Berlin

[QUOTE=Hazukis]looks like They change the URL, go here

[url]http://www.la-passion-escort.eu[/url][/QUOTE]

This new La Passion (la passion.eu as opposed to la passion.de) has, it appears, nothing what so ever to do with the La Passion escort service of Berlin. This looks to be an indy escort who is not even based in Berlin, but in Essen.

The Berlin agency La Passion has changed its' name to Ophelia Escorts as mentioned in a post below. Not sure why they changed the name. That is often done when a place gets a really bad reputation. But, IME, this agency is one of the better small agencies in Berlin. At least I have always been satisfied with their service if you read my posts.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Maybe you are talking about the Hautnah/Bitchclub agency? They had a small number of Romanian girls who were, for the most part, excellent performers. Back in the forum you will find a number of glowing reports.[/QUOTE]I found a cached version of their website (allthough without the pictures), and it seems that I indeed was one of them I had a visit from about 2 years ago.

I know it was probably a longshot, I will probably just stick to Artemis anyway. Plans have changed slightly which also means that I can't go mongering all the time after all.

Thanks to the other guys with suggestions for websites that I can use in my research, none of them really matches up with the Hamburger site, allthough there are a gem or two hiding around I believe.

Thanks,

Peter

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]You had the right address but La Passion has changed its' name to Ophelia Escort.

[url]http://ophelia-escort.de/index.php?module=Pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=10012&pid=1[/url]

Same girls though the line up looks a little scarce.[/QUOTE]Thanks Angus and others. GIven the time I have in berlin and location I have narrowed choices to liberty and monrouge.

One newbie detail question I have is about entrance to these places. When I google monrouge, it seems a pub as well as hotel are in the same location similarly liberty bldg seems to have dentists etc.

Can someone help me what the entry detail is. Is there a well marked sign and door around the building or you have to call the telephone number from downstairs and somebody comes to get you (for monrouge and liberty)

Thanks in anticipation

[QUOTE=Lucknow]Thanks Angus and others. GIven the time I have in berlin and location I have narrowed choices to liberty and monrouge.

One newbie detail question I have is about entrance to these places. When I google monrouge, it seems a pub as well as hotel are in the same location similarly liberty bldg seems to have dentists etc.

Can someone help me what the entry detail is. Is there a well marked sign and door around the building or you have to call the telephone number from downstairs and somebody comes to get you (for monrouge and liberty)

Thanks in anticipation[/QUOTE]


Hi,

Like most-all actually-bordellos in Berlin both these places are located in building that house other businesses. So you go to the address, find the buzzer with the name of the bordello and press the buzzer. You wait a few seconds and are buzzed in. Then you find the door which is the entrance (differs with every bordello but generally they are on a lower floor) and again press a buzzer to be let in. It is a remarkably simple procedure.

I guess the one thing that could be uncomfortable for some is that as they are in the same building as other business, depending on time of day, you are likely to run into others on the stairs etc.. All I can say is have no fear-chances are these folks are either a) mongers like yourself or b) visiting the dentist. If b) then likely they do not know that there is a bordello there. And if they do, not much you can do about it. People here are generally accepting of these things and Germans are far too polite to yell out to you on the stairs if they think you are going to a bordello. In short, it will seem much more obvious to you than it will anyone else, where you are going and what you are going to do.

The only time I have had anything weird happen is in Neuköln going into La Dolce Vita. This bordello is in a building that is otherwise residential. As I was ringing the bell a group of young Turkish guys came up behind me. They knew what I was up to and started to sort of harass me verbally in German. I just put my head down and headed in to the door which luckily opened quickly.

This is the one and only time I have ever had anything happen that was the least bit embarrassing entering a bordello. And as I say, it was in a residential building which is definitely the exception.

AM

PS-Liberty is in a block with a number of sex related businesses. The buzzer is clearly marked as Liberty and the bordello is two floors up.

Mon Rouge is in an old stately building (no pub as far as I remember, there is one on the corner a couple of store down) and the buzzer is marked Mon Rouge. The bordello is one floor up on the left as you reach the top of the stairs.

The only bordello you really have to read the web page is Kamilla Dee. There the buzzer is marked Text & Form, not Kamilla Dee. Not sure why this is

For those who are interested, Klein Zierlich is back on line and back from "urlaub" with a few new girls. Well, in truth two are from the old Hautnah agency, Miky & Claudia.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/index.html[/url]

Both these girls have had good reports in the past on the forum when they were with Hautnah. But be warned, the pics, at least of Miky, are from a couple of years back. And both girls have been coming to Berlin to work escort for several years now. So they are not young sweet fresh teenys as is suggested in the ad. But then if past performance is to be trusted, they were both good providers.

AM

Is there a red light district in Berlin ? I will go to Artemis but want another venue and don't have a car so appreciate an area of condensed workers and providers.

[QUOTE=Boofer]Is there a red light district in Berlin ? I will go to Artemis but want another venue and don't have a car so appreciate an area of condensed workers and providers.[/QUOTE]There is no real red light district in Berlin, that is a small concentrated area as you find in Frankfurt. The bordellos/kinos/clubs are spread pretty much throughout Berlin with a heavier concentration in certain areas. If you are staying in Wilmersdorf / Charlottenberg then you will be close walking or transit distance to many of the better & higher priced places. But there are also in this area a selection of less expensive places. Most of these places can be found (short description + contact details) in my Berlin bordello guide.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936[/url]

Berlin is a very easy city to get around in by transit. Here is the BVG website with which to plan trips.

[url]http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html[/url]

AM

Angus, thanks for the heads up.

Had Madelaine for a longer session. She has pleasant to be with, sexy and overall I did find Klein-Zielich a great replacement for B'Club (née Hautnah). I might ask Simona over and post a longer review after that, time permitting...

Without wanting to cause some sort of early eleventh hour panic - the girls will stay for 2 or 3 months only.


[QUOTE=Angus Magee]For those who are interested, Klein Zierlich is back on line and back from "urlaub" with a few new girls. Well, in truth two are from the old Hautnah agency, Miky & Claudia. ...

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boofer]Is there a red light district in Berlin ? I will go to Artemis but want another venue and don't have a car so appreciate an area of condensed workers and providers.[/QUOTE]There is Kurfurstenstrasse. Better go there in a car :)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]There is no real red light district in Berlin, that is a small concentrated area as you find in Frankfurt. The bordellos/kinos/clubs are spread pretty much throughout Berlin with a heavier concentration in certain areas. If you are staying in Wilmersdorf/Charlottenberg then you will be close walking or transit distance to many of the better & higher priced places. But there are also in this area a selection of less expensive places. Most of these places can be found (short description + contact details) in my Berlin bordello guide.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936[/url]


Berlin is a very easy city to get around in by transit. Here is the BVG website with which to plan trips.

[url]http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]


Thanks s Angus, this is extremely useful......

have anybody tried those agencies

[url]http://www.escortmodelle24.de/[/url]
or
[url]http://www.sexy-girls-berlin.de/gallery_e.html[/url]

looking forward to Berlin

Does anyone have any experience with Adventure-escort.com

They seem to have some knockouts in berlin like

[url]http://www.adventure-escort.com/escort-berlin-valerie-de-115.html[/url]

But are expensive.

Any info appreciated

[QUOTE=Roll Buzz]There is Kurfurstenstrasse. Better go there in a car :)[/QUOTE]



This area is not really what I would call a RLD. It is a street prostitution area. Aside from the fact that i do not recommend street action (for various reasons but most of all you can get better for very little more than you pay on the street) this area is an option. And you do not really need a car. There are hour hotels in the area that provide the girls short term rentals. I also think that you can use the big LSD film sex shop on the corner that has sex film booths for bjs.

But it is all very seedy. And it is a bit of a rough area of town. I personally have never felt threatened walking through even late at night, but I guess the possibility of trouble exists.

You would also have to deal with the language issues. Some girls might speak a bit of English but many do not even speak German past telling you the prices.

[QUOTE=Lucknow]Does anyone have any experience with Adventure-escort.com

They seem to have some knockouts in berlin like

[url]http://www.adventure-escort.com/escort-berlin-valerie-de-115.html[/url]

But are expensive.

Any info appreciated[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Yes some nice looking girls. But way over priced. I think if you look you can find the same quality girls, and in some cases even the same girls, for less money. 400 euros/hour? plus extras!!! You would have to have way more money than brains to go for this "deal".

IMHO of course.

I am going to Berlin next week and will spend most of my mongering time at Artemis and some of the recommended bordellos. However I am intererested in trying out one of the famous Berlin Kinos.

Which Kinos are the best? Can you share any of your experiences?

I promise to write a report on my travels. I usually do when I go abroad to seek the broads.

Thanks,

Mass Monger

[QUOTE=Mass Monger]I am going to Berlin next week and will spend most of my mongering time at Artemis and some of the recommended bordellos. However I am intererested in trying out one of the famous Berlin Kinos.

Which Kinos are the best? Can you share any of your experiences?[/QUOTE]

Kinos are not really my thing at the moment but you will find what experiences I do have back in the forum. I know it is a bit of work but if you really have the interest....

And here is a link to my report from 1.5 years back listing massage,clubs & kinos. I think most of the kino info is still relevant.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776559&postcount=1000[/url]

AM

I didn't go to Berlin for quiete a while, but next week I will be there. So I had a look on different web-sides. What I found ([url]www.Berlinintim.de[/url]) was announcements from an establishment called Mr. Jones. It is far away from the center, but they show very interesting pictures of very beautyful girls. Of course, this may be fakes. Has somebody been there allready?. Have a good time.

SC

[QUOTE=Lucknow]Does anyone have any experience with Adventure-escort.com

They seem to have some knockouts in berlin like

[url]http://www.adventure-escort.com/escort-berlin-valerie-de-115.html[/url]

But are expensive.

Any info appreciated[/QUOTE]

I agree these look very good! I haven't seen this site before but the escort agencies I''ve tried are below:

Escort IN
[url]www.escort-in.de/[/url]
This one is good and reliable. OK service, probably on any given day only one or two girls available. 1hr 220€ The one i met was much better looking than the photos, very active and offered owo and extra ball (i.e. after the first time she said, "i want more"). 24yo not much experience in the sack. She arrived exactly at the requested time (I booked her twice) and claimed I was her 3rd escort client and she had only started 3 weeks before. But she gets a 1/10 for discretion because I saw her out in a chicki micki club, rather she saw me when i was with two very nice looking friends who are girls, and when i didn't notice her she stopped me from behind when we were walking out of the room to ask if i was "with friends or escorts", she said "they are friends right?" So I'm still asking myself, what is that? jealous? psycho? So after that I didn't book her anymore.

She only gets a 1 rather than a 0/10 on discretion/professionalism because she at least waited until they were walking ahead of me to stop me. While she looked better in person than the photos, when she was dressed up to go clubbing she looked even better still. So i give her 9/10 for looks, 8/10 for performance (because she was a true GFE, sex hungry, deep kissing, owo, very enthusiastic about offering every position) and 1/10 for professionalism

Nude Escort
[url]www.nude-escort.de[/url]
Good looking girls on the website, most not German, Russian management. Had a bad experience with them as the girl told the agency she saw somebody coming out of an apartment a few floors below me, thought he was the client and said he was too old. The agency apologized but thought it was normal that she didn't want to meet somebody old and refused to believe it wasn't me. Also services promised on the phone didn't agree with what is written on the web and they seems to have a lot of reviews on some sites like qype or google maps but they are almost the only agency with any reviews, so maybe they wrote them. The girl i saw getting back in the car from my window was quite good looking, so it might be worth a try if you have extra time for goatshit and excuses. Also 200€/1 hour, but if they add on 20€ for taxi it's the same as Escort IN.

Berlin Beauties
[url]www.berlin-beauties.de[/url]
I decided to try a low end bargain agency to replace my lost 100€/hr kijiji girl. And this one fit the bill because it seemed to have real photos and cost 90€/hour. So if you look at the website you can see that the girls have photos but you can never see the face. I didn't really worry about that, because for this price if they are showing a beautiful girl I don't think I would get her anyway. So I picked one and she showed up early with a big smile and an average face. She was Polish and all in all she was fun and interesting to talk to and when she took off her clothes she had a 10/10 perfect body and a 5.5/10 face. But was also great in the bed let's say 8/10, so for 90€ I would get her again. (i gave her 100 because i didn't have change and she wanted to give me back 10, not really expecting a tip). Even if I give her the same sex rating as I give the Escort IN girl, the Polish was more like physical sex and the Escort IN more like Hungry passion. They were both 24yo, but the Polish was much more skilled in the sack, doing timid kissing with tongue and owo (both supposedly at her discretion - she asked me if i wanted owo). She left at 60minutes on the dot because she said she had to go meet another client.

The second time I tried Berlin Beauties was last night and the first girl was not available and out of town supposedly and it sounded like only 2 or 3 out of the whole agency were available. When I asked when Julia would be available she said, I don't know, one month, one week? She sent photos but never started working. So i chose another. She was really a 90€ girl. And other than the color of the hair I can't say there was any resemblance to the photos. I would give her 4/10 for the face and 6/10 for the body. So I kept her because it was only 90€, but she was certainly the worst girl I ever paid, falling into the "if she asked me to take her home i would say no" category. Anyway the sex experience matched the physical experience and I let her go after 30min talking and 15 in the bed. I only talked to her so long first because I correctly guessed that was where the greatest value was.

This agency is the same as luxus-waehlen.de and supposedly (according to the first girl i met) some girls work in both with the difference that booking from one site will cost you 180€ and the other 90€. I think the reality is that if luxus waehlen doesn't have any girls, they will try to send you one of the better looking polish girls from the berlin-beauties agency, because neither one ever seems to have more than one or two girls available.

Comparison:
So all in all, the berlin-beauties experience cost me 190€ for one good lay and a bad memory. Escort In cost me 220€ for a memorable lay (so i did it twice). Which is worth more? For me Escort IN! The only interest in the 90€ agency is that if you can find a keeper you can keep booking her and save a lot of money. But you can also do that with the VIP girl if you get her number and she doesn't turn out to be a jealous psycho. Unfortunately if you are just in town for a few days, neither of these follow-up plans are an option. So you have to decide which mix of quality/convenience/reliability makes sense to you.

Just writing this whole experience because in my experience, the Escort IN girl, if I had met her for the first time in the bar and managed to go out with her, would have ended up costing me at least 500EUR to go out with before I could get sex with her. So guys who are used to getting this sort of girl in a bar, club, etc. And assuming they can, are just paying more or less the same price but saving some time. When you just want to get a girl quick, you can do the 90€ thing, but you also might end up getting 2 or 3 before you are satisfied. from my experiences i've had very few to zero unsatisfactory experience with the higher priced escorts. The Nude escort story above is really the only bad one. Is it a waste of money? Some guys who go to Artemis are staying in a youth hostel and some in a four star hotel. Some guys drive a volkswagen and some drive a Bentley. Some pay 500€/hr for an escort and some pay 60€/hr. So in the end people are going to choose what they are comfortable with.

So I would go for the Adventure Escorts sometime I think. The price for most of them is 250€/hour and there is one on there who looks like Claire in Lost, and another in Postdam who is the most expensive at 300€/hour who also looks like she's worth a try. If I had skipped the 2nd berlin "beauty", I could get the Potsdam hottie for an effective price of 200€. There's a lesson in there somewhere!

Hi Hektor,

Thanks for the report on higher end agencies in Berlin. Always good to know this stuff even if I myself will never use the info-or should I say it is unlikely.
In the end It does come down to how much we are willing/able to pay. I am sure that there are many guys out there who do not blink at the 250-300 euro per hour price tag. But in the end it always comes down to did you have a good time with the girl. In my experience price is not always a good indicator for this.

As for the site, Adventure Escorts, I can assure you that there is at least one girl on there charging 250+extras (and probably taxi) who can be had for much less. And she is a very nice girl both physically & personality. I am guessing that the realities of the higher end (for the girls) are that there are not as many men willing to pay 250+/hr. as there are men willing to pay 120. So the girls advertise different rates on different site and see who bites.

But then one needs to have the time & the inclination to figure out which girls are which on which ads. Not so easy really and it is often just through dumb luck that one figures it out. One trick that I use is to put the phone number given through google to see what turns up.

Anyway I do appreciate the report and if you want some more info on the girl I am speaking of you can pm me. I do not want to share the info in the open forum as I know the girl and like her. I will not blow her cover here. But for an obviously experienced & sophisticated monger such as yourself, one who has made a good contribution to the forum, I will share the info.

AM

[QUOTE=Severin Carl]I didn't go to Berlin for quiete a while, but next week I will be there. So I had a look on different web-sides. What I found ([url]www.Berlinintim.de[/url]) was announcements from an establishment called Mr. Jones. It is far away from the center, but they show very interesting pictures of very beautyful girls. Of course, this may be fakes. Has somebody been there allready?. Have a good time.

SC[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.mrsjones-berlin.de/[/url]

First, I have never been to this place so all my info comes from reading the German boards.

This place opened up sometime last summer. When they opened the prices were on the high side (comparable to KD & VK) but then they dropped as the market would not support the price tag. Now the prices are in line with Liberty though still a little high for the half hour session.

As you mention, the location is a little out of the way requiring a fairly lengthy trip on the UBahn & bus. It is maybe 1-1.25 hours from the center of Berlin depending on how you make your connections.

Reports on the place seem to be mixed. I have read a number of not very good reviews and a couple of good ones. My observation is that the line up fluctuates. That is the girls do not seem to stay long. This indicates that there are problems with the place. One of the things I look for, trying to judge a bordello from the web site, is that the girls stick around. Happy girls, who are making money, do tend to give better sessions.

Hope this helps.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]For those who are interested, Klein Zierlich is back on line and back from "urlaub" with a few new girls. Well, in truth two are from the old Hautnah agency, Miky & Claudia.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/index.html[/url]

Both these girls have had good reports in the past on the forum when they were with Hautnah. But be warned, the pics, at least of Miky, are from a couple of years back. And both girls have been coming to Berlin to work escort for several years now. So they are not young sweet fresh teenys as is suggested in the ad. But then if past performance is to be trusted, they were both good providers.

AM[/QUOTE]As you may recall, I 'did the tour' of the 2009 klein-zierlich contingent and posted my findings here.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=951846&postcount=1851[/url]

The girls were Ramona, Madeleine and Georgina at the time. I had a somewhat mixed experience. I would be interested to hear if anybody has tried out the 3 new girls (Micky, Simona, Claudia) and to know whether they can be recommended. If they had received a good rating from one of our guys here then I'd be happy to give them another try, but in the absence of a positive recommendation from someone else I'd be disinclined to experiment further with this agency.

Plz let us know, for good or for bad, if any of you decide to sample from the 2010 line-up

Thanks,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Hektor,

Thanks for the report on higher end agencies in Berlin. Always good to know this stuff even if I myself will never use the info-or should I say it is unlikely....if you want some more info on the girl I am speaking of you can pm me. I do not want to share the info in the open forum as I know the girl and like her. I will not blow her cover here. But for an obviously experienced & sophisticated monger such as yourself, one who has made a good contribution to the forum, I will share the info.

AM[/QUOTE]

Hi Angus, thanks for the offer.

I remember when I first started reading this forum you were saying that you didn't want to try Artemis because you might become hooked. ;-) But now you seem to be a big fan. I stopped going there because I realized that entrance + taxi + girl fee = 160€ minimum for 30 minutes. And that I could relax at home and get a VIP escort for a few euros more. So I'm convinced you will be converted here too. Anyway, for somebody who seems to be pretty dedicated in this area, it's definitely worth trying once.

Hi all!

Just a few words from my recent experiences in Berlin. In general my punting-scores was quite good, but not spectacular, this time around. Unfortunately a couple of the women on my "to do"-list were nowhere to be seen. But hey, that is of course a reason to check out some of the line-ups in the different houses.

First – Cat at Kamilla Dee's ([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com[/url]). I have not been too lucky with the line-ups at Kamilla's the last few times, with relatively few interesting women. But even in a short line-up there can be a few gems! And that was the case this afternoon, as Cat turned out to be a very nice encounter. A really beautiful girl, with a wonderful cuteness about her. I guess a "girl-next-door"-description is correct, in case your next door neighbor is hot/sweet! Cat was friendly, chatty, interesting and gave a great body-massage. The rest of the action was top-notch also, especially considering Kamilla Dee's policy of no OWO. All in all a great afternoon! And the general feeling of this venerable house always makes me feel relaxed.

Second – Jette at Royal ([url]http://www.royalgirl.de[/url]). A surprisingly short line-up this day, but I think this was because it was busy as I heard several "noises" from the rooms around ours Luckily Jette was one of the ladies I was introduced to, and as I was in the mood for boobs the choice was easy. Jette is a beautiful young girl, with a great body. And BIG, beautiful naturals She was sweet, friendly and positive. Maybe the only real "problem" was that she spoke only german. And quickly. I had to ask her to repeat words, and talk slowly, a few times, but after all: this is not a big problem. Action-wise? Well, at first she was maybe a bit too interested in changing positions after just a short while in each, but we got into a nice rhythm soon enough, and after that I had a really nice time with her.

Third – Anais at Kamilla's. Ok, back in Blissestrasse, after the success with Cat two days earlier. Today's line-up was again a bit thin, and none of the women really hit the spot visually. It was a cold day, so instead of walking out I decided to try to go against my instincts and went with Anais. She looks really good, even if she is not my "normal" kind of girl. Her mood was good, even if she was maybe a bit "hyper" for my taste (I'm too old I guess). Talking, teasing, laughing she joked about how she must have had something weird for breakfast, as she was normally not so hyper on a normal day. And I believe that But don't get me wrong: she did not do or say anything wrong, we were just on very different energy levels that day so there was no real chemistry between us. She gave a good massage, and her covered O was really good. All in all it was a sub-par session, but it might have been better if I had had the same energy as her

Fourth – Yoko at Royal. Hmm it seems I only visited two of my "normal" joints this time Well, again the line-up was short but there were two or three really hot blonde chicks. But I was in the mood for asian this time, and luckily Yoko was there. I can get weak in the knees when I see a hot girl with long black hair, and this was the case this day. She's got a great body, with nice (fixed) ta-tas. Her performance was also top-notch, with a good OWO-session to kick things off, and a really energetic mix of positions after that. Yoko was always friendly and positive, maybe a bit "over-friendly" at times, but that is a lot better than under-friendly!

Ok, that was Berlin for this winter. I was a bit disappointed about the disappearance of a couple of my objects of desire, but I guess that is a risk of this hobby. Sometimes the girls find better things to do, than me I have not given up hope though, the homepages of several of the Berlin-houses are under my surveillance, and I will be back one day!

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[QUOTE=Ravein2]Second – Jette at Royal ([url]http://www.royalgirl.de[/url]). A surprisingly short line-up this day, but I think this was because it was busy as I heard several "noises" from the rooms around ours Luckily Jette was one of the ladies I was introduced to, and as I was in the mood for boobs the choice was easy. Jette is a beautiful young girl, with a great body. And BIG, beautiful naturals She was sweet, friendly and positive. Maybe the only real "problem" was that she spoke only german. And quickly. I had to ask her to repeat words, and talk slowly, a few times, but after all: this is not a big problem. Action-wise? Well, at first she was maybe a bit too interested in changing positions after just a short while in each, but we got into a nice rhythm soon enough, and after that I had a really nice time with her.[/QUOTE]Many thx for the terrific report.

I am always 'in the mood for boobs', and from her pics this girl certainly seems to be particularly gifted in that department. I'd quite like to check her out; a couple of questions if I may?:-

1) Did she administer OWO?

2) Did she allude to 'special finishes' such as CIF or COB?

Thanks,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Many thx for the terrific report.

I am always 'in the mood for boobs', and from her pics this girl certainly seems to be particularly gifted in that department. I'd quite like to check her out; a couple of questions if I may?:-

1) Did she administer OWO?

2) Did she allude to 'special finishes' such as CIF or COB?

Thanks,

Charlie[/QUOTE]Hi Charlie,

1) Yes (an extra)

2) It was not an issue, so I can't say if it is possible

Hi,

Some help please?

I'm off to berlin this week, staying in Berlin=Prenzlauer Berg and would like some fun.

Are there any recommended places (not too pricey). Oral and anal would be good too! Not been to any brothels before, so somewhere which would welcome a newbie?!

Many thanks in advance, any help gratefully appreciated!

Matt

Here is my first report.

I sent an email Sunday to book Kelly at 10 am on Friday, I got a response that it was okay and she would be there. I go on thinking all is as it should. Then comes Thursday night I check their homepage and all of a sudden she is no longer working on Friday. I check my email nothing from them about my appointment being cancelled.

I fly in and everything goes so smoothly so I'm there an hour ahead of my appointment. I walk around the area a little there are two hotels across the road.

When it's time I ring the bell and gets let in, after introduction I ask for Kelly And are told she is not working today and there are nothing about my appointment. I'm really disappointed, then the lady say there are only one girl working at this time. Anja comes in an introduce herself. I'm horny and ready to go so I agree to see her. In my mind I had decided on a one hour session so I stick to that.

The price I'm quoted are 120€.

We walk up the stairs and I take a shower. Then we lay on the bed with some neck kissing and nipple sucking, then she goes down on me and gives a short CBJ, then she climb on top of me and start riding, that's when the bed squeaks like crazy. After a few minutes we switch rooms. She gives a quick blow then climbs on again, and then I finish in doggy, I had it built up plus I tend to be quick on the first pop.

We talk a little then she gives me a soft none descript massage.

Time for round two, we start off with missionary then some riding and then back to doggy and I come again.

We chat a little then I want to go on the third round and she tells me only two pops in an hour session.

For Anja the plus for me was her breast that I thought was a nice handful. But she was a little over acting on her moans for my liking.

For Mrs Jones I've nothing positive to say, even less after coming home and checking their webpage and finding out that a one hour session with Anja cost 100€. As for the girls being there a short time, one reason could be that they live ells where and just come in and work for a week or two then go back home.

In conclusion for me, just stay away from this place.

Kriss

[QUOTE=Matt Andrews]Some help please?[/QUOTE]

Can I suggest you read the thread? including my Berlin Bordello guide.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936[/url]

And if you have any further, more specific, questions feel free to ask.

AM

[QUOTE=Kristoffer]Here is my first report.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report on Mrs. Jones. Your experience pretty much mirrors most of those which I have read on the German forums. I have the impression that this place is badly managed and so experiences can be good or bad, but mostly bad.

So thanks for taking one for the team. We all do that from time to time.

AM

My eventual trip to Berlin was cut short for various reasons. SO only had time to try one place. Hence decided to go to liberty. Arrived at around 11Am. The line up was impressive of about 8 girls for every taste. Could recognize several names from the forum, angelina, romy etc.

I wanted AV and FT but the house lady did not speak english , so she sent Cleo. Cleo told me that only her and Angelina were into it, but Angelina was busy (although she had just paraded in front of me).

Cleo seemed nice, not the hottest, but this was my only shot so took her. At the end I liked her quite a bit. She speaks good english and is easy to talk to. Biggest positive was that she was light on makeup and perfume, which is a big plus for me.

She provided good and unrushed service. Nice AV and finished with Ft for a total of 130. As mentioned she is not the best looker or the best body at liberty, but made my time in Berlin worthwhile.

Thanks to Angus and others for providing great info on the forum.

Lucknow
AV and FT stand for what?
BSK

[QUOTE=Lucknow]My eventual trip to Berlin was cut short for various reasons. SO only had time to try one place. Hence decided to go to liberty. Arrived at around 11Am. The line up was impressive of about 8 girls for every taste. Could recognize several names from the forum, angelina, romy etc.

I wanted AV and FT but the house lady did not speak english , so she sent Cleo. Cleo told me that only her and Angelina were into it, but Angelina was busy (although she had just paraded in front of me).

Cleo seemed nice, not the hottest, but this was my only shot so took her. At the end I liked her quite a bit. She speaks good english and is easy to talk to. Biggest positive was that she was light on makeup and perfume, which is a big plus for me.

She provided good and unrushed service. Nice AV and finished with Ft for a total of 130. As mentioned she is not the best looker or the best body at liberty, but made my time in Berlin worthwhile.

Thanks to Angus and others for providing great info on the forum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk]Lucknow
AV and FT stand for what?
BSK[/QUOTE]


AV = Analverker, Anal Sex
FT = Französisch Total, bbbjcim

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]As you may recall, I 'did the tour' of the 2009 klein-zierlich contingent and posted my findings here. The girls were Ramona, Madeleine and Georgina at the time. I had a somewhat mixed experience.

Thanks, Charlie[/QUOTE]

Charlie, I had sessions w/ both Simona and Madelaine

***Madelaine: afaik Hungarian, 21 yrs, a bit more suave manners, better technique, overall a bit more pleasant to be with. Things she says does not do: smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, use nail polish...

***Simona: afaik Romanian, 19 yrs, she feels a bit rougher and more unpolished, overall the wilder girl. Things she does: smoke cigarettes...

Both are really 'klein und zierlich' (i.e. petite). Madelaine has slightly bigger breasts. Both have extensions. Both have a teen feel about them.

I like both of them, and more so than my last session with Miki two or so yrs ago. If I had to chose, I'd go for Madelaine. I will try to write a longer report soon.

I just came back from 5 fantastic days in Germany. I would like to thank all the people who posted information I used to decide where to go and what to do in Berlin and Frankfurt. I will post my experiences for the first 3 days here in the Berlin section. I will post the last 2 days in Frankfurt in the Frankfurt. When both are posted I will add email links between them.

Mass Monger

Berlin 1st Day

I arrived late in the day and had time only for one venue. I decided on King George FlatRate [url]http://www.Bordell-grunewaldstrasse23. De/[/url]. Unfortunately I missed happy hour by ½ hour and had to pay 99 Euros entrance fee instead of the happy hour price of 79 Euros. This was still not bad since it included unlimited drinks and sex. There were 6 – 7 nice looking girls available and I was the only customer there. Later another customer was there. Evidently there was an important soccer game that evening so few people came. This was all the better for me.

1st girl I went with was short and a little thick in the middle with small breasts. She was very warm and friendly. She danced in front of me and made eye contact until I had to respond with conversation. She invited me to go to the back rooms with her. CBJ was done (that is all they do here, no BBBJ). She had a very warm juicy P sy, and was quite friendly. We made nice sex together.

I sat a while watching the girls dance and practice various dancing positions/moves. After a while Nikki from Rumania came up to me. She was very warm and friendly and we talked for quite a while and caressed shoulders, bodies, etc. Lightly. Finally I mentioned the room (Zimmer) and she went willingly. She was short, slim and had small but very nice boobs. We caressed and took our time. Very nice experience. She was very friendly. It was a GFE, although it was not an intense one. I definitely recommend Nikki.

After a very long time I moved from the dance area to the bar and started talking (in Spanish) to a girl from Spain. She was short, slim and very pretty with very nice boobs. She caressed me and was very friendly and we had a very nice conversation. Finally I suggested the Zimmer and she said yes, but why not with her and her friend who was coming back soon. I agreed. We continued to talk for a while. Her friend was Claudia from Austria. I had been eyeing her earlier and was very happy to go to the room with both of them. Claudia was pretty, fairly tall and slim with very nice, but small-medium breasts and long blond hair, very attractive and sexy. All 3 of us went to a room. We stripped down and played with each other for a while – no rush. Finally Claudia initiated a CBJ and I spent some time kissing and fondling the girl from Spain. Then they switched after changing the condom. Claudia and I kissed while the Spanish girl gave me a CBJ. Then Claudia moved down, upside down to me and (I think) stroked my organ while I did DATY on her, and the Spanish girl continued the CBJ. To be honest, I forgot the sequence and who exactly, did what to whom, but it was GREAT! Claudia pushed her pussy down in my face while the Spanish girl did a CBJ. She and I both greatly enjoyed the DATA. It was all very nice, but overwhelming. Then I fucked and kissed Claudia for a long time and we had a great time. She was in no hurry to leave and we stayed together for a long time.

Finally it was time to leave King George – My strength was exhausted. The best girls were Nikki and Claudia. I think of those two, Claudia was the best. She was probably 8 in looks and a 7-8 in performance (primarily because of the lack of a BBBJ). Otherwise it would have been a 9. King George was fantastic. (see 3ed day in Berlin for more on King George).

Berlin 2nd Day

I took the S-Bahn and went to FKK Artemis [url]http://www.Fkk-artemis. De/[/url] at night – arrived about 7 PM. The directions are given in many other posts.

It is a very large place with many women – upwards of 50 and also a lot of men. Probably since it was Saturday night. Most of them were very pretty and sexy. They all were cute and had great bodies. I observed that there were a lot of small-medium breasted girls and not an excess of surgically enhanced breasts, perhaps less than 25% were obviously enhanced. That was just fine with me. I would rather have small-medium real boobs that large hard silicone implants. After sitting for 3 minutes at the bar I was approached by Naomi from Jamaica, a tall very black girl. She stroked me and I could not resist. It was ok but nothing special. In fact, she slyly gave me a CBJ instead of the standard BBBJ. She should be avoided.

I came back to the bar/kino and general area. An outstandingly beautiful blond German girl sat down by me and we started to talk. She was so pretty that I immediately was on guard because very pretty girls often rush you and are not very friendly once you choose them. However, after a long conversation I concluded that she (Heidi from Dusseldorf) was probably for-real. I said that I liked kissing, she said that she did too and gave me a nice French kiss. One possible problem with our hooking-up I said, was that I liked "lecken" (DATY). She said that she did too. At that point, I was completely hooked. We went to a room, stripped and caressed and kissed, DFKs. She did a BBBJ for a very long time. I then did DATY also for a long time. She was very, very responsive to it. She then gave me another long BBBJ. Finally she mounted on top and we had fantastic sex for at least 10 minutes in that position. She could not stop and am positive that she had two or three orgasms. (I love it when that happens.) I then finished with missionary position. We stayed there for a long time just caressing each other with DFK frequently. This was GFE+. In looks she was a 10 and in performance she was a 10+. I don't like to give perfect scores, but she deserved every point. One problem for Mongers however, is that she will leave Artemis in two days (has left at the time of this post-early May 2010) for the Palace in Frankfurt, her usual FKK. By all means, look for her there.

After a while I went with Bianca from Moldavia. DFK and DATY and a very friendly disposition. I specified both in advance, and specified ½ hour, and she was in agreement. Sometimes girls will try to upgrade you to an hour for both of these, but you should just say no, ½ hour is all you can do. I never had a problem when I said that.

My final girl was Lucy, a Czech with very nice the boobs. Natural the boobs almost always sag a little. Artificial the boobs stick out straight. Her's were natural and she was also very pretty and sexy. Again I had no problem when I asked for kissing and DATY – instant agreement with no up-sell. I think that asking for both kissing and DATA is a good thing to do, even if you do not follow through with the DATY. It separates out the unfriendly girls from the friendly girls. This is just a thought, however. Do others agree or disagree?

Berlin 3ed Day

Liberty: [url]http://www.Libertyberlin. De/index_2.html[/url] I heard good reports so I decided to go here at about noon. From a very nice line-up of 6 girls I chose Lucia from Valencia. –A young petite beautiful girl from Valencia Spain with almost perfect B-C breasts. But not only was she pretty, a solid 9 in looks, she was extremely friendly. After selecting her from the line-up of about 6 very nice girls I paid in advance 60 Euros for 30 minutes (it costs 40 Euros for 20 minutes). She greeted me in the room with the coffee that I ordered. She then gave me a warm deep French kiss and we rubbed bodies and caressed. We talked for a while and then stripped down. After leisurely caressing on the bed she asked if I wanted a CBJ or a BBBJ. I asked for the second which she performed admirably. I then proceeded with a leisurely DATY and she responded well but did not have an orgasm. She then mounted me and we fucked for 10 to 15 minutes. She came multiple times and would not stop humping me. I loved it and so did she. I really like it that way, obviously. Obviously her performance was also a solid 9, if not a 10. I highly, highly recommend her if she is still there.

Kino 26: [url]http://www.Erotikkino26. De/home.html[/url] Dominicusstr 26. I decided to experiment with Berlin Kinos. They sounded kinky. I paid 5 Euros for the entrance and passed by 2 attractive but older, highly made-up Thai women maybe 35 years old but with nice figures. I was alone in a very small theater and one of the women named "En" (or Ann) asked me for my drink preference. She came back with the coke I ordered and sat by me, gently caressing my leg. She asked me if I wanted her company and quoted me a price of 30 Euros for oral in the theater and 60 Euros for sex in the adjacent room. I said that that was very expensive and proceeded to view the erotic scene for a while. She had a very nice body and in the dim light was very attractive/sexy. She then said 30 Euros for sex in the room. I said "without clothes" and she agreed. We then proceeded to the room, I paid her the money and she returned later. I had a very nice CBJ and decent F, k in two positions. I then got dressed and left. It was quite acceptable – not the kind of fantastic GFE experience I had just had with Lucia, but nice in a kinky kind of way.

I then turned the corner back to the U-Bahn stop and stopped in Paola's Sexkino [url]http://paolas-sexkino. De/home.html[/url] which was near-by. In the theater I saw a very unattractive 45 year old Caucasian woman, but was greeted by a short, overweight Thai girl who brought me my drink and sat down by me. She caressed my leg and higher and asked if I wanted to have a BJ in the theater or sex in the room. I declined both and continued to watch the movie. After a while she gave-up and left. She was immediately replaced with a very pretty Thai girl in her twenties or early thirties named Gesha and after quick request from her and a quoted price of 30 Euros we went to a small, fairly clean, dark room and had a nice CBJ and a F k. I could not come again but faked it reasonably well. This was not wonderful sex but a very kinky encounter and this time the girl was quite young and pretty. The sex was mechanical as it was earlier in Kino 26 but thoroughly enjoyable.

In spite of the warning about the women in the Herz brothel being typical German Hausfraus, I decided to there because I was in Germany and it would be appropriate to fuck a German Hausfrau. It is a long, long walk from a U-Bahn station at the end of the line (Alte Mariendorf). I was given a line-up of three women. They were pretty bad except for a fairly attractive 35-40 year old that was slightly overweight, had a pleasant smile and had giant natural the boobs. She was a perfect example of what I wanted at that moment and just what I was looking-for. I selected her, but she came back and asked if I had made an appointment for her, which I had not. She said that she had an appointment in 15 minutes and thus could not service me. The others were so bad that I left and took a long walk back to the U-Bahn and went to King Georges (for the second time – see a previous post). I do not recommend Harz both for access and for the staff. If you want a Hausfrau, chose a closer venue.

I got to King Georges FlatRate in time for the 4 – 6 PM happy hour admission of 79 Euros and all you can drink and as many times as you want to go with the girls. I saw basically the same group of girls that I had seen two days before, except that one of my favorites, Claudia from Austria, was not there. There were 5 girls and me, and they were spending a lot of time with each other dancing on the stage and practicing new moves. Another one of my favorites from my previous visit, Nikki came up to me and we talked and caressed a while. I asked her about protocol since none of the other girls had approached me when I was there two days ago. She said that they all go to the rooms but generally need to be asked. They are available but will not usually approach you. The first one I asked was Alicia from Malaga, Spain. She was very young and I had only talked to her for a minute before I asked about going back to the rooms. She quickly agreed and we had a reasonable but fairly mechanical session CBJ and FK. The problem may have been that I had not chatted her up and we did not know each other before I requested the room. I then sat at the bar with the six girls nearby and Nikki asked if I wanted to dance. I did and we danced a great polka in front of the other girls. She said that polkas are popular in Rumania too, not just Poland. I also felt that by dancing, which was fun, I had sort of made friends with the other girls and appeared as a real and friendly person.

I tried to talk to another girl Sofia, from Rumania but she knew no German, English or Spanish. She was very attractive and she agreed to go the room. Obviously I could not "chat her up". We had a very nice, but silent time in the room including CBJ, DATY and 2 position FK. Back at the bar and the dancing area I had another beer. Nikki came over and stood by me. I proceeded to caress her shoulders, back and arms. She was very warm and friendly and I had a great time giving her a massage for 15 minutes or more. It was fun being friendly with her and her being so warm and responsive. She then danced on the stage, and I went to the room with Karina from Greece. Karina is very young and tall and animated and playful with all the other girls. We had a very good FK but no touching or licking down below. She did not want missionary position. She mounted me and we had a great session and I had a fantastic orgasm about 10 minutes after she mounted me. We cleaned up and left. Nikki was coming to the rooms as I was leaving. By this time I was too exhausted from encounters with six girls that day and I left and did not stay around for a seventh one with Nikki – perhaps it was a mistake, but who knows. I had had enough fun for one day.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Note that I have answered you here on the Berlin thread. You posted in the RoD thread which is reserved for note worthy reports of distinction.

Mostly I suggest you read the thread. All your questions are answered in the thread.

You might also check the Artemis thread. There was recently a discussion about hotels over there.

You might like to look here at my Berlin Brothel Guide.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936[/url]

[QUOTE=Eric Praline]Prices. In Brothels seems to vary widely about 50Euro for 30 mins sound right?[/QUOTE]

50 euros is on the low end of the scale.

[QUOTE=Eric Praline]How about the prices in FKK clubs?[/QUOTE]

Well there is but one FKK in Berlin-Artemis. Prices are 80-entrance, 60 euros for the half hour, cim-50, anal, 100. Not cheap.

[QUOTE=Eric Praline]I speak no German. Problem?[/QUOTE]

Having no German can be a problem if you make it one. Otherwise it is an adventure. Certainly not everyone you run across in the Berlin bordello scene speaks English. But with a bit of creativity you can get by. I suggest that you at least learn the numbers and bring some paper & a pen. It helps when discussing prices.

[QUOTE=Eric Praline]Any advise / experiences most welcome.[/QUOTE]

Again-read the thread. I and others spend a great deal of time & effort writing there.

And let us just assume that you yourself will contribute as a way of paying back for the info you read here.

Have fun.

AM

[QUOTE=Mass Monger]I just came back from 5 fantastic days in Germany. I would like to thank all the people who posted information I used to decide where to go and what to do in Berlin and Frankfurt. I will post my experiences for the first 3 days here in the Berlin section. I will post the last 2 days in Frankfurt in the Frankfurt. When both are posted I will add email links between them.[/QUOTE]

Great informative report MM!! I will post it to the RoD thread in a bit as it most certainly deserves to be enshrined there.

Too bad you did not read the Artemis thread before your trip to that establishment. You would certainly have been warned off Naomi before hand if you had. She is an example of the worst on offer at Artemis.

Thanks for taking the time to report.

AM

Hi MM,

A quick question-you did not mention in your report about the two visits to King George if you were asked at any time to buy the girls drinks. I am wondering if this was never asked of you of if you simply did not include it in your report. One of the issues that tends to dissuade me from the flat rate type of club is this issue of being pestered to buy drinks for the girls. I do not mind buying drinks if it is my idea to do so. But being pressured into it...

Thanks. The King George does sound worth a visit from your description. Especially as I am at the moment a budget minded monger.

AM

There is a lovely looking redhead named Jenny at this bordel; anyone try this place?

[QUOTE=Drew 0303]There is a lovely looking redhead named Jenny at this bordel; anyone try this place?[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I have visited Celine 69. It is a small bordello but clean & well run. It is also on the inexpensive side-50 euros/half hour+extras. While I have no personal experience with Jenny I can say that she gets good reports on the German forums. It is said that she is an attractive, friendly and enthusiastic provider.

Please do write a report if you see her.

AM

Next week I'll be in Berlin and found a girl on the web called Dione. The references on google indicate a real girlfriend experience. Does anyone has experience with this girl. The URL is [url]www.berlin-escort-dione.com[/url].

[QUOTE=Drew 0303]There is a lovely looking redhead named Jenny at this bordel; anyone try this place?[/QUOTE]I have been here several times. I have seen a girl called Sina a few times with outstanding results. I have recommended here before on these pages. I also sessioned once with a Polish MILF whose name escapes me, and generally I liked this bordelle and would be happy to recommend it.

Good luck.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Andromach]Next week I'll be in Berlin and found a girl on the web called Dione. The references on google indicate a real girlfriend experience. Does anyone has experience with this girl. The URL is [url]www.berlin-escort-dione.com[/url].[/QUOTE]

Never had personal experience but from the pics I recognize where she also works or used to work: At an Escort Service called Girl Visit.

[url]http://www.girlsvisit.de/modelle.html[/url]

She is either the same as ANGEL or one of the CLAUDIAS. Girl Visit looks well run but I have no idea about their actual ratings. Funny thing is, you can have a girl for 100 Euro per hour, while DIONE is charging 250 for the first hour.

Cheers,
The AF

P.S.: Anyone knows/tried SIEBEL at MAC??
[url]http://www.erotische-modelle.de/siebel.html[/url]
Looks like a very hot piece of ass...

[QUOTE=The AF]Never had personal experience but from the pics I recognize where she also works or used to work: At an Escort Service called Girl Visit.

[url]http://www.girlsvisit.de/modelle.html[/url]

She is either the same as ANGEL or one of the CLAUDIAS. Girl Visit looks well run but I have no idea about their actual ratings. Funny thing is, you can have a girl for 100 Euro per hour, while DIONE is charging 250 for the first hour.

Cheers,
The AF

P.S.: Anyone knows/tried SIEBEL at MAC??
[url]http://www.erotische-modelle.de/siebel.html[/url]
Looks like a very hot piece of ass...[/QUOTE]Hi,

Thanks for the link to this agency. However I don't see the similarity directly with the blondines from this agency. Regarding Dione I thought it was 250 for 2 hours. But I presume you cannot help me whether she is any good. Do you know more about the girlsvisit agency?

Recently Mass Monger visited the King George twice, reporting below his findings. The following is a short TV piece (in German) about the place. Funny to note the father and son visiting together. The family the mongers together...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk8Pvr9cHw4&feature=PlayList&p=B68A1BC3F12FC30F&index=0&playnext=1[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h20XXUF1Oag&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hOSHC1FiM&feature=related[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Recently Mass Monger visited the King George twice, reporting below his findings. The following is a short TV piece (in German) about the place. Funny to note the father and son visiting together. The family the mongers together...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk8Pvr9cHw4&feature=PlayList&p=B68A1BC3F12FC30F&index=0&playnext=1[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h20XXUF1Oag&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hOSHC1FiM&feature=related[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Gotta love the german mentality and openess. It's all about family activities. Too bad they dont have BBBJ with the entry price, otherwise it looks okay to me. I'm predicting a next report on this club from Angus :)

[QUOTE=Andromach]Hi,

Thanks for the link to this agency. However I don't see the similarity directly with the blondines from this agency. Regarding Dione I thought it was 250 for 2 hours. But I presume you cannot help me whether she is any good. Do you know more about the girlsvisit agency?[/QUOTE]


Well if you have read my ramblings here over the past few years you will know that my opinion of the Berlin escort scene is quite low. As I see it your choice ranges from paying more and being reasonably certain (but certainly not 100%) of a decent session, or paying less where it is a real crap shoot. That is you never know who will show up a the door and what her attitude will be.

This sector of the P4P market is just not very well serviced as I think there is little incentive to give good service. The punters keep on coming regardless of what they do.

As to the link you give & the girlvisit link-I have no info either from personal experience or from the German forums. But I do have pretty good intuition and this says-stay away. Neither one gives me a good feeling. But then this is just my intuition so take it as that and follow your own in this case.

As for escorts in Berlin-There are a few suggestions (& personal recommendations) in the thread if you care to read back a few pages. And I can also say that this lady, Rita, is getting some pretty good press on the German forums. It seems she is an indy who used to, a number of years back, work for the old Hautnah agency.

[url]http://www.sexyrita.de/[/url]

The only trouble being that she is popular and apparently a bit difficult to book. That is you have to call early to get her.

AM

[QUOTE=Tuxsmasher] I'm predicting a next report on this club from Angus :)[/QUOTE]


You may very well be right on the money here Tux. As I think I have mentioned I live right around the block from King George (about a 3-5 minute walk away) and may just have to check it out soon:)

AM

[QUOTE=Andromach]Next week I'll be in Berlin and found a girl on the web called Dione. The references on google indicate a real girlfriend experience. Does anyone has experience with this girl. The URL is [url]www.berlin-escort-dione.com[/url].[/QUOTE]

Andromach-I have a question for you. Why is it that on 15/03/10 you come on to ISG and ask if anyone here has had an experience with Dione. On the same day on poppenreport you post a short review of the same girl saying that you saw her a week back?

I suspect this as a thinly veiled attempt to give this girl some press here on ISG. I also suspect that you are either Dione herself or someone closely connected to her.

And I therefore repeat my opinion from my below post-I would not have anything to do with this escort.

AM

Preamble

I was in Berlin for a couple of days for Business in March 2010 and decided that I would use the opportunity to take advantage of the friendly environment for the Hobby!

Research on the board and my own preferences had let me to the conclusion that I would have to try out the King George Flatrate Club (For adventure and breaking new ground) and Artemis (to have a sure succes.)

King George

Arrival

Arriving at King George is as easy as anything in Berlin using the extensive metro system. Leaving my hotel, switching only 1 time left me at Eisenacher Strasse you bahn Station. Now according to google maps I would be right atop the club. However as with the Fox' holes, Berlins U-Bahn stations have many exits and I had to walk for at least 2 minutes to get to the club!

The club is easily recognizable from the outside as they make no attempt at hiding what they are.

I rang the dorbell. And except from the bouncer allmost knocking me over, I was let in with no problem.

Once inside the Bouncer explained the concept and took my money and my jacket. In return I got a access and 3 "King George Dollars" with the message that I could buy more for 1€ a piece.

Now, I had seen this on some of their youtube videos (Linked by Angus below) and I was a little uncertain as to if this was part of some sort of scam. As it turns out Nobody used the dollarbills and the girls did not seem to have any interest in them. I put them in my pocket and they stayed there till I was back at my hotel where I left them for the maid.

Layout

Entering the club I saw a small bar area, to the left of that two slot machines, straight ahead the "stage" complete with pole and a small lounging area (four small corner sofas) with a view of the stage. Continuing from there, there is another bar area (not used for anything but the girls eating when I was there) passing this you get to the toilets and on to "the rooms". The layout of the place is quite narrow but works allright.

As I entered I noticed 5-6 girls and 2-3 other men. As the night went on I think I counted at the highest 8 girls and 5 men. I commented on this to one of the girls and she said that the girls were there but the customers not. I conluded that this is the amount of girls available on any given night (Actually a lot better than what I had expected!).

Most of the girls there were recognizable from their website (and previous reports) although there were a few I couldn't quite place. Also most girls are Romanian with a few exceptions.

Procedure

I got seated at the bar and "Katia" (Blond girl dancing on the website) served me a coffee. I watched the girls dance and talk and soon a nice girl (Paola, ½ Romanian, ½ Turkish) came over to "say Hi". After exchanging pleasantries for a short while we proceeded to the room for CBJ and FS. As it was my first of the night it was quickly over, but it did give an idea of how things works.

I was allowed to take a shower (available I all rooms) before we started and there was no attempt at upselling any extras. Actually I never really got around to ask if they offer any.

Back to the main room (the girls shower after, some of them follow you out, others accept if you leave before they are done.).

I was there for a total of 4 hours from 6 pm to 10 pm and I went with 4 girls. Procedure was basically the same each time. I would get them over using the FKK smile and nod, chat for a litlle while then to the room for CBJ and FS.

The Talent

Basically the girls are dancing or sitting chatting to the guests. If you indicate interest they will come talk to you and some will suggest the room others will wait for you to suggest. There were absolutely no attempts at getting me to buy champagne or ladies drinks even though champagne was available (I did see one guy get a girls champagne but he went straight for the bar and got it, so I assume he "knew" her).

Only one girl was pushing for the room, a small overweight Afgan woman wearing white lingerie. As there were more talent available than one could sample in one night a had to turn her away a couple of times.

Some of the girls seemed to really enjoy themselves dancing around playing/teasing each other. Other seemed to be there more as part of a job.

I did notice one thing though: Klaudia the blond "Austrian" previously reported on, did not mingle with the other girls but kept to either the Bouncer or customers. During the 4 hours I spent in KG I only saw her speak to one of the other girls one time. She also tended to stay for a long time in the room with the guests. I did not myself sample her, but maybe it could have been wothwhile.

The Action

1) Paola, ½ Romanian, ½ Turkish. Tall, Mature, larger, sagging breasts. Not skinny but not fat either. Friendly and nice, speaks English and Spanish. Good performance in the room. Recommendable.

2) Sophia, Romanian. Very quiet, No German, no English, no Spanish, hard to communicate with. Asked not to do from behind. Gives, as the only one the impression that this is a job she is not totally happy with. While in the room we could hear somebody really going at it! This turned out to be:

3) Katia, ½ Romanian, ½ Russian, 22. Blond largish breasts. Very playfull and lively girl, dances a lot on the stage. Delivers equally in the room. Katia delivered the best performance in the room. Recommendable.

4) Alexia, Spanish (claims Malaga). Very nice looking petite girl. Nice breasts with perky nipples. Will be in KG till the end of March. Delivered good performance and has a killer body. Recommendable.

Notes and thoughts:

Overall KG was a good experience. And definetely a lot better than expected! No hustle, no upselling and the general attitude of the girls were quite good. If one is in the mood for hanging out talkning to the girls this is possible. Performance in the room is average to good but not mindblowing. Choosing should be done with care using the same telltales as always: If she is happy and playfull in the bar. Go for it, if not try for something else.

That being said, with the price structure you can surelly afford a miss as it is not your wallet that will be the limiting factor.

Compared to Artemis, KG is a very different experience. The atmosphere is more of a "real bar", less relaxed and there is a very big difference in the talent. I would recommend both but prefer Artemis anytime. Not least for the more skilled SPs (and the tons of naked girls). However if you are looking for a lowbudget alternative to the many €'s an Artemis trip would cost you, KG is recommended!

A final thought: During my time there I observed maybe a total of 8 guys, each leaving 100€. The girls leave a mark on a sheet in the bar when they go to the room so it is reasonable to assume that they get paid for each trip in there. This makes sense from an incentive point of view as well. My point is that I have a hard time seeing this concept as being viable with such a low turnover. There is the owner, a barmaid, a bouncer, rent, drinks, electricity etc. To pay beside the girls. I simply cannot get the math to fit together.

Even if I was not there on a typical night you will need a lot of turnover to keep such a place alive!

Following day was Artemis-time. This will be reported on the Artemis thread.

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Hi

I a getting a bit fed-up with Artemis. The line-up needs refreshment. 'Too much of a good thing' perhaps. Ayway, I am back in Berlin next week and plan to re-visit some of the bordelles that I abandoned when I became an Artemis junkie last year.

Does anybody happen to know this girl:

[url]http://www.top-prestige.de/vanessa.htm[/url]

I am also intrigued by the following self-proclaimed 'hobbyfick':.

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Eveline-15375.html[/url]

Any info would be appreciated

Thanks

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Hi

I a getting a bit fed-up with Artemis. The line-up needs refreshment. 'Too much of a good thing' perhaps. Ayway, I am back in Berlin next week and plan to re-visit some of the bordelles that I abandoned when I became an Artemis junkie last year.

Does anybody happen to know this girl:

[url]http://www.top-prestige.de/vanessa.htm[/url]
Charlie[/QUOTE]

Yep - works at Prestige & Royal. Met 2X-both very passive, just kind of went through it. Very disappointing. Of course could be me, lack of chemistry etc. Your actual mileage may vary...If you are attracted to the mams-there are IMHO better alternatives, e.g. Natasha at Prestige, Maya at Monrouge, Fionna or Margo, at Kamilla Dee, maybe Marlene at Liberty, and perhaps some of the Herz team. A few lookers also at van Kempen but I´m not wild about the place...good luck and report back to us, bitte.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
....
My other suggestion would to give KD a try. I quick look on their website turns up June.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm[/url]
.......

AM[/QUOTE]
Now, June "only does .... devote numbers".
And Cora too.
So, no "normal" meetings with them will be possible any more.

Previous posts about Mondschien :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=959185&postcount=1871[/url]


New rules :
With an entrance, we may get one free soft drink, the following soft drinks will cost 2 Euros each.

With the 30 Euros entrance : we may stay one hour in the bar and choose one lady ( I don t think that we may keep the lady for the whole hour); if we want a second lady, we should pay 10 Euros more.

With the 50 Euros entrance : no changes, we may spend 3 hours in the bar and "meet" with all the (3) ladies.


By the way, I saw Pam : she s not the lady I met before without asking her name.

I will spend one or two nights in Berlin.

Shared information about KD :

[url]http://www.ignatzmice.com/WWWBoard/PHPBB/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15873&start=0[/url]

[QUOTE=Rtw Monger]I will spend one or two nights in Berlin.[/QUOTE]

As far as I see it strip clubs are not Berlin's strong suit as there are so many places to go where you can do more than just look. That being said you will find a section with bars & clubs on this site.

[url]http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/[/url]


Sorry, I can not tell you which is best.

[QUOTE=Rtw Monger]I will spend one or two nights in Berlin.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Angus, there isn't much in this area in Berlin. But I've heard the best is Rush Hour in West Berlin. It's not so good LOL!

What is the situation with the privats/bordeles (eg Van Kampen, Monrouge, Liberty etc) during easter? Are they closed for the entire long weekend?

[QUOTE=Skagen]What is the situation with the privats/bordeles (eg Van Kampen, Monrouge, Liberty etc) during easter? Are they closed for the entire long weekend?[/QUOTE]

Mon Rouge will probably be closed but VK, KD, Liberty, Royal etc. are usually open most of the holidays. The individual websites will give the hours of operation over the holidays.

AM

Have any of you guys visited the (new?) sauna club 77?

[url]http://www.club77-berlin.com/index.php[/url]

It looks pretty nice to me, but I wonder whether it's worthwile visiting? I just might head back to Berlin this summer and if so I'll perhaps check this club out.

I was staying in a hotel near Oranienburger Strasse last week and was stopped by a few of these ladies. There's no denying some of them are very attractive, but why do they choose to do this when there are other safer, and presumably, more lucrative places to work? I'd just returned from Artemis and I'm sure that most of the girls I saw could have earned a good living there. Are they controlled by someone, or it is some sort of scam? I had no interest, but they were quoting €80 for massage, HJ, BJ and massage.

