently went to PPII to check out a few places that I have never been to before. One of them a friend of mine had mentioned. The place was called "The Strip". It is located on the right hand side of Patpong II as you enter from Silom Rd. Its between the Barbar Club (BDSM) and Club Electric Blue.
This is a go-go type place but with a different approach/twist. As you walk in the first thing you notice are these very tall floor to ceiling silver cylinders to the left and right. Looks a bit space age. In the middle is a small dance platform with 4-5 ladies dancing and trying their hardest to attract you.
The cylinders are essentially private (circular) rooms for lap-dancing or whatever goes. At the end of the bar is where the actual bar to sit is located. The deal here is that you select a lady or two and go private. The fee system is as follows:
Private room 30 mins: 500 baht - includes nude dancing / touching
Additional Lady fee: 500 baht more for hj/bj (if you want it - not required)
Full sex: up to you and her. I was quoted 2000 bht by one girl.
Beer: 120 baht
Once you enter the room the lady will go and get a "sex kit" that is a basket of paper towels, oil etc. She will quickly strip and the show is on. I have taken two girls and both were very energetic and quite a pleasure to play with. Both provided hj and one provided hj/bj for the 500 baht extra. Both allowed me DATY which was very pleasurable for both they and I - judging by their reaction and extreme wetness!
All in all it is a tad expensive but a different way to have fun in BKK. I will go back (one girl in particular who offered take out with anal on the menu).
The girls are barfinable, but I am unsure of the barfine price. In general I avoid Patpong area but PP II is ok with this bar, SOL and Club Electric Blue being quite fun and relaxed...as opposed to most places on PP I.
Enjoy the life!
OBJECTIVE: 3, +/- 1, ladies per day, should be 19 yo, +/- 1 yr, for a week to 10 days or until multi day keeper is found.
Me: Late 40's, 6'2", 200ish, w/bag of goodies to give girls ie., candy, liquor minis, etc.
Recent BKK Experience: 10 or so week to 10 day trips in last 2 yrs. Half my life in hotels since 1900's.
TECHNIQUES: AM coffee & perusal BG soi 7, as good, or mediocre depending on standards, now as ever. Take away or go to MP. If MP then revisit BG afterwards for talent scouting & cold drink. Evening go go, nana or cowboy, grab early hope for a hit, back for 2nd if improvement is considered viable. I don't waste time w/potential tbfn haggling @price. I ask what they want, what they will/won't do end of story. If @Nana an occasional stroll out front between bar change, usually Rain 2 to Rain 4, see what supply is like, chat up any hotties. Still see previous fav Amporn/Pon @ Nana sign, now 20 w/bf rare for us to get together, she has lost perceived innocence & years seem unkind. Rain 2 is offering me a virgin server girl, cute, said 2 b 18, looks like less, only 15k baht, I can resist. Also at Rain2 #134 is fun, 20, looks much less, face like 16, has 1yo baby normally not my thing but she I could not resist. Makes small animal sounds when pounded, face of model as she smokes. Most of my favs @ Rainbow, girls 2k st, mostly no lt. Also @ Rain 2 #4 claimed I was her 1st customer of her first day at bar last week, she should be ready for another customer soon. Rain 4 still works for me as well as any better than most, I like em tiny & they have. To look at stage full of lovelies & have boned most, mission accomplished.
This place is an oldie but I had never been. My point of reference is the Star of Light on PP II.
Kangaroo Club is on the left hand side of the Soi if you enter from Silom Rd.
It is also on the upstairs level. **Attention newbies** In general AVOID upstairs bars on Patpong I - They are ripoff bars. Kangaroo is an exception.
Once upstairs the first thing I notice was how dark it was! Perhaps for good reason! After a few minutes my eyes adjusted and I could see about a dozen ladies or various ages / sizes / looks. Of course as with most BJ bars the girls here are not stunners. They are beyond sell by date. But even still there can be some cute / nice ones.
One thing that I enjoyed is the wide screen TV with porn running on it. As someone who rarely watches porn (odd right?) I found it an immediate turn on. Quickly two ladies were on me. One maybe 40. The other maybe 30. Each of course allowing me to feel them up as they molested me as well. The 40ish was wasting her time. Too many wrinkles and years of service showed on her face. I drank 2 beers (100 baht ea.) and decided to take the slender younger one to a BJ room.
The room is near the bathroom but not the bathroom (as is SOL). It was rather large with a table and a large padded - low sitting chair to sit in - all in all a 5 star luxury place compared to the naughty room at SOL!! My girl stripped naked and I played with her body awhile and then she gave a very good BJ.
BJ: 800 baht
beer: 100 baht ea. (2)
tip 100 baht
total: 1100 baht
Repeat? - probably so. But have no illusions this is not high class top end mongering. If you like a bit of dirt now and then give it a gander. Its very naughty!
[QUOTE=Seydlitz]I second that statement. There is nothing like the attention that a man gets from his Thai significant other. It is not systematic, mind you, and the man needs to be delivering too in a few things that the Thai lady deems important, but nothing beats being taken care of in a way that Western men have long forgotten.
I had a talk a long time ago with a friend then living in LOS about Thai women versus Farang women. I stated that Farang women are over demanding but under delivering. He countered that at least Thai women are not under delivering… He was right.[/QUOTE]
Like most things in life there are trade offs and compromises. There is a lot of give-and-take in a successful Thai-Farang relationship. I treat my Thai wife with respect, kindness and decency along with giving her respectability in her family's eyes and ensuring her welfare and financial security. In return she treats me like a King.
I tried doing the same with Western women and all they wanted was more and more and in return treated the dog better. At least the dog got fed regularly and occasionally got sex. If I wanted something to eat I fixed it myself and if I wanted sex I had to either do it myself or find it elsewhere. And if I went looking eslewhere you could hear the Western wife bitching a mile away. Different with the Thai wife. From the very beginning I told her that I needed sex regularly and if she didn't give it to me then I would get it elsewhere. Thai women seem to accept this as a fact of life.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Like most things in life there are trade offs and compromises. There is a lot of give-and-take in a successful Thai-Farang relationship. I treat my Thai wife with respect, kindness and decency along with giving her respectability in her family's eyes and ensuring her welfare and financial security. In return she treats me like a King.
I tried doing the same with Western women and all they wanted was more and more and in return treated the dog better. At least the dog got fed regularly and occasionally got sex. If I wanted something to eat I fixed it myself and if I wanted sex I had to either do it myself or find it elsewhere. And if I went looking eslewhere you could hear the Western wife bitching a mile away. Different with the Thai wife. From the very beginning I told her that I needed sex regularly and if she didn't give it to me then I would get it elsewhere. Thai women seem to accept this as a fact of life.[/QUOTE]
While I couldn't agree more with this, I think we have somehow got into the wrong thread. Buts its no big deal.
I have not considered having a western GF or wife for the last 15 years. I'm allergic to them. But I have to admit that some European women are more appealing than US, British, Austrailian etc. I may well be blissfully unaware of their personalities.
Maybe its easier to find a good partner in Thailand due to "deficiencies" in the local culture.
Maybe its the bad aspects of Thailand that actually make it good.
If you & a friend want to have fun w/2 girls my buddy & I recently did w/2 BG regulars. For my tastes they have been for well over a yr the 2 prime picks of the pack, Fa & Da. Both early 20s, no kids, cute, & fun. Da- darker, taller, thinner, clean shaven. Fa- shorter, lighter, plumper, her puss particularly fat & beautiful w/a small patch of peach fuzz, an unusually nice treat & one of her best assets of which she has many. They are a fine team esp that they seem to enjoy being naked w/each other, a trait not shared by many of our previous conquests. You like eating, drinking, having an orgy, hell they will even go bowling. For a price, & they seem to think they're worth a lot. They are a fine tag team, not normally my cup of tea but I've been known to dabble. Again I'm the kind of friend who will let my buddy take care of the tab so I'm not sure their minimum rate. I think my pal gave 10k for the pair LT plus expenses that were probably as much & they seemed content. Will probably only take the 2 w/a friend as it seems a shame to break up a set & listening to their conversation w/o someone I can converse w/gets old.
Had a quickie w/another BG worker, New I think was her name. 22, thin, cute smile w/an odd tooth. She has a 1 yo which would normally be a deal breaker but I thought wtf the top of her head was not hard to look at. As it turns out abs were flat & hard, surprisingly pretty puss, I would probably not have guessed she had a baby, I've done worse. Downside was as I am about to give her lunch, first squirt- she is done, which was only at 1/3 the load & not overly satisfying, will not repeat but if you give her a fuck I gather that would not be a problem.
Many tired hags there, & many the same I see year after year, some never seem to get any action so why they live there I dunno but I gather they will boom boom for a beer. A quarter of the lot I couldn't do for 100k baht.
Maybe better in hotel section but my 2b. This unit rocks- 2 private bedrooms, each w/private baths, 1/w big jacuzz. Big communal area seating for at12, kitchen, outdoor patio w/another big hot tub, putting green that some drunk asshole turned into a driving tee, sorry if that was you windscreen. Luckily he only had 3 balls. So these guys live large & I'm their wingman & point them towards these accommodations. So if you got to Rainbow 4 early last week & saw guys throwing stacks of 20s at the girls, dispensing shots to whomever, that was us. Bottle quickly consumed, 10k in 20s into the wind, wonder if any of the girls want to go w/us to party LT? Only 7 made the cut, 3 per friend & my 1. Back to suite, remove clothes, fill tubs, drink 6 pack of champagne, too much of a good thing? Video only 99.99
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill]This place is an oldie but I had never been. My point of reference is the Star of Light on PP II.
Kangaroo Club is on the left hand side of the Soi if you enter from Silom Rd.
It is also on the upstairs level. **Attention newbies** In general AVOID upstairs bars on Patpong I - They are ripoff bars. Kangaroo is an exception.
Once upstairs the first thing I notice was how dark it was! Perhaps for good reason! After a few minutes my eyes adjusted and I could see about a dozen ladies or various ages / sizes / looks. Of course as with most BJ bars the girls here are not stunners. They are beyond sell by date. But even still there can be some cute / nice ones.
One thing that I enjoyed is the wide screen TV with porn running on it. As someone who rarely watches porn (odd right?) I found it an immediate turn on. Quickly two ladies were on me. One maybe 40. The other maybe 30. Each of course allowing me to feel them up as they molested me as well. The 40ish was wasting her time. Too many wrinkles and years of service showed on her face. I drank 2 beers (100 baht ea.) and decided to take the slender younger one to a BJ room.
The room is near the bathroom but not the bathroom (as is SOL). It was rather large with a table and a large padded - low sitting chair to sit in - all in all a 5 star luxury place compared to the naughty room at SOL!! My girl stripped naked and I played with her body awhile and then she gave a very good BJ.
BJ: 800 baht
beer: 100 baht ea. (2)
tip 100 baht
total: 1100 baht
Repeat? - probably so. But have no illusions this is not high class top end mongering. If you like a bit of dirt now and then give it a gander. Its very naughty![/QUOTE]
Hi One Tree Hill,
A couple of questions, I was in the Kangaroo bar maybe 12 months ago now, you could get FS onsite for 1300 baht or barfine I think was 600 baht and 2000 for the girl has that changed.
Second as you get to the top of the stairs you have a choice, to the left of the bar is the toilet and back room. To the right was another room with a lounge in it. This room did have a door on it at one stage but last time I was there it did not, is it still there? you can get a bj/fs in this room if you don't mind people looking through the open door. It also had a window so the lady bartender could watch too.
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill]This place is an oldie but I had never been. My point of reference is the Star of Light on PP II.
Kangaroo Club is on the left hand side of the Soi if you enter from Silom Rd.<cut>[/QUOTE]
Just to be clear,
Kangaroo club is in Soi Patpong I (rather than Soi PP II).
Some girls have super tiny pussies. Thats why they work at a blow-job bar. BJs don't put a girl out of action easily.
Ultra Pilot should realise there is a "Bangkok Hotels" thread.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Yeah, but look at what you go back to: big fat white Western women with an attitude...
[/QUOTE]
1) Western women are not all fat.
2) Not all Western women have an attitude problem.
3) Western women are far more attractive than Thai women (in general), the problem is that they refuse to go with old men for 1000 baht.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]3) Western women are far more attractive than Thai women (in general), the problem is that they refuse to go with old men for 1000 baht.[/QUOTE]
Leaving aside the pointless debate about subjective aesthetic preference, I will say that I've many times had a BBBJ for $20 (600 baht), and sex for $30-40 (900-1,200 baht) back in the US. Of course the woman was picked up off the street and the services were provided in the car.
[QUOTE=Easy2007]
If girl "Y" is an absolute stunner, who turns all the guys heads, but she is absolutely lousy in bed. Lots of men will still go with her, purely to make others jealous of having this hot girl in tow whilst out on the town.
This is huMAN natURE. As good old Trink used to say "MANURE".[/QUOTE]
Easy, just to let you know, I'm a guy who goes consisently for Y but doesn't care a lick what other guys think or feel -- I'm almost always totally focused on the girl, and if anyone is looking at us, that's something I don't even pick up on or think about. I'm with you 3/4 of the way, except that you must be the X man, and haven't fully appreciated that there's more to the picture for guys who like Y. I'm not saying you're totally wrong, I'm sure you're correct that there are guys who fit the description you give regarding Y. I'm just saying there's also another category of guys who simply just want girl Y and, like me, just get a lot more turned on by Y. And less turned on by an X even if she is a better performer. I mean, there's guys who get turned on by toe-licking, or sex with animals, or all kinds of things -- so it shouldn't be hard to imagine there'd be guys who genuinely get turned on by beautiful women.
It's interesting that guys who tend to go for X often say that the ones who go for Y are full of shit, or like you say, just do it for the attention of other guys (which is what I would think of as a bullshit motive). Meanwhile the guys who go for Y would look at the X guys and think they're full of shit [B] in denial [/B]since obviously their girl is so clearly unattractive, they must be just pretending to be attracted to her, lying to themselves.
Me, I'd say chances are we just have different styles. Yours works for you, but doesn't do anything for me, and I bet it also goes vice versa. In a weaker moment, I would probably think to myself "god, how can that guy go with that horrible looking girl!?!" But if I think about it rationally, I realize I'm being immature by thinking that way.
Wendella,
I think you are misquoting my original post. I did not say the world is black and white, and there are only cat X and cat Y.
This was merely an example to show that what works for some, does not for others and vicky versa.
There are many categories with which you can divide humans into, and certainly its not just two.
Ideally, you want "Z" who looks great but is as dirty as hell in the sack. But they are hard to find, and nearly always trouble for those that try to tame them. In my opinion.
[QUOTE=Bob Down]Hi One Tree Hill,
A couple of questions, I was in the Kangaroo bar maybe 12 months ago now, you could get FS onsite for 1300 baht or barfine I think was 600 baht and 2000 for the girl has that changed.
Second as you get to the top of the stairs you have a choice, to the left of the bar is the toilet and back room. To the right was another room with a lounge in it. This room did have a door on it at one stage but last time I was there it did not, is it still there? you can get a bj/fs in this room if you don't mind people looking through the open door. It also had a window so the lady bartender could watch too.[/QUOTE]
The room I used was to the LEFT. Yes there is a larger room to the right... as mentioned ot me by the ladies..not sure about the door etc. I do recall looking that direction and seeing a morror..so possibly and open room (with view from bar).
Also failed to mention that the BJ was BBBJTCIM
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]1) Western women are not all fat.
2) Not all Western women have an attitude problem.
3) Western women are far more attractive than Thai women (in general), the problem is that they refuse to go with old men for 1000 baht.[/QUOTE]
Enjoy your Western women, more Thai women for the rest of us.
So not the face of an angel but no bag required either. This girl more akin to devil than angel anyway. She claims to be 22, my guess a little more. 41kg, no kids, remarkably small everything, can cover hole w/thumbprint. Abundance of enthusiasm and sexuality. Photos, she knows how to work the camera, set up your video tripod and have plenty of tape/memory. You like it semi rough, sucked hard, noisy she could be for you. I continually have to reign her in, easy baby. She for me has been a wonderful partner open to whatever not that I'm overly fetish oriented. Exceptionally long tongue and knows how to use it. DFK not normally my thing but I hope the Gin may kill more than brain cells and my common sense which I seemed to have misplaced. Gung ho for you and your GF. Would probably handle 2 guys, easily 2 of me. You better eat your Wheaties! Today I'm not seeing or walking too straight. 3 days w/her I throw in the towel. This girl is nucking futs. Scary side is her offer to BB but if I were to get that drunk I'm pretty sure I couldn't perform. Maybe it was only an offer to me but I never feel that lucky. Enjoy her I sure did. Rainbow 4 #189
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill]The room I used was to the LEFT. Yes there is a larger room to the right... as mentioned ot me by the ladies..not sure about the door etc. I do recall looking that direction and seeing a morror..so possibly and open room (with view from bar).
Also failed to mention that the BJ was BBBJTCIM[/QUOTE]
I always took the larger room to the right to accomodate multiple girls.
You could see out a little bit but no could really see in properly. Too dark.
But "Naa Daan!" (lacking any shame or modesty) like me don't care anyway. It was the girls who were too shy.
[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot] Enjoy her I sure did. [/QUOTE]
Yoda (Jedi master),
Welcome to the ISG.
Kept us in suspense till the very end to find out it was Rainbow 4.
[QUOTE=Easy2007]Wendella,
I think you are misquoting my original post. I did not say the world is black and white, and there are only cat X and cat Y.
Ideally, you want "Z" who looks great but is as dirty as hell in the sack. But they are hard to find, and nearly always trouble for those that try to tame them. In my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Ah ok sorry. Misunderstood then. Yeah, next time I'm in Thailand, I guess we can fight over Z. ;-)
Tried to go to NEP tonight but it was closed due to a fire, I think. Got to the soi around 930 or so and saw nothing but cops and fire fighters. All the neon signs were dead so crossed to the opposite to check out Beer Garden. Place was dead too, the FL were pretty [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor nasty. There was a sign by entrance of " No service to lady boys" but the that came to sit next to me and smiled looked like a katoey. Maybe security was doing their job so I drank half my Singha and headed out. Got back to the hotel and decided to save my energy for Nataree tomorrow. Will post report in Massage section. If anyone was here tonight at NEP or know what happened, please provide some info.
[QUOTE=Mauldid]Tried to go to NEP tonight but it was closed due to a fire, I think. Got to the soi around 930 or so and saw nothing but cops and fire fighters. All the neon signs were dead so crossed to the opposite to check out Beer Garden. Place was dead too, the FL were pretty [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor nasty. There was a sign by entrance of " No service to lady boys" but the that came to sit next to me and smiled looked like a katoey. Maybe security was doing their job so I drank half my Singha and headed out. Got back to the hotel and decided to save my energy for Nataree tomorrow. Will post report in Massage section. If anyone was here tonight at NEP or know what happened, please provide some info.[/QUOTE]
Here are some things I found about it googling:
[quote=jeffinbangkok on another Forum on May 5 at 22:44:57]A fire broke out and caused quite a happening as Nana Plaza area revelers spilled out of bars that had had their electric cut out. The ladders of the brave firefighters went up to the second floor of the plaza at what looked to be the location of Mandarin Bar. Local residents, thinking their electric would be out for quite some time, tried to buy candles but alas both the 7 11 and Family Mart were without power for their cash registers. A good fire is one that is put out quickly and only causes some broken doors and glasses. This fire looked to be that kind of fire. The electric went back on at 10:30 p.m. and the Chat Moon Kohn Holiday crowd dispersed from the scene. [/quote]
[quote=sunbeams on another forum on May 5 at 23:47:12]For a small fire like this, I was amused by the whole army of civil defense fire engines and rescue workers. From my humble abode in Soi 3, I could at least count 10 fire engines whisking along the soi.
Curious as I was, I took a short stroll to check out what happened. You'll be amazed at what speculation comes out from those who aren't sure of the real story. Some hilarious things I heard on the way include:
- Bomb threat at J.W. Marriot
- Shell petrol kiosk exploded (as the electricity was disrupted, some could have assumed that)
- Explosion on Soi 4 wiping out several pubs and discos
Anyway, I have to give great kudos to the Thai fire department in dispatching their fighters so quickly. But sending 10 fire engines? Don't you think it's way too much of an overkill? Just like breaking a butterfly on the wheel.
So were there any casualties? [/quote]
NEP is has always been a fire hazard with all those overhead wires at the entrance but to me it is more of a safety hazard to patrons with the single entrance and exit. Hopefully no one got hurt and one day they will realize what a hazard that place is for everyone who dares to set foot in there.
"But sending 10 fire engines? Don't you think it's way too much of an overkill?"
It's because of who owns the property.
If you think NEP is a fire hazard, check out 4x4 in Rio.
But who wants to live forever?
Spent five days in Bangkok over the course of a few weeks, on my most recent trip.
Stayed in my usual digs, at Majestic Suites for the first stint, and at Grand President on the way back, Both totally acceptable. Majestic is the basic, GP offers a little more luxury.
After checking this board and others about where to go (it’s been four years since my last BKK visit), I checked out NEP and Cowboy as a near-newbie visitor.
In NEP, I’d heard good things about Rainbow 3, but I only saw one do-able girl in several visits. Rainbow 4 was exactly as described…”What your name. Where you from. 3000 bhat short time”, very business like. Mandarin had some lovlies, and I took one out LT. Very nice for the night but turned into a starfish in the morning.
Soi Cowboy was much better!
There are many good reviews for Rawhide and Cowboy, but in both cases I saw two smoking hot girls and a bunch of fuglies, Maybe my timing was bad but I wasn’t impressed.
Tilac had one or two cuties, but it wasn’t there for me.
Sexy Central was Shark and Baccara.
Shark Bar led the city in beautiful babes, and certainly in silicon content. You’re doomed to overpriced short-time with these girls, but they’re worth it. I took two out of here, and they were both friendly and performed well. One was a bleach-blond, enhanced-breast piece (Eow?) but she was friendly and accommodating, those large things were expertly executed and natural to my hands and she provided wonderful service. Second was a tiny perfect thing (don’t remember her name but if you’re there you’ll know. No.18?), again friendly and did me well.
Shark was the opposite of the worst. Yes, overpriced and only short-time for the beauties, but the girls are very friendly and service good.
Baccara has more cuties than you can count. Upstairs and downstairs is all good, I only took one girl out (amazingly), but Ban was my best experience of the trip. An Energeizer Bunny personality who could not do enough to please her man.
Ok I do RTFF, but I am very curious to know if any expats or master mongers know where I can find a non-Thai WG? I am not interested in traveling tourist hotspots, but more in Black, and Exotic booty and breast girls.
I know this is the Thai forum, but I found that I was craving some curves and variety during my last few Thailand experiences.
Sorry if this offends the "only Asian lovers", but I am sure I am not alone.
Very much appreciate the contributions of all of you, and this sites existence.
Cheers
Hummer
[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Ok I do RTFF, but I am very curious to know if any expats or master mongers know where I can find a non-Thai WG? I am not interested in traveling tourist hotspots, but more in Black, and Exotic booty and breast girls.
I know this is the Thai forum, but I found that I was craving some curves and variety during my last few Thailand experiences.
Sorry if this offends the "only Asian lovers", but I am sure I am not alone.
Very much appreciate the contributions of all of you, and this sites existence.
Cheers
Hummer[/QUOTE]
Didn't read too hard or search too well.... just recently there was posts about African's outside Grace. And that's just off the top of my head.... OK maybe that is a little harsh so sorry... but search Grace I think that is where they mostly hang out lately.
I know I saw some in CM2 (which surprised the heck out of me as usually they are only russians or such in there). And I saw some walking soi 3 and 4 last trip.
Tansak TV is correct!
Soi 3 (especially the area around and infront of the Grace Hotel) has "sometimes" Nigerian Working Girls and a few Russian/Uzbeks
Soi 3 is also Mikes Place, go to the top floor and they will show you a conference room with Russians and Uzbeks
I have even been offered some Indian girls while walking soi 3, but the Thai guy was weird so I did not ask more.
Soi 4 Rajah hotel has some (not all the time) Russians/Uzbeks in the lobby area
Soi 7/1 There are a few Russians/Uzbeks sitting at the outdoor Coffee World/Sandwich place
Soi 11 at the coffee shop before you reach the Ambassador hotel are a few Russians/uzbeks
Cm2 is also a very popular non Thai P4P pickup
now, I think it is also important to note that not all of these non P4P girls are good looking or even young, but there are a few that are really worth it
Good luck
Possibly wrong thread, but here goes.
A mate of mine living here and I had a couple of non WG to entertain the other night. Where to go.
A few phone calls before we met up with them and we decided to go to Tawandang Brew House in Rama 3. The place is quite large maybe 700 people inside, with food and own brews being the focus. Fantastic entertainment, with western cover bands, Thai soft pop, a bit of theatre and magic show thrown in. Corny and I never would have expected I would have enjoyed the place so much!
The crowd was 99% Thai and the bill was about 3000, but smiles on the girls when we said this is where we were going that night was priceless. And the night that followed equally so.
Highly recommended!
A few days back I visited Pink Massage. I was really in the mood for a soapie but the only one I found was Darlings. The lineup was poor and the price was high so I moved on. I found Zakura or whatever it's called that's mentioned on the board quite a bit but the lady wouldn't let me choose the girl. So I went next door to Pink since I couldn't find anything else after a couple of hours of walking. As these things work though, the next day when I wasn't even looking I kept seeing MPs everywhere.
I choose Pink because they had ball massage on the menu. I asked if I could pick the girl and she said yes and brought 4 upfront. Unlike Darlings, the four ranged from semi-hot to super-hot. All were young, slim and pretty. I choose the super-hot one. Her name is Yoko. As often happens, looks is not an indication of service. She was pleasant enough, but the session was not hot. First she disappeared for a while to shower. Then she had me shower off alone which was a major disappointment since I paid extra for the bath option hoping that would ensure that she shower me off at least. The massage was meager as was the ball massage which was basically a HJ. She said that the HJ was included in the price I paid as long as I didn't finish. But if I did it would be 1000 baht. Expensive for a HJ in my opinion and I was going to spite her by not finishing. But 30 minutes of this and I had to cum so I negotiated a BJ for 1000 baht. That was meager as well so I satisfied myself by face fucking her. I just grabbed her head and went at it. She could have pushed me away at any point, but she didn't. She did gag a little after I pulled out. I then showered off again alone and still had 30 minutes left so she insisted on giving me a Thai massage since she didn't want me to leave before time was up.
I got the gel massage option, 1.5 hours for 900baht. The ball massage, 30 minutes for 250baht. And finally the bath for 100 baht.
So I got 2 hours of meager but pleasantly offered peformance for 1250 baht + 1000 baht tip. Not worth it in my opinion. That's about $70. Not cheap considering I can get much much better performance in China for about $12.50. $70 in China is close to giving you a 5 star soapie with your own room with big screen TV and snacks.
Overall I've been really disappointed with my paid sessions in Thailand. Expensive with poor performance. Thailand isn't worth it as a P4P destination anymore. There are much better places to go in the world if you want to pay. For freebie non-pro action though, Thailand is near the top.
[QUOTE=JustGotBack]A few days back I visited Pink Massage.
She said that the HJ was included in the price I paid as long as I didn't finish. But if I did it would be 1000 baht. Expensive for a HJ in my opinion and I was going to spite her by not finishing. But 30 minutes of this and I had to cum so I negotiated a BJ for 1000 baht.
I got the gel massage option, 1. 5 hours for 900baht. The ball massage, 30 minutes for 250baht. And finally the bath for 100 baht.
So I got 2 hours of meager but pleasantly offered peformance for 1250 baht + 1000 baht tip. Not worth it in my opinion. That's about $70.
Not cheap considering I can get much much better performance in China for about $12. 50. $70 in China is close to giving you a 5 star soapie with your own room with big screen TV and snacks.
Overall I've been really disappointed with my paid sessions in Thailand. Expensive with poor performance. Thailand isn't worth it as a P4P destination anymore. There are much better places to go in the world if you want to pay. For freebie non-pro action though, Thailand is near the top. [/QUOTE]You negotiated a BJ for 1000? After you paid what you did. Yes not cheap, but it appears you picked the wrong place, and did not negotiate properly.
Thailand is much cheaper than China. Travel to both extensively.
Read the board here, and go to the recommended places, and negotiate to the going rate.
Nic, that was very informative.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Soi 4 Rajah hotel has some (not all the time) Russians/Uzbeks in the lobby area[/QUOTE]Actually, at Rajah you're supposed to look for the Thai pimp (they always hang out in the lobby and make themselves fairly obvious). He'll take you upstairs to see the girls (usually two or three rooms -- if you don't like the first one, ask to see more). They're rather flaky on the price, but if you're polite and stand your ground, you can do it for 2500 (or less, but I never managed). Girls look great (way better than at Grace), but service is hit-and-miss (from decent to worst-ever in Bangkok). It's OK to just take a look, though they don't appreciate the foot traffic.
In addition, if you like Chinese, there are always a few walkers around Yaowarat (particularly area around Yaow Soi 6/Phadung Dao, the soi with the popular seafood place at the corner). They do count as foreign -- sometimes speak neither Thai nor English (but 500 baht does the trick!).
[QUOTE=Mark17]You negotiated a BJ for 1000? After you paid what you did. Yes not cheap, but it appears you picked the wrong place, and did not negotiate properly.
Thailand is much cheaper than China. Travel to both extensively.
Read the board here, and go to the recommended places, and negotiate to the going rate.[/QUOTE]
Be specific. Exactly what can you get where and for what price? Otherwise sounds like idle speculation.
The guy you were criticising was specific! ;)
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]Nic, that was very informative.
Actually, at Rajah you're supposed to look for the Thai pimp (they always hang out in the lobby and make themselves fairly obvious). He'll take you upstairs to see the girls (usually two or three rooms -- if you don't like the first one, ask to see more). They're rather flaky on the price, but if you're polite and stand your ground, you can do it for 2500 (or less, but I never managed). Girls look great (way better than at Grace), but service is hit-and-miss (from decent to worst-ever in Bangkok). It's OK to just take a look, though they don't appreciate the foot traffic.[/QUOTE]Does the middle-man also provide a room in this hotel?
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]In addition, if you like Chinese, there are always a few walkers around Yaowarat (particularly area around Yaow Soi 6/Phadung Dao, the soi with the popular seafood place at the corner). They do count as foreign -- sometimes speak neither Thai nor English (but 500 baht does the trick!).[/QUOTE]I think I have seen a few in this area, but they were rather unattractive, to say the least. Anyway, they are not comparable to the stunning PRC-girls in Singapore. Or did I miss something?
[QUOTE=Mark17]You negotiated a BJ for 1000? After you paid what you did. Yes not cheap, but it appears you picked the wrong place, and did not negotiate properly.[/QUOTE]
1,000 is the going rate for BJ at Oilies (like Pink, Orient, ThonglorII, Angel...). Also, keep in mind there is no wrong place, don't blame the place if the girl is lousy.
In my opinion, I also think you overpaid and should have read the Forum a little better: Mick created a magnificent Soapy guide that should have guided you in the right direction.
There is a simple guide to Oily massages and its easy to remember.
500B = HJ
1000B = BJ
1500B = FS
Also, when you go in, ingore all the rubbish about ball massage and all that crap, its total nonsense.
Pay for an oil massage if you want oil. Pay for a gel massage if you want gel. (The difference being gel is easier to wash off, so less chance of being "discovered" if you are going to meet your other half later in the day).
Do not pay extra for "balls massage" or anything else, just pay the house the standard rates.
When the girl flips you over and massages your front, she will ask if you want "special".
At this point, do not be shy, tell her what you want. Eg by hand, blow job, or "everything". If you say "everything" she will know its FS and therefore 1500B for her.
Some places will not offer FS, and so its a HJ or BJ.
Follow those guidelines in any oily and you will not go far wrong.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]1, 000 is the going rate for BJ at Oilies (like Pink, Orient, ThonglorII, Angel.). Also, keep in mind there is no wrong place, don't blame the place if the girl is lousy.
In my opinion, I also think you overpaid and should have read the Forum a little better: Mick created a magnificent Soapy guide that should have guided you in the right direction. [/QUOTE]
paid a visit to harlem. it's right across the river from the train station. you'll see neon and a nifty wood piece of artwork in front. it's by maichai trit.
nothing to write home about. they charge 1200 for fs but there's a "drink" fee of another 80 baht. a few ladies in the fishbowl. some are lookers. i think the lowest rung is 1000 baht. you get 1 hr 20 mins, which is just about what i usually ned. if anyone has any ideas on how to speed things up please let me know.
typical massage, bath, fs. girl was reasonably enthusiatic. not much else to say.
[QUOTE=Neufie]Possibly wrong thread, but here goes.
A mate of mine living here and I had a couple of non WG to entertain the other night. Where to go.
A few phone calls before we met up with them and we decided to go to Tawandang Brew House in Rama 3. The place is quite large maybe 700 people inside, with food and own brews being the focus. Fantastic entertainment, with western cover bands, Thai soft pop, a bit of theatre and magic show thrown in. Corny and I never would have expected I would have enjoyed the place so much!
The crowd was 99% Thai and the bill was about 3000, but smiles on the girls when we said this is where we were going that night was priceless. And the night that followed equally so.
Highly recommended![/QUOTE]I would say that Tawandeng German Brew House is one of the best places in Thailand for a night out.
Get yourself in a taxi and say Tawandeng Long Beer german param sam.
I have never met a taxi driver that dose not know it.
I was taken there many years ago and I have been going there at least once a month ever since, even my wife has a membership card.
Great beer, great food, great entertainment.
I have been taken and gone to real high end places in Bangkok and thought, what a waste of money, I am paying for the arty chair I am sitting on and the four plates widely placed on the wall. I am not saying that I do not like the more expensive end either as I am regular at places like Phillip's and Rossini's but I know the premium I am paying there is not just going on the interesting plastic fish in the toilet.
In Tawandeng even though it is not the cheapest you are not paying for location or the arty design, you are paying for good home brewed beer and great food. The show is not the best in town either and do not expect 100's of sexy women on stage more a set of older musicians and a old westerner dude playing the piano. The music performance level is better than what you would get in a hotel lobby but not as good as what you would get in a real upscale live venue. The main band itself is large and is made up of local instruments and western internments including a small brass section. Guest singers come in later in the night and they have had magic acts and even circus acts.
I would say it has to be a must for anyone that wants a none P4P night out.
I have taken many of my customers and visiting friends there and out of all them,I am guessing more than 50, only 1 said they did not like it. The reason he gave was something like, it was beneath him and it was not up market enough.
You will not be the only westerner in there. When I first started going there it was really only me and who ever I took but over time it has got more popular with none Thai's. The Reason I like it so much if I am honest is I think it is one of, or the only place in Bangkok now that you can get a nice beer.
From me and almost everyone I know 5/5.
As they have 2 locations make sure you do not go to the one on Petaburi road as it is nothing like the same.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I have been here less than 24 hrs. and my dick is raw already. I had three different ladies, young (19-20) tiny one LT from Rainbow 4, older (29) super tiny ST Morning/Night Bar, and a older (35) skinny soapy massage with FS, some hidden place that my tuk-tuk driver took me.
I paid a tuk-tuk 50B and he took me around for about three hours and showed me all I needed to know about BKK.
A lot of the mongers I have seen here are some pathetic looking blokes. Some are down right goofy and dirty looking. One guy I saw today was a dollar short of mongoloid looking. What's up with so many guys with yellow crooked teeth??? Not complaining because that makes it soo much easier for me to get the fine little brown fucking machines.
Being my first time here in BKK I will say some of your guys advice about this and that is really overrated. I think many of you exagerate the realities in order to justify your existance on this forum. A lot of crap is put out on ISG and I think in comes from those who just don't know how to assimilate in foriegn country.
Later.[/QUOTE]
PH,
You paid more than 50 baht for the Tuk-Tuk tour. That Soapy Massage, "hidden joint" that he took you to, probably gave the driver a nice kick back. They don't make any money driving you around for 50 baht. The gas alone will eat most if not all of that up. They make the money on the kickbacks. He probably made 300 to 500 baht off you, on that one stop. I can imagine the type of Soapy that he took you to and what other stops you made. The Soapy probably took 2 hours of the 3 that he had you, so there must have been a bar or two, or some other stop involved too.
AT2
[quote=capn spudz]paid a visit to harlem. it's right across the river from the train station. you'll see neon and a nifty wood piece of artwork in front. it's by maichai trit.
nothing to write home about. they charge 1200 for fs but there's a "drink" fee of another 80 baht. a few ladies in the fishbowl. some are lookers. i think the lowest rung is 1000 baht. you get 1 hr 20 mins, which is just about what i usually ned. if anyone has any ideas on how to speed things up please let me know.
typical massage, bath, fs. girl was reasonably enthusiatic. not much else to say.[/quote]
this place is now called "the cleopatra" as you can see on the sign outside i think.
"speed things up"??? what things???
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I have been here less than 24 hrs. and my dick is raw already. I had three different ladies, young (19-20) tiny one LT from Rainbow 4, older (29) super tiny ST Morning/Night Bar, and a older (35) skinny soapy massage with FS, some hidden place that my tuk-tuk driver took me.
I paid a tuk-tuk 50B and he took me around for about three hours and showed me all I needed to know about BKK.
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Being my first time here in BKK I will say some of your guys advice about this and that is really overrated. I think many of you exagerate the realities in order to justify your existance on this forum. A lot of crap is put out on ISG and I think in comes from those who just don't know how to assimilate in foriegn country.
Later.[/QUOTE]
So you wouldn't have known, without the forum, which bar (Rainbow 4) was better.
Most of us know that we have much to learn. We don't want a Tuk Tuk driver to take us to a rip-off place like Vilunda/Oscar/Angara or Cupidy or J One with large kick backs paid to the driver. We want a better priced place with nice pretty girls usually aged 18 to 25 (or maybe to 30).
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze] A lot of crap is put out on ISG and I think in comes from those who just don't know how to assimilate in foriegn country.[/QUOTE]
Well, geez, then. Tell us oh wise one, how to assimilate to a "foriegn" country since you apparently know everything there is to know, now after your very first visit. (It's foreign, btw).
The term "little brown fucking machines" is derogatory. Don't use it.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I have been here less than 24 hrs...<edited> I paid a tuk-tuk 50B and he took me around for about three hours and showed me all I needed to know about BKK... <edited> A lot of the mongers I have seen here are some pathetic looking blokes... <edited> I think many of you exagerate the realities in order to justify your existance on this forum. A lot of crap is put out on ISG and I think in comes from those who just don't know how to assimilate in foriegn country.
Later.[/QUOTE]
Dude, you are laughable. In Thailand less than 24 hours and you managed to already disrespect your fellow mongers and the Thai Working girls, all the while getting a new asshole from our beloved TukTuk drivers LOL, what a great way to start your Holiday.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I have been here less than 24 hrs. and my dick is raw already...[/QUOTE]You're obviously a class act. Next trip go somewhere else. Bangkok has enough "raw" dickheads already! LOL
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I have been here less than 24 hrs. and my dick is raw already. I had three different ladies, young (19-20) tiny one LT from Rainbow 4, older (29) super tiny ST Morning/Night Bar, and a older (35) skinny soapy massage with FS, some hidden place that my tuk-tuk driver took me.
I paid a tuk-tuk 50B and he took me around for about three hours and showed me all I needed to know about BKK.
A lot of the mongers I have seen here are some pathetic looking blokes. Some are down right goofy and dirty looking. One guy I saw today was a dollar short of mongoloid looking. What's up with so many guys with yellow crooked teeth??? Not complaining because that makes it soo much easier for me to get the fine little brown fucking machines.
Being my first time here in BKK I will say some of your guys advice about this and that is really overrated. I think many of you exagerate the realities in order to justify your existance on this forum. A lot of crap is put out on ISG and I think in comes from those who just don't know how to assimilate in foriegn country.
Later.[/QUOTE]So you've been in Bangkok for 24 hours and a tuk-tuk driver showed you all you needed to know about Bangkok in three hours? Dude. I about fell out of my chair reading your pathetic report. Weren't you the one who was practically begging for information about a week ago, about getting in late, and would you be able to score? And some of the guys here (including me)took the time to answer you, to help you out, and then you come back and talk about some of the mongers you have seen with yellow crooked teeth? Are you stupid man? Did you ask them if they were "mongers" ? I'll bet you did, didn't you. I'll bet those thai condoms fit you real good too.
I've been to Bangkok and all through Thailand about 8 times for anywhere from 20 days to 60 days at a time, and I still don't know everything about Bangkok. You did it from a tuk-tuk driver (he must have spoke perfect English, because WE know YOU don't speak Thai at all).
What particular advice did you get that you think is overrated? What information did you get that you thought was exxagerated?
Here's how it is - You're a little fish in a big ocean of a city mate. I bet you fall in love with a bar girl while you there. I hope you do. FISH ON!
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PH
You have some choices from here.
1. Get in TuKTuk, go have lunch at Sukhumvit Soi 7 Subway tomorrow, report back to us in detail about it, just to show your true mastery of the situation.
2. Join emm! become a TukTuk driver - you may have passed an unwritten aptitude test.
3. Fly home straight away and resume jerking off all over yourself.
Each of these options would elevate you in our eyes after this post.
Much to learn, grasshopper! May Buddha protect you.
BSK
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I have been here less than 24 hrs. and my dick is raw already. I had three different ladies, young (19-20) tiny one LT from Rainbow 4, older (29) super tiny ST Morning/Night Bar, and a older (35) skinny soapy massage with FS, some hidden place that my tuk-tuk driver took me.
I paid a tuk-tuk 50B and he took me around for about three hours and showed me all I needed to know about BKK.
A lot of the mongers I have seen here are some pathetic looking blokes. Some are down right goofy and dirty looking. One guy I saw today was a dollar short of mongoloid looking. What's up with so many guys with yellow crooked teeth??? Not complaining because that makes it soo much easier for me to get the fine little brown fucking machines.
Being my first time here in BKK I will say some of your guys advice about this and that is really overrated. I think many of you exagerate the realities in order to justify your existance on this forum. A lot of crap is put out on ISG and I think in comes from those who just don't know how to assimilate in foriegn country.
Later.[/QUOTE]
The missing detail is the soapy cost 3000B (750B kick back for the Tuk Tuk driver).
They also went shopping, and the Tuk Tuk driver took him to see this "hidden" gem dealer and he got some very cheap ruby and emeralds for only a few thousand dollars (Tuk Tuk driver kick back a good few hundred dollars).
They went shopping in PatPong and the Tuk Tuk driver got him lots of super savings (so much so the Tuk Tuk driver went back later to collect commissions from the stall owners).
LOL.
If you want to write shit, then at least start with some facts that people might believe. Like. The Tuk Tuk driver took me all around Bangkok what I wanted to see, it took 6 hours due to the traffic, and the cheeky git wanted 1000B but I got him down to 800B. Etc. LOL
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I have been here less than 24 hrs. and my dick is raw already. I had three different ladies, young (19-20) tiny one LT from Rainbow 4, older (29) super tiny ST Morning/Night Bar, and a older (35) skinny soapy massage with FS, some hidden place that my tuk-tuk driver took me.
I paid a tuk-tuk 50B and he took me around for about three hours and showed me all I needed to know about BKK.
A lot of the mongers I have seen here are some pathetic looking blokes. Some are down right goofy and dirty looking. One guy I saw today was a dollar short of mongoloid looking. What's up with so many guys with yellow crooked teeth??? Not complaining because that makes it soo much easier for me to get the fine little brown fucking machines.
Being my first time here in BKK I will say some of your guys advice about this and that is really overrated. I think many of you exagerate the realities in order to justify your existance on this forum. A lot of crap is put out on ISG and I think in comes from those who just don't know how to assimilate in foriegn country.
Later.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]... some hidden place that my tuk-tuk driver took me.
I paid a tuk-tuk 50B and he took me around for about three hours and showed me all I needed to know about BKK.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, 50 baht for three hours; sure, why not?
What an idiot!
Did the tuk-tuk driver also take you to a "friends" jewelry store where they will give you a "special" deal? Or perhaps, some suits...
[quote=mick licker]this place is now called "the cleopatra" as you can see on the sign outside i think.
"speed things up"??? what things???[/quote]nevermind. i was on a medication that made things happen "fast" and usually had to double wrap just to enjoy the experience. since the last time i've switched meds for my back and last time i did the same at cleopatra's and much to my dismay i wound up using almost all my time. looks my sensitivity is back to normal.
Even at 50 baht PH got robbed, I had a Tuk Tuk driver offering a shopping trip for 20 baht after starting at 40. Not that I wanted to go shopping in the first place just thought it was funny how low they will go to get your business.
[QUOTE=Bob Down]Even at 50 baht PH got robbed, I had a Tuk Tuk driver offering a shopping trip for 20 baht after starting at 40. Not that I wanted to go shopping in the first place just thought it was funny how low they will go to get your business.[/QUOTE]
They will take you for free because they make a killing on the commissions they get from you being overcharged by the merchants.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
The term "little brown fucking machines" is derogatory. Don't use it.[/QUOTE]
ROFLMAO! You really do crack me up at times.;)
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]ROFLMAO! You really do crack me up at times.;)[/QUOTE]
Glad I could provide some humor.
It just so happens that I really hate this phrase, althought admittedly, I've used other references to P4P girls, which might be considered as bad as this, by some.
But, in the context of everything else that PurpleHaze said, it came across as particularly unsavoury to me.
Usually, I tend to focus on young girls so it’s a bit unusual for me to report about relatively old girls.
The first one I met last Wednesday night in Nana disco. The disco was far from being full, the outrageous 400 THB entry fee and low season being probably the reason for this. Surprisingly enough, the first two girls I approached there didn’t seem to be interested in me. After some time and a few beers I approached another girl. The usual ‘accroche-coeurs” isaan girls often have, good face, beautiful eyes, not tall, and breast seemed to hold. After a few dance we go out. As I see her outside I realize she’s not so young, and maybe some other talents in the parking lot are better looking. We eat hotpot in the street near Nana, 270 THB for two plates, which is probably farang price, but it was good. After that we go to my hotel. While walking we talk a little and she tells me she’s 35. Hmmm… Anyway, it’s too late to change my mind. When I see her nude, I can barely believe it: nice tight breast, flat belly, smooth skin. In bed it was semi-GFE: nice attitude, no Frenchkiss, CBJ, overall a very satisfying experience. Her name was Tuk, or Kut, or something like that, and she sells clothes at Pathunam.. Price was not discussed. I gave her the standard 1000 THB ST, plus 100 for taxi as it was late. She would gladly have stayed long time but I preferred to stay quiet.
I met the other one, named Nat, the next day at BG around 6.30 pm. I wanted an early girl as I had to take my flight back home the same day. I was attracted by her Chinese eyes (I like cat-like eyes), and also her very slim body. After a short talk we head towards my hotel. While talking with her, I also learn that she was 35 too. We shower together and I can check her body. Again I am impressed: firm breast, flat belly, and soft skin. The girl was very friendly and what happened next was 100% GFE: wet pussy, Frenchkiss, BBJ, and passionate fuck. One of my best experience in Bangkok! She also sells clothes at Pathunam. Price was also not discussed. I gave her the standard 1000 ST and 200 tip because she was so nice.
Hmmm…Maybe I should not be that prejudiced about girls’ age after all!
[QUOTE=El Frances]... Hmmm… Anyway, it’s too late to change my mind. When I see her nude, I can barely believe it: nice tight breast, flat belly, smooth skin. In bed it was semi-GFE: nice attitude, no Frenchkiss, CBJ, overall a very satisfying experience. Her name was Tuk, or Kut, or something like that, and [b]she sells clothes at Pathunam[/b].. Price was not discussed. ...[/QUOTE]Next time try to arange a girl outside a p4p-area, for example in a shopping-center (Phrathunam.). Believe me: it's much more fun.
Errrr you appear to lack an understanding of English.
Everyone was saying that your 50Baht Tuk Tuk for 3 hours is in fact impossible, as no Tuk Tuk driver will take you around Bangkok for 3 hours for 50 Baht.
500 Baht yes, maybe, or 800 Baht.
But no one will do it for 50 Baht, its far too cheap. Unless they are making massive commissions on shopping and massage and you are overpaying.
So please, do not delude yourself we think 50B is too expensive. We are all laughing as 50B is far too cheap and makes therefore the rest of what you wrote very suspicious in its "truth" origins.
The jist was, before writing crap, please at least research your facts, and makes sure your story has not got "gaping" holes in it.
For reference. Motorbike taxi will cost around 60B to 80B for a one way trip from Sukhumvit to say Pratunam. Tuk Tuk will be around 60B.
So, thats a one way trip, lasting perhaps 10 to 15 minutes. And its 60 Baht.
So your 3 hours "seeing all the places I wanted to see in Bangkok". For a mere 50 Baht, it total, utter tosh.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]50B = $1.56 +/-, wow I am a dumb ass spending all that $1.56 on a three hour tour. Man, I was robbed blind. For most of you idiots $1.56 is what you make an hour, so you need to be cheap. In what fucking country do live in, that you can’t afford $1.56?? Do you know how stupid you sound when you say that I was robbed of a $1.56??? No instead you say I was robbed of 50b which for the true “grasshopper” sounds like a lot, but that is how you guys like to spin things
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Wow, you guys are a sensitive bunch[/QUOTE]
No, dumb-fuck. As a newbie, you insulted every guy on here, all of whom know a hell of lot more than you do. That's all.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]No, dumb-fuck. As a newbie, you insulted every guy on here, all of whom know a hell of lot more than you do. That's all.[/QUOTE]
OTH,
Forget it, the bloke's like a rash, if you don't scratch it, it won't spread.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Wow, you guys are a sensitive bunch, ...
Yeah, I like the “little brown fucking machines” and OTH I am sure you never had a typo in all 1537+ posts but you had to pick on something didn’t you
As for mongers with yellow crooked teeth, I saw what I saw, and reported it as such, honesty hurts, nothing stupid about reporting the facts
In the mean time invest in some teeth whitener, and the rest of you go buy some pads for your bleeding pussies!
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Jezus, what an A-Hole... Do us all a favor and don't came back to LOS. And why would anyone want to recommend this for a Report of Distinction? It's just a bunch of ravings by another Thailand "expert." We don't care that you post, just don't brag about your stupidity.
I have pulled Nak from the back of the BG for LT for 1200THB. Your description is accurate and she is a great person who does clothing during the day and some weekends at Phrathunam. She has shown me several lesser known temples in BKK and up river. At the BG she is often with a girl who does not speak English called Tuk or Tak. I generally prefer older ones and Nak is in great shape.
[QUOTE=El Frances]Usually, I tend to focus on young girls so it’s a bit unusual for me to report about relatively old girls.
The first one I met last Wednesday night in Nana disco. The disco was far from being full, the outrageous 400 THB entry fee and low season being probably the reason for this. Surprisingly enough, the first two girls I approached there didn’t seem to be interested in me. After some time and a few beers I approached another girl. The usual ‘accroche-coeurs” isaan girls often have, good face, beautiful eyes, not tall, and breast seemed to hold. After a few dance we go out. As I see her outside I realize she’s not so young, and maybe some other talents in the parking lot are better looking. We eat hotpot in the street near Nana, 270 THB for two plates, which is probably farang price, but it was good. After that we go to my hotel. While walking we talk a little and she tells me she’s 35. Hmmm… Anyway, it’s too late to change my mind. When I see her nude, I can barely believe it: nice tight breast, flat belly, smooth skin. In bed it was semi-GFE: nice attitude, no Frenchkiss, CBJ, overall a very satisfying experience. Her name was Tuk, or Kut, or something like that, and she sells clothes at Pathunam.. Price was not discussed. I gave her the standard 1000 THB ST, plus 100 for taxi as it was late. She would gladly have stayed long time but I preferred to stay quiet.
I met the other one, named Nat, the next day at BG around 6.30 pm. I wanted an early girl as I had to take my flight back home the same day. I was attracted by her Chinese eyes (I like cat-like eyes), and also her very slim body. After a short talk we head towards my hotel. While talking with her, I also learn that she was 35 too. We shower together and I can check her body. Again I am impressed: firm breast, flat belly, and soft skin. The girl was very friendly and what happened next was 100% GFE: wet pussy, Frenchkiss, BBJ, and passionate fuck. One of my best experience in Bangkok! She also sells clothes at Pathunam. Price was also not discussed. I gave her the standard 1000 ST and 200 tip because she was so nice.
Hmmm…Maybe I should not be that prejudiced about girls’ age after all![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Truth hurts, and the only rash here is the one on your ass from the Katoey you were with last night, because you were to tight with your money to pay for a BG.[/QUOTE]
Wow kiddo, you are also quite an expert at slinging the insults as well ;) We have a cute little word for guys like you where I come from, I'll bet you can't guess what it is .. w****r.
Hi guys,
Any action (BJ bars, happy-ending massages etc) close to Suvarnabhumi Airport?
I will be in transit and have about 3 hrs to spare.
Cheers
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]... and insulted people with the truth, by no means does that make me an expert. But I find many of you are tainted in your ways, and thus have a sour outlock on those of us who are able to enjoy more in short period, because we are not tight wads SOB's.
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Talk about missing the point, you probably made every "rookie" mistake possible and then bragged about them and got defensive when they were pointed out to you by more "experienced" members. Plus, you make criticism extremely personal. FYI, I bet I make five times as much as you so don't call me a tight wad. Being married to a Thai I know that the average Thai looks upon someone who wastes money as a fool. My wife still bargains over
satang with the vegetable sellers. It's just her culture.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Wow kiddo, you are also quite an expert at slinging the insults as well ;) We have a cute little word for guys like you where I come from, I'll bet you can't guess what it is .. w****r.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing wanker, but you are missing one *
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I'm guessing wanker, but you are missing one *[/QUOTE]
Hi Retired Army (so am I, but different armies I suspect),
Guess its better to not see stars than Vicky verky. w – 4* - r = wanker. You’ve given the game away now as I was looking forward to the poor deluded plonk asking how I knew he was a waiter :) Never mind, I could have added one star as he sure is a five star numpty.
Hope you come back soon PH as you are a scream. New members are the life blood of ISG and should be suitably nurtured and welcomed to the fold for the fresh insight they can offer (well remember my offputting intro from Brucie) but not if they are misogynist, mongerphobic, idiots. Otherwise don’t lurk, come in and shoot the shit, it’s a good laugh. Don’t be put off by Prof Doff and his cozy cabal of sad sicko’s (don’t get your BP up boys - as in elephants):D GH
Hi,
I am talking to a few girls on the website ThaiLoveLinks in BKK and was planning on meeting one or two when I come to visit, does anyone here have an opinion about this site? Are they regular girls, some semi-pros, or pros?
Thanks in advance
Andy
How long have you been in LOS? Four days? A week? First time? You talk too much for a rookie, aka newbie. You appeared to be so worried about being able to "score" the first night you got there, that you asked for advice. We gave you some genuine advice (the keyword being genuine). Are you just in Thailand to get laid as much as you can? There's more to Thailand than that. You appear to think as though we're all a bunch of tightwads here, you talk about your ability to pay generously for sex, for tuk-tuk rides. BFD. I've run into guys like you before in Thailand. Thought they had the place figured out in less than a week. You're a first time caller, long time listener. Here's some good advice: be humble. Stop blowing your own horn. We don't care about the fact that your dick is raw, and you had only been there less than 24 hours. Don't come back here slinging insults and shit at people you really don't know. I don't know any of these people personally on this board, but I can certainly tell who know's what's going on, and who to listen to.
Over and out.
Yawn. Ignore list activated.
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Yawn. Ignore list activated.[/QUOTE]
That's worth $1.56 (Baht50) - no, take that back: [b]priceless[/b] ;)
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Hi guys,
Any action (BJ bars, happy-ending massages etc) close to Suvarnabhumi Airport?
I will be in transit and have about 3 hrs to spare.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Is this 3 hours from landing time to take off time if so by the time you get off one plane and back on to the other the odds are you won't have enough time. When I land on my next trip in June the landing time will be 1505 hrs at Bkk and then departing flight to HKT is 1820hrs. In that time I have to get off the plane go through passport control collect my bag and then check in for my next flight.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Let me guess, your make five times as much as I do on your E-4 retirement from the Army![/QUOTE]
Whats an E-4 mate? If you take care to read the posts you will note I did not specify which army. Could be salvation army for all you know but don't come to me for help as I am afraid theres no hope for you.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]There is that name calling again, but you have no substance in your statement. As for rookie mistake, let me guess, I paid $1. 56 for a three hour tour, but you being so wise would of only paid $1. 26? Man I admit I was robbed, I am such a rookie.[/QUOTE]
As we all know Tuk-Tuk are only for tourists, so I guess that puts you in what category?
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]
You guys insist on calling me evey name in the book but that is all you can do, because deep down inside it burns you up knowing I did what I did and broke all your little "senior monger" rules.[/QUOTE]
Who gives a shit what you did, you are the one who started with the insults and name calling. If you can't take it, don't dish it out in the first place.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]
Do you know how stupid you sound calling me a "wanker", am I back in grade school or what? Grown men with nothing better to do than to call people names. Go buy a pad, and you already know where to put it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what wanker is anyway, but if the shoe fits...
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]As for your salary, if you make five times what I make (talk about lying), that is a lot of money and that would mean you are an intelligent person, but we know that is not true, because you joined the Army, and all the boys and girls know that Army will take anyone with an IQ of a rock. So take your E-4 retirement check and go buy your wife (retired bar girl) a hamburger. I would not brag about being married to a Thai girl.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I was referring to your lower class attitude and, based on your "brilliant" postings, came to the conclusion that you are, at best, a lower socioeconomic, blue collar laborer. Probably lucky to make minimum wage, if and when, you can find legal employment.
FYI, I was drafted and, thinks to my "intelligence", offered a college degree and commission. My entire Army Senior Officer retirement check goes directly to savings. And BTW, I am positive that my Thai wife (non-bar girl) comes from a better family than you and has far more education. I am extremely proud of my Thai wife and any guy, especially someone of your caliber, would be extremely lucky to have her.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]
Again another memeber proves his stupidity by claiming to make lots of money with a user name of "Retired Army", because we all know rich guys go to Thailand and marry bar girls. I soon will be back in Thailand, maybe I will see Bill Gates there at Rainbow 4? [/QUOTE]
Why don't you tell us a little about your background instead of throwing insults around and making yourself look like a complete fool.
There are a couple of guys on this forum who know where and for whom I work, so I have nothing to prove to you.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Whats an E-4 mate? If you take care to read the posts you will note I did not specify which army. Could be salvation army for all you know but don't come to me for help as I am afraid theres no hope for you.[/QUOTE]
It's the equivelant of a Coproral. PH has a problem with authority because it was E-4s who made him clean the toilets in the barracks.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]It's the equivelant of a Coproral. PH has a problem with authority because it was E-4s who made him clean the toilets in the barracks.[/QUOTE]
Should have stuck his head down one and flushed :D
[QUOTE=Andy1974]Hi,
I am talking to a few girls on the website ThaiLoveLinks in BKK and was planning on meeting one or two when I come to visit, does anyone here have an opinion about this site? Are they regular girls, some semi-pros, or pros?
Thanks in advance
Andy[/QUOTE]
I would be extremely careful with any girl you meet on the internet. Some of these women are real "pros" in separating lonely men from their hard earned money.
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Hi guys,
Any action (BJ bars, happy-ending massages etc) close to Suvarnabhumi Airport?
I will be in transit and have about 3 hrs to spare.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Nothing close to the new airport.
It will take you at least an hour to clear immigration and take a taxi to the closest massage parlor. Figure an hour doing your business, and an hour back to the airport, clear security and make it to your aircraft. That leaves how much time for traffic, or other delays? Not worth the risk.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Will the name calling ever stop? Are we not men amongst men?[/quote]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]go buy your wife (retired bar girl) a hamburger. I would not brag about being married to a Thai girl.[/quote]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Again another memeber proves his stupidity[/quote]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]You seem to have some gapping holes in your brain, dumb-ass[/quote]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]you are fucking morons[/quote]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Geez you really are an idiot[/quote]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]You seem to have some gapping holes in your brain, dumb-ass.[/quote]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]the rest of you go buy some pads for your bleeding pussies[/quote]
The Pot Calling the Kettle Black... it is time I put that Moron on Ignore myself.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Errr, you appear to lack any form of intelligence, I quoted the statement for you to read, after you read it you tell me who lacks and understanding of English!!
[/QUOTE]
That's easy, PH - you do. You're making a huge thing of the colloquial use of the word "robbed," which the poster intended to mean, "paid too much." There was also a touch of irony in that statement. The type of "tour" you had can cost 40B, 20B or nothing because the driver makes his profit from the commissions he gets from delivering easy marks to various businesses, whether they be MPs, gem shops or tailors.
A taxi ride (on the meter) between Suk Soi 11 and Livingstones on Soi 33 costs about 50B in light traffic and takes about 15 minutes, maybe even less. You explain to me - how could the tuk tuk driver not LOSE several times that amount by driving you for three hours for 50B? The minimum daily wage in Bangkok for an unskilled laborer is 194B and will soon go up to 203B daily. A rate of 50B for three hours would yield the tuk tuk driver 133B for an eight-hour day, from which he'd have to pay for fuel, maintenance on his vehiclle, etc. Again, explain to us all how he could make a living as an independent entrepeneur on a gross income that is considerable less than an unskilled laborer would make?
I have a feeling that if you didn't pay rip-off prices at the places you visited on your three-hour tour, then you are still in Kansas, Toto.
To everyone else - It's fairly obvious than PH is the latest incarnation of a well-known troll who always begins by pretending to be a newbie and asking very detailed but reasonable questions, then follows up with an unbelievable T/R that always contradicts the advice he received and results in less-than-amicable responses.
Trivia question: On the TV show "Gilligan's Island," how much did the passengers abroad the SS Minnow pay for their three-hour tour?
Evil
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I would be extremely careful with any girl you meet on the internet. Some of these women are real "pros" in separating lonely men from their hard earned money.[/QUOTE]
Well, RA. I've had a lot of experience with TLL. While you're right to a point, especially now (TLL has a lot more P4P in disguise), I had many good experiences with women on there, related before in a very lengthy post. I had some quite terrible experiences as well. But, since I met my GF on TLL and she's turned out to be a real gem, from a good family, I would still cautiously recommend the site.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]...
A taxi ride (on the meter) between Suk Soi 11 and Livingstones on Soi 33 costs about 50B in light traffic and takes about 15 minutes, maybe even less. ...
[/QUOTE]Oh, you guys have fun here, 3 full pages in 24 hours, that's more than in the best Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok times... :) .
Taxi ride (meter) from Suk Soi 11 to Livingstone's in Soi 33 - in light traffic you will not even need 5 min., and pay just 40 baht.
I hope I added some useful information to the forum right now :) !
Giotto
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Gentlemen,
NEP vs Soi Cowboy, of the two areas which has better quality, in terms of looks, brown skin, and thin girls?
Other than taking a Tuk Tuk, what other means of transportation could I take to these locations?[/QUOTE]
How about the BTS Skytrain? Easiest way to get around BKK.
As far as your question about NEP vs Soi Cowboy, I don't go to either, so can't answer.
If you don't mind dropping a few bucks why don't you try the Pegagus Club?
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I think you guys owe me a beer. Lets all meet at NEP and you guys can take turns buying me a beer. Then we can call it even.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, but no thanks...
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Well, RA. I've had a lot of experience with TLL. While you're right to a point, especially now (TLL has a lot more P4P in disguise), I had many good experiences with women on there, related before in a very lengthy post. I had some quite terrible experiences as well. But, since I met my GF on TLL and she's turned out to be a real gem, from a good family, I would still cautiously recommend the site.[/QUOTE]
I don't have any experience with TLL; but, go to any internet shop in one of the Farang "tourist" entertainment areas and you will see P4P girls chatting with guys on the internet. Sometimes several at once. After a while the baby needs formula, the mother an operation, or the buffalo is sick and they need money. Not much at first, but once it's sent the hook is set.
Also, according to PurpleHaze having a Thai girlfriend/wife "is nothing to brag about."
[QUOTE=Giotto]
Taxi ride (meter) from Suk Soi 11 to Livingstone's in Soi 33 - in light traffic you will not even need 5 min., and pay just 40 baht.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
And in heavy traffic... 5 hours?
How about from Nana BTS to Phrong Phong (my Thai spelling sucks)? Five minutes and 20 Baht regardless of the traffic.
Purple,
I think the reason you ruffled so many feathers is really very simple. You asked some questions, and got polite answers. In return, you posted arrogant comments and insulted everyone who offered help by calling their contributions crap. Call me crazy, but don't you think that's being an ass? My comments below ..
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I have been here less than 24 hrs. and my dick is raw already. I had three different ladies, young (19-20) tiny one LT from Rainbow 4, older (29) super tiny ST Morning/Night Bar, and a older (35) skinny soapy massage with FS, some hidden place that my tuk-tuk driver took me.
I paid a tuk-tuk 50B and he took me around for about three hours and showed me all I needed to know about BKK.[/QUOTE]
You missed the point on responses to this one. The 50B ride was not the main issue. The hidden place, where the tuk-tuk driver took you, paid the driver 500 baht for bringing you there, which came out of your pocket as part of the price of the Soapy. You were scammed. There are better Soapy's for the same price you paid. The only reason others laughed, was because the comments you made, regarding crap information and how the driver showed you "all you needed to know about BKK". Yeah, in a way I guess he did.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]A lot of the mongers I have seen here are some pathetic looking blokes. Some are down right goofy and dirty looking. One guy I saw today was a dollar short of mongoloid looking. What's up with so many guys with yellow crooked teeth??? Not complaining because that makes it soo much easier for me to get the fine little brown fucking machines.[/Quote]
Let's see .. make fun of people, use of derogatory & racist comments, topped off with a heavy dose of arrogance. The comments paint a better picture of you, than the scene you described.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Being my first time here in BKK I will say some of your guys advice about this and that is really overrated. I think many of you exagerate the realities in order to justify your existance on this forum. A lot of crap is put out on ISG and I think in comes from those who just don't know how to assimilate in foriegn country.
Later.[/QUOTE]
Let's see. First time in BKK, 24 hours, newbie mistakes, and you are an expert on assimilation. Sorry ... arrogant. Justify our existence? Hardly, but again, just an arrogant comment. Crap on the ISG? Why then are you here asking questions?
Not one useful bit of information in your post, rife with insults, and just not a very flattering picture of who you are. Sorry man, but you went from bad to worse with all of your follow up posts. Insults, name calling, and more insults.
I'm not sure what your problem is, but you are going in the wrong direction. I hope you read what you wrote again, objectively. I hope you read your follow ups again, objectively. Ask yourself how it looks, if someone else wrote what you wrote.
Peace,
AT2
[QUOTE=Giotto]Taxi ride (meter) from Suk Soi 11 to Livingstone's in Soi 33 - in light traffic you will not even need 5 min., and pay just 40 baht.
I hope I added some useful information to the forum right now :) ![/QUOTE]
Absolutely. If you are Soi 11 and there is light traffic (meaning you get lucky enough to get a green light at Asoke), then 5 minutes and the meter will show 35 thb.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]...
Nana BTS to Phrong Phong (my Thai spelling sucks)? ...[/QUOTE]
You cracked me up LOL :D
Its really very inconsiderate when naming BTS stations not to choose something that Farangs can pronounce readily, especially in very touristy districts.
There is no spelling in English that adequately conveys the correct pronunciation unfortunately.
Normally spelled: Phrom Phong but could easily be Phraawm Phong or Prawm Pong. First syllable long and 2nd one short.
พร้อม พงษ์ I think.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]And in heavy traffic... 5 hours?
...[/QUOTE]Retired Army,
then - you walk! 10 min... :)
Giotto
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I don't have any experience with TLL; but, go to any internet shop in one of the Farang "tourist" entertainment areas and you will see P4P girls chatting with guys on the internet. Sometimes several at once. After a while the baby needs formula, the mother an operation, or the buffalo is sick and they need money. Not much at first, but once it's sent the hook is set.
Also, according to PurpleHaze having a Thai girlfriend/wife "is nothing to brag about."[/QUOTE]
I'll do this again, albeit briefly.
I met about 65 or so women on TLL over 3 years. Of those 2 admitted being P4P, upfront. Another 10 were in that gray area: no money upfront, but little requests later on, as we got to know each other better. So that's 12 that I'm pretty sure would fall into P4P in one way or another. There were probably another 2 or 3 of the 38 I shagged, that might be suspect, as well. So, that's a total of say 15 that were probably P4P. That leaves 23, including my current GF who were in no way that I could discern even remotely P4P. There were never requests for money. They were just regular dating situations, as far as I was concerned.
I'm sorry RA, but it's a new day. Thai girls of all stripes are all over the Internet. Your old belief that, the only way to meet a good Thai girl is by being introduced by a Thai is just so out of date. Sure, there are lots of P4P girl in Internet cafes chatting with Farang. But, there also lots of Thai girls in general chatting online every single minute of the day, just as there are girls everywhere else doing the same. I see my HiSo students on Hi5, Hot or Not, TLL, Facebook, MSN Personals...you name it.
The Internet is the new dating scene.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I'll do this again, albeit briefly.
I met about 65 or so women on TLL over 3 years. Of those 2 admitted being P4P, upfront. Another 10 were in that gray area: no money upfront, but little requests later on, as we got to know each other better. So that's 12 that I'm pretty sure would fall into P4P in one way or another. There were probably another 2 or 3 of the 38 I shagged, that might be suspect, as well. So, that's a total of say 15 that were probably P4P. That leaves 23, including my current GF who were in no way that I could discern even remotely P4P. There were never requests for money. They were just regular dating situations, as far as I was concerned.
I'm sorry RA, but it's a new day. Thai girls of all stripes are all over the Internet. Your old belief that, the only way to meet a good Thai girl is by being introduced by a Thai is just so out of date. Sure, there are lots of P4P girl in Internet cafes chatting with Farang. But, there also lots of Thai girls in general chatting online every single minute of the day, just as there are girls everywhere else doing the same. I see my HiSo students on Hi5, Hot or Not, TLL, Facebook, MSN Personals...you name it.
The Internet is the new dating scene.[/QUOTE]
You're probably correct, I'm just not in the dating scene anymore and a little out of touch. But, I would still be wary of any girl I met on the internet. As I said before my wife owned an internet shop close to Soi 7 and translating chat and email was a big part of her business. Most of her customers were Bier Garten girls and you would not believe some of the scams they were running. Some of these girls were pulling in over 100K a month from their "boyfriends" living in foreign countries.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]You cracked me up LOL :D
Its really very inconsiderate when naming BTS stations not to choose something that Farangs can pronounce readily, especially in very touristy districts.
There is no spelling in English that adequately conveys the correct pronunciation unfortunately.
Normally spelled: Phrom Phong but could easily be Phraawm Phong or Prawm Pong. First syllable long and 2nd one short.
พร้อม พงษ์ I think.[/QUOTE]
Moe Chit and On Nut are appropriately named. Because when I go to Mo Chit I buy more shit at Chat-a-Chuck (again my spelling). And since the "nuts" are found along Sukhumvit I head to On Nut when I want to go anywhere on Suk. My way of navigating in BKK
You are such a stud, we would never have a chance with you around ...
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]I think you guys owe me a beer. Lets all meet at NEP and you guys can take turns buying me a beer. Then we can call it even.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Some of these girls were pulling in over 100K a month from their "boyfriends" living in foreign countries.[/QUOTE]
Well, that was happening back when the Internet was a mere shadow of what it is now. Remember the weekly warnings of Bernard Trink on the subject? I remember a girl from Long Gun back in '97 that I took out quite a few times to the point that she just used to come around mine and hang out. One Sunday, she got a call on MY LAND LINE from some loser in Oz who was sending her 60,000/month - a lot of dosh back then. She had several guys on line doing the same. Her bank balance was quite healthy. She once showed me her bank book and she had a balance of 1 million and a half.
The story's the same. The Internet has just made it easier.
I was really begining to enjoy his posts.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Gentlemen,
NEP vs Soi Cowboy, of the two areas which has better quality, in terms of looks, brown skin, and thin girls?
Other than taking a Tuk Tuk, what other means of transportation could I take to these locations?[/QUOTE]WHAT? In three hours your tuk-tuk driver didn't fill you in where the best quality girls are? And you didn't ask? RTFF. As far as I'm concerned you are on your own.
But do come back and fill us in on your exploits. Your posts are practically the highlight of my day.
Hi OTH
Would you be so kind as to post your link to your previous post about TLL..i looked but cant find it as not sure how far back it goes.
I tend to agree that there are indeed some real gems to be had on TLL and especially if you are actually living in Bangkok..in fact if you are living in Bangkok and play your cards right you could give up the whole P4P scene by just meeting girls off the net...better still if you live in Bangkok and speak Thai then seriously you will get more pussy than you can handle and not have to pay at all.
No question that there are plenty of hookers online but it is pretty easy to work that out after chatting with them for a while (for example if they want to meet you in a bar and play pool then for sure they are P4P!!, or if they want to meet in a bar such as gullivers or whatever).
Cheers anyway.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy]better still if you live in Bangkok and speak Thai then seriously you will get more pussy than you can handle and not have to pay at all.
[/QUOTE]
That is an oxymoronic statement, it’s impossible, you will pay one way or the other. In fact many learned men tell you that you will pay much more when dealing with a good girl (dinner, flowers, candy, jewelry, maintenance etc). Although in the non P4P world your social interactions may be better, in no way would it be free. In addition to OTH, there are also others posters along with myself who have posted about TLL and other dating sites on ISG.
Finally, and don’t every one go rushing over there all at once, Na has a profile on TLL :D
[QUOTE=Bowerboy]Hi OTH
No question that there are plenty of hookers online but it is pretty easy to work that out after chatting with them for a while (for example if they want to meet you in a bar and play pool then for sure they are P4P!!, or if they want to meet in a bar such as gullivers or whatever).
Cheers anyway.[/QUOTE]
BB I am confused, are you saying if a girl agrees to meet at Gulliver's, then she is p4p? I have taken and meet non p4p girls to Gulliver's before no problems.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]In fact many learned men tell you that you will pay much more when dealing with a good girl (dinner, flowers, candy, jewelry, maintenance etc). Although in the non P4P world your social interactions may be better, in no way would it be free.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely true. But, I just put the extra cost and effort down to my preferred method of procurring the quality of women in which I'm interested (admittedly, not everyone's cup of tea).
That Na has a profile on TLL is not surprising at all. As I mentioned in a previous post, TLL has gone downhill dramatically in the last year or so and is now full of P4P girls masquerading as regular TGs. I tend to view it now as a cyber Biergarten.
[QUOTE=Bob Down]BB I am confused, are you saying if a girl agrees to meet at Gulliver's, then she is p4p? I have taken and meet non p4p girls to Gulliver's before no problems.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I'd be pretty suspicious of any girl who would allow herself to be seen in Gulliver's. When you even have former "good Thai girl" bars like Q-Bar and BedSupperClub moving towards P4P, a place like Gulliver's just slips down to the bottom, that much more quickly.
I would caution to be extra careful when dealing with any women over the internet, sady there are so many mongers like us go get played when they play the damn emotional card.
I had a similar experience, I corresponded with a Thai chick for over 10 months finally when I arrived in Bangkok, she showed up with her ugly sister and wanted me to go out with her sister as she just met a BF. I said sorry not interested...
However she seemed genuine, did not want to meet at a bar/club but at my hotel reception only. She clearly said no meeting in my room.... if her sister was half way decent I would have said ok and at lease banged her.
Our GF's sometimes cheat with us right under our nose here in the US. Honestly I cannot believe how much of a sucker one would be to believe that a Thai girl will be faithful and send her money every month....
They all play us like suckers.. remember when discussion of any money for maintenance talk come up, run for the hills..
I arrived back at work via Dubai yesterday. But through Dubai for two days. What a shock to walk in to Jockeys for a beer and get the super aggressive, in your face, Chinese in UAE treatment after coming from LOS. Had to leave after first beer and phone a regular.
So a bit of hindsight. I spent most of my time with freelancers I met through a freind of mine.a regular visiter to BKK, but tried out the Sports Lounge a few nights. One major letdown, will not name however, but put it down to being a new girl and the Mamasan not paying attention to my requests. Actually had more bad luck with Mamasan and had a few stumbles as a result. But in the Thai way just keep smiling I guess.
On the positive had some absolutely lovely time with two ladies from the place. And I must say, it was my first time at this "hotel" but the atomsphere is not to be bettered. The Sports Lounge is geared up for what it is, but no hassle at all if you just want a pick up game of pool or to watch a match in good company. Much a change from some places I have been in BKK.
The first lady was JJ, I don't think I have seen a report on her. Not flawless, but very attractive. Great english, and sense of humour, a bit older at 30 or so, but I think that suits me well and is equilivant to 23 in Farang years. I liked her upbeat attitude, and she was a lot of fun to be with. Also took her on my last night, and did the rounds at Nana. Again great night, and I enjoy not just the pleasure of her company, but also the way she carries herself. Quality with a fun attitude. Definitely a girl that if you click with she is a very good provider.
Second to reccommend is Tack. Reported earlier by other members. One of the sweetest ladies I have ever met in any country. Charming, sexy, decent, proud, humble, and great fun all in one. My type for LT. Stiffoak has a great report on her, and I need to say nothing more. But I like her as a person and knowing a bit of her situation, if you are there, she is also recommended.
Anyway, a few other reports to wirte up on my stay, will take me a few days as I am swamped.
Regards
[QUOTE=Bob Down]BB I am confused, are you saying if a girl agrees to meet at Gulliver's, then she is p4p? I have taken and meet non p4p girls to Gulliver's before no problems.[/QUOTE]Bob Down,
YES, if a girl agrees to meet you at Gulliver's, and she KNOWS Gulliver's somehow from before - then she is involved in P4P, for sure.
I don't expect you to believe me. Just believe me.
There might be a non-P4P girl in Gulliver's from time to time, but she just got there with friends/customers/dates etc. ... . Once she knows the place and the area around it a non-P4P girl WILL NOT GO THERE any more.
I don't expect you to believe me. Just believe me.
Giotto
I don't know it there is a record for the lowest price paid, but going up to departures as I have done since new airport opened: 175 to LL Soi 33. Gave him 250 for being honest. He was chuffed as obviously he had not counted on a return.
Some of these guys pay 800 to rent their car for the day, might not seem much, but like all taxi work, most is fuck around money, not real jobs.
Advice received from this forum and friend from my country: go up the esclators to departures, and ged the guys from there. Much happier experience overall.
Regards
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Personally, I'd be pretty suspicious of any girl who would allow herself to be seen in Gulliver's. When you even have former "good Thai girl" bars like Q-Bar and BedSupperClub moving towards P4P, a place like Gulliver's just slips down to the bottom, that much more quickly.[/QUOTE]Old Thai Hand,
You bastard, I thought, you were never involved into P4P, but you know details so well: Gulliver's, Q-Bar and Bed Supper Club ... come one, I expect you in Saxophone and Orientals...!!!
Go ahead, kick my arse... :)
Giotto
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]... the highlight of your day is getting your welfare check in the mail.
[/QUOTE]PurpleHaze,
I don't know about the highlights of your day. But I think you somehow have lost it.
Would it be possible for you [b]to simply shut up[/b]?
Giotto
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]And I thought you were my friend. By the way, the highlight of your day is getting your welfare check in the mail.
Going to get some nooky, going to get some nooky. LBFM's here I cum![/QUOTE]Your friend? I'm very careful who I make friends with. Although, that said, there are some guys on ISG (and in this forum) who I'd definitely sit down with a beer and shoot the bull with. You aren't one of them though.
Too bad you have to GO OUT and GET SOME nooky. I got some "nooky" at lunch time. And I didn't even have to leave the office.
[QUOTE=Giotto]Old Thai Hand,
You bastard, I thought, you were never involved into P4P, but you know details so well: Gulliver's, Q-Bar and Bed Supper Club ... come one, I expect you in Saxophone and Orientals...!!!
Go ahead, kick my arse... :)
Giotto[/QUOTE]
I heard about those places from a friend. ;) :)
[QUOTE=Giotto]Bob Down,
YES, if a girl agrees to meet you at Gulliver's, and she KNOWS Gulliver's somehow from before - then she is involved in P4P, for sure.
I don't expect you to believe me. Just believe me.
There might be a non-P4P girl in Gulliver's from time to time, but she just got there with friends/customers/dates etc. ... . Once she knows the place and the area around it a non-P4P girl WILL NOT GO THERE any more.
I don't expect you to believe me. Just believe me.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Hi Giotto,
I know she is non p4p, she knows Sukhumvit well from working in offices along Sukhumvit. I also know her cousin, who comes from a rich thai family, and has a good job. Met the cousin on Khao San road the first time, but have not meet the cousin in Sukhumvit even if she knows that is where I stay.
No offence, I know where you are trying to come from (met her on a dating web site right?), but you are making asumptions about how I know this girl.
You'll just have to take my word as to how I know this girl.
Did arrange to meet another girl in Gulliver's, she maybe one not to go back to that area again. She too is non p4p, I get junk (spam if you like) emails from her all the time from her company email address.
Maybe a HiSo girl may not want to be seen in Sukhumvit, I guess you could say the girls I know are middle class.
One thing we may agree on, some of my friends/girls meet me in Siam for lunch/coffee.
[QUOTE=Bob Down]Hi Giotto,
I know she is non p4p, she knows Sukhumvit well from working in offices along Sukhumvit. I also know her cousin, who comes from a rich thai family, and has a good job. Met the cousin on Khao San road the first time, but have not meet the cousin in Sukhumvit even if she knows that is where I stay.
No offence, I know where you are trying to come from (met her on a dating web site right?), but you are making asumptions about how I know this girl.
You'll just have to take my word as to how I know this girl.
Did arrange to meet another girl in Gulliver's, she maybe one not to go back to that area again. She too is non p4p, I get junk (spam if you like) emails from her all the time from her company email address.
Maybe a HiSo girl may not want to be seen in Sukhumvit, I guess you could say the girls I know are middle class.
One thing we may agree on, some of my friends/girls meet me in Siam for lunch/coffee.[/QUOTE]
I would suggest then, that in the future, if you want to meet someone who is definitely not P4P, you do so somewhere other than Gulliver's (Starbuck's, for example or if you want a pub, then, The Londoner, The Bull's Head or Robin Hood). The girl might not honestly know the implications of going to Gulliver's. But, it simply doesn't look good for her to go there, even if she's only middle class.
I haven't been to Gullivers in a while, but I use to take a "friend" who was a Good Thai Girl there for dinner on occasion. We always ate out on the terrace and she would never go inside. She didn't mind being seen outside eating, but I think inside was too much for her to handle. I have seen other respectable Thais there also, usually earlier in the evening around dinner time, but never later at night.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]You may be forum moderator, but I am a Senior Member, so you better start recognizing![/QUOTE]
Being a Senior Member and 100 Baht will allow you to get a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]
What does everyone think of Eden Club?[/QUOTE]
I think you would be a natural for the Eden Club. On which side of the yellow line would you stand?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I think you would be a natural for the Eden Club. On which side of the yellow line would you stand?[/QUOTE]
He absolutely belongs on the left side of the yellow line..........
[QUOTE=Bob Down]...
No offence, I know where you are trying to come from (met her on a dating web site right?), but you are making asumptions about how I know this girl.
...[/QUOTE]Bob Down,
No assumptions at all. And no offence either.
There are always exceptions, in Gulliver's too - may be you were lucky. But - in general the girls you meet there are involved into P4P, and in general girls not involved into P4P will not go there.
Just as clarification, I was talking about Gulliver's, not about Sukhumvit in general.
Giotto
Dear Bob,
I am living in Bangkok for almost three years and although generalization is the common mistake of thinking of Farangs... (meaning if she is a *****, she will act as a *****... or all thai girls are like this and that)... I should admit that Giotto is statiscally right... Let say that 95% of girls that can be met at Gulliver are pros or semi-pros... Of course yours is may be in the remaining 5 % but you should keep the figure in mind.
This does not mean that your girl is a "bad girl". Now the life is more and more expansive in Thailand and many students or "normal" girls are hunting in hot spots like Gulliver to find additional sources of cash. This means that they would be the happiest to find a boyfriend.. and, if it is not possible, to find a man for the night.
This is the same situation on web sites... My personal experience on Thai Love Links ("TLL") is that only 10 % of the females there are normal girls which are on this site without any money driven objective.
Let me give you some figures... I have shagged 63 girls met on TLL in a little bit more than one year... It was amazingly easy for most of them... I do not know if it is a representative sample for statisticians but you will admit that it gives me a not-so-bad glance on the population of thai girls interested by Farang males.
90 % are interested by money ... but he most clever girls will not show this too quickly. These girls are the most dangerous. They will invite you for dinners and you will think .. She is not a pro, the proof is that she has paid yesterday the dinner...
... Once you are in love, the big demands will come. In fact, not real demands... but you will be informed that bad events have hit her family.
Of course, she will refused your help... another proof that she is a good girl... but after your insistance, she will finally accept. Face is so important in Thailand.
The father of Ploy one of my favourite girl met on TLL (she was a student in Chemical process) has lost 500 000 bahts in rice speculations.. this losses obliging my honey to sell her land in Khon Kaen... When I have not proposed to pay the 500 000 bahts to save her land... She has had to break with me... then she was insulting me online as the worst *****. If you would meet this girls, you would never imagining how she can be a *****.
These girls are not chasing 2000 bahts... no rabbit hunts... but tiger hunts... They are the most dangerous predators because you are almost sure that they are GOOD girls.
On the 10 % remaining, i think that these girls would be marvelous girlfriends. i wish that yours is in this part of the sample.
[QUOTE=Poupard2000]Dear Bob,
I am living in Bangkok for almost three years and although generalization is the common mistake of thinking of Farangs... (meaning if she is a *****, she will act as a *****... or all thai girls are like this and that)... I should admit that Giotto is statiscally right... Let say that 95% of girls that can be met at Gulliver are pros or semi-pros... Of course yours is may be in the remaining 5 % but you should keep the figure in mind.
This does not mean that your girl is a "bad girl". Now the life is more and more expansive in Thailand and many students or "normal" girls are hunting in hot spots like Gulliver to find additional sources of cash. This means that they would be the happiest to find a boyfriend.. and, if it is not possible, to find a man for the night.
This is the same situation on web sites... My personal experience on Thai Love Links ("TLL") is that only 10 % of the females there are normal girls which are on this site without any money driven objective.
Let me give you some figures... I have shagged 63 girls met on TLL in a little bit more than one year... It was amazingly easy for most of them... I do not know if it is a representative sample for statisticians but you will admit that it gives me a not-so-bad glance on the population of thai girls interested by Farang males.
90 % are interested by money ... but he most clever girls will not show this too quickly. These girls are the most dangerous. They will invite you for dinners and you will think .. She is not a pro, the proof is that she has paid yesterday the dinner...
... Once you are in love, the big demands will come. In fact, not real demands... but you will be informed that bad events have hit her family.
Of course, she will refused your help... another proof that she is a good girl... but after your insistance, she will finally accept. Face is so important in Thailand.
The father of Ploy one of my favourite girl met on TLL (she was a student in Chemical process) has lost 500 000 bahts in rice speculations.. this losses obliging my honey to sell her land in Khon Kaen... When I have not proposed to pay the 500 000 bahts to save her land... She has had to break with me... then she was insulting me online as the worst *****. If you would meet this girls, you would never imagining how she can be a *****.
These girls are not chasing 2000 bahts... no rabbit hunts... but tiger hunts... They are the most dangerous predators because you are almost sure that they are GOOD girls.
On the 10 % remaining, i think that these girls would be marvelous girlfriends. i wish that yours is in this part of the sample.[/QUOTE]
Haven't both Run Mann and I basically said all of this already about TLL and other online sites?
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Yeah, I bet you and Retired Army would be the first in line hoping to get some.[/QUOTE]
LOL - there may not be very many intellectual giants on ISG but you must surely take the prize for being the thickest skinned and most blissfully moronic :)
Keep it coming - you brighten up a dull day ;) GH
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]
What does everyone think of Eden Club?[/QUOTE]
What's the Eden Club?
Evil
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Being a Senior Member and 100 Baht will allow you to get a cup of coffee at Starbucks.[/QUOTE]
Your local Starbucks must be cheaper than mine.
[quote=hummer bird]ok i do rtff, but i am very curious to know if any expats or master mongers know where i can find a non-thai wg? i am not interested in traveling tourist hotspots, but more in black, and exotic booty and breast girls.
i know this is the thai forum, but i found that i was craving some curves and variety during my last few thailand experiences.
sorry if this offends the "only asian lovers", but i am sure i am not alone.
very much appreciate the contributions of all of you, and this sites existence.
cheers
hummer[/quote]
doubt you'll find anything too enticing in the vicinity of grace hotel. the disco cm2 in siam square (novotel hotel?) is the one place i know that will have some russians (a dozen or so when i've been there) and possibly a rep001tering of africans -- once there i saw one who i'd guess was from ethiopia or somwhere in that region. there might be girls from other places there too, not sure. the overwhelming majority will be thai of course.
if by 'curves' you mean heavy girls, then you might be happy at grace, and also if you're not picky about looks.
in general, if your standards are high, you'll probably be disappointed in finding a non-thai girl that meets them, even at cm2.
I am usually a silent lurker & only contributing as and when and not too double report or reproduce information already well provided by members, whose reports have provided me with valuable guidance and I am indebted for their reporting where accuracy is never doubted where they only wanted to share the info amongst punters whom have similar interest. In addition I have benefitted from the regulars where their maps, soapie guide, FRs and 2 cents are very sensible.
I have read the last few pages and would opine that PH has gone overboard in his 2 cents by being personal. You may disagree as to what is pretty and what type of service is good or bad in one's personal opinion.
Please dont whine if you feel that some of the reports have been inaccurate, as their opinion do actually reflect reality. I travel to Bangkok twice a month and has done so for the last 5 years. I also keep an apartment in CBD and punt quite extensively at various type of places using the info and field reports provided by a large number of the regular contributors.
Your TT experience of THB50 for 3 hours do seem rather out of this world, but maybe you are right and you did get that bargain for 3 hours, fair. The other members merely reflected reality and I work very closely with a large number of Thai colleagues and customers and I also travel extensively across Asia and your THB50 experience just did not gel with the local reality.
I do find that your immaturity does not really add any value to the forum.
My current reporting, I visited Sherbet Night Club located the main Ekkamai Road. The charges are not too bad amongst night clubs across Asia. The cost will be THB20k for 9 bottles of Chivas and each girl will cost circa THB300 per hour. There are at least 50-70 young girls with age ranging from 19 to 25 with some displaying well stack racks. Most dont speak English but will be ok for very very sparse basic English words. The is a large number of girsl sitting around the pool table, at the lounge sofa and around the bar area for your choosing. They will accompany you for drinking games and chit chat with hugging and light kisses. The girls do not follow you home, and if you are able to "court" on a long term basis, i feel there is a lot of potential. Getting their mobile numbers are not at all hard for any punter.
