Geneva

agl,

Don't get your hopes up! Not like AMS. No windows with semi clad or unclad young ladies, but loads of girls in doorways vying for trade. Sadly this does not bring the price down!

You should have no problem finding your taste though! 100 chF for 15 mins.

Still quiet on here - come on post details on Geneva!!!

I have another tale to tell, but still not found a great cabaret with all the girls stripping completely naked - please post here if you know of a great place.

I was last in "1001 nights" near the waterfront (jet d'eau) - no girls whipped everything off, but there, but some cuties going topless and being quite horny on the dancefloor. Then, two absolutely stunning blondes did a routine which didn't even go topless. Assumed they were just dancers but they soon came over for a drink. I had rejected all before but my defences were low when attacked/fondled from both sides! Asked again if I could meet them when they finished "work" at the club. No problem - this time they wanted 500chF each, but didn't want to spend that and agreed on 350chF for one of the girls.

Back at hotel, quick shower each before the action. Top kissing, I went down on her, pretty much GFE apart from the covered oral, then sex in mish and doggy. After about 45 mins passion the inevitable end - we chatted for another 30 mins and I thought I'd get a second round, but all I got was a raunchy strip while having a wank! Not bad price in Geneva I suppose for a girl of her calibre and friendliness. Alas, she is leaving Geneva soon.

Hi Guys,

I'm new here, but have really enjoyed reading your reports. I have to say I admire your dedication.

I also wanted to impart a little advice, since I haven't seen it mentioned here.

In the Cabarets all over Switzerland you have to be careful, since the girls are "employed" to sell champagne, and they have to sell as much as possible. As a result when you take a bottle with a girl you have to be sober (or as sober as you can be) since she will try and dump as much of the champagne on the floor or flower pot.
Each bottle 75cl provides on average 6 glasses, I bet most girls drink maybe 2 or 3 per bottle, the rest gets accidentally spilled, or poured simply on the floor when you are watching a show, or poured on the floor when she kisses you (a Russian favourite).

I found this out to my cost in the summer a year ago, when I had taken my shoes off, and had bare feet under the table. They got washed with champagne! I kicked up a storm, but there is really not much you can do about it.

Since then I have spent many delerious hours in cabarets watching how the girls fleece the guests, and doing my research.

Now, I have to tell you, and this is the truth. I can now pick up girls in a cabaret and get FS for free (Pay champagne yes, but no presents)! Obviously I have invested much time and money into this research, and it has worked on the last three occasions!

The trick is as such: (works best midweek;weekend are too busy)

Go to several cabarets, drink a simple beer or whisky in each, turn the girls away, but for gods sake notice them! Remember which look hot, which are pretty, which speak a language you can, which are sympathetic.

When you have visited about 4 clubs or so you will know which you want. Go back to your 1st choice, top of the list babe, and agree to buy her a cupli (small single glass bottle), get talking. Tell her you normally don't buy champagne because you are fed up seeing girls throw it on the floor, she will of course say "no I don't do that"... etc blah blah.... really push the issue, saying you "know" which champagne is good, which is bad, and that it is a waste of money if they throw it away, that you would rather spend the money on other things.

Eventually after much leg rubbing etc let her "convince you" to buy her a bottle of Moet CHF200-300 .

Demand to go separe... ie into a secluded seating area where you can watch the show but also have a fondle.

Make sure you keep reminding her that she has to drink the bottle and NOT throw it away. 6 glasses remember!

After 6 glasses of champagne most girls will be fairly well oiled, and will get frisky. She will ask you to sleep with her, for a price. This is where you hit the charm! Charm her for all you can. This is the point of sale guys and you are the salesman!

I tell them I would "love" to pleasure them, but that I have a rule of not paying for sex (ahem) and in anycase I'm outta cash!" Oh dear what can be done, how sad, blah blah blah.

