Minsk

[QUOTE=Prosal;1273058]Some 15€ entrance and 9€ for a beer isn't cheap, for a country where the average wage has decreased to 135us$ after the two recent brutal devaluations. How a non-sponsored girl can afford to frequent this place?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is like high-order differential equations. Difficult to find exact solution. Yes numbers are not fitting but there is a reality.

Interestingly this place is very popular among the girls. For me, that place is crap, unnecessary expensive.

Aprox. All girls are gold diggers, prostitutes, (yes there might be some frendly girls but they are negligible.). They are basically searching a rich Russian guy who come to minsk regularly for casinos. You are telling that entrance 15 EUR. If you see that girls, all of them have brand new iphone 4Gs, nice expensive handbags. You may think that they are richer than you, maybe it is.

So again, if you have good amount of money to spend girls, prostitutes I mean, and unnecessarily expensive booze, that place is nice spot to find nice good looking girls, and expensive booze.)

Privet from Minsk!

Having flown 10, 000 km from Western Canada I arrived at Minsk-2 last week, the airport in the capital of the Belarus, my favorite mongering destination. The first few days I spent meeting with Belarusian friends, registering with the police and attempting to adjust to the 9-hour time difference which proved daunting. However, it was great to be back in Minsk and I quickly re-introduced myself to the city. Now, at the end of my first week of a month long sojourn, I have something to report.

The first woman I met in Minsk was Keyt, the beautiful 21-year studentka I sponsored last fall during my first visit to Belarus. She met me for lunch at Boulevard Cafe and brought me a sim card with enough credits to last me my entire stay. I presented her a bottle of Versace 'Bright Crystal' perfume that was recommended I buy as a gift by a sexy Russian girl I knew in Canada. Keyt was pleased and after dinner we went for a walk on Karl Marx Avenue. As we walked I allowed her to wander ahead of me a few times and admired her. Keyt has that perfect blend of tall, lean figure coupled with a wonderfully round ass. As we walked she told me how she was invited to a friend's birthday party at the exclusive Dozari night club that weekend but was worried she could not go as she had no money. I took the hint. I asked her how much she needed and she retorted immediately '100 USD'. I told her I had the money at my flat on Lenin Street and if she accompanied me there I would get it for her. She took the hint. A few hours later, with a crisp Ben Franklin placed in her hand bag, Keyt asked me, in her slightly British accent, if I was going to date any other girls while I was in Minsk. I kissed her shoulder her and reassured her she was the only girl for me. She smiled, wiggled her perfect ass into my groin and fell asleep for a few hours.

The next day I met Anya, an 18-year old who studied something or other at BSU. I say something or other as I soon discovered she could barely speak English. Actually, it wasn't English but rather Russ-English and through hand gestures, smiles and broken words I tried to have a conversation with her at My English Granny Cafe. I soon discovered it would be impossible to attempt discussing sponsorship with her. When I asked her how it was she had been speaking with me in English on the internet site we met on and later vkontakte for the previous three weeks, 'Google translator' was what she said through her perfect smile. Still, she had a pretty face, lovely eyes and a wonderful rack hidden under a tight fitted, black turtle neck. I told her I would send her an email on vkontakte when I got back to my flat and did so detailing how I was attracted to her and wanted to sponsor her. She immediately asked me for 1. 5 million BYR (185 USD) to buy a pair of shoes she said were 'haunting her in her dreams'. I thought the price steep for Minsk standards but I was admittedly charmed by her request and her beautiful little body. I agreed and within an hour she was strutting naked in my flat. Anya was the perfect mix of confidence and passiveness I prefer in a lover. Her breasts were unstoppable. Afterwards I asked her, through Google translator on my laptop, what she needed the shoes for. She said she was going to a birthday party the following night at Dozari night club. I stopped myself from laughing out loud and patted her pretty head. I wondered if she and Keyt were going to the same party.

Anyway, I have three weeks left in Minsk and some girls lined up for the weekend. I will report Monday on this weekend's activity!

Hi Danish Traveler and canadianboy.

You guys have lots of experience about Minsk.

Can you please tell me which is the main street and shopping mall to meet beautiful students or girls?

