Amsterdam

[QUOTE=ISOtrim;2263097]It's technically illegal to smoke outside of a coffee shop, so during may prove problematic, I haven't tried. [/QUOTE]It's usually illegal to smoke in public, depending on where you are, but it's allowed in private areas like a house or hotel room (if the hotel allows it anyway). If it's allowed in the room of a prostitute depends on the rules set by the owner I guess and the girl herself obviously. A lot of the girls are smoking cigarettes but I have hardly ever smelled weed when I visited them. Nevertheless I have read reports on a Dutch forum from guys saying they smoked weed with a girl before or after a session.

[QUOTE=Auaind;2262037]
A little frustrated I decided to try 42.
Selected a nice Romanian- pretty, curvy tight body- real tits- paid the guy at the front for an hour and follow her (actually follow her ass) to the room. She instructs me to take a shower and I oblige while she goes to fetch something. When she comes back she runs through the routine ". I give body massage then blowjob then sex". If you want to touch my body 50 Euro extra. What the heck I say fine let's do it. Then she says you can touch anywhere except my nipples and pussy. What? Why? Health reasons. Ok whatever. So I say forget it let's just do the massage routine. Pathetic limp effort and a hint of stale cigarette smoke in her breath. Turn off. By now I'm bored so tell her forget it I'll just finish myself off and leave. So 0 for 2 for #42. Won't be returning.

Hopefully next time 118 will have some availability and I'll possibly try an escort.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. Anyone else have an experience like this? I had just the opposite. No tight bodies, Thick older girls, I picked the best ones I could. I went there twice, neither girl was more than a 6 but both put in decent effort. One named sophia (thick blond) I would repeat. she was a fun girl but i prefer thinner and prettier.

[QUOTE=SamCan;2265021]That's interesting. Anyone else have an experience like this? I had just the opposite. No tight bodies, Thick older girls, I picked the best ones I could. I went there twice, neither girl was more than a 6 but both put in decent effort. One named sophia (thick blond) I would repeat. she was a fun girl but i prefer thinner and prettier.[/QUOTE]Had this issue a couple of weeks ago. Apparently there was a flu going around that caused many girls to be out. The first night only had two women, one of which was fugly, so I settled on a thick half black Dutch girl. Looking back I was lucky to find her because the second night was all women who are older and not very attractive, so I declined and tried my luck in Singel.

This is my report of my visit in October, had already started raining by then in Amsterdam so was lucky enough not to be too late for the year.

I was staying close to rld, in heart dam (name modified) hostel, and after reading all the reports decided not to do it in RLD. Window girls were amazing and best I've ever seen, but there are too many negative reviews so didn't try. Maybe I regret this.

Went to other rld, de pilp and singlet and found no girl worthy of my taste. Finally decided to do it in park 118 thanks to this forum, I had an idea about the place and the girls.

Met 7-8 girls inside the house, found Ana and Charlotte very attractive, never read a report about Charlotte before but because Anna was brunette and Charlotte was blonde, I went for her. She later told me she is dutch.

I paid 70 eur for 45 min to house mom, and we went upstairs, she stripped and asked me to wash hands, then I started discussing what's on offer, she said single shot and no DATY. Also no BBBJ and no CIM COB. I asked how much for multiple shot she asked for 40 eur more. I paid that and we started. She was faking it so bad it made the experience like a PSE. Constantly looking in my eyes while blowing. Then went for doggy and finished in mish. We chatted for 5 min, she was friendly. Then again she blew me and we repeated the same positions. She was not exactly a model like window girls but tall and natural boobs. Also very professional, I somehow felt it could have been more GFE. She is great otherwise and would definitely recommend.

[QUOTE=Minbog9;2266422]


Met 7-8 girls inside the house, found Ana and Charlotte very attractive, never read a report about Charlotte before but because Anna was brunette and Charlotte was blonde, I went for her. She later told me she is dutch.
.[/QUOTE]You chose Charlotte?

I had anna, not much different than that..........

I had a layover in Ams so took the train into the centre and booked a hotel for a night. Had a wander around the RLD and picked out 3 of what out I would say were 8/10,2 blondes and a brunette. I ended up picking one of the blondes who I chatted with for a minute at the door, she said she was Hungarian, was chatty and seemed quite happy. 50 euros for a BJ and fuck. I asked covered or uncovered and she said any. I ended getting a covered BJ which was OK before I got her to ride me 10 minutes before I doggied her for 5 minutes and shot my load. Overall was worth the 50 euros.

Hi all,

I've read about 15 pages back in both German and Amsterdam and wanted to see if I could get some guidance (I wasn't able to piece together a good plan yet).

1. I will be in Amsterdam and will have about 48 hours (after work Friday to my flight leaving on Sunday night) from Amsterdam.

2. I have never been to the Netherlands or to Germany, but I have been throughout Latin and south America on and off probably 200+ times over the last 15 years.

3. I was hoping to get a good 1-night experience in Amsterdam (whatever that means) and a good 1-day experience at a German FKK club (whatever that might mean) -- and then get back to the airport in Amsterdam for the Sunday night flight.

So a few questions:

1. Is a plan like this realistic?

2. What place should I hit on Friday (AMD) and Saturday (FKK)- I am used to $100 del Ray, $80 at places like energy / relax in Medellin, etc, so as far as price, something reasonable but not super cheap and not super pricey. I'm more concerned with just having a good time and knowing that the experience (including atmosphere) will most likely be a good one. I'm not really into $15 casas or $500 escorts. Instead preferring a place to have a few drinks, hang out, not feel pressured and be around other people, maybe English speakers if possible.

3. As far as train / taxi between the AMD / FKK (Germany), any thoughts there?

[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;2269361]Hi all,


1. Is a plan like this realistic?

2. What place should I hit on Friday (AMD) and Saturday (FKK)- I am used to $100 del Ray, $80 at places like energy / relax in Medellin, etc, so as far as price, something reasonable but not super cheap and not super pricey. I'm more concerned with just having a good time and knowing that the experience (including atmosphere) will most likely be a good one. I'm not really into $15 casas or $500 escorts. Instead preferring a place to have a few drinks, hang out, not feel pressured and be around other people, maybe English speakers if possible.

3. As far as train / taxi between the AMD / FKK (Germany), any thoughts there?[/QUOTE]I am no expert but have been to amsterdam and used quite a few services. Here is what I can tell you.

1. windows can be a rip off some are good. Some are not but I am older and choose not to waste a pop on a bad experience.

2. the Privehouse specifically 118 provides good service in the 5-6 times I have used it. It's easy to find. The girls are not 10's. (6-8 mostly) but if nothing appeals to you, just leave. No one is ever insulted. 65 euro gets you 30 minutes a CBJ and CFS. 95 Euro gets you two pops. Personally, if you want 2 pops, I would pay the 65 Euro finish, go 50 meters up the street to a nearby restaurant bar for a snack and beer and go back for a second pop with a different girl for 35 euro more than the same girl for 95 (65+65). Variety is the spice of life.

There is another privehouse sexclub vienna near this one by tram. Probably 15 minutes away. IT's more expensive (110? For 30 minutes?) every time I go there, the girls are busy but one. Can't say anymore on this one. I have never tried it but will say 118 has never let me down. I have walked out of 118 not impressed by any of the selection though. Bo, Anna, Cindy are all good choices.

I have used desire escorts one time with a rate of 150 euros delivered to your hotel. The girl denisa was 26, drop dead gorgeous with CBJ and CFS. There are mixed reviews on her with some happy some not. I would probably try Addy who is a blond and supposedly better. The girls will be more rushed than 118 but more beautiful so try both or choose based on what is important to you. It is convenient with hotel delivery the night she came. I was at a hotel further outside the city and saved myself an hour travel and went to sleep after.

There is a fast train from amsterdam centraal to Cologne Germany. It takes 3 hours. You could hop it at 7 am or so. (don't recall exact time) and step off in Cologne at 10 or 10:30. There are options back at 2 pm and later depending on how long you want to stay so you can go down and back in a day without changing your amsterdam hotel I have done this as a tourist.

There is an FKK there but you would have to get on the Germany forum to check it's quality. I have not used it. You could also pick up a rental car there to other nearby locations. I don't know the FKKs but this is probably the best way to Germany other than renting and driving the whole way yourself.

Another option is 6 hour train to frankfurt (I believe one train change) See the FKK down there with a taxi / uber and back. I have left on Friday night and gone to frankfurt and returned by Sunday night. It wasn't for mongering but I know it's possible. I suggest you have a Friday night hotel plan in place as you will get in late.

Hope that helps.

SAMCAN.

[QUOTE] As far as train / taxi between the AMD / FKK (Germany), any thoughts there?[/QUOTE]My first FKK experience was a train journey from Amsterdam to Venlo right on the Dutch / German border then 20 or so minute taxi ride to FKK Goldentime in Bruggen Germany. You also have Yin Yang FKK / Sauna club Roermond Netherlands which is another 20-25 minute taxi journey. More English speakers here. As for Amsterdam, well as you are already going to be there so you may as well see for your self and take from it what you will. But being a veteran of the South American scene (I'm jealous, would love to go there one day) Amsterdam may disappoint. I visited Amsterdam about 15 times before I discovered German FKK's and I've never gone back since.

[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;2269361]
3. As far as train / taxi between the AMD / FKK (Germany), any thoughts there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamCan;2270479]
There is a fast train from amsterdam centraal to Cologne Germany. It takes 3 hours. You could hop it at 7 am or so. (don't recall exact time) and step off in Cologne at 10 or 10:30. There are options back at 2 pm and later depending on how long you want to stay so you can go down and back in a day without changing your amsterdam hotel I have done this as a tourist.
SNIP
Another option is 6 hour train to frankfurt (I believe one train change)
[/QUOTE]You can book a train here: https://www.nsinternational.nl/en
If you book a few weeks in advance it's not that expensive. Be sure to reserve a seat as these trains are often crowded.

Look for the trains called 'ICE', those are usually the fastest. They run from Amsterdam to Frankfurt via Cologne, about 8 times a day. So without change.

Amsterdam Central to Cologne Central takes about 2h 40m.
Amsterdam Central to Frankfurt Central takes about 3h 50m.

Be aware though that there is quite often engineering works or maintenance planned in the weekends, either in Holland or Germany, which can make the journey considerably longer.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2270691]You can book a train here: https://www.nsinternational.nl/en


Amsterdam Central to Frankfurt Central takes about 3h 50m.

.[/QUOTE]If Mogwai says this time, he is right.

I was saying 5 or 6 from memory (years ago) but as I recall I either missed a train or had a slow down. I also went on to a town near frankfurt but slightly beyond it which may also be the different.

I will have three nights in Amsterdam, I have never been to Amsterdam nor German FKK, I was wondering I should stay entirely at Amsterdam or make a side trip to German FKK (like Cologne) too. I like beautiful blonde and a bit more on the GFE no rush side, but as I have never been to Europe sex clubs, I am open to new things.

This report is more than 6 months old (first week of June). Tried Carla from park 118. Amazing experience.

Went for the 95 euro (2 shots) + extras (DATY and smooching) for 20 each. Carla is a blonde Spaniard with a nice body (a bit of fat on the hips, otherwise good boobs+ass). She would care for you throughout and is close to a wholesome GFE experience. Started with small talk and slowly went into smooching and then proceeded to CBJ and then came in miss+doggy. I didn't fap before hence couldn't control it. During the second round, I went full on DATY +fingering till she came. Gave a good massage and finished by doing a oiled Handjob while I licked her pussy even more.

Overall, an awesome experience and would definitely try for her when I'm in Amsterdam again.

Face - 6/10.

Boobs - 7/10 (bit saggy).

Ass - 8/10.

Pussy - 7/10.

Cheers,

GN.

[QUOTE=MGreen69;2274169]I will have three nights in Amsterdam, I have never been to Amsterdam nor German FKK, I was wondering I should stay entirely at Amsterdam or make a side trip to German FKK (like Cologne) too. I like beautiful blonde and a bit more on the GFE no rush side, but as I have never been to Europe sex clubs, I am open to new things.[/QUOTE]3 nights in Amsterdam isn't much for a first timer so there'll be plenty for you to explore. Do FKKs next time, just relax and enjoy Amsterdam.

[QUOTE=DarkSmurf;2275608]3 nights in Amsterdam isn't much for a first timer so there'll be plenty for you to explore. Do FKKs next time, just relax and enjoy Amsterdam.[/QUOTE]Good advice.

Went today. Met fernanada. Brazilian blonde. Early 40's late 30's. She's a little thick but wouldn't say fat or big. English ok but not great. Nice breasts. Full body. 6 for looks. Paid the 65 for the half. Very good CBJ she kept going until I asked her for sex. Right into doggy without asking. She asked if I wanted. More CBJ which she did. Back to doggie then finished in mish w her legs up in the air and holding me tight. Decent session. I would try others but wouldn't turn her down based on who was available.

She's new. Been there 2 days.

Went there today. Saw 6 girls in the lobby. None thrilled me. I saw softie who I Had before. She's thick and older with large breasts. She's a real good time kissing my neck dropping her boobs in my mouth. Titty f*ck all for the price of admission. She is just fun. Not the type I would choose but went there once and she was it. Place was closing and it was her or back to the hotel alone. I tried her and had a good time. Frankly I don't recommend 42 but if your out by the airport like me, it's nearby. So it's either this or call desire escorts. This can also work but has its hits and misses.

I went to love club 21. I used to like to go there but they never replaced the girls. That has changed. They have. A new group. When I walked in. The 5 girls I saw were all doable. I chose the 1/2 hour massage and HJ for 65 euros. I chose a woman named Tishiana. She's late 30's 5'8. Nice fake breasts. Now I usually hate fake breasts but hers worked for me. Literally! She gave a great massage. Hard and as good as a real place. This is different with the girls before they did a quickly massage and sent you on your way.

She took her top and bottom off did a great massage. Flipped me over and gave me the pricing 30 euro for body to body and touching. 30 euro for CBJ. I wanted both. She discounted to 50. She put oil all over us and did the most erotic body slide. Kissed my neck so hard thought I would get a hicky. I rubbed her body kissed her nipples and had a great time. Her body is tight. . Nice stomach. Tight butt. She definitely works out.2 times during the body slide I thought I was going to slip inside he. But no.

She does this thing where she lifts her leg with her knee toward your head. She then holds your penis between her pelvic area and her hand with leg bent. She then slides up and down on top of you like your actually having sex. It's kind of a body HJ. She took her time throughout and the body to body seemed to go on forever. FINALLY she did a great CBJ. It was very good ending with her quickly bouncing her head up and down on my little guy. I had sex earlier in the day and nothing was happening. So she pulled off the condom and went back to the body slide. I came across her body and the towel on the bed.

After the glow,, she told me to take a shower. In a few minutes she joined to further clean the little guy my back my butt. I started to get hard I thought I was going to go again. We hugged played with each other in the shower. I thought it was over on the bed! We went over the time. I so wish I had chosen an hour w FS. She is sexy with a pretty face and body. One of the few woman that look better with their clothes off. The play sex was better than the real sex I've had at the privat houses.

. She's a gem guys. A real gem. She only works Saturday and Sunday and has a list of regulars that see her. She said it wasn't busy for the other girls but told me she was busy today with her regular customers. I can see why. I would be on the regular list too.

I would skip the CBJ next time to save the 30 euro. The body slide is awesome enough. I would probably choose FS as well. She's got two kids but there's no baby damage on the body. Can't speak for the pussy. Yet.

[QUOTE=SamCan;2276285]I went to love club 21. I used to like to go there but they never replaced the girls. That has changed. They have. A new group. [/QUOTE]I suppose you mean Love Club 21 in the Koestraat? This place has been around for many years already (maybe even dozens of years). Nice to read a review about it, I didn't know it still exists.
Last time I went there must have been 15 years ago or something like that. The service used to be OK but on the expensive side so I didn't go there very often.

The picture below is old (2011). I suppose it's not a Thai massage club anymore but just an 'ordinary' massage club? The name of the woman you had (Tishiana) doesn't sound Thai anyway.

[URL]http://www.amsterdam-red-light-district-maps.com/LoveClub21.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2276417]I suppose you mean Love Club 21 in the Koestraat? This place has been around for many years already (maybe even dozens of years). Nice to read a review about it, I didn't know it still exists.
Last time I went there must have been 15 years ago or something like that. The service used to be OK but on the expensive side so I didn't go there very often.

The picture below is old (2011). I suppose it's not a Thai massage club anymore but just an 'ordinary' massage club? The name of the woman you had (Tishiana) doesn't sound Thai anyway.

[URL]http://www.amsterdam-red-light-district-maps.com/LoveClub21.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes. She's Thai. All the girls are Thai. So she said. Yes. I have been going for years. I stopped when it went downhill. All I can say is this girl was an experience. Expensive? Compared to 50 euro ripoffs or gems? Sure. As stated 65 for a massage and HJ in a 1/2 hour. I could go to 118 for that for CBJ and CFS.

This was my best experience there ever. I'the see her again for that price plus more. YMMV. The other girls? No clue.

I don’t know the difference between Thai and ordinary but.

Samcan.

I ended up at park 118. The showed me two attractive girls but just not my type. She said stay 5 minutes and Patricia a. Blond spinner would be down. I love them small so I waited. Instead they sent in charlotte. shes about 510 typical Dutch girl. Late 20s . She must have finished first. She was pretty. Blond and natural breasts. Many girls run in say their name and disappear. Charlotte walked in said Hello, and kinda hung in the door in a pose. She walked out and I told the House mom sure!

She was quite friendly. I didn't ask extras. Took a shower hopped in the bed. She took her top off and gave me a breast massage up and down my body. It didn't feel like a transaction. Then CBJ which was quite good. A different poster didn't like her looking at him during the BJ. I found it sexy. We jumped into doggy and finished in mish. I think she was ready to mount me on top but I move into doggie too soon.

We talked a little without a rush but since it was a half hour I jumped in the shower. 65 euros and I would do it again. Her picture on 118 is close but better than real life. Not so far off that you would be disappointed.

[QUOTE=SamCan;2276623]Yes. She's Thai. All the girls are Thai. So she said. Yes. I have been going for years. I stopped when it went downhill. All I can say is this girl was an experience. Expensive? Compared to 50 euro ripoffs or gems? Sure. As stated 65 for a massage and HJ in a 1/2 hour. I could go to 118 for that for CBJ and CFS.

This was my best experience there ever. I'the see her again for that price plus more. YMMV. The other girls? No clue.

I dont know the difference between Thai and ordinary but.

Samcan.[/QUOTE]When I said that the place was expensive I meant 15 to 20 years ago, when I was still going there. Although I don't recall the exact prices to be honest.
But back then you didn't have that many ripoffs in the RLD yet, so it was a better deal to go to the window girls where you could get FS from a young Thai lady for only 30 Euro.
Unfortunately those days (and the Thai girls) are long gone.

Besides Thai and Chinese massage parlors there are also parlors with Dutch or other caucasian ladies. That's what I meant with 'ordinary' (maybe not the best word to use).

Met up with the lovely Alessandraa from Adultwork this evening. Amazing girl, good looking and was also able to engage in an intelligent conversation with her.

I met her for an outcall to my hotel in Amsterdam. I have a work assignment which means I will be here for around 6 weeks. Not the worst place in the world to be!

I have already tried the red light area a couple of times, which I find to be a total rip off. The girls are very attractive, but also very mechanical. A pure production line.

I do not normally use the Adultwork web-site, but Alessandraa had a load of positive reviews on it, so I thought I would give her a go.

She is a lovely girl, very down to earth and made me feel at ease straight away. Very sexy & provided a nice GFE experience, doesn't normally do OWO, but did for me at extra cost.

She actually enjoys Anal which was a treat, in terms of "what a view!" in doggy! She also has a very nice firm body. Sexy!

I may have to revisit very soon!

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2276931]When I said that the place was expensive I meant 15 to 20 years ago, when I was still going there. Although I don't recall the exact prices to be honest.
But back then you didn't have that many ripoffs in the RLD yet, so it was a better deal to go to the window girls where you could get FS from a young Thai lady for only 30 Euro.
Unfortunately those days (and the Thai girls) are long gone.

Besides Thai and Chinese massage parlors there are also parlors with Dutch or other caucasian ladies. That's what I meant with 'ordinary' (maybe not the best word to use).[/QUOTE]No harm. No foul Mogwai. I've learned a lot from you. Yes. I paid more than the prive house but I found tishiana was special. At least for me. In the old days I was afraid to have FS and this was an alternative on a discreet. Street. Every time I step out of a window I feel like I step into a crowd. That's why I prefer 118 and, koestraat.

Fear of FS and risks involved are behind me but still enjoy a good massage with an erotic rub. I also didn't think I had enough left to make it happen This girl met both needs. Got me hard and delivered an orgasm.

Mogwai. Apologies if my response came as abrupt. It was not my intent. I do my research but still don't do well with the window girls. Hung out one night all evening to see one of the famous ones "agnieshia or something " never found her. Had her Kramer number and alll.

Anyway. For those guys wanting something less than FS but want it to be more, this option worked for me.

[QUOTE=SamCan;2277165] In the old days I was afraid to have FS and this was an alternative on a discreet. Street. Every time I step out of a window I feel like I step into a crowd. That's why I prefer 118 and, koestraat.[/QUOTE]Did you try the RLD in Alkmaar or The Hague? Much more quiet than Amsterdam and no tourists there.

[QUOTE=SamCan;2277165]
Mogwai. Apologies if my response came as abrupt.[/QUOTE]No problem mate, apologies accepted.

[QUOTE=JayXXX;2277142]Met up with the lovely Alessandraa from Adultwork this evening. [/QUOTE]Nice redhead, looks great!

I've been researching on this board and seems like BBJs aren't very common in Amsterdam. Anyone know of agencies or brothels that offer BBJs? Thanks!

[QUOTE=KobeMagic324;2277658]I've been researching on this board and seems like BBJs aren't very common in Amsterdam. Anyone know of agencies or brothels that offer BBJs? Thanks![/QUOTE]See my earlier post re: Alessandraa.

OWO was on offer at extra cost.

[QUOTE=KobeMagic324;2277658]I've been researching on this board and seems like BBJs aren't very common in Amsterdam. Anyone know of agencies or brothels that offer BBJs? Thanks![/QUOTE]Look at Kinky.nl or Sexjobs.nl
Loads of girls there who offer BBBJs. If they are good is hit or miss though.

Hi,

I will be in Amsterdam next Monday, checking the various agencies, any recommendation from you guys? Thanks (I read TFF and did not find much.

Hello,

Anyone have any feedback on Golden Key or Club LV? Or any other sex club in Amsterdam. Just wondering what the quality is like, if the girls offer BBBJs, etc. Thanks!

I'm a long time Sr under same name on US site, but I have 1 night on a flight layover and I have to do the window because I've never been there. I don't care about the GF experience just want as hot as I can find, preferably blond that will do FS, even if mechanical, but don't want to pay then inside get hit up for more or deal with BS, so, any advise?

After windows will go to a nearby club what is the best for what I'm looking for (looks over service but for sure FS)?

Thanks for any help!

Hi,

Visiting Amsterdam next week, besides desire escorts is there any other escort agency that you can recommend?

Also do all agency's for 1 hour allow you only one time to have sex?

Can't agree more. Yet the RLD is one of the big tourist attractions. I say make the lookie loos pay an entrance fee (30€? You can even use some of it a session. Give the money to the girls who stand there in Theo fuck8 ng windows being gawked at.

[URL]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/02/amsterdams-mayor-prostitutes-should-not-be-a-tourist-attraction/[/URL]

Hi all,

What's a reliable escort service with a Dutch, Nordic, German girls? I found this website, but the girls are from 3 years ago and still there today. Strange. [URL]http://www.dutchescorts.nl/[/URL].

Finally starting to write my first report after scanned through multiple threads. I'm not very good at the writing stuff. But what the hell. I'll give it a shot.

Booked Nadia via S S. Booking process pretty smooth. Owner M responds to e mails professionally and promptly. Mind you this is an expensive agency but I found the experience worth it.

Was staying at an upscale hotel- you need to call the agency from your room to confirm and they confirm back. I was a tad late in confirming.

Nadia arrived bang on time; met her at the hotel lobby and my word. She was most beautiful woman in the lobby. Up to the room. Chat to begin, smooth talker and was pretty easy to connect with her.

Let me describe her. About 5"4' thereabouts. Black shiny hair. Natural boobs. Smelled super nice. Shaved and clean pussy to suck at.

Half an hour later-she set up nice soothing music and got into the act. Lots and lots of DFK. Undressed her to find a couple of tattoos. Not particularly glaring. Sucked at her all natural boobs -nice perky set there. Sucked on her twat as she gave me a HJ in 69 pos. CBJ followed suit. She seemed to be enjoying it and I was super into it. Made her ride me to start with. Doggie looking into the large mirror and then missi. Fuck it was insanely hot as I finished round 1. Took a break. She offered a massage which I gladly took. Rubbed her self all over me for about 25 20 minutes and I was up and ready for again. Tried almost all positions to end. Regret not having gone for the ass.

Overall it was a super GFE experience as the agency claims it to be. WIR. Yes. But I guess lots of to explore first before I get there. Look forward to the next Amsterdam trip.

Cheers.

I'd avoid using regular escort services. I'd focus on Golden Angels escort and kinky. NL.

[QUOTE=Oneminuteboy;2290885]I'd avoid using regular escort services. I'd focus on Golden Angels escort and kinky. NL.[/QUOTE]What are 'regular' escort services? The cheap ones? Society Service is not cheap. The rates start from 700 EUR for 2 hours.
I'm always suspicious when a first time poster posts a review about an escort service. Could be advertising. But I found an interview on Cosmopolitan with the owner and in this case it seems to be a genuine high class escort service with pretty and smart women.

The interview is in Dutch:
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/nl/liefde-en-sex/interviews/a157430/marike-is-eigenaresse-van-high-class-escortbureau-society-service/

Aside from the selection being lacking sometimes, I generally find park 118 to be a positive experience. I'm thinking of trying somewhere else in Amsterdam, and found these two places but they seem to have more mixed reviews than 118, and the photos of the girls there don't really give you a lot to go on.

Salon Prive: [URL]https://www.salonprive.nl/index.html[/URL].

Sexclub Vienna: [URL]https://www.sexclubvienna.nl/en/girls-sexclub-amsterdam/[/URL].

I don't suppose anyone here has gone to either of those places and can comment on the experience? Rld girls are notorious for upselling, so if the price for an hour at those two places includes the standard activities (DATY, light kissing), I might give them a look.

There's also clublv ([URL]https://www.club-lv.com/models/[/URL]) but since the prices aren't listed I figure it may be much more expensive.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2291274]What are 'regular' escort services? The cheap ones? Society Service is not cheap. The rates start from 700 EUR for 2 hours.
I'm always suspicious when a first time poster posts a review about an escort service. Could be advertising. But I found an interview on Cosmopolitan with the owner and in this case it seems to be a genuine high class escort service with pretty and smart women.

The interview is in Dutch:
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/nl/liefde-en-sex/interviews/a157430/marike-is-eigenaresse-van-high-class-escortbureau-society-service/[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matador77;2291495]
There's also clublv ([URL]https://www.club-lv.com/models/[/URL]) but since the prices aren't listed I figure it may be much more expensive.[/QUOTE]

I have been to club lv a year ago. The cost was 150 a half 250 an hour. Girls were not that good for the price. Imsaw only one worth that. Almost wish I'd taken her. She wasn't that nice. I will stick w 118 over LV. Best bet there is call ahead and book. No, though older s definitely my fave.

Any experience with these girls in Amsterdam?

[URL]https://netherlands.topescortbabes.com/escorts/Jana_364641[/URL]

https://www.dollhouse.nl/escorts/profile/ida/amsterdam-escorts

[URL]https://netherlands.topescortbabes.com/escorts/Danielle_314328[/URL]

[URL]https://netherlands.topescortbabes.com/escorts/Kristy_422836[/URL]

I am planning on visiting next week and trying to pick 2 days between Amsterdam, Barcelona, Budapest and Prague. Doing mostly FKK clubs, but want to spend few days with escorts.

Thanks.

Another bad time with an "Italian" blond with fake the cups in Amsterdam RLD. I don't know why I keep trying but I had another bad time in the Amsterdam RLD. Has anyone ever actually had a good session in De Wallen?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2293829]Another bad time with an "Italian" blond with fake the cups in Amsterdam RLD. I don't know why I keep trying but I had another bad time in the Amsterdam RLD. Has anyone ever actually had a good session in De Wallen?[/QUOTE]I had many!

Liana / Lily in the Dollebegijnensteeg, last window on the left after entering from the canal side. Works during daytime until appr 17:30.

Gabriela in the Trompettersteeg, one of the first windows on the left after entering from canal side. Works during night time, from 21:00 or a bit earlier.

There are many more of them. If your hygiene and grooming are OK, and you stay half an hour for 100 euros then there should not be a big problem.

Important to negotiate clearly with window ladies. I went in with a cute Romanian and the deed started. She asked me to pull down my pants and started giving a CBJ. Then she says only CBJ and HJ for 50 and that too only for 15 min. Touching is extra 50 and fuck another 50. I was disappointed. I asked for a fuck for 50 with additional 15 min time. But she refused. So gave 100 and finished everything in 15. Regrettable experience. Watch out for these tricks brothers.

Went in and was greeted by the hostess. All the models presented were old. Bo Cindy Roweena Anna are all out of town. Returned disappointed.

[QUOTE=KobeMagic324;2283830]Hello,

Anyone have any feedback on Golden Key or Club LV? Or any other sex club in Amsterdam. Just wondering what the quality is like, if the girls offer BBBJs, etc. Thanks![/QUOTE]I was recently in Amsterdam for a week and identified Golden Key and Club LV as the top clubs. At my time of life quality is more important than quantity, and money is not the issue it once was. I am looking for classy nightclubs with classy girls. For me line-up brothels and the red light windows are anathema. I spent two evenings at Golden Key and one at Club LV, which both meet my criteria. These two clubs are very similar. Classy and discreet but expensive. Both have clean and comfortable rooms upstairs with bath, shower or jacuzzi.

I like to arrive sober and early (10 - 10.30 pm) so as to relax, see what is going on, and speak to a few girls before selecting a companion for the evening.

Both clubs charge an entry fee of 75 euros which includes three drinks. The girls are not supposed to approach you, so you can take your time. You soon discover that the girls drink only champagne! In GK you can buy a small bottle for 60 euros, with the cheapest full bottle 250. In LV champagne is available only by the full bottle, the cheapest being 360 euros. So treating the girls can quickly get expensive.

In both clubs there are usually 8-10 girls there at any time in the evening, all in their twenties or early thirties. They are all beautiful, in their different ways, but most are also charming, attentive and funny. Most speak good English. They consider themselves to be the elite of working girls in Amsterdam. When the time comes, the cost of a room for an hour with one girl is 250 euros. In GK I was told that the girl gets 90 euros of this, so some of them will try to charge you if you want DFK or OWO.

My first encounter in GK was with Katerina from St Petersburg, a beautiful blonde in her mid-twenties with a very bubbly personality. In fact she talked almost non-stop, pausing only when she was kissing or giving a blow job. At the latter she is an expert. She took me to the peak in three minutes flat, so I had to ask her to stop as I did not want it to be over quite so soon.

On my second evening at GK I ended up with Gaby from Amsterdam. She is a statuesque blonde of about thirty, with a great sense of humour and a zest for life. I fell entirely under her spell. When we eventually returned to the bar, I told her friends that she had tried to kill me. And at one point I thought she had succeeded.

On my visit to LV I went almost immediately for Savannah, a Dutch girl in her late twenties with such a beautiful face and figure that I could not resist. It soon proved that she had a beautiful personality to match. I spent ninety minutes in paradise before the dreaded phone call summoned me back to reality.

In both clubs it is a sackable offence for a girl to give a client her phone number. But the economics dictate that most will do just that, as long as they trust you and do not suspect that you may be a plant from the club management. That way you can arrange to see them outside the club for an evening, and cut out the clock watching and the exorbitant champagne prices.

Of the two clubs I prefer Golden Key. It is slightly less expensive and more relaxed. By comparison I found LV slightly clinical.

One last word on Club LV. When I arrived the doorman told me that the club will have nothing whatever to do with drugs. He asked me if I had any drugs on me, and insisted on taking my jacket as it is a "no jacket club". I was surprised to find this attitude in Amsterdam, of all places.

I hope this may be of interest or use to like-minded visitors to Amsterdam.

Good day!

So been reviewing posts back through last year and see some really good senior advice, which is always a good sign and much appreciated. I am one of what looks like many coming to your wonderful city and inquiring about this and that, so going to be one too LOL.

I am a senior on my board in US. Virginia boards as consultant9 but that was taken here so new handle here. If making a trip across the pond my way, be sure to inquire.

Coming in early April for 2 days. Was there last fall with my SB but she's unavailable this trip. I've checked both kinky. NL and Sexjobs. NL but unfortunately can't read the language and do not see the typical EN or Brit flag to translate page.

My big issue is not being familiar with the escort scene as agencies over here tend to be fishy at best and fee listed is for agency for "girls time" and then pay girl more specific services so I do not use. We have sites for our independent escorts and board s like this one for UTR's.

I guess basically looking for a girl to come to me (working in securing an Airbnb now) and great, BBJ with multi pops allowed in session. Is that all doable? Would love to find a UTR that also wants to just hang and be a tour guide, eat, drink, smoke (pot), and of course have sex too but assume that would break the bank or no real sb / UTR types around. Any suggestions on any of those activities would be appreciated and feel free to pm me if that is a better way to answer specifics.

If I end up going agency route then any recommendations of legit sites to trust and that the girls pictured are the girls that show up that would be great too. Just an accidental tourist looking for local guide for fun and the fun LOL.

Thanks gentleman!

Just realized that use of PM's requires subscription on your side of the pond. Daft Americans that don't read details.

Anyhoo, can't leave email either so if anyone sent pm my apologies for not responding and since can't process US CC's and don't do cashapps then guess I am SOL. I'll keep reviewing posts further back to see if I can find what I'm looking for or sites that have Eng versions.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2296718]
I've checked both kinky. NL and Sexjobs. NL but unfortunately can't read the language and do not see the typical EN or Brit flag to translate page.[/QUOTE]

You can do a search at Kinky as follows:

Click on 'Uitgebreid zoeken' (a small white link at the top of the page).

Fill the following fields:

Land: Nederland.
Provincie: Noord-Holland.
Plaats: Amsterdam.
Categorie: vrouwen.

Click on 'Zoeken' (red/yellow button further down the page on the right).

You will see that quite a lot of ads are in English. And if not then Google Translate is your friend.

Sexjobs is a bit more complicated since they work with categories.

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2296718]
I guess basically looking for a girl to come to me (working in securing an Airbnb now) and great, BBJ with multi pops allowed in session. Is that all doable? Would love to find a UTR that also wants to just hang and be a tour guide, eat, drink, smoke (pot), and of course have sex too but assume that would break the bank or no real sb / UTR types around. Any suggestions on any of those activities would be appreciated and feel free to pm me if that is a better way to answer specifics.[/QUOTE]What is a SB / UTR?

You might be able to find a girl by placing an ad on Kinky yourself. But since this site is in Dutch only it gets too complicated to explain how to do that. However you might be able to figure it out yourself with the help of Google Translate.

Thanks and I will give that a try. I sincerely appreciate the advice, as legality and customs are definitely different. Can you tell me if girls pictured are girls that show up at your room and if rate listed is rate or are do they upsell? Basically what's usually standard for the rate advertised and what do they usually upsell? Any links to any ads that are your favs as you seem to have very good posts? Again, usually liking for hour BBBJ, CIM great option, multi pops, GFE type experiences. Doubles fun too LOL.

Thanks.

SB = Sugar Baby.

UTR = Under the Radar usually university girls or others that may dabble in sex work but haven't committed, don't advertise, and usually are just word of mouth from other hobbyist. They are usually very low providers with regulars.

In the US these are shared contacts between our senior members via pm, which that is a free option on our site.

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2296718]Good day!
I've checked both kinky. NL and Sexjobs. NL but unfortunately can't read the language and do not see the typical EN or Brit flag to translate page.[/QUOTE]If you use Google Chrome as your browser, you will find the translate option in the upper right corner.

Just to the left of the bookmark "star".

Then Google will translate the whole page for you.

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2297701]Thanks and I will give that a try. I sincerely appreciate the advice, as legality and customs are definitely different. Can you tell me if girls pictured are girls that show up at your room and if rate listed is rate or are do they upsell? Basically what's usually standard for the rate advertised and what do they usually upsell? Any links to any ads that are your favs as you seem to have very good posts? Again, usually liking for hour BBBJ, CIM great option, multi pops, GFE type experiences. Doubles fun too LOL.[/QUOTE]Girls pictured are not always the girls that show up or they use old pictures and are (much) fatter and / or older now.
The rate listed is usually the rate for CBJ and CFS. Sometimes they mention that BBBJ is included but other options (like anal, CIM or multiple pops) cost extra. Sometimes they don't mention anything and they will upsell.
I think you get the picture: it's very hit or miss and YMMV.

Many girls have all options ticked but this is usually bullshit.
Escort is usually EUR 150 per hour (in Amsterdam, within the city limits).

For your wishes tick the following boxes in the advanced search screen (see attached screenshots):

'Escort' under 'Dienst' (which means service).
Klaarkomen in mond (cum in mouth).
Pijpen zonder condoom (BJ without condom).

And since there is no option 'GFE' you might want to tick 'Tongzoenen' (French kissing) and 'Zoenen' (kissing) as well.
However GFE is hard to find, so don't have too high expectations. Don't have too high expectations anyway.

I don't have any recommendations since I'm hardly mongering anymore in my country. I gave up on it because quality went down the hill and prices went up. And I was more a 'window guy' anyway because you see what you get there.

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2297701]
SB = Sugar Baby.

UTR = Under the Radar usually university girls or others that may dabble in sex work but haven't committed, don't advertise, and usually are just word of mouth from other hobbyist. They are usually very low providers with regulars.

In the US these are shared contacts between our senior members via pm, which that is a free option on our site.[/QUOTE]I'm not aware of UTR girls in Holland, but maybe that's because they are UTR LOL. And I'm not aware of shared contacts either.
However I have occasionally seen ads from college girls on sites like Kinky and Sexjobs.

And Sexjobs has a section for sugar daddies. Look for 'Suikeroom gevraagd' (Sugar daddy wanted) under 'Dames van plezier' (P4 P girls) on the left side of the website. Many ads there but most of them are looking for big money and a regular contact, not just one meeting (because they are not hookers of course LOL).

Excellent intel Mogwai and thanks for the Chrome tip ktringen. Downloaded Chrome to iPhone and translate pops right up. Few words I think they miss on or I'm not sure.

Aftrekken = subtract?

Anaal bij klant = anal at customer. Assume that is not giving and more pegging by escort LOL correct?

Plassex=peex no clue on that one.

Again thanks very much for the insights and yes YMMV a lot over here due to not being legal so most ads with model quality images are fake here. We rely a lot on our fellow mongers reports as I'the say 90% of ads over here are scams to webcams or other phishing.

Here's a couple I pulled using search options explained. Any insights appreciated! Assume that when I contact them I can be very direct and ask if they provide the services I want and rates specifically. That's a no no over here due to legality but assume not with you guys.

So this person and a few others from search results link out to an agency site called Dreamed Escorts. [URL]https://www.kinky.nl/mobiel/sex-afspraken/vrouwen/583925-Luxury-Dreamedescorts-model-in-Amsterdam/default.aspx[/URL].

I believe I saw a post or two but anyone used them and have any opinion on if pics and services match their girls? Any info if they upsell or if the higher 200 covers it all listed? The dreamed website seemed to list extras so more of these girls are realistic expectations.

On this one of any intel great but curious if price at top says 130 but bottom says escort 150 what's the difference?? [URL]https://www.kinky.nl/mobiel/sex-afspraken/vrouwen/586489-New-in-town/default.aspx[/URL].

[URL]https://www.kinky.nl/mobiel/sex-afspraken/vrouwen/581488-Amsterdamosdorp/default.aspx[/URL]

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2298185]Excellent intel Mogwai and thanks for the Chrome tip ktringen. Downloaded Chrome to iPhone and translate pops right up. Few words I think they miss on or I'm not sure.
Aftrekken = subtract?
Anaal bij klant = anal at customer. Assume that is not giving and more pegging by escort LOL correct?
Plassex=peex no clue on that one.
[/QUOTE]Aftrekken = jerk off (hand job).
Anaal bij klant is indeed pegging.
Plassex = p*ee sex (g*olden shower).

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2298185]
Assume that when I contact them I can be very direct and ask if they provide the services I want and rates specifically.[/QUOTE]Sure, that's no problem at all.

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2298185]
On this one of any intel great but curious if price at top says 130 but bottom says escort 150 what's the difference?? [URL]https://www.kinky.nl/mobiel/sex-afspraken/vrouwen/586489-New-in-town/default.aspx[/URL].[/QUOTE]The prices at the top, for half an hour and one hour, are usually for incall. The price at the bottom is for one hour outcall.
Quite a lot of girls are doing incall only. Some girls do outcall on request and some do outcall only.

As always, thanks! For all the helpful info. I'll report back on adventures, if I can now find a place as 2 Airbnb's have cancelled on me LOL.

Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2287886]Can't agree more. Yet the RLD is one of the big tourist attractions. I say make the lookie loos pay an entrance fee (30? You can even use some of it a session. Give the money to the girls who stand there in Theo fuck8 ng windows being gawked at.

[URL]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/02/amsterdams-mayor-prostitutes-should-not-be-a-tourist-attraction/[/URL][/QUOTE]They have just anounced that as of January 1 next year group tours are not allowed anymore in the RLD.

Tours in other parts of the city are still allowed but the guides will need a permit, the groups have to be smaller and the participants will have to pay an extra tax.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2276841-amsterdam-verbiedt-rondleidingen-op-de-wallen.html

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2297292]Just realized that use of PM's requires subscription on your side of the pond. Daft Americans that don't read details.

Anyhoo, can't leave email either so if anyone sent pm my apologies for not responding and since can't process US CC's and don't do cashapps then guess I am SOL. I'll keep reviewing posts further back to see if I can find what I'm looking for or sites that have Eng versions.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]I realize it may be too late, but for next time it might be worth sending through the mail the cash option payment. I too did not want to use a CC. I can report that I took the chance and did the mail-in approach and it worked. In my case I had some leftover Euros from a previous trip and I printed out the form and followed instructions and within three weeks or so I got and email from Jackson saying I was good to PM etc.

[QUOTE=PJOneil;2298516]As always, thanks! For all the helpful info. I'll report back on adventures, if I can now find a place as 2 Airbnb's have cancelled on me LOL.

Happy mongering![/QUOTE]Same happened to me on my last visit. Wonder if it's an "Amsterdam thing". Usually does happen very rarely.

Looking forward to your report!

I was recently in Amsterdam for a couple of nights. I enjoyed wandering around the RLD looking at the eye candy, but from reading this sight, I did not think I would have a good time there. I did not attempt to partake in the company of any of the ladies in the RLD. I did visit Park 118 twice. I had trouble getting through the door both times. Apparently, you need to push hard on the door while pressing the buzzer button.

My first night at park 118 I chose Lola. A beautiful black girl from the Caribbean. She has fake boobies, and I am not much into that, but her nipples are fun to play with, and she has one of the most amazing asses I have ever seen. Lola charged +30€ to French kiss. This was worth every dime. She is a great kisser, and is not afraid to put her tongue in your mouth. She used her lovely mouth to kiss other parts of my body, and this was very nice. She gave a covered blowjob like a champ. She used lots of hard sucking so I could actually feel the BJ through the condom. We did a little cowgirl for maybe 21 seconds, then I said, I want doggy style. Lola said, "OK horny man." As she got on all fours. I got behind her amazing ass, and went to work. We went at it for a bit. If I stopped pumping, she would grind that amazing ass into me. Lola played with balls while I gave her my cock. She gave me some encouraging dirty talk. That ass was fucking amazing! I really enjoyed giving it to her doggy style. I took my time, and enjoyed myself. I did start to get the feeling that she was getting tired. She did not show it, but some how I felt it. I decided to work to finish, and blew my load inside of the condom. Lola was great to be with.

The very next night I decided I needed to go back. This time I chose Charlotte. A tall dutch girl, with strawberry blond hair. She was both sweet, and sexy in demeanour. She wanted +40€ to kiss. Her kissing was not very intimate. I loved the way she made eye contact while she gave me head. We just did covered BJ and finished with a hand job. I enjoyed Charlotte's presence, and had a good time with her. I wish I would have had more energy for our meeting together.

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;2300408] I had trouble getting through the door both times. Apparently, you need to push hard on the door while pressing the buzzer button.
[/QUOTE]You don't know this system in the US? You don't have to press the button (again) when you hear the buzzer. The buzzer is just an indication that the resident has unlocked the door so you can open it.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2300704]You don't know this system in the US? You don't have to press the button (again) when you hear the buzzer. The buzzer is just an indication that the resident has unlocked the door so you can open it.[/QUOTE]I have no experience with these systems. They might exist here in the USA, but I have not experienced them in my area.

First of all thanks to all those who posted a lot of information on this board. It was very useful in my Amsterdam trip and I thought I will share my experiences as well.

As suggested by many, I avoided the windows and am glad I did. The girls are not that good looking and I felt that they are their to just rip you off.

I heard on this forum about adultwork and found Daria under Amsterdam. She had glowing reviews on that website and I thought of asking her for an outcall. She was sweet and pleasant on the phone and agreed to come in 2 hours. She was prompt and I was stunned when I opened the door. She was drop dead gorgeous, wore business dress and smelled great.

She first asked for the money which was kind of turn off because I usually like to pay after the service has been done satisfactorily. I only paid extra for kissing and it was worth it. She put me at ease immediately and started the session with a lot of kissing and hugging. She has a great body, nice skin, big natural boobs and a beautiful smile. We did it in several positions and she was very eager to please me. I finally came and we laid down next to each other taking stuff. It was almost an hour and she got up, cleaned, kissed me and left.

The next day I went to Park 118 at noon and had a good session with Lola. A black beauty. But I don't feel satisfied with Incalls, so I called Daria and asked her to visit me again in the night. This session was even better than the last one. We were like two lovers meeting after a long time. Overall I had a very good time with Daria.

Thanks to those who put me on to Lola at Park 118. She is stunning. That ass is magnificent and her service was good. She's friendly and personable and her BJ is quite good.

It's unlikely, however, that I'll repeat as I'll be heading back to Asia where I'm paying half as much for twice as long with women equally as friendly and generally as skilled. Yes, I wasn't turning down the extras with a girl that fit so I paid somewhere around 150 Euro for an hour.

Hello forum,

I'm going to Amsterdam in a couple weeks and I'm looking to get a BBBJ, mostly just for the novelty of it since mongering is verboten in my neck of the woods. My understanding is that this probably won't fly in the RLD or the Private Houses, so I'm hopeful you could direct me to a website where I could find a provider. I assume there's a Dutch equivalent to Backpage (before it was quashed) where I could find what I'm looking for. Ideally I could post an ad myself of what I want and have girls respond to me, but that's in a perfect world. Bear in mind I speak no Dutch, but I'll do my best with my browser's translate feature. If you could direct me to a website that would facilitate my BBBJ goal in Amsterdam, or any other relevant info to that end, it would be much appreciated. And hopefully I can return with a successful trip report.

[QUOTE=Runlikethesun;2305706]
I'm going to Amsterdam in a couple weeks and I'm looking to get a BBBJ, mostly just for the novelty of it since mongering is verboten in my neck of the woods. My understanding is that this probably won't fly in the RLD or the Private Houses, so I'm hopeful you could direct me to a website where I could find a provider.[/QUOTE]Did you even read this thread? See my post #2049 and #2052.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2306231]Did you even read this thread? See my post #2049 and #2052.[/QUOTE]I read it a couple weeks ago, which I think gave me the idea to take the online approach, and then I completely forgot that I'd read it. Sorry about that, and thanks for the detailed post.

Any experience with these girls in Amsterdam?

[URL]https://www.topescort.nl/megan-605244[/URL]

I am planning on visiting next week and trying to pick 2 days between Amsterdam, but want to spend few days with escorts.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=GregHowe;2303512]Thanks to those who put me on to Lola at Park 118. She is stunning. That ass is magnificent and her service was good. She's friendly and personable and her BJ is quite good.
r.[/QUOTE]Do you guys book lola before you go? I have been a number of times and not seen her.

[QUOTE=SamCan;2309962]Do you guys book lola before you go? I have been a number of times and not seen her.[/QUOTE]I didn't. Just walked in and she was free. Lucky, I guess. The second time I went, she was already busy.

I'm thinking about making another trip out to Amsterdam soon but I was looking for something similar to Asmara. I've noted it's not been great from past several posts, but I like their lineup system, the service was pretty subpar though. Girl was mechanical, bored, and even had an attitude.

Is there somewhere that offer similar services but better service? Especially since Asmara hasn't been mentioned in a bit?

Was recently at the Asmara. Little choice of girls (just 3 in the evening). The guy at the reception not welcoming at all.

Choose Sophia, great girl from Italy. Not a stunner as such but absolutely lovely with great soft tits and a nice character.

Damage 110 Eur for 1 HR massage and sex. The pricing at Asmara is different per service and starts at 80 Eur. Ok experience but not fantastic, but definitely an alternative to rip off opportunities.

Long-time lurker, first report.

Had my first taste of the Amsterdam Red Light District last year and wanted to come back. Bottom line: bring euros. Lots of euros. No cheap sex here, at least after dark in the main canal area. Almost better to think of it as a big party with a side order of peep show. Also if you like to bar-hop, this is a great place.

I paid for two nights in an AirBNB within the RLD itself. Amsterdam is not cheap. I knew this going in, but wanted the experience of overnighting in the RLD. Having done it once, I don't need to do it again. If you want to tour Amsterdam, recommend looking for AirBNBs in Zaandam or even Utrecht.

By day the RLD is much like the rest of Amsterdam. Fewer girls work in the windows, the crowds are much thinner, and the clink of glasses in the bars isn't so loud. The carillon in de Oude Kerk (The Old Church) can make you think you're somewhere else other than in a bawdy district. Of note, the world's only statue monument to sex workers, "Belle," is right next to de Oude Kerk. When I visited on the eve of Easter weekend, there was an "in memoriam" note to a slain sex worker attached to it. Very sad.

As evening came, the RLD came alive. A shopkeeper near Dollebejinsteeg cautioned me that the women who work after dark may be more of the sharky kind (my words, not his), in part due to the fact that they have to deal with more drunk, less appealing guys on average. He recommended searching for sex workers who worked during the day. Really enjoyed talking to this gentleman. He also works as a tour guide. I bought some souvenir chocolates from him. Figures entwined in lascivious Kama Sutra positions.

Beholden to optics as I am, I wanted to savor the nighttime flair of the RLD. Evening fell and the crowds grew. There were just as many women as men, and parents pushing strollers were not unusual, although it raised my eyebrows. Gaggles of young men hooted and guffawed at the sex workers, which disgusted me. On at least four separate occasions, sex workers yelled and cursed at guys trying to sneak pictures or video of them. One such fellow was cursed out right in front of his tour group. There's really no excuse for not knowing that photographing sex workers is a no-no, but guys do it anyway. I saw one man filming from maybe 25 meters away. I deliberately stepped in front of him to block his camera.

Overall, my sexual experiences were a disappointment. Fifty euro gets you in her door. Think of it that way.

The one bright spot from the night's efforts is that I did get to fondle two of the most beautiful boobs I've ever seen. However, the overall returns on my investment were negative. I would rather just give several really sexy girls whom I couldn't take my eyes off of 10 euro tips and give them a smile than try to find a GFE for 100 euro here. I'm sure the locals do far better than the tourists, and I'm sure that better deals can be had in Amsterdam's other RLDs (de Singelgebied and de Pijp), but I would require a return trip to try to test this out.

Oh, there were hotties out there, all right. Loads of them. How in the world was I to decide? First there was a cutie in Dollebegijnsteeg. Then I pushed on and found another in Stoofsteeg; a lady with mountainous (Huge) boobs on the main Achterburgwal, and then I saw Anna a few windows up and I was hooked. Drop dead freaking gorgeous. I made a circuit up to the Black Tiger Bar and checked out the little "basement" area just north of it. I circled back and Anna was still there. The door opened.

She led me to a back room and instructed me to just yank my pants down. At this point I was only out the original 50 euro. My memory has already gone fuzzy, but it was clear that I wasn't going to get anything like a GFE. Not even a quarter GFE. She was pleasant, not cold or unfriendly, but like an airline that has learned to market every extra inch of legroom on a flight, Anna had learned the upselling technique to the hilt.

I knew I could get taken. I figured it was like generals who are willing to sacrifice troops to gain Intel about how to fight a bigger, better war machine. In my case the strategy has become clear: don't engage.

Oh, sure, if you threw 400 euros at these ladies, you might get everything you wanted, but why do it in the Amsterdam RLD when German FKK clubs are a short train ride away?

So, back to Anna. Goddess-level good looks. I think she quoted me a price for a blow job that was an eye-opener, which I refused. She probed me, trying to find my sales point. I think I mentioned I really liked foreplay, but that probably didn't even register. I forked over another 50 euro for her to take her top off. I played with her tits, which were magnificent. I asked if I could kiss them, and she refused. She gave me a line that she had a tanning product on that wouldn't taste good.

Supposedly the extra 50 would get me a lap dance, but I've had far better experiences in the booths in American strip clubs. It was like those mechanical pony rides that children begged their parents to put a quarter into so they could feel the motion for a minute.