There is a also a large number of sexyily dress bartenders whom will drink with you but only from behind the counter. The guest ranges from local Thais to Japs to some farang tables and other Asians. The girls are friendly and you may want to sit down and order your drinks first before taking your time to choose your companion for the evening. It is unlikely they will go home with you on if they are seeing you for the first time. I guess it will take longer time investment for the GFE feel as they are the much better quality than a numbe of the regular haunts. This will be more suitable for residents or regular visitors to Bangkok.
You may ask for "Da" whom is one of the many mamasan and she is hot for a mamasan as my friend asked to book her instead of the girls.
There are also a large number coyote style dancing on the stage at different intervals where you may also ask them to sit at your table. You have a choice of sitting down sofa or standing cocktail table to spend your evening. We started the night at 10pm and finished at 1.30am with damages at THB5300. (3 blokes with 3 girls). This excludes drinks as we have existing bottles from previous trips.
This my 2 cents and hope that contributors like PH will be more tolerant to the various different contributors and behave like a bloody adult.
FD
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]What's the Eden Club?
Evil[/QUOTE]
LOL! Good one!
AT2
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Ask your local Tuk Tuk driver to take you there.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=685488#post685488[/url]
Went to Absolute Soi 7/1 a couple of times I was there. Didn't hook up myself. But appeared to be a mix of pro and semi pro. Anyway, was always a good time, and looked like a place I would return to. Band ok, not great, but atomsphere ok at all times. A few doors up from Eden, towards the start of the Soi. And just a few more doors up from Down Under.
Down Under is a great meeting point for lads, easy to find and within a short distance of everywhere. Made that my first stopping point in lower Soi's. A good mix of tourist and regular expats.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Had two experiences today, and I was surprised that both girls had a little odor to them south of the border. One was at Annie's and the other i pulled from AngelWitch.
Is that common?[/QUOTE]No it's not common. Most Thai girls keep themselves pretty clean. Both girls have some sort of an infection. You better get checked out, even if you were wearing a condom. Depending on where you are staying (you're probably staying in or around NANA), Bumrungrad Hospital is quite close. Go there. Ask your buddy the tuk tuk drive to take you there. It's right around the corner. You'll probably have to give blood, and ask for a GP. Tell him what you were doing, and be honest to him. Honestly with any doctor is always the best policy.
Only during the wet season.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Had two experiences today, and I was surprised that both girls had a little odor to them south of the border. One was at Annie's and the other i pulled from AngelWitch.
Is that common?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Had two experiences today, and I was surprised that both girls had a little odor to them south of the border. One was at Annie's and the other i pulled from AngelWitch.
Is that common?[/QUOTE]It's the first sign of AIDs wanker
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Had two experiences today, and I was surprised that both girls had a little odor to them south of the border. One was at Annie's and the other i pulled from AngelWitch.
Is that common?[/QUOTE]For the type of woman that would go with you; yes, it's very common.
[QUOTE=PurpleHaze]Yeah, I bet you and Retired Army would be the first in line hoping to get some.[/QUOTE]PH knows more about the Eden Club than he lets on. I wonder what his game is?
Lets get back on track and ignore the idiots of the board.
OK Guys,
Just so we are all on the same wave length, I did not meet my girl on TLL or any other dating site.
Secondly I did not happen apond my girl in Gulliver's, we had been chating online for sometime, she was a friend of a friend. Was planning on meet at the hotel but she did not know where it was, so not wanting to take her to a Soi 4 bar she agreed to go to Gulliver's. She was happy to meet again at Gulliver's the next time we meet.
True there is p4p in Gulliver's but I don't see it as being in your face like the bars on Soi 4.
[QUOTE=Bob Down]OK Guys,
True there is p4p in Gulliver's but I don't see it as being in your face like the bars on Soi 4.[/QUOTE]There is P4P at the Oriental Hotel also.
I know girls who won't go near the Soi 7 Bier Garten, but will go to Gulliver's for dinner. Sure, there's P4P at Gulliver's just as there is at the best hotels in BKK. That doesn't stop "good Thai Girls" from going to the Oriental for High Tea in the afternoon.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]There is P4P at the Oriental Hotel also.
I know girls who won't go near the Soi 7 Bier Garten, but will go to Gulliver's for dinner. Sure, there's P4P at Gulliver's just as there is at the best hotels in BKK. That doesn't stop "good Thai Girls" from going to the Oriental for High Tea in the afternoon.[/QUOTE]I hope you're being tongue-in-cheek here. :)
"So, you like your cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off. By the by, how much for a short time rogering?"
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I hope you're being tongue-in-cheek here. :) [/QUOTE]Of course I am, a little...
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]"So, you like your cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off. By the by, how much for a short time rogering?"[/QUOTE]Is there any other way for sandwiches, you know the kind of people I work for/with. They want linen tableclothes and silver service for everything. Wouldn't dream of sleeping on anything but silk sheets.
Now for rogering, I assume you are refering to hiring a young lady to escort you to the finest cultural events and keep you company until your wife comes home? Last time I checked the going price at the Oriental Bamboo Bar was 4K.
I posted this on another board, but those of you that do not read it.
Back in BKK again (on business, although not too heavy of a work load this time).
Arrived on Friday late afternoon. And sent a message to a girl I know from Tulip, for her to come to my hotel. No response.
Ended up bar hopping and picked up a FL. Ok, but nothing to write home about.
Sat, I got a message from my Tulip girl, and asked her to come to my hotel. She called me back and said she could come, but it was a bad time of month. She was "dirty" and did not think I would like that. She offered backside, but I said I will contact her a few days later.
Tried one of Noi's girls, she advertises on Bangkok to***.com classifieds. Girl was what was in the picture. And advertised as a new girl. Well she was. Fairly mechanical. No chemistry. Has to direct her most of the way.
For evening fun, I called a girl that I normally see in town. Not a working girl. And met her at the Landmark bar. Listened to a few sets, then she want to "see my room" She is kind of shy, so it is fun, but once she gets going she is horny. She says she does not see other guys, although always gets hit on, but is "afraid". Had a good night, but she said she had to get up very early to do something, so she left about 1:30.
Sunday, I took it easy, and just shot some pool. Was tempted by a girl at Tequila, that keeps asking me to barfine her. She gave me her number, and said she would see me later. Maybe she figured I did not want to pay the bf. (which I did not). But ended up hitting a few more bars and rested.
Monday, well I had to work, but finished up about 3. Headed to Angels on Soi 26. Have not been there in awhile, but always got good service, and the cost is reasonable. On the way there, noticed how nice it was walking on the streets, as today was Buddah's holiday, and many street vendors were not set up. Not sure if they take the day off, or it is a law. (anyone know? ).
Good selection at Angel, but some of my past fav's were off or busy. I chose Rina, had seen her before. Nice natural 36D's! She is a little heavy, nice face (although the pic is airbrushed). And good personality. She gives you a genuine real massage. (I think she cracked every bone in my back). Was supposed to be off today, but mamasan called her in, and offered her 2 days off in return. I guess they were busy for the holiday.
After the good backside massage, turned over, and said she had to go to the bathroom. Was gone about 5 minutes it seemed, as I drank my beer. When she came back, she ever so gently, started kissing, licking, sucking my balls, and had my full attention. Nice slow BJ, thought I was going to blow, but held off. She turned around, and put some lube on her ass, so I assume she wanted some anal play, and I was right. Only could get 2 fingers in. As she continued to suck me. Then the condom was on and she mounted me reverse cowboy. Not more than 3 minutes, she pulled me out, and put me in her ass. She was really into it.
(and so was I). Rolled over, and positioned her kneeling on the bed, and me standing and continued, and continued, and continued. She was trying to keep control, but was moaning and saying things in Thai. I thought she was in pain, so I pulled out, and she immediately reached back and put me back in. Not sure how long, but it seemed like an hour (was not, maybe 15 minutes). She finally collapsed, but noticed I did not come, and got me to kneel next to her, as she gave me a BJ, and put my figure back in her ass.
Whew. Great experience. And not what I expected. She did not do this last time I was with her. I assume her trip to the bathroom, was to ready herself for the anal.
She commented how she likes a nice size, and how strong I was. And that I lasted longer than 6 Japanese guys together. LOL
I gave her 2000. It was well worth it to me.
Now got a text message from the non working girl and she wants to see me. I told her to come to my room about 10pm, how I will recover my then.
2 1/2 days to go.
Guys,
A friend has a layover for 4 hours and wants to get a massage with a happy ending. Bang Na is the nearest place but I'm not familiar with massage places there. Anyone can make any recommendations? Sorry running short of time and heading for dinner thus no time to read the FRs and the buggers are landing tomorrow.
"A friend has a layover for 4 hours and wants to get a massage with a happy ending. Bang Na is the nearest place but I'm not familiar with massage places there. Anyone can make any recommendations?"
I see no one has given your friend the bad news. He just flat doesn't have the time, even late at night, to get off the plane, get through immigration and customs, get a taxi, go anywhere, do anything, return to the airport, and re-enter the departure terminal.
[QUOTE=Acerboy]Guys,
A friend has a layover for 4 hours and wants to get a massage with a happy ending. Bang Na is the nearest place but I'm not familiar with massage places there. Anyone can make any recommendations? Sorry running short of time and heading for dinner thus no time to read the FRs and the buggers are landing tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
I would never ever layover less than 1 day.
Thats Rina down to a tee. She loves anal, and that is her normal way of getting you in there, lots of lube, lots of sliding that ass over you, reverse cowgirl and then she pops you in, you have no choice really. I think she is a little bit into BDSM myself.
And yes, apart from the anal fun, she does give a bloody good massage. Not the smallest or lightest of girls, but certainly big in the fun department.
[QUOTE=Mark17]I posted this on another board, but those of you that do not read it.
Back in BKK again (on business, although not too heavy of a work load this time).
Arrived on Friday late afternoon. And sent a message to a girl I know from Tulip, for her to come to my hotel. No response.
Ended up bar hopping and picked up a FL. Ok, but nothing to write home about.
Sat, I got a message from my Tulip girl, and asked her to come to my hotel. She called me back and said she could come, but it was a bad time of month. She was "dirty" and did not think I would like that. She offered backside, but I said I will contact her a few days later.
Tried one of Noi's girls, she advertises on Bangkok to***.com classifieds. Girl was what was in the picture. And advertised as a new girl. Well she was. Fairly mechanical. No chemistry. Has to direct her most of the way.
For evening fun, I called a girl that I normally see in town. Not a working girl. And met her at the Landmark bar. Listened to a few sets, then she want to "see my room" She is kind of shy, so it is fun, but once she gets going she is horny. She says she does not see other guys, although always gets hit on, but is "afraid". Had a good night, but she said she had to get up very early to do something, so she left about 1:30.
Sunday, I took it easy, and just shot some pool. Was tempted by a girl at Tequila, that keeps asking me to barfine her. She gave me her number, and said she would see me later. Maybe she figured I did not want to pay the bf. (which I did not). But ended up hitting a few more bars and rested.
Monday, well I had to work, but finished up about 3. Headed to Angels on Soi 26. Have not been there in awhile, but always got good service, and the cost is reasonable. On the way there, noticed how nice it was walking on the streets, as today was Buddah's holiday, and many street vendors were not set up. Not sure if they take the day off, or it is a law. (anyone know? ).
Good selection at Angel, but some of my past fav's were off or busy. I chose Rina, had seen her before. Nice natural 36D's! She is a little heavy, nice face (although the pic is airbrushed). And good personality. She gives you a genuine real massage. (I think she cracked every bone in my back). Was supposed to be off today, but mamasan called her in, and offered her 2 days off in return. I guess they were busy for the holiday.
After the good backside massage, turned over, and said she had to go to the bathroom. Was gone about 5 minutes it seemed, as I drank my beer. When she came back, she ever so gently, started kissing, licking, sucking my balls, and had my full attention. Nice slow BJ, thought I was going to blow, but held off. She turned around, and put some lube on her ass, so I assume she wanted some anal play, and I was right. Only could get 2 fingers in. As she continued to suck me. Then the condom was on and she mounted me reverse cowboy. Not more than 3 minutes, she pulled me out, and put me in her ass. She was really into it.
(and so was I). Rolled over, and positioned her kneeling on the bed, and me standing and continued, and continued, and continued. She was trying to keep control, but was moaning and saying things in Thai. I thought she was in pain, so I pulled out, and she immediately reached back and put me back in. Not sure how long, but it seemed like an hour (was not, maybe 15 minutes). She finally collapsed, but noticed I did not come, and got me to kneel next to her, as she gave me a BJ, and put my figure back in her ass.
Whew. Great experience. And not what I expected. She did not do this last time I was with her. I assume her trip to the bathroom, was to ready herself for the anal.
She commented how she likes a nice size, and how strong I was. And that I lasted longer than 6 Japanese guys together. LOL
I gave her 2000. It was well worth it to me.
Now got a text message from the non working girl and she wants to see me. I told her to come to my room about 10pm, how I will recover my then.
2 1/2 days to go.[/QUOTE]
Hi Everyone,
I am going to Bangkok in 2 weeks and would like to take this opportunity to have fun After checking it seems the right place to me is Eden Club. Do you confirm the Choice?
I enjoy GFE and would like 2 girls, including 1 enjoying anal. Any advices on names in the Eden club?
Any other place, including girls number?
I'll try to compare to shanghi service, I'm sure Bangkok is well ranked.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hi Everyone,
I am going to Bangkok in 2 weeks and would like to take this opportunity to have fun After checking it seems the right place to me is Eden Club. Do you confirm the Choice?
I enjoy GFE and would like 2 girls, including 1 enjoying anal. Any advices on names in the Eden club?
Any other place, including girls number?
I'll try to compare to shanghi service, I'm sure Bangkok is well ranked.[/QUOTE]
Don't get your hopes up too high for the Eden Club. It's interesting and worth a visit, but there are more interesting and better experiences to be had in BKK. Eden specializes in 2 girl/anal. But, IMHO there are way more attractive girls to be had.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I would never ever layover less than 1 day.[/QUOTE]
12 hours would be enough, but less than that isn't worth it.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hi Everyone,
I am going to Bangkok in 2 weeks and would like to take this opportunity to have fun After checking it seems the right place to me is Eden Club. Do you confirm the Choice?
I enjoy GFE and would like 2 girls, including 1 enjoying anal. Any advices on names in the Eden club?
Any other place, including girls number?
I'll try to compare to shanghi service, I'm sure Bangkok is well ranked.[/QUOTE]IMHO Edan serves purpose if your looking for a easy find 3way. Good girl on girl expereinces are hit and miss, if thats what your looking for and your looking for it fast then hit up edan. If your looking for a higher quality of girls then youll have do a little searching to find two that will provide you a simular experience to the edan. I've had my best succes finding first one adventurous bg that is game for some 3way, keep her for a couple of rounds by herself and then let her suggest a freind or take her out hunting with you. Unfortenatly it is however very hit and miss to find 2 girls completly into it and compatable and for me its usually more head ache then its worth. I prefer to plug several stunners in a day as apposed to 2 not so stunnerish girls at once.
Not saying the edan girls are mutts but most of them are under 6's IMHO.
Had stayed in BKK for 6 nights. Was there to settle some work and there after wanted a short break.
Took a taxi from airport to Eastin hotel (near to chilom BTS). Toll + meter + airport charge set me back about 275 bht.
I had booked eastin via the internet and got it at a very good rate of only about 10000 bht nett for 6 nights. Its newly renovated and definitely girl friendly. Only thing is the hotel is not near any BTS. Usually have to take taxi out of hotel.
Places I visited include the Bed. Many girls there. Some FL. Nice club with many foreign models.
Santika. This disco is located at Ekkamai. Many normal thai girl go there and you could get lucky there.
Scratch dog. Located at windors suite hotel. Open till 4am. Basically it get real crowded after 2am. The action was hot with lots of babes.
Banyan Tree Maxx. Behind esplanade (near to BTS Thailand cultural centre) many young puyings here and some look absolutely gorgeous.
Also tried Spicy and boss. After hours club but a bit too sleazy for my liking.
Massage. Tried this one called thonglor massage at sukhumvit soi 24. Great ambience and the gal do know a thing or two about massage. Not your strictly pay and fark joint. Would highly recommend this place.
Bars. Visited patpong. Kings corner.. Some gorgeous ladies but they are confirm lady boys. Bought some imitiation stuff at patpong night market. A good shopping haven.
. Spasso at grand hyatt & conrad hotel. Up market bar with some cool looking freelance here. Got some contacts here and members please pm me if you are keen.
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Went on a pub crawl with a mate of mine yesterday. Hit several places then crashed at home.
Gulliver's -- I'd never been to this place in Nana. I'd say 99% of the girls here are freelancers. Some are real lookers, too! It's pretty much just a meat market, but it's rather entertaining to just sit down and watch.
Nana - This place sucks. It's really gone downhill. The carpark was full of desperate girls (along with some LBs) - maybe 1 or 2 lookers. Anyway, went inside a go-go next to Rainbow (which was overcrowded). The problem with the gogos here is that none of the girls will go topless. So I'm paying 135 baht a beer to watch some yaba girls dance around in their underwear. Could be worse, I guess.
Soi Cowboy -- Went inside Suzi Wong's. Got a good seat up in front for the lesbian show. Other than that, it was pretty dead in there. The place has gone downhill in the last few months, or maybe we just went on a bad night. The one hot girl in there I did talk to couldn't get past the My name is.....How old are you....basic conversations. She was 28, had beautiful fake tits. Nong is her name I think.
Left Suzi Wong's and went over to Afterskool, a BJ bar. Now there's a scam in here that needs some attention. I walk in, sit down, and a little hottie comes up to me. We chat for a bit, and she asks if she can have a drink. I oblige, and then she asks "Tequila and soda - okay?" Sure, that's fine. The whole time I think it's just ONE drink. I didn't look at the bill because I figure it's just one drink. Well, after a while I'm set to leave and I look at the bill and notice that it's TWO drinks - Tequila AND soda water. Fucking bullshit. I told her that it was very bad what she did, and I wouldn't be coming back. Lesson learned --- look at your bill when the drink comes!
[QUOTE=Mangofan]
I didn't look at the bill because I figure it's just one drink. Well, after a while I'm set to leave and I look at the bill and notice that it's TWO drinks - Tequila AND soda water. Fucking bullshit. I told her that it was very bad what she did, and I wouldn't be coming back. Lesson learned --- look at your bill when the drink comes![/QUOTE]
Lesson learned: always pay for each round of drinks when served and never run a tab. It's just a license to rip-off the customer.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]12 hours would be enough, but less than that isn't worth it.[/QUOTE]
You're posting a lot lately!
Does this mean that, like me, you are not getting enough sex? :D
[QUOTE=Mangofan]Went on a pub crawl with a mate of mine yesterday. Hit several places then crashed at home.
Gulliver's -- I'd never been to this place in Nana. I'd say 99% of the girls here are freelancers. Some are real lookers, too! It's pretty much just a meat market, but it's rather entertaining to just sit down and watch.
Nana - This place sucks. It's really gone downhill. The carpark was full of desperate girls (along with some LBs) - maybe 1 or 2 lookers. Anyway, went inside a go-go next to Rainbow (which was overcrowded). The problem with the gogos here is that none of the girls will go topless. So I'm paying 135 baht a beer to watch some yaba girls dance around in their underwear. Could be worse, I guess.
Soi Cowboy -- Went inside Suzi Wong's. Got a good seat up in front for the lesbian show. Other than that, it was pretty dead in there. The place has gone downhill in the last few months, or maybe we just went on a bad night. The one hot girl in there I did talk to couldn't get past the My name is.....How old are you....basic conversations. She was 28, had beautiful fake tits. Nong is her name I think.
Left Suzi Wong's and went over to Afterskool, a BJ bar. Now there's a scam in here that needs some attention. I walk in, sit down, and a little hottie comes up to me. We chat for a bit, and she asks if she can have a drink. I oblige, and then she asks "Tequila and soda - okay?" Sure, that's fine. The whole time I think it's just ONE drink. I didn't look at the bill because I figure it's just one drink. Well, after a while I'm set to leave and I look at the bill and notice that it's TWO drinks - Tequila AND soda water. Fucking bullshit. I told her that it was very bad what she did, and I wouldn't be coming back. Lesson learned --- look at your bill when the drink comes![/QUOTE]
One of the girls in that Suzy Wong's show, Neuong (with a tatoo around her waist) can be a good lay when she is not lazy. The whole BKK scene sucks big time. We are left to deal with Isaan rejects with bad attitude. And these women are not the ones to blame. They simply adjusted their attitude to numerous Casanovas gliding into town with open pockets. Last time in Beergarten some 30's something fairly cute gal quoted me 5000ST. She decided to take a chance. I started laughing so hard she took it down to 1000 baht immediately. I decided to take a pass and took a girl who was a first timer there. I know what you are thinking - no, really a first-timer, as her friend who translated suggested. Back in the room she did everything she was asked. I even did my Max Hardcore routine on her. In the morning, when the time came she asked for permission to leave. Cost 2500bt including tip (yes I know, if you can consider it to be a good deal for Thailand). As she was leaving I was thinking about how many days it would take her to turn mercenary. With a crowd I saw on the streets and the usual hangouts I'd say she'll be taking her chances with fools in no time. More and more people with cowboy boots and heavy breathing. And why do so many punters humiliate themselves in a place like Thermae where any girl worth a second look talks only to the Japanese. After that I wouldn't even take them home for free. Just like the upscale massage parlours with so called models, where the service is 50/50 and you have to pay a farang surcharge. A girl in Tulip that does anal (Nestle) was bragging she makes more money than a doctor. Although good, her service was appropriately mechanical. What's happening to Bangkok? Couldn't even bring myself up to include it in my currently on-going mongering trip. I used to love the place.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]You're posting a lot lately!
Does this mean that, like me, you are not getting enough sex? :D[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the little woman is gone for a while and I am bored. So, I have two choices: 1) stay at home and be a good boy, or 2) not...
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hi Everyone,
I am going to Bangkok in 2 weeks and would like to take this opportunity to have fun After checking it seems the right place to me is Eden Club. Do you confirm the Choice?
I enjoy GFE and would like 2 girls, including 1 enjoying anal. Any advices on names in the Eden club?
Any other place, including girls number?
I'll try to compare to shanghi service, I'm sure Bangkok is well ranked.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. Eden is your place. I'm talking about their in-house service. Just make sure you take control and don't let the girls choose the routine for you. As far as comparing the level of service in Thailand to China, there is no comparison. China wins hands down.
Hello,
Can anyone recomend a taylor to buy custom made suits and shirts in Bangkok? I'll be looking around Nana Plaza for a taylor around May 26-27.
Any help apriciated!
Thanks!
Belmont
[QUOTE=Tulip777]Absolutely. Eden is your place. I'm talking about their in-house service. Just make sure you take control and don't let the girls choose the routine for you. As far as comparing the level of service in Thailand to China, there is no comparison. China wins hands down.[/QUOTE]I'm a little surprised, I thought Service in Thailand was higher... and cheaper. Anyway, I will only be in thailand 2 days so I don't want to take a chance and be disapointed, therefore I'll go to the Eden Club
Thanks all for the feedback
Any advices as far as girls names or numbers?
[QUOTE=Belmont]Hello,
Can anyone recomend a taylor to buy custom made suits and shirts in Bangkok? I'll be looking around Nana Plaza for a taylor around May 26-27.
Any help apriciated!
Thanks!
Belmont[/QUOTE]
Read the "Living in Thailand" thread.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hi Everyone,
I am going to Bangkok in 2 weeks and would like to take this opportunity to have fun After checking it seems the right place to me is Eden Club. Do you confirm the Choice?
I enjoy GFE and would like 2 girls, including 1 enjoying anal. Any advices on names in the Eden club?
Any other place, including girls number?
[/QUOTE]
Eden is good for PSE but not really GFE
See also Tulip in the BKK MPs thread for PSE.
SOL (Star of Light) is another good place to get multiple girls for a PSE.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]I'm a little surprised, I thought Service in Thailand was higher... and cheaper. Anyway, I will only be in thailand 2 days so I don't want to take a chance and be disapointed, therefore I'll go to the Eden Club
Thanks all for the feedback
Any advices as far as girls names or numbers?[/QUOTE]
Rose, who didn't do anal can provide GFE. She was there 3 months ago - great ass for a Thai. Moo or Mu, if she is still there, who does anal is pretty good too. Insist on a full line-up. If you don't like what you see then come back. I've seen good line-ups there around 1:30 and 5 o'clock in the afternoon but it's always hit or miss. Again, don't let them take control of the situation. You make sure you tell them what to do. Tell them to go down on one another or use a strap-on etc. You can also get a single lady out for LT for 3000baht from 10-6 in the morning. She'll come to your room at 10 pm. But they typically try to make you have a great time, have you cum as many times as you can, and then bail well before 6 o'clock. Not all but 50%+ from my experience. But I've always liked Eden. If you think Thailand is cheaper you are in for a surprise.
Hey guys,
I've read back a good 20+ to 30 threads and I must say it has been very informative and I've learned quite a fair bit. Thanks in advance to anyone who has contributed (bar the few pages with the PurpleHaze fiasco of course).
Anyhow, I've also randomly skimmed through the thread in 2 or 3 pages at a time and I was unable to find some info I was looking for.
1. If I was looking for an absolute stunner, a good 9/10 and young as well which I can pay for LT, where would I go and how do I go about doing it? I would expect to spend about 5000. 7000BHT for LT? Is that reasonable?
2. If I wanted to go to a local club where there are girls and the prospect of getting lucky through some efforts and drinks, where would I go? Of course if this fails, I can go to the place recommended as above in (1).
3. Any other general places to recommend? I've read quite abit about Beer Garden here but 20+ mothers not very appealing.
Once again, thanks in advance to anyone who helps answer these queries as I will be flying into Bangkok next week and I hope to have a great time!
Will definitely contribute in return my positive or hopefully not negative experiences in this lovely city many of you call home!
Thanks again. Regards,
Kenster
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[QUOTE=Sixty Cent] I will only be in thailand 2 days so I don't want to take a chance and be disapointed, therefore I'll go to the Eden Club
[/QUOTE]
Disapointment is the difference between expectations and reality. If you don't expect too much from the Eden Club you won't be disapointed.
[QUOTE=Tulip777] I've seen good line-ups there around 1:30 and 5 o'clock in the afternoon but it's always hit or miss.[/QUOTE]
For the best selection get to The Eden right when they open and be the first customer.
Thanks all for the help. Well nobody said anything about a place where I can get real GFE (DFK etc.)?
Of course, in exchange I give my hints to anyone who wants to try in Shanghai. Real GFE, PSE etc.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hi Everyone,
I am going to Bangkok in 2 weeks and would like to take this opportunity to have fun After checking it seems the right place to me is Eden Club. Do you confirm the Choice?
I enjoy GFE and would like 2 girls, including 1 enjoying anal. Any advices on names in the Eden club?
[/QUOTE]
The girl in the picture is Wa, number 16 (I believe) at Eden. She does anal, is very fluent in English and can give a great GFE. Besides the previously mentioned Mu, other good backdoor girls include Jen, Dao and Nan Nan. On the right side of the yellow line, i.e., the girls that don't do anal, Apple, Kitty, Nok, Lin and Lek all give GFE. A friend highly recommends a new girl named Anna (that's what he said her name was), but I haven't had the pleasure of her company.
The difficulty with a GFE at Eden during the inhouse 90-minute sessions is that there is a lot which has to happen if the guy is expecting a pornstar experience. It doesn't leave a lot of time to build up the rapport which is necessary for a GFE. But if you take one or two ladies overnight, then it is much more likely to turn into a GFE.
I wrote about one such experience here: [Url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=503329&postcount=1283]The Angels of Eden[/url]. It's a long report and if you don't want to read the whole thing, just skip down to the final two paragraphs and you'll see what I mean. Bambi and Thumper weren't working at Eden at the end of March when I was last there, but Thumper (aka Gina, Gaow) has left and returned to Eden a half dozen times in the years I've known her. Bambi has stopped working and gone back two or three times, so it's not impossible one or both are at Eden now. They are experts at anal.
I've had plenty of girl-friend experiences with Eden ladies. It amazed me the degree to which they opened up about their lives. I've been to some of their homes and met their families. They've shown me considerations in large ways and small that go beyond a commercial experience. Thumper stayed with me once when I was very ill and didn't ask for a baht in compensation, even though she'd lost money because she missed work. I have had Eden ladies insist on sewing on buttons or iron my shirts. Some have cooked dinner for me. On one memorable occasion, two Eden ladies were giving me a blow job on the bed while a third ironed the shirt was going to wear that day and a fourth packed my suitcase.
Show them respect, give them a fair chance and they'll give you a GFE in return.
I've included other pictures of Wa, Thumper and other Eden ladies in earlier posts.
Evil
Hello,
Can some one repost monger map of Bangkok? It needs to be reposted!
I have seen some excelent maps here of bangkok, areas of interest.
It is not easy to scrool thru 149 pages then previous year of posts to find!
I went thru 300 pages last night looking for info. Also needed is address for thermae!
THANKS a TON! HRTFF
Belmont
[QUOTE=Mark17]I
Now got a text message from the non working girl and she wants to see me. I told her to come to my room about 10pm, how I will recover my then.
2 1/2 days to go.[/QUOTE]Follow up from last evening. I know people will think I am making things up. But another to write in my memoirs some day.
I mentioned, I got a text from the non working girl, and arranged for her to meet me at 10pm in my room. So I hopefully had enough time to recover.
Had some business phone calls to make, then went down to the Huntsman club in the basement of the Landmark for a beer before she was to arrive.
(Had a bottle of wine in the room for us.) She calls me at 9:30 asking where I am, and says she ran into her Malaysian friend in the lobby of the hotel. And she wanted to talk to her. She mentioned this girl in the past, she is a professional, travels to Singapore and BKK routinely. 15 minutes later, they both come down to the bar. There was only one seat next to me, so we moved to a table. I asked the guy that I was talking to next to me to join us, but he declined. Long story short, the Malaysian girl proposes the three of us go up to my room, and when I look at my Thai friend she nods with approval. The Malaysian girl asked for $100. And I don't agree or disagree.
I know my Thai friend likes girls, at least to look at them, but is shy, and really wanted to experience something new.
Up to the room, and the Malaysian, asks if there are any sexy movies on the TV, and I say no, but I have a DVD. I load one in and go to a scene with two girls and one guy. The Malaysian does a good job to loosen up my friend. Had to feed her about three glasses of wine, before she stopped giggling, and was coaching her when watching the video. See, this is what we do to him. Etc etc. The Thai girl began to relax and truely enjoy.
Both of them were having a good time, I joined in some, and they paid some attention to me. And I was ok, because still fairly drained and enjoyed watching them go at it. My Thai friend, kept wanting to go to the bed saying "you fuck me now". (I had a suite room and we were on the couch in the living room).
Finally to the bed. And they decide I do the Malaysian first. She appeared to cum, but not sure, as she is a pro. Then change the hat, and onto the Thai girl, with the Malaysian continuing to kiss and fondle the Thai girl.
I last a long time, but cannot cum.
Rest awhile, and they decide that I need to cum as I made both of them. And another round. I finally fake I cum, just to end it, as I am completely spent by this time.
They decide to go back to the Thai girl's apartment, which was fine with me.
Not sure how I will top yesterday's daytime and nightime experiences. As they were both spontaneous. Could not have planned them better, except to be a day apart.
Maybe hang out in the Bier Garden this afternoon. I have had my eye on a small sweet thing there in the past, maybe she will show up today.
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Follow up with my last two nights.
My Thai friend messaged me the next day, but I told her I needed to recover, and was leaving early the next morning (actually stayed one more day).
So the next day, I was a bit tired, and decided to lay low, and went down to the Huntsman bar. Met a guy there that I saw the other night, and he was new to BKK. So I took him out to show him a few places. Beir garden. (nothing there. Mostly older girls). Guilevers. (some potentials, but was just looking). Showed him where Eden was at, and stopped in one of the bars nearby. Then went to shoot some pool. There is a girl there that sets the balls. Etc, and has been nicely asking me to bar fine her. Ended up leaving at closing time, and arranged for her to meet me up at the bar by the Nana parking lot. 10 min later she showed up, with another girl. The guy I was with decided to stay and survey the parking lot and we went back to the room.
Actually, I felt kind of funny, as I knew this girl for awhile, and she was like a friend. Sort of like going out with your sister? We started to shower together, and I commented that she should trim her bush. She asked me if I would do it for her. Then said she wanted me to shave everything off.
Of course I agreed. And proceeded. Damn, lots of hair, and tough. Just about wore out one blade. But managed to get the job done. A little stubble, but generally ok.
Had some nice dining at the Y, She was excellent with her BJ technique, and managed to finish me off at that point. She had agreed to 1500 for ST only. But we both fell asleep, and she spent the night. Nice morning wake up round.
Last night, for sure I decided to relax and just shoot pool. No way, ended up the same routine with the same girl, met her after closing down the street.
I had a new razor and shaved her again nice and smooth, then gave her the hotel razor, and told her to keep it this way, and I will check when I return. Ended up spending the night. Again with a nice BJ. And fell asleep together. When she was walking out the door in the morning, without asking for cash. I stopped her and gave her 1500.
Now in Shanghai. And I think I will maybe go to the sauna this afternoon, and rest up tonight before returning home.
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[QUOTE=Belmont]Hello,
Can some one repost monger map of Bangkok? It needs to be reposted!
I have seen some excelent maps here of bangkok, areas of interest.
It is not easy to scrool thru 149 pages then previous year of posts to find!
I went thru 300 pages last night looking for info. Also needed is address for thermae!
THANKS a TON! HRTFF
Belmont[/QUOTE]
One of the other forum members made one up a while ago and posted it on the forum. So I know there is one. Do a little research and you should find it, or pehaps another member has a link to it.
[QUOTE=Belmont]Hello,
Can some one repost monger map of Bangkok? It needs to be reposted!
I have seen some excelent maps here of bangkok, areas of interest.
It is not easy to scrool thru 149 pages then previous year of posts to find!
I went thru 300 pages last night looking for info. Also needed is address for thermae!
THANKS a TON! HRTFF
Belmont[/QUOTE]
You need to improve your ISG and web searching skills.
Here is the Bangkok Fun MPs Map with Thermae added to it right in the middle. Hope I am close enough without being there right this moment.
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.737843,100.560994&spn=0.015549,0.028667&z=16[/url]
Its downstairs at Ruam Chit Plaza in Sukhumwit road quite close to Soi 15 these days. Probably exactly half way between Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.
In the old better days it was close to Soi 13 and had a Soapy Fishbowl at ground level.
[url]http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/temple/1107/index.html[/url]
Greetings.
I am no Thai regular, but have transited overnight in Bangkok and will likley do so again. My last visit, I checked out Pat Pong and Nana and was suprized to see that there was no smoking in the bars.
Can anyone offer advice (besides to quit) about any smoker-friendly venues?
Are the big entertainment spa centers smoke free?
I admit that I am kind of big baby when I cannot smoke especially if I am drinking.
Thank you.
I have found it hit and miss, some let u, some dont. One I can remember that does is Joy Bar in Soi Cowboy.
Best to ask before u walk in or have a look round for ash trays whern u poke ur head in the door
[QUOTE=Verde99]Greetings.
I am no Thai regular, but have transited overnight in Bangkok and will likley do so again. My last visit, I checked out Pat Pong and Nana and was suprized to see that there was no smoking in the bars.
Can anyone offer advice (besides to quit) about any smoker-friendly venues?
Are the big entertainment spa centers smoke free?
I admit that I am kind of big baby when I cannot smoke especially if I am drinking.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Maaars]I have found it hit and miss, some let u, some dont. One I can remember that does is Joy Bar in Soi Cowboy.
Best to ask before u walk in or have a look round for ash trays whern u poke ur head in the door[/QUOTE]
Like most civilized countries in the world, smoking in public places is prohibited by law. Now, I don't know about private bars and clubs, there you may be able to smoke.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Thanks all for the help. Well nobody said anything about a place where I can get real GFE (DFK etc.)?
[/QUOTE]
It depends a bit on how you define Girl Friend Experience. If you're using the term in its narrow sense to mean a provider who allows Deep French Kissing and foreplay, then GFE is certainly available from every lady in Eden, incall or outcall. It's also widely available with just about every other provider in LOS.
However, to many LOS veterans, GFE has a broader meaning, especially for non-U.S. punters. It's more in line with its literal meaning, i.e., the girl provides the illusion - which on occasion becomes reality - of a non-commercial encounter. It's more like "going out" with girl, except you know it's going to end in bed and she'll be paid for services. In my original reply to your question, I was mostly referring to GFE in its broader sense.
Acronyms like GFE, DFK, CIM, BBBJ, COF, DATY, etc. first appeared in U.S. publications that allowed ads for sexual services. Some are literal and there's no mistaking what they mean. In the U.S., the term GFE was often used to designate providers who "went beyond" the Street Walker level. SWs almost never allow kissing or foreplay and very often have extremely tough attitudes. Many incall places in the U.S. followed the same pattern, essentially featuring Hunt's Point or Tenderloin-style SWs who worked indoors. By using the term GFE in an ad, the provider was trying to say, "I'm not like that."
But in LOS, and everywhere else, Your Mileage May Vary - except at the Eden Club. That's the one place where you always know the service will be of the highest standard. Opinions vary about the looks of the ladies, but the service is uniformly excellent.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]But in LOS, and everywhere else, Your Mileage May Vary - except at the Eden Club. That's the one place where you always know the service will be of the highest standard. Opinions vary about the looks of the ladies, but the service is uniformly excellent.
Evil[/QUOTE]
And since you get to pick them in Eden, there should be no complaint. No one forces you to stay. No choice is certainly a valid choice. If the quality is not up to your standard, the door is right there.
I always managed to find someone decent if I went early. The problem is often with the second girl. And that is where the question becomes do you let her pick the 2nd or do you. When you let her pick, you are more likely to get someone she likes to work with. When you pick the 2nd, the chemistry may not always be as good between the two girls.
Mick,
Thanks!
When I search Thermae, OR Map, in thailand, I get hundeds of pages in various thai boards. Then I have to scroll over and over again looking for red type(my match).
Is there a better, easier way? I'd appriciate any tips.
THANKS,
Belmont
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]You need to improve your ISG and web searching skills.
Here is the Bangkok Fun MPs Map with Thermae added to it right in the middle. Hope I am close enough without being there right this moment.
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.737843,100.560994&spn=0.015549,0.028667&z=16[/url]
Its downstairs at Ruam Chit Plaza in Sukhumwit road quite close to Soi 15 these days. Probably exactly half way between Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.
In the old better days it was close to Soi 13 and had a Soapy Fishbowl at ground level.
[url]http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/temple/1107/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]It's also widely available with just about every other provider in LOS.
[/QUOTE]
This is worth repeating, especially in light of recent rounds of whining about rising prices. If you're in LOS, count your blessings. You could be stuck in Bumfuck, Iowa, whacking off to the Thursday night HBO naked-weirdo shows on cable TV.
Not everyone in Thailand will give you a warm fuzzy experience but if you use just a little bit of charm and pay just a little bit of attention to the vibe you're getting back, your experience will be on a completely different plane than anything you're likely to run across in Europe or North America.
This does require that you treat your friendly provider with respect, which unfortunately is a bit of a reach for some mongering assholes.
Just keep your valuables locked in the safe. :-)
[QUOTE=Belmont]Mick,
Thanks!
When I search Thermae, OR Map, in thailand, I get hundeds of pages in various thai boards. Then I have to scroll over and over again looking for red type(my match).
Is there a better, easier way? I'd appriciate any tips.
THANKS,
Belmont[/QUOTE]
Searching requires some thinking using well chosen words to narrow the search.
In ISG BKK thread, can click on "Search This Thread" and enter:
find Thermae
A few usful posts will come up.
Results gave this one for example:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=710953&highlight=find+Thermae#post710953[/url]
Could have tried "location Thermae" Search
In "Reports of Distinction" I searched for Map and found this useful post:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=466299&highlight=Map#post466299[/url]
It recommends
[url]http://www.cityphotoguide.com/[/url]
In there search for Thermae. Click on the result gets this Thermae - Ruamchitt Plaza page with photo and Map:
[url]http://www.cityphotoguide.com/node/501[/url]
Whoops. Its not a Map but an Aerial Photo (Satellite)
In Google, search for:
Thermae Bangkok
Top of the list is this one:
[url]http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/temple/1107/[/url]
Click on "Thermae Links"
See the useful bit:
"http://www.asiatravel.com/ruamchitt/
Where is Thermae Coffee House? under the Ruamchitt Plaza & Hotel.
This site is not very interesting, but if you already tried everithing,
maybe the ultimate experience can be sleeping over the Thermae..."
Click on that web site and get the Hotel Rates. Click on "Location" and get the MAP:
[url]http://www.asiatravel.com/ruamchitt/v3.html[/url]
I googled "Ruamchit Plaza Thermae" and clicked on MIDNITE HOUR. Got some great Thermae Pics:
[url]http://www.bangkokeyes.com/2006aug01.html[/url]
(find text Thermae)
Now another tack. Go to Google Maps. In the top "Search the Map" box, type in "Thermae, Bangkok, Thailand" without the quotes and click Search Maps.
Beware that many people put pins in the wrong place.
But hopefully some entries in the Search results will be close.
In the ISG general Search Panel you can search for all useful monger Maps by using search word "Map"
and restricting search to Thailand and all sub forums, and getting "results as posts".
So Search for stuff regularly and your skills can improve.
Choose Search words carefully. Try alternate spellings for Thai words, e.g.
Ruamchit
Ruamchitt
Ruam Chit
Ruam Chitt
In Google Maps and ISG, near spellings do not work.
Hi,
After the conclusion of my third trip to this amazing city Bangkok since 2007, I still feel the city just having so much to offer and definitely earn the next comeback holiday/vacation.
The Nana entertainment plaza with the rainbow 4 is filled with some hot girls. The BF is still at 600baht and the girls want 2000ST or 4000 LT. But it is a Hit or Miss when all said and done. Hollywood bar I found couple gem in the rough and with a more relax atmosphere than Rainbow 4.
Yes, the No Smoking is up at all bars now. Personally, I think that is quite a good thing due to the fire hazard conditions surrounding the whole complex and to the health of all other in crowded bars. The Annie's MP. Is a value place to enjoy a decent session with the girl at 1, 500baht. I also like other
Thai's M. P. With more of local taste and this is really keep driving me back to Bangkok. I did not even bother to pay a visit Patpong.
The soi cowboy bars were less people this time of year as they said it is a low season. But the price is still hold in Deja Vu and others. I also enjoyed the band at Country road bar.
Finally, Bangkok is trully the Vibrant capital entertainements and worth every baht that I sent to the Thai's economy enterprises.
some notes from this past weekend:
on friday we went over to soi cowboy again. went inside baccara, but that place is way too crowded and the girls were wearing clothes. full of japanese customers, so i assume the prices are quite high anyway. walked out after spending 5 minutes looking for a seat.
went over to deja vu. this is an okay joint but the girls are either a.) past their prime, or b.) only interested in talking to their friends. the "show" that the so-called "showgirls" put on was rubbing lotion on themseves. it wasn't hot at all. so we went over to suzi wong's and caught the lesbian show again.
decided to check out the wank bars and went into jungle gym (or is it jim?). most of these girls are around 30, with some in their 40s. i sat and had a beer while my friend got a wank. he bought the two girls drinks and tipped them 120 baht each. went into another wank bar by suzi wong's (forget the name). i bought two girls drinks but they wanted 500 baht each plus 2 more drinks for a wank job. fuck that.
on saturday headed over to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on soi 8. i chose a young 22 year-old hottie that was sitting out front. dao was her name (i think). went upstairs and pulled the curtain. she took her top off and gave me a nice bj. a little rough with the teeth, but pretty good all the same. on the way out i noticed that there were very obvious cum stains on the curtains. yuck!!! i tipped the girl 150 baht.
This is especially true when visiting a soapy/oil massage where the girls line up. The ones that are looking at the floor or not smiling are NOT interested in going with you and picking them will result in sub-standard service. This seems pretty obvious advice but just ask the girls how many times they get picked when "me no smile" as they.
I remember once I was in Akane Chitlom and I was chatting with the girls as I waited for my girl to finish with her customer. I go there about once a month so I'm friendly with most of the girls there. A customer walked in and sat down so the girls all lined up in front of him and what suprised me was how quickly some of them changed their body language.
Once girl in particular looked like she was about to die. Her whole demure and body language and the look on her face suggested she was sick as hell. But as soon as the customer made his decision and left she completely changed and perked right up and continued our converstaion as if nothing happened.
So pay attention to body language, it could mean the difference between a GFE or not.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]This is worth repeating, especially in light of recent rounds of whining about rising prices. If you're in LOS, count your blessings. You could be stuck in Bumfuck, Iowa, whacking off to the Thursday night HBO naked-weirdo shows on cable TV.
Not everyone in Thailand will give you a warm fuzzy experience but if you use just a little bit of charm and pay just a little bit of attention to the vibe you're getting back, your experience will be on a completely different plane than anything you're likely to run across in Europe or North America.
This does require that you treat your friendly provider with respect, which unfortunately is a bit of a reach for some mongering assholes.
Just keep your valuables locked in the safe. :-)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Perish]Had stayed in BKK for 6 nights. Was there to settle some work and there after wanted a short break.
Took a taxi from airport to Eastin hotel (near to chilom BTS). Toll + meter + airport charge set me back about 275 bht.
I had booked eastin via the internet and got it at a very good rate of only about 10000 bht nett for 6 nights. Its newly renovated and definitely girl friendly. Only thing is the hotel is not near any BTS. Usually have to take taxi out of hotel.
Places I visited include the Bed. Many girls there. Some FL. Nice club with many foreign models.
Santika. This disco is located at Ekkamai. Many normal thai girl go there and you could get lucky there.
Scratch dog. Located at windors suite hotel. Open till 4am. Basically it get real crowded after 2am. The action was hot with lots of babes.
Banyan Tree Maxx. Behind esplanade (near to BTS Thailand cultural centre) many young puyings here and some look absolutely gorgeous.
Also tried Spicy and boss. After hours club but a bit too sleazy for my liking.
Massage. Tried this one called thonglor massage at sukhumvit soi 24. Great ambience and the gal do know a thing or two about massage. Not your strictly pay and fark joint. Would highly recommend this place.
Bars. Visited patpong. Kings corner.. Some gorgeous ladies but they are confirm lady boys. Bought some imitiation stuff at patpong night market. A good shopping haven.
. Spasso at grand hyatt & conrad hotel. Up market bar with some cool looking freelance here. Got some contacts here and members please pm me if you are keen.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Perish tried to PM you buy apparently you are setup to not accept PM.
Johnthescot
[QUOTE=Gfighta]This is especially true when visiting a soapy/oil massage where the girls line up. The ones that are looking at the floor or not smiling are NOT interested in going with you and picking them will result in sub-standard service. This seems pretty obvious advice but just ask the girls how many times they get picked when "me no smile" as they.[/QUOTE]
While I would mostly agree with what you said above, I do not think it to be entirely true. A lot of girls are still very shy and scared of Farangs which is why they do not look at you. Not all girls working in MP's are hardened pros with a lot of confidence.
I once chose a lady that looked scared of being picked, but after a few efforts to make her feel comfortable, she relaxed and gave me an excellent experience.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]While I would mostly agree with what you said above, I do not think it to be entirely true. A lot of girls are still very shy and scared of Farangs which is why they do not look at you. Not all girls working in MP's are hardened pros with a lot of confidence.
I once chose a lady that looked scared of being picked, but after a few efforts to make her feel comfortable, she relaxed and gave me an excellent experience.[/QUOTE]
I agree with Nic. So maybe its not obvious after all.
I like girls who act naturally, as the others are merely putting on an act.
A girl that waves frantically and keeps nodding at me is a turn off.
She doesn't know me and I am not that handsome. She justs wants my money.
To Thais, this is known as "nah daan" (shameless) and is not considered suitable behaviour for a classy girl. But hardened pros don't care and can act shamelessly.
Girls that put on an act are often lousy in performance especially if they receive a large amount of money up front rather than working for a good tip.
A natural acting girl even possibly a shy one can give a great GFE.
But avoid girls who act really aloof or pull ugly faces, of course.
Some girls are merely not smiling excessively due to a long day or not many customers or scared of Farangs due to no English. They may start smiling heaps when chosen.
I try to judge a girl's character by expressions on her face when chatting to her nearby friends. However this is time consuming. With really pretty girls its often necessary to take a punt before someone else chooses her.
[QUOTE=Gfighta]...The ones that are looking at the floor or not smiling are NOT interested in going with you and picking them will result in sub-standard service.[/QUOTE]
Don't all the "lobster tanks" at the soapies have a film on the inside of the glass that reflects back and prevents the girls from seeing the custoners that are ogling them? Sort of like a two way mirror. Therefore, the girls don't know if it's a Thai, Farang, Japanese, Chinese or something that just landed on this planet from a galaxy far, far away.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Don't all the "lobster tanks" at the soapies have a film on the inside of the glass that reflects back and prevents the girls from seeing the custoners that are ogling them? [/QUOTE]
Not very sure about thisone but I can tell you that at some Soapies I go to, they can surely see you. Some don't even have the Glass anymore.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Not very sure about thisone but I can tell you that at some Soapies I go to, they can surely see you. Some don't even have the Glass anymore.[/QUOTE]
I guess it's been a while since I've had to need to go to a massage parlor. And, I could swear that all the girls could see were reflections of themselves and not the customers. In the "good-old-days" it certainly was. I think Annie's might be an exception, but all the large commercial, e.g., Posedion, etc., were that way. As with everything in BKK, things may have changed.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Don't all the "lobster tanks" at the soapies have a film on the inside of the glass that reflects back and prevents the girls from seeing the custoners that are ogling them? Sort of like a two way mirror. Therefore, the girls don't know if it's a Thai, Farang, Japanese, Chinese or something that just landed on this planet from a galaxy far, far away.[/QUOTE]
In some of the soapies the fishtank is very brightly lit and outside is dimly lit. This means the girls can only see the customers that stand close to the glass. I prefer to stand back so that the girls cannot see me as I don't want them to put on an act to try to win me over. I want to see the normal personality should it come out just a little.
Many other places either don't have any glass or don't have such a lighting contrast. Poseidon has no glass, nor does Tarawadee. Most places have no glass for sideline girls.
At Cupidy I don't like the way all the girls can see me and will all start waving wildly at me and continuously nodding as if to say "yes definitely me". I have only ever managed to book a Cupidy girl just once. The rest were either acting up too much, round faced, overweight, just plain, or too pricey.
I am not aware of any actually one-way glass fish bowls but then subtly done, we might not notice. But I think the modern trend is to allow the girls to see the customers more.
I agree with you about the shy girls. I guess my post was more directed at the newbies. If you've been in Thailand a while and can bring the shy ones out of their shell then they can in turn give you a very memorable experience. However if you are new and speak no Thai I would choose carefully.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]While I would mostly agree with what you said above, I do not think it to be entirely true. A lot of girls are still very shy and scared of Farangs which is why they do not look at you. Not all girls working in MP's are hardened pros with a lot of confidence.
I once chose a lady that looked scared of being picked, but after a few efforts to make her feel comfortable, she relaxed and gave me an excellent experience.[/QUOTE]
Below is what was posted by the Eden Club Manager Marc.
It looks like Eden has decided to deliver their GREAT Duos to your Hotel Room!
I think this is a Fantastic Idea
[quote]We do deliver day time 1PM TO 10PM in hotels ( if not too far away ) for exactly the same deal as in the Club
2 ladies 3600b 90mn
( Happens that we send up to some hotel near the Airport, the guy agreed to pay 2 sessions,since the ladies lost a lot of time to travel and come back from there )
FULL TIME
10pm to 6am
3000 b all included
8pm to 6am
4800 b all included
6pm to 6am
6000 b all included
1pm to 6am
7000b all included
Day 1 : 1pm to 6am
Day 2 : 24/24
and so on...
little piece of advice :
Always avoid to make the ladies drunk
they will not deliver better if they are[/quote]
Thanks to all the people that have posted some info on the forum. It's of great help. I just want to ask from all y'all old timers. I would love to come to Asia and do some big time mongering.
Please help me with some info on all the good places to visit and how to stay out of trouble. And how safe is asia for a young black American to monger. Please advice. Will really appreciate. Peace.
I have been a regular to Bangkok for the last many years, usually making at least one trip a year. The delights that Bangkok offers, is not to be found anywhere else in the world. A few of my thoughts follows:
Initially i frequented the tourist hotspots like the Patpong Bars, Nana Plaza, The Massage parlours, Nana Hotel, Sex Shows etc. A visitor must visit these spots to sample what is on offer. The soapies or massage parlours elicit a response that 'i must be in heaven' when you first try it. The sex shows do not excite, but draw an amazed response at the sight of cunts throwing darts & opening cans. Nana Disco is a sure shot with girls out numbering boys and aggresively marketing their wares. Patpong is a hustle but worth a try.
On my later trips, i tried newer spots like Thermae coffee shop to pick up girls, the beer garden on Sukhumvit for afternoon rendezvous ( closed now).
My attention turned to discos like Spasso at The Grand Hyatt & CM2 at The Sofitel where you could meet and pick up not only locals but East European/ former USSR girls for short or long times. A Bangkok institution is the Eden Club, where Marc offers an unrivalled debauchery 90 min session. The Menu is interesting & the encounter out of the world. A must try. A special mention must be made for the Korean Sazanka Massage offered just off Sukumvit and of course the foot massage/thai traditional massage offered everywhere to chill & relax you.
For those who like BDSM, Mistress Midori's Dungeon is a must try.
All locations/addresses to these spots can be found in forum posts, it is literally a goldmine for us hobbyists.
[quote=mangofan]some notes from this past weekend:
on saturday headed over to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on soi 8. i chose a young 22 year-old hottie that was sitting out front. dao was her name (i think). went upstairs and pulled the curtain. she took her top off and gave me a nice bj. a little rough with the teeth, but pretty good all the same. on the way out i noticed that there were very obvious cum stains on the curtains. yuck!!! i tipped the girl 150 baht.[/quote]
watch them raise prices in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] again. but it's ok - still cheaper than iowa, as someone suggested a few posts back. bangkok will always be a good deal as long as it's less expensive than....iowa. people in the west deserve to deal with pimps and drug addicts.
Hardrock 47
Are you just back from BKK? First time I hear that beergarden is closed. When did they close? Do you know if they open again, soon? I will go to Thailand in July.
Regards,
Sammson
[QUOTE=Hardrock47]
On my later trips, i tried newer spots like Thermae coffee shop to pick up girls, the beer garden on Sukhumvit for afternoon rendezvous ( closed now).
[/QUOTE]
The Beergarden on Soi 7 is not closed, at least it was still open last Saturday.
[QUOTE=Verde99]Greetings.
I am no Thai regular, but have transited overnight in Bangkok and will likley do so again. My last visit, I checked out Pat Pong and Nana and was suprized to see that there was no smoking in the bars.
Can anyone offer advice (besides to quit) about any smoker-friendly venues?
Are the big entertainment spa centers smoke free?
I admit that I am kind of big baby when I cannot smoke especially if I am drinking.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]My experience is that about 50% of the bars will let you smoke. Some you have to be a regular, others will bring you an empty soft drink can to use as an ashtray (if you ask), others just pretend the law doesn't exist.
Most of the bars that have an upstairs will allow you to smoke there.
No one really knows how strictly this new law will be enforced hence the difference between locations. If they decide to enforce it not only does the bar get fined but the smoker as well.
It doesn't really bother me but if it is a big issue for you there are plenty of places.
[QUOTE=Hardrock47]I have been a regular to Bangkok for the last many years, usually making at least one trip a year. The delights that Bangkok offers, is not to be found anywhere else in the world. A few of my thoughts follows:
Initially i frequented the tourist hotspots like the Patpong Bars, Nana Plaza, The Massage parlours, Nana Hotel, Sex Shows etc. A visitor must visit these spots to sample what is on offer. The soapies or massage parlours elicit a response that 'i must be in heaven' when you first try it. The sex shows do not excite, but draw an amazed response at the sight of cunts throwing darts & opening cans. Nana Disco is a sure shot with girls out numbering boys and aggresively marketing their wares. Patpong is a hustle but worth a try.
On my later trips, i tried newer spots like Thermae coffee shop to pick up girls, the beer garden on Sukhumvit for afternoon rendezvous ( closed now).
My attention turned to discos like Spasso at The Grand Hyatt & CM2 at The Sofitel where you could meet and pick up not only locals but East European/ former USSR girls for short or long times. A Bangkok institution is the Eden Club, where Marc offers an unrivalled debauchery 90 min session. The Menu is interesting & the encounter out of the world. A must try. A special mention must be made for the Korean Sazanka Massage offered just off Sukumvit and of course the foot massage/thai traditional massage offered everywhere to chill & relax you.
For those who like BDSM, Mistress Midori's Dungeon is a must try.
All locations/addresses to these spots can be found in forum posts, it is literally a goldmine for us hobbyists.[/QUOTE]The Beer Garden on Suk Soi 7 has never closed since it first opened. Thermae had been closed and reopened at a different location.
CM2 is not located in one of the 4 Sofitel hotels in Bangkok but in the basement of the Novotel Siam.
Marc sold the Eden Club quite some time ago. The current owner's name is Bruce.
Thanks for this useful contribution to the "goldmine for hobbyists"!
This is an update to the developments I related in [URL=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=650348&postcount=144]Nana Car Park - A Lot of Sex[/URL]
Evil
Never underestimate the power of the Internet. On another board, I got a message from a guy who said he thought he knew who Da was (that isn't the name she goes by in real life) and where she was then working (a straight job, she wasn't doing P4P anymore). In my story, I didn't describe her in much detail and hundreds of TGs have done P4P on an occasional basis, but he said this girl had told him about a farang who took her to Bumrungrad when she had a stomach problem. That's what rang the bell for him. She had mentioned it to him a long time ago in a very matter-of-fact way, so he hadn't had any reason dwell on it.
It turned out Da was actually a friend of his girlfriend, so now we had several degrees of separation involved. But after numerous messages back and forth, which he gave to his GF who relayed them to Da, all of us concluded that she was indeed the girl I had encountered that night on Sukhumvit Road.
At that point, I would have been happy to leave things as they were. My curiosity had been satisfied, there was no reason to attempt to meet her in person. In fact, there was a far more compelling reason NOT to meet her - her new boyfriend. But her friend, the girlfriend of the guy who PMed me, worked very hard to arrange a reunion between Da and myself. Whether it was a sense of romance on her part or if there were more crass considerations (Da not burning all her bridges), I don't know.
Anyway, I refused all suggestions about a face-to-face meeting, but messaged the guy to tell his girlfriend that Da, if she wished, could phone me while I was in Bangkok in November/December of 2007. I gave him my throw-away LOS cell number. We did speak and she was OK. She was in a relationship with a farang who has set her up in a small business. They more or less lived together, but he was often away from Thailand. Under the circumstances, it wouldn't have been a good idea for us to have met in person.
We talked instead for awhile on the phone. We had lost contact so suddenly because her boyfriend had insisted she break all contacts with her old life, which meant no more phone calls or emails to former clients. That was a reasonable request and it’s commendable she lived up to it - at least in my case.
She asked me a lot of questions about what I had been doing and offered to set me up with any number of her friends, especially if I were interested in marriage. I thanked her kindly, but said that I wasn't planning on getting married again. We wished each well and said good-bye. It was about as good an ending as I could have anticipated ... except, it wasn’t quite over.
Two days before I left for my March trip to LOS, I got an email from Da, asking when I’d next visit Bangkok. That was a bit spooky. I wondered whether it was karma in action or pure coincidence. After thinking about it a few minutes, I decided that the farang who had contacted me about Da, the boyfriend of her friend, had probably read on a LOS board that I would soon be back and told her.
I called her towards the end of my two-week trip. I had neither the time nor the inclination to meet her, but was interested to hear what she had to say. He sponsor had dumped her. So far, she was still making a go of the business he’d given her, but she didn’t know if that would last. In light of her changed circumstances, she was once again entertaining old customers, but trying to avoid new ones. She expressed some disappointment that I “had no time” for her. While it would have been nice to have seen again, my inner voice told me it wouldn’t be a good idea.
Again we said good-bye on an amicable note. I’m beginning to wonder not if I'll see her again but when.
Hey guys, looking for a girl who used to work at long gun, but only shows up now and then. Has a tattoo of a butterfly I think on her chest, her name is Duang. Danced in the sexy show. She also hung out playing pool during the days at various spots. Any of you guys seen her or know how to get a hold of her? Any pics? Vids? Help a bro out! Heading back to BKK soon and would love to hook up with her.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]The Beer Garden on Suk Soi 7 has never closed since it first opened. [/quote]
The Beer Garden might have been closed for a very short while during its overhaul last year, but has been in full swing for many months now.
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]
Marc sold the Eden Club quite some time ago. The current owner's name is Bruce.[/QUOTE]
Marc was, and still is, a partner in the Eden Club, but he is not the majority shareholder. He retired in 2006 as the manager and was replaced first by Frances (who passed away at the end of 2006), then by Bruce.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Marc was, and still is, a partner in the Eden Club, but he is not the majority shareholder. He retired in 2006 as the manager and was replaced first by Frances (who passed away at the end of 2006), then by Bruce. Evil[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the Clarification.
Don't you just love how people write stuff on the Forum they have no idea about? or just re-writing rubbish they have read somewhere else?
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]The Beer Garden might have been closed for a very short while during its overhaul last year, but has been in full swing for many months now.
Marc was, and still is, a partner in the Eden Club, but he is not the majority shareholder. He retired in 2006 as the manager and was replaced first by Frances (who passed away at the end of 2006), then by Bruce.
Evil[/QUOTE]Thanks for putting me right. Never heard about and never seen the Beergarden being closed.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Thanks for the Clarification.
Don't you just love how people write stuff on the Forum they have no idea about? or just re-writing rubbish they have read somewhere else?[/QUOTE]Don't you love how people hastily draw conclusions? I am no regular at the Eden which I am no fan of but a close friend of mine worked with the Eden team for quite a long time. I usually do not take stuff from the internet for granted. Ne pas tirer de conclusions hâtives Nicolas!
I'm brainstorming for my next trip and want to figure out the sickest stuff I can get away with at Eden club. I have only been there once and had a pretty straightforward 3-some - with AR during blowjob and some anal action. I'm thinking next time I might try to find some ladies willing to receive GS after I pop my cork. Does anybody else have ideas to take advantage of the liberal rules at this unique bar?
shadow - it's the wrong place but how about "whips and chains and devices"?
That's standard available fare at Castle in Pattaya (right beside Buffalo Bar) :)
About three years ago at Eden I was in one of my try everything once modes and got both the girls to give me a GS. I'm sure it's a case of "if you don't ask you don't get"
[quote=shadowj]i'm brainstorming for my next trip and want to figure out the sickest stuff i can get away with at eden club. i have only been there once and had a pretty straightforward 3-some - with ar during blowjob and some anal action. i'm thinking next time i might try to find some ladies willing to receive gs after i pop my cork. does anybody else have ideas to take advantage of the liberal rules at this unique bar?[/quote]
i know a guy that claims the girl he was fvking in the asss shat on the bed. perhaps some rep001 play might interest you.
Shadowj
Here is a suggestion that might be up your Hershey Highway.
Don't bother doing the dirty at Eden. Do an outcall with a couple of girls that like brownies. Take them out for a nice long lunch or dinner. Feed them the brownies laced with a healthy dose of Ex-Lax.
Two hours start packing fudge, then let your sick imagination lead the way.
[quote=shadowj] i'm thinking next time i might try to find some ladies willing to receive gs after i pop my cork. does anybody else have ideas to take advantage of the liberal rules at this unique bar?[/quote]
i like eden for the high level of service and multiple lady adventures. i'm not into any of the kinky stuff, so i can't speak from experience. however, the eden club has always had girls willing to take gs. they don't do rep001. but its always best to ask the manager at eden about "special requests." that's the only way to get a definitive answer.
evil
Hi guys,
After 1 year I can finally come back to the paradise.
I will be in BKK from 03/06 for 1 week.
If it is possible I would like to meet somebody of you more experienced in order to get advises!
Ciao,
Paolo
Ok. I deserved that. I've never done GS before so I was thinking about it at Eden (Hell, they even mention it as one of the 4-letter services available on their webpage). But I'm definitely not down with the 2 girls 1 cup routine. Hahaha. Rather than doing #2, I was hoping somebody could share stories of their own dirtiest requests there.
Also, I rather enjoyed the AR there (Only time I've ever gotten that) on my first visit. Does anybody know of any other places where this service is readily available. I don't plan on giving the girls any surprises, though.
[quote=evil penivel]... they don't do rep001. ...
evil[/quote]
i hope this forum is not going to descend to really weird stuff.
fortunately i finished breakfast earlier.
i even had to look up what gs was.
[quote=evil penivel]i like eden for the high level of service and multiple lady adventures. i'm not into any of the kinky stuff, so i can't speak from experience. however, the eden club has always had girls willing to take gs. they don't do rep001. but its always best to ask the manager at eden about "special requests." that's the only way to get a definitive answer.
evil[/quote]
eden club is not everyone's cup of tea. i've been there a couple of times, but don't like it very much.
in my opion the girls are old, worn out and unattractive. the lighting sucks and the place smells like... well, for lack of a better term, old butt holes. however, there is a certain segment of the population that is attracted to just this sort of establishment. i personally think there are much better places.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Eden Club is not everyone's cup of tea. I've been there a couple of times, but don't like it very much.
In my opion the girls are old, worn out and unattractive. The lighting sucks and the place smells like... well, for lack of a better term, old butt holes. However, there is a certain segment of the population that is attracted to just this sort of establishment. I personally think there are much better places.[/QUOTE]Me neither!
But. In fact I've never been there. However I've heard and read quite al lot about it. My impression (correct me if I am wrong) is that this place is for men who are into "anal". And this is why this place is not for me; even the thought of anal "sex" disgusts me.
(To the bros who do like this place: this is just my opinion about these kind of things, so do not take it personally!)
Eden is interesting, but not only for those who are into Anal. I'd say it's more for guys who want girls with pretty guaranteed talents, and who want to do a threeway.
I'm in BKK at the moment, and was considering getting takeout from Eden, but will probably go for something not quite so expensive. Things are certainly a lot more expensive now than when I came here two years ago.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Eden is interesting, but not only for those who are into Anal. I'd say it's more for guys who want girls with pretty guaranteed talents, and who want to do a threeway.
I'm in BKK at the moment, and was considering getting takeout from Eden, but will probably go for something not quite so expensive. Things are certainly a lot more expensive now than when I came here two years ago.[/QUOTE]
Jaimito,
So what do you mean by more expensive? Eden two girls or Bangkok in general? Personally I just dont get the anal thing (really) but hey we're all different. Did notice couple of months ago that girls were expecting ST what I was paying year before for LT!!
Johnthescot
I always wonder who makes up these fancy names that match so little with reality. In the case of Eden Club I am still not sure if they are referring to the the sumerian term E.din describing the wilderness that awaits inside, should it be a symbol of the Fall of Men, a warning of the one-eyed snake or simply promoting their Fruit of Knowledge. Does anybody have a clue? And why is it a club anyway - to whom do I have to apply for membership?
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Eden is interesting, but not only for those who are into Anal. I'd say it's more for guys who want girls with pretty guaranteed talents, and who want to do a threeway. [/QUOTE]
I agree. The big attraction of Eden is the "two ladies, one guy" concept, plus the exceptionally high level of service and enthusiasm on the part of the ladies. Someone said that Eden is mostly for punters who are into anal, but it's more accurate to state that those interested in anal know they won't be disappointed at Eden.
[QUOTE=Retired Army] In my opion the girls are old, worn out and unattractive. The lighting sucks and the place smells like... well, for lack of a better term, old butt holes. However, there is a certain segment of the population that is attracted to just this sort of establishment. I personally think there are much better places.[/QUOTE]
Sleaze doesn't appeal to me at all. I don't use S/T rooms anywhere, simply because my hotel room will always be more comfortable. All but my very first two sessions at Eden have been on a takeaway basis, most often overnight, but sometimes 24/7.
Having said that, I have a hard time recognizing the Eden Club in your description. I've certainly seen the session rooms at Eden, even though I've never used them. The two inhouse sessions I had way-back-when were in the S/T hotel next door while the club itself was undergoing renovation. I've never noticed any unpleasant smells and the new rooms are as clean and well-furnished as any in LOS. When was the last time you were in Eden?
The appearance of the ladies will always be a point of debate. There are plenty of Eden ladies between 20 and 25 years. Is that old in your book? I have posted pictures of Wa, Pla, Gina and other Eden ladies. Do you consider Pla, for example, to be old, worn out and unattractive? Here are the links to the photos to make it easier for you:
[URL=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=628732&postcount=4012] Wa and Pla of the Eden Club[/URL]
[URL=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701491&postcount=1197] Four-Way Stretch At Eden[/URL]
Finally, what places are much better than Eden? I've been asking that question for years and no one has ever answered it. I assume you mean there are establishments where the ladies are young, fresh and attractive and offer the same services as Eden. You would be doing me - and everyone else on the forum - a big favor if you could name those places.
Evil
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Jaimito,
So what do you mean by more expensive? Eden two girls or Bangkok in general? Personally I just dont get the anal thing (really) but hey we're all different. Did notice couple of months ago that girls were expecting ST what I was paying year before for LT!!
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
Bangkok ain't cheap anymore, especially with the devaluation of the U.S. Dollar. Real estate has gone out of sight and so has fuel. Thailand eliminated government subsidies on fuel several years ago and it created immediate price increases in basic commodities and related services. I am willing to say that prices have doubled over the last five years.
[QUOTE=Satrai2000]Me neither!
But. In fact I've never been there. However I've heard and read quite al lot about it. My impression (correct me if I am wrong) is that this place is for men who are into "anal". And this is why this place is not for me; even the thought of anal "sex" disgusts me.
(To the bros who do like this place: this is just my opinion about these kind of things, so do not take it personally!)[/QUOTE]
Eden Club is more than just anal. You can get regular two girl sex, but if anal is you thing then it's also available at the Eden Club. it's also available from other places also, but Eden is famous for it.
Last time I was in the Eden Club, several years ago, it was a favourite of the "Nigerian visitors" to Thailand. After that, I said never again to Eden.
[QUOTE]
Having said that, I have a hard time recognizing the Eden Club in your description. I've certainly seen the session rooms at Eden, even though I've never used them. The two inhouse sessions I had way-back-when were in the S/T hotel next door while the club itself was undergoing renovation. I've never noticed any unpleasant smells and the new rooms are as clean and well-furnished as any in LOS. When was the last time you were in Eden?[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to Eden in at least three years, maybe more, which is before it was renovated. It was pretty run down and shabby. So maybe it's not as bad as it was. I don't plan on going back for the reason stated in my other post.
[QUOTE]
The appearance of the ladies will always be a point of debate. There are plenty of Eden ladies between 20 and 25 years. Is that old in your book? I have posted pictures of Wa, Pla, Gina and other Eden ladies. Do you consider Pla, for example, to be old, worn out and unattractive? Here are the links to the photos to make it easier for you:[/QUOTE]
It's not the age of the car, it's the mileage that makes it old. Any old car can be made to look new with some body putty and a fresh coat of paint.
[QUOTE]
Finally, what places are much better than Eden? I've been asking that question for years and no one has ever answered it. I assume you mean there are establishments where the ladies are young, fresh and attractive and offer the same services as Eden. You would be doing me - and everyone else on the forum - a big favor if you could name those places.
Evil[/QUOTE]
When I want female company, I go to the Pegagus Club. Anal is available there, it all depends on the girl and your negoitating skulls; but, anal isn't my thing. Nothing wrong with it and if a lady insists I will certainly comply. But, I can't in good conscience expect a BJ/CIM, which is my thing, from a girl after I've had my dick up her ass.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Bangkok ain't cheap anymore, especially with the devaluation of the U.S. Dollar. Real estate has gone out of sight and so has fuel. Thailand eliminated government subsidies on fuel several years ago and it created immediate price increases in basic commodities and related services. I am willing to say that prices have doubled over the last five years.[/QUOTE]
The prices in BKK have doubled over the last 5 years, with the introduction of new and better paying jobs in general and other P4P venues and therefore more options for the girls. Of course general inflation also had it's hand in it. That said, it's still only 15% to 25% of what it would cost you compared to the U.S., Europe, Japan or other similarly developed country. Even less, when you consider the time you get for the amount you pay (2 hours or more ST and the LT rates are extremely low). I think it's still "cheap", especially when you consider B2,000 can get you LT in BKK and won't even get you a decent quicky in the U.S.
I think with the development and new down time diversions in Bangkok, it's actually an even better city to visit now than in it's "heyday" 20+ years ago. I'm not one of those who yearns for the "good old days", since I think those days are right now. The best of all worlds. It may eventually get to a point that it's no longer good value, but that may be a decade or two away.
AT2
Went over to Soi 33 last night to browse amongst the Artist Bars. Went into one called "Napoleon". Step inside, and there are guys in suits taking your drink orders. They aren't that expensive - I think 100 baht gets you a beer. Lady drinks are 100 baht as well before 10pm. Anyway, this place is really decked out. Very well decorated and they even have a professional pool table (50 baht a game). Many of the girls here wear sexy white suits or black dresses. They are nearly all stunners - minimum 7/10, and many are 9 or 10. We sit down and this lovely tall girl comes and asks to sit next to me. We chat for awhile -- her English is impeccable. Her conversation skills are also better than any bargirl I've ever met. I'd say she's 9/10 on looks, and a perfect 10 on personality. She says she's only been there for 3 days, which is probably bullshit but who cares. Her name is Mint. I buy her a drink and we talk some more. She's a uni student finishing up her studies (or so she claims). Well, I get ready to leave and just for kicks I ask how much the barfine is. She pretends not to know and has to go ask. Barfine is 1600 baht. Shortime is 3,000 baht, and Longtime is 5,000 baht. I was expecting this so I just play it cool and told her I might come back next week (doubtful). I suppose the way in would be to get her phone number to skip the expensive barfine, but 3k is still a bit much for ST. Lovely girl, though.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Bangkok ain't cheap anymore, especially with the devaluation of the U.S. Dollar. Real estate has gone out of sight and so has fuel. Thailand eliminated government subsidies on fuel several years ago and it created immediate price increases in basic commodities and related services. I am willing to say that prices have doubled over the last five years.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Mr Army,
Thats a real bummer. Joking aside, it will be a nightmare when there aren't any poor countries left where we can exploit young girls for prostitution!! Something should be done before we are all equal! Maybe US and Uk should invade somewhere. Hasn't been done for a while :-)
Johnthescot
[QUOTE=Retired Army]
Last time I was in the Eden Club, several years ago, it was a favourite of the "Nigerian visitors" to Thailand. After that, I said never again to Eden.[/QUOTE]
Sorry Retired Army, I dont get the point. What's the issue with 'Nigerian visitors'?? Did I miss something?
Johnthescot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Sorry Retired Army, I dont get the point. What's the issue with 'Nigerian visitors'?? Did I miss something?
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
Having lived too long in Thailand, Army probably got contaminated by racist anti-african locals...
I have been often to Eden in the last 3 years and never saw a "nigerian", but maybe I did not notice, since this does not matter at all to me.
[QUOTE=Dreams]Having lived too long in Thailand, Army probably got contaminated by racist anti-african locals...
I have been often to Eden in the last 3 years and never saw a "nigerian", but maybe I did not notice, since this does not matter at all to me.[/QUOTE]
I would be very surprised if a Nigerian monger would be willing to spend 3,600 baht in the Eden Club.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Eden is interesting, but not only for those who are into Anal. I'd say it's more for guys who want girls with pretty guaranteed talents, and who want to do a threeway.
I'm in BKK at the moment, and was considering getting takeout from Eden, but will probably go for something not quite so expensive. Things are certainly a lot more expensive now than when I came here two years ago.[/QUOTE]
You can thank all the big tippers and "it's still very cheap compared to back home" idiots for that.
[QUOTE=Mangofan]Went over to Soi 33 last night to browse amongst the Artist Bars. Went into one called "Napoleon". Step inside, and there are guys in suits taking your drink orders. They aren't that expensive - I think 100 baht gets you a beer. Lady drinks are 100 baht as well before 10pm. Anyway, this place is really decked out. Very well decorated and they even have a professional pool table (50 baht a game). Many of the girls here wear sexy white suits or black dresses. They are nearly all stunners - minimum 7/10, and many are 9 or 10. We sit down and this lovely tall girl comes and asks to sit next to me. We chat for awhile -- her English is impeccable. Her conversation skills are also better than any bargirl I've ever met. I'd say she's 9/10 on looks, and a perfect 10 on personality. She says she's only been there for 3 days, which is probably bullshit but who cares. Her name is Mint. I buy her a drink and we talk some more. She's a uni student finishing up her studies (or so she claims). Well, I get ready to leave and just for kicks I ask how much the barfine is. She pretends not to know and has to go ask. Barfine is 1600 baht. Shortime is 3,000 baht, and Longtime is 5,000 baht. I was expecting this so I just play it cool and told her I might come back next week (doubtful). I suppose the way in would be to get her phone number to skip the expensive barfine, but 3k is still a bit much for ST. Lovely girl, though.[/QUOTE]
Sounds good, apart from the cost that is.
Would anyone pay B1600 for barfine and B3000 for ST? I get pissed at B600 for barfine and B1500 for ST. Maybe I'm just tight though.
Have any of you guys paid money like that?
I might check it out next week and send a report in so I can get the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] taken out of me for spending B3000 for a shag I could have got for B1500.
Johnthescot
I once heard a comment like that, not about Nigerians but about Africans in general -- a guy I was drinking with said he wouldn't go with a girl after she'd been with an African. I said to the guy, wow, that's pretty racist. But he said no, no, it's nothing to do with race, it's because the rate of HIV is so high amongst Africans and that they don't like to use condoms. I'm pretty liberal-leaning, but had to admit that both those points are true, from what I've read. I would have to say that I already decided that if I ever make it to Africa, I won't be partaking of the local offerings... nor in any place in the world where the rate of AIDS is high.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]
Would anyone pay B1600 for barfine and B3000 for ST? I get pissed at B600 for barfine and B1500 for ST. Maybe I'm just tight though.[/QUOTE]
I might.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Have any of you guys paid money like that? [/QUOTE]
I have.
I rarely see girls who are hot enough to compel me to fork it over in wads that large, but if I did, I would. You only live once. Better to regret things you've done than things you haven't.
[QUOTE=Mangofan]Went over to Soi 33 last night to browse amongst the Artist Bars. [/QUOTE]
33 is an enjoyable place for me but Napolean is not one of my favorites. There are some very nice bars there and not crowded and not pushy like NEP or Cowboy etc... The ladies tend to speak better english or more then bar girl english, the pool tables are usually not too crowded (many of the bars have pool tables), the ladies are not doing 5 guys a night, you can get meals there, many places if they do not have kitchens have menus from near by that you can order in from. Back in the days they let you smoke the bars were never over flowing with smoke (as a non smoker this was a good selling point for me) etc...
Paying 3 or 5 K baht does not get you a better screw. Granted you can spend a longer time in a quieter place talking to ladies and getting a vibe for how they will be and if they might be more GFE then other places. Can you end up with a total star fish.. of course you could. Just like going for a model at a soapy... the higher the price does not mean the better the service. However rarely was I disappointed with the level of service these girls provided to me, from an assortment of bars.
Drink prices on 33 I find are very reasonable; however watch some bars as they will try to pad the bill. Wall Street, the office, Monet, Powley's, green parrot, and of course Livingstone I trust and have never had an issue with the bills and I have never had a problem leaving items on tables or laying around, the girls and staff have always been above board and honest at these places. Some other places are known to be a little shady on the bar bills. Some bars you can buy your own bottle and keep it there for just you. While I find the little glasses of drinks and the prices at cowboy and other places to be almost the same price or higher. So cost wise to have a few drinks, with the nice atmosphere, I do not think 33 is expensive.
While I will and do go out to NEP and Cowboy, I do enjoy an early evening get together over on 33. Mixing a little Gullivers / Beer Garden with a little 33 with a little NEP / Cowboy makes for an enjoyable time in BKK for me.
[QUOTE=Dreams]Having lived too long in Thailand, Army probably got contaminated by racist anti-african locals...
I have been often to Eden in the last 3 years and never saw a "nigerian", but maybe I did not notice, since this does not matter at all to me.[/QUOTE]
The truth is: I have lived in Sub-Saharan Africa, am very familiar with the sexual practices in that part of the world and I know that AIDS is out of control. Call me paranoid, but I aint' taking any chances. I know that the Thai government cracked down on the "visitors" from West Africa in recent years, so it's likely you haven't see any in Eden for a while. Last time I went to Eden, there were two West African "clients" who were going to do two girls on the left side of the line together (a foursome). It ain't racism, it;s a matter of statistics and common sense.
A few points - the girls in Eden use the condom nowadays, and girls in general are somewhat reluctant to take African clients at all much less go condomless with them. Really the main source of infection among Thai prostitutes is Thai men - it is worth noting that the variety of virus most common in Southeast Asia is quite distinct from that which is common in Africa.
As for the high priced girls mentioned, alas it is inevitable that the more expensive the girl, the worse the service.
Guys,
Looking for a new Video camera and portable mp3 speakers. Is Thailand cheaper than UK? Been to Panthip plazza every trip but only to buy DVDs and software (just for backup purposes obviously). Is it worth my while waiting til I get to Bangkok or just buy it in UK first?
thanks
Johnthescot
[QUOTE=Retired Army]The truth is: I have lived in Sub-Saharan Africa, am very familiar with the sexual practices in that part of the world and I know that AIDS is out of control. Call me paranoid, but I aint' taking any chances. I know that the Thai government cracked down on the "visitors" from West Africa in recent years, so it's likely you haven't see any in Eden for a while. Last time I went to Eden, there were two West African "clients" who were going to do two girls on the left side of the line together (a foursome). It ain't racism, it;s a matter of statistics and common sense.[/QUOTE]
Kind of figured thats what it was about. Dont blame you really.
So what's the Aids/HIV state of Thailand now? Must be pretty bad with such an above average prostitution figure? Maybe I dont want to know this is!!
Johnthe scot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]
So what's the Aids/HIV state of Thailand now? Must be pretty bad with such an above average prostitution figure? Maybe I dont want to know this is!!
[/QUOTE]
According to the list compiled and posted on Wikipedia, the top 30 countries in the world in terms of rates are in sub-Saharan Africa.
1 Swaziland 38.8%
2 Botswana 37.3
3 Lesotho 28.9
4 Zimbabwe 24.6
5 South Africa 21.5
6 Namibia 21.3
7 Zambia 16.5
8 Malawi 14.2
9 Cent Afr Rep 13.5
10 Mozambique 13.2
11 Guinea-Bissau 10
12 Tanzania 8.8
13 Gabon 8.1
14 Cote d'Ivoire 7
15 Sierra Leone 7
16 Cameroon 6.9
17 Kenya 6.7
18 Burundi 6
19 Liberia 5.9
21 Nigeria 5.6
22 Rwanda 5.1
23 Rep of Congo 4.9
24 Chad 4.8
25 Ethiopia 4.4
26 Dem Rep Congo 4.2
27 Burkina Faso 4.2
28 Togo 4.1
29 Uganda 4.1
30 Angola 3.9
49 Thailand 1.5
To give a better idea of how it works out geographically, look at the attached map -- created by UNAIDS -- shows the horn of Africa cleary as the worst area (maroon color) by far, Thailand in the middle (yellow). Also interesting on the map is that burkas appear to be pretty effective in stopping the spread of AIDS, as does living in a yurt.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Guys,
Looking for a new Video camera and portable mp3 speakers. Is Thailand cheaper than UK? Been to Panthip plazza every trip but only to buy DVDs and software (just for backup purposes obviously). Is it worth my while waiting til I get to Bangkok or just buy it in UK first?
thanks
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
In terms of U.S. Dollars and the Euro items in the UK are extremely expensive. What I've noticed is that items in the UK are the same in Pounds as they are for Dollars. But, the exchange rate is 2 to 1. Since items in Pantip are only slightly more exoensive than what you can get on-line from Amazon.com in the U.S. it appears that you would be saving quite a bit.
[QUOTE=Wendella]To give a better idea of how it works out geographically, look at the attached map -- created by UNAIDS -- shows the horn of Africa cleary as the worst area (maroon color) by far, Thailand in the middle (yellow). Also interesting on the map is that burkas appear to be pretty effective in stopping the spread of AIDS, as does living in a yurt.[/QUOTE]Japan appears to be on the low end of the exposure scale too (probably not so surprising), but it's interesting that the Korean penninsula also appears to have a similar ranking. I can understand the Northern part, given that the subjects of the "Dear Dictator" (or is that "Dear Leader"? ) have so little to eat that they lack energy for other activities. Besides, what SW wants a NK government "monitor" in the room while she's servicing a customer?
As for the rest of the map, it would appear that residency in Greenland offers total innoculation.
[i]Have fun at the Forum[/i] R: R
I am new to this forum. I will be going to Bangkok regularly on business. At the same time I would like to enjoy my time off. Due to meetings etc I have to stay at a top hotel and wondered if anyone on this forum can recommend one around Sukhumvit 33, within walking distance of the best night spots. I am obviously looking for a hotel which is freindly towards taking guests along to the room. I have read all the relevant threads and not been able to find a good answer to my little Q.
Peter
[QUOTE=Retired Army]In terms of U.S. Dollars and the Euro items in the UK are extremely expensive. What I've noticed is that items in the UK are the same in Pounds as they are for Dollars. But, the exchange rate is 2 to 1. Since items in Pantip are only slightly more exoensive than what you can get on-line from Amazon.com in the U.S. it appears that you would be saving quite a bit.[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate
Anyone over there just now and hitting Panthip Plaza soon, can you give me an idea in Baht how much a reasonable Video Camera is. Will buy you a few beers in a gogo of your choice :-)
Cheers
Johnthescot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Sounds good, apart from the cost that is.
Would anyone pay B1600 for barfine and B3000 for ST? I get pissed at B600 for barfine and B1500 for ST. Maybe I'm just tight though.
Have any of you guys paid money like that?
I might check it out next week and send a report in so I can get the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] taken out of me for spending B3000 for a shag I could have got for B1500.
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
John, quality costs more, this is how he described the girl -------
"her English is impeccable. Her conversation skills are also better than any bargirl I've ever met. I'd say she's 9/10 on looks, and a perfect 10 on personality."
In my experience girls like that are VERY hard to find, hence the high price.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Thanks mate
Anyone over there just now and hitting Panthip Plaza soon, can you give me an idea in Baht how much a reasonable Video Camera is. Will buy you a few beers in a gogo of your choice :-)
Cheers
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
I was pricing cameras the last time I was there, and I found that I could find the
"same" camera in the U.S. for less, even after taking out the VAT. By same, I am referring to the model, not counting any warranties.
So, know your prices BEFORE you go.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]I was pricing cameras the last time I was there, and I found that I could find the
"same" camera in the U.S. for less, even after taking out the VAT. By same, I am referring to the model, not counting any warranties.
So, know your prices BEFORE you go.[/QUOTE]
Check Amazon for prices to compare.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Thanks mate
Anyone over there just now and hitting Panthip Plaza soon, can you give me an idea in Baht how much a reasonable Video Camera is. Will buy you a few beers in a gogo of your choice :-)
Cheers
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
I never find electronics to be cheaper in Pantip then overseas; however where I live I can not get items so I often do purchase a lot of gear while I am in BKK. But I do not live in a developed country. So your best bet is to purchase at home. Stick to buying the software / dvd / and they do have some decent prices on memory and such but that is about it. But Fortune is generally cheaper then Pantip and has a better selection of certain type of gear. Plus Fortune you can take the MRT to the front doors and avoid the traffic jams or walking over to Pantip. Fortune has a better selection of software then Pantip also.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I never find electronics to be cheaper in Pantip then overseas; however where I live I can not get items so I often do purchase a lot of gear while I am in BKK. But I do not live in a developed country. So your best bet is to purchase at home. Stick to buying the software / dvd / and they do have some decent prices on memory and such but that is about it. But Fortune is generally cheaper then Pantip and has a better selection of certain type of gear. Plus Fortune you can take the MRT to the front doors and avoid the traffic jams or walking over to Pantip. Fortune has a better selection of software then Pantip also.[/QUOTE]
Thanks
Where is Fortune?
Johnthescot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Thanks
Where is Fortune?
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
Grand Mercure Fortune Hotel... there is a shop attached to it.
Take MRT to RAMA 9 exit... Not know where you are or how well you know BKK so I'll dumb this down... Take BTS to Asoke interchange then go down to MRT and take that over to RAMA 9 exit.
Go up and you are at the hotel... Fortune Plaza or shops are night next door to it. Between Fortune Hotel and the Tesco. All one long building all attached to each other.... Before the Thai Cultural MRT exit
Computers are more on 3 /4 floor and software is kind of hidden in the back around the back side of the 3rd or 4th floor. 2nd floor is more cell phones. The more hidden or in the back the software stores are the better the price and better selection I found, the ones at the main walk way will jack you on price.
There was also a place near the Ratchatevi BTS station, I can't remember the name but it had a few stalls open air market but they sourced some difficult to find software for me before that Pantip and Fortune could not supply.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Grand Mercure Fortune Hotel... there is a shop attached to it.
Take MRT to RAMA 9 exit... Not know where you are or how well you know BKK so I'll dumb this down... Take BTS to Asoke interchange then go down to MRT and take that over to RAMA 9 exit.
Go up and you are at the hotel... Fortune Plaza or shops are night next door to it. Between Fortune Hotel and the Tesco. All one long building all attached to each other.... Before the Thai Cultural MRT exit
Computers are more on 3 /4 floor and software is kind of hidden in the back around the back side of the 3rd or 4th floor. 2nd floor is more cell phones. The more hidden or in the back the software stores are the better the price and better selection I found, the ones at the main walk way will jack you on price.
There was also a place near the Ratchatevi BTS station, I can't remember the name but it had a few stalls open air market but they sourced some difficult to find software for me before that Pantip and Fortune could not supply.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. I'll check it out.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Thanks
Where is Fortune?
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
I've been to Fortune Town for electronics and don't consider it as good as Pantip.
