Phuket Reports

Patong Rocks,

I think that Patong is far better than BKK of Pattaya. Cleaner, fresh air, nice beach and 5000 Darlings ready to make you happy.

There are a few things like S & M clubs, a big range of soapies,
and more upscale resturants that BKK and Pattaya have but I would say those are more than replaced with Patong. The entire island of Phuket is much better.

If you are looking info or are headed there for the first time or going back looking for somethings they missed last time put it up or pm me. I'm sort of a part time resident as I'm there every ther month with a few days in BKK on endf each trip.
BTW! There are a number of boards out there on Phuket/Patong specifically but most are run by people who use them to promote their business and one board is run by some jerk off moron who gives out bad info. The cast of crooks include a bar owner, vacation rental owner, Soi owner ( strip of beer bars) and the usual advertorial type catchments.

I will tell you know that I often don't follow my own advice but I have my niches and my places I like to go so I may not recommend my haunts or likes.

I find the girls are less crass. Yes, Pattaya appear to have more stunners and go go's but I would say the ration for Darling to Dog is about the same.

Post'em or PM and I would love to help you love the town I love.

A guy who has some cool photos is www.phuketbob.com

good maps are at www.phuket-maps.com

cheap rooms are at www.latestays.com (as is with other spots)

http://forum.thaivisa.com/ has a section on Phuket that is good

There is ample shopping with a Big C, Tesco Lotus, and a big mall that is really new, just a few weeks.

Is it more expensive, can be but that has an up side IMHO. You don't see alot of low end trash travelers bringing down the economy and they say that is due to the cost of air travel etc.
I hate Farang Beggars and amature Farang hookers trying to make money to get home!

Love to share info and would like to learn a few things myself!

I will check the board while on the move.

Also there is zero problems with the coppers! Late closings are common for those who want to booze it up all night but I would say half the sanukers are holed up with a Darling before 2am!

Just got back from my 1st tour of duty. What an experience! The only disappointing thing is I met my dream girl my last two days there. If I had met her earlier, I would've stayed with her the whole time. I mean this girl was my absolute dream girl, model quality, sweet, happy, fun...a total joy to be with. The kind of girl that makes you feel happier even if you weren't sad to begin with. Yes, she was THAT awesome. I wish I could bring her here to the US, but that would be expensive, time consuming, and risky. While I had the best time ever, it was only two days. I still know little of her history and if her story is true or not.

She did ask the usual, "send me money and I won't do this [working girl job]." Hmm, sure I thought. Only until the next customer comes along and sweeps her off her feet. Really, though, she was not the usual common working girl. She was really sweet and considerate. She really doesn't belong in this business. I could see her working with kids or as a nurse, not as a freelancer.

Oh well, life goes on and so must I. She was only a short term fantasy come true. Now that I've lived my fantasy, I must go on. No more mongering or Thailand from here on. If this continues I'll never get married and won't be able to concentrate on the important, realistic matters of life. Remember fellas, this life of hunting pussy, is just temporary satisfaction...and it's wrong. We all deserve better than to pay for pussy. For me, I want a wife, not a hole in my financial pocket and some STD of unknown origin. Because thats exactly what this will be if I continue. Broke and diseased.

There s more to life than that. Later days, fellas.

Ouch Me,
I hear ya, brother. And I know where you're coming from. And I've been there myself. All of us are at some stage of growth, having come from somewhere, being somewhere, and heading somewhere.

But, I gotta tell ya: Marriage is THE most expensive option around. Trust me. And not only in terms of money. Time and opportunity. Your life is not yours anymore! However, I'm not going to discourage you from the ideals you set forth.

I have many of the same moral struggles, but "at the end of the day", I LOVE being with a variety of women and experiencing them in all their mysterious holds on us.

Being mindful of the forum and its purpose, I don't want to start a philosophical or ethical online conversation. But anyone who wants to engage in such can send me a Private Message and I'll reply (in time...I'm extremely busy).

Y'all do the best and be the best you can out there. And look for detailed reports from me soon (arriving Phuket October 1 for 3 days).

