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[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3003122]Any recommendations for those top tier gogo clubs? I'm visiting Pattaya for the first time this month. I'll definitely return the favor after my experience.[/QUOTE]
I usually just go to Palace but XS and Pin Up are also good. Panda used to be very good but I haven't been into the newly remodeled Panda.
All these clubs are crazy expensive for Thailand but that's where the young hotties are to be found.
[QUOTE=Allover;3002918]When Japanese and Korean guys are present, the rest of us have problems competing with them too. People that really know Pattaya understand this.[/QUOTE]Just a detail: instead of "Japanese" read "Chinese / Taiwanese".
[QUOTE=PayForIt;3003066]Has anybody been to this FKK style club on 3rd Road or even stayed at its hotel, eaten in the restaurant.
Facilities look amazing. Karaoke rooms, indoor pool, bedrooms are very smart. Might just have to give this a try on my next trip.[/QUOTE]There's been barely a mention of the place since it first opened six months ago so I doubt that it is doing well. By now I would have expected a few reviews and I don't see that. There are a few comments are about the location and opening times but that's it.
My 8 day visit to Pattaya ended Sunday. There were things which I enjoyed and things which I didn't.
Climate options are either hot and humid or raining, hot and humid. Daily heat index often exceeds 120°F, rain does make it comfortable except for the humidity. I'd recommend bringing an umbrella and hoping for rain.
There are plenty of food options, and I found them all to be enjoyable. So many expats bring their food with them. You can get pad thai right next door to a place serving bangers and mash. Prices are excellent. If street food and night markets are your thing there are plenty of options.
Getting around is easy and cheap, and it's a very walkable city. Baht buses are everywhere and Grab is quick and cheap, wait times of 2-3 minutes.
English is spoken by many. Better communication leads to better outcomes. Hotels can be found for crazy cheap prices. Drinks are also cheap, in the bars and in the stores.
My sessions, on average, were excellent. It's been since I broke up with my last girlfriend since I've had girls kiss like that. Most girls offered MSOG. One girl discovered there was no condom in the room and immediately offered BB, only asking that I pull out. All gave BBBJ without hesitation. One took the CIM and only complained because she wanted to ride my dick. She eventually thanked me after I got her off with some hard finger banging combined with spanking.
The constant calls of "massage ka" were a bit annoying. Walking past 5 spas, each with 5 girls out front all saying the same thing gets old. The Soi 6 girls were too desperate and grabby. That whole vibe turned me off. However, many guys are going to love that. Walking Street, Soi 6, LK Metro, Soi 13/1 and Soi Boomerang all had a more relaxed atmosphere.
Safety and security didn't appear to be an issue. At no time did I feel any undue risk. However, keep your money with you, or locked up, if you leave the massage room to shower. There are some who will go through your pockets.
Overall I'm satisfied with my visit, and may return to give it another shot.
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There are plenty of food options, and I found them all to be enjoyable. So many expats bring their food with them. You can get pad thai right next door to a place serving bangers and mash. Prices are excellent. If street food and night markets are your thing there are plenty of options.
English is spoken by many. Better communication leads to better outcomes. Hotels can be found for crazy cheap prices. Drinks are also cheap, in the bars and in the stores.
Most girls offered MSOG. One girl discovered there was no condom in the room and immediately offered BB, only asking that I pull out. All gave BBBJ without hesitation. One took the CIM and only complained because she wanted to ride my dick. She eventually thanked me after I got her off with some hard finger banging combined with spanking.
The Soi 6 girls were too desperate and grabby. That whole vibe turned me off. However, many guys are going to love that. Walking Street, Soi 6, LK Metro, Soi 13/1 and Soi Boomerang all had a more relaxed atmosphere.
[/QUOTE]In a city with millions of people I would not say there are lots of options. The biggest problem I have with the food is the quality of the meat, sauce, and rice is all much lower than it was before. Many restaurants were disgusting or super small portions. My other post lists the good ones but just leave Pattaya. A few places you can eat for $2 but most will cost you over $10. Around $50 if you want a steak.
ENGLISH is NOT spoken by many except old women over 35.
Worst English proficiency I have experienced in a long time!
MINIMUM price for a livable hotel is $20 a night which is NOT cheap in SE Asia. MOST hotels are above $60 a night.
His women are old, try anything he suggested with a girl under 25 and you will probably get limited kissing, a short blowjob, complaining about positions and rushing. The older women have been going without a condom for so long they know condoms are total Bullsh*t. Unfortunately the younger generation have been completely brainwashed and are mostly psycho about using a condom or if you are lucky they want double which means means about $80 for short time no condom at the cheapest. Of course there are exceptions, especially if she let's you eat her pussy and you do a good job, but the normal situation is like the one I have described which has been experienced by me and my 7 mates I am here with in Pattaya. From Jomtien to North Pattaya.
