Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;3007593]Looks like you have some more reading and research to do.[/QUOTE]Looks like some people have mistaken a forum on which we discuss such information with an anecdote exchange to avoid talking about anything relevant.

then as usual someone gets snarky with someone who tries to bring things back on topic.

So to restate the question:

-Any new areas worth exploring vs the usual Soi Phukhao and Tree Town (I hated TT last time) for bars?

-Given it's low season, what kind of prices should I expect to pay? General prices of ST / LT, LDs and barfines would be good to know if there's any change.

-Which nightclubs are the best currently? Ibar / Insomnia, Lucifer or The Republic?

Any other recommendations of how best to go on the hunt would be welcome. This place can change in a small amount of time.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;3007754]-Any new areas worth exploring vs the usual Soi Phukhao and Tree Town (I hated TT last time) for bars?[/QUOTE]Soy Honey, Patranamk, Jomtien, Soi Boomerang, Soi Bang Koch, The Darkside.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;3007754]-Given it's low season, what kind of prices should I expect to pay? General prices of ST / LT, LDs and barfines would be good to know if there's any change.[/QUOTE]Depends upon the venue where you are procuring your prostitute.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;3007754]-Which nightclubs are the best currently? Ibar / Insomnia, Lucifer or The Republic?[/QUOTE]Depends upon the type of music that you like.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;3007754]Any other recommendations of how best to go on the hunt would be welcome. This place can change in a small amount of time.[/QUOTE]Depends upon what you like. Get boots on the ground and explore. Your questions are too wide ranging for specific answers to be given. Plus they are all covered if you actually read the Thailand Threads.

[U]Options[/U]

Top Tier Agogos on Walking Street.

Second Tier Agogos.

Gentlemans Clubs.

Bear Bars.

Naughty Massage places.

Venues where Blow Jobs are priced as a separate service.

[B]Beach Road[/B]

Soapie Massage Places.

Nuru massage places.

[U]Thai Friendly[/U]

Detailed information are in the threads if you actually read them.

[B]No way around putting work in![/B]

[QUOTE=Lanthano;3007754]Looks like some people have mistaken a forum on which we discuss such information with an anecdote exchange to avoid talking about anything relevant.

then as usual someone gets snarky with someone who tries to bring things back on topic.

So to restate the question:

-Any new areas worth exploring vs the usual Soi Phukhao and Tree Town (I hated TT last time) for bars?

-Given it's low season, what kind of prices should I expect to pay? General prices of ST / LT, LDs and barfines would be good to know if there's any change.

-Which nightclubs are the best currently? Ibar / Insomnia, Lucifer or The Republic?

Any other recommendations of how best to go on the hunt would be welcome. This place can change in a small amount of time.[/QUOTE]If only there were a section about Pattaya with reports that answered your questions.

There is a place called "Jomtien" that may be interesting.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3007730]What is it Bar Hotel California? You talk as if the chicks are relegated to the bar on a life sentence. They can't come out, but people can come in?

You can meet people anywhere they roam. It does not have to be in the place they work. It can be in the disco. It can be at the food cart. It can be at 7 11. It can be crossing the street at the same time.

Just because we do not go to the same bars does not mean we can not meet the same people. The bar is not the end all be all for meeting someone who works there. One thing about me is that I do not have to wait to be inside of a bar to chat up a chick that I like. That is exactly why I do not give a fuck about bars and would not give a shit if they all closed down tomorrow. Everything was just great for me in covid when all the bars were closed. I met chicks just the same.[/QUOTE]It is not as easy as you make it out to be. Even the girls in the bars do not want to go with non-asians if they are cute or young. I saw a guy from Germany offer a girl 30,000 and she still refused him. Thailand is currently broken plain and simple. During the scamdemic they were literally starving so would go with you for a chance at food and some air-conditioning. Now the have an organized initiative in South East Asia to only offer the Caucasion tourists the bottom of the barrel. It is disturbing having disgusting old, fat women cat call you like they have a shot! A girl at massage place with a hairlip quoted me 5,000 baht for full service in house! Bangkok is offering up deformed, pregnant, deaf, and mentally handicapped women to foreigners and most now are condom crazy! Only the blowjob bars like Lolitas and Kasalong for 800 baht are places I can relax and go to knowing I will probably get good service but the quality of women is maybe one doable girl in the day and the rest hideous hags.