She told me threesomes were a possibility, going for a drink, etc. But at this point I was just so crestfallen at all the false summits that I called it quits when the timer went off (which was probably set to 15 minutes). I pulled my pants up and she hosed down the vinyl mattress with disinfectant.

No air kisses at the door. Just the memory of some damned fine tits.

I decided to give it one more go. I returned to Stoofsteeg and found a lady who seemed to have a good look in her eye. I opened with asking for a quote for how much for sex for one hour.

Three hundred euros, came the reply.

Gulp.

I eventually agreed to sex for 30 min for 150. I washed myself in the sink and she (Andra) touched me, and we chatted for a bit. She was working on getting me hard, but nothing was happening. It was just awkward, not being able to kiss her, the tension of the clock, etc. I tried wanking myself to erection. Nothing. She tried it. Zero. (And why is it some women think the way to get a guy hard is to yank on the schwanz like she's trying to uproot weeds in the garden? Kissing would work so much better, but of course that's more money. If it's on the menu at all.).

Finally I agreed to change the plans. A blow job (with her top off, even. Whoopee) but no sex. She succeeded in getting me hard by sucking me, which felt good. -Quite good.

But then she started this (excuse me) asinine technique of sucking / blowing for 4-5 slurps, and then she would break off and go back to wanking for 30 seconds or so. Breaking the rhythm like that without any chance of coming was a deal-killer for me.

Again, she was pleasant, no coldness, but I left with no pop and a lot lighter in the wallet with nothing to show for it except newfound wisdom.

Bottom line: Amsterdam RLD is a great party atmosphere with some very hot women, and I believe a good sexual time can be had there. But I'm sure it takes time, patience, and practice.

I must say, I have had significantly better sex in Park 118 for 65 Euros than what you described. Yes the girls are a notch lower but the experience 10 fold better.

You seem to like the same things as me (kissing a truely beautiful woman), so I put in some effort to give you a better chance next time.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Had my first taste of the Amsterdam Red Light District last year and wanted to come back. Bottom line: bring euros. Lots of euros. [/QUOTE]You might as well RTFF. I wrote on this, e. G. Post 2043 but there are older ones as well.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]As evening came, the RLD came alive. A shopkeeper near Dollebejinsteeg cautioned me that the women who work after dark may be more of the sharky kind [/QUOTE]So true but there are exceptions.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Beholden to optics as I am, [/QUOTE]Me too.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I saw one man filming from maybe 25 meters away. I deliberately stepped in front of him to block his camera.[/QUOTE]Bravo! I did things like that. But beware. There are groups of especially English (drinking tour) and Dutch people (bachelor party from the country boys) that might take offense.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Overall, my sexual experiences were a disappointment. Fifty euro gets you in her door. Think of it that way.[/QUOTE]So true. You must do two things: tell that you will come to work here for a year or so. Next ask for half an hour. If that means 100 euro, then it will be OK. I did this so many times. In +500 sessions it failed once with a newby Hungarian a long time ago.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]The one bright spot from the night's efforts is that I did get to fondle two of the most beautiful boobs I've ever seen. [/QUOTE]That was what you were looking for, wasn't it? Not too bad.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]try to find a GFE for 100 euro here. [/QUOTE]In daytime maybe, but even then 200 for 1 hour is a safer option for GFE.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I'm sure the locals do far better than the tourists, [/QUOTE]Very true. But it's not about tourists. It's about a possible repeat. A girl needs a few regulars to give her an 'income plan'. I talked it over with a few girls and they really count with 'so many regulars to be expected this week' and the 'extra at random guys' But she has to work for those, compete with colleagues. Again, tell her you are starting work here for a year or so. You will be a possible repeat customer for her. And daytime will generally get you nicer girls but not always.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]and I'm sure that better deals can be had in Amsterdam's other RLDs (de Singelgebied and de Pijp),[/QUOTE]Het Singelgebied is very much hit or miss and very, very few beauties. That is what you wanted? Or not? De Pijp seems to be almost dead when I go there every so often. It depressed me, so I don't go there more often than a few times a year. Last one was a few months ago, around 20:00 on Thursday: empty.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Oh, there were hotties out there, all right. Loads of them. How in the world was I to decide? First there was a cutie in Dollebegijnsteeg. Then I pushed on and found another in Stoofsteeg; a lady with mountainous (Huge) boobs on the main Achterburgwal, and then I saw Anna a few windows up and I was hooked. Drop dead freaking gorgeous. I made a circuit up to the Black Tiger Bar and checked out the little "basement" area just north of it. I circled back and Anna was still there. The door opened.[/QUOTE]If you keep on walking, cruising the windows again and again then you might be one of two kinds: customer waiting for his favourite girl to appear or an indecisive person. The first one is popular, because it is a repeat customer and girls like to snatch him from their colleague. The second one is 'fair prey'. If a girl opens the door without my initiative I move on. It is a bad sign. But you had your drop dead gorgeous woman. Not too bad. I you go to FKK Germany you will not find this kind of beauty. Or they are busy all the time and you still don't see them. But I find the top beauties of Amsterdam to be well above the top beauties in FKK Germany.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]She led me to a back room and instructed me to just yank my pants down.[/QUOTE]I would have run. If a girl doesn't undress. If she doesn't politely wait for you to undress fully, then take a runner. An MO you might try: put the money on the table and not give it to her. If she then starts like this, you just get your money from the table and leave. I did something like that once: grabbed the money from her hands when she started to ask stupid questions. She may be surprised still. I went to another girl, shared the story and laughed about it with her. The nice girls don't like the sharky ones as well!

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Oh, sure, if you threw 400 euros at these ladies, you might get everything you wanted, but why do it in the Amsterdam RLD [/QUOTE]Absolutely not true. They will give their standard service for the money. If they like you they will give you much more but that happened only twice to me.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]when German FKK clubs are a short train ride away?[/QUOTE]Not so short to me. And to be honest, the service I get in RLD Amsterdam is better than in most FKK's in Germany.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Supposedly the extra 50 would get me a lap dance[/QUOTE]Better not to give extra's for extra services. Pay for her time and be strict about it. Paying for extra's is called 'Pezen' in Holland (a very derogatory expression) and you will pay a lot for almost nothing. However in negotiating BEFORE the session you can ask for anal or some other service you like.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]She told me threesomes were a possibility[/QUOTE]Threesomes in RLD? A sure sign she sees you as 'fair prey'. Even in FKK Germany I decline unless I already had a session with one of them and that one is to vouch for the other. They never offer me threesomes when they can have me one-on-one.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I pulled my pants up and she hosed down the vinyl mattress with disinfectant.[/QUOTE]Yikes. So sorry for you.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]No air kisses at the door. Just the memory of some damned fine tits.[/QUOTE]In Holland you get three kisses at the door. You kiss her cheeks. Insist on them. They will at least know that you are familiar with the custom.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I decided to give it one more go. I returned to Stoofsteeg and found a lady who seemed to have a good look in her eye. I opened with asking for a quote for how much for sex for one hour.[/QUOTE]That is a good question!

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Three hundred euros, came the reply.[/QUOTE]That is the wrong answer. Anything above 200 euros is a sure sign of a shark lady.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Gulp.[/QUOTE]The right answer. Bravo.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I eventually agreed to sex for 30 min for 150. [/QUOTE]The wrong answer. It should be 100.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Kissing would work so much better, but of course that's more money. If it's on the menu at all.).[/QUOTE]In all those years I had it twice. Don't look for kissing in Amsterdam, or be a 20-something GOD. But even then only few ladies will kiss you. Did you look at other people roaming the streets in RLD? Would you like to kiss them? For kissing go to FKK Germany (even there it is not always on the menu, especially if you want a beauty) or a brothel with ladies above 30 yo. Or fatties etc.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Finally I agreed to change the plans. A blow job (with her top off, even. Whoopee) but no sex. She succeeded in getting me hard by sucking me, which felt good. -Quite good.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you paid but here is another tip for you. Agree on 100 euro for half an hour or any multiple of that ratio. Start putting off your clothes. Pay her when you are fully naked. But if she is still in her bikini or whatever, put your clothes on and leave. Find a lady in another street as the word will go fast. I only had to do a thing like that in FKK Germany (a withdrawn promise for kissing). But you can do it in Amsterdam as well. Just don't go to that street anymore for a few months.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]But then she started this (excuse me) asinine technique of sucking / blowing for 4-5 slurps, and then she would break off and go back to wanking for 30 seconds or so. Breaking the rhythm like that without any chance of coming was a deal-killer for me.[/QUOTE]A very common technique. Found often in Amsterdam but even more in FKK Germany. Tell her it puts you off and ask her to take larger intervals. But you are at her mercy once she touched your dick. No more money back or anything.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Again, she was pleasant, no coldness, but I left with no pop and a lot lighter in the wallet with nothing to show for it except newfound wisdom.[/QUOTE]Still not sure about what you paid but 100 euro shou'd have gotten you suck and fuck for half an hour. She seemed to have treated you as 'fair prey' but pleasingly. That is too little.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Bottom line: Amsterdam RLD is a great party atmosphere with some very hot women, and I believe a good sexual time can be had there. But I'm sure it takes time, patience, and practice.[/QUOTE]I wrote much more concise about this. My post is nr 2043. If you had read that one, you might have had a much better experience. I mentioned the two girls I had best experiences with recently. I might go bankrupt because of Liana. Haven't tried anyone else anymore because of her. And it is always 200 euros for 1 hour. And maybe chocolates, no money. Liana will move to 'Oude kennissteeg' next week for a bigger room.

DioRetz, thank you for the fantastic feedback on the Amsterdam RLD. It seems we have had some different experiences at German FKKs. Feel free to read my two recent reports. Links below. My experiences there are limited, being able to visit from the USA only once a year, but kissing has usually been offered in FKKs without my asking. I'm surprised kissing is that rare in the Amsterdam RLD, and that's kind of a disincentive for me to return. I do like foreplay, caressing, intimacy, pillow talk.

I had one previous taste of the RLD last year. It was a Monday about 9 pm; things were quiet--nothing like the throngs I encountered this trip on Thursday & Friday nights. Found a very lovely lady who turned out to be from Albania. Paid fifty euros, she immediately took her top off, lay on the bed, and it was a good quick session. Amsterdam is so much fun and I love the RLD vibe. Wish I could get there more often.

You mentioned using a line with the ladies that you're starting work there for a year. If I could find a job in Netherlands or Germany I'd move from USA in a heartbeat. No family or kids to keep me here. As is the problem with most Americans, however, I'm essentially mono-lingual. I speak a smattering of German but not enough to have a real conversation. I'm more than willing to learn but suspect it may not be enough to get hired. I have to look more into this in depth.

Thanks again for all the tips and info.

LivingRoom:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2593-SC-Sauna-Club-Living-Room-Kaarst&p=2314234&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2314234.

Sixsens:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3769-FKK-Sixsens&p=2314223&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2314223.

Anybody into african escorts in Amsterdam? Would like to get some recommendations for a Hotel visit.

Any experience with that one? Looks great.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/africanfantasy009/87427/[/URL]

Thanks in advance.

The 118 Club was easy to get to and find. Take the #4 tram (3.40 Euros ) from central station or downtown and it lets you off around the corner one block from the brothel. Went in and was presented only 3 girls. Two were a bit too chunky, and one, brunette Ana, was nice, but not what I was really looking for. I wanted a natural European blonde beauty. I selected Ana, as choices were limited, but during the discussion of "extras" she said she would not allow fingering, which is my requirement. So she amicably left, and asked the other girls who would do that, and to my great delight, one Jenna showed up, absent from the first roundup. This girl was just what the doctor ordered. Tall, striking, Dutch, slender, natural blonde beauty. She had the most amazing natural tits, perfect ass, sweet face. She said she was 22, and spoke perfect English. Made me use a condom for the fingers, which diminished the experience by about 20%, but was still nice. I could look, spread, caress the outside of the pussy and anus bare fingered, but deeply penetrated her sweet pink pussy only with condomed fingers. She was amazingly beautiful, did I mention that? However, her attitude was a bit aloof. She was personable, permissive to the limits agreed upon, but somewhat unenthusiastic. Also, she got up three times to wash her hands. I believe in hygiene, but it was somewhat disruptive of the mood. I would have appreciated more enthusiasm, but given the rare experience in its totality, I could accept that. Cost: 80 Euros for 45 minutes, 60 Euros for extras (light kissing and fingering). There is a 10% surcharge for credit card.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2317574] I'm surprised kissing is that rare in the Amsterdam RLD, and that's kind of a disincentive for me to return. I do like foreplay, caressing, intimacy, pillow talk.[/QUOTE]That is hard to find in RLD Amsterdam.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2317574]I had one previous taste of the RLD last year. It was a Monday about 9 pm; things were quiet--nothing like the throngs I encountered this trip on Thursday & Friday nights. Found a very lovely lady who turned out to be from Albania. Paid fifty euros, she immediately took her top off, lay on the bed, and it was a good quick session. Amsterdam is so much fun and I love the RLD vibe. Wish I could get there more often.[/QUOTE]Mondays are quiet. Perfect time to try your luck.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2317574]You mentioned using a line with the ladies that you're starting work there for a year. If I could find a job in Netherlands or Germany I'd move from USA in a heartbeat. No family or kids to keep me here. As is the problem with most Americans, however, I'm essentially mono-lingual. I speak a smattering of German but not enough to have a real conversation. I'm more than willing to learn but suspect it may not be enough to get hired. I have to look more into this in depth.[/QUOTE]Near the RLD there is an ice cream shop. Quite often I do have to order in English there. But it wouldn't get you a salary for an expensive hobby. However, if you have skills in ICT, even more so telecom then you can find a job here, speaking no Dutch at all. Amsterdam, Utrecht and Leiden are university cities and many people there do not speak Dutch. A few houses from my home there is a Russian working in software developing in telecom. He speaks Russian and English. If you work in finance there should be possibilities too. In Holland everyone speaks English but we socialise in Dutch! In Germany most people from 40 and younger speak English. I do think that Berlin is much the same as Holland.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314234]LivingRoom:[/QUOTE]Nice report I should go there once. But every time I make plans, something else comes up or they work on the railroads etc.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314223]Sixsens:[/QUOTE]Good report. Just the reasons why I stopped going to Sixsens. If you plan on going back there, lie down in the Oriental room for half an hour. Might bring you a nice surprise but not always.

I read about your planning a visit to GT. You might do so but I stopped going there and spend time in Samya. To me Samya is much the same as GT used to be a few years ago with a vibrant party atmosphere as an extra. I visit Artemis every now and then because of my love for Berlin.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2317574]
You mentioned using a line with the ladies that you're starting work there for a year. If I could find a job in Netherlands or Germany I'd move from USA in a heartbeat. No family or kids to keep me here. As is the problem with most Americans, however, I'm essentially mono-lingual. I speak a smattering of German but not enough to have a real conversation. I'm more than willing to learn but suspect it may not be enough to get hired. I have to look more into this in depth.
[/QUOTE]Are you a member of LinkedIn? The majority of the vacancies is posted there. And as DioRetz already said: Dutch isn't always required.

I am doing som research for Asian massage parlours in Amsterdam. I mean full body massage with BBBJCIM (Probably not a surprise). Will pay back with a report. Thanks!

I'll be in town next week for two days. I'm in my late 30's, Chinese, little overweight. I'm usually into the cute young petite type of girl. Other than FS, I require BBBJ. I'd like to keep the price below 130 EUR for 30,180 EUR for HR. I only speak English and am only available in the daytime. Ideally, the girl would be a local. I visit many countries and try to see a local at each country. Kind of like checking off a list.

From reading parts of this thread, I'm not sure if I should try a window girl, club, or escort. With the window girl, at least I know who I'm getting, but it seems this is where I have the highest probability of getting a poor / lazy service. At a club, I can choose the girl too but there is less selection and harder to negotiate (I don't know what is "standard" I can try an escort and try to negotiate beforehand, but who know who I will get. Getting older, it is harder for me to keep things going if the girl doesn't do her job. For example, I read about girls that decide to take breaks jury a BJ and stop the rhythm. That is definitely something that would ruin the experience for me.

Or I could skip all of this and wait for my next trip to a FKK.

A big shout to mogwai for going out pf his way to help fellow mongers!

Maastricht: very pretty and very dry. None of the searches revealed anything substantial. Walked around the town, was approached by pimps near VOdafone. My gut told me to avoid. So no results. There is stuff, but risky.

Amsterdam: was short so went to the oft recommended 118. Great GFE session with Roxana, a tall black with a stunning body. Paid extra 40 for kissing (no younger) and enjoyed it.

Then a visit here not complete without the rld, somewhere a mongers tick mark. So went in for a quick blow.

Enjoy and thanks Mogwai again!

[QUOTE=TomHardy223;2320441]A big shout to mogwai for going out pf his way to help fellow mongers![/QUOTE]Thanks, you're welcome!

[QUOTE=Enphl;2320394]I'll be in town next week for two days. I'm in my late 30's, Chinese, little overweight. I'm usually into the cute young petite type of girl. Other than FS, I require BBBJ. I'd like to keep the price below 130 EUR for 30,180 EUR for HR. I only speak English and am only available in the daytime. Ideally, the girl would be a local. I visit many countries and try to see a local at each country. Kind of like checking off a list.

From reading parts of this thread, I'm not sure if I should try a window girl, club, or escort. With the window girl, at least I know who I'm getting, but it seems this is where I have the highest probability of getting a poor / lazy service. At a club, I can choose the girl too but there is less selection and harder to negotiate (I don't know what is "standard" I can try an escort and try to negotiate beforehand, but who know who I will get. Getting older, it is harder for me to keep things going if the girl doesn't do her job. For example, I read about girls that decide to take breaks jury a BJ and stop the rhythm. That is definitely something that would ruin the experience for me.
[/QUOTE]BBBJ is available from some of the window and club / private house girls, but they are usually not the cute young petite types. And certainly not Dutch.

Best try your luck with an advanced search at Kinky:

Click on 'Uitgebreid zoeken' at the top of the page.

Land: Nederland.
Provincie: Noord-Holland.
Plaats: Amsterdam.

Geslacht: Vrouw.
Talen: Nederlands.

Check the box for 'pijpen zonder condoom' (BBBJ).

Click on 'Zoeken'.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2321777]BBBJ is available from some of the window and club / private house girls, but they are usually not the cute young petite types. And certainly not Dutch.

Best try your luck with an advanced search at Kinky:

Click on 'Uitgebreid zoeken' at the top of the page.

Land: Nederland.
Provincie: Noord-Holland.
Plaats: Amsterdam.

Geslacht: Vrouw.
Talen: Nederlands.

Check the box for 'pijpen zonder condoom' (BBBJ).

Click on 'Zoeken'.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I did look on there but I didn't find much. The other issue is that most girls on there seem to want you to call them and my phone can't make calls here.

I may check out the windows and see if I find anyone to my liking but I'm not going to force it. I've had too many bad experiences in my travels because I hoped for something that didn't exist.

Does anyone know of an android app that allows one to make calls / txt with a free NL phone number?

I recall when I went to the UK, I had such an app but I can't remember the name of it or if it supported NL. I would give a free 30 day trial.

Hi guys!

So I've previously gone to Amsterdam 3 times (mostly windows but I enjoyed Park118 the most) and once to Frankfurt and loved all trips. Funny enough I went to Germany the last time cause I wanted to avoid weed and I got to say I loved the FKK more than anything I tried before. But this trip I want to smoke.

So my problem is that I loved the FKK scene in Germany but afaik its illegal to smoke weed down there (I've been offered weed by girls I was with though) But I honestly don't want to go to another country and break their laws by smoking weed there, it just would ruin my high anyway.

Amsterdam I felt is a bit "expensive", girls, hotel, ticket and the food there are much more expensive. So I thought maybe I would try another city in the Netherlands. I'm not much of a window guy and I read a bit about Rotterdam not having windows (I prefer prive / FKKs anyway) so I don't mind going there but I'm having a hard time collecting "information" about where I could find a good place. Do you guys have any advice on any city that has nice girls and good weed? I would really appreciate any help you could provide.

[QUOTE=Momosa;2323182]
Amsterdam I felt is a bit "expensive", girls, hotel, ticket and the food there are much more expensive. So I thought maybe I would try another city in the Netherlands. I'm not much of a window guy and I read a bit about Rotterdam not having windows (I prefer prive / FKKs anyway) so I don't mind going there but I'm having a hard time collecting "information" about where I could find a good place. Do you guys have any advice on any city that has nice girls and good weed? I would really appreciate any help you could provide.[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about good weed, but I guess there are other websites where you can find information on that subject.

You might want to try Den Haag (The Hague). Rotterdam is mainly known for its concentration of dubious Eastern European 'freelancers' who hunt for customers online and give lousy service.

See the thread 'The Hague' in this forum for more information.

[QUOTE=Enphl;2323063]Does anyone know of an android app that allows one to make calls / txt with a free NL phone number?

I recall when I went to the UK, I had such an app but I can't remember the name of it or if it supported NL. I would give a free 30 day trial.[/QUOTE]Try "Hushed".

[QUOTE=Enphl;2323063]Does anyone know of an android app that allows one to make calls / txt with a free NL phone number?

I recall when I went to the UK, I had such an app but I can't remember the name of it or if it supported NL. I would give a free 30 day trial.[/QUOTE]As previously mentioned "Hushed" is good, also there is an app called "Burner" if "Hushed" didn't work.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2324503]I don't know anything about good weed, but I guess there are other websites where you can find information on that subject.

You might want to try Den Haag (The Hague). Rotterdam is mainly known for its concentration of dubious Eastern European 'freelancers' who hunt for customers online and give lousy service.

See the thread 'The Hague' in this forum for more information.[/QUOTE]I second that, Rotterdam is a bit of hit or miss situation.

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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2324503]I don't know anything about good weed, but I guess there are other websites where you can find information on that subject.

You might want to try Den Haag (The Hague). Rotterdam is mainly known for its concentration of dubious Eastern European 'freelancers' who hunt for customers online and give lousy service.

See the thread 'The Hague' in this forum for more information.[/QUOTE]Yeah I just thanks for that . I got to say I found a lot of prais towards Den haag once I checked it out. It definitely looks better than Rotterdam. Guess I now know where I'm going. Thanks!

There will be a nationwide public transport strike on May 28th. This means you won't be able to catch a bus or train to and from Schiphol Airport (or anywhere else in the country) next Tuesday.

However the airport is preparing a lawsuit against this strike, so maybe the strikers will have to make an exception for Schiphol. I will keep you posted.

[URL]https://www.ns.nl/en/travel-information/calamities/28th-may-industrial-action.html[/URL]

The judge has decided there must run 4 trains per hour between Hoofddorp and Amsterdam Central, via the airport. So this is good news for those arriving at or going to the airport this Tuesday. However be aware that 4 trains is much less than usual and you won't be able to go anywhere else in Holland. Not by public transport anyway.

I will travel a few days to Amsterdam, can someone recommend a good site, or agency? I will be in the Jordaan area.

Hi guys,

First time in Amsterdam and I'm staying at a hotel in the De Wallen area. I scouted almost all the streets of the area to scout some talent last night.

Current trend:

50 for one service (Sex without touch / CBJ+HJ finish).

100 for one full service (Sex with CBJ and girl will be naked).

Time limit for both: 20 minutes.

I'm a GFE seeker hence sex didn't appeal me at the RLD for any of the other prices so I settled for a CBJ experience.

It was decent. The girl was a Bulgarian named Alde and I found her near the De Oude Kerk.

Mind you this is a mechanical experience so don't keep your hopes really high.

Although, I found some of the girls as absolute stunners.

Will try Park 118 soon.

Cheers and thanks for all the knowledge after I RTFF.

[QUOTE=WankerBoy;2332461]
Current trend:
50 for one service (Sex without touch / CBJ+HJ finish).
100 for one full service (Sex with CBJ and girl will be naked).
[/QUOTE]Unfortunately these prices seem to be the norm now at the Wallen (even for locals!), especially in the evening when there are many tourists in the RLD. €50 for a CBJ and €100 for CBJ and CFS.
In the daytime chances are higher that you can find CBJ and CFS for only €50. But the quality of the girls is higher in the evening than in the daytime. The quality of their looks anyway.

If you want it (much) cheaper: go to the Achterdam in Alkmaar. Standard price for CBJ and CFS is only €35 there. Roundtrip by train is €16.

I was having a good vacation in Amsterdam but tonight was a terrible experience. Firstly, Park 118 trip was a failure since the lineup was of only 3 average girls.

Secondly, I was at Dollebegijnensteeg (De Wallen area of RLD) and the I bumped into the last girl towards the canal and she was a stunner.

She was tall, said that she is Dutch and has been in the industry from the past 7 years. She was wearing a black bra.

Now, as per my last post I was getting CBJ + HBJ for 50 for the past 2 nights.

After entering and paying the money, the girl told me to sit on the high table, put my arms behind the chair and told me that she won't give me CBJ unless I'm completely hard. 50 was only the entry charge.

So, to be completely hard for the CBJ, she will take 150 for touching, lap dance and HBJ so that she can turn me ON for the CBJ. She was so hot that I decided to give her 150 more.

Now, she told me that her internet is not working so she cannot play music to give me a lap dance and said my internet won't work. I realized that this girl has scammed me.

I let the game continue so see what are the exact tactics.

She asked me that what do I like, her boobs or her ass. I said boobs and she showed me her boobs. She changed the rule that it is either boob show or lap dance and I was still not hard after the former. Everything else follows if I'm completely hard.

She said after that she will charge 100 more and if I argue or anything then she will kick me out.

I just stormed out as 15 out of the 20 minutes were over and this girl had scammed me anyways.

Looks like my mongering days are over. Thailand is much better where I could have got a PSE with 200.

Are there any clubs you would recommend that have some mix of FL girls or generally hot girls? Like somewhere the FL would go if they want to go out?

I am thinking something that gets as close to Levels / Bangkok, CJ Bar / Jakarta, Brix / Singapore or similar. Assume there is nothing like it directly but anything that comes closest I take.

Hello!

I'm going to be traveling in the Netherlands for two weeks in August. I'm staying in Abcoude, but my plan is to take regular trips into Amsterdam, so I'm looking for some recommendation of places to go for a good time. Thank you!

There are simply four scenarios, Halsema outlines. Scenario one is to keep the curtains of the window brothels permanently closed. "Sex workers and their workplaces are no longer visible from the street. The number of windows can be equal to or less than the current number of 330. ".

Scenario two concerns fewer window brothels in the city center due to relocation. Part of the windows in the city center will then be closed. New workplaces are created at another location in Amsterdam. They can be windows, but you don't have to. "The creation of a prostitution hotel is also possible. ".

The third scenario is the complete closure of window brothels in the Red Light District and around the Singel. New workplaces will then be created in another part of the city. That can be windows, but also the "prostitution hotel".

The final scenario is: expand the current number of window brothels in the Red Light District and around the Singel to more workplaces. "They can be windows, but they don't have to. " The re-establishment of the "prostitution hotel" is also mentioned.

Copied and Google translated from [URL]https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/177283329/halsema-onderzoekt-sluiting-amsterdamse-wallen[/URL].

Avoiding the red light district and escorts. Can somebody advise on bars that have working women or bordelles?

Does anyone actually go there to monger? It sounds like a touristy ripoff.

Nevertheless, I hope it stays. We need decoys to stop people from taking over the real spots.

[QUOTE=WankerBoy;2333150]I was having a good vacation in Amsterdam but tonight was a terrible experience. Firstly, Park 118 trip was a failure since the lineup was of only 3 average girls.

Secondly, I was at Dollebegijnensteeg (De Wallen area of RLD) and the I bumped into the last girl towards the canal and she was a stunner.

She was tall, said that she is Dutch and has been in the industry from the past 7 years. She was wearing a black bra.

Now, as per my last post I was getting CBJ + HBJ for 50 for the past 2 nights.

After entering and paying the money, the girl told me to sit on the high table, put my arms behind the chair and told me that she won't give me CBJ unless I'm completely hard. 50 was only the entry charge.

So, to be completely hard for the CBJ, she will take 150 for touching, lap dance and HBJ so that she can turn me ON for the CBJ. She was so hot that I decided to give her 150 more.

Now, she told me that her internet is not working so she cannot play music to give me a lap dance and said my internet won't work. I realized that this girl has scammed me.

I let the game continue so see what are the exact tactics.

She asked me that what do I like, her boobs or her ass. I said boobs and she showed me her boobs. She changed the rule that it is either boob show or lap dance and I was still not hard after the former. Everything else follows if I'm completely hard.

She said after that she will charge 100 more and if I argue or anything then she will kick me out.

I just stormed out as 15 out of the 20 minutes were over and this girl had scammed me anyways.

Looks like my mongering days are over. Thailand is much better where I could have got a PSE with 200.[/QUOTE]AY if you're serious, this sounds really really painful. I've been ripped off with shit service in Frankfurt a number of times, but it never got worse than 20. 50 once.

Honestly, even 50 for 20 is imo way too much to start with.

[QUOTE=WankerBoy;2333150]I was having a good vacation in Amsterdam but tonight was a terrible experience. Firstly, Park 118 trip was a failure since the lineup was of only 3 average girls.

Secondly, I was at Dollebegijnensteeg (De Wallen area of RLD) and the I bumped into the last girl towards the canal and she was a stunner.

She was tall, said that she is Dutch and has been in the industry from the past 7 years. She was wearing a black bra.

Now, as per my last post I was getting CBJ + HBJ for 50 for the past 2 nights.

After entering and paying the money, the girl told me to sit on the high table, put my arms behind the chair and told me that she won't give me CBJ unless I'm completely hard. 50 was only the entry charge.

So, to be completely hard for the CBJ, she will take 150 for touching, lap dance and HBJ so that she can turn me ON for the CBJ. She was so hot that I decided to give her 150 more..[/QUOTE]I am sorry to hear this, Amsterdam is famous for its scams. But shit happens man so keep your head up and keep on mongering. If you are still in the Netherlands, take a train to den haag and go to this place:

Doublestraat*35/15 min this is the price I paid a few weeks a go. If any of them ask for more just walk to next window.

If you want some better looking girls go to this street Geleenstraat & Hunsestraat (in the old town)*50/15 min, again 50 euro is max for CBJ and sex.

They offer BBBJ for a 20 euro extra that is up too you.

If you need more info just post here I'll help out as much as I can.

Hey Man,

I found your inputs impressive, do you also have some tips for Amsterdam as well.

Last time I found a good girl in RLD at Dam, but I won't be lucky again.

Let me know if I should try Spui Red light? Or any any other club where I can find an indie or a WG?

Do share your advice bro.

[QUOTE=ANewTravler;2343612]I am sorry to hear this, Amsterdam is famous for its scams. But shit happens man so keep your head up and keep on mongering. If you are still in the Netherlands, take a train to den haag and go to this place:

Doublestraat*35/15 min this is the price I paid a few weeks a go. If any of them ask for more just walk to next window.

If you want some better looking girls go to this street Geleenstraat & Hunsestraat (in the old town)*50/15 min, again 50 euro is max for CBJ and sex.

They offer BBBJ for a 20 euro extra that is up too you.

If you need more info just post here I'll help out as much as I can.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pppez80;2336485]Are there any clubs you would recommend that have some mix of FL girls or generally hot girls? Like somewhere the FL would go if they want to go out?
I am thinking something that gets as close to Levels / Bangkok, CJ Bar / Jakarta, Brix / Singapore or similar. Assume there is nothing like it directly but anything that comes closest I take.[/QUOTE]Generally hot girls are everywhere in Holland but as far as I know 99.99% of them are not working girls, let alone they are hunting for customers in clubs.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;2343606]
Honestly, even 50 for 20 is imo way too much to start with.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ANewTravler;2343612]
If you want some better looking girls go to this street Geleenstraat & Hunsestraat (in the old town)*50/15 min, again 50 euro is max for CBJ and sex.
[/QUOTE]Actually 50 euro for 15-20 minutes is not too much or the max, it's the normal price at the Wallen in Amsterdam and Geleenstraat & Hunsestraat in Den Haag.
Only old and / or less attractive women might be available for less.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2343856]Actually 50 euro for 15-20 minutes is not too much or the max, it's the normal price at the Wallen in Amsterdam and Geleenstraat & Hunsestraat in Den Haag.
Only old and / or less attractive women might be available for less.[/QUOTE]I am local and I have been asked to pay 100 euro in Amsterdam, what do you think they will ask of foreigners. But to be fair I mostly go den haag and pay 35 euro.

It doesn't matter to Me if she is a 5 or 8, the set price is 35 euro and geleenstraat is 50 euro. If they want more talk the price down or check the next window.

Do you have some Amsterdam insights as well?

What to do if you don't want to go to De wallen? Should we try spui or singel canal?

[QUOTE=ANewTravler;2343612]I am sorry to hear this, Amsterdam is famous for its scams. But shit happens man so keep your head up and keep on mongering. If you are still in the Netherlands, take a train to den haag and go to this place:

Doublestraat*35/15 min this is the price I paid a few weeks a go. If any of them ask for more just walk to next window.

If you want some better looking girls go to this street Geleenstraat & Hunsestraat (in the old town)*50/15 min, again 50 euro is max for CBJ and sex.

They offer BBBJ for a 20 euro extra that is up too you.

If you need more info just post here I'll help out as much as I can.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UCantcMeBro;2343881]Do you have some Amsterdam insights as well?

What to do if you don't want to go to De wallen? Should we try spui or singel canal?[/QUOTE]I have not tried any spa's, but I think I can help you. I would suggest to try some priv huizen (casas).

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl[/URL]

[URL]https://penthouseprive.nl/index.php/nl/[/URL]

I haven't been to any of these but they have good review's on local dutch forum, And the girls look nice and professional.

Happy hunting gentleman.

[QUOTE=ANewTravler;2343877]I am local and I have been asked to pay 100 euro in Amsterdam, [/QUOTE]Yes, that's possible. I just noticed that I made two conflicting posts. In post #2099 I said that 100 euro seems to be the norm now at the Wallen for CBJ and CFS (even for locals).
In Geleenstraat & Hunsestraat in Den Haag the norm is still 50 euro.

So let me rephrase my post: 50 euro SHOULD be the norm at the Wallen as well but unfortunately it isn't anymore.

[QUOTE=UCantcMeBro;2343881]Should we try spui or singel canal?[/QUOTE]Yes, you can try the Singel RLD or the Ruysdaelkade RLD. Fewer tourists there. But also fewer (pretty) ladies so YMMV.

So is the consensus to head out towards the border for some German FKK action or Sixsens or is there spots in AMS or say closer to AMS for some action. I've been to AMS at least 6 times in the last 10 years haven't experienced horrible scam girls and RLD have been decent but I like the atmosphere for German FKK, been to Oase and Palace and one in between AMS and FRA.

[QUOTE=MisterNiceGuy;2344308]So is the consensus to head out towards the border for some German FKK action or Sixsens or is there spots in AMS or say closer to AMS for some action. I've been to AMS at least 6 times in the last 10 years haven't experienced horrible scam girls and RLD have been decent but I like the atmosphere for German FKK, been to Oase and Palace and one in between AMS and FRA.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would say either the prive houses or just cross the border for the FKK action.

RDL Amsterdam is no go for me, they ask more for same service in den haag. But hey it is a tourist attraction of some sort.

This is incredible, hahaha I will tell you some thing funny I googled this street and in the street view you could see the girls hahahahahahah.

It got me excited hahahahah.

Thanks again for the tip.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2344231]Yes, you can try the Singel RLD or the Ruysdaelkade RLD. Fewer tourists there. But also fewer (pretty) ladies so YMMV.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MisterNiceGuy;2344308]So is the consensus to head out towards the border for some German FKK action or Sixsens or is there spots in AMS or say closer to AMS for some action.[/QUOTE]Apart from the spots already mentioned there's also the Achterdam in Alkmaar.

I must be getting old I forgot I've been to Golden Time on my way to FRA huge freaking complex. There were tons of girls and some decent too but this was 8 years ago. I am still opting for this over RLD, unless some private house recos come in LOL.

Gronigen might be an option, from what I know of other forums. It has the most good looking RDL girls since it is a big student city.

[QUOTE=Chthonian;2295139]I was recently in Amsterdam for a week and identified Golden Key and Club LV as the top clubs. At my time of life quality is more important than quantity, and money is not the issue it once was. I am looking for classy nightclubs with classy girls. For me line-up brothels and the red light windows are anathema. I spent two evenings at Golden Key and one at Club LV, which both meet my criteria. These two clubs are very similar. Classy and discreet but expensive. Both have clean and comfortable rooms upstairs with bath, shower or jacuzzi.

I like to arrive sober and early (10 - 10.30 pm) so as to relax, see what is going on, and speak to a few girls before selecting a companion for the evening.

Both clubs charge an entry fee of 75 euros which includes three drinks. The girls are not supposed to approach you, so you can take your time. You soon discover that the girls drink only champagne! In GK you can buy a small bottle for 60 euros, with the cheapest full bottle 250. In LV champagne is available only by the full bottle, the cheapest being 360 euros. So treating the girls can quickly get expensive..[/QUOTE]I am heading to Amsterdam next week, and this was exactly the detailed review for which I was looking! I identified Golden Key, Club LV and Asmara as the clubs I most want to visit. I've seen a couple posts on Asmara, but can anyone compare Asmara to the other two? Many thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=ANewTravler;2344647]Gronigen might be an option, from what I know of other forums. It has the most good looking RDL girls since it is a big student city.[/QUOTE]Yes, Groningen (correct spelling) has many students but you won't find them behind the windows in the RLD, LOL!

It haunted me a lot for a week. I have taken a break from mongering. That night gave me loads of learning. If you in AMS, don't go to RLD high af as I was.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;2343606]AY if you're serious, this sounds really really painful. I've been ripped off with shit service in Frankfurt a number of times, but it never got worse than 20. 50 once.

Honestly, even 50 for 20 is imo way too much to start with.[/QUOTE]

I am back in my home country. I think there is nothing better than Thailand in terms of VFM. For 180, I got GFE / PSE / Unlimited Shots for 3 hours in BKK while my immaturity led me to waste 200 just to see boobs at RLD and fall for that scam. Smh.

I will be back in AMS when I have the guts. For now, off to California to fuck some beauties.

[QUOTE=ANewTravler;2343612]I am sorry to hear this, Amsterdam is famous for its scams. But shit happens man so keep your head up and keep on mongering. If you are still in the Netherlands, take a train to den haag and go to this place:

Doublestraat*35/15 min this is the price I paid a few weeks a go. If any of them ask for more just walk to next window.

If you want some better looking girls go to this street Geleenstraat & Hunsestraat (in the old town)*50/15 min, again 50 euro is max for CBJ and sex.

They offer BBBJ for a 20 euro extra that is up too you.

If you need more info just post here I'll help out as much as I can.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Birddog9;2344820]I am heading to Amsterdam next week, and this was exactly the detailed review for which I was looking! I identified Golden Key, Club LV and Asmara as the clubs I most want to visit. I've seen a couple posts on Asmara, but can anyone compare Asmara to the other two? Many thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Thanks Birddog! You have encouraged me to do further reports. Have fun in Amsterdam. I look forward to hearing what you make of Asmara.

Where should I go if I'm looking something similar to German FKK or club experience? I want to see girls who I'm dealing with first and not arrange anything on phone. Will be there in few weeks.

I'm going to be traveling to Amsterdam next week and was looking to see if anyone's had any experience with Pleasure-escort. NL and if it was positive or negative. Also any other thoughts on the midrange escort services (160/ hour) places. SS and Upclass are what I've been looking at but wanted to know the other options to make my money go further.

Also if people have had any luck with Goldenangels. I've tried emailing 2 girls and gotten no responses. Thanks for any and all help!

What are the best options in Amsterdam for a reliable erotic massage with HJ (not FS)? The more romantic and sensual, the better (and obviously the more attractive provider the better). I do not mind paying near FS prices. Is the best option something like Park 118? Would prefer Dutch provider but that is not necessary.

Have some good info to share with my fellow Amsterdam mongers. There are plenty of low and medium priced escort agencies using shady tactics like bait and switch. Dollhouse for example promises really hot escorts for low prices. I did a google image search, nearly all the Dollhouse pics are from Instagram models or porn stars who have nothing to do with escorting. Same thing with some of the girls on "amsterdamhotcallgirls". The pictures for "Yazmin" appear to have been stolen from a fitness model who has nothing to do with escorting. Always remember google reverse image search is your friend. It can help you evaluate the trustworthiness of escorts by revealing if they were stolen from other people. And if something seems too good to be true, it most likely is! Be careful out there guys! At best, you will end up disappointed having to settle with someone not at all like the pics, at worst you might be robbed or even physically harmed dealing with sketchy escort agencies!

[QUOTE=TetCorp;2353853]I'm going to be traveling to Amsterdam next week and was looking to see if anyone's had any experience with Pleasure-escort. NL and if it was positive or negative. Also any other thoughts on the midrange escort services (160/ hour) places. SS and Upclass are what I've been looking at but wanted to know the other options to make my money go further.

Also if people have had any luck with Goldenangels. I've tried emailing 2 girls and gotten no responses. Thanks for any and all help![/QUOTE]Hi TetCorp,

Low and mid price range escorts are definitely hit or miss (mostly miss). Unfortunately, there are plenty of low and medium priced escort agencies using shady tactics like bait and switch. I would definitely avoid Dollhouse. I did a google image search, nearly all the Dollhouse pics are from Instagram models or porn stars who have nothing to do with escorting. Always remember google reverse image search is your friend. It can help you evaluate the trustworthiness of escorts by revealing if they were stolen from other people. Be careful out there guys! At best, you will end up disappointed, at worst you could be robbed when dealing with a shady escort service.

I've done a fair few lookup of this particular girls photo and can't find anything that links to other websites, do you think it's safe to go with this girl?

[URL]https://girlsescortamsterdam.com/escort/nancy/[/URL]

Looking for an escort here in Amsterdam but I'm definitely trying not to get scammed. Even in Canada we have a review board and it's easy to find trustworthy escorts and its not even legal, where its legal here seems so difficult to trust!

Visited De Wallen's windows before and after going to the FKK clubs with my buddy. Experience was largely lackluster, though I did see a few very attractive girls. On my first visit (Friday afternoon-evening), several ugly girls were shouting "Baby Baby come here" at me and at tourists walking by. A group of tourists was clearly amused and were laughing a lot at the pushy, ugly girls! I saw an Italian lady Bella who asked for 400 euros an hour for a BJ and vanilla sex (only one round of sex, can cum or pull out only once). 400 euros an hour is more than what most high end escorts charge per hour (usually 300-350 euros an hour)! Up close in person, she was nowhere near as attractive as at a distance! She had very obvious lip injections / botox. I just walked out the door without sessioning with Bella, had something to eat and came back to the windows in another hour. Afterwards, I saw a very hot Serbian girl named Andillina on Annastrat that I would call a "stunner". She has long black hair, and is kind of on the tall side, and she had a gorgeous body and very pretty face. She is around 23 years old. Before she told me she was Serbian, I guessed that she was from southern Romania or Bulgaria (close though). She spoke very good English with a really cute accent. I went in and sessioned with her! As I entered the window, there were lots of gawking tourists. All the tourists watching kind of ruined the mood LOL, some of them sighed or nodded in disapproval others gave me a thumbs up. Others did not seem to approve or disapprove, but were just gawking at all the working ladies and their customers. She was gorgeous, but her service was very basic with alot of upselling attempts. 100 euros gets you 30 minutes of CBJ and one round of vanilla sex (she originally asked for 150 euros for this). No kissing was allowed, and there are big additional charges for extra positions and fetishes / fantasies. If you cum and want to have sex again during the 30 minute time period you have to pay her another 50 euros. LOL she even tried to charge me another 50 euros for taking her clothes off! How one has sex with their clothes on is beyond me! That is a really strange concept! She even was rushing me to get my clothes back on after my session was over and said "time is money in this business". Session was overall ok, being really hot kind of made up for the lackluster service (damage= about 150 euros, 100 euros for 30 minutes CBJ and one round of vanilla sex, another 50 euros to have sex and cum again in the half hour time period).

Early this week I visited De Wallen for a second time and visited Singel. Around noon time almost all the girls in both areas were ugly, none were hot or even cute. Singel was much worse than De Wallen was in terms of optics during the day time! The really ugly girls did get some customers who were probably intoxicated. When I came back to De Wallen at night, there were some attractive looking providers. I did not return to Singel at night. The Serbian was not at De Wallen though, if she was there I probably would have sessioned with her a second time! I looked for her! Did not have any good sessions this time either at De Wallen! There were even more gawking tourists at night, which ruined the mood even more!

I can see why most serious punters skip the De Wallen windows on their mongering trips. There are some hot girls and even a few stunners in the windows, but I would say 50-70% of the window girls are less attractive than the normal girls walking on the street LOL (percentage dependent on the time of day)! Service is rushed and very mechanical with many upselling attempts, and all the tourists watching (and the security cameras) makes me so self conscious! I prefer discretion, which is why I would rather do FKK (most people there are mongers and not gawking tourists), dutch sex club (like Amarsa or LV), or high end escorts (just meet in hotel)! I don't like rushing or sharky behavior either! I'm not coming back to see any Amsterdam window girls on this trip, and probably not again in my life! There are better options out there for sure.

De wallen has been ruined by tourism.

It is hard to find a good girl there. Last year I found one she was from Greece, very kind not a time watcher.

I had a session with her, no upselling at all. In fact after that we shared a sandwich too LOL.

We spoke for a bit and then I promised I would return next year to visit her. I hope I get to see her again this September.

But 99% girls at de wallen are as you described brother.

[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2361195]Visited De Wallen's windows before and after going to the FKK clubs with my buddy. Experience was largely lackluster, though I did see a few very attractive girls. On my first visit (Friday afternoon-evening), several ugly girls were shouting "Baby Baby come here" at me and at tourists walking by. A group of tourists was clearly amused and were laughing a lot at the pushy, ugly girls! I saw an Italian lady Bella who asked for 400 euros an hour for a BJ and vanilla sex (only one round of sex, can cum or pull out only once). 400 euros an hour is more than what most high end escorts charge per hour (usually 300-350 euros an hour)! Up close in person, she was nowhere near as attractive as at a distance! She had very obvious lip injections / botox. I just walked out the door without sessioning with Bella, had something to eat and came back to the windows in another hour. Afterwards, I saw a very hot Serbian girl named Andillina on Annastrat that I would call a "stunner". She has long black hair, and is kind of on the tall side, and she had a gorgeous body and very pretty face. She is around 23 years old. Before she told me she was Serbian, I guessed that she was from southern Romania or Bulgaria (close though). She spoke very good English with a really cute accent. I went in and sessioned with her!.[/QUOTE]

Looking for agency and hotel recommendations that won't break the bank.

[QUOTE=LucasHood2020;2366880]Looking for agency and hotel recommendations that won't break the bank.[/QUOTE]In Amsterdam? Good luck!

[QUOTE=LucasHood2020;2366880]Looking for agency and hotel recommendations that won't break the bank.[/QUOTE]Good agencies which are not expensive are not easy to find there. You might want to look into independents as well. I found one independent who charges mid range prices who seemed promising (Daria). Daria is well reviewed and uses real pics (it seems). Daria took a long time to respond to email though, about two weeks.

[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2367062]Good agencies which are not expensive are not easy to find there. You might want to look into independents as well. I found one independent who charges mid range prices who seemed promising (Daria). Daria is well reviewed and uses real pics (it seems). Daria took a long time to respond to email though, about two weeks.[/QUOTE]Correct. Very difficult! Have used society service. Top notch. However expensive.

[QUOTE=CapedCrusader;2368041]Correct. Very difficult! Have used society service. Top notch. However expensive.[/QUOTE]I did not see any escorts at all in Amsterdam. Daria finally responded to her email once I had left the Netherlands LOL. Was thinking of using Society Service or Courtesan Club if the Windows and Amsterdam Clubs didn't work out. Went back to the FKKs instead.

Society Service is top notch, but they require personal info like your real name and occupation and keep it on file. Would rather not give these details out. I like to stay anonymous if possible.

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[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2367062]Good agencies which are not expensive are not easy to find there. You might want to look into independents as well. I found one independent who charges mid range prices who seemed promising (Daria). Daria is well reviewed and uses real pics (it seems). Daria took a long time to respond to email though, about two weeks.[/QUOTE]How dd it go? [URL]https://alesandra-prive-escort.escortbook.com/[/URL] seems the best reviewed and responsive option I've found.

[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2367062]Good agencies which are not expensive are not easy to find there. You might want to look into independents as well. I found one independent who charges mid range prices who seemed promising (Daria). Daria is well reviewed and uses real pics (it seems). Daria took a long time to respond to email though, about two weeks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://divaescortamsterdam.com/escorts-from/nederlands[/URL]

Can't work out whether this site is legit or not but it appears to be linked to the well-known diva's agency in London. I came upon the site while searching for the whereabouts of a girl I really wanted to see in my next visit to London who is now registered on the site as being on holiday. The fact she is currently absent from divas London site but present on this site leads me to think the agency is legit. However, I am not currently in the UK to be able to ring Divas London to confirm, so maybe someone else can confirm.

Finally made an account so adding a report. Went to Park 118 back in July and wanted a younger girl so I picked Zoe. She is a taller girl, esp with heels on and looked older than 23. Busty girl but a little chubby as well. Service was ok, covered BJ and then doggy and HJ. Paid extra for the hot tub room but she made it clear there was no touching in the hot tub so don't waste your money on that. If I return I'd try another girl.

Guys,

Had my mind set on Sasha at goldenangels but couldn't get an answer to email, what's app or text all weekend. Also tried Smooci and UberGirls but everything looked too good to be true, and as we know if it looks TGTBT is is.

[URL]https://www.goldenangels.com/escort/sasha-152752[/URL]

Took a chance on Ayda based on realistic looking pic's. Young, tiny Romanian girl. Exactly as the pictures. No Photoshop. Nice & professional pleasant. Looking to please. CBY, DATY, Mish' and Doggie at her modest 3* in the suburbs. Then repeated next day as outcall at my hotel. Not really GFE but cool with basic English.

[URL]https://www.kinky.nl/vrouwen/prive-ontvangst/amsterdam/588908-ayda[/URL]#overview.

Treat her well.

[QUOTE=MadKapa;2201795]I know that we're in the Netherlands so this might seem like a weird question but I really want to fuck a Dutch girl and can't find one anywhere. All of the windows, private houses, and kinky ads have Thai, Romanian, Hungarian, or Brazillian girls. I haven't seen a single Dutch girl anywhere.

Does anyone know where in Amsterdam I could find one? Or are my chances better leaving Amsterdam?[/QUOTE]If the girl is from the Netherlands then a small inscription or card "NL" is on the window.

[QUOTE=StRobert;2378973]If the girl is from the Netherlands then a small inscription or card "NL" is on the window.[/QUOTE]High class escort agencies like Society Service and the Courtesan Club have many Dutch working girls.

[QUOTE=StRobert;2378973]If the girl is from the Netherlands then a small inscription or card "NL" is on the window.[/QUOTE]Not all the time. But anyway, you were replying to an old post from 2018.

Always had a good time in the RLD but have not visited for about 10 years. Can anyone say if it has changed in that time? If for the worse then are any other Dutch towns or cities a better bet?

[QUOTE=CanalBank;2381936]Always had a good time in the RLD but have not visited for about 10 years. Can anyone say if it has changed in that time? If for the worse then are any other Dutch towns or cities a better bet?[/QUOTE]Yes, it has changed a lot and there are some alternatives. Just read the forum, that's what it's for.

[QUOTE=CanalBank;2381936]Always had a good time in the RLD but have not visited for about 10 years. Can anyone say if it has changed in that time? If for the worse then are any other Dutch towns or cities a better bet?[/QUOTE]Yes it has changed in 10 years. Probably fewer windows occupied, and fewer available too maybe. The Wallen area seems to me to be winding down slowly and has the appearance of a purely tourist attraction at several times in the day, with less actual business than before. The other RLD areas, for example the Singel area seem more like it was back in the day.

[QUOTE=DanCee;2383257]Yes it has changed in 10 years. Probably fewer windows occupied, and fewer available too maybe. The Wallen area seems to me to be winding down slowly and has the appearance of a purely tourist attraction at several times in the day, with less actual business than before. The other RLD areas, for example the Singel area seem more like it was back in the day.[/QUOTE]When I was in De Wallen recently, there seemed to be a lot of empty windows, especially during the day time.

[QUOTE=DanCee;2383257]Yes it has changed in 10 years. Probably fewer windows occupied, and fewer available too maybe. The Wallen area seems to me to be winding down slowly and has the appearance of a purely tourist attraction at several times in the day, with less actual business than before. The other RLD areas, for example the Singel area seem more like it was back in the day.[/QUOTE]It is not winding down. The government is shutting it down. Just like when they thought it was a good idea to close down the Coffee Shops, a few years ago. Then they realized it was a bad idea and came back to their senses and reopened them. They are trying to do the same with the windows. They bring too much tourism to Amsterdam and make too much money. They want to move them to someplace the tourists won't go. Then they will realize that was a bad idea and came back to their senses and reopen them. It's a Work In Progress.

[QUOTE=ILikeCandy69;2383393]It is not winding down. The government is shutting it down. Just like when they thought it was a good idea to close down the Coffee Shops, a few years ago. Then they realized it was a bad idea and came back to their senses and reopened them. They are trying to do the same with the windows. They bring too much tourism to Amsterdam and make too much money. They want to move them to someplace the tourists won't go. Then they will realize that was a bad idea and came back to their senses and reopen them. It's a Work In Progress.[/QUOTE]It's an interesting analogy. I remember them trying to close down the coffee shops, but it clearly didn't work.

