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[QUOTE=Oz Boy]Hi all,

I am coming Hong Kong soon. I am staying at the panda hotel and metropark at Causeway Bay.

Could you give me some info on where to go and what is the going rate. And info that could help me when I go for action.

Thank you[/QUOTE]I think the places and rates are pretty well covered, you just have to read the reports of distinction.

The options for a foreigner are:

1) Wanchai: most of the places you want are either basement or second floor places of Lockhart and Jaffe Road, between Fenwick Street and the Wanchai MTR station. Google"centamap" to find the roads.

Street level bars, either girlie bars (a rip off) or the ones where the locals and expats hang out. You can tell the difference as the girlie bars will have girls, sometimes old women, out front trying to drag you in. Be assured you will be fiscally abused. In the legit street level bars there are few working Girls, but some, and these can be a good time out with play-for-free if you are skilled.

The Wanchai discos and bands. : Neptune, Fenwick, Amazonia, New Makati, Laguna, Dreams, Galexy, Spicy Fingers, Dusk till Dawn, in decreasing order of available girls. The latter two are more legit, but ok bands and certainly some working girls. Note that many of these places have doormen and a sign saying HKD200 cover. Just walk past like you own the place, if you are western, and not navy, they won't stop you. On the Tsim Tsha Choi side Sticky Fingers, across from the science museum is similar

2) Lan Kwai Fong: two streets of upscale expat bars. Some ok bands. Mostly trainee bankers and lawyers, and girls that want them. Interestingly if you hang out in Neptune a few nights, then go to LKF, you will see some of the same girls exploring like you.

3)141, these are buildings usually full of working girl flats. Tends to be about HKD400 for full service 30-60 minutes. Girls are mostly mainland Chinese, and many quite beautiful. Google: "141 main page" or "161sex". Just go and knock on the door. Most don’t speak English, but are willing. There are places in Causway Bay, near your hotel.

There are other options but it get’s more complicated.

Send me PM if you want more info or to meet when you are here.

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[quote=meguro joe]i would like to hear if anyone has had a useful experience at any of the girlie bars in wan chai. ever one to take up a challenge, one friday afternoon i thought i would try and find out the cheapest i could get some. i ended up paying for a beer and 500 for a quick bj at the back of the bar (don't recall which place, aren't the all the same? ) this was after much annoying negotiation and arm tugging. some of the women are beautiful so maybe the exorbitant bar fine makes sense to some or maybe you have access to a better expense account than i do. i just think with all the other options this should be last on the list.

mj[/quote]if you are talking about the ground level bars on lockhart road, it has been a few years. these places seem to have more uniformly beautiful girls, all early to mid twenties. i believe that the difference between these and the discos or bars with bands is that the girls are employees rather than free lancing tourists or domestics looking for extra money. i believe that the girls are brought in on working visas as "cultural dancers", thought you got to believe that someone in immigration smiles every time he see the term on a visa application.

in fact i lost my "bar girl" virginity to one about 15 years ago. i think it was dragon bar near fenwick. her name was christie and boy what a gfe she was. i was in love. i think it cost me about hkd4, 000 including bar fine and drinks. at the time i was so captivated by this girl i thought it was a bargain. lol of course i know now that for that price i could have flown to manila and had a similar experience lasting month.

when i was last in one of these bars, there were very cute thai or filipino – and some of the bars specialized – girls dancing behind the bar in bikinis. occasionally they will take off their top. they would get you into the bar with a hk$20 beer, usually not good. then the girls would come round. they are quite aggressive about grabbing your crotch and making you feel right at home. i have had them quickly open my pants, asking to see my "little brother".

their business model is to sell drinks, which i think were hk$240 and bar fine, which ranged from hk$2, 000-4, 000. i think there were price lists on the wall, but these are negotiable.

the only angle i have seen is to insist on buying, not the hk$240 drinks, but the discounted $120 drinks. when you ask for this the mamasan will say something like "how do you know, you live in hong kong? " and then get one. be careful that they then don’t up the rate at which they bring the drinks to offset the lower price. buy the drinks very slowley. also be careful to buy for one girl, two if you like, but that you are not being suckered into buy drinks for the group.

my observations:

•all prices are negotiable, but still high

•you can limit your spend by ordering discounted drinks and for just one girl

•you can take the girls out, negotiate discount for bar fine but it will still be much more expensive than a free lancer in neptune

•you can get a pretty good hand job right at the bar if you buy drinks, and you don’t mind others chatting with you while you do.

•often they have a "private room" on site where you can go short time. sometimes this is nothing more than a booth with curtain, or even table surrounded by plants. hj, bj and even boom boom is possible.

one word of caution. a few months back, if i remember correctly, two american business men picked up two filipinas from one of these, and took them back to their hotel for a party. the next day the guys were discovered dead from an overdose. at first the girls were suspect, but in the end they were cleared:

hotel deaths linked to drug mixture

two americans found dead in a luxury wan chai hotel last week had taken a mixture of heroin and cocaine, according to a police source. tests on richard victor, 51, and paul cherry, 45, showed they died after taking the drugs in the form of a mixture commonly known as a "speedball. " the mixture can be lethal. the cocaine acts as a stimulant, but its effects wear off more quickly than those of heroin, which slows the heart down. a delayed "overdose" can be experienced when the cocaine wears off and the full effects of the heroin are felt. no traces of other drugs such as sleeping pills were found. the americans were found dead in their hk$4, 500-a-night room in the grand hyatt hotel last friday. police had earlier suspected they were victims of a robbery that went wrong and that a date-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug had been used. but the source said detectives believe nothing was taken. a 20-year-old filipina, michelle balingit callejas, may now be freed. another woman is still being sought. callejas, taken in by police at a wan chai club, was charged with violating her conditions of stay by moonlighting as a sex worker on monday.

source: the standard (hong kong) / 02 november 2007

but there are still these rumors circulating:

hong kong prostitutes 'drug tourists and rob' male tourists to hong kong are being targeted by sex workers who rob them after lacing their drinks with drugs, police say. forty-four foreign men have reported being robbed this way since 2004, usually in hong kong's red-light wan chai district, police said. however, they said the number may be higher as many incidents go unreported due to embarrassment or because the victims have left hong kong before the crime is noticed. a police spokesman told the sunday morning post that they believed the culprits use "some kind of date-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug". in most cases the victims are approached by sex workers in bars. some claim to remember very little and only notice unexplained cash withdrawals from atms later when they receive bank statements. others awake disorientated in short-stay hotel rooms with valuables and cash missing. in 2003, a senior finnish policeman died of a heart attack in hong kong's island shangri-la hotel after being drugged. the chinese prostitute suspected of giving him the drug was never traced. last year, british airways banned staff from visiting a popular wan chai bar after several crew members were suspected of being given date-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drugs in drinks, claimed the report in the sunday morning post. meanwhile police are continuing to investigate the possible poisoning deaths of two americans at the grand hyatt hotel in the wan chai district over a week ago. (continued)

source: sydney morning herald / 04 november 2007

i think hk is truly one of the safest major cities in the world but still need to be careful. in fact the girls have more to fear from us than the other way around. in march some lunatic pakistani began robbing and killing the 141 girls. he killed three or four, depending on whether one was a copycat, in just the few days before the police got him. (got to hand it to the hk police, they did an amazing job).

anyway, use your [big] head. put your valuables, passport and wallet in the hotel safe. i have never seen the police ask a westerner for their passport, only the tourist asian girls. carry only the money you need for the night, maybe hk$3, 000 for drinks, girl, a bite and short time hotel, maybe one credit card.

my sense is that the girls in these bars are quite safe, as are the filippino, thai and indonesian girls in the discos. perhaps the mainland streetwalkers are a bit more dangerous, and i have seen more of these lately.

boy, did i get off topic. anyway, these bars are not good value but maybe you want a change. i know even some of the hardened long time expats sometimes party in these places. so have fun.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail] In Wanchai I usually use Ming Court or Beverly.

Name: MING COURT HOTEL
Address: Flat A, B & C,2/F, Hong Kong Mansion,137-147 Lockhart Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong
District: Wan Chai District
Type: Tourist Guesthouse
Room: 9
Tel: 2135 8692
Fax: 2866 3963

Ming Court is located on the north side (same and block as Bridge, but towards the eastern end) of Lockhart Road. It is cheap and cheerful. It costs about HKD230/2 hours prime time HKD130/2 hours off peak (afternoons?). I actually know someone who comes in from Shenzhen for R&R on weekends, and he sleeps there over night. I don’t know the rate. The rooms are very small some have well placed mirrors (walls and ceilings). Sometimes hot water, sometimes not. The bathrooms are tiny, with the Asian-style hand shower over the toilet. Always give a single condom (in case you forget). They are pretty strict about time. About 15 minutes before time’s up you will get a call. Then 5 minutes, then when it is up, then about every 2 minutes! This will definitely not impress the girls, but it is functional.

[/QUOTE]

Funny you should mention Ming Court. It also has some long term apartments on the upper floors rented out to Thai girls working places like Neptune's and Fenwick's. I remember a Thai mamasan named Pan who ran a boarding house out of Ming Court. Very nice.

[quote=vice squad]funny you should mention ming court. it also has some long term apartments on the upper floors rented out to thai girls working places like neptune's and fenwick's. i remember a thai mamasan named pan who ran a boarding house out of ming court. very nice.[/quote]yes i belive that there are longer term rooms for the girls above ming court; the girls refer to it as a boarding house. i understand that they put 6-10 girls in a room and pay about hkd50 per night. no guys are allowed up there, so i have never actually seen it.

and more than a couple of times heard stories from the girls how, on their last night or two, someone broke into their locked luggage and stole their hard earned money.

there are lots of these places rep001tered around wanchai. so many of the bar girls do not have to travel far to work.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail]
And more than a couple of times heard stories from the girls how, on their last night or two, someone broke into their locked luggage and stole their hard earned money.[/QUOTE]

This ranks right up there with the dead water buffalo or sick father routine. When these girls get money they are either paying off their agents or sending it back home via western union. This is a very common sob story designed to pull at your heart strings and have you give a wack load of cash to the girl before she gets on the plane.

One of these girls might have a shirt stolen in a boarding house but most of them are very careful with their money.

I moved to Hong Kong a few months ago with my soon to be wife. I've been here before a few times and enjoyed some of the carnal pleasures to be enjoyed but had successfully removed myself from the scene this time, keeping out of temptations way. Yesterday afternoon I dropped the other half off at the airport, and for old times sake decided to visit some of my old haunts more to reminisce than anything else. Also, following 10 years of mongering, I still don't think feel like I have had a drink unless it is in a nice sleazy venue surrounded by ladies who I could have if I so desired. It really does tug at your primal instincts to feel like a male lion sat in the middle of your pride of females deciding who is going to have the pleasure of your attentions this evening. So on the pretence that I needed to watch the rugby anyway I got off the airport express and jumped a cab to Wanchai.

Propped up in Jo Bananas, with a pint of Blackthorn quenching my 7pm thirst, I starting checking out the lay of the land. It’s early, and JBs is virtually empty apart from a skinny black girl with dreds (Columbian I think) who does nothing for me. She sat there not really bothered about the potential trade surrounding her nursing a full glass of red wine that seemed to be the holy grail of wine glasses – the bottomless chalice. No matter how many times she drank the glass remained full. If only the beer pots had the same characteristics, and worked for men and not just brasses.

Leaving JB’s I headed over to Delaney’s for a quick look around. Sitting near to the street, I checked out the street action. Three or four likely girls walking around but minimal eye contact. Then a 9/10 spinner walked past and I downed the drink and high tailed it out of the door to see where she went – there was nothing in Delaneys. But by the time I went out she had gone, and the sight of her 19 year old legs and ass in those tight jeans and shiney dark green top seemed like a mirage. I headed down towards dusk til dawn, stopping in a place on route just before on the left. Still too early, and the only action in there was three fili girls carousing with a couple of young studs. Dusk was empty also so I headed for the Bridge. I love the bridge, sitting by the window looking at the rip off joints across the road with the girls in their skimpies. One glorious moment when one of the manasans came out front to make a blessing and about eight star birds wearing two parts of fuck all came out also burning stuff and having ash thrown on them. Three fili girls were in the bridge. One do-able, and the others would be about 8 pint’s beautiful I guess. Three drinks down, and they were not on the menu.

Time was about 8.30pm, and I walked up and down the street a bit as I like the attentions of girls tying to pull me into clubs but never venture in. Point of interest, on the same side as the Bridge heading toward Causeway there is a short time hotel. Taking the gropes, platitudes and pleading of the stunning girls in my stride I decided to head back to the ferry (I live on an outlaying island). On route though, I wanted to check in with Neptunes or laguna as I had never been there before. Laguna was on the way back so I chose there. 9pm, and the place in rammed with girls. A lot of the girls I had seen walking around earlier were in there, so I grabbed a drink and propped at a table with my mind made up to go back home to sleep with my conscience intact. Then I was approached by Mearna who sat at my elbow. Not the most stunning girl in the world (about a 6). 25yrs, had 2 kids, slim with d cup boobs. Here from Manila for 3 weeks, and was amused at my story about me being a good boy. She had an infectious laugh and made me smile, forgetting everything else for a while. Another drink for me and a tequila for her, and the conversation, lead by me, drifted to making a deal.

“So just suppose..no,.. it’s crazy because I live on XXXX island”
“What’s crazy?”
“Inviting you back – it’s a long way on the ferry and all”.
“I’d go – never been there before”.
“So just out of interest, because I don’t know about these things (being very sincere), what would be an appropriate gift for you for the night?”
“I don’t know – you tell me”
“$50?” – laughter. “Um, heck, one thousand?” English embarrassment here can play a blinder when getting a good deal.
“All night? Sure”

Deal done. In a taxi, wait for the ferry groping and kissing. Onto the ferry, she falls asleep. I let her sleep, and when we finally get back to the flat, we have a drink and start to have a great night. The sex was not mind blowing but it was GFE until we passed unconscious about 3 hours later and she took a great facial for the first load.

She just cooked breakfast now, and left, on her way back to the ferry. Couldn’t risk being seen with her and I feel bad now as the heavens have opened and its raining hard. Such a gent, I know.

So, for what it’s worth, that’s what I did last night, or who. Sat feeling really bad about doing it, and wanted her out but still have a hard on, and wanting some more. But this is why I will give Wanchai a wide berth from now on. It’s just too easy, and when you are there, you might as well accept that you are going to be unfaithful.

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Akka, unbelievably well writen. Please let us have more of this first class entertainment.

Akka, you're human.

[QUOTE=Akka76]. Propped up in Jo Bananas, with a pint of Blackthorn quenching my 7pm thirst, I starting checking out the lay of the land. It’s early, and JBs is virtually empty apart from a skinny black girl with dreds (Columbian I think) who does nothing for me. She sat there not really bothered about the potential trade surrounding her nursing a full glass of red wine that seemed to be the holy grail of wine glasses – the bottomless chalice. No matter how many times she drank the glass remained full. If only the beer pots had the same characteristics, and worked for men and not just brasses.

Leaving JB’s I headed over to Delaney’s for a quick look around. [/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Damnn. I remember my earlier days going to jo banana with friends. And several other bars that I seem to forget. Then all those other places the I frequent in lan kwai fong. Those were the days. With the opening up of China. It is just so much cheaper to monger across the border in Shenzhen. Just a few train stations away. So much cheaper. I like the prc stock better than the pricey ones in hkg. Now I do very little of it Hong Kong. Taipei is just as pricey.

Been RTFF; my summarized take is if you have a short time...go to Macau!

Anybody want to meet next week? PM me.

Nothing unusual to report, so here are some reviews of 37D girls I've seen in the past several weeks:

Fei Fei: good.

Yong Yong: good.

Suet Yee: okay but there are certainly better

Lan Jeen: excellent.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

Hi? bros.

I am going to HK today and I'd like to have some good sessions with chinese girls and I read some good reportso on this forum especially anal taking girls.

Can anyone recommend me where/how I can get anal taking girls with reasonable prices (around 500HK$ ?)

One more, can you recommend any 141 girl who provides good GFE with good sex?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Good N Plenty]Been RTFF; my summarized take is if you have a short time...go to Macau!

Anybody want to meet next week? PM me.[/QUOTE]Maybe, what are your travel dates? I know HK quite well. Macao less so.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000]Hi? bros.

I am going to HK today and I'd like to have some good sessions with chinese girls and I read some good reportso on this forum especially anal taking girls.

Can anyone recommend me where/how I can get anal taking girls with reasonable prices (around 500HK$ ?)

One more, can you recommend any 141 girl who provides good GFE with good sex?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Just go to Mongkok and walk around a bit, perhaps Portland Street or vicinity.

Hi HK specialists,

I have carefully read this forum, but I think I need a little help with all the 141 things.

I will be in HK beginning of August, and I stay in langham place. Now I would like to maybe pre arrange some company for the first night. So I thourt it woult be a good idear to look t xxx141 dot com. But I realy don't know how to chooce the right one.

What is the difference between "phone appoin" and "hotel reservation" dose this means. And as known brothers, what would you recomedn to do to dinde a nice and performing one. And the kast wuestion how can I check on thier services I am looking for "a" service.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Will

A levels?
161 site
CC or Karen in Hankow apts TST
Nga Chi 6 Observatory Rd TST
Otherwise try Mongkok.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000]Hi? bros.

I am going to HK today and I'd like to have some good sessions with chinese girls and I read some good reportso on this forum especially anal taking girls.

Can anyone recommend me where/how I can get anal taking girls with reasonable prices (around 500HK$ ?)

One more, can you recommend any 141 girl who provides good GFE with good sex?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi HK specialists,

I have carefully read this forum, but I think I need a little help with all the 141 things.

I will be in HK beginning of August, and I stay in langham place. Now I would like to maybe pre arrange some company for the first night. So I thourt it woult be a good idear to look t xxx141 dot com. But I realy don't know how to chooce the right one.

What is the difference between "phone appoin" and "hotel reservation" dose this means. And as known brothers, what would you recomedn to do to dinde a nice and performing one. And the kast wuestion how can I check on thier services I am looking for "a" service.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Will[/QUOTE]Hey Will,

I don’t think that the 141 thing will work for what you want. I believe that the "Phone Appointment" means she will come to your hotel, while the "Hotel Reservation" means she has rented a hotel room and you go to her. Generally these are the more special and more expensive 141 girls. Otherwise some of the 141 girls will quote all night for a price, but you won’t really get to know them first to decide if you really want them for the night. Even if their pic is hot, even if they are hot when you meet them, they might not be fun for an extended booking. In my experience 141 girls are generally attractive and if you want to knock on doors you would be willing to do most of them. But only about 25% can give a foreigner a good enough time that you would bother to look for her again, and only a few of those would you want to spend the night with.

If you will be at Langham Place, you will be next to all the short time places at Mongkok. You should look for all the write ups about those places. I guess you could try one and if you liked the girl ask her to meet you again later. It would be a long shot to find one you liked that much the first time.

Better still, take the MTR from Mongkok in the direction of Central. Pass under the Harbor to Admiralty, then change to the blue train, in the direction away from Central, one stop to Wanchai. There take exit C and turn left onto Lockhart Road. If it is early on a week day evening, say 6 or 7, walk 2 long blocks to Fenwick Street (if you want to pass some time, stop in Old China for a beer; sit in table next to the side walk, and watch the girls go by). Turn left and across Fenwick Street in the middle of the block up one flight of stairs is Laguna. By 9pm all of your wishes should be answered. There will be so many girls that you can take your time to find one who is beautiful and fun. Going home do the reverse, or being a gentleman, take your date in a cab. You can walk back down Lockhart, walking this time on the side with the traffic, and you will see back across from the MTR exit C, a queue of Kowloon taxis hoping for someone to take them home to Langham Place.

If it is later, after 10pm, and until the wee hours, look for Neptune II, Amazonia, Joe Bananas, Dusk till Dawn and, if all else fails, Fenwick. Also I think Boracay is open again.

If you happen to be here on a weekend. Laguna is wild all day. Also check out New Makati and Dreams both on Lockhart road itself. Saturday or Sunday morning check out Bar 109 and Bridge, also on Lockhard Road. During the weekend in all these places you will also find lots of not working girls, just wishing for a foreigner boyfriend. Dress neat, be well groomed and smile a lot, you might find more than you were looking for.

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[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi HK specialists,

I have carefully read this forum, but I think I need a little help with all the 141 things.

I will be in HK beginning of August, and I stay in langham place. Now I would like to maybe pre arrange some company for the first night. So I thourt it woult be a good idear to look t xxx141 dot com. But I realy don't know how to chooce the right one.

What is the difference between "phone appoin" and "hotel reservation" dose this means. And as known brothers, what would you recomedn to do to dinde a nice and performing one. And the kast wuestion how can I check on thier services I am looking for "a" service.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Will[/QUOTE]Since you have so much time to prepare, and want to line something up, you could also try the chat rooms. If you go to Yahoo chat you will find under Regional/China the Hong Kong rooms (Discuss issues with potential visitors, residents, and expats).

Hang around there for a few days and you are likely to make lots of friends. Cam with a few until you find ones you like. Then you can simply meet up when you are here.

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi HK specialists,

I have carefully read this forum, but I think I need a little help with all the 141 things.

I will be in HK beginning of August, and I stay in langham place. Now I would like to maybe pre arrange some company for the first night. So I thourt it woult be a good idear to look t xxx141 dot com. But I realy don't know how to chooce the right one.

What is the difference between "phone appoin" and "hotel reservation" dose this means. And as known brothers, what would you recomedn to do to dinde a nice and performing one. And the kast wuestion how can I check on thier services I am looking for "a" service.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Will[/QUOTE]

Assuming you speak Cantonese, you can call and make an appointment at one of the girl's apartment (vast majority will not speak English). The Hotel reservations usually don't book out way ahead, just a few hours maybe (but the handlers may speak broken English). Anyway, my experience was you go to a designated hotel, standard two-three call system (so need a mobile), and leave after the exercise. Some have suggested they may come to your hotel, I did not have that experience. If you can read Chinese characters, their site forum discusses quality of each punter's experiences and rates them.

The girls are fairly transient, and do not often look as good as their webshot, also service and beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, so difficult to give recommendations. Most hobbyists will just walk the halls and knock until you find something. If tired from the trip, avoid peak hours, but otherwise this in itself is kinda exciting. Safe to say there are tons of choices just outside of the Langham place that you should not have any problem. Particularly the faux sauna joints just outside and around that location. Although not the only places, the famous KP and 37D are pretty close. Have a great time.

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]This ranks right up there with the dead water buffalo or sick father routine. When these girls get money they are either paying off their agents or sending it back home via western union. This is a very common sob story designed to pull at your heart strings and have you give a wack load of cash to the girl before she gets on the plane.

One of these girls might have a shirt stolen in a boarding house but most of them are very careful with their money.[/QUOTE]That may be why I have heard the story a few times, but don't worry, I did not donate.

Seriously, I think you underestimate how frought it is for these girl. Yes may send money home regularly but all will keep some spending money for their last day of shopping as well as their recent earnings. But I am reasonably sure that in the two cases I know of where the girls claimed to have lost money, they were in fact robbed by other girls. In one case she was quite certain who had done it. It was another girl, who I also knew, who had done almost no business that week. But before going home she did major pasalubong shop. Wonder where she got the money?

In the third case the girl, who was awsome at pulling drinks and a bit drunk, went into the toilet at Fenwicks but came out without her bag. She claims to have sold 9 drinks so far that night. When I noted that she did not have her bag she ran back. The bag was there, minus the wallet.

And then there is the guy who ran out of the hotel room while the girl was in the shower, without paying. But that is another story.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail]Hey Will,

I don’t think that the 141 thing will work for what you want. I believe that the "Phone Appointment" means she will come to your hotel, while the "Hotel Reservation" means she has rented a hotel room and you go to her. Generally these are the more special and more expensive 141 girls. Otherwise some of the 141 girls will quote all night for a price, but you won’t really get to know them first to decide if you really want them for the night. Even if their pic is hot, even if they are hot when you meet them, they might not be fun for an extended booking. In my experience 141 girls are generally attractive and if you want to knock on doors you would be willing to do most of them. But only about 25% can give a foreigner a good enough time that you would bother to look for her again, and only a few of those would you want to spend the night with.

If you will be at Langham Place, you will be next to all the short time places at Mongkok. You should look for all the write ups about those places. I guess you could try one and if you liked the girl ask her to meet you again later. It would be a long shot to find one you liked that much the first time.

Better still, take the MTR from Mongkok in the direction of Central. Pass under the Harbor to Admiralty, then change to the blue train, in the direction away from Central, one stop to Wanchai. There take exit C and turn left onto Lockhart Road. If it is early on a week day evening, say 6 or 7, walk 2 long blocks to Fenwick Street (if you want to pass some time, stop in Old China for a beer; sit in table next to the side walk, and watch the girls go by). Turn left and across Fenwick Street in the middle of the block up one flight of stairs is Laguna. By 9pm all of your wishes should be answered. There will be so many girls that you can take your time to find one who is beautiful and fun. Going home do the reverse, or being a gentleman, take your date in a cab. You can walk back down Lockhart, walking this time on the side with the traffic, and you will see back across from the MTR exit C, a queue of Kowloon taxis hoping for someone to take them home to Langham Place.

If it is later, after 10pm, and until the wee hours, look for Neptune II, Amazonia, Joe Bananas, Dusk till Dawn and, if all else fails, Fenwick. Also I think Boracay is open again.

If you happen to be here on a weekend. Laguna is wild all day. Also check out New Makati and Dreams both on Lockhart road itself. Saturday or Sunday morning check out Bar 109 and Bridge, also on Lockhard Road. During the weekend in all these places you will also find lots of not working girls, just wishing for a foreigner boyfriend. Dress neat, be well groomed and smile a lot, you might find more than you were looking for.

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Many thanks for this perfect advice, I will do exactly what you told!

This was very helpfull, competent and exactly the ting a newbee needs, not some of the other comments like "just search"

Thanks, for this. I will report when I am back.

And! This are the commeents wich make this forum work, and I think, thanks to you I will now join the forum an supporting member and pay my supportfee.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail]That may be why I have heard the story a few times, but don't worry, I did not donate.

Seriously, I think you underestimate how frought it is for these girl. Yes may send money home regularly but all will keep some spending money for their last day of shopping as well as their recent earnings. But I am reasonably sure that in the two cases I know of where the girls claimed to have lost money, they were in fact robbed by other girls. In one case she was quite certain who had done it. It was another girl, who I also knew, who had done almost no business that week. But before going home she did major pasalubong shop. Wonder where she got the money?

In the third case the girl, who was awsome at pulling drinks and a bit drunk, went into the toilet at Fenwicks but came out without her bag. She claims to have sold 9 drinks so far that night. When I noted that she did not have her bag she ran back. The bag was there, minus the wallet.

And then there is the guy who ran out of the hotel room while the girl was in the shower, without paying. But that is another story.[/QUOTE]And there was another last night. At about 3:30 this morning I was trying to go home after a too-late night in Neptune. I had the maturity finally to walk away from this Filipina cutie, despite her so sweetly rubbing my dick on the dance floor. It was just too late. It was also pouring out and I, along with 10 others, was sheltering under the overhang at the door. Then I noticed the woman next to me was barefoot, soaking wet and looking quite upset. Being naturally curious, and not being smart enough to see I was about to make her problem mine, I asked if she was ok.

She has been in Fenwick – again it is a problem at Fenwick – and had her bag stolen. She had left it under the table when she went to the toilet. When she came back it was gone. In it were her passport, phones and money. She was leaving for Macao in the morning and worse, her HK visa expired today! The [ever so helpful] security guard at Fenwick had suggested that the thief had probably only wanted the money, and so may have discarded the bag somewhere outside. So she was out searching around in the rain all the gutters, bins, alleys she could to try to find it. Of course his telling her this also got her out of Fenwick and out of the his hair.

So I looked at her for a moment. It was 3:30, I was tired, I have enough of my own problems. But she was so kawawa. I could just walk have walked away. It was not my problem so why get involved? I could just get in that cab, go home and never see her again. I don’t know her anyway.

But then I thought, if it happened to me, I would be so grateful for the help of a stranger. She really is in a real mess. I asked if she had money back in her room, which she did. So I did not need to give her a bit for her next meal. Then I asked if she had the key to get into her boarding house. She did not but had the number of one of her flat mates. So I called, hoping to get her into her boarding house so she would not need to sleep on the wet street. But no answer. Then when did her visa expire? TODAY! But it is Saturday. Philippine consulate is certainly closed until Monday. I suggest she go to the police station and report it missing. The report could be helpful explaining to immigration why she overstayed. She says that she can’t go to the police as she will have to tell them she was in Fenwick, and they will know she is a bar girl – like they wouldn’t otherwise.

I then asked for her mobile numbers and started calling. You never know, if it was not sitting somewhere in a bin, or a puddle, or in a too loud bar, or with the thief, maybe someone would pick up? What are the odds? Slim to none? What other option is there? First ring, no answer. Same second, third, sixth. Then on the 7th try the phone answered, but no one spoke and I could just make out a conversation in the background. On the 10th try someone answered. It was a cab driver. He found the phone in his cab, and had the passport too! But he was almost home in the new territories and it was not almost 4 am. After a bit of pleading he agreed to come back to Neptune. I got his cab number and agreed to a meeting time and point. By then I was feeling like my obligation to karma was fulfilled. I turned it over her and headed home. Only cost to me was time, a few phone calls and some creativity.

Epilog: This morning she texted that she met the driver and got her phone and passport. She is angry she lost her money and her good phone, only got the old one back. So the world is not perfect. But she has her passport and whether she realizes it or not replacing the the money is the easy part.

So yes, there are lots of sick moms, sick dads and buffalos. But sometimes they are true and always life at the bottom just sucks.

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[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Dear Brown Rail,

Many thanks for this perfect advice, I will do exactly what you told!

This was very helpfull, competent and exactly the ting a newbee needs, not some of the other comments like "just search"

Thanks, for this. I will report when I am back.

And! This are the commeents wich make this forum work, and I think, thanks to you I will now join the forum an supporting member and pay my supportfee.[/QUOTE]Welcome Will. PM me when you are here if you need more.

Sorry if this is posted in the wrong section.

I have 1 week and counting to my first trip to HK.

I think I am well prepared by reading all the forums.

Just one or two last questions.

I have a thing for Pregnant and/or Lactating ladies.
Does anyone know if it is possible to find this in HK?

Money is no problem. I just dont know if the Asian market offers this as they do in the US or Europe.

Do you guys ask the ladies if you can take photos, or do you just start taking and see if they say no.

I dont speak Chinese, so im not sure about how to ask.

Same goes for greek.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Garyk007]Sorry if this is posted in the wrong section.

I have 1 week and counting to my first trip to HK.

I think I am well prepared by reading all the forums.

Just one or two last questions.

I have a thing for Pregnant and/or Lactating ladies.
Does anyone know if it is possible to find this in HK?

Money is no problem. I just dont know if the Asian market offers this as they do in the US or Europe.

Do you guys ask the ladies if you can take photos, or do you just start taking and see if they say no.

I dont speak Chinese, so im not sure about how to ask.

Same goes for greek.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Never seen pregnant or lactating here in HK Gary, I am not sure how I would even go about looking for it. But let us know what you find.

Hi,

I am not a HK expert but feel I need to contribute about a topic which is often answered but does not match my experience of the last 10-12 visits.

The 141 girls which are advertised as Hotel Reservation means usually a pimp will answer and guide you to the Hotel he has his gem nestled in, as it was many times posted here. However I do not concur with the statement that they do not come to your room. Whenever I was lazy enough I just gave it a try and always found a pimp delivering a girl. And believe me I do not have the patience to call 10-15 numbers....

For that service you have to add a 100 HK extra, which is fine since they in deed use taxis and are fast (usually within 20-30 minutes). The pimp will call your hotel room to confirm you are actually there. My observation is that non-chinese girls (korean,japanese etc.) are usually not delivered, you have to go to their hotel, but most of the Mainland Chinese and HKnese can. I do not care because such foreign beauties usually start from 1300 HK$ which I find pricy and probably get better service in Macau for that money.

I must add that I do not speak any Chinese and usually stay in TST area. At least there it seems to work fine. Had a few cuties between 600-800 (+100)HK$ recently, which is still ok for me as its home delivery. Experience vary from true GFE to quite professional, but I find it not worse than going to the apartments.

So for anyone interested I recommend just pick 4-5 girls and give it a shot. A few do not speak English or do not answer the phone, but within that range there should be at least one available. Well at least that's my experience so far....

happy hunting and hope that helps,

Babaluba

[QUOTE=Brown Rail]So yes, there are lots of sick moms, sick dads and buffalos. But sometimes they are true and always life at the bottom just sucks.[/QUOTE]Very well put and certainly something that a lot of mongerers need to remember. The sex trade is not all stockings and cocktail cigarettes but more often than not, people desperate for money.

Babaluba,

Excellent post and advice about 141 hotel reservation girls.

In anticipation of my first visit to Hong Kong in September, I have been studying the 141 site on a nightly basis for quite a long time.

My conclusions concur with yours:

+TST is the place to shop.
+Hotel reservation girls are the way to go.
+Spend the extra 100 to do the deed in the comfort of your own hotel room.

Question:

Do you or anyone else have any recommendation(s) for conveniently located TST hotel that is a good value for the money?

Had a couple of days layover in Hong Kong, so took the opportunity to sample the bar scene. Even though the experience was mixed, I would still rate it fairly highly and definitely compares very favourably with somewhere like Dubai both in terms of choice, quality and cost. Anyway onto the specifics...

The Bad

On the first night, had a couple of beers at Dusk til Dawn as they had a late happy hour until 10pm. Must have been about 9pm and the place was virtually empty. Suitably refreshed, headed over to Laguna. It was a Sunday and the place was heaving. Had a look round and stayed for a couple of drinks. Ratio of men to women was about 50/50, but all the best looking women were hooked up, so decided to head over to Neptune. It was around 11.30pm and the place was pretty empty. Went to the bar and spotted a cute Thai girl. As the jet lag was starting to kick in, I decided to make a move, rather than do a trawl round the bar, so invited her over. Had a couple of drinks with her and as the chemistry was ok, invited her back. Arranged for LT and after a bit of gentle haggling settled on 1,000 HKD. Got her back to the hotel and had a very average time, which I put down to my jet lag.

Woke up the next morning feeling much perkier and was looking forward to round two, but oh no, she was tired and sleepy and made absolutely no response to my advances. Tried a couple of times but then got fed up and went to have a shower. By the time I was out of the shower, she was already up and half dressed. Wow from "dead to the world" to "up and at 'em" in 5 minutes pretty impressive... I was happy to just leave it and chalk it up to experience (never pay in advance, always wait until the next day) when she stunned me by asking me whether I wanted her number. Shocked I asked her why she thought I would want her number after the night we had, and she seemed genuinely upset and put out that I had rejected her. A stony and embarrassed few minutes followed, which was made worse when we took the lift down to reception only to be joined by an Australian family. Dark looks from the mother, smirks from the father and all the time the neon monger light flashed above my head....

The Good

Came back to Hong Kong the next week after a few days business in China and booked into the Metropark Wan Chai. Nice hotel, reasonably priced and very close to the action. As it was around 11pm when I checked in, dumped my bags and headed across the street to Galaxy (formerly Strawberry I believe). Lasted all of two minutes as it was dead with the kind of women you'd pass on even if offered for free, so decided to try out Fenwicks. Much better, nicely busy without being packed and a much higher calibre of women. Did a couple of trawls of the bar "looking for a friend" to check out the talent, before settling down close to the dancefloor. Failed miserably to avoid catching the eye of a fairly average Filipino, who then proceeded to grind herself against my knee asking me whether I liked it. Err well it's not the worst thing that ever happened to me, but by the same token wasn't really doing very much for me either, so as I was thinking how to extricate myself from the situation, a much cuter Filipino sat down next to me. Ahh salvation... Her first words were "you look cute, i want to get to know you" followed by a slow kiss with just a hint of tongue. Much more like it... What followed was great evening of laughs, DFK's, vodka body shots (or neck shots to be more accurate) and bump and grind on the dancefloor. Well it was great for me, but must have been a little queasy and nauseous for anyone sitting close by, so if anyone reading this was there and witnessed the spectacle, apologies. Naturally took her back to the hotel and had a fun evening and morning. Each time she invited me to finish over face, so like a perfect gentleman (more Wycleaf Jean than Beau Brummel) I happily complied with the ladies request :). Probably the perfect GFE only missing the not turning into a pizza after the event....

Just wanted to add another positive report on 37 Dundas. It's a very clean and professional establishment in my opinion.

Got a lineup of five girls, all of them young and pretty. Don't remember the name of the girl I chose but she was cute, nice, thin and had quite large breasts, what more can you ask for?

Another positive thing for me (I'm sure a lot of you have a different opinion) was that the girl was not shaved, which I prefer. In Europe, it is almost impossible to find a girl who is not completely shaved.

And lastly, you don't really need to shower before you go there. You will be very thoroughly cleaned before and after, I promise.

[QUOTE=Filur]Just wanted to add another positive report on 37 Dundas. It's a very clean and professional establishment in my opinion.

...

Another positive thing for me (I'm sure a lot of you have a different opinion) was that the girl was not shaved, which I prefer. In Europe, it is almost impossible to find a girl who is not completely shaved.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more. I can't stand shaved. Give me natural any day! Trimmed is okay though, last girl I had there said it was too much if she didn't trim it. 37D is a little piece of heaven.

[QUOTE=Babaluba]Hi,

I am not a HK expert but feel I need to contribute about a topic which is often answered but does not match my experience of the last 10-12 visits.

The 141 girls which are advertised as Hotel Reservation means usually a pimp will answer and guide you to the Hotel he has his gem nestled in, as it was many times posted here. However I do not concur with the statement that they do not come to your room. Whenever I was lazy enough I just gave it a try and always found a pimp delivering a girl. And believe me I do not have the patience to call 10-15 numbers....

For that service you have to add a 100 HK extra, which is fine since they in deed use taxis and are fast (usually within 20-30 minutes). The pimp will call your hotel room to confirm you are actually there. My observation is that non-chinese girls (korean,japanese etc.) are usually not delivered, you have to go to their hotel, but most of the Mainland Chinese and HKnese can. I do not care because such foreign beauties usually start from 1300 HK$ which I find pricy and probably get better service in Macau for that money.

I must add that I do not speak any Chinese and usually stay in TST area. At least there it seems to work fine. Had a few cuties between 600-800 (+100)HK$ recently, which is still ok for me as its home delivery. Experience vary from true GFE to quite professional, but I find it not worse than going to the apartments.

So for anyone interested I recommend just pick 4-5 girls and give it a shot. A few do not speak English or do not answer the phone, but within that range there should be at least one available. Well at least that's my experience so far....

happy hunting and hope that helps,

Babaluba[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report.

I have been looking at 141 for some time.

Are the girls in the photos the actual girls that show up?

Are the photos real of these hot young girls?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bill1963]
I have been looking at 141 for some time.
Are the girls in the photos the actual girls that show up?
[/QUOTE]

WYSISWG - but keep in mind the photos have been 'touched up'

Yes, my experience has been that these pictures on the 141/161 sites are the actual girls. Keep in mind that the photographer is rather good (and where do I apply for that job? ). If you are talking about going to the "one woman brothels", rather than the hotel route, it almost does not make a difference about the picture as you will check them out anyway. If you don’t like one, knock on the next door. Pick a 141 building that has lots of girls, not one that has just a few. That way you have flexibility and fall back if the one you wanted is busy.

You can print out an girl’s Web page to bring with you, it might even help negotiate price as you can always point to the price on the page. In some of the 141 buildings I have seen the girls tape their Web page to the door, helping you to know before you knock. But it might be better to just wing it. I find that if I bring a list, many girls are not there on that day, or are occupied. If I just wing it there are so many available you don’t notice. I think you can also access a WAP version of the 141 site from your smart phone, so you can view on the fly. But I will bet after a few minutes you will not bother with the phone and just knock on doors.

I do recommend you give 141 girls a shot. Just the experience gives a bit of a thrill. Watch for a few minutes how the locals do it. They knock, the door opens, they mumble something and move on. The girl closes the door. It is just business and no one seems irritated if a deal is not done. When he sees what he likes they both smile and he goes in.

So then you have to just do it yourself. Many girls don’t speak English, but will smile and invite you in, though a few will wave you off. Perhaps those don’t do foreigners; perhaps they don’t want the effort involved with sign language. Look for ones that have their names in English on the door.

It is a pretty cool experience all in all. Many are quite beautiful. She opens the door. Standing there in only her underwear. You think I could have her for HK$250, 300 or 400. Should I? What the hell. .

I find that the most difficult experiences are with the ones who don’t speak English but still smile and invite you in. Occasionally you get hung up negotiating the price, once the door is closed she will ask for a high price and won’t agree to lower it, but still won’t let you go. Maybe she is asking HK$500 or more, but you know the locals pay HK$300 or 400. Now the door is locked and when you try to open it she pulls you back. And look at those eyes! I have in the past stood my ground and always, eventually, gotten my price. But boy Chinese women can be tenacious. Perhaps it is better to negotiate the price while you are still standing in the hall.

The hard part is not jumping for the first one but enjoying the process a bit. It happens occasionally, especially when it is quiet, that as you wonder around checking out their doors that one will just happen open up and invite you in (note that there are video cameras everywhere and each girl has a monitor in her room – so they see you coming). I think there is an unwritten agreement among the girls not to open the door unless you knock. Not sure if it is a legal thing or they just think doing so encourages too much competition. I think the latter, and that when they do this the other girls get angry (and would I like a ticket to that cat fight). I guess it would be more sleazy if they all were just hanging out at the door, like Amsterdam. But it would make it easier. I still find knocking on the door a bit awkward myself. If when she opens the door you don’t like her you feel badly rejecting her. Then if you like her a bit, you wonder should I take her or go for what’s behind door number 3? If you move on, but then later you decided she was the one, some local has then got her (and worse you can hear her screaming behind the door – for sure she is faking right? He was such a looser. Boy she was hot! )

These girls are available mostly afternoons and evenings. They usually come in between lunch time and 3pm, staying until 11 or 12 pm. A few though live in the rooms and are there all the time. Best time to go is late afternoon when lots are there and not too many guys. But don’t expect to find good ones at 1am. If you are ambitious, you can organize your day to do one or two 141 girls in the afternoon and then go to Wanchai in the evening for longer term, and English speaking, "company" and an overnight.

141 should be part of every monger’s round the clock HK experience. There are lots of really good looking woman. Some speak English, and all those l like and maybe prefer foreigners. Many do not, but lots of them still like foreigners too. Long black hair. Perfect skin. Beautiful breasts. And for the most part with soft fur! I love that.

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Update on 47 Dundas. It seems to be a bit of hit or miss with that place.

Went there another time and now there was a lineup of four girls, all below average so I sent them back. Another girl was brought in that was OK, but just barely OK.

I guess it depends on what time you get there and if you're lucky or not. Still a good place though.

Gents I need you advice

I'm looking to go to HK in the last week of August and want to spend my nights mongering at neptunes etc.

My question is will there still be a good number of girls available or will there be little choice due to visa restrictions with the Beijing olympics and hence less girls allowed to come to HK?

Any ideas/help much appreciated

You don't need a visa to come from Thailand or Philipines to HK its just that the stay is much shorter 14 days for Fillipino girls at the moment but I am sure they still do the Macau visa run. Ha ha

SO there should be more as they can't enter China mainland. Happy mongering

Wizard

[QUOTE=Jiggy]Gents I need you advice

I'm looking to go to HK in the last week of August and want to spend my nights mongering at neptunes etc.

My question is will there still be a good number of girls available or will there be little choice due to visa restrictions with the Beijing olympics and hence less girls allowed to come to HK?

Any ideas/help much appreciated[/QUOTE]Still as many as ever. Not sure why, for the reasons you quoted. Dispite the difficulty the Filipinas keep coming. They just use Macao instead of Shenzhen to reload their visa.

Come on in, the water is fine.

Hi! Guys,

Couple of questions on 37 Dundas.

Reaching there - I get down and Mong Kok Station and walk down to Dundas Street?

Rate - I believe it is 390$ + 100$ = 490$ for 45 minutes. This is for 1 shot or Multiple shot is allowed?

Can I select more than 1 girl and take them together?

Look forward to reply.

Purple

There will still be plenty of girls but not as many as normal. It has been much quieter than normal these last few months. HK immigration has been stricter this year, most notably the past quarter. The Macau visa run is not quite as simple as the China run used to be, and I am sure will be again when things get back to normal in October.

[QUOTE=Jiggy]Gents I need you advice

I'm looking to go to HK in the last week of August and want to spend my nights mongering at neptunes etc.

My question is will there still be a good number of girls available or will there be little choice due to visa restrictions with the Beijing olympics and hence less girls allowed to come to HK?

Any ideas/help much appreciated[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jiggy]Gents I need you advice

I'm looking to go to HK in the last week of August and want to spend my nights mongering at neptunes etc.

My question is will there still be a good number of girls available or will there be little choice due to visa restrictions with the Beijing olympics and hence less girls allowed to come to HK?

Any ideas/help much appreciated[/QUOTE]

I would add some local HK news, that the boneheaded HK government announced last week that, for contracts for maids ("domestic helpers") signed from 1 September 2008, the 9,600 HKD levy that has been charged to employers for the past five or six years, would be waived for two years. The result: HK employers about to sign contracts prior to September 1 have now backed off signing them; maids have been sacked (the employers plan to hire a new maid after 1 Septmeber, when they don't have to pay the levy); and Indonesia has now stopped sending maids to HK until further notice, and its expected the Philippines will follow.

Yesterday, realizing the chaos they created by failing to think ahead in even the most basic manner, the government hurriedly announced that the levy roll-back will take effect from 1 August instead of 1 September.

What does this mean for us? as Martin Luther used to say...

Well, it means there are a lot of out-of-work Filipinas and Indos around HK right now, desperate for money and a little sympathy. I would think it is becoming a buyers' market, and will probably stay this way through the Olympics.

[QUOTE=MegaPoint]I would add some local HK news, that the boneheaded HK government announced last week that, for contracts for maids ("domestic helpers") signed from 1 September 2008, the 9,600 HKD levy that has been charged to employers for the past five or six years, would be waived for two years. The result: HK employers about to sign contracts prior to September 1 have now backed off signing them; maids have been sacked (the employers plan to hire a new maid after 1 Septmeber, when they don't have to pay the levy); and Indonesia has now stopped sending maids to HK until further notice, and its expected the Philippines will follow.

Yesterday, realizing the chaos they created by failing to think ahead in even the most basic manner, the government hurriedly announced that the levy roll-back will take effect from 1 August instead of 1 September.

What does this mean for us? as Martin Luther used to say...

Well, it means there are a lot of out-of-work Filipinas and Indos around HK right now, desperate for money and a little sympathy. I would think it is becoming a buyers' market, and will probably stay this way through the Olympics.[/QUOTE]Well, yet another example for having to hit a wall before realizing that there is an obstacle.

I modify a word that I read in another thread yesterday: God gave men a head and a dick and in some cases enough blood to operate one at a time.
The outcome is not always bad for everyone, as we see.

After RTFF, I decided that my first taste of Hong Kong would be using the services of ******.com simply because it was cheap and convenient. Seriously, I had asked a cab driver about sex in the city and he started giving me quotes of HK$900 and up. When I saw the prices listed on 141, it became a no brainer. (Aside: To whomever invented this website, you deserve a nobel prize! ) It only took me (first timer) a few minutes to figure out the site and how it was organized. I figured out that I was staying in the Sai Wan area and so clicked on that link to find a list of all the available girls near me. Not only is it organized by area, but also you can see a listing of all the available girls in the same building. If you strike out with one, just move on to the next. It's like being presented with a sex menu (which actually happened to me in London, but that's another story). Brilliant.

It was difficult to narrow the menu on 141 to a couple of choices so I decided to do it based on geography. With the help of Google Maps, I found the girls closest to my hotel and knew exactly where to find them. I even got a local map from the hotel staff and used it to mark the locations for all my choices. I ended up with a list of 5 girls all within a 5 minute walk from my hotel.

After trying the first on my list, I found that no one was home. In fact, when I arrived, there was another guy just leaving also having struck out. So, I head back downstairs (seems they're all on 2nd or 3rd floors) and proceed to the second on my list. Turns out I was unknowingly following this other guy (I guess he had a similar list). Luckily he didn't proceed to my second choice and went on to another location.

Jing Jing was my second stop. She's located at 22 Western, 1st floor (I. E. , one flight up) in unit #22. You can't miss it as it says ****** right on the door (clever). I rang the bell, admittedly apprehensive about my first P4P experience in HK, when Jing Jing opened the door. All my anxiety went out the window. She answered the door with a huge smile and in a skimpy bathing suit which matched the woman in the photo. True the photos are a bit doctored, but in Jing Jing's case it wasn't that far off. I think the only thing different is that in the photo she had straight hair but in person her hair was curly and a bit darker. Unfortunately, she spoke not one word of English. OK, no problem. How hard can it be to negotiate for sex?

Turns out no negotiation was required. When she saw me she hardly gave me a choice and gently pulled me into the room. An A for enthusiasm. She started speaking in Chinese and of course I didn't understand a word. I held up two fingers and said "Nei how" and "shi shi" to let he know that my only two phrases in Chinese that I knew were "hello" and "thank you". She laughed and understood. Of course that didn't stop her from going on and on and talking my ear off.

She locked the door behind us and pointed to the shower. I didn't quite get what she meant but she also saw this and started to undress me. We took a shower together and it was nice to let her soap me up and give me a good scrub and I returned the favor. I had been to a few places that does table showers back in the states but usually it's just them washing you (kind of like a baby in a basinet). Afterwards we dried each other off and made our way to the bedroom.

She has these amazing natural breasts. Firm with large nipples that you could suck on for days. She kept patting my big belly (I'm a large guy) which if I were in the States might have been offended but with her it seemed like she was just being playful (I guess she doesn't get many large guys crossing her doorway). We played a bit until I was hard and then she started with a CBJ. She had a nice warm mouth and was obviously an expert. In fact, I was enjoying it so much that I was a bit disappointed when she moved to mount me cowgirl style. Of course, I quickly recovered and got into the groove. We were grinding away for a few minutes when she wanted to switch positions but I told her no (I prefer cowgirl) so we continued for another couple of minutes when she went back to a CBJ after replacing the condom with another. She started also to get more creative in trying to stimulate me to getting off. She started playing with my balls and tweaking my nipples. All nice but it was the anal play that finally got me off. When we finished we headed back into the shower to clean up.

All in all, a conventional session but one I thoroughly enjoyed. There has always been something special for me about sex in foreign places, which of course adds to the stimulation. Too bad this was my first and only HK experience as I head out in the morning. After toweling off and getting dressed, I dipped into my wallet and gave her the HK$380 (about US$50) exactly as was listed in her add. Up until then she never once mentioned money (or if she had, it would have been in Chinese and I didn't understand). She took the money, counted it, and gave me a big hug and a smile and I took my leave of her.

Age - Late 20s
Body - Thin but voluptuous
Height - 5'5"
Looks - Pretty face, smooth skin, lovely smile
Enthusiasm - High (but very talkative)
Pussy - Lots of hair
Breasts - Firm C-cup (felt natural)
Ass - Firm and round
No kissing
My satisfaction - 8/10

Personally, I've RTFF but don't see any reason to try anything but 141. Maybe my first experience went better than people are used to experiencing, but if it's always like this then I see no reason to try anything different (unless I've run through all the girls on the site! ). And for a westerner, you cannot beat this price. US$50 would hardly get you felt up back home let alone FS (unless you're willing to take on a crackhead junkie).

[QUOTE=Hornytoad]After RTFF, I decided that my first taste of Hong Kong would be using the services of ******.com simply because it was cheap and convenient. Seriously, I had asked a cab driver about sex in the city and he

Personally, I've RTFF but don't see any reason to try anything but 141. Maybe my first experience went better than people are used to experiencing, but if it's always like this then I see no reason to try anything different (unless I've run through all the girls on the site! ). And for a westerner, you cannot beat this price. US$50 would hardly get you felt up back home let alone FS (unless you're willing to take on a crackhead junkie).[/QUOTE]Good job Horny.

This is a very good report by the new guy.

Horny, you RTTF and done your home work.

I wish more member are like you.

Now you have try HK.

Your next adventure should be mainland China.

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Hornytoad]After RTFF, I decided that my first taste of Hong Kong would be using the services of ******.com simply because it was cheap and convenient. Seriously, I had asked a cab driver about sex in the city and he started giving me quotes of HK$900 and up. When I saw the prices listed on 141, it became a no brainer. (Aside: To whomever invented this website, you deserve a nobel prize! ) It only took me (first timer) a few minutes to figure out the site and how it was organized. I figured out that I was staying in the Sai Wan area and so clicked on that link to find a list of all the available girls near me. Not only is it organized by area, but also you can see a listing of all the available girls in the same building. If you strike out with one, just move on to the next. It's like being presented with a sex menu (which actually happened to me in London, but that's another story). Brilliant.

It was difficult to narrow the menu on 141 to a couple of choices so I decided to do it based on geography. With the help of Google Maps, I found the girls closest to my hotel and knew exactly where to find them. I even got a local map from the hotel staff and used it to mark the locations for all my choices. I ended up with a list of 5 girls all within a 5 minute walk from my hotel.

After trying the first on my list, I found that no one was home. In fact, when I arrived, there was another guy just leaving also having struck out. So, I head back downstairs (seems they're all on 2nd or 3rd floors) and proceed to the second on my list. Turns out I was unknowingly following this other guy (I guess he had a similar list). Luckily he didn't proceed to my second choice and went on to another location.

Jing Jing was my second stop. She's located at 22 Western, 1st floor (I. E. , one flight up) in unit #22. You can't miss it as it says ****** right on the door (clever). I rang the bell, admittedly apprehensive about my first P4P experience in HK, when Jing Jing opened the door. All my anxiety went out the window. She answered the door with a huge smile and in a skimpy bathing suit which matched the woman in the photo. True the photos are a bit doctored, but in Jing Jing's case it wasn't that far off. I think the only thing different is that in the photo she had straight hair but in person her hair was curly and a bit darker. Unfortunately, she spoke not one word of English. OK, no problem. How hard can it be to negotiate for sex?

Turns out no negotiation was required. When she saw me she hardly gave me a choice and gently pulled me into the room. An A for enthusiasm. She started speaking in Chinese and of course I didn't understand a word. I held up two fingers and said "Nei how" and "shi shi" to let he know that my only two phrases in Chinese that I knew were "hello" and "thank you". She laughed and understood. Of course that didn't stop her from going on and on and talking my ear off.

She locked the door behind us and pointed to the shower. I didn't quite get what she meant but she also saw this and started to undress me. We took a shower together and it was nice to let her soap me up and give me a good scrub and I returned the favor. I had been to a few places that does table showers back in the states but usually it's just them washing you (kind of like a baby in a basinet). Afterwards we dried each other off and made our way to the bedroom.

She has these amazing natural breasts. Firm with large nipples that you could suck on for days. She kept patting my big belly (I'm a large guy) which if I were in the States might have been offended but with her it seemed like she was just being playful (I guess she doesn't get many large guys crossing her doorway). We played a bit until I was hard and then she started with a CBJ. She had a nice warm mouth and was obviously an expert. In fact, I was enjoying it so much that I was a bit disappointed when she moved to mount me cowgirl style. Of course, I quickly recovered and got into the groove. We were grinding away for a few minutes when she wanted to switch positions but I told her no (I prefer cowgirl) so we continued for another couple of minutes when she went back to a CBJ after replacing the condom with another. She started also to get more creative in trying to stimulate me to getting off. She started playing with my balls and tweaking my nipples. All nice but it was the anal play that finally got me off. When we finished we headed back into the shower to clean up.

All in all, a conventional session but one I thoroughly enjoyed. There has always been something special for me about sex in foreign places, which of course adds to the stimulation. Too bad this was my first and only HK experience as I head out in the morning. After toweling off and getting dressed, I dipped into my wallet and gave her the HK$380 (about US$50) exactly as was listed in her add. Up until then she never once mentioned money (or if she had, it would have been in Chinese and I didn't understand). She took the money, counted it, and gave me a big hug and a smile and I took my leave of her.

Age - Late 20s
Body - Thin but voluptuous
Height - 5'5"
Looks - Pretty face, smooth skin, lovely smile
Enthusiasm - High (but very talkative)
Pussy - Lots of hair
Breasts - Firm C-cup (felt natural)
Ass - Firm and round
No kissing
My satisfaction - 8/10

Personally, I've RTFF but don't see any reason to try anything but 141. Maybe my first experience went better than people are used to experiencing, but if it's always like this then I see no reason to try anything different (unless I've run through all the girls on the site! ). And for a westerner, you cannot beat this price. US$50 would hardly get you felt up back home let alone FS (unless you're willing to take on a crackhead junkie).[/QUOTE]It just show that by RTFF can get most first timers an enjoyable new experience in Hong Kong. If you come back this way, would be good if you can do more posting here.

Was yesterday for a meeting overnight in Hong Kong. Stayed at Langham Place, Mongkok.

My first idea was to visit a sauna, but I decided to look for a place described by Ragnarok42 last year (close to KFC). After 15 mins searching I was too tired to find it and so I went to 37 Dundas. Of course this isn't anything new, but during the last 2 years 37 Dundas was always fine with me.

Nothing new to report, standard procedure. I choosed a Chinese girl. She told me she is 23yo, her name is Ling and she comes from Gansu.
We had a good session, nothing special, professional and friendly service. I was happy after that.

I will come back to HK next monday and will try the Macau sauna trip.

Whomer

[QUOTE=Hornytoad]Personally, I've RTFF but don't see any reason to try anything but 141. Maybe my first experience went better than people are used to experiencing, but if it's always like this then I see no reason to try anything different (unless I've run through all the girls on the site! ). And for a westerner, you cannot beat this price. US$50 would hardly get you felt up back home let alone FS (unless you're willing to take on a crackhead junkie).[/QUOTE]


Glad you had a good time but if you thought a girl in Sai Wan was amazing, boy your head would pop off if you knew what was really out there. 141 girls in the Sai Wan/Sheung Wan area have the correct reputation of girls who are over the hill and can't compete against the new crops. They tend to be long time residents (usually previously married to a punter) and work in the same flat for yrs and yrs since they have permanent residence cards.


If you RTFF how come you didn't make a fly by Wan Chai? A woman like JingJing wouldn't even create a glance by men there since there is so much top tottie.

Here's the situation: I was in Hong Kong a couple of weeks ago, but I was trapped, staying with relatives in an apartment on Ashley Street (just behind the YMCA in TST). While I had opportunities to go out for a few minutes to run short errands, it was obvious that I would never be able to get away for a long-enough period to visit 37 Dundas or someplace similar.

So, late one evening I went surfing on the 141 site and found that two girls were working in side-by-side rooms on the 6th floor of Hankow Apartments, a building located one short block over from Ashley Street. Better yet, that apartment building is where my laundry shop is located.

So, it turned out to be easy. The next morning at 9 a.m., I told my relatives that I was going out to drop off some dirty laundry and pick up some coffee. Walked one block over, dropped off my dirty clothes at the laundry and took the elevator up to the 6th floor. The door for Flat D-1 did not have a sign on it, but the door on Flat D-2 did, so I knocked on that door, that girl answered the door looking as if she had just woken up, and let me in.

Her name was Diana, mid-20s in age, from PRC, cute face, oversized tits but also 15 kilos overweight, spoke some English. I told her that I was in a hurry and just wanted a BJ, she said fine. I dropped my pants, laid down on her bed, and she went to work, giving me an excellent BBBJTCIM in 5 minutes, then cleaned me off.

Looked in my wallet and saw that I only had 500 HK dollar notes, and I knew that her price for a BJ was only 250. Not to worry, she took the 500 note, opened a drawer and pulled out 250 in change. Out the door I went, and I was back on the street within 10 minutes of dropping off my laundry.

P.S. Just looked at the 141 site and Diana is no longer listed there. However, I then found that she is listed on the 161 site as "on leave" presumably that means that she's having her period and will be back to work soon.

More interesting is that the 161 site lists 3 girls working side-by-side on the 6th floor of Hankow Apartments, including one girl named "CC" in Flat D-4, who will do "combo + anal sex" for only 320 HK dollars. "CC" is 29 but appears to have a much nicer and more slender body than Diana. Might be worth checking out?

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]If you RTFF how come you didn't make a fly by Wan Chai? A woman like JingJing wouldn't even create a glance by men there since there is so much top tottie.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I was just getting to know the Hong Kong area and didn't feel like a major adventure and the price was right. I figured I would try out the 141 reference by finding a girl close to the hotel and if I didn't like it then I would have only lost 380 HK$. No big loss. Jing Jing's place was only a 5 minute walk from the hotel. But I found I loved it. Next time I'm in HK, I'll be better organized and will be more adventurous. Gotta take those little steps before being able to run.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Your next adventure should be mainland China. [/QUOTE]Actually, the day after my 141 experience, I picked up my VISA and went over to Zhuhai. Unfortunately it was just for a business meeting there and I was heading back to HK the same day. However, it looks to be interesting. I had asked one of my colleagues there what a KTV was (I already knew but I was looking for info on the scene in ZH). Well, that opened up a whole bunch of stories. I'll see if I can get my company to send me back out and this time I'll plan to spend a few days in ZH and do some exploring. I doubt I'll have a chance to go anywhere else in China (at least not with my company paying the bill).

I wonder if I can put P4P as a reason for the VISA application

HT

[QUOTE=Purple 2006]Hi! Guys,

Couple of questions on 37 Dundas.

Reaching there - I get down and Mong Kok Station and walk down to Dundas Street?

Rate - I believe it is 390$ + 100$ = 490$ for 45 minutes. This is for 1 shot or Multiple shot is allowed?

Can I select more than 1 girl and take them together?

Look forward to reply.

Purple[/QUOTE]Been a few times recently (2/F). It's always been HK$380 + HK$100 for one hr.

Host always asks if I want two girls. Never did it though, and I don't recall the exact asking price. Not too bad though, maybe HK$600.

Can do multiple shots, and can pay for extra time of you want.