[QUOTE=Peter Lexton]I am new to this forum. I will be going to Bangkok regularly on business. At the same time I would like to enjoy my time off. Due to meetings etc I have to stay at a top hotel and wondered if anyone on this forum can recommend one around Sukhumvit 33, within walking distance of the best night spots. I am obviously looking for a hotel which is freindly towards taking guests along to the room. I have read all the relevant threads and not been able to find a good answer to my little Q.
Peter[/QUOTE]
Peter, you've not been reading enough. Livingstones Lodge has been posted on to the point of spamming, is highly regarded by many members of this forum, and is 100% girl-friendly (the owner, Giotto, is a member of ISG and has his own ISG Section which you can find from the 'forums' tab at the top of the page). The Novotel also used to be popular, but there have been reports of joiner fees recently. May be worth an email to their reservations office if you are thinking about staying there (don't be shy, they get asked all the time).
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I've been to Fortune Town for electronics and don't consider it as good as Pantip.[/QUOTE]
I was speaking mostly about software, fortune has a better selection of software then at Pantip IMHO. To find specific software items it is easier at Fortune. Also there are fewer tourists at Fortune, less pushy sales folks, easier to get to, and I have also found better prices and better shops for memory and a greater variety of higher end computer components items at Fortune then at Pantip.
However the TGF can be over at fashion mall while I wander pantip so it can be a good trade off.
For name brand cameras, refill computer ink, printers, computers and DVD's I shop at stalls in Pantip over Fortune. For software and higher end computer components Fortune over Pantip. For cell phones MBK or Pantip, do not have one favorite place. Just where I have found shops / suppliers that treat me right and have the selection I want.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I was speaking mostly about software, fortune has a better selection of software then at Pantip IMHO. To find specific software items it is easier at Fortune. Also there are fewer tourists at Fortune, less pushy sales folks, easier to get to, and I have also found better prices and better shops for memory and a greater variety of higher end computer components items at Fortune then at Pantip.
However the TGF can be over at fashion mall while I wander pantip so it can be a good trade off.
For name brand cameras, refill computer ink, printers, computers and DVD's I shop at stalls in Pantip over Fortune. For software and higher end computer components Fortune over Pantip. For cell phones MBK or Pantip, do not have one favorite place. Just where I have found shops / suppliers that treat me right and have the selection I want.[/QUOTE]
To each his own. I've just always found Fortune Town to be a waste of time. If you can't find it at Pantip, you don't need it...
[QUOTE=Retired Army]To each his own. I've just always found Fortune Town to be a waste of time. If you can't find it at Pantip, you don't need it...[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys, I'll probably check it out anyway. Hell I need an excuse to get out of bed before the gogos open!! :-)
[QUOTE=Retired Army]To each his own. I've just always found Fortune Town to be a waste of time. If you can't find it at Pantip, you don't need it...[/QUOTE]Isn't Fortune accessible more easily without having to take a long walk or sitting in a traffic Jam ?
When I needed a replacement battery (original) for a specific laptop, they had it in stock at Fortunes and I couldn't get it at Pantip. If you believe I didn't need it.....
Talk of "joiner fees" at the Novotel Lotus Sukhumvit Soi 33 is total nonsense.
The hotel is 100% girl friendly.
They also will take, in the evening, the girls ID card and keep at reception, and you get a call when she leaves asking if all is ok before she can get her ID card back.
Which make its very safe as you are assured she is not going to disappear at some stage with any of your belongings.
Don't forget "disinformation" wins business. Scare enough people about "joiner fees at this and that hotel". And people go elsewhere without even checking.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Peter, you've not been reading enough. Livingstones Lodge has been posted on to the point of spamming, is highly regarded by many members of this forum, and is 100% girl-friendly (the owner, Giotto, is a member of ISG and has his own ISG Section which you can find from the 'forums' tab at the top of the page). The Novotel also used to be popular, but there have been reports of joiner fees recently. May be worth an email to their reservations office if you are thinking about staying there (don't be shy, they get asked all the time).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]33 is an enjoyable place for me but Napolean is not one of my favorites. There are some very nice bars there and not crowded and not pushy like NEP or Cowboy etc... The ladies tend to speak better english or more then bar girl english, the pool tables are usually not too crowded (many of the bars have pool tables), the ladies are not doing 5 guys a night, you can get meals there, many places if they do not have kitchens have menus from near by that you can order in from. Back in the days they let you smoke the bars were never over flowing with smoke (as a non smoker this was a good selling point for me) etc...
Paying 3 or 5 K baht does not get you a better screw. Granted you can spend a longer time in a quieter place talking to ladies and getting a vibe for how they will be and if they might be more GFE then other places. Can you end up with a total star fish.. of course you could. Just like going for a model at a soapy... the higher the price does not mean the better the service. However rarely was I disappointed with the level of service these girls provided to me, from an assortment of bars.
Drink prices on 33 I find are very reasonable; however watch some bars as they will try to pad the bill. Wall Street, the office, Monet, Powley's, green parrot, and of course Livingstone I trust and have never had an issue with the bills and I have never had a problem leaving items on tables or laying around, the girls and staff have always been above board and honest at these places. Some other places are known to be a little shady on the bar bills. Some bars you can buy your own bottle and keep it there for just you. While I find the little glasses of drinks and the prices at cowboy and other places to be almost the same price or higher. So cost wise to have a few drinks, with the nice atmosphere, I do not think 33 is expensive.
While I will and do go out to NEP and Cowboy, I do enjoy an early evening get together over on 33. Mixing a little Gullivers / Beer Garden with a little 33 with a little NEP / Cowboy makes for an enjoyable time in BKK for me.[/QUOTE]
Tansak,
Well put. The bottom line is that it may cost you $15 to $30 more due to the higher barfine, and I can't believe some guys freak out over that. The ST/LT rates are about in line with what the NEP girls want these days. I like variety too, and don't want to be sitting in NEP or Soi Cowboy every night like clockwork. That's why the change of pace venues can be of value and worth some of the extra tariff.
Soi 33, G-Clubs, etc. are simply the highend restaurants many of us frequent on occassion. Nicer ambiance, no guarantee that the meal is any better than the cheap hole in the wall diner but sometimes it is. Never regretted going to a nice restaurant and the same for the highend BKK venues.
AT2
The NEP Car Park was rather dead a few days ago, with just 20 or so girls. Just a few lookers and they did not hang around very long. Very few hobbyists around (about 2am).
Thermae had a lineup of 20 to 25 girls as they literally formed a line along the booths on the left side. About 3 to 4 worth a look. They were extremely open to negotiation, since there were so few customers just past midnight.
AT2
I visited the usual bars in the NEP, including the Rainbow Bars, Angel Witch, Mandarin and Mandarin Table Dance. The Rainbow Bars and the Mandarin bars had the best selections on the nights I visited. The lack of customers were a benefit to those of us who were in town during the week. I had several quote B3,000 to B4,000 initially, only to drop to B2,000 or B1,500 upon seeing my eyes roll or having me burst into laughter. While I don't blame the girls for trying, I find it a turnoff.
AT2
The next stop on my post divorce adventure is Thailand. I have been to many places and written about them as well. We are talking Colombia, Costa Rica, Argentina, Ukraine, Russia, Czech Republic, etc. The Far East was the next logical stop and THE PLACE to visit in Asia is Thailand of course. Gave the capital city of Bangkok a whirl.
First off, fly here on Thai Airways. It’s [url]www.thaiair.com[/url] on the net. They have a non stop direct flight from Los Angeles LAX airport and apparently also from New York as well. It’s the only way to go… You get on the plane, go to sleep and wake up in Thailand. Stopping off and changing planes in Taiwan or China or something weird like that is a nightmare.
Gotta get yourself an unlocked cellular phone. They are on sale at eBay ([url]www.ebay.com[/url]) pretty cheaply, typically for about $50 to $100. Be sure you get one that is unlocked or that you have the patience to unlock it yourself. Most carriers sell their phones locked to their own service. This means you can only use their phone with their service and thus the phone won’t work abroad. I have a particular fondness for and recommend the Motorola V190 GSM Quad Band cell phone. Just found it new on eBay for $45 and used for $25. Save yourself a lot of trouble by getting an unlocked one, otherwise you’ll have to pay for the codes to try to unlock it yourself after you get it, quite annoying.
I stayed in a boutique hotel. There are gigantic hotels in Bangkok with hundreds of rooms. Good example is the President Solitaire ([url]www.presidentsolitaire.com[/url]) or the Grand President ([url]www.grandpresident.com[/url]). Personally I would not stay at either but the location is correct, where you want to be, which is around Sukhumvit Soi, in this case number 11. It’s pussy central my friends.
My hotel is Citi Chic, same area, much nicer. Try [url]www.citichichotel.com[/url]. It’s moderately sized, has free breakfast, a pool on the roof, nice rooms, free WIFI internet, plasma TV’s, etc. Taxi drivers at the airport are as dumb as fuck so best to bring the exact address written down with you from their web site (34 Sukhumvit Soi 13, Bangkok). And by the way, the taxi ride from the airport to the hotel should run you about $15, certainly not more than $20 though I heard quotes up to and over $60 so watch out for the rip offs. I’d say a metered taxi is always your best bet. The money is relatively easy to deal with. Say something is 10,000 baht (the local Thai currency). You knock off 2 zeros, thus 100 and then you multiply by 3, thus $300. That is that 10,000 baht is about US$300. Obviously this varies but it’s a good estimation point. Things sound like “more” because the currency is in the thousands but actually things here are pretty cheap. This is certainly true of sexual services.
Once you arrive and check into your hotel, drop by a 7-11. That’s right, Thailand has the good old 7-11 franchise all over the place ([url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/711.jpg[/url]). Buy yourself a cellular SIM card there on DTAC cellular service, put it in your phone and you are good to go. There are 3 general places renowned for sex. First is Patpong ([url]http://*************.com/pictures/patpong.shtml[/url]). Confusing to the Western Mind, Patpong is actually two streets, Patpong 1 and Patpong 2. They are lined with what are essentially store fronts which are go go bars, clubs, etc. Historically this was the “famous street” and “best place” where American soldiers in particular would go for R&R (rest and relaxation) during time off from fighting in Vietnam. You may wish to visit for curiosity purposes but there is no reason to go there any longer. First of all, beware of the ladyboys. Ladyboys are men who are transvestites or transsexuals pre-op or post-op, I don’t know and don’t want to know. In current day Patpong you are very likely to be set up with what you think is a woman but is actually a guy. No thanks, not my thing. Yuck. There are also stories about getting drugged, screwed with, pickpocketed, etc. All in all, best avoided, no thanks, take care, bye.
The new “great street” is Soi Cowboy which is the happening spot at the moment. There are some other streets like it of a “smaller” variety. There is an area which sports clubs named after artists like Degas, Van Gogh, etc. It is called Soi 33 or Artist Soi. There are also lesser known side streets with a good club or two including for example the club Eden, but best off check out Soi Cowboy which is a whole street of go go bars. [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/eden.jpg[/url]
So here is the story on Soi Cowboy. There are girls outside trying to hawk the club to you. They sit or stand outside and urge you to come in. If you step in, they are dying to get you to sit down and once you sit down one or two girls will be all over you. The key point is for you to get a tab going. You order a drink for yourself and then the girls want you to order drinks for them that they don’t even sip anyway (they have like a drink order quota to meet apparently). Your drink will be like 200 baht and their drink, maybe a Coca Cola, will be like 150 baht. So a few of these and you are already up to 600 baht let’s say. Now think about that. It sounds like a lot but if you knock off two zeros you get 6 and if you then multiply by 3 you get $18. So for having a drink and a very hot chick rub all over you and feel you up for 30 minutes, you are paying $18, not all that bad. You can fool around with these girls in the bar itself to some degree. Some do sex acts right while you sit at the damn stool and there are also dancing stages, stripper poles, etc. If you have any class or humanity and you find a girl you like you will want to take her back to your hotel for some privacy during sexual acts. This involves paying the “bar tax”. This is the price you pay for the girl to leave the bar, a payment to the bar for helping you find her and for housing her normally, on some level, she “belongs” to the bar. The bar tax is typically about 400 to 1,000 baht. You pay the bartender, apparently later on the girl gets some share of this, though likely a small share. The girl leaves with you and then you take her back to your hotel. She is going to want 1,000 to 1,500 baht. This is for “short time” which is like two hours of doing whatever you want. Figure about 2,000 baht all together, that’s $60 for two hours of non stop action by a woman who culturally wants nothing more than to completely please a man. Can you imagine? An American woman is offended by the idea of “having to” please a man.
As I’ve said, two hours in “short time”. There is also overnight which is “long time”. Logical stuff.
Another good place is called Nana Plaza. Nana Plaza is a whole assortment of clubs and bars surrounding the Nana Hotel.
[url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/nana1.jpg[/url]
[url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/nana2.jpg[/url]
These are bars like at Soi Cowboy though I did find something truly mind boggling there. I went to a place called Annie’s, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/annies.jpg[/url]. Annie’s does what is called a “fish bowl”, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/fishbowl.jpg[/url]. You get to view typically about twenty or more girls through glass and you pick by number the one you want to be with. I liked number 16 ([url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/g16.jpg[/url]). For 1,500 baht ($45) this chick gave me a bath, scrubbed me, massaged me, blew me, fucked me beyond belief and then blew me and massaged me some more for two hours. The woman was an artiste. Highly recommended.
Along the way there are literally countless massage parlors. For example Sabai Sabai. You come in, they remove your shoes and give you slippers. A shower and one hour oil massage runs about 500 baht ($15). The woman you pick rubs you down, stretches you, manipulates your body in positions you cannot imagine and offers you a hand job or blow job for about 400 baht tip ($12). A no lose proposition all in all, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/sabaisabai.jpg[/url]. There are so many of these places it is impossible to count them.
Streets are lined with vendors selling knock off Levis, Calvin Klein copies, fake quartz Rolexes, magic tricks, unlicensed T shirts, children’s toys, “art”, pirate DVD’s of films currently playing in theatres in the USA, weapons, knives, etc. Do not pay quoted prices! Bargain! Offer less than asked please! Don’t be a dumb tourist. Watch for Viagra sold in the street, it’s fake, just chalk made in India, useless, forget it. I even met a street elephant, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/elephant.jpg[/url]. Everything is possible in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Adamqqq]The next stop on my post divorce adventure is Thailand. I have been to many places and written about them as well. We are talking Colombia, Costa Rica, Argentina, Ukraine, Russia, Czech Republic, etc. The Far East was the next logical stop and THE PLACE to visit in Asia is Thailand of course. Gave the capital city of Bangkok a whirl.
First off, fly here on Thai Airways. It’s [url]www.thaiair.com[/url] on the net. They have a non stop direct flight from Los Angeles LAX airport and apparently also from New York as well. It’s the only way to go… You get on the plane, go to sleep and wake up in Thailand. Stopping off and changing planes in Taiwan or China or something weird like that is a nightmare.
Gotta get yourself an unlocked cellular phone. They are on sale at eBay ([url]www.ebay.com[/url]) pretty cheaply, typically for about $50 to $100. Be sure you get one that is unlocked or that you have the patience to unlock it yourself. Most carriers sell their phones locked to their own service. This means you can only use their phone with their service and thus the phone won’t work abroad. I have a particular fondness for and recommend the Motorola V190 GSM Quad Band cell phone. Just found it new on eBay for $45 and used for $25. Save yourself a lot of trouble by getting an unlocked one, otherwise you’ll have to pay for the codes to try to unlock it yourself after you get it, quite annoying.
I stayed in a boutique hotel. There are gigantic hotels in Bangkok with hundreds of rooms. Good example is the President Solitaire ([url]www.presidentsolitaire.com[/url]) or the Grand President ([url]www.grandpresident.com[/url]). Personally I would not stay at either but the location is correct, where you want to be, which is around Sukhumvit Soi, in this case number 11. It’s pussy central my friends.
My hotel is Citi Chic, same area, much nicer. Try [url]www.citichichotel.com[/url]. It’s moderately sized, has free breakfast, a pool on the roof, nice rooms, free WIFI internet, plasma TV’s, etc. Taxi drivers at the airport are as dumb as fuck so best to bring the exact address written down with you from their web site (34 Sukhumvit Soi 13, Bangkok). And by the way, the taxi ride from the airport to the hotel should run you about $15, certainly not more than $20 though I heard quotes up to and over $60 so watch out for the rip offs. I’d say a metered taxi is always your best bet. The money is relatively easy to deal with. Say something is 10,000 baht (the local Thai currency). You knock off 2 zeros, thus 100 and then you multiply by 3, thus $300. That is that 10,000 baht is about US$300. Obviously this varies but it’s a good estimation point. Things sound like “more” because the currency is in the thousands but actually things here are pretty cheap. This is certainly true of sexual services.
Once you arrive and check into your hotel, drop by a 7-11. That’s right, Thailand has the good old 7-11 franchise all over the place ([url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/711.jpg[/url]). Buy yourself a cellular SIM card there on DTAC cellular service, put it in your phone and you are good to go. There are 3 general places renowned for sex. First is Patpong ([url]http://*************.com/pictures/patpong.shtml[/url]). Confusing to the Western Mind, Patpong is actually two streets, Patpong 1 and Patpong 2. They are lined with what are essentially store fronts which are go go bars, clubs, etc. Historically this was the “famous street” and “best place” where American soldiers in particular would go for R&R (rest and relaxation) during time off from fighting in Vietnam. You may wish to visit for curiosity purposes but there is no reason to go there any longer. First of all, beware of the ladyboys. Ladyboys are men who are transvestites or transsexuals pre-op or post-op, I don’t know and don’t want to know. In current day Patpong you are very likely to be set up with what you think is a woman but is actually a guy. No thanks, not my thing. Yuck. There are also stories about getting drugged, screwed with, pickpocketed, etc. All in all, best avoided, no thanks, take care, bye.
The new “great street” is Soi Cowboy which is the happening spot at the moment. There are some other streets like it of a “smaller” variety. There is an area which sports clubs named after artists like Degas, Van Gogh, etc. It is called Soi 33 or Artist Soi. There are also lesser known side streets with a good club or two including for example the club Eden, but best off check out Soi Cowboy which is a whole street of go go bars. [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/eden.jpg[/url]
So here is the story on Soi Cowboy. There are girls outside trying to hawk the club to you. They sit or stand outside and urge you to come in. If you step in, they are dying to get you to sit down and once you sit down one or two girls will be all over you. The key point is for you to get a tab going. You order a drink for yourself and then the girls want you to order drinks for them that they don’t even sip anyway (they have like a drink order quota to meet apparently). Your drink will be like 200 baht and their drink, maybe a Coca Cola, will be like 150 baht. So a few of these and you are already up to 600 baht let’s say. Now think about that. It sounds like a lot but if you knock off two zeros you get 6 and if you then multiply by 3 you get $18. So for having a drink and a very hot chick rub all over you and feel you up for 30 minutes, you are paying $18, not all that bad. You can fool around with these girls in the bar itself to some degree. Some do sex acts right while you sit at the damn stool and there are also dancing stages, stripper poles, etc. If you have any class or humanity and you find a girl you like you will want to take her back to your hotel for some privacy during sexual acts. This involves paying the “bar tax”. This is the price you pay for the girl to leave the bar, a payment to the bar for helping you find her and for housing her normally, on some level, she “belongs” to the bar. The bar tax is typically about 400 to 1,000 baht. You pay the bartender, apparently later on the girl gets some share of this, though likely a small share. The girl leaves with you and then you take her back to your hotel. She is going to want 1,000 to 1,500 baht. This is for “short time” which is like two hours of doing whatever you want. Figure about 2,000 baht all together, that’s $60 for two hours of non stop action by a woman who culturally wants nothing more than to completely please a man. Can you imagine? An American woman is offended by the idea of “having to” please a man.
As I’ve said, two hours in “short time”. There is also overnight which is “long time”. Logical stuff.
Another good place is called Nana Plaza. Nana Plaza is a whole assortment of clubs and bars surrounding the Nana Hotel.
[url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/nana1.jpg[/url]
[url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/nana2.jpg[/url]
These are bars like at Soi Cowboy though I did find something truly mind boggling there. I went to a place called Annie’s, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/annies.jpg[/url]. Annie’s does what is called a “fish bowl”, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/fishbowl.jpg[/url]. You get to view typically about twenty or more girls through glass and you pick by number the one you want to be with. I liked number 16 ([url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/g16.jpg[/url]). For 1,500 baht ($45) this chick gave me a bath, scrubbed me, massaged me, blew me, fucked me beyond belief and then blew me and massaged me some more for two hours. The woman was an artiste. Highly recommended.
Along the way there are literally countless massage parlors. For example Sabai Sabai. You come in, they remove your shoes and give you slippers. A shower and one hour oil massage runs about 500 baht ($15). The woman you pick rubs you down, stretches you, manipulates your body in positions you cannot imagine and offers you a hand job or blow job for about 400 baht tip ($12). A no lose proposition all in all, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/sabaisabai.jpg[/url]. There are so many of these places it is impossible to count them.
Streets are lined with vendors selling knock off Levis, Calvin Klein copies, fake quartz Rolexes, magic tricks, unlicensed T shirts, children’s toys, “art”, pirate DVD’s of films currently playing in theatres in the USA, weapons, knives, etc. Do not pay quoted prices! Bargain! Offer less than asked please! Don’t be a dumb tourist. Watch for Viagra sold in the street, it’s fake, just chalk made in India, useless, forget it. I even met a street elephant, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/elephant.jpg[/url]. Everything is possible in Thailand.
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Wow, I didn't know any of this stuff. I definitely think this should be a report of distinction for all the invaluable information it imparts. Thank you for telling all I needed to know about Bangkok. But, what's an elephant doing in Bangkok, what's a fishbowl, where is Nana Plaza and what's a ST?
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Isn't Fortune accessible more easily without having to take a long walk or sitting in a traffic Jam ?
When I needed a replacement battery (original) for a specific laptop, they had it in stock at Fortunes and I couldn't get it at Pantip. If you believe I didn't need it.....[/QUOTE]
Yes, now that the MRT is open, it is easier to get to Fortune Town. It's just that Pantip has been around for so long, and it's a real landmark, and Fortune Town is newer and trying to market itself as a Pantip II. Of the two I prefer Pantip simply because it's familiar and close. Just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions and A-holes.
[QUOTE=Adamqqq]The next stop on my post divorce adventure is Thailand. I have been to many places and written about them as well. We are talking Colombia, Costa Rica, Argentina, Ukraine, Russia, Czech Republic, etc. The Far East was the next logical stop and THE PLACE to visit in Asia is Thailand of course. Gave the capital city of Bangkok a whirl.<cut>
[/QUOTE]
Adam,
Always good to see new members contribute right away. Look forward to your future posts. Give Hong Kong, Macau, Phillipines and China a whirl too. Great stuff to be had all across Asia.
Peace,
AT2
[QUOTE=Penbelly]There are certain people who seem to NEED the higher class atmosphere for whatever reason. Hence Soi 33 or dummies spending 8, 000 baht for BF and ST fees from G-clubs and still getting starfish sex. Most of Soi 33's girls are no prettier than the better girls at NEP. And, yes, Iv'e been there recently.[/QUOTE]Lol! I guess, since my thinking does not fall in line with Penbelly, I'm one of the "dummies". "NEED" has nothing to do with it. A change of pace and a nicer environment can be nice for a few hours. Let's face it, NEP and Soi Cowboy can be real shit holes in many respects. I am a bit surprised that no one has created a new NEP, brand new and clean and with some ambiance to it. More stylish, with the trimmings of say the Super Soapies.
I spent some time at both the Pent and Club Forte. I prefer the Pent, since it has a much deeper roster of girls and far more lookers. Club Forte is also, for the most part, much too loud. I had to make my way to the back area, near the lone pool table, to have a decent conversation with the girl I was with. There is clearly a difference between the G-Club girls, Soi 33 girls and the NEP & Cowboy girls. There really is, whether you want to believe it or not. While in general, you can find girls who are as attractive in NEP & Cowboy, there are some hot woman in the high end clubs that you will simply not find in NEP or Cowboy. More polished too.
The NEP & Soi Cowboy girls can be nice, friendly and fun to be with. They are, though, very rough around the edges. They also can be very young looking (younger than their stated 20 years of age), which is fine if you are 20 something, but it loses some of it's appeal when you could be their father. You will find slightly older girls in the high end places or at least more girls who are 20, who can actually act like they are not 15. It's not necessarily better, since that's so dependent on taste, but it is different and they have their place in the BKK scene. The girl I was with at Forte, would not be found in the NEP or Soi Cowboy.
The setup at the Forte is a main stage at the back, with a live band. So-So in my opinion, but that's not why I went. There's also the Coyote Dancers during the bands break, and they dance in a center staging area that runs down the middle of the room. There's the back area, where it's quieter and you can sit on sofas and chat with the girls. They don't have a barfine system that I'm aware of and really it's about getting the girls number to meet in her off hours.
Spent B3, 000+ for an hour or so and got her digits and met up with her the next day. Yes, not for everyone, but there are a lot of hours in the day and more than enough time to enjoy every aspect of the BKK scene. For one night it was the Forte and I enjoyed it.
Peace,
AT2
[QUOTE=Adamqqq]The next stop on my post divorce adventure is Thailand. [/QUOTE]
Great report Adam! Most of what you wrote may be old news to the old timers here but your post is valuable to the uninformed members. Way to make your debut, keep it up.
Hi everyone,
I have a room reserved at the DAVIS Bangkok hotel, anyone knows this place?
Is it girl friendly? Close to any good place?
Thanks in advance!
Last summer the Davis was reasonably gf and the rooms are really nice.
I had no problem when I brought one girl but one night I had a double header and they made me pay a joiner fee for the second one.
You should be able to find my post using the advanced search function
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hi everyone,
I have a room reserved at the DAVIS Bangkok hotel, anyone knows this place?
Is it girl friendly? Close to any good place?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
Now something for the real perverts here.
In Erotica in NEP you have a mom and daughter team working.
The mom is a waitress and looks like a fat old dog but the daughter is cute. However, I don't know if they do double headers.
Have fun
Totally agree with Asia Traveler 2.
Spend a few hours with a friend in the Pent recently.
Drinks and Ladydrinks for 2 stunners with hardbodies that really could dance costs us 4000bath including tips. We got their digits and had a great time with the girls the following day. I do not regret those 4000 one second.
Those girls where certainly more clever than the standard bg in NEP or SC and talking to them was fun.
Where they any prettier? Hard to say, since you still can find some gems in gogos if you are lucky. They certainly were much better styled than an standard bg.
As for why some people like more upscale clubs, it's the same discussion as the one why some people like to fly first class when economy will get you to your destination just as fast or why some like to drive a nice car when a Hyundei will be just as convenient for your morning commute to work. Each to his own.
Cheers
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Lol! I guess, since my thinking does not fall in line with Penbelly, I'm one of the "dummies". "NEED" has nothing to do with it. A change of pace and a nicer environment can be nice for a few hours. Let's face it, NEP and Soi Cowboy can be real shit holes in many respects. I am a bit surprised that no one has created a new NEP, brand new and clean and with some ambiance to it. More stylish, with the trimmings of say the Super Soapies.
I spent some time at both the Pent and Club Forte. I prefer the Pent, since it has a much deeper roster of girls and far more lookers. Club Forte is also, for the most part, much too loud. I had to make my way to the back area, near the lone pool table, to have a decent conversation with the girl I was with. There is clearly a difference between the G-Club girls, Soi 33 girls and the NEP & Cowboy girls. There really is, whether you want to believe it or not. While in general, you can find girls who are as attractive in NEP & Cowboy, there are some hot woman in the high end clubs that you will simply not find in NEP or Cowboy. More polished too.
The NEP & Soi Cowboy girls can be nice, friendly and fun to be with. They are, though, very rough around the edges. They also can be very young looking (younger than their stated 20 years of age), which is fine if you are 20 something, but it loses some of it's appeal when you could be their father. You will find slightly older girls in the high end places or at least more girls who are 20, who can actually act like they are not 15. It's not necessarily better, since that's so dependent on taste, but it is different and they have their place in the BKK scene. The girl I was with at Forte, would not be found in the NEP or Soi Cowboy.
The setup at the Forte is a main stage at the back, with a live band. So-So in my opinion, but that's not why I went. There's also the Coyote Dancers during the bands break, and they dance in a center staging area that runs down the middle of the room. There's the back area, where it's quieter and you can sit on sofas and chat with the girls. They don't have a barfine system that I'm aware of and really it's about getting the girls number to meet in her off hours.
Spent B3, 000+ for an hour or so and got her digits and met up with her the next day. Yes, not for everyone, but there are a lot of hours in the day and more than enough time to enjoy every aspect of the BKK scene. For one night it was the Forte and I enjoyed it.
Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]
aw - c'mon RA cut the newbie a BREAK. he was TRYING anyway :)
[QUOTE=Adamqqq]The next stop on my post divorce adventure is Thailand. I have been to many places and written about them as well. We are talking Colombia, Costa Rica, Argentina, Ukraine, Russia, Czech Republic, etc. The Far East was the next logical stop and THE PLACE to visit in Asia is Thailand of course. Gave the capital city of Bangkok a whirl.
First off, fly here on Thai Airways. It’s [url]www.thaiair.com[/url] on the net. They have a non stop direct flight from Los Angeles LAX airport and apparently also from New York as well. It’s the only way to go… You get on the plane, go to sleep and wake up in Thailand. Stopping off and changing planes in Taiwan or China or something weird like that is a nightmare.
Gotta get yourself an unlocked cellular phone. They are on sale at eBay ([url]www.ebay.com[/url]) pretty cheaply, typically for about $50 to $100. Be sure you get one that is unlocked or that you have the patience to unlock it yourself. Most carriers sell their phones locked to their own service. This means you can only use their phone with their service and thus the phone won’t work abroad. I have a particular fondness for and recommend the Motorola V190 GSM Quad Band cell phone. Just found it new on eBay for $45 and used for $25. Save yourself a lot of trouble by getting an unlocked one, otherwise you’ll have to pay for the codes to try to unlock it yourself after you get it, quite annoying.
I stayed in a boutique hotel. There are gigantic hotels in Bangkok with hundreds of rooms. Good example is the President Solitaire ([url]www.presidentsolitaire.com[/url]) or the Grand President ([url]www.grandpresident.com[/url]). Personally I would not stay at either but the location is correct, where you want to be, which is around Sukhumvit Soi, in this case number 11. It’s pussy central my friends.
My hotel is Citi Chic, same area, much nicer. Try [url]www.citichichotel.com[/url]. It’s moderately sized, has free breakfast, a pool on the roof, nice rooms, free WIFI internet, plasma TV’s, etc. Taxi drivers at the airport are as dumb as fuck so best to bring the exact address written down with you from their web site (34 Sukhumvit Soi 13, Bangkok). And by the way, the taxi ride from the airport to the hotel should run you about $15, certainly not more than $20 though I heard quotes up to and over $60 so watch out for the rip offs. I’d say a metered taxi is always your best bet. The money is relatively easy to deal with. Say something is 10,000 baht (the local Thai currency). You knock off 2 zeros, thus 100 and then you multiply by 3, thus $300. That is that 10,000 baht is about US$300. Obviously this varies but it’s a good estimation point. Things sound like “more” because the currency is in the thousands but actually things here are pretty cheap. This is certainly true of sexual services.
Once you arrive and check into your hotel, drop by a 7-11. That’s right, Thailand has the good old 7-11 franchise all over the place ([url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/711.jpg[/url]). Buy yourself a cellular SIM card there on DTAC cellular service, put it in your phone and you are good to go. There are 3 general places renowned for sex. First is Patpong ([url]http://*************.com/pictures/patpong.shtml[/url]). Confusing to the Western Mind, Patpong is actually two streets, Patpong 1 and Patpong 2. They are lined with what are essentially store fronts which are go go bars, clubs, etc. Historically this was the “famous street” and “best place” where American soldiers in particular would go for R&R (rest and relaxation) during time off from fighting in Vietnam. You may wish to visit for curiosity purposes but there is no reason to go there any longer. First of all, beware of the ladyboys. Ladyboys are men who are transvestites or transsexuals pre-op or post-op, I don’t know and don’t want to know. In current day Patpong you are very likely to be set up with what you think is a woman but is actually a guy. No thanks, not my thing. Yuck. There are also stories about getting drugged, screwed with, pickpocketed, etc. All in all, best avoided, no thanks, take care, bye.
The new “great street” is Soi Cowboy which is the happening spot at the moment. There are some other streets like it of a “smaller” variety. There is an area which sports clubs named after artists like Degas, Van Gogh, etc. It is called Soi 33 or Artist Soi. There are also lesser known side streets with a good club or two including for example the club Eden, but best off check out Soi Cowboy which is a whole street of go go bars. [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/eden.jpg[/url]
So here is the story on Soi Cowboy. There are girls outside trying to hawk the club to you. They sit or stand outside and urge you to come in. If you step in, they are dying to get you to sit down and once you sit down one or two girls will be all over you. The key point is for you to get a tab going. You order a drink for yourself and then the girls want you to order drinks for them that they don’t even sip anyway (they have like a drink order quota to meet apparently). Your drink will be like 200 baht and their drink, maybe a Coca Cola, will be like 150 baht. So a few of these and you are already up to 600 baht let’s say. Now think about that. It sounds like a lot but if you knock off two zeros you get 6 and if you then multiply by 3 you get $18. So for having a drink and a very hot chick rub all over you and feel you up for 30 minutes, you are paying $18, not all that bad. You can fool around with these girls in the bar itself to some degree. Some do sex acts right while you sit at the damn stool and there are also dancing stages, stripper poles, etc. If you have any class or humanity and you find a girl you like you will want to take her back to your hotel for some privacy during sexual acts. This involves paying the “bar tax”. This is the price you pay for the girl to leave the bar, a payment to the bar for helping you find her and for housing her normally, on some level, she “belongs” to the bar. The bar tax is typically about 400 to 1,000 baht. You pay the bartender, apparently later on the girl gets some share of this, though likely a small share. The girl leaves with you and then you take her back to your hotel. She is going to want 1,000 to 1,500 baht. This is for “short time” which is like two hours of doing whatever you want. Figure about 2,000 baht all together, that’s $60 for two hours of non stop action by a woman who culturally wants nothing more than to completely please a man. Can you imagine? An American woman is offended by the idea of “having to” please a man.
As I’ve said, two hours in “short time”. There is also overnight which is “long time”. Logical stuff.
Another good place is called Nana Plaza. Nana Plaza is a whole assortment of clubs and bars surrounding the Nana Hotel.
[url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/nana1.jpg[/url]
[url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/nana2.jpg[/url]
These are bars like at Soi Cowboy though I did find something truly mind boggling there. I went to a place called Annie’s, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/annies.jpg[/url]. Annie’s does what is called a “fish bowl”, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/fishbowl.jpg[/url]. You get to view typically about twenty or more girls through glass and you pick by number the one you want to be with. I liked number 16 ([url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/g16.jpg[/url]). For 1,500 baht ($45) this chick gave me a bath, scrubbed me, massaged me, blew me, fucked me beyond belief and then blew me and massaged me some more for two hours. The woman was an artiste. Highly recommended.
Along the way there are literally countless massage parlors. For example Sabai Sabai. You come in, they remove your shoes and give you slippers. A shower and one hour oil massage runs about 500 baht ($15). The woman you pick rubs you down, stretches you, manipulates your body in positions you cannot imagine and offers you a hand job or blow job for about 400 baht tip ($12). A no lose proposition all in all, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/sabaisabai.jpg[/url]. There are so many of these places it is impossible to count them.
Streets are lined with vendors selling knock off Levis, Calvin Klein copies, fake quartz Rolexes, magic tricks, unlicensed T shirts, children’s toys, “art”, pirate DVD’s of films currently playing in theatres in the USA, weapons, knives, etc. Do not pay quoted prices! Bargain! Offer less than asked please! Don’t be a dumb tourist. Watch for Viagra sold in the street, it’s fake, just chalk made in India, useless, forget it. I even met a street elephant, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/elephant.jpg[/url]. Everything is possible in Thailand.
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Thanks really informative.
Johnthescot
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Wow, I didn't know any of this stuff. I definitely think this should be a report of distinction for all the invaluable information it imparts. Thank you for telling all I needed to know about Bangkok. But, what's an elephant doing in Bangkok, what's a fishbowl, where is Nana Plaza and what's a ST?[/QUOTE]
Geez, is it just me that gets wound up by this?? Seriously?? Can't be!!
Luckily I've reinvented by self as a calm controlled individual. :-)
Johnthescot
[QUOTE=Adamqqq]The next stop on my post divorce adventure is Thailand. I have been to many places and written about them as well. We are talking Colombia, Costa Rica, Argentina, Ukraine, Russia, Czech Republic, etc. The Far East was the next logical stop and THE PLACE to visit in Asia is Thailand of course. Gave the capital city of Bangkok a whirl.
First off, fly here on Thai Airways. It’s [url]www.thaiair.com[/url] on the net. They have a non stop direct flight from Los Angeles LAX airport and apparently also from New York as well. It’s the only way to go… You get on the plane, go to sleep and wake up in Thailand. Stopping off and changing planes in Taiwan or China or something weird like that is a nightmare.
Gotta get yourself an unlocked cellular phone. They are on sale at eBay ([url]www.ebay.com[/url]) pretty cheaply, typically for about $50 to $100. Be sure you get one that is unlocked or that you have the patience to unlock it yourself. Most carriers sell their phones locked to their own service. This means you can only use their phone with their service and thus the phone won’t work abroad. I have a particular fondness for and recommend the Motorola V190 GSM Quad Band cell phone. Just found it new on eBay for $45 and used for $25. Save yourself a lot of trouble by getting an unlocked one, otherwise you’ll have to pay for the codes to try to unlock it yourself after you get it, quite annoying.
I stayed in a boutique hotel. There are gigantic hotels in Bangkok with hundreds of rooms. Good example is the President Solitaire ([url]www.presidentsolitaire.com[/url]) or the Grand President ([url]www.grandpresident.com[/url]). Personally I would not stay at either but the location is correct, where you want to be, which is around Sukhumvit Soi, in this case number 11. It’s pussy central my friends.
My hotel is Citi Chic, same area, much nicer. Try [url]www.citichichotel.com[/url]. It’s moderately sized, has free breakfast, a pool on the roof, nice rooms, free WIFI internet, plasma TV’s, etc. Taxi drivers at the airport are as dumb as fuck so best to bring the exact address written down with you from their web site (34 Sukhumvit Soi 13, Bangkok). And by the way, the taxi ride from the airport to the hotel should run you about $15, certainly not more than $20 though I heard quotes up to and over $60 so watch out for the rip offs. I’d say a metered taxi is always your best bet. The money is relatively easy to deal with. Say something is 10,000 baht (the local Thai currency). You knock off 2 zeros, thus 100 and then you multiply by 3, thus $300. That is that 10,000 baht is about US$300. Obviously this varies but it’s a good estimation point. Things sound like “more” because the currency is in the thousands but actually things here are pretty cheap. This is certainly true of sexual services.
Once you arrive and check into your hotel, drop by a 7-11. That’s right, Thailand has the good old 7-11 franchise all over the place ([url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/711.jpg[/url]). Buy yourself a cellular SIM card there on DTAC cellular service, put it in your phone and you are good to go. There are 3 general places renowned for sex. First is Patpong ([url]http://*************.com/pictures/patpong.shtml[/url]). Confusing to the Western Mind, Patpong is actually two streets, Patpong 1 and Patpong 2. They are lined with what are essentially store fronts which are go go bars, clubs, etc. Historically this was the “famous street” and “best place” where American soldiers in particular would go for R&R (rest and relaxation) during time off from fighting in Vietnam. You may wish to visit for curiosity purposes but there is no reason to go there any longer. First of all, beware of the ladyboys. Ladyboys are men who are transvestites or transsexuals pre-op or post-op, I don’t know and don’t want to know. In current day Patpong you are very likely to be set up with what you think is a woman but is actually a guy. No thanks, not my thing. Yuck. There are also stories about getting drugged, screwed with, pickpocketed, etc. All in all, best avoided, no thanks, take care, bye.
The new “great street” is Soi Cowboy which is the happening spot at the moment. There are some other streets like it of a “smaller” variety. There is an area which sports clubs named after artists like Degas, Van Gogh, etc. It is called Soi 33 or Artist Soi. There are also lesser known side streets with a good club or two including for example the club Eden, but best off check out Soi Cowboy which is a whole street of go go bars. [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/eden.jpg[/url]
So here is the story on Soi Cowboy. There are girls outside trying to hawk the club to you. They sit or stand outside and urge you to come in. If you step in, they are dying to get you to sit down and once you sit down one or two girls will be all over you. The key point is for you to get a tab going. You order a drink for yourself and then the girls want you to order drinks for them that they don’t even sip anyway (they have like a drink order quota to meet apparently). Your drink will be like 200 baht and their drink, maybe a Coca Cola, will be like 150 baht. So a few of these and you are already up to 600 baht let’s say. Now think about that. It sounds like a lot but if you knock off two zeros you get 6 and if you then multiply by 3 you get $18. So for having a drink and a very hot chick rub all over you and feel you up for 30 minutes, you are paying $18, not all that bad. You can fool around with these girls in the bar itself to some degree. Some do sex acts right while you sit at the damn stool and there are also dancing stages, stripper poles, etc. If you have any class or humanity and you find a girl you like you will want to take her back to your hotel for some privacy during sexual acts. This involves paying the “bar tax”. This is the price you pay for the girl to leave the bar, a payment to the bar for helping you find her and for housing her normally, on some level, she “belongs” to the bar. The bar tax is typically about 400 to 1,000 baht. You pay the bartender, apparently later on the girl gets some share of this, though likely a small share. The girl leaves with you and then you take her back to your hotel. She is going to want 1,000 to 1,500 baht. This is for “short time” which is like two hours of doing whatever you want. Figure about 2,000 baht all together, that’s $60 for two hours of non stop action by a woman who culturally wants nothing more than to completely please a man. Can you imagine? An American woman is offended by the idea of “having to” please a man.
As I’ve said, two hours in “short time”. There is also overnight which is “long time”. Logical stuff.
Another good place is called Nana Plaza. Nana Plaza is a whole assortment of clubs and bars surrounding the Nana Hotel.
[url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/nana1.jpg[/url]
[url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/nana2.jpg[/url]
These are bars like at Soi Cowboy though I did find something truly mind boggling there. I went to a place called Annie’s, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/annies.jpg[/url]. Annie’s does what is called a “fish bowl”, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/fishbowl.jpg[/url]. You get to view typically about twenty or more girls through glass and you pick by number the one you want to be with. I liked number 16 ([url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/g16.jpg[/url]). For 1,500 baht ($45) this chick gave me a bath, scrubbed me, massaged me, blew me, fucked me beyond belief and then blew me and massaged me some more for two hours. The woman was an artiste. Highly recommended.
Along the way there are literally countless massage parlors. For example Sabai Sabai. You come in, they remove your shoes and give you slippers. A shower and one hour oil massage runs about 500 baht ($15). The woman you pick rubs you down, stretches you, manipulates your body in positions you cannot imagine and offers you a hand job or blow job for about 400 baht tip ($12). A no lose proposition all in all, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/sabaisabai.jpg[/url]. There are so many of these places it is impossible to count them.
Streets are lined with vendors selling knock off Levis, Calvin Klein copies, fake quartz Rolexes, magic tricks, unlicensed T shirts, children’s toys, “art”, pirate DVD’s of films currently playing in theatres in the USA, weapons, knives, etc. Do not pay quoted prices! Bargain! Offer less than asked please! Don’t be a dumb tourist. Watch for Viagra sold in the street, it’s fake, just chalk made in India, useless, forget it. I even met a street elephant, [url]www.adamlawyer.com/adam/bangkok/elephant.jpg[/url]. Everything is possible in Thailand.
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This may be old news to the seasoned LOS vets, but this board is not only for them but for others as well. Many who never post (maybe for fear of getting flammed).
So thanks and report whatever you want. Ignore critics who are but a small minority.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hi everyone,
I have a room reserved at the DAVIS Bangkok hotel, anyone knows this place?
Is it girl friendly? Close to any good place?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Stayed there 2 years ago, certainly girl tolerant (condoms available in the minibar), though the staff were a little snooty and dished out a few bitchy looks. I posted about my experience too, should be findable.
Not immediately close to anywhere of interest, but Soi Cowboy and NP are short taxi rides away.
[QUOTE=Spider916]Now something for the real perverts here.
In Erotica in NEP you have a mom and daughter team working.
The mom is a waitress and looks like a fat old dog but the daughter is cute. However, I don't know if they do double headers.
Have fun[/QUOTE]
Have you seen all the birth certificates and other papers to prove mother-daughter realtionship? Could be a scam to suck in the perverts. Otherwise the old fat one would never get laid.
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill]This may be old news to the seasoned LOS vets, but this board is not only for them but for others as well. Many who never post (maybe for fear of getting flammed).
So thanks and report whatever you want. Ignore critics who are but a small minority.[/QUOTE]
Yeah there are a lot of wankers on this board who like to maintain their positions of influence and superiority. Ignore them. There are a lot of decent guys on the site to. Nobody is going to read the entire history of ISG so a few summaries like this is a great help.
Thanks
[url]http://farangland.********.com/2008/03/wie-funbktioniert-der-eden-club-in.html[/url]
Here is the link to the French video, only can understand the Thai portion of it. Cheers.
HI! I was wondering if someone can suggest me some independent girls or some place to enjoy thai massage and fun for a day or so. I am planning to transit through BKK around 15th. Thanks. Appreciate it. ( I am from Indian origin - heard some thai women don't prefer Indian guys - is that true?)
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Have you seen all the birth certificates and other papers to prove mother-daughter realtionship? Could be a scam to suck in the perverts. Otherwise the old fat one would never get laid.[/QUOTE]
Very true, there are many "sister" teams working that are nothing more then two girls from the same village. Some of these teams might be cousins, but as far as direct blood relatives, but usually not even close....
Reminds about a girl I know in PI (Philippines for you Mick ;) ) where a girl and a lady are call themselves mother and daughter but it is nothing more then the change room lady / make up lady watching out for and being friends with one particular girl. But shoot if they don't pull in a lot of guys with that line.
BTW... got the PM, thanks....
Visited the Bamboo Beer Pub on Sukhumvit Soi 3 Saturday night and it was dead. At one time, it was a fun place to visit, but it seems to have gone downhill. They still have the live band, but there was no sign of the coyote dancers or any of the party atmosphere that I remember. Just two decent looking waitresses and a handful of freelancers that I would not touch. Just a bad night? It's been like that on my last two visits on separate occassions, so I think not. The website is down too (url below appears to be dead).
I guess this bar just fell of my list of places to visit.
[url=http://bamboopub.com/]Bamboopub.com[/url]
AT2
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Visited the Bamboo Beer Pub on Sukhumvit Soi 3 Saturday night and it was dead. At one time, it was a fun place to visit, but it seems to have gone downhill. They still have the live band, but there was no sign of the coyote dancers or any of the party atmosphere that I remember. Just two decent looking waitresses and a handful of freelancers that I would not touch. Just a bad night? It's been like that on my last two visits on separate occassions, so I think not. The website is down too (url below appears to be dead).
I guess this bar just fell of my list of places to visit.
[url=http://bamboopub.com/]Bamboopub.com[/url]
AT2[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the update and I respect your posts but not so fast... I've had very good success there over my times as well and as of March I still had a very good pick up there. It seems many girls travel in packs between there, Gullivers, Beer Garden etc.... Depends when things are happening. I'll try to check it out in a week and a half when I am there and July and August as well and update.
Also there's a collection of little places on Soi 22 that was hit and miss as well you might want to look at. Small little beer huts with pool tables and such. A few full timers there and a few girls on their night off of work. Had some dogs there and also had times there were some absolutely lovely ladies there, looks and personality.
Anyways, personally, I would not say it is dead yet. Maybe it is dying or going down but during my visits had success. So I will still keep it as a place to stop into just to check out for a while longer. FYI... a few thai girls have told me that tourism / tourists are way low, crowds are way low, weather is bad, etc... she has said all week and two weeks has been slow. Good for our selection and our prices... so maybe they just were not out in full force on the free lance front.
To those that have found it necessary to get on their soapbox. Yes, I understand some of where you are coming from. I think the "RTFF" abbreviation should be banned from the ISG. While I understand the original intention, it's just a rude way to greet other members. It would never be used in real life face to face meetings. Yes, I also agree that some members can be a bit crusty at times, and that may also discourage SOME contributors.
BUT, I find those that simply show up and read posts and ask questions, and offer only snide remarks even more of a turnoff. Many of whom are clearly regular visitors to LOS, who should have something to offer. They are the proverbial visitors to the party, who eat all the food, drink all the booze, bring nothing with them, are not very good company and then scream and moan about how they don't even like the people who threw the party in the first place!
Please look in the mirror and ask yourself if you have contributed, if not have you at least been good company. Ask yourself, if you did not like something, did you take a positive approach to GETTING IT FIXED or did you simply do everything in your power just to bad mouth the current company and do everything in your power to undermine everthing, including the good. If you are the latter, I think the crusty contributors surely offer more than you do.
Please, try to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. If you can't be part of the solution, at least try not to burn the house down, by throwing fuel all over the fire. Sometimes, the RTFF responses come from the frustration of seeing the same posters asking questions (coming to the party) but not contributing (not bringing anything). Yes, RTFF scares some off, but SOME are just too lazy or are just freeloaders in real life and they are no different in the cyber world and that's what ticks some contributors off. I don't think RTFF or sarcasm is the answer, but I certainly understand some of the sentiment.
I personally feel we need to encourage contributors, especially someone like Adamqqq, who contributed on his 1st post.
Peace,
AT2
I have taken several girls there to drink & dance. Don't recall ever seeing anything there worth shagging. Furthermore you will have to pay an entry fee just to have a looksee. In short I wouldn't recommend for picking up.
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Visited the Bamboo Beer Pub on Sukhumvit Soi 3 Saturday night and it was dead. At one time, it was a fun place to visit, but it seems to have gone downhill. They still have the live band, but there was no sign of the coyote dancers or any of the party atmosphere that I remember. Just two decent looking waitresses and a handful of freelancers that I would not touch. Just a bad night? It's been like that on my last two visits on separate occassions, so I think not. The website is down too (url below appears to be dead).
I guess this bar just fell of my list of places to visit.
[url=http://bamboopub.com/]Bamboopub.com[/url]
AT2[/QUOTE]
far be it from me to get involved in an argument - but RTFF was intended as a jog to help those "newbies" to look for themselves before asking inane questions and expecting answers. Virtually EVERY time the RTFF response is given, it's done to note to the requesting party that their answers are IN THE FORUM (if only they would take the time to SEARCH) - the problem might be that they don't know HOW to search
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]
I personally feel we need to encourage contributors, especially someone like Adamqqq, who contributed on his 1st post.
Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]
Could you please tell me exactly what he contributed with his post? If he had even bothered to take the time to quickly browse the Thailand Forum he would have seen that everything he posted has been covered ad nauseam.
He gets an A for effort and I will admit that his report was extremely well written; eventhough, in MHO... worthless. Is this what we want to encourage on the forum, a re-hash of common knowledge.
I didn't check since I am not interested because the Mom looks like an old soi dog. I have nor reason not to believe the girl, she didn't try to sell that to me, just told me as a matter of fact that the lady she talked to previously was her mom. Why don't you just go there talk to Bee and ask her?
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Have you seen all the birth certificates and other papers to prove mother-daughter realtionship? Could be a scam to suck in the perverts. Otherwise the old fat one would never get laid.[/QUOTE]
As you can see from some of my previous posts, I don't mind blowing substantial amounts of cash on entertainment or other nieceities, however I hate being taken for a ride.
Spicegirls on Soi Cowboy now have Coyotte dancers, which, in general, look mighty fine. These girls are however not barfinable, their job is to make you drink as much as you can and pay as many Ladydrinks as possible. Their ladydrinks costs a whopping 200b. For that amount she will stay a few minutes with you. Compared to the 450 bath for 45 minutes at the Pent or Forte, in a very nice setting, compared to an average looking gogo, this is clearly a rip-off. Of course they only tell you after you paid some ld that they are "good girls" and never go out with customers....
The girl I was with was very clever in suggesting that she might leave secretly with me at 2 am if I keep on paying her drinks until then....
The normal bg working in Spicegirls can only be described as very average.
So my advice to everybody is to avoid Spicegirls. I hope that Stick and others will expose this scam.
Is it just me that thinks that NEP right now is a much better venue than SC?
Cheers
[QUOTE=Spider916]As you can see from some of my previous posts, I don't mind blowing substantial amounts of cash on entertainment or other nieceities, however I hate being taken for a ride.
Spicegirls on Soi Cowboy now have Coyotte dancers, which, in general, look mighty fine. These girls are however not barfinable, their job is to make you drink as much as you can and pay as many Ladydrinks as possible. Their ladydrinks costs a whopping 200b. For that amount she will stay a few minutes with you. Compared to the 450 bath for 45 minutes at the Pent or Forte, in a very nice setting, compared to an average looking gogo, this is clearly a rip-off. Of course they only tell you after you paid some ld that they are "good girls" and never go out with customers....
The girl I was with was very clever in suggesting that she might leave secretly with me at 2 am if I keep on paying her drinks until then....
The normal bg working in Spicegirls can only be described as very average.
So my advice to everybody is to avoid Spicegirls. I hope that Stick and others will expose this scam.
Is it just me that thinks that NEP right now is a much better venue than SC?
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Now, this is an excellent contribution and the kind we should be encouraging: new material, important subject matter and informative.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Could you please tell me exactly what he contributed with his post? If he had even bothered to take the time to quickly browse the Thailand Forum he would have seen that everything he posted has been covered ad nauseam.
He gets an A for effort and I will admit that his report was extremely well written; eventhough, in MHO... worthless. Is this what we want to encourage on the forum, a re-hash of common knowledge.[/QUOTE]You're old, aren't you?
Excellent newbie update, Adamqqq. Johnthescot beat me to it posting a link to ROD.
RA, what on earth are you wittering on about? You always used to write that helping noobs was one of the main purposes of the Section. What's changed?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Could you please tell me exactly what he contributed with his post? If he had even bothered to take the time to quickly browse the Thailand Forum he would have seen that everything he posted has been covered ad nauseam.
He gets an A for effort and I will admit that his report was extremely well written; eventhough, in MHO... worthless. Is this what we want to encourage on the forum, a re-hash of common knowledge.[/QUOTE]
RA,
I know you are a hotshot contributor to this forum, but I think you were too harsh on Adam. That was and excellent first post and from what I have seen, 99% of first posts are of "can you give me her number" or "where can I find good girls" variety. Adam's post may not have provided any new info for BKK vets like you and me, but it is a very helpful one for newbies. Plus, think of how many pages of useless posts a newbie has to navigate to get to an informative post. If there was a post like Adam's on every page, it would be awesome. In other words, common knowledge must be rehashed in order for this forum to remain useful. Finally, everyone's experience and perspective is different and that's what makes this forum so great. For example, plenty of people here had a great time in Rainbow II in NEP. I, on the other hand, was shooed off and could not enter it because of my skin color.
Sarcasm and criticism are far too easy and only discourage other posters. I hope you take no offense.
Cheers
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]To those that have found it necessary to get on their soapbox. Yes, I understand some of where you are coming from. I think the "RTFF" abbreviation should be banned from the ISG. While I understand the original intention, it's just a rude way to greet other members. It would never be used in real life face to face meetings. Yes, I also agree that some members can be a bit crusty at times, and that may also discourage SOME contributors.
BUT, I find those that simply show up and read posts and ask questions, and offer only snide remarks even more of a turnoff. Many of whom are clearly regular visitors to LOS, who should have something to offer. They are the proverbial visitors to the party, who eat all the food, drink all the booze, bring nothing with them, are not very good company and then scream and moan about how they don't even like the people who threw the party in the first place!
Please look in the mirror and ask yourself if you have contributed, if not have you at least been good company. Ask yourself, if you did not like something, did you take a positive approach to GETTING IT FIXED or did you simply do everything in your power just to bad mouth the current company and do everything in your power to undermine everthing, including the good. If you are the latter, I think the crusty contributors surely offer more than you do.
Please, try to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. If you can't be part of the solution, at least try not to burn the house down, by throwing fuel all over the fire. Sometimes, the RTFF responses come from the frustration of seeing the same posters asking questions (coming to the party) but not contributing (not bringing anything). Yes, RTFF scares some off, but SOME are just too lazy or are just freeloaders in real life and they are no different in the cyber world and that's what ticks some contributors off. I don't think RTFF or sarcasm is the answer, but I certainly understand some of the sentiment.
I personally feel we need to encourage contributors, especially someone like Adamqqq, who contributed on his 1st post.
Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]I agree with you completly. I just had the "RTFF" argument in the China section. I think it is rude, in many cases people new do try to read back to answer there questions, in some cases there are people that join the forum and don't read any posts and start posting stupid questions. Not all germans hate jews, not all muslims are terrorists and not all newbies have not bothered to "RTFF"!
The Thailand boards are some of the most easy going, inviting, easy to post (without fear of flaming) forums there are, and that is a good thing and what makes this board so great.
What there needs to be is a FAQ in this forum that newbies could refer to prior to posting any stupid questions they may have. It should be updated reqularly so its upto date about pricing, where to go and whatever stupid questions that come up on a regular basis because newbies don't want to read more then 10 pages of this forum. That would solve alot of the problems aswell as making newbies feel they've gained knowledge from this forum fast and easy and make them all the more willing to help to contribute to it and keep it great.
Its rainy season now, and the girls know that its off peak for tourist season, there are less punters around and so many give up on the freelance bars. You also have to remember that Thai boyfriends have to be kept happy at the weekend, so generally Friday to Sunday night is a poor showing in the freelance bars now, only when boyfriend is back at work do they come out for extra money during the week.
However, that said, high oil prices and the rising cost of living is no doubt going to make many people struggle, so there may be a surge in freelancers later this summer, as more and more turn to the occasional freelance to make ends meet.
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Visited the Bamboo Beer Pub on Sukhumvit Soi 3 Saturday night and it was dead. At one time, it was a fun place to visit, but it seems to have gone downhill. They still have the live band, but there was no sign of the coyote dancers or any of the party atmosphere that I remember. Just two decent looking waitresses and a handful of freelancers that I would not touch. Just a bad night? It's been like that on my last two visits on separate occassions, so I think not. The website is down too (url below appears to be dead).
I guess this bar just fell of my list of places to visit.
[url=http://bamboopub.com/]Bamboopub.com[/url]
AT2[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crypton]RA,
Sarcasm and criticism are far too easy and only discourage other posters. I hope you take no offense.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
I take no offense, it's just my opinion that it was a worthless post. Others disagree, so-be-it. No one says they are wrong, or that I am right.
I think I am more concerned that it's worthy as a ROD, albeit well written, it offered nothing of value to anyone who has the slightest knowledge about Bangkok. In a week it will be relegated to the dust bin. So I don't see what all the flack is about. Please explain to this little pea brain of mine...
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Excellent newbie update, Adamqqq. Johnthescot beat me to it posting a link to ROD.
RA, what on earth are you wittering on about? You always used to write that helping noobs was one of the main purposes of the Section. What's changed?[/QUOTE]
Nothing has changed. Unlike many other "Senior Members" I don't automatically tell a new member to RTFF. I don't mind answering newbie questions as long as they are legitimate, it's the ones that don't offer any thought, e.g., are there girls availble in BKK... that raise my hackles. In my opinion Adamqqq's report fell into this category. But, I do give him credit for an extremely well written report. He is obviously well educated.
The ROD are totally random. There was one in the Auckland (NZ) forum which consisted of 6 lines about one punters failed attempt at anal sex with a ladyboy in a dark allyway. And I was so elated when I had one ROD but the grim realisation that they were random was such as downer.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I take no offense, it's just my opinion that it was a worthless post. Others disagree, so-be-it. No one says they are wrong, or that I am right.
I think I am more concerned that it's worthy as a ROD, albeit well written, it offered nothing of value to anyone who has the slightest knowledge about Bangkok. In a week it will be relegated to the dust bin. So I don't see what all the flack is about. Please explain to this little pea brain of mine...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Could you please tell me exactly what he contributed with his post? If he had even bothered to take the time to quickly browse the Thailand Forum he would have seen that everything he posted has been covered ad nauseam.
He gets an A for effort and I will admit that his report was extremely well written; eventhough, in MHO... worthless. Is this what we want to encourage on the forum, a re-hash of common knowledge.[/QUOTE]
RA,
Gotta disagree with you on this one. Common knowledge to you, but may be important info for newbies and possibly not so newbies who don't explore much. If we blast his report, where do we draw the line? Posters then sensor themselves, and we never get to see possibly new info. Just my thoughts on this.
My visit to the Bamboo Bar is a perfect example. Been there many times over the years. My last two visits were downright depressing, when in the past I had fun. I would like to hear others opinions, and it might be old news to some, but it would be welcome news for me.
Peace,
AT2
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Thanks for the update and I respect your posts but not so fast... I've had very good success there over my times as well and as of March I still had a very good pick up there. It seems many girls travel in packs between there, Gullivers, Beer Garden etc.... Depends when things are happening. I'll try to check it out in a week and a half when I am there and July and August as well and update.
Also there's a collection of little places on Soi 22 that was hit and miss as well you might want to look at. Small little beer huts with pool tables and such. A few full timers there and a few girls on their night off of work. Had some dogs there and also had times there were some absolutely lovely ladies there, looks and personality.
Anyways, personally, I would not say it is dead yet. Maybe it is dying or going down but during my visits had success. So I will still keep it as a place to stop into just to check out for a while longer. FYI... a few thai girls have told me that tourism / tourists are way low, crowds are way low, weather is bad, etc... she has said all week and two weeks has been slow. Good for our selection and our prices... so maybe they just were not out in full force on the free lance front.[/QUOTE]
Tansak,
I really do hope I am wrong on the Bamboo Bar situation. I left the place depressed, but luckily a smile is usually just around the corner in BKK. The girls had no energy or smiles about them, so it was not just a lack of freelancers that was cause for concern.
Thanks for the heads up on Soi 22. I must confess it's been about 2 years, since I hit any of the bars there. The massage venues are the first things on my mind around that area. Titanium still around? I know Queen's Park Plaza does not get much pub, so it would be good to hear some stories from the members.
You are right about it being slow. I had the pick of the litter every night. The selection of girls was down a bit, but the lack of competitors more than made up for it. Even near closing time, there were still hot girls left and many were asking for B3,000 to B4,000 up front and dropping the asking price to B1,500 as soon as I laughed, rolled my eyes or turned around to walk! LOL!
AT2
I've never seen actual ROD criteria posted by our Great Leader. I can say that when a new member makes a first post of more than one paragraph, it often becomes an ROD.
Adam's post was indeed informative, although some BKK vets would find it repetitive. My biggest concern with his post is access to some personal information about him.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]far be it from me to get involved in an argument - but RTFF was intended as a jog to help those "newbies" to look for themselves before asking inane questions and expecting answers. Virtually EVERY time the RTFF response is given, it's done to note to the requesting party that their answers are IN THE FORUM (if only they would take the time to SEARCH) - the problem might be that they don't know HOW to search[/QUOTE]
Dinghy,
No need for an argument. I realize the original idea was for a fun jab at a buddy, hey RTFF LOL! The problem is that it's not that clear, and very open to misinterpretation by the reader or misuse when genuine anger is behind the response. I'm a regular in Asia, but just an infrequent visitor to South America and I was turned off, going to those threads. That thread is brutal to "outsiders" and I would not want to see the Asia threads turn into similar hostile grounds. I don't even bother posting in the South America threads. I was also a member of a Canadian Board, and it was so full of shills and attacks that I left that one too.
Peace,
AT2
[QUOTE=Spider916]I didn't check since I am not interested because the Mom looks like an old soi dog. I have nor reason not to believe the girl, she didn't try to sell that to me, just told me as a matter of fact that the lady she talked to previously was her mom. Why don't you just go there talk to Bee and ask her?[/QUOTE]
Yes sorry about the silly question. What I meant was that Thai girls often exaggerate about family relationships, using words more lossly than westerners. Girls that claim to be sisters, 9 times out of 10 don't actually have the same father or same mother. I presume someone quoted as a "mother" could easily be an auntie, cousin, close friend/protector etc.
I find it a little unlikely (but not 100% impossible) that a mother and daughter would be so brazen as to work in the same bar. It doesn't fit with Thai moral values.
What mother could show her face, allowing her daugther to be bar-fined by any guy qnting to screw her? Again a retorical question.
Being an incredible skeptic, I wouldn't believe these 2 woomen's story without proof which is obviously not available. Of course i could be wrong.
And in the end, the fantasy could be had by someone whether based on truth or not. But would not be my interest. I am embarrassed to say that I have done "real" sisters, separated by a long time gap, once. But both were good looking and both D cups.
Very soon I’ll be coming to Thailand. I’ve been there before but am by no means any expert on things talked about on this forum nor do I speak any Thai. I have some things to attend to while there, the reason of my trip, but they are uninteresting in this context. Besides that I will have a lot of spare time, which I intend to use in a fun and dirty way.
I am not rich and I am travelling on a limited budget. No business class for me, unfortunately. That goes for plane, hotels and women. Although I, of course, wished I was wealthier person that’s not so bad. Why, you might ask. Well, I am not looking for the high class experience, quite on the opposite. This is the perfect moment to be living in the lost world, a world that is long gone back in the western society where I am living/slowly committing suicide.
So I am somewhat attracted to the more filthy side of the market. That means streetwalkers, brothels serving the Thai markets and (unfortunately rarely seen) mature women in their 40-50ies. Of course I normally prefer beautiful girls between 20-25 but that’s what I am looking for back home. Although I would gladly go with an attractive friendly young girl, in Thailand I also want something different.
As I said I am no expert in these matters, but I have done some research, both on the internet and in real life. Particularly mature ladies is hard to find. I am not talking about 30-year old bargirls but housewife types and divorced women in the age 40-50.
I read somewhere on this forum about mature ladies in the Lumpini park. I went there a few times both in the day and in the evening and walked around but found nothing. That was a disappointment.
Another place I went looking for matures is the big street parallel to Khao San Road, the one on the west side of the Democracy Monument. On the left side of the street (heading west) late in the evening I have seen some mature streetwalkers, but they are not many. Not far away on the parallel street on the south there is a short time hotel.
An interesting experience I found in Chinatown after a long search. So, I was walking up and down the streets of China town. The streets were crowded, full of (Chinese) thais, and rarely if ever was a farang face to be seen. The sun was setting and I thought of going back to my hotel when I passed by what seemed to be a big garage (if I remember correctly). Outside was sitting a woman in her forties. I almost didn’t notice her, but when I walked by she talked to me. I didn’t quite understand her at first, with all the noise of street surrounding us, but I heard the word ‘massage’ and it seemed as if she wanted me to follow her inside. I agreed. "The garage" turned out to be a shabby hotel, apparently for long term staying. She led me up through the stairs and then to a little room at the end of a hallway. It was a small room full of stuff for permanent living. She told me to take a shower, while she started undressing. I showered and then went out to her and she told me to lie down on the bed. Her attitude was relaxed, friendly but quite uninterested. Then there was some mechanical sex in two positions. Afterwards she gave me a really good massage. I got dressed and we said good bye. The whole session was 300 bht. When I came out on the street it was already dark. The whole was very unerotic and but that wasn’t expected either. And I was not looking for any GFE or quality sex, I just wanted this new seedy experience which is not available back home. I have to say it was interesting. This was on a street connecting to the roundabout road junction in Chinatown.
Walking on the streets connecting to the roundabout I passed by several streetwalkers who sometimes were hanging outside what seemed to short time hotels. They were often not quality girls but I liked the off beaten track sightseeing anyway. I didn’t go with anyone of them but maybe next time I will. The roundabout itself also has its share of streetwalkers who were coming out in the evening.
If anyone has any tips about the local market or mature ladies (in Bangkok or Pattaya), please share. Maybe I’ll see you in BKK soon.
(Sorry for the broken English, not a native speaker)
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]RA,
Gotta disagree with you on this one. Common knowledge to you, but may be important info for newbies and possibly not so newbies who don't explore much. If we blast his report, where do we draw the line? Posters then sensor themselves, and we never get to see possibly new info. Just my thoughts on this.
My visit to the Bamboo Bar is a perfect example. Been there many times over the years. My last two visits were downright depressing, when in the past I had fun. I would like to hear others opinions, and it might be old news to some, but it would be welcome news for me.
Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]
You are absoultely correct. If someone has absolutely no knowledge about Bangkok then his report is valuable. I tend to forget that there are people out there who know absolutely nothing about Bangkok, Thailand or Thai culture. Unfortunately, some of them are senior members on this forum who pass themselves off as experts.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I tend to forget that there are people out there who know absolutely nothing about Bangkok, Thailand or Thai culture. Unfortunately, some of them are senior members on this forum who pass themselves off as experts.[/QUOTE]
And there are also farang residents of Thailand who get confused about the most basic of information, such as the names of hotels in their neighbourhood, and even get the names and locations of (mainly Thai-oriented) resorts on the eastern seaboard mixed up, etc, etc. These posters, quite comically, also try to pass themselves off as experts.
It's no big deal of course. We're all here to share a bit of info and opinion, and have a bit of fun.
[QUOTE=Lonzo]The whole session was 300 bht...This was on a street connecting to the roundabout road junction in Chinatown.
If anyone has any tips about the local market or mature ladies (in Bangkok or Pattaya), please share. Maybe I’ll see you in BKK soon.
(Sorry for the broken English, not a native speaker)[/QUOTE]
You should contact Opebo, he knows the Chinatown area very well and can help you find something within the 300 per session price range.
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Dinghy,
No need for an argument. I realize the original idea was for a fun jab at a buddy, hey RTFF LOL! The problem is that it's not that clear, and very open to misinterpretation by the reader or misuse when genuine anger is behind the response. I'm a regular in Asia, but just an infrequent visitor to South America and I was turned off, going to those threads. That thread is brutal to "outsiders" and I would not want to see the Asia threads turn into similar hostile grounds. I don't even bother posting in the South America threads. I was also a member of a Canadian Board, and it was so full of shills and attacks that I left that one too.
Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]I think it is interesting that members gain status through reports and when you look at a majority of their posts they are only being critical of other members or trying to maintain their superiority. I could give two shits that someone has 1, 000 posts if they're being an asshole almost every time they touch the keyboard trying to remind us how great their knowledge is like we should all bow in their presence. They aren't really adding anything to the forum. This is the reason for so many lurkers.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Geez, is it just me that gets wound up by this?? Seriously?? Can't be!!
Luckily I've reinvented by self as a calm controlled individual. :-)
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]Great Post Adammqqq,
John and others. I agree. I think it was a great post and tough for those who already know everything there is to know about Thailand, Bangkok & Thai women Let them live in their deluded world being so-called Thai Mongering / Thai Women experts. But you see they are Senior Members. They have the right to denigrate others!
Freddy
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Hi Sfifred,
Nobody (including Senior Members) has any right to denigrate any other forum member.
Please use the "Report this post to a moderator" link at the bottom left of every report to report any problematic or denigrating posts directly to me and I will take the appropriate action.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Aslan]I think it is interesting that members gain status through reports and when you look at a majority of their posts they are only being critical of other members or trying to maintain their superiority. I could give two shits that someone has 1, 000 posts if they're being an asshole almost every time they touch the keyboard trying to remind us how great their knowledge is like we should all bow in their presence. They aren't really adding anything to the forum. This is the reason for so many lurkers.[/QUOTE]
With your attitude maybe you should have remained a lurker.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]With your attitude maybe you should have remained a lurker.[/QUOTE]See, I rest my case.
[QUOTE=Spider916]As you can see from some of my previous posts, I don't mind blowing substantial amounts of cash on entertainment or other nieceities, however I hate being taken for a ride.
Spicegirls on Soi Cowboy now have Coyotte dancers, which, in general, look mighty fine. These girls are however not barfinable, their job is to make you drink as much as you can and pay as many Ladydrinks as possible. Their ladydrinks costs a whopping 200b. For that amount she will stay a few minutes with you. Compared to the 450 bath for 45 minutes at the Pent or Forte, in a very nice setting, compared to an average looking gogo, this is clearly a rip-off. Of course they only tell you after you paid some ld that they are "good girls" and never go out with customers....
The girl I was with was very clever in suggesting that she might leave secretly with me at 2 am if I keep on paying her drinks until then....
The normal bg working in Spicegirls can only be described as very average.
So my advice to everybody is to avoid Spicegirls. I hope that Stick and others will expose this scam.
Is it just me that thinks that NEP right now is a much better venue than SC?
Cheers[/QUOTE]
I also got an odd vibe at Spicegirls. There were some hot dancers, doing their thing on the poles and spotlight stages around the main stage. I'm not sure if they are the Coyote Dancers Spider was referring to, since they seemed to be regular Go-Go dancers to me. The best of the bunch was pulled from the stage quickly, as another customer made his move. Funny thing is that they never left the bar, while I was there. They just drank in the corner. One of the girls took my drink order, while I took in the view of the dancers, one right in front of me on a table dance type stage right in the center of my booth. There's one of them at each booth area.
She came back with my drink and ask me if she could have one. She was cute, so I bought her one, while I was checking out the dancers and then asked her how much for ST/LT. She said she could only go to the ST hotel that night. I thought I misunderstood her or she misunderstood me. I told her, no .. back to my hotel. She shook her head, and said she could not. Maybe tomorrow night, was the response. Yeah, sure and I paid the bill and left.
Too bad, since there's some talent there.
AT2
[QUOTE=Lonzo]
If anyone has any tips about the local market or mature ladies (in Bangkok or Pattaya), please share. Maybe I’ll see you in BKK soon.
[/QUOTE]
Hi Lonzo,
Not really into grannies myself but I did spot one on the Thai section of escorttown.com some time ago (and posted her pix here asking if anyone had tried her) that I would be seriously tempted to take on.
Her working name is hot_nid and I think she is 49. Not the dirt cheap 300 baht ho that you referred to in your post but rates are reasonable. And she is a 3-holer if you are into that sort of thing.
You will find her pix at [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=706415&postcount=1369[/url]. Post a report if you happen to try. GH
I did the Cowboy bar hop, through some of the well known bars, but was short on time so I probably missed a lot. Long Gun, Rawhide, and Bacarra are looking a bit worn. Lot's of girls in the front of the bars, trying to pull customers in. I had a girl from the Shark Bar snag me. Quite attractive, but very annoying once we got inside. I couldn't understand her, as her english skills were quite bad and she spoke too fast. She wanted me to barfine her, the moment we hit the seat. I passed and avoided what surely would have been certain disaster.
Peace,
AT2
[B]A FEW SOI COWBOY BARS:[/B] (General Comments and websites, and I will be the first to admit, pretty basic stuff. Hopefully the websites will help.)
[b]Long Gun[/b] – Still busy the night I got there. Decent selection that night, but no one outstanding.
[url=http://www.longgun.com/]Long Gun website[/url]
[b]Rawhide[/b] – The sister club to Long Gun. Very empty the night I visited.
[url=http://www.rawhide-bangkok.com/]Rawhide website[/url]
[b]Baccara[/b] – 2nd floor see-through concept w/Girls dancing sans panties. Waitress kept pointing out the upstairs to me a few too many times.
[url=http://www.baccara-bar.com/baccara/Welcome.html]Baccara website[/url]
[b]Doll House[/b] – Decent bar. Large screen TV seems a bit out of place, but I'm sure it get's some of the Soccer/Football fans.
[url=http://www.dollhouse-agogo.com/]Doll House website[/url]
[b]Suzie Wong[/b] – Missed the show, and not much else happening the night I went in.
[b]Tilac[/b] – I think I stuck my head in, but I know I did not stay for drinks and the dancers.
[b]Shark[/b] – Got pulled in and they had a decent selection, but the annoying girl that pulled me in, had me heading for the door. Shark and Spicegirls had the best selections on my visit.
[url=http://www.sharkbangkok.com/]Shark website[/url]
[b]Midnite[/b] – Did not visit and don't have a comment.
[url=http://www.midnite.biz/]Midnite website[/url]
[b]Afterskool[/b] – Cheap drinks, aggressive girls, School Girl uni’s, and a naughty boy corner. I did not stop in on this visit.
[b]Apache[/b] – Smallish bar with table dancing. Previously no tops, no panties, lot’s of mirrors, but on this visit I was denied entry. "Members club" they told me. I did not care to ask what their membership requirements were, since it must be off limits to me. No offer was even made to me, to become a "member".
[b]Déjŕ vu[/b] – Did not visit.
[url=http://www.dejavubar.com/] Déjŕ Vu website[/url]
[b]SpiceGirls[/b] – Expanded in 2007, and had a great but somewhat smallish selection. My comments were already noted in the prior post.
[url=http://www.spicegirls.biz/]Spice Girls website[/url]
[b]Sheba’s[/b] – Egyptian themed bar, but I never got around to them.
[B]SOI COWBOY FIELD REPORTS:[/B]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=705912]PassinThrough’s Excellent Adventure[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=667706&highlight=spice#post667706]Field report by John Euro[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=688235&highlight=rainbow+nana#post688235]Baccara report by Xdentx[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=711458&postcount=1507]Suzy Wong Show recommendation by NicFrenchy[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=705212&postcount=1349]Soi Cowboy field report by Pheasant[/url]
[QUOTE=Lonzo So, I was walking up and down the streets of China town. The streets were crowded, full of (Chinese) thais, and rarely if ever was a farang face to be seen. The sun was setting and I thought of going back to my hotel when I passed by what seemed to be a big garage (if I remember correctly). Outside was sitting a woman in her forties. I almost didn’t notice her, but when I walked by she talked to me. I didn’t quite understand her at first, with all the noise of street surrounding us, but I heard the word ‘massage’ and it seemed as if she wanted me to follow her inside. I agreed. "The garage" turned out to be a shabby hotel, apparently for long term staying. She led me up through the stairs and then to a little room at the end of a hallway. It was a small room full of stuff for permanent living. She told me to take a shower, while she started undressing. I showered and then went out to her and she told me to lie down on the bed. Her attitude was relaxed, friendly but quite uninterested. Then there was some mechanical sex in two positions. Afterwards she gave me a really good massage. I got dressed and we said good bye. The whole session was 300 bht. When I came out on the street it was already dark. The whole was very unerotic and but that wasn’t expected either. And I was not looking for any GFE or quality sex, I just wanted this new seedy experience which is not available back home. I have to say it was interesting. This was on a street connecting to the roundabout road junction in Chinatown.
If anyone has any tips about the local market or mature ladies (in Bangkok or Pattaya), please share. Maybe I’ll see you in BKK soon.
(Sorry for the broken English, not a native speaker)[/QUOTE]
A friend of mine followed some girl through a narrow alley in Chinatown. She brought him to some dirty room, locked the door and started giving him a shower not taking her clothes off. During the shower, as she went to get something in the room, she ran out with his money.
Regular massage parlors, especially along Sukhumvit, are great places to find mature women. If you see something you like just ask her to give you a massage in your room. Some will jump at the idea. Last trip, while my LT date was waiting for me to get a body massage, I screwed a 50 something year old massage lady, right there in the stall. If you PM me I will give you an exact location of that massage parlor. You will like the lady.
Hi fellow mongers
Thanks for all the fantastic background for planning my trip to Thailand this November. I've been lurking and reading a lot.
I started my international mongering career in Hong Kong in March and did manage one post before my laptop gave up the ghost. Although I'm getting past the prime of life, I had a great five days there averaging 2 girls per day.
I'm hoping to equal or better that in the LOS. My plan is for 3 days in Bangkok, 3 days in Pattaya, and then 3 days in Chiang Mai with a Thai girl I spent some nights with in HK. (I did spend about two hours outside the bedroom with her. Does that qualify her as a 'girlfriend'?)
Although I've read lots on the forum I do need some further specific advice / recommendations if anybody is willing to help. (My problem is that, compared to many of the posts I read, I've only got a limited time in each place and need to make the most of it.)
In Bangkok, with 3 nights and 2 full days, I'm hoping to
... have girl(s) back to my room for overnight on 3 nights
... probably freelancers from Beer Garden or Thermae. Anywhere else good to pick up from?
... have a 2-girl special at Eden
... have a soapie massage at Annie's or Tulip .. or both
Any other 'must-do's'?
I've read a lot of hotel recommendations but need to make a final decision. Livingstones sounds good but looks to be a bit away from the action for what I want. Is that right?
If not Livingstones then probably between Majestic Suites, Grand President pr Dynasty Grande?
I read somewhere that if you're taking two or more girls back you're better in an apartment? The Royal President Apartments look good but again a bit away from the action?
I've been on Google Earth but it's still difficult to know how far everything is and how easy to get around - particularly in getting a girl back to the hotel late at night/early morning. In HK I stayed in Wanchai and it was a hundred yards walk back to the hotel after picking a girl up at one of the nightclubs. Very handy and no hassle.
The same applies to Pattaya. I've reserved at the Pattaya Bay Resort because it sounded extremely girl-friendly. But is there a good hotel nearer to the action? (I'll post on the Pattaya forum as well)
One specific I read about and can't find out any more – a website said that you can go to a short-time hotel to be given a choice of girls and that the girls tend to be younger (legal, of course) and fresher. Any advice on where?
Sorry about all the questions and if I've missed the answers on the forum I apologise.
In return, and armed with my new MacBook, I promise you some good reports in November.
Thanks in advance for any help.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]And there are also farang residents of Thailand who get confused about the most basic of information, such as the names of hotels in their neighbourhood, and even get the names and locations of (mainly Thai-oriented) resorts on the eastern seaboard mixed up, etc, etc. These posters, quite comically, also try to pass themselves off as experts.
It's no big deal of course. We're all here to share a bit of info and opinion, and have a bit of fun.[/QUOTE]
After a few too many beers, I have forgotten my name and where I live.
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
Although I've read lots on the forum I do need some further specific advice / recommendations if anybody is willing to help. (My problem is that, compared to many of the posts I read, I've only got a limited time in each place and need to make the most of it.)
In Bangkok, with 3 nights and 2 full days, I'm hoping to
... have girl(s) back to my room for overnight on 3 nights
... probably freelancers from Beer Garden or Thermae. Anywhere else good to pick up from?
... have a 2-girl special at Eden
... have a soapie massage at Annie's or Tulip .. or both
.[/QUOTE]
Three days in any one of these places isn't going to give you much of an experience other than as a "tourist." But, they are all good places to visit. I think you will find Chiang Mai a little boreing after Bangkok and Pattaya. But to me, Chiang Mai is one of the best places in Thailand if mongering isn't your primary mission.
For free lancers I would suggest the Nana Hotel Parking Lot between 01:00 and 02:00
From 23:00 to 01:00 try Angels Disco in the basement of the Nana Hotel. My personal favorite next to Spaso's and the Pegagus Club.
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
Any other 'must-do's'?.[/QUOTE]
See a temple, but once you've seen one you've seen them all. And, be aware of the tourist touts who will tell you they are students or whatever practicing their English and then offer to show you around and will take you to places that give them a commission.
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
I've read a lot of hotel recommendations but need to make a final decision. Livingstones sounds good but looks to be a bit away from the action for what I want. Is that right?
If not Livingstones then probably between Majestic Suites, Grand President pr Dynasty Grande?.[/QUOTE]
They are all close to the Sky train and taxi's are cheap. It really doesn't make a difference as far as distance is concerned. Livingston's is probably a good choice as the owner will give you lots of information as where to go and what to do in BK.
The Nana Hotel is a good choice if you want to be close to the action. And, I mean close. But, might be difficult to book on short notice.
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
I read somewhere that if you're taking two or more girls back you're better in an apartment? The Royal President Apartments look good but again a bit away from the action?..[/QUOTE]
They don't care what you bring back to your room at Livingston's, If you don't bring a girl back they will supply one.
Check out the Livingston's Thread for more info.
Same with the Nana Hotel. If you struck out earlier you can always pick up a last minute addition from the lobby.
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
I've been on Google Earth but it's still difficult to know how far everything is and how easy to get around - particularly in getting a girl back to the hotel late at night/early morning. In HK I stayed in Wanchai and it was a hundred yards walk back to the hotel after picking a girl up at one of the nightclubs. Very handy and no hassle..[/QUOTE]
Taxi's are cheap, so it doesn't matter. just stay away from the tuk-tuks.
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
The same applies to Pattaya. I've reserved at the Pattaya Bay Resort because it sounded extremely girl-friendly. But is there a good hotel nearer to the action? (I'll post on the Pattaya forum as well)
[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I am not an expert on Pattaya. Of all the places in Thailand it's my least favorite. A real sewer as far as I am concerned. I suggest the Pattaya Thread
[QUOTE=Penbelly]Has anybody tried the tubular shaped booths at The Strip on PP2? I wasn't willing to drop the 500 baht but one night I saw a farang couple and TWO bar girls go in one of these very cramped dance booths and then clothespin the curtain shut. I wonder if there is more than just table dancing available in there? The papa-san falls all over himself taking care of the customers so I wonder if they are getting that much business.Still,this is a different twist on the go-go scene and I hope they make it.[/QUOTE]
For another 500 baht you get a hj/bj. for 1000 you get fs. It could depend on the girl but my understanging is that this is the general rule. Its more of a novelty thing. Kind of kinky..in the club behind a curtain etc.
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill]For another 500 baht you get a hj/bj. for 1000 you get fs. [/QUOTE]
Is that so? wow, the place has changed from the last time I visited then! and for the better.
I might just give them another try, providing the talent is there.
I have nothing to lose because there is some sort of comfort in the fact that SOL is right next door, with plenty of eager mouths for you to cum in.
[QUOTE]
<cut>
In Bangkok, with 3 nights and 2 full days, I'm hoping to
... have girl(s) back to my room for overnight on 3 nights
... probably freelancers from Beer Garden or Thermae. Anywhere else good to pick up from?
... have a 2-girl special at Eden
... have a soapie massage at Annie's or Tulip .. or both
Any other 'must-do's'?
I've read a lot of hotel recommendations but need to make a final decision. Livingstones sounds good but looks to be a bit away from the action for what I want. Is that right?
If not Livingstones then probably between Majestic Suites, Grand President pr Dynasty Grande?
<cut>
I've been on Google Earth but it's still difficult to know how far everything is and how easy to get around - particularly in getting a girl back to the hotel late at night/early morning. <cut>
One specific I read about and can't find out any more – a website said that you can go to a short-time hotel to be given a choice of girls and that the girls tend to be younger (legal, of course) and fresher. Any advice on where?
<cut>[/QUOTE]
This Map shows where is Annies, Tulip and many othe MPs.
Tulip is not a soapy MP.
There is a link to another Map with much more Soapy MPs.
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.737092,100.553784&spn=0.029307,0.041885&z=15[/url]
Map includes Eden, Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, Pat Pong etc.
2 girls per day is not a heavy schedule at all. Its possible to get even more into a day.
Livingstone's Lodge is not that far from Soi cowboy action and Tulip and many other MPs.
Some of the other Hotels you mention can be good choices.
In lieu of your "short time hotel with girls provided", in Thailand you just find a girl and ask her to take you to a short time Hotel nearby. Alternatively go to a Soapy MP and pick a girl. A large selection of fresh young girls is available at Nataree for example.
Each forum thread has a search function to look for posts of experiences at particular places. Do some detailed dectective work.
Must dos always depend on individual tastes.
Hi all, thanks for the replies
Tulip777:
A story about someone who got ripped off and mugged. Well, of course you have to be careful. But I like when things are not perfect predictable or going afters some standard procedure like when sitting down n a bar, order a lady drink, have some shallow chit chat. Actually I have never done that. I want to get past all those ceremonies when in Thailand. I have them back home.
Interesting story you added about the massage parlour but I haven’t yet activated pm.
Gamahucher:
That was a really interesting one. Couldn’t find here on the site you mentioned though. But I liked that type. Not that I would call it grannies…gives me bad associations .
I think I prefer the freelancer scene on the seedy side because I am not really comfortable with the bar scene. I am not especially old and I look younger than my age. I have noticed that many bar girls seem t prefer older men who they assume have more money and will stay with them. And, as I said before, it feels to close to the home dating scene, going out to pick up girls at bars, trying to be interesting to get attention. Now with the euro cup there will be hopefully something more to to in the bars than trying to communicate in languages not understood.
Also I want to clarify, that I am not looking for, or have any interests in, anything that has to do with organised trafficking or forced sex.
Ok, no time to write anymore, now I have to hurry to the airport.
If something interesting happens I will add a report.
Just a few quick observations on the HRC: Went there on Wednesday night with gf just out of interest to see the place, and stayed for about an hour at about 10pm. The music was very loud (OK, no surprise) but it would make it very hard for me to pick up anyone there, as I reckon normal conversation was all but impossible. The girls there were more expensively dressed than at the BeerGarden, and were drinking more expensive drinks, but IMHO were no better looking. Finally I was surprised by the number of ladyboys there (I was sitting downstairs with about 20 unaccompanied fl's around me, with 4-5 very obvious ladyboys on two separate tables). The ladyboys were getting plenty of attention from other guests.
All in all, not a place I would go back to unless I fancied dancing to a live band with a gf already in tow. As a pick-up joint it struck me as pretty awful, but that may be a generational thing...
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]<cut>
Although I've read lots on the forum I do need some further specific advice / recommendations if anybody is willing to help. (My problem is that, compared to many of the posts I read, I've only got a limited time in each place and need to make the most of it.)
In Bangkok, with 3 nights and 2 full days, I'm hoping to
... have girl(s) back to my room for overnight on 3 nights
... probably freelancers from Beer Garden or Thermae. Anywhere else good to pick up from?
... have a 2-girl special at Eden
... have a soapie massage at Annie's or Tulip .. or both
Any other 'must-do's'?<cut>[/quote]
Obviously Nana Plaza (Nana BTS station - Sukhumvit Soi 4) and Soi Cowboy (Asoke BTS station - near Soi 23) are must do's on your first visit, if only just to see what they are about. Taking a girl from those places, does mean paying the 600 baht barfine. Some nice options there, though, so don't count them out.
It's best if you learn to use the BTS Skytrain system and MRT Subway system as it can be tough getting a taxi driver to take you from point A to point B if it's of any distance between the two during rush hour gridlock. Very simple system. Buy an all day pass for 120 baht on the BTS and it gets you up and down Sukhumvit and through Patpong and all the way down to the river for some touristy stuff. While 3 days go by quickly, you will have time to sample enough places.
