Lima

I'd like to write about two night clubs that they have opened in the north of Lima. One is Las Sirenitas and the other one is La Colmena. To arrive to theses places you have to take "the metropolitano" and get off on the last bus stop called "Naranjal", La Colmena why 50 m from this bus stop and Las Sirenitas is 10 minutes walking.

These places have same characteristics, there are like 40 rooms, every girl ask you 30 soles for the service and you have to finish in 15 minutes. I like it because is very cheap and you can try one girl and then wait 20 minutes and then another girl and so on. Most of the girls are from Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador and not many Peruvian girls which is very strange. Both brothels try to change their girls every month so you always see new faces. Well and depends on the kind of girl you like you can find ladies 18 - 19 (not many) 20 - 25 (most of them). They open at 4 pm and try to go with another person because the área is a Little bit difficult for a gringo style.

They are clean and security is in charge of Venezuelan guys, there are some girls that are in the bar that you can pick. Go and have fun, I like Young girls so I always go to these places.

Hi Folks,

Once again we find in a place where the purpose of the forum, our contributions to that purpose and how much do we pay for our hobby have come to be examined.

On one hand folks like JackJeriko, myself and others have helped ISG folks, who usually don't have time to look or just prefer a articular type of girl, to meet such girls in a short time.

On the other hand, we have folks like TomJackin and MrInternational, who apparently have not helped anyone meet o have recommended any contacts, who criticize these efforts and find pride in calling themselves "Mongers" and boasting about how much they save for a date and who recommend to settle for less as long as you can save a few dollars.

Incidentally, the definition of Monger:

Dictionary.

-monger. Denoting a dealer or trader in a specified commodity.

"fishmonger" a person who promotes a specified activity, situation, or feeling, especially one that is undesirable or discreditable.

Merriam-webster.

: a person who attempts to stir up or spread something that is usually petty or discreditable usually used in combination /.

As a result, Jack Jericho has felt insulted and will no longer help ISG folks meet any girls.

As for me, I am also considering doing the same. The suggestion that I can be benefiting for my help with $20 or so per date is insane, I don't need the money and much less that kind of money.

So lets examine the future. We will be left with TomJackin and Mr International fighting about who paid the least and without making any concrete contribution to the forum.

I am not motivated at all to pay money to read something that doesn't help me either to achieve and fulfill any fantasies nor be tagged as a provider who rips these girls off.

Additionally, those who have something significant and of much interest to the ISG community, will not share it fearing of being tilted as a fool for spending more money that what these folks think it is a reasonable amount.

The "I can do what I please with my money" doesn't appear to make any echo here.

So it would be interesting to hear from the ISD community on these matter before it goes dry.

Any comments?

Later.

Good point about the Argentine forum and what we can expect in this forum if we let it happen.

Perhaps just sharing our experiences, reserving how much we pay to private conversations will help.

Later.

[QUOTE=Namoi;2278223]Getting,

Railed for raising the price of pussy in Lima. That is why I don't like posting in depth reviews (unless asked to). There is always someone going to whine about how much you paid and pissing on your parade. I saw this several years ago on Argentina Private after getting scolded for "paying too much". So I just quit contributing to that forum, and if we are not careful, the same will happen here from fellow mongers. The strength of these forums is that we get to see many different ways to skin a cat (or pay for pussy). Next it will be about raising the price of steak, seafood, coffee, etc. So I say. Good on ya YuriB, you had a great experience and appreciate your in depth analysis![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jockey16;2280224]On the other hand, we have folks like [b]TomJackin and MrInternational, who apparently have not helped anyone meet o have recommended any contacts[/b], who criticize these efforts and find pride in calling themselves "Mongers" and boasting about how much they save for a date and who recommend to settle for less as long as you can save a few dollars.[/QUOTE]I guess we look at the forum in totally different ways. I see it as teaching a man to fish. That means telling him where the pond is and showing him what type of bait to use. That way he can go to the pond alone next time and catch his own damn fish.

That does not mean, "Hey buddy. Have I got the fish for you. Next time you need more fish come see ME." If that does not raise eyebrows then it should. I have a life to live. I am not trying take on the responsibility of having anyone go through me whenever they need fish.

So you are correct sir. I am NOT here to be anyone's supplier of women, but there is no shortage of guys, in various countries, that I have shown how to find their own women so there is no need to come to me when they want them.

[QUOTE=Jockey16;2280224]Any comments?[/QUOTE]Are you here for profit?

Gents,

In reply to Jockey's request for people to speak up for the forum, here are my thoughts. I haven't been to Peru recently and don't follow this forum closely. But I really enjoy checking out the great pics Jockey posts. The opportunity to be with regular Peruvian girls is amazing- these girls are gems.

The forum should be a welcoming place for anyone with a decent contribution. There will be differences of opinion, but if we keep it respectful then it all works. One guy does things his way and tells us about it, another guy does it another way and tells us about it.