I have left three clubs at 5am with a different gorgeous babe level 8 minimum in my arm. She's slightly tipsy/drunk. Let me tell you guys, when a hoe gives you a freebie, she wants her moneys worth. On one occasion I had to cancel the whole next day of meetings. I have had breakfast made for me, I have had BBBJCIMS, anal, whatever they desire, and believe me they tell you what they want! I'm pleased I can oblige!

The girls rotate clubs every month and rotate out of Switzerland every 3 months, so its easy to loose contact. As a result I shall be trying my luck again in Geneva this coming week, if anyone is there as well.

Good hunting boys!

Hope this helps. I think CHF300 on a bottle of champ, in exchange for a free presentless
shagging is ok.

Im mid 30's by the way, quite good looking, and speak 5 languages, and yes, I'm a salesman so you could say I have the gift of the gab, but, I admit I have got it wrong in the past.

Now Im chasing the holy grail, where a hoe pays me for sex!

Ok heres an update to my previous posting.

I have decided the Cabarets in Geneva are not the best place to get laid!

I followed my own advice, and trawled through about 4 cabarets. In one I was getting on very well with a young bulgarian blonde, she kept wanting to stick her tongue down my mouth for some reason. I was about to go in for the close when some clients I know walked into the bar. They took a couple of thai chicks and on spotting me came over to join me, ooops!

Anyway, it turned into a bit of a session, and I had several whiskys too many. I then had this immense feeling of guilt at being drunk in front of some clients, and with a hooker on my lap, so for some idiotic reason made my excuses and left.

I made it back to my hotel, after visiting a couple more cabarets on the way. I can't quite remember where I went, but do have visions (flashbacks) of threatening some barman for short changing me.

In any case I didn't get laid, and woke up the next morning with a stinking headache and hangover and about CHF1200 less than I started the night with.

All in all a poor outing by SwissTigr on this event.

The wifes away soon so I shall be trying my charm a bit more sober soon, and will report from the various outlying cabarets around Zurich.]

Happy Hunting Y'awl.

Last evening I went for the first time to a "salon" that exists since some years,namely: Akire, 4 rue de la Gravière, 2nd floor (022 301 98 55). No need to call before to go.

There were 3 girls, one white brazilian named Stephanie, one french and one light black. I took Stephanie: nice small girl, 27, nice small tits and a superb small round ass. She starts with a sensual massage completely nacked, then a BBBJ followed by a 69, she seems to enjoy and for the end all the different usual positions one after the others. She also likes to talk. This is the type of girl the more you visit her the better service you will have, if she likes you. Great moment .

All that for CHF 200.- Next time I'll try the french one.

Tried twice the Thai parlor at 8 Rue Pradier, 1st floor. Entry code is 0801. Phone is (I believe) 022 738 2523. Ads in la Tribune de Geneve. Claims 24/7service.

The street is on the lake-side (south-side?) of the railway station. If you leave the station by the underground passage (the one that is accessed by an escalator), as soon as you get out of the station underground shopping complex rue Pradier is on your left - it is a short cross street of the broad pedestrian street leading to the lake.

You can have full sex in decent premises (especially the bedrooms) for 100 CHF, without feeling too hurried (about 25-30 min total time). Mention your price range on arrival (they also offer more elaborate options for higher prices).

First girl was Linda (25-35 age range). Not much English or French, short, pleasantly plump Thai, slightly porcine features. She is very good at what she does, light massage leading into relaxed unhurried sex (well, relatively unhurried given the budget price offered). More of a sex toy than a conversation partner, relatively inexpressive. Probably fresh off the boat.

Second time Linda was busy (I would have gladly taken her again),so I got Paa (?). Similar body build, but overall cuter. Giggling, seems intelligent and sweet. Has a five year old son she says. Less of a "turnkey" package (whereby the punter lies back and let the Thai professional take care of everything) and more of a "give-and-take" partner (you may need to take your initiative with her). This led to some initial embarassment on my part (I am not much of a sex animal, so I need some teasing/prodding), but she handled it very well and with great poise/style. Not fresh off the boat, good English and French. I quite liked her, her conversation and her sweet/impish smile.