SOI 6 Girls are desperate to get you to buy drinks or take you up to a room above the bar for a 30 minute rushed session with limited service for $80-100 with drinks and room. Pay Attention to the actual number of girls leaving the bar and who they are leaving with. It isn't going to be you.
Bottom line there are no standards in Thailand except in places like Bo Win. Everything you get you have to negotiate for and it kills the whole vibe for me.
Tomorrow is one of my friend's birthday and after that we are headed back to Bangkok. The off to a different country that is really good but I will never share where it is because there are too many evil people reading this forum who want to destroy every good place just like they have destroyed the Philippines and Thailand!
BOYCOTT PATTAYA for 2 or 3 years and it might become good again. No matter what they say 60% of their economy relies on Foriegners so we have the power if we are smart and just stop coming here!
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Both of these ladies who were good companions in bed have messaged me on Line asking me 'When I Back' - the crazy thing is Nim, the better looking one to the left. Red lipstick. Works in a bar by Prime Burger (Tree Town area) - and the other one works in Soi 6 bar. How did they get the ability to compare notes about me? The two never met around me. I am thinking it is slow over there in Pattaya, or it's just the time for them to Text all their old line contacts from a month or 2 months prior. But I got a text from both of them today in a time-span of less than 20 mins!?! Wow.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;3003510]Both of these ladies who were good companions in bed have messaged me on Line asking me 'When I Back' - How did they get the ability to compare notes about me? The two never met around me. I am thinking it is slow over there in Pattaya, or it's just the time for them to Text all their old line contacts from a month or 2 months prior. But I got a text from both of them today in a time-span of less than 20 mins!?! Wow.[/QUOTE]Don't assume they compared notes about you because they asked when you are coming back. Even chicks who are not hookers ask me that all the time. It is just a normal thing that people ask.
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Safety and security didn't appear to be an issue. At no time did I feel any undue risk. However, keep your money with you, or locked up, if you leave the massage room to shower. There are some who will go through your pockets.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.
Regarding someone going through your pockets while you are in the shower, do you have reason to believe this happened to you or is that just a concern? When shower is separate room from massage room, I put my valuables in my pants and then carry my pants to the shower room with me.
I went out the other night with some friends and we all agreed that town is kinda quiet now. We went to the popular Heaven above even though I don't like to visit because it's always crowded. Well it was indeed quiet this time but I looked around and there weren't many lookers amongst the ladies. I'm not into paying the rates that are being asked for in gogos or even soi 6 for the most part so I went to a GC for a short time still just a 1000 baht plus 300 for the room.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3003515]Thanks for the report.
Regarding someone going through your pockets while you are in the shower, do you have reason to believe this happened to you or is that just a concern? When shower is separate room from massage room, I put my valuables in my pants and then carry my pants to the shower room with me.[/QUOTE]I put it in an earlier report. My travel wallet is difficult to get money out of, unless you're taking all the money. During a massage I put my watch in the pocket with my travel wallet. After the massage my watch was laying on the shelf next to my shorts. No money was missing. With a regular wallet or money clip something probably would have disappeared.
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Getting around is easy and cheap, and it's a very walkable city. Baht buses are everywhere and Grab is quick and cheap, wait times of 2-3 minutes.
[/QUOTE]Been coming to Thailand for 15+ years, I have no desire to use a baht bus. It's either walking, Grab app (for the motorbikes), or motorbike taxis. Vacation time is limited and I'm not sitting in traffic with a bunch of smelly farangs in the back of a truck. Pattaya roads have massive traffic and motorbikes are the only way to avoid it. IMO.
Mongers on vacation have some irrational fear of motorbike taxis and motorbike grab app, yet expats have no problem riding them daily.
[QUOTE=MasterMonger;3003079] the prices in Thailand are out of control and it is only going to get worse.
Boycott Thailand. Maybe in 10 years they will learn their lesson, kinda like China right now!
[/QUOTE]You already know that no "ISG boycott of Pattaya" would change prices as these are coming from East Asians (and even Indians). The prices are not the problem. The lack of talent and lack of good service is the problem.
My current 2 week trip is coming to an end and I'm not sure what to make of it. I've had freelancers, bar girls, girls from discos, girls from Indian clubs, girls from Pinup / Palace / Shark but nothing sticks out as memorable for me.
For me, a boycott is not the answer. The solution is to simply become more selective with who you choose.
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Mongers on vacation have some irrational fear of motorbike taxis and motorbike grab app, yet expats have no problem riding them daily.