I have happy memories of the RLD, especially in the backstreet alleys etc so I'm hoping maybe they won't have changed too much.

[QUOTE=CanalBank;2383834]I have happy memories of the RLD, especially in the backstreet alleys etc so I'm hoping maybe they won't have changed too much.[/QUOTE]During the day it has changed a lot. I think even on a Friday more than half of the windows is empty. After 9 pm there isn't that much difference with 10 years ago. Ruysdaelkade hardly has any women. I found the Spui and around not very much better during the day. Haven't't gone there at night at all. So the Wallen is still the best place and best come after 9 pm. Or try to find a gem during the day. Lianna, first window on the right (corner) in the Dollebegijnensteeg is nice. So is Angela in Trompettersteeg, last window on the right. Both coming from the direction of the Annendwarssteeg. Hope that helps. Oudekennissteeg has some true beauties during the day but some might sell-up quite a bit.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2387280]During the day it has changed a lot. I think even on a Friday more than half of the windows is empty. After 9 pm there isn't that much difference with 10 years ago. Ruysdaelkade hardly has any women. I found the Spui and around not very much better during the day. Haven't't gone there at night at all. So the Wallen is still the best place and best come after 9 pm. Or try to find a gem during the day. Lianna, first window on the right (corner) in the Dollebegijnensteeg is nice. So is Angela in Trompettersteeg, last window on the right. Both coming from the direction of the Annendwarssteeg. Hope that helps. Oudekennissteeg has some true beauties during the day but some might sell-up quite a bit.[/QUOTE]What's the going rate for a lady in the RLD in Amsterdam? Or market value for a good one?

[QUOTE=Jpot81;2387702]What's the going rate for a lady in the RLD in Amsterdam? Or market value for a good one?[/QUOTE]That's a good question. The general entry price used to be 50 euro for 15-20 minutes. That included undressing and dressing up again. So, I only did that once. For many years I paid 100 euro for half an hour. Half an hour meant just half an hour and it was the same during the day or evening / night. Now 100 euro during the day still gets you half an hour but with limitations, like only 2 positions. It might be 3 positions and no blowjob if you prefer that. Some girls in the day crew will quote you higher than the 100 euro per half hour. Leave them alone, please. They only ask money and don't give anything back. Giving in to them means as much as you want to be deceived. And you surely will be deceived. The night crew sometimes quotes 200 per half hour, sometimes they ask 150 for half an hour. But there still are some that ask 100 for half an hour. So the uniform prices have gone. You might try to negotiate that down but I advise you not to. I have never heard of negotiations in RLD Amsterdam going all that well for the guy, as you negotiate down price and service. If a girl asks more than 100 euro per half hour, I move along. Most of times I spent 1 hour for 200 euro nowadays. My advantage is that I get her attention for quite a while and she is in no rush anymore. Reason for that is that her price for the room is about 150 euro for the day crew. So having a customer paying her daily expenses gets her nerves down. I have heard prices of 300 euro for a room for the night crew. So, if you ask to stay two hours for 400 euro with the night crew than she got her expenses for the day. If you can afford that of course. And it is better to first find a lady that will ask 100 euro per half hour and then stay longer. She usually will be nicer. And I cannot say this often enough: upselling is almost always only about the upselling, not about extra service.

Day crew often settles the day around 17:30 or 18:00. Night crew often starts after 20:00.

[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2383318]When I was in De Wallen recently, there seemed to be a lot of empty windows, especially during the day time.[/QUOTE]This has been happening for the last decade, still can't understand why Amsterdam is seen as the benchmark. Far from it. Amsterdam RLD is a selfie location. Barely if any Dutch girls work there and that matters because the locals don't really like the place unless they have vested interests. Seeing empty windows is now the norm. Even night time has declined. It must be 2008 the last time there was 100% or 90% occupation and choice. What the girls are there now charge almost double from back pre-2010, wasted $$.

[QUOTE=LordLucanII;2391472]This has been happening for the last decade,[/QUOTE]The reason is obvious. Even a Amsterdam fan like me has switched to FKK Germany for about half of the time.

[QUOTE=LordLucanII;2391472] still can't understand why Amsterdam is seen as the benchmark.[/QUOTE]Far from it. Nobody that I know sees it that way. Maybe the tourists are still flabbergasted by the girls in the windows.

[QUOTE=LordLucanII;2391472]Amsterdam RLD is a selfie location.[/QUOTE]Please don't take pictures of the girls. It doesn't happen often but when I see it, I ask people not to take pictures. One girl told me that 'she was dead as she was on the internet'. Please don't do that to girls.

[QUOTE=LordLucanII;2391472]Barely if any Dutch girls work there and that matters because the locals don't really like the place unless they have vested interests.[/QUOTE]I don't know of any Dutch girl working there. But that may be just me. In The Hague (Hunsestraat and Geleenstraat) you can find them more often. They present a Dutch flag at their window. Most locals simply don't care but are not really proud of it. To be clear: I am a local.

[QUOTE=LordLucanII;2391472]Seeing empty windows is now the norm.[/QUOTE]During daytime that is, yes but especially the "Oudekennissteeg" has a lot of girls during the day. It is not easy even for more experienced girls to get a room there on a regular basis. A sweety of mine did not succeed.

[QUOTE=LordLucanII;2391472]Even night time has declined. It must be 2008 the last time there was 100% or 90% occupation and choice.[/QUOTE]That simply is not true. When did you go there for the last time? 2008? Even in 2012 I roamed the streets there during the day. About 70-80% of the windows taken. On Saturday evenings around 11 pm all windows still are taken when I go there and often the streets are super crowded with tourists.

[QUOTE=LordLucanII;2391472]What the girls are there now charge almost double from back pre-2010, wasted $$.[/QUOTE]It doesn't have to be wasted. Just read my previous posts. I really wonder where you get your info. I try hard to supply this thread with solid reliable info. If you read them well, your chances will be better to get a decent lay.

I think the bottom line (currently) is that if you are purely looking for optimal commercial sex, you can do better than the Amsterdam RLD. German FKKs are probably best at that.

However, if you are looking for a great place to visit, and commercial sex is just a part of it, Amsterdam remains a good choice. The museums, street markets, canals, and overall ambience are great. The Dutch aren't known for their cuisine, but Amsterdam is a big enough city that there are plenty of choices from around the world. And, of course, the availability of (for practical purposes) legal cannabis and "coffee shops" where you can imbibe with others is great. It's still possible to have satisfactory paid sex in Amsterdam. It's not like it used to be, but gems can be found. The two smaller RLDs might be a better bet for those looking for something out of the ordinary.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2392180]. The two smaller RLDs might be a better bet for those looking for something out of the ordinary.[/QUOTE]What are the 2 smaller RLDs?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2392210]What are the 2 smaller RLDs?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You would find that out much more quickly by googling it.

I will answer only because I will provide some useful information. I hate the crowds of the main RLD so I always go to the Singel area. I find some very pretty girls there, but only a few windows so you don't have to waste too much time choosing between them. Also very good bars like the Wildeman, and the Eagles Nest along with good restaurants in the area.

Hi guys,

Can you recommend and do you know of some legit and reliable escort agencies in Amsterdam for out call? Those that do not put up fake photos, etc.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=FireBoy2004;2393396]Hi guys,

Can you recommend and do you know of some legit escort agencies in Amsterdam for out call? Those that do not put up fake photos, etc.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Society Service and Courtesan Club. The info and pics are reliable. Their rates are expensive though, starting at €700 for 2 hours and they only do outcalls to hotels with a rating of four stars or higher. The cheaper agencies are not so reliable.

[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2393468]Society Service and Courtesan Club. The info and pics are reliable. Their rates are expensive though, starting at 700 for 2 hours and they only do outcalls to hotels with a rating of four stars or higher. The cheaper agencies are not so reliable.[/QUOTE]Do these agencies offer BBJ (either included in price or up sell)?

[QUOTE=KobeMagic324;2396292]Do these agencies offer BBJ (either included in price or up sell)?[/QUOTE]Usually only CBJ / CFS. The high class agencies like society service don't allow BBBJ / CFS as far as I know.

Had an opportunity to visit Amsterdam last week and was at De Wallen on Friday. The place was very crowded and alive. Did a bit of the peep shows and they were fun.

Walked all over the streets and some of the girls were above average. Zeroed in on a lady near the La Vie en Proost.

The usual damages. All in all a quickie that sort of sums up a good evening!

I'll be in Amsterdam in March. I can already tell its not really the monger destination of yesteryear, but I'm determined to bust my nut several times there. My questions are- has anyone visited the many Asian spas there? Are they happy-ending friendly like NYC / SanFran or not really? And are there "craigslist" type websites locals use where babes place incall / outcall ads? Just trying to find alternatives to the RL district.

Hi all,

I will be coming to Amsterdam in a few days and I figured I would ask this here. We are wanting to host a stag party for 2 of our friends getting married relatively soon. We are a close bunch of 8 friends landing in Amsterdam from all over the world. Would love to hear any of yours input on where could I find ladies for a stag party or events / shows we could go to for a stag party?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=TonyTigre;2398902]I'll be in Amsterdam in March. I can already tell its not really the monger destination of yesteryear, but I'm determined to bust my nut several times there. My questions are- has anyone visited the many Asian spas there? Are they happy-ending friendly like NYC / SanFran or not really? And are there "craigslist" type websites locals use where babes place incall / outcall ads? Just trying to find alternatives to the RL district.[/QUOTE]All the Chinese massage joints I've tried offer he and roaming. Tend to be older milfy types which I quite like. A few south of the station.

[QUOTE=Musicengg;2398960]Hi all,

I will be coming to Amsterdam in a few days and I figured I would ask this here. We are wanting to host a stag party for 2 of our friends getting married relatively soon. We are a close bunch of 8 friends landing in Amsterdam from all over the world. Would love to hear any of yours input on where could I find ladies for a stag party or events / shows we could go to for a stag party?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm not too sure stag nights are appreciated all that much any more in Amsterdam, for the obvious reasons.

[QUOTE=TonyTigre;2398902]And are there "craigslist" type websites locals use where babes place incall / outcall ads? [/QUOTE]Yes there are. Just read this thread and you will find many posts about them.

[QUOTE=FireBoy2004;2393396]Hi guys,

Can you recommend and do you know of some legit and reliable escort agencies in Amsterdam for out call? Those that do not put up fake photos, etc.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I have exactly the same question.

No fake photos. How do you get that guarantee?

Am just on my way back from Amsterdam and had a whole mixture of experiences this time. I've been travelling to the dam on and off for the best part of 35 years now for the smoke and atmosphere as much as anything else. De wallen has never appealed to me for sex so have usually passed through before moving on to Germany and Belgium for much better value and quality pussy. This time round decided I would stay a couple of days but keep well out of de wallen and see what else the city had to offer! First night I booked a well known independent escort. Nice enough girl as her many reviews testify but we just didn't have that click and ultimately a disappointing experience not leaving me too optimistic for the rest of the trip. The next day however was something else all together. I love natural looking girls in their 20's and totally unexpectedly found not one but 2 in the space of a few very horny hours! First off to Park 118 for my first time. Had a delightful hour with Charlotte, a mid 20's blond dutch girl, lovely to be with and incredibly sexy. I left well satisfied but walking back to the hotel past the windows my eye was turned by another natural gorgeous Dutch beauty and had to have her! Sofie has a lovely quiet aura about her and the most gorgeous lickable puss. Spent another great hour bringing an end to one of the most satisfying mongering day for many years. Already planning my next trip!

Went to park 118 this evening at around 5, place is very easy to find esp with building photo on google. It's around 3 kms from Central, where I am staying and I decided to walk to this place. When I reached only one girl Rosanna was available whom I didn't like one bit as she appeared quite old. Anyway told the manager that I am prepared to wait rather than walking out and she seemed a little surprised as expected wait time was around 20 minutes. Zoe came over after 20 minutes or so and had the 30 minutes session with her for 65 euros. She's a pleasant person, more like in late 20's I would guess and was quite clear about the 'extras' rates. I wasn't keen on any extras as had enough in bercelona so just wanted to have a quickie and was pretty happy with the outcome. She's a nice person, was giving me suggestions on which areas to go tonite for drinking as it's being my last night here.

Tried club paradise, it was such a disaster. Went at 11:30 pm, thought it would be peak hours and they had like 2 house women (in their late 30's / early 40's), 3 couples (1 of them was like in their 60's if not 70's) and 7-8 single men all from middle east. The house women were free for all, anyone could go and bang them at the main couch, adjacent to bar. The 2 young couples had absolutely zero interest in interacting with anyone while the old one were happy to have anyone bang the wife (grandma). Saw a couple of young ME guys actually doing that and felt so horribly sick that I left within 45 minutes. Not sure if that's how it is generally at Paradise or it's the December cold that kept horny couples at their homes, but regardless I won't ever go there ever again.

Do the girls here typically offer BBBJ as an upsell? Anyone know? Much appreciated!

[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2396367]Usually only CBJ / CFS. The high class agencies like society service don't allow BBBJ / CFS as far as I know.[/QUOTE]Those high end agencies charge way too much money for non-GFE service IMO. Try independent escorts, brothels, and massage parlors. BTW, if you want to look for Dutch girls on kinky. NL make sure you select the Dutch language. It will filter out girls who claim to be Dutch, but obviously they come from somewhere else (usual from Central and Eastern Europe) and don't speak Dutch according to their profiles.

[QUOTE=Madsjensen6666;2400953]I have exactly the same question.
No fake photos. How do you get that guarantee?[/QUOTE]This site offers blurred photo's but you can become a member and see the pictures for real. You can try the site once for a short time. Just read.

[URL]https://www.societyservice.com[/URL]

But you would also like to read this [URL]https://www.societyservice.com/safe-sex/[/URL] about them. No BBBJ.

I must tell you that most escorts on this site (and others) are not that beautiful. It's hit or miss. Service likewise. Unless you pay her 1 or 2000 euro's she will regard you as a poor man. Good luck. It is what it is.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2410616]This site offers blurred photo's but you can become a member and see the pictures for real. You can try the site once for a short time. Just read.

[URL]https://www.societyservice.com[/URL]

But you would also like to read this [URL]https://www.societyservice.com/safe-sex/[/URL] about them. No BBBJ.

I must tell you that most escorts on this site (and others) are not that beautiful. It's hit or miss. Service likewise. Unless you pay her 1 or 2000 euro's she will regard you as a poor man. Good luck. It is what it is.[/QUOTE]The women of Society Service are not that beautiful either and don't provide good service? Hmmmm. More reasons for me to be glad that I avoided escorts in Amsterdam altogether. I at least thought the SS girls gave better service and were more attractive than low end agency girls. So is this not the case? I heard that SS and Courtesan Club's pics are usually pretty accurate.

[QUOTE=KobeMagic324;2405604]Do the girls here typically offer BBBJ as an upsell? Anyone know? Much appreciated![/QUOTE]Yes, I had a black girl few years back, she upsold BBBJ for 40 euro, but she was good at it.

[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2410701]The women of Society Service are not that beautiful either and don't provide good service? Hmmmm. More reasons for me to be glad that I avoided escorts in Amsterdam altogether. I at least thought the SS girls gave better service and were more attractive than low end agency girls. So is this not the case? I heard that SS and Courtesan Club's pics are usually pretty accurate.[/QUOTE]SS girls are better looking than low end agency girls. No doubt about that. But to be honest, the RLD girls, especially at night are better looking. So it's all about comparison. I tried the high end girls. I went back to FKK and the Wallen Amsterdam. The Wallen for beauty. The FKK for BBBJ. But. If you compare a lady that only accepts bookings close to 1000 euros (and that is for starters, I. E. Poor men) to ladies that accept 150 euros per hour. Well of course something should be better for that high price. But the question is if it is worth the money. IMHO it is not. Generally not as beautiful as RLD girls. GFE is cuddling. No BBBJ. And looking down upon you as you are spending less than 1000 euro on them in one session. Good luck to you.

Has anyone had any experience with Dita as an outcall to your hotel. Pretty highly rated on couple reviews. Her website is [URL]ditavip.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=Kordell9;2413978]Has anyone had any experience with Dita as an outcall to your hotel. Pretty highly rated on couple reviews. Her website is [URL]ditavip.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]No, I do not know her, but was interested to see if there was any info in Dutch that could help you. I hope this link is allowed on ISG. [URL]https://www.hookers.nl/forum/escortbureaus-en-independent-escort/nederland/escort-nederland/2345177-dita-vip-amsterdam-escort[/URL].

It is a pretty objective review and quite positive. It translates just fine by Google so no need to add anything. Only downside mentioned is the size of her pussy (too large). So I won't book her. Enjoy.

Serious question,

Why does the RLD or Amsterdam have such a bad rap? Granted, I've only been there for a few days but I've yet to had an actual poor experience. I've had someone that weren't good but weren't bad either. Not a single one of those was actually bad.

What am I missing? I did really just hit a streak of good luck? The only thing the really bothered me was the obscene amount of drunkenness from a few of the patrons.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2417971]Serious question,
Why does the RLD or Amsterdam have such a bad rap?[/QUOTE]I agree with you totally. It's not that bad and some girls are wonderful. The bad rap stems from two sources. One source is the guys who visited Amsterdam RLD before appr 2010. The 2008 financial crisis took some time to settle down. Before that time most windows were taken during the day. There used to be a very much frequented English site with much more comments than the local Dutch one. Girls in the daytime made money like they couldn't believe. Once I asked a Bulgarian girl why she worked here as she liked the club scene much better: "The money, oh the money". When the crisis finally hit the RLD Amsterdam it hit hard for two reasons. 1 The competition from FKK Germany. 2. Anti RLD forces in Dutch politics The FKK in Germany is only a short distance and was growing enormously. Many people went there, including me. BBBJ at no extra cost at that time.

In Dutch politics right wing religious people opposed the scene a lot. Especially Alkmaar and The Hague were hit hard by razzias. All kind of lies and half truths were broadcasted on Dutch prime time television. Next to that, the socialist city council of Amsterdam tried to curb the RLD and bought a lot of rooms. Now, these are turned into shops and the fun has gone a bit. Many punters left. The city council's money dried up but they were still trying to find ways to shut down or downsize the RLD substantially. All of this made the RLD Amsterdam to turn from a party at least every weekend to an area that has more vacant rooms than rooms taken during the day. Some punters here complain that it is not like the old days. Some complain because it is not like FKK. And surely both are true. But if you do your due diligence or choose some of the girls I recommended you will have a good time. In only post the best, so you won't be disappointed.

Just to end with the worst reason for the bad rap is this one. Some people never read this forum to find true gems or find tips to choose the right girl. Instead they choose a pretty PSE after midnight and do not stop at the first call for more money. They always are disappointed and always will be so. They find some relieve here in posting their misery that could easily have been avoided.

To all: RTFF. I read a lot here and try to contribute.

What are the current prices in the RLD? Haven't been for a few years. Used to be 50 euro for 20 min basic suck and fuck. Girls trying to upsell you another 50 euro for BBBJ / DFK. Some did DFK for free. Met some great Hungarian, Serbian, and Dutch girls back in the day. Hopefully it's not all Romanians now.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2388281]The night crew sometimes quotes 200 per half hour, sometimes they ask 150 for half an hour. But there still are some that ask 100 for half an hour. So the uniform prices have gone. [/QUOTE]

Just read this. Guess I'll just be a lurking tourist in AMS and keep my hobbying to the FKK clubs.

[QUOTE=Simonwagstaff;2392467]I hate the crowds of the main RLD so I always go to the Singel area. I find some very pretty girls there, but only a few windows so you don't have to waste too much time choosing between them. Also very good bars like the Wildeman, and the Eagles Nest along with good restaurants in the area.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. Will keep this area in mind when I return to AMS.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2422609]What are the current prices in the RLD? Haven't been for a few years. Used to be 50 euro for 20 min basic suck and fuck. Girls trying to upsell you another 50 euro for BBBJ / DFK. Some did DFK for free. Met some great Hungarian, Serbian, and Dutch girls back in the day. Hopefully it's not all Romanians now..[/QUOTE]It's not all Romanians. I did see some Russian and Serbian girls there recently. 50 euro usually only gets you a quick blowjob now.

How often is DFK possible in the RLD or Privehouses?

I find hitting the RLD near to Sir Alberts hotel to be much more value for money.

Trying to compile a list of known legitimate escort agencies for posterity value. After several days of reading this forum I have the following.

Dreamsanddesires. Legitimate agency with real photos that are often photoshopped. No BBBJ.

Societyservice. Legitimate high priced agency with real, yet photoshopped girls. No BBBJ.

Topescort. Many verified, unverified, and agency girls. Use common sense when communicating and evaluate reviews.

The Erotic Review (IE TRE) - well known and trusted review site with links to known escorts.

Please help me expand upon this list. I will be happy to compile the information and make a list for those that are mongering and looking for insight. Any and all information is welcome including independents.

The only two I've seen are hookers.nl and redlights.nl which are pretty useful with Google Translate.

At GuyBrusg1957.

In RLD I had three sessions with DFK on a total of about 500. Privehouses offer this service much more often but girls are less beautiful.

At Bradford Boy.

The Ruysdaelkade is a small area with about 25 windows. Sometimes only one or two are taken. But the area is nice, e. G, Albert Cuyp market and around. Good to hear that you had good service here. For me it is a bit too much hit or miss.

At Ravishnrelease.

I must tell you that Dreamsanddesires gave me the most disappointing session ever for the most amount of money ever. Please don't go there. The pictures are heavily photoshopped. One girl had such an ugly face that it hurt to look at her.

Societyservice may give you a good time but beware that the looks of the girls are rather average, I. E not like the pictures but not too different from them. Not really worth the extra money, in my opinion. I don't know the others but usually societyservice is referred to most often.

You could also take a look at leidenescort. NL. Haven't contacted them but the manager has been on Dutch television some time ago. Seemed reasonable.

At GuyBrusg1957.

Hookers. NL is the bigger one. I recommend it.

Good reply, now I've got a ton of questions.

Is Leidenescort even real? How'the you end up with DFK in the RLD? Have you ever been able to pull their numbers and setup an in all or escort with them? How many European or Netherlands Escorts even use The Erotic Review? What's the success rate with the agencies on Smooci? Dam Square Babes, Desire Escorts and Dutch Escorts?

On a final note, what Privehouses have you all been too? Park 118 is great but sometimes the girls you'the like won't be working. I keep seeing Stout continually advertised along with Golden Key Club but I can't find any reviews. Is that a good thing?

Also,

I've seen good things about The Courtesan Club, Upclass International and Dreams and Desires.

At GuyBrusg1957.

Leidenescort is real, just add the Dutch extension (. NL) to it. You have to call them. They have rules and stick to them, so. DFK in RLD is found by asking. Sometimes you can be lucky but success rate of a small lottery may be better. I have been asked by a few girls to exchange contacts but I have declined. I do separate my normal life from punter life quite squarely. But I am tempted by my current favourite. I really don't know yet what will happen after corona has settled down.

I do not know what you mean by 'Erotic review'. If you mean the review on the website of the escort agency than for sure you will be deceived. It's total bullshit. Even the preferences of the ladies that are shown on the website are not real. When I mentioned them to the girls they seemed to be oblivious to them. The agency has to sell the girl one way or the other, so they put that on the board. Together with the reviews. Negative reviews on the website of the agency are not allowed. The review of one girl that I had said that she was bubbly and making such good conversation easily. Well, I had to make all conversation.

Don't know about Smooci. I would not go to Stout. Have been there twice. First time I was upset about their ugliness and left. Next time, after so many good reviews on Dutch boards, I decided to do the best looking girl anyway. I lost 160 euro to a very arrogant, non participating lady. I left for the RLD of The Hague and had a very good session with a girl that has left the scene by now unfortunately (Jane).

That is my general idea of Privehouses. I have been to a few more but simply left for better looking girls in the RLD. Generally speaking I can't have sex with girls that are below my standard and pretty much all Privehouses girls are. So I quit that scene several years ago. My experiences are shared by other posters on other forums that value the same girls as I do: not beautiful enough compared to RLD or FKK.

My advice to you is this. If you want to do a nice girl in RLD Amsterdam during the day time then Lianna is the best in many ways (see my earlier posts). If you want an escort of up to 1000 euro then Society service might be your best bet. But Leidenescort might be interesting, don't know for sure. There's many Dutch girls on Society service that are OK for that price. If you want a girl for 200 or 300 euros then you can go to hookers. NL and choose a Romanian or Bulgarian girl. Dutch girls for that price are fat or old or. Whatever. If you want to spend the day with a girl you can ask her after you felt some chemistry (after at least 3 sessions I would say). I was offered this for about 1000 euro for the day and a big gift (say 200 euro) several years ago, but of course I declined.

[QUOTE=Ludacris775;2422617]It's not all Romanians. I did see some Russian and Serbian girls there recently. 50 euro usually only gets you a quick blowjob now.[/QUOTE]Is that correct 50 E only gets a BJ now?

I was at the RLD 2 years ago and it was 50 E for a BJ and fuck in either 20 or 30 minutes.

I'm surprised all of the review sites car fake but it makes sense. Too bad the privehouses aren't that great but the marketing advertisements sure look attractive! I would have though there'the be a bigger online escort presence for Amsterdam.

Too bad Coronavirus is hitting along with another economic recession. I suspect it'll be months before the RLD is open and then another year to fully recover. That's assuming the city doesn't use this as a excuse to shut it down permanently.

Anyone in Ams at the moment? Are the window girls still working in the RLD? Any bars, cafes etc open?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2436995]Anyone in Ams at the moment? Are the window girls still working in the RLD? Any bars, cafes etc open?[/QUOTE]All of the windows, private houses (sex clubs), massage parlors, bars and restaurants are closed until April 6. This Tuesday the government will decide if this period needs to be extended (and that is most likely going to happen).

But anyway, if you are not a citizen of the EU you will be denied entry to the Netherlands anyway.

Hi,

How are gals from kinky NL. Are they as pic.

[QUOTE=BingoDingo671;2441494]How are gals from kinky NL. Are they as pic.[/QUOTE]Kinky hit the mainstream press in a pretty negative way. Government will take steps against these sex ads for as much as they can and as much as they can prioritize. So, if you book one and have a good session and not get caught by the police in one way or another, you are extremely lucky. I do not know the exact measures for this but you might get arrested and fines may go up to 10.000 euros. So back to the quality of the girls. The girls that still advertise on Kinky really are in the need of the money. So, pretty much the same as the heroin addicted prostitutes. Take your pick.

Thanks for the update. But I still don't get it what's illegal in this, anyways sex is legal here and kinky. NL seems a web site posting sex ads with real escorts phn numbers.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2442223]Kinky hit the mainstream press in a pretty negative way. Government will take steps against these sex ads for as much as they can and as much as they can prioritize. So, if you book one and have a good session and not get caught by the police in one way or another, you are extremely lucky. I do not know the exact measures for this but you might get arrested and fines may go up to 10.000 euros. So back to the quality of the girls. The girls that still advertise on Kinky really are in the need of the money. So, pretty much the same as the heroin addicted prostitutes. Take your pick.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BingoDingo671;2446854]Thanks for the update. But I still don't get it what's illegal in this, anyways sex is legal here and kinky. NL seems a web site posting sex ads with real escorts phn numbers.[/QUOTE]Hair dressers are legal as well in Holland. But now they are temporarily closed by the government. So are many more services, including sex work. In Holland we do not like to shut down the clubs and RLD, just to give way to more obscure opportunities to have sex. Now, Kinky normally has mostly legit and a few more obscure options. Main stream media have reported that some people in government want to temporarily block Kinky. But then girls might move to other websites or whatever place that nobody has control over. So probably Kinky will remain online but ads, especially with quotations 'like available 24/7' will very likely be watched. Take care if you really want to have sex now.

[QUOTE=BingoDingo671;2441494]Hi,

How are gals from kinky NL. Are they as pic.[/QUOTE]Most are. There is a wave of Latin woman. It's sometimes hard to say if they are stolen from instagram or the real deal.

Not sure if it was posted before but Amsterdam got a high end strip club last year named Bon Ton [URL]https://stripclub-bonton.com/[/URL].

In August sexwork will be allowed again and their doors will re-open. One of the owners also ran Club LV, a high end sex house with fees starting at 300 euro.

[QUOTE=Oneminuteboy;2456912]Not sure if it was posted before but Amsterdam got a high end strip club last year named Bon Ton [URL]https://stripclub-bonton.com/[/URL].
In August sexwork will be allowed again and their doors will re-open. One of the owners also ran Club LV, a high end sex house with fees starting at 300 euro.[/QUOTE]Prostitution will only be allowed from September 1, as it looks now. So maybe this club will reopen in August, but sexual contact won't be allowed.

[URL=https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/red-light-blues-amsterdam-prostitutes-fear-corona-lockdown-could-become-permanent-a-4185af77-b1a4-43fa-b8ad-a6a0d7865993]DER SPIEGEL - Amsterdam Prostitutes Fear Corona Lockdown Could Become Permanent[/URL]

[QUOTE]Amsterdam Prostitutes Fear Corona Lockdown Could Become Permanent

After years of being overrun by tourists, Amsterdam is suddenly rediscovering what life is like without visitors. The city's infamous red-light district is currently empty, and the prostitutes who work there are afraid it could stay that way.

"It's crazy," she says. She can't remember ever being able to do so on Oudekennissteeg, the bridge she used to cross nearly every Saturday afternoon for the past two and a half years. She always had a group of tourists in tow, pushing past other tourists to begin her red-light district tour. Now, though, it's all quiet.

The coronavirus has forced people around the world to stay at home. Images of deserted city streets have taken on a familiar, threatening feel. But the Oudekennissteeg bridge in Amsterdam lays bare another threat by virtue of its sudden absence: mass tourism.

So far, the city of Amsterdam has only announced that sex work would be prohibited until Sept. 1. People who work in other so-called "contact professions," such as hairdressers and masseurs, have been permitted to work again since mid-May. "It is completely absurd that we aren't trusted," says Rosie Heart. "Health and caution are our job. It's an old stigma that prostitutes spread disease. We have a lot of ideas for how to continue our work safely."

These days, Bert Nap has to hop on the subway anytime he needs to buy a loaf of bread. "There's no bakery in the neighborhood, but there are waffles with Nutella and souvenirs everywhere," Nap says. "If the sex workers and clients came back, there would be no reason to complain. But if mass tourism returns, all hell will simply break loose again. We should focus on the real problem: the global tourism industry."

The mayor described the "humiliation of sex workers by large groups of tourists" as "unacceptable." In comments she made last year, Halsema said: "For many visitors, the sex workers were nothing more than an attraction to look at."

In order to stem the flow of visitors and to create more living space for permanent residents of the Dutch capital, the city moved to prohibit renting apartments through online platforms such as Airbnb in some parts of the city center beginning on July 1, 2020. Tours of the red-light district, like the ones de Vries gave, have also been subject to restrictions since April.

But the sex workers themselves have also become a problem. Mayor Halsema has pointed to an alleged increase in underground, unlicensed prostitution in Amsterdam and has suggested four scenarios to deal with the overcrowding of De Wallen and to protect legal sex workers -- including the closure of all windows and the ending of prostitution in the red-light district altogether.
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An unfortunate end of an era. I do understand the problem isn't the escort but too many tourists and public intoxication.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2460994][URL=https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/red-light-blues-amsterdam-prostitutes-fear-corona-lockdown-could-become-permanent-a-4185af77-b1a4-43fa-b8ad-a6a0d7865993]DER SPIEGEL - Amsterdam Prostitutes Fear Corona Lockdown Could Become Permanent[/URL]

An unfortunate end of an era. I do understand the problem isn't the escort but too many tourists and public intoxication.[/QUOTE]Mayor Femke Halsema has presented 4 scenario's for the future of De Wallen (the main RLD in the city centre) and a total ban of prostitution is not one of them.

In a nut shell these 4 scenario's are:

1. Brothels instead of open windows (with the same amount of rooms as there are now).
2. Closing all of the windows and reopen them somewhere else in the city, for example in a prostitution hotel at the edge of town.
3. Closing a part of the windows and reopen them somewhere else in the city.
4. Brothels instead of open windows, but with more rooms than in the current situation. This would mean that women who now work illegally at home or in hotels can also rent a room.

Hey boys,

Was thinking of a trip to Amsterdam next week, are we close to be back to normal and does bars and the fun places open for business yet.

I see there is no problem in getting in as long as you have a hotelbooking, I will be going there by car from Denmark.

So can anyone can share some light for me?

Will clubs like prive huis 118 are to be open again by tomorrow, the site of the club mentions so.

[QUOTE=Bono1305;2462348]
Was thinking of a trip to Amsterdam next week, are we close to be back to normal and does bars and the fun places open for business yet.[/QUOTE]Today is just the first day that prostitution is allowed again, so I think we are still a long way from 'normal'. It might take weeks or maybe even months before all of the women are back in business.

Bars and restaurants are open, although not all of them. Don't know exactly what you mean by 'fun places'. Night clubs and disco's are still closed. Brothels (privéhuizen) are allowed to open again, but I don't know how many of them actually will be open this week or next week already.

[QUOTE=AlexWP;2462629]Will clubs like prive huis 118 are to be open again by tomorrow, the site of the club mentions so.[/QUOTE]Yes, Park 118 will be open again from 11:00 am today.

Thanks for the reply.

Just have some days off, so was thinking of do a little trip to Amsterdam as I never been there.

Use to the Thailand thing as I have lived there many years, but know Amsterdam is nothing like it.

My ideas was just go there visit a few bars and restaurants, follow by a visit to a brothel, SW, or RLD depending on the mood.

Nightclubs and disco is not my thing.

Can anybody verify if the RLD girls are back working?

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2463431]Can anybody verify if the RLD girls are back working?[/QUOTE]Yes they are. But its very busy and not all ladies are back to work or stuck in their home countrys.

[QUOTE=SexSebas;2463436]Yes they are. But its very busy and not all ladies are back to work or stuck in their home countrys.[/QUOTE]Looking on the live webcams in the evening De Wallen RLD looks pretty quiet?

[QUOTE=SexSebas;2463436]Yes they are. But its very busy and not all ladies are back to work or stuck in their home countrys.[/QUOTE]I be there on Monday, then I let you all know.

BTW is the going price 50 euro in Wallen?

[QUOTE=Bono1305;2463712]I be there on Monday, then I let you all know.

BTW is the going price 50 euro in Wallen?[/QUOTE]Was 50 euro in December 2019 when I was last there.

So in Amsterdam since yesterday, De wallen in day time, very very quiet, after 8 pm it start getting more busy, was walking around a few hours last night, will say around 60% ish of the windows are open.

Going price is still 50 Euro.

And as a plus some smoking hot girls there, and a Czech girl, last night, and will try a new tonight.

The bars around De wallen is also very quiet, but to be fair it was a Monday night.

[QUOTE=Bono1305;2464592]So in Amsterdam since yesterday, De wallen in day time, very very quiet, after 8 pm it start getting more busy, was walking around a few hours last night, will say around 60% ish of the windows are open.

Going price is still 50 Euro.

And as a plus some smoking hot girls there, and a Czech girl, last night, and will try a new tonight.

The bars around De wallen is also very quiet, but to be fair it was a Monday night.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bono, I will have a couple of nights in Ams I think in a week or two time.

Just want to update what Bono has already said.

Very quiet considering it's Amsterdam but will most likely get a lot more busy now that UK restrictions have eased off so I'm definitely enjoying the 'peace and quiet'.

Hardly any windows open during the day must of counted only a few. During the night there was a lot more girls in the windows but still quiet compared to Amsterdam prior to convid. If you think it's difficult getting OWO before good luck getting it now that's all I will say but then again I can understand especially with the current situation.

I don't have any reports just an update but I'll be back next month and see what happens then!

Happy mongering all.

[QUOTE=London92;2464949]Just want to update what Bono has already said.

Very quiet considering it's Amsterdam but will most likely get a lot more busy now that UK restrictions have eased off so I'm definitely enjoying the 'peace and quiet'.

Hardly any windows open during the day must of counted only a few. During the night there was a lot more girls in the windows but still quiet compared to Amsterdam prior to convid. If you think it's difficult getting OWO before good luck getting it now that's all I will say but then again I can understand especially with the current situation.

I don't have any reports just an update but I'll be back next month and see what happens then!

Happy mongering all.[/QUOTE]In the evening are there many people doing the window girls then?

[URL]https://time.com/5858586/covid-19-red-light-district-amsterdam/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB[/URL]

Why Amsterdam's Red Light District May Not Survive the Coronavirus Pandemic.

One morning in mid-March, Lennard Roubos woke up to find his neighborhood transformed. For the best part of a decade, Roubos' street, just outside the red light district in Amsterdam's city center, has been filled with tourists. Drawn to the area by coffee shops where you can freely smoke marijuana and sex workers who solicit clients from the city's world-famous window brothels, the tourists yell, drink, urinate, and sometimes buy drugs from dealers stationed near his first-floor apartment, Roubos says.

All of that stopped on March 15, when the Netherlands introduced lockdown measures to stem the spread of the new coronavirus, barring tourists from entering, closing bars and coffee shops, and shuttering the city's roughly 330 brothel windows. The deserted streets were striking, Roubos says. "It was really an eye opener to see how the situation had gotten out of hand."

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2464972]In the evening are there many people doing the window girls then?[/QUOTE]As I never been before this week, I'm not 100% sure, but it look like a lot less fewer than before, saw a few videos on youtube, and could see the place was packed.

Also many bare are very quiet, went to an Irish bar to watch some football, only 5-10 people in there, and saw many bars with no guest, but should pick up now, when the border is open.

Only bad thing I saw was there was many young groups of 5-6 middeleast guys who walked around and made fun of some of the girls, hope that is not a huge problem there, but could see the girls did not like it, and had to close the curtains until they walked away.

[QUOTE=Berrys66;2465093][URL]https://time.com/5858586/covid-19-red-light-district-amsterdam/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB[/URL]
Why Amsterdam's Red Light District May Not Survive the Coronavirus Pandemic.[/QUOTE]The airport is very quiet too. Many people sigh with relieve. But we do not expect this to be the end of the airport. There's many more people around the airport that would like to have it like it is now than there are people complaining of the RLD.

[QUOTE=Bono1305;2465152]Only bad thing I saw was there was many young groups of 5-6 middeleast guys who walked around and made fun of some of the girls, hope that is not a huge problem there, but could see the girls did not like it, and had to close the curtains until they walked away.[/QUOTE]This happens a lot. It's mostly boys from the rural areas that do this as part of a bachelor's party. If you like a girl in such a situation, you should get to her immediately. You will be rewarded and you help her as well.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2464972]In the evening are there many people doing the window girls then?[/QUOTE]Not many at all, few went to the windows but not much action from my POV.

I myself tried but not much luck as none of the girls were offering what I was after, I do have to admit there was a number of really attractive girls in the windows and they seemed a lot more friendlier than normal (probably because of how quite the RLD is at the moment).

[URL]https://nltimes.nl/2020/07/19/amsterdams-red-light-district-closed-due-overcrowding-street-performers-banned[/URL]

Wonder how long this will last for. I would imagine they have closed only the main RLD and not the other 2 smaller ones?

[QUOTE=London92;2468472][URL]https://nltimes.nl/2020/07/19/amsterdams-red-light-district-closed-due-overcrowding-street-performers-banned[/URL]

Wonder how long this will last for. I would imagine they have closed only the main RLD and not the other 2 smaller ones?[/QUOTE]The oldest profession will certainly outlast the current scare.

Hey guys,

Do anybody know how to get Viagra in Amsterdam without prescription. I went to chemist and they are asking for the prescription.

[QUOTE=London92;2468472][URL]https://nltimes.nl/2020/07/19/amsterdams-red-light-district-closed-due-overcrowding-street-performers-banned[/URL]
Wonder how long this will last for. I would imagine they have closed only the main RLD and not the other 2 smaller ones?[/QUOTE]You have to read carefully. It was only closed temporarily, because it was getting too crowded.

Has anybody visited showboat recently. ?how do things work with covid-19. It seems that it is mandatory to wear a face mask.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2469843]You have to read carefully. It was only closed temporarily, because it was getting too crowded.[/QUOTE]Yes I was there last weekend from Thursday to Sunday, and the RLD area was very busy. Possibly not as busy as I have seen it in the past, but definitely very busy (and a lot of girls in the windows too, but again did not seem as many as there would have been in the windows pre-Corona).

In the evenings they had martials out in the RLD making some of the wider streets one way, however I don't think they temporarily closed any of the narrower lanes or made those one way (like they are stating in that article for the current situation so that must be a new thing).

INTRODUCTION

Firstly, I have to say that this forum as a guide specifically for Amsterdam is extremely poor compared to the guides for other cities and places on ISG. I went back and read posts here in the Amsterdam section from the past year just prior to getting to the city last weekend and gained very little useful information (I know a few months have been lost due to Corona, but even still!

So, I found myself in central Amsterdam and in need of some form of erotic massage, and realised I was short on options. There was nothing useful gleaned on ISG Amsterdam, except that the standard Chinese massage shops you see around several European cities possibly may provide the standard happy ending, however this was open to debate given that other posts on here suggested that a happy ending is not possible with those places anymore due to it being considered prostitution. Given that the standard half hour price in Amsterdam for a massage in one of these Chinese places seemed to be 30 (steep compared to places like Barcelona for instance), I was not going to take the risk on whether a happy ending was on offer of not.

So after a Google search for body to body and erotic massages, there were very few options centrally (unless I was prepared to get on a tram or a metro and travel a bit, which I wasn't prepared to do as I was short of time). This then led me to try Love Club 21.


LOCATION AND VENUE

Love Club 21 is based on a small side street in "Koestraat" in the RLD. The beauty of this place is that even though it is in the RLD, it is on a very quiet street away from the gaping tourist eye, so you can come here and easily pay a discreet visit (as I did). It's also very easy to get to from Amsterdam Central station, so very centrally located.

The venue itself is fairly decent. Nice and clean and was possibly refurbished in the last few years at some point. The massages are performed on double beds, and the place has showers (you are asked to take a shower before the massage begins, and of course you can take one after the massage has ended also).


REVIEW

I paid two visits to Love Club 21, one last Saturday and one the day after (last Sunday), with both visits occurring probably around 5 or 6 pm.

I SHOULD ADD THE CAVEAT HERE THAT ON BOTH VISITS I HAD HAD MAYBE AROUND 6 or 7 PINTS OF BEER BEFORE EACH VISIT, SO MY MEMORY IS A LITTLE HAZY!!

I did NOT make an appointment on either visit. After ringing the bell, I was quickly answered at the door on each visit by a friendly Thai lady who brought me through the reception area of the place, showed me the written menu, and asked me which girl I would like. On the first visit the greeting girl was probably around mid to late 20's and thin, whilst the greeting girl the next day was maybe around 40-45 ish and slightly on the large size (only slightly though, and was still sexy), On each visit, in addition to the greeting girls there were also around 3-4 girls to chose from (who all seemed on the mature side perhaps, around 40-45 years old however this is not a problem for me as I quite like the MILFY type at times, so to me they were all doable).


PRICE

I was shown a small menu on each of the two visits, which quoted 65 for a half hour "Thai Massage" including a happy ending and 90 for a one hour "Thai Massage" including a happy ending. I opted for the half hour with happy ending on both visits.

SEE **** NEAR THE END OF THIS REPORT FOR MORE DETAILS ON PRICING.


SERVICE

On each of the two visits, I went with the women who answered the door each time (as they were very friendly with the greeting and explaining how everything works). The other 3-4 MILFY women on each visit looked good too, however I was unsure of the level of their English and they were not jumping over themselves to get selected so thought it was best to play it safe with the friendly greeters.

On the first visit with the young greeter, we had a good chat throughout my visit which put me at ease. The massage was nothing special (as is usually the case when you get a massage at an "erotic" venue) however it was not too bad either.

On the second visit the next day with the older greeter (the younger greeter from the previous days visit was not working that day I was told), she was also friendly but not as easy to chat with as the greeter from the previous day. This lady's massage was not as good as the massage from the previous day either but was OK overall in my slightly drunken state.


UPSELLS

The strange thing that happened was the "upsell" of services in each case. On the first visit the girl informed me (after perhaps 15-20 minutes or so into the massage after she was done massaging my back and asking me to turn over) that she would do body to body for an extra 30 or a BJ for an extra 30 (I assumed covered but I didn't ask) or would do both of these services for a combined 50. I really wanted to lick this girl out as I found her thin body and personality very cute, however she informed me quite politely that this was not possible, so I opted for the body to body for the extra 30. I think it was at this point only that she stripped off fully naked as possibly before this she was just in her underwear, but I cannot really remember so do not quote me on that. She did inform me though before the B2 B that there was no kissing, I could touch her body except for her pussy during the B2 B massage. To be honest, the B2 B wasn't really worth it financially as it only lasted about 5 or so minutes, and was a poor body to body considering it was a Thai girl doing it as they are usually really good so overall it was just an average quick body to body massage, with a decent hand job at the end to finish it off. Not value for money at 30.

On the second visit the day after, the same upsell thing happened around the same time into the massage, however this time the lady stated 45 for a body to body massage (as opposed to the 30 the day before) and this was the only service she quoted. I had a chat with her that it cost just 30 the day before and that 45 was a bit too expensive, to which she told me "different ladies have different prices". She wouldn't move on the price by the looks of it (plus I was not too keen on the body to body with her after the disappointment the day before and due to this lady not being petite) so we ended with a nice long hand job which was decent (the lady remained in underwear for this, and was not naked).


WIR
Well yes. And I did two days running! The place is expensive for what it is, however, it is central and easy to get to without any hassle, and when short of time in the centre of Amsterdam it definitely helps scratch a much-needed itch. Next time I would probably try and arrange a visit to one of the places a bit further from the centre as I am sure they are better value for money (like "Sweet Thai Massage", however there is not a lot of recent / reliable information on any of the massage places in Amsterdam which I could find).


**** Regarding pricing, from my research on Love Club 21 both on this forum and on Google prior to visiting, full service at this venue DID seem to be on offer. However, I am fairly sure that only a massage with hand job was on the written menu when I was at the venue (and I am sure this was also the case on Love Club 21's website too last weekend you can find this website easily on Google). However, when checking Love Club 21's website just now to get the address to post in this report, in addition to the pricing for the Thai massage with happy ending (as I outlined above), they also have additional pricing on there now too for Thai massage with sex for 100 for 30 minutes and 150 for 60 minutes. Now I may be wrong, but when I checked their website last weekend and also when I looked at their written menu I do not recall seeing the sex option at all like I said I may be wrong on this) as I was a fair bit intoxicated) but I don't think I am (given that no sex was offered at all during the upsell stage of either of the two massages themselves) I am thinking perhaps the sex option may have been put on hold at that time due to Corona and has possibly now been relaxed.

TIPS:
1) In terms of the point above regarding sex, if you are after this option then maybe best to call them in advance to check if this is possible (tel: 020 341 6828 according to their website).

2) Given the discrepancy from one day to the next over how much the body to body massage would cost (which I was told the price was dependent on how much the girl decides), then I would highly recommend having an idea of what services you want before going, and then on arrival in the reception area make it clear before picking your girl the services you are after and agree the price at that point to avoid any ridiculous upsells later on.

If anyway reading this report does visit this place, then please post a report as it would be interesting to see about the full service aspect for next time I am in Amsterdam. Also, this forum is in dire need for reports on erotic / nuru / B2 B Body to Body massage places etc in Amsterdam so get visiting them please and then write a report to help out fellow members!

I went to the RLD Amsterdam last Friday afternoon. About 25 girls all in all. A few cute ones. My favorite is still in her home country. I did not try one of the other girls. The RLD is very quiet but the surrounding streets are crowded with tourists. The lap dance bar next to the RLD has reported about 8 cases of Corona. All the employees seem to be infected. Only one customer. It's not really an incentive to go there and have sex.

Hello fellow mongerers,

Starting my vacation yesterday but having surgery tomorrow, and fearing another lockdown soon, I figured I'd go for a quick visit to Amsterdam for the novelty factor. One day of pure debauchery. Long time lurker, I reread the first twenty pages during the travel to plan the day.

Started in the RLD after noon, ID say 15 windows are open during the day? A lot of under average / elderly ladies sadly. Met a gal who's pretty hot (6 feet, glasses) but she started upselling like crazy so I left. Settled for a Moldovan girl named Elisa. She's a damn stunner, brunette with a very slim and tender body, very young. No upselling, I can sadly confirm a full service is 100€ these times during the day.

Lunch, waiting a bit, then went to park 118 around 5 pm. Only three girls were available. I read so much about Lola in this thread, that when I saw her, I knew I had to try. But the last person to present herself, a hot Latina named Valentina, teased me quite a bit. So I finally chose a threesome (200€ for 45 minutes).

After discussing the extras, we go to town. Having already shot once during the day made the threesome bearable, I would have lasted two minutes without. Lola is indeed insane, I can't believe those curves are possible on an actual person. Valentina is so naughty you just want to destroy her, so I did as well.

At this stage, I could have called it quits. But I thought back of my schedule, the surgery and all, and the experience, so I waited until 9:30 pm until I came back to life to go to Golden Key.

Only 2 gals available, I went for a Bulgarian cutie named Elie. The entry fee is gone, you just pay for the bottle and the 250€ for the girl. The meeting was fun, pretty much like picking up a girl at a bar, moving on to a jacuzzi make out session, then sex in the bed. The sex was objectively great, it's hard getting excited for the third time of the day so I lasted a fair bit, finishing up right at the end of the hour. At this point, I'm totally drained LOL.

Took a walk in the RLD around midnight, a lot more gals, easily 30 gals, the overwhelming majority are damn hot. Didn't ask any girls for prices.

Trip back the following morning.

Amsterdam is pretty damn warm these days, a lot of tourists as well. Corona safety measures are very lax, they just ask you to write your name down in a list on restaurants so they call you if they detect a case. No masks during the night.

[QUOTE=Mornot;2474483] Corona safety measures are very lax, they just ask you to write your name down in a list on restaurants so they call you if they detect a case. No masks during the night.[/QUOTE]You had intimate contact with 4 working girls in one day and then you complain about the Corona safety measures being lax? Geez. LOL.

[QUOTE=Mornot;2474483]Hello fellow mongerers,
Corona safety measures are very lax, they just ask you to write your name down in a list on restaurants so they call you if they detect a case. No masks during the night.[/QUOTE]Dutch people, like Swedes, take their own responsibility. The government asks us to do things in a certain way and does not compel us to do it like that and does not forbid too much. We like our own responsibility. Foreigners like to do anything that is not forbidden. So yes, to you it might look very lax but that is just because we have a different relation with our government. It is one of trust.

