SubCmdr's UTR's, Non-Pros (NP), and Sugar Babies (SB)

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1846986]The problem is that it seems you are trying to translate a colloquialism which does not work out too well. No Spanish speaker would use "to spread" in that manner. They would use the verb abrir (to open) when referring to someone parting their legs. So when you try to speak in that manner it will confuse a lot of people.

As you get more familiar with languages you pick up on how some words are used and how others are not used. It is best to keep it simple if you wish to be understood.

It is not that people in DR speak rapidly. It is that many people in the DR are uneducated and speak Dominican or broken Spanish instead of standard Spanish. It is similar to looking at an interview with a Memphis rapper. You speak English and he is from the USA, yet you can not tell what the hell he is saying because his grammar and enunciation skills are so poor.

I remember a long time ago talking to a chick and she was saying "como tu ta. " I could not for the life of me understand what the hell she was saying. Come to find out she was cutting off her words as is common with uneducated people and she was actually saying "como tu estas. " You can tell an educated Dominican right off the bat because they speak clearly and use correct Spanish. You do not have to guess at what they are saying.

When I am writing or talking with a chick I demand they use standard Spanish instead of the BS they are known to use. If they can not do that then I personally have no business talking to them. I explain to them that Spanish is not my first language. When I learned Spanish, I learned standard Spanish. I was not taught hood Spanish or Dominican. I lose a lot of chicks right there because they simply are not able to communicate in actual Spanish, not that they do not want to they simply do not know how to.

I have told the story before of being in Sosua talking to a girl I knew when another girl approached. The girl who I was talking to had the nickname of Mosquito. The girl who came up was calling her Mokito. She asked for her phone number and the way she was saying it was exactly how she entered it into her phone.

I guarantee that if you were to step into Colombia or Costa Rica you would swear that your Spanish comprehension went from 20% to 80% overnight. It is because in those countries more people are educated and a greater percentage of the population speak standard Spanish instead of a non-standard dialect.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] I remember a long time ago talking to a chick and she was saying "como tu ta.[/QUOTE]It is common in Dominican dialect and some other dialects of Spanish, to drop the 's' sound except at the beginning of a word or before a vowel, like Sosua. As a linguist you should know this. Get used to it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1847080]It is common in Dominican dialect and some other dialects of Spanish, to drop the 's' sound except at the beginning of a word or before a vowel, like Sosua. As a linguist you should know this. Get used to it.[/QUOTE]And which other dialects of Spanish would this also be common in? So how do you account for the "es" that is dropped at the beginning of "estas"? As I said it is an informal dialect aka improper Spanish. That is not taught at schools. You will not see that written in a book nor on the evening news. It is a part of being uneducated.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1847085]And which other dialects of Spanish would this also be common in? So how do you account for the "es" that is dropped at the beginning of "estas"? As I said it is an informal dialect aka improper Spanish. That is not taught at schools. You will not see that written in a book nor on the evening news. It is a part of being uneducated.[/QUOTE]Cuba, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Andalusia, the Canary Islands.

And like I said, there are grammatical rules for the aspirated 's', which you as a linguist should know. In "como estas" both esses are aspirated or deleted, but in "Sosua" neither of them are. I already explained this rule to you. Every chica knows this linguistic rule, but you do not.

[URL]http://web.haskins.yale.edu/sr/SR119/SR119_15.pdf[/URL]

Calling it a sign of lack of education or ignorance is just like calling African American speech ignorant because it does not conform to Standard American speech as used on CNN or CBS. Half the mongers on this board refer to "Sousa" instead of Sosua, so most of the chicas have one up on them.

In any dialect of English, you will, of course, find that the people who speak the broadest form of the dialect tend to be less educated than those whose speech conforms more closely to the written language, but so what?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1847085] So how do you account for the "es" that is dropped at the beginning of "estas"? As I said it is an informal dialect aka improper Spanish. That is not taught at schools. You will not see that written in a book nor on the evening news. It is a part of being uneducated.[/QUOTE]In linguistics, elision or deletion is the omission of one or more sounds (such as a vowel, a consonant, or a whole syllable) in a word or phrase. Sometimes sounds are elided to make a word easier to pronounce. The word elision is frequently used in linguistic description of living languages, and deletion is often used in historical linguistics for a historical sound change.