...[/QUOTE]The accident statistics regarding motorbikes in Thailand are horrendous. Of course, we all have our notion of what we accept as risk. If I were to start riding a motorbike in Thailand I'd rate it as dangerous for my survival as starting a meth habit at my elderly age.
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SOI 6 Girls are desperate to get you to buy drinks or take you up to a room above the bar for a 30 minute rushed session with limited service for $80-100 with drinks and room. Pay Attention to the actual number of girls leaving the bar and who they are leaving with. It isn't going to be you.
Bottom line there are no standards in Thailand ...
Tomorrow is one of my friend's birthday and after that we are headed back to Bangkok. The off to a different country that is really good but I will never share where it is because there are too many evil people reading this forum who want to destroy every good place just like they have destroyed the Philippines and Thailand!
...[/QUOTE]Ah-ah-ah, I'm with you there, except like the other poster I doubt we (English-speaking mongers) have much control these days over the way mongering venues go. We are a shrinking democraphic.
Let's meet once in that other country we both know about that's really good.
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Getting around is easy and cheap, and it's a very walkable city. Baht buses are everywhere and Grab is quick and cheap, wait times of 2-3 minutes.
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The constant calls of "massage ka" were a bit annoying. Walking past 5 spas, each with 5 girls out front all saying the same thing gets old...
[/QUOTE]A very walkable city? No sidewalks? No pedestrian crossings except as death traps?
I also get irritated by the "massaaah-massaaah" callers. I now ignore them as they're not human beings. They're just a special kind of birds that go "massaaah-massaah".
[QUOTE=XXL;3004116]The accident statistics regarding motorbikes in Thailand are horrendous. Of course, we all have our notion of what we accept as risk. If I were to start riding a motorbike in Thailand I'd rate it as dangerous for my survival as starting a meth habit at my elderly age.
Ah-ah-ah, I'm with you there, except like the other poster I doubt we (English-speaking mongers) have much control these days over the way mongering venues go. We are a shrinking democraphic.
Let's meet once in that other country we both know about that's really good.
A very walkable city? No sidewalks? No pedestrian crossings except as death traps?
I also get irritated by the "massaaah-massaaah" callers. I now ignore them as they're not human beings. They're just a special kind of birds that go "massaaah-massaah".[/QUOTE]I found plenty of sidewalks. Of course you have to watch your step. As for crossing the streets, that's a problem almost everywhere. However, even though I was somewhat hobbled by a mostly healed broken foot, I managed to get my 63 year old body across the street several times per day.
This is my 3rd time in Pattaya, but the first time that I went to any Walking Street Go-Go's. My first impression is that it's exactly like Nana Plaza so I knew the rules immediately.
First I tried Palace. I bought a water (140) and looked but nothing seemed to my liking.
Then I went to XS. I bought a water (140) and there were many attractive girls on the stage. Too many to choose from honestly, but I chose my favorite one. I had to wait about 10 minutes for her group to get off the stage, then she sat with me along with a mandatory lady drink (250). I didn't waste any time asking her if she wanted to go to a ST hotel. I've been told on here that the price is 2-4 k, so I just guessed and offered 3 k. She told me it was 5 k and that the price of nearby room was 500. I thought that was pretty steep, but I still wanted to do it (if I had the option of doing this with that attractive of a girl in my home country, I'd do it every day so why not). Then she told me there's also a 1500 fee to the house for bar fine. I considered canceling, but I still said okay. THEN she told me I also have to buy 2 more lady drinks (500) to meet her daily quota before she can leave. At this point, I got fed up and canceled it and paid my tab (140+250=390 plus tip) and left.
It would have cost 140+250+5,000+1,500.
+250+250+500 = 7890. Call it 8000 after tip.
That's $240 which is the price of Asian massage in the USA. I'll probably go back and do it tomorrow cause why the hell not, I'm not broke. It just caught me off guard.
I also went strolling through Soi 6 around 3 pm and there was a few hotties there, but I wasn't in the mood. Soi 6 probably best value for a ST.
On my way driving to Walking Street, I noticed a lot of girls standing around on the beach side of Beach Road. Some of them pretty cute too. Despite this being my 3rd time here, it's the first time I saw that area at night.
I also went to Maggie May's, but there was nothing worth doing. One of the girls was rubbing my cock through my pants trying to convince me to pay 1300 (1000 + 300 for curtain) for a BJ, but I just didn't want to waste a nut that night.
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That's $240 which is the price of Asian massage in the USA. I'll probably go back and do it tomorrow cause why the hell not, I'm not broke. [/QUOTE]Don't do it, chances are high that it's going to be a dreadful experience.