My favorite mongering scene is SC and FFK in Germany. Second to that is Amsterdam. Preferably the daytime crew because there are so many idiots on the streets during the night. It has been very slow the last weeks but today it was a marvelous come-back. Especially Dollebegijnensteeg and OudeKennissteeg are filled with beauties. Trompettersteeg has some fine ladies too. Beauty of the girls is a bit above average before Corona. Of course I went straight to my favourite Lily. She is on the first window on the right in the Dollebegijnensteeg. It was good as ever. Stayed two hours for 400. So just stop looking for escorts and night clubs. The RLD is back and is the best thing in Amsterdam. When I went home I saw some very beautiful ladies and will check on them next time. Ladies in general have few customers. So, all available to the few guys that go there. Have fun.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2479338]My favorite mongering scene is SC and FFK in Germany. Second to that is Amsterdam. Preferably the daytime crew because there are so many idiots on the streets during the night. It has been very slow the last weeks but today it was a marvelous come-back. Especially Dollebegijnensteeg and OudeKennissteeg are filled with beauties. Trompettersteeg has some fine ladies too. Beauty of the girls is a bit above average before Corona. Of course I went straight to my favourite Lily. She is on the first window on the right in the Dollebegijnensteeg. It was good as ever. Stayed two hours for 400. So just stop looking for escorts and night clubs. The RLD is back and is the best thing in Amsterdam. When I went home I saw some very beautiful ladies and will check on them next time. Ladies in general have few customers. So, all available to the few guys that go there. Have fun.[/QUOTE]I hope she is a super lovely real model to worth 400 for 2 hours, when busy superstar Kate at GT is for 200/120.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2479434]I hope she is a super lovely real model to worth 400 for 2 hours, when busy superstar Kate at GT is for 200/120.[/QUOTE]Your superstar. Yes, you keep bringing her up in any forum available and now I am very curious as I really don't know her. But GT is closed by now as far as I know. I would love to get acquainted with this superstar. So introduce me to her as soon as GT is open again. In GT I always miss out on the most popular girls. No problem as there are always enough women that are interesting. But I am jealous of the guys that meet the hot shots on a seemingly regular basis. How do you manage that. For a true comparison between Amsterdam and GT I usually take all costs in the account. So, before I get into GT I have spent 100 euro at least. If I spend one hour in the room, then that makes 200 euro. Just the same as one hour with Lily in Amsterdam will cost me. My travel to Amsterdam is for free! And going back on subject. Yes, Lily is lovely and a little bit too short to be a model. But everything else is perfect to me. I will try other girls in the (near) future though because I am not married nor do I want to be married or anything that is too similar. To round things up, I prefer sessions of 1 hour but I just could not control myself.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2480012]Your superstar. Yes, you keep bringing her up in any forum available and now I am very curious as I really don't know her. But GT is closed by now as far as I know. I would love to get acquainted with this superstar. So introduce me to her as soon as GT is open again. In GT I always miss out on the most popular girls. No problem as there are always enough women that are interesting. But I am jealous of the guys that meet the hot shots on a seemingly regular basis. How do you manage that. For a true comparison between Amsterdam and GT I usually take all costs in the account. So, before I get into GT I have spent 100 euro at least. If I spend one hour in the room, then that makes 200 euro. Just the same as one hour with Lily in Amsterdam will cost me. My travel to Amsterdam is for free! And going back on subject. Yes, Lily is lovely and a little bit too short to be a model. But everything else is perfect to me. I will try other girls in the (near) future though because I am not married nor do I want to be married or anything that is too similar. To round things up, I prefer sessions of 1 hour but I just could not control myself.[/QUOTE]First, I only write on this forum, because make me practice English like at school, and relaxing my mind to practice foreign language. I know Kate since September 2015 at Velbert where she was full busy and same when she moved to GT, sometimes booked for whole day by some guys, Italian, NL, why I say superstar, but you are right: GT is closed and NRW is in trouble about virus. I don t know Amsterdam RLD, where do you have sex? In windows? Shower? What is rate? BBBJ? Are girls kissing? When always looking for beauties. NL girls or mostly Romanians like in FKK?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2480201]First, I only write on this forum, because make me practice English like at school, and relaxing my mind to practice foreign language.[/QUOTE]Ahhh, that's why you write so much.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2480201]I know Kate since September 2015 at Velbert where she was full busy and same when she moved to GT, sometimes booked for whole day by some guys, Italian, NL, why I say superstar, but you are right: GT is closed and NRW is in trouble about virus.[/QUOTE]I already had a bad feeling about that introduction to Kate. Well, a pity.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2480201]I don t know Amsterdam RLD, where do you have sex? In windows? Shower? What is rate? BBBJ? Are girls kissing? When always looking for beauties. NL girls or mostly Romanians like in FKK?[/QUOTE]You can have sex in Amsterdam in various ways and places. I think RLD is the most transparent. So, the windows, yes. There are three areas. The Wallen being the most famous. The other areas are more hassle to get there and not much of a reward in return. The Wallen is close to Central Station. With some ladies you can shower but not with all of them and almost nobody does that. In each room is a faucet and you can shortly wash your private parts there. Not much of a problem if you go to your hotel or home afterwards. Even E. Coli takes 20 minutes to double their number, so not really top of hygiene but it's better than most windows in other places (Brussels for example). The rate should be 50 for 15 minutes or any multiple of that. Don't ever go for 15 minutes. It is going nowhere. Don't pay more than this. Asking more money in RLD usually means lower quality of service. It's in the girl's head! BBBJ is sometimes on the table. I have heard of three and had one giving BBBJ. All of these girls were very popular and then vanished for a few months. After they returned they didn't do BBBJ anymore. Clear sign of a STD. So, better don't do BBBJ in RLD Amsterdam. By the way I caught an STD in GT after a BBBJ in October 2016. In all these years and that is 30+ I found one girl that kissed me. Maybe if you are handsome they may do that but not much chance. But upon leaving you get three kisses on the cheek. Even now. Especially the top girls in RLD Amsterdam are more beautiful than GT. Try Dollebegijnensteeg or OudeKennissteeg. In the evening there are far more girls and real gems but girls are less service oriented. They quite often ask more money and with tourists they often play them like they really shouldn't: promise, ask more money and do nothing and repeat this. The streets late at night become a bit peculiar. Drugs dealing especially in the Monnikensteeg. A lot of men that celebrate their bachelor party etc etc. But you can have a perfect session with a perfect beautiful girl. And Sirioja for you with your experience in SC the RLD will not be a serious competitor but you might try it once now, as Germany SC is still closed.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2480318]Ahhh, that's why you write so much.

I already had a bad feeling about that introduction to Kate. Well, a pity.

You can have sex in Amsterdam in various ways and places. I think RLD is the most transparent. So, the windows, yes. There are three areas. The Wallen being the most famous. The other areas are more hassle to get there and not much of a reward in return. The Wallen is close to Central Station. With some ladies you can shower but not with all of them and almost nobody does that. In each room is a faucet and you can shortly wash your private parts there. Not much of a problem if you go to your hotel or home afterwards. Even E. Coli takes 20 minutes to double their number, so not really top of hygiene but it's better than most windows in other places (Brussels for example). The rate should be 50 for 15 minutes or any multiple of that. Don't ever go for 15 minutes. It is going nowhere. Don't pay more than this. Asking more money in RLD usually means lower quality of service. It's in the girl's head! BBBJ is sometimes on the table. I have heard of three and had one giving BBBJ. All of these girls were very popular and then vanished for a few months. After they returned they didn't do BBBJ anymore. Clear sign of a STD. So, better don't do BBBJ in RLD Amsterdam. By the way I caught an STD in GT after a BBBJ in October 2016. In all these years and that is 30+ I found one girl that kissed me. Maybe if you are handsome they may do that but not much chance. But upon leaving you get three kisses on the cheek. Even now. Especially the top girls in RLD Amsterdam are more beautiful than GT. Try Dollebegijnensteeg or OudeKennissteeg. In the evening there are far more girls and real gems but girls are less service oriented. They quite often ask more money and with tourists they often play them like they really shouldn't: promise, ask more money and do nothing and repeat this. The streets late at night become a bit peculiar. Drugs dealing especially in the Monnikensteeg. A lot of men that celebrate their bachelor party etc etc. But you can have a perfect session with a perfect beautiful girl. And Sirioja for you with your experience in SC the RLD will not be a serious competitor but you might try it once now, as Germany SC is still closed.[/QUOTE]I meant are there good rooms with shower for good hygiene? If not, I can't enjoy sex. Of course, I love beauties, and GT is not best place for natural beauties, but I need DFK to enjoy sex and never caught something bad with girls on Kate level.

Some of the higher end clubs in the city have showers, hot tubs, etc. Not sure about DFK. Depends on the girl, her mood, you, etc. I'd say your odds are at least 50/50 in the sex clubs or brothels. Maybe 20% in the RLD.

[URL=https://nltimes.nl/2020/09/04/parliament-banning-paid-sex]PARLIAMENTAGAINST BANNING PAID SEX - nltimes.nl[/URL]

[quote]A majority in parliament shot down a CDA proposal to ban paid sex. According to multiple parties, making prostitution illegal is no way to fight abuses in the industry. Main objections were that banning prostitution would only send sex workers underground, and make the abuses against them even more invisible, Het Parool and De Telegraaf report.

CDA parliamentarian Anne Kuik argued that prostitution is by definition unequal, and that the sector is full of abuses. "Most prostitutes would not actually want to have sex with the man in front of them. But it still happens, because it is paid. So consent is bought, the woman is a product. That is no longer possible in these modern times," Kuik said. But her proposal only got support from the other two Christian parties, SGP and ChristenUnie, who have been arguing for banning prostitution for years.

The other two coalition parties VVD and D66 are against a ban. "As far as the VVD is concerned, prostitution remains legal," VVD parliamentarian Martijn Bolkestein said. "You cannot first regulate a profession and then ban its patronage. " The VVD sees more value in prosecuting criminal pimps and brothel owners.

"Prostitution is just a job, a profession," D66 parliamentarian Achraf Bouali said. "A lot of people enjoy doing this and earn a living with it. " Bouali is worried that banning prostitution will only result in it moving underground. That would lead to more violence and an increase in the number of HIV infection, the MP said.[/quote]

Looks like prostitution for new remains in The Netherlands. But once the RLD is gone who knows. Are any dutch locals on the forum? How close was the vote? Do you think in a decade it'll be gone?

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2481221][URL=https://nltimes.nl/2020/09/04/parliament-banning-paid-sex]PARLIAMENTAGAINST BANNING PAID SEX - nltimes.nl[/URL]

Looks like prostitution for new remains in The Netherlands. But once the RLD is gone who knows. Are any dutch locals on the forum? How close was the vote? Do you think in a decade it'll be gone?[/QUOTE]I'm a Dutch local. The parliament hasn't voted yet, they have only discussed it. The vote will be this Tuesday, September 8.

However, as it looks now only the three Christian parties (CDA, CU and SGP) are in favor of a ban, but they don't have the majority in the parliament. Not by far, only 27 seats of 150.
It's nothing new by the way. The discussion comes up every now and then and some organizations have tried a couple of times before to ban prostitution, but they never succeeded.

Nevertheless some RLDs have been closed in recent years, like the ones in Arnhem and Utrecht, or partially closed, like the main RLD in Amsterdam. Personally I think that more RLDs will follow and that more and more women will choose to work from home and advertise online.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2481274]The discussion comes up every now and then and some organizations have tried a couple of times before to ban prostitution, but they never succeeded. Nevertheless some RLDs have been closed in recent years, like the ones in Arnhem and Utrecht, or partially closed, like the main RLD in Amsterdam. Personally I think that more RLDs will follow and that more and more women will choose to work from home and advertise online.[/QUOTE]Agree with you but I would like to add some details. So far the the efforts to curb prostitution are more local than national. There are some differences now. This proposal to ban prostitution is national and Government too is working on a new bill. The government wants agencies and prostitutes to work with government licenses. Anyone who pays a prostitute that has no license is punishable by law. So, licensed prostitutes would follow the current Dutch model. Unlicensed prostitutes would follow the Nordic model. I think this government bill is very likely to pass the process of legislation. For the customer of the RLD there is no real problem. A girl has to get the key to her room and will have to show her license then. Of course the christian parties will try to hand out fewer licenses. I do not think that RLD's will grow much smaller in the future. They only succeeded when there were real problems with other people around the RLD complaining about them (Arnhem and Utrecht). In Amsterdam it was the leader of the Social democrats that used tax money to buy property in the RLD. Their money ran out. They made a pact with a large insurance company to buy property in the RLD (Achmea). But so far there have been no new acquisitions. The favors the city council of Amsterdam wanted to grant Achmea in return were questionable. But I do not know the current state of this agreement. Then the current mayor (female) of Amsterdam seems to have only one objective: the safety of the girl. Her party is all for the Dutch model, not the Nordic one. So, most likely nothing much will change in the near future. Except for the fact that you might have to ask the girl for her license.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2481274]I'm a Dutch local. The parliament hasn't voted yet, they have only discussed it. The vote will be this Tuesday, September 8.

However, as it looks now only the three Christian parties (CDA, CU and SGP) are in favor of a ban, but they don't have the majority in the parliament. Not by far, only 27 seats of 150.
It's nothing new by the way. The discussion comes up every now and then and some organizations have tried a couple of times before to ban prostitution, but they never succeeded.

Nevertheless some RLDs have been closed in recent years, like the ones in Arnhem and Utrecht, or partially closed, like the main RLD in Amsterdam. Personally I think that more RLDs will follow and that more and more women will choose to work from home and advertise online.[/QUOTE]It would seem to me that the RLD accounts for a decent amount of tourism, no?

[QUOTE=TerminateHer22;2481312]It would seem to me that the RLD accounts for a decent amount of tourism, no?[/QUOTE]Yes, but so does the rest of the city. In 2019 over 9 million people visited Amsterdam, but obviously not all 9 million visited the RLD.
If the RLD would be closed you would not notice a significant drop in the number of tourists I think. Also because the number is growing rapidly each year (pre Covid anyway). If the coffee shops would be closed as well, then it might be a different story LOL.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2481220]Some of the higher end clubs in the city have showers, hot tubs, etc. Not sure about DFK. Depends on the girl, her mood, you, etc. I'd say your odds are at least 50/50 in the sex clubs or brothels. Maybe 20% in the RLD.[/QUOTE]If the girl is turned on she would offer DFK. But now due to pandemic situation they may not do. But if she is an independent she can offer.

Good afternoon!

Heading to Amsterdam on Monday for a short business trip. It will be my first time there, so hope you can give me some recommendations on where to go to have some fun. Obviously there is the RLD, but will that be a good choice on a Monday as well?

Usually I prefer to go to the erotic massage places, but they seem to be more expensive in Amsterdam than the RLD.

So, if I want to spent 100-150 EUR / hour the best way possible, where is the place to go in your opinion?

BTW this is my first post to the Forum, but hope to make my fair bit of contributions in the future.

[QUOTE=Badcaptain;2483868]Good afternoon!

Heading to Amsterdam on Monday for a short business trip. It will be my first time there, so hope you can give me some recommendations on where to go to have some fun. Obviously there is the RLD, but will that be a good choice on a Monday as well?

Usually I prefer to go to the erotic massage places, but they seem to be more expensive in Amsterdam than the RLD.

So, if I want to spent 100-150 EUR / hour the best way possible, where is the place to go in your opinion?

BTW this is my first post to the Forum, but hope to make my fair bit of contributions in the future.[/QUOTE]Those girls need to eat and pay bills on Monday too. So yeah. As for options, all you need to do is what we call as RTFF (read the fcking forum) meaning read thru last few pages of this as well as NL general forum pages and you will have handful of information. Let me get you started, try park118. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Badcaptain;2483868]So, if I want to spent 100-150 EUR / hour the best way possible, where is the place to go in your opinion?[/QUOTE]I do think that RTFF is a useful advice. If you are however short of time than you should bear in mind that the RLD is 200 per hour. Normally the number of girls is lower on Monday but there will be enough choice. If you are not willing to pay that amount than you should try an option with girls that are a 6 at best. So park 118 was suggested. But you can also get an escort and hope you have a beautiful one that is giving you a good time. Another option is a small RLD area in Amsterdam that has some cheaper girls. For this you have to go to Maps and look for "Korte Korsjespoortsteeg, Amsterdam". This is not necessarily the best street as far as I know but it is the easiest way for me to guide you to that area. Just follow the red lights. The area is save but not as nice looking as "The Wallen" that everybody knows. Just remember that some girls in this area will still ask 200 per hour. So negotiate. A 100 per hour usually is available. But if you are short on time than probably park118 will be best and is easy to look up on the internet.

[QUOTE=Badcaptain;2483868]BTW this is my first post to the Forum, but hope to make my fair bit of contributions in the future.[/QUOTE]I'll hold you to that.

I was there with a friend.

50 euros to enter which can be cash or card (no AMEX). The space is quite small with 3 poles where the ladies can dance.

The ladies who were present did not have super big butts or breasts. 4 out of 6 could really dance on the pole.

They are not all attractive, there are a few with a nice face and / or body.

Didn't feel like you were forced to pay for a drink to socialize with the ladies. There is a big difference between the ladies, where one takes a glass of wine and the other immediately goes for the champagne.

The price of the drinks is of course overly expensive where easily 10-25 euros is asked on top of the price from outside.

25 euros for a lap dance of 5-10 minutes in which everyone is present has to be paid in cash. Or "more" upstairs in the private room for 150 per 30 min.

Well the latter is where a lot of discussion will come. Many of the ladies do nothing more than a fully naked dance in a private space or chill with you in the Jacuzzis.

If you want sex you will have to get the right lady. And preferably pay in cash so that she can get her share immediately. Sex has a higher chance if you go for at least 1 hour.

Also discussing what will happen in advance is very important otherwise you will come back with blue balls.

All in all, it's a nice addition to the city, but it doesn't come close to the US experience.

With increased rules for COVID there is a big change the club will close again until further notice.

Hello,

I am now in amsterdam. I would like to know what are some recommended escort sites that are trustworthy? I booked on one site, but it was a bait switch.

Would love to know decent sites for escorts.

I visited the RLD, there are some pretty girls there, but the service is very rushed.

Are there any good brothel recommendations?

I am looking for something within 100-$200 per fuck.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2479338]When I went home I saw some very beautiful ladies and will check on them next time. Ladies in general have few customers.[/QUOTE]When I was there a few weeks ago I saw some Asian (Thai? Ladies that I had not seen before. I had decided to check them out and went there last night with a huge wallet. But when I came to these windows all were shut. Not just by curtains as is seen quite often. That might indicate a customer inside or no lady inside at all. But this was different. The shutters (steel shutters like on shop windows) were let down. Quite a few windows in Dollebegijnensteeg and all windows in Sint Annendwarsstraat were closed by the police. So it seems. So today I looked all on the internet. The Dutch RLD site, the police, the services page of the city. I could not find a single thing. And this is a major thing happening. So I don't understand and will look further. Maybe one of you lot knows about it. It may be illegal women in the RLD area. Or maybe some drugs have been found. That last thing has happened in The Hague a few years ago. So quite possible. I lost my appetite seeing that. But Trompettersteeg and Oudekennissteeg do hold quite a few good looking ladies. The start of Dollebegijnensteeg also has a few beauties still. But the site of these shutters is gruesome. Haven't seen that before.

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2486601]Hello,

I am now in amsterdam. I would like to know what are some recommended escort sites that are trustworthy? I booked on one site, but it was a bait switch.

Would love to know decent sites for escorts.

I visited the RLD, there are some pretty girls there, but the service is very rushed.

Are there any good brothel recommendations?

I am looking for something within 100-$200 per fuck.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are many sites like [URL]eurogirlescort.com[/URL], [URL]topescortbabe.com[/URL], escort news. Eu.

[QUOTE=Badcaptain;2483868]Good afternoon!

Heading to Amsterdam on Monday for a short business trip. It will be my first time there, so hope you can give me some recommendations on where to go to have some fun. Obviously there is the RLD, but will that be a good choice on a Monday as well?

Usually I prefer to go to the erotic massage places, but they seem to be more expensive in Amsterdam than the RLD.

So, if I want to spent 100-150 EUR / hour the best way possible, where is the place to go in your opinion?

BTW this is my first post to the Forum, but hope to make my fair bit of contributions in the future.[/QUOTE]Places are many, but if you prefer massage, then you should look up online and book an appointment at your convenient time and place. If you are staying in a hotel that would be a good option IMO.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2486997]But the site of these shutters is gruesome. Haven't seen that before.[/QUOTE]I have seen it many times, particularly in the day time. Some window owners shut it down like that when they don't have a tenant for a shift. So it doesn't necessarily mean there's something going on.

[QUOTE=TerminateHer22;2481312]It would seem to me that the RLD accounts for a decent amount of tourism, no?[/QUOTE]Yes mate, they get lots of tourist crowd. Sometimes they become so busy that they need to manage crowd effectively by doing overtime.

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2486601]Hello,

I am now in amsterdam. I would like to know what are some recommended escort sites that are trustworthy? I booked on one site, but it was a bait switch.

Would love to know decent sites for escorts.

I visited the RLD, there are some pretty girls there, but the service is very rushed.

Are there any good brothel recommendations?

I am looking for something within 100-$200 per fuck.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you're still there visit kinky. NL and sexjobs. NL.

[QUOTE=Oneminuteboy;2488637]If you're still there visit kinky. NL and sexjobs. NL.[/QUOTE]Is it similar to ISG? The extension seems same!

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2486601]Hello,
I visited the RLD, there are some pretty girls there, but the service is very rushed.

Are there any good brothel recommendations?[/QUOTE]For that budget, it is not possible. $300 is more reasonable.

Here are few places, these are all high end. But in my opinion, it's difficult to find escorts in The Netherlands. It seems that the RLD, Sex Clubs and Brothels are all more popular than anything else by large margin.

- Park 118.

- Golden Key Club.

- Club LV.

- Strip Club Bonton.

- Sixsens.

- Smooci.

- Kinky, SexJobs, eurogirlescort, topescortbabe, escortnews.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2489182]
Here are few places, these are all high end. [/QUOTE]Park 118, Sixsens, Kinky, and SexJobs high end? Are you kidding me?

[QUOTE=JawDrop7;2488778]Is it similar to ISG? The extension seems same![/QUOTE]Uhm, no. The extension is the same because their servers are in the Netherlands.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2489182]For that budget, it is not possible. $300 is more reasonable.

Here are few places, these are all high end. But in my opinion, it's difficult to find escorts in The Netherlands. It seems that the RLD, Sex Clubs and Brothels are all more popular than anything else by large margin.

- Park 118.

- Golden Key Club.

- Club LV.

- Strip Club Bonton.

- Sixsens.

- Smooci.

- Kinky, SexJobs, eurogirlescort, topescortbabe, escortnews.[/QUOTE]Finding escorts via website might be difficult, but people can try dating apps to find.

[QUOTE=JawDrop7;2489300]Finding escorts via website might be difficult, but people can try dating apps to find.[/QUOTE]That isn't true. Using kinky and sex job gets you escorts easily. Just don't type amsterdam escort in a search engine. Those regular escort agencies are more prone to sending a different girl.

[QUOTE=JawDrop7;2488778]Is it similar to ISG? The extension seems same![/QUOTE]No these are directories you can loop up the girls.

Hookers (dot) NL is similar to ISG as it is a forum as well.

I am looking for reputable luxury escort agencies in the Netherlands.

I have been researching for a while and found seven agencies in europe that I am pretty certain are serious and genuinely luxurious unlike many other that make that claim. Ask, I will gladly tell you more about how I screened through the websites.

Aphrodite agency.

Ivana Models.

Amorette-international.

Felinesescort.

Escort-deluxe.

Swiss-eve.

Escort-models-international.

Now I am looking to expand this list with your help. I am mainly looking for escort agencies in UK, Netherlands and Colombia. I feel the potential for these countries are great though I haven't had any great success with finding great luxury agencies. Here is a couple indicators I use:

1. Review from independent sites. This is probably one of the most important things.

2. High quality pictures. High resolution, minimal beauty filter / retouch, no photoshop.

3. Agency taking their own pictures.

4. At least two years in the business.

5. Regularly updates. There shouldn't be months and months without new models or newsletter.

Please if you know anything, please do tell and motivate why you think a particular agency is so great.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2489260]Park 118, Sixsens, Kinky, and SexJobs high end? Are you kidding me?[/QUOTE]Not Sexjobs but the other two are relatively nice. I wouldn't call them bad? Shrug.

[QUOTE=JawDrop7;2489300]Finding escorts via website might be difficult, but people can try dating apps to find.[/QUOTE]Which dating apps?

So far with seeking SA I have had poor experiences. One here in Amsterdam with an absolute psycho that led nowhere. But I found an amazing firecracker on kinky, natalia be. She has videos and such and is real and amazing. I think the SA and dating app road is broken and leads nowhere. Stick to the tried and tested sites I guess. Also I am a newbie at all of this. Sexemodel in France and kinky here far better value and less emotionally draining than SA.

[QUOTE=Lusine99;2492568]So far with seeking SA I have had poor experiences. One here in Amsterdam with an absolute psycho that led nowhere. But I found an amazing firecracker on kinky, natalia be. She has videos and such and is real and amazing. I think the SA and dating app road is broken and leads nowhere. Stick to the tried and tested sites I guess. Also I am a newbie at all of this. Sexemodel in France and kinky here far better value and less emotionally draining than SA.[/QUOTE]Damn, I had never heard of Sexemodel. Thanks for this!

From my observations so far, SA (or any sugarbaby app) has very low success rates if you're looking for sex. Unless you throw barrels of cash at them.

Is the website inaccessible for visitors outside Europe and The Netherlands? Gives me a 1020 Error.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2495822]Is the website inaccessible for visitors outside Europe and The Netherlands? Gives me a 1020 Error.[/QUOTE]Just before the dot you need to add an s. In Holland it redirects but maybe not so in other countries.

Turns out I forget to add the s for [URL]hookers.com[/URL] in my post. I'm guessing access is forbidden for non-Dutch internet users.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2495822]Is the website inaccessible for visitors outside Europe and The Netherlands? Gives me a 1020 Error.[/QUOTE]It won't be of much help anyway. Due to the strict privacy laws in the Netherlands it's not allowed anymore to post addresses of the girls. The site is only a shadow of its former self and doomed to die.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2498341]It won't be of much help anyway. Due to the strict privacy laws in the Netherlands it's not allowed anymore to post addresses of the girls. The site is only a shadow of its former self and doomed to die.[/QUOTE]Is there an alternative? BTW, I found out yesterday that you can access it using Google Translate, but the webpage looks fucked up.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2498549]Is there an alternative? [/QUOTE]The only alternative that I know is the 'ijsberenforum'. But it's not as big as 'hookers' used to be.

I will be in Amsterdam in 2 weeks and interesting in meeting a girl from an escort agency to come to my hotel. Can anyone recommend any reputable agencies in Amsterdam with real pictures on their website, good quality girls and no bait and switch? Price is not an issue so looking for high class. There are so many websites and agencies in Amsterdam that it's seems very hard to find the legitimate ones. I'm finding it harder than London for example where it's quite obvious via the prices and the website if it's a legitimate agency with real pictures etc.

Any help appreciated.

I found an agency called Amsterdam Best Escort (dot com), that has videos of the girls and looks real. Does anyone know if this is legitimate? Otherwise, it seems like many of the agencies either have very airbrushed pics, some look fake, or otherwise, blurred faces and seem like a lottery.

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2502276]I found an agency called Amsterdam Best Escort (dot com), that has videos of the girls and looks real. Does anyone know if this is legitimate? Otherwise, it seems like many of the agencies either have very airbrushed pics, some look fake, or otherwise, blurred faces and seem like a lottery.[/QUOTE]Prostitution in Holland is legal. So, that might answer your question. There are many agencies that photoshop pictures beyond believe. I was a witness to that. I just watched two videos on that site. You can clearly see the girl looks a bit better in the pictures than in the video but not all that different. 180 per hour is not that much money. But, if you book a Dutch lady for this price, I am quite sure she won't kiss you and blow you with condom. So, maybe just try and let us know.

Has anyone been to Club Golden Key in Amsterdam? I've heard good things in person but haven't made the trip. Older reports a decade ago aren't positive but the club looks interesting.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2504891]Has anyone been to Club Golden Key in Amsterdam? I've heard good things in person but haven't made the trip. Older reports a decade ago aren't positive but the club looks interesting.[/QUOTE]Visited Golden Eye club in 2018!! Not sure about how its now -COVID!

250 Euros for an hour, girls are amazing, GFE is offer as Standard, as mentioned above not sure how it works now with COVID! I know here in London, many girls don't offer french kiss anymore.

Its more of an upmarket place compared to Park 118, Free entry, if your taxi drops you at their door step, they might charge you a fee, as it goes to the TAXI Service.

Hope it helps.

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2505024]Visited Golden Eye club in 2018!! Not sure about how its now -COVID!

250 Euros for an hour, girls are amazing, GFE is offer as Standard, as mentioned above not sure how it works now with COVID! I know here in London, many girls don't offer french kiss anymore.

Its more of an upmarket place compared to Park 118, Free entry, if your taxi drops you at their door step, they might charge you a fee, as it goes to the TAXI Service.

Hope it helps.

Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]That sounds amazing. Amsterdam doesn't like that great of a destination anymore. Too many scams.

Hi,

I'm new to the forum and have 1 question. Do Amsterdam prostitutes generally refuse clients they see as unattractive?

[QUOTE=Amstredam;2509014]Hi,

I'm new to the forum and have 1 question. Do Amsterdam prostitutes generally refuse clients they see as unattractive?[/QUOTE]Generally speaking: no. As long as you are well groomed and friendly they don't give a fuck what you look like. It's all about the money.

Hi, Is the RLD in Amsterdam open or closed? Thanks.

Closed.

You will have to use a website like kinky. NL or sexjobs. NL to have working girls come to you or meet them.

Looks like they're closing down the RLD for good and relocating.

[QUOTE]
Sex workers on the Red Light District react furiously to the mayor's plan presented today for closing part of the windows on the Red Light District and a new erotic centre elsewhere in the city. Still, it comes as no surprise to the sex workers: 'We already saw the mood,' says Felicia Anna of the Association for Sex Workers on the Red Light United. 'If you make it clear in every conversation that the sex workers on the Red Light District don't want to work in such an erotic centre at all, and don't want more windows to close, and it's always about the future of such an erotic centre, then you already know what time it is.'[/QUOTE][URL=https://redlightunited.wordpress.com/2020/11/06/sekswerkers-wallen-dit-bewijst-dat-de-burgemeester-niet-naar-ons-luistert/amp/?__twitter_impression=true]Sex workers Wallen: 'This proves that the mayor doesn't listen to us'[/URL]

The real kicker is that they are closing the RLD before the "Erotic Center" is even constructed and there are movements to stop tourists from smoking weed.

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2502084]I will be in Amsterdam in 2 weeks and interesting in meeting a girl from an escort agency to come to my hotel. Can anyone recommend any reputable agencies in Amsterdam with real pictures on their website, good quality girls and no bait and switch? Price is not an issue so looking for high class. There are so many websites and agencies in Amsterdam that it's seems very hard to find the legitimate ones. I'm finding it harder than London for example where it's quite obvious via the prices and the website if it's a legitimate agency with real pictures etc.

Any help appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have tried the next agencies and had decent to great time is all depends of the mood of the girl you meet I guess.

Nr 1 for me was [URL]https://www.beautyescortsamsterdam.com[/URL].

Nr 2 was [URL]https://www.escortserviceamsterdam.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=Giovanni12;2527507]I have tried the next agencies and had decent to great time is all depends of the mood of the girl you meet I guess.

Nr 1 for me was [URL]https://www.beautyescortsamsterdam.com[/URL].

Nr 2 was [URL]https://www.escortserviceamsterdam.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]Do you recommend any girls from these agencies which you have tried?

[QUOTE=Giovanni12;2527507]I have tried the next agencies and had decent to great time is all depends of the mood of the girl you meet I guess.

Nr 1 for me was [URL]https://www.beautyescortsamsterdam.com[/URL].

Nr 2 was [URL]https://www.escortserviceamsterdam.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]As the world scene gradually shifts toward escorts and other types of independent sex workers, and away from red-light districts and large brick & mortar incall places, the most valuable information you can share about escorts and escort agencies is who you saw, what services you received, and whether there were any upsells. For instance, if you wanted BBBJ, did she provide that service? Certainly a frustration of the Dutch system is that relatively more providers are CBJ only in comparison to other countries in Europe.

I think they have been planning on removing / relocating the RLD for years now. Always fallen short of actually achieving the goal as the majority of the window girls are against the move. However I believe this is the first time that the majority of political parties including the prime ministers party has all agreed to finally agree on this change.

I have mixed feelings about this, obviously the convenience of where the RLD is current located is a major plus for mongers that want to visit. But the problem lies that it's also extremely accessible to people that just want piss around and take photos and just gawk at the women and seeing them as some kind of tourist attraction, without the intention of paying for their services. The problem doesn't lie with the mongers or even the sex workers but it's the stag / hen parties and the drunks that cause all the issues. Now the sex workers are being punished for this.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2527314]Looks like they're closing down the RLD for good and relocating.

[URL=https://redlightunited.wordpress.com/2020/11/06/sekswerkers-wallen-dit-bewijst-dat-de-burgemeester-niet-naar-ons-luistert/amp/?__twitter_impression=true]Sex workers Wallen: 'This proves that the mayor doesn't listen to us'[/URL]

The real kicker is that they are closing the RLD before the "Erotic Center" is even constructed and there are movements to stop tourists from smoking weed.[/QUOTE]

I agree, there is way too much drunkenness in De Wallen that's out of control. It's too bad really, I feel like people have changed. Not everyone used to get so drunk and belligerent.

Anyone know if American Citizens with an overnight layover are allowed to leave the terminal to get a hotel? I have the possibility of having a 15 hour overnight layover and was looking at potentially getting a hotel and having an escort if it was possible. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have seen a few things here and there about the Schengen countries but it keeps changing quickly.

[QUOTE=JohnBravo83;2535651]Anyone know if American Citizens with an overnight layover are allowed to leave the terminal to get a hotel? I have the possibility of having a 15 hour overnight layover and was looking at potentially getting a hotel and having an escort if it was possible. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have seen a few things here and there about the Schengen countries but it keeps changing quickly.[/QUOTE]No, it's not allowed at the moment. And even if it was allowed to enter the country, you would not be able to get an escort (not legally anyway) because prostitution is not allowed at the moment.

[URL]https://www.government.nl/topics/c/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad[/URL]
[URL]https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/exemptions-to-the-entry-ban[/URL]

I could not agree more, have been there couple of years back to back and the hooliganism seems to stoop to new low everytime and that has not only ruined the experience but also ruined the dutch culture.

Local people have also become cold hearted because of rash tourism and I have seen that change over the years. And I don't blame them for this, they didn't ask for this.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2533836]I agree, there is way too much drunkenness in De Wallen that's out of control. It's too bad really, I feel like people have changed. Not everyone used to get so drunk and belligerent.[/QUOTE]

They are closing the RLD and closing (again for the first time) the coffee shops, why don't they just cover the canals, while they are at it?

Quite a few years ago they closed the coffee shops. Then they realized that they depend on the coffee shops. So they reopened them. Guess what's going to happen when the close the coffee shops and the windows this time?

Closing the RLD and closing (again for the first time) the coffee shops, is like a leopard changing his spots.

I know they want to make Amsterdam a Museum and not a party town. But they have this area called MUSEUMplein. Why not put all the MUSEUMS there? Why not make that area the cultural center of Amsterdam. And leave DeWallen the party center. Since it is already the party center of Amsterdam anyway.

Hello mates,

Seems like, I will be moving to Amsterdam for work for a bit, 6 - 12 months, and possible work location is Leiden.

I am sure, this might not be the right forum to ask, however I thought end of the day we all look for the same thing!

So how is Leiden in terms of mongering?

Where would you recommend to stay. Keeping work and mongering in mind!

Any help / suggestions / advice is highly appreciated.

Cheers,

Mike.

Hello everyone, I wonder if there have been any sightings of Polish Anna in the De Wallen of late or is it likely that she packed it in after so many years of quality service and headed back to Poland?

[QUOTE=OfficeMatt;2557960]Hello everyone, I wonder if there have been any sightings of Polish Anna in the De Wallen of late or is it likely that she packed it in after so many years of quality service and headed back to Poland?[/QUOTE]Sex workers are not allowed to work at the moment due to the lock down, so the RLDs are still closed, but as it looks now they will reopen again this Tuesday.

But I don't know if Anna is still around. I suppose you mean the lady with the big 'balloon' fake tits? I have not been to De Wallen for a long time.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2557638]
Seems like, I will be moving to Amsterdam for work for a bit, 6 - 12 months, and possible work location is Leiden.
I am sure, this might not be the right forum to ask, however I thought end of the day we all look for the same thing!
So how is Leiden in terms of mongering?
Where would you recommend to stay. Keeping work and mongering in mind!
Any help / suggestions / advice is highly appreciated.
[/QUOTE]Not much to do in Leiden. Maybe there are some 'privéhuizen' (brothels) but there is no RLD.
Nevertheless I would stay in Leiden if I were you, because you are close to your work then, but you are also right in between Den Haag and Amsterdam where the RLDs are.
From the central station in Leiden you can be in one of those RLDs within 30 to 45 minutes.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2559767]Not much to do in Leiden. Maybe there are some 'privhuizen' (brothels) but there is no RLD.
Nevertheless I would stay in Leiden if I were you, because you are close to your work then, but you are also right in between Den Haag and Amsterdam where the RLDs are.
From the central station in Leiden you can be in one of those RLDs within 30 to 45 minutes.[/QUOTE]Fully agree. Here is a link to the possibilities around Leiden. [URL]https://www.sekswerker.nu/leiden[/URL].

This list names three places in Leiden: 1 Leidenprive. NL does have good references but don't expect beauties 2 Tropical Heat Only heard one story and that didn't give me a clue. 3 Margaretha's Place does not have good references.

Then there is also mention of Salon Leiden. They do a massage until the end. Still on my bucket list [URL]https://leidenescort.nl/.[/URL] But most likely quite expensive. Well, just wait till paysex is allowed again and give it a go.

[QUOTE=OfficeMatt;2557960]Hello everyone, I wonder if there have been any sightings of Polish Anna in the De Wallen of late or is it likely that she packed it in after so many years of quality service and headed back to Poland?[/QUOTE]I have seen her in the pre Corona year but I don't like (large) sili's. But on a quite a few other rounds I did around the RLD she was not there. Once I spotted a large sili girl in her room but it was not her. Good luck.

Thanks. That was a tad more helpful than the last reply. Sometimes it is best to answer the question asked and leave your opinions to yourself.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2559811]I have seen her in the pre Corona year but I don't like (large) sili's. But on a quite a few other rounds I did around the RLD she was not there. Once I spotted a large sili girl in her room but it was not her. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

Saturday I visited my favorite girl in Amsterdam and she told me she will be moving to Stoofsteeg. As of July 1st the windows in the area of Dollebegijnensteeg, Trompettersteeg and Sint Annenstraat will be closed. The situation of "La vie en rose" is not clear yet. The girls already are moving to other streets, for example Oude Kennissteeg and Stoofsteeg. So if you still have fond memories of Dollebegijnensteeg you should pay it a visit this week. In my opinion it once was the street with the best and most beautiful hookers (around 2008). Many memories there It's still 'wait and see' what will happen to the rest of the RLD in Amsterdam. On Dutch websites Amsterdam RLD is considered an issue of the past. I don't know whether that is true but it surely is far from it's former glory. Unfortunately The Haque is still worse.

I have decided to stay in Amsterdam as it seems to be better options, and as an alternative I am keeping Hague.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2559810]Fully agree. Here is a link to the possibilities around Leiden. [URL]https://www.sekswerker.nu/leiden[/URL].

This list names three places in Leiden: 1 Leidenprive. NL does have good references but don't expect beauties 2 Tropical Heat Only heard one story and that didn't give me a clue. 3 Margaretha's Place does not have good references.

Then there is also mention of Salon Leiden. They do a massage until the end. Still on my bucket list [URL]https://leidenescort.nl/.[/URL] But most likely quite expensive. Well, just wait till paysex is allowed again and give it a go.[/QUOTE]

Hello!

Been awhile since I was active here. But I'm planning a trip in August, but I'm torn between going to Amsterdam, the Hague or Frankfurt (for FKK). Been checking out the forums for the last couple of days but it seems that everything is in a strange position at this time. Like rates are weird and some upsells a lot etc. Is anyone currently in any of those cities or have been in the last couple of days / weeks? I haven't been in either city for about 3 years.

Here are some pro / con's that I see about the different cities.

Amsterdam: RLD is bigger / better than Frankfurt and possibly the Hague.

Prive park 118 is in the dam and they have a good reputation and I've had great experiences and the rates are great.

More of a night life than the Hague and Frankfurt.

The Hague: The upselling is rarely done in the Hague RLD from when I was there.

Cheaper rates depending on which RLD you go to.

The quality is quite good from what I remember.

Diane's secret is there.

A little more expensive prive but cheaper RLD. Hotels seems more expensive.

Frankfurt: Cheaper travel and hotels.

Bigger RLD but worse quality.

Cheaper RLD too if I recall correctly.

The many FKK like sharks and Mainhatten (Sharks being the favorite out of the two for me).

No smoking weed.

FKK costs to enter but the rates inside are cheaper (unless that has changed).

If I go to Frankfurt it is 99% likely I will only go to the FKK and the entrance fee alone is going to be expensive.

Harsher Covid restrictions.

Any ideas of which one of those 3 are the best option at the moment? Or are there any other options? Money is a factor in this equation too unfortunately. I don't want to go too cheap or too expensive. Otherwise the choice would have been much easier.

As far as I know, Frankfurt and the long with the rest of Germany has a better scene along with FKKs. The Dutch Government has been trying to clean up Amsterdam for years.

I am will be traveling to Amsterdam next week and have reading the forum to understand the lay of the land. I understand and have tried RLD on a previous trip and the different brothels, I also wanted to find what is the main site where independent girls or agencies advertise? For instance in my home town we use massagerepublic but I have not been able to find the equivalent that is popular there, or is it only really the brothels and RLD?

Thanks!

Dd.

[QUOTE=DimDerp;2580046]I am will be traveling to Amsterdam next week and have reading the forum to understand the lay of the land. I understand and have tried RLD on a previous trip and the different brothels, I also wanted to find what is the main site where independent girls or agencies advertise? For instance in my home town we use massagerepublic but I have not been able to find the equivalent that is popular there, or is it only really the brothels and RLD?

Thanks!

Dd.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.hookers.nl/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Stykler;2580158][URL]https://www.hookers.nl/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hookers is (almost) gone now, but there are a couple of other sites where independent girls advertise that are mentioned here quite often. Just read this thread.

[QUOTE=Momosa;2579486]Any ideas of which one of those 3 are the best option at the moment? Or are there any other options? Money is a factor in this equation too unfortunately. I don't want to go too cheap or too expensive. Otherwise the choice would have been much easier.[/QUOTE]If the entrance fee at FKK is really an issue for you I would recommend you to go to The Hague. You already know the cheaper RLD. I saw some pretty girls there a few weeks ago. You can try to find a cheap hotel. If you succeed in that, go to The Hague. Holland is much more easy going at the moment. No masks in shops etc. In Germany you still need masks in shops and often an FPP2 mask. Amsterdam RLD at night has got too expensive.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2581427]Hookers is (almost) gone now, but there are a couple of other sites where independent girls advertise that are mentioned here quite often. Just read this thread.[/QUOTE]You are perfectly alright but this one is shorter kinky. NL.

How's Amsterdam with all the pandemic? Are things recovered yet including night clubs and bars? And I really want to know if they shutdown the weed bars.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2586780]How's Amsterdam with all the pandemic? Are things recovered yet including night clubs and bars? And I really want to know if they shutdown the weed bars.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/coronavirus-covid-19/cultuur-uitgaan-en-sport/horeca-en-evenementen[/URL] It translates to English in Google translate easily. Bars are open, Discos and night clubs are closed. The weed bars (coffeeshops) are open. On top of that. All restrictions were lifted at the end of June but that backfired. You can read that in the press. Opening of nightclubs will not happen before August 14. IMHO it will be postponed. Delta variant has arrived and that has consequences.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2582449] Amsterdam RLD at night has got too expensive.[/QUOTE]Are you meaning the area in general for food and drinks or the window girls or indeed both?

If the window girls then how much are they now, €50 on my last visit.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2587214][URL]https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/coronavirus-covid-19/cultuur-uitgaan-en-sport/horeca-en-evenementen[/URL] It translates to English in Google translate easily. Bars are open, Discos and night clubs are closed. The weed bars (coffeeshops) are open. On top of that. All restrictions were lifted at the end of June but that backfired. You can read that in the press. Opening of nightclubs will not happen before August 14. IMHO it will be postponed. Delta variant has arrived and that has consequences.[/QUOTE]Sigh. That is disappointing. Is there any forecasting when things will re-open? Hopefully before the Holidays?

Bumped into an Indian tourist chick who will be leaving Amsterdam in few weeks. She wanted some financial help. Think of the chance of running into a non pro in Amsterdam.

The sex was superb and she is petite and lithe. So multiple positions. Overall worth every penny.

She was open to meeting a select few mates to.

Happy humping.

[QUOTE=Oneminuteboy;2513249]Closed.

You will have to use a website like kinky. NL or sexjobs. NL to have working girls come to you or meet them.[/QUOTE]Please try out [URL]https://www.beautyescortsamsterdam.com[/URL] is the best escort agency I try so far in Amsterdam.

[QUOTE=JackOfNone;2527652]Do you recommend any girls from these agencies which you have tried?[/QUOTE]Eva, Clara, Meghan and Divina.

[QUOTE=Giovanni12;2588469]Please try out [URL]https://www.beautyescortsamsterdam.com[/URL] is the best escort agency I try so far in Amsterdam.[/QUOTE]Really!

All photos are fake / stolen from other agencies. I recognize at least 5 well-known escorts from London. Most of them are not working now, due Covid-19.

Really!

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2587456]Sigh. That is disappointing. Is there any forecasting when things will re-open? Hopefully before the Holidays?[/QUOTE]What do you mean by the Holidays?

Speech of Prime minister is here:. [URL]https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten/mediateksten/2021/08/02/letterlijke-tekst-persmoment[/URL] It can be translated by Google. This one is the catch: "We will make an integral decision on August 13 about what to do next in the coming weeks and months, that means from August 14 onwards. So there will also be a press conference on August 13 in the evening." So one more week of waiting.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2587262]Are you meaning the area in general for food and drinks or the window girls or indeed both? If the window girls then how much are they now, 50 on my last visit.[/QUOTE]If you can find a girl for 50 euros at night, then you are lucky. I never do 50 euro. Too short for me. Girls at night do not really have a standard price anymore. I was offered 150 for 30 minutes, for example.

[QUOTE=Giovanni12;2588469]Please try out [URL]https://www.beautyescortsamsterdam.com[/URL] is the best escort agency I try so far in Amsterdam.[/QUOTE]Really, 3 posts in all. And what does that mean "Please try out", talk of a fellow monger?

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2587262]If the window girls then how much are they now, 50 on my last visit.[/QUOTE]I checked this for you. I seldom go the RLD in the evening. But this evening I gave it a go. First of all: the small streets are no longer part of the RLD. That means that the Dollebegijnensteeg and around are closed for good. Only 'Rose' is still open and pretty obsolete. As I already told before, the ladies don't stick to a uniform price any longer. I asked for half an hour suck and fuck. Well, the answers differed from 100 euro to 150 euro to 200 euro and one lady even asked 300 euro. I am still amazed at that last one. You can still get the 100 per half hour (so probably 50 euro for 15 minutes too) but you have to negotiate or better simply ask for what she wants. Negotiating usually means lesser service. One lady stood out from the rest. First she asked me 100 for half an hour. Then I asked suck and fuck? No just a blowjob and a handjob. If I wanted to fuck her, I needed to pay 200 per half hour. She had a special package: everything you want, including anal, for 400 euro, one hour. I declined. Most windows were taken. Quite a few beauties around. A lot of people roaming the streets. The RLD is pretty much alive at the moment.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2589514]I checked this for you. I seldom go the RLD in the evening. But this evening I gave it a go. First of all: the small streets are no longer part of the RLD. That means that the Dollebegijnensteeg and around are closed for good. Only 'Rose' is still open and pretty obsolete. As I already told before, the ladies don't stick to a uniform price any longer. I asked for half an hour suck and fuck. Well, the answers differed from 100 euro to 150 euro to 200 euro and one lady even asked 300 euro. I am still amazed at that last one. You can still get the 100 per half hour (so probably 50 euro for 15 minutes too) but you have to negotiate or better simply ask for what she wants. Negotiating usually means lesser service. One lady stood out from the rest. First she asked me 100 for half an hour. Then I asked suck and fuck? No just a blowjob and a handjob. If I wanted to fuck her, I needed to pay 200 per half hour. She had a special package: everything you want, including anal, for 400 euro, one hour. I declined. Most windows were taken. Quite a few beauties around. A lot of people roaming the streets. The RLD is pretty much alive at the moment.[/QUOTE]I was there last month. The main area was open. Trompettersteeg area was dead. The women are still hot as fuck. One of the main girls asked for 200. It was worth it. Her body and face are amazing. She makes Playboy models look like ugly chicks. I managed a half hour recording with another: she trusts me. Anyone have any luck with video? I find that it is difficult unless they know you.

[QUOTE=Enriquem1995;2589626]I was there last month. The main area was open. Trompettersteeg area was dead. The women are still hot as fuck. One of the main girls asked for 200. It was worth it. Her body and face are amazing. She makes Playboy models look like ugly chicks. I managed a half hour recording with another: she trusts me. Anyone have any luck with video? I find that it is difficult unless they know you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review, was that 200 for 1 hour or half hour?

Hi all!

My apologies. I know that I have not posted much here. I am visiting Amsterdam right now and wanted to know where exactly is the red light district? I've read that it was in De Wallen before, but it seems that most of the window girls have packed up and moved elsewhere? Any pointers would be much appreciated. I worry that I won't be able to enjoy this hobby much longer and was hoping to have one more go before I retire.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Eyeshield2145;2591838]Hi all!

My apologies. I know that I have not posted much here. I am visiting Amsterdam right now and wanted to know where exactly is the red light district? I've read that it was in De Wallen before, but it seems that most of the window girls have packed up and moved elsewhere? Any pointers would be much appreciated. I worry that I won't be able to enjoy this hobby much longer and was hoping to have one more go before I retire.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Just put this one in Google Maps "Oudezijds Achterburgwal". During the day there is not much action anymore. Go there from around 9 pm onward.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2587456]Sigh. That is disappointing. Is there any forecasting when things will re-open? Hopefully before the Holidays?[/QUOTE]Prime minister had a press conference yesterday. It is here. Google translate usually allows an understanding. [URL]https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten/mediateksten/2021/08/13/letterlijke-tekst-persconferentie-minister-president-rutte-en-minister-de-jonge-13-augustus-2021[/URL] Most important to you is that nothing much will change till 20 September. His intention is to skip most rules on September 20th but only on September 17 the decision will become a definitive one. On 1 November he wants to skip all Corona rules. The restrictions on nightclubs and Discos will be among the last ones to be lifted. So, for sure they stay closed till November 1st.

[QUOTE=Eyeshield2145;2591838]Hi all!

My apologies. I know that I have not posted much here. I am visiting Amsterdam right now and wanted to know where exactly is the red light district? I've read that it was in De Wallen before, but it seems that most of the window girls have packed up and moved elsewhere? Any pointers would be much appreciated. I worry that I won't be able to enjoy this hobby much longer and was hoping to have one more go before I retire.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Quite a few window girls operating on the main canal side streets as well as the alleys. I counted at least 25-30 windows operating, yesterday night. Even the crowds are back. It was packed yesterday. Midnight deadline continues though.

On a side note, any guys in town who want to grab a beer and explore tonight?

[QUOTE=ArisCasa;2592522]Even the crowds are back. It was packed yesterday. Midnight deadline continues though.[/QUOTE]That is the same what I saw, last week in the evening. Today I went there in the afternoon. It was dead on a sunny Saturday afternoon. Only some girls in Oudekennissteeg and some in Stoofsteeg. I saw only one girl on Oudezijds Achterburgwal. So, not too good news. My favorite has gone. Only good news was that "La vie en rose" or just "Rose" had some nice girls during the day. You can still get a decent looking girl during the day but there are less than 20 girls in total. During the night that was somewhere between 100 and 150. So, I wouldn't be surprised if the RLD at daytime is a thing of the past. Around 2008 there used to be at least 150 girls in total during the day.

About the midnight deadline. It is supposed to be lifted on September 20th but only if the number of infections is not too high by then. Same thing applies to the bars and restaurants.

[QUOTE=Psybram;2587758]Bumped into an Indian tourist chick who will be leaving Amsterdam in few weeks. She wanted some financial help. Think of the chance of running into a non pro in Amsterdam.

The sex was superb and she is petite and lithe. So multiple positions. Overall worth every penny.

She was open to meeting a select few mates to.

Happy humping.[/QUOTE]Would be great if you can share details!

Sounds like things might pickup after September 20th. Question, is anyone else getting blocked by hookers, kinky and sexjobs that are trying to connect from outside Amsterdam? I am trying to get a feel for if things have recovered, yet.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2595506]Sounds like things might pickup after September 20th. Question, is anyone else getting blocked by hookers, kinky and sexjobs that are trying to connect from outside Amsterdam? I am trying to get a feel for if things have recovered, yet.[/QUOTE]Hookers is as good as down. Only info on their board is that they have to stop due to privacy reasons. No problems for reaching websites. Probably your own settings or internet provider.

As of a couple of weeks ago I cannot access kinky. NL.

I keep getting an error 1020 from cloudflare.

Hoping someone can share some insight as to what is happening.

How can I access again?

Works for me, if you are using a VPN you need to switch it to a nearby location or NL even for that matter.

[QUOTE=BrianKaneman;2597896]As of a couple of weeks ago I cannot access kinky. NL.

I keep getting an error 1020 from cloudflare.

Hoping someone can share some insight as to what is happening.

How can I access again?[/QUOTE]

Yes, hookers. NL and some other websites are gone. Reason given: privacy matters. Real reason: I don't know but a "certain tendency" is going on since several years in Netherlands. Within a few years all is legally left is your right hand.

Mates,

I have been in AMS serveral time in last few years, and one thing I have learned is. The RLD is not the right place if you take mongering seriously!

Absolutly, RLD is touristic, there are lots of brothels in AMS and around where you can relax and choose the girls, and give you a better service than the RLD.

And again, Amsterdam being touristic, there are lot of upselling happening as well.

I am just sharing a link, which list few of them, but do your own homework, you can call them up and ask the prices, and choose which one you want to go.

Some of them won't have a door charge, if you don't land in a taxi in front of the door! As they don't have to pay the taxi as cut!

[URL]https://brothel-in.com/amsterdam/[/URL]

I am sure, if you read all the post in this thread, you will find the references! Just to save some time for some of you.

Good luck guys!

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I've never had any luck with the listing on brothel-in, it's either old places referenced or whatever tourist traps in the city.

Has anyone been back since the pandemic? Reading the local forums. It seems the Dutch authorities have closed or "sold" some windows in the North West area of De Wallen. May anyone care to comment? How many windows are even left now?

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2603689]I've never had any luck with the listing on brothel-in, it's either old places referenced or whatever tourist traps in the city.

Has anyone been back since the pandemic? Reading the local forums. It seems the Dutch authorities have closed or "sold" some windows in the North West area of De Wallen. May anyone care to comment? How many windows are even left now?[/QUOTE]Brothels in Amsterdam are not the place to go, for sure. I have been quite clear here that the small alleys part of the RLD is closed by now with the exception of "La vie en Rose" or just "Rose" nowadays. I actually came here to report about the decisions by our government yesterday. There won't be all that much change until November. Except for the 1. 5 meters rule. That will be abolished on September 25th. So, more people allowed in bars and restaurants but closing time will remain 00:00. Discos and night clubs are allowed to open their doors just as long as they close them before midnight. Our government seems to like a joke.

Yesterday I had some time to kill. Nice weather, walking along the Amsterdam canals. Finished at the RLD and found it to be quite different from a few weeks ago. Now "Oude Kennissteeg" and "Stoofsteeg" held quite a few beautiful ladies during the daytime. Even my favorite had returned. Couldn't resist her. Hers is the first window on the left in "Stoofsteeg" if you enter from the Canal. But there were quite a few more beauties around. OK, only two streets but if you are in Amsterdam than you could just go there and try your luck. I know I will. And it seems to me that now with the closing time staying at 00:00, till November at least, most daytime ladies will continue during the evening, till 00:00.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2605648]Hers is the first window on the left in "Stoofsteeg" if you enter from the Canal.[/QUOTE]You always enter the Stoofsteeg coming from a canal, because there is a canal at both ends of the street, haha.