[QUOTE=Hornytoad]...I wonder if I can put P4P as a reason for the VISA application

HT[/QUOTE]If you seriously don't want to get the visa, pleasse try and let us know.

[QUOTE=Hornytoad]Actually, the day after my 141 experience, I picked up my VISA and went over to Zhuhai. Unfortunately it was just for a business meeting there and I was heading back to HK the same day. However, it looks to be interesting. I had asked one of my colleagues there what a KTV was (I already knew but I was looking for info on the scene in ZH). Well, that opened up a whole bunch of stories. I'll see if I can get my company to send me back out and this time I'll plan to spend a few days in ZH and do some exploring. I doubt I'll have a chance to go anywhere else in China (at least not with my company paying the bill).

I wonder if I can put P4P as a reason for the VISA application




Horny toad

Did your company paid for the 141 girl bill,I Don't think so Don't be cheap you travel all the way to China and didn't spend a few extra day on your own budget to have some fun, Zhu Hai is much cheaper than HK and I travel there 4 time a yr for business and fun and your can read some of my report on the China forum.



Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Nasty Nate 87]Hi Everyone,

I'm 21 and I'm in HK for a summer internship. I'll be staying until August. I don't really have any friends here, and not very many ways of meeting people my age. Everyone at my internship is old, and I'm not a big drinker, so the bars aren't exactly my thing. But, I do love women, dating, sex, just conversation, I like it all.

I hadan interesting thing happen to me the other day. I went to 37 Dundas for the first time. I had a pretty good session. And after we finished, we talked for a while. The girl said that she was 25. She said that most girls don't like doing things with guys that are younger than them. They say that it's kinda embarrassing, or awkward. She said it kinda bothered her, but because it was my first time at Dundas she didn't want to disappoint me. She suggested that I either try to just date someone, or if I really want to go to 37D a lot, just as for girls younger than myself.

Maybe she was just saying this to make me feel like she was special and get me to keep coming back for her, or something like that. But, I get the feeling that what she said was right. I don't know how many people my age, local or foreign, go to these types of places. But for the most part, I see younger people like me just dating regular girls. And from what I get, the patrons of 37D and places like it, are more of the older businessmen type people. But I'm not really sure, cuz I'm definatly a newbie to all of this.

So what do you guys think? Was she right? No was it BS? And what should I do? Not worry about what she said? Try to ask Yellow Sign places for girls younger than me? Should I try to meet regular girls and just try to get a normal girlfriend? Is that possible or worth it in the time frame of my stay? O and is anyone else on here in their early 20s? (just curious)

Thanks Everyone,

Nate[/QUOTE]


Most young guys in HK have their own girlfriends--but from what I know, they also enjoy the 141s, OKs, etc.). The bottom line is, do what you like and make your own choices. If you feel like banging at 37 Dundas, do it. If a girl feels funny about banging a guy younger than her, that's her problem--not yours.

When I was younger, I did both--that's have regular girlfriends and when they gave me a problem or attitude or they were busy, off to the massage I went to be treated nice and get laid. Enjoy yourself!

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]When I was younger, I did both--that's have regular girlfriends and when they gave me a problem or attitude or they were busy, off to the massage I went to be treated nice and get laid. Enjoy yourself![/QUOTE]Yes enjoy it.

My experience is:

In europe girls prefer often times younger men, or same age. If you are much older and you start to flirt with a young girl, you are called an old horny buck.

But in asia older men are respected. That´s another point I love asian girls so much!

[QUOTE=Hornytoad]Actually, the day after my 141 experience, I picked up my VISA and went over to Zhuhai. Unfortunately it was just for a business meeting there and I was heading back to HK the same day. However, it looks to be interesting. I had asked one of my colleagues there what a KTV was (I already knew but I was looking for info on the scene in ZH). Well, that opened up a whole bunch of stories. I'll see if I can get my company to send me back out and this time I'll plan to spend a few days in ZH and do some exploring. I doubt I'll have a chance to go anywhere else in China (at least not with my company paying the bill).

I wonder if I can put P4P as a reason for the VISA application

HT[/QUOTE]

You're luck to get a visa at all right now. Last week there was a further clampdown ordered by Beijing on issuing visas to foreigners. We all can't wait until these damn Olympics are over and the situation returns to something like normal, whatever that might mean in the PRC...

If you're coming back to HK, try learning a few Cantonese phrases if you're dealing with local girls like the one you had in Sai Wan, rather than Mainland chickens you normally meet here... "Xie xie" is Mandarin, here it's either "m-GOI" (for small things), or "DOH-jeh" (for big things). You won't get the tones right, but never mind. "GAY-doh cheen-AH?" is asking "How much money? How much does it cost?"

Mega

What is the name of a decent hotel 3plus star close to the mongering at Wan Chai that is recommended?

Do you think he will be able to let us know if he does ? The PLA secret police will be naking an undecover visit to break his legs. No ?

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]If you seriously don't want to get the visa, pleasse try and let us know.[/QUOTE]

I was staying at the conrad last week for two night in Wan Chai; After having some excellent sushi at the island shangrilla next door, I felt like having some more tasty delight. I was a bit upmarket and in the mood for something different so I was willing to pay a premium for a japanese girl with nice boobs, I also wanted service at my hotel without going out. I found one that I thought fit the bill. Yumiko from Causeway Bay.

[url]http://******.com/en/viewid.php?uid=24283&region=-1&building=-1&territory=3&age=-1&bsize=-1&height=-1&service=-1&nationality=&stype=-1&keyword=[/url]

I had had one earlier encounter of the cheaper variety with a 141 lady and it was great, of course pictures are representative but touched up, etc. But the girl that showed up was completely wrong. First of all she was not even Japanese, she spoke no english and was from Hunan. Yes, she had nice breasts and decent body as she was only 20, the face was definitely not pretty. Barely average. But so much for my following a japanese meal with a japanese treat!

Service was completely non existent. After taking a shower she basically lay back with a condom in her hand and held up 1 finger (which I guess was one shot only) and closed her eyes! I had half a mind to just grudge f*** her and half to send her back, but was leaving the next morning so just decided to try and have my fun. She had absolutely no skills or enthusiasm, BJ was ridiculous, but she was pretty tight. Basically I paid a hell of a premium for big boobs, young, less used, body to lie on top of! I guess if I spoke Chinese it could have been different, maybe just wasn't her type. I would suggest people to avoid this one, a week later I am still thinking about how much a waste of money it was. I think this was my only real experience of a wg not working; I've had a couple of lack luster performers in Shenzhen, not only were they markedly cheaper, they did at least try some.

Though those of you wondering about gf-ness of the Conrad, it is pretty ok; especially since you can get into the elevator from the mall and don't have a walk of shame as such, hopefully I will be back, have heard a lot about mongering and pickup bars in Wan Chai, would like to try them.

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I've gone to Wanchai on Sunday afternoon and picked up a girl for short time at local hotel 3 times. Two times they asked for "taxi money" after which caught me a bit by surprise, seemed totally GFE with no mention of money. Anybody fill me in on the score here? My theory is now that I'm 40+ and don't hide being married they expect something. When I was younger and visiting they had girlfriend hopes. Any theories here?

MJ

Hello all,

I was in HK for 2 nights.

I had done my home work with [url]www.xxx.141.com[/url]. I has shortlisted someboby with with big assets and went striaght to 52-54 argayle st in mong kok in the first night. The service was good and the experiencxe was OK since I felt she was old had her 'assets' were sagging. But good enough for 350$ +20$ tips.

Next night I was determined to go to 37 Dundas. I asked the taxi guy to go to Dundas st (from Nathna Rd) and he obliged me. It took me 5 min to look for 37 dundas after he dropped me in dundas st. I went straight to 2nd flr.

I was asked to wait. They served me a beer. After sometime 1 girl was produced before me. she was 7/10. The price was 390+100=490$. I said OK. She took me to a room in the 4th flr with fresh supply of beer. I said ok and went. The experience was mind blogging (especially after a a pretty bad experience in Delhi a few weeks back). She was totally GFE and we had good bath together, DATY, BBBJ and good fuck. After the FS she was good enough to massage me for 10 min. I gave her 40$ tips. She was kind enough to give 10$ to the room managing lady.

37, dundas is the place for mongers in HK. Better than the 141 for sure.

regards

Purple

[QUOTE=Meguro Joe]I've gone to Wanchai on Sunday afternoon and picked up a girl for short time at local hotel 3 times. Two times they asked for "taxi money" after which caught me a bit by surprise, seemed totally GFE with no mention of money. Anybody fill me in on the score here? My theory is now that I'm 40+ and don't hide being married they expect something. When I was younger and visiting they had girlfriend hopes. Any theories here?

MJ[/QUOTE]
Me too..........are these the bars where all the pinays, indonesians goto (domestic workers on their day off)

What hotels are you talking about?

[QUOTE=Jiggy]What is the name of a decent hotel 3plus star close to the mongering at Wan Chai that is recommended?[/QUOTE]

Everyone I know uses the Ming Court Hotel on Lockhart Road. I suppose you can sleep there, too.

[QUOTE=Jiggy]Me too..........are these the bars where all the pinays, indonesians goto (domestic workers on their day off)

What hotels are you talking about?[/QUOTE]Exactly, good fun once in a while. Ming Court is the hotel I use but don't expect luxury but it does serve the purpose. It is across from the subway entrance on the second floor (really need to search for a small purple sign). There is another one a little further down the road towards Causeway bay that is a bit nicer and more expensive but I don't recall the name. Anyone know any other short time places nearby?

MJ

Generally I just RTFF without posting but had a great time in HK this week and thought I would provide an overview for newbies like myself. I'll start by saying this was my 2nd time to WangChi area and had made it to Fenwicks and a couple other places last time.

This time I was feeling more outgoing as I was also successful at a 4popper freebie in Taipei just before coming to HK. Anyway, I made it a point to meet some folks (guys) on the 1st night (Fri.) and was lucky enough to meet a couple of great local expats to show me the ropes and give me all the details. Had a great time with them just drinking and hanging out in addition to the female diversions.

Anway, 1st night made the rounds. They are probably 10+ places to spend your time but seemed to make the rounds of at least Laguna, Makati, Neptunes each night. There are tons of women, generally Phili, Thai, Indo and in spite of my new friend's guidance that Thai are lookers but boring in the sack, I set my eye on one and decided to try her. Won't go into the details but they were right. Not bad but not good either. Scratch it up to experience.

Night 2: Started with the same procedure but also got to meet a few girls who work at my friend's company during the week. Phili girls. Had my eye on one but another one was all over me. Long story, short. Ended up drinking/dancing with both at the end of the night and then I said I was going home but they couldn't decide who would come with me, so, I ofter them both an evening of enjoyment back at my hotel with big 3some fantasies running through my head. To my surprise, I do get them back to my hotel. Good so far. But, even though I am still quite drunk I realize that they are friends but not the kind of 'good' friends I had hoped meaning I was going to have to do all the work myself without being able to sit back for some spectator sports every so often. So, the 3 of us get in the shower but neither one of them is touching the other in spite of my efforts of at 3some soap sandwich. One got out first so also get out and went to work on her on the bed. Finished that one up and go to work on the other who has since got in bed but was 'pretending' to sleep. Getting that one worked up while still trying to keep the 2nd one involved. Anyway, my dreams of real kinky 3some end at this point when the first one decides to leave. No problem, I divert all my attention to the 2nd one (the one I preferred earlier in the night) and we have a great time and a couple more rounds. Not sure if my night counts as a 3some but I guess at least at 2. 5some! ? One point I did conclude is that Phili are definitely better than Thai. At least this weekend.

Now, after a couple days of hard work in HK plus my 'personal best' outing in Taipei just prior, I am completely spent and my plan was to take Sunday off. .

Night 3: So, thought I would just hook up with my new friends and thank them with a few drinks but texted, and looking around couldn't find them. Then, I remember that they kept telling me Sunday was the best night as many local service girls have Sunday off and are out to live it up so I end up at Makati's figuring one or two drinks and some girl watching then back to hotel for an early night. Got to talking to an Englishman and started watching a group of Phili service workers out celegrating a friends Bday party. The sexy group dancing was entertaining enough. Anyway to make the first part of the night short, one eventually comes over and is all over me, quite drunk, googely eyes, telling me I'm cute, her friends think I'm cute, etc. And, ohh, by the way she tells me she's married. But that didn't stop her. Guess the home life could be better (? ). I could tell she was determined. So, what the heck, my night off turned into some 'desparate housewifes' action and I must say it was great. She was really into things and kept telling me what a 'naught girl' she was. Which was a total turn on every time she said it. I left early the next morning but with her phone # and email for my next visit.

After having spent notable time in Japan and Taiwan on normal business, I must say HK is definitely my favorite.

My English friend also told me Lang Kwai Dong area of central is even better. Could it be? . Next trip I think I'll give that a try.

After a short stay in Macau I had to go back to HK for one night. I like to stay at Langham Place and so I went there.

After the Macau Sauna experience with any service in abundance I wanted to face a little bit more challange. And I went out of the hotel to find a girl on road. The Langham Place mall is full of people, espec. young ones. I tried at several places to get in contact with people, but this time it was quite hard. So I went to the delifrance for a coffee. While seating there a single girl got my attentention. I smiled to her, but she ignored me. So I read my newspaper and enjoyed my coffee. When she stood up she lost her mobile and I took the chance to pick it up and gave it back to her. She smiled at me and so we had a short chat. While chatting I asked her for some hints in HK (finally I saw that I knew more about HK as foreigner than she knows as HK girl) and she offered me to show me a little bit of HK. We agreed to meet again 1 hour later. After 1 hour she really came back and we did a short tour around Mongkok. Although it was early I invited her for dinner at a japanese restaurant. After dessert she answered my question: To you or to me? straight: To you!
And so we jumped to the hotel. Langham Place is girlfriendly, no problem at all.
But first we went to the hotel spa and the poolbath together. It was quite funny, because I had to get a swimsuit for her. Surprisengly the spa staff had one for her. Much more surprise for me: When we asked for the suit the spa girl told me: The next time you can ask me to join you. What ever this means, I will check out it next time.
After the spa we went for my room for nice GFE sex session. It is fun including the respect for each of both of us. Fun of sex, also with a foreigner. No money, no obligation, but respect.

She is now sleeping, I will join her in a few minutes.

HK is always a special place for me. Challenge, fun, service. You can get what you want. I didn't expect to meet a girl like her. But it shows me again, hunting is not only running in saunas and bars.
I love and admire HK.

Whomer

[QUOTE=Meguro Joe]Exactly, good fun once in a while. Ming Court is the hotel I use but don't expect luxury but it does serve the purpose. It is across from the subway entrance on the second floor (really need to search for a small purple sign). There is another one a little further down the road towards Causeway bay that is a bit nicer and more expensive but I don't recall the name. Anyone know any other short time places nearby?

MJ[/QUOTE]

I think that's the Wharney Hotel...?

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Most young guys in HK have their own girlfriends--but from what I know, they also enjoy the 141s, OKs, etc.). The bottom line is, do what you like and make your own choices. If you feel like banging at 37 Dundas, do it. If a girl feels funny about banging a guy younger than her, that's her problem--not yours.

When I was younger, I did both--that's have regular girlfriends and when they gave me a problem or attitude or they were busy, off to the massage I went to be treated nice and get laid. Enjoy yourself![/QUOTE]I've heard the same. But I think it has been a bit of a problem for me because the last few girls I've had at 37D have all said that they feel kinda weird being with someone so young (or at least younger than they are). I'm worried that this might mean that I'm getting worse service than what I could get if I were older. So it kinda becomes my problem (not just theirs as you mentioned).

What do you guys think? Agree? Disagree?

BTW, Thanks for the replies, I didn't think anyone would pay attention to the topic.

I've been to HKG a few times and have gone to K-Pressure and 37D and to Wanchai. I've also walked into a few saunas and in a couple of them been given a menu.

I don't remember the details of them but it was something like $4xx for 60 minute massage, $6xx for 90 minutes with a HJ and $9xx for sex. The guy tells you this while you're sitting on one of the chairs next to other people but hey, everyone is there for the same purpose.

Since the times I was given the menu I had come from either K or 37D, I opted for the $6xx option. I can't remember the names of them but it seems like they are pretty standard.

I was in another one in Wanchai where it was about $4xx and they claimed massage only but both me and my friend each received a HJ without really having to ask.

My question is, are there any saunas that compare with the Macau saunas in HKG? Ones where they have girls who will wash you or give you head/thigh/foot massages in the chair?

I know I read some reports a little over a month ago about some good saunas but are they in this category? I know you probably won't get anything like 18 but anything close?

I'll be there only for a night next week and would like to visit one. I haven't booked a hotel yet so any area is fine.

Which was the one in Wanchai?

[QUOTE=Sugoi]I was in another one in Wanchai where it was about $4xx and they claimed massage only but both me and my friend each received a HJ without really having to ask.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Sugoi]I was in another one in Wanchai where it was about $4xx and they claimed massage only but both me and my friend each received a HJ without really having to ask.[/QUOTE]Can you tell me where this one is? Easy to find one in TST, but I've never found one that does this in Wanchai.

First time to post in the HK forum, but you can see my other reports in Peru/Philippines, etc.

Won't go into my Wan Chai stories, as they don't differ much from most of the stories here. Just wanted to share my sauna story in Hong Kong.

The other day, I decided to leave the Island and check out the Temple Street Market in Jordan. Pretty interesting, bought some stupid things, and then proceeded to start walking around. Only found 1, not very attractive, SW (but then again, it was around 7 PM, not really prime time yet? ) at the market, but I did see a few saunas. I had RTFF a while back (when I first learned of my project here), but I had forgotten which saunas in Hong Kong were recommended, and which one's weren't. Which is difficult on Temple Street, as there are a lot of them around.

Finally, I crossed Jordan Road (where the MTR exit is at), and went to the South side of Temple Street, where there are a large concentration of saunas. One of them actually had a front door attendant (most didn't at the time), and she invited me in.

Very similar layout to your standard sauna (of course, I've only been in this one and 18 in Macau; the HK one was slightly less fancy). Walked in, given a locker, had a GREAT shower (they had the natural-rain type shower heads), a nice hot/cold jacuzzi, then settled down in the nice (reclining! ) chairs. Unlike Macau, there were no attendants grubbing for tips. Also, no massage offerings in the lounge room; that was reserved for the room.

The lounge was very nice, they had 2 large LCD tvs, one showing Canto news, and the other a movie channel with subtitles in Chinese and English. Free (non-alcoholic) drinks. After about 10-15 minutes, a staff came over with a menu and explained the system. There were 2 or 3 other items, but she only explained the following to me (the menu was in Chinese):

45-min Private Massage: $348 (This was advertised outside)

45-min Massage w/Release: $448

45-min Full Service: $698

And I opted for:

45-minutes, 4-hand (2 girl) massage PLUS 45-min FS with 1 girl: $988

She smiled and told me to wait, as she was going to find a "real good girl" for me, and it sounded like she actually meant it.

After about 5-10 more minutes, I went upstairs, and there were 2 females in the comfortable room. The first one was the Massage Expert (she told me during the massage "I'm massage only! " but noone would want to do her anyway; over 40 and bulky! But good hands). The second one was beautiful girl, 20 years old, small but firm breasts (I don't like the fakes), and very sensual, 8/10 at least.

No rush on time, the massage was quite good and relaxing (it was on an actual massage table). The FS girl spoke no English, but the Massage Expert gave me a little small talk. After she left, FS started. Very very slowly, with very soft caresses and touches, which I love. Outstanding CBJ (which is saying something) followed by extremely satisfying FS. I was incredibly impressed with her acting ability. Very soft, tender, caring, very GFE through the session. Right up until I popped. Then, Up, Out, and cleanup. No more smiling, nothing. To her credit, she didn't run me out of the room, but finished with a nice head/neck massage until time ran out.

Walked back downstairs, had another shower/hot tub, then sat down in the lounge again for some instant noodles with chicken wings (they also had sandwiches, but not a full menu), then left. All-in-all, very impressed, and I will return next time I'm in Jordan.

Details: Name: Metro Lotus Sauna Location: South Temple Street, across Jordan Rd from the market (look for the sign, partly in English, right side of the street) Services rendered: 45-min 4-hand massage 45-min FS Excellent sauna facilities Free non-alcoholic drinks Free cigarettes (for those interested) Small but free food menu English friendly Total damage: HK$988

Judgment: Sauna facilities/service just as good as Macau, with the disadvantage of no soapy massage and no fishbowl. Good for a lazy night in HK, 10 min away from Wan Chai by MTR.

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[QUOTE=Horny Devil7]Can you tell me where this one is? Easy to find one in TST, but I've never found one that does this in Wanchai.[/QUOTE]

It wasn't advertised on a menu and the front desk even said it is massage only but it offered more. Sorry, don't remember the name of it but it is a little west of the Wanchai station on a street that runs North/South. If you come out of the station, go left a few blocks and turn right on one of the streets. It's not too far up on the right side. Perhaps one of the people more familiar with Wanchai can help with the name.

[QUOTE=MegaPoint]I think that's the Wharney Hotel...?[/QUOTE]The Wharney is a regular hotel - I think what you're looking for is Villa Victoria, which is about two blocks further along Lockhart Rd towards Causeway Bay. There's a discreet entrance in the alleyway on the side, and the place is a lot nicer than Ming Court (a bit more expensive - can't recall how much though). But one thing to remember - if you want to take two girls, they charge you double the room rate!

The Wanchai girls also know other short stay hotels in the Causeway Bay area ... just ask!

[quote=overcome888]the wharney is a regular hotel - i think what you're looking for is villa victoria, which is about two blocks further along lockhart rd towards causeway bay. there's a discreet entrance in the alleyway on the side, and the place is a lot nicer than ming court (a bit more expensive - can't recall how much though). but one thing to remember - if you want to take two girls, they charge you double the room rate!

the wanchai girls also know other short stay hotels in the causeway bay area ... just ask![/quote]

you're right, my champange taste was coming through there. i've just heard there are interesting things going down at the wharney, sometimes.

there are 5 or 6 villa victorias rep001tered around hk in various strategic places, and that's just a riot about the japanese-style arrangement (pay by the number of people in the room) if you want to take two girls!

I popped into 37D for some recreation this evening and was generally disappointed. As a regular customer, I'm hoping this was a once-off and not a trend towards decline.

The line-up was hopeless - I've never before failed to pick a decent girl from the first line-up, but today's selection (just three) was very poor. Not even K-Pressure standard. I rejected them all. The mama returned with one other girl who was only a small improvement and faced with the choice of taking her or hitting the street, I accepted her. Her name was Elaine, or perhaps Ah Lam. Hard to tell.

It took her ages to return to the room and bring me upstairs. Again, very unusual.

Facially, she was really nothing special at all, but I was mildly pleased to find, when she undressed, that she had an amazingly good body - no flab, perfect B-cup perky breasts.

Service was standard until I was capped and penetrated her. She simply couldn't take my standard-issue xiao didi. After a few minutes of banging away she was literally begging me to stop, offering hand-relief to finish.

Irked, I jerked off over her tits and face. She read my mood, reaching for another condom and saying, "sorry, sorry", but I really didn't want to hurt the girl.

A little disappointing, for sure. I will go back, but it will be their last chance!

[QUOTE=Sugoi]My question is, are there any saunas that compare with the Macau saunas in HKG? Ones where they have girls who will wash you or give you head/thigh/foot massages in the chair?[/QUOTE]There are some yellow sign places that seem to now approximate this - shower with a full scrub - if you know what I mean. Kind of like being in a soapy.

Sauna scene I don't know of yet here.

Basah

After the last experience that has been filed in the "do no disturb" draw in the recesses of my mind only to be opened on sleepless nights, I decided that whilst fueled with a few Stellas and my wedding date ahead, I needed to confront the place. Living in HK, and working in a high torque sales environment, I know that Wanchai will be a part of my life from now on. I need to be able to go there and not feel the driving need to shag the shit out of every flipper I see. So under the ruse of getting a suit fitted I headed there again with no time and no money. I hit Laguna, Neptunes and Fenwicks between 7 and 8. 30 and am pleased with the results. Some nice looking girls there and chatted with a few and to be fair, found them interesting and early in the evening, I think they liked chewing the cud with someone not out to bang them. This was followed by a lunch in WC a few days later and I can assure you guys, there is lots of action to be had there at Lunchtime. Sitting in the window seat of Delaneys, and giving the eye to every good looking Filipino, I spoke with at least 3 and arranged to meet two of them later in the clubs. I never went.

Wedding day looming, and a couple of enlightened guys from the office suggest a stag do. With no chance to get more than a few hours, the plan is to head to WC and drink up the sleeze. The rest of the guys would be punting but there would not be enough time for me. We start in one of the birdseye bars by the bridge on Lockart. After about an hour discussing which is better. Freebird or Shine on you crazy diamond, with a split verdict, we split to go somewhere else. First call was Amazonia which, apart from the waitresses in schoolgirl outfits was depressingly empty. Time is 7. 30, and we head straight to Laguna.

A few beers down, and my dead line approaching, the guys convince 4 girls to give me a kiss. These kisses get me hard. The phone rings. Its my now wife asking where I am, and I say I am on my way but she gets on one, and starts having a go.

Back to the action, and armed with my brooding anger at her indoors, and a lot of grog in a few hours I head back to the gang. Marilyn is a sexy 19 years old girl, and her friend is truly a 9 but the boss has her signed sealed and soon to be delivered. Flirt with M a bit, and have a kiss and a bit of a fumble. But she is nervous, and has a visa run tomorrow which is distracting her. I get her number and head to the floor. Spot another girl who is by herself, stunning, and I head straight for her. I waste no time on small talk and ask her to leave with me. I scare her though. She's not interested in short time action in a seedy hotel and wants to be wooed before whoring herself. Theres a chick on the dance floor doing a solo act. Demin mini and crisp white top. She stacked and shaking her ass. In her mind she is dancing in her bedroom in front of the mirror and the only eyes watching her, needing her, undressing her are her stuffed toys. I could not get near her as there was a cue of men interrupting her, and being knocked back. Guess she was waiting for an out of towner to pay her 3-4k.

I spin round on having my ass touched to see two flippers. Check them out and say "Hi, you want to get out of here? ". We cut a deal for 1500 for the pair which is high, but they were very close friends if you catch my drift.

Off to the short time on lockhart road, and pay 270 bucks for an hour. Into the shower and then I set one to drying and massaging the other. I become a porn director, occasionally introducing my cock into the scene until I get on the bed and we got for it. They are good, young but experienced, and I end up cumming buckets over the better looking of the twos body and face whilst the other on sucks my balls. Lovely.

Hit the shower and leave them in the room. Straight to the taxi and to the ferry, late. Then the smell of perfume hits me. It's over powering and hammering at my head. I try to wash it off but it doesn't go. So before I get home I buy a bear, tip it all over me and rub it in well, and walk in the door. I get pushed straight to the showers where I do a proper job. I sleep on the sofa bed as punishment, and in the middle of the night I'm not feeling guilty. I'm masturbating. I'm hooked again and Marilyn's phone number is beckoning me.

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Firstly Akka, there is a wise saying which goes something like 'be good, but if you can't, be careful.' Wise words.

Arrived in HK today and after checking in to the Metropark CB, made my way on the MTR to Dundas street. It was my first time, but really, it beggars belief that someone could not find it, particularly if using the info in the maps section here.

Was pulled into the establishment on the 1st floor. Arrived at about 4.30pm. Usual routine, beer, tv, but this time, not porn but the olympics!

Shown two girls; my heart sank = one was late 20s and dumpy, one was thirties and not much better, asked the girl if she had some more, she said wait ten mins. No problem.

5 minutes later two more girls, one was a 6, quite cute in her own way and I picked her, as the other one was staring at the floor and looking grumpy.

Her name was 'Eyefee' (phonetic), 25 and almost no English. She was very sweet however. Nice sensitive titties.

She was not a complete GFE as had been previously described as the norm here - virtually no FK (which I am fine with considering it was likely she had already put her tongue in various places that day). The shower was very thorough and BBBJ which was actually very good, had to slow her down on occasion.

Onto the bed, and a cat bath all over me, anal rimming (rather than sticking her tongue right up my ass she used a finger in there and then licked around her finger - felt pretty good actually). All the while she was tossing me off, and at times I had to slow it all down a bit. More BBBJ and then I was dying to get inside that pussy (framed by a delicious powder puff of black hair). She bagged me with her mouth and hands (using my pasante large condom which I had brought along).

The FS was quite a surprise. She mounted me immediately, no moaning, no 'too big' etc and proceed to ride fuck out of me for over ten minutes. She came (i could tell when the fake moans became real, haha) and her energy was immense in that position. It is rare that I come inside a girl with a condom, and even rarer that I do so not at a moment of my own choosing, but her pussy was deliciously tight and her energy and enthusiasm meant, quite unexpectedly, I came inside her.

She gave me a massage with the remaining time (which I asked for) and then cleaned me up.

I shouldn't have but I tipped her fifty HK as I liked her fascination with my roman nose. Sweet girl, great fuck, but not if you want a really GFE/PSE.

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TOFTT with a 141 girl in Prince Edward, Gigi at 58B, 7/F, 56-58 Lai Chi Kok Road in Prince Edward.

Her body looked great on the site and it was pretty good, but her face wasn't great. No kiss, no DATY, she hurried me up and told me she didn't like this and that. No good. Most pleasant experience was chatting in the shower beforehand.

Avoid.

Can anyone let me know what impact the Olympics has had on the Wan Chai scene? Have visa issues limited the number of Filipinas? Are there big crowds in the bars. I'm in town from 18 - 23 August so wondering what to expect.

Thanks,

CT

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory]Can anyone let me know what impact the Olympics has had on the Wan Chai scene? Have visa issues limited the number of Filipinas? Are there big crowds in the bars. I'm in town from 18 - 23 August so wondering what to expect.

Thanks,

CT[/QUOTE]The only difference is the punters have something else too look at while sitting in Fenwick's. The visa restrictions leading up to the Olympics affected the mainland and not HK. Don't forget for most of these girls the Olympics are as relevant as ice fishing. I think the entire Philippine Olympic team consists of one skeet shooter and the Thais sent a scrawny weightlifter. I once had a girl ask me what that game was called pointing to a TV where the English Premier League was being played. Bottom line - business as usual

[QUOTE=Overcome888]The only difference is the punters have something else too look at while sitting in Fenwick's. The visa restrictions leading up to the Olympics affected the mainland and not HK. Don't forget for most of these girls the Olympics are as relevant as ice fishing. I think the entire Philippine Olympic team consists of one skeet shooter and the Thais sent a scrawny weightlifter. I once had a girl ask me what that game was called pointing to a TV where the English Premier League was being played. Bottom line - business as usual[/QUOTE]Will be back in HK from tomorrow on. Does anybody know how the Colombian scene is in Wanchai?

[url]http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24179241-663,00.html[/url]

Was in Fenwicks last Sunday and hit on an amazing looking Vietnamese girl, 'Trang' (23). Was too drunk to fuck that night, so took her number and hooked up with her again on my way transitting back through HK. I must say, the downtown checkin is a godsend for times like this!

Negotiated over phone at 900HKD for 1. 5hrs. Was directed to the Park Excellent hotel in Hennessy Rd. Their ST rate is 170HKD for 2 hours. The room is actually pretty good. Aircon and a decent size bathroom. There is a dedicated porn channel on the TV as well.

Trang arrived and she looks gorgeous. She is a light skinned vietnamese girl from Hanoi, with a nice figure (not too skinny) and the most perfect titties. She has a tattoo on her tmmy just above her bikin line.

Everything was on offer (other than A. Although I didn't ask) and started with some very involved DFK. A mutual shower followed and then onto the bed for some OWO and rimming. The feeling of her tongue snaking over my balls and ass whilst she jerked my cock was heaven! This girl does most things without needing to be asked which is always a bonus.

Major mind control to stop myself coming so I asked her to bag it and she continued to suck me off and play with my ass. She climbed on, nice tight pussy and she rode me CG whilst I played with those amazing tits and indulged in some more kissing. Missionary was up next and she was really into it, reaching around tugging on my ballsack as I fucked her hard. She came and I was amazed I didn't blow my bolt inside her there and then.

To slow things down I got her to suck me off again and then went back to mish. This girl loves to fuck, if I slowed it down to stop the inevitable, she would just raise and thrust her hips back into me. Who was fucking who here?

After a long sweaty fuck she asked me to come in her mouth, so I debagged it and she jerked my off into her mouth. Heaven! She didn't swallow but allowed the come to dribble out of her mouth onto those tits and let me rub it in a bit, before she decamped to the shower. With the 90 mins nearly up she washed me and some more FK before she was out the door. I slipped her 20HKD in change for a cab. Trang is one of the best fucks I have had in HK. Facially she is stunning and normally such looks are a trade off for poor service, but not in this case. She is returning to Hanoi on the 17th, but as this was her 3rd fortnight in the past few months, I am sure she will be back. Will definitely see again, whether in HK or Hanoi!

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Chaps

I been confining my early evening tours to Laguna recently for a specific reason. If you only have an hour to get there, talk to a girl and get a number, you need to go somewhere where you know there will be some action in good quantities. Laguna always has 20+ girls from 6pm onwards. What about the otherclubs though?

Boracay? Neptunes? Makiti? Fenwicks?

Also, the Karaoke joint near to Dusk til dawn - Any ideas on that because i have seen some crackers going in there recently. Is it a legit place or is it a pickup joint also? Particularly interested in this one as I love a sing song before getting a wet dong.

Does anyone have up to date info on these places in the time frame of 6.30 - 8pm?

I know i could just go in them myself, but I hope you guys could save me wasting a rare early evening of seediness.

How has the action been at Hari's? Any chance for flippers or Thai gals there? If not at Hari's, where can I find a flipper or Thai gal in TST?

Kev

Okay, I landed in Hong Kong right on the Level Typhoon 8 call (08年08月06日 ) and the plane landed on an ascent. Oh man! Anyway, it was my first time in Hong Kong during a Level 8 and I never knew they shut everything down....AHH! That meant I couldn't go to Macau, so I went to Sino Center to find everything closed. So what do I do?

Save money. Went to Jordan Sauna (my old spot) to get a massage and girl. Yep, I walk in and say "Long Time No See", and they all remembered me. Did the usual and they give me this short fat shit. However, her English was excellent and her massage and HJ skills was super. No doubt they gave me the best they had. She was so happy. I opted for the Body Slide with HJ for $568.00 HKD. Good price. It was really good. She even said bye to me after I paid, so she was cool. She was a Hong Kong girl too, not from the mainland.

She also did a verbal step by step like "Now I'm going to take your pants off so I can give you full body oil massage" as she was pulling them off. OH YES!

So, why do all the short fat shits give really good service and the hot ones are like a klutz? Will never know. A monger posted a massage report just a short while ago called "Metro Lotus Sauna Location: South Temple Street, across Jordan Rd from the market" that offers a 4 hand massage plus has all the pools, food $988.00. Will go here next time (if only I knew this BEFORE I went to Hong Kong). But I have to get to Hong Kong again and try it (unless I'm snatched away from the hobby....it's that close to the line now.). Will post a report in the Macau Sauna section shortly.

Gyaos.

[QUOTE=Kev 3X]How has the action been at Hari's? Any chance for flippers or Thai gals there? If not at Hari's, where can I find a flipper or Thai gal in TST?

Kev[/QUOTE]
Sticky fingers

Brief Update:

Recently, I had some time on my own for a few days away from my live-in Chinese girlfriend. I wanted to spend the free time visiting some old and new YS stops. I visited several but only the best that are worth mentioning are listed below. The opening hours are generally from 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. the next morning for the YS noted below.

459-457 Shanghai St. Yellow Sign, Rated A
This is the first time I had visited this place and I was very surprised! The price was only 360HK for 50 minutes and the service was very good. It included good sex and a really good BBBJ! Also, the mamason wanted to make sure I had received good service when I was leaving.

The next day, I went back--and again good service and nice mamason. To reach this YS, when you are at 37 Dundas, walk to Shanghai st and turn right. Cross the street and walk a block or so and you will see 459-457 Shanghai near the corner. Note that the girls I had were in there late 20's or early 30's but really nice and good service. They have you sit in a room and one at a time, the girls come to your room. If you like, you tell her, if not you tell her no, then another one will come.

37 Dundas, Rated A
What can I say, 37 Dundas is always a standout and my visit this time was no different. Nice girl, BBBJ, and good sex! 490HK for 50 minutes. Also, in the same building as 37-D is another YS place (3rd floor, as I recall). I have only been there once last year and the service was good at that time. For directions, see search previous postings.

k-Pressure, Rated A
I was very impressed with K-P, I had not been there for several years because of bad service, but this time it was very good. Also, the rooms were new and very nice, the best I have seen for a YS. The girl I had was 25, good BBBJ, great sex, and a nice massage. 500Hk for 50 minutes. For directions, see search previous postings.

Golden Cumming Club, Ghost House?
What is the deal with the famous Golden Cumming Club? The YS sign light is always on, but the place is closed--at least the night I went. Years ago, before the police closed it, GCC was a great place to go.

Other YS
When I go to a YS, the words I hate to hear from the papason is "no girl."
Translation, "we have no girls for YOU because we think you foreigner have a big dic_ and we do not want you to fuc_ our little puss_ girls." Ok, I guess they have a right to choose who fu_k's their girls. I had heard "no girl" several times from the papasons which really made me appreciate the YS I had mentioned above. I know they have girls because all they need to do is simply make a call to one of several pimps they deal with and have a girl sent over.

For guys who do not have a lot of time to waste visiting 141s and finding out the girl is busy, she has moved, or to find out the service is bad, or to go to YS that are a waste of time, or to pay overpriced money in foreigner bars around Lockhart and Jaffe road (on this post some guys stated paying $150 for a Philippine pussy from the bars--a word to the wise, Philippine pussy goes for $35 in Mong Kok), simply head to the YS I mentioned above.

In the future, when I have free time, I will seek out and try new YS and report on the good ones. Note that I had a great time at the YS noted above. However, "your mileage may vary" due to time of day you visit the YS, number of girls available, how you dress and present yourself, etc. However, I can say that most of the time, you should receive good service at the places mentioned above. This is due to quality control enforced by the mamason.

With the 141s, I find there is no quality control and most of the time service is ok to below average--but sometimes you may get lucky and find a good one. Also, now, I hate going from 141 to 141 looking for the right girl, the girl that is not busy, pictures that do not match the actual girl, etc. Years ago, I had no problem doing the 141 search. Now, I prefer to go to one location that has several girls for me to choose from.

My trip from last week started with a visit to KP for old times sake, and because it was close by. At 10:30 AM, it was open but with only 1 provider. Her name was WanKay or phonetically something like that, fake boobs but nice silicone feel rather than lumpy saline, ok attitude for having just woken up. Overall good first pop for the week, but as per recent reports, the overall quality seems down from years ago (at least early in the morning). Can confirm they are open at this hour.

Walked down the street and can also confirm there were 2 walk-ups open, plus another 3 on the parallel street away from the MTR.

After Undercover's good set of pointers, here's another one.

Got a call from Nancy, my no-shit mammasan who used to run CLub Meeting (392A Portland, now $370 all in).

Nancy's now moved to Gam Sing -- Portland St, 141, 1/F (tel. 6470 2750), just around the corner actually from 37 Dundas.

Just been redecorated, and looks v. nice, clean, big round bed, mirrors, usual job, big plasma TV with standard porno. Clean new towels too!

It's like K-Pressure. YOu see one girl at a time for 2 mins for an introductory chat. If you dont like em, you can see another. 3 is usually your lot.
Damage is $490 ($390 + $100 hotel) all paid to Nancy before you go up. Usual no tipping expected routine, plus follow up QA check from the mama.

But it was much cleaner and less dingy looking than a lot of the rest. Worth checking out.

Tell Nancy John sez Hi if you go ...

JS

Great report Undercoverh! Just visited 37 Dundas yesterday with a friend who has an affinity for Filipinas, so 459 might be his cup of tea. Do they have other nationalities as well?

By the way, was there a room charge, or is HK360 all inclusive?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Brief Update:

459-457 Shanghai St. Yellow Sign, Rated A
This is the first time I had visited this place and I was very surprised! The price was only 360HK for 50 minutes and the service was very good. It included good sex and a really good BBBJ! Also, the mamason wanted to make sure I had received good service when I was leaving.

For guys who do not have a lot of time to waste visiting 141s and finding out the girl is busy, she has moved, or to find out the service is bad, or to go to YS that are a waste of time, or to pay overpriced money in foreigner bars around Lockhart and Jaffe road (on this post some guys stated paying $150 for a Philippine pussy from the bars--a word to the wise, Philippine pussy goes for $35 in Mong Kok), simply head to the YS I mentioned above.

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I am arriving too late to go to macau by ferry and leaving to early to risk delay[bloody NORTHWEST AIRLINES] so i am at NOVOTEL@ airport or close by.Any suggestions on action without venturing too far?

[QUOTE=John Smart]After Undercover's good set of pointers, here's another one.

Got a call from Nancy, my no-shit mammasan who used to run CLub Meeting (392A Portland, now $370 all in).

Nancy's now moved to Gam Sing -- Portland St, 141, 1/F (tel. 6470 2750), just around the corner actually from 37 Dundas.

Just been redecorated, and looks v. nice, clean, big round bed, mirrors, usual job, big plasma TV with standard porno. Clean new towels too!

It's like K-Pressure. YOu see one girl at a time for 2 mins for an introductory chat. If you dont like em, you can see another. 3 is usually your lot.
Damage is $490 ($390 + $100 hotel) all paid to Nancy before you go up. Usual no tipping expected routine, plus follow up QA check from the mama.

But it was much cleaner and less dingy looking than a lot of the rest. Worth checking out.

Tell Nancy John sez Hi if you go ...

JS[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the tip! I like reading about recommended YS. I will certainly try this YS on my next "home alone" weekend!

As a note to the general viewing public of this posting, keep in mind you now have a total of 5 recommended YS! Also note that on Shanghai and Portland, you will find regular massage places that cost around 120 to 160HK. I like to get regular massage to get my juice flowing and then off to a YS.

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]Great report Undercoverh! Just visited 37 Dundas yesterday with a friend who has an affinity for Filipinas, so 459 might be his cup of tea. Do they have other nationalities as well?

By the way, was there a room charge, or is HK360 all inclusive?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]


To clarify, 459 Shanghai has Chinese girls as far as I know. Yes, 360 includes the room, girl, and sex. By far, this place is value for the money. The $35 I had referred for Flip girls are at the YS located past the new Langham Place hotel in Mong Kok on Shanghai and Portland streets heading towards the direction of mainland China. There may also be some in the opposite direction.

You will have to walk both streets and look for the YS (or in this case yellow sheets of long paper posted at the door that can be viewed from the street) that list the type of girls and price. When I was out this past weekend, the prices were as follows:

Thai and Flip 200Hk
Russian 500HK
Malay 300 to 400HK
Chinese 200 to 360HK

Type, quality, service, will vary depending on time of day or night. If they try to charge you more than the posted price, walk away. Charging the higher price may occur if it is late in the morning (2 to 6 am) and they claim they have to wake the girl up--BS, if that is the case, they should state the higher price on the paper.

As you can see, the prices are cheap in Mong kok. This is why I am always in shock when I read about guys paying 2 to 3 times as much in the tourist bars. Over the years, I have had each type of girls offered, but I prefer Chinese girls.

Hello everyone,

I will be in HK for a week and its my first time there, I'm searching fro advice regarding a hotel. I will mostly be shopping for low end mobile phones, MP3 players etc, so I need a hotel relatively close to electronics outlets.

If possible include street address, and average charges for a single room per night.

I also look forward to checking out the local action, I saw a report here with a reference to "Y S" what is that?

Thanks in advance.

LM

[QUOTE=LynnMan]Hello everyone,

I will be in HK for a week and its my first time there, I'm searching fro advice regarding a hotel. I will mostly be shopping for low end mobile phones, MP3 players etc, so I need a hotel relatively close to electronics outlets.

If possible include street address, and average charges for a single room per night.

I also look forward to checking out the local action, I saw a report here with a reference to "Y S" what is that?

Thanks in advance.

LM[/QUOTE]You want to be in Mongkok then or TST. Have a look at this website which will give you the info required.

[url]http://www.asiarooms.com/hong_kong/kowloon/tsim_sha_tsui-area.html[/url]

YS - Yankies Stadium. Massage parlour put up pictures of various baseball grounds outside the building which reflect the type, price and quality of service. Yankies fairly dependable but I would avoid Kansas City stadium and Seattle -

OR it means yellow signs. take your pick :)

I also look forward to checking out the local action, I saw a report here with a reference to "Y S" what is that?

Thanks in advance.

LM[/QUOTE]


Simply stated, YS means a lighted yellow sign outside a mini-hotel (usually no more than 10 rooms) that man go to select women for sex. Sometimes the signs are lighted pink sings. The standard time is around 45 to 50 minutes for a cost of around 200HK to 500HK. Cost varies depending on the type of girl offered, quality of girl, quality of service, and quality of the rooms. The average cost is 360HK.

At most YS, you can choose from up to 3 or 4 girls depending on who is available. Some YS bring all the girls to you at the same time to choose (e.g., 37 Dundas), others let the girl come to you one at a time. Normally, 4 is the max number of girls you can choose from. Most girls will be in their mid 20s to early 30s.

The advantage to going to a GOOD YS place is there is a mamason who ensures good service provided to you from the girl. Most open from 11:00 am until 6:00 am the next day. In Mong Kok, at last count, there are about 200+ YS outlets. Most are found on Portland and Shanghai streets with the starting point being Dundas street heading towards mainland China.

[QUOTE=Akka76]YS - Yankies Stadium. Massage parlour put up pictures of various baseball grounds outside the building which reflect the type, price and quality of service. Yankies fairly dependable but I would avoid Kansas City stadium and Seattle -

OR it means yellow signs. take your pick :)[/QUOTE]Okay - spewing. I thought it was that English sign that said "Russian .... 700".

Now going to have to take the YS girls up by PE and assign them to a team (well, it's not the girls, it's the establishment!)

Stll say ... yay to the right YS signs.

Passing through HK on the way back from Europe I had 2 days in HK but was staying out of town.

As you do I managed to steal a couple of hours to myself in Kowloon, so I headed straight for 37 Dundas Street. I was hot and sweaty when I got there and went right to the first floor to be welcomed and shown to a small, dark but thankfully cool room.

I was given a beer and the price of HK$490 for 50 mins was explained to me (full refund if not happy). Then four lovely but different ladies were shown into the room. It was hard to see them properly in due to the lighting but I chose Shirley as she was small and well endowed with a warm smile.

So I paid the fee and she took me up one level to a small but clean room. I stripped off whilst she fiddled around and then the usual comment "oo, you so big". Yes I know it is what they say to all westerners but it does do something for your ego

A bit of DFK then into the shower and a very pleasant wash down with a lot of playing and stand up body slide. Great stuff! I was ready to lift her up and do it there but it would not be right. What beautiful boobs she had and with bonus long hard nipples!

Dry off and onto the bed. Straight to a kneeling BBBJ, very well done and as much of a deep throat as she could do. Somehow she slipped between my legs and gave a bit of AR as well, a nice feeling but it is not my thing really. Then I returned the favour with DATY, she was writhing in pleasure, the moans could be fake but she was so wet!

That was it, we were so close I felt she would not object if I just took her bare back but no, I did the right thing and suggested that she produce a condom. She did it quickly and expertly smoothed it on with her lips. Then she simply lay on her back and spread her legs.

Heaven, given her small size she was nice and tight. I was surprised that I lasted a respectable time but she seemed to enjoy the pounding as much as I was. Again as she moved with me I let go and exploded in her with much satisfaction and we lay for short time to enjoy the moment.

Cleaned up and into the shower with more kisses and cuddles. Very much a GFE.

Dressed then I gave her a tip and made sure I praised her to the Madam on the way out.

A great time and good value, I would be back there every week if I could.

[QUOTE=Tiki Tour]Passing through HK on the way back from Europe I had 2 days in HK but was staying out of town.

As you do I managed to steal a couple of hours to myself in Kowloon, so I headed straight for 37 Dundas Street. I was hot and sweaty when I got there and went right to the first floor to be welcomed and shown to a small, dark but thankfully cool room.

I was given a beer and the price of HK$490 for 50 mins was explained to me (full refund if not happy). Then four lovely but different ladies were shown into the room. It was hard to see them properly in due to the lighting but I chose Shirley as she was small and well endowed with a warm smile.

So I paid the fee and she took me up one level to a small but clean room. I stripped off whilst she fiddled around and then the usual comment "oo, you so big". Yes I know it is what they say to all westerners but it does do something for your ego

A bit of DFK then into the shower and a very pleasant wash down with a lot of playing and stand up body slide. Great stuff! I was ready to lift her up and do it there but it would not be right. What beautiful boobs she had and with bonus long hard nipples!

Dry off and onto the bed. Straight to a kneeling BBBJ, very well done and as much of a deep throat as she could do. Somehow she slipped between my legs and gave a bit of AR as well, a nice feeling but it is not my thing really. Then I returned the favour with DATY, she was writhing in pleasure, the moans could be fake but she was so wet!

That was it, we were so close I felt she would not object if I just took her bare back but no, I did the right thing and suggested that she produce a condom. She did it quickly and expertly smoothed it on with her lips. Then she simply lay on her back and spread her legs.

Heaven, given her small size she was nice and tight. I was surprised that I lasted a respectable time but she seemed to enjoy the pounding as much as I was. Again as she moved with me I let go and exploded in her with much satisfaction and we lay for short time to enjoy the moment.

Cleaned up and into the shower with more kisses and cuddles. Very much a GFE.

Dressed then I gave her a tip and made sure I praised her to the Madam on the way out.

A great time and good value, I would be back there every week if I could.[/QUOTE]


I take my hat off to the mamsons at 37 Dundas as they do an excellent job of ensuring the girls provide great service. Like you, I have enjoyed my visits to 37D (8 times over the years at last count) and I have never been unhappy with the service or my girl. I agree with you that it is a great time and a good value. One of the best values for sex in HK.

The thing that has always amazed me is that these girls will lick a guys ass and suck his dick like it is the best thing in the world. They really get in to it.
I have had a lot of GFE there a few girls I have done twice (e.g., Faye Faye, and a girl named Cat).

I recall Faye Faye tried to get me to cum twice (once in her pussy and once in her mouth) she really worked hard at it. Now that's customer satisfaction!
It seems like 37D is one of a very few YS places in HK that understands that good service will result in repeat business and more profits for the owners, mamasons, and the girls.

man169

This website is in Chinese but if you have software translator a whole new world will open up to you. Even if you don't have a translator, it is still fun to check out the pics and prices of girls working in the YS and sex massage outlets in HK, Macau, and Shenzhen. This website also has a map of the locations with some English so you can still find the places. It also have phone numbers. Have fun.

I stayed for 4 nights in Nathan Hotel on Nathan road.
Very nearby is the night market of Temple street.
All the foot massage centers in this area offer more then only massage.
Prices around 300 HK all in (hand job)
Some of the saunacenters in this area also offer FS for 600,
You just walk in Temple street and the streets around it!!
Camieleke

I stumbled upon this website and thought I would pass it on. A real cutie, with an Filipina-Romanian mix. I have not seen any reviews and her prices are not cheap, but might be worth a look. How long she will be in Hong Kong is not clear. Good luck gents!

AT2

[url=http://giselle-escort.professionalescort.com/photos.php]Giselle[/url]

I received an private message in my inbox from a member asking if the YS are safe to go to. He stated some look unsafe as he walked on Portland and Shanghai streets. I thought I would answer this question for everyone.

First, bare in mind that all YS are not created equal. In HK, there are about 200+ YS (according to a 2003 HK police report). Many of the YS are owned and operated by the same business families and provide us with good Chinese, Thai, Russian, Malay, and Flip women to bang. I take my hat off to them! They also own most of the eating outlets, saunas, regular massage, and newspaper stands in Mong Kok and other areas of HK. Below are the two types of YS:

Class A YS:
These YS keep their own girls on site and when you arrrive, within a 5 minutes, you have several girls to choose from (usually 3 to 4 depending on the time of day and how busy they are). Some of the girls have worked at the same YS for a long time. For example, Faye Faye at 37 Dundas has been working there for all most 2 years. Nice looking Chinese girl (in my opinion) with nice medium sized tits, deep ass licking, and good BBBJ.

These YS are very concerned about customer service because they want repeat business. Thus, they school the girls on what they should do and how they should treat the customer. You will generally get a GFE at these YS.

The mamason generally will ask you about the level of service when you leave and if you have a very negative response, they will generally talk to the girl. These type of YS is where you will get the best service of all the YS and it is safe. I have been going to these type of YS off and on for the past 8 years and I have never had a problem.

These types of YS are 37 Dundas (note that there are two YS in the same building), K-Pressure, 457-459 Shanghai, 141 Portland (recently recommend by another member however I have never visited), and several others. Golden Cumming Club at 310 Portland has reopened but I have not been there recently. Prior to it closing a year ago, it was a great place and would be considered a Class A YS as I had visited it several times back then.

In the Class A YS, you will not be refused service because you are non-Chinese. Unless, you are being an ass hole, dress dirty or have some other REAL reason why a girl would not want to bang you. In a class A YS, I have never been refused service in the past 8 years.

BBBJ is included if after your dick inspection (washing in the shower) they feel comfortable sucking you with no condom. These YS have a good level of quality control. The mamsons are always nice and friendly.

Class B and lower YS:
The other YS do not maintain their own girls on site and they will call one of several pimps to send a girl over. You may have to wait for the girl as long as 15 minutes. When the girl arrives, she is often concerned about getting paid and going off to the next customer. Therefore, you may have a rush experience. You may or may not receive a BBBJ. But most importantly, there is very little or no quality control so your sex experience may be a hit or miss.

As far as being safe, it depends on where you go. Some class B and lower YS have several pimps in the location. I personally do not like banging a girl and being but naked while several guys are a few feet away on the other side other cheap locked door. Therefore, I stick with the Class A YS. The only problems I had in these Class B YS is that the guys are rude sometimes. Other then that, I have not had a problem mainly because I am nice and easy going and I do not give them a hard time. However, I am sure if you talk shit, they will deal with you by kicking your ass.

One time, I went to one of the lower class YS and the price was 260HK. When the girl arrived and after I started to get undressed, she asked for 100hk more because she said I had a big dick (ya right). She opened the door and called the pimp to the door. He told me her concern. I could have made a big deal about it--but, from a security standpoint it was better that I go along with the program (considering it was a total of 3 of them and only me with my pants off). So I happy agreed to the extra charge. Needless to say, I never went back to that lower class YS. Also, in the class A YS, you would never have this problem.

In Class B and lower YS, they may refuse service to you by saying "no girl" before you get half way up th stairs (as they can see you coming up on the cameras). No girl means they do not want a non Chinese guy fucking their girls because some Chinese girls say non-Chinese guys have big dicks. The truth is, some Chinese girls just have much smaller pussies (these are the girls I like). And any dick longer than 1 inch is big to them. In a Class B or lower YS, I have been refused service--but it does not bother me and it should not bother you. As I mentioned above, simply stick with the Class A YS outlets.

If you stick with the Class A YS and go by the recommendations listed on this site, you will not have a problem. If you are new to HK, I would avoid walking the streets of Mong Kok and trying different YS that have not been recommended here if you are concerned about being safe. Also, avoid the pimps walking the streets offering girls if you are concerned about being safe.

Why would anyone still want to try a class B or lower YS. Well, the girls at these YS are generally younger, the pimps supply an ever changing offering of girls, the price can be as low as 200HK for a flip, as low as 260 for a Chinese girl, and sometimes you get lucky and find a real GFE on the cheap, it has happened to me on a few occasions in the past.

If you are not concerned about your safety and you are use to trying new sex places in Asia and you know how to handle yourself, then by all means take an adventure and try different YS in Mong Kok. I have done this over the years. But, if I do not like the feel or look of the YS, I will not go in.

I work in the financial district on HK island but prefer to live in Mong Kok because Mong Kok is a fun place with lots of people, cheap food, a ton of good looking Chinese girls to bang for very little money, cheap cloths, cheap housing, and a lot of regular Chinese girls walking around. I love Chinese women so being in Mong Kok, I always see a ton of lovely Chinese women. I meet my current live in Chinese girlfriend in Mong Kok and she is a regular HK girl that works for an insurance company. In the time I have lived in Mong Kok, I have never had a problem or been in fear. Note that there are always police walking around so you should feel safe.

When I have a chance, I will visit new YS that are listed on the website man169 and report on the ones I think can be considered Class A.

OVERALL: Recommended YS are safe and enjoyable! The great thing about the Class A YS are that the price is low--from 360 to 500HK for about 50 minutes for sex from a nice looking and GFE Chinese girl. It is by far the best value in HK for sex.

Undercoverh, you raised lots of great points....just a few corrections about your post....

First, 37 Dundas is not considered a "YS" brothel. Yes, there is a big yellow 390 sign high above Dundas Street. But YS really refers to the yellow handwritten signs on doorways of many brothals common in western Mongkok, those you refer to as "Class B" joints. It's unfair to refer to 37 Dundas and K-Pressure as a YS -- or even consider them remotely similar to the "Class B" joints.

As for the "Class B" places (which I'll simply refer to as a YS from this point forth), it's untrue that providers and papasans have "very little or no quality control". For myself, papasans have frequently inquired on the level of service I've obtained. (I am Asian and speak Chinese so naturally, they may be more open with me than you.) They need this feedback to determine whether to call the girl again. As you know, YS girls don't work for any specific brothal. They're more like independent contractors who roam the streets waiting for a referral. If their performance consistantly sucks, they don't get contracted again. Perhaps the papasans don't ask you to rate the girl because they lack English proficiency. After all, these are triad guys who dropped out of school.

But you're right about 37 Dundas. They've always delivered. It's just incorrect to say that YS joints have little concern or control over quality.

As for dick size, you've fallen prey to the oldest mongering trick in the book. It has nothing to do with your size. It has everything to do with you being foreign. Since I speak Chinese, I've asked providers about this. Many girls, especially the 141 ones, will automatically raise the price for non-Chinese. If they can get away with it, they will. It's called capitalism -- and Hong Kongers are damn good at it. They use penis size only as an excuse. Since most guys are flattered at being called "big", they tend not to object.

As for a YS papasan saying "no girl" to you, it's not because they don't want a white guy to fuck their girls. If you read those handwritten YS signs, most contains English (often horribly misspelled). So clearly, they have no problem with white patrons. They refused you because some papasans are paranoid and think you might attract police attention. The last thing they want is some tourist raising a fit and calling the cops. I'd say that's rare. But when a papasan gets stricken with paranoia, I can see why they'd be more likely to refuse a non-Chinese.

As for safety, there is nothing unsafe about that part of Mongkok. There are only two blocks seperating 37 Dundas from the YS epicenter on Portland Street. Don't tell me two blocks would have such a dramatic difference on street safety.

Overall, you did raise lots of interesting points. For myself, the best reason to hit a YS joint is the seediness, uncertainy and (of course) the low price. 37 Dundas is great, but it's becoming too predictable. If you go there enough, you see the same group of girls. Sometimes, you just want a rush and try something new. The army of girls at the YS joints are almost infinite in size and fresh ones cross the border illegally everyday. And once in a while, you get a naive girl who's a true amateur and seems to actually appreciate the new physical experience. I've exchange phone numbers with a handful of them before. That never happens at established places like 37 Dundas who are staffed by seasoned professionals.

i must say i thought undercover outlined very succintly for those who are not 99% in the know how ys's, or even, heaven forbid 'ys's work.

in response, ff did a very good job of splitting irrelevant hairs; hope he's as good wi beavers is all i can say.

the a and b pricing and qa system that undie outlined made a lot of sense and clarified many issues for us non-dickly challenged round eyes.

no offence, ff, but give undie his due. it was a very useful posting by undie and was not really augmented by your -- rather obfurep001ing -- 'clarification'.

js

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]If you stick with the Class A YS and go by the recommendations listed on this site, you will not have a problem. If you are new to HK, I would avoid walking the streets of Mong Kok and trying different YS that have not been recommended here if you are concerned about being safe. Also, avoid the pimps walking the streets offering girls if you are concerned about being safe.[/QUOTE]Why do you believe streetwalkers are unsafe? Is that from experience or from stories you hear?

I saw some very hot hot young streetwalkers and got approached by the pimp when he saw me looking at her. I didn't try because I did not know how safe it was. Was I being paranoid?

Monday. I leave work at 6pm and head to wanchai with the mission to explore the gogo bars and the karaoke bar of the area. Time is tight with a dead line of 7. 45pm to leave. So I walk the line on Lookhard, and firstly dive into laguna and then New Makiti for an eye opener. Both places are empty although in Laguna I do spy a few new girls in town. One is jumping up and down on the side in a way that makes me think she is straight off the boat and ready for action. She's not gotten hard yet, at least not on this trip. Two large Russian waters later and I'm ready for the trials to begin.

I walk straight out of Makiti and into Waikiki which is next door. This is the gogo with all the chicks in black micro skirts, red tops, and thigh high leather boots. 5 girls sit with me as I am the only bloke in there. No naughtiness but just a nice chat with them. Buy two girls drinks having done a competition along the lines of "in ten words than less, complete the sentence "I deserve a drink because" ". I thought this would cue them to be dirty and rude and suggestive at least, but with only 3 of the 5 answering saying "because I earn money from the drinks and am poor". The two girls are really cute though, and easily a 9/10 in my eyes. One 20, the other 23. Both said they would leave, but meeting at lunchtime was out. Bar bill $300.

I leave, and head back to the GOGO I had been in before. I walked round the corner past Joe Bananas (sausage fest. Must be a convention in town). And again saw an absolute stunner walking along the road. Yet again, this chick dives into the Karaoke bar and I follow her straight in. Met mamasan at the bottom and there is a bar there with about 15 chicks. This bird is there, and is the best looking easily. The rest range between 5-7 / 10 but with her and another being clear 10's. Spoke with mama and got the crack. $400 for an hour including drinks, karaoke and girls company. You can take out but that is another conversation. I head out with 30 minutes to go, cross the road and into the Dragon Bar which is under Laguna on the right hand side.