[QUOTE=Kvaser]Have any of you guys visited the (new?) sauna club 77?

[url]http://www.club77-berlin.com/index.php[/url]

It looks pretty nice to me, but I wonder whether it's worthwile visiting? I just might head back to Berlin this summer and if so I'll perhaps check this club out.[/QUOTE]

Not a new club. Just a new website. I was there about 8 years back and it was spectacularly forgettable. There are much better ways to spend your euros in Berlin IMO.

Hey guys,

Its been almost 12 months since i've been to Liberty so i'm sure the talent has changed.

Can anyone recommend some top performers at Liberty of late?

Thanks,

Ezy

[QUOTE=Ezye101]Hey guys,

Its been almost 12 months since i've been to Liberty so i'm sure the talent has changed.

Can anyone recommend some top performers at Liberty of late?

Thanks,

Ezy[/QUOTE]Hi,

I have not been visiting Liberty with much regularity in the past year. When I do go I always see Romy. She is not 19 (as stated) but I do find her a top performer. She was previously working under the name Anna, also at Liberty. The name change was for personal reasons, not to avoid a bad rep.

AM

How is the current situation in Berlin?

Price range?

I was in Berlin for a few days last week and was out tasting the local "cuisine"

The first day I had planned to check out Club Elfen, the short description and promise of a "seedy" place sounded very attractive to me, so I went there. Unfortunately the fact that I don't speak german very much pretty much prevented any communication from taking place. After talking to Suzy I couldn't talk to anyone else and was pretty much thrown out by the telephonelady. What a bummer

A few days later I ended up on Royal which is a real nice place. I had a very nice session with Riana who was delightfull, cheerfull and very serviceminded. There is no doubt that Royal is a very high class place, girls seems very nice and serviceminded and I felt confident that I would get good service and a nice experience. BUT, I believe the price is very high. The fact that every extra is chargeable made my experience pretty expensive. Not as expensive as home, but pretty much compared to other places in Berlin.

I was warned though from Angus' excellent bordell-list.

I also visited Artemis, which I will be telling about in the Artemis forum.

I enjoy Berlin very much and I hope I'll come back later this year.

Thanks to all in the forum, and specially thanks to Angus for his many reports

Cheers

Hi

After my last visit to Berlin I resolved to avoid Artemis next time and re-visit some of my old haunts such as Monrouge.......

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/adriana.html[/url]

Monrouge is a great place - a reasonably priced and service-orientated bordelle staffed by friendly, sexy (and usually busty) EE girls.

The Madame told me that a number of the girls from the website that interested me were no longer working at Monrouge or were on holiday. She presented me with 4 girls, of whom only Adriana is depicted on their site. I had heard good reports on her in a variety of places, so I went with her. She is prettier than her photos suggest, with flawless white skin and a cute round face. Her service is really good, and whilst there was no special chemistry going on, I found it a really enjoyable and relaxing session. I shall long recall her lying on her back whilst I climaxed inside her, staring straight at me and moaning lightly with her doe-eyes wide open...(purely for show of course, but very tastefully done)



[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-madelaine.html[/url]

I had booked a 'first appointment' with Madeleine for 4pm, and this turned out to be a 'Hall of Fame' session that I will remember for a long while. I had enjoyed Madeleine's company once before, at the back end of 2009. She has picked up a good grasp of English and German since then, which was helpful.

I had pre-planned to have a real hard-core session with her, as I know from experience that this girl can take a pounding despite her slim frame, but the occasion developed into a quite different sort of scene. She was intensely passionate and loving, and the afternoon turned into one of the best GFE experiences of my career. She is so cute and sensual, with a tenderness and finesse that belies her youth. I extended for a second hour, which I have never done before with a Hausbesuch, and the 2nd round was even better than the first.

One word of note about pricing however:- This agency used to charge 100E for a 1 hour session. This became 120E for Madeleine and 100E for the other girls. Now they are charging 30E extra for the 'call-out charge', so the total for Madeleine for the first hour was 150E. Plus 120E for the second hour = 270E total damage - well worth it anyway.

A certain repeat for me.

She leaves in June, so those of you who have not yet experienced Madeleine need to get your bookings in relatively soon.

Cheers

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]The Madame told me that a number of the girls from the website that interested me were no longer working at Monrouge or were on holiday. She presented me with 4 girls, of whom only Adriana is depicted on their site. I had heard good reports on her in a variety of places, so I went with her. She is prettier than her photos suggest, with flawless white skin and a cute round face. Her service is really good, and whilst there was no special chemistry going on, I found it a really enjoyable and relaxing session. I shall long recall her lying on her back whilst I climaxed inside her, staring straight at me and moaning lightly with her doe-eyes wide open...(purely for show of course, but very tastefully done)[/QUOTE]

Thanks Charlie. Your review of Adriana brings back memories:)

This girl was a regular for me a couple of years back. I saw her once a month for about 8 months and I can certainly agree with your assessment. She is a real sweetie. My trouble with her was that after a pause of two or three months, upon visiting her she acted like a real GF-all cold & bitchy. No more kisses for Angus.


[QUOTE=Charlie 123]I had booked a 'first appointment' with Madeleine for 4pm, and this turned out to be a 'Hall of Fame' session that I will remember for a long while. I had enjoyed Madeleine's company once before, at the back end of 2009. She has picked up a good grasp of English and German since then, which was helpful.

I had pre-planned to have a real hard-core session with her, as I know from experience that this girl can take a pounding despite her slim frame, but the occasion developed into a quite different sort of scene. She was intensely passionate and loving, and the afternoon turned into one of the best GFE experiences of my career. She is so cute and sensual, with a tenderness and finesse that belies her youth. I extended for a second hour, which I have never done before with a Hausbesuch, and the 2nd round was even better than the first.

One word of note about pricing however:- This agency used to charge 100E for a 1 hour session. This became 120E for Madeleine and 100E for the other girls. Now they are charging 30E extra for the 'call-out charge', so the total for Madeleine for the first hour was 150E. Plus 120E for the second hour = 270E total damage - well worth it anyway.[/QUOTE]

Funny that Madeleine was the darling of the German forum, Verkehrsberichte, when she appeared on the scene this past autumn. Nobody had a bad word to say for her and this led to her popularity pricing of 20 euros above the other girls.

Upon her return in February she suddenly has the reputation for being stuck up and full of herself. It appears as she really does like you a bit as you managed to coax what sounds like a stellar session from her.

Many thanks for the report.

AM

[QUOTE=Staffan68]How is the current situation in Berlin?

Price range?[/QUOTE]

I refer you to my posting of 24/02/10.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=991496&postcount=2013[/url]

As for pricing-I am not really sure. But there are other posts on this subject in the forum which I suggest you read.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I refer you to my posting of 24/02/10.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=991496&postcount=2013[/url]

As for pricing-I am not really sure. But there are other posts on this subject in the forum which I suggest you read.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I must have missed your report.

Do you know any other areas in Berlin?

MADELEINE - 3 sessions so far :)

Madeleine really is petite the 150 cm, 45kg and the B-cup on [url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-madelaine.html[/url] all seem to be accurate. She said that she was 21 and from Budapest. All the other KundZ and Hautnah girls have been Romanian, so I do not know if this is accurate.

Overall Rating: 10/10
Her looks: 9/10 – she is just seriously cute, has nice breasts and a killer bottom
Her Attitude: 10/10 – one of the best kissers I have been with, including my girl friends
Her service: 11/10 – to die for ;)

SIMONA - 1 session so far :)

Simona is a bit taller than Madelaine, and the 160 cm, 49kg and her A-cup on [url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-simona.html[/url] all seem to be accurate. She says that she is Romanian, while Madeleine says she is Hungarian. Oh, and she smokes cigarettes while Madeleine does not – leaving her otherwise enjoyable French kissing with that ashtray’ish taste :(.

Overall Rating: 9/10
Her looks: 8/10 – slightly taller than Maddy,
Her Attitude: 9/10 – as enthusiastic as Maddy, a bit rougher when kissing and blowing
Her service: 10/10 – she is a 10, but Maddy is stellar

*** The telephone guy

A lot has been said already about Klein-und-Zierlich (KundZ) taken the baton from the *****-Club agency (née Hautnah). More so since both Miki and Ramona have been resurfacing with KundZ.

Again, the telephone guy at Klein-und-Zierlich reminded me of the chap at the now defunct Hautnah agency. Good German, polite and to the point. He will take your address and mobile number to call you should there be any delays – I had sessions with both Ramona and Madeleine and they have always been on time.

*** Madeleine - first impressions

Madeleine arrived wearing tight black jeans, a tight top and ballerina shoes. She did have very little make up, keeps her finger nails short and only uses transparent nail polish. Altogether she did make the impression of a sober 20 year old, very pleasant without anything remotely tarty (let alone sluttish) about her. The only thing made up about her is her (new) extensions – her hair now is longer than on KundZ’s site.

She likes appearing street smart and when I had her for a second time was a bit proud to know how the access security system in my gated condo works.

*** Maddy - well, second impressions

I offered her to take a shower. My condo is fairly open plan and after a very quick shower she came back to the living room - starkly naked and smiling, asking me why I was still dressed.

The lack of the towel revealed her shaven pussy and her killer arse. She seems very confortable with showing her body - and while her petite body reminds me of Asian girls, that is something which is very different from the always towel wrapped Asians.


*** Playing with Maddy

Well, who was I to resist…

I put on some music. Madelaine's German is pretty much non existent, her English is ok’ish. We (well, she) decided for English as our common language and she was both cheeky and pleasant to be with. We joked about our difference (I am much taller than her) in size and our lack of a common language - and landed in the bed.

She has perfect although small breasts, a very flat stomach and a neatly shaven pussy. I think in terms of her body she is a 9, too small to be a killer 10. She is very petite, so YMMV.

She turned out to be one of the best kissers I have been with, including my real girl friends. I must admit that my memory is a bit blurred here – I have hired her three time altogether and she has been kissing more intimately each time, soothe FK may be as ever so often ‘bei Sympathie’. She then started with a (long) blow job. At times it was a bit rough and direct and I have experienced more varied technique. However, she deserves a 10 for endurance. She was enthusiastically doing me for more than 10 minutes. At one point bare back blow job was finished and we started having (obviously protected) s**. I guess the complete 1st sessions have been lasting for 40 minutes or so. The amazing thing is that she tries to make me switch positions when I am about to come (rather that try to make me come quickly); she has been blowing me in the 2nd session (trying to make me CIM); and she has asked me twice what I really liked sexually (and offering that service).

She massaged me and seems to enjoy chatting, as far as her limited English suffices. While chatting, she can be classy, girlish and genuinely sweet. And she is one of the best f***s in my life...

*** Simona - first impressions

Simona arrived a lot like Maddy wearing tight black jeans, a tight top and ballerina shoes. Again very little make up, same hair extensions – but longer nails short and red nail polish. And a bit rougher somehow.

*** Playing with Simona

I had been put on music while she had been showering and she asked me to undress (BTW: why are all those Romanian Hautnah and KundZ escorts into Eminem?)

Simona's German is pretty much non existent, and her English is sufficient for very basic conversations only. Same, ad Maddy she was both cheeky and pleasant to be with. At that time she was naked - she has flat’ish A-cup breasts, a very flat stomach and a neatly shaven pussy. Ignoring her breasts, she is as pretty as Maddy – them included she is a cute 8. She is still petite, so YMMV.

After some more teasing - I had the impression she would not like to french kiss as much as Maddy and did not push it - she started a very prolonged BBBJ. At times it was a bit rough and direct and I have experienced more varied technique. However, she deserves a another 10 for endurance.

Great (protected) s** after the bare back blow job. And we chatted after s**. She comes from Bucharest in Romania and has been in Berlin for 2 months. While chatting, she can be girlish and she is generally best when she does things she seems comfortable with.

LAST THOUGHTS

Madeleine told she liked going shopping with Simona. Maybe that means that she is friends with her, which would make sense given that the other two KundZ girls might be closer with their commong Hautnah history.

So, I am contemplating a 3-some with them. Any advice anyone? Angus?

[QUOTE=Txl Muc]So, I am contemplating a 3-some with them. Any advice anyone? Angus?[/QUOTE]

Do it!!! And please issue a report. Pics would earn you major points;)

Seriously it sounds like a threesome with these two could be a winner. IME the most important ingredient for a successful P4P duo is that the girls be friends. And it sounds like this base is fully covered.

And it is good to hear two such positive reports about this agency here on ISG. Reading the German forum I was beginning to believe that KundZ had jumped the shark. But then maybe the over all sophistication of the typical ISG member is higher than that of the local forums.

Will add both your posts & Charlie's to the RoD thread.

Thanks

AM

[B] Edit [/B] Thanks T M for the heads up on the abbreviation "KZ". Helps to have some native speakers on board.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Funny that Madeleine was the darling of the German forum, Verkehrsberichte, when she appeared on the scene this past autumn. Nobody had a bad word to say for her and this led to her popularity pricing of 20 euros above the other girls.

Upon her return in February she suddenly has the reputation for being stuck up and full of herself. It appears as she really does like you a bit as you managed to coax what sounds like a stellar session from her. Many thanks for the report.
AM[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen, that's what I call coincidental reporting. I also had an excellent session since Charly's earlier question - several excellent sessions sessions actually. [url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=996575#post996575[/url]

Quick word of advice: treat Maddy nicely and she will reciprocate. And she feeds on Nutella and Red Bull - have those in stock... ;)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee] Pics would earn you major points;)AM[/QUOTE]

I did not realize you have THAT fetish ;)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]

Seriously it sounds like a threesome with these two could be a winner. IME the most important ingredient for a successful P4P duo is that the girls be friends. And it sounds like this base is fully covered. [/QUOTE]

Still contemplating. And saving.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
But then maybe the over all sophistication of the typical ISG member is higher than that of the local forums [/QUOTE]
Well, Berlin is not THE German haven for sophistication. And tone in German forums frequently is not very pleasant. So maybe Madeleine was just going native... Or maybe we REALLY are all gentlemen in this forum ... ;)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Will add both your posts & Charlie's to the RoD thread.[/QUOTE]
Thanks

[QUOTE=Txl Muc]I did not realize you have THAT fetish ;)[/QUOTE]

No fetish. But pictures are worth 1000 words as they say ;)


[QUOTE=Txl Muc], Berlin is not THE German haven for sophistication. And tone in German forums frequently is not very pleasant. So maybe Madeleine was just going native... Or maybe we REALLY are all gentlemen in this forum ... ;)[/QUOTE]


My impression of the German forums (at least the local ones that I am familiar with) is that the guys are often really obsessed with price. That is they are looking for low cost/high milage. Now not that I blame them, but I alway feel that the girls like guys who are a wee bit easier with the money. Not that you have to be rich (though it helps) but to always be grinding the girls shows bad form IMO. I find a bit of sweetness, like having a supply of Red Bull & Nutella on hand, softens a girls disposition and is repaid with a sweetness of service that even an extra 50 euros could not buy.

AM

So Txl-Muc and Angus, thanks for another little titbit gem ... just what do the girls do with the Nutella? Is it something we can read in Angus' long awaited BBBJ training manual?

Is combination with Red Bull obligatory?
(I think some of them want the new Red Bull sugar free now, a girls go to watch her figure after all)


[QUOTE=Angus Magee]... I find a bit of sweetness, like having a supply of Red Bull & Nutella on hand, softens a girls disposition and is repaid with a sweetness of service that even an extra 50 euros could not buy.
AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk]So Txl-Muc and Angus, thanks for another little titbit gem ... [/QUOTE]

You are welcome.

[QUOTE=Bearsk]
Just what do the girls do with the Nutella? Is it something we can read in Angus' long awaited BBBJ training manual?
[/QUOTE]

And I thought you would use your imagination (Nutella powered) ... and not need a manual. Given you seem to be an Artemis aficionado, you'll need a jar ;)

Honestly: it was a Nutella dip - but of the harmless type, aka Nutella & Go.

Does Nutella come in a six pack? It comes with a manual if you buy six?

[QUOTE=Txl Muc]You are welcome.



And I thought you would use your imagination (Nutella powered) ... and not need a manual. Given you seem to be an Artemis aficionado, you'll need a jar ;)

Honestly: it was a Nutella dip - but of the harmless type, aka Nutella & Go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk]Does Nutella come in a six pack? It comes with a manual if you buy six?[/QUOTE]


The sweet girl is going to wonder why, over the coming weeks, every other monger she meets greets her with a Red Bull & a large jar of Nutella ;)

[QUOTE=Txl Muc]So, I am contemplating a 3-some with them. Any advice anyone? Angus?[/QUOTE]I suggested exactly that to Madeleine at the end of our excellent session this week. She told me that she would be happy to party with any of the other girls in the agency, but they were all back home at present, but she wouldn't 3-some with Simone as she is her sister!

Charlie

[QUOTE=Staffan68]Thank you. I must have missed your report.

Do you know any other areas in Berlin?[/QUOTE]

There are a couple of other street locations. Oranienburgerstr. in Mitte and Strasse 17 Juni both can be found with girls selling their wares. But they are not recommended. Oranienburgerstr. especially is populated by very hard core street girls, who can look stunning, but whose service will leave you wanting. And for the price you will pay you can get a great session with a nice girl in a comfortable bordello.

Perhaps you should read this report.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=767681&postcount=946[/url]

It will give you an idea of what to expect.

AM

Thought I would stop by Berlin for a bit of mongering.

Müller 2 (Lankwitzer straße 7); Saw maybe 8 girls that night, but decided with Mimi - who's the website. Petite little thing, can't be more that 5 foot tall, but nice package on her. 30 minute session was very good, lots attention, touching, sex in a few positions and she seemed like she enjoyed sex. For looks i give her 7/10 and service was 9/10.

L'amour2; Day trip to middle of nowhere. Went with Vivien for 20 mins with küssen (also on the website). She's average looking, but with curves in all the right places. Great session, with lots of DFK and sex very satisfying. For looks i give her 8/10 and service 9/10.

Müller 2; Wanted to go to Liberty but was closed at 20.00 (WTF ???) So quickly rushed to Müller 2, after the previous session. Not so many girls that night, but ended up with Vivien for 20 mins with French both ways. Not the best looking and service was quite average, but i gave her DATY and let me figner her as long as i wanted - can't do much better than that. For looks i give her 5/10 and service 6/10.

Stay tuned, will be back for another session in berlin soon.

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[QUOTE=Charlie 123]I suggested exactly that to Madeleine (...). She told me that she would be happy to party with any of the other girls in the agency, (...) but she wouldn't 3-some with Simone as she is her sister!
Charlie[/QUOTE]

I asked the telephone guy about a 3-some: he confirmed Maddys response - I am not sure whether that is true or whether they are just close friends, but she seems to dislike the very idea, so I won't push it. Talk about bubbles bursting... ;)

Going to Berlin later this month and I could use some reports on girls from KD since there are quite a bunch of new faces lately.

On an earlier trip I had a hot and naughty GFE with Luna ([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/luna-e.htm[/url]) but sadly she does not work there anymore.

The day after I went with Grace ([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/grace-e.htm[/url]) and she was very nice and sweet but we did not quite click so the sex was so-so.

But what I had with Luna, that's what I'm looking for: Hot and naughty GFE...

Any reccomendations?

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph]But what I had with Luna, that's what I'm looking for: Hot and naughty GFE...?[/QUOTE]

Aren't we all?

My first recommendation would have to be next time you come to Berlin (or anywhere) and have a hot, naughty GFE maybe post a report. That way the forum becomes more active with actual reports and everybody benefits.

I checked your posting history, such as it is, and found 8 postings mostly questions with a few comments. I have to ask what you do with your info, if you receive any, and remind you that giving back information is key to success on these forums.

End of lecture.

As I know this thread probably better than anyone I can tell you there is not a huge number of reports on current KD girls. But there is some. I suggest you do a search, making sure that you check the field that posts the results as reports, not threads, as you will have less to sift through. The RoD thread is also useful to skim.

Or you can find a report by Bobo fr. and check his reports as he has a number of KD reports to his credit.

On a more philosophical level-the GFE (especially the naughty variety) is an elusive beast. If you had one with a KD girl and then struck out the second time, that is not a bad track record. And just because you had a GFE with a girl does not mean I will have one with the same girl. It depends on how you "click" with the girl and this is never guaranteed. Over all, I have found that of the apartment bordellos, KD & Liberty are the addresses where I have had the most over all success with finding GFE.

But Artemis, not an apartment bordello but an FKK, beats them all, albeit at a higher price.

AM

Something else to consider about not posting reviews.

I can not speak for other mongers but I know I do have a small list of girls I consider to be top GFEs. With these girls I usually develop a sort of friendship with in the confines of our paid sex relationship. Thus I will not share this info with anyone unless he has a decent posting history and I can judge him to be a reasonable fellow. If you come here just to siphon off information you will not get this info I can assure you.

AM

I agree completely.
Bobby, Angus and others are forthcoming.
At KD Fiona and Flavia have get reputations for GFE whereas apparently Allegra has tits to die for but will not let you play with them ....

NOW you are notice to actually post something useful from your upcoming trip.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Something else to consider about not posting reviews.

I can not speak for other mongers but I know I do have a small list of girls I consider to be top GFEs. With these girls I usually develop a sort of friendship with in the confines of our paid sex relationship. Thus I will not share this info with anyone unless he has a decent posting history and I can judge him to be a reasonable fellow. If you come here just to siphon off information you will not get this info I can assure you.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]My first recommendation would have to be next time you come to Berlin (or anywhere) and have a hot, naughty GFE maybe post a report. That way the forum becomes more active with actual reports and everybody benefits.
(...)
End of lecture.[/QUOTE]I know that sharing information and reporting is essential for the forum. (Regarding the GFE with Luna its around a year old and as such not that present in my head regarding details). Also I think I just have to learn how to share the experiences I have with the SP's. And I can only learn by trying, so of course I will report on my trips and experiences.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]On a more philosophical level-the GFE (especially the naughty variety) is an elusive beast. (...) just because you had a GFE with a girl does not mean I will have one with the same girl. It depends on how you "click" with the girl and this is never guaranteed.[/QUOTE]I also thought about this before I posted the question on great GFE girls at KD. But IMHO some girls are still better at giving GFE than others more or less regardless of the 'click'.

And now I will go hunting for older forum posts! (why didn't I think of this myself?!)

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph]. Also I think I just have to learn how to share the experiences I have with the SP's. And I can only learn by trying, so of course I will report on my trips and experiences.[/QUOTE]

One thing to realize is that a lengthy report, while nice, is not necessary in order to inform the forum of your adventures. As I see it, if you are not into writing epics, at least write where you went, who you saw, how much it cost including any extras, and then a short summary of the session. This can be as short as one sentence though two or three is usually better. A link to the girl also helps if that is possible. Lastly I find it a good guide if you add, all things being equal, would you repeat with the girl-maybe as a percentage of chance. This does not mean you will repeat, just would you.

As I had some good experice with two of the agencies haushotellbesuche and kleine-zierlich I wanted to try two other agencies of two different occations.

The first one was diskret-privat. I decided or have someone who could do anal and the guy recommended Viktoria. I said ok as the girl looked ok. She came to the hotel 30 minutes later. Slim Bulgarian with small tits. She was clean and nice looking. Paid the 90+20€. No kissing, no owo and no anal. She left after 20 mins. Disaster.

[url]http://www.diskret-privat.de/modelle.php[/url]


Probably I had more blood in my dick than in my brain and went for this agency. I asked for Ceylan but she was not available but the gut recommeded Melissa who was not on the we that time. I was promised petite slim girl. When she toook off he clothes she was fat and smelly. She gave both OWO and anal and done after 20 minutes. No second shot.

So I agree with Angus regarding these agencies. It's better to stay away.




[url]http://www.6-escort.de/[/url]

I will be spending two days in Berlin next week. I really want to visit a couple Kinos. What are the best? (addresses) Which ones have the best looking women? Where is the action the hottest? Do any offer BBBJ/CIM or full BB?

[QUOTE=oriema2002]I will be spending two days in Berlin next week. I really want to visit a couple Kinos. What are the best? (addresses) Which ones have the best looking women? Where is the action the hottest? Do any offer BBBJ/CIM or full BB?[/QUOTE]

Your questions have been discussed & answered several times in the thread. Also look for the 1st version of the Berlin Guide in the RoD thread posted about 1.5 years back. The info is still relevant.

I like alternative looking girls with tattoos piercings, died hair, heavy make up etc. Are there any alternative or goth looking girls working in Berlin or are they all the clean cut type. Speaking English would be an advantage.

[QUOTE=Fascination]I like alternative looking girls with tattoos piercings, died hair, heavy make up etc. Are there any alternative or goth looking girls working in Berlin or are they all the clean cut type. Speaking English would be an advantage.[/QUOTE]


While I would not call her Goth she is sort of Alternative.

Trixie @ Freudenhaus

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/trixi.html[/url]

The pics on the website do not really show it but she has a number of tats and piercings. Nice girl too but no English to speak of. There is a review from a couple years back (by yours truly) in the forum. I will try to upload another pic of her that I happen to have from an older website.

A word of warning though-she is notoriously unreliable with regard to work. That is just because she is on the schedule does not mean she will be at work. I seem to remember having to go back several times to see her.

Edit-I know it is a pretty small pic but the ISG would not allow me to upload any of the other pics I have. Said they were too big. I am really not very knowledgeable about this end of things-pics & stuff

After my mongering in Berlin, especially in the escorts scene (duly reported here at that time), I too like Angus zeroed in on a a couple of GFEs whose numbers I obviously cannot share. But last week on a lark I tried Ophelia (old La passion) and had 2 excellent experiences with Alicia and Selina. Both don't much to look at but game for anything that you can come up with. IMHO a good value for the money you pay.

I perhaps won't do them again, but for a 1 off experience, it was worth it.

(BTW if someone has an experience with Susi there, a report will be welcome)

DP

I guess times are tough for the flat rates in Berlin. Caligula is now offering its' girls up during certain hours for the discounted rate of 20 euros for 20 minutes or 40 euros for 30. It includes oral and sex. I assume the oral is covered but it does not get any cheaper than that.

[url]http://www.caligula-berlin.de/bordell-guenstig-berlin.html[/url]

I do not vouch for the service you would receive but if all you are after is a lay you probably could do worse. If anyone tries it out a report would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I guess times are tough for the flat rates in Berlin. Caligula is now offering its' girls up during certain hours for the discounted rate of 20 euros for 20 minutes or 40 euros for 30. It includes oral and sex. I assume the oral is covered but it does not get any cheaper than that.

.[/QUOTE]

Angus ole Lad, I dunno. This sounds grim to me, sort of like a Big McMuschi...

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]Angus ole Lad, I dunno. This sounds grim to me, sort of like a Big McMuschi...[/QUOTE]


I agree RB, I am just reporting what I have found. On the other hand-sometimes a Big Mac just hits the spot, no? In all seriousness I do not feel much temptation to visit. The place has a real sleazy air to it. The only slight temptation I feel is to pay a visit to see if I could score a session with Anastasia. If you look back in the forum you will find a couple of reviews of the puffy princess. She used to work at the now defunct Erotik Desire and I have several really good sessions with her. But I fear my taste has now been forever turned towards more luxurious and kind surroundings.

Dear all,

Can anyone guide me for the best budget female comapnion. As I will be visiting by June. July. We are having expo there. So need good company with me. It will be for 3 days. The female partner can stay with me.

[QUOTE=Fascination]I like alternative looking girls with tattoos piercings, died hair, heavy make up etc. Are there any alternative or goth looking girls working in Berlin or are they all the clean cut type. Speaking English would be an advantage.[/QUOTE]This can be one Choice for you.

[url]http://www.poppinserate.com/anzeige.php?id=1144[/url]

Also a real Gothgirl
[url]http://www.jessy-escort.de[/url]
The Pictures do not reale Show it, but this Girl is big tatooed .

The first one I don't know, the second one I can personaly give a very good Note.

I've read a couple of reports, including a very elaborate one by Mass Monger (thank you), on flat rate places in berlin. However, one thing is never mentioned.

Is there a pressure to buy drinks for the girls there? The reason I ask is that it seems a little too good to be true that you can have sex with 6 women for 79 or 99 Euroes. So I am expecting champagne drinks etc. To the order of the day, but it's never mentioned. Otherwise I must say, 99 euroes for unlimited sex and a couple of drinks sounds pretty good to me.

So any experience with extras at falt rate places would be appreciated. I am there in May, and only have 2 days so I don't have time to make wrong decisions.

[QUOTE=Sanjay Dutt]Can anyone guide me for the best budget female comapnion. As I will be visiting by June. July. We are having expo there. So need good company with me. It will be for 3 days. The female partner can stay with me.[/QUOTE]

You would benefit by posting this question in the Nuremberg section.

Rufus

Just wondering if there are any places Bars/Clubs/Streets where I can pick up some younger girls in this age range. I will happily pay for quality.

[QUOTE=Mr Tee]Just wondering if there are any places Bars/Clubs/Streets where I can pick up some younger girls in this age range. I will happily pay for quality.[/QUOTE]


I am not that clear what you are after. I am assuming you are looking for non pro girls (students) who you pick up as civilians and then offer to pay for their services. If so I wish you luck. This is always a tricky coup to pull off properly in a country as relatively well off as is Germany. You really do risk insulting the girl with your offer as well intentioned as it may be. I am not saying it is in any way impossible, just difficult.

That being said, I can tell you that the area of Friedrichshein Berlin has a fairly busy street and cafe scene in the summer months. You might try there.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I am not that clear what you are after. I am assuming you are looking for non pro girls (students) who you pick up as civilians and then offer to pay for their services. If so I wish you luck. This is always a tricky coup to pull off properly in a country as relatively well off as is Germany. You really do risk insulting the girl with your offer as well intentioned as it may be. I am not saying it is in any way impossible, just difficult.

That being said, I can tell you that the area of Friedrichshein Berlin has a fairly busy street and cafe scene in the summer months. You might try there.

AM[/QUOTE]Why would they refuse easy money? You'd think students would be all over deals like this.

You better continue wondering, Mr.Tee. This is a very funny question and Angus is right to warn you : The answer you will get from the girl might be very clear but almost certainly not in the way you wanted. German girls and especially girls in Berlin are quite liberal - they like to flirt and compared to France and even Paris it is not so difficult to find a girl-friend in Berlin. But never, really NEVER, talk about money for sex ! In summer 2008 I had to go to Berlin and had some drink in a café at Hackescher Markt in Mitte. As it was not so cold as usual in this part of Sibiria, the place was crowded. So two girls (18 and 20) from Groningen (NL) asked to share my table. Of course, I agreed. And being in my fiftys I never hoped for more than some nice conversation. I invited them to dinner, offered a sight-seeing-tour in my car, we went to some bars and clubs and I finished a glorious night with one of them. This never happened before, this never happened again. Much to my regret. And I am sur : This would not, NOT, have happened at all if I had talked about money. So Mr.Tee : Save your Euros, spend your charme. If there is any.

This is good advice.
German society is polarized to liberal and conservation on all sorts of things, including sex. Working it out is complex.
I have a regular lady who is a 35 year old hotel manager and is very religious. She has the body of a statue under conservative clothes and has no other real vices. He favorite thing is having her brains fucked out after church (going to church is cheaper than dinner, I hear you say). Who would guess? On the other hand, very flirtatious younger women - happy to kiss in public with tongue, tell you they are virgins and they won't.
Be careful and try the areas Angus and Carl suggested. There are lots of young women and they certainly will talk to you

[QUOTE=Severin Carl]You better continue wondering, Mr.Tee. This is a very funny question and Angus is right to warn you : The answer you will get from the girl might be very clear but almost certainly not in the way you wanted. German girls and especially girls in Berlin are quite liberal - they like to flirt and compared to France and even Paris it is not so difficult to find a girl-friend in Berlin. But never, really NEVER, talk about money for sex ! In summer 2008 I had to go to Berlin and had some drink in a café at Hackescher Markt in Mitte. As it was not so cold as usual in this part of Sibiria, the place was crowded. So two girls (18 and 20) from Groningen (NL) asked to share my table. Of course, I agreed. And being in my fiftys I never hoped for more than some nice conversation. I invited them to dinner, offered a sight-seeing-tour in my car, we went to some bars and clubs and I finished a glorious night with one of them. This never happened before, this never happened again. Much to my regret. And I am sur : This would not, NOT, have happened at all if I had talked about money. So Mr.Tee : Save your Euros, spend your charme. If there is any.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tuxsmasher]Why would they refuse easy money? You'd think students would be all over deals like this.[/QUOTE]

Why refuse easy money? It may seem easy to you but to a young lady brought up in the west there is a huge stigma attached to a straight forward trading of sex for money. I honestly think that the type of encounter described by S C has a greater likelihood of happening here in Germany. To just sit down with a girl and half an hour (or two hours) later be offering her cash for sex....this is more likely to just cause offense.

Remember I say it is not an impossibility, just that the situation would require caution and discretion and would not be easy. You would as likely get your face slapped as anything else. But if Mr. Tee does manage to pull it off I would be delighted for him and of course expect a fully detailed report here in the near future.

Oh-and for the type of experience had by S C I think that the area he mentions is probably a better choice as you would more likely run into girls on vacation.

AM

A few pages back the possibilities of introducing Nutella into a session were pondered. I came across this on a torrent site yesterday and thought some of you might appreciate it. Let me say to avoid misunderstanding that Angus did not participate on the making of this video. I merely found it on a torrent site.


DL40.83Mb: [url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MN5RPSKE[/url]

Hi I am new to all this. Am in Berlin May 7-9th.

I have read the posts in great detail and will be visiting King George for definite. As this is my first visit to Berlin please could you recommend other Bordells near the Intercontinental Hotel.

Many Thanks

[QUOTE=Amitabh Bhachan]Hi I am new to all this. Am in Berlin May 7-9th.

I have read the posts in great detail and will be visiting King George for definite. As this is my first visit to Berlin please could you recommend other Bordells near the Intercontinental Hotel.

Many Thanks[/QUOTE]

Yo,

near the Interconti I would go to the Liberty in Martin-Luther Strasse 14..!! Very good place and very well run with nice and pretty ladies who offer good service for reasonable money..!!

Enjoy,
The AF

[QUOTE=The AF]Yo,

near the Interconti I would go to the Liberty in Martin-Luther Strasse 14..!! Very good place and very well run with nice and pretty ladies who offer good service for reasonable money..!!

Enjoy,
The AF[/QUOTE]

I whole heartedly second this suggestion. Liberty is an excellent bordello.

Remember to write your report.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I whole heartedly second this suggestion. Liberty is an excellent bordello.

Remember to write your report.

AM[/QUOTE]Please could you also recommend a sex kino near the intercontinental hotel as I do not wish to stray too far from there.

Also does anyone have any feedback on Airport Muschis Flatrate club

Many Thanks and i'll post my reports.

[QUOTE=Amitabh Bhachan]Please could you also recommend a sex kino near the intercontinental hotel as I do not wish to stray too far from there.

Also does anyone have any feedback on Airport Muschis Flatrate club

Many Thanks and i'll post my reports.[/QUOTE]


I am not 100% sure where the Intercontinental Hotel is. When asking such questions it is useful to include a link. That way, you do your own work and get a better chance at a good answer.

If you look in the RoD thread you will find lengthy report from a couple of years back that includes all I know about Kinos. I think that Kino 26 & Paolas kino are not too far from where you are. At least they are about a 20 minute walk from Liberty.

Airport Muschis may very well be closed. I think I read this on a German forum. I think you do best at King George. Caligula Club is also close but be careful there. I have read some bad reports about it and as a tourist you may not be treated well. The again, maybe you will be.

Do I need to remind you to write a report?

Arrived Tuesday with a long menu of girls on my 'to do before I die' list. Planned first stop was at Monrouge with Maya, but when I called in an effort to bring the appointment forward by half an hour I was told that she wasn't available. First time that I've ever been let down at Monrouge in any way. I wasn't best pleased. Vanessa and Inga at Prestige weren't working that day. I had intended to visit Rose16, a bordelle that specialises in older ladies, but the two MILF's that I fancied were also not on duty. Bad start.

Artemis was dead in the afternoon, and I spent an hour there between 2 and 3 pm without finding anything that took my fancy.

Things started to pick up - I then had a 2 hour session with Madeleine at the hotel
[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-madelaine.html[/url]

Once again she was fabulous - I have written up before a couple of my sessions with her - this was perhaps the best of them all. We seem to be developing something of a rapport, and I find her to be a tender and passionate lover rather than the 'glam' sex-bomb that the German boards in particular seem to view her.

The late session at Artemis was more promising - a wider selection of girls and a better turnout from the guys. I sessioned wildly with Katja from Slovakia, one of my regulars, and then has a trio with her and some plastic blonde Brazilian glamourpuss whose name I forget.

Day 2 (Wednesday) was contaminated by some work I had to do in the morning. Once again, my original plan had been to check out some Wohnungspuffhotties that I'd seen on the net, but I ended up back at Artemis at 4 pm. I confined myself to a single session with previous acquaintance Joy from Lithuania, a 5'8'' dark-haired girl with small tits but fit physique, largely constituted by a long and expert blowjob with cim finish

Conclusion:- A somewhat bland expedition overall, with too many repeat experiences and not enough new faces (and pussies) realised.

Note to self:- 'Next time stick to the agenda, do at least 3 new girls, and try to keep away from the ''Tried and Trusteds'' '

Happy May 1st holidays, Comrades!!

Charlie

I see a few places offering a new "2 for 1" special. Has anyone any experince with this? how does it work, and is it worth a look?

I am 23 year old guy living and working Berlin. I went to Oranienstrasse to pick up a prostitute tonight. I did not have to walk up and down the street too many times before I was solicited by a really hot girl. She said, "Do you want to go to my room? " (auf Deutsch). I responded "naturally, How much? " She said 50 for a BJ in park, 80 to go into a room.

Of course, I could not resist this offer of only 80 Euros to have sex with such a hot girl and hastily agreed. It was kind of (actually make that really) embarrassing to have to walk side by side with her until we got to the place where her room was, but whatever.

I only had a 100 Euros since I had two 50 EUR bills, so I asked if she could please give me change afterwards. She said that was fine. I knew there was a high likelihood I would never see those twenty EUR, but I still thought at the time 100 EUR to have sex with this girl is a bargain.

So I get naked and she gives me a massage. Meh, I hate these and never want them.

So then she gives me a HJ with condom! And, get this, fakes giving me a blowjob or at least I am 90% sure she was faking. It was really fucking weird. Anyone ever heard of a girl doing this? Can I request that she get down on her knees and let me stand? Why the hell do I always have to lie down and have them not look at me when giving me a BJ? Can't I ever receive one like they are meant to be received?

Anyway, then I'm about to cum so I tell her to please stop so that we can have sex. Her response shocked me: 150 EUR in order to have sex!

Since when did a ***** asking you to come into her room mean, "I will give you a handjob with a condom on and nothing more"?

I argued a bit, but could see I was getting nowhere so just sucked it up and told her to finish the HJ.

However, she was not done trying to swindle me.

She asked if I wanted to see her breasts. Of course I said yes.

I came about two minutes after this. However, as I was getting dressed, I reminded her of the 20 EUR she still owed me as change. She said she would change money as soon as she went downstairs.

Literally a minute later, though, she informs me that seeing her breasts costs 50 EUR normally, but because she is so generous she will only charge me 20! It was as though our previous conversation had never happened!

Anyway, is this typical behavior of Oranienstraße prostitues?

I'm not a very assertive guy, so is there a way for me to avoid having this happen to me in the future?

I got to admit, I like the idea of street prostitutes much more than brothels. The idea of seeing a really hot girl on the street and then having sex with her is much more of a fantasy come true for me than seeing a girl in as artificial a setting as a brothel.

Thanks for any advice on how to

A. Get a BJ while standing

B. Actually have sex with a street girl.

[QUOTE=Unter]

Thanks for any advice .[/QUOTE]


Hi,

From the sounds of it your experience was pretty typical of street girls from this area. True they can look good, but they are all about separating you from your cash while making as little effort as possible. The hand bj is also a very common technique used by these girls to avoid giving a real bj. Many will do the same thing with the pussy. That is, put their hand down there and generally make the whole experience so frustrating that you just give up and leave.

If you really do get some juice from picking a girl up I suggest the area around Bülowstr. in Schöneberg.

[url]http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=buelowstr&sll=52.250362,13.210466&sspn=0.90969,2.389526&ie=UTF8&cd=1&hq=&hnear=B%C3%BClowstra%C3%9Fe,+10783+Berlin&ll=52.497675,13.361607&spn=0.014134,0.037336&z=15[/url]

The girls there are less glamorous but I think you will have a better chance at finding someone who will actually service your needs. But be warned-this area is a little rougher in all ways and thus perhaps a little more dangerous.

In general street prostitution is a very frustrating way of meeting the ladies. The whole set up is very transient and the girls do not really expect to see you as a repeat customer. So where is their incentive to not just milk you of as much money as possible? Generally it does not exist. In my own adventures on the street, and this is quite some time back in a large N. American city, I found that maybe one session in 10 would be good. The rest varied from average to terrible. I really think that if one insists on finding girls this way, one has to accept these odds. And of course if yo can find and sign onto a good local forum where the guys who frequent the streets write their experiences, your odds are improved.

Personally I have to recommend using the bordellos here in Berlin. You might find them more "artificial" but you will get much better treatment in nicer surrounding. I am sure that any number of the Liberty crew would be able to supply you will a standing bj, uncovered for the half hour, fully naked for 80 euros.

Please read the Berlin thread. There are plenty of reports and recommendations in the back pages.

[QUOTE=Unter] I went to Oranienstrasse to pick up a prostitute tonight.[/QUOTE]
Bad rap alright, Unter.

But do you mean Oranienburgerstrasse instead of Oranienstrasse???

Yes, I did, but since my computer is currently sent to English, and I don't have an umlaut I didn't feel like writing out the full name.

One of my friends has recently been to Berlin and he is a guy who already naturally is good in picking up girls (without paying for them), but what he told me about Berlin. That's crazy!

He told me about the Berlin club-scene that you in a lot of big clubs but according to him it's almost like one big orgy, especially in the gothic & alternative clubs, that is is allowed to have sex in clubs and that they have special areas in the clubs where people have sex. According to him girls in Berlin are really extremely open-minded and sexually open.

Okay, this might be true, BUT are they really so open-minded as he described me?

So, is it a fairy tale or is it partially true?

[QUOTE=Worldbank]One of my friends has recently been to Berlin and he is a guy who already naturally is good in picking up girls (without paying for them), but what he told me about Berlin. That's crazy!

He told me about the Berlin club-scene that you in a lot of big clubs but according to him it's almost like one big orgy, especially in the gothic & alternative clubs, that is is allowed to have sex in clubs and that they have special areas in the clubs where people have sex. According to him girls in Berlin are really extremely open-minded and sexually open.

Okay, this might be true, BUT are they really so open-minded as he described me?

So, is it a fairy tale or is it partially true?[/QUOTE]

First, I am by no means an expert on the Berlin club scene. But I would imagine that you could find such clubs in Berlin. To say that this is the norm for clubs (orgy rooms, public sex) may be stretching the truth a bit. And I also imagine that these clubs, should you find them, will not be solidly a hetero environment. If you know what I mean.

The first girl is gorgeous but I can't see contact details listed anywhere on that site I haven't used it before, can someone help me out?

Anything more about Jessy would be nice also

[QUOTE=Hazukis]This can be one Choice for you.

[url]http://www.poppinserate.com/anzeige.php?id=1144[/url]

Also a real Gothgirl
[url]http://www.jessy-escort.de[/url]
The Pictures do not reale Show it, but this Girl is big tatooed .

The first one I don't know, the second one I can personaly give a very good Note.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Worldbank]
He told me about the Berlin club-scene that you in a lot of big clubs but according to him it's almost like one big orgy, especially in the gothic & alternative clubs, that is is allowed to have sex in clubs and that they have special areas in the clubs where people have sex. According to him girls in Berlin are really extremely open-minded and sexually open.
[/QUOTE]

There are at least 2 clubs (KitKat and Insomnia) where this does occasionally occur - I´ve heard of a few others. If you search ye Olde Interweb, you can see how it works - have to dress the part (fetish mode encouraged). Would also say German girls' reputation is definitely true, and Berlin especially as it´s kind of a tradition here. It was even more so in the wild East behind the Wall-sort of the one area where anything went.

If you are civilized, not too pushy and show a little charm and humour, great things can happen easily (isn´t that odd...?). I´d try more but simply don´t have the time and need to increase the odds to 100%, when there is time. Plus being in a steady relationship, risks too great for complications. And as this forum, and the one covering the local Love Bahnhoff (Artemis) chronicle, the mongering scene is pretty ripe. I feel safer in these realms but to each his own..

But WorldBank, shouldn´t you be focussed on making responsible loans to developing countries?????

Komrades

Does anyone have any first hand recent field experience from The Chateau, Haubachstr 22 in Charlottenburg near U R Wagner. Website(s) seem down and can´t find no nothing. Is it even open?? Thanks. Tired of Artemis which is just seeming stale....

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]Komrades

Does anyone have any first hand recent field experience from The Chateau, Haubachstr 22 in Charlottenburg near U R Wagner. Website(s) seem down and can´t find no nothing. Is it even open?? Thanks. Tired of Artemis which is just seeming stale....[/QUOTE]


Hi RB,

I went there once but it was probably about 2-3 years back. I was always tempted by the girls found on the web page. Upon arrival though I found girls who looked nothing like the girls shown on the website. Rather they were all older and looking very rough. I sat and ordered a 10 euro draft beer and was set immediately upon by a girl who wanted a 200 euro bottle of champagne before she would even consider going to a room. This sort of behavior I can well understand with a girl who was, say, a 8.5-9.5 in looks. But this girl I remember was truly awful and very aggressive in her approach. I drank my beer and fled as fast as I could. But the website was working when I tried it.

[url]http://www.chateau-girls.de/[/url]

As for alternatives to Artemis-I really think that your choices are limited. You could always give La Folie a try. Much less to get in (14 euros last time I was there) but the girl selection is limited and not top tier IMO. But certainly not terrible and if you find a girl you like...

Be warned tough, La Folie is probably one of the smokiest environments I have ever experienced. If you go you can be sure that you will leave, even with your clothes stashed in a locker, reeking of smoke. If you have a significant other best be prepared with a story that includes a visit to a smokey bar because you will smell of cigarette smoke when you get home.

There is also a place over in east Berlin, Friedrichshain, called Carena. I have not read much about it in the German forums but have always thought it looks worth a visit. But I can well imagine that you will be asked to buy lady drinks. Hopefully though it will be of the cheaper piccolo variety. Here is the website.

[url]http://www.party-live.de/[/url]

Another possibility is L'amour 2a.

[url]http://www.lamour2a.de/index.php?id=girls&lang=de[/url]

This is actually more of a bordello than a club but they do have a small bar where you can sit and have a drink or two, meeting the ladies if you like, before deciding which one to chose. I have been here twice and both times had good experiences. The only thing I would have to say though is that while you are welcome to sit and have a drink, it is not a place that I personally would want to spend too many hours hanging out like I do in Artemis. But then drinking has a very limited appeal to me.

Finally there would be the King George flat rate club. My misgivings aside, this place has had several good reviews here on ISG and plenty of praise on the German boards.

[QUOTE=Fascination]The first girl is gorgeous but I can't see contact details listed anywhere on that site I haven't used it before, can someone help me out?

Anything more about Jessy would be nice also[/QUOTE]


It says on the website that if you are interested in contacting this girl you need to do so though the website. I am not sure how to do that though I imagine it involves registering on the site. If this registration costs money I do not know.

AM

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]There are at least 2 clubs (KitKat and Insomnia) where this does occasionally occur - I´ve heard of a few others. [/QUOTE]

If memory serves there is a review some pages back of Insomnia. I think the reviewer visited on a GB night and had a fairly positive experience.

As for the KitKat-I myself visited a number of years back. As I understand it the KitKat has been around for many years in Berlin but is not a club per-say, rather a group of people who are into the SM/fetish scene and run the club in various locations. That is there is no permanent club but it moves from place to place.

When I went it was in a big old warehouse in Templehof. I went with a female friend who is actually a lesbian and we arrived as a couple with her pretending to be my mistress...

Old Angus was dressed for the occasion in the male equivalent of a thong (I guess you could call it a fancy jockstrap) and little else. The atmosphere was reasonably friendly, more or less hetero and not at all unpleasant. But it was also very heavily geared towards the fetish scene.

I did not see very much sex at all. I do remember seeing a girl being publicly fisted and plenty of nudity. There was also a very graphic SM show later in the evening involving whips and dildos in all holes.

My one caveat, as I mentioned before, is that this atmosphere is by no means strictly a straight environment. That is you will have to be comfortable with partying along side gay men and lesbians as they do make up a large part of the cliental. In my experience nobody there is in anyway pushy about their sexuality, but it is there and you have to be secure enough to deal with it if you see men kissing and even perhaps sucking each other off.

The other thing is that getting past the door might be a bit difficult for single hetero males. When I went, as mentioned, I was with a female and thus was admitted without question. But after an hour my friend wanted to leave. I was told at that point that I would have to leave with her. They are not to enthusiastic about having unknown single men milling about. I was told that single straight men often cause problems they wish to avoid. It was only after talking with the door woman at length about myself that I was permitted to stay.

So I do think that if you show up as a single male, obviously a tourist, you might just have difficulty getting in. Other than that it was sort a fun evening though I was never in the least tempted to go back. But then the whole SM/fetish thing does little for me.

Hi guys

I am going to Amsterdam for a concert on the 18th, and following with a concert in Berlin on the 20th, and then staying for a couple of days.

Regarding Berlin this is my first time there, and my first experience with p4p outside of Thailand.

I have been studying the board and a lot of websites. This is what I have come up with as far as ideas and questions:

I want to visit King George to experience the closest western civilization has so far come to the fall of Rome. Seriously, a flat rate all you can fuck? That has got to be tried. As sick as it is.

Then I have my eye on this girl at L'amour: [url]http://www.Lamour2a. De/index.php? Id=girls&lang=en&model_id=24[/url]

Her brown eyes sound good, and the body is just my type. But I hear bad things about L'amour on the forum, any tips?

I also want to try Caligula's flat rate but reviews have been scarce and comments pretty negative. Any new info on that, or should I just take one for the team and report?

Then there is the "2 for 1" craze going on ([url]http://www.Club-sternchen. De/[/url] and [url]http://www.Erotische-modelle. De/index.html[/url] and [url]http://www.Stella-berlin. De/index.php? Home[/url]).

Well I never tried two girls so I am thinking about it. Does anyone have any info on these offers? Are they for real, and are they worth anything?

Is there a better place (better girls with whom) to get that first experience?

Then last but for me definitely not least, this girl Cheyenne at MARISSAGE:

[url]http://www.Omello.de/modelle/girl-cheyenne-aus-berlin-blonder-traum-mit-blauen-augen-000257.php[/url]

Site says nothing about price, so I will have to give them a call, but she looks fantastic (to me). Just my type in every way, especially the face. Have you guys got info on this place. Apparently it's just two girls working there at the moment.

Any input on these ideas and girls will be most welcome. And anyone wanting to meet up for a beer is welcome too.

Thank you for a great forum, and sorry I have so far only really posted on a Phuket site.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi RB,

I went there once but it was probably about 2-3 years back. I was always tempted by the girls found on the web page. Upon arrival though I found girls who looked nothing like the girls shown on the website. ...Be warned tough, La Folie is probably one of the smokiest environments I have ever experienced. ...There is also a place over in east Berlin, Friedrichshain, called Carena. I have not read much about it in the German forums but have always thought it looks worth a visit. [url]http://www.party-live.de/[/url]

Another possibility is L'amour 2a.

[url]http://www.lamour2a.de/index.php?id=girls&lang=de[/url]

This is actually more of a bordello than a club but they do have a small bar where you can sit and have a drink or two, meeting the ladies if you like, before deciding which one to chose. I have been here twice and both times had good experiences.[/QUOTE]

Hi Angus - as always, your knowledge is encyclopedic. I shall ponder a rethink, though I have been to all without much oomph, over the years.
On the other - indeed after being down for hours yesterday, the Chateau website swallowed its digital Viagra and was finally up. I was underwhelmed to the max and your comments above nailed the coffin shut.

I did stray over to Van Kampen recently to be quite pleasantly surprised to become reacquainted with a long lost, scortching hot bed buddy (Holly) whom I can highly recommend. You have to like your tall Teutonic busty blondes but she is just on fire. Even though it´s a nice place, VK is still somehow a paragon of disorganization - always delays, confusion between who picks up the phone and what is really going on, etc. Just have to allow plenty of time for as the Brits say - faffing about.

I believe the cure is a trip to the Rhein-Main O-zone- hopefully end May if weather, wallet, and volcanic clouds cooperate.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]I believe the cure is a trip to the Rhein-Main O-zone- hopefully end May if weather, wallet, and volcanic clouds cooperate.[/QUOTE]


Hi RB,

Well from the sounds of it you may well be suffering from Mongers Malaise. That is when one just can not seem to find what one wants. It brings to mind this particular anthem to dissatisfaction:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgtBDG6_gcQ[/url]

Maybe not everyone's cup 'o tea but I like the plaintive energy of wanting something new expressed in the song.

And I do think a road trip may well be the cure (at least short term) for monger's malaise.

Life is indeed "short and filled with stuff".

Angus - this could indeed be the disease. Thanks - I did not know it had a name and I´ll have to take this up with my doctor.

Before / beyond The Cramps, there was of course that other little thing by Mick & Keith, involving a certain lack of Satisfaction.

The "before" is here:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVEN0KE2VC0[/url]

and the "after" here:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXcNQTa3zgs[/url]

[QUOTE=Jedi 1977]Then I have my eye on this girl at L'amour: [url]http://www.Lamour2a.de/index.php?id=girls&lang=en&model_id=24[/url]

Her brown eyes sound good, and the body is just my type. But I hear bad things about L'amour on the forum, any tips?[/QUOTE]

Not sure where you have heard bad things about L'Amour2a on this forum. Certainly not from me. While I can not say if it is the best bordello available in Berlin it is most certainly not the worst. I myself have been there twice (reports written) and had not a bad time. The place does seem to have a line on some very tasty looking talent. And the place does have the advantage of being on the inexpensive side of Berlin pricing so you do not risk that much.

[QUOTE=Jedi 1977]I also want to try Caligula's flat rate but reviews have been scarce and comments pretty negative. Any new info on that, or should I just take one for the team and report?[/QUOTE]

The place has a bad rep & a bad feel to it. But as long as you don't go expecting a GFE it could be worth a visit. Over all though, from reports written, I'd say King George is a safer bet. And I do not really think that there will be much difference when it comes to the quality of the talent.


[QUOTE=Jedi 1977]IThen there is the "2 for 1" craze going on ([url]http://www.club-sternchen.de/[/url] and [url]http://www.erotische-modelle.de/index.html[/url] and [url]http://www.stella-berlin.de/index.php?home[/url]).[/QUOTE]

I would give Sternchen a miss. My two or three visits there were pretty bad. Let's just say that the girls offered were nothing like the girls shown on the web page. Mac is a good choice if a bit rough and I have heard good things about Stella-Berlin but no experience myself.

As for the two for one....

Who knows what you will find. But in my experience a duo has to be well orchestrated if it is to be any good. I personally would rather pay a bit more and get a decent session. Throwing away cash on girls who are not really into it is never much of a savings in the end.


[QUOTE=Jedi 1977] last but for me definitely not least, this girl Cheyenne at Marissage:

[url]http://www.Omello.de/modelle/girl-cheyenne-aus-berlin-blonder-traum-mit-blauen-augen-000257.php[/url]

Site says nothing about price, so I will have to give them a call, but she looks fantastic (to me). Just my type in every way, especially the face. Have you guys got info on this place. Apparently it's just two girls working there at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Uncharted territory. There you will have to TOFTT.

Have fun and remember to write your report.

AM

Hello, All, I am still in Berlin until tomorrow nigh, but as soon as I arrived, I went to Liberty as advised. I was taken aback by the surroundings and the welcome by the lady who answered the door. I was asked to be seated, offered a drink.

Then a few ladies came and introduced themselves, they were all in the 8. 5. 9. 5 range so I was very pleased. I chose a beautiful looking girl wearing a bodice,. Sophia and we went to a room.

The room was the cream room, excellent surroundings. Sophia is absolutely beautiful, she is extremely well spoken and fantastic in the sack, she kissed very passionately and we had a great 50 mins or so together.(I did not pay for 1 Hr).

We had such a good time together. She has agreed to see me tomorrow on her day off!. I'm off to try King George tonight will report back soon

Thanks to everyone for the advice. Really enjoying Berlin.

Do anyone know if asian customers/guests are welcomed at german brothels/FFK?

I'm considering going on a "tour" since I'm stuck in Berlin for month, but not so sure if the brothels/clubs/ffk accepts asian customers in general. I had in particular planned to visit King George, as Iæm pretty curious how this works.

[QUOTE=Gold777]Do anyone know if asian customers/guests are welcomed at german brothels/FFK?

I'm considering going on a "tour" since I'm stuck in Berlin for month, but not so sure if the brothels/clubs/ffk accepts asian customers in general. I had in particular planned to visit King George, as Iæm pretty curious how this works.[/QUOTE]


I have never heard of any discrimination against Asians at any of the better bordellos (nor the not so good ones for that matter) in Berlin. If you have the money required, are clean, polite and cause no problems I am sure that you will be welcomed. As I understand it Asians are often well liked by the girls as they have the reputation for having money. This is of prime importance.