Thanks,

Naykan

[QUOTE=Naykan; 1273629]Hi Danish Traveler and canadianboy.

You guys have lots of experience about Minsk.

Can you please tell me which is the main street and shopping mall to meet beautiful students or girls?

Thanks,

Naykan[/QUOTE]Any street on Minsk is a great street! Seriously, I can name 10 that have hotties walking on them all afternoon and evening. Off the top of my head, Lenin, Pobedetely, Nezavisimosti, Karl Marx, Nemiga, etc. I was sitting at Boulevard Cafe this evening on the balcony and in 40 minutes I counted 40 girls I would like to get to know better and that is on Engels street, I think. As for malls, I am not so sure. I have been to many malls in Minsk and they are hit and miss depending on the time of the day. Capital Mall in the city center is not a great mall but there is a lot of traffic going through it plus there is a large walking and sitting area around Independence Square which attracts a lot of people. My favorite mall is Bigz Mall and I know a few studentka's who love Europa Mall. I prefer to take a sponsor there and buy her something nice rather than hunt. However, all the power to you! Let us know how you make out.

Friday night I was supposed to meet with a studentka I made contact with off of vkontakte in early March. Liza is a tall, pretty young woman with olive colored skin and a wonderful set of thick lips. She made it very clear to me that she was interested in being sponsored but that nothing would happen between us until she felt comfortable with me. The fact she was a real Belarusian beauty off about 19-years was enough to convince me to be patient and show her a good time. That coupled with a much anticipated Saturday afternoon appointment at my flat with another studentka named Masha I had met off vkontakte was enough to convince me to wait. We were suppose to meet outside of Hotel Europa and take a taxi to Black Door Club. However, Liza sent me an SMS asking me to reschedule for Sunday as she had a plethora of school work to finish. I told her it was no problem but if she was serious about my sponsoring her we would most certainly have to meet on Sunday.

Instead, I went for a walk along Nezavisimosti Avenue when I decided to stop at a cafe behind St. Simeon and St. Helen Roman Catholic Church or, better known as the 'Red Church'. It was hot and I was craving a cold scotch and soda. Keyt had brought me to this cafe last fall when I first visited Minsk. I sat down and the waitress, a young, pretty woman in a short skirt and fishnet stockings came to my table. To my surprise she spoke English quite well and I ordered. After a few minutes she appeared with the drink.

'What's your name? '

'Diana'

'Are you a student? '

'Yes'

'What do you study? '

'I am at BSU'

'OK'

'You are from America? '

'Yes, I'm Canadian'

Diana had black hair, blue eyes and a nice smile for any time of day.

'Diana, do you have a boyfriend'

'A boyfriend? '

'Yes'

'Sort of, I guess' She said, turning her head to look at a group of youths passing by.

'That's a shame. You're very pretty'

'Well, we are not together now'

'I would like to buy you dinner at Grand Cafe sometime'

'OK'

'Have you been to Grand Cafe? '

'No, but I would like'

I asked for the bill and wrote my number on it. I was careful to leave a generous tip.

'Send me an SMS, Diana'

'You will take me to Grand Cafe? '

'If you want'

'I do' she smiled.

'OK'

I walked home enjoying how the scotch took me and thought about my vist from Masha the following afternoon.

I had an appointment with Masha early Saturday afternoon at my flat on Lenin. Masha was an 18-year old I had met off of vkontakte. At first I thought she was 21 or 22 but she assured me she was 18. Masha could barely speak a word of English but after sending numerous emails to each other using Google translator and over vkontakte we decided upon a two hour visit at my flat. Originally we agreed upon 100 USD for two hours – a wonderful rate considering how sexy she looked in her pictures. However, I made an error when asking if she wanted to be paid in American or Belarusian currency and she suddenly demanded 1 million BYR, which works out to be 125 USD. As I was eager to meet her and begin regular visits from her, I did not haggle and figured 125 USD would be well worth it if she were as attractive in person as her pictures. We agreed to meet at 14:00 in front of Grand Cafe.