Walk in. Mamasan is there and asks who I would like to buy a drink for. I buy her a drink and tell her I have 30 minutes. Take your pick my son she says so I smoke a tab and watch the pure grade A 10 stunner in stockings and panties dancing on the stage. "She's cute". Instantly she's next to me, no hand on my crotch but I buy her a drink anyway (total spend at this point $220). She moves me over to a booth in the corner and gets her tits out, and as I fondle them she's grabbing my cock. Then she unzips, gets it out and starts sucking me off there right in the bar with me looking at the girls on stage all smiling at me. She stops. Buy another drinking please? Sure, and keep sucking. I'm rubbing her pussy and have a finger in now, and she's squriming. "You want to fuck me? " yeah. Get on board. "no, can't here" why not "not allowed". Well get on top and we will pretend for a bit. She does, and my cock slides straight in with my digit up her tights ass.

Stops. Another drink. She goes back to sucking, and then gets on board again for a bit longer. Not allowed to cum in the place apparently. Yeah right. Another drink? "you let me cum and you swallow the lot and you get a Tequilla" I say. Fine. Shes sucking good now, and I cum huge choking wad into her mouth. I order the Tequilla and mama says "are you sure? Why not get her the cheap drink". Well, I buy the expensive one anyway.

Total fee $1155 and no I do not feel ripped off. This was one of the most high fueled erotic fucks and BJs I've had and she was stunning. Never seen better in the clubs around there and all whilst 5 really hnot chicks were looking me in the eye and smiling. She will leave the bar (barfine) and do everything including anal ("I will oil my tight ass for you and you can fuck me hard right? ").

I will explore the other ones later in the week but need a wing man for the karaoke bar. Need to find one.

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[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Undercoverh, you raised lots of great points....just a few corrections about your post....

First, 37 Dundas is not considered a "YS" brothel. Yes, there is a big yellow 390 sign high above Dundas Street. But YS really refers to the yellow handwritten signs on doorways of many brothals common in western Mongkok, those you refer to as "Class B" joints. It's unfair to refer to 37 Dundas and K-Pressure as a YS -- or even consider them remotely similar to the "Class B" joints.

As for the "Class B" places (which I'll simply refer to as a YS from this point forth), it's untrue that providers and papasans have "very little or no quality control". For myself, papasans have frequently inquired on the level of service I've obtained. (I am Asian and speak Chinese so naturally, they may be more open with me than you.) They need this feedback to determine whether to call the girl again. As you know, YS girls don't work for any specific brothal. They're more like independent contractors who roam the streets waiting for a referral. If their performance consistantly sucks, they don't get contracted again. Perhaps the papasans don't ask you to rate the girl because they lack English proficiency. After all, these are triad guys who dropped out of school.

But you're right about 37 Dundas. They've always delivered. It's just incorrect to say that YS joints have little concern or control over quality.

As for dick size, you've fallen prey to the oldest mongering trick in the book. It has nothing to do with your size. It has everything to do with you being foreign. Since I speak Chinese, I've asked providers about this. Many girls, especially the 141 ones, will automatically raise the price for non-Chinese. If they can get away with it, they will. It's called capitalism -- and Hong Kongers are damn good at it. They use penis size only as an excuse. Since most guys are flattered at being called "big", they tend not to object.

As for a YS papasan saying "no girl" to you, it's not because they don't want a white guy to fuck their girls. If you read those handwritten YS signs, most contains English (often horribly misspelled). So clearly, they have no problem with white patrons. They refused you because some papasans are paranoid and think you might attract police attention. The last thing they want is some tourist raising a fit and calling the cops. I'd say that's rare. But when a papasan gets stricken with paranoia, I can see why they'd be more likely to refuse a non-Chinese.

As for safety, there is nothing unsafe about that part of Mongkok. There are only two blocks seperating 37 Dundas from the YS epicenter on Portland Street. Don't tell me two blocks would have such a dramatic difference on street safety.

Overall, you did raise lots of interesting points. For myself, the best reason to hit a YS joint is the seediness, uncertainy and (of course) the low price. 37 Dundas is great, but it's becoming too predictable. If you go there enough, you see the same group of girls. Sometimes, you just want a rush and try something new. The army of girls at the YS joints are almost infinite in size and fresh ones cross the border illegally everyday. And once in a while, you get a naive girl who's a true amateur and seems to actually appreciate the new physical experience. I've exchange phone numbers with a handful of them before. That never happens at established places like 37 Dundas who are staffed by seasoned professionals.[/QUOTE]



Often times in life, people will take their opinions and present them as facts--when in fact, it is simply their opinion. The information you presented is simply your OPINION based on your experiences--nothing more, nothing less. Likewise, the information I have presented is simply my OPINION based on my experiences. Neither of us are right or wrong, it is simply we have different opinions based on our different experiences. However, a few brief corrections are needed on my part regarding some of your comments.

1.
Your comments: "First, 37 Dundas is not considered a "YS" brothel. Yes, there is a big yellow 390 sign high above Dundas Street. But YS really refers to the yellow handwritten signs on doorways of many brothals common in western Mongkok"

My response: In the old days, us old timers (expats that have been in HK going back 10 plus years) referred to YS as any place that had a yellow lighted sign or a yellow handwritten sign. If you would like focus on the yellow lighted sign vs. yellow paper, be my guess. The bottom line is they both offer the same thing--sex for sale.

2.
Your comments: "Those you refer to as "Class B" joints. It's unfair to refer to 37 Dundas and K-Pressure as a YS -- or even consider them remotely similar to the "Class B" joints."

My reponse: To clarify, I simply made-up the Class A vs. Class B and lower to make a point. The point being, there is a difference between particular groups of YS outlets. If you prefer to classify them differently, that is fine based on your opinion, that is up to you.

3.
Your comments: "I am Asian and speak Chinese so naturally, they may be more open with me than you."

My reponse: Oh really, this really makes your "big brother" laugh!! Why, because I am half Chinese and half Jewish American. I was born in Kunming, China and I am an American citizen because of my father. I also hold a Chinese passport. I grew up in Kunming and only went to American to attend collage and grad school. I worked in American for several years then returned to Asia. Needless to say, I speak and write Mandarin and I speak a little Cantonese. Therefore, your statement is completely wrong.

3.
Your comments: "As for dick size, you've fallen prey to the oldest mongering trick in the book. It has nothing to do with your size. It has everything to do with you being foreign."

My reponse: Your assumption in my case is wrong again. As mentioned above, I am mixed--however--I am 6'2". Yap, when they see me, they think BIG!

I have read the remainder of your comments and I could provide additional corrections. However, in the interest of being brief and in an effort not to bore the other readers, I will not respond any further.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]
I have read the remainder of your comments and I could provide additional corrections. However, in the interest of being brief and in an effort not to bore the other readers, I will not respond any further.[/QUOTE]

Earlier today, I nominated your original post to the Report of Distinction. Good job ;)

[quote=john smart]i must say i thought undercover outlined very succintly for those who are not 99% in the know how ys's, or even, heaven forbid 'ys's work.

in response, ff did a very good job of splitting irrelevant hairs; hope he's as good wi beavers is all i can say.

the a and b pricing and qa system that undie outlined made a lot of sense and clarified many issues for us non-dickly challenged round eyes.

no offence, ff, but give undie his due. it was a very useful posting by undie and was not really augmented by your -- rather obfurep001ing -- 'clarification'.

js[/quote]

thanks for your comments which are consistent with the purpose of my post. simply stated, i try to present helpful information based on my experiences in the form of narrative opinions. in the future, when i provide info, i may need to provide a disclaimer that reads, "the information provided is based on my opinion and experiences, your mileage may vary." ; - )

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Earlier today, I nominated your original post to the Report of Distinction. Good job ;)[/QUOTE]


Gee, thanks. I appreciate your comments.

Wow, what's with the defensiveness?! Feels like I'm at a sports bar when patrons have had a few too many pints.

I already stated you did a good job with your post. I simply added some observations which, of course, contains points of view that may differ from the experiences of others. I doubt any reasonable person would think I was being offensive or condescending.

Why not just chill out and have a good time and not turn this forum into the next Obama v McCain debate?

[QUOTE=Timewaster]Why do you believe streetwalkers are unsafe? Is that from experience or from stories you hear?

I saw some very hot hot young streetwalkers and got approached by the pimp when he saw me looking at her. I didn't try because I did not know how safe it was. Was I being paranoid?[/QUOTE]


Yap, I agree, some of those young girls look hot!!! And no, you are not being paranoid. Let's consider the streetwalker/pimp situation for a moment. When you agree to take the girl while you are standing on the street, what happens next? Normally, the girl will walk ahead of you and the pimp will walk behind you and you will follow the girl to an unknown building and to an unknown room (assuming they are not taking you to a YS). What is wrong with this situation:

In my opinion, here are the problems for you to consider:

1.
Pimping is illegal in HK. So if the cops are watching you while the transaction takes place, you will be taking a ride to the police station. Bare in mind, on occasion, there are uncover cops in Mong Kok.

2.
Personally, I do not want to follow a guy and girl into an unknown building to an unknown floor, and then to an unknown room--who else is waiting in the room when I get there?

3.
I practice safe sex in more ways then one. I will not put myself in a potentially unsafe situation just to obtain sex. Some guys have failed to follow this simple rule and have had trouble.

Of course, this is just my opinion. And of course, some guys have used pimps walking the streets offering girls and never had a problem. I am sure there are some guys on this site that will tell you there is nothing wrong with using pimps and they do it all the time. Bottom line--it is really up to you to balance the sex vs. risk factor.

The only firm advice I can give to help you stay safe is, if you don't feel good about the situation, avoid it. Especially when there are so many safer outlets for sex in HK.

ok, i'll describe how the mongkok brothel systems work with some photos for illustration...

hong kong has no official "red light district". the closest thing we have is situated in western mongkok, just west of nathan rd. in that area, you have hundreds of yellow sign brothels (ys), saunas and karaoke bars – all operated by hong kong's gentle underworld. i say “gentle” because physical crime remains extremely rare in the city.

today, i'll speak exclusively about the ys’s.

the epicenter of ys activity is on the corner of soy and shanghai street. if you stand on that corner, there are about 30 ys's within a five-minute walking distance. at all hours of the day, but particularly during late evenings, you'll find streetwalkers parading randomly on the streets. the volume of activity differs wildly from night-to-night. one night, it looks like they're holding tryouts for a vegas strip show. other nights, it's dead as a doornail. so your viewing experience will vary.

one important thing to know. do not solicit the girls while they're on the streets. “soliciting for an immoral purpose" is an offense. and there are plenty of cops in the area.

instead, if a provider strikes your fancy, you simply follow her until she darts into one of the ys's. she goes into a ys because 1) she's been called by a papasan to appear in a lineup for another patron or 2) it gives you the opportunity to follow her. hence, the girls are not employed by the ys's. girls work as independent contractors who rely on referrals from the papasans. and the dozens of ys's in the vicinity draw from the same pool of providers. so it doesn’t matter which ys you enter. one is not going to have hotter girls than the next. the only difference is the décor, which i'll talk about later....

if you follow her, you'll navigate an intimidating and slimy flight of stairs into a lobby. once you're in the lobby, you'll see something like this...

[url]http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2219202820090482941ssuxxk[/url]

there are usually a couple of triad guys playing cards or video games. despite their affiliation with vice, they're usually very accommodating. they need you more than you need them, and they know that. you simply point to the girl you've just followed up the stairs. they will quote a price, usually in the vicinity of $350. they will then invite you into a room.

while you're walking towards the room, you’ll see something similar to this:

[url]http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2148423300090482941nwpjlp[/url]

once inside, you'll find that the room is about half the size a college dormitory. it's barely large enough for a bed and showering facilities. there may be porno showing on a small television. you will shower, do the deed and pay the papasan as you exit. the standard maximum time you have with the girl is 45 minutes.

what you get from the provider varies drastically. bbbj is on the table about 75% of the time. daty is permitted about 40%. anal is pretty rare. the accommodations are pretty drab (watch out for that cum-stained sheet from the previous patron). and just outside, beyond those flimsy doors, are a pack of scummy triad people. but one great reason to visit these ys's is the amateur status of many of the providers. some have just recently arrived from some god-forsaken village in china to work in hong kong because of <insert sob story here>. so you have fresh meat and real people, not hardened professionals. sometimes, they get lonely, open up and even offer to exchange phone numbers. i'm not saying this happens frequently, but it happens on about 10% of my visits. of course, speaking chinese is a requirement for this level of interaction.

the golden age of the ys's seems to have passed though. just up the street, you'll see two gleaming skyscrapers. that's the langham hotel and entertainment complex, a multi-billion dollar project responsible for the gentrification of western mongkok. with the structures illuminating the area, triads can no longer ply their trade in the shadows. so the ys business is only a fraction of what it once was. before langham, a vast majority of the ys providers are illegals who flee at the sight of police. today, many of them are in the territory on legitimate visas. so you have less of those naïve little 19 year old country gals who may still derive pleasure from being touched. still, ys’s offers a great bargain for mongerers and a thrill for adventure-seekers.

next, i’ll talk about the streetstanders in mongkong (also with photos)…

Furry:
These are some of the best examples of what can be seen on the streets. Almost all of them would be mre than acceptable. Great album.
Did you take them?
'bare

Arrived HK 8. 20pm, checked in to Royal Plaza Hotel by 9. 30pm (after catching MTR to East Mong Kok station) out the door to 37 Dundas by 9. 45m. Take a hotel business card, ask the concierge to write 37 Dundas in Chinese, bobs your uncle. Small Hong Kong girl less than 5 foot tall, small pert breasts, I can put my hands around the top of her thighs. Cute, 8/9, not a word of English but laughs and giggles all the time.

BBBJ in the shower after cleaning and playing with my bits, access to all her areas. On to the bed and DFK followed by AR for an extended time, DATY. Mish for a bit of pounding then pull off the cover for CIM. Don’t you just love this country?

Will be in HK for the next week and will try out some of the other sites and locations mentioned by members. For the first time since the divorce, want to try the nightclub scene. I know it’s still P4P but long time out of the picture and want to try and have a bit of fun. Maybe a Philli or Indo or who knows?

N3801

Dear all,

Will stay in the 4 seasons hotel this week end. Is this hotel girl friendly ? Any chance to find any activity inside (at the bar...)

Thanks in advance for your feedbacks

[QUOTE=Jim Daili]Dear all,

Will stay in the 4 seasons hotel this week end. Is this hotel girl friendly ? Any chance to find any activity inside (at the bar...)

Thanks in advance for your feedbacks[/QUOTE]You should not have any problems bringing in girls. Don't make it too obvious or it will be awkward, but it is unlikely that anyone will say anything to you.

I have never seen any action at the bar, but Wanchai is only a 5 minute cab ride away.

I was at Gam Sing, 141 Portland, a few days ago -- one of the 'A' grade YSs that Undercover was referring to.

I was chatting to the mama there, Nancy. She said one of my 'friends' had been around, saying Hi to John. And that he'd be back. Dunno who it was but Hi! anyway.

Nancy mentioned someone had asked about taking girls out, which has been raised here before, and I dunno if we had an answer. Gam Sing is a $490 place ($390+$100 room charge). Nancy confirmed that to take a girl out 'for 10 hours" -- ie, overnight -- is 3 times the single rate charge, so about $1,500. Plus you then arrange a private tip with whatever you feel the girl is worth.

I've been to Gam Sing twice recently, and the place is good: newly done out, clean, attentive (as always) girls. Like K-Pressure it has an air mattress in the wash room. And I had such a good time with Man Man last time, that when the timeup phone call came, we hadnt managed to make it out of the wash room! :-)

JS

[QUOTE=LuvumBare]Furry:
These are some of the best examples of what can be seen on the streets. Almost all of them would be mre than acceptable. Great album.
Did you take them?
'bare[/QUOTE]

No, I didn't take them...but I've certainly been in each of those places featured in the photos. This album appeared on another forum about a year ago. They bring back great memories!

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When we talk about "yellow signs" (YS), these photos shows what it usually refers to. It's handwritten signs with prices and the girl's ethnicity. The first photo also shows the grimy flight of stairs you must climb to ascend into sexual heaven.

[url]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2328603123_43aff9b39f.jpg[/url]

[url]http://flickr.com/photos/down_under_images/567707764/[/url]

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Some "yellow signs" aren't handwritten, like these ones. These are YS's with a real budget to spend on a sign.

[url]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05FK2Vr1zVh2H/340x.jpg[/url]

[url]http://flickr.com/photos/13598666@N07/1582742232/[/url]

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And to add to the confusion, some "yellow signs" brothels don't have yellow signs. In these photos, they're green and pink.

[url]http://flickr.com/photos/christopherdewolf/2328603457/[/url]

[url]http://www.riverofinnocents.com/images/chernush/image_2_640.jpg[/url]

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Here's what fucked up the YS industry. This structure, Langham Place, was completed just 3-4 years ago. The YS epicenter is just south of those structures, on the corner of Soy and Shanghai Street.

[url]http://www.southtravels.com/asia/hongkong/langhamplace/gifs/map.jpg[/url]

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Some views of the YS lobby. Pretty drab and dingy, kinda like a hostel in a third world country. But that adds to the excitement!

[url]http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2405013480090482941dhQQjZ[/url]

[url]http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2880315640090482941EQdtte[/url]

[url]http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2995801230090482941WAXUqa[/url]

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This is what it looks like when a patron follows a girl up the stairs, as I've recommended. Just looking at this photo, I can already feel my heart pound with anticipation. Usually, I would stalk my prey for atleast an hour on the streets below before deciding on following her up. It would feel surreal that, in just five minutes, you'll be banging her after all that stalking.

[url]http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2322035960090482941KbJPTP[/url]

hi guys,

posting my first report ever on isg.

was my first time visiting hkg last week and tried a hotel res girl from 141, you can find her listing on the 141 website

name: sam
from: prc, chongqing, sichuan
face: 8/10 (resembles her pics on 141, 90%)
body: 8/10 slim with curves in the right places
boobs: c-cup
skill: 7/10 (she's new apparently, first day on the job)
service: 8/10 (playful, willing to accomodate)

details:

was bored in the hotel after a round of meetings, so decided to call for a girl to see what the local flavor is like

called the number listed on 141 and spoke to the papasan, who said sam was available and could come to my hotel or i could go to hers. he quoted 900hkd and additional 100hkd for taxi fare since i decided to ask her to come over to save myself from trekking around hk in the hot afternoon since it was my first time in town. the papa was pretty polite and asked me for my hotel number and room, and called me at the room to confirm i was there. he said sam would arrive in about 45 minutes.

had a smoke while waiting for her to arrive, and she arrived about ten minutes late. i looked through the peephole and saw a beauty standing outside waiting for me to let her in.

my first impression was that she looked really good in her tight white shirt and short skirt, and it got better after she took off her shirt to reveal her large breasts that were trying to spring out of her bra.

she greeted me with a big smile and we made small talk before going for a shower together. i took the time to appreciate her great figure and she was a little shy while she washed me, maybe cause it's her first day on the job (according to her).

after shower we immediately got started on the action, she had me lie down on the bed while she started licking my nipples and stroking my didi with her hand. before long, out came the cap and she began to cbj, boy does she have some skills for someone who only just started working today. i had half a mind to ask her what she used to work as in chongqing but i chose to enjoyed her oral skills instead.

i lost track of time as she moved her lips and tongue over my didi and soon she started riding me on top, her moans were like stereo speakers and very loud, i was worried the neighbors in the room next door would come knock on my door very soon! she came twice while on top and we switched between mish and doggy. i had to control myself to not shoot too soon, but i finally came after 20 minutes of hard fucking, and i jokingly told her that maybe she could leave me a tip since she came more than me.

it was a very gfe and she did not rush to finish, would definitely recommend any bros in hkg to give her a try before she goes back to china.

don't quote whole post unnecessarily.

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[QUOTE=Jim Daili]Will stay in the 4 seasons hotel this week end. Is this hotel girl friendly ? Any chance to find any activity inside (at the bar...)

Thanks in advance for your feedbacks[/QUOTE]

No one ever asks questions, but obviously you need to escort her up as the elevators are key-access only. Also, the wine/cigar bar seems to have groups of girls sitting around, but not sure they are working girls? I actually suspect they are but never engaged them. Much better talent elsewhere around HK/Kowloon.

[QUOTE=Lilsheep]hi guys,

Posting my first report ever on ISG.

Was my first time visiting hkg last week and tried a hotel res girl from 141, you can find her listing on the 141 website

Name: Sam
From: PRC, Chongqing, Sichuan
Face: 8/10 (resembles her pics on 141, 90%)
Body: 8/10 Slim with curves in the right places
Boobs: C-cup
Skill: 7/10 (she's new apparently, first day on the job)
Service: 8/10 (playful, willing to accomodate)
...[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your long report.

I just went onto the 141 site and no one named "Sam" is listed there. There are 3 girls named "Sammi" (a common name in HK cuz there's a well-known female singer named Sammi) but none of them are hotel reservation girls.

Maybe you wore her out on her first day? :D

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Thanks for your long report.

I just went onto the 141 site and no one named "Sam" is listed there. There are 3 girls named "Sammi" (a common name in HK cuz there's a well-known female singer named Sammi) but none of them are hotel reservation girls.

Maybe you wore her out on her first day? :D[/QUOTE]I hope not! She told me she was planning to stay for a week this trip then do the re-entry thing from Shenzhen after. No loss, there are other fish in the ocean :D Check my following report.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Thanks for your long report.

I just went onto the 141 site and no one named "Sam" is listed there. There are 3 girls named "Sammi" (a common name in HK cuz there's a well-known female singer named Sammi) but none of them are hotel reservation girls.

Maybe you wore her out on her first day? :D[/QUOTE]I sure hope not! She mentioned that she intends to stay for a week, then do the re-entry thing again from Shenzhen, maybe she didn't manage to come back to HK. No loss, there's plenty of fish in the ocean :D Check my following report.

Visited Fenwicks last night, I got there early about 9.00 and the place was quite with only half a dozen girls there. The staff was helpful and talkative and then more people started to arrive and the place started to get interesting. Two girls started talking to me and I learned they were both from Vietnam one, doing most of the talking was 5 at the most, the other maybe a 7. I’m sure they gave me the spiel that they give everyone else and asked me all the normal questions. I got the cuter ones number for later (maybe).

As the place started to fill I found it funny that just as other members said, different nationalities would congregate in different areas. The numbers of Columbians was impressive, with their South American backsides even more impressive. Russians and different types of Asians all on show. I was surrounded by Philippians while sitting in the Columbian camp (boy do they have attitude). Copped numerous hand full’s and had the bits felt up lots so that was fun.

Going there for a perv was an experience and I talked to a few of the Philippians and the asking price at 11.00 was HK$ 1500 for two hours and 3 hours later this was down to HK$1000 for the night.

Still couldn’t bring myself to try but I think the experience was worth repeating just for people watching.

Beers weren’t too expensive, a pint of Chinese beer Chian Tao (I think that’s it) was HK$ 40 but the ladies drinks were a surprise. That tequila rock and roll was stupid, but as other members have stated the girls make money from them. I met one of their agents too, that talk was interesting.

It’s easy to find, just take the MTR to the Wan Chai station then the Lockhart exit (Exit “C” I think). Turn left as you hit Lockhart and 2 blocks down on the opposite side near the corner of Lockhart and Fenwick.

Just curious, any other members there last night?

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[QUOTE=John Smart]I was at Gam Sing, 141 Portland, a few days ago -- one of the 'A' grade YSs that Undercover was referring to.

I was chatting to the mama there, Nancy. She said one of my 'friends' had been around, saying Hi to John. And that he'd be back. Dunno who it was but Hi! anyway.

Nancy mentioned someone had asked about taking girls out, which has been raised here before, and I dunno if we had an answer. Gam Sing is a $490 place ($390+$100 room charge). Nancy confirmed that to take a girl out 'for 10 hours" -- ie, overnight -- is 3 times the single rate charge, so about $1,500. Plus you then arrange a private tip with whatever you feel the girl is worth.

I've been to Gam Sing twice recently, and the place is good: newly done out, clean, attentive (as always) girls. Like K-Pressure it has an air mattress in the wash room. And I had such a good time with Man Man last time, that when the timeup phone call came, we hadnt managed to make it out of the wash room! :-)

JS[/QUOTE]


Great report! It is very helpful to members that you have checked out this recommended YS (Gam Sing) and confirmed that it is a "Class A" YS. Your report will save members a lot time by going directly to the best/recommended yellow signs and not playing the hit and miss game, with the lower class YS, resulting in wasted time.

Hopefully, more members will check out YS and report back on the best whcih can be added to the Class A list. So far, the list has 5 Class A YS.

[QUOTE=Akka76]Monday. I leave work at 6pm and head to wanchai with the mission to explore the gogo bars and the karaoke bar of the area. Time is tight with a dead line of 7. 45pm to leave. So I walk the line on Lookhard, and firstly dive into laguna and then New Makiti for an eye opener. Both places are empty although in Laguna I do spy a few new girls in town. One is jumping up and down on the side in a way that makes me think she is straight off the boat and ready for action. She's not gotten hard yet, at least not on this trip. Two large Russian waters later and I'm ready for the trials to begin.

I walk straight out of Makiti and into Waikiki which is next door. This is the gogo with all the chicks in black micro skirts, red tops, and thigh high leather boots. 5 girls sit with me as I am the only bloke in there. No naughtiness but just a nice chat with them. Buy two girls drinks having done a competition along the lines of "in ten words than less, complete the sentence "I deserve a drink because" ". I thought this would cue them to be dirty and rude and suggestive at least, but with only 3 of the 5 answering saying "because I earn money from the drinks and am poor". The two girls are really cute though, and easily a 9/10 in my eyes. One 20, the other 23. Both said they would leave, but meeting at lunchtime was out. Bar bill $300.

I leave, and head back to the GOGO I had been in before. I walked round the corner past Joe Bananas (sausage fest. Must be a convention in town). And again saw an absolute stunner walking along the road. Yet again, this chick dives into the Karaoke bar and I follow her straight in. Met mamasan at the bottom and there is a bar there with about 15 chicks. This bird is there, and is the best looking easily. The rest range between 5-7 / 10 but with her and another being clear 10's. Spoke with mama and got the crack. $400 for an hour including drinks, karaoke and girls company. You can take out but that is another conversation. I head out with 30 minutes to go, cross the road and into the Dragon Bar which is under Laguna on the right hand side.

Walk in. Mamasan is there and asks who I would like to buy a drink for. I buy her a drink and tell her I have 30 minutes. Take your pick my son she says so I smoke a tab and watch the pure grade A 10 stunner in stockings and panties dancing on the stage. "She's cute". Instantly she's next to me, no hand on my crotch but I buy her a drink anyway (total spend at this point $220). She moves me over to a booth in the corner and gets her tits out, and as I fondle them she's grabbing my cock. Then she unzips, gets it out and starts sucking me off there right in the bar with me looking at the girls on stage all smiling at me. She stops. Buy another drinking please? Sure, and keep sucking. I'm rubbing her pussy and have a finger in now, and she's squriming. "You want to fuck me? " yeah. Get on board. "no, can't here" why not "not allowed". Well get on top and we will pretend for a bit. She does, and my cock slides straight in with my digit up her tights ass.

Stops. Another drink. She goes back to sucking, and then gets on board again for a bit longer. Not allowed to cum in the place apparently. Yeah right. Another drink? "you let me cum and you swallow the lot and you get a Tequilla" I say. Fine. Shes sucking good now, and I cum huge choking wad into her mouth. I order the Tequilla and mama says "are you sure? Why not get her the cheap drink". Well, I buy the expensive one anyway.

Total fee $1155 and no I do not feel ripped off. This was one of the most high fueled erotic fucks and BJs I've had and she was stunning. Never seen better in the clubs around there and all whilst 5 really hnot chicks were looking me in the eye and smiling. She will leave the bar (barfine) and do everything including anal ("I will oil my tight ass for you and you can fuck me hard right? ").

I will explore the other ones later in the week but need a wing man for the karaoke bar. Need to find one.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Great report mate on the go go bar scene. I know it is not most people's favourite because of the cost but I really enjoy them.

BTW what was the name of the karaoke bar where you saw the two 10's ?

Hi members,

Thanks for the info reagrding where to stay and where to get willing girls. I just came from Dundas and everything was as great as posted here. I will post a detailed report once back home.

All said and done, I have had two girls from 141 website in Mong Kok, in the same building 3 minutes from MTR station, and both experiences cost 400 HKD.

I tried a YS and left with a big smile on my face! It was at 460 Shanghai st, in Mong Kok, just two blocks from Dundas, it has abutterfly painted on the sign board, the papasan told me the great girl I had is girl number 41. I would recommend her and all was for 450HKD.

More detailed reports to come, just wish I was here longer,but I leave tomorrow.

LM

On my way home the other day, I stopped at street news stand in Mong Kok and picked up two Chinese magazines that advertise YS. The mags also had pics of the girls (with their face hidden) and other info. From the pics, some girls look younger than others (i.e., sag tits vs. no sag tits). Some of the girls bodies look hot!

With more than a few hundred YS in HK, the magazine only had only about 8 ads with about 10 pics of girls per ad. I am making the assumption that if a YS goes through the trouble of posting an ad (in two different mags plus on the website man169), they may try to provide a higher level of service than the average YS and have a good selection of girls........this is just my half ass opinion and I have no facts to back it up.

For guys who want to have an adventure and try new YS but don't know which place to start with, the listings below from the ad may be helpful and a good place to start. For those guys who try the ones listed, hopefully, they provide a report and rating. Since I have a live-in girlfriend, it is not possible for me to have a chance to try new YS (unless she takes a trip to mainland China to visit family). I have also added a a few saunas to the list that had ads.

DISCLAIMER: Note that I have NOT visited these YS and thus I cannot give a rating. The information comes directly from the mag. I make no claims or assurances regarding the level of service provided, the decor, the tightness of pussies offered, level of wetness, your mileage may vary,.....yada, yada, yada.... I think you get the idea.

IMPORTANT NOTE: If you want to visit these YS, or any place in HK for that matter, you can do so in the comfort of a taxi. In fact, you can get door to door service from your hotel directly to the front door of the YS. Simply go to the front desk of your hotel, tell them you have a business meeting and give them the address, have them translate the English address to Chinese. Then take the translated address and give it to the taxi driver.

Some hotels will get a taxi and bring it to the front door of the hotel. Simply give the taxi driver the address written in Chinese and off you go. I am including this tip because I read about guys who write, "I was walking and I could not find the address." On your first trip to a new YS, why not let the taxi driver do all the hard work and find the place for you. When he pulls up in front of the YS, he will have a big smile on his face because he knows you will soon be a happy man!

YS Ad list:
1.
The girls pics for this YS look hot and look around early to mid 20s.
685 Shanghai (after Bute st.), 370HK open 11 am to 6am the next morning.
phone 23811130

2.
The girls for this YS look around mid 20s and look pretty good.
311 Portland (just before Mong Kok street). 370 50m, phone 23976655

3.
639 Shanghai 3rd floor (after Argyle st.). 390HK, 50minutes, open from 11 am to 7 am the next morning. phone 23967994

4.
Golden Cumming, 310 Portland (just before Mong Kok st). 370HK 45minutes, open 11am to 6am, phone 23989307

5.
392a-394 Portland st, 2nd Fl., (past Prince Edward Rd), 370HK 45m, open 11am to 6am. phone 23950333

6.
398 Portland, 360 45m, phone 23945892

7.
673 Shanghai (after Argyle st) 360 45 min. ph. 23928087

8.
4-6 Tai Nan st (after Prince Edward Road) 370HK, 45 min., open 11am to 6am

Sauna List:
I am not a sauna type of guy so I rarely visit them. You may like them so this information may be helpful. For those of you who do not know anything about saunas, the basic idea is you get a massage for around 300HK and you can get or upgrade to massage and sex for around 600HK to 900HK total. Most of the time you CANNOT pick your girl. The girl is assigned to you. Some saunas offer food, internet, tv, and other minor service (e.g., clean your ear, foot massage).

1.
109-113 Portland. The wonderful thing about this building is that it has about 6 saunas outlets in the same building on different floors. The girls on floors 9 and 4 look HOT!! Here is a brief summary:

Floor 11, open from 12 noon to 7am next morning, 168HK

FL 9, 11am to 7am, 308HK, 150 off with coupon

FL 6, 12 noon to 6am, 333HK

FL 5, Long to Court, massage and sex 590HK, the last time I was there, they have older girls (30+), ok place and not my recommendation.

FL 4, 318, discount with coupon

FL 3, 488

2.
15 Soy st. 3rd fl., 298Hk, 650HK full service 90 minutes, open 11 am to 7am

3.
43H Dundas, 18/F

The great thing about HK, is that for those who are in the know, HK is full of outlets for cheap sex with really good looking Chinese women who will give you a BBBJ, lick your ass, CIM, and some will fuck you with no condom (this 3rd option I do NOT recommend). All of this for around 360 to 490HK. Try finding that level of service and value pricing at the tourist bars on HK island (e.g., Fenwicks tourist bar).

Why is pussy priced so differently between HK island's tourist bars and Mong Kok? Simple, Mong Kok is mostly for the locals who would never pay tourist prices for sex and Fenwick type bars are for the tourist who will over pay for sex. I know guys will disagree with me about this. Hey, if you want to spend 3 times as much for pussy, it's your money and you should spend it however you like. I am only providing this information for guys who want to find great sex with good looking Chinese girls at low prices. 360HK = $46 U.S. dollars. 490HK = $63 U.S. dollars, now these are low prices!

Try finding the same level of sex service with a young Chinese girl at one of the tourist bars on HK island for about $46 to $63--you won't. For that matter, try finding a young Chinese girl in American to provide all the sex services for the same price--you won't. Now you can understand why the Mong Kok sex scene has been a part of HK for many decades.

Loved your disclaimer!

Just a couple of comments about differences in the price of pussy between Mongkok and the tourist bars. I fully agree, if you want a quick shag, then Mongkok is far better value. But if you've had a long day and need to unwind, want a couple of beers, some useless conversation, dance around a bit, listen to music and then take your dance partner for a shag, then Wanchai is not that expensive.

My maximum offer to girls that I like is HK$1,000 for the night. Some agree, some don't. The last girl I had, I picked her up about 9pm and released her about 3am. We partied and then about 12ish we retired to the room. Room charge was a couple of hundred bucks. Drinks extra.

If I did the same thing, say at 37 Dundas, their charging structure is simply that its 390 for 50 minutes, so if I want the same experience of chilling out before the deed, then its going to end up being quite a pretty penny. For the same 6 hours that I spent with Wanchai girl, the Dundas girl would cost 2,800.

Its the same analogy with the girls in a Mongkok karaoke. Spend any amount of time in them and it will cost you.

Don't get me wrong. I love the service you get in Mongkok, but sometimes, I like to unwind and take my time and that's when Wanchai in terms of price works out better. And if nothing pans out and I've got to have some pussy, then Mongkok is a short cab ride away.


[QUOTE=Undercoverh]
Why is pussy priced so differently between HK island's tourist bars and Mong Kok? Simple, Mong Kok is mostly for the locals who would never pay tourist prices for sex and Fenwick type bars are for the tourist who will over pay for sex. I know guys will disagree with me about this. Hey, if you want to spend 3 times as much for pussy, it's your money and you should spend it however you like. I am only providing this information for guys who want to find great sex with good looking Chinese girls at low prices. 360HK = $46 U.S. dollars. 490HK = $63 U.S. dollars, now these are low prices!

[/QUOTE]

Seems most of the 37 dundas / YS users here seem to go for the HK / Mainland girls. Would be interested in any reports on the Filipina, Thai, Malay and Russian girls available in Mong Kok.

[QUOTE=Dabeast]Great report mate on the go go bar scene. I know it is not most people's favourite because of the cost but I really enjoy them.

BTW what was the name of the karaoke bar where you saw the two 10's ?[/QUOTE]Don't know the name of the place. It simple says "Karaoke and Bar" in Neon. It is nex door to Spicey fingers and Fenwicks bar door. Walking from Laguna to Joe Bananas, its about 50 meters on the right hand side - a basement of an apartment block I think.

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]Loved your disclaimer!

Just a couple of comments about differences in the price of pussy between Mongkok and the tourist bars. I fully agree, if you want a quick shag, then Mongkok is far better value. But if you've had a long day and need to unwind, want a couple of beers, some useless conversation, dance around a bit, listen to music and then take your dance partner for a shag, then Wanchai is not that expensive.

My maximum offer to girls that I like is HK$1,000 for the night. Some agree, some don't. The last girl I had, I picked her up about 9pm and released her about 3am. We partied and then about 12ish we retired to the room. Room charge was a couple of hundred bucks. Drinks extra.

If I did the same thing, say at 37 Dundas, their charging structure is simply that its 390 for 50 minutes, so if I want the same experience of chilling out before the deed, then its going to end up being quite a pretty penny. For the same 6 hours that I spent with Wanchai girl, the Dundas girl would cost 2,800.

Its the same analogy with the girls in a Mongkok karaoke. Spend any amount of time in them and it will cost you.

Don't get me wrong. I love the service you get in Mongkok, but sometimes, I like to unwind and take my time and that's when Wanchai in terms of price works out better. And if nothing pans out and I've got to have some pussy, then Mongkok is a short cab ride away.[/QUOTE]

I completely understand your particular situation and needs. Sometimes a guy needs more time with a women for drink, dance, talk, etc., like being on a date. And of course, the guy will pay more for those non-sex foreplay services. Don't get me wrong, it is your money and you should spend it how you like....... but the stated 1,000 ($128 U.S. dollars) you paid is still expensive by Asia standards for the that type of package (sex plus LT GFE).

For example, at one of my most enjoyable places for sex is Thailand. In Bangkok at the Soi Cowboy go-go clubs (which I was at 2 months ago for the weekend), to have the same experience you referred to (drink, dance, good looking babe to stay with you all night and longer) cost about $45. And Thai girls are know for providing great GFE. In the Philippines, the cost is cheaper depending on which island you are on. In PI, I have had girls stay with me for the bar fine of $10, $25 to the girl, and breakfast cost for the both of us.

Here is the real problem I am trying to address with my comments: Most guys go to HK go to the tourist bars looking for JUST sex and end up paying 1,000 to 2,000 for sex and get very little or no foreplay, talk, etc. (most talk will center around price discussion and then discussion of ST or LT). They are under the wrong impression, 1,000 to 2,000 is the going price for sex in HK. No one told them about Mong Kok. These are the guys I am addressing my comments to inform them of alternative and reasonable pricing. But again, I understand your reasoning for going to HK island bars and I respect that.

If a guy knows all the facts about pricing (Mong Kok vs HK island) and still prefers HK island, that is fine. At least he made an informed choice.

I guess the reason I take the position of informing guys about the cheaper and great sex in HK is because when I was new to HK more than 13 years ago, my first stop was the Wan Chai bars and Fenwick type bars. No one told me I was paying too much---yap, I did it too when I was a newbie.

Back then, one day, I was talking to a cool guy that was a local HK Chinese and my cowoker at that time. He was laughing his ass off when I told him how much I was paying in the HK island bars for sex. A few weeks later, he took me to YS, saunas, and Ok bars in Mong Kok. By telling me about Mong Kok, he saved me lots of money. I am just pass this information on to the next guy. Needless to say, since that time, I have never been back to HK island for sex.

[QUOTE=Doerken2]Seems most of the 37 dundas / YS users here seem to go for the HK / Mainland girls. Would be interested in any reports on the Filipina, Thai, Malay and Russian girls available in Mong Kok.[/QUOTE]

There are almost no Filipinas at the YS's and very few Thais and Malays. These ethnic groups command the least amount of money on the YS signs. That's because YS's are catered for locals and locals don't want them.

There may be one or two Russians on any given night in the area.

Bottom line: For Filipinas and Thai, try Wanchai bars instead. For Russians, you should take a 45 minute ferry to Macau. Mongkok remains primarily a place to seek ethnic Chinese women. Otherwise, it's like asking for Indian food in a Japanese resturant.

Does anyone use websites for picking up non-working girls in HK?

I am a fan of the p4p scene, but I also like to meet easy girls through online dating sites. Has anyone had success with sites like match.com, geoexpat.com, etc?

[QUOTE=William07]Does anyone use websites for picking up non-working girls in HK?

I am a fan of the p4p scene, but I also like to meet easy girls through online dating sites. Has anyone had success with sites like match.com, geoexpat.com, etc?[/QUOTE]dateinasia.com is one - I know a couple of girls who are on there, so if it is attracting girls, it can't be all bad.

If you like a bit of Gweilow, there are shed loads of 35+ women around the bars all desperate for a shag as most men here have yellow fever. Get out and about.

[QUOTE=William07]Does anyone use websites for picking up non-working girls in HK?

I am a fan of the p4p scene, but I also like to meet easy girls through online dating sites. Has anyone had success with sites like match.com, geoexpat.com, etc?[/QUOTE]

Years ago, just for fun, I used the website listed below to date some young Flip girls in HK and Macau. They were young maids looking for love and someone to take them away from their regular working life as maids.

Nice girls and easy to get laid, good sex, BBBJ, CIM, etc. Also, they all eventually wanted me to fuck them with NO condom. I ALWAYS used a condom because I did not trust their stories--e.g., "you are the only one." Or, "I have not been with any guy for a long long time." Eventually they want to get married, have a family, and have you pay all the bills. Usually by the 2nd date, in some cases at the end of the first date, we were having sex. These are NON pay-4-pay girls. They are having sex for NO money trying to make you happy and get you to fall in love with them.

I soon lost interest in this method for free sex because they would bug the crap out of you, calling EVERYDAY! Sometimes, twice a day...... that drove me crazy. Plus, most maids only have Sunday off and if you live in HK, they expect to be with you all morning, all day, and all night on Sunday. In the beginning, it was fun, but Sunday after Sunday...... I eventually became bored with them, their pussy, and hearing them talk about silly stuff. Eventually, I changed my cell phone number and lost contact with them.

If you are NOT serious about finding a girl for a long term relationship, using this website and dating these girls, in the long term, is not worth the trouble because it takes so much time, money, and effort on your part. P4P is a much easier path and cheaper for guys who are NOT looking for a serious long term relationship.

As for Flips, the regular girls are nice enough and maybe make a good wife for some guys. Some expats in HK have married Flip girls and moved back to the guy's country. This is the ultimate golden price for a Flip girl.

Some Flips in HK work both sides of the road. That is, they are on the website acting like nice girls and on Sunday, hanging out at tourist bars (or YS in Mong Kok) selling their pussy. On the site, you will also find some Chinese HK girls.

It is also easy enough to meet Flip girls in HK, they are everywhere on Sunday, especially Central Park on HK island. One method to meeting them (which I have tried with success) is to simply walk into Jolly Bee food outlet (Sunday is the best day to go!) on HK island, sit down and eat or drink something. When you catch the Flip girls checking you out, just smile. You can figure out what to do after that. For that matter, anywhere in HK, when you get eye contact from a Flip girl, just smile at her and take it from there.

As for regular HK Chinese girls, when you are out and about, they are harder to meet if you are not Chinese. Plus, the HK Chinese girls are not impressed with foreigners the way Flip girls are. Have fun!

DISCLAIMER: The information presented above is not a put down of women from the wonderful country of the Philippines. Nor do I endorse, recommend, or promote the use of such girls just for the purpose of free sex. I think all women should be paid their fair market value for sex. Often times, their fair market value for sex is determined in a divorce settlement. ; - }

cherryblossoms

I will be in Hong Kong next week and have been checking the forum regarding 141. Has anyone tried the "Hotel Reservation Girls" on the ****** website, and what were the results?

WOODMAN

Well said Woodman.

As one who has been there, done that with flippers even marrying one and taking her home I whole heartedly agree. My ex was great to start with then came the family pressure to buy nepa house for this relly and that cousin. Jeepney needed new this and that as well as paying for all in sundry every time we visited and went out the door. On my frequent visits to Honkers I have used this same pick up method you describe with success. The only difference is I have to work a little in convincing them I am only in the hotel while looking for an apartment. Showing an interest in what they are selling/doing inside their cardboard box shops on a Sunday usually hits paydirt. I have returned to the simplicity of p4p at saunas, last visit covering North Point.

Hey guys,

Where is the best place to meet Thai, Filipino,or Indonesian girl during the day on week day?

Akka76,

Your last post about the 35+ lo wai gals picqued my interest I must admit. It would be an enjoyable experience to meet a few of these ladies. If for no other reason than it might be enjoyable to spend an evening with a gal that is trying her best to impress you as too her desireability, all while she knows that in a flash you could have some hot young Asian lady on your arm that will treat you like a king!
I must admit I just moved to the mainland and my travels to HK, while frequent, have mostly been for banking reasons and a couple of brief strolls thru parts of Wanchai. In fact I have only been to the Old China Pub, because Laguana wasn't open for business yet.
I have seen a number of well dressed western Milf looking ladies in the downtown area and wondered what that market was like in HK. If you wish to share some of your local knowledge of the locations these ladies might frequent, it would be most appreciated.
Thank you in advance!
Sky

Here is how it works.

Usually it's THEIR hotel, let me explain. You call the papasan, he tells you if the girl is available. If yes he will say, "be at this XX hotel in 30 min. " You go there and wait for them to call you back (safety procedure.) Then the papasan tells you: "room number XXX" and you walk in.

I am always hesistant to do it this way. For one there's probably a camera in there ready to shoot your highlights and post it on the web. For another be careful of the "jealous boyfriend/husband scheme" where someone will hide in the closet or knock on the door angrily claiming to be her boyfriend or husband and demand you pay "retributions" for screwing his girl.

The SAFER bet is to call these hotel girls and demand they come to YOUR room. It will cost extra but hey, safety first.

Hi guys,

I'm back home, after spending a week in Kowloon, doing business and having a wonderful time, courtesy of hard working girls. After checking various reports, and checking out the various websites like 141 the 161 and miss148, I concluded that the lowest prices were in Mong Kok. On my frist visit, I went to the address 134-136 Sai Yeung Choi street south, there are girls on 7th, and 8th floors.

After taking the elevator to the 8th floor, I found this area lit up in pink neon, and this seems to be the average decor of most working girl places, either pink or red lighting. There are two doors, but both had the busy signs outside, so I went down one floor, this area had several doors too (about 5) I pushed the button on B door, this girl advertises massage and whole package for 400HKD.

She did not speak English, but showed me 4 fingers, and welcomed me in. First she gave me a shower, gently washing every area, and as I dried myself, she finished her own shower. After that she gave a light back rub, some soft massage all over my body, then she flipped me over. She rubbed all the areas, and I indicated to her to start the BJ. She did this uncovered and with great enthusiasm, I had to stop her after a few minutes, because I was ready to gush right there. We did several positions, including cow-girl, mish and before long I was redy to pop.

After that she cleaned me up nicely, and I gave her a 500HKD note, she gave me 100 change. All in all a great experience with a 141 girl, this was around 10pm and after that I headed to my hotel. One thing I liked about HK is that activity levels stay high long after dark, sometimes I would go for a walk at 3am, and there still people in the streets, and the place felt safe at all hours.

My second day, I went back to the same address on Sai Cheung Choi, but I tried the 55 address, right next to the photo equipment shop downstairs, but there was no one there at the indicated flats (3rd floor) the doors were locked and no pink or re lights.

I walked over to the 134-136 building, I intended to try out the girl Jojo from the 141 site. She is listed as being in 8th floor flat B. I did meet the girl, this time there was a welcome sign at the door indicating she was available. First of all, on the site it says she speaks English, but other than 'Hello", 'OK' and 'good' her language was very limited. The othr thing is that she does not look like the girl in the ad, the one in the ad is hotter, and when I said Jojo, she did not seem to understand, until almost a few minutes later, when she seemed to remember that was the name she was supposed to answer to! Anyways she first indicated 500HKD, and I countered with 400HKD, on the website it says 350, but I did not have proof of that, she agreed on 400. She gave me the average shower, no massage on the bed, and to my great disappointment only covered oral, I tried to indicate uncovered oral, but she refused, so we went on to intercourse, she kept fidgeting and then she said she was too dry, and used some lubrication, I finished her doggy, but the whole experience was less than what I had in the past from 141 girl.

My third excursion was to visit a Yellow sign place. It was around mid-nite, and I walked down Portland, and Shanghai streets, lots of YS places. I went to one in Portland, after being put in a room with a big leatherette covered bed, the guy brought over two girls, but they were not to my liking, so I left.

I went on to this YS at 460 shanghai, and it has a butterfly on the board, I went in. The guy showed me to a room, and brought the first girl, I declined, not because she was ugly, just did not want the first choice. He brought a second one she looked at least 30yo, but smiled pleasantly, and I settled on her. She gave me the shower, and to spice things up, after soaping me up, she did the same to herself then slid along my body, very tantalizing.

After the shower, we went to the room, where she licked every inch of my body, including AR and she was very good at this. She then lightly dragged her fingernails along my skin, all the way doen to my feet, and this was very exciting, all new to me. I indicated for her to start oral, she proceeded to do very deep sucking, uncovered, and swirled her tongue in all different angles. After a while I had to stop her, otherwise I would explode. I laid on top of her, and played with her titties, flicking and sucking them and she was very excited, then I fingered her pussy ans she went wild with that. Afterwards we did intercourse in various positions, so far my most memorable experience in HK.

Total charge was 450HKD and the Papason wanted to know if the girl was good, I showed him thumbs up, he than told me that was girl number 41 for future reference. On the next day I went to 47 Dundas place, there are two establishment here, the 390HKD and 360HKD place. I tried the 390 place, they brought 3 girls, none to my liking, so I went up one more floor, and I chose a girl there. I paid 460 and the girl was given 100 to pay for thr room. We went up to a room shortly.

One thing about Dundas is the quality of the rooms, way better that the other YS places,well lit, lcd TV and nice glass showers. The girl I had this time did OK in my opinion, however uncovered oral was not on the menu, I tried but she did not yield, she spoke no english, and the only leverage I could have was threaten to tell her handlers she was not delivering, but I had no way of communicating that, also she offered no massge, body rub, or licking. The sex was average, and I left feeling the experince was not great.

On my last evening I went to King Hing building that had 141 ads. Its located on 52-54 Argyle street, tha entrance is actually on Fa Yuen street which us adjacent to Argyle. This building has girls in the 9th, 7th, and 3rd floor. I chose a girl in 7th floor, greta uncovered oral, and good intercourse skill, all for 400 HKD.

Hong Kong is definitely on my pleasure map, the accomodations were cheap and clean, I also toured the harbour, and went up on the cable car to Ngong Ping, with spectacular views. I will definitely be touring again, plau the business that brought me there in the first place was successfull, so it seems HK works for business and pleasure.

LM

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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Akka76,

Your last post about the 35+ lo wai gals picqued my interest I must admit. It would be an enjoyable experience to meet a few of these ladies. If for no other reason than it might be enjoyable to spend an evening with a gal that is trying her best to impress you as too her desireability, all while she knows that in a flash you could have some hot young Asian lady on your arm that will treat you like a king!
I must admit I just moved to the mainland and my travels to HK, while frequent, have mostly been for banking reasons and a couple of brief strolls thru parts of Wanchai. In fact I have only been to the Old China Pub, because Laguana wasn't open for business yet.

I have seen a number of well dressed western Milf looking ladies in the downtown area and wondered what that market was like in HK. If you wish to share some of your local knowledge of the locations these ladies might frequent, it would be most appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

Sky[/QUOTE]Well. They do not hang out in the seedy bars of Wanchai. I was referring to non pro white chicks who do not get any. So hunting ground is anywhere but. Main stream bars in LKF or basically anywhere where they do not have to compete with sexy asian pros.

Akka76,

Thanks for the response. If I gave the impression I thought these "white ladies" were pros I apologize. I am sure they don't frequent places where there is open competition for male attention. Being a "newbie" to the area I was looking for a couple of recommendations of places that I might start the search. I am sure I can do a search of the area you mentioned or possibly "ask around" and find a starting point. My thoughts are that these white "available" gals probably have a couple of watering holes they feel comfortable in and there is a least a possibility of meeting someone mildly interesting, like maybe a happy hour cocktail, etc. I suspect the process is the same as most other places in the world, with a little added incentive for the ladies to be approachable do to the availability of other "feminine resources" to the male population.
This is what makes this whole traveling the world interesting, trying new things in new places and who knows how much fun one can have. One good thing from my perspective is that I will be living in the area and will have time to "cultivate" some interest if you will. The other thing is that if nothing worth while happens there is a seemingly endless supply of "available" gals in Wan Chai to enjoy. It is a win/win for all.
In the end there is one thing that I know for an absloute, much like death and taxes, you are going to pay for your carnal pleasures. The only questions are how much and in what form the payment will take!

Sky

[QUOTE=LynnMan]Hi guys,

I'm back home, after spending a week in Kowloon, doing business and having a wonderful time, courtesy of hard working girls. After checking various reports, and checking out the various websites like 141 the 161 and miss148, I concluded that the lowest prices were in Mong Kok. On my frist visit, I went to the address 134-136 Sai Yeung Choi street south, there are girls on 7th, and 8th floors.

After taking the elevator to the 8th floor, I found this area lit up in pink neon, and this seems to be the average decor of most working girl places, either pink or red lighting. There are two doors, but both had the busy signs outside, so I went down one floor, this area had several doors too (about 5) I pushed the button on B door, this girl advertises massage and whole package for 400HKD.

She did not speak English, but showed me 4 fingers, and welcomed me in. First she gave me a shower, gently washing every area, and as I dried myself, she finished her own shower. After that she gave a light back rub, some soft massage all over my body, then she flipped me over. She rubbed all the areas, and I indicated to her to start the BJ. She did this uncovered and with great enthusiasm, I had to stop her after a few minutes, because I was ready to gush right there. We did several positions, including cow-girl, mish and before long I was redy to pop.

After that she cleaned me up nicely, and I gave her a 500HKD note, she gave me 100 change. All in all a great experience with a 141 girl, this was around 10pm and after that I headed to my hotel. One thing I liked about HK is that activity levels stay high long after dark, sometimes I would go for a walk at 3am, and there still people in the streets, and the place felt safe at all hours.

My second day, I went back to the same address on Sai Cheung Choi, but I tried the 55 address, right next to the photo equipment shop downstairs, but there was no one there at the indicated flats (3rd floor) the doors were locked and no pink or re lights.

I walked over to the 134-136 building, I intended to try out the girl Jojo from the 141 site. She is listed as being in 8th floor flat B. I did meet the girl, this time there was a welcome sign at the door indicating she was available. First of all, on the site it says she speaks English, but other than 'Hello", 'OK' and 'good' her language was very limited. The othr thing is that she does not look like the girl in the ad, the one in the ad is hotter, and when I said Jojo, she did not seem to understand, until almost a few minutes later, when she seemed to remember that was the name she was supposed to answer to! Anyways she first indicated 500HKD, and I countered with 400HKD, on the website it says 350, but I did not have proof of that, she agreed on 400. She gave me the average shower, no massage on the bed, and to my great disappointment only covered oral, I tried to indicate uncovered oral, but she refused, so we went on to intercourse, she kept fidgeting and then she said she was too dry, and used some lubrication, I finished her doggy, but the whole experience was less than what I had in the past from 141 girl.

My third excursion was to visit a Yellow sign place. It was around mid-nite, and I walked down Portland, and Shanghai streets, lots of YS places. I went to one in Portland, after being put in a room with a big leatherette covered bed, the guy brought over two girls, but they were not to my liking, so I left.

I went on to this YS at 460 shanghai, and it has a butterfly on the board, I went in. The guy showed me to a room, and brought the first girl, I declined, not because she was ugly, just did not want the first choice. He brought a second one she looked at least 30yo, but smiled pleasantly, and I settled on her. She gave me the shower, and to spice things up, after soaping me up, she did the same to herself then slid along my body, very tantalizing.

After the shower, we went to the room, where she licked every inch of my body, including AR and she was very good at this. She then lightly dragged her fingernails along my skin, all the way doen to my feet, and this was very exciting, all new to me. I indicated for her to start oral, she proceeded to do very deep sucking, uncovered, and swirled her tongue in all different angles. After a while I had to stop her, otherwise I would explode. I laid on top of her, and played with her titties, flicking and sucking them and she was very excited, then I fingered her pussy ans she went wild with that. Afterwards we did intercourse in various positions, so far my most memorable experience in HK.

Total charge was 450HKD and the Papason wanted to know if the girl was good, I showed him thumbs up, he than told me that was girl number 41 for future reference. On the next day I went to 47 Dundas place, there are two establishment here, the 390HKD and 360HKD place. I tried the 390 place, they brought 3 girls, none to my liking, so I went up one more floor, and I chose a girl there. I paid 460 and the girl was given 100 to pay for thr room. We went up to a room shortly.

One thing about Dundas is the quality of the rooms, way better that the other YS places,well lit, lcd TV and nice glass showers. The girl I had this time did OK in my opinion, however uncovered oral was not on the menu, I tried but she did not yield, she spoke no english, and the only leverage I could have was threaten to tell her handlers she was not delivering, but I had no way of communicating that, also she offered no massge, body rub, or licking. The sex was average, and I left feeling the experince was not great.

On my last evening I went to King Hing building that had 141 ads. Its located on 52-54 Argyle street, tha entrance is actually on Fa Yuen street which us adjacent to Argyle. This building has girls in the 9th, 7th, and 3rd floor. I chose a girl in 7th floor, greta uncovered oral, and good intercourse skill, all for 400 HKD.

Hong Kong is definitely on my pleasure map, the accomodations were cheap and clean, I also toured the harbour, and went up on the cable car to Ngong Ping, with spectacular views. I will definitely be touring again, plau the business that brought me there in the first place was successfull, so it seems HK works for business and pleasure.

LM

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Excellent report with lots of good information. Your approach to trying different offerings in HK (e.g., 141s, YS) is a good way to go. Your comments about Mong Kok being the lowest price for sex is right on target. I will give 460 Shanghai you mentioned a try!

I got hooked on YS because at these places, as you have experienced, MOST of the time the girls really go wild with BBBJ, ass licking, and fucking--it's like being in a porno movie and you are the star-all for around 360 to 490HK!! Also, a lot of YS are open from 11 am until 6 am the next morning--so just about anytime a guy gets horny, release is only a very short distance away (if you are in Mong Kok).

When my live-in girlfriend was a away recently, I went to the Phram next to K-Pressure and picked up some Cialis (2 pills cost about $26 U.S.). I took the C and the whole weekend I was banging YS girls, it was a wonderful weekend!! What can I say, after so many years of being here in HK and banging lots of Chinese girls, I still get a rush when I am standing in a YS shower and some young Chinese girl is on her knees and she has my "d" in her mouth (BBBJ) looking up at me with those Asian eyes as she's sucking, licking, and slurping .......priceless--but actually it only cost 360HK

I have tried a lot of different outlets in HK (e.g., ok bars, tourist and go-go bars on HK island, saunas, SW, etc) but in my experience, going to the BEST of the YS in Mong Kok will consistently give more "fuck for the buck!"

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]I got hooked on YS because at these places ... but in my experience, going to the best YS in Mong Kok will consistently give more bang for the buck![/QUOTE]

What is YS again?

[QUOTE=Le Grand]What is YS again?[/QUOTE]


Basically, it is a mini-hotel with several girls on site for sex. See my previous post last month for a more detailed explanation.

I am only listing this YS as new because I have never been there. It was listed in the Chinese magazine and I failed to include it in my list last time.

941 Canton Road, 1st Floor in Mong Kok . open 1 pm to 6 am. phone 26255871
420HK for 70 minutes for water suck, mouth cum, face cum, lick ass, and sex as listed in the ad. The girls listed in the ad have big tits! Most girls ages listed are from 24 to 26 (you can see their body in the ad but not their face).

On Dundas street, walk towards Shanghai street a few streets past Shanghai until you come to Canton Road.

[QUOTE=Benjao]Hey guys,

Where is the best place to meet Thai, Filipino,or Indonesian girl during the day on week day?[/QUOTE]Hey Benjao,

I have not had a lot of luck during the week days. The best strategy seems to be to get some phone numbers at night in the discos. Then text them when you want to see them. Some are really game, and cheaper, as this would otherwise be down time. Others seem not to respond (I sleeping, shopping, eating). Hit or miss.

Another option is to hang out at Bridge or Old China on Lockhart Road. Girls come and go during the day. Strangly it seems quite active on Mondays.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Le Grand]What is YS again?[/QUOTE]
"YS" stands for "yellow signs" and refers to the streets near 37 Dundas and the Mongkok MTR stop and elsewhere nearby, where several places have yellow signs outside their door/stairway, advertising in Chinese characters that different types of girls are available for different prices (e.g. Thai 280 HK$, Chinese 360 HK$, Russian HK$600).

As he has already noted, distinguished member Undercoverh wrote a useful post on this topic recently.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Akka76,

Thanks for the response. If I gave the impression I thought these "white ladies" were pros I apologize. I am sure they don't frequent places where there is open competition for male attention. Being a "newbie" to the area I was looking for a couple of recommendations of places that I might start the search. I am sure I can do a search of the area you mentioned or possibly "ask around" and find a starting point. My thoughts are that these white "available" gals probably have a couple of watering holes they feel comfortable in and there is a least a possibility of meeting someone mildly interesting, like maybe a happy hour cocktail, etc. I suspect the process is the same as most other places in the world, with a little added incentive for the ladies to be approachable do to the availability of other "feminine resources" to the male population.

This is what makes this whole traveling the world interesting, trying new things in new places and who knows how much fun one can have. One good thing from my perspective is that I will be living in the area and will have time to "cultivate" some interest if you will. The other thing is that if nothing worth while happens there is a seemingly endless supply of "available" gals in Wan Chai to enjoy. It is a win/win for all.

In the end there is one thing that I know for an absloute, much like death and taxes, you are going to pay for your carnal pleasures. The only questions are how much and in what form the payment will take!