If you trust me, and you should after you have seen my abilities, and after I showed you the place in Bogota for all the women you want in 120 minutes for just $10. Avoid Thailand and spread the word. The country I am in now is significantly better and short time in a hotel is $15. PM me if you want details.

Trying to MFGA. Make the Forum Great Again!

[QUOTE=Lanthano;3007592]

-Which nightclubs are the best currently? Ibar / Insomnia, Lucifer or The Republic?
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Best is fairly relative concept, depends what you like and looking for. Anyway my observations.

- Lucifer I wonder how it makes the numbers work as it usually is very quiet. Weekends a bit busier but still barely worth a visit in my experience.

- What comes to Ibar, I think it has become what Red Car used to be pre-covid, but I esp 7-10 years ago. More mature providers and actually still some same faces, mixed with some younger. Insomnia shifted towards that direction also though maybe a bit less than downstairs, due to music and environment I guess.

- Younger / 'hotter' seem to congregate more to myst and republic, tend to be overcrowded esp myst.

-808 skewed towards thicker ones, guess due to taste of average male patrons there

Looks like Thai Friendly is getting more strict. My head line was "In Pattaya now, looking for ST". This morning I went to Bangkok, and when I arrived there I changed the head line to "In Bangkok now, looking for freelancer". About 5 minutes later I got attached message. Obviously I was not offering paid services, but apparently the 'ST' in my head line was the reason I got this message.

Another 5 minutes later I found out that my new head line for Bangkok had been removed. So I changed it to "In Bangkok now, looking for student".

Then I got a temporary ban, but only for a very short time (maybe 10 or 15 minutes or so). When the ban was over, I asked the moderator if I'm not even allowed to look for students. So far he hasn't answered me yet.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;3007782]What did you find out so far from doing research and reading?

*Here's a side note* ISG is not the only place to obtain information. As a matter of fact, there is more information to obtain outside of the ISG website than here and if this website is your only source of information then you're doing it all wrong.[/QUOTE]This is the second time I have come here, and I find myself interrupting someone's irrelevant multi-page discussion about baht buses, to bring the topic back to what people actually care about, and then to get the usual RTFF. You know what?

Aside from the fact that these are relevant questions for this forum, maybe if the threads weren't clogged with peripheral topics, it might be easier to access this info without wading through nonsense.

Apparently this reaction is so entrenched on here by some, that it's become acceptable? I dunno.

For my own fair city, I provide information if I know. (That's the word 'guide' in internationalsexguide.).

I've been to our fair sin city at least 4 times, and it's good to get an update whether much has changed. I didn't ask for a guide for every single venue.

Thank you to everyone that answered.

And the prices, are people still getting long time for 2000 baht around?

But honestly, from what I can see on TF, I may be overthinking this. Pattaya still has the same kernal. Can't wait for next week.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;3007867]
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And the prices, are people still getting long time for 2000 baht around?

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[/QUOTE]I don't think 2000 baht is anywhere realistic these days for long time. In fact 2000 has become the normal short time asking price.

I myself pay (ok, overpay) my regular girl 4000 for short time. We have had a barebacking arrangement for a couple of years now and we never gave each other any STD, which is also what I pay a premium for. But it goes to show girls' level of expectation at present. Before covid I was paying this girl 1000 at Soi 6 + 400 for the room. During covid I paid her 1500 to meet at my condo.

P.S. You should clear some space in your mailbox if you want PMs to reach you.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;3007867]
But honestly, from what I can see on TF, I may be overthinking this. Pattaya still has the same kernal. Can't wait for next week.[/QUOTE]Yes, you may be overthinking this. In the last two weeks I have found several lovely young ladies in TF. The usual price was 1500 baht for a ST with BBBJ and BBFSCIP.

