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[QUOTE=Nvslim]Got 9 out of 10 right. Took the test just to see if the cuties in #8 and #10 were girls. Both were. Other wise I could be in real trouble one of theses days.Slim[/QUOTE]I took the test. I scored 7 out of 10 correct, but I am not worried. I spotted all the Katoey. I messed up falsely identifying a couple ladies as men. False positive. It is better to error on the side of caution.
[QUOTE=Nvslim]Got 9 out of 10 right.
Slim[/QUOTE]
Shhhh! Don't tell them! ;-)
[QUOTE=Wendella]Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.
Try this:
[url=http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php ]Take the test[/url][/QUOTE]
Happily, 10 out of 10.
[quote=jack rabbit]1. went to superbabys go-go which is famous for sp that cater to japanese and korean clients (which i am not). no language skills of sp (in english), but agreed to barfine with short time later (she told me 1.5) so we went to lucifer for a quick drink.
2. went back hotel, cleaned up and changed. determined not to let this ruin my night, i went out again to lucifer. on my way, saw superhottie walking with another sp. she came over and offered me short time.[/quote]i'm like the other mongers. i'm not getting it. why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht? that is like going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, finding a girl there, and taking her over to devil's den. just doesn't make sense. then the second time you were heading back to lucifer and got sidetracked. why didn't you just cut out the middle man and bar fines and just get a girl from lucifer for a flat 1000 baht since you were frequenting the place anyway?
[QUOTE=Aussie Stu]Following on with the perils of the Beach Road and Walking Street theme.
1. Walking along the Beach Road at around 3. 00 in the morning. A group of Girls and Lady Boys approached. They joked, and at the same time, appeared to frisk me. As it was the end of the evening and, I had little money left, I ignored this and went back to my hotel. Next morning, looking in the mirror, I realized my gold chain had gone.
2. Around 1. 00 in the morning walking in the Walking Street. A Lady Boy persuaded me to go with her down a small side street and into a vacant construction site with the promise of a BJ. Inside the construction site I was forced to surrender the entire contents of my wallet.[/QUOTE]This guy is pulling our dicks. Beach Road/Walking Street is not Soi 6. Meaning: On Beach Road and Walking Street the SWs are passive. They don't just approach you like Aussie Stu is saying. They sit back and wait for you to come up to them. Now Soi 6 is a bit different. The bar girls are agressive. They will jump up, run circles around you, hug you, walk down the street with you and try to get you to come fuck their ass.
And what are you doing walking around Pattaya with a wallet anyway? (I won't even mention the gold chain.) Now, I've never robbed anyone, but if I was to do it I would not waste time on making them give me the contents of their wallet. I would just take the whole damn thing and worry about the contents later.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I'm like the other mongers. I'm not getting it. Why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to Lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht?[/QUOTE]
Some guys are unable to score at places like Lucifer. Don't ask me why, I don't know, age and looks I suppose or they just don't feel so much at ease in 'normal' clubs...
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Then the second time you were heading back to Lucifer and got sidetracked. Why didn't you just cut out the middle man and bar fines and just get a girl from Lucifer since you were frequenting the place anyway?[/QUOTE]
I think Mr Rabbit was talking about his hotel's security guard, not the ones at Lucifer.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]This guy is pulling our dicks...[/QUOTE]
Maybe, but...
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Beach Road/Walking Street is not Soi 6. Meaning: On Beach Road and Walking Street the SWs are passive. They don't just approach you like Aussie Stu is saying.[/QUOTE]
... this part of his story is plausible. He spoke about ladyboys, and although it's true that usually the real girls are most of the time passive on Beach Road and Walking Street, I've often noticed on Beach Road a group of ladyboys acting just like Aussie Stu wrote in his report.
[quote=mr enternational]i'm like the other mongers. i'm not getting it. why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht? that is like going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, finding a girl there, and taking her over to devil's den. just doesn't make sense. then the second time you were heading back to lucifer and got sidetracked. why didn't you just cut out the middle man and bar fines and just get a girl from lucifer for a flat 1000 baht since you were frequenting the place anyway?[/quote]
simple. it was before 12pm (around 10pm), lucifer was dead and other go-gos had no talent (e.g. club boesche, toyz, xo, etc.)
wanted a quick pop before picking up the freelancers in lucifer, especially with the lighter skin thais that usually work at superbaby.
i took her to lucifer to make her more comfortable with me, since i could tell she doesn't go with many farangs (limited english). it also gave me a chance to scope out what was coming in, so i could come back after when i was finished with her. which was a good thing that i did, because it set up my final night with the best gfe ever in the los from a sp who was from laos (who had seen me dancing in lucifer and liked my style :)
for the record, i have spoken with various expats who all informed me that superbabys never included the short time fee with the bar fine previously (as for as long as i can remember too). i know of very few go-go's that actually have this policy. always pay the girl directly for services. hence, why i made the previous posts to warn others.