Sky[/QUOTE]I realise that this is a p4p forum, and this is really off topic. Something to think about. Just like men who move here, women often leave their inhibitions behind also. They are out here to play in a town with no consequences to their precious reputation that they guard so zealously in western world. So, hang out joints are really the key, and are more likely to be the places where there guard is up. Farang chicks are everywhere, and very susceptible to being picked up as long as you are ok looking, confident blah blah blah all the things I am not hahaha. Any bar will do, Lang Kwai Fong in central is where the suit chicks go after work (in central, every taxi knows it). If you are really stuck on where to pick up legit girls matey get down to wanchai and get your fucks there whilst you sharpen up your sharking skills.

All the best.

Akka76,

Thanks for the update. I think that the name of the board is ISG instead of IP4PSG for a reason. I don't think anyone will mind a little talk about freebies as long as it is leading to sex! I least I hope it doesn't offend anyone. On my next trip I wil be sure to wear my best bib & tucker and stop in a likely looking watering hole for some unsuspecting "farang".
I will also be sure to report back on my failure (or maybe a little success) to puncture the veil of secrecy that surrounds that rarest of all things, (liberal western) pussy. Yes of course I know that on some level it is all about the money.......
Thanks,
Sky

Gents:

I will be in Hong Kong this weekend, and would like to know if Cialis or Viagra are available without a prescription. I will be staying in Central.

Thanks,

WOODMAN

[QUOTE=Woodman]Gents:

I will be in Hong Kong this weekend, and would like to know if Cialis or Viagra are available without a prescription. I will be staying in Central.

Thanks,

WOODMAN[/QUOTE]

Woodman,

Almost all the small pharmacies in HK have both Cialis and Viagra. I don't know about the Viagra, but a box of 4 Cialis goes for between HK$370-400 and you do not need a prescription. I bought twice in Wanchai from 2 different places and it worked for me. Then there were reports here of people saying they had bad experience and I started buying them on the TST side. The last batch was from the small pharmacy at the entrance for K Pressure in Jordan.

for most part, what I had did work and there was a few times that taking it had no effect whatsoever. I am not sure if it was me (mind over matter) or I had a fake one.

I am not in HK right now and will not be back till end of September or I would have brought you to some of these pharmacies. Maybe others can give an exact address.

Best Regards,

APAC Man

Yes, HK pharmacy (and China) are notorious for fake medicines, especially selling them to foreigners. I have many friends that supposively bought Viagra and had no effects whatsoever, and they never had a problem with prescription Viagra.

Dusk till Dawn Report

Let me give you an idea about myself. I am born and raised in Hong Kong. I've been in Hong Kong even before the crossarbour tunnel was made here. Tonight I've had the biggest insult bestowed upon me - I actually had the experience of being thrown out of a bar, and for the sole reason because I did to the manager of the bar, what the manager did to me.

Out of all the monies I have spent in Wanchai, I had the displeasure of being entwined by the Filipina manager in Dusk Till Dawn, to whom I returned the same. I was then put in a vice by the security guards and escorted out the door. I was told my problem was that I put my hands around this Filipina. Mind you, she can put her hands ariound me, but I cannot do the same for her.

The problem was that this Filipina put her hands around me, so I did likewise. I was thus thrown out the door. Never in my life, in the 50 years that I have lived in Hong Kong that have I encountered this.

So a word of caution......perhaps this problem will occur with all establishmets of the dusk till dawn corporation, I do not know, but as Undercoverrh has said quite rightly, perhaps Mongkok is a better place to go for out hobbies, and we can leave establishments like Dusk till Dawn to their Filipina counterparts who think they are God.

I for one, will never enter any of their establishments again after this fiasco.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]Dusk till Dawn Report

Let me give you an idea about myself. I am born and raised in Hong Kong. I've been in Hong Kong even before the crossarbour tunnel was made here. Tonight I've had the biggest insult bestowed upon me - I actually had the experience of being thrown out of a bar, and for the sole reason because I did to the manager of the bar, what the manager did to me.

Out of all the monies I have spent in Wanchai, I had the displeasure of being entwined by the Filipina manager in Dusk Till Dawn, to whom I returned the same. I was then put in a vice by the security guards and escorted out the door. I was told my problem was that I put my hands around this Filipina. Mind you, she can put her hands ariound me, but I cannot do the same for her.

The problem was that this Filipina put her hands around me, so I did likewise. I was thus thrown out the door. Never in my life, in the 50 years that I have lived in Hong Kong that have I encountered this.

So a word of caution......perhaps this problem will occur with all establishmets of the dusk till dawn corporation, I do not know, but as Undercoverrh has said quite rightly, perhaps Mongkok is a better place to go for out hobbies, and we can leave establishments like Dusk till Dawn to their Filipina counterparts who think they are God.

I for one, will never enter any of their establishments again after this fiasco.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

When I was a newbie more than 10 years ago and I would stop by the bars in Wanchai, it was a hassle most of the time.......the rip off go-go bars, the tourist bars, the "you can touch me-but I cannot touch you" bars, and who can forget the high drink cost. When a guy goes out on the town for fun and sex, it really screws up the night when he encounters problems with a girl that has a bad attitude, aggressive security, being ripped off, or just a bad attitude by the mamason.

For the most part, Mong Kok is truly different. Let's face it, when we walk down Shanghai, Portland, or the other streets with YS, the price for sex is clearly posted on the yellow sign. No BS by the mamason inside the YS trying to yank more money out of you. Try finding that in Wanchai.

I like the fact that everything in at a Class A YS in Mong Kok is right up front--with no BS. No drink minimum BS, no high drink cost, no aggressive papason, etc. When you walk in, you know what you are going to get and exactly how much it is going to cost. This puts my mind at easy I can really focus on the task at hand--having an enjoyable sexual experience.

Also, if a guy goes to the RECOMMENDED YS on this website located in Mong Kok (e.g., 37 Dundas, K-Pressure, etc.), he is going to have an enjoyable experience the vast majority of the time. My customer satisfaction rate for GFE/BBBJ/sex has been about 90% at the Class A YS--and that's a dam good customer satisfaction rate (satisfied 9 out of 10 visits).

AND, the price is down right cheap with an endless selection of girls from the ages of 18 through the early 30's--all starting around 260HK to 490HK--now that's more "Fuck for the Buck."

I don't know why people bother with the bars when all they're looking for is FS. If you like the atmosphere of the bars, have some fun, get wasted on alcohol, then by all means, go. But if you're just looking for a good looking lady to FS with, go to YS. Most YS in Mong Kok are rated 7-8 with their ladies. You can definitely tell the mamasan to give you another girl if you're unsatisfy with the one they send you. 37 Dundas takes out 5-8 girls at a time and usually there's one 7 in there.

Now, if you want 9-10 there's the Night Clubs (not bars.) They usually cost $4500+ HKD per FS (not including hotel), but hey, you got to pay for top quality.

Hi,

I am planning to fly my girlfriend in from Phillipines to HK for a few days so we can meet up. What's a good, decent cheap place to stay?

What are some clubs we can go to? I am not sure of the likes of Fenwicks, Laguna etc... are good to take my gf.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

-JM

[QUOTE=JoseMarti]Hi,

I am planning to fly my girlfriend in from Phillipines to HK for a few days so we can meet up. What's a good, decent cheap place to stay?

What are some clubs we can go to? I am not sure of the likes of Fenwicks, Laguna etc... are good to take my gf.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

-JM[/QUOTE]Sorry cant help with the hotel, but I would start my night off in LKF and then if you still want to party then go to WanChai, I have been there with my pinay gf and its OK there are other places to go there besides neptunes or Fenwicks Bulldogs or Spicy Fingers and the atmosphere is good and its not as full on as the discos mentioned above.

Wizard

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]Dusk till Dawn Report

Let me give you an idea about myself. I am born and raised in Hong Kong. I've been in Hong Kong even before the crossarbour tunnel was made here. Tonight I've had the biggest insult bestowed upon me - I actually had the experience of being thrown out of a bar, and for the sole reason because I did to the manager of the bar, what the manager did to me.

Out of all the monies I have spent in Wanchai, I had the displeasure of being entwined by the Filipina manager in Dusk Till Dawn, to whom I returned the same. I was then put in a vice by the security guards and escorted out the door. I was told my problem was that I put my hands around this Filipina. Mind you, she can put her hands ariound me, but I cannot do the same for her.

The problem was that this Filipina put her hands around me, so I did likewise. I was thus thrown out the door. Never in my life, in the 50 years that I have lived in Hong Kong that have I encountered this.

So a word of caution......perhaps this problem will occur with all establishmets of the dusk till dawn corporation, I do not know, but as Undercoverrh has said quite rightly, perhaps Mongkok is a better place to go for out hobbies, and we can leave establishments like Dusk till Dawn to their Filipina counterparts who think they are God.

I for one, will never enter any of their establishments again after this fiasco.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Wow, thats a really strange one and I feel for you after this incident.

So what other places does this corperation own as I really dont want or need those kind of hassles either.

As an aside, I will still frequent the WanChai establishments as opposed to the YS places in MongKok as I like the having a chat and just having a good time for a few hours before the deed is done back in the hotel, but its just me.

Wizard

So I was out in Wanchai last night and got really pissed with a mate from work. Watched some sport in Laguna (is there a better place to watch sport? No, I don't think so) and it was jumping from 6pm. Only a couple of 8-9's there though. Interesting point. At 7. 30, half the girls left with guys so I guess they were headed to ST hotels in time to be back home for the 9pm curfew. Popped into fenwicks, and it was ok but half empty. Then onto Neptunes. Bumped into the pinoy I did a couple of months ago which was interesting. There was one girl who was a 10. Just in for 4 days and first trip. Cambodian. Stunning. About 19-20, great hair like farrah fawcett in Charlies Angels. I was too drunk to do anything so as soon as my mate was hooked up with her, I left. I want to find her though because she was a clear 10 but I'm not a fan of sailing in someone elses wake, so I will check if he fucked her or not.

Today, it's Sunday, and I'm off to the wanch again for some short time afternoon fun. Praise the lord and all that jazz. I'm having my communion from the fanjita of a young sexy girl. God bless you.

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]Dusk till Dawn Report

Let me give you an idea about myself. I am born and raised in Hong Kong. I've been in Hong Kong even before the crossarbour tunnel was made here. Tonight I've had the biggest insult bestowed upon me - I actually had the experience of being thrown out of a bar, and for the sole reason because I did to the manager of the bar, what the manager did to me.

Out of all the monies I have spent in Wanchai, I had the displeasure of being entwined by the Filipina manager in Dusk Till Dawn, to whom I returned the same. I was then put in a vice by the security guards and escorted out the door. I was told my problem was that I put my hands around this Filipina. Mind you, she can put her hands ariound me, but I cannot do the same for her.

The problem was that this Filipina put her hands around me, so I did likewise. I was thus thrown out the door. Never in my life, in the 50 years that I have lived in Hong Kong that have I encountered this.

So a word of caution......perhaps this problem will occur with all establishmets of the dusk till dawn corporation, I do not know, but as Undercoverrh has said quite rightly, perhaps Mongkok is a better place to go for out hobbies, and we can leave establishments like Dusk till Dawn to their Filipina counterparts who think they are God.

I for one, will never enter any of their establishments again after this fiasco.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Some more words of caution about Dusk Till Dawn and the other bars of their group e.g. Insomnia in Lan Kwai Fong:

It happened frequently to me and others that they forget to bring your change or they return too little change. Yes, sometimes the waitresses act like little belladonnas and feel being something better than us who pay for their salaries.

It also happened to me that they wanted to check my lady companion's passport and refused her entrance because "she is a 2 week girl" (girls from Philippines who come on a 2-week visa to get as many 1000-Dollar jobs per night as possible).

But the music is pretty good (not to be all too negative)

[QUOTE=JoseMarti]Hi,

I am planning to fly my girlfriend in from Phillipines to HK for a few days so we can meet up. What's a good, decent cheap place to stay?

What are some clubs we can go to? I am not sure of the likes of Fenwicks, Laguna etc... are good to take my gf.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

-JM[/QUOTE]

JM:

I might suggest an area called "Lan Kwai Fong". It really jumps over the weekend. Not many working girls, but MANY great looking women. There is a great place on top of the Hotel LKF at 33 Wyndham Street called "AZURO". It is the restaurant until the sun goes down and then it is a great club.

WOODMAN

QUOTE=Apac Man]Woodman,

Almost all the small pharmacies in HK have both Cialis and Viagra. I don't know about the Viagra, but a box of 4 Cialis goes for between HK$370-400 and you do not need a prescription. I bought twice in Wanchai from 2 different places and it worked for me. Then there were reports here of people saying they had bad experience and I started buying them on the TST side. The last batch was from the small pharmacy at the entrance for K Pressure in Jordan.

for most part, what I had did work and there was a few times that taking it had no effect whatsoever. I am not sure if it was me (mind over matter) or I had a fake one.

I am not in HK right now and will not be back till end of September or I would have brought you to some of these pharmacies. Maybe others can give an exact address.

Best Regards,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]

Thanks to APAC Man, it was very easy for find "real" Cialis. I thought I would share the detailed information he sent to me as it was very easy.
1. Take the MRT to the "TSIM SHA TSUI" Station. (It is the "RED" line)
2. When you arrive at the station, look for the "Hanoi Road" Exit. (I believe it is Exit M).
3. Walk about 75 meters, and you will find the "Tak Long Pharmacy" on the right as you exit the MRT.
4. You will need a prescription for VIAGRA, but not prescription is necessary for CIALIS. I bought a box of four tablets for HK$380.

Very easy to find! Thanks for the help APAC Man.

WOODMAN

Is it just me, or did the price of hotel in K Pressure just go up? I went last Saturday, girl was 390 but the hotel was 108, not 100 like reported previously by other memebers. Not that it is a problem. Just reporting my experience from Saturday. Maybe it is the weekend thing?

Other than that, it was really great experience. It seems like it is a rule, you need to see at least 3 girls before you find something decent: first I got an older gal, she was cute and nice but I decided to see more. Then a younger girl came in, but I didn't really feel the vibe. I asked for more. "today very busy, blah blah blah". But the next girl was exactly what I was looking for. Very friendly, good looking, small rack but great personality. Will not get into details, as the routine seems to be pretty much the same, but it was really a great experience. She did all I asked for, including CIM to conclude, will definitelly go back. Will check 37D before though. I'm a newbie in HK.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Here is how it works.

Usually it's THEIR hotel, let me explain. You call the papasan, he tells you if the girl is available. If yes he will say, "be at this XX hotel in 30 min. " You go there and wait for them to call you back (safety procedure.) Then the papasan tells you: "room number XXX" and you walk in.

I am always hesistant to do it this way. For one there's probably a camera in there ready to shoot your highlights and post it on the web. For another be careful of the "jealous boyfriend/husband scheme" where someone will hide in the closet or knock on the door angrily claiming to be her boyfriend or husband and demand you pay "retributions" for screwing his girl.

The SAFER bet is to call these hotel girls and demand they come to YOUR room. It will cost extra but hey, safety first.[/QUOTE]

I am referring to the in room camera and the "jealous boyfriend/husband scheme". First time I have read anything like this. Lot's of Bait and Switch reports. But.... You tell me.

N1

I spent 4 days in Kowloon a couple weeks ago and had a great time.
Day 1 - arrived and went to Champagne B for a 141 girl, wow so many were busy and there were a ton of guys waling the halls. I had an amazing girl, that was not listed on 141 or 161 (7/F, main hallway). I think she was local, long curly hair. The massage was soso and she was of course amazed by my size, but she took it all and went to town. good time. The price has gone up and was $580 vs the old prices last time I was here.
Day 2- 37D, 1st floor (up one set of steps). The lineup that was brought was just ok and I didn't decide. The mamasan said you take 2 girls? not sure what she meant exactly (2 for 1, ??). Well I rejected them and she brought back 2 more girls. One was what I was looking for Becky I think. Almost blew in the shower as she slid back an forth on me with he ass to me all soaped up. played a little and then I went down on her - that was the best tasting pussy I have ever had, so clean and sweet, wow. She came so hard too - she reached down when she was done shaking her head and grinning and looking at how wet her hand was. she then climbed on and road me covered again - she came again with a huge shudder and moan, I could feel her cum leak out all over me - Amazing. 37D is awesome.
Day 3 - 37D. A different girl, not as good looking as Becky and heavier, slightly fat around the middle. She did cum even harder than Becky did though and couldn't get enough of my US sized cock.
Went to Hari's for a beer and talked to a Philipino for a long time. She was pretty cute, a little bigger though. I was not interested in more as I was fully satisfied from 37D. It was packed with working ladies from the Philippines, china, Africa, and who know where else. We talked for a while about business, she comes for 2 weeks at a time, works Hari's mostly, sleeps during the day. I tried to get her to go sight seeing with me the next day before she went to work. She called me at 4:30 am and wanted to go but she wanted me to pay for it. I was more than willing to pay for her travel, food, etc and didn't even care about getting sex, just looking for the company but she didn't go for it.
Day 4 - had a "date" with a local girl who bought me dinner and took me souvenir shopping. It was nice but she set rules up from - no sex. This was fine and I had a good time. After she left - off to a 141 as I really wanted a massage. Had a great time and she was smoking hot. Champagne B, it was late, I think 7F/ A2?
Last morning - I actually had an arrangement with a Indonesian maid who was going to come to my hotel after work. I was pretty satisfied with what I had had already and never called her with the room number. It is really easy to get dates with the maids on Sundays - just go to Yahoo chat and talk to them. Most have cameras as they are at Internet cafe's using computers with cameras.

Can't wait to go back, it may be a while as costs in China keep going up.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]In PI, I have had girls stay with me for the bar fine of $10, $25 to the girl, and breakfast cost for the both of us. [/QUOTE]

I'm guessing your speaking of AC. Barfines on Fields are around 1200 pesos today. Good service LT tips are around 500. I think you have got it backwards.

N1

[QUOTE=Nuevo]I'm guessing your speaking of AC. Barfines on Fields are around 1200 pesos today. Good service LT tips are around 500. I think you have got it backwards.

N1[/QUOTE]


Nope, you guessed wrong. You may recall in my post I stated it depends on which island you are on. The island I was referring to was......can you guess.......... I will give you a hint, it is in the Visayas. Second hint, it is near the island of Cebu. You give up?? The island I was referring to is Camotes Island. It is a less than an hour boat ride from Cebu City. And, the info I gave was correct.........as always. : - )

[/QUOTE]The standard time is around 45 to 50 minutes for a cost of around 200HK to 500HK. Cost varies depending on the type of girl offered, quality of girl, quality of service, and quality of the rooms. The average cost is 360HK.

At most YS, you can choose from up to 3 or 4 girls depending on who is available. Some YS bring all the girls to you at the same time to choose (e.g., 37 Dundas), others let the girl come to you one at a time. Normally, 4 is the max number of girls you can choose from. Most girls will be in their mid 20s to early 30s.

The advantage to going to a GOOD YS place is there is a mamason who ensures good service provided to you from the girl. Most open from 11:00 am until 6:00 am the next day. In Mong Kok, at last count, there are about 200+ YS outlets. Most are found on Portland and Shanghai streets with the starting point being Dundas street heading towards mainland China.[/QUOTE]


[url]http://good-times.webshots.com/phot...090482941dhQQjZ[/url]


Dear Undercoverh,

You have stated a number of times that the YS with paper signs are not safe (you designate these places as B class). That's unfortunate, as the link I retrieved above that was posted earlier with all of the pics indicates that a lot of these Class B girls are quite pretty and young.

I've read a number of reports on this forum and others suggesting that the KP and 37 Dundas girls were not so pretty and as you suggest in your quote; not all that young. I've also read that guys have been only given a choice of fuglies and grandmas (over 40) at these Class A establishments that you highly reccomend.

I'm just looking for info. I'm not challenging you in anyway. I will be visiting HK in November. At this point I do plan on visiting both KP and 37 Dundas. But, after viewing the pics in the link, I am also inclined to investigate the Class B places also.

My questions are simple.

How do the girls at KP and 37 Dundas compare in looks to the girls in the link above?

You have suggested big danger in visiting the paper sign YS "Class B" establishments. Do you have any evidence of danger associated with these places or do you just have a bad feeling about them. The experience you described of the girl hitting you up for an extra 100HK over the 260HK you had originally negotiated doesn't sound so terrible. I've been in somewhat worse situations. Then again, I am not looking for trouble. So what examples do you have of visitors having real problems in these Class B places?

Thanks for your input and take care.

N1

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Nope, you guessed wrong. You may recall in my post I stated it depends on which island you are on. The island I was referring to was......can you guess.......... I will give you a hint, it is in the Visayas. Second hint, it is near the island of Cebu. You give up?? The island I was referring to is Camotes Island. It is a less than an hour boat ride from Cebu City. And, the info I gave was correct.........as always. : - )[/QUOTE]


I will actually be visiting Cebu as well as Hong Kong during this visit. I haven't come across a reference to Comotes in the past. I will look it up. Very good prices versus the downtown GoGos in Cebu. Only an hour away! I'll give it a look.

Thanks for the info.

Hey, it will be my first P4P in Hong Kong, Macau and Cebu. I've hit most of the LOS and the PI and will be hitting the regular places again on this trip - BKK, Pattaya, Manila, AC and Subic. HK and Macau will be completely new. I've been to Cebu; but I brought sand to the beach on that one trip, so it will be basically a new P4P experience for me also.

Take care,

N1

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Nope, you guessed wrong. You may recall in my post I stated it depends on which island you are on. The island I was referring to was......can you guess.......... I will give you a hint, it is in the Visayas. Second hint, it is near the island of Cebu. You give up?? The island I was referring to is Camotes Island. It is a less than an hour boat ride from Cebu City. And, the info I gave was correct.........as always. : - )[/QUOTE]

Now I haven't gone back to look if you said anything about "it depends on which island you are on". I guess I'll have to go back and look that up. I looked in my recently purchased Rough Guides to the Phillipines travel guide. It's a god awful travel guide and I simply know almost more than what's provided in the guide. But, I did find a map and located the island. But, the tour guide said nothing of the place. Google search. Nothing also. Nothing to verify anything about what you stated.

These little off island places usually have no bars with GROs. Even Bohol is devoid of such places.

This is so off topic for the HK forum.. Let's move to the Cebu forum and you can educate all the guys there and me regarding your knowledge and experiences on Compotes. You can start with your hotel and where you found the girls for the prices you quoted. And maybe you can tell everyone how long ago this experience occured.

N1

Guys,

Compared to other places in Asia, the women in Hong Kong are overall pretty bad in terms of appearance. It is very difficult to find even decent looking women in Hong Kong. I would have to say that Macau, Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo and definitely Seoul has much better looking women. I mean yes it may be cheaper but man---sometimes there is really no quality control. Take for example the saunas on Hong Kong side, River Nile, Carnival and Kings in Northpoint, and also the saunas on the Kowloon side---some of the women--I would not even consider if it was for free. There have been numerous times where I just walked out and paid the sauna fee and said you have to be joking right?

Best bet is take the ferry to Macau it only takes an hour to get there---price is similar to HK and the selection is much better. At least you won't get the old and hideous looking pros. And don't even get me started on Wan Chai----this place is for the desperate that don't know better.

From Member "Nuevo"

Dear Undercoverh,

You have stated a number of times that the YS with paper signs are not safe (you designate these places as B class). That's unfortunate, as the link I retrieved above that was posted earlier with all of the pics indicates that a lot of these Class B girls are quite pretty and young.

I've read a number of reports on this forum and others suggesting that the KP and 37 Dundas girls were not so pretty and as you suggest in your quote; not all that young. I've also read that guys have been only given a choice of fuglies and grandmas (over 40) at these Class A establishments that you highly reccomend.

I'm just looking for info. I'm not challenging you in anyway. I will be visiting HK in November. At this point I do plan on visiting both KP and 37 Dundas. But, after viewing the pics in the link, I am also inclined to investigate the Class B places also.

My questions are simple.

How do the girls at KP and 37 Dundas compare in looks to the girls in the link above?

You have suggested big danger in visiting the paper sign YS "Class B" establishments. Do you have any evidence of danger associated with these places or do you just have a bad feeling about them. The experience you described of the girl hitting you up for an extra 100HK over the 260HK you had originally negotiated doesn't sound so terrible. I've been in somewhat worse situations. Then again, I am not looking for trouble. So what examples do you have of visitors having real problems in these Class B places?

Thanks for your input and take care.

N1[/QUOTE]


Dear Nuevo,

It appears as if you were reading my post with the intend of TRYING to find something wrong with it. Why else would you have misunderstood several simple points I was making regarding YS and twist my statements into something else resulting in your misunderstanding. Whereas, others who have read my comments have not misunderstood them. I know this to be true by the fact that I have received PM from readers.

I will not list all the misunderstandings, but here is a few examples of what you wrote: "You have stated a number of times that the YS with paper signs are not safe (you designate these places as B class)." Nope, I never stated that. I stated the Class A YS give you better service. The Class B and lower tend not to be high on the service scale. As far as safety, I wrote about how a person needs to judge that for himself depending on several factors.

With respect to your comments, "I've also read that guys have been only given a choice of fuglies and grandmas (over 40) at these Class A establishments that you highly reccomend." Your statement is the reason why I give a disclaimer on some of my post. My disclaimer generally states that "your mileage may vary." In other words, of course there will be times when the girls are not that lovely or too YOUR personal taste on a certain night that you or someone else visit the YS. And of course, sometimes, the more younger and lovely girls may have already been picked and what they have left is what you are viewing.

[QUOTE=Nuevo]Now I haven't gone back to look if you said anything about "it depends on which island you are on". I guess I'll have to go back and look that up. I looked in my recently purchased Rough Guides to the Phillipines travel guide. It's a god awful travel guide and I simply know almost more than what's provided in the guide. But, I did find a map and located the island. But, the tour guide said nothing of the place. Google search. Nothing also. Nothing to verify anything about what you stated.

These little off island places usually have no bars with GROs. Even Bohol is devoid of such places.

This is so off topic for the HK forum.. Let's move to the Cebu forum and you can educate all the guys there and me regarding your knowledge and experiences on Compotes. You can start with your hotel and where you found the girls for the prices you quoted. And maybe you can tell everyone how long ago this experience occured.

N1[/QUOTE]

Yap, "been there, done that." I have already written a bit of info about my visit to that island on a previous post for PI. As for looking in a travel guide (that you would buy in a regular bookstore) to find out about cheap sex with young girls (OVER 18) on small islands in the Philippines........it is unlikely you will find such information in those types of books.

I've written a coupla times on Gam Sing (Golden City) -- 141 Portland.

Been there a few times now and it just gets better. There are some great girls there -- somewhat blowing Bam Man's illinformed comments out of the water.

What I particularly like is the water bed. Tell Nancy (the mamasan) you want the girl to use the water bed, and then when you enter the shower, the girl will have set the water bed up with a towel on it and you get washed, licked, BMed, lying on your front and then your back. Great relaxing service -- you dont have to stand up to be counted as youre getting cleaned.

And often the time up buzz has gone when I'm still on the water bed.

Gam Sing and the water bed -- $490 well spent.
Highly lickommended.

JS

JS

I am relative newbie to board with only couple of post, so please excuse my posting mistake.

Below Kev 3x mase refercnce to meeting maids in yahoo chat rooms.

Does some one have this link they can post on board.

I will be heading to HK next week and I will plan to post reports upon my return.

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Is it just me, or did the price of hotel in K Pressure just go up? I went last Saturday, girl was 390 but the hotel was 108, not 100 like reported previously by other memebers. Not that it is a problem. Just reporting my experience from Saturday. Maybe it is the weekend thing?

[/QUOTE]

I think that the hotels either change their prices slightly based on demand, or sometimes there are more hotels in the same building that charge slightly different. At 37 Dundas, for example, I've been in two different hotels on two different floors. The one on the top floor only charged us 80 for the room (and the girl actually gave me the $20 back!!), but the middle floor hotel charged full price. But that was Tuesday vs. Saturday night as well, so my research is not yet complete.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]

Dear Nuevo,

It appears as if you were reading my post with the intend of TRYING to find something wrong with it. Why else would you have misunderstood several simple points I was making regarding YS and twist my statements into something else resulting in your misunderstanding. Whereas, others who have read my comments have not misunderstood them. I know this to be true by the fact that I have received PM from readers.

I will not list all the misunderstandings, but here is a few examples of what you wrote: "You have stated a number of times that the YS with paper signs are not safe (you designate these places as B class)." Nope, I never stated that. I stated the Class A YS give you better service. The Class B and lower tend not to be high on the service scale. As far as safety, I wrote about how a person needs to judge that for himself depending on several factors.

With respect to your comments, "I've also read that guys have been only given a choice of fuglies and grandmas (over 40) at these Class A establishments that you highly reccomend." Your statement is the reason why I give a disclaimer on some of my post. My disclaimer generally states that "your mileage may vary." In other words, of course there will be times when the girls are not that lovely or too YOUR personal taste on a certain night that you or someone else visit the YS. And of course, sometimes, the more younger and lovely girls may have already been picked and what they have left is what you are viewing.[/QUOTE]

Dear UCh,

My intent is not to find anything wrong with the facts of your posts. You appear to be quite knowledgeable of the HK P4P scene. I certainly am not. I've never visited HK; I'm just doing research for my upcoming trip.

I am interested in possibly visiting the paper sign "Class B" YS places simply because the girls' pics in the link I provided from an earlier post in this thread. The girls looked pretty damn cute. I've been around long enough to know all about YMMV and mine has certainly varied a lot in my past visits to Asia. That's why I do a lot of research and ask a bunch of questions. I want to improve my potential for a good mileage experience.

The major question I had was concerning whether you had any knowledge of actual harm coming to visitors to the Class B YS establishments. This is a straight-forward question. Nothing more than that. If you have that knowledge, please share with me and other members of the forum.

You wrote a couple of very informative reports on 8 Mong Tok at the end of July. I sensed you recommended the place; but again I may be wrong. From your descriptions this sounded like one of the Class B places you referred to earlier. Is this place still worth a look?

Thanks,

N1

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Yap, "been there, done that." I have already written a bit of info about my visit to that island on a previous post for PI. As for looking in a travel guide (that you would buy in a regular bookstore) to find out about cheap sex with young girls (OVER 18) on small islands in the Philippines........it is unlikely you will find such information in those types of books.[/QUOTE]

I guess I will have review all of your posts to find the report you are referring to as I am interested in what you had to say. Please do not insult me again. This final statement from you was obviously intended as such. "As for looking in a travel guide (that you would buy in a regular bookstore) to find out about cheap sex with young girls (OVER 18) on small islands in the Philippines........it is unlikely you will find such information in those types of books." My intent is to do research for my upcoming trip. I do my best to avoid forum fights as they serve no practical purpose for me or the forum.

Take care,

N1

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Yap, "been there, done that." I have already written a bit of info about my visit to that island on a previous post for PI. [/QUOTE]

Dear UCh,

No PI reports in any of your 166 posts going back to 09/06. Maybe you posted this info on another forum? Care to share where this post occured?

This is not a challenge. Just provide a link.

Thanks,

N1

I live in Shenzhen. Stayed a couple of days in Hk, so decided to give the (in)famous 37 Dundas a try.

Saw 2 lineups of 3 girls each. As mentioned before in previous reports, girls are not that great looking. Out of the total of 6 girls, I could have picked 3. Would have walked out rather than pick the other 3. Picked the one that had the biggest smile on her face.

The service was excellent! This has been reported before about 37 Dundas, and I can only confirm it. Quick and efficient scrub in the shower, she gets down on her knees. After a few minutes of BBBJ, she asks if I want to cum. Yes ma'am, and can I come in your mouth too? No problem, she says with a smile, so it's the first CIM.

A quick wash, and then onto the bed. Did some resting (feeling her up) for about 10 minutes, and then she went to work. Quick catbath including sucking on fingers and toes, and then she flipped me over for some AR. No anal action (she said I was too big and her a-hole too small), but her pussy was tight like hell. Not sure how that is possible. After about 10 minutes of fucking, phone rang. It's the 10 minute warning. I asked her to finish me off in her mouth. She said OK, again with a big smile. That was the single biggest difference between service in southern China and HK. Very friendly, polite and enthusiastic in HK.

She tried to get me to do a 3rd shot, which means extending another 50 minutes no doubt. I was tempted, but declined. 2 shots was enough. Did get her phone number though. She goes to Shenzhen (Luohu and LongGang) every couple of weeks. She asked if I want to hook up with her in a bar/disco. Yes ma'am, if you will blow me in a back alley or my car.

I spoke English to the mamasan because she started yapping Cantonese at me, and I don't speak Cantonese. So she never asked if I was happy, or had any complaints on the way out. I did notice that her English was rather basic. Next time I will speak Mandarin, maybe that helps.

Place: 37 Dundas, followed the sign that says "man's paradise, 390 HK$"
Time: Thursday, 3 pm
Cost: 390 HK$ for the girl, 100 HK$ for room, 50 HK$ tip (optional). You can take 2 girls for 780 HK$ total.
Duration: 50 minutes
Girl: From Chongqing, 26 she says
GFE: 10!
Face: 7
Body: 5 (A Cup)
DFK: Yes
Pros: 2 shots, CIM both times
Cons: no anal
Overall: 8

Hello,

I'm almost on my way to go to 37D, and as purple asked on a previous report.

I have questions regarding what we can expect.

Wadman had a great time in 37D with 2 CIM.

Is that a standard to get CIM?

Is that extraball included in the original price?

Thank you

[QUOTE=Pierre Lantenaq]Hello,

I'm almost on my way to go to 37D, and as purple asked on a previous report.

I have questions regarding what we can expect.

[/QUOTE]

This is standard operating procedures at 37 Dundas. I'll assume you don't speak Cantonese.

- You nervously enter facility
- Hostess greets you
- Takes you to a small karaoke room
- Asks if you want something to drink
- Brings you drink and a girl
- At this point, you can refuse and ask for another. Or ask a lineup.
- Once you find an acceptable girl, hostess leaves and girl sits next to you in private room
- Awkward conversation (or silence). Don't expect any English or only minimal English.
- Hostess returns, checks if you find girl OK
- If OK, you pay hostess $390
- You and girl exit room and the facility
- You and girl walk up two floors to a hotel
- You pay $100 for a room
- You do the deed. Extensive showering, BBBJ in shower and on bed, anal rimming, big bang. You'll get DATY two-thirds of the time. CIM is very rare.
- Phone rings telling you your 45 minutes is almost up
- You shower and dress
- Tipping her is optional. Some will refuse.
- You and her exit room and hotel
- As you walk downstairs, past 37 Dundas, hostess asks for you to rate your experience
- You return on Dundas Street with less sperm and cash.

[QUOTE=Wadman]I live in Shenzhen. Stayed a couple of days in Hk, so decided to give the (in)famous 37 Dundas a try.

Saw 2 lineups of 3 girls each. As mentioned before in previous reports, girls are not that great looking. Out of the total of 6 girls, I could have picked 3. Would have walked out rather than pick the other 3. Picked the one that had the biggest smile on her face.

The service was excellent! This has been reported before about 37 Dundas, and I can only confirm it. Quick and efficient scrub in the shower, she gets down on her knees. After a few minutes of BBBJ, she asks if I want to cum. Yes ma'am, and can I come in your mouth too? No problem, she says with a smile, so it's the first CIM.

A quick wash, and then onto the bed. Did some resting (feeling her up) for about 10 minutes, and then she went to work. Quick catbath including sucking on fingers and toes, and then she flipped me over for some AR. No anal action (she said I was too big and her a-hole too small), but her pussy was tight like hell. Not sure how that is possible. After about 10 minutes of fucking, phone rang. It's the 10 minute warning. I asked her to finish me off in her mouth. She said OK, again with a big smile. That was the single biggest difference between service in southern China and HK. Very friendly, polite and enthusiastic in HK.

She tried to get me to do a 3rd shot, which means extending another 50 minutes no doubt. I was tempted, but declined. 2 shots was enough. Did get her phone number though. She goes to Shenzhen (Luohu and LongGang) every couple of weeks. She asked if I want to hook up with her in a bar/disco. Yes ma'am, if you will blow me in a back alley or my car.

I spoke English to the mamasan because she started yapping Cantonese at me, and I don't speak Cantonese. So she never asked if I was happy, or had any complaints on the way out. I did notice that her English was rather basic. Next time I will speak Mandarin, maybe that helps.

Place: 37 Dundas, followed the sign that says "man's paradise, 390 HK$"
Time: Thursday, 3 pm
Cost: 390 HK$ for the girl, 100 HK$ for room, 50 HK$ tip (optional). You can take 2 girls for 780 HK$ total.
Duration: 50 minutes
Girl: From Chongqing, 26 she says
GFE: 10!
Face: 7
Body: 5 (A Cup)
DFK: Yes
Pros: 2 shots, CIM both times
Cons: no anal
Overall: 8[/QUOTE]


Good report with a lot of good detailed info! I noticed you wrote about taking 2 girls! Once, I did that but I do not recall the price. Also, I recall that with 2 girls, 50 minutes goes by so fast. For guys who want to 2 (or more) girls, you may want to ask about longer time and what is the additional cost.

Also, the girls I picked were not that comfortable with each other, which is understandable if they do not know each other. You may want to pick one girl, and then have her pick her friend, that may make the experience more enjoyable for everyone. I am no expert in taking 2 babes, these our just my helpful tips based on my experience.

You raise a good point about the looks of the girls and service. Overall, (in my opinion based on my taste) most of the girls you will find at 37 D can be rated between 6 and 7.5 (on a looks scale of 1 to 10, 10 being best). And a few girls can be rated 8. And there are those lucky times when you find a 9 or 10.

But the thing that keeps me coming back, as you mentioned, is excellent service at 37 D. At other places or countries in Asia, I have paid more and had girls who are superstars (e.g., 10+), but the service was just ok most of the time. As I get older, I want excellent service and I am ok with the fact the girl is not a superstar. The fact that she gave me excellent GFE service and she is Chinese (hey, what can I say, I love Chinese women) makes her more attractive to me.

With 37 D reputation for excellent service, taking 2 or more girls would truly make a guy feel like he is in a porno movie and he is the star--especially if both girls give you a BBBJ at that same time!! (^_^)

Is there a decent escort scene in Hong Kong (higher class than Wanchai)?

Does anyone have any recommended websites?

Is there a decent high level escort scene in Hong Kong?

I see lots of postings for Wan Chai etc but nothing for escorts.

I arrived in Hong Kong last Saturday evening direct from the States around 10 PM, so I thought I would freshen up and do some exploring. I really only wanted to have a beer and relax since I was somewhat jet-lagged. I went first to Fenwicks - which was packed. The available talent was plentiful with the usual Thai's, Pinay's, and a very few Columbians. I was getting ready to leave around 1, and I noticed a great young Pinay named Joanna (taller than most and a solid 9 out of 10). One thing lead to another, and my jet-lag didn't seem to be an issue. We talked for about 30-45 minutes and she decided that she wanted to accompany me back to my hotel. I stayed at the LKF Rombus Hotel just above Lan Kwai Fong. Before we went to the room we decided to have another drink on the top floor bar that was really jumping. Retired to the room, and I was totally satisified. Started with a shower where she gave an excellent BBBJ. After about 20 minutes in the shower we retreated to the bed. Everything was GFE, and she was very talented at every position. I have never been able to tell for sure if the girls are great actresses, or really into it. Joanna was so wet and into what we were doing that this time there was no doubt! After about 3 hours in the room, I was totally wasted. Off to sleep we both went, only to repeat the whole series in the morning around 9 AM, Breakfast followed and she went on her way. Below are the vital statistics:

Girl: Joanna 26YO
Face: 9+
Body: 9+ with a great natural breasts!
Service: 8+
Attitude: Deed 8, massage and after deed service 9+
Damage: HK$1000 (about US$140) LT

The next day, I decided to try the YS establishments. I also decided that it was time for me to visit a local Pharmacy to pick up a supply of Cialis. Thanks to APAC Man, it was very easy for find "real" Cialis. I thought I should share again the detailed information he sent to me as it was very easy.
1. Take the MRT to the "TSIM SHA TSUI" Station. (It is the "RED" line)
2. When you arrive at the station, look for the "Hanoi Road" Exit. (I believe it is Exit M).
3. Walk about 75 meters, and you will find the "Tak Long Pharmacy" on the right as you exit the MRT.
4. You will need a prescription for VIAGRA, but not prescription is necessary for CIALIS. I bought a box of four tablets for HK$380.

After the visit to TST Tak Long Pharmacy, I decided to visited a location in the Foremost Building just just one exit up (Jordan) right next to the Jordan Road MTR exit. I went to the 7th floor and found the girl that I had seen on the 141 site. Overall, I would say that the experience was alot less than GFE, and I probably will not repeat. The girls was good, but very mechanical to approach to the 60 minute visit. Statistics below:

Girl: Anna 25YO?
Face: 7+
Body: 7+ 36-25-35
Service: 6+
Attitude: Deed 6
Damage: HK$500 (about US$70)

WOODMAN

[QUOTE=Woodman]
After the visit to TST Tak Long Pharmacy, I decided to visited a location in the Foremost Building just just one exit up (Jordan) right next to the Jordan Road MTR exit. I went to the 7th floor and found the girl that I had seen on the 141 site. Overall, I would say that the experience was alot less than GFE, and I probably will not repeat. The girls was good, but very mechanical to approach to the 60 minute visit. Statistics below:

Girl: Anna 25YO?
Face: 7+
Body: 7+ 36-25-35
Service: 6+
Attitude: Deed 6
Damage: HK$500 (about US$70)

WOODMAN[/QUOTE]

Hello Woodman,

Nice report. I am interested in some thoughts regarding the 141 experience you had in the Foremost Building.

My first trip to HK is coming in November. I will also be visiting the LOS and PI where I have enough experience to get by.

I am going to try the 141s at least a couple of times. I am staying at the Evergreen in Jordan, so the Foremost is a short walk from my hotel.

My questions are:

How did you decide on Anna? I went to the site and there are 6 girls listed including Anna on the 7th floor. All of them look to have nice bodies. I know these pics are typically photoshopped from my research. Without seeing their faces; how do you choose?

Second, if you would be kind enough to go back to the site and look at the girls on the 7th floor there is a girl "Yoyo" that has a picture of her door on the seventh floor at the bottom with the "How do you find Yoyo" pics. How do you know if the girl is available or not via the signs on the door?

Finally, I a gweilo (white American). I speak no Chinese and certainly can't read Chinese script. Any suggestions concerning best times to arrive when the halls are not filled with local customers. I don't think safety will be a problem, but it could be uncomfortable walking the halls crowded with a bunch of locals that may or may not make you feel welcome.

Thanks and take care,

N1

[QUOTE=Nuevo]
My first trip to HK is coming in November. I will also be visiting the LOS and PI where I have enough experience to get by.
[/QUOTE]

If you go to the Reports of Distinction, there are a couple of real good 'primers' on 141. They'll pretty much answer any questions or concerns you might have.

A couple of suggestions:

1. Although 141 site is fairly up-to-date, not everyone is always available. Been prepared for your 2nd, 3rd, 4th alternative. Their website is always configured to be used by a smartphone, I was able to access it with my old Treo 600 if I needed to find 'backup'

2. Most pix are photoshop.

3. Many non-Chinese speaking mongers patronize 141. Sign language works fine, even better if your smartphone can show her the site!

4. What someone reported might be 'stale' by the time your visit. Lots of turnover.

Hi,

Day 1... Arrived at HK airport at 2pm, arranged a small bus for 400 HK$ to hotel. ( We were 6 persons stying at 3 different hotels ). Arrived at Cosmopolitan Hotel ,checked in. Nice clean hotel, totally girlfriendly ( info below ) but will not be staying here again. The rooms are extremely small even for Hong Kong, and getting there is a little bit tricky. It is not in the centre of Wanchai it is actually closer to Causeway and the nearest MTR is not that near. Taxi seems to be the only way for a lazy guy like me. ( Though they had a shuttle service to Causeway MTR station ).

They messed up the reservation and put me in a double room with my collegue who is 53 years old and has nothing to do with mongering. ( I am 31 by the way ). We both know eachother and wanted to switch to single rooms. They didnt have a single room left at the same floor, I said that is not a problem, put me on a different floor. They did. Arrenged my things in the new room before discovering it is on a non-smoking floor. Switched again, and about 2 hours after arriving to hotel I managed to get into the bed for some sleep.

Awaken by the phone after 15 mins of sleep. The 2 guys I met on the plane and shared the bus with, invited me to dinner. It was their first time in Hong Kong and they seemed to think that I could be their tour guide. Apologized and said I needed to sleep at least for a couple of hours, and that I already have an appointment with a friend of mine living in Hong Kong, who is also following my business in HK and China. I invited the guys too so they can meet him. They accepted and agreed to meet me at 7 pm.

Woke up, showered, dressed and went to the lobby. The guys were already there and waiting for me. They didnt like their hotel and decided to switch to mine the next day. We went to Victory peak and had a nice dinner there.

Day 2... Did business stuff till 6pm. Came to hotel, showered, dressed and left for dinner. and yes I wasnt alone again. I usually like going solo for mongering but couldnt refuse the guys so decided I could wait for one more day for hunting. But it appeared to be that my friends were after the same thing too. I took them to Wanchai bars after the dinner, which I normally avoid becouse of the high costs ( I will be going to China and Thailand after Hong Kong no need to spend too much money in Hong Kong ). But my friends seem to like there a lot. It was a really funny experience for me. They took 2 Thai girls who approached them at the first minute. Very amateur but the girls were very pretty and they seemed to enjoy themselves so I didnt interfere. After 1 hour and a lot of drinks I couldnt resist the temptation and took the best looking girl there, she was very lively speaking and laughing all the time. Amy from Thailand. Stayed at the bar for about 30 mins more and left for the hotel. The price negotiated was 1000 HK$ for the night.

Arrived at the hotel, while going for the elevators through the reception desk we were approached by the concierge ( you should have seen the looks on my friends faces ). Told that we had to register our guests... Fair enough , I would have asked the receptionist if if they didnt. Trust me guys it is better for your safety. Left my friends and the girls at the lobby after collecting the girls ID's and went to the reception desk. I always try to leave the girls ID's reception desk even if they want to give them back after regitering I think it is safer this way.

Went to the room, showered had 2 shots in about 2 hours. Both were surprisingly near perfect. After I showered I told the girl she could leave if she wanted. She refused and she said she would stay till morning. OK for me, I had an appointment early in the morning so I went to sleep. But she was not sleepy and tried to tease me. I wasnt up for it, she started talking while she was trying to get my member awake. She just couldnt shut up, in 20 minutes I learned all about her family in Thailand, favourite movies,music,political wievs etc. I figured only way to sleep was to give her what she wanted, so started for another round which she happily welcomed. After a long and very nice session we both came again. It was near 4 a.m. when I showered an went to sleep. Tried sleeping when she was continiously talking. After some time, I told her to either shut up or leave ... in a polite way of course. So we both went to sleep.

Amy
Body 8 ... petite, just the way I like it. decent boobs, probably C.
Sex 10 ... BBBJ CIM COF , amazingly flexible , moaner
Attitude (?) Very cheerful and fun to be with but she just doesnt know to shut up.
Price 1000 HK$ for the night

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[QUOTE=Nuevo]Hello Woodman,

Nice report. I am interested in some thoughts regarding the 141 experience you had in the Foremost Building.

My first trip to HK is coming in November. I will also be visiting the LOS and PI where I have enough experience to get by.

I am going to try the 141s at least a couple of times. I am staying at the Evergreen in Jordan, so the Foremost is a short walk from my hotel.

My questions are:

How did you decide on Anna? I went to the site and there are 6 girls listed including Anna on the 7th floor. All of them look to have nice bodies. I know these pics are typically photoshopped from my research. Without seeing their faces; how do you choose?

Second, if you would be kind enough to go back to the site and look at the girls on the 7th floor there is a girl "Yoyo" that has a picture of her door on the seventh floor at the bottom with the "How do you find Yoyo" pics. How do you know if the girl is available or not via the signs on the door?

Finally, I a gweilo (white American). I speak no Chinese and certainly can't read Chinese script. Any suggestions concerning best times to arrive when the halls are not filled with local customers. I don't think safety will be a problem, but it could be uncomfortable walking the halls crowded with a bunch of locals that may or may not make you feel welcome.

Thanks and take care,

N1[/QUOTE]

Dear Neuvo:

You could have been describing me also as a "gweilo". Actually, I arrived at the Foremost Building around 2:30 in the afternoon on Sunday, so no one was in the halls. However, a couple of doors had the signs on them that indicated the girls was busy - that is how you determine if they are available or not.

I chose the Anna with the white top in her photo. The photo was photoshopped, but it was the same girl. Since I went to the Foremost Building with the proper expectations (getting laid only) my choice was based on the photo's.

As I mentioned, I probably won't repeat, but the experience was OK and did what I wanted to accomplish.

WOODMAN

[QUOTE=Nuevo]
Finally, I a gweilo (white American). I speak no Chinese and certainly can't read Chinese script. Any suggestions concerning best times to arrive when the halls are not filled with local customers. I don't think safety will be a problem, but it could be uncomfortable walking the halls crowded with a bunch of locals that may or may not make you feel welcome.

Thanks and take care,

N1[/QUOTE]

The 141 complexes are always filled with people when most of the girls are working. Avoiding the crowds would mean visiting when few girls are working.

Safety is never an issue with large 141 complexes. Although, as a gweilo, you will indeed stand out in Jordan. If you don't mind that, and there's no reason you should, this isn't an issue. Other patrons will not give you a hard time. Hong Kong is a very "me-me" society. They don't care unless you bother them or you create a scene with unruly behavior.

If you do mind standing out, I suggest you visit the 141 complexes in Causeway Bay and Tsimshatsui. Those are visited frequently by tourists and expats.

[QUOTE=Nuevo]
Without seeing their faces; how do you choose?[/QUOTE]

You don't have to choose from web pics. For every 1 girl who advertises, there are 10 who don't. So the vast majority of talent are not visible online. Many 141 complexes houses hundreds of providers. You simply ring the doorbells randomly and see who answers. That's part of the fun of visiting a 141 complex. You don't know who will open the door.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend]The 141 complexes are always filled with people when most of the girls are working. Avoiding the crowds would mean visiting when few girls are working.

Safety is never an issue with large 141 complexes. Although, as a gweilo, you will indeed stand out in Jordan. If you don't mind that, and there's no reason you should, this isn't an issue. Other patrons will not give you a hard time. Hong Kong is a very "me-me" society. They don't care unless you bother them or you create a scene with unruly behavior.

If you do mind standing out, I suggest you visit the 141 complexes in Causeway Bay and Tsimshatsui. Those are visited frequently by tourists and expats.

You don't have to choose from web pics. For every 1 girl who advertises, there are 10 who don't. So the vast majority of talent are not visible online. Many 141 complexes houses hundreds of providers. You simply ring the doorbells randomly and see who answers. That's part of the fun of visiting a 141 complex. You don't know who will open the door.[/QUOTE]For whatever it is worth I echo FF's thoughts. Especially the one re: "diving in ". I say this as sometimes the photos on 141 site are obviously photoshopped, etc. And the info re: services rendered are not very detailed or accurate. An interesting note. Some buildings seem to specialize in certain types of girls. For instance, the King Hing building in Mongkok always has 6-8 girls who are all friendly, love to kiss, do multiple pops, and seem to love sex. Other locales I have tried in Kowloon don't measure up re: GFE. Not sure why this is, but is my experience.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]If you go to the Reports of Distinction, there are a couple of real good 'primers' on 141. They'll pretty much answer any questions or concerns you might have.

A couple of suggestions:

1. Although 141 site is fairly up-to-date, not everyone is always available. Been prepared for your 2nd, 3rd, 4th alternative. Their website is always configured to be used by a smartphone, I was able to access it with my old Treo 600 if I needed to find 'backup'

2. Most pix are photoshop.

3. Many non-Chinese speaking mongers patronize 141. Sign language works fine, even better if your smartphone can show her the site!

4. What someone reported might be 'stale' by the time your visit. Lots of turnover.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for input Traveler,

I did read through the RODs a couple months back. But, I was just starting my research back then. I probably should review them again.

Unfortunately I don't have a smart phone. I have a cheap stupid phone that I use when traveling. I lose these things every time I travel so I haven't invested in a phone that is smarter than me.

Take care,

N1

[QUOTE=Woodman]Dear Neuvo:

You could have been describing me also as a "gweilo". Actually, I arrived at the Foremost Building around 2:30 in the afternoon on Sunday, so no one was in the halls. However, a couple of doors had the signs on them that indicated the girls was busy - that is how you determine if they are available or not.

I chose the Anna with the white top in her photo. The photo was photoshopped, but it was the same girl. Since I went to the Foremost Building with the proper expectations (getting laid only) my choice was based on the photo's.

As I mentioned, I probably won't repeat, but the experience was OK and did what I wanted to accomplish.

WOODMAN[/QUOTE]

Hey Woodman,

Thanks for the reply. With regards to the signs, how will I know if the girl is busy. Is there a color code or something? I know this sounds like a dumb question. But, it would be easier if I had a clue. To be honest I haven't seen anything that I've read or remember reading that tells me how to determine if there a working girl behind these doors.

Again thanks for the previous response.

N1

[QUOTE=FurryFriend]The 141 complexes are always filled with people when most of the girls are working. Avoiding the crowds would mean visiting when few girls are working.

Safety is never an issue with large 141 complexes. Although, as a gweilo, you will indeed stand out in Jordan. If you don't mind that, and there's no reason you should, this isn't an issue. Other patrons will not give you a hard time. Hong Kong is a very "me-me" society. They don't care unless you bother them or you create a scene with unruly behavior.

If you do mind standing out, I suggest you visit the 141 complexes in Causeway Bay and Tsimshatsui. Those are visited frequently by tourists and expats.



You don't have to choose from web pics. For every 1 girl who advertises, there are 10 who don't. So the vast majority of talent are not visible online. Many 141 complexes houses hundreds of providers. You simply ring the doorbells randomly and see who answers. That's part of the fun of visiting a 141 complex. You don't know who will open the door.[/QUOTE]

FF, thank you also for your response. I don't mind standing out. I am pretty quiet and polite and I like to smile. I plan to visit a 141 in Causeway Bay on the day following my visit to a Jordan 141.

So here is another mundane question. I want to visit both 37 Dundas and the Foremost or New Lucky House bldgs on the same day. It will be a Saturday. I was originally planning 37 Dundas around 2:30 PM and the 141 experience around 8 PM. Would it be better to switch that around?

Thanks again,

N1

[QUOTE=Nuevo]Hey Woodman,

Thanks for the reply. With regards to the signs, how will I know if the girl is busy. Is there a color code or something? I know this sounds like a dumb question. But, it would be easier if I had a clue. To be honest I haven't seen anything that I've read or remember reading that tells me how to determine if there a working girl behind these doors.

Again thanks for the previous response.

N1[/QUOTE]

Nuevo:

The signs on the door say in English, "Busy now, please call later."

WOODMAN

[QUOTE=Nuevo] I was originally planning 37 Dundas around 2:30 PM and the 141 experience around 8 PM. Would it be better to switch that around?

Thanks again,

N1[/QUOTE]Yes I would swtch it around - I think there are better quality Gals on call at 37D after 8. I think by 2:30 most of the 141 gals will be on duty.

My first time to monger in Hongkong. Checked out Sands as it was near my hotel. Lots of Saunas in the area but chose this one as the facade looks safe and classy. Two girls at the lobby welcome you and guide you to an elevator that will bring you to the second floor. You pay at the counter $350HKD for a straight (?) 90 minute massage. I can see other "options" in their "menu" but it was in chinese characters and didn't bother to ask. You are brought to a locker where you leave your things... you go naked wrapped in a towel to the showers and you have the option to dip in a cold or hot pool. After the initial rituals, they take you to a waiting lounge where they sit down in a reclining chair as you enjoy a drink. After 15 minutes or so, you are then lead to the massage room with the pretty (but 30ish) masseuse waiting. The massage tables are pretty big with holes for your face as you lay down. However, the windows on the room doors looks like bad news for mongers. But mid-way during the very good massage, I asked the girl for what other services she offers... in hand signal, she motioned "hand job" and "blow job" but told me I should have informed the counter beforehand so that I will pay for the proper rates. But a legit massage for $350 is good enough reward. Will probably go back for the real action next time.

[QUOTE=Nuevo]H With regards to the signs, how will I know if the girl is busy. [/QUOTE]

I'd say 90% of the girls have signs in English. It would say "WELCOME" or "PLEASE RING BELL" on one side and "BUSY" on the other. These signs are usually printed by the people who run the 141 websites.

The signs may contain English, but don't expect them to speak it.

Even if the sign says WELCOME, sometimes the girl won't answer. They may shout something like "dil tou ah", which means "turn around". Maybe they're busy eating lunch or on a phone call and forgot to flip the sign. And since you're gweilo, there are some girls who won't answer because they don't service Westerners (they can see you on CCTV). It's rare for them to refuse business from a non-Chinese but you will definitely encounter it if you ring enough doorbells.

The bottom line is, do not be afraid to ring the doorbells. I know it can be intimidating, and I used to be intimidated too when I first started mongering at the 141 complexes. But these girls didn't spend thousands of dollars on rent to be left alone. They want patrons to ring because they need business. For every girl who won't service a Westerner, you'll find ten who would.

I think it's silly to rely on photos and ads from the 141 websites. Part of the fun is ringing the doorbells randomly and seeing who's inside. The manner in which they open the door usually reveals how they'd perform. Some will aggressively give a sales pitch. Others would have that "what the fuck do you want" look on their faces. So it's a great way to gauge their attitudes before you commit.

Even if I think the girl is acceptable, I would usually feign disinterest, give a smile, and start walking away. If they try changing my mind, there's a good chance she'll be a good performer. If they don't try changing my mind, hey, that's also good because I didn't waste my money on a non-performer.

Went to 37D 1-st floor for the first time on Saturday, wanted to compare it with K-Pressure. Rooms are smaller, no water bed, but I guess it all depends on a girl, doesn't it? First lineup of girls was not that impressive, so I asked to see more. The second one was even less interesting, but I picked one and off we went upstairs. She was very nice, held my hand, all that good stuff. Don't want to get into details since it was the routine described many times by others. Except for one detail. So she is my butt, doing the "tongue thing". And then she signals me to turn around and goes for the kiss! Holy smokes! I somehow managed to give her a kiss on a chick instead of lips, but that was a close call!

Overall, average experience, but will repeat. Certainly not with the same lady.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Nuevo]Thanks for input Traveler,

I did read through the RODs a couple months back. But, I was just starting my research back then. I probably should review them again.

Unfortunately I don't have a smart phone. I have a cheap stupid phone that I use when traveling. I lose these things every time I travel so I haven't invested in a phone that is smarter than me.

Take care,

N1[/QUOTE]

I've read of guys printing out most recent names, address, etc. (and in color) to carry with them.

And don't be shy about knocking on doors, saying no thank you and walking away - they certainly won't feel 'insulted' ;)

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]So she is my butt, doing the "tongue thing". And then she signals me to turn around and goes for the kiss! Holy smokes! I somehow managed to give her a kiss on a chick instead of lips, but that was a close call!
[/QUOTE]

Come on, LoveAsia! It's your own ass! Be a man. Next time, when this happens again, DFK her.

[QUOTE=Woodman]Nuevo:

The signs on the door say in English, "Busy now, please call later."

WOODMAN[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I'll stick with the English signs.

N1

[QUOTE=FurryFriend]I'd say 90% of the girls have signs in English. It would say "WELCOME" or "PLEASE RING BELL" on one side and "BUSY" on the other. These signs are usually printed by the people who run the 141 websites.

The signs may contain English, but don't expect them to speak it.

Even if the sign says WELCOME, sometimes the girl won't answer. They may shout something like "dil tou ah", which means "turn around". Maybe they're busy eating lunch or on a phone call and forgot to flip the sign. And since you're gweilo, there are some girls who won't answer because they don't service Westerners (they can see you on CCTV). It's rare for them to refuse business from a non-Chinese but you will definitely encounter it if you ring enough doorbells.

The bottom line is, do not be afraid to ring the doorbells. I know it can be intimidating, and I used to be intimidated too when I first started mongering at the 141 complexes. But these girls didn't spend thousands of dollars on rent to be left alone. They want patrons to ring because they need business. For every girl who won't service a Westerner, you'll find ten who would.

I think it's silly to rely on photos and ads from the 141 websites. Part of the fun is ringing the doorbells randomly and seeing who's inside. The manner in which they open the door usually reveals how they'd perform. Some will aggressively give a sales pitch. Others would have that "what the fuck do you want" look on their faces. So it's a great way to gauge their attitudes before you commit.

Even if I think the girl is acceptable, I would usually feign disinterest, give a smile, and start walking away. If they try changing my mind, there's a good chance she'll be a good performer. If they don't try changing my mind, hey, that's also good because I didn't waste my money on a non-performer.[/QUOTE]


FF.

I appreciate your detailed and helpful response. I think I might just try a simple "Hello" and smile and see if the girl smiles back. If she smiles back and reaches for my hand or waves me in, then I will toss up some fingers as a way of negogiating price. Your responses have been very helpful and raised my confidence.

Take care,

N1

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I've read of guys printing out most recent names, address, etc. (and in color) to carry with them.

And don't be shy about knocking on doors, saying no thank you and walking away - they certainly won't feel 'insulted' ;)[/QUOTE]

Hey Traveler,

I've read of that also. I look like too much of a tourist as it is. I don't think I''ll print out anything to carry around with me. Maybe I'll make note of a few girls in a pocket notebook and ring some random bells also.

Take care,

N1

I am going to be out and about in Hong Kong tonight if anyone wants to share a few "lies" over a beer...or three. Heck I might even go all in and buy a round!
Drop me a pm or post your whereabouts if it sounds like a good idea!

Sky

Noticed for the last few weeks that places like Fenwick are very quiet even between Thurs. Sat no matter what time you go. Lots of girls but places are not buzzing anymore.complete lack of people. You could barely move before and now the fun seems to have gone and some of the average girls look so desperate.

And the quality of the girls seems to be going downhill. There were some very pretty viets a few weeks ago but now gone. The quality now is average apart from a few very hot ones. Especially one pinoy I have my eye on 10/10. She is absolutely stunning. Phew!

Is it the time of the year or general malaise in the global economy? Just doesn't seem fun anymore. And one of the things about going to Fenwick was the fun walking around and flirting and having a dance.