Let's not make any decent contributor feel unwelcome.

I really appreciate Jockey's posts and am glad to read about this part of the market. Those girls are gorgeous, and I've been with real Peruvian girls so I know those girls are representative of what a guy can find. Peru is a special country for those who love sweet women.

Thank you Jockey, Yuri be and anyone else who helps us see different parts of what's available. Please people, let's not be hard on contributors or they will stop contributing! It's happened many times on the forum.

Added to the Map:

[B]Las Sirenitas Club,[/B] #5051 Av. Gerardo Unger at Av. Naranjal, LOS Olivos. __ Chicas. Prices: 30/ S 15 min. Tel: +51 922 949 259. Hours: 9 am to 2 am. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/SirenitasLosOlivos/[/URL].

[B]La Colmena Vip Independencia Lima,[/B] #190 Taladros, Independencia, half a block from the station el Naranjal, Independencia, Peru. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: 2 pm to 4 am. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Local-Business/La-Colmena-Vip-Independencia-Lima-177475349858603/[/URL].

[QUOTE=AntonioLion;2280192]I'd like to write about two night clubs that they have opened in the north of Lima. One is Las Sirenitas and the other one is La Colmena. To arrive to theses places you have to take "the metropolitano" and get off on the last bus stop called "Naranjal", La Colmena why 50 m from this bus stop and Las Sirenitas is 10 minutes walking.

These places have same characteristics, there are like 40 rooms, every girl ask you 30 soles for the service and you have to finish in 15 minutes. I like it because is very cheap and you can try one girl and then wait 20 minutes and then another girl and so on. Most of the girls are from Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador and not many Peruvian girls which is very strange. Both brothels try to change their girls every month so you always see new faces. Well and depends on the kind of girl you like you can find ladies 18 - 19 (not many) 20 - 25 (most of them). They open at 4 pm and try to go with another person because the rea is a Little bit difficult for a gringo style.

They are clean and security is in charge of Venezuelan guys, there are some girls that are in the bar that you can pick. Go and have fun, I like Young girls so I always go to these places.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Uphigh;2280394]Please people, let's not be hard on contributors or they will stop contributing! It's happened many times on the forum.[/QUOTE]Who will stop contributing? The majority of these posters have common themes. They have posts that number in the single digits. They praise the person that hooked them up with a girl. They paid over $100. That is more of an advertisement and less of a contribution.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2280290]Are you here for profit?[/QUOTE]McDonald's is taking all these pictures of food, putting all these billboards up, making all these commericals to put on TV, getting all these testamonials from people you have never heard of before, because they are really concerned about millions of total strangers having THEIR food to eat. And of course there is nothing in it for them except the thought of you being satisfied with a full belly.

For the record I have nothing against it. I just want it to be called out for what it is.

[QUOTE=Jockey16;2280224]Hi Folks,

Once again we find in a place where the purpose of the forum, our contributions to that purpose and how much do we pay for our hobby have come to be examined.

On one hand folks like JackJeriko, myself and others have helped ISG folks, who usually don't have time to look or just prefer a articular type of girl, to meet such girls in a short time.

On the other hand, we have folks like TomJackin and MrInternational, who apparently have not helped anyone meet o have recommended any contacts, who criticize these efforts and find pride in calling themselves "Mongers" and boasting about how much they save for a date and who recommend to settle for less as long as you can save a few dollars.

Incidentally, the definition of Monger:

Dictionary.

-monger. Denoting a dealer or trader in a specified commodity.

"fishmonger" a person who promotes a specified activity, situation, or feeling, especially one that is undesirable or discreditable.

Merriam-webster.

: a person who attempts to stir up or spread something that is usually petty or discreditable usually used in combination /.

As a result, Jack Jericho has felt insulted and will no longer help ISG folks meet any girls.

As for me, I am also considering doing the same. The suggestion that I can be benefiting for my help with $20 or so per date is insane, I don't need the money and much less that kind of money.

So lets examine the future. We will be left with TomJackin and Mr International fighting about who paid the least and without making any concrete contribution to the forum.

I am not motivated at all to pay money to read something that doesn't help me either to achieve and fulfill any fantasies nor be tagged as a provider who rips these girls off.

Additionally, those who have something significant and of much interest to the ISG community, will not share it fearing of being tilted as a fool for spending more money that what these folks think it is a reasonable amount.

The "I can do what I please with my money" doesn't appear to make any echo here.

So it would be interesting to hear from the ISD community on these matter before it goes dry.

Any comments?

Later.[/QUOTE]My friend you were extremely (and still are) a valuable asset to me every time I go to Peru. You made such a huge difference to me during my last trip and I am extremely grateful to you.

Remain positive and enjoy yourself. Have a very happy and healthy 2019 !

Basically three categories of Mongers:

1) Lot's of time, limited on cash.

2) Plenty of cash, not much time.

3) Lot's of time AND Lot's of cash.