A short report from RTL TV (in German of course) about street prostitution in Berlin. Showing the nastier and probably a wee but sensationalistic side of the business. I did not understand completely in a single viewing but I understood that they were highlighting the dangers and the fact that the girls are, in the current economic environment, slashing prices.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQHMgUkfXS0[/url]

AM

What's your experience when it comes to analsex in brothels? Being a bit of a fan of analsex I think it's worth the extra euros, but I've had some bad experiences where the girl was not all clean, which is a huge turnoff. I was in Dusseldorf recently and visited a brothel, after we agreed on anal she told me I had to wait a little while for her to clean her ass (inside also). Other times I've been to brothels the girl did not do this. But it was all worth the wait, she was 100% clean and the session was fantastic.

Did anyone meet girls in Berlin area who does this cleaning procedure before an anal session?

How could I resist? The invitation translation included “…you are invited to personally explore the Greek position with members of the XXXXX German Sekretariat…..”
Now, maybe I’ve been out of the game for too long. My mind was hoping rather more for an exploration of the nether regions of nubile German executive assistants than discussions with Teutonic accountants about fiscal deficits. Never mind, off to Berlin anyway for a couple of days. Unfortunately accompanied this trip by less enlightened souls so a long overdue return visit to Artemis would have to be postponed to another time, but there would probably be an occasional hour or so to investigate other opportunities.
And so armed with Angus Magee’s latest city guide ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=1936[/url]), from which I copied and pasted relevant sections to a word doc on a memory stick along with some recent reports from Mass Monger (#2034) among others, I was ready for action if a suitable window were to present itself.
An hour to spare after lunch in the Ka De We locale, so off to Liberty ([url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/[/url]) to see what the line-up was like. Walked down Martin-Lutherstrasse just past the intersection with (I kid you not) Fuggerstrasse to number 14 where a young and pert, heavily made up fraulein was approaching the front door, presumably to start her shift. Clearly labelled doorbell, buzzed in and up two floors where I was welcomed and shown to a nice room. Alas, Miss Pert was not in the line up, but an adequate selection nevertheless for the time of day. I chose Anastasia, a pretty petite perfectly proportioned Russian, who would probably be described by our colonial cousins as a spinner. A very good time was enjoyed and I would recommend. As Angus has mentioned, be careful of the pricing structure where a basic time based price includes covered oral and sex. All extras are charged for such as kissing, BBJ and so on to a standard house price. Kissing €20, BBJ €20, Korperbesamung €10, etc. I never felt upsold though and Anastasia was a delight, well worth the kissing extra charge.
On the following day a similar opportunity presented itself. Time for a quickie only, so I decided to go for a value option and headed to Freudenhaus ([url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de[/url]). Changed S-Bahn lines at Friedrichstrasse to a northern bound one for a few stops to Humboldthain. Out of the station turn left onto Hochstrasse and walk 50 metres to an opening on the left where number 45 comprises two houses back from the street in a courtyard. On the left side is the Laufhaus and on the right is a house with Modelle (?). Don’t understand the distinction here, perhaps Angus can enlighten as to the difference? Anyways buzzed into Laufhaus and walked each of the floors. Not a great selection, but some business being done so didn’t see everyone. I returned to the ground level and chose a Polish girl (name escapes me, apologies, and cannot recognise her from the website but she was in the first available room on the left). Twenty minutes for €30, CBJ and sex with position change. Fun but probably would not repeat.
My thanks to all posters here, especially Angus.

[QUOTE=Gandax]On the left side is the Laufhaus and on the right is a house with Modelle (?). Don’t understand the distinction here, perhaps Angus can enlighten as to the difference? [/QUOTE]Hi Gandax,

First many thanks for the report-especially the info about Anastasia. I can not help but wonder if it is the same girl who used to work at Desire Erotik and now appears also on the Caligula web page. From the Liberty pics I would say it is unlikely but you never know. Those pics can be misleading. One question if I might-did the Anastasia you saw have small but pronounced puffy nipples? In any case here is a link to the Caligula Anastasia pics to see if you can help make an ID.

[url]http://www.caligula-berlin.de/bordell/anastasija.html[/url]

As for the other bordello at #45-there has been several in that location but they never seem to last for more than a few months. I do not know why but I guess it may be the competition offered by Freudenhaus?

I am not at all sure what, if anything, is located there at this time.

AM

Hi Angus,

Thanks for your comments. No I think my Anastasia is different. The Liberty pictures seem pretty accurate without any or much photoshopping. She was certainly younger than the Caligula girl and facially different too. Nipples not particularly puffy either, sorry, just as you see in the Liberty pics.

Regarding #45, there was certainly some business in the Modelle building last week. As I approached the Laufhaus building there was loud rapping on a ground floor window to attract my attention and that of another punter but I could'nt see in the window. I ignored it and went into the Laufhaus. Reminded me of other cities(Brussels, Amsterdam maybe) where providers try to attract attention as you walk past windows.

[QUOTE=Fascination]The first girl is gorgeous but I can't see contact details listed anywhere on that site I haven't used it before, can someone help me out?[/QUOTE]I exchanged some emails with her. Her prices are 50 EUR for 30 min and 100 EUR for 60 min. Her extras are 20 EUR for french kissing and 40 EUR for anal. She has a homepage at
[url]http://evelineblack.oyla.de[/url] I didn't visit her so I cannot add a report.

I'll be in Berlin in a few days & my girlfriend's very excited to explore a fantasy about having a lap dance perfomed on her. While I watch, supervise, and assist. I am of the opinion that if she's going to have the dance, she should have the option of being able to touch and play if she is so inclined.

I don't think she'd be comfortable in a semi-bordello scene and it is important for her to be able to choose the woman for the performance.

I suppose we'd also be open to a swinger type of deal & we both are younger looking, hip. Yadda yaddya.

We would be most appreciative of advice for a few places to explore the lap dance or a place where perhaps in a swinger context, she and I could examine this fantasy.

Thanks in advance.

I dont want to over-generalize, there are exceptions, but street girls all over the world and certainly in Europe are like this. Minimal service as fast as possible. Most of the time its required to negotiate all details beforehand to avoid disappointment. In the brothels the service is kind of fixed also quality varies.
To get a girl from the street fulfill your fantasy you need to become very self confident address her directly with a price suggestion and the services you want and most importantly pay afterwards (or pay half of it afterwards and tell her this in advance). Sounds strange, but this is the way it works. I dont work the streets much, at worst bars, but in any place where things are negotiated freely such disappointments are common (had my own) and such are the rules.

[QUOTE=Unter]I am 23 year old guy living and working Berlin. I went to Oranienstrasse to pick up a prostitute tonight. I did not have to walk up and down the street too many times before I was solicited by a really hot girl. She said, "Do you want to go to my room? " (auf Deutsch). I responded "naturally, How much? " She said 50 for a BJ in park, 80 to go into a room.

Of course, I could not resist this offer of only 80 Euros to have sex with such a hot girl and hastily agreed. It was kind of (actually make that really) embarrassing to have to walk side by side with her until we got to the place where her room was, but whatever.

I only had a 100 Euros since I had two 50 EUR bills, so I asked if she could please give me change afterwards. She said that was fine. I knew there was a high likelihood I would never see those twenty EUR, but I still thought at the time 100 EUR to have sex with this girl is a bargain.

So I get naked and she gives me a massage. Meh, I hate these and never want them.

So then she gives me a HJ with condom! And, get this, fakes giving me a blowjob or at least I am 90% sure she was faking. It was really fucking weird. Anyone ever heard of a girl doing this? Can I request that she get down on her knees and let me stand? Why the hell do I always have to lie down and have them not look at me when giving me a BJ? Can't I ever receive one like they are meant to be received?

Anyway, then I'm about to cum so I tell her to please stop so that we can have sex. Her response shocked me: 150 EUR in order to have sex!

Since when did a ***** asking you to come into her room mean, "I will give you a handjob with a condom on and nothing more"?

I argued a bit, but could see I was getting nowhere so just sucked it up and told her to finish the HJ.

However, she was not done trying to swindle me.

She asked if I wanted to see her breasts. Of course I said yes.

I came about two minutes after this. However, as I was getting dressed, I reminded her of the 20 EUR she still owed me as change. She said she would change money as soon as she went downstairs.

Literally a minute later, though, she informs me that seeing her breasts costs 50 EUR normally, but because she is so generous she will only charge me 20! It was as though our previous conversation had never happened!

Anyway, is this typical behavior of Oranienstraße prostitues?

I'm not a very assertive guy, so is there a way for me to avoid having this happen to me in the future?

I got to admit, I like the idea of street prostitutes much more than brothels. The idea of seeing a really hot girl on the street and then having sex with her is much more of a fantasy come true for me than seeing a girl in as artificial a setting as a brothel.

Thanks for any advice on how to

A. Get a BJ while standing

B. Actually have sex with a street girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sanjay Dutt]Dear all,

Can anyone guide me for the best budget female comapnion. As I will be visiting by June. July. We are having expo there. So need good company with me. It will be for 3 days. The female partner can stay with me.[/QUOTE]Hi,

From your name I assume you are from India. I have been there and done that, but this is impossible in Berlin. If you are not good at picking up girls, forget this. They are not interested in staying with you. You can get good sex, but you have to pay by the hour/ half hour. In that you have a wide range.

[QUOTE=Mr Styles]Hi,

From your name I assume you are from India. I have been there and done that, but this is impossible in Berlin. If you are not good at picking up girls, forget this. They are not interested in staying with you. You can get good sex, but you have to pay by the hour/ half hour. In that you have a wide range.[/QUOTE]


I have to agree with Mr Styles though from your post I am not 100% clear what you are looking for. If you want a companion to stay the whole three days with you this will be expensive. Probably in the neighborhood of 3-4 thousand euros. You maybe could cut a deal with a cheaper agency but then I wonder if you could find a girl with whom you would want to spend three full days. The type of arrangement you seem to be after is probably more suited to somewhere like Thailand.

Any casual sex/Personals websites for Berlin? I know they had some magazines in the past, but it's been sometime since I've used them, I bet there must be something online.

[QUOTE=Sex Quest]Any casual sex/Personals websites for Berlin? I know they had some magazines in the past, but it's been sometime since I've used them, I bet there must be something online.[/QUOTE]


Well there are the usual dating sites that are basically the same the world over. "Free" sign up but then in order to actually contact anyone you have to pay. And there are a lot of time wasters on line.

The following is a German site for casual sex seekers. You do have to speak German or use a translator to navigate. There are plenty of pros on this site but they are clearly marked as having financial interest.

[url]http://www.poppen.de/home[/url]

Personally, after having spent way too much time in the past with this type of board, I kind f think it is just so much easier to go for the pros. But that is just me having not much patience for the game playing often found on dating sites.

You could also try plenty of fish-

[url]http://www.plentyoffish.com/[/url]

This is an actual free world wide dating site. I have a couple of N. American friends who use it with success there. I don't know how good their international pages are. Again, I suspect you have to wade through a lot of game players. But at least it is free.

I have reported here previously upon a couple of monstrously good sessions that I've had recently with Madeleine from this agency. Her unavailibility on Tuesday evening turned out to be a blessing in disguise in the person of Simona:

[url]http://www.Klein-zierlich. De/escortservice-berlin-simona.html[/url]

She, like her sister Madeleine, is a severly cute little thing, perhaps 5'2'' tall with a super-slim body and not 'an ounce of waste'. She is really pretty, with an engaging smile and lively personality. A friendly girl who knows how to enjoy herself in the sack (great combination)

Her kissing style is unusual. An open-mouthed 'technique' that is difficult to explain but reminiscient for me a an ex long-term girlfriend who kissed in the same way. I had just returned from a 5-hour (yes 5!) session with Selma at Artemis, so I wasn't really in best shape for a super-hot session with a 25 yr old hottie like Simona, but she managed to engender an encounter that will sustain me in my memory well into old age.

Her BJ technique is first-class, she loves to be licked out and has a sweet-tasting wet little pussy and is an energetic fuck with seemingly limitless energy. Maybe she is like this with all punters, but I suspect that we somewhat clicked together 'because she got really turned on too.

Three notes of warning:

1. Her price, like Madeleine's, is now also 120E plus travelling costs (up from 100E)

2. When she gets excited, she scratches. Hard!

3. She leaves in a month and may well not return. Get yours now, while stocks last!

Charlie

Hi,

I'm visiting Berlin for a few weeks, came across this great forum and would like to add my 2 cents.

I had a one hour session with Jenniffer at KD about a week and a half ago. I arrived without an appointment and was brought into their waiting room. Jenniffer, a cute petit blonde was the second girl I was introduced to, and upon seeing her I had to ask if she does the things I like. French kissing and two-sided oral. She answered in the affirmative, and we were away. What followed was probably the best GFE I've ever had.

Happy times indeed.

As many of you know, Wilmersdorf has more than its share of fine brothels like Kamilla Dee and Van Kampen. Royal is usually added to the list, and today I went for the first time. Gee, upsell for everything and shortened 15 minutes on a 45 minute stint with a girl named Chanelle.

Well for me there is no comparison between this place and the other places: it's undisciplined rip-off.

I previously reported a truly terrible, unsatisfying experience with a prostitute on Oranienburger Strasse. My misfortune then was partially my own fault: I didn't specify what I wanted, and I did not obtain verification as to what it was I was paying for.

This time my stupidity began right from the start as I picked up two girls instead of one! Considering how terrible I am at sex to begin with and my inability to even satisfy one girl let alone two, I simply do not know I was thinking! Actually, I know exactly what I was thinking: I was thinking that one of these two women, Clara, is the hottest prostitute I have ever seen in my entire life. Seriously, she's an incontestable 10. Or at least she has a very pretty face. Whether she uses multiple nicknames and would indentify herself as Clara if asked, I do not know. I will henceforth identify her as such, however, as it is the only name I have.

Anyway, so I made sure to specify this time what it was I was paying. I repeated more than a few times that I would be getting 160 EUR for sex. I didn't see how things could go badly this time as we had so clearly agreed on the price and what would take place.

Almost immediately upon entering the room the price went up to 200 EUR because they wanted drinks. My suspicions had been drawn, but I was still hopeful.

Then apparently I can get nothing unless I pay 500 EUR, I. E., 300 more. Apparently the sex they agreed to can mean a handjob even though I said outside I wanted standard vaginal intercourse. I foresaw this trick, took the necessary precaution, and they, nevertheless, still played it! It didn't matter at all what they had said beforehand. The ease with which they lied was slightly impressive.

Well, I thought to myself, this is totally ridiculous, but god damn it I've already spent 200 EUR (not yet recognized as sunk cost), there's no way I'm leaving until I have sex with Clara. Honestly, in my delusional frame of my mind, I earnestly believed that having sex with her would somehow fundamentally change my life. I figured that it would elevate me in some mysterious way above other men. I knew that once I had had sex with her, I would have slept with a hotter woman than well over 80% of guys. I don't know why this insane idea took hold of me and took away all my powers of logic and reasoning, but it did.

Actually, my agreeing to pay this extra 300 EUR fee was not my stupidest decision of the night. I actually gave the older, unattractive woman my debit card and pin number so that she could withdraw the 300 EUR from some cash machine upstairs. Honestly, I don't know what was going through my head. They were just giving me all these assurances about how prostitution is legal in Germany and how I had nothing to worry about that I assented without much deliberation. I still don't know whether or not they took more, but I have cancelled my card tonight. Rather inconveniently my bank, Sparkasse, does not allow a balance check until 6 A. M this morning, so I won't know until tomorrow the true extent of their dishonesty. I'm just hoping they didn't take more than 500 extra. I do wonder if I will have any legal recourse in the event that they took more than the 300 Euros we agreed upon.

After the undesirable one came back with the money, I got the same fake blowjob from Clara that I received with the last prostitute I picked up. Actually, to be fair I think she might have given me a partial blowjob, but it was total shit anyway. I asked if she could turn around so I could see her face, but apparently my 500 EUR didn't pay for the "girlfriend experience" so this was impossible. Hmm. When I finally got to have sex with Clara it was the biggest letdown of my life. Only one position, reverse cowgirl with me lying flat on the bed. It was horribly painful as she kept hitting my stomach on each penetration. I begged and pleaded to be allowed to try another position, but this would cost 800 more Euros! I need to pay it for both of them too, even though I had absolutely no attraction whatsoever to the other one. Honestly, she repulsed me with her boob job scars.

I really just don't get what the big deal would have been to let me have sex in a different position or to give me a regular BJ. I mean, once they knew they couldn't squeeze any more money out of me, why couldn't they provide me with at least a half-effort?

Suffice it to say, it was one of the most miserable experiences of my life. If you see an incredibly hot blonde girl with an older woman on Oranienburger Strasse RUN unless you are prepared to part with more than a 1000 Euros. Actually, I don't even know if that will buy you anything. I'm guessing you can keep paying them and paying them and you will get so little in return for each payment that you could wind up spending your entire savings and still not be able to have sex with her like a normal human being.

And then to top it off, at the end they were picking on me! It was a truly amazing, somewhat unbelievable experience. Honestly, while I was hurt by the things they were saying (you don't know how to please a woman, you are strange, what's wrong with you etc.), at the same time I did sort of feel like laughing as their gall was simply so incredible.

Here I had given them 500 EUR, and yet they were standing there bitching? Is it not part of their job to be good actors? I simply don't understand what they gained by this final display.

What's also kind of funny is that at the end is that the cleverer Clara opines that the next time I visit a prostitute it will be at Artemis. I responded that indeed I most certainly would be going there next time. Then the old one chimed in that many of the girls there have Aids. While the statement is incredibly stupid, she might have a point. Her and her partner Clara's decision to not have sex with their clients has probably provided them with considerable protection from STD'S.

I just hope I can spare other guys the pain I have experienced tonight. I don't know if this is their regular area, but at least tonight, they were directly across the park.

Please is there anyone who can help me? What should I do? I was able to access my details and they took 2000 EUR! Amazing that they still didn't give me the proper service knowing they had done this. I would greatly appreciate any help.

I went to the police today, but I am almost certain they will be of no help.

I seriously cannot believe how stupid I am sometimes.

What a costly mistake!

What is there to say Unter???

Before I read the details I felt kind of bad for you. But when I read that you gave your bankcard & pin number to a hooker to withdraw money....

The mind boggles at this stupidity.

Either this is some kind of joke you are bringing in here to the forum or you truly win the award for the punter most likely to think with his cock. Kiss the money goodbye and next time take the advice of the forum and go to a bordello.

That is all I have to say.

Sheeeesh.

One more word her Unter-as I reread your story I have to say a good part of me does not really believe it. Then I remember something I did way back when I was prowling the streets. I also lost a good deal of money (no where near 2000-more like 300 but it was 30 years back so it was significant) doing something equally as stupid. So don't feel too bad. It is an unfortunate part of the learning.

AM

[QUOTE=Unter]I previously reported a truly terrible, unsatisfying experience with a prostitute on Oranienburger Strasse. My misfortune then was partially my own fault: I didn't specify what I wanted, and I did not obtain verification as to what it was I was paying for.

This time my stupidity began right from the start as I picked up two girls instead of one! Considering how terrible I am at sex to begin with and my inability to even satisfy one girl let alone two, I simply do not know I was thinking! Actually, I know exactly what I was thinking: I was thinking that one of these two women, Clara, is the hottest prostitute I have ever seen in my entire life. Seriously, she's an incontestable 10. Or at least she has a very pretty face. Whether she uses multiple nicknames and would indentify herself as Clara if asked, I do not know. I will henceforth identify her as such, however, as it is the only name I have.

Anyway, so I made sure to specify this time what it was I was paying. I repeated more than a few times that I would be getting 160 EUR for sex. I didn't see how things could go badly this time as we had so clearly agreed on the price and what would take place.

Almost immediately upon entering the room the price went up to 200 EUR because they wanted drinks. My suspicions had been drawn, but I was still hopeful.

Then apparently I can get nothing unless I pay 500 EUR, I. E., 300 more. Apparently the sex they agreed to can mean a handjob even though I said outside I wanted standard vaginal intercourse. I foresaw this trick, took the necessary precaution, and they, nevertheless, still played it! It didn't matter at all what they had said beforehand. The ease with which they lied was slightly impressive.

Well, I thought to myself, this is totally ridiculous, but god damn it I've already spent 200 EUR (not yet recognized as sunk cost), there's no way I'm leaving until I have sex with Clara. Honestly, in my delusional frame of my mind, I earnestly believed that having sex with her would somehow fundamentally change my life. I figured that it would elevate me in some mysterious way above other men. I knew that once I had had sex with her, I would have slept with a hotter woman than well over 80% of guys. I don't know why this insane idea took hold of me and took away all my powers of logic and reasoning, but it did.

Actually, my agreeing to pay this extra 300 EUR fee was not my stupidest decision of the night. I actually gave the older, unattractive woman my debit card and pin number so that she could withdraw the 300 EUR from some cash machine upstairs. Honestly, I don't know what was going through my head. They were just giving me all these assurances about how prostitution is legal in Germany and how I had nothing to worry about that I assented without much deliberation. I still don't know whether or not they took more, but I have cancelled my card tonight. Rather inconveniently my bank, Sparkasse, does not allow a balance check until 6 A. M this morning, so I won't know until tomorrow the true extent of their dishonesty. I'm just hoping they didn't take more than 500 extra. I do wonder if I will have any legal recourse in the event that they took more than the 300 Euros we agreed upon.

After the undesirable one came back with the money, I got the same fake blowjob from Clara that I received with the last prostitute I picked up. Actually, to be fair I think she might have given me a partial blowjob, but it was total shit anyway. I asked if she could turn around so I could see her face, but apparently my 500 EUR didn't pay for the "girlfriend experience" so this was impossible. Hmm. When I finally got to have sex with Clara it was the biggest letdown of my life. Only one position, reverse cowgirl with me lying flat on the bed. It was horribly painful as she kept hitting my stomach on each penetration. I begged and pleaded to be allowed to try another position, but this would cost 800 more Euros! I need to pay it for both of them too, even though I had absolutely no attraction whatsoever to the other one. Honestly, she repulsed me with her boob job scars.

I really just don't get what the big deal would have been to let me have sex in a different position or to give me a regular BJ. I mean, once they knew they couldn't squeeze any more money out of me, why couldn't they provide me with at least a half-effort?

Suffice it to say, it was one of the most miserable experiences of my life. If you see an incredibly hot blonde girl with an older woman on Oranienburger Strasse RUN unless you are prepared to part with more than a 1000 Euros. Actually, I don't even know if that will buy you anything. I'm guessing you can keep paying them and paying them and you will get so little in return for each payment that you could wind up spending your entire savings and still not be able to have sex with her like a normal human being.

And then to top it off, at the end they were picking on me! It was a truly amazing, somewhat unbelievable experience. Honestly, while I was hurt by the things they were saying (you don't know how to please a woman, you are strange, what's wrong with you etc.), at the same time I did sort of feel like laughing as their gall was simply so incredible.

Here I had given them 500 EUR, and yet they were standing there bitching? Is it not part of their job to be good actors? I simply don't understand what they gained by this final display.

What's also kind of funny is that at the end is that the cleverer Clara opines that the next time I visit a prostitute it will be at Artemis. I responded that indeed I most certainly would be going there next time. Then the old one chimed in that many of the girls there have Aids. While the statement is incredibly stupid, she might have a point. Her and her partner Clara's decision to not have sex with their clients has probably provided them with considerable protection from STD'S.

I just hope I can spare other guys the pain I have experienced tonight. I don't know if this is their regular area, but at least tonight, they were directly across the park.[/QUOTE]

This is a joke, and a bad one, not the place to do it. Do not take this seriously, guy is being ironical, nobody is that stupid.

[QUOTE=Travelerb69]This is a joke, and a bad one, not the place to do it. Do not take this seriously, guy is being ironical, nobody is that stupid.[/QUOTE]

You may well be right. But then as I mentioned, I did do something that was pretty equally stupid when I was much younger and in pursuit of pussy. But as I have reviewed Unter's postings I think he goes now on my ignore list. If he is not careful he might just become a Darwin Award contender.

AM

[QUOTE=Travelerb69]This is a joke, and a bad one, not the place to do it. Do not take this seriously, guy is being ironical, nobody is that stupid.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely I agree with Trav 69: Nobody is that STUPID!!!!

Angus: Delete your RofD post! LoL

Unter
Maybe you have previously received a Darwin award

[url]http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2009-23.html[/url]

You need a performance coach or trip to the room of mirrors for a good look at yourself or both.
If this BS continues then you will be placed on our blocked lists.
BSK


[QUOTE=Unter]I went to the police today, but I am almost certain they will be of no help.

I seriously cannot believe how stupid I am sometimes.

What a costly mistake![/QUOTE]

I arrived to Schönefeld airport and directly tried to find the flatrate bordello close by, did not success. Went with S-bahn and U-bahn to my hotel at Bülowstrasse. Got out for short walk to see if there was any nice SWs, but it was obviously to early in the day for that. Decided to go to the next flat rate bordello on my "to do list", walked to King George.

It was actually a nice time, I had low expectations, but was proved wrong. For the money, 99euro, it was great payback. Hade sex whit 4 girls, two nice sessions and two so-and-so, but no bad session. The girls was young and with ordinary looks, all easteuropean. However it was impossible for me to repeat sessions with the god ones, they refused. I don't know why? Maybe because I always stayed the full time in room(30min). I think the girls preferred fast cumming clients?. And I wasn't the only guy there. There were 6 girls and maybe 5 men there on that Sunday. I stay for 4-5 hours and then got tired of the place and the cigarette smoke and was very hungry to. Got back to hotel for shower and out for early dinner. After dinner got a nice long walk around Schöneberg trying to decide my next move, stopped a couple of times for beer and finally decided to go back to hotel for early night. However now the SW started to show themselves so I look around and got a very nice BJ from a nice Czech girl I find outside the LSD building, 20Euro+5Euro for the "room" at LSD. Then goodnight.

Next day more sightseeing and planning my next move. At this time I realized that I wanted a more "classy" girl and the flat rate concept was out of question for that. I went to Monrouge at Leibnitzstrasse. And had a great 1 hour session with Sibil, 130Euro. (I was hoping for weekday specialprice, but that was not offered) But still a great session. After this I was quite satisfied and rest of my trip I drank beer and hade good meals. Next trip will be in October and Artemis is on top of the list.

Thank you all for posting and giving me god material to plan this trip. Special thanks of course to Angus Magee!

[QUOTE=Travelerb69]This is a joke, and a bad one, not the place to do it. Do not take this seriously, guy is being ironical, nobody is that stupid.[/QUOTE]
Travelerb69 and Ortos,

I believe Unter since I have been there too. I am labelled stupid and naive but I recovered and kept on going. It has not stopped me getting crapped on again but once again you try to learn the lesson and move on.

Unter, so sorry for your misfortunes man. I know where you are coming from. Angus Magee lost some cash in something similar and so have I a number of times. It does happen.

Just live and learn and hopefully the police can do something about it.

I read that you are a local. You will see these girls again and you can deal to them when you see them. Watch out for their muscle (pimps/managers) though.

I'll be in Berlin in the beginning of June for a week. Staying on the Ku'damm. What action is nearby? Any recommendations of some place close by the metro? Thanks

Its a long street ... try the map then provide some coordinates for more help.
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=100735334378007286437.0004626576cf59f6c8e21&ll=52.500967,13.384438&spn=0.161554,0.30899&z=12[/url]

[QUOTE=Dave Lamd]I'll be in Berlin in the beginning of June for a week. Staying on the Ku'damm. What action is nearby? Any recommendations of some place close by the metro? Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Styles]Hi,
From your name I assume you are from India. I have been there and done that, but this is impossible in Berlin. If you are not good at picking up girls, forget this. They are not interested in staying with you. You can get good sex, but you have to pay by the hour/ half hour. In that you have a wide range.[/QUOTE]

Three days might be impossible with bordello girls listed here, but if you use escort agencies it should not be a problem. I made a report a month or two ago about higher end agencies and Angus saved it in Reports of Distinction.

[QUOTE=Worldbank]One of my friends has recently been to Berlin and he is a guy who already naturally is good in picking up girls (without paying for them), but what he told me about Berlin. That's crazy!

He told me about the Berlin club-scene that you in a lot of big clubs but according to him it's almost like one big orgy, especially in the gothic & alternative clubs, that is is allowed to have sex in clubs and that they have special areas in the clubs where people have sex. According to him girls in Berlin are really extremely open-minded and sexually open.

Okay, this might be true, BUT are they really so open-minded as he described me?

So, is it a fairy tale or is it partially true?[/QUOTE]

Maybe you can find some clubs like that, but they are fetish clubs, as Angus noted. Otherwise it's not so easy I think, unless you have low quality standards. There are a couple of clubs / bars where you can get the working girls after they finish work and want to go drinking on weekends. The main one is First Club (maybe difficult entry if you dont dress smart and look like the girls will be interested in you or like you will spend 100s of €). Harry's New York Bar is known for this too and is really one of the only places in Berlin where you will feel uncomfortable without at least a sport coat. Also Newton Bar and Universum Lounge are probably worth a look for higher end freebies or part-time pros, but it's really hit and miss.

Hello, guys,

Being back in Berlin in early May for one week, almost a year after my last visit, I went to try the experiment of brothels. Your detailed posts have helped me choose my destinations (especially Angus posts), and I had in mind to go to Monrouge, Royal and KD. I was very pleased with this turn of events.

Firstly, Monrouge and Royal are quite similar, located in beautiful buildings, quiet neighbourhoods, their entrance is discrete, which is a positive element, being a bashful guy.

So, in my third night, way to MR, with a clear idea of my choice (I spotted three or four girls through their website, including Melissa and Adriana, and exchanged emails to their presence known)

Melissa (MR) from Romania: after ringing the bell and climbed on the first floor, I am greeted by a young hostess who takes me into a room and wonder if I have a girl that I want specifically. From my choices, only Melissa was there, and I thought to myself "lucky boy" when she entered the room, I realized she was even prettier in real life (she's really my type of girl, I like brunettes). I chose 45 minutes (100 euros + extra kisses) and I showered. After a brief discussion and then a massage, the session is started (BJ and sex), and it was a good time. She's really beautiful (it's my opinion), very sweet, she has a pretty face, a nice body, a cute smile, and I like her smell. The session ended, I left happy but also sad it's over (I would have stayed longer).

Jette (Royal): next evening, same situation (ringing, going upstairs), the hostess asks me who I want to see (I don't remember what the girls here, by the website, except Dareen but she's not there). Then, 3 girls come into the room (a big room decorated), one by one, and I chose Jette, pulpy with brown hair, because she seemed very smiling and pleasant, for 45 minutes (100 euros + extra kisses) including the shower. And it was a great GFE, because she's enthusiastic. And, despite the language barrier (she speaks mostly German), we exchanged a few words. So, Jette is lovable and great kindness, she's a funny girl.

Melissa (MR), one more time: while my objective was to go to KD, I haven't resisted too see Melissa again (I admit I thought about her a lot). So, destination MR, and luckily she's there, I didn't regretted. I chose the same length of session. After offering her a drink, we have much discussed. I was happy to have talked with her, even if the sex session was shorter. I like her very much (I think I like everything about her). So, I was sadder to leave.

Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.

One of you has he been in that case?

Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?

Finally, I long to come back in Berlin (I don't know when)

The Kid

[QUOTE=Kid Logy]
Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.

One of you has he been in that case?

Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?[/QUOTE]

Hi KL

Well...I could write a book about this. Actually, I am writing a book. Not specifically about falling for sps but the topic will certainly be included.

Briefly-as I see it this is part of the landscape. When you visit these girls a lot you are bound to come across one or two who stimulate the "love" chemicals in the brain. But one has to remember that for them it is a job. They might like you, even develop a certain affection for you if you are a repeat customer. But it is still a job for them. My best advise is to allow yourself the feelings but have no illusions about them being fully returned. And try not to lose your head over a working girl. These girls are working in an industry that basically sells illusion. Nothing wrong with illusion but if you try to grasp it in anyway it will disappear in a puff of smoke.

Nothing in this world is impossible. But making the leap from customer to bf (if that is what you want) comes under the heading of highly improbable. The way I have dealt with it mostly is to just visit the girl for as long as it seemed relevant and then stop. But in a couple of cases it was not nearly as neat as that.

If nothing else, heart ache is good for the soul.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi KL

Well...I could write a book about this. Actually, I am writing a book. Not specifically about falling for sps but the topic will certainly be included.

Briefly-as I see it this is part of the landscape. When you visit these girls a lot you are bound to come across one or two who stimulate the "love" chemicals in the brain. But one has to remember that for them it is a job. They might like you, even develop a certain affection for you if you are a repeat customer. But it is still a job for them. My best advise is to allow yourself the feelings but have no illusions about them being fully returned. And try not to lose your head over a working girl. These girls are working in an industry that basically sells illusion. Nothing wrong with illusion but if you try to grasp it in anyway it will disappear in a puff of smoke.

Nothing in this world is impossible. But making the leap from customer to bf (if that is what you want) comes under the heading of highly improbable. The way I have dealt with it mostly is to just visit the girl for as long as it seemed relevant and then stop. But in a couple of cases it was not nearly as neat as that.

If nothing else, heart ache is good for the soul.

AM[/QUOTE]Hello Angus,

It’s funny, I often write (stories, novels, and even scenarios movies), but it’s a hobby which gives me insomnia, despite my daily job.

Sometimes, may be, I’m a romantic guy, but I can’t control my feelings, and there is the problem. What makes me sad is that I don’t live Berlin, and I can’t be a regular customer. Even if I’m able to make a long journey from France to see Melissa again, regardless of the costs. I don’t when I’ll come back in Berlin, may be in few months. If I have opportunity, why not give her a gift (flowers, chocolate, I don’t know), just for gratification to do it, and for showing I like her very much. I make no illusions to become her boyfriend, it’s an unrealizable dream.

Cheers, and thanks for your insight.

[QUOTE=Kid Logy] If I have opportunity, why not give her a gift (flowers, chocolate, I don’t know), just for gratification to do it, and for showing I like her very much.[/QUOTE]


If I like a girl and have a good connection I will often bring her little gifts of chocolate or something. Funny thing is (and this has happened to me) it can back fire. One girl I had a big old crush on started doing things like giving me her private number and giving indications that she was interested in an outside meeting. After a few wrong turns though, and much heart ache for old Angus, it came out that she was just doing this as she felt she had to as I was being so nice to her. And obligated (her perception) contact is much worse than no contact at all IME.

All water under the bridge now and fodder for further tales. One thing to remember is that romance has the same root as your French word for "novel"="roman". Thus there is always a great deal of fiction in the story we tell ourselves about love. I always try not to take these things all that seriously as serious is the death knell of romance. Maybe that is why I like p4p so much?

[QUOTE=Kid Logy]Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.

One of you has he been in that case?

Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?

Finally, I long to come back in Berlin (I don't know when)

The Kid[/QUOTE]I have had recently a disturbing experience in this field, but with the reverse orientation.

There is a girl with whom I developed a rapport over a period, and the result was a series of sensational sex sessions over a period of months. I like her a lot, but I am a arch cynic in these matters and I could never conceive of myself falling for a girl who is, essentially, fucking me in return for money. 'Illusion' is absolutely the name of the game, and I am firmly resolved not to confuse it with reality.

We exchanged mobile numbers, mainly so that I could establish when she would be in town and to coincide at Artemis. As time went on, it became apparent that she had something of a thing for me. She repeatedly would tell me that she loved me and wanted to be with me. I had a myriad of offers to come and stay with her and meet her across Germany, without payment of course. Naturally, my first reaction was that I was being 'played', and that her professions of love were intended to cement her position as my preferred SP. I refused to delude myself that a 'working girl' could genuinely fall for a punter, especially a nondescript forty-something geezer of indeterminate looks such as myself.

Eventually, I became obliged to accept that this girl had genuinely fallen for me, however unlikely the case. I can't prove it in an empirical way, but I know that it's genuine. I have never given her any encouragement to suppose that my feelings for her extend beyond a preference for her as a sex partner, but the persistence in her affection led me to conclude that she had really fallen for me (god knows why!)

This engendered a problem for me that I haven't been able to properly resolve as yet. I feel bad for her. I am attached and unavailable, and in any event I would never form a relationship with a SP. Now I have to deal with her at Artemis in a delicate way. I still session with her when I see her there, but I spend most of my time trying to avoid her. Not because I don't still enjoy sex with her, but because I like her too much to take advantage of her infatuation with me.

Some of these girls are in relationships; some are even married. The majority of them however are alone, and somewhat vulnerable. Fucking 50 guys a week can play havoc with their emotional well-being. Just as many guys make the mistake of becoming emotionally attached to a pro, so do the girls very occasionally also become confused. Clearly this girl had failed to appreciate that the sexual chemistry between us was just that. Sexual attraction. Sure I liked her as well, but love?!!

I suspect that my prognosis will attract derisory responses that I'm kidding myself and that she's just been trying it on with me to see how fat my wallet is, but I assure you that I am not the type to delude myself in these matters.

The moral of the story to my mind is to ensure that one never gets too close to these girls, for their sake as well as one's own. Much better to maintain a respectful emotional distance, otherwise things get messy and somebody gets hurt.

Be careful out there, and enjoy the P4P scene for what it is, but if you want to fall in love then look elsewhere.

Charlie

Here is a report on three days in Berlin as thanks for the help this forum has given me.

Caligula

Caligula has received some criticism and doubts have been expressed about the place. I agree with those who question just what kind of service you can receive when taking advantage of the "30 euro for 30 minutes" offer. That was my question too, so I decided to take one for the team and go.

I was there twice in two days. Both were afternoon visits. For 30 euroes you get a red token with '30' written on it, and once you're in you simply go up to any girl on stage and hand her the token. She then takes you to a room, and the fun begins for 30 minutes.

Like I said I was there twice. Once on Friday for a normal 30 minute fun-ride with a Polish girl from Gdansk, 22 years old, slim, brown eyed, firm in all the right places and very good at what she does. Service was impeccable. She gave a great BJ (only with condom-she offered no extras, though extras are advertised in the room with prices and everything). And she gave a great performance of looking into my eyes, moaning at the right time, and cleaning me up afterwards. After sex we just lay naked on the bed at chatted until the half hour was gone. She was even fishing for me to ask her out the next day, as she was off work in the weekends, and had nothing to do. Had Saturday not been my last day, I would have definitely gone for it. She really was very sweet looking.

Second time was Saturday. I decided to go for a double header. Got two '30' tokens and chose two girls for a delightful half hour with more girl parts than I knew what to do with. I paid each a 10 euro extra for the BJ to be BBBJ. So get this, it's a total of 80 euroes for 30 minuttes with two girls who will do what you ask, and both give a BBBJ. That price cannot be beat! Got 10 minutes of BBBJ from the first (Rumanian, blond, about 30, small, very attractive body, so-so face, wears white lingeri) while I kissed the other on her breasts and ass, and then asked them to switch. Then after five minutes I got a condom on, then fucked the Rumanian blond for 6 or 7 minutes. And while I am doing this, she rolls over as much as she can, and starts kissing the other girl and licking her breasts. It took all I had to not come right then and there, but I still needed to fuck the second girl. So I switched condoms, and went for the second one. No hurry, the Rumanian still kissed and licked the girl I was with and she rolled around to a position so I could fuck one girl, and lick her pussy at the same time. Eventually I asked the Rumanian to get behind me, so that way I could fuck the girl on the bed, but have my hands behind my back feeling the other girls ass. All the while I was doing this the Rumanian girl was just laughing and smiling, having almost as good a time as me.

So all in all, Caligula for me gets a thumbs up. I haven't tried the entry fee and stay all day thing there, so can't say anything about the pressure for girls drinks. But the three girls I met were eager to please and certainly not upselling in any way.

King George

I went to King George my first night in Berlin. Sounded good on the forum, and I was not disappointed. There were, when I arrived on Thursday at about 20:00, nine girls and three men there. The girls were 1 undoable, 3 ok's, and 5 absolutely's. Not bad quality at all.

I paid 99 euro's and had sex with three girls in 4 hours. Each girl's service was great, though Polish Petronella and Austrian Klaudia deserve an extra mention. They were fantastic. Petronella, tall Polish girl with a killer body and sweet smile, has only been there 2 weeks, and was all over me. Total GF experience, apart from the lack of kissing.

Klaudia (well known on the forum) is a fun girl who likes to play, and if she likes you she will give you small kisses while flirting and fucking after you get to the room.

The last was a girl from the Dominican. She did try to upsell a girl drink, 25 euro, and then 10 euro to go DATY, but even though I rejected all she still gave me good service.

I would have had sex with the last to really attractive ones, but by 1 o'clock the place was getting crowded. I counted 25 men at one point, and still 9 girls. That isn't all bad, but it does get busy, and frankly I don't have the conscience to go ask a girl to go to a room when she just got out of one. So I decided to leave. Many men seem to go there for just one or two girls in 3 hours, however. So a lot of men isn't necessarily bad, but I would recommend showing up on a weekday at 18 o'clock. You will have a great time!

All BJ is covered, and the other girls have no problem with DATY at all. There are no extras and no BBBJ.

Overall an excellent place to spend an entire evening. Drinks include beer, soda, and alcohol like Jim Beam and mixers, and the girls are fun. Only bad thing: The music. It's half Rumanian half whatever and annoying as heel. The funny thing is, the girls want to start a party. Its like there is nothing that would please them more than for the men to join in the fun and dance around, but the music is impossible to get into for most people. I am 36 and love music, but I just could not dance to the kind of music they play.

L'amour

Tried to go early, but alas it was too early. They open at 13. So I didn't get to go. There is a small more seedy place right next door which is open at at least 11 in the morning. It was open when I was there, but I didn't go in as I had been hoping to get a beautiful girl (Susanne) at L'amour, and couldn't really imagine a girl of that class being in the place next door.

KFS40

I went passed there to check the prices and quality. At 3 in the afternoon there were only two girls there, and one looked like a Russian bowling champion. The other was a small, slim, dark (egyptian?) girl. She looked okay, but not my type. I was greeted with smile but when I said no thanks, the smile disappeared quickly. The black woman who had let me in was obviously pissed. It was 35 euroes for 20 minutes, but I excused myself and went to Caligula.

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I finally got a chance to try the Villa Rascona again. It's just off of Kufurstendam, not far from Adenauer platz. It's a whole private house and very elegant. You'll need to be well dressed because when they open the door they can decide whether or not you can go in. Once inside there are two bars downstairs and a sort of lounge area next to one of the bars with big sofas where you can sit and talk.

Both times i've been only one was open. Entry is 30€ which includes one drink. Next drinks are 20€. When you walk in some girls will immediately come to talk to you. For going in the room it's pretty expensive: 30min - 180€, 45min 255€, 60min 335€ The 45min and 60min prices include a half or whole bottle of champagne (whole bottle for 60min). The girl I was with told me a bottle is 250€ so the room + bottle is a good deal. I said so the bottle is 250€ and the girl 5€, she said nooooo... the girl is 250€ and the bottle is 5€. :-) However, I think the clock starts from the moment you get the bottle, but maybe that can be negotiated.

I was there very late on a Wednesday night and there were 2 German girls about 25yo and 30yo, One tall hot Hungarian, about 23yo, a Polish, about 35 and a Czech about 45. One guy had the younger German and the Hungarian with him when I walked in so I talked to the 30yo German who had a 7/10 face an a nice body. She was trying to get me to buy her a drink, but I resisted and finally i went for the 30min since she was non-stop touching and talking. So, went upstairs to the big room and had a very nice time. Upstairs she did kissing and cbj, but every position and lots of enthusiasm. She was probably one of the top 2 i've met in Berlin. 7.5/10 looks, 9.5/10 performance

When I went out I just went back into the lounge and sat down to finish my drink (needed to rest after the non stop upstairs) and the two younger girls came around and sat on both sides of me asking if I wanted two more girls. They were quite upset with the guy who had kept them for an hour or so drinking or talking downstairs but never chose one to go up. I was not so happy either because I wanted to try that Hungarian. Maybe next time!

So you guys who are thinking that you could get 3 cheaper girls for that price. Well you are right you can. But in my experience, most of those cheaper girls will be at least 2 times less satisfying, if only because they are all worn out, especially in places like Liberty or Artemis where they meet 10 guys per day. Other guys who prefer something a bit more exclusive and upscale will probably really like the Villa Rascona.

Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.

One of you has he been in that case?

Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?

Finally, I long to come back in Berlin (I don't know when)

The Kid[/QUOTE]


Some years ago, 2006, I went to a club in Berlin and almost immediatly after I came in I saw a very young girl - in fact she was just 18 - who tried desperatly to get rid of a fat Frankenstein, standing behind her seat and touching her without any permission. Of course I reacted like John Wayne : I took the seat beside her and faked a long time appointment. Successfully - Frankenstein disappeared. "Cora" and I had some drinks and a very nice and funny "session" ( extended version, directors cut), and this was the beginning of a long friendship.
Cora gave me her mobile-number, so when I had to go to Berlin I could ask her for a meeting. And soon I realized that I had more than the usual feelings - I surely was a little bit in love with her. At least. Being younger than unfortunately I am I would have asked to her to live with me in Denmark. Almost certainly she would have refused. But after a while she didnt want to take my money any more. So I looked for presents : a ring, a bracelet, some nice lingerie or dresses...
She used to pick me up in my hotel. We had dinner together, several times we went to the "Staatsoper", listening to Barenboim and his crew, we did a lot of talking about arts, philosophy, politics and history. And of course we had sex in the night. Cora was a beauty - intelligent, cultivated, tender. Today she is a student at "Freie Universität". She stopped escorting when she found her husband ( who ignores completely her activities before), but we still meet sometimes for a cup of coffee.
After all : I think the girls we meet in this kind of business are quiete normal. They do what they do for economic reasons. And as for moral : I certainly prefer to blame some bankers...

Hello Kid

You have the web from this site (Melissa, Jette).

I travel next month to Berlin, but its my first time.

thank you!

Dear fellow mongers:

Had some time to spare in Berlin, and initially wanted to try a different venue when I was told no-one was available there (Casanova); so I assessed my options, and decided to mosey on over to Harmonie (harmoniemassagen dot de). What a lucky draw! I opted for an hour with Mandy, a true Berliner in her early 20ies. We went off to a remote room in the building, reminiscent of an African Safari lodge. After I was shown a laminated menu (!) outlining all my options and rates, Mandy filled the jacuzzi, and we enjoyed our mutual company in the warm bubbles before relocating to the four-poster bed for some more B2B massage, rubbing and tugging, and a very pleasant time together.

We finished with a great footjob, but I am keen to try other side orders that were promised on the menu Harmonie would provide.

In conclusion, a very relaxing, professional and yet sensual experience. The location on Rigaer Strasse is a bit dodgy at night, but the proximity to the U-Bahn (Frankfurter Tor) makes arrival and departure by public transport easy and safe.

Danger of repeating: 110%.

Happy hunting!

Conn.

Hi guys,

Thanks for your replies. Your stories are interesting, giving a good overview of difficult situations when the feelings are there.

I have failings of my youth, like not control my emotions and my feelings.

When I come back in a few months in Berlin, I’ll quickly go to Monrouge to see Melissa again. I miss her already. But don’t worry; I’ll try to keep a cool head. Then, no one ever knows, life give us surprising fates.

The Kid

[QUOTE=Spain]Hello Kid

You have the web from this site (Melissa, Jette).

I travel next month to Berlin, but its my first time.

thank you![/QUOTE]Hello Spain,

As regards Monrouge (Melissa) and Royal (Jette), here’s their website.

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/[/url]

But there is no indication about girls’ presence. However, you can phone (both have phone number on the website). I have exchanged emails with Monrouge to determine the presence of the girls I wanted to meet. Otherwise after the session, if the girl you really like, you can ask her what are her hours of attendance for the next few days (In my case, I asked Melissa, to see her again).

The Kid

Visited Berlin in February and thought I'd share some experiences here.

EKSTASE MASAGE

Decided to start my first day with a erotic massage and landed on Ekstase Massage which is located in Friedrichschain and easily reaced by the U5. (Samariterstrasse) Booked an apointment with Elena:

[url]http://www.ekstasemassage.de/html/elena.html[/url]

Went for the 30 minutes erotic massage for 60€. I was also offered a greek massage but politely declined. Short massage booked as said so it was not very long before it was time to turn around and I could see her naked body. She does have a fine pair of tits. She oiled her hands and my cock. Oil warm and tingling when first apllied but then it wears off a bit. (the warm feeling) I ran my hands over her body over the areas the angle permitted me... ass when she moved sideways and tits when she was up front. There was not much sound and no "sexy smiling looks" from her though. (She had that more "serious" or professional look) At one point I had her ass and pussy straight in my face in the 69 position. But no oral allowed (made clear on the site) and I did not press my luck but instead used a finger on her pussy, and felt she was getting wet. She took my cock between her tits, some bit of spanish, then had to take a short break as not to come too quickly. Some more hand and titswork and I came, really not in the best angle. Had my cock pointing up and backwards so it really didnt soak her tits like I wanted to. She dried me up and told me to lay there as she went out and came back after a short while continuing the massage. Asked if i wanted more massage to my cock, which was a nice gesture of her I find. As it wasnt long since the last pop it didnt result in anything though and I was still drained so no matter. All in all nice body and some good positions (like having her pussy in my face) but she was very quiet and when I looked at her during the massage she had a bit of a distant look if you ask me, no smiles or sparkles/ livelyness. But this is just my interpretation. Others may experience it differently of course. She never rushed things though. Another shower, kiss on the cheek and aufwiedersehen.

TIFFANY

[url]http://www.ritter11.de/[/url]

Went off to Tiffany (located in Kreuzberg) with Pia and Chantalle in mind.
Arrived and was buzzed in. Walked all the floors up to 4th floor (actually there is a elevator too but guess I was a bit absent minded ;) There was quite a few in the parade. Maybe 6. Not bad. But I was focusing on just waiting until Pia arrived or until Chantalle presented herself. Nope, they were not there. The parade had ended but since I was focused on only those two I could not remember the names of any of the girls who presented themself! Yikes. Some I didnt catch either, as they said it too fast and they were coming straight after another. Pia it turned out was there but booked out whole day. Schade. Chantalle was free in 1 hour so made a booking before strolling around in the cold until it was time to return.

A sun-tanned and cheerful Chantalle received me.

[url]http://www.ritter11.de/bordell-girls/chantalle.php[/url]

She is of the very chatty kind, chats constantly, smiling. Its quite a huge establishment and bit of walking to our room. Brought my applejuice and she told me she would be right back. I had to ask myself for a shower though. This is something which I find a bit strange about Tiffany. I've met 3 girls there and neither have asked me if I wanted shower first, so obviously its not routine to be offered a shower.

Started out with her lightly clothed (which I prefer as opposed to her coming into the room already naked or just strip out quickly) with bit of snuggling and feeling eachother up. Lots of sound, too much for my liking (since it feels like an act) Rubbed her tits and licked her nipple. Felt her pussy, and rubbing her clit it was wet. Slided a finger in easily and she made the constant mmm ahh sounds and some verbal encouragement. She got on her kneees with me sitting on the bed with bit of a bbbj. Was OK but I found her blowjob skills not being of the best. Time for fucking and started with missionary. I wanted to finish with facial as this was mentioned in her profile she provides it. But when I asked her as we settled the cash in the beginning she said she didnt do it, but that I could cum on her tits. As an important reason for picking her was that I wanted to finish splashing her face this was naturally a disappointment. All in all a friendly experience but a bit too chatty and fake sounds to my liking. I would preferred it more “low key”, but that’s just me.

Hello Guys,

I'm planning a short trip to Berlin. Anyone has any info regarding geile modelle. I will contribute when i'm back.

[url]http://www.geile-modelle.de/girls.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Jes007]Hello Guys,

I'm planning a short trip to Berlin. Anyone has any info regarding geile modelle. I will contribute when i'm back.

[url]http://www.geile-modelle.de/girls.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

Hi Jes,

I have no personal experience but the German forums always seem to give the agency pretty positive press. I seem to remember some exceptions (no specifics sorry) but a few of the girls are reviewed favorably and the agency itself seems to care about repeat business.

A word of caution though-a number of the girls on this site are said to offer bareback service at a premium.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Jes,

I have no personal experience but the German forums always seem to give the agency pretty positive press. I seem to remember some exceptions (no specifics sorry) but a few of the girls are reviewed favorably and the agency itself seems to care about repeat business.

A word of caution though-a number of the girls on this site are said to offer bareback service at a premium.

AM[/QUOTE]

Thanks Magee, Unfortunately I missed the flight. However I checked with the agency and at least 4 of the girls will do bareback for additional fee. I checked with two other agencies and it seems like this is a common phenomena.

[QUOTE=Jes007]I checked with the agency and at least 4 of the girls will do bareback for additional fee. I checked with two other agencies and it seems like this is a common phenomena.[/QUOTE]

It is absolutely not common practice. It does go on. While some might argue, well this is a matter of personal choice on both sides, it is simply not.
It increases risks significantly for all of us (not only AIDS but a range of STDs) and it is the last thing any of us, or providers need. The practice should be avoided like the plague it is, and the agencies that tolerate it should also be avoided IM not so HO. I wish it were otherwise, and I hate condoms as much as anyone. I have a good friend who is a Doctor working in the university AIDS clinic in Frankfurt and the stories are not pretty. Some things you mess with, some you just don´t. This is really a protect the community thing.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]It is absolutely not common practice. It does go on. While some might argue, well this is a matter of personal choice on both sides, it is simply not.
It increases risks significantly for all of us (not only AIDS but a range of STDs) and it is the last thing any of us, or providers need. The practice should be avoided like the plague it is, and the agencies that tolerate it should also be avoided IM not so HO. I wish it were otherwise, and I hate condoms as much as anyone. I have a good friend who is a Doctor working in the university AIDS clinic in Frankfurt and the stories are not pretty. Some things you mess with, some you just don´t. This is really a protect the community thing.[/QUOTE]

Hi RB,

First of all let me say that bbfs (bareback full service) is not something I personally look for. But as I am interested in all aspects of this hobby I do keep tabs on what goes on in the community. And I think BBFS is a lot more common than you think. The German forum I frequent even has a thread specifically dedicated to "Alles Ohne". I guess it depends upon your definition of commonly available. For my purposes it means that it would be easy to find were I to want it. And it is-from agencies, a number of bordellos and even the street girls of Bülowstr. As crazy as it may seem to many there are those that seek it out with enthusiasm. It is even available, I am told by a girl who works in the industry, at some(not all and not the ones that are commonly discussed here) higher establishments. In fact it can be even more available there and even insisted upon by the establishment as a condition of working there. This is what my source tells me.

My own view on BBFS is that it probably shouldn't go on. But it does and this is a fact. So what to do? First of all I guess you can avoid the agencies and bordellos where it is relatively openly practiced. But then you need to figure out which one these are and unless you have access to the German forum (not so easy to join) there is little info out there. The bordellos and agencies do not really openly advertise the services (as AO) , rather they use code words like "Full Service Model" and "alles möglich". But one is never really sure. This I get from reading the German AO thread. Many models are said to provide it but then someone will post that they were refused. I guess it is always very much a YMMV thing and the girls do not provide it to all customers.

It seems to me that the most important factor when hobbying is to protect yourself. This is not just as a selfish act (I'm okay so who cares about anyone else) but as a sign of respect to the girls and the community. I guess my point is that if you make sure to wear a condom yourself then you protect yourself, the girl and anyone else who might use the girls services, as well as, anyone ese you might come into sexual contact with i.e. partners.

And while I am at it I could just mention that while so many of us prize the experience of bbbj, I do wonder how many of us are fully open with our other partners about this activity? Of course we tell ourselves that bbbj is perfectly safe, but then if we are not honestly fully disclosing with our other partners, then are we not making this somewhat tenuous decision for them? Without even their knowledge or consent. And in fact there certainly are STDs one can easily catch from bbbj and unwittingly pass to a partner. And HPV, which really is not protected against with condom use at all, is linked to certain types cancer, a life threatening condition if ever there was one, in both men and women. I say this not to admonish anyone, merely to bring it a little into the open and say what is often left unsaid.

My experience with Canadian forums is that those who seek or provide bbfs are vilified and even harassed beyond imagining. This is the mob mentality at work as I see it. If we make these guys & girls the bad ones, then all of "us" are the good ones-defenders of morality and safety. In fact this harassment and vilification just serves to drive the practice underground and further into the shadows where it can actually do more harm than if it was openly discussed.

I know HIV & AIDS are conditions that have had a deep effect on the planet this past thirty or so years-many have died. I myself have had a number of friend & colleagues who fell to AIDS.The sex industry is a place where, as a participent, one needs to be extra careful just because of the numbers. I am all for this care and extra protection. But in the end I do participate in the industry and I accept what risks are there. I am open with other partners (though to be honest there have not been that many these past few years so I have not really been tested here-and my openness has not always been so in the past) about what I do. For me this is all I can do and still sleep well at night.

Thanks fror listening

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi RB,

First of all let me say that bbfs (bareback full service) is not something I personally look for. But as I am interested in all aspects of this hobby I do keep tabs on what goes on in the community. And I think BBFS is a lot more common than you think. The German forum I frequent even has a thread specifically dedicated to "Alles Ohne".
AM[/QUOTE]

Angus me lad - agree, all points, as always. And you are surely right on the bbbj scene - a grey area that I know I personally just gloss over. But there is a difference between playing Russian Roulette with 1 bullet, and 5. I never frequent the agencies, precisely because I know it does go on. In the good bordellos, the rules are clear and this offers reasonable protection for all. (Let´s face it, otherwise given what we all know it going on, Berlin´s population, perhaps all of Europe itself, would be half of what it is!). But I still say given what we know, indeed after 30 years, it is nuts to go bareback, and it puts us all at risk. I say this not in a shrill way - just factual.

And there is another aspect; as you are a student of human sexuality above all else, you know there are people doing this as a kind of extra thrill (excluding other more sinister motives, which you can easily hear of if you have ever talked with our provider partners). In any case, it´s just not worth it, and I do believe it´s part of being responsible to all sides not to.
`Nuff said...

Just tried Liberty and Denise. Looks stunning until you get close then you see the bad hair roots, moustach and 5 days old shave on psy. Bought an hour was finieshed after 20 min could stand the fake moaning and oo nice yes yes thingy.