Have other streets permanently closed or are these earlier reports of window closures exaggerated?

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2604652]Brothels in Amsterdam are not the place to go, for sure. I have been quite clear here that the small alleys part of the RLD is closed by now with the exception of "La vie en Rose" or just "Rose" nowadays. I actually came here to report about the decisions by our government yesterday. There won't be all that much change until November. Except for the 1. 5 meters rule. That will be abolished on September 25th. So, more people allowed in bars and restaurants but closing time will remain 00:00. Discos and night clubs are allowed to open their doors just as long as they close them before midnight. Our government seems to like a joke.[/QUOTE]That's still an improvement.

When do night clubs and bars remain open late? November?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2605895]You always enter the Stoofsteeg coming from a canal, because there is a canal at both ends of the street, haha.[/QUOTE]Correct. Amsterdam is so full of canals, so those are not all that helpful with directions, haha. In Dollebegijnensteeg this was quite useful and that was were she could be found a few months ago, hence the mistake. She is to be found at the first window on the left, just having passed cafe "Stoof". On holiday for 3 weeks now, by the way. Smileys not allowed, not very helpful as well.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2606587]That's still an improvement.

When do night clubs and bars remain open late? November?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten/mediateksten/2021/09/14/letterlijke-tekst-persconferentie-minister-president-rutte-en-minister-de-jonge-14-september-2021[/URL]

Use google / translate and you can read everything about it. Just one extra: if you go indoors than you need a pass (E. G. Proof of Corona vaccination), outdoors you don't. Detail: if you are outdoors and want to pee indoors than you need to show your pass before peeing. Our government likes to joke around a bit. I suspect that the opening of bars after midnight might take quite a bit longer. It's not likely but if it is March '22 I would not be surprised.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2606586]Have other streets permanently closed or are these earlier reports of window closures exaggerated?[/QUOTE]Nothing much changed. No exaggerations from my part. Just to be clear: Sint Annenstraat, Dollebegijnensteeg, Trompettersteeg, Sint Annendwarsstraat, Bethlehemsteeg and Goldbergersteeg are closed now. But with these small details. Goldbergersteeg is closed for a long time now (still don't like it). At the end of Bethlehemsteeg you have "La vie en Rose" (Rooms in an indoor area) that is still open and two rooms at the end of the alley itself. They are very far from the rest of the RLD and therefore destined to lose money only. I expect them to close sooner or later. Around the church has still windows that are open. But the streets that were once the very best of the Amsterdam RLD are closed now.

Damn, how many rooms were lost from the pandemic? But it seems there are at least 100+ Left around the city centre?

I have some great memories at la vien rose. Those windows / rooms right besides la vie en rose had some beauties in 2017 ,when I made most it.

Is la vi en rose closed? It was really good and cheap back in the day.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2606800]Nothing much changed. No exaggerations from my part. Just to be clear: Sint Annenstraat, Dollebegijnensteeg, Trompettersteeg, Sint Annendwarsstraat, Bethlehemsteeg and Goldbergersteeg are closed now. But with these small details. Goldbergersteeg is closed for a long time now (still don't like it). At the end of Bethlehemsteeg you have "La vie en Rose" (Rooms in an indoor area) that is still open and two rooms at the end of the alley itself. They are very far from the rest of the RLD and therefore destined to lose money only. I expect them to close sooner or later. Around the church has still windows that are open. But the streets that were once the very best of the Amsterdam RLD are closed now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2607416]Damn, how many rooms were lost from the pandemic? But it seems there are at least 100+ Left around the city centre?[/QUOTE]I think it has nothing to do with the pandemic, but only with the local government's plans to relocate the RLD.

[QUOTE=UCantcMeBro;2607645]I have some great memories at la vien rose. Those windows / rooms right besides la vie en rose had some beauties in 2017 ,when I made most it.

Is la vi en rose closed? It was really good and cheap back in the day.[/QUOTE]No it's still open but it's a lot like this one [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix[/URL] All of the small alleys area has been closed. The authorities have bought some of the buildings and when they ran out of money they have made an arrangement with a big insurance company (Achmea) to buy the other buildings. Well, they have a high bargaining power but one guy seems to simply not give in. So for that reason 'La vie en rose' still has rooms with girls. The girls there actually are better looking than before (was there only a few weeks ago). It's just that you have to walk all down the alley of Bethlehemsteeg to find two rooms at the end, then hop in to 'La vie en Rose' and have five more girls or so. If you don't like them you have to go all the way back to 'Oude Kennissteeg' to find other girls. Not many men will do that. So it's destined to peter out.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2608188]I think it has nothing to do with the pandemic, but only with the local government's plans to relocate the RLD.[/QUOTE]So true. I think there's still about 150-200 rooms available. Maybe 50 at the Ruysdaelkade and some 100-150 around the Singel. Still a lot, but the heart has gone.

Do you think that escorting will die out in the Netherlands after this or just move online?

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2609677]Do you think that escorting will die out in the Netherlands after this or just move online?[/QUOTE]To be clear, escorting is a type of prostitution. Look like you are confused about the Amsterdam windows and its fate due to social and political scenarios, with other aspects of prostitution. Escorting is that type of prostitution where a "working girl" escorts you around in exchange of money. It can be for an out of town trip, event, dinner, night club or simply visit your home / hotel and provide you company including sex. The escort could be independent, pimped or provided by an agency.

The windows in Amsterdam and elsewhere in Netherlands / Belgium and other places are mini brothels, where a woman engages in prostitution in a small room, which has a large glass window / door on the street side, she being clearly visible for paying potential customers.

The city govt of Amsterdam, under pressure from locals and society at large, wants to shut down / reduce the number of these prostitution venue / rooms in Central Amsterdam near the station, and move it into an integrated venue away from the centre, probably in a less residential / touristy area.

In view of this, why would escort business or any other type of prostitution like brothels, sex clubs, street pick up or bar pickups or any other form of prostitution come to an end?? The two are unrelated, by and large, unless Netherlands makes prostitution itself illegal / unlawful. Why the confusion?

That's a good point you raise and I didn't think of it that way. I guess that if one of them decline the though process is so would the other. I don't think Amsterdam is generally known as a big escorting destination either.

What are the local boards for Amsterdam? Is just hookers NL? Ignatzmice seems to be defunct with people just complaining.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2614321]What are the local boards for Amsterdam? Is just hookers NL? Ignatzmice seems to be defunct with people just complaining.[/QUOTE]Can concur on that. Ignatzmice used to be a good resource but with new ownership it went down the drain quickly. Heavy handed and conspiratorial moderation also killed it.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2614321]What are the local boards for Amsterdam? Is just hookers NL? Ignatzmice seems to be defunct with people just complaining.[/QUOTE]Hookers is closed, most likely forever.

[QUOTE=OfficeMatt;2614818]Can concur on that. Ignatzmice used to be a good resource but with new ownership it went down the drain quickly. Heavy handed and conspiratorial moderation also killed it.[/QUOTE]Exactly this. Why would a new owner buy a site only to destroy it? Doesn't make much sense to me, but Ignatzmice is not worth any bandwidth at the moment.

I think there is still a subforum buried inside of hookernls, and it looks like some parts of Ignatzmice are still updated but outside of that it's hard to get info on the scene for ams.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2605648]Y . Hers is the first window on the left in "Stoofsteeg" if you enter from the Canal. But there were quite a few more beauties around. OK, only two streets but if you are in Amsterdam than you could just go there and try your luck..[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am planning to visit Amsterdam in Feb 2022.

How much do these ladies charge for 30 minutes? And 1 HR?

I read someplace 50 euros. That is only for 20 minutes?

Do these women in Amsterdam allow you to kiss & caress their bodies?

Will the window gals by the canals still be open in Feb 22?

Everything is negotiable so just ask, but yes 50 Euros for about 20 minutes. You will probably be asked to pay at least 100 Euros for what you are asking for (more time, more specific request).

The window girls will not be going anywhere that soon.

[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2616017]Hi,

I am planning to visit Amsterdam in Feb 2022.

How much do these ladies charge for 30 minutes? And 1 HR?

I read someplace 50 euros. That is only for 20 minutes?

Do these women in Amsterdam allow you to kiss & caress their bodies?

Will the window gals by the canals still be open in Feb 22?[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2phCYhsp43Y&t=298s[/URL]

This does not sound good.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2618388][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2phCYhsp43Y&t=298s[/URL]

This does not sound good.[/QUOTE]That depends. It would be quite OK if there would be room for a SC in the erotic center. If it is easily reached by public transport or has a lot of parking space, that would be OK too. That would be different from the current situation but not necessarily bad for punters. I guess it would even be better. Especially with a SC in the German style. The business men and the sex workers are not that interested. So that might be a problem.

On the video. I saw that sex worker once. I had to laugh. I thought she was on a bet with someone to pose as a prostitute for one day, playing the ukulele or something. A lot of journalists in Holland try to change their boring life with a documentary on the RLD. Well, we got to please the Aussies too now. Who's next.

I recently had a couple of days in Amsterdam. I first walked around the RLD after so many years. I don't know if because of Covid, time or whatever, but I got the impression that there are now less windows than last time I was there. On the other hand, the girls there were just breath-taking, even better than FKK girls IMHO. However, the RLD is more marketing than mongering, hence I just looked over there to kill time and then planned for the real action.I was tempted by Love Club 21, but, since I RTFF, I spotted a negative report here, corroborated by other negative reviews on the internet.

I wanted to avoid rip offs, hence I checked on k i n k y . n l and I bumped into Nicha, a very attractive young Thai lady. She receives in South Amsterdam, which is far from the RLD but very close to my hotel. As I was on borrowed time, I opted for her. We agreed for 45 minutes sex + massage for 120 e (all extras, e. g. , BBBJ, rimming, CIM, etc. are 20 e more). I was particularly impressed by her bust which stood out even more as she is a tiny hottie. I went for the BBBJ and it was worth the extra. She gave me a long BBBJ with lot of saliva and she went down to the balls while I was playing with her big tits. We eventually switched to the DATY that she appreciated a lot and turned into 69. After she came, she rested her feet on my shoulder and I started fuc*ing her, then changing a few positions before cuming. Cannot really forget those boobs bouncing while I was ban*ing her. She then gave me an after all decent massage for a few minutes, even if this was not what she does best: the.

Damage: 45 minutes 140 e (120 + 20 BBBJ).

IMHO, I tend to agree with people saying here in the forum that Amsterdam is not after all the best placefor our hobby. The RLD is more about marketing than P4P, while other options are somewhat more expensive than elsewhere in Europe. In my experience, however, I got the feeling that after all the incall scene may be the best option if you have limited time to explore other avenues.

Cheers.

Hi,

My very first post on the forums.

First a big thank you for all the info and reports that are available here.

Quick question post covid which is the best online agency to order a girl to the hotel. Online it seems desire escorts is supposedly good but just haven't seen any reviews on the forum of anyone in particular. Kinky is not working.

On adult work, I have tried Daria and Alessandra a few times (based on recos here) and was not disappointed but am a bit bored of them and Alessandra is no longer a red head.

Not a fan of RLD although have found some good ones in the single area. Have tried park 18 but it was a bit of hit and miss.

Planning to be in Amsterdam soon and was thinking having someone over at the hotel budget around 150 to 300 for an hour.

Any recos?

Not a big fan of scams and first trials and would prefer recos only.

Thanks.

That sir, was a fine trip report. I will be there mid-November for a few days and then a couple nights in early December so I will have to take a good look at that site.

Are there a lot of goth girl window girls?

[QUOTE=Yhsbs;2624249]Are there a lot of goth girl window girls?[/QUOTE]The simple answer is 'No'. I have seen the occasional one every now and then. But usually they are not popular and disappear quickly. I wonder if the Singel area has some. I pinpointed that area in an earlier post. If you however are interested in BDSM window girls then you should go to 'Geleenstraat' in The Hague. There used to be a lot of them there and I guess they are still there but The Hague is a bit on and off these days. So I don't go there that often anymore.

Yesterday I went to see my favourite girl. Good as always but that is not what I wanted to write about. Right now the windows have to be closed at 18:00 and that means the night crew is out of work. But those that could get a room in daytime have shifted to the day crew. Even in the heydays around 2008 I have not seen so many girls during the day. And most certainly not that many beautiful girls. So, go there during daytime if you are around. Almost all windows taken except for a few that belong to a new owner who doesn't have his license straight yet. Also, get in before 17:20 as girls are told not to work beyond 18:00. Last thing: 'La vie en rose' has petered out. Not worth the long walk anymore.

Ended up in Amsterdam on Business a few weeks ago and decided to head back to Park 118. This was not my first time at 118, and of all the options in the 'Dam, I definitely prefer the discretion approach of a house.

As usual, once in the room, I was introduced to the girls that were available. The selection was very good, a bit difficult to choose. There were a couple of really adorable girls I would have liked to have met, including one young lady, Sara, who is super cute, seemed to click with me right away during the initial intro. I have found that going with one's gut is the best option, so I decided to meet her. Really glad I did. After the discussion of activities and related price, we were able to relax and get to know each other.

Sara is amazing! She is super sexy and extremely passionate. Sweet personality that makes it easy to talk to her and spend time with. She is intense, like being with a really horny girlfriend who had not seen you in a really long time. She has a body that is really fun to get to know. Awesome Ass!! Intense make out sessions that lead to incredible oral sessions, various positions and all that follows. There is no question she rocked my world and left me truly spent.

After our time together, a quick shower to cleanup and I was on my way. This session again proves why Park118 is (in my opinion) one of the best houses in Amsterdam, as they do seem to have the best ladies. Pricing was comparable to other options there, but definitely a bargain as compared to the US. And Sara was definitely one of my top 3 I have been with. If I lived in Amsterdam, no question I would see Sara on a regular basis! (and drain my bank account, as well as me!) I highly recommend her!

Stay Safe!

Park 118 isn't bad but the availability of girls varies a ton.

For the locals, would it make sense to visit the city between Christmas and New Years? I want to make a quick trip but it seems that with all of the lockdowns I'm questioning if it'll be worth it.

I would wait until the very last moment to book a flight and hotel. A lot can happen between now and Christmas, including a total lock down. The situation is not getting any better in Holland, only worse.

Gotcha, hopefully things will change sooner than later.

Unfortunately I was right: the situation has deteriorated. There will be a lockdown in the Netherlands, starting from today, up to and including January 14. This means that all non-essential stores and services will be closed, and that includes sex workers I'm afraid. Even though they are not specifically mentioned on the government's site.

[URL]https://www.government.nl/topics/c/coronavirus-covid-19/tackling-new-coronavirus-in-the-netherlands/coronavirus-measures-in-brief[/URL]

From Saturday onward you can go to a sex worker again. But only until 17:00. But, unfortunately the bars and restaurants remain closed.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2651086]From Saturday onward you can go to a sex worker again. But only until 17:00. But, unfortunately the bars and restaurants remain closed.[/QUOTE]There are lots of sexworkers working, only it is not legal. Just go to kinky. NL and make a choice.

[QUOTE=FreekJansen;2651136]There are lots of sexworkers working, only it is not legal. Just go to kinky. NL and make a choice.[/QUOTE]Seems like a decent selection at that site. To clarify, are the girls listed as 'Prive ontvangst' or 'Escort Inbound' girls that have their own in calls, or are they outcall only? I also see standard prices and more expensive prices for 'Escort'. Is the latter price the cost of FS, or is that more of a 'take a girl out to dinner' price?

[QUOTE=FreekJansen;2651136]There are lots of sexworkers working, only it is not legal. Just go to kinky. NL and make a choice.[/QUOTE]Obviously DioRetz was referring to the sex workers in the red light districts.

[QUOTE=Meiji;2653147]Seems like a decent selection at that site. To clarify, are the girls listed as 'Prive ontvangst' or 'Escort Inbound' girls that have their own in calls, or are they outcall only? I also see standard prices and more expensive prices for 'Escort'. Is the latter price the cost of FS, or is that more of a 'take a girl out to dinner' price?[/QUOTE]'Prive ontvangst' is incall, and 'Escort' is outcall only. I don't see 'Escort Inbound' listed as possibility, and I wonder what that would be. Incall I guess.

Girls offering both incall and outcall often have a surcharge for outcall. Prices are usually for FS with condom, unless stated otherwise.

Still a lockdown till 17:00 and that makes daytime punting a lot better. The number of beauties in OudeKennissteeg and Stoofsteeg has not been so high in more than 10 years. Only few customers, so if you don't mind daytime punting, go there. Situation in The Hague was just the other way round. Many, many customers and only very few girls.

Anyone knows review site (s) that locals use in Netherlands?

Kinky. NL.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2657506]Anyone knows review site (s) that locals use in Netherlands?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2658268]Kinky. NL.[/QUOTE]I know this one, but I don't see the reviews there? Also maybe for a bit more upscale escorts.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2658532]I know this one, but I don't see the reviews there? Also maybe for a bit more upscale escorts.[/QUOTE]The only one left since Hookers went down, as far as I know anyway, is the ijsberenforum. But the number of reviews there is very small compared to Hookers.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2658532]I know this one, but I don't see the reviews there? Also maybe for a bit more upscale escorts.[/QUOTE]There are review, shown with starts next to the name of the escort.

But only a small group has them thus far. So it gives the appearance there aren't any.

Don't expect an up to date and grand location like hookers dot NL was.

As for upscale, you will have to go to escort agency. There are essentially 3 levels.

The regular escorts agencies, which often have bait and switch. Prices are 100-200.

Then there is a gap which filled by kinky dot NL ads of prices between 200 - 300.

Followed by the upscale which start at 300.

[QUOTE=Oneminuteboy;2659990]As for upscale, you will have to go to escort agency. There are essentially 3 levels.

The regular escorts agencies, which often have bait and switch. Prices are 100-200.

Then there is a gap which filled by kinky dot NL ads of prices between 200 - 300.

Followed by the upscale which start at 300.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I know this. What I meant is there a decent place with up to date escort reviews? For example on *** the latest review for Society Service is from 2018, and most of the girls don't work there anymore.

Are there any decent escort agencies in Amsterdam aside from things like SS?

I've had a very good experience with Upclass International, even better than with SS. However if you are looking for variety, SS has the largest roster by far.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2660424]I've had a very good experience with Upclass International, even better than with SS. However if you are looking for variety, SS has the largest roster by far.[/QUOTE]That does look good. Is there anyway to get party girls in Amsterdam like you can in London?

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2660687]That does look good. Is there anyway to get party girls in Amsterdam like you can in London?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what does this mean exactly, but if you are looking for a girl that can accompany you to non-erotic event, then it's not an issue in any of those agencies. For erotic event some offer a companionship to sex / swinger club, just don't expect her to engage in sex with random people.

Not all of them has reviews, few have.

However, I have used the site a bit, I have moved from London to AMS, so I found this site more reliable than many sites in UK.

There are lots of South American girls, who are usually very friendly, and East European, who by my experience give a BBBJ by default.

These two ethnic background covers most of the talents available, it doesn't mean there no others, but less compared to them.

If you are not fan ou these sites, then I would recommend to visit the clubs, like 118, and so on.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2658532]I know this one, but I don't see the reviews there? Also maybe for a bit more upscale escorts.[/QUOTE]

Are there any other clubs like Park 118?

It's happening, not scheduled but will likely shut down after the over the next few years.

[url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/01/amsterdam-to-move-sex-workers-out-of-city-centre-in-tourism-reset]Amsterdam to move sex workers out of city centre in tourism 'reset'[/url]

[quote]The brothel windows of Amsterdam's red light district will be closed and an "erotic centre" will be set up away from the city centre, councillors have agreed.

A proposal from the city's mayor, Femke Halsema, to shut down a significant number of the windows in the narrow alleys around the docks was backed by a broad group of political parties.

The sex workers in the De Wallen red light district will be invited to move to a purpose-built centre elsewhere in Amsterdam, the location of which remains to be determined. [/quote].

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2663772]It's happening, not scheduled but will likely shut down after the over the next few years.

[url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/01/amsterdam-to-move-sex-workers-out-of-city-centre-in-tourism-reset]Amsterdam to move sex workers out of city centre in tourism 'reset'[/url]

.[/QUOTE]I've seen this same story trotted out a few times over the last 18 months under different titles, mastheads. It's all talk and I'll believe it when I see it.

Is there a specific reason why hotel prices at the end of March are like 50% higher than few months ago? Is there some major event around that time?

[QUOTE=OfficeMatt;2664248]I've seen this same story trotted out a few times over the last 18 months under different titles, mastheads. It's all talk and I'll believe it when I see it.[/QUOTE]The difference now is that it has sufficient political support.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2664412]Is there a specific reason why hotel prices at the end of March are like 50% higher than few months ago? Is there some major event around that time?[/QUOTE]The coming week most restrictions will be lifted. Prices go back to normal, or better pre-Covid. That might be called an event, but that is probably not what you meant.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2664709]The difference now is that it has sufficient political support.[/QUOTE]What is the source for your info? I cannot find anything new. Not on the official site of the city. The only info that I have is that there are plans to look at the situation again in 2022 when most girls have returned. Especially the wording of the mayor tell me that the RLD will disappear but when is not so clear. I cannot find any evidence of a decision by the Councillors.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2664856]The coming week most restrictions will be lifted. Prices go back to normal, or better pre-Covid. That might be called an event, but that is probably not what you meant.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm comparing this to last October when the only restriction was face masks in public transport.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2664709]The difference now is that it has sufficient political support.[/QUOTE]Yet there isn't. And what I was saying is, that this story has been written the same way over and over again. It's filler.

I think I will meet soon girls from Upclass or Courtesan Club but in case of a multiple business trips to Netherlands I have to save some money.

In the "middle" category I found this agency [URL]https://www.pleasure-escort.nl/[/URL] . Do you know if it is a serious one.

The girls are really the ones in the pictures?

Thank you for your feedback or if you have any tips to share I'll take it!

I answer to myself.

I discovered that there are a lot of agencies and not easy to choose one without advice. But I imagine that it is like in Belgium where like in Belgium where 2 or 3 agencies of this type are trusted. Do you advise me to choose one with a licence? Is this a guarantee of a better service?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=MadInParis;2665335]I think I will meet soon girls from Upclass or Courtesan Club but in case of a multiple business trips to Netherlands I have to save some money.

In the "middle" category I found this agency [URL]https://www.pleasure-escort.nl/[/URL] . Do you know if it is a serious one.

The girls are really the ones in the pictures?

Thank you for your feedback or if you have any tips to share I'll take it![/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure it's not that hard to get a license, so any agency without would immediately raise a lot of suspicions. At the end, this is purely pragmatic question. How much do you value your time to risk wasting an evening with no-show or bait-and-switch?

You're right. And to be honest it is better to know that everything is legal as far as it could be. It has consequences to the girls.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2666018]I'm pretty sure it's not that hard to get a license, so any agency without would immediately raise a lot of suspicions. At the end, this is purely pragmatic question. How much do you value your time to risk wasting an evening with no-show or bait-and-switch?[/QUOTE]

Anyone has experience with Mila Milan they can share? She is pornstar with super hot looks, and seems to be available in Amsterdam for outcalls. At 500 eur / h I really hope she is worth it.

Coming to Amsterdam March 8-11 and need some recommendations. I can give solid details about the escort scene and agencies in Athens (I don't do the white lights there - 10 euro & 20 euro to fuck in neighborhood filled with passed out junkies is a bit too skeezy for me) but for 120-150 euro amazing PSE & GFE service from very good girls at the agencies. Been in Greece for several months now and its fucking amazing but business has me going to Amsterdam and might as well play around. Use to go like 2005-2010. I had some memorable times in the RLD. Some hit some miss (like having a girl punch a hole thru paper towel and placing that over my cock, first and last time seen that one), but overall positive. Open to recommendations for RLD and independents and girls working at agencies that can provide the same service I'm getting in Greece (BBBJ and deepthroat is a must, and rimming). Open to stunning trans women as well.

Thinking about the fun I had in RLD all those years ago. There was one specific girl, corner of Tromp & Sint Anne. Had a devil sticker on her window. Dutch girl. She was super popular and absolutely terrific!! Can't remember her name tho. And then there was a RLD legend, I think Swedish. Blonde. Older MILF, with silly massive tits inside the Rose. And a Thai girl directly next to her with some of the best natural tits ever seen on an Asian girl. Fun times!

I would like to give my feedback after my date with Aimée from Upclass.

First thing to say it that Upclass is an agency I can highly recommend. It could be funny to say it for this kind of activity but they are customer service oriented. My first choice of girl was unavailable and they proposed then me the best choice following my desire.

And I even received a voucher to confirm my date.

I met Aimee in my hotel in Rotterdam for a dinner date (4 h). She's a pretty, tall blond like you can see on the website. I don't like to tell all the details and and I keep it for me and her. But we had a funny and hot evening after Aimée took off her jeans and showed me her very nice lingerie.

I plan to come in Amsterdam soon and I will certainly spend some more euros with this agency.

[QUOTE=MadInParis;2666789]You're right. And to be honest it is better to know that everything is legal as far as it could be. It has consequences to the girls.[/QUOTE]

Ah, Polish Anna, one of the finest ladies to ever grace the RLD. I went in November / December and fear that she has either retired or is waiting things out in Poland. Last time I saw her was in late 2019. She has had bigger implants since you last saw her too!

Check the first door on the left when you enter the covered area. Roksi (she spells it Roks with an accent) is a fine Bulgarian babe and is popular as well. I met her in November and basically became a regular with her. Very nice gal and what a bod.

[QUOTE=George300;2671737]Coming to Amsterdam March 8-11 and need some recommendations. I can give solid details about the escort scene and agencies in Athens (I don't do the white lights there - 10 euro & 20 euro to fuck in neighborhood filled with passed out junkies is a bit too skeezy for me) but for 120-150 euro amazing PSE & GFE service from very good girls at the agencies. Been in Greece for several months now and its fucking amazing but business has me going to Amsterdam and might as well play around. Use to go like 2005-2010. I had some memorable times in the RLD. Some hit some miss (like having a girl punch a hole thru paper towel and placing that over my cock, first and last time seen that one), but overall positive. Open to recommendations for RLD and independents and girls working at agencies that can provide the same service I'm getting in Greece (BBBJ and deepthroat is a must, and rimming). Open to stunning trans women as well.

Thinking about the fun I had in RLD all those years ago. There was one specific girl, corner of Tromp & Sint Anne. Had a devil sticker on her window. Dutch girl. She was super popular and absolutely terrific!! Can't remember her name tho. And then there was a RLD legend, I think Swedish. Blonde. Older MILF, with silly massive tits inside the Rose. And a Thai girl directly next to her with some of the best natural tits ever seen on an Asian girl. Fun times![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MadInParis;2671979]I would like to give my feedback after my date with Aime from Upclass.
[/QUOTE]Congrats on a great choice. She is definitely worth it, especially if you prefer booties over boobs BTW, who was your first preference?

Whoa. Yes! Polish Anna! That's her. Damn are you telling me she's still here? I walked down where I remember the best girls were. Dollebeg. , empty. Didn't check out the rose. Didn't see anyone on any of those streets. Nothing on Tromp or saint Anne. Those little blocks dead and closed. Wtf happened! RLD got a lot smaller. But the windows with girls. Damn there is still some stunning babes around. Stunning. Just can't pay that 50-100 euro and get hustled in and out and use a damn condom for a BJ. I'll go back out tomorrow seeking Roks tho and maybe Anna for old time sakes.

[QUOTE=OfficeMatt;2672065]Ah, Polish Anna, one of the finest ladies to ever grace the RLD. I went in November / December and fear that she has either retired or is waiting things out in Poland. Last time I saw her was in late 2019. She has had bigger implants since you last saw her too!

Check the first door on the left when you enter the covered area. Roksi (she spells it Roks with an accent) is a fine Bulgarian babe and is popular as well. I met her in November and basically became a regular with her. Very nice gal and what a bod.[/QUOTE]

To be honest I am more a boobs guy but I am open. Everything is on the feeling you can have. My first choice was Nathaly but she seems popular.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2672071]Congrats on a great choice. She is definitely worth it, especially if you prefer booties over boobs BTW, who was your first preference?[/QUOTE]

Hello,

Is the RLD fully open? Thanks.

Hi everyone,

I'm total beginner in this game and I would like some of your advices and links / where to look if possible. I will be in Adam in the second half of the March, and I'm looking for a incall girls. Thanks!

[QUOTE=George300;2672095]Whoa. Yes! Polish Anna! That's her. Damn are you telling me she's still here? I walked down where I remember the best girls were. Dollebeg. , empty. Didn't check out the rose. Didn't see anyone on any of those streets. Nothing on Tromp or saint Anne. Those little blocks dead and closed. Wtf happened! RLD got a lot smaller. But the windows with girls. Damn there is still some stunning babes around. Stunning. Just can't pay that 50-100 euro and get hustled in and out and use a damn condom for a BJ. I'll go back out tomorrow seeking Roks tho and maybe Anna for old time sakes.[/QUOTE]If you see her, please let us know, but I fear she has returned to Poland as I have not seen a report on her in close to two years.

[QUOTE=Unholy69;2672322]Hello,

Is the RLD fully open? Thanks.[/QUOTE]It looks like most restrictions were lifted on February 25, RLD services included.

[QUOTE=George300;2672095]I walked down where I remember the best girls were. Dollebeg. , empty. Didn't check out the rose. Didn't see anyone on any of those streets. Nothing on Tromp or saint Anne. Those little blocks dead and closed. Wtf happened! RLD got a lot smaller.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this part of the RLD has been closed recently.

Hi all,

I'm total beginner in this game and I'll be living in Adam next few months. Can you give me some links and advices and maybe some girls beginner friendly, thanks!

Hello.

What are the trustworthy websites to find incall ladies in Amsterdam?

Hookers NL or kinkly NL are the only reputable ones with maybe agencies like Society Service. Amsterdam doesn't seem to have big incall escort scene.

Arriving in AMS next week from Canada via USA. Netherlands Government web site and airline web site contradict each other. One said proof of vaccine is only required while the other said a negative antigen test before entry is required. Any advice? Thanks.

Thank you.

I usually go to incall ladies when traveling, I have no idea how things work in Amsterdam, what are the options?

[QUOTE=TheWhatever;2676185]Thank you.

I usually go to incall ladies when traveling, I have no idea how things work in Amsterdam, what are the options?[/QUOTE]Did my homework and found the windows girls as well as private houses, I searched some of these "private" but all the girls are fat or ugly. Where can we find slim young escorts.

20 to 24 years?

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2676038]Hookers NL or kinkly NL are the only reputable ones with maybe agencies like Society Service. Amsterdam doesn't seem to have big incall escort scene.[/QUOTE]True, but Hookers NL does not exist anymore.

[QUOTE=TheWhatever;2676314]Did my homework and found the windows girls as well as private houses, I searched some of these "private" but all the girls are fat or ugly. Where can we find slim young escorts.
20 to 24 years?[/QUOTE]Kinky NL or Sexjobs NL. But it's very hit or miss.

[QUOTE=Romero001;2676094]Arriving in AMS next week from Canada via USA. Netherlands Government web site and airline web site contradict each other. One said proof of vaccine is only required while the other said a negative antigen test before entry is required. Any advice? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The test requirement will be lifted from March 23.

[URL]https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/tackling-new-coronavirus-in-the-netherlands/measures-announced[/URL]

[QUOTE=DwitMan;2673515]Hi all,

I'm total beginner in this game and I'll be living in Adam next few months. Can you give me some links and advices and maybe some girls beginner friendly, thanks![/QUOTE]Your questions are too general. Read this forum. Go back many pages, not just a few.

Prive huis 118. Went early morning so only 1 girl. Wanted 40 extra for kissing. Room was good with mirrors on top and side and that was enough for me though and she rode decently well and no teeth for covered BJ.

Looking for someone with recent experience of Fata Morgana or Fun4 two. Search didn't turned out anything useful. If you willing to share please PM me.

Will be in Ams in May, I like skinny natural tits and ass, A-level is a plus but can live without. Any help or advise will be appreciated.

In Amsterdam for a couple of weeks, today I did a few things of our hobby that I'd like to report on.

RLD, 230 pm.

I walked by the RLD in the early afternoon. Scene is very slow. Most windows not working, and the few that are, low quality. I didn't talk to anyone so can't contribute on price.

Park 118, 5 pm.

Had a so so experience. Lineup was very good, 6 girls and quality is overall pretty good. As to my choice, having been in Latin America for the previous many months, I was craving a slim small ass blonde (just to change things up folks). I chose a Russian girl.

Honestly, she's a good girl but I wasn't having her. So the session wasn't great, but we chatted about quite a bit of stuff. She works in Park 118, and also sometimes in the windows in Belgium RLDs. She said the windows were more money, because she can just pay a 150 tax, and the rest goes to her. But in Park 118, she only gets half of the fee. I thought that was interesting. She also said that it is also harder working in the windows, because she has to wear big heels and stand up all day, while in Park 118 she's hanging out most of the day, smoking, snacking, etc.

Facility is terrific BTW. Price as you know is 120 for an hour, and you can negotiate extra stuff. Even though I didn't have a great time here, I'm definitely coming back. Great establishment.

Bonita Thai Spa, 8 pm.

This apparently used to be "Sweet Swedish Massage" or something like that, but now it's known by this name. I had read here in the forums about it, and being partial to the pleasures of just a good, honest handjob, I went for it.

The walk was for nothing. The place didn't respond to the bell ring a couple of times, and my calls went direct to voicemail. Not sure the place is even still functioning, although from the outside / signs, seems like it still is.

RLD, 9 pm.

Whole different scene from earlier. A lot of windows working, and maaan, those girls were fire. Some stunners. I didn't talk to nobody, and wasn't there for it, just wanted to pass by. So can't report on price either.

I went back to my hotel, and on my way back I stopped by a Dutch restaurant to have me some Dutch apple pie. Get some apple pies while you're here, folks: it's a big Dutch thing apparently. And they make a killer apple pie.

Cheers folks.

Going to be in Amsterdam next week, who do I go to if I want a great rimming?

[QUOTE=MistRum;2686428]Going to be in Amsterdam next week, who do I go to if I want a great rimming?[/QUOTE]Did you get any leads?

[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2683353]In Amsterdam for a couple of weeks, today I did a few things of our hobby that I'd like to report on.

RLD, 230 pm.

I walked by the RLD in the early afternoon. Scene is very slow. Most windows not working, and the few that are, low quality. I didn't talk to anyone so can't contribute on price.

Park 118, 5 pm.

Had a so so experience. Lineup was very good, 6 girls and quality is overall pretty good. As to my choice, having been in Latin America for the previous many months, I was craving a slim small ass blonde (just to change things up folks). I chose a Russian girl.

Honestly, she's a good girl but I wasn't having her. So the session wasn't great, but we chatted about quite a bit of stuff. She works in Park 118, and also sometimes in the windows in Belgium RLDs. She said the windows were more money, because she can just pay a 150 tax, and the rest goes to her. But in Park 118, she only gets half of the fee. I thought that was interesting. She also said that it is also harder working in the windows, because she has to wear big heels and stand up all day, while in Park 118 she's hanging out most of the day, smoking, snacking, etc..[/QUOTE]Do these places have any Native Dutch Girls?

I'm having the same question. Does Park 118 have Dutch girls? Would members here recommend other places to session with Dutch girls?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2689176]Do these places have any Native Dutch Girls?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2689176]Do these places have any Native Dutch Girls?[/QUOTE]Infrequently.

I'm in AMS now, took several trips around RLD. Nothing really to report. As of 7:30 most windows were still closed. Saw one stunner, asked for a BJ, she said 50 euros, then I said no condom and she slammed the door in my face. In Germany FKK I could've simply negotiated this out. Here, I look like an idiot if I'm standing in front of a closed glass door.

So this is definitely not a place where you can negotiate. Just tell them what you want and take the price or walk away. I'll report back around 10 pm.

I don't mind women who never do BBBJ, that's their personal choice, I do mind when there's no negotiation.

Do any one an have updated list and address for PRIVÉHUIS, or recommendations, I will be in AMS on the 13.

Rocco, really looking forward to your report. I'll be in the city in a month and am very interested to hear how it is. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2691475]I'm in AMS now, took several trips around RLD. Nothing really to report. As of 7:30 most windows were still closed. Saw one stunner, asked for a BJ, she said 50 euros, then I said no condom and she slammed the door in my face. In Germany FKK I could've simply negotiated this out. Here, I look like an idiot if I'm standing in front of a closed glass door.

So this is definitely not a place where you can negotiate. Just tell them what you want and take the price or walk away. I'll report back around 10 pm.

I don't mind women who never do BBBJ, that's their personal choice, I do mind when there's no negotiation.[/QUOTE]

Anything without a condom and any kissing is rare in the RLD.

[QUOTE=BellaPacific;2691531]Rocco, really looking forward to your report. I'll be in the city in a month and am very interested to hear how it is. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ok so here's my report:

7 pm, dead and nothing really notable. So I got back to my hotel to rest and charge my phone.

10 pm, lively, super packed, and most windows are full. I made countless trips around the entire RLD to find stunners. I would say there's really only about 4-5 total worth seeing but that's up to your wallet.

1st girl, Bulgaria, 100% scammed me. Told me fuck and blow was 100 euros then proceeded to upcharge for time, taking her clothes off, blowjob, sex, etc. So I just left. Also very rushed and didn't allow me to even pull my entire pants off. Probably about the worst experience one can expect but they hide it because they're very welcoming at first and they literally let you right in their door. Oh well, it happens.

2nd girl, Spaniard, petite with fake bolt bolt ONS but clearly more transparent with her pricing. She also accepted credit card. The service was a little better, great BJ, decent fuck, good conversation. She asked 50 e for a blow and 100 e for fuck. Ultimately a far more better experience. Also to note, some women upcharge you if you want to switch position.

3rd girl, Brazilian, nice curvy ass, tank top, glasses and looked hot. She also took credit card. She wanted 200 euros for everything but her body was awesome and worth it. It was a nice BJ, nice dog style and she was friendly. She was my favorite out of the 3. I would visit her again, that's how nice her ass was.

Event. Attended the casa Rosa sex show for 40 euros. It was nice I guess. The theater was tiny and so were the seats, but the performers were really good.

So what I've learned and takeaways:

It gets jammed packed around 10 pm so be prepared.

Never visit a Bulgarian, they usually are older, don't have the best body, provide horrible service, and are scammers.

If you start getting upcharged, just leave. Better to be scammed by a little than scammed by a lot.

Some of these women are smoking hot, and you just have to overpay if you want action. And the women realize this.

You wallet will take a hit, but your pride will be happy you got to lay with a beautiful woman.

I have Saturday and there's 2 women who I remember being really hot so I might just try to see if I can find them later tonight.

I don't plan to visit AMS again because I can find better monger spots, but at the end of the day, you'll find a few stunners and go home a happier man.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2691649]Ok so here's my report:

7 pm, dead and nothing really notable. So I got back to my hotel to rest and charge my phone.

10 pm, lively, super packed, and most windows are full. I made countless trips around the entire RLD to find stunners. I would say there's really only about 4-5 total worth seeing but that's up to your wallet.

1st girl, Bulgaria, 100% scammed me. Told me fuck and blow was 100 euros then proceeded to upcharge for time, taking her clothes off, blowjob, sex, etc. So I just left. Also very rushed and didn't allow me to even pull my entire pants off. Probably about the worst experience one can expect but they hide it because they're very welcoming at first and they literally let you right in their door. Oh well, it happens.

2nd girl, Spaniard, petite with fake bolt bolt ONS but clearly more transparent with her pricing. She also accepted credit card. The service was a little better, great BJ, decent fuck, good conversation. She asked 50 e for a blow and 100 e for fuck. Ultimately a far more better experience. Also to note, some women upcharge you if you want to switch position..[/QUOTE]All over the world! I keep trying to tell the people LOL! The best BBBJ / CIM I've ever had in my entire life was by a Brasiliera working at Globe in Zurich of all places haha! Bulgarians do have a terrible reputation. I have only been with one, and she was good. Was at FKK Mainhatten in Frankfurt. Young and fresh from the Bulgarian country farm with pale white skin and red hair (not the typical look for a Bulgarian mind you). I remembered her loud crying out for all passers by to hear, and lifting her hips up when I "nutted", as if she was trying to catch all of the seed. Never a Bulgarian before her or since, although I had a few opportunities. Quit while I was ahead in favor of other nationalities, such as the Brazilians!

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2691649]Ok so here's my report:

So what I've learned and takeaways:

It gets jammed packed around 10 pm so be prepared.

Never visit a Bulgarian, they usually are older, don't have the best body, provide horrible service, and are scammers.

If you start getting upcharged, just leave. Better to be scammed by a little than scammed by a lot.

Some of these women are smoking hot, and you just have to overpay if you want action. And the women realize this.

You wallet will take a hit, but your pride will be happy you got to lay with a beautiful woman.

I have Saturday and there's 2 women who I remember being really hot so I might just try to see if I can find them later tonight.

I don't plan to visit AMS again because I can find better monger spots, but at the end of the day, you'll find a few stunners and go home a happier man.[/QUOTE]If these are your take aways then, my friend, the RLD in AMS is really not for you. All your issues could have been avoided with better communication at the door.

Hey all,

Was in Amsterdam for king's night and day. Went to park 118 on Saturday and it was a pretty awful experience. The place was easy enough to find, ring the bell and someone brings you into a room where they show you the women working. I had only 3 options, and I ended up choosing Daria. Apparently she's from Spain but her accent says otherwise. I tried to speak to her in Spanish but she doesn't understand anything. I knew she was from Spain when she didn't know what a siesta is. Anyways, she comes in and starts the immediate upselling. I had already paid for an hour for 120 euros. But for things like kissing, BBBJ, licking, etc she wanted an additional 200. After some discussing back and forth, I decided not to go for it and just get regular service. I paid for the hour so I assumed you get at a minimum 2 pops. But this ***** says it's an additional 50 euro for sex one more time. I've mongered in over 35 countries in multiple cities in each country, and this has only once ever happened (Dominican republic by a puta). Other times women will just say there isn't enough time, although that's sometimes on me because I take too long between recharges but never asked for more money to bang again. I was pretty upset, why did I pay for the hour then? Who lasts the entire hour? Anyways, I ended up paying to reduce the per pop costs, but was pretty upset the second time around. Service was basic and standard, starts off with HJ, CBJ, can FOV but not inside, a couple of positions (she doesn't like being on top and will do it for 1 minute). Her English was awful. Eventually told me she was half Russian but born in Spain to a Spanish mother. When I left, the mamasan asks if everything was good, I say no. She asks why, and I asked if buying 1 hour only means sex once? And she says its up to the girl and you need to discuss that with her. Then why tf am I paying first before discussions can happen? Regardless, avoid at all costs! There are so many hotter women who do so much more for less around Europe and the world. Come here for the novelty and tourist attraction that it is, but Amsterdam is not a mongering destination.

Have 6 hours layover in Amsterdam, would like to find a place or area where I can get 2 rounds with about 1 HR rest in between.

Since it's during the day time, RLD would be quiet I assume, or is it not? In Spain or Germany there are reliable houses / club where you can go and price is listed with certain level of service standard, is there such place in Amsterdam?

I would otherwise probably spend time sightseeing the scenery in downtown and check out some museums if no good options available during the day. Thanks.

Went to park 118 for the first time. The madam is welcoming. But only 1 girl available.

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/Women/nicolle[/URL]

30/€70,45/€100,60/€120.

I chose 45. Should do 30 minutes tho.

Nicolle is from Bulgaria, 1.8 m, thin, with a pretty face, blonde hair, beautiful legs and small natural boobs.

She smoke and asked €50 for kissing so I just went for the basic. Just some touching, BJ and then straight to sex. Not the ideal experience but she's hot enough to do so. She didn't want to talk that much after it so everything ended in 30 minutes and I let her go. Would probably do just 30 minutes next time.

[QUOTE=Jack060;2693518]Went to park 118 for the first time. The madam is welcoming. But only 1 girl available.

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/Women/nicolle[/URL]

30/70,45/100,60/120.

I chose 45. Should do 30 minutes tho.

Nicolle is from Bulgaria, 1.8 m, thin, with a pretty face, blonde hair, beautiful legs and small natural boobs.

She smoke and asked 50 for kissing so I just went for the basic. Just some touching, BJ and then straight to sex. Not the ideal experience but she's hot enough to do so. She didn't want to talk that much after it so everything ended in 30 minutes and I let her go. Would probably do just 30 minutes next time.[/QUOTE]Most Bulgarian women are cold as working girls. They really don't like what they do. Many are well educated but make much more in Amsterdam than they would at home working within their profession. Smoking is very common and many reek of cigarettes.

Does anyone know where to find higher end girls in AMS, for example, the equivalent of a 1 k / HR escort in the US? Cost isn't really a factor for me cause I'm willing to splurge on this trip. Seems like everything I've read about AMS is an upsell.

[QUOTE=Jack060;2693518]Went to park 118 for the first time. The madam is welcoming. But only 1 girl available.

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/Women/nicolle[/URL]

30/70,45/100,60/120.

I chose 45. Should do 30 minutes tho.

Nicolle is from Bulgaria, 1.8 m, thin, with a pretty face, blonde hair, beautiful legs and small natural boobs.

She smoke and asked 50 for kissing so I just went for the basic. Just some touching, BJ and then straight to sex. Not the ideal experience but she's hot enough to do so. She didn't want to talk that much after it so everything ended in 30 minutes and I let her go. Would probably do just 30 minutes next time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review, from your physical description of her just what I want. The kissing and talking dint interest me, I am cool with laying there and recovering and getting a shower, then back to the hotel.

[QUOTE=CharlesCo255;2693670]Does anyone know where to find higher end girls in AMS, for example, the equivalent of a 1 k / HR escort in the US? Cost isn't really a factor for me cause I'm willing to splurge on this trip. Seems like everything I've read about AMS is an upsell.[/QUOTE]Given that you have € to burn allegedly, why don't you just rock up to the Kamer of the hottest lady you can find and slap a couple of grand on the table and tell her to do her best? That'll burn a hole in your pocket in no time.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2693804]Given that you have to burn allegedly, why don't you just rock up to the Kamer of the hottest lady you can find and slap a couple of grand on the table and tell her to do her best? That'll burn a hole in your pocket in no time.[/QUOTE]What's a Kamer and how do I find these hottest ladies? Explain like I'm a complete noob.

[QUOTE=CharlesCo255;2693670]Does anyone know where to find higher end girls in AMS, for example, the equivalent of a 1 k / HR escort in the US? Cost isn't really a factor for me cause I'm willing to splurge on this trip. Seems like everything I've read about AMS is an upsell.[/QUOTE]This is the group with the most favorable reviews on sites geared toward the "higher end".

[URL]https://www.dreamsanddesires.nl/high-class-escortdames/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2694066]This is the group with the most favorable reviews on sites geared toward the "higher end".

[URL]https://www.dreamsanddesires.nl/high-class-escortdames/[/URL][/QUOTE]Send me to the middle class, the starting price is almost half of what I pay for one of my EClass, 3 vistió and that's a car payment LOL. Enjoy brother, I will be glad when I can get back to Barcelona, Mexico or Colombia.

[QUOTE=RedMan0505;2694382]Send me to the middle class, the starting price is almost half of what I pay for one of my EClass, 3 visti and that's a car payment LOL. Enjoy brother, I will be glad when I can get back to Barcelona, Mexico or Colombia.[/QUOTE]I agree, but the guy wasn't getting serious answers to his very specific question, so I jumped in.

But there is food for thought. The government has dictated how the market should work in the Netherlands by establishing incall geared toward very short-time sessions in the red light district. So the relatively few outcall escorts charge a hefty premium. The governments is the three countries you mention step back and let the market determine everything. So you get a better result.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2694394]The government has dictated how the market should work in the Netherlands by establishing incall geared toward very short-time sessions in the red light district. [/QUOTE]The government has nothing to do with the duration of the sessions in the red light district, or anywhere else. That is completely up to the girls (or in some cases their pimps).

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2693567]Most Bulgarian women are cold as working girls. They really don't like what they do. Many are well educated but make much more in Amsterdam than they would at home working within their profession. Smoking is very common and many reek of cigarettes.[/QUOTE]I agree. Bulgarians are awful and they love scamming people with upcharges, bad service, and rushing clients.

They know that no monger wants to complain to the police over being scammed by a prostitute, so once you enter their room, you're screwed. They smoke, many have beer bellies they cover with very tight panties.

And the worse thing is, you sometimes can't really tell they're Bulgarian until you've already agreed to the session.

I'm sure 15-20 years ago, the European monger scene was much better with more variety, but now it's largely Bulgarians, Romanians, and Gypsies.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2694541]The government has nothing to do with the duration of the sessions in the red light district, or anywhere else. That is completely up to the girls (or in some cases their pimps).[/QUOTE]Not directly, but the existence of government-approved incall in large facilities, along with permitting foreigners from poor countries establishes a "culture."

The scene in The Netherlands, Germany, and in Curaçao (before the place there went out of business) is different than countries where large-facility incall doesn't exist.

If the red-light district didn't exist in Amsterdam, and if foreigners could not participate as easily in the commercial sex industry, I think you would find more one-hour GFE sessions from local ladies. Those one-hour GFE sessions would be more expensive than the red-light district prices, but less expensive than they are now.

Just my opinion, and my observations after studying different European markets. A person valuing BBBJ and GFE can get a much better half-hour session in Spain or Portugal even for incall than in the Netherlands, but the scene is spread out all over the major cities, and the governments largely ignore the commercial sex industry, with the exception of Barcelona's never-ending shutdowns of Asian Houses. Portugal shut-down the large Michelle's brothel years ago for immigration issues. And behind the scenes, I suspect that the Madrid police hassles Romanians. There are a few in Vive, but most can be found in the large clubs near the French border. So "largely-ignore" doesn't mean "completely ignore". They keep places from getting too big / too visible, and they limit workers from certain countries. It seems prejudiced as hell sometimes. Spain is full of ladies from South America and Central America, and Portugal has a lot of Brazilians, but both countries have the majority of the ladies being from Spain and Portugal.

It is a common occurrence for new posters to ask about the availability of blonde, busty, blue-eyed Dutch and German ladies. They simply don't exist at large-facility incalls in Germany and The Netherlands, unless they have drug issues, which will knock their looks down in a hurry if it hasn't already. They exist in the high-end escort world, at high prices but often without offering much in terms of true GFE. The proliferation of a large low-end market destroys the "middle-class" market, and doesn't really do that much for the "high-end" market either.

There is a consequence to putting a giant Wal-Mart in a USA City, particularly if it primarily employs immigrants from Mexico and Central America. Those same principles apply to the commercial sex work scene in The Netherlands and Germany. There are simply better places for the guy asking about "high-end" GFE outcall (and incall) escorting to go instead of Amsterdam. Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom are all better. Some of the best United Kingdom GFE outcall is from the Romanians with Diva Escorts, but that is a higher-level Romanian lady than the ones doing low-price incall at large facilities in The Netherlands or Germany.

I was in the RLD around 2 years ago and spotted a window girl around 25, curvy blonde, who said she was Hungarian. I asked for BJ and fuck 15-20 minutes and she said €50 so in I went, the BJ ended up as covered as it slipped my mind to ask beforehand if it was or not.

So reading your report do these window girls try to upsell once your in even after you have agreed at the door? Also your prices seemed high? Maybe it has changed since pre covid?

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2691649]Ok so here's my report:

7 pm, dead and nothing really notable. So I got back to my hotel to rest and charge my phone.

10 pm, lively, super packed, and most windows are full. I made countless trips around the entire RLD to find stunners. I would say there's really only about 4-5 total worth seeing but that's up to your wallet.

1st girl, Bulgaria, 100% scammed me. Told me fuck and blow was 100 euros then proceeded to upcharge for time, taking her clothes off, blowjob, sex, etc. So I just left. Also very rushed and didn't allow me to even pull my entire pants off. Probably about the worst experience one can expect but they hide it because they're very welcoming at first and they literally let you right in their door. Oh well, it happens.

2nd girl, Spaniard, petite with fake bolt bolt ONS but clearly more transparent with her pricing. She also accepted credit card. The service was a little better, great BJ, decent fuck, good conversation. She asked 50 e for a blow and 100 e for fuck. Ultimately a far more better experience. Also to note, some women upcharge you if you want to switch position..[/QUOTE]

RLD, bad experience.

Visited RLD several days back and met a girl from Venezuela in window 6. She quoted 50 for blowjob and sex. Was short on cash, so asked her if I can come back. By the time I arranged the money and could go back in she was already busy, waited for a while but didn't see the curtains opening.

The girl seemed nice so I went again after few days and this time didn't talk about services, just asked the rates and she said 50. I went in and paid as I thought the last agreement from few days back would still hold valid. Paid her 60 and she said she doesn't have change to return. I thought let it be. She asked me to remove my pants, lie down and started to rub my penis. As soon as I touched her she started asking for more money, to the amount of 200 or something for full sex with touching. She said I didn't talk about services with her before paying. Was not in the mood anymore so decided to leave. She didn't even give me enough time to wear clothes properly and opened the curtains while I was still changing, had to really rush.

Really bad experience. Not paying at RLD windows again. As someone else said it's just a gimmick.

Damages: 60.

Body: 9/10.

Attitude: 0/10.

Sarphatipark.