Overall, a very good alternative to spending 100 CHF with a SW.

There is another place on the third floor of the same building. I believe I tried it in a previous trip with satisfactory results, but I am not sure. Apparently they are not under the same management (according to Paa).

I was very satisfied with my experience. Couple more posts may follow if feedback on this one is positive.

Cheers Nano - we need all the info we can get on inexpensive punts in Geneva...keep them coming!

I had a good punt for ChF200 on rue de lausanne including covered bj with a beautiful dusky young South American lady.

What's the best cabaret/strip place in your opinion.
Are there any mixed saunas or partner swapping in the city you know of?

Hi Knight,

Regarding cabaret in Geneva, I would recommend Le Must and Bagheera since they are a little off the beaten track, behind Hotel President Wilson and near the Hotel Epsom. I'va always had fun there.

Also up in the old town there are one or two which don't get frequented much and as such you have a better time to be treated well, than in the bigger well advertised places. I know locals go there, so it can't be bad (sorry I forget the exact names of most but Ba-Ta-Clan is one).

I would however caution that all are designed to get you pay for champagne first and foremost, so the pressure will be on to spend CHF 250-400 +.

A beer in these places can cost CHF25, so its not a cheap night out!

You will get your leg rubbed by beautiful women though! And if you do have the cash to spend time talking to them there are freebies to be had. See previous posts of mine in Geneva and Zurich section.

I don't know of any saunas, however there are multiple websites like www.eroticplanet.ch which offer listings of cabarets and salons under their nightlife listings for each major Swiss Kanton.

(Genf being Geneva).

Good luck and happy hunting!

ST

Knight,

If the use of the "Tribune de Genève" is a little bit too difficult if you don't speak enough French, there is an other option: the web . There are two sites for Geneva:

www.sexyplace.ch
(on my PC the site is only visible with Internet Explorer and not well with Netscape)

at this site, most of the time, the address is mentioned, sometime with a map and also if they speak English (with a British flag). Most of these adresses are the same as those in the "Tribune de Genève". Be carefull there are also some transvestites, it is mentioned as transexuel(le) in French.

Try also:

www.*****.ch


only some mentions the adress.

When you have the adress, take a map and just go there.

Usual prices are 150 - 200 CHF for a FS with 69 and bj. Don't pay more than 200.

By the way, Cabarets in Geneve are too expensive particularly if you want to take one of the girls with you to your hotel.

ST and Lacamer, thanks for your posts. I do speak a little French and read the Tribune, but when calling the Geneva accent and my poor French sometimes makes finding the address tres difficile!

I am visiting Geneva again in the coming week so I'll try the cabarets you recommended ST. As per my earier posts, I think ChF300 for a superb model, quite a good price by Swiss standards, even if hanging around til 5am isn't great, but you can always enjoy the floorshow while you wait, and discreetly leave near the end, to await your 'business meeting'!!! I have avoided champagne sting so far, and not tried your trick for freebies which I read with interest!

I find the websites you mentioned very average, and full of very, very expensive escorts. I bought a guide to 'secret Geneva and surroundings' but it was not much use - many numbers out of date etc.

Anyone can PM me if you want to try to meet up in Geneve. Sometimes visiting cababrets is less awkward with two like-minded souls!

Just back from another business meeting out in Geneva, and I feel like a limbo dancer trying to lower the bar (price) to screw a dancer on each trip.

On this occasion I slept well before going out about 2.30am.

Went to 'Le Must' and 'Bagheera' as recommended. It was awkward in Bagheera as I 'knew' one of the girls from a previous trip. Beautiful blonde "Olga" (see below - cost me 350 ChF when I last saw her in 1001 nights) immediately recognised me and offered me the same again for 300ChF. I agreed to come back to Bagheera if we were to get it on, but professed to being tired.

I really fancied one of the other girls though, a dark haired, slightly shorter slavic looking girl with wonderful eyes and mouth and wearing a nice red dress. An American snapped her up while I was being chatted to by Olga. Decided to watch the cabaret, which was a disappointment, no pussy again, only topless, and once again Olga didn't even take off her top to reveal those gorgeously pert boobs.