For freelancers, the Beer Garden on Sukhumvit Soi 7 during the afternoons/evenings, Thermae near Sukhumvit Soi 15 for late night, Gullivers on Sukhumvit Soi 5, the Nana car park right across Nana Plaza on Sukhumvit Soi 4 (late night/early morning), Hard Rock Cafe, Night Clubs like Bar Su, CM2 at Siam Square (Novotel hotel basement), etc. A very simple option is to hit Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy right around 2am, and be there during the mass exodus of the girls from the bars during the closing hours. Daunting task, with so many girls, though. Anyone who was not barfined, may be a potential LT companion. Internet Cafes can turn up some opportunities as well.
The Soi’s up and down Sukhumvit are full of girls. Between Soi 3, 4, 5, 7, and 11. At night, you will see an active scene near NEP (Nana Entertainment Plaza), where food carts/stalls line up the area on both sides of Sukhumvit for several blocks. Food, drinks, vendors, and woman cluster along with farang from late night to after hours. Between Soi 5 through 11, are a cluster of bars and clubs that makes for an interesting if not disorienting walk for a newbie.
Tulip is an oily, but still highly recommended and for a Soapy I prefer Nataree or Utopia over Annie's. Utopia has some real lookers, but there's a farang surcharge. Nataree is within walking distance to Huai Kwang MRT station (5 minutes and in view) and Utopia is a short Taxi ride from that same station. Not all the taxi drivers recognize the name Utopia, but enough do.
[b]RATCHADAPISEK SOAPY’S (Mick Licker’s guides):[/b]
All of the Ratchadapisek Soapy’s and Oily’s can be reached using the MRT Subway, leaving from Asoke Station. Asoke station also has an upper level, where you can catch the BTS.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=701187&highlight=massage+parlor#post701187]Ratchadapisek – Suthisan MRT Station[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=701177&highlight=massage+parlor#post701177]Ratchadapisek – Huay Kwang MRT Station[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=701173&highlight=massage+parlor#post701173]Ratchadapisek – Rama 9 MRT Station]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=677410&postcount=3036]Ratchadapisek – Rama 9 Expressway[/url]
[b]Massage Reviews, Comments and Stories by ISG Members[/b]
These are write-ups that came out after Mick’s Definitive Guide to Massage Parlors. His write-up includes many more links to reviews by MP.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=708436&postcount=3556]Akane Massage report by Daddy San[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=706360&postcount=3522]Akane Massage report by Pheasant[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=707834&postcount=3546]Body Slide Recommendations by MickLicker[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=707817&postcount=3545]Massage Stories by Mango Fan[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=709899&postcount=3584]Plaza Massage VIP Rooms by SE Asia Joe[/url] *** Yes, many of these still exist.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=709282&postcount=3567]Annie’s and Angels field report by Nic Frenchy[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=706445&postcount=3525]Tulip Field report by Dan7373[/url]
[b]AGODA HOTEL MAP[/b]
[url=http://www.agoda.com/MapManagement/Map.aspx?area_id=27713]Sukhumvit Area Hotels – Agoda Map[/url]
[b]OTHER OPTIONS:[/b]
Add in a visit to the Soi 33 bars (Phrom Pong BTS station), a visit to a G-Club like the Pent (hostess bar), hit Patpong, visit a theme\specialty massage (Akane on Soi 33 or Sazanka on Soi 22) which are massage+hj joints, a BJ bar like Star of Light in Patpong 2, and of course the Eden Club as you mentioned. Many small pool bars in the Soi 4 through Soi 11 area and also near Soi 22. Some links below:
[b]Soi 33 Bar Reports[/b]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=749388&postcount=2285]Napolean report by Mangofan[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=749537&postcount=2294]Report by Tansak KTV[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=700218&postcount=1160]Soi 33 Bar report by Giotto[/url]
[b]Pent Executive[/b] - 31/1 Wireless Road, Lumpini, Pathumwan Bangkok. Tel: 0-2655-3890
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=618554&postcount=3828]Pent field Report by Sasquatch73 – Part 1[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=618555&postcount=3829] Pent field Report by Sasquatch73 – Part 2[/url]
[b]The Soprano House[/b] – (Sukhumvit Soi 26 – Phrom Pong BTS station) .
Upscale décor, with a central bar. Live band and dancers. A large number of hostesses (50+). If I recall, an initial round of drinks and time, will cost you in excess of 2k baht.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=674715&postcount=670]Soprano House experience by JuiceGuy[/url]
[b]Pegasus[/b] - A hybrid G-Club, with drinks, food, hostesses, membership option, but with a barfine option. 112 Sukhumvit Soi 23 (Asoke BTS station and a short cab ride), Soi Prasanmitr, Bangkok 10110. Tel: 0-2258-4262.
Pro’s – Laid back, private, well dressed girls, occasional gems.
Con’s – Pricey and a bit gaudy.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=713143&postcount=1556]Pegasus pricing report by Hoboken Michael[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=729067&postcount=1869]High End girls report by Tiny 12[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=727110&postcount=1831]Pegasus report by Escort Fan[/url]
[url=http://www.pegasus-grand-sukhumvit23.com/]Pegasus website[/url]
[b]Thaniya J-Clubs[/b]
Hostess clubs catering to the Japanese. Located very near Patpong (Sala Daeng BTS station - Transfer at Siam Station). If you are farang, you won't get in, but it is an interesting walk and a little slice of Tokyo in BKK.
[url=http://bangkok.meblog.biz/article/66981.html]Club List[/url]
[url=http://www.soi-japan.com/marcopolo/]Marcopolo[/url]
[url=http://www.soi-japan.com/marmalade/]Marmalade[/url]
[url=http://www.soi-japan.com/moulinrouge/staffs/ladies.html]MoulinRouge[/url]
[b]SOL (STAR OF LIGHT) - Patpong 2[/b]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=706828&highlight=patpong#post706828]Star of Light BJ Bar pics by MickLicker[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=704740&highlight=patpong#post704740]SOL (Star of Light) Field report by Nick Frenchy[/url]
[b]ELECTRIC BLUE - PATPONG 2[/b]
The best of the Patpong Go-Go's, during my last visit. Hate the touts in the area, so be forwarned. I had to shoo them away like flies, and they kept following me. Arrrrrgh!
[b]Club Electric Blue[/b]
[url=http://clubelectricblue.com/]Club ElectricBlue Go-Go[/url]
[b]EDEN CLUB[/b] - Known as the porn star experience, with two girl action and mirrored ceilings. Pro’s – A BKK Institution highlighted by great service.
Con’s - Smallish lineup of 10 to 20 girls, with looks often a subject of debate.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=685488&highlight=Eden+opens#post685488]Eden Club opening times by Evil Penivel[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701491&postcount=1202]Eden Club pics and report by Evil Penivel[/url]
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
I've read a lot of hotel recommendations but need to make a final decision. Livingstones sounds good but looks to be a bit away from the action for what I want. Is that right?
If not Livingstones then probably between Majestic Suites, Grand President pr Dynasty Grande?
I read somewhere that if you're taking two or more girls back you're better in an apartment? The Royal President Apartments look good but again a bit away from the action?
I've been on Google Earth but it's still difficult to know how far everything is and how easy to get around - particularly in getting a girl back to the hotel late at night/early morning. In HK I stayed in Wanchai and it was a hundred yards walk back to the hotel after picking a girl up at one of the nightclubs. Very handy and no hassle.<cut>
[/quote]
Another hotel option is S15, which is very close to BTS Asoke Station (about a block away), so you have easy access to the BTS and MRT. Each stop is about a 15 to 20 minute walk between and about a 5 minute train/subway ride (not counting waiting time). Cabbages & Condoms and Crepes & Co. right across on the other side of Sukhumvit, for some great meals. Livingstones on Soi 33 is certainly still a great option.
[b]S15 HOTEL LINKS[/b]
[url=http://www.s15hotel.com/]S15 Hotel website[/url]
[url=http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293916-d797817-Reviews-S15_Sukhumvit_Hotel-Bangkok.html]S15 Hotel TripAdvisor Reviews[/url]
Down time, go see the Grand Palace and the Chao Phraya river. For shopping, there's MBK at BTS Siam Station and the Emporium at BTS Phrom Pong station. Both are connected to the Sky train stations. Very easy access. Of course, I have seen plans go down in flames, once a newbie falls in love with the first girl he meets! LOL!
Have a great time!
Peace,
AT2
Many thanks, Retired Army, Mick Licker and AT2 - great info and links.
Keep it coming please - I'd be grateful for info/input from any other members who can help as well.
This site - because of the people contributing to it - is really something special. Apart from the forums, it's extras like the Google Earth MP map, or practical info like AT2's advice that MRT stations are a 15 min walk apart - those are the kind of things that really make planning a trip much easier.
Thanks to all!
Incidentally, after Thailand I'm off to Brazil and Argentina in February/March. There's no point freezing in the UK when you can be mongering in the sun. So I'll be looking for help on those forums in next few weeks.
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
In Bangkok, with 3 nights and 2 full days, I'm hoping to
... have girl(s) back to my room for overnight on 3 nights
... probably freelancers from Beer Garden or Thermae. Anywhere else good to pick up from?
... have a 2-girl special at Eden
... have a soapie massage at Annie's or Tulip .. or both
Any other 'must-do's'?[/QUOTE]
You could, maybe, come up for air, and eat something. :-)
Seriously, though, get a good real Thai massage, visit Wat Pho and the Golden Mount, and eat from street vendors even if you're scared of them. Anything boiled all to hell can't be bad for you, so have the soup.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Just a few quick observations on the HRC:
All in all, not a place I would go back to unless I fancied dancing to a live band with a gf already in tow. As a pick-up joint it struck me as pretty awful, but that may be a generational thing...[/QUOTE]
Totally agree with you on your observation. It is a good place though to take someone. The place really gets lively around midnight and you will be wedged in there with your gf, so you will get lots of body contact with her. You will be shouting in each other ears, but most TG's like the atmosphere.
I always found it a good place to take a girl on the second or third night, if I was inclined to keep them around.
Hi Pinkerton,
Livingstones is close to the elevated mrt that people here are talking about.
To do what you want to do you will need to use the mrt anyway.
There are quite a few massage parlours & bars in the same street very close - and one bar with some nice ladies on its own premises.
Tulip and Nana area Soi 7 Beer garden and Eden (soi 9 iirc) are one mrt station away or about fifteen to twenty mins walk.
It is quite a way from some of the more famous soapies though. However, in most respects it is very good for the hobby and more convenient than the more expensive (but not necessarily better) 'name' hotels.
Also if you speak with Giotto (ask for 'the manager' - the staff don't know 'giotto'), he will be able to give you plenty of practical advice once you get there. That advice will more than compensate for any extra distance you might travel. (And like I said, you will need to use the mrt anyway - wherever you stay).
Glad everyone liked this report. I have others from other parts of the world. More pictures in those. I am taking so much flack for putting my web site as the photo host but honestly what do I care? I have nothing to hide, I am legitimately unmarried. Ha ha. How do I submit for 'distinction'. That sounds cool.
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]...Also if you speak with Giotto (ask for 'the manager' - the staff don't know 'giotto'), he will be able to give you plenty of practical advice once you get there. That advice will more than compensate for any extra distance you might travel. (And like I said, you will need to use the mrt anyway - wherever you stay).[/QUOTE]Rubberyman,
Better not ask for "the manager" - that is Auntie Guido :) ! Who knows where the customers then end up :) ??? Ask for "the boss", I know that sounds rediculous, but TIT.
Details: There is a location map somewhere on our website.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
The massage place situation here in the road is still ok. Loveteens down the road is a good place at the moment, Akane still gets positive feedbacks from our customers. Center 33 obviously closed down (that does not surprise me at all). The Teens' places (3 shops) - some like them, the quality is obviously getting better.
All those places are directly here in Soi 33, not more than 100 m from Livingstone's.
Giotto
You may not care but anyone looking can see your website and find out a lot about you. You need to make sure someone does not get hold of this a try and use it against you. Just my POV.
[QUOTE=Adamqqq]Glad everyone liked this report. I have others from other parts of the world. More pictures in those. I am taking so much flack for putting my web site as the photo host but honestly what do I care? I have nothing to hide, I am legitimately unmarried. Ha ha. How do I submit for 'distinction'. That sounds cool.[/QUOTE]
arrived on saterday but because of travelling arrangements with friends i cannot open monger i.e. hangout in nep and pickup girls from the parking lot. therefore my only recourse has been soapies and bj bars.
following recomendations from the forum i first went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in soi 8. the talent was ok but not spectacular. i availed myself of oi and we went upstairs. i liked the sleazy atmosphere with the curtained booths. since nobody else was there i was exposed to any slurping or moaning noises from other mongers. oi's skill were competent but not awesome and she neglected my balls. in the end an ok experience.
the next day i proccedded to the star of light in patpong 2, silom. i was presented with a succession of fuglies and fatties who may have had some bj talent but i'm not sure i'd want to look down. chose rabbit size 8 white skin and shoulder length hair and it was a decision i wouldn't regret. in the back room she displayed some mad skills with deep throating and paying special attention to head and balls. i was oversome by the sleaze factor of getting blown in a toilet and decided to upgrade to the full fuck for 300 bht.
anyway she comes with highest mongering endorsement and for a highly skilled bbbj one could do not better.
After having asked questions I need to make my formal report about the Eden:
First I was surprised by the average quality of the girls, little bit old, not many good looking, many also have bad skins which is kinda hard to see in the dark. But when you get closer.
Well, I picked up #8, which revealed to be a bad choice. But she picked up #28. Her choice was good.
Both of them were on the right side of the yellow line.
Went into the room, the video was broken but no issue, I was ready to play in my own movie!
I played some with #8, she blew me, I fucked her some then swith to #28. #28 is a petite very nice cutie (1m50, 40kg). I don't like that much her tattoes but I must admit she was a great kisser and gave me a great PSE. I spent the rest of the 1. 5 hours playing with her while #28 was playing with my balls and licking me almost everywhere.
The surprising thing to me is that when I came in #28 mouth, she took it all and. Swallowed. Without even me asking her! Then she had some comment on the flavor.
I don't know if it is an habit in Thailand but in China I always have to insist for them to swallow.
Well, next time I need to try another place.
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In BKK for a weekend of whats supposed to be business. Been doing that cht thing (I do P$P but love the challenge of scoring freebies in various parts of the world) Anyways arrived early on Saturday. Sent out sms to old and new.
Got a promise of Say night date and a few nibbles from old and new freebies. Had wonderful massage near my hotel. Bee seeing same gal since she was 22. I now 26 but still does it great and slowly seductively undresses for FJ in whats essentially a HJ place. She always finds me the quiet room tho with no other customers anywhere near.
Anyways met a new one on the Saturday afternoon in a Starbucks. Could tell she was going to be available but id already committed to a date for Sat night and also had plan B in the wings. Anyays we chatted and flirted and checke skeds but wasnt gongto work. WE hatted about Hi heels and turns on. And she of course wore lovely Hi heels. And just to make it interesting. We stopped on the stairs of the Starbucks we were in. And where no one could see us, she let me finger her. But then she left. Gorgeous girl too.
Had my sat night date. But she wanted to be bad girl but just couldn't so got her drunk and said goodbye. Went to NEP, Called Plan b. A cute 23 year old hairdresser who id dated once, fuckd once, and shed told me I was only her second guy ever. Anywys we met about midnight. Eventually got her into bed. She loved being porked. Then wouldn't give BJ. Asked her why. Said she didn't know how as had never done it. Oh bab. Y llet me be your teacher.
She left, I got some sleep, did some work and am no planning tonights devilish activities. Ah yes. And then theres the hot 22 year old in Pattaya who keeps calling me. Hmmm lifes great!
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[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]
I don't know if it is an habit in Thailand but in China I always have to insist for them to swallow.
Well, next time I need to try another place.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, automatically swallowing is not that common. But, always a wonderful suprise.
Yes, try other places. As I have said many times before, there are better places than the Eden Club.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]
I don't know if it is an habit in Thailand but in China I always have to insist for them to swallow.
Well, next time I need to try another place.
[/QUOTE]
Why is it necessary for them to swallow? I mean you have orgasmed already. Is it punishment for something?
Caught up with Miss J at Suzi Wong again tonight (other girls were disappointed) after she was gone for some time doing a non-p4p job, and lost her phone and my number.
1.5 hours of sex and she didn't complain at all with a shower and a 10 minute break making nearly 2 hrs.
Her pussy is not so small so she can take it all.
She is looking really pretty. She has learn't some good make-up skills.
Would be an ideal GF for me sex-wise if it wasn't for a massive age-gap. She is only 20.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Why is it necessary for them to swallow? I mean you have orgasmed already. Is it punishment for something?[/QUOTE]I would only understand this question if you were a woman. You know as well as I do that 80% of the orgasm is in the mind.
I just like the picture of COF or the girl to swallow.
Just like on movies
For 5 minutes I feel I'm Rocco!
That's it!
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]I don't know if it is an habit in Thailand but in China I always have to insist for them to swallow.[/QUOTE]
Wow, you are a true gentleman
Can be a bit off putting if the pussy is big. We all like to pretend they are not fucking 30 times a week and its just us and a couple of others grinding away from time to time in between her legs.
A big pussy gives the game away she is taking a fair amount meat inside her. And that can break the fantasy a bit. For those that like the illusion of a tighter pussy.
I have had big and small girls with tight pussies, but more often than not its the smaller girls who get very stretched open and have big pussies, not really a trait of larger girls.
Has anyone else notice this?
Perhaps its a bit psychological in that men are often afraid (or lets say not attracted to larger girls, and the fact that smaller girls are attracted to big men?
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Caught up with Miss J at Suzi Wong again tonight (other girls were disappointed) after she was gone for some time doing a non-p4p job, and lost her phone and my number.
1.5 hours of sex and she didn't complain at all with a shower and a 10 minute break making nearly 2 hrs.
Her pussy is not so small so she can take it all.
She is looking really pretty. She has learn't some good make-up skills.
Would be an ideal GF for me sex-wise if it wasn't for a massive age-gap. She is only 20.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Why is it necessary for them to swallow? I mean you have orgasmed already. Is it punishment for something?[/QUOTE]
No, it is a reward.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Caught up with Miss J at Suzi Wong again tonight (other girls were disappointed) after she was gone for some time doing a non-p4p job, and lost her phone and my number.
1.5 hours of sex and she didn't complain at all with a shower and a 10 minute break making nearly 2 hrs.
Her pussy is not so small so she can take it all.
She is looking really pretty. She has learn't some good make-up skills.
Would be an ideal GF for me sex-wise if it wasn't for a massive age-gap. She is only 20.[/QUOTE]Hello everybody,
I'm a new member and, first of all, I apologize for my faulty english, but it's not my language. Just a question: is "Miss J" the same girl I had some great sessions with last March? Her name was "Jing" (pronounced "Iiing", she had a great slender body, a beautiful face with a big smile and was a very good dancer, very lively and with a great sense of humour althoug her english was fairly basic. It was only my second time in Thailand and I enjoyed it a lot. I never had a problem (only little disappointments from time to time) and definitely loved that country.
Thank you
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Why is it necessary for them to swallow? I mean you have orgasmed already. Is it punishment for something?[/QUOTE]
The penis is most sensitive right after an orgasm, and to have a girl continue to suck you after you have cum is the most incredible feeling of all. Sometimes I have double orgasms.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow, you are a true gentleman[/QUOTE]You're right NicFrenchy, I forgot to mention that I always insist with smile and never forget to say "merci beaucoup" afterwards.
So indeed, I'm quite a gentleman.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]The penis is most sensitive right after an orgasm, and to have a girl continue to suck you after you have cum is the most incredible feeling of all. Sometimes I have double orgasms.[/QUOTE]
Yes, however this is not connected to the girl swallowing. Many MP gals also suck you long after you have CIM, but then spit it all back out.
[QUOTE=Boccaccio]Hello everybody,
I'm a new member and, first of all, I apologize for my faulty english, but it's not my language. Just a question: is "Miss J" the same girl I had some great sessions with last March? Her name was "Jing" (pronounced "Iiing", she had a great slender body, a beautiful face with a big smile and was a very good dancer, very lively and with a great sense of humour althoug her english was fairly basic. It was only my second time in Thailand and I enjoyed it a lot. I never had a problem (only little disappointments from time to time) and definitely loved that country.
Thank you[/QUOTE]
Not same girl.
Ok. First up, this name is hard enough to pronounce for a Western tongue. But more than that. Damn its a popular name.
So there I was, having a beer in Biergarden on Sunday night.
Was considering calling Ae, a har salon owner as she had stayed with me ther night before. (yes a freebie. Of course)
And then was thinking about calling Ae who does massage in a small place off Sukhumvit 5 and always make me feel wonderful.
And of course, I'm thinking about both of these and taking care to make sure that I'm sending sms to the right Ae. And at the same time I'm sharing a beer or three with. You guessed it. Ae. Shes a part time biergarden girl and a sewer of sleeves in a garment factory.
Needless to say, I slept with Ae that night!
Hello,
I'd like to know where I could buy some generic Viagra (or something like that. I see Kamgrara named often here) near Nana Plaza. Do you need a reciipt or something? Also I remember reading here about some product used to prevent fungus infections. Any suggestion?
Thanks a lot
find a drugstore - walk in, tell them what you want, pay for it and walk out. No script necessary (some kai yah are cheaper than others, though)
[QUOTE=Francesco24]Hello,
I'd like to know where I could buy some generic Viagra (or something like that. I see Kamgrara named often here) near Nana Plaza. Do you need a reciipt or something? Also I remember reading here about some product used to prevent fungus infections. Any suggestion?
Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]
two shops between marriott and the gas station at the corner of soi 4 (nana). a little past king tailor (think that's the name of the tailor)... you can't miss them. they will have your viagra and cialis and antibiotics and such.... those are the closest to you.
The large pharmacy next to Bully pub has Kamagra and what I find better is Kamagra jelly. Much quicker to ingest and therefor a 20 minute reaction time. I was there at weekend and got a deal on a 50 pack roll of the jelly. Think at Bt70 per piece. Will keep me going for a while.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]The large pharmacy next to Bully pub has Kamagra and what I find better is Kamagra jelly. Much quicker to ingest and therefor a 20 minute reaction time. I was there at weekend and got a deal on a 50 pack roll of the jelly. Think at Bt70 per piece. Will keep me going for a while.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, when you say 'jelly' does that mean gel tablets? In the US, jelly is about the same as what Brits call jam. I understand 'jelly' in Britain means what Americans call Jello. I'm guessing Kamagra comes in neither of these forms. You said it comes in a 'roll of jelly' which sounds like it might be something like fruit rollups? Then of course there's petroleum jelly -- but in a form like that would be strange to eat or whatever you'd do with it.
Just curious
Used to work long gun, then ised to play pool at Gullivers etc. Anyone seen her? Here is a pic of her tattoo on her chest.
[QUOTE=Wendella]Sorry, when you say 'jelly' does that mean gel tablets? In the US, jelly is about the same as what Brits call jam. I understand 'jelly' in Britain means what Americans call Jello. I'm guessing Kamagra comes in neither of these forms. You said it comes in a 'roll of jelly' which sounds like it might be something like fruit rollups? Then of course there's petroleum jelly -- but in a form like that would be strange to eat or whatever you'd do with it.
Just curious[/QUOTE]
Wendella,
to try to explain - a 50 pack comes in a small box (think 50 tea bag box size)
and it is niether a pill or a fruit rollup. It is a small foil pack, rip off one corner and just squeeze out it's contents directly into your mouth, btw, best to have water or something to wash it down with, somewhat bitter. comes in orange or pineapple flavor, hope that helps.
Man this is a after hours spot . its get crowded around 2 AM and they close around 5 AM . I never seen a selection of so many young Georges white skin girls in one place before in Bangkok. Most don't speak English I would say %50 percent come with Thai boyfriends or escort. But the other %50 percent are available and wild and crazy.and they love to get drunk. I didn't even see one dark skin issan girl there . Maybe they are ashamed to go there because they are not in demand. its in Sukhumvit soi 20 in the lobby of the Hotel .
Yes. Miles2Go explained what it is correctly.
I have had some "plumbing probs" in past and started out sorting out whether it was Viagra/Cialis etc that worked for me. That got expensive at the prices they charge and the fact I need 100g each time.
Then I found Kamagra tablets. One third of price. Its hit or miss as some are 100g but maybe not all. But still highly effective and affordable.
Then I found the jelly and its works fast.
Today case in point. My lady friend in the city I live in called me and said she was hot and could we meet. And by the way shes outside my ofice block and can we go now. Sure. Suck a kamagra jelly. We met. And within 25 mins I'm in her. Pumping. And this is from a guy with dodgy plumbing who can't erect without help. And no I don't get comission on kamagra sales!
Dear brothers,
I have been following this forum for years already and found the information provided by all of you extremely valuable. Therefore I finally decided that I should register and start trying to contribute as well. So, here comes my first post about my recent 2 day hunting trip in Bangkok.
I arrived to Bangkok airport Tuesday evening around 8pm and jumped into a taxi as fast as I could (I had a plan for the evening and I didn't want to miss any of the action...). The driver tried to agree to a fixed price of 400THB but I have been here often enough to tell him to put the meter on instead. No hassle, meter on, takes about 30min to get to my hotel Majestic Grande on Sukhumvit Soi 2, final cost less than 300THB including the highway tolls & airport service fee.
It's my first time in this hotel, so a few remarks:
- I paid 3600THB per night, a slightly bigger type of room, bfast included, taxes included
- location is excellent: Annie's Massage literally 15 steps away from the hotel door (yes, I did count the steps) and Nana, Beergarden etc only a few minutes walk away.
- IMHO the hotel is not very Majestic or Grande (I mean it's not a very big hotel actually) but nicely maintained, good service
- room was rather spacious, design not quite my taste but it has all you could need. And it's clean & tidy. The only downside was the smell that hit me when I opened the door for the first time. It came from the bathroom so better keep the bathroom door closed...and maybe call a plumber?
- excellent breakfast in my opinion
- pool looked small, but I never tested that nor the gym room (yeah I had my sports gear with me but surprisingly ended up doing the kind of physical exercises that are best implemented with no clothes on).
Anyway, as my intention is not to write a hotel review but more like a pussy review, let's cut the crap and continue.
After changing clothes and having a couple of beers from the minibar, I decided to start executing my plan. As I was pretty tired, my plan was to get a beer or two in some bar at Nana's ground floor, then head for one of the go-go bars in Nana, pick up a sweet little princess and head back to the hotel. I wanted to save my energy for the next evening and not party too hard on the first night. So I ended up to the first bar on the left hand side when entering to Nana and ordered a beer. I had been able to finish half of my first beer and was just thinking of settling the bill and getting ready for the next move when a very sweet looking lady comes to chat with me. She really had an angel's face and I couldn't get my eyes off her. She spoke pretty good english so we chatted for a while. She was 32 years, with slim body, small boobs from what I could tell through her outfit (just the way I like it, I am not so crazy about huge tits, probably because my wife has big ones...). I started to slip from my plan. I offered to buy her a beer, and she accepted willingly (can you imagine?). She worked for the bar and told I can barfine her with 600THB. I was hesitating and ordered another beer and one more for her as well. And another one...and another after the other and so on. So there goes the plan and I was getting drunk. The girl was getting drunk as well and it started to be quite impossible to understand if she was speaking English or Thai to me. Either way, I didn't understand half of the stuff. She kept on repeating that she is not a BS speaking girl, which immediately rang an alarm bell somewhere in my brains but I was drunk enough to ignore it. Perfectly against my plan, and against my instincts I decided to barfine her and go back to the hotel. I told her I wanted LT, and she agreed. The bill at the bar was something like 1700THB including the barfine so I guess we had ordered about 10 beers. On the way to hotel she insisted to have one more beer in another bar. Finally we got to the hotel, no hassle from security guards or any other staff.
In the room she wanted another beer, thats all I understood from her talking at this point. Finally we got to the business, or so I thought when she undressed. She wanted to take showers separately, no bath even though I asked for it. So after cleaning up we ended up to bed. Her body was great, nicely shaven pussy, really firm boobs, just excellent, and I was horny as hell. We started to kiss, followed by about 5 seconds of DATY, when she pulled me up and said she wants to fuck. Ok so no BJ yet, but I was horny so whatever. I put on condom and she guided me inside, me on top. She's pretty tight but I was doing all the work and she's like a dead fucking fish. I was getting frustrated and just didn't feel like coming. I stopped and told her that I was not happy for her services. She mumbled her apologies and something else I don't understand. Then she asked can she go now. Hell yeah, please go and let me sleep at least peacefully. I sent her out, and didn't pay anything for the nothing I got. The best part was that she gave her phone number and asked me to call next day. Well, that wasn't quite what I was expecting, but an experience anyway. I can only blaime my self of course, and a bit of bad luck as well. Luckily I had another day & night left.
In the morning I woke up with moderate hangover around 9am. I was still horny and frustrated about last night's episode so after breakfast I took the 15 steps to Annie's. Can you imagine a better way to start the day and heal your hangover than with a nice soapy massage? Annie's opens at 10am, and when I got there it was 10:30. So I took the stairs to the 2nd floor where I was greeted by the mamasan. There was less than 10 ladies in the fishbowl. I noticed #14 whom I had tried a couple of months earlier. I decided to play safe and took her as I remembered she was very pleasant last time (I was with her a couple of months back). Annie's standard package is 1500THB for 2 hours with 1 lady. We went to the room, got undressed and started with the bath. Very nice, she massaged me in the bath tub with her delicious tits and ass first. Then she continued with very professional and tender BBBJTC. What a relief after last nights frustrating moments... We showered and after drying I laid down on the bed. She started a full body oily massage. From head to the toes, back side first before moving to front. Very relaxing, I almost fell asleep. After the massage came another round of BBBJ, followed by covered FS (asian cowgirl). In the end she showered and cleaned me thoroughly. Great session, and I left the place with a happy smile on my face. I'll be back in Annie's certainly in the future as well.
2nd evening: I started with a complimentary drink in the hotel bar around 8pm and formed a new plan: i decided to skip the go-go bars and go to check out the Beer Garden first, and CM2 (the nightclub in the basement of Novotel Siam Square) later. I had never been in either of these places so something new was ahead. As I was pretty tired from last night's drinking and the earlier relaxing session in Annie's, i decided to buy some Indian-made Viagra copies from one of the drug stores near JW Marriot. 4 pills costed 380THB.
When I entered Beer Garden around 9-9:30pm there was lot of girls inside, lot of men also (but more girls I would say), most looking pretty bored and tired. Music was playing but not loud, sports on the screens. Most girls looked average or below but there were certainly a couple of nice ones also. I finished my beer and decided to move towards CM2/Novotel. On my way out I bumbed into an angel who had a real knock-out smile. I kept on walking as I wanted to see the CM2. But still at the Nana skytrain station I was hesitating and thinking of going back for that smile...
Finally, I jumped in the train, travelled to Siam and walked to Novotel Siam Square (check their website if you want to know the exact location). It was about 10:30pm when I arrived there. Had to pay an entrance fee of 350 THB (or was it 370?) that included one complimentary drink. It was still pretty quiet inside, but yes there seemed to be some ladies already. The place looked like a pretty decent nightclub to me, reminded me of Brix in my current hometown Singapore actually. As a small dissapointment I realised there would be no band playing tonight. Around 11pm there was already a lot more people, and many many gorgeous and hot FLs. Lot of eye candy I must say. One particularly caught my eye and after a few eye contacts and smiles she waived me to join her. Man she looked sooo hot. We chatted for a while, and agreed on LT for 2500THB. Now that the business discussion had been taken care of, we relaxed and had some fun and a couple of drinks before leaving. Drinks cost about 220-260THB for gin&tonic, mojito etc.
Later we took a taxi to the hotel (no hassle, meter on). Surprise: the security guard stopped us and asked the lady to leave her ID downstairs. It didn't really bother me, I mean, after all it's about security for both me and her.
In the room she was immeaditely all over me, undressed me and started BBBJ. After some good sucking we took a shower and got to the bed. Her body was just great. Perfect tits, fully shaven pussy, very firm and slim body. And she indeed knew what she was doing. DATY, more BBBJ, and finally she fucked me cowgirl style until the end (covered). I save you from all the details, but the sex could hardly get better than this. Afterwards she washed me, and gave a nice Thai massage without me even asking for it.
In the morning I woke up around 7am and realised that my little fellow was in her mouth again. Good morning, a bit early but WTF...so round 2 started with BBBJ and was as good as the first one. Once finished, she got dressed up, I paid her as agreed and she left. She left her phone number and this time i might actually call her the next time I am in town! It is just always so delighting to meet someone who is truly professional and committed in providing a quality service.
Overall, I must say I liked the CM2 experience a lot, and think I will try that again on my next visit. Somehow I prefer this type of a pick-up joint rather than the go-go bars, but it is of course just my personal preference. And the selection of the girls was great...
Anyway, enough of writing, time to move ahead for new adventures. Next time I try to make my report a bit shorter...
Good luck to all.
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Folks,
I can barely walk.
I'm just back from a 2 hours session in Nataree on Ratchadapisek (Huai Kwang). A dream.
I just picked up the right girl, beautiful. I chose her even though she did not make any eye contact through the window (I did not listen to one of our teacher in China as far as girl choice is concerned).
But she revealed to be a diamond. 23, beautiful, extremely nice, a little shy when I looked at her getting undressed.
She ask if I want massage, I say no, we start with sex and massage after if we have time.
We kissed, had great sex, then she blew me. I asked to take it all in her mouth, no problem, she listened.
When she had her mouth full of cum we were kidding, I asked her question and waited for an answer. She tried to talk with CIM. Then we laughed (unfortunately she had to swallow because of laugh! )
Then she massaged me, and I asked for another blow job.
She executed, came another time in her mouth. Then we chatted a few minutes and I went.
I asked if tomorrow she can sleep with me in my hotel, she said no problem.
I am dreaming
Total cost for 2 hours of sex + oil massage? . 2000 baht, I can't believe it.
I love Thailand. I almost want to marry her just to have her everyday
Well sorry folks, I'm just excited, just came back, I'll be better tomorrow. Night night
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Havent seen much info on this place.
How is this place and how are the girls compared to the Nana's girls?
Thanks for any info.
[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]Man this is a after hours spot . its get crowded around 2 AM and they close around 5 AM . I never seen a selection of so many young Georges white skin girls in one place before in Bangkok. Most don't speak English I would say %50 percent come with Thai boyfriends or escort. But the other %50 percent are available and wild and crazy.and they love to get drunk. I didn't even see one dark skin issan girl there . Maybe they are ashamed to go there because they are not in demand. its in Sukhumvit soi 20 in the lobby of the Hotel .[/QUOTE]
This is Hotel Windsor Suites ? I stayed there a few times a long time ago. Is there a cover charge ? Thanks for the update
400 baht including the first two drinks.
[QUOTE=Josses]Dear brothers,
I have been following this forum for years already and found the information provided by all of you extremely valuable. Therefore I finally decided that I should register and start trying to contribute as well. So, here comes my first post about my recent 2 day hunting trip in Bangkok.
I arrived to Bangkok airport Tuesday evening around 8pm and jumped into a taxi as fast as I could (I had a plan for the evening and I didn't want to miss any of the action...). The driver tried to agree to a fixed price of 400THB but I have been here often enough to tell him to put the meter on instead. No hassle, meter on, takes about 30min to get to my hotel Majestic Grande on Sukhumvit Soi 2, final cost less than 300THB including the highway tolls & airport service fee.
It's my first time in this hotel, so a few remarks:
- I paid 3600THB per night, a slightly bigger type of room, bfast included, taxes included.
- location is excellent: Annie's Massage literally 15 steps away from the hotel door (yes, I did count the steps) and Nana, Beergarden etc only a few minutes walk away.
- IMHO the hotel is not very Majestic or Grande (I mean it's not a very big hotel actually) but nicely maintained, good service.
- room was rather spacious, design not quite my taste but it has all you could need. And it's clean & tidy. The only downside was the smell that hit me when I opened the door for the first time. It came from the bathroom so better keep the bathroom door closed...and maybe call a plumber?
- excellent breakfast in my opinion
- pool looked small, but I never tested that nor the gym room (yeah I had my sports gear with me but surprisingly ended up doing the kind of physical exercises that are best implemented with no clothes on).
Anyway, as my intention is not to write a hotel review but more like a pussy review, let's cut the crap and continue.
After changing clothes and having a couple of beers from the minibar, I decided to start executing my plan. As I was pretty tired, my plan was to get a beer or two in some bar at Nana's ground floor, then head for one of the go-go bars in Nana, pick up a sweet little princess and head back to the hotel. I wanted to save my energy for the next evening and not party too hard on the first night. So I ended up to the first bar on the left hand side when entering to Nana and ordered a beer. I had been able to finish half of my first beer and was just thinking of settling the bill and getting ready for the next move when a very sweet looking lady comes to chat with me. She really had an angel's face and I couldn't get my eyes off her. She spoke pretty good english so we chatted for a while. She was 32 years, with slim body, small boobs from what I could tell through her outfit (just the way I like it, I am not so crazy about huge tits, probably because my wife has big ones...). I started to slip from my plan. I offered to buy her a beer, and she accepted willingly (can you imagine?). She worked for the bar and told I can barfine her with 600THB. I was hesitating and ordered another beer and one more for her as well. And another one...and another after the other and so on. So there goes the plan and I was getting drunk. The girl was getting drunk as well and it started to be quite impossible to understand if she was speaking English or Thai to me. Either way, I didn't understand half of the stuff. She kept on repeating that she is not a BS speaking girl, which immediately rang an alarm bell somewhere in my brains but I was drunk enough to ignore it. Perfectly against my plan, and against my instincts I decided to barfine her and go back to the hotel. I told her I wanted LT, and she agreed. The bill at the bar was something like 1700THB including the barfine so I guess we had ordered about 10 beers. On the way to hotel she insisted to have one more beer in another bar. Finally we got to the hotel, no hassle from security guards or any other staff.
In the room she wanted another beer, thats all I understood from her talking at this point. Finally we got to the business, or so I thought when she undressed. She wanted to take showers separately, no bath even though I asked for it. So after cleaning up we ended up to bed. Her body was great, nicely shaven pussy, really firm boobs, just excellent, and I was horny as hell. We started to kiss, followed by about 5 seconds of DATY, when she pulled me up and said she wants to fuck. Ok so no BJ yet, but I was horny so whatever. I put on condom and she guided me inside, me on top. She's pretty tight but I was doing all the work and she's like a dead fucking fish. I was getting frustrated and just didn't feel like coming. I stopped and told her that I was not happy for her services. She mumbled her apologies and something else I don't understand. Then she asked can she go now. Hell yeah, please go and let me sleep at least peacefully. I sent her out, and didn't pay anything for the nothing I got. The best part was that she gave her phone number and asked me to call next day. Well, that wasn't quite what I was expecting, but an experience anyway. I can only blaime my self of course, and a bit of bad luck as well. Luckily I had another day & night left.
In the morning I woke up with moderate hangover around 9am. I was still horny and frustrated about last night's episode so after breakfast I took the 15 steps to Annie's. Can you imagine a better way to start the day and heal your hangover than with a nice soapy massage? Annie's opens at 10am, and when I got there it was 10:30. So I took the stairs to the 2nd floor where I was greeted by the mamasan. There was less than 10 ladies in the fishbowl. I noticed #14 whom I had tried a couple of months earlier. I decided to play safe and took her as I remembered she was very pleasant last time (I was with her a couple of months back). Annie's standard package is 1500THB for 2 hours with 1 lady. We went to the room, got undressed and started with the bath. Very nice, she massaged me in the bath tub with her delicious tits and ass first. Then she continued with very professional and tender BBBJTC. What a relief after last nights frustrating moments... We showered and after drying I laid down on the bed. She started a full body oily massage. From head to the toes, back side first before moving to front. Very relaxing, I almost fell asleep. After the massage came another round of BBBJ, followed by covered FS (asian cowgirl). In the end she showered and cleaned me thoroughly. Great session, and I left the place with a happy smile on my face. I'll be back in Annie's certainly in the future as well.
2nd evening: I started with a complimentary drink in the hotel bar around 8pm and formed a new plan: i decided to skip the go-go bars and go to check out the Beer Garden first, and CM2 (the nightclub in the basement of Novotel Siam Square) later. I had never been in either of these places so something new was ahead. As I was pretty tired from last night's drinking and the earlier relaxing session in Annie's, i decided to buy some Indian-made Viagra copies from one of the drug stores near JW Marriot. 4 pills costed 380THB.
When I entered Beer Garden around 9-9:30pm there was lot of girls inside, lot of men also (but more girls I would say), most looking pretty bored and tired. Music was playing but not loud, sports on the screens. Most girls looked average or below but there were certainly a couple of nice ones also. I finished my beer and decided to move towards CM2/Novotel. On my way out I bumbed into an angel who had a real knock-out smile. I kept on walking as I wanted to see the CM2. But still at the Nana skytrain station I was hesitating and thinking of going back for that smile...
Finally, I jumped in the train, travelled to Siam and walked to Novotel Siam Square (check their website if you want to know the exact location). It was about 10:30pm when I arrived there. Had to pay an entrance fee of 350 THB (or was it 370?) that included one complimentary drink. It was still pretty quiet inside, but yes there seemed to be some ladies already. The place looked like a pretty decent nightclub to me, reminded me of Brix in my current hometown Singapore actually. As a small dissapointment I realised there would be no band playing tonight. Around 11pm there was already a lot more people, and many many gorgeous and hot FLs. Lot of eye candy I must say. One particularly caught my eye and after a few eye contacts and smiles she waived me to join her. Man she looked sooo hot. We chatted for a while, and agreed on LT for 2500THB. Now that the business discussion had been taken care of, we relaxed and had some fun and a couple of drinks before leaving. Drinks cost about 220-260THB for gin&tonic, mojito etc.
Later we took a taxi to the hotel (no hassle, meter on). Surprise: the security guard stopped us and asked the lady to leave her ID downstairs. It didn't really bother me, I mean, after all it's about security for both me and her.
In the room she was immeaditely all over me, undressed me and started BBBJ. After some good sucking we took a shower and got to the bed. Her body was just great. Perfect tits, fully shaven pussy, very firm and slim body. And she indeed knew what she was doing. DATY, more BBBJ, and finally she fucked me cowgirl style until the end (covered). I save you from all the details, but the sex could hardly get better than this. Afterwards she washed me, and gave a nice Thai massage without me even asking for it.
In the morning I woke up around 7am and realised that my little fellow was in her mouth again. Good morning, a bit early but WTF...so round 2 started with BBBJ and was as good as the first one. Once finished, she got dressed up, I paid her as agreed and she left. She left her phone number and this time i might actually call her the next time I am in town! It is just always so delighting to meet someone who is truly professional and committed in providing a quality service.
Overall, I must say I liked the CM2 experience a lot, and think I will try that again on my next visit. Somehow I prefer this type of a pick-up joint rather than the go-go bars, but it is of course just my personal preference. And the selection of the girls was great...
Anyway, enough of writing, time to move ahead for new adventures. Next time I try to make my report a bit shorter...
Good luck to all.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Great post dude,
As a matter of fact I'd like to try the one waking up getting dick in mouth, in Novotel. Any number or any specific so that I can identify her and try?
I used to stay at the Windsor about 5 years ago, and they were very much NOT girl friendly. I hope that has changed, otherwise taking a girl up from this disco could be problematic.
Josses,
Great report, Thanks! I hope you continue writing your experiences
[QUOTE=Noclew]Havent seen much info on this place.
How is this place and how are the girls compared to the Nana's girls?
Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]
Not much to say, really. It was a G-Club setup, with hostesses. For a while, they had a few lookers, then it went down hill and the quality of the girls dropped. The last time I stuck my head in was about a year ago and it was dead. It was about 10pm and there were two or three girls and no customers. There were reports that they were closed periodically for no reason and last I heard, they have shut down for good (end of last year?). Could just be a rumour though.
That's about all I know.
AT2
[QUOTE]She kept on repeating that she is not a BS speaking girl, which immediately rang an alarm bell somewhere in my brains but I was drunk enough to ignore it. Perfectly against my plan, and against my instincts I decided to barfine her and go back to the hotel.[/QUOTE]
Yes a girl who talks too much would ring alarm bells with me too. Girls who say they are honest or no-BS usually should be suspected.
A normal girl won't mention it.
But what a perfect alarm clock to wake you up (BJ starting). I mean its hard already and just begging to be sucked. That must be the perfect girl!
[QUOTE=Noclew]Havent seen much info on this place.
How is this place and how are the girls compared to the Nana's girls?
Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]
The last two times (at night) I passed the Champagne Room they were closed. To me it was an over-priced club offering the same type girls available elsewhere but they were dressed more lady-like.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]The last two times (at night) I passed the Champagne Room they were closed. To me it was an over-priced club offering the same type girls available elsewhere but they were dressed more lady-like.[/QUOTE]
Been closed for a long time. Before the Champagne Room it was a "no hands" restaurant. That didn't last long either.
[QUOTE=Wendella]Sorry, when you say 'jelly' does that mean gel tablets? In the US, jelly is about the same as what Brits call jam. I understand 'jelly' in Britain means what Americans call Jello. I'm guessing Kamagra comes in neither of these forms. You said it comes in a 'roll of jelly' which sounds like it might be something like fruit rollups? Then of course there's petroleum jelly -- but in a form like that would be strange to eat or whatever you'd do with it.
Just curious[/QUOTE]Jelly is about as close a term as it gets. It has the consistency of Vasoline (petroleum jellly). Does work in 20min, the taste isn't too bad, comes in Orange, Pineapple, Vanilla, Mint.
Whoever took this photo, please PM me, need to tell you something.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]Jelly is about as close a term as it gets. It has the consistency of Vasoline (petroleum jellly). Does work in 20min, the taste isn't too bad, comes in Orange, Pineapple, Vanilla, Mint.[/QUOTE]How much do you pay for this in BKK?
(Next week I'll be in Mumbai so that I can compare the prices...)
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]Jelly is about as close a term as it gets. It has the consistency of Vasoline (petroleum jellly). Does work in 20min, the taste isn't too bad, comes in Orange, Pineapple, Vanilla, Mint.[/QUOTE]I tried a sachet of this recently, but it didn't work for me. Just my usual throbber without the extra bit of throb I wanted. :( Then again, I bought it in BKK two years ago, so maybe it was past the used-by date. BTW - yes it's a gel, but powdery inside the gel.[QUOTE=Speaker5]LOOKING FOR WHO POSTED THIS PICTURE, IMPORTANT!
Whoever took this photo, please PM me, need to tell you something.[/QUOTE]What a bizarre post. What's so important that you want to say? - Kamagra Jelly comes in yet another flavor?
(PS - I'll let you in a secret Einstein. The guy who posted the photo was Lord Farquard. Don't tell anyone, okay?)
[QUOTE=Piper1]What a bizarre post. What do you want to say? - Kamagra Jelly comes in yet another flavor? (PS - I'll let you in a secret, Einstein: The guy who posted the photo was Lord Fardquar. Don't tell anyone, okay?)[/QUOTE]
I dunno Piper1, I was wondering what friggin photo he was talking about too. As a regular member his posts wouldn't show up right away. So I assumed he was talking about some past photo but who knows. And I wonder how he's gonna get PM if he his a 3 post regular member and if he didn't pay his subscription fee?
Tansak, he night have seen that jelly pic, and his post was in reference to that. Even though his post doesn't appear right away, I think it still gets posted in the order it was written, with the time and date stamp that he wrote the post.
How can you tell if a regular member has paid or not?
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]Jelly is about as close a term as it gets. It has the consistency of Vasoline (petroleum jellly). Does work in 20min, the taste isn't too bad, comes in Orange, Pineapple, Vanilla, Mint.[/QUOTE]
I can get the tablet form, (which works well for me in about an hour), for about 75 baht each in small quanities.
What is the cost of the jelly product in comparison?
[QUOTE=Daddy07]I can get the tablet form, (which works well for me in about an hour), for about 75 baht each in small quanities.
What is the cost of the jelly product in comparison?[/QUOTE]
pretty much the same if you buy 6 or more at a time, depends on the place.
[QUOTE=Easy2007]
A big pussy gives the game away she is taking a fair amount meat inside her. And that can break the fantasy a bit. For those that like the illusion of a tighter pussy.
I have had big and small girls with tight pussies, but more often than not its the smaller girls who get very stretched open and have big pussies, not really a trait of larger girls.
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No-no you are suffering from psychological mis-conceptions here.
While I agree that girls shrink if no sex for a long time (my GF is too small on the first couple of times), it expands back after just a few sessions.
Girls vary considerably naturally in length and width of pussy. And just like small guys might have big dicks, the same can happen with girls.
I know of girls who fuck heaps but whose pussy is still too short to suit me. I don't get the same felling if it only goes part way in. I am always watchful for sponge stuffed pussy and insist it be removed. Otherwise very little gets in there.
So while most guys don't like extremely wide/loose pussy, I prefer a long pussy that can take the dick all the way in.
I don't go for exceptionally tight pussy either so in that sense I am unusual. I prefer a softer more subtle feel to sex. I understand that guys who like arse fucking would problem want very tight pussy.
I do recall one very nice soapy girl that I gave up purely because she was just far too loose to feel good (cavenous).
In the end, size of pussy is not a strong indicator of how much sex a girl is getting. Most P4P girls are getting a lot of sex regardless (unless they are ugly). So just go for the pussy that feels nice and don't worry about how much sex she is getting. Very experienced girls are better at sex, no?
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I dunno Piper1, I was wondering what friggin photo he was talking about too. As a regular member his posts wouldn't show up right away. So I assumed he was talking about some past photo but who knows. And I wonder how he's gonna get PM if he his a 3 post regular member and if he didn't pay his subscription fee?[/QUOTE]
I agree. When there is no included quote or meanigful title, its tough to be sure what a newbie is referring to though he has posted a pic himself earlier.
Sorry guys, one of my dillusional moments and a worthless post. But I did pay my subscription. I am not trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] anyone off here, just a newbie to this site, but I will contribute on a regular basis going forward.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker] I am always watchful for sponge stuffed pussy and insist it be removed. ?[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? I have never heard of this before.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker] Very experienced girls are better at sex, no?[/QUOTE]
You probably don't want to drop your shorts, have a girl look at you cock and ask what she is supposed to do with it. You want one who know...
[QUOTE=Speaker5]Whoever took this photo, please PM me, need to tell you something.[/QUOTE]
Tell us, and we will tell him.
I feel a bit stupid. I always thought Kamagra jelly was a topical ointment, that you rub onto your penis...........
:confused: :o
[QUOTE=1Ball]I feel a bit stupid. I always thought Kamagra jelly was a topical ointment, that you rub onto your penis...........
:confused: :o[/QUOTE]
No! No! No! You spread it on a peanut butter sandwich first.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]What are you talking about? I have never heard of this before.
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I am sure a search would reveal something but I'm not sure which thread.
Anyway if you were getting as much mongering done as me, you would have run into a sponge some time.
If my dick wouldn't go in very far due to an obstruction, then I put my fingers in to find out why. There I found a sponge. This has happened to me several times now and including western girls too.
The obvious thing is that the girl has been having a period and its virtually finished, or just about to start and they are trying to stop any bleed discolouration coming out.
However some girls claimed it was not near there period. So why then? They claimed it was extra protection in case the condom broke. "But don't you take the pill?" The young Thai girls said that they did not take the pill, because they could not be found out by family to be obviously playing up or having sex. This did not really make any sense to me.
I don't see the difference between the pill and condoms as far as protection against pregnancy goes or suspicion. Perhaps they imagined the foam was extra protection against AIDs but I doubt it.
Maybe they protect against pregnancy with boyfriend using this silly sponge.
Anyway it turns out that a sponge is actually far more dangerous as friction on the condom can cause it break far more easily than usual. One broke on me this way with a hot Romanian girl maybe 5 years ago.
Usually girls deny that there is anything inside them. But its no use, I can easily touch it. Mostly they will remove it if asked to, even if they deny that it is there. I have seen a removed sponge on at least 2 occasions. When out it is not compressed. Its usually not more than 5 cm across expanded.
I need it removed, to avoid condom breakage and to allow penis to be inserted more than just 3-4 inches. Otherwise I simply cannot fuck them (usually).
Maybe some doctor can comment about the real or imagined purpose of the sponge if not to hide a period starting/ending.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]
Anyway if you were getting as much mongering done as me, you would have run into a sponge some time.
Maybe some doctor can comment about the real or imagined purpose of the sponge if not to hide a period starting/ending.[/QUOTE]
I've had my share of women, but I have never run into this before. Are you talking about a sponge like you would wash your car, or a Tampon. A cotton plug insert commly used in the West to absorb menstral blood?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I've had my share of women, but I have never run into this before. Are you talking about a sponge like you would wash your car, or a Tampon. A cotton plug insert commly used in the West to absorb menstral blood?[/QUOTE]
Well a little like you would use to wash your car but far smaller. It is spongey like a sponge so it is really a sponge. Definitely nothing like a tampon.
I once went to a tabletop dancing place in Australia and saw a tampon thread hanging out. Disgusting. :eek:
There is a spermicidal sponge that girls use, this may by what she had.
I usually get Cialis from either the pharmacy between the gas station and Bully's or the walk up right across from Nana. I prefer Cialis as my old heart can't take the rush Viagra gives. Plus I get the extra couple of days with Cialis in terms of effect that Viagra doesn't give.
There are three types of vaginal sponges: contraceptive; medicinal; and menstrual. Women have used natural sea sponges for centuries for all three purposes.
The contraceptive sponge is a manufactured item that is saturated with a spermicide. It acts as a mchanical barrier for sperm. It is used by women who engage in sex infrequently and don't want to (or can't) use hormonal birth control. The medicinal sponge works on the same principle, but is used to deliver topical medicine against yeast infections and similar conditions.
The menstrual sponge is an alternative to tampons. It has often been used in the past by providers of sexual services because it is possible to have intercourse with a sponge inside the vagina (not possible with a tampon). Porn models and nude dancers also use it as is far less visible than a tampon.
However, the use of birth control shots which drastically reduce the frequency with which women have periods, the development of menstrual cups and the resurgence in popularity of diaphragms has reduced the use of sponges.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]There are three types of vaginal sponges: contraceptive; medicinal; and menstrual. Women have used natural sea sponges for centuries for all three purposes.
The contraceptive sponge is a manufactured item that is saturated with a spermicide. It acts as a mchanical barrier for sperm. It is used by women who engage in sex infrequently and don't want to (or can't) use hormonal birth control. The medicinal sponge works on the same principle, but is used to deliver topical medicine against yeast infections and similar conditions.
The menstrual sponge is an alternative to tampons. It has often been used in the past by providers of sexual services because it is possible to have intercourse with a sponge inside the vagina (not possible with a tampon). Porn models and nude dancers also use it as is far less visible than a tampon.
However, the use of birth control shots which drastically reduce the frequency with which women have periods, the development of menstrual cups and the resurgence in popularity of diaphragms has reduced the use of sponges.
Evil[/QUOTE]
How about that, you learn something new every day.
Sixty Cent,
What was the name and number of your friend at Nataree?
Canyon
[QUOTE=Speaker5]Sorry guys, one of my dillusional moments and a worthless post. But I did pay my subscription. I am not trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] anyone off here, just a newbie to this site, but I will contribute on a regular basis going forward.[/QUOTE]
Just click on the quote button at the bottom right hand corner of the post you want to respond to, and it will make the posts much clearer. If the post is long, I usually delete most of it and leave just the part I am referring to, and include the <cut> or <snip> comments as a courtesy (So others know it's an edited quote, which could be out of context).
AT2
my latest adventure in los covered the following:
the first night started at club rao, located 5 mins drive away from huey kwang. this apparently is a chain of clubs with the same name. girls are relatively young around 19-24 with a large selection as we arrived at 1030pm. drinks were reasonable and it will be helpful if you have a thai speaking friend. the charges are reasonable as you pay thb2100 for their company with you from 1030pm onwards and drink/dance and chat session until bar closing and then home/hotel for one shot. if she likes you then she will stay until morning. the choices of girls are probably 10 to 1 before 1030pm and then from 1130pm onwards it will be around 5 to 1. most of them very decent looking and some lookers with good push-up bras. the mamasan is very friendly.
the next day started at happy hour where we drop by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for the kick-start blow job where fs is also offered for thb1100 and a tip for the girls. the girl i had was very friendly and the tit-fuck session really heated me up and then i suggested for fs where she ran to get a condom and then returning for more bbbj and then proceeding to a sofa fs and the stand-up session before removing the condom for a bbbjtcim.
we then moved on to tulip for a follow-up session where i picked tuktha (i think thats the name), slightly older at 30 or older but great natural tits with great service including constant fuck and suck sessions. i requested for minimum 2 sessions and she said as many as time permitted. the great attitude was that she persisted to finish until the very last minute with her constant sucking, groping including to continue to provoke john thomas for more sessions. she also liked daty and we both came at the same time twice. the 3rd was not successful as i was feeling sore and felt the legs were giving way. showered and could not walk straight to the bts station and fely wobbly.
proceeded to soi cowboy and started at long gun and had the drunk mamasan veing slightly too friendly. had a few tequilla shots with the girls and dancers. proceeded to baccara and suzie wong before finishing the night going home alone as felt it was sufficient with tulip and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
the next night we went to hawaii/love boat is rama 9, which is accesible only by car/taxi, i think. the choices were wonderful and single or double with two level of girls in the entrance lounge and then in the preceeding room with younger girls which cost thb4500. (slightly pricier but made up with the pretty young college girl looks and very accomodating, not your super great fuck sessions but more of "i am able to fuck those college looking pretty girls session for a price". my thai friends likes this type better as they tell me that the quality is better. i am not convinced as i found out from my thai girlfriend that she has a college friend that works part time at poseidon at the model range and she commands thb4500 too. she is one pretty lass as i went dancing with them at bar-yan (behind esplanade) and she has a killer looks with a cfm face. she is no longer in the market as she has a jap paying her thb50k a month. i heard she still freelances sometimes. though i am not risking it (as i really fancied her) as my thai girlfriend and in agreement with most of you guys that whilst they say they do not mind, their heart cant take it and it is also an ego thing as they all talk amongst themselves.
more to come soon.
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proceeded to soi cowboy and started at long gun and had the drunk mamasan veing slightly too friendly. had a few tequilla shots with the girls and dancers. proceeded to baccara and suzie wong before finishing the night going home alone as felt it was sufficient with tulip and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
the next night we went to hawaii/love boat is rama 9, which is accesible only by car/taxi, i think. the choices were wonderful and single or double with two level of girls in the entrance lounge and then in the preceeding room with younger girls which cost thb4500. <cut>[/quote]
i agree that long gun mamasan/boss goes crazy when drunk.
suzi wong mamasan is away getting a leg operation so has been missing for a while.
the soapy you refer to is "long beach" formerly called "honolulu love boat" i think. right near the raddison and generally good value as i don't go to those higher price brackets when i can generally get a good girl for way less in the "gold star" mid priced section.
can take a taxi to the raddison or i have used mrt to rama 9 and then walked from there < 10 mins.
Thanks Mick,
You are right with the observations and correct name of the place, must be the alcohol in my blood stream and also causing my typing to go slightly haywired.
I tried a girl at Suzie Wong called "nan" and she is super friendly with pear like tits and really one of those "suckable" lip friendly type. The quality at Suzie Wong varies, I guess due to the timing of one's visit and how many has been barfined.
I heard that next week there will be 25000 Lion Club members converging into Bangkok for their annual global meet and they will be marching between Rama IV and and Ratchadamri between 4pm to 8pm next Tuesday. Not sure if this is true, though unlikely as the traffic will go crazy as it is peak hours and I doubt the police will allow it.
I am guessing next week will have the clubs packed with "Lions", good for the economy.
FD
[QUOTE=Fun Dog]
I tried a girl at Suzie Wong called "nan" and she is super friendly with pear like tits and really one of those "suckable" lip friendly type. The quality at Suzie Wong varies, I guess due to the timing of one's visit and how many has been barfined.
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Yes only a small number of Suzie Wong girls could be called moderately pretty and some may to be too slim to suit some tastes.
I am more lenient on the prettiness factor when looking for really wayward girls but I still have some standards that should be met. I won't choose fat girls or fat noses.
I would say that 3 or 4 of them are pretty enough in the face for me. I forget which one is Nan at the moment.
Miss B has incredible waist to thigh ratio (around 0.6) and pretty pussy and very nice "gap" (between the thighs) and cute face, so small tits doesn't matter to me. She is therfore very doable. She has light skin suprisingly.
Shaved pussy helps those with pretty pussy to show it off properly and has the reverse effect for ugly pussy. :D
What follows might be of use to a prospective first time punter.
My first visit to BKK since 2004, nothing much has changed of course, the place still stinks, the paving is still awful and that tramp is still pulling himself along Suk road.
Prices seemed to be pretty much the same, a couple of the girls said no to LT which I don’t remember happening before. I only ever asked for LT after 23. 00 and 4K or 3k was the asking price dropped to 3 or 2 respectively. No idea if that’s par or not. Hotel: I stayed at the Majestic Suites, on the advice of other BM’s posts. Good little GF hotel, rooms are small, but that didn’t bother me in the least. It’s a bit of a pain to get to by taxi, but it’s very convenient for NEP and only about a 10-15 minute walk to Cowboy. I would stay there again.
Nana: Playschool and Rainbow 1 on the ground floor both had pretty lasses. The birds in the beer bars aren’t too pretty but more fun (I forgot how boring, how old you? Where you come from? What your name? Etc is. After 5 minutes, I started to make shit up just to stop myself going mad. How do you long-term mongers get round it? ). 1st floor G-spot good and the other Rainbow bars were good. I couldn’t see as many Japs as I’d been expecting.
Soi Cowboy: preferred it here to Nana. Baccara, Suzi Wong, Black & White, and Tilac bar were all good. All the shows however, bored me.
Missed out on a sentimental return to Patpong this time. Next time.
Cheers
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Here's a question for you old mongers....been out of the scene for awhile, pretty busy with a full time GF...i used to frequent the Siam Hotel, on Petchaburi, which was mainly visited by Thai and Asian guys...a nice change of pace from the Sukhumvit scene...in addition to the inside cafe, there used to be 100's of gals in the lane in the street out back....some months ago, the Siam Hotel was destroyed, either for some new condos to be built on the site, or due to the new Airport link train being put up...at any rate, I've been wondering, what ever happened to all the girls there, and where do all the locals go now that it is gone? Any answers?
[QUOTE=Oldian]Here's a question for you old mongers....been out of the scene for awhile, pretty busy with a full time GF...i used to frequent the Siam Hotel, on Petchaburi, which was mainly visited by Thai and Asian guys...a nice change of pace from the Sukhumvit scene...in addition to the inside cafe, there used to be 100's of gals in the lane in the street out back....some months ago, the Siam Hotel was destroyed, either for some new condos to be built on the site, or due to the new Airport link train being put up...at any rate, I've been wondering, what ever happened to all the girls there, and where do all the locals go now that it is gone? Any answers?[/QUOTE]
Although there are not as many girls as before, check the street on the backside of the hotel. There are still a bunch lined up there. Yes, I remember the days where there were so many lined up side by side and also in the coffee shop. I don't really think any one place has replaced the Siam Coffee shop.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I am sure a search would reveal something but I'm not sure which thread.
Anyway if you were getting as much mongering done as me, you would have run into a sponge some time.
If my dick wouldn't go in very far due to an obstruction, then I put my fingers in to find out why. There I found a sponge. This has happened to me several times now and including western girls too.
The obvious thing is that the girl has been having a period and its virtually finished, or just about to start and they are trying to stop any bleed discolouration coming out.
However some girls claimed it was not near there period. So why then? They claimed it was extra protection in case the condom broke. "But don't you take the pill?" The young Thai girls said that they did not take the pill, because they could not be found out by family to be obviously playing up or having sex. This did not really make any sense to me.
I don't see the difference between the pill and condoms as far as protection against pregnancy goes or suspicion. Perhaps they imagined the foam was extra protection against AIDs but I doubt it.
Maybe they protect against pregnancy with boyfriend using this silly sponge.
Anyway it turns out that a sponge is actually far more dangerous as friction on the condom can cause it break far more easily than usual. One broke on me this way with a hot Romanian girl maybe 5 years ago.
Usually girls deny that there is anything inside them. But its no use, I can easily touch it. Mostly they will remove it if asked to, even if they deny that it is there. I have seen a removed sponge on at least 2 occasions. When out it is not compressed. Its usually not more than 5 cm across expanded.
I need it removed, to avoid condom breakage and to allow penis to be inserted more than just 3-4 inches. Otherwise I simply cannot fuck them (usually).
Maybe some doctor can comment about the real or imagined purpose of the sponge if not to hide a period starting/ending.[/QUOTE]
I am no medical doctor, but sponge IS a birth control method (contraceptive sponge; [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraceptive_sponge[/url]). Not sure if it is still available in Thailand; it is not in the US.
[QUOTE=Oldian]Here's a question for you old mongers....been out of the scene for awhile, pretty busy with a full time GF...i used to frequent the Siam Hotel, on Petchaburi, which was mainly visited by Thai and Asian guys...a nice change of pace from the Sukhumvit scene...in addition to the inside cafe, there used to be 100's of gals in the lane in the street out back....some months ago, the Siam Hotel was destroyed, either for some new condos to be built on the site, or due to the new Airport link train being put up...at any rate, I've been wondering, what ever happened to all the girls there, and where do all the locals go now that it is gone? Any answers?[/QUOTE]
Along those lines, has anyone ventured out to the Saphan Kwai bars recently? Any improvements or developments in that area? By the lack of posts, my guess is no, but just thought I would ask.
AT2
[QUOTE=Horntoad]Although there are not as many girls as before, check the street on the backside of the hotel. There are still a bunch lined up there. [/QUOTE]
I have seen the same from my taxi passing by. Still a few girls on Kamphaeng Phet 7 road (at the back near the railway) but not nearly as many as used to be.
I am still expecting Mona Lisa to open again perhaps late in the year.
[QUOTE=Felly] Hotel: I stayed at the Majestic Suites, on the advice of other BM’s posts. Good little GF hotel, rooms are small, but that didn’t bother me in the least. It’s a bit of a pain to get to by taxi, but it’s very convenient for NEP and only about a 10-15 minute walk to Cowboy. I would stay there again.
[/QUOTE]
A little tip for anyone staying at Majestic Suites for the first time.
It is almost impossible to stop outside the hotel so ask the taxi driver for the Nana Hotel then walk back to the main road and turn right. It is less than a one minute walk.
[QUOTE=Crypton]I am no medical doctor, but sponge IS a birth control method (contraceptive sponge; [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraceptive_sponge[/url]). Not sure if it is still available in Thailand; it is not in the US.[/QUOTE]
Yes although its not very effective contraception, it could be a very cheap backup in case the condom broken or sabotaged. i.e. cheaper than the pill perhaps.
But since it doesn't protect against HIV and it can cause the condom to break, it seems a stupid measure to me.
I'm not sure if Thai girls were using a properly manufactured one or a home made attempted copy. I seem to remember seeing one had somewhat irregular shape and slightly greenish colour.
Another possibility is that some of these girls may have been willing to go bareback but didn't want totally guaranteed pregnancy.
Anyway I still think hiding potential monthly period remants was the main purpose. Girls tells lies about these topics as admitting the truth is not an option.
[QUOTE=Felly]<cut>
Missed out on a sentimental return to Patpong this time. Next time.
Cheers
[/QUOTE]
I did check it out a few weeks ago. Not much has changed. Aggressive touts that were so hard to get rid of, lot's of vendors and gawkers. I did check out the various bars and there was some talent, but not a lot. Electric Blue had the best selection, the night that I did my fly by. Number 9 and 30, were attractive, although number 9 was showing some evidence of giving birth recently. Very cute, though. I liked number 19, since she appeared to be mixed race and a nice change of pace. Cute, pettite and nice. Her name was Tan and we had a good time.
Looks like they had about a dozen girls (probably two rotations), with 6 on stage at a time. The Strip was dead that night, so that was a disappointment, after hearing there might be some potential there. I was actually quite impressed by a few of the girls hanging out in front of the Thaniya bars, trying to get customers in. There were dozens in front of each bar on the ground level.
I don't think you missed much, but it's good to check it out from time to time.
Peace,
AT2
I was flipping channels on the tele and came across a news bulletin that there was some sort of a protest in Thailand (Bangkok?). I would like to ask the locals if this has any effect on the monger scene?
Thanks
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2] I was actually quite impressed by a few of the girls hanging out in front of the Thaniya bars, trying to get customers in. There were dozens in front of each bar on the ground level.
I don't think you missed much, but it's good to check it out from time to time.
Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]AT2,
Any luck bf'ing the barker girls out front on Thaniya?
Did you need to speak Japanese? If you were able to bf, 2k st, 3k baht lt?
Hp
No effect at all.
The Democrats have now lost 4 elections in a row, and simply do not like it. They therefore, along with their "high level sponsers" want another election to see if they can be "5th time lucky" and win.
Therefore, a bunch of inbreds called the PAD are acting illegally in blocking public access to roads. They are breaking many laws, but they want to incite violence, so the police are giving them the softly softly treatment.
The inbreds are hoping for another coup, trying to push to allow the military a reason to have coup, however the military will not want one, as it makes them look bad to have too many too often, and also they got spanked in the referendum and also the later election.
So, whilst its hilarious to watch the inbreds have their protest and see how Samak plays with them, do not worry, the mongering goes on, and all is well.
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13]I was flipping channels on the tele and came across a news bulletin that there was some sort of a protest in Thailand (Bangkok?). I would like to ask the locals if this has any effect on the monger scene?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]I did check it out a few weeks ago. Not much has changed. Aggressive touts that were so hard to get rid of, lot's of vendors and gawkers. I did check out the various bars and there was some talent, but not a lot. Electric Blue had the best selection, the night that I did my fly by. Number 9 and 30, were attractive, although number 9 was showing some evidence of giving birth recently. Very cute, though. I liked number 19, since she appeared to be mixed race and a nice change of pace. Cute, pettite and nice. Her name was Tan and we had a good time.
Looks like they had about a dozen girls (probably two rotations), with 6 on stage at a time. The Strip was dead that night, so that was a disappointment, after hearing there might be some potential there. I was actually quite impressed by a few of the girls hanging out in front of the Thaniya bars, trying to get customers in. There were dozens in front of each bar on the ground level.
I don't think you missed much, but it's good to check it out from time to time.
Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, mate. I know Patpong isn't thought of too highly on here but it's still the ne plus ultra in my jaded memory at least.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]A little tip for anyone staying at Majestic Suites for the first time.
It is almost impossible to stop outside the hotel so ask the taxi driver for the Nana Hotel then walk back to the main road and turn right. It is less than a one minute walk.[/QUOTE]True, although most taxi drivers know how to take the soi (6, I think) behind the Majestic which comes out just north of the majestic. No streets to cross this way, just a VERY short walk back Sukhumvit, past 2-3 buildings.
Anyone else noticed the black African FL girls who have recently appeared on Sukhumvit, around 12.00pm, between Sois 3 and 5 where a lot of Thai FL hang out?
Can't be good for business, and scary for punters if they're associated with the guys in Soi Africa.
The girls approach you saying sex with a negress is the best you'll ever have. I may believe them, but they gotta be dangerous territory. ie FL and non Thai.
Be lucky.
[QUOTE=Easy2007]No effect at all.
.........................
Therefore, a bunch of inbreds called the PAD...........
The inbreds are hoping for another coup, ....................
So, whilst its hilarious to watch the inbreds have their protest ........[/QUOTE]
I guess it takes one to know one. Attitudes and comments like these does not reflect well on the mongers who respect the country they visit and the people they meet.
[QUOTE=Sosoi]
Can't be good for business, and scary for punters if they're associated with the guys in Soi Africa.
[/QUOTE]
I don't think many of us would know which Soi you consider to be "Soi Africa". I am aware of "Soi Gatoey" in Patpong and could probably imagine what "Soi Middle East" might be.
don't they call the soi where Grace is located "Soi Arab"?
And actually, in Pattaya there is soi 17(?) that is known locally as "Soi Arab"
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I don't think many of us would know which Soi you consider to be "Soi Africa". I am aware of "Soi Gatoey" in Patpong and could probably imagine what "Soi Middle East" might be.[/QUOTE]
Usually know as a little sub soi off Suk Soi 3 close to the Bamboo Bar.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Usually know as a little sub soi off Suk Soi 3 close to the Bamboo Bar.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, but not an area I frequent.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Thanks, but not an area I frequent.[/QUOTE]
Same here. I learned something today, Soi Africa/Soi Arab.
A number of small sois that run off Sukhumvit 3 perpendicular to Sukhumvit 3/1. It's the area that has several primarily Egyptian restaurants and a couple of Eritrean/Ethiopean restaurants, as well as some reasonable hotels and some slightly unsavory flop houses, as well. There are also lots of Arab/Afican merchants and import/export places.
I often go there for a change of atmosphere, as well as a change of diet. There's some really good Middle Eastern food and you can smoke sheeshah afterwards.
[QUOTE=Hp Xt]AT2,
Any luck bf'ing the barker girls out front on Thaniya?
Did you need to speak Japanese? If you were able to bf, 2k st, 3k baht lt?
Hp[/QUOTE]
Hp,
Did not try on this visit. Already had plans and just did a fly by. These bars are open to Farang in many instances, and it's just assumed that they are not. There's all kinds of charges and options and none are cheap. The barfines are 1k to 2k baht, like Soi 33 and 2k/3k ST/LT. There's bottle charges, girl charges, food charges, etc. About 2k baht for an hour, so w/takeout figure on minimum 5k baht and probably more.
If you want to try one out, just go and ask. It's slow for them and they are looking for any customers they can get. The ST/LT rates are also in line with the Soi 33 bars. Just remember that the girls are Thai, so many speak very little Japanese. English works fine, a mix of Japanese and english works fine, and of course Thai would work best. I really think the prices and perception are the deterent and not any real "no farang" policy. I hear that some of the bars have ST rooms available on the premises.
I know there are some clubs elsewhere in BKK, that do have a "Japanese Only" policy, but I don't think it's pervasive in Thaniya at this time. I could be wrong, but it sure did not appear to be an issue.
Peace,
AT2
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Thanks, but not an area I frequent.[/QUOTE]
Me either, but I had to go there once for work. I would never go there unless I absolutely had to.
[QUOTE=Canyon]Sixty Cent,
What was the name and number of your friend at Nataree?
Canyon[/QUOTE]I prefer not say the number as we have relationship.
Next week will spend a few days together :)
She's hot, sweet... and she's 22.
I have lived here in Thailand for over 20 years, and paid enough taxes direct and indirect, that I will have an opinion and freely voice it.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]I guess it takes one to know one. Attitudes and comments like these does not reflect well on the mongers who respect the country they visit and the people they meet.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Hp,
I know there are some clubs elsewhere in BKK, that do have a "Japanese Only" policy, but I don't think it's pervasive in Thaniya at this time. I could be wrong, but it sure did not appear to be an issue.
Peace,
AT2[quote]AT2,
Thanks for the info, good to know as my Nihongo is skoshi, although Pom phoot thai, thai kaochai.
Been to Soi 33, here are some picture in exchange for the info you provided.
Thanks,
HP
This might be crazy to ask, but there aren't Arabic girls available there are there? I do like them, but I don't know of anywhere where there are (good ones) available...
[QUOTE=Easy2007]I have lived here in Thailand for over 20 years, and paid enough taxes direct and indirect, that I will have an opinion and freely voice it.[/QUOTE]
Nobody is disputing your right to express an opinion; only that your opinion is slighly derrogatory and especially daft, in light of the fact that you continue to support Taksin and Samak, even though they are both increasingly embattled on all fronts, because of decidely unsavoury practices.
However, feel free to continue to make yourself look like a complete knob. That's what this forum is here for. :D
[QUOTE=Blunderer]This might be crazy to ask, but there aren't Arabic girls available there are there? I do like them, but I don't know of anywhere where there are (good ones) available...[/QUOTE]
Probably not. But, why come to Thailand if you want Arab girls? Why don't you go to an Arab country?
Maybe because they can't do it openly and freely as in Thailand.
LBM
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Probably not. But, why come to Thailand if you want Arab girls? Why don't you go to an Arab country?[/QUOTE]
Try the Grace Hotel Coffee Shop. I have sometimes some arab looking girls floating around. I guess, they could be half Thai and half arab.
Cheers
i just had about two days in bangkok a couple of weeks back, while i was returning from rayong after spending 5 days in there with my clients. while i used to visit pattaya every day, i was being chaperoned by my clients and nothing could i do with them around.
rushed to bangkok on the week before last. it was a saturday. i reached bangkok by around 11 am. checked into grace hotel. took a walk to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], had a chilled beer while the girl gave me a blow job. had lunch and then took a stroll towards annies massage parlour. picked up a girl from the fish bowl. had a good massage with a good blow job. and she wanted me to go for a fuck. could not take it up. finished the massage and came back to my room. on the way back, hit a pharmacy near soi 4 and picked up viagra. using it for the first time. i did not want to lose out on the fun.
after a short nap, around 6 pm, came down, and was taking a stroll, when i saw one of my college mates after over 20 years. went back to old memories and then he said, that there was swing party in one of the hotel suites in the out skirts. he wanted to check with the organisers whether i could join in. the organiser was a caucasian with a thai wife and was kind enough to agree and said the party starts around 8 pm.. i was delighted. popped in my viagra around 7 pm. and we took the toll road and he kept driving. it was a pretty long drive. reached there around 8 30 pm. the couples, single girls and single guys were just coming in. there was a korean single girl, a thai male and singaporean female couple, a caucasian and thai couple, another thai couple, many single guys, an african couple, a japanese girl from texas in the us and an equal number of single girls. the party was on with some drinks and food. and then they gave us towels to change and cover ourselves for the brief period. people chatting aorund and slowly it started becoming erotic. the thai husband of the singaporean girl wanted me to start off with his wife. her head in his laps as he massaged her tits. i went daty, and then shoved a condom on and went full flow banging her. the viagra was working.
and then went to the bar.which was on a makeshift table and had a drink. there was this cute little thai girl, a college student who was sitting between me and another guy. started caressing her, and kissing her and then we went to the bed and banged her there. and then one more drink. tried wooing the koean girl, but she was more keen in going naked and watching everyone rather than getting into any action.
i strolled towards the bedroom, and found this japanese girl from the usa giving a blow job to a spanish guy. i went down on her and gave her a daty. that guy moved on, and i went on her riding her. it was around 2 30 am. my friend told me lets split. the party was still ging on. watched the african guy riding the singaporean girl. and then he being given a blow job by the thai girl as she was being licked down. there was this indoan guy who took the african girl inside and struggling to bang her, when she just put im down and went on top of him bang bang bang.
my friend and myself moved on. he dropped me in hotel grace. the viagra was still working and i had an erection. i wanted to have atleast one more go. went to the smoking area of the grace hotel coffee shop. picked up a russian girl nelly for 2000 baht, short time. had to pay a room fine of 500 baht to tkae her to my room. deposited her id at the security and went tot the room. she gave me a fantastic blow job. went for a wild fuck. tipped her 1000 baht. it was already 5 30 am. had my nap till around 11 . checked out at 12. sraight to the airport and back home be evening.
while, one tends to get banged or bang in every part of the world, the swinging experience was just fantastic. while i have been to some of these parties, in jakarta and singapore, its held in a very closed door manner and only for known couples with strong references, and single guys are welcome only if recommended by a the female partner of a couple. this was the first time, that i experienced, was a real fantastic gang bang swinging experience. bangkok, you are great. just keep going. we need you.
OTH, with respect, one could actually deduce that you are the knob.
Everything I have posted has been correct, from the PPP winning the election, to Samak being PM.
You said the PPP would not win, they did.
You said Samak would never be PM, he is.
You said Abhisit would be PM, he is not.
You have a very small mind, and a small group of people are telling you very wrong things about Thailand and how it works.
You can keep believing you are right, but you are wrong, wrong, wrong, the history of posts backs up the record of how wrong you are :)
Enjoy :)
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Nobody is disputing your right to express an opinion; only that your opinion is slighly derrogatory and especially daft, in light of the fact that you continue to support Taksin and Samak, even though they are both increasingly embattled on all fronts, because of decidely unsavoury practices.
However, feel free to continue to make yourself look like a complete knob. That's what this forum is here for. :D[/QUOTE]
take it over to the thai politics thread guys.
nobody much cares about political arguments here
Had a one night "lay"over in Bangkok, a few days back.
As suggested by experienced member Mick Licker (see his comments in the Hotel thread), decided to go to town instead of spending the night near the airport, in spite of having an early morning flight to catch.
Arrived in BKK at 1800 Hrs and was out in the arrivals area within 30 minutes since just had hand luggage. Walked directly to gate 3 & 4 and took a metered taxi to the Rembrandt Hotel. The hotel was booked online for US$ 65.00 all inclusive. Taxi charges B 350 including tolls but too much traffic at the exit form the Expressway on to Sukhumvit.
For those transiting through Bangkok and having a overnight layover, please do not look at any Hotels which say they are "near" the airport. There are only two near the airport - Novotel, which is right across but is exorbitantly priced (quoted me US$ 145 per night) and Country Inn (qouted US$ 25 online), which I could see on the drive out of the airport. Although it is close to the airport, it is situated in the middle of nowhere, with no other building/house/activity in its immediate surroundings. Just fields of paddy (I guess).
After the check-in and the customary 3 S's, took a walk along Sukhumvit towards Nana. It started raining heavily so the only place available to duck into was Robinsons and the supermarket in the basement. While taking a stroll in the cosmetics section came across a WG who was giving clear signals. Pretended to buy a cosmetic and asked her for help in the selection process. That did the trick and shortly after wards both of us were standing outside and discussing the terms and conditions of the deal. Since it was still raining, we walked into a adjoining Soi (forget the number) and into a small Japanese restaurant for dinner.
A couple of beers and a small dinner later, walked back to the Hotel in a light drizzle. The doorman gave a puzzled look and before he could say "Swasdee......", I slipped in the customary B 200 for his commitment to let us pass and keep his mouth shut. I was told next morning by the same doorman that the Hotel is not GF, even though you book a double room. The lifts also worked only with the "room key card".
Following the customary shower, the action shifted to the room, starting with a light massage, a BBBJ to completion with CIM. A small rest later and then Round 2 with multiple positions and finishing with doggie. Service was excellent and she was willing to try anything. Did not ask for anal.
As suggested by various members on this forum, had all my belongings and valuables inside a locked carry-on / the room safe and did not want to take out the camera or the mobile to take pictures, although she had accepted for pictures.
Total cost B 700 plus B 100 for a tip. Had not bargained.
She claimed that she was a freelancer who did this occasionally, although going by her performance, I doubt it strongly. She seemed to be a regular WG.
After two rounds, let her go and was deep asleep shortly before 12 midnight.
NOTE:
The next morning when the taxi dropped me at the Departure level at the airport, I could see several "falangs" engaging taxis from there, as soon as the passengers were dropped off. Did not inquire the rates so do not have a comparison. But, contrary to what is mentioned elsewhere on this forum, taxis from the departure level are a possibility (just like the old airport).
Please avoid the so called "Duty Free" at the new airport - it is a total rip-off !
Total Cost for the "lay"over:
Hotel Room: US$ 65.00
Taxis: B 850
WG: B 800
Light Dinner for two: B 900
Total Cost (approx) US$ 145
Total satisfaction : Immense
[QUOTE=Bowled Over]Please avoid the so called "Duty Free" at the new airport - it is a total rip-off !
Total Cost for the "lay"over:
Hotel Room: US$ 65.00
Taxis: B 850
WG: B 800
Light Dinner for two: B 900
Total Cost (approx) US$ 145
Total satisfaction : Immense[/QUOTE]
Glad you had a good night but how can 500bht for 200 cigs be a rip off thats a bargain !
[QUOTE=Bowled Over]
Please avoid the so called "Duty Free" at the new airport - it is a total rip-off !
Total Cost for the "lay"over:
Hotel Room: US$ 65.00
Taxis: B 850
WG: B 800
Light Dinner for two: B 900
Total Cost (approx) US$ 145
Total satisfaction : Immense[/QUOTE]
I think B850 for a RT taxi trip is more of a rip-off. The duty free is not a bargain for USD based buyers, anymore. But cheaper than a whole lot of airports like HKG.
[QUOTE=Bowled Over]Had a one night "lay"over in Bangkok, a few days back.
Total Cost (approx) US$ 145
Total satisfaction : Immense[/QUOTE]
Great report, and very impressed by your pick-up at a cosmetic counter. Sounds like a perfect evening.
Besides which the relative expense (or not) of a couple of taxi rides and a carton of cigarettes is insignificant (but always seems to attract the discussion...)
[QUOTE=Bowled Over]
Total cost B 700 plus B 100 for a tip. Had not bargained.
[/QUOTE]
Well that price is unbelievably good already for BKK.
Rembrandt is O.K., but a bit pompous for my liking, still $65 is good bargain for a Hotel in that class bracket (its low season).
I would have spent more money on the girl and a little less on some other things, with the end result of spending more than you I guess.
[QUOTE=Bowled Over]Total cost B 700 plus B 100 for a tip. Had not bargained.[/QUOTE]
Wow, that has to be the cheapest 2 shot deal available in Bkk. I think even my non P4P costs more than that LOL
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Well written post. ? WGs name?
Only in BKK is the taxi more than the WG.
The Rembrandt is not a bargain at any price.
When does the skytrain from the airport to Suk open?
[QUOTE=Bowled Over]Had a one night "lay"over in Bangkok, a few days back.
I slipped in the customary B 200 for his commitment to let us pass and keep his mouth shut. I was told next morning by the same doorman that the Hotel is not GF, even though you book a double room. The lifts also worked only with the "room key card".
Total cost B 700 plus B 100 for a tip. Had not bargained.
Total Cost for the "lay"over:
Hotel Room: US$ 65.00
Taxis: B 850
WG: B 800
Light Dinner for two: B 900
Total Cost (approx) US$ 145
Total satisfaction : Immense[/QUOTE]
it supposedly won't go to Suk - it goes to makkasan station I might be wrong, though. Supposedly opens late this year
[QUOTE=Dinghy]it supposedly won't go to Suk - it goes to makkasan station I might be wrong, though. Supposedly opens late this year[/QUOTE]I was told that it would open in a couple of years. I have seen little progress over the last 12 months so even that sounds optimistic.
Not sure that it will be much of an advantage if it means lugging my always-heavy bag in and out of trains, stations and final taxi to the hotel.
The indicated Taxi fare of B 850 was for total to and fro. The return trip to the airport cost B 500 since I made the rookie's mistake of asking the Hotel reception to keep the cab ready - they organised a non metered cab from the taxi stand right in front of the Hotel.
Yes, B 800 for the WG was very reasonable. But, the "book keepers" on this forum will factor in the cost of the light dinner. It was raining heavily so that could have had a softening impact on the price. By the way, that small Japanese restaurant was reasonably priced too (its up a steep and narrow staircase, just past the 7-11 on the left hand side of the soi).
Frankly, did not have a look at the cigarette prices. Just saw the prices on the chocolates and the liquor/wine. Both were very high compared to all neighboring airports (as mentioned by Duniawala).
WG's name was Nong.
[QUOTE=Bowled Over]......................
Frankly, did not have a look at the cigarette prices. Just saw the prices on the chocolates and the liquor/wine. Both were very high compared to all neighboring airports (as mentioned by Duniawala).
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You got that wrong, I am afraid. I said it was not a big bargain for USD based customer, but cheaper than, say Hong Kong. Delhi Airport is a little cheaper. Overall the margins are around +/- USD 10.00 depending on the item. e.g. last Saturday JW Black was about $31.60 at the airport while Thai Inflight was selling for $30.00
A few weeks ago i staid 2 days LT with a gogo dancer from Voodoo bar, which is located on the ground floor of Nana Plaza in the far left corner. She was real GF style, tall for thai standarts, great body. Nice, big fakey tits plus almost perfect in english as she was an english student at one of the BKK universitys. However i forgot to take a picture. So if any of you brothers is taking her out, please post for everybodies pleasure and for my album. No nude welcome. Thanks and cheers. D.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]it supposedly won't go to Suk - it goes to makkasan station I might be wrong, though. Supposedly opens late this year[/QUOTE]
The Airport train will go to MAkkasan. It will not link with the rest of the current BTS. Another great example of Thai planning and foresight.
[QUOTE=Dolphin12]A few weeks ago i staid 2 days LT with a gogo dancer from Voodoo bar, which is located on the ground floor of Nana Plaza in the far left corner. She was real GF style, tall for thai standarts, great body. Nice, big fakey tits plus almost perfect in english as she was an english student at one of the BKK universitys. However i forgot to take a picture. So if any of you brothers is taking her out, please post for everybodies pleasure and for my album. No nude welcome. Thanks and cheers. D.[/QUOTE]Would be happy to oblige if I could, but what is her name? Always a useful piece of information... And while we're at it, how much?
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Would be happy to oblige if I could, but what is her name? Always a useful piece of information... And while we're at it, how much?[/QUOTE]
Her name was bell or belle. ST was 2000 and LT 3500. A bit high, ok. But special quality deserves special remuneration. Cheers. D.
[QUOTE=Dolphin12]A few weeks ago i staid 2 days LT with a gogo dancer from Voodoo bar, which is located on the ground floor of Nana Plaza in the far left corner. She was real GF style, tall for thai standarts, great body. Nice, big fakey tits plus almost perfect in english as she was an english student at one of the BKK universitys. However i forgot to take a picture. So if any of you brothers is taking her out, please post for everybodies pleasure and for my album. No nude welcome. Thanks and cheers. D.[/QUOTE]
Dolphin, I took a girl from Voodoo bar a year or so ago. Had her and another girl. I don't remember her name, but she had very large tits that she claimed were real but you could see the scars transecting both nipples. She also has a tatoo at the base of her spine and would not allow any photos(her friend had no problem with the camera) but I did get her on video. Service was ok but while doing her friend she did disappear to the bathroom. I may post a picture if I can crop it enough.
BB.
[QUOTE=Dolphin12]Her name was bell or belle. ST was 2000 and LT 3500. A bit high, ok. But special quality deserves special remuneration. Cheers. D.[/QUOTE]
Well that's funny because typically Thais cannot pronounce this word "Bell" or "Belle". When a Thai says it, it would come out like "Ben" because they cannot make an L sound at the end of a word and even at the start of a word their L is different to an English L.
A Thai TV Star has name "Benz" (as in Mercedes) but it is pronounced just "Ben" with a silent "z".
Not an uncommon nickname, spelled or at least pronounced แบว.