Went there for the first time today, never been to these 141 buildings. While the women in the building do vary in age (mid 20s-early 30s), I actually found the experience very relaxing. Ringing bell from bell, not knowing what type of girl is behind the door. I don't remember who exactly, I just remember mine was 6/F, unit D I think. Nice lady, late 20s, big rack, very good attitude. Had a nice massage and then BJ. I highly recommend it. I think I'll start doing this more often. Far cheaper than going to macau and easier to access than Shenzhen.

I was wondering. Does anyone know any other places like these buildings with maybe, slightly younger women? I mean attitudes and service arent THAT important, I'm Chinese and I speak both cantonese and mandarin fluently, if that makes any difference.

Thanks

Thanks to all the contributions, I feel well prepapred.

However, if I have little time, what would be the best venue to go after -
37 Dundas or the Fuji/other 141 buildings or the Wan chai bars for getting good GFE type of service (DFK, BBBJ, CIM if possible) from youngish ladies with good size tits at reasonable prices?

Also, how late or these venues open?

Thanks.

It was my first time to Coronet Court in North Point. It's about 2 blocks from the North Point MTR Station. You get to the 1st floor by walking up from the mini-mall on the ground floor or you can take the elevator (but don't trying walking down from the 2nd floor; doesn't connect). But everyone knows why you are going to the first floor, since it's packed with over twenty 141 girls (so I recommend the stairs). Went looking for HENEKEN since I've seen here before in Sai Wan.

Henenken

Flat 9, 1/F, Coronet Court, 321-333 Kings Road, North Point

Looks: 7.5/10

Performance: 9/10

Definitely PSE, lots of loud moaning & screaming, BBBJ, cim. She was so loud, we could see people stopping as they were walking by the door.

400hkd.

I would recommend. Lots of hard sloppy sucking and fucking. If you are looking for a porn star experience, I would recommend. Speaks some english also.

Hi,

Day 3 ... It was about 9 pm when I got free. I had dinner at Tsim Sha Tsui so I decided to check out some addresses that I took note from 141. All of them were in Mong Kok, so I took the MTR to get there. For some reason I always prefer girls in Mongkok area for 141 girls. They are a little bit cheaper and give better service comparing to the girls in Causeway and Wanchai. Or it is just that I am used to the area from going to yellow signed establisments for years and feel more at home there.

I have used yellow signs for years and not bot been using them for about 2 years now. I prefer 141 girls because there is no or very litttle price difference, it is safer, and the girls give better service. Though you can come across real stunners with great service in yellow signed establishments too. This is my experience only, and someone else might think differently.

I had 3 addresses in Mong Kok. I couldnt remember the faces or the ratings of the girls, so I went for the nearest one. I always use Centamap to take proper notes for the addresses. Otherwise it is very complicated ( especially Mong Kok ).

It was the Lee Man Building. The girl I came for was busy but I knew there were some other girls in the building. I always prefer buildings with at least couple of decent girls. I started looking for a door that could belong to a 141 girl. For those of you that doesnt know, the girls advertised on 141 have 141 logos, lots of stickers, ornaments on the doors. It is very easy to spot them.

I went to the 2nd floor and knocked on the door that I found. I liked the girl that opened the door so ı went in. The girl was decent looking with a decent body. I had no idea what the price was, she told me if I wanted a long session with body massage. I said OK because I needed a good massage. She doesnt speak a word of English other then saying "I love you" every 2 minutes which is both funny and annoying, we used sign language instead.

A weird thing happened when we were in the middle of sex. The doorbell rang, she opened the monitor and I saw that 3 guys outside and at least 2 of them had uniforms. I saw it for 2 seconds and it was black and white so I cant say what uniform they had. She signed me not to worry and we started where we left, the doorbell never rang again.

After the sex she did a very rough massage which I appreciated the next day. I stayed there exactly 2 hours, I think I was her last client and she didnt mind prolonging the session. I gave her 500 HK$ though the price was 450 or something like that. A little bit pricey for 141 but she gave a good service.

Covered blowjob, lactating tits, nice massage. Nothing very special but I think it was worth the money. If you guys are looking for a girl with massage skills in Mong Kok, you can check her out.

I still have one more day in Hong Kong. So, more to come.

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[QUOTE=Undercoverh]In Bangkok at the Soi Cowboy go-go clubs (which I was at 2 months ago for the weekend), to have the same experience you referred to (drink, dance, good looking babe to stay with you all night and longer) cost about $45.[/QUOTE]Huh? Barfine in Soi Cowboy is 500 or 600 baht, and short time is 2000. Room is 300 on top of that. Long time is 3000 and up. So total for short time is at least $60 (if you get lucky with a 1500 ST quote), and long time $100 and up. That is not counting drinks, at 100 baht for you and 150 for her.

Of course I'd love to be wrong about this.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Huh? Barfine in Soi Cowboy is 500 or 600 baht, and short time is 2000. Room is 300 on top of that. Long time is 3000 and up. So total for short time is at least $60 (if you get lucky with a 1500 ST quote), and long time $100 and up. That is not counting drinks, at 100 baht for you and 150 for her.

Of course I'd love to be wrong about this.[/QUOTE]


I know this is not the Bangkok post guys, but please bare with me for a moment.

"Rocksoff"
Often times in life, a person will pay a price for a service and assume everyone else is paying the same price. When in fact, this is simply not true. Case-in-point, as we all know, new cars of the exact same model, year, and make are not sold at the same price to ALL buyers. I think any knowledgeable and reasonable person would agree on this point. What you pay for the car is based on YOUR negotiation skills. The better your negotiation skills, the lower the price.

Now, expand this example to your experience on Soi Cowboy. Just because you paid a certain price for ST or LT, this does not mean everyone else is paying the same exact price you did. When you wrote, "and short time is 2000 and 3,000 and up for LT" What you are really saying is, these are the prices you had to pay. Paying 2,000 for ST and 3,000 or more for LT holds true for you, not everyone else. Again, the better your negotiation skills, the lower the price.

Where you may have been required to pay 3,000 and up for LT, I have paid 1,000 baht. Yap, 1,000 baht on several different occasions at Soi Cowboy for LT. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to say I am the King of Handsome. Nor am I bragging. I am just stating a fact. How can I pay 1,000 baht when some other guys pay 2 to 3 times more? Simply stated, over the years, I have fine tuned my negotiation skills when dealing with girls that sell sex in the open market (i.e., a go-go bar). Bare in mind, at places like Soi Cowboy, the girl sets her own price-whereas, the bar fine is set by management.

Don't get me wrong, I am not sitting there like I am in a board meeting going back and forth with hard core negotiations like I am negotiating a union contract. When I am with a Soi Cowboy girl, I treat her like a girlfriend when we are in the club. I treat them with respect, I am happy, playful (Thai women love that), and I find something in common with them (e.g., "oh you are from Khorat, I love Khorat, I have been there many times, the food is wonderful and the people there are so nice!").

This is a key point--I wait for them to suggest that we leave the bar for all night sex. If they never talk about it, I never bring it up and I move on. I always let them open the negotiation process.

If she talks about going with me for sex, I do NOT talk about price first. I first talk about us and the romantic time we will have. Again, I am treating her like a girlfriend, not like a girl that sells sex. These are only a few examples of what I do--which is all a part of the negotiation PROCESS--which can be fun and enjoyable.

Let's face it, the price a guy pays for most things in life (car, house, sex, or the salary he receives for a professional job, etc) is based on his ability to effectively negotiate. Those who can't negotiate or DON'T KNOW HOW, will pay the higher prices.

DISCLAIMER: I know that there will be guys who will disagree with some of the comments I made above. I am not interested in trying to debate the subject. The information I provide is simply based on my experience in the sex outlet I noted above. Of course, your experiences maybe different. Or, you may not be able to obtain the same results I have for whatever reasons. What works for me, may not work for you.

Where can I find regular chinese girls in Hong Kong (i.e. non working girls)?

Where do they normally go to party or meet guys?

Any success stories too share? What's their attitude towards gweilos? Do they at least dare to try one once in a lifetime?

I'm 24, in good shape and Brad Pitt's brother ( ok .. not exactly .. but i'm also not ugly).

Also, what's the best place to pick up chinese working girls in a bar-like setting?

[QUOTE=Dtoxer]Where can I find regular chinese girls in Hong Kong (i.e. non working girls)?

Where do they normally go to party or meet guys?

Any success stories too share? What's their attitude towards gweilos? Do they at least dare to try one once in a lifetime?

I'm 24, in good shape and Brad Pitt's brother ( ok .. not exactly .. but i'm also not ugly).

Also, what's the best place to pick up chinese working girls in a bar-like setting?[/QUOTE]

Try Lan Kwai Fong on just about any evening - but especially on the weekends.

WOODMAN

[QUOTE=Woodman]Try Lan Kwai Fong on just about any evening - but especially on the weekends.

WOODMAN[/QUOTE]MacDonald's or Starbucks.

Day 4.

I had about 2 hours of free time in the afternoon so I decided to check out another 141 girl. I was in Tsim Sha Tsui and I had to be there in 2 hours too. I had my suit and my briefcase so wanted something in walking distance. I found out that Hankow apartments was very close and went there.

I was not expecting anything special, just some midday fun to kill about 1 hour. The girl I went for, was not there so I rang her neighbour who was clearly a working girl (with the ads on the door etc. ). The girl ( actually a mid age woman ) opened the door. She was about 4 out of 10, but she spoke English. I was going to accept it or I was going to kill 2 hours in Starbucks. I said what the hell and went inside.

It was even worse when she got undressed. I went to the shower got back and said I just wanted a blowjob. She offered anal but I said no. After a long and nice blowjob I finished with COF. She was one of my worst experiences with a 141 girl, and I had about 50.

Not recommending to anyone except .... well not recommending at all. So tis proves that you need a good plan and a better backup plan when you are mongering.

Will be going to Shenzhen and Guangzhou tomorrow then to Thailand. So more to come.

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[QUOTE=Dtoxer]Where can I find regular chinese girls in Hong Kong (i.e. non working girls)?

Where do they normally go to party or meet guys?

Any success stories too share? What's their attitude towards gweilos? Do they at least dare to try one once in a lifetime?

I'm 24, in good shape and Brad Pitt's brother ( ok .. not exactly .. but i'm also not ugly).

Also, what's the best place to pick up chinese working girls in a bar-like setting?[/QUOTE]

LKF, Soho, Wyndam Street / Hollywood Road bars all very good pickings for legit girls up for a bit of fun.

Also Mes Amis and even sometimes Dusk Till Dawn in Wanchai (not lots of working girls in DTD as well).

Name: (Joey)
link is at 161sex dot com/ebiz.php?view=4854
Face: 3/5
Body Shape: 3/5
Skill: 5/5
Service: 5/5

Preconceived notions:
I expected a girl who likes DFK and BBBJ, and looks something like her pix and speaks English. I was looking forward to a good experience as reported by other acquaintances.

Actual:
I got better performance and GFE than I expected, but she has kind of a paunch which doesn’t show up too well in her homepage pix. Her hair is a little darker now. She comes from Chaing Mai LOS and she laughed at my broken Thai but complimented me anyway at me feeble attempts. She also speaks Cantonese, having lived in HK for about 5 years. She had a take charge attitude, but open to suggestions and not businesslike at all. She offered me something to drink and pointed to her nipple. She also offered me her bum but I’m not into that. Thick bush nicely trimmed with a good view of her pussy lips and clit. Not too tight but really knows how to use her pussy muscles (more on that later). $350 for ML, 400 including CIM.

Details:
No trouble finding the place, enter just to the right of 7-11 on Pilkin street half a block south of Jordan road. About 2:30 in the afternoon. Walked up to 1st floor and discovered there are 6 or 8 other little apartments next to hers, all with names of different websites stuck on their doors. Rang her bell and she welcomed me in dressed in some frilly panties and plunging bra. Introduced myself and we shook hands, she thanked me for choosing her out of all the other girls on the floor. A little small talk then off with the clothes and into shower. She scrubbed me all over and some soapy titty fuck then she filled two cups with warm and cold water and a little mouthwash. She started to BJ me with lots of eye contact, sucking noises, and licking her lips at me. It was sexy watching water dripping out of her mouth as I imagined cum dripping off her chin. I pulled her up to me for some DFK. She could see that I was enjoying this so we spent a lot of time hugging and sucking each other’s mouths and tongues before we finally dried off and moved to the bed. She told me to lie down on my back, snapped on the cap and then she proceeded with CG very slowly. I reached up to massage her boobs and noticed her eraser-nipples were rock hard. She started moving higher and higher till I almost fell out of her, I started plunging upward and she began to moan. She fucked me harder as she leaned down to lick my nipples and more DFK. Several minutes of this, then I told her to lie down while I knelt between her spread legs. She reached down and guided me in. I began fucking her, and on each upstroke she squeezed me with her pussy muscles like she was sucking me like a lollypop! Whooooaaaa man never had a girl do THAT before. Began fucking her deeper and faster and she moaned louder and louder with more tongue sucking. Whether she is feigning her pleasure or not is beside the point. She really knows how to turn me on and I finally can’t hold back any longer. “OOOh baby I’m gonna come!”, I announced. I pulled out of her, she ripped off the cap, sat up and put my dick in her mouth for CIM. She kept it in her mouth and sucked every drop out of me. Gee isn’t this is what guys dream of!!! We lay exhausted in each other’s arms and she suggested two girls for next time - her and her Thai friend who works next door but on holiday now. She suggested some of her other friends too, with a complete rundown of what they will and will not do, but I didn’t see their pix.. We exchanged phone numbers and I think this may be the beginning of a beautiful fuck buddyship.

Bottom line: Thai girls have never disapointed me and that includes Joey. $400 plus tip. She watted me, bowed, smiled at me and said “sawadee kaaaaaaaaaaaaaa”

Retry? Yea maybe with her friend, but there are so many girls and so little time. I love Hong Kong!!!

QH

[QUOTE=fish head jones]MacDonald's or Starbucks.[/QUOTE]

Please expand on and describe any confirmed experiences (yours or others you know are true) of picking up "normal" non-pro Chinese girls in MacDonald's or Starbucks.

[QUOTE=The World]LKF, Soho, Wyndam Street / Hollywood Road bars all very good pickings for legit girls up for a bit of fun.

Also Mes Amis and even sometimes Dusk Till Dawn in Wanchai (not lots of working girls in DTD as well).[/QUOTE]

Again, please describe your legit experiences. I would love to pick up some tips as everyone knows how difficult it is to pick up Chinese girls without weeks of romancing them and spending money.

I've seen coin operated lockers at the Shun Tak Macau ferry building. One can leave bags for several days. Also, there were bag drop off "leave bag" desks at some shopping centers. My query is if there are such lockers where I can store bags for a few days at the airport? I thought I saw signs saying so towards the airport express area, but never investigated.

Thanks, any confirmation with details (like need for coins to operate?) would be very helpful. Slightly off topic but helpful for the overall hobby. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Manfest]I've seen coin operated lockers at the Shun Tak Macau ferry building. One can leave bags for several days. Also, there were bag drop off "leave bag" desks at some shopping centers. My query is if there are such lockers where I can store bags for a few days at the airport? I thought I saw signs saying so towards the airport express area, but never investigated.

Thanks, any confirmation with details (like need for coins to operate?) would be very helpful. Slightly off topic but helpful for the overall hobby. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

While I don't believe there are coin operated lockers at the airport, there is indeed a place to store your belongings there. As you walk into the arrival hall, turn right and go all the way to the end -- you'll see a place called "Left Luggage". It's much more secure than lockers, with cameras and live attendants. It costs $50 HKD a day. It may be much pricier than lockers, but I wouldn't trust some shitty locker with my valuables.

[QUOTE=Kinger9988]It was my first time to Coronet Court in North Point. It's about 2 blocks from the North Point MTR Station. You get to the 1st floor by walking up from the mini-mall on the ground floor or you can take the elevator (but don't trying walking down from the 2nd floor; doesn't connect). But everyone knows why you are going to the first floor, since it's packed with over twenty 141 girls (so I recommend the stairs). Went looking for HENEKEN since I've seen here before in Sai Wan.

Henenken

Flat 9, 1/F, Coronet Court, 321-333 Kings Road, North Point

Looks: 7.5/10

Performance: 9/10

Definitely PSE, lots of loud moaning & screaming, BBBJ, cim. She was so loud, we could see people stopping as they were walking by the door.

400hkd.

I would recommend. Lots of hard sloppy sucking and fucking. If you are looking for a porn star experience, I would recommend. Speaks some english also.[/QUOTE]She sounds like my kind of girl. So I made a trip over from the Kowlon side to check her out. Took the subway and got off at the station before the one you listed, and walked up the street. From what I could see, this place is about mid way between the two stations on King Street.

However, I could not find the place. Found the address listed on 141. But it was a gold store (and it was closed at the time). Across the street on a side street had a range of addresses listed, went inside, but it was a legit appartment place.

I left HK for now, but when I return and the benefit of others, can you give some better info.

Hola gentleman

Here is some advice I gave to a friend who passed through HK recently

Hope it helps

Please see below

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Senor Roy,

Here is the info:

Your hotel is located in the western district of Hong Kong island close to the action.

Grab a cab to the wan chai district. About 10 minutes away.

Tell the cab driver. Wan chai, joe bananas. All the cabs know where this place is.

The cab will drop you off on the street where joe bananas is.

Check out joe bananas. On any given night there are some nice filipina, Russian or colombian chicks working the crowd.

Up the street is a club called neptune II. You can see the neon signs. Mostly thai & filipina chicks, some colombians occassionally.

Across from joe bananas is a club called spicy fingers. Great pinoy band that plays old school rock there. Sometimes there are girls there. Sometimes not.

Their sister club is called sticky fingers. They are on the kowloon side across the street from the regal kowloon hotel. It can be hit or miss. But I've seen some great looking ladies there available for pick up.

The adjacent street to joe bananas street is called lockhart road I believe you will find fenwicks here. The back door entrance is same side street as spicy fingers. If confused. Ask anyone. They all know.

In fenwicks. There are flavors for everyone. Filipina, thai, african, colombian, sometimes venezuelan, russians, etc.

They are all available. Don't be shy. Sometime the girls will hit on you if they like you. They can be real agressive.

Others like the colombians. You must approach. They look stuck up but are really not. You must make the move and be smooth. No need to speak spanish. You will see all kinds of guys in there. All on the prowl like you.

The ladies will ask you to buy them drinks. They will choose tequila rock & roll if you give them the choice. This they get commission from. It is 140 Hong Kong bucks per drink so be careful when offering drinks. Buy them one and then close the deal to go back to your hotel or move on to another chick or club.

If you don't see anything you like.come back in an hour as new chicks may have arrived. Happens all the time. Make the rounds at all the clubs to see who is hot and who is not.

There is a cheaper ladies drink. About 70 Hong Kong dollars as an alternative if you want to hang for awhile.

Heneken beer is about 35-40 HKD.

If they ask you to buy drinks for their friends. Just politely refuse.

Take out price for filipinas should be 1000 Hong Kong for all night. Some may quote you 1500. 00. Just refuse and let them know you are local and know the prices. Most will come down right away.

The later in the night it is. Say 2-3AM etc. You can get them down to 700-800 for all night. Thats' Hong Kong dollars. Their thinking will be it is better to get some cash then no cash for the night. Heck negotiate. If you only want to bang her for 1 hour. Offer 700 if it is early with the plan being you'll be back on the prowl for your next conquest a few hours later.

By the way. Cialis can be bought at any pharmacy for about 380 HKD for 4 pills. Walk in and ask for them like you've done it a 1000 times before.

Thai chicks. See filipinas above. Except much more business like. Whereas filipinas & other chicks more apt to give you the girlfriend experience. Your mileage may vary. But I have had some great thai chicks.

The colombianas will ask for 2000 HKD for 1 hour cause they think their pussy is made of gold.

Some of these chicks are stunning and will stick to that price cause they know someone will pay it. I've paid 2K HKD for an hour and she was sexy as ever.

If they like you. They might lower to 1500 or even 1000. Depending on how late it is. The hour can turn into multiple hours.

Fenwicks is open to like 5-6 AM.

Exchange rate. 100 US dollars = 770. 00 Hong Kong dollars.

If you exchange money in fenwicks. The rate will be 700 HKD for 100 USD.

If you do it at the hotel. The rate may be 710-720 HKD.

Best to exchange on the street to get the 770 HKD rate. Ask the concierge guy at the hotel to help you out.

Up the street from fenwicks are a whole bunch of other bars like new makati, amazonia, dusk till dawn etc. These are all hit or miss filled with filipinas, indonesians, and thai chicks.

The strip clubs have either filipina or thai dancers. Some are very beautiful. Most can be average with the better looking ones to be found at places like fenwicks. There have been reports of guys finding a 10 in the strip clubs. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder so tread carefully.

Most people think the strip clubs are clip joints. They can be expensive. Ladies drinks can be from 240-360 HKD per drink.

Usually if you buy 2-3 drinks for a stripper. She will offer to give you a blow job in a private corner there. This is the norm.

If you have to have a stripper. Take out can be 1500-1800 HKD for 1 hour and about 3000-3500 HKD for all night so better to hit the freeelancers at the clubs if cash is low.

The girls will steer you in the right direction as the mamasans will act nice but they are mercenaries. Sometimes it is a good idea to buy the mamasan a drink when you first get there. This may break the ice and she might take a liking to you and hook you up for less.

On the kowloon side. There is a bar in the lobby of the holiday inn called hari's. All kinds of chicks here. It varies. Sometimes many pretty ones. Sometimes all dogs. This can change hourly.

On Hong Kong island side. Grand hyatt regency has a bar called brix. Supposed high end talent there. About 300 USD per night is the average.

Other night clubs on kowloon side are called the new paris and big boss clubs. These are karaoke/tea clubs. Can be pricy. 3-5K HKD. I have never been there but I have heard they have nice chicks.

If you get the chance. Take the 1 hour ferry to macau. It runs 24 hours a day. Ask a cab to take you to the ferry terminal.

Darling 1, 18 sauna, big boss sauna are some choices. These are all fish bowl type with plenty of hot chicks. Thai, vietnamese, Chinese, and russians. About 200 USD for 90 minute session.

Hope this helps senor roy. Wish I was there with you. Hee hee hee.

Please delete this message off your email and commit to memory as I will do the same.

Also. Do not pay cover charge to get in to any of the clubs. The clubs charge covers to keep the locals out as they like it have the tourist and expat crowd as they buy drinks in bunches. They also charge the U. S. Military when they are in town.

Gracias,

El malo hombre

P.S. You may hear of a bar zone called lan kwai fong. This is where all the locals, yuppies, and business people go to party. Local HK chicks here but don't waste your time. Time is of the essense. Head over to wan chai for the sure thing instead of trying for a freebie in lan kwai fong.

They say they are plenty of horny white women at the lan kwai fong bars cause all the guys have yellow fever and want to bang all the asian chicks.

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[QUOTE=Bangind]hi
I will be in Hongkong from 13th to 16th I am posting this to seek some advice on wher to find some fun may some contacts of freelancers and pimps.
Thank you guys in advance. I hope I will be able to return the favour in due course of time when you visit india
regards
bangind[/QUOTE]

I will also be in Hong Kong during that duration. I can give you a tour of the 141 and Mongkok brothel scene. I'm a Chinese-American who can speak the local language and have a decade of experience mongering in HK. Just buy me a drink in return!

[QUOTE=Manfest]I've seen coin operated lockers at the Shun Tak Macau ferry building. One can leave bags for several days. Also, there were bag drop off "leave bag" desks at some shopping centers. My query is if there are such lockers where I can store bags for a few days at the airport? I thought I saw signs saying so towards the airport express area, but never investigated.

Thanks, any confirmation with details (like need for coins to operate?) would be very helpful. Slightly off topic but helpful for the overall hobby. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Please see:

[url]http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/passenger/arrival/t1/baggage/left-baggage.html[/url]

Regards,

APAC Man

I came over from Shenzhen in the afternoon and had one evening in HK before catching a plane the next morning.

I did some research, and decided to try Dundas 37 in the afternoon, and a 141 girl in the evening. As I posted in a previous one, I did find Dundas 37, but there were a couple places there. Chose the one on the second floor. And was greeted nicely, picked the first girl they showed me. And upstairs to the hotel. Cost was 450 including the room and a beer. The hotel room was very clean, and was glad to see the shower, as it was hot outside and needed a refreshig shower. Girl wanted to give me a CBJ, but agreed to a BBBJ to start. After an extended BBBJ, she mounted me, and rode me well. Then me on top. Then doggy. Finished me off with her hand as I sprayed her tits. Nice.

Found an "American" bar, near my hotel, (Royal Plaza), and had a few beers. Refreshed at the room, then decided to go to the Island to find the girl posted about in North point. As I posted, I could not find the place. Went to Wan Chai. Many barkers. Did not see anything worth wasting my money on. Stopped into a normal bar, and had a few beers.

Decided to head back to Kowlon before the trains stopped, and stumbled across the Hard Rock on my way to Sticky Fingers. No WG's in HRC, had a hot dog and beer, and left.

Sticky Fingers is right next to the Sheraton. Full of Filipino's some Thai girls and locals. Decent band. But when I got there, the nice looking girls were already taken. The police showed up outside about 1am, and they were talking with the owner to keep the noise down. The band went on break, and I decided to leave. Walked over to the cross walk by the SHeraton, and a pretty young girl walked up to me. Sa Sa was her name. And was very pursuasive to accompany me back to my hotel. I did not know about taking her back, as when I went back to change in the early evening, there was a security guy at the elevator, even though you need the key to get to your floor. Sa Sa said no problem, and she was correct. The bar in the lobby was still open, so we had a drink, then up to the room (the elevator is right there). I had to get up at 7:30 to catch my plane. But figured I can always sleep on the plane ride back to the USA. Sa Sa provided excellent service. Spoke very good English. And appeared well educated. She said she only does this from time to time for "extra" money, although she did not tell me what her normal job was. Had an extended session, and although she initially said 1-2 hours, she asked if she could stay the night. It was already 4:30, so why not. Got about 1 1/2 sleep. And gently woke her up. She was quite pleasant, and immediately started to give me a nice BBBJ. Almost came in her mouth, but was able to hold off, and go another round doggy style.

We both showered together, and went down stairs together. Kissed me good bye. Nice ending to my short stay in HK.

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Hello, went through 10 pages but could not find reports on procedure, service, overall experience with phone appointment girls in the Tsim Sha Tsui area. 141 has them (with HOT photoshopped pics) with a hefty price tag, 600 to 900 HKD but you 'd have to make hotel appointments.

I get the call to papa(mama)san with phone, confirm time and place, call once you get to the place, and do the deed...is this the right procedure?

It seems most businessmen go to TST for recreation or business and perhaps want to have a hottie before leaving.

With great info on 37 Dundas and K pressure and all those 141 and YS places, can some direct me or re-post some info on the TST phone appt girls?

[QUOTE=Babaluba]

The 141 girls which are advertised as Hotel Reservation means usually a pimp will answer and guide you to the Hotel he has his gem nestled in, as it was many times posted here. However I do not concur with the statement that they do not come to your room. Whenever I was lazy enough I just gave it a try and always found a pimp delivering a girl. And believe me I do not have the patience to call 10-15 numbers....

For that service you have to add a 100 HK extra, which is fine since they in deed use taxis and are fast (usually within 20-30 minutes). The pimp will call your hotel room to confirm you are actually there. My observation is that non-chinese girls (korean,japanese etc.) are usually not delivered, you have to go to their hotel, but most of the Mainland Chinese and HKnese can. I do not care because such foreign beauties usually start from 1300 HK$ which I find pricy and probably get better service in Macau for that money.

I must add that I do not speak any Chinese and usually stay in TST area. At least there it seems to work fine. Had a few cuties between 600-800 (+100)HK$ recently, which is still ok for me as its home delivery. Experience vary from true GFE to quite professional, but I find it not worse than going to the apartments.


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This is invaluable information, thank you.

The Hotel Reservation girls are hot as sin. Plus delivery to your own hotel? goodness gracious!

Hello fellow mongerers,

I hope I am posting in the right place. I had to click "add report" and this isn't exactly a report, but more of a hello. Hopefully I don't get flamed.

I absolutely love this forum and have been a lurker for a while. I am getting ready to join soon, but can't put in on my credit card due to my SO. Just found the info that I can mail in my cash! Yeah!

I just started traveling to Asia last year for my new job. I have only had one experience with a SW.

I was coming back from a quick dinner with my Chinese colleague walking into the Crowne Plaze outside of Shanghai. A gorgeous girl of maybe 25 in a nice, tight yellow dress was sitting in the lobby. She didn't even look like a working girl (I guess that's how she was allowed to sit in the lobby! ).

She followed me and my colleague to the elevator and got on. Didn't think anything of it. My friend got off at his floor, and the doors closed. She turned to me and asked, "Massage"? I said sure, she followed me to my room, took of the dress, undressed me, massaged me for 30 minutes, and then a nice happy ending. All the while I played with her boobies. LOL. The total was 300RMB.

I know that is what happened in Shanghai, but after that I was hooked, and now I am heading to Hong Kong.

I look forward to sharing my experiences and hopefully pics with you guys.

Mark17-I am staying at the Intercontinental Grand Stanford. Isn't that near the Sheraton you stayed at? I plan to go to Sticky Fingers. Sounds like you had a great time. You can bet I will walk past that Sheraton! Hopefully I will be as lucky! I will definitely let you guys know.

Thanks for all the great info everyone has provided during my "lurk" period. Now the fun starts!

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I just return from trip to China with stays in HK before & after.

I arrived in HK late Sunday night, by the time I got to hotel in TST it was after midnight. Could not sleep so I went out for beer. I was heading for Sticky Finger, but never made it out of courtyard in front of Regal Kowloon. Mamasan (amy) latched on to me and proceed to show me her girl, CiCi and Jo Jo. It was late so she made me 2 for 1 deal. 1200 HK

Both girls were extremely pretty, nice figures. Went back to hotel and proceed to get a quanited. Unfortunately these girls were not inot each other so it was not as good as I expected. Both girls gave me simultaneoulsy BBBJ, put they kept moving my units back and forth and kept making commnets about it.

Cici took the lead and Jo Jo sat back and watch. And massage my back and balls while perform DATY on her friend. Move to Mish and finsihed her doggie syle.

Meanwhile Cici ran to shower and Jo Jo moved in, unfortunately that night I was a one and done guy. Try as hard as I could, it was hopeless. JoJo promise to come see me in Monday afternoon to earn her money. I sent the girls home at about 3:00 am

Next Morning I ventured out about noon and hopped the MTR to mongok in search of 37 D. It took me a while but after walking past it 5-8 times I venture up to first floor.

Was warmley welcomer and escorted to nice room, where they show me 2 girls. I asked to see others, but was told only 2 girls since it was early. I chose CaCa, very nice China girls with medium boobs.

Went up stairs to hotel and was treat to spectacuar treatment in shower. OMG! Fearing a repeat of the previous night 1 & done, I had to cut shower treatment short. We proceeded out to bed and was treated to total GFE experience. I held out the whole time, the hotel kept ringin the phone to get us out of there.

I have to tell you I am sorry I never venture down to 37D before. Worst of all I never made it past 1st floor.

More to come on my return trip from China.

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Return to HK from China where I met up bith business collegue. We were staying in HK (TST) for 3 nights. We were bunking together so everything had to be outside hotel.

Day 1 I introduced him to 37 D (first floor) another fantastic experience, but slightly less than my first. Business partner could not believe it.

We ended up going back to 37 D 3 more times, all the experince were fantastic and my partner kept trying to get mamasan to go with him.

We never made it past 1st floor except to go to hotel, from what I am now reading there are other business on other floors at 37 D, which do you consider to be the best?

Our final night in HK was spent close to hotel in TST, we stopped by Sticky Fingers and it was pack, stop by MOdy's accross from Nikko it was packed with Japaneese kids on vaction.

On way back to hotel, we past the courtyard and ran into Mamasan's and their girls. We kept trying to hit on mamasan, little older but still very pretty. 1 girls said yes, and she told me she had apartment close by.

We walked past Shangra la and accross street to building on Catham (I believe). Went up to third floor and there was hotel on the floor.

Paid 100HK for room. Service from girl was just OK, paid her 700 HK and went home. I believe money would have been better spent at 37D.

We did venture to Wanchai but could not find fenwicks, next time we will.

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Went to see Lily in PE at Hung Luen Bldg on miss148. Was looking for BJ and wanted to try her out. Have been to other girls in this building for FS before. There is an apartment (non working family) that lives next door and always seems to leave the door open, but they have a curtain up so I rang Lily's doorbell. It's a quiet doorbell luckily, so the neighbors didn't come out.

A mature lady answered the door and looked ok, so I figured I'd give it a try. She showed me to one of the two bedrooms and I took off my clothes before shower. After shower I got out & Lily from the pictures was sitting there watching TV. She asked me if I wanted 2 girls, but I declined. There was also a third girl there (but seemed like their friend since she wasn't dressed for the part; kind of weird being naked in front of 3 strangers, but in this hobby it's hard to be shy about these things, so I just went with the flow). All 3 of these women seem to be in their late 30's or maybe even 40's (they all looked older than I was expecting). My original girl came in and dried off and gave me a massage for about 10 minutes. She was older and big, but I was kind of interested to see how good her BJ was. After I flipped over she started licking my nipples and made her way down between my legs. BBBJ was pretty good, but after a couple of minutes she got tired, I asked for more BJ, but eventually her jaw was too tired. She got a condom & put it on and then started CG. I liked seeing some of the rolls of fat bouncing up and down on top of me, good amount of fake moaning. Switch to mish for a couple of minutes, but I really like doggie. We switched to doggie and got really excited pounding her from behind, grabbing that big ass and shoving it deep into her. Finished in doggie, and she cleaned me up and we showered and I left. Was not a bad experience as long as you're in the mood for a big, mature girl. Today was one of those mature days for me.

I think this building has quite a few older women, not the young spinners in other areas.

Looks: 5/10
Performance: 7/10
Cost: 300
Address: Rm D, 13/F, Hung Luen Building, No 689-693 Shanghai Street, Prince Edward, Kowloon

[QUOTE=Mark17]She sounds like my kind of girl. So I made a trip over from the Kowlon side to check her out. Took the subway and got off at the station before the one you listed, and walked up the street. From what I could see, this place is about mid way between the two stations on King Street.

However, I could not find the place. Found the address listed on 141. But it was a gold store (and it was closed at the time). Across the street on a side street had a range of addresses listed, went inside, but it was a legit appartment place.

I left HK for now, but when I return and the benefit of others, can you give some better info.[/QUOTE]Mark17

Check out [url]www.centamap.com[/url] to find this building. It's located at the intersection of King's Road & North Point Road. There is a chinese mall downstairs (lots of local stores). Address is 321-333 King's Road, but there is also an entrance on North Point Road. Hope this helps, sorry about that.

[QUOTE=Kinger9988]Mark17

Check out [url]www.centamap.com[/url] to find this building. It's located at the intersection of King's Road & North Point Road. There is a chinese mall downstairs (lots of local stores). Address is 321-333 King's Road, but there is also an entrance on North Point Road. Hope this helps, sorry about that.[/QUOTE]

I went there the night of the typhoon and her door was locked... ended up having a mediocre experience with the girl in flat 18 whose name I don't remember nor do I care to.

I was in Hong Kong an extra night due to the typhoon, and used it to visit what I think is 37 Dundas. I saw no address on the door, but it was about the right spot. There were 2 doors with 360 and 390 on the signs. The 360 also had a blurb about being a liscensed night club or something, so I figured the other place was it. I went up the stairs. They took me down the hall to a room with a large couch and a TV. Told me it would be 490 for everything. I pointed out their sign said 390 but she said 100 was for the hotel room.

They brought in 4 or 5 girls, I don't think any spoke english, and I picked one with short hair and big boobs. We went up the stairs to the hotel where she actually gave them 100 (could have been saying in Chinese, "Ha ha stupid American. give this back to me when we're done.") There was a shelf full of liquid soap bottles and she grabbed one. Had a great shower with plenty of attention to the right spots. Then to the bed with a TV playing hard core US porn. More good times with her tongue up my ass and plenty of sucking. When it was condom time, I indicated the sucking was so good I'd just stay with it. Blew my load in her mouth. After she finished coughing, spitting and rinsing she invited me into the shower, cleaned me up, got me dressed and sent me on my way. Had a great time for about half of what I spend in a place in Shanghai.

By the way, if the hotel is upstairs, what are all the rooms for downstairs?

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[QUOTE=Kinger9988]Went to see Lily in PE at Hung Luen Bldg on miss148. Was looking for BJ and wanted to try her out. Have been to other girls in this building for FS before. There is an apartment (non working family) that lives next door and always seems to leave the door open, but they have a curtain up so I rang Lily's doorbell. It's a quiet doorbell luckily, so the neighbors didn't come out.

A mature lady answered the door and looked ok, so I figured I'd give it a try. She showed me to one of the two bedrooms and I took off my clothes before shower. After shower I got out & Lily from the pictures was sitting there watching TV. She asked me if I wanted 2 girls, but I declined. There was also a third girl there (but seemed like their friend since she wasn't dressed for the part; kind of weird being naked in front of 3 strangers, but in this hobby it's hard to be shy about these things, so I just went with the flow). All 3 of these women seem to be in their late 30's or maybe even 40's (they all looked older than I was expecting). My original girl came in and dried off and gave me a massage for about 10 minutes. She was older and big, but I was kind of interested to see how good her BJ was. After I flipped over she started licking my nipples and made her way down between my legs. BBBJ was pretty good, but after a couple of minutes she got tired, I asked for more BJ, but eventually her jaw was too tired. She got a condom & put it on and then started CG. I liked seeing some of the rolls of fat bouncing up and down on top of me, good amount of fake moaning. Switch to mish for a couple of minutes, but I really like doggie. We switched to doggie and got really excited pounding her from behind, grabbing that big ass and shoving it deep into her. Finished in doggie, and she cleaned me up and we showered and I left. Was not a bad experience as long as you're in the mood for a big, mature girl. Today was one of those mature days for me.

I think this building has quite a few older women, not the young spinners in other areas.

Looks: 5/10
Performance: 7/10
Cost: 300
Address: Rm D, 13/F, Hung Luen Building, No 689-693 Shanghai Street, Prince Edward, Kowloon[/QUOTE]


I have also tried this same building, room D, 8th floor--total let down! The girls pics showed a light skinned big boobs lady that did anal and she is available 24 hours a day, her name is "Slim." From the pics, she looked like she was maybe mid 30s. I got there about 10:30 p.m., and I was greeted by an ugly girl in her early 30s--not the one I was looking for.

Told her who I was looking for and she banged on a closed door in a back room. In about 5 minutes, Slim appeared in her PJs and clearly she had been in a deep sleep. Wearing old PJs, no makeup which made her look at lot older, and a shirt that showed some of her old tits with wrinkles. Her skin was darker than her pics, she was in her early 40's, and not attractive. This was truly an example of false advertisement! At that moment, I lost all interest. A big waste of time and effort. I did not pick either one of them and I left.

I guess this is the building where all the old ladies with worn out pussies go to retire. This is not like a 141 building, but more of a rest home for the elderly. My recommendation is to avoid this building, unless you like old ladies with worn pussies--not as if there is anything wrong with that! (^_^)

[QUOTE=PhilKrenshaw]I was in Hong Kong an extra night due to the typhoon, and used it to visit what I think is 37 Dundas. I saw no address on the door, but it was about the right spot. There were 2 doors with 360 and 390 on the signs. The 360 also had a blurb about being a liscensed night club or something, so I figured the other place was it. I went up the stairs. They took me down the hall to a room with a large couch and a TV. Told me it would be 490 for everything. I pointed out their sign said 390 but she said 100 was for the hotel room.

They brought in 4 or 5 girls, I don't think any spoke english, and I picked one with short hair and big boobs. We went up the stairs to the hotel where she actually gave them 100 (could have been saying in Chinese, "Ha ha stupid American. give this back to me when we're done.") There was a shelf full of liquid soap bottles and she grabbed one. Had a great shower with plenty of attention to the right spots. Then to the bed with a TV playing hard core US porn. More good times with her tongue up my ass and plenty of sucking. When it was condom time, I indicated the sucking was so good I'd just stay with it. Blew my load in her mouth. After she finished coughing, spitting and rinsing she invited me into the shower, cleaned me up, got me dressed and sent me on my way. Had a great time for about half of what I spend in a place in Shanghai.

By the way, if the hotel is upstairs, what are all the rooms for downstairs?
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You were at 37D. The $100 is for the hotel room and this is standard, you were not ripped off. The rooms downstairs are for karaoke although they are hardly ever used for that purpose (but I guess they'd let you if that was your thing). It's also a subterfuge for the cops if they are ever raided.

Thanks for the info Johnny.

Not all freelancers use massage joints. I had had an excellent time at 37D, (thank you to all the posters who recommended it!) and had also checked out the FLs on the streets further up that use the nearby yellow-lights. But I always like to be able to find some free-range action, so was keeping my eye open for other options.

I kept following my nose, sensing where I was getting a vibe that something more than the obvious was happening.

I remembered walking back from the Night Market (Temple Street) and seeing attractive girls who gave more than a normal eye-contact. They can't approach directly, but I was sure something was going on.

I went back the next two nights. I have hardly any Cantonese, but I reckon I could manage with body language. Trouble is, first time on a new patch and a lot can be done better with hindsight. The first girl I click with, there's just an unspoken chemistry and she nods. I think I manage the clipped and rising, "Hmm!" to signal agreement, and follow her at a short distance till she leads me to an upstairs flat. I am loving it. He body flows into mine as her palms push under my shirt. Suddenly I get the heebiejeebies for no reason. We haven't discussed price, she doesn't speak a single word of English and I'm worried that although it seems awesome there may be some big misunderstanding at the end. I bottle out with the best apologies I can make. She's not at all angry. Just gently submissive and accepting. I felt so bad I looked for her two nights afterwards but to no avail!

But at least now I feel I know the routine - just need to tweak it. Next night I check out the 'available' girls. i.e. the ones with obviously sod-all to do except stand there (and move on if a police van passes). Careful to avoid girls who have just finished working at the night market and are just relaxing. I try negotiating with a few, just for practice.

The conversation often starts with, "Massage?"
"How much?"
"400"
"Just for [i]massage?"[/i]

At this point they'd usually get sheepish or look away and giggle. More than once, I had a girl quickly point to my c*ck. After that, I'd start haggling. They would start at anything from 400-600HKD but soon go down to 300. Mobile phones are an excellent way of discretely indicating numbers!

I choose my girl and she takes me to a nearby flat. I can't quite decide whether she lives there or (more probably) just uses it for business. As we go in from the hallway, another punter is leaving a girl's room opposite - I catch a glimpse of her naked and think he has probably done well!

The sex was quite satisfactory. The atmosphere was very relaxed and she was quite sweet and obliging. I felt doubly bad at suspecting the girl from the other night of throwing a fast one. Value-wise, maybe not quite up to the professionalism of 37D. And all the flats I saw had a grungy feel. But then there is the pleasure of the hunt, which you don't get with just walking in to a 'yellow light'.

[b]Summary.[/b] Haggle down to HKD300. Best times seem to be between midnight and 2am. Remember than soliciting is illegal so discretion is paramount. The area all around the Night Market (as it's closing) is fair game. I found the girls up towards the Nathan Rd (and even on that part of the Nathan Rd) more cautious. The ones further downtowards Shanghai Street, or even as far as Canton Rd, were more open and took more risks (ie negotiating openly).

[i]Footnote[/i]: If you're in Hong Kong at the moment, check out a movie called Ocean Flame (English subtitled). There is a superb scene - the best one in the movie - where a guy who specialises in prostitution and blackmail interrupts a client on the job as part of a scam. (Always good to know the dark side! <g>)

If you are not on expenses and want somewhere near 37D, can I recommend Acesite Hotel. It's of a good serviceable standard - better than another one I stayed in nearby that was more expensive. I paid 400HKD a night (which is cheaper than their quoted USD internet rate on their webpage) so don't be afraid to ask for a deal. I found them very helpful, trustworthy, and reception spoke a bit of English (they also offered a taxi to the airport at less than the standard rate, but I oopted for the airport bus which is only a short walk away).

Acesite is on Soy Street, very near to 37D, and conveniently located to late night shopping (till 2am), buses to town, restaurants and a couple of cinemas. A choice of 2 subways are just a few mins walk. I'd roll downstairs and get my breakfast (a healthy sized portion of honeyroast pork on rice with unlimited tea) at a local-style cafe in the nearby street for HKD18.

Acesite, 106 Soy St, [url]http://www.hk-hotel.com/hotel/acesite/index.html[/url]


[i]If like me you prefer to just turn up and check the rooms before paying money, there's a safety net of the large Stanford Hotel almost next door (they look more expensive but are quoting good rates on the 'Net).[/i]

[QUOTE=Christopherd]...Remember than soliciting is illegal so discretion is paramount...[/QUOTE]You need to let the girl have an active part of the approach. Sometimes, when complaints get to heavy they have plain clothed policewomen walking around waiting for men to approach them.
So at least wait for a reaction to an eye contact you make. The policewomen are not allowed to get into the game and won't play any role, just walk around and are not even allowed to stand somewhere for longer time. Neither are they dressed up to anything further than an average women would be. They can only catch the most obvious of the approachers.

I'll be in Hong Kong on October 5, 6, and leaving on the 7th.

As I hear, there is a Chung Yeung Festival on the 7th. All employees have a day off. So will 37 Dundas, K Pressure, 141 TST girls, etc. all have a day (evening) off?? How long is this festival? Should I prolong my business trip so that I leave on the 8th or the 9th?

I 'm quite worried that my trip will run into the holiday and ruin my fun.

help?

[QUOTE=BruceTea]I'll be in Hong Kong on October 5, 6, and leaving on the 7th.

As I hear, there is a Chung Yeung Festival on the 7th. All employees have a day off. So will 37 Dundas, K Pressure, 141 TST girls, etc. all have a day (evening) off?? How long is this festival? Should I prolong my business trip so that I leave on the 8th or the 9th?

I 'm quite worried that my trip will run into the holiday and ruin my fun.

help?[/QUOTE]I'm brand new to the board but live in HK. There maybe fewer girls working on the 7th, but you should still be able to find plenty of action, particularly in the busier monger havens like Mongkok or Causeway Bay. Check 141 and the various web sites, as they should indicate who is on holiday.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=BruceTea]I'll be in Hong Kong on October 5, 6, and leaving on the 7th.

As I hear, there is a Chung Yeung Festival on the 7th. All employees have a day off. So will 37 Dundas, K Pressure, 141 TST girls, etc. all have a day (evening) off?? How long is this festival? Should I prolong my business trip so that I leave on the 8th or the 9th?

I 'm quite worried that my trip will run into the holiday and ruin my fun.

help?[/QUOTE]Just about all places have girls working on all holidays. The pickings may be slim for more major or longer holidays such as Chinese New Year of Christmas but girls will be available. And Chung Yeung isn't even that major of a holiday. Not to worry.

Hey,

Can anyone sugest a decent hotel to stay 1 night at?

Something on nathan road I think would be good, or close to action.

Any advice would be greatly apreciated, rtff but couldn't find much.

[QUOTE=Rockabilly77]Hey,

Can anyone sugest a decent hotel to stay 1 night at?

Something on nathan road I think would be good, or close to action.

Any advice would be greatly apreciated, rtff but couldn't find much.[/QUOTE]


Try the Nathan Hotel in Nathan Road. Google the hotel for full details. Within walking distance of Mon Kok and just across the road from the Temple Street Market where there are plenty WG's walking about. I've stayed there regularly - nice hotel - just been done up - reasonable rates.

Does anybody on this forum know if the Metropark Hotel on Hennessy Road Wanchai is Girl Friendly?

I heard it's near all the action in Wanchai.

Feedback would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Boratsexytime]Does anybody on this forum know if the Metropark Hotel on Hennessy Road Wanchai is Girl Friendly?

I heard it's near all the action in Wanchai.

Feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is. Find my post in HK forum for more information.

[QUOTE=Boratsexytime]Does anybody on this forum know if the Metropark Hotel on Hennessy Road Wanchai is Girl Friendly?

I heard it's near all the action in Wanchai.--cut--[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the board. Many newcomers are probably not aware of the search function on the upper right hand side of this page, just under the page numbers. Just punch in "Metropark" or whatever you are looking for, and it most likely has been discussed dozens of times. Yes, it is GF, but it is a short-medium walk up and down a small hill. Probably just cab it. There are many closer hotels to the Wanchai bars. Have fun

[QUOTE=Boratsexytime]Does anybody on this forum know if the Metropark Hotel on Hennessy Road Wanchai is Girl Friendly?

I heard it's near all the action in Wanchai.

Feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

EVERY HK hotel is girl-friendly. Even in the high-end ones, you'll find girls around who are looking to hook up for cash. But in the high-end ones they are a lot more subtle about it.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]EVERY HK hotel is girl-friendly. Even in the high-end ones, you'll find girls around who are looking to hook up for cash. But in the high-end ones they are a lot more subtle about it.[/QUOTE]

*EXCEPT*, as I found out, Bishop Lei International on Robinson Road, which is owned and operated by the Catholic Diocese of HK. They're not girl-friendly. Not at all. Not even slightly.

[QUOTE=Manfest] Yes, it is GF, but it is a short-medium walk up and down a small hill. Probably just cab it. There are many closer hotels to the Wanchai bars. Have fun[/QUOTE]

errrrr......except that your information is not correct as far as the location is concerned. Note that Borat is asking about Metropark WANCHAI.

You're writing about the Metropark CAUSEWAY BAY and not Metropark Wanchai Hong Kong which is at 41-49 Hennessy Road and which is a very short block away from the main action in Wanchai and certainly not up any hill.

The Causeway bay Metropark is at 148 Tung Lo Wan road and is a good $20-25 taxi ride away from the main Wanchai area bars.(it is on a sort of slope!)

SEAJ
Ps. Just to add to the confusion - there is also a Metropark Kowloon!!

Cheers for all those members who left feedback, you've made me a very happy man, I'm not going till December but for sure will fill you in on my findings when I return.

Happy mongering everyone!

[QUOTE=Idler31]*EXCEPT*, as I found out, Bishop Lei International on Robinson Road, which is owned and operated by the Catholic Diocese of HK. They're not girl-friendly. Not at all. Not even slightly.[/QUOTE]

Yes, exception taken. I would expect as much from a Catholic-run hotel. I don't know if there are any Muslim-run hotels in Hong Kong but if so you might want to avoid those too. (Although Chungking mansions seems heavily Muslim and that's a cesspool of whoring and every other kind of illegal activity.) Other than that, every HK hotel is girl friendly.

Finally saw Heineken on King's Road as mentioned in the past few pages. Decent lay, she did the ice-fire BBBJ but with cold Heineken instead of ice. Her porn star moaning and screaming was a little ridiculous as it was obviously so fake, and she was hurrying me--not in a complaining way but in a "come on baby, come for me" kind of way.

Good enough to do the trick but I wouldn't repeat.

I happened to see a girl in the apartment across the hall, #13 I believe, and she looked pretty good. Sex 141 only lists 8 girls in that Coronet Court but there are nearly 20, all on the 1st floor. Check them out, some are hot.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe] ...
Ps. Just to add to the confusion - there is also a Metropark Kowloon!![/QUOTE]

And lets not forget Metropark Shenzhen :)

Was in the mood for something older, so decided to try Pui Pui on 161 in Sham Shui Po. She is probably 48-50yo from Beijing, but was a pretty good performer. Must have had lots of practice when she was younger.

Lots of wet bbbj, ball licking & sucking and would have cim, but her mouth got tired after about 10 minutes. She is NOT a young, pretty spinner. Performance was better than a lot of the younger 141 and 161 girls. She is large and old, but it was still kind of fun having this big old lady bouncing CG on top of me. Came a bunch in CG, showered, paid $230hkd and was gone.

Do NOT see her unless you are looking for a really old chick! She was tight as hell, probably because she hasn't been fucked a lot lately, but still fun.

Name: Pui Pui
Looks: 4
Performance: 7.5
Value: 9
Cost $230 hkd for 45 minutes
Address: Flat C, 3/F, 258 Ki Lung Street, Sham Shui Po. 2 blocks from MTR station in a cruddy, old building.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Ps. Just to add to the confusion - there is also a Metropark Kowloon!![/QUOTE]The Metropark Kowloon is the hotel formerly known as the Metropole. This is the hotel where the SARS outbreak started in 2003.

[QUOTE=MegaPoint]The Metropark Kowloon is the hotel formerly known as the Metropole. This is the hotel where the SARS outbreak started in 2003.[/QUOTE]That made me shudder MP. I was then living at New World area and I got an order to leave everything and report back to US or I would loose my insurance. After I got back to the US, for a month or so some people at work would not come close to me and I know at least 2 who went to HR and asked if I was safe!

APAC Man

It seems like girls at YS places (like 37 Dundas and K pressure) are much more likely to provide BBBJ / CIM. How about 141 girls? How would you go about asking for it? Also, are the YS places open through the night?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]EVERY HK hotel is girl-friendly. Even in the high-end ones, you'll find girls around who are looking to hook up for cash. But in the high-end ones they are a lot more subtle about it.[/QUOTE]While I agree that HK hotels are girl friendly, more than once staying at the Sheraton I got "the look" from security when entering the lower lobby with a girl. I've also gotten called to come downstairs to meet a 141 girl as she was not allowed on the elevator.

Hey guys,

Quick question. Which are the best bars/clubs in HK, where you can sit with a girl, and get a HJ or BJ in a private area of the bar/club? I know alot of you will say this is a rip-off, and you can get much more for less money, it's just something I want to experience whilst I'm on holiday over there. So money really isn't a big factor. Any help would be great.

[QUOTE=Mmggg]Hey guys,

Quick question. Which are the best bars/clubs in HK, where you can sit with a girl, and get a HJ or BJ in a private area of the bar/club? I know alot of you will say this is a rip-off, and you can get much more for less money, it's just something I want to experience whilst I'm on holiday over there. So money really isn't a big factor. Any help would be great.[/QUOTE]Any of the gogo bars in Wanchai, just walk down the street and a very scandaly girl or a mamasan will try to drag you in.

Not my scene but have fun.

Wizard

[QUOTE=Mmggg]Hey guys,

Quick question. Which are the best bars/clubs in HK, where you can sit with a girl, and get a HJ or BJ in a private area of the bar/club? I know alot of you will say this is a rip-off, and you can get much more for less money, it's just something I want to experience whilst I'm on holiday over there. So money really isn't a big factor. Any help would be great.[/QUOTE]

In Hong Kong, there are so many ways to bang hot chicks. Why would you go to strip bars there whenyou can do at home? It's like traveling to Hong Kong and only eating at McDonalds.

Bars/clubs in Wanchai are tourist traps and unadventurous white expats.

[QUOTE=Wizard561]Any of the gogo bars in Wanchai, just walk down the street and a very scandaly girl or a mamasan will try to drag you in.

Not my scene but have fun.

Wizard[/QUOTE]I second that, just walk down the street, they will physically pull you inside. Money not much of an object? Man, they will LOVE you!

Good luck.

Thanks for the tip Wizard561

[QUOTE=FurryFriend]In Hong Kong, there are so many ways to bang hot chicks. Why would you go to strip bars there whenyou can do at home? It's like traveling to Hong Kong and only eating at McDonalds.

Bars/clubs in Wanchai are tourist traps and unadventurous white expats.[/QUOTE]I completely understand what your saying, but like I mentioned, it's my first time overseas I want to experience something a bit different. The idea of an HJ/BJ in a bar seems very different which is why I was looking for any help finding a bar/club like it.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend]In Hong Kong, there are so many ways to bang hot chicks. Why would you go to strip bars there whenyou can do at home? It's like traveling to Hong Kong and only eating at McDonalds.

Bars/clubs in Wanchai are tourist traps and unadventurous white expats.[/QUOTE]So please share where you would go to have a girl give you a hj or a bj in a dark corner of a bar or nightclub?

Wizard

[QUOTE=Apac Man]That made me shudder MP. I was then living at New World area and I got an order to leave everything and report back to US or I would loose my insurance. After I got back to the US, for a month or so some people at work would not come close to me and I know at least 2 who went to HR and asked if I was safe!

APAC Man[/QUOTE]

Yeah, well at least you got to bail out of Hong Kong then. I was stuck here with my local teaching job, wearing a mask until I realized my HK students couldn't understand what I was saying without being able to see my lips move...

The room on the (I think) 9th floor of the old Metropole, where the Mainland doctor who infected everyone by sneezing in the elevator was staying, has "disappeared" due to renovations.

I find myself in Hong Kong for a day, so decide to visit 37 Dundas again. The first visit was good [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=788301&postcount=2201[/url]
but this time? Well, read on...

From previous reports here, it seems that some girls at 37 Dundas do anal. Not wanting to leave anything to chance, I ask the mamasan if she has any girls that will do anal. She says yes. But I have to wait a little bit, because there are not that many of them. Fair enough. After 15 minutes, she brings in "Tina", a bit chubby, from Sichuan province in China. Not wanting to wait any longer, I accept.

We go up a few floors to the hotel, scrub in the shower, quick BBBJ, rather long catbath on the bed. Some more BBBJ, and then stick it into her pussy. When it comes to the anal part, she says no. As in, flatly refuses. I tell her that mamasan told me that she does anal, and that is why I took her. She says she does not, and has never done anal before. Mamasan must have made a mistake, she says.

I asked her to call mamasan on the phone, she refuses. Says she does not remember which mamasan brought her in. This is bullshit of course, as it is the same mamasan who also fetched her to take me upstairs. I asked her 3 times for emphasis, she gives me the same bullshit answer 3 times: can't remember which mamasan.

Meanwhile the clock is ticking of course. 10 minutes have already been spent on this by with only about about 20 minutes left. I thought very hard about getting dressed and walking out. Problem is, I don't think I will get my money back. She offers to blow me to completion. It's either this, or nothing. So I said, fine go ahead. Even the CIM is half-assed, she pulls away as soon as I start shooting.

When I get back to the main floor, it complaining time! I asked the mamasan whether I made it clear enough that I wanted a girl who does anal. She says yes, she understood. So did the girl that she brought me do anal or not?!?! She says, the girl is supposed to. I tell her that the girl flatly refused. Mamasan then says that the girl says I am too big for her arse (in my dreams...). I tell her, that's not what the girl told me: she said that does not do anal, has never done anal before, and mamasan screwed up. Mamasan apologizes of course, but what do I get for that?

This goes on for about 10 minutes. Mamasan then says she needs to talk it over with the other mommies. She stays away for a good 10 minutes. Tired of waiting, I throw the door of the tiny KTV room open. Quick as a flash, one of the mommies come over and tells me that it's company rules to have these doors open. I tell her to get the other mommy back in here, and I will close the door. Sure enough, original mommy comes back quick enough. Another round of the same shit. She offers to bring me another girl, and comped me the hotel room fee of 100 HK$. As if I am in the mood. This is like getting food poisoning at a restaurant, and they apologize by giving you a 20% off coupon for your next meal there.

So now the point becomes why the girl refused to call mommy. Even the mommy thinks it's too far-fetched that the girl cannot remember which mommy brought her. Mommy tells me I could have called myself. Yeah, but the be-atches of a mommies don't introduce themselves, so how am I supposed to know who to ask for? And anyway, since when did that become the customer's responsibility?

Mamasan says I could have called, or walked out earlier, and she would have changed girls for me. I challenge her, whether after 30 minutes, she would really change girls for me FREE OF CHARGE. She skirts the issue, only says that she could have switched girls. "For FREE?" I asked again. She doesn't answer. So there is your answer, it's NO.

I asked to see the manager of the place. Mommy says they don't really have a manager there, just mommies. How about the boss then? He is not here... She says she will get one of the other mommies to come over (to calm me down).

Another mommy enters, and I asked her if she is the manager. She says: yes...sort of. Jeeezus, the lies. Anyway... different mommy, same complaining routine all over again. Same useless apologies from mommy number 2.

On the way out, I see an older mommy standing around. Maybe she has more authority. But yup, you guessed it: same shit again. Same useless, fucking apologies.

Man!!! I have to say this has really left a bad taste in my mouth. 37 Dundas is supposed to be legendary with its service. It wasn't. Complaining didn't do shit, other than get a "sorry". This is what you would expect from mainland China, the "bu hao yisi's" (sorry's). Not Hong Kong. Now I also know why they make you pay upfront. Even in China, they don't make you pay upfront. It's doubtful that I will be back in 37 Dundas after this.

Place: 37 Dundas
Time: Friday, 4 PM
Girl: from Sichuan, a bit chubby
Face: 5
Body: 5
BBBJ: 8
CIM: about 30%
Overall: 1 - plain lousy experience

[QUOTE=Wadman]...Man!!! I have to say this has really left a bad taste in my mouth... [/QUOTE]That's the Chinese system. responsibility doesn't exist in their vocabulary. Unless in very exceptional cases, no one is responsible for his mistakes. A "very sorry" has to be sufficiant..

Claiming money back is waste of time and more so energy.
I am having a bad taste in my mouth about this for the last 20 years.

[QUOTE=Wadman] When it comes to the anal part, she says no. As in, flatly refuses. I tell her that mamasan told me that she does anal, and that is why I took her. She says she does not, and has never done anal before. [/QUOTE]I've had the same experience from 141 girls who expressly had anal listed as one of their services, but when I even touched the brownie it was an instant no-go. Mongering is always a (pardon the expression) a 'crap shoot'. At least here in JP, when they advertise AF, they usually deliver (unless your're hung like Kong).

Hey Wadman,

Next time you go to 37D (and you should), ask for Kaka. She's a lovely lass from Yunnan who always *always* does anal, has a fantastic service ethic, and never fails to please. I take her nearly every time I go. She'll make you feel good about the place again.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]That's the Chinese system. responsibility doesn't exist in their vocabulary. Unless in very exceptional cases, no one is responsible for his mistakes. A "very sorry" has to be sufficiant..

Claiming money back is waste of time and more so energy.
I am having a bad taste in my mouth about this for the last 20 years.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't so much trying to get my money back. I just wanted to see if I could get something other than a "sorry". Apparently not.