Thinking of artemis tomorrow or monrougy to try the new Russian girl. Was there this morning but no one could speak enligsh so I bailed.

I have been to Berlin once. Visited Freudenhaus Hase, very nice experience. Girls don't look to much at the clock, and are very kind without that fake "oh yeah yeah" tha personally turns me down. Had a session with a EE girl, body 8, service 8. CBJ and sex in few positions, no hurry.

Then visited Liberty (one year ago) twice. Once I chose a german girl with great body but very mechanical (came after 10 minutes, getting bored), and once a black girl, opting for a one hour session (beautiful experience, no hurries, body 8, service 9).

That is about my experience. I wanted to ask two questions

A) The flat rate brothels like Caligula: how many girls effectively are there t choose from? And how many clients? Can you REALLY have as much sex as you want for the rate, or you need to pay extra drinks, etc?

B) Nasty point: does anybody know about hiv prevalence in berlin prostitutes, or has some advice on "safer" or "more dangerous" places?

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]

That is about my experience. I wanted to ask two questions

A) The flat rate brothels like Caligula: how many girls effectively are there t choose from? And how many clients? Can you REALLY have as much sex as you want for the rate, or you need to pay extra drinks, etc?

B) Nasty point: does anybody know about hiv prevalence in berlin prostitutes, or has some advice on "safer" or "more dangerous" places?
[/QUOTE]


Hi Kasper,

I can not say how many girls work the floor on any given night at Caligula. But the deal is that you can have sex as many times as you want upon paying the entry fee. Of course if this actually is honored is anyone's guess. But I can not see them really kicking you out for having too much unless you act like an asshole or something. I think at such a club you have to be polite and reasonable and they will take care of your needs.

As for your second question-have a look a few posts back for a short discussion on bare back sex in Berlin. For the purposes of visiting pros one needs just to assume that there is a degree of risk. Wearing a condom cuts this risk significantly. End of story. And street girls are higher risk if you don't wear a condom simply because they are more likely to have other customers not wearing a condom. Also is is probably easier to find bare back in a small, sleazy Neuköln brothels than a well established Willmersdorf brothel. So there is a greater risk-if you go bare back. If you wera a condom your good to go.

AM

I was in Berlin this past week and got to sample. My hotel was on Ku'damm so walking distance was my radius.

SW

I found this report in my research. Forgive me for not using the quote function, but I can't seem to find it now, so I'm pasting from what I had saved for reference (BTW, thanks to all for posting. This is one of the most active folders I've found here, and it a wealth of info). It's pretty accurate.

"ISF SW: Further down the road on Einemstraße (Nearest U-Bahn Nollendorfplatz) is where the real talent is for girls in this area. They will line up along Einemstraße up until Lützowplatz and just on the corner of Einemstraße and Kurfüstenstraße (This is the Western end – don’t get confused – you should see an Einstein Café on this end of the street). Prices here range from 50 - 150 Euros for blowjob and full sex. The girls are dressed up with bustiers, garter belts, knee-high boots and not much else. It is quite a sight and many of them are really honestly beautiful. The girls found in the other areas I have mentioned above just dress in normal clothes, some regular and some pretty stunning. Most of the girls on Einemstraße will want to go the Pension Stockholm and the Alsterhof on Eisenacherstraße as explained above where the price is 12 Euros. Some may want to go somewhere just off the Kurfürstendamm which is clean, small and romantic with music and always a drink included. I don’t remember the exact location.

The streets and areas mentioned above are very dangerous and it is common knowledge that even the Police do not like going working around there. This is not due to the Prostitutes but due to the problem of drugs and the high population of Turkish people living here. Just be sensible and if you are walking around just take the cash that you need and keep your hands in your pockets. Look for a girl and do the business, don’t get into any trouble. I don’t mean to scare you, just making you aware as this area has a reputation so caution should be taken at all times."

Comments. Whoever wrote this was right. It's worth it to take a look at the girls on Einemstraße just to see them. I've seen a few *****s in my day, but this is over the top. I didn't try any of them, but did talk. Price right now is 70. It's hit or miss, sometimes they are there, sometimes not. I don't know if it has anything to do with cops coming by.

Twice I partook in the SW on between Bulow str between Einemstraße and Potsdamerstr. Price and quality goes down the further away you get from Einemstraße. Both girls were Hungarian. First one, Kira, was a definite non-repeat. 50 for CBJ (not to completion), DATY and fuck. Her BJ was so worthless, I couldn't even get it up enough to fuck. Second, was a tall brown haired girl, I saw her after my session with Kira, and she was the reason I went back. Anka looked like she has a great body in her SW clothes, but when she took them off, it was obvious she had had kids--stretch marks everywhere, and her small breasts were saggy. I was encouraged when we started DFK, BBJ was good. DATY (I kinda got the impression she'd go uncovered--DON'T. There was some funkiness about that pussy). Shagged her in every position, but it wasn't inspired. 60 euro spent (50 for service, 10 for room). If money is an issue, this wasn't bad.

Gangbang

Found this add in my research: [url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Event/Gangbang-Berlin-13527.html[/url]

25 euro? Why the hell not?! This was my first GB experience. The woman, Silke was in her 40's fake tits, nice body. About 20 guys. It was filmed, no release forms or anything, but you know you're gonna end up on the net, so bring a mask. She performed magnificently. Deep throat, face fucking. Only vaginal covered, no anal. You gotta wait in line, although alot of those 20 guys were just sitting around watching. Finally got my turn, fucked her a little, and then 3 of us came on her face right in a row. It was classic. I would definitely do this again.

Monrouge.

The highlight of my time. Maya. [url]http://www.monrouge.de/maya_neu.html[/url] She wasn't my first choice (Celine was, but she doesn't do CIM). But boy I'm glad I chose her. No entrance fee. 70 euro for 30 min. BBBJ & CIM available (and extra depending on the girl). They take you to a room, and then the girls come in 1 at a time, and after you pick. 9 girls available at 23:00 on a Friday. Bulgarian Maya was great. DFK, deep throat, face fucking, fantastic body (fake tits). DATY which she enjoyed since her pussy got wet (I can tell the difference between pussy juice and my own saliva). Enthusiastic. Definite repeat. I should have gone back there in stead of the SW Anka. Oh well.

Again, I want to thank all of you who contribute to this forum. You make it very informative, made my trip to Berlin much more enjoyable. This is what it's all about right here. Good luck and good hunting.

Hi all,

I saw this escort agency on another thread and on visiting the site was blown away by some of the girls. Especially this one:

[url]http://www.greta-brentano.com/#kristina_nilsson.php[/url]

I wonder if any of our friends in Berlin (Angus perhaps?) have hired this girl and can report back or, if not her, any other girl from this agency? It seems like a real top notch escort agency and, though rather expensive on first appearance, if you work it out *per hour* it is not much more than an hour with a girl in an FKK per hour (including one extra such as CIM for example).

OK, a 1000 euros is a hell of a lot of money to drop in one day (6 hours in fact) but six hours of sex play is a lot.

I'd love to get some feedback because i've decided that, all things going well, I'm going to book this girl on my next visit to Berlin but don't want to blow that sort of money on a scam or subpar service.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006]Hi all,

I saw this escort agency on another thread and on visiting the site was blown away by some of the girls. Especially this one:

[url]http://www.greta-brentano.com/#kristina_nilsson.php[/url][/QUOTE]I have also in recent weeks been intrigued by this agency's website. They appear to be pitching themselves in at the top end of the spectrum, and their girls all look appealing, especially for those punters who prefer ladies, as the French say, 'd'un certain age'.

If it were me, I'd be more inclined to attempt to try them out with a 1 or 2 hour appointment before committing to spending 1000E, just in case they turn out to be crap. But they don't seem to offer anything less than an 'overnighter', so they seem to be minded to eschew such business.

If you do decide to do untertake a trial experiment on behalf of us all, please be kind enough to post a full report on your experiences as I for one would be terribly curious to know more

Thx

Charlie

[QUOTE=Dave Lamd]I was in Berlin this past week and got to sample. My hotel was on Ku'damm so walking distance was my radius......

.....Again, I want to thank all of you who contribute to this forum. You make it very informative, made my trip to Berlin much more enjoyable. This is what it's all about right here. Good luck and good hunting.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report Dave. Some interesting stuff here, particularly the Gang Bang which sounds a real Berlin Bang.

Interestingly enough I just discovered on the German forums that Mon Rouge and Berlin's most expensive bordello, Bel Ami has a new-ish location in the center of Berlin, on the ground floor of MR's Liebnizstrasse location. I have not yet been able to determine if the two are also connected by management but it does seem likely. I will keep you all posted here if I find anything out about this connection.

Here is the Liebnizstr. location website.

[url]http://www.belami-berlin.de/[/url]

It is really one of the most useless websites ever giving only the address & contact details. But then that does seem to go along with Bel Ami's general reputation of not really giving a shit about customers unless they are ready to drop the big bucks.

AM

If I do end up trying this agency out i will def give you fellow ISGers a full detailed write up. The shortest they offer is I think 4 hours for 700 euros.

The two girls I fancy the most are both minimum 6 hour bookings!

Watch this space!

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]I have also in recent weeks been intrigued by this agency's website. They appear to be pitching themselves in at the top end of the spectrum, and their girls all look appealing, especially for those punters who prefer ladies, as the French say, 'd'un certain age'.

If it were me, I'd be more inclined to attempt to try them out with a 1 or 2 hour appointment before committing to spending 1000E, just in case they turn out to be crap. But they don't seem to offer anything less than an 'overnighter', so they seem to be minded to eschew such business.

If you do decide to do untertake a trial experiment on behalf of us all, please be kind enough to post a full report on your experiences as I for one would be terribly curious to know more

Thx

Charlie[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Just signed up - I'm a massage aficonado. My future posts will probably reflect this.

So, yesterday, fancied a good, tantalising session and headed down to Mandala massagen, on Sonnenallee. I had been here before once and had the most fantastic time with a sweet, coltish young lady, all limbs, nervous giggles and reddish hair. This time round, she wasn't there, which was a shame, but I chose the plump, redhead Jana for an hour's tantra and, according to the manager, an ending of HR, CBJ or 'Spanish'.

Have to say this was one of the most sublime massages I have ever had - Jana had me on my front and slowly moved her plump little hands all over me, tickling and teasing here, sweeping and stroking there in tantalising, occasionally electrifying strokes. She was delicious too - plump, with splendid low-hanging pink-nippled boobs that she oiled up and smushed all over me and was happy to have squeezed, licked and sucked. However, any further ideas were quashed, as legs remained tightly clamped throughout.

The final HR was volcanic, following a long, long, lovely build-up, using fingertip tickling and teasing to firm bold strokes. However, only disappointment was the lack of oral (as offered when I arrived), with Jana merely shaking her head politely when I asked. Still, for a massage that will leave you truly, happily drained and limp, she's well worth a visit.

[QUOTE=Iggypup]Hi all,

Just signed up - I'm a massage aficonado. My future posts will probably reflect this.

So, yesterday, fancied a good, tantalising session and headed down to Mandala massagen, on Sonnenallee. I had been here before once and had the most fantastic time with a sweet, coltish young lady, all limbs, nervous giggles and reddish hair. This time round, she wasn't there, which was a shame, but I chose the plump, redhead Jana for an hour's tantra and, according to the manager, an ending of HR, CBJ or 'Spanish'.

Have to say this was one of the most sublime massages I have ever had - Jana had me on my front and slowly moved her plump little hands all over me, tickling and teasing here, sweeping and stroking there in tantalising, occasionally electrifying strokes. She was delicious too - plump, with splendid low-hanging pink-nippled boobs that she oiled up and smushed all over me and was happy to have squeezed, licked and sucked. However, any further ideas were quashed, as legs remained tightly clamped throughout.

The final HR was volcanic, following a long, long, lovely build-up, using fingertip tickling and teasing to firm bold strokes. However, only disappointment was the lack of oral (as offered when I arrived), with Jana merely shaking her head politely when I asked. Still, for a massage that will leave you truly, happily drained and limp, she's well worth a visit.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the report Iggy. I was at Manadla on time some years back and remember a good, but not spectacular massage. But then I chose the girl by looks and not by reputed massage skill. My only complaint about this place is that I have shown up a couple of times within opening hours (again a couple years back) only to have no one answer the door. As it is a little out of my way I stopped even trying. But after your report Jana certainly sounds tempting. I also hear Ekstase is a good massage establishment as is Harmonie.

[url]http://www.ekstasemassage.de/html/team.html[/url]
[url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/[/url]

If you like a more authentic Tantra experience, albiet one where you will get no oral or titty suckling you can try Kashima

[url]http://www.kashima.de/en/tantra-berlin.html[/url]

AM

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/maya_neu.html[/url]

I have reported here before a few times about girls from Monrouge, including Jasmin, Nicky, Bella, Katherine and others. I had always lusted after the photos I'd seen of Maya, but for one reason or another I had never had the pleasure of her acquaintance until this week. She travels a lot and is relatively rarely in Berlin, so I was delighted to discover that she would be in residence during my trip to Berlin this week.

All i can say is, 'JEEZUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!!!'

Firstly, her body is just to die for. She is tall with huge soft tits, silky-smooth skin, a slim figure, pretty face (generic EE blond) and fabulous legs. 'Sex on legs' is I believe the expression. For someone (like me) who adores the busty MILF physique, she is the identikit stunner.

She is also a super lass; intelligent, funny with a very personable character. Best of all, she is an amazing performer in the sack.

Kissing, sucking, caressing and fucking - an hour of total pleasure that ranks amongst the greatest sexual experiences of my life.

She was so great I had to go back the next day for a repeat showing, which was every bit as good as the first (better actually, 'cos any doubts I'd had first time were totally absent and I was just able to enjoy the occasion)

I know that many of the guys on here have already had the pleasure with Maya before, and to those who had previously encouraged me to try her out, I offer my heartfelt gratitude. For those who haven't yet been with Maya, and especially those who like big-titted blondes, I can only repeat the advice I myself was given, and implore you to take advantage of one of the greatest sex experiences that the city has to offer.

I just wish that I could have taken her home with me - what a girl!

Cheers,

Charlie

Another spectacular session with this little cracker.

I've expounded her virtues here several times before, so no need for details. Just a quick note to say that she has gone home for the summer as of today, but will apparently be back in September.

She had previously told me that she wouldn't be returning to Germany, so the suggestion that she will indeed be back is very good news indeed.

Charlie

[QUOTE=D Cups]Superb boobs! How much does a girl like this cost? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Basic rates at MR are 130 for the hour, 70 for the half. I am not sure exactly of the extras costs but I believe CIM is 30 Euros and bbbj (no CIM) is 20. I could be wrong on the extras.

They do have a daytime, weekday (arrive before 16:00)special of 100 for the hour but there is no guarantee that you will find the girl you want there in the day. The daytime staff tends to be light-that is not many girls work the day shift.

AM

[QUOTE=D Cups]Superb boobs! How much does a girl like this cost? Thanks.[/QUOTE]70E for the standard half-hour, plus I paid 40+20+10 for various extras. Total price was 140E, which I rounded up to 150.

Quite expensive on an hourly basis, but for a girl like this, no price would be so high as to put me off.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]They do have a daytime, weekday (arrive before 16:00)special of 100 for the hour but there is no guarantee that you will find the girl you want there in the day. The daytime staff tends to be light-that is not many girls work the day shift.

AM[/QUOTE]Well, I am not sure about the 100 euro special, I was thera om a monday around 14:00 and was not offered any special price. But I did not ask for it, maybe I should. But it didnt feel right to start argying(spelling?) about prices.

E65

[QUOTE=Elve65]Well, I am not sure about the 100 euro special, I was thera om a monday around 14:00 and was not offered any special price. But I did not ask for it, maybe I should. But it didnt feel right to start argying(spelling?) about prices.

E65[/QUOTE]

I guess I should have qualified that with the fact that I have not visited MR for over a year now. So maybe they do not have this offer anymore. But then they never did advertise the offer anywhere. I just was told upon visiting one time that this was the price on weekdays before 16:00. Then whenever I made a booking for that time I would check the price with the phone girl and was always told this is the price. Maybe it is something they offer to regulars (for a while I was a regular 1 or 2 times per month guest) but do not volunteer to one time visitors?

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee] Maybe it is something they offer to regulars (for a while I was a regular 1 or 2 times per month guest) but do not volunteer to one time visitors?

AM[/QUOTE]I hope you are right, and I think you are. i got that feeling that MR take care of theire regulare customers. For myself, living in Sweden effectivly stops me from being that. This was my second visit in 16 months.

E65

[QUOTE=Elve65]I hope you are right, and I think you are. i got that feeling that MR take care of theire regulare customers. For myself, living in Sweden effectivly stops me from being that. This was my second visit in 16 months.

E65[/QUOTE]


Never the less, if you visit again I would just ask about the special. I sort of got the impression that the discount was available to anyone who knew to ask. They just do not volunteer it unless they see you coming back as a regular.

AM

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]70E for the standard half-hour, plus I paid 40+20+10 for various extras. Total price was 140E, which I rounded up to 150.
[/QUOTE]

As I now remember bbbj (no cim) was 30 so I think bbbjcim would go for 40.
I used to visit Adriana regularly and pay the afternoon rate of 100 plus 30 for bbbj. Kissing I got for free after the first couple of sessions ;) This is how I like it-kissing because she wants to, not because I gave her 10 extra euros.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thanks for the report Iggy. I was at Manadla on time some years back and remember a good, but not spectacular massage. But then I chose the girl by looks and not by reputed massage skill. My only complaint about this place is that I have shown up a couple of times within opening hours (again a couple years back) only to have no one answer the door. As it is a little out of my way I stopped even trying. But after your report Jana certainly sounds tempting. I also hear Ekstase is a good massage establishment as is Harmonie.

[url]http://www.ekstasemassage.de/html/team.html[/url]
[url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/[/url]

If you like a more authentic Tantra experience, albiet one where you will get no oral or titty suckling you can try Kashima

[url]http://www.kashima.de/en/tantra-berlin.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks Angus. Yes, I have been to Harmonie a few times, although not for some while now. The first time, which must have been over a year ago was awesome. A tall, thin dark-haired girl (stars tattooed on her belly)with excellent English who played about with me in the jacuzzi, before repairing to the bed. There, as it rained outside, we abandoned the massage for lots of sleepy cuddling, petting and gentle kissing. A fantastic afternoon.

The next time wasn't that great, rather perfunctory. Brisk and rather emotionless in comparison to my previous visit. And as someone else mentioned on this thread once, they do have a rather annoying habit of charging slightly higher prices than on the website.

Interesting you didn't get a reply at Mandala. That's happened to me a few times too. I'll definitely check out Ekstase next time the mood strikes.

Has anyone been to the Freies Praxis in Courbierstrasse? I was there recently and had an amazing session with a blonde, middle-aged lady (who used to be a professional yachtswoman, of all things). Great body, massage, spot of dom action, 'gynstuhl' etc. Ending up with great HR, lots of eye contact and breathy encouragement. Well recommended.

Hello all,

I took a long break as I was trying to give it all up and go freebie only. After a long dry spell and a night of drinking, I finally caved and gave My Escorts a call. Angus has warned about calling for outcall late at night but I paid no heed as I was in the mood. After some browsing I decided on Sofia 2, as listed on their site.

She arrived about an hour after I called and although the photos on the site are very obviously photoshopped, she was quite good looking in person. I would say maybe face 7 and body 7.5. She has a very Eastern EU look, which I'm totally into. Anyway, I gave her 200 for the hour and an extra ten for some french kissing.

She spoke minimal German and no english but I managed with a little Google Translate and my miniscule German. I sent her her off to get cleaned up and she appeared naked a few minutes later. I asked her if I was her first client this evening and she said I was. Of course she could have been lying and I suspect it is quite possible.

We headed to the bedroom. As always, I started eating her, trying to get her come, and I think I must have been down there for like 20 or 30 minutes. No dice; she seemed to be into it, but there was just no getting her off. As I said, I suspect that maybe she was all cummed out for the night. At one point, I tried to get my fingers into the action, but she said something in Bulgarian and gently pushed my hand away. No problem, she didn't want that it seems, but be forewarned if you are into that.

We moved to 69, which I find helps me to get it up as normally I can be apprehensive when I'm with the working girls. I don't know if I had to ask for it, but she immediately slipped on the condom even though her page says that she'll do BBJ (no cim) for free. I didn't mind anyhow, so I just let her stick with her preference. With the condom on, I couldn't really gauge her skills that well, but it seemed to be good enough. Nothing spectacular, but not bad either. We moved into a few different positions, and while serviceable, her performance wasn't anything special either.

After finishing the first session, we talked and smoked for a bit. This is normally my favourite part and I can say for sure that this is where she is good. Although we couldn't communicate directly, with the help of google translate and our both minimal German, we managed to get to know each other a bit and it was fun.

After a bit, we started again, and I said I wanted to try to get her to come. I asked her what made her come and she said licking. So again I tried for another 20 minutes or so, but finally gave up. We moved through a few different positions. I will say though that her top game is really good as she can ride well; not like some girls that don't really understand what feels good when they are on top. With about 10 minutes to go we were in 69 and she quickly mentioned that I had about 10 minutes left. I finished up on top in missionary and she went to get cleaned up. I watched her wash up and get dressed and then we kissed each other on the cheek and she went on her way.

All in all, I would say that although her performance wasn't spectacular, I would repeat with her again just for the fact that she was quite good looking in my opinion, and she was friendly enough in the down time.

Cheers all.

[QUOTE=Murkly70]I gave her 200 for the hour and an extra ten for some french kissing. [/QUOTE]

Hi Murkly,

Thanks for the report. Sounds like you did have an acceptable, if not mind blowing visit.

But I am curious-you say you gave her 200 + 10 for the hour with kissing. On the MyEscorts web site is states the price as 90 Euros/hr. Was this a misprint by you? or an opportunistic rip off by dear Sophia?

[url]http://www.myescortberlin.com/info/preise.html[/url]

Regards

AM

[QUOTE=Iggypup] Great body, massage, spot of dom action, 'gynstuhl' etc. Ending up with great HR, lots of eye contact and breathy encouragement. Well recommended.[/QUOTE]I always wondered what 'Gymstuhl' was - I've seen it advertised in many places - anybody care to enlighten me?

Thanks,

Charlie

Hi All,

It has been a number of weeks since I visted Berlin and I had a few hours to spare before getting my flight back to the Uk so did a quick interent search on my iphone to see if I could find anywhere interesting to vist.

I found "Bordello Tiffany" and it just happend to be on the U-bahn line I was on nearest stop Moritzplatz, then a short walk up to Ritterstasse 11. (don't know if this is know by another name.)

You basically go in at the bottom floor and then up in a lift to the topfloor and ring the bell and wait.

I got the feeling that not many of the girls had very good English, but managed to get by, I was led to a room and sat down then four Girls all reasonably decent but one stood out as soon as I saw her, individually they where brought in and introduced themselves and then I had to choose, assume there would be more choice on an evening than on a quiet Saturday afternoon.

Also on the wall was a menu and I think there would be something on there to satisfy everyones paticular needs, anal, rimming etc etc.

Starting price started at €60 for 20minutes which is great if you don't last for more than 5minutes. I went for 40mins for €80 and an extra €20 for kissing. Aparently for this package ypou are allowed to come twice if you can manage it.

I choose a Beutiful petite brunette Anna 25 from poland, fantastic little body and beautiful blue eyes. I was feeling a little hungover from the night before so not at my best, she was also extremely tight so had me coming in next to no time. As I'd paid for 40mins she gave good value and gave me a really nice massage for the remainder of my time, rather than throwing me out as soon as I shot my bolt.

The only word of warning is when you leave, I don't know if it was me but I couldn't find a way out as I was escorted to leave by the back exit and found myself in the courtyard with no way out. Fortunately I'm reasonably agile and managed to scale a fence and escape via a mercedes showroom.

I tried to phone them but there number wasn't recognised, if anyone knows how you are meant to get out as I would defnitely be interested in visiting again next time I'm in Berlin but having to scale a security fence to get out was a bit extreme.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]I always wondered what 'Gymstuhl' was - I've seen it advertised in many places - anybody care to enlighten me?

Thanks,

Charlie[/QUOTE]

Actually it is "Gynstuhl" or in English a Gynecological chair. The girl sits in it with feet in stirrups as you examine and/or fuck her. There is usually a small extra charge (at Liberty it is 10 extra for use of the chair) and you have to book the room in which the chair sits.

I guess one could get more inventive if one is into it and play out a whole examination role play game if one wants. The role play may also be charged for, I do not know.


AM

PS-this is of course in a bordello context. In a massage place the Gynstuhl might well be used for te man as the girl accesses his dick & anus for a massage. Iggy would have to enlighten us on that...

Hey Angus,

No, it was 200 because I live just outside Berlin so it's a bit more because of the distance. I always agree on the price on the phone before the girl is sent out.

Cheers

[QUOTE]PS-this is of course in a bordello context. In a massage place the Gynstuhl might well be used for te man as the girl accesses his dick & anus for a massage. Iggy would have to enlighten us on that...[/QUOTE]Absolutely, that's the deal. You clamber aboard, legs spread and the girl has full access to tease, tickle and titillate. Maximum pleasure.

DCups--
Your money will be well spent with Maya at Mon Rouge. See my earlier report. She's beautiful, and in to it. Her boobs are fake though.
Dave

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Actually it is "Gynstuhl" or in English a Gynecological chair. The girl sits in it with feet in stirrups as you examine and/or fuck her. There is usually a small extra charge (at Liberty it is 10 extra for use of the chair) and you have to book the room in which the chair sits.

I guess one could get more inventive if one is into it and play out a whole examination role play game if one wants. The role play may also be charged for, I do not know.

AM

PS-this is of course in a bordello context. In a massage place the Gynstuhl might well be used for te man as the girl accesses his dick & anus for a massage. Iggy would have to enlighten us on that...[/QUOTE]OK, thx Angus

Probably not my thing.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Dave Lamd]DCups,

Your money will be well spent with Maya at Mon Rouge. See my earlier report. She's beautiful, and in to it. Her boobs are fake though.

Dave[/QUOTE]Hmmmm. Are you 100% sure that they're fake?

They seemed pretty real to me. If they are man-made as you suggest, they're very well done, and swing and jiggle in all the right ways.

She's gorgeous either way, and a nice girl who really 'joins in' the fun. Just a treasure.

Charlie

I am wondering if the girl you spent the lovely rainy afternoon cuddling might have been Nadja?

[url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/images/girl13/girl.htm[/url]

The website says she is new but I recognize the pictures with the red net dress as having been on the website for some time. And I have had my eye on her as a possible candidate for a visit. Any more info that you have on her would be helpful to tip the scales.

AM

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Hmmmm. Are you 100% sure that they're fake?

They seemed pretty real to me.[/QUOTE]

I am of the opinion that if they look real, feel real and taste real, they are real unless I am informed otherwise. Unlike many, I am a lover of illusion and if the girl & her surgeon can pull off such a reality coup, Angus is not going to go looking for hidden strings.

After all, the young lovely's very name, Maya, also graces the Hindu Goddess of illusion and dreams. Understanding that all reality is illusion, yet still being able to enjoy life, may well be the soul point of this existence.

AM

Hi Guys,

My blog is getting more active-or at least I am getting more active with my posts there. I have had the blog since last October but did not do much posting until recently. I guess these things need to sit for a while and grow roots or something.

The writing there is not so much about where to go-we have the ISG for that. Rather it is a about the more philosophical side of mongering, at least how I see it.

Have a look & a read if you feel to. Enjoy it. Questions & comments here or on the blog itself, are most welcomed.

[url]www.angusmagee.com[/url]

AM

Good work,

This is very interesting, have to take my time and read.

[QUOTE=Sex Quest]Any casual sex/Personals websites for Berlin? I know they had some magazines in the past, but it's been sometime since I've used them, I bet there must be something online.[/QUOTE]Take a look at

[url]http://www.poppinserate.de[/url]

Sex Personals Website only.

Its free and you have nothing to subscribe.

[QUOTE=Vompat]Good work,

This is very interesting, have to take my time and read.[/QUOTE]


Thanks Vombat. And I have ideas for new posts just not as much time to write as I would like. World Cup fever here in Berlin. I am working in a small beer garden with a big TV screen so we are now getting ready for Sunday's game. Should be a zoo.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I am wondering if the girl you spent the lovely rainy afternoon cuddling might have been Nadja?

[url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/images/girl13/girl.htm[/url]

The website says she is new but I recognize the pictures with the red net dress as having been on the website for some time. And I have had my eye on her as a possible candidate for a visit. Any more info that you have on her would be helpful to tip the scales.

AM[/QUOTE]Hi Angus,

Yes, that's her. They are stretching the definition of 'new' here with some abandon, as I recall it was well over a year ago. Quite probably around January '09 that I visited her. Anyway. A charming, friendly and wicked girl, with a real penchant (or, so she said), for English-speaking guys. Even if she was *just* saying that, her English was fluent and she made the whole experience completely memorable. Fooling around in the jacuzzi, at one point, she mentioned that a lot of her friends loved to fuck in their jacuzzis. I am not sure if this comment was followed by a sly wink, but I believe it was and wish I had been a bit more receptive to it, instead of drooling helplessly as she sat behind me, tucked her legs around me and massaged my back with her slick, oiled body. However, as I say, that was some time ago now. YMMV.

As time goes by, this spontaneity obviously diminishes. For instance, I remember visiting short, neat Alina at Aphrodite's in Brunnenstrasse shortly after she joined. She used to work in a circus (!) I think, and had trained as a professional masseur. Her massage skills were certainly well above anything I had previously experienced, she was talking about her days in the circus and how she had ended up in Berlin etc etc and as the hour-long appointment wore on, we got into all sorts of tangles, ending up with a long DATY session and DFK. However, after a few months when I visited her again, it was markedly more mechanical and reserved, certainly none of the relaxed spontaneity of my first encounter. (However, she went on to deliver yet another excellent massage and HR).

[QUOTE=Iggypup]Has anyone been to the Freies Praxis in Courbierstrasse? I was there recently and had an amazing session with a blonde, middle-aged lady (who used to be a professional yachtswoman, of all things). Great body, massage, spot of dom action, 'gynstuhl' etc. Ending up with great HR, lots of eye contact and breathy encouragement. Well recommended.[/QUOTE]Hi Iggy,

I'm heading to Berlin for first time in a few weeks. I read your post above about a great massage session you recently experienced. I've tried to search for additional information about this place, but with no success.

I will show my ignorance and ask if Courbierstrasse is a street in Berlin? Wondering if you could post the contact information for this place. If they have a web site or phone number. I guess you don't remember the name of the girl who gave you the massage, but any info to describe her might help.

Thanks, I really appreciate any info.

Jeff

[QUOTE=Jeff R]
I will show my ignorance and ask if Courbierstrasse is a street in Berlin? Wondering if you could post the contact information for this place. If they have a web site or phone number. I guess you don't remember the name of the girl who gave you the massage, but any info to describe her might help.

Thanks, I really appreciate any info.[/QUOTE]


Iggy will have to fill you in on names but here is the website.

[url]http://www.freie-praxis.de/[/url]

The website is in English & German so I am guessing that they look for the visitor trade. If you want to see more of what is available in Berlin here is the link to a Berlin sex trade portal.

[url]http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/index.php?template=1[/url]

And you might want to look at my Berlin Guide with a small, and much out of date (I am not a massage guy normally), section on massage places.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48[/url]

and for a more current (last Summer) updated bordello scene.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=975156&postcount=1936[/url]

Angus

Hi all,

Fellow lovers of the pink box. I will hit Berlin next week, and plan to visit Caligula, Club 59 and Rose16 (milf brothel, need to try once in my life).

Any recent visits and comments/suggestions?

When I get back I will post my own experience.

Kasper

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]Hi all,

Fellow lovers of the pink box. I will hit Berlin next week, and plan to visit Caligula, Club 59 and Rose16 (milf brothel, need to try once in my life).

Any recent visits and comments/suggestions?

When I get back I will post my own experience.

Kasper[/QUOTE]


I am pretty sure that there is a Caligula report not very far back in this thread. But it is, as I remember, not a really comprehensive report. As I can tell reports from Caligula are mixed. It seems that you can have a good time there but some reports suggest reluctant, unresponsive girls. I think it depends on the mongers ability to coax a spot of fun out of the situation.

As for the other two places you mention, they would be firsts for the forum and very welcomed.

AM

Anyone knows if there are a real pornstar going for escort in Berlin?

Most lucky for Eastern european girls.

Thanks!

Kasper
Angus is correct, nothing on the forum on these two.
Websites are interesting:
[url]http://www.club-59.de/home.php[/url]
[url]http://www.rose16.de/index.html[/url]
BSK

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
As for the other two places you mention, they would be firsts for the forum and very welcomed.

AM[/QUOTE]

First I would like to thank everyone who contributes to this site, its information is always useful.

After reviewing all the comments in the Berlin area, it appeared to me that Liberty on Martin Luther Strasse ([url]http://www.Libertyberlin. De/[/url]) was as close to a sure thing as I could get for my first time out. You guys didn't lead me astray.

1st Visit. Met by the older German lady at the door, no English, but she quickly sent in someone who did speak English and asked me what I was looking for. I stated that I wanted 40 minutes and anal on the menu. Within 30 seconds they introduced me to 3 beautiful women. I selected Toni and I have to say that the pictures on the web site of her do not do her justice. They must be at least a year old, as she has lost weight, looks great by the way, and has added a couple of nice tattoos, but its clearly her. Anyway, after about 30 seconds of selecting Toni, she comes in and says sorry, there has been a mistake, she doesn't do anal. She was very apologetic about it, went on and on, saying that she didn't want to do that for work, she was saving it for that special man in her life someday, that after all of this (her work) he would know he was the first to do that wow yeah I know, I had only known her for 18 seconds and she dropped all that on me. She really does seem like a nice girl. She then tried to convince me that maybe if I didn't really want anal she would be happy to give me a BBBJ and cim. She almost had me! Haha but for some reason was just in the mood for a great ass. She said she understood, and that I seemed like a nice guy and she would check with a friend of hers that didn't 'normally' do anal, but sometimes did if she liked that guy. 30 seconds later she brings me Jenna OMG. Tiny little bombshell, with a great ass, couldn't be more than 35 kilos she proceeded to question me for 5 minutes on the size of my Johnson, haha. She said that she couldn't do it if it was too big, since she was so small. She didn't want to say yes, only to say no later. I finally convinced her that I am just normal sized and off to the room we went. So guys, if you have an 8 inch cock, even though it says anal on her resume area, she won't do it. Very nice girl, was friendly, and her English was excellent. Started with a little strip tease, then put her on her back and started warming up both areas with my fingers and some lube, she loved it. (Later stating that most guys just want to slam it in there without warming her up) Put the jimmy on, 2-3 minutes of a decent BJ, it's hard to judge with a jimmy on honestly, then normal sex for 4-5 minutes, then on to the main attraction. She made me go real slow for 4-5 minutes as she adjusted, but let me pound away when I finished shortly after that. Finished with a nice conversation and a nice backrub. Will go back again, had a great time. 80 euro for 40 minutes, 40 euro for anal. 120 was a bargain

Note to anyone who is a maybe a little shy, Liberty sits above a XXX Theater, so when the cab dropped me off 1st time it was a little embarrassing. BUT, the next day, I told the cab to drop me at 8 Martin Luther Strasse, which is a nice upscale car dealership, its only 50 meters away.

2nd Visit – So, all night that night all I could think about was Toni and that BBBJ and cim! Haha So I went back today. Toni wasn't there bummer. But it was early, maybe 3pm and they had 6 really nice looking girls. Not all of them were my type, but I can honestly say they were all attractive. In a trance almost at this point, all I had thought about all day was cute Toni. So I just randomly selected a name that I remembered from the line up, might have been Serena. She said that she only worked there on Mondays, and the web site link for Serena shows exactly that. But I can't say for sure that it was her. Anyway, distraught that Toni wasn't there just paid for 20 minutes and a BBBJ and cim. She was friendly, good conversation before, funny, nice girl, and when it came time to perform, she did well. She wasn't able to take it all, not a deep throat specialist, but a good BJ none the less. 40 euro for 20 minutes, 30 euro for BBBJ and cim.

Now I am back at the hotel, wondering what I will do tomorrow! Any suggestions? Is King George really worth it? Is the quality there?

Later on, will post more soon from Dubai, and Uruguay.

First I would like to thank everyone who contributes to this site, its information is always useful.

After reviewing all the comments in the Berlin area, it appeared to me that Liberty on Martin Luther Strasse ([url]http://www.Libertyberlin.de/[/url]) was as close to a sure thing as I could get for my first time out. You guys didn't lead me astray.

1st Visit. Met by the older German lady at the door, no English, but she quickly sent in someone who did speak English and asked me what I was looking for. I stated that I wanted 40 minutes and anal on the menu. Within 30 seconds they introduced me to 3 beautiful women. I selected Toni and I have to say that the pictures on the web site of her do not do her justice. They must be at least a year old, as she has lost weight, looks great by the way, and has added a couple of nice tattoos, but its clearly her. Anyway, after about 30 seconds of selecting Toni, she comes in and says sorry, there has been a mistake, she doesn't do anal. She was very apologetic about it, went on and on, saying that she didn't want to do that for work, she was saving it for that special man in her life someday, that after all of this (her work) he would know he was the first to do that wow yeah I know, I had only known her for 18 seconds and she dropped all that on me. She really does seem like a nice girl. She then tried to convince me that maybe if I didn't really want anal she would be happy to give me a BBBJ and cim. She almost had me! Haha but for some reason was just in the mood for a great ass. She said she understood, and that I seemed like a nice guy and she would check with a friend of hers that didn't 'normally' do anal, but sometimes did if she liked that guy. 30 seconds later she brings me Jenna OMG. Tiny little bombshell, with a great ass, couldn't be more than 35 kilos she proceeded to question me for 5 minutes on the size of my Johnson, haha. She said that she couldn't do it if it was too big, since she was so small. She didn't want to say yes, only to say no later. I finally convinced her that I am just normal sized and off to the room we went. So guys, if you have an 8 inch cock, even though it says anal on her resume area, she won't do it. Very nice girl, was friendly, and her English was excellent. Started with a little strip tease, then put her on her back and started warming up both areas with my fingers and some lube, she loved it. (Later stating that most guys just want to slam it in there without warming her up) Put the jimmy on, 2-3 minutes of a decent BJ, it's hard to judge with a jimmy on honestly, then normal sex for 4-5 minutes, then on to the main attraction. She made me go real slow for 4-5 minutes as she adjusted, but let me pound away when I finished shortly after that. Finished with a nice conversation and a nice backrub. Will go back again, had a great time. 80 euro for 40 minutes, 40 euro for anal. 120 was a bargain

Note to anyone who is a maybe a little shy, Liberty sits above a XXX Theater, so when the cab dropped me off 1st time it was a little embarrassing. BUT, the next day, I told the cab to drop me at 8 Martin Luther Strasse, which is a nice upscale car dealership, its only 50 meters away.

2nd Visit – So, all night that night all I could think about was Toni and that BBBJ and cim! Haha So I went back today. Toni wasn't there bummer. But it was early, maybe 3pm and they had 6 really nice looking girls. Not all of them were my type, but I can honestly say they were all attractive. In a trance almost at this point, all I had thought about all day was cute Toni. So I just randomly selected a name that I remembered from the line up, might have been Serena. She said that she only worked there on Mondays, and the web site link for Serena shows exactly that. But I can't say for sure that it was her. Anyway, distraught that Toni wasn't there just paid for 20 minutes and a BBBJ and cim. She was friendly, good conversation before, funny, nice girl, and when it came time to perform, she did well. She wasn't able to take it all, not a deep throat specialist, but a good BJ none the less. 40 euro for 20 minutes, 30 euro for BBBJ and cim.

Now I am back at the hotel, wondering what I will do tomorrow! Any suggestions? Is King George really worth it? Is the quality there?

Later on, will post more soon from Dubai, and Uruguay.

[QUOTE=Dogfishuae]Now I am back at the hotel, wondering what I will do tomorrow! Any suggestions? Is King George really worth it? Is the quality there?[/QUOTE]Hard to say as we all have different standards when it comes to girls. But a look on the website does show a nu ber of girls I would certainly consider "do-able". And remember that the pics on the website are usually less flattering to the ladies. That is they look better in person. I think if you show up at King George and act like a gentleman you can have a good time there. It might not be quite the quality of Liberty (or Artemis) but you can not argue the price can you.

AM

Really wanted to go back to Liberty for Toni this afternoon as the web site said she would be there today. But decided that I had better venture out and try a different spot. Went to Tiffany's ([url]http://www.Ritter11. De/berlin-bordell.php[/url]) and apparently it was really busy as they only presented two girls to me. Emelie and Kelly Kelly by the way was gorgeous! BUT, I remember reading up on her bio on the site and she doesn't do anal, BBBJ or cim, and I was really looking for at least one out of three.

So I was about to leave when one more girl popped in, it was Tessa. I had done my research and remembered that she did do what I was looking for. The layout at Tiffany's is really nice, the room was clean, well furnished, no attached bathroom but it was right next door. Paid for 50 minutes, 100 euro, 25 extra for anal. They advertise that on the 50 minute price you can cum twice. Tessa isn't normally my type, but have to say she was a star after the 1st round she gave me a fantastic massage, really good! Not the normal hands on your back rubbing around for 5 minutes. It was a proper, hard, long, massage, great hands. After that we chatted for 5 or 10 minutes, very nice girl. With 15 minutes to go, she asked me if I wanted to go again. I said "work your magic and lets see what happens" haha. It worked, she's good and doesn't mind a good pounding! In summary, Tessa was good at her job. Not a stunner, but good attitude.

[QUOTE=Figge03]Anyone knows if there are a real pornstar going for escort in Berlin?

Most lucky for Eastern european girls.

Thanks![/QUOTE]There are a few "porn stars" working in bordellos if you search the various websites.

Try this portal: [url]http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/[/url]

or some more indy girls advertise here: [url]http://www.berlinintim.de/[/url]

Off the top of my head there is one girl billed as a Pornosternchen at Freudenhaus-Angel

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/angel.html[/url]

But if you are looking for big name porn stars you may have to google it yourself and look for one who is willing to travel from EE. But it will not be cheap.

Folks, this forum page is extraordinary!

I will be in berlin in a few weeks, so I checked out what you guys are telling about, it's simply IMPRESSIVE! Only a few other city pages on ISG are as good as berlin page. So thanks to every one putting something to that.

As I will be in berlin for a short period, I plan a few hotel in calls, mostly massages. Will tell you about the experiences.

Be safe,

Alex

Last weekend me and my friend went to Berlin for a concert and some mongering. First we went for a tantra massage as recommended by the forum.

The first place to check out was the Harmoniemassagen ([url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/[/url]) mentioned below, but I didn't get a good vibe entering the place. There were 3 girls, Fairy, Melli and probably Jenny. Fairy opened the door and just expected me to go straight to the room with her and acted surprised when I wanted to check out the place, price list and girls before commit to anything. The brunette (probably Jenny) sat in the sofa and looked annoyed and only Melli had a smile. Perhaps this is a good massage place, just not for me that day, so I left without doing anything there.

Next I went to Exstase massage ([url]http://www.ekstasemassage.de/[/url]) which is close by with a short walk from Harmonie. There I had some confusion getting in, since there is a window at the bottom floor to the street and when buzzed in thru the port, there is a door to the right with the Exstase name on it. Well, it was the wrong door and a helpful neighbor told me it was on the next floor, so I had to take the stairs.

Once inside I was presented with 3 girls of which only one could speak any English. Finally I decided to try Lucy for a 30 min tantramassage for €60.
[url]http://www.ekstasemassage.de/html/lucy.html[/url]
No penetration and no oral, but the massage was fantastic with a happy ending. This was a first for me and I am definitely going to do this again! I was so happy with Lucy that I gave her a small tip on the way out.
Highly recommended!

The next day my friend wanted to see a real strip tease show. We ended up at the Rush Hour club ([url]http://www.rush-hour-berlin.de/[/url]).
It was €20 at the door and we were handed 10 fake dollar bills to be given to the dancing girls. There were about 20-25 girls and always two on stage dancing a song or two. Afterwards the dancing girls went to every table receive a dollar bill or two from every customer. Once the fake dollarbills were spent, new ones can be bought at the bar for €1 per fake $1.
One could buy a girl drink (€35) to have them sit down with you for a while or go to a room for a private lap dance (€100). There was no prostitution in the club and therefore it was just teasing and no delivery, so I found it boring after a while. The beer was reasonably priced and the club seemed safe, so if you just want to see some strip tease you could go there for a while I guess.

The next day I wanted to some ordinary mongering and being on a tight budget at the moment, I had to skip Artemis this time and go for a more valuable option.

I choose the Tiffany bordello at the Ritter strasse 11 in Kreuzberg near the U-bahn station of Moritzplatz. I had seen the Youtube video about the club ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDclAX5YdiU[/url]), so It was easy to find my way to the club and inside the place.

Once inside the club I was rushed to a small room with a computer and then about 5-6 girls came in very fast once at a time to present themselves. It was way too fast for my taste, but I had done some research before on their website ([url]http://www.ritter11.de/berlin-bordell.php[/url]) where you can see who is working and their times. All information on the webpage seems to be accurate so you can probably be confident in your expectations when you go there.

I had a top 3 selection in my head which was very helpful in this rushed selection period. First was Anna who was busy at the moment, second choice was Kelly who was available, so I picked her. ([url]http://ritter11.de/bordell-girls/kelly.php[/url])

Kelly is even more fit then the pictures indicate. She is from Berlin but her parents are Polish and has worked there for 3 years according to herself.

What an excellent choice!
She started with asking me if I wanted something to drink and gave me a Coke along with a cookie. Then in the room she asked how long time I wanted and if I wanted any extras. I choose 30 mins for €60 and no extras. Then it was time for the fun stuff! She asked if I wanted a massage before or after. I said after since the "massages" usually are pretty poor and I wanted the full 30 min for sex.

She agreed to do all positions I wanted, DATY, fingering and awesome dirty talk and moaning during the sex, total GFE! The excellent performance with that super tight body of hers, made me finish in only 15 min! Afterwards most pros just pulls out as fast as they can when I'm done. Not so with Kelly, she waited until I pulled out myself!

Now most pros would start getting dressed and kick me out. Not so with Kelly, she asked if I wanted that massage now and I of course, a bit surprised, agreed. The massage was also excellent with a good talk about the club and prostitution in Germany and Berlin. She explained why they close so early (22.00) and that they focus on business men as customers and not the party people. She is excellent in English so it was really easy to talk with her.

When the time was up, she didn't just tell me that the time is up but asked if I felt relaxed! Fantastic! When I got dressed I gave her an extra €20 as a tip, she was really worth it.

In my 12 years of mongering, Kelly is easy on the top five of my p4p experiences ever! I can only highly recommend the Tiffany bordello and Kelly!

Having been to Artemis and Monrouge before I must say that Berlin is now becoming my favorite city for mongering, partying and touristing! Maybe it is time to move there.

Fellow lovers of the pink box, here is my report:

Fredenhaus: went there early in the morning (my dick never watches the clock!), 4 girls available. Chose Jasmin (pics on website). Very nice session, 20 minutes 30 euros, kind and smiling, many positions. Liked the place and the attitude, will come back.

Rose 16 (MILF): I wanted to try, but no one answered at the door. Is it closed already?

Caligula: had to try it. Now I know it is not my bread and butter. Had to choose between 50 euros 1 hour, or 100 euros all day (not possible to buy the 30 euros token advertised on website, but the doorman was 1. 95, I am 1. 80 so better not to argue!).

Opted for 50 euros, 5-6 girls dancing, 3-4 good looking (not stunners, I'd say 7-8), but very bad attitude! Had to maximise my time, so I went right away for the first fuck. Seedy rooms, unclean (cum stains on the bed), didn't like the session (off the bikini, lie on the bed, spread the legs and goodbye my friend. I don't like this attitude). Lasted 10 minutes. Grabbed a coke while watching a world cup game on the screen. Then looked at the girls for 20 minutes, just to get my friend back to life, choose another girl for the second cheap, quick fuck of the day. Bottom line, either you go with a large group of friends, otherwise you get bored soon in there. Will not repeat.

Hope this was helpful!

Ah, in Caligula one girl offered me BBBJ, which I of course refused for obvious reasons! STAY SAFE!

[QUOTE=Alex1966]Folks, this forum page is extraordinary!

I will be in berlin in a few weeks, so I checked out what you guys are telling about, it's simply IMPRESSIVE! Only a few other city pages on ISG are as good as berlin page. So thanks to every one putting something to that.

As I will be in berlin for a short period, I plan a few hotel in calls, mostly massages. Will tell you about the experiences.

Be safe,

Alex[/QUOTE]

Why thank you very much Alex-we do our best here and I think it shows.

I look forward to your reports.

AM

[QUOTE=Bobby Ewing]The next day my friend wanted to see a real strip tease show. We ended up at the Rush Hour club ([url]http://www.rush-hour-berlin.de/[/url]).

It was €20 at the door and we were handed 10 fake dollar bills to be given to the dancing girls. There were about 20-25 girls and always two on stage dancing a song or two. Afterwards the dancing girls went to every table receive a dollar bill or two from every customer. Once the fake dollarbills were spent, new ones can be bought at the bar for €1 per fake $1.
One could buy a girl drink (€35) to have them sit down with you for a while or go to a room for a private lap dance (€100). There was no prostitution in the club and therefore it was just teasing and no delivery, so I found it boring after a while. The beer was reasonably priced and the club seemed safe, so if you just want to see some strip tease you could go there for a while I guess.
[/QUOTE]

Many thanks for the report Bobby. I will post to the RoD thread as it contains good info on under reported places.

I found interesting you take on the table dance bar Rush Hour. Myself I can not see the point of spending 100 Euros just to be teased by a lap dance? At Artemis (as I am sure you know) you can throw in an extra 10 and receive a half hour suck & fuck with cim-or for 20 more a full hour with no extras. I would much rather do this myself. But I guess table dance places have there niche and fit for some guys. Good to get a report here of this place.

AM

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]

Caligula: had to try it. Now I know it is not my bread and butter. Had to choose between 50 euros 1 hour, or 100 euros all day (not possible to buy the 30 euros token advertised on website, but the doorman was 1. 95, I am 1. 80 so better not to argue!).

Opted for 50 euros, 5-6 girls dancing, 3-4 good looking (not stunners, I'd say 7-8), but very bad attitude! Had to maximise my time, so I went right away for the first fuck. Seedy rooms, unclean (cum stains on the bed), didn't like the session (off the bikini, lie on the bed, spread the legs and goodbye my friend. I don't like this attitude). Lasted 10 minutes. Grabbed a coke while watching a world cup game on the screen. Then looked at the girls for 20 minutes, just to get my friend back to life, choose another girl for the second cheap, quick fuck of the day. Bottom line, either you go with a large group of friends, otherwise you get bored soon in there. Will not repeat.

Hope this was helpful!

Ah, in Caligula one girl offered me BBBJ, which I of course refused for obvious reasons! STAY SAFE![/QUOTE]

Thanks Kasper for TOFTT (taking one for the team) and reporting on Caligula. It does not sound too good but then it only set you back a 50 for two sessions so it can not have been that painful. As I understand it the girls at Caligula (I was told this by a working girl) make about 1200/month plus what they can pull in from extras. Not too good when you consider a hard working girl at Artemis can make that in an evening.

Also I happened to walk up the block in which Caligula is situated yesterday afternoon at around 15:00. There is a small döner kabab place on the corner of Martin-Luther Str. and Fuggerstr. Seated outside was a table of girls I thought had to be the late afternoon/evening shift at Caligula grabbing a bite before the shift starts. All of them were very slutily dressed and some were, to my eyes, quite "doable". But then there seem to be an extra thrill involved in seeing the girls outside their normal environs and maybe they would not look so good at 03:00 hrs.?

I'm going to Berlin soon, and Im planning 10-15 girls for the weekend, so I need something to help my little friend :-D

Anyone know where to get Cialis, Viagra or something else that will help my little friend through the weekend? :-D

Btw, im planning to go to Artemis every day since it seems to me from reports it is the best looking girls working there.

after 5 beautiful days in berlin, its time to go home. yesterday morning, i took a couple of my friends down to liberty. it was early, 11am! but we had other plans that afternoon so a morning run was essential. surprisingly good lineup for 11am they took angelina and anastasia. i took roxy, who is not yet listed on the web page and said she had only been at liberty for 2 weeks.

roxy is russian, great body, beautiful face. but i can't give her a good report for a couple reasons. her only extra on offer is anal, and she charges 50 euro, not the house standard and listed price of 40 euro. i briefly argued with her, ok argue would be too strong a word, discussed, that the price is only 40 euro. she gave me the take it or leave it speech as she bent over the bed. i couldn't resist, i paid the 50 but i have been around long enough to know that if her attitude up front was bad, the entire session was going to be bad. came time to get down to it, would only allow it to happen in one position and constantly had her hands on my hips only allowing me to go about half way. could see that it wasn't going to be fun, and just finished up as fast as possible. got a terrible massage for the last 15 minutes and then got the boot. great face, great body, bad attitude maybe it was too early in the morning. and everyone can have a bad day, i realize that, but i certainly will not go back to her again.

my friends said that angelina and anastasia were top notch! both gave very good grades, high praise on all areas, performance, body, attitude etc.

headed home thanks again for all who contribute and i will continue to post on other areas around the world.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Many thanks for the report Bobby. I will post to the RoD thread as it contains good info on under reported places.

I found interesting you take on the table dance bar Rush Hour. Myself I can not see the point of spending 100 Euros just to be teased by a lap dance? At Artemis (as I am sure you know) you can throw in an extra 10 and receive a half hour suck & fuck with cim-or for 20 more a full hour with no extras. I would much rather do this myself. But I guess table dance places have there niche and fit for some guys. Good to get a report here of this place.

AM[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you about the €100 lapdance. I know I can have girls like Kelly for €60-80 mentioned in my previous post, so the €100 lapdance was never going to happen with me.

It was my friend who is a beginner in this hobby who had cold feet and didn't want to go all the way, just visit a stripjoint and enjoy the view. He bought the €35 bottle of sparkling wine with a girl and she sat there for at least an hour. He probably could've felt her up a bit in there but he was to shy, so they only talked the entire time.

I just bought a coke there for €5 for 20cl (total ripoff!) and an extra bunch of fake dollars. So I only spent about €60 in the place and got to feel up some boobs and asses. If the €100 would actually include a nice session in a room, I think it would be an awesome place!

Why is it so difficult to find the perfect place with lots of hot girls, really good striptease (as seen in various american films or TV-series) combined with a professional roomservice provided in places like Tiffany, Monrogue or any FKK?

The closest thing I've seen is Atlas bar and Darling cabaret in Prague. Sadly the girls at these places are a bit too expensive and provide very poor service, but the concept is as close I have found to what I really want.

[QUOTE=Tommyh80]I'm going to Berlin soon, and Im planning 10-15 girls for the weekend, so I need something to help my little friend :-D

Anyone know where to get Cialis, Viagra or something else that will help my little friend through the weekend? :-D

Btw, im planning to go to Artemis every day since it seems to me from reports it is the best looking girls working there.[/QUOTE]

You will get nothing in Berlin (or anywhere else in Germany) without a prescription from your doctor. If you have that, you will get it at any apotek. Germany is more strict about this than most places. I can not even buy a simple antibiotic wound cream here without a 'script from the doctor.

I can though point you towards a couple of nice oyster bars.

Hi all,

after a long time I tried one of the Berlin brothels again and chose a very classy and clean one, which is always recommendable and after all not too expensive.

After checking out a disappointing line at Feudenhaus Hase, I went to Liberty to check who is there. There were a few nice ladies (whose names I forgot, think Celine, Heidi and Lucy were amng them) but none really stroke me instantly to go for it. So I asked the vey friendly House-Mama-San for Carmen, who I had seen on the site and who only works here on Sunday's (but also on Thursdays and Saturdays at Salon Prestige). One of the reasons I asked for her was that I knew she offers the magic tripple: French kissing, BBBJ and CIF or alternatively CIM. So I took ol' Angus's advice and took half hour or even 40 minutes rather than a Quicky. 130 Euro was the damage and it was a well invested amount for a very nice and sexual session. She is a very sweet girl and gives a very magnificent blow job. Also you always have the feeling that she enjoys to give a man his Porn Experience.
She is German and even though I have a strong preferrance for Eastern European and sometimes Asian women...I was very satisfied with her performance and especially attitude..!!

If you like it nice, sweet but dirty...she is definetly a good choice. Even though she does not have a look like a model (face- and bodywise) she is in total very sexy..!!

I can for sure recommend her and also recommend Liberty..!! Well run, clean and friendly place..!!

Cheers,
The AF

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]

Rose 16 (MILF): I wanted to try, but no one answered at the door. Is it closed already?[/QUOTE]I would be very wary of Rose 16.

I think that it is a new place - certainly I only noticed it for the first time about 8 weeks ago when trawling through the Berlin-Intim webpages. Because I am somewhat partial to MILFs, I put it straight on my list of venues to attend upon my next visit.

Two weeks later I turned up in Berlin, called Rose 16 only to discover that the two ladies that I had picked out from the website had already departed. Upon my next visit, a fortnight later, I called up on arrival in Berlin to make an appointment with one of the girls whose availability I had established on the 'phone the day before. She wasn't there that day, and nor were any of the other women on the website. Now she has vanished permanantly. The Hausfrau assured me that they had lots of other 'lovely ladies' in situ, but I won't visit a Wohnungspuff unless I know that there is at least one girl present whom I have identified from the website as being of interest.

In short, the rapid turnover in staff and the unreliability I have experienced on the phone lead me to suspect that this place may be no good. Right now there aren't any ladies on the website that take my fancy, but if I happen to spot a new girl in the coming weeks that appeals to me I may give them one last chance. In the meantime, they have been removed from my list of places to inspect.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]I would be very wary of Rose 16. [/QUOTE]

I think you nailed this one Charlie. I just read a pretty luke warm report on this place on the local Berlin forum. To sum up-not a terrible experience but not one to repeat either. About the only thing the place seems to have going for it is a central location. But if you are into MILFs there are much better places to find them in Berlin.