Only three ladies were available when I visited. Was shown two black ladies and an Iranian. The Iranian was super hot. Quoted 70 for half an hour. Wanted to take her for an hour but I was told that she has other appointments.

Asked for DFK and she said she would charge 50 more.

Was really desperate after the bad experience in RLD and went with her. It was totally worth it. I kinda managed to make up for the bad experience in RLD.

Damages: 70 (half an hour) + 50 (for DFK).

Body: 10/10.

Attitude: 10/10.

Hygiene: 9/10.

[QUOTE=SuperAssMan;2696668]RLD, bad experience.

Visited RLD several days back and met a girl from Venezuela in window 6. She quoted 50 for blowjob and sex. Was short on cash, so asked her if I can come back. By the time I arranged the money and could go back in she was already busy, waited for a while but didn't see the curtains opening.

The girl seemed nice so I went again after few days and this time didn't talk about services, just asked the rates and she said 50. I went in and paid as I thought the last agreement from few days back would still hold valid. Paid her 60 and she said she doesn't have change to return. I thought let it be. She asked me to remove my pants, lie down and started to rub my penis. As soon as I touched her she started asking for more money, to the amount of 200 or something for full sex with touching. She said I didn't talk about services with her before paying. Was not in the mood anymore so decided to leave. She didn't even give me enough time to wear clothes properly and opened the curtains while I was still changing, had to really rush..[/QUOTE]What was her name the Persian?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2696726]What was her name the Persian?[/QUOTE]Was Miss F.

When I arrived was greeted by the madam, I was told only one person available she then send in Amanda. Amanda has a nice big ass, I declined and told her I wanted a skinny girl like her the madam told me wait abut 10 minutes and she will have a girl free. S then enter rm skinny like I ask for we engage small talk and she explained no kissing on the lips and no FIV, we proceed to shower as the water started running I advised her of having to pee as I pee in tub, she jumped out of the tub and started looking for cleaning supplies to clean tub and going off on for me peeing in the tub, she clean tub and finished her shower telling me I through her off her A Game.

We talked a little she placed condom on and started with an average BJ, she then swapped condom because lip stick was on it. She put another condom got in doggie position, I enter her tight pussy, from behind my cell phone started going off I'm pounding that pussy she then repeat this is not a marathon and I let her know I was not a two minutes man. I flip over and she started to giving a HJ I told her come and ride this thing she got on top and road til I came. I started to shower as she reminded me not to pee again in the tub, more small talk finished up and left.

Over all I would not repeat, she would not do missionary.

Name: Seline.

Age: 23.

Appearance: Eastern European.

Hair color: Brown with highlights.

Physique: Slim.

Cup size: the.

Silicone: No.

Piercing: No.

Tattoos: No.

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/dames/seline/[/URL]

Visited Park 118 and there were a lot of girls free, but immediately chose Seline as she was one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen. Initially booked for two hours, but decided to stay for three as I simply loved spending time with her. She immediately makes you feel comfortable and at home with her. I've visited her twice and would definitely go again if I have the chance.

The sex was great and she's very fun. Extras are offered at standard prices and it's well worth it! I would definitely recommend going for the extras if you can and making the most out of your visit.

What is the best site for outcall girls?

Eurogirlsescort looks fake for me, are there any other?

[QUOTE=SuperAssMan;2696668]RLD, bad experience.

Visited RLD several days back and met a girl from Venezuela in window 6. She quoted 50 for blowjob and sex. Was short on cash, so asked her if I can come back. By the time I arranged the money and could go back in she was already busy, waited for a while but didn't see the curtains opening.

The girl seemed nice so I went again after few days and this time didn't talk about services, just asked the rates and she said 50. I went in and paid as I thought the last agreement from few days back would still hold valid. Paid her 60 and she said she doesn't have change to return. I thought let it be. She asked me to remove my pants, lie down and started to rub my penis. As soon as I touched her she started asking for more money, to the amount of 200 or something for full sex with touching. She said I didn't talk about services with her before paying. Was not in the mood anymore so decided to leave. She didn't even give me enough time to wear clothes properly and opened the curtains while I was still changing, had to really rush.[/QUOTE]Was it your 1st experience, because I never had this situation with any Latinas who work behind the windows. I 'm surprised'.

[QUOTE=Dolmis;2697930]What is the best site for outcall girls?

Eurogirlsescort looks fake for me, are there any other?[/QUOTE]Kinky. NL is the nr1 site for both in and outcall.

In Amsterdam now.

I need a massage for my back and since I'm in Amsterdam, a happy ending.

Suggestions? And prices?

Hi, I'm going for a work trip to Amsterdam soon and would like to try some outcall services.

As much as possible, I do not want to meet any girls in the lobby, so I would very much like a hotel that allows the girl to go up to my room floor without informing the reception.

This means I need to find a hotel that does not require the room keycard to use the elevator.

Does anyone have any such hotels (4-star) to recommend? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tna01;2701607]In Amsterdam now.

I need a massage for my back and since I'm in Amsterdam, a happy ending.

Suggestions? And prices?[/QUOTE]Any luck with your search? Will be in Amsterdam shortly and would love to find a massage shop or incall. Thanks.

[QUOTE=HDN2015;2698358]Was it your 1st experience, because I never had this situation with any Latinas who work behind the windows. I 'm surprised'.[/QUOTE]Yep, 1st time taking service in a RLD window and I'm not going back there. Was a really harrowing experience.

Was in Amsterdam last week. Primarily for sightseeing but I did have the opportunity to monger for 1 night. My overall impression though of Amsterdam is that the rld district is not really that great of a place for mongering. It's a shame as there are some cute girls in the windows but the severe lack of privacy and anonymity with accessing the girls is silly. The streets are full of tourists whose numbers increase exponentially towards the evening and weekends. I felt sorry for 1 guy in an alley as when he opened the door for a cute girl the whole alley started cheering when he went in. The next day I saw a guy walk out of a window after a session to have a group of people start laughing and talking amongst themselves.

My main point being that unless you're prepared to go in and session with the girls of the rld with a large number of non mongers watching you do it, Amsterdams rld is not really the best place to do it. I personally did not partake however if it was in a more private setting there were a few girls I'the be happy to try.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2706412]Was in Amsterdam last week. Primarily for sightseeing but I did have the opportunity to monger for 1 night. My overall impression though of Amsterdam is that the rld district is not really that great of a place for mongering. It's a shame as there are some cute girls in the windows but the severe lack of privacy and anonymity with accessing the girls is silly. The streets are full of tourists whose numbers increase exponentially towards the evening and weekends. I felt sorry for 1 guy in an alley as when he opened the door for a cute girl the whole alley started cheering when he went in. The next day I saw a guy walk out of a window after a session to have a group of people start laughing and talking amongst themselves.

My main point being that unless you're prepared to go in and session with the girls of the rld with a large number of non mongers watching you do it, Amsterdams rld is not really the best place to do it. I personally did not partake however if it was in a more private setting there were a few girls I'the be happy to try.[/QUOTE]Wow. Sounds like the rld has changed since I was last there. What is the best alternative. Priv house? Club / FKK? Massage? Website directory?

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2706412]Was in Amsterdam last week. Primarily for sightseeing but I did have the opportunity to monger for 1 night. My overall impression though of Amsterdam is that the rld district is not really that great of a place for mongering. It's a shame as there are some cute girls in the windows but the severe lack of privacy and anonymity with accessing the girls is silly. The streets are full of tourists whose numbers increase exponentially towards the evening and weekends. I felt sorry for 1 guy in an alley as when he opened the door for a cute girl the whole alley started cheering when he went in. The next day I saw a guy walk out of a window after a session to have a group of people start laughing and talking amongst themselves.

My main point being that unless you're prepared to go in and session with the girls of the rld with a large number of non mongers watching you do it, Amsterdams rld is not really the best place to do it. I personally did not partake however if it was in a more private setting there were a few girls I'the be happy to try.[/QUOTE]De Pijp Smaller but no crowd.

[QUOTE=BellaPacific;2706569]Wow. Sounds like the rld has changed since I was last there. What is the best alternative. Priv house? Club / FKK? Massage? Website directory?[/QUOTE]I think that's my point. It seems limited. There is kinky NL website and park 117 (that may be the incorrect name. Just look a few posts down and you'll find the name of the incall). At first I felt absolutely no way should the rld be moved but It seems as though Amsterdam would benefit from moving the rld to a different location. If it wants to keep the window option it should at least be a quieter locale but I honestly don't know why it doesn't move to something like Frankfurt with the laufhause or having something similar to a sauna club. It would provide a level of anonymity at least to clients wanting to partake in the girls in a centralized location away from tourists where you are essentially among either other mongers or visitors that want to gawk, but if it were slightly further out I think you'd lose many of the gawkers who don't really become paying customers of the girls and keep it to the mongers that actually want to session with the girls.

The RLD has always been open with drunks and crowded. It's never been private.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2706765]I think that's my point. It seems limited. There is kinky NL website and park 117 [/QUOTE]The RLD has been limited yes, with lots of rooms being shut down, but Kinky and Park118 are not the only options. There are many 'brothels' like Park118, but they are hardly ever mentioned here (not that it matters, because most of them are crap). And there are escort services of course, and similar sites as Kinky, like Sexjobs for example.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2706765] At first I felt absolutely no way should the rld be moved but It seems as though Amsterdam would benefit from moving the rld to a different location. If it wants to keep the window option it should at least be a quieter locale but I honestly don't know why it doesn't move to something like Frankfurt with the laufhause or having something similar to a sauna club. It would provide a level of anonymity at least to clients wanting to partake in the girls in a centralized location away from tourists where you are essentially among either other mongers or visitors that want to gawk, but if it were slightly further out I think you'd lose many of the gawkers who don't really become paying customers of the girls and keep it to the mongers that actually want to session with the girls.[/QUOTE]This is exactly the reason why the city council wants to move the RLD to a location outside the city center. It has become too much of a tourist attraction, and sex work should not be regarded as that. It should be regarded as a normal job, or as much as possible anyway. (Amsterdam has, and has always had as far as I can remember, a left wing city council).

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2706948] {Snip} There are many 'brothels' like Park118, {Snip}[/QUOTE]Really? Can you post a link or two? Park118 is the only one I've heard of.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2706967]Really? Can you post a link or two? Park118 is the only one I've heard of.[/QUOTE]There are some others though there is little or no discussion here on the boards regarding them. Golden key at overtoom 294 and a Thai massage place in de Wallen that's called Love 21 or something. The little I could find on love 21 massage was that it was overpriced and didn't offer much apart from a HJ but I have found nothing recent. I think, for me, it was the non anonymity and having to negotiate what you want while opening the doors to the girls with families, kids, tourists, locals, elderly, etc walking past you that was a problem for me. There was another rld area I visited between de wallen and the Singel which was quieter but of the 8 windows open all were older bigger ladies, 1 large dominatrix and a TS who flashed their dick at me. That area was perhaps better in that it was quieter and less people walking around but it didn't have any good looking girls.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2706967]Really? Can you post a link or two? Park118 is the only one I've heard of.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.kinky.nl/seksbedrijven/privehuis[/URL]
This list is not limited to Amsterdam, but most are in the western part of the country, so not far away.

Or google: privéhuis amsterdam.
Or: sex club amsterdam.

[QUOTE=RedMan0505;2706735]De Pijp Smaller but no crowd.[/QUOTE]De Pijp is the name of the neighbourhood. The RLD is located at the Ruysdaelkade, between the Albert Cuypstraat and the Govert Flinckstraat.
Take the subway in the direction of Amsterdam Zuid railway station, and hop off at station De Pijp. From there it's a short walk.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2706412]Was in Amsterdam last week. Primarily for sightseeing but I did have the opportunity to monger for 1 night. My overall impression though of Amsterdam is that the rld district is not really that great of a place for mongering. It's a shame as there are some cute girls in the windows but the severe lack of privacy and anonymity with accessing the girls is silly. The streets are full of tourists whose numbers increase exponentially towards the evening and weekends. I felt sorry for 1 guy in an alley as when he opened the door for a cute girl the whole alley started cheering when he went in. The next day I saw a guy walk out of a window after a session to have a group of people start laughing and talking amongst themselves.

My main point being that unless you're prepared to go in and session with the girls of the rld with a large number of non mongers watching you do it, Amsterdams rld is not really the best place to do it. I personally did not partake however if it was in a more private setting there were a few girls I'the be happy to try.[/QUOTE]The 1st time I went there I was impressed by the moving mass through the streets in RLD, thus I waited for my 1st session until 4. 00 am.

Now I don't care about people. I know why I' walking around and when I find an interesting model, I simply knock at the window.

A model told me she looks down on men who stare at her window because they are coward.

I'm visiting Amsterdam in a couple of weeks. Anyone know of any Asian houses or places that have a lot of Asian women? I may also be spending some time in Germany and Brussels if you have any similar suggestions in those cities. I'll be sure to report back during and after my visit.

[QUOTE=Mexicoron1988;2708338]I'm visiting Amsterdam in a couple of weeks. Anyone know of any Asian houses or places that have a lot of Asian women? I may also be spending some time in Germany and Brussels if you have any similar suggestions in those cities. I'll be sure to report back during and after my visit.[/QUOTE]Hey at mexicron1988.

Also heading to Amsterdam soon. Here are the places I've found mentioned in threads. Unfortunately, there is not much on Asians.

Would anyone care to build on this list or comment on the various links? Thanks!

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/[/URL]

[URL]https://clubgoldenkey.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://club-lv.com/nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.asmara.nl/en/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.secretescorts.nl/[/URL]

[URL]www.pleasure-escort.nl[/URL]

[URL]www.leidenescort.nl[/URL]

[URL]www.societyservice.com[/URL]

[URL]https://thecourtesanclub.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://elitedolls.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://dollhouse.nl/[/URL]

[URL]www.redlights.nl[/URL]

[URL]https://www.kinky.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.sexguide.nl/[/URL]

Has anyone ever actually been to Golden Key? I've heard mixed reports -.

Hi all,

My first time to Amsterdam and I am wondering what are "guest friendly" hotels where I can book an escort to come over. Also if anyone can share recommendations of good agencies. Will be well appreciated. I come from Malaysia and happy to return the favor of anyone if traveling there. Thank you.

[QUOTE=BellaPacific;2709592]Hey at mexicron1988.

Also heading to Amsterdam soon. Here are the places I've found mentioned in threads. Unfortunately, there is not much on Asians.

Would anyone care to build on this list or comment on the various links? Thanks!

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/[/URL]

[URL]https://clubgoldenkey.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://club-lv.com/nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.asmara.nl/en/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.secretescorts.nl/[/URL]

[URL]www.pleasure-escort.nl[/URL]

[URL]www.leidenescort.nl[/URL]

[URL]www.societyservice.com[/URL]

[URL]https://thecourtesanclub.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://elitedolls.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://dollhouse.nl/[/URL]

[URL]www.redlights.nl[/URL]

[URL]https://www.kinky.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.sexguide.nl/[/URL][/QUOTE]Great list. I will be in AMS soon and looking forward to the European hobby scene. I am originally from Germany and I remember going to the FKKs in Munich and the Laufhaus in in Salzburg when I was in the Heer, great times. I live in Texas now but it has been far too long for some Euro action. That being said, I am skeptical on Dollhouse. The girls look TGTBT, and generally in the hobby that if it is TGTBT, it is. Europe in my experience has always had a good reputation for getting what is in the photos, but honestly the hobby seems to be on a downward trend globally and I wouldn't be surprised to get a babushka if I requested one of those well-endowed blonde beauties from Dollhouse. Can anyone here in the AMS scene vouch for it?

Depending on this trip it'll be whether Euro hobbying is a no-go for me nowadays. Latin America has been good to me, and I have sights set on Asia but I wanted to do a Euro trip for old times sake plus visit dear lifelong friends in Amsterdam.

Thoughts on Amsterdam.

The Red Light District is still around but after visiting last week but after the pandemic goddamn it is much smaller than it used to be which is super freaking sad. Still, great talent is available. There still some other smaller parts that still exist but there's at least a good twenty minutes away from the city center. I do know there are some other smaller PriveHauses you might be able to find outside of Park 118 but I can't comment on the other options.

I tried on escort agency (many are the same booker with different websites). BS scam artists. The pics have nothing at all to do with the girl who shows up. I sent the girl away. Scammers. Tried the RLD. It's much smaller than past years and much less impressive in terms of talent. It was very late thanks to the scammer from the agency. Avoid the girl on Oudezijds Voorburgwal pretending to be Swiss / Russian. She will bait you with a promise of services and demands more cash to actually execute. So far this is all a complete disaster compared to even the worst FKK.

Overall, Amsterdam is a hard pass.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2719378]Thoughts on Amsterdam.

The Red Light District is still around but after visiting last week but after the pandemic goddamn it is much smaller than it used to be which is super freaking sad. Still, great talent is available. There still some other smaller parts that still exist but there's at least a good twenty minutes away from the city center. I do know there are some other smaller PriveHauses you might be able to find outside of Park 118 but I can't comment on the other options.[/QUOTE]Hi guys, I've been to Amsterdam RLD a few times before the pandemic and had both good and bad experiences. Now I was thinking of making another visit but have understood from what you have written here that it has become both more expensive and not as good as before.

I am therefore a bit curious to try RLD in Alkmaar or Utrecht. Is there any difference between these two when it comes to, for example, the age of the girls, nationality, prices and service?

Did I understand correctly that you are not fooled by the girls in Alkmaar and Utrecht in the same way as in Amsterdam?

Gents.

I am planning a layover to amsterdam soon. Can someone recommend me a place where I can get a good fuck maybe 60 minutes? I don't want to get a room. Much obliged.

[QUOTE=MartinB999;2725965]am therefore a bit curious to try RLD in Alkmaar or Utrecht[/QUOTE]Years ago, Utrecht had a fabulous RLD in the houseboats, which was closed down.

Alkmaar, to me, was like AAA baseball. You started there, and graduated to Amsterdam.

It was polluted at night with little Moroccan wannabe thugs.

If you had a week in Holland, then check it out.

If you don't have a couple days, don't waste your time.

Best Regards.

Smuler.

[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2729905]Gents.

I am planning a layover to amsterdam soon. Can someone recommend me a place where I can get a good fuck maybe 60 minutes? I don't want to get a room. Much obliged.[/QUOTE]Looking for options near ams schipol.

[QUOTE=Mexicoron1988;2708338]I'm visiting Amsterdam in a couple of weeks. Anyone know of any Asian houses or places that have a lot of Asian women? I may also be spending some time in Germany and Brussels if you have any similar suggestions in those cities. [b]I'll be sure to report back during and after my visit.[/b][/QUOTE]Eagerly awaiting that report, thanks.

Was in the Netherlands last month to visit friends in Utrecht I was in the Heer with. I spent a day in Amsterdam and I was already expecting disappointment. My first item of business was heading to Park 118. It was a Sunday and incredibly busy. The madam was pleasant but informed me to return in a half an hour because no girls were available. I already knew I was not going to get to pick my girl at this point but figured what the hell. Went over to a cafe near Park 118 and had a pleasant lunch and returned about 45 min later. The madam put me in the proposal room and told me she would have a girl ready in 10 min or so. After some time in came Sofia. Sofia is one of their BDSM matrixes, but she came in in a skimpy dress and heels. She is probably late 30's but looks very good, a small frame, luscious ample breasts, a very attractive face and very striking eyes. The best part about her is that she was very personable; we got along great. We agreed on 45 minutes plus extras of natural oral (reciprocal) and DFK for 250 euros.

She took me down to the BDSM room, where I showered down and then we got to business. It started with roughly 10 minutes of just kissing and being handsy. Some would think that's too long, I love good foreplay. I then went down on her, and after 5 minutes we engaged in 69. After another 10 minutes of that we went into CG, RCG, and then missionary. The sex was fantastic; she is a passionate lover and her IOP would make one believe you are truly special. Conversation with her was fun, she is a very interesting person as well. I had some Mexican pesos in my wallet that she saw when doing the transaction, and she asked if she could have some smaller bills of it for her currency collection. Was happy to give a 200 peso bill since that's about 12 Euro. I came in expecting something mechanical, and left very satisified. If I am ever in Amsterdam again anytime soon, I will be visiting Park 118, albeit probably on a weekday.

I have been a bit reluctant to post this as it says on their website Sofia does not do FS sex, but I think that it was just too busy that day. I would not expect to go there and pick her for FS sex.

The bad experience now. I contacted the services of the Dollhouse agency ([URL]www.dollhouse.nl[/URL]). I requested Taryn to come to my hotel room. I again had very low expectations. This time I was right to do so, the girl who arrived was nothing like the pictures. Not outright ugly, but very average. I could see where it could be the same girl as the pictures, but definitely not wearing any makeup. Regardless, I invited her in and she could not be any louder of a person. Talking very loud. I don't really care if other people saw me escorting a girl in or saw me walking into Park 118 since I'm in a foreign country, but I knew from earlier that the rooms on the same floor as me had families and children. Transaction was painful, everything was an upsell so I ended up with a very mechanical CBJ and fuck for 200 euro. The price of what I got is supposed to be 160 euro, but I was too unbothered to get smaller bills (money is not a concern to me fortunately) and in agency girl fashion she did not have change for big bills. It would be 50 euro for DFK with her, which she wouldn't do for the 200 euro, and I only had another 50 euro bill and I most certainly was not giving her it for what would be lame DFK.

We started with CBJ. I will say she looks very good with her clothes off. Nice large breasts and a fat ass. After lame 5 minute CBJ, we started with her CG, which was lame, doggy which was actually really good (like I said, great ass on her, she's Romanian and they've always had nice asses in my experience), and then lame missionary where I ended up just going as vigorous as I could to finish and then get her out. She showered, talked my ear off while dressing, then left.

I didn't monger the rest of the time as my friends and I had an itinerary pretty laid out which was mostly tourist sights around Netherlands (and Aachen) along with tearing down the dive bars every night. I will say friends in Utrecht are fellow mongers, we used to all hit the Laufhauses in Salzburg every so often but there was a cheap place in Bad Reichenhall where we were garrisoned called Club Angelina we spent so much time in. That was our spot. Anyways that was my first taste of Amsterdam, and my first taste of the hobby in Europe in about 8 years. It is just not the same it used to be. Before COVID everything used to be such a sure thing. I think if my itinerary is focused solely on hobbying in Europe I'd have better things to report on, but just not the case here. I think I'll stick with Mexico for now.

[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2731339]Looking for options near ams schipol.[/QUOTE]Trains run on tight schedules. If you check luggage you could easily hop a train to anywhere in AMS, uber from the train station to whichever location, and be back through security all in roughly 3 hours. Depends on day of the week too though I'd say.

[QUOTE=MikeHoncho;2733005]Trains run on tight schedules. If you check luggage you could easily hop a train to anywhere in AMS, uber from the train station to whichever location, and be back through security all in roughly 3 hours. Depends on day of the week too though I'd say.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/[/URL]

I saw your report on park 118. My flight lands at 9 am and the connection is at 4 pm is house 118 ok to visit around noon?

[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2733063][URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/[/URL]

I saw your report on park 118. My flight lands at 9 am and the connection is at 4 pm is house 118 ok to visit around noon?[/QUOTE]I think you'll be fine. You could try calling them and seeing if they can set you up with an appointment. I think you will be in time for your flight if you spend an hour with a girl. Keep in mind you'll likely have to pay extra for MSOG.

I found customs at Schipol to be easy to navigate with my Schengen passport, granted you'll be going through customs before you leave the airport and I would not expect it to take more than an hour. I cannot say anything about going back through airport security as I departed Europe last month out of Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=MikeHoncho;2733416]I think you'll be fine. You could try calling them and seeing if they can set you up with an appointment. I think you will be in time for your flight if you spend an hour with a girl. Keep in mind you'll likely have to pay extra for MSOG.

I found customs at Schipol to be easy to navigate with my Schengen passport, granted you'll be going through customs before you leave the airport and I would not expect it to take more than an hour. I cannot say anything about going back through airport security as I departed Europe last month out of Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, much obliged. Will respond back with an FR.

[QUOTE=MikeHoncho;2733416]
I found customs at Schipol to be easy to navigate with my Schengen passport, granted you'll be going through customs before you leave the airport and I would not expect it to take more than an hour. I cannot say anything about going back through airport security as I departed Europe last month out of Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Schiphol Airport has problems finding security personnel, just like many other airports after the Corona measures have been relaxed, so the lines for the security check can be long.
I think it's best to be back at the airport around 2 PM, or maybe 2:30 at the latest, if your flight leaves at 4 PM. Assuming you don't have to check in anymore.

As a resident of the Netherlands I can say there is not much fun to have if you're looking for sexual entertainment. First of all the government has been clamping down on these things for a couple of years now. Many erotic MP's and private houses have been shut down. There are some Asian MP's in the bigger cities but many of these just provide plain massage and in case you get extra service it's not more than a HJ. Besides this 99% of these MP's in 2022 employ middle aged women so you can forget about finding young sweet things. Last but not least, the RLD in the capital is more of an area to get drugs and alcohol. Many window prosts complain about being mocked by passersby. Probably this area will be history in a couple of years.

[QUOTE=Satrai2000;2733828]As a resident of the Netherlands I can say there is not much fun to have if you're looking for sexual entertainment. First of all the government has been clamping down on these things for a couple of years now. Many erotic MP's and private houses have been shut down. There are some Asian MP's in the bigger cities but many of these just provide plain massage and in case you get extra service it's not more than a HJ. Besides this 99% of these MP's in 2022 employ middle aged women so you can forget about finding young sweet things. Last but not least, the RLD in the capital is more of an area to get drugs and alcohol. Many window prosts complain about being mocked by passersby. Probably this area will be history in a couple of years.[/QUOTE]Where can I find the original Dutch girls Blue Eyes White Blonde hair? Do they work in Brothel houses, escort, Windows?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2734407]Where can I find the original Dutch girls Blue Eyes White Blonde hair? Do they work in Brothel houses, escort, Windows?[/QUOTE]Dutch girls? Very difficult to find now. There is a site [URL]www.girlsreview.nl[/URL] you can try. It's in Dutch BTW.

[QUOTE=Satrai2000;2734619]Dutch girls? Very difficult to find now. There is a site [URL]www.girlsreview.nl[/URL] you can try. It's in Dutch BTW.[/QUOTE]Damn I guess I got to Hook up with a civie Non pro Dutch Girl.

Will be in AMS for first ever visit Act 26 to 29 - suggestions for 4* or better hotel in RLD? I have Sofitel booked but if the resident experts could offer advice on better alternatives that would be greatly appreciated?

Also are there any bars that are 'freelancer central' that I have missed in reading of this thread? TIA.

[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2735175]Will be in AMS for first ever visit Act 26 to 29 - suggestions for 4* or better hotel in RLD? [/QUOTE]What is your budget?

[QUOTE=Stykler;2735190]What is your budget?[/QUOTE]No constraints on budget. Just locality in close proximity to RLD and or hookers bars most important. I have booked here - [URL]https://www.sofitel-legend-thegrand.com/[/URL] but if there are better suggestions I would love to hear of them

[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2735419]No constraints on budget. Just locality in close proximity to RLD and or hookers bars most important. I have booked here - [URL]https://www.sofitel-legend-thegrand.com/[/URL] but if there are better suggestions I would love to hear of them[/QUOTE]Another option would be The Barbizon. Enjoy.

Hi everyone,

I was thinking about going to Amsterdam before I go into Ukraine but I saw some videos on Youtube. It doesn't seem like my style. Maybe I'm shy? I see those girls standing the big glass windows and you go in. I just don't like this kind of settings. I like Tijuana big strip club settings. You go in, there are shows and 60 girls walking around for you to choose from. This is very exciting along with all the music, dances and drinks. Or just go fully online like California. It is not legal here so everything is online. Does Amsterdam or Germany have any big strip club settings? And what are the price range in Amsterdam and Germany? Here in Cali, range from $200/ HR to $600/ HR. There are some asking $800 to $1200 but I don't think its that much better. I guess most of them either come from Europe or South America. Local girls actually sometimes may charge less. If I can get those girls from Europe or South America in Cali, why do I even have to go there anymore right? The only exciting place I want to go to is those big strip clubs in Tijuana. I'm sure there are better clubs in Mexico too but Tijuana is the closest.

If Europe charge similar price I probably would not go there. I go to Ukraine because the price is low enough and can date normal girls too but I kind of know that 50% of Ukraine girls are gone to Europe now right? What do you guys suggest for affordable exciting clubs with lower price like Tijuana?

[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2733494]Thanks man, much obliged. Will respond back with an FR.[/QUOTE]Thanks to bros who provided the tip. Arrived there first in the morning, only charlotte available, 25 5 ft11, Dutch blonde. No complaints. Did her for 1 hour, 2 nuts and DFK for 200 Euro. Great experience. Thanks to bros who recommended. Will repeat.

[QUOTE=BobSmith1;2737411]
Does Amsterdam or Germany have any big strip club settings? [/QUOTE]Amsterdam, or the Netherlands in general, doesn't have that many (strip) clubs, but I think the FKK clubs in Germany come the closest to what you're looking for.
There are plenty of reports in the Germany forum.

Hey Fellas!

I have a trip to Amsterdam coming up for a few days -- its a FR through Tues stay. I was thinking of visiting PriveHaus 118 since it seems to be the only consistent private venue around. Does anyone with experience there know what days and what times of day are best? Or when to avoid?

Thanks in advance!

On a recent trip to Europe I had a day in Amsterdam. I'the read that the RLD was not as good as in past, and was ready. Certainly there were FAR fewer ladies in windows, 90% of them within 1 block of the Old Church. Almost none outside of 3 blocks distant. On a small side alley saw a cute blonde, big smile when she caught me staring at her. 2nd pass she waved at me, 3rd pass I went up to her window and she asked me to step in. Standard 50 euro for 20 minutes. She said for 100 I could have oral and FS, naked, and light kissing. Sold. She was 5'6" ish, be cup, blonde, really pretty, above and beyond others I had seen so far. True to her word all clothes came off, skin to skin, nice but short BJ, then long slow mish leading to my finish. Perfect for what I wanted.

Later in the evening went by the streets on the far side of the Old Chirch (away from Central Station) where most of the black girls work. Found one to my liking, she was very flirtatious. Turned out to be fun but a total money pit, kept trying to upsell me for more time, etc. I stopped at 100 for 30 minutes, she was too active for me, had a hard time busting. Still fun, just nothing like the lovely blonde earlier.

[QUOTE=Manny51;2741003]Hey Fellas!

I have a trip to Amsterdam coming up for a few days -- its a FR through Tues stay. I was thinking of visiting PriveHaus 118 since it seems to be the only consistent private venue around. Does anyone with experience there know what days and what times of day are best? Or when to avoid?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]It's best to make an appointment if you can, or otherwise it's hit and miss.

[QUOTE=BobSmith1;2737411]Hi everyone,

I was thinking about going to Amsterdam before I go into Ukraine but I saw some videos on Youtube. It doesn't seem like my style. Maybe I'm shy? I see those girls standing the big glass windows and you go in. I just don't like this kind of settings. I like Tijuana big strip club settings. You go in, there are shows and 60 girls walking around for you to choose from. This is very exciting along with all the music, dances and drinks. Or just go fully online like California. It is not legal here so everything is online. Does Amsterdam or Germany have any big strip club settings? And what are the price range in Amsterdam and Germany? Here in Cali, range from $200/ HR to $600/ HR. There are some asking $800 to $1200 but I don't think its that much better. I guess most of them either come from Europe or South America. Local girls actually sometimes may charge less. If I can get those girls from Europe or South America in Cali, why do I even have to go there anymore right? The only exciting place I want to go to is those big strip clubs in Tijuana. I'm sure there are better clubs in Mexico too but Tijuana is the closest.

If Europe charge similar price I probably would not go there. I go to Ukraine because the price is low enough and can date normal girls too but I kind of know that 50% of Ukraine girls are gone to Europe now right? What do you guys suggest for affordable exciting clubs with lower price like Tijuana?[/QUOTE]If you are into Hispanic do Barcelona and the brothels, if you are seeking Europeans Berlin FKK clubs. Wherever you go anything over 300 euros is driving the cost of pussy up. Most places I been to charge about 160 euro an hour 100 euros for 45 min and 80 euros for 30 minutes, extras run 50-100 euros more. The pussy is a lot cheaper and safer enjoy your punting.

Judging from recent posts it seems like Amsterdam seems to not be too worth it anymore. Why are all these EU karen led beauracrats all trying to clamp down on prostitution now? I've always wanted to go to the RLD but it seems like its gutted now. Should I just skip the Netherlands and go to Germany?

Delighted to hear you had a good time. Charlotte's most recent reviews on other boards were generally pretty bad. If I'd have known you were thinking of her, I would have said stay well clear!

[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2738214]Thanks to bros who provided the tip. Arrived there first in the morning, only charlotte available, 25 5 ft11, Dutch blonde. No complaints. Did her for 1 hour, 2 nuts and DFK for 200 Euro. Great experience. Thanks to bros who recommended. Will repeat.[/QUOTE]

May be too late for you know, but for others benefit I would say 4 pm -7 pm is generally best from my experience in order to have the largest selection to choose from. Some don't arrive before 4 pm and after 7 pm tends to be busiest with customers as it after working hours for most clients who live in Amsterdam.

However, in my most recent trip a couple of months ago, I went at 4:30 pm on two consecutive weekdays and there was not a single girl available to see! (So 4 pm -7 pm is no guarantee).

[QUOTE=Manny51;2741003]Hey Fellas!

I have a trip to Amsterdam coming up for a few days -- its a FR through Tues stay. I was thinking of visiting PriveHaus 118 since it seems to be the only consistent private venue around. Does anyone with experience there know what days and what times of day are best? Or when to avoid?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2745941]Delighted to hear you had a good time. Charlotte's most recent reviews on other boards were generally pretty bad. If I'd have known you were thinking of her, I would have said stay well clear![/QUOTE]I had a good time.

Tried this agency I found through Google. Seemed to specialize in somewhat 'different' experiences. It's not cheap by any means (800/2 hrs) but my expectations were certainly met, and they sent the girl in the photos, she did everything I asked. Half the agencies are probably engaged in bait or switch, extensive photoshop or other BS, so it's nice to find one that's genuine.

The booking process was very easily arranged in Whatsapp.

Sarah arrived on time at the hotel, she was very young, pretty and willing, as advertised. Brought most of the equipment I requested. Handcuffs, blindfold, outfit.

Very willing to engage in the games and roleplay requested. When I finally got around to touching her she was already wet from all the fantasy play.

Anyway it was a different and fun experience, would repeat when back in town.

If you're willing to travel around town, the girls on kinky. NL look pretty good. A lot of them with glowing reviews as well.

[QUOTE=Maximillian757;2747365]Tried this agency I found through Google. Seemed to specialize in somewhat 'different' experiences. It's not cheap by any means (800/2 hrs) but my expectations were certainly met, and they sent the girl in the photos, she did everything I asked. Half the agencies are probably engaged in bait or switch, extensive photoshop or other BS, so it's nice to find one that's genuine.

The booking process was very easily arranged in Whatsapp.

Sarah arrived on time at the hotel, she was very young, pretty and willing, as advertised. Brought most of the equipment I requested. Handcuffs, blindfold, outfit.

Very willing to engage in the games and roleplay requested. When I finally got around to touching her she was already wet from all the fantasy play.

Anyway it was a different and fun experience, would repeat when back in town.

If you're willing to travel around town, the girls on kinky. NL look pretty good. A lot of them with glowing reviews as well.[/QUOTE]Thanks, as I will try them. Has anyone tried this agency or can suggestion that is good? I keep on reading that most of them do bait and switch, so I want to be careful.

Reading one of the post, it seem that there is a good agency called upclass. Is it the site upclassinternational. COM? Any other suggestion of good agencies would be most welcome.

[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;2749448]Reading one of the post, it seem that there is a good agency called upclass. Is it the site upclassinternational. COM? Any other suggestion of good agencies would be most welcome.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's the site. Other options would be Khloe Consltancy or Secretagents. Don't go to Society Service, they suck.

I have asked this question before but no response so I will try again. Does any member have any knowledge of bars frequented by FREELANCE girls?

I would assume if there were they would be in and around RLD area?

[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2753790]I have asked this question before but no response so I will try again. Does any member have any knowledge of bars frequented by FREELANCE girls?

I would assume if there were they would be in and around RLD area?[/QUOTE]Not that I know of and I frequently visit the area. It only happened to me once that a nice girl in the street asked me whether I wanted a great night. And it was a great night. But, that's it.

[QUOTE=BoobiesLover;2753096]Yep, that's the site. Other options would be Khloe Consltancy or Secretagents. Don't go to Society Service, they suck.[/QUOTE]Many thanks. I will give them a go.

[QUOTE=BoobiesLover;2753096]Don't go to Society Service, they suck.[/QUOTE]Fully agree on SS, they used to be good, but now it's just 99% marketing, including outright bullshit in profiles. And Marike has very unpleast passive-agressive communication style.

[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2753790]I have asked this question before but no response so I will try again. Does any member have any knowledge of bars frequented by FREELANCE girls?
I would assume if there were they would be in and around RLD area?[/QUOTE]No, they don't exist and they have never existed, as far as I know.
Freelancers advertise on sites like Kinky and Sexjobs.

[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2753790]I have asked this question before but no response so I will try again. Does any member have any knowledge of bars frequented by FREELANCE girls?

I would assume if there were they would be in and around RLD area?[/QUOTE]Not sure if Park 118 or any other adult entertainment club will satisfy what you are looking for.

How is your experiences with girls with this website?

Are they true to the ads?

[QUOTE=SargeBob22;2756081]How is your experiences with girls with this website?

Are they true to the ads?[/QUOTE]Yes this is a reliable page. But I would always strongly recommend to check the review of the girls on girlsreview. NL.

You can do this by searching with the advertisement ID# from kinky.

[QUOTE=SargeBob22;2756081]How is your experiences with girls with this website?

Are they true to the ads?[/QUOTE]Yes this is a reliable website.

I would however strongly recommend to check the reviews of the lady on girlsreview. NL.

By using the advertisement ID from kinky.

Hello All,

I will have a layover at Amsterdam next Saturday morning at 9 am for 5 hours.

So if you have any suggestions for this situation, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=DorianPaul007;2756577]Hello All,

I will have a layover at Amsterdam next Saturday morning at 9 am for 5 hours.

So if you have any suggestions for this situation, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers![/QUOTE]There are nice relaxing massage chairs at the airport. The coffee is quiet good also.

[QUOTE=DorianPaul007;2756577]Hello All,
I will have a layover at Amsterdam next Saturday morning at 9 am for 5 hours.
[/QUOTE]There are women working in the daytime in the RLD, starting around 9 or 10 AM. There won't be many, but I think it's your only option.

[QUOTE=SargeBob22;2756081]How is your experiences with girls with this website?
Are they true to the ads?[/QUOTE]Not all of them. Many photoshopped pictures. Many girls who are older than advertised. Many pictures of 10 years ago, when they were still attractive and / or slim.
Some profiles are fake. Some look too good to be true (which is often indeed the case).
Some girls ask for a prepayment (never do that, it's always a scam).
Sometimes listed options (like anal, kissing, BBBJ, BBFS, for example) are 'suddenly' not available anymore when you meet. Especially be careful if all options are checked.

But there are hundreds of women on this site, so you can be lucky. It's really hit or miss.

[QUOTE=DorianPaul007;2756577]Hello All,

I will have a layover at Amsterdam next Saturday morning at 9 am for 5 hours.

So if you have any suggestions for this situation, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Best option for 5 hours. I did it myself.

[QUOTE=DorianPaul007;2756577]Hello All,

I will have a layover at Amsterdam next Saturday morning at 9 am for 5 hours.

So if you have any suggestions for this situation, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Park 118 opens at 11 am. Waiting lines are ridiculous at Schiphol though, so don't hang out too long.

[QUOTE=DorianPaul007;2756577]Hello All,

I will have a layover at Amsterdam next Saturday morning at 9 am for 5 hours.

So if you have any suggestions for this situation, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers![/QUOTE]If you don't need to be back at the airport until 2 pm, you've got opportunity to see ladies in either RLD or private houses.

By midday, and certainly by 1 pm, all of the day shift girls will be at De Wallen. There are very few between 9 am-10 am, but after 10 am you'll start seeing a few.

Most Private houses are open by 12 pm, so you could easily have a 1 HR session from 12 pm-1 pm.

Has anyone had any experience with Pinksheets escort agency?

[QUOTE=BobSmith1;2737411]

The only exciting place I want to go to is those big strip clubs in Tijuana. I'm sure there are better clubs in Mexico too but Tijuana is the closest.
What do you guys suggest for affordable exciting clubs with lower price like Tijuana?[/QUOTE]I too love Tijuana clubs and Tijuana street girls. My favorite club in the world is HK club there.

Are there street girls available in Amsterdam?

Is it legal for both them and the clients?

Can you easily bring such girls to your room at hotels.

I plan to be in Amsterdam in Early Feb.

Seeking guidance on where I can get at least 30 minutes fully nude service for 50 Euros or less.

I prefer to have very few limits on what is allowed / not. But, I am OK with no anal & no kissing.

[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2760138]Are there street girls available in Amsterdam?[/QUOTE]No, not for a long time.

I'll be in Amsterdam for, sadly, only 1 day (arrive Sunday morning, leave noon on Monday) and was looking to have adult fun that A is known for.

Is there an independent Amsterdam site for (hotel) escorts, similar to SkiptTheGames or others we have in the USA? I don't want to pay for an agency woman as they are almost always more expensive.

If it's really about clubs, is the Banana Club (I think it was) any good?

Last resort I'll hit the RLD. My preference would be greek / anal, but if that's pretty rare and expensive, then just a handjob by a nice brunette would work and probably be 50 Euros or so.

NB.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a good Amsterdam escort who provides Dinner Dates?

I'll be traveling to AMS after the holidays and would like to meet up with an escort who would like to accompany me to a nice, upscale dinner followed by a visit to one of the RLD sex shows (Casa Rosso) and then back to my hotel.

TIA!

Is this a legit form of payment? All the independent seeming providers I made arrangements with bring up neosurf or transcash at the end. They all also have the same story, that they were given forged notes and were assaulted, and so now they require you to buy a neosurf code and give it to them at the end of the deed.

This. Doesn't hold together.

Or, is it legit and I've been turning down perfectly good times?

[QUOTE=Clambard;2773858]Is this a legit form of payment? All the independent seeming providers I made arrangements with bring up neosurf or transcash at the end. They all also have the same story, that they were given forged notes and were assaulted, and so now they require you to buy a neosurf code and give it to them at the end of the deed.
This. Doesn't hold together.
Or, is it legit and I've been turning down perfectly good times?[/QUOTE]If you have to give them the code when you meet them, then I don't see a problem. If you have to give them the code before you meet, then it's most likely a scam.

[QUOTE=BoobiesLover;2753096]Yep, that's the site. Other options would be Khloe Consltancy or Secretagents. Don't go to S S, they suck.[/QUOTE]This is actually very timely info. I will be in Ams in mid January and was deciding between Society Service, Courtesan's club and some other newer agencies.

Could you please expand on how or why they "suck" (obviously, not in a good way). Looking at their webpage (blurred photos and all), I see some real beauties.

Looking here and elsewhere, I see some complaints about the management's communication style. But what about the girls and the sessions themselves?

How do they compare to CC?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2754367]Fully agree on SS, they used to be good, but now it's just 99% marketing, including outright bullshit in profiles. And M has very unpleast passive-aggressive communication style.[/QUOTE]I just posted a question to a similar comment re society service. Could you please expand on the issues with society service. Through the eyes of a newbie, their roster seems to be the largest and the timetable feature for each girl is very convenient. How do they under-deliver relative to other services at this price point?

One thing I noticed about all agencies is that they all charge about the same (700-800 per 2 hours and a sliding scale after that). I would expect that the service would be also very similar across different agencies or they would not stay in business for long.

Like a recent poster before me, I have a planned visit to Ams in a couple of weeks.

RLD is not my thing though I may change my opinion when I am there.

I am looking primarily for a good multi-hour dinner date escort who would provide GFE in and out of the bedroom.

Society service was my default interest, but some harsh things have been said about them on this forum recently.

Courtesan's club would be my next choice.

Also, any general dos and don't for Ams escort so I can get most out of it?

FYI, I am in my mid 30's, generally successful in vanilla dating, but don't speak a lot of Dutch.

[QUOTE=QuietRebel1917;2774928]

Looking here and elsewhere, I see some complaints about the management's communication style.[/QUOTE]There are many fake reviews about Society Service online. I've read reviews accusing Society Service of scamming, which is complete BS. AFAIK. But, Society Service has also been caught posting fake reviews and by that they lowered themselves to the same level, and that is certainly not high class. Shame is on both. Also Society Service and / or their crew started to harass posters who posted negative comments about the agency, again not high class.

Yes, the office has no manners and communicates in an unpolite and indecent way, while high class should be all about good manners. Of course when you go a restaurant, you go primarily for the food. However it's unacceptable when the waiter of hostess is rude and for example answers every question with: "check our website". That has a negative effect on the whole experience. I must say that the lady from the office is particularly scary.

[QUOTE=QuietRebel1917;2774928]

But what about the girls and the sessions themselves? [/QUOTE]I could write a book about high class escorting, but for me with a high class escort everything should be perfect. No escort from Society Service was able to completely empty my balls. Everything is controlled, even the allowed positions for anal (yes, really). Nice lingerie is great, but in the end it's about what happens between the sheets. One time I even had to explain male anatomy. The last girl from Society Service I have seen was Esmee. She has a beautiful angelic face. As a booby lover I more than loved her wonderful cup, but I also noticed her juicy ass in her tight jeans (double yammy). However, she was very business-like. I prefer the natural born sexual swagger of for example Chloe from Khloe Consultancy. She is sex. That level I have never experienced with Society Service. On average I have had better sex with women behind the windows than girls from Society Service. However, I did appreciate that Society Service stayed open for business during the last lockdown as the only agency (I don't think it was legal though).

If you are looking for real local gems go to other agencies. Society Service is an agency I'd raher keep my distance from. There are other agencies where I do feel appreciated as a customer.

[QUOTE=QuietRebel1917;2774928]
RLD is not my thing though I may change my opinion when I am there.[/QUOTE]If you change your mind about going go to RLD, I can recommend Antwerp rather than Amsterdam.

[QUOTE=QuietRebel1917;2774928]

Also, any general dos and don't for Ams escort so I can get most out of it?[/QUOTE]Most escort agencies have a chapter about etiquette. It's common sense really. Be hygienic, smell good, try not to fart too much, don't ask whether their parents know and don't grap them immediately by the pussy.

[QUOTE=QuietRebel1917;2774928]
their roster seems to be the largest[/QUOTE]I prefer quality above quantity.

[QUOTE=QuietRebel1917;2774928]

One thing I noticed about all agencies is that they all charge about the same (700-800 per 2 hours and a sliding scale after that). [/QUOTE]As for prices, if you also take into account travel costs and extra services, Society Service is a cheap escort agency.

Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=BoobiesLover;2775656]There are many fake reviews about Society Service online. I've read reviews accusing Society Service of scamming, which is complete BS. AFAIK. But, Society Service has also been caught posting fake reviews and by that they lowered themselves to the same level, and that is certainly not high class. Shame is on both. Also Society Service and / or their crew started to harass posters who posted negative comments about the agency, again not high class.

Yes, the office has no manners and communicates in an unpolite and indecent way, while high class should be all about good manners. Of course when you go a restaurant, you go primarily for the food. However it's unacceptable when the waiter of hostess is rude and for example answers every question with: "check our website". That has a negative effect on the whole experience. I must say that the lady from the office is particularly scary.

I could write a book about high class escorting, but for me with a high class escort everything should be perfect. No escort from Society Service was able to completely empty my balls. Everything is controlled, even the allowed positions for anal (yes, really).

If you are looking for real local gems go to other agencies.


I prefer quality above quantity.


As for prices, if you also take into account travel costs and extra services, Society Service is a cheap escort agency.

Happy mongering![/QUOTE]First, thank you for a detailed response.

What you say is also consistent with the vibe I got just from looking at their website.

When you boil it down to the basics, the formula for a successful escort experience is beauty + performance. I would further break performance into two components-sexual skill and chemistry (her making you forget she is doing this for the money and enveloping you with passion that at least seems natural).

It seems that the issue with Society girls (one that I recall someone else complaining about) is performance-they are lacking in sexual skill and are also too business-like and so fall short of the promised GFE.

I agree about quality over quantity. My reasoning behind admiring the scope of their roster is that a bigger selection means (all else being equal) you are more likely to find what you are looking for.

But, obviously, not if they are not selected and trained with an eye toward fostering sexual chemistry.

Also, I did NOT realize Society was on the cheaper side. All the ones I looked at seem to have a similar price profile, with the possible exception of Courtesan's club (it is slightly more expensive).

Could you please recommend the more expensive ones. I am asking not because money is no object but because, all things considered, I would rather have 3 memorable sessions than 5 mediocre ones. So, assuming money is no object, where would I take my business?

Hi All,

I thought of sharing my mongering experience in Amsterdam. I am staying here for the last 4 years and quality has reduced.

1. RLD: this is purely commercial and you can go there for quick fck only. Don't expect DFK or other GFE services.

2. Escortnews. Eu — this is the website I am using for some time for meeting girls. Standard rate 1 HR 200 euros. But now most of girls are either going to Istanbul or Greece.

3. Park 118 — I started going there recently and found it good. 1 HR 160 euros for jacuzzi.

If anyone has any other leads, please share.

Happy new year.

Visited Park 118 and requested Farah after reading so many posts about the place as well as cross referencing with girlsreview. I went in with high hopes but came away with it severely disappointed. Everything is so mechanical and I feel like it's all business. Farah. While an amazingly beautiful Iranian girl. Didn't know how to lead well or even know how to get me ready for penetration. Her moves felt like she was inexperienced and she's done decently well just based off her looks.

Looks ain't everything lady. Quality matters and after paying over 200 Euros and walking away with my balls full seems like a complete waste of time.

Hi All,

I went to Prague last month and was amazed by the massage parlours servicing over there. Are there any nice erotic massage parlours in Amsterdam or near by area?

Thanks a lot in advance.

[QUOTE=TigerCalling;2777681]Hi All,

I went to Prague last month and was amazed by the massage parlours servicing over there. Are there any nice erotic massage parlours in Amsterdam or near by area?

Thanks a lot in advance.[/QUOTE]Hey Tiger, I am not sure whether it is considered nearby, but I frequent Salon Leiden (Rooseveltstraat). They always have great providers.

[QUOTE=BoobiesLover;2777909]Hey Tiger, I am not sure whether it is considered nearby, but I frequent Salon Leiden (Rooseveltstraat). They always have great providers.[/QUOTE]Hi buddy,

Can you please share exact address via private message? Thanks a lot in advance.

I went to Amsterdam recently and after a few years I couldn't get there. See my other reports. I usually like to explore a city for all its types of working ladies and usually like to book a high class lady for longer periods of time, like all nights and go to swingers club. So here are my adventures in Amsterdam. I like to book the girl in advance, at least a week before.

I tried to find a girl to join me at a swingers club on Saturday night. Basically the prices in Amsterdam are 20% higher than Berlin.

Reviews for Up Class International Escorts Amsterdam - 9/10.

Booked a girl from Up Class International*[URL]https://www.upclassinternational.com/[/URL] - one of my favorite high class escort agencies. Booked*[URL]https://upclassinternational.com/en/mila[/URL] and it was a great service and fun hours. 700 Euro for two hours.

Reviews forSecret Agents Escorts Amsterdam - 8. 5/10.

Then I booked a girl from Secret Agents high class escort Agency*[URL]https://secretagents.nl/en/[/URL] - it was a pleasure too. Although a bit less than Up Class and I had to put down a deposit. The communication was perfect and the girl was a real PSE. *[URL]https://secretagents.nl/en/high-class-escort/amsterdam-amber/[/URL] . Overall a good memory. - 700 euro for two hours.

Reviews for Society*Service Escorts Amsterdam: [URL]https://www.societyservice.com/escorts/[/URL] - WARNING. BAD REVIEW - 2/10.

I tried to book a girl from the Society Service escort agency in Amsterdam and that was a tedious and bad experience. They wanted a deposit and only a bank transfer. Then they wanted*a copy of my diving license or other ID. Then they wanted a screenshot*of my booking reservation. All the communication with them was such a horrible experience. I would not recommend you even try them especially when you have much better options at the same price like Up Class International or Secret Agents.

Reviews for The Courtesan Club Escort Agency Amsterdam [URL]https://thecourtesanclub.com/[/URL] - 9/10.

Eventually I decided to book a lady to go with me to a swingers club on Saturday and I decided to book a girl from The Courtesan Club Escort Agency. That was a great experience. Great communication. Beautiful girl, very open minded, sexy and fun behavior. I had such a great time with her in the swingers club. - 2000 Euros for all night including everything!

I decided to try a few low end escort services in Amsterdam. - 5/10.

It was of course quite a bad experience. First of all, you can not book in advance. You need to call or send WhatsApp and see which girl is available. Most of the girls are not available during the day. Start around 4 pm or 6 pm. I tried to book this girl*[URL]https://www.desire-escorts.nl/escorts/Bianca/[/URL] she said she was from Italy but I think she is Romanian. Had very bad service. She looks much worse than in her photos. But at least she was cheaper. 150 euro for one hour. Still not worth it.

Fun4 two swingers club near Rotterdam reviews.

I went together with the lady from The Courtesan Club Agency to this club. It is a 50 min drive from Amsterdam. Quite far, but it is worth it. I think it is one of the best swingers clubs I have ever been to. Sexy people, yet very friendly. All ages. From 20 years old to 60 years old, good looking and fun. We had a cool time together and I think I had sex there with 5 more ladies on top of the girl I brought.