The other thing is, after being very clear upfront what I wanted and still getting shafted, I just wanted to be as difficult as I could be.

[QUOTE=Idler31]Hey Wadman,

Next time you go to 37D (and you should), ask for Kaka. She's a lovely lass from Yunnan who always *always* does anal, has a fantastic service ethic, and never fails to please. I take her nearly every time I go. She'll make you feel good about the place again.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the tip, Idler. Very much appreciated. If you ever come to Shenzhen or Dongguan and need help finding the funspots, let me know.

[QUOTE=Wadman]I find myself in Hong Kong for a day, so decide to visit 37 Dundas again. The first visit was good [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=788301&postcount=2201[/url]
but this time? Well, read on...

From previous reports here, it seems that some girls at 37 Dundas do anal. Not wanting to leave anything to chance, I ask the mamasan if she has any girls that will do anal. She says yes. But I have to wait a little bit, because there are not that many of them. Fair enough. After 15 minutes, she brings in "Tina", a bit chubby, from Sichuan province in China. Not wanting to wait any longer, I accept.

We go up a few floors to the hotel, scrub in the shower, quick BBBJ, rather long catbath on the bed. Some more BBBJ, and then stick it into her pussy. When it comes to the anal part, she says no. As in, flatly refuses. I tell her that mamasan told me that she does anal, and that is why I took her. She says she does not, and has never done anal before. Mamasan must have made a mistake, she says.

I asked her to call mamasan on the phone, she refuses. Says she does not remember which mamasan brought her in. This is bullshit of course, as it is the same mamasan who also fetched her to take me upstairs. I asked her 3 times for emphasis, she gives me the same bullshit answer 3 times: can't remember which mamasan.

Meanwhile the clock is ticking of course. 10 minutes have already been spent on this by with only about about 20 minutes left. I thought very hard about getting dressed and walking out. Problem is, I don't think I will get my money back. She offers to blow me to completion. It's either this, or nothing. So I said, fine go ahead. Even the CIM is half-assed, she pulls away as soon as I start shooting.

When I get back to the main floor, it complaining time! I asked the mamasan whether I made it clear enough that I wanted a girl who does anal. She says yes, she understood. So did the girl that she brought me do anal or not?!?! She says, the girl is supposed to. I tell her that the girl flatly refused. Mamasan then says that the girl says I am too big for her arse (in my dreams...). I tell her, that's not what the girl told me: she said that does not do anal, has never done anal before, and mamasan screwed up. Mamasan apologizes of course, but what do I get for that?

This goes on for about 10 minutes. Mamasan then says she needs to talk it over with the other mommies. She stays away for a good 10 minutes. Tired of waiting, I throw the door of the tiny KTV room open. Quick as a flash, one of the mommies come over and tells me that it's company rules to have these doors open. I tell her to get the other mommy back in here, and I will close the door. Sure enough, original mommy comes back quick enough. Another round of the same shit. She offers to bring me another girl, and comped me the hotel room fee of 100 HK$. As if I am in the mood. This is like getting food poisoning at a restaurant, and they apologize by giving you a 20% off coupon for your next meal there.

So now the point becomes why the girl refused to call mommy. Even the mommy thinks it's too far-fetched that the girl cannot remember which mommy brought her. Mommy tells me I could have called myself. Yeah, but the be-atches of a mommies don't introduce themselves, so how am I supposed to know who to ask for? And anyway, since when did that become the customer's responsibility?

Mamasan says I could have called, or walked out earlier, and she would have changed girls for me. I challenge her, whether after 30 minutes, she would really change girls for me FREE OF CHARGE. She skirts the issue, only says that she could have switched girls. "For FREE?" I asked again. She doesn't answer. So there is your answer, it's NO.

I asked to see the manager of the place. Mommy says they don't really have a manager there, just mommies. How about the boss then? He is not here... She says she will get one of the other mommies to come over (to calm me down).

Another mommy enters, and I asked her if she is the manager. She says: yes...sort of. Jeeezus, the lies. Anyway... different mommy, same complaining routine all over again. Same useless apologies from mommy number 2.

On the way out, I see an older mommy standing around. Maybe she has more authority. But yup, you guessed it: same shit again. Same useless, fucking apologies.

Man!!! I have to say this has really left a bad taste in my mouth. 37 Dundas is supposed to be legendary with its service. It wasn't. Complaining didn't do shit, other than get a "sorry". This is what you would expect from mainland China, the "bu hao yisi's" (sorry's). Not Hong Kong. Now I also know why they make you pay upfront. Even in China, they don't make you pay upfront. It's doubtful that I will be back in 37 Dundas after this.

Place: 37 Dundas
Time: Friday, 4 PM
Girl: from Sichuan, a bit chubby
Face: 5
Body: 5
BBBJ: 8
CIM: about 30%
Overall: 1 - plain lousy experience[/QUOTE]


In the past, at 37D, I have asked the mamasan which girl did anal, they have told me it is up to the girl....gee thanks, that's no help.....how do I choose. Some of the smarter mamasan's know they cannot guarantee such a service so they say it is up to the girl.

I recall one time, I did NOT ask for anal.......and to my surprise the girl let me slip it in. I guess sometimes you get lucky. But for whatever reason, no one can make the girl do anal unless she wants to regardless of what the mama promised. Let's face it, banging girls in their ass gives them pain and in some cases bleeding when the customer are rough with them.

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT defending the actions of 37D or the situation you were put through, I am just stating a few facts to consider.

Once, when I was in Bangkok at a massage place, the mamasan promised the girl would do anal and of course the girl did not want to. I told the girl the mamasan promised and the girl still refused. As Thai girls are very funny, she said, "ok you fuck me in my ass if I can fuck you in your ass with a broom stick." We both laughed and I did not make the request anymore.

My best advice is to ask the girl(s), while they are standing in front of you, which one does anal-while the mama is standing there. That's the only almost sure way of getting what you ask for. I did that once, and they all laughed and had funny looks on their face,...then one said she would do it but only for a few minutes. I picked her and we both kept our promises.

Also, some 141 girls will do anal. On the website it maybe listed as "combo" on sites such as sex161 or as "special service" on sex 141. I like the website miss148 because it states "ass fuck" for which girl will do anal. Hey, that's to the point!

When I go to a 141 especially for anal, I make sure the girl will do it. For guys who don't speak Chinese, simply point to their ass and make the sign of your finger going into a whole. They will either shake their head yes or no. If yes, have them write down the price of the service. If you want BJ and also fuck, show the hand signs for that and have them quote the full price.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend]In Hong Kong, there are so many ways to bang hot chicks. Why would you go to strip bars there whenyou can do at home? It's like traveling to Hong Kong and only eating at McDonalds.

Bars/clubs in Wanchai are tourist traps and unadventurous white expats.[/QUOTE]


I AGREE 100% with your comments!! (Now, I am sure we will get a ton of responses tell us how wonderful Wanchai is). ; - }

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]In the past, at 37D, I have asked the mamasan which girl did anal, they have told me it is up to the girl....gee thanks, that's no help.....how do I choose. Some of the smarter mamasan's know they cannot guarantee such a service so they say it is up to the girl.

I recall one time, I did NOT ask for anal.......and to my surprise the girl let me slip it in. I guess sometimes you get lucky. But for whatever reason, no one can make the girl do anal unless she wants to regardless of what the mama promised. Let's face it, banging girls in their ass gives them pain and in some cases bleeding when the customer are rough with them.

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT defending the actions of 37D or the situation you were put through, I am just stating a few facts to consider.
[/QUOTE]

Happiness, it seems, is the difference between what you EXPECT to get and what you ACTUALLY get. If this difference is small, people are happy.

See, the funny thing is, if mamasan had told me that "it's up to the girl" and she cannot guarantee anything, I would have been at peace with it. Or if it was a 141/161 or something similar, where quality control is minimal, I would be OK with it too. Somehow I expected better from 37 D.

But after telling mamasan what I wanted in no uncertain terms, and her promising the girl would do so, I was one unhappy camper. And then there was the way my complaints were handled...

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]
My best advice is to ask the girl(s), while they are standing in front of you, which one does anal-while the mama is standing there. That's the only almost sure way of getting what you ask for.
[/QUOTE]

I will do so next time. And get them to inspect my dick size. That will eliminate the excuse of "you are too big".

[QUOTE=Wadman]Happiness, it seems, is the difference between what you EXPECT to get and what you ACTUALLY get. If this difference is small, people are happy.

See, the funny thing is, if mamasan had told me that "it's up to the girl" and she cannot guarantee anything, I would have been at peace with it. Or if it was a 141/161 or something similar, where quality control is minimal, I would be OK with it too. Somehow I expected better from 37 D.

But after telling mamasan what I wanted in no uncertain terms, and her promising the girl would do so, I was one unhappy camper. And then there was the way my complaints were handled...



I will do so next time. And get them to inspect my dick size. That will eliminate the excuse of "you are too big".[/QUOTE]


I understand where you are coming from. In my opinion, in this situation, the mama should have made sure the girl was going to provide the service. Hopefully, the mama has learned from this experience.

Ordered girl on hongkongescort.com, as I like to know my lady, I chose from here [url]http://www.hongkongescort.com/rate.html[/url] "1 DAY"

They told via phone HKD 7K, although they state 5800 on their www, I agreed, just told if I do not like the girl I will send her back (as it was "blind" order). I even made sure - they were telling "she will leave tomorrow 7AM" so I told "Yeah but tomorrow TOMORROW, right ? "YES" they answered. Again I say "MONDAY, right ? " "YES". "OK".

Anyway - pretty girl came around 3AM Sunday, liked her, kept her. Have had really great sex (4AM to 5AM ) and went to sleep. To my surprise 8AM she was like "OK I am going". I told het "No dear, you got it wrong, you go tomorrow". So she called agency again, they confirmed, then she left. Agency called me told me same BS.

I mean the girl was great, really great sex, but if I knew this I would pay i.e. "HK$2,000 for three hours". I feel abused now :)

On 37 D:

The first floor seems to bring 3-4 girls together to choose from. On the second floor, the girls were presented to me one after the other, and they sat down a minute with me alone. May be an advantage, because you can sort out easier if you get along with the gal. The prettier girls are on the 1st floor, of course.

Last time I went was on a Sunday at around 1 pm, so I expected few girls. The 1 st floor actually only had one girl that wasn't occupied, and she wasn't my type at all. After sending her away at first, I found out that I had to wait some 15 minutes for another one to be free... so I reconsidered. Got what I hadn't expected but hoped for: An amazing performance from a non-stunner. Included rimming, CIM, and a (rejected) offer of anal. Her name was Ni-Ni, I think.

Centaurus

[QUOTE=Denny1234]Ordered girl on hongkongescort.com, as I like to know my lady, I chose from here [url]http://www.hongkongescort.com/rate.html[/url] "1 DAY"

They told via phone HKD 7K, although they state 5800 on their www, I agreed, just told if I do not like the girl I will send her back (as it was "blind" order). I even made sure - they were telling "she will leave tomorrow 7AM" so I told "Yeah but tomorrow TOMORROW, right ? "YES" they answered. Again I say "MONDAY, right ? " "YES". "OK".

Anyway - pretty girl came around 3AM Sunday, liked her, kept her. Have had really great sex (4AM to 5AM ) and went to sleep. To my surprise 8AM she was like "OK I am going". I told het "No dear, you got it wrong, you go tomorrow". So she called agency again, they confirmed, then she left. Agency called me told me same BS.

I mean the girl was great, really great sex, but if I knew this I would pay i.e. "HK$2,000 for three hours". I feel abused now :)[/QUOTE]

How many times would you have sex with her even if you had kept her for 24 hours? Let's say you would have had sex four times in a 24 hour period. Still, at $7k a day, that would be $1750 a pop.

WHY ARE YOU PAYING ALMOST $2000 PER SESSION IN HONG KONG?

If you found this website, you should have read on the zillions of ways you can get laid for a lot less. For $7k, you could have had almost 20 encounters at a 141 or brothel.

I hate to say this, but you deserve getting shafted.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend]How many times would you have sex with her even if you had kept her for 24 hours? Let's say you would have had sex four times in a 24 hour period. Still, at $7k a day, that would be $1750 a pop.

WHY ARE YOU PAYING ALMOST $2000 PER SESSION IN HONG KONG?

If you found this website, you should have read on the zillions of ways you can get laid for a lot less. For $7k, you could have had almost 20 encounters at a 141 or brothel.

I hate to say this, but you deserve getting shafted.[/QUOTE]I simply prefer model-types, smart girls. I do not think in your way "how much I paid for a pop" - I also enjoy go for a walk, have dinner, talk, cuddle, things like that.

Me awith friends in last years pick girls from Highway club 3K for a night but that night I did not like any. Then I went to Fenwick - that's damn dirty place, there was female/male ratio 1:3, crowded, mess, girls did not look good. Then I went to Neptune II, looked better, more girls there, but did not like any either.

I really do not care the money I just looked forward to spend a day with her, probably would buy her some nice gift, too. I will check Highway an Neptune II today again and if I pick there nothing I will call this agency and ask for same girl, but this time only for 3 hours, because I learned from my "misunderstanding". And that's why I posted it - so if anyone search for "hongkongescort.com" he will know to book only fo 3 hours, not fall for the "one day" thing.

To you Hong Kong "professionals". After doing a lot of reading, it appears that Sunday afternoon is the big day for meeting the "part-timers" or freelancers. I am wondering what happens as the day comes to an end? Is Sunday evening pretty much dead in Wan Chai, or does the party move somewhere else?
Also in the pursuit of the "milf' aged western girls. I am wondering if they tend to gravitate to a certain areas (like LWF) and go out in groups on say Friday or Saturday nights?
I know that these are big time general questions, but it may help in the "pursuit of happiness". Either mine or theirs, or with a little luck, both.
Is there a bar scene in Kowloon similar to that in Wanchai?

Thanks for sharing!
Sky

So, you've seen them around, walking in TST, Wan Chai, and Causeway Bay on the weekends, sometimes it seems like half of HK is Filipina and Indonesian. Every Sunday and public holiday, there they are, taking up space on the sidewalks, in McDonalds, KFC, anywhere there's an empty spot.

Only problem is, some of them are HOT. Makes you stop and take a second look, maybe even a third. And I'll tell you now, if they're not wearing one of those Indonesian half-burkas, they're probably looking back at you. The great part is, most of these girls can be had with minimal (although not zero) investment of time and money, and will generally perform quite well.

So what do you do about it? Well, I'm here to part with some of my recently obtained wisdom. Hopefully it can help some of my fellow hunters.

CAVEAT: I'm a young-ish gwei-lo (whitey). I can't tell you how well my places work for non-Caucasians, but I'd imagine if you're nice and speak decent English, you have a shot. I've seen firsthand that it DOES work for gwei-los of any age/physique. And I'm not talking about the 35-40 yr old mamas who you can meet on the webcam sites, these are early-to-mid 20s girls in their prime.

CAVEAT #2: This is only a report of where I've been and my personal methods. As with all reports, YMMV and if you've anything to add, please do!

Part I: The Places
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Wan Chai
Obviously, this is the place to go for your standard pick-up. Yes, there are a number of freelancers about on Sundays, but most of the women in New Makati, Laguna, and Neptune II are just domestic helpers who like to dance. Most of them are open to dancing with anyone as long as you don't jump up and try to grope and grind at first glance. I would avoid Fenwicks/Joe Bananas, unless you want the P4P on Sunday. The crowds usually start getting in around 3 or 4, but it varies on the day and the weather. Guaranteed, show up at 6 and they will be packed.

Pros: Lots of women in dance outfits, drinking and having a good time. Since they're not professionals, drinks for them are normal price. Also, if you're looking for a one-night stand, this is probably the best place to go. Easiest place to find a girl.

Cons: Most of these girls have been approached probably 5 times that day before you saw them, so they know the tricks; might be a bit tougher to seal the deal. Also, as with club girls anywhere, they will be more apt to gold-dig and play tricks. Finally, you might lose all of your work for a free lay when they turn out to be a P4P girl.

How to get there (for the newbies): At Wan Chai MTR, take the Lockhart Rd exit and look left when you get to the street; you can't miss the huge sign for New Makati. Laguna is a block farther down on the right corner, and Neptune is one street over, on Jaffe Rd, also with a big sign. Despite what the signs say, if you don't have a crew cut (US Navy), you don't have to pay a cover, ever. Tipping the bartender helps at New Makati; not so much at the other 2 places.

Causeway Bay - Victoria Park
Where the normal girls come out to play. A nice park with good facilities and lots of girls. I've seen this place mentioned on the forum as a good place to find the normal girls, but personally, it's not a favorite. I also noticed many more Indonesians than Filipinas, which is also evidenced by the number of Indonesian restaurants and markets around Causeway Bay.

Pros: LOTS of girls. The park is literally stuffed with them. Also a good number of locals here too (they have a model boat pool, which is a first for me), however I only saw a small number of gwei-los. You get a LOT of stares.

Cons: It's a very open park, not too many private places for conversation; you might feel as you're sticking out like a sore thumb, like I was, for the same reason as in the Pros section. Biggest con: a LOT of religious girls like to hang out here. Actually saw a few on the prayer rugs when I was there, and much more in the half-burka. Not exactly a good sign for the guy hoping to pick up.

How to get there: Causeway Bay MTR, follow the signs; hard to miss.

Central/Tsim Sha Tsui - The Public Areas
Filipina headquarters. So much so that there are special ads in Tagalog put up for the day, salespeople handing out Tagalog flyers, and official signs for "Do not Litter" in English, Chinese, and you guessed it, Tagalog. Walk anywhere on the skywalks between Central MTR/Hong Kong MTR/Star Ferry in Central and any of the public places near the Star Ferry in TST (Space Museum, Cultural Museum, Museum of Art, Olympic Rings) and you'll see them everywhere.

Pros: As an AC veteran, I love the Filipina woman. It brings me back, and I like using my pidgin Tagalog when I can, they always get a kick out of it. Their English is usually better than their Indonesian counterparts. Again, lots of girls to choose from.

Cons: Pretty much the same as Victoria Park, except here, the hard part isn't the religious ones as much as the older/less attractive ones who will do their damndest to repel you and/or take you for themselves. Be careful.

How to get there: Take the Star Ferry from Central or Wan Chai. At the TST pier, take a right from the exit and walk. Can't miss 'em.

TST - Kowloon Park
I would say this is the best place other than Wan Chai to try your skills for a number of reasons. A huge park, but with a lot of attractions, such as fountains and a full-on aviary, complete with cockatoos (loved getting one of my girls to say that).

Pros: Lots of girls, both Indonesian and Filipina. Seemed to be smaller groups than CWB or Central, more friends than clans/hometown groups. Also lots of people here from many different places (when I went I noticed lots of Nepalese/Pakistani/Indian/African, most likely due to the mosque that's also in the park, but positively, didn't see that many headscarves on the girls). Seemed to be easier to "fit in" the crowd there. A lot more secluded/semi-private areas, especially around the aviary, which might give guys some extra confidence to start walking up to the girls.

Cons: One of the girls I was with said she was scared to walk alone in Kowloon Park, though she wouldn't say why (although I think she was nervous around non-Chinese Asians/Africans, from the environment during the conversation). Some of the girls bring their owners' children to the park too, so I would stay away from those groups.

How to get there: TST MTR station and follow the signs, or from TST Star Ferry, take Canton Road all the way until it's in front of you, about a 5-10 min. walk.

Part II: The Method
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First rule: Be friendly and "gentlemanly." They all know what you're after, but at the same time, they've got their own dreams that you can fulfill. If you come up to a girl and ask her for her number/invite her to your place right away, it won't work (unless she's P4P, and you've saved yourself the effort!). For foreigners, in this scene, the "nice guy" seems to do better than the "rebel," as long as you can sweeten them with talk.

Second rule: Give it some time. You're rarely going to get a girl to go with you the first night (unless you get them wasted in Wan Chai, and then your chances will increase if you can get the friends away). After you chat them up for a while, maybe buy a few drinks or whatever, you can trade numbers. Text them a couple of times during the week, and they'll most likely see you again, alone, next Sunday. They just need that feeling during the first time that you're not out for the lay alone (even if you are).

Third rule: Don't become Uncle Pennybags, but don't be a miser, either. DO NOT give them cash if they ask for it. These girls are scammers, and not worth your time (even though you may have expended a lot of it getting to that point). However, treat them well, and they'll treat you well. I generally take them to a decent restaurant with food from their home country (I recommend Cinta-J in Wan Chai or Padang in CWB) on the first meetup. After that, it's smooth sailing.

Protip #1: In the parks, bring a camera/cameraphone. It's a great conversation starter. Find some girls near an "interesting" photo, and ask them to take your photo in front of it. Then, ask to take their picture. If they seem interested, your conversation is started for you.

Protip #2: Get a prepaid SIM card available at any little mobile shop (I use one from Peoples, which you can get at any 7-11) if you want to keep it separate from prying eyes and/or you're worried about them harassing you after you've left them.

Protip #3: Part on good terms and/or treat the friends better. The bamboo telegraph works just as good here as in the PI or Indonesia. Don't want to thin the pool out for the future.

Protip #4: Work on their schedule. Most of these girls need to be back at their owners' place either Sunday night or early Monday morning; FIND OUT, and then give yourself time for the most important activity of the day.

and finally, Protip #5: Keep 'em around for a while. These kinds of girls tend to get better on repeat experiences. The girl I recently picked up was very shy on the first time, and much better the second.

Conclusion
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These girls are great for people who live in HK or visit frequently. They can only see you on Sundays, so they can't invade your personal life like a girlfriend could, they almost never ask for money/gifts, and they're usually very accommodating in bed. However, they take some work, and are definitely no substitute for a good P4P experience at 37 Dundas or a good sauna in Macau.

I've included a picture of one of my girls (22, Indonesian) for "reference." I hope this report has been helpful to someone on this board, and I look forward to seeing others' reports on hunting the lovely domestic helpers of Hong Kong.

Cheers,
Crazy Ami

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]To you Hong Kong "professionals". After doing a lot of reading, it appears that Sunday afternoon is the big day for meeting the "part-timers" or freelancers. I am wondering what happens as the day comes to an end? Is Sunday evening pretty much dead in Wan Chai, or does the party move somewhere else?
Also in the pursuit of the "milf' aged western girls. I am wondering if they tend to gravitate to a certain areas (like LWF) and go out in groups on say Friday or Saturday nights?
I know that these are big time general questions, but it may help in the "pursuit of happiness". Either mine or theirs, or with a little luck, both.
Is there a bar scene in Kowloon similar to that in Wanchai?

Thanks for sharing!
Sky[/QUOTE]

Sky,

For the western hunting, I would recommend picking up a copy of HK Magazine (most bars have them) and looking at the listings for Ladies' Nights, most being on Wednesdays/Thursdays. That would be your best bet for picking up the classic cougar, especially the Ladies' Nights in Wan Chai (Mes a Mis and Heat are good examples).

For the freelancers, take a glance at my post below. All of the mentioned bars will be full of maids all day, but starting around 9-10 pm, it will shift to the more professional girls, as the maids have to get back home for work the next day.

Happy hunting!

~Crazy Ami

Thanks for your excellent report on the maid scene.

I am usually in HK for just one weekend; so I need to succeed in on the same day.

Back 2004, I succeeded twice in a row, on a Saturday and then on a Monday at Laguna (wiht Indonesian maids). Then success again in 2005. But since then my luck has run out: sometimes I dance and make-out with a girl, only to get "next week" when I pop the question; sometimes, as you say, the girl turns out to be P4P and a maid simultaneously. I think it has become tougher for two reasons: more people know about it, so as you say, the girls are getting lots of propositions; I am older and less competitive.

Anyway, the bump and grind and make-out sessions you can get at the Wan Chai discos is sometimes more fun than sex.

[QUOTE=Race Track]Thanks for your excellent report on the maid scene.

I am usually in HK for just one weekend; so I need to succeed in on the same day.

Back 2004, I succeeded twice in a row, on a Saturday and then on a Monday at Laguna (wiht Indonesian maids). Then success again in 2005. But since then my luck has run out: sometimes I dance and make-out with a girl, only to get "next week" when I pop the question; sometimes, as you say, the girl turns out to be P4P and a maid simultaneously. I think it has become tougher for two reasons: more people know about it, so as you say, the girls are getting lots of propositions; I am older and less competitive.

Anyway, the bump and grind and make-out sessions you can get at the Wan Chai discos is sometimes more fun than sex.[/QUOTE]I am gonna be in HK from Tuesday till 20-oct. I found a few maids that want to meet me via website cherryblossoms, however most of these maids are looking for love and want to be taken away to a western country. However I have found a cutie that wants to spend some time with me and we spoke about shagging like rabbits on many occations (via yahoo messager) actually its all we talk about last few days. So maybe have ago see if you can meet someone online before you get there. Again will take a lot of your time chatting to them and sweetening them.

Red

Where would you recommend I got for a morning shag? I've heard 8 Mongkok was open 24 hours, but haven't seen much about the place on our forum recently. Are YS places 24 hours?

Thanks in advance.

My greatest respect, Crazy Ami, for your detailed and really helpful report. Not much to add. Just another tip: try to find out if they have a curfew and at what time. The best bet is with girls "living out" because they are more flexible in their timing and can spend the whole night with you. PI are more likely than Indos to "live out".

Cheers,

Zuzon X

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami]So, you've seen them around, walking in TST, Wan Chai, and Causeway Bay on the weekends, sometimes it seems like half of HK is Filipina and Indonesian. Every Sunday and public holiday, there they are, taking up space on the sidewalks, in McDonalds, KFC, anywhere there's an empty spot.

Only problem is, some of them are HOT. Makes you stop and take a second look, maybe even a third. And I'll tell you now, if they're not wearing one of those Indonesian half-burkas, they're probably looking back at you. The great part is, most of these girls can be had with minimal (although not zero) investment of time and money, and will generally perform quite well.

So what do you do about it? Well, I'm here to part with some of my recently obtained wisdom. Hopefully it can help some of my fellow hunters.

CAVEAT: I'm a young-ish gwei-lo (whitey). I can't tell you how well my places work for non-Caucasians, but I'd imagine if you're nice and speak decent English, you have a shot. I've seen firsthand that it DOES work for gwei-los of any age/physique. And I'm not talking about the 35-40 yr old mamas who you can meet on the webcam sites, these are early-to-mid 20s girls in their prime.

CAVEAT #2: This is only a report of where I've been and my personal methods. As with all reports, YMMV and if you've anything to add, please do!

Part I: The Places
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Wan Chai
Obviously, this is the place to go for your standard pick-up. Yes, there are a number of freelancers about on Sundays, but most of the women in New Makati, Laguna, and Neptune II are just domestic helpers who like to dance. Most of them are open to dancing with anyone as long as you don't jump up and try to grope and grind at first glance. I would avoid Fenwicks/Joe Bananas, unless you want the P4P on Sunday. The crowds usually start getting in around 3 or 4, but it varies on the day and the weather. Guaranteed, show up at 6 and they will be packed.

Pros: Lots of women in dance outfits, drinking and having a good time. Since they're not professionals, drinks for them are normal price. Also, if you're looking for a one-night stand, this is probably the best place to go. Easiest place to find a girl.

Cons: Most of these girls have been approached probably 5 times that day before you saw them, so they know the tricks; might be a bit tougher to seal the deal. Also, as with club girls anywhere, they will be more apt to gold-dig and play tricks. Finally, you might lose all of your work for a free lay when they turn out to be a P4P girl.

How to get there (for the newbies): At Wan Chai MTR, take the Lockhart Rd exit and look left when you get to the street; you can't miss the huge sign for New Makati. Laguna is a block farther down on the right corner, and Neptune is one street over, on Jaffe Rd, also with a big sign. Despite what the signs say, if you don't have a crew cut (US Navy), you don't have to pay a cover, ever. Tipping the bartender helps at New Makati; not so much at the other 2 places.

Causeway Bay - Victoria Park
Where the normal girls come out to play. A nice park with good facilities and lots of girls. I've seen this place mentioned on the forum as a good place to find the normal girls, but personally, it's not a favorite. I also noticed many more Indonesians than Filipinas, which is also evidenced by the number of Indonesian restaurants and markets around Causeway Bay.

Pros: LOTS of girls. The park is literally stuffed with them. Also a good number of locals here too (they have a model boat pool, which is a first for me), however I only saw a small number of gwei-los. You get a LOT of stares.

Cons: It's a very open park, not too many private places for conversation; you might feel as you're sticking out like a sore thumb, like I was, for the same reason as in the Pros section. Biggest con: a LOT of religious girls like to hang out here. Actually saw a few on the prayer rugs when I was there, and much more in the half-burka. Not exactly a good sign for the guy hoping to pick up.

How to get there: Causeway Bay MTR, follow the signs; hard to miss.

Central/Tsim Sha Tsui - The Public Areas
Filipina headquarters. So much so that there are special ads in Tagalog put up for the day, salespeople handing out Tagalog flyers, and official signs for "Do not Litter" in English, Chinese, and you guessed it, Tagalog. Walk anywhere on the skywalks between Central MTR/Hong Kong MTR/Star Ferry in Central and any of the public places near the Star Ferry in TST (Space Museum, Cultural Museum, Museum of Art, Olympic Rings) and you'll see them everywhere.

Pros: As an AC veteran, I love the Filipina woman. It brings me back, and I like using my pidgin Tagalog when I can, they always get a kick out of it. Their English is usually better than their Indonesian counterparts. Again, lots of girls to choose from.

Cons: Pretty much the same as Victoria Park, except here, the hard part isn't the religious ones as much as the older/less attractive ones who will do their damndest to repel you and/or take you for themselves. Be careful.

How to get there: Take the Star Ferry from Central or Wan Chai. At the TST pier, take a right from the exit and walk. Can't miss 'em.

TST - Kowloon Park
I would say this is the best place other than Wan Chai to try your skills for a number of reasons. A huge park, but with a lot of attractions, such as fountains and a full-on aviary, complete with cockatoos (loved getting one of my girls to say that).

Pros: Lots of girls, both Indonesian and Filipina. Seemed to be smaller groups than CWB or Central, more friends than clans/hometown groups. Also lots of people here from many different places (when I went I noticed lots of Nepalese/Pakistani/Indian/African, most likely due to the mosque that's also in the park, but positively, didn't see that many headscarves on the girls). Seemed to be easier to "fit in" the crowd there. A lot more secluded/semi-private areas, especially around the aviary, which might give guys some extra confidence to start walking up to the girls.

Cons: One of the girls I was with said she was scared to walk alone in Kowloon Park, though she wouldn't say why (although I think she was nervous around non-Chinese Asians/Africans, from the environment during the conversation). Some of the girls bring their owners' children to the park too, so I would stay away from those groups.

How to get there: TST MTR station and follow the signs, or from TST Star Ferry, take Canton Road all the way until it's in front of you, about a 5-10 min. walk.

Part II: The Method
-------------------
First rule: Be friendly and "gentlemanly." They all know what you're after, but at the same time, they've got their own dreams that you can fulfill. If you come up to a girl and ask her for her number/invite her to your place right away, it won't work (unless she's P4P, and you've saved yourself the effort!). For foreigners, in this scene, the "nice guy" seems to do better than the "rebel," as long as you can sweeten them with talk.

Second rule: Give it some time. You're rarely going to get a girl to go with you the first night (unless you get them wasted in Wan Chai, and then your chances will increase if you can get the friends away). After you chat them up for a while, maybe buy a few drinks or whatever, you can trade numbers. Text them a couple of times during the week, and they'll most likely see you again, alone, next Sunday. They just need that feeling during the first time that you're not out for the lay alone (even if you are).

Third rule: Don't become Uncle Pennybags, but don't be a miser, either. DO NOT give them cash if they ask for it. These girls are scammers, and not worth your time (even though you may have expended a lot of it getting to that point). However, treat them well, and they'll treat you well. I generally take them to a decent restaurant with food from their home country (I recommend Cinta-J in Wan Chai or Padang in CWB) on the first meetup. After that, it's smooth sailing.

Protip #1: In the parks, bring a camera/cameraphone. It's a great conversation starter. Find some girls near an "interesting" photo, and ask them to take your photo in front of it. Then, ask to take their picture. If they seem interested, your conversation is started for you.

Protip #2: Get a prepaid SIM card available at any little mobile shop (I use one from Peoples, which you can get at any 7-11) if you want to keep it separate from prying eyes and/or you're worried about them harassing you after you've left them.

Protip #3: Part on good terms and/or treat the friends better. The bamboo telegraph works just as good here as in the PI or Indonesia. Don't want to thin the pool out for the future.

Protip #4: Work on their schedule. Most of these girls need to be back at their owners' place either Sunday night or early Monday morning; FIND OUT, and then give yourself time for the most important activity of the day.

and finally, Protip #5: Keep 'em around for a while. These kinds of girls tend to get better on repeat experiences. The girl I recently picked up was very shy on the first time, and much better the second.

Conclusion
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These girls are great for people who live in HK or visit frequently. They can only see you on Sundays, so they can't invade your personal life like a girlfriend could, they almost never ask for money/gifts, and they're usually very accommodating in bed. However, they take some work, and are definitely no substitute for a good P4P experience at 37 Dundas or a good sauna in Macau.

I've included a picture of one of my girls (22, Indonesian) for "reference." I hope this report has been helpful to someone on this board, and I look forward to seeing others' reports on hunting the lovely domestic helpers of Hong Kong.

Cheers,
Crazy Ami[/QUOTE]

Crazy Ami, thanks for your helpful post.

I'm in Hong Kong 2-3 times a year and have always wanted to find Filipino girls to date or for short-term companionship, not for sex. Sex is easy in Hong Kong. But sometimes, I just want someone fun to hang out with who speaks my language.

Where do you think these girls hang out ALONE? I don't wanna approach some girl in sitting in some large Filipino group on Statue Square. There must be a place where they hang out by themselves.

Thanks, everyone, for your feedback. Some replies:

Race Track: I agree, sometimes the bump and grind is just as fun as picking up, especially if you're drunk and don't want the morning after shock of what you woke up next to! ;-) If you're only in HK for the weekend, I recommend Red Hawk's technique of the dating websites, although you should be careful about them too (more below).

Red Hawk: Best of luck to you! Although I haven't tried the websites for HK, I have heard tons of horror stories about the girls using them in the PI. Either they bring their friends to the meet, turn out to be P4P, they look *much* different than their pictures, or they're out for gold-digging (although with your short schedule, I hope that won't happen). Let us know how it proceeds!

Zuzon X: Thanks, and I agree, knowing the curfew is important! I tend to shy away from the live-out girls, as I want someone who won't bother me during the week! :-) I hooked up with one Indonesian live-out girl who was inviting me to go out almost every other night; she wanted to put her "stamp" on me in Laguna, to say off-limits to everyone else. Had to put a stop to that!

FurryFriend: When have you ever known Filipina girls to hang out alone?? :-) I haven't seen it much in Hong Kong. I would think though, that your best shot is to go to Wan Chai early Sunday afternoons, and walk around the bars, coffee shops, and small food places around Lockhart Road. You might find a few loners waiting for their friends to show up before they hit the clubs. Pacific Coffee (on Lockhart and Fenwick St, just above Fenwick's Club) is a good place to start.

~Crazy Ami

I have had my best early morning experiences by standing on the ground near the elevator of my hotel. What you get is last nights take away who is now heading for home. Make eye contact and smile. If she responds, go to the coffee shop, buy her some food and make your deal. My success rate is about 95%.
'bare

Gentlemen,

First let me say that this forum is a great resource to many who travel to ASIA and I have learned from every post.

I will be in Hong Kong on 10/20 and 10/21 and will be staying at the LKF Hotel, it seems to be a trendy hotel in a very HOT area. I am curious if anyone knows if this is a girl friendly hotel?

On another note I am looking for a more mature experience this time in Hong Kong, someone above the age of 35 who offers class and style.

Any of you gentlemen have a recommendation for me?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Denny1234]Ordered girl on hongkongescort.com, as I like to know my lady, I chose from here [url]http://www.hongkongescort.com/rate.html[/url] "1 DAY"

They told via phone HKD 7K, although they state 5800 on their www, I agreed, just told if I do not like the girl I will send her back (as it was "blind" order). I even made sure - they were telling "she will leave tomorrow 7AM" so I told "Yeah but tomorrow TOMORROW, right ? "YES" they answered. Again I say "MONDAY, right ? " "YES". "OK".

Anyway - pretty girl came around 3AM Sunday, liked her, kept her. Have had really great sex (4AM to 5AM ) and went to sleep. To my surprise 8AM she was like "OK I am going". I told het "No dear, you got it wrong, you go tomorrow". So she called agency again, they confirmed, then she left. Agency called me told me same BS.

I mean the girl was great, really great sex, but if I knew this I would pay i.e. "HK$2,000 for three hours". I feel abused now :)[/QUOTE]


The sex hunt is all about learning from your experiences. True, you paid too much, but in the future, because of this experience, you will be a better hunter. We have all made mistakes at one time or another in this sex game and moved on to be better hunters (most of us anyway).

As a tip, if you want a lovely girl to spend all night and even the day with you at a reasonable price or very little money, the best place to do this is Thailand. Tons of hot looking girls can be had on the cheap to stay with you all day and night. AND--they love white guys--unlike girls in Hong Kong.

Hong Kong is not the place for cheap all nighters, unless she is dirt ugly. The Hong Kong girls are about making the money and moving on (as you have learned when you gave a large sum of money and the girl still wanted to leave--she could care less about your feelings or the fairness of the situation). The Thai girls IN Thailand take more of an interest in you, generally speaking resulting in a more GFE.

Check out the Thailand post for great info. Plus, the massage outlets in Thailand are way cheaper and 100% better than Hong Kong. I like 37D, but seeing 3 or 4 girls at 37D is nothing like seeing 40+ hot looking girls behind a glass window in Bangkok. Plus you get 2 hours with them for about $50.

Don't get me wrong, I love Hong Kong--that's why I live here. But, different cities offer different sex experiences and for what you are looking for, Thailand (or even PI) would be your best bet. Hong Kong is for short time sex. For the amount you paid in HK, you could have had a lovely hot looking young Thai girl stay with you for 3 to 5 days in Thailand and be your girlfriend. I know from personal experience because I have done it.

Bottom Line: If you love Chinese girls (the way I do) and want a safe and fun place, Hong Kong is the spot. If you want HOT young girls (over 18) that will take an interest in you, are sweet, bang you good, and offer a GFE, at very low cost, Thailand is the place.

I was in Hong Kong for vacation a little under two weeks ago and got a chance to visit Apple in Tsim Sha Tsui. Champagne Court B from the ****** site (who I actually can't find on the site anymore). Originally I wasn't planning on any fun as it was an r&r vacation with family but I had some time on my hands, free internet (though it was difficult visiting "these" types of sites in open public view) at the Sheraton on Nathan Road (amazing, amazing hotel by the way.- I'd recommend it for any traveler who can afford it).

My requirements were that 1.) the girl be located in Tsim Sha Tsui as that's where I was staying and I wanted it to be within walking distance given that it was my first time to Hong Kong and 2.) she had to understand English. I'm Chinese Canadian myself and understand Cantonese, but admittedly it's not that great. I can get by as I learned it informally from my parents and family, but have no idea how to say things like, "blowjob" or "I want to shoot cum on your face". This thus left me with very few choices and so I chose Apple and for $480 HKD I went with a massage + body massage (in Canada we'd call it bodyslide) + shower + BBBJ (Apple wouldn't allow cim or tc) + sex (with condom.- just so nobody gets confused or asks).

Prior to this I had no knowledge or experience of the Hong Kong scene as I never thought I'd actually partake in it (this was intended as my shopping and rest & relaxation vacation) so at the Sheraton lobby's internet machines, I did about an hour of reading here and Google'ing.

For the newbie or foreigner, the girls here seem to operate in a one girl per room/apartment operation (similar to how the Asian incalls work in Canada and it's now obvious to me where the idea came from) with guys young and old milling about outside checking out the doorfront photos (if there are any) or waiting their turn. It made me a bit nervous as in Canada something like this would immediately alert the neighbours and warrant a call to the police to shut down the operation, but the mongers in Hong Kong were quite friendly it seemed as we all were looking for the same thing. Anyways, I find the building (not easy! ) and apartment unit, knock on Apple's door, she looks decent enough if about 10+ years older than her online ad/profile states, but it's acceptable and I tell her, Alright let's get it on.

We start with Apple giving me a massage on the bed (a sleeping bed, not a massage bed) which is pretty good actually. She has strong arms for someone of slim/medium build, maybe 110 lbs and only about 5'2". This goes on for about twenty minutes upon which I turn over and she starts giving me a handjob. However, I look over to my clothes and notice that she must've gone through the pockets as they're no longer neatly folded (something I always intentionally do specifically so I'll know if any girl tries to go through my wallet when I'm not in the room) and I make a mental note to check my things before leaving. Since I've already given her the money though and I do want to cum, I continue with the session.

Next up is the body massage in the washroom/toilet. I take a quick rinse in the shower, Apple joins me and we lather each other up in soap at which point she tells me to sit on the toilet (there's no cover on it) and begins rubbing and sliding her body and 34Bs all over me. I can now see why bodyslides are so popular! Fucking her tits, I could've cum right there but I hold off as I want the main event. After five minutes of this we wash ourselves down and head back to the bed where she begins giving me an uncovered blowjob with specific mention to not cum in her mouth. Maybe only two minutes of this she stops and says it's time to fuck. Mentally I know I've only been here only half an hour at this point and realize it's not $480 HKD for an hour, it's for an hour or until I cum once.- whichever happens first. Essentially at this point I think she's trying to rush things and knowing that the rest of the session isn't going to be relaxed or sensual, I begin pounding her in missionary, doggy and missionary again until I cum. In and out it's been 45 minutes but at $480 HKD I have no complaints. That was $63 CAN ( $55 USD for my American friends) at the time and in comparison, for the same service and time spent in Canada it would've cost me $160+ at a minimum. I also tried to find that 37 Dundas I read about in other reviews here and thought I did, but the price I was quoted was like $522 HKD and it looked more like an incall than massage/sauna.

Some questions for the knowledgeable Hong Kong mongers though, Are all places like this a cum once only and you're done deal? Hopefully I'll be back again in late winter/early Spring (though again for a shopping trip but I'll make some time for fun).

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Hi Bare,

That's an interesting way to hunt. What time early in the morning do you recommend?

Cheers

Zuzon X

[QUOTE=LuvumBare]I have had my best early morning experiences by standing on the ground near the elevator of my hotel. What you get is last nights take away who is now heading for home. Make eye contact and smile. If she responds, go to the coffee shop, buy her some food and make your deal. My success rate is about 95%.
'bare[/QUOTE]

Applesauce,

Did she take anything from your pockets/wallet?

[QUOTE=Sad Sam]It seems like girls at YS places (like 37 Dundas and K pressure) are much more likely to provide BBBJ / CIM. How about 141 girls? How would you go about asking for it? Also, are the YS places open through the night?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Every girl at 37D will do BBBJ. It is hit or miss with 141 and YS girls. (Strictly speaking, 37D is not a YS. In a YS, you get a room and they bring you a girl. At 37D you choose from a lineup and go to a separate "love hotel.")

37D is open until at least 2, I think maybe even until 4-5. The morning is the only slow/closed time.

[QUOTE=Gman7424]Gentlemen,

First let me say that this forum is a great resource to many who travel to ASIA and I have learned from every post.

I will be in Hong Kong on 10/20 and 10/21 and will be staying at the LKF Hotel, it seems to be a trendy hotel in a very HOT area. I am curious if anyone knows if this is a girl friendly hotel?

On another note I am looking for a more mature experience this time in Hong Kong, someone above the age of 35 who offers class and style.

Any of you gentlemen have a recommendation for me?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

RTFF. This was discussed within the last 4 pages. EVERY HK hotel is girl friendly unless it's a religious hostel or something like that. RTFF.

To sum up, RTFF.

Careful. You asked to see the manager but you didn't really want to see the manager. They're all triad. They won't mess with a gweilo (if you are one), but why stir the pot? The mamas are there for a very defined task--show you the girls, bring you a drink, take your money and see you out the door up to the hotel. They may ask you how you liked it afterward but they are not there for customer service. There basically is no customer service. YMMV in all mongering experiences. Many girls at 37D will do anal, just get back on the horse and try again.

[QUOTE=Wadman]I find myself in Hong Kong for a day, so decide to visit 37 Dundas again. The first visit was good [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=788301&postcount=2201[/url]
but this time? Well, read on...

From previous reports here, it seems that some girls at 37 Dundas do anal. Not wanting to leave anything to chance, I ask the mamasan if she has any girls that will do anal. She says yes. But I have to wait a little bit, because there are not that many of them. Fair enough. After 15 minutes, she brings in "Tina", a bit chubby, from Sichuan province in China. Not wanting to wait any longer, I accept.

We go up a few floors to the hotel, scrub in the shower, quick BBBJ, rather long catbath on the bed. Some more BBBJ, and then stick it into her pussy. When it comes to the anal part, she says no. As in, flatly refuses. I tell her that mamasan told me that she does anal, and that is why I took her. She says she does not, and has never done anal before. Mamasan must have made a mistake, she says.

I asked her to call mamasan on the phone, she refuses. Says she does not remember which mamasan brought her in. This is bullshit of course, as it is the same mamasan who also fetched her to take me upstairs. I asked her 3 times for emphasis, she gives me the same bullshit answer 3 times: can't remember which mamasan.

Meanwhile the clock is ticking of course. 10 minutes have already been spent on this by with only about about 20 minutes left. I thought very hard about getting dressed and walking out. Problem is, I don't think I will get my money back. She offers to blow me to completion. It's either this, or nothing. So I said, fine go ahead. Even the CIM is half-assed, she pulls away as soon as I start shooting.

When I get back to the main floor, it complaining time! I asked the mamasan whether I made it clear enough that I wanted a girl who does anal. She says yes, she understood. So did the girl that she brought me do anal or not?!?! She says, the girl is supposed to. I tell her that the girl flatly refused. Mamasan then says that the girl says I am too big for her arse (in my dreams...). I tell her, that's not what the girl told me: she said that does not do anal, has never done anal before, and mamasan screwed up. Mamasan apologizes of course, but what do I get for that?

This goes on for about 10 minutes. Mamasan then says she needs to talk it over with the other mommies. She stays away for a good 10 minutes. Tired of waiting, I throw the door of the tiny KTV room open. Quick as a flash, one of the mommies come over and tells me that it's company rules to have these doors open. I tell her to get the other mommy back in here, and I will close the door. Sure enough, original mommy comes back quick enough. Another round of the same shit. She offers to bring me another girl, and comped me the hotel room fee of 100 HK$. As if I am in the mood. This is like getting food poisoning at a restaurant, and they apologize by giving you a 20% off coupon for your next meal there.

So now the point becomes why the girl refused to call mommy. Even the mommy thinks it's too far-fetched that the girl cannot remember which mommy brought her. Mommy tells me I could have called myself. Yeah, but the be-atches of a mommies don't introduce themselves, so how am I supposed to know who to ask for? And anyway, since when did that become the customer's responsibility?

Mamasan says I could have called, or walked out earlier, and she would have changed girls for me. I challenge her, whether after 30 minutes, she would really change girls for me FREE OF CHARGE. She skirts the issue, only says that she could have switched girls. "For FREE?" I asked again. She doesn't answer. So there is your answer, it's NO.

I asked to see the manager of the place. Mommy says they don't really have a manager there, just mommies. How about the boss then? He is not here... She says she will get one of the other mommies to come over (to calm me down).

Another mommy enters, and I asked her if she is the manager. She says: yes...sort of. Jeeezus, the lies. Anyway... different mommy, same complaining routine all over again. Same useless apologies from mommy number 2.

On the way out, I see an older mommy standing around. Maybe she has more authority. But yup, you guessed it: same shit again. Same useless, fucking apologies.

Man!!! I have to say this has really left a bad taste in my mouth. 37 Dundas is supposed to be legendary with its service. It wasn't. Complaining didn't do shit, other than get a "sorry". This is what you would expect from mainland China, the "bu hao yisi's" (sorry's). Not Hong Kong. Now I also know why they make you pay upfront. Even in China, they don't make you pay upfront. It's doubtful that I will be back in 37 Dundas after this.

Place: 37 Dundas
Time: Friday, 4 PM
Girl: from Sichuan, a bit chubby
Face: 5
Body: 5
BBBJ: 8
CIM: about 30%
Overall: 1 - plain lousy experience[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Careful. You asked to see the manager but you didn't really want to see the manager. They're all triad. They won't mess with a gweilo (if you are one), but why stir the pot? The mamas are there for a very defined task--show you the girls, bring you a drink, take your money and see you out the door up to the hotel. They may ask you how you liked it afterward but they are not there for customer service. There basically is no customer service. YMMV in all mongering experiences. Many girls at 37D will do anal, just get back on the horse and try again.[/QUOTE]

I'm amazed that this needed saying, but obviously did. Is Hong Kong some Nevada colony where you speak to a lawyer if the locals don't do as they're told??

I'm not sure if Wadman's later comment about getting them to inspect the size of his dick beforehand was facetious or not. Never mind triads, try adapting to a country's system of etiquette a bit - not to mention a bit of inter-gender empathy. If you speak to a top class western escort who 'does' anal, she will still usually hedge it with conditions, and it's not always to swindle you. Some women can open their rear hole wide on demand just like some can deep throat. But for a great number it is something that requires a little expertise on the part of the male so that she's eased into it.

Now of course I could have read that completely wrong. Contrary to other mongers' experiences and my own, Dundas 37 might throw in rip-offs and deliberately mislead. But think how much a person with minimal language and HK culture skills is misleading quite unintentionally. HK girls are not the same as Chinese and have little of the 'peasant doing as I'm told' mentality.



I recall a situation once where, in a normally perfectly business-like joint, I didn't click with the attitude of the woman and made a complaint. A kindly (and rather large) doorman appeared out of thin air. He gently and politely ushered me towards an office but, instead of inviting me in, stood with me at the top of a broken iron staircase with two other kindly looking thugs. They could afford to look benign - it was obvious they could trash me with as little hassle as trashing a cigarette stub. They didn't even say anything, just stood there. I had the option of a deep dive or of opening negotiations!

Many thanks for all the advice here. So just my 2 cents worth.

With Fenwicks. I like to go 9ish. And focus on the sweet looking girls who look as if they just got off the boat.

They tend to let you decide the price and if you treat them real nice they give back in return is bucketfuls.

The other week was there. Did my round of Fenwicks. Avoided the girls scamming for drinks as I got my own. Avoided the aggresive ones who pounce on you. As they tend to have inflated prices for little return.

Saw one cutie. Not slim but curvy with a very sweet face. Looked a bit lost hovering at entrance. Approached her and just asked if I could help her. She seemed happy with the company. Had arrived a few days so was quite new at it. Pinoy girl from Manila. Student nurse. Looking to pay for her next semester. Offered to get her out fo there and have dinner. She said yes and we had a nice quite dinner with lots of wine down the road. I asked if she wanted to come over to my hotel. Then she mentioned what was the deal. I said HK$ 800 all night. She immediately said yes. Hmmm better than I thought.

Went to my hotel. Which was the Conrad. Grabbed some cocktails from 711 on the way.

In the room we sat down and opened the drinks and started to chat a bit. Before long she started to take initiatibe and giving a very full on DFK which went on and on. She had great lips and enthusisatic tongue. Before long she was unzipping me and going down on with equal enthusiasm as I started removing all her clothes. This took some time and was rather exquisite foreplay. Then she wanted to shower. But seperately. Which I was amendable to as I could get some energy back.

She was first then me. When I came out she was lying rather seductively in bed. I hopped in and from that momemt on I was give the most incredile GFE sex.

This went on all night with a couple of breaks in between.

We woke up at 7pm. Me to work. Her to back to her abode.

She let me her number and email and as I had one more night in HKG and really could not be bothered to chase a newbie again I rang her for another session. She came over at 7pm and for the same deal we were at it til the next morning.

All in all a great time and mindblowing sex for HK$ 1600 and dinner and some wine. The effort was minimal but the return exceptional.

So. The morale of my tale is. Keep an eye on the sweet ones because behidn that sweetness is a horny Filipino dying to get out.

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Hello to everyone,

I have been in HK many times in the last 3 years, but never stayed for more than 1-2 days as I usually go to/from Shenzhen, so I never mongered in HK itself. This time I'm here for 6 days for the first time and could not miss this opportunity.

Thanks to the excellent reporting of the fellow mongers, I was well educated in advance what to expect and how to deal with it. Last night my friend and I went to Fenwicks on the advise of El Malo Hombre (thank you for the great detailed report on the bar scene). The place was jumming around 23:00 and it took us about 15 minutes to find a pair of good looking Vietnamese gals. After a very short and direct negotiations, my girl and I agreed to HK$1200 for the night and I'm not ordering here a ridiculously expensive drink. My friend, amazed by how quickly it was done, stayed while we jumped into taxi and headed for my hotel.

We got into the hotel and I asked her if she wants a drink at the bar. She said No. When we were buying condoms at 7-11 next door, I asked her if she wanted a water or something. She said No. We got into the room, got undressed, went into the shower. A hurried experience to say the least. We get out of the shower and she asks for the money, which I already do not like. A bad sign. I take the money out and put it on the table, telling her she can take it in the morning. And than the Hussle starts.

"The music was loud", she says, "I could not hear the "all night" thing. It was HK$1200 for 1 time". (Of course, 1200 part she heard fine.) I said, honey, this is HK, 1 time does not cost that much here. Where do you think you are? Then the was an offer of two times, then of a BJ, then I was just explained that I owe money fo the taxi. To make long story short I kicked the ***** out without a single penny.

Name: Lin or Lee
Face: 7/10
Body: 7/10
Skill: N/A
Service: N/A

Once she is out of the room (it is 12:10 at night) I switch to plan B – Joye, described by Qiao Han in his post – she is working up to 01:00 in the morning and is recommended.

Good experience. Not a beauty, but very dedicated, nice, hard working lady. For HK$100 more I was given an option of anal or the 2nd time. Did not though experience that pussy muscle action - there was something, but by far not what I expected.

Name:Joey
Face: 6/10
Body: 5/10
Skill: 8/10
Service: 10/10

Today decided to go for a massage and went to King Sauna on Fortress Hill, a block away from my hotel (City Garden). It is on a small side street off Electric Road, you can see the half lit sign saying “una” from there.

The place is a dump (HK$326 for 90 minutes massage). The girl knew what massage was, but nobody taught her how to do it. After about 1 hour of repeating the same moves on my back I was asked if I’d like a special service. I said Yes and was declared HK$900 for full service. I said they must be crazy and asked how much is a BJ. An English speaking attendant showed up and announced that HJ is HK$800. I said that for this kind of money my experienced hand will do much better and left. Then I realized that the quote likely included the “massage” HK$326, but even then I find the price ridiculous. On my way out I saw no less than 4 other girls in different rooms, all good looking. Stay away nonetheless.

Good hunting everybody!

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I came to Hong Kong for the first time in 15 years on business.

And I want to share my experience with you.

I think everybody knows that "141 system" in Hong Kong.

[url]http://******.com/en/main.php[/url]

There are 2 type of fun. "apartment" and "hotel reservation".

"apartment" are much cheaper but you don't know if she is pretty or not but most of "hotel reservation" are shown her face so you can choose your type of girl.

Anyway, thanks to working in Taiwan for long time, I speak Mandarin and I tried "hotel reservation" tonight. In other website says that it is hard for foreigners who doesn't speak Chinese because you have to make reservation with her manager. I started talk in Mandarin but I hardly understood what he said. (his mandarin was more Cantonese) so he started speaking English (sounds Cantonese too). Anyway, I went to the hotel he told me and called him again.

He told me her room # and I went to her room.

Tonight I reserved a beautiful Korean girl "Soke".

[url]http://******.com/en/viewid.php?uid=26529&region=-1&building=-1&territory=-1&age=-1&bsize=-1&height=-1&service=-1&nationality=korea&stype=-1&keyword=[/url]

She is the same as the picture on website.

Although her English was not good, her face and body made me excite.

BJ was with rubber but she kept doing it long time until I said OK.

I switched position many times and she let me kiss her (many BBS says they don't) and I sprayed her tits.

This is my second best experience (still FKK club in Germany is the best).
And it only cost me HK$1000(around US$130).

I strongly recommend you try it when you are in Hong Kong next time.

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Gentlemen,

A small off that may have been discussed before, but I just wanted to ask your opinion: does it make any sense to you (as it does to me) to have another discussion for various countries on subjects that are not necessarily sex related? Most of us are either travelers or expats, possessing a wealth of knowledge and experience we can help each other with. For example, I'm in HKG regularly and would like to maybe make a suite, but I have no clue where to go. It is obvious you can not rely on street peddlers, it is not cheap top go to well known places like Sam's, but maybe our comrades in arms can recommend a good and inexpensive tailor? Same applies to hotels, restaurants, stores, markets, etc.. It is hard to underestimate the amount of knowledge we combined posses and how much it could help all of us to have access to it.

Thank you for your attention.

[QUOTE=Msav2]Gentlemen,

A small off that may have been discussed before, but I just wanted to ask your opinion: does it make any sense to you (as it does to me) to have another discussion for various countries on subjects that are not necessarily sex related? Most of us are either travelers or expats, possessing a wealth of knowledge and experience we can help each other with.[/QUOTE]

There is an excellent pg rated forum that does exactly this:

flyertalk.com > travel & dining section

Had a great time at 37 Dundas tonight. Got there at around 8:30, was given a line up of 4 girls, 3 of whom were imminently acceptable. Took Nan Ji (?), mid-20s with a couple of tattoos. Great performance, with body slide in the shower, BBBJ for 15-20 minutes, then great performance in the bed afterwards.

I've noticed that the mamasans tend to treat you better once they know you (I'm hard to forget). I've been to 37D three times, all in the middle of the week around the same time. First time, no lineup, 1 girl. Second time, 2 girls, third time (tonight), 4. Interesting pattern (but I guess they don't have to worry about business, even in an economic downturn, with their prices!)

Anyway, the main point of this post is to note that walking out of 37D tonight, I discovered that the Kowloon Motor Bus #104 runs directly from the Nathan Road/Dundas Street intersection straight to the heart of Wan Chai, for $9.3. Get off at the Gloucester Road/Fenwick St stop (3rd or 4th stop past the tunnel), and you're a block north of Laguna and Fenwicks. Goes the other way as well. Very convenient if you're in one place or the other and don't want to mess with walking all the way to the MTR, going up and down the corridors, and the mass of people.

In short, no stairs, same amount of time (when factoring in the walking to/from the trains), guaranteed a nice seat, and direct delivery between the 2 most fun places in Hong Kong. Thanks, KMB!

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]There is an excellent pg rated forum that does exactly this:

flyertalk.com > travel & dining section[/QUOTE]Thank you, I'll check it out. At the time there could be topics that are probably impossible to discuss on other boards - for example, rating clubs and pars for pickup/value/fun, hotels for girl friendliness, etc.

Hello fellow mongers! This is your unlucky colleague reporting. I guess HK is not for me. From 4 attempts 1 was worth the effort, time and money. I do not remember a time when within 2 days I was naked with a woman and nothing happened twice.

Today I decided to head to the 141 complexes 3 blocks from my hotel. 1/F, 321 King Road, Coronet Court in North Point. First of all, the address is a piece of BS. It takes forever to find that door and when you do there is no 1/F there, only 2/F. I do not know if tenants at 2F wanted to be f. Ked by a stranger for HK$400 and decided not to ask. On my way to 2F I was scared almost to a heart attack by an insane cat, who found nothing better to do than to accelerate and jump on the stairway in front of me out of nowhere, then turn on a dime and jump out of the window. All of this with a horrible scream.

I got down, went to the stores next door and some annoyed neighbor/guard showed me out to North Point Road and that is where the entrance really is.

The girls I looked at at 141 where all busy, but there were many other doors with names from 161, 147, 5514, 26802 and probably even 345678. I got tired of reading nymbers and rung the bell to the first door with a Welcome sign. Other signs on the door included the following information in English: 2B, 100% Pure and Cantonese. I rang the bell. The girl opened, pretty nice, good body. The tits on her picture are clearly loaned from somebody else and since then she returned them to the owner.

Went to the shower. The first bad sign. She washed my rod, but was too lazy to even wash my balls, let alone the rest of my beautiful fat body. Oh-oh, I thought. I was out all day long and either she is pregnant and wants some salty nuts or she does not intend to do anything with them. Well, guess what. She did not. The good thing is that I'm not a lazy lad and it did not bother me to wash my balls with my own hands.

Got to the bad. Attempt was made to start on CBJ, but was quickly repelled. The face of the beauty looked like I want to stuck in her throat something I just pulled out of my ass. "Well. I thought, you should have washed it better honey". After about 2 minutes of a game called "Let's pretend I'm giving you a BBBJ" my beauty ordered me around to change positions, where she'd be on the bed and I, a tired traveler, will do all the work. So I did for a few minutes, rotation to doggy, moaning (sometimes she stopped, I guess forgetting what she was supposed to do at that point) and my decision to play for my money with my rules. I turned her around put her on top of me and she said No. Boy, was I pissed. I said, OK, fine, I'm outta here (I just had 2 of these great experiences, why not take it a step further). She said: "And money? ". "No work, no money" was my manly response with a very angry face. "I'll do everything you wish, my master". Her face said, so she mounted my wild 2 inch stallion and began to ride it all the way until the minute expired. After about 30 seconds the poor thing was so tired. Nonetheless, as I told Lin from Fenwick the other night, I'm a very bad man with the cold, cold heart, who treats *****s like the *****s they are when they do not want to work. So I said, no go on. Ride that choo-choo train baby. Another attempt, no less than 20 seconds. She is tired again. Maybe I never was on my 4s with my ass up and a dick up my pussy, but I could not understand what exactly did she do to be so tired.

In any case, I told her to suck it. OK in rubber (at the end, it takes me forever to finish in it, so she'll have to work more). After about 3-4 minutes of not bad blowing her lips got tired and she switched to the hand. Then again. And again. And again, until finally I see that I'm getting a HJ. Wow, I said. That I can do to myself for free and probably better than you do. If you want to do the hand, at least leak my pouch and thank me for washing it. The half ass effort there too, resulting at her proudly passing my own penis to me stating that she can not do these 2 increadinly difficult tasks at the same time.