I wonder, Charlie, if you have ever been to Herz, near Alt-Mariendorf in south Berlin? I visited once and remember it was full of MILFs. Not my thing so I left, but it has been around for a while and appears well established with a steady stable of women. Just no teeny girls;)

[url]http://www.herzberlin.de/index.html[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I wonder, Charlie, if you have ever been to Herz, near Alt-Mariendorf in south Berlin? I visited once and remember it was full of MILFs. Not my thing so I left, but it has been around for a while and appears well established with a steady stable of women. Just no teeny girls;)

[url]http://www.herzberlin.de/index.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]No, Angus, I've never tried it, but I have looked at their site often and there have been one or two girls I've fancied in the past of whom only Johanna remains listed there.

Since I started going to Artemis I've found it difficult to engender much enthusiasm for the bordelle scene. Occasionally I come across a picture of a girl I really get the hots for, but in general I prefer the FKK model where we get the opportunity to chat to a girl for a while and watch her 'work the room' before having to commit to a session. Making up one's mind from the line-up after a 10 second introduction and a quick handshake in the bedroom of a bordelle feels like a dreadfully poor method of selection by comparison.

In short, in the absence of a firm recommendation from a reliable poster on this forum, I don't usually bother with bordelles these days, with the occasional exception of the always reliable institution of Monrouge

Cheers,

Charlie

Hi all,

I know the Escort scene is probably not the best established scene in this town. However, I am wondering if anyone ever tried or read about this agency, which seems to be a small but maybe fine one:

[url]http://www.escort-sex24.de/[/url]

Especially Paris and Karolina seem interesting.

Anyone?

Cheers,
The AF

Anyone can recoment a good thai massasge place in Berlin with nice looking girls?

[QUOTE=The AF]Hi all,

I know the Escort scene is probably not the best established scene in this town. However, I am wondering if anyone ever tried or read about this agency, which seems to be a small but maybe fine one:

[url]http://www.escort-sex24.de/[/url]

Especially Paris and Karolina seem interesting.

Anyone?

Cheers,
The AF[/QUOTE]

Hi AF,

I guess you know that I rarely will use the services of an escort here in Berlin and thus have no direct experience with these girls. But I can say that they have been in the past extensively discussed on Verkehrsberichte and most reports are positive. In short they are said to be nice hard working Polish girls.

But I have to say the website is a special type of flash hell if you ask me.

AM

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Since I started going to Artemis I've found it difficult to engender much enthusiasm for the bordelle scene. Occasionally I come across a picture of a girl I really get the hots for, but in general I prefer the FKK model where we get the opportunity to chat to a girl for a while and watch her 'work the room' before having to commit to a session. Making up one's mind from the line-up after a 10 second introduction and a quick handshake in the bedroom of a bordelle feels like a dreadfully poor method of selection by comparison.
[/QUOTE]

Could have written this myself Charlie. Since first going to Artemis I find the normal bordello encounter a bit difficult to muster much enthusiasm for. I tend to chose my occasional bordello visits off the web pages when a picture captures my attention. But over all, the FKK set up suits me much better.

AM

[QUOTE=Tommyh80]Anyone can recoment a good thai massasge place in Berlin with nice looking girls?[/QUOTE]


There are so many Thai massage places in Berlin. Many of them are tiny little two or three girl places with no website. You just show up and take what is on offer. Some of these places are more geared towards sexual service, some less and it is hard to say which are which until you visit. But generally the sleazier looking the place, the more likelihood you can get a bj or even full service. Rare is the place where you will not receive at the end a hand job as part of your massage-happy ending.

If you look at the Thai massage section of this site [url]http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/[/url] you will find some of the bigger places and they may have more on offer as they advertise on a sex portal. But no guarantees.

I can not say more as I rarely use Thai massage and when I do I just want a massage with happy ending.

AM

While in Berlin shortly, I might try out La Folie FKK as it's central. Would try Artemis but I won't have a car.

Anyway, I might fancy a quickie down an alley and I'm wondering if there's a map or list of the zone/s for street walkers?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Anglital]While in Berlin shortly, I might try out La Folie FKK as it's central. Would try Artemis but I won't have a car.

Anyway, I might fancy a quickie down an alley and I'm wondering if there's a map or list of the zone/s for street walkers?

Cheers[/QUOTE]

La Folie is more far away from the S-bahn than Artemis, so I would recommend going those extra 2 or 3 train stops to Westkreutz. From there it is a 3 minute walk to Artemis.

I don't want to discourage you to go to La Folie, but don't rule out Artemis based on availability.

Blue

Being in Berlin for 5 days, I wanted to experience the bordello. Went to the famous one, Kamilla Dee. Very easy to find, need to walk a little while from the closest tube station. Very confidential, from the outside of the building, you cannot notice anything.

Ring and went upstairs. Welcome by a lady who introduce me immediately into asking me if I had a booking and if it was the first time. No and yes. “I bring you the girls so”. Very nice and clean room. But south exposed window, no AC, only fan, on that big sunny day in Berlin : it was too hot in the room. Moreover, non of the 6 available this late afternoon where my type. Maybe one could have done good sex, Cleo (?) but I wasn’t 100% excited with her body. Excuse myself with the lady and get out.

I then went to Royal who is only 20mn walk from KD.

Same impression and same welcome at Royal. But the room are really gorgeous !!! Lot of space, very nice furniture. Big bed. Introduced me one by one the girl. I was interested by two girls. I choose the one with the biggest tits…

Ivetta (?) from Germany. Very nice face. Average size. Huge tits, all natural. 25 years old. Don’t speak English which made our conversation very funny. She spoke to me in German as if I understood her. Made me laugh several time. Very soft (cover) blowjob. Mirror everywhere, I couldn’t wait more to fuck her. I made it hard for her. She has such a face when you fuck her: between joy and pain. Te more she was screaming, the more I penetrated her harder.

Had time to rest and continue to chat without understanding each other. She is very girlfriend.

Globally, it was a funny bordello experience. But if going back to Berlin, FKK Artemis would have my preference.

[QUOTE=Blue Swede]La Folie is more far away from the S-bahn than Artemis, ....[/QUOTE]
Are you sure ?
Do you really mean this club
[url]http://www.la-folie.de/index.php?section=anfahrt&l=de[/url]

I think it's close to S-bahn station "Charlottenburg".

Apparently , there is no sauna in this club ( I don't see any photos of sauna on its web site)

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]Are you sure ?
Do you really mean this club
[url]http://www.la-folie.de/index.php?section=anfahrt&l=de[/url]

I think it's close to S-bahn station "Charlottenburg".

Apparently , there is no sauna in this club ( I don't see any photos of sauna on its web site)[/QUOTE]

Ok, maybe not FAR away in comparison, I just measured the two distances on Google Earth and to La Folie is was about 400 m from Charlottenburg, while the distance from Westcreutz exit to Artemis is 350 m. In other words, no significant difference.

I would go to Artemis as I first choice and add La Folie for the research if you fancy. Compared, La Folie is a hole in the wall! This, I understand, don't rule out the possibility of a nice stay there.

Blue

I don't know about La Folie, but I had the plan to go there. Went to Artemis yesterday, and had a GREAT time. Since people say it cannot get any better than Artemis, La Folie is not on the "todo-list" anymore.

Taxi from a hotel close to Charlie Checkpoint was only around 20 euro. I came there early, around 15:00. Walked around and talked to some girls, but was a little bit disappointed by the looks. Tried to eat but the food was very simple.

After a an hour or so, I noticed a very beautiful african girl. I talked to her, and agreed on sex and CIM. I had a GREAT session which lasted for about 30 minutes. 60 +50 euro.

The second girl was from the dominican republic, and was very beautiful, but didn't have the skills compared to the first girl.

The third girl was an asian girl originally from Bankok, but lived most of her life in Germany. She gave a very good session. Compared to most thai-girls, she did at good blowjob.

The 4th session was a threesome with 2 beautiful german girls, 21 and 24 years old. Very beautiful and sexy.

The 5th session was with a girl from romania? Tall girl and beautiful face. Today's worst blowjob.

The 6th session was with a german girl, blonde and beautiful. A little bit chubby, but a good fuck.

Damage: 600 euro. I finished 6 times, and didn't even use viagra or cialis. My cock is red now, but going back to Artemis tonight :-D

[QUOTE=Lookoflove7]... Maybe one could have done good sex, Cleo (?) but I wasn’t 100% excited with her body.
....
[/QUOTE]
Do you mean Klio ?
[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/klio-e.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Anglital]While in Berlin shortly, I might try out La Folie FKK as it's central. Would try Artemis but I won't have a car.

Anyway, I might fancy a quickie down an alley and I'm wondering if there's a map or list of the zone/s for street walkers?

Cheers[/QUOTE]

There is at least one, maybe two, posts in the thread somewhere that details this info. You will have to do your own search though. If you like the sleazier side of sex you might also like the sex kino experience. There are many kinos all over Berlin. Have a look at my Berlin Guide. A bit out of date but still relevant.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48[/url]

Artemis & La Folie are very different clubs. Artemis is over all better and no harder to get to by transit as is noted below. It is more expensive though. And you would want (at least IMO) to spend some time there to get the money's worth of the entry fee.

La Folie is much cheaper but the girls do tend to be not quite so spectacular. It is always possible to find a part time gem at La Folie, but this usually means repeated visits and becoming a bit regular. Chances are, as a first time visitor, you will be hit on by the more pro ladies who work daily.

AM

PS-Please do not forget to post.

[QUOTE=Tommyh80]Damage: 600 euro. I finished 6 times, and didn't even use viagra or cialis. My cock is red now, but going back to Artemis tonight :-D[/QUOTE]

Hats off to Tommy. Respect! 6 times in a day and finished 6 times. I thought I did well with 5 times finishing 4.

But that last shot Tommy, it must have been more a dribble ;)

AM

Thursday July 8th:

First timer for this sort of party, I'd been with escorts before, but nothing like this. Was ready to try a gangbang. [url]www.Berlinintim.de[/url] has all the info you need if you are in town and looking. Seems like there are 3-4 GB per day there.

Read for a while and looked around for best quality and value and decided on Insomnia Wednesday gang bang. Got there around 14:30 (started at 14) and was supposed to go until 22:00 or 0000 I forget which. But all day basically. I was a bit nervous of course. Entrance is easy to find off the Ubahn stop (literally a few meters away). Directions on their website.

Got in and paid the 90euros, then undressed right there. I didn't know you could keep your underwear so I was standing there naked and went upstairs only to find everyone wearing underwear. I got a black towel from behind the bar and wore that all day. As I've previously read, they keep all you stuff at the clothes check downstairs. I left my passport, wallet, phone etc in my jeans pocket and they were all intact when I left so I guess its to be trusted. I did see a guy with a very small fanny pack he carried with him and there were a few phones behind the bar. They don't check ID. So if you want, you can bring a pretty minimal amount of stuff (cash only potentially) if your worried.

Anyways, you have to remember your ticket number because you pass it to the bar lady to hold. Oh, and get a towel and keep it with you or stash it because there aren't any in the showers.

Having never been to a place like this I wasn't sure of the etiquitte and what not. So I sat at the bar and drank a sprite and just kind of watched. Proabably 10 guys hanging out, 1 couple fucking in the middle stage thing and 3 chicks at the bar not talking to anyone. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to make a move or something and I don't speak a lick of German. So I started touching one of the girls shoulders and she said it was OK, then I started rubbing her thigh and she got up and walked to the other side of the room. Sucks because she was one of the more attractive ones and I think I creeped her out. Yes, me, 31yo fairly in shape who paid for the privelage of being here for the purpose of touching and banging girls managed to creep out the working girl. So I just waited longer.

Breakdown of the girls:

#1 older MILFish (40?) chick with dark hair, a bit of sag in the breasts, but large none the less. Overall a 6 I'd say, but doable. Loud moaner/screamer and enjoyed what she was doing. Black tight dress thing she wore

#2 very skinny small petite blond in school girl outfit. Probably weighed like 90lbs. Sexy though, but almost too small. 7 I'd say

#3 average sexy tallish girl with short bleached spiky hair. She hung out with #2 all day and they were kind of a team I guess. Ass a little bit bigger than the others, but nice none the less. 7 I'd say

#4 cute short brunette haired, tanned, sexy thing with smallish breasts and a nice ass. Wore a little tube top and skirt that she pulled down and up respectively when she fucked. Small tatoos. Sexy and into it. 8

#5 Tall, sexy pretty face, sexy outfit, nice firm tits, slightly thick in the thighs, but in a good way. 8, maybe 9. This is the one I creeped out unfortunately.

#6 asian/hispanic/eastern european looking, dark haired, glasses girl. Petite, lower back tatoo, sexy, confident. 8

Overall a good line up.

Finally, #4 took a guy from the bar she had been talking to and brought him down on the center stage/fck area (4 nice soft vinyl bed things) and laid him on his back and gave BBBJ. Then another guy mounted her from behind. I took this as a sign it was Ok to play. I got under and was sucking on her tits while on my back. She was in doggie with 1 guy and blowing the other. Fun times. Both guys finished and left so I immediately put on a condom and started in doggie real slow. She was mad it was so slow so I fucked her harder and came right away (had taken a cialis). Other guys took my place after that.

After the first one was out of the way, I was a bit more settled in. Went for a shower. I just wore the towel all day as my outfit and threw it on the floor when banging.

Went upstairs on the loft that overlooked the main area and had great food. Pork roast, sides, free beer (that kills my erections so I skipped). Had a plate of food and bread and dessert as there still wasn't a lot of action going on. Just watched #1 keep going with some guy dressed in a fishnet outfit.

More guys started coming in so finally girls 2 and 3 got down there and were going at it. Both were being taken from behind so I slid in front and they shared my cock (although covered was required by these girls). When 2 was done, I mounted her from behind and was close to cumming, but didn't finish. I opted to quit as she seeemd to be not wanting me to go all the way in like it was hurting her a bit.

Went back upstairs and watched for a while. Then 6 came out and just laid down and about 10 guys gathered around to take turns. They all started banging her and most were quick because for a lot of them it was the first of the day. I was about 6th in line and was also pretty quick. This was mostly missionary style, but doggie sometimes. She really liked the sex. After she was walking around naked for a while and smoking a cigarette. Very sexy. So things were going pretty good, then they died down a bit and the girls went back to sitting at the bar doing nothing. I figured they needed a break so thats OK. I ate more food because it was so good. Then I started to get a bit frustrated because it was like an hour or something with only 1 girl playing.

Back up a minute, 5 (the hot one) wasn't really partaking like the rest. She would fuck 1 guy and make out with him, then get up and leave. Then she would go with the same guy to the back room for a 3some, then come back and sit. Its like she was being picky. I thought she was maybe a wife or something, but later in the day I could tell she wasn't. I made it my goal to bang this girl later. I was just pissed you couldn't walk up to the girls and start something whenever you want. But you had to sort of wait until they were ready and this girl was being picky with who she banged.

So, after a bit of a pause in the action again, eventually everything started in full swing again. Now there were 3 girls on the main area, and 1 on each of the side areas downstairs and there were some swingers in the private rooms.

I went on to bang #3 but didn't cum, then #4 gave me a BBBJ, then nice, slow cowgirl while other guys rubbed her ass. I was relaxing on the side area later and #6 came over, laid down and just spread her legs so I did her again to completion.

I was contimplating calling it a day but figured it wouldn't hurt to hang out so I went upstairs, laid down, took a nap and ate some more dessert. Went to check on the action and now there were like 6 more girls downstairs. The swingers had started to show up. I didn't speak the language, so was hard to get in with them. They mostly would go off with a guy or two into a more private area so not every dude in there would bang them. But, 1 sexy chick was out in the middle and after fondling her nice breasts while waiting for a couple of guys to finish, I took my turn on top of her and finished again fairly quickly. Hubby was making out with her during this. This girl was probably a 7 as well. Sexy but slightly thicker thighs.

Of the swinger chicks, they were rated 9, 7, 6, 2, 8, and 5 I'd say. Would have loved to hook up with the 9, but she was never just in the middle for the taking. 1 of the swinger couples weren't really sharring, just there more to be watched I guess but that was fine.

At this point it was 20:00, I had been there 5. 5 hours, banged 5 girls a total of 7 times with 5 cums. Pretty impressed for myself as I don't think I had ever had that much sex at one time before. I felt comfortable and had a good time. I would have loved to stick around and see of the swinger chicks would keep putting out but I was spent and had to try and meet up with some people for drinks. I never gid get to bang #5 but I did she that she was spreading herself around a bit more later in the day. Still, seemed a bit particular in who she let bang her compared to the other girls.

Girls do BBBJ on an individual girl basis. But with the number of BJ they are doing and the fact that they are going from one cock to another right away I would almost say use a condom. Oh, and not a single girl there had pubic hair.

The whole time they had a DJ playing music and a guy (seemed like the owner type person) walking around making sure everything was spotlessly clean and the food was full, etc. They had porn playing on a giant projector the whole time as well (seemed like stuff they had filmed there).

Overall a great experience, especially for 90euro.

I would recommend it to anyone in town looking for this sort of action. They have different theme days but Thursday is the kinky gang bang that I went to.

[QUOTE=Finsbury]First timer for this sort of party, I'd been with escorts before, but nothing like this. Was ready to try a gangbang. [url]www.Berlinintim.de[/url] has all the info you need if you are in town and looking. Seems like there are 3-4 GB per day there.[/QUOTE]Nice report Finsbury, you are just a bit ahead of me on the curve, I will be heading over to GDR in October looking for some of the same type of experiences.

Thanks for giving me a better idea of what to look forward to!

[quote=finsbury]thursday july 8th:

first timer for this sort of party, i'd been with escorts before, but nothing like this. was ready to try a gangbang. [url]www.berlinintim.de[/url] has all the info you need if you are in town and looking. seems like there are 3-4 gb per day there.[/quote]thanks for the report. yes, as i understand it berlin is a gb mecca of sorts. lots here even small private ones advertised in various local web based ad sites. myself i have never been tempted, though if i were i think i would head on over to royal on the first tuesday of the month where they do a gb for 80€ per hour. but yours does sound a better deal even if it does sound more like a flat rate/swingers club than a true gb.

[quote=finsbury]they don't check id. so if you want, you can bring a pretty minimal amount of stuff (cash only potentially) if your worried.[/quote]just a word of caution-in germany carrying personal id is mandatory. that is the police have the right to stop and ask you to identify yourself at anytime. no id can mean a hassel and is technically illegal.

but in my 6 years here it certainly has never happened to me and for the first 4 years i was here i never carried id. it just never occurred to me and coming from n. america i assumed that, if stopped, it was no big deal.

but when visiting a club it is always wise to carry id. the clubs, though legal, do get raided every once in a while. it is a rare thing (never been in a club raid myself) but can happen. the police are interested in the girls more than the patrons as the raid is to look for illegals and **** girls-not to bust mongers as what you are doing is not against the law. but if you can not produce id the police will generally detain you and eventually escort you to your hotel to get the id. so what is a routine thing could turn into a long wait and a bit of embarrassment at the hotel as the cops escort you in.

it is just something to keep in mind. i actually carry a photo copy of my passport day by day as it is too risky to lose the real thing. friends have told me that this would satisfy most every police man unless i was sort of up to no good or perhaps a traffic stop-and i do not drive so.

but when i visit artemis i always try to remember my passport and stick it in my cash locker.

again-thanks for the report of an under reported area in the forum. i will post to the rofd thread.

am

ps-you might want to link this to the partytreff thread.maybe the one titled other partytreffs? as i say this place sounds cross between a swingers club (i understood that there were some swinger couples there?) and a flat rate. anyway-there could be some interest over there.

Ok, spending more than a week in berlin, full of business, I had my funny times as well, thanks for the info shared here.

My first visit was to euphorie massagen, on a afternoon time. Easy to find, no problems, 3 girls were available and the rooms were quite ok. I took the kamilla, nice body, full natural for a 60 mins naturist massage.

After 20 mins or so, she said sex would be possible for an extra 40 euro. The downside was, you have to get up from the bed, use your own oily hands to take the money from your wallet. I just didn't like this way. Her sex was ok, several positions, talked a little, further massage and another HJ.

All in all, it's ok but noit necessary to repeat.

Another afternoon, it was ekstase massage saloon. Be aware: there are two streets in berlin, one is ebertst. And the other one is ebertyst. What a difference a letter makes! About 6-7 km! So if you go, make sure it's the right one. Anyway arrived on scene, as described by the web site, you go upstairs using the left block and you see the door immediately. I took elena, who probably is the owner as well. Great body, very friendly, very good massage. I would rate the experience 8/10. No sex, but good DATY. I enjoyed her company, if I go again I might choose her. I was a happy man leaving the place.

Baaad experience: King George. Just wanted to try the flat rate thing, what a mistake. My golden rule in mongering: do it less but with the best! Everything was bad with kg. Some dangerous looking man at the front gate, another body guard at the payment point. There were about 5-6 girls inside (around midnight. Midweek), nearly all of the were NOT doable. I choose one rather better looking girl, supposedly from brasil. Very bad rooms, very mechanical sex. Just lay down, undress from the bikini, open legs, finish and go. In fact it was so bad, I left the place after 10 mins. Won't repeat again.

Last good experience: hauptstadt escort ([url]http://www.Hauptstadt-escort. De/[/url]). Called in the afternoon, asked for patricia, was not available so opted for lisa. The guy warned me that she is 33 (actually 36) but nevertheless I had no time to choose someone else. She arrived 20 mins late, but was lovely all in all. Didn't say no to nothing, but I was not very demanding as well. Started BBBJ (I didn't ask), than went on with covered sex (is a must). After some time gave me a long BBBJ, finishing with HJ. Very satisfied with everything. Next time I am in berlin, will choose this agency again, although they are more expensive than the others (150€ for one hour). But remember my golden rule!

That's it folks, for 10 days in berlin. I am just about to leave this nice city.

Be safe,

Alex

[QUOTE=Alex1966]

That's it folks, for 10 days in berlin. I am just about to leave this nice city.

Be safe,

Alex[/QUOTE]


Thanks Alex for the report. I posted to RofD as it contains some very relevant info. I was particularly interested in the sex possibilities at Euphoria. The website does sort of suggest that more is on offer but you never know. A first hand report is useful.

And I was a bit surprised by the positive review of hauptstadt escorts. I once used there in call location and said never again. Guess you never know with these places. I also attach a fixed link to the hauptstadt site.

[url]http://www.hauptstadt-escort.de/[/url]


AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thanks Alex for the report. I posted to RofD as it contains some very relevant info. I was particularly interested in the sex possibilities at Euphoria. The website does sort of suggest that more is on offer but you never know. A first hand report is useful.

And I was a bit surprised by the positive review of hauptstadt escorts. I once used there in call location and said never again. Guess you never know with these places. I also attach a fixed link to the hauptstadt site.

[url]http://www.hauptstadt-escort.de/[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]And to my surprise, there were some good reports about KG? I think different days and different moods make a real difference in the expereience. Especially with the working women, their moods cont be expected to be up up up everyday.

Alex

I was in Berlin last weekend and try to kill the night time with some entertainmet, in fact I'm not a soccer fan anyway. Stay at radisson in mitte and after all I called My escort berlin. Friendly guy at the line and after I told him what I want quickly somebody was knocking the door. Julia_2, very pretty girl, and for my opinion better than the Pics at the webside.

After some conversation, we come to the point what she came for. Nice GFE, deep kissing and a good service. Very clean lady (after a bad experience in Dubai, that the smell from upstairs was nearly killing me), I enjoyed the short hour. Price(90euro) was ok and I gave her a tip of $20 for the good service. She was asking if I want to extend, but I denied, because I didn't sleep the whole week and my flight was early in the morning. Pretty sure, if I have the time to go back to berlin I will call the agency again.

[url]http://www.Myescortberlin.com[/url]

Good hunting and take care out there.

Hi Guys

I will be going to Berlin in September/October time frame. I am really looking for Turkish chicks.

Can you recommend any websites or particular places that are exclusively Turkish chicks or have a high number. Also, any websites where we can search by nationality?

After Turkish my favorite is Greek. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

There is plenty of Turkish talent:

[url]http://www.Myescortberlin.com/girl/Cermin.html[/url]
[url]http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/bordelle/aura.html[/url]

At Artemis: Samira (small spinner) and friend Berna. There are several others.

Greek:
[url]http://www.Myescortberlin.com/girl/Julia_2.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Cool Morris]Hi Guys

I will be going to Berlin in September/October time frame. I am really looking for Turkish chicks.

Can you recommend any websites or particular places that are exclusively Turkish chicks or have a high number. Also, any websites where we can search by nationality?

After Turkish my favorite is Greek. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk]There is plenty of Turkish talent:[/QUOTE]

True that. In Berlin you just have to look. There are often Turkish girls who work the smaller Neuköln brothels.

For instance: [url]http://www.erotische-modelle.de/siebel.html[/url]

And you might find one here: [url]http://www.club-elfen.de/index.php[/url]

Though often Turkish girls get mixed up with the more common Bulgarian and Romanian girls.Though be warned, Club Elfen is truly one of the slaziest, nastiest Berlin brothels.

Sometimes Turkish girls do not advertise themselves as Turkish. I am not sure why, if they try to hide it or more likely, make themselves more exotic.
i.e. two girls I have visited at Liberty were Turkish, yet bot advertised as Oriental.I always think of Oriental and being from the far east. In fact a Turkey is really the start of the Orient and so this label.

One of the Liberty girls (Jenny) is no longer there. Vivien still works but is very, very part time. There is a report of Vivien in the forum by myself.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/vivien.html[/url]

AM

Just a short note-I have to say i do not like this new very short edit time allowed here on the forum. I used to have 8 hrs or so to edit & correct small mistakes in my posts. Now it seems less than an hour and the edit button disappears. I have to wonder why this is?

But in the end i guess I will have to read & proof my posts before pressing send in the future. Small typos are not a big deal but the perfectionist in me wants my posts to be without typos.

AM

Here is a Greek girl if her press is to be believed. Personally I think she could also be Bulgarian...

[url]http://www.haushotelbesuche.de/girl/Natja.html[/url]

She is also shown on other sites (I have no idea of the connection between the various cheap escort services in Berlin but it seems they are all connected, maybe run by the same people, as the girls often appear on several different sites) and is available at Kino 3 in Kreuzberg.

[url]http://www.kino-friesen3.de/nadja.html[/url]

I do seem to remember a report or two on her in the German forums and I also remember the reports were not great. But her breasts do look spectacular, if probably enhanced.

If you go to Artemis look for Rosie. She is actually Bulgarian but insists that she is Greek and I believe she has at least one Greek parent and has lived there, speaking the language fluently. And to top it off she is a nice girl who gives a dynamite session.

I am prone the tipogrfical errors more than you but would alsoappreciate lttle more time to corect things.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just a short note-I have to say i do not like this new very short edit time allowed here on the forum. I used to have 8 hrs or so to edit & correct small mistakes in my posts. Now it seems less than an hour and the edit button disappears. I have to wonder why this is?

But in the end i guess I will have to read & proof my posts before pressing send in the future. Small typos are not a big deal but the perfectionist in me wants my posts to be without typos.

AM[/QUOTE]

Intriguing BoBos.
Can you remind or link in something about Kino 3 and how that works.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Here is a Greek girl if her press is to be believed. Personally I think she could also be Bulgarian...

[url]http://www.haushotelbesuche.de/girl/Natja.html[/url]

She is also shown on other sites (I have no idea of the connection between the various cheap escort services in Berlin but it seems they are all connected, maybe run by the same people, as the girls often appear on several different sites) and is available at Kino 3 in Kreuzberg.

[url]http://www.kino-friesen3.de/nadja.html[/url]

I do seem to remember a report or two on her in the German forums and I also remember the reports were not great. But her breasts do look spectacular, if probably enhanced.

If you go to Artemis look for Rosie. She is actually Bulgarian but insists that she is Greek and I believe she has at least one Greek parent and has lived there, speaking the language fluently. And to top it off she is a nice girl who gives a dynamite session.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just a short note-I have to say i do not like this new very short edit time allowed here on the forum.[/QUOTE]
I guess that while some like you only correct typos, others completely change the contents and nature of their posts and make moderation of the forum harder, forcing moderators to read back more posts each time and re-read posts he has already been through before.

Jim

Thanks guys, Turkish chicks are hot. I guess there is no all Turkish Kinos or Brothels. There are millions of Turks I thought there would be more.

[QUOTE=Cool Morris]Thanks guys, Turkish chicks are hot. I guess there is no all Turkish Kinos or Brothels. There are millions of Turks I thought there would be more.[/QUOTE]

Yes I have to agree. I often admire their slightly slutty sense of style on the street. But as far as I know there is no exclusively Turkish kino or brothel. But then there is no kino or brothel dedicated to any other single ethnic group/nationality either. Except of course Thai massage and some Kino are also pretty heavy on the Thai girls.

AM

[QUOTE=Bearsk]Intriguing BoBos.
Can you remind or link in something about Kino 3 and how that works.[/QUOTE]


Well a Kino is really just a variation on a brothel with a public option. You pay to get in (usually 5 or 6 €) and sit in a small kino with high backed booths. The girls hang out and will come by to ask if you want company. if yes they will sit and and offer sexual services.You can have a hj, bj and probably even fs in the kino. Though most kinos are not really set up for the public fs option. You would have to do it more or less sitting up or along a thin bench. There are also rooms in the back where you can go. The prices are relatively cheap (25-30 for cbj-50 for fs in a room) but once you figure in the entry fee, not that much cheaper than a bordello like Liberty. For me it was just, for a while, a thrill to be able to make a late night visit to a local place and satisfy the urge. But upon reflection I realized I was paying too much for too low quality. That is the women in a kino can be down right scary. For another 5 € I could go to Liberty, have a beauty in a nice setting and feel way more satisfied. I just could not do this at 03:00 a.m.

This particular kino seems to be a sort of central escort terminus. All the girls there you will find on one or another escort site, and as I say they must all be connected. Bur reports from the German forums on this place are almost universally bad. From what I read it is actually a nicely set up place that used to be regarded very well but is avoided with the current owner ship. I have often been tempted to make a visit but never enough to actually do it.

Finally have a chance to get back to Berlin. Will make a visit to King George for sure, but then I'm wondering if it is worth trying the other flat-rate, Caligula?

Will arrive around mignight and check in to some hotel somewhere close to Kudam. From my last trip I remember that I could not find any brothels open at that time. Does anybody on this board know if there is any brothel open after midnight in walking distance from Kudam?

[QUOTE=Bearsk]There is plenty of Turkish talent:

[url]http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/bordelle/aura.html[/url]

Actually I think that Aura is from Romania, but it is possible that she is half Turkish.

Hi,

Made my debut at Tiffany's on Tuesday. Bordellos are not really my thing these days, now that I've discovered FKK's, but I had a sort of fancy for Pia from the website so I made an appointment for 11am and headed over to Kreuzberg. Actually, it's not really a Kreuzberg address at all, the building is only 100m from Kottbusser Tor U-bahn station - one of the most notoriuos druggie hangouts in the city

[url]http://ritter11.de/bordell-girls/pia.php[/url]

Tiffanys is on the 4th floor of a converted factory building - the owner has taken an open workspace and divided it into 16 fuckrooms and a few lounges and bathrooms. I only saw a small part of the club but it seems to be nicely furnished.

Pia was prettier and younger in the flesh than I'd expected. She is a pretty blonde, but heavily made up. She was pleasant, but super-detached and professional. All fake moaning, and unconvincing writhing; I'm sure you're all familiar with the type.

I would say that she gives decent service, and in no way would I suggest that she had failed to deliver what was offered, it's just that the whole thing was so uninspiring.

Pricing was very fair - 80E for 40 minutes plus only 15 euro extra for 'Gesichtbesamung' ('Cumface' as she described it in her cute accent), and to her credit, when the vital moment came, she thrust her face right in the line of fire and took my load like a pornstar practitioner.

I probably would try Tiffs again if one of the girls caught my eye on the website, just to make sure that my first impressions were not misplaced, but I must say that from what I have seen to date I have a suspicion that, whilst I'm sure that it is a well-run and honest bordello, Tiffany's is a somewhat soulless and clinical environment in which to get laid.

Cheers,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Hardbone]Finally have a chance to get back to Berlin. Will make a visit to King George for sure, but then I'm wondering if it is worth trying the other flat-rate, Caligula?[/QUOTE]

Let's face it in the end, cheap pussy is cheap pussy. If the idea of getting lots of it appeals then I am sure either the KG or Caligula will fit the bill. Reports seem to vary for both places, from the very bad to the okay. From the web sites both seem to have some girls who are okay looking. It is the attitude you may run into that worries me.

[QUOTE=Hardbone]Will arrive around mignight and check in to some hotel somewhere close to Kudam. From my last trip I remember that I could not find any brothels open at that time. Does anybody on this board know if there is any brothel open after midnight in walking distance from Kudam?[/QUOTE]

Mon Rouge is just off the Kudamm and it is open late(02:00 a.m.?) But it is not cheap pussy. Good though. Look for some reports in the thread as there are quite a few. [url]http://www.monrouge.de/models_en.html[/url]


Not exactly just off the Kudamm, but pretty close is Mona's at Kantstr. 74. It is in the 50 € / half hour range and open all night until 5-6 a.m. The website actually states that they are moving Aug. 2 to 35a Libnitzstr. which is practically next door to Mon Rouge so it soon will be just off the Kudamm.

[url]http://www.mona-kant74.de/galerie.html[/url]

AM

I'm staying in Kreuzberg for the weekend. Any brothels close by. I did a web search and Tiffanys is near my hotel. Any others?

[quote=charlie 123]hi,

tiffany's is a somewhat soulless and clinical environment in which to get laid.

cheers,

charlie[/quote]charlie,

i couldn't agree with you more. i was hooked in by an outstanding website with videos and lots of pix. went there on a friday night (i know, i know) and had a chance to look at 4 women. chose [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], a very young college student who spoke english. after agreeing on an hour-long visit, she walked me through the massive complex to the very last bedroom.

after explaining that the only extra she offerd was bbbj for another 20 euro, i was made to wash my privates from a sink in the corner of the room. when i landed on the massive bed, i got a whiff of some previous occupant's body odor. not a great way to start.

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] was a beautiful clock watcher. good conversationalist, but very mechanical. was called off from some spontaneous finger fucking. and a run-through of her hair with my fingers found that she was wearing a wig. at this point, i was thinking that i should have stayed at my hotel (the savoy on fasenstrasse, which i can recommend without reservation as a modest and comfortable place to call home in berlin) and done the job myself.

after some perfunctory sex, i dressed and was asked if i wanted to have a cab called. i was shown the back door, which led down four flights to a vacant and unlit courtyard. after a few turns in the dark, i ended up on the street with the cab, incredibly, idling and waiting for me. the most remarkable thing about tiffany's!

all in all, i should have gone to k-d. my favorite bordello in the world.

[QUOTE=Frank Cooper]I'm staying in Kreuzberg for the weekend. Any brothels close by. I did a web search and Tiffanys is near my hotel. Any others?[/QUOTE]


If you are close to Tiffany's you are also close to Sternchen but I do not recommend Sternchen. Here is the website anyway.

[url]http://www.club-sternchen.de/[/url]

Nice looking girls on the website but IME the ones they show when you arrive are not as nice. Buyer beware.

You are also reasonably close to Neuköln where there are many brothels. But you will have to do the research yourself and ask specific questions if you have them.

Do not forget to give back with a report.

AM

[QUOTE=Europunter]

All in all, I should have gone to K-D. My favorite bordello in the world.[/QUOTE]Really?

I have never been there myself, having been put off by a combination of the website and the house rules concerning safe oral sex. I just can't get excited about the idea of a BJ with a condom.

I note from your posting history that you seem to get about a bit internationally, so your strong recommendation for KD is persuasive to me. Perhaps I should give it a try - what it is in particular that causes you to rate KD so highly?

Best wishes,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]If you are close to Tiffany's you are also close to Sternchen but I do not recommend Sternchen. Here is the website anyway.

[url]http://www.club-sternchen.de/[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]FYI, I went there (albeit 2 years ago), and found it to be a vile place. This is what I wrote:

[quote]Sternchen - avoid

Sternchen LAST WEEK. NO GOOD!

I quite liked the look of their website and previous reports on this forum were not unpromising, so I took myself off to the East side last week for a session.

Never again!

The building is in a grubby street, with a burned out car outside the front door. The entrance is grimy, with no proper signage or doorbell. I had already blown out at a couple of other places earleir in the afternoon, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to go in. The entrance foyer of the appartment was milling with people, a few of the girls and a couple of blokes who probably work there. Not at all discreet. I had called in advance to establish that a certain girl was on duty that afternoon. Christina, and was assured that she was.

The Hausmutti showed me into one of their rooms, an unattractively furnished and somewhat dingy room that was a clear step down from the Charlottenberg appartments that I have become accustomed to. 3 girls appeared. All viciously ugly. Nevertheless, I chose the one who called herself Christina, although she bore no resemblance to the girl of that name on the website. She was a dumpy thing in a basque, big tits but a sullen round face and unfriendly demeanour. She quoted 50E for a basic session of 1/2 hour. When I enquired as to extras such as FO (specifically offered on the webpage), she said she didn't do that. That was enough for me. I left promptly and went back to Monrouge for another session with the delectable Jasmin.

I felt like I was back in the UK in some filthy crack-***** den up north. In short, there is no reason for anyone to waste their money at Sternchen when there are so many better clubs in town. Even if I just caught them on a bad day, I would never again bother to traipse across town on the off chance that they have cleaned up their act. I suggest that you don't either.

Cheers

Charlie[/quote]Be warned.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]FYI, I went there (albeit 2 years ago), and found it to be a vile place. This is what I wrote:

Be warned.[/QUOTE]

I doubt very much that it has changed at all in two years, except for the fancier web site. Last time I was there I ended up with a pretty nice looking but extremely surly young lady. I swore I would never return and so far I have not even been tempted. I just mention it in the interest of giving the OP the option. I would also say this about Club Elfen which I mentioned in another post. Go only if you like the nastier side of Berlin mongering.

AM

Regular readers will know just what is my opinion of the high class Berlin brothel VK. But to recap-it is a luxurious place with a selection of heavily photoshopped beauties beauties on the website. But I have been treated there, not so much by the girls but by the hausfrau, as a second class customer. I often wonder if I should give them another chance but so far have never been tempted.

However, in the interest of giving credit-they have recently opened a roof top terrace that you can book for an open air session. On the website it looks quite nice. I do have to wonder though about the shot of the Berlin evening sky with fire works. A not so subliminal message of how your session will turn out? Certainly the picture seems in line with the website's love of the photoshop-ic arts.

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/dachterrasse.html[/url]

Certainly a report of this would be a welcome addition to the forum.

AM

Hi Charlie,

I believe when we were discussing your experiences at MR that you mentioned a young lady (whose name now escapes me) who you had visited at MR and is no longer there. The link to the VK website is for a young lady who now goes by the name of Carmen and who used to work at MR, though again I can not remember the name. I believe she is Romanian and does get pretty good reports.

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/carmen.html[/url]

AM

while i know that you asked ep i myself have some strong opinions about this brothel and its' excellence so i thought i would also offer them. i hope ep also signs in as i woud be interested in a second opinion.

kd is, as i understand it one of the longest running brothels in berlin. and it is one of the biggest supporters of sex workers rights and safety, thus the infamous no bbbj rule. while i also am no big fan of condoms when it comes to blow jobs, i also do recognize the health risks involved, especially for the blower i.e. the lady. it has also been my long and maybe controversial view that a condom used during a blow job has mainly a psychological effect. that is, if (and i admit it is a big if) the blower knows what she is doing, and truly pays attention to your "unit", then you will not notice the condom.

in support of this i will mention a particularly memorable bj i received from a street girl way back in my toronto street days. the blow job was ,as far as i knew, without condom. it was spectacular and included cim & swallow as the young lady did not spit out next to the car upon completion. the only trouble was that upon arriving home and going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] i discovered a cum filled condom on my cock. the lady had applied it with her mouth unknown to me and i never felt the difference. more recently i had with katja at bernds a session in which i thought, when she mounted me in cow girl, i was going in bare back. i had to look down to discover that in the later stage of a bbbj she had covered me up before fucking. again, i had no idea that there was any change in sensation in the blow job itself.

it always puts me in mind of the story in which two buddhist monks stand arguing about a finer spiritual point with regard to a flag flapping in the breeze. the one monk insists that it is the wind moving the flag that they are seeing. the second monk is equally insistant that it is the flag that moves the wind. he has spent perhaps too much time in his isolation cell. finally along comes a third monk, one who has spent many, many years contemplating such things. when asked the the question-which is it, the the wind moving the flag or the flag moving the wind, he says: you are both wrong, it is mind that moves both the wind and the flag.

my point can perhaps be more succinctly made by an old jewish saying taught to me by an israeli gf from my youth: never mind the potatoes if the soup is good.

all that being said, i have had some of my very best sessions ever at kd. if you can chose well off the website, which is getting more difficult as so many of the girls now chose not to be pictured, you have a high likelihood of a great session. the girls who work there are generally happy to be there and like the job. so if there is even a little bit of chemistry she will give it her all.

i myself have not been there for a while. but this is mostly, as we discussed, due to the charms of artemis, not that i find kd lacking. and from a financial point of view, which may not play a big a role for you as it does for me sometimes, kd is nice as you know that the session price will not skyrocket as a result of my suddenly wanting kissing, bbbj and cim. by way of comparison, a royal session can jump from 150 for the hour to 200+ when you ad on a few extras. and at kd, if the girl kisses (not all will kiss all customers, depends on chemistry) you will not be charged extra. one girl i used to see mainly for the kissing. we got along well and she was a spectacular kisser. sadly she is no longer there.

so maybe this goes a little way in explaining kds appeal for some. it is true that it is lacking in the bbbj department. but the level of service you can receive there is sometimes off the charts.

regards

am

I have just finished and published a new post on Angus' blog. The subject tantra in general and in Berlin.

[url]www.angusmagee.com[/url]

Read, enjoy comment. You can now follow me on twitter where I publish links to all new posts as well as sometimes interesting comments. It took me a while to get on the twitter bus and I am still not all there with it, but it is fun.

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AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Charlie,

I believe when we were discussing your experiences at MR that you mentioned a young lady (whose name now escapes me) who you had visited at MR and is no longer there. The link to the VK website is for a young lady who now goes by the name of Carmen and who used to work at MR, though again I can not remember the name. I believe she is Romanian and does get pretty good reports.

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/carmen.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]I think you're right.

I had seen the photos of this girl Carmen on the VK website and I had put her on the 'must do' list. If she had been available last week when I was in Berlin then I'd have paid her a visit. I didn't recognise her as being the ex-Monrouge lass, but now I have compared the VK pics to the stored photo of the MR girl on my computer and I think you are correct in suggesting that they are one and the same girl.

The girl in question was known at MR as 'Katherina' , and I had an inferior session with her despite the fact that her figure and general physical profile accords precisely with my preferences (i.e. she's got huge titties)

Her pics are still available to view on the net:-

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/katharina.html[/url]

Best

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]All that being said, I have had some of my very best sessions ever at KD. If you can chose well off the website, which is getting more difficult as so many of the girls now chose not to be pictured, you have a high likelihood of a great session. The girls who work there are generally happy to be there and like the job. So if there is even a little bit of chemistry she will give it her all.

So maybe this goes a little way in explaining KDs appeal for some. It is true that it is lacking in the bbbj department. But the level of service you can receive there is sometimes off the charts.

Regards

AM[/QUOTE]Ok, buddy, you talked me into it!

Report coming next week. Margo and/or Fiona the most likely candidates.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Ok, buddy, you talked me into it!

Report coming next week. Margo and/or Fiona the most likely candidates.

Charlie[/QUOTE]

Hope it all goes well. And I am sure that the old Charlie 123 charm will have which ever, or both of them, eating from your palms. Look at the performance that you recently managed to coax out of little Gabitza (sp?) at Artemis.

I did do a check on the German forum for both and came up with a very good report on Margo. Apparently the breasts are huge and quite natural;)

AM

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Really?

Perhaps I should give it a try - what it is in particular that causes you to rate KD so highly?

Best wishes,

Charlie[/QUOTE]Hi Charlie,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you - have been trying to shrug off a summer cold -- nothing worse - and have not been on for a few days.

While I won't be as eloquent as Angus (few are!) I can tell you that KD has an ambience/decor/environment that is unmatched in my visits to brothels elsewhere in Germany, UK and in the Far East. I feel as if you're very well respected there and the cleanliness is hard to beat. (I delight in taking a shower in the second floor bathroom with ample towels, disposable tooth brushes, robes, etc.) They also go out of their way in making sure that you don't see any other clients -- a doorbell-like warning system keeps the girls from taking you out while another client is coming or going.

And then there are the women -- I've had parades of up to eight women on an early evening and as few as four at other times. The decision is always tough, but I've only been disappointed once in performance -- (Flavia) As far as BBBJ goes - the application technique and eye contact that many of them employ is world-class.

IMHO K-D has all of the ingredients needed to assure you that your hard earned dollars/euros are well spent. Hmmmm -- I could use an afternoon visit there soon --- but alas, my travel schedule this fall has me in Koeln and Duesseldorf - not Berlin. On to Traum Paridies or Teenyland as I've learned about on the Koeln page.

Best,

Europunter

Guys one question which of these cities are better to pick up and fuck blonde women?? whether they are pros or freebies: Berlin or Madrid??

I have to chose between these 2 cities to go on for work for some time and I have preference for blonde women, thus I would like to chose the city that is more suitable to find and fuck them, I have been in Madrid but I am not that familiar with Berlin although my guess is that Berlin is better for that.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Ok, buddy, you talked me into it!

Report coming next week. Margo and/or Fiona the most likely candidates.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Having seen Fiona several times, I can only recommend you call KD to try and book her for an appointment, even if she's not listed on the current schedule on the website ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/presence-1.htm[/url]). She might be on holiday, or just taking it easy.

Fiona is an absolute gem, and will do her utmost to satisfy you, and is quite open-minded. When I've seen her, I've been fully satisfied, and have left KD on legs that were a bit "unruly".

My last visit to KD was without an appointment, and I ended having a 1 hour session with Cat ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/cat.htm[/url]), who is much better looking in person, than the slightly photoshopped pictures on the site. When I saw her, she was quite playful and perky, had a great time with her, and we ended up going over time with our little pillow talk. Am definitely going to see her again, perhaps very soon

Earlier this year, I had a session with Tony ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/tony.htm[/url]), who had recently started at KD (perhaps in the business entirely). She was a little nervous/shy at first, but soon warmed up, and we had some great times. Loved her short hair and tiny frame. At the end of the session, there was no shyness left in her

At some point last year, I had a delightful session with Charlotte ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/charlotte.htm[/url]). Started out slowly with massage and chat, and ending up with slow, joyful sex. Loved the feeling of her amazingly long arms and legs around me in missionary. Charlotte has enhanced breasts (too firm for my tastes) that look very nice and suit her quite well.

Sessions of 45 mins or longer takes you to the upstairs rooms, which are quite nice. There are also showers available.

I've never experienced being rushed at KD, and have on more than one occasion gone over time because of chatting with the lady, initiated by them. I've also never experienced any upselling at KD.

The only time I've been disappointed, was a Sunday afternoon where the hausfrau told me that there were no ladies available for at least another two hours. I guess I wasn't the only one wanting a quality session that day Ended up wandering down to VK and had a great time there, so not all that disappointed.

P.S. Sorry about the lack of reporting, have been very passive here, I'll try and do a post after my next outing.

[QUOTE=Strike 69]Guys one question which of these cities are better to pick up and fuck blonde women?? whether they are pros or freebies: Berlin or Madrid??

I have to chose between these 2 cities to go on for work for some time and I have preference for blonde women, thus I would like to chose the city that is more suitable to find and fuck them, I have been in Madrid but I am not that familiar with Berlin although my guess is that Berlin is better for that.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]


Trouble is that many of the pros, at least at the cheaper end of things where you could pick them up & fuck then, are from South Europe i.e. Bulgaria, Romania, and tend to be dark hired.

But hey, this is Deutschland, home of the pneumatic Blond warrior. If you are willing to pay, and willing to pay a bit more, you can find the blondest blond you'd ever want here in Berlin.

Artemis would be a good place to start.

[QUOTE=Paddington]Fiona is an absolute gem, and will do her utmost to satisfy you, and is quite open-minded. When I've seen her, I've been fully satisfied, and have left KD on legs that were a bit "unruly".[/QUOTE]

I love it when this happens. I have often thought that KD should offer a wheelchair service up to the UBahn for such sessions;)

And your experience is pretty much spot on as far as I am concerned. I have never been rushed at KD, especially on the longer sessions that take you upstairs. I can remember quiet afternoon visits with my no longer working Russian minx April where we had the whole upstairs to ourselves and lounged around the best part of half an hour over time. I feel it is always best to let the girl know that you are aware of the time, but then if she is okay with it, just follow her lead. Unless the place is hopping and the room needed, you will not be rushed out.

My only disappointment at KD was a session with new girl, quite young and obviously inexperienced. First I found her a bit large for my tastes. Very sweet girl and she actually gave me a bbbj and I am sure cim if I wanted. Now I am under no illusion that Angus' dick tastes like candy and the girls can not resist to put it unsheathed in their mouths. I literally think I was her first or second customer ever and she somehow did not know the house guideline. And as far as I know it is a guideline and not a rule. That is, the girls can give bbbj if they want, but most (all)do not want and the house will always support this-so don't go demanding!

Trouble was that her bj was one of the worst in living memory. It was a bad bj for the ages, toothy and shallow, and had me wishing for hand support. I finally had to stop her just to keep Little A from shrinking completely back into my scrotum. In the end I settled for a titty fuck as she was well stacked and that is a treat I only enjoy from time to time due to my preference towards small breasted providers.

As for Sunday-it is a bad day in General to visit bordellos (Artemis excepted) in Berlin. Up until a few years back most were closed. Now they open but often with way less staff than is really needed. I am guessing that many girls like their Sundays off. Who can blame them? For Sunday visits I would always suggest looking at the website, making a couple of choices, then phoning ahead for an appointment. Even then you may be disappointed as I have experienced that even girls listed as working on Sunday do not show up for work.

Thanks for the report Paddington. Better late than never I always say. And your contribution was of some quality KD girls which is very useful.

Regards

AM

[QUOTE=Paddington]Having seen Fiona several times, I can only recommend you call KD to try and book her for an appointment, even if she's not listed on the current schedule on the website ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/presence-1.htm[/url]). She might be on holiday, or just taking it easy.

Fiona is an absolute gem, and will do her utmost to satisfy you, and is quite open-minded. When I've seen her, I've been fully satisfied, and have left KD on legs that were a bit "unruly".

My last visit to KD was without an appointment, and I ended having a 1 hour session with Cat ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/cat.htm[/url]), who is much better looking in person, than the slightly photoshopped pictures on the site. When I saw her, she was quite playful and perky, had a great time with her, and we ended up going over time with our little pillow talk. Am definitely going to see her again, perhaps very soon

Earlier this year, I had a session with Tony ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/tony.htm[/url]), who had recently started at KD (perhaps in the business entirely). She was a little nervous/shy at first, but soon warmed up, and we had some great times. Loved her short hair and tiny frame. At the end of the session, there was no shyness left in her

At some point last year, I had a delightful session with Charlotte ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/charlotte.htm[/url]). Started out slowly with massage and chat, and ending up with slow, joyful sex. Loved the feeling of her amazingly long arms and legs around me in missionary. Charlotte has enhanced breasts (too firm for my tastes) that look very nice and suit her quite well.

Sessions of 45 mins or longer takes you to the upstairs rooms, which are quite nice. There are also showers available.

I've never experienced being rushed at KD, and have on more than one occasion gone over time because of chatting with the lady, initiated by them. I've also never experienced any upselling at KD.

The only time I've been disappointed, was a Sunday afternoon where the hausfrau told me that there were no ladies available for at least another two hours. I guess I wasn't the only one wanting a quality session that day Ended up wandering down to VK and had a great time there, so not all that disappointed.

P.S. Sorry about the lack of reporting, have been very passive here, I'll try and do a post after my next outing.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for your input - much food for thought.

I did once go to KD's - I had a friend with me in town and wanted him to sample the best that Berlin had to offer. We'd been to Artemis the evening before and I had had an early morning session at MR, so it was purely for his benefit that we went to KD. The hausmutti was pretty unfriendly and unhelpful and the 4 girls she brought for him to see were all extremely sub-par. I also recall the room in which we met the girls being pretty dingy and poor by comparison to the place I'd just visited (Monrouge). He declined all 4 girls and we left. That brief encounter, combined with some of the restrictive policies of the house (covered BJ etc) have conspired to somewhat put me off the place, perhaps incorrectly.

Pursuant to the very positive endorsements that I've read here in the last few days, I'm going to give it another shot next week.

Of course, I will be sure to post my observations here

Thanx again for your comprehensive response

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Pursuant to the very positive endorsements that I've read here in the last few days, I'm going to give it another shot next week.[/QUOTE]I hope you will have a great time at KD

Inspired by last nights reading and writing, I opted to swing by KD early this evening, hoping to see either Cat or Miranda ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/miranda.htm[/url]) who has been on my todo list since she joined KD.

Apparently both girls were busy, I didn't book in advance, so the hausfrau offered me the parade, and I ended up choosing to have a 1 hour session with Atropa ([url]http://www.Kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/atropa.htm[/url]), I chose her mainly since she seemed the most friendly of 6 girls available.

We got the transaction (€160) out of the way, and I waited in the room, while she sorted out keys with the hausfrau.

We went upstairs, I had a shower (much needed after a day of work) while she went to get me my drink. We started out on the sofa with a little cuddling and getting to know each other. Quickly she asked if I'd like to kiss her, which I couldn't refuse. It didn't take long to get into the mood, so she took my hand and lead me to the bed for some more groping and kissing.

She offered me a massage, and since I was somewhat tired and wanting companionship as much as sex, I accepted. We had a very nice time, with all sorts of little chit chat. Eventually, she laid down beside me and got down to business.

After putting on the condom she gave me a very nice BJ, paying adequate attention to the balls as well

Eventually she decided that I shouldn't be the only one taking pleasure, so we ended up with some nice 69 action, which she seemed quite into.

After this we moved on to a very slow cowgirl ride, still with kissing and gentle caressing and fondling.

Ended up taking her from behind, which was quite enjoyable.

At one point during the act, she commented that I was a very gentle and attentive lover. This took me quite by surprise, since I wasn't really bringing my best today. But, a nice surprise nevertheless.

For those that are hung up on physical attributes: I would say that she's got B-cups, nice round bottom and hips, good for hanging on to in doggy, long black hair, three tattoos, a little piercing in her nose.

Was it worth it?

I would consider this a GFE, and would gladly repeat. Hell, if I had this kind of sex with girlfriends, I would also gladly repeat

I am however, still quite into Cat's fun and perky personality, and will most likely book her for an appointment next time, or Fiona if she turns up on the schedule again (which I am sure she will).

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I love it when this happens. I have often thought that KD should offer a wheelchair service up to the UBahn for such sessions.[/QUOTE]That's not a bad idea, or perhaps a little lounge where you can sit and enjoy a beer and a smile, while waiting for your legs to go back to normal.

Just wanted to say thanks for the extensive reporting by you, and all the contributors. It's certainly made it very easy for me to figure out where I want to spend my €'s

[QUOTE=Charlie 123] The hausmutti was pretty unfriendly and unhelpful and the 4 girls she brought for him to see were all extremely sub-par. I also recall the room in which we met the girls being pretty dingy and poor by comparison to the place I'd just visited (Monrouge)[/QUOTE]

While I can not speak for the Hausmutti you met I have always found them to be polite & helpful. But then for some reason I have never shown up at KD unannounced and always had a termine with a particular girl. So my contact with the Huasmuttis has been minimal and restricted to-Guten Tag, Ich habe Termine mit..

As for the premises-downstairs where you are greeted and shown the girls is not as nice as upstairs where you go for the longer sessions. There is one downstairs room I have used which is nice but still not so nice as upstairs. And over all the apartment in which KD is housed is not as nice as MR. That is MR is located in what is, in my opinion, the best Berlin has to offer in apartments. It is an "Altbau" building (meaning old) with towering ceilings and some big room. Once I had discovered the big middle room in MR (the one with the big bed, slightly raised, in the middle of the room) I always tried to arrange for my session in it by asking specifically for the room.

KD is in a much newer building and the ceilings are just of normal height. The rooms are nice upstairs (the "harem" room in the left hand side apartment is the best IMO) but not quite so breathtaking as the big MR rooms.

But by far the best apartment, better than either MR or KD. in Berlin is Royal on Bundesplatz. This place has some rooms that make you think you have fallen into another world. Not all of them of course, but some rooms are just huge and very beautifully furnished and appointed. One of the rooms, in a sort of African theme, even has a large cage for some kind of fantasy game. It is not all tacky, dark s/m ad creepy, but similar to the sort of cage a big game hunter might bring with him upon returning from the dark continent containing a Nubian slave girl.

As you can see. ol' Angus' fantasies went into high gear seeing the cage. I have yet to return though to pursue this fantasy & make use of the cage.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Trouble is that many of the pros, at least at the cheaper end of things where you could pick them up & fuck then, are from South Europe i.e. Bulgaria, Romania, and tend to be dark hired.

But hey, this is Deutschland, home of the pneumatic Blond warrior. If you are willing to pay, and willing to pay a bit more, you can find the blondest blond you'd ever want here in Berlin.

Artemis would be a good place to start.[/QUOTE]

Thank you, I hope to find a larger selection of blonde women in Berlin that what I've found in Madrid, I will check that Artemis club out and FKK La Folie seems to be an interesting place. After trying some pros I will go and try luck with some German freebie, any recommendations on that? I speak some German but never lived in Berlin before, so I suspect local German women behave somewhat different than those found in the provinces.