At about 13:00 I was sitting on my couch reading 'The Maltese Falcon' by Dashiell Hammett when my mobile began to buzz. It was Masha.

'Hello? '

'Privet! Masha, Masha! ' was all she said. I laughed.

'Masha, are you at Grand Cafe? '

'Da, Grand Cafe! '

'OK'

I quickly got dressed, sprayed myself with Chanel 'Allure' and raced down to Grand Cafe. I found Masha standing in the shade sipping from a bottle of Bonaqua. She looked sexy in her tight blue jeans, black tank top and black heels. In heels she was about 176 cm tall and had a wonderful round ass.

'Privet! ' – 'Privet! '

'Welcome to Belarus' she said.

We got to into my flat and we spoke through Google translator on my laptop. She told me she loved my flat and thought I looked much younger than 38-years. She also said her parents were divorced and she lived with her mother and sister. I had seen pictures of her sister on vkontakte and she was equally as pretty as Masha.

I counted twenty 50, 000 blue BYR notes and Masha went to shower. 5-minutes later she bounced into my bedroom wearing nothing but black, g-string underwear and an honest smile. Masha did not disappoint and proved a hard worker. Her beautiful young lean body kept me entertained for the next two hours.

Afterwards we decided we enjoyed our time together and agreed to meet later that week. I asked her if she had any other sponsors and she replied she did not and didn't even have a boyfriend, to my surprise. When I told her she could be truthful with me as it would not change my wanting to meet with her she reassured me this was her first time with a sponsor. Admittedly I was pleased.

Later that night I got a message on vkontakte from her.

'It was nice meeting you today'

'You too' I replied.

I went to sleep that night thinking about my meeting with Liza the following day.

Gents,

Another place, just to warn you.

[B]Welcome[/B] : I checked this place because it is not far from my flat. Still I am thinking that my region have great potential about the young people and still I have a hope that if I can find a nice restourant or club, I will be so lucky. For this reason, I try some unknown places to find secret gems. Last Saturday I checked that place. Entrance 30. 000, beer or Vodka orange / apple juice or Cola. 20. 000. Environment, [B]waste of time. Do not think this place even exist. [/B]

Hi there guys,

Regarding Dozari and other odd scenes in Minsk, you have to understand something: they are totally obsessed with money and the image of money. I live in Vilnius, Lithuania. A good shopping basket at large supermarkets is some 65 litas (around 18 euro) as per the respective marketing departments. On the other hand, the same people who seem to be eating pasta and potatoes all month long drive cars worth 60-70000 euro when brand new. In general terms, they but them second hand from Germany or the US but they will hardly pay less than 20k euro. The more you move east, the less "European" and more "Russian" they are, Moscow and Kiev being the pinnacles of pretentiousness and flashing. Minsk is moving in that direction. Mind that with internet girls have access to "generous" guys from Turkey and Egypt who seem to be willing to pay for holidays and other entertaining. And we always have the Russians who are extremely prone to pour large amounts of cash on any young ass whom they like.

Regarding vkontakte and the Canadian chap around here, leaving aside the fact that his stories sound a bit like a national tourism agency undercover promotion gig or a flat rental agency viral campaign (the "studentska" thing starts sounding a bit creepy after a while) , I wonder how it is possible to contact girls so easily when actually the famous vkontakte is just a Russian speaking Facebook and girls tend to have in between 1000 and 20000 followers (yes, wankers everywhere.). And the site in question does not contain (like mamba. Ru for example) explicit reference to sponsorship or "sex for money" which makes the search an extremely burdensome task. But hey, I might be missing something.

All in all, not that easy to find girls in Minsk even if the city is 4 times bigger than Vilnius for example. Language issues and a lot of attitude among the ones who perceive themselves as good looking. Many of them come to Vilnius for weekends and the "Iphone and I am so hot" game seems to be a 24/7 issue. On the other hand, it is not that easy to find the €75 for 2-3 hours deals on the EU side of the border. More of the €120 for 2 hours (non pro) and I guess that makes Minsk an interesting adventure.