[QUOTE=Dolphin12]A few weeks ago i staid 2 days LT with a gogo dancer from Voodoo bar, which is located on the ground floor of Nana Plaza in the far left corner. She was real GF style, tall for thai standarts, great body. Nice, big fakey tits plus almost perfect in english as she was an english student at one of the BKK universitys. However i forgot to take a picture. So if any of you brothers is taking her out, please post for everybodies pleasure and for my album. No nude welcome. Thanks and cheers. D.[/QUOTE]I think i stay with her some times, but i want to be sure if her is same Girl.
Her name is Bell, i have a pic(no nude) can we share pics?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mister Ics]I think i stay with her some times, but i want to be sure if her is same Girl.
Her name is Bell, i have a pic(no nude) can we share pics?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Well, as i said: I do not have any pics of her. However I am posting pics of another one. Her name is Priew. She worked as a show girl in Long Gun and later on as a show girl in Angel Witch. I knew her since she was 19. Those pics are from the end of 2005. I dated her last time in 2007. She is very natural and smooth. Easy going with gorgeous natural tits, a pleasure to be with. Did unfortunately not see her last year and lost contact. She was keen to go to the US, may be she is there now. Enjoy. D.
[QUOTE=Betong]Not an uncommon nickname, spelled or at least pronounced แบว.[/QUOTE]
Well I am not familiar with this name "baew" with a flat tone.
I have heard of แป๋ว (bpaew with a rising tone) or sounds like bairw. This can be either a girl's name or a guy's name I believe. Perhaps we are on the same track here.
So to a westerner this could indeed sound something like "Belle"
Dolphin, this is the girl I took from Voodoo bar. Not sure he the if same one you saw as this was a year ago.
BB
Has anyone tried Naan at nataree? She is #92.
She is around 20 and is sooooo hot. She looks like a baby doll, but don't be wrong, in the bed she's a killer.
I guess her best side is her blow job, anither one who just take it all, up to last drop.
Her DFK also warm and deep
The type of girl I love, I guess I will have her again shortly, I getting a hard on just thinking about it
Anyone has experienced her?
I have a question for the more experienced Bangkok members of the forum. Do you know of a club similar to the Pegasus or other top end gentlemen’s clubthat caters to women’s sexual desires ? I have a 40 year old female colleague coming to BKK to work for three years and she is concerned about her ability to get laid. She has asked me about this kind of club for women, and while I have heard rumors of one several years ago, I know of no such place.
I am landing at BKK airport at 15.30 on the 25th of December, I will pushed for time as the Mrs is with me, I have booked the Sheraton Hotel Shukumwit , should I have enough time to have a haircut, shave etc and get to Akane center soi 33 or Subway, I am probably jet lagged after a 12hrs flight from Lon and therfore do not need FS, or am I better of going to Aviva massage in soi 8. The Mrs is expecting me to take her out for a meal that evening. Any nice restaurants near the hotel, I was thinking of cabbages and condoms or any other suggested restaurant nearby. Next day if i can get away head to Eden for my 1st visit i fancy spanking a couple of ladies bottoms any suggestions of names i can pre-book, any one tried this before. Any help fully appreciated
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I have a question for the more experienced Bangkok members of the forum. Do you know of a club similar to the Pegasus or other top end gentlemen’s clubthat caters to women’s sexual desires ? I have a 40 year old female colleague coming to BKK to work for three years and she is concerned about her ability to get laid. She has asked me about this kind of club for women, and while I have heard rumors of one several years ago, I know of no such place.[/QUOTE]
The Duni Club is now open for business! ;)
[QUOTE=Duniawala]The Duni Club is now open for business! ;)[/QUOTE]
...since you have not seen the lady!
[QUOTE=Dreams]...since you have not seen the lady![/QUOTE]
Duni doesn't care. He is just a horn dog ;)
[QUOTE=Duniawala]The Duni Club is now open for business! ;)[/QUOTE]
It's a serious question.
[QUOTE=Dreams]...since you have not seen the lady![/QUOTE]
Actually, she a very attractive 40 year old lady. She just realizes that she can't compete with the competition and most guys would rather have a hot 20 year old Thai girl.
I've heard rumor of such a club, but have no knowledge of such a place.
Hi, is my first time in the forum. Cause is my first time cheong.Usually just cheong during outstation. Hmm Reach here yesterday staying abit far from action i'm staying somewhere in sanam pao. Living in a 2 room apt for 3k B i think worth it with living room and 2 washroom with a friend so needed 2 bedroom.
Yesterday when to Natree took a while to reach there cause when to the wrong exit and walk all the way wrong, till i reach there sweat like hell so is time for a bath, went in saw this hmm i think consider pretty. Her name i think pronous as something like Phone, the only thing is she speak min english or any other language .....
name: phone
age :25
Look :8/10
GFE : 8/10
BJ:7/10
FS:7/10
Dmg :2.6k B
No. : 155
Oh the funny is just remember is I think maybe too long didn't have it then, I came quite quickly, so didn't expect she will offer me the 2nd time without extra charges. But my friend been a bit unluckly, she choose a look I think 7-8/10 but just a looker a first at the lift there is some GFE but reach to the room hmmm didn't even wash hair and clean the facces. I think some sort of rushing to go. I can't remember the number I will let you guy know when I check with my friend. So after that we went to beer garden to have a beer. But didn't see anything else.
So move on to Soi cowboy ... when we walking down the street i think didnt much get to my attention, but hope forum bro can help out a bit , i went pass this Joe's bar i think oppsite Shark or Baracc there is this 2 girl look like jap ,thai chinese ,chinese and i see the time was like 10 something hmm i start to doubt see cause quite pretty . i think u guy still dont know what i doubt to be frankly sometime i doubt wether is a ladyboy or not? if forum bro can let me know thanks a lot and is there any ladyboy work in soi cowboys?
2nd i think nothing much intersted cause today i think might go to chatukcha for some shopping think maybe no action for tonight . But anyone can comfirm the 2 ladies are pure girl i think i know where i should go tonight
Shavalu
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Actually, she a very attractive 40 year old lady. She just realizes that she can't compete with the competition and most guys would rather have a hot 20 year old Thai girl.
I've heard rumor of such a club, but have no knowledge of such a place.[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm not into 20 year olds and would rather spend time with Older ladies :) , that's providing she would not mind the company of a guy 10 years her Junior...
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, I'm not into 20 year olds and would rather spend time with Older ladies :) , that's providing she would not mind the company of a guy 10 years her Junior...[/QUOTE]
She likes guys younger than can perform... And, she likes it. Right now she is dating 20 something Marines. She will arrive BKK in October.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]She likes guys younger than can perform. And, she likes it. Right now she is dating 20 something Marines. She will arrive BKK in October. [/QUOTE]She is dating more than 20 marines. Sounds like a bit of old slag then, 20 blokes on the go at once.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]It's a serious question.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I may not be in my 20's but it WAS a serious offer.
Many thanks to Cialis.;)
I would love to meet this sexed up lady friend of yours.
I plan to be in Thailand & BKK between oct 6-17th
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Hey, I may not be in my 20's but it WAS a serious offer.
Many thanks to Cialis.;)[/QUOTE]
I will let you know when she arrives.
[QUOTE=Easy2007]She is dating more than 20 marines. Sounds like a bit of old slag then, 20 blokes on the go at once.[/QUOTE]
"20 something" usually means 20-30 years of age.
Duni might might be a bit too old ;) (just like I would be too).
Sounds like she is looking for real athletes.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]"20 something" usually means 20-30 years of age.
Duni might might be a bit too old ;) (just like I would be too).
Sounds like she is looking for real athletes.[/QUOTE]
Shit! I'm in the age bracket, but I'm not an athlete :(
[QUOTE=Shavulu]Hi, is my first time in the forum. Cause is my first time cheong.Usually just cheong during outstation. Hmm Reach here yesterday staying abit far from action i'm staying somewhere in sanam pao. Living in a 2 room apt for 3k B i think worth it with living room and 2 washroom with a friend so needed 2 bedroom.
Yesterday when to Natree took a while to reach there cause when to the wrong exit and walk all the way wrong, till i reach there sweat like hell so is time for a bath, went in saw this hmm i think consider pretty. Her name i think pronous as something like Phone, the only thing is she speak min english or any other language .....
name: phone
age :25
Look :8/10
GFE : 8/10
BJ:7/10
FS:7/10
Dmg :2.6k B
No. : 155
Oh the funny is just remember is I think maybe too long didn't have it then, I came quite quickly, so didn't expect she will offer me the 2nd time without extra charges. But my friend been a bit unluckly, she choose a look I think 7-8/10 but just a looker a first at the lift there is some GFE but reach to the room hmmm didn't even wash hair and clean the facces. I think some sort of rushing to go. I can't remember the number I will let you guy know when I check with my friend. So after that we went to beer garden to have a beer. But didn't see anything else.
So move on to Soi cowboy ... when we walking down the street i think didnt much get to my attention, but hope forum bro can help out a bit , i went pass this Joe's bar i think oppsite Shark or Baracc there is this 2 girl look like jap ,thai chinese ,chinese and i see the time was like 10 something hmm i start to doubt see cause quite pretty . i think u guy still dont know what i doubt to be frankly sometime i doubt wether is a ladyboy or not? if forum bro can let me know thanks a lot and is there any ladyboy work in soi cowboys?
2nd i think nothing much intersted cause today i think might go to chatukcha for some shopping think maybe no action for tonight . But anyone can comfirm the 2 ladies are pure girl i think i know where i should go tonight
Shavalu[/QUOTE]Mate,
How can we know whether the 2 ladies u mention is ladyboy or not. At least you should give some detail.
But from my experience.. it's really hard to strike a 10/10 real puying at soi cowboy or nana. Most of the 10/10 puying at soi cowboy or nana are mostly ladyboy. I think if you want to stike pretty girl.. you should try RCA where the local thai hangout. But RCA is not the pay and play place. It depends on your luck. Sometime you can get freebie there or going home alone.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Berty Boy]Dolphin, this is the girl I took from Voodoo bar. Not sure he the if same one you saw as this was a year ago.
BB[/QUOTE]
Thanks BB, very nice lady. Fantastc boobs. But this is not the one. Regards D.
I had a couple of days in BKK and tried all the usual places and they are just like they always were and as they're reported so no need to clutter up the fourm. BUT, you have to love progress and Apache Coyote in Soi Cowboy has progressed.
Went in: good beer, good prices and reasonable girls nude and while it's still the standard Issan shuffle, it's pleasant enough.
Up comes Wi (or is it Wii? :-) ) number 15. Very friendly and very cuddly. A lady drink is called for and so off we go. Great DFK, groping and she's pretty keen on digital stimulation. All the while she's stroke stroke stroking away.
Anyway, I'm only human and bar fine raises it head. We discuss and to my surprise they have an upstairs area and it's included in the bar fine (B600). Wi wants B1500. Sounds fair, or at least I'm too involved by this stage to care about price. So up we go.
I am expecting a crumby room and noisy aircon, this is what passes for upstairs in most places. To my surprise, upstairs is more bar. Internally lighted tables, banquet seating and curtains everywhere. It's like the VIP areas in US tabeltop dancing places. I love it. We get a booth, get some more drinks and then my private show starts. All my fantasies (well at least about what I want to do to the dancer) come true.
Wi leans off the table and BBBJ, she arches her back and asks me to rub her and lick her and well, you get the idea. After a little, she lays back and I'm on top of her and we're at it. The music is loud (but not too loud), the lights are flashing and the curtain makes it all so cozy. I take her off the table and put her on the bench and it's more good times.
We go for a fair while and then it's time to blow and while my plans were for a PSE CIM or on her face or tits, it just feels so good and the music and the lights, well you know...
Anyway. It was different, it was fun and she was nice. What more could you want.
Bangkok is always full of surprises!
LTB
[QUOTE=Long Time Boy]I had a couple of days in BKK and tried all the usual places and they are just like they always were and as they're reported so no need to clutter up the fourm. BUT, you have to love progress and Apache Coyote in Soi Cowboy has progressed.......
[/QUOTE]
I was curious as to why you would call it a "coyote" bar.
The following web site which has good reviews of Cowboy bars explains it:
[url]http://www.davetheravebangkok.com/soi-cowboy-review/[/url]
It used to be called "Apache" but now has been renamed to "Coyote", after being taken over by Suzi Wong owners, but its a "go-go" bar as Long Time Boy described.
I mostly agree with "davetherave's" assessments.
My tips:
Best erotic show (with pseudo lesbians): Suzi Wong
Best rock shows: Rawhide and Long Gun
Ugly show (Pussy Darts etc.): Long Gun
Crazy bar with cute girls: Doll's House
Sex fiends bar: Deja Vu (beware the 2-3 lady boys)
Best Live Band: Five Star
Young Pretty Girls but dull: Shark
Best dirty dark corner hanky-panky bar: I don't know but there are several: (Afterskool, Toy Bar, etc.)
Best look up the school girls skirt bar: Baccara (but gets boring quickly)
Food: Old Dutch Restaurant
Ugliest Girls: Midnite
"Coyote" sounds worth a look since I specially like bars with girls all "bare", so that there are no suprises when they get their gear off in your room. Cowboy has much more nudity than Nana Plaza or Patpong I think.
I am so warped I wouldn't choose a girl with an ugly pussy or an ugly nose, or ugly fake tits, or too much piercing, or too many tats, or ....
I see plenty of "ugly" pussy in the photo-gallery at times that causes me to shut the picture in a hurry.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Shit! I'm in the age bracket, but I'm not an athlete :([/QUOTE]
I'm suprised to hear that with such a lot of sexercise :)
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I was curious as to why you would call it a "coyote" bar...........Ugliest Girls: Midnite [/QUOTE]
Ugliest girls is Dundee...
Coyote comes from movie Coyote Ugly where girls dance on the bar and it made it's way across the world. Basically the girls pretend not to be hookers when they are. Plus if a girl does not want to go with the guy they can claim they are coyote's only and dance only etc... or try to hit up dumb farangs for more baht.... Name first stated to come up in Pattaya and other places before it made it's way into BKK from what I understand.
BTW Mick... the old crow is still going strong....
Long Time Boy,
I love progress too.
Thanks for the report!
The term "coyote" originated at the Coyote Ugly Saloon, which opened in New York City in 1993. The term spread all over the world after the release (in 2000) of the successful movie with the same name. The movie made the the concept of coyote dancers very popular.
In the NYC Coyote Ugly bar, the term at first referred to female BARTENDERS (not dancers) who sometimes got up on the bar and danced or sang or did magic tricks, acrobatics, all sorts of stunts, including flashing their tits, to get the customers to buy drinks. The concept was hugely successful and many U.S. bars rushed to take advantage of it. The problem was that relatively few women were cut out to be coyote bartenders and it was difficult meet demand. In time, some U.S. bars went for a hybrid form - "coyote dancers," i.e., girls who danced on the bar but weren't bartenders. They were sexy, although they didn't show much bare skin.
HOWEVER, and it's a big however, the term means different things in different places. In Thailand, it's supposed to mean dancers who are so good-looking that they don't have to dance naked, topless or even in bikinis. Keep in mind that TGs in general - and even BGs - find it humiliating to dance naked (or near naked). In the end, they'll do what they have to do to support their families, but they hate "unclothed" dancing. One coyote, who used to dance at Angel Witch, told me that the customers she pulls as a coyote treated her better than the customers she had as a go go dancer.
BTW, Coyote Ugly was the title of a play from the early 1980s about a grotesque family in Arizona, pure Southwestern white trash. The slang term "coyote ugly" refers to the feeling of waking up after a one night stand and discovering that you are beside someone who is so physically repulsive that you would gladly gnaw off any of your limbs that he or she is sleeping on just so you can get away without being discovered. Coyotes, when caught in a trap, will chew off their paws to get away.
It's the customers, not the bartenders, who are coyote ugly. It's also a very appropriate image for 90% of the foreign male visitors to Thailand.
Evil
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]"20 something" usually means 20-30 years of age.
Duni might might be a bit too old ;) (just like I would be too).
Sounds like she is looking for real athletes.[/QUOTE]
She is just looking for a good fvck, like everyone else.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I'm suprised to hear that with such a lot of sexercise :)[/QUOTE]
Well, I am slim and fit, but still far away from looking like a young marine LOL
Retired Army, the lady sure is tempting and I would not mind meeting her if she is up to it.
You've noticed I haven't posted a review in a long time, well, that's because I am way too busy with my Camfrog ladies, to date, I have met a dozen and had sex with all of them :)
3 are now my official gigs, and they don't cost me a dime (unless when we are together I pay for everything)
Guys, in need of a little help, and yes i have read the board before posting this request.
Will be coming to Bangkok at the end of this month, but the company i am visiting has arranged hotel space up on Soi 55, which seems a bit far away from any activity centers.
What if anything is there in that area, am looking for massages as well, but fully legit as well as non legit, any suggestions would be welcome.
TT
[QUOTE=Retired Army]She is just looking for a good fvck, like everyone else.[/QUOTE]
That thing is hard to tell without trying first.
But if you reckon she will take anything, great.
But if she is good looking herself then she can probably be choosy.
Some of us are warped. We have certain standards. I never screw someone too ugly, hairy, bad odour, dirty, diseased, etc.
A good fuck is not quite enough for me.
I am always searching for above average looks girls (through to stunning) who are also good fucks.
I have not had any girl of my own age for many years, for some reason that is not completely clear.
There must bbe some good looking 50 year olds around?
I do still have liasons with girls up to about 10 years younger than me that are very good sexually and still have hot bodies.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Ugliest girls is Dundee...
Coyote comes from movie Coyote Ugly where girls dance on the bar and it made it's way across the world. Basically the girls pretend not to be hookers when they are. Plus if a girl does not want to go with the guy they can claim they are coyote's only and dance only etc... or try to hit up dumb farangs for more baht.... Name first stated to come up in Pattaya and other places before it made it's way into BKK from what I understand.
BTW Mick... the old crow is still going strong....[/QUOTE]
I haven't been in Dundee but I'll take your word for it since your "taste" in girls seems great to me.
Thanks for the tip re getting a Coyote Dancer too. I thought they generally weren't available but I haven't asked one yet.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Actually, she a very attractive 40 year old lady. She just realizes that she can't compete with the competition and most guys would rather have a hot 20 year old Thai girl.
I've heard rumor of such a club, but have no knowledge of such a place.[/QUOTE]
I recall there was a "club" in a hotel ? Manhattan? in the soi that runs next to Thermae. This club catered for well to do Thai women (Khunyings and the like) and employed Thai men to service them as and when required.
Would your friend be happy with a Thai man or would she require a farang?
I've had more than a few excellent lays with 40+ Thai women, and if as you say she is attractive, I'd be more than happy to make the trip up from Isaan to have a dabble.
Perhaps Opebo would care to come along too and share expenses!
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I haven't been in Dundee but I'll take your word for it since your "taste" in girls seems great to me.
Thanks for the tip re getting a Coyote Dancer too. I thought they generally weren't available but I haven't asked one yet.[/QUOTE]
The other night in BKK a "coyote" was asking for more then what the highest paid girls on 33 asked for and I laughed so hard diet coke came out my nose..... It's just more BS. She quickly came down in price as it is very slow right now but then she realized my TGF was with me also and there was no way she was going home with me. I even overheard an obvious lady boy walking nana asking a drunk guy for 4,000 baht for short time hahahaha... what is happening to BKK (too many dumb assed farangs).
My "taste" is similar to yours for the quick bang... for long term TGF you know I want a TGF who is jai dee, honest and has stamina over everything else, I hate the friggin drama and games and prima dona's.
I'm a little disappointed my last Gik I can't find anymore... she was a nice darker (not too dark but the kind OTH probably hates ;) ) skinned little tiny spinner..... She kind of reminded me to the one girl you had.
Sitting by the pool in Hua Hin trying to get work done, not a working girl in sight, heck no thai's in sight except the staff and my TGF, all tourists, no noise, no hustle, no hassle...
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Actually, she a very attractive 40 year old lady. She just realizes that she can't compete with the competition and most guys would rather have a hot 20 year old Thai girl.
I've heard rumor of such a club, but have no knowledge of such a place.[/QUOTE]Hi Retired Army,
It should be easy. Here are a couple of options:
1. Take her to one of the gay areas (eg the laid back one in the Soi next to Thaniya Plaza, a second more aggressive one nearby on the other side of Surawong, or if she goes to Patts, Boyztown). Since many of the guys (perhaps over half) are not actually gay, they would be grateful to have an attractive 40 yr. Old female customer. These hetro guys often get stuck servicing elderly male customers. A couple years ago, I visited a Boyztown club w my early 20s Taiwan gf. They went crazy hoping to serve her and she confirmed to me that many of the guys there are very attractive (I got her out of there fast). I think they all range in age between 18 23 w a few exceptions (male mamasan equivalents perhaps? ).
2. Take her to the outdoor disco on Patpong 1 if she is interested in horny farang or African men. Best time between 1 am and closing time (around 2:30 am) when the pick-up action accelerates.
[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]Guys, in need of a little help, and yes i have read the board before posting this request.
Will be coming to Bangkok at the end of this month, but the company i am visiting has arranged hotel space up on Soi 55, which seems a bit far away from any activity centers.
What if anything is there in that area, am looking for massages as well, but fully legit as well as non legit, any suggestions would be welcome.
TT[/QUOTE]
I am guessing that by saying soi 55 you mean Sukhumvit? if that is the case then look no furhter than TULIP. Go to Sukhumvit / Soi 55, take the elevator up to the BTS, cross to the other side of Sukhumvit and you are in front of TULIP (the raunchiest Massage Place in town). Go to the massage Thread and search.
If you are lazy, then in soi 55 is JJ massage [url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010344[/url]
or Platinum massage [url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010689[/url]
but soi 55 is thong lo area and very close to everything: 10 minutes from Soi Cowboy, 15 minutes from NEP and 5 minutes from Soi Oily (24/1).
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I am guessing that by saying soi 55 you mean Sukhumvit? if that is the case then look no furhter than TULIP. Go to Sukhumvit / Soi 55, take the elevator up to the BTS, cross to the other side of Sukhumvit and you are in front of TULIP (the raunchiest Massage Place in town). Go to the massage Thread and search.
If you are lazy, then in soi 55 is JJ massage [url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010344[/url]
or Platinum massage [url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010689[/url]
but soi 55 is thong lo area and very close to everything: 10 minutes from Soi Cowboy, 15 minutes from NEP and 5 minutes from Soi Oily (24/1).[/QUOTE]
Nic, thanks for the tips, and yes i did mean Sukhumvit 55, tbh i thought Soi and Sukhumvit were one and the same, oops.
The travel distance you gave for NEP etc, is that taxi time or walking time.
Thanks again
[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]Nic, thanks for the tips, and yes i did mean Sukhumvit 55, tbh i thought Soi and Sukhumvit were one and the same, oops.[/quote]
Sukhumvit is the main road (like a big avenue) and the Soi(s) are the streets that lead to this avenue. You can find more info on Mick's maps ;)
[quote]The travel distance you gave for NEP etc, is that taxi time or walking time[/QUOTE]
I might be 30 years of age but I hardly ever walk, I am a lazy fucker I guess and always take a cab (or a motorcycle taxi).
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]or a motorcycle taxi.[/QUOTE]
Those are more fun then Disney at times ;) and some of the drivers are hilarious. It is most fun when you get an Evil Knievel wanna be and going around construction areas.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]
Would your friend be happy with a Thai man or would she require a farang?
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I think she would be happy with anyone who would ride her like a 400 pound cowboy on a Shetland pony in a petting zoo.
RA, how about posting a pic of her? you could always hide her face.........
Iof lovely Asian girls.
Perhaps many on here are not in fact in Bangkok? Or perhaps many are not really having all the exciting times with "thai girls" that they write about.
I have been in Asia 25 years now, and I have no desire to do any farang women. Think its very sad all this "excited talk" about a farang women wanting to find a fuck in Bangkok. The city is full of them, nobody can be bothered, who in their right mind whats to do any farang women when you are in Asia and its full
Honestly, its quite pathetic all this talk. Is it just cause its free that people are getting excited over it?
[QUOTE=1Ball]RA, how about posting a pic of her? you could always hide her face.........[/QUOTE]
Right guys, I'm planning a stopover in Asia on the way to Australia. Which city would be the best to go to,
Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Singapore.
I've been reading the forums but there's so much to take it. I've spoken to people that have been to Pattaya and am wondering would Bangkok be similar or would it be better to go down to Pattaya.
I'm planning 3 or 4 nights stay. Thanks for any advice.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I think she would be happy with anyone who would ride her like a 400 pound cowboy on a Shetland pony in a petting zoo.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't you help her out of her dilemma a couple of times a week?
[QUOTE=1Ball]RA, how about posting a pic of her? you could always hide her face.........[/QUOTE]
Yeah ... seems like there has been an awful lot of fuss here over a 40 something "attractive" (maybe) nympho. The suspense is killing you guys. :)
[QUOTE=Haras]Right guys, I'm planning a stopover in Asia on the way to Australia. Which city would be the best to go to,
Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Singapore.
I've been reading the forums but there's so much to take it. I've spoken to people that have been to Pattaya and am wondering would Bangkok be similar or would it be better to go down to Pattaya.
I'm planning 3 or 4 nights stay. Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]If this is you first time.. suggest one night in BKK, then to Pattaya, stay at the Penthouse hotel, get a deluxe room.. 2 nights,,, then if you can leave, back to BKK for the last night..
Forget KL or Sing.. good quality, but you can get 2x as much in BKK, and 3x as much in Pattaya for the same $
[QUOTE=Haras]Right guys, I'm planning a stopover in Asia on the way to Australia. Which city would be the best to go to,
Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Singapore.
I've been reading the forums but there's so much to take it. I've spoken to people that have been to Pattaya and am wondering would Bangkok be similar or would it be better to go down to Pattaya.
I'm planning 3 or 4 nights stay. Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]Lol, I'm ALSO going to Australia with a stopover in Asia soon.
Well, I been to all those places, Bangkok and Singapore multilple times and its simple: If you want (some) culture, sight seeing, interesting food and a slice of Asia, Kuala Lumpur or Bangkok will do that just fine. If you like it nice and clean (but a bit sterile) then Singapore is definitely the place. BUT, if you are here for the reason why we are all here, good lord man, no question: Bangkok, Bangkok, Bangkok!
Trust me, you will find action in Singapore, but its more expensive, more limited and a bigger pain in the ass. KL is veeeery limited and you will find more lady boys than actual girls, but Bangkok will keep you busy allll day and night and the choice of women will be endless! And although yes, its gotten more expensive, its still cheaper than those other two options.
Nobody has tried my babe? How come?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I think she would be happy with anyone who would ride her like a 400 pound cowboy on a Shetland pony in a petting zoo.[/QUOTE]
RA,
Why not let her speak for herself in this forum?
Like Daddy07 says, this suspense is killing me :D
I must agree with Easy2007 here, I would move to the other side of a road if a farang woman is coming towards me.
NMG
[QUOTE=Haras]Right guys, I'm planning a stopover in Asia on the way to Australia. Which city would be the best to go to,
Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Singapore.
I've been reading the forums but there's so much to take it. I've spoken to people that have been to Pattaya and am wondering would Bangkok be similar or would it be better to go down to Pattaya.
I'm planning 3 or 4 nights stay. Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]
If you're considering Pattaya as your one spot, then it means you're interested in the one particular thing Pattaya has to offer. Bangkok and Pattaya are both far and away better than those other spots for that. Yes Bangkok and Pattaya are both 'similar' in that they both have an overwhelming amount of that on offer, and you can't really go wrong with either. For a trip that short, I'd just pick one and stick with it. Gives you time to get a bit familiar with the terrain.
Also, I'd suggest reading the BKK and PTY forums here because the veterans get impatient with new people who come on asking basic questions and say they have no time to read the forum. Now that you've narrowed the scope to Thailand, it should make your research easier.
[QUOTE=Haras]Right guys, I'm planning a stopover in Asia on the way to Australia. Which city would be the best to go to,
Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Singapore.
I've been reading the forums but there's so much to take it. I've spoken to people that have been to Pattaya and am wondering would Bangkok be similar or would it be better to go down to Pattaya.
I'm planning 3 or 4 nights stay. Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]
Haras:
I think the concensus would be Thailand over Singapore or Kuala Lumpur. Both Bangkok and Pattaya have alot to offer, and Thai women are far superior to other Asian women - IMHO. Wendella also offers great advice about searching the forum.
Woodman
[QUOTE=Woodman]Haras:
I think the concensus would be Thailand over Singapore or Kuala Lumpur. Both Bangkok and Pattaya have alot to offer, and Thai women are far superior to other Asian women - IMHO. Wendella also offers great advice about searching the forum.
Woodman[/QUOTE]Agree with that.
However do not underestimate Singapore: one night Geylang can be heaven.
Another thing in Singapore: you also find plenty of other Asian ladies, not only Thais.
Last but not least: Malay and Indonesian ladies are great, believe me!
Thanks guys, now that I know Bangkok is as good as Pattaya I'll save myself the journey down there. I'll study the forums now.
[QUOTE=Haras]Right guys, I'm planning a stopover in Asia on the way to Australia. Which city would be the best to go to,
Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Singapore.
I've been reading the forums but there's so much to take it. I've spoken to people that have been to Pattaya and am wondering would Bangkok be similar or would it be better to go down to Pattaya.
I'm planning 3 or 4 nights stay. Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]
I recommend BKK over Pattaya anyday.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Couldn't you help her out of her dilemma a couple of times a week?[/QUOTE]
I'm too old for her and I don't want anything to do with Farang women. Plus, she and my wife are friends and I am a firm believer in not shitting where I eat.
firstly, a great thank you to everyone who's shared some info in the forums. i learnt a great deal here and i used most of it to figure out the rest when i was there. a little walking around and general exploration got me a long way. so once again, thanks a whole bunch. alot of info here made my bangkok trip better than it would've been.
when we arrived, we of course were interested in getting a nice soapy massage and something of the sort to help us unwind from the flight.
we were staying on wireless road so off we went to the ploen chit bts station.. and we decided to do abit of exploration.
i've read quite abit about the nana entertainment complex and nana hotel so while i was on the bts, i saw us passing by the nana hotel. off at the nana station and we had to back track abit and turn left into a soi.
first impressions.. nep from the outside was rather "dodgy" looking and at approx 4pm, everything was just starting to get together for the evening. its a wooden looking structure of sorts with drinking joints all over and we didnt wander in as we were not up for any drinks.
so we continued with our exploration and we got into the bts, went to the asoke station and interchanged to the mrt to get to poseidon.
i didnt initially know about the "fishbowl" on the 1st floor but it seems that the ladies there are all on the lower end of the scale where the 3rd floor were the model type women, or so they said. :)
so we headed up to the 3rd floor, took our pick and went further upstairs to a moderately sized hotel looking room with a tub. all in all the experience was rather mechanical but essentially, i when shes washing you up and you're lying down there.. i found it rather hard not to look at her and if she looked back at you, it would be rather awkward. i found it hard to fall asleep too so that was quite interesting for me being a first time trying a soapy massage in bangkok.
everything else was very mechanical as well and i noticed that in bangkok, most of these soapy massage places will give you a cbj instead of a bbbj which is quite common in kl or singapore. dont take this the wrong way. im not complaining, in fact i normally ask for it to be safe but i found it quite interesting.. but once again, could be the girls individual prerogative.
all in all, poseidon was nothing to shout about. mediocre service, mediocre looking girls, high price at approx 4500bht for the high end girls and average room.
then that night, we had our dinner and we headed out to dinner in a nice korean restaurant on soi 57 or 59 sukhumvit. very nice and good korean bbq! ill try to dig up the location again on my garmin gps and ill post it here if i find it. really good food.
from there we headed to ekkamai and to a joint called jet.
first things first.. wow is there alot of nice cars! amazing.
there are alot of beautiful young thai women/girls, maybe university students, or young graduates, but just like anywhere else in the world, you need to spend time, conversational efforts and etc to pick these girls up and alot of them come with their group of friends and maybe even boyfriend so in my opinion, it was rather gray and we ended up meeting 1 girl with her gay friend but that was it.
no action for the night. one of my friends which has been living in bkk for quite abit mentioned that action was easier to secure at cm2 in novotel for girls of this age/type/look etc?
next day, we headed down to rca with the girl we met at the jet.
she had about 7 - 8 friends with her, all girls and damn were they beautiful. all around 21, 22 or thereabouts. we got ourselves 2 bottles of whiskey and begun drinking.. the thai girls really know how to party.. and the thing is they insisted on paying for their own drinks as well.. they just kept ordering more and more when they finished theirs and they wouldnt let us pay. i found that quite odd but heck, im not complaining. once again, no action that night as there was a general communication barrier and they had guy friends coming up, chatting with them now and again and generally didnt seem conducive.
so the next day we went to amsterdam. i will definitely recommend this place over poseidon. the overall atmosphere when you enter is much better, easier to select the ladies too as opposed to poseidon where i had to look across a damn concert hall. (figure of speech). ;)
and i found that the m (model) range girls here which were slightly cheaper are as good looking as the sm (super model) ones in poseidon.
the rooms were also much better with a roman sort of theme, better cleanliness, a toilet bowl which i remember not seeing in poseidon.
all in all, a much better experience all around.
better women, better ambience, better cleanliness but i cant say much for the location. it took us a long time mustering up the courage to cross the intersection from the opposite corner especially at 5.30pm.
then for our final night intown, we decided to go to the pent.
first impressions, a nice more quiet executive club with a live band.
we picked our women, which was rather easy because we asked for girls which could speak english. there was 2 of us, and there were 3 who could speak english so it was a rather easy choice. if language was no problem, there was a further 50 or so girls waiting.. time to learn some thai methinks.
membership is not required but since we knocked back 2 bottles of whiskey in the first hour, and membership is 20,000 bht and gives you 9 bottles of whiskey, we might as well take the membership.
cheaper all in all if we were to drink that much liquor.
so it was a fun night beginning infront of the liveband, with alot of drinks, dice games and then progressing to the disco type room next to the pool for some dancing and even more drinking.
we wanted to bring the girls back with us, considering we stayed rather nearby, on the same road, wireless road, but nope.
they didnt even seem the least interested. it was rather "do you want to follow me back?" and the answer was always noo maybe next time, i dont think so. no chance to even talk about price.
so that was not happening but it was an interesting experience. ive read here that pegasus is also similar but the girls will most definitely be ok with going back?
so this wraps up my first mongering trip to bangkok! i had heaps of fun and i always look forward to going back..
just wanted to ask about a couple of things i wasnt able to figure out when i was there.
1. clubs: with clubs like on rca or the jet on ekkamai, there are alot of beautiful young girls. most of them i have to assume are not "working" ladies right? but in the event that you befriend one of them and you get along, are the chances of a one night stand high or even anything more than that? they just seem so awfully friendly that night but they didnt indicate that they would follow us back, nor did they allow us to pay for anything they consumed which really contradicts my perception.
2. executive clubs: the pent was a rather hit and miss sort of thing. ive heard some people hit with relative amounts of success. maybe pegasus would be a better try next time? but i need to go back and finish that 6 bottles of whiskey.
any other suggestions for these kinds of places?
all in all, it was an awesome trip. really didnt want to leave, and now that ive left, really cant wait to be back there again with my mates.
thanks so much again to everyone on the forum and their postings as that was my "lonely planet" to fun in bangkok! if anyone needs any futher info or directions to the places i visited, please dont hesitate to ask altho i got my directions form this forum so im sure its somewhere. :)
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Just curious, a question for those who might know...
If you took the total number of girls who are in the farang-oriented scene in BKK, which would include Sukhumvit area (NP, SC, Thermae, Angels, Soi 33, Biergarten, etc etc and including the farang-oriented massages and also FLs) plus Patpong and I guess CM2 ought to be included as well... and that was your total number for Bangkok...
and then did the same thing in Pattaya and totaled up all the go-gos and beer bars, massages and FL's in the farang scene down there....
What would you guesstimate those 2 totals would add up to?
My suspicion is that including the beer bars of Pattaya puts it way over the top in total numbers, but that's a lot of chaff in the pile of wheat, so it's unfairly inflated numbers for PTY possibly.
I'm surprised there aren't 'census' estimates for these scenes.
I scam Thai women and get FREE sex! I don't pay anything to them. LOL. These girls in Nana, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya are SO easy to take advantage of it's funny! Just try it!
You just fuck them and ditch them. I stay in Thailand and have all the women I want for less than $1500 a month.
[quote=kenster]...
so we continued with our exploration and we got into the bts, went to the asoke station and interchanged to the mrt to get to poseidon.
i didnt initially know about the "fishbowl" on the 1st floor but it seems that the ladies there are all on the lower end of the scale where the 3rd floor were the model type women, or so they said. :)
so we headed up to the 3rd floor, took our pick and went further upstairs to a moderately sized hotel looking room with a tub. all in all the experience was rather mechanical but essentially, i when shes washing you up and you're lying down there.. i found it rather hard not to look at her and if she looked back at you, it would be rather awkward. i found it hard to fall asleep too so that was quite interesting for me being a first time trying a soapy massage in bangkok.
everything else was very mechanical as well and i noticed that in bangkok, most of these soapy massage places will give you a cbj instead of a bbbj which is quite common in kl or singapore.
...
all in all, poseidon was nothing to shout about. mediocre service, mediocre looking girls, high price at approx 4500bht for the high end girls and average room.
...
so the next day we went to amsterdam. i will definitely recommend this place over poseidon. the overall atmosphere when you enter is much better, easier to select the ladies too as opposed to poseidon where i had to look across a damn concert hall. (figure of speech). ;)
and i found that the m (model) range girls here which were slightly cheaper are as good looking as the sm (super model) ones in poseidon.
the rooms were also much better with a roman sort of theme, better cleanliness, a toilet bowl which i remember not seeing in poseidon.
all in all, a much better experience all around.
better women, better ambience, better cleanliness but i cant say much for the location. it took us a long time mustering up the courage to cross the intersection from the opposite corner especially at 5.30pm.
....
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not many posters find the high priced "models" at poseidon to be worth the extra money. i personally don't think they are significantly better looking than the downstairs cheaper girls, but may be younger and probably a good figure is a must.
normally we recommend nataree at half the price although poseidon is more high class. probably you wouldn't like the nataree rooms. personally i have had incredibly good experiences at utopia which is very classy.
poseidon seems a little past its prime.
not many posters have found a great experience at amsterdam, including myself, so if you had a good one, a few more details about the girl would be appreciated.
i don't care so much about the room, lounge, intersection etc. as we know this is a classy place. its the girl that matters. how pretty? good body? good service? even her name or number if you are willing to divulge.
Hello All:
I am going back to LOS after 5 long years and was looking for some updated info. I will be arriving late on a Sunday night. Was thinking after a long series of flights that a soapie might do me good. I am staying in the area around Nana Plaza. Is there a good place in that area that will still be open to get a good soapie...that is somthing I have never done in Thailand. About how much should I expect to pay? I am not sure how large the tubs are...I am a bigger guy and didn't want that to be an issue.
Also, I was wondering if there is anyplace that explores fetishes. I saw the BarBar place advertised in Patpong. Has anyone ever had any experience with this place or some such similar place? Prices, etc?
Shows. I was wanting to see a traditional show while I was in Thailand. I have heard the upstairs bars in Patpong can be a ripoff. Does anyone know of someplace that has a good show where one is not hassled too much?
Foreign Women. I am definately going to mostly sample Thai fare, however for a diversion I was wondering if anybody had any good ideas of where I might find women from say eastern europe? or arab/persian women?
Pregnant Women. Does anyone know of anyplace that I might find any preg. women? It is something of a fetish that I wouldn't mind exploring but as of last time I was not able to find any.
Sorry for the long list but I have always found the members of this board to be soo helpful and I always try to post when I have something of note to report.
Thanks,
JohnnieBravo
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]The term "coyote" originated at the Coyote Ugly Saloon, which opened in New York City in 1993. The term spread all over the world after the release (in 2000) of the successful movie with the same name. The movie made the the concept of coyote dancers very popular.
In the NYC Coyote Ugly bar, the term at first referred to female BARTENDERS (not dancers) who sometimes got up on the bar and danced or sang or did magic tricks, acrobatics, all sorts of stunts, including flashing their tits, to get the customers to buy drinks. The concept was hugely successful and many U.S. bars rushed to take advantage of it. The problem was that relatively few women were cut out to be coyote bartenders and it was difficult meet demand. In time, some U.S. bars went for a hybrid form - "coyote dancers," i.e., girls who danced on the bar but weren't bartenders. They were sexy, although they didn't show much bare skin.
HOWEVER, and it's a big however, the term means different things in different places. In Thailand, it's supposed to mean dancers who are so good-looking that they don't have to dance naked, topless or even in bikinis. Keep in mind that TGs in general - and even BGs - find it humiliating to dance naked (or near naked). In the end, they'll do what they have to do to support their families, but they hate "unclothed" dancing. One coyote, who used to dance at Angel Witch, told me that the customers she pulls as a coyote treated her better than the customers she had as a go go dancer.
BTW, Coyote Ugly was the title of a play from the early 1980s about a grotesque family in Arizona, pure Southwestern white trash. The slang term "coyote ugly" refers to the feeling of waking up after a one night stand and discovering that you are beside someone who is so physically repulsive that you would gladly gnaw off any of your limbs that he or she is sleeping on just so you can get away without being discovered. Coyotes, when caught in a trap, will chew off their paws to get away.
It's the customers, not the bartenders, who are coyote ugly. It's also a very appropriate image for 90% of the foreign male visitors to Thailand.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Wow..Thanks for the detailed explanation...
[QUOTE=Wendella]Just curious, a question for those who might know...
If you took the total number of girls who are in the farang-oriented scene in BKK, which would include Sukhumvit area (NP, SC, Thermae, Angels, Soi 33, Biergarten, etc etc and including the farang-oriented massages and also FLs) plus Patpong and I guess CM2 ought to be included as well... and that was your total number for Bangkok...
and then did the same thing in Pattaya and totaled up all the go-gos and beer bars, massages and FL's in the farang scene down there....
What would you guesstimate those 2 totals would add up to?
[/QUOTE]
The figure that is often given for Pattaya is 30,000 to 40,000. That's based on 3,000 registered bars and 10 to 13 girls in each bar, depending on the season. Some go go and hostess bars have many more girls than 10, but alot of beer bars have less than 10, so someone's "best guesstimate" put the figure around ten per bar as the average. There are a few hundred girls working in MPs and as total free-lancers (i.e., they aren't employed by a bar), but that isn't a big part of the Pattaya scene. A few years ago, the police chief of Pattaya estimated the number at 50,000, but he was referring to peak season around Christmas and New Year.
The figure for Bangkok is much more difficult to estimate with any degree of accuracy, not the least because the city proper has a population of 6.7 million. Guesstimates for the number of P4P providers who cater to male visitors from abroad vary from 80,000 to 200,000. In Bangkok, there is a huge "Thai only" scene that's lacking in Pattaya, but also a lot of crossover between the Thai and foreign-visitor P4P scenes. Last time I was in the Beer Garden, I met a woman who works nights at a Thai place on the outskirts of Bangkok, but comes into the Beer Garden during the day when she needs extra money. And in Bangkok, there are more "occasional" WGs, but not nearly as many as in the imagination of some punters. Most "occasionals" were once full-time P4P providers but then got married or found straight jobs, yet backslide from time to time, depending on their need for fast cash.
Keep in mind these estimates are for the number of women working in P4P on any given day. Over the course of a month or a year, many more women will pass through the scene, but they won't all be working at the same time. A lot of TGs try P4P a short time, hate it and never go back. Others may devote a few months a year to working in P4P to earn money, but spend the rest of the time with their families in their villages.
But to answer your question about the total number of P4P providers in Bangkok and Pattaya who service the non-Thai market - the range could be between 110,000 and 250,000. In the end, it's all guesswork, as there's no really accurate way of determining the number.
Evil
is there an estimate of how many non-thai male visitors (single or left wife at home) are in bangkok ?
and how many ex-pats live in Bangkok ?
Just wondering if on any given night what the working girls to punter ratio is ?
I know its only an estimate , but any ideas ?
BK
Reading Kenster's post started me thinking. About three years ago, I tried Amsterdam and went with a very attractive young woman with a pretty face and model-like figure. The service was terrible, so I swore off Amsterdam. Out of curiosity, I tried Amsterdam again about six months ago and the service was quite good. I would like to recommend that some members try Amsterdam and report back, because it seems like it may be on the way up. The reverse seems true of Poseidon, so I agree with Mick that its best days are probably behind it. About seven years ago, when I first visited Poseidon, I was really excited when I saw all the beauties in the Model Lounge. I tried one girl who was in the Thai version of Penthouse magazine and another one who was very pretty. Service was OK, but not great. I was disappointed, espcially since the price was fairly high (about 4,000 if I recall correctly). Some people have indicated that service in the Poseidon fishbowl is better, so I plan to check that place out on my next trip. Sometimes I like to go to the downstairs restaurant at Poseidon, because I like the band and the food is pretty good.
I've usually had good service at Nataree, and I especially like the soapy body massage on the mattress. Even at Nataree, though, I've had bad service once. Although I'm always tempted by the young cuties who are sideliners at Nataree, I've never actually gone with one, since I heard that service was so-so. I would appreciate a report from anyone who has gone with the sideliners.
My experience has been that luck has a lot to do with finding a good experience. For example, one of the best ones I ever had was at J-! (aka Chao Phaya-1), which has had very mixed reviews on the board. Another good one was at the now closed Atami which was on Petchaburi. It also had mixed reviews, but I found a real winner. Luck and personal chemistry have a lot to do with it.
The one place I have never had bad service is at Tulips. The rooms are terrible and the atmosphere is gloomy, but the girls make you forget all that. What I do now is take a Tulip girl back to the hotel, since the cost is not much more. It's always a great experience.
I have also had good luck with freelancers from Angela's Disco in the Nana Hotel, Bier Garden Soi 7 and even Thermae. I think the reason is that you can talk with them for a while, see if there is chemistry and get a good feel for them before you go back to the hotel. The only bad luck I've had with freelancers is when I pick too quickly. I see a beautiful, young thing, am swept off my feet, immediately make her an offer and head for the hotel. In these situations, I'm disappointed more often than not.
I'll be in Bangkok in a couple of weeks, so I would appreciate any suggestions from members. Besides recommending a place, I would appreciate a name and number of someone you've enjoyed if it's been in the past year. You can either post the information on the board, or PM me if you would like to be discreet.
Never mind
Fritobugger:
The Amsterdam we're talking about is in Bangkok, Thailand. It's a massage parlour. All it shares with Amsterdam in Holland is the name.
Canyon
[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming]
Just wondering if on any given night what the working girls to punter ratio is ?
I know its only an estimate , but any ideas ?
BK[/QUOTE]
Interesting question but almost impossible to give an answer. The situation is complicated when one realises that many working girls have in excess or 1 punter per night.
If, for example the ratio were 2:1, then that is the simple answer. But most bar girls will only go short time and either return to their bars looking for more punters or freelance. Massage girls regularly entertain 3,4 5 or even more punters each day, as do the freelancers. So availability might possibly be double or more the basic ratio of working girls to punters.
Added to this is the fact that some non-Thai males, especially tourists, will also punt more than 1 time a day.
The main thing is that it would seem there are more than enough to go around!
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]I am staying in the area around Nana Plaza. Is there a good place in that area that will still be open to get a good soapie...that is somthing I have never done in Thailand. About how much should I expect to pay? I am not sure how large the tubs are...I am a bigger guy and didn't want that to be an issue.[/quote]
You have 2 choices:
Soi 4: Annies Massage, price 1,500 for 2 hours, 2 shots
Soi 12: Darling Massage, price 2,500 for 2 hours, 2 shots
[quote]Also, I was wondering if there is anyplace that explores fetishes. I saw the BarBar place advertised in Patpong. Has anyone ever had any experience with this place or some such similar place? Prices, etc?[/quote]
Demonia on Sukhumvit soi 33
[quote]Foreign Women. I am definately going to mostly sample Thai fare, however for a diversion I was wondering if anybody had any good ideas of where I might find women from say eastern europe? or arab/persian women? [/quote]
Just do a search for Russian and you will find lots of places. In your Area (nana) you can try the following:
Raja Hotel Soi 4
Grace Hotel Soi 3
[quote]Pregnant Women. Does anyone know of anyplace that I might find any preg. women? It is something of a fetish that I wouldn't mind exploring but as of last time I was not able to find any. [/quote]
I'd like to visit Thailand for a week sometime soon and my goal would be to shag 21 different gals in one week. Is this possible?
Has anyone set a record or know of someone who shagged a ridiculous number of girlies within a short amount of time?
I should have known that. My bad.
[QUOTE=Canyon]Fritobugger:
The Amsterdam we're talking about is in Bangkok, Thailand. It's a massage parlour. All it shares with Amsterdam in Holland is the name.
Canyon[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]Hello All:
Foreign Women. I am definately going to mostly sample Thai fare, however for a diversion I was wondering if anybody had any good ideas of where I might find women from say eastern europe? or arab/persian women?
JohnnieBravo[/QUOTE]
Rajah Hotel for Eastern European. I did a Turkish girl and Russian CIS girl on my last trip in 2007. Service levels and enthuasim were low and they seemed very unhappy. This trip I did not partake. I do use the Rajah for internet and many of them use this at night so you can checkout the goods before committing. Since the girls are no longer on display in the bar there is always a pimp on duty sitting on the couches. Just loiter around, give him the 'look' and he will be right over to take you upstairs. No takeout service available. There are some stunners around but don't go in expecting a positive correlation to price and service. Cost: 2500 bht last visit in 2007.
In regards to the Grace hotel there are many fat arab or 'stani chicks of an unacceptable quality for you to peruse. I picked one up last visit but they tend to be hard nosed bitches. Not recommended.
I've cured my itch and will stick (it) to thai only.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Interesting question but almost impossible to give an answer. The situation is complicated when one realises that many working girls have in excess or 1 punter per night.
If, for example the ratio were 2:1, then that is the simple answer. But most bar girls will only go short time and either return to their bars looking for more punters or freelance. Massage girls regularly entertain 3,4 5 or even more punters each day, as do the freelancers. So availability might possibly be double or more the basic ratio of working girls to punters.
Added to this is the fact that some non-Thai males, especially tourists, will also punt more than 1 time a day.
The main thing is that it would seem there are more than enough to go around![/QUOTE]
I'm not sure I follow why you think it's impossible. BKK Dreaming was asking how many guys there were, and how many girls, not how often they engage in the act -- whether they go 2, 3, 4, 5 or more times per night, each person still only counts as a single person on either side of the equation. And if you want to consider their activity, the vast majority would be engaging in the act one-on-one, so if you're concerned that this eliminates girls from the equation, well, it also eliminates one guy each of those times, so they cancel each other out.
I think for our purposes, Evil Pinevil's approach is 'good enough' for our needs. Just trying to get a basic idea.
And... Thanks Evil! So it seems as if the census concensus is that there are far more girls up in Bangkok than in Pattaya, though I wonder how much that BKK number would be reduced if you just counted the farang-only spots that the vast majority of foreigners (and I) normally restrict themselves to. I would guess that the Thai-oriented places where foreigners occassionally go would bloat BKK's numbers a lot. I'd be very curious to see a breakdown of the different spots -- Soi Cowboy, Artist bars, Nana Plaza, etc. Like which has most girls total: SC, NP or PP?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]I'd like to visit Thailand for a week sometime soon and my goal would be to shag 21 different gals in one week. Is this possible?[/quote]
it is possible. just make sure your heart can take it.
[quote]Has anyone set a record or know of someone who shagged a ridiculous number of girlies within a short amount of time?[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, we're all over 15 years of age so these kind of records are pretty irrelevant to us, sorry.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]As far as I know, we're all over 15 years of age so these kind of records are pretty irrelevant to us, sorry.[/QUOTE]Hey speak for yourself pal, I thought it would be interesting to hear about this.
You need to be careful, Tony, before you attempt anything like this. You may need to rehearse by jerking off three times per day for a couple of weeks as training before you visit BKK.
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I'd like to visit Thailand for a week sometime soon and my goal would be to shag 21 different gals in one week. Is this possible?
it is possible. just make sure your heart can take it.
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Has anyone set a record or know of someone who shagged a ridiculous number of girlies within a short amount of time?
As far as I know, we're all over 15 years of age so these kind of records are pretty irrelevant to us, sorry.
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]
Has anyone set a record or know of someone who shagged a ridiculous number of girlies within a short amount of time?[/QUOTE]
The record so far at the Eden Club is the guy who did 20 different girls in one afternoon. This happened in 2002. The girls said he got his dick in each of the 20, but of course he didn't come 20 times. Behind the bar at Eden, directly across from the yellow line, there's a photo of him and the girls. I have posted a photo of that photo on ISG. I thought it was 21 girls, but Marc says 20.
The record for coming most times in 90 minutes at Eden is six, if I remember right. The ladies say quite a few guys, most of them under 25 years of age, have managed five times, but only one has done six. He came three times through intercouse (one vaginal, two anal) and the final three shots were all blow jobs.
Evil
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]I'd like to visit Thailand for a week sometime soon and my goal would be to shag 21 different gals in one week. Is this possible?
Has anyone set a record or know of someone who shagged a ridiculous number of girlies within a short amount of time?[/QUOTE]
Don't know how old you are but I see no reason why you should not achieve your target, especially if you space the shags out during the day.
On my first ever night in Thailand, some 25+ years ago, I picked up a girl walking around Patpong. Between 12 midnight and 7am I came 5 times, (she wouldn't let me sleep!) a feat I repeated some 6 years later with a girl from the Marine Bar in Pattaya.
Nowadays just once is the norm (very occasionally 2 if the girl doesn't want to rush off), but after a few beers, I generally give up trying after half hour through exhaustion!
Why not turn this thing a little upside down and see how many orgasms you can give a woman in a weeks time????????
Would be interesting. I dont know about other members here, but I always do my job at least once a session.
Ken.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Don't know how old you are but I see no reason why you should not achieve your target, especially if you space the shags out during the day.
On my first ever night in Thailand, some 25+ years ago, I picked up a girl walking around Patpong. Between 12 midnight and 7am I came 5 times, (she wouldn't let me sleep!) a feat I repeated some 6 years later with a girl from the Marine Bar in Pattaya.
Nowadays just once is the norm (very occasionally 2 if the girl doesn't want to rush off), but after a few beers, I generally give up trying after half hour through exhaustion![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]I'd like to visit Thailand for a week sometime soon and my goal would be to shag 21 different gals in one week. Is this possible?
Has anyone set a record or know of someone who shagged a ridiculous number of girlies within a short amount of time?[/QUOTE]
One thing is for sure: The limiting factor will be you and your physiology, and not the availability of opportunity.
[QUOTE=Ken Orvik]Why not turn this thing a little upside down and see how many orgasms you can give a woman in a weeks time????????
Would be interesting. I dont know about other members here, but I always do my job at least once a session.
Ken.[/QUOTE]
Nothing pleases me more than seeing a woman in the throes of orgasm, even at the expense of my own ending. But usually once a woman is well satisfied, she will move heaven and earth to see that you get your just rewards.
first, let me thank all those who have contributed to this forum. without that information, it would have been difficult to hit the ground running.
arrived with the sun friday morning and checked in early at livingstone's lodge. a little smaller than i expected from the pictures but it seems like a nice place. will post more on my lodge impressions later in the trip after i have had time to visit the sports bar and meet some of the fine ladies there.
took a part of day 1 just learning the lay of the land. how the bts works, picked up generic cialias, unlocked the phone, etc. then back to the room to crash for 5 hours.
finally out in the evening for mongering. first stop was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on the dead end alley 2nd right south of suk on soi 8.
i was greeted by a cadre of cute girls sitting outside. they of course invited me in. (strange how you get invited in by everyone) since i had read the forum, i knew that if i didn't make my pick someone would follow me in.
there was one exceptionally spinner outside so i make eye contact and motioned her to join me. her name was mew. we went in and i picked up a water and bought her a drink. we then proceeded upstairs.
upstairs on the 2nd floor there are arch shaped benches with curtains between. she offered me a seat pulled the curtain and went to get some supplies.
when she arrived back, she helped me remove the shorts. when she saw the level of attention i was already at she let out an expression of surprise and excitement. well we discussed the options. 700 b for a bj and 1100 b for fs. they had private rooms upstairs, but part of the allure of the place is doing it in a more open setting.
in any event. we proceeded to do the fs there. spent around 45 minutes. tried a couple of positions and left very satisfied.
mew was very nice eye candy. had really good technique. liked to look in the eyes and appreciated my attention to her as well. probably would go back but there are so many other candies on the dish. if she has spoken better english, i might have asked for a take out with her later.
so first day was enjoyable. spent a lot of it sleeping after the trip but had just the right amount of stress relief.
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]I'd like to visit Thailand for a week sometime soon and my goal would be to shag 21 different gals in one week. Is this possible?
Has anyone set a record or know of someone who shagged a ridiculous number of girlies within a short amount of time?[/QUOTE]
This is not a problem really as long as you are up for it and it would not come close to a record.
I would not get to 21 personally partly because I have a bad habit :) of wanting to screw the same girl more than once.
But a morning screw, and afternoon session an evening session and a late session adds up to 4 a day if you have the stamina.
If you get behind, i would suggest going to "Star of light" and choose 2, 3 or even 4 girls to take to a nearby short time Hotel and have them all in rotation. I have taken multiple girls also at Eden and at Suzie Wong bar in Soi Cowboy. You need to choose girls that like working with each other.
Another approach is to go to a good Soapy like Nataree or Long Beach, Copa Cabana etc. and have a session, followed by short break followed another session etc. Same could be done at a good Oily MP like Tulip, Angel26, Thonglor2, etc.
Go to Pattaya and you might rack up the girls quickly at a much lower cost.
Heh, in the end its not the actual number of girls that matters, but did you have a good time and did you get the sexathon out of your system.
I have a seriously long list of girls I would like to do on my coming trip too (many of which will be repeats) but I didn't count how many. I will fail to get them all done but there will be plenty of sex.
I would suggest trying to have as many as possible in just one day, say 3 groups of 3-4 girls, then have a more relaxed time for the rest of the week. :D
[QUOTE=Ken Orvik]Why not turn this thing a little upside down and see how many orgasms you can give a woman in a weeks time????????
[/QUOTE]
That's a bit crazy too, since it depends on the girl how many orgasms she can handle. Some don't want more than 1 per day others will handle 5 per day easily and would get hard to count for girls that are very multi-orgasmic to the extent that even the girl doesn't remember how many she had in this session.
Ekkamai:
Started the night at Blog@9 which is located on the main Ekkamai road, great local band with tons of good looking girls and most of them university students from around the area. (Ramkamheng & Bangkok universities). The girls are friendly and quite easy to strike up a conversation and will depend on one's pulling power and availability of time. Took 2 bottles of JW Swing and the total bill came up to THB7k with all the additional mixers.
Moved on to Piano Bar, which is down the road and you are instantly reminded why LOS consistently has the best looking girls whom are sexy, very friendly (some DFK if you know your way) and know how to dress provocatively, but most will not go home with you. The package is THB20k for 10 bottles of Chivas. The place is popular with locals & chinese guys from some of the asian countries. Again if you know some basic Thai, it will be very useful. Do tell the mamasan your preference and she will bring some choices for you.
Prices for Piano are reasonable & similar to Sherbet, which I mentioned in a previous FR. Had a quick look into Muse, in the ThongLor area, very crowded and not my cup of tea as did not fancy drinking at a place where you cant even move your arms due to large capacity crowd.
This morning went to Tulip for morning breakfast but my repeat choice was pre-booked by another gentleman via phone. Did the ritual of looking through the album and resisted to ask for the parade and picked a sweet looking one, Pim, which again as the regulars say, Tulip is very consistent with the quality of girls and services provided. Did the full 2 hours alternating between sex and sensual massages.
FD
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]The record so far at the Eden Club is the guy who did 20 different girls in one afternoon. This happened in 2002. The girls said he got his dick in each of the 20, but of course he didn't come 20 times. Behind the bar at Eden, directly across from the yellow line, there's a photo of him and the girls. I have posted a photo of that photo on ISG. I thought it was 21 girls, but Marc says 20. [/QUOTE]
Holy shit, so that probably cost him like 36,000 baht?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]I'd like to visit Thailand for a week sometime soon and my goal would be to shag 21 different gals in one week. Is this possible?
Has anyone set a record or know of someone who shagged a ridiculous number of girlies within a short amount of time?[/QUOTE]
The last time I visited the LOS I banged 20 different girls in 10 days which averaged 2 a day. To attain your goal one would have to up that to three a day which again is attainable IMHO ;-). The question is, and I have posed this on another board so we'll see what some of our more seasoned campaigners have to say is where can one get the most bang for the buck? (pardon the pun)
On another subject, I was wondering if any fellow punter had any leads as to where I might find a preg woman? Odd to some of you I know, but we all have our fantasies.
Thanks,
JohnnieBravo
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]
On another subject, I was wondering if any fellow punter had any leads as to where I might find a preg woman? Odd to some of you I know, but we all have our fantasies.
JohnnieBravo[/QUOTE]
Sometimes a pregnant girl is seen on the Sukhumwit Road at night. I nearly stopped to chat one up once, as she was quite good looking, and I wanted to check it was no hoax, but decided to keep walking.
Did take a girl from Nana Plaza once who had recently given birth (perhaps 2 months prior) and large breasts still full of milk and plenty of stretch marks still evident.
So pregant girls still have to support themselves.
O.K. I am new here as you can see by report number, but I found this place via a link in google with "Micks Report".(Thanks Mick)
Just a couple of things I have not figure out.
1.) What the hell is a farang? Sounds like an energy drink, but I am guessing some kind of foreigner or outsider maybe? If so why do they get charged more in some places.
2.) Sideline girl, have no clue.
3.) If I just want to stay in my hotel room, what is the recomended way of ordering some room service?
Thanks for all, I will be in bangkok for four days and will put my first hand report here. I want to find a place for this body rub (Thai Massage?), and then some FS. I would also like to be able to do room service to a local hotel, unless you guys don't reccomned this method.
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]
On another subject, I was wondering if any fellow punter had any leads as to where I might find a preg woman? Odd to some of you I know, but we all have our fantasies.
[/QUOTE]
The best way is to make use of the bar-girl network. Just ask any lady with whom you've had a good session if she has a pregnant friend or acquaintance who would be interested. If she doesn't, she'll ask someone and eventually she'll find one for you. Most girls will stop working when they show obvious signs of being pregnant, but will be happy to earn extra baht for a "special assignment." You'll probably have to settle for a blow job if the' provider is in the last months of her pregnancy, though. Just make it clear to the one that steers you in the right direction that you are willing to tip her a few hundred baht for putting you in touch with a pregnant P4P provider.
Evil
I just returned to Bangkok for a short 36 hour visit. Since my time is very limited due to those pesky business requirements, I did a bit of research on the web, and here on the forum prior to my arrival. In the past I have had very good service and experience with OGOTO Massage, so I figured I would try them again. Just type “OGOTO Massage – Bangkok”, in Google and their site will come up.
The past three times I have I received GFE service two of the three times. The times I used Naree (no longer working), and Cee (still available) I was VERY happy. The time I used Jun, the experience was less than GFE and very mechanical. In reviewing their web site and I decided to try Haru this time. I arrived early in the morning – finished my business by 1 PM, and called OGOTO around 2 PM, and arranged to have Haru visit my hotel at 4 PM. The girl arrived promptly at 4, was pretty – just as her photo on their web-site. When she arrived we went through the usual “get to know you” routine, and after about 5 minutes she asked that I lay on the bed. She gave an excellent oil massage that was very sensual with occasional brushes on the important parts. She initially started the massage dressed in her panties and blouse. As the massage continued the rest of her clothes came off, as she gave a great body to body massage. When she asked me to flip over, things really started to heat up. Those breasts were just magnificent! She was shaved clean, and responded very favorably to DATY. She gave a marginal BBBJ, but other aspects of the deed more than made up for her lack of skill with the BJ. She was open to multiple positions, and I am sure that if I hadn’t asked for the condom, she would have allowed total bare back. After more than 1 1/2 hours into the session, the deed was completed. For the next hour she resumed the massage that almost put me to sleep. She gave the very best massage I have had in years. The massage was a legitimate massage that included about 15 minutes on my head that was just spectacular. Toward the end of this massage it got sensual again, and we went on to round two. There was no rush and before I knew it, the 2 ˝ hours were coming to an end.
I will definitely return to OGOTO! This afternoon I intend to visit Darling prior to my red-eye to Europe. Another report to follow.
Girl: Haru 24YO
Face: 8+
Body: 7 with a great natural breasts! A bit of stomach, but not a pot.
Service: 8+
Attitude: Deed 8, massage and after deed service 9+
Thai Baht 3,200 (about US$97) total for 2 hours 30 minutes
WOODMAN
[QUOTE=Whiterabbit1]O.K. I am new here as you can see by report number, but I found this place via a link in google with "Micks Report".(Thanks Mick)
Just a couple of things I have not figure out.
1.) What the hell is a farang? Sounds like an energy drink, but I am guessing some kind of foreigner or outsider maybe? If so why do they get charged more in some places.
2.) Sideline girl, have no clue.
3.) If I just want to stay in my hotel room, what is the recomended way of ordering some room service?
Thanks for all, I will be in bangkok for four days and will put my first hand report here. I want to find a place for this body rub (Thai Massage?), and then some FS. I would also like to be able to do room service to a local hotel, unless you guys don't reccomned this method.[/QUOTE]Hello there, reading a little bit more would have answered your questions. But, since you ask:
1. Farang = You
2. Sideline = girls not in the fishbowl (fishbowl = glass divider between you and the girls)
3. Just call up the massage place nearest your hotel and ask them to send over a girl (most of them do; charges vary based on time of day; early = expensive)
Guys,
So I have done some RTFF but couldn't find where do most of folks end up once they barfine girls from bars around Soi Cowboy. Do most folks go back to their hotels where they have stayed or are there ST options around the area. Next, it seems most girls from gogo bars only want to do ST and not LT. is this true
feedback appriciated by this humble rookie.
Jay
[QUOTE=Whiterabbit1]1.) What the hell is a farang? Sounds like an energy drink, but I am guessing some kind of foreigner or outsider maybe? If so why do they get charged more in some places.
[/QUOTE]Farang is the generic Thai word for a foreigner of European ancestry. We get charged more for visiting museums, etc because (a) we haven't contributed to their upkeep through taxes (Thai people would argue), and (b) because we are generally richer and can afford it.
Clearly (b) is more relevant in the context here.
[QUOTE=Woodman]....
Girl: Haru 24YO
Face: 8+
Body: 7 with a great natural breasts! A bit of stomach, but not a pot.
Service: 8+
Attitude: Deed 8, massage and after deed service 9+
Thai Baht 3,200 (about US$97) total for 2 hours 30 minutes
WOODMAN[/QUOTE]
You should be in the Bangkok MPs thread but no matter. Great detailed report!
[url]http://ogotomassage.client.jp/lady-en.htm[/url]
Those tits do look impressive! :p
I shagged 17 girls recently between Wednesday afternoon and Sunday morning...only 8 of those were working girls..the others were all straight girls and included a german girl a finnish girl and a french girl...unbelievable but true..i thought it was worth posting....this could only happen in Bankok, its an amazing place...
An earlier post was referring to 21 girls in 7 days which led to this post...
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]You should be in the Bangkok MPs thread but no matter. Great detailed report!
[url]http://ogotomassage.client.jp/lady-en.htm[/url]
Those tits do look impressive! :p[/QUOTE]
Great looking girls indeed. But why do they list the Blood Type?
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Great looking girls indeed. But why do they list the Blood Type?[/QUOTE]
Duni,
They have a fair amount of business from Japanese Nationals. In Japan, blood types are often used in the same ways as Astrological signs are used in other cultures. Like Astrological signs, mostly a fun thing, but like everywhere else some take it more seriously than others. It's fading in interest in Japan, so it's probably not much of a selling point.
In case you are interested, here's the blood type chart:
Japanese Blood Type Personality Traits:
[b]Blood Type A[/b]
Positive Traits: Earnest, creative, sensible, calm.
Negative Traits: Fastidious, overearnest.
People with blood type A have a deep-rooted strength that helps them stay calm in a crisis when everyone else is panicking. However, they tend to avoid confrontation, and feel very uncomfortable around people. A types are shy and sometimes withdrawn. They seek harmony and are very polite, but all the same feel that they never really fit in with others. A types are very responsible. If there is a job to be done, they prefer to take care of it themselves. These people crave success and are perfectionists. They are also very creative, and the most artistic of all the blood types, most likely because of their sensitivity.
[b]Blood Type B[/b]
Postive Traits: Wild, a doer, cheerful.
Negative Traits: Selfish, irresponsible, arrogant.
People with blood type B are the most practical of the blood groups. They are specialists in what they do. When they start a project, they spend extra time understanding and trying to follow directions than others might. When they are doing something, all of their attention is focused on it. They tend to stick to a goal and follow it through to the end, even if it seems impossible. They tend to be less than cooperative, as they like to follow their own rules and their own ideas. They are individualists. B type people pay attention to their thoughts a little more than their feelings, and therefore can sometimes seem cold and serious.
[b]Blood Type AB[/b]
Positive Traits: Cool, controlled, rational.
Negative Traits: Critical, indecisive.
People with blood type AB are hard to categorize. They can have characteristics on both ends of the spectrum at the same time. For instance, they are both shy and outgoing. They easily switch from one opposite to another. AB people are trustworthy and responsible, but can't handle it when too much is asked of them. They don't mind doing favors or helping out, as long as its on their own conditions. People with this blood type are interested in art and metaphysics.
AB is considered the worst blood type. In predictability-loving Japan, they're loose cannons. They also like to set their own conditions and reserve the right to drop out when things don't meet their expectations. They're known to be sensitive and considerate—at times—but it just isn't enough to balance out the flaws in this blood type. For a while, some companies tried dividing their employees into work groups based on blood type, and no one wanted to work with the AB group. Anime villains are likely to be type AB.
[b]Blood Type O[/b]
Positive Traits: Agreeable, sociable, an optimist.
Negative Traits: Vain, careless, ruthless.
People with blood type O people are outgoing, energetic and social. They are the most flexible of the blood types. They easily start up projects but often have trouble following through because they give up easily. They are flighty and not too dependable. O types always say what's on their mind. They value the opinion of others and like to be the center of attention. Also, people with O blood are extremely self-confident.
Compatibility Chart:
A is most compatible with A and AB.
B is most compatible with B and AB.
AB is most compatible with AB, B, A, and O.
O is most compatible with O and AB.
Just a bit of trivia, I guess. The things you can find on the internet these days! LOL! How this affects the girls or your performance in bed? Who knows? Try one of each blood type and let us know how it goes! LOL! Better yet, try a threesome, but make sure you are all compatible types!
AT2
[QUOTE=Whiterabbit1]O.K. I am new here as you can see by report number, but I found this place via a link in google with "Micks Report".(Thanks Mick)
Just a couple of things I have not figure out.
1.) What the hell is a farang? Sounds like an energy drink, but I am guessing some kind of foreigner or outsider maybe? If so why do they get charged more in some places.
2.) Sideline girl, have no clue.
3.) If I just want to stay in my hotel room, what is the recomended way of ordering some room service?
Thanks for all, I will be in bangkok for four days and will put my first hand report here. I want to find a place for this body rub (Thai Massage?), and then some FS. I would also like to be able to do room service to a local hotel, unless you guys don't reccomned this method.[/QUOTE]
As you surmised, the term farang does refer to foreigners and as Mouse1 explained, those of European ancestry. I'm Asian American, and I have never been charged the farang surcharge. I'm seen as Asian and the fact that I could have been born in Europe or the U.S. does not enter the pricing equation. I know there's a lot of theories on this (could fill a book), but why bother. It is what it is, and as silly a policy as it is, it won't change until it starts to cost them too much money.
The Sideline girls and Models, are those girls outside the fishbowls sitting on the seats against the wall or on couches, or in the in-house lounge/bar area. They command a higher price. I think you need to decide yourself, whether there's a real difference or not. In theory, they are higher in demand due to looks or "abilities", but often times that may not hold true. The models have posed in men's magazines in Asia, but most guys would not know the difference.
Many of the "old" girls and that's a relative term, since we are talking about 30 year olds, are priced at a discount and I have had great times with some of these ladies. They are normally in their own section within the fishbowls. Too many variables. Just pick one that strikes your fancy. Each Soapy massage place has their own pricing system and they are more than happy to explain it to you.
For hotel service, you can spend the first few days getting contacts (business cards and phone numbers) from bargirls or massage parlors or use contact info from the internet. I would stick to the girls from the massage parlors over the "Escort" services. The Escort services tend to charge 6,000 baht for the same girl you could get from a massage parlor for about 2,000 baht. The massage parlor will charge you the going massage rate (between 600 baht and 1,300 baht .. approximately), based on the amount of time you need (generally 60, 90 and 120 minutes). The girl will ask for between 1,500 and 3,000 baht for her services. That's "ask". The going rate for FS is 1,500 baht.
Most of the girls who ask for 3,000 baht will most often settle for 1,500 to 2,000 baht, so just keep this in mind. The same holds true in all of the bars these days. In Nana Plaza (NEP), Soi Cowboy, Patpong, etc. it's not unusual to have these girls ask for 3,000 baht or 4,000 baht and then quickly drop to 2,000 baht when you laugh or walk. They take their chances that you may be a newbie and accept the initial offer.
The hotels often have an in-house "Spa". Some legit, many with girls willing to offer "extra" services. Very hit and miss, though, and most of the massage parlors have better pickings IMHO. Plus, having the pics on the websites, offers you a chance to choose one to your liking.
Good luck!
AT2
[QUOTE=Whiterabbit1]O.K. I am new here as you can see by report number, but I found this place via a link in google with "Micks Report".(Thanks Mick)
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3.) If I just want to stay in my hotel room, what is the recommended way of ordering some room service?
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These places and many more, offer a takeout option:
Tulip Masssage: 806/2-3 Sukhumvit Road (Thonglor BTS station)
Phrakanong, Bangkok 0-2391-7564, 0-2381-2349
I thought Tulip had a website, but can't seem to find it.
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Giotto's place ... aka Livingstones Lodge, has girls on premises (barfine system). The Luxury hotel has a good on premise massage parlor, some of the bigger hotels like the Conrad, have freelancer action. You won't need to leave the hotel .. just pick up and back to the room. Other examples are the Windsor hotel basement nightclub, Thermae in the basement of the Ruamchitt hotel, Bar Su at the Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit, Spice Club in the basement of the Ambassador hotel, Concept CM2 in the Novotel hotel, etc.
[url=http://www.luxurybkk.com/spa_massage.php]Luxury Hotel Spa[/url]
[url=http://www.livingstones.co.th/]Livingstone's Lodge[/url]
In all honesty, if you are in any of the hotels on or just off Sukhumvit, between Soi 2 and Soi 33, there will probably be action within a block of the hotel and it may be worth the walk to see what's happening. You are in Bangkok .. enjoy and experience it!
Peace,
AT2
[QUOTE=Cool Jaybabe]Guys,
So I have done some RTFF but couldn't find where do most of folks end up once they barfine girls from bars around Soi Cowboy. Do most folks go back to their hotels where they have stayed or are there ST options around the area. Next, it seems most girls from gogo bars only want to do ST and not LT. is this true
feedback appriciated by this humble rookie.
Jay[/QUOTE]There's a ST hotel in Soi Cowboy - next to Rawhide. I normally take LT only and go back to my hotel.
I'm not sure it's got to the stage where most will only go ST - but it seems to be heading that way.
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Duni,
They have a fair amount of business from Japanese Nationals. In Japan, blood types are often used in the same ways as Astrological signs are used in other cultures. Like Astrological signs, mostly a fun thing, but like everywhere else some take it more seriously than others.
In case you are interested, here's the blood type chart:
Japanese Blood Type Personality Traits:
[b]Blood Type A[/b]
Positive Traits: Earnest, creative, sensible, calm.
Negative Traits: Fastidious, overearnest.
People with blood type A have a deep-rooted strength that helps them stay calm in a crisis when everyone else is panicking. However, they tend to avoid confrontation, and feel very uncomfortable around people. A types are shy and sometimes withdrawn. They seek harmony and are very polite, but all the same feel that they never really fit in with others. A types are very responsible. If there is a job to be done, they prefer to take care of it themselves. These people crave success and are perfectionists. They are also very creative, and the most artistic of all the blood types, most likely because of their sensitivity.
[b]Blood Type B[/b]
Postive Traits: Wild, a doer, cheerful.
Negative Traits: Selfish, irresponsible, arrogant.
People with blood type B are the most practical of the blood groups. They are specialists in what they do. When they start a project, they spend extra time understanding and trying to follow directions than others might. When they are doing something, all of their attention is focused on it. They tend to stick to a goal and follow it through to the end, even if it seems impossible. They tend to be less than cooperative, as they like to follow their own rules and their own ideas. They are individualists. B type people pay attention to their thoughts a little more than their feelings, and therefore can sometimes seem cold and serious.
[b]Blood Type AB[/b]
Positive Traits: Cool, controlled, rational.
Negative Traits: Critical, indecisive.
People with blood type AB are hard to categorize. They can have characteristics on both ends of the spectrum at the same time. For instance, they are both shy and outgoing. They easily switch from one opposite to another. AB people are trustworthy and responsible, but can't handle it when too much is asked of them. They don't mind doing favors or helping out, as long as its on their own conditions. People with this blood type are interested in art and metaphysics.
AB is considered the worst blood type. In predictability-loving Japan, they're loose cannons. They also like to set their own conditions and reserve the right to drop out when things don't meet their expectations. They're known to be sensitive and considerate—at times—but it just isn't enough to balance out the flaws in this blood type. For a while, some companies tried dividing their employees into work groups based on blood type, and no one wanted to work with the AB group. Anime villains are likely to be type AB.
[b]Blood Type O[/b]
Positive Traits: Agreeable, sociable, an optimist.
Negative Traits: Vain, careless, ruthless.
People with blood type O people are outgoing, energetic and social. They are the most flexible of the blood types. They easily start up projects but often have trouble following through because they give up easily. They are flighty and not too dependable. O types always say what's on their mind. They value the opinion of others and like to be the center of attention. Also, people with O blood are extremely self-confident.
Just a bit of trivia, I guess.
AT2[/QUOTE]
Here are my characteristics:
Pessimistic, careless, procrastination, lazy, unsociable, generous, compulsive, disorganised, intellegent, rational, forgiving, helpful, critical, easy going, self-confident.
Guess my Blood Type?
Well only a couple of traits match type O.
So I don't the non Japanese are going to worry about blood typing too much.
Mick and others,
Hey I was checking out the angel 22 and 26 website. Seems like film and rita might have had a sex change. They would not hire transexuals or transvestites, would they? I'm only into real woman.
Also, have you guys ever tried the models at Poseidon? Also, can you guys clarify the pricing structure there. It seems like 2800 for fish bowl girl, I'm assuming that comes with a regular room inlcuded. And I can update to a suite for 1700 or 18, 000 extra for the penthuose (ridiculous). Like I'm going to pay attention to the furniture while I'm being blown and riden.
So bottom line 2800 should cover both the girl and the room?
Also, do Nataree have models category? I only have 2 nights in BKK, hence research and anal retentiveness. Otherwise I'd try them all.
Also, are the girls of the MP tested frequently for HIV and STD's? I'm not talking about the freelancers, I take they are more risky.
Also, anyone know if the Novotel is girl friendly?
Thanks folks, can't wait toget to BK. Some thai girl here in US wants 400 USD/ hr and she would not make the models list at Poseidon or others I suspect. Go LOS!
[QUOTE=Whiterabbit1]
3.) If I just want to stay in my hotel room, what is the recomended way of ordering some room service?
[/QUOTE]
Well call on the phone of course.
But seriously, its mainly first timers that ask this question due to being unfamiliar with the place. Its much better to go out exploring and find the hot girls that you like yourself.
Maps have even been posted showing the bar areas, Oily Massage Parlours, etc.
Your room is just for sleeping. Get out and explore!
Novotel is girl friendly but have to sign a form saying you are responsible for any damage she does and she will have to leave her id at the front desk.
CT
[QUOTE=Bhudda Gonewrong]Mick and others,
Hey I was checking out the angel 22 and 26 website. Seems like film and rita might have had a sex change. They would not hire transexuals or transvestites, would they? I'm only into real woman.[/quote]
No, they would not. Besides, there are so many better options than Film and Rita, so I would not worry about them.
[QUOTE=Bhudda Gonewrong]Also, have you guys ever tried the models at Poseidon? Also, can you guys clarify the pricing structure there. It seems like 2800 for fish bowl girl, I'm assuming that comes with a regular room inlcuded. And I can update to a suite for 1700 or 18, 000 extra for the penthuose (ridiculous). Like I'm going to pay attention to the furniture while I'm being blown and riden.
So bottom line 2800 should cover both the girl and the room? [/quote]
The rates include the room, except for room upgrades, which will cost you extra. All kinds of rooms and all kinds of girls, so work that out when you get there. Too many pricing options at the Soapy's, to remember. There are places like Colonze 2 which start at around 1,700 or 1,800 baht all inclusive. I think the bottom end girls at Poseidon are 2,300 baht all inclusive and sideline girls were at 2,800 all inclusive. A few hundred baht tip is a nice gesture, if you like the performance. The basic rooms are fine at Poseidon and a little smallish at Nataree. I can understand wanting to upgrade, if you only have two days. Enjoy it!
You may want to check out Utopia, rather than Poseidon. I think Poseidon is sliding in quality and Utopia really has some nice talent. Of course Utopia has a steep farang surcharge, but if you are willing to spend, it would seem better to get the hotter girl than splurge on a better room. Something to think about. It's the same stop as Nataree, but you need to catch a cab. It's within walking distance of the Huai Kwang or Cultural Center stops, but you won't know which direction to go or how to find it. Best to find a cabbie who knows where it is.
[QUOTE=Bhudda Gonewrong]
Also, do Nataree have models category? I only have 2 nights in BKK, hence research and anal retentiveness. Otherwise I'd try them all.[/quote]
Not sure of the designations at Nataree, but they have girls starting at 2,000 baht all inclusive up to about 3,800 baht all inclusive. I have received a few freebies from girls at Nataree on their "holidays", so that's a nice bonus. Of course, the freebies did come at the price of a dinner or a day of sightseeing, so nothing is really free! LOL! Still fun though.
[QUOTE=Bhudda Gonewrong]Also, are the girls of the MP tested frequently for HIV and STD's? I'm not talking about the freelancers, I take they are more risky.[/quote]
That's what they say, but really, once you go P4P you are taking risks. I trust the testing thing even less than I trust\believe the "handsum man" or the "I love you" line.
AT2
[QUOTE=Bhudda Gonewrong]Mick and others,
Hey I was checking out the angel 22 and 26 website. Seems like film and rita might have had a sex change. They would not hire transexuals or transvestites, would they? I'm only into real woman.
Also, have you guys ever tried the models at Poseidon? Also, can you guys clarify the pricing structure there. It seems like 2800 for fish bowl girl, I'm assuming that comes with a regular room inlcuded. And I can update to a suite for 1700 or 18, 000 extra for the penthuose (ridiculous). Like I'm going to pay attention to the furniture while I'm being blown and riden.
So bottom line 2800 should cover both the girl and the room?
Also, do Nataree have models category? I only have 2 nights in BKK, hence research and anal retentiveness. Otherwise I'd try them all.
Also, are the girls of the MP tested frequently for HIV and STD's? I'm not talking about the freelancers, I take they are more risky.
Also, anyone know if the Novotel is girl friendly?
Thanks folks, can't wait toget to BK. Some thai girl here in US wants 400 USD/ hr and she would not make the models list at Poseidon or others I suspect. Go LOS![/QUOTE]
Don't get Paranoid! (if that is the right word?).
Film and Rita may not be to your taste but do not look suspicious and we know that these places do not hire lady boys.
Your post seems to indicate you are allowing yourself to get distracted by matters that just are not important.
Lady Boys? Special Rooms? furniture? Models at Nataree etc.? Please concentrate on finding girls that appeal to you.
Bear in minfd that the real girls are often not as pretty as in the picture. You need to see the real girls to make a decision.
Nataree does have different prices so just choose the girl that you think is best value for money to your taste.
I have not chosen a Model upstairs at Poseidon as I did not find them to be facially any prettier than the cheaper girls downstairs, and in my opinion "models" category often give worse service due to laziness. This was my experience with "models" at other venues.
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Duni,
They have a fair amount of business from Japanese Nationals. In Japan, blood types are often used in the same ways as Astrological signs are used in other cultures. Like Astrological signs, mostly a fun thing, but like everywhere else some take it more seriously than others. It's fading in interest in Japan, so it's probably not much of a selling point.
In case you are interested, here's the blood type chart:
Japanese Blood Type Personality Traits:
[b]Blood Type A[/b]
Positive Traits: Earnest, creative, sensible, calm.
Negative Traits: Fastidious, overearnest. .............
AT2[/QUOTE]
Many thanks AT2. I keep learning new things every day.
ML, with those traits, what color is your blood. Doesn't seem to be red. :D
[quote=weatherman]there was one exceptionally spinner outside so i make eye contact and motioned her to join me. her name was mew. we went in and i picked up a water and bought her a drink. we then proceeded upstairs.[/quote]wonder if the same mew indo phile tried last year?
had just had bbbjcim with pim. while drinking at bar mew came down adjusting her top. loved her sexy voice so took her straightaway. got killer topless bbbjcim. wouldve got pim topless but didnt know to ask. didnt know fs was on offer at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] :( would've been better start to trip.
pim was having a pretty smile but very quiet.
mew was much better.
must return to bkk soon. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] + mew + fs behind curtain = :)
Duniawala or anyone who is regular and happens to be of SE Indian orgin,
Mate, I am newbie to BKK and consider my first trips to BKK sometime in fall or November. I now live in land of Bush and Chaney but its undeniable of my orgin once you have a look at me that I am not a farang. Well this works very well in Singapore where I mix in with local populus and don't get charged farang surcharge of any sorts, but after RTFF I am bit concern on multiple comments made by people about BKK girls not liking Indian guys. Any truth to it or just it is no different than if you are an arsehole, you get treated like one be it a desi or farang?
Curious to read what you have to say.
Jay
[QUOTE=Cool Jaybabe]Duniawala or anyone who is regular and happens to be of SE Indian orgin,
but after RTFF I am bit concern on multiple comments made by people about BKK girls not liking Indian guys. Any truth to it or just it is no different than if you are an arsehole, you get treated like one be it a desi or farang?
Curious to read what you have to say.
Jay[/QUOTE]
IU am not of SEI origin but let me tell you this:
You should have no problems in the P4P areas, however, Thai people do discriminate and fell superior to (or even dislike) people of darker color. But as I said earlier, P4P ladies have no problem with it and you should be treated very well in most establishments.
[QUOTE=Cool Jaybabe]Duniawala or anyone who is regular and happens to be of SE Indian orgin,
Mate, I am newbie to BKK and consider my first trips to BKK sometime in fall or November. I now live in land of Bush and Chaney but its undeniable of my orgin once you have a look at me that I am not a farang. Well this works very well in Singapore where I mix in with local populus and don't get charged farang surcharge of any sorts, but after RTFF I am bit concern on multiple comments made by people about BKK girls not liking Indian guys. Any truth to it or just it is no different than if you are an arsehole, you get treated like one be it a desi or farang?
Curious to read what you have to say.
Jay[/QUOTE]
Indians tend to have certain generalisations/stereotypes made which are not true for all and can be quite unfair. So as long as you avoid conforming to the unfavourable stereo-types you should be well excepted:
These are:
1. Stingy or very tight with money
2. Not showering often enough or strong body odours.
Thais are very sensitive to odours or uncleanliness.
3. Disrespectful or un-gentlemanly behaviour, such as groping.
Now these labels can be found, but are most unfair to be attached to all Indians in general, just as its unfair for Australians to be known as cheats and people who don't pay their Hotel bills (I am Aussie).
I find that Thai girls are willing to really go for Indian men who are classy. A few years ago I was close to an MP girl (nearly a GF) and her favourite customer was Indian.
So be generous or at least fair, well dressed, clean, fragrant, and well mannered! Good advice or any Monger in Thailand no matter where he comes from!
Then your nationality, religion, skin colour, etc. shouldn't matter.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Indians tend to have certain generalisations/stereotypes made which are not true for all and can be quite unfair. So as long as you avoid conforming to the unfavourable stereo-types you should be well excepted:
These are:
1. Stingy or very tight with money
2. Not showering often enough or strong body odours.
Thais are very sensitive to odours or uncleanliness.
3. Disrespectful or un-gentlemanly behaviour, such as groping.
Now these labels can be found, but are most unfair to be attached to all Indians in general, just as its unfair for Australians to be known as cheats and people who don't pay their Hotel bills (I am Aussie).
I find that Thai girls are willing to really go for Indian men who are classy. A few years ago I was close to an MP girl (nearly a GF) and her favourite customer was Indian.
So be generous or at least fair, well dressed, clean, fragrant, and well mannered! Good advice or any Monger in Thailand no matter where he comes from!
Then your nationality, religion, skin colour, etc. shouldn't matter.[/QUOTE]
...and in fact, these comments are valid anywhere in the world, or at least where I have mongered ( Japan, Singapore, BKK, Tijuana, London, FKKs etc...)
[QUOTE=Cool Jaybabe]Duniawala or anyone who is regular and happens to be of SE Indian orgin,
Mate, I am newbie to BKK and consider my first trips to BKK sometime in fall or November. I now live in land of Bush and Chaney but its undeniable of my orgin once you have a look at me that I am not a farang. Well this works very well in Singapore where I mix in with local populus and don't get charged farang surcharge of any sorts, but after RTFF I am bit concern on multiple comments made by people about BKK girls not liking Indian guys. Any truth to it or just it is no different than if you are an arsehole, you get treated like one be it a desi or farang?
Curious to read what you have to say.
Jay[/QUOTE]
ML hit it right on the head. In my years of traveling I have had good and bad experiences. The good far more than bad. The basic rule is MONEY TALKS.
As far as the bad goes it is more likely to do the physique. I am big and have a big pum pui. Some girls don't like that, but there are others who love to put their heads on it and sleep.
Being rejected because of color has been rare, but it does happen. E.g. in the Thermae where all the good looking ones are lined up to snag a few Japanese'.
A lot of Indians have a tendency to bargain. Which is fine except when you take it too far. Remember that the other party has eat as well. So pay going rates and give a tip if you were happy with the service. A few hundred bahts is not going to hurt you but mean a lot to them.
If you and the girl get along well, take her to dinner (roadside cafe's on Suk is good enough). Establish a rapport. Don't have to buy her gold either. Just being kind goes a long way. I have a few regulars who have helped me get great prices which I could never get on my own.