[QUOTE=Strike 69]Thank you, I hope to find a larger selection of blonde women in Berlin that what I've found in Madrid, I will check that Artemis club out and FKK La Folie seems to be an interesting place. After trying some pros I will go and try luck with some German freebie, any recommendations on that? I speak some German but never lived in Berlin before, so I suspect local German women behave somewhat different than those found in the provinces.[/QUOTE]


Well, I am not a great expert in the freebie scene. I seem to like my pussy paid for directly in the hand;)

But I am told often that freebies are easy to find here and that Berlin women are pretty liberal in attitude. It is just not my experience as I do not look for it really.

As for La Folie-for blonds you will have better luck, at higher expense but better (I feel) value at Artemis. You may find an older blond at La Folie but the girls there do tend to be Romanian, Bulgarian or Polish with the occasional German. Artemis also has a fair number of EE girls but also more German blonds.

You might want to also check out KD, Liberty and Royal, all bordello apartments.

1) Hausmutti
I found them nice, sometimes they may chat and joke, easy smiling.
The problem with me, a no-German speaking guy is that I met more often than in the past hausmuttis who speak only German (in general, they asked an English speaking working lady to help them).

2) Working ladies
To avoid misunderstandings, my personal opinion is that most of the ladies working at KD are much more "girl next door", "office/university colleague" type than "magazine models" type.
So before deciding where to go, do you know which type of ladies are you looking for ?

Sunday 18th :
Jennifer ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/jenniff-e.htm[/url] ) was fully booked until her departure but I could ask to meet her for few minutes before she left : she's very cute; I told her as she was not planned to work on the following days (before wednesday) I would propose her some "private meetings" ("escorts") on monday or tuesday.

I unsuccesfully asked for "private meeting" ("escorts") with : June, Cora, Cat, Liz and Marianna.
For the second time (the first time should be in March) I was said that, now, Cora ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/coraa-e.htm[/url] ) and her friend June ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/june.htm[/url] ) practised only bizaar games. I wonder if it's just "diplomatical" justifications for their refusal.

Monday 19th :
a) Morning :
I saw a guy wearing a Dutch orange football team tee-shirt (I don't give the number (beginning by1) for his privacy; is he a ISG forumer ?); I thought he spent time with Sunny because after his entrance, I was said that she was busy.
I liked Alex (new ? she does not have her web page yet : when I click on Alex on the schedule, I get Louisa's page) when she introduced herself to me but she warned me that she would not kiss (me ?)
Finally, I met Sunny but just for 45 minutes because she had already a meeting scheduled.

b) Night
During the afternoon, I tried to ask for a "private meeting" with Jennifer but finally, for private reasons, she would be able to meet me only on tuesday night.
I spent 90 minutes with Cat who gave me a very nice erotic massage.

I noted that the restaurant "Momo" at the corner was closed definitely : what's a pity, especially in winter time (I used to order soups there, waiting for my meetings with KD's ladies)

Tuesday 20th :
Yves ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/yve-e.htm[/url] ), scheduled as among the "morning team" would come only at 01:PM ,so no meetings until 08:00 PM with Jennifer.
Very cute and nice lady, very tender meeting : 90 minutes were so short but as I had appointments with friends at 10:00 PM , no extents were possible.


Wednesday 21st :
Morning : nice meeting with Yves.

Late at night, Jennifer was among the "night team" but fully booked so I met Cat again : very funny, talkative, nice meeting, nice massage (Cat seemed get excited when she was on top)

Hello guys,

Sorry for my ingnorance once again, but can someone please tell me what these abbreviations stand for GV, FS, ZK FN und AV ??

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Ezye101]Hello guys,

Sorry for my ingnorance once again, but can someone please tell me what these abbreviations stand for GV, FS, ZK FN und AV ??

Cheers.[/QUOTE]GV = Geschlechtsverkehr (intercourse)
FS = ? (probably stands for Full Service, could also mean Face Sitting)
ZK = Zungenküsse (french kisses)
FN = Französisch natur, also ohne Gummi (oral sex without condom)
AV = Analverkehr (anal intercourse)

Hi Guys

Now back in Berlin after an absence of nearly 9 months and had a chance to visit some of my favourite haunts.

Liberty

Always a good time here; unlike normal, I did not phone in advance and make an appt so had the parade. Chose a girl called Marlene ([url]http://www.Libertyberlin. De/marlene.html[/url]). Had seen her once before. She had something about her when she waltzed in the room and smiled that, as they say, had me at Hello.

She'e Polish, Blonde (dyed), big breasted (false) and brassy. Just what I was after.

Went for 40mins, kissing and come on her face. About 120 Euros.

She was really enthusiastic, really dirty (great tongue) and overall a top service

Allowed me play about and when the time came really encouraged me and then took a full load on her face without backing away. Great.

Added to my list of repeats. Glad to see that Liberty has not lost their charm but I hear their other place (Salon Prestige) is having a hard time.

Hi guys,

I need a little help. I am planning a bachelor party in Berlin, and I need some sugesstions. I rented one apartment were we will stay, and I was planning to hire 5 girls to apartment for some orgy, or something similar. I ve never been in Berlin so I don't know if something like this is wise, safe or even possible. Do you have some suggestions, links, contacts, to realised that event, or you think it is better of safer to go in some clubs. Any information would be very helpfull.

Best men

[QUOTE=Ezye101]Hello guys,

Sorry for my ingnorance once again, but can someone please tell me what these abbreviations stand for GV, FS, ZK FN und AV ??

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I'll do my best but will just give the English meanings as I do not feel like doing all the work involved in finding the correct spellings in German of the words.

GV=Full service sex more commonly known as fucking
FS=I am not sure, Are you sure it was not FT? That is bbbj w/cim (oral, no condom ejaculating in the mouth)
ZK=Tongue Kisses (french kissing)
FN is probably bbbj w/o cim (just oral without condom but no ejaculation in the mouth)
AV= anal sex

AM (Angus Magee)

[QUOTE=Talac]Hi guys,

I need a little help. I am planning a bachelor party in Berlin, and I need some sugesstions. I rented one apartment were we will stay, and I was planning to hire 5 girls to apartment for some orgy, or something similar. I ve never been in Berlin so I don't know if something like this is wise, safe or even possible. Do you have some suggestions, links, contacts, to realised that event, or you think it is better of safer to go in some clubs. Any information would be very helpfull.

Best men[/QUOTE]

Hi,

First of all I think it very possible & safe. Wise? You will have to decide but then when is mongering ever really wise.

I had to wonder what kind of budget you have in mind. And did you envision the girls coming for a set fee, all included? or that the guys attending the party pay as they go. If the former it is easy but expensive, at least by my standards. The latter would be less expensive to the person hosting the party (you?) but might be harder to arrange. Especially in advance with little to no German knowledge. You could of corse use a more expensive & reliable agency (Kamilla Dee's escort for example) but that would get quite expensive for multiple girls & a few hours. Like 3-5 thousand Euros (200€ per girl per hour,3-5 hrs estimate). Like I say, you could of course do it cheaper with a lesser agency but then the reliability factor goes down. The Berlin escort scene is not the most reliable I have known.

There are other questions in my mind like-do you really want an orgy? or is it more having the girls available to go to more private rooms. The orgy scenario would be again more expensive. Are you looking for really quality girls? or are you happy with the more...er...skanky variety.

If you answer some of these questions I can perhaps point you towards suitable agencies. But you will have to do the negotiation yourself. I am not (yet) offering Angus Magee Pimp services;)

Personally I would suggest Artemis as a good club and venue for this. You could even, for a price, rent out their VIP party room (not sure of the cost) and stock it with girls from the club. I do not know exactly how this works but a call to Artemis would clear that up. The front desk girls generally speak good English.

Regards

AM

[QUOTE=Tompnis]Glad to see that Liberty has not lost their charm but I hear their other place (Salon Prestige) is having a hard time.[/QUOTE]


Hi, Tompnis,

Thanks for yet another good Liberty report. I wonder what you ave heard with regard to Salon Prestige? I know that the had some legal trouble a while back but they won the case. Something about the bordello being a disturbance in the neighborhood. I heard that the judge (a female judge actually) went out and had a look to decide that the bordello was quiet & did not interfere with the residents. It was a good thing as this was also seen as a test case that could have effected all apartment bordellos had it gone the other way.

Personally I have always found SP not as good as Liberty. The place has a sort of dingy feel to it and my sessions, admittedly not a huge sample, have been adequate at best. I can never quite figure out why as it is the same folks running the place. The prices are exactly the same but SP has a low rent feel to it while Liberty has a classy feel.

Angus

I agree with Angus on this one. If you do a private party, I think its going to cost around 3000 Euro.

I would suggest that you run with a visit to Artemis. This frees up options for all those concerned - you can get them to pay the 80 Euro entrance and chip in for the Groom (and for Mein Host, Uncle Angus if you can talk him into it).
If guys on the team just want to do Wellness, eat, gym and a massage they can do it.
You can then opt to sign out and come back if you want to go somewhere else.
The public transport Summer sex tour of Berlin with Angus based on his blog would also be a classic in my book.
Not sure AM is offering that?

There are plenty of other things to do in Berlin.

Originally Posted by Talac
Hi guys,

I need a little help. I am planning a bachelor party in Berlin, and I need some sugesstions. I rented one apartment were we will stay, and I was planning to hire 5 girls to apartment for some orgy, or something similar. I ve never been in Berlin so I don't know if something like this is wise, safe or even possible. Do you have some suggestions, links, contacts, to realised that event, or you think it is better of safer to go in some clubs. Any information would be very helpfull.

Best men


[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,

First of all I think it very possible & safe. Wise? You will have to decide but then when is mongering ever really wise.

I had to wonder what kind of budget you have in mind. And did you envision the girls coming for a set fee, all included? or that the guys attending the party pay as they go. If the former it is easy but expensive, at least by my standards. The latter would be less expensive to the person hosting the party (you?) but might be harder to arrange. Especially in advance with little to no German knowledge. You could of corse use a more expensive & reliable agency (Kamilla Dee's escort for example) but that would get quite expensive for multiple girls & a few hours. Like 3-5 thousand Euros (200€ per girl per hour,3-5 hrs estimate). Like I say, you could of course do it cheaper with a lesser agency but then the reliability factor goes down. The Berlin escort scene is not the most reliable I have known.

There are other questions in my mind like-do you really want an orgy? or is it more having the girls available to go to more private rooms. The orgy scenario would be again more expensive. Are you looking for really quality girls? or are you happy with the more...er...skanky variety.

If you answer some of these questions I can perhaps point you towards suitable agencies. But you will have to do the negotiation yourself. I am not (yet) offering Angus Magee Pimp services;)

Personally I would suggest Artemis as a good club and venue for this. You could even, for a price, rent out their VIP party room (not sure of the cost) and stock it with girls from the club. I do not know exactly how this works but a call to Artemis would clear that up. The front desk girls generally speak good English.

Regards

AM[/QUOTE]

Hello,

I will spend a few days in Berlin. I am looking for a girl for erotic photoshooting in my hotel room. The style is very open with simulated sex positions but no real sex needed. But I cannot speak German. Could anyone suggest a model or a website to find such girls? Any idea on price level?

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Bearsk](and for Mein Host, Uncle Angus if you can talk him into it).[/QUOTE]

Just try keeping me away if offered ;)


[QUOTE=Bearsk]The public transport Summer sex tour of Berlin with Angus based on his blog would also be a classic in my book.
Not sure AM is offering that?[/QUOTE]

Angus offers anything that is reasonably legal and does not involve he himself being..um... the target of attention. That is my guiding abilities are coming on line and especially useful for the Artemis experience. And you get the full force of my philosophical musings in the down time between sessions. The ladies can't resist;)



[QUOTE=Bearsk]There are plenty of other things to do in Berlin.[/QUOTE]

There are? Oh, oh yeah. I guess there are...

AM

Hi Angus,

Totally unverified information but I heard it from a friend (who claims to know the female owner of Liberty) that they were struggliing business wise and that's why she wanted to close SP. Never been there myself but apparently it is nowhere as busy as Liberty. As said may just be a rumour.

T

[QUOTE=Iamsterdam]Hello,

I will spend a few days in Berlin. I am looking for a girl for erotic photoshooting in my hotel room. The style is very open with simulated sex positions but no real sex needed. But I cannot speak German. Could anyone suggest a model or a website to find such girls? Any idea on price level?

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if you are wanting the photos for just your own use ? or do you plan to use them commercially? I know that many of the less high end escort agencies would probably have girls who do not mind photos for a price. But you would probably have to pay the regular hourly rate plus a photo fee as an extra. With this arrangement I doubt anyone would worry about the legal issue of model release forms. But it might be hard to arrange without speaking any German and I do not know what you have in mind as a budget?

I also know of a porn star (Valentina ex Kamilla Dee) who is now working as an indy escort in Berlin. She is, as I say, a bonafide porn actress who has her own website under the name Sarah Rose.

[url]http://sarah-rose.com/sr/[/url]

As I say she works, as far as I know, out of a penthouse suite now here in Berlin. She is also a very smart & astute business woman who knows her stuff and the porn industry. So she would probably be a good person to at least talk to. She speaks very good English and as an escort/P4P companion is one of the best, IMHO. You will find her info here. I doubt she is cheap.

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-SarahRose-25054.html[/url]

AM

Quick question. I am going to be in Berlin for two nights and am considering flying to Frankfurt to go to FKK Oase. It it worth taking a one night trip to Frankfurt to visit Oase or would my time be better spent just spending a third night in Berlin. I

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First time in Berlin

Coming over the weekend to Berlin with my friends.

Were to get good service earliest in the morning? We arriving Saturday morning 7.30 and dont want to loose time.

One of us is very interested about thais, anyone tried [url]http://www.thaimodelle.de/home.html[/url] or have other suggestions?

My reports from Artemis and some other places will follow.

[QUOTE=Neworlean]Quick question. I am going to be in Berlin for two nights and am considering flying to Frankfurt to go to FKK Oase. It it worth taking a one night trip to Frankfurt to visit Oase or would my time be better spent just spending a third night in Berlin. I

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First time in Berlin[/QUOTE]

I would have to agree with what has been said over in the Oase thread on the same question you ask there. But I also add that you do not really say enough about your situation so it is also a bit difficult to say.

Oase & Artemis are both large clubs and have a similar line up of girls in both number and quality. But there the comparison ends and it depends just what you are looking for and what is important to you.

If you are just here for a short visit and the main interest is girls, then I would not bother with a day trip to Oase. If you are more interested in the relaxation facilities (a big outdoor facility at Oase) and the girls are a bonus, then you might want to visit Oase. Artemis is very much a night time indoor club. Then there is the weather to consider.

As I say-not enough info from you really.

AM

[QUOTE=Neworlean]Quick question. I am going to be in Berlin for two nights and am considering flying to Frankfurt to go to FKK Oase. It it worth taking a one night trip to Frankfurt to visit Oase or would my time be better spent just spending a third night in Berlin. I

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First time in Berlin[/QUOTE]
Neworlean,

Berlin is a big city with lots to see including FKK Artemis, Van Kampen, La Folie and Kamilla Dee. With just 3 days - it is best to spend them in Berlin rather than break the trip up with a side trip to FFM. You would be spending a fair bit of time in transit and travelling. Not worth going to FFM just to go to Oase when Artemis will provide all that you would want and more.

Save FFM for another time and visit Palace and World, Mainhattan and Sharks and Das 5 Element. Many other options and much better in some peoples' opinion than Oase.

Angus Magee. I appreciate your information. Actually I am looking for some models who can provide a cheap service. I am only shooting for my personal use and I am nowhere near a professional photographer. But I am sure your leads will be useful for other people.

Just my experience. In Frankfurt RLD, a girl quoted 150 euro for photo showing her face and 15 euro if her face is covered, on top of the 25 euro for regular service. I opted for the later choice.

I am going to go ahead and spend 3 nights in Berlin. I realy appreciate the advice.

[QUOTE=Neworlean]Quick question. I am going to be in Berlin for two nights and am considering flying to Frankfurt to go to FKK Oase. It it worth taking a one night trip to Frankfurt to visit Oase or would my time be better spent just spending a third night in Berlin. I

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First time in Berlin[/QUOTE]A dissenting voice here!

I disagree with the other two responders, even though I know them to both be master mongers.

If your budget will allow it, and unless an opportunity to visit the West is likely to be forthcoming in the near future, my advice would be to take the trip to Frankfurt and visit Oase. Some guys like to spend several days at the same joint - I like to hop from place to place spending sometimes as little as a few hours at each. I have done whistle-stop tours in Hessen and NRW on more than one occasion when I have visited 3 FKK's in a single day. I just did 4 days at Artemis this week and by the end of my stay I would have killed for a bit of variety.

You have to know yourself of course, but if it was me then I would unquestionably be looking to split my trip between the two destinations.

Nice choice to have. Either way, enjoy!

Charlie

Popped in on Tuesday. Choice of 6 girls. Shortlisted down to two, Sibil (on website) and Sandra (not). I chose Sandra. Poor choice. She is a tall brunette with a slim figure and large tits. Pretty face, pleasant girl, striking figure. Problem was, she offers a minimalist service. No facial, no anal (not my cuppa tea anyway), no FT, and above all COVERED BJ! This is really not the Monrouge way. I have been with lots of their girls and they usually offer a comprehensive service. She gave me the opportunity to back down once she'd explained the limitations but I didn't fancy calling in another girl who'd know that she'd been second choice. So I went ahead with it. 'Halbe stunde' with CoB finish cost me 100 thoroughly wasted euros. She is an ex-Bel Ami girl and is no doubt used to easy money. Thoroughly pleasant girl with a cracking body, no doubt about that, and an ideal girlfriend I'm sure, but as an SP she's just not worth the time or money. Avoid.

Charlie

In my efforts to make up for lost time when working away from Berlin I really felt I needed to visit Mon Rouge as I had so much about it but never been there. First surprise was arriving there; really got to say does not look like a traditional bordello. Large house, plates outside with the name and a big staircase. Went inside and was shown into a room on the same floor as the entrance; large room, huge bed in the centre.

Had the usual parade and immediately chose Maya who really stood out

[url]http://www.Monrouge. De/maya_neu.html[/url]

She really looks as good in real life. I asked her to put on some stockings and high heels and she kindly obliged. Went for my usual in such places- OWO, kissing and then some hopefully pleasant sex. Maya was friendly, enthusiastic and the experience was fun. In truth slightly mechanical as it kind of felt as if she was going through the motions but none the less pleasant for that.

All in all a very pleasant punt. Also has the added benefit of staying open until 2am which is a real real plus for me. Also apparently do an escort service (not cheap). Defintiely added a new place to my "usuals" of Liberty and KLD.

Anyone seen Valencia? Looks kind of interesting on the website.

[QUOTE=Tompnis]In my efforts to make up for lost time when working away from Berlin I really felt I needed to visit Mon Rouge as I had so much about it but never been there. First surprise was arriving there; really got to say does not look like a traditional bordello. Large house, plates outside with the name and a big staircase. Went inside and was shown into a room on the same floor as the entrance; large room, huge bed in the centre.

Had the usual parade and immediately chose Maya who really stood out

[url]http://www.Monrouge. De/maya_neu.html[/url]

She really looks as good in real life. I asked her to put on some stockings and high heels and she kindly obliged. Went for my usual in such places- OWO, kissing and then some hopefully pleasant sex. Maya was friendly, enthusiastic and the experience was fun. In truth slightly mechanical as it kind of felt as if she was going through the motions but none the less pleasant for that.

All in all a very pleasant punt. Also has the added benefit of staying open until 2am which is a real real plus for me. Also apparently do an escort service (not cheap). Defintiely added a new place to my "usuals" of Liberty and KLD.

Anyone seen Valencia? Looks kind of interesting on the website.[/QUOTE]When did this encounter take place? Maya has been away for several weeks. I had a couple of sessions with her last month and found her to be sensational.

I was at MR last week. Valencia was in the line-up but I chose someone else (see report below). She didn't strike me as especially pretty in person. MR is a really good place - try Jasmin next time, terrific BBBJ and a friendly girl.

Charlie

Thinking of giving La Folie a try-out next week. Pricing is interesting as compared to Artemis. Entry is cheap, champagne (my tipple of preference) is less extortionate than at Artemis, but sex is more expensive apparently. 75E base price, BBBJ extra!

Anybody got any recent experience/intel?

Thx

Charlie

Hi Charlie

Saw Maya about a couple of months ago; have been way behind in writing reports on here and am working through more memorable punts. Hope she is just away on hols as she was fun.

I have made a resolution to be more of a contributor rather than a lurker. Thanks for the advice. Will try her out next time.

Incidentally does anyone have any good recent visiting escort advice; sometimes you really can't be arsed to go out (especially as I don't have a car) and it would be great to have someone to visit. Berlin is great for punting but the visiting escort scene from my experience of being here before was woeful. Had some good experiences from girls from KLD (Fiona sticks in the memory) but it is quite pricey (about 200 euros). Other experiences have been dire with the girl being either nothing like on the website or as miserable as sin.

Any advice gratefully accepted.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Thinking of giving La Folie a try-out next week. Pricing is interesting as compared to Artemis. Entry is cheap, champagne (my tipple of preference) is less extortionate than at Artemis, but sex is more expensive apparently. 75E base price, BBBJ extra!

Anybody got any recent experience/intel?

Thx

Charlie[/QUOTE]

Hi,

No recent experience here but I do follow on Verkehrsberichte.de (a local forum) the La Folie thread. Going by this it seems that the main nationality at LF is Bulgarian with a few Romanians. That and slightly older ('30s) German women. The younger Bulgarians have the reputation for pestering the guests for lady drinks (€21 piccolos of sec) and sitting bored on the couch. The older German ladies seem a better bet but for me hold not so much interest. I think that you can meet a nice lady there but it is by no means guaranteed. On the plus side, it only costs you €14 to fund out who is there. One can always bail and head over the Artemis. The last few times I was there (I think it may be two or more years back) I left both times without a session. The only girl I was remotely interested in was the stripper who did not go to the room with guests. She was a very teenage looking Russian girl who dressed in school girl chic style and sat on a stool oposite me at the bar sucking a lollypop with lipstick smeared lips, and studiously ignored my leers. Old Angus was prepared to empty his wallet for a crack at her but she was not having it.

AM

[QUOTE=Tompnis]

Incidentally does anyone have any good recent visiting escort advice; sometimes you really can't be arsed to go out (especially as I don't have a car) and it would be great to have someone to visit. Berlin is great for punting but the visiting escort scene from my experience of being here before was woeful. Had some good experiences from girls from KLD (Fiona sticks in the memory) but it is quite pricey (about 200 euros). Other experiences have been dire with the girl being either nothing like on the website or as miserable as sin.

Any advice gratefully accepted.[/QUOTE]


Hi Tompnis,

If you look back in the Berlin thread there are some pretty decent recommendations regarding escorts. But you will also find my own views on the escort trade in Berlin which is basically that it is not a great option when compared to the brothel/Artemis options.

But reading your post gives me the idea to update & rework all that I currently know about the Berlin escort scene. I will try to do this over the next couple of days and make a post on < [url]www.angusmagee.com[/url] > as well as a link to it here.

Regards

AM

During a two day stay in Berlin I had the chance to visit Berlins both flatrate brothels King George and Caligula.

King George has the atmosphere where I felt welcome right from the start. The man at the door showed me around in the brothel and after that he took me back to the front door where he collected the flat rate price of 100EUR. I went back in, ordered a drink and it did not take long before a girl came over to me. We had a short talk and decided to go to a room. Then she asked if I would like to take another girl with us to the room. That was not a difficult decision and I went with two hot Romanian girls for a first session. Had a nice session with the two girls and got back to the bar. It did not take long before before my eyes fell on another girl and we went for a new session. Some hours later I had a second session with the same girls but before that I had one more session with another girl and also one more session with two girls. One of those two girls I had again later in the evening. I had a great time with many great girls. The girls were all very friendly and good looking (the pictures of the line up on their web-site is just awful compared with the real line-up) and there was absolutely no problem to get the girl that I was interested in and often the girl even come over to introduce themselves without that I had to try to get their attention. Two regrets I however had, first of all my favorite girl (from my last trip), Claudia was on vacation and then the flatrate price was not so flatrate after all. The girls are friendly but do keep on asking some some more money every now and then and the total damage for the evening was a bit over 200EUR, but still well worth it. All drinks are also free and the bar service is exceptional good. The rate between men and women was also excellent, with maybe about ten girls who did most of the evening outnumber the amount of men.

The next day I went to Caligula hoping that I would have an equally good experience there as I did in King George. The man at the door of Caligula explained the rules (same as in King George) and took the flatrate entrance 100EUR before I had seen the club. When I got in I knew right away that I had made a mistake. There were only two girls in the room and about 20 men. 3 or 4 girl more were with some other men in the rooms, but the rate between men and women were very bad. Here no girls came over to me and it was impossible to get any kind of eye contact with the girls or to call them over. For the first two hours I just sat there, had a few drinks and tried to figure out how the system worked. Here men went over to the dance floor and tried to get a girl off the dance floor to a room often with no success. I watched how an Asian guy asked a girl to go to a room and the girl answered loudly just "no". One of the managers passed by then and started a loudly argument with the girl (in Romanian I think). The girl then a dragged the Asian guy to a room. About 3 minutes later she was done and came back. The Asian guy followed a few minutes later and walked straight out of the club. I thought about doing the same but I had heard that some more girls would arrive soon (at 8pm) so I decided to wait. Indeed some more girls came, all at the same time and I knew that this was the first good chance to actually get a girl. I outran a few other men and got first to a Bulgarian girl while she was just about to get on the dance floor. I managed to get her to a room. Once in the room I realized that that the flatrate was not really a flatrate while I would probably get no good service at all unless I would pay some more. She asked for 20EUR more but for that I got a BBBJ as extra. It was a normal session, but there was nothing special good about it. We got back into the bar and now it looked like it could be possible to find another girl while there was a total of about 10-15 girls working and maybe 30 men. Not a good rate but it could be worse. I was thinking about who could be my second girl, when the first girl came back and took me with her to a room. The reason was that she just wanted to sleep for 20 minutes. The 20 minutes with a beautiful girl in my arms passed quickly and back in the bar I noticed that the amount of men was increasing and the girls got more tired. I picked a second girl who made it quite clear that she had no interest in going to any room but she did it anyway. The 20EUR extra for a BBBJ did not sound to be negotiable, so I payed again. She rushed through the session and back in the bar I noticed that the rate of men per women was now very bad. I tried to get a few girls with no luck but finally a sweet Romanian girl said yes. The 20EUR extra for BBBJ happened again and the session was ok but a bit too rushed. Now I think there were more than 50 men in the bar and it was about 10pm. The girls were all overworked and very uninterested in having any more sex. Normally there was about 3 girls available in the bar with 50 men trying to get them, just awful. I noticed that not many managed to find a new girl. The girls turned down most men and then in the end they went to some man that they knew from before, somebody that they knew that would be nice and who would agree to pay more. The last girl that I had, came back to me around midnight and asked if I would like to go to a room. I was not really so interested in doing a session with her again but knowing my poor chances of finding a new girl I decided to go with her. Again 20EUR extra and a very similar session as the last one. Got back to the bar where about 50 men were waiting and the girls so busy that there were moments when not a single girl could be seen in the bar or on the dance floor. I had a few drinks and talked to some guys while there was really nothing else to do. Around 2am the same girl came back to me to take me to a room for a third time. That was not what I was waiting for but sitting in a flatrate brothel where finding a girl seems to be impossible had made me horny, so I went with her. This time she absolutely demanded that I would stay for an hour (she was too tired to get back to the bar full of men) but that would cost me 50EUR more. Knowing that this would for sure be the last chance to have sex that night I agreed and payed, then she asked for 20EUR more for the BBBJ and then for 10EUR more for who knows what...(so much for flatrate). We had some good sex and this time more relaxed. She told me that she would be there until 5am and she confirmed when I asked that there would still be just as many men in the club at 5am when they would be closing. At 3am I left Caligula being 100% sure that I will never return.

Some facts:

King George:
-About 8-10 friendly girls
-About 5-10 men
-Excellent service at the bar
-Good and clean rooms with showers than all girl and also I used after every session
-Possible to get 2 girls at the same time
-The girls are better looking that on their web-site
-Mostly Romanian girls and at least one Hungarian and one Austrian
-Expect girl to ask if you can give them an extra 10EUR

Caligula:
-About 10-15 overworked girls
-About 50 men or more
-You do get your drinks in the bar, sometimes it just take a few minutes
-The most filthy and dirty rooms I have ever seen (no shower, not even a chair to put your clothes on so just throw them on the floor that is covered with so much dirt that it is hard to see what color the floor has)
-Between 8pm and 9pm you might get a new girl with you to a room but between 6pm-8pm and after 10pm you should be very lucky to find a free and willing girl.
-The girls are better looking that on their web-site
-Mostly Romanian girls and at least one Bulgarian
-Expect to pay at least 20EUR (even though the list price here is 10EUR for BBBJ) extra for a BBBJ if you want to get any kind of service in this club. After 1am the girl mostly do only 1 hour session (for 50EUR extra) with men that they already know

[QUOTE=Hardbone]During a two day stay in Berlin I had the chance to visit Berlins both flatrate brothels King George and Caligula.
[/QUOTE]

Excellent, excellent post Hardbone! What can I say. This could be the report of the year so far on the Berlin thread. To have the clubs so closely compared, back to back, is gold, pure gold. It goes without saying that this report is posted in the RofD thread.

Many thanks HB and two thumbs up.

AM

I have the new escort post up now on the blog.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=219[/url]

As I try to keep blog posts to under 2000 words I have had to divide it up unto Low End, Mid & High End and Indy. Today I posted low end. I hope to have the rest posted by the end of the week. But my computer needs a little professional attention. I will be taking it into the service store today or tomorrow. My on line presence then depends upon my being able to borrow one for the week.

AM

I am considering paying a visit to Sandra: [url]www.klassemodell.de[/url].

Has anyone got any experience with this lady?

Sam

I have to admit that I had a moment yesterday thinking about HB's report when I thought maybe it was a report made by the management at KG trashing Caligula and talking up the KG. But then I had a look at HBs post history which is short but contains info on some other topics. I also walked by the KG yesterday evening and as is often the case n a warm evening there were a couple of girls and the owner hanging around on the street. A short chat revealed that they are indeed very friendly and relaxed, seemingly very eager for business.

In short I decided that HB's report is very genuine and accurately shows the vast difference between the two places. Sorry HB, I do not mean any disrespect with my suspicious mind. It was just that the two establishments by your report seem like night day and one has to wonder these days on the internet.

I may well make a personal visit one of these warm evenings and see for myself. Your visit, even with the extra payments you made, seems to be well worth the money.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I have to admit that I had a moment yesterday thinking about HB's report when I thought maybe it was a report made by the management at KG trashing Caligula and talking up the KG. But then I had a look at HBs post history which is short but contains info on some other topics. I also walked by the KG yesterday evening and as is often the case n a warm evening there were a couple of girls and the owner hanging around on the street. A short chat revealed that they are indeed very friendly and relaxed, seemingly very eager for business.

In short I decided that HB's report is very genuine and accurately shows the vast difference between the two places. Sorry HB, I do not mean any disrespect with my suspicious mind. It was just that the two establishments by your report seem like night day and one has to wonder these days on the internet.

I may well make a personal visit one of these warm evenings and see for myself. Your visit, even with the extra payments you made, seems to be well worth the money.

AM[/QUOTE]Yes is it a genuine report. My history here is short while I mostly hang around at some other sites, especially "ignatzmice" (under the user name "makelove" with lots of reports) where I remember that you AM made a short appearance some month ago. My intention was not to trash Caligulas reputation but I reported what I felt. I visited KG on a Friday (which should normally be busy) and I visited Caligula on a Saturday (which is probably the most busy day). I would love to read a report from somebody else from Caligula, while the only real big problem was the very bad rate between men and women. Maybe it would be a lot better if visited on for example a Monday evening.

Hi,

[url]http://www.escort-sex24.de/natalie[/url]

Just finished 5 minutes ago with this very shapely blonde.

She arrived punctually, derives from Poland/Ukraine, is probably mid 20's plus, not quite as pretty as her pics would suggest but sexy enough. Speaks Deutsch, Russian, Polish but no real English. She seemed nervous at first (understandably) but opened up.

Nice service, DFK, good BBBJ, cowgirl followed by more BJ. Nice tight pussy. Put her on her back and after less than 5 minutes of my thrusting whilst she slapped her pelvis upwards I came inside her. Didn't get to test whether any of the other advertised services such as GB were genuinely available and included in the basic price, but I suspect they were. Sex lasted about 20 minutes in total whereupon she gave me a 10 minute massage and left. I had no interest in struggling to do it again with her during the remaining time so I don't know whether a 2nd round would've been on the agenda had I desired it.

A very nice punt all round. Everything exactly as advertised. Nice enough girl, sexy body, sweet face, good attitude, excellent delivery.

I think that this is very probably an honest and reliable agency. I will probably give their other available girl (Paris) a spin later in the week just to be sure!

Recommended

Charlie

Hello, Angus

Top info! I really look forward to your info on the mid-price level. I have to say I do feel uncomfortable at the low price end for the potential exploitation issue. Had a couple of really bad experiences at the 80-100 euro level and vowed never again (the glorious exception to this was the Hautnah girls).

Just doing the maths, as you indicate, reveals that the girls probably get to keep very little of the money and work pretty long hours etc etc. Anyway, not for me.

[QUOTE=Tompnis]Hello, Angus

Top info! I really look forward to your info on the mid-price level. I have to say I do feel uncomfortable at the low price end for the potential exploitation issue. Had a couple of really bad experiences at the 80-100 euro level and vowed never again (the glorious exception to this was the Hautnah girls).

Just doing the maths, as you indicate, reveals that the girls probably get to keep very little of the money and work pretty long hours etc etc. Anyway, not for me.[/QUOTE]


Glad you find it useful. I am currently working on the second part but it is not easy with all my bookmarks stored on my computer which is in for repair. I definitely have to look at setting up on line book mark storage for such an occasion.

But I will do the best I can from memory & searching and have it posted in the near future.

AM

Excellent field work Charlie. From the pictures, Paris would more to my taste, so do report.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Hi,

[url]http://www.escort-sex24.de/natalie[/url]

A very nice punt all round. Everything exactly as advertised. Nice enough girl, sexy body, sweet face, good attitude, excellent delivery.

I think that this is very probably an honest and reliable agency. I will probably give their other available girl (Paris) a spin later in the week just to be sure!

Recommended

Charlie[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tompnis]Hello, Angus

Top info! I really look forward to your info on the mid-price level. I have to say I do feel uncomfortable at the low price end for the potential exploitation issue. Had a couple of really bad experiences at the 80-100 euro level and vowed never again (the glorious exception to this was the Hautnah girls).

Just doing the maths, as you indicate, reveals that the girls probably get to keep very little of the money and work pretty long hours etc etc. Anyway, not for me.[/QUOTE]I sympathise with the sentiment behind your comments, but I'm not sure that a blanket embargo is warranted.

I think that these things vary from agency to agency, and retail price is not always the best determinant of a girl's independence and complicity. I think one gets a better feel of which girls are being exploited and which are not from reading reviews and judging the demeanour of the girls themselves. (Of course one could argue that 'trying them out to assess their demeanour' involves already participating in their suffrage, and that by the time one decides to desist it is already too late)

I am relatively confident that the 'klein und zierlich girls' are generally-speaking free agents, and I suspect the same applies to the firm I reported on yesterday. I'm sure that there are indeed plenty who are being exploited in the manner you refer to, and I'm sure Artemis and similar FKK's have their share too, but the only way to have a totally clear conscience is to avoid P4P altogether.

Charlie

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/sibil.html[/url]

Sybil is probably the 9th or 10th girl that I've sampled from this excellent bordello, and one of the best. Especially gratifying to finds standards being maintained after last week's disappointing encounter (reported previously on this forum)

Chose from a line-up of 4. Super physique, slim, huge tits (enhanced), soft skin, angular facial features. Says she's 27 - looks older (but I have no reason to disbelieve her). Classic MILF appearance. Nice girl too. Speaks no English.

Offers most services, but won't do CiM although GB was included in the price (unusually). Half-hour was 70E + 30E for BJ ohne + 10 kissing = 110E.

Her BJ was really terrific, slow and sexy with just the right level of hand pressure and lots of ball-licking and lovely eye-contact. The fact that facially she is a dead ringer for my best friend's somewhat prissy wife did not in any way detract from the experience!! A really nice performance for about 20 minutes, with a happy ending right in her face.

A definite repeat for me, and highly recommended for MILF lovers

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]I sympathise with the sentiment behind your comments, but I'm not sure that a blanket embargo is warranted.

I think that these things vary from agency to agency, and retail price is not always the best determinant of a girl's independence and complicity. I think one gets a better feel of which girls are being exploited and which are not from reading reviews and judging the demeanour of the girls themselves. (Of course one could argue that 'trying them out to assess their demeanour' involves already participating in their suffrage, and that by the time one decides to desist it is already too late)

I am relatively confident that the 'klein und zierlich girls' are generally-speaking free agents, and I suspect the same applies to the firm I reported on yesterday. I'm sure that there are indeed plenty who are being exploited in the manner you refer to, and I'm sure Artemis and similar FKK's have their share too, but the only way to have a totally clear conscience is to avoid P4P altogether.

Charlie[/QUOTE]

I have to agree here with Charlie and I hope that my comments in my blog post did not indicate that all escorts at this level are being exploited as sex slaves, for I do not believe this to be the case. It is merely to be pointed out that at this price the girl is not making huge amounts of money for little work. She must do multiple sessions per night and this must be realized if you are to have a good time. As I say on the blog, book your session early, not drunkenly at 03:00 a.m..

Bottom line is the feeling you get from the girl. As those who experienced a session with the defunct Hautnah agency girls know, the girls always arrived relatively fresh & happy on time. Thus agency was doing something right. And as Charlie points out the KZ agency seems to have taken up the Hautnah gauntlet nicely.

AM

Just published the Berlin Escort Guide, mid to highend on Angus' blog.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=237[/url]

Next up, a short view of the indy scene.

AM

Arrived with my 3 friend 8 am. Called [url]www.Thaimodelle.de[/url] but they said that only 2 ladies present and they are not young.

Took a taxi to Tiffany, were there exactly at 10 am, the place was nice, they had 3 girls present, we had them all and beautyful brunette, Katja twice, guys were very happy with her, other friend took small blond Pia, was happy, I had tall Polish blond (Janina?), and was delighted, I could swear she had an orgasm out of my licking or then she is a great actor.

3 pm I went to Liberty, had a brunette whos name I forgot, nothing special, the line up was disappointment, maybe 3 girls all in all.

In the evening we went to Galicula, this is a place to avoid (like told here before). Had 2 girls, ok looking, but had to qeue a long time, ratio maybe 10/1. Free booze did not compensate lot.

Will continue soon in Artemis thread and come back here for day 3.

As always top info Angus.

I have used the KLD escort service several times (seen about four girls). Ones I remember are Fiona and Cora. To my shame I cannot remember the other girls' names. All very professionally handled. Girls arrived on time, great service etc. To be fair exactly what you exprect from KLD. Also ther booking service was very smooth. I speak limited German but the ladies on the phone all spoke wonderful English. They also ask you what sort of girl you want, what sort of service you are looking for etc and try to match this up (worked in my experience). One point is that I found you need to give a bit more notice than one of the escort only agencies; on the odd occasion I have phoned up on the off-chance to KLD I have found no one was available.

Re Mon Rouge, I haven't tried them but when Maya is back may give this a go as she is a great punt. Professional, kind of hardened in the business but gives a great service.

Hi,

Long time reader, first time poster/reviewer. For the last few months I've been going to see Alicia from Lady M in Charlottenburg. Previously she was in Mitte but has now moved. She is in her early 20s, dark hair, Polish with a sexy body. She offers most services and one time we even showered together before the session - well recommended!

Would love to keep her to myself :-)

[url]http://www.ladym-eroticevent.com/de/damen/alicia.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Joy Rider2008]Hi,

Long time reader, first time poster/reviewer. For the last few months I've been going to see Alicia from Lady M in Charlottenburg. Previously she was in Mitte but has now moved. She is in her early 20s, dark hair, Polish with a sexy body. She offers most services and one time we even showered together before the session - well recommended!

Would love to keep her to myself :-)

[url]http://www.ladym-eroticevent.com/de/damen/alicia.htm[/url][/QUOTE]


Thanks for making your first report Joy Rider. And an interesting one too. I have never in all my years in Berlin seen or heard of this bordello.

A couple of questions. Is there a location for this bordello or did you do a home visit. From the website they do seem to indicate that both are available but give no clue as to the in call address.

And what do you pay for the session. The website gives some prices for house visits (pretty expensive I might add) but gives no price for a bordello visit. Yet they do seem to indicate that bordello visits are available.

Thanks for any clarification.

AM

Visited Tiffanys today and saw Anna, cute, English speaking 26. Opted for a 40 minute session for two pops and kussen but ended up with a near fight. It was a total turn off. She didn't deliver as agreed. Wasn't into it at all from the first second.

In this hobby YMMV but I though I should warn the dudes! Will report back on other encounters.

[url]http://www.Ritter11. De/bordell-girls/anna.php[/url]

MP

Are the independant girls the best bet around here, or should one stick with the bordellos?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just published the Berlin Escort Guide, mid to highend on Angus' blog.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=237[/url]

Next up, a short view of the indy scene.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike Ph]Are the independant girls the best bet around here, or should one stick with the bordellos?[/QUOTE]


Sorry you will not get a straight yes or no answer to this question from me, It really does depend on you-and a number of factors which I will cover in the next blog post.

But generally I feel that for a visitor, unless he has a lot of time and an adventurous spirit, the bordellos are a better bet to get your itch scratched. It is simply less complicated.

I came across this one today and thought it pretty useful. It is a large map with pretty much all the Berlin brothels and massage places marked with a heart. Click the heart and a small window opens with details such as address and web link. You can also zoom to get further direction details on the map. I know one like this was put together sometime back on google maps but this one is pretty complete.

[url]http://karte.berlin-platz.de/?amenity=brothel[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just published the Berlin Escort Guide, mid to highend on Angus' blog.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=237[/url]

Next up, a short view of the indy scene.

AM[/QUOTE]Would like to share my one unusual but not uncommon encounter a couple of years ago. Had a session with one of the young ladies at VK. Suggested we meet the next day at my hotel. She demurred as she was supposed to spend the Saturday PM visiting her mother but did agree to call me.

Long and short of it, I managed to persuade to spend three hours at my hotel for 350 eruos. It was not cheap but having someone I already boned at my hotel with all of its advantages seemed worth it. Along with some unrushed intimacy, I learned a little bit moare about her and her colleagues. Seems a number of them are truly part timers.

Thought my fellow mongers might like to know that with a little chemistry and the right offer, you can arrage for a take out from VM without management taking a cut.

Appreciate AM's enlightening posts. He is definitely one of my mentors/heroes on ISG.

A quick sex report (July-August)

[b]day 1[/b]: Artemis

Marina: Nice Russian MILF. Good BBBJ in kino

[b]day 2 [/b]:: Van Kampen. 7 pm

7 girls came to shake my hand

Steffi: a new German cutie (pictures on [url]www.Vankampenberlin.de[/url])

18 yo announced on the site. Yes, very fresh pussy and perfect ass. A little bit shy but gentle and smiling. I take the BBBJ extra (20 €). DATY extra is also possible.

It worth noting the honesty of VK. On the site it is written that the girl is inexperienced and so.

As a veteran monger I immediatly saw that. So, don't ask for too much passion, be patient and focus on the idea that you are fucking a quasi teenager. Yes, Yes. Old pigs you are!

Good meeting

[b]day 3[/b]: Kamila Dee. 5 pm

June, Marie, Vickie, Marion. (Black) and?

Ok with Marie, ah not possible. Wanted a 40 mn session, but for Marie it was the end of the workinf day (only 30 mn possible). Leave the place (Humm. Was Marie really a good choice? Not sure) without take another girl. I ve no read terrific things about Vicky and June.

[b]day 4[/b]:

Ekstase massage. 5 pm

Sophia: [url]www.Ekstasemassage. De/html/sophia.html[/url]

60 mn (90 Euros)

Very cute girl (21 yo). Sympatic. But hard to touch is pussy. I come on my way!

Monrouge:

Pretty girls. Pretty place.

What? Extras are 30 Euros! I leave. I am a little bit tired of Extras!

No extra I want to pay.come back to Artemis!

[b]day 5 [/b]: Artemis 5 pm to 12

Lekkie: Very nice thai girl (see reports on ARTEMIS thread) expert in massage and others stuff.

Ella: small blond Russian. Pretty face. Fake boobs. Age? French kiss and ball licking (I love it!) in the Kino

"Rossy" (not sure of the name): Nice Czech from Brno. I fucked her in the Kino too.

Safina: Young blond german girl with voluptuous shape. My best Artemis meeting this night. Very sympatic. In zimmer.

[b]day 6[/b]:

Royal. 4 pm

8 pretty girls

Samira: [url]www.Bordell-berlin. To/luxusbordell/samira.html[/url]

Nice Greek girl.come back to Extras! 20 Euros for BBBJ and 20 Euros for kissing. The last was not justified. Sympatic but lack of passion.

Thanks, Charlie, for the heads up on [url]http://www.escort-sex24.de[/url]! I was looking for a trustworthy escort agency. So I decided to try Paris.

Booked a few hours in advance. A lady answered the phone and quickly accepted the booking. Nearer the time I got a phone call that the girl arrived early, and if it's ok for her to come up.

A couple of minutes later, I get a knock on the door, and there is the gorgeous Paris. Amazing girl - very tall, with a great figure, in a pretty dress, and rather confident. I was the one who was nervous, as I don't have much experience with escorts.

After a drink and a little chat, she did a little striptease and then we got down to business. DFK, BBBJ were all on offer, and then I asked her to turn around and pounded her doggie style. When I finally came, we both were exhausted (or at least I was, and she gave a very good impression). So just lay there chatting, and cuddling. A true GFE!

I then asked for a massage, which she also did very well. By that time my member was asking for more, so I asked for another BJ (although she offered sex as well). Unfortunately, it usually takes me a rather long time to cum, so in the middle of it her alarm went off. She tried very hard to finish me off, but I decided not to bother anymore, so let her take a shower. By the way, at the very start she warned me that she doesn't do CIM, which was fine by me.

All in all, I had a really good time, it was really like being with girlfriend. In terms of looks, she is even better than in the pictures. The breasts are nice and firm, and the body is nicely tanned. She takes very good care of herself. The only downside is that she has a few patches on the body where the skin lost its pigmentation, so in contrast to the otherwise tanned skin they are visible. She says this was due to stress in high school. However this does not really tarnish her good looks. Moreover, her friendly and open attitude makes her even more attractive.

By the way, I conversed with her mostly in German, which she knows pretty well, but she says she understands English, but finds it more difficult to speak. She also knows some Russian, and understands some Italian. Of course her native tongue is Polish. She says she is 23, and I tend to believe her.

Highly recommended so treat her well, gentlemen!

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Hi,

[url]http://www.escort-sex24.de/natalie[/url]

Just finished 5 minutes ago with this very shapely blonde.

She arrived punctually, derives from Poland/Ukraine, is probably mid 20's plus, not quite as pretty as her pics would suggest but sexy enough. Speaks Deutsch, Russian, Polish but no real English. She seemed nervous at first (understandably) but opened up.

Nice service, DFK, good BBBJ, cowgirl followed by more BJ. Nice tight pussy. Put her on her back and after less than 5 minutes of my thrusting whilst she slapped her pelvis upwards I came inside her. Didn't get to test whether any of the other advertised services such as GB were genuinely available and included in the basic price, but I suspect they were. Sex lasted about 20 minutes in total whereupon she gave me a 10 minute massage and left. I had no interest in struggling to do it again with her during the remaining time so I don't know whether a 2nd round would've been on the agenda had I desired it.

A very nice punt all round. Everything exactly as advertised. Nice enough girl, sexy body, sweet face, good attitude, excellent delivery.

I think that this is very probably an honest and reliable agency. I will probably give their other available girl (Paris) a spin later in the week just to be sure!

Recommended

Charlie[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnThomas0519]Would like to share my one unusual but not uncommon encounter a couple of years ago. Had a session with one of the young ladies at VK. Suggested we meet the next day at my hotel. She demurred as she was supposed to spend the Saturday PM visiting her mother but did agree to call me.

Long and short of it, I managed to persuade to spend three hours at my hotel for 350 eruos. It was not cheap but having someone I already boned at my hotel with all of its advantages seemed worth it. Along with some unrushed intimacy, I learned a little bit moare about her and her colleagues. Seems a number of them are truly part timers.

Thought my fellow mongers might like to know that with a little chemistry and the right offer, you can arrage for a take out from VM without management taking a cut..[/QUOTE]


Thanks JT for the report. And I do agree that the scenario you describe is well with in the realm of possibility of you are polite, generous and discreet. Especially the last one as the girl does put a bit on the line when doing this. Many bordellos would not appreciate being cut out of the equation and the girl could lose her job if it came out to the bordello that she is cutting deals on the side. So as you have done, I recommend not reporting by name the girls with whom you have made an arrangement such as this. This may seem obvious, but does not hurt to be stated. Also it must be noted that this will be easier if you are in a hotel. Unless you do multiple sessions with a girl, and she comes to trust you, a hotel is much more neutral ground than a private residence. I myself had a very nice long home visit from a KD girl a couple of years back. Preceding this was at least a half dozen bordello visits in which we got to know each other.

[QUOTE=JohnThomas0519]Appreciate AM's enlightening posts. He is definitely one of my mentors/heroes on ISG.[/QUOTE]

Nice to be a hero;) I wonder if I have any super powers?

[QUOTE=Spec20]Thanks, Charlie, for the heads up on [url]http://www.escort-sex24.de[/url]! I was looking for a trustworthy escort agency. So I decided to try Paris.

Booked a few hours in advance. A lady answered the phone and quickly accepted the booking. Nearer the time I got a phone call that the girl arrived early, and if it's ok for her to come up.

A couple of minutes later, I get a knock on the door, and there is the gorgeous Paris. Amazing girl - very tall, with a great figure, in a pretty dress, and rather confident. I was the one who was nervous, as I don't have much experience with escorts.

After a drink and a little chat, she did a little striptease and then we got down to business. DFK, BBBJ were all on offer, and then I asked her to turn around and pounded her doggie style. When I finally came, we both were exhausted (or at least I was, and she gave a very good impression). So just lay there chatting, and cuddling. A true GFE!

I then asked for a massage, which she also did very well. By that time my member was asking for more, so I asked for another BJ (although she offered sex as well). Unfortunately, it usually takes me a rather long time to cum, so in the middle of it her alarm went off. She tried very hard to finish me off, but I decided not to bother anymore, so let her take a shower. By the way, at the very start she warned me that she doesn't do CIM, which was fine by me.

All in all, I had a really good time, it was really like being with girlfriend. In terms of looks, she is even better than in the pictures. The breasts are nice and firm, and the body is nicely tanned. She takes very good care of herself. The only downside is that she has a few patches on the body where the skin lost its pigmentation, so in contrast to the otherwise tanned skin they are visible. She says this was due to stress in high school. However this does not really tarnish her good looks. Moreover, her friendly and open attitude makes her even more attractive.

By the way, I conversed with her mostly in German, which she knows pretty well, but she says she understands English, but finds it more difficult to speak. She also knows some Russian, and understands some Italian. Of course her native tongue is Polish. She says she is 23, and I tend to believe her.

Highly recommended so treat her well, gentlemen![/QUOTE]Hi Spec.

Thanks for the report. I am pleased to see that my good experience with this agency was replicated in your own outing. I was intending to give Paris her 'ISG debut', but you beat me to it! Now that I have your good recommendation to hand, I will definitely give her a spin this week.

Thanks and keep posting.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I came across this one today and thought it pretty useful. It is a large map with pretty much all the Berlin brothels and massage places marked with a heart. Click the heart and a small window opens with details such as address and web link. You can also zoom to get further direction details on the map. I know one like this was put together sometime back on google maps but this one is pretty complete.

[url]http://karte.berlin-platz.de/?amenity=brothel[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]


Thanks! what a good reference.

Do you (or anybody) know if there is a similar map for asian/thai massage parlours?

happy mongering!
foss

I was in a mongering trip with 3 of my friends.

1 of my friends love this place:

[url]http://www.Celine-69. De/gallery.html[/url]

Pestalozzistraße 69

10627 Berlin, Germany

Which was in the backyard of our hotel, so he went there first thing in the morning. Actually he was there everyday, line up is, well, older.

Another friend of mine went back to Artermis just to see Elisa, he fell in love with her.

Me and my other friend took a taksi to Van Kampen, [url]http://www.Vankampenberlin. De/[/url] and was very impressed about the line up. Picked Naomi, 24 year old half african, half ukrainian, 180 cm tall beautyful girl. Can't get her smile out of my face.

Attitude 10

Body 10

Face 10 +

She was not so experienced, could not even put a condom on, but I would say was one of the best experiences ever.

Please, be nice to her (never said this before).

1400 our flight left, so that was it, will get back to Berlin forum next summer, hopefully.

[QUOTE=Foss]Thanks! what a good reference.

Do you (or anybody) know if there is a similar map for asian/thai massage parlours?

happy mongering!
foss[/QUOTE]


Not a map but there is this list on a German website called Farang dot de

[url]http://www.farang.de/thaimassagen.html[/url]

But this list may contain some massage places that are more legit massage. That is not all may offer extra services. As far as I know almost all Thai massage in Berlin will include a happy ending hand job. At least the places that do not are in the minority. But not all places offer such services as bj. I am not really up on how it all works as Thai massage is not my thing really.

But I can say that anytime I have had a Thai massage here in Berlin, and always because I needed the massage, I was offered (an accepted) a finishing hand job at no extra cost. €50 for the hour seems to be standard.

If someone had the juice for it they could always set up a google map with the locations marked. I sure don't

AM

Angusmagee blog was moved (rather the servers where the blog lives) yesterday. During the day for a number of hours I was off line. All was supposed to be fine by evening but there do appear to be a few problems with the new server network. My friend who runs the servers is working on it but over the next days there may well be more times when the blog goes off line. If you can not connect, just try back later.

Thanks for you patience.

Angus

(this is killing my stats for August...)

Things seem to have stabilized the past 12 hours on the servers so I have published today the third and final installment in the Berlin escort series, the indy scene.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=253[/url]

Have a look, comments welcome.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Not a map but there is this list on a German website called Farang dot de

[url]http://www.farang.de/thaimassagen.html[/url]

But this list may contain some massage places that are more legit massage. That is not all may offer extra services. As far as I know almost all Thai massage in Berlin will include a happy ending hand job. At least the places that do not are in the minority. But not all places offer such services as bj. I am not really up on how it all works as Thai massage is not my thing really.

But I can say that anytime I have had a Thai massage here in Berlin, and always because I needed the massage, I was offered (an accepted) a finishing hand job at no extra cost. €50 for the hour seems to be standard.

If someone had the juice for it they could always set up a google map with the locations marked. I sure don't

AM[/QUOTE]

thanks - i will check out the farang website and maybee i will find the juice to do a google massage map! cheers

1) as i knew that i would have to stay for around 60 hours in berlin, i sent email to kd, 9 days before my arrival, for a meeting with one of her ladies : so, i expected to have one meeting with her, at least.
after spending around 30 hours in berlin, i was informed that no meeting would be possible (actually, earlier, in the morning, i was proposed a (no longer than) 45 minutes meeting !)
so, more than 1 week of preparation for zero meeting : 100% failure.

as i was completely dazed, frustrated and exhausted of this failure, i wanted to have a relaxing massage that would make me feel more «*confortable*». i realized that i didn't have any adress for a real good massage (not erotic, nor tantra) so i abandonned the idea and thought about an alternative to kd. i remembered that angus wrote that royal had beautiful rooms and furthermore it's not so far from kd. so i decided to visit this house even if i didn't have so much information about the ladies who worked there.

2) the adress is bundesplatz 8.
ubahn u9, station bundesplatz, there is an exit «*bundesplatz*». outside of this exit, royal should be behind us, where there is a bank agency. when the front door is opened, we should take the first stairs on our left, up to 2nd floor. a young english spoken housekeeper introduced me into a room and as in kd,one by one, the ladies introduced themselves to me : i thought the lady who stayed with me was nele ( .[url]http://www.bordell-berlin.to/luxusbordell/nele.html[/url] )
she began to give me a massage and, if i understood well, her «*regular*» job had connection with therapeutic massage too.
for kissing, she asked for extras. after some personal experiences, one of my personal rules was that not to pay for kissing but that day was a special day, i was so dazed and disppointed that i preferred to pay extras to optimize the conditions for my wellness : of course, as that should usually happenned with paying kisses, i got some unpassionate kisses , feeling probably some millimeters of her tongue. but except these kisses, she listened to my desires and really wanted to make me feel good. i think that a new meeting with her should be better because at the end of the meeting she was less tense than at the beginning ; by the way, i realized that i might be the cause of her tension when she told me something like «*you smile now !*» : probably i arrived at royal with my disappointed «*100% failure*» face that could not make her feel relaxed !!