[QUOTE=Pokemon666; 1277598]Hi there guys,

Regarding Dozari and other odd scenes in Minsk, you have to understand something: they are totally obsessed with money and the image of money. I live in Vilnius, Lithuania. A good shopping basket at large supermarkets is some 65 litas (around 18 euro) as per the respective marketing departments. On the other hand, the same people who seem to be eating pasta and potatoes all month long drive cars worth 60-70000 euro when brand new. In general terms, they but them second hand from Germany or the US but they will hardly pay less than 20k euro. The more you move east, the less "European" and more "Russian" they are, Moscow and Kiev being the pinnacles of pretentiousness and flashing. Minsk is moving in that direction. Mind that with internet girls have access to "generous" guys from Turkey and Egypt who seem to be willing to pay for holidays and other entertaining. And we always have the Russians who are extremely prone to pour large amounts of cash on any young ass whom they like.

Regarding vkontakte and the Canadian chap around here, leaving aside the fact that his stories sound a bit like a national tourism agency undercover promotion gig or a flat rental agency viral campaign (the "studentska" thing starts sounding a bit creepy after a while) , I wonder how it is possible to contact girls so easily when actually the famous vkontakte is just a Russian speaking Facebook and girls tend to have in between 1000 and 20000 followers (yes, wankers everywhere.). And the site in question does not contain (like mamba. Ru for example) explicit reference to sponsorship or "sex for money" which makes the search an extremely burdensome task. But hey, I might be missing something.

All in all, not that easy to find girls in Minsk even if the city is 4 times bigger than Vilnius for example. Language issues and a lot of attitude among the ones who perceive themselves as good looking. Many of them come to Vilnius for weekends and the "Iphone and I am so hot" game seems to be a 24/7 issue. On the other hand, it is not that easy to find the €75 for 2-3 hours deals on the EU side of the border. More of the €120 for 2 hours (non pro) and I guess that makes Minsk an interesting adventure.[/QUOTE]OK, where do I begin? First of all, I used numerous sites to try to meet girls in Minsk and unexpectedly I found vkontakte to be the best one. I don't know why, it just turned out that way. With a little patience and numerous attempts I have met a few girls off the site looking for a sponsor and even a freebie which I am currently enjoying. Obviously there is no search option on vkontakte regarding sponsorship but that does not mean you can't find them. In fact, many girls on mamba post that they are NOT searching for a sponsor but in fact they are and only state they are not in case a friend or relative happens upon their profile. Nothing on the internet is as clear cut as you seem to think it is. Sure, I had many women ignore me or return my emails with less than flattering responses on vkontakte. However, in six weeks I added 50+ women onto my vkontakte and at least 8 were women I contacted on the site and after a few conversations asked if they were interested in a sponsor in which they were opened to it.

As for your statement that 'All in all it is not that easy to find girls in Minsk even in a city 4 times bigger than Vilnius' could not possibly be more false. In fact, it has to be the most false statement I have read on this forum in a long time. Have you actually been to Minsk? I have met over a dozen girls in Minsk over the past 20 days for a variety of reasons. It's not difficult to meet girls here at all. Sure, the majority don't speak a competent level of English but, as my post about Masha indicates; if you are inviting a young woman over to your flat for sex then a common language is not necessary. That's what Google translator is for.

However, there are many women who live in Minsk that do speak English and with a little work on the internet one can find them. If you can't meet them then it's time for you to look in the mirror. You might be the problem. I don't know who you are but women typically don't want to meet some fat, boorish man who dresses like crap in his pictures.

Now, as for your personal attack upon me. No, I don't work for an apartment rental agency. That's ludicrous. I am an educated and competent person and enjoy relating my stories on this site with some intelligence and originality. I have been reading and learning off of this site for one year and have always appreciated the stories people post (especially when they put a little effort into them) and told myself I should return the favor. I like to write and relate my experiences and if you don't like it then go read the plane crash that is the Kiev forum right now.