In French, elision is mandatory in certain contexts, as in the clause c'est la vie (elided from *Ce est la vie).

In Spanish, elision occurs less frequently but is common in certain dialects. It is never marked by an apostrophe in writing. Of particular interest is the word para, which becomes pa. Multiple words can be elided together, as in pa trabajar for para trabajar and pa delante or even pa lante for para adelante.

From Wikipedia.

In the example you give of "como ta" for "como estas", the e vowel is elided as the tongue moves forward from the position in the o sound to its position behind the upper front teeth for the t sound. If you say "como eta" quickly, the e sound is hardly heard at all, so it is convenient to slide over it, Professor E.

[QUOTE]My point was that Professor Tamponcorto didn't offer up any useful information when it came to improving my Spanish.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1847076]I told you how to tell if a noun ending in 'o' is masculine or feminine, so that should help your Spanish a lot. Also how to use 'adentro'.[/QUOTE]You referenced my post but I didn't mention you at all. Furthermore you didn't add any new information. So what was the purpose of your post? Were you just trying to make yourself feel good again Professor Frannie? Were you feeling left out of the praise?

I'll help you out with a little feel good praise and some constructive criticism. I appreciate your Spanish instruction also Professor Frannie. But your presentation sucks so your lesson often gets lost in your within the depths of your pedantic style of writing.

Continuing to LMFAO at you!

You can get a HIV blood test from any reputable lab in the Dominican Republic for 200 to 400 pesos and get the results the next day. In fact you can get an entire STD screening from 1800 - 2500 pesos depending upon the lab. But that will take three days because that's how long the culture for Chlamydia takes to grow and provide a result. Best part about it. Once you see a doctor and receive the lab order you can pick up the results, read them, and decide for yourself if you need to return for treatment.

Oh, I forgot to mention you will get your results in Spanish. If you are like me and you don't really have a good command of the language, you might want to seek out assistance from one of the many Spanish Professors available here on the board. LOL.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1846957]An individual who is sincerely interested in helping someone with their language skills corrects the individual. You and Professor Frannie are simply interested in parading your knowledge with a tone of superiority within your posts. You are both probably the type of people that make fun of individuals for whom English is not their first language.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I am not here to help improve anyone else, financially, spiritually, morally let alone linguistically. I only commented because, if there are others who would like to learn Spanish, reading your posts, they would be get wrong cues. The reason has been ably explained by Mr. E.

As far as superiority, it would be hard for me to comment but I sure find it amusing to read people whose first language IS English. Granted, this is not the forum that discusses The Economist articles.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1847880]Unfortunately I am not here to help improve anyone else, financially, spiritually, morally let alone linguistically. I only commented because, if there are others who would like to learn Spanish, reading your posts, they would be get wrong cues. The reason has been ably explained by Mr. E.

As far as superiority, it would be hard for me to comment but I sure find it amusing to read people whose first language IS English. Granted, this is not the forum that discusses The Economist articles.[/QUOTE]For those of you who do not know, English is not Tempoecorto's first language.

[QUOTE]An individual who is sincerely interested in helping someone with their language skills corrects the individual. You and Professor Frannie are simply interested in parading your knowledge with a tone of superiority within your posts. You are both probably the type of people that make fun of individuals for whom English is not their first language. [/QUOTE]I post here mainly for the benefit of people reading who want accurate information about traveling to the Dominican Republic, meeting women there, learning to speak Spanish, and so on. If you are posting something on a discussion board that can be read by anyone anywhere in the world, then whatever you post becomes of general interest.

You posted what you though was a Spanish phrase that contained some errors. By doing this you showed that many beginners in Spanish have a hard time knowing whether a noun ending in 'o' takes the masculine or feminine form for article and adjectival agreement. I wrote down a simple explanation of which nouns ending in 'o' are feminine (very few indeed, and 'la mano' is the only one your really need to know.). You did not know that. Now you do. But more importantly, anyone reading this will have the same information and they will not go to the DR believing that 'la toto' is the Spanish for 'pussy'.