3) this failure in bookings points out the fact that i should prepare a «*plan b*» (for the next times )
a) who can advise me a «*house*» that proposes bookings («*escort*») but the meetings may take place in its local ? where there are no extras for kissing and where the ladies do not practise cim ? a house where the risk of having links with «*mafia*» or other slaves-trading organizations is low ?
b) for no-sex (non erotic, nor tantra) massage, does anybody know some adresses ? can i find a sauna there ?
c) does anybody know other forums (probably in german but i will use an on-line translator) where i can get information about these houses and especially about ladies working in these houses ?
thanks

hi bobo,

guess who ;)

i will try to answer some of your questions but first to your kd disappointment. it is not so clear from your post the circumstances surrounding the failure. did you feel that the kd booking girl (hausmutti) mislead you as to the girl's availability? or did it feel more like the girl you booked just did not show as she was supposed to. if the later it is understandable and has happened to me once or twice at kd. these girl carry on complicated lives sometimes and especially a younger girl is not always so dependable. i do feel that kd as a reputable bordello will eventually weed out a really undependable girl, but an occasion non show is by me understandable. that you, a man who comes from out of town and is in anticipation of his pleasure, got disappointed is regrettable. in tis game though, it does happen.

if you feel mislead, and can present a valid & reasonable argument why, i really do recommend that you write an email to discuss this with kd. keep it balanced, point out our usual satisfaction with the place and even the fact of your very regular patronage, without seeming like you use it as a lever, if that makes sense. if you were mislead and can point out, reasonably why, it would not surprise me at all if you get some satisfaction. i mean you could get a reduced rate for a return visit.

i say this as i have seen such a thing on the german forum i visit (more later on this) in which a german monger and regular of kd had a sub standard session with a girl. she was a new arrival and apparently her inexperience really showed. she also tried to bluff her way through and not follow through on the usual kd excellence of service. this man took it up with management and was offered a reduced rate on his next session. i am not 100% sure but i think that the house absorbed their fee on his return and he paid only the girl’s (a different one) fee.

now that i think of it, and this part i am really not sure as it was some months back and my memory of it is sketchy at best. remember that i read all this on a german forum (with translator but still...) and i may not have got all the details correct. however, as i remember he did not even complain straight to the management, rather he wrote a fair, balanced report on the forum describing his session. the kd management, who apparently read the forum, then contacted him through the forum and offered him the discount as long as he could prove who he was somehow.
this did impress me even considering that kd obviously knew it was doing some pretty good pr and damage control on the forum. they are regular contributors on this forum and often announce new girls there.

so that all is a rather longwinded way of saying-if you feel slighted, make some noise in a polite way. you never know...

[quote=bobo.fr]3) this failure in bookings points out the fact that i should prepare a «*plan b*» (for the next times )[/quote]


always have a plan b. especially if you come from out of town with limited time etc.

[quote=bobo.fr]a) who can advise me a «*house*» that proposes bookings («*escort*») but the meetings may take place in its local ? where there are no extras for kissing and where the ladies do not practise cim ? a house where the risk of having links with «*mafia*» or other slaves-trading organizations is low ?[/quote]

i am not entirely sure what exactly you are looking for here. i can certainly recommend liberty as a fine bordello, a little cheaper than kd but with a fine atmosphere and generally top women. but dud sessions are not unheard of here. just i myself have experienced very few (maybe one or two of a couple dozen). i do seem to have developed a knack for choosing off the website. however, many of the women at liberty do cim. not all, but many.

to tell the truth i am doubtful that you will find a place that does not do, as policy, cim, except of course, kd. cim is pretty basic service for most guys and it is only kd’s normally stellar rep that allows them to operate fully covered sessions.

as for the mafia connection, unless you head on over to neuköln, i think you find it hard to find a place that is connected with organized crime. certainly kd, liberty, sp, vk and royal (all the bigger bordellos that is) i can not imagine this connection being there. mon rouge could be connected but i doubt it. it just has that slightly seedier feel to it ime and many girls from bulgaria/romania. there is also odette in tiergarten.

[url]http://www.odetteberlin.de/[/url]

this appears a very upscale place and indeed the prices are even higher than kd. but id you read the website it appears that this is an all inclusive price with kissing, cim and maybe even anal for some girls.

if you get tempted by bel ami, know that one girl i knew well told me that it is a very expensive place, the girls are well paid and top models. but to work there they more or less have to do bbfs with some very well heeled clients who are willing to pay very high prices for this service. this is by no means fact (in that i experienced it) but told to me by a girl who had no reason to lie to me.


[quote=bobo.fr]b) for no-sex (non erotic, nor tantra) massage, does anybody know some adresses ? can i find a sauna there ?[/quote]

could you not go to any good massage parlor and ask for a nonsexual massage with sauna? why would they turn you down? ekstase is said to be good. harmonie also.

[url]http://www.ekstase-massage.de/html/team.html[/url]
[url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/[/url]

for good non sexual spa with massage therapists on staff try the liquidrom.

[url]http://www.liquidrom-berlin.de/de/[/url]

it is a very nice place


[quote=bobo.fr]c) does anybody know other forums (probably in german but i will use an on-line translator) where i can get information about these houses and especially about ladies working in these houses ?
thanks[/quote]

verkehrsberichte is the best i know of. you might have to sign up with the age protector service used in germany. it is possible to join without (i joined, i do not own a cc) but as i remember very difficult. try joining late at night (03:00 a.m.) to get round the age check thing. but if you are here a lot and want the local buzz, this is where to find it. the forum is very “german”, meaning that the mods get very upset if you happen to post a question in the report section (ve must follow za rulzzzz!), but over all,while no isg, i is a good forum

[url]http://www.verkehrsberichte.de/wb/index.php?page=index[/url]

hope this helps. i am too tired to proof read it so sorry for typos

am

Thanks Angus for your quick answer

1) First failure with KD
I'm fan of KD for years and it's just a first failure.
I'm sure that Kira did what she could so, if she reads this post I would like to confirm that I appreciate her "last chance" attempts and I'm not angry, just really disappointed.
I think I would be less dazed (ans disappointed) if I was informed before my arrival (or at my arrival) that the meeting would be impossible : for example, I know that meetings with Viola would be impossible (because she's not in Berlin), meetings with Cora and June would be impossible because they didn't want (the "official" (and probably "diplomatical") cause was that they practised "bizaar" games only).

I was not lucky because apparently the only day the lady I asked for was not busy in her own life was the day she was completely busy at Text&Form (so why I was proposed for a "no longer than 45 minutes" meeting by Text&Form) and apparently she had to finish her "day" around 20:00 (instead of 17:00) certainly with her local regular clients.

I don't know how is the internal organization of KD but it seems that there are two "services" : "Text&Form" service and "escort" service ; and I feel that they seem to work separately so "navigating" between two services will consumate time and so make us miss more opportunities. Furthermore , I met more often than in the past housekeepers who seemed talking only German and some ladies who helped them in answering phone calls didn't want to spend too much time in organizing meetings for her colleague !!

2) Mon Rouge
I had a doubt too because , according to its web site, I saw so many Bulgarian and Romanian ladies who work there.

3) Belami
It looks like a saunaclub where clients meet other clients.

4) Furthermore I really prefer to kiss ladies who did not practise CIM before (I know many French guys like that but I'm not French born :-) !!!)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]There is also Odette in Tiergarten.

[url]http://www.odetteberlin.de/[/url]

This appears a very upscale place and indeed the prices are even higher than KD. But id you read the website it appears that this is an all inclusive price with kissing, cim and maybe even anal for some girls.
[/QUOTE]

I had a closer look at the webpage and it seems I am wrong. The prices for Odette are high and inclusive of just the normal services. Well,bbbj (no cim) is included but FT, Anal etc. are charged extra at higher than standard price. So this place sets a new high mark for prices. I wonder if their standards justify this? Many of the girls look nice enough but it seems you can get similar for less. Angus will not be knocking on their door anytime soon.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]I'm fan of KD for years and it's just a first failure.[/QUOTE]

Well it sounds like just a booking error and they can not be blamed top harshly for that. As I say, it happens in this hobby. I am not sure if you understood that KD reads the German forum and as far as I know does not come here. But then again maybe they do? Never seen any indication that KD reads this forum. If they do-where's my discount session for all my good will ambassador work? Kidding.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]I don't know how is the internal organization of KD but it seems that there are two "services" : "Text&Form" service and "escort" service ; and I feel that they seem to work separately so "navigating" between two services will consumate time and so make us miss more opportunities. Furthermore , I met more often than in the past housekeepers who seemed talking only German and some ladies who helped them in answering phone calls didn't want to spend too much time in organizing meetings for her colleague !![/QUOTE]

Not sure how they manage things. But I do know that when booking escorts through KD it seems better to give them lots of notice. That is do not phone at 19:00 asking for the girl at 20:00. I believe that many (most?) of their escorts work on call and need some hours of prep time. Plan ahead.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]I had a doubt too because , according to its web site, I saw so many Bulgarian and Romanian ladies who work there.[/QUOTE]

Personally I do not think MR has any ties to organized crime. It is a great bordello as Charlie 123 (our MR expert) will attest to. I just say that of the big Berlin bordellos it has a slightly rougher feel and more girls working from abroad. This does not mean crime. I do not want to start unfounded rumors.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]It looks like a saunaclub where clients meet other clients.[/QUOTE]

As I hear it is more a sauna club but also exclusive and caters to what the clients want. Maybe if the gent wants privacy and no cotact with other clients he will get that. But it will cost. There is actually a pretty interesting wiki article on this place.

[url]http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bel_Ami_(Berlin)[/url]

It can be read easily with a browser translator. But I am not sure how totally accurate it is and can not imagine it being posted without in put from the club itself. Therefore what ever is said in there has to be taken lightly until such time as Angus sells the film rights to his memoirs and makes a personal assessment. Then (or sooner if the budget grows) I will make an exploratory visit and report back.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr] Furthermore I really prefer to kiss ladies who did not practise CIM before (I know many French guys like that but I'm not French born :-) !!!)[/QUOTE]

I suspect you have a long and fruitless search here my friend. Outside KD cim is a fact of life unless you can find a particular girl who does not do it. Even then you can not be certain. I can think of two girls I have seen, both of whom do not list cim in their service profile. Both do cim for Angus as he is clean and polite. Girls often under report their services on their profiles. If they like your look the offer more, at a price. In any case, outside KD and Artemis kissing is a paid option 90% of the time. And I, like you, prefer not to pay for kissing. Not because I am cheap (though that can be argued) but because I find kissing a beautiful intimacy. Paying for it seems to ruin it. That I am quite willing to pay to fuck the girl is an irony even I do not really understand. As always YMMV.

I personally do not think about it (too much) and put my faith behind modern mouthwash. I guess this is a personal thing.

AM

hi everyone,

here i offer a belated report on my recent trip to berlin. i was with this girl torry. [url]http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/girl/torry.html[/url] it had a very happy ending.

i made a phone call to the agency in the morning. the girl on the other side of the phone line couldn’t speak good english, so i had to text her with all the details. a few minutes later i called back again and she said it is arranged, and torry speaks very good english.

at 4pm sharp i got a phone call from the agency. the girl told me torry is downstairs and asked me to pick her up. i felt a bit embarrassing but i had to face it. when i came down to the hall i saw her sitting on couch and playing mobile phone. i called her name and then we greeted each other in a business way. when we went to the lift seems no one is paying attention to us. that’s good.

on the way to my room we have a little chat. she is from latvia and only worked in berlin for one month. yes this is probably true. i only saw her photos on the agency’s website recently.

got in the room. i offered two bottles of water and i emphasised that they are all un-opened. she didn’t take one. we started negotiation. it is 90 euro for one hour. i asked for some pictures and a dildo fun. she said it would be at least 120 euro. done and i paid her money. but be careful now i forgot to ask how many times i can come.

she undressed herself completely. she is tall, though not as tall as i expected. nice and spotless skin. the breast is said to be c cup but i thought it is bit smaller. btw she looked a bit older than what shown on the pictures on the agency’s website, and she confirmed this that she is actually slightly older than the website claims. but still she looks very good for me. she began to pose, in a professional way. after a few pictures i asked her to put on a grey legging, and then a bright green swimming suit. i brought both of my favourite clothes from my home just to see what they look like on a real woman’s body.

after about 50 photos we got down to the real business. i laid on bed and she gave me a gentle bbbj. it was really nice. she touched all the right spots on my little member. after a while i said let’s have some sex. she said you want me on top. i said yes. she put a condom on and climbed on top of me. the sex was very good and i can tell she was passionately involved in it. after a few strokes i came. then we laid on beds and had a light chat again. she is good at talking but not very talkative. a few minutes later i suggested having shower together and i want to fuck her again. she said she only does one sex in the session. i said it is written on the website that the customer can come as much as he can. she said she must to check with the agency and change it. but she agreed to have a second round with me. i also tried to finger her but she refused. also no kissing (i later found out kissing and figuring are extras).

we went to the shower room and i gave her gentle wash to every bit and piece of her body (except hairy). seems she enjoyed it very much. after i finished my work she washed my little member in return and made it hard up again. we started a slow standing doggy fuck with condom. this time i lasted longer, until she told me it is not very comfortable to stand in the small shower cabinet. i speeded it up and came in a minute. before i came i indicated to her that i am coming, so she pushed my bottom against the wall with her butt and rotated her butt. it drastically enhanced the climax. it is definitely the best sex experience i ever had.

after the sex she stayed in the shower room for a while to clean everything up. in the mean while we had some chat. it was already near the end of the one hour session so i did ask for dildo fun. before she goes, she took a bottle of water and gave a light kiss on my cheek.

overall, this is one of the best encounters with an escort and i am very satisfied. i can give the marks: face 7/10, body 8/10, service 9/10 and altitude 10//10.

later yesterday i found that she is also working in a brothel and offering “dominas”. see here [url]http://www.bizarre-rollenspiele.de/girl/index.html[/url] you can see the link at the website of [url]http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/[/url]

i definitely recommend torry and probably will use this agency again.

last thing. torry told me she will come back to latvia in one month time.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Things seem to have stabilized the past 12 hours on the servers so I have published today the third and final installment in the Berlin escort series, the indy scene.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=253[/url]

Have a look, comments welcome.

AM[/QUOTE]As always, Angus many thanks for your report.

I have used indy girls reasonably frequently when I was in Berlin during my last stay; now back will undoubtedly get back into it.

Some observations from my side:

1. Far more hit and miss (inevitably) than using one of the mid-price agencies (KLD, Mon Rouge). I have had some wonderful sessions but some have been quite frankly disastrous.

2. Normally I have used the Berlin Intim site; as Angus has indicated pretty obvious to find your way around and you can see the "Indies" who are really part of agencies (all pretty transparent). From my experience the process tends to work well and not had any disappointments with the girl on the site not being the one who comes along.

3. The girls can be less "hardened" to the business than at the agencies. Can be a good and a bad thing. On the positive side you can sometimes get closer to the illusive GFE. I've had some wonderful sessions where the time together has just flowed with no clock watching etc. On the other hand you can find girls who are just giving it a go because of personal circumstances and subsequently find it isn't really for them I remember one occasion where a very pretty girl came around; great chat and banter etc beforehand. Then got round down to business. Her profile had suggested OWO etc. When I suggested this she looked horrified and gave a face as if I had suggested bareback anal or satanic sacrifices. Said she really couldn't imagine doing this in a paid session and launched into a diatribe about this. At this stage my John Thomas had lost all interest and headed South. This then genuinely upset her and she asked if she was doing something wrong. All ended badly. Her profile disappeared from Berlin Intim very soon after; I guess prostitution wasn't for her. My point is not that she refused (though I am very clean, charming etc etc); that's her prerogative but that she didn't have the pro's way of doing it. A Mon Rouge girl would kind of shake her head, smile and move on if asked to do a service she didn't want to do.

4. You are letting someone into your home; this is where you live, where you smile at the neighbours in the morning. With the agencies (KLD, MR) I have not had an issue here as the girls come quite discreetly, they can bring the appropriate underclothes with them and they are very professional. Whilst I have never had a problem with an Indy, it does stay in the back of your mind that this is someone you really don't know coming into your home. Will they behave in a discreet fashion, will there be trouble.

5. Berlin is very curious in terms of the escort scene. In most other cities the escort scene is thriving but not in Berlin. I guess it must be because the legal bordellos are so good in Berlin (KLD, MR, Royal) that for many guys there is no need for outcalls. This is complete contrast to say London where such bordellos are not legal.

I'll carry on as I find the process itself of someone visiting me highly charged. That's just me. Whilst I really like the bordellos there is something quite cool for me of having a really sexy girl in my apartment having fun with me.

Hi All,

I am new to this forum but am already finding it very helpful indeed. My friend and I will be visiting Berlin in November and can't wait to visit FKK Artemis. There is some advice I require:

There are many positive comments about all the different clubs and brothels however are there any 'no go' places where mongers have been conned?

After trying to research the Berlin nightlife and of course seeing so many places to visit I am like a kid in a sweet shop and am not sure where else to visit. Is there a top ten of places to visit for first timers to this kind of adventure. We really want to try everything in a weekend.

We are also interested in TS girls. Does Berlin have that kind of scene and if so is it safe?

Apologies as these questions have probably been asked a million times before..

Thanks for the great forum it's awesome!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Personally I do not think MR has any ties to organized crime. It is a great bordello as Charlie 123 (our MR expert) will attest to. I just say that of the big Berlin bordellos it has a slightly rougher feel and more girls working from abroad. This does not mean crime. I do not want to start unfounded rumors.[/QUOTE]MR is terrific. Standard there is uniformally top-notch. If you want to avoid CiM-perpetrators, try Sandra the tall brunette with huge tits (not on website). She is very 'clean', limited-service (vis-a-vis extras), but might suit Bobo's agenda

Charlie

[B]1) Odette [/B]
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
There is also Odette in Tiergarten.
[url]http://www.odetteberlin.de/[/url]
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[/QUOTE]
Thanks Angus,
I'm sure I met at least one KD lady (I don't remember who ?) who told me she worked for "Odette" in the past.
I wonder if, before working for KD, former-KD Kylie worked for Odette where she had to clean the house's windows (because she was late ? I'm not quite sure but I'm sure she had to clean the windows and she appreciated that at KD, working ladies were respected)

By the way, I had a look at the web site and realized that only German version was proposed : will no-German spoken clients be welcome ?


[B]2) KD[/B]
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Not sure how they manage things. But I do know that when booking escorts through KD it seems better to give them lots of notice. That is do not phone at 19:00 asking for the girl at 20:00. I believe that many (most?) of their escorts work on call and need some hours of prep time. Plan ahead.
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My first email asking for appointments were posted 9 days before my arrival.
The day before my arrival, when I was in another German city, I was informed that :
a) at my arrival day, the meeting would be impossible
b) at the following day, she would work at "Text&Form"
(no information (yet) for the day after that would be my last half-day presence in Berlin)

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]
I don't know how is the internal organization of KD but it seems that there are two "services" : "Text&Form" service and "escort" service ; and I feel that they seem to work separately so "navigating" between two services will consumate time and so make us miss more opportunities. Furthermore , I met more often than in the past housekeepers who seemed talking only German and some ladies who helped them in answering phone calls didn't want to spend too much time in organizing meetings for her colleague !!
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[/QUOTE]
Facts were :
a) at around 09:50 AM (so before opening times), I called Text&Form.
A lady told me that the lady I asked for had an appointment at 10:00 and proposed me a 45 minutes meeting.
I asked if a 90 minutes (or longer) meeting would be possible later.
I was said to call back because she was "just" a working-lady, not the housekeeper.

b) I sent 2 SMS and one email to KD's "Escort department" expecting that "Text&Form department" would be contacted (in German) to organize an appointment. Apparently, "Escort department" tried to contact directly the lady, not their "staff colleagues" of "Text&Form" : of course, as the lady was in room, she could not answer and [B]probably[/B]( I can't be sure but that may make sense) "Text&Form department" could take new appointments with clients who contacted them directly during her meetings.

c) Well, I was informed between 14:30-15:00 (2:30 PM- 3:00 PM) that no meeting would be possible.

(So, on my side, I saw that for a request before 11:00 AM she was already fully booked until 17:00 (finally she stayed until 20:00 but I supposed these meetings were reserved for her regular local clients ?))

[B]3) Bel Ami[/B]
I remembered bad posts about Bel Ami, may be this one (only ?)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=908773&postcount=1688[/url]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
......
If you feel mislead, and can present a valid & reasonable argument why, I really do recommend that you write an email to discuss this with KD. Keep it balanced, point out our usual satisfaction with the place and even the fact of your very regular patronage, without seeming like you use it as a lever, if that makes sense. If you were mislead and can point out, reasonably why, it would not surprise me at all if you get some satisfaction. I mean you could get a reduced rate for a return visit.

I say this as I have seen such a thing on the German forum I visit (more later on this) in which a German monger and regular of KD had a sub standard session with a girl. She was a new arrival and apparently her inexperience really showed. She also tried to bluff her way through and not follow through on the usual KD excellence of service. This man took it up with management and was offered a reduced rate on his next session. I am not 100% sure but I think that the house absorbed their fee on his return and he paid only the girl’s (a different one) fee.

Now that I think of it, and this part I am really not sure as it was some months back and my memory of it is sketchy at best. Remember that I read all this on a German forum (with translator but still...) and I may not have got all the details correct. However, as I remember he did not even complain straight to the management, rather he wrote a fair, balanced report on the forum describing his session. The KD management, who apparently read the forum, then contacted him through the forum and offered him the discount as long as he could prove who he was somehow.
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[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your suggestion Angus but I've never been interested in that, in contrary, I'm ready to pay more for more satisfaction.

Often, I offered tips to ladies who made me feel nice (the last time I met the lady I missed recently , tips were offered as "fees" for her baby-sitter; and talking about money, I should say that, once, "my" KD's "jewel", former Czech-Polish Romy did give back to me part of the money saying "it's too much" !!!)

When I read the story you related about a "sub standard session" with a girl I remembered a girl named Sandra who worked at KD some years ago (CAUTION : SANDRA who currently works at KD is OK, just limited English when I met her, probably one year or more ago; so her English may be better now) : I stopped the session with her after around 15-20 minutes while I paid for 60 minutes; I did not make any scandals because I didn't want her to get troubles : I often have (too ?) much compassion for sex-workers.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]Thanks for your suggestion Angus but I've never been interested in that, in contrary, I'm ready to pay more for more satisfaction.[/QUOTE]

Well if you are okay with letting it go this can be the best option. No muss, no fuss.


[QUOTE=Bobo.fr] I didn't want her to get troubles : I often have (too ?) much compassion for sex-workers.[/QUOTE]


I commend you for this compassion. I think sex workers often need some extra compassion. I also think it can be just as compassionate to say the truth of a situation, if I am unsatisfied to say so, and give reasons why. Maybe I take the whole thing of sex work too seriously but I really look for and admire women who treat sex work as their art and want to perfect it. Thus sensitive feedback can be helpful towards this end. And let us face it, for many women it is just a job and they do not care. One has to look at this and judge if it is appropriate.

In the end, if you are okay, you are okay. My suggestion is not to stir things up just to get a discount, but to help the business know how the customer, you, was effected by the screw up. That you might end up with a discount, is beside the point.

Working in the service industry I always knew when someone was just trying to get a freebie and when they were genuinely interested in offering feedback. I was always pretty grateful to the latter group and actually wanted to give them something in return. It is kind of an energetic thing. If someone is trying to take something from me I tend to resist. If they try to give something (useful feedback) I tend to say thanks and offer something back.


AM

[QUOTE=Tompnis]I'll carry on as I find the process itself of someone visiting me highly charged. That's just me. Whilst I really like the bordellos there is something quite cool for me of having a really sexy girl in my apartment having fun with me.[/QUOTE]

Excellent post Tompnis! It goes to the RofD thread here on the ISG and I have made a short addendum to my own indy escort post on Angus' blog linking it to you report.

Thanks for taking the time.

Angus

Hi Greg,

I'll do my best

[QUOTE=Greg173]There are many positive comments about all the different clubs and brothels however are there any 'no go' places where mongers have been conned?[/QUOTE]

I do not think that there are places you will be conned as in end up with a €3000 bar tab for a bottle of champagne like you find in some places in Europe. But certainly there are good and not so good places. If being conned includes paying high rates for substandard service, this can even happen in an excellent FKK like Artemis. If you have not already done so I strongly recommend that you read the Berlin thread and the FKK Artemis thread to get an idea. Research is your friend and nobody can really do it for you.

Generally I recommend staying away from really obvious tourist clubs like those around Stuttgarter Platz. Not that you can not have a good time there. I myself had a very good session in one of these places. And there is a report way back in the thread of a very, very good session experienced by another member. But you do run a slightly higher chance of getting substandard service as they are places catering to green tourists.

Recent reports of Caligula, the flat rate club in Berlin Schöneberg are not good. Again, do your research on the forum.



[QUOTE=Greg173]After trying to research the Berlin nightlife and of course seeing so many places to visit I am like a kid in a sweet shop and am not sure where else to visit. Is there a top ten of places to visit for first timers to this kind of adventure. We really want to try everything in a weekend.[/QUOTE]

Not sure if I can do top 10. And it really does depend on what you want but here goes Angus' very non objective opinion.

Artemis
Liberty
KD
Mon Rouge
Royal

There I run out of steam, at 5. But really, this is so subjective and if you ask me tomorrow I might order it differently. Artemis is on top because I like the FKK style. The others are really interchangeable and it depends on which girl I might like to see as much as the weather and if I have time. Liberty is very close to my flat so I like it. See what I mean?

Also, how adventurous do you want to be? If really adventurous then just get at it. Berlin is over all a pretty safe city. There is a very diverse night life and the streets are lively late into the night. Even in the seedier Neuköln district I really doubt that you get mugged. As long as you do not drink yourself silly and stumble around with your wallet hanging out all should be good. And need I mention, stay away from the street trade unless you really want to be fleeced. Have a look for Unter's report to see what I mean.


[QUOTE=Greg173]We are also interested in TS girls. Does Berlin have that kind of scene and if so is it safe?[/QUOTE]

Ummmm...Not interested in this so I know more or less nothing. In any case, the ISG forum expressly forbids talk of LBs on the Thai threads. I am not 100% sure if this includes the Berlin thread but I do not think it appropriate to find out. And even asking the question can get you banned. You will have to look elsewhere for this info. Personally I could not care where you stick your dick, or if you like to suck them, but I do respect Jackson's policy and desire to keep this forum about actual women. Not to say you can not have your interests, just do not talk of them here.

[QUOTE=Greg173] as these questions have probably been asked a million times before..[/QUOTE]

Well some have. But as long as you also check out the thread I personally do not mind a quick review. You might have a look for my Berlin guide. Sorry, I have a link to it bookmarked on my computer which is in the shop. It takes a bit of digging in the RofD (Reports of Distinction) thread but there is quite a bit of detailed info there.

[QUOTE=Greg173]Thanks for the great forum it's awesome![/QUOTE]

It is awesome. And it gets more awesome when mongers such as yourself report back on your adventures. I hope this happens (often it does not) but please, leave out the TS stuff. Nit that there is anything wrong with it.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,

First of all I think it very possible & safe. Wise? You will have to decide but then when is mongering ever really wise.

I had to wonder what kind of budget you have in mind. And did you envision the girls coming for a set fee, all included? or that the guys attending the party pay as they go. If the former it is easy but expensive, at least by my standards. The latter would be less expensive to the person hosting the party (you?) but might be harder to arrange. Especially in advance with little to no German knowledge. You could of corse use a more expensive & reliable agency (Kamilla Dee's escort for example) but that would get quite expensive for multiple girls & a few hours. Like 3-5 thousand Euros (200€ per girl per hour,3-5 hrs estimate). Like I say, you could of course do it cheaper with a lesser agency but then the reliability factor goes down. The Berlin escort scene is not the most reliable I have known.

There are other questions in my mind like-do you really want an orgy? or is it more having the girls available to go to more private rooms. The orgy scenario would be again more expensive. Are you looking for really quality girls? or are you happy with the more...er...skanky variety.

If you answer some of these questions I can perhaps point you towards suitable agencies. But you will have to do the negotiation yourself. I am not (yet) offering Angus Magee Pimp services;)

Personally I would suggest Artemis as a good club and venue for this. You could even, for a price, rent out their VIP party room (not sure of the cost) and stock it with girls from the club. I do not know exactly how this works but a call to Artemis would clear that up. The front desk girls generally speak good English.

Regards

AM[/QUOTE]Sorry for late respond I was on vacation.

I would rather prefer to do the party in the apartment, but if you think that there are no reliable agencies, and its better to go in Artemis, than who am I to judge you (Artemis seems also quite nice).

My plan was to call some recommended and reliable escort service or some kind of agencie, and ask for 5 girls to come in the apartment in aggred time. I didnt ment real orgy I ment more like changing partners, trying out 2 girls, or something like that (I know that it costs extra). The girls doesnt have to be top models, but it would be nice that I can see their pic in their real image. And I was planning a budget of about 150-200 e per girl.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Greg,

I'll do my best

I do not think that there are places you will be conned as in end up with a €3000 bar tab for a bottle of champagne like you find in some places in Europe. But certainly there are good and not so good places. If being conned includes paying high rates for substandard service, this can even happen in an excellent FKK like Artemis. If you have not already done so I strongly recommend that you read the Berlin thread and the FKK Artemis thread to get an idea. Research is your friend and nobody can really do it for you.

Generally I recommend staying away from really obvious tourist clubs like those around Stuttgarter Platz. Not that you can not have a good time there. I myself had a very good session in one of these places. And there is a report way back in the thread of a very, very good session experienced by another member. But you do run a slightly higher chance of getting substandard service as they are places catering to green tourists.

Recent reports of Caligula, the flat rate club in Berlin Schöneberg are not good. Again, do your research on the forum.

Not sure if I can do top 10. And it really does depend on what you want but here goes Angus' very non objective opinion.

Artemis

Liberty

KD

Mon Rouge

Royal

There I run out of steam, at 5. But really, this is so subjective and if you ask me tomorrow I might order it differently. Artemis is on top because I like the FKK style. The others are really interchangeable and it depends on which girl I might like to see as much as the weather and if I have time. Liberty is very close to my flat so I like it. See what I mean?

Also, how adventurous do you want to be? If really adventurous then just get at it. Berlin is over all a pretty safe city. There is a very diverse night life and the streets are lively late into the night. Even in the seedier Neuköln district I really doubt that you get mugged. As long as you do not drink yourself silly and stumble around with your wallet hanging out all should be good. And need I mention, stay away from the street trade unless you really want to be fleeced. Have a look for Unter's report to see what I mean.

Ummmm. Not interested in this so I know more or less nothing. In any case, the ISG forum expressly forbids talk of LBs on the Thai threads. I am not 100% sure if this includes the Berlin thread but I do not think it appropriate to find out. And even asking the question can get you banned. You will have to look elsewhere for this info. Personally I could not care where you stick your dick, or if you like to suck them, but I do respect Jackson's policy and desire to keep this forum about actual women. Not to say you can not have your interests, just do not talk of them here.

Well some have. But as long as you also check out the thread I personally do not mind a quick review. You might have a look for my Berlin guide. Sorry, I have a link to it bookmarked on my computer which is in the shop. It takes a bit of digging in the RofD (Reports of Distinction) thread but there is quite a bit of detailed info there.

It is awesome. And it gets more awesome when mongers such as yourself report back on your adventures. I hope this happens (often it does not) but please, leave out the TS stuff. Nit that there is anything wrong with it.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply Angus that has proved to be very helpful indeed. My friend and I are really excited about our trip and will certainly report back as a complete freshie to Berlin and a newbie to the mongering scene from our point of view.

Thanks again- also I have read parts of your blog and have watched your YouTube vid, which I must say was also very helpful.

Keep up the good work

Regards,

Greg

[QUOTE=Talac]Sorry for late respond I was on vacation.

I would rather prefer to do the party in the apartment, but if you think that there are no reliable agencies, and its better to go in Artemis, than who am I to judge you (Artemis seems also quite nice).

My plan was to call some recommended and reliable escort service or some kind of agencie, and ask for 5 girls to come in the apartment in aggred time. I didnt ment real orgy I ment more like changing partners, trying out 2 girls, or something like that (I know that it costs extra). The girls doesnt have to be top models, but it would be nice that I can see their pic in their real image. And I was planning a budget of about 150-200 e per girl.[/QUOTE]

All I can do is give my recommendation. Truth be told I am still not sure the over all budget for this. Artemis would cost 80/guest for the entry then 60/half hour in the room plus any extras like cim. If you are picking up the tab it could get expensive. As mentioned there is a private vip room at Artemis but I do not know the details of renting it.

If you read the thread you will see that reliability is not the strong suit of Berlin escort trade in this price range. Not to say there are not some okay agencies, just no one I could say to you-call this one they are a sure thing. At the girl budget you mention I think you could probably get the 5 girls for a two hour period, maybe. I am not sure if they would charge extra just for the multiple man scenario. That is, the normal price is around 90/hr +any extras. But this is for sex maybe twice with the same guy. If a girl is to be expected to fuck 4 or 5 guys in the space of an hour or so she will likely want extra. And who could blame her.

Well, I've had my say, given my recommendations. Good luck and please do actually write a report. It would be interesting to hear the out come and results.

AM

Dear lovers of the pink box, here I am on the road again. I will visit Berlin soon, and as it has happened in the past I will write reports of my hunting season!

This time, I would like to taste something different. I would like to have a session or two with thai or indonesian girls (NO TS, SHEMALES ETC. I ONLY LIKE 100% GIRLS!). There are some posts on the Berlin thread referring to thai massages, maybe ending with HJ or BJ, but I am looking for a regular brothel with oriental pussies to get fucked. Any advice on this?

Also, I would like to insert my dear friend in some fresh, slim ebony flesh. What places would you suggest?

I plan to visit Fredenhaus, Rose16 (last time it was closed, damn!), Liberty and perhaps some places you might suggest me, and I will afterwards give you details on my visit.

As always, thank you for your much appreciated help, which I try to pay back with my future posts.

Kasper

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thanks for making your first report Joy Rider. And an interesting one too. I have never in all my years in Berlin seen or heard of this bordello.

A couple of questions. Is there a location for this bordello or did you do a home visit. From the website they do seem to indicate that both are available but give no clue as to the in call address.

And what do you pay for the session. The website gives some prices for house visits (pretty expensive I might add) but gives no price for a bordello visit. Yet they do seem to indicate that bordello visits are available.

Thanks for any clarification.

AM[/QUOTE]Hi Angus,

Sorry for the delayed response. Don't log on here that often.

Yes, there is a location for this place. It's Uhlandstr. 27 (Just off Ku'Damm). For the 1 hour, I pay 110€ (not sure about other prices). Strangely enough, I once called them and asked about their service and they told me that they only offered "massages", but for sure that's not true.

I do have a private email address for Alicia. It's the way I usually arrange appointments now. So drop me a message and I can let you have the details.

Hi

I recently reported on a new firm escort-sex24 and their girl Natalie and subsequently Spec20 wrote a positive report on her stable-mate Paris.

Today I also had an outing myself with Paris and I can wholeheartedly endorse Spec's positive recommendation

[url]http://www.escort-sex24.de/paris[/url]

She is prettier in reality than in her webpics - always a bonus! She used to be a model until struck by a minor pigmentation malady, and she has a georgeous firm figure with long legs, a flat tummy, nice boobs (man-made) and a very pretty face that really isn't shown to best effect on the website

We chatted a while before and after - she is an intelligent and thoughtful girl and pleasant and relaxed company.

She kisses nicely, her BJ is competent without being exceptional, and she is a nice tight fuck.

Very good value for 100E. I'm not sure whether I'd bother to do her again given the wonderful range of similar opportunities afforded by this great city, but I wouldn't hesitate to commend her to anyone looking for an attractive success-guaranteed session with a hot chick.

I like this agency a lot - they deliver what they promise. She confirmed that they run a genuine 24 hour service which is another plus point. I see that they have added a 3rd girl (Roxanna) - I think I know what I'll be having for breakfast tomorrow!

Charlie

KG,Website:[url]http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/[/url]

The King George has been on my list of clubs to visit for some time. I have never been to a flat rate club before and indeed the very idea does not sit with me comfortably. Flat rate clubs have sprung up relatively recently as an off shot of the Partytreff scene. While I have also never been to a Partytreff, my good friend Iseeu has told me very accurately what they are about and how they work. While Partytreff seems to be about inexpensive sex, it is also about the party, a swinger atmosphere. At least this is how I understand it.

The King George, as I experienced it, is first and for most a bar. But it is a bar in which ladies are available for sex at no extra cost other than the cost to enter the bar-€99. How they pull this off, that is, what exactly the economics of the place are, I have no idea. But when one does a few calculations in the head after seeing the business on what appeared to be a pretty typical Tuesday evening one thing is for sure-these ladies do not earn top dollar for selling their pussies. It is also a place that has me wondering, exactly how “free” are these girls? Upon speaking with them a bit, I do not think that they are there under lock and key, except perhaps the shackles of their own economic circumstance back in the home country which is, for the most part, Romania. If this sort of scenario offends you, tickles your indignation bone that such things should not be happening, perhaps it be best if you give the King George a miss. If you can drop these moral ideas for an evening (Ol’ Angus is good at dropping things other than his trousers in the presence of a hooker and in the interest of a good report) then by all means head on over for an evening of a certain type of whoring and fun.

As I mention, the King George has been on my to do list for a long time. The fact that it is not three minutes walk from my flat and that I walk by the place almost daily has something to do with this but it is also that, as Berlin’s roving reporter, I felt it my duty to check the place out. The thought of going in alone, however, did not appeal. This would be the number one recommendation I have for this place, do not go there alone! Having a wingman is crucial for success in clubs of this nature, both as a way of passing the time in an atmosphere where there is little else to do but drink, and as a way of keeping the ladies in check. The latter point being the most important in my opinion.

A couple of weeks back Charlie 123 and I, who had met in July at Artemis, were exchanging a few pms on the finer points of the Berlin escort scene. I mentioned to him that I would like to visit the King George and was he interested. He answered yes and so we set a evening aside and met early yesterday evening for our adventure. We both agreed that an early arrival would be good and so at around 18:00 on Tuesday we were paying our entry fee and walking into the dimly lit bar.

Angus had actually done a recon mission to the bar a couple of day earlier. So I knew the set up and had even scouted out the girls a wee bit. My recon mission told me that the place was basically clean, had a number of girls and at least one who I considered hot. The rest I described as doable except one. As we sat at our table and I looked around I wondered if my “doable” description was a wee bit strong. In fact my observation at this point was that there was one hot girl, one quite attractive (cute) girl, a small handful who looked better as the evening progressed and one who I would chew my arm off to get away from. More on the girls later.

We settled in, drinks in hand, and watched the action on the stage. Two girls (there were about 4 at the time plus Petronella, the Queen Bee, who sets herself apart from the other girls) dance with unprofessional charm, and little else, on the stage complete with poles. Almost at once one of the girls came over and suggested we buy her a piccolo of champagne.

Here we go, says Charlie.

But no, in fact the request for champagne was easily rebuffed and I did not get the feeling that we were, as a result, immediately marked as cheap. The girls were just doing their job, putting out feelers, trying to determine who we were and what was possible from us. A short word here about dressing for the King George. Charlie and I were dressed in a sort of opposite fashion, Charlie, fresh from a day of business, had on a business suit and tie. I had on my usual Berlin sloppy garb of jeans, un-ironed short sleeve shirt and a comfortable, but unstylish vest. Oh, and the fashion disaster lambskin lined Crocs. Neither one of us was really dressed for the King. My suggestion would be to try to wear something casual but with a bit of style, something that gives a vague aroma money but does not suggest business account. As I think of it now the combination of Charlie and I was probably perfect, or at least better than I thought at the time. It set up, I feel, a sort of question in the minds of the ladies. In our mis-matched-ness the girls did not know quite how to button hole us. This may have been the reason that despite the fact that we refused on a number of occasions to fall for the piccolo gambit, the girls kept coming. Or maybe it was due to the fact that we were, for a long time, the only customers in the bar.

When you enter the King George, as mentioned, you pay a one time entry price of €99. Well, in fact you pay €100 as they do not offer change for your €100, and I rather feel it would be extremely bad form to press the point. Instead you are given three King George dollars, printed coupons looking like dollar bills-King George dollars. The idea with these dollars is as a kind of incentive (or cash grab depending upon the spin you out on it) for the ladies to contact the cliental. As the ladies dance or approach you they ask for you to tuck the dollars in their bikini bottoms or bra. In fact, “ask” might be understating it a wee bit. The girls in fact demand that you give them the dollar bills. And if one gets one, they all want one. My own feeling about this is that it pays to be a little free with the dollars. You are given three, and you can go to the entry desk and buy more, one Euro gets you one dollar. Don’t go over board with the dollars, refusal is okay, and again, refusal does not mean, at least it did not for Charlie and I, that the girls then ignore you. But it seems that the best way is to buy a few (€10 worth) and give them out relatively freely until gone. The price of the evening increases slightly but it does give the monger a way of interacting with the girls, and through this interaction one can judge the girl’s fun quotient and personality.

Of course for old Angus, the FQP (Fun Quotient Personality) test was for naught. I had my eye almost immediately on one of the girls, one who was cute (the cutest but not the hottest-Petronella) but was, in retrospect, an obvious non performer. Perhaps 20 minutes, no more than half an hour, into our evening I called over Gabi as Charlie teased and tested one of the other girls. I tried every club gambit I knew to find common ground, all to no avail. As this is a flat rate club though, and the fee is paid, all one risks in a trip to the room is one’s own ammo. So after failing to determine young Gabi’s hopes, aspirations or hobbies, I suggested the only avenue left to us, a trip to the back rooms.

Gabi checks in with the bartender (maybe this is how they get paid by the session?) and off we go. The rooms, all in the back of the club, are functional and reasonable clean. At least they look vacuumed, the showers are scum free and the bed spreads have to be examined a bit closely to see the crusty white stains. Fine sensibilities might want to give the place a miss or bring a sheet. Angus takes a quick ball washing shower, suddenly worried about his wallet which is out of sight on the other side of the room, and quickly joins Gabi on the bed spread with towels. It is quickly apparent that this will not be soul sex. Nipple licks may or may not be allowed. I did not ask. But my feeling is that it would have been a negative response had I done so. I lay back, Gabi applies the condom with her mouth and gets busy with a passable cbj. Little “A” responds and Gabi, who barely speaks German or English, tells me that my schwanz is big. I am sure that this is just her patter but I appreciate her effort. With Little “A” brought to attention Gabi suggests ficken. Off we go in mish and then after 5 minutes switch to doggy. The poor girl has that look of wanting to be somewhere else, anywhere in fact, other than in this small Schöneberg bar back room being boned by a monger more than twice her age (early 20s?) . As I see this my bothersome conscience kicks in and Little “A” starts to wilt. I soldier on for a few minutes, try a switch to mish, and then call it quits explaining to Gabi that she is sweet, sexy and adorable but that I am an old man and these things happen. This she accepts and we have a perfunctory cuddle, get dressed and leave.

I give you the messy details of this session mainly to illustrate that this is how this club runs, how the girls generally are in the room. While it is possible at the King to have a good session, my feeling is that most sessions will unfold pretty much in the fashion I describe unless you put in some effort and do the ground work needed for a good session. Charlie as I found him was busily engaged in doing this ground work. He had a couple of girls in his thrall, had invested in some more KG dollars and was busy doling them out. The moment that I will certainly always remember from this evening came when a young lady, attracted by the glittering sparkles of Charlie’s rather expensive watch, teased it off his wrist and affixed it to her own. The next thing we see is the girl disappearing around the corner to the front of the bar and Charlie is off his bar stool, as fast I have seen anyone move, in hot pursuit. The watch was quickly retrieved and the girl now knew, with certainty, that yes, it was real and not a cheap knockoff.

I will let Charlie describe his session if he choses to report. But I will say that Charlie did his vetting and seems to have been rewarded with a reasonable session. Angus, on the other hand waited around, made another faulty decision and ended up with much the same result as before with a girl whose name I forget (Alina?). Again she was cute enough but in the room it became apparent that she was no handmaid to Venus and I quickly pulled the plug, cuddled, joked and commiserated with her about the hardships of life. To the girls’ credit I did suggest that we leave the room a couple of times but she seemed to want to hang out and cuddle. I even had the idea to tip her a fiver if she let me lick her puss. This I did with no great enthusiasm, mindful of the facts of these girl’s certain and frequent trips to the room with all sorts of men. Basically I tickled the top of her pussy as a way of sliding her the fiver. She seemed pleased with the €5 if not with my masterful tongue technique.

Back out on the floor, with more girls around and a few more mongers (there never seemed to be more than a half dozen plus at a time in the bar, though it is hard to say as I did notice that later in the evening all the rooms were busy so maybe there were more men than it seemed there.

Charlie having had a session, our conversation becoming increasingly drunken as it was not difficult to get drinks, decided to call it quits. I started with rum and coke, switching to vodka sprite as it seemed easier for the bartender to remember and all told must have had a round 6-8. I did suspect the booze of being watered as the bartender poured good long shots and while drunk, I was not as messy as 8 drinks should make me. I decided to order yet another drink and hang in for a while longer. Hey, I was close to home, it was just gone 22:00 and I was in a very rare for Angus, drunken condition with girls who I had prepaid to fuck all around me. I considered my options,briefly landing on the girl Charlie had fucked, then deciding I wanted the Queen Bee, Petronella, or nothing.

Peronella is a breed apart at the King. Two days earlier she had given me the tour with a surprising degree of thoroughness and ambassadorial skills. She showed me the bar, the toilets (newly renovated) the rooms with showers, even the draws filled with bulk bought condoms for our protection. As I boastfully mentioned to Charlie in a pre-visit pm, I felt that had I asked she might just have bent forward and given me a visual tour of her pussy. When we arrived for our evening she was on her throne..er…barstool, at the front of the King. She shook my hand and turned haughtily away. I had to have her!

Charlie pointed out that she has the demeanor of a hostess and perhaps she does not actually go to the rooms with guests. Maybe her role is as ambassador and den mother to the other, obviously lesser girls. Just looking at her you can see she is cut from different cloth. Petronalla is tall, slim, tight butt, a quite beautiful face adorned with heavy make up and darkly mascaraed eyes. She smokes lady smokes with a long cigarette holder and has a coolness to her that is sort of out of place at the King George. Angus, on one of his by now slightly unstable and bumbling trips to the bar, suavely sidled to her and asked if she was in fact the Queen Bee, not available for a visit to the rooms, or was she good to go. Her icy facade broke just a wee bit, she gave me a sexy, knowing half smile and told me she was available in this way. She then turned her back and walked away. There is nothing in this world that quite gets old Angus in a lather than being suggestively ignored.

With Charlie gone I easily could have sat on my stool, ordered drinks and slowly sunken into oblivion. Tonight though, with my game on, I jumped off my bar stool, steadied my gait and went off in search of Petronella. I find her near the front at a table with a conveniently empty stool opposite. Boldly I sit and begin my witty repartee that never fails to get the Artemis ladies up the stairs and into the room. Petronella is game and we slide into a reasonably pleasant conversation, in German with the occasional English, Petronella slowly thawing as exposed to Angus’ warm charm. Conversation slows to a crawl after 10 minutes and Peronella herself than suggests a trip to the room. Off we go.

The session with Petonella did not disappoint. Indeed it was a very good half hour, for that was what we spent in the room. Her bj was good to very good, Angus licked her beautiful snatch with more abandon than perhaps was wise (at no extra charge) and Petronella was responsive and got into it. At last Angus, gun full cocked, quite easily, in one position (mish) released the hounds. The girl then cleaned me up, lay down on her tummy and ordered a massage. I say ordered as there was never a question that I would, or even could had I wanted to, say no to this massage. Petronella needed it and she was not shy in asking. I love this girl. Ten minutes later, relaxed, back cracked, she was visibly happy with my skills and, her cool girl armor replaced, we left the room, cheeks kissed, and Angus went to the bar swearing that it was time to leave.

Lads, I did not leave. I decided upon another drink and had a little look round. The bar was actually by now, around 23:00, sort of busy. The girls, just two or three of them, were on the prowl, though not quite in the same way we are used to at Artemis, and there were a number of punters looking around for the hotties, or what passes for hotties at the King. The girl Charlie had schtupped was still around and she dragged me over to one of the punters and said “EEngleesh”. I introduced myself and yes, the gent was in fact an English speaker, I will not mention his nationality in the interest of anonymity as he was not a forum reader, though he may soon be as I did direct him to my blog, the ISG forum and a few regular tourist attractions in Berlin. We had a nice chat before my new found friend felt the pull and disappeared into the back with one of my earlier (not the cute girl Gabi) failures.

I, mindful that I had to work in the morning, though not too, too early, resisted another drink and propped myself up on a stool. There was another of the doable with a few drinks in you girls dancing on the stage. Exchanging looks we teased back and forth until I had her come over for a chat. The hell with it, I suggested the room thing and was promptly rebuffed. Huh? Is this supposed to happen at a flat rate? I persist, rebuffed again, and finally stuff the one remaining dollar I have down her bra. This has the desired effect and she agrees, if, I felt, a little reluctantly, to go to the room. This time I was under no illusions. This would not be a great session. I told the girl plainly that I was not maybe up for much but wanted a bit of slap and tickle. My English slang lost on her, she gets down to it and promptly stalls for time. After five minutes she suggests blassen, applies condom and goes to work. I just lay back and let her do her thing. It was not a great bj by any means but then it was not bad, I am afraid it was rather a lot of work for her but with judicious use of her hand as well hand I did manage a nice finish, actually under the manipulation of her palm, into the condom which she did not seem to want to take off even for a wank. But by this time I was not at all picky and did not want to suggest sweetening the pot with a tenner or even a fiver.-for a covered hand job?

All spent, I dressed, wen to the bar, double kissed all the girls, bis nächtes mal, and I am off into the night, short walk home and to bed on an ever so slightly spinning mattress. All in all the King George was a success, I had a fun, if not terribly sexually satisfying time, though for the price, the party atmosphere and the very good session with Queen Patronella, the money was well spent I felt.

A few final closing words if I may, observations and maybe a few words of advise. First is the question of extras at the King George. It seems that the basic response to questions concerning extras was, there are no extras. The girls try to earn extra money with the piccolos, the King George dollars and frankly asking you for a fiver. At least three girls asked me for €5, one for pizza, one for smokes and one just for the €5. As with the piccolo requests, these requests, while annoying, were easily refused (by me and Charlie at least) and the refusal seemed to have no real repercussions with regard to the way the girls treated us. But, as hopefully Charlie will tell us, the no extra policy, if indeed it is a policy and not just the girls do not like doing them, is not bullet proof. Be warned though that unless you are experienced at negotiating playfully, this is an area where a monger could easily come to grief, be branded as a newbie and perhaps even fleeced.Proceed with caution here.

If at all possible I suggest not visiting the King without a good wingman. This is a bar, there is no retreating to the confines of the sauna or a comfortable quiet downstairs area as at Artemis. Sitting alone you are either a target or a sad sack in the girls’ eyes. Sitting with a wingman you are a curiosity and perhaps even a challenge. In fact, I will assert, that sitting with another man, in conversation, perhaps business, you become actually attractive to the girls. The feminine likes to be, sometimes demands to be, the center of masculine attention. Two guys sitting together, having something to say to one another, becomes an affront to the girls’ deeper conviction that she is the only thing worthy of your attention, not these guys and their conversation. Thus, the girls start to try harder and play closer to their “A” game. This is a good thing in monger land. But take a gent with you, again if possible, who is confident enough to also be left alone at a moment’s notice. Tow guys clinging is…well…frankly a bit “gay”. Charlie, I have to say, is an excellent wingman and I would happily monger with him in any situation knowing that he has my back and could just as easily fly off solo if the situation warranted it. Thanks Charlie for the good work. It was an honor to fly together.

As the King is a flat rate the theoretical way in which the place works is that you can have sex with whom you want and as much as you like. Experience supports this yet I have the feeling that it is not always the case. My English speaking friend was at the King as a non German speaking monger flying solo. I saw him swoop without hesitation and walk off with one of the standard girls. But later, just as I was leaving I could see that he dearly wanted a session with Pertonella who was on the stage dancing. And he was rebuffed it seems. Drunkenly, and hoping my earlier massage skills might buy me some cred, I suggested to Patronella that he was a good customer. But I fear it may not have ben enough as she did appear pretty disdainful, like she was not going to budge. Had he a wingman, and not some drunken, end of the night well wisher, I am sure there could have been a way. As it is, and I hope I am wrong, Patronella in her position of Queen of the King was not going give it up for him. Maybe he will sign in here upon reading and prove me wrong. I hope so.

Finally, again, the King dollars. It may offend you, it is annoying, but just buy a few and give them out. It is part of the game, it is some fun, it ain’t expensive. These girls can not earn much and this may just boost their income enough to actually show you a good time, but I doubt it.

The final word? Thumbs up for the King. I am not sure I would return all that soon, or often, but for a night of a certain type of sleazy fun the King George earns high marks. Don’t go there expecting great sex, maybe not even good sex. But for €100 you can get some cheap sex and a light frivolity that you don not generally find at a big full on place like Artemis. The King George girls are not motivated in the same way as the Artemis beauties but they can be, it seems, coaxed into a decent session from time to time.

Thanks as always for reading.

AM

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]Dear lovers of the pink box, here I am on the road again. I will visit Berlin soon, and as it has happened in the past I will write reports of my hunting season!

This time, I would like to taste something different. I would like to have a session or two with thai or indonesian girls (NO TS, SHEMALES ETC. I ONLY LIKE 100% GIRLS!). There are some posts on the Berlin thread referring to thai massages, maybe ending with HJ or BJ, but I am looking for a regular brothel with oriental pussies to get fucked. Any advice on this?

Also, I would like to insert my dear friend in some fresh, slim ebony flesh. What places would you suggest?

I plan to visit Fredenhaus, Rose16 (last time it was closed, damn!), Liberty and perhaps some places you might suggest me, and I will afterwards give you details on my visit.

As always, thank you for your much appreciated help, which I try to pay back with my future posts.

Kasper[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I do not know of a bordello that specializes in oriental or black women. I know VB has a thread dedicated to them but it is difficult get round the jungend Schutz. I can tell you that do so is possible
.
Have a look at all the major bordellos here in Berlin and you will see which ones I prefer and why. Each of these places has at least a couple of these ladies on staff. I might also point to the fact that "oriental" can refer to any lady from Turkey eastward. If you look for Asians, say Asian as these are women from Thailand etc.

Good luck and happy day.

Mis-posted on the Artemis thread and reproduced here with apologies:

Hi,

I paid a visit to King George Flat-Rate Club last night with Angus Magee.

It is a very small club with a bar area and a small lounge behind, incorporating a pole-dancing stage - all a little bit 'worn' but comfortable enough. To the rear is a corridor leading to the 'Zimmers' each of which is relatively sparsely decorated and furnished, but clean and with a shower in the room.

99E was the entry fee - all drinks included. I must have had 6 or 8 vodkas during our 3 hour stay. Champagne is extra, but standard alcoholic drinks are included. You get a few 'pole-dance dollars' with your entry to slip inside the dancers bra or panties and can refill at the rate of one 'dollar' for one euro.

There were 7 or 8 girls in attendance, ranging from one or two who one could categorize as pretty, a mid-section of 4 or 5 'do-able', and one piglet. All of them were Romanian.

There was some pressure to fork out for 'Piccolos' at the usual exorbitant rate and a constant stream of entreaties for 'dollars'. This is not a proper mongering parlour - this is a tourist trap. It's not an aggressive scene, and they do want you to have a good time, but if you are a mug then you will get taken for as much as the girls can squeeze from you. However, Angus and I are pretty experienced in such matters and we quickly and firmly established our authority, whereupon we were able to enjoy a pretty fun evening.

The girls are very much amateurs. By this I don't mean that they are 'hobbyficks'. They are young and inexperienced working girls who don't really know their trade yet. They come across all 'vamp' in the lounge, but in the room, whilst willing, they show their inexperience. This was quite refreshing in a way after several weeks of almost continual attendance at Artemis.

I had the one session only with a dumpy little thing called Anka - a blond with decent tits but a bit of a tummy. What she did have was an endearing personality and a cheeky attitude that emerged as the evening progressed and manifested itself most clearly in the room when she fell off the bed from hysterical laughter as my intended CoB finish (30E extra) actually ended in my own face. She was so excited and happy at this extraordinary and new(to her) outcome that she rushed to tell all her friends (having had the decency to procure first my permission). I thought it was mildly amusing (it wasn't the first time I'd commited a 'Selbstbesamung'), but her delight and amusement rendered it a charming conclusion to a fun little session.

It felt comfortable to have Angus as company at KG and the fact that there were 2 of us made it easier to make it clear to the girls that we are not 'newbies' to the P4P scene who can be mucked about. This made it much easier to create an atmosphere whereby we were 'in charge' and could thus have a bit of fun with these 'silly litte girls'. As a consequence, it turned out to be a good evening.

I happened to go back to Artemis afterwards (I had popped in earlier during the day). The contrast upon entering the lounge at Artemis couldn't have been more stark. The girls there are so confident and professional, whereas KG had felt much more 'amateur hour'.

I enjoyed our evening at KG, as much as a distraction from the serious business of mongering as anything else, but I'd have no reason to go again. The looks and service from the girls just doesn't warrant a return (btw - there are pretty much no 'extras' available - CiM, CoF and anal are all 'off the menu'), and even at the 'all-inclusive' price of 99E for all you can fuck, I'd not be tempted to have another visit unless the quality of ladies took a quantum leap forward.

Recommended, but only if you know your way around the P4P world. If you are new to the game, go to a bordelle or an FKK first and find out how things are done properly, then you can pop into KG and enjoy a light-hearted evening's entertainment

Charlie

Hello, Kasper 81.

I've not tried this agency or any other in Berlin.

But I saw it when I started reserching my trip this weekend.

They seem to be ebony only, see link.

[url]http://ebonypearls. De/pearls.html[/url]

Kristoffer

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Hi

I recently reported on a new firm escort-sex24 and their girl Natalie and subsequently Spec20 wrote a positive report on her stable-mate Paris.

Today I also had an outing myself with Paris and I can wholeheartedly endorse Spec's positive recommendation

[url]http://www.escort-sex24.de/paris[/url]

She is prettier in reality than in her webpics - always a bonus! She used to be a model until struck by a minor pigmentation malady, and she has a georgeous firm figure with long legs, a flat tummy, nice boobs (man-made) and a very pretty face that really isn't shown to best effect on the website

We chatted a while before and after - she is an intelligent and thoughtful girl and pleasant and relaxed company.

