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Owner of Frolics?
[QUOTE=IronyMonger;1913428]Thought I'd give a field report on two Mactan bars I haven't see much written about lately: Frolics and More. Went to them with my girl recently.
Frolics.
Foreigner bar, 6 dancers (5-7's on the looks scale) 2 bartenders, one mama working, and only 1 other customer besides me and my girl when we arrived around 10:30 pm. The girls say that it is often very slow like this.
[/QUOTE]Did you meet the owner of Frolics? I am wondering if Steve from Washington state is the owner. He had another bar near Love City, but I think he sold that one for this one.
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Frolic Owner?
Did you happen to catch the name of the owner? I wonder if Steve, from Washington state, owns it. He used to have a bar near Fuente Osmena, near Love city, but sold that one for another on Mactan Island. Anyone know?
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1823075]Same, right back atcha! Long live the lovely, skinny, photogenic, round-assed cebuana.[/QUOTE]Nice! That ass looks the same like the girl I am meeting some times when in Cebu, she got any tats?
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I've visited Cebu several times over the past 14 years, and I've never developed any affinity for the place. I've always felt it was a sort of mini Manila without the redeeming qualities of Greenbelt and BGC. I'm just wrapping up a brief visit here that's confirmed this perspective, and again I'm wondering what so many people appear to see in this place that I just don't see.
Last night, accompanied by a buddy who lives here (and who is leaving since he's decided he really doesn't like it much), I hit many of the bars on and around the Mango area: Planet X, Sisters, Eric the Red, Vikings, and a bunch on the other side of the street. There were very few customers in most of the bars. Though I realize that tastes in women differ widely, neither my friend nor I saw anyone that either of us would even consider. The bars were fairly shabby, lacking in much energy, and in general not much fun.
For the sake of nostalgia, we wound up the evening at Lone Star, which had at least as many available women as any of the other bars visited. Though the mood was a bit more relaxed, the options on offer were equally dis-spiriting, and we left after a single drink.
I'm told by my friend that our tour des boîtes was fairly typical of his last few visits, though granted a Tuesday evening may not have been the best time to have taken a random sample.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1942630]I hit many of the bars on and around the Mango area: Planet X, Sisters, Eric the Red, Vikings, and a bunch on the other side of the street. There were very few customers in most of the bars. Though I realize that tastes in women differ widely, neither my friend nor I saw anyone that either of us would even consider. The bars were fairly shabby, lacking in much energy, and in general not much fun.... told by my friend that our tour des botes was fairly typical of his last few visits, though granted a Tuesday evening may not have been the best time to have taken a random sample.[/QUOTE]I have been hitting Mango bars at least two nights per month for the last year (and every three months prior to that). Mainly with no expectations other than having a few drinks. About 10% of the time I stumble upon someone worth barfining. So I concur with your opinion. You would not come to Cebu for the P4 P bar scene. The bar with the best lookers is Planet X but this bar has a clear Korean bias. But to be fair to Cebu, the Cebu bar scene is far better than the Davao scene. From what I see from other FR's there is really no acceptable P4 P bar scene outside of AC and Manila. Maybe others will counter with Subic, Puerto Galera etc. It raises the question why cities like Cebu don't have better quality local girls working in the P4P scene (either bars or KTV's). When I talk to Burgos girls, the majority do not tell their family exactly what job they are doing. So I think working in the bar scene in your local town is probably too close to home for most girls. Just my thought.
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Mactan Bars
I stayed a few days in Lapu Lapu (I have built up quite a few chatmates I see from Lapu Lapu). On a Sunday night I ventured out to Club Mermaid. It is tricky to find. It is set back from the main road from the airport to the new bridge with poor signage on the main road so unless you look down the driveway you can't see it easily. Maybe Sunday is not a good guide. But there was probably 10 girls. They tended to only dance when there were enough customers (or the right customers as after a big group left they stopped dancing on the stage). I was offered a show up of 3 girls which was fairly sad. For research purposes I did buy one girl a drink. Forget the price sorry. But overall there was nothing to encourage me to come back but the girl assured me Friday / Saturday was much better. Next I tried VIP Club. This is a mini Arena KTV style with a large public stage area. VIP Club is on the road to Shang past the runway. So it is a fair hike from Lapu Lapu city. There was 18 girls (every hour they have full girl display on stage). There were 2 girls I would have chosen. Sat with one for 600 per hour. Didn't barfine but my memory was it was 5000. VIP club would probably be the highest quality lineup on Mactan.