moreover, i have noticed both in bangkok and pattaya that it is more challenging to determine the katooeys (which is why i usually only go for petite women). however, even in the previous account, the sp passed all the tests (yes including small hands and feet, and less tall). btw, i scored perfect 10 out of 10 on the test. i always err in the side of caution, which probably explains why i was so baffled that i got played.
time to put this issue to rest, i regret that i didn't play things differently (like speaking to the mamasan on the phone while in my hotel room, and offer to pay the sp directly), however, she made it pretty clear in the room, "no farangs boom boom". i just hate wasting money and time (only had 2 days to play). i do not want to be labelled as those "nice guys" who barfine the girl to "hang out" with no boom boom. met quite a few of those . . .
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]
For the record, I have spoken with various expats who all informed me that Superbabys never included the Short time Fee with the Bar fine previously (as for as long as I can remember too). I know of very few Go-go's that actually have this policy[/QUOTE]
WTF?!?!? Superbaby is wellknown for this policy and it's been going on for years. I once wanted to barfine a girl there, that was in 2007, and when they informed me that I had to pay bar + fee on the spot, I informed them that they would have to do without my business.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]And what are you doing walking around Pattaya with a wallet anyway? (I won't even mention the gold chain.) Now, I've never robbed anyone, but if I was to do it I would not waste time on making them give me the contents of their wallet. I would just take the whole damn thing and worry about the contents later.[/QUOTE]
In the last year, I haven't had any problems walking around with a wallet in SE Asia. As long as you're street smart and you're not going into dark alley's with a ladyboy maybe you'll be okay. I don't carry a credit card and I carry a copy of my passport. And I only carry enough cash that I will spend when I'm out.
Chains draw attention for sure. I used to have a $5 stainless steel chain with something attached. Girls would be interested in it all the time, touching it, asking what it is, etc. At first I thought it was an ice breaker, but later I got rid of it.
I wear a watch sometimes because it prevents me from taking out my phone so often.
[quote=mr enternational]i'm like the other mongers. i'm not getting it. why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht? that is like going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, finding a girl there, and taking her over to devil's den. just doesn't make sense. [/quote]
i don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.[/QUOTE]
Maybe some guys enjoy a wider variety of activities than you do. That should be pretty easy to understand, that not everybody likes exactly what you like.
Referring to Mr Enternational's comment, seems like cost is his top priority. For some here I'm pretty sure it's not.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.[/QUOTE]
Not all of the higher end SP will agree for boom boom (unless perhaps you want to pay substantial bank). Especially locals on holiday, wanting to make some extra bank, they can choose who they want to service (even go-go's often give the SP a choice). Sometimes you gotta put in a little time, buy a couple drinks with her friends, etc.
All women judge a man by who they are with. If any woman (SP) or otherwise sees you with a superhottie, she will think you got money, looks, and perhaps charm/humour. Of course, you may not be their target THAT DAY, but you could be the following day. And trust me, they remember. I guarantee my Laosian hottie, would not have agreed to meet up, if I didn't play this game. I saw guys chase her down numerous times, and she rejected them flat out. In the end, she never asked me for a dime (obviously has a few sponsors), however of course I gave her some "shopping money", which was actually less than if I had paid for services rendered.
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]All women judge a man by who they are with. If any woman (SP) or otherwise sees you with a superhottie, she will think you got money, looks, and perhaps charm/humour. Of course, you may not be their target THAT DAY, but you could be the following day. And trust me, they remember. I guarantee my Laosian hottie, would not have agreed to meet up, if I didn't play this game. I saw guys chase her down numerous times, and she rejected them flat out. In the end, she never asked me for a dime (obviously has a few sponsors), however of course I gave her some "shopping money", which was actually less than if I had paid for services rendered.[/QUOTE]
Is it possible that you have low self-esteem? It's true in Asia, girls are more into prestige and money than in Europe. But, to buy a prostitute to get seen with her, in order to impress other prostitutes is a funny thought.
[QUOTE=Diceman]I don't understand that either, but I think a lot of guys want to be seen with there girls ha ha, they are prostitutes, I been saying it long enough, to many bottom feeders, hand clutchers, people will never learn. Get them to the room and do the business, simple as.[/QUOTE]
I guess everybody is different and has different objectives.
I must admit that I feel a bit sorry for some of those fellas when I see them treating the same prostitute, that I had before him, as if she is someone special. Only if he knew the things that I and many others did with her before.