Take regular baths and wear nice clothes. Doesn't have to be tuxes, but in the evening don't wear shorts. Use good aftershave and colognes. Not the el cheapo ones.
Have respect for them and their cultures and you will get plenty in return. In my experience, once they like you they go out of their way to help.
So visit LOS and have a good time.
i thought that this information might be useful as a warning more than anything about how easy it is to potentially be caught with an **** girl, no matter how experienced you are.
a few months ago a european bar owner (very experienced with more than 10 years under his belt) took on a couple of new girls to work in his bar. both he and his customers all thought that the girls were about 18 or 19, and most of the customers were expats/long term residents who had been around the block a couple of times. the girls of course all had id cards showing that their ages were above 18.
the girls had supposedly just arrived from up country and supposedly were fairly naive and innocent.
one of the customers was having a bit of a grope and was a little surprised that his girl was bald (not shaven). now there are quite a few asian girls who are naturally hairless but it was enough to cause the bar owner to do a back ground check, only to find that the girls were all 15. fortunately this was discovered before anyone had bar fined them but given the mood that the police are in nowadays it could have been very nasty for someone. the girls were obviously given their marching orders immediately with a sort of collective feeling of there but for the grace of god go i!
now i know that these girls are working elsewhere as i have seen them from time to time but despite the fact that i have been around asia for more than 20 years i can assure you that i would not think twice about taking one of them and certainly would not suspect that they were too young, especially after a couple of beers in a dark bar.
i won't say where in bangkok this happened partly to protect the bar owner, but more importantly not to advertise their availability to the sort of person who is into that.
just be careful, this is apparently not uncommon and whilst you might get away with a 17 year old with a fake id, you sure as hell wouldn't with a 15 year old.
if in doubt, run a mile, quickly!
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[QUOTE=Cool Jaybabe]Duniawala or anyone who is regular and happens to be of SE Indian orgin,
Mate, I am newbie to BKK and consider my first trips to BKK sometime in fall or November. I now live in land of Bush and Chaney but its undeniable of my orgin once you have a look at me that I am not a farang. Well this works very well in Singapore where I mix in with local populus and don't get charged farang surcharge of any sorts, but after RTFF I am bit concern on multiple comments made by people about BKK girls not liking Indian guys. Any truth to it or just it is no different than if you are an arsehole, you get treated like one be it a desi or farang?
Curious to read what you have to say.
Jay[/QUOTE]It shouldn't be a problem as long as you behave human and polite. The Thai girls you are referring must have had bad experiences with Indian suckers (b.t.w. I am of North-Indian origin).
As you will find out, BKK is cheaper than SGP.
One thing I didn't find as such in BKK (apart maybe from the Japanese Clubs) are the many KTV's from SGP. The G-Clubs in BKK come closest but yet they are different.
Another difference is the ethnicity of the ladies. In SGP you could find Chinese, Malays, Indo's, Indians, Thais, Viets. In BKK you'll have to do it with only Thais.
Fellow Mongers,
Going back to Bangkok in a month or so for a couple of days and wanted some advice on good places other than Cowboy, Nana etc. I have been in Thailand around 10 times and am tired of the tourist zones. I have a Thai girlfriend who is open to threesomes and I wanted advice on where to go outside of the regualr places.
Any advice would be much appreciated
[QUOTE=Marcusbkk]... he and his customers all thought that the girls were about 18 or 19, and most of the customers were expats/long term residents who had been around the block a couple of times. The girls of course all had ID cards showing that their ages were above 18.
If in doubt, run a mile, quickly!
[/QUOTE]
Happily I find when I peruse the offerings on Sukhumvit they all look to be in their late thirties/early fourties. Well, maybe that's not so happy.
i arrived late last night from america via a quick connection through narita. it was a bumpy ride at 38,000 feet, jetting through the pre-monsoonal skies of se asia. i often think that those airbus 320s flex a lot more than the big boeings, but maybe it’s just my ambien hazed imagination?
back on thai soil, it was smooth sailing all the way through the extensive swampiboom maze. i only wish that american homeland security chumps were as nice to me when i passed through their gate a few weeks before (and i’m a citizen!).
my departure level taxi ride to livingstone’s lodge was extremely painless (and only 177 baht with no motorway tolls). planning ahead, i’d already called my favorite sabai sabai massage girl from the airport. "you working? want to meet me at 2am?" i must be on her speed dial as she sounded genuinely happy to hear from me. “sure, no problem! same hotel?” more likely, it was just a very slow night in a very slow, low season city of angels.
arriving right on time and a little drunk, my flexible massage friend especially liked the toys that i brought to entertain her with from the san francisco lesbian hardware store. but i must admit that if you want to score big points with your favorite thai lady, a sex toy or two will go a long way. expressing sincere gratitude ("i’m happy you’re happy, etc., etc."), my sweet girl with the fast fingers and cool tattoos left at about 4am with a good tip and a smile. needless to say, i slept like a dead man until noon!
after taking a walk down soi 24 and snapping a few photos, my next pressing appointment, (at 5 pm), was at sazanka for the full meal, massage deal with another of my favorite practitioners of the ancient art of horizontal pleasures. there is nothing better for jet lag than a salt rub, a hot massage and an energetic finish. this particular girl, (recommended by a fellow isg member), really knows her stuff on all accounts. and, man, i am really clean!
right now i am sitting here finishing a tasty bowl of tum kha gai by the pool at livingstone’s. there’s a cool breeze blowing and, between thunder booms and lightning flashes, i can hear the music drifting out of the sports bar. tonight is "jungle night" and all the lovely ladies are (almost) dressed in skimpy animal print outfits. dinner was great and the night is young. possibly the dead will rise again later this evening?
the very friendly livingstone’s lodge is fast becoming my favorite bangkok destination. and, those very lovely soi 33 ladies make me feel so wanted as i walk by. ah, bangkok.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Right now I am sitting here finishing a tasty bowl of Tum Kha Gai by the pool at Livingstone’s. There’s a cool breeze blowing and, between thunder booms and lightning flashes, I can hear the music drifting out of the Sports Bar. Tonight is "jungle night" and all the lovely ladies are (almost) dressed in skimpy animal print outfits. Dinner was great and the night is young. Possibly the dead will rise again later this evening?
The very friendly Livingstone’s Lodge is fast being my favorite Bangkok destination. And, all those lovely Soi 33 ladies make me feel so very wanted as I walk by. Ah, Bangkok.[/QUOTE]
And I just sat at the next table to you through the entire dinner.... ;)
Too bad Auntie told you I was the reason it was raining and did not introduce us.
[quote=fon tok]i arrived late last night from america via a quick connection through narita. it was a bumpy ride at 38, 000 feet, jetting through the pre-monsoonal skies of se asia. i often think that those airbus 320s flex a lot more than the big boeings, but maybe it’s just my ambien hazed imagination?
back on thai soil, it was smooth sailing all the way through the extensive swampiboom maze. i only wish that american homeland security chumps were as nice to me when i passed through their gate a few weeks before (and i’m a citizen! ).
my departure level taxi ride to livingstone’s lodge was extremely painless (and only 177 baht with no motorway tolls). planning ahead, i’d already called my favorite sabai sabai massage girl from the airport. "you working? want to meet me at 2am? " i must be on her speed dial as she sounded genuinely happy to hear from me. "sure, no problem! same hotel? " more likely, it was just a very slow night in a very slow, low season city of angels.
arriving right on time and a little drunk, my flexible massage friend especially liked the toys that i brought to entertain her with from the san francisco lesbian hardware store. but i must admit that if you want to score big points with your favorite thai lady, a sex toy or two will go a long way. expressing sincere gratitude ("i’m happy you’re happy, etc. , etc. "), my sweet girl with the fast fingers and cool tattoos left at about 4am with a good tip and a smile. needless to say, i slept like a dead man until noon!
after taking a walk down soi 24 and snapping a few photos, my next pressing appointment, (at 5 pm), was at sazanka for the full meal, massage deal with another of my favorite practitioners of the ancient art of horizontal pleasures. there is nothing better for jet lag than a salt rub, a hot massage and an energetic finish. this particular girl, (recommended by a fellow isg member), really knows her stuff on all accounts. and, man, i am really clean!
right now i am sitting here finishing a tasty bowl of tum kha gai by the pool at livingstone’s. there’s a cool breeze blowing and, between thunder booms and lightning flashes, i can hear the music drifting out of the sports bar. tonight is "jungle night" and all the lovely ladies are (almost) dressed in skimpy animal print outfits. dinner was great and the night is young. possibly the dead will rise again later this evening?
the very friendly livingstone’s lodge is fast being my favorite bangkok destination. and, all those lovely soi 33 ladies make me feel so very wanted as i walk by. ah, bangkok. [/quote]dear fon tok,
i will be in bkk in 14 days and i realy enjoied your report. i am planning to go also to sabi sabi an i love good performers esecial if they have a tattoo, i love them. so could you tell the name of your recomandation or faforite?
and can you tell me a little abote sazanka, sounds interesting.
thanks in advance!
will
[QUOTE=Will Smith69]So could you tell the name of your recomandation or faforite? And can you tell me a little abote Sazanka, sounds interesting. Thanks in advance! Will[/QUOTE]
Lots of info about Sazanka on this board and other sites. Just do a search. Great spot, but no FS (unless you're special). It's very close to Livingstone's and the Emporium but a little hard to find the first time. Also, if you PM me I'll send you my Sabai Sabai girl's name. Don't want to wear her cute little tush out...
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]And I just sat at the next table to you through the entire dinner.... ;) Too bad Auntie told you I was the reason it was raining and did not introduce us.[/QUOTE]
Were you the guy with the long white hair and beard, golden staff, wearing the white Toga?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Were you the guy with the long white hair and beard, golden staff, wearing the white Toga?[/QUOTE]
Yeah right... I was the fat guy sitting at the table behind you with a girl and two of her friends from the bar.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Too bad Auntie told you I was the reason it was raining and did not introduce us.[/QUOTE]We missed each other again LOL. I promise to be meeting you on your next trip ;)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]We missed each other again LOL. I promise to be meeting you on your next trip ;)[/QUOTE]We are destined to never meet ;) Not sure what will happen now with the TGF but the next trip is Aug as it stands now but might not stay in town. So maybe next year if not August.
Gents, can anyone remind me of the name of a bar opposite NEP. Night and day? Something like that?
Rookie question for all you long timers.
Hopefully I will be making first of many trips to LOS later in the year. What would you suggest as first destination BKK or Pattaya. I read through forum and can't seem to make up my mind. Primary activity if mongering ofcourse but need to have enough other R&R for relaxing vacation.
[QUOTE=NetDynamic]Gents, can anyone remind me of the name of a bar opposite NEP. Night and day? Something like that?[/QUOTE]
"Morning Night" is just near NEP but not opposite.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]"Morning Night" is just near NEP but not opposite.[/QUOTE]
Opposite NEP is GOLDEN BEER BAR.
Hi guys,
We are a mixed couple 40/26 - she is asian - nice - kinky and submissive - we are 23 days in town and looking for a nightlife guide who is also willing to party with some boys, girls and ladyboys.
She has experience in GB and many other things - we want to go to a club like eden-club or some fetish bars/clubs tonight. If you like to join us tonight or tomorrow evening drop me a line with possibly a picture.
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I often walk by Lumphini Park and see a few girls working nearby Ratchamadri/BTS station. Who do they mainly cater to?. The taxi drivers and mainly Thais?
Hi guys,
I will be visiting Bangkok 4-7th August, first time after entering adulthood.
I've read 5-10 pages worth of posts between Bangkok, Bankok MP and AT2's FAQs.
The main reason for my visit to Bangkok is to meet a GF that we got connected when she was in Beijing. She is not in the scene, so my daytime in Bangkok will be free while she is at work.
I am a Malaysian Chinese, I can speak English/Chinese/etc, but no Thai. My flight arrives late on 4th, and leaving evening on 7th.
My questions are:
1) Are there any MPs that are good during daytime? I've read that Tulip is nice. What about getting soapy?
2) When I was young (<18). I went to Bangkok with my parents. During night time, the adults will all go see these adult performance, they refer to as "Tiger Shows" back then. What are they called now? I described it to my GF, and she said she saw them, and it was bad taste. Any good suggestions where to go? (ful-filling childhood dream)
3) According to Mick at the Bangkok hotel thread, where I live (Sathorn rd) is very far away from the actions. Anyone recomend any call-in service, or within walking distance?
4) Anyone recomend any non-sex related place to go? I need some rest between MPs and GF at night (she knows I am there to fuck her).
5) I read about farang charge. Does that only applies to Caucasians? Or just foreigner in general?
I first wanted to just PM a few people I know, but decided that posting here would benefit more members that is looking for similar solution.
Thanks, and safe hunting.
PS: Type in notepad! I lost my initial post which is more witty and interesting. I can't reproduce them now. :(
[QUOTE=K Zero]Hi guys,
I will be visiting Bangkok 4-7th August, first time after entering adulthood.
I've read 5-10 pages worth of posts between Bangkok, Bankok MP and AT2's FAQs.
The main reason for my visit to Bangkok is to meet a GF that we got connected when she was in Beijing. She is not in the scene, so my daytime in Bangkok will be free while she is at work.
I am a Malaysian Chinese, I can speak English/Chinese/etc, but no Thai. My flight arrives late on 4th, and leaving evening on 7th.
My questions are:
1) Are there any MPs that are good during daytime? I've read that Tulip is nice. What about getting soapy?
2) When I was young (<18). I went to Bangkok with my parents. During night time, the adults will all go see these adult performance, they refer to as "Tiger Shows" back then. What are they called now? I described it to my GF, and she said she saw them, and it was bad taste. Any good suggestions where to go? (ful-filling childhood dream)
3) According to Mick at the Bangkok hotel thread, where I live (Sathorn rd) is very far away from the actions. Anyone recomend any call-in service, or within walking distance?
4) Anyone recomend any non-sex related place to go? I need some rest between MPs and GF at night (she knows I am there to fuck her).
5) I read about farang charge. Does that only applies to Caucasians? Or just foreigner in general?
I first wanted to just PM a few people I know, but decided that posting here would benefit more members that is looking for similar solution.
Thanks, and safe hunting.
PS: Type in notepad! I lost my initial post which is more witty and interesting. I can't reproduce them now. :([/QUOTE]Hi Champ,
1) I have had great succes at "Nataree" and "Catherine". "Nataree" is very easy to reach by the train MRT. [url]http://www.soapy-massage.com/nataree-bath-house-massage-ratchadapisek-road.html[/url]
The rooms are a bit run down, but they have some stunners among the sideliners.
Catherine is a bit more complicated. I would sugest you take the MRT to "Prah Ram 9" station, exit 3. From there you take a taxi or a bike. Simply ask them to go to "Ca-the-rine". If you like girls not to experienced, this is the place. Place is nice and the captains gives you good time to choose.
4: Snake Farm. show at 2 o'clock
The Aquarium underneath "Siam" [url]http://www.siamoceanworld.co.th/[/url]
Grand Palace
Weekend market
ECT
5: The word Farang is used, to discribe a "western looking" person
[quote=fon tok]i arrived late last night from america via a quick connection through narita. it was a bumpy ride at 38,000 feet, jetting through the pre-monsoonal skies of se asia. i often think that those airbus 320s flex a lot more than the big boeings, but maybe it’s just my ambien hazed imagination?
back on thai soil, it was smooth sailing all the way through the extensive swampiboom maze. i only wish that american homeland security chumps were as nice to me when i passed through their gate a few weeks before (and i’m a citizen!).
my departure level taxi ride to livingstone’s lodge was extremely painless (and only 177 baht with no motorway tolls). planning ahead, i’d already called my favorite sabai sabai massage girl from the airport. "you working? want to meet me at 2am?" i must be on her speed dial as she sounded genuinely happy to hear from me. “sure, no problem! same hotel?” more likely, it was just a very slow night in a very slow, low season city of angels.
arriving right on time and a little drunk, my flexible massage friend especially liked the toys that i brought to entertain her with from the san francisco lesbian hardware store. but i must admit that if you want to score big points with your favorite thai lady, a sex toy or two will go a long way. expressing sincere gratitude ("i’m happy you’re happy, etc., etc."), my sweet girl with the fast fingers and cool tattoos left at about 4am with a good tip and a smile. needless to say, i slept like a dead man until noon!
after taking a walk down soi 24 and snapping a few photos, my next pressing appointment, (at 5 pm), was at sazanka for the full meal, massage deal with another of my favorite practitioners of the ancient art of horizontal pleasures. there is nothing better for jet lag than a salt rub, a hot massage and an energetic finish. this particular girl, (recommended by a fellow isg member), really knows her stuff on all accounts. and, man, i am really clean!
right now i am sitting here finishing a tasty bowl of tum kha gai by the pool at livingstone’s. there’s a cool breeze blowing and, between thunder booms and lightning flashes, i can hear the music drifting out of the sports bar. tonight is "jungle night" and all the lovely ladies are (almost) dressed in skimpy animal print outfits. dinner was great and the night is young. possibly the dead will rise again later this evening?
the very friendly livingstone’s lodge is fast becoming my favorite bangkok destination. and, those very lovely soi 33 ladies make me feel so wanted as i walk by. ah, bangkok.[/quote]i totally agree. livingstone is a favorite!
very cool and friendly staff working there
close to skytrain
restaurant and sportsbar
no noise from the city
a favorite :-)
[QUOTE=K Zero]
3) According to Mick at the Bangkok hotel thread, where I live (Sathorn rd) is very far away from the actions. Anyone recomend any call-in service, or within walking distance?
[/QUOTE]
You are not that far from Pat Pong. In that area I visit Star of Light in morning now and then. this is where get a BJ in the public bar.
Pat Pong bars like Queens Castle have shows at night too.
I'm not sure exactly what is "Tiger Show"?
Good Soapies in the area are Infinity JC and Versailles.
But not walking distance. Catch the BTS sky train to Saladaeng
See the Soapies Map.
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.724669,100.524602&spn=0.056365,0.066175&z=14[/url]
"Just be careful, this is apparently not uncommon and whilst you might get away with a 17 year old with a fake ID, you sure as hell wouldn't with a 15 year old.
If in doubt, run a mile, quickly!"
A few months ago a friend took a girl out of a bar in Soi Cowboy who we had both admired for her rather amazing body and lovely curves. He beat me to her though. He gets back to the hotel with her and there is a longish discussion in Thai at the guard station between the girl and guards when she hands in her I.D. But eventually things are over and up they go and they have some typical fun. The next day he asks the guard what the problem was and at that point the guard tells him the ID said the girl was 16. Why they let her up I don't know - but he turned white as a sheet and felt like he had dodged a potentially very nasty bullet. It hadn't occurred to either of us that she was that young - we both guessed 20 or so.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]You are not that far from Pat Pong. In that area I visit Star of Light in morning now and then. this is where get a BJ in the public bar.
Pat Pong bars like Queens Castle have shows at night too.
I'm not sure exactly what is "Tiger Show"?
Good Soapies in the area are Infinity JC and Versailles.
But not walking distance. Catch the BTS sky train to Saladaeng
See the Soapies Map.
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.724669,100.524602&spn=0.056365,0.066175&z=14[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the soapy map.
If I recall correctly, the "tiger shows" are shows where women do amazing things with their private parts, and some erotic performance.
Whats BJ at public bar? If i recall, a few of the reports I read, is that you pick a girl and go to some room JUST behind a layer of curtain, and get a BJ?
[QUOTE=K Zero]Thanks for the soapy map.
If I recall correctly, the "tiger shows" are shows where women do amazing things with their private parts, and some erotic performance.
Whats BJ at public bar? If i recall, a few of the reports I read, is that you pick a girl and go to some room JUST behind a layer of curtain, and get a BJ?[/QUOTE]
O.K. Queen's Castle it is!
I do not find these shows to be erotic myself.
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.730057,100.532541&spn=0.007045,0.008272&z=17[/url]
[url]http://www.singletravel.com/bkknight/patpong.htm#SexShows[/url]
[url]http://www.bangkokeyes.com/mappat1.html[/url]
[url]http://www.cityphotoguide.com/image/tid/42[/url]
[url]http://guide.2thebigmango.com/thailand/bangkok/bars/gogo_bars/silom/patpong/queens-castle-1-gogo/[/url]
Long Gun at Soi Cowboy but it is not close to you .
Mick,
Thanks, you are like wikipedia of Bangkok, let me buy you a drink when I get there.
Also, thanks to all that replied.
"Tiger Shows" is a common term used by Singaporeans and Malaysians for "Live sex" shows.
You know the type, rip off upstairs Patpong joint.
Avoid them!
[QUOTE=K Zero]Thanks for the soapy map.
If I recall correctly, the "tiger shows" are shows where women do amazing things with their private parts, and some erotic performance.
Whats BJ at public bar? If i recall, a few of the reports I read, is that you pick a girl and go to some room JUST behind a layer of curtain, and get a BJ?[/QUOTE]
I went to BKK on business a few years ago. Had an awsome time. I tried a few MPs, they are awesome. Tip for newbies to Bangkok: The cabbies and hotel limo drivers get a cut of the action. You get better price if you walk in on your own. Just have the cabbies drive you to the general vicinity.
Also tried Nana Plaza. Got a pretty hot 18 year old and had a good time.
After a few days, I met a woman that teaches massage. She introduced me to one of her students (riiiight. A stooodent). Nice looking Cambodian girl. Worked out a deal for $150 for two weeks.
This was a real GFE. It is hard to tell if these girls like you, or are just damn good at their jobs. I'd leave for work and give her the keys to the room (valuables locked in the hotel safe). She'd ask what time I was coming home. I'd get home she would have a hot bath waiting for me (with her in it too! ) She even took care of my laundry (I didn't even ask her).
Every night, she would want to sleep in my arms. If I moved during the night, she would reposition herself to be in my arms. This was nice, but could be dangerous. I have PTSD from my military service and sometimes wake up suddenly ready to fight. It happened once or twice over there.
Thank God I was able to get myself under control, and never hurt her (just scared her a bit). She didn't speak much English, so it was hard to explain. I later explained it to her "teacher" who explained it to her. She was very understanding and would try to comfort me whenever I had a flashback.
It was nice having good sex several times per night and waking up to a nice blowjob every morning!
[quote=meatman]i often walk by lumphini park and see a few girls working nearby ratchamadri/bts station. who do they mainly cater to?. the taxi drivers and mainly thais?[/quote]
mm,
whilst i have never tried them myself, some of them are rather tasty but beware as there are 2 types of working girls there. most of them are students part-timing and they have their boyfriends waiting nearby. their charges range between thb500-thb1000.
the ones standing on the main radjadamri road and those in front of the suan lum night bazaar side have boyfriends waiting for them. one of my thai friends had his wallet pinched and the girl did a runner when he was in the shower.
the other line up on the soi sarasin side usualy are solo workers with no boyfriends waiting. the large majority are st only as they are either working or studying during the day. you may not be able to gauge their true age, so the risk of **** is very high and also that most of them may not be the type to go for their regular medical check-ups.
hope this satisfy your curiosity and my thai friends usually discourage this p4ps, however i have also seen some bmw x5s and volvo xc90s do some pick-up there.
i do however have seen some very quality looking providers there and i am still surveying.
fd
[QUOTE=Easy2007]"Tiger Shows" is a common term used by Singaporeans and Malaysians for "Live sex" shows.
You know the type, rip off upstairs Patpong joint.
Avoid them![/QUOTE]
The term "tiger show" IMHO started in Malaysia and Singapore during the cabaret days in the late sixties and early seventies, when you had performers like Rose Chan and her troupe performing at the cabarets (Pertama Cabaret in KL) or at certain type of amusement parks. The troupe also travels to major cities in the sixties. Those were the days in Malaysia when the bars had great hostess and well dressed mamasan and you would have a regular performer to do a strip tease ( a good one) usually to the tune ""Rose , Rose , I love You"".
Rose Chan was the most famous of them with her DDs (unusual for chinese in those days). I hear of their stories (from freinds) and how so many married men sneak off with the friends to watch them and was the fantasy of many men whilst in bed.
Whilst in the context of Thailand, some of the shows at Long Gun and some of the Patpong shows will be what K Zero is looking for and you no longer have the same quality long tease strip shows as today's generation wants everything "instant". My 2 cents.
FD
[QUOTE=Fun Dog]
I do however have seen some very quality looking providers there and I am still surveying.
FD[/QUOTE]
What time of night are they usually out? From when to when, about?
[QUOTE=Easy2007]"Tiger Shows" is a common term used by Singaporeans and Malaysians for "Live sex" shows.
You know the type, rip off upstairs Patpong joint.
Avoid them![/QUOTE]
I recommended non-rip-off bars.
Queens Castle and Long Gun seem honest enough to me.
However I don'y like the shows and I find certain staff too pushy (but this could apply to almost any bar).
The "Big Mango" has a reasonable Google Map
showing Soapies, some Oilies, Bars, ST Hotels, etc.
[url]http://guide.2thebigmango.com/city-map-guide/[/url]
[QUOTE=Wendella]What time of night are they usually out? From when to when, about?[/QUOTE]
They are out from 9ish onwards and sometimes late into the night. You will see them standing along the pavement from the begining of Lumpini Park fringe from Radjamdari Road onwards once you past Baan Ratchadamri which is on your left. As you know Lumpini Park is a square where Radchamdari, Rama IV, Suan Luam side and Soi Sarasin bordering the whole park.(I stand corrrected as to the name of the roads but you will know what I mean once you start cruising around the park's road border. Just drive around and you will see some spaghetti strap long hair beauties standing. YMMV.
FD
[QUOTE=Cool Jaybabe]Rookie question for all you long timers.
Hopefully I will be making first of many trips to LOS later in the year. What would you suggest as first destination BKK or Pattaya. I read through forum and can't seem to make up my mind. Primary activity if mongering ofcourse but need to have enough other R&R for relaxing vacation.[/QUOTE]I have been to BKK 6 times in last 2 yrs. I have not been to Pattaya. But can tell you from my limited experience, staying in Sukhumvit at a girl friendly hotel between Asok and Nana BTS stations is a "no brainer" for mongering. My advice though, especially if you are on a budget and are really looking to have a great time with 20-something, willing and friendly girls is this. Simply set out from your hotel after 10pm and walk on Sukhumvit anywhere from Soi 4 to Soi 18 or so. Anywhere along the way and/or down any Soi you will find truly scores of girls. You can negotiate too. The later in the evening (after 10/11/12.) the better the price. (some may read this and think I am a cheapskate. But times are tough all over! ) I just returned and after a short trip to Saigon (HCMC. Hated it! ) had only 3 days this time in BKK. Met my regular girl (actually I would classify as MILF. 33 yo expert at BBDT with CIT [cum in throat]) twice. Then the last night fell asleep early and woke up at 12 AM. Down to the street for a smoke and a short walkabout. Picked up a petite smiling young lady from Issan. She indicate DT, Anal, everything. All for 800 THB for LT! Was she a supermodel? NO! Did she exceed all expectations and with enthusiasm and a smile on her face for 4 hrs? YES! The best part was her deep throat skills with he tight bottom in my face while insisting on three of my finger fucking her ass. Anyway, I could go on but just wanted to add my encouragement. Have a great time!
[QUOTE=Marstop]I have been to BKK 6 times in last 2 yrs. I have not been to Pattaya. But can tell you from my limited experience, staying in Sukhumvit at a girl friendly hotel between Asok and Nana BTS stations is a "no brainer" for mongering. My advice though, especially if you are on a budget and are really looking to have a great time with 20-something, willing and friendly girls is this. Simply set out from your hotel after 10pm and walk on Sukhumvit anywhere from Soi 4 to Soi 18 or so. Anywhere along the way and/or down any Soi you will find truly scores of girls. You can negotiate too. The later in the evening (after 10/11/12.) the better the price. (some may read this and think I am a cheapskate. But times are tough all over! ) I just returned and after a short trip to Saigon (HCMC. Hated it! ) had only 3 days this time in BKK. Met my regular girl (actually I would classify as MILF. 33 yo expert at BBDT with CIT [cum in throat]) twice. Then the last night fell asleep early and woke up at 12 AM. Down to the street for a smoke and a short walkabout. Picked up a petite smiling young lady from Issan. She indicate DT, Anal, everything. All for 800 THB for LT! Was she a supermodel? NO! Did she exceed all expectations and with enthusiasm and a smile on her face for 4 hrs? YES! The best part was her deep throat skills with he tight bottom in my face while insisting on three of my finger fucking her ass. Anyway, I could go on but just wanted to add my encouragement. Have a great time![/QUOTE]You must be a lot better looking than me. I always start with a 500 baht offer but 1000 baht seems to be the bottom rate for the Sukhumvit girls I pick up, even at 3 a.m.
[QUOTE=Fun Dog]The term "tiger show" IMHO started in Malaysia and Singapore during the cabaret .................
Rose Chan was the most famous of them with her DDs (unusual for chinese in those days). I hear of their stories (from ............
FD[/QUOTE]
Did some research, and came up with this:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Chan[/url]
Thanks for the enlightment.
Paid a visit to Bangkok last weekend and joint the army of Eden Club fans. Really, this place alone makes a trip to BK worthwhile!
At the beginning was confused by Soi 7/1 address and it took me some time to find this small Soi BETWEEN Soi 7 and Soi 9. Then, the club entrance was easy to spot. I arrived at about 2 pm (warned by other reviews), so had a very good choice of girls. Followed the recommended way (pick one, she chooses a partner) and selected Cunn (not sure about spelling). She is gorgeous, has beautiful boobs (not so common among local girls) and really looked like a Latin American beauty to me. She picked Apple, and they really go very well together. Spotted some other nice girls too, so the average level was not bad.
I liked the room, which is very nicely done with a huge bed and mirrors everywhere. The girls pampered me like a king! Nothing more to desire, really. Not sure if you can get such treatment anywhere else, particularly for just 360 baht. Will make my best to be back
Went to Soi Cowboy Saturday night (started 9 pm) with two intentions: 1) have sex 2) not take a girl to hotel, as I was not up for a long one after visiting Eden earlier same day. So, my luck was in places that had meeting rooms available. To have full experience, I started with typical go-go places, leaving those with meeting rooms (at least those I was aware of) for later. As I do not like to be "harassed" by unattractive girls I do not want to spend time and money on, I started with less pushy places – Rawhide and Baccara. While the second one is more fun with two scenes, both looked like collections of quite mediocre girls. Would have problems if I had to pick one! Spent about 30-40 min in each and left. Decided to get "more hands on" and headed for Apach, where meeting places should be available upstairs. The bar is really tiny, with 6-7 girls on show, but cozy and less noisy. Invited #12 to join me and called in a drink for her immediately. Expected some push, but she was completely apathetic! She even admitted being tired (at 10: 30 pm! ). Left disappointed.
Was ready "to be pushed", so headed for Moonshine Joint, where you are supposed to be "surrounded by a dozen of girls right away". But in my mind MJ got mixed up with Midnight, where I happily landed. For obvious reasons, the expected push did not happen! The good thing is that Midnight had surely the best show of all places I visited that night. Looked like they had some "professional" dancers, who did their job really well. I invited one of them to sit with me (she turned out to be mamasan’s daughter), but she did not seem interested in more intimate interaction. Finally I grabbed a cute young chick called Tan, who turned really friendly with hot DFK and cuddling. Got a room upstairs and had a nice BBBJ and FJ (bar fee 700 + room 300 + girl 1500). Finish.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]So you are the Penbelly from the other forum LOL
Listen, no offence but your review is not worth much, even to newbies.
there is no way a LOS Veteran would generalise that much.
and by the way... you forgot the Coyotes and G clubs (by far the most interesting).[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, and he forgot about the other 90% of Thai women he obviously has never met.
My thoughts, I'm in Bangkok atm, I have done most of the scene and personally I'm not a big fan, its ok for a day or two but just flat out banging chicks for the sake of it gets boring, I had a soapy today which is pretty good, but overall I think there is no way the entire scene is worth living here, unless you have some sort of problem picking up western chicks or you are just downright ugly, cause they simply don't care here what you look like, whereas last week in Singapore the girls were quite fussy, expensive as well but its just much classier and better in my opinion, which perhaps stems from me having good time there.
I will add that if they had BJ bars all over the world it would be a better place thats for sure.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Absolutely, and he forgot about the other 90% of Thai women he obviously has never met.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but as he's only in town twice a year, he will never get to experience that side of Thailand.
What is the current going rate for ST/LT (looking at Beer Garden girls)?
[QUOTE=Vicious Vic]
The girls pampered me like a king! Nothing more to desire, really. Not sure if you can get such treatment anywhere else, particularly for just 360 baht. Will make my best to be back[/QUOTE]
Wow, 360 THB for all that. That's one hell of a deal. Most other customers pay 10 times as much. What's your secret?
[QUOTE=ILS05]What is the current going rate for ST/LT (looking at Beer Garden girls)?[/QUOTE]Going rate for beer garden girls is 1000 baht short time.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Wow, 360 THB for all that. That's one hell of a deal. Most other customers pay 10 times as much. What's your secret?[/QUOTE]We all know (at least from what is written here) that Eden's price for a 2 girl session is 3600 Baht. So he obviously missed a digit here. Then as a regular member he is unable to edit his post.
[QUOTE=ILS05]What is the current going rate for ST/LT (looking at Beer Garden girls)?[/QUOTE]It depends on what you want. In general most will accept 500B short time and 1000B long time.
This is not their "desired" income levels, and so you will get what you pay for, which generally means you have sex, but thats about it.
Girls would prefer 1000B short time and 2000B long time, and obviously if you are not a cheap charlie, you negotiate this to your advantage. Eg tell the girl 500B short time, but if she really performs well you will give her 1000B. This allows you to pay in the 500B to 1000B range depending on performance.
This generally gets you "better quality sex". As she is getting more buck for the bang.
However, the trouble is too many pathetic cheap charlies do this, and the girl gives a 1000B performance, and cheap charlie gives her 600B and says "thats an extra 100B for you".
And they spoil it for everyone else.
[QUOTE=Drfel]My thoughts, I'm in Bangkok atm, I have done most of the scene and personally I'm not a big fan, its ok for a day or two but just flat out banging chicks for the sake of it gets boring, I had a soapy today which is pretty good, but overall I think there is no way the entire scene is worth living here, unless you have some sort of problem picking up western chicks or you are just downright ugly, cause they simply don't care here what you look like, whereas last week in Singapore the girls were quite fussy, expensive as well but its just much classier and better in my opinion, which perhaps stems from me having good time there.
I will add that if they had BJ bars all over the world it would be a better place thats for sure.[/QUOTE]
Some of us are not looking for a relationship.
Just superior sex. We ARE big fans.
I don't like Aussie girls for sex or relationships, specially not ones of a suitable age. I do like East European, Sth American, West Indies etc. girls.
We just do the price/performance/looks equation to choose our desired destination Country where we feel comfortable.
At 50 years of age I am not going to pick up a young hot stunning East European GF easily. I am just not in the hunt. I tell myself I don't want such a GF :D
There are both expensive and classy places in Thailand.
Geylang in Singapore is definitely not at all classy. Class just depends on the place you choose and the girl you choose. We can see that you are not really after "Class" based on your BJ bar comment.
[QUOTE=Penbelly]Yes it is me and yes I am still undefeated. You had better tell the editor my post wasn't worth much as he has linked it to the reports of distinction.
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Don't mean a damn thing. I have seen totally worthless pieces of crap with incorrect information recommended for RoD. As a newbie your reoprts are read by the administrator and if you can string more than three words together an form a sentence that qualifies for a RoD. IMHO your report pretty much meets the criteria.
[QUOTE=ILS05]What is the current going rate for ST/LT (looking at Beer Garden girls)?[/QUOTE]
The last few times I shopped the Beer Garden I saw only older not-very-attractive women, and they initially quoted 1,500 baht short time! We're talking 30s to early 40s - I guess they're in there for the money-wasting old duffers. Of course I think most of them would come down to 1,000, but I think less would be difficult to attain. Most importantly, I didn't see anything in there worth doing at all - they seemed comparable in quality to the 300-500 baht girls in a backcountry brothel, just a bit more dressed up and made up. Maybe its just my personal impression but the girls on the street and in the Nana parking lot are a bit better looking and about the same price. In any case Bangkok is expensive, with poor quality girls and an unfavorable monger-to-provider ratio.
Well there is some willing discussion going on here, I suppose you have to remember its only opinions and everybody has got one.
I tried the Eden club today, I figure you have to at least one time. Well I will say it was worth the effort and the cash, I will also say I have had better from providers in either the UK or Australia, the two girls I had were reasonable looking, perhaps both in thier 30's, they worked SO hard on me and I worked so hard on both of them, it took me over an hour of non stop action to blow and that required some effort. But the whole time both girls gave thier best so for that they have to be comended. Mechanical yes, would I go back, no. But I'm glad I tried.
[QUOTE=Opebo]The last few times I shopped the Beer Garden I saw only older not-very-attractive women, and they initially quoted 1,500 baht short time! We're talking 30s to early 40s - I guess they're in there for the money-wasting old duffers. Of course I think most of them would come down to 1,000[/QUOTE]
I am bloody sure they would come down to 1000 ST, even the younger ones.
[QUOTE=Easy2007]It depends on what you want. In general most will accept 500B short time and 1000B long time.
[/QUOTE]
500 baht ST in the Beergarden ??? I doubt that very much unless the lady is over 50 and desperate.
The only place I ever hear about these really low prices is on internet forums, I never hear these prices actually quoted.
You may find 500 baht ST's on the Beach Road, Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Disagree with you. I've had a membership to the Pegagus Club for years and I've had great sex there. The great thing is I don't have to comb the bars or other places where I might be recognized and have to explain to the wife why I was hanging out in the Thermae. Money isn't the issue.[/QUOTE]
You're wasting your breath. Forget it. Now that he has confirmed he is the Same Penbelly as the other forum, well, let's say it is better to let him talk otherwise you are in for another "skinless Vs whoever" Saga.
I mean, for what it's worth, how can you consider a guy a LOS expert when he thought Thai was written from right to left?
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]500 baht ST in the Beergarden ??? I doubt that very much unless the lady is over 50 and desperate.
The only place I ever hear about these really low prices is on internet forums, I never hear these prices actually quoted.
You may find 500 baht ST's on the Beach Road, Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
You'd be surprised... I actually was quoted these prices at the Nana Parking Lot and by girls younger than 50 LOL, granted it was a long time ago.
I agree with Penbelly -- it was a concise summary for a newbie. As I was reading his report I was thinking, yup, that's how it works for me. Pay a small premium to the gogo girls at Nana for youth and beauty, remembering they have a job to report to where you can find them the next day; they know you that so they don't get up to no good. I've hit the LOS since the mid-80's and I've never had a problem with a lassie from a Gogo. Now the whack-o's in the Dom. Republic, however -- some nightmares! j
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]So you are the Penbelly from the other forum LOL
Listen, no offence but your review is not worth much, even to newbies.
there is no way a LOS Veteran would generalise that much.
and by the way... you forgot the Coyotes and G clubs (by far the most interesting).[/QUOTE]
I agree that any newbie posts with more than 4 words gets flagged by Jackson for report of distinction - it's a joke.
However, I've been visiting LOS since 1977 (when i was young and hansum like you;) ) and averaged 2-3 visits a year - so that gives me anywhere from 70+ visits. I've yet to visit a bj bar, a bdsm establishment, or the infamous Edens'. Pen was merely trying to be helpful...
Different strokes for different folks - peace to all, right?
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]500 baht ST in the Beergarden ??? I doubt that very much unless the lady is over 50 and desperate.
The only place I ever hear about these really low prices is on internet forums, I never hear these prices actually quoted.
You may find 500 baht ST's on the Beach Road, Pattaya.[/QUOTE]It all depends who you are, what you are etc.
If you are below 45, reasonably fit, reasonably good looking. I would say 90% of the girls will do 500 BT short time.
If you are unfit (eg fat), not very good looking, or over 45, then its going to be a struggle to find any for 500 BT.
Its quite funny that the girls do have a lot of face. And if there is a handsome stud in there, the younger ones will in general be happy to accept less, as it gives them the bragging rights over others. "I can pull the handsome ones". Kind of like why they like to wear gold, its all about showing off. Thats Thai girls.
So its therefore incorrect to say 500 BT is not correct, 500BT is very possible, but it depends on both parties agreeing to it.
If your 55, fat and grotesque, asking a 25 year old for 500 BT short time is not going to work. She will want maximum compensation for the agony of having you poke her, which is understandable as she will not enjoy it.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You're wasting your breath. Forget it. Now that he has confirmed he is the Same Penbelly as the other forum, well, let's say it is better to let him talk otherwise you are in for another "skinless Vs whoever" Saga.
I mean, for what it's worth, how can you consider a guy a LOS expert when he thought Thai was written from right to left?[/QUOTE]
Oh, screw him!
[QUOTE=Penbelly]Look Buddy, I have been coming to LOS for 13 years so don't give me the newbie crap.You make a reference to stringing three words together and then mispell three or four words in a paragraph.Nic Frenchy was a newbie as recently as two years ago on the Bangkok Post site and now he is passing himself off as some type of 'sage' on this site.What a joke.I was hoping this site would be a more non-confrontational site but I guess not. By the way,retired doggie,I couldn't care less about your 'great sex' with overpriced coyote dancers.Been there done that.[/QUOTE]
IMHO, your style is more confrontational than Retired Army.
Perhaps you should read his report carefully.
He points out that any new-comer to the ISG forum gets recommended for nomination for a Report of Distinction by the Moderator, regardless of the content.
Anyway your content probably didn't reach the REAL standard for nomination. Nominations happen rarely and ususally are for reports containing a lot more.
As a newcomer to the ISG it will take a while to build the respect of other readers. Nic knows you already from another forum, unfortanately meaning you don't start with a clean slate. But everyone has the opportunity for getting a reputation as being a very valuable information source.
This forum has a lot higher percentage of detailed reports
compared to the other forum which has too high a percentage of smart alec one liners in my opinion.
Of course one-liners are great if they are really funny.
I suggest you browse some of the Reports of Distinction in the ISG to get a feel for the standard expected.
Nic has been nominated several times because his escapades are detailed, witty and funny.
[QUOTE=Easy2007]It all depends who you are, what you are etc.
If you are below 45, reasonably fit, reasonably good looking. I would say 90% of the girls will do 500 BT short time.
If you are unfit (eg fat), not very good looking, or over 45, then its going to be a struggle to find any for 500 BT.
Its quite funny that the girls do have a lot of face. And if there is a handsome stud in there, the younger ones will in general be happy to accept less, as it gives them the bragging rights over others. "I can pull the handsome ones". Kind of like why they like to wear gold, its all about showing off. Thats Thai girls.
So its therefore incorrect to say 500 BT is not correct, 500BT is very possible, but it depends on both parties agreeing to it.
If your 55, fat and grotesque, asking a 25 year old for 500 BT short time is not going to work. She will want maximum compensation for the agony of having you poke her, which is understandable as she will not enjoy it.[/QUOTE]
And what about if you are 60, slim, tanned, and distinguished?
( all 60 years old are not necessarily fat and ugly...)
[QUOTE=Penbelly]Been to BKK 27 times(twice a year since '95)...
...I rarely do anything else in the three weeks I am here every 6 months...[/QUOTE]
Actually, your report was ok, although not that imformative, even for a newbie looking for info - really, no surprises, at all and quite general. It certainly didn't deserve an RoD. But, as people have pointed out, RoDs are not that 'distinct', anyway. They certainly aren't particularly discriminating. RoD seems to be almost an automated function of the board.
Doing the math, you've been here a total of 81 weeks (about 1 1/2 years, total) in 13 years. For any tourist, that is an impressive amount of time, I suppose. But, it begs the question, why after all that time are your areas of experience still so narrow and fairly predictable? It seems you travel the same well worn paths and therefore only have experience with a very small sampling of Thai women. As a result, I doubt your knowledge of Thai women is anything beyond very superficial and probably quite inaccurate in the broad scheme of things.
As for you being a newbie or not...well on here you are. You slag off NicFrenchy, despite the fact that in his time on this forum, he's been one of the most prolific and entertaining contributors. If you are so experienced and knowledgeable from all those visits, then prove it with more in-depth contributions, rather than attacking people because they find your posts a little light on real information.
It usually takes awhile before one is disliked on here. I spent years cultivating a general hatred and contempt. ;) However, you've managed in a handful of posts to already come across as a bit of a wanker. Earn the right first, mate. :D
[QUOTE=Dreams]And what about if you are 60, slim, tanned, and distinguished?
( all 60 years old are not necessarily fat and ugly...)[/QUOTE]Dreams, no harm in trying, but its a simple fact of life, the older you get the more difficult it is to get young girls for a cheap price - as opposed to being young and getting young girls for a cheap price.
gee...OTH - what's the male equivalent of a "MEOW!!" response (catty response)
I agree with your assessment, though - nothing "special" but nothing "wrong" either
and dreams - fat and ugly don't necessarily go together.
There's an old joke "Yeah, I'm fat - you're UGLY... I CAN DIET" :)
[QUOTE=Easy2007]It all depends who you are, what you are etc.
If you are below 45, reasonably fit, reasonably good looking. I would say 90% of the girls will do 500 BT short time.
If you are unfit (eg fat), not very good looking, or over 45, then its going to be a struggle to find any for 500 BT.
Its quite funny that the girls do have a lot of face. And if there is a handsome stud in there, the younger ones will in general be happy to accept less, as it gives them the bragging rights over others. "I can pull the handsome ones". Kind of like why they like to wear gold, its all about showing off. Thats Thai girls.
So its therefore incorrect to say 500 BT is not correct, 500BT is very possible, but it depends on both parties agreeing to it.
If your 55, fat and grotesque, asking a 25 year old for 500 BT short time is not going to work. She will want maximum compensation for the agony of having you poke her, which is understandable as she will not enjoy it.[/QUOTE]
I don't care if you are 21 and look like David Beckham, good looking hookers in Bangkok do not shag for 500 baht ---only desperate ugly old bags.
You sound like a dreamer to me, harmless I suppose.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]I don't care if you are 21 and look like David Beckham, good looking hookers in Bangkok do not shag for 500 baht ---only desperate ugly old bags.
You sound like a dreamer to me, harmless I suppose.[/QUOTE]You're probably neither good looking nor young then, since they certainly do, and sometimes even for free when the fancy takes them. It's fine if you don't know the facts, but why be bitter about it?
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
It usually takes awhile before one is disliked on here. I spent years cultivating a general hatred and contempt. ;) However, you've managed in a handful of posts to already come across as a bit of a wanker. Earn the right first, mate. :D[/QUOTE]
OTH,
You have a very special talent for being hated, respected, valued and enjoyed, all at the same time. But we can pass it off as being in a bad mood when you are writing your vitriolic stuff. Because we know you will have lots of good information/perspective on another day. :)
We all must realise there is always a lot to learn in matters where we are not so experienced.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]gee...OTH - what's the male equivalent of a "MEOW!!" response (catty response)
I agree with your assessment, though - nothing "special" but nothing "wrong" either
and dreams - fat and ugly don't necessarily go together.
There's an old joke "Yeah, I'm fat - you're UGLY... I CAN DIET" :)[/QUOTE]
Well I find that I must really put in the exercise to actually accomplish losing some weight. It does result in looking younger too.
I wonder if all the Laser skin treatments could actually make me appear younger and better looking.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I wonder if all the Laser skin treatments could actually make me appear younger and better looking.[/QUOTE]
I got the weight thing down pat (now). But if you find anything for raccoon eyes let me know... after day one in LOS my eyes start looking like a raccoon as I don't sleep enough due to the too much play at night and I actually have to put in a full day of work during the day time.
Enjoy tonight, say hi to the GF for me.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I got the weight thing down pat (now). But if you find anything for raccoon eyes let me know... after day one in LOS my eyes start looking like a raccoon as I don't sleep enough due to the too much play at night and I actually have to put in a full day of work during the day time.
Enjoy tonight, say hi to the GF for me.[/QUOTE]
I remember her sweet face, but can't remember her name.
Its one of those very common Thai names, right? I'm getting old. Perhaps Giotto will remind me.
Guys,
I have decided to try this Korean Red Ginseng, for all sorts of reasons despite it being expensive.
It is available in Thailand far cheaper than back home.
Here is a web site on supposed benefits.
[url]http://www.kgc.or.kr/new_eng/effect/efficacy.html[/url]
Its too early for me to say, as have only just started.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Guys,
I have decided to try this Korean Red Ginseng, for all sorts of reasons despite it being expensive.
It is available in Thailand far cheaper than back home.
Here is a web site on supposed benefits.
[url]http://www.kgc.or.kr/new_eng/effect/efficacy.html[/url]
Its too early for me to say, as have only just started.[/QUOTE]
Just be aware that you aren't going to get the good stuff outside of Korea.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Just be aware that you aren't going to get the good stuff outside of Korea.[/QUOTE]
Korean people in Australia are importing it and believe they are getting the good (real) stuff.
Are you saying that the stuff available in Thailand will be fake, even if its in the identical box saying manufactured in Korean Ginseng Corporation (Republic of Korea)?
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Guys,
I have decided to try this Korean Red Ginseng, for all sorts of reasons despite it being expensive.
It is available in Thailand far cheaper than back home.
Here is a web site on supposed benefits.
[url]http://www.kgc.or.kr/new_eng/effect/efficacy.html[/url]
Its too early for me to say, as have only just started.[/QUOTE]
Has ginseng ever actually been tested to see how it measures up to these claims? Big claims + high price + no testing seems like a very beneficial formula for the seller, mainly. Anyway, I think this topic belongs in the ginseng forum. The most famous benefit is that it helps you live longer. I guess if you know how long you are going to live, then this would be testable. What could it possibly be based on? That's not included in this list of claims though. The aim on the website seems to be more "scientific": ginseng detoxifies alcohol, they say. Really? I wonder how it can do that. I guess if you eat a bunch of ginseng, you shouldn't be able to get drunk then. Well, that's easily testable. Acts as a cancer injunctive. ("injunctive"? normally used to describe a court-ordered restriction, as far as I know -- odd to be used in this sense, apparently meaning "preventive") If that isn't a dangerously irresponsible claim, I don't know what is.
[QUOTE=Wendella]... Acts as a cancer injunctive. ("injunctive"? normally used to describe a court-ordered restriction, as far as I know -- odd to be used in this sense, apparently meaning "preventive") If that isn't a dangerously irresponsible claim, I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]
Actually the word used is "adjunctive," not "injunctive," a big difference. However, your point is well taken in that the ad also says that their product: "Helps prevent cancer development," a highly suspicious claim.
I'll leave it up to Mick to report on the "improves sexual stamina" claim. Frankly, I'm mighty skeptical about that, but will keep an open mind to the possibility. At least it's not necessary to kill a Rhinoceros to obtain it. :)
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]I don't care if you are 21 and look like David Beckham, good looking hookers in Bangkok do not shag for 500 baht ---only desperate ugly old bags.
You sound like a dreamer to me, harmless I suppose.[/QUOTE]JRC,
They do, I have had plenty. Admittedly its not going to happen all the time, but it does happen sometimes.
One advantage I have is speaking Thai very well, which kind of opens many doors that are locked to farangs who cannot speak Thai.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]OTH,
You have a very special talent for being hated, respected, valued and enjoyed, all at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Such is the nature of a Renaissance man. ;)
[QUOTE=Penbelly]Actually, the 'Different strokes for different folks comment' is right on. There are some people who NEED to believe that they are accomplishing something great in G-clubs or hitting on TG's in department stores as opposed to bar girls. Why? I have no idea. Maybe the sex isn't as good with a hooker for them because of some psychological hangup. Then there are people like me-total horndogs who even after hundreds and hundreds of allnighters still get jelly-kneed when ANY good-looking babe's little ass pops out of her jeans. [/QUOTE]
It's always been different strokes for different folks. I can appreciate that some like the Go-Go bar scene, since there are no major surprises in terms of what you are getting physically. However, I don't think the girls in the Go-Go's have better bodies than the girls in any other type of venue. Just less guess work. The Soapy's, G-Clubs, Beer Bars, Oil Massage joints, etc. all have their share of incredible bodies and hot woman. They all have their pluses and minuses, but in the end, it's all good. I love the Go-Go's, but like variety too.
I will mix in G-Clubs, because they are fun. You get to meet some hot woman that you may not have seen, somewhere else. It does not matter where they worked before. Fact is, during any given visit, that girl may only have been found there. If you meet one gem, who cares where you found her or what you spent. As long as you had fun. No psychological hangups involved. I'm a total horndog too, so I like to mix it up. Oil massage, Beer Bar, Soapy, Go-Go, Soi 33 bar, Nightclub and G-Club. I have done the cycle many times in BKK and never regretted it. Keep in mind, you don't need to spend more than 3k baht to get phone numbers at a G-Club. After that, you meet up with the girl over the course of your vacation and return trips in some cases. Very small price to pay for more good times.
I think the best advice for any newbie is to try everything and find out for yourself. Every post is just one man's opinion and you eventually need to come up with your own, which is the only one that will count to you in the end. We all have preferences and you will need to find the places that meet yours.
Having said all of that, I would like to add, welcome to the BKK thread. The summary was a good idea. Maybe adding a few examples and some favorites, might be a nice addition too. I have been accumulating some notes to post, in line with your general idea. A bit of a work in progress. More in terms of venues first and a basic overview of some of the more well known examples along with websites when available. Some generalizations of the types of girls and as we all know, generalizations are always dangerous and full of holes. Just a starting point.
I just want to mention that you may be causing a lot of collateral damage, in the process of defending yourself, since you could be trashing other innocent bystanders in the process. Or at least their tastes.
Peace,
AT2
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Actually the word used is "adjunctive," not "injunctive," a big difference. However, your point is well taken in that the ad also says that their product: "Helps prevent cancer development," a highly suspicious claim.[/QUOTE]
Damn, you're right -- it does say adjunctive, though "adjunctive" is an even stranger word choice. According to Webster:
"something joined or added to another thing but not essentially a part of it"
I'd treat the whole list not just as suspicious, but bogus. If it was actually effective in any of these things, drug companies would have isolated the active ingredients and turned them into a real drugs by now. Its not like ginseng is a secret they never heard of.
Seems like a lot of money to pay for placebo effect.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Korean people in Australia are importing it and believe they are getting the good (real) stuff.
Are you saying that the stuff available in Thailand will be fake, even if its in the identical box saying manufactured in Korean Ginseng Corporation (Republic of Korea)?[/QUOTE]
No, I'm not saying it's fake, just not the best available in Korea. It's commercial quality as the Koreans will pay a fortune for the best Ginseng. There are stories of rich Koreans paying hundreds of thousand Won for one root. Especially if they are sick or dying. Story I heard was about a dying Korean gentleman paying over $100,000 for the best Ginseng to keep him alive long enough to get his affairs in order before he departed this dear earth for his heavenly rewards.
Now, what do I know about Ginseng; only what I've heard or read. Tried some Ginseng whiskey in Korea once and puked. Tasted like mud.
Hi,
Can you tell me please a nice place in Bangkok with Coyote dancers sexy show?
Best regards from Spain.
NOTE TO NEWBIES (LIKE ME): This post does not provide any info on Bangkok; it is just an introduction of me to the veterans, followed by some queries. If you are looking for valuable reports/info you should skip this post and wait for replies, thus saving yourself some valuable time.
Dear BKK Gurus,
Thanks for all the great tips; I feel I have visited Bangkok already even though I'm still expecting to be very happily surprised when I get there in three days.
I just turned 27 and suddenly feel that the "good years" have slipped through my fingers, as I was more of the "shy" type pretty much since adulthood. (i.e. very little sexual experience)
Half panicking and half thanking the powers of this world that I realized this young enough (I have no present commitments, etc...), I decided to take a chance and escape!
So here I am with my booked air-ticket in hand (since this morning), credit cards in pockets, and of course some cash to spend on the local talent.
Other than this forum which I spent the last 5 hours reading, starting from reports dated around February 2008 (yes i am lonely bust mostly want to make the most of my 5 day escapade in Bangkok), I know NOTHING of Thailand nor Bangkok. I therefore kindly ask you 3 days before my departure to fill in any of the missing info/gaps/enquiries mentioned below:
1) I am thinking of the Majestic Grande as my Headquarters there, but I am worried of the fact that they have only two elevators for 251 rooms (I don't want to be stuck in the lift with three girls wrapped in my arms, stopping at each floor with other guests feeling uncomfortable (families, children, etc...). I need a very clean (especially bed sheets and toilet) hotel with price range of max 3,500baht/night with good location near Sukhumvit. Any definitive suggestions in this regard? Please bear in mind that reception needs to allow more than 1 guest at a time (yes, I have some catching up to do)
2) I should be close to NEP, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong (reasonably), but I have heard good feedback on Pattaya. What's the best option to go there and how many days out of 5 should I spend there in your opinion, comparing it to Bangkok.
3) I have learned that social venues used to close at 1:00am since some years now but gradually some are staying open up to 2:00am... confirm? anything longer?
4) Soapies sound like a very attractive service, but different reports insinuate different additional services included. Is it rude to directly ask the management of the Parlor of what is included beforehand? is it strictly up to the chose lady? is FS "always" an option as long as the price is right?
5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger...
6) Is filming/photographing scenes in public (street, bars, clubs etc...) allowed or might entail complications?
7) How "long" is LT in average? for “extra” LT (2-3 days), should you pay the lucky candidate before hand? gradually? at the end?
8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?
Hoping that you are still reading my purely inquisitive post, please accept my apologies if some of my questions may seem irrelevant or plainly boring.
However, any recommendations concerning the above would be greatly appreciated, and please feel free to add any suggestion that you think may be useful with regard to my background info.
Thanks in advance,
Feeling like a kid again at Christmas Eve,
JH
Jay,
I will share my opinions on a few of your questions:
1) I am thinking of the Majestic Grande as my Headquarters there, but I am worried of the fact that they have only two elevators for 251 rooms (I don't want to be stuck in the lift with three girls wrapped in my arms, stopping at each floor with other guests feeling uncomfortable (families, children, etc...). I need a very clean (especially bed sheets and toilet) hotel with price range of max 3,500baht/night with good location near Sukhumvit. Any definitive suggestions in this regard? Please bear in mind that reception needs to allow more than 1 guest at a time (yes, I have some catching up to do)
There are many good places to stay, but I would suggest Livingstones Lodge, here is a link on this site this site where you can find out more about Livingstones:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=754[/url]
The layout of the place elimates the elevator concerns and you can get a room for less than 3,500 baht.
I have stayed there on more than one occasion and can not wait to visit again.
2) I should be close to NEP, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong (reasonably), but I have heard good feedback on Pattaya. What's the best option to go there and how many days out of 5 should I spend there in your opinion, comparing it to Bangkok.
I have never been to Pattaya yet. If this is your first visit and you have a limited number of days on this trip, like a week or less, then be careful about wasting time traveling to other areas, enjoy Bangkok!
3) I have learned that social venues used to close at 1:00am since some years now but gradually some are staying open up to 2:00am... confirm? anything longer?
Closing as a general rule of thumb is 2am.
4) Soapies sound like a very attractive service, but different reports insinuate different additional services included. Is it rude to directly ask the management of the Parlor of what is included beforehand? is it strictly up to the chose lady? is FS "always" an option as long as the price is right?
Do some research at this site.
5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger...
If you meet a young lady and both of you decide to go somewhere, yes they will travel in a cab with you.
6) Is filming/photographing scenes in public (street, bars, clubs etc...) allowed or might entail complications?
I do not know about this?
7) How "long" is LT in average? for “extra” LT (2-3 days), should you pay the lucky candidate before hand? gradually? at the end?
I understand "LT" it to mean overnight.
8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?
Get the lingerie as a gift and I would think the girl would be happy to wear it!
Good luck and have fun.
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Hi
Could some one PM me if you know this.
Need to ask some test results from the girls....
John
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]I just turned 27 and suddenly feel that the "good years" have slipped through my fingers, as I was more of the "shy" type pretty much since adulthood. (i.e. very little sexual experience)[/QUOTE]Hi there,
I am not very experienced in BKK to answer all your questions, but I assure you age wise you will not have a problem. Maybe on Soi33, but otherwise it should be an asset. Just be a gentleman, and take resonable precautions. Whenever I travel I leave everything in the hotel safe, I only keep enough money in local currency in my pocket to cover twice the cost of any excursion I plan and the hotel key, thats it. Maybe my monger phone, or my N95 depending on circumstaces. Beware of guys (thai or foriegn) on the street or in a girlie bar who approaches you or tries to counsel you (it is too general a thing to say, but I have heard a few stories, better to be safe, in fact my first time was approached by a fairly young french guy as part of that one day only gem stone sale scam). I don't think it was NicF as far as I imagine!
There is a very extensive guide on massage parlors by micklicker in word format on these forums, as well as by giotto. Search for 'Soapy MP list. Doc'
There is also word document (I don't know exactly where, but a search should bring it up) by mick which is a table listing of all the massage parlors which makes a handy guide called 'Bangkok List of MPs with maps and web links' I have v2 and have used it often to see what is near or how to get to some place or price, etc.
The hotel thread has all the answers and first timers are well advised to stay at one of the already reviewed places. Haven't stayed at Majestic so could not tell you about being stuck in elevators or if they have an issue with three or four; I don't think there should be an issue. Am pretty sure some of the other monger friendly places such as Dynasty Grande would not have a problem. At your budget staying at Livingstones Lodge is also an option, especially since you are a newbie and though it is a bit far from NEP is a nice easy place to get off mongering in BKK with no issues, 'cause you know they cater to us.
For 5 days a trully committed horn dog monger would stay either only in BKK or Pattaya; experienced guys would know better, but picking up and moving just for mongering too much of a hassle. But, then again, I never travel light! So I tend to stick in one hotel. I mean you could wake up to a nice morning session with your overnighter, after breakfast head over to Eden for a porn star experience and appetite builder for lunch, rest, relax, shop, sight see a little and then go for a soapy or massage, and later hit the clubs after a nice dinner and this wouldn't get old over a period of 5 days.
Your first trip, especially to a new location, and such a nice touristy place like BKK does invoke the thought of having a beautiful Thai GFE for a long time period, especially to be a partner in sightseeing, eating, etc. But by my experience it is though to develop that your first time and in 5 days. The WGs we normally meet at these venues aren't exactly gf material most of the times, and don't get around much in BKK themselves, so are not great tour guides, as well their english skill vary widely. Also, why restrict yourself, because the girl is not exactly going to help you pick up additional chicks with whom to have fun with (which it seems to me is your prime goal), and most working girls you will meet have other commitments as well and would also not want to be tied down to one guy, even if they like you, especially if you were going to be leaving soon. IMHO, But others could comment better on this.
Lastly, all girls working or otherwise don't mind presents, especially lingerie. I am sure this would not be an issue, and there are plenty of options in BKK shopping malls from la perla to street vendors!
Have fun, stay safe, and do report back.
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[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]NOTE TO NEWBIES (LIKE ME):
Dear BKK Gurus,
However, any recommendations concerning the above would be greatly appreciated, and please feel free to add any suggestion that you think may be useful with regard to my background info.
Thanks in advance,
Feeling like a kid again at Christmas Eve,
JH[/QUOTE]
Politely suggest you send in your $$ to Jackson, so that you can receive PM. I'm sure you'll get more suggestions for your coming visit. Enjoy :)
JH,
See my responses below.
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
1) I am thinking of the Majestic Grande as my Headquarters there, but I am worried of the fact that they have only two elevators for 251 rooms (I don't want to be stuck in the lift with three girls wrapped in my arms, stopping at each floor with other guests feeling uncomfortable (families, children, etc...). I need a very clean (especially bed sheets and toilet) hotel with price range of max 3,500baht/night with good location near Sukhumvit. Any definitive suggestions in this regard? Please bear in mind that reception needs to allow more than 1 guest at a time (yes, I have some catching up to do)
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Not something you should worry about, but if you are really that concerned, try Livingstones Lodge on Sukhumvit Soi 33. It's a mongerers hotel, with girls on premises, so there's no chance you will need to worry about feeling uncomfortable. Other options would be Majestic Suites near Nana Plaza (Sukhumvit Soi 4), Dynasty Inn Grande (Sukhumvit Soi 6), or S15 on Sukhumvit Soi 15. They have limited traffic and are generally hotels used by guys on the hunt.
[url=https://majesticsuites.com/index.html]Majestic Suites Hotel website[/url]
[url=http://www.dynastygrande.com/]Dynasty Inn Grande Hotel website[/url]
[url=http://www.s15hotel.com/]S15 Hotel website[/url]
[url=http://www.livingstones.co.th/]Livingstones website[/url]
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
2) I should be close to NEP, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong (reasonably), but I have heard good feedback on Pattaya. What's the best option to go there and how many days out of 5 should I spend there in your opinion, comparing it to Bangkok.
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Impossible question to answer, since this one is based on taste. I personally hate Pattaya and would stay away from it. Some others stay primarily in Pattaya and hate Bangkok. Some like to mix it up. Pattaya has a higher sleaze factor to me, but is cheaper. Why not spend the 1st day in Bangkok, the 2nd day in Pattaya, then plan the rest of the stay based on your 1st hand experiences.
You don't need to book your entire hotel stay in advance, other than your 1st night in either place. There are so many hotel options, I really don't think you need to lock in so early. Just log on to the internet as needed, to pull this website up and view the hotel thread if you get stuck. If you find Pattaya is your thing, extend your hotel stay. If you don't like it, book a room back in Bangkok before you leave Pattaya. Keep a list of hotels handy, in case extending is a problem.
Part of me, says you should just stay in BKK, since you only have 5 days. Get to know the city and then next time try Pattaya. There's a lot of ground you should cover and 5 days is not much. Soapy's, Go-Go's, Oil Massage joints, Beer Bars, Night Clubs, G-Clubs, Freelancers, Thermae, Eden Club, etc. etc. etc.
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
3) I have learned that social venues used to close at 1:00am since some years now but gradually some are staying open up to 2:00am... confirm? anything longer?
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Most are open till 2:00am these days, but always subject to change. There are also after hours spots, also subject to change, and they run till about 4:00am (E.g. Spice Club at the Ambassador). There are also many smaller beer bars, which will "close" at 1:00am or 2:00am, but with a few patrons still inside. The bar appears to be closed from the outside, but the regulars are still inside having a good time (E.g. Small bars farther down Soi 4 and on Soi 6). There are also a few 24/7 oil massage places, if you need some after hours company (E.g. Sabai Sabai on Soi 11). There are also many many girls hanging outside of Nana Plaza after 2:00am and up and down the main drag between Sukhumvit Soi 4 and Soi 15, during the late night\early morning. This street action goes on every night and centers around the food carts. Drinking, eating, etc. but you will need to get past your shyness. Hopefully, you will already have a girl for the night by 2:00am.
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
4) Soapies sound like a very attractive service, but different reports insinuate different additional services included. Is it rude to directly ask the management of the Parlor of what is included beforehand? is it strictly up to the chose lady? is FS "always" an option as long as the price is right?
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Not sure what reports you have been reading. FS is always included in the Soapy price (All inclusive pricing). BJ's are also pretty standard service, along with the nice pre-sex bath before the main course. Anal and other services should be discussed with the managers. Never hesitate to ask questions if in doubt, but do your homework (pricing, etc.) before you go. The Soapy slide on the mattress is also not standard, so ask, if that's what you are interested in. With the oil massage places like Tulip and Angel, FS is not included in the massage fee of 400 to 600 baht, so bear that in mind. You can get FS at Tulip and Angels for an additional 1,500 baht to the girl.
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger...
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Taxi's are not a problem. More taxi's than you will ever need, any time of the day. The biggest problem is actually during the rush hours, when the city get's into gridlock mode. Taxi's will only want to travel a few blocks, during this time and will not take people to certain parts of town (waste of gas, not worth their time). Sorry, but I had to chuckle at the "riding in a cab with a stranger" question. Dude, they are going to your hotel to screw your brains out .. and the taxi ride is going to be an issue? Hmmmm, I think not.
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
6) Is filming/photographing scenes in public (street, bars, clubs etc...) allowed or might entail complications?
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See the photo thread and YouTube, and that should answer your question. I would just suggest that you be cool about it. I don't think too many guys would appreciate being photograhed, so try to keep them out of the picture.
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
7) How "long" is LT in average? for “extra” LT (2-3 days), should you pay the lucky candidate before hand? gradually? at the end?
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LT (Long Time) is generally from the time you take them out from the bar, till morning. Some stretch it to noon, but that's getting rarer. Honestly, for me, I'm usually sending them on their way just after breakfast. I want to move on to new things, the next day. You can extend if you wish, by barfining the girl again or if she's a freelancer, working out the terms with her. Since you are "making up for lost time", tying yourself down to one girl seems like it would be counterproductive to your goal.
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?
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Not hard at all, but my preference is to have them in the shower or tub with me and just a towel on, before the action starts.
Peace,
AT2
Jh
Hotels. Up to you.
3) I have learned that social venues used to close at 1:00am since some years now but gradually some are staying open up to 2:00am. Confirm? Anything longer?
Some stay open longer, some do not. But really, at 1am you should be deep into various wet holes, not drinking. You can drink at home. Why go to Bangkok to drink late?
4) Soapies sound like a very attractive service, but different reports insinuate different additional services included. Is it rude to directly ask the management of the Parlor of what is included beforehand? Is it strictly up to the chose lady? Is FS "always" an option as long as the price is right?
Soapies, the price paid includes FS. If you so wish you may give an extra tip to the girl in her hand at the end, 500B is sufficient, but only if you have a good time. If its just normal or average, then no extra tip is needed.
5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger.
No problems,
6) Is filming/photographing scenes in public (street, bars, clubs etc.) allowed or might entail complications? Street no problem, most bars and clubs have "No Photo" signs. This is to protect their customers, like me. I do not want a photo of me, taken by you, appearing anywhere. So please respect that in clubs and bars. NO PHOTOS.
7) How "long" is LT in average? For "extra" LT (2-3 days), should you pay the lucky candidate before hand? Gradually? At the end?
LT refers to "overnight" as in she sleeps with you and leaves in the morning.
Payment is always made at the end, never pay up front. If you take a girl for a few days then I would suggest waiting all until the end.
8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?
They are at your service and will wear anything you want. Its best to ask them where to buy, they will take you to places like Central or Robinson where you can find most things you want.
Enjoy
It amazaes me how so many of you can spend so much time talking abut yourselves and each other and so little time actually discussing the relevant topic, i.e. mongering.
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?
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I also have a thing about lingerie, definitely more of a turn-on than a girl just whipping off her clothes or wearing a towel -- to me at least. In my experience, they generally are a bit surprised and amused by the idea of wearing the lingerie. It's something different, definitely feminine, the kind of thing they've probably mainly seen in movies. So nearly every girl I've done that with has been into it, even. It makes for an interesting daytime errand, going to shop for the lingerie, imagining how a girl you spotted at some go go would look in this particular item, or that one.
With just 5 days, I'd tend to stay mainly in one place. The idea below is good, stay in BKK first nite, then down to PTY the next just to get a taste, then choose. Keep in mind it takes a few hrs to get from BKK to PTY. Both have an overwhelming set of choices, especially for that short a time, so you can't really go wrong.
[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger.[/QUOTE]
I'd say at 1-2-3am you will have a really tough time finding a girl who WOULDN'T accept riding in a cab with a stranger. ;-)
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]JH,
See my responses below.
....................... There are also many many girls hanging outside of Nana Plaza after 2:00am and up and down the main drag between Sukhumvit Soi 4 and Soi 15, during the late night\early morning. This street action goes on every night and centers around the food carts. Drinking, eating, etc. but you will need to get past your shyness. Hopefully, you will already have a girl for the night by 2:00am....................
Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]
It's funny, but in all my visits to BKK, I have never been inclined to go up and down the even Soi side. Probably because I have never seen many freelancers on that side. The odd side is always crowded. So is there a scene on the odd Soi side? Is it any better? And between what Soi numbers?
[QUOTE=Duniawala]It's funny, but in all my visits to BKK, I have never been inclined to go up and down the even Soi side. Probably because I have never seen many freelancers on that side. The odd side is always crowded. So is there a scene on the odd Soi side? Is it any better? And between what Soi numbers?[/QUOTE]
Late at night between Soi 4 and up to Soi 8 at the most but usually not that far... maybe to landmark or so... there are usually some FL but it is after nana closes for the most part has been my experience. This is from when I was staying off of soi 8 for a while.
Some gem's IMHO... girls late at night looking for a pick up, lower cost, not as hard core for the most part but you have your hard core in there too. Usually part timers needing some extra cash. Soi 3 to Soi 11 or so you got a lot of FL during day and night but no real FL during day time on the even side between Soi 8 and Soi 4.
Again this is from beginning of the year when I was staying in that area for a long time. Could have changed recently.
[QUOTE=Duniawala] So is there a scene on the odd Soi side? Is it any better? And between what Soi numbers?[/QUOTE]
There is a number of "afterhour bars" set up on the even side, the first one that you come to as you go from Nana to the BTS station is all lady boys. So you might want to skip that one(or maybe not :) )
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]There is a number of "afterhour bars" set up on the even side, the first one that you come to as you go from Nana to the BTS station is all lady boys. So you might want to skip that one(or maybe not :) )[/QUOTE]
A lot of ladies standing out of the way along the business fronts as well just out of the line of sight just waiting there. If you are up late or up early this is a fun place to check out.
[QUOTE=Tphotog96]It amazaes me how so many of you can spend so much time talking abut yourselves and each other and so little time actually discussing the relevant topic, i.e. mongering.[/QUOTE]
It amazes me that someone with a whole seven posts would make such a comment.
[QUOTE=Bonbon John]Hi
Could some one PM me if you know this.
Need to ask some test results from the girls....
John[/QUOTE]
Ominous .....
Try PM'ing Evil Penivel, he may be able to help you.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Politely suggest you send in your $$ to Jackson, so that you can receive PM. I'm sure you'll get more suggestions for your coming visit. Enjoy :)[/QUOTE]I thought I did... I guess it's time to figure out how to use PM's :)
[QUOTE=Tphotog96]It amazaes me how so many of you can spend so much time talking abut yourselves and each other and so little time actually discussing the relevant topic, i.e. mongering.[/QUOTE]It amazes me how much replies containing relevant tips and information I got within the brief 24 hours since I posted my query. Thanks to all!
[QUOTE=Bonbon John]Hi
Could some one PM me if you know this.
Need to ask some test results from the girls....
John[/QUOTE]
It's deja vu all over again!
I sent you a PM with the email addresses to Bruce (the manager) and Marc (edenpapa). Keep in mind Marc is now retired from Eden.
You can also find the email addresses and other contact info at:
[URL=http://www.edenclub-bangkok.com/]The Eden Website[/URL]
Evil
Hey everyone once again,
So after my last trip to BKK and that last report, I'm ready to head down again!
I hope I can harness abit of what I learnt the last trip and save me some money.
I will definitely check out Nataree this time and hopefully head back to Amsterdam too. What I might not do is head back to The Pent.
While the girls are awesome, and I still have 7 bottles of whisky there due to signing up for the membership the last time I was there, its sort of a hit and miss kinda thing. I wanted the girl to follow me back but she wouldn't even name a price. Was I supposed to name one for her and see if she indicates her acceptance?
I've read that maybe Pegasus is a better bet esp when you expect to get laid with her after you're done taking shots at your liver?
I've also read/heard that Novotel at CM2 is a good place to try in the later hours (1am. 2am).
I'm actually looking for younger girls, around 18. 25 which may also double as students/office ladies. I don't mind paying abit more but now I'm not too sure where I can get these. The Pent has them but I'm not sure if they're too up to following you back.
On a separate note, when I asked the cab to take me to The Pent, he asked why? And I mentioned to him "beautiful young girl".
So he said "No no no no. " sort of as if I was getting ripped off.
Then he said, all the local university and college young girls go to a place called Jasmine or something similar on it was Sulawong road I think?
I can't quite remember and I've been trying to recall for the past week or so.
He offered to take us there but we had some friends waiting for us at The Pent so I was andamant on visiting The Pent.
Does anyone have any experience with this place? Or have any info for me about finding 18. 25 year old 9/10 stunners?
I would really really appreciate it.
On a separate note, there's a restaurant on Lang Suan Road called Home Kitchen. No. 95 if I'm not mistaken. On your right. Sorta hard to spot, but once you know where it is, you won't miss it. I stay nearby on wireless road so I eat there often and the food is quite good.
Will be back with more from my trip this coming Monday!
[QUOTE=Kenster]
On a separate note, when I asked the cab to take me to The Pent, he asked why? And I mentioned to him "beautiful young girl".
So he said "No no no no. " sort of as if I was getting ripped off.
Then he said, all the local university and college young girls go to a place called Jasmine or something similar on it was Sulawong road I think?
[/QUOTE]
Can't trust Taxi drivers to tell the truth but its still possible.
Mostly they want to take you to a place giving kick-backs.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Can't trust Taxi drivers to tell the truth but its still possible.
Mostly they want to take you to a place giving kick-backs.[/QUOTE]Yup I thought so too. I sorta figured after reading this board that the taxi drivers aren't speaking from the kindness of their hearts when they make a recommendation.
So thankfully, we decided to give it a pass. I am contemplating heading to the Pegasus this time round. Worth the try or should I just skip it and head back to The Pent?
What about some feedback on CM2 and where I can locate some younger, albeit more expensive stunners.
Thanks so much in advance! Anyone up for a beer anyways? I'm going to be in BKK 4th. 6th. Short work related trip. (10% work, 90% pleasure)
Hi Guys,
I did a search and I RTFF. I just want a quick answer.
I'm guessing from what I have read here and elsewhere that Coyote Bars are places with table dances versus a stage. I got an impression from another web site that G-Bars were Lesbian places. Now I'm gussing that's wrong.
A simple sentence on both these types of venues would be quite adequate.
Thanks!
N1
[QUOTE=Nuevo]Hi Guys,
I did a search and I RTFF. I just want a quick answer.
I'm guessing from what I have read here and elsewhere that Coyote Bars are places with table dances versus a stage. I got an impression from another web site that G-Bars were Lesbian places. Now I'm gussing that's wrong.
A simple sentence on both these types of venues would be quite adequate.
Thanks!
N1[/QUOTE]
N1,
Allow me to quote from another Place that I think sums it up quite well:
[quote from BigBabyKenny]G-Clubs cost a lot of money and take a lot of time. Whether the benefits are greater than the costs is an unsettled and mostly personal question. If you have the time and money and are looking to bang and hang with particular types of girls, G-Clubs might be for you. If you are on short time, short money, or GoGo and Bierbar girls are doing it for you, G-Clubs are not for you.
G-Clubs are not like GoGo’s and Bierbars where barfining and banging the girls is part of the business model and the club’s economic interest is to make the exchange simple, transparent, and minimize transaction costs. The G-Club has no direct financial interest in you banging the girls. In fact, G-Club management would prefer you not bang the girls as long as you continue visiting the club to see them and give the club money. Banging is a private transaction and doing it incorrectly will burn a lot of cash and leave you frequently frustrated[/quote from BigBabyKenny]
[QUOTE=Nuevo]Hi Guys,
I did a search and I RTFF. I just want a quick answer.
I'm guessing from what I have read here and elsewhere that Coyote Bars are places with table dances versus a stage. I got an impression from another web site that G-Bars were Lesbian places. Now I'm gussing that's wrong.
A simple sentence on both these types of venues would be quite adequate.
Thanks!
N1[/QUOTE]
Nuevo,
Coyote Bars = Bars that feature "Coyote Dancers", BKK's take on the female bartenders who danced on the bar in the Movie Coyote Ugly.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=763164&postcount=2543]Evil Penivel's "Coyote" Post[/url]
G-Clubs = Gentlemen's Clubs .. aka Hostess Clubs. An offshoot of the Korean hostess bar or Japanese Hostess bar. In those settings, sex is not the objective, just companionship and\or entertainment.
Like all things, there's a lot of gray area in the definitions or active practices of both. The term "Coyote Dancer\Bar" is used by many bars, for not only girls dancing on the bar tops, but also on mini stages, or spot light stages, etc. Then there are G-Clubs that feature Coyote Dancers as entertainment, like Forte in RCA.
The G-Clubs like the Pent, are for entertainment (sometimes with a live band, Karaoke, In house Nightclub, etc.) and the company of beautiful woman. They don't normally have a barfine system. If the girl likes you, she may end up seeing you outside the bar. No guarantee of sex. They will not normally leave the bar with you, but you may end up with their phone number for later contact. I would classify the Thaniya J-Bars (Japanese Bars) as G-Clubs, but many of those have a barfine system. Pegasus is also considered a G-Club and they also have a barfine system. Memberships are promoted, but are not generally required.
AT2
[QUOTE=Kenster]Yup I thought so too. I sorta figured after reading this board that the taxi drivers aren't speaking from the kindness of their hearts when they make a recommendation.
So thankfully, we decided to give it a pass. I am contemplating heading to the Pegasus this time round. Worth the try or should I just skip it and head back to The Pent?
What about some feedback on CM2 and where I can locate some younger, albeit more expensive stunners.
Thanks so much in advance! Anyone up for a beer anyways? I'm going to be in BKK 4th. 6th. Short work related trip. (10% work, 90% pleasure)[/QUOTE]
Kenster,
Pegasus is interesting, and the advantage they have is a barfine system, which guarantees that there's the takeout option. The quality of the girls is on par with the Soi 33 bars and the pricing along the same lines. I like the Pent, but it is hit and miss and you will need to get the girls phone number and arrange a meeting during her off hours. This will happen only if she's interested in you. Leads to some nice GFE experiences if the chemistry is there. CM2 is also a nice spot to find some great looking woman. Nightclubs can be hit or miss on any given night. You should check it out. You might also want to check out the Windsor Hotel Basement Bar on Sukhumvit Soi 20.
AT2
CM2 info:
[url=http://www.cm2bkk.com/]CM2 website[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=665757&postcount=442]CM2 field report by Bandy[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=664258&postcount=406]CM2 field report by Jimmy Red Cab[/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=754380&postcount=2419]CM2 field report by Josses[/url]
Windsor Hotel Basement Bar:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=754289&postcount=2417]Field report by Love Sex 22[/url]
[QUOTE=Kenster]Hey everyone once again,
I've also read/heard that Novotel at CM2 is a good place to try in the later hours (1am. 2am).
I'm actually looking for younger girls, around 18. 25 which may also double as students/office ladies. I don't mind paying abit more but now I'm not too sure where I can get these. The Pent has them but I'm not sure if they're too up to following you back.[/QUOTE]I would skip CM2 for local stunners. I think the go-go clubs - specially the King castle - in Patpong have young good looking girls, but beware of LBs.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]N1,
Allow me to quote from another Place that I think sums it up quite well:]
That certainly answers the GClub portion of my question.
N1
Back in April (sorry for the delay in reporting) I paid a visit to Colonze 2 which is quite easy to fine and is signposted from the main road.
This place gets quite a high rating from this forum and I was not dissapointed.
Large, fresh and comfortable. I started with a beer, sat down and talked with one of the managers. I said I had heard about the Naru Naru massage and he recommended girl No 94 in the fish bowl.
So I took my time finishing the beer and checking out the girls as they sat preening themselves. In the end I took the recommendation and chose Ann, number 94.
A friendly girl, held my hand whilst I pre paid 2400 bhat for a 1 hour special Naru Naru massage. That is not particularly cheap but I wanted to try it.
The room was large and I was brought another beer whilst the bath was run. Naru Naru turns our to be some sort of very slippery soap. So after the BBBJ and wash in the bath we moved to the bed and the slippy soap was perfect for the body slide and bum & tit massage. Great stuff.
Then on to the main course and the tight young girl made me pop despite my best efforts to prolong the joy. A bit of rest and a chat and delightfully I managed another pop. She is provides a good GFE and deserves a tip.
All in all a very nice visit. I will definately visit again.
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[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Nuevo,
Coyote Bars = Bars that feature "Coyote Dancers", BKK's take on the female bartenders who danced on the bar in the Movie Coyote Ugly.
AT2[/QUOTE]
Ok. Now I know I probably won't bother with either. That's mostly because my BKK time is limited on this trip.
Take care,
N1
Gentlemen,
Thank you all for you contributions and insight. I have followed this forum for quite some time and have found it extremely informative and useful. I’ve been a contributor in the other country forums (mostly S. America and Europe), but now it’s time for my first trip to Bangkok in 10 years (but first mongering trip) and I have a couple of questions I’m hoping you can help me with.
I will have two stops in BKK. The first will be a one night layover so I want to maximize my time as much as possible. Question for this visit:
1) Hotels – I’d like to stay in a central location near the action. I’m thinking about somewhere on Sukhumvit near Soi Cowboy and/or Nana Plaza with fairly easy access to the expressway for my trip to the airport the next day. I’m considering the Majestic Grande, Dream, Royal President, Grand President or Livingston’s Lodge. Any recommendations?
2) Soapie – I've been dreaming about experiencing the body slide on the air mattress. It appears Nataree and Utopia are receiving many good reviews but it seems Utopia doesn't provide bodyslide? Is this true? Also, do the sideline girls ever provide bodyslides or is this just for the fishbowl girls?
3) Legitimate Thai massage – I’d like to try a real Thai massage (after the soapie of course). Any recommendation for a great legitimate experience? It would be a bonus if the place also had sexy masseuses, or maybe even a place that provides legitimate Thai massage either before or after the other fun stuff. Any recommendations?
4) In the evening I’m planning to check out either Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza, or both. However, ultimately I’m just looking for a stunner to take back to my hotel that night for LT. Since I only have one night, I’m willing to spend a little more money to find a really high quality girl without spending a lot of time searching, or the headaches of trial and error. I prefer girls with great bodies, and natural breasts. And I don’t care about skin tone. Would you recommend Nana or Soi Cowboy to start? Or neither? I heard Soi Cowboy has more nudity than Nana so you really know what you’re getting. And I heard Shark generally has the best looking girls in Soi Cowboy. Is this accurate?
5) Otherwise, I’d love any suggestions you all might have. I also like the idea of going to one of the high-end pick up spots such as CM2, but again, I don’t want to waste the time if this is hit or miss.
6) LT upgrade – Can you easily take the girl for ST, and then extend for LT if you end up liking her? Or, do ST girls generally stick to ST?
7) Finally, on the second leg of my trip I will be stopping over in BKK for three nights. Since I’ll have a little bit more time I’m considering heading to Pattaya for a day or two. Is Pattaya worth it?
Thanks so much for your help. I’ll be sure to provide a full report on my experiences. .
Good Times!
[QUOTE=Neidermeyer]Gentlemen,
Thank you all for you contributions and insight. I have followed this forum for quite some time and have found it extremely informative and useful. I’ve been a contributor in the other country forums (mostly S. America and Europe), but now it’s time for my first trip to Bangkok in 10 years (but first mongering trip) and I have a couple of questions I’m hoping you can help me with.
I will have two stops in BKK. The first will be a one night layover so I want to maximize my time as much as possible. Question for this visit:
1) Hotels – I’d like to stay in a central location near the action. I’m thinking about somewhere on Sukhumvit near Soi Cowboy and/or Nana Plaza with fairly easy access to the expressway for my trip to the airport the next day. I’m considering the Majestic Grande, Dream, Royal President, Grand President or Livingston’s Lodge. Any recommendations?
2) Soapie – I've been dreaming about experiencing the body slide on the air mattress. It appears Nataree and Utopia are receiving many good reviews but it seems Utopia doesn't provide bodyslide? Is this true? Also, do the sideline girls ever provide bodyslides or is this just for the fishbowl girls?
3) Legitimate Thai massage – I’d like to try a real Thai massage (after the soapie of course). Any recommendation for a great legitimate experience? It would be a bonus if the place also had sexy masseuses, or maybe even a place that provides legitimate Thai massage either before or after the other fun stuff. Any recommendations?
4) In the evening I’m planning to check out either Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza, or both. However, ultimately I’m just looking for a stunner to take back to my hotel that night for LT. Since I only have one night, I’m willing to spend a little more money to find a really high quality girl without spending a lot of time searching, or the headaches of trial and error. I prefer girls with great bodies, and natural breasts. And I don’t care about skin tone. Would you recommend Nana or Soi Cowboy to start? Or neither? I heard Soi Cowboy has more nudity than Nana so you really know what you’re getting. And I heard Shark generally has the best looking girls in Soi Cowboy. Is this accurate?
5) Otherwise, I’d love any suggestions you all might have. I also like the idea of going to one of the high-end pick up spots such as CM2, but again, I don’t want to waste the time if this is hit or miss.
6) LT upgrade – Can you easily take the girl for ST, and then extend for LT if you end up liking her? Or, do ST girls generally stick to ST?
7) Finally, on the second leg of my trip I will be stopping over in BKK for three nights. Since I’ll have a little bit more time I’m considering heading to Pattaya for a day or two. Is Pattaya worth it?
Thanks so much for your help. I’ll be sure to provide a full report on my experiences. .
Good Times![/QUOTE]
Q1: See the Hotels thread. All these places have been reviewed so do a thread search.
Right now I would choose between LL or S15 (new) for convenience and facilities. But every person has different thinking.
Q2: In a recent post in Bangkok MPs thread a few places with mattress body slide were mentioned.
Annies (I think), Darling (available from numbers over 100), Nataree, Emmanuelle, Hi Class, Victoria's Secret, Cupidy (rip-offs), J One (rip-offs), Chao Praya 2 (mostly over-weight girls in bodyslide section), Chao Praya 3, etc.
Usually bodyslide on mattress is only available from fishbowl. Higher priced "Models" are too lazy to do that sort of thing.
Utopia (expensive) has no matress but get some sort of body slide massage using bottom, tits and pussy in the bath. Even the sideline girls do this very well.
Q4: Its up to personal taste where the best girls are for looks. At Nana, Rainbow 4 is supposed to have the best girls. I didn't take one. Maybe I was too late in the evening and the best were gone. There are some good lookers in several Cowboy bars. Try Dolls House, Baccara, Shark, Long Gun. But performance doesn't always live up too looks. Its like a lucky dip.
Q7 Pattaya is more for those on a tight budget and willing to compromise on looks. If you thoughts are dominated by quality rather than quantity, then don't bother, I think.
.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Q1:
Q4:
Q7 Pattaya is more for those on a tight budget and willing to compromise on looks. If you thoughts are dominated by quality rather than quantity, then don't bother, I think.[/QUOTE]You've got that right. I just got back to Bangkok from a few days in Pattaya and saw more eye candy taking the Skytrain from Asoke to the Emporium than I did my whole time in Pattaya. For example, Angelwitch in NEP is packed with stunners; Angelwitch in Pattaya is a bit of a yawn. Some hot white strippers in that bar on Walking Street that has "European girls only" upstairs (can't miss it). Belarus might be worth a trip judging by those examples, but not Pattaya as it generally compares very poorly to Bangkok when it comes to hot women.