I say this - we all want bliss but you can't just go out there and get it. If we could, we would not P4P and we would not be here on this forum. For the lucky few who have got this, they are indeed lucky.

Reality check: Marriage is not a big deal and it is overrated. Just look at the statistics.

I like selective P4P with my feet on the ground. With selective P4P, it is possible to have fantastic experiences for years and years. The euphoria of marriage, for most, lasts no more than one year.

Just MHO.

Cheers.

Ouch me,

you wrote: "She really doesn't belong in this business."

Be careful! Wake up! Blindness always starts like this.

Girls which are working in that business know what they are doing. They also know what impact that decision has on their own lifes. They made this decision and they have chosen a relatively easy way of making money, whatever story they have in the background (take care of baby, mother, father, water buffolo).

That girl has learnt how to make money in that business. And if she is so awesome and cute - it is even possible for her to select customers, and will not have to go with the "old fat ugly farang sex tourist". She then can combine her own entertainment and sexual desires with making money - and then job is not that bad then!

It normally doesn't work to send money, one or two months, and then the girls get bored and return to their business for various reasons, not only because they want more money.

Some simply get horny, and miss good "farang service"...


Giotto

Giotto,

Please don't interpret this is a flame, I like your posts, usually very informative

But anyone who thinks that thai hookers fuck because they are horny dosn't know much about (a) hookers and (b) women in general

Unless they are naive teenagers, women never give it away and always have some sort of agenda

Without this imperative, the human race would have died out in the cave man days!

Happy trails,

Butts

[b]Freebie at Christin's Massage[/b]

So I'm sitting in Christin's Massage having a non-alcoholic beverage, just relaxing and killing some time one rainly late afternoon. I don't find most of the ladies behind the glass particularly appealing and I prefer the night scene at Tiger Entertainment, Soi Bangla, etc.

So, as I'm sitting at the table, an Asian gentleman from Hong Kong asks if may join me. I say sure, he sits down and we talk for a while. He was a friendly business professional, recently divorced, and he treated me to a drink the next round.

After talking for a while, he says to me (glancing towards the fish bowl), "So have you decided which one you want? I explained to him that I really wasn't interested in them or looking really. He said, "Are you sure? I'll buy for you."

While I thought this was a generous offer, I initially declined. I mean buying me a drink or two is one thing, but paying 2700 Baht for me to get a freebie? I had to admit, I felt guilty and declined. He insisted it was okay and not that big a deal, so finally, I said sure. We each picked one, and he went to the cashier and paid for both with his credit card. The four of us took the elevator upstairs, picked our own rooms, and then met downstairs in the bar area again afterwards.

The following day was his last day in Phuket, and he wanted to know if I'd be willing to meet him again for another, same time tomorow. I figured why not, and went back, and again, he treated me again.

So, two days in a row I got a free Soapy at Christin's Massage.

[b]How much to tip at Christin's Massage?[/b]

Given my two freebies below, after the "massage", the lady asked, "Do you have something for me?" She said the norm was to tip 500 Baht.

Having no idea if this was the case or not, I simply tipped 500 Baht. Afterall, I got all of this for free.

How much should one tip at Christin's Massage? If 500 Baht the right amount? Or is this overly excessive after paying (or having someone else paying) 2700 Baht to the house.

Mr Butts,

I don't remember that I wrote that Thai hookers fuck because they are horny.

Thai hookers are women, too. If they stop working, if they are financially supported from somebody in a foreign country and they have to wait for months until the farang "boyfriend" comes back - it can happen that the get horny and look for some "nightly entertainment".

Do you think a Thai hooker can switch off the natual signals of her body?


Giotto

Hamilton W,

For the 3200 bahts paid out you could have had 2 girls. IMHO the cost was way to high. But of course you had a freebie.

As a tip for good service you could have given 200 bahts. i.e since you asked for an opinion.

A buddy and I are interested in going diving. We want to find out if we can charter a nice boat, 60 -70 feet or so, probably out of Ranong, and go up to the Burma banks. We are looking for 2 other mongers interested in same. (scuba divers please). The plan would be to grab 6 to 8 girls for the trip, and divide our time between scuba diving, and muff diving. Girls would be there to be shared by all, (except the captain).