Unfortunately, for me, I don't fit into the 3rd category. But I do have the cash, just not much time. Therefore, that is my current "M. O. " Don't get me wrong, I do my research and usually am able to find what I need on my own doing no matter the country or language barriers. Lima, on the the other hand, has been a tough nut to crack for me, so when some of the nice folks here on the ISG forum offered to help, I certainly took them up on it. Just because I chose this route, does not cast me in any different light than anyone else who reads or contributes to this forum, nor does the number of posts I have under my name (I just passed that important "single digit".

When I want a good meal. I go find the best steak in town. When I need a snack to keep me going. I go to McDonald's (not really, cause that place really suck, but you get the idea). Nothing wrong with either option, they both fill the void!

Once again, this forum is what we make of it. It can flourish or die. It's up to why'all.

Using your analogy, this is what I see:

You try to teach someone to fish but in the event that he wants salmon, you try to having him settle for Tilapia and if he doesn't want to go fishing, or he doesn't have the time to go fishing or has the money and the appetite for Salmon and decides to go to the market to get it, you criticize him for paying too much?

We definitely ". We look at the forum in totally different ways."

Regardless our differences, I believe we must respect people's right to spend their money the way they want and your desire to share your valuable experience.

So be happy and let people be happy my friend.

Life is short, enjoy it!

Later.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2280286]I guess we look at the forum in totally different ways. I see it as teaching a man to fish. That means telling him where the pond is and showing him what type of bait to use. That way he can go to the pond alone next time and catch his own damn fish.

That does not mean, "Hey buddy. Have I got the fish for you. Next time you need more fish come see ME." If that does not raise eyebrows then it should. I have a life to live. I am not trying take on the responsibility of having anyone go through me whenever they need fish.

So you are correct sir. I am NOT here to be anyone's supplier of women, but there is no shortage of guys, in various countries, that I have shown how to find their own women so there is no need to come to me when they want them.[/QUOTE]

Great to hear from you my friend.

Lima and a few friends you made, miss you.

Return soon.

I may be going to Tijuana soon.

Later.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2280516]My friend you were extremely (and still are) a valuable asset to me every time I go to Peru. You made such a huge difference to me during my last trip and I am extremely grateful to you.

Remain positive and enjoy yourself. Have a very happy and healthy 2019 ![/QUOTE]

Are these night clubs for dancing or more like strip clubs / brothel? Would a non-Spanish speaker be able to navigate here?

I'm in Lima next week if anyone wants to explore!

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2280438]Added to the Map:

[B]Las Sirenitas Club,[/B] #5051 Av. Gerardo Unger at Av. Naranjal, LOS Olivos. __ Chicas. Prices: 30/ S 15 min. Tel: +51 922 949 259. Hours: 9 am to 2 am. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/SirenitasLosOlivos/[/URL].

[B]La Colmena Vip Independencia Lima,[/B] #190 Taladros, Independencia, half a block from the station el Naranjal, Independencia, Peru. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: 2 pm to 4 am. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Local-Business/La-Colmena-Vip-Independencia-Lima-177475349858603/[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OnTheSide;2280542]Are these night clubs for dancing or more like strip clubs / brothel? Would a non-Spanish speaker be able to navigate here?

I'm in Lima next week if anyone wants to explore![/QUOTE]Let's see, none is a regular NC for dancing and so. Both are halfway between a brothel and a strip club, places where you can meet working girls (all girls there are working), drink alone, drink with your friends or drink with the girls, there is an occasional striptease, and there are rooms where you can go with the girls to have sex.

[B][I]Las Sirenitas[/I][/B] is definitely more a brothel than a strip club. A little upscale from El Trocadero, a little downscale from Las Cucardas, but smaller by far than any of those two.

[B][I]La Colmena VIP[/I][/B] is more a strip club than a brothel, the striptease performances a little more frequent, pretty much like the VIP Saloon at the Anaconda in the same area.

No English spoken at all in any of those places so some very basic Spanish is needed. Al least you must be able to ask ¿Cuanto cobras? (How much do you charge? ¿Cuanto tiempo? (How much time? To count from 10 to 40 in Spanish (to understand how much are you being asked for and how much time that involves, how many pops, etc.), and the basic questions you want to ask the girl. CBJ / BBBJ, DFK, etc. If you want to ask.

It should be easier at [B][I]Las Sirenitas[/I][/B], every girl is standing there at her cubicle's door and everybody knows what are you there for, just seal the deal and proceed. Also the place is safer, the surroundings are safer and there is a Metropolitano station not four blocks away.

It may be trickier at [B][I]La Colmena VIP[/I][/B] where you are expected to talk with the girl at the bar and negotiate the deal. Also I wouldn't recommend a gringo-looking gringo to go alone to La Colmena VIP. I wouldn't go alone there myself. The club itself is not dangerous but the neighborhood is, getting there and getting back might be a little dangerous, even for a Peruvian, if looking like someone from San Isidro or La Molina.

J. J.