Lastly, you have made 4 posts to your credit on this site. You should try and actually add something to this forum before you come in blindly and start shooting your mouth off. Clearly you know nothing about me or Minsk. Stick to Vilnius, chap.

let me see. hmmm. well, i have to say that i have been to minsk. actually before moving to vilnius, i used to live in stockholm and for work reasons i had to travel to minsk at least once per month. once in vilnius. let me think, i travel to minsk once every 2 months. and with the new visa policy (they call it shopping weekend visa) , girls from by travel over the border to part in vilnius.

as i said, i am sure i am missing something here. i will have to be more patient online then. i admit that i get bored relatively easily on chatting / dating sites and that might be the problem.

again the national tourism agency speech. come meet our chicks! . the problem here is very simple. there is no proof of what you say, there are no pics of you anywhere, there are no pics of the girls anywhere. basically it is impossible to assess your "beauty", the level of girls you meet, etc. so let's not start arguing like small bitches here. you have your opinion, i have mine, you express yours and i express mine. that is all.

dressed like crap? that was cute. very fashionista / blogger type of comment. again, read the paragraph above. since we do not have real life reference, it is better to keep our respective mouths shut when it comes to physical appearance and style.

regarding amount of posts, again we are just expressing opinions since we cannot bring hard evidence onto this kind of forum. and as opinions, a post posted by someone who has posted just 1 has the same potential informative value as anything posted by a 10000 posts guy.

hmmm. perhaps mr. well dressed magnetic womaniser should help me stick to vilnius if he is not able to accept discordant opinions and a slight touch of criticism. i am open to suggestions. i remember i had a canadian nanny when i was a kid and i had the impression that was the tolerant laid back quasi european chunk of north america. but hey. who knows?

we are here to exchange information. i have done it on the vilnius forum and on this forum. information is subjective obviously and as such we should be intelligent enough as to accept discrepancy.

[quote=canadianboy; 1277665]ok, where do i begin? first of all, i used numerous sites to try to meet girls in minsk and unexpectedly i found vkontakte to be the best one. i don't know why, it just turned out that way. with a little patience and numerous attempts i have met a few girls off the site looking for a sponsor and even a freebie which i am currently enjoying. obviously there is no search option on vkontakte regarding sponsorship but that does not mean you can't find them. in fact, many girls on mamba post that they are not searching for a sponsor but in fact they are and only state they are not in case a friend or relative happens upon their profile. nothing on the internet is as clear cut as you seem to think it is. sure, i had many women ignore me or return my emails with less than flattering responses on vkontakte. however, in six weeks i added 50+ women onto my vkontakte and at least 8 were women i contacted on the site and after a few conversations asked if they were interested in a sponsor in which they were opened to it.

as for your statement that 'all in all it is not that easy to find girls in minsk even in a city 4 times bigger than vilnius' could not possibly be more false. in fact, it has to be the most false statement i have read on this forum in a long time. have you actually been to minsk? i have met over a dozen girls in minsk over the past 20 days for a variety of reasons. it's not difficult to meet girls here at all. sure, the majority don't speak a competent level of english but, as my post about masha indicates; if you are inviting a young woman over to your flat for sex then a common language is not necessary. that's what google translator is for.

however, there are many women who live in minsk that do speak english and with a little work on the internet one can find them. if you can't meet them then it's time for you to look in the mirror. you might be the problem. i don't know who you are but women typically don't want to meet some fat, boorish man who dresses like crap in his pictures.

now, as for your personal attack upon me. no, i don't work for an apartment rental agency. that's ludicrous. i am an educated and competent person and enjoy relating my stories on this site with some intelligence and originality. i have been reading and learning off of this site for one year and have always appreciated the stories people post (especially when they put a little effort into them) and told myself i should return the favor. i like to write and relate my experiences and if you don't like it then go read the plane crash that is the kiev forum right now.

lastly, you have made 4 posts to your credit on this site. you should try and actually add something to this forum before you come in blindly and start shooting your mouth off. clearly you know nothing about me or minsk. stick to vilnius, chap.[/quote]

Now that I am thinking. Do NOT misunderstand mind at all. I am not claiming that Vilnius is better in any way than Minsk. Not at all. And I am not advising anyone to come here. The only advantage I think of is that visa is not required for at least EU citizens.