We are thinking 1 week, beer, tequila, or the poison of your choice, and lots of sex. The girls would have to be naked at all times.

So, a couple of questions.

Do any of you know who we can contact to find a boat which would be able to handle 4 guys and 8 girls, and also a boat where the crew would be able to handle the debauchery which would ensue?

We need 2 more guys. We are in our mid forties, and are looking for same. We are thinking about doing this in February. Costs would be shared equally. We figure the girls would cost about 50,000 Baht for all of them for the week (1,000 each per day), and don’t really have a handle on the cost of the boat. Any suggestions appreciated.

1ball,

I hate to rain on your fantasy because it's a pretty good one.

But IMHO, you haven't got a hope in hell of diving in the Burma Banks with a boatload of Thai hookers. I've been diving up there and there are very strict rules regarding what you can and cannot do and who's even allowed there.

In order to go anywhere in the Mergui Archepelago (aka, the Burma Banks) you will have to have an agent of the Burmese police on board your boat at all times. These guys report to the Burmese govt. directly and tend to take their jobs seriously. They can be a bit of a downer on an otherwise nice trip. Also you have to pay for them; about 2,000 baht per day. Each person on the boat has to pay 4,500 baht plus a one-time $100 visa and there's a boat fee which is quite steep. You have to go to Yangon to file the paper-work and pay the fees for the boat including filing your proposed course. Each crew member has to be paid for at about $20 each for a visa and 20 copies of all the paper-work involved, including crew and passenger lists has to be completed and sent to Yangon for approval. Just imagine trying to get a list with the names of a load of Thai women approved by the Burmese. And, they have to be naked? You'd be busted and end up in a Burmese jail before you knew what happened.

The main things is that there are only a limited number of liveaboard companies that are even allowed there in the first place. They're all foreign owned and run. They tend to be family businesses (such as Southeast Asia Liveaboards and FarawaySail and Dive Expeditions) and I doubt if they would ever consider such a thing. Not just anyone with a sailboat can go up there whenever they feel like it. The Burmese periodically stop unauthorized boats. When I was sailing up there, we constantly saw police patrol boats, especially between Kawtung (Victoria Point Harbour) and King Island.

So, I just don't think you could pull it off. Although there is a general tendency to believe, among many that you can buy your way into just about anything in the part of the world, I doubt if you could in this instance.

Ok. So having said all that, an alternative to consider is going the other way. There are some freelance sailboats that sail between Phuket and Penang and go out to the Similan Islands. For example, there's a French guy ( I don't remember his name) based in Penang, Malaysia who has a 47 ft. sloop that he offers out at around $100 per person per day. I know there are others, as well, as I've seen posters advertising custom excursions in both Phuket and Penang.

Fun idea, though.

OTH

1ball,

If you're talking about a week sometime after the superbowl, I'm in.

I may have a lead on boats.

Burma Banks sound good, how about the Similans as well ?

FD

FD, somehow, i knew I'd hear from you on this one.

Never having watched a football game in my life, I have no clue when the superbowl is. I'm sure you could watch it in Phuket, or some little bar in the Burma Banks. Bring your own Cheetos.

We can be flexible on dates, just don't want to wait until rainy season.

i think the tricky part will be to find a crew which is oblivious to the type of dive briefings I plan on having :)

Let's go to PM to discuss your leads on boats. I have dove the Similans and the Banks, they are both good. To me, the further North, the better. (less crowds), and better vis.

If it turns into something good, it could turn into the first annual WSG dive-athon.

OTH, you have a point. on the other hand, i was on a boat 3 years ago in Mergui. We crossed from Ranong into Kwatong, (immigration is a tiny little island in the middle of the water), we got our passports stamped there, anf we were off. I forget the name of the dive operation, but the boat was the Amadeus, and the owner was Austrian. There were no cops or army on board, and I think he would be game for it.

Maybe things have changed. Hell, I don't care, we can hang around Richelieu for a week.

Don't want a French captain, but if you know of others, can you PM me a couple of them please? Thanks