Hi,
before there was this huge collisseum club at Soi 42 where you could bring a girl to prepare for the night. They always loved it.
Music dancing, jokes, LB, food and booze - great place!!
It is gone since a year now. Does anybody know another place like this with address?
Appreciate,
Mike
[QUOTE=Michi]Hi,
before there was this huge collisseum club at Soi 42 where you could bring a girl to prepare for the night. They always loved it.
Music dancing, jokes, LB, food and booze - great place!!
It is gone since a year now. Does anybody know another place like this with address?
Appreciate,
Mike[/QUOTE]
Tawan Daeng. Mor lam club. Very popular with the Isaan crowd. If you're with a P4P girl, more than likely she's from Isaan and probably knows this place. 484 Pattanakarn Road, Bangkok 10250
Tawan Daeng German Beer Brewery (no relation to the above club).
462/1 Rama 3 Rd., 02-678-1114/-6. Open daily 4:30pm-1am
[url]www.tawandang.co.th[/url] (website is slow to load)
Here's a map to Tawan Daeng Mor Lam club on Pattanakarn in Thai. The best thing to do is go to Prakanong BTS station and take a taxi. Give the map to the taxi driver.
3. Sabai Sabai isn't bad for a good massage Soi 11 (generally) and extras on offer (hJ mainly)
4 - If your time is limited I'd stick to Cowboy. More nudity, better in general IMHO. Long Gun is a good start, then move on to the more hands on bars.
Tawan Daeng German Beer Brewery (no relation to the above club).
462/1 Rama 3 Rd., 02-678-1114/-6. Open daily 4:30pm-1am
[url]www.tawandang.co.th[/url] (website is slow to load)
Now there is also a Tawandaeng II on Ram Intra (sort of in the suburbs so to speak). It is slightly bigger than the one on Rama III, has a much bigger parking lot. Show/band is sort of the same. Menu and beer same as Rama III. One big difference is they licensed it as a restaurant so you can bring kids (or girls under 20) and they can not only get in, but stay for the whole show.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
Tawan Daeng German Beer Brewery (no relation to the above club).
462/1 Rama 3 Rd., 02-678-1114/-6. Open daily 4:30pm-1am
[url]www.tawandang.co.th[/url] (website is slow to load)
[/QUOTE]
Last time I was sick after eating Thai food was from this place.
But my own fault.
My friend (also not Thai) wanted to order Kung Chae Nam Plaa (raw prawns marinated in fish sauce).
We both had bad stomach after that.
I should have known better it was too risky.
not into cerviche prawns, huh? Actually, I have reservations about any raw formerly living product in muangThai.
For that matter any hot humid climate where 'refrigeration is a luxury". tends to spoil too quickly
Hooked up with some people around 9pm at Hillary II bar near Nana BTS. Excellent live bands, one with a really beautiful vocalist, I was quite taken by her, must go back for some photos. Very loud, impossible to have a conversation. Quite crowded with mostly Caucasians probably expats, lots of girls although I was not sure which ones were bar-fineable. Excellent place for a few drinks, although I am sure some actions are available.
Headed off to Q-club. Rather strange ambience, lots of white males hanging around, sort of an upscale disco. There is a cover charge of 700thb which includes one drink. Not sure what the system is, I think the girls are glad to have someone bring them in, many seem to work the round inside. Left before 1am just before they close. No actions or pickups.
Took a taxi to the basement at Winsor hotel. Similar to Q-club but a lot larger and full of people. Seem to have a lot more Thai people although I was told it is mostly an expat hangout. Several young and quite good looking girls, mostly hanging around in groups with one or two Thai guys. Again, some girls seem to be getting in, then just working the round, but mostly it was like a disco with limited action. Left around 3:30am, the place closes at 5am.
all in all, a good night hanging around with some friends for a few drinks, not too good in terms of mongering unless you like chasing some girls in a disco, better off at a sports bar or a massage place.
Hey Guys,
I went to a terrific Issan restaurant near the Siam Paragon Mall (one block off the Sky Train stop for the SP Mall). It is called Som Nam Tua and the address is 392/14 Siam Square Soi 5. It's not elegant, but the food is terrific, particularly the spicy pork and the fried chicken. Give it a try!
Hello All,
I've only ever done my whoring in Amsterdam and the German FKK clubs. These days, ONLY FKK clubs because the women there can be stunning. Not always, but often enough to keep me happy. I'm contemplating trip to Bangkok but in looking around the pix, I'm surprised at how average many of the girls are. Not all of course, but many. Anyone have any thoughts on the difference in terms of looks between FKK and Bangkok? Got to admit, I do prefer the European look, so I am biased. Maybe the pix just aint a good sample--after all sounds like there are thousands of Bangkok girls but only 40 or 50 at an fkk club on any given night. Thanks for your thoughts. If you are curious about the FKK clubs, I'm happy to help you out. I'm an expert on FKK!
[QUOTE=Dinghy]not into cerviche prawns, huh? Actually, I have reservations about any raw formerly living product in muangThai.
For that matter any hot humid climate where 'refrigeration is a luxury". tends to spoil too quickly[/QUOTE]
Sashimi is O.K. in a proper Japanese restaurant.
But I think raw prawns and raw crab is not a great idea.
I don't even eat raw shellfish except for the Hoi Maeng Phoo Ying or Hoi Nang Saao varieties (lady ones) LOL :)
[QUOTE=Beagleface]Hello All,
I've only ever done my whoring in Amsterdam and the German FKK clubs. These days, ONLY FKK clubs because the women there can be stunning. . . [/QUOTE]
Having visited many FKK's and BKK, Phuket & Pattaya many times, I will give you my take on the differences. I also like the Eastern European look, but I must first admit I like the slim girls without big curves regardless of the continent. Even at FKK's not all girls are stunners, but the sheer quantity of Thai girls guarantees you finding the perfect girl (or near perfect). The biggest factors are Attitude and Cost. The thai attitude gets lost in these postings some times, but they are VERY customer focused. The want to please you and many get upset if the cannot totally satisfy you. There is no sense of "clock watching" as ST is generally 2 hours and LT 6-8 hours. With all of the competition, the likelihood of a second customer that night is low, so they try harder to establish a repeat customer (never say you are there for 2 days even if you are). Last is cost. At a FKK I found myself double sessioning a girl if we really hit it off. So that is 100Euro for one hour.(50-70Euro entrance fee not included) In Thailand that 100Euro can buy you five 2 hour sessions or 2.5 days with a thai girlfriend if you like a 24 hour tour guide girlfriend. The decision is not really too difficult! Throw in the good food, exotic landscape of Phuket, the beach, cheap hotels, great weather (even in rainy season, there are more good days than bad) and you cannot go wrong on visiting Thailand at least once. But be prepared to be spoiled and never look at the FKK scene the same ever again. You have been warned! Good luck. Tschusses.
Well, I just spent the past 48 hours, drunk, "doing" Bangkok, litteraly. Stayed at the Majestic Grande as planned. 3, 300 Baht for the night, and the 24hrs wi-fi is 390 baht (not 550 as I previoulsy read somewhere in this forum). Room is great, service also, 4-star hotel quality means everything you need! Quick service weather it is asking for extra complimentary tootbrusheS (for the ladieS, at no extra charge. Nor for the toothbrushes, nor for extra guests, it is confirmed), or wether it is asking for room service (160 baht for exotic fruit platter for bed fun, meals and starters are between 150 and 300 baht, drinks are. I don't know. Stopped checking the price at some point: P)
Did Patpong, Nana Plaza, and Soi Cowboy. I have to agree with previous reports, Soi Cowboy is the best place for farangs wanting to just relax and enjoy the show, with maybe one or two ladies at their side having a nice drink. Of course you get your usual grabbing girls shouting "u hannnsum man" left and right and sometimes having a go at your family jewels, but the mood is playfull and not harrassing, and the street is simply laid back, very well lit with neon lights all over the place. And many places had full bare dancing which is a plus. Drinks 110-150 baht.
Patpong was way too crowded for my liking and bars where dark and too "back-alley type". Girls were fairly lighter skinned than Soi Cowboy, but did not seem happy to be, and occasional smiles seemed forced and simply not attractive.
Reached Nana plaza near my hotel late around 1am, still buzzing with people everywhere, went right accros the street to the pharmacy "booth" counter, and asked for kamagra jelly (100 baht per satchet), and tried it, worked better than viagra for me (I'm 27, but it manhood supplments still help when you spent the evening with Johnie Walker). Two verry cute girls jumped me, freelancers, didn't feel like role playing my background story, so plainly told them I'm a new farang that jhust got into town. Although warned many times in this forum not to take FL, I took them to eat at their choice some good local food, didn't catch the places name, but total for 3 was about 500 baht with soft drinks and tips. Took them back to the Majestic Grande, no hassle at door, FS, 2000 baht each with a smile, and security called me to make sure everything was ok when the girls left, which I greatly appreciated.
Next day took a nice "beyonce" type full-girl from Apache Coyote (I think), her name was Tik, very sweet, sexiest natural breat I ever saw, Back to hotel, a little disapointed because no BJ (! ), but she was 19, new in town and a little shy, so I didn't force her but the finale on her beautifel chest and neck was worth it, and her satisfied smile afterwards. I think it was maybe her first time (or maybe I'm just an innocent farang), becase she was soo curious watching me come as if she had never seen it, and was proudly smiling that she made me.
Sent her out with a ass-tap and 2k baht (I like to sleep alone, even if I paid for Long Time, for Tik and the two nana FL's earlier, which I forgot to mention).
Anyways, woke up at 10am, caught up with the very good breakfast buffet on the 7th floor, groomed and checked out, and now live at the internet center looking for a good hotel in Pattaya. A few taxis said 1, 500baht and 2 hrs from Bangkok, and so did the hotel taxi service. I guess I might get cheaper if I go straight to Sukhumvit rd.
Met two nice German expats living in Bangkok on my first night in Soi Cowboy, tagged along, and as they spoke good Thai and seemed to be well known from all the bars, I got somewhat VIP service tour of the best places on Soi Cowboy. I don't think they would mind me using their Bangkok names, Tony and Jerry, and hope they are part of this forum so that I can get their contact if somebody knows them.
I lost their contact card, drunk at the hotel, and could't call them to go with them to Pattaya, as planned the day before.
Oh yeah, and I got ripped off at the Cupid's Massage parlor. Choice was exceptional, more than 80 girls, 30 behind glass for full time girls, and 50 sitting on the side for part time girls. Ripped off because was told 4, 000 FS for 2 hrs for full time girls, and 5, 000 for part time girls, and price was reduced to 3, 000 and 4, 000 after a little chit chat with the "man in suit". Got #143, JOY, simply the prettiest boobies I ever saw or touched, I have pic will post later, and very sweet girl, good body to body slide, slow BBBJ, but no CIM . On my way out, asked some customers what the real rate is, they said maybe 2000-2500 for 2 hours. I knew it, but didn't care too much since it was my first stop in Bangkok, and just wanted to get a good soapie after my long travel. But I don't think I will got there anymore, just because I got ripped off. (The girl tells me she gets 950baht from whatever I pay, gave her 1000 extra, sp 5, 000 baht for 2 hours is waaaay to expensinve from what I've read and heard)
Allright I guess my "report" is kind of all mixed up with somewhat relevant information, but I'll make sure to report back in an orderly fashion with pics and exact names and numbers when I get back home in 4 days, for now let's see what Pattaya is all about.
Cheers,
Jay
[QUOTE=Beagleface]Hello All,
I've only ever done my whoring in Amsterdam and the German FKK clubs. These days, ONLY FKK clubs because the women there can be stunning. Not always, but often enough to keep me happy. I'm contemplating trip to Bangkok but in looking around the pix, I'm surprised at how average many of the girls are. Not all of course, but many. Anyone have any thoughts on the difference in terms of looks between FKK and Bangkok? Got to admit, I do prefer the European look, so I am biased. Maybe the pix just aint a good sample--after all sounds like there are thousands of Bangkok girls but only 40 or 50 at an fkk club on any given night. Thanks for your thoughts. If you are curious about the FKK clubs, I'm happy to help you out. I'm an expert on FKK![/QUOTE]
There is a world of difference between the FKK scene and Thailand. No way to really compare the two.
[QUOTE=Beagleface]Hello All,
I've only ever done my whoring in Amsterdam and the German FKK clubs. These days, ONLY FKK clubs because the women there can be stunning. Not always, but often enough to keep me happy. I'm contemplating trip to Bangkok but in looking around the pix, I'm surprised at how average many of the girls are. Not all of course, but many. Anyone have any thoughts on the difference in terms of looks between FKK and Bangkok? Got to admit, I do prefer the European look, so I am biased. Maybe the pix just aint a good sample--after all sounds like there are thousands of Bangkok girls but only 40 or 50 at an fkk club on any given night. Thanks for your thoughts. If you are curious about the FKK clubs, I'm happy to help you out. I'm an expert on FKK![/QUOTE]
LOL Sometimes the pics aren't a good sample. It suprises me how guys are happy to paste very ugly pics at times including those whose looks cause geneder questions to be asked. Perhaps the stunning girls are less willing to be protographed.
If you prefer the European look you might be disappointed.
Its true that FKK has some ordinary lookers but also some incredibly stunning girls but at a much higher price than here in Thailand. 50 Euro for 30 mins in FKK (not including entrance) but here you would get a minimum of 2 hours and quite possibly the whole night in the right place.
Ask yourself this question. When in FKK, have you selected and really enjoyed a Thai girl or two? If not, then its hard to see any point coming here. If you have, then will you get bored with hundreds of them available?
Service is always dependent on the girl.
At certain places here, you can get exotic extras without paying the huge extra fees like at FKK.
I hate Amsterdam but like German FKK and BKK also.
I get on the BTS. I am soon looking at identical twin girls standing next to each other, both wearing black and same hairstyle, well not quite identical. One is slightly taller, slightly finer features, and slightly lighter skin than the other (wouldn't be great to be the less attractive one although both are good looking).
Then I turn and I am looking at the back of my GF, well almost. Nearly the same slender figure, same skin tone, same redish dark blonde dyed hair, dress style same, Farang style with singlette, bra and jeans, shoulders exposed.
Could easily be my GF but seems about 3 inches taller, and bum and hips don't look as juicy as my GF (a bit less curvy). I move position to see the face. Sunglasses like my GF but nose is far too big. In fact face is not great at all. A bit masculine really. Tits look a bit fake too. Braces on the teeth. O.K. my GF is way better.
She gets the telephone out. O.K. I want to hear the voice. "Naa taek"!. Its as I feared. A rather masculine voice. I have been checking out a LB. :eek:
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]
She gets the telephone out. O.K. I want to hear the voice. "Naa taek"!. Its as I feared. A rather masculine voice. I have been checking out a LB. :eek:[/QUOTE]
Oh my god... and all this time I took you for a straight guy! LOL
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I have been checking out a LB. :eek:[/QUOTE]
:eek: Sweet Jumpin Jesus..... I know you said you were having a rough time but christ.... get to a soapy or something quick.... ;)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Oh my god... and all this time I took you for a straight guy! LOL[/QUOTE]
Its O.K. I am not going to change sides. But yesterday after Infinty JC, I did quick survey of the downstairs go-go bars in Pat Pong. There is no where near the pretty girls that Pat Pong used to have years ago. So Nana and Cowboy guys should not bother to go to Pat Pong.
The girls bodies looked very average even compared to the LB bars there LOL. Thankfully Cowboy doesn't have these LB bars.
Checked out a few bars in Cowboy the other night.
Shark had some pretty girls but place was not too exciting. Long Gun going down hill. Not many pretty girls at all left.
Spice Girls Coyote O.K. for a quick look.
Sister place "Our Place" also has Coyote but was a bit more exciting. One tallish golden blonde was a provocative crazy dancer, really not shy at all. Took my fancy but I had a girl in tow, so couldn't really proposition the blonde on the spot. Not sure if they go and how steep is the price. But if she doesn't go, I would have to say she was an incredible tease the way she was looking at me.
I will be arriving at Bangkok airport from Malaysia and clearing the airport at
about 7.30pm Bangkok time.Will there be a direct bus to the guest houses in Khao San Road at that time and how much will the fare be?
I do not want to stay at mongering areas for a change this trip.Thanks fellas
[QUOTE=Member #3173]I will be arriving at Bangkok airport from Malaysia and clearing the airport at about 7.30pm Bangkok time.Will there be a direct bus to the guest houses in Khao San Road at that time and how much will the fare be?
I do not want to stay at mongering areas for a change this trip.Thanks fellas[/QUOTE]Take the A2 bus at the expensive price of 150 baths (11/2007 price) or a mini van for 60 baths+60 baths for your bag, or take the orange bus to victory monument, I forgot the number) around 35 baths and the red bus 99 to democraty moneument all for less than 50 baths
But in Khao San Road you are in the largest mongering place of Bangkok.
I missed Stickmans weekly column for some weeks now - so I had some reading to do today. One of his pieces is [again] about one very old and often repeated issue: Sponsorship.
[URL]http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickMarkII/BargirlSponsorshipDoesntWork.htm[/URL]
Remarkable is that even if the male part of the sponsorship contract finds out the truth he tends not to believe it and hopes to somehow make the relationship work. And even worse - getting a PE involved to check out the background of a girl, finding then that she has many sponsors, and still not believing it - this cannot happen to all of you readers, I know, but I see it happening so many times :(:(:( ...
Read it - AND KEEP IT IN MIND.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]I missed Stickmans weekly column for some weeks now - so I had some reading to do today. One of his pieces is [again] about one very old and often repeated issue: Sponsorship.
[URL]http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickMarkII/BargirlSponsorshipDoesntWork.htm[/URL]
Remarkable is that even if the male part of the sponsorship contract finds out the truth he tends not to believe it and hopes to somehow make the relationship work. And even worse - getting a PE involved to check out the background of a girl, finding then that she has many sponsors, and still not believing it - this cannot happen to all of you readers, I know, but I see it happening so many times :(:(:( ...
Read it - AND KEEP IT IN MIND.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
YAWN! But, at the same time amusing. Some guys continue to be so stupid. Sohm naam naa
[QUOTE=Giotto] I know, but I see it happening so many times :(:(:( ...
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Just goes to show you that the girl with her butt in the air is not necessarily the dumb one in the room. After all, she's the one who speaks multiple languages, sets up the transaction, and leaves the room with more money in her pocket than when she entered.
what's the deal w/condoms in bkk? as mentioned in previous post, i'm used to fkk where the bbbj is commonplace, and which i love (needless to say), especially finishing in the mouth. yippee! is this common in bkk or is it never done? sex with condom i assume--tho i seem to recall reading here and there that thais hate condoms? who konws. what's your experience? thanks for your help--never been to bkk before and trying to learn about it before i go.
[QUOTE=Beagleface]Is this common in BKK or is it never done?[/QUOTE]In all the years getting bbbj and cim never has been a problem for me. I only can remember one single girl that wanted to give "just" cbj. But my experience is only related to girls from beer bars and go-go bars and freelancers.
Obviously at a massage parlour it's different.
Anyway it's not a big thing to ask the girl if the is willing to perform the "things" you expect from her before sealing the deal. Then you know.
Typical routine in BKK/Pat is 5 min BBBJ then covered sex 'til happy.
Hey Bangkok forum. Long time no see. I've got a bit of a selfish request if one of you kind mongers wouldn't mind indulging me. I'm looking for a girl...when I was there in 2006 she worked in Rainbow 3 in NEP. Of course after two years, she may not be in the business at all or she may have moved. So, for any mongers in Bangkok, if you happen to be heading to NEP would you mind just stopping in and asking about her? If anyone is actually willing to do it I have her name and a pic I can show you.
The only thing I can really offer you in return for your kindness is to buy you a beer if I do make it to Bangkok next month.
Got in late (9pm) on Tuesday, stayed at the Landmark as usual.
This trip 5 nights in BKK, but had some colleges coming so only 2 nights completely free. Stopped for a beer at the Huntsman bar, and planned to head over to my pool bar, and maybe pickup a girl that I took out last time.
Ran into a freebie girl I planned to see at the Huntsman (I had emailed her and planned to call her the next day). Ok, I wanted to see her, so just adjust the plans. It was funny, she had seen me, but I did not see her, but she watched me for awhile to see if I was looking for a girl. She knows she is not the only one, so not an issue. She spent the night. Always a nice time.
Next day, I contacted my fav at Tulip, but she was on holiday that day. Headed over to the Beer Garden about 3pm, and found myself looking at a very nice girl across the bar, and played the smile game for awhile. I motioned for her to come sit next to me, once the seat was vacant. ST 1500, nice girl, very nice C cups, my guess about 35" (natural). No baby scares.
The next two days were all work and no fun. Although I did go down to the Huntsman club on Thur night. Right near closing time, I lovely girl caught my eye across the bar. I had noticed a couple girls there, but they seemed to be having a good time talking together. I was listening to the band. Etc and had to get up early for a meeting. When the band finished and the lights went on, I found her looking at me and smiling. Wow, I immediately got up and walked over to her. We chatted a few minutes, and I explained I had to get up early, but got her number. Excellent English. Nice clothes, nails, did I say great smile? . Not sure if she was freebie, my thinking was not a full time working girl, but earns some money from time to time. I asked her where else she goes, and she listed CM2, Spasso's. A few others, then I knew if I see her, I would have to pay.
Sent her a message on Friday, as I thought maybe could arrange to meet her later in the evening after my dinner. But she did not return the message.
Saturday, my colleges left at noon. I called Tulip, but my fav was out sick for the day. Decided to stop at Angel's. A few girls I have been with were not in the book. But found a sweet looking girl, Lisa that caught my eye. She looked better in person than the picture. Looked like very nice breast, but maybe it was the special bra? Quiet girl. It was strange in the room, as she asked me to get into the shower, then she followed me and still had her bra on, with a towel wrapped around her. I said, how can you shower like that, and she said, "Oh, do you want special services? " I said yes, of course. And she said, "what you want, hand job, or blow job or everything? " I answered "everything", she smiled and said ok. Stepped out, and then returned naked. Wow. No scares, nice stomach and those were real 35C's she had. Nice and firm too.
Great massage. Very good BJ and sex. But she kind of massaged too long, and the sex got kind of rushed at the end. (it takes me awhile to finish). Would see her again when I am there.
Had some shopping to do. And afterwards was to meet a business college for dinner at 7pm. Stoppped in the HRC about 6:15 for a beer (well 2-1 at that time). And noticed a nice looking girl at the bar a few seats over. I ordered, and my phone started to ring. I walked into the corner area so I could hear, and I heard a girls voice say, "turn around Mark". Well the girl was the one I met at the Huntsman club the other night! When she let out her big smile, I remembered. She gave me some crap about not remembering her, and I gave her some about not returning my sms. She apologized for her appearance, as she was wearing shorts, and had been shopping. She looked great to me.
She is 29 she told me. I would have guessed 24. Getting her degree at the university, paying her own way. (hmm), She was there with a girl friend, had a pitcher of beer and a large sample platter. Planned to hand out there until 10pm then go to CM2 nearby. I told her I had to go to dinner, and she asked me if I wanted to come back and join her. I told her fine, and she gave me a peck on the cheek when I was leaving. Had dinner. Stopped back at the hotel to freshen and back to the HRC at 10pm. They charge a cover, but if you have an all access card, you get in free (plus 10% discount on food and drinks). She was still at the bar, but when I saw her, she was talking with a guy next to her. She seemed surprised to see me. But I heard her friend tell her, "I knew he was a good guy and would come back to see you". Well, I told her, if she met someone else, no problem, I had other things to do. And she said no, I just was talking to him, please stay. Ya, ya, ya.
The guy was from France, nice guy. Had a picther of beer there, and when I finished my draft, refilled my glass. Seemed weird, as maybe we were both jockying for the same girl. About 11, headed over to CM2. He and the friend went in, since he stayed there, they were free. I had to pay the 650 x 2 cover. Last time I was there it was 500. Got a few of the drinks you get with the coupon. It was obvious my friend has been around as she knew many guys and girls there. The two girls had some conversation. Then the girl I met and the French guy were gone for awhile. And the girlfriend asked me. "you like my friend? " and I told her yes, and she said that she likes you too, but will have to tell the other guy something. I said that she should say, I like him, and she likes you, so it will work out. A few minutes later, "my" girl came back, and the French guy smiled, and went off with the other girl. Weird. But so be it.
So my friend knew I had an early flight, but we had not talked about going back to my hotel. Or anything. Kind or stange. I suppose she knew she had me. And I knew she was probably asking 5000 as most of the girls do that hand here and Spasso's. I was attracted to her and wanted her. Maybe foolish, but figured, if I walk away now, not much chance of getting anything else. And still maybe a waste.
Sure enough. I asked her to go to my hotel with me. She confirmed I needed to check out by 7am. And I aske dhow much. She wanted me to say how much I would give her. She said I know you get around, you told me you used to stay at the Hyatt. So you know. I guess I should have low balled to maybe 3000 or 3500. But told her to say, and she said she asks 5000. She said I know it is more than most, but I only go with men I am attracted to and that I can be sure to give a good time. The stuff about paying her way through school. Against all my past instincts I said ok. I figured I had this much time and money invested so far. What the heck. I really liked this girls personality and looks and body. Maybe I should not have let myself get into this situation, but here I was.
Got into the taxi and I could see she had much to drink. And now figured, she will just fall asleep in my room. Stopped at a stand outside Nana as she was hungry. She insisted on paying for the food. And bought some medicine in the drugstore. She said it was to keep her from being tired tomorrow, as when she goes back to her place, she needed to finish some school work.
Showered separtely in the room. She first, then she ate as I did. And into the bed. Her body was great, and she was alive, passionate. And very attentive. Great DFK. BBBJ. And nice and tight sex. Various positions. Extremely passionate time together. I take awhile to come, and being it was late and tired, after some time, started to loose some power. She quickly got me back up, and spread her legs. Saying, give me more.
She said she came 3 times, and could not believe I did not cum once. And seemed to feel bad. I told her, it was not her problem. And I was very happy.
To me it was worth every cent. Alarm rand a few hours later. And she woke up amazingly pleasant. And reached down between my legs. Kissing my neck and chest, and then said, "you have another condom? ".
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[QUOTE=Giotto]And even worse - getting a PE involved to check out the background of a girl[/QUOTE]You've got to wonder if these farang "investigators" have ever found a sponsored girl who *wasn't* still on the game.
The whole story was depressingly predictable, but I did like the line at the end: "She hates the client now. In her mind he is the one at fault. Not her."
They really do think like that -- everything was fine till he went and ruined it.
[QUOTE=Veterano]Typical routine in BKK/Pat is 5 min BBBJ then covered sex 'til happy. [/QUOTE]Covered sex.- Yes. But BBBJ with CIM is pretty much standard procedure at any BJ bar or with any P4P girl in BKK/Pattaya/Phuket/Koh Samui/Chiang Mai/et al. There might be a few who will object (either object to CIM or even might want a condom), but if they let you finish in their mouth, it is almost always without condom (the BJ part, not the sex part). There are also some guys who play it totally safe and insist on a condom during a BJ. Up to you.
Last night around 1 AM an absolutely stunning freelancer was sitting near my hotel. Probably the best looking girl I have seen all trip. Hard to understand why someone so stunning would be in this situation. Being a monger, it was very difficult to just pass her by, but I managed it. If I had have been horny at the time, would probably have lost the battle.
Always a sucker for extremely beautiful girls.
I should have at least brazenly taken her photo and then pissed off.
Hi Mick,
There was some reference to a list you had posted some time back. I did a search for Soapy MP list.doc but no luck. Would you remember in which thread you posted it?
Thanks
MM
[QUOTE=M Squared]Hi Mick,
There was some reference to a list you had posted some time back. I did a search for Soapy MP list.doc but no luck. Would you remember in which thread you posted it?
Thanks
MM[/QUOTE]
Searches are fussy. If you are too specific you won't get an exact match.
Well the Bangkok MPs Thread is a start or "Reports of Distinction"
Here is the link:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730486&postcount=3942[/url]
It is all referenced from the Soapies Map:
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.762395,100.562668&spn=0.114212,0.167198&z=13[/url]
The map is more up to date but has less information.
Thanks Mick,
I must say that the reports are exhaustive and amazing in detail. I loved Giotto's reports also. A big bunch of stag friends planning on spending a weekend in Bangkok. I will post some reports after that. With all the info from you guys, we should have a great time.
We are planning on staying on Sukhumvit Soi 16. Is it walking distance from Soi Cowboy & Nana or you need to cab it?
MM
[QUOTE=M Squared]We are planning on staying on Sukhumvit Soi 16. Is it walking distance from Soi Cowboy & Nana or you need to cab it?
MM[/QUOTE]Cowboy is just across Sukhumvit road :) Enjoy!
[QUOTE=M Squared]Thanks Mick,
I must say that the reports are exhaustive and amazing in detail. I loved Giotto's reports also. A big bunch of stag friends planning on spending a weekend in Bangkok. I will post some reports after that. With all the info from you guys, we should have a great time.
We are planning on staying on Sukhumvit Soi 16. Is it walking distance from Soi Cowboy & Nana or you need to cab it?
MM[/QUOTE]
Soi 16 is just off soi 21. Cowboy is between 21 and 23. Depending on which end of 16 you are staying on (it's a reasonably long soi), it's about a 5-20 minute walk to Cowboy. If you're down the far end towards soi Pai Singto/Rama IV, and don't want to walk, take a motorcycle taxi. A regular taxi would be awkward from there.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Soi 16 is just off soi 21. Cowboy is between 21 and 23. Depending on which end of 16 you are staying on (it's a reasonably long soi), it's about a 5-20 minute walk to Cowboy. If you're down the far end towards soi Pai Singto/Rama IV, and don't want to walk, take a motorcycle taxi. A regular taxi would be awkward from there.[/QUOTE]
Soi 16 is also an uncommon Soi IMHO... many taxi drivers do not know it that well. Staying at Sommerset Lake Point it was a hassle many times getting a taxi. If you are just going to Cowboy then you are right a motorbike taxi is a few baht and a quick trip from the far end even. They did have a tuk tuk however that would take you up and down the road to either the MRT station (by Queen Sirikit) or the Soi 21. A few other properties on that Soi had tuk tuks also.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]... There is no where near the pretty girls that Pat Pong used to have years ago. So Nana and Cowboy guys should not bother to go to Pat Pong.
The girls bodies looked very average even compared to the LB bars there LOL.
Checked out a few bars in Cowboy the other night.
Shark had some pretty girls but place was not too exciting. Long Gun going down hill. Not many pretty girls at all left...[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that the mongering scene in Thailand is currently dying off - it is a long process, but it is dying. The generations of Thai (sorry, Isaan) girls coming up now are each successively much smaller than their predecessors due to nearly nil population growth, while simultaneously the economy is improving, offering other employment opportunties, and the government is adopting an anti-sex role. So it comes as no surprise that we have already lost the prettiest girls, and are left mostly with the 30-something hags. There are of course still a few attractive ones but nothing like before, and their attitude and service only get worse, while their prices skyrockets. Enjoy while you can.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Keep in mind that the mongering scene in Thailand is currently dying off - it is a long process, but it is dying.
...[/QUOTE]Stupid Nonsense!
There are much more places where girls can work now. I think there are even more girls working in this business than before, but there are so many bars/massage parlours/clubs, that the number of girls in each of those joints seams to be lower.
And - luckily there not too many girls going with customers for THB 500,00 any more. And with those girls disappearing - I hope that also mongers like you will disappear sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.
I am so sick and tired of this shit. I argued in the Cambodia forum where guys try to keep prices low - US$ 10 ST and US $ 20 LT. You cannot even buy a pizza in New York for this amount ... disgusting, this argumentation!
Giotto
The number of dirt poor girls is decreasing but the pay from the trade is still much better than that available elsewhere in the eeconomy. There is also the local demand.
There are a few years yet...............just pay a little more.
[QUOTE=Giotto]Stupid Nonsense!
There are much more places where girls can work now. I think there are even more girls working in this business than before, but there are so many bars/massage parlours/clubs, that the number of girls in each of those joints seams to be lower.
And - luckily there not too many girls going with customers for THB 500,00 any more. And with those girls disappearing - I hope that also mongers like you will disappear sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.
I am so sick and tired of this shit. I argued in the Cambodia forum where guys try to keep prices low - US$ 10 ST and US $ 20 LT. You cannot even buy a pizza in New York for this amount ... disgusting, this argumentation!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Giotto, that is a very good post, some of these gents are not happy unless they are getting girls for a pittance ---- most Bangkok girls have now wised up and tell whem where to put their 500 baht.
The funny thing is though, the less that take 500B, the more there are that now fuck for free. Don't you love the internet and what it has generated.
This is a key issue for Bangkok, in the past 500B and you could be as ugly, as fat, as obnoxious as you wanted to be, you could still get sex for 500B.
Now, if the girls do not like you, you pay more, or don't fuck.
Or, if you are decent looking, you can now fuck for free via spending time on the net through the various ways its possible.
So there is a whole load of mongers, who now have to pay more, or depart Thailand and go off to Cambodia, or Indonesia to get "cheaper" sex.
[QUOTE=Giotto]Stupid Nonsense!
There are much more places where girls can work now. I think there are even more girls working in this business than before, but there are so many bars/massage parlours/clubs, that the number of girls in each of those joints seams to be lower.
And - luckily there not too many girls going with customers for THB 500,00 any more. And with those girls disappearing - I hope that also mongers like you will disappear sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.
I am so sick and tired of this shit. I argued in the Cambodia forum where guys try to keep prices low - US$ 10 ST and US $ 20 LT. You cannot even buy a pizza in New York for this amount ... disgusting, this argumentation!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Soi 16 is also an uncommon Soi IMHO... many taxi drivers do not know it that well. Staying at Sommerset Lake Point it was a hassle many times getting a taxi. If you are just going to Cowboy then you are right a motorbike taxi is a few baht and a quick trip from the far end even. They did have a tuk tuk however that would take you up and down the road to either the MRT station (by Queen Sirikit) or the Soi 21. A few other properties on that Soi had tuk tuks also.[/QUOTE]
I live on soi 16 and I somehow manage to get around. :D
[QUOTE=Giotto]
And - luckily there not too many girls going with customers for THB 500,00 any more. And with those girls disappearing - I hope that also mongers like you will disappear sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.Giotto[/QUOTE]
In his defense, Opebo's just trying to make his paltry 35,000/month stretch as far as it can. You can't blame the guy for lamenting the loss of the 500 baht shag, the loss of those pretty "dirt poor farmgirls", and the improving economy. Hell, he doesn't even have enough money to buy condoms. :D
Give the guy a break.
[QUOTE=Giotto]
And - luckily there not too many girls going with customers for THB 500,00 any more. And with those girls disappearing - I hope that also mongers like you will disappear sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
You are clearly in a privileged position, with your lodge on So1 33. If you can keep your head above water with your "over the top" barfines, then that's fine. There will always be people with money prepared to pay excessive amounts for pussy.
But there are also those that perhaps live here or come on holiday and have a limited budget. They don't expect to get classy Giotto girls, and are quite happy to pay a paltry sum for a streetwalker. then they can have a girl every day if they desire. Even at 500bt, it is 3/4 times what she would get in her Isaan village, when work is available, and most times it is not. And if you were familiar with village life you would know that many of the "500bt girls" give it for free, or a couple of Sang Soms to the village boys on a regular basis.
So you stick with your expensive girls and leave the cheap ones to the rest of us.
At the end of the day a Pussy is a Pussy!
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]You are clearly in a privileged position, with your lodge on So1 33. If you can keep your head above water with your "over the top" barfines, then that's fine. There will always be people with money prepared to pay excessive amounts for pussy.
But there are also those that perhaps live here or come on holiday and have a limited budget. They don't expect to get classy Giotto girls, and are quite happy to pay a paltry sum for a streetwalker. then they can have a girl every day if they desire. Even at 500bt, it is 3/4 times what she would get in her Isaan village, when work is available, and most times it is not. And if you were familiar with village life you would know that many of the "500bt girls" give it for free, or a couple of Sang Soms to the village boys on a regular basis.
So you stick with your expensive girls and leave the cheap ones to the rest of us.
At the end of the day a Pussy is a Pussy![/QUOTE]
What makes this forum so "interesting" are debates such as this; between "privileged" elitists like Giotto, smug as he is in his palatial digs on soi 33, surrounded my all those "classy", over-priced beauties, and the "back-to-nature", simple-living Farang Bugsida, living with their ugly, ex-BG, Isaan farm wives in some backwater, Isaan shithole. Of course, I'm sure they have the big "baan Farang" in the village and are the envy of everyone, not to mention possessing, as they do heaps of genuine grass-roots knowledge of Thai/Isaan culture.
Ya. t'aint nothin' better than gettin' down wit' da locals.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I live on soi 16 and I somehow manage to get around. :D[/QUOTE]
But you are super OTH :) I am just little peon ;) (OK fat peon)
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]What makes this forum so "interesting" are debates such as this; between "privileged" elitists like Giotto, smug as he is in his palatial digs on soi 33, surrounded my all those "classy", over-priced beauties, and the "back-to-nature", simple-living Farang Bugsida, living with their ugly, ex-BG, Isaan farm wives in some backwater, Isaan shithole. Of course, I'm sure they have the big "baan Farang" in the village and are the envy of everyone, not to mention possessing, as they do heaps of genuine grass-roots knowledge of Thai/Isaan culture.
Ya. t'aint nothin' better than gettin' down wit' da locals.[/QUOTE]
An interesting forum - certainly
Ugly Isaan farm wives- not necessarily. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder -some of the girls posted by yourself and others do nothing for many of us. Just look at the Miss Thailand contenders - all spit and polished. Give me an Isaan farm girl anyday! Not too many airs and graces on them!
Isaan shitholes. Disagree. Bangkok with its chaos and pollution, and "charge the farangs more" is not for everyone. Have you spent any time in Isaan? There are good parts and bad parts. What about the slums and no go areas of Bangkok? If it suits you - fine. No need to denegrate those of us who are happier close to nature.
I wonder how many of you and your kind, on your above average teaching salaries, would consider relocating to Isaan if you could earn the same money. Or would you miss all your "Hi_So" and "those in the know" connections?
[quote=beagleface]what's the deal w/condoms in bkk? as mentioned in previous post, i'm used to fkk where the bbbj is commonplace, and which i love (needless to say), especially finishing in the mouth. yippee! is this common in bkk or is it never done? sex with condom i assume--tho i seem to recall reading here and there that thais hate condoms? who konws. what's your experience? thanks for your help--never been to bkk before and trying to learn about it before i go.[/quote]it's pretty much all over the map. i've had bbbj cim from go-go and mp girls this trip, and cbj from mp girls and freelancers, and even a couple of freelancers and one go-go girl (!) who didn't "smoke." but the way to bet it is that bbbj is pretty common with bar girls and freelancers, and farang oriented mps like annies and aviva, and less common at the ratchada road mps. i've had a couple of girls this trip who've made a point of swallowing, rather than spitting, but i don't canvas this stuff in advance with them, it's more of nice surprise.
also, the girls who didn't "smoke" were very young - 19, 20 - and very inexperienced. the go-go girl had just started working in the bar and was absolutely fantastic once she warmed up, and the other two were real cuties too - looked exactly like those schoolgirls in their white shirts and blue skirts (and one of them was a student) - so i didn't mind that they didn't "smoke."
to increase your chances that your experience will be to your tastes try eden or tulip. (i'd say "guaranteed" but i don't want to jinx you.)
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]I wonder how many of you and your kind, on your above average teaching salaries, would consider relocating to Isaan if you could earn the same money. Or would you miss all your "Hi_So" and "those in the know" connections?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I've been there and also speak a reasonable amount of the lingo.
I would NEVER live in Isaan, even if I had a million dollars. My GF comes from there and absolutely hates it. The main reason for her opinion is the fact that the famous friendliness of Isaan people is actually a superficial sham. I couldn't agree more. They are among the biggest gossips and back-stabbers, not-to-mention opportunists when someone with money is around. Her brother recently got married. Unfortunately he "married down" resulting in low-life riff-raff from his new wife's village showing up to eat all the food, drink all the booze and have their hands out repeatedly for more and more. Since my GF's family have money, all these people were quite brazen in asking for all manner of things. The bride's scum family contributed nothing to the proceedings and yet expected a sin sord of 130,000 + 3 baht of gold, far more than the girl, considering her status was worth.
Also, in a culture generally famous for laziness, Isaan people generally reign supreme above all other groups in the country.
No, if I had the same salary, I'd live somewhere like Krabi, Phuket or Hua Hin.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]But you are super OTH :) I am just little peon ;) (OK fat peon)[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm a super, fat peon. :D
Anyway...taxi out of 16, turn left onto Rachadapisek, go about 300 metres, u-turn, turn right at the lights at Asoke to 23, turn left and stop at the top of Cowboy.
I arrived in the new airport as I didn’t go to Bangkok for the last 2 years already and the new airport is nice.
We were pick up by our supplier in the airport and sent to their office and discuss business and ding dong ding dong it is around 5 pm and after that we went for a late lunch, I almost die of starvation, damn hungry.
After late lunch,check in into the good old hotel The Emerald Hotel in Rachadapisek area that I use to patronize until today as it is a strategic location all the fun place and at one time the Spark Disco at the basement of The Emerald Hotel is THE place for FL for Jap, Hong Kies, Singaporean and of course Malaysia Chinese. So that is how I get it to be my company panel of hotels to achieve corporate price.
• 6:00pm - Check in hotel and have a quick shower as the 32 degrees heat in Bangkok made my manly smell all over me.
• 7:00pm – Made some call to my friend’s friend and she arrived with 4 girls (ex-pent-house) excluding herself – damage dunno didn’t ask as not interested
• 7:30pm - After some coffee and chit chat, went for dinner and I am still full from the late lunch….talk cock and polish up my rusty Thai.
• The girls were driving Honda Civic new and they are Becky, Kat, Noi, the last one couldn’t remember …..Sorry! We had the dinner in a romantic restaurant with the table on top in the man-made lake and the stage of singers in the middle of the lake.
• All were not in my buddy taste so give some taxi money and they sent us back to hotel
• 9:30 pm – Walk to nearby original decent Thai foot massage…..fall asleep as the previous night late night not enough sleep
• 10:45 pm – We hop all the massage joint there is on the left hand side of The Emerald Hotel – Subway, Natatree, Emmualle Club, Claudia Club, and a few more and last but not least we end up having a soapy session in Poseidon.
• 11:30pm – Took a girl name Inn at Poseidon (3rd Floor) and she is talkative and fun as I always refrain myself from speaking Thai to add to the fun.
Name: Inn
Age: 25
Boobs : ~36C (boobs very firm and ask her whether got silicon, she laugh and answer…her secret…KNS)
Skin : tan like normal Thai gal but damn kau smooth
face: 8/10 (wild look and playful look)
FK: Didn’t tried after thinking all the blown she might have done…hahhahah as I am her only and first customer for the day..she claim, didn’t believe her as she is a stunner.
BJ: 7/10 (to bad no bbbj) good suction
FJ: 7/10 (She applied KY before she start anything, a bit potong steam but nevertheless after a few positioning….she is wet wet wet and I like her fake soft moan like the porn star almost like real…hahahahahha )
GFE: 10/10 (bathing together, wash my didi, wash my hair even and massage with foam soap very shiok)
RTF: Yes…if I want a quick one, normally I don’t go for this type of girls as no GFE but since I am showing this place to my business partner.
Damage: Payment before action collected by the establishment – 3,500 bahts the 3rd floor model class, they have the 2000 bahts, 2200 bahts, 2900 bahts, 3500 bahts, 4500 bahts highest range face not much difference but solid body
1:30am. Tired but still ok so decide to go to CM2 at Siam Paragon Novotel Hotel basement. Lots of Russian, Thai and not many guys mostly older farang there. Walk around and one Thai girl smile at me and she have the lansi look. One thing that turn me off even she got a 9/10 look as I can see her tummy in her loose dress. So a no no.
2:00am – Tired already and got a early appointment tomorrow morning decide to call it a night as we were walking out. 3 SYT stunners wave at me to ask me to go over, they are thai girls. Look around to see whether any other leng chai around me. No and I ask whether it is me in sign language. She nodded her head. Nowadays uncle already so got to make sure.
She says that she have been observing us for a while already but we didn’t see her direction. She speak fluent English! Working in a law firm, there is 3 of them. One in accounting firm and another one is fashion design school. All speak English very fluently. But too tired reject them and they gave us their hand-phone no. Ok. Ok tomorrow can! We confirm to meet at the lobby of The Emerald Hotel at 6. 30 pm the following day.
2:30 am – arrived at the hotel walk a bit to buy protection for tomorrow activity. Have a coffee at the coffee house to wrap up the day activity. Business part and off to sleep after a hot shower
4.00am – Sleepppppppp…..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Day 2 – 29th July 2008
• 8:00am – Breakfast and off to the meeting, end the business deal with distributorship confirm, sign and all the working programme ends at 3.00pm
• 4:00pm – Meet up with my business partner and have a simple lunch and proceed to have foot massage again as my business buddy loves it so much, a 2 hours session for a damage of 500 bahts
• 6:00pm – Call the FL girls and they says they are staying far from our hotel and it took about 1 ˝ hours to arrive. Shit!!!! Another girl (my girl) got OT (overtime at the office) and can only dropped by after work about 9-10pm. Hmmmmm what to do.
• 8:00pm – My hand phone rings as we were having a nap……my business buddy girl arrives at the lobby already, my buddy took her as she is a stunner by uncle standard. Her name is Sitisa Suwang and a solid body an 8/10 on body and the rest haven’t ask my friend yet. Talk cock and getting to know each other and chit chat and suddenly my supplier call and wanted to discuss something with us at 10pm. Ahhh ya…what to do got to say yes!!!
• My supplier came and we leave the girl to decide whether to wait in the coffee house or in our room, she decide in the coffee while waiting for her friend to arrives and for us to finish our business deal
• 11:30pm – Business done and have a short coffee with them and wrapped the business with MOU sign and all the business staff…shake hand and finish finally.
• When we return to our table in the coffee house, my girl have arrived already…..chit chat for a while before they want to go to karaoke lounge near our hotel about 3 minutes walk call the Hip Hotel.
• Sing song and a bottle of wine and the girls have warm up with us and the GFE is starting to work out alright.
• 1:30am - Walk back and check them in the hotel as we have booked for 2 people per room as it is the same price for single and double if not then we got to pay an extra of 700 bahts for extra one girl. (But the setback is that the bill will appear as Mr.& Mrs.….your name and the girl thai name….be careful married man) Mine is not problem as the bill goes directly to my account girl and she don’t ask me question or dare not question me..hahahahah)
• Order a bottle of wine and they jammed in my friend room for a while as I took a shower and rest for a while as a bit tired and my girl come back and me to shower with her. Again. Hahahahah. Why not?
She got a solid body and she is so sweet and 33B and started with a BBBJ and very good and long one. Then she asks me whether I like love making. Answer. I love making love if not why should I call her. Silly question and the question. What do I like to do, anal? I am not a anal guy so I reject the idea. We change a few position from missionary, to cowgirl, to sitting up and doggy and still I can’t explode maybe I am tired. It lasted for about 45 minutes. Later. After all the position that she can think of. Damn tired already the clock at the bedside is already 4. 38 thai time. Shit as we need to be in the airport 9am that means we need to leave the hotel after breakfast at 7. 00am.
Name: Tanya
Age: 25
Boobs : ~34C (boobs still very firm)
Skin : Fair as she is a chinese Thai gal but smooth skin with non spare tyre – no tummy bulging out)
Face: 7/10 (a office girl look and they are real office girl (university graduate) as they even give me their name card…hahahah KNN)
FK: Yes….as if we haven’t seen each other for 10 years ……just know her for 3 hours!
BJ: 7/10 (bbbj) good suction
FJ: 8/10 (She rubbed herself and ask me to help to simulate her until the wet wet water is pouring out….after maybe 10 minutes of fingering)
GFE: 10/10 (bathing together, wash my didi, kiss kiss and hug hug)
RTF: Yes…if I can’t get any more new target but I doubt in BKK.
Damage: 5000 bahts for 6 hours inclusive of tips
Ask them to go back as we need to go back early tomorrow morning. Kiss goodbye after washing me up and hug hug and dropped back into the bed and fell asleep until the morning call at 6. 00am rings. Breakfast and off to airport.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I would NEVER live in Isaan, even if I had a million dollars. My GF comes from there and absolutely hates it. The main reason for her opinion is the fact that the famous friendliness of Isaan people is actually a superficial sham. I couldn't agree more. They are among the biggest gossips and back-stabbers, not-to-mention opportunists when someone with money is around. Her brother recently got married. Unfortunately he "married down" resulting in low-life riff-raff from his new wife's village showing up to eat all the food, drink all the booze and have their hands out repeatedly for more and more. Since my GF's family have money, all these people were quite brazen in asking for all manner of things. The bride's scum family contributed nothing to the proceedings and yet expected a sin sord of 130,000 + 3 baht of gold, far more than the girl, considering her status was worth.
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I had a similar, yet difference experience, recently. My wife's grandmother died in Surin and in the Chinese/Thai tradition a big to-do was held. All her well-to-do family members from BKK showed up in their fancy cars to my wife's mother's modest house in Surin and proceeded to eat and drink and then leave without contributing anything to the funeral expenses. The family pitching in to honor their deceased relatives is customary in their culture.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Well, I'm a super, fat peon. :D
Anyway...taxi out of 16, turn left onto Rachadapisek, go about 300 metres, u-turn, turn right at the lights at Asoke to 23, turn left and stop at the top of Cowboy.[/QUOTE]
Yes but many taxi drivers not know 16 and during traffic that little area is a royal pain.... just fyi...
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I had a similar, yet difference experience, recently. My wife's grandmother died in Surin and in the Chinese/Thai tradition a big to-do was held. All her well-to-do family members from BKK showed up in their fancy cars to my wife's mother's modest house in Surin and proceeded to eat and drink and then leave without contributing anything to the funeral expenses. The family pitching in to honor their deceased relatives is customary in their culture.[/QUOTE]
Nobody ever said the HiSo crowd weren't mean-spirited, miserly and selfish. They didn't get rich by being nice.
Both ends of the social spectrum in this country are scum. It's only the middle class who are worth a damn and who carry most of the burdens of the country.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand] They are among the biggest gossips and back-stabbers, not-to-mention opportunists when someone with money is around. Her brother recently got married. Unfortunately he "married down" resulting in low-life riff-raff from his new wife's village showing up to eat all the food, drink all the booze and have their hands out repeatedly for more and more. Since my GF's family have money, all these people were quite brazen in asking for all manner of things. The bride's scum family contributed nothing to the proceedings and yet expected a sin sord of 130,000 + 3 baht of gold, far more than the girl, considering her status was worth.
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Generally I would agree with what you say, but they are not all the same. And they very quickly realise who will not ignore their hands out approaches. Indeed you put your Isaan G/F on a pedestal, and there are many more like her. As for your G/F's brother marrying beneath him, that was no doubt his choice, and regardless of the price paid he was no doubt a happy man. (I say well done to him, presumbly going against the family's wishes - pity he didn't just offer the girl a better life, take it or leave it, with no sinsod or gold). Why does her status have to enter into it? She may have been from a poor family, but clearly she did not follow the masses to Bangkok and Pattaya, and earn a living in the bars, providing fodder for you, me and everyone else. It is the likes of us that lower a girls status,whether paying 300,500 or 1000's of baht for a night of sex and then you turn round and push it in their faces!
Yes all villages have their lazy scum who effectively gatecrash every party and eat and drink themselves silly. But that is the fault of the hosts - allowing them in in the first place. Bangkok too has it's high class scum - many of them - who show no consideration to others, believe it's only about money, and look down on all those have nots. Can you honestly say none of your well placed Hi-So "friends" are not also scumbags?
Sure, Isaan has its faults, just as Bangkok does, and no doubt every other country in the world. But just as in Bangkok, a farang living in Isaan is free to pick and choose whom he mixes with, and who to invite and who to exclude from his own social events.. In my little corner of Isaan, the scumbags do not bother me, and I have a good life.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]...Both ends of the social spectrum in this country are scum. It's only the middle class who are worth a damn and who carry most of the burdens of the country.[/QUOTE]
And don't forget us happy-go-lucky farang expats in Pattaya! We're glad to help out a little too! :)
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
Both ends of the social spectrum in this country are scum. It's only the middle class who are worth a damn and who carry most of the burdens of the country.[/QUOTE]
Thats obsurd. I never understand watch brings you to choose the word "scum" and why you want to generalise.
Are not the King and the Princess Prathep at the top of the society spectrum, but held is the highest possible esteem.
We all know that there are people with wonderful character amongst both the rich and the poor, even if they don't manage to dominate society.
Very poor people with great character no doubt go totally unnoticed. It must be the dumb voters you are reacting to, but is "scum" the right word?
Its the powerful people that manage to make their corruption have a severe impact! I only stating the obvious so I shouldn't bother I guess.
The middle classes in Thailand must be a very small portion of the population compared to western countries.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]And don't forget us happy-go-lucky farang expats in Pattaya! We're glad to help out a little too! :)[/QUOTE]
Yeh, at least we are distributing some money to the poor and to the economy. Where would Thailand be without the sex economy?
[QUOTE=Easy2007]The funny thing is though, the less that take 500B, the more there are that now fuck for free. Don't you love the internet and what it has generated.
Or, if you are decent looking, you can now fuck for free via spending time on the net through the various ways its possible.[/QUOTE]
Very true, I am getting a lot of dates from some internet programs lately ;)
and the big majority of these girls are ok to fuck.
My gig (one of them) is 19 and she told me that nowadays, in Thailand, among the new generation, it is quasi impossible to find a girl who is still a virgin at 20. Maybe not 100% true, but it gives you an idea of the changes in Thai girls mentality :)
[QUOTE=Giotto]I missed Stickmans weekly column for some weeks now - so I had some reading to do today. One of his pieces is [again] about one very old and often repeated issue: Sponsorship.
[URL]http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickMarkII/BargirlSponsorshipDoesntWork.htm[/URL]
Remarkable is that even if the male part of the sponsorship contract finds out the truth he tends not to believe it and hopes to somehow make the relationship work. And even worse - getting a PE involved to check out the background of a girl, finding then that she has many sponsors, and still not believing it - this cannot happen to all of you readers, I know, but I see it happening so many times :(:(:( ...
Read it - AND KEEP IT IN MIND.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
"Sponsership doesn't work!".
Work in what sense? What would the expectation be?
Obviously a girl is interested in a guy for some reason.
It would clearly be money if he has nothing else to offer. Thats partly why rich guys get hot girls.
But it doesn't buy the girl and get exclusive rights. We don't know what she is doing when we are not there.
Its not even worth worrying about.
The more money that is paid, the sooner the girl will leave if she has reached her immediate money target. Drip feed may keep her hanging on for longer. Buying her a house should normally lead to instantly being dumped.
A hot girl can always collect additional guys or richer replacements.
So the problem with supporting a girl too well, is that if leaves you not knowing why she wants you at all and how long it will last. On the other if you never help a girl that is worse off than yourself, you will be a stingy bastard. If she still wants you, then the reason will still be unclear.
If a stunning girl likes you who doesn't need financial support, then you know its not for financial reasons. This is tough for an old ugly guy to achieve.
Its all straight forward really, well sort of.
When a girl with big money problems doesn't ask a guy for money knowing that she could easily get it, that is perplexing. Its called "greng jai". Or she could be so smart that she knows she can get it without asking.
When a girl needs money desperately but pushes the guy and his money away, that means she has a much better source or means in rare cases that she doesn't think it is the right thing to suck money out of someone else, but needs to focus on staying within her own means.
Such a person exists.
A girl could be playing up just as we do.
Its hyporitical to be too worried about this.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]What makes this forum so "interesting" are debates such as this; between "privileged" elitists like Giotto, smug as he is in his palatial digs on soi 33, surrounded my all those "classy", over-priced beauties, and the "back-to-nature", simple-living Farang Bugsida, living with their ugly, ex-BG, Isaan farm wives in some backwater, Isaan shithole. Of course, I'm sure they have the big "baan Farang" in the village and are the envy of everyone, not to mention possessing, as they do heaps of genuine grass-roots knowledge of Thai/Isaan culture.
Ya. t'aint nothin' better than gettin' down wit' da locals.[/QUOTE]A very interesting post OTH, and it likely says more about you and your feelings as to anything else.
It is often the case that the "poor farangs" married to Thai's tend to hide away in Bangkok. Nobody really knows anyone, no family are around, you can live a very simple life on the small salary and nobody is playing the traditional Thai game of "I have more than you have".
Back in Isaan everyone knows everyone, and there are "shows of wealth" in terms of house size, car size, number of cars, how much gold etc. And for a "poor farang" married to an Isaan girl it must be hell.
Which is why they all tend to talk down Isaan and run away to live in Bangkok where they can be as anonymous as they want to, and live their simple life.
Given the venom of your posts against Isaan, one can safely, I feel, assume that you have been "embarrassed" by the farangs and their wives and their wealth in Isaan, and prefer you anonymous life in Bangkok, hiding away, and this is the reason for your hate of all things Isaan.
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]"Sponsership doesn't work!".
Work in what sense? What would the expectation be?
Obviously a girl is interested in a guy for some reason.
It would clearly be money if he has nothing else to offer. Thats partly why rich guys get hot girls.
But it doesn't buy the girl and get exclusive rights. We don't know what she is doing when we are not there.
Its not even worth worrying about.
The more money that is paid, the sooner the girl will leave if she has reached her immediate money target. Drip feed may keep her hanging on for longer. Buying her a house should normally lead to instantly being dumped.
A hot girl can always collect additional guys or richer replacements.
So the problem with supporting a girl too well, is that if leaves you not knowing why she wants you at all and how long it will last. On the other if you never help a girl that is worse off than yourself, you will be a stingy bastard. If she still wants you, then the reason will still be unclear.
If a stunning girl likes you who doesn't need financial support, then you know its not for financial reasons. This is tough for an old ugly guy to achieve.
Its all straight forward really, well sort of.
When a girl with big money problems doesn't ask a guy for money knowing that she could easily get it, that is perplexing. Its called "greng jai". Or she could be so smart that she knows she can get it without asking.
When a girl needs money desperately but pushes the guy and his money away, that means she has a much better source or means in rare cases that she doesn't think it is the right thing to suck money out of someone else, but needs to focus on staying within her own means.
Such a person exists.
A girl could be playing up just as we do.
Its hyporitical to be too worried about this.[/QUOTE]
I agree Mick but I'll chime in my two cents also.... There are also sometimes when there are two sides to the story and if the girl goes out then sometimes it is the guys fault. Even a girl who you care about and support or help out can get even or go out to hurt the guy at times and sometimes the guys deserve it. When guys are hurt they jump the BTS to the nearest MP... sometimes the girls do it too but only when it is more dramatic a reason IMHO. It is hypocritical to think only a guy can screw around. Sometimes a guy gets what he deserves. Atleast that is my POV. Just because you pay them does not mean you own them and sometimes it is not about the money or the sex that they are going after. Sometimes it is for other reasons.
And for guys to turn their back on girls who do this I think is wrong, we are in the mongering game but we expect the girls to be virgins until we screw them and remain virgins forever until it is our turn inside her. At times it can make the relationship stronger and more powerful when there is such drama in one's relationship. It is how you react and fix the issues that will determine if you have a relationship or if you are being taken.
To each his own... As long as you only offer what you want to offer and give what you want to give...
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Nobody ever said the HiSo crowd weren't mean-spirited, miserly and selfish. They didn't get rich by being nice.
Both ends of the social spectrum in this country are scum. It's only the middle class who are worth a damn and who carry most of the burdens of the country.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but these people are middle class. Or at least trying to appear so. I just don't think they have any class in general. I dropped 10K on the mom and I only met the old lady once.
Tansak, I really don't know much about sponsoring a WG, although I do send my GF in Indonesia 300 USD per month. With that, she pays all the house expenses, water, electricity, maid, etc, and also works with me full time. She considers it good money, and hardly ever asks me for anything over and above, except a custom wet suit last month. she is home every night, chatting with me on yahoo.
I think the point of sponsorship, to give the girl a monthly amount, for most guys, is to replace the money the WG is making in the bars. He wants her to stop working, and to be with him exclusively. We have all seen videos on Utube, showing the WG talking to her sponsor on the phone, naked, after just had sex with a punter, telling him to be quiet, as she swears eternal love, and tells the unsuspecting guy she is at home alone, staring lovingly at his pics. I believe the sponsor is trying to keep her for himself, yes, and therefore gives her enough money for her to not NEED to go out and work. Of course, we all know this never happens, and articles like the one Giotto posted a link to in Stickman's site, only make me shake my head in wonder. How can a guy be so stupid to think a WG, who has been on the game for years, will stop working after she has known a man for a couple of weeks? Sending a WG money, and hoping she will not work, IMO, only invite her to despise the guy, and try to milk him for as much as possible.
It makes no sense to me whatsoever. But some of these girls are smart, very smart. I wonder how successful they would be if they took their smarts into the real world.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I agree Mick but I'll chime in my two cents also.... There are also sometimes when there are two sides to the story and if the girl goes out then sometimes it is the guys fault. Even a girl who you care about and support or help out can get even or go out to hurt the guy at times and sometimes the guys deserve it. When guys are hurt they jump the BTS to the nearest MP... sometimes the girls do it too but only when it is more dramatic a reason IMHO. It is hypocritical to think only a guy can screw around. Sometimes a guy gets what he deserves. Atleast that is my POV. Just because you pay them does not mean you own them and sometimes it is not about the money or the sex that they are going after. Sometimes it is for other reasons.
And for guys to turn their back on girls who do this I think is wrong, we are in the mongering game but we expect the girls to be virgins until we screw them and remain virgins forever until it is our turn inside her. At times it can make the relationship stronger and more powerful when there is such drama in one's relationship. It is how you react and fix the issues that will determine if you have a relationship or if you are being taken.
To each his own... As long as you only offer what you want to offer and give what you want to give...[/QUOTE]
Oh Brother of mine... Of course what you say is all true.
I just stated that there can be two sides to every story and not every situation is identical. There are always exceptions to every rule and the first rule I follow is that she will not be a wife. But a few baht each month is nothing, and if you pay her by # of shots I get in then she'd be getting up there in the dollar figure during a two week trip. Sorry but dropping those 100 lbs really added to my #'s...
And in my opinion it is often hypocritical of guys to expect the girls to stop working over night or stop at all. Some of these guys here have dated a MP girl doing a few customers a day. As I said, as long as you can afford it and you are happy to give it then WTF... You still are not buying a used or new car. There are no ownership papers and I think many mongers get hypocritical really fast. Many of these hypocrites are the ones cheating on their wives when they find out a WG they send 100 baht to is still working.... And yes, while we are screwing them they are screwing us... Opebo might be right with the 500 baht china town ladies... But basically if you do the math out and you think about paying per shot, it is sometimes cheaper to pay a few baht each month to a girl especially if the chemistry is there. And if you want to pay some education after a while then great or whatever. And if she wants to stop all customers after some time then fine.
It definitely takes longer then three weeks and expect bumps and curves and crashes in the road form both sides. Mixed relationships can be volatile IMHO or at least with my culture mixed with asian culture. But just because you run into a bump does that mean you throw the car away? For those guys who are married did you get married after three weeks? I doubt it.. relationships take time especially considering WG's. And for those that say they can not work, many do not, but some do. My track record on long term is 0 for 1 (in thai, PI and China are different stories) while I'm working on the second strike... But mongering and finding the ones that you want to keep around can be half the fun and take a while.... And as long as this second one is getting something out of it to help her or her family then I am OK with what I am doing and I could give a rats butt what others think.
And if you've ever gone and met the family upcountry,,, then you've really had an eye opener.
[QUOTE=1Ball]Tansak, I really don't know much about sponsoring a WG, although I do send my GF in Indonesia 300 USD per month. With that, she pays all the house expenses, water, electricity, maid, etc, and also works with me full time. She considers it good money, and hardly ever asks me for anything over and above, except a custom wet suit last month. she is home every night, chatting with me on yahoo................It makes no sense to me whatsoever. But some of these girls are smart, very smart. I wonder how successful they would be if they took their smarts into the real world.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Nobody ever said the HiSo crowd weren't mean-spirited, miserly and selfish. They didn't get rich by being nice.[/QUOTE]
No, mostly they got rich by being born, and have a lifelong sense of entitlement. This being Asia, they also have a strong, almost innate understanding of competition for scarce resources, and are very keen to keep kicking at the people just below them on the ladder (a habit one finds in every social class here).
Does this discussion really belong on Bangkok Reports? I just got myself a bit of leave from the family, and was checking this thread to see what's up on the BKK bar scene before heading to the meatier stuff at Living in Thailand, Thai Women, and Thai Politics. Just sayin'. . .
You make a very good point, Tansak, however, I was not talking about nice girls, I was talking about the mean b*tches, who pull a man into their web. I was talking about the kind of girl found in Stickman's story.
Do you remember a few months ago, a member posted a link to his blog, I think he was from Finland, or Norway, not a regular contributor to the LOS thread, however. He had met this girl, fallen in love with her, sent all his money over to buy a house, she even showed him fake documents, and the house. All smoke and mirrors of course, there was no house, and she cleaned out the bank account he had set up for her to buy the house, and renovate.
If I remember correctly, she even managed to produce fake documents stating he was a signer on the bank account. I guess they had gone to the bank together to open said account, but since all papers were in Thai, he didn't know what he was signing. He thought he was opening an account, but was probably filling out some kind of loan application.
His plan was to move to Thailand, live with her, have a great life with her, etc. He was devastated when he found out there was no house, no money, no girl....
If a man has entered into an agreement with a girl, that he will support her, and she is to not go out, then that is the agreement. If, however, he sends her 5,000 Bt per month, as a nice gesture, just becasue he wants to help, then the relationship is completely different, and he should not expect her to stay home and twiddle her thumbs.
And there lies the rub.
I suggest we move this to opinions and advice, if we wish to continue this discussion.
Hello everyone: I am coming to Bkk in the end of August, can someone recommend decent hotel for 600 bahts or less please? The hotel should have a safe at the reception, it should be clean, allow guest free of charge, the room should have a shower with hot watter and should have an airconditioner. Many thanks for your advice.
[QUOTE=Zde]Hello everyone: I am coming to Bkk in the end of August, can someone recommend decent hotel for 600 bahts or less please? The hotel should have a safe at the reception, it should be clean, allow guest free of charge, the room should have a shower with hot watter and should have an airconditioner. Many thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]ZDE
Do you know there is a Bangkok hotel forum?
Go there for the anwser and RTFF.
Fast Eddie 48
I wanna visit Thailand soon. I think its cheaper than other places. But what about enviroment of rooms? And what about the girls health controls for sex? Is it safe to hang around with girls in Thailand?
[QUOTE=Zde]Hello everyone: I am coming to Bkk in the end of August, can someone recommend decent hotel for 600 bahts or less please? The hotel should have a safe at the reception, it should be clean, allow guest free of charge, the room should have a shower with hot watter and should have an airconditioner. Many thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]
You could try this site. [url]www.bangkoknighttours.com[/url]. I doubt you will find anything that cheap close to the main entertainment areas. I came across this site while looking for a hotel for myself. There are a few hotels in the Khaosan Road area for 10pounds/night, around the Pratunam area if you can stretch your budget a bit more, and one in the Phra khanong but if it's not close to the skytrain and you don't speak any Thai, it can be a real ***** getting to and from.
[QUOTE=1Ball]It makes no sense to me whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
It makes no sense to me either. I have talked at length with guys who send regular money to their sweeties, and I am no wiser as to the logic of it. Surely it's better to let your sweetheart carry on doing her own thing until you are both ready to make a definitive move? Isn't this the normal way of romances? If she didn't want to wait, it wasn't really love, was it? Saved yourself from a lot of heartache.
[QUOTE=1Ball]But some of these girls are smart, very smart. I wonder how successful they would be if they took their smarts into the real world.[/QUOTE]
Quite a few, on a reasonably level playing field in a sponsor's country, are very successful, and many of the most successful ones are (as flagged up by D) arseholes who treat most of their fellow expat employees poorly.
[QUOTE=Zde]Hello everyone: I am coming to Bkk in the end of August, can someone recommend decent hotel for 600 bahts or less please? The hotel should have a safe at the reception, it should be clean, allow guest free of charge, the room should have a shower with hot watter and should have an airconditioner. Many thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]
You are stretching things a long way here! - The 2 short time hotels not far from NEP (PB or Penthouse) meet your conditions reasonably well.
Clean, AC, Shower, Tv (maybe no window though)
... and come in at 740 baht a night. You won't get cheaper around here.
Be aware though that they are designed as ST places - I'm not sure how comfortable LT will be.
[QUOTE=Zde]Hello everyone: I am coming to Bkk in the end of August, can someone recommend decent hotel for 600 bahts or less please? The hotel should have a safe at the reception, it should be clean, allow guest free of charge, the room should have a shower with hot watter and should have an airconditioner. Many thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]I think the Honey Hotel on Soi 19 may have 800 baht rooms near the carpark.
But really, Bangkok may not fit your budget.
You might just want to spend the day in Bangkok then take the bus to Pattaya (118 baht for the busfare). You can get a room with a shower, room safe, aircon, and free wireless internet at the Queen Victoria for 500 baht (their cheapest room. Most expensive is 800) on Soi Six, and there are beach road girls at 500 baht. In Bangkok 1000 baht is the starting rate for freelancers on Sukhumvit; the prettier girls want more usually. The go-go bars, and beer bars are cheaper in Pattaya too.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]It makes no sense to me either. I have talked at length with guys who send regular money to their sweeties, and I am no wiser as to the logic of it. Surely it's better to let your sweetheart carry on doing her own thing until you are both ready to make a definitive move? Isn't this the normal way of romances? If she didn't want to wait, it wasn't really love, was it? Saved yourself from a lot of heartache.[/QUOTE]
Sponsorship, in my opinion is not that bad a thing if you live in the same city as the girl and can see her often (or live with her). Sending money from overseas is just plain stupid, especially if the lady you sponsor is (was) a working girl.
I have gigs in a few cities in Thailand (yes, I am a horndog) and never paid them a dime as far as sponsorship goes. When I am with them, I pay for everything (restaurants, excursions, clothes...) but when I am not, they are free to do whatever they please. Some of them have steady boyfriends so do not need the cash. One of them actually has an Italian sponsor, she hates the guy because everytime he comes to Thailand (2 times a year) he just wants to fuck her many times a day. When I asked her why she stayed with him her reply was exactly what I expected: he pay for my appartment, university and send money every month.
If you are abroad, don't be foolish sending money and wait until you move to Thailand where, there are a lot of very good girls (not ex bgs) willing to accept a farang.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...One of them actually has an Italian sponsor, she hates the guy because everytime he comes to Thailand (2 times a year) he just wants to fuck her many times a day. When I asked her why she stayed with him her reply was exactly what I expected: he pay for my appartment, university and send money every month...[/QUOTE]
He pays for her apartment, university, and sends money every month, but the sap wants to fuck her while he's here so she hates him. That says it all about "sponsorship" IMHO.
How can you stand being with that person?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Sending money from overseas is just plain stupid, especially if the lady you sponsor is (was) a working girl.
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There is a sense to it. Its just a donation to help out someone short of cash. It may allow them to not work and be lazy instead. It doesn't achieve anything much and certainly doesn't stop them having fun with someone else.
Its like sponsoring a child in Africa except that you know the person receiving the money.
Its not sending a girl money that is a problem. The problem is that the guy may develop expections that he is "buying something" where he is actually getting nothing for the money. A GF is more expensive than P4P, so will never be value for money.
But many guys want to pay the girl extra to stop messing with other guys. If this your aim, then it can easily fail. It could work if she doesn't really want to do anyone, but then who wants a girl that is not at all horny?
Its a lot easier to pay P4P girls on a per fuck basis.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Both ends of the social spectrum in this country are scum.[/QUOTE]What a silly prejudice. A bit burned out on Thailand, are we?
I don't know about your job, but in mine I deal with people from every strata of Thai society on a daily basis, and have been doing so since there really wasn't a middle class here. Some of the most truly decent and generous people I've met have been from the very bottom of the heap. I've also met enough extremely impressive and sympathetic people among the nominally hi-so that I've developed a certain tolerance toward the awful ones, who I admit are pretty thoroughly awful. And I've met no lack of really nasty middle-class types of the grasping, upward-mobile, wannabe-nouveau-riche type. There's just no generalizing.
[QUOTE=Zde]Hello everyone: I am coming to Bkk in the end of August, can someone recommend decent hotel for 600 bahts or less please? The hotel should have a safe at the reception, it should be clean, allow guest free of charge, the room should have a shower with hot watter and should have an airconditioner. Many thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]
There are many hotels that fit your requirement, but they aren't going to be close to anything and you will be the only Farang. If you don't speak or read Thai you will be at a disadvantage.
[QUOTE=Washburn]I think the Honey Hotel on Soi 19 may have 800 baht rooms near the carpark.
But really, Bangkok may not fit your budget.
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I stayed in the Honey Hotel my first night in Thailand in 1973. Had a ST there a year or so ago and it hasn't changed any in 35 years. Not even the sheets on the bed.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]TBut many guys want to pay the girl extra to stop messing with other guys. If this your aim, then it can easily fail. [/QUOTE]
I agree with this but you know I am basically rooting for the girls in this whole thing. Most guys send money because it makes them feel good - white knights rescuing the wayward damsel - and it makes them feel happy thinking about this girl in Thailand. Sure eventually many of them receive a rude awakening but such is life - it happens in every kind of relationship and in every strata of society. In the meantime the girls are getting your money and having themselves a good time, giving some to their family, buying bottles of whiskey for their friends and helping the Thai economy. Guys hopefully don't give more than they can afford and it gives the girls a little security every time the rent is due and knowing they don't have to worry every night about getting a customer. Good for them. Most of the girls I have met over many years coming to Thailand are pretty good sorts over all, but they play the system for what its worth because they know life isn't fair and if some farang sends them money because he is in love with them well that's business. In their eyes it's not malicious - its just how its done.
I talk to a lot of girls that I have gotten to know about this kind of stuff and many of them tell me that they are getting money from someone and in many cases more than one. It's a game to them and the more guys sending you money the better you are at it. Its a point of pride. They find it kind of funny. But there are all kinds - I know of 2 girls who got a sponsor and immediately quit the biz and went back home - I know of a couple who get sizable monthly amounts and still dabble but mainly come out just to hang out with their friends - its way too boring for them to stay at home waiting for honey to call. I know this one girl who is as sweet as pie and has a fiance in the US sending her 40,000 baht a month but she still works 3-4 nights a week - and tells me with a wide smile and a giggle that she knows she is a "bad girl" - but she says you never know when the money will stop and then where will she be - in the meantime she is going to make as much money as her small body and very willing mouth will manage.
[QUOTE=Zde]Hello everyone: I am coming to Bkk in the end of August, can someone recommend decent hotel for 600 bahts or less please? The hotel should have a safe at the reception, it should be clean, allow guest free of charge, the room should have a shower with hot watter and should have an airconditioner. Many thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]
If your budget is that low you may do better to avoid Bangkok and head for Pattaya -------- cheaper hotels and girls on Beach Road for 500 baht.
[QUOTE=DRRonin]I agree with this but you know I am basically rooting for the girls in this whole thing. Most guys send money because it makes them feel good - white knights rescuing the wayward damsel - and it makes them feel happy thinking about this girl in Thailand. [/QUOTE]
Right now I have been sponsoring a girl in a small way that I can afford to get a little business started in return for precisely nothing. So I am not kidding myself that I will get anything back for sure. Maybe maintaining a friend (with no sex). But we have been friends already for 6 years. But it seems less hopeless than sponsoring an unknown in a foreign Country.
[QUOTE=Betong]What a silly prejudice. A bit burned out on Thailand, are we?...There's just no generalizing.[/QUOTE]
True about generalizations. I've had a particularly bad week with the HiSo crowd.I
But, if you don't know my job, you haven't been reading this forum for long, have you?:)
[QUOTE=Retired Army]There are many hotels that fit your requirement, but they aren't going to be close to anything and you will be the only Farang. If you don't speak or read Thai you will be at a disadvantage.[/QUOTE]Station Hotel (just oposite main train station. Hualampong) have rooms for 250 Bath. Fan & bathroom. But 50 m from the hotel is Underground train, walking distance to Patpong. Walking distance to China Town.
Enjoy!
Station Hotel. Just oposite main train station Hualampong have rooms for 250 Baths (simple room with fan & bathroom).
Walking distance to Patpong, China Town and 50 m to Underground Train.
After mongering a long time and having different girls in every trip and some so called GF's I would say why people send girls money.
1. They want a friendly loving face to meet them at the airport.
2. Having a local girl who takes care of everything including laundry is
unbeatable.
3. When I had a GF in Thailand she would carry my money and wallet all the
time and she paid the check and all expenses from that. When I was
leaving she will give me an account of what she spent and give me back
the balance.
4. Not necessary to use condom. My Gf took birth control pills, she says
only when I come to visit.
5. If you are into travelling all over Thailand nothing beats a local girl
as companion. You will be treated differently.
6. As you all know how clingy and gfe the Thai girls are.
Having said these, I never sent money online. I only gave money when I
am with them.
As to the chances of them hooking on the side, It is very tempting
for the girls. They know their beauty and age will catch up on them.
Nowadays you cannot even believe your girlfriends here in western
countries , who they are sleeping with on the side.
If a guy sends money to have a Gf when he in Thailand knowing all these
good for him. All of us do not want him being naieve and getting hurt
badly thinking the girl loves him and stay chaste for him.
[QUOTE=Betong]You've got to wonder if these farang "investigators" have ever found a sponsored girl who *wasn't* still on the game.[/quote]A good friend of mine worked as a Private eye in Bangkok for many years until he returned to NZ 3 or 4 years ago. He specialised in checking on thai bar girls activities whilst their teeruk (s) were in their homeland.
From the numerous conversations he and I have had in regards to him doing these checks, I think it is fair to say in the 100s/1000s of investigations he did, the % of girls that were still selling their pussy in one way or another was 100%.
I know some of you may may think that I have exaggerated the % of girls that fall into this category, I can assure you I have not.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]But, if you don't know my job, you haven't been reading this forum for long, have you?:)[/QUOTE]Well I know what your job is but my point was that I wasn't going to presume to know how much contact it gave you with the various classes here, especially the lower ones. But I sympathize. My oldest friend here is effectively a dean at shall we say a highly prestigious uni, and just seeing some of the hi-so politics he has to play . . . well, it'd drive me postal.
(I used to be active on this forum under another name till about three years ago when the girlfriend moved in and I decided to be a little more discreet. But she's gone now and I'm baaaaack!)
[QUOTE=DRRonin]I agree with this but you know I am basically rooting for the girls in this whole thing. Most guys send money because it makes them feel good - white knights rescuing the wayward damsel -.[/QUOTE]I think the rescue fantasy is very powerful, and the Thai girls really fit the bill perfectly: delicate, innocent, fragile, sweet-natured, clingy - you get the idea.
I root for the girls too - I hope they all save enough to build houses and open salons and shops - but sometimes I get seduced by that rescue fantasy and go one step further than just paying them for their services, and try to fix their little lives.
It is possible to get them out of the bar scene - although not easy because a lot of forces conspire to put them into it in the first place - just remember that no good deed goes unpunished.
It's probably better to try to help them in smaller ways - things like dental work (quite cheap in Thailand), and language lessons - when smitten by their charms but, alas, that's often easier said than done.
[QUOTE=DRRonin]Most guys send money because it makes them feel good [/QUOTE]
Having supported several Thai girls over my years here, I've always viewed it much like the 'Save The Children Fund'.
1/ Do it because you genuinely want to help someone in need.
2/ Do it for someone who is doing something constructive with the money, i.e. bettering themselves. For example, I sponsored several girls who wanted to further their education.
3/ Never do it, if you expect something back in return.
4/ Also, be careful who you're supporting (IMO - under no circumstances. P4P)
when we were in grade school we collected money for "pagan babies"
To save the poor heathen , non christian souls around the world ,
I guess this is supporting BKK pagan babies :)
Just as in the USA , you wish the Thai government would spend money educating the young and not spend most of its money on the military etc,
So I figure the few times I have helped out a TG it my way of giving like when we were kids , hopefully it helped them in the long run....
Simple yes, but why think too much
BK
[QUOTE=Nikyok]I wanna visit Thailand soon. I think its cheaper than other places. But what about enviroment of rooms? And what about the girls health controls for sex? Is it safe to hang around with girls in Thailand?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it is cheaper than a lot of other places like western Europe for example......as to the environment of the rooms....you have anything from shite hole to 5 star with good environmental controls to keep the pollution from the outside...out........health controls for sex......very poor.....a very high percentage of girls rate you as a good looking, clean guy....and immediately begin to place your rock hard penis inside their pussy with no condom........"safe to hang around"?.....yes.....but be careful of the "live for today" attitude...and some pros who might put you into a bad situation if you appear as a total "Newman".
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Having supported several Thai girls over my years here, I've always viewed it much like the 'Save The Children Fund'.
1/ Do it because you genuinely want to help someone in need.
2/ Do it for someone who is doing something constructive with the money, i.e. bettering themselves. For example, I sponsored several girls who wanted to further their education.
3/ Never do it, if you expect something back in return.
4/ Also, be careful who you're supporting (IMO - under no circumstances. P4P)[/QUOTE]
I agree with most of this.
Helping an ex-P4P avoid returning to P4P seems O.K. to me. The Thai-Yai girl I assisted was in P4P 6 years ago and she doesn't want to return to it, but rather run a little business to sell stuff.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]...4/ Also, be careful who you're supporting (IMO - under no circumstances. P4P)[/QUOTE]
What???
Don't you know that p4p is the sincerest form of sponsorship? :D
[QUOTE=Daddy07]What???
Don't you know that p4p is the sincerest form of sponsorship? :D[/QUOTE]
Actually, as my balcony overlooks Klong Toey, I've taken to just tossing money to the heaving masses below, much like Caesar tossing bread to the crowds at the Colosseum.
So, if I happen to hit a P4P girl down there, by accident, so be it. :D
Could anybody tell me if its free to take girls back to the Bel Aire Princess i think the name is Sukhumvit soi 5
Thanks
[QUOTE=Washburn]
It is possible to get them out of the bar scene - although not easy because a lot of forces conspire to put them into it in the first place - just remember that no good deed goes unpunished.
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You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't get the bar out of the girl.
[QUOTE=Washburn]I think the rescue fantasy is very powerful, and the Thai girls really fit the bill perfectly: delicate, innocent, fragile, sweet-natured, clingy - you get the idea.
I root for the girls too - I hope they all save enough to build houses and open salons and shops - but sometimes I get seduced by that rescue fantasy and go one step further than just paying them for their services, and try to fix their little lives. [/QUOTE]
I think most of us have at some point if you have spent enough time there. If you have a heart its hard not to be sucked in or suckered in. And at the end of the day its really not a lot of money to most of us unless you go idiotically overboard. On the few occasions I have sent money after hearing a sad plea that would make a crocodile cry all I hope is that they had a good time with it and bought themselves something nice. I have no illusions about them saving it or getting them out of their current business activities.
One thing that always fascinates me though is what happens to the girls. I've been coming to Thailand for about 15 years now and in that time have seen wave after wave of new girls replace the older ones. And I rarely come across ones from years previously. So I wonder if their stories ended happily or tragically - did they go back home and set up a buisness, get married to a farang, commit suicide, find a job in a beauty parlor or just keep doing the same thing but somewhere else. I'd love to see a study on the migration of bar girls or see a series of films like Michael Apted directed where he follows the lives of some people and sees where they are every 7 years - except with bar girls. I sometimes think these girls are the strongest people mentally in the world - to get up every day and know the best thing ahead of you is being screwed by some stranger and do it day after day without cracking up kind of amazes me.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Actually, as my balcony overlooks Klong Toey, I've taken to just tossing money to the heaving masses below, much like Caesar tossing bread to the crowds at the Colosseum.
So, if I happen to hit a P4P girl down there, by accident, so be it. :D[/QUOTE]
Blimey! 500 quid a week goes a lot further than I thought in Thailand's premier destination :D.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't get the bar out of the girl.[/QUOTE]
This is a great buzzphrase which is perpetuated by farang who live their lives in the farang ghettos and culture of Thailand (even OTH, the most informed and BKK-integrated expat on ISG Thailand, moved back from a Thai neighbourhood to a tourist one as soon as he could afford to do so). In all my travels, I've learned to discard the 'capital city mentality' of every country as unrepresentative of every country's overall flavour.
In real life, the vast majority of Thai prostitutes can't wait to get out of the bar and get the bar out of their lives, [i]given a viable alternative[/i]. This is a fact that is is borne out by every available set of statistics.
[QUOTE=DRRonin]If you have a heart its hard not to be sucked in or suckered in. And at the end of the day its really not a lot of money to most of us unless you go idiotically overboard.[/QUOTE]
Think of it as a transfer of wealth from rich to poor, or from West to East.
[QUOTE=DRRonin]One thing that always fascinates me though is what happens to the girls. (snip) So I wonder if their stories ended happily or tragically[/QUOTE]
A retired bargirl is not a pretty sight. That is why the few that get "lucky" along the way inspire the rest to seek out permanent walking ATM(s) via sponsorship or marriage. Poor people everywhere, especially poor women who sell their bodies, are always one step away from tragedy. For most, it seems to be the way of life here in Thailand.
[QUOTE=DRRonin]I sometimes think these girls are the strongest people mentally in the world - to get up every day and know the best thing ahead of you is being screwed by some stranger and do it day after day without cracking up kind of amazes me.[/QUOTE]
A lot of them are crazy (like my friend Fa in the pictures). Behind the make-up and forced smiles, you can see it in their eyes. But they're also wily and have incredible survival skills, much like feral cats or coyotes. Nevertheless, they are human and they do cry. Some of them all the way to the bank!
The real question is for all of the "big hearted" mongers out there: Would it make sense to "sponsor" a prostitute or stripper in your home country?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]
The real question is for all of the "big hearted" mongers out there: Would it make sense to support a prostitute or stripper in your home country?[/QUOTE]
In view of the fact that the vast majority of Thai women living in the West are ex-Thai prostitutes, I'm going to take a leap (and also speak for quite a few friends), and say "Yes". The success/failure rates of such marriages are generally similar to the local national averages. And the 'return to prostitution' rates are very small: Usually related to financial hardship following marriage breakdown. I shagged a quite fit early middle-aged Thai woman in Manchester UK last month who had lived locally for fifteen years and had certainly never worked the local P4P scene in the 8 or so years I've been using it. She was recently single and trying to raise the funds for a trip home to see family for herself and her kids.
[QUOTE=DRRonin]I think most of us have at some point if you have spent enough time there. If you have a heart its hard not to be sucked in or suckered in. And at the end of the day its really not a lot of money to most of us unless you go idiotically overboard. On the few occasions I have sent money after hearing a sad plea that would make a crocodile cry all I hope is that they had a good time with it and bought themselves something nice. I have no illusions about them saving it or getting them out of their current business activities.
One thing that always fascinates me though is what happens to the girls. I've been coming to Thailand for about 15 years now and in that time have seen wave after wave of new girls replace the older ones. And I rarely come across ones from years previously. So I wonder if their stories ended happily or tragically - did they go back home and set up a buisness, get married to a farang, commit suicide, find a job in a beauty parlor or just keep doing the same thing but somewhere else. I'd love to see a study on the migration of bar girls or see a series of films like Michael Apted directed where he follows the lives of some people and sees where they are every 7 years - except with bar girls. I sometimes think these girls are the strongest people mentally in the world - to get up every day and know the best thing ahead of you is being screwed by some stranger and do it day after day without cracking up kind of amazes me.[/QUOTE]
That's a great post. The answer to your question about their stories is imo that they ended up in all the scenarios you suggest, the suicide one being the smallest category. What a great idea for a reality TV show.
[QUOTE=Patterson]Could anybody tell me if its free to take girls back to the Bel Aire Princess i think the name is Sukhumvit soi 5
Thanks[/QUOTE]
No. They have a joiner fee.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier](even OTH, the most informed and BKK-integrated expat on ISG Thailand, moved back from a Thai neighbourhood to a tourist one as soon as he could afford to do so).[/QUOTE]
That's not true. With the exception of 2 years on Suk 22 - not a great experience, but an easy way to get re-established, when I first came back to Thailand after a 9-month guest lectureship abroad - I've lived in solidly Thai neighbourhoods both in Bangkok and Hua Hin. I doubt any tourists could find my current place. Even many BKK taxi drivers have trouble finding it, unless I tell them to use the Suk 16 access point.
While I live in a nice condo, it's in a solidly Thai neighbourhood next to the slums of Klong Toey. While I might denigrate Thais from time to time, I still prefer their company over many Farang, especially many Farang expats. Otherwise, what's the point of living here, if you're going to live in a foreign ghetto? The Japanese are by far the worst for this. They don't integrate at all.
It's true, I enjoy the occasional pint and a plate of bangers and mash at Robin Hood, or The Dubliner. I go to the bi-monthly Brit comedy shows at The Bullshead with all the other expats in town. But, I'm not one of those who's been here 20 years, never eats Thai food and can still only muster a spastic "sawasdee krup" as their total Thai language output. Unfortunately, the town is full of these sad-asses, down at the local on a Sunday afternoon, watching the footie with the missus (even if she's a Thai missus) on the big-screen TV and longing for a home that only exists in their imagination. I admit that I like these places as a retreat from too much "Thai-ness" because, with the exception of the the preponderance of Thai girls, and perhaps the Thai wait staff, you could just as easily be sitting in a pub in Lutton. But, I'm not expecially fond of hanging with this crowd and am happy to return the chaos of my Thai neighbourhood - of course, viewed safely from the bastion of my hi-rise condo :) - like the French in the castle in Monty Python and The Holy Grail..."I fart in your general direction!".
[QUOTE=DRRonin]
One thing that always fascinates me though is what happens to the girls. I've been coming to Thailand for about 15 years now and in that time have seen wave after wave of new girls replace the older ones. And I rarely come across ones from years previously. So I wonder if their stories ended happily or tragically - did they go back home and set up a buisness, get married to a farang, commit suicide, find a job in a beauty parlor or just keep doing the same thing but somewhere else....[/QUOTE]
Of course we lose track of most P4Ps.
But occassionally you meet a special P4P girl that is class above the rest, or you just never got bored with.