At the end she won. I got her up into doggy and finished her off. She barely washed me, I paid $400 (and back to the hotel I checked, she charges $380, so I even tipped the *****) and I was gone. Th experience was lousy, but my empty balls happily chimed along the way.

Therefore my brothers, here is a warning to you to avoid the 2B like a plague she is. Here is more data:

Name: Yeung Yeung
Address: Room 2B, 1/F 321 Kings Rd, Coronet Court, North Point, Nevada, USA
Face: 8/10
Body: 8/10
Professional attitude: 1/10
Skills: 2/10
Value: 1/10

Available at 161, North Point.

Good mongering everybody!

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[QUOTE=Msav2]Thank you, I'll check it out. At the time there could be topics that are probably impossible to discuss on other boards - for example, rating clubs and pars for pickup/value/fun, hotels for girl friendliness, etc.[/QUOTE]

HK hotels are 99.99% GF. And flyertalk.com is 100% PG rated.

Yes, I know about the HKG, but I'm talking about the addition of some kind of a separate section for non-directly sex related discussions and other offs for each geographical forum. If there is one thing that units us here besides mongering is that we all are travelers or expats. We have a lot of things beyond sex to help each other with, I think it is not wise not to use this vehicle for this. And unlike the PG rated forums, here we can discuss everything, from every angle.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Careful. You asked to see the manager but you didn't really want to see the manager. They're all triad. They won't mess with a gweilo (if you are one), but why stir the pot? The mamas are there for a very defined task--show you the girls, bring you a drink, take your money and see you out the door up to the hotel. They may ask you how you liked it afterward but they are not there for customer service. There basically is no customer service. YMMV in all mongering experiences. Many girls at 37D will do anal, just get back on the horse and try again.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the feedback, Jonhnny. For the record, all I did was complain verbally. At no point did I become physically threathening, or shoved a fist under mamasan's face.

I am not sure I agree with comment "there basically is no customer service". Not at 37D. Because 37D doesn't have the prettiest or youngest girls, that is their selling point: service. That, and not much else. If it wasn't for the reports on 37D's service, I would never have gone there in the first place.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]I'm amazed that this needed saying, but obviously did. Is Hong Kong some Nevada colony where you speak to a lawyer if the locals don't do as they're told??
[/QUOTE]

I was pretty sure I wasn't going to get any kind of redress. Just wanted to see if it would be any different from complaining in China. The answer seems to be no. Even in China, sometimes if the sauna feels bad, they will give you discount coupons towards your next visit...sometimes

[QUOTE=Christopherd]
I'm not sure if Wadman's later comment about getting them to inspect the size of his dick beforehand was facetious or not.
[/QUOTE]

I was not. Dick size is an obvious excuse for not doing anal. But then, even if you pass this test, there are many other excuses: upset stomach, sore ass ...

[QUOTE=Christopherd]
Never mind triads, try adapting to a country's system of etiquette a bit - not to mention a bit of inter-gender empathy. If you speak to a top class western escort who 'does' anal, she will still usually hedge it with conditions, and it's not always to swindle you. Some women can open their rear hole wide on demand just like some can deep throat. But for a great number it is something that requires a little expertise on the part of the male so that she's eased into it.
[/QUOTE]

First time I went to 37D, I did not mention anything to the mommy about anal. I friendly and politely asked the girl I pciked whether anal is a possibility. She politely and friendly refused. And that was the end of that. No more discussions or attitude, or anything.

The problem I have with this time is that I expressedly asked the mamma for a girl that does anal.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]
HK girls are not the same as Chinese and have little of the 'peasant doing as I'm told' mentality.
[/QUOTE]

I get the distinct impression that a lot of girls in 37D are PRC girls. Both times, mine were. One from ChongQing, and one from Sichuan. Both spoke Mandarin like a native.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]
I recall a situation once where, in a normally perfectly business-like joint, I didn't click with the attitude of the woman and made a complaint. A kindly (and rather large) doorman appeared out of thin air. He gently and politely ushered me towards an office but, instead of inviting me in, stood with me at the top of a broken iron staircase with two other kindly looking thugs. They could afford to look benign - it was obvious they could trash me with as little hassle as trashing a cigarette stub. They didn't even say anything, just stood there. I had the option of a deep dive or of opening negotiations![/QUOTE]

Honestly, you could still have registered your complaint. Just tell them politely what the problem was. If you were not expecting something unreasonable/extra, I don't think they would start swinging. I have registered complaints with male pimps in BBSs in China.

I am about to hit Hong Kong again shortly and will provide the usual up to date scene reports on my usual haunts - Neptunes/Fenwicks.Galaxy/141 etc. However, those with a good memory of my reports last February will recollect, among several ladies I met and with whom I shared some horizontal refreshment, Miss "M" "turned" my head - the top one that is. Well, to cut a long story short, we have stayed in contact ever since - she texts me 3/4 times a day. phones 3/4 times week, emails me - current count is over 1100 in 9 months - speaks to me om YM every day for about 2 hours, and has never once asked for any money. She has, she says, become a worthy lady and only earns from drinks now. Well, why not believe that? I may add that I know they can do very well from that source alone - on a reasonable night up to $800/1000. Compared to the Phil average wage - that's not too bad.
I have agreed she can stay with me in my hotel for my 2 week vacation - could be a mistake - but there is a considerable potential "saving" of up to $1000 a night in that arrangment (I never pay more that $1000 for LT). Ok - there are meals and drinks etc and the day-to-day living expenses,

One side of me tells me I am making a mistake as I will not be able to monger to the same extent - although I have "ways" of being excused for a few hours for research purposes only, you understand.

My friends tell me Mody's bar in TST is an "interesting" place - does any fellow mongerer know anything about it? It must be close to Sticky Fingers. I can find no reference to this bar in the forums.

Thanks for any help, assistance, advice.

I usually start about 0800 and will hang out the elevator area until I catch something or 1000. I don't always stand there drooling; I will get a coffee and walk the area. You will spot them or they will spot you. No real skills required.
'Bare

There was some mention a while back that this was a sister location to 8 Mong Kok and that there were better looking girls for a slightly higher price (400 if I recall).
Any one been there recently? Any info would be appreciated. I can not seem to find anything other than that one mention.

Moody's bar is in TST directly accross stree from Grand stanford and Nikko hotel. It is about 1 block away from sticky fingers.

I stopped by Moody's when I was in HK last month. Nice bar that is open to the street, the girls usually wait for you on table set up outside on side walk.

While I was there, the hostess introduced man next to us to beautiful woman. Other ones out on were OK. We left and walked down towards sticky fingers, on the way you past through courtyard where there are plently of mamasans waiting to hook you up with their girls in the park.

Sticky finger was packed, loud and girls looked good also, however it seemed like Moody was more laid back than SF.

Definitely check out Moodys, also remember there is good selection of girls in the courtyard between Moody's and the Regal kowloon.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]I am about to hit Hong Kong again shortly and will provide the usual up to date scene reports on my usual haunts - Neptunes/Fenwicks.Galaxy/141 etc. However, those with a good memory of my reports last February will recollect, among several ladies I met and with whom I shared some horizontal refreshment, Miss "M" "turned" my head - the top one that is. Well, to cut a long story short, we have stayed in contact ever since - she texts me 3/4 times a day. phones 3/4 times week, emails me - current count is over 1100 in 9 months - speaks to me om YM every day for about 2 hours, and has never once asked for any money. She has, she says, become a worthy lady and only earns from drinks now. Well, why not believe that? I may add that I know they can do very well from that source alone - on a reasonable night up to $800/1000. Compared to the Phil average wage - that's not too bad.

I have agreed she can stay with me in my hotel for my 2 week vacation - could be a mistake - but there is a considerable potential "saving" of up to $1000 a night in that arrangment (I never pay more that $1000 for LT). Ok - there are meals and drinks etc and the day-to-day living expenses,

One side of me tells me I am making a mistake as I will not be able to monger to the same extent - although I have "ways" of being excused for a few hours for research purposes only, you understand.

My friends tell me Mody's bar in TST is an "interesting" place - does any fellow mongerer know anything about it? It must be close to Sticky Fingers. I can find no reference to this bar in the forums.

Thanks for any help, assistance, advice.[/QUOTE]

After midnight, check out Shanghai Street in Jordan, just north of Jordan Road. There were serious street walker activity last night all lined up and ready to go. Good quality too! Only $200. I would have done it if I didn't already had a session elsewhere earlier that night.

These Jordan gals remind me of the Golden Age of Mongkok brothels when you had a bunch of young working non-pros who were in the city illegally.

For $200, I'm sure service is just run-of-the-mill. But if she'd do you for $200, perhaps you can get almost whatever you want for $400.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]I am about to hit Hong Kong again shortly and will provide the usual up to date scene reports on my usual haunts - Neptunes/Fenwicks.Galaxy/141 etc. However, those with a good memory of my reports last February will recollect, among several ladies I met and with whom I shared some horizontal refreshment, Miss "M" "turned" my head - the top one that is. Well, to cut a long story short, we have stayed in contact ever since - she texts me 3/4 times a day. phones 3/4 times week, emails me - current count is over 1100 in 9 months - speaks to me om YM every day for about 2 hours, and has never once asked for any money. She has, she says, become a worthy lady and only earns from drinks now. Well, why not believe that? I may add that I know they can do very well from that source alone - on a reasonable night up to $800/1000. Compared to the Phil average wage - that's not too bad.
I have agreed she can stay with me in my hotel for my 2 week vacation - could be a mistake - but there is a considerable potential "saving" of up to $1000 a night in that arrangment (I never pay more that $1000 for LT). Ok - there are meals and drinks etc and the day-to-day living expenses,

One side of me tells me I am making a mistake as I will not be able to monger to the same extent - although I have "ways" of being excused for a few hours for research purposes only, you understand.

My friends tell me Mody's bar in TST is an "interesting" place - does any fellow mongerer know anything about it? It must be close to Sticky Fingers. I can find no reference to this bar in the forums.

Thanks for any help, assistance, advice.[/QUOTE]

Jack,
think what you are doing! Is she a Filipina? Then you are in trouble for the research. Thse girls have the famous PGN=philippine girls network. You talk to one - everyone knows.
So you will be stuck with 141 or YS places ...... being not so bad as well actually.
Have a good time and all the best,
Mike

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami]Had a great time at 37 Dundas tonight. Got there at around 8:30, was given a line up of 4 girls, 3 of whom were imminently acceptable. Took Nan Ji (?), mid-20s with a couple of tattoos. Great performance, with body slide in the shower, BBBJ for 15-20 minutes, then great performance in the bed afterwards.

I've noticed that the mamasans tend to treat you better once they know you (I'm hard to forget). I've been to 37D three times, all in the middle of the week around the same time. First time, no lineup, 1 girl. Second time, 2 girls, third time (tonight), 4. Interesting pattern (but I guess they don't have to worry about business, even in an economic downturn, with their prices!)

Anyway, the main point of this post is to note that walking out of 37D tonight, I discovered that the Kowloon Motor Bus #104 runs directly from the Nathan Road/Dundas Street intersection straight to the heart of Wan Chai, for $9.3. Get off at the Gloucester Road/Fenwick St stop (3rd or 4th stop past the tunnel), and you're a block north of Laguna and Fenwicks. Goes the other way as well. Very convenient if you're in one place or the other and don't want to mess with walking all the way to the MTR, going up and down the corridors, and the mass of people.

In short, no stairs, same amount of time (when factoring in the walking to/from the trains), guaranteed a nice seat, and direct delivery between the 2 most fun places in Hong Kong. Thanks, KMB![/QUOTE]Thanks for the helpful info about the bus. I'll surely use your tip next time. A good shag at Dundas followed up by drinks with a hot Filipina at Neptune will make for a great night!

I feel for your report on Viets

I have had a couple of bad experiences with Viets. They always grab you and act like they are the hottest women in the bar. Very flirty and sexy.

However once in your room. They will always ask money up front. And they inflate the price. Then the experience is never as good as they indicate. Always as fast as possible and always ready to get out with the cash.

In Hong Kong. I look for the Filipinos and get selective on the sweet ones. Never been disappointed from those I have picked up.

My other advice is also not to pick any girl using the escorts page in the directory. You never get the girl you want and she will be as quick as a flash.

[QUOTE=Scuba 1972]I feel for your report on Viets

I have had a couple of bad experiences with Viets. They always grab you and act like they are the hottest women in the bar. Very flirty and sexy.

However once in your room. They will always ask money up front. And they inflate the price. Then the experience is never as good as they indicate. Always as fast as possible and always ready to get out with the cash.

In Hong Kong. I look for the Filipinos and get selective on the sweet ones. Never been disappointed from those I have picked up.

My other advice is also not to pick any girl using the escorts page in the directory. You never get the girl you want and she will be as quick as a flash.[/QUOTE]

Really? I always had a lot of fun in bed with viets. Not very GF, but hot in bed.
Like phils more as well as a package.

Just email this advice to a mate going to HKG for the first time, so decided to share it win my fellow brothers on here.

Arriving into HKG at 6am and trainining it to Wanchai doing a quick checkin at the Wharney and then down the street for a pick up is a treat. A good root & a sleep before 10am local time is the best way to arrive in a city no jet lag!

Cheers for now brothers

This is the site I use for hotel bookings in Asia.

My preference is to stay at the Luk Kwok (12) or the Wharney Hotel (3) both in Wanchai.

[url]http://www.agoda.com/MapManagement/Map.aspx?area_id=26032&hotel_id=2183[/url]


See hotel map of Wanchai with Jaffe Rd & Lockhart Rd are the best place to be especially if you check out:

Fenwick’s
Neptune’s
Joe Banana’s
Dusk Till Dawn
Delaney’s Bar
Bull Dog Bar

Enjoy yourself and travel safe.

My pickings in HKG has so far been restricted to Fenwicks. As it seems to have quantity located there. I like to spend my time trawling around the place and picking a Filipino. My Viet experience has probably put me off them. As I found them too aggresive.

However apart from my trip early this year where I scored with the sweet Flipino (which I give a 9/10 for GFE and overall fantastic time). However she is back in Manila. So my subsequent visits have been not so good: 8/10 lookers but 6/10 for experience.

However I have been to a couple of bars around Fenwick areas and found quality and quantity lacking. Am heading back to HKG in the next month. So seek advoce on whether things have improved and whether there are any new bars where the best Pinoy or Indonesian totty go to?

Hi Scuba,

Just been reading your comments. Fenwicks is one of my favourite hunting grounds.

Just out of interest do you remember the name of the Filipina you met in Fenwicks earleir this year who you rated 9/10 GFE. Just wondered. Met a girl called Rosalie there in March/April time who was great (I would have rated her 9/10) but haven't seen her since. If by a longshot it was same girl then the fact she is back in Manila would explain it!

Cheers,

CT

I just returned from HK to China.

The best place to get a visa to enter China is to go to Chungking Mansion, second block, elevator A.

China Visa Service

It is on the same floor as the New Kowloon Guest and Apple Guest House. In the corner, there is a small office advertising visas for different countries. 750 HK for a double entry visa (I am Canadian). If you submit your passport before 11:00 am, it will be ready at 1:00 pm the next day. I have used this service many times.

My advice is to don't bother saving a few dollars by going to the Chinese governments office in Hk. The lineup will be too long, and also you will spend too much time trying to find the building.

New Kowloon Guest house:

You can get a room for 200 HK, clean, with a tv and shared toilet. Very safe.

Don't bother listening to anybody who tries to offer you a room near the entrance of Chungking mansion. The majority of hostels/guest houses are dirty and run down. Lots of shady characters!

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I just returned from HK to China....

New Kowloon Guest house:

You can get a room for 200 HK, clean, with a tv and shared toilet. Very safe.

Don't bother listening to anybody who tries to offer you a room near the entrance of Chungking mansion. The majority of hostels/guest houses are dirty and run down. Lots of shady characters![/QUOTE]
The last few sentences of Ace of Spades' post are important to know and deserve to be higlighted on their own, instead of being buried at the end of a useful report of China visas.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I just returned from HK to China.

The best place to get a visa to enter China is to go to Chungking Mansion, second block, elevator A.

China Visa Service

It is on the same floor as the New Kowloon Guest and Apple Guest House. In the corner, there is a small office advertising visas for different countries. 750 HK for a double entry visa (I am Canadian). If you submit your passport before 11:00 am, it will be ready at 1:00 pm the next day. I have used this service many times.

My advice is to don't bother saving a few dollars by going to the Chinese governments office in Hk. The lineup will be too long, and also you will spend too much time trying to find the building.

New Kowloon Guest house:

You can get a room for 200 HK, clean, with a tv and shared toilet. Very safe.

Don't bother listening to anybody who tries to offer you a room near the entrance of Chungking mansion. The majority of hostels/guest houses are dirty and run down. Lots of shady characters![/QUOTE]

Very usefull info. Do you mind sharing the exact address with us? Or maybe a web site?

Thanks

Ct. The girl I met was named Josephine (doubt was her real name).

Talking to her these girls come to HKG for 1 month stays to mae some cash before heading back to Manila (Manila just being an hours fligh away).

They may or may not come back depending on whether they need extra cash and usually come with friends and use some 'agent'. Thus I imagine 'Rosalie' is back in Manila after her visa ran out and may be back.

Fenwicks seems to be a bit hit and miss. I find that the best GFE are not the sexy bitchy looking ones (who know how sexy they look and are very professional about it).

I pick the sweet looking innocent one who are seem to be a bit lost. They don't know the price range yet and are quite happy to stay the whole night at a ST price (because their lodging is usually very packed); so a nights stay in a nice hotel is a real good deal to them.

But finding them in Fenwicks can be a chore as the aggresive professionals get in the way.

I arrived from the mainland yesterday afternoon. My first Sunday adventure in HKG. I had plans to watch a little college football courtesy of Slingbox and a video cable to the big screen. It worked out great, but all I saw of the domestic help was the bee hives in the walk ways on my walk to the mid level escolators. It reminded me of a bee hive, controlled chaos.
I had made plans to catch up with another board member for drinks in Wan Chai, and just had time for a quick pass thru Laguna (saw a lot of really average looking non-pros) before going to The Bridge for a beer.
At about 8:30, we decided to head to Fenwicks first. It was slow, but building rapidly and we wound chatting with a couple of Flips. They said they had only been in town a few days.....(more on this later), enjoyed the conversation and bought them a drink (well acually they order the Tequila shot with a rock and roll. This is priced at two drinks) I nixed the shot, they didn't seem disappointed.
It was too early in the evening to "settle down" so I excused myself and walked past the So. Amer. side of the house, used my limited knowledge of spanish to say hello and was immediately drawn into a conversation with a smokin' hot blonde Columbian bomshell. I was at instant attention with this gal, but tried to get a sense of her personality as well. She said she had only been in town about three days and the reason she left Columbia to come to Hong Kong was "muy complicado". I will admit that the "whoa" light flashed in my head with this little gem and I asked if I could have her number so that I could call her later, since I was with a friend and didn't want to leave him "stranded". She said she would like to give it to me, but her "boss" wouldn't allow it and she could not see me outside of "working". What little bit of hair I have remaining started to get that tingling feeling associated with feelings of impending doom or loss of bodyparts. I wished her a good evening and "bueno suerto" and moved along.
I guess I never stopped to think that most of the girls may not be independent working in the clubs, and the thought of crossing someone with contacts in Columbia and Hong Kong doesn't seem like something that would lead to a long life expectancy.
We spent the night shuttling back and forth between Neptunes's, Fenwick's, and Laguna and I must say that the talent level last night was extraordinary. I love that these gals get all "dolled up" and there any number of spectacular looking ladies, I don't know about performance, but they are fun to look at.
I contacted the first girl I spoke with that evening, because she seemed sweet and was cute and I thought she would make a good sleep/f**k buddy.
We met up back at Fenwick's, and I asked her if she wanted to come back to my room for an evening of fun and frolicking, when the lightning bolt hit me! She said she wasn't sure, that she had only worked as an "entertainer" and didn't really have sex with the gentlemen. After my jaw quit bouncing off the floor, I asked what she meant and she said that she had worked in Singapore for a month, but it was real different and the girls weren't expected to leave with the men. I told her she was going to have a tough time in Hong Kong and she agreed and said she wanted to go back home. She also told me that her "manager" was not going to be pleased because she had turned down three men in the past week and hadn't left with anyone. She gave me her number and said she hoped I would call her and that maybe we could get together for dinner or lunch so that she could "get to know me". All I could think of was that I was in a room full of available, hot women, any number of which had already expressed a willingness to consume my manhood in a myriad of different ways and I pick the one that "doesn't have sex". Talk about not getting laid with hand full of $100's in a *****house. I was truly nonplussed.
The story has a somewhat happy ending in that as I was leaving in a funk, I was stopped by an attractive if somewhat older Thai gal that I had spoken with earlier and was intriguing to me. She had that "I know I am not 21 yrs old, but I can do things they haven't even thought of yet", thing going on. We settled on $600 for 3 hours and off we go. I was very pleased with the outcome, great massage before and after some pretty active physical imtimacy. She actually stayed about 2:45 and it was me that sent her on her way so that I could sleep.
The entire evening was blast, if somewhat baffling. I am still amazed by the level of talent, both quantity and quality I saw last evening. Well done Wan Chai!!
I only discussed pricing with one lady, so I don't know what the going rate would be for one of the first teamers, but I got the feeling customers are harder to come by than a few months ago.
I can't wait to repeat the visit, maybe I will try a mid-week trip to see the difference. I wish there was a little nicer hotel than the Wharney, at the same price point and in the same area.

I heard this was due to close at the end of the year. Can anyone confirm/deny this?

Artful

Scuba,

Thanks for the reply. Your method of operation is same as mine.

Have fun, and I hope Fenwicks is not closing!

CT

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]The best place to get a visa to enter China is to go to Chungking Mansion, second block, elevator A.

China Visa Service

It is on the same floor as the New Kowloon Guest and Apple Guest House. In the corner, there is a small office advertising visas for different countries. 750 HK for a double entry visa (I am Canadian). If you submit your passport before 11:00 am, it will be ready at 1:00 pm the next day. The majority of hostels/guest houses are dirty and run down. Lots of shady characters![/QUOTE]


Please click on
[url]http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/blsjfy/[/url]
1. Cost of double entry visa for Canadians is HK$220. Express service - $150, Rush service (next day) $250. You overpaid by $280.
2. You actually prefer going to Chung King Mansion - the worst dump in the whole of Hong Kong/where all the drug dealers and the dirtiest street walkers congregate/the cheapest, dirtiest hostels/a fire trap etc etc in Kowloon rather than go to the China Resources Building just a short walk across the covered bridge to the Wanchai/Lochart Road Foreigner mongering destination area?? You gotta be kidding!! Even you stated "...The majority of hostels/guest houses are dirty and run down. Lots of shady characters...." Precise map on the website above.
3. You would actually trust anybody at Chung King Mansion? Worse, you would actually hand over your travel documents to "China Visa Service" versus some scrap of paper that they probably gave back to you? Do you know that Chung King Mansion is also the place to get any kind of 'documents' you may need? Wonder how much a genuine Canadian passport would be worth there!!
4. OK, the lines at the visa office has been a bit longer than usual these days - but if you get there before the official opening hours and start to already line up - I'm very sure you can get out of there in less than half an hour. Hours and Address:

7th Floor, Lower Block, China Resources Building,

No.26, Harbor Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong SAR

Office Hours

Monday to Friday (except Hong Kong public holidays,)

9:00-12:00 14:00-17:00

5. The ONLY way I would recommend anybody going thru ANY travel agent or visa service office is IF they can guarantee you SAME DAY service - which Wadman mentioned previously mentioned as being possible - but which I think NOT probable - as these travel agents/visa guys also need to line up the same way that an individual do and are forced to adhere to the same rules and time constraints as is posted on the above Web site.

I've posted the above information time and again - And I apologize to you Ace - but I really think that posts as yours serve a big disservice to all of us. Sorry.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Please click on
[url]http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/blsjfy/[/url]
1. Cost of double entry visa for Canadians is HK$220. Express service - $150, Rush service (next day) $250. You overpaid by $280.
2. You actually prefer going to Chung King Mansion - the worst dump in the whole of Hong Kong/where all the drug dealers and the dirtiest street walkers congregate/the cheapest, dirtiest hostels/a fire trap etc etc in Kowloon rather than go to the China Resources Building just a short walk across the covered bridge to the Wanchai/Lochart Road Foreigner mongering destination area?? You gotta be kidding!! Even you stated "...The majority of hostels/guest houses are dirty and run down. Lots of shady characters...." Precise map on the website above.
3. You would actually trust anybody at Chung King Mansion? Worse, you would actually hand over your travel documents to "China Visa Service" versus some scrap of paper that they probably gave back to you? Do you know that Chung King Mansion is also the place to get any kind of 'documents' you may need? Wonder how much a genuine Canadian passport would be worth there!!
4. OK, the lines at the visa office has been a bit longer than usual these days - but if you get there before the official opening hours and start to already line up - I'm very sure you can get out of there in less than half an hour. Hours and Address:

7th Floor, Lower Block, China Resources Building,

No.26, Harbor Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong SAR

Office Hours

Monday to Friday (except Hong Kong public holidays,)

9:00-12:00 14:00-17:00

5. The ONLY way I would recommend anybody going thru ANY travel agent or visa service office is IF they can guarantee you SAME DAY service - which Wadman mentioned previously mentioned as being possible - but which I think NOT probable - as these travel agents/visa guys also need to line up the same way that an individual do and are forced to adhere to the same rules and time constraints as is posted on the above Web site.

I've posted the above information time and again - And I apologize to you Ace - but I really think that posts as yours serve a big disservice to all of us. Sorry.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Joe, you exaggerate a lot.
Chungking Mansion is far not as dangerous as many people would like it to be in order to get rid of it.
Yes, it used to be a fire trap until they installed sprinklers over 10 years ago.
Yes, it is dirty in public areas and there are long queues at the lifts which puts me off.
But to be fair, there are quite a few places inside that are very clean once you have closed your door behind you. And it is the only place where you can stay in HK for as little as 150 HK$ in a (very small) room with shower. I used to stay there a lot when I first came to HK almost 20 years ago. I am still friend with the owner of the (very clean) guest house where I stayed at that time. Just met him on the street a few days ago.

Can anyone comment if this travel agent, or if any of the ones at the Macau ferry terminal can book a flight to the Philippines and be paid in cash? I, as many of you might also, have a reason not to put that kind of thing on my credit card. And if not these, if you know of one that might? Thanks

Guys -

I have a few Mongolian friends who once worked Maggie's in Beijing, but now they are giving Hong Kong a try. I would guess they want 800 ST and 1000 LT, but I am sure this is negotiatable. I know they sometimes go to Harri's bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile, and in the past they would hang out at Neptune’s, but that was a couple of years ago.

Any recommendations of where they should now go in Hong Kong?

Thanks!

Sammy

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Joe, you exaggerate a lot.
Chungking Mansion is far not as dangerous as many people would like it to be in order to get rid of it.
Yes, it used to be a fire trap until they installed sprinklers over 10 years ago.
Yes, it is dirty in public areas and there are long queues at the lifts which puts me off.
But to be fair, there are quite a few places inside that are very clean once you have closed your door behind you. And it is the only place where you can stay in HK for as little as 150 HK$ in a (very small) room with shower. I used to stay there a lot when I first came to HK almost 20 years ago. I am still friend with the owner of the (very clean) guest house where I stayed at that time. Just met him on the street a few days ago.[/QUOTE]
Howzabout this? Howzabout the FACT that I've consciously avoided going to Chung King mansion and its surround for God knows how long - and would only see it from afar when I happen to pass by there in my car/taxi etc. So that is perhaps why I may have given a post that reads exaggerated.

On the other hand, to me that whole area is nothing but a tourist trap attracting the lowest grade of visitors to HKG, filled with all sorts of nefarious characters and going-ons and thus is of no attraction whatsover to me - and I would imagine most 'regular people' in Hong Kong. They may have "cleaned it up" recently - but I would doubt that anything much could be done as its just too much of a dump.

As you and Ace of spades even points out - rooms are available at as little as $150/day, and the various "curry mess" and hole in the wall restauratns all over that building serves some of the cheapest vittles in Hong Kong; Now, you tell me - what kind of visitors are attracted to such a place?? Never mind the lowest class hookers and the drug dealers there, howzabout all the illegal stayer coolies, the Nigerian scamsters, penniless back-packers etc etc - they're all attracted to the delights of the Chung King like Bees to honey!!

Nahhh.. tiger - I don't think I exaggerate too much after writing this - Chung King mansion IS A DUMP!! Sorry - but that is my opinion and there ain't no way anybody is gonna convince me otherwise.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Manfest]Can anyone comment if this travel agent, or if any of the ones at the Macau ferry terminal can book a flight to the Philippines and be paid in cash? I, as many of you might also, have a reason not to put that kind of thing on my credit card. And if not these, if you know of one that might? Thanks[/QUOTE]

Huh??? MOST travel agents in Hong Kong prefers - and sometimes even insist - on getting paid in cash i/o credit card as the C/C charges eats too much into their slim profit margin. Not sure if these guys at the Macau Ferry pier would even know anything but "Macau" though! but like I said, ANY travel agent in Hong Kong would be pleased to take your cask i/o credit card.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Guys -

I have a few Mongolian friends who once worked Maggie's in Beijing, but now they are giving Hong Kong a try. I would guess they want 800 ST and 1000 LT, but I am sure this is negotiatable. I know they sometimes go to Harri's bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile, and in the past they would hang out at Neptune’s, but that was a couple of years ago.

Any recommendations of where they should now go in Hong Kong?

Thanks!

Sammy[/QUOTE]

I'd say that these english speaking gals would have most luck trying out Lan Kwai Fong where the 'bigger hitters' go to. It may be "less pickings" at LKF as most - not all - go to LKF to party and/or try to do freebie pick-ups etc, but these Mongolians SHOULD stand out and be able to convert those guys hitting on them into "paying" customers.

Neptunes and the surrounding lockhart road/wanchai area is way over-saturated with the Phillipinos, Thai, Viets, Colombians etc etc and they are not gonna be able to 'play' their sort of uniqueness advantageously, and worse, they may fall "prey" to these pimps who basically 'control' the area. This area though, DOES attract all the "English Speaking Only" mongers/the focal point for most foreign mongers.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Manfest]Can anyone comment if this travel agent, or if any of the ones at the Macau ferry terminal can book a flight to the Philippines and be paid in cash? I, as many of you might also, have a reason not to put that kind of thing on my credit card. And if not these, if you know of one that might? Thanks[/QUOTE]Manfest,

Try wing on travel one of the largest in HK with many branch all over Hk and Kowloon ,you can also get package with 3 night hotel and round trip fare cheap ,most agent at macau ferry terminal only sell hotel and sauna package only not full service .

Fast eddie 48

Hi friends, I'll be in HK this weekend. Maybe I'll bump into them there. Would be a kind of joke. Do Mongolians taste better in HK? Should I try? :-)


[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]I'd say that these english speaking gals would have most luck trying out Lan Kwai Fong where the 'bigger hitters' go to. It may be "less pickings" at LKF as most - not all - go to LKF to party and/or try to do freebie pick-ups etc, but these Mongolians SHOULD stand out and be able to convert those guys hitting on them into "paying" customers.

Neptunes and the surrounding lockhart road/wanchai area is way over-saturated with the Phillipinos, Thai, Viets, Colombians etc etc and they are not gonna be able to 'play' their sort of uniqueness advantageously, and worse, they may fall "prey" to these pimps who basically 'control' the area. This area though, DOES attract all the "English Speaking Only" mongers/the focal point for most foreign mongers.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Michi]Jack,

think what you are doing! Is she a Filipina? Then you are in trouble for the research. Thse girls have the famous PGN=philippine girls network. You talk to one - everyone knows.

So you will be stuck with 141 or YS places ...... being not so bad as well actually.
Have a good time and all the best.

Mike[/QUOTE]I have just returned from a few weeks in and around HK.- trades shows and Canton Fair, etc. I will put together my reports in the next few days, but I can confirm that the PGN is very alive and well. After meeting with a fun Filipina, the next night when I tried to deal her mates, they just smiled and said "Sorry, but my freind likes you" when I attempted to take them home instead. It was actually pretty funny.

Before I forget, there is also an amazingly hot girl I met from Columbia at Neptunes 2. Her name is Andrea, and she is the hot little blonde dancer there last week.- if you saw her on the dance floor, you know the one. I rate her a 8/10. Longer reports to follow for HK, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Taipei, Taichung, and Shenzhen.

@Beijing Fox

I will go to HK this Saturday for 3 days. Do you like to meetup somewhere?

I did not book a hotel yet. where do you stay?

I was able to secure a room and an excuse to stay in Hong Kong tonight, so I am going to enjoy the treats once again. I plan on catching up with one of the local posters, so if anyone wants to join in come along!

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]...Howzabout the FACT that I've consciously avoided going to Chung King mansion and its surround for God knows how long - and would only see it from afar when I happen to pass by there in my car/taxi etc....[/QUOTE]I dont't want to go too much further with this issue, but what you say there sounds a bit like a cut and dried opinion. At least is this the material prejustices are made of.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]I dont't want to go too much further with this issue, but what you say there sounds a bit like a cut and dried opinion. At least is this the material prejustices are made of.[/QUOTE]
Hey tige - you're right.

I started my "adult days" in the 60's and was always going to the old Bayside Nightclub at Chung King Mansion. In those days, the Bayside was one of the best rendezvous in Kowloon and thus I had nothing but good memories of the place.

Through the years though, this whole building has deteriorated to really become quite THE eye-sore of Tsimshatsui. Memories of wonderful Halcyon days of MY youth rudely awakened by the dark reality of what this place has become.

Thus my cut and dried opinion of this dump these days.

SEAJ

Hi guys,

Heading to HK next week, I have read about the main pro scene, thanks for all your reports. Now I am after some more general info. Is there some kind chap who can just give me some info on the following.

I am staying on HK island. Want to try my luck with the local girls who are happy to have some fun with a English guy.

Can anyone recommend some good bars, clubs, strip bars. That I should definately visit.

I know there will be info in the forum somewhere, but I'm too lazy to go through it all.

Any info most welcome

M

Sorry, I had to cancel my trip last night. Another time then.


[QUOTE=Blue Magic]@Beijing Fox

I will go to HK this Saturday for 3 days. Do you like to meetup somewhere?

I did not book a hotel yet. where do you stay?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manatus]Hi guys,

Heading to HK next week, I have read about the main pro scene, thanks for all your reports. Now I am after some more general info. Is there some kind chap who can just give me some info on the following.

I am staying on HK island. Want to try my luck with the local girls who are happy to have some fun with a English guy.

Can anyone recommend some good bars, clubs, strip bars. That I should definately visit.

I know there will be info in the forum somewhere, but I'm too lazy to go through it all.

Any info most welcome

M[/QUOTE]My dear friend, being lazy just doesn't cut it, there is a ton of information in the forum and if you have the time to read them all. You are well on your way to finding that hot one. Just RTFF!

As the economic reality is hitting all sections of the world, just wanted to know what is the Wanchai scene doing and how is the supply to demand going, will be back in HK in a few weeks and always seem to finish the nights activities at Neptunes or Fenwicks. And also what is the going rate for LT doing. Dont want to spoil the market rate.

Thanks,

Wizard

[QUOTE=Manatus]Hi guys,

Can anyone recommend some good bars, clubs, strip bars. That I should definately visit.

I know there will be info in the forum somewhere, but I'm too lazy to go through it all.

M[/QUOTE]

Hahahah!!! This is GREAT. It really takes the cake for being one of the most brazen - and clueless - posts I've seen on ISG!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Manatus]Hi guys,

Heading to HK next week, I have read about the main pro scene, thanks for all your reports. Now I am after some more general info. Is there some kind chap who can just give me some info on the following.

I am staying on HK island. Want to try my luck with the local girls who are happy to have some fun with a English guy.

Can anyone recommend some good bars, clubs, strip bars. That I should definately visit.

I know there will be info in the forum somewhere, but I'm too lazy to go through it all.

Any info most welcome

M[/QUOTE]Manatus,

If you are too damn LAZY to read the forum then you are probably too LAZY to go out and hunt also.

I recommend you to just stay in your hotel room, call for room service, or give yourself a HJ.

Fast eddie 48

Yeah Manatus. Theres some GREAT Bars. Some really hot and happening places. But you know what. I'm way way way tooo lazy to even tell yu where they are. Plonker!

Lat night was crazy in Wanchai! Met up with another monger for some fun, and after some good fajitas at Sticky Fingers we were off to sample the goods!
Tried a new place for me New Maktai, and it was DOA, about 6 girls and fewer mongers, oh well.
Then we went to Laguna about 9 pm and it was going pretty good, (as an aside I was in Laguna about 4:30 in the afternoon and was suprised to be the only punter and only 1 girl. I thought this was a hangout for the afternooners crowd), met a really cute girl named Casey, and in retrospect should have tapped that and called it a night. It was early and didn't want to say "wished I would have waited". I really need to remember when the girls order a drink it is never "a" drink, the order that Tequila/Rock and Roll which is really two drinks, and double the price. I had to recycle the beer and when I came back someone had moved in on me. I thought that was bad manners seeing that I had just bought her a drink, but maybe I wasn't clear on my intentions....oh well. Off to Neptunes' and saw a couple of striking ladies, and was REALLY interested, but she was hooked up with someone else. I didn't think he was going to close the deal, but at the last minute off they went and all I got was a wink as she looked back.....next time.
Fenwicks was off the hook last night, I don't know where all the guys came from, but maybe being Thursday and the Rugby match coming up had something to do with it. We saw a bachelor party and started to warn him, but figured I screwed up a few times, why not let someone else enjoy "sex prision!"
Wandered back and forth, asked a couple of girls "how much" got the 1500 ST answer and they didn't appreciate my laughter at that figure.
I will say this, the number and quality of the talent the last two times I have been in Fenwick's is impressive. There are some strikingly attractive young ladies visiting that establishment!
It was getting late when I spied this well endowed Thai and settled on a resonable price. She wanted a LT, but I needed to sleep, so off to the Wharney we go.
The session was perfunctory, she had a smokin body, large natural tits for a Thai, but not even close to GFE. Started right in with BBBJ, and then went for the cover in about 20 mins. I did get to pound away a little and she asked it I enjoyed it, but ten minutes after it was done, she was out the door.
That is why I should have tried the gal in Laguna, she had a great personality and I suspect would have been more in line with a GFE. Oh well live and learn!
The thing I find amusing, as I commented to my wingman last night , is I have yet to see a true "fugly" in these places. I mean it is all degrees of "hotness". I suspect that in a different setting almost all of the girls would get a lot of attention, but in this setting , it is almost like you are looking for some small flaw, so that you can move to another one. In the end it is good to be the King!
I would love to find some place that has some earlier action, as I usually have the afternoon free when I am in town. I guess that is what makes the search so much fun!

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I would love to find some place that has some earlier action, as I usually have the afternoon free when I am in town. I guess that is what makes the search so much fun![/QUOTE]Go to Laguna or New Makati on a sunday afternoon.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Try wing on travel one of the largest in HK with many branch all over Hk and Kowloon ,you can also get package with 3 night hotel and round trip fare cheap....
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Is this [url=http://www.wingontravel.com/eng/3ticEng/e_airfare_search.asp]the one[/url] you mean?
They don't have the package prices in the web site, do you have a ballpark price?
I noticed, that they offer return tickets to Manilla for 1500 to 15000 HK$

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Is this [url=http://www.wingontravel.com/eng/3ticEng/e_airfare_search.asp]the one[/url] you mean?

They don't have the package prices in the web site, do you have a ballpark price?
I noticed, that they offer return tickets to Manilla for 1500 to 15000 HK$[/QUOTE]Daddy dan,

Yes that the one why don't you send your request by email, are you in Hong Kong right now just drop by.

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Manatus]Hi guys,

Heading to HK next week, I have read about the main pro scene, thanks for all your reports. Now I am after some more general info. Is there some kind chap who can just give me some info on the following.

I am staying on HK island. Want to try my luck with the local girls who are happy to have some fun with a English guy.

Can anyone recommend some good bars, clubs, strip bars. That I should definately visit.

I know there will be info in the forum somewhere, but I'm too lazy to go through it all.

Any info most welcome

M[/QUOTE]
Actually, Hong Kong has a new special service for foreign visitors that has not yet received much publicity.

Here it is: when you arrive at the airport, follow the crowd to the immigration counters. Once you reach the counter, tell the immigration officer and let them know that you're from England, that the purpose of your visit is "Sex Tourism" and that you're interested in the "Sexy Girl Special."

Be sure to be specific as to the type of girl you're looking for, both nationality (local HK Chinese, Mainland Chinese, Filipina, Thai, Viet, Russian, Latin American) and body type (big tits, long legs, long hair, short/tall, etc.). Also, be sure to specify what services you want (BBBJ, doggie-style, anal, etc.), whether you want one girl or two, and emphasize that you're willing to pay 1,000 HK dollars or more for top quality. Inform them as to where you want to meet the girl/girls (141, 161, the Wanchai bar scene, a Filipina nanny who's only available for sex on Sundays, etc.). Please be as specific as possible, as this will assist the immigration officer and his/her colleagues in selecting the girl/girls that most closely meet your needs.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised as to how fast and efficient this service can be. If you're really lucky, the immigration official will summon his/her superiors to escort you to a nearby waiting room to discuss the various girls available.

I look forward to reading a post from you in the very near future on the results of your visit. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Actually, Hong Kong has a new special service for foreign visitors that has not yet received much publicity.

Here it is: when you arrive at the airport, follow the crowd to the immigration counters. Once you reach the counter, tell the immigration officer and let them know that you're from England, that the purpose of your visit is "Sex Tourism" and that you're interested in the "Sexy Girl Special."

Be sure to be specific as to the type of girl you're looking for, both nationality (local HK Chinese, Mainland Chinese, Filipina, Thai, Viet, Russian, Latin American) and body type (big tits, long legs, long hair, short/tall, etc.). Also, be sure to specify what services you want (BBBJ, doggie-style, anal, etc.), whether you want one girl or two, and emphasize that you're willing to pay 1,000 HK dollars or more for top quality. Inform them as to where you want to meet the girl/girls (141, 161, the Wanchai bar scene, a Filipina nanny who's only available for sex on Sundays, etc.). Please be as specific as possible, as this will assist the immigration officer and his/her colleagues in selecting the girl/girls that most closely meet your needs.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised as to how fast and efficient this service can be. If you're really lucky, the immigration official will summon his/her superiors to escort you to a nearby waiting room to discuss the various girls available.

I look forward to reading a post from you in the very near future on the results of your visit. Good luck![/QUOTE]Why not directly find a female immigration officer and ask her if she is available for service. Saves time.

Thanks guys, remind me to give you some advise when your next in Prague.

Nice to see there are still helpful guys on the ISG forum

Having spent most of my life in LA and several years in China and Italy, now residing in Kunming, I visited Hong Kong for some medical consultations and to change my visa. I stayed for three nights in a guest house in Kowloon and had quite a bit of time to walk the streets and sample the ladies of Kowloon. I managed to find some of those websites for 141 ladies and visited 37 Dundas once. From the point of view of a short time visitor, I find HK a just incredible and inexpensive place to enjoy sexual activity with women. You can spend an entire night with a 141 girl in a clean room for less than the cost of a hotel room by yourself. The 37 Dundas place allows you to have two girls for what you would pay for one in a similar place in Beijing. You guys have it great.

[QUOTE=Manatus]Thanks guys, remind me to give you some advise when your next in Prague.

Nice to see there are still helpful guys on the ISG forum[/QUOTE]



Hey Manatus, do not take it personal. I come to HK twice per year and last year I asked for some tips. They beat me up pretty bad. These HK posters expect you to read the forum and then ask specific questions. These HK posters do not want to be travel guides because so many persons such as yourself come on this site and ask general questions.

You might tell the board where you are staying, how long you are staying, what type of girls are you looking for(be it Cantonese, Mandarin, filipinas) and you might get a positive response

I have never been hunting on Hong Kong Island but I know that Fenwick's, New Makati and Laguna would be starters for me. I would go over to Lan Kwai Fong in Central HK as well.

Since I stay in Kowloon I have learned by reading the forum that Hari's in the Holiday Inn and Sticky Fingers on Mody Road would be places to visit.
I know there is action on Dundee Road in the Mong Kok area. And there is the 141 site that has several places to go and some very attractive women on the hotel reservations.

Have never been to Prague but I know that many Czech women are beautiful.

hi guys,

this will be my first post, and i'm just going to introduce myself after reading the forum (mostly the asia ones) and maybe even contribute some. firstly, i was born in hong kong but raised overseas. i return to hong kong every so often, its actually quite boring for me, never had anything to do in hk. but then, i turned 18 last year. and what was i going to do? even from a young age i had always known hong kong to be famous for the working ladies and the red light districts.

so, on to my experiences. the last time i went back to hk was last year during christmas time. what i was interested was the 141, i can read chinese so i had gone to some chinese language forums to talk to people about that, but then i realized when i actually had the opportunity to go that i didn't have the guts to go through with at at all. i was also wary of the sauna's as i knew that prostitution is illegal in hk so i believed all sauna's were legitimate. i was taken on tours to tsim sha tsui, but i lived the closest to wan chai. one day i just happened to walk down lockhart rd and see all these signs. what were they? i thought they were strip clubs, so one night, after going to one of the regular bars on lockhart, sitting there and watching a football match (arsenal, urgh), i thought, fuck it, lets go. that's where my adventure of foolishness and awkwardness begins.

firstly, i am not very tolerant of alcohol and having been pestered by the beer girl to order some chi and also having a few beers myself i think (not my drink), i was a little bit woozy. i walked over to one of the places that i was so interested in, one of the ones at the end of the street closest to the mtr exit (can't for my life remember the name, i will try and find it) and said to the old asian lady out the front "i can go in right?" she was all "oh yeah, yeah". i walked in, pushing through the red drapes, expecting a biggish club full of guys and hot girls and what i considered to be debauchery as a child. well, it wasn't. i was the only one in there (i don't remember what day it was, it was a weekday, but it was about 10pm), surrounded by a bunch of thai girls.

i was mildly shocked, 1. because i had actually gone in, 2. the place wasn't at all what i thought it would be like, 3. the girls were not as beautiful as i thought they would be. i went and sat down at the bar (there were sofas opposite it, but i thought it would look most casual if i ordered a drink. also they may have been leading me there), and ordered a drink. instantly 2 girls, one more attractive than the other, hit me up and asked for drinks. i was like "yeah alright", the old lady at the bar showed me the price of the drinks. $200?!?! each?!?!? i was too nervous to care then, i just wanted to look like i wasn't nervous. then they asked me to buy a drink for their friends as well, i answered yeah just a bit too quickly, without even seeing her (i'm pretty sure i didn't end up seeing her at all).

in a state of nervous and drunken confusion (i am quite shy with strangers, trying to work on it), i started talking to the two girls with me while two others were dancing on the bar in just their underwear (was not that interesting...), we talked about a lot of stuff, including my home country (i'm not so comfortable speaking cantonese, although i can. it's like an edison complex), and i had an embarassing episode where at one point they thought i was **** when i told them my birthday. i showed them my passport out of nerves i guess, and that was it. another girl came up to me at one point and just grabbed my crotch. i was not ready to have any reaction then, also i was wearing tight jeans, it was slightly awkward as she felt around trying to find something.

i tried to convince the hotter one to take me out for a "good time" and they told me it was going to be something ridiculous like 2000, and even then sex was not guaranteed or something. good for me, i had no money left. i declined (they didn't want me anyway, they spoke in cantonese which i pretended not to understand. i'm good looking but as i understand these girls have something against younger guys, especially as young as i am) and prepared to pay the bill. somehow they had managed to get me to pay for another drink for each of them, and i ended up paying over 1 grand without having had any action at all, barely felt them up because i was so nervous, one of them was trying to get me to touch them though, holding my hand and moving it around their body. it was the less hot one...

so i paid the fee, and stumbled out of the bar dazed and confused and feeling like i'd been ripped off (which i now know i had). i contemplated going to another place but as i did not have much money left and afraid of a similar experience, i quickly took the mtr back to where i was living.

wow. as i was writing that i felt dumber and dumber, especially after reading the forum extensively. that was the first and only time i have made any contact with the adult industry, i know that experiences can be quite different now, but i think i learned a lesson and i will be less nervous next time i go, which i have no idea when it will be. hope you guys had a good laugh from that, i look back at it today and feel it was probably the most awkward night of my life (not even losing my virginity was that nerve-wracking).

so i just need to know something from my experience. what did i do wrong? well i know what i did wrong, i paid them, but what in particular that i did made them try to rip me off like that? how do people generally behave in the strip bars to get what they want? i have read about experiences you guys have had, but i'd like some tips, as i would like to take it slow and graduate from say easiest and least awkward (i.e. bar and clubbing scene) to the more awkward and difficult (141 and sauna massage). i hope that was an adequate report, showing how newcomers can screw things up horribly.

happy hunting guys.

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Yunis,

Welcome to the forum, and congrats on your first (albeit not so successful) attempt at getting some action in HK.

Don't feel bad; anyone who goes into those bars gets fleeced. In actuality, they are mostly for tourists or businessmen with expense accounts who can use the receipts that say "Bar and Cafe" to get reimbursed.

If you want some real action in Wan Chai, the best places are the bars where the freelancers work (Makati, Laguna, Fenwicks, Neptune, etc). They are regular bars, the ladies drinks are (slightly) less expensive, and they won't push too much. Problems being it might be difficult to find one you like and convince her to go with you back to your place or (if you are concerned about security) to a short-time hotel in Wan Chai.

I think for you, the best place for you to start out would be 37 Dundas. It's safe, easy to get to, and there's no pressure. Also, it's cheap! $490 for the girl and the room. A lot less embarrassing than the Wanch bars for the newcomer.

But don't worry about being new. I remember my first time P4P, somewhere in the Middle East, paying way too much and feeling ripped off. It all gets better from there on out.

Good luck! If you get a membership, send me a PM; we'll grab a beer and I'll show you around Wan Chai.

~Crazy Ami

Yunis,

As per Ami's post, try the bars in Wan Chai he mentioned, they're great. Best time to go is after 9-10pm, not much will be happenig before that. Doesn't matter if it's week day, or weekend. Go in, grab a beer, relax, and observe. I'm new to Hong Kong, and I learned a lot just by doing that.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Yunis2141]What did I do wrong? Well I know what I did wrong, I paid them, but what in particular that I did made them try to rip me off like that? How do people generally behave in the strip bars to get what they want? I have read about experiences you guys have had, but I'd like some tips, as I would like to take it slow and graduate from say easiest and least awkward (i.e. bar and clubbing scene) to the more awkward and difficult (141 and sauna massage).[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
Your biggest mistake was to walk into a strip bar in Wanchai. These bars are programmed to rip off every guy the girls can pull in off the street. The locals know about this scam and stay away from those places, but they’ve been around for a long time to fleece tourists and sailors on a little r&r, who are all looking for Suzie Wong in world famous Hong Kong. This is why their first question is always “where you from”? Your experience was typical. If you complain about the bill you will quickly find yourself in the smiling company of a few gang members who will be more than glad to escort you to the nearest ATM machine.

Prostitution IS allowed in Hong Kong, it’s just that you have to follow certain rules – and you don’t have to pay 2000 for it. I was a little nervous too with my first 141 girl, but she turned out to be friendly and a whole lotta fun. The smart 141 girls know how important repeat business is and so they build up a base of clients by trying to give them a good experience each time. Some guys like it with a different girl each time but for me this is too hit and miss. Find a few you like and visit them regularly until you have worked your way into their hearts. Then they will do anything for you. This won’t be easy for you since you only visit Hong Kong once in a while.

QH

Guys, I have RTFF because I think I remember someone talking about this before, but I can't seem to find it.

Does anyone know a decent love hotel where I can take a freebie, i.e. not a total shit hole like Villa Victoria or Ming Court? I want to treat my freebie a little nicer than a P4P girl, and more importantly I don't want to drive her away with any place too skeevy.

Kowloon preferred. These freebies would probably happen in the mornings.

Thanks guys!
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

Yunis 2141

Oh the memories! Been there. Done that so like everyone on this site its live and learn. I, ll bet your experience is the same for all in this forum one way or another. Your skills will become more refined with time. Scam detecting radar also improves. My first visit to Wanchai was a lot of expensive fun. Stayed at Horney Warney on brother in laws advice and did not make it past the bar next door before being pulled in because 'I velly hansome man". Oh. The flattery for your humble over the hill, over weight servant. A few drinks later and I was walking back to the Warney with a beautiful 20yo flippa who did give me a great night for more money than I care to mention. Over the years I discovered the 141 system, Dundas, Yellow signs, K pressure and saunas. All have there place and market demographics. Macau is usually on my must do list these days and try the helecopter to or from just once in your life. Try and pick a reasonably clear day.

Go forth and conquor my friend and worry not!

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Guys, I have RTFF because I think I remember someone talking about this before, but I can't seem to find it.

Does anyone know a decent love hotel where I can take a freebie, i.e. not a total shit hole like Villa Victoria or Ming Court? I want to treat my freebie a little nicer than a P4P girl, and more importantly I don't want to drive her away with any place too skeevy.

Kowloon preferred. These freebies would probably happen in the mornings.

Thanks guys!
Have fun and stay safe,

Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE]Johnny,

There are a few nice motels in Mirador Bld in Nathan rd in Tsim sha tsui.

I think name are Deluxe Garden and Ocean place on 10th and 13th fl.

Very nice rooms but small with bathroom and frig, tv.

The cost ranges from 240 to 480 hkd for a day.

I'm not sure they rent by the hour.

There are also signs in the Bld.

No prositution is allow, so you need to book a room for 2 people .

There are many love hotels in Kimberely rd and Mongkok area, but most are a shithole that the pros use.

Fast eddie 48

Last Thursday my friend and I ventured to Wan Chai, and did the usual Laguna-Neptun-Fenwicks tour, checking out talent. Boy, my head was spinnig, so many girls, and most of them stunning. It's difficult to make a choice! I ended up taking down phone numbers from several girls.

Contacted one of the girls on Monday, agreed on the price, met her at Fenwicks and off we went to my place. Long story short. The experience was rather disappointing. Paid 700 ST, which is not bad, or so I think.

How do I pick a good one next time? What do you guys pay attention to?

Cheers

I’ll be in HK next month and don’t want to drive up the prices for the locals. Therefore, could you give me some info on ST rates? Is payment in advance always expected?

I’ll be staying the Renaissance Kowloon Hotel. Is this a GF hotel? Any action in the immediatel area?

Thanks in advance.

Jon

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Last Thursday my friend and I ventured to Wan Chai, and did the usual Laguna-Neptun-Fenwicks tour, checking out talent. Boy, my head was spinnig, so many girls, and most of them stunning. It's difficult to make a choice! I ended up taking down phone numbers from several girls.

Contacted one of the girls on Monday, agreed on the price, met her at Fenwicks and off we went to my place. Long story short. The experience was rather disappointing. Paid 700 ST, which is not bad, or so I think.

How do I pick a good one next time? What do you guys pay attention to?

Cheers[/QUOTE]

The conversation and how you both get on I like to get there fairly early about 10 pm and spend some time talking to them, if you pick one or get picked up by one walk around and see if she follows you if yes then she WANTS to be with you and will perform well, then a little bit later ask what she will and wont do and agree on a price.

To Jon Jones, I never pay in advance always in the morning.... always...

Wizard

[QUOTE=Wizard561]The conversation and how you both get on I like to get there fairly early about 10 pm and spend some time talking to them, if you pick one or get picked up by one walk around and see if she follows you if yes then she WANTS to be with you and will perform well, then a little bit later ask what she will and wont do and agree on a price.

To Jon Jones, I never pay in advance always in the morning.... always...

Wizard[/QUOTE]

Excellent advice. It may be a business transaction, but business between friends is much more enjoyable. If the girls take the time to get to know you a little and like you, the rewards can be considerable.

Wizard561 and Thor93 - thanks.

In this particular case, I think the lack of experience on her part also played a role. She was very shy, unlike other girls I had met. Oh well, there is always tomorrow :)

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jon Jones]I’ll be in HK next month and don’t want to drive up the prices for the locals. Therefore, could you give me some info on ST rates? Is payment in advance always expected?

I’ll be staying the Renaissance Kowloon Hotel. Is this a GF hotel? Any action in the immediatel area?

Thanks in advance.

Jon[/QUOTE]

There are lots of options in Hong Kong. If you are looking to pick up freelancers on the Kowloon side, Sticky Fingers is not too far from the Renaissance. You just need to get across the road and over by the Shangri La and then it is the next street over. There are always some girls hanging out in there and the band is usually pretty good. Another option is the bar in the Holiday Inn on Nathan Road. I am not really thrilled though about either place compared to what is available over in Wan Chai. That is where the real action for freelancers is. Read the posts here on Wan Chai and you will quickly find all you need to know.

If you use the subway, it is very easy and cheap to get over to Wan Chai from the Renaissance. The only hassle is coming back is probably going to have to be by taxi since the subway stops running around midnight.

I have to refresh myself on the going rate as I am headed up to Hong Kong myself tomorrow and plan on making a foray over to Fenwicks or Laguna in Wan Chai.

I have been in HK 1 year now and I haven't had a free lancer since the first month from my arrival. It's just that it seemed a lot easier and convenient to build a little ack book with go go girl names and then put them on a roster. This seemed perfect until a couple of weeks back I met a girl in Neptune called Beem (I think) from Bangkok. She was absolutely stunning: long, silky hair, great legs, great body and incredible smile. I tried to approach her but she was quick to brush me off within a couple of minutes saying that she had a boyfriend.complete shock! First time that this happened. Also all of her friends around her were picking up guys no problem. Saw her again another time but same story. If she has a boyfriend why does she cloud the ocean and go to Neptune? Anyone come across this before? Possible that she's playing hard to get?

Anyway, I tried to make up for it with my go-gos but alas, this has kind of stuck in my mind.

Hey fellas,

Was in town last weekend for the rugby and had two great nights in Wan Chai. Started at Neptune on Friday night. I had read so much about this place and it was all true! Met a Filipino freelancer called Evenlyn. Long black hair, great ass in jeans, etc. Took her back to my room after drinking a lot of booze with her as we bar hopped for a few hours. Settled on 800HK, but gave her a generous tip as it was a great experience. After drinking, she went off in the room. Wet before I even got my fingers or mouth near that sweet pussy. BBBJ, fingers in her ass, you name it, she was up for everything. We went twice in the night and again before she left at 8am in the morning, allowing me to sleep in with a smile. She told me she was 35yrs old (she looks 25) and has three kids! Couldn't believe it from her figure. Anyway, she's always at Neptune as she loves to dance.

Next night, went to Fenwicks and ordered two filipino's for the night. They weren't as wild and pretty business like. In truth, I should have stayed with Evenlyn again, but I was greedy. Looking forward to coming back to HK soon, as WC is full of the hottest 20 yr old filipino freelancers looking for action.

[QUOTE=Yearoneo]I have been in HK 1 year now and I haven't had a free lancer since the first month from my arrival. It's just that it seemed a lot easier and convenient to build a little ack book with go go girl names and then put them on a roster. This seemed perfect until a couple of weeks back I met a girl in Neptune called Beem (I think) from Bangkok. She was absolutely stunning: long, silky hair, great legs, great body and incredible smile. I tried to approach her but she was quick to brush me off within a couple of minutes saying that she had a boyfriend.complete shock! First time that this happened. Also all of her friends around her were picking up guys no problem. Saw her again another time but same story. If she has a boyfriend why does she cloud the ocean and go to Neptune? Anyone come across this before? Possible that she's playing hard to get?

Anyway, I tried to make up for it with my go-gos but alas, this has kind of stuck in my mind.[/QUOTE]

Maybe being a stunenr she is selective as she can afford that.
Maybe she wants to pick up (or be picked up) by someone who...does not require much efforts and she can sense that...

[QUOTE=Yearoneo]I have been in HK 1 year now and I haven't had a free lancer since the first month from my arrival. It's just that it seemed a lot easier and convenient to build a little ack book with go go girl names and then put them on a roster. This seemed perfect until a couple of weeks back I met a girl in Neptune called Beem (I think) from Bangkok. She was absolutely stunning: long, silky hair, great legs, great body and incredible smile. I tried to approach her but she was quick to brush me off within a couple of minutes saying that she had a boyfriend.complete shock! First time that this happened. Also all of her friends around her were picking up guys no problem. Saw her again another time but same story. If she has a boyfriend why does she cloud the ocean and go to Neptune? Anyone come across this before? Possible that she's playing hard to get?

Anyway, I tried to make up for it with my go-gos but alas, this has kind of stuck in my mind.[/QUOTE]I would not take it personally, it does happen. The girl hooks up with someone, a "boyfriend", who decides to support her while she is in HK. These guys give them an allowance so that they don't have to work. But then on the nights when he is unavailable, they get board so go hang out with their friends in Neptune or Laguna.

Also, especially on Saturdays and Sundays, the domestic helpers are out in force. 1) Most are just out for a good time, hang with their friends and would love to meet a nice guy. 2) Many have regular off-day boyfriends. 3) A few want to augment their HK$3,600 monthly salaries by pulling a punter. Hunting the good time girls is a great way to kill an afternoon. If you run into one with a boyfriend you will get the same reaction, and you might be as surprised, as with your Thai lady. To be honest, I don't know how the third type, the working girls, make any money on Saturday or Sunday afternoons.

Fortunately for the rest of us, when you run into one with a boyfriend in Wanchai there is always another beauty, "plan B", standing next to her.

Not all girls who hang out in Laguna/Neptune/Fenwicks are WG. I have met one who wasn't, my friend also did. They go there to have fun, some of them hope to meet a guy but not for one night stand.

I have recently spoken to few local Hong Kong girls, who actually go to WC bars for fun only. The girl I recently met goes with her friends to "Dask to Dawn", which is one of the mongering spots. They go there just to have fun, hoping to meet a decent gweilo. Decent gweilo in Hong Kong. Isn't that an oxymoron?