[QUOTE=CanadianBoy; 1277665]OK, where do I begin? First of all, I used numerous sites to try to meet girls in Minsk and unexpectedly I found vkontakte to be the best one. I don't know why, it just turned out that way. With a little patience and numerous attempts I have met a few girls off the site looking for a sponsor and even a freebie which I am currently enjoying. Obviously there is no search option on vkontakte regarding sponsorship but that does not mean you can't find them. In fact, many girls on mamba post that they are NOT searching for a sponsor but in fact they are and only state they are not in case a friend or relative happens upon their profile. Nothing on the internet is as clear cut as you seem to think it is. Sure, I had many women ignore me or return my emails with less than flattering responses on vkontakte. However, in six weeks I added 50+ women onto my vkontakte and at least 8 were women I contacted on the site and after a few conversations asked if they were interested in a sponsor in which they were opened to it.

As for your statement that 'All in all it is not that easy to find girls in Minsk even in a city 4 times bigger than Vilnius' could not possibly be more false. In fact, it has to be the most false statement I have read on this forum in a long time. Have you actually been to Minsk? I have met over a dozen girls in Minsk over the past 20 days for a variety of reasons. It's not difficult to meet girls here at all. Sure, the majority don't speak a competent level of English but, as my post about Masha indicates; if you are inviting a young woman over to your flat for sex then a common language is not necessary. That's what Google translator is for.[/QUOTE]Hello CB! Why Minsk and not Kiev? Is it really worth the visa trouble and that cold isolated feeling of visiting a dictatorship?

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1277734]Hello CB! Why Minsk and not Kiev? Is it really worth the visa trouble and that cold isolated feeling of visiting a dictatorship?[/QUOTE]Hey Climax,

You know, I have spent time in both cities and while there is a lot of appeal in Kiev, I simply prefer Minsk. No doubt Minsk is a strange city and Belarus an unusual country for Europe but I like it here. You have to come with a pioneer spirit and a lot of patience. However, Minsk is safe, clean, cheap and the people are more trustworthy on a day-to-day basis than Ukrainians. In the city center, anyway. There is a lot less English spoken in Minsk compared to Kiev and there are more beautiful women in Kiev than Minsk but the plus side is that Belarus has not been corrupted / exposed by the west like Ukraine has. As for the visa, yes, its a pain in the behind and expensive (180 Euro for us North Americans) but its not so bad. As my Belarusian friends say to me 'Its 100 times easier for you to get a visa to Belarus then for us to get a visa to Canada' and they are right. I cannot deny there is a feeling of oppression here in Minsk and as someone from the west it is a very uncomfortable and peculiar feeling to be sure.

There is a lot more I could write on the subject of comparing Minsk to Kiev but in truth I really want Minsk and Belarus to remain as it is; an unpopular destination for foreigners.

[QUOTE=CanadianBoy;1277741]There is a lot more I could write on the subject of comparing Minsk to Kiev but in truth I really want Minsk and Belarus to remain as it is; an unpopular destination for foreigners.[/QUOTE]Thank you for paying back your knowledge debt to ISG, CB. It is now fully paid and no more commercials, I mean reports are needed. Blink.

I was once in Minsk and loved it, even though I did not meet any woman. But I agree totally that it is different in some strange indescribable way. Like a time capsule, but where just 50% of the world got stuck in history and the rest made it to iPhone age. As long as you do not enter politics you are quite safe though. Hope to find time to catch up with you CB on your Belorussian adventures.

B

Let's see if we can produce some usable info here. Mamba and Badoo are easy to use and things are pretty straightforward. Now let's explore vkontakte. Once you are done with your profile, you start searching. And that is when the hard work starts. Options available: country, city, age range, gender, relationship status (perhaps actively searching is the best option?). The other options are just filling.

Once you have your options ready, you tick the box "online now" and a list of young ladies pops up. Browsing, browsing. Hmmm. Most of the girls have only the option "add to friends" which most probably is a waste of time for you and just boosts their self confidence. Most girls have at least 1000 followers so you become a drop in an ocean. And then few girls have the option "send a message", that could help communicate. But then you have to find the ones who speak English or at least want to make the effort to use Google Translate.

Has anyone anything that could be helpful in this respect? Vkontakte as a useful key to eternal love.