The cute dark haired girl was still with the Russian who was indiscreetly trying to take her to his hotel room before the club closed and refusing to pay the bar. He was shouting "I thought paying 400 for that champagne got you for the night" - I thought welcome to Geneva buddy, but kept my counsel. He then bought her another drink and they continued talking away from the bar, my guess was he'd have to arrange a 5am rendezvous like myself.

With chances of cutting a deal with the 'lady in red' disappearing, I wandered over to Le Must, where I was promised Cabaret was continuing. After about 30 minutes one dancer went on stage and revolved around a pole before briefly removing her top - no pussy again. Damn!

All the while the 5 or 6 girls in here were trying to tap me up for a drink (inevitably). Most were generally bored and disinterested and I declined all, but one very cute large breasted Moroccan with dyed blonde streaks in her hair came back to me a second time as I finished my beer. She asked about company, and looking at my watch (about 4am) I said "maybe in an hour when I pay nothing to the club". She agreed instantly, saying she lived above the club and I could meet her by around the corner. This was a real challenge, I had Olga waiting for 300, so I went in with an opening bid of 200. She didn't look offended at all, but came back with 300. I casually shook my head, and made to get up, and she came back with 250. I agreed and thought I'd done well.

With an hour to kill I wandered back toward centre of town and checked out Monthoux Cabaret on Rue de Monthoux - poor quality girls in here this time, so immediately made my excuses and left, heading back across to Rue de Fribourg and the cabaret merely called "Nightclub" about 5 doors from the end of the street where it meets Rue de Monthoux. Hardly any blokes in here at this time and I had about 9-10 girls eyeing me up. Only four were acceptable to me at first glance - two white girls talking to a guy at the far corner of bar and two slightly coloured girls in a group of 4 chicks near the dancefloor.

As I ordered my drink one of the young halfcaste girls came over to talk. She was a tall, great face (though slightly crooked teeth) and a pleasant body with huge tits and therefore slightly larger than my usual preference, but she proved they were real as she whipped them out at the bar. She was Moroccan and we were soon chatting about my visits to her country - she was impressed and we were getting along real well. I refused to buy her a drink, so she said she had to go, by now it was about 4.30, so I said I'd pay her more to see her at 5am in her apartment. She immediately agreed and with 250ChF to beat I went for 200. She said no and asked for 300, but I stood firm, thinking for 250 I'd probably have preferred the previous blonde Moroccan at Le Must. I was soon having my cock massaged through my jeans, and after a bit of kissing (still no drink) she agreed to meet me outside. I finished my drink and left and with 15 minutes to kill I went for a snack and then wandered around the red light area for a while. I was just walking back towards the club at 4.58 when I heard "pas de personne" and laughter from one of a group of girls. Then more laughter as she recognised me and we walked to her home with one girl disappearing and another friend staying with her. Ironically we walked all the way back past Bagheera with me desperately hoping we didn't bump into Olga or the other Moroccan from nearby Le Must. Thankfully not, and we reached her studio flat, and it turned out that both 18 year olds shared the flat, sleeping together. That put a dampener on my mood as I know Moroccans can be quite reserved with friends around, and as second girl was waiting in the bathroom while we did the deed I thought I'd feel rushed, but thought for 200ChF what the hell. She was about 5'9" and had such a firm body for a tall and ample girl. It was great exploring. She was trying to rush me a bit and refused OWO, but I prolonged things with more covered oral and DATY (reverse oral) before shagging to a conclusion in various positions. Then massaged her as a treat for her and at the end of this started fingering her again, and slipped a finger into her ass. Not as GFE as previous reports, but worth the money. When finished her friend was told we'd finished and popped in as I was getting dressed. She looked even cuter in the light, very small, slim and pretty. The first girl asked if it was OK and I said yes, but over too soon. Pointed to the erection in my shorts after fingering her again and said 'look how you've left me". She laughed and said "again for 200". I offered 100, but chucked in hopefully "200 pour les deux". A frantic Arabic discussion took place in the bathroom, leaving me at a language loss! Then the second smaller girl came in and started stripping. What a treat. Both chicks starkers in bed, and the first girl frantically started sucking me as I played with the second girl. She seemed a little reluctant at first but I was soon DATY and she had juices flowing. Gorgeous pert titties and decent kissing. Lasted about 30 minutes before shagging while having my anus tickled and fingering the second girl brought the obvious shudddering conclusion.