She kisses nicely, her BJ is competent without being exceptional, and she is a nice tight fuck.

Very good value for 100E. I'm not sure whether I'd bother to do her again given the wonderful range of similar opportunities afforded by this great city, but I wouldn't hesitate to commend her to anyone looking for an attractive success-guaranteed session with a hot chick.

I like this agency a lot - they deliver what they promise. She confirmed that they run a genuine 24 hour service which is another plus point. I see that they have added a 3rd girl (Roxanna) - I think I know what I'll be having for breakfast tomorrow!

Charlie[/QUOTE]Thank you for this information!

However, last time in Berlin, I stayed in hotel at Bülowstr. And they did not(!) allowed me to take girl to my room(SW). I like some tips for girlfriendly hotels in Berlin, Schöneberg/Kudam-area. (Not to expensive, max 100e/day or so). Or other tips, maybe the problem is how I handle the staff. But I have no problems in Prague or Budapest.

E65

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]KG,Website:[url]http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/[/url]

The King George has been on my list of clubs to visit for some time. I have never been to a flat rate club before and indeed the very idea does not sit with me comfortably. Flat rate clubs have sprung up relatively recently as an off shot of the Partytreff scene. While I have also never been to a Partytreff, my good friend Iseeu has told me very accurately what they are about and how they work. While Partytreff seems to be about inexpensive sex, it is also about the party, a swinger atmosphere. At least this is how I understand it.

Thanks as always for reading.

AM[/QUOTE]Great report!

KG is a special place and the expirience is good if you know whats waiting. This report is truly a good guide of what a monger has to expekt from KG. I wish I could have read this before my first(and only) visit to this place.

E65

Thanks for great reporting on the King George! I will visit berlin mid september and might pay this palce a visit. Although you Angus Magee and Charlie 123 were pretty negative (3/10 maybe?) about the place, you described it so well, in great detail that I think I will visit as I think I will enjoy it: I like having a few drinks in seedy strip bars, watching girls, flirting with them, tipping them, drinking some more and then bang them....100euros + 20euros for some dollartipping seems like a good deal if compared to the alternative: expensive cocktailbars or stripclubs or Artemis where quality of fucking is better but where drinks are very expensive and the atmosphere is less seedy. As I will be 5-8 drinks drunk when banging the girls and not be top-performing the quality of girls is not SUPERimportant! :-)

Do you guys agree that Ling George is the way to go? is there any other place I should look into? I have searched for strip bars but find no good ones. thanks.

I have one fetish: Porn star type girls with big fake boobs: Does anyone have a suggestion for finding a girl with really firm fake boobs? Porn star type girl with many of these: tanned, overdimensioned tits, fake nails, lotsa make-up, skimpy clothes, high heels. thanks!

Misposted on the Artemis thread a couple of days ago and re-posted here with appropriate apologies.

Hi

Paid a visit to King George Flat-Rate Club last night with Angus Magee.

It is a very small club with a bar area and a small lounge behind, incorporating a pole-dancing stage - all a little bit 'worn' but comfortable enough. To the rear is a corridor leading to the 'Zimmers' each of which is relatively sparsely decorated and furnished, but clean and with a shower in the room.

99E was the entry fee - all drinks included. I must have had 6 or 8 vodkas during our 3 hour stay. Champagne is extra, but standard alcoholic drinks are included. You get a few 'pole-dance dollars' with your entry to slip inside the dancers bra or panties and can refill at the rate of one 'dollar' for one euro.

There were 7 or 8 girls in attendance, ranging from one or two who one could categorize as pretty, a mid-section of 4 or 5 'do-able', and one piglet. All of them were Romanian.

There was some pressure to fork out for 'Piccolos' at the usual exorbitant rate and a constant stream of entreaties for 'dollars'. This is not a proper mongering parlour - this is a tourist trap. It's not an aggressive scene, and they do want you to have a good time, but if you are a mug then you will get taken for as much as the girls can squeeze from you. However, Angus and I are pretty experienced in such matters and we quickly and firmly established our authority, whereupon we were able to enjoy a pretty fun evening.

The girls are very much amateurs. By this I don't mean that they are 'hobbyficks'. They are young and inexperienced working girls who don't really know their trade yet. They come across all 'vamp' in the lounge, but in the room, whilst willing, they show their inexperience. This was quite refreshing in a way after several weeks of almost continual attendance at Artemis.

I had the one session only with a dumpy little thing called Anka - a blond with decent tits but a bit of a tummy. What she did have was an endearing personality and a cheeky attitude that emerged as the evening progressed and manifested itself most clearly in the room when she fell off the bed from hysterical laughter as my intended CoB finish (30E extra) actually ended in my own face. She was so excited and happy at this extraordinary and new(to her) outcome that she rushed to tell all her friends (having had the decency to procure first my permission). I thought it was mildly amusing (it wasn't the first time I'd commited a 'Selbstbesamung'), but her delight and amusement rendered it a charming conclusion to a fun little session.

It felt comfortable to have Angus as company at KG and the fact that there were 2 of us made it easier to make it clear to the girls that we are not 'newbies' to the P4P scene who can be mucked about. This made it much easier to create an atmosphere whereby we were 'in charge' and could thus have a bit of fun with these 'silly litte girls'. As a consequence, it turned out to be a good evening.

I happened to go back to Artemis afterwards (I had popped in earlier during the day). The contrast upon entering the lounge at Artemis couldn't have been more stark. The girls there are so confident and professional, whereas KG had felt much more 'amateur hour'.

I enjoyed our evening at KG, as much as a distraction from the serious business of mongering as anything else, but I'd have no reason to go again. The looks and service from the girls just doesn't warrant a return (btw - there are pretty much no 'extras' available - CiM, CoF and anal are all 'off the menu'), and even at the 'all-inclusive' price of 99E for all you can fuck, I'd not be tempted to have another visit unless the quality of ladies took a quantum leap forward.

Recommended, but only if you know your way around the P4P world. If you are new to the game, go to a bordelle or an FKK first and find out how things are done properly, then you can pop into KG and enjoy a light-hearted evening's entertainment

Charlie

[QUOTE=Wiild]
Does anyone have a suggestion for finding a girl with really firm fake boobs? Porn star type girl with many of these: tanned, overdimensioned tits, fake nails, lotsa make-up, skimpy clothes, high heels. thanks![/QUOTE]
Sounds like your average nightly line-up of SWs on Oranienburger Strasse.

Be warned though: many have tried, few have been satisfied...

[QUOTE=Wiild]Do you guys agree that [K]ing George is the way to go? is there any other place I should look into? I have searched for strip bars but find no good ones. thanks.[/QUOTE]


I think I said pretty much all in my rather extensive report. I am surprised that you read it as my being negative about the place. It is rather a fun spot, just know that it not top tier and you do have to be on your toes. If you are a reasonably experienced monger (as I believe from your recent posts your are-Thailand, Columbia, Brazil Philippines-pretty good resume), stay on your toes and do not expect to meet Claudia Schiffer in the KG-and you like to have a drink or two, you should have a good time.

As for other places-strip bars (table dance) are generally a waste of time in Berlin. La Folie can be good as I think I mentioned. There are a handful of other places I am not too familiar with. Generally I find the whole piccolo thing annoying and it is a mainstay of the bar experience. But if you want to break trail and report, I am sure many gents here would read & appreciate. I know I would.

Have a look at my sort of out of date Berlin ISG guide. It does have a number of suggestions and I seem to remember some bar names and addresses. Under miscellaneous I think.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Gergiev]Sounds like your average nightly line-up of SWs on Oranienburger Strasse.

Be warned though: many have tried, few have been satisfied...[/QUOTE]

Interesting! similar to those window girls in Hamburgs Reeperbahn!?

I never really understood why pretty attractive girls invest $$ in silicone, nails, cloths etc to scam people on the street, isn't it cold, unpleasant and dangerous for them? better to become escort or work at artemis?

I actually get excited by just looking and takling to these girls before going to a more trustworthy place to fuck. Don't worry about me I keep my wallet at a safe place! :-) at what time should one go, when it's dark? Is it around the S-station called Oranienburger Strasse, 500m from Hackescher Markt?

Thanks AM, yeah negative have might been the wrong word. What I meant to say is that even you will not go back (Artemis is better quality) you described the place so good that I understood from your words that it might just be the kind of place that I like. som other posters would simply say "worse than artemis", which would not have helped me. and yeah, I have proven to survive in even the worst ripoff piccolobars without loosing too much $$. :-) I sometimes like it to be slightly seedy! :-)


I think I will check out 1-3 of these:

Mon Rouge Leibnizstraße 57 [url]http://www.monrouge.de[/url]
kamilla Dee Blissestraße 33 [url]www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm[/url]
New King George Grunewaldstraße 23 [url]www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de[/url]

maybe even check out the Orangenstrasse rip off scene just to look and if I hear about a mega busty silicone escort girl I might even do that the morning/day after.

[QUOTE=Wiild]I have one fetish: Porn star type girls with big fake boobs: Does anyone have a suggestion for finding a girl with really firm fake boobs? Porn star type girl with many of these: tanned, overdimensioned tits, fake nails, lotsa make-up, skimpy clothes, high heels. thanks![/QUOTE]

I have not a lot of suggestions as I do not fancy this type myself. But I can say Jenna at Artemis has huge silicon knockers and is a sweetie to boot. Her make up thing is under control but on the high side shall we say.

You might also check out Liberty as there are a couple of girls there who would fit your profile I think. Diana is the only one I can put a name to though. I have not personally been with her but she gets good press from the Germans. Ukrainian I think. But as i go to post a link it seems she is no longer on the HP. Schade-these girls do come and go with alarming frequency.

You might also have a look here.

[url]http://www.ginas-busenstars.de/haupt.htm[/url]

Not sure about the silicon but this bordello seems to specialize in large breasted women.

And stay away from the street trade no matter how tempting they look. The are almost always a disappointment and specialize in giveing as little service for as much cash as possible.

AM

[QUOTE=Wiild]I have one fetish: Porn star type girls with big fake boobs: Does anyone have a suggestion for finding a girl with really firm fake boobs? Porn star type girl with many of these: tanned, overdimensioned tits, fake nails, lotsa make-up, skimpy clothes, high heels. thanks![/QUOTE]Well, this is something I am really into myself. My heaven from this point of view is Amsterdam (beautiful tanned blondes, huge silicon tits, 50€ suck and fuck for 20 minutes).

Berlin. Hmmm, not the right place I guess.

A friend of mine visited a busty blonde working on the street fitting your identikit. It was a ripoff, spent about 100 € for hand job and blow job in the bushes. Terrible! I would never try these girls in Berlin. But yes, these chicks are hot as hell. Maybe it is a good option to "charge up" with them, and then download in cheaper pussies.

In my next visit to Berlin I will visit, among the others, MONROUGE. Been there once, paid 70€ for 30min suck and fuck. It was a nice session with a beautiful brunette from Bulgaria (can't see her now on the website). Sweet, no rush, definitely to repeat!

I heard that if you go there in weekdays and not in the evening, it is possible to have a 1 hour session with 2 pops for 100€. Do you know whether it is true? I would like to taste Valencia or Emily. Any experience with these girls?

Have a nice day all you fellow lovers of the pink box!

Thanks, Liberty is now on my list, good to have a daytime place in the city centre: breakfast, Liberty, lunch? Busenstars current line up seemed....uninspiring.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]You might also check out Liberty as there are a couple of girls there who would fit your profile I think. Diana is the only one I can put a name to though. I have not personally been with her but she gets good press from the Germans. Ukrainian I think. But as i go to post a link it seems she is no longer on the HP. Schade-these girls do come and go with alarming frequency.[/QUOTE]Could be you mean this Diana?

[url]http://www.top-prestige.de/diana.htm[/url]

who also appears - more expensively - as Anastasia here:

[url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/[/url]

Note the different times.

She's on my radar too. Not been with her, and for Wiild, one cannot be sure from the pictures how firm those silis are, but, yes, great reports, and, yes, very much PSE by all accounts. Do us all a favour and try her out!

[QUOTE=Toscana]Could be you mean this Diana?

[url]http://www.top-prestige.de/diana.htm[/url]

who also appears - more expensively - as Anastasia here:

[url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/[/url]

Note the different times.

She's on my radar too. Not been with her, and for Wiild, one cannot be sure from the pictures how firm those silis are, but, yes, great reports, and, yes, very much PSE by all accounts. Do us all a favour and try her out![/QUOTE]

While I am not 100% sure (remember I have not seen her) I do think that is her. She had a number of very good reviews on VB (German forum) and a couple of not so good ones saying that she was mechanical. But then I personally wonder if even the best performer can have a few days of down service or meet a punter who just does not appeal and she has to go through the motions.

Of course if it is me who gets the mechanical session I am not happy. But I always understand that chemistry plays a large part in commercial sex. Sometimes she is just not that into you. Who can really blame a girl for that?

AM

[QUOTE=Wiild]
I never really understood why pretty attractive girls invest $$ in silicone, nails, cloths etc to scam people on the street, isn't it cold, unpleasant and dangerous for them? better to become escort or work at artemis?

I actually get excited by just looking and takling to these girls before going to a more trustworthy place to fuck. Don't worry about me I keep my wallet at a safe place! :-) at what time should one go, when it's dark? Is it around the S-station called Oranienburger Strasse, 500m from Hackescher Markt?[/QUOTE]
Hard to say but some girls do actually enjoy the buzz (and occasional danger) of the whole street thing.

When it gets dark, you could exit the U-bahn at Oranienburger Tor and walk down towards Hackescher Markt.

After a short stroll you'll see the girls on the street.

The park with the bushes [b]Kasper[/b] referred to is on the right and there are also girls on the streets off to the left.

If you walk up and down a few times you'll soon get your bearings.


Incidentally, if you're considering going to MonRouge, I would have thought Maya there might fit your requests.

Not sure about the silicone but she definitely looks the part and is well received in these pages.

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/maya_neu.html[/url]

Just posted on Angus' blog is the walk from Blissestr. UBahn to KD bordello in Berlin. Please have a look at the video imbed with commentary. It was a beautiful morning in Berlin and I shot early. Nice lighting and less people. This did not stop an old and slightly crazed German gentleman from giving Angus an earful as he stepped away from KD's front door after finishing the first take (it took two this time). All I understood about the tirade was "Hure" or who*es...
So I guess this guy knew where I was. I kind of wish I had the tirade on video.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=317[/url]

Enjoy the video

AM

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]I heard that if you go there in weekdays and not in the evening, it is possible to have a 1 hour session with 2 pops for 100€. Do you know whether it is true? I would like to taste Valencia or Emily. Any experience with these girls?![/QUOTE]

It used to be true but I am not sure if they still offer the daytime (book or arrive for a session no later than 16:00) special. I used to see one girl on a regular basis this way. Also I am not sure of the two pops in an hour as I am usually a one pop/hr monger. In any case they did not advertise the special, you had to know about it and ask for it.

The drawback is that the daytime line up is not as big as the night time. They have a couple (maybe 3-4) of regular daytime girls and that is it. So if the girl you hunger for is a night girl, no luck.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just posted on Angus' blog is the walk from Blissestr. UBahn to KD bordello in Berlin. Please have a look at the video imbed with commentary. It was a beautiful morning in Berlin and I shot early. Nice lighting and less people. This did not stop an old and slightly crazed German gentleman from giving Angus an earful as he stepped away from KD's front door after finishing the first take (it took two this time). All I understood about the tirade was "Hure" or who*es...
So I guess this guy knew where I was. I kind of wish I had the tirade on video.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=317[/url]

Enjoy the video

AM[/QUOTE]


Dear Angus,

interesting walk through..!! I am particulary interested in an info that you included as a comment in your walk to Artemis, commenting on the construction site before the entrance. Two questions:

1) How old is that video of yours?

2) Is there any news about the rumors concerning a Laufhaus on that location?

A Laufhaus in the style of Western German Eros Centers would be terriffic in Berlin. I still have hopes they gonna open that one on Potsdamer Strasse/Kurfuerstenstrasse...

Thanks and best regards,
The AF

Dear friends,

I would like to share with you an idea that grew in my mind lately, about flat rate brothels.

I believe the concept is very nice, yet not exploited at its best. I only visited Caligula (see earlier report), and the problem is that I got bored pretty soon. I love sex, but I am a normal person with many interests (being pussy only one of them), and I find it somehow a waste of time to spend many many hours in a brothel, considering the fact that if you go by yourself you have very little to do between sessions (being a non-German, I always go as a solo-monger in Berlin...).

The idea we should circulate is the one already existing for other clubs or all-inclusive resorts: a nice plastic BRACELET allowing you to get in&out of the venue as many times as you wish, in a given day (those bracelets that you can only get rid of by ripping them, so you cannot pass them to friends). It would be like a dream come true having the chance, for let’s say 100€, to get up in the morning, spend a couple of hours in the brothel and taste a couple of girls, then get out, do your stuff and maybe have lunch, get back and sample other two girls, then out and get back after dinner to complete your days with a couple of evening pussies... This would really allow people like me to fuck “as much as we like” avoiding at once the problem of “between sessions boredom”. Considering that many mongers are tourists in Berlin, this would allow them to have a day full of pussy, without wasting the day itself from the point of view of traditional tourism!

And of course, the bracelet doesn’t have to have written BROTHEL in large characters on it... it could be a bracelet with an anonymous sign or code that only doormen at the club recognise...

I would like to know what you think about this (especially I would like to hear from Angus, who is becoming my hero, after all his posts!!), and if we have any hope that some clubs might adopt this new policy...

Lastly, after reading all posts here and surfing extensively the web, I decided my schedule for the three days in Berlin (mid September):

Day one:

Fredenhaus (Jasmin, tried already, [url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/jasmin.html[/url]) in the morning
Monrouge (possibly Maya, Valencia or Emily) in the evening

Day two:

MILF from Rose16 (if nice milfs available) otherwise Liberty in the morning
Fredenhaus (Angel, [url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/angel.html[/url]) in the afternoon

Day three:

Either Europa Salon (Christina, [url]http://www.europasalon.de/christina.html[/url]) in the morning and LaDolceVita (julia, [url]http://www.pinup-modelle.de/julia.html[/url]) in the afternoon or viceversa, depending on when the girls work

Three days of great sex for around 250€ seems a perfect deal. Please, in case you know by experience that any of these brothels are seedy or “risky” let me know... I might be a monger but I am still very concerned about health related issues, and want to play it safe as much as I can.

Thank you for reading this long post, I am curious to receive feedbacks and, of course, I will provide details about my trip to Berlin as soon as I get back home, next month.

Kasper

I don't remember who looked for big breasted ladies in Berlin ( at that moment, Fiona and Margo at KD were mentioned).

Apparently, there is a new lady at KD who has big breast :
[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/elena-e.htm[/url].

[QUOTE=The AF]Dear Angus,

interesting walk through..!! I am particulary interested in an info that you included as a comment in your walk to Artemis, commenting on the construction site before the entrance. Two questions:

1) How old is that video of yours?

2) Is there any news about the rumors concerning a Laufhaus on that location?

A Laufhaus in the style of Western German Eros Centers would be terriffic in Berlin. I still have hopes they gonna open that one on Potsdamer Strasse/Kurfuerstenstrasse...

Thanks and best regards,
The AF[/QUOTE]

Hi The AF

The Walk with Angus video to Artemis was shot the day before I posted it so August 11. But the tire store has been gone for some months.It has just been an empty lot used for parking the past two or three months. The Laufhaus is but a rumor. As far as I know there is to be an out door facility (swim pool, deck, etc.) there-an hopefully a large sound barrier.

I have been trying to set up an interview with Artemis management in my new role of Berlin's premier sex journalist to find out such things. So far they are proving more difficult to woo than I imagined. But I keep trying. Maybe as my blog keeps getting more and more traffic they will be more forth coming.

I have also heard about the Potsdamerstr.Laufhaus on the site of the LSD sex shop & kino. It has been on the table for ages but there is apparently strenuous neighborhood objection and that is hard to get past. I am doubtful one will be built there.

AM

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]I don't remember who looked for big breasted ladies in Berlin ( at that moment, Fiona and Margo at KD were mentioned).

Apparently, there is a new lady at KD who has big breast :
[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/elena-e.htm[/url].[/QUOTE]

All I can sa is WOW. Those are some knockers! There was a girl a couple of years back at Tomsen whose name escapes me but who had a similar set. While I m not really a huge breast fan I did book a session with this girl as she was also very pretty. The real disappointment came when she told me that while she like her breasts admired, it was basically look but do not touch as they were so sensitive as to hurt when touched. At least this was her story. Being in the same room with such knockers and not being able to kiss and caresse is sheer torture. Hopefully this girl has no such affliction.

AM

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]Dear friends,

I would like to share with you an idea that grew in my mind lately, about flat rate brothels.

I would like to know what you think about this (especially I would like to hear from Angus, who is becoming my hero, after all his posts!!), and if we have any hope that some clubs might adopt this new policy...[/QUOTE]

Well it isa good idea but the only club to which it would really be applicable is Caligula which opens at 11:00 til 05:00 the next day. KG is only open at 16:00 as are most clubs, or later.

I am not sure Caligula would be interested as I think their business model is more the squeeze every dollar you can from us horny mongers and do not give em a breaK.Even their €30 day time rate is open to their own interpretation as I hear.

And Artemis already has this all day policy in place.They even cut off the band and issue you a new one upon presentation of tout ID.How handi is that.

AM

thanks on the tips on silicone babes, both maya and diana/anastacia seem to be my type! :-) and i will take a peep at silicon strasse. i do enjoy the thrill, seedyness and slight danger of those situations although i think that after 10-30 minutes i will have enough....and no, during those minutes i am not likelly to have spent any money, i will keep my wallet at a very safe place. :-)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee].They even cut off the band and issue you a new one upon presentation of tout ID.How handi is that.

AM[/QUOTE]

Not sure what the "tout" means. I write sometimes and am a little bit tired, last night was an example.

Again, with Artemis you can sign out at the desk, they take your wrist band an issue a new one upon reentry in the same day. To expect Caligula to do this, with its' rather sleazy demeanor, might be a bit of a stretch. Even if they did take your wrist band and sign you out, dollars to donuts they would not remember you when you tried to reenter.

That and I am not sure if such clubs as Caligula are really ready to employ such Chamber of Commerce tourist friendly business models. They strike me as more snatch and grab establishments.

But as I say, I fully support the concept and will run it by and club owners I happen to speak with. The owner, or at least manager, at KG I think would be open to at least hearing it. But then, as mentioned, they are only open from16:00 onwards.

AM

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]

[B]3) Bel Ami[/B]
I remembered bad posts about Bel Ami, may be this one (only ?)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=908773&postcount=1688[/url][/QUOTE]

BelAmi seems to have fallen victim to the economic crisis. Whereas beforehand it was a whole house (like Villa Rascona still is -- see below), they have closed up shop and moved to Charlottenberg where they occupy a much smaller premise that is like a gentlemen's cigar club populated by beautiful willing creatures.

At the old location an hour at BelAmi would have run you 450eur including a bottle of champagne. That was the minimum outlay. I guess that's why it got bad reviews here, as anybody on ISG reviewing a girl for over 200eur/hour is usually accused of overpaying. In the new location the price is 160€/hour "but girls like to have champagne too". So we'll call it 360eur/hour as the half bottle of champagne runs 90eur (which does not close the deal -- I found out the hard way, but did not regret the expenditure one bit because I've often spent more to spend an equal amount of time in a bar or club with much less charming company) but a full bottle runs 200eur or more. In summary, if you walk in here, count on walking out rock hard and alone, or with a wallet 400eur or more lighter. But it's quite a party and the clientele is very friendly and upscale.

So is it worth it? If you like highly motivated beautiful girls it is worth every penny. Of course there are no guarantees, but those who are reading this and prefer that sort of arrangement probably have a good idea of what to expect and will most likely appreciate this info. Quality wise all the girls have beautiful faces and apart from that there is quite a bit of variety.

In response to Bobo's earlier question about where to get an upscale girl when KD fails, Villa Rascona is a good substitute, if a little more expensive. There is is 30eur to go in (includes one drink) plus 160Eur the half hour. 300eur gets you an hour plus a bottle of champagne. The girls are very nice, but on average much older and one notch down looks wise when compared to BelAmi.

There is one more top place near tiergarten that a taxi driver told me about. If I recall correctly the price was somewhat less than Villa Rascona but more than KD, but I don't remember the name.

Chez Nina? Nein!! Read my old report. The location is top class, but you pay top price for doing it in an ultra-luxurious room with a girl who would fall below average in Liberty!

While i'm on the topic of high end places in Berlin, after quite a bit more research I can add to my previous posts and some unanswered questions that frequently come up.

- Where to meet Pros in Bars:
Newton Bar (everybody says they are there, but they are over 30 and I never saw any that i would have tried for)
Harry's New York Bar (Hotel Esplanade - really dress up)
First Club (hard to get in - dress up)

There are other places but these are the names that come up most often. In the bars you are looking at 30-40yo or more. In First Club it is 20-30yo from all the top clubs and strip bars who are off work after 2 or 3AM and want to make a killing in one night. So they say we can go for 700eur. And when you ask how long the answer is most likely, "I don't know"? Because the idea is to get 700eur. If you like that idea that best idea is to go Friday and arrange to meet for dinner saturday and then keep her all night. That plan works.

Otherwise I think a lot of off duty sex workers go to KitKat Club for the really late after party. They are definitely there and most aren't working there. Two girls came up to me once in Kit kat at about 6AM and said, we saw you in Artemis. I said, I haven't been there in over a year, and they said, yeah! It was last year, then when I wanted to talk about it they ran away because they were trying to be incognito. Also you have some of those top heavy silicon babes from oranienbergerstrasse going in there acting equally cold (i.e. giving the cold shoulder to everybody) and I've seen a definite pro from first club in there and a lot of other really hot girls.

- Meeting Black girls: There is one black Pro i met at a few times at an afterwork party and she tells me that a lot of hot girls are in Cafe Pssst, including many beautiful black girls. But you just have to find the right night. since the only night I was ever there was Monday, I guess that is the wrong night!

- Escorts: Look at my previous report on EscortIn and others. But guys who are looking for a beautiful top escort in Berlin aren't going to get it for any cheaper than in Munich, and maybe it will be more. For 700eur you can get a top Czech girl for the whole night and if she takes the bus or train it is probably less than 100eur travel! Look at [url]www.prague-adult-escorts.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Hektor T]There is one more top place near tiergarten that a taxi driver told me about. If I recall correctly the price was somewhat less than Villa Rascona but more than KD, but I don't remember the name.[/QUOTE]

Hi Hektor,

Once again an high quality post. Good to have a high end expert here. Charlie and I crawling around in sleaze pits like the King sure ain't going to get you there.

I wonder if the above mentioned place might be Erotikakademie?

[url]http://www.erotikakademie.eu/index.php?lang=en&PHPSESSID=35d44d48954cefa56e5b0ec0c9bdfff7[/url]

I know they are in Tiergarten and once when I phoned I remember the prices shocked me so they should be then in your area of expertise. I also know that there is a report or two way back in the thread somewhere on their escort services.

Thanks for the report again.

AM

Thanks Hector, for your post.

[QUOTE=Hektor T]
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hi can anyone suggest the best areas to live in Berlin for 4-6 months? Looking to rent an apartment out there. heard Mitte and Charlottenburg are both decent?

Hi All,

I'll be headed to Berlin in a couple days, and I was after some help making a decision.

I've trawled through a lot of the fantastic research available here and done as much 'legwork' as I can. There's a lot of great suggestions on this forum but unfortunately I have limited time (in Berlin) and resources so I can't visit all the recommended people and places. (the reports of distinction thread was particularly useful - it's a frikkin' goldmine).

I'm indecisive at the best of times, and this, my first venture into a 'bordell', is no different.

I'm after a memorable, first experience in Berlin and really can't decide between FKK Artemis, Freudenhaus, Tiffanys and Mon Rouge.

I basically want a good first experience, that avoids girls upselling and clockwatching. I'd also be looking to enjoy two girls at the same time.

So which place do YOU think I should visit? (feel free to suggest others, these were just what my research lead me to believe were my best bets). Where am I most likely to get the above? (also if you have an idea of prices for two girls at the same time that would be most welcome as I've struggled to find these a bit).

Also I've been considering KCs, but would you guys suggest avoiding it as a first-timer?

[QUOTE=Borat69]hi can anyone suggest the best areas to live in Berlin for 4-6 months? Looking to rent an apartment out there. heard Mitte and Charlottenburg are both decent?[/QUOTE]

Ho Borat,

I think it depends on what you look for and your budget. Both areas you mention are nice and on the more pricy side. Wilmersdorf is also nice as is Schöneberg.

Mitte and the slightly further (from the center) Prinzlauerberg have a younger feel to them. Personally I would recommend Schöneberg as it is reasonable and very central and home to a few really nice bordellos.

AM

The second, poorer (in my eyes) bordello in the Liberty empire is due to change ownership, word has it on the German forum. I have always found SP to be a disappointment. I did not have meny sessions there but they were almost always sort of flat for some reason. I guess I find the place sort of dark and it gives me a sort of crowded feel when I go. That and the line up seemed sparse.

I hope who ever takes over spruces the place up a bit. The baronial furniture has to go IMO.


I will post any further news as it happens or as I find out.

AM

[QUOTE=Hotcole]I'll be headed to Berlin in a couple days, and I was after some help making a decision.[/QUOTE]

Nothing is ever simple when you ask Angus ;) But I will try to make it so.

And Jesus H. I should be getting paid for this sometime. Maybe a consultancy service? Angus Magee's Hooker Consultancy Ltd. We decide so you can ride. Something like that but it is getting awfully close to pimp-dom and I am not sure I want to go there.

The four you listed:

Artemis: great selection, comfortable surroundings but can be intimidating if it your first time in a big bordello, even more so if your first time with a hooker. The decision making can be difficult and if you have a hard time with decisions, well...'nuff said.

Freudenhaus: In the sticks sort of. Inexpensive (comparatively) but the girl quality varies as does service. It is also sort a public venue in that you walk up the stairs with possibly other punters. Not so good if you embarrase easily at that sort of thing which many 1st time bordello goers do. But some of the girls here are really down to earth and nice. But as I say, not always first tier.

Tiffanies: Could be a good chice for a first time bordello goer. They even have a first time "love school" though this maybe just a marketing gimmick.I have never been to this bordello but my gut tells me it is a bit of a"factory" and some of the girls can be mechanical. But then this is the same everywhere so maybe it is not valid criticism. Especially as I have not been there. The rates are reasonable as are extras, much more so than other bordellos.

Mon Rouge-Over all a good choice and I can think of no real negatives here. Also Charlie 123 has pretty much reviewed 75% or so of the girls personally over the past year or so. So you do have some good on the ground info to guide you here. But it is not the cheapest place in town, nor the most expensive. Extras are not cheap and should be approached with caution lest your hour at 130 suddenly mushrooms to 190.

KCs? Did you mean KDs? (Kamilla Dees)or maybe KGs(King George). If KD this is, or would be, my over all 1st choice for a 1st time bordello goer. It is expensive on the hour but no extras except anal (€50) and thus you know what you spend and do not get asked for more. The ladies are very professional but do not come across as so. You can have a high chance of a GFE here if you are a considerate and gentle guest who expresses his desires-that is don't make the lady guess what turns you on. Be upfront. Or if you do not really know what turns you on, or are just too damn embarrassed to really say so (as used to be the case with me) be upfront about that. Just be upfront.

King George, well, read my report then you tell me if this is where you wan your first bordello experience to be.

Usually the two girl thing is at twice the basic fee. That is two girls for a half hour at Liberty would be 120/half hour (2 times €60). But if you want them to interact, lesbi stuff, expect a fee on top of this for each girl. Again, at Liberty it would be for the half hour 120 + 25+25 or 170 for a duet with lebi action. If you just want them to work on you with absolutely no interaction it might be with out the extra 25 per. I am not sure on this.

At Artemis the duo thing is even more dear. for the half, 60+60 (the basic girl rate) +50+50(the lesbi stuff) for a total of 220 per half. I could be wrong on this but I think not.

Personally I think the duo thing is overrated unless you do a lot of pre planning and ground work at a place like Artemis and find two girl who are actually sort of into each other and do get off on it. Other wise it often comes across as sort of fake (it is) and disappointing. But then I have done the duo thing more than once and it has lost its' real fascination for me. At one point in my life I was willing to do almost anything to see two hot girls lick each other out. So take that into consideration.

Hope this helps. In the end just have the experience. Don't think too too much about it as this can take away from the immediacy of the moment it happens. Not easy (not thinking) but essential to a good experience IMO.

Oh, and before I forget, I expect a reasonable report for all of this. Nothing fancy but do sign in with your experience and keep the Berlin thread vibrant.

AM

[QUOTE=Hotcole]Hi All,

I'll be headed to Berlin in a couple days, and I was after some help making a decision.[/QUOTE]My first visit to a bordello was to KD. I had for some months been frequently visiting massage salons with only HJ as an option. So it took some time for me to realise that I was interested in more than just a 'happy ending'.

KD was great for a first visit. Relaxed, professionel and as AM puts it - be honest about it if you're nervous. This can only make your session better. I would probably recommend one of Berlins apartment bordellos anytime over Artemis or a flatrate place like KG. But then again - I have yet to visit a place like those.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just posted on Angus' blog is the walk from Blissestr. UBahn to KD bordello in Berlin. Please have a look at the video imbed with commentary.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=317[/url]

Enjoy the video

AM[/QUOTE]Hi Angus,

Thoroughly enjoyed the video. It brings back great memories of my six visits to KD over the past several years. Sadly, the video will have to do it for me this year, as my annual trip to Berlin has been moved to Cologne this year.
Not a bad city, but not Berlin.

Your video reminds me of my usual post-KD ritual. A glass of beer at the Mexican restaurant further down Blissestrasse and a brisk walk down Uhlandstrasse to the Hotel Savoy.

Thanks, again. I really enjoy your work!

Hello all,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I've been to Berlin a few times and always had great experiences at Kamilla Dee. This time around, I've decided to try Artemis (first time at FKK). Can someone please advise how I settle my bill at the end of my stay? Any possibility to use credit card or must I bring a fistful of Euros?

I will be at Artemis this Saturday afternoon (and if all goes well, all day Sunday!) if anyone would care to meet up for a drink.

Cheers!

Hi,

There has been some speculation on these pages about this relatively new bordelle specialising in MILFs and located on Martin Luther Str in Schoeneberg. With a few hours to kill before my appointment with an escort girl I had lined up for early evening, I decided to pop in and check it out.

Having perused their website at length on many occasions, I had come to the conclusion that Rose16 is a resting place for older hookers who can't any more hack it in the competitive Berlin P4P environment and that dirty blowjobs and facials would be available from experienced old pros with pornstar techniques if not visuals.

Actually, it's a pretty ordinary Wohnungspuff that happens to specialise to some extent in older dames. The flat is on the 5th floor (there is a lift) above the sex cinema booths at 16 Martin Luther Str, and is nicely decorated. There were 4 ladies present, the dumpy thing who opened the door, two slim and quite pretty girls in their late 20's and MILF Gitti whom I chose, mainly because she and the dumpy one were the only ones offering 'Blowjob Total'. So, my idea that this was going to be an 'Alles Moglich' establishment was not borne out in practice.

[url]http://www.rose16.de/gitti1.html[/url]

I was offered 20 minutes for 40E or half an hour for 50E - I chose the latter. BBBJCim was included. She was pleasant enough and she had a decent figure with nice big tits, although she is definitely older than her website description and photos might suggest. Her face is a little haggard, but she was friendly and gave good service, so I was happy enough. Her BJ was slow, wet and hands-free - a pleasant change from the frenzied performances that is so often the standard fare at Artemis with 'new' girls. I fucked her in mish for a (very) few minutes whilst she made all the right noises. As a 'quickie', it was fine if unexceptional.

Rose16 suprised me, but only by its ordinariness. I was expecting it to be either a terrific venue for filthy sex with desperate old MILFs, or a dreadful dive whose only redeeming feature lay in the fact that Liberty's is next door to console me when I walked out after 30 seconds. In the end, it is just another small bordelle like many others. The pricing structure is attractive, they appear service-orientated, and for those on a budget it is certainly worthy of consideration. For me though, I'd rather spend a little more and get better-looking girls, so I am unlikely to return.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]Dear friends,

I would like to share with you an idea that grew in my mind lately, about flat rate brothels.

The idea we should circulate is the one already existing for other clubs or all-inclusive resorts: a nice plastic BRACELET allowing you to get in&out of the venue as many times as you wish, in a given day (those bracelets that you can only get rid of by ripping them, so you cannot pass them to friends).[/QUOTE]You can do that at least at KG (maybe also at Caligula but I'm not sure). At least I was told at KG that I can leave and go somewhere else to eat and come back later. They just trust their memory and do not use bracelets (who would like to walk around Berlin with a bracelet saying free entrance to a flatrate brothel, lol)

Hi Fokes,

Newbie here (I hope I'm putting this in the right place, apologies if not)

I'll be making a trip with friends over to Berlin in the next week and would like to know where you would recommend for 3 young lads late teens early 20's new to this party heard good things about Artemis but would it be right for first timers? also it looks a bit pricey.

Thanks in advance

Best regards,

[QUOTE=Medtechexpat]Can someone please advise how I settle my bill at the end of my stay? Any possibility to use credit card or must I bring a fistful of Euros?
[/QUOTE]They have a cash machine at the reception at artemis. I haven't used it myself. I always pay hookers by cash.

Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Hektor,

Once again an high quality post. Good to have a high end expert here. Charlie and I crawling around in sleaze pits like the King sure ain't going to get you there.

I wonder if the above mentioned place might be Erotikakademie?

AM[/QUOTE]

Angus it wasn't Erotikakademie, it was Odette Bordelle or something like that. 180€/hour but from the website I can't see why

I read your blog and the post you referred to. Re: why guys will pay more, I guess it's two reasons:

1. Trying to avoid wasting time
2. The best way to say it is that I was going to write, skip your next 2-3 visits and take all the money and go to one of the places I listed and tell us what you think. But then I didnt because I realized, some people won't feel comfortable in that environment and it will be worth even less to them in that case. Same is true with the girls working there. Some for sure will go for the extra money if they can get it, while working cheap also. But the 9/10 or 10/10 girl can easily find a guy to pay everything and only work a little on the side. I'm sure there are as many reasons as there are people for all of the different tastes. But what never ceases to amaze me is why on forums like this, people are so vocal about why people should never pay more than X !! Especially when they are almost surely not willing to speak up about people paying for any other luxury expenditures

[QUOTE=Medtechexpat] Can someone please advise how I settle my bill at the end of my stay? Any possibility to use credit card or must I bring a fistful of Euros?[/QUOTE]
Hi,

This would be better handled in the Artemis thread but I won't stand on ceremony about it. I do suggest a trip over there for a read by way of preparation and ground work before your visit.

Artemis is a strictly pay as you go experience. That is you pay the desk to enter (€80) then pay the girl when you finish a session (€60/half hr.+any extras) in cash stored in your small cash locker by the front desk. For further details, extra costs etc., research the aforementioned Artemis thread.It is all there.

As for credit-I am sure (well not 100% sure as credit is a luxury denied Angus) the front desk can make a cash advance on credit or something but the charge for the service is likely to be severe. Maybe someone else knows better but again-Artemis thread. There is also some sort of cash point ATM but likewise a big service charge. Much better to bring cash from the place you normally with draw I think. But no, you can not give your card to the girl, unless you really want to be riden. If you know what I mean.

Hi

Today marked the third final chapter in my escort-sex24.de research project, in the person of Roxana.

[url]http://www.escort-sex24.de/roxana[/url]

Both the two previous girls supplied to my room by this well-organised and reliable agency were first-class, but the best was saved to last.

Paris and Natalie are both very pretty, Paris extremely so, whilst Roxanne is plainer. She is quite short, straight dark hair, trim figure, small boobs and a sweet face with a slightly toothy smile. The other two girls are better to look at, Roxana is better to fuck.

It was one of those occasions where we just 'clicked'. She showered, dried herself off and then sat astride me with my cock pressed against her pussy whilst she rocked backwards and forwards whilst we kissed softly.

Briefly, I licked her out for about 15 mins until she reached 'O', then she administered a very pleasant soft BBBJ and then we fucked in various positions. Nothing terribly unusual to report sex-wise, but it was just one of those really terrific sessions when the girl was really into it.

This agency is highly recommended here. Roxana was the perfect GFE, Paris was a superb Optifick and Natalie the prototype PSE. Something for everybody - so long as you choose the girl that suits your mood, you should be very satisfied @ 100 Euros per hour with most 'extras' thrown in.

Of the 3, Roxana is the one that I'll be seeing again

Mission complete,

Cheers

Charlie

I've used the ATM in Artemis a number of times, it is a standard ATM with no additional charges other than charges you may incur using any other ATM in Berlin. I think you can pay the entrance fee with a credit card, I don't think there is an additional surcharge for that either. All payment to the girls is cash only.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]The second, poorer (in my eyes) bordello in the Liberty empire is due to change ownership, word has it on the German forum. I have always found SP to be a disappointment. I did not have meny sessions there but they were almost always sort of flat for some reason. I guess I find the place sort of dark and it gives me a sort of crowded feel when I go. That and the line up seemed sparse.

I hope who ever takes over spruces the place up a bit. The baronial furniture has to go IMO.

I will post any further news as it happens or as I find out.

AM[/QUOTE]Yes this is my understanding. The woman who owns Liberty and SP apparently is "selling" SP -- not as profitable at all. Never been there but I know one of the girls (who has also worked at Liberty) and said it is dreadful and they can have whole evenings without any real business. As the business model is apparently to split the timed rate 50/50 between the girl and the house and the girl keeps all the money from extras, there is not much money to be made. Anyway she told me I would hate SP as much as I love Liberty. Maybe new ownership is exactly what it needs

[QUOTE=Mac75]I've used the ATM in Artemis a number of times, it is a standard ATM with no additional charges other than charges you may incur using any other ATM in Berlin. I think you can pay the entrance fee with a credit card, I don't think there is an additional surcharge for that either. All payment to the girls is cash only.[/QUOTE]


Now do keep in mind that I do not use credit. I think that there was a discusion about this on one of the other threads but when paying credit to enter of course it is as with any other credit transaction, no charge unless you include the over all cost of credit. Don't get me started;)

But is it not true that getting a cash advance from a business on credit (that is you do not buy anything, your entry fee, but they just give you cash and put through a transaction for it) can incur a service fee from them? As high as 10% of the transaction? I could be wrong but I think it is the case.

This would in all honesty be better asked in the General FKK thread as more seasoned FKK visitors who have actual experience would see it.

As for ATMs, I know my bank charges me comparatively exorbitant rates to use machines not belonging to them. But then Angus, with his bank balance hovering at €0.00, is not exactly a valued bank customer. More like they tolerate him and are always trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off and get him to take his non business elsewhere.

Hi Lads,

Just published on AM blog, The Berlin Scene, Berlin bordello overview part one of two, I hope.(that it is only two that is) It may not be new to you seasoned Berlin mongers but Angus' blog is always a good read. If I may say so myself.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=336[/url]

Read, enjoy and if you feel to, comment

AM

And we questioned your ScotTish heritage??!...

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Now do keep in mind that I do not use credit. I think that there was a discusion about this on one of the other threads but when paying credit to enter of course it is as with any other credit transaction, no charge unless you include the over all cost of credit. Don't get me started;)

But is it not true that getting a cash advance from a business on credit (that is you do not buy anything, your entry fee, but they just give you cash and put through a transaction for it) can incur a service fee from them? As high as 10% of the transaction? I could be wrong but I think it is the case.

This would in all honesty be better asked in the General FKK thread as more seasoned FKK visitors who have actual experience would see it.

As for ATMs, I know my bank charges me comparatively exorbitant rates to use machines not belonging to them. But then Angus, with his bank balance hovering at €0.00, is not exactly a valued bank customer. More like they tolerate him and are always trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off and get him to take his non business elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Charlie
Please to the point, are the Busen real or fake?
Bear.sk
[QUOTE=Charlie 123]http://www.rose16.de/gitti1.html
I was offered 20 minutes for 40E or half an hour for 50E - I chose the latter. BBBJCim was included. She was pleasant enough and she had a decent figure with nice big tits ....
Charlie[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk]And we questioned your ScotTish heritage??!...[/QUOTE]


Anyone who questions my Scots heritage is invited to have a look under my kilt ;)

If you dare.

But yes we do know how to squeeze a penny to get a pound. I despise service charges but as mentioned I have never been a preferred bank customer. All that may change once I sell the movie rights to the blog.

[QUOTE=Hektor T]Angus it wasn't Erotikakademie, it was Odette Bordelle or something like that. 180€/hour but from the website I can't see why[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Yes of course. I always seem to forget this place. I can not really understand the price they charge at Odette, not that I have been there. I do know for a fact though that one of their girls used to work for one of the €90 single owner escort agencies. She was a very good session (GFE for me) but I can not quite see her as a €200+ (with extras) hooker. Maybe Odette comes from the Martha Stewart school of marketing muff. Charge $1 for you muffins and you sell one. Charge $2 for the same muffin and you sell a dozen. And maybe the lady I know has just improved her craft to the point where she can pull it off? I do not slag her for this but applaude. Not with my wallet out unfortunately.


[QUOTE=Hektor T]I read your blog and the post you referred to. Re: why guys will pay more, I guess it's two reasons: [/QUOTE]

I am sorry if I give the impression of thinking you a fool to pay more. In actual fact I do not. We all have our reasons for mongering in the places and at the level we monger.I do know this.

By way of explanation though: I am a bit of a proletariat monger. For reasons that I might explain via pm (as I do not want to get too personal here at the moment, that is expose too much personal back ground) I do tend to favor the less expensive (well Artemis too, which over all ain't cheap)) side of the hobby. But you certainly raise some vary valid points and in fact have Angus in a bit of a lather over there high class tarts. You may well convert me if I can raise the dosh...

I also do try, in my blog and here, to let guys know that mongering can be done within reasonable expenditure limits. For me some of the fun is finding the gems, the diamonds in the rough who just need a bit of polish to shine. I do, as some have noted, spend rather a great deal of time, effort and do not forget cash on this hobby.

I will state publicly that I am quite willing for my financial circumstances to rise so that I can more fully appreciate your side of things.

I sincerely do thank you for all your posts and acknowledge your expertise in this market. The Berlin thread is much richer for it.

AM

Where can I find Japanese Girls in Berlin? Most Asian I know is about thai girls.

[QUOTE=Firsttimeraver]Newbie here (I hope I'm putting this in the right place, apologies if not)[/QUOTE]

I am not sure if it the right place. If it is a question specifically about Artemis then probably not. If you posted in the Artemis thread you would likely get opinions other than mine as I seem to be the primary good will ambassador here in the Berlin thread. So you might want to post it there.

My opinion? Three early late teen early twenty lads could have a lot of fun at Artemis but it is not cheap and you do not want to go in underfunded IMO. Many girls there might not want to go with you if you are three drunken, boisterous lads. But if you keep that under control some girls do really go for the more youthful guys. Of course you will still be paying the going rate for their services and do not expect to get a discount just because you are ripped and maybe still have a 6 pack (abdominal muscles) as opposed to the belly many of us older guys carry. Be gentle men and you'll be right.

That is about all I am willing to say as I think the chances of a report from three young lads here in Berlin to get some muff are slim. Read the forum, Artemis thread, Berlin thread and maybe my blog and prove me wrong about that report.

AM

[QUOTE=Ban Ama]Where can I find Japanese Girls in Berlin? Most Asian I know is about thai girls.[/QUOTE]

Japanese girls are sort of the mythical Holy Grail of Asian aficionados. It is never easy as many girls will advertise as such but the chance of them actually being Japanese are slim at best. There used to be a girl both at Liberty and, I believe, at KD advertising as Japanese. But both seem to be absent from the respective websites now. I just checked.

The best I can do is suggest Toni at Liberty. She is not Japanese, not even Asian in fact. But she is a sweetie and has a sort of young Asian girl energy to her, a bit Hentai if you know what I mean.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/toni.html[/url]

She is a real part timer, her age is authentically 19 and she is more delicate than the pics suggest. I had a very nice easy session a couple of months back and would repeat for the hour if funds permitted.

AM

Hi All,

Charlie123 mentioned a Bordello that he went to that catered for MILFs. Is there anywhere that does cater for or have mature women (I am talking 50 plus).. My perception is that most girls (for example in Artemis) are between 18 and 30. Am I right in saying this?

Also are there any clubs that cater for fetishes for fat women?

Regards

Greg

[QUOTE=Bearsk]Charlie,

Please to the point, are the Busen real or fake?

Bear.sk[/QUOTE]Fake

Charlie

[QUOTE=Greg173]Hi All,

Charlie123 mentioned a Bordello that he went to that catered for MILFs. Is there anywhere that does cater for or have mature women (I am talking 50 plus).. My perception is that most girls (for example in Artemis) are between 18 and 30. Am I right in saying this?

Also are there any clubs that cater for fetishes for fat women?

Regards

Greg[/QUOTE]


Hi,

You are right. I would say most are early 20s to around 40.

I am not sure if you will find bordello that caters exclusively to these fetishes or types but you can certainly find these types. With little to no problem. Have a look on the bordello section of Rotlichtadressen (link under) and see what you come up with. I will have a quick look later and see if I can point you somewhere. There is one I know of who is both older (50+) and fat. Molly something. I think she is a Berlin institution and has been around since before the wall went up. If I can unearth the website I will post. If you session wit this one and post a report you will instantly become eligible for the Angus Mongers I Admire title one month ;)

[url]http://www.rotlichtadresse.de/index.php?template=1[/url]

AM

I find Monrouge to be a truly first-class facility and I’ve had the pleasure of attending their premises a couple of dozen time over the last 2 years or so. This forum engenders a lot of enquiries about Monrouge, so I thought that it might be a useful resource to assemble under one posting all the individual reports that I have written in that time:

For the uninitiated, Monrouge is located in Charlottenburg, on the first floor at Leibnitzstrasse 57. Accurate pictures of the girls are posted on their website [url]http://www.monrouge.de/[/url] but information as to prices and ‘extras’ is minimal. The ‘phone service is usually helpful and reliable. They are open late – about 3am or so. The Hausmutti is pleasant and will ask you if you have a particular girl in mind. They have a bar where you can meet the girls over a drink, or she will bring all the available talent to the room for you to choose from, as you prefer. The rooms are generally clean and adequately furnished, and showers, towels and bathrobes are provided. All in all, they make an effort to create a friendly and relaxed atmosphere.

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/jasmin.html[/url]

She is a dark-skinned girl from the Dominican Republic with a full figure (not fat0 and a terrific pair of large natural breasts, an asset that in my book will forgive a multitude of sins. I chose her.

She was friendly from the start and I realised quickly that this was going to be a good outing. The charge was 70 Euro for a half-hour or 130 for 60 mins. The extras were expensive - 20 for FO or 50 for FT. I don't like to haggle on these occasions - a 10% discount in price usually leads to a greater reduction in service in my experience, so I handed over my 120E with a smile.

I took a quick shower, which I reckon to be a vote-winner with most girls, and settled back with Jasmin in the room. She gave me a real nice BBJ, intermingled with occasional passionate kisses. I don't usually like to kiss these girls, especially the ones who do BBJ's, but she was too persuasive to turn down. After about 15 minutes she started to get tired, so I wanked off whilst she cuddled up and rubbed her pussy against me. When she saw I was ready to come she jumped back down on my knob and finished off the job in her mouth.

I reckon that this girl would be up for most services if she liked the guy - she certainly gave me the impression that most things were on the menu. I was very happy with my visit - this is a personable girl with a right good attitude that I would happily see again. I found her to be very attractive, ‘cos I really like the fuller figure (I stress, not a fatty), but those who prefer slim model girls might not be as taken by her body as I was.

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/jasmin.html[/url]
[url]http://www.monrouge.de/nicky.html[/url]

This was a really fun little session. Jasmin and I get on well anyway; Nicky was an enthusiastic and sexy addition to the party. The girls took turns to administer nice sloppy deep throat BBBJ’s whilst I tucked into their gorgeous bodies. Nicky was a pleasant surprise, very sexy in a slutty sort of way – a little bit mechanical and polished for those who like the ‘GFE’ illusion, but perfect for the scenario I had in mind.

Cost was 240E (70E + 50E for FT, apiece) – expensive but worth it as a highly undeserved treat to myself. I would do this again sometime, but extend for an hour. I will see Nicky again solo at some time in the future, that is for sure

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/nelly.html[/url]

Nelly is another attractive girl who, to my mind, looks better in the flesh than on the website. She also has a cracking pair of tits and a fit body. She radiates a somewhat more ‘homely’ persona than the previous two, but offers a really nice sloppy bbbj and CIM. I have seen her a couple of times and been fully satisfied on both occasions. I fucked her on one of my visits, which was nice enough, but she is a touch mechanical for my tastes and I would stick to oral in future. Mid-range by MR standards to my mind, and a good representation of the high-quality standards offered at this establishment. She and I get on OK, but with no particular spark. If you were to hit it off with her, I suspect that she would be an enthusiastic performer.

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/mary.html[/url]

My experience with Mary was so similar to that with the aforementioned Nelly that I would only be repeating myself if I tendered a fuller report, so, ‘see above’ is all I have to say about this girl.

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/katharina.html[/url]

Probably the only letdown that I have ever experienced at Monrouge was with Katharina. She appears really friendly looking in her photos, always smiling. Perhaps I caught her on an off day, but I found her to be a mechanical and disinterested pro, despite her tender years. She does have a huge pair of soft natural tits, which for me usually serves to excuse a multitude of shortcomings in other areas, but, at about 18 or 20 years of age she has already acquired a bit of a belly and a slightly sour demeanour to accompany her admittedly respectable blowjob skills, and she is a dull and unresponsive fuck. Perhaps she would prove a better companion for somebody else – this game is all about chemistry after all, but I won’t be seeing her again. (n.b. Now working at Van Kampen under the name of Carmen)

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/adriana.html[/url]

The Madame told me that a number of the girls from the website that interested me were no longer working at Monrouge or were on holiday. She presented me with 4 girls, of whom only Adriana is depicted on their site. I had heard good reports on her in a variety of places, so I went with her. She is prettier than her photos suggest, with flawless white skin and a cute round face. Her service is really good, and whilst there was no special chemistry going on, I found it a really enjoyable and relaxing session. I shall long recall her lying on her back whilst I climaxed inside her, staring straight at me and moaning lightly with her doe-eyes wide open...(purely for show of course, but very tastefully done)

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/maya_neu.html[/url]

I had always lusted after the photos I'd seen of Maya, but for one reason or another I had never had the pleasure of her acquaintance until this week. She travels a lot and is relatively rarely in Berlin, so I was delighted to discover that she would be in residence during my trip to Berlin this week.

All I can say is, 'JEEZUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!!!'

Firstly, her body is just to die for. She is tall with huge soft tits, silky-smooth skin, a slim figure, pretty face (generic EE blond) and fabulous legs. 'Sex on legs' is I believe the expression. For someone (like me) who adores the busty MILF physique, she is the identikit stunner.

She is also a super lass; intelligent, funny with a very personable character. Best of all, she is an amazing performer in the sack.

Kissing, sucking, caressing and fucking - an hour of total pleasure that ranks amongst the greatest sexual experiences of my life.

She was so great I had to go back the next day for a repeat showing, which was every bit as good as the first (better actually, 'cos any doubts I'd had first time were totally absent and I was just able to enjoy the occasion)

I know that many of the guys on here have already had the pleasure with Maya before, and to those who had previously encouraged me to try her out, I offer my heartfelt gratitude. For those who haven't yet been with Maya, and especially those who like big-titted blondes, I can only repeat the advice I myself was given, and implore you to take advantage of one of the greatest sex experiences that the city has to offer.

I just wish that I could have taken her home with me - what a girl!

Sandra – not on website

Popped in on Tuesday. Choice of 6 girls. Shortlisted down to two, Sibil (on website) and Sandra (not). I chose Sandra. Poor choice. She is a tall brunette with a slim figure and large tits. Pretty face, pleasant girl, striking figure. Problem was, she offers a minimalist service. No facial, no anal (not my cuppa tea anyway), no FT, and above all COVERED BJ! This is really not the Monrouge way. I have been with lots of their girls and they usually offer a comprehensive service. She gave me the opportunity to back down once she'd explained the limitations but I didn't fancy calling in another girl who'd know that she'd been second choice. So I went ahead with it. 'Halbe stunde' with CoB finish cost me 100 thoroughly wasted euros. She is an ex-Bel Ami girl and is no doubt used to easy money. Thoroughly pleasant girl with a cracking body, no doubt about that, and an ideal girlfriend I'm sure, but as an SP she's just not worth the time or money. Avoid.

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Sybil is probably the 9th or 10th girl that I've sampled from this excellent bordello, and one of the best. Especially gratifying to finds standards being maintained after last week's disappointing encounter (reported previously on this forum)

Chose from a line-up of 4. Super physique, slim, huge tits (enhanced), soft skin, angular facial features. Says she's 27 - looks older (but I have no reason to disbelieve her). Classic MILF appearance. Nice girl too. Speaks no English.

Offers most services, but won't do CiM although GB was included in the price (unusually). Half-hour was 70E + 30E for BJ ohne + 10 kissing = 110E.

Her BJ was really terrific, slow and sexy with just the right level of hand pressure and lots of ball-licking and lovely eye-contact. The fact that facially she is a dead ringer for my best friend's somewhat prissy wife did not in any way detract from the experience!! A really nice performance for about 20 minutes, with a happy ending right in her face.

A definite repeat for me, and highly recommended for MILF lovers

For what it’s worth, my favourite girl in the Monrouge stable is Maya. She embodies everything that MR does well – superb body, fabulous tits, friendly attitude, a great fuck.

Charlie