[QUOTE=Yearoneo]I have been in HK 1 year now and I haven't had a free lancer since the first month from my arrival. It's just that it seemed a lot easier and convenient to build a little ack book with go go girl names and then put them on a roster. This seemed perfect until a couple of weeks back I met a girl in Neptune called Beem (I think) from Bangkok. She was absolutely stunning: long, silky hair, great legs, great body and incredible smile. I tried to approach her but she was quick to brush me off within a couple of minutes saying that she had a boyfriend.complete shock! First time that this happened. Also all of her friends around her were picking up guys no problem. Saw her again another time but same story. If she has a boyfriend why does she cloud the ocean and go to Neptune? Anyone come across this before? Possible that she's playing hard to get?

Anyway, I tried to make up for it with my go-gos but alas, this has kind of stuck in my mind.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Loveasia77] {snip} ... The girl I recently met goes with her friends to "Dask to Dawn", which is one of the mongering spots. They go there just to have fun, hoping to meet a decent gweilo. Decent gweilo in Hong Kong. Isn't that an oxymoron?[/QUOTE]

And what would a decent gweilo in Hong Kong be doing in a Wan Chai bar? :)

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Apac Man]And what would a decent gweilo in Hong Kong be doing in a Wan Chai bar? :)

APAC Man[/QUOTE]Sightseeing?

Heh chaps,

Where can a dirty git get a good honest soapy massage in HK? Very popular in lots of SE asia countries but don't seem to prevalent here but gad I love feeling of it.

Any ideas?

[QUOTE=Brown Rail] ... The girl hooks up with someone, a "boyfriend", who decides to support her while she is in HK. These guys give them an allowance so that they don't have to work ... [/QUOTE]Out of curiosity - how much do they receive from a "boyfriend" on monthly basis?

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Out of curiosity - how much do they receive from a "boyfriend" on monthly basis?[/QUOTE]I don't know. I did not ask, and I assume the girls would not admit it. There is one girl I met early one morning in Bridge. She was a Domestic Helper just out for a good time. We had fun and joked, but I did not have time to see it through. I have since seen her a few times and now she seems to have moved from looking for a good time to professional. In fact I am not sure if she is a helper any more. Last time I saw her I was waiting for my GF (a helper on her off-day). She asked me about my GF and tellingly, "did I give her money". I realized that I do slip my GF some money now and them. When a too big phone bill comes in, when dad is sick, for a special gift. And I could see the wheels in this girls head turning. She was thinking would she be better off with a BF, and regular income, or looking for Punters a few times a week. Am sure she would make more working than she would get from me as a "BF", but.

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Not all girls who hang out in Laguna/Neptune/Fenwicks are WG. I have met one who wasn't, my friend also did. They go there to have fun, some of them hope to meet a guy but not for one night stand.

I have recently spoken to few local Hong Kong girls, who actually go to WC bars for fun only. The girl I recently met goes with her friends to "Dask to Dawn", which is one of the mongering spots. They go there just to have fun, hoping to meet a decent gweilo. Decent gweilo in Hong Kong. Isn't that an oxymoron?[/QUOTE]Actually there are lots who are not working. If you go to Laguna, Boracay, Neptune or Makati on any Saturday or Sunday days and evenings probably 2/3s of the girls are not working. (Fenwicks will be pretty empty.) They are mostly domestics on their day off. They want a good time with their friends, to meet up with the boy friends and, if lucky, meet a nice guy.

Of the remaining third a minority are working and the rest could go either way. I am leaving out the lesbians, some of whom also go both ways and can be an interesting time.

And yes, on week nights there are lots of bars where many if not most of the girls are not working, but are locals out for a good time. This is true of most of the bars in LKF and the non-girly bars at street level on Lockhart and Jaffee Roads. Lots of these bars offer free drinks for the girls and munchies on Wednesday and Thursday, and get huge crowds. There will also be Western women in the crowd. Most of the guys in these bars are out for a good time with their mates, not looking for P4P. That being said, there are working girls in there too. But generally a bit older and more experienced than the tourist girls in Fenwick and Neptune.

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[QUOTE=Brown Rail]Actually there are lots who are not working. If you go to Laguna, Boracay, Neptune or Makati on any Saturday or Sunday days and evenings probably 2/3s of the girls are not working ... [/QUOTE]Thanks Brown Rail, this is good information.

It seems like having fun in Wan Chai is not only about P4P. I was under different impression, especially after mentioning Wan Chai when talking to my local friends, I immediately get "the look" followed by "what where you doing in Wan Chai"? Nobody seems to have a problem when I mentioned I visited Lan Kwai Fong.

Few of the working girls mentioned to me that on weekends, they dress casual and go to Lan Kwai Fong just to have fun. Always keeping their eyes opened to meet a "nice guy".

[QUOTE=Brown Rail]I don't know. I did not ask, and I assume the girls would not admit it. There is one girl I met early one morning in Bridge. She was a Domestic Helper just out for a good time. We had fun and joked, but I did not have time to see it through. I have since seen her a few times and now she seems to have moved from looking for a good time to professional. In fact I am not sure if she is a helper any more. Last time I saw her I was waiting for my GF (a helper on her off-day). She asked me about my GF and tellingly, "did I give her money". I realized that I do slip my GF some money now and them. When a too big phone bill comes in, when dad is sick, for a special gift. And I could see the wheels in this girls head turning. She was thinking would she be better off with a BF, and regular income, or looking for Punters a few times a week. Am sure she would make more working than she would get from me as a "BF", but.[/QUOTE]You are right. I know a girl who I met in a disco and who was desperately looking for money. A month later she had a job in the airport, not in the game anymore, but I already knew her. So I saw her every now and then (No more money involved). Now she lost her job and is likely to be in the game again. They all need money, must likely for the sick water buffalo at home.

The sad fact is that the " hard " girls see the guys as a job: a sort of walking ATM that spits out money if they push (pull) the correct knobs.

The " soft" girls are just a bit inexperienced but are en route to being "hard" whether they like it or not.

A good tip is to see how many phones they have. Why does anyone need more than one phone? Unless to avoid answering with the wrong name (! )

If you think back about the frequency of these events (sick father / buffalo, hurricane blown down village) you will probably be able to see a pattern.

However they're not bad people, just a little desperate in their attempts to support their alcoholic / lazy / gambler father / brother / husband so go along with the story and as she thinks she has hoodwinked you with her superior interlect she'll probably give you the ride of yr life!

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]You are right. I know a girl who I met in a disco and who was desperately looking for money. A month later she had a job in the airport, not in the game anymore, but I already knew her. So I saw her every now and then (No more money involved). Now she lost her job and is likely to be in the game again. They all need money, must likely for the sick water buffalo at home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brown Rail]Actually there are lots who are not working. If you go to Laguna, Boracay, Neptune or Makati on any Saturday or Sunday days and evenings probably 2/3s of the girls are not working. (Fenwicks will be pretty empty.) They are mostly domestics on their day off. They want a good time with their friends, to meet up with the boy friends and, if lucky, meet a nice guy.

Of the remaining third a minority are working and the rest could go either way. I am leaving out the lesbians, some of whom also go both ways and can be an interesting time.

And yes, on week nights there are lots of bars where many if not most of the girls are not working, but are locals out for a good time. This is true of most of the bars in LKF and the non-girly bars at street level on Lockhart and Jaffee Roads. Lots of these bars offer free drinks for the girls and munchies on Wednesday and Thursday, and get huge crowds. There will also be Western women in the crowd. Most of the guys in these bars are out for a good time with their mates, not looking for P4P. That being said, there are working girls in there too. But generally a bit older and more experienced than the tourist girls in Fenwick and Neptune.[/QUOTE]True! But a lot of DHs have curfew around 8 or 9 depending on when they work, so they tend to clear out around then and the pros tend to move in.

[QUOTE=Qwerty On88]...The sad fact is that the " hard " girls see the guys as a job: a sort of walking ATM that spits out money if they push (pull) the correct knobs...
[/QUOTE]When I was in Pattaya last week, I really thought of printing a t-shirt which says:
Walking ATM on holiday. Service suspended. Please try another Farang nearby.

Was in HK for a trade show, stayed at the Renaissance Harbour View. After dinner with some associates, came back to the room. Many thanks to all who have gone before and provided info here. I tried 1212u.com Kitty, but got no answer on her line, or another of the girls from that site. So, called up 141 and looked for someone who would come to my hotel. Called Carry, and the guy said the cost was 100HK$ extra for "delivery" charge. As this was my last nite, and the basic was 600HK$, wtf. Bring her on!

In about 20 minutes the desk calls up and says I have a visitor. A few minutes later, a knock on the door, and we're off to the races. Immediately starts taking my clothes off, followed by hers, and into the shower. Out of the shower, straight to the bed, where she got down to a BBBJ. According to the site, she was a newbie, and it showed. BJ was so so, kept coming up to wipe her mouth off! Anyway, after a little of this, flipped her over, worked on her tits a little, and went at her mish and finished off. Off to shower again, and she was out of there. Would not repeat or recommend. It was late, I was tired, and didn't feel like taking the time to educate her or argue with her!

Next time in HK, need more time to explore and hit WC bars.

Too funny Tiger 888 and Qwert On88, that is exactly how I feel when I am getting hit up for "lady" drinks. For some reason this is especially so in Fenwicks. Whenever some cutie comes over and after 7 seconds asks me to buy her a drink I think, sometimes out loud, has someone taped a sign on my back saying A T M? I especially don’t like those tequila rock and rolls. It is such a bold faced scam: divide one drink into two glasses then charge for a double "lady’s" drink. Hell, just reach into my pocket. I don’t know why I find this insulting. A few times I even asked the girl if I looked like her ATM. .

Hey Goatboy55, you are right. Most domestic helpers have a curfew and leave between 7:30 and 9. But I have been surprised how many do stay out. Some don’t have a particular time, some organize it to stay out late or all night. I met a few the other night. One lives out, so can do what she wants in the evening. Another works tag-team with another helper, who covers for her when she wants to stay out all night. Then I noticed, in Laguna, quite a few who were dancing non-stop for hours on end. They were not really hunting guys. They were friendly but clearly not working. Turns out there are quite a few that like to do some drugs and stay out all night partying. They roll from Makati to Laguna to Neptune to Bridge to 109 to Makati over about 24 hours. So even after the 9pm curfew, there are still quite a few out.

[QUOTE=Nuevo]Hello Woodman,


I am going to try the 141s at least a couple of times. I am staying at the Evergreen in Jordan, so the Foremost is a short walk from my hotel.


N1[/QUOTE]




Any good reports for the area around this hotel?

I heard there are saunas around this area.

141?

I think Jordan also has KPressure

Here is my first real post. Hope it helps someone as much as I've been helped by this forum. The attached pic is a pharmancy at the corner of Woosung st and Nathan Rd on the Kowloon side. Its mabe a 5 minute walk from the Jordan station of the Hong Kong MTR. As you can see from the pic, vitamin v (small round blue and white sign) and vitamin see are sold there w/o any script, and its right next door to a solid 1 hour place that only charges 390 HKD girl + 100 HKD room. That's right around 65 us. The Viatamin V and C are 4 doses for 360 HKD. V is the 100mg horse pill which can be divided into atleast 4 doses.

Good luck all

Guys

Have a chance to come to HK for a weekend of fun 21. 24 November. Before I book my ticket can anyone let me know if there any events during that time that will mean bars extra busy and prices high e. G. Is the Navy in town or a rugby match on. If so I may delay my trip

Thanks

CT

[QUOTE=Ruff Rider]Here is my first real post. Hope it helps someone as much as I've been helped by this forum. The attached pic is a pharmancy at the corner of Woosung st and Nathan Rd on the Kowloon side. Its mabe a 5 minute walk from the Jordan station of the Hong Kong MTR. As you can see from the pic, vitamin v (small round blue and white sign) and vitamin see are sold there w/o any script, and its right next door to a solid 1 hour place that only charges 390 HKD girl + 100 HKD room. That's right around 65 us. The Viatamin V and C are 4 doses for 360 HKD. V is the 100mg horse pill which can be divided into atleast 4 doses.

Good luck all[/QUOTE]

The place next door is the infamous KPressure that had been mentioned here so many times.

Thanks for the pic and info,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory]Guys

Have a chance to come to HK for a weekend of fun 21. 24 November. Before I book my ticket can anyone let me know if there any events during that time that will mean bars extra busy and prices high e. G. Is the Navy in town or a rugby match on. If so I may delay my trip

Thanks

CT[/QUOTE]

Better re-schedule.

The navy is scheduled to be here over 10 days starting this coming weekend ... back to back visits by two carrier groups.

I was told this on Saturday by a bar manager in Wanchai.

Cheers.

Thanks for the info. Will delay!!

[QUOTE=Ruff Rider]Here is my first real post. Hope it helps someone as much as I've been helped by this forum. The attached pic is a pharmancy at the corner of Woosung st and Nathan Rd on the Kowloon side. Its mabe a 5 minute walk from the Jordan station of the Hong Kong MTR. As you can see from the pic, vitamin v (small round blue and white sign) and vitamin see are sold there w/o any script, and its right next door to a solid 1 hour place that only charges 390 HKD girl + 100 HKD room. That's right around 65 us. The Viatamin V and C are 4 doses for 360 HKD. V is the 100mg horse pill which can be divided into atleast 4 doses.

Good luck all[/QUOTE]I thinks this is also the same street with the Punk mamasan with the shorttime Thai girls up stairs, had some fun up there in the past wondering if there is still any action?

In town for some 24hrs beign a walking distance from the famous hari's bar. I took the chance to introduce the location to some friends unaware of the action and visited it for a drink. Nothing more than that in the schedule as a time off after Macau (see sauna reports) is much needed!so worth a quick update report on the crowd.
not packed, few seats available in the bar area, even if guarded by the WG's. Some tables and armchairs free in teh moer confortable lounge aerea.
Predominance of asian, two-three tall girls looking from Mongolia, at least as a feeling, or from some caucasian-asia bordering country. Some stunners and a black girl and that was it. Punters and mongers in decent quantity, but as usual WG outnumbering the male group by at least 2 to 3 times.
During our drink very few eye contacts, no direct contacts, although the majory ofthe girls seemed availabale.
When the band with two girl singers reached the stage for their set we left so can't judge their quality.

Shortly it will be my first time in HK, and I wonder if there is a high end sauna in HK with a club atmosphere, like the Grand Emeperor hotel spa in Macau (I had a great time there). Needs to be open 24 hr so I can sleep over. Maybe the following provide this ? (not clear from past posts)
141 , Ocean King, the old Carnival,
River Nile Sauna in Causeway Bay
the low-end Jordan Sauna Noble Sauna in TST

Ideas anyone? Thanks

Advice and comments appreciated!
My "Miss M" who I met last February in Wanchai and with whom I had a great time has suddenly, after 9 months of daily contact via email, messenger, text and phone calls, has asked for a loan. We have arranged to meet in Hong Kong next month and she is staying with me in my hotel for 2 weeks - sex on tap for 2 weeks for nothing!! (except the usual expenses of food etc which is not a problem). The arrangement has the potential of saving me in the region of HK$ 1000 per night so I am certainly not complaining. To say that we have got on well over the past 9 months is an understatement and we are both looking forward to meeting again.
The downside - today she asks for a loan of 15000 pesos for "show money" for immigration when she arrives in HK. She says she cant borrow any more in Philippines from where she comes. She has never asked for money from me before. She has promised to repay the money the minute she sees me. Should I send it? Is this the amount the authorities normally would want to see? It seems a lot to me. I should add I have paid the flight costs - I was not asked to do so but regarded it as a gift to her. I have already sent her a letter that she is staying with me at my hotel and she has a copy of the hotel booking to show immigration.
I dont want to send the money and then she does not appear. What do other punters think? I have a vague feeling there is a con coming on?
Any advice greatfully received. Needless to say I would be giving a "gift" to her when I leave that would be more than what she is currently asking for.
One way or another - full reports will be provided in due course!
What would you do?

Its all about the money - once you send that big amount, what do you do if she doesn't show up? Hunt her down? Spend more money trying to find her and to try and get the money back. Do you send a partial amount and if she shows up, give her balance?

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Advice and comments appreciated!

My "Miss M" who I met last February in Wanchai and with whom I had a great time has suddenly, after 9 months of daily contact via email, messenger, text and phone calls, has asked for a loan. We have arranged to meet in Hong Kong next month and she is staying with me in my hotel for 2 weeks - sex on tap for 2 weeks for nothing!! (except the usual expenses of food etc which is not a problem). The arrangement has the potential of saving me in the region of HK$ 1000 per night so I am certainly not complaining. To say that we have got on well over the past 9 months is an understatement and we are both looking forward to meeting again.

The downside - today she asks for a loan of 15000 pesos for "show money" for immigration when she arrives in HK. She says she cant borrow any more in Philippines from where she comes. She has never asked for money from me before. She has promised to repay the money the minute she sees me. Should I send it? Is this the amount the authorities normally would want to see? It seems a lot to me. I should add I have paid the flight costs - I was not asked to do so but regarded it as a gift to her. I have already sent her a letter that she is staying with me at my hotel and she has a copy of the hotel booking to show immigration.

I dont want to send the money and then she does not appear. What do other punters think? I have a vague feeling there is a con coming on?

Any advice greatfully received. Needless to say I would be giving a "gift" to her when I leave that would be more than what she is currently asking for.
One way or another - full reports will be provided in due course!
What would you do?[/QUOTE]Less than 500$, so the risk is limited.

If you have good feelings to her, take the risk.

I guess. Like me- you wasted more money for less before and my experience is that the risk is quite low.

But she will appreciate and you will receive.

Mike

[QUOTE=Michi]less than 500$, so the risk is limited.
If you have good feelings to her, take the risk.
I guess - like me- you wasted more money for less before and my
experience is that the risk is quite low.
..... but she will appreciate and you will receive......

Mike[/QUOTE]


Mike

Thanks for your observations - just a small point - 15000.00 pesos (maybe I did not show this clearly) is HK$2300, not 500! Would this alter your view?

Jackthelad

"The downside - today she asks for a loan of 15000 pesos for "show money" for immigration when she arrives in HK. She says she cant borrow any more in Philippines from where she comes. She has never asked for money from me before. She has promised to repay the money the minute she sees me. Should I send it?"

Sure ... go for it. It is only USD300 / HKD 2300+ and your trust will go a long way with her when she arrives. However, if the money disappears, then the amount of the loss is something you can probably live with. Have a great two weeks (hopefully).

Sorry to sound negative Jackel, but there are way too many other fish in the sea to take the chance. Meet another similar girl when in WanChai and start the whole process over again next time you are in Hong Kong. You could get freebies and bail when the money request comes from dozens of girls and never have to face the $$$ risk. She may have 9 other guys that she is communicating with and they may have been paying the bills during the 9 months that she never asked YOU for a penny (peso) :-). Amazonia is a good spot to find girls that aren't sure if they want to sell it, and can turn into freebies with only the cost of food and drink to be spent. I am too fond of new pussy to worry about a pillapina's financial woes. In any event, GOOD LUCK and stay safe!!!

Ruff Rider

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Advice and comments appreciated!

My "Miss M" who I met last February in Wanchai and with whom I had a great time has suddenly, after 9 months of daily contact via email, messenger, text and phone calls, has asked for a loan. We have arranged to meet in Hong Kong next month and she is staying with me in my hotel for 2 weeks - sex on tap for 2 weeks for nothing!! (except the usual expenses of food etc which is not a problem). The arrangement has the potential of saving me in the region of HK$ 1000 per night so I am certainly not complaining. To say that we have got on well over the past 9 months is an understatement and we are both looking forward to meeting again.
The downside - today she asks for a loan of 15000 pesos for "show money" for immigration when she arrives in HK. She says she cant borrow any more in Philippines from where she comes. She has never asked for money from me before. She has promised to repay the money the minute she sees me. Should I send it? Is this the amount the authorities normally would want to see? It seems a lot to me. I should add I have paid the flight costs - I was not asked to do so but regarded it as a gift to her. I have already sent her a letter that she is staying with me at my hotel and she has a copy of the hotel booking to show immigration.
I dont want to send the money and then she does not appear. What do other punters think? I have a vague feeling there is a con coming on?
Any advice greatfully received. Needless to say I would be giving a "gift" to her when I leave that would be more than what she is currently asking for.
One way or another - full reports will be provided in due course!
What would you do?[/QUOTE]

I think he is talking about US$500.00

For the amount of time she will spend with you its a good investment.

I would do it but it is up to you.

Hope it works out.

Wizard

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Mike

Thanks for your observations - just a small point - 15000.00 pesos (maybe I did not show this clearly) is HK$2300, not 500! Would this alter your view?

Jackthelad[/QUOTE]

I don't think it is unusual for authorities to expect a filipina to have pocket money.

So, it is about 2 nights of entertainment for you. I think it is worth the risk if you already have a good relationship with the girl.

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Anyone visit 37 Dundas, or any similar establishment in Mongkok recently?

I will be in HK for a few days shortly and was thinking about giving it a try? What is the quality and service like and what about the current prices?

I've also been checking out the 141 site. There seems to be a lot girls advertise on there. Are the pictures genuine and do the girls service gwailos?

I deserve a RTFF but there doesn't appear to have been much about the above recently and I have. I admit, left it criminally late to do my research ;).

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Anyone visit 37 Dundas, or any similar establishment in Mongkok recently?

I will be in HK for a few days shortly and was thinking about giving it a try? What is the quality and service like and what about the current prices?
[/QUOTE]

37D is still on my list of regular haunts. I recommend asking for Kaka or Siu Man if there's nothing in the lineup you like. Kaka is guaranteed anal. Still $490 and still worth a visit.

I'm planning a return trip to 8MK soon too; I'll report back. It used to have the pick of the fresh-off-the-train mainland teenagers. I hope it still does!

Gamahucher

I have viewed your quality posts many times so you don't deserve a RTFF from anyone.

I gather that 141 is for real and you have a good chance of communicating in varying degrees of English with the people who handle the Hotel Reservation girls. The best bet is to pay the extra 100 and have her delivered to the comfort and security of your own hotel room. Don't bother visiting the apartment houses full of *****s unless you have a bunch of free time at your disposal.

Are there any good bar recommendations in Wanchai?

How abt the Boracay at Luard Rd?

I've heard that have done a lot of remodelling?

How's the scene there? any good?

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Advice and comments appreciated!

What would you do?[/QUOTE]


I would take the risk. 300 bucks is pocket money compared to the happy time you are going to have. Go for it.

In case you do have a good time she deserves more in gifts. eg cloths etc.
Make her happy. She will reward you again in future.

Money is not that important. Happy momments are.

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]Gamahucher

I have viewed your quality posts many times so you don't deserve a RTFF from anyone.

I gather that 141 is for real and you have a good chance of communicating in varying degrees of English with the people who handle the Hotel Reservation girls. The best bet is to pay the extra 100 and have her delivered to the comfort and security of your own hotel room. Don't bother visiting the apartment houses full of *****s unless you have a bunch of free time at your disposal.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that RK and Idler31. Unfortunately I'm at the 'blown budget' end of a lengthy mongering trip and am having to economize on the hotel. Don't think either the girl or the staff of the backpackers 'chuck-ups' guest house I've booked at would appreciate a room visit ...chuckle :D.

I've been trying to cram in some last minute research (in between enjoying the delights of Bangkok before my unwilling departure) and think I will try both 57D and a 141 house. There does appear to be reasonable location photo guides on the site to help feckless mongering tourists such as myself.

Also, I want to try and get out to Wanchai if only to visit Neptune, which used to be an old haunt of mine when I lived in Hong Kong. I note that it seems to be on version 2. Is it in the same location as the original Neptune or has it moved?

I don't know where the old Neptunes or Neptunes 1 may have been, but the current Neptune 2 is on Jaffe rd. Directly opposite the back entrance of the Luk Kwok hotel. The front of the Luk Kwok is on Gloucester rd and the rear is on Jaffe Rd. Neptunes 2 is on Jaffe between Delaney's Irish pub and the Handlebar. The Handlebar is 98-108 Jaffe rd, so Neptunes must be like 68 or 78 Jaffe rd. Something like that. Good Luck!

Ruff Rider

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Also, I want to try and get out to Wanchai if only to visit Neptune, which used to be an old haunt of mine when I lived in Hong Kong. I note that it seems to be on version 2. Is it in the same location as the original Neptune or has it moved?[/QUOTE]

@Gamahucher
37D is also today okay. I visited 37D 10 days before, had a great time.
Nothing changed since my last visit a couple of months before. That means all what you found in ISG is valid.

141 is also fine, but I didn't try it this time.

whomer

On Thursday 27. 11. I will visit Hong Kong for one night, so I need advice for overnight girl 141, or to visit pubs in Wan chai area for pick up FL or DH from there.

Any advice and thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Gigi Power]On Thursday 27. 11. I will visit Hong Kong for one night, so I need advice for overnight girl 141, or to visit pubs in Wan chai area for pick up FL or DH from there.

Any advice and thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Avoid Wanchai that night. 7,000 navy will still be infesting the area.

Cheers.

Id do it Jack. If a Filipina is interested in you for you, then she will text call and chat with you.

If shes only interested in $$$ she would ask for money long before 9 months. Peso 15, 000. Not that much and if it results in 2 weeks of hot times then why not. If she doesn't show. Hey lifes not always perfect.

This year I have taken two Indonesian chat friends to Malaysia, one Filipina to HK, one Thai lady to Singapore. In all cases I sent airfare in advance and in all cases the ladies showed and a great time was had! Go for it.

[QUOTE=El Greco]I would take the risk. 300 bucks is pocket money compared to the happy time you are going to have. Go for it.

In case you do have a good time she deserves more in gifts. eg cloths etc.
Make her happy. She will reward you again in future.

Money is not that important. Happy momments are.[/QUOTE]I would also say take the risk. If you see her more often that is a good chance to find out if she is honest. If she is not, it is a cheap way to get rid of her. Many guys have been taken for much more. But then, even if she is honest for small amounts doesn't mean she will resist every temptation. Always use common sense.

(I am a bit surprised that immigratin only want to see 2300 HK$. That doesn't go a long way in HK. If someone needs a visa for Macau like e.G. Russians and Africans do, there he/she would have to show 15000 HK$.)

I just flew into HK today for a one day stopover and made the trip to K Pressure. I visitied 37 Dundas about a year ago so I knew the drill and was keen to compare. Greeted by a mamasan with very little english but enough to get by. I was introduced to Coco who I believe was quite new. Good enough for me but no stunner.

Up to the hotel which seemed a bit nicer than the hotel associated with 37D. Into the room, chat a bit of mandarin, then into the shower. Coco spent alot of time on the body slide stuff which I was starting to get bored with but she cleaned my crack pretty well so I knew I was in for the famous K Pressure rimming. Some good BBBJ in the shower but no DT.

Out of the shower and onto the bed and I got a nice body lick and then the rimming which was a first for me. She got right in there and spent a good 2 or 3 minutes. I'd been looking forward to it for a while but I'm not sure if it lived up to expectations. I empathise a bit with the poor girls who have to do that to make a living. More BBBJ then onto some action which didn't take long after all the build up.

I personally much preferred K Pressure to 37D although they really are the same deal. When walking around the back streets between Jordan and Monkok, there are hundred of similar places so I'm not sure why we always focus on 37D and K Pressure. Mind you, until someone else checks out a place first, I'm not going in there!

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I had the pleasure of a visit to HK (wanchai) back in 1987. After a long period away I returned in 2008. Whilst some of wanchai has remained the same the big thing that struck me was the lack of punters. Back in 87 every girly bar I went into was rammed with customers. Friday night down the strip of bars each side of Lockhart road had 20+ guys in them. The place was exotic, busy, hot, raw and sleevy. Obviously these days things have cooled off and wanchai has become more of a tourist curiosity. Infact the last I was there I spent most of my time in The OCH. However to my question does anybody know if there is place in asia that is still like the old days I experiebced in 87,

Bill Cowey

Give Neptunes a miss. It is the most overated place in HK and the bouncer outside are probably the most unfriendly. Fenwicks, is the place to be and all that it's cracked up to be as well.

[QUOTE=Ruff Rider]I don't know where the old Neptunes or Neptunes 1 may have been, but the current Neptune 2 is on Jaffe rd. Directly opposite the back entrance of the Luk Kwok hotel. The front of the Luk Kwok is on Gloucester rd and the rear is on Jaffe Rd. Neptunes 2 is on Jaffe between Delaney's Irish pub and the Handlebar. The Handlebar is 98-108 Jaffe rd, so Neptunes must be like 68 or 78 Jaffe rd. Something like that. Good Luck!

Ruff Rider[/QUOTE]

Forget this hotel, it is too far outside citycenter.

Girlfriendly of course.

Regards

Thomas jefferson

[QUOTE=Xmen6900]Hello dear friend,

Do you konw hotel Nina et Convention Centre

How is it?

Is it girlfriend?

Bye

Xmen6900[/QUOTE]

I stayed in HK for a couple of nights before heading up to China. Place hasn’t changed a heap – everyone still seem to dash about like they have a stick of lit dynamite rammed up their arses. Not good for saunterers like me who tend to hold up the human raceway.

Chungking Mansions (Chuck-ups to generations of British expats) has not changed one whit. Still in need a determined arson attack as it did 20 years ago and how it has survived for so long is a mystery. But it’s the place for dirt cheap rooms and I’m rather fond of its totally disreputable atmosphere, chock full of shady looking Africans, Indian *****s and feckless backpackers. Best Indian grub in HK can also be found there. Ridiculously inadequate lifts [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off though, as do the copy watch and tailor touting pests who congregate outside. For those who want budget accommodation, but in a toned down version, may I suggest Mirador Mansions in the next block to Chungking.

I was amused, while catching the most dramatic view in the world from the observation deck next to Kowloon Star Ferry, to watch two Pinay FL’s being accosted by a customer. He quickly negotiated a deal and disappeared off with his ‘catch’. They were rather cute and it being Sunday, I wondered if they were p/timers earning a little extra on their day off. There seemed to be a quite a few tarts parading about, but I guess it was just my practiced eye (I can spot a w**** in a crowd at 100 yards) and I don’t think most of the tourists up there noticed anything untoward. Is this a pick-up hotspot?

No good for me in my poxy walk-in cupboard excuse of a room though, so I reluctantly shelved plans to visit Wanchai’s pick-up joints and instead headed to Mongkok to take some good advice given on this board. Easily found what I imagine is 37D Dundas although I couldn’t see any signs which said as much. Ascended to the 1st floor where I was greeted by a quite attractive mamasan. Ushered into a small lounge and given a beer, whilst she went off to round up the herd. Disappointed by the 1st line up which consisted of 6 superannuated grannies. Asked mamasan if she had any younger girls. Hmmm, she said and off she trotted, to return a couple of minutes later with a much better line up of fit young things. Hard choice but settled on a cute one with the nice smile and after paying the HK$490 we mounted two floors to the on-site ST hotel.

Don’t know the girls name as she didn’t have a word of English and my few words of Cantonese did not help much. But actions speak louder than words in these things and I certainly didn’t have to tell her what to do. A long, pleasurable shower, the latter stages of which she attached herself to my nether parts like a sucker fish. Carried on the motion on the bed for another 15 minutes including some quite acceptable DT and then I thought we better get down to business before the time ran out. Usual few positions but just had to finish off in cowgirl as I had spotted the full length ceiling mirror. A good if not outstanding punt. This girl had a distracting but quite erotic way of sighing, under her breath, every few seconds, as if she had just orgasmed but didn’t want the world to know. Quite turned me on – much better than the fake moaning that you sometimes get.

The following night, I decided to check out the scene on Portland Street, which intersects Dundas Street and runs parallel to, and 1 block back from Nathan Road, and on which I had noted a number of similar places to 37D. However as I was lurking about, deciding which one to visit or whether to go for the guaranteed service at 37D, I was approached by one of the areas numerous SW’s. Some had looked a bit rough but this one, called Lyn, was quite tasty. 22, very petite with auburn dyed shortish hair and a lovely pair of large, shapely top bollocks that had my immediate attention. Only thing that was off putting were her crooked, slightly discoloured teeth. Using sign language, abysmal Cantonese and pidgin English and a mobile, I determined that she wanted 400 for 1 hour. I offered 300 which she was happy with and we went to her nearby 3rd floor flat. I was initially a little apprehensive but apart from the flat being a bit grubby and spartan, everything went OK. Shared shower play first in which I discovered those tits were for real and stunning but wasn’t too impressed by the unshaven thicket down below the plimsol line. This was followed by a long BBBJ, then various positions which had her quite breathy and vocal, before whipping out, ditching the cover and putting those lovely mammaries to full masturbatory effect. Don’t think that she was too impressed by the facial splodge finish though. I think that I know the Mandarin for ‘You fucking bastard’ now.

Just love Honkers and now that I know that there is good, if expensive mongering opportunities there as well, I love it more. Just in smallish doses these days.

GH

I absolutely agree and personally I prefer 37D since the girls are a bit younger. Went to explore another place close to 37D on Sunday and it was rather disappointed. It's a similar place like K Pressure but is on the right and then left after you come out of 37D. The masasans were not very friendly and there weren't that many choices. Fortunately, I didn't stay and left after about 10 minutes wait. Went back to 37D and had a good time.
SM.

[QUOTE=Panettone]I just flew into HK today for a one day stopover and made the trip to K Pressure. I visitied 37 Dundas about a year ago so I knew the drill and was keen to compare. Greeted by a mamasan with very little english but enough to get by. I was introduced to Coco who I believe was quite new. Good enough for me but no stunner.

Up to the hotel which seemed a bit nicer than the hotel associated with 37D. Into the room, chat a bit of mandarin, then into the shower. Coco spent alot of time on the body slide stuff which I was starting to get bored with but she cleaned my crack pretty well so I knew I was in for the famous K Pressure rimming. Some good BBBJ in the shower but no DT.

Out of the shower and onto the bed and I got a nice body lick and then the rimming which was a first for me. She got right in there and spent a good 2 or 3 minutes. I'd been looking forward to it for a while but I'm not sure if it lived up to expectations. I empathise a bit with the poor girls who have to do that to make a living. More BBBJ then onto some action which didn't take long after all the build up.

I personally much preferred K Pressure to 37D although they really are the same deal. When walking around the back streets between Jordan and Monkok, there are hundred of similar places so I'm not sure why we always focus on 37D and K Pressure. Mind you, until someone else checks out a place first, I'm not going in there!

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Just wanted to share my recent experience in HK, my 1st trip there. Had a stopover in HK and stayed at Shangrila near Causeway Bay for 1 night.

Before I arrived in HK, did the goggle check on 141 and came up with quite a few nice potentials. Wanted to try out the 141's in Fuji Building etc near that area but due to time constraint and lack of sense of adventure, I got the girl to come to my hotel instead. To cut the story short, I called the top choice number on my list and a pimp answered. Asked him for that particular girl I saw on the net but he said she had gone back to China. I requested for his recommendation as long as she has big boobies and young. The cost if you go to the apartment or hotel as the case may be is HK$800 but for her to come to my hotel, add another HK$100.

The pimp called me up at the hotel to double check that I was actually staying there and promised a nice girl will arrive in 30mins. Sure enough, my doorbell rang and I greeted a 22 year old pretty thing from China. Unfortunately, she didn't have the big boobies I requested for but nonetheless, I said ok and she came in. If you are not satisifed, you can send her back and get the pimp to send you another one.

This girlie had just arrived in HK for 2 days and pretty shy but friendly. Did the usual shower before the action starts and she gave the didi a good washing. In bed, she gave a bbbj which was kinda of lame and spent a good 20mins trying to awaken it. After that was a straight missionary a la factory machine operator style (where I hold up her legs by the ankle and move them like levers while bonking!). Like some expert bros here said, the younger ones have sensitive nipples and react to attention. True enough, she was very responsive on the nipple twiddling and licking. Pussy went from dry to wet as the session progressed and in no time, I exploded. Paid the HK$900 damage and off she went. From the time she came in and left, it took less than 45mins.

Overall, she was not very skillful but it was still enjoyable despite the high price. At the actual 141 buildings, you can get them from HK$400 upwards but I suppose this category may be slightly older girlies.

Thanks to some great info here that I managed to enjoy this short trip and next time, I'll definitely return to do some real hunting be it Yellow Signs or 141s or anything else HK has to offer.

Thanks to Cartman for the outstanding directions which I’ve copied below. In major cities, knowing what exit to take from the station makes all the difference. (Even if you don’t take the train, you can go down into the station and find the right exit.)

If you don't want to take the Metro, K-Pressure is about a twenty minute walk from the Star Ferry area. If you don't know the area, I suggest that you go to Nathan Road and find the Jordan Metro station. Then follow Cartman's directions.

I’ve added a photo of the exterior sign which I hope might help some.

“Directions:
MTR (Metro) to Jordan stop. Take “Exit A” from station, turn right onto Jordan, take 2nd right onto Woosung Street (7-11 on corner), K-Pressure is 2nd building on left.

Landmarks:
You’ll know Woosong as there is a 7-11 on the corner with Jordan, next to this on the right on Woosong St. is the famous Pharmacy near K-Pressure (on the right), is the narrow entrance to K-Pressure. K-Pressure’s signs suck – it’s all in chinese characters with just an English letter K. Also when you go in the narrow hallway under the signs, K-Pressure entrance is in the back of the hallway, past the elevators, up the stairs. Don’ t take the elevators.”

The basic price is still $390 HK but the room rate is currently $110 HK.

I had three different girls over the two weeks I was there. None spoke or understood even basic English. (Turn over, blow job, etc.)

As you go up the steps, you enter an area that looks like a small bar. But all three times I was quickly ushered into a separate meeting rooms where I was offered three girls before I made a selection. I spent approximately three minutes with each girl and was able to "meet" each of them. You can feel them up while they try to rub your cock.

After paying the service fee, the girls lead me up steps to the hotel where the other fee was collected.

I had three different rooms. All were clean with large showers and one had a toilet. After a fairly long shower, I had the choice of either the body slide in the shower or to the bed.

All three girls were Chinese, probably in their mid-20’s, with small tits. Service was always with a smile and my impression was they would be willing do anything that wouldn’t hurt them. This included BBBJ and anal rimming. (But it was sometimes different for them to understand what I wanted.)

I had never had a rim job so I had the first two perform the task.. When I told the third girl that it wasn’t necessary she said “Tank you, tank you!” and tried to kiss me on the mouth. Since I figured that she’d had her tongue in some other mongers’ assholes a couple of times already that day, I declined. :)

No upsell was attempted by any of the three.

Afterwards, each time I left I was met by the mamasan who asked if the service was good. It seems like a safe, well run establishment.

Thanks to all that gave me comments or suggestions.

Hi guys,

A friend had once mentioned that I can get porn dvds from this place in wanchai called 298 Computer Centre. I hope to load up on some good jap porn uncensored dvds (mature/milf/busty in particular). Any place in HK that sells a wide range of these things?

Have not personally been to 298 computer centre, and googling it doesnt show me much information.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks!

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"Welcome To Man's Paradise Enjoy Yourself" - good sign. That's all the English we need.

Hi everyone!

I went to 37Dundas two weeks ago and had some time with an young, petite Chinese. I didn't catch her name, since this was my first P4P ever, I was a little bit nervous. I took the lift to the second floor (I didn't know there was another place below)

I didn't have any lineup, the just brought me this girl and she seemed nice, and up we go. Maybe because it was early in the afternoon, and no girls to choose from? Had a great time and will certainly go there again if possible.

Question: How about Christmas and New Years Eve in Hong Kong? Is HK a fun place to be, or does everything closes and the girls are off? I'm thinking of spending those days I HK.

Finally I'd like to thank everyone that has been posting so much useful information here, and made my stay I HK easy and enjoyable.

(English isn't my first language, so I'm sorry if you find this hard to understand)

[QUOTE=Awesome Man]Hi everyone!

I went to 37Dundas two weeks ago and had some time with an young, petite Chinese. I didn't catch her name, since this was my first P4P ever, I was a little bit nervous. I took the lift to the second floor (I didn't know there was another place below)

I didn't have any lineup, the just brought me this girl and she seemed nice, and up we go. Maybe because it was early in the afternoon, and no girls to choose from? Had a great time and will certainly go there again if possible.

Question: How about Christmas and New Years Eve in Hong Kong? Is HK a fun place to be, or does everything closes and the girls are off? I'm thinking of spending those days I HK.
[/QUOTE]

You had a normal 2nd floor experience at 37D... they never do line-ups. Only the first floor place does that.

As for Christmas and the New Year, HK carries on pretty much as always in terms of P4P... lots of punters are out of town though, so there's a bit more choice than usual!

I took another trip to Blue Sky in Causeway Bay last night. It's expensive-ish, but I love the fact that it's sparkling clean all the time, and they don't rush you about. However, I griped to the papa-san that my last couple of visits had been very much characterised by rushed and perfunctory massage, even though the Extra Services had been perfectly acceptable.

Papa took this criticism well, and told me that if I wanted a damn good massage, he'd find me the right girl.

What I got was #60, and I can't recommend her enough. She's young-ish and cute, nice body, Shanghainese, speaks decent English, and actually _knows_ how to do a massage. She treated me to a long, expert and thoroughly relaxing massage, then a teasingly light and oily ass-rub, and then we moved onto the CFS. Unusually, she didn't use great handfuls of messy lubricant - obviously a girl who enjoys her job, she lubricated naturally and we had an excellent unrushed fuck. Then she went to clean up and left me to doze and then came back and finished off by giving me a head-massage until time ran out.

All in: $1048 plus $20 for the locker-room coolie.

I'm definitely going back for more of #60. She says she's the only Shanghainese in the "stable", so if you can't remember the number, just ask for the Shanghai girl!

[QUOTE=Idler31]You had a normal 2nd floor experience at 37D... they never do line-ups. Only the first floor place does that.


Could you explain the difference bettwen Dundas 37 first and second floor? I wasn't aware there were two.

One night when I was strolling around the Temple Street Market Area I saw an very old lady, dressed almost like a punkrocker with short skirt, big sunglasses and a leather jacket. She was sitting outside a building on what I believe was Woosung Street, trying to make eye-contact with me. Does anyone recognize this lady? Is she a mamasan or a hooker?

[QUOTE=Awesome Man]One night when I was strolling around the Temple Street Market Area I saw an very old lady, dressed almost like a punkrocker with short skirt, big sunglasses and a leather jacket. She was sitting outside a building on what I believe was Woosung Street, trying to make eye-contact with me. Does anyone recognize this lady? Is she a mamasan or a hooker?[/QUOTE]

Yes. She used to offer Thai girls (upstairs). The service is not bad, though the rooms are dirty.

Hi,

I am from Hong Kong.

Wondering if you guys not find some native Hong Kong girls?

You might note that Xmas Eve is a very big festival night in Hong Kong. Millions (no exageration) of people throng the streets of Tsimshatsui and Causeway Bay and stay out past midnight. This shouldn't hamper your mongering. The usual joints will be open but the traffic and MTR systems can be in dissarray for most of the night.

Acer

[QUOTE=Awesome Man]Hi everyone!

I went to 37Dundas two weeks ago and had some time with an young, petite Chinese. I didn't catch her name, since this was my first P4P ever, I was a little bit nervous. I took the lift to the second floor (I didn't know there was another place below)

I didn't have any lineup, the just brought me this girl and she seemed nice, and up we go. Maybe because it was early in the afternoon, and no girls to choose from? Had a great time and will certainly go there again if possible.

Question: How about Christmas and New Years Eve in Hong Kong? Is HK a fun place to be, or does everything closes and the girls are off? I'm thinking of spending those days I HK.

Finally I'd like to thank everyone that has been posting so much useful information here, and made my stay I HK easy and enjoyable.

(English isn't my first language, so I'm sorry if you find this hard to understand)[/QUOTE]

Gents,

Long time no post. I've been away on business. But I've managed to find 2 very GFE girls who get even better on repeat visits. Needless to say, treat them well for best results. Ask for Elaine or Tzee Yan.

BTW I found a nice place to take my freebie. Mingle Place Eden, 148 Wellington St between Central and Sheung Wan, is a very nice love hotel and is only $290/2 hrs or $390/3 hrs. It leaves the Ming Court or Villa Victoria in the dust by far.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

[QUOTE=Super Freak69]Hi guys,

A friend had once mentioned that I can get porn dvds from this place in wanchai called 298 Computer Centre. I hope to load up on some good jap porn uncensored dvds (mature/milf/busty in particular). Any place in HK that sells a wide range of these things?

Have not personally been to 298 computer centre, and googling it doesnt show me much information.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks![/QUOTE]Hello, I am from Hong Kong.

Let me tell you some useful information about adult DVD firm in Hong Kong. We normally "BT" adult firm from internet. We don; t buy from them since. Maybe 2003. 2004.

1) How much money do we need to visit these places if we just want one girl?

2) How safe are these places? I mean safe from police harrassment.

3) Do you know where one can find providers with shaved pussies?

Thanks for the help.

I stayed at Renaissance Kowloon Hotel in November. Got a rate of 980 HKD for standard guest room from the airport. After bargaining at the hotel reception I manage to upgrade the room to club level deluxe room for 1580 HKD including tax. It was my third time in the same hotel that I realized it went older, need renovation and does not worth for that price. They didn’t let me make late check-out although the hotel wasn’t busy and I was staying in the club level.

Anyway, on my second night around 22. 30, I was heading to Intercontinental’s lobby lounge which I like to spend couple of hours. When I was passing through the lobby and reception of my hotel, I realized 3 WG’s sitting at the bar. I got out of the hotel and have a smoke outside and come back to the bar to check them for action. They were not less than 30 years old and made so obvious what they are after by their lookings. 10 minutes later one of them came over and after a little chat offered "massage" for 2000 HKD, which was not accepted. At last, as the bar was closing, we settled the price 900 for LT. In the room after 20 min. Chit-chat we got to business. As she took off her clothes and quick shower I was disappointed. She had a body of early 40’s. Anyway, after 1 pop, which showed she had good skills but body poor in quality with bad smell, I gave her 900 and let her go.

Those who has to stay in that hotel;

1. The hotel is GF, and even you stay at the floor of club level reception (18 or 19th) no problem with joining guests.

2. The hotel is becoming a dump place as far as the decoration is very old.

3. The bar that I mentioned, is not the lobby at the ground floor next to concierge. It is next to main reception which is one floor up through moving staircase. There is also live music and a restaurant all together. I hope that my report will contribute a little to HK thread.

Stay Safe

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Hi guys,

Looking for a decent hotel max 1000HK where I don; t need to give my credit card for deposit to bring my GF?

GOt to be decent at she is not a working girl but a real GF.

Thks

That was few weeks ago. Went to Galaxy on Saturday evening, with no agenda, since I had a long and exhausting day, just wanted to relax and have a drink. Must add that it was my first time in Galaxy, since I usually focus on establishments on Lockhart Rd. I like Galaxy, probably the most 'civilized' club from the ones I know. Good mix of WG and people who just come to have fun. Or so that is my impression. Great band, I must add.

It was 6 pm on Saturday and given that the hour was early, I wasn't expecting to see much of an action. Few non-WG were dancing, I sat back with a drink, watching. Half an hour later 4 girls came in, two of them approached me immediately, and judging by the attitude, they were all WG. We chatted, and I focused on the quiet, good looking one. We hit it off right away, conversation was going well, so we moved to the back and ordered some more drinks. Eventually, I got tired and said that I'm going home, but since I really liked her, I suggested that I will take her with me. She was happy to hear that, but didn't want to talk about the money. "I don't know how it works, blah blah blah". It was obvious that she was WG, but for some reason, she didn't want to take money. We took a cab back to my place, and had really good time. She was aggressive, which was a big turn on, overall, we both had a good time. In the morning we went for breakfast, then for a long walk to a park. After that, we met one more time, before she went back to Philippines.

Second girl I met in Fenwicks two weeks ago. She actually approached me two times before, but I never took her home. Just had a chat, bought her a drink once. This time she told me she is going to back to Philippines on the coming Tuesday. And on Monday, she will give it to me for free. For free!

I don't know WTF is going on, but Marry Christmas to me.

As my Zhuhai freebie who spent the week-end with me here had to return home to go to work, I decided to try this place which has been reported on frequently here.
It is easy to find, 2 minutes from exit A of the Jordan subway station. As suggested you pass the elavators and take the stairs. I was greeted by a lady who asked me if it was my first time. She took me to a small waiting room where she explained it was 390+110 for massage and FS. I told her it was my first time but I knew the ropes.
I picked the second girl she brought in. A girl by the name of Becky who spoke no english except "Honey". Service was very good and enthousiastic. Shower, body slide, riming, BBBJ (fire & ice) in the shower then moved to the bed for a tongue massage and more rimming, more BBBJ (pretty good) and various position.
Overall pretty good but 45 minutes passes by quickly especially as they call the room 10 minutes before the end. I felt I was being rushed at the end.
It was a nice change from my freebies who are definitely better educated and often better looking but certainly don't do rim jobs.
Good deal but too rushed. There are definitely many places like this around there.

[QUOTE=Benjao]Hi guys,

Looking for a decent hotel max 1000HK where I don; t need to give my credit card for deposit to bring my GF?

GOt to be decent at she is not a working girl but a real GF.

Thks[/QUOTE]

Try the Cosmoplitan Hotel in Queens Road East if you are on the island but it is also handy for most places via MTR. I'm there just now and it is fine and costs about what you want to pay. Guests cming in after 12 midnight have to declare their "friend" but the desk is right at the elevators nd there is no problem. I have actually never seen this in HK before but after a couple of nights they just nod to you as you go to the elevators.
It is opposite the Happy Valley racecourse and 10 mins walk to Wan Chai.

[QUOTE=Benjao]Hi guys,

Looking for a decent hotel max 1000HK where I don; t need to give my credit card for deposit to bring my GF?

GOt to be decent at she is not a working girl but a real GF.

Thks[/QUOTE]
Your best bet is to contact just about any travel agent in Hong Kong and ask them for their list of hotels which you can buy "vouchers" from them.

Basically, there are hotel room consolidators who commits to a certain number of hotel rooms a year at a much reduced contract price. These consolidators in turn come up with their list to the travel agents who gets 10% commission to sell pre-paid vouchers.

This system not only works for/from Hong Kong, but also if you are headed for overseas destinations and need to get a discounted room. Much like those web sites offering hotel, airline, car rentals etc. but this system via the HKG travel agents have been in place years before the web sites.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Try the Cosmoplitan Hotel in Queens Road East if you are on the island but it is also handy for most places via MTR. I'm there just now and it is fine and costs about what you want to pay. Guests cming in after 12 midnight have to declare their "friend" but the desk is right at the elevators nd there is no problem. I have actually never seen this in HK before but after a couple of nights they just nod to you as you go to the elevators.
It is opposite the Happy Valley racecourse and 10 mins walk to Wan Chai.[/QUOTE]
Apologies first.
But I really don't think the Cosmopolitan is a good choice if you are gonna be with a local chinese girl. It is right next to the Happy Valley cemetery, although I believe that all of their windows at the back is covered with those coating which blocks all view from the room whilst allowing the sun light to come in.

I'd think that a local Chinese gal would know about the cemetry at the back and be a bit freaked out/afraid of ghosts etc - and that would really be a romance kiler!

Besides which, there are tons of other hotels in Hong Kong, much better situated (the cosmopolitan is located at a very inconveneint place away from anything - really!), and within your budget - especially if you use a Travel agent as I suggested earlier

SEAJ

My Philippino girlfiriend has a lesbian fantasy involving a white woman. Ever the obliging partner I wish to indulge her. Is it possible to find such a thing in Hong Kong (either with an agency or FL) and what would be the ballpark cost?

See this article about the trafficking of Nepali girls and specifically the quote below.

[url]http://www.truthout.org/120808WA[/url]

"In 1999, the city of Hong Kong was the second largest destination for trafficked girls from Nepal."

Since when are Nepali girls available here? Or when have they ever been? Is there a whole other world of mongering known only to the South Asian community here? Anyone know anything about this?

Was in the area the other day so on a whim I popped into the famous Coronet Court in North Point. I hadn't done any homework beforehand so I just started knocking. I settled on flat 19, a girl who said her name was Minnie, although on the 141 web site it says her name is Man Yuk.

She was cute. Very perky natural tits. Started in with BBBJ without me even needing to ask for it, which for 141 girls it's rare that the go uncovered without at least asking. Decent fuck.

Worth a try.

Thks a lot for your help but I need to find an hotel where I don't need to give my credit card I'm just afraid that my wife may trace my credit card record please help any hotel where I can just pay the fee but don't need to give my CC for deposit.

THks guys

You can always pay cash for your hotel stay.

@Eric Dove
I bought some years ago some pron dvds in Kownloon. But all these stores (can be found in this forum be searching) had been closed after a crack down in 2005 or 2006. Since this time I recommend everybody to go Shenzhen to buy dvds. You can get there everthing you want.

Whomer

i was on my way from shenzhen to beijing this week and i had a short over night stay in hkg. as usual i checked in my favorite hotel in mongkok. since i was a little bit tired, i booked a 3 hrs massage at the hotel spa. it was not easy to get this, because they want only to give you 1 or at max 2hrs massage.
the massage is expensive, the usual 5 star hotel spa experience. but this time i wanted a little bit more. i asked the therapist (wonderful girl, 22yo, slim and tiny) for some special services, but she neglected it first. so we started to talk about her job, her salary and bonuses.
after 1,5 hrs she made a short break and came back after 5 mins. she told me that she would expand the massage if i wanted. and then she asked me about bonuses and how to get them in europe.
finally she agreed to give me the massage naked and to give me a "happy ending" as she told it. i couldn't resist to touch her, first she refused me, but i insisted. it was a kind of teasing game i really enjoyed. we ended in 69 and a very slow sex session (i had a condom with me, but she had also one with her - surprisingly).
this was the best treatment a got in a 5 star hotel in hk.
the treatment: 2000 hkd
the tip or bonus: 1.200 hkd (i didn't negotiate with her or she with me).
we arranged a next appointment when i'm on my way back.
please pm me when you want to get the name of the hotel.
whomer

Gents,

I got shut out of my BKK trip due to the Airport closure. I could have taken the leg to HK but didn't.- my mistake, I think, after reading this thread. I don't know the go in HK like I do in the l. O. S.

If any of you experienced HK-hands want to list a few reasonably priced hotels in the neighborhoods we all appreciate, well I'd appreciate that. To me, HK is a little like NYC expense-wise and I was intimidated to blast out there, knowing I would be stuck for a while in the unfamiliar town. A guy once told me about these place for action.- Neptune, Strawberry, Makati 2 and Laguna.- but that's all I had to go on.

Again, I regret not winging it to HK. Didn't research in advance for the blow out at Suvarni (sp? ) Airport. Thanks in advance. Jkz

[QUOTE=Cat Scratch]My Philippino girlfiriend has a lesbian fantasy involving a white woman. Ever the obliging partner I wish to indulge her. Is it possible to find such a thing in Hong Kong (either with an agency or FL) and what would be the ballpark cost?[/QUOTE]Other than find another swinging couple, you can also check out the Latin American women at Fenwick. As you walk in the front door go straight towards the back. They are usually along the wall on your right.

[QUOTE=Stamina Dick]Just email this advice to a mate going to HKG for the first time, so decided to share it win my fellow brothers on here.

Arriving into HKG at 6am and trainining it to Wanchai doing a quick checkin at the Wharney and then down the street for a pick up is a treat. A good root & a sleep before 10am local time is the best way to arrive in a city no jet lag!

Cheers for now brothers

This is the site I use for hotel bookings in Asia.

My preference is to stay at the Luk Kwok (12) or the Wharney Hotel (3) both in Wanchai.

[url]http://www.agoda.com/MapManagement/Map.aspx?area_id=26032&hotel_id=2183[/url]

See hotel map of Wanchai with Jaffe Rd & Lockhart Rd are the best place to be especially if you check out:

Fenwick’s
Neptune’s
Joe Banana’s
Dusk Till Dawn
Delaney’s Bar
Bull Dog Bar

Enjoy yourself and travel safe.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I just booked Wharney around christmas time. How to get to Fenwick and Neptune from this hotel? Which road on the map? Fenwick Pier St?

Previously on visits to Hong Kong I was able to purchase large quantities of asian port in Mon Kok on the 1st floor of the computer building.
However when I was there 6 weeks ago there were no more of those porn or software shops in the computer building.
Is it possible to buy asian porn in Hong Kong now and if so where??? I would like to get some on my Christmas visit.

Please advise me!!

Thanks Brownrail. I am aware of the Latin American women. We have attempted this is Singapore but they promise more than they deliver (i.e. they are happy to make me happy but less so my girlfriend). EIther way in the absence of a better option will give it a try (and post the report if successful)

time to come out from lurking again. i know, long tr. and actually little info on my personal experience with my 141 gal. skip my report if you want the down and dirty because it ain't here.

recently, i had the opportunity to meet up with fellow monger who i'll refer to as ck, in hong kong. we were both here from the us and our schedules intersected so we got together to share stories, a peking duck dinner and a "trick or treat" experience at the hop yi building in causeway bay area, just a couple of minutes from wanchai in hk.

hop yi is famous for it's 12 floors of *****s. i don't spent lots of times in the 141s but i've been there enough to know how it's supposed to work. my previous experiences in the 141s have been good but not great but ck showed me the new proper etiquette in working these small apartments.

prior history. i have gone to a couple of places in the past and i assumed that once you rang a bell or knocked on the door, you were committed. you had to do your homework first by looking at the 141 sites (or similar, 161, best141, etc), noting the best looking gals that you wanted to do and then proceed to the building to see if she was available. i could see myself walking down the hall with pictures and unit numbers in hand, scribbling notes. but that really wasn't going to work.

some buildings would the post pics of the girls posted on the door, usually with a blurred face. once the girl opened the door, it was considered bad form to just reject her on looks alone. i always followed the unwritten rule of committing once you knock. that was the process i was used to since i was in a strange, usually dark building full of hookers, customers, video cameras and usually one (or maybe more) security guard.

new etiquette. here's my latest take of what the process is. you can look up the 141 sites to get an idea of which fantasy girl you want but until you see her in person, you're probably not going to commit. every customer going there has two intentions imho, he's either looking for a specific gal.one that he did prior or a recommendation or.try out someone new. everyone is ringing every door that has a welcome sign or is lit up with a pink flourescent bulb. sometimes the signs are in chinese, making it difficult to know if she's busy or not. every doorbell looks and works the same. guys are ringing bells, looking at the girls and asking some very basic questions. there really is no small talk other than asking price. this seems very acceptable to the girls so now on to my "trick or treat experience"

ck and i just started by taking the elevator to the top floor of hop yi. the building is fairly narrow and there could not be more than 6-8 gals on each floor if it were at full capacity. more than likely, there are about five active units on each floor. during prime time, after 7:00pm or so, there's mongers everywhere. they are all hk locals with an occasional caucasian or non-chinese face. you don't just shoot the breeze with the guys in the hall like you would at the biergarten in bkk. you don't make eye contact and the focus in on the gals. h2p and i probably could care less since we're not locals. we're just going up to every door, positioning ourselves to get the best look when she opens the door, etc.

a couple of other interesting tidbits. i don't recommend ringing more than one door at a time. i think it's really bad form to just ring the bell of every available gal just to have multiple doors open up. if you have two people such as when ck and i were doing the rounds, we would position ourselves at different doors, especially if it were tight quarters. the main goal is to get a few tidbits of information from her when she opened the door. we were evaluating her attitude, looks, her desire to sell her product and whether she was just going through the motions. you have to do this in probably 20 secs or less since you only had the one opportunity just smile and say something like, how much? these gals don't speak much english but they all know pricing. we were looking for that little extra clue to see who would be good and who would be fantastic.

as we proceeded down and eventually back up the floors. we had to start making mental notes of which girl we had seen and who was available. we needed a contact management program and pda to track all of the gals we looked at. i would guesstimate that we saw close to 25 gals in hop yi (roughly 2 per floor) who answered the door. there were definitely lots of "busy, come back later" signs as well as lots of moaning and groaning coming from behind closed doors. out of the 25 gals, more than 70% were doable, the others just had bad attitude or had no personality. there was probably only a couple that were downright unattractive since there's got to be a minimum standard for this building. if you don't measure up, you're not going to get a lot or any business.

as we got into the swing of things, the gals were answering the doors some quicker than others. if other mongers were around, they would crane their necks to get a peek of the gal. if just felt like halloween where you are the kids ringing the bell, the girls are the ones dressed in costume and i'm missing my pillowcase for my treats. the doors are decorated with stickers, some funny phrases (valentine, super model, etc). of course, there's always the wondering out loud, if the girl that's busy is even better looking or provides better service. you don't get to see her and you don't want to hang out listening to her screams and moans. kinda reminds me of the guys who hang out in front of adelitas in tijuana, mexico keeping track of the gals and who goes up, how long, is the customer happy when he comes back down? . but that's another story.

ck and i finally made it near the ground floor and we started connecting the dots and making notes on who was desirable and where she was. it was easy to sort of remember, 8th floor, but was it the unit to the right two doors down or was it three doors down? we also saw groups of young men, sometimes up to five, ringing one doorbell and just standing back waiting to see who opened the door. we surmised that no one was really willing to go in, it was just some strange sort of male bonding experience.

one other interesting note, there's a high probability you are being viewed/recorded at by close-circuit tv from within the gals little apartment. the girl i saw had a message on her screen saying that her hard drive was filled up and images weren't being saved. i wonder if this is being piped into a central repository. hmmm

getting back on track, the girls all wanted between 350 and 500 hkd for about 45 minutes worth of service. this usually includes a standup shower in the combo toilet shower room. some may give you body to body vertically while in the shower or even a listerine or warm water bj. on to the bed, and it looks like any other mongkok one-up, basket full of condoms, lots of liquids like lubes, mouthwash, lotions, etc. huge amount of towels and boxes of tissues everywhere. the girls have standard routines such as licking, nibbling, stroking, etc. suffice it to say, it was a good start to my trip. there will be more reporting on my other leg (no pun intended) to macau, which i'll post in the appropriate section.

141s are a good option for quick and dirty experience. pick a girl and go with it.

juplo

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