So two new challenges to beat. 200ChF for a dancer, and 400ChF for two shots, one with a 2-girl. Overall a very VFM 90 minutes considering this is Switzerland. Mind you in Morocco, or Russia where most of these girls are from I could have two whole nights of shagging for that! I now look forward to my Swiss business meetings with slightly more enthusiasm knowing I can still shag without losing my wallet. Why does anyone buy champagne at 400-1000 ChF?!!!

By the way all girls would have come to my hotel had I stayed in the centre, but as I was a good taxi ride away I asked to go to their apartments.

One thing I still search in vain for is a good cabaret with plenty of pussy being shown. Next time I try BaTaClan, and maybe some others. Let me know if you equal or beat that price.

theknight,

Well done, excellent report, good skills!

I calculate you spent 400 in total for a double shot with double act, and .....that's value for money in Swizterland!!

It certainly pays to go to cabarets late, as you have found out, it also pays to take in a couple of spots and return, rather than stay in one spot and let yourself be fleeced by the bars for champagne.

I heard from one cabaret owner that Swiss men tend to "expect" to "finger fuck" the girls at the bar in return for a piccolo (CHF45).
I didn't have the heart to tell him that if I had my way, all WSG members will be "full fucking" the girls after hours in return for merely "a beer" (CHF 10) ...if he's lucky!

Like you, I have a problem of being recognised by certain girls now, once being by a gorgeous one I had shagged 6 mths earlier, we "remet" whilst I was on a plane to Moscow from Zurich. I knew her, she knew me, I knew she knew, and she knew I knew, but thankfully she had the grace to keep quiet.

Needless to say, life can be great sometimes, and Switzerland, if you know what you should be doing, is not that bad after all.

By the way, very few if any cabarets do full nude shows. If they do then its a "whip off the panties as you turn to walk off the stage" type of thing, which doesn't count in my book. I have only ever seen one place in Kanton Schwyz that does full nude, never in Geneva.

If you drink champagne with a girl demand to go "separe"... you can almost fuck her in some places in the dark (its been done ;-)) and she will give you a private strip show often as an enticement to "go upstairs" with her later, no need to pay extra! If you can "work her up" enough whilst in "separe" thats when you also have a better chance of closing the freebie pitch! If you are clever with the timing and champagne, often thats a CHF250 outlay.

laters
ST

Finally some great reports on Geneva, a place I visit once in a while. Any indications on which clubs / places / bars to go to where African girls hang out?

Or is there any black street scene in and around Geneva?

SwissTiger, there seems to be a dearth of real hot strip shows in Geneva, should this suggest that a joint venture should be envisaged? Write private mail if interested?

Afro,

"real hot strip shows" in Geneva... lol, sadly not, or none that I have come across.

The word "hot" of course being defined differently by each individual man. I don't mind drinking beer or whisky whilst watching a model quality Blonde undress, but that might not be your idea of heaven.

The "steet scene" in Geneva (as far as I can tell) is made up from a "majority" of Black and North African Girls. Try the red light district after 10pm through till about 2pm. You will get the offers.

The cabarets almost exclusively cater to the European male, with Russian, Ukranian, Bulgarian, Hungarian and Czech girls, in the majority, and only then will come a smattering of Caribbean girls, mostly from Santa Domingo. You will also get the odd Moroccan and Nth African girl, and finally Asian and these are mainly also in the red light district.