As far as me writing in a 'pedantic' fashion, I am writing for people all over the world, some of whom may not speak English as a first language (like Tempoecorto!) It just makes sense to try to write as clearly and unambiguously as possible. If I were to try to write in my native dialect, it would be hard for most people to understand, and anyway there would be no need for it. But here is a sample:

Along wi three friends fra t'dialect class.

Ah wor gi'en a lift t'other Monda'.

But t'step wor too 'igh, an' Ah really did try.

Ah thowt Ah weant ger in 'ere till nex' Sunda'.

Mi skirt wor too tight, an' try as Ah might.

Ah just cudn't get mi leg ovver.

Bert wor reight gud, an' 'e gev mi a shove.

But Ah caused 'I'm a fair bit o' bother.

The above contains a number of linguistic features that will be of interest to some readers like Professor E.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1844761]These dominican dudes tried to hustle me at the car wash.
( . . . )
[/QUOTE]That reminds me of that '70's movie Carwash ([URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074281/?ref_=nv_sr_1[/URL]).

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1847880]Unfortunately I am not here to help improve anyone else, financially, spiritually, morally let alone linguistically.[/QUOTE]Yes, that was what I thought. It was the point of my earlier post. But it was good to hear it directly from you. Thank you Professor Tamponecorto.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1848223]But more importantly, anyone reading this will have the same information and they will not go to the DR believing that 'la toto' is the Spanish for 'pussy'.[/QUOTE]Professor Frannie,

Toto is indeed a masculine noun meaning "female genitalia". It is considered vulgar language. And you would not use the world in polite company. So you would indeed interpret the word to mean "pussy". Now I when I wrote "la toto", I was trying to say "the pussy". So I should have wrote, "el pussy". But if I had of wrote "toto" for "pussy", it would have been correct.

Like I said before I'm here to kick knowledge. If my knowledge is incorrect, correct me. Don't just keep repeating yourself trying to make your point and to make yourself feel good.

Continuing to LMFAO at you!

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1848718]Professor Frannie,

Now I when I wrote "la toto", I was trying to say "the pussy". So I should have wrote, "el pussy".

If my knowledge is incorrect, correct me.

[/QUOTE]Nope, you should have written 'del pussy' because you were trying to say 'inside the pussy' (dentro del toto).

Good luck with your studies. You will soon know how to ask for some pussy in Spanish. Alternatively you could just ask "¿ficky ficky conmigo?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917]Nope, you should have written 'del pussy' because you were trying to say 'inside the pussy' (dentro del toto).[/QUOTE]Thank you for the correction Professor Frannie.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917]Good luck with your studies.[/QUOTE]Thank you Professor Frannie.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917]Alternatively you could just ask "ficky ficky conmigo?[/QUOTE]That's Spanlish. And I'm surprised you would advocate such a poor use of language. I'll leave that for those without true ability to communicate with girls or game such as yourself.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917]You will soon know how to ask for some pussy in Spanish.[/QUOTE]I don't have to ask for pussy in Spanish or any other langusge. I know how to get into pussy without asking. Do you Professor Frannie?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917] Alternatively you could just ask "ficky ficky conmigo?[/QUOTE]Wonder how "ficky ficky" got so popular from Thailand to the DR. Idiots could not pronounce "fucky" or it came from German "Ficken"? Idle curiosity.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1848941]Wonder how "ficky ficky" got so popular from Thailand to the DR. Idiots could not pronounce "fucky" or it came from German "Ficken"? Idle curiosity.[/QUOTE]"In Hamburg, witnesses described groups of young men who followed women calling out "*****! Ficky ficky!" " (quote from recent newspaper report).

Now, in Sosua what you find are groups of young women following men calling out "Mi amor! Ficky ficky!

It just seems like we have a kind of mismatch situation going on.