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[QUOTE=MsAccount;1943517]I have been hitting Mango bars at least two nights per month for the last year (and every three months prior to that). Mainly with no expectations other than having a few drinks. About 10% of the time I stumble upon someone worth barfining. So I concur with your opinion. You would not come to Cebu for the P4 P bar scene. The bar with the best lookers is Planet X but this bar has a clear Korean bias. But to be fair to Cebu, the Cebu bar scene is far better than the Davao scene. From what I see from other FR's there is really no acceptable P4 P bar scene outside of AC and Manila. Maybe others will counter with Subic, Puerto Galera etc. It raises the question why cities like Cebu don't have better quality local girls working in the P4P scene (either bars or KTV's). When I talk to Burgos girls, the majority do not tell their family exactly what job they are doing. So I think working in the bar scene in your local town is probably too close to home for most girls. Just my thought.[/QUOTE]After more than a decade here, and several trips to Cebu, I question why anyone would choose to live there. The air quality is not good; it's running out of water; the traffic is approaching a Manila standard, and the bars suck. I fail to get the allure.
I'm settled in Davao with a long-term asawa and I never hit the bars, but I've heard from others confirming your point, that they're not very good. However, there are women all over the place here, easily approachable, and from what I can see, the quality of life in Davao beats Cebu hands down. Of course I know this town and I really don't know Cebu well, so perhaps my comparisons are invalid.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1943543]After more than a decade here, and several trips to Cebu, I question why anyone would choose to live there. I fail to get the allure.[/QUOTE]The Vikings bars have better-looking bars than most of the AC bars. However, there is a large barfine (p3 k I think), considering its Cebu; similar to Atlantis in AC.
The draw for me are two things that don't involve those bars:
1) The girls who hang around in the J Ave area, and.
2) Regular girls, either from dating sites, or referrals (from my regular girls or from you good BM's). This second category has been a serious windfall for me the last several years (as seen in the PG, page 28, post #8026 / backdoor adventure). The girl in the pic is from a dating site and has been with me for many years now. When I'm in Cebu, she stays with me every night (unless I tell her to take a night off). She goes home to her parents, siblings, and kids, and to her boyfriend, who lives with the family, when they are 'on'. Every morning she goes home to her kids and mom, and she, her mom, and one of her sisters goes to church 4-7 days per week in the mornings before lunch (crazy for church, her FB gets updated with pics of her at church or on church missions several times / week). She has brought me to the family home several times (when she is in an 'off' period with the boyfriend / father of her kids). She rarely speaks, seems constantly happy, and she's pretty. She has never once asked me what I do in the daytime when she's gone home. Yes that's my other playtime with my other regulars, who tend to bring more regulars (and thanks WR for your little hottie referral).
The city is filled with prettier girls than Manila (IMHO), who are slightly less sophisticated and more accepting of doing anything that I want when they are with me (sex, staying in, going out, they rarely suggest a bar or restaurant, happy with whatever I choose). And regular cebuanas are happy (giddy) with half the pesos of her Manila counterparts in the morning.
GE is right about traffic and such, but Cebu (for me) is a place I can go to (without telling anyone in advance) and be assured there will be a girl in my bed not only nightly, but also a different girl in the daytime, or no girl at all when I want a day off.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1944797]1) The girls who hang around in the J Ave area, and.
2) Regular girls, either from dating sites, or referrals (from my regular girls or from you good BM's). This second category has been a serious windfall for me the last several years
Yes that's my other playtime with my other regulars, who tend to bring more regulars (and thanks WR for your little hottie referral).
The city is filled with prettier girls than Manila (IMHO), who are slightly less sophisticated and more accepting of doing anything that I want when they are with me (sex, staying in, going out, they rarely suggest a bar or restaurant, happy with whatever I choose).