So I am still in contact with a girl met in Lollipop 15-16 years ago. She has quit P4P, lived in Sweden for a while, but now trying to run her own business.
Another I met in CPII Soapy 6 years ago and she has quit P4P for several years now and also lived OS for a while.
A couple of Thai girls I have known in Australia for many years may have been in P4P in Thailand a long time ago.
As they went to Australia with Farangs. But I don't care to interogate on these issues.
Definite non-P4P girls I am ignoring for this post.
[QUOTE=Patterson]Could anybody tell me if its free to take girls back to the Bel Aire Princess i think the name is Sukhumvit soi 5. Thanks[/QUOTE]
I stayed there last fall. If you don't want BG pillow-talk, the 24-hour in-house massage girls are very friendly at the "Princess!"
[QUOTE=Retired Army]You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't get the bar out of the girl.[/QUOTE]Well, that's not reallywhat I meant, RA. I meant that all the forces that made her resort to the bar are still going to be operative. And it takes a while for a girl to become part of the bar scene, just like it takes a dog a while to become kennelized at the SPCA (and some dogs never do). IMO there are plenty of girls, even some who enjoy aspects of bar life, who don't have any of it's negative aspects embedded in their character.
Guys should have their eyes open, and be prudent, but they are in far more danger. By any order of magnitude you care to name. Of financial ruin from relationships with women back in Farangland (due to the predatory nature of Farang women and a complicitous legal system) than anything that can befall them in the Kingdom, bar girls included, unless they behave completely witlessly.
[QUOTE=DRRonin] I sometimes think these girls are the strongest people mentally in the world - to get up every day and know the best thing ahead of you is being screwed by some stranger and do it day after day without cracking up kind of amazes me.[/QUOTE]
That's why most of them abuse alcohol or drugs.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]
In real life, the vast majority of Thai prostitutes can't wait to get out of the bar and get the bar out of their lives, [i]given a viable alternative[/i]. This is a fact that is is borne out by every available set of statistics.[/QUOTE]
That's why the want to marry a Farang, but I don't care what you say. Once a girl has worked as a bar girl she is scared forever to one degree or another.
And, BTW, I would be interested in seeing the statistics to which you refer in your post. Can you please provide?
[QUOTE=Washburn]Of financial ruin from relationships with women back in Farangland (due to the predatory nature of Farang women and a complicitous legal system) than anything that can befall them in the Kingdom, bar girls included, unless they behave completely witlessly.[/QUOTE]
A few years ago, two and a half years of marriage cost me almost $40K(us) and a whole lot of pain!
With that in mind, the sincere appreciation I receive from giving my smiling Thai GF, gig, or the odd BG a few thousand baht every now and then is a true pleasure.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]In view of the fact that the vast majority of Thai women living in the West are ex-Thai prostitutes...[/QUOTE]
That's a commom misconception, but unfortunately it's a stereotype and wrong. I know a few Thai ex-prostitites living in the West, but the vast majority are decent, hardworking, non P4P women striving for a better life for them and their families.
patterson, i have stayed there two years ago and never had a problem or needing to pay for bringing a girl in. and i would be very surprised if any hotel especially in this area wants to charge you for it. (breakfast is a different story of course).
and if they tried i would refuse and tell them everywhere else it is free.
good luck
[QUOTE=Retired Army]That's a commom misconception, but unfortunately it's a stereotype and wrong. I know a few Thai ex-prostitites living in the West, but the vast majority are decent, hardworking, non P4P women striving for a better life for them and their families.[/QUOTE]
It's a common truism, a stereotype and right. It's how the vast majority of Thai women meet their farang husbands. Sad, but true. The (wrong) stereotype perpetuated by idiots such as yourself is that all ex-bargirls want to continue behaving like bargirls when given a viable alternative. The vast majority (who make up the vast majority of khun Thai living in the west) are far more sensible and mature than your beloved gtg's, and know when to embrace a gilt-edged opportunity when they see one: As attested to by several million successful Thai/farang marriages, and an awful lot of successful ex-bargirl businesswomen, around the world.
Wake up and smell the roses, Army. The world is full of expat Thai women whos' husbands and ex-husbands didn't travel to Thailand on US Army business.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]That's a commom misconception, but unfortunately it's a stereotype and wrong. I know a few Thai ex-prostitites living in the West, but the vast majority are decent, hardworking, non P4P women striving for a better life for them and their families.[/QUOTE]
Thats exaggerating the opposite way a bit too far.
I know a very decent hard-working Thai girl chef.
She doesn't have a very large large number of Thai friends in Australia because a lot of the other Thais she meets aren't good enough in character, even when not P4P. Too many selfish spoiled rich kids who don't know how to work, never feel Greng Jai, etc.
A lot of Thais are students or restaurant workers these days.
But of the ones brought in by Farangs and now married to Farangs in my country, its reasonable to assume that a fair percentage may have once been in P4P. Obviously I don't know statistics as usually this sort of thing is supposed to be secret, and I definitely don't want to know since some of these girls now have a chance to lead a normal life without too much "bargirl" talk going around.
But its up to the girl how she behaves.
Staying sober is a very important part of hiding the "bargirl" look.
I once went to a birthday party where I was incredibily embarassed by flamboyant behaviour of some Thai/Laos girls that sought of said to me "definte ex-bargirl". Fortunately I know better than to go these types of parties now.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]He pays for her apartment, university, and sends money every month, but the sap wants to fuck her while he's here so she hates him. That says it all about "sponsorship" IMHO.[/quote]
Actually she hates him because he wants to fuck her several times a day, every day LOL
[quote]How can you stand being with that person?[/QUOTE]
Man, if you could just see at how pretty that girl is... :)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...Man, if you could just see at how pretty that girl is... :)[/QUOTE]
Yep! Thats a good reason. :D
And it's another great lesson that these girls won't respect a man who throws big money at them. They might even come to hate him for wanting what he's paying for.
So I say enjoy her pretty face as you like, and then dump her when you are through. Let the other guy be the sap. He should know better.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]She doesn't have a very large large number of Thai friends in Australia because a lot of the other Thais she meets aren't good enough in character, even when not P4P. .[/QUOTE]
That's definatively true. My wife has the same problem when she is not in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]But its up to the girl how she behaves.
Staying sober is a very important part of hiding the "bargirl" look.
I once went to a birthday party where I was incredibily embarassed by flamboyant behaviour of some Thai/Laos girls that sought of said to me "definte ex-bargirl". Fortunately I know better than to go these types of parties now.[/QUOTE]
Been there, done that. One of the reasons we don't go to Thai parties outside of Thailand. Put a few drinks, especially if they are free, in these girls and it's just like being in Patpong or Beach Road all over again.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
Man, if you could just see at how pretty that girl is... :)[/QUOTE]
Why don't you post a picture?
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]
The (wrong) stereotype perpetuated by idiots such as yourself is that all ex-bargirls want to continue behaving like bargirls when given a viable alternative.
[/QUOTE]
I used to respect you and your opinions, but now that you have resorted to name calling, you can go fuck yourself ass wipe.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I used to respect you and your opinions, but now that you have resorted to name calling, you can go fuck yourself.[/QUOTE]
CAT FIGHT.
LOVE IT :D
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Why don't you post a picture?[/QUOTE]
I must have given you the wrong impression all this time. Maybe you really think I am stupid?
Posting the picture of a lady who has an official sponsor (who can be a member here by the way) and risking to jeopardise her relationship (however bad it might be) just to brag to a bunch of Internet horndogs that I can pull a very pretty Thai non P4P girl?
I don't need to prove anything to anyone, I'm not one to play the "who's got the biggest dick" game
[QUOTE=1Ball]CAT FIGHT.
LOVE IT :D[/QUOTE]
Grrr, Meow Grrrrrrrrr, Meow, lick my balls, cough up a hair ball, Meow, screw the dog, take a nap.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]A lot of them are crazy (like my friend Fa in the pictures). Behind the make-up and forced smiles, you can see it in their eyes. But they're also wily and have incredible survival skills, much like feral cats or coyotes. Nevertheless, they are human and they do cry. Some of them all the way to the bank!
The real question is for all of the "big hearted" mongers out there: Would it make sense to "sponsor" a prostitute or stripper in your home country?[/QUOTE]I don't doubt it and I admit to not being able to read Thai girls very well - but it still amazes me that at least on the surface and I think for many beyond that, that they can generally seem pretty happy, cheerful, funny, playful and sane. Maybe its their religion, maybe its their sense of fate, maybe its their culture, maybe its being a woman in a very patriarchal world or maybe they have just learned to separate what they do from who they are. The ones who get lost in drugs, alcohol and anger are the ones who can't I would guess.
As to sponsoring a woman at home - hah! One, I could never afford it, two, I have none of the same sense of empathy I have for girls from Thailand and third - though we often complain about how business like the girls in Thailand are getting its nothing compared to girls in the US where you better have your pants on when the time is up. I haven't gone with a girl here in a very long time but my past experiences were pretty awful. Never again.
I know two girls that I met way back in 1992 who are still in the game. One I have stayed in touch with fairly constantly because I consider her a friend and we have lunch and see movies together occasionally but no longer get intimate. Its been interesting seeing her life flash by - started out at 18 working in Pussy Galore in Patpong - tiny and incredibly cute - was a swimsuit girl meaning she never got on stage but just mingled with the clients - and over the years she has jumped around - worked the Japanese bars for years - retired - bought her apt. - came back for a while - then quit again and opened a restaurant - had a child - restaurant failed and she came back in the biz - now she is trying to put together another business that will allow her to get out for good. Though still cute but a little heavier, at 35 she knows her days are coming to a close as a bar girl and she worries about what comes next. But she is eternally optimistic and cheerful and tells me whats the point of life without fighting every day for something to call your own.
The other girl was one of my very very first - took her out of Pretty Woman I think it was on the second floor of Nana - way way back - she was right off the farm - no English, no idea about sex, was terrified of doing a bj, had to wrestle the sheets off her - but an absolutely bouncy sweet personality that got me to go with her 4-5 times over two trips. Never saw her for many years until 3 years ago I came across her in the Nana Hotel lobby - she immediately recognized me and remembered my name - and oddly I remembered hers - oddly because now she looks 50 though she must be mid-thirties at most and her life has no where to go - living on the generosity of drunks. She is always on the verge of being broke and in tears and I find it impossible not to give her a few thousand baht from time to time. I am not really sure why since I was only a customer and nothing more - but seeing her breaks my heart and makes me remember when both she and I were much younger.
Girls or business, you may never forget, that it is a very different mentalitity in thailand. Having done some business in Thailand, I feel, they do not take it so accurate with the truth - f.e. concerning money -as we do it in europe. (Many of my business partners kept (small) amounts of the money, having speciuos excuses, but it was never worth having a big argument..., but it added up)
My conclusion, in general: A "little lie" is not the same matter in Thailand as it is in the western world.
I met a very, very nice working girl in bangkok, spend unforgettable moments with her but couldn't stay with her. It hurt. Comparing her to a western girl, I'm sorry to say, I did not trust her. (+ I would never ever think of sponsoring a western working girl). I am not saying, that all thaigirls are like that. My lession: go for the whole thing - stay with her, take her with you or leave the whole thing being a nice memory. But I wasn't courageous enough. Don't sponsor, it doesn't work, makes you worry to much. But maybe I am just talking smart, because everything changes, when you fall in love.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]
[b]In view of the fact that the vast majority of Thai women living in the West are ex-Thai prostitutes[/b], I'm going to take a leap (and also speak for quite a few friends), and say "Yes".[/QUOTE]
With friends like you, who needs enemies. Where did this statement of fact come from?
I always knew you were an envious fart but thought you had some intelligence, guess I was wrong again!
[QUOTE=Penbelly]I wonder if any of the older hands here can relate a story of a girl that has worked in the nightscene longer?[/QUOTE]I figure the all-time record has to be that famous old dragon who used to work the Thermae every night. (I've given up on the place so for all I know she's still there, though it seems unlikely.) Apparently she'd been around since the days of the long-gone bars down by the Oriental Hotel in the early '50s. The amazing thing was that she still got the occasional customer.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I must have given you the wrong impression all this time. Maybe you really think I am stupid?
Posting the picture of a lady who has an official sponsor (who can be a member here by the way) and risking to jeopardise her relationship (however bad it might be) just to brag to a bunch of Internet horndogs that I can pull a very pretty Thai non P4P girl?
I don't need to prove anything to anyone, I'm not one to play the "who's got the biggest dick" game[/QUOTE]
No, I don't think you're stupid at all. Far from it. I just thought she was your girlfriend and you were bragging and wanted to show off a little. Guess I should have read all the threads and not just the last one.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I just thought she was your girlfriend and you were bragging and wanted to show off a little[/QUOTE]
Well, she's not my girlfriend but my gig, I see her casually despite the fact that she has a sponsor (who lives overseas). I have thought about leaving her out of respect for the guy but she would just replace me with another guy (she also has a Thai Boyfriend/gig/brother) and, she's really pretty so I try to have fun with her while I can.
I have been here for five days and I suppose I should share some of my experiences with all of you.
First....BKK is full of girls. You can get about anything you want here but.....
Second...some places may not cater for European clientele. Thermae and some MP's seem to be more Japanese oriented. Thermae has many beauties, I admit, but many are just for ST and quote ridiculous prices (2000B ST, 3000 LT). I just laughed them off. You can get a gorgeous girl from Babydoll's at 1500B LT plus 600B barfine.
Third...when you think about it, many bargirls in Soi 7/1 quote 2000B plus 500B LT. I just smile and half the price. There are some cuties there. Took one from the bar opposite my hotel. She was lovely.
Fourth....Beergarden (Soi 7) and Gulliver's (Soi 5) have a mix. Beergarden is more in your face (why waste time buying her a drink). At Gulliver's there is an air of sophistication which is only skin deep...they may not all smile at you. The quality at these two places varies considerably from one day to the next.
Fifth....Spice disco. I went there last night and thoroughly enjoyed myself. There are lots of freelancers and if you are there some time after 1:00am you may meet the real deal (I did). Newbies...don't put on a cowboy attitude at Spice's. Some of the girls are already taken, some others are with there Thai BF's. Better to look before you leap,
Take care all of you,
Taka
[QUOTE=Retired Army]That's a commom misconception, but unfortunately it's a stereotype and wrong. I know a few Thai ex-prostitites living in the West, but the vast majority are decent, hardworking, non P4P women striving for a better life for them and their families.[/QUOTE]
Most Thais in the US and Canada are actually quite well-to-do. This has as much to do with the difficulty of any Thai, except one's with money to get a visa, let alone a permanent residency, as anything else. Marriage to a Farang is no guarantee the girl will ever get into either country.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand] Marriage to a Farang is no guarantee the girl will ever get into either country.[/QUOTE]
That's absolutely correct! It helps, but it's no guarantee. Money also helps, but like marriage, it doesn't guarantee a visa.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, she's not my girlfriend but my gig, I see her casually despite the fact that she has a sponsor (who lives overseas). I have thought about leaving her out of respect for the guy but she would just replace me with another guy (she also has a Thai Boyfriend/gig/brother) and, she's really pretty so I try to have fun with her while I can.[/QUOTE]
Well, enjoy her while you can...
[QUOTE=Retired Army]That's absolutely correct! It helps, but it's no guarantee. Money also helps, but like marriage, it doesn't guarantee a visa.[/QUOTE]
I do tend to agree with Terry though that the vast majority of Thai women one meets in Europe seem to be ex-P4P. I haven't met any Isaan farmgirls (except my ex-gf, who I took to Canada 7 years ago) in North America. But, almost every Thai I met in Europe, (with the exception of the students I was with) when I was there last month, seemed to be ex-P4P.
Having just returned from 24 hours in Pattaya...(OTH in Pattaya??????? WTF??? did hell freeze over? did pigs fly?)...
...a thought occured to me (apart from "OMG, POOR GIRL!!") after I saw some of the types of Farang who these girls end up with, these types of relationships might not last, as well because a lot of these guys appear to be products of some cloning experiment gone horribly wrong, and are often ant-social freaks subject to rather bizarre behaviour. It's no wonder than more often than not, one hears in the bars, the girls exclaim, "Farang Ba!".
OK - this trip I've barfined girls from Soi Cowboy, Nana, and Soi 33, taken freelancers from Thermae's, Gullivers, Biergarten, Grace Hotel, and on the stroll on Sukhumvit, and at NEP carpark, and visited Nataree, Aviva, Tulip, Eden, Darling, Annie's, and Orchid massage parlors (promise to write some reports) - so what have I missed?
Which of your Bangkok favorite(s) have I overlooked? Let me know asap - I have only two more days!
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Having just returned from 24 hours in Pattaya...(OTH in Pattaya??????? WTF??? did hell freeze over? did pigs fly?)...
...a thought occured to me (apart from "OMG, POOR GIRL!!") after I saw some of the types of Farang who these girls end up with, these types of relationships might not last, as well because a lot of these guys appear to be products of some cloning experiment gone horribly wrong, and are often ant-social freaks subject to rather bizarre behaviour. It's no wonder than more often than not, one hears in the bars, the girls exclaim, "Farang Ba!".[/QUOTE]
My goodness, OTH, where in the hell to you go, and where do you stay on your infrequent trips to Pattaya? -- soi 6/1? -- the far side of Sukhumvit? -- the 3rd Road ghetto?
Admittedly, I've seen a few of the knuckle dragger types you describe, in their worn out flip-flops, filthy sleeveless t-shirts, and otherwise grotesque appearences, but I've also seen these guys on the lower Suk in Bangkok.
I rarely see them on Walking Street, and almost never in the go-go bars.
BTW -- did you get laid while you were here?
[QUOTE=Washburn]so what have I missed?[/QUOTE]
Well, Star of Light comes to mind. Or take a walk on the wild side at Barbar just down the soi. BDSM with a happy ending (if you can call getting a wank while blindfolded, whipped, and slapped 'happy').
[QUOTE=Washburn]OK - this trip I've barfined girls from Soi Cowboy, Nana, and Soi 33, taken freelancers from Thermae's, Gullivers, Biergarten, Grace Hotel, and on the stroll on Sukhumvit, and at NEP carpark, and visited Nataree, Aviva, Tulip, Eden, Darling, Annie's, and Orchid massage parlors (promise to write some reports) - so what have I missed? Which of your Bangkok favorite(s) have I overlooked? Let me know asap - I have only two more days![/QUOTE]
You might try a soapie at JC Infinity. That way you could say you've visited Patpong, too. Oh yeah, and stop at SOL on the way out in case you need some additional relief.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]That way you could say you've visited Patpong, too.[/QUOTE]
Interesting how Patpong seems to have fallen off the to-do list of many visiting mongers. Patpong 1 understandably so, but Patpong 2 still has some worthwhile places, plus a bit of the old ambience.
[QUOTE=Washburn]OK - this trip I've barfined girls from Soi Cowboy, Nana, and Soi 33, taken freelancers from Thermae's, Gullivers, Biergarten, Grace Hotel, and on the stroll on Sukhumvit, and at NEP carpark, and visited Nataree, Aviva, Tulip, Eden, Darling, Annie's, and Orchid massage parlors (promise to write some reports) - so what have I missed?
Which of your Bangkok favorite(s) have I overlooked? Let me know asap - I have only two more days![/QUOTE]
Akame on Suk Soi 33? Fish and chips at the Ship? Huntsman Pub? Pegagus Club?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Akami on Suk Soi 33? [/QUOTE]
A Japanese Restaurant with Suchi/Sashimi I guess? Tell us more.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]My goodness, OTH, where in the hell to you go, and where do you stay on your infrequent trips to Pattaya? -- soi 6/1? -- the far side of Sukhumvit? -- the 3rd Road ghetto?
Admittedly, I've seen a few of the knuckle dragger types you describe, in their worn out flip-flops, filthy sleeveless t-shirts, and otherwise grotesque appearences, but I've also seen these guys on the lower Suk in Bangkok.
I rarely see them on Walking Street, and almost never in the go-go bars.
BTW -- did you get laid while you were here?[/QUOTE]
Ya, but the knuckle-draggers on lower suk in Bkk are tourists. They don't live here. I saw these freaks around the 3rd Road ghetto and around other Pattaya sexpat areas. They clearly weren't visiting, but seem to be infesting Pattaya's condo slums, like cockroaches.
No, I didn't get laid and I was here alone, in a hotel near Walking Street. This is part of the story, I might post, likely in the 'Living in Thailand' thread. It actually doesn't really belong in either this thread or the Pattaya thread.
[QUOTE=Washburn]OK - this trip I've barfined girls from Soi Cowboy, Nana, and Soi 33, taken freelancers from Thermae's, Gullivers, Biergarten, Grace Hotel, and on the stroll on Sukhumvit, and at NEP carpark, and visited Nataree, Aviva, Tulip, Eden, Darling, Annie's, and Orchid massage parlors (promise to write some reports) - so what have I missed?
Which of your Bangkok favorite(s) have I overlooked? Let me know asap - I have only two more days![/QUOTE]
That 7/11 at the corner of Sukhumvit and soi 22 where my GF was assaulted by the Farang. ;)
[QUOTE=Betong]Interesting how Patpong seems to have fallen off the to-do list of many visiting mongers. Patpong 1 understandably so, but Patpong 2 still has some worthwhile places, plus a bit of the old ambience.[/QUOTE]
I've only been to Patpong once, in the daytime, to SOL. But if you're going to feel sorry for a place shed a tear for Washington Square. At least someone is still going to Patpong (regular tourists?).
And I thought maybe Pegasus club, RA, but I've spent so much money this trip, and I'm so shagged out, that I thought it might be a bit of a waste.
So maybe I'll try Patpong tonight.
Thanks for your suggestions. That's what makes this sport so great. You never stop learning...
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]A Japanese Restaurant with Suchi/Sashimi I guess? Tell us more.[/QUOTE]
Come on, you know Akame Massage on Soi 33. The place where they specialize in sticking things up the customer's ass. And, I guess you could get some raw fish, or something that smells like raw fish, at Akame if you call in advance.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Come on, you know Akame Massage on Soi 33. The place where they specialize in sticking things up the customer's ass. And, I guess you could get some raw fish, or something that smells like raw fish, at Akame if you call in advance.[/QUOTE]
You mean Akane then. ;) Have you been there? I haven't tried it. Possibly might stay away if they want to mess with my arse.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]You mean Akane then. ;) Have you been there? I haven't tried it. Possibly might stay away if they want to mess with my arse.[/QUOTE]
You're right, Akane is not for you Mick, you might be disappointed there.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]You mean Akane then. ;) Have you been there? I haven't tried it. Possibly might stay away if they want to mess with my arse.[/QUOTE]
...smells like fertilizer.
Yeah, that's the place. I've always called it Akame, but it could be Akane. I will have to go and check the name.
I've also been several times and have had pretty good experiences. But, I never could get past the idea of the girl licking my a-hole and then trying to kiss me.
I was there one time and could hear the guy in the next cubicle moaning and saying something in Japanese. All of a sudden the girls he had with him screamed and ran out. Apparently they were massaging his prostrate and he shat.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I do tend to agree with Terry though that the vast majority of Thai women one meets in Europe seem to be ex-P4P. I haven't met any Isaan farmgirls (except my ex-gf, who I took to Canada 7 years ago) in North America. But, almost every Thai I met in Europe, (with the exception of the students I was with) when I was there last month, seemed to be ex-P4P.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about vast majority, but at least half is definitely plausible. If you happen to be in or around London at Songkran time, go check out the Thai temple in Wimbledon. That place fills up pretty good with their Songkran festival; you never saw so many Thai women outside of Thailand. And no, you're not going to get wet there.
PM me for any details if your interested in joining next Saturday Night Aug 16 at Bar Bar Patpong 2. The club is halfing its entry fee to 450thb (includes 1 drink) for men (free for woman). THe party is on the 2nd floor as to what happens on the 3rd floor is outside this party. The intent of this event is more like entertainment rather than sex trade. Certainly any brave individuals who will allow themselves to be stapped into the rack in front of all the people may derive an alternate form of pleasure to balance your libido.
We are trying to entice guys to bring thier Gf's in Fetish outfit and stun us.
If we get enough of these females we'll have them do a skit on the stage cage & males will pass a vote ticket to the female of thier choice for a 1000thb prize. 2nd floor no nudity no sex toy. 3rd floor anything goes.
link [url]www.barbar-bangkok.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Retired Army]
Yeah, that's the place. I've always called it Akame, but it could be Akane. I will have to go and check the name.
[B]I was there one time and could hear the guy in the next cubicle moaning and saying something in Japanese. All of a sudden the girls he had with him screamed and ran out. Apparently they were massaging his prostrate and he shat.[/B][/QUOTE]
I would like to propose the above as the "Funniest Story of the Year".
I laughed so hard, literarly ROFL, that my wife came running and and I had to explain, without telling her what I had been reading and and above all, that I know the customs at Akane very well.
[QUOTE=Globotto]PM me for any details if your interested in joining next Saturday Night Aug 16 at Bar Bar Patpong 2. The club is halfing its entry fee to 450thb (includes 1 drink) for men (free for woman). THe party is on the 2nd floor as to what happens on the 3rd floor is outside this party. The intent of this event is more like entertainment rather than sex trade. Certainly any brave individuals who will allow themselves to be stapped into the rack in front of all the people may derive an alternate form of pleasure to balance your libido.
We are trying to entice guys to bring thier Gf's in Fetish outfit and stun us.
If we get enough of these females we'll have them do a skit on the stage cage & males will pass a vote ticket to the female of thier choice for a 1000thb prize. 2nd floor no nudity no sex toy. 3rd floor anything goes.
link [url]www.barbar-bangkok.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Just want to mention:
Globotto is Globotto (welcome back, long time no hear).
Giotto is Giotto.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Having just returned from 24 hours in Pattaya...(OTH in Pattaya??????? WTF??? did hell freeze over? did pigs fly?)...
...a thought occured to me (apart from "OMG, POOR GIRL!!") after I saw some of the types of Farang who these girls end up with, these types of relationships might not last, as well because a lot of these guys appear to be products of some cloning experiment gone horribly wrong, and are often ant-social freaks subject to rather bizarre behaviour. It's no wonder than more often than not, one hears in the bars, the girls exclaim, "Farang Ba!".[/QUOTE]Old Thai Hand,
OTH in Pattaya??????? WTF??? Did hell freeze over? Did pigs fly?
Giotto
[QUOTE=Betong]Interesting how Patpong seems to have fallen off the to-do list of many visiting mongers. Patpong 1 understandably so, but Patpong 2 still has some worthwhile places, plus a bit of the old ambience.[/QUOTE]Betong,
Where?
Giotto
Hey there,
I need an advice, next week I am going to bangkok, bringing for the first time my (chinese) girlfriend. She is ready to try a lesbian + threesome experience she says, as she knows it is my dream (I did not tell her I already had with prostitutes)
I will stay in Ratchadapisek, is there any place where I can have a girl for the night, in my hotel, accepting to have 2 customers (me + my grilfriend)
The goal there is not for me to change once a while, no, I want the 2 girls to make me some lesbian show, cum sharing etc.
Has any one experienced such? Where can I find girls ready to accept?
I must add my girlfriend is a beautiful tiny girl in the late 20's.
next time, if the experience is great, I'll ask for 1 guy (2m + 1 girl)
[QUOTE=Giotto]Old Thai Hand,
OTH in Pattaya??????? WTF??? Did hell freeze over? Did pigs fly?
Giotto[/QUOTE]
There did seem to be a few air-born pigs around, when I was there...or, then again maybe they were simply the drunk, pink-skinned Brits tossing each other around.
I will say that my impressions were similar to those you had on your recent return to Patts.
Things are in fact looking up now, and I am hoping oil will soon be moving back upwards again into the winter months to 200$ or more a barrel.
I know its the low season, but I saw a marked change in Bangkok on my last exploring of things cultural.
1. Less farangs - but more importantly less "package tour cheap ticket travel Far East types".
This is the great thing about rising air fares and rising "fuel surcharges" - less and less tossers traveling.
2. Girls getting better - I noticed a marked increase in new faces around places, quite cute some of them. Having sampled a few the new faces are from out of town in the big city freelancing for some extra cash as prices rise and more people come under the pressure of "no spare money".
If this trend increases into tourist season, and we can see 200$ or more a barrel for oil, then its going to be great fun for mongers with cash to spend :) !!!!
[QUOTE=Giotto]Just want to mention:
Globotto is Globotto (welcome back, long time no hear).
Giotto is Giotto.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Thanks and Ricardo is Ricardo
Long time no hear and things have changed alot in such time as have I.
Also greetings to OTH
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hey there,
I need an advice, next week I am going to bangkok, bringing for the first time my (chinese) girlfriend. She is ready to try a lesbian + threesome experience she says, as she knows it is my dream (I did not tell her I already had with prostitutes)
I will stay in Ratchadapisek, is there any place where I can have a girl for the night, in my hotel, accepting to have 2 customers (me + my grilfriend)
The goal there is not for me to change once a while, no, I want the 2 girls to make me some lesbian show, cum sharing etc.
Has any one experienced such? Where can I find girls ready to accept?
I must add my girlfriend is a beautiful tiny girl in the late 20's.
next time, if the experience is great, I'll ask for 1 guy (2m + 1 girl)[/QUOTE]
Hello Sixty nine cent
i answer these in reverse. I have done it here when a girl i had been seeing brought her friend over for a nights firm bed and it just happened spontaneously. No cum sharing but i did stack them.
If you look up a pro its likely she wont swap fluids i.e. cum sharing OMG sounds great. You could take your chances and go out to regular clubs and try to pick up a regular girl. Strangly thus far i havent noticed chinese females liking thai females much or visa versa but thats just a generization. You can find girls willing to accept just about anywhere.
Most likely find a pro at any Go-Go if you put it out thru the ranks what ur looking for. I dont think you would have any problem at any Hotel will allow your GF and guest to stay. PM me if you want to hook up if i have time i could hang around and help you guys meet someone. Sounds like fun.
Hotels do not care, thats not a problem.
Problem is finding a girl that will satisfy your needs and desires.
The lesbian side is easy, thats not a problem, cum sharing should not be a problem, the problem you will have is just changing condoms all the time.
Thai girls are pretty set in their ways and will not share a dick unless the condom is changed, for obvious reasons.
This is where places like Eden are good, in that the girls are experts in changing the condoms and do it in such a way that it does not get in the way of the action.
I would suggest taking your girlfriend to Eden, and letting the girls lesbianize her. You can also join in the fun.
Its perfectly ok, and there is no extra charge. Couples are same price as a single man. And its very common for couples to go to Eden.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hey there,
I need an advice, next week I am going to bangkok, bringing for the first time my (chinese) girlfriend. She is ready to try a lesbian + threesome experience she says, as she knows it is my dream (I did not tell her I already had with prostitutes)
I will stay in Ratchadapisek, is there any place where I can have a girl for the night, in my hotel, accepting to have 2 customers (me + my grilfriend)
The goal there is not for me to change once a while, no, I want the 2 girls to make me some lesbian show, cum sharing etc.
Has any one experienced such? Where can I find girls ready to accept?
I must add my girlfriend is a beautiful tiny girl in the late 20's.
next time, if the experience is great, I'll ask for 1 guy (2m + 1 girl)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]The goal there is not for me to change once a while, no, I want the 2 girls to make me some lesbian show, cum sharing etc.[/QUOTE]
Call the Eden Club and talk to bruce. I am pretty sure ALL of their girls would be ok with your request. You can order them to come to your hotel directly.
10pm to 6 am takeout fee is 3,000thb all inc... and trust me, she can fuck both of you all night if you feel like it ;)
Dear all,
I am planning a trip to Thailand with some friends.
i Know the usual business here, but I am looking for 2 special things:
1. Where can I find russian babes in Bangkok...
2. Where can i find top models or top end thai girls...
Thanks for your help!
[quote=nicfrenchy]call the eden club and talk to bruce. i am pretty sure all of their girls would be ok with your request. you can order them to come to your hotel directly.
10pm to 6 am takeout fee is 3,000thb all inc... and trust me, she can fuck both of you all night if you feel like it ;)[/quote]
definetly a good fall back plan. get one that does [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url] too so you and your girlfriend can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on her in the bathtub. maybe nic is suggesting that the eden lady will strap it on so u can practice your mmf 3 way.
sixty cent are you taking applicants? maybe we can have a isg lottery.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Most Thais in the US and Canada are actually quite well-to-do. This has as much to do with the difficulty of any Thai, except one's with money to get a visa, let alone a permanent residency, as anything else. Marriage to a Farang is no guarantee the girl will ever get into either country.[/QUOTE]
Most Thai (women) in the UK are also lower-middle-class-and-up within the British social structures. Quite a lot are successful businesswomen who started out doing one, sometimes two, and occasionally three basic-paying jobs in order to get onto the 'first rung of the ladder'. And the vast majority of them are ex-bargirls.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I used to respect you and your opinions, but now that you have resorted to name calling, you can go fuck yourself ass wipe.[/QUOTE]
Calm down, man, it's only a bit of name-calling. And, in view of the fact that 1Ball has instructed us to continue, I was only stating the obvious :D.
[QUOTE=Passepartout]... Where can I find russian babes in Bangkok...
[/QUOTE]Grace Disco, in Grace Hotel Soi 3, and outside Subway Soi 7. Apparently their numbers are growing in BKK.
T1234,
I have been on your rather extensive ignore list for the last couple of years. During that time I've lost count of the number of times that you've responded to my posts. Even your forum friends laugh at you behind your back about it :D. Why aren't they loyal to you?
[QUOTE=Globotto]
Sixty Cent are you taking applicants? maybe we can have a ISG lottery.[/QUOTE]
Globotto,
Maybe the idea appeals to you but please try not to drag us all in your Lottery fantasy. Some of us are picky about who we spend the night with LOL
[quote=giotto]where?[/quote]
i like a couple of the semi-outdoor places down the soi, more for hanging out and enjoying the scene than for picking up women. patpong cafe and crystal palace often have some real babes. executive club too, if it's still there. electric blue was surprisingly good a year or so ago though i wasn't too impressed last time i peeked in. and le bouchon is a great little restaurant. sit at the counter and perve on the sexy serving staff.
Was in LOS last week. Decided I fancied a soapie. Went to Darlings but doesn't open til 3 pm. Damn. Plan B was SOL for a first time visit but hot so wandered into SOI7 Biergarten about 1. 30 pm. Sipping my beer when I have nice3 young lady who's smile intrigues me but she does not sya anything. Soon joined by her friend who sits between us andis more agressive in the touching stakes. Indicate that I prefer her friend (shy silent type) but soon offered both together. Beer is drunk and I enjoy their banter (besides both good looking). So forget soapie and decide to take both (at 1500 baht a piece) to short time hotel. They were good fun and wore me out. Hungry so agrred to buy them a late lunch across the roabd from SOI 7 on return. All in all a very GFE experience.
By now with low batteries adjourn to the SOI 8 bar to watch olympics. Can reccommend this bar run by a friend of my mine to chill out with no girl hassles and they have a free BBQ on a Friday night. After several beers decide that I need to visit Soi Cowboy as have never been before. No intention of taking girl as now well oiled.
Drop into long gun coyote and then Rawhide. Beer in each. Shows nothing to write home about. In Rawhide some how get attached to 3 of the girls. Must be a quiet night. More beer buy the girls a few drinks and little johnie starts paying attention despite the amoiunt of beer. (Thank god for vitamin C as I am no youngster). Mind is now controlled by the loins but which to take. Decison is effectively made by girls having to dance. I am finally left with the 3 rd girl whose has really taken a shine to me. Curly hair and a big mouth that constantly kisses mine. So as other two are busy the deal is done Bht 550 bar fine and BHt 2000 lt. Head back to Novotel Lotus which is totally girl friendly.
My date proves to be very enthusiastic in bed.especially in the morningwhen have two more times last at her instigation. Shame I have to fly out to KL. Pay her BHT 3000 as well satisfied. Can't rememebre when I had such a nice time from 3 girls on BKKand all GFE.
Hope KL proves as GF.
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[QUOTE=Piper1]Grace Disco, in Grace Hotel Soi 3, and outside Subway Soi 7. Apparently their numbers are growing in BKK.[/QUOTE]
Good to hear that!
Thanks
Hey there.
I will go for the first time in Bangkok next week end and I'd really like to have fun with some gorgeous Thai Lady. Any advice so as to where to go for Models?
Cheers,
Machoo
[QUOTE=Penbelly]Although I don't have any statistics on 'where girls are now' I have kept track-a little-of girls who tend to hang around for a long time.There is a girl in NEP right now who worked in Patpong in 1996.12 years is a long time although she has taken a year off a couple of times.I wonder if any of the older hands here can relate a story of a girl that has worked in the nightscene longer? Sometimes I feel if I have been coming to LOS for 100 years,I swear. Incidentally,the very first girl I ever BF'd was from the old Madison's bar (now G-Spot) in 1995.Her fate? She was shot by a German man whose marriage proposal she had spurned.She survived but,needless to say,her hooking days were over.[/QUOTE]There's a black girl who danced in King's Group in 1991 who is still found almost nightly in Patpong (outside Superstars) looking for customers. The mamasan in Superstars (K. Appen) worked in Safari from 1991- 1999, then Thigh Bar, but always as a hostess (but still willing to BF).
There's a katoey who was in King's Corner in 1991 who still attends the bar several nights a week (but thankfully never mounts the stage)
[QUOTE=Machoo]Hey there.
I will go for the first time in Bangkok next week end and I'd really like to have fun with some gorgeous Thai Lady. Any advice so as to where to go for Models?
...
[/QUOTE]Machoo,
A good start would be - to read the forum. And then you could add some information to the forum, writing a report (not only questions).
And if you look for a model - ask Auntie_Guido :). He knows...
Giotto
[quote=nicfrenchy]call the eden club and talk to bruce. i am pretty sure all of their girls would be ok with your request. you can order them to come to your hotel directly.
10pm to 6 am takeout fee is 3,000thb all inc... and trust me, she can fuck both of you all night if you feel like it ;)[/quote]nicfrenchy, globotto, easy2007, others.
thanks for the feedback, i guess i'll go with the eden. i have already been there personally, great experience (even though i never found any reaaal good looking girl).
i'll avoid the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] stuff, i'm not really into that. my main objective is to see my gf have a lesbian experience. then, if she still allows, i'll join. cherry on the cake would be cum sharing. i'll keep you all posted
next time i may ask one guy to join but my spec is quite simple:
- not too good looking (less than me.)
- sex not too big
- someone who comes quite fast
- better be nore than 45 yo
well, i just want to protect myself and avoid my gf to change her focus after this experience.
Hi fellow mongers,
I would like some advice from experienced mongers in this region regarding my possible next mongering destination.
I am considering either Thailand / Colombia - Venezuela / Central America (Cuba, Dominican Republic, etc.) but I am still not sure which destination
would be a better option taking on count price-quality of girls and mongering infrastructure.
My previous mongering destinations were mainly Europe / Argentina / Brazil / Mexico
Latin girls are more attractive to me than dark skinned asians which I guess it is a relatively high proportion in Thailand, but I may be wrong, but maybe mongering options are not so well developed in Colombia/Costa Rica as in Thailand.
According to what you have seen, what would it make more sense to visit? I am planning 2-4 weeks of non stop sex and some sightseeing.
Thanx,
Masacuata
[blue]Greetings everyone,
Decent posted two lengthy reports regarding his trip to Buenos Aires.
Why he posted it in the Thailand thread instead of my separate forum for Argentina is a mystery to me.
I can only assume that he wanted his friends in Thailand to read of his exploits in Buenos Aires.
Anyway, I have re-posted his reports in argentinaprivate.com, where you are all invited to read them.
[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?p=387597#post387596[/url]
[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?p=387597#post387597[/url]
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Masacuata]Hi fellow mongers,
I would like some advice from experienced mongers in this region regarding my possible next mongering destination.
I am considering either Thailand / Colombia - Venezuela / Central America (Cuba, Dominican Republic, etc.) but I am still not sure which destination
would be a better option taking on count price-quality of girls and mongering infrastructure.
My previous mongering destinations were mainly Europe / Argentina / Brazil / Mexico
Latin girls are more attractive to me than dark skinned asians which I guess it is a relatively high proportion in Thailand, but I may be wrong, but maybe mongering options are not so well developed in Colombia/Costa Rica as in Thailand.
According to what you have seen, what would it make more sense to visit? I am planning 2-4 weeks of non stop sex and some sightseeing.
Thanx,
Masacuata[/QUOTE]Based on your statements I suggest somewhere else other than Thailand. You wouldn't be happy here. Try Costa Rica where you can go to the Beatles Bar. Hundreds of girls and very few customers.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Based on your statements I suggest somewhere else other than Thailand. You wouldn't be happy here. Try Costa Rica where you can go to the Beatles Bar. Hundreds of girls and very few customers.[/QUOTE]Duniawala
I think the Blue marlin is a better place in San jose CR but girl there is not as hot as the one in Bangkok ,I will in town next month for a week hope the USD will be stronger by then.
Fast eddie 48
Hi All,
I've been reading the forums since my last visit to Thailand. While I got no action then, I was determined to experience a little more than Thai hands this time during my massages. I was travelling with other half, so I only had a few hours during the day. I read a few reviews on massages places that offered "extra", and decided on Aviva. Nice and close to Nana BTS, and easy to find.
Walked in, ordered a 90 minute oil massage. Was just assigned a girl, Jenny. Very cute, nice large breasts, as it turned out, nice trimmed and tight pussy. Anyway, walked upstairs, had the shower, lay down naked, she was clothed in t-shirt and short shorts. The usual massage, fingers brushing my balls, concentrating on my ass, as well as back and legs. After about half an hour, with a little talking, little giggling, I was asked if I wanted extra massage. I asked how much, she said 1500 baht. I asked if that was on top of the 600 baht for the massage, and she said "yes, 600 for (pointed to downstairs) and 1500 for me". I said yes, without really knowing what I was buying!
Anyway, she got naked, showered while I watched. She seemed shy, but it could have been an act for my benefit. Anyway, more leg massaging, no rushing, but eventually got to my cock. Hand massaging, then rubbing her boobs over it, then moving up to me, rubbing her whole body over mine. I was kissing her neck, grabbing her ass. Very sensual. I guess I was after the more GFE. Then grabbed a condom from her kit, rolled it on, and proceeded with a CBJ, very good. I was thinking that this was what I was paying for, when she slid back up me, rubbing me as before, and then slid beside me and onto her back.
I lay beside her, and spent some time licking her breasts, nipples, neck, sliding my finger in between her lips. I was impressed with how wet she already was, and relatively tight. After a while, I moved in between her legs, and slid in. Then it was maybe 30 minutes of various positions, mainly missionary, on her side, little doggie, legs on shoulders. She didn't hurry me along, but commented that I lasted a long time. Flattery I'm sure. But I decided I needed the release and let go. I should mention that I spent a bit of time before the act massaging her clit, making her moan. I wasn't sure if she came or not, but she seemed to enjoy it. She wasn't particularly loud or expressive, but moaned nicely, smiled shyly even when I was fucking her, and was very sensual.
We slid the condom off, and then she told me that I still had 25 mins left, what would I like. So we just sat and chatted while she massaged my hands, arms, head. Her English was actually rather poor, but we managed to chat a bit. I think she was 25, or 27. She also had a scar in the middle of her chest, above her breasts, less than an inch long. It bothered me not at all.
I paid her 2000 baht, which is probably well over the odds, but I enjoyed it, and I didn't have the right change! She smiled and waved as I left.
Overall, for a person new to the game, I think Aviva was a good introduction.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Bellyboyau]
.......
Walked in, ordered a 90 minute oil massage. Was just assigned a girl, Jenny. Very cute, nice large breasts, as it turned out, nice trimmed and tight pussy. Anyway, walked upstairs, had the shower, lay down naked, she was clothed in t-shirt and short shorts. The usual massage, fingers brushing my balls, concentrating on my ass, as well as back and legs. After about half an hour, with a little talking, little giggling, I was asked if I wanted extra massage. I asked how much, she said 1500 baht. I asked if that was on top of the 600 baht for the massage, and she said "yes, 600 for (pointed to downstairs) and 1500 for me". I said yes, without really knowing what I was buying! ...
[/QUOTE]
Technically you are in the wrong Thread. There is a Bangkok Massage Parlours thread.
Also if you were a reader of that thread, you would know exactly what the 1500 Baht would cover.
[QUOTE=Masacuata]
I would like some advice from experienced mongers in this region regarding my possible next mongering destination.
I am considering either Thailand / Colombia - Venezuela / Central America (Cuba, Dominican Republic, etc.) but I am still not sure which destination
would be a better option taking on count price-quality of girls and mongering infrastructure.
My previous mongering destinations were mainly Europe / Argentina / Brazil / Mexico
Latin girls are more attractive to me than dark skinned asians which I guess it is a relatively high proportion in Thailand, but I may be wrong, but maybe mongering options are not so well developed in Colombia/Costa Rica as in Thailand.
According to what you have seen, what would it make more sense to visit? I am planning 2-4 weeks of non stop sex and some sightseeing.[/QUOTE]I'd forget about Costa Rica/Central America if you want to spend less dough in Thailand, have 1000's of hot young ladies to choose from, and not get robbed of everything you own.
In Bangkok's P4P scene you will get darker skinned women than you are used to and prefer, so maybe this is not the place for you if skin colour is such a big deal. Although there are some Russian and other more whitish females here if you want to check LOS out & find you simply cannot stand gorgeous tanned TGs. That is, they look pretty much the same as a white person, except like one who has been baking in the sun. TGs cum in many shades of sunbathing.
If after a few days you find Thailand just makes you feel like barfing 24/7, Japan is only a couple bunny hops away. There the whiter than white are popping out like rabbits, although you will pay a premium. The Land Of Smiles will be the most economical of all listed.
From my reading the two most popular destinations in the world are Thailand and Brazil. Having experienced the latter already, I think you may be missing something if you don't try both while the wood pecker still pecks and before it's too late.
Good luck in where ever you decide.
Refs:
TheRx dot cum {Costa Rica forum}
PERB {Pacific Escort Review Board}
Sexwork dot com
[QUOTE=Bellyboyau]...I read a few reviews on massages places that offered "extra", and decided on Aviva...[/QUOTE]
That's a good report, and I'm glad you had a great time with your first oily in Thailand.
And now you know how expensive the average cost of sex is in Bangkok. :)
Next trip, come to Pattaya!
Regards,
Daddy
[QUOTE=Daddy07]And now you know how expensive the average cost of sex is in Bangkok. :)
Next trip, come to Pattaya![/QUOTE]
And the poor guy only got a CBJ for that 2,100 baht!
Regarding the debate about whether Masacuata should go to Thailand/Southeast Asia or Latin America, it should be kept in mind that there are definitely whiter girls available in the more 'Thai-oriented' side of the business, such as higher end massage parlours. Also some minority of these girls will have the more voluptuous T and A you get in Latin America. True, service is bad and prices are high in Thai oriented venues, but I believe the overall cost of girls, hotels, and travel in general is much higher in Latin America.
Lastly we get to the issue of passion - it is probably true that in general Latinas are a lot more passionate than Thais, but on the other hand here BBBJ is the norm, and even BBFS is not uncommon. I read that most everything is plastic in Latin America.
[QUOTE=Opebo]And the poor guy only got a CBJ for that 2,100 baht![/QUOTE]I assume you're referring to my report. Maybe I'm missing some in-joke here, but firstly I got full service for that price, and secondly, I made it clear that for the first time, price wasn't the biggest driver!
And Mick Licker, thanks for the pointer. I agree that I should have spent some more time in the Massage Parlours forum, and I would have had a better idea what to pay. Ah well, live and learn. I still think $65 AUD well spent for the first time.
Just to get it straight, the "Bangkok Reports" thread is for what exactly if it isn't reports of sexual encounters in massage parlours. Reports of sexual encounters with bar girls? Or anything other than Massage Parlours. Serious query.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Opebo]
Lastly we get to the issue of passion - it is probably true that in general Latinas are a lot more passionate than Thais, but on the other hand here BBBJ is the norm, and even BBFS is not uncommon. I read that most everything is plastic in Latin America.[/QUOTE]
Not at all for BBBJ and anal. BBFS very difficult to get.
I wouldn't do it anyway.
[QUOTE=El Greco]BBFS very difficult to get.[/QUOTE]
Quite easy to get actually. Just add a 1000 baht note.
But then again, I'm only 19 so.... looks do make them think otherwise.
If you want guaranteed bareback + shooting your load inside you may want to try the Indonesia and Phillipina girls. A condom is an insult to them.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]...In Bangkok's P4P scene you will get darker skinned women than you are used to and prefer, so maybe this is not the place for you if skin colour is such a big deal... [/QUOTE]No offense bro but I just wonder how many Thai p4p-ladies you have seen. Are the ladies in the soapies of a darker complexion than Latina's? Don't think so. Many ladies in the famous MP's are porcelain-white.
I think Thai people are on average very comparable to Latino's with regard to skin-colour.
Please confirm with the super-senior members of this forum.
[QUOTE=Skeeter]3. Sabai Sabai isn't bad for a good massage Soi 11 (generally) and extras on offer (hJ mainly)
4 - If your time is limited I'd stick to Cowboy. More nudity, better in general IMHO. Long Gun is a good start, then move on to the more hands on bars.[/QUOTE]Thanks Skeeter. Which gogos in Soi Cowboy would you consider more "hands on?"
[QUOTE=El Greco]Not at all for BBBJ and anal. BBFS very difficult to get.
I wouldn't do it anyway.[/QUOTE]
Just to clarify - bareback anal is easy to get in Latin America? Wow, I did not know that. Excuse me while I pack my bags!
[QUOTE=Satrai2000]No offense bro but I just wonder how many Thai p4p-ladies you have seen. Are the ladies in the soapies of a darker complexion than Latina's? Don't think so. Many ladies in the famous MP's are porcelain-white.
I think Thai people are on average very comparable to Latino's with regard to skin-colour.
Please confirm with the super-senior members of this forum.[/QUOTE]
My TG P4P experience is limited to an area from NEP to SC, and mostly around the former. Besides a handful of MPs, Biergarten & Thermae, it is also exclusively with SWs.
In 8 months of living in Bangkok I have walked around this area quite a bit and in doing so seen perhaps hundreds of WGs. Obviously I don't frequent bars much, but when they empty out around 2 a. m. across the street from my hotel I have had the opportunity to scan many ladies on numerous occasions. Additionally I've eyed them at various other hours of the evening, going in and out of the complex opposing the Nana Hotel.
I've never been to a soapie, and probably not one of your "famous" MP places either. The only porcelain white P4P Thai "girl" I can recall ever seeing was one who sometimes stood outside the Heidelberg bar on Soi 4, who claimed to be half German. My guess is this colour is easier to find in the P4P of some South American cuntries, certainly in Europe where Masacuata said he also has mongering experience.
Maybe he can find a list of these "famous MP's" with "many porcelain" like TGs in the MP section of ISG Thailand? And maybe they will also cum within his economical criterion or, as he put it, "price-quality".
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[QUOTE=Bellyboyau]I assume you're referring to my report. Maybe I'm missing some in-joke here, but firstly I got full service for that price, and secondly, I made it clear that for the first time, price wasn't the biggest driver!
And Mick Licker, thanks for the pointer. I agree that I should have spent some more time in the Massage Parlours forum, and I would have had a better idea what to pay. Ah well, live and learn. I still think $65 AUD well spent for the first time.
Just to get it straight, the "Bangkok Reports" thread is for what exactly if it isn't reports of sexual encounters in massage parlours. Reports of sexual encounters with bar girls? Or anything other than Massage Parlours. Serious query.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Looks like Opebo did some lazy reading and didn't notice the [i]entire paragraph[/i] where you talked about FS. He also didn't quote your message so we knew which post he was referring to. And then didn't acknowledge your apparently correct correction of his misquote. Maybe he'll read again and see the mistake and make good on it.
Yeah the unwritten rule is to post about massage places in the massage thread, and this one is for other kinds like go-gos, bars, clubs, etc. -- in a word, "nightlife". Plenty of people post and forget the rule from time to time, but good to keep in mind.
[QUOTE=Bellyboyau]
Just to get it straight, the "Bangkok Reports" thread is for what exactly if it isn't reports of sexual encounters in massage parlours. Reports of sexual encounters with bar girls? Or anything other than Massage Parlours. Serious query.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Its up to individual interpretation, but since there is a Bangkok Massage Parlours thread, most MP visits and info are reported there. The Bangkok thread is therefore for all other Bangkok stuff, e.g. bars and bargirls, freelancer street walkers, Gentlemen's clubs, etc.
I treat the General Thread for as the place for miscellaneous stuff that doesn't pertain to any particular place or perhaps stuff not related to sex, e.g. where to get a phone card, cameras, etc.
But 1500 Baht is the going rate for FS (full sex) in Bangkok "Oily" MPs so just ignore those who are saying its a lot of money. Some mongers are on a very tight budget.
[QUOTE=Neidermeyer]Thanks Skeeter. Which gogos in Soi Cowboy would you consider more "hands on?"[/QUOTE]
With regards to Cowboy, my recent visit to Long Gun was rather boring. The remaining most skilled dancers have left, in particular the skinny but very pretty Miss N.
The talent is down a bit at the moment. So I didn't bother to stay long. The crazy girl with spiky blonde hair is still there. But if you like Pat Pong type weird shows (I don't) like pussy firing darts, then Long Gun is O.K.
[QUOTE=Bellyboyau]
Overall, for a person new to the game, I think Aviva was a good introduction.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Nice report, thank you for taking the time to share.
I suggest you really read the Massage Thread to get acquainted with the prices and kind of service to expect.
I personally do not like Aviva but I am happy to see they might be getting better, maybe it is time I check it out again.
Also, one thing never to forget: Never agree to have a lady assigned to you, as the buyer, it is entirely your choice so ask to see all the ladies.
As good as the lady they assign you might look, there always might be an even better one waiting ;)
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...But 1500 Baht is the going rate for FS (full sex) in Bangkok "Oily" MPs so just ignore those who are saying its a lot of money. Some mongers are on a very tight budget.[/QUOTE]
That is quite true as far as the girl is concerned, but in order to avoid any confusion on this subject, lets not forget the fee for the house, which, I am told, ranges somewhere between 600-800 baht for a 90 minute session.
So the total cost for an average 90 minute session, including FS, will cost the monger 2100-2300 baht.
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot that the girls usually expect a little "tip" of 500 baht as well, which brings the actual cost up to 2600-2800 baht. Not bad for a session of great sex with a beautiful young girl, but not inexpensive either.
That's about what you pay, isn't it, Mick?
[QUOTE=Bellyboyau]I assume you're referring to my report. Maybe I'm missing some in-joke here, but firstly I got full service for that price,
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Looks like Opebo did some lazy reading and didn't notice the [i]entire paragraph[/i] where you talked about FS.[/QUOTE]
I most certainly did not read lazily, and I most certainly did understand that Bellyboy got 'full service' for that price. I was merely noting that all he got in the way of a blow job was a covered one - and thus to most of us worthless, and really somewhat below the standard one can still expect in Bangkok. However I do not doubt that BBBJ will become more and more rare as the scene declines, prices increase, and the supply of girls continues to contract.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]That is quite true as far as the girl is concerned, but in order to avoid any confusion on this subject, lets not forget the fee for the house, which, I am told, ranges somewhere between 600-800 baht for a 90 minute session.
So the total cost for an average 90 minute session, including FS, will cost the monger 2100-2300 baht.
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot that the girls usually expect a little "tip" of 500 baht as well, which brings the actual cost up to 2600-2800 baht. Not bad for a session of great sex with a beautiful young girl, but not inexpensive either.
That's about what you pay, isn't it, Mick?[/QUOTE]
Yeh Daddy,
Actually I don't usually add it up and what I pay isn't always the same. It depends on the girl a lot. If she was rather ordinary, I would just tip the standard 1500 in addition to the massage fee downstairs whatever it was.
I often reserve the right to extend to 2 hours, if I am having a good time.
I may pay extra beyond the 1500 to the girl if she put in a really exceptional performance and depending on how hard she had to work for it. This confuses the girl sometimes as I don't necessarily tip exactly the same amount each time for the same girl but explain that she got extra because I was specially difficult on that occasion.
Its fair that the harder she works, the more she gets.
I do work the girls harder than the average customer. But being rewarded accordingly, they are usually happy to see me again. Girls don't like guys that are unjust.
I like to repeat with girls that are consistently giving me a great time. It beats the normal crap shoot.
[QUOTE=Opebo]I most certainly did not read lazily, and I most certainly did understand that Bellyboy got 'full service' for that price. I was merely noting that all he got in the way of a blow job was a covered one - and thus to most of us worthless, and really somewhat below the standard one can still expect in Bangkok. However I do not doubt that BBBJ will become more and more rare as the scene declines, prices increase, and the supply of girls continues to contract.[/QUOTE]
Ah ok. Got it. Misunderstanding. When you said:
[QUOTE=Opebo]And the poor guy only got a CBJ for that 2,100 baht![/QUOTE]
to some people that reads as 'that's all he got'. But now of course I see you meant to refer just to the BJ portion of the session. I think Bellyboy thought you were slamming him for being a sucker and only getting a CBJ (and just that) for 2100.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Oh, yeah, I almost forgot that the girls usually expect a little "tip" of 500 baht as well, which brings the actual cost up to 2600-2800 baht. [/QUOTE]
No, they don't.
If you are refering to oilies, then the girls are very happy to pocket the 1,500 and do not expect anything more. Of course, tips are always well appreciated but not at all "expected".
Even the Tulip girls, who offer Anal as a standard to all customers do not charge more than 1,500. I always tip them because of the Anal offer and also for the fact that they are really service minded and make a lot of efforts, but none of them ever expect a tip.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Its fair that the harder she works, the more she gets.
I do work the girls harder than the average customer. But being rewarded accordingly, they are usually happy to see me again. Girls don't like guys that are unjust.[/QUOTE]
I agree with that, I yesterday was with a girl at a soi 26 oily and tipped her extra (over and above the 1,500) because we went at it for the full 2 hours of the session (I had trouble coming). She never complained and was rather happy saying I was "strong" and that she liked me. She gave me her phone and made me promise to call her on her day off so we can see each other again (Not sure I will do that as it is too soon to invite her to my home but I will surely go back and see her next week).
Now, what happends if the opposite occurs? the girl is lazy and gives you a below average session, would it be fair to underpay? LOL (I guess not)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
Now, what happends if the opposite occurs? the girl is lazy and gives you a below average session, would it be fair to underpay? LOL (I guess not)[/QUOTE]
It might be fair to underpay, but its not polite and you will get a bad reputation and soon every girl will be warned not accept you. I'm speaking hypothetically of course.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]It might be fair to underpay, but its not polite and you will get a bad reputation and soon every girl will be warned not accept you. I'm speaking hypothetically of course.[/QUOTE]
This unfair rigging of the game against the customer is why one should never tip. The reward to the good girls will be a very busy day with many returning customers, and thus a high income. The one who offers poor service will presumably have to subsist only on first-timers as no one will return to see her a second time.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]With regards to Cowboy, my recent visit to Long Gun was rather boring. The remaining most skilled dancers have left, in particular the skinny but very pretty Miss N.
The talent is down a bit at the moment. So I didn't bother to stay long. The crazy girl with spiky blonde hair is still there. But if you like Pat Pong type weird shows (I don't) like pussy firing darts, then Long Gun is O.K.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mick Licker. I will be in BKK for one night this Fri. Since I won't have much time, I'm looking for the best gogos for a great time, and to find quality girls (looks and service). Based on earlier reports, I was planning to hit Soi Cowboy, but now I'm not sure. Where should I go to maximize my time?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]No, they don't.
If you are refering to oilies, then the girls are very happy to pocket the 1,500 and do not expect anything more. Of course, tips are always well appreciated but not at all "expected".
Even the Tulip girls, who offer Anal as a standard to all customers do not charge more than 1,500. I always tip them because of the Anal offer and also for the fact that they are really service minded and make a lot of efforts, but none of them ever expect a tip.[/QUOTE]
I agree with NF, the girls at oilies never expect a tip but the girls in the soapies around Ratchada kind of expect a 500baht tip. I rarely tip at oilies but normally do give the girls at the soapies 500 baht. This is due partly to the fact that at oilies, the girls get the whole 1500 baht you give them while at the soapies they only get half of what you give the house. Sometimes it is even lower especially if some of the poor girls that don't know any better sign up with an agent. One of my friends that is heavy into the soapie scene and knows a lot of the mamasans and papasans say some of the girls really have a hard time. I'm not advocating to tip with poor service but just keep in perspective how lucky we are with the standard of living we have compared to them.
[QUOTE=Opebo]This unfair rigging of the game against the customer is why one should never tip. The reward to the good girls will be a very busy day with many returning customers, and thus a high income. The one who offers poor service will presumably have to subsist only on first-timers as no one will return to see her a second time.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure Opebo never wants to screw the same girl twice and is not looking for a GFE.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]It might be fair to underpay, but its not polite and you will get a bad reputation and soon every girl will be warned not accept you. I'm speaking hypothetically of course.[/QUOTE]
Well, yes it is fair to underpay if one thinks that the fee is linked with the girl's performance but sadly (for us) it isn't.
The way they think (and the way it is actually) is that the moment you insert your dick (even partially) in the pussy, you need to pay 1,500. Time does not matter, you can last a full hour or even 2 seconds, the price stays the same.
Here is what I do: I never tip a girl unless she went above and beyond the call of duty. Her giving me an above average sex experience will certainly be rewarded with a (or several) return visit, however, if she offers additional services (anal, 2 shots, CIM and the likes), I will most likely reward her for it with a tip (over and above the initial 1,500).
Be warned: Tipping left and right can be dangerous!
If you have a session with a girl you like and tip her for just good service, she might expect a tip everytime you go see her. Be clear about what you tip for, don't be scared to tell her why she got the tip.
Now, responding to Opebo's comment about not tipping, I cannot say I agree or disagree, I think it is best to leave it up to the punter's discretion.
I thought this place was on the verge of closing but it looks like it is not, look at their page on Rakuraku, they have made a real effort trying to promote it.
I am however not quite sure there is enough demand for this concept. Time will tell.
[url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_gogo.php?id=R020717[/url]
[QUOTE=Horntoad]I'm not advocating to tip with poor service but just keep in perspective how lucky we are with the standard of living we have compared to them.[/QUOTE]
Speak for youself, sir. These girls certainly make more than I or the vast majority of Western teachers in Thailand, and in fact no doubt make more than lots of people in the USA. And that in a country with a somewhat lower cost of living.
Look at it this way - girls in these places make around 2,000-3,000 baht per day, estimating conservatively. So say 60,000 baht per month, most of it untaxed. The average farang teacher in Thailand makes 35,000, and much of the working class back home makes no more than her, in a country where rent is $500-1,000/month.
So please don't misapply pity to these girls - they're raking it in, and doing something which comes naturally.
[QUOTE=Opebo]So please don't misapply pity to these girls - they're raking it in, and doing something which comes naturally.[/QUOTE]
You could always offer your services to the older Thai ladies in Thailand. There is a network of ladies looking for a lay. Like we do with escorts, they are paying a high price for their privacy and look for Farang dicks.
How do I know this? well, let's just say that while I was at one of my business parties, a certain older lady asked me if I was interested in meeting her Lonely friends. I was not at all interested in this so did not pursue the conversation further. Maybe OTH with his extensive experience knows about these.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You could always offer your services to the older Thai ladies in Thailand. There is a network of ladies looking for a lay. Like we do with escorts, they are paying a high price for their privacy and look for Farang dicks.
How do I know this? well, let's just say that while I was at one of my business parties, a certain older lady asked me if I was interested in meeting her Lonely friends. I was not at all interested in this so did not pursue the conversation further. Maybe OTH with his extensive experience knows about these.[/QUOTE]
Yes I know about the older Thai 'hen' clubs. They aren't necessarily looking for Farang dick, but young dick, in general. They often have private parties with hi-priced Thai gigilos as well as lower end Patpong style gogo boys. But, I also know of some that go after younger Farang working in offices and especially in schools. For example, there was a 30 year old (unqualified) Farang English teacher (American) at my uni who became the boy-toy of the late 40s Thai department head. She came from a well-healed Thai family and had lots of money when she met him. After a couple of years of basically keeping this guy in the manner to which he was unaccustomed, including a penthouse in the Farang ghetto around Suk 26, a car, trips, clothes, jewelry etc. he had all but bankrupted her, and in the end scammed her for the last 200,000 of her personal part of the family money and then buggered off to Vietnam.
I know of several other such stories. It's more common than is generally known.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I thought this place was on the verge of closing but it looks like it is not, look at their page on Rakuraku, they have made a real effort trying to promote it.
I am however not quite sure there is enough demand for this concept. Time will tell.
[url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_gogo.php?id=R020717[/url][/QUOTE]Luckily not, for I belong to the group of guys that like this concept.
[QUOTE=Opebo].....
Look at it this way - girls in these places make around 2,000-3,000 baht per day, estimating conservatively. So say 60,000 baht per month, most of it untaxed. The average farang teacher in Thailand makes 35,000, and much of the working class back home makes no more than her, in a country where rent is $500-1,000/month.
So please don't misapply pity to these girls - they're raking it in, and doing something which comes naturally.[/QUOTE]
Hi Opebo,
would you let yourself be fucked in the ass all day for 60,000 B, assuming you could find some farang interested ?
Gentlemen: This is a 2 parter.
1. I like the daytime. Where can I meet lovelies during the day? By day, I mean pre 4ish. Yes, I am aware of soapies, oilies, etc.
I have to think the issue is volume ans quality in day vs. night.
2. Do you know the optimum hours for Thermae and the Beer Garden? Are these daytime places or after the clubs close places?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Peterbeijing]Gentlemen: This is a 2 parter.
1. I like the daytime. Where can I meet lovelies during the day? By day, I mean pre 4ish. Yes, I am aware of soapies, oilies, etc.
I have to think the issue is volume ans quality in day vs. night.
2. Do you know the optimum hours for Thermae and the Beer Garden? Are these daytime places or after the clubs close places?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
The Beer Garden is mainly a daytime venue -----even though it is still open at night.
Thermae is only open at night, starts to get lively from 23-00.
You will struggle to find "quality" in either venue ---in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]The Beer Garden is mainly a daytime venue -----even though it is still open at night.
Thermae is only open at night, starts to get lively from 23-00.
You will struggle to find "quality" in either venue ---in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Patience is rewarded, and the fact that energy prices, food prices etc.. are all rising is now taking its toll. Lots more new faces at both venues, not full time, but occasional when money gets tight.
Had a few really nice ones from both venues - and now its low season, less "package tour types" around as high air fares take their toll as well, the level of girls freelancing has gotten much better over the past few weeks. Not a lot around, but a few that are certainly above "average".
I am going to be working very hard in both Bangkok and Pattaya soon. 2 weeks of serious mongering.
I'd like to try many options. I have heard that the Q club is where I might find fairly special freelancers. I guess this means a bit pricey. But, I would pay extra for beauty, brains, style and good conversation to fill in the blanks.
Is this a place worth my limited time? Any other ideas for a more primo experience?
From what I have seen and heard lately, my guess would be that you are better off staying in your room wanking rather than picking up a girl from Thermae.
[QUOTE=Peterbeijing] But, I would pay extra for beauty, brains, style and good conversation [/QUOTE]
I wish you the very best of luck, you will need it.
[QUOTE=Peterbeijing]I am going to be working very hard in both Bangkok and Pattaya soon. 2 weeks of serious mongering.
I'd like to try many options. I have heard that the Q club is where I might find fairly special freelancers. I guess this means a bit pricey. But, I would pay extra for beauty, brains, style and good conversation to fill in the blanks.
Is this a place worth my limited time? Any other ideas for a more primo experience?[/QUOTE]
My experience with the Qbar is that the girls are ok ... but not any more so than many of the mongering destinations in these pages and they'll want a lot more money. I don't think they are a higher standard, just more expensive. Beauty & style are easy enough - the others not so much
[QUOTE=Peterbeijing]Gentlemen: This is a 2 parter.
1. I like the daytime. Where can I meet lovelies during the day? By day, I mean pre 4ish. Yes, I am aware of soapies, oilies, etc.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Gullivers ... ; Chinatown....; around NEP area
Availability is easy enough during the day, quality is much more problematic.
Keep (or call) the girl from the night before
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]From what I have seen and heard lately, my guess would be that you are better off staying in your room wanking rather than picking up a girl from Thermae.[/QUOTE]Would you mind elaborating a bit?
[QUOTE=Peterbeijing]But, I would pay extra for beauty, brains, style and good conversation to fill in the blanks.[/QUOTE]
Brains? Good conversation? from a Thai girl? It might be a long search.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Brains? Good conversation? from a Thai girl? It might be a long search.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, you might have better luck at finding Big Foot. ;)
[QUOTE=Peterbeijing]I am going to be working very hard in both Bangkok and Pattaya soon. 2 weeks of serious mongering.
I'd like to try many options. I have heard that the Q club is where I might find fairly special freelancers. I guess this means a bit pricey. But, I would pay extra for beauty, brains, style and good conversation to fill in the blanks.
Is this a place worth my limited time? Any other ideas for a more primo experience?[/QUOTE]
I recommend the Pegagus Club. It's pricy, but the quality is above average. I have also had good luck with Bangkok gold Escort Agency.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Brains? Good conversation? from a Thai girl? It might be a long search.[/QUOTE]
Sorry guys, but I married the only one available. Damn is she smart.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]From what I have seen and heard lately, my guess would be that you are better off staying in your room wanking rather than picking up a girl from Thermae.[/QUOTE]
Hey, speak for yourself. I have had good luck there about 8 out of 10 times. Best time is after the Japanese have left and all the good looking ones hang out in front of Thermae, eating somtam.
Another thing that helps. I have a regular who for some reason always tries to get another one to join us. If I like one she will go over and talk to the girl to get her to join. Sometimes good and at other times I decline when I am too spent. :D
Are there any FS MPs near the airport that I could do in a 4-hr layover?
Couldn't find in a search.
[QUOTE=Skeeter]Gullivers ... ; Chinatown....; around NEP area
Availability is easy enough during the day, quality is much more problematic.
Keep (or call) the girl from the night before[/QUOTE]
Where in Chinatown? I was there only at daytime, didn't saw any signs of p4p.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Sorry guys, but I married the only one available. Damn is she smart.[/QUOTE]
I like a relatively quiet girl (peaceful).
I just got back fom Soi 3 where i fucked a really nice 18 year old Iranian girl..she had an amazing body and was a good fuck too...i was very surprised...cost was 1,500THB and i found her outside Grace Hotel.
There are a lot of Ukrainian girls outside Grace at the moment and some are not too bad at all, not the usual Uzbek bricklayers that you normally see...I thought this girl must have been Uzbek but she insisted she was indeed Iranian, I guess she wouldnt lie about it..either way it was a great change from the usual Thai girls...
[QUOTE=Bowerboy]I just got back fom Soi 3 where i fucked a really nice 18 year old Iranian girl..she had an amazing body and was a good fuck too...i was very surprised...cost was 1,500THB and i found her outside Grace Hotel.
There are a lot of Ukrainian girls outside Grace at the moment and some are not too bad at all, not the usual Uzbek bricklayers that you normally see...I thought this girl must have been Uzbek but she insisted she was indeed Iranian, I guess she wouldnt lie about it..either way it was a great change from the usual Thai girls...[/QUOTE]
You are quite lucky. ST prices outside Grace Hotel were in the 2500-3000 range last time I wondered about (late July). Many were 5/6 in looks at most amidst the ridicolous amount of ladyboys in disguise. Crappy attitude too. Damn inflation. And no discount for younger hobbyists such as myself (19) or those who come from Arab countries. Hmm. I wonder if you can find an Egyptian girl outside Grace Hotel... haha. Would be nice.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I like a relatively quiet girl (peaceful).[/QUOTE]
My wife and I have an understanding: she speaks only when spoken to, and when I want her opinion I will give it to her ;)
[QUOTE=Satrai2000]Luckily not, for I belong to the group of guys that like this concept.[/QUOTE]
what is the concept?
[QUOTE=Passepartout]what is the concept?[/QUOTE]
To separate you from as much of your money as possible in the shortest time possible.
Evil
[QUOTE=Retired Army]My wife and I have an understanding: she speaks only when spoken to, and when I want her opinion I will give it to her ;)[/QUOTE]Hmmm,
She speaks only when spoken to ---- but she is so intelligent. Intelligent women like to receive orders...yes. Sure. And of course you give your opinion to your intelligent wife.
I have Indian customers here who surprise me with statements like: "Woman, speak, if you are spoken to." I am not used to get such stupid statement from a western guy.
You talk nonsense, RA!
Giotto
Guys,
Besides the fact that it needs some time to get as frustrated about this country as I am, and besides the fact that tourists possibly never experience this, and besides the fact that some Westerners leave Thailand before it gets too bad (RA obviously made it) ... here the latest story. Usually posted in the "Giotto's Stories Thread", but today exclusively for everybody who reads the Bangkok thread of this forum.
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A few days ago a lady stormed into Livingstone's, and asked for the wife of the owner. The wife of the owner was not in - Chinatown, a party was to be prepared. The lady decided - to wait. For hours. Sitting at the pool, drinking some water - some hours long.
Mrs. Giotto came back and was asked whether she wants to buy a house. Mrs. Giotto basically does not want to buy a house. But - this was an old friend of hers, they worked together in a marketing company which produces commercials - so she listened. The lady wanted to sell her house in Rhangsit, an area close to the old Airport of Bangkok.
Mrs. Giotto talked to me, and I don't really need to buy a house at the moment. I have enough problems, Mrs. Giotto, Livingstone's, the customers, ISG members :) ... I really don't need any more problems at the moment. But - the price for the house was remarkably low - 1.3 Mio. THB for a house, no, not for one house, it was a double unit at one end of a town house series in Rhangsit - a lot of land, too, bought 2 years ago for 1.9 Mio., and then equipped with some more investment about THB 750,000.00 for interior design, furniture, aircons etc. etc. .
I listened to all this, and asked only one question: Why does she sell this house for this price?
Mrs. Giotto disappeared for at least 2 hours, and came back convinced that we should buy this house. The story was:
That lady has a farang husband, and she loves this husband so much, so unbelievalbly much ---- that she also has a Thai boyfriend!!! Yes, you guys out there, you don't believe all this, but this is Thailand. The farang boyfriend is 62 years old and from Australia - and somehow a woman needs some fun in between. The husband still lives in Australia ... so of course this Thai woman will have a boyfriend ...
2 years ago this farang husband had bought this house in Rhangsit for his wife (who is now 38 years old), basically to provide reasonable accomodation for the family of his wife. Ever since the family of the wife is living in this house. ---- Nice story!!! The family of the wife is from Chiang Rai - and they live in Chiang Rai. But the Thai boyfriend of the wife is living in that house, together with his family, parents, grandparents, brothers and sisters, all together 11 persons. Ok, not bad, stupid farang husband buys house for family of Thai boyfriend of his wife. This is Thailand - so everything is still normal.
Now - the wife complaints that the house is a bit small for all family members, and she needed a bigger house. 11 persons in that house (double unit) - too many people, a bigger house was needed. And - family needs to be close, the Thai lady needed the family around her, and she wanted her family to be closer to her.
The farang husband therefor decided to buy another house for the family, somewhere in the Ekkamai area, for THB 5.6 Mio. . That is definitely not much for that area.
Ok, the house was bought, but it needed furniture, interior design and equipment - the farang husband (staying in Australia) transferred THB 500,000.00 to his wife to buy/install all this necessary things - I understand, he did not want to have anything to do with all this - but he paid.
The wife received the THB 500,000.00 - and she, and she, and she ... yes, of course, she wanted to buy all this interior stuff, but ... but ... it was much more fun to gamble a little bit. So she gambled. And - within a few days, hours, minutes - seconds ---- she had lost all the THB 500,000.00 .
Now - there was a problem. The farang husband was important. He was the main income source for the Chiang Rai family, the family of the Thai boyfriend, the income source of hers ... if he found out about this gambling losses he would possibly close the money source - or much worse, he would be angry and look for another wife, or whatever, he would not be too happy if he found out that his wife had lost THB 500,000.00 in gambling sessions.
The husband will return to Thailand soon (before the end of this month).
The wife needs to get some money in that she can present her husband that she bought some interior stuff for that house.
She urgently needs money...very urgently...and that's why she sells that house in Rhangsit.
She talked to my wife: THB 1.3 for that house was really a good deal, and Mrs. Giotto should ask me to pay 1.9 Mio., the house was easily worth it, and I would pay that, and this lady would transfer the land for 1.3 to Mrs. Giotto, and both could split up the difference ha-sip/ha-sip (50/50)..., Mr. Giotto did not need to know about the real price of the transaction... he simply needs to pay. That's all he needs to do ...
Means: Hey, you also only have a farang boyfriend as a money source, so use it, suck as much money out of him as you can suck ...
...
I sometimes wonder whether the people out there know how dangerous this country is, if you really get involved into some serious affairs. We discuss here to many times about bar girls and regulars, even about intelligence :) (RA, Sorry!) ... but what I have learned up to now in this country is:
[b][size=+2]DO NOT TRUST ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY![/size][/b]
What I mean is:
- do not trust Thai business men
- do not trust Thai women in general
- do not trust Thai regulars
- do not trust Thai bar girls
- do not trust Farang living in Thailand
- do not trust Farang connected to a Thai woman but NOT living in Thailand
I know, you all will kick my arse now. But I know that I am right!
[b][size=+2]DO NOT TRUST ANYBODY IN THAILAND!!!![/size][/b]
Giotto
Today I played pool ... and a customer came in, a customer coming many times to Livingstone's, but as I think not [only] for Livingstone's, but for a girl working in our bar. He really likes this girl!
The girl had just returned today, she was upcountry for some days. Before this customer came in many times, and the girl always seamed to be happy. Today the customer came in, because the girl just returned from ... upcountry (have a hick-up, cannot laugh) ... he really likes her. And - she did not take care at all! She definitely ignored him.
Before this customer had taken her out, had bought drinks for her, came nearly every day ... but today the girl was hiding somewhere, did not want to go with that customer.
I watched it, quite concerned about the customer, but - I couldn't do anything. I never talked to that customer before - he did not know me, and he would not take me seriously anyway.
Then - the door of the bar opened, and another customer came in. Also a good customer of Livingstone's. Rich. Very rich. Very Very Very Rich!
That girl immediately greeted that customer and sat down with him. She did not notice the other customer at all. I don't want to imagine how he felt - but I think he really felt like shit. He was treated like shit, here in our bar.
The girl left the bar with the rich customer. He paid the barfine.
This is Thailand. Whether it is Livingstone's or another place - there is no major difference. There are so many pieces of shit around here - nobody can count.
Money is what counts. Nothing else does.
Giotto
Giotto, your stories today, even though veering away from the norm, should come as no surprise to people familiar with SE Asia, not just Thailand.
INDONESIA : I heard of a foreign customer who was pissed off at his furniture supplier and threatened to stop working with them if they didn't improve their overall business practices. On his next order, they built crates and filled them with sand, to the same weight that the furniture would have been, and sent it off. In Indonesia, suppliers get paid before the goods arrive at destination, so the guy paid, got his container, opened it, and found........sand. He went ballistic and called them on the phone. The suppliers laughed at him, told him to fuck off, and dared him to come over and see them.
Amazin SE Asia.
Anybody else got horror stories involving the wonderful ethics of some business people.
PS. You should be grateful Mrs G told you of the scam her friend was trying to pull on you.
[QUOTE=Giotto]...[b][size=+2]DO NOT TRUST ANYBODY IN THAILAND!!!![/size][/b]
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Ha ha ha!!! Great story!
I can't even trust myself in Thailand. :D
[QUOTE=Daddy07]I can't even trust myself in Thailand. :D[/QUOTE]
Priceless... you made me laugh hard with that one
Giotto,
As usual, your stories are a pure delight ! you give people here an insight that is priceless.
I am eagerly waiting for the next piece. Fortunately for you (or is it really?) in your line of work you see uncommon things every day. ;)
Giotto,
Sadly your story is so right along with your opinion. Although many of us have read and heard stories such as this as you live here longer sooner or later this types of story start to hit alittle closer to home.
I wasn't born yesterday and consider myself pretty aware of what is going on around me but being here in Thailand I have learned the hard way that you better train yourself to let the big head do all the thinking and there are times even when the big head does the thinking you still can get screwed. Keep yourself alert at all times and listen and don't trust anyone as Giotto has noted. It doesn't mean you have to be mean and disrespectful to everyone. If you get in trouble and expect the legal system to help you " forget it " the culture and legal system compared to how we expect or learned in the Western world doesn't exist here. Sometimes the only thing the Thai's understand is to show them the old fashion way. You play you pay even if it comes down to your life.
I've always tried to do the right thing and give everyone the benefit of the doubt but in Thailand people will sell you out for a baht here and a baht there so visitors and farangs living here " Beware " but it doesn't mean you can't still have a good time!
Just when I thought I was getting out they draw me back in! LBM
[quote=retired army]my wife and i have an understanding: she speaks only when spoken to, and when i want her opinion i will give it to her ;)[/quote]
bullshit.
when i have more time i will continue my zorro/bullshit effort.
re;
quote:
originally posted by retired army
bullshit. i spent 22 years in the army and i ain't ever pissed on my feet, intentionally that is. there was once in the philippines when i was drunk that i think i pissed on just about everything.
don't be an asshole.
soon i'll go over all of your posts and write "bullshit" over every one that i don't agree with....probably be just over 1,000. i was only trying to post some helpful information that many believe in due to the urea in your waste product.
i have been in places (gymnasium, showers in poorly maintained hotels, brothel showers, etc.)....and this method......once espoused by sgt. azevedo and lt. devries works for me. maybe you were not privy to this information as no one liked you.
[url]http://www.techimo.com/forum/imo-co...foot-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url].html[/url]
[url]http://naturalcurereviews.com/remed...hletesfoot.html[/url]
maybe it works for some...and not for others. who gives a shit how long you were in the army? don't be so quick to judge others....oh...and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off.
[QUOTE=Giotto]Hmmm,
She speaks only when spoken to ---- but she is so intelligent. Intelligent women like to receive orders...yes. Sure. And of course you give your opinion to your intelligent wife.
I have Indian customers here who surprise me with statements like: "Woman, speak, if you are spoken to." I am not used to get such stupid statement from a western guy.
You talk nonsense, RA!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Oh come on Giotto you know better than that. Can't you tell when I am
"pulling your leg" with tongue firmly planted in cheek?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Oh come on Giotto you know better than that. Can't you tell when I am
"pulling your leg" with tongue firmly planted in cheek?[/QUOTE]LOL,
I think I had no sense of humour last night. I was just going to delete that stupid report, but you read it already ...
I apologize!
Giotto
[QUOTE=1Ball]Giotto, your stories today, even though veering away from the norm, should come as no surprise to people familiar with SE Asia, not just Thailand.
...[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,
"veering away from the norm" - what does that mean? What is the norm?
Giotto
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...
As usual, your stories are a pure delight ! you give people here an insight that is priceless.
I am eagerly waiting for the next piece. Fortunately for you (or is it really?) in your line of work you see uncommon things every day. ;)[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,
Thanks,
All stories I write have truly happened. Nothing added, no lies. Simple reality.
Today I wasted half of the day at the immigration (Sathon Road). Shall I write a report about that :) ???
This country is unbelievable ... oh my god, will I ever get used to all that?
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]LOL,
I think I had no sense of humour last night. I was just going to delete that stupid report, but you read it already ...
I apologize!
Giotto[/QUOTE]No all very interesting - have a look at this which was in the Observer in London last week -
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/17/thailand.familyandrelationships[/url]
Lot of problems caused by the property laws and restrictions on foreign ownership
[QUOTE=Giotto]Guys... here the latest story.
[b][size=+2]DO NOT TRUST ANYBODY IN THAILAND!!!![/size][/b]
[/QUOTE]
Great story Giotto! And just think he could have avoided all that expense by only doing short time. For example lets say he spends six months per year in Thailand (high estimate), and pays 2,000 baht per short time (very high end), and does it once a day (he's 62 after all), so we're at about 360,000 Thai baht per year. Certainly cheaper than a wife, and without the ridiculous stricture of having to (mostly) fuck only one woman.
[QUOTE=Giotto]
Then - the door of the bar opened, and another customer came in. Also a good customer of Livingstone's. Rich. Very rich. Very Very Very Rich!
That girl immediately greeted that customer and sat down with him. She did not notice the other customer at all. I don't want to imagine how he felt - but I think he really felt like shit. He was treated like shit, here in our bar.
The girl left the bar with the rich customer. He paid the barfine.
This is Thailand. Whether it is Livingstone's or another place - there is no major difference. There are so many pieces of shit around here - nobody can count.
Money is what counts. Nothing else does.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Interesting story but it does not shock or surprise me, these girls are mercenary prostitutes, nothing more, nothing less ----- anyone who thinks they are not is sadly deluded, as you quite rightly say -"Money is what counts"
[QUOTE=Giotto]Today I played pool ... and a customer came in, a customer coming many times to Livingstone's, but as I think not [only] for Livingstone's, but for a girl working in our bar. He really likes this girl!
The girl had just returned today, she was upcountry for some days. Before this customer came in many times, and the girl always seamed to be happy. Today the customer came in, because the girl just returned from ... upcountry (have a hick-up, cannot laugh) ... he really likes her. And - she did not take care at all! She definitely ignored him.
Before this customer had taken her out, had bought drinks for her, came nearly every day ... but today the girl was hiding somewhere, did not want to go with that customer.
I watched it, quite concerned about the customer, but - I couldn't do anything. I never talked to that customer before - he did not know me, and he would not take me seriously anyway.
Then - the door of the bar opened, and another customer came in. Also a good customer of Livingstone's. Rich. Very rich. Very Very Very Rich!
That girl immediately greeted that customer and sat down with him. She did not notice the other customer at all. I don't want to imagine how he felt - but I think he really felt like shit. He was treated like shit, here in our bar.
The girl left the bar with the rich customer. He paid the barfine.
This is Thailand. Whether it is Livingstone's or another place - there is no major difference. There are so many pieces of shit around here - nobody can count.
Money is what counts. Nothing else does.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Maybe there is a good reason the girl ignored the customer, Giotto. You don't have a clue what goes on between them when they're out of your bar.
I'm not going to speculate what it might be because the possibilities are endless and most of them have nothing to do with money.
I can say that I've spent a fair bit of time with one of the LL girls and she has declined my offers to purchase gifts for her when we've been together, and never once asked me for money in our email correspondence, nor have I sent her any. She generally behaves less like a prostitute than most of my, and my friends', girlfriends/wives here in Farangland who are financial bloodsuckers by comparison.
I'm a customer, and I still think you should be on the girl's side except in very clear cases. The customers are big boys and have - God knows - loads of options for getting laid in Bangkok. They don't need your help or misplaced sympathy. The girls, on the other hand, need your support and sometimes protection.
[QUOTE=Giotto]LOL,
I think I had no sense of humour last night. I was just going to delete that stupid report, but you read it already ...
I apologize!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
No apology necessary. It's all in fun and hopefully no one takes it too seriously.
[QUOTE=Washburn]...
I'm a customer, and I still think you should be on the girl's side except in very clear cases.
...[/QUOTE]Washburn,
Don't worry, I am most of the times on the girls side - may be too much. Sometimes I think I am blind on the customers eye ...
We always tried to make this place a little bit different with all the benefits, support and protection we give to the girls. That's why a behavior like this shocks me. It is furthermore a question of good behavior to say Hello and have a short smalltalk, even if the girl has plans already for later in the evening. The customer knows in which business the girls works, and he cannot complain if the girl has a date already with another guy.
May be she simply had a bad day.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]
[b]DO NOT TRUST ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY![/b]
What I mean is:
- do not trust Thai business men
- do not trust Thai women in general
- do not trust Thai regulars
- do not trust Thai bar girls
- do not trust Farang living in Thailand
- do not trust Farang connected to a Thai woman but NOT living in Thailand
Giotto[/QUOTE]
But we do trust [b]italian painters[/b] :D
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]But we do trust [b]italian painters[/b] :D[/QUOTE]
...and German sausage makers?
[QUOTE=Giotto]Washburn,
Don't worry, I am most of the times on the girls side - may be too much. Sometimes I think I am blind on the customers eye ...
We always tried to make this place a little bit different with all the benefits, support and protection we give to the girls. That's why a behavior like this shocks me. It is furthermore a question of good behavior to say Hello and have a short smalltalk, even if the girl has plans already for later in the evening. The customer knows in which business the girls works, and he cannot complain if the girl has a date already with another guy.
May be she simply had a bad day.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
I've gotten the impression that LL is a really good place to work, and I think that pays off in the attitudes of your girls, who are charming by any standard, and great fun to be around.
Whatever you're doing is working, and I know that your customers - including me - rate LL and its ladies very highly.
Went to Nana Plaza G-spot 2nd floor. Nice girls in there. Had a drink, and choose one girl. Her name is "oh" or so. She has No. 1.
Lookes like 20 but is 29 very slim, small, just as I like them.
Barfine 600 baht, short time 1500-2000 depends on the time in the evening. They will not negotiate the price too much.
We went to my hotel and had a nice shorttime session. Frech kissing, BBBJ CIM, fucking, really very good performance. She is this weekend off, will come back on Monday.
Maybe tomorrow I will choose her friend no 50. Who lookes very pretty too.
Thomas Jefferson
[QUOTE=Washburn]...
Whatever you're doing is working, and I know that your customers - including me - rate LL and its ladies very highly.[/QUOTE]Washburn,
Thanks for the flowers, but I am not so sure about that any more.
I think we have some really good girls working at Livingstone's. But if I watch cases like this I can only shake my head. That's exactly what I don't want to happen here. Let's play the game honest and fair - and with good style and behavior. What that girl did that night had no style at all, and only showed bad behavior.
What shocks me most is that she is one of those I considered up to now to be the best...
Giotto
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]But we do trust [b]italian painters[/b] :D[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,
In general you can trust italian painters (except they want to borrow money from you, artists never have money :) ).
In this specific Giotto case you CANNOT trust, because he is a Farang living in Thailand (Case 5) :):):) .
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]What shocks me most is that she is one of those I considered up to now to be the best...[/QUOTE]
everyone is allowed a bad day and a few mistakes in life...
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]But we do trust [b]italian painters[/b] :D[/QUOTE]
What about Italian painters connected to a Thai wife and doing business in Thailand?
Just teasing. ;)
[QUOTE=Wendella]What about Italian painters connected to a Thai wife and doing business in Thailand?
...[/QUOTE]Wendella,
No question, those people are the worst of all :) .
Giotto