Mistress Arielle Amsterdam Reviews- WARNING. BAD REVIEW - 2/10.

I tried to go to a domina / dominatrix in Amsterdam, but actually it was quite hard to find. I decided to go to Swedish Mistress Arielle. That was a terrible mistake. First of all she is not in Amsterdam. That should have raised my first warning of dishonesty. It took me one hour to get to her and she is just next to the train station. I tell you, she was the worst domina I have ever been with. Such rude behaviour. I gave her my hard limits which I don't want to do and she ignored them. The bad smell at her place. Everything. I should have left before. This was a terrible mistake.

After the bad experience I had with Mistress Arielle in Amsterdam I needed some quick release so I went to the Red Light district in Amsterdam. And to my surprise it wasn't that bad. If you don't expect much this could be fun. Saw some nice looking girls for 50 euro. I got in with a sexy petite blonde from Serbia. Paid 80 euros for full fuck for 20 min. She was sexy. She did not rush the time. Actually quite a pleasant surprise.

Any chance of a BBBJ anywhere in Amsterdam?

Amigos!

In a few weeks I will be staying in Amsterdam for a long period of time. I would like to use this time to meet beautiful Dutch women. Until I have arrived in the Netherlands, I use my time to investigate where and with who I can spend my time. Can any of you help me out? I would lover to hear about agencies and specific women you would recommend me to book.

Thank you so much!

PG.

[QUOTE=PauloGustavo;2787611]Amigos!

In a few weeks I will be staying in Amsterdam for a long period of time. I would like to use this time to meet beautiful Dutch women. Until I have arrived in the Netherlands, I use my time to investigate where and with who I can spend my time. Can any of you help me out? I would lover to hear about agencies and specific women you would recommend me to book.

Thank you so much!

PG.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?732-Amsterdam&p=2786276&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2786276.

Great report, Avivis.

Would you mind sharing the name of the beautiful lady from CC.

I would appreciate that.

[QUOTE=Avivis;2786276]I went to Amsterdam recently and after a few years I couldn't get there. See my other reports. I usually*like to explore a city for all its types of working ladies and usually like to book a high class lady for longer periods*of time, like all nights and go to swingers club. So here are my adventures in Amsterdam. I like to book the girl in advance, at least a week before.

I tried to find a girl to join me at a swingers club on Saturday night. Basically the prices in Amsterdam are 20% higher than Berlin.

Reviews for Up Class International Escorts Amsterdam - 9/10.

Booked a girl from Up Class International*[URL]https://www.upclassinternational.com/[/URL] - one of my favorite high class escort agencies. Booked*[URL]https://upclassinternational.com/en/mila[/URL] and it was a great service and fun hours. 700 Euro for two hours.

Reviews for*Secret Agents*Escorts Amsterdam - 8. 5/10.

Then I booked a girl from Secret Agents high class escort Agency*[URL]https://secretagents.nl/en/[/URL] - it was a pleasure too. Although a bit less than Up Class and I had to put down a deposit. The communication was perfect and the girl was a real PSE. *[URL]https://secretagents.nl/en/high-class-escort/amsterdam-amber/[/URL] . Overall a good memory. - 700 euro for two hours.

Reviews for Society*Service Escorts Amsterdam: [URL]https://www.societyservice.com/escorts/[/URL] - WARNING. BAD REVIEW - 2/10..[/QUOTE]

I am going to be in Amsterdam for a few days in March and want to get the most out of my time there. I am HUGE into group play and popping as much as I can so getting a girl in a room isn't exciting (unless it is FKK in Germany style). In London I have gone to The Phoenix Club (there are places like this in the states as well).

[URL]https://thephoenixclub.london/location[/URL]

Where you pay a flat fee for a fixed amount of time and you have fun wither whomever is there. Does this sort of thing exist in Amsterdam?

I would be interesting in traditional sex clubs like Club Paradise, but not sure how a single American male would fare at a swingers club.

If anyone has more info about these settings (or others that cater my interests) I would gladyly appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Avivis;2786276]I went to Amsterdam recently and after a few years I couldn't get there. See my other reports. I usually*like to explore a city for all its types of working ladies and usually like to book a high class lady for longer periods*of time, like all nights and go to swingers club. So here are my adventures in Amsterdam. I like to book the girl in advance, at least a week before.
I went together with the lady from The Courtesan Club Agency to this club. It is a 50 min drive from Amsterdam. Quite far, but it is worth it. I think it is one of the best swingers clubs I have ever been to. Sexy people, yet very friendly. All ages. From 20 years old to 60 years old, good looking and fun. We had a cool time together and I think I had sex there with 5 more ladies on top of the girl I brought.
I got in with a sexy petite blonde from Serbia. Paid 80 euros for full fuck for 20 min. She was sexy. She did not rush the time. Actually quite a pleasant*surprise.[/QUOTE]Thank you for excellent information. I will be using Courtesan club girl in my upcoming travel to the city. We are a couple who will also like to go to Swingers club. Can not wait to get there!!

[QUOTE=AguaTheCat;2775822]Visited Park 118 and requested Farah[/QUOTE]Sorry to read your disappointing review. I visited Farah at Park 118 towards the end of January and had a completely enjoyable 30 min / 80 EUR session. While she wasn't the most into it of women I've seen, that is somewhat to be expected in higher volume houses, I think. She is incredibly hot in person, super skinny and knows what she's doing in bed. I came super hard in doggy. She has an amazing ass and tiny waist.

Overall it was a good way to help kill an 8 hour layover that I had at Schiphol Airport. Train to and from Park 118 was pretty straightforward, with a few minute walk on either side.

Amigos! I finally had my date. On the advice of a colleague, I chose a girl from Society Service. A very pleasant experience, I must say. The girl was very charming, chatty and sexy (blonde, just what I like). I had a really great time with her in a nice and casual restaurant in the center of Amsterdam. In the hotel room we continued our nice rendezvous and transformed it into a wild party. I plan to try other escort agencies in the near future. See if they can match the level of Society Service. Let's see! PG.

Amigos! I finally had my date. On the advice of a colleague, I chose a girl from Society Service. A very pleasant experience, I must say. The girl was very charming, chatty and sexy (blonde, just what I like). I had a really great time with her in a nice and casual restaurant in the center of Amsterdam. In the hotel room we continued our nice rendezvous and transformed it into a wild party. I plan to try other escort agencies in the near future. See if they can match the level of Society Service. PG.

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;2791484]I am going to be in Amsterdam for a few days in March and want to get the most out of my time there. I am HUGE into group play and popping as much as I can so getting a girl in a room isn't exciting (unless it is FKK in Germany style). In London I have gone to The Phoenix Club (there are places like this in the states as well).

[URL]https://thephoenixclub.london/location[/URL]

Where you pay a flat fee for a fixed amount of time and you have fun wither whomever is there. Does this sort of thing exist in Amsterdam?

I would be interesting in traditional sex clubs like Club Paradise, but not sure how a single American male would fare at a swingers club.

If anyone has more info about these settings (or others that cater my interests) I would gladyly appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I went to Paradise as a single North American guy a number of years ago. I think they still have a gangbang night, which means single guys are welcome. The clientele was a mixture of amateur swinger couples. Every once in a while, a couple would make themselves available for gangbang play. Naked single guys with boners would follow them like piranhas to the are where the guy would set her up for others to enjoy. He might go first. To ensure nobody left with blue balls, the management brought in 3-4 "house girls" to make sure everyone was happy. It wasn't a bad experience at all. You could guarantee consummating your relationship with a house girls, and, if you got to participate with a amateur or two, that was a bonus.

There are other clubs, but I didn't try them out. Of course, who knows what things are like post-COVID.

Hey guys,

I'm coming to Amsterdam for few days and I wanted to try out the local talent. I've heard the RLD window girls are not worth it, so what would you guys recommend?

Or rather, who would you recommend?

One thing I need for sure is BBBJ.

Any help is appreciated!

[QUOTE=Avivis;2786276]
Reviews for Society*Service Escorts Amsterdam: [URL]https://www.societyservice.com/escorts/[/URL] - WARNING. BAD REVIEW - 2/10.

I tried to book a girl from the Society Service escort agency in Amsterdam and that was a tedious and bad experience. They wanted a deposit and only a bank transfer. Then they wanted*a copy of my diving license or other ID. Then they wanted a screenshot*of my booking reservation. All the communication with them was such a horrible experience. I would not recommend you even try them especially when you have much better options at the same price like Up Class International or Secret Agents.[/QUOTE]I 100% AGREE with the poor service at Society Service Escorts. I paid $250 for the sneak preview to see the girl's faces, but after that the booking agent was so condescending and patronizing that it left a permanent bad taste in my mouth. If you ask a question then she tells you to look at the website, not be a "waste of time and should take this seriously. " I wrote off the $250 as a lesson learned and went with one of the other agencies, who were much more easy to work with. Dreams&Desires and Khloe Consultancy I can wholeheartedly recommend.

Avoid Society Services!

Same question, searched and searched.

My question would be at Fata Morgana which night has more older couples? We are at the older end of the age group. Looking for a more quiet night. Is that Friday night or Sunday. Does anyone go on Sundays?

[QUOTE=AluHut;2680303]Looking for someone with recent experience of Fata Morgana or Fun4 two. Search didn't turned out anything useful. If you willing to share please PM me.[/QUOTE]

Noticed our old contacts from before Covid just are not working anymore. All three of them are gone.

Any suggestions for a girl that is much older and works with Couples? Out call or in call?

40's is good and full figured all natural. Plus size is also OK can't be picky at our age.

[QUOTE=JoeBlogg1;2800071]I 100% agree with the poor service at S S Escorts. I paid $250 for the sneak preview to see the girl's faces, but after that the booking agent was so condescending and patronizing that it left a permanent bad taste in my mouth. If you ask a question then she tells you to look at the website, not be a "waste of time and should take this seriously. " I wrote off the $250 as a lesson learned and went with one of the other agencies, who were much more easy to work with. Dreams&Desires and Khloe Consultancy I can wholeheartedly recommend.

Avoid S S![/QUOTE]It is so strange to read that you have had bad experiences with S S. I have now had 3 bookings and I think this escort service knows exactly how to do it. The organization is professional and the ladies I have met so far are beautiful and also just professional.

What's up guys. Panini here.

I'm looking for voluptuous women with big tits and round ass. Money is no issue. So preferably high class. Any recommendations? Names? Links?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=PauloGustavo;2801006]It is so strange to read that you have had bad experiences with S S. I have now had 3 bookings and I think this escort service knows exactly how to do it. The organization is professional and the ladies I have met so far are beautiful and also just professional.[/QUOTE]SS used to be good. It was never "great" because of the way M does business, but it was a consistent quality you could rely upon. It went downhill really bad in last 2 years, the main problem is M's ridiculous communication style. She always was a bit condescending, now it's just plain fucking rude and dismissive. Read recent blog post on loyalty points. She literally calls her customers "beggars" because they dare to ask about using their points they earned according to her own rules.

On top of that SS has other issues. M clearly prefers to pick girls that look like her, and that type is far from prettiest that NL has. Horrible editing of photos also doesn't really help, although it got a tiny bit better recently. Very unstable roster, only few girls last longer than a year, most quit way earlier. The other side of consistent quality is that girls are trained for a very particular "script" and it gets boring really fast.

Greeted and told 20 minutes wait, I explain I would like a skinny the house madam told me that would be after 1400, I said take who Evers avaible and not fat. She bring Crystal, up the stair we went she start asking the questions do I want kisses, massage, I replied just straight sex, she replied I am not a machine. She start the blow job and I went to touch her pussy she said don't touch her pussy, we proceed to fuck, I go to put her legs over my shoulder she say no she don't like that so after that I just lay there and she check her clock say what you want to do I replied get dress and go. I have a wife who travel with me if I want to kis hug and make love I will with her. When I want to fuck I go to a private house escort or other types of prostitution. A waste of time and money.

Telling Uber driver my problem at park118, he drives me to the redlight district, the little girl I wanted said she was waiting on a client, the girls all made sexy faces but none knocked on window, I then just stop in front of this blonde girl door she open the door and was pretty cool explain the rules and cost, quick wash up and the fun began, blow job, a lot of conversation doggy, we then switch to miss legs over the shoulder I am hitting bottom then my wife started calling abd calling etc. She said she will be quite and call wife back, I say no I will leave she replied just call her back and finish. I said no quick wash up. Uber to the hotel. I think the small redlight district will be my first choice next time Amsterdam.

[QUOTE=AluHut;2801610]SS used to be good. It was never "great" because of the way M does business, but it was a consistent quality you could rely upon. It went downhill really bad in last 2 years, the main problem is M's ridiculous communication style. She always was a bit condescending, now it's just plain fucking rude and dismissive. Read recent blog post on loyalty points. She literally calls her customers "beggars" because they dare to ask about using their points they earned according to her own rules.

On top of that SS has other issues. M clearly prefers to pick girls that look like her, and that type is far from prettiest that NL has. Horrible editing of photos also doesn't really help, although it got a tiny bit better recently. Very unstable roster, only few girls last longer than a year, most quit way earlier. The other side of consistent quality is that girls are trained for a very particular "script" and it gets boring really fast.[/QUOTE]Hmm. I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it!

[QUOTE=PedroPanini;2801008]What's up guys. Panini here.

I'm looking for voluptuous women with big tits and round ass. Money is no issue. So preferably high class. Any recommendations? Names? Links?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Hi Panini. PauloGustavo here (hehe). If I may be so kind. Have a look at society service. I am also a lover of curvy women and they have several women who have the whole package. I met 3 (Nina, Sophie and Emma) and it was fantastic.

Keep me updated!

PG.

[QUOTE=PauloGustavo;2802823]Hi Panini. PauloGustavo here (hehe). If I may be so kind. Have a look at society service. I am also a lover of curvy women and they have several women who have the whole package. I met 3 (Nina, Sophie and Emma) and it was fantastic.

PG.[/QUOTE]Out of your 6 posts 4 are promoting SS.

[QUOTE=PauloGustavo;2802823]Hi Panini. PauloGustavo here (hehe). If I may be so kind. Have a look at society service. I am also a lover of curvy women and they have several women who have the whole package. I met 3 (Nina, Sophie and Emma) and it was fantastic.

Keep me updated!

PG.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro!

Hi Folks,

I am planning to visit Europe (from US) in couple of months. My plan is to stay there for 11 days, flying in and out of Frankfurt. I want to spend a good amount of time on mongering activities like visiting FKK clubs and hiring escorts (willing to spend on quality). Will also do some sightseeing along the way.

My rough plan right now:

Days 1-4 : Frankfurt, Cologne, Amsterdam.

Days 5-8: Barcelona.

Days 8-11 : Still deciding, but likely either Venice and Florence or Zurich and Munich.

Given the FKK club availability and proximity in Frankfurt, Cologne and Zurich + good escort scene in Barcelona, is it even worth making the trip to Amsterdam?

Would you recommend any changes in this plan?

I was initially thinking of doing Prague instead of Amsterdam, but I read that Prague is also a tourist trap now. So I thought I might as well visit the world famous tourist trap instead. The main attraction for Amsterdam for me is doing "unique" things like seeing live sex shows and at least experiencing the RLD.

How is Barcelona for mongering activities?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Normally, I'd say don't bother with Amsterdam. It is one of the worst places in Europe (or worldwide) for punting. The RLD doesn't need explanation and even the private houses & agencies are poor value compared to other places in Europe. However, you make a point about being intrigued by the sex shows and wanting to see the RLD; I can see the attraction for someone who has never been. You are also willing to spend so look at the reviews here and book an agency lady. Beware that the RLD experience probably won't be great if you decide to see a lady.

Barcelona is good in my opinion but that's for a different thread.

[QUOTE=Intelligencium;2803729]Hi Folks,

I am planning to visit Europe (from US) in couple of months. My plan is to stay there for 11 days, flying in and out of Frankfurt. I want to spend a good amount of time on mongering activities like visiting FKK clubs and hiring escorts (willing to spend on quality). Will also do some sightseeing along the way.

My rough plan right now:

Days 1-4 : Frankfurt, Cologne, Amsterdam.

Days 5-8: Barcelona.

Days 8-11 : Still deciding, but likely either Venice and Florence or Zurich and Munich.

Given the FKK club availability and proximity in Frankfurt, Cologne and Zurich + good escort scene in Barcelona, is it even worth making the trip to Amsterdam?

Would you recommend any changes in this plan?

I was initially thinking of doing Prague instead of Amsterdam, but I read that Prague is also a tourist trap now. So I thought I might as well visit the world famous tourist trap instead. The main attraction for Amsterdam for me is doing "unique" things like seeing live sex shows and at least experiencing the RLD.

How is Barcelona for mongering activities?

Thanks a lot in advance![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2803821]Normally, I'd say don't bother with Amsterdam. It is one of the worst places in Europe (or worldwide) for punting. The RLD doesn't need explanation and even the private houses & agencies are poor value compared to other places in Europe. However, you make a point about being intrigued by the sex shows and wanting to see the RLD; I can see the attraction for someone who has never been. You are also willing to spend so look at the reviews here and book an agency lady. Beware that the RLD experience probably won't be great if you decide to see a lady.

Barcelona is good in my opinion but that's for a different thread.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply! I read that Barcelona also has sex shows (in bagdad). And the only sex show in Amsterdam is at Casa Rosso. So is it worth coming in for that? Or are there more places like Casa Rosso in Amsterdam?

Agency ladies look to be cheaper in Barcelona. So given that I'll be sampling white European ladies in FKK clubs and then latinas in Barcelona and sexshow in Barcelona, I'm trying to justify the 1-2 days I'll spend in Amsterdam. Marijuana is not an attraction now given that US is legalizing it in some places. Maybe mushrooms are worth the trip? (Never tried them).

Yes if the weed is not an attraction for you, it might not be worth going to Amsterdam given you only have 4 days and want to go to other cities like Frankfurt in that time.

If you had a bit more time, and have never been, I would say Amsterdam is still worth a visit. Not for escorts or having services with the girls but just to see the RLD and the sex shows etc you talk about. You could easily spend an enjoyable couple of days there just walking around the RLD, and visiting the sex shows etc. You'll get your fix of girls in Frankfurt, Barcelona etc (Barcelona is cheaper and you'll get a better service)

Casa Rosso isn't the only sex show but is easily the best (Moulin Rouge sex show is also there but probably not worth going to). You also have other things such as a peepshow and a 5 D sex cinema.

[QUOTE=Intelligencium;2803874]Thanks for the reply! I read that Barcelona also has sex shows (in bagdad). And the only sex show in Amsterdam is at Casa Rosso. So is it worth coming in for that? Or are there more places like Casa Rosso in Amsterdam?

Agency ladies look to be cheaper in Barcelona. So given that I'll be sampling white European ladies in FKK clubs and then latinas in Barcelona and sexshow in Barcelona, I'm trying to justify the 1-2 days I'll spend in Amsterdam. Marijuana is not an attraction now given that US is legalizing it in some places. Maybe mushrooms are worth the trip? (Never tried them).[/QUOTE]

The other post was asking this also.

This is in an other Town, can anyone suggest a good Erotic Massage Place in Amsterdam.

I am looking for he and covered BJ no sex, not really wanting a Brother but a place that also does a good massage with a good ending.

[QUOTE=BoobiesLover;2777909]Hey Tiger, I am not sure whether it is considered nearby, but I frequent Salon Leiden (Rooseveltstraat). They always have great providers.[/QUOTE]

Been many countries punting first time in Amsterdam. What a nightmare!

Was on a short break didn't really intend to pay or look for sex just check out the city. But once I saw the girls in windows I was gobsmacked. So many 9's and 10's. I think the best I've ever seen with most amount good looking girls. So of course I asked prices. I remembered reading as per any interaction negotiate all services before you pay etc.

I spoke to many and most said 50 for BJ or just HJ and 100 for sex (one finish, some many positions others just one) Also either 15 or 20 minutes only, with touching all parts etc.

I decided on a couple I liked but couldn't find them and was getting late after speaking and negotiating with so many girls I was just assuming all same at this point. I had actually given up and going to go bed and one caught my eye so I said fuk it. Opened door I said how much she said 100 for 20 minutes. I sure I asked if I can touch her boobs she says we do whatever to make you happy. So I was like cool lets do it. Didn't think about asking more specific questions as all girls gave same answers and she was really friendly.

Went in cabin she asked for money before heading up to room so I agreed, assume is procedure.

Got to room she asked me undress, lie down, wasnt even hard she try put condom on. I said wait she said don't worry I take care. Again very chatty and friendly. Started handjob. Her phone goes. She puts it off.

I'm pretty drunk so not getting too hard and she can see that I say well are you going to undress, can I touch your boobs. She like no that's extra. I was like I paid 100 though for sex. She say no. 100 is starter price. You come room I get you ready then we talk about what you want next. So I'm like how much she says for me to undress 50, you want touch an extra 50. So I'm like that's 200 so I get sex to. She says not that's another 100. So 300! I'm like no way I negotiate with other girls 100 sex etc.

She starts going on about how they are all lying and all girls will be same and charge extras in room. I was saying I didn't agree with that, we started arguing. She kept going on about wanting more money. Then ask her friend to come to room, also her phone has gone off 3 times at this point. The friend was trying to back up all her points. I'm like I'm not paying for an argument. I don't believe what you are saying and I'm not paying any more money. They started insulting me and calling me cheap and so on. So much time wasted I said I got 10 minutes left so what can I do, shall I just wank haha, then she says you only have 4 minutes now you need 5 minutes to dress and leave room. Geez! I just decided get dressed and leave. Overall, had like a 1 minute condom hand job with a soft dick for 100 euros! What a nightmare!

On way back to hotel I saw 1 of the girls I talked with earlier. She opened door to get me come in. I was like so its for 100 euros I can do things you said she says yes, touch boobs, pussy, sex, 20 minutes etc. I said OK but is this the full price you won't charge me extra in room as another girl did. She then said all girls different you get what we agree for 100 Euros.

Well ID spent my money so wasnt going to go again haha just wanted to see what shed say. So who knows if she was going to stick to her word. But if she did then that's fine for the quality of looking girls you get but who knows?

End of day I messed up with girl not specifying everything that I was getting but I still feel even if I did she wouldve played some game and not do things to try get more money. (I don't know how much appearance matter I'm pretty boyish, quiet and somewhat small. Maybe if some big, aggressive or more macho guy goes she don't try these tricks?

So for all the quality of women its a case of striking it lucky? Or I hope it is and I was unlucky but if its the norm then I would defo 100% recommend not even try.

Its a shame as I've never seen such a high quantity of hot women, even in the RLD, FKK of Germany, Prague and so on! Spain sadly has too many S. Americans not E. Europeans.

I really don't know if I should go back and try another time. But actually could be lies to get you in room and was only Africans I don't like one older one was shouting out to me I like you come room for free, don't even need pay and another offfered me come for only 20 Euros but again could be complete lies so who knows what goes down in the RLD for someone first time and inexperienced I think you need get lucky?

But I don't have the time or money to get experienced in the area as I assume most non locals don't also, so they try rip off tourists.

I would like to try again as so many so hot but if so need some advice or just forget it? Can always get a 7 o 8 some place else cheaper even if Amsterdam does have 9-10's.

LOL, wastes girls time by negotiating with 'many' of them and then when he has the balls to do the deed, he is too drunk. Methinks you were the problem here. Don't be a noob next time and for god's sake, don't blame the girls for your lack of experience. You got noobed, and deservedly so. LOL.

[QUOTE=RatherBigOne;2808981]Been many countries punting first time in Amsterdam. What a nightmare!

Was on a short break didn't really intend to pay or look for sex just check out the city. But once I saw the girls in windows I was gobsmacked. So many 9's and 10's. I think the best I've ever seen with most amount good looking girls. So of course I asked prices. I remembered reading as per any interaction negotiate all services before you pay etc.

I spoke to many and most said 50 for BJ or just HJ and 100 for sex (one finish, some many positions others just one) Also either 15 or 20 minutes only, with touching all parts etc.

I decided on a couple I liked but couldn't find them and was getting late after speaking and negotiating with so many girls I was just assuming all same at this point. I had actually given up and going to go bed and one caught my eye so I said fuk it. Opened door I said how much she said 100 for 20 minutes. I sure I asked if I can touch her boobs she says we do whatever to make you happy. So I was like cool lets do it. Didn't think about asking more specific questions as all girls gave same answers and she was really friendly.

Went in cabin she asked for money before heading up to room so I agreed, assume is procedure.

Got to room she asked me undress, lie down, wasnt even hard she try put condom on. I said wait she said don't worry I take care. Again very chatty and friendly. Started handjob. Her phone goes. She puts it off.

I'm pretty drunk so not getting too hard and she can see that I say well are you going to undress, can I touch your boobs. She like no that's extra. I was like I paid 100 though for sex. She say no. 100 is starter price. You come room I get you ready then we talk about what you want next. So I'm like how much she says for me to undress 50, you want touch an extra 50. So I'm like that's 200 so I get sex to. She says not that's another 100. So 300! I'm like no way I negotiate with other girls 100 sex etc.

She starts going on about how they are all lying and all girls will be same and charge extras in room. I was saying I didn't agree with that, we started arguing. She kept going on about wanting more money. Then ask her friend to come to room, also her phone has gone off 3 times at this point. The friend was trying to back up all her points. I'm like I'm not paying for an argument. I don't believe what you are saying and I'm not paying any more money. They started insulting me and calling me cheap and so on. So much time wasted I said I got 10 minutes left so what can I do, shall I just wank haha, then she says you only have 4 minutes now you need 5 minutes to dress and leave room. Geez! I just decided get dressed and leave. Overall, had like a 1 minute condom hand job with a soft dick for 100 euros! What a nightmare!

On way back to hotel I saw 1 of the girls I talked with earlier. She opened door to get me come in. I was like so its for 100 euros I can do things you said she says yes, touch boobs, pussy, sex, 20 minutes etc. I said OK but is this the full price you won't charge me extra in room as another girl did. She then said all girls different you get what we agree for 100 Euros.

Well ID spent my money so wasnt going to go again haha just wanted to see what shed say. So who knows if she was going to stick to her word. But if she did then that's fine for the quality of looking girls you get but who knows?

End of day I messed up with girl not specifying everything that I was getting but I still feel even if I did she wouldve played some game and not do things to try get more money. (I don't know how much appearance matter I'm pretty boyish, quiet and somewhat small. Maybe if some big, aggressive or more macho guy goes she don't try these tricks?

So for all the quality of women its a case of striking it lucky? Or I hope it is and I was unlucky but if its the norm then I would defo 100% recommend not even try.

Its a shame as I've never seen such a high quantity of hot women, even in the RLD, FKK of Germany, Prague and so on! Spain sadly has too many S. Americans not E. Europeans.

I really don't know if I should go back and try another time. But actually could be lies to get you in room and was only Africans I don't like one older one was shouting out to me I like you come room for free, don't even need pay and another offfered me come for only 20 Euros but again could be complete lies so who knows what goes down in the RLD for someone first time and inexperienced I think you need get lucky?

But I don't have the time or money to get experienced in the area as I assume most non locals don't also, so they try rip off tourists.

I would like to try again as so many so hot but if so need some advice or just forget it? Can always get a 7 o 8 some place else cheaper even if Amsterdam does have 9-10's.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OfficeMatt;2809481]LOL, wastes girls time by negotiating with 'many' of them and then when he has the balls to do the deed, he is too drunk. Methinks you were the problem here. Don't be a noob next time and for god's sake, don't blame the girls for your lack of experience. You got noobed, and deservedly so. LOL.[/QUOTE]Bit harsh, I didn't waste this girls time. This was first time I spoke with her in fact I was looking for different girl or going bed it was 2 am and came across her and went stuff it shell do. Also wasnt waiting for balls to do it. Was still deciding which girl to choose and 2 or 3 I seen earlier waiting for them to reappear but they didn't.

Yeh I got noobed in room she asked me if I been before. I said no first time in amsterdam. Blew it there!

So I got noobed but I also got scammed and done nothing wrong with this specific girl. I asked like 4 girls over course of 2 hours their prices so wasted exactly 20 seconds of their time when they had no customer anyway.

I didn't deserve what I got at all BUT regardless.

The question is. Is it worthwhile to come back. I saw so many I liked. I would like to try them but make sure I get the service agreed for 100 euros? Its possible?

Another question. When walking past girls some would open door, wave, smile, others would be neutral and some would look away. I assumed the ones that looked away didn't like look of me or want me to go with them, is this correct? Not worth trying those ones?

If not I just go prague, Germany or spain again you get service (+more time) guaranteed there just the quality of girls not as good.

Though wouldn't mind going amsterdam summer see more of the city. Also I guess 2 am not best time to try last customer she don't care. Maybe earlier better but too many tourists about!!

Honestly, I'm mainly going for the legal drugs as I intend to enjoy the magic truffles and the weed cafes, and Amsterdam isn't (despite its reputation) the best place for punting in Europe in my opinion. I think you can get better and cheaper punts elsewhere like Germany or Spain. But I still wanted to try a bit more than just getting stoned, as it has been many years since I was last in the place and I'm sure lots has changed post-COVID.

I've already had one question answered earlier in this thread, which is that Casa Rosso is apparently the place to go for the live sex shows and the banana act; there aren't any phones allowed there are there though? Last time I saw that was 2005 and the smartphone was just a gleam in Steve Jobs' eye. Or was that the Bananenbar (and is that place any good, because I wouldn't mind taking a bite).

I've basically got two other questions which can each have different answers:

(a) aside from live sex shows what are the good establishments for sexual entertainment in Amsterdam these days? I'd be interested in a sex cinema if I can get a blowjob or hand job from a female (non-trans) lady there; same with a lap dancing club or a gloryhole, assuming there are any for straight guys. Not into any of the gay or kink scenes. Nothing against them, just not my cup of tea.

(b) I've visited the RLD twice before and had a decent time both punts, but I tend to prefer a longer booking; are there any brothels or happy ending massage places anyone can recommend? Alternatively what is a good website to find an indie on? I don't mind browsing, it has got to be less hit and miss than the RLD, both times I feel I got on with.

That's pretty much everything I can think of, except to ask what the best time to visit the RLD is if you're actually going punting there. I generally avoid the young blonde EEs on the main lanes because I expect they're mostly jaded and quite mechanical, but both times I've been out it was pretty early at night. Is it better during the day, or even the early morning (say 1 or 2 am)?

I will of course be giving a full trip report when I get back in late September. People can check my post history to see I've left reports elsewhere.

Hi Guys,

I will come to Amsterdam in a while and now I am looking for a good hotel (good price) where I can invite some girls.

Does one of you recommend one in the city centre? I prefer to have room with all the good stuff. Jacuzzi etc. A nice lounge etc I also like.

Thanks in advance!

PG.

Will report back my findings.

[QUOTE=BellaPacific;2709592]Hey at mexicron1988.

Also heading to Amsterdam soon. Here are the places I've found mentioned in threads. Unfortunately, there is not much on Asians.

Would anyone care to build on this list or comment on the various links? Thanks!

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/[/URL]

[URL]https://clubgoldenkey.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://club-lv.com/nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.asmara.nl/en/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.secretescorts.nl/[/URL]

[URL]www.pleasure-escort.nl[/URL]

[URL]www.leidenescort.nl[/URL]

[URL]www.societyservice.com[/URL]

[URL]https://thecourtesanclub.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://elitedolls.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://dollhouse.nl/[/URL]

[URL]www.redlights.nl[/URL]

[URL]https://www.kinky.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.sexguide.nl/[/URL][/QUOTE]

Thanks, that list is really handy!

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2812900]Will report back my findings.[/QUOTE]

I'm looking to visit Amsterdam in the near future and looking for higher-end, luxury class escorts.

Budget is not an issue.

Something like this would be a start:

[URL]https://thecourtesanclub.com/rates/[/URL]

Is there somewhere that I can see what 400+/500+ Euro an hour offers in Amsterdam?

Can even go up to 1000+ Euro an hour.

I'm looking for the best looking, possibly A-level service. What's the best venue to browse?

[QUOTE=Hnidkfa;2816653]I'm looking to visit Amsterdam in the near future and looking for higher-end, luxury class escorts.

Budget is not an issue.

Something like this would be a start:

[URL]https://thecourtesanclub.com/rates/[/URL]

Is there somewhere that I can see what 400+/500+ Euro an hour offers in Amsterdam?

Can even go up to 1000+ Euro an hour.

I'm looking for the best looking, possibly A-level service. What's the best venue to browse?[/QUOTE]Here are some independents that for the most part fit the bill. They are all reviewed on other boards. Don't ask for links to those reviews, since we can't post them here.

[URL]https://submissivefetishescort.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.dariaindependentescort.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://escort.guide/Escort/Alesandra-153554[/URL]

[URL]https://submissivefetishescort.com/[/URL]

Nice slender body and physically my type. I'm not into BDSM and too bad she doesn't offer PSE!

[URL]https://www.dariaindependentescort.com/[/URL]

Body too masculine, face not attractive. Everyone's preference is different but she is below my standard.

[URL]https://escort.guide/Escort/Alesandra-153554[/URL]

Nice slender body but a bit of mileage at 31, okay face, at 150 EUR / h screams high volume!

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2816724]Here are some independents that for the most part fit the bill. They are all reviewed on other boards. Don't ask for links to those reviews, since we can't post them here.

[URL]https://submissivefetishescort.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.dariaindependentescort.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://escort.guide/Escort/Alesandra-153554[/URL][/QUOTE]Additional research at [URL]https://www.sexguide.nl/[/URL] and some candidates:

[URL]https://www.sexguide.nl/emily-713864[/URL] 250 EUR / h.

[URL]https://www.sexguide.nl/holly-737307[/URL] 250 EUR / h.

[URL]https://www.sexguide.nl/kristina-743426[/URL] 300 EUR / h.

[URL]https://www.sexguide.nl/alisa-753696[/URL] 300 EUR / h.

Candidate agencies: [URL]https://thecourtesanclub.com/[/URL] and [URL]https://www.dreamsanddesires.nl/en/netherlands-escorts/[/URL].

If anyone sees an agency that's a tier higher than these, I'd be glad to take one for the team!

Overall I'm looking for 8+ with GFE minimum and PSE preferred.

I'm staying in Amsterdam for only a few days and lack time to punt!

Though I have a generous budget so willing to pay a premium!

Any leads helps plan my trip! Thank you once again!

[QUOTE=RatherBigOne;2808981]Been many countries punting first time in Amsterdam. What a nightmare!

Was on a short break didn't really intend to pay or look for sex just check out the city. But once I saw the girls in windows I was gobsmacked. So many 9's and 10's. I think the best I've ever seen with most amount good looking girls. So of course I asked prices. I remembered reading as per any interaction negotiate all services before you pay etc.

I spoke to many and most said 50 for BJ or just HJ and 100 for sex (one finish, some many positions others just one) Also either 15 or 20 minutes only, with touching all parts etc.

I decided on a couple I liked but couldn't find them and was getting late after speaking and negotiating with so many girls I was just assuming all same at this point. I had actually given up and going to go bed and one caught my eye so I said fuk it. Opened door I said how much she said 100 for 20 minutes. I sure I asked if I can touch her boobs she says we do whatever to make you happy. So I was like cool lets do it. Didn't think about asking more specific questions as all girls gave same answers and she was really friendly..[/QUOTE]My first time in Amsterdam was much like this, she smelled inexperience and alcohol and ripped you off. You do give me hope with the description of the quality of ladies. I have been limiting myself to FKK clubs based on reports of the RLD, but might give it a go for the first time since COVID. How full were the windows or can you give an estimate of total number of ladies you think were working?

I have been ripped off by the same stuff before. It happens but you will learn. Some even had explicit agreements then lied about what they said after I was undressed, or did aggravating shit like put on multiple condoms. Most issues were Russian and local ladies, all smoking hot blonds. So from my learnings I always ask where are you from, first then if they are local or Russian I avoid if they have the first hint of attitude or try to rush me into the room without negotiation.

On the flip side I met a Bulgarian lady and had an awesome time for €50. After seeing her multiple times on my monthly visits to EU she became more friendly and I enjoyed longer visits with a more open menu. You just have to roll the dice sometimes and learn.

Noted for the&the. SS is no-go for me, too many bad reports.

Have you tried The Courtesan Club, what about individual escorts?

Just looking for confirmation of successful sessions with high-class escorts because I'm only spending a few days there with a generous budget, and would rather not do coin flips (unless it's at the RLD which I will try as well)!

[QUOTE=Avivis;2817731]See my previous posts. I had bad experience with dreamsanddesires. My suggestion is not to book from them. They had me through a tedious screening process and then did not send the girl eventually.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hnidkfa;2818463]Noted for the&the. SS is no-go for me, too many bad reports.

Have you tried The Courtesan Club, what about individual escorts?[/QUOTE]See my previous post. I'd start with upclassinternational.

[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;2749448]Reading one of the post, it seem that there is a good agency called upclass. Is it the site upclassinternational. COM? Any other suggestion of good agencies would be most welcome.
[QUOTE=BoobiesLover;2753096]Yep, that's the site. Other options would be Khloe Consltancy or Secretagents. Don't go to Society Service, they suck.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]

So,

After Lisbon I went to Amsterdam for two nights to enjoy a bit. I report from many places around the world. See my reports from Bogota, Rio, Lisbon, Berlin and more.

I am into high class high end top notch escorts and I am willing to pay for it.

Amsterdam is one of my favourite places and has plenty of benefits. Reliable escort agencies and one of the best places for Swingers Clubs. The only problem is that it is quite expensive, and sometimes a bit difficult to communicate with the girls*and the agency. But still the best of the best ladies.

First lady: Erin from The Courtesan Club. Tall sexy lady, very submissive, highly intelligent and can hold a conversation. She can do very sexy BDSM such as spanking and more crazy stuff and she enjoys it. We played a few hours in the room and then went to the ShowBoat swingers club.

Look: 8/10 - slim tall sexy.

Act: 9/10 - she enjoys it all and very open minded in swingers club and with a-level.

Price: 1600 euro for a few hours.

The courtesan*club: 8/10, Good escort agency, easy to communicate, charge extra for swingers club, communication only via email but they answer fast.

The swingers club showboat. Eu.

Basically this is a good club, but it varies dramatically*during the days. Some days are good, and some days you get only a handful*of people. This was quite an empty visit, but somehow we did enjoy it.

Second lady:

Amber from Secret*Agents.

A curvy lady. Huge fake tits, huge fake ass, fake lips, bimbo style. But very kinky, very sexy and an enjoyable person with dirty fantasies and role play. Had her in my room for two hours in Amsterdam.

Look: 8/10 - voloptures but augmented.

Act: 8/10 - kinky, anal, fantasies.

Price: 700 euro*+ 75 euro for the commute + 50 euro for role play.

Secret*Agents Agency: 8/10 - communication by whatsapp but they don't answer quick enough.

Third lady:

Amanda from Uplcass escort. One of my favourite escort agencies although lately it has become hard to understand their pricing model which affects my incentive*to book from them again. Amanda is a new lady, and very sexy lady, tall, slim, no butt though, but still a very fun lady. We had nice fun at the swingers club fun4 two.

Look: 8/10 - tall and slim.

Act: 8. 5/10 - enjoyable, kinky, funny, no a-level but with games and very open minded in the swingers club.

Price: 1500 euro for 5 hours BUT it is a tedious bad policy of the agency that does not allow you to extend the meetings. Only if you set the duration ahead!

Upclass Escort Agency: 8/10 - great ladies, good communication. They could have received a score of 9/10 or even higher if they would allow the meeting to* be extended.

Fun4 two swingers club.

One of the best if not THE best swingers club in the world. Had great experiences there with many couples swapping and playing with the lovely escort I took and the couples. A fun place. *.

[QUOTE=Avivis;2818978]So,First lady: Erin from The Courtesan Club. Tall sexy lady, very submissive, highly intelligent and can hold a conversation. She can do very sexy BDSM such as spanking and more crazy stuff and she enjoys it. We played a few hours in the room and then went to the ShowBoat swingers club.
[/QUOTE]Avivis, let me start by saying that your reports are an inspiration. Concerning Erin, I love the service of TCC and I have / had my eye on Erin, I think she is my type. On the TCC website it says Erin is based in London. Did you meet her in Amsterdam? Was she there? Or did she fly in?

Thanks.

You make some good points and you've been to Amsterdam before but I would say there have always been a lot of 9's and 10's in the RLD in terms of looks. Obviously, there are far fewer girls than there used to be a few years ago. But seeing 9's and 10's is very common, it's what sucks the tourists in to subsequently be ripped off!

In terms of numbers, it's been reported recently that there are around 60-70 girls in the main RLD (De Wallen) at the peak times (e.g. Saturday night) and only 20 odd at the most off-peak times (e.g. Monday morning).

Even with the good rip-off avoidance advice you make, it's still a big risk. I would guess that slightly over half of the 60-70 girls at peak times would either rip you off or give you a very poor service (not necessarily rip off). They are so used to collecting 100-200 euros for doing almost nothing, that they almost don't know how to give an honest and good service.

It sounds like you are keen to return to the Amsterdam RLD and roll the dice! Good luck.

[QUOTE=JunkSecond;2818037]My first time in Amsterdam was much like this, she smelled inexperience and alcohol and ripped you off. You do give me hope with the description of the quality of ladies. I have been limiting myself to FKK clubs based on reports of the RLD, but might give it a go for the first time since COVID. How full were the windows or can you give an estimate of total number of ladies you think were working?

I have been ripped off by the same stuff before. It happens but you will learn. Some even had explicit agreements then lied about what they said after I was undressed, or did aggravating shit like put on multiple condoms. Most issues were Russian and local ladies, all smoking hot blonds. So from my learnings I always ask where are you from, first then if they are local or Russian I avoid if they have the first hint of attitude or try to rush me into the room without negotiation.

On the flip side I met a Bulgarian lady and had an awesome time for 50. After seeing her multiple times on my monthly visits to EU she became more friendly and I enjoyed longer visits with a more open menu. You just have to roll the dice sometimes and learn.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoobiesLover;2819328]Avivis, let me start by saying that your reports are an inspiration. Concerning Erin, I love the service of TCC and I have / had my eye on Erin, I think she is my type. On the TCC website it says Erin is based in London. Did you meet her in Amsterdam? Was she there? Or did she fly in?.[/QUOTE]Yes.

She is based in London as far as I know. But sometimes she goes to Amsterdam or you can book here in London, or when she is in Amsterdam or Fly her in / take a train.

Hi, is there any reputable escort websites for Amsterdam? I've been looking through a few of them and they have clearly fake profiles, using porn stars pictures etc, how to know what is real?

[QUOTE=MoonWalker123;2819944]Hi, is there any reputable escort websites for Amsterdam? I've been looking through a few of them and they have clearly fake profiles, using porn stars pictures etc, how to know what is real?[/QUOTE]Worked with the three of them and they are very much respectable and give excellent service and communication:

[URL]https://upclassinternational.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://thecourtesanclub.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://secretagents.nl/en/high-class-escorts/[/URL]

Long text but just very excited to plan my next AMS visit after 1. 5 years a away.

I went to Amsterdam 2 x last year, was my first time. While I read how much better it was before, I still had an amazing time. First was in February, right after Covid rules relaxed. It was very cold, but I was amazed with the fast food McDonalds approach that RLD provided. In a week I had 7 providers, and repeated 1. Including arguably the hottest working girl I've ever had (a black haired hotter in shape version of Kylie Jenner, appeared Italian but was EE, including a 3 some with the most perfect tits I've ever felt. The 2nd trip I was solo, came for 2 days only, but it was warmer so I experienced the lovely canals & being outside. Had 6 encounters and repeated 1 lovely Hungarian (typical plastic enhancements) where we still write fondly on Insta occasionally.

I hear about the rules that the RLD closes before 4 am or something, and the George youtube channel showing some awful tourist crowds. I didn't experience that last year but now it's a year of full covid travel openings. I recently went to Barcelona for the 1st time and it was equally as great, and better in each other's as you work the brothels and independents easier.

I'm eyeballing another 2-3 day trip from Miami Airport at some point this fall when prices aren't as insane. I sleep well on planes, so take a red eye Thurs night, land by Fri 10 am, have all Fri and Sat, leave Sun morning, get to a De Wallen cheapest hotel / airbnb / hostel. Last trip when I got to my room I barely napped and took the 7 min walk so giddy. That Fri night the super hot Kylie even remembered me immediately, pointed me out in a crowd of that one way traffic with 5 rows deep, like within 1. 5 secs of eye contact. Granted I don't look like the other punters that I see on my trips (usually it's younger Brits, or a group of flashy Middle Eastern dudes, none that I match). After 1 night session I walked to De Pijp to recharge. Maybe 2 girls interested in, but while my balls drained I didn't have the drive to approach them.

So while I'm still an AMS noob, I've still had 12 window girls. This was my strategy. I start at a southernmost point, and do a full loop. Very slowly, and make a mental note who's there. I start from beginning and do my negotiations. I was very timid at first, almost feeling embarrassed I only speak English. The usual requests, full service CBJ & FS, plus touching. Everyone met request except 1 hot short EE that looked like an enhanced Kate Beckinsale (she made me feel like she hated my guts, I even gave her a chance to decline me entering, but she must've just wanted $. Another blonde EE Barbie was going to upsell when I wanted to switch from doggy. But overall 90% very acceptable. Prices were 100-150 E. Though that Kylie Jenner had a booth further north on OZA canal and requested a 100 E deposit with another 300 E for 30 min with her other booth friend for a 3 some. Way overpriced, but it was my 1st 3 some and both girls were a 10 and an 8.

My last visit I was self conscious during the day, and less so at night. Because there was only 2 maybe 3 other legit punters for every row I was on. So when you walk up rando tourists judge, but I shouldn't care, I don't live in Euro. I also feel if I didn't accept a girls offer, that I needed to disappear or let other girls see me. In hindsight after my 2nd girl and having made 6-7 passes in a day I felt some girls were friendlier when they saw I was actually there to pay & would give 20-30 E less.

My plan next time, is to avoid the fully swarmed tourist time which is around 10 pm-12 am I believe. I'll still make my 1st pass. Then 2nd pass for negotiations, still make the 2nd full pass to compare offers as well as see who I didn't see the 1st pass. Sure I may lose a girl on the return, but 1 all I have to do is wait 15-20 min downstream if I'm really craving her & just wait for the punter to pop out. I also need to settle down more, if I don't like the girls offer I decline respectfully and move to the next desired girl even if next to her. Also in the alleys windows I prefer to strafe one wall the first pass and strafe the other once I get to the end. Otherwise if I ping pong between both walls I get too anxious. I don't expect it, but I'll request kissing too. BBBJ, I just ask once I'm in the room if there's an extras and see if they offer it with no resistance. Only had 1 girl offer and it was 50 E extra, though she was amazing. I also exchanged some Whatsapp numbers if it's a great session and tell them I'm there all weekend & will be return in frequently, so as a short term & long term incentive for them.

A long ramble, but hopefully it serves to give any hype for future mongers who are looking for a highly accessible, simple, and safe locale.

Guys,

I am planning to visit a swingersclub in Amsterdam with a prostitute.

Does anyone has experience with that?

You book the girl, bring her to the club and then what? You share her to anyone?

What is a good swingerclub in Amsterdam to bring the girl?

Answers much appreciated.

PG.

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2818978]So,

After Lisbon I went to Amsterdam for two nights to enjoy a bit. I report from many places around the world. See my reports from Bogota, Rio, Lisbon, Berlin and more.

I am into high class high end top notch escorts and I am willing to pay for it.

Amsterdam is one of my favourite places and has plenty of benefits. Reliable escort agencies and one of the best places for Swingers Clubs. The only problem is that it is quite expensive, and sometimes a bit difficult to communicate with the girls*and the agency. But still the best of the best ladies.

First lady: Erin from The Courtesan Club. Tall sexy lady, very submissive, highly intelligent and can hold a conversation. She can do very sexy BDSM such as spanking and more crazy stuff and she enjoys it. We played a few hours in the room and then went to the ShowBoat swingers club.

Look: 8/10 - slim tall sexy...[/QUOTE]Dear IsaBahn,

Thanks for sharing all your experiences.

I saw you have visited Lisbon lately. I am planning to go in a view weeks.

Do you have any recommendations?

Clubs, websites, agencies?

Would love to hear from you.

Cheers!

You may get better information if you ask for Lisbon recommendations in the Lisbon forum.

[QUOTE=PedroPanini;2822417]Dear IsaBahn,

Thanks for sharing all your experiences.

I saw you have visited Lisbon lately. I am planning to go in a view weeks.

Do you have any recommendations?

Clubs, websites, agencies?

Would love to hear from you.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

Hi all,

I will be in Amsterdam for a day next Thursday. I'm looking for incall or massages. Do you have any recommendations? Thank you!

Hi,

I am going to Amsterdam in September. Honestly, I don't want to even bother with the RLD. I hear that it is so crowded nowadays.

Does anyone know a club or a escortservice that is not a scam / sketch? Also, are hotels friendly to these type of guests?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=HelloAllHowAre;2825889]Hi,

I am going to Amsterdam in September. Honestly, I don't want to even bother with the RLD. I hear that it is so crowded nowadays.

Does anyone know a club or a escortservice that is not a scam / sketch? Also, are hotels friendly to these type of guests?

Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2826060][URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/[/URL][/QUOTE]They are well stocked lately.

Hi all, seems like Amsterdam has changed a lot since my visit 5 why ago. Looking for some recommendations on massage places. What actually needed: good and strong massage, a lot of teasing, good service (no clock watching and that kind of shit) B2B and HJ / BBBJ as a bonus. No FJ. Place has to be clean and nice as well. Any recommendations on this please? Would appreciate!

Love Club 21 and Heaven Thai Spa. Amsterdam cracked down on unlicensed parlours, so it's unlikely even to get a HJ in most legit places.

Hey so I'm visiting Amsterdam July 5th and 6th, and have been in contact with this girl from eurogirlescort.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/maria/357539/?list=mzp8pg[/URL]#.

Has anyone else seen her, are there any solid reviews floating around? Also is the RDL worth checking out, it's my first time in Amsterdam.

Hey I'm single in Amsterdam, do I absolutely need a girl with me to visit a swingers club? Or am I just stuck with escorts and RDL for good experiences?

[QUOTE=BoobiesLover;2826112]They are well stocked lately.[/QUOTE]I wish they had more social media. When I've gone there have been only a few people working.

Looks like the city is trying to shut down De Wallen but it looks like they're going to do it for real this time. Sigh.

Folks, I am trying to get from AMS schipol to park 118 . HOw to do that by train? Any advice would be helpful. Also Is there any other place with good selection of ladies for a layover bang? I don't want to get a hotel.

[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2835726]Folks, I am trying to get from AMS schipol to park 118 . HOw to do that by train? Any advice would be helpful. Also Is there any other place with good selection of ladies for a layover bang? I don't want to get a hotel.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.ns.nl/en[/URL]

From: Schiphol Airport.
To: Sarphatipark 118.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2834536]Looks like the city is trying to shut down De Wallen but it looks like they're going to do it for real this time. Sigh.[/QUOTE]If they do me and my friends will never go to their country again or ever.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2835991]If they do me and my friends will never go to their country again or ever.[/QUOTE]Same, I've been to Ams / Ned twice, in spring and summer and hit up all the tourist spots. It's the only monger city I can get to with a direct redeye which allows me to enjoy a full 3 day weekend. While I hear it's a shell of its hey day, I did feel like there were 15-20 girls I was interested. It's not intimate, but I like the ability to negotiate in person with such ease like fast food. If RLD shuts down I'd just go to Barcelona as my Euro spot, eventually Frankfurt / Zurich for FKK. Numerous public and private brothels for better rates and great girls.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2837226]Same, I've been to Ams / Ned twice, in spring and summer and hit up all the tourist spots. It's the only monger city I can get to with a direct redeye which allows me to enjoy a full 3 day weekend. While I hear it's a shell of its hey day, I did feel like there were 15-20 girls I was interested. It's not intimate, but I like the ability to negotiate in person with such ease like fast food. If RLD shuts down I'd just go to Barcelona as my Euro spot, eventually Frankfurt / Zurich for FKK. Numerous public and private brothels for better rates and great girls.[/QUOTE]What I've done is fly into AMS, stay a couple days, then rent a car and visit the German NRW FKKs for a few. But that's too much for a 3 day.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2834536]Looks like the city is trying to shut down De Wallen but it looks like they're going to do it for real this time. Sigh.[/QUOTE]Yes, but they want to open a new RLD (in a building) somewhere else in the city. But of course this will never have the charm of De Wallen.

Hello, are there any agencies in Amsterdam, that would let you have a quick 1-2 minute video chat with a girl to check appearance and general vibe?

Otherwise, what are good online or other sources to find independents, as these are more open to a quick clarifiying video chat?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2835951][URL]https://www.ns.nl/en[/URL]

From: Schiphol Airport.
To: Sarphatipark 118.[/QUOTE]Dear Sir,

I cannot open the website here in US. May I request to paste instructions here or send me a DM? Much obliged.