GE is right about traffic and such, but Cebu (for me) is a place I can go to (without telling anyone in advance) and be assured there will be a girl in my bed not only nightly, but also a different girl in the daytime, or no girl at all when I want a day off.[/QUOTE]We all have different flavors but I prefer Cebu over say Manila but I also like Davao but I just gravitate there for the reasons you say. But I also know Davao is equally nice and the traffic is way better. Traffic is a pain at certain times so 4-7 pm around Ayala Center and SM are unpleasant. It is not all day IMHO and I have taken 2 hrs to go from Makati to Ortigas so that has never happened to me in Cebu but I admit Davao is so much less stress and delay. The main road to Country Mall and Banilad can be slow for sure (is why Pip J drives a motorbike not a car when he is there), going to Tamaban at say 630 pm can take a while but again is not like Manila and is acceptable to me (while it could be not so great for others).
Referrals always best and I have never used a dating site in years or go to bars unless am going with friends. Am not a great person for bars / loud music and smoke. I have been to Alcohology and J Ave plus other clubs for short time. Plenty pickings if you have time etc but referrals best (is how I got to know that hottie WR and still do and she has friends also).
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Cebu Cebu
IMO the hottest lookers I've seen in the PI have been in (Cebu) Mango St bars. I have little experience in Cebu, only Ayala Mall and Mango St bars on 3 or 4 trips but I ended up taking Cebu out of my PI rotation a couple of years ago. I took it out because the Mango St bars (Vikings etc) are full of DDG dr**k s**ts that have total power over me. I mean some of these women were incredible looking but they were out to hustle and lie for drinks only.
They are also very Asian oriented so you are in their bar being ignored and some Ks walk in and the ladies go crazy over them. It's just unpleasant and disappointing. They'd make more money w / me (in most cases) but they are adverse to westerners in the extreme, so I don't go there anymore.
But you guys have me thinking about the place again. The Cebuanas are hotter than their Manila counterparts but the Manila ladies treat me w / respect and affection.
Never been to Davao. Is there a vibrant bar scene there WR? I only have time for BGs or SGs, I want to see and talk w / them before I make a purchase.
Cheers Guysg
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[QUOTE=Socker;1947949]IMO the hottest lookers I've seen in the PI have been in (Cebu) Mango St bars. I have little experience in Cebu, only Ayala Mall and Mango St bars on 3 or 4 trips but I ended up taking Cebu out of my PI rotation a couple of years ago. I took it out because the Mango St bars (Vikings etc) are full of DDG dr**k s**ts that have total power over me. I mean some of these women were incredible looking but they were out to hustle and lie for drinks only.
They are also very Asian oriented so you are in their bar being ignored and some Ks walk in and the ladies go crazy over them. It's just unpleasant and disappointing. They'd make more money w / me (in most cases) but they are adverse to westerners in the extreme, so I don't go there anymore.
But you guys have me thinking about the place again. The Cebuanas are hotter than their Manila counterparts but the Manila ladies treat me w / respect and affection.
Never been to Davao. Is there a vibrant bar scene there WR? I only have time for BGs or SGs, I want to see and talk w / them before I make a purchase.
Cheers Guysg[/QUOTE]Socker,
I prefer my regulars and office girls / students as you know. I have been to the bars in Mango and the clubs where the Cebuanas are very tasty at times. I prefer the latter to bars for many reasons that you know.
The bar scene in Davao. Not sure as not been there much and when I did I already had some one with me or was pre arranged. But there used to some good clubs (maybe GE can assist more).
But next time you arrive try the non BGs etc as they are great fun, won't lie (well not as much) and are great company in and out of bed LOL.
As for treating you with respect you know money does help in that also my friend LOL. AM always treated with respect because am so good looking and have the body of an Adonis LOL.
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Hahaha, handsome man
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1948141]Socker,
I prefer my regulars and office girls / students as you know. I have been to the bars in Mango and the clubs where the Cebuanas are very tasty at times. I prefer the latter to bars for many reasons that you know.