[QUOTE=MasterMonger;3007818]It is not as easy as you make it out to be. Even the girls in the bars do not want to go with non-asians if they are cute or young. I saw a guy from Germany offer a girl 30,000 and she still refused him.......[/QUOTE]Even if he was a smelly Shrek I'd find that hard to believe. 30,000 baht?!

[QUOTE=Lanthano;3007867]
Aside from the fact that these are relevant questions for this forum, maybe if the threads weren't clogged with peripheral topics, it might be easier to access this info without wading through nonsense.

[/QUOTE]Yes, this is a real problem. My solution was to put the worst few offenders on my ignore list. With their posts invisible, it is much easier to find the interesting information that was posted by others. I took that step when I realized that these nonsense posters provide near zero valuable information buried within their prolonged posts.

[QUOTE=XXL;3007872]I don't think 2000 baht is anywhere realistic these days for long time. In fact 2000 has become the normal short time asking price.
[/QUOTE]I've lived here over 10 years and yet to pay more than 2000 for LT (I mostly do LT) and would not call myself sex starved, nor do I go with overweight ones. Certainly asking prices have gone up and average transaction prices too, and sure not everyone go for 2 k and of course there are a lot of 'hot' ones (who may well be starfishes in room) who would not look back if you say 2 k LT.

Sure being resident and having had time to find matching regulars helps keeping prices fair, but if you are normal looking fellow I doubt you need to spend a single night alone if you willing to part with your 2 k.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;3007887]I've lived here over 10 years and yet to pay more than 2000 for LT (I mostly do LT) and would not call myself sex starved, nor do I go with overweight ones. Certainly asking prices have gone up and average transaction prices too, and sure not everyone go for 2 k and of course there are a lot of 'hot' ones (who may well be starfishes in room) who would not look back if you say 2 k LT.

Sure being resident and having had time to find matching regulars helps keeping prices fair, but if you are normal looking fellow I doubt you need to spend a single night alone if you willing to part with your 2 k.[/QUOTE]The problem with guys that talking about and accepting the higher rates is because that's what they are settling for. I never ask a girl "How much? That's a rookie mistake that even some so called veterans make. I always approach a girl with my rate first and negotiate from there. If you ask the girl "How much?" then of course she is going to shoot high. It's a no brainer and some guys don't get that. If you make your offer first your chances are better. If you don't like a counteroffer then move on. A lot of guys don't hunt. They are obviously too lazy for that. They don't want to put in the work or effort and it doesn't take a long time either. In Pattaya I have never paid over 1. 5 K for ST /2. 5 K LT the highest and the lowest was 700 for ST.

Use mltiple venue and avenues to achieve what you want and it will be fruitful. Guys that just sit up in one bar all night will be limited to only what is offered there and then come on this website and tell everyone that the going to rate in Pattaya is what they found at that one bar which is a total misperception and giving misleading information about Pattaya as a whole. In other words they are spreading "FAKE NEWS"!

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3007665]Suddenly I cannot reply to messages or send new messages anymore in TF. Instead I get the question if I want to verify my photos.
Anyone else who has this problem too?[/QUOTE]I am premium member and have no such problem. My photos have never been verified. Moments ago I sent 2 TF messages, both were successful. One used the mobile app and the other used the full website (laptop). One possible twist is that I'm currently located in USA and not using VPN.

[QUOTE=XXL;3007872]I don't think 2000 baht is anywhere realistic these days for long time. In fact 2000 has become the normal short time asking price.

I myself pay (ok, overpay) my regular girl 4000 for short time. We have had a barebacking arrangement for a couple of years now and we never gave each other any STD, which is also what I pay a premium for. But it goes to show girls' level of expectation at present. Before covid I was paying this girl 1000 at Soi 6 + 400 for the room. During covid I paid her 1500 to meet at my condo.

P.S. You should clear some space in your mailbox if you want PMs to reach you.[/QUOTE]Only the normal price for guys that can't negotiate and think they are cool if they overpay or look better. I think its pure idiocy. Its guys like you that drive up prices.

And for no reason at all. I have never seen any girl wanting 4 k for short time on all of those thaigroups and pages I have looked at.

It should not be a problem to get ST from 1200-1500 with anything that looks good on TF. I have barebacked long time for 2 k baht.