[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2838438]Dear Sir,
I cannot open the website here in US. May I request to paste instructions here or send me a DM? Much obliged.[/QUOTE]Can you download the app in Google Play Store? Search for NS, Nederlandse Spoorwegen, or Dutch railways.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2837226]Same, I've been to Ams / Ned twice, in spring and summer and hit up all the tourist spots. It's the only monger city I can get to with a direct redeye which allows me to enjoy a full 3 day weekend. While I hear it's a shell of its hey day, I did feel like there were 15-20 girls I was interested. It's not intimate, but I like the ability to negotiate in person with such ease like fast food. If RLD shuts down I'd just go to Barcelona as my Euro spot, eventually Frankfurt / Zurich for FKK. Numerous public and private brothels for better rates and great girls.[/QUOTE]Same here. I agree though it's not intimate to the point where I just go to RLD just to drink and smoke. Some girls are way too robotic even if they are hot.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2838528]Can you download the app in Google Play Store? Search for NS, Nederlandse Spoorwegen, or Dutch railways.[/QUOTE]App worked. That is more helpful. So let me ask this as well. My flight lands at 9 am and my connecting is an 3:30 pm. Is it worthwhile to out for a quick fuck at park 118 or should I just stay in the airport and the risk of me missing my connection is high? On Sunday is there more than one girl available there at noon?

Finally is this good place for brunch?

[URL]https://www.littlecollins.nl/home/depijp[/URL]

[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2838906]App worked. That is more helpful. So let me ask this as well. My flight lands at 9 am and my connecting is an 3:30 pm. Is it worthwhile to out for a quick fuck at park 118 or should I just stay in the airport and the risk of me missing my connection is high? On Sunday is there more than one girl available there at noon?[/QUOTE]As you can see in the app, it will take you only 21 to 25 minutes to get back to the airport from Park 118, if you take one of the fastest options. So if you're there at noon and have a one hour session, you can be back at the airport around 1:30 pm.

I really wouldn't know how many girls there are on Sundays. I have only been there once, and that was many years ago.

[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2838906]
Finally is this good place for brunch?
[URL]https://www.littlecollins.nl/home/depijp[/URL][/QUOTE]Never been there, but they get good reviews on Tripadvisor.

Hey, as my name suggests, I love women with long flowing natural hair (Rapunzels). Extremely difficult to find them.

Any suggestions / leads for women with long flowing hair? I'm willing to travel to other parts of EU as well.

Please let me know.

Anyone have any experience with this Escort? [URL]https://www.topescort.com/elza-748712[/URL].

Got scammed in the red light by some girl from Macedonia. I knew the scam they pull by saying 100 and then switching to 500 after they give you a 2 min HJ. So I was clear with all the girls what I wanted and how much. This one girl told me we will have sex, kiss, everything, even get married for 100. I wasn't thinking right and after talking to more girls I went back to her window and went in. She totally switched the price to 500 for everything. I ended up laughing about it with her and left. She told me "Never trust a girl from Macedonia".

After that I went to a different window where I already knew had a good girl. Russian girl in the area of the red light that drops down into that basement area with 5 or so windows. BBBJ, sex and kiss for 200. Russian girl who spoke good English and was cool. It was my first time so I had to partake but I wouldn't go back.

Do all the girls here require payment upfront? I've read about 11 pages worth of reports here (while waiting at FKK Artemis), and everyone seems to pay first. And then, I read all these reports on scams. Any suggestions on how to avoid these scams? How are you supposed to avoid a scam if you're paying upfront?

TIA. I'll post a report in a couple days.

Amsterdam is such a waste of time. It's where a complete novice would go. The girls in RLD are mostly ugly and overpriced. I would rather go to the small, quiet, and clean RLD in Eindhoven than to step foot in De Wallen.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2842850]Do all the girls here require payment upfront? I've read about 11 pages worth of reports here (while waiting at FKK Artemis), and everyone seems to pay first. And then, I read all these reports on scams. Any suggestions on how to avoid these scams? How are you supposed to avoid a scam if you're paying upfront?

TIA. I'll post a report in a couple days.[/QUOTE]When I went almost ten years ago, from my experience, I had to pay first. Amsterdam is very overrated. I don't know what's the appeal.

What is the Pijp like these days?

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2842850]Do all the girls here require payment upfront? [/QUOTE]Yes, they do. Standard procedure in all RLD's here.

Amsterdam RLD, especially De Wallen, will get you scammed about 3 out of 4 times. It's too easy to do so with all the gullible British tourists walking around. De Pijp is a bit better. The ladies around the old church will show you a good time if you're into black BBWs. Go to Haarlem, Alkmaar, or the Hague instead if you're set on going to an RLD. Or just check kinky. NL for some incall action.

We are group of 3 friends and have few hours in amsterdam 9 pm-3 am today. Looking for recommendations on clubs to go (or escort service) if we have budget of say 300-500 eur each. Will appreciate any recommendations.

Back to AMS for my yearly visit.

The window scene has changed a lot from pre-Covid days.

Gone are the windows in the Old Church area. This area had a special magic, with very narrow streets, and what used to be a high class selection.

Also now very sparse with vey few windows working was the Spuistraat area. Which used to be a preferred area for me.

Exploring on a weekend night is almost impossible due to the massive crowds of tourists and a strictly enforced one direction walk route.

Checking out the merchandise. All I was offered now was 100 Euros. For 20 minutes, so they say.

Gone are the 50 Euro suck & fuck experiences of the past.

I found that best value to be had was the 65 Euro massage & happy end at LoveClub21 on Koestraat (for me 3 nights in a row!

Cheers.

G.

Hello friends,

I'll be in Amsterdam for a week in mid November for business trip. I'm trying to get some extra fun with this trip. Appreciate if there is anyone who can share some tips or referrals.

In return, I will be able to help out if you come to Sri Lanka.

[QUOTE=Gesheft;2855151] a strictly enforced one direction walk route[/QUOTE]What!? Are there signs and cops? If I decide to go back to a window I passed, do I have to walk all the way around again?

Looking at 3 day trip in Nov since there's a suprisingly cheap direct flight from me from east coast. Hows the RLD these days?

My reference was last year, last July '22 was most recent. Never experience the pre Covid heyday, but I still had a fun time on the Oederkirk? Canal loop, from the silver bridge all the way north 3 blocks. As well as the 2 west alleys and 2 east alleys (except the tranny one LOL). There was tourist forced paths, but I didn't care because it was not there during day visits, and after 12:30 pm-1 am it calmed down. Plus I don't care about strangers. I remember at least 15 girls being worth a look with 3 of them being knockouts. Being more experienced I feel like I have more confidence plus the time to enjoy.

Also I have to look up again there's another RLD outside of AMS that's a day trip and may be less corporate and more value?

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2865622]Looking at 3 day trip in Nov since there's a suprisingly cheap direct flight from me from east coast. Hows the RLD these days?

My reference was last year, last July '22 was most recent. Never experience the pre Covid heyday, but I still had a fun time on the Oederkirk? Canal loop, from the silver bridge all the way north 3 blocks. As well as the 2 west alleys and 2 east alleys (except the tranny one LOL). There was tourist forced paths, but I didn't care because it was not there during day visits, and after 12:30 pm-1 am it calmed down. Plus I don't care about strangers. I remember at least 15 girls being worth a look with 3 of them being knockouts. Being more experienced I feel like I have more confidence plus the time to enjoy.

Also I have to look up again there's another RLD outside of AMS that's a day trip and may be less corporate and more value?[/QUOTE]The flights are also surprisingly cheap to Germany at least in the time frame I looked at recently. That is less corporate and better value.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2865626]The flights are also surprisingly cheap to Germany at least in the time frame I looked at recently. That is less corporate and better value.[/QUOTE]Yes, I preferred Frankfurt but AMS dropped to sub $650 where Frankfurt still $1400 for me. Plus I can use my miles for a "free" AMS flight. Frankfurt is definitely on my target but I'm desperate to use Thanksgiving weekend since there's no other cheap favorite route. The window yes were very corporate and cold mostly. I'm more confident for this 3rd visit and I believe the tourists are less than summer, but girls still there.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2865630]Yes, I preferred Frankfurt but AMS dropped to sub $650 where Frankfurt still $1400 for me. Plus I can use my miles for a "free" AMS flight. Frankfurt is definitely on my target but I'm desperate to use Thanksgiving weekend since there's no other cheap favorite route. The window yes were very corporate and cold mostly. I'm more confident for this 3rd visit and I believe the tourists are less than summer, but girls still there.[/QUOTE]Two nights ago I was looking at $525 to Frankfurt for late November.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2865630]Yes, I preferred Frankfurt but AMS dropped to sub $650 where Frankfurt still $1400 for me. Plus I can use my miles for a "free" AMS flight. Frankfurt is definitely on my target but I'm desperate to use Thanksgiving weekend since there's no other cheap favorite route. The window yes were very corporate and cold mostly. I'm more confident for this 3rd visit and I believe the tourists are less than summer, but girls still there.[/QUOTE]You also get to see Santa Claus arrive by boat for Thanksgiving. I'm not joking. He actually does that in Amsterdam. There is a big crowd for that. It is kinda fun. I have gotten a little too old for the mechanical Amsterdam RLD but it used to be fun.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2865728]You also get to see Santa Claus arrive by boat for Thanksgiving. I'm not joking. He actually does that in Amsterdam. There is a big crowd for that. It is kinda fun. I have gotten a little too old for the mechanical Amsterdam RLD but it used to be fun.[/QUOTE]That's a good price for Frankfurt, unfortunately I fly from a hub monopoly. The window girls are like fast food McDonald's, definitely not intimate or best service. But for my high libido & being able to choose live its still serviceable (I hope) for me. Plus the general vibe of AMS I like, chill / space cakes / and potential to visit Antwerp Häag Alkmaar Harlem for a day.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2865728]You also get to see Santa Claus arrive by boat for Thanksgiving. I'm not joking. He actually does that in Amsterdam. There is a big crowd for that. It is kinda fun.[/QUOTE]I suppose you mean Sinterklaas, instead of Santa Claus, but he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2865877]I suppose you mean Sinterklaas, instead of Santa Claus, but he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving.[/QUOTE]I actually do realize he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving but he does arrive by boat near Thanksgiving time in the USA every year in Amsterdam at the Central Station. Is Sinterklass not Santa Class in English? He looks a lot like him. I've seen him a couple of times.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2865945]I actually do realize he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving but he does arrive by boat near Thanksgiving time in the USA every year in Amsterdam at the Central Station. Is Sinterklass not Santa Class in English? He looks a lot like him. I've seen him a couple of times.[/QUOTE]Feel free to disregard my question. I think I understand how my previous statement could have sounded. I like seeing things that are slightly different when traveling and may exaggerate them for my enjoyment of it.

The government of the Netherlands has cancelled the JetBlue plans to go to Amsterdam long term from JFK FYI .

Best Regards.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2865945]I actually do realize he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving but he does arrive by boat near Thanksgiving time in the USA every year in Amsterdam at the Central Station. Is Sinterklass not Santa Class in English? He looks a lot like him. I've seen him a couple of times.[/QUOTE]The name Santa Clause is most likely coming from 'Sinterklaas'.
However, we call Santa Clause 'de kerstman', which literally means the Christmas man.

[URL]https://www.iamsterdam.com/en/whats-on/sinterklaas-v-santa-claus[/URL]

[QUOTE=Smuler;2865962]The government of the Netherlands has cancelled the JetBlue plans to go to Amsterdam long term from JFK FYI .

Best Regards.[/QUOTE]Awful. Delta has a KLM partnership and also flies thru JFK, more competition would have helped the absurd prices. I imagine KLM / Delta partnership encouraged government interference.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2866622]Awful. Delta has a KLM partnership and also flies thru JFK, more competition would have helped the absurd prices. I imagine KLM / Delta partnership encouraged government interference.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with the KLM / Delta partnership. Amsterdam Airport has become too big over the years, and is causing too much noise disturbance and air pollution with its five runways, in a densely populated area. So that's why they have to bring down the number of flight movements from 500.000 to 460.000 a year, starting April 2024. And eventually the government wants to bring it down to 452.500 movements.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2866622]Awful. Delta has a KLM partnership and also flies thru JFK, more competition would have helped the absurd prices. I imagine KLM / Delta partnership encouraged government interference.[/QUOTE]Delta and KLM are losing slots as well. If you think this is bad, go look at what the government is doing to the farmers that raise methane gas producing meat products. The scale has been tipped.

Anyway. A frequent traveler to Amsterdam and first time visitor to Park118. Mind you, I had my bachelor party in Amsterdam 30 years ago and 13 of us raised all kinds of hell in the RLD. Park118 is totally different. If you want to go cheap, negotiate, and "smash" the RLD is for you. Park118 is private. It isn't cheap. It is super clean. The girls may or may not want to spend time with you (especially if you're and ass,) etc. I'the not go to Park 118 for 30 or even 45 min. Go there to have fun, meet someone, laugh, make a connection, fill a bag, and leave wanting to go back. Otherwise the RLD is there and always ready to meet your needs.

Asmara. My map software said it is permanently closed. I was in the area, swung by, and it appears to be locked up. Their website is still active and there is a review as of a couple weeks ago. But, for now, it appears to be closed.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2858673]What!? Are there signs and cops? If I decide to go back to a window I passed, do I have to walk all the way around again?[/QUOTE]That very well may be the case.

Not cops. But there are barricades manned by short tempered stewards.

G.

[URL]https://www.amsterdamhotescort.com/model/ivana/[/URL]

So I booked this girl via WhatsApp. Looking back I should have realised it was going to be awful. Long pauses between WhatsApp messages. Vague answers to my questions about extra services. I was told she would arrive within 30 minutes but she took an hour. When she arrived she was definitely not the girl in the photos. She was pretty all the same but spoke hardly any English. She's Albanian. She asked for €400 to include French kissing and OWO. This was far too much for me so I ended up going with the basic service which consisted for a short half arsed massage then a quick blow job with the condom. Then a load of oil (not lube) and a short full service. Then she jumped up cleared up and practically ran out of the door. All whilst claiming not to have any change so I need up paying €190. I feel totally ripped off. A really terrible experience.

[QUOTE=RebelMc74;2872669]
. . . Then a load of oil (not lube) and a short full service. . . [/QUOTE]You know the oil might cause the condom to break, right? That happened to me once. All of a sudden things felt much better. And warmer and wetter. I realized what had happened. I knew the girl would freak out. But rather than stop immediately I kept fucking for a good minute or two. Only then did I stop, feigning it had just happened.

Making a 1 day return to Amsterdam in March as I connect to Europe. I still enjoy De Wallen for what it is. It's like McDonalds, sometimes you want fast food. The prices aren't great, I never was exposed to the great times before 2016, but for 100-150 E I was able to get full service from a few hot 8-9 Eastern Euro types that I don't see in the southeast US. I land in the morning and will get 2 afternoon sessions in De Wallen, get a space cake, relax and head into Antwerp for their RLD. I hear their prices are 50 E less.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2885579]but for 100-150 E I was able to get full service from a few hot 8-9 Eastern Euro types[/QUOTE]This was at the windows and for what 15-20 minutes BJ and fuck?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2885579]Making a 1 day return to Amsterdam in March as I connect to Europe. I still enjoy De Wallen for what it is. It's like McDonalds, sometimes you want fast food. The prices aren't great, I never was exposed to the great times before 2016, but for 100-150 E I was able to get full service from a few hot 8-9 Eastern Euro types that I don't see in the southeast US. I land in the morning and will get 2 afternoon sessions in De Wallen, get a space cake, relax and head into Antwerp for their RLD. I hear their prices are 50 E less.[/QUOTE]Good thing those woke politicians haven't closed De Wallen.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2888012]This was at the windows and for what 15-20 minutes BJ and fuck?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]15 min was the usual offer. But I always countered with 20 min with BJ & fuck, so I don't know the range of 15 min BJ only. 1 girl was really cold to me (even for De Wallen EE girls), but the rest were either neutral or friendly. Only 3 of them gave me insight of what they liked about our negotiation which in turn got me better service.

1) Hygiene: Dress clean (can be casual) & look clean. My hotel was 3 blocks away so I was always freshly showered with cologne. Smell is a factor in that 5 second impression. They do not like the sloppy drunks or the stereotypes of certain foreigners being smelly (so if you're in that group, do extra well).

2) Exchange: My best negotiations were when I was calm, friendly, and willing to walk away. I never returned to a girl's window after a rejection unless she beckoned to me on a follow up pass (where she'd accept my original offer). Even the hottest girl, I did find 3 or 4 similar girls to substitute.

3) Attraction: EE girls have their bias, I did have 1 girl who wanted nothing to do with me (I didn't realize her turning her back as I walked up was a red flag, and making putrid faces during BJ). I'm a black Yankee, the old ones were a little cold but the younger Instagram types were accepting & some as a pleasant novelty since not as common. A few told me they most like local Dutch, followed by Euros. Least favorite drunk young UK, as well as Middle Eastern ("too aggressive" Indians ("hygiene" Just repeating what was said.

4) Visibility: Because I was there for vacation I took my time, it probably is only 6 minutes to make a full loop when no crowds. Every girl I passed at least 2 or 3 times, & they definitely notice us even across the canal. Acting like you're experienced they'll less likely stiff you on prices. Once you have 1 session, its like throwing chum into the water because now they know you actually spend and not some window gawker. 1 window girl told me my previous window girl texted her "good customer", I had my 2 best sessions with them.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2888744]15 min was the usual offer. But I always countered with 20 min with BJ & fuck, so I don't know the range of 15 min BJ only. 1 girl was really cold to me (even for De Wallen EE girls), but the rest were either neutral or friendly. Only 3 of them gave me insight of what they liked about our negotiation which in turn got me better service.

1) Hygiene: Dress clean (can be casual) & look clean. My hotel was 3 blocks away so I was always freshly showered with cologne. Smell is a factor in that 5 second impression. They do not like the sloppy drunks or the stereotypes of certain foreigners being smelly (so if you're in that group, do extra well).

2) Exchange: My best negotiations were when I was calm, friendly, and willing to walk away. I never returned to a girl's window after a rejection unless she beckoned to me on a follow up pass (where she'd accept my original offer). Even the hottest girl, I did find 3 or 4 similar girls to substitute.

3) Attraction: EE girls have their bias, I did have 1 girl who wanted nothing to do with me (I didn't realize her turning her back as I walked up was a red flag, and making putrid faces during BJ). I'm a black Yankee, the old ones were a little cold but the younger Instagram types were accepting & some as a pleasant novelty since not as common. A few told me they most like local Dutch, followed by Euros. Least favorite drunk young UK, as well as Middle Eastern ("too aggressive" Indians ("hygiene" Just repeating what was said.

4) Visibility: Because I was there for vacation I took my time, it probably is only 6 minutes to make a full loop when no crowds. Every girl I passed at least 2 or 3 times, & they definitely notice us even across the canal. Acting like you're experienced they'll less likely stiff you on prices. Once you have 1 session, its like throwing chum into the water because now they know you actually spend and not some window gawker. 1 window girl told me my previous window girl texted her "good customer", I had my 2 best sessions with them.[/QUOTE]Did any of them say your dick was to big?

Are there any gangbang clubs in Amsterdam, similar to Phoenix Club in London? Any help would be appreciated.

Hey Guys,

I will be travelling to Cupertino / San jose.

Any leads or contacts in cupertino or san jose? My DM is open.

Any guidance is also welcome.

Hi there. Been a while since I was last on here, but looking at visiting Amsterdam and wondering whether anyone had any experience with this agency. Dollhouse. NL.

Seems these days I am more into the experience and not necessarily the price point. Albeit I'll still take a walk round De Wallens.

[QUOTE=LanceALot;2900985]Hi there. Been a while since I was last on here, but looking at visiting Amsterdam and wondering whether anyone had any experience with this agency. Dollhouse. NL.

Seems these days I am more into the experience and not necessarily the price point. Albeit I'll still take a walk round De Wallens.[/QUOTE]Dollhouse doesn't look legit, no license number on the website and the pics are fake.

Had a quick visit to DeWallen. I think if you have a 6 hour layover that's plenty to have a stress free visit. 2 HR before flight check in, and 45 min back and forth for walking / trains.

I had 2 fun romps. 100-150 E for 20 minutes full service, the 2nd girl offered 30 min.

1st girl was a hot sculpted Romanian Turkish girl with some Asian features, polite and fun but would transition back to business quick.

This was a quiet weekday that was cold, around 2 pm.

DeWallen to me is still fun. It's not the cheapest, but has some pretty hot talent at times with such ease of access and safety. The late night crowd of tourists thin out I think after 1 am and most girls are still there. Schipol is a preferred connecting airport too.

Had a quick visit to DeWallen. I think if you have a 6 hour layover that's plenty to have a stress free visit. 2 HR before flight check in, and 45 min back and forth for walking / trains.

I had 2 fun romps. 100-150 E for 20 minutes full service, the 2nd girl offered 30 min.

1st girl was a hot sculpted Romanian Turkish girl with some Asian features, polite and fun but would transition back to business quick.

This was a quiet weekday that was cold, around 2 pm.

DeWallen to me is still fun. It's not the cheapest, but has some pretty hot talent at times with such ease of access and safety. The late night crowd of tourists thin out I think after 1 am and most girls are still there. Schipol is a preferred connecting airport too.

Had a 45 minute session with Sara at Park 118. Obviously this was not the same Sara that was there before as this girl is from Spain and did not live up to the earlier reviews for the original Sara. Anyway, she was pretty ok. Nothing above the basic without an upcharge. She is a full figure girl and probably in her 30's. Cute and has a sparkly attitude. She is a smoker so you had that smell on you. She apparently is a BDSM girl if that's your thing. I probably would not repeat unless I was will to spend about another 150 in upcharges to the original 120.50 extra for DFK, 50 for your lips on her body (anywhere) and 50 for BBBJ. I'll pass.

[URL]https://amsterdamescort.nl/[/URL]

The girls at this site look way too good for the prices. My suspicion is this is a scam. The ladies may consider everything as an extra and the prices are just for her to be present. So, after you pay her, the real price is hundres higher. Anyone have an experience with them? It would be nice if they turn out to be legit.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2910368][URL]https://amsterdamescort.nl/[/URL]

The girls at this site look way too good for the prices. My suspicion is this is a scam. The ladies may consider everything as an extra and the prices are just for her to be present. So, after you pay her, the real price is hundres higher. Anyone have an experience with them? It would be nice if they turn out to be legit.[/QUOTE]It's all fake.

It's a higher price class, but recently I have had great dates using upclassinternational.

What's the best most up to date map the RLDs given how much stuff has closed and continues too?

There seems to be little activity here except for Amsterdam and Rotterdam.

Am looking for recommendations for hotel escorts in Soesterberg (near Utrecht) and The Hague.

Yes, one can order one from anywhere, and the websites are not always honest about where the girls are actually located, but the further away, the higher the cost.

In the old days there were brochures in hotels advertising escort services.

Surely there must be some recommendations about which websites are the best.

[QUOTE=LanceALot;2900985]Hi there. Been a while since I was last on here, but looking at visiting Amsterdam and wondering whether anyone had any experience with this agency. Dollhouse. NL.

Seems these days I am more into the experience and not necessarily the price point. Albeit I'll still take a walk round De Wallens.[/QUOTE]I utilized Dollhouse in 2022. Not a good experience, it was not the girl in the pictures. The girl that arrived wasn't bad looking, but not the same. It was however an upsell at every point, and the girl was so talkatively loud that I just wanted to get her out of my hotel room as quick as possible.

36 years old, American, second time in Amsterdam. Traveling Europe with an older family member, decided to partake of the RLD yesterday evening.

Did a few laps of the RLD and had a few girls banging on their door / waving as I walk by.

First 3 girls I went up to all wanted 300 euro for 1 HR FS. 4th girl said 100 for suck / fuck then once she got me naked tried to claim 100 was only for a handy w a condom and suck / fuck would be 100 more. EACH. I told her to go fuck herself and bailed after 5 min in the room.

This is a far cry from when I was in Amsterdam 15 years ago & going rate for Greek was 50 eur. What's even the point at these rates? Feels like it's only a place to look, but Tijuana is infinitely better value for me. I guess Amsterdam is just a place to look now.

[QUOTE=Gradatgrad;2918169]36 years old, American, second time in Amsterdam. Traveling Europe with an older family member, decided to partake of the RLD yesterday evening.

Did a few laps of the RLD and had a few girls banging on their door / waving as I walk by.

First 3 girls I went up to all wanted 300 euro for 1 HR FS. 4th girl said 100 for suck / fuck then once she got me naked tried to claim 100 was only for a handy w a condom and suck / fuck would be 100 more. EACH. I told her to go fuck herself and bailed after 5 min in the room.

This is a far cry from when I was in Amsterdam 15 years ago & going rate for Greek was 50 eur. What's even the point at these rates? Feels like it's only a place to look, but Tijuana is infinitely better value for me. I guess Amsterdam is just a place to look now.[/QUOTE]It is low as 30 euro in Frankfurt for 20 minutes or whatever. I don't think you should be asking for an hour. I imagine they are just taking their 15 minute rate and multiplying it by 4. Then, they kick you out when you are done, easy money. Maybe you got Amsterdam mixed up with someplace else. I never found them to be very flexible in what they offer or how they offer it especially when there is a language barrier. If someone wants two pops, they can walk out the door and go to another door. Why would someone need an hour? I kinda understand the need but I am saying it isn't readily on offer. Let's say someone is lonely, they aren't really going to address that. In some places, 30 minutes or an hour is part of the offer. When I went to Amsterdam, 20 minutes was what was available.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2918257]It is low as 30 euro in Frankfurt for 20 minutes or whatever. I don't think you should be asking for an hour. I imagine they are just taking their 15 minute rate and multiplying it by 4. Then, they kick you out when you are done, easy money. Maybe you got Amsterdam mixed up with someplace else. I never found them to be very flexible in what they offer or how they offer it especially when there is a language barrier. If someone wants two pops, they can walk out the door and go to another door. Why would someone need an hour? I kinda understand the need but I am saying it isn't readily on offer. Let's say someone is lonely, they aren't really going to address that. In some places, 30 minutes or an hour is part of the offer. When I went to Amsterdam, 20 minutes was what was available.[/QUOTE]Understood. I really just wanted a BJ. One girl told me 100 EUR for 20 min BJ with a condom. Does that sound right?

[QUOTE=Gradatgrad;2918729]Understood. I really just wanted a BJ. One girl told me 100 EUR for 20 min BJ with a condom. Does that sound right?[/QUOTE]Think you will come out better at Private house 118, [URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/prices/[/URL].

Hi guys,

Do you know if there (or anywhere) is something like Red light sex trips videos were? Where normal guy can fuck hooker in front of camera. Thank you if anybody will know something.

So kinky. NL is the most common used.

Sexjobs. NL also works (mostly, sometimes you need VPN with an Dutch endpoint).

Had some of my best hotel escorts with black / Suriname girls from there. But also a share of disappointments.

Just checked the ones I had so far, but none online currently.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;2911768]There seems to be little activity here except for Amsterdam and Rotterdam.

Am looking for recommendations for hotel escorts in Soesterberg (near Utrecht) and The Hague.

Yes, one can order one from anywhere, and the websites are not always honest about where the girls are actually located, but the further away, the higher the cost.

In the old days there were brochures in hotels advertising escort services.

Surely there must be some recommendations about which websites are the best.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gradatgrad;2918169]36 years old, American, second time in Amsterdam. Traveling Europe with an older family member, decided to partake of the RLD yesterday evening.

Did a few laps of the RLD and had a few girls banging on their door / waving as I walk by.

First 3 girls I went up to all wanted 300 euro for 1 HR FS. 4th girl said 100 for suck / fuck then once she got me naked tried to claim 100 was only for a handy w a condom and suck / fuck would be 100 more. EACH. I told her to go fuck herself and bailed after 5 min in the room.

This is a far cry from when I was in Amsterdam 15 years ago & going rate for Greek was 50 eur. What's even the point at these rates? Feels like it's only a place to look, but Tijuana is infinitely better value for me. I guess Amsterdam is just a place to look now.[/QUOTE]Yeah was in Amsterdam RLD. Yeah, agreed. Pre COVID RLD and post COVID RLD just different.

For guys out there. Be extremely clear on what you agree to before going in. I noticed way too many girls offered 100 euros for a session, but were all extremely vague about it, and once you get in basically upsell everything with the 100 being just sole handy.

Just be very clear with them, and even then, some language barriers can still cause issues.

Regardless. Go to Germany. Netherlands really isn't worth it anymore. Was pretty nice spot before COVID I must admit.

[QUOTE=Chamon;2921457]Yeah was in Amsterdam RLD. Yeah, agreed. Pre COVID RLD and post COVID RLD just different.

For guys out there. Be extremely clear on what you agree to before going in. I noticed way too many girls offered 100 euros for a session, but were all extremely vague about it, and once you get in basically upsell everything with the 100 being just sole handy.

Just be very clear with them, and even then, some language barriers can still cause issues.

Regardless. Go to Germany. Netherlands really isn't worth it anymore. Was pretty nice spot before COVID I must admit.[/QUOTE]It's really just the Amsterdam RLD. I had good experiences in the Baekelandplein RLD in Eindhoven earlier this year, as well as at the De Wallen RLD / Laufhaus near Roermond. Also a very enjoyable experience at Saunaclub LE Grand in Zundert. Of course these are out of the way to most travelers, but there's great experiences to be had in the Netherlands if you venture out of the tourist trap in Amsterdam's De Wallen.

[QUOTE=Gradatgrad;2918169]36 years old, American, second time in Amsterdam. Traveling Europe with an older family member, decided to partake of the RLD yesterday evening.

Did a few laps of the RLD and had a few girls banging on their door / waving as I walk by.

First 3 girls I went up to all wanted 300 euro for 1 HR FS. 4th girl said 100 for suck / fuck then once she got me naked tried to claim 100 was only for a handy w a condom and suck / fuck would be 100 more. EACH. I told her to go fuck herself and bailed after 5 min in the room.

This is a far cry from when I was in Amsterdam 15 years ago & going rate for Greek was 50 eur. What's even the point at these rates? Feels like it's only a place to look, but Tijuana is infinitely better value for me. I guess Amsterdam is just a place to look now.[/QUOTE]I'll admit this was more than 20 years ago, but in my first visit people were complaining about RLD prices spiking to 50 EUR after the switch from Marks to Euros. Think the price more or less doubled with that switch. And it was a rip off then being a speed suck and fuck session where they try to get you off and out within 15 min. Now they're asking 100+. That's beyond a ripoff.

[QUOTE=Notyou;2922506]I'll admit this was more than 20 years ago, but in my first visit people were complaining about RLD prices spiking to 50 EUR after the switch from Marks to Euros. Think the price more or less doubled with that switch. And it was a rip off then being a speed suck and fuck session where they try to get you off and out within 15 min. Now they're asking 100+. That's beyond a ripoff.[/QUOTE]First of all it was a switch from Guilders to Euros. Mark was the German currency.
And second, the price did not double. Before the switch the price was 50 Guilders for suck OR fuck, or 100 Guilders for suck AND fuck.
After the switch the price for suck AND fuck became 50 EUR, which was approximately 110 Guilders.
Most girls did not offer a choice between suck OR fuck anymore after the switch. But in fact even before the switch many girls no longer offered this choice anymore.
So this is why many people got the feeling that the price doubled.

Had a really bad experience at Park 118 Saturday evening. Rang the buzzer around 8 pm so it was a really busy time I suppose. Only 2 girls to choose from. I picked the one with the few tattoos, Nikki. Opted for a 1 hour session for 140. As she undressed it was really shocking the amount of sag in her boobs and flab in the belly. I've been with some less than firm ladies, but this was an extreme. Ok, I hadn't cum in a couple days I can over come this, I can block that visual out of my mind. After a rinse in the tub we went to the bed and she immediately laid out her list of extras to include kissing and DATY for an extra amount. No chance at a BBBJ as that is "extremely dangerous". Opted out but was interested in a little massage or some caressing and basic conversation. She basically said no touching with out the extra fee. OK, I guess we'll chat a bit. Asked about life, "no personal questions" She's just staring at me like we're not doing nothing but the suck and fuck and then you go. So obviously I'm not getting an hour of value out of her so I told her we'll go ahead and start. She starts wanking me with her thumb and forefinger making as little physical contact as humanly possible. Took some real major concentration to build a rise out of this, but succeeded enough for her to put a condom on then she started with her lame excuse of a BJ for 2 minutes. Then she gets on her knees to present for doggy style. I say I don't like doggie, she rolls her eyes and positions for lazy doggy, I say that's still doggy. She rolls the eyes again and utters some expletive and says she never does this. WTF? Ok, I can soldier through and start to mount. Then she says "just don't breathe on me. " So that's too much. I can't overcome that one. I say nevermind and get dressed. She says nothing, gets dressed and leads me out. I ask to speak to the madam. I'm more disappointed than pissed and just wanted to express a little honest feedback to the madam. She was busy but made a few seconds for me. I started to tell the story but she had to answer the buzzer again. She came back and gave me 60 eur back, basically just charging the min 30 minute rate.

Honestly, I kept expectations low, that I wasn't expecting a stunner and I wasn't expecting some big erotic event, but as a clean kinda fit guy, I was expecting a little positivity for my money. I little something above what the window girls provide. I had a great experience there some years ago and there's been some decent reviews here lately, so was kind of a bummer.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2923143]First of all it was a switch from Guilders to Euros. Mark was the German currency.
And second, the price did not double. Before the switch the price was 50 Guilders for suck OR fuck, or 100 Guilders for suck AND fuck.
After the switch the price for suck AND fuck became 50 EUR, which was approximately 110 Guilders.
Most girls did not offer a choice between suck OR fuck anymore after the switch. But in fact even before the switch many girls no longer offered this choice anymore.
So this is why many people got the feeling that the price doubled.[/QUOTE]Think I only had one pre-EUR experience there, but I don't recall a shift of the AND vs OR along with the currency change. And it doesn't make logical sense (not that logic plays a role here) whether its Suck and Fuck or Suck or Fuck they're still working a similar amount of time for one cum. I do stand by one observation that the hotness of the girls is dramatically lower than it was at the end of the Guilders era. Yeah you're right is was Guilders in NL.

[QUOTE=Notyou;2924242]Had a really bad experience at Park 118 Saturday evening. Rang the buzzer around 8 pm so it was a really busy time I suppose. Only 2 girls to choose from. I picked the one with the few tattoos, Nikki. Opted for a 1 hour session for 140. As she undressed it was really shocking the amount of sag in her boobs and flab in the belly. I've been with some less than firm ladies, but this was an extreme. Ok, I hadn't cum in a couple days I can over come this, I can block that visual out of my mind. After a rinse in the tub we went to the bed and she immediately laid out her list of extras to include kissing and DATY for an extra amount. No chance at a BBBJ as that is "extremely dangerous". Opted out but was interested in a little massage or some caressing and basic conversation. She basically said no touching with out the extra fee. OK, I guess we'll chat a bit. Asked about life, "no personal questions" She's just staring at me like we're not doing nothing but the suck and fuck and then you go. So obviously I'm not getting an hour of value out of her so I told her we'll go ahead and start. She starts wanking me with her thumb and forefinger making as little physical contact as humanly possible. Took some real major concentration to build a rise out of this, but succeeded enough for her to put a condom on then she started with her lame excuse of a BJ for 2 minutes. Then she gets on her knees to present for doggy style. I say I don't like doggie, she rolls her eyes and positions for lazy doggy, I say that's still doggy. She rolls the eyes again and utters some expletive and says she never does this. WTF? Ok, I can soldier through and start to mount. Then she says "just don't breathe on me. " So that's too much. I can't overcome that one. I say nevermind and get dressed. She says nothing, gets dressed and leads me out. I ask to speak to the madam. I'm more disappointed than pissed and just wanted to express a little honest feedback to the madam. She was busy but made a few seconds for me. I started to tell the story but she had to answer the buzzer again. She came back and gave me 60 eur back, basically just charging the min 30 minute rate.

Honestly, I kept expectations low, that I wasn't expecting a stunner and I wasn't expecting some big erotic event, but as a clean kinda fit guy, I was expecting a little positivity for my money. I little something above what the window girls provide. I had a great experience there some years ago and there's been some decent reviews here lately, so was kind of a bummer.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. I had a wonderful experience there in 2022. I think a major issue is that there are becoming relatively few private houses in Amsterdam, and it being a popular tourist destination that there just isn't enough supply to the demand. Highly encourage to visit spots in other cities in the Netherlands. There is a nice place in Utrecht called La Cloche I enjoyed a few months ago, and then LeGrande in Zundert. Brussels has several lovely erotic massage galleries if you are up for the train ride.

[QUOTE=Notyou;2924242]Had a really bad experience at Park 118 Saturday evening. Rang the buzzer around 8 pm so it was a really busy time I suppose. Only 2 girls to choose from. I picked the one with the few tattoos, Nikki. Opted for a 1 hour session for 140. As she undressed it was really shocking the amount of sag in her boobs and flab in the belly. I've been with some less than firm ladies, but this was an extreme. Ok, I hadn't cum in a couple days I can over come this, I can block that visual out of my mind. After a rinse in the tub we went to the bed and she immediately laid out her list of extras to include kissing and DATY for an extra amount. No chance at a BBBJ as that is "extremely dangerous". Opted out but was interested in a little massage or some caressing and basic conversation. She basically said no touching with out the extra fee. OK, I guess we'll chat a bit. Asked about life, "no personal questions" She's just staring at me like we're not doing nothing but the suck and fuck and then you go. So obviously I'm not getting an hour of value out of her so I told her we'll go ahead and start. She starts wanking me with her thumb and forefinger making as little physical contact as humanly possible. Took some real major concentration to build a rise out of this, but succeeded enough for her to put a condom on then she started with her lame excuse of a BJ for 2 minutes. Then she gets on her knees to present for doggy style. I say I don't like doggie, she rolls her eyes and positions for lazy doggy, I say that's still doggy. She rolls the eyes again and utters some expletive and says she never does this. WTF? Ok, I can soldier through and start to mount. Then she says "just don't breathe on me. " So that's too much. I can't overcome that one. I say nevermind and get dressed. She says nothing, gets dressed and leads me out. I ask to speak to the madam. I'm more disappointed than pissed and just wanted to express a little honest feedback to the madam. She was busy but made a few seconds for me. I started to tell the story but she had to answer the buzzer again. She came back and gave me 60 eur back, basically just charging the min 30 minute rate.

Honestly, I kept expectations low, that I wasn't expecting a stunner and I wasn't expecting some big erotic event, but as a clean kinda fit guy, I was expecting a little positivity for my money. I little something above what the window girls provide. I had a great experience there some years ago and there's been some decent reviews here lately, so was kind of a bummer.[/QUOTE]Some time you have to just walk away, LOL Usually when you pay for the hour service should be good. I have got in the habit of only doing the half hour so if service is bad I can take with out being super pissed. I will be in Amsterdam on the 16 of July looking at window shopping in the smaller districts then to pvt house. I was considering dollhouse but I read they are not legitimate.

[QUOTE=Notyou;2924242]Had a really bad experience at Park 118 Saturday evening.[/QUOTE]This happens with all private houses I know in the Netherlands. Good days alternate with bad days. That's why when I don't know a lady I only book her for half an hour.

I will be visiting Arnhem for 2 days in the coming week.

I could not find any good erotic places to visit. Is there any shops or shoes that I can visit?

Regards.

NBD.

[QUOTE=NeverBackDown;2926096]I will be visiting Arnhem for 2 days in the coming week.
I could not find any good erotic places to visit. Is there any shops or shoes that I can visit?
Regards.
NBD.[/QUOTE]There are about half a dozen naughty Thai massage parlors in and around the Steenstraat, close to Arnhem Velperpoort railway station.
Search for Thai massage Arnhem in Google Maps.
Other than that there is nothing, as far as I know. The red light district has been closed a long time ago already.

[QUOTE=NeverBackDown;2926096]I will be visiting Arnhem for 2 days in the coming week.

I could not find any good erotic places to visit. Is there any shops or shoes that I can visit?

Regards.

NBD.[/QUOTE]There is a private house called Coco Plaza in Duiven, which is next to Arnhem. I never tried it myself, though.

If you don't mind to travel for 15-30 minutes, you can go to Nijmegen or Apeldoorn, where there is more choice and action.

Are there any brothels or places close to the airport that I could pop in for some fun? I have a four hour layover (8 am. Noon) and I'd like to try and have a little fun on my layover.

I will be visiting Amsterdam for the first time in mid-August. It will follow visits to Vienna, Prague, and Berlin, where I expect to find more than adequate female company. Given what I am reading here I don't expect to do anything more than window-shopping in the RLD, and it sounds like the rest of the scene is fairly weak (especially for tourists without local connections). If I do decide to partake, are there any destinations for a day trip with attractive service offerings? I would consider a good RLD where I could see a couple of different girls and enjoy a good meal or a little sight-seeing, or someplace with a club / brothel worth spending some time on more than a quick visit.

I am older, English-speaking (and some Spanish), traveling by train. I already have an Amsterdam hotel, so needs to be a manageable commute. I would certainly be interested in opportunities in Amsterdam, if anyone wants to DM recommendations they don't want to post publicly.

Thanks to all!

[QUOTE=JayWonEm;2927956]If I do decide to partake, are there any destinations for a day trip with attractive service offerings? I would consider a good RLD where I could see a couple of different girls and enjoy a good meal or a little sight-seeing, or someplace with a club / brothel worth spending some time on more than a quick visit.[/QUOTE]I think the RLDs in Alkmaar and The Hague are your best bet. Although IMHO there are no more really good RLDs in the Netherlands.
Just go through the threads Alkmaar and The Hague.

The RLD at the Achterdam in Alkmaar is a (approximately) 40 minutes train ride from Amsterdam Central Station to Alkmaar Station, plus a 15 minute walk or a short bus ride.
The RLD at the Geleenstraat and Hunsestraat in The Hague is a (approximately) 50 minutes train ride from Amsterdam Central Station to The Hague Central Station, plus a 10 minute walk or a short tram ride.
Or alternatively you can travel to The Hague Hollands Spoor Station (The Hague HS), and walk from there. This walk is a bit shorter than from the Central Station.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2928037]I think the RLDs in Alkmaar and The Hague are your best bet. Although IMHO there are no more really good RLDs in the Netherlands.
Just go through the threads Alkmaar and The Hague.

The RLD at the Achterdam in Alkmaar is a (approximately) 40 minutes train ride from Amsterdam Central Station to Alkmaar Station, plus a 15 minute walk or a short bus ride.
The RLD at the Geleenstraat and Hunsestraat in The Hague is a (approximately) 50 minutes train ride from Amsterdam Central Station to The Hague Central Station, plus a 10 minute walk or a short tram ride.
Or alternatively you can travel to The Hague Hollands Spoor Station (The Hague HS), and walk from there. This walk is a bit shorter than from the Central Station.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I will check the Hague thread. Maybe combine it with some touristy stuff or see if I can get someone arrested for crimes against humanity (I have a candidate list).

How big are the other nearby RLDs? I'm surprised it's worth the trip.

Hi fella's.

Just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for ladies at Privhaus 118. I realize that it can be hit and miss there, and the lady I met with a few years ago isn't there anymore. I like them slim.

Also wondering if there were any new venues worth considering? I am personally not into the red light rooms thing. I saw some mention of kinky NL on some of the older posts.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2928409]How big are the other nearby RLDs? I'm surprised it's worth the trip.[/QUOTE]The Achterdam in Alkmaar has approximately 70 windows. It used to be about twice as big, but the authorities have closed a lot of windows.

And the Geleenstraat and Hunsestraat in The Hague have approximately 150 windows.

I will be in AMS for a few days at the end of the month.

Has anyone tried [URL]upclassinternational.com[/URL] or [URL]https://www.escortservice.nl[/URL]. Both have licences, and WHOIS shows that the website has been up for over 10 years, but it is nice to get an experience from people.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;2930210]I will be in AMS for a few days at the end of the month.

Has anyone tried [URL]upclassinternational.com[/URL] or [URL]https://www.escortservice.nl[/URL]. Both have licences, and WHOIS shows that the website has been up for over 10 years, but it is nice to get an experience from people.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Escortservice is not trustworthy. Upclass is.

My day started with €13.75 Uber ride to the ATM walked to the middle redlight district only two girls working the blonde said €100 for 20 minutes I declined. Uber ride to park 118 €14.54 ring the bell twice madam come to the door and point at sign on the door that say open at 11, okay it's 10:49 am she say you welcome to come back but none of the girls have arrived yet. Started a conversation with a taxi driver who just parked he hailed me a taxi, on to the smallest red light district €28.90. Two super old girls in the window I Uber a ride back to the first location €12.09 more girls out two in one window she asked did I want both I said just her she said €100 for 20 minutes I counter a €100 for 30 she replied why 30 I make you cum in 10 I laugh said ok. Staerted with an ok blow job she gets on top and ride it a little, I told her to lay dow she said no doggy, not comfortable legs hitting the rail she said get on the bed doggy that position wasn't good then she said lay down and my soldier died. Uber back to the hotel €12.50. Spent €80 on Uber €100 for about 5 minutes of sex. LOL.

Hi all, this will be my first field report. Due to a flight rescheduling I was going to have 6 hour layover in Amsterdam. After a lot of research I decided this was going to be my first p4 p. So if you're looking for information, this will be a list of things NOT to do.

First strike: while waiting at Schiphol, I was confused by how many people were wearing orange. Once I got to Central it became clear. I was there on King's Day, the biggest holiday of the year in the Netherlands. The place was absolutely packed with out of towners and locals doing their thing. Getting from Schiphol Airport to Amsterdam Central was a dedicated train, 10 EUR return ticket. At Central I thought I needed to buy an OV chipkaart. Don't, unless privacy is really important to you. You can tap on / off with a credit card on any of the trams.

After research on ISG and other forums I had decided the RLD would eat me alive and Park 118 was the best choice. I took the tram to the closest stop. The crowds didn't get smaller. Grimly, I kept walking down the long road to Park 118. The park opposite it was completely full of revellers. Sidewalk full of people selling random shit. I found out later this is a tradition thing for King's Day and they don't actually care about selling stuff. I walked past Park 118 and circled round to a quieter back street. Despondent about how I was going to get in discreetly. Decided to call them, and got an answering machine saying that they were closed that day. FUCK. All that research huh.

Refused to give up and started searching for privehuises again. BB Prive's website confirmed YES, they were open on King's Day. So, another tram, and a long walk. At least the area around this one was a lot quieter. I phoned ahead to confirm, buzzed at the door and was let in almost immediately.

Sat in the room and waited. 1 girl came in, introduced herself and left. Host came in next and explained they only had 3 girls today and the other 2 were busy. Girl was pretty, but she was black and I have never been with a black girl. Had not planned on popping two cherries in one day. Apologetically said I was looking for a. Dutch girl. He said she was Dutch. Said I was hoping for a white girl, asked if the others would be available if I waited a bit. He said maybe 30 minutes. I said that was fine.

About 10 minutes later another girl introduced herself and left. She wasn't as pretty as the first one. Wondering whether I should have gone with the first. Didn't want to waste any more time, agreed to 1 HR for 140 EUR (pricing on the website was accurate). After hearing about the RLD scams, I asked to confirm that this 1 HR meant I could have sex. Host looked at me like I was stupid, and said yes, blowjob and sex.

Girl came back in, I asked what are the dos and donts. Full safety. Not just condom for any penetration, but no kissing. She asked me if I had any issues, I said I might have a problem keeping it up in a condom. Started with some chat and foreplay, pretty nice atmosphere. Moved to CBJ, cowgirl, mish. I must have only been 15 min in and about to nut when I stopped myself, and asked the girl if the session ends if I come? She explained that it does if it's 30 m but because I paid for an hour it's unlimited. By this time I'd already lost my erection. Back to foreplay, but this time I'm already tired and definitely in my own head. I try to mount and get hard just by the movement, but it's no use.

We chat a bit more in between attempts. Finished off with a cuddle. 5/10 would not self sabotage again.

I making my travel plans for next year. March time frame I want to go somewhere I haven't been so Amsterdam came up. The one thing is I was only interested in the RLD for mongering as I fine outcall kinda lame as you can do that anywhere I view it like going to an all inclusive resort you could be anywhere. But it seems the RLD windows all kinda just a big scam so doesn't like the ideal spot to go to. I'd be going for kickboxing so mongering wouldn't be my primary focus if I was to go.

Traveling to Amsterdam end of the month. Will be checking out RLD but also looking to have someone over at my hotel. Any site recommendations I ready kinky was the most commonly used but curious on how accurate the photos are on there.

If there aren't any reliable sites would it be better to find an agency? Any advice would help. Thanks in advance.

Hello,

I am looking for outcall services as well. If you have any contacts / suggestions please DM me.

Happy to exchange few suggestions from Lisbon and Barcelona.

Thanks.

Hello Fellow Mongers.

I have come across these websites providing outcall services. I wonder if anybody had any experience with these options.

Which one of these are trusted and provide genuine services?

[URL]https://www.escort-angels.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://perfectescorts.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.passionescorts.nl/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.highclassescortsamsterdam.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortamsterdam.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://desire-escorts.nl/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2935608]I making my travel plans for next year. March time frame I want to go somewhere I haven't been so Amsterdam came up. The one thing is I was only interested in the RLD for mongering as I fine outcall kinda lame as you can do that anywhere I view it like going to an all inclusive resort you could be anywhere. But it seems the RLD windows all kinda just a big scam so doesn't like the ideal spot to go to. I'd be going for kickboxing so mongering wouldn't be my primary focus if I was to go.[/QUOTE]Go some place else in Europe where they are less of a scam.

Looking to do a three day weekend in Amsterdam. Is it still viable with a good selection to window shop? Prices for 1 hour? Any info appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=MCruddy;2939485]Looking to do a three day weekend in Amsterdam. Is it still viable with a good selection to window shop? Prices for 1 hour? Any info appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes they will always have girls.

I took a brief trip to Amsterdam recently. On a Friday I decided get my feet wet with a visit to Privehuis 118 near Sarphati Park. The entrance is easy enough to find from the street- they have a sign outside. Knock knock and the madame lets me in and gives a kind welcome. 3 girls available, they introduce themselves one by one. One is a bit chubbier than I like, another not really to my tastes, so I choose the third a tall slim bleach-blonde Italian girl- Francesca. Looking now on their website, I would say her pictures are accurate although she struck me as more mid-30's rather than 27. I pay the madame 80 EUR for 30 min and we head upstairs. Francesca has a good bedside manner, we have a friendly chat about the usual. Covered blowjob, then cowgirl, then missionary. Here's what irks me: after I ask her to turn over for doggy and she refuses! In my life I think I have only had one WG do this before, a very inexperienced girl in Thailand. At another point I put my mouth on one of her nipples and she recoiled- not sure if that's an extra I didn't pay for or what. Aside from these complaints I will say she was talented while riding and made all the right moans when fucking. Overall I would give her 7/10 body 4/10 service.

On Friday night I took a walk around de wallen, I think I saw maybe 30-40 girls working in the red light windows. Overall I felt they were on average more attractive then what was offered at Privehuis. Funny enough I saw the woman I was with earlier that day in one of the windows. We shared a knowing smile and I was on my way. I intended to return to de wallen on Sunday, but unfortunately on Saturday I wrote some checks my body couldn't cash so I spent my Sunday eating soup.

Overall Amsterdam didn't really feel like a premier mongering destination (like maybe it used to be) but I sort of expected that. I would monger again here if I happened to be in town, but wouldn't come specifically for mongering.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2885579]but for 100-150 E I was able to get full service from a few hot 8-9 Eastern Euro types that I don't see in the southeast US.[/QUOTE]How did you manage that? Last time I was there, I think it was around USD200 with promises that it was FS, go upstairs, followed by a printed menu and her claiming there's no way she would have ever said that first thing. And I'm a trim, fit well-dressed guy.

[QUOTE=Rousse;2943412]How did you manage that? Last time I was there, I think it was around USD200 with promises that it was FS, go upstairs, followed by a printed menu and her claiming there's no way she would have ever said that first thing. And I'm a trim, fit well-dressed guy.[/QUOTE]My last trip was last April, and during a Tuesday afternoon. Not really busy time, which helps, but far less of the top hottest ones. I don't think I do anything special to get the 150 E S&F for 15-20 min quotes. I'm in shape, always showered before, groomed, boring clean dress, but a plain faced American black guy which the girls tell me at worst I'm neutral to them. I did have 1 girl 2 years ago in my 15 RLD windows experience who was revolted with me (I do not know why), but still serviced at 150 E.

I think what helps is taking my sweet time. Often I'll make 3 complete passes, even in the alleys but I just focus on 1 wall. I felt like 1st encounters my quotes are 20-50 E higher, maybe they realize I'm shopping around. Also if they see you take another girl, the ones who are friends will report to each other if good or bad. So a positive / neutral review can help.

I'm here to share my recent experience at Park118 for those considering a visit.

I called ahead and was told there were 8 options available. Arriving around 5 PM, I rang the bell and was quickly let in. The lady took me to a room, explained the rules, and noted that only cash is accepted, no card payments.

After a few minutes, the models came in one by one to introduce themselves. I was expecting younger options, but only three were available. When I inquired about the 8 options mentioned on the phone, I was told that the others were busy and would be free in 45-60 minutes.

I decided to go with Luna, a new addition to the lineup, for a 30-minute session. She's a tall French girl with long legs and a great ass, small boobs. I paid 80 Euros for 30 minutes and followed her upstairs to a spacious, clean room with mirrors on every wall.

While we undressed, we chatted, and I was expecting a girlfriend experience (GFE) based on my previous travels in Barcelona, Lisbon, and Sri Lanka, where models typically provide a full GFE regardless of the time booked. However, this was my first time in Amsterdam, and I was surprised to learn that foreplay and kisses would cost extra—50 Euros each for those activities.

This was a definite turn-off for me, so I proceeded with the session but didn't feel fully satisfied. Overall, my experience at Park118 didn't meet my expectations, and I'd say Amsterdam may not be the best destination for quality mongering. Just a heads-up for anyone considering a visit.