The bar scene in Davao. Not sure as not been there much and when I did I already had some one with me or was pre arranged. But there used to some good clubs (maybe GE can assist more).
But next time you arrive try the non BGs etc as they are great fun, won't lie (well not as much) and are great company in and out of bed LOL.
As for treating you with respect you know money does help in that also my friend LOL. AM always treated with respect because am so good looking and have the body of an Adonis LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know how you guys operate and that you're happy but I prefer point and click at the bars. I like the J Ave pick up scene too, sitting there and enjoying the craziness. I hope it's still going on.
The disrespect thing happens a lot in Cebu bars (by the stunners) but not in AC or Makati. The ladies in the latter 2 places are naturally fun to be around w / out over the top hustling. So if I lived there or spent more time there I would probably try your methods but I have a small window and I want the young honeys who are ready to go. I see them, talk to them and then decide.
I'm heading to El Salvador in 3 hours so a bit off center. El Salvador is not like the Philippines. All the doormen have shotguns where I'm going, no exaggeration. Drinking some wine now.
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Bar visits in Davao
[QUOTE=Socker;1947949]IMO the hottest lookers I've seen in the PI have been in (Cebu) Mango St bars. I have little experience in Cebu, only Ayala Mall and Mango St bars on 3 or 4 trips but I ended up taking Cebu out of my PI rotation a couple of years ago. I took it out because the Mango St bars (Vikings etc) are full of DDG dr**k s**ts that have total power over me. I mean some of these women were incredible looking but they were out to hustle and lie for drinks only.
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Never been to Davao. Is there a vibrant bar scene there WR? I only have time for BGs or SGs, I want to see and talk w / them before I make a purchase.
[/QUOTE]Maybe in past years Mango Bars had the hottest lookers but certainly that is not the case now. You cannot compare the Cebu P4 P scene with Burgos. But totally agree, the Korean / Japanese bias in the key good looker bars (Viking / PlanetX / Kampai) is demoralising. Mango visitors might not be aware of Kampai. It is about 100 metres down the side street where El Geckos is and you can't really see it from the main street if you look down the side street. The name gives away its bias but it does have some good looking girls. Planet X is still my favorite bar because it serves foreign beers, the only one I know that does in Cebu.
As for Davao compared to Cebu, there was some discussion in this thread between GoodEnough and I.
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[QUOTE=Socker;1948335]Yeah I know how you guys operate and that you're happy but I prefer point and click at the bars. I like the J Ave pick up scene too, sitting there and enjoying the craziness. I hope it's still going on.
The disrespect thing happens a lot in Cebu bars (by the stunners) but not in AC or Makati. The ladies in the latter 2 places are naturally fun to be around w / out over the top hustling. So if I lived there or spent more time there I would probably try your methods but I have a small window and I want the young honeys who are ready to go. I see them, talk to them and then decide.
I'm heading to El Salvador in 3 hours so a bit off center. El Salvador is not like the Philippines. All the doormen have shotguns where I'm going, no exaggeration. Drinking some wine now.[/QUOTE]Socket,
You miss the point I think the disrespect does not happen to WR as he look handsome man aka Mr Gwapo so why disrespect a Brad Pitt lookalike as they know they won't get the chance often in their lives LOL.
Now in your case the AC Manlal girls are not as choosy or are short sighted etc and cannot discern handsomeness from the ugliest LOL.
BTW next time in Manila PM me.
Enjoy El Salvador and make sure the guns are pointed the right way LOL.
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WR you kill me
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1948548]Socket,
You miss the point I think the disrespect does not happen to WR as he look handsome man aka Mr Gwapo so why disrespect a Brad Pitt lookalike as they know they won't get the chance often in their lives LOL.
Now in your case the AC Manlal girls are not as choosy or are short sighted etc and cannot discern handsomeness from the ugliest LOL.
BTW next time in Manila PM me.
Enjoy El Salvador and make sure the guns are pointed the right way LOL.[/QUOTE]You should come back home and start your comedic career, you always get me laughing. They get a lot of strange too! Save yourself some money haha! I'll be in touch next March.
LOL.