Geneva has the largest Black population of any Swiss city, and there are bars and discos etc for sure that cater to the "Afro taste", but I don't know of any "exclusive" strip joints for Black African girls, sorry, but that does not mean there aren't any.

If you want "up market", look at the pictures outside the cabarets, they will give you an indication of the girls working in there, almost all are genuine photos. There are some that are mainly Black, or specialise in Black, and again I would suggest they are mainly in the red light district.

If you are happy to mingle with the Moroccan crowd, then also the "pot shops" in the red light district will help you out, and they may give you a few hints. But be careful of the French Nth African dealers, they're around alot there too.

I have to be honest, I only go over to Geneva once every so often, Im based in Zurich. Also the Black scene is not really me, since my boat is floated by blondes mostly (as you may tell from my posts ;-)). But by all means let me know when you will be over next and if we co-incide then I would be more than happy to meet you for a few chilled beers and point you in the right directions.

I have stepped into some bars where the girls have all been black african, but all the bars/cabarets have a high turnover of girls working in monthly rotations, so some months you might get really lucky, and some others you might not.

As to massage parlours, yes again there are a few with black girls, and I recommend you have a look through some of the websites mentioned in earlier posts by a few members to find out which ones you fancy. I can't recommend any personally, since I haven't been to any, but apparently they can be good.

I certainly won't be over there until late January at the earliest, stay in touch.

Have a good one

ST

Got back recently from another, slightly longer trip to Geneva.

The guys I were with insisted on going out a lot, or drinking at hotel bar, so mongering was very limited.

Did manage a good salon visit at 25 Rue de Fribourg. Excellent session for 200ChF. Covered BJ, DATY, sex various positions - and two shots for the price, which I was told by the Brazilian girl I saw wasn't usually allowed!

The highlight though was chatting up a Russian girl in cabaret. She was working in BaTaClan, which is a cabaret like all the others, in the old part of town. Briefly, gorgeous, dark hair with blonde streaks. Tall, about 5 feet 10 inches - about 1m70 I guess? Perfect skin, and body with great curves while being fairly slim.

Actually brushed off another 4 girls in there, and got abuse from one, before succumbing to Natasha! Bought a piccolo and chatted about all sorts of things, but not sex. Anyway, she was being hurried along by management because I was buying no more drinks. She asked me if we could meet later - I said yes and she said 500! I laughed, pretended I hadn't done this before and said no-way. She said she'd really like to see me again and asked for 400. I said I may have 200 in cash, she said get another 100 from cash machine and she'd come to my hotel.

I left, ate, then came back and met her a block away from club. Natasha became defensive and told me to go to my hotel alone and she would follow. She claimed some people from the club know people at this hotel and she couldn't go in with me! I didn't believe her and went back to hotel alone, but with cash intact. Got shower before retiring to bed, and full 15 minutes after arriving at my room there was a tiny, timid, knock at my door. Natasha was there in her sexy, long, tight jeans and low cut, figure hugging top, looking sensational! I had a towel around me!

We chatted some more, she smoked and we both drank - expensive mini bar drinks! I was aware time was pressing on (now about 6am) but we got on really well. Eventually her hands went wandering- my erection was pretty obvious under a thin towel! She stripped and we had some extremely horny sex right through til 8.30am when we went for breakfast! She started with condom for oral, but on the third round she dispensed with it and that's when I knew we really had genuinely 'clicked'.

After breakfast another quick BBBJ for me, then she dressed and left after shower, and it was 10.15! She DID take the money, which I'd left on the table in my room.

I had her phone number and fell asleep for an hour before a business lunch at midday! Natasha sent me nice SMS later, as I went for dinner. That night she came to my hotel after finishing at BaTaClan. We had similar time (minibar bill very high!!), and another horny night. Sunday was her day off and we managed to spend some nice time together, and she refused to let me buy her a top she saw in H&M. My flight back was on the Tuesday, and unfortunately Natasha left Geneva the next Sunday, going to Fribourg for a month. Then her visa runs out and she has to fly home. she still sends me SMS now, two weeks later. I have great memories